Breaking News Edition, I'm Penise Levine, coming to you live from Tel Aviv, Day 21 of the war. And new details are still emerging around the Hamas terror rampage, the terror group being compared to ISIS or some suggest worse than ISIS. Questions remain about the pending full-scale response by Israel and when that will happen. IDF troops conducting a limited land incursion into the Gaza Strip overnight, seen as laying the groundwork for future moves. Tomorrow marks three weeks since the darkest day in Israel's 75-year history. The Hamas killing rampage in southern Israel on the 7th of October, which saw more than 1,400 people shot, tortured and butchered at a music festival and at several kibbutzim and basses. Tomorrow marks three weeks since more than 200 people were kidnapped during that terror onslaught and taken across to Gaza. Since then, four women have been released. Qatar saying it's working on a deal to secure the release of the other hostages. Details emerging about extensive underground tunnels in the enclave, tunnels that are not set to complicate the pending IDF incursion. In the most recent airstrikes, the IDF saying it killed five senior Hamas commanders. As Defence Minister Joab Gallant reiterates that Israel will win the war. He says the country's next 75 years largely depends on it. So, for more on the ground, we go up north. Our correspondent, Chanda Sahut, is in northern Israel. And Chanda, give us the latest updates on the ground. Many communities there in the north evacuating the area in recent days. Given concerns around Hezbollah's potential moves, what is the latest where you are? Right, Benidah. Communities within five kilometers of the Lebanese border have been evacuated by the Israeli military and the Defence Ministry and that's because the Israelis are hoping to keep civilians out of the line of fire that could erupt with Hezbollah on the northern border. Now, Hezbollah, while they have informally involved themselves in this war, since October 7th, there have been tit for tat exchanges of fire that have resulted now in more than 46 deaths on Hezbollah's side and several on the Israeli side as well. That number also includes civilians who are dead or injured among Israeli soldiers. So the Israeli military is saying that it's prepared to open another front on the northern border. Hezbollah is the aggressor. The United States has been both publicly and privately pressuring the Israelis not to have a larger preemptive strike inside of Lebanese territory out of fears of the situation erupting into a multi-conflict war, a multi-front war, rather a semi-regional conflict that the United States simply doesn't want to see. They want the Israelis to put all of their focus in the south on their goals with Hamas. And the reality of the situation is, if other groups or countries in the Middle East are involved, Israel and the United States will have no choice. Now, along with that pressure, they are adding assurances to the Israelis that they will assist in the fight against Hezbollah militarily, meaning that they will assist via air, land and sea with whatever the Israelis might need to combat Hezbollah because their weapons capabilities are much more sophisticated and advanced than what we see coming out of Gaza. The exchanges of fire continuing overnight yesterday, the Israelis conducting drone strikes in Lebanese territory that resulted in huge fires, plumes of smoke, even reaching several parts of northern Israel. There was a haze in the air that is actually still present this morning, so the situation is quite sensitive and it continues at this time and it doesn't really seem to be letting up, Benita. Talk to us about the latest rhetoric after that big meeting in Beirut earlier on in the week. We saw that message of unity, so to speak, from Hezbollah, Palestinian Islamic jihad and Hamas all meeting in the Lebanese capital. What is the latest out of Lebanon itself? Well, look, Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah chief meeting with Saleh Al-Arrouri from the Hamas political bureau, along with Ziyad al-Nakhali, the secretary general of Palestinian Islamic jihad, the axis of resistance, as they call it, they said, is strong and their mission is one, their enemy is one, and that is Israel. So they said that they are willing to continue assisting each other in this fight, but that meeting also goes to show that the coordination and the communication between the three groups is prevalent and it is continuous. So while they might not have, while Hezbollah might not have aided in that initial Hamas attack on October 7th, they are still willing to assist them. They are still willing to open up another front to really put the pressure on Israel in more than just one place. Thank you so much. We will be coming back to you for regular updates corresponding Hamda Salehut live from northern Israel. Thanks, Hamda. Now for more, we welcome to studio Rafael Urushalmi, former senior intelligence officer in the IDF. Rafael, thank you so much for being here. So many developments on this day, day 21. I want to start with this limited land incursion overnight by the IDF into the Gaza Strip, seeming to lay the groundwork, so to speak, for bigger moves down the line. Talk to us about exactly what unfolded. Yes, absolutely. So first of all, it shows that we can use these ground incursions for quite a while while the hostage situation is developing, meaning we can wait for the ground offensive. The last night and the night before, the infantry went into Gaza with tanks, and this is an achievement in itself because there are many obstacles prepared for the entry of our forces and especially tanks, obstacles against tanks. Those tanks managed to destroy outposts equipped with anti-tank missiles, so they could destroy these outposts before those missiles were shot at them. The main purpose of these incursions is to open access into Gaza for the main offensive, to open like a road. Of course, this road is not marked, and we only know where it is. And around it, we put mines and booby traps for the terrorists, so they don't really know where is this road. But these roads, we're going to need much more than two. Now we've opened like two inland roads for the main offensive. That's one of the purposes, and another purpose is, of course, to inflict losses to the terrorists and also to gain intelligence and spot, of course, entrances to the tunnels. Last night, terrorists came out. As soon as they put their nose out of the tunnel, they were eliminated, but the most important is that we knew where the tunnel was, which also allows us to experiment intelligent ammo, ammunition, that is a new thing. It's a little surprise for the Hamas that we have in store of how this ammunition can go in the tunnel and make its way through the tunnel and hit the targets inside. So all this is being experimented. A few little technological things are being put there and left on in the field that will help us for the bigger surprise that we're preparing them, something that is more technological, but that needs little relays on the ground. So all this put together makes it very, very important, this little incursion is actually super important for the success of the main ground entry. What is waiting for this ground entry, as you put it, help Israel or not? What is the sentiment on the ground among soldiers who have seen what unfolded on the 7th of October and may feel that it's time to go out and defend the country to make sure that it doesn't happen again? Does waiting help that kind of feeling on the ground? No, of course not. There's a frustration among the soldiers. It's not only the soldiers, the whole people of Israel. We're all wanting to go and do the job. But we have noticed and we have learned that even though we want to do the job, it's not necessary really to enter very fast because unless there is an opportunity on the operational tactical level, that shouldn't be missed and then we should go in. But otherwise, the waiting is just, it's good for everybody. The waiting is good for the hostage situation. We can allow for waiting a little longer. It's good also for our own soldiers because the more we wait, you will see this incursion, the more we wait, the more we gather intelligence, the more we train for what we're going to have to do, the more we prepare logistically. So all this will limit the risk to the lives of our soldiers. I said after, they're starting to understand that even though there is a frustration and this frustration is filtering up to the generals and the generals not so great trust in the political level is filtering down to the soldiers. So it's not a very healthy situation, but so far, so of course all this will be limited in time. I would say like a few days at the most and also three, four days. And the Hamas is going to anyway cynically just prolong these negotiations. They're going to make it last because the more they negotiate, the more they manage to delay our offensive. In the end, it's still a good thing.  We could have done this 20 years ago. So we can wait a few more days.  If you could wait just a few more minutes, we've got more to discuss. I first want to go, though, to our correspondent, Robert Swift. He joins us from southern Israel. So Rob, tomorrow marking three weeks since the Hamas killing rampage in the south. We know that the IDF conducted this limited incursion overnight. What update can you share from where you are right now? That's right. So this was a raid involving tanks, infantry and engineering units. And just to explain the context of this essentially in military terms, a raid is a limited capturing of the ground in order to complete certain objectives with the troops then withdrawing afterwards. It's understood that the objectives that the Israeli military was conducting there was to attack various Hamas defensive positions, particularly anti-tank missiles and elements of Hamas' command on the ground there at the tactical level. This is likely all part of essentially preparing the ground for the next stage. Now this is the second of these raids that have been conducted in the last 24 hours. And this suggests that Israel is maybe getting closer to the stage where it launches the full ground operation. Now there have been previous raids into Gaza since hostilities began, but those were more special forces raids which had a focus on the hostages. Some of them retrieved bodies of Israelis who had fallen and been seized into Gaza. But the operation that took place last night and the one the previous day, they're more about setting the ground. They also come after a large-scale bombardment last night. We were on the ground close to the border and the amount of fire that Israel was putting in, first with artillery and then later with airstrikes and drones. It was a larger-scale bombardment than we'd seen down here on the border. And this, combined with the two raids, like I say, suggests that Israel is getting ready to that launch stage. Talking about the hostages, Israel is denying reports of a deal to give fuel to the strip in exchange for the release of the hostages. What more is known about efforts right now to make sure that these hostages get home and that they get home safely? That's right. Well, essentially there's an argument over the fuel with humanitarian causes inside Gaza Strip, saying that more fuel is required for them to be able to conduct humanitarian work. But Israel, very concerned that fuel is likely to go to Hamas. And that Hamas is already seizing and monopolizing the fuel that does remain within the Gaza Strip. Now, Qatar has been very much involved in negotiations behind the scenes with regards to the negotiations and was involved in the release of the four hostages who've previously made it out of the Gaza Strip. And obviously, as we get closer to the potential ground invasion by Israel, the situation for those hostages becomes increasingly more precarious. Rob, you spoke about the rocket fire still emanating from the strip as of yesterday. Give us a sense of ideas around the scale of the Hamas weapons arsenal right now. It's nearly three weeks in and there are still rockets to be sent from the Gaza Strip towards Israeli territory. Yeah, that's correct. A lot of people ask the question, how are they still able to fire these rockets? First of all, why has the IDF not struck their rockets, preventing them from firing? And how do they still have ammunition? But these are rocket firing positions which are hidden throughout a very tightly packed urban area. So they're not easy to find. And obviously, they'll have multiple locations from which they can fire from. And it's understood that Hamas' arsenal is significant. I saw some reports yesterday suggesting that at the current rate of fire, Hamas could continue its rocket launches for at least a month or two at the current rate. So that gives you an idea of the scale at which they're able to continue this fire. That in itself may come to an end as Israel goes in on the ground, however, as the Hamas will be unable to fire at the same rate, perhaps. Watching all those developments in southern Israel correspondent Robert Swift, we'll be coming back to you for more updates. Thank you for now, Rob. Still with me in studio, Rafael Yerushami, and your take on exactly what we were talking about right now with Rob and the capacity that Hamas still has nearly three weeks in to keep sending rockets towards civilians here in Israel. Yes, this capacity was built over the years, which is another nice and big mistake of some Israeli governments to have let the Hamas strengthen itself in that way over the years. This being said, it's not that easy to destroy. First of all, the ammunition is one thing, and the launching parts is another thing. Some of the launching only requires a motorcycle, sometimes a truck, so it's mobile. It can change. It can hide in an orchard. They usually shoot at night. So these are, of course, the smaller missiles and rockets. But from a truck, you can shoot a rocket that can reach Ashdod. For the larger parts that can reach Tel Aviv and inside Israel, you need a real launching pad made of concrete. These ones are built mostly in the courtyards of schools and hospitals. So even if we know where they are, we cannot hit them. It's only when we come in the ground that we can destroy them. It's too dangerous for the collateral damage, and they know that. And some of them are, of course, in the ground and very well assimilated. So it takes time, it takes intelligence, and it takes surgical operation to destroy them. We are destroying them, but there are many of them. This is the same with the Kisbalah. The strength of the power of the Kisbalah is not that it has 150,000 missiles. It's got hundreds of launching pads, meaning they can launch quite a few at the same time. Which is, of course, as you know, the Iron Dome is 95% success, so 5% will get through. So it's going to take time. People have to understand that you can't just destroy overnight all these places. Also, the Kisbalah will save ammo and launching pads for further stages of the war. They're not going to spend everything now, of course. So they're going to save that. And, of course, also for the final stage, when they feel that they really, like, maybe might lose the war, then shoot a lot in Israel and cover the escape. Because what will happen? They'll cover the escape of the leaders and chiefs who will run out towards Egypt or give us back hostages in exchange for their lives. Well, talking about Egypt and unusual development early on this morning, a missile struck the resort town of Taba, a medical facility there. Six people are injured. Making reports because it's vague as to where this missile could have come from. So share with us what exactly was going down. It is vague in the sense that it's a small-caliber, short-range projectile. So it's very difficult to know who shot it and from where. So it could be from Sinai, because it's happened before. In Sinai, there are Hamas-affiliated terrorist cells, but there are also al-Qaeda and Daesh-affiliated terrorist cells that create quite a lot of havoc and problems for the Egyptian army there in Sinai. So it might have come from there in solidarity with the Hamas, or it came really from Gaza shot by the Hamas towards Elat, fell short. This only shows that what the Biden administration is afraid of could really happen, meaning the extension of the conflict to other theaters of operation. The Egyptians said that once they'll know who and from where the missile was shot, they will react accordingly. But we see also last night that there was another extension, a little of the conflict when the American forces hit Syrian and Iranian interests inside Syria. So it's a very good signal anyway from the United States Army to show that even America is not interested in an extension of conflict and destabilization, the region, they have a strong stand and they're showing it. They're not afraid. And they shot at even Iranian interests in Syria. She's a very good signal. What do you make then of those reports that the U.S. is pressuring Israel to hold off for now or delay its ground offensive so it can sort out its American bases at various sites across the Middle East? Yes, they're advising us and they're asking for a favor. They're not really ordering us. I think Joe Biden himself has made it clear that we have a right to defend ourselves and to defend ourselves the way we see it proper. They're not going to impose on us. Even the European Union yesterday came out with a press communique where they didn't ask for ceasefire, for instance. So people understand that we have to do what we have to do. On the other hand, if we can oblige, and if Biden administration, who's supporting us so strongly, desires to give more of a chance to hostage negotiations and preparing its troops and bringing more support to the American troops already present in the Middle East, all this, if we can do it, we'll have to do it, of course, do it. And I remind you that we are waiting now even a bigger support with more Iron Dome batteries coming from the United States. So I think that we can only be grateful and the Americans do understand that we can only be so grateful as we can. And at some point we might have to do what we have to do. And certainly those Iron Dome's are more necessary than ever right now, not only in the South, potentially in the North as well. And we wait to see what kind of negotiations will be fruitful in terms of helping with hostages, a very worrying situation and heartbreaking to think that with each delay that the pain and the trauma that is going on right now inside the Gaza Strip, it's difficult to imagine. Rafael Yoroshalmi, former senior intelligence officer in the IDF. Thank you as always for being here. I appreciate your insight. Nearly three weeks since the Hamas killing Rampage in southern Israel and still more bodies are being identified. The death toll is at more than 1,400. And many families are still waiting for news on their relatives and friends as we've just been discussing here in studio. Those who are being held hostage in Gaza. Our Orisha Perra went to a special village set up to help survivors of the terror onslaught. Let's take a look. Two and a half weeks since the horrific Hamas onslaught in southern Israel, many are still trying to pick up the pieces. The Emil Rehabilitation Center north of Tel Aviv is one of those places. It opened its gates to survivors of the massacre at Reim Nova Festival on October 7th. The people who were at this party took psychedelic drugs. They didn't land on the ground. They are here, but they are not here. In this village, the main treatment is logotherapy based on the method of Victor Franco. He used the empowerment of internal forces and creating a shell that wraps around the patient. One of the survivors, Natalie Bloom, shared her story with I-24 News and speaks about her personal battle after October 7th. I saw the terrorist with my own eyes. I had severe anxiety attacks. I saw my sister and she looked like a terrorist to me. I looked at her and I saw a terrorist.  I understood that I can't deal with anything. My sister held me and I screamed, stop, stop. I don't want to die. I understood that I needed mental treatment.  Although some may see this approach as controversial, many of his patients feel grateful and some even continue to work in this village. What Emil does here is he doesn't put my mind and soul and body in a cage. He lets my soul be free here. He lets my mind be free. I am allowed to experience new things. I'm allowed to experience a new way of life. And if I don't like it, the door is open. The massacre at Rayeem will most likely continue to haunt everyone who was involved. The combination with hallucinogenic drugs make the treatment even more challenging. Emil and his crew have a message to the thousands of survivors. You're not alone. And if it's not here, then try finding another place that can let you have that peace of mind that you need so bad right now. Yedidim is the biggest volunteer organization in Israel more than 60,000 volunteers are involved. And since the start of the war nearly three weeks ago now, the organization has been focused on helping out displaced residents, organizations, and even military units. More in this report. This small school in the central city of Petah Tikva has become the temporary headquarters of Yedidim, the Hebrew word for friends and to the biggest volunteer organization in Israel. The organization is known mostly for helping cars stuck on the road, but now does much more. We are acting on three main levels. The first level concerns the people's spirit. We are organizing barbecues and military bases. We are taking care of the families. We even do their laundry. The second level is helping the public. We fix security rooms, we deliver food and supplies. The third level is the front. We understand what they lack and we supply them with everything they need. I-24 News joined a team on their daily mission. Our first stop is in a makeshift military base near the southern city of Ophakim. A group of reserve soldiers are asking for ratchet straps. Look, I don't try to find out why things are missing here, but as someone who serves for two years in this unit, I know that whenever I need something, I can turn to Yedidim organization. The second stop is in Bersheva, where the team joins another group of volunteers on their way to fix the window of a security room. One member of the Bersheva team tells us about his experience on October 7th. Starting from 5 p.m. Saturday, we started to help the forces to collect the bodies from the party at Reim. I was there until Monday morning. In the organization's warehouse, we see a variety of objects donated to soldiers and civilians, from simple shirts to drones worth thousands of dollars. This is perhaps another example of the rare spirit of giving, helping, and caring in the Israeli society today. Incredible seeing the scale of volunteer work happening across the country right now, and that is where we wrap up this breaking news edition. I'm Denise Levine in Tel Aviv. Our rolling coverage continues shortly. Stay tuned. 1,300 people murdered and more than 3,000 injured, and the war with Hamas continues. We bring you first-hand testimonies from the front lines, from those who survived, and all the records of the atrocities by Hamas. Follow us as Israel fights terror from the south and north.  Israel's story to the world. I-24 News Channels. In the news edition, I'm Denise Levine, coming to you live from Tel Aviv. Day 21 of the war, and new details are still emerging around the Hamas terror rampage, the terror group being compared to ISIS, or some suggest worse than ISIS. Questions remain about the pending full-scale response by Israel, and when that will happen. IDF troops conducting a limited land incursion into the Gaza Strip overnight, seen as laying the groundwork for future moves. Tomorrow marks three weeks, since the darkest day in Israel's 75-year history. Hamas killing rampage in southern Israel on the 7th of October, which saw more than 1,400 people shot, tortured, and butchered at a music festival, and at several Kibbutzim, Moshevim, and bases. Tomorrow marks three weeks, since more than 200 people were kidnapped during that terror onslaught and taken across to Gaza. Since then, four women have been released. Qatar, saying it's working on a deal to secure the release of the other hostages. Details emerging about extensive underground tunnels in the enclave, tunnels that are set to complicate the pending IDF incursion. In the most recent airstrikes, the IDF saying it killed five senior Hamas commanders. As Defense Minister Joab Gallant reiterates that Israel will win the war. He says the country's next 75 years largely depends on it. So for more on the ground, we go up north. Our correspondent, Chanda Sahut, is in northern Israel. And Chanda, give us the latest updates on the ground. Many communities there in the north evacuating the area in recent days, given concerns around Hezbollah's potential moves. What is the latest where you are? Right, Benita. Communities within five kilometers of the Lebanese border have been evacuated by the Israeli military and the Defense Ministry. And that's because the Israelis are hoping to keep civilians out of the line of fire that could erupt with Hezbollah on the northern border. Now Hezbollah, while they have informally involved themselves in this war, since October 7th, there have been tit for tat exchanges of fire that have resulted now in more than 46 deaths on Hezbollah's side and several on the Israeli side as well. That number also includes civilians who are dead or injured among Israeli soldiers. So the Israeli military is saying that it's prepared to open another front on the northern border. If Hezbollah is the aggressor, the United States has been both publicly and privately pressuring the Israelis not to have a larger pre-emptive strike inside of Lebanese territory out of fears of the situation erupting into a multi-conflict war, a multi-front war, rather a semi-regional conflict that the United States simply doesn't want to see. They want the Israelis to put all of their focus in the south on their goals with Hamas. But the reality of the situation is if other groups or countries in the Middle East are involved, Israel and the United States will have no choice. Now along with that pressure, they are adding assurances to the Israelis that they will assist in the fight against Hezbollah militarily, meaning that they will assist via air, land and sea with whatever the Israelis might need to combat Hezbollah because their weapons capabilities are much more sophisticated and advanced than what we see coming out of Gaza. The exchanges of fire continuing overnight yesterday, the Israelis conducting drone strikes in Lebanese territory that resulted in huge fires, plumes of smoke, even reaching several parts of northern Israel. There was a haze in the air that is actually still present this morning, so the situation is quite sensitive and it continues at this time and it doesn't really seem to be letting up, Benidah. Talk to us about the latest rhetoric after that big meeting in Beirut earlier in the week. We saw that message of unity, so to speak, from Hezbollah, Palestinian-Islamic jihad and Hamas all meeting in the Lebanese capital. What is the latest out of Lebanon itself? Well look, Hasan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah chief meeting with Salih Al-Arrouri from the Hamas Political Bureau, along with Ziyad al-Nachal, the secretary general of Palestinian-Islamic jihad, the Axis of Resistance, as they call it, they said is strong and their mission is won, their enemy is won and that is Israel. So they said that they are willing to continue assisting each other in this fight, but that meeting also goes to show that the coordination and the communication between the three groups is prevalent and it is continuous, so while they might not have, while Hezbollah might not have aided in that initial Hamas attack on October 7th, they are still willing to assist them, they are still willing to open up another front to really put the pressure on Israel in more than just one place. Thank you so much. We will be coming back to you for regular updates corresponding Hamdas al-Hut live from Northern Israel. Thanks Hamda. Now for more, we welcome to studio Rafael Urushalmi, former senior intelligence officer in the IDF. Rafael, thank you so much for being here. So many developments on this day, day 21. I want to start with this limited land incursion overnight by the IDF into the Gaza Strip, seeming to lay the groundwork, so to speak, for bigger moves down the line. Talk to us about exactly what unfolded. Yes, absolutely. So first of all, it shows that we can use these ground incursions for quite a while while the hostage situation is developing, meaning we can wait for the ground offensive. The last night and the night before, the infantry went into Gaza with tanks and this is an achievement in itself because there are many obstacles prepared for the entry of our forces and especially obstacles against tanks. Those tanks managed to destroy outposts equipped with anti-tank missiles so they could destroy these outposts before those missiles were shot at them. The main purpose of these incursions is to open access into Gaza for the main offensive to open like a road. Of course, this road is not marked and we only know where it is and around it we put mines and booby traps for the terrorists so they don't really know where is this road. With these roads, we're going to need much more than two now. We've opened like two inland roads for the main offensive. That's one of the purposes and another purpose is, of course, to inflict losses to the terrorists and also to gain intelligence and spot, of course, entrances to the tunnels. Last night terrorists came out as soon as they put their nose out of the tunnel. They were eliminated but the most important is that we knew where the tunnel was which also allows us to experiment intelligent ammunition that is a new thing. It's a little surprise for the Hamas that we have in store of how this ammunition can go in the tunnel and make its way through the tunnel and hit the targets inside. All this is being experimented. A few little technological things are being put there and left on in the field that will help us for the bigger surprise that we're preparing them. Something that is more technological but that needs little relays on the ground. All this put together makes it very, very important. This little incursion is actually super important for the success of the main ground entry. Does waiting for this ground entry, as you put it, help Israel or not? What is the sentiment on the ground among soldiers who have seen what unfolded on the 7th of October and may feel that it's time to go out and defend the country to make sure that it doesn't happen again? Does waiting help that kind of feeling on the ground? No, of course not. There's a frustration among the soldiers. It's not only the soldiers, the whole people of Israel. We're all wanting to go and do the job but we have noticed and we have learned that even though we want to do the job it's not necessarily ready to enter very fast because unless there is an opportunity on the operational tactical level that shouldn't be missed and then we should go in. But otherwise, the waiting is just, it's good for everybody. The waiting is good for the hostage situation. We can allow for waiting a little longer. It's good also for our own soldiers because the more we wait, you see this incursion, the more we wait, the more we gather intelligence, the more we train for what we're going to have to do, the more we prepare logistically. So all this will limit the risks to the lives of our soldiers. They're starting to understand that even though there is a frustration and this frustration is filtering up to the generals and the generals not so great trust in the political level is filtering down to the soldiers. So it's not a very healthy situation but so far. So of course all this will be limited in time. I would say like a few days at the most and also three, four days. And the Hamas is going to anyway cynically just prolong these negotiations. They're going to make it last because the more they negotiate, the more they manage to delay our offensive. In the end, it's still a good thing. I'll tell you, for 20 years, we've waited to do this. We could have done this 20 years ago. So we can wait a few more days. Well, Yerushalmi, if you could wait just a few more minutes. We've got more to discuss. I first want to go, though, to our correspondent, Robert Swift. He joins us from southern Israel. So Rob, tomorrow marking three weeks since the Hamas killing rampage in the south. We know that the IDF conducted this limited incursion overnight. What update can you share from where you are right now? That's right. So this was a raid involving tanks, infantry and engineering units. And just to explain the context of this, essentially in military terms, a raid is a limited capturing of the ground in order to complete certain objectives with the troops then withdrawing afterwards. It's understood that the objectives that the Israeli military was conducting there was to attack various Hamas defensive positions, particularly anti-tank missiles and elements of Hamas's command on the ground there at the tactical level. This is likely all part of essentially preparing the ground for the next stage. Now, this is the second of these raids that have been conducted in the last 24 hours. And this suggests that Israel is maybe getting closer to the stage where it launches the full ground operation. Now, there have been previous raids into Gaza since hostilities began, but those were more special forces raids which had a focus on the hostages. Some of them retrieved bodies of Israelis who had fallen and been seized into Gaza, but the operation that took place last night and the one the previous day, they're more about setting the ground. They also come after a large-scale bombardment last night. We were on the ground close to the border and the amount of fire that Israel was putting in, first with artillery and then later with airstrikes and drones, it was a larger-scale bombardment being down here on the border. And this, combined with the two raids, like I say, suggests that Israel is getting ready to that launch stage. Talking about the hostages, Israel is denying reports of a deal to give fuel to the Strip in exchange for the release of the hostages. What more is known about efforts right now to make sure that these hostages get home and that they get home safely? That's right. Essentially, there's an argument over the fuel with humanitarian causes inside Gaza Strip saying that more fuel is required for them to be able to conduct humanitarian work, but Israel, very concerned that that fuel is likely to go to Hamas and that Hamas is already seizing and monopolizing the fuel that does remain within the Gaza Strip. Now, Qatar has been very much involved in negotiations behind the scenes with regards to the negotiations and was involved in the release of the four hostages who've previously made it out of the Gaza Strip. And obviously, as we get closer to the potential ground invasion by Israel, the situation for those hostages becomes increasingly more precarious. Rob, you spoke about the rocket fire still emanating from the Strip as of yesterday. Give us a sense of ideas around the scale of the Hamas weapons arsenal right now. It's nearly three weeks in and there are still rockets to be sent from the Gaza Strip towards Israeli territory. Yeah, that's correct. A lot of people ask the question, how are they still able to fire these rockets? First of all, why has the IDF not struck their rockets, preventing them from firing, and how do they still have ammunition? But these are rocket firing positions which are hidden throughout a very tightly packed urban area. So they're not easy to find, and obviously they'll have multiple locations from which they can fire from. And it's understood that Hamas's arsenal is significant. I saw some reports yesterday suggesting that at the current rate of fire, Hamas could continue its rocket launches for at least a month or two at the current rate. So that gives you an idea of the scale at which they're able to continue this fire. That in itself may come to an end as Israel goes in on the ground, however, as the Hamas will be unable to fire at the same rate, perhaps. Watching all those developments in southern Israel correspondent Robert Swift will be coming back to you for more updates. Thank you for now, Rob. Still with me in studio, Raphael, Yoroshalmi, and your take on exactly what we were talking about right now with Rob, and the capacity that Hamas still has nearly three weeks in to keep sending rockets towards civilians here in Israel. Yes, this capacity was built over the years, which is another nice and big mistake of some Israeli governments to have let the Hamas strengthen itself in that way over the years. This being said, it's not that easy to destroy. First of all, the ammunition is one thing and the launching part is another thing. Some of the launching only requires a motorcycle, sometimes a truck, so it's mobile. It can change. It can hide in an orchard. They usually shoot at night. These are, of course, the smaller missiles and rockets, but from a truck you can shoot a rocket that can reach Ashdod. For the larger parts that can reach Tel Aviv and inside Israel, you need a real launching pad made of concrete. These ones are built mostly in the courtyards of schools hospitals, so even if we know where they are, we cannot hit them. It's only when we come in the ground that we can destroy them. It's too dangerous for the collateral damage, and they know that. And some of them are, of course, underground and very well-dissimulated. So it takes time. It takes intelligence and it takes surgical operation to destroy them. We are destroying them, but there are many of them. This is the same with the Kisbala. The strength of the power of the Kisbala is 150,000 missiles. It's got hundreds of launching pads, meaning they can launch quite a few at the same time. Which is, of course, as you know, the Iron Dome is 95% success, so 5% will get through. So it's going to take time. People have to understand that you can't just destroy overnight all these places. Also, the Kisbala will, sorry, the Hamas, but also the Kisbala and the Hamas will save ammo and launching pads for further stages of the war. They're not going to spend everything now, of course, so they're going to save that. And of course, also for the final stage when they feel that they really, like, maybe might lose the war, then shoot a lot on Israel and cover the escape, because what will happen, they'll cover the escape of the leaders and chiefs who will run out towards Egypt or attack hostages in exchange for their lives. Well, talking about Egypt and unusual development early on this morning, a missile struck the resort town of Taba, a medical facility there. Six people are injured. Interesting reports because it's vague as to where this missile could have come from. So share with us what exactly was going down. It is vague in the sense that it's a small caliber short-range projectile. So it's been difficult to know who shot it and from where. So it could be from Sinai because it's happened before. In Sinai, there are Hamas affiliated terrorist cells, but there are also Al-Qaeda and Daesh affiliated terrorist cells that create quite a lot of havoc and problems for the Egyptian army there in Sinai. So it might have come from there in solidarity with the Hamas. Or it came really from Gaza shot by the Hamas towards Elat and it fell short. This only shows that what the Biden administration is afraid of could really happen, meaning the extension of the conflict to other theaters of operation. The Egyptians said that once they will know who and from where the missile was shot, they will react accordingly. But we see also last night that there was another extension a little of the conflict when the Americans hit Syrian and Iranian interests inside Syria. So it's a very good signal anyway from the United States Army to show that even America is not interested in an extension of conflict and destabilization in the region. They have a strong stand and they are showing it, they're not afraid and they shot at even Iranian interests inside Syria. She's a very good signal. The United States is pressuring Israel to hold off for now or delay its ground offensive so it can sort out its American bases at various sites across the Middle East. Yes, they're advising us and they're asking for a favor. They're not really ordering us. I think Joe Biden himself has made it clear that we have a right to defend ourselves and to defend ourselves the way we see and we've come out with a press communique where they didn't ask for ceasefire for instance. So people understand that we have to do what we have to do. On the other hand, if we can oblige and if Biden administration who's supporting us so strongly desires to give more of a chance to hostage negotiations and preparing their troops and bringing more support to the American troops already all these, if we can do it we'll have to do, of course, do it. I remind you that we are waiting now even a bigger support with more Iron Dome batteries coming from the United States so I think that we can only be grateful and the Americans do understand that we can only be so grateful as we can and at some point we might have to do what we have to do. And certainly those Iron Dome's are more necessary than ever the South potentially in the North as well and we wait to see what kind of negotiations will be fruitful in terms of helping with hostages, a very worrying situation and heart breaking to think that with each delay that the pain and the trauma that is going on right now inside the Gaza Strip it's difficult to imagine. Raphael Yoroshalmi former senior intelligence officer in the IDF, thank you as always for being here I appreciate your insight. Nearly three weeks since the Hamas killing rampage in southern Israel and still more bodies are being identified, the death toll is at more than 1,400 and many families are still waiting for news on their relatives and friends as we've just been discussing here in studio, those who are being held hostage in Gaza. Our Orisha Pere went to a special village set up to help survivors of the terror onslaught. Let's take a look. It's been two weeks since the horrific Hamas onslaught in southern Israel. Many are still trying to pick up the pieces. The Emile Rehabilitation Center north of Tel Aviv is one of those places. It opened its gates to survivors of the massacre at Reim Nova Festival on October 7th. The people who were at this party took psychedelic drugs. They didn't land on the ground. They are here, but they are not here. The main treatment is logotherapy based on the method of Victor Franco. He used the empowerment of internal forces and creating a shell that wraps around the patient. One of the survivors Natalie Bloom shared her story with I24 News and speaks about her personal battle after October 7th. I saw the terrorists with my own eyes. I had severe anxiety attacks. I saw my sister and she looked like a terrorist to me. I looked at her and I saw a terrorist.  I understood that I can't deal with anything. My sister held me and I screamed, stop, stop. I don't want to die. I understood that I needed mental treatment. Emile, founder of the Center, considers himself a rebel and opposes some of the mainstream mental care methods. Although some may see this approach as controversial, many of his patients feel grateful and some even continue to work in this village. What Emile does here is he doesn't put my mind and soul and body in a cage. He lets my soul be free here. He lets my mind be free. I am allowed to experience a new way of life. And if I don't like it, the door is open. The massacre at Rayeem will most likely continue to haunt everyone who was involved. The combination with hallucinogenic drugs make the treatment even more challenging. Emile and his crew have a message to the thousands of survivors. You're not alone and if it's not here then try finding another place that can let you have that peace of mind that you need so mad right now. Yedidim is the biggest volunteer organization in Israel. More than 60,000 volunteers are involved. And since the start of the war nearly three weeks ago now, the organization has been focused on helping out displaced residents, organizations and even military units. More in this report. This small school in the central city of Yadikba has become the temporary headquarters of Yedidim, the Hebrew word for friends and to the biggest volunteer organization in Israel. The organization is known mostly for helping cars stuck on the road, but now does much more. We are acting on three main levels. The first level concerns the people's spirit. We are organizing barbecues and military bases. We are taking care of the families. The second level is helping the public. We fix security rooms. We deliver food and supplies. The third level is the front. We understand what they lack and we supply them with everything they need. I-24 News joined a team on their daily mission. Our first stop is in a makeshift military base near the southern city of Ofakim. A group of reserve soldiers are asking for ratchet straps. Look, I don't try to find what things are missing here, but as someone who serves for two years in this unit, I know that whenever I need something I can turn to Yedidim organization. The second stop is in Bersheva where the team joins another group of volunteers on their way to fix the window of a security room. One member of the Bersheva team tells us about his experience on October 7th. Starting from 5 p.m. Saturday we started to help the forces to collect the bodies from the party at Reim. I was there until Monday morning. In the organization's warehouse we see a variety of objects donated to soldiers and civilians from simple shirts to drones worth thousands of dollars. This is perhaps another example of the rare spirit of giving, helping and caring in the Israeli society today. Incredible seeing the scale of volunteer work happening across the country right now and that is where we wrap up this breaking news edition. I'm Benita Levine in Tel Aviv. Our rolling coverage continues shortly. Stay tuned. Officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking. Within 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped. Anything. Entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds. Awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong. Everyone is showing up. This is the unity. In news edition I'm Benita Levine coming to you live from Tel Aviv. The fate of at least 224 hostages being held in the Gaza Strip terror group remains unclear on day 21 of the war with a Hamas delegation in Moscow announcing that no hostages will be freed without a ceasefire. The message follows a meeting in the Russian capital between representatives of the terror group Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov and Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister Ali Bagheri-Khani. This all happening as Qatar says it's working to secure a deal. Now the hostages come from 25 different countries. They range in age from a 9 month old baby to an 89 year old man. They were abducted on Saturday the 7th of October during the Hamas killing rampage in southern Israel which saw more than 1400 people shot tortured and butchered at a music festival in several Kibbutzim, Moshevin and bases. Meanwhile questions remain about the pending full scale response by Israel and when that will happen. IDF troops conducting a limited land incursion into the Gaza Strip overnight seen as laying the groundwork for future moves. Defense Minister Joav Galant reiterating that Israel will win the war. He says that Israel's next 75 years largely depends on it. So let's start with the latest on the ground. We go to our correspondent Robert Swift. He joins us from southern Israel. And the IDF has struck hundreds of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad targets in the Gaza Strip since the start of this war and now a limited ground incursion overnight. What details are known? What can you share? Well, the last few weeks that you've just mentioned they are continuing as we speak and about the last hour there's been maybe six airstrikes conducted behind me but I'll just step aside and you can see the view that we have here towards the north of the Gaza Strip. While we've been here for the last few hours there's pretty much been constant jets over our head and every now and again one of them drops is payload and we can hear an explosion in some of the buildings behind us. The IDF went into Gaza in the early hours of this morning and that was the second time that they've conducted this sort of raid into Gaza second time in the last 24 hours. Now this was a limited raid in terms of they went in temporarily to attack targets in the inside Gaza Strip using infantry tanks and engineering equipment backed up by Israeli aircraft and drones and it was temporary in nature so once they'd completed their objectives they withdrew and so those troops are no longer on the ground inside Gaza and this is all seen as preparations for the upcoming land invasion by the military into the north of Gaza Strip. Interestingly there's just been one piece of polling conducted saying that there's been a dip in the Israeli public's support for an immediate invasion with about 49% of the public saying that they were not convinced that Israel's military should immediately go in. This is a reduction in support as of about a week ago although bearing in mind it's just one piece of polling and it might suggest that the danger that the hostages are in if and when Israel goes into the ground it's becoming increasingly clear to the Israeli public because obviously those people are in Hamas's hands and if the conflict is to escalate as Israeli troops go into Gaza then the risk to those hostages obviously increases. Thank you so much correspondent Robert Swift live from Southern Israel we will be coming back to you Rob for regular updates. Thank you. Now for more we welcome to studio a retired Colonel Dr. Jacques Nerea deputy head of assessment in the Israeli military intelligence and former foreign policy advisor to Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin thank you Jacques for being here in studio so many developments to discuss. I want to start with the hostages this meeting in Moscow a low-level Hamas delegation nonetheless they are saying no release no freedom for hostages unless there is a ceasefire what do you make of this message right now? You know Hamas has said has just declared the obvious everybody knows that I mean from the history of wars and conflicts that exchange of prisoners happens only either in a ceasefire or after the end of hostilities so there's nothing new in that and we know that what we are trying right now to differentiate between this is what Hamas is doing between the soldiers he has abducted and the civilians we are talking about a deal concerning the civilians and there is a possibility but he is asking for he has conditions that right now Israel cannot meet like providing fuel or other humanitarian aid that are not included in what's happening today in what's being channeled into Gaza so I think that the chances of reaching an agreement are very slim and beyond the fact that they are saying that they need a ceasefire in order to complete this exchange of prisoners or the abducted people the idea is that they want 6,000 prisoners held in Israeli jails this is what it's all about let's be clear these prisoners are not in jail for traffic offenses these are convicted terrorists criminals, criminals blood on their head definitely criminals of the highest degree of criminality so this is not people who are held in custody because of their political views no, not at all so 6,000 of them they want them to be released to just empty our jails from Palestinian presence and this is obviously impossible to meet could agree to such to such a deal Shaq Stay with us I want to bring in retired Colonel Mary Eisen director of the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism at Rahman University joining us from Ramata Sharron, thank you so much for your time, you're hearing this conversation concerned obviously across the country about these hostages they include children, they include the elderly peace activists from the region people from 25 different countries and this Hamas delegation albeit a low level delegation announcing no hostages will be freed without a ceasefire we're discussing what it's going to take for the freedom to be secured these hostages the civilians that are being held your thoughts on what it's going to take Qatar says it's involved what does it look like from your perspective I'm not the person who right now is going to make everybody feel better and I say that because I really think we need to face reality so tell us the reality tell us 230 families have been informed that their dear ones from a nine month baby through an 89 year old man are held hostage but Hamas has not released anything do we know what they are how they are we know for sure that they took when they went in they took live hostages they also took bodies with them part of the actions that the IDF has been trying to do to help us get more clear because the terror organization has not said anything they are very much trying to manipulate the media they want us to show as much as we can and we should our hostages but they've never said how they are they've never said and I I'm sorry to the viewers if they're alive at all it's three weeks into it it's very fearful that Hamas is doing that same media manipulation we're focusing on the four women that they released and not on the 230 that we have no idea what their condition is that they're focusing on the civilians that they are hiding behind inside the Gaza Strip that ceasefire that they're asking for let them send out right now 230 videos of 230 cut beautiful babies 10-year-old men who are showing themselves as being held live and well and then maybe we can talk about it and I say that with a heavy heart because they're not going to participate in that they send people to Moscow they send people to the Middle East they are a terror organization and that is the crux of the challenges the IDF in that sense has said consistently that to get to the hostages that the only thing that we kind of know is that underground subterranean hundreds of kilometers event but that's not the only thing Hamas came in and you described it so well at the opening in the most murderous butchering attack murdering torturing and saying I'm taking the nine month baby I'm murdering the mother and it isn't just for hostages it's also about making sure that a terror organization cannot do an attack a murderous attack such atrocities and at the end what they do is ransom hostages and as Jacques said before get the 6000 prisoners that were arrested put on trial and put into jail that this isn't tit for tat and we cannot view it that way and I'm saying that as a mother that I cannot imagine what these families are going through as you say it's such a heavy heart for everybody across the country waiting to hear a word but as you say it could be part of the Hamas strategy in terms of giving information that may not be accurate not being upfront about exactly what is happening and I want to bring Jacques in here about what it means for this limited land incursion that happened into the Gaza Strip overnight in effect laying the groundwork for something bigger but when that invasion does happen how does the fact that these hostages may be hidden in tunnels dispersed across the Gaza Strip how does that land incursion get impacted by making sure that if the hostages are alive that they stay alive and hopefully can be saved hopefully I would say that also with a heavy heart when we began this campaign we had two goals one was to eradicate the Hamas and in parallel to free the hostages well due to public pressure to the pressure exerted by the families the goals the priorities have to release the hostages and fight to eradicate Hamas and this doesn't marry together it doesn't marry together because if you want to reach your final goal and liberate Israel from this evil then we don't have the choice but to fight now what we have seen on the ground is the fifth incursion into Gaza and we know exactly from what we see on the videos released that there is a pattern that Israel is conducting the troops are entering with engineers in front and then you have the tanks and you have mechanized troops you have infantry and all is covered by attack helicopters and drones and we have seen for instance when this column entered Gaza that terrorists got out from the tunnels and tried to fight and they were killed all killed so this is what's happening in fact those incursions are meant to test the defenses of Hamas and we might be surprised to see that there are no defenses in some places and this is where the thrust is going to be held so when the question is when I think that our patience is almost finished and I think that in the next 48-72 hours it's either a deal on part of the hostages or we just go all in Jacques, Mary please stay with us we've got much more to discuss but first I want to go up north our correspondent Hamda Salhout is in northern Israel and Hamda we've been discussing this big meeting in Moscow this Hamas delegation also at that meeting the Deputy Foreign Minister of Russia also Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister talk to us about the players here Iran, Russia, Hamas and of course the developments up north there what is happening across in Lebanon right now Well Benira let's begin here along the Lebanese border fire is actually still burning inside Lebanese territory from Israeli strikes yesterday the Lebanese civil defense still really unable to get a lot of those blazes under control because of the magnitude that have burned we're talking trees, buildings all of it engulfed in flames so while the authorities there work to fight that fire the smoke and plumes are actually spilling in to northern Israel Hezbollah has now claimed that 47 combatants on their side have now died since the exchanges of fire began between Israel and Hezbollah along the northern border but additionally we're seeing four from Hamas and four from Palestinian Islamic Jihad since October 7th in the exchanges of fire in the north now regarding this meeting between Hamas representative the Iranian deputy foreign minister and a Russian official in Moscow yesterday this just goes to show that Hamas actually does have a lot of strength and they do have allies in the region and even beyond that so for them a meeting like this is quite a morale boost we also heard from Ismail Hania yesterday the head of Hamas speaking in a lengthy statement calling on the world to give Hamas more support and meetings like this are exactly what he's talking about while he was talking about a wide variety of support in terms of funding weapons and other types of means this is exactly what he's referring to to give them that legitimate stake in the game to give them that voice to give them that seat at the table now the Israelis of course are not taking kindly to this neither are the Americans the ground invasion inside of the Gaza Strip is something that the world has essentially been waiting for and since last week in the general public in Israel the polling has gone down for a ground invasion you now have less than 50% of the population in favor of that ground operation not only because it's been 21 days because of fears as to what can happen as a result of what is going to happen and what is going to happen specifically here along the northern border you've got Hezbollah you've got it on that are saying all bets are off and that there are simply no guarantees to an Israel enters on foot for this tunnel type of warfare that they're hoping to achieve inside of the Gaza Strip so while all eyes are on the south people are still watching out for our correspondent come to Salhut in northern Israel appreciate the update thank you and still with our focus on players abroad and Moscow's potential role in the latest developments in the Middle East our senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Ultiman has more on the international reaction to this war reaction at the UN and particularly out of Russia and China what America is for they are against Russia against China keeping on with their policy of taking sides with Israel's opponents on Wednesday Russia coming to the United Nations Security Council with a resolution on the war that got only China's vote and two others the Russian resolution voted upon today sought to tie Israel's hands preventing us from eliminating a threat to our existence would Moscow or Beijing be given a right to face with the same threat I believe so the positions at the UN Security Council highlight just how much this war has become a great power struggle what started as a set of horrific local massacres kicked up the threat of a regional war and brought on Russia and China who saw an opening to take aim at the United States here Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov speaking from Tehran the US is one of the leaders of those who are already intervening which is manifested in the deployment of two aircraft carrier groups the more such proactive measures are taken by any state the greater the risk and danger of conflict escalation for Israel a key question going forward how to relate to Russia and China Israel has tried to boost economic ties with Beijing going as far as it can without angering the United States Israel is famously tiptoed around the war in Ukraine with the familiar arguments about keeping freedom of action in the skies of Syria and protecting the Jewish community in Russia itself now Israel needs America's support and the support of the political center across the west while Russia and China are explicitly siding with Israel's opponents pushing Israel ever more into Washington's arms still with us retired Colonel Mary Eisen and we just saw in that report President Joe Biden and Benjamin Netanyahu hugging that was obviously from the recent visit from the US leader looking at the international reaction all around there are reports that the US is pressuring Israel to delay the ground invasion as it bolsters its defenses at various spaces in the Middle East Benny Gantz in the war cabinet Israel is going to ultimately make its own decisions can Israel afford to wait on its next move because the US wants it to ostensibly is that a possibility is that viable? I'm taking the word you just said ostensibility a word that I probably would never be able to say and say who says that the US has said that we have to stop I've actually listened and I don't say I don't think the US has we have to stop the listening to the spokespeople and to President Biden and to Congress and overall it's they're separating between that crushing of Hamas that needs to be done and that is because right now the US is already under attack when we say that they're pushed into our arms we're in this together Israel was attacked by a horrific terror attack on October 7th and we're three weeks into it they're still attacking they're still firing rockets but if we connected also to the north and to Hezbollah and go further away to Iran and to the different Shiite proxies the United States of America in a variety of different places in the Middle East is already under attack so I don't see right now the United States telling us don't do it the United States I think right now is bettering its position is of the absolute understanding that this is not Israel just against Hamas it is Israel against a terror organization that is connected to Iran even if it's not a direct Iranian proxy and if Hamas in any way succeeds if they're shown as winning that is the worst news ever not just for the United States but for all the west and by the way for Russia and China as well so when I look at that Benita I again I don't think we're being whole held back I think that it's complex I think that the hostages and our heart goes out are the most complex part about it but this is about choosing our time our way doing it hand in hand with enormous cooperation with the United States and additional allies all of the other voices around to me are the ones trying to make a case that is not relevant at this stage I want to bring you in here because I'm curious if this invasion gets pushed out more and more how does it impact soldiers on the ground they all saw and understand what happened on the 7th of October the carnage that was unleashed in southern parts of the country and they want to defend the country and make sure that this can't happen again how does waiting pushing out the response impact the atmosphere the intensity between soldiers who are waiting to react you know Benita it's been 50 years before I mean since Israel last mobilized such a huge quantity of soldiers so most of them are not trained not ready for combat not they have problems with equipment so we need the time to prepare we need to just train them again and to put them in combat conditions this takes time now if you remember in 1967 we spent three weeks waiting and we are at the end of the third week right now and as I said we have to decide what is our path where are we trying to reach if we want to eliminate Hamas we don't have the choice but to begin our ground offensive now concerning Russia and China I suggest that those two have no moral lessons to give us the Russians with the Chechens and the Chinese with the Uyghurs holding more than 2 million Chinese in concentration camps so these are not the people that can teach us anything in morality so I think that this has to be remembered by all who are involved in it and America is under attack yes but it's not the first time it is attacked in Iraq in Syria and the Americans have responded three times at least three times I remember in February and June of 21 in August of 22 in March of 23 and now so this is really this is not the first time that the Americans are just under attack from Iranian proxies and I think that right now in this context they understand that the axis of evil is preparing and we have to just counter it Mary I want to bring you in on the rhetoric the threats out of Ghassan Nasrallah particularly they're not going to be waiting on the sidelines nor is Iran also saying they're not going to be waiting and not getting involved depending on what transpires in terms of this ground invasion your confidence that Israel is in a position to handle several threats at once in the coming weeks the IDF has been preparing itself the security establishment has been preparing itself against Hezbollah threat for a decade and we were not in that sense noticing the horrific Hamas threat and we have paid a horrific price because of that on Saturday the 7th and again in the following three weeks this didn't end on October 7th Hezbollah right now is testing waters Iran behind it also they're very much aware that we are prepared that we have evacuated communities that we have brought in troops that we are constantly and I follow these in numbers over the last three weeks because Hezbollah has been testing against Israel the latest count that I saw at the end it's about 47 Hezbollah terrorists have been killed in the last three weeks in their different attempts against Israel rocket fire anti-tank fire drone suicide drones into Israel all of that along the immediate front they are I think and here I'm saying I don't want to say I hope because after October 7th my hopes have been dashed but Hezbollah lives in Lebanon Hezbollah is not the only player in Lebanon as opposed to Hamas on the Gaza Strip which is why it's so complicated and Hezbollah in Lebanon let's say that they have 50% perhaps support inside Lebanon 50% do not support them in the actions of the IDF that are very clear and ready and targeted and again war is ugly and there will be casualties on both sides but our capacity and capability to address the Hezbollah threat is full and I think Hezbollah knows that. Parting words just a few seconds Jacques. In 1948 we were 600,000 Israelis living in Israel and we had 1% of our population killed during the war of independence we held against five Arab armies and we won retired Colonel Dr. Jacques Neria former deputy head of assessment in the Israeli military intelligence and retired Colonel Mary Eisen director at the international institute for counterterrorism. Appreciate your insight at this time. Thank you both for being with us on breaking news edition and no doubt we will have lots more to unpack in the coming days and weeks. 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In news edition I'm Benita from Tel Aviv the fate of at least 224 hostages being held in the Gaza Strip by the Hamas terror group remains unclear on day 21 of the war with a Hamas delegation in Moscow announcing that no hostages will be freed without a ceasefire the message follows a meeting in the Russian capital between representatives of the terror group Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov and Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister Ali Bagheri Khani this all happening as Qatar says it's working to secure a deal. Now the hostages come from 25 different countries they range in age from a 9 month old baby to an 89 year old man they were abducted on Saturday the 7th of October during the Hamas killing rampage in southern Israel which saw more than 1,400 people shot, tortured and butchered at a music festival and at several Kibbutzim Moshevin and bases. Meanwhile questions remain about the pending full scale response by Israel and when that will happen. IDF troops conducting a limited land incursion into the Gaza Strip overnight seen as laying the groundwork for future moves. Defense Minister Yoav Galant reiterating that Israel will win the war he says the country's next 75 years largely depends on it. So let's start with the latest on the ground we go to our correspondent Robert Swift he joins us from southern Israel and the IDF Robert has struck hundreds of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad targets since the start of this war and now a limited ground incursion overnight. What details are known what can you share? Yeah indeed so those strikes that you've just mentioned they are continuing as we speak in about the last hour there's been maybe six airstrikes conducted behind me but I'll just step aside and you can see the view that we have here towards the north of the Gaza Strip while we've been here for the last few hours there's pretty much been an explosion over our head and every now and again one of them drops is payload and we can hear an explosion in some of the buildings behind us. Now as you said the IDF went into Gaza yesterday in the early hours of this morning and that was the second time that they've conducted this sort of raid into Gaza second time in the last 24 hours now this was a limited raid in terms of temporarily to attack targets in the inside Gaza Strip using infantry, tanks and engineering equipment backed up by Israeli aircraft and drones and it was temporary in nature so one side completed their objectives they withdrew and so those troops are no longer on the ground inside Gaza and this is all seen as preparations for the upcoming land invasion by the military into the north of Gaza Strip interestingly there's just been one piece of polling conducted saying that there's been a dip in the Israeli public's support for an immediate invasion with about 49% of the public saying that they were not convinced that Israel's military should immediately go in. This is a reduction in support as of about a week ago although bearing in it's just one piece of polling and it might suggest that the danger that the hostages are in if and when Israel goes into the ground is becoming increasingly clear to the Israeli public because obviously those people are in Hamas's hands and if the conflict is to escalate as Israeli troops go into Gaza then the risk to those hostages obviously increases. Thank you so much correspondent Robert Swift live from southern Israel we will be coming back to you Rob for regular updates. Thank you now for more we welcome to studio retired colonel Dr Jacques Naria former deputy head of assessment in the Israeli military intelligence and former foreign policy advisor to prime minister Yitzhak Rabin. Thank you Jacques for being here in studio. So many developments to discuss. I want to start with the hostages this meeting in Moscow a low level Hamas has just declared a ceasefire. What do you make of this message right now? Well you know Hamas has said what the has just declared the obvious everybody knows that from the history of wars and conflicts that exchange of prisoners happens only after either in a ceasefire or after the end of hostilities. So there's nothing new in that and we know that we are trying right now to differentiate between this is what Hamas is doing between the soldiers he has abducted and the civilians and we are talking about a deal concerning the civilians and there there is a possibility but he's asking for he has conditions that right now Israel cannot meet like I mean providing fuel or other humanitarian aid that that are not included in what is being channeled into Gaza. So I think that the chances of reaching an agreement are very slim and beyond the fact that they are saying that they need a ceasefire in order to complete this exchange of prisoners or the abducted people the idea is that they want 6,000 prisoners held in Israeli jails this is what it's all about. Let's be clear these prisoners are not in jail for traffic offences these are convicted terrorists. Criminals, criminals with blood on their head definitely criminals of the highest degree of criminality so this is not people who are held in custody because of their political views no not at all so 6,000 of them they want them to be released to just empty our jails from Palestinian presence and this is obviously impossible to meet. I mean no one could agree to such a deal. Shaq Stay with us I want to bring in retired Colonel Mary Eisen director of the International Institute for Counterterrorism at Rahman University joining us from Ramata Sharron thank you so much for your time you're hearing this conversation I'm concerned obviously across the country about these hostages they include children they include the elderly peace activists from the region people from 25 different countries and this Hamas delegation albeit a low level delegation announcing no hostages will be freed without a ceasefire we're discussing what it's going to take for the freedom to be secured these hostages the civilians that are being held your thoughts on what it's going to take Hamas says it's involved what does it look like from your perspective I'm not the person who right now is going to make everybody feel better and I say that because I really think we need to face reality so tell us the reality tell us 230 families have been informed that their dear ones from a nine month baby through an 89 year old man are held hostage but Hamas has not released anything do we know what they are how they are we know for sure that they took when they went in they took live hostages they also took bodies with them part of the actions that the IDF has been trying to do to help us get more clear because the terror organization has not said anything they are very much trying to manipulate the media they want us to show as much as we can and we should our hostages but they've never said how they are they've never said and I'm sorry to the viewers if they're alive at all it's three weeks into it and I'm very fearful that Hamas is doing that same media manipulation we're focusing on the four women that they released and not on the 230 that we have no idea what their condition is that they're focusing on the civilians that they are hiding behind inside the Gaza Strip that ceasefire that they're asking for let them send out right now 230 videos of 230 cut beautiful babies and 89 year old men who are showing themselves as being held live and well and then maybe we can talk about it and I say that with a heavy heart because they're not going to participate in that they send people to Moscow they send people to the Middle East they are a terror organization and that is the crux of the challenges the IDF in that sense has said consistently to get to the hostages that the only thing that we kind of know is that they're all over the Gaza Strip in that underground subterranean hundreds of kilometers event but that's not the only thing Hamas came in and you described it so well at the opening in the most murderous butchering attack murdering torturing and saying you know I'm taking the nine month baby I'm murdering and it isn't just the hostages it's also about making sure that a terror organization cannot do an attack a murderous attack such atrocities and at the end what they do is ransom hostages and as Jacques said before get the 6000 prisoners that were arrested put on trial and put into jail this isn't tit for tat and we cannot view it that way and I'm saying that as a mother that I cannot imagine what these families are going through as you say it's such a heavy heart for everybody across the country waiting to hear a word but as you say it could be part of this Hamas strategy in terms of giving information that may not be accurate not being upfront about exactly what is happening and I want to bring Jacques in here about what it means for this limited land incursion that happened into the Gaza Strip overnight in effect laying the groundwork for something bigger but when that invasion does happen how does the fact that these hostages may be hidden in tunnels dispersed across the Gaza Strip how does that land incursion get impacted by making sure that if the hostages are alive that they stay alive and hopefully can be saved hopefully I would say that also with a heavy heart when we began this campaign we had two goals one was to eradicate Hamas and in parallel to free the hostages well due to public pressure to the pressure exerted by the families the things I mean the goals the priorities have to release the hostages and fight to eradicate Hamas and this doesn't marry together it doesn't marry together because if you want to reach a certain goal and liberate Israel from this evil then we don't have the choice but to fight now what we have seen on the ground this is the fifth incursion into Gaza and we know exactly from what we see on the videos released that there is a pattern that Israel is conducting the troops are entering with engineers in front and then you have the tanks and you have mechanized troops infantry and always covered by attack helicopters and drones and we have seen yesterday for instance when this column entered Gaza that terrorists got out from the tunnels and tried to fight and they were killed all killed so this is what's happening in fact those incursions are meant to test the defenses of Hamas and we might be surprised to see there's no defenses in some places and this is where the the thrust is going to be held so when the question is when I think that our patience is almost finished and I think that in the next 48-72 hours it's either a deal on part of the hostages or we just go all in Jacques, Mary please stay with us we've got much more to discuss but first I want to go up north our correspondent Hamda Salhout is meeting this big meeting in Moscow this Hamas delegation also at that meeting the deputy foreign minister of Russia also Iran's deputy foreign minister talk to us about the players here Iran, Russia, Hamas and of course the developments up north there what is happening across in Lebanon right now Well Benira let's begin here along the Lebanese border fire is actually still burning inside from Israeli strikes yesterday the Lebanese civil defense still really unable to get a lot of those blazes under control because of the sheer magnitude that have burned we're talking trees buildings all of it engulfed in flames so while the authorities their work to fight that fire the smoke and plumes are actually spilling in to northern Israel Hezbollah has now claimed that 47 combatants on their side have now died since the exchanges the fire began between Israel and Hezbollah along the northern border but additionally we're seeing four from Hamas and four from Palestinian Islamic Jihad also killed since October 7th in the exchanges of fire in the north now regarding this meeting between Hamas representative the Iranian deputy foreign minister and a Russian official in Moscow yesterday this just goes to show that Hamas actually does have a lot of strength and they do have allies in the region even beyond that so for them a meeting like this is quite a morale boost we also heard from Ismail Hania yesterday the head of Hamas speaking in a lengthy statement calling on the world to give Hamas more support and meetings like this are exactly what he's talking about now while he was talking about a wide variety of support in terms of funding weapons and and other types of means this is exactly what he's referring to to give them that legitimate stake in the game to give them that voice to give them that seat at the table now the Israelis of course are not taking too kindly to this neither are the Americans the ground invasion inside of the Gaza Strip is something that the world has essentially been waiting for and since last week in the general public in Israel the the polling has gone down for a ground invasion you now have less than 50% of the population in favor of that ground operation not only because it's been 21 days because of fears as to what can happen as a result specifically here along the northern border you've got Hezbollah you've got it on that are saying all bets are off and that there are simply no guarantees to when Israel enters on foot for this tunnel type of warfare that they're hoping to achieve inside of the Gaza Strip so while all eyes are on the south people are still watching out for the north because it could erupt into a much larger conflict at any time Benita. Thank you so much we will be coming back to our correspondent Khamdes al-Hut in northern Israel appreciate the update thank you and still with our focus on players abroad and Moscow's potential role in the latest developments in the Middle East our senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Ultiman has more on the international reaction to this war reaction at the UN and particularly out of Russia and China. What America is for they are against Russia and China keeping on with their policy of taking sides with Israel's opponents on Wednesday Russia coming to the United Nations Security Council with a resolution on the war that got only China's vote and two others the Russian resolution voted upon today sought to tie Israel's hands preventing us from eliminating a threat to our existence would Moscow or Beijing be given a right to self-defense if faced with the same threat I believe so. The positions at the UN Security Council highlight just how much this war has become a great power struggle. What started as a set of horrific local massacres kicked up the threat of a regional war and brought Russia and China who saw an opening to take aim at the United States here Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov speaking from Tehran. The US is one of the leaders of those who are already intervening which is manifested in the deployment of two aircraft carrier groups the more such proactive measures are taken by any state the greater the risk and danger of conflict escalation. For Israel a key question going forward is to relate to Russia and China. Israel has tried to boost economic ties with Beijing going as far as it can without angering the United States and on Russia Israel is famously tiptoed around the war in Ukraine with the familiar arguments about keeping freedom of action in the skies of Syria and protecting the Jewish community in Russia itself. Now Israel needs America's support and the support of the political center across the west and China are explicitly siding with Israel's opponents pushing Israel ever more into Washington's arms. Still with us retired Colonel Mary Eisen and we just saw in that report President Joe Biden and Benjamin Netanyahu hugging that was obviously from the recent visit from the US leader looking at the international reaction all around there are reports that the US is pressuring Israel to delay the ground invasion as it bolsters its defenses at various spaces in the Middle East. Benny Gantz in the war cabinet he says Israel is going to ultimately make its own decisions. Can Israel afford to wait on its next move because the US wants it to ostensibly is that a possibility is that viable? I'm taking the word you just said a sensibility a word that I probably would never be able to say but the US has said that we have to stop I've actually listened and I don't say I don't think the US says we have to stop of all of the people and I've been listening to the spokespeople and to President Biden and to Congress and overall it's they're separating between that crushing of Hamas that needs to be done and that is because right now the US is already under attack when we say that they're pushed into our arms were in this together terror attack on October 7th and we're three weeks into it they're still attacking they're still firing rockets but if we connected also to the north and go further away to Iran and to the different Shiite proxies the United States of America in a variety of different places in the Middle East is already under attack so I don't see right now the United States telling us don't do it the United States I think right now considering its position is of the absolute understanding that this is not Israel just against Hamas it is Israel against a terror organization that it is connected to Iran even if it's not a direct Iranian proxy and if Hamas in any way succeeds if they're shown as winning that is the worst news ever not just for the United States but for all of the west and by the way for Russia and China so when I look at that Benita again I don't think we're being held back I think that it's complex I think that the hostages and our heart goes out are the most complex part about it but this is about choosing our time our way doing it hand in hand with enormous cooperation with the United States and additional allies all of the other voices around to me are the ones trying to make a case that is not relevant at this stage you in here because I'm curious if this invasion gets pushed out more and more how does it impact soldiers on the ground they all saw and understand what happened on the 7th of October the carnage that was unleashed in southern parts of the country and they want to defend the country and make sure that this can't happen again how does waiting pushing out the response impact the atmosphere the intensity between soldiers who are waiting to react you know Benita it's been 50 years before I mean since Israel last mobilized such a huge quantity of soldiers so most of them are not trained not ready for combat they have problems with equipment so we need the time to prepare we need to just train them again and to put them in condition of in combat conditions this takes time now if you remember in 1967 we spent three weeks waiting and we are at the end of the third week right now and as I said we have to decide what is our path where are we trying to reach if we want to eliminate Hamas we don't have the choice but to begin our ground offensive now concerning Russia and China I suggest that those two have no moral lessons to give us the Russians with the Chechens and the Chinese with the Uighurs holding more than 2 million Chinese in concentration camps so these are not the people that can teach us anything in morality so I think that this has to be remembered by all who are involved in it and America is under attack yes but it's not the first time that America is attacked in Iraq and Syria and the Americans have responded at least three times I remember in February and June of 21 in August of 22 in March of 23 and now so this is really I mean this is not the first time that the Americans are just under attack from Iranian proxies and I think that right now in this context they understand that the we have to just counter it Mary I want to bring you in on the rhetoric the threats out of Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah particularly they're not going to be waiting on the sidelines nor is Iran also saying they're not going to be waiting and not getting involved depending on what transpires in terms of this ground invasion your confidence that Israel is in a position to handle several threats at once in the coming weeks the IDF has been preparing itself the security establishment has been preparing itself against the Hezbollah threat for a decade and we were not in that sense noticing the horrific Hamas threat and we have paid a horrific price because of that on Saturday the 7th and again in the following three weeks this didn't end on October 7th Hezbollah right now is testing waters Iran behind it also they're very much aware that we are prepared that we have evacuated communities that we have brought in troops that we are constantly and I follow these in numbers over the last three weeks because Hezbollah has been testing against Israel the latest count that I saw at the end it's about 47 Hezbollah terrorists have been killed in the last three weeks in their different attempts against Israel rocket fire anti-tank fire suicide drones into Israel all of that along the immediate front they are I think and here I'm saying I don't want to say I hope because after October 7th my hopes have been dashed but Hezbollah lives in Lebanon Hezbollah is not the only player in Lebanon as opposed to Hamas on the Gaza Strip which is why it's so complicated and Hezbollah in Lebanon let's say that they have 50% perhaps inside Lebanon 50% do not support them in the actions of the IDF that are very clear and ready and targeted and again war is ugly and there will be casualties on both sides but our capacity and capability to address the Hezbollah threat is full and I think Hezbollah knows that parting words just a few seconds Shaq in 1948 we were 600,000 Israelis living in Israel and we had 20% of our population killed during the war of independence we held against 5 Arab armies and we won retired colonel Dr. Jacques Neria former deputy head of assessment in the Israeli military intelligence and retired colonel Mary Eisen director at the international institute for counterterrorism appreciate your insight at this time thank you both for being with us on breaking news edition and no doubt we will have lots more to unpack in a couple of days and weeks thank you both very much and with that we wrap up this breaking news edition I'm Benita Levine in Tel Aviv our rolling coverage continues shortly stay tuned this is I-24 News 1300 people murdered and more than 3,000 injured and the war with Hamas continues we bring you first-hand testimonies from the front lines from those who survived in the hands of the atrocities by Hamas follow us as Israel fights terror from the south and north get the inside scoop on what's going on only on I-24 News 2,500 serious injured 212 injured and a country that in the middle of a chaos is creating a new line both on social media and in the military to eliminate the operative and Hamas terrorists at home I want to start reading the beginning of a long article published by Pilar Raola at the National Port of Catalonia and says that paralyzes me, although I have always felt comfortable in the territory of the word and I have never avoided a dialectic scream in the defense of my convictions. These terrible days have left me without breath. I have the impression that madness wins the ground for the reason and that there are no lights that put so much darkness into light. Everything that has happened in the reactions that many of the people I know have had has opened us in a moral void and in an intellectual way that treats us as a very sick society has lost the sense of the limits of humanity and confusion, the pure evil, has made its way to be analyzed by some, justified by others, even in some cases applauded. Very hard, isn't it, Nicole? Accent words, very hard, but for this we are going to be talking today because we have as guests one of the most distinguished journalists of Israel recognized in Europe, Latin America and also in the Arab countries. I am talking about Enrique Simerman who has joined today in News 24 to analyze everything that is happening since the beginning of the war. Thank you Enrique for being with us. Pleasure, Nicole. Pleasure, Carlos. Let's start with the following. I tell you what we are going to talk about in this special mission. First, we want your analysis on the relations Israel, Hamas, the national Palestine, then we want to see how all this situation affects the region, the United States, Europe, the Arab countries. We want to talk about the digital war, the fake news and also the incident with President Petro who did not want to let it happen. And finally we have read an article that you have written about how to recommence and rethink, recalculating this region. So Enrique, I would like you to start by giving us a wide view of what has been the before and after October 7th. How have you played the role, something very important, the Palestinian national authority Enrique? The Palestinian national authority is lost. They lost the GPS. They do not know where they have to go for several reasons. And the main thing is that for them Hamas is a rival. A very strong rival. That is why there are no elections in the Palestinian authority 17 years ago. Because they know that Hamas would probably win. And as they are afraid of it, the Palestinian authority remains undemocratic. But at the same time they continue to fight for the Palestinian public opinion. So they cannot face Hamas. I can tell you that last week, days after the most atrocious killing that I have seen since I am here, and I have been covering this region for many years, I was in Iraq, I saw the Islamic State, I must say that what we saw here is really unprecedented. And also planned for four years by Iran, together with Hamas. I called the muhattah, the Palestinian authority, and I told them gentlemen, if you do not get rid of Hamas, you will pass on to history as something irrelevant. And they told me, but if nothing happened, if what happened is that there were some incidents and I told them about the violations, and the kidnappings, and the kidnappings. And they asked me to send them movies and I sent them. And the next day, the Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas announced that Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people. The OLP represents the Palestinian people. He said it in a conversation with the president of Venezuela. And he wrote it on a tweet and immediately he deleted it. And he left only the OLP represents the Palestinian people. They have a problem. And we have a problem, like Israel, in the measure in which we believed that we could have some kind of dialogue, I would say, indirect with Hamas, allowing him to get some kind of money, to cut it down, to never, malletines full of workers. Two twenty thousand workers a day who enter, who give to eat hundreds of thousands of people, all type of entry and exit of humanitarian aid. Today we understand that we cannot understand ourselves with Hamas, that Hamas cannot be there on the other side of the border, that Hamas is a neo-fascist intersection. That is why I want to ask you, the attacks that he has done with his defense, Israel has killed civilians, which are always human shields of Hamas, there in Gaza. And they claim, the Palestinian national authority, that those deaths are innocent of those children. Do you exist and believe in the eye by eye, tooth by tooth? No es una cuestión de ojo por ojo, es una cuestión de que si tú decides que no puedes tener un vecino así, porque él hace cosas que el mundo civilizado no conoce ni ha visto y los conocemos ya de sobras, pero empieza saliendo ahora y yo estuve en el Kibbutz ni Roz y verlo con tus propios ojos, ver las historias una por una, casa por casa, de hecho me llegó una prueba de que estaban drogados. Los terroristas de Hamas estaban drogados, eso fue parte de la preparación hecha en Irán, pero tú ves exactamente el grado de sadismo que no tiene precedentes en mi opinión desde la Segunda Guerra Mundial. Bueno, también estuve en el sur, en Nicole fue la ciudad de Sderot que se encuentra cinco kilómetros de la frontera y nos preparó este informe con su visión en esta ciudad tan golpeada en medio de la catástrofe de la estación de policía en la ciudad de Sderot tomada por dos días por los terroristas de Hamas. Ver una estación de policía israelí hechas combros era algo inimaginable antes del 7 de octubre el olor a cloaca aquella que imana el terrorismo se siente entre los charcos de agua sucia que se entre mezclaron con los trozos de cemento que quedó de la demolición el ejército israelí había llegado el 8 de octubre Sderot una ciudad capturada por los terroristas que se atrincheraron en la estación policial matando a los pocos oficiales de guardia la única manera de eliminarlos de moler la estación observo y no comprendo la policía israelí vulnerada por el vecino enemigo terrorista al que creían pequeño en Sderot perdieron la vida más de 200 civiles israelí es un sábado de descanso de shabbat las calles son un desierto fantasmal la lluvia de balas están marcadas en su cotidianidad un consencionario de autos refleja sin sangre el horror donde lo doloroso no es la pérdida material sino que esas balas eliminaron vidas inocentes carros familiares con manchas de sangre sangre sangre la silla del niño en el coche se imaginan si ese niño hubiese estado allí sentado lo estuvo no sabemos pero de repente la vida nos envía un mensaje una camioneta blanca como la paz cargada de banderas de israel apareció a lo alto alguien colocaba en los postes de luz la bandera con la estrella de david como señal de identidad recuperamos la ciudad y conocí al encargado de colocarlas en sderot vemos cómo esta bandera de israel está siendo colocada por un árabe israelí que está allá arriba salá malécum toda roba machan shell ha es de rod no volverá a ser la misma como toda israel como todo judío del siglo 21 porque ahora toca ser resiliente sam haris filósofo americano escribio la verdad es que todos vivimos en israel lo único es que alguno de nosotros no lo entendemos hay enemigo pequeño seguimos en esta misión especial de nios 24 en español dedicada a israel bajo ataque con un invitado de lujo que es el paredista enrique ximerman enrique la semana pasada tuvimos la visita del presidente de estados unidos biden vino el primer ministro sunak de gran britannia el canciller schultz de alemania qué importancia tiene estas visitas en la región y sobre todo con los países del golfo todo lo que se hablaba antes con aria saudita hacia dónde vamos con todo esto la importancia es enorme porque ellos los líderes empezando por biden entiende que este no es un conflicto entre israel y jamás esto es algo mucho más amplio estos son coaliciones que de hecho se están enfrentando en el lugar que es el punto de encuentro entre occidente y el mundo libre y los guiadistas islamistas entonces hay aquí un punto de encuentro en el que nosotros israel está en primera línea y yo creo que ellos empiezan a entender que también ellos tienen algo que ver con todo esto y por eso israel está recibiendo el apoyo internacional que está recibiendo incluso de países europeos como gran britannia como francia como alemania como italia siempre ha tenido una tendencia palestina mucho más mucho más pero entienden aquí que jamás no es palestina entienden aquí que jamás es un fenómeno muchísimo más grave que ha sido alimentado por iran en los últimos años no era si hace los primeros años de jamás pero lo es ahora hoy en día jamás es una organización totalmente iraní absolutamente financiada ahora arabia saudi arabia saudi está en un en una situación difícil porque ellos estaban muy cerca muy cerca de la normalización con israel iran lo sabía y por eso decidieron esta fecha como ataque hay que entender que jamás destrozó después de oslo cuando había esperanza de paz en esta región cuando todo era positivo ellos empezaron los atentados suicidas y mataron el proceso de paz ahora están haciendo lo mismo dos dos décadas y media después están haciendo exactamente lo mismo están 30 años después están intentando matar la posibilidad de que israel y arabia saudi se lleguen a un acuerdo de paz y que se amplían los acuerdos de abram y yo tengo una pregunta el logro con los acuerdos de oslo fue casi total consiguieron paralizar lo que es un estatus cubo donde ninguna de las dos partes fue a ningún lado pero lo que ha pasado el sitio de octubre es un game changer o sea no va a volver a ser lo que había antes y iran va a conseguir de alguna manera evitar de que haya un cambio tal donde ellos de repente se encuentra en una situación aislada frente al mundo que se opone a su actitud mi esperanza es que irán no lo logre a medio plazo pero irán ha logrado a través de jamás son sus brazos postergar el proceso este proceso está postergado pero yo creo que no está muerto todo lo contrario yo recibo indicios del golfo incluso os puedo citar alguien muy destacado en el golfo que me llama cada dos tres días y que me dijo una frase me dijo mientras no cortéis la cabeza de la serpiente la serpiente seguirá intentando matar y lo dice enrique que cuántas veces has estado en el radio saudita cinco años cinco este año conoce muy bien bueno pero hay algo es un tema bastante amplio hay algo importante enrique que uno de los fenómenos que hemos visto es que el manipuleo y la desinformación que hay en las plataformas sociales y que es base fundamental de la información actualmente no nosotros vamos a escuchar ahora y quiero que me ayude a analizar lo a frey bernal frey bernal es el gobernador del estado tachina en venezuela sabemos la alianza que tiene venezuela con iran quizás la la alianza más fuerte de irán para en america latina no y luego a carlos te va a mostrar unas gráficas que vamos a comentar sobre los caos y las y las opiniones que han tenido el respecto sobre toda esta situación vamos a verlo a las cortes y que pasa con el estado del rey que pasa con el estado del rey de asesinar y exterminar un pueblo es inadmissible en pleno siglo 21 que te parece enrique las opiniones este gobernador del estado tachira de nicolás maduro presidente venezuela una caricatura tan simple como eso pero una caricatura premeditada o sea intent es un intento de engañar a la opinión pública presentando algo que es sólo una pequeña parte de la realidad es verdad hay sufrimiento civil en casa es un hecho pero quien abrió toda esta guerra quien abrió las puertas del infierno quien empezó todo esto o sea estamos hablando de un grupo se olvidan que es homófobo que rechaza la mujer que no permite que la mujer tenga libertad y que además no acepta la existencia de israel y además de todo envía 1500 hombres drogados para matar judíos con el único objetivo de matar y secuestrar judíos obviamente no se puede defender en el mundo libre en el mundo democrático alguien así y debería preocuparle israel esa alianza que tiene iran con en america latina con venezuela un pez petrolero de obviamente pero no sólo con venezuela con toda america latina yo hace años que que sé que hay una presencia de grupos islamistas radicales entre ellos un país que es iran que es el padre de todos ellos que están en estos países cada vez más arraigados cada vez más agasajados y eso es un error porque es traer células cancerígenas a tu propio país si creo que vamos a un breve comentario acerca de la actitud que tiene el presidente petro de colombia bosque manejas relaciones internacionales ahí lo estamos viendo amenazar de cortar las relaciones con israel a que se debe esto se debe a sus intereses propios se debe a mucha mucha propaganda se debe a cuestiones económicas yo me imagino se debe a estereotipos muy profundos decía hincetán que es más fácil destruir un atomo que destruir un estereotipo y aquí estamos viendo gente que tiene no solamente intereses sino también todo tipo de prejuicios que han sido acumulados que venga este señor aquí le llevaremos al sur a la frontera de gaza le enseñaré el qui boots en el que yo estuve ayer en el qui boots near us en le enseñaré a carmela la casa de carmela una señora de 80 años que estaba siendo babysitter a su nieta el viernes por la noche y que de repente ve cómo entran en su casa y como ya está encerrada en el bunker le lanzan una granada y le incendian la casa y matan viva a su nieta autista y a carmela esto ocurrió en decenas de lugares esto esto sí que es genocidio y además premeditado lo otro es una reacción de autodefensa hablando de genocidio te quisiera comentar algo que la gente no tiene idea cómo fue que gaza quedó tipo sandwich entre egypto y israel y la historia es que el presidente saddad con se reunió con con vegin el primer ministro de israel para acordar el el desenganche de las fuerzas en esa época saddad dijo mire yo recibo todo la península sinal pero gaza no lo quiero y vos sabés cuánta gente vivía en gaza en el año 1978 tenés una idea cientos de miles trescientos ochenta mil gaza ties y hoy cuántos viven más de dos millones y te diré que el promedio de hijos es uno de los más altos del mundo son siete niños por familia entonces cuando todo el mundo utiliza la palabra genocidio genocidio cuando tu población merma desaparece no cuando se incrementa no cierto hay aquí un problema muy serio con los conceptos israelis visto como un centro de colodialismo como fueron yo recuerda los líderes de jamás diciéndome yo entrevisté a todos catorce veces entrevisté al fundador de jamás el jeque ajmed y asin en su casa y ellos siempre hablaban de los israelí es como los nuevos cruzados van a estar aquí una época y al final los terminamos por por echar y por derrotar de aquí y piensan que israel es como argelia es como afganistan para estados unidos no entienden que la realidad es totalmente distinta aquí y vemos lo que está pasando en la sociedad israeli si me pedís para resumiros en una frase que ocurrió aquí el 7 de octubre esto es un intento de iran que olio debilidad dentro de la sociedad israeli olio sangre debido al debate político interno israeli en torno a la reforma judicial a la revolución judicial ellos lo interpretaron como una debilidad y decidieron atacar para dos cosas una para acabar con israel porque creían que esto haría que todos nosotros correríamos al aeropuerto de vengurión y tendríamos miedo y nos iríamos de aquí es la palabra a terrorizar y lo segundo acabar con el proceso negociador que nos está llevando a la paz posible con países árabes del de todo de toda esta región y fracasaron no lograron yo estoy convencido que el tema de arabes sauditas será postergado pero no está muerto ni mucho menos que conoce la sociedad israelis será resiliente a toda esta situación que han conseguido el efecto puesto hoy en día los israelíes que estaban muy divididos en los últimos 10 meses están más unidos que nunca yo quiero decir algo porque mencionaste argelia yo he leído los libros de france fanon que era el ideólogo de la revolución argelina y el consiguió a través de este mismo tipo de acciones echar a los franceses los franceses tenían a dónde irse quiera volverse a francia los judíos no israel no tenemos dónde ir y yo nada por el mediterráneo no creo que pueda quisiera terminar nuestro encuentro con una propuesta has escrito un artículo que se llama se requiere una coalición internacional y árabe en gaza tenemos seis minutos para que nos expliques de qué estás hablando porque aunque no querramos hay que pensar en el futuro hablé otro día con el hijo del líder de jamás nensis jordania el jeque haza nussef que acaba de ser detenido de nuevo por israel y su hijo se llama moza biosef y luego se descubrió que era el príncipe verde que había sido un espía de israel de llun y cuando yo iba su casa él entrevistaba no sabía que él ya era un espía de israel y él me dijo jamás odia los israelíes más de lo que ama sus propios hijos lo que decía guldamero y eso lo dice el hijo del líder de jamás nsis jordania lo que yo escribí aquí es algo que es difícil de hablar de ello en este momento cuando todo está ocurriendo pero creo que es vital que lo hagamos israel es la gran experta en la táctica pero fracasamos a veces en la estrategia hay que pensar en el día después hay que pensar hacia dónde vamos hacia dónde vamos a llevar todo digamos y es legítimo y creo que hoy en día en el mundo libre se entiende que israel tiene todo el derecho a defenderse y acabar con un grupo terrorista como jamás cuidado con la población civil separemos las dos cosas pero acabar con jamás la pregunta es qué pasa el día después nos vamos a quedar en gaza ocupando gaza como hasta el 2005 yo no quiero que mis hijos estén ocupando gaza son dos millones y medio de gas actives que tampoco egipto no los quiere a jordanio no los puedes mandar a levano tampoco están ahí se van a quedar ahí pero te acuerdas que vegin propuso a sadat y sadat lo rechazo es como un problema que nadie quiere tocarlo y hasta ahora qué hizo así si el presidente de egipto cerrar la frontera él no quiere que pase gente de gaza hacia el sinai el el tema eso profundamente y es un gran enemigo de jamás también porque son los hermanos musulmanes a mí me gustaría que tú aprovecharás aquí las cámaras de este programa en español y que lo van a ver en cualquier otro idioma y si tú vices que hablarle a la autoridad nacional palestina al primer ministro no habas el presidente que quizás puede ser un sucesor a uno de los consejeros de aba josein que también puede ser un sucesor que le dirías tú con la experiencia que tienes que es entrevistado exactamente esto yo les diría que en un primer término tendremos que traer una coalición internacional por un lado pero árabe también tenemos que traer a los saudís que tienen el poder moral y el poder económico tenemos que traer a los egipcios que tienen poder político y tenemos que traer a los emiratís que tienen visión de futuro y que me dicen os voy a contar algo que nunca dije que están dispuestos a hacerlo y están dispuestos a coordinarlo abudabi los emiratís y dos reinos el marroquí y el jordan estos países tienen que venir aquí y tienen que preparar el terreno no pienso que israel tenga que permanecer muchos tiempo allí estuvimos en el libano 18 años no quiero repetir libano dos nosotros tenemos que estar vencer jamás limpiar el terreno entregarlo a esta coalición que incluirá estados unidos y la única posibilidad real de futuro es que esta coalición agasaje la autoridad palestina y la traiga allí quien será en la autoridad palestina está por ver pero sin te escuché muy bien a todas las naciones que mencionaste lo que deja fuera a los que financian ahora que es catar y de una manera es impedir el acceso de irán o sea de esa manera se cerraría un círculo en el cual quizás podemos pensar en un futuro mejor iran tiene que estar fuera de todo irán es un estado terrorista que está desestabilizando el mundo libre entero israel es parte de ello y cómo será para apartar irán hay que hacer una coalición internacional con todos los países que están que tienen que preocuparse por el futuro iran no es una amenaza para israel irán es una amenaza para el mundo libre y para el mundo árabe suni que está amenazado por ellos y cuando dice todos países europea e medio oriente america latina también aparte estados sin duda yo creo que países de america latina tendrían la obligación de ser parte de la reconstrucción de gaza y ser parte del futuro de esta región bueno realmente en rique muchísimas gracias por tu análisis creo que de esta manera desde nuestro pequeño rincón contribuimos a que la gente comprenda mejor que es lo que está pasando y compartimos tu visión de que el futuro también hay que pensarlo porque hoy están todos enfrascados con lo que pasa en este momento con el dolor de las víctimas de israel con los desaparecidos que hay que mencionar y que nosotros de aquí pedimos a las organizaciones internacionales que hablan de humanitarismo en el mundo que se ocupa en eso también muchísimas gracias y esperamos más adelante quizás volver a contar contigo para explicarle al mundo esto que está gracias en rique con nosotros nicole realmente un tema sobre el que vamos a seguir hablando y los que quieren nos pueden seguir en facebook en twitter en el canal 34 de hot pueden responder a nuestra encuesta y seguiremos hablando de israel bajo ataque gracias por estar con nosotros 1300 people murdered and more than 3000 injured and the war with hamas continues we bring you first hand testimonies from the front lines from those who survived and all the records of the atrocities by hamas follow us as israel fights terror from the south and north yet the inside school on what's going on only on i-24 news dozens of correspondence throughout the world brings the truth from israel to hundreds of millions of people in scores of countries bringing israel's story to the world i-24 news channels now on hot i'm nicole zedek reporting in tell of eve since the outbreak of this war in israel our journalists here at i-24 news have been providing around the clock coverage giving a voice to all of those impacted by the october seventh massacre we're getting perspective on the whole left throughout israeli society and the impact on the entire middle east here's some of the best stories from our coverage since the war began a little closer can i get out of the car right here's the house can you smell it i have to go inside at the gate of kibbutz na halos mayan the mother of 15-year-old dafna and eight-year-old elah tries to enter she's trying to get an impression of what happened to them when they were kidnapped by hamas into gaza last week she learned that the father of her daughter's her ex-husband noam elia kim was found dead after he was murdered by the terrorists who broke into their home on october 7th his body was found a few hours after his wife and 17-year-old son were laid to rest side by side i was in my home in the kibbutz i woke up from rocket alert sirens i then heard unusual gunshots which were right outside my window i immediately ran to the security room and called my mom i said to her mom do you also hear gunshots it sounds really close are there terrorists she told me no and i said mom are you sure i'm telling you i can hear it it's outside my window they're here we don't understand what was happening friends called me in the morning they asked me how the situation was in the kibbutz if everything was okay it was about eight in the morning from that moment i was on the phone non-stop with mom and noam and tomev video calls trying to see what was going on with him i spoke to them until half past 10 and then it was all over no one answered anymore a few hours passed and then i get a call stov there's a live feed from your mother's facebook their last hours were recorded in a video that is now part of the collective memory of the attack the horrific use of cameras and facebook live streams by the terrorists what do you know about what do you know about you in an unprecedented act of cruelty amass terrorists used 17-year-old tomev to lure other families out of the security rooms and murdered them hello open the door i will not shut i will not shut open the door i will not shut open the door i will not shut i will not shut now oh my god i just want to get the nachalos to my daughter's room i want to see my little daughter's teddy bear the big girl's dressing table to see where they sat in the video dafna noam dikla elah tomev i want to get there to the place from where my family was taken they want to sleep at home and woke up in gaza what a nightmare at the place they should be safest for any person in the world they were pulled out of their bed by terrorists by the most brutal murderers into hell into horror her daughters dafna and elah are among the only victims documented alive inside gaza we miss them so much it's hard for me to think that they're there i don't know what's going on with them if they're okay what are they thinking if they know anything at all i will cross oceans to reach them hamas messed with the wrong mother my girls are my life on the way to nachalos we pass through the slaughter zone the fields of death and to the place is still dangerous we are stopped at the checkpoint they fear fire of anti-tank missiles on the road even after the threat was removed the soldiers received orders not to allow anyone through the threat is too real excuse me is there any chance you'll let me in who are you i'm the mother of dafna and elah who are kidnapped in gaza wait a minute please finally the gate opens but in front of the house things get even more difficult the soldier who assisted us wants to spare her the terrible sides and finds himself in a heartbreaking situation i'm begging please you have to let me in mayan i ask not i beg of you don't enter if it's hard for me i'll turn my head i'm a strong woman really if my daughter stood up to it i will stand up to it too no no no they did not see what i see now most of the members of this kibbutz which was infiltrated by more than a hundred terrorists are displaced from their homes and have yet to return you want me to bring your daughter's clothes but dafna's and elah's please she fought to bring them to the world now they are all she has left the whole world has to see what they did here two little girls after the idf shared with hundreds of foreign journalists bodycam videos and pictures from hamas's october 7th onslaught on southern israel the shin bet and israeli police shared footage from interrogations of hamas terrorists from gaza who participated in a destruction and mass murder in it they describe in detail how they were ordered to kill and kidnap women and children one second the detainees said in their investigations that they received orders to kidnap as many people as they could specifically women and children and to kill the rest the one The dog was walking in the street. He was barking at us. What did he do? He barked at us. Yes. Who barked at us? He barked at us a lot. Yes, he barked at us. Yes, he barked at us. What did he do? He barked at us. He barked at us. They closed the door. They closed the door. They opened the door and went outside. They went in and out. He was blindfolded. He closed the door. They opened the door. The dog didn't look back. He brought the key, put it down. The widows opened the door, opened the door and went outside. He was inside the door. Someone was walking in the street. He told me to get in. Did the dogs defend them? With many around the world denying the atrocities that were committed against innocent Israeli civilians, Israeli interrogators asked the detainees what Islam has to say about what they did. The arrested Hamas terrorists point a blaming finger at their leadership, who seeks refuge abroad while Gaza is laid to rubble. It's been nine days since the horrific slaughter in a community surrounding the Gaza Strip and the dust is still settling. But at Israel's National Medical Forensic Center, examiners are working around the clock to identify as many of the 1,400 bodies. And at times, it's an impossible task. And the remains here are charred, you cannot see what is there, again, go another one. And this, when we separated it, we see that there are two people there at least, we don't know how many people are there. So these people were sitting in the room and they were not shot because we don't see any metal fragments there. But they were banned because they were not shot. This is like a crematorium, they're just banned in the security room and this is what is actually left from them. I don't know if you will be able to take DNA from these samples because they are very charred. You can see here two spines, another one, you see, two spines, and Dr. Natan can show two ribs, two sets of ribs. And this is an adult with a child sitting together and hugging the child, no, no, the first one. And Dr. Nachman thinks it might, this metal wire that you see here might use to tie two bodies together. And they were banned like this. This last Saturday, the center's examiners have checked over 950 body bags. Some have their remains of more than one body of victims from the border communities, the Desert Music Festival, and security forces. So far, there are about 500 bodies that were identified and there are still close to 300 bodies that remain unidentified and new ones keep coming in. We're getting samples from the deceased. We're sampling them for the right amount of material that we need to extract DNA for. Then we'll use that to create a genetic profile and compare it to the family members who wait for the answers. Many of the bodies have bullet wounds, some also in the hands, as the victims were trying to protect themselves in their final moments. Burnt babies, headless bodies, some of the bodies are in such bad condition that they may never be identified. So this is a baby mattress. But just by addition by the sign or the size of the spot, it seems that he was bleeding or he or she were bleeding in the bed. I never saw anything like this. This is heart wrenching because you can see innocent people that were just not butchered and people that were shot where they were tied, people that were burned to death, people that were tied together. So this cruelty is something that you cannot imagine anything like that. With a ground invasion looming and increasing international criticism over Israel's response, there is also a growing movement of people denying that Hamas terrorists committed such horrific acts of violence and torture. But hundreds of people from first responders to the medical examiners at this center have seen it all. You've seen this happen. I saw you pictures of dead bodies and also babies. You've seen it. And I don't know how many were decapitated and so on. We see people without heads. But things have happened. Just to deny it didn't happen. You saw the pictures. You see the bodies. It's here. You can tell yourself any story that you want and you can believe it.  Right now standing in the Makhabi House. If you could believe this is normally the professional basketball stadium for the Makhabi Rishon Lezion basketball team, a very good team here. Now that we're in the middle of this war, this has literally turned into an emergency place to collect special items that are going directly to the soldiers in the south of Israel right now along the border preparing to do whatever is being prepared to do. You can see here we have clothes, underwear, supplies, hygienic items and a very enthusiastic crowd which we're going to get to in a second. I want to also share here, if you look at some of these boxes, it's been over 2,000 boxes that have been packed with individual notes. Look at this. Individual notes. This is going to our children that are fighting and defending Israel at this time. Shampoo, toothpaste, underwear, basic supplies that human beings need that are going to be fighting this war. And this is the heart and soul again of this country. This group of people that have been here every single day. Even the supply isn't that full because they've given it all away. All away. So now we are joined by a very special man. He's the deputy mayor of Rishon Lezion. Thank you so much for number one being so on top of your beloved city and all of these wonderful people who already feel like family. And I've only been here an hour with you. It feels good to be here in spite of the fact that we're here for the worst possible reason. Yeah. In order to overcome the atrocities we hear from the front, the best way for us and to boost the morale is just bring all these wonderful volunteers to do everything they can in order to help our troops on the Gaza border. Unfortunately now even on the northern border and to help all the families that lost the best friends and all the kings and everything. And don't forget there are so many missing people after six days. They still don't know where they are. It's unbelievable how they kidnapped babies, elderies, 90 years old in wheelchairs and everything. And they just want to have any news from their families. So these boxes that you guys are preparing there have been more than 2,000 that are literally being delivered in armored cars directly to the soldiers at the border of Gaza that we know of right now. Exactly. They take everything directly to the soldiers and to the Kibbutz near the border, which all the homes were burned. They don't have any clothes, any food, nothing. And we give them the first aid to survive the first days. Also with Rishon, a very tight community as we can see here. This is really a very, really, I'm loving being here in Rishon. That's the only with you all right now. It gives me a lot of comfort to be here with such strong, warm people. And I just want to know, I mean, how are you dealing with the fact there are what, how many, how many people from Rishon have been killed? 30? 30 was delivered to us this data on Sunday. I'm very sad to say that the numbers are growing by each day. So this, how do we deal with this? Explain why this is how Amisrael deals with this. This is, you know, we have mainly our viewers in the United States. So what