Hello everybody, welcome to church of the chair tonight We are going to be watching Mandy on to if you would like to watch along at home The link is down there in the description It's on to be to be as a free service Pause go back. It's lower that. Hey, Tane. How you doing? I got the law and order Themes long stuck in my head for whatever reason. Hey, Haley Glad you can make it. I'm glad you enjoyed it, Tane. I got six people in here I gotta do something about it. I can't have this focusing over and over and over. Hey, hey, lazy. How are you doing? Hey, Derek. Oh I might have to turn a light on just so this thing stops Trying to focus Yeah, I Brought pizza. Yeah, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to turn a light on I'm having an absolutely terrible weekend E so I need cheering up. Well This is the place for that Unless you're not gonna watch along then you might be kind of at a loss for what's going on But kind of downhill from there. I was trying not to say anything Derek I was trying to be nice You've seen the movie. All right. Oh Hello, Boggle. How are you doing? Hope you are doing swell swell indeed. I'm just checking some things before we go live Yes, I accept your privacy policies. Leave me alone finished shoo jumper Finish supper early for once awesome. Hey, they give me a little of the magic hat power for tomorrow Whoo so jumper We love us so some so jumper it is so nice and cool out here it was not like that earlier It's okay Derek I And I'm sure tain understands that you know He perfectly all right to love What you love, but I was I was just trying to be like, you know Is I didn't want to spoil a spoil here, you know, what was up so? You've never seen this before oh you y'all are in for a treat Wait, wait till we get to the I can't even talk about it for a couple more minutes But I have no idea why I don't like Joe Hill. I don't know either. I love certain books of his The last three have been disappointing for me Disappointing for a lot of people and I think even disappointing for Joe because Joe pretty much fucked off of novels and stuff like that and is now doing comics like damn near full-time so He might be bad. There might be another book. I don't know Also, I took a gummy about an hour ago. So it's going to be very enjoyable It's gonna be something else about the halfway point of this movie right when everything starts like really kicking off we're gonna have a We don't have a time I love the majority of his work. That's cool. I love horns. I Love heart-shaped box love 20th century ghosts love NOS 42 Nospratu every single time I say NOS 42 Which is the title of the book? Someone's always like it's pronounced Nospratu. Yeah Duh, but Haley's seen it too because Haley commented on one comment that brought that up and she was like You don't think he knows that Yeah, he can write he's just as good as his father in that regard But there's something about his characters man. Um, I don't know they're lacking something the dead has you know He did you know it was pronounced Nospratu. Damn Jake. Thanks for telling me man.  Hell, yeah, if it bleeds up next Get it solvents get it get it and I would just if you don't feel like reading the whole book Just read the just read the if it bleeds novella You don't have to read the other three for for that one to make so would you stop auto-focusing? Thank you. Thank you Yeah, Nick Cage is in this movie Nick Cage and it's the best Nick Cage the absolute pinnacle of Nick Cage It is it is best Nick Cage Nick Cage at his absolute just Mine Mindless nutjob It's amazing Nick raw Yeah, I mean I'm the same way fireman if he had written his own book instead of Taking borrowing everything from dad. I mean even down to the way it ends with the hand of God I mean that the entire thing is just Whatever and trust me that's not as big of a spoiler as you might think Removes magic hat lazy. I did my best We're getting started in t-minus six minutes Y'all excited I'm excited I am gonna be a joking mess I'm telling y'all now Bruh, that's how full screen works in this player That sucks all the donkey balls. I got my VPN ready to watch this. I'm in the UK. Oh, okay I was like, why are you having to? Joking mess. Yeah, we're gonna do a countdown to start together There are apps and plugins that uh that do this Where we can like all watch at the same time But they don't work with my streaming stuff, so That's supposed to be cheese cheese titties So good so so good. I Bet you them cheese titties of delicious delicious My mustache bothering me. Why'd y'all let me pick a two-hour movie? This is gonna be who? Two hours in this chair of just watching a movie. I mean I got it turned on lazy if Viking does pop his head in I've been scaring a lot of people lately Two people so far. I thought I started a fire Yeah, so solvents was one of them someone else thought it was on fire, too I might do that. I don't know depends on how far away, you know with the With the ads and all I don't I don't want us to be too far away from each other But I might I might schedule something right at the hour mark The director of Mandy did one of the episodes for gonna get a lot of toros cabinet curiosity on Netflix And the episode is an hour long, but it's similar to Mandy. I do not remember that episode like at all See how you're feeling If you need to walk about a break is fine with me yet Yeah, we'll probably end up doing an intermission like lazy said We'll probably do an hour and then we'll take a break and we'll come back to it three See minus three minutes I hope I don't get sleepy on you guys because sometimes my gummies be gummy and and I get But if I fall asleep y'all just be like just scream E in the chat. I'm sure I'm sure I'll hear it I'm positive. Oh the viewing I remember that one. I don't I don't know that feels maybe maybe I'm thinking of some some other episode Oh, yeah, I love death and robots is amazing I'm hoping for more seasons, but Fincher's kind of been dragging his feet on that If you fall asleep, I shall dawn the hatch of awakening We will summon you awake. Yes, just hold pause and tail slaps and I'll wake up. I'll wake up I'm kidding.  That's not what I meant. What I meant was Make sure we don't start early for the people who are gonna be here right at five o'clock Yeah Someone edited together um All the people who like jack smith fanny williams, uh, alvin Bragg, whatever his name is cut together all of those and then did a like a law and order opening And had a bunch of cuts a bunch of scenes from like trump walking to courthouses and things Then it said special trump unit and it showed all of them like they were the the cast. It was it was amazing If I can remember i'll post it over on uh on discord Ifa is watching Ballad of buster scrugs man.  I love that movie. Oh, it's five o'clock on the dot My headphones up Let's go Ah, hang on I'm I am all Tied up. Let's go. All right, so We are starting in three two one Let's go Je films xyz films That's fun to say. It's a daily thing.   We're at a minute 31 It's nothing but intros right now Both folks I was reading got very depressing. So this is better rock on When I die give me pie. It's a waste of pie, but I will rest in peace Rest in pieces like a pie. All right, Derek King wall in me I know cosmatos Linus Roche, I did not mean to do that. I fucked something up hang on opening title song starless by King really King crimson I had never heard of King crimson King crimson before Johan Johanson Before Metallica Sounds like of the week in this song Yeah rest in pie pieces of 33.33 It's 3.14 Plus a bunch of other numbers Maxine Cotrey my older brother had king crimson albums Timber Man this movie starts like it's been to be serious or something It's like we call third Third avenue and 14th street avenue pie. That's cool I got crimson king books. Yeah, me too Me too, brother Aaron Stewart on No idea what this is about.  How you doing? Yeah, turn ronald reagan off calcium cannons. Oh my god. I've never heard him called that. That's funny I've never heard that one I really love the music Musical score in this movie. Oh, yeah the music in this system. I think it's the best part The shadow melt I miss when movies did this like have title cards Like chapter titles or whatever Yeah, it is dreamy And then you mix it in with like the metal and all that stuff. It's amazing It does go Ooh glittery font For those of you just joining us we'll probably take a break about an hour in so I can get up and walk around Random nicolas cage is scary I love how realistic of a couple they are like they're both like Down to earth They're both like you like normal people normal looking people That's me anytime shell does anything like she can get out of bed and I'll just be like wow.  Yeah, I know, uh, I like I like that Quentin still does it And I still need to watch sissu sissu whatever it's called I think it's siso sissu whatever Every time you all tell me how it's pronounced I forget so My day was pretty good sissu. That was one of the ones I said so you got to give me credit I won't forget my next time too, dude. So I wouldn't even bother. Look how white my hand is like I don't get near sun Planted discussion. I'm definitely going with venus because that's where the women's are I suggest I decided to turn on captions. I suggest you do the same thing. He eats planet These two are too cute, man You're rolling with that Well, at least you don't have to put a ring on it. It's already hitched Oh, that is gorgeous. It looked like two interstellar kitties. I just know when it does see it It eats planet caravans This movie is gorgeous man for being what it is Absolutely gorgeous. This is the kind of stuff I wanted when I was a kid like super high budget low budget movies, you know Movies that well not as a kid. This is what I want more of we had a lot when I was a kid But I want more of this These two are awesome. I'm sure it'd be a shame if something terrible happened.  Holloway, but I do like it Yeah, big budget b-movie.  You y'all ever seen dragon slayer? If not, we should watch it the thing exactly or any of john carpenter's movies really all dream or uh The dark crystal labyrinths.  He's dying. I can take his place Then it pops up. He's like no get away aw Poor manimal I saw he Shove this floor Yeah, you're right.   You're right. Barely any middle ground to save for a a 24 And that's another one because hereditary man, that would have been like a million dollar movie From like full moon entertainment. There's a face only a mother could love. Hey, um Haley's going all in You really should You really should move It's very up there for me derrick Nothing beats the passion of the christ though.  It's just a horrifying movie Jesus to get this asked for Three hour explanation don't nobody need three hours to explain hereditary like the cult is trying to bring their god back in Creepy fitting suit. That's that's all there is except for editor. I'm a pillowcase in the crowbar The greatest christianess in hemfilm Ugh You just turned captions on it's really hard to hear them in this one No pillow in a crowbar. No, it's something something's about to get beat to death So glad I put in captions This sets you up for like some kind of like elevated horror movie It's like it's going to be really deep and metaphysical and so much theme and then just They talk like incoherent vice You have no clue where this is going even when even when the credits the end credits begin rolling You'll still be confused. So just go with it You talking about inherent vice? I don't know incoherent vice This one dude. So yeah, this one. Okay, been a while. Yeah, I'll go run top She rubs off on everybody The cast of armadillo That is why he is our hero why? That's somebody independent book You know ominous music change Oh, this is much much worse as far as like confusion than the matrix this one just I want to sit and draw in that room.  Everything in that room. Oh, yeah Because you instantly knew the real title and had the book at hand. I thought that's what you're talking about, but I wasn't sure You'll be all right boggle. This is a movie you experience. This is not a movie you like watch or Digest it's a movie you experience Yeah, it's a book by thomas pension one of my favorite uh postmodern authors it's not it's not going to it I have no problem with uh We might have focusing problems but uh This would be the first plot point, right? What the reading what's in the book? I don't know. I don't I don't really pay attention to this movie So maybe there's a deep movie. I don't know intro with the new characters remember this is all like chapter one or part one though Because we haven't gotten a new title card In my defense the motherfuckers in that movie were inherently incoherent.  I've never actually seen that all the way through I will glass this is damn so It's your steps. I mean It's starting and it's definitely starting It's a creeping on in What was she nominated for jake black mirror and bergman children of the new dawn Definitely sounds like a metal band like late 70s early 80s like black metal. I got a commercial It's instacart never used instacart today in my life This must be a trip to watch hide We're about to find out She's a possessor and she was nominated for a film called to leslie You got one too. Oh big girl.  What you gonna do? That's right. Run through your run through the sprinkler with all your jiggling Be proud of your size That is a great shot of just a band sitting there. That's the um The old lady with the white hair. That's the lady from texas chainsaw master She was the main character the one who survives box discounts I have possessor save but Oh, yeah, this actor did play bruce wing's dad and uh that man begins You're right.  That is pink white people should How do you have a chin that sticks out?  Haley stop asking that question and just go with it I promise I promise you have much better time Just just be like, okay. I accept this moving on.   Yeah, cold piece is great. I think cold chicken fried chicken That's about the absolute pinnacle of my caucasity though. Like I don't I like cold food meat Y'all remember that kid It smell like beef Jeremiah just blew one right in his pants or the other guy swan whatever Jeremiah is the cult leader, right? Yeah, because that's brother swan Now we finna meet sister lucy Colts are well.  Let me get back to it cute dress The cult the cult dress the midsummer dress really hailey And you could rock it you could pull it off, but yeah, I'm sure you get indoctrinated in like three seconds The ominous music this whole time Oh, if you don't get out my store Oh creepy Jesus You got a chainsaw behind you should have revved that bad boy up These fades are killing me man. They they're like 30 seconds long Jalfin to do I mean, I know Jalfin to do but I'm gonna try something real quick That ain't too bad Is it am I not like your guys are watching me, but that seems fine Patrick hockstetter about the um Yeah, I know what you're talking about the one who played him in uh The it chapter one Careful what you play on that that should have sent you back in time. I know my homie linked in it Oh, I get you. Okay. All right.  Yeah, okay. I see it now hailey. I see it now poor patrick I mean he was a perv but poor patrick The whispering whistling lights the rest for taking I've seen that documentary Oh that family boy, this is pretty much where it starts getting like a little bit silly If nothing else that family knew how to have a good time. Yeah You cut that right He's like, can you not with the wind? And then that that dude, um with the bleach blonde curly hair reminds me of the kid from bad santa Y'all remember that movie?  I just I love every every aspect of that movie. Take me on gyms He's won some sandwiches What is sticking out of his heart?   Oh, that was that was classic. That was amazing This is pretty much where the movie just kind of fucks off and it's just like we're gonna do what we want Excuse me sir.   I'm like Is Dwayne there right now? Like is it is it a possibility to occur soon? Like why would you just randomly say I'm never blowing the rock?   Jesus Christ Really lazy. That's what you've been doing. They start looking at you.  Yeah He could he could have been the he could have could have gone either way Oh Slap the taste out your mouth. At least you don't have to worry about where that rope's been I understand you crazy I supported it, but I thought it was an odd time for a dare for a race I damn it There Well done Well said chief in the get stoned That is uh, probably lsd folks If you don't know now, you know, you know, it's a hallucinogenic. Can y'all hear the thunder? Oh No, no, no, no, no, Jesus.  She looks like that's who she looks like she looks like shelly duval Especially as wendy in uh the shiny She looks just like shelly duval. Are we a hundred percent sure this isn't a rob zombie movie? All right fog machine.  Look like bleach demon Mane is melanated Here we go. My favorite part of the movie is coming up.  So if you guys lose me, I'm sorry I will try to get back as soon as possible. Just pause it and I'll be back. Wow those shoulder pads Best kitty and best man. Yep Robin e-foot Hailey is looking Come to chance mother nature. Jesus christ Here it comes So we I'm at 44 15 basically About 45 minutes by the time you get there This dude's voice is getting to me like my gum.  Like he's doing a hard obi-wan Kenobi Cosplay right here I butter everything lazy I butter noodles. I butter meat I butter everything Yeah Hell of it. Goddamn she creepy as hell The gray-haired lady right here lady, whatever We all hear this mess Like it is straight up storming here. He's about to get some self-hate Sorry guys. I can't do anything about it. I do apologize.  You on that smoke It says thunder in the vicinity I don't know why I showed y'all and that's all he graced you with we've got to find that out I can't stop looking at those shoulders Y'all didn't have shit to say when obi-wan Kenobi did it first though This is Jedi appropriation I need to move to Scotland solvents This is so creepy the way their faces merge Yeah, gave me LSD His hot beefy light You had me with cold summers.  Let's go is a yeah. It's 180 today. It was 110 here earlier We had an extreme heat riser Good job, Rob.  Come on. Let's go. Let's go Let's go He's about to get much less scary.   She only stares up at him The laughter is absolutely savage What's your opinion there with that little thing? Does it grow any? What's my little thing right there between you and me? This is what people think Jesus look like Who's why Jesus is this boy? This is a trip when you hi You got about 10 more minutes. I'm gonna take a break Then we'll do our intermission And Intermissionary stuff.  That was so well done. Tell me what to do.  That's my favorite part Second favorite part because my first favorite part is when she laughs at second favorite parts of the second Of course, it's a pale night No, hailey.  You have missed nothing This cult kidnaps mandy And he just keeps getting wilder and wilder after that. That's that's the whole plot The entire plot mandy gets kidnapped by a cult and nick cage has to save the entire plot Nothing else is going on. You might but if you can find some deeper meaning, please do call me Got him like jesus, bro He ain't gonna nick cage ain't no reason with nobody.  Oh, yeah color color out of space is great Our wave goodbye Yeah, I captioned the match strike That's not how fire works And now it is a nicks cage revenge movie Strike splish This movie split right down the middle like the first hour is like pretty grounded pretty grounded And then this the second one is yeah Is that tom mcdonald anybody know the rapper tom mcdonald?  I was looking at chat when it popped up, but I knew something was on the screen I didn't know what it said. All right. I'm gonna pause it Once we're done with this scene. Look at this cage can act So I don't know what happens with some of these other movies he does white won't let me oh YouTube won't let me I don't even see I don't see one that needs to be Approved someone else might have done it. I don't know. I don't see hollow ways Comment at all. All right. I'm pausing here Right right here at 101 oh one Anyways, I'm gonna get up and move around for the next five ten minutes.  All right, um, I'll be back You're on one one oh one oh two. All right I'll be back five ten minutes. Let me mute this In case I walk in I don't know why I said that anyways Okie dokie. Here we go Now it is sunny outside Why is that? Okay, there we go Now it's sunny outside and it feels like you're walking through warm soup All right. Y'all ready to get back to this? Dude, that's crick Derek.  Hang on That's copyrighted music Oh well Anyways But it's funny. All right ready three two one click that play button Fair use is designated by the copyright holder. So you never know what's what's free to use Unless you submit and ask them It's fine. I would I'm probably not going to make any money off this anyways I just don't want to strike. You know what I mean? Well, you're gonna do much more than that All right, Derek sounds good Depending on how long it takes to install I can probably even play tonight Brutal is a good word for you. Uh, we're at one oh five One hour five minutes. I don't know. It didn't come through You're welcome boggle.  Sorry This movie has it all this part is hilarious to me and it probably shouldn't be Thanks, Barry. I'm glad you're enjoying them Been a lot of fun so far The socks are what you're worried about Hey, isn't the wallpaper Isn't it The same thing that was on the cult girls dress His socks look like my bed The socks have been through a lot. Yeah, just like the person wearing them I'd wear it too.   He's one of my favorite parts of the original predator Yeah, halloween It is like a steven king one Derrick's having a whole moment guys Yeah, halloween. That's what i'm talking about. He was great in it And then when it broke on his face, that was amazing Been a long time since i've seen that one derrick. What's crawling on his shoulder Y'all see that bug?  Yes Maybe not though. I don't know like they had to summon him earlier.  Oh lord straight to the porn for real Is that michael mires Why'd you start hollering before you even got to him?  Yeah, then he had to steal their coke too.  Yeah him hungry, dude Now he was locked up and all he had was alcohol. He's starving now I guess dude's tomato soup wasn't enough. Oh, I'm sorry. I got I got the names confused, eric I thought it was boggle that said that I knew I knew that I knew I'd heard it before I thought it was from a movie or something I'm sorry I'm sorry I was like what I think chat scrolled as soon as I read that And I mixed up the names because you were right above him with whoa He is very very high hailey. That's the best way I can put it.  Yeah, man been dead Here it comes. Here comes the fight He's so cute on tmc.  Yeah, this is this this is the fight I was talking about My second part favorite part of the movie And this reminds me of the old school movies They say he was trying to do better there at the end like the last couple months he was alive, but yeah That's what I'm saying that this whole movie is like a video game Yes, that's me rolling away in dark souls.   Highlander meets mad max. That's exactly what this movie reminds me of Don't put that cigarette in your mouth. You don't know whose cigarette that is You don't know what they got Yeah, you're like you're at least like a minute ahead of us hailey Don't do anything about it. I'm just saying Or ahead of me anyways Sigs are so cool. Stop it, baby. Stop it.   He was in a bunch of stuff But uh, my favorite role in him with him in it is uh in vesper It's a sci-fi movie on hulu I'm sorry to question your definition of cool It's cool, man.  Yeah, richard break He was even he was the only good part of zombies, uh three from hell I think I wish he was in more more stuff This man getting his tiger lizzie high Clint Howard was The clown he didn't last long that's for sure. Yeah, he was in barbarian He put that was another movie. He was just in bed for um So he pretty much plays like the same character in vesper vsper He's stuck in bed But he plays a good guy in that one reminds me of christopher walkin in a In the prophecy. No, no, uh Aragon Uh Viggo mortison Uh In the prophecy when he plays satan. He has the black eyes.  I gave him a smoking. So it's fine. I'm glad Everybody thought james dean was cool and he smoked Makes a mean breakfast sausage, too Somebody gonna get mad about that one Is james dean cool or he's the reason I quit ribbon darts I knew what you meant lazy Derek wants to know james dean is the reason You think it's cool or If he's the reason you quit smoking I'm getting a kick out of this conversation for whatever reason Probably because I'm high 10 dollars off jimmy dean, but I've never seen that Wow, you lucky bastard I mean all sausage tastes the same in my opinion get your minds out of the gutter, but those two it's I don't I don't know. I'm not I'm not I've been I don't have an ad yet But I'm not picky about my breakfast sausage Actually, I take that back our local food outlet has some amazing stuff that they make Anytime their pork is about to go bad So if it doesn't sell by the best buy date, they take it back. They grind it all up and make it into sausage It's pretty damn good But still at the same time, I'm not gonna be like It's also like two 45 a pound A whole pound for two dollars and 45 cents Some sausage is higher quality. I yeah, I got you but I just like that's not where I'm you know That's exactly where I'm watching my budget, right?  Australia cost 50 dollars a pack 50 dollars I was talking about did you ever come to scotland you got to try square sausage I I got I got it. I got it. Derek, but I was trying to bring us back around to just like sausage Derek's like, I don't know about you and my dick tastes good See, this is where we go. This is where we always end up. This is where we always end up I'm uh, I'm I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to look up a square sausage I know what makes it so different.  Are you shitting me? Oh my god. Okay, never mind Our Duncan sells square sausage Yeah, you're Derek you you hit the nail on the head bacons Like like premium stuff.   It's just a scottish scottish thing to Took it took it to the hill. Hmm They call him the throat goat brother swan is the official throat goat. Oh, oh I just by the two. Yeah, exactly.   I want bacon now me two solvents.  I honestly can't tell Vegan sausage is terrible. I don't know. I like those like uh bratwurst that they make that are vegan I like those. I don't mind those at all But we don't we don't stop watching this movie I know what's happened only because I've seen it. Hey, look, it's Patrick Cox said her again Soy chorizo is good. Oh, yeah, so I treat oh I can't eat a regular chorizo anymore because of I got uh food poisoning and then Like the last thing I ate that day. It wasn't the chorizo that made me sick But the last thing I ate that day was chorizo and the next morning chorizo Does not taste good coming up But soy chorizo I can I can dig on y'all Hailey likes a high quality sausage With high meat content She needs a high quality sausage with high meat Oh, yeah, all these fantastic Chorizo chickens do sounds amazing Yeah, we we shop all the first and then we go over to food outlet or what we call hood outlet. Um For uh for meat and then Like there's certain brands that all of these doesn't have that that we're obsessed with that will go to win Dixie But yeah, we we bounce all around We're that we're that family that will buy burgers from like sonic fries from mcdonald's and then like shakes from like steak and shake We'll we get all of that stuff Hailey I got a source of world right now We're creating these Stop it behavior Hailey's over there blushing going. What have I gotten myself into that sounds really good Change saw fight Doesn't get much more metal than that Do I need to report you no Why do I want why do I suddenly want to get into a chainsaw battle? Like I would die so quickly I got way too much girth I'm a too big of a target I like it when I like watching it with y'all too.  Well, there you go Hailey Shop at h e b I haven't started reading it yet.  This kind of sounds like what is that song? Is it planet caravan?  Yeah, I don't look this Small when I'm sitting down and I realize that but I'm not doing anything dirty. I'm just stretching There's like 10 minutes left. Yeah, I know Oh, I have drank this whole thing since I've been out there out here No, I'm good solvents. I'm good. I'm good to the end Back meeting. Yeah, I drink almost its whole thing. I've been drinking Had to wash down that cold pizza.  That's some pretty good special effects He come to choppy choppy off your little weenie You'll be in a snousage You know what does taste different like different brands of Vienna sausages I don't know why But if you don't get a quality Vienna sausage, that should taste like dog food A lot of people think it tastes that way anyways, but He's meat without a soul Is he supposed to look like he's got like breasts? This is an honest question Because it looks like he has blurry breasts Am I just like hallucinating titties Vienna isn't great or media enough for me I mean, I got you but When you broke you broke, you know by the mystic spam I love it.  So I didn't say it was bad with mayo.  Oh bologna fried sandwiches with mustard. Oh Wait a second. Your sister used to dip hot pockets in ravioli I'm way too high for that sentence Like the chef by d ravioli I am so confused right now How do you dip a hot pocket into ravioli? Oh, that's gnarly. I love it though. I love it Makes me feel good in my soul meat Oh, that's that's what I'm wondering. It's got to be like the chef by the sauce the ravioli sauce Derek you're gonna have to expound on that my friend Hem and cheese hot pockets and dunking in a bowl of chef already. That's what I thought you were saying. That's what I thought you were saying I don't sound bad, bro. I don't sound bad at all. I don't know. I'm just a fat fuck, but that doesn't sound bad at all Okay, so my theory now that we're at the end of the movie.  It's just a revenge like So I guess he and mandy don't get back together What did you want him to do snort her his snort her ashes like what boggled Just take a full line Mandy mean you were one again. Oh now this time you're in me This movie is mean. Yeah, of course it is That is a great image This movie is mean You tickle me That pizza's got some indigestion kicking.  It's just experience Oh, it's tasty.   Imagine how I feel I'm high. I got the munchie Bo was afraid is like that. I'm looking forward to watching it It's like a dream watching a dream and coming away with feelings and experience. Exactly. Yeah So it's good just based on that for me like I love the experience of it But yeah, don't even bother trying to piece anything together It's just a psychedelic revenge movie It's so sweet See, this is why I think he's dead The lighting changes after a certain point and it's just and in this scene That is an iconic fucking image Graduate film students have gone insane trying to explain this music this movie. I can't talk when I'm high guys All right.  Thanks solvents. I appreciate the membership Just to let you know, I don't do anything special for members. It's just you supporting the channel. So I don't like putting up paywalls You're welcome. We'll do it more if you want it I I actually prefer this to game night, but I appreciate you. Thank you solvents Chastity punch sodas. Wow spaghetti for oh man.   I didn't remember like the last 15 minutes of that movie Other than that shot, but that's only because it's like all over It's all over goddamn twitter It makes more sense to me if he is dead. Yeah, I'm I'm pretty sure he's supposed to have died at that point But maybe not I don't know Like it explains how he's still walking and how he is able to kill the right Yeah, I always saw that last shot as this is the world. He now inhabits Very good point. That could definitely be it or we could be we could literally be in a situation now because home dude When he went to go see bill duke I was thinking maybe you know after they did the ritual they were transported to a different place But he was able to go see his old homie. So It's whatever Yeah, that was fun. We should do this again. Um You know, we'll have every sunday in october. We're gonna have movie night. So I don't know where your dollar went. I don't know. I'm sorry. It never popped up Dainty dick tends to leave an impression Uh, and where I don't know where your Where your dollar is You better didn't need to contact youtube because if they're just stealing folks dollars. I'm gonna be mad Yeah, we're gonna do the steven keen trivia next week So we'll be uh, we'll be doing that next week and then every sunday in Every sunday in october is going to be a sunday cinema. It'll be a halloween themed movie But if you guys want to do more sunday cinemas, all you got to do is ask Honestly, you know the only reason Not the only reason but the reason I did this is because this was one of the things that people were asking for um, I think boggle mentioned, um And is there a prize? Yeah, we're gonna do the mystery box Yeah spooky movies, definitely. We'll probably um I got several movies. I want to watch around that time I'll put them up for votes on the community the community tab in september. So keep an eye out for that So I have this is what I have for uh, there's only six of you here, but I'll tell you anyways This is what I have for october. We have new release week, which is All new, uh horror books that I've read that came out this year We have classics week which is going to be We're gonna be talking about The woman in white The mysteries of udolfo Uh, the castle of atronto and the monk Then we are going to be doing a movie week Um, and then we'll wrap it up with a history Of horror week And it's cool that cage seems to have gotten rid of the evil guys from beyond the grave. Yeah Ooh udolfo udolfo not you It's just dofo mysteries of dofo The house that that's the ad that's what that they're suggesting I watch next Um before I paused it. I haven't I know what it's about Um, and it is very disturbing and that's one of the reasons why I have not watched it um, it's one of those movies that I've been told uh Is not fun to watch at whatsoever um It's kind of like not as bad as but it's kind of like serbian film that kind of thing Okay, y'all so new video in the morning. What do we got coming up tomorrow? Uh, we have random books. I think about often, which is the discussion video We have uh, then the collaborating the vods will keep going and I'll also be live tomorrow but we got a vod on Uh, what tuesday and then on wednesday we have a review of this book uh, the tiger's wife by tl britt And then thursday we have another Vod going live And then friday, um, I have my favorite book covers Uh, and then saturday Let's see here We got a stream saturday So it'd probably be another vod and then on sunday.  That's not live A re upload of a live I'll try to make the live tomorrow. Uh, enjoy your night. You have a good night too solvents. I'll see you Uh, thanks for the hangout and watching along. You're welcome. Holloway. It's always always fun Why do you do a live stream and then replace it with a vod because it doesn't show up in my videos? You have to either has to pop up in your timeline or um, anyways, it's not really searchable on my page Because if you go to just videos at least on my end if you go to just videos That's it doesn't pop up You have to go looking for the lives. Um, so when you upload it It ends up in your list of videos I don't know You'll be driving to pt.  I appreciate you guys Um All right, so bye lazy by boggle by solvents by hailey by derrick by holloway Am I missing anybody? I don't think I am attain if you're still here Bye. I appreciate you guys. Love y'all talk to you tomorrow And until next time I'll hail the chair


Good afternoon everybody and thanks for joining us. I'm Michael Wooten, Chief Executive Officer and I'm joined here today on my left by Margaret Thomas, Acting E.D. of People and Culture, Phil Harbert Acting E.D. Performance and Strategy, Deputy Chief Officer John Haynes and knowledgeable Cormac Acting Executive Director of Business Services. The purpose of today's session really is to start to give people an opportunity to contribute to the fire services review and to contribute specifically to CFA's submission to that review. So it's about listening. We'll answer questions where we can and if people have got comments or input that they want to make in the context of the reviews, in terms of reference, then we'll certainly capture that today and consider it in the context of our submission. We just wanted to talk perhaps briefly at the start about the review itself before we go into gathering feedback and what we're trying to hope to achieve in terms of our submission. So for those of you who have read the terms of reference, they're very broad and far reaching but they generally cover four key areas, resourcing operations management and culture and specifically the review will look at what resources are needed to ensure Victoria is properly equipped and fire ready, to look at interoperability between the fire agencies, to look at management structures, culture, work practices and have volunteers should be supported. So it covers a wide range of areas across our entire organisation and areas of other other agencies as well. So as I've been out and about even in the last week or two talking about the review and even this morning in Dandenong, one of the key pieces of feedback we get already is around the timelines for the review and we appreciate that those timelines are extraordinarily tight but they're timelines that have been set by others and CFA intends to work within those timelines no matter how tight they are. So we have a requirement to make a written submission to the review by the end of August which effectively is less than two weeks away now. A number of other agencies specifically have been asked to make a written submission within the same timeframes and in addition to that last week the review opened itself up to submissions from the general public and they've set up a website for the review where any member of the community can make a submission for the consideration of the review team. The review will then prepare a report for our minister's consideration by the end of September. We've put together a small team given the timeframe to work intensively on our submission and a couple of those people are here in the room today. Obviously the people around me as members of ELT and the foreign emergency management leadership team have a key role in terms of contributing subject matter expertise and strategic input into the preparation of our submission. We're dealing and approaching the review as an opportunity. It's a way for CFA to put forward a positive response that may canvas some suggestions and ideas for how we may improve going forward as an organisation to provide a better service for the community. But our mission has been and will continue to protect lives and property and that's one of the key messages of our submission. I've already received pieces of feedback about people reading into the review, what they think it means and I appreciate and acknowledge those concerns. As I said, the terms of reference are very broad but I'm also aware that we're an organisation that's experienced significant change and has been involved in a large number of inquiries, reviews and other like procedures over the past decade. This isn't new ground for CFA. So I think we're well versed in being able to present a coherent and constructive submission to the review. We don't know exactly what change will come out of the review if any. As I said, the review has to report to the minister by the end of September. I think that is designed around not interrupting the fire season and our preparations for the fire season. Whether any government would consider significant change in the context of a fire season is a question in my mind. But there could be things that might be changed in the short term. There may be other things that might be looked at in the longer term and considered post fire season into next year. One of the difficulties with the timelines has obviously been getting access to our people across the state. That's a challenge and continues to be. Having these sorts of forums is one way we address that. I acknowledge that that's not ideal. But at the same time, given the timeframes, we're just not going to be able to get out and about across the state in terms of time and space. Forums like this and another one tonight and written feedback from our members is important and is valued. And I would welcome any contribution that people want to make in whatever form best suits them. So on that note, I might open it up. There's people obviously in the room today and people hopefully watching and listening. So we've got a mechanism to receive questions electronically. And we've also got people here who can ask questions or just provide their thoughts in terms of a scattering feedback. So happy to take any of that now. Mark, so about December. So Mark's, Mark's, Mark's question was about when we think the review outcomes or report, I imagine, will be fully announced. It's unclear to me. I'm not sure how long the minister has determined she would need to consider the report and its recommendations. I expect that's the form that will take and then subject to her views, how she would then obviously discuss that with her cabinet colleagues and government more generally. So again, if there were things that the report recommended could be done in the short term, they might be pieces of work that might be known and implemented more quickly. And there could be other pieces that take more time. I haven't got a clear line aside about the government's proposed response, Mark. Do we have any questions, John? We've got one last question. Can you assure us that the review and the union won't remove volunteers from service? Yeah, so the whole question around our service delivery model is one piece of feedback that we've been getting right from Day Dot. My sense is having had a conversation with the team leading the preparation of our submission, already harnessing the thoughts of ELT and yesterday we spent time with the CFA board doing the same thing. One of the things we want to do with our submission at the front end is really talk about our service delivery model and why we believe it works. So, you know, our model is quite unique. And the notion of volunteers and career firefighters in a service delivery sense working together, we believe works well. And we will be making the point of their submission that we believe that's what underpins our organisation. So in terms of remaining a community-paced emergency service organisation, comprised of volunteers and career staff across 1,220 brigades, I think that'll be a point we'll make at the front end. Okay, I'll put it on the live stream questions at the moment. Well, the simple answer, John, I don't know. We talk about our entire organisation and there are many elements to the organisation, but each of them in my eyes are valued equally. CFA people are CFA people, regardless of the exact nature of their role or whether they're paid or not. So I think, you know, as I said, the model for the number of integrated brigades we have works well, where we need to support volunteers with career firefighters, we do that. Our model will continue on that basis unless there's clear direction that that needs to change. So you know, on a day to day basis, we'll continue to do things around interoperability. We'll continue to try and provide the best service that we can to the community that we serve. So I'm not sure at ground level, in terms of what we do day to day that there's going to be significant change. It talks about management structure and things like that. So that sort of takes us up a number of levels from the people who work at our sort of frontline service delivery end. Does our submission anticipate any great changes the way CFA does what it does? So how we look now may be different to how we look in a couple of years time? Well, I think in terms of the service delivery model, probably not, but in terms of us being open to change and improvement, absolutely. So, you know, we've got and we've spent a considerable amount of time and effort in the last 18 months or so working on five key strategies, particularly our linchpin around service delivery. It identifies a number of challenges and opportunities for us in the service delivery sense going forward over the next few years. So, you know, we need to be attuned to demographic change. We need to be attuned to climate change. We need to be attuned to growth in some parts of the state and downsizing in other parts of the state. We've got to take all that into consideration. But I still think the underpinning model works. So I'm not saying it won't result in change, but I would have thought, you know, we've got a model that works, but it could be improved in a number of ways and we'd be open to that. Okay, another live stream one. When will the new CFA chief be appointed? Which is that the chief officer or the chief executive office? Oh, it could be both. He could actually answer both as well. But it says the CFA chief. Well, the, the, well, okay, I'll answer both. So the CEO process is very well advanced. And I think the board will be conducting interviews of a small number of shortlisted candidates in the very near future. In relation to the CFA chief officer, that process started in the last few weeks and has been advertised nationally. I think the the board and the relevant agency are still working through people who have expressed an interest. So that one will progress. But it's, I think it's a few weeks behind the CEO. Okay. Another online. And it's probably you or me. It's definitely me. Does the MFB CFA boarders need to be realigned to improve service delivery? Service delivery, strategy, discussion paper years ago, about three years ago, talked about what other other options, other models. Does the MFB CFA boarder need to be realigned? I think not. And there's a lot of different models you can do if that is an issue out of the review. But you know, again, we're putting a submission in that talks about, you know, CFA territory and how we do and provide our service. So again, we'll be putting up that, you know, how our current model or a slight change of our model would be the option we're going to go with. So in my view, my personal view, I don't think the borders need to change to improve service delivery because we're delivering the service today. Michael, the terms of reference to the review, my reading seem to have a very responsive focus in our submission. Will we be emphasising the importance of community preparedness prevention and so forth? Absolutely. I think it talks about interoperability in a couple of them right, but it also talks about how we can best support our people to protect communities. One of the ways we can do that is through education and engagement. So I would have thought our submission will talk about the full range of services, not just response as important as that is. There's a number of other things that I think we do in terms of the preparedness piece that we want to focus on as well. So, yes. I'll write it online, too. I'd be surprised, it's my personal view, Chris. I'd be surprised if the review went to immediate changes to the strategic action plan. I think it's a document that we've worked up collectively. It's only just been recently launched by the minister. I would have thought in terms of what the review might recommend, those things in the SAPs still need to occur. And some of them are shorter term, some of them are longer term actions, but my sense would be that those activities would still need to occur, albeit in a collaborative joined up way. I'd be surprised if the SAP changed any meaningful way in the short term. Given it's a rolling document, there could be things that happened that adjust it from year to year, but I would have thought for the 1516 deliverables that stay as they are. So the question was about the management structures and the potential closer alignment of the MFB and CFA management structures. I think they're already blended to a certain extent, Linda, in terms of the interoperability and the fact that we support each other, particularly on the boundary. We do a lot of things together with the MFB and other agencies already. So I think we're down that path a fair way. I don't see that stopping. It may go to things like procurement and other things, but again, we're doing things right now, breathing apparatus. As we go forward, helmets, PPC, things are going to be relatively common, I would have thought. But we've got to remember that in that space, we've got an agency of many thousands of people who are impacted by those things. So would the review look at other options? Quite possibly, yeah, I'm not sure, hasn't been raised with me directly by the general who's conducting the review, but people may put in submissions that take us there. That would be a place they might look at. But it's probably something that the review will have to consider if it wants to make recommendations on. But I think we join up pretty well already, to be honest, and do things hand in glove. So the question was about the legislation that underpins the operation of the fire agencies in Victoria. It hasn't been raised against specifically, but I would have thought in the context that our submission, some of the overarching piece will be what the statutory framework is. If there were recommendations around that, I would have thought they'd be more in the longer term and the short term basket, John. Given time to look at potential changes, just the parliamentary process in terms of legislative change. We're in a spring session now. If things are going to be developed in terms of proposals, that would go into next year, I would have thought at the very earliest, perhaps even longer. So I'm not sure we would be proposing anything specific in terms of legislative change, but the review may want to go there. There's already change happening in the emergency planning and the Emergency Management Act right now around fire prevention planning and state emergency response arrangements and those sort of things. So there's things on foot, whether the review might want to build on some of those probably a little bit early to say. But again, I wouldn't have thought that'd be stuff that had happened straight after the review's reports submitted. So the question was around culture and how we might address the terms of recommendation to do with culture. I think we would talk about the fact that in culture, CFA, I can only talk really about CFA is on a bit of a journey. And we've taken the temperature of the organisation in terms of culture a couple of times and recognised that there's things we need to do to address how we might have a better culture in the workplace. So we would talk a bit about that and we'd be open and honest about that, but we would talk about where we want to take it to and some of the steps we need to complete to get to that destination. We would probably talk about the fact that, again, CFA is different in the sense that it does have multiple cultures. And I've talked about that in other forums around volunteer culture and rural and regional culture and metropolitan and command and control. So there's a number of different elements for CFA. I think part of anyone reading our submission that would be good understanding about the organisation. I can't talk to the culture of the MFB. I honestly, you know, I think to truly, we could all talk about things we've heard anecdotal. But in terms of what the culture is actually like in any other organisation, I think I'd need to work there to understand it and talk about it. Good enough live stream one. Does the review provide an opportunity to improve interoperability? You're looking at me. So yes, it will. And again, we just think about you and me, everybody pays a levy and a fire service levy. And we want the best result for our dollars, if you like. So are there things that we can improve interoperable sense with teeth backing? And we're already doing it. We're already doing Breathing Apparatus. I've got an interoperability committee, which is the chief sits on, chief of MFB, EMV and U of U. And it's about trying to get the best bang for the buck, if you like. So already doing BA, talking about helmets. I know there's work already been done on fire truck design. And again, for a plug in the strategy wise, it was already put in our network of strategies about we're going to improve interoperability in the future anyway. So it's on our agenda too. So the review, I think, might just reinforce that view that we will get closer and together and making sure we get the best bang for the buck. So will the submissions to the review be publicly available? And we'll see if a submission be available to members. My understanding from David O'Burn who's conducting the review is that all submissions will be made public, unless the person or agency making the submission requests. Otherwise, it'd be my expectation that CFA submission will be a public document and available to not only our members, but the community at large. And will any part of the submission be joined with MFB? Or is it a separate submission? I don't know yet. I think one of the things I've been trying to do over the last few days is connect up with some of the other agencies to get a better understanding of what their approach might be to the review. And in those conversations, the prospect of potential joined up submissions has been canvassed, but there's been no, we haven't reached a position on any of that. So it's something that I've talked about with a few people, but we haven't, haven't leaned on whether we might do that or not just yet. So it's more to come in that space, I think. Thanks, Tony. The question was about if boundaries did change and MFB went into our metropolitan part, if you like, how would our capacity to form strike teams be done? One of the strengths CFA has got is ability for surge capacity and to get a lot of people moving around the state or interstate very quickly. That's a precious thing that we can't lose. So if we had full MFB coverage of that area, they'd have to be factored in some sort of surge capacity to do that, because the state can't afford to lose it. So, you know, we're known for that flexibility and our ability to do that. And I think that's a precious thing that we've got to hold on to. Okay, another question is that what level of influence does CFA have compared to the U of U on the review? Michael? Thank you, John. Well, you know, we would like to think that we all have equal standing in terms of our contributions to the review. And again, my conversations with David O'Burn have indicated that he's starting with a clean slate. He's prepared to listen and read all the submissions and input that he receives before he comes up with his recommendation. So my sense is that we have just as much opportunity as any other individual or organisation to make whatever statements we want to and for the review to consider those. So one last chance before we wind things up. Any last questions? We've got more online, but we can always deal with those separately after the session. So in closing, I just say thanks for coming along. Thanks for listening and tuning in as the case may be. This isn't the only opportunity to make your thoughts known. So as I said, there's an email address and there's a conversation she can have with myself or other LTE members in terms of making your contribution to our submission. Someone asked me this morning whether, you know, would individual CFA members be making submissions? What do we think of that? That's entirely an issue for each individual to consider. The review has said that it will accept submissions from individuals across the entire state. So that's a matter for each person to consider for themselves. There's an email address, as we said. We make our submission by the end of August. And once that's done, we'll work with the review team if they have any further questions or any other assistance we can provide them before they report at the end of September. And on that note, I'll close the session. Thank you.


myfwng i'r ddechrau i'r eisteddfwyllt y bwrdd y cyddemach agai cyfrifolau a gyfrifolau a'r dyfanc. Dyma'r ysgrifennad ei wedi hynny i llwyf Trustaeth, neu'n dod yn cael bod i gael'u cyfrifolau yn gwybod at y cyfrifolau, sydd ddwy'r argylcheddawr y Gwelch Cymru. Mae llwyddi cerddurdodd yng Nghymru yn dweud y Cyfrifolau Pwylltig oxideisgwydau a'r Pwylltig panell ar gyfrifolau mae'r cyfrifolau ar gyfer cael eu cyfrifolau, The new Secretary-General's commission, she is going to be a member of that on the peacekeeping commission, which she has set up relatively recently. Of course, he has taken office in the first of January. She's worked on peace and security policy and operations at UN headquarters including UN peace operations in Mali and Afghanistan, civilian capacities and peace operations, security sector reform, economic governments initiatives and partnerships with regional organisations, and on the ground she has served in UN peace operations in Syria, Afghanistan, Democratic Republic of Congo and in Haiti. Before joining the UN in 2005, Renata was head of SIPRI, the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute programme on Armed Conflict and Conflict Management, and prior to that she was special advisor to the EU, to the EU Council Secretariat for the Planning of the First EU Crisis Management Operation, and was deputy director of the East West Institute European Security programme from 97 to 1999. Dr Duann has received her doctorate in philosophy from the University of Oxford and was a full bright scholar in Princeton, and she has also published widely on peacekeeping international crisis management. That's a lengthy and very distinguished career and leads us to welcome the thoughts and the address that she will give. Obviously, the peacekeeping operations are very much a front line for the UN. They are a highly visible operation of the UN functions, and over the seven decades, I think there have been over 120 states have contributed it, so it's a very widely seen and acknowledged arm of UN functions. Of course, it's particularly so in Ireland, where since 1958 we have continuously been sending troops abroad, and we see it here as very much a feature of our foreign policy, our contribution to peace and conflict resolution, but of course there are huge challenges at the moment. The world has changed, the conflicts have changed, the actors have changed, so it will be of considerable interest to hear from you, Renata, of your view on peacekeeping in a divided world, what is the role of the UN? Thank you very much, everyone, and it's a pleasure to be here today, and it's also a chance for me to come home, so that's even more of a nice experience. Coming from atlone, as I do with the memorial to UN fallen peacekeepers, literally steps from my house, it is a very sort of personal meets professional always for me to be thinking about the role of Ireland in peacekeeping. I think where we are today in peacekeeping, in light of the current global environment, the surge in conflicts after a significant period of decline, the refugee crisis that has reached unparalleled needs, and of course in size, and the perspective of the incoming administrations or elections in multiple countries, both in Europe and of course the new Trump administration, it's fair to say are we at a time where it's the end of a commitment to global organizations and to peace and security efforts by global organizations. So I think these sorts of conversations are urgent and they're going to become more urgent in the course of the years as we go ahead, as we move ahead into what is a very uncertain time. What I want to discuss today a little bit is currently in global environments, the UN, but also the EU, the World Bank and other institutions, there's a lot of focus on peace building and how to sustain peace and fragile context and you have institutions like the World Bank spending a lot of money in these areas and you've seen last year the Security Council and the General Assembly agree a groundbreaking resolution on sustaining peace which is sort of a commitment to look more much more at the bookends of conflict, the prevention side before the conflict and after the conflict breaks out and a feeling that we've spent too much time thinking about the conflict phase and that we need to spend much more time thinking about the prevention and the sustaining peace of the conflicts. So this is also a priority for the new secretary general who has come in on an agenda of prevention and on trying to do much more to sustain peace on the other side and a call to people to stop having just a crisis response and just a sort of when the crisis is at its hottest then to say now we have to do something. So that has been sort of the current mood in some of the debates both in the academic world and certainly in the policy world at multilateral institutions. Now in some cases this is almost seen as an alternative to peacekeeping. Let's move in this peace building direction and let's sort of this peacekeeping thing let's leave it aside. Now what I want to argue today is that it's a mistake to approach peacekeeping and peacebuilding as two separate entities but that they're essentially intertwined. Peacekeeping is an essential component of any peacebuilding and successful peacekeeping relies on incorporating a peacebuilding approach and I want to argue that as we go forward in what is going to be a very rocky year ahead we are going to have to rethink what we mean by peacebuilding and how what we mean by peacekeeping in that. So where is the the mood on peacekeeping? Well if you look at the numbers alone as Mary suggested it looks pretty good 125 countries participating in it, 16 missions around the world, 118,000 people participating in UN peacekeeping of which 100,000 are military and police that is a significant global operation. Seven decades long perception of international legitimacy and longevity. So does that story look pretty good and of course you had under the Obama administration a commitment of the US to come behind peacekeeping and you've had three years of successive fairly high global summits on peacekeeping to increase the base of peacekeeping you've had Obama even chair one of them and you have of course last year in London the third peacekeeping summit. Budget high some eight billion dollars and now you've seen increasingly in the last couple of years the return of Europeans to peacekeeping. I don't mean Ireland or Sweden and countries that have traditionally maintained but I'm talking about Germany in the Netherlands and so coming back to to peacekeeping after a significant period of non-participation. So that looks pretty good perhaps the signs are that it's a tool that has acceptability and people are participating in it. Now if you look at the research side of things which of course being good international civil servants we rarely do any empirical basis or rebranding on research but if you do look at the research the research also points to correlating data that peacekeeping in countries emerging from conflict tends to reduce the chances of that country falling back into conflict and of course for those of you who are students you'll know that work Doyle and Sanbanes from 2000 page four from 2006. So essentially it's it's also saying on the whole peacekeepers tend to go to more violent conflicts where that had been going on for longer and on the whole the data demonstrates that where peacekeepers are deployed the chances of falling back into conflict are reduced. So that's perhaps a good story and is that a good new story. Well if you're in New York today or perhaps in the media of any one of our countries that's not how it looks. There's a perception fairly widespread perception that peacekeeping is in trouble and or even failing and there's very multiple factors that have led to that. One of course is the significant problem around sexual exploitation and abuse by peacekeepers in mission areas that may be undertaken by a small number of peacekeepers but it has cast a negative light on the conduct of peacekeepers on the accountability and on the ability of the UN to manage and it's significant because at the moment in the US Congress there are bills about cutting funding for the UN for various factors but one of which is because of the problem of sexual exploitation and abuse. So that has cast a dark cloud in public perceptions and and the idea whether the UN can control its peacekeepers. A second issue of course is the cost. We're still emerging from a global financial recession context is difficult and eight billion dollars seems like a lot of money. It is a lot of money even if it's less than half of one percent of world military expenditure. It is paid through compulsory assessed budget contributions of member states and that has been a constraint. Another area that I think is a perception of it's not working is the idea that somehow it's maybe what you might call the dog that doesn't bark. People now and I've just come back from Unifil last week to look at a mission in response to a security council perception that you know it's casting a lot of money and the place seems pretty peaceful and like why should we be keeping a lot of troops and money and material out there? Well maybe the troops and the material that are out there are contributing to that piece but it's a little bit difficult to demonstrate that argument so it's a bit like the dog that didn't bark. Is it because of the peacekeepers there that it's quite so demonstrating success isn't always easy. There is a perception of protracted conflict recovery. How long it takes for a country to get back on track. Look at Haiti and Liberia where the past two years we've been successfully trying to close those missions and downsize them and there's a perception of are they ready yet is it always too fragile to move in beyond the departure of the peacekeeping. Certainly the president of Liberia continues to argue that the presence of UN police is absolutely essential for the stability of the country and similar you get a similar tension in Haiti and then of course you've got the very difficult context of South Sudan in particular but also Sudan and DRC where presence of peacekeepers takes place amongst that all out violence as in the case of South Sudan or significant political crisis like the Congo. So when you combine that with a sense of the cost and the record it's there's a perception of we deploy these troops we deploy all these operations and why is there not a sustainable peace and recovery in the country concern. The reality is also too that the UN has been deployed into more and more intense and violent conflicts. If you think about Mali and the mission there which was deployed in the light of perceived Islamic threat by Islamic extremist organisations if you look at the countries like Somalia where AU peacekeepers are authorized by the UN to deploy against the threat of al-Shabaab the perception that UN peacekeeping is more and more being deployed to intense ongoing conflicts where there is no peace to keep and where the threat is coming from armed groups that have no desire to participate in a political process and indeed are targeting the UN. So I think these sets of issues have left a lot of doubt and a fundamental crisis of confidence amongst many in what's the purpose of peacekeeping and where and how it should continue to play a role in the future. I think a consequence of that crisis of confidence has been you've seen increased political tensions between member states about what they think peacekeeping should do. So if you look at the Security Council and the debates over renewals of mandate debates over what peacekeepers should do in DRC whether protection of civilians should be a task for peacekeeping whether the UN peacekeepers should engage in reform of state institutions that's become a tension between security council members who are themselves divided as never before it's become a tension between the security council and the troop contributing countries who say we're the ones sending our troops to undertake the mandates that you yourselves have have defined but are not willing to send troops to it's created tension between the peacekeeping operations and the whole state where there is a perception that the that sovereignty is being interfered if you look countries like South Sudan or like the like DRC which has for three years running PNG in other words sent out persona non grataid the human rights the head of the human rights component of the mission. So that tension in terms of what the mission is mandated to do and what the whole state is willing to accept or do has left a sense that there's a political loss of unity there's also I think in particularly in light of the dangerous environments of peacekeeping today an increasing focus on the military operations and the activities that's partly a consequence of the environments and the very dangerous environments that peacekeepers are going into it's partly a consequence of the lack of political unity which faced with a lack of political unity the focus then becomes military activities stability efforts protection of civilians I do want to flag that ironically the return of the Europeans to peacekeeping in my view has increased a little bit that tendency to take a very much military focus on operations and I think that's partly that many of those countries are coming from a NATO experience a NATO experience in Iraq and Afghanistan perhaps not as institutionalized in the culture as perhaps Irish troops or even Swedish or Finnish troops in the culture of having a civilian command and of working side by side with civilians so that has led to I think an increased focus on operations military capabilities performance of the military side and that you see in the council today with this focus on on debates around use of force and the drive to get more enablers and capabilities so where do we see that spanning out I mentioned Lebanon last week you see the council wanting to cut all community outreach activities or some on the council I should say you see them saying and the driver for that being why are the troops doing these sorts of community outreach civilian activities let's let's revise that you see China in in the budgetary processes not approving any political affairs officers or or looking at human rights activities and saying why do we need that in a peacekeeping operation you see Russia fairly seriously opposed to any references to human rights mandates and to capacities and normative engagement on human rights issues in peacekeeping operations and you see real tensions over extensions of mandates whether Liberia should continue to benefit from a peacekeeping operation or not so that's where I think some of these tensions are back what I want to argue here is that the implications of this division and this implication of understanding peacekeeping increasingly as a kinetic and operational military driven activity is not good neither for peacekeeping and for the political cohesion behind it but not good either for practical peacebuilding and the effect and the capability of the UN intervention to contribute to peace let's go back again to statistics for a minute if you look at the data analysis the data has looked at the types of operations and what are more likely to contribute to peace so page four now has looked at this over time and said found that multi-dimensional operations in other words operations that include police civilian military components that include political human rights civil affairs community activities disarmament on all those activities that go alongside a significant effort have had more chance to maintain peace than more traditional limited military ceasefire monitoring missions and interestingly the data is also pointing that to the success of peacekeeping is mainly due to its non-military mechanisms so the decision of armed groups not to go back to war and to keep the peace is about changing the incentives of violence alleviating fear building more trust avoiding accidental escalation into war and the while these are important things that the military contributes to they're also critically led by political processes and efforts to change perspectives views and incentives so we understand therefore peacekeeping as primarily a political tool that draws on and uses important military and police assets security assets but that is not in and of itself a military tool for the purposes of military objectives so security is critical for any peacekeeping for any peacebuilding activity and peacekeepers do contribute to that effort by creating an enabling environment but the idea that somehow that a military and security perspective and a political and peacebuilding perspective can be separate is blatantly demonstrated by all our experiences so far to be not the case some have said then well why do we pay for expensive peacekeeping we could perhaps put that money into aid development aid humanitarian aid and drive tackle poverty in the root causes of conflict that might lead to conflict well again the literature is mixed on that one there is not any indication at the moment that aid has a significant effect in stabilizing post-conflict situations it has a moderate effect but but not a significant effect so the idea somehow that putting money just development aid alone and in and of itself will not necessarily achieve stability so what we're coming back to is how do then do we have this integrated approach of a political security development in human rights component therefore I would argue then that peacebuilding and a peacekeeping approach to peacebuilding is critical for the success of the peacebuilding effort and for the success of the peacekeeping operation but we will need to approach it differently in the new world in which we now work on maybe first a couple of elements as to what would be a new or understanding an approach to peacebuilding in a peacekeeping in a new peacekeeping context the first I think would be the need to rethink some of the drivers of conflict up until perhaps the Arab spring we may try to make it or there was a direct correlation often made between poverty and conflict poor poverty leads to conflict and so we found ourselves then a bit non plusd when Syria happened and when the Arab spring happened where you saw countries that according to poverty development indexes were middle income countries or approaching middle income status erupting in conflict and likewise you have conflict you've countries like Malawi countries fairly low down on the conflict in the development index that have not had conflict so we've had to rethink what does the link between poverty and conflict we know that poverty creates conditions that can result in people using violence armed violence and we know that sudden shocks in a country the collapse of of the gold industry or if it's a mining country the collapse of money can have create shocks that a country can't manage to overcome but more and more we've become become aware of from the Arab spring on that when we think about conflict we're looking at the relative inequality between communities and societies in a conflict and that exclusion and inclusion of communities and societies in the state's governance and in the state's resources tends to have a much more significant correlation for chances of violence and violence so for those of you of course who follow some of the development debates you'll have seen in the sustainable development goals this emphasis now on inclusion and that inclusive society stand a greater chance of peace and of avoiding and managing crises than non inclusive societies so if we were to approach that understanding from peacekeeping what does that mean and how might that affect where where we might not look well one thing it would change is the emphasis of the state building experiment that we see in Iraq and Afghanistan so if we think about Iraq and Afghanistan and the ISAF the international security assistance force the American led effort in both countries we saw their massive exercises to rebuild entire states we saw emphasis on recreating an army from scratch in the case of Iraq significant creation of new police forces in in Afghanistan we saw the overhauling of the constitution in Afghanistan we saw the complete reform of justice redesign of everything from taxation to to functioning of health and environmental institutions that process and that outcome has not necessarily yielded success and it's a super long process that will inevitably take decades so the extent to which the nation building approach is the right way to building peace is under question that is not to say that strong functioning states aren't essential to maintaining states peace and stability and human rights absolutely the focus is more on should the job of the peacekeeping or an international intervention be on building state institutions or on looking at other aspects of the community and in particular the extent to which trust exists between state and societies and communities i give you an example from my time in Afghanistan the world bank was running a massive financial ministry of finance support overhaul to build a financial ministries that was a huge undertaking that began at the central level to get a ministry of finance functioning and start a budgetary process working but in the course of that process when you would say to the bank officials what does that mean for a local community to have any budgetary budgets coming for any local civil service functions any time in the next three to five years they would say no we're not ready yet it'll come but it'll take some time but if you're in a peacekeeping context and in a context of fragile stability is that sufficient to to engage and to create the basis for a recovery and for a sustainable peace it's one of the questions we're looking at in central african republic right now so if we were to look at a new and a slightly different peace building approach one i think of the key issues would be that we have a little bit more focus on the local level and on the sub-national of building community engagement building confidence of communities and building trust between communities and central state representatives and that's i think a critical role for UN peacekeepers not just because they're often out in the field offices where nobody else is and where few development actors are present and certainly no embassies and certainly no international financial institutions but it's also a critical component of part of the efforts that we have to engage with the community as much for our own safety and security as elsewhere so whether and how we might look at more local community incentives and community rebuilding is i think going to be a big question and it's going to be a sensitive question because it's at the heart of states and state sovereignty and state institutions and for example when we engage now in central african republic with community building initiatives and community engagements initiatives that has some sensitivity for the states which would like to sort of see an immediate establishment of of its institutions and focus so that's one key issue the second i think focus that we're going to have to look at is a whole new way of working with development and humanitarian partners now the UN for the last two decades has been talking about integration between development human rights and humanitarian nato has a comprehensive approach the EU has its comprehensive approaches to to crisis management too but i wonder and i would just put it out there whether we have really advanced significantly on those efforts every national country still has its siloed pools for financing we still have our siloed programmatic activities the development budget doesn't mix with the security budget the political budget so we're very much still funding and programming and engaging these as entirely separate functions and while much of the focus of the efforts of UN peacekeeping to work better with development and human humanitarian human rights actors for the last 10 years has progressed it's been internally UN focused whereas if you look at the amount of money that comes into a country in a post conflict 80 percent of it 85 percent of it goes outside the UN so in other words even if we have perfect coordination with all our UN partners the real money is coming from outside actors the EU the world bank development banks and bilateral donors so that really gets at the issue of how can then the UN really and UN peacekeeping really work in a much more strategic and operational way with other actors and i'm highlighting in particular the world bank the european union and key donors at the level of programming and at the level of activities and finally i would flag that a newer area of peacekeeping that we're going to have to look at is having a leaner and more effective peacekeeping mandate should not mean that it's therefore a lean military component but that we look at the leanness as an ability to think about critical peacebuilding tasks and equip ourselves to to deliver on them i raise all this because i think Ireland's particularly well placed to drive some of these issues of the new peacebuilding tasks in a divided world first you've been amongst the most supportive of this comprehensive effort and at the nexus between development and security but second you've also been a driving force between the EU and the UN and driving some of that cooperation in crisis management so looking forward to a moment that is potentially a moment of crisis for the EU with brexit with a lot of discussions about the future of european security and defence and looking to questions about the future of UN peacekeeping i wonder if it's not a moment for countries like Ireland to really come in behind helping to define a new approach to peacebuilding that recognizes the challenges and the very real challenges of building peace in conflict and after conflict but avoids the tendency to make that simply understood as a military task


Hello, good morning and welcome to Mindfulness Challenge day 64. Today is about your mind and creating this beautiful ocean meditation. Join me in a few moments. Welcome to day 64 of the coronavirus mindfulness challenge. I hope you're well. This week's been a very busy and full week and a lot of fronts with my work that I do with spiritualism and spirituality and of course my work in and around the house. So today I wanted to do something where we could just relax. It's been a busy week. It's a Friday. So I wanted to understand again that mindfulness and in particular meditation is a fantastic way to get into a stillness within the body that allows you to relax. It allows you to take away some of the anxiety or some of the issues or stresses that you may have. And we've been doing it now for a long time in 64 days. And it's interesting to think about every day thinking about how we, what content I can bring, how I can try and keep it fresh and try and keep it moving. You know, I'll be honest. It is difficult. You ask anybody to produce content for 64 days on the spin. It can get difficult. But the easy part of this is just being able to connect in and see where we go in today and I get driven and guided to take certain aspects. And today is about you and it's about relaxation and it's about overcoming certain aspects of anxiety or if you're feeling slightly stressed at the moment or slightly emotional and we're going to take you into with a meditation into a very deep place of stillness just like the depths of the ocean and this is an ocean meditation. And we can create the separation between our thoughts and the actual situation. Somebody said to me yesterday, you know, I thought thoughts were good for you.  There's a difference between emotional anxiety, fear and those type of thoughts, the emotional thoughts and actually your thoughts where you're trying to help yourself to design setting or build setting or work on setting or create something. And we still get those emotional thoughts within those creations. So for instance, you know, if I'm thinking about, you know, what am I going to do on my webpage today? What am I going to do on mindfulness today? What am I going to do? What am I going to do? Oh, I can't think of anything.  I can't be bothered. Why am I always like this? This is always me. And you know what? Yesterday I had an argument with a wife and before you knew it, I knew it was me because and you just gone. And that's because you've allowed your thoughts to rule your thinking. And you can sit and think all day long, but as moment those emotional thoughts or sometimes irrational thoughts or unbalanced thoughts come into your mind, that's when you hold them up and you step aside from them and you give them no attachment and you just have this beautiful breath of loving kindness. And you know, that's probably answering the question that somebody asked yesterday. So we're going to get straight into it anyway. We're going to go into this, your mind, experiencing your mind like an ocean. It's a beautiful meditation. But I'm going to put a picture up now, but I don't want you to close your eyes. Okay. So what I want you to do now is start by taking a moment just to relax your body, but keep your eyes open and soften any unnecessary tension in your bellies or your shoulder and find a posture that feels both relaxed and alert, but still keep your eyes open. I have my patio doors open here in the UK, so you may be hearing noises outside in particular birds, but if you rest your hands in an easy and effortless way just by your sides and with your eyes open, just take a few moments to scan your awareness through the sensations of your body and wherever possible soften and release obvious areas of physical tension.  And as I said, soften and release and release any obvious areas of physical tension. Keep your eyes open and now focus on the middle of the room wherever you are and you focus in on this room and so you can let your awareness travel across the room from where you sit it. If you're lying down, you can let your attention go towards the ceiling and notice that how you can let your attention come back to the centre of the room and see now if you can bring your attention closer to about book reading distance as if you're reading a book in your hands so clearly that you can determine where your attention goes.  For some people, it's the sensation of the air in their nostrils and while they gentle feeling coming in and out as the air presses in and out of your nostrils. For others, the natural fear for the breath is in the chest with the rising and falling of the chest with each breath in and out. And for beginners, most people feel the breath most naturally in the belly feeling the diaphragm underneath the lungs pulling air into the lungs and expanding your belly as you breathe in and then when the air is released from the lungs as you actually breathe out, the belly moves inward sensing the abdomen movements in and out. So if you can just let your awareness ride the wave of your breath wherever you feel it most naturally your nostrils, your chest, your abdomen movement or for some people it's even just the whole body breathing whatever comes naturally for you and let's just let your attention ride let the attention ride the waving the wave of your breathing and that just sense in your breath in and out may you also sense that your mind is as vast as the ocean we're deep in the ocean beneath the surface it's calm and it's clear and from that deep place in the ocean you can look upward towards the surface no matter what's going on in your life no matter what those conditions are deep in the ocean it's calm and clear and just sensing your breath allows you to access the depth and stillness of your mind as the vast option where from this deep peaceful place you can look upward at the waves at the surface the brain waves that are thoughts and emotions and conditions of your mind can you notice all of these fleeting thoughts and emotions they're just there at the surface that come and go pretty quickly in and out of your awareness each day like waves at the top of the ocean and sensing your breath bringing you back to this peaceful place feeling the profound depth of your mind when a thought comes in or a feeling or memory or sensation then warmly and calmly take note of that mental activity and redirect your attention back to your breath and let your attention return to the breath to this depth of your mind where you can sense and observe the activities of your mind as just activities and not to the totality of who you are see if you can just let yourself enjoy the deep tranquility that comes from just sense in the breath knowing that you're just focusing your mind on your breathing brings you to this deep place of calm and clarity maybe time you're breathing you feel these beautiful waves of healing energy just washing over you relaxing you calming you taking away any of the residual tension or stress that may have been built up of your day of your week over the month and with every breath in and breath out you just let it wash away calming methodically loving knowing that each breath is like a wave of love is like a wave of optimism is like a wave of healing when you breathe in you just see these beautiful waves just washing all over you and when you breathe out you see them taking any pain any stress or strains breathing it in the wave washes you again and it's just beautiful and we know now if we just drop down from the surface again into the beautiful depth and tranquility of this ocean where you feel so natural so beautiful so pure and take a deep breath in just feel that beautiful oxygenated energy just flowing through your body you are so calm in this very special space and I'd like you now just to very slowly take a deep breath in and just start to bring your awareness back to the room but bring the same quality of kind awareness to the rest of your day that you're feeling now and feeling relaxed in your body in your mind and in your soul and slowly open your eyes I hope that was relaxing for you on this beautiful Friday it's a bank holiday weekend here so we can't go out in Wales we're locked down England has started to lift some of its restrictions but we're locked down for the bank holiday weekend so it's going to be self-isolation for me and the family here with the dog reg and hopefully if the weather keeps being nice as it has been was beautiful yesterday got a bit of a suntan and we can enjoy some quality family time in the garden which would be lovely have a wonderful Friday be loving give love good morning junior and I love you take care look after yourself but just today just have a day off a bit just relax a bit if you can chill out you know it's been a tough couple of months and today you just need that relaxation calm beautiful might do another meditation myself I think suit them out on day 65 of the coronavirus mindfulness challenge have a wonderful day take care bye bye


My name is Anton McDonnell, I'm a third year genetics and cell biology student. My name is Jason Bolton and I'm a third year analytical science. I'm running for this position because I'm really already heavily involved in the SU, such as being a class rep, CRC, going to USI, Congress, and I already help the current Science and Health Faculty or even with a number of things throughout the year, so I'm really passionate about this position. I was chairperson of Science and Health and New Society this year. I was set up based towards the Science and Health students, so all the Science and Nursing students. And I got to meet a lot of people and find out what they want from the faculty and I think I am the best person for the role. I'm very approachable and experienced because of the society being the chairperson and I really just want to represent the faculty. I feel my determination and also my presence and experience with the SU and knowing a large population in the Science and Health Faculty is obviously a big part because I get to get everyone's opinions and a feel for what people want. What was set me apart from Anton? I don't have those glorious white teeth. I'm trying to think. What sets me apart, I think I am very approachable. I've talked to a lot of people in the faculty about what they want from Science and Health Faculty Rep and I think a lot of people would be comfortable coming to meet if they had any problems or if they just wanted to discuss something and I think that's what sets me apart. I've always been a leader. I've captained my country and my county and I'm willing to take on anything, any task. No task is too big or too small and I'm willing to deliver results that people want to see. I've been Class Rep and as I said multiple times. I've had Chairperson of Science and Health so I've got a lot of experience through that.