Okay, welcome everyone to this session, which is focused on biofuels, and so terrific. Just in the nick of time, right? Okay, our first speaker up is Robert Kosak, who is the Founder and Board Member of Advanced Biofuels USA, and you can speak from either there or the podium, okay? This is where I can duck when you start throwing shoes or something. See, we didn't have the crowd here we had for previous speakers, which I think kind of reflects the whole problem of biofuels right now, that we don't seem to be a part of all the above discussion. I just like to have a speech written here, and I'm not sure if I'm going to give what I wrote, but just like to make a few comments that probably going to be, I know everybody wants to be in a positive mood today, and we're working together, but I would like to take sort of a different approach, where I think it's a more realistic approach. And as I said, the topic here was all the above is not the solution. And what I'd like to argue, well, let's start at the beginning. At first I'd like to say it doesn't surprise me that we have an administration that now has come up with the all the above, so-called all the above policy. I think we've forgotten why we were doing renewable fuels, why there was, why we were doing renewable, not alternative, not clean, not green, why were we doing renewables? And it's something called climate change. Remember greenhouse gases is as pointed out this morning by one of the representatives, we've hit a record level of CO2 in the atmosphere that hasn't been seen for Lord knows, I think it's over 60 million years. So that's what we're here about, but then you look at what's been going on in this country, the polling. In 2007, a Harris poll found that 71% of Americans thought that human activity, burning of fossil fuel, contributed to climate change. By 2009, the figure dropped to 51%. In 2011, in the same polling, only 44% of Americans thought that the burning of fossil fuels contributed to climate change. So it doesn't really surprise me that we have an administration that has come up with an energy policy that's called all of the above. Now what is all of the above policy is? Well, let's look at it. All of the above is not a policy at all. What all the above is, it's an acceptance of the energy status quo. So when we say all of the above, it means natural gas. It means deep drilling oil. It means fracking natural gas. It means so-called clean coal. Is there a place for biofuels in there? Well, we certainly hope so. But given the fact that, as I said, it's acceptance of the energy status quo, it means it favors the parties that are at or behind the status quo. And if you think about how much money is involved in the energy market, those are the people that are going to try to keep the status quo the way we are. So what is the energy status quo? Still, you hear all this great things about domestic fuel. Right now, 51% of our oil is still imported. We got that 51%, not 25%, not 10%. 51% of our oil is still imported into this country. That's what the status quo means. The status quo means a continuation of fracking to produce natural gases. So I could go on and talk about some of the good things. I hope I have a minute or two to talk about it. But I think we all have to look at ourselves and ask, why did this happen? Why did we allow a policy called all of the above? And how do we allow terms such as clean, green, sustainable, replace the reality that we need, which is renewable? And maybe we all have to look at ourselves and say, how did we let this happen? Those of us that are in policy positions, people consider themselves virus people that are on staff up here on the hill. How did this happen? Well, maybe we kind of lost our way. Maybe we thought that by growing vegetables in our backyard and driving a car that has batteries and engines that are made out of rare earth elements that are produced by people in places that quite truthfully do not follow environmental regulations or human rights regulations. Maybe we thought that was enough that if we just do those things for ourselves, maybe that was enough. And therefore, all of the above is fine because we don't want to get into fights over things that there are ways to go. So I'm just asking everybody should look at themselves and think about what can we do tomorrow to go to a real renewable thing. Just a couple things I want to point out, interesting things that's happening in renewable fuels associated with that. Say about 10, 15 years ago, everybody thought the internal combustion engine was dead and gone. It's reached the end of its life cycle. It's over 100 years old. We can't get any more efficient. What's been happening in the development of internal combustion engine that last 10 or 15 years is remarkable. The engines are getting smaller, more efficient, lighter, better mileage.  So these are the things that should be embraced, from my point of view. We were at a car race last weekend, two weekends ago in Detroit. Indy car races, cars that race at Indy. Those run on E85. These are the most powerful, fastest race cars in the world, and they chose E85 for its power. Sports car races, you go to American Le Mans, you go to Baltimore and Labor Day, you'll see them race the Ferraris, the Corvettes, the Porsches. They all went to E85 for power. And if you're looking at what's going on now, EPA has recently proposed in Tier 3 to allow up to E30 as a new certification fuel. And the reason that they're proposing this is that the car manufacturers have said, we need more octane. We need more power out of the fuel. So EPA is agreeing, and say, you're agreeing to a point. And saying, yeah, if you're going to meet the fuel economy standards of 2022, you're going to have to use bio ethanol or other bio components like that. So I think as we go forward, I think we have to scrap all of the above. What we have to do is to look at each sector. And I know a lot of you here from the electrical sector and not so much from the transportation sector. But I would say, forget all the above. Let's look at each system, be it electrical production, be it manufacturing, be it transportation. Let's look at the most efficient way to get rid of all the greenhouse gases as fast as we can. Not this incremental stuff of 3% per year, 5% per year, or waiting until the East Coast gets flooded. If we're really serious about this, if we really believe that climate change is the reason that we're doing this, as well as reducing imports for security reasons. If we really believe in that, then let's do it. Let's go all out. Let's find the best pathways. Now, right now, a lot of these pathways have major roadblocks in it. People familiar with cellulosic ethanol have heard something called about biomass recalcitrance. Well, it's there. It's a roadblock, but it can be overcome with the right science, if there's the funding, if there are universities and businesses in this country allowed to do it. And I mean, you've heard people call for an Apollo program or a Manhattan Project program. And I would have to say that if we're really in favor of reducing it, we just can't let all of the above status quo continue. If we're serious, let's do it like we did in Apollo. Let's do it like it was done in the Manhattan Project. I mean, like they said, this show has been going on for 16 years. Yes, that's good, but it shouldn't. It shouldn't have happened. It should have been dealt with already. You know, the Manhattan Project lasted, what, three, four years? The Apollo Project lasted eight. I think we can do better. Thanks. Thank you. And I think the exciting thing is in terms of hearing about all the solutions and knowing that they really are absolutely before us and that we're seeing them demonstrated today. We're now going to hear from Ezra Finken, who is the Director of Policy and External Relations with the Diesel Technology Forum. Thank you. Can everyone up? There we go. Yes, thank you. I'm Ezra Finken with the Diesel Technology Forum. Our membership represents companies that manufacture diesel engine vehicles and equipment. You're probably wondering why is diesel here an energy efficiency renewable energy meeting. But essentially, diesel is the most efficient power train out there. Diesel fuel has the highest energy content of any transportation fuel. In fact, petroleum-based diesel and bio-based diesel have a higher energy content to gasoline. Gasoline is number three on the list. And petroleum and bio are one and two. The diesel engine is one of the most efficient ways of transferring that energy content into power. In fact, that's why you see diesel powering all sorts of heavy-duty conveyances from long-haul trucks, buses, ferries, ambulances, school buses, you name it. Diesel is ubiquitous. This isn't gone unnoticed by all sorts of government folks who study the matter. In fact, the National Petroleum Council last summer, in a report to both the president and the secretary of energy concluded that in the foreseeable future, diesel will be the power train of choice in the heavy-duty world, given its ability to transfer the energy content of fuel into power. The inherent efficiency of the diesel engine hasn't gone unnoticed by consumers either. It's ubiquitous in the heavy-duty world, and it's growing in popularity in the light-duty sector as well. You see a lot of diesel cars on the road today, given their presence from some years ago, and you're going to see a lot more in the future. Consumers that are looking to purchase a car in the next two years and have made up their mind to purchase a diesel have done so overwhelmingly because they recognize the fuel efficiency of the diesel power train. In fact, if you go to fueleconomy.gov and you look at a diesel-powered car or light-duty truck and you compare that to its gasoline equivalent, depending on the make and model, you'll notice that it's about 20% to 40% increase in fuel economy. So consumers are turning on to the diesel power train in the light-duty market as well. Diesel is also clean, given the advent of ultra-low sulfur diesel in the 2006, 2007 time frame. New engine and after-treatment technologies were able to be developed and marketed that essentially eliminated the criteria pollutants from diesel engines. So what does that mean? So for example, relative to a truck manufactured in 1988, clean diesel truck that meets 2007 and now the 2010 engine standards for heavy-duty trucks, those trucks exhibit a 98% reduction in particulate matter and a 98% reduction in certain oxides of nitrogen, which is a smog-forming pollutant. And how do you get that? It's the advent of the low sulfur diesel fuel allowing for certain engine technologies like exhaust gas recovery that basically recirculates some of the unburned fuel back into the engine for combustion. And other really interesting technologies, diesel particulate filters that essentially scrub the particulate matter from the exhaust. And other technologies like selective catalyst reduction that essentially injects a little bit of ammonia in the exhaust fluid to turn the nitrogen dioxide into just raw nitrogen inerts around us and water. So I don't want to get into those technologies, but we have a booth here. And if you're interested, please feel free to stop by our booth and we'll tell you about all those cool technologies that are around. Also, the catch here with renewables is all of our members manufacture engines and equipment that are capable of running on biodiesel. I don't want to steal ants thunder there. But just a quick note there, biodiesel is considered an advanced biodiesel, has a capability of reducing greenhouse gas emissions by at least 50%. And all of our members manufacture equipment that is capable of running on certain blends of biodiesel. Typically in the heavy duty, the big long haul trucks, the heavy duty sector, most manufacturers are capable of that equipment is capable of running on a blend of about 20% biodiesel or B20. In the light duty car segment and light duty truck segment, typically they're approved to run on a blend of 5% or B5. In fact, some manufacturers are approving some cars and light trucks to run on a B20 blend. So diesel is clean, renewable, and very efficient. In fact, if you look at what's happening in Europe, you can definitely see the nexus between all three of that. The car segment in Europe has one of the strictest emission standards for both criteria pollutants and greenhouse gas or carbon reductions. And those have been in place for some years now. And as those standards get stricter and stricter and stricter, the share of the car segment, the diesel share of the car segment keeps going up because manufacturers can realize they can meet these strict emission reduction requirements by refining the diesel powertrain to essentially eliminate a lot of the criteria pollutants and meet some of these greenhouse gas or carbon requirements. I think it's really important to know that as we look at everything across every economic sector, improving the efficiency of everything that we do is critical if we're going to be able to replace fossil fuels in terms of the main energy resource used in the country. We simply must improve our efficiency overall. And diesel is looking at clean diesel and the whole world biodiesel is an important way to accomplish that in the transport sector. So we're now going to turn to Dr. Robert Doe. Is that correct? Who's the president and CEO of Selena Fuels Corporation. And this is a company that has done some very, very interesting projects. Dr. Doe. Thank you very much for the opportunity to speak today. I'm going to speak a little bit different about the certain part of the transportation that most people don't think about. And because a lot of people when they talk about transportation, we think of cars. And we brought up a lot of solutions to increase the mileage and looking at hybrid and electric technology. But the partners of ours, the airlines, which is the key large transport industries, which all of us use a lot, have different problems. And they would be here. They have a chance. They would present this that they can't go hybrid and they can't go electric. So they're going to need liquid fuels for many, many years, even if they all eventually buy a Dreamliner, which going to give them better safety. They will need jet fuel. And the current challenge in biofuel is that we make ethanol, the first generation of fuel. We make renewable diesel. But these are not stable. I mean, they cannot function in a jet engine. You're flying at 50,000. You look at your signal that says minus 50 degrees outside. At minus 50, all this fuel will be frozen. It requires specific kind of fuel that are able for you to fly at that time a kerosene, or what are called jet A1. So that's problem number one. Problem number two, the European Union and all the emissions issues of CO2. We talk about climate change. They have implemented carbon tax on jet fuel, as you heard. Any plane that has to fly in and out of Europe has to pay carbon tax. And you look at an airline, like our airline partner, like British Airways, they burn a billion gallon of jet fuel a year just at Heathrow. And that's 18 million tons of CO2. They have to pay $300,000, I mean, million dollars a year in carbon tax. Well, where does that money goes to you? You're paying the carbon tax. So there is a legislation issue right now. And now every airline in the world is making a commitment through Ayata to reduce their carbon footprint. By 2020, which is only eight, seven years from now, they have to be carbon neutral. In an industry that grows 5% a year, or 10% a year in China, that's a massive amount of jet fuel to go carbon neutral. And they can't go carbon neutral except for bio jet fuel. And suddenly, within the last three to four years, the largest market demand for renewable bio fuel are the airlines. They have a legislative driven process with the carbon tax. They have a demand for a greener market from all of us. We want to decrease our carbon footprint. And thirdly, it's the price of oil. 50% of the costs of airlines right now are their jet fuel costs. And airlines are going bankrupt because of it. A barrel of jet fuel for your information is $130 a barrel, $30 more than crude oil. So you think of crude oil at $100, jet fuel is $130. So and that's going to continue to go up. We all know that oil is not going to go down in pricing. So now we have the problems. And the airlines are facing these massive problems. Costs, volatility, oil price, and it's all affecting us. And they want bio jet fuel. And we can't make bio jet fuel from growing corns anymore, or we have to grow to the next generation. And the solution, and you look at what the airlines are doing, you see Delta last year, one of the largest airlines in the US, they went out and bought refinery. I mean, it's unheard of that you have an airline that goes out and go into the oil business to refine oil. But why they need to have control of their source of bio jet? Well, jet, because they're just a regular refinery. They don't go for a bio greener product. So what are the other airlines are doing? Well, the other airlines came to a solution provider, which is Solena. And now we are partnering with all the largest airlines in Europe, British Airways, Lufthansa, Scandinavian Airlines, as well as airline in the US. So we're working with American Airlines, United Airlines, FedEx, JetBlue, in order to develop and build what we call an integrated bio jet fuel facility utilizing a very well known technology called the Fisher-Tropes technology. We have a stand out there. You can come and see how the technology work a little bit more detail. But it's a technology that's been developed in the market for 30, 40 years during World War II, where coal is taken to gasify it into synthetic gas. And then synthetic gas would pressurize it and liquefy it into kerosene. The Germans are doing it in World War II. The South Africans are doing it now with coal because they have no oil resources. So they are making jets. So any airline that flies into South Africa flying out with this product. It's a product that's well demonstrated at work at minus 50 degrees. It meets all the standards. And what we have done is we take that same process, but integrate it with a process that uses high temperature plasma gasification that we can take renewable source of carbon, which is waste product. So household waste, commercial waste, or agricultural waste, or forestry waste. And then we gasify it into synthetic gas. And then from there, we make bio jet fuel, which is chemically equivalent to jet fuel. And under that process, we're rolling out our projects. Our first flagship project is in London. And it will make 3,000 barrels a day. In the parlance of refinery, it's very small. But it's a half a billion dollar project. And British Airways partner with us and would be the first commercial bio jet fuel plant in the world. After that, we're building it in Berlin for Lufthansa. We're working with FedEx to build one in Indianapolis, with American Airlines and United to build it in California. And what we hope is to get the policy in place with the government so we can provide our US government the capacity to buy bio jet fuel. The key to the solution that we have here is feedstock. We are using waste feedstock. So therefore, it's a cheap feedstock. Feedstock makes up 85% of the cost of bio fuel. So if you grow corn, the cost of corn is going to go up. It's because ethanol is very expensive. So the US has to put subsidies for ethanol because the cost of the feedstock. By utilizing a waste feedstock, we get it for free. And most of the time, we get paid to take it. And that give us a huge competitive edge would allow us to make bio jet at a lower price in oil. Because oil is continued to go up because of the cartel, whereby we can have a feedstock sources are stable. And it gives the airline the stability and less volatility in their hedging pricing of oil. So that's what we hope to roll out into the jet fuel market. I hope that you would learn more and talk to your policymaker about developing and policies in place to support it. Because this technology is rolling out on the commercial side. But as you know, the US government and the DOD is continuing to buy fuel at $30 a gallon. And there's to be a gap. And the policy change will come from you who's going to influence your Congress and your members about understanding the need for bio jet fuel.  Come and ask us for more questions. Thank you very much. Thank you. And I think that it's important to also remember that there are a lot of different kinds of feedstocks and a lot of different kinds of fuels that are appropriate in terms of different applications. Because again, there isn't just one solution for everything. And indeed, one of the great wonders is that there are so many different kinds of renewable resources in applications that can fit all of the different needs that we have in our very complex economy. So we're now going to turn to Ann Steckel, who is the Vice President of Federal Affairs with the National Biodiesel Board. Thanks, Carol. It's great to be here with everyone today. As Carol said, I'm Ann Steckel with the National Biodiesel Board. And for those of you that don't know, the National Biodiesel Board is the trade association that represents the biodiesel industry. The biodiesel industry has about 200 plants in just about every state in the country. We use a variety of feedstocks to make up biodiesel. Biodiesel is a diesel replacement and also an enhancement. We use recycled restaurant grease. We use soybean oil. We use canola oil. We use camelina oil. We can use algae. We use animal fats. So we really are able to take a lot of these waste products, treat them under strict ASTM technical standards, and turn them into a fuel. So this has been a real value added benefit for our industry. We are, as Asra said, an advanced biofuel, which means we reduce greenhouse gas emissions by at least 50%. And depending on which feedstock we use, we can reduce greenhouse gas emissions compared to petroleum by up to 87%. And EPA went through, when they put in the renewable fuel standard into place, designating which fuels were qualified as which. And so EPA has designated us as an advanced biofuel. As Asra said, there's many benefits to biodiesel. And certainly greenhouse gas emissions is one of them. But obviously having a variety of feedstocks is another one of those. Clearly lessening our dependence on foreign oil is clearly one of the foremost foundations for the benefit of our industry. As I said, we have plants pretty much all across the country. All of our plants are optimized to run on a variety of feedstocks depending on which feedstocks are less expensive. And we're developing new feedstock technology as we speak right now. So clearly diversification for our industry is a very important thing. As Asra also mentioned, one issue that we don't have that perhaps other fuels have is that we don't have any issues with running on different kinds of engines. Most major engine manufacturers in the US have warrantied their engines up to a 20% blend of biodiesel. So it's commonly seen across the United States that if you use diesel, you can put up to a 5% blend of biodiesel in that. And it is even labeled on the pumps. So you may be using biodiesel if you're driving a diesel engine and you don't even know it. So we're certainly a product that's been around for a number of years and continue to grow at a pretty steady pace. Last year, we produced about a billion gallons of diesel. And while we're very proud of this number, and it was a huge milestone for our industry, you have to remember that we're blending it into a 60 billion gallon diesel pool. So we're still a very small part of the diesel pool. But we're a very growing industry. We're growing at a very sustainable rate. The renewable fuel standard has been very beneficial to our industry. The renewable fuel standard for diesel was put into place in 2010. So that was really the first year that we saw biodiesel start to increase its volume level significantly through the renewable fuel standard. Again, we're at a billion gallons last year. We are looking to be at at least 1.28 billion gallons this year, but because production has been so good, we're looking to hit around 1.6 billion gallons. Again, a milestone for our industry and something that we're very excited about. So as you guys talk to folks on Capitol Hill or as you're around visiting members of Congress or certainly visiting the expo, please stop by our booth. Mention biodiesel. It's an issue that we're very proud of. We have a website, it's nbb.org. Please feel free to visit that for more information and we're happy to provide that to you. So in addition to the renewable fuel standard, our industry has a dollar tax credit. It's a biodiesel incentive. And you were talking about Biojet. Biojet actually qualifies for that dollar tax credit as well, so biodiesel, renewable diesel, and Biojet all qualify for a dollar tax incentive, which has really been very helpful for our industry as we continue to grow out our transportation sector. It certainly helped with blending facilities, terminal expansion and things like that. It's allowed some of our plants that have been very small to be able to grow in a really sustainable way. So the tax incentive has really been, in terms of federal policy, very key for us. So as you talk to folks, please keep that in mind as well. Folks talk a lot about tax reform, what's going to happen with tax extenders. We'll have to see how that road goes. But for our industry, it's been very successful. Trying to keep it concise. If you guys have questions later, feel free to ask, happy to answer. Thank you. And rounding out this panel discussion is Steve Wilburn, who is the president and CEO of Firm Green Inc. To talk about yet another kind of biofuel. Good afternoon. I'm the president of Commune Online and I think we just spoke yesterday. So I'm the business development director for Firm Green Inc. We are a few for each company that specializes in biofueling projects. We are right now, my name is Enrique Ruiz and I'm the business development director and I live in Puerto Rico. Small Island that fills a lot of the effects from greenhouse gases and rising sea levels. You see a lot of places in Puerto Rico now that usually have beautiful beaches having half of the coastline that they used to have. So definitely very near to me all this theme of sustainability and renewable energy. The fuel that we deal with is biogas. Biogas being a source that is all around the world. We see it on the landfills where waste goes but also in places like Europe with an early digestion where it's a natural product that comes from the composition of organic materials. One of the things that I concentrate in business development director and being charged or focused on the part of project development is that renewable energy is a dream that we all have had for a long time but sometimes the dream has to the wall with the reality and one of the things that I try to talk to all the people all the time and I like the title of the conference is that renewable has to be sustainable in order to be effective. There's a lot of renewable energy projects and alternatives out there that you see and great ideas, great rhythms but when they are faced with reality they're not sustainable and sustainable has to be part of the equation. One of the things that I like from some of the panelists that I heard here like Dr. Doe is that definitely looking at alternatives where you can bring a problem that uses some material like waste that today goes to landfill or goes to some worse places like riverbeds can be used to be transformed into a product that's where I think the future of this industry is and one of the projects that are a flagship project right now we're taking the landfill gas from the largest landfill in Brazil in Rio de Janeiro this landfill was subject to a documentary a couple of years back called Waste Land where a lot of people leave off that landfill just picking up trash and stuff to make our livelihood we're taking that landfill now and modernizing a lot of their operation and we're taking the methane that was going up in the air from that landfill and actually doing a lot of harm not only to the globe in general but the people that were leaving off the landfill and we're taking that landfill gas we're cleaning it up but we're extracting the methane and we're sending that via pipeline for a petro gas refinery for them to substitute some of the fuels that they use in the refinery operations so that's one of the I would say beautiful things about the project is that some people never saw the marriage of the renewable or biofuel guys with refineries because those are the traditional oil and fuel poles in this project we're taking right now going online it's the largest landfill gas reclamation project just for reference typical landfill gas projects flow about 1,000 to a couple thousand cubic feet per meter of gas we're taking 12,000 cubic feet per meter of gas and making a renewable biomethane that is being going to be used on the refinery the beautiful thing about this fuel is that it has applications of the energy sector but also on the transportation sector as well and that gives a broad base of use I was never a big fan of waste to energy I have been in the waste business also for a long time and I also I saw the energy part being kind of a limited solution to the problem with the fuels we see transportation we see aviation we have a very broad market and a very broad effect that we can have displacing dirtier fuels but also enhancing the livelihood of the people that uses this product this type of product in their cars in the transportation public transportation and not only that we're taking something that was going today in the air we're creating some of the maintenance 21% 21 times sorry more both in greenhouse gas and CO2 so we're taking something that was creating the greenhouse gas effect and now taking it to a market we're displacing some dirtier fuels and also one of the vehicles that we use at one time in one of our projects was a fuel fuel vehicle that run on biodiesel with CNG so it could run on both so that's one of the beautiful things about the biofuels market is that everybody thinks about renewable energy and they stay with solar, wind and with the light switch on electricity but the renewable world right now we are part of it the biofuels, advanced fuels are there the key for our market, for our industry is the worst sustainable and growing corn for ethanol and I hope I'm not upsetting anybody that's not sustainable it's the same in some areas with biodiesel I like when they do the reclamation of the oils but in some cases they went overboard and they did the found oil in certain areas were not sustainable so sustainability where the growth of this industry is important because those projects that have not been sustainable usually have very nice curve that they have a big bang because they are subsidized, something like that but they fall as quick as they went up so sustainability is the one that gives you the smooth curve where you can grow an industry grow a market and actually make a mark for years to come and that's I think part of what everybody here has been talking about is making a mark going in the renewable market going in a sustainable way where we can grow and I invite you to visit us in Booth that we have here in the second floor there you can learn a little bit more about our project really, Janeiro and like I said it's a beautiful project we're taking landfill gas and making it into a biofuel that will do a lot of good and hopefully all the projects of that magnitude will come online we have some other projects right now I think the future with a bio mandate is very bright and we hope to be a very big part thank you very much that I had forgotten to write down your name after you told me this story so anyway, I'm glad that you were all here and we have a couple minutes if anybody's got any questions any quick, okay go ahead Marks of renewable energy consulting from the Department of Energy you've had a flyer of the members this week regarding to one of the issues of the future of the renewable fuel standard 2 and which is under threat right now in the House and the Senate can you please tell us a little bit about what the reaction your members have gotten from members of Congress sure, happy to touch on that as you said we did have a fly in this week we had over 100 members from all across the country come and visit their members of Congress to talk about biodiesel and how biodiesel has been a real success success story for the renewable fuel standard as I said we produced over a billion gallons last year and so this this flying is really an opportunity for our members to touch base with their members of Congress and folks in the administration to talk about while there may be other issues going on with the renewable fuel standard overall it is serving the intention that Congress put in and certainly biodiesel is a big part of why that's happening biodiesel is filled up over eighty five percent of the advanced bucket of the renewable fuel standard so we have certainly met and exceeded all of our goals that were qualified under the renewable fuel standard clearly we support over fifty thousand jobs so this has been really good for for the economy and obviously energy diversity has been a real positive aspect as well so this off this fly in was really just an opportunity for folks to talk to their members of Congress clearly Congress is looking at and may potentially be renewing revamping or opening up potentially the renewable fuel standard so we just wanted to talk about why we think it's it's going just fine okay any other questions or comments okay well thank you very very much and really appreciate your all being here and so make sure that you visit everybody over in the expo and we will start our next panel in just a couple minutes thank you


So in closing here, we have just like three slides and then I'll, I'll let you go. Don't worry. I know it's beer o'clock. I know it's beer o'clock in Amsterdam right now. Yeah, no less. So here we go. Should have my slides up. So one thing that we do want to announce is upcoming Argo US, ArgoCon US is coming. We're finalizing dates. It's likely going to be September in the Bay Area. So if you have a chance to come to that, obviously would be great to have you. Also to find there are tons of you didn't get your thirst quenched by all of the Argo content flying at your face all day. There are so many more Argo talks happening over the next three days. Just go to sketch, search Argo. There's a fantastic talk tomorrow with, uh, Kostas is going to be speaking again with Ilya on scaling multi-tenancy with Vcluster. You've got operating multi-tenancy service mesh with Argo CD from solo IO. I'm going to be speaking Thursday injecting some chaos engineering with Argo CD. So be sure to catch those talks because Argo just keeps on coming. And then obviously we want you to get involved. So you can join Argo contributors on CNCF Slack. That's a great place to get started. I saw a lot of people today were asking questions. Hey, I want this feature. I want that feature. Guys, I got to tell you, if you go to our issues, there is no shortage of I've got a great idea, but there is a shortage of I've got some hands willing to implement these great ideas. So we'd love to have you contributing. Join the contributors channel. Um, and we also do contributors experience meetings every Thursday at five 15 p.m. in this time zone. And so that's a great place. If you're opening an issue, you're getting ready to open issue. Maybe you're confused. You're not sure what to do. Join that call. We're super friendly. We go through issues. We answer questions. We discuss the best approaches to how to solve different problems and add new features to Argo. So you'll be great for that. And then we also have a number of special interest groups. So SIG security, SIG marketing, SIG scalability. These are all really exciting special interest groups that you can join. If you want to help plan the next Argo con, you want to join Christian myself, others, then, uh, that we'd love to have you in SIG marketing. If you want to be helping out with some of the scalability or just hearing about what's happening with scalability, because there's obviously new features being discussed all the time and we're making pull requests and things of that nature. So please join that. You can find more of those at github.com slash Argo project slash Argo project, uh, Argo project, Argo project. You got it. So get involved. Um, and with that, thank you to everybody from the Argo committee. Thank you to the CNCF. Thanks to all our volunteers, huge amount of effort to make this event happen. And our very first Argo con EU, I think next year, I think Coupe con is going to be the co-located event of Argo con. Great job. Thank you.


If you want to learn how to increase your stamina so you can perform better in games and not get so tired when you play, I'm gonna show you how to do that using a treadmill. Minor detail but very important, you want to make sure that your shoes are tied up nice and tight. You want to double knot your laces so they don't come undone. But most importantly, having a tight shoe that actually fits your foot well is going to improve your foot strike and it's gonna help your running efficiency. Before any workout, especially before running, you want to make sure that you do a good warm-up. It doesn't have to be super long but just make sure that you loosen up your legs. I like to do a little bit of biking and some leg swings because if you do not do this, you're gonna start running and your legs are gonna feel very heavy. So if you're playing in games and your legs feel really heavy right away like within the first 10 minutes, it's probably because you're not doing a proper warm-up. Let's get into the actual running. So what most players do when they want to improve their stamina is they'll go for a 30-minute jog. They'll go on the treadmill, they'll run for 30 minutes at a moderate pace. This is a waste of time. It will not actually help you improve your stamina in real match situations. So what you want to do is you want to challenge yourself.  If you can get yourself into that state and work through that state, that's where you're actually going to improve your stamina. So this is what I do. I only spend 10 minutes on the treadmill, but I'll do this a couple times a week on days that I don't have training or don't have matches. I'll do this just for 10 minutes and it makes a massive difference to your stamina. So I'll just start out walking. First of all, I'll put it on about a 3.0 incline. This is supposed to help reduce some of the problems that come with running on a treadmill as far as knee problems. So put it at about a 3.0 incline. You won't even notice this, but it will help. Then I just start out walking. I started at about a 3. So I'm just walking and each minute I'm going to increase the intensity by one point. So after one minute of walking, I'll move to 4.0, which is about slow jogging. I'll work all the way up to about 11.0 on the treadmill and I'm doing this just in about 10 minutes. So if you want to increase the intensity, start at about a 4.0 and work your way to a 12.0. But I think starting at a 3.0 and going to a 10.0 is a very good place to start. You will find it difficult, especially if you haven't done this before. Now while I'm running, I'm just focusing on good running mechanics. I'm not counting down the seconds on the clock and hoping that it passes faster. I'm just focusing on my breathing and I'm focusing on good running mechanics. Nice arm pump, a little bit of a forward lean. Make sure that you're driving your knees forward.  And really focus on having everything, your body, your legs, your limbs, your arms moving forward rather than going side to side. The cool thing about running on a treadmill is you can really notice how efficient you are with your movement. Is everything traveling forward or are you waving and wobbling side to side? So if you want to improve your stamina, remember you don't want to do something that is easy. Going for a jog for 30 minutes at an easy pace is not going to help you on the field. You need to do something that is challenging. So something like this where I'm gradually increasing my intensity until I hit this point where I feel like giving up, then I push through it a little bit more and then I'll just calm down. I'm getting a lot of benefit from that in a short period of time. So the 10 minutes I spend on the treadmill are more valuable than someone running for an hour at a moderate and easy pace. So take these ideas. If you want to start training on the treadmill, use it for yourself and I guarantee you'll see some improvements to your stamina. I've just created a new training guide. I'm planning to sell it for $20 but today you can get it for free. All you have to do is visit this link and you can download this program instantly.


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hi good morning and welcome to today's products and focus most markets are still hover near all-time high levels the Germany 30 is absolutely smashing this morning going on a little bit higher as it's looking more and more likely that we still will be reached some positive data from Germany as well but some good data of America well depending if you if your interest rate focused or not so we had inflation data yesterday which is a bit higher than expected and we got GDP due today now a GDP figure of around about two two point one the expectation of two point one will deflate the dollar bill slightly anything greater than that I think will add extra credence so we had like durable goods yesterday as well and we had the CPI data that came in slightly higher than expected so we've seen some big moves in the dollar overnight and we'll come back to those in a second but that is kind of interesting to see that the US 30 still begin to flatten out around about this 18,000 level so not really a huge amount of trading opportunity in US 30 today. So looking at the UK 100 looks to be that we're almost getting this new triangle formation or not triangle formation that kind of a new trend line on there so if I just take this point here you can just see the massive steepening of these of these levels I'm interested to see it that managed to hold but 6906 seems to be the potential pivot that was the all-time high that was broken so was resistance now expected to act as potential support I combine that if you look at the tips of these candles there is a lot of reluctance from the US for the UK 100 sorry to break up that that much higher just below 6964 and that's me in play now for a number of sessions and today's candle we're already trying to move that little bit higher so maybe we can get some momentum so Japan 225 the big turnaround we saw in dollar yen has undoubtedly undoubtedly helped Japan to do five had a really strong breakout yesterday but that was also compounded by the fundamentals behind the civil service pension funded Japan switching their metrics for investment from 8% of local equities to 25% big boost for Japan to do five and then you have the dollar yen reversal as US dollar massively strength and so about a hundred hundred points anyway and then on the entire day charge it looks it looks significant I'm surely in the daily charge it's not that bad but the dollar bills have definitely tried to wrestle a bit of control anyway after being a little bit fast last couple days so that gives you an idea what's happened with Japan to do five we move on to dollar yen dollar yen even though we have had this the spike higher on the entire day charts this is a daily interval and certainly it's still kind of hard to get that excited by this FX pair has been flattening out in this way for some time 119 still seems to be the level is going to bounce around for a while crude oil came off five and a half percent yesterday at one point recovered slightly still still down on the day we're up about three quarters of a percent right now crude oil inventories obviously much higher than expected but you do have oil production issues over in Libya I'll be mostly at the Gulf States are absolutely fine there's still a little bit of demand out there there are prices are slightly supported by a reduction in exploration in the North Sea in many other areas as well people are trying to talk up West Texas a little bit but five and a half percent drop yesterday I'm sure that's been a little bit shaky for a number of West Texas traders so longer-term potential supports the remains of 43 29 longer-term potential resistance 54 85 so looking at gold gold probably had a strong reversal yesterday it was looking quite quite bullish there before before the inflation data came out and the US GDP figures when they come if they come good gold is obviously potentially exposed to move to the downside if it comes in greater than 2.1% so we get something like 2.6 I think that'd be significant big moves in a dollar again big moves in gold it comes in as expected or two or less than two then gold will be back back in play and we might have a rechallenge of 1218 we do have a death cross on the moving averages incidentally so from a technical perspective there is a little bit of weight however if you look at this like slow stochastic and the MACD were quite close to having reversal signals on there but they're not yet come to fruition so finishing up with the euro dollar and GBP USD so that dollar move really smashed that he's sending triangle formation that is a proper technical breakout right there real decent move yeah it moves about 250 points and quite a decent other 150 points but that's still a significant significant move you can see it quite clearly there they're in the charts the potential support level and actually if you just go ahead and get drawing tools out there for a second and add that on there you can see your one spot as basically one spot 11 as the next potential support to be aware of on there so if we have a look at GBP USD strong reversal bullish engulfing pattern we stopped pretty much bang on potential support one spot 54 24 pressures on though almost got a golden cross and moving averages other technicals are overbought kind of a flip side to what we saw on gold but you can you can kind of see they were quite close to getting a crossover the slow stochastic is overbought it's almost just about to cross that 80% level which would be a reversal signal but we just have to wait and see how things pan out with this GDP figure so let's let's have a look at that so you've got German CPI so that's gonna be interesting for your dollar and it is this GDP figure that's a 130 make sure you've got your alert set for that there is obviously a lot of a lot of information on here to get to grips with a lot of different GDP data results due out I'm sure that is going to be an interesting day so make sure that that when they're set because after that you still have the housing index and you've got the university of Michigan inflation data as well so that should be quite good for your dollar and cable but it's GDP that people are pretty much waiting for today as well so we'll keep you on the chart for make it as part of your leg going forward and join me again on Monday to find out what happened next


Hi everyone, my name is Sanand, I am part of the startup Ideo4, so we develop mobile apps for chargers. So today I am going to talk about one of the hack that we developed in Hackathon. This is the most favorite app in my mobile, it's kind of, it took me to this place also. So what we are using this app, I found is that for known landmarks, like map-based directions work pretty well. But if my place, like my house is like a kilometer away from Marathri bridge, which is a known landmark, but the route from that landmark to the last mile, it's like not so great. I know like pretty good shortcuts that Google does, Google doesn't know and in some seasons there are certain routes that are visible. So those things like, it's not captured anywhere. And if one of my friends wants to come to a place, he comes to that landmark and then gives a call, like how do I come? So it's like, it just always happens, the last connection happens to a phone call. So looking for, I was looking for a solution where like the map can be drawn easily, like with the pencil kind of Duran web and I could be able to share it to my friend. So this was basically the idea. There should be a tool where I can draw up a map canvas and I should get a shareable link and I should send it to my friend who will be using his mobile to find the map. And this solution seems to be like the core idea. But we thought like instead of just consuming the map on a mobile, given that mobile like smart phone has so many sensors which can be used, we thought like we can also add an extra feature like for consuming this particular generated link. Like many of you must have noted this, like in like last IMPIL coverage, like the stats are pretty good, like the graphics, the play stats are like pretty good. They were pinned to like players instead of like getting pinned to the screen. So when the camera actually panned and zoomed, those like to see those we should have seen was pretty good. So these are basically augmented reality stuff like where the content is generated, content is like attached to a physical view of the world. So we thought like why don't we use that in the app that we are going to download. So like augmented reality, like when we started exploring, we found like pretty cool use cases. One was by BMW where like in the windshield they added augmented reality and displayed vital stuff like if you're going to crash, like coming, like suddenly. And with mobile, like we know like so many of these sensors like cameras, guys go back to the meter, GPS and like it makes the augmented reality experience much more affordable like in a smart phone. So that's when we explored and found like pretty good SDKs that we are available for developing these such kind of apps. So like all these like are free to use for non-commercial labs and before is even free for commercial use. So we went ahead and picked layer for our like hat. So this is how it worked like the user would draw the map, their base interface, share it over and SMS and then like their experience comes as an augmented reality where like there are virtual balloons flying around. You just follow it with your camera, like just carry like this and follow, you would be reaching your destination. That was the plan. So it's like maybe I'll show you a short demo of how it works. So you just start drawing the road. So we automatically deduct like where there is a left turn, right turn based on the like the positions of these markers. And then appropriate bubbles would be placed on the date. So that it's like even like 100 to 200 meters before you are about to take a turn, the balloon would be like like prompting appropriately. So that's it. You draw the link and then say create road. It would actually generate a link. And just show run through. We also have this map drawing interface on mobile as well. So you can draw the map on mobile and share. And then the friend also can consume in his mobile. So this is how it works. So like there are like markers that are available. You can drag and drop on the map you have. And then you can even like add an annotation like this is a landmark based stuff. And then you can say generate link. You can send it over in SMS. That's like a readable link which if you have a layer map installed, you can use that as an augmented reality. Otherwise you can just use your browser to use it. So it's like no platform blocking stuff. And then once it's open in layer, you actually will find like balloons that are visible. It just follow it like even here I have placed like four markers on the road that leads to Terry. So I'm able to like, if you can come here, I can show you. So these are the bubbles that actually lead me to this. That's basically it. So it's the app is available in the Android market. It's free download. Bombay like for our office. Those roads aren't actually drawn onto the map. Okay. Is that fine? Yeah. Yeah. It just needs a camera. Yeah. I mean, does it take? If you don't have a map doesn't have that speed actually map. Yeah. I'm just a representative camera. So it's like it just takes the lap long that is being pulled.


All right everybody, we're gonna take the Jeep Wrangler hybrid here out for a spin and We got the gimbal here. We also have our GoPro running So we'll get some live-action shots and everything first thing I'm gonna do though is I'm going to Reset the fuel economy so that we get a good average here and and Make sure to buckle up so we're not getting dinged at and You can see it's going down as we're just sitting here But now we're going this thing's got regenerative brakes. It's got right now. We're in hybrid mode And we are moving you can see or you can hear that the engine isn't running This is an all electric mode at the moment. I only got 1% of battery life left on the electric batteries here, so I'm sure the engine is going to kick in in a little bit, but super quiet in this thing We're also going to do a zero to 60 on this Jeep rates it at six seconds. So once again, we'd like to thank the owner of this car for letting us do these videos and Take this thing out for a spin. It's pretty cool of him to let us do that Now you can see just that little bit. We went through our Lot there that it's at 25 as I'm sitting here. It's going down But we're gonna we're gonna stop and then zero to 60 Right here. Nobody's coming. So take the timer and go There's about nine I don't know. We schooled the tires a little bit. I'll have to go back on the Camera and check the time, but you can do that at home Anyways, that was really quick for a four-door Wrangler This thing is still very quiet. You know, it's telling me that I'm at less than 1% But we're still in hybrid mode I'm wondering if that'll automatically switch me when we get down to 0% to full e-save we can turn the Max regeneration on Which is that button right there? So all of our braking and everything will get maximized for Building that battery back up Sing is really smooth We'll get it up on the highway here get up the highway speeds I'm gonna reset the fuel economy again. Just to see what we're getting on the highway here That's 74 miles per gallon. No, that's with max Regeneration on if we turn that off Wonder if that starts going on Oh, yeah See how we're climbing now Just like that it jumped up to 24 miles per gallon So definitely when you have that max generation Regeneration on that's gonna bring your fuel economy down because I think you're just Relying on the engine at that point We'll get back on the highway here to the store. That's really all I wanted to do today was take this thing out for a spin get an idea of You know, how good a fuel economy you're gonna get it'd be nice to take this on a real long drive, but Unfortunately, it's not ours. So and we're only at 1% battery. So it'd be nice to have that fully charged, too You know, I think this thing would be you get 21 miles of all electric Charge on this if you're just in electric mode. So this thing would be great You know, if you live close to work and travel less than 20 miles a day To get to and from work. You'd essentially never have to put gas in this thing So that'd be a you know, really a nice deal if you lived close to work or didn't have to commute very far each day Then you can charge it up every night, but from a you know, ride ability and just quietness factor this thing is really nice and quiet rides like a Jeep which you'd expect and Really a nice vehicle once again, I want to thank the owner for letting us do this test drive You can check us out at www.SummitAuto.com And if you want to see if you want to subscribe to our YouTube channel It's a youtube.com slash summit auto In fact in a second you'll see a link in the upper left of the screen to subscribe to our YouTube channel I'll link to more wrangler videos like this one in the upper right a link to our Website in the lower left and a link to our latest YouTube video in the lower right click those check us out and Thanks a lot for checking out the video and it was a lot of fun to take this thing down the road


Ladies and gentlemen, Salah Mike, Abby Lu. And we're here with the official world's final say. There's no argument, protein bar, tier list. You can go watch another video with all your internet supplement-sponsored shills. But we're the official. We have no relation to any of these folks and we're gonna give it to you raw. Ooh, baby, I like it raw. Yeah, so we're gonna go by taste and a very little bit of nutrition on the side. Something's ridiculously out of the range of nutrition. We'll mention it. But otherwise, we're mostly going by taste. Let's get started. Hit them, Abby, where are we starting? This one. What is this? No cow, dipped. As Abby mentioned, it is on sale. And that is a little bit of a red flag, but I'm gonna go into this blind and open-hearted and open-minded. Oh, what are macros? It's actually not stiff. I thought it was gonna be really hard to break. What are our macros? Orange decals, seven fat, 26 carbs, and 20 protein. Again, pretty standard protein bar by nowadays. Smells like a routine bar. What's our flavor? Oh, it's so dry. We're dry, our powdery chocolate peanut butter. I'd say sugar alcohol, and that's it. I got mine on the count of three, ready? Oh, five. Ready? One, two, three, am I eating chalk? But, oh. Good but. You gave it a good but? Yeah, I was there too, am I eating chalk, but then it's like, it's not that bad. So I've lived through the years of protein bar hell, and I came out alive. And so now I just hold a higher standard of what my protein bar is. So I think if you give me that 10 years ago even, I would say it's above average, 10 years ago. I'm gonna change it to am I eating chalk? Okay, we're going chalk. All right, dumper in the chalk. Dumper in the chalk, what's our next one? All right, let's go to the fit snack. Another one that's on sale. Is it? Oh, that is a bad sign. Yeah, it's a bad sign. I know the texture, I could feel it through the bar. So it does have that crunch action going on. Yeah, we should do a close up, huh? Oh God, oh God, oh God. So some of them have tried to do this texture. I know we have a couple more like that where it's like the waffle crisps surrounded by some kind of white stuffs and the chocolate. What's our macros? The macros are right in the pocket. Okay, 190 calories. A little bit less. So eight fat, 17 carbs, 16 proteins. All right, so about the same. Like I said, we're kind of in this range of everything. Oh God, I think it's a fail. A lot of you just got no taste, man. Okay, I don't know if we can judge it properly because I feel like it just went bad. I don't think it went bad. So I think the issue with this list is we don't have anything that's just like not good. Like shouldn't even be a protein bar in my head? Are we considering that anything? Because in my head that means macros. Right. That's just the F tier. So I'm probably putting this there. Yeah, no, the crisp part too. It's not even like crispy. It's chewy. That's what I mean. It's like so stale. It's not like rice, crispy, chewy either though. Cause like rice, crispy, chewy, yummy. How they not made a rice, crispy protein bar? That would hit. Yeah. You can do it too. I don't even know. You can do it. I can do it. This one. One bar. One bar. One bars are really good. One bars are pretty popular. I feel like something on their branding, I feel like they made like the holistic look. Like it looks healthy. Yeah. Where old school protein bars, you know, look like muscle, like lice. Oh, okay. Short and flat. This is a chocolate peanut butter one. Macros are about the same as everything else I think. Well, 230. So it's on the higher side for calories. 20 grams of protein, nine fat, 24 carb. Yeah. But we got chocolate protein. There's peanut pizzas in here. What'd you say? Are you paid by them? No. Oh, wait, wait. There's chocolate peanut butter? Texture, I would say, is better than the rest so far. But still very old school protein bar. Like it tastes like, like my ideal protein bar is that it just tastes good. I don't want to bite it with a blindfold and be like, oh yeah, that's a protein bar. Right? Because no one wants a protein bar. It's hard to do that. It's very hard to do that. But we want something yummy, right? That tastes like that has protein in it. That's what a protein bar is to me. It's a yummy bar that has protein macros. All these bars, there's a kind of lack of flavor. They're all kind of bland. And it's still the highest amount of calories so far. 230? I'm probably giving it a good but. All right, I'm taking Abbey Down Memory Lane, the metrics bar. There's an apple crisp one that bangs. That sounds good. But this one isn't my favorite, the super cookie. There used to be one that was like a fudge cream deal so it has this cream layer and it was more fudgy. But this one's solid. This does lean more towards like a meal replacement bar. This is huge. So we got 410 calories, 13 fat, 40 carb and like 30 protein. Look at the size comparison there. But it's almost more by size, probably than like macro density, right? Because they're literally, it's literally double, twice as long and thicker than the other ones. All out of 10 calories, it's a whole meal or something. Yeah, this is a huge two inch bar. We got this frosting, it's obviously dense because it's probably got protein in it. But at least we have a mini chocolate layer going and then kind of a hard crisp like inside. Pretty good, right? It's definitely, it's like an old school formula. So you can kind of taste like, I have an extremely talented palette, so try to keep up. I taste cinnamon. So there's a little bit of cinnamon, but you can almost taste the cold because of the sugar alcohol. I can taste a little cold on my tongue. Cold? Cold. What does that mean? Sugar alcohol. You know, alcohol like evaporates and it's like kind of cold or like gum sometimes cold. What is he talking about? I'm right, huh? I don't know what you're talking about, but any taste of cinnamon, chocolate's good. The crunch, the crisp in there is good. And the frosting's good. It's like a good chewy to add to the crunch. What are you giving it? Really? What are you doing? About average. I'm down with it. I'm down with above average. But I'd probably give it, yeah, I'd probably give it, it does the job for now. It doesn't scream protein bar to me, you know? That's true? Which is a good thing. Yeah, it's not, yeah.  I'm down with it. I'm down with above average. I'm down. A quest bar. Okay. The new and improved quest bar. I heard they've been changing formulas around. They have both. All right, we got both. So we have the quest hero, which I've just heard, I've never actually tried this one. I've heard word on the street the quest hero's it. 15 grams of protein. A little low. Kind of looks like a turd. Oops. 190 calus. A fat 29 car 15 protein. So yeah, a little low on the protein, but again, kind of in the pocket.  I wonder why that is. We're back. Maybe back in the day it used to be more of the dense, fudgy stuff. Any texture and then calorically is not as bad. I actually taste like chocolate. We got some flavor going on. What's the flavor? Chocolate caramel pecan. That's a little more normal, I guess. I would agree. So like you get the initial, right? And then you get like the chewiness and then you get an aftertaste. The aftertaste is actually good, which is typically the worst part of a protein bar, right? Aftertaste normally lingers. Yeah, it is a little bit closer to Rice Krispies for sure. The Krispies actually tastes crispy. It's pretty sweet. I think it's the sweetest one so far. A lot of the other ones were really flavorless, huh? And I haven't eaten all morning. Do you eat? No. So clean pallets. That one's pretty good. I might go, we can't throw a God tier. I would definitely put a above average. A above average for sure. God tier, we'll see, I guess. I don't know if it's fair to change things as we move because like if the rest of them are trash, that's a God's tier. But as of right now, it's definitely above average. None of these am I choosing to snack on. Another course. We're going on the quest kick. The quest, frosted cookie. 11 protein, not a lot going on. 13 fat, 18 carb. This is obviously trying to be a cookie. And so it's kind of taking the spot of a hostess, I guess. Right?  Yeah. This is like a hostess deal, right?  Yeah, very hostessy. Okay. It smells like a cookie.  It smells like those gas station donuts you get. This is good. It has that waxy chocolate that like those gas station donuts have. It tastes very similar. That's pretty good. That kind of tastes like a donut from a gassy. And I know that sounds like a low standard, but those things are okay. Man, I almost wish there was a deal in between God tier and above average. Cause there should be, right? There should be like a good. Like that's good. Again, I'm not throwing a God tier. So what we do too, Abby, is we can throw within. So if we agree this is above average and not God tier, then the order of God's or above average matters. So I would put this first in the above average. Okay. Does that make sense? Like it's better than the other two, but I don't know if it's God tier. God tier, you know what I mean? You gotta earn your rights around here. Right. You can't just be called God for no reason. Everyone's calling everyone the goat. Everyone's saying everything's God tier and goaded. Have some standards on the internet.  Double chocolate chunk, 20 grams protein. You said you've never really had a regular quest. I really know. 170 cows. Yup. 7 fat 24 carbs.  Yeah, very standard. I feel like they made the standard of that macro breakdown and everyone tried to match it. Cause before that it was more like that metrics bar. They're so high. This is what I'm more familiar with. Oh, they got real chocolate chunks. Yeah. So quest bar also, because they blew up, man. Like we worked with them back in the day, like 2012. They blew up and they made a good bar. But then I feel like they went through different recipes. So every once in a while, the word on the shoe would be like, man, quest recipes not good right now. Or man, they just revamped it. It's really good right now. So I wonder where we're sitting. More recently, I've heard that quest is back back in the game. 170 is pretty good for a big bar. This is one of those OG protein bars. Like that, have you had the Costco protein bar? No, but I don't know what you mean, like the texture. The texture is that like, what do you call this? A Play-Doh-E? Play-Doh. Yeah. And it's like a whisper or a chocolate. It kind of tastes like a chocolate LaCroix. It's a little chalky. A little bit. Does the job? I want to say it does a job, but I think it's like not that high. Damn, down there by the one. I can put it by the one. The one and them are in my head. Previous to today. We're very similar. It's good, but. Yeah. Good, but. Good, but. Or dark horse. Oh, let's do it. So we found a Cinnamon Toast Crunch protein bar. Now I've seen cereal bars that are just like 30 carb and nothing else. This one has nine fat, 22 carb, 20 protein. Oh, textured yeast. All right. So basically we got a cinnamon looking frosting. This is kind of actually like the metrics bar. It's kind of pretty. No, it's like the metrics bar. So we have a light cream with a caramel drizzle up top. With crumbs on the top of it. Yeah. Yeah. This is fancy. This is Gore May. General Mills, the GM knows how to do it, bro. And then we got a dipped in caramel underneath. Oh, very, very cinnamon-y. That screams flavor. I'm on a roller coaster ride of flavor right now. Oh, and then it gets too sweet. There's a, it's cold. Don't you feel the cold?  Oh, definitely. I taste the sugar alcohol. That's the cold. It's like, oh, my tongue. Little ice fairies are dancing on my tongue. For me, it's like an aftertaste thing. Yeah. That's really sweet. That's really sweet. The frosting is too sweet. How did you do that to your protein? How many calories is in this? 200 or something? 220? I don't know if it's heading to God tier because it's still got some weird taste going on. I might throw that up in there. Is it above average? It's either like lowest tier God tier or top tier above average for me. Above the quest cookie? I think so. That was almost a little too bland. And if I take in for the bonus points, the macros. Okay. I would say if you have to eat a protein bar, you want something like to indulge in, that's a good one. Right, yeah. Macros are pretty good.  I agree that it's probably too sweet and the flavors still aren't very distinct.  It's not a real cinnamon taste. But it has real flavor. Well, a lot of these ain't flavored up. It's more filling. I think the cookie is probably not gonna be as light and you get two pieces. In the macros, we're just kind of whole bars. All right, I'm done with whatever you want. Above average. Top above average? Yeah. Probably the top of above average for our cereal friend. I've heard good things, dude. Legendary foods, cinnamon roll. I've never seen something like this before. I've heard good things of legendary. I think they're on the come up. I tried their strawberry pop tart. I put on my Instagram story and everyone says the cinnamon rolls bang. That's why I got a chocolate one. Same company. Everyone says it's good and I'm trying to go in unbiased and obviously we're tasting these all back to back. That looks real. You're the cinnamon bun queen. Yeah, I made some. Okay, I made everyone. Let's see. 200 calories, 10 fat, 22 carb, 20 protein. I got no cinnamon. I'm skipping that one. Again, very basic. That one's got no cinnamon. No one needs to eat that. Density is pretty good. The frosting feels plasticky, but...  I like it. I like it too. Yeah. Maybe it's unfair because they just said like protein bar and flip the game and went a whole different route. But for me, the macros are so similar to these other bars. Why wouldn't you experiment with a whole new texture? That texture is like a... It is similar to cinnamon roll. Like the chewiness. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Where protein bars, the texture is always gonna be gross. Yeah, this is good. That's pretty good. That surprised me. I'm gonna eat the one without cinnamon. I could have that for breakfast. Warm it up. Again, it ain't a cinnamon roll from what's the store in the malls. Cinnamon. Yeah, it ain't cinnamon, but it's pretty good. It's good. Is it worthy of God's here? I might say yeah. I think so. I might say yeah. I think it might be the first one to have earned it. So legendary foods won Abby's heart over. I got it. Oh, they didn't have the cinnamon roll? They only had Pop-Tart. All right, so we added the cinnamon roll to the list and now we're going straight Pop-Tart. Look at that. Look at the macros. Oh! What? Real hard. 180, so it's lower than most. 180 calories, eight fat, 24 carb and 20 protein. That's pretty good. Yeah, it's very doughy, very pillowy. Almost two pillowy. Two pillowy. Yeah, I think it's two pillowy for a Pop-Tart. It's more pillowy. I forget it's a Pop-Tart. Yeah, it's more pillowy than the cinnamon roll. Yeah, but it's a better texture for a protein bar. Very typical chocolate flavor. It's more like you're eating something that was actually baked. Yeah. Versus like, what is it called? Synthetic. Yeah, they taste like clay, right? Like every protein bar's texture feels like. Gummi?  And then, or chalky and dry. Yeah. It's not my favorite. I might still have my throat above average. Really? It might be above average. I don't know if it's allowed to be said because I wanted to be as neutral as I can, but like this is like the average protein bar to me. Okay. I don't know if you've had that, but I've had this for years. We'll try that next. Yeah, and this is like the average protein bar. Not great, not bad, reliable, decent macros, tastes solid, a low key confession. I really like mint chip ice cream and sometimes I feel judged for that. I feel like it's a popular thing.  Right. So I get that. Smell that. It smells, I could smell it from here. Smells like those Andes mints you get at a wannabe classy restaurant. Yeah, so it's just what covered in chocolate and then you have two layers inside. Yeah, we got like a proteiny fudgy and a crispy. They tried to do both on this side. The crispy, yeah. Yeah. I can't even. You know what?  Girl scout, thin mints. Oh no, she hates it. You've had it. It's good. It's good. It's good. The chocolate is better than that Pop-Tart thing. True. The flavors are really good on that, actually the mint one. I'll let you judge that one because this one's like my go-to protein bar. We could put it a bottom of above average Yeah, I agree. I would say it does the job just cause it's a lonely category. Next we got a built bar which I've actually heard good things about and I've never tried. Built I think started as like an amino acid or something. No way. 130 calories. Wow. Too fat. That's good. 17 protein, 18 carb. So by stats, this is by far the best. I've never, I didn't know it was that low in protein. Okay, we'll see if it's worth it. Oh no.  Oh, I can't rip it. You can't? No, I can't. Look, it's growing. Twist it. I twisted it. That's great. So this whole innards, oh no. People, I swear someone told me this was good. It smells. It looks like ear wax. Like the worst kind of fake chocolate we're talking about. Maybe we shouldn't smell it. Oh, what is that smell? It's not good. Just till like chocolate. No, there is a smell and I can't describe it that good, but it's not good. Definitely fake. Am I supposed to eat this? Yeah, I don't really want it.  Or you rip apart like a good caramel bar and there's something good happening. This is not it. All right, cheers, dude. Did you even take a bite? What is that texture? I can't chew this. It's very fake sugar. We need a spit bucket. What is that? It tastes like plastic. But that caramel chewy. Oh, that's worse. It got slimy once my saliva touched it. Keep chewing, it gets worse. You know what I mean? The flavor's bad. No, that was not good.    How desperate could you possibly be? I'm real hungry. I've been grinding 10 hours in a booth, you know? It's not good. It shouldn't be called a protein bar. No. But the stats are so good. That's why, because they sacrifice all the flavor. What is this? Built. I'm sorry, built. You should rethink what we're doing. No, you should rethink everything. I swear, somebody told me that's good. Oh my God, I've never- Salted caramel.  Unless one of these come out of nowhere, but just by this label, I'm telling you, this one's not coming. This is the best protein bar. And I've never eaten it in this sense. So extra chewy, which you don't expect. There's like literal caramel on it. Once you rip the top, there's caramel underneath the shell, like a tiny amount, but kind of like three musketeers? Who's got that? Milky Way, like a very, this is, the texture of this is like a very off ratio Milky Way.  It's only hard to break because it was in the fridge. That's true. Bear Bell's good. Not overpowering. Creamy. Creamy, but chewy in a good way. You don't get a lot of creamy. If you want to get through a protein bar, it needs to be a little more neutral. A balance, yeah. Yeah, and that one just doesn't so good. The aftertaste is a hair chalky. It is a protein bar. We didn't read the macros. They are good. 200 calorie, eight fat, 18 carb, with three fiber and 20 protein. So this actually has the best macros, the more protein than carbs. And 200 calories is pretty standard. The caramel's good too. The caramel's legitimate. It might be like real caramel. You know, it's not all crazy waxy. That might be God's here for me, based on this list. Pure protein is like an OG. I feel like they're an OG because they try to take the meat head protein bar and then they label it kind of mom style, you know? Like you can see this in like a soccer mom's thing. Reminds me of Costco, because I think it's the Costco one. 180, a little good macros actually. 180 calories, four fat, 17 carb, 21 protein. This is gonna be bad, dude. I don't feel good. I gotta do a fat workout after this too. This is a- Texture's insanely typical. Looks chalky. Bare bones, fudged, frosting. Oh, you got a chocolate chip. You stole mine. I got a hole in mine. Here's the one who broke it, my chocolate chip. Yeah, this is like a brick. Very chalky, like all the way through with some chocolate chips. But these chocolate chips might be fake, you know? There's no way that's good. It's okay. I'm out. Actually, the chocolate for that world is pretty good. It's good. No, if you got chocolate chunks in it. I definitely just judged the book by the cover. I apologize. It might be the best chocolate flavoring so far. Wait, this is like three chocolate chips in it. I can't. Oh, I got a tummy ache. Oh my God. It's gonna be the best piece.   Hates me. Texture is wet, chewy, and chalky at the same time. What are you thinking? Didn't know that could happen. It does the job. You think it's that good? The chocolate itself is. That's what I mean. But the texture is wild. I don't think it's the worst texture. I think if you're used to the quest, the old quest bar, the Kirkland protein bar, like that chewiness, it's kind of pretty similar. Aftertaste isn't hot. I'll give it that. I would say for me, it would be the high, yeah, I'm down with it, does the job. Good bet. But I think it's below my builder. Oh, it's true, yeah, yeah, yeah, true. But it could be it does the job below that. The macros are really good.  Okay, so I think it puts it up there, below the builders. I'd be down with that. I'm down with that. All right, I was trying to get us Power Crunch. Have you had Power Crunch? Yeah. Power Crunch is one of my favorites, actually. It's more of a wafer bar. Again, like, all right, everyone knows their protein bar is how can we make it better or different? And that's why I think that cinnamon roll made it so high on our list. I was at the store and trying to get the Power Crunch, I couldn't find it, but they said this optimum nutrition is a similar wafer. It's a protein wafer. It's big. Yeah, it's really big. It's thick and big. Okay. It's 210 calories, 10 fat, 14 carb, 15 protein. Oh, it's pretty. Oh, it's two pieces. I think it's split into two pieces. Wow. That's pretty good, right? That looks, I mean, yeah. To the eye, that's crazy. It tastes like, it smells like cardboard. Oh, I love cardboard. Give me. It's hard to rip it apart. Airy protein snack wafer. Does it even have a flavor? Wait, that's good. Chocolate creme, no way. You did it. Y'all ever ate those cookies? What? There's a wafer cookie that's just like that. Are wafers cookies? It's not too flavorful. So yeah, if it's a protein bar, macros or whatever. Hit me, what you think it is? No, it's good. I need a drink, dude. Thank you. My stomach hurts. Above average. I'm down with above average. I might even put it above the metrics bar for taste. That cinnamon roll just slaps them though, right? I've heard of these. It's a brownie. Eat me. Guilt-free protein brownie. Are they going sexual with it? Chocolate. It's up to you. No, for sure. Oh, the icon or whatever is like lips and bite. It's like the bite, the lip emote. And it says eat me. Okay, wait, 186 calories. I've never seen that before. That's accurate, because most people round up. You can round up in this game. 10 fat, 10 carb, 14 protein. That's where you guys don't know, but if your macros don't match your calories on your labels because the FDA allows them to round up. That looks like a brownie.   Is there a layer on top? Eat me. There's like a chocolate layer on top. Eat me. Texture looks pretty good. Eat me. All right, last piece. Oh, texture's a brownie. Yeah. Texture is a brownie. A little foamy maybe? Like spongy? Yeah, spongy, spongy. A little spongy maybe, but that's a brownie dog. All right, I don't know dude. Uh-oh, okay.  It tastes like a chocolate cake. It tastes more cakey than brownie because of the texture. It's a little dry in the back of my throat. A little dry. Where are you putting it though? Above average? Yeah. It might be above the metrics for me. I mean, it's up to you though. Yeah. I think if you dress it up, it could probably sneak its way into God tier. 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