Aloha and welcome to Ehana Kako. We're here every week on the Think Tech Hawaii Broadcast Network. I'm Kili Ikeena, president of the Grassroot Institute. Anyone observing the national scene has noticed that there has been a strong growth in the Republican Party across the nation. Not only do we have a Republican Senate and a Republican House, we have, of course, a Republican Oval Office, and houses of Republicans are growing all across the 48 states. However, there's one state in which we've seen a different direction. A blue state, which is the state of Hawaii, a Democrat-dominated state, which became bluer in this last election. Now, not only do we have a Democrat state Senate with no Republicans whatsoever, a Democrat House with fewer Republicans than we had at the election, we have Democrat-controlled unions and so forth. This is a Democrat state, which creates an interesting environment in which an emerging leader has made her mark and is making an even greater mark. I'm talking about Andrea Tupola, District 43's representative in the House of Representatives here in the state of Hawaii. She's hit the political scene and she is rising like a rocket. I'm delighted to have her on board today. And we're gonna ask her about many things, including what her views are as now the highest-ranking official who has been elected as a Republican here in the state. She's the leader of the minority leader in the state House of Representatives. In addition to that, she represents her people. Please welcome to the program with me Andrea Tupola. Andrea, delighted to have you on the program. Thank you, thank you for having me. I can't tell you how much I've been looking forward to this. I'm glad. But I've been watching your career just take off. It just seems like a few years ago you were a music teacher at a local college and then all of a sudden you hit the political scene. What made you run for office? Now you're in your second term, two-year term. Yes. I decided back in 2012 to get involved when I saw Mitt Romney take a run for president, his second run. And I got involved because I saw a lot of the policies that were happening at the national level and they reminded me a lot of a country that I used to live in. And what is that? I lived in Venezuela. I lived over a year in Venezuela as a missionary for my church. But I got to see firsthand how policies, government, can affect the whole entire society. And a lot of the policies that are implemented in Venezuela have kind of left them to where they are today. And I saw some of that coming. And when I saw an opportunity to help a candidate that I believed in, even if it was on the presidential level, and trust me, I knew nothing about politics. But everything inside of me told me that we needed to support a new direction. Well, interesting, broad strokes. What did you see in Venezuela that you may notice here in Hawaii? Well, they definitely give free education, free medical, and free, I guess, yeah, housing in some areas. So it's a high socialism state. Yes. So for the lowest class of people there, you do get a lot of free things, but you live off of the government. The reason why I bring that up is because when I was in Venezuela, at any given point in time, everybody's home. A lot of people don't work. I mean, there's a very low incentive to work when the highest class of people get taken money from them and given to the poor. And how do you see that in Hawaii? Well, I definitely see a high dependence on the welfare system. I see a high dependence on federal support, which we need here in Hawaii. Now, you live on the Bayanai Coast. Right. Your district 43 covers Ma'ili all the way through Ewa. Yes, it does. And so do you see some of that in your own district? I do. I see a lot of people really leaning to government and saying, fix this. Help us. Teach us that. But at the end of the day, I mean, we are so different than the federal government. And so I think that having autonomy, having decisions that are able to be made by the state, I think those are Republican values. And I see that in a lot of the initiatives and policy that we support. Well, I hear a different voice coming from you than I hear from most people in our state and most policymakers. You're not saying, let's go after the federal government for more money. Let's get more money from the state for welfare programs and so forth. You're actually sounding a different tune. What is it that you believe politically? Well, I think that in regards to my last comment, what I'm trying to say is that there's a lot that we can do to empower our communities to help our people, to help themselves. And it's a concept that a lot of us have strayed away from because we think the government should do everything for us.  It's not local people. It's not local government. And so I'm not saying that we should shy away from getting any type of federal funding because we need that. And as Republicans, we are the only conduit to some of that access that we need to our federal government. But there has to be a balance. Well, it sounds like what you're saying is people need to be empowered, people need to work, people need to achieve, as opposed to people need to be taken care of by the government. Now, I don't hear you saying there shouldn't be a safety net. But what I hear you saying strongly is government welfare programs and so forth shouldn't be used to make people dependent. They shouldn't be abused. Yes. Because at the end of the day, those programs were implemented to help you, give you a hand up, not a hand out. And so the difference is that when somebody is able to learn and grow and then become independent, become self-sufficient, that is the goal we're looking for. Not dependence on government, not ultimate crippling because you've now had a crutch for the rest of your life. Now, when you started your political career, was it clear to you that you were a Republican or did you make a choice at a certain point to align yourself with that party? I think definitely helping out in the presidential race and then later reviewing what the Republicans believe in. I also heard a speech by Mike Lee. He's a senator from Utah. And a lot of what he said resonated with me. When I hear people speak and when they speak and it sounds like what I believe, it feels like what I believe, then I know that I'm in the right place. And a lot of what he shared I totally agreed with. And I did. I made that choice that I did align more with the Republican party. Well, here in Hawaii, whether you're looking at the media or at social media or just listening to people in the bars talk, which I don't think you hang out in that much. No. There are certain stereotypes of what it is to be a Republican, like the party of all white males and so forth. But before I ask you to address any of the stereotypes, let me let you have the benefit and the doubt. Why don't you tell us what those values are in the Republican party, the Republican platform, that attracted you to it? Well, and I'll share a few, but it's not limited to the few that I'm going to share. Know that there's a vast array of ideals and principles that we stand for. But for me, yes, I support freedom of religion. Yes, I support military support to the extent that we need it. And yes, I support local businesses, making sure that we keep money here in Hawaii. I also support the gun rights. I also support less taxes. I vote against every tax increase that they put out at the state. So at the end of the day, I really support local initiatives. And I got involved to help locally here in Hawaii. Well, most of what you say doesn't sound to me as though it really has a party label on it. Because when I hear people in Hawaii talk about their lives and the politics and so forth, they tend to value the kinds of things you just mentioned. Oh, yeah. I don't think there's anyone that would disagree with the fact that we don't need any more taxes. We don't need any more regulations and restrictions and things that make it hard for businesses to operate here. Everyone agrees that we're getting suffocated by the government. So a little more nuts and bolts. While there are many Democrats who espouse exactly what you've said, and many of them are challenging the old boys network, you made a political decision to align with the Republican Party as opposed to fight for these values within the Democrat Party. Why did you make that choice? What were you looking at when you ran for office as a Republican? I know that Republicans have an uphill battle. And personally, for me, I don't think I've ever been put in a situation where it was given to me some opportunities. I've always had to fight for it. So there was a challenge. Oh, yeah. I've had to fight for everything that I've ever tried to do in my whole life. I'm Samoan. I'm half Samoan. I'm quarter Hawaiian. People tell you that you can't be this, that you can't do that. I mean, my father was the first Samoan judge in the entire United States.   You're supposed to be a furniture mover. You're supposed to be somebody who does yards, does rock walls. At the end of the day, when you know that you have an uphill battle, that shouldn't discourage you from doing it. You should make decisions based on what you feel is the right thing to do. And I felt like it was the right thing to do to run as a Republican. Now, the Republican Party has received some very bad press since the election of Donald Trump nationally. And this made very well me because of the bias of news media. There have been postmortems. People have been writing about the death of the Republican Party in Hawaii. In fact, when I talk about nationally, I mean, people have actually written nationally about Hawaii. And the world has looked at the fact that we've actually lost a member, Beth Fukumoto, to the Democrat Party and so forth. What is your take on what's going on in the Hawaii Republican Party? Oh, it's gotten even harder, I think. I know that you know what the voting result was for the presidential election here in Hawaii, which speaks to the fact that. Bernie Sanders. Right, which speaks to the fact of where people stand as far as Democrats and Republicans across our state. The perception and the stereotype, what you asked me earlier about why I decided that and why I brought up my father's name is because stereotypes are something we have to get over all the time in life. And I feel like even more so now that the presidential campaign has concluded, we have a huge uphill battle.  You don't talk like one. And I ask them, well, what does one talk like? I don't know. Well, beyond the stereotypes, one of the things that has appeared heavily in our local news media is some of the conflict within the Republican Party. I mean, in fact, that appears in the media a lot more than any substantive Republican positions appear. What do you think about that? The Republican Party here in Hawaii? Oh, yes. You know, at the end of the day, we can do what we need to do at the Capitol, but our efforts are sometimes adversely affected by the disorganization in the party. I always tell people, when our caucus is dysfunctional, people don't want to be Republican. When our party is dysfunctional, people don't want to run as Republicans. So it's this vicious cycle that happens where we don't get good candidates or we don't get enough support for those candidates and then look at the results.  I can tell from the way you talk. I wouldn't want to be the guy on the other side in a battle in a rink with you. You took on a Democrat district and you won. You won again. Not only that, I don't know if it was your intention or not, you've won in terms of leadership in your own party, in the Republican Party. You are now the minority leader in the House and you're also running to become chair of the Republican Party. Well, what is it that drives you to take such a role of prominence in the Republican Party? Well, I would say first off, in regards to my district, when I ran for that seat and I knew I was running against an incumbent and people told me you're going to lose. You're running as a Republican. You're going to lose. You grew up in Hoi Kai.  That sealed the deal for you. You know, it definitely made me think that I have to try harder. It made me think I better have a game plan. And so yeah, in areas of my district, because it is a numbers game, at the end of the day, you need to know your break-even point in every single precinct in both elections, 2014 and 2016, I won in every single precinct. The reason, the way you do it is that you make sure you understand the data and the facts, and then you go out and you do the work. So you attribute that to smart campaigning, but beyond smart campaigning, there must be something about Andrea Tupelo that drew those votes. I think so. I mean, at the end of the day, I am there to serve the people. I didn't grow up in Waianae, but I love the people in my district. And the reason I say that is because, you know, I never thought that I would, I would move to Waianae. And when I did, and I got to know these people, and of course people from Huai Kai, oh, is it okay? Are people in Waianae hurting you? I grew up in a very different place, but I learned to love these people. And so, yeah, for me, campaigning was about how can I serve them? How can I help them? How can I become somebody that's a conduit for their voice, what they need to get done? So in my district, it's not about me, it's about what I can do for others. I'm taking it then that you didn't throw your hat into the rink and run through political office out of ego, out of a desire to do something other than a career you're preparing for with a PhD in music and so forth. You threw it into the rink because you had a passion for something, what was that? I think I have a passion to help and serve others. I wasn't student government at BYU, I was a student body vice president for 33,000 students, and I've done leadership throughout my life, but yeah, I would totally agree with what you're saying because if I was in this for myself, I would still be a music professor. I love music and I actually miss it every day. I sometimes wish I was back in the classroom. I used to live this wonderful life of singing and harmony and now I hear a lot of dissonance and fighting and ego and so it's a totally different world for me, but I always go back to why I did what I did. Well, it looks like you're trying to conduct a symphony now, at least within the Republican Party and maybe beyond that. What are your aims now in the leadership position you've taken in the house and also that you seek in the party? Well, I'll be honest, with five Republicans in the house out of 51 representatives, we got to think about our effectivity. We barely have enough representatives to cover our committee assignments. We actually have to leave some committees empty because we don't have enough people to go around. So yeah, people say, oh, you should just worry about your career, just be an elected official, but for what? If we're not getting more people elected, if we're not spreading our cause and getting more people to rally our cause, then what are we doing? Well, I'm going to come back after the short break and ask you a little bit more about that because I think the public who we're watching right now are very interested in watching your career trajectory and what you're doing with a party that to many people doesn't seem relevant, but you're making it as relevant as it can be. My guest today is Andrea Tupolo, House of Representatives, District 43 here in Hawaii and we'll be back right after the short message. I'm Kaylee Ikeena with Ehana Kako on the Think Tech Hawaii Network. Don't go away. I'm Carol Mon Lee and I want to welcome you to our newest series called Education Matters, where we will explore education-related topics that touch everyone, not just formal programs in K-12 and higher education, but also broader issues and information that affect our community. Hello, I'm Dean Nelson, host of Planet of the Courageous. From a Tibetan point of view, we chose to be on this planet because we enrolled in a sort of graduate school for courage. Just that we may have chosen this adventure is a leap of logic. The question is, how do we spend and make sense of this precious human life? We are as a species extraordinarily successful, dominating the planet and now with planetary-sized problems that our existence itself has created. It takes courage to face not only the uncertainty of life, but also the challenge of sustaining this gift of life for future generation. Join us every Monday at 3 p.m. on Think Tech Hawaii. Aloha. Welcome back to Ehana Kako. I hope you had a good break learning about some of the other programming here. Think Tech Hawaii produces about 35 hours of live programming from downtown Honolulu and beams it across the world. You can also see it on the website, thinktechawaii.com. At the Grassroot Institute, we look for collaborators like the Think Tech Network because we're looking for people who want to build a better economy, government, and society. And that's why we say Ehana Kako, just like that venerable old Hawaiian saying, a pule kako, which is let's pray kako together. At Grassroot, we say Ehana Kako, let's work together because think of the terrible alternative if we don't work for a better economy, government, and society. And that's why I'm so pleased today to have Andrea Tupola here with us. She's the house minority leader.  And if you were watching the first part of this program today, I think she showed her heart quite a bit. I didn't want to embarrass her. She teared up a little bit, I think, when she was talking about the needs of her people in her district and why she ran for office. But while she's still composed, I hope. Yes. We'll welcome her back to the second part of our program today. Andrea, we were talking a little bit about the Republican Party of Hawaii. And it's no secret to anyone that there are quite a few challenges. There certainly is a public relations problem with the party because if we look at what's being reported about it, I don't think anybody in the party could like it. Now, you are running for chairperson of the party. What in the world is that position? And why did you choose to run for it? Well, the chairman of the Republican Party is supposed to be the leader of this movement to get candidates elected, to help them with resources, to get them trained. And so when I won in 2014, and I was the only person to unseat an incumbent, most people would be like, you should be so happy. The night of the election, I distinctly remember thinking, man, I don't think anybody made a plan because I was the only new person. So there was no plan to get anyone else in. And that was a year when Duke ran, when Charles ran, and when not everyone had these high hopes that all these Republicans would get in and then one person wins. And she's the newbie. Yeah, and so immediately when I stepped in, I thought, great, nobody has a plan, I better start making one. Okay, so you say that the role of the chairperson, which by extension would be the role of the party, is to get candidates elected to office. Right, yes. So really, it's not so much about running an organization. It's not so much about having power in an organization. It's really about doing the work of getting Republican candidates elected. Well, and that's how you should base whether or not the party is doing what it's supposed to. 2014, we had eight. Then we lost our minority leader, seven. And then in 2016, we go down to six. Now we just lost our minority leader, five. So all of these results need to let us wake up and say, okay, something needs to change. So I hear you saying that the problem with the party is not so much what's going on inside in terms of conflict, although that might be a problem. You're saying the problem in bottom line is the metric of do we get candidates elected. That's what it is for you. Well, what has to change? In your vision, as you offer yourself for leadership, what are you saying needs to be changed? And what will you change? Well, and I would add to what you're saying is that, yes, it is about getting candidates elected, but it's very much so about how the internal organization works. So there's seven positions under the party chair that get elected. Secretary, treasurer, coordinating campaigns, candidate recruitment, coalitions, community service, and communication. So these seven positions are also elected that run honestly with this chair. And each of these people are supposed to have expertise in those areas. You bring up the fact that the Republican Party is not doing well with messaging. OK, so we have an elected chair person over communications. Now, what is the communications plan? Who is helping the communications plan? Do we have journalists? Do we have guys that have web design background? Do we have print guys, design guys, radio guys? How are we getting our message out there? Are people intuitively and creatively crafting message so that it resonates with this district or that district? No, we don't. And when we have candidate recruitment, are we targeting districts where we can actually win? Are we using a strategy that's based upon numbers? We don't need a guess. We know what areas are trending Republican voters. Are we purposely making a strategy to have that happen? Andrea, you obviously believe that something can be done to revive the party and turn it into a candidate winning an elections winning organization. But I wonder about that for a moment. Let me tell you why. I'm not so sure that parties make great candidates. But maybe great candidates make great parties. I'm thinking back to Linda Lingle, for example, the last governor elected here who was a Republican. And your election as well. From what you said, it really didn't happen that you got elected because your party went to bat for you or funded you or did anything for you. It was Andrea learning how to be smart about elections and having the kind of engagement of her public that got her to defeat an incumbent. So... And I would agree. One of the seven positions is coordinating campaigns. And one of the biggest things that I tell people is we lack mentorship. We lack the ability to mentor and help and teach somebody how to become a winning candidate, how to have messages that resonate with your district. And so in the event that we have elected officials that are distancing themselves from the party and these guys have run and won for office. But they are not mentoring. They are not helping. We are not recruiting. We are the guys out on the field playing the sport. We have the best insight on the game, but we are not part of the party. In that film, Chariots of Fire, there's that famous saying, you can't put in what God's left out. Are there the candidates out there? Are there the Republicans out there who have what it takes to win? I think so. And when people say, oh, we want to get more people like Andrea elected because this, that, whatever, I always tell them, the only way you're going to find more people like me is you have to have a purpose and a cause. And you were a graduate student in music at the time that you threw your hat into the room. Well, if you have a purpose and a cause and you're getting people to rally this purpose and this cause and we stand for something, then people will come out. But we've been standing for nothing. We have a platform that no one really knows about.  So if we are able to do those things, then yes, there are people ready to run.  No. And in fact, you've received some criticism for that. So it must be something that really drives you to do. Yes. Do you want to talk a little bit about that? Yes, I do. I mean, honestly, a lot of people say, okay, this is unprecedented what Andrea is trying to do. But at the end of the day, I look at where I work at it. I think about my effectivity as a legislator and we need somebody that's going to be able to go in there, mentor these candidates, but also diversify our caucus, meaning get people recruited that have multiple expertise and background. I've been in conversation with the majority leader in Arkansas who was actually in a similar situation. There were four out of a hundred Republicans, four out of a hundred and they are now up to 76. And it wasn't by accident. So when I talk with them about it, a lot of them are telling me that the strategy to make an effective caucus so that Republicans can do something in your state is far greater than what the party can do because you have to learn how to mentor these guys, teach them, make sure you got a doctor, you get a businessman, you get a lawyer, so that on all basis of law that you have coverage to make good policy. Who's thinking about that? Yeah. Do you think you could be that great candidate around whom a great party can be built? Yeah, I mean, I definitely feel like- I put you on the spot there. Well, I definitely feel like, if there was somebody that I felt like could lead, step up and get us to where we needed to go, I would stand down. But the more I look out and the more I see the party functioning, the more I think, if I don't start helping in doing something now in 2018, we may as well call it a wash or a loss. Well, it may be uphill for you that battle within the party in terms of party politics, but let me switch venue for a moment, go back to the House of Representatives. As minority leader, you're leading a very tiny minority. How many members? We have five. And how many members of the House are there? 51. 51. And if we put that in broader context, how many legislators, including senators, are there? 76, I believe. 76. And five of you down there, as the opposition vote in a body of 76 people, what is your strategy of being able to do more than simply say you wear the hat of being the chair? Well. Or being the minority leader? I think definitely I've learned that when you work together when you can, work alone when you have to. There are multiple Democrats that we see eye to eye on issues. And yes, you have to reach out and you have to say, you know what? On this issue, I agree with you. What can we do to work together? But you know what? On another issue, we don't agree. And that's fine. I respect your views. You respect my views. When we work together, we can. When we have to be alone, we do. So you're building a coalition around points of commonality when you can't agree? Well, it has to be that way. Because even though people think that the Democratic caucus is this huge body, they're not united either. So they have their differences, their discrepancies, their factions. So in the event that you can work across the aisle and get good public policy passed, you need to put down that guard of, oh, you're this, I'm that. And you need to start working together. And that's not just in the House of Representatives. That's across the state. That's with agencies. That's with city and county officials. This is the way we get things done. And everyone knows in Hawaii, it's about relationships. Building good relationships with people, finding ways you can work together. Let's zoom ahead. We've got a minute left. Let's say you're in politics 10 years from now. What will you like to have seen happen here in the state of Hawaii through your influence? I definitely hope to see more vision. What kind of vision? A vision for what? I think that in every department throughout the state, I don't know if we even have a vision of what we can become or what we want Hawaii to be. And obviously with a two year turnover for reps, four year turnover for senators and sometimes a four, eight year turnover for governors. There's a lot of missing, you know, moving pieces, but I would hope that we could envision a Hawaii where we not only get more local community involved in our government, but that we also get 20 to 40 year olds involved in what we're doing because there's a huge gap. Not only is this gap not participating, but they're moving to the mainland. What's the biggest problem we're facing that the legislature could do something about? Is it the economy? Is it housing? Is it cost of living? I think hands down quality of life, which is affected by all of those. So yeah, I think that addressing things that have to do with the economy and give or take maybe a bill or two bills won't do it, but the, I think the revenue, projected revenues for this year, 300 million shortfall. That's right, but we need solutions and I think you're part of the solutions. Andrea, thank you so much, Representative Topola, for being our representative and also being on the program today. Thank you. Glad to have you. My guest today, Representative Andrea Topola from the 43rd District, representing from Ely all the way out to Ewa Beach, has been with us and we're very, very glad for that. I'm Keely Akina with the Grassroot Institute. Until next time, on Think Tech Hawaii's Ehana Kako Aloha.


Thank you very much and it is indeed the right report. I was sitting back there panicking because the file was misnamed but this this is it. This is 2017. So indeed, let's get the screen, sorry. Yes, so these are indeed the members of our working group and we have since I last reported three new members including Jeff Botkin, Sandra Lee and Melanie Myers and Rudy had just introduced those of our working group who are also on council. The website for our working group obviously describes our charges and I'll organize today's report in relation to these responsibilities. The first is to provide input about the LC research program and its research priorities and in this regard we reviewed three aspects of the LC research portfolio. Embedded LC research, the duration of our one projects and the relationship of LC and health services research. I will also report on a couple of steps that we took as a group to encourage high quality applications to the research program. In my last report I talked about the fact that the group had articulated criteria or features of projects indicating when embedded research is warranted or is most appropriate. We used these criteria to review embedded LC research that's research where an LC issues, ethical, legal and social issues are incorporated into the design and conduct of a larger project or initiative. This review included looking at, I'll go back, yeah, included examining CSER to which the LC research program contributes approximately $500,000 per year and NSITE, a program to which it makes actually no financial contribution. We also reviewed the Emerge Network and the LC component of its work across its three phases. We determined that the majority of embedded research has been successful and has afforded positive return on the investment of the LC program funds and the time and the effort of the LC community researchers and program staff. We recommend that embedded research projects continue to be monitored for the effective functioning within the larger research project as well as their impact and productivity beyond the host project. To this end we suggest that future discussion of the working group might usefully explore development of metrics to evaluate the impact and productivity of embedded research because metrics that are employed in other contexts may not fully capture the value of this embedded research. This value may include its contribution to developing infrastructure for future LC research or its influence in both the LC community and the genomic research and clinical practice communities. Metrics employing observational and narrative approaches that note changes over time in practices and that note the experience of project investigators may capture impact alongside numerical measures like the number of publications. The working group also stressed that the need for the quality of proposed embedded research projects to be consistently incorporated into the overall priority score during peer review. We were asked to review the duration of R01 projects and discuss the appropriate period for such R01s. The NHGRI default is to fund R01s for three years with limited exception for longer awards. The rationale for this three year default is the fast paced nature of the field and the constantly changing technology. The question posed to us was whether this is an appropriate default for LC R01s. We discussed the circumstances that might justify a longer award period such as longitudinal or multi-site studies and the startup curve of new investigators. After reviewing the portfolio, the working group recommends that the project period should correspond to the proposed research question and methods and that applicants should be encouraged to discuss the appropriate peer project length with program staff prior to submission. And we noted that this may be especially important for new investigators in order to avoid there being a sense of or a reality of an in-crowd that's in the know and realizes that there could be exceptions to the apparent three-year rule. With the encouragement of council, we continued to explore the question of the appropriate relationship between LC research and health services research. While health services research is traditionally a large-scale effort requiring multi-year commitments and is thus expensive, there are topics we believe in health services research that have significant LC impact components and implications. Our discussion elucidated that health services research could provide data that call for normative analysis or that are needed to refine or strengthen the empirical components of LC study. We noted that conceptual research may inform or clarify components of health services research and that health services research embedded research projects may encourage the collection of longitudinal data with LC input into research questions and study design, thereby catalyzing subsequent LC research to address important normative issues that require longitudinal data to be collected for us to engage in that analysis. We recommend that the Division of Genomics and Society should promote health services research and LC research in other institutes and centers with other divisions and within the LC research program when this is appropriate and possible. We also recommend that the working group and LC research staff might usefully continue to discuss ways to encourage LC research on findings from health services research and projects that conceptualize health services issues and analyze their normative foundations and implications. To help encourage high quality applications from investigators, including those who are not familiar with grant writing and the process of NIH grant review, the working group encouraged LC program staff to post to the program's website sample applications and summary statements. This has been done as you can see and you can go there and visit and read and we are very grateful to the generous investigators who shared their applications and the summary statements they received. We hope that this effort may expand the pool of applicants as well as encourage those who already consider themselves to be members of the LC community. Then further, to expand that community, members of the working group proposed and participated in panels at the American Society for Bioethics and Humanities, the main bioethics LC oriented professional society meeting, and we discussed activities of the LC research program. We also are currently revising an article explaining the content, methods, and value of empirical, normative, and conceptual LC research with the intent of better informing our colleagues, specifically genomic scientists, about what we do, and why. The group also plans to publish announcements or explainers about the LC research program at professional and multidisciplinary meetings and in professional society newsletters. Now, finally, I will report on our activities in response to the charge that the working group should identify emerging issues or gaps in knowledge related to the ever-changing landscape of genomics and genomic medicine, as well as to find points of potential synergy between NHGRI and other institutes and organizations. The Precision Medicine Initiative presents opportunities for synergistic activities of NHGRI and leads us to identify gaps in knowledge and new issues warranting LC research. We were pleased to be informed of developments in the early days of the PMI by Joni Ruder, Director of the Division of Programs and Strategic Implementation of the PMI, and in turn, the working group offered its interdisciplinary expertise to assist in the initiative's design and launch. As many of you know, we drafted a memo in 2015 that was subsequently endorsed by Council urging that the PMI attend to issues of ethical, legal, and social import. In December of 2016, Genetics and Medicine published a commentary by the working group, which is an extension of that memo demonstrating the need for LC research in relation to the activities of the PMIs, all of us research program, and outlining an agenda for potential PMI-related LC research. The working group stressed that additional resources and additional research are needed because the PMI presents issues that are in addition to those already represented not only in the LC research portfolio, but also represented by the foci of the Centers for Excellence in LC research. On behalf of the working group, I attended the Sears annual meeting this past fall, and the range of issues being addressed within those Centers, which is illustrated only partially on this slide, demonstrates that the field is thriving and responding to emerging technologies and scientific questions, and is anticipating new issues and opportunities. Among those Centers coming to the end of their funding as Sears, discussion included ways of sustaining the infrastructure that they have built, and then those retiring or transitioning Sears and new Sears also discussed attention to training new LC investigators, increasing diversity among those investigators, and tracking the success of their increasingly diverse career paths. We note that many LC investigators or trainees, I should say, like other trainees within NIH, are not necessarily going into the typical tenure track positions, but are infiltrating and spreading LC attention in a variety of career paths. So to conclude, oh, and I will also point out that this image, which I took from Columbia's newsletter, which I happened to run across because they did a nice little feature blurb about the PMI commentary the working group had done. Anyway, I think it's a lovely bridge there of the DNA between the transitioning and retiring centers and down to the new ones. So we have the retirees in italics above and those new folks coming in. To conclude, I'd like to express the enthusiasm of the GSWG for the work of the division and of the LC research program and recognize the vibrant activity of the whole field, the interdisciplinary field of LC investigators, and especially the vast substantive and geographic impact of the LC research program. To this end, I wanted to point, as Eric did earlier today, to the fourth LC Congress that will be held in Connecticut in June. As he said, 190 proposals were submitted from 68 institutions and these included 28 international submissions representing 10 countries outside the US. So finally, I would like to thank the staff of the division and the LC research program and I will attempt to address your questions if I may. Thank you, Lisa. Questions? These are other things. Yes. Yeah, thanks, Lisa. Very interesting. I want to go back to one of your earlier slides where you talked about the need to develop metrics or to think more about metrics for the LC field. And at the same time, you made comments to the extent that the working group had assessed the embedded program to be successful. So I want to just hear what your, how the group looked at metrics in that particular context to make that determination. Right. So I think we, our assessment of success was based in large measure on metrics that are traditionally used of productivity in terms of publications, impact. But I, and I'll speak personally, having served on the advisory group to emerge the scientific advisory panel and then representing some of what I witnessed across three phases there to the working group and also talked about, and hence my reference to a narrative approach, the kinds of statements that investigators, and by that I mean, you know, scientists, not necessarily the LC investigators, the kinds of statements that they would make about the impact that the LC projects had on their work and how they had to change practices or were brought up short by a finding of some of the LC research and, and again, had to change practices or think about things in a, in a different way. And I think that it, in looking back, were, you know, at reviewing existing or completed embedded research, it was a combination of publications, citations, you know, public impact and, and references of this embedded research, but we also began to get a hint of, we thought that was really important, too. We're investigators in a meeting or, you know, not exactly in private, but not out in the published literature. We're saying, hey, this changed what we did. And in some ways we think that, that that is, I won't say more important, but at least as important as some of the articles, you know, that came out of, you know, best practices that emerged, emerged from Emerge or from Cesar or, or others. Yeah. I'd just like to add to that as somebody who worked on a Cesar project for the last five years at UNC, because I think equally important. Well, first of all, I really think that metrics, that this is really a tremendous opportunity to think about metrics in a, in a little bit more systematic way. I certainly agree with you about some of them, but, but I think the other really important part of this is the bidirectionality of the learning and influence and so on, because I think these opportunities with Emerge and Cesar and Insight provide something for LC researchers that they may or may not have experienced in the past. It's a, it's a great opportunity to be part of a team to, you know, go deeply into understanding what happens, you know, between collecting specimens and, you know, getting a final judgment about pathogenicity. So for me personally, and I think for a lot of people I've interacted with that, that those opportunities would not have happened, except in the instance where an investigator would, would be, you know, generous about inviting somebody into the project. So this was mandated, these, these embedded efforts. And, and so if we move forward with these kinds of things, I think there's really not such difficult ways to develop assessment of lessons learned on all sides. And two comments in response. One is that about the requirement that these, in some cases there was this requirement for an embedded project and we speak to the importance of having good solid peer review of those projects that are proposed, or if they're not specific standalone projects, the challenge and yet the importance of being able to evaluate the quality of what's proposed if it's woven through a scientific project or a clinical implementation project. There I think some of the metrics for reviewing a good project are very much the same as in the LC study section with the same, you know, positives of that and challenges of that. But I think there, I think the metrics maybe are a little bit more clear. I think looking back to try to measure impact is harder and, or at least is more unusual. We don't have stated metrics for that except for, you know, counting numbers of publications and citations. And it was very interesting. One of the panels at the American Society of Bioethics and Humanities, there were some, as I mentioned, there were how-to panels about the LC research program and talk to program staff and a little bit of cheerleading and a lot of education about that to people who weren't necessarily in the know. There was also a, I thought, terrific panel that was really intellectually substantive wrestling with the question that I think the field broadly of LC, bioethics, health law, so on, has wrestled with for a long time of, you know, do the ethicists become handmaidens to a project? Is there a risk of co-optation? How can there be a good collaboration that's really, as you say, bi-directional and mutually informative on this spectrum from doing the bidding of and reviewing consent forms to being the ethics police, neither of which do LC investigators want to be doing. What is the appropriate balance and especially the appropriate distance and the appropriate embeddedness? And it was truly one of the, well it was a very good discussion, I think, at that meeting. And I think catalyzing that discussion in itself is a very valuable thing for embedded research to have done. Shanita. Along those lines, I wondered if you could talk about, talk more about the manuscript that's under development, about normative research and how that fits within the portfolio. Right. So this manuscript in development, which you may have seen some, at least notes on or draft of, but not everyone did, it is born of attempting to articulate within the working group, but for an audience outside the working group, of what we mean by normative and what mean we mean by conceptual research. Pamela Sankar, our former chair and I sat down and we're working on a draft of this to pass back to our colleagues and realized that Pamela has always thought of normative and conceptual as being very, very similar and I, in my draft, was teasing the two apart. And suggesting that there's more of a meaning-making aspect of the conceptual and more of a prescriptive or analysis of values, descriptive analysis of values or prescriptive based on values recommendation, claim, that was the normative side. And so one aspect of this manuscript is to talk about those two different types of research. We also wrestle with the challenge that normative and conceptual research can be characterized as I just did in terms of what I'd call its content, but also its methodology and that it's different from laboratory science, epidemiology or empirical bioethics of doing a survey or doing a qualitative study of preferences or values or perspectives or uptake of a genetic test that it may involve legal analysis, normative analysis, and I'll go and that it may involve staking a claim in the beginning. Some scientists might say it's a matter of assuming what you want to prove, which is heresy, but the research then is does my claim stand up to real critical scrutiny and argument, sometimes argument on a panel, sometimes sitting and thinking very hard as a philosopher or as an ethicist or doing historical analysis to see whether that claim can be supported and trying to explain those sorts of issues for the benefit of people who, I'm a philosopher who asked me how do you do research if you don't collect any data? How do you get to be a professor? To explain to folks who think of research solely in terms of data collection and analysis solely, but that's the methodology, that is the goal of the paper and it will also and one reason it's been delayed is we've realized we also need to talk about that norm of empirical research and then go on and talk about what we consider to be distinctive. Thank you. One of the questions I had and maybe I may enlist Jay to comment on this, I mean it relates to the paper you and Pamela wrote in Genetics and Medicine about precision medicine initiative, Jay was on the original working group. I thought maybe you said it but I missed it, that you've given that paper I guess to one of the one of the major program directors there. Has that gotten traction in terms of any real programmatic development as part of the program? I don't know how much was actually written about if anything and think it was one of the disappointments is that the working group really never dealt very much with LC-like research within PMI, is that a fair, is that a fair statement Jay, pretty much, so I'm just curious is there any traction, any real traction as opposed to just being aware of your paper? Right, because it's the second time they've been given this because I gave the original letter from Doris Bye Council to the then leadership. Yes, so one point of clarification, it would not be accurate to say that it's a paper that Pamela and I wrote.  It's an artifact of where you where you publish that you get to list two names. So it is a product of the working group discussion and the real question though about is there traction? I think there is and there's been some discussion of it, however I don't think there's been discussion that I've heard from the people we'd really like to hear discussing it, working group and so on. I would also suggest that if I remember correctly December 6th or December 16th was not the best time between and events of the fall and events of December of holidays and so on to have kind of that kind of discussion taken up. I think there were a lot of distractions but I we are hopeful and we are going to be discussing. We have a working group call coming up this Friday and we'll be talking about what we can do to try to have the the agenda that we sketched. I mean it's not a point-by-point this is what should be done but trying to characterize a research agenda. We're going to talk about how to try to increase its traction or its impact. Thank you very much. Thank you. So we had kind of a late lunch break on the other hand the cafeteria is going to close upstairs but let's be respectful of Dr. Bianchi's time because she's here to speak to you. Can I ask people how fast they can get up the elevator back five minutes? Take the other elevator. I can lead a charge up the stairs. Can we be back in five minutes please? Alright. I'm going to break.


A copyright I think is very interesting because it affects something that is not necessarily related to technology. So it affects music or it affects writing, which could be just as important to people's welfare, but it is not captured in the patent system. Then the other thing that I think is really important about copyright is that it may actually affect the rate at which knowledge is created and the rate at which knowledge is diffused. So in the paper on the 1814 Copyright Act, we are trying to see whether longer copyright terms, a grant of longer exclusive rights, increases the price of books. Whether it makes it more expensive for readers to access a book when that book is protected for a longer period of time. And then how big that effect is, whether that actually that effect is large enough so that we should care. The paper is called Dead Poets Property. And the reason why we picked this title is because the main experiment compares books by dead authors with comparable books by living authors. And only books by dead authors benefited from the differential increase in copyright, whereas books by living authors, their actors are a control group. And they affected by all the other changes that happened in this industry at the same time, but they didn't benefit from the extension of copyrights to the same extent. So I think the way an extension in copyright increases the price of books is that it allows the copyright owner, who is the publisher, to maintain exclusivity for more years. So essentially, the copyright gives the publisher the right to prevent entry by competitors with a lower price addition. And I think our main contribution to this debate is a very narrow one. I think our paper is, to the best of my knowledge, at least one of the first that shows that longer extension in length of copyright actually do increase the price of intellectual assets. We can't really say whether this is good or bad yet, because we don't know how much does price increase contribute to encouraging creativity and how much, on the other hand, discourages diffusion. But what we know is that there is an increase in the price.


because girl it was time for my heavenly father to answer the prayer that I had put up to him 13 years prior and that's beautiful man I I can tell that it was something because I know so many people I've changed so many man I already know it's like sometimes like you you know like I say when I when I think about it just being a young girl you talk about coming from that dysfunctionality like it was tough in the home like something happened to where you felt like this ain't right you know I mean and I heard you speak on it on another interview but it's like but for you to be who you are now for you to help so many people with the movies and stuff that you've done we said at home during COVID and watch Puriflix too we couldn't watch Puriflix no more trying to cleanse ourselves because we hadn't had to look at each other for a very long time and all this other stuff and now I got to look at her y'all see she cute well I'm trying to find cute and we've been through hell and high water and I'm trying to figure out if this is where we gonna be right you pop on the TV different people pop on it encouraging and we say we don't want to listen at that no more because this right here we don't want to hear nothing but what's real how do we find Puriflix do you think you found it one day just looking through abs and stuff like that because I didn't know anything about this you have your Netflix you have all these other ones and when I saw Puriflix I'm like huh it's just a name alone sound like okay so when you look through it I'm like okay no cursing nothing really you know no sexual no this no that I'm like okay this is a great platform so you know that's when we started watching it and we're like and then you have so many different films on there and then of course war room is one thing that I'm telling you that I shared war room on Facebook like a million times listen because being married I would tell everyone that even today and I would get so mad if when I follow up I said did you watch it yet did you watch it yeah because when you call me tell me you having this this this problem you need to watch this I'm not gonna tell you what to do but you need to watch this this will help you and anytime I feel like I'm having problems in our marriage I will pull up that movie and watch that movie because to me I don't want to get no spoilers but you realize that you're not fighting I'm not fighting him I'm fighting somebody I cannot see you understand what I mean and every single time I watch that movie there is one part that gives me goosebumps and it's when Priscilla like she's she sends a devil out of her house I don't know where you are devil but I know you can hear me yeah and say get out can't have my marriage you can't have my daughter and you sure can't have my man and then she shuts the door and then she come back again I said and as a matter of I am so sick of you stealing my joy but that's changing too and I get goosebumps every single time she does that my joy doesn't come from my friends it doesn't come from my job it doesn't even come from my husband my joy is found in Jesus let me ask you a question like when when you was preparing for that part just give me a spill I'm gonna I'm gonna run down like like walking up to that situation how it even came together like how did she get that part no I want I want I'm asking you like I want to know oh it it some deep divine stuff see when when when things are lean mm-hmm and you're still trying to do the right thing and these roles are coming and they're not good for you to take and you're like how can I talk my way into it and or whatever and it not be so bad but I made a choice that I was going to be God honoring with the projects that I take I love that I had gone to a women of faith conference and in between the different women speaking they had a an actress who would do different scenes in monologues named Nicole Johnson and she was killing it too I had never seen anything like it and I was like okay God if you would just allow me to use the gift that you've given me the way you're allowing her I'll give you everything that I have I didn't want to beat Nicole but I did want him to use me in a mighty way and so as the years went on and the years kept taking I take this that this that but I got more involved in my church writing directing dramas and whatnot and then me and my husband we thought it was us who had decided to leave LA but I realized that that was not the case at all so anyway we leave LA and we moved to North Carolina why would an actress move to North Carolina hmm so anyway we were house hunting and the last realtor to show us a house saw a license plate on my then Ford Winstar minivan and it read the book I had a van I've only got one child and I had him when I was 103 and baby I was on my knees for him for a long time and then God did honor it but we were fostering so I needed a van to carry my foster kids around and anyway the lady the realtor said so the book your license plate what is that is that the book I said what book are you talking about she said you know the Bible I said yes so she asked where I was going to church I said honestly we've been going to different churches but we haven't found one that we felt God was telling us to stay grow loose and she said okay well you know what this weekend why don't you come down to my church if I give you the address would you consider I say sure so we went down walked in those doors baby the spirit was up in that place the doctrine was sound you always have to check your dog exactly can't let anybody just tell you whatever because there's a lot of crazy you know it mmm that's why you got to know it for yourself and so and the worship was on fire so one year led to two years led to three years led to eight years and then a gentleman said Karen the Kendrick brothers gonna be making movie I think you should audition I think you're the one they're looking for house that's why I'm here as far as my faith is concerned I believe in God just like most people he said I've seen how you served here the eight years that you have been here and I believe you're the one so he said I'm gonna send you some dial no I'm gonna give you their information send a picture of resume I did and I didn't hear anything back from them he asked me he said well have you heard from the Kendrick brothers I said no he said that's okay that's okay cuz they're gonna be holding auditions next week he's very important to me well let me get coffee right here in our church hmm so on the day of the audition you know the guy sent me the sides from Miss Clara he said and I know you the one cuz I seen what you can do so the day of the audition day of the audition I went into my closet found something that I thought would be appropriate for an 80 year old woman and then I found the wig that I thought would suit this Miss Clara character that I was envisioning so that was your wig in the movie it was a different way but you know I've got lots of weeks so I had a gray wig very similar okay and so I got dressed up and I went in in character and I stayed in character the entire time so if I asked you what your prayer life was like would you say that it was hard and when I was through they asked me to give my testimony and I gave it I gave the good the bad and even worse thank you I like it black Miss Clara you like your coffee room temperature no baby man then I laughed and when I got home the phone was ringing and they were offering me the role but see check this out the Kendrick brothers mm-hmm there's some praying brothers cuz they had interviewed well-known gospel singers and actresses but God kept telling them no mm-hmm because girl it was time for my heavenly father to answer the prayer that I had put up to him 13 years prior mm-hmm yeah and that's beautiful man I I can tell that it was something because I know so many people I've changed so many man I already know it I'm telling you she gives this movie to every friend every time that's she gonna solve their relationship with this movie and that's how she thinking I agree with her because there's so many jewels in it you know what was the most what scene or line from that movie was the most understanding the one that you hold on to that there were so many but one was sometimes you got to get out of God's way mm-hmm you got to plead with God so that he can do what only he can do then you got to get out of the way and let him do you know you can pray and you can talk in tongues and you can do a whole lot of things but if you don't leave space for God to come in and do what he says he will do mm-hmm you know cuz then we're sort of like becoming God not realizing well I'll do it I'll do I know just sit back you got to trust and in that trusting and sitting back then you grow your faith mm-hmm he said he will do it give him the space in which to work yeah we on boss talk one-on-one one-on-one yeah we gonna


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It's a nice patch Aristides Aquino And he does do those three dots on on a lot of his autographs Red legs Sean O'Leary. All right a couple more here We got Bobby Bradley 36 out of 49 dual relic and on-card autograph For Stephen George and the tribe Cleveland. This is for you. All right, and the last one good luck Last card is gonna be for the A's 21 out of 25 Three-color patch gold ink autograph. That is catcher Sean Murphy That's gonna go to Jackson and the Oakland A's and there you have it 2020 Padini immaculate baseball Random team number nine in the books the next half in the store jaspy's case breaks calm I'm Joe Jaspy and I'll see you next time for the next break. Bye. Bye


So, what do you think happened when I started making just enough to get by?  How long do you think that happiness lasted, by the way, guys? I didn't even notice it happened, right? And suddenly in my head I'm like, oh man, yeah, but imagine all the people I could influence if I was like running in the whole of Australia.  Now that I'm well-known as a dating coach, I'm stuck in the life of a man, right? My wants multiplied exponentially, okay? I was less happy having achieved that goal than I was before I achieved it, even though it was something that I very much wanted. It didn't actually bring the happiness that in theory it should have, okay? So this is what Hedonia graph actually looks like, when we, if you take someone who typically lives their lives pursuing any type of hedonistic result, okay? Something that short-lived what essentially do you get guys, you get this, you get day one, you start low, you go, I want to make myself happy, bam! Shoot up, yeah, I'm feeling great, I'm feeling great. How long does that last? We know it doesn't last very long. We shoot back down. The next day we say, ooh, no, no, no, I'm going to do something to make myself happy again, happy, happy again, bam!  You get this, this typical up and down. I know, I know a lot of you guys recognize this, okay? You recognize this and it might not be day-to-day, it might be one week to the other week, it might be hour-to-hour, but it's like it's up and down. It's up and down, okay? It's manic depressive, but it's not clinical, manic depressive, so, you know, none of you are taking medication for it. But that's the thing. This is what's going on.  Below the curve, not being satisfied, not being happy with the way your life's going. So what does it look like? Who can we look to for a role model for hedonistic living? For living your life, trying to keep that happiness bucket as full as possible, okay? Well, me personally, I like to choose this man here. He has, who would like to have some of what he's got? His money, his fame, his boyish good looks, his charm. He's got a lot of talent this guy, right? And let's face it, he's been filling that happiness bucket for quite a while. With women, with drugs, with success, money, it's coming in. And we all know that he's winning. He's winning, right? But it's not, and we all know it. This is not a happy person. This is not a guy for everything he's got.  We all know that. We all know that this common thing that, you know, happiness, money doesn't buy happiness, success doesn't buy happiness, having 50 women on hand doesn't buy happiness, right?  That's what, that's what he does, doesn't work so well, right? You know, I've got a very big, who here is a fan at all of Buddhist philosophy? I've got to have a few here in the audience, I'm a huge fan, I'm a huge fan. You know, religions are fascinating things for me, I'm not religious, but I've actually done a lot of reading about comparative religion and how religions form in the psychology and anthropology behind how religions like develop over time and one very interesting thing is if you read the Bible, the Christian Bible and you read that as an interpretation, not as heaven being this place where this person God resides, and you just read it as heaven being a state of enlightenment, nirvana, okay? There's actually a lot of really interesting parallels between the Bible and Buddhist teaching, but that's a story for another day. If you read it that way and then you look at statements like, you know, it's easier for a rich, it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle and a rich man to get in heaven, this is the thing. And if you've traveled very often, well notice that people in poor countries seem happier than people in wealthy countries. They have less, they have terrible, terrible, often irrigation problems, terrible, terrible police, corruption everywhere, right? Life is tough, life expectancy is down, and yet what, they're happier, okay? It's not about the stuff we have. And I find it fascinating that we've known this for thousands of years and still hasn't sunk in into Western psychology, Western way of thinking, okay, that there's something going wrong here, okay? So let's have a look at the other style. What have we got? We've got something called eudaimonia. And it manifests itself in the human brain in a completely different way. So eudaimonia, guys, eudaimonia is essentially a state of doing, a state of pursuit, okay? Instead of looking for a specific end outcome, eudaimonia is a state of pursuit of something you love, the state of pursuit of something you love. It's not about attaining, it's not about an end outcome, it's just a matter of being in the process of going for what you want in life. You know, James touched on that briefly, right? You've got to be a man that goes for what you like, but that's where the pleasure's going to come from. That's where the pleasure has to be derived from, you go for what you want. And the more you do that in life, the more you start being someone who becomes, hey, this is what I want, this is the direction I'm heading. The more you start to light up this eudaimonic happiness, okay? Most people would explain it, hey, we've all had it before, right?  How is your feeling about life in general, up or down? And it stays up, right? Stays up for a period of time, not indefinitely, but it stays up, right? It stays up if you're at uni and you've actually been doing all your assignments on time. Where does it go? It stays up, right?  Now I'm gonna focus on doing 50 other assignments. Tends not to be, we actually feel good about ourselves. Even if we look and go crap, I've got 50 others to go, we feel good. Hey, I've accomplished one, yeah, I'm on the way, okay? I'm in the process. So, you know, right, eudaimonic pleasures include things like hobbies, things that we enjoy, things that we love, right? Surfing, rock climbing if you may. I like some of this physical stuff, but it's gonna be different for different people, fitness, getting healthy, being in the process. If you go, I'm gonna be healthy, I'm gonna be fit, right? There isn't meant to be an endpoint goal, there really isn't. You are getting into shape, you are going to gym, right? I go to gym five, six days a week. Doing this, why? Not because I'm going on competition, not because I'm playing a sport, because I want to be in shape. I'm in the process of being healthy, okay? It's just an ongoing pursuit, and that makes me happy. It makes me feel good, because I'm going in a direction of, I'm in the process of achieving. Me, what I do, I love what I do, okay? But I'll tell you, something really, really dangerous, really dangerous for anyone. Anyone, you talk to any of the coaches here, it's the same deal. The second you focus instead on money and outcomes, and this is business, this isn't just teaching dating coaching or life coaching.  It really does, it's really dangerous, it's very hard. You've got to run a business, you have to turn a profit to make sure you pay the people who work for you, et cetera, et cetera. But it's very dangerous, you get to become focused on money, my coaching goes down, my happiness goes down, my life contentment goes down, everything goes downhill. I have to be focused on a state of attainment, ongoing state that this is the direction I want to go, I'm moving this direction consistently, consistently, consistently. That's how I feel my happiness bucket, not with this, not with this hedonistic, ooh, this makes me happy, so I'll throw it in the bucket, ooh, this makes me happy, no, this is what I love, so I'm going to pursue it. And being in pursuit of what I love, that fills my bucket, that makes me happy, that gives me confidence in who I am, it gives me clarity on who I am, and this is what you're going to look like. You're not going to stop having good and bad days. In fact, we're all aware of women's emotional cycles. A lot of you probably don't know men have cycles too. Our bodies actually go through hormonal cycles that just not as pronounced as a woman's and they're not timed around while bleeding from any part of our body. But we have them, we have them, so you expect to have an up and down day, doesn't matter who you are, you're going to have these ups and downs, but where do you spend most of your time? Above the curve, and where does it trend? It trends in an upwards direction, why, because the more you start pursuing this, the more content with life you become.


What is up you guys welcome back to another one if you're new to the channel. I am Goldpony and today We are in the new 2020 Hyundai Kona courtesy of Jack G and Volvo Hyundai in York PA And so the Kona itself isn't really that old of a car It was first introduced in the 2018 model year and it quite honestly is still a solid pick if you are out there right now And you were looking for an inexpensive all-wheel-drive vehicle. You should definitely consider the Kona So, what do you say? Let's go ahead and jump right into it and as always let's start with pricing It said there will be several different trim levels available for the 2020 Kona first one being the SE starting at $21,195 then you have the SEL which actually is the one we are in today that one is going to start at $22,995 SEL plus which is a new trim level for the 2020 Kona that one starts at $24,845 limited will start at $26,995 and ultimate starts at $28,845 And by the way that was all priced for the front-wheel-drive version if you wanted to go the all-wheel-drive route simply add $1,400 to any of those prices But so then when it comes to the power plant there are actually two different engine subs available for the Kona first one being the Two-liter naturally aspirated inline four-cylinder engine putting out a hundred forty-seven horsepower at 6,200 rpm 132 pound-feet of torque available at 4,500 rpm Power is sent to front wheels or all wheels to a six-speed automatic giving you MPG numbers 27 in the city 33 on the highway for the front-wheel-drive and 25 city 30 highway for the all-wheel-drive And then you have the other engine setup of course the more enjoyable one being a 1.6-liter turbocharged inline four-cylinder engine that one puts out 175 horsepower at 5,500 rpm 195 pound-feet of torque available at 1,500 rpm power again sent to front wheels or all wheels There were seven-speed dual clutch transmission giving you a zero to 60 coming in at 6.6 seconds That is crazy in a Kona with MPG numbers coming in at 28 in the city 32 on the highway for the front-wheel-drive 26 city 29 highway for the all-wheel-drive But then before we do any kind of accelerations I did want to mention there is a drive mode button on the Kona Just to the left of the shifter that's gonna give you two drive modes There's normal of course, which is what the Kona defaults to however there is also a sport driving mode And so when we put it in that sport driving mode the Kona will immediately Downshift holding the rpms at a much higher level and it will also adjust throttle response and steering sensitivity to a certain degree as well And but so now having mentioned all of that. I think it is time. Let's go ahead and do an acceleration test in the 2020 Kona and let's see how quickly we can get this one here up to speed All right It is loud not the fastest thing in the world now But then again, we do have the naturally aspirated setup as opposed to the turbo charge setup So it's not gonna be quite as fast as that one and I got to say it could use a bit more power So I'm gonna go ahead and recommend the turbo charge setup on this one at least But still if you were just using this for city driving you don't need to necessarily merge onto the highway Not that you would probably have any issues But still it is definitely with the naturally aspirated engine set up at least it's not the quickest car in the world there But so then to go along with that acceleration as always breaking is equally important And so as expected you will find four-wheel disc brakes that will come standard on the Kona for all-term levels And so far my short little driving stint today I've had no issues with the braking feel and Hyundai has traditionally been pretty good with the braking feel Never had any issues personally with any spongy brake pedals or anything like that touching on suspension and handling a little bit The suspension is actually this is one of the main things one of my pet peeves with the Kona to suspension is going to differ Substantially if you go with the front-wheel drive versus the all-wheel drive setup for the Kona And so let me explain here up front You will get an independent McPherson strut front suspension regardless of what setup that you go with however in the back This is where the suspension greatly differs in the back You will get for the front-wheel drive setup a coupled torsion beam rear axle However, if you want with the all-wheel drive you're gonna get an independent multi-link rear suspension Which is not only going to lead to better ride quality, but much better handling as well Therefore for what it's worth in my opinion The all-wheel drive setup is certainly the route to go with the new Hyundai Kona if you value things like ride quality and Handling when nonetheless either way you will get front and rear gas pressurized shock absorbers It's so as far as the ride quality goes. I've had no issues with the ride quality It is a little bit firmer than some of the other SUVs that I've driven like for instance the Santa Fe that I recently reviewed But still it is definitely doable So I suppose it is as expected for the Kona when it comes to the steering field It is actually noticeable difference between the sport and normal driving mode So if you did enjoy a little bit heavier of a weighted steering wheel go with the sport If not simply just leave it in the normal driving mode when it comes to cabin noise again It is as expected for the Kona no issues there and they touching on visibility is certainly not bad that second row headrest Do protrude up and they kind of hinder visibility I suppose it could fold that second row down if you didn't have any rear passengers But they do kind of hinder visibility ever so slightly But having said that when it comes to forward visibility there is a head-up display available with the ultimate trim level So that's gonna help you keep your eyes on the road a little better again We don't have that today, but that is gonna be there for you if you wanted it But enough with the driving dynamics you guys Let's go ahead and make our way to the exterior and check out this new bicolored 2020 Hyundai Kona And so starting up front you will find projector headlights with LED daytime running lights And the interesting part about the Kona and a lot of the recent Hyundai's is the daytime running lights are actually the top set of Lighting and just below that is where you're gonna find your actual headlights your low beam and high beam headlight So I always find that interesting. It's a cool little design element. I love the LED daytime running lights up top They definitely look good, but LED headlights down below there That is gonna come with the limited and ultimate trim levels And you will actually get the automatic feature for all trim levels in case you were curious And since we actually do have the SEL today I was gonna mention just below all of that you will find fog lights if you went with the limited or ultimate and Again, since we have the SEL you were not going to find them on ours, but take a look in the middle there You will find Hyundai's signature front grille always looks good I know some people wondering just above that front grille of this is additional ventilation right there That is not it's actually just a black plastic there So no additional ventilation, but it is a kind of cool design cue though Do you like the design of that? But now let's go ahead and make our way to the side of this one roof rails up top They will actually come standard on the SEL trim level and up Therefore that is why you're looking at it right now For your privacy glass is going to come with the SEL trim level and up once again There is also a floating roof line near the back a nice little design element there Now I did want to mention somebody is going to ask this because We do have a different colored roof than the actual body of the vehicle the way that works is certain colors You will get a different color roof. I think there is a blue with a gray roof as well But today, of course, we do have the red exterior with the black roof But depending on the color setup that you go with that is an option. It is available for you there But also you guys could probably see there is a crease just above the door handles there That also looks very good in my opinion nice little design element there But now let's go ahead and take a look at the side mirrors here Body colored power adjustable side mirrors will come standard heated side mirrors are going to come with the SEL trim level and up And you will get integrated turn signals you guys can see there also Standard on the SEL trim level and up and now zooming out a little bit Let's take a look at the wheel setup here SE trim level is going to give you 16 inch standard alloy wheels as the L trim level on SEL plus It's going to give you 17 inch alloy wheels And if you want with the limited or ultimate you will find 18 inch alloy wheels and now the only thing perhaps the only thing The only design element that I think could be improved upon for the Kona Maybe on the top trim levels at least is that plastic cladding around the wheel wells Both in the front and in the back as well as the side skirts But if they made maybe a trim level that would turn that into a body color design element Definitely wouldn't mind that but having said that they may very well be my only constructive criticism for the Kona as far as design goes But now make your way to the back of course up top you will find a rear spoiler with an Integrated brake light just below that you are going to have a rear window wiper there Just below that if you were looking for LED tail lights That is actually going to come with the limited and ultimate trim levels in case you were curious And they do have a nice sleek look to them And that's where you're going to find the turd signals as you guys can clearly see as far as the rear bumper goes Upper trim levels are going to get some silver accent trim on the bottom part of that Although the SEL will not and just below all of that There is a single exhaust outlet down there So you guys know what we have to do next as always here is that exhaust clip And super now since we are around back to open that rear lift gate There is a button on the key fob that is going to unlock it So that is simply what I use and once that is unlocked you can simply open it up there But once opened up cargo capacity is going to come in at 19.2 cubic feet If that was not enough space there is a 6040 split meaning you can fold those rear seats down bumping that up to 45.8 cubic feet did would also mention in the cargo area there. There is some in-floor storage That's always convenient as well as some grocery hooks and a 12 volt power outlet That is all pretty standard these days, but that's always nice But making our way up to the rear leg room that comes in at 34.6 inches. So for reference, I mean even six feet tall This is how much space I have back there. There's your passengers are actually also going to find a rear center armrest with cup holders However, maybe a constructive criticism of the Kona. There is no rear ventilation However, on the other hand, some will say the Kona is a crossover. It is small enough that you don't actually need it So one would think the ventilation up front would easily travel to the back So this rear passengers would be just as comfortable But don't want to mention it because a lot of crossovers and SUVs you will have rear ventilation to keep everybody comfortable But other than that the rear seats were pretty comfortable overall But making our way to the front seats cloth surfaces will come with the SESEL and SEL plus trim levels Leather surfaces are going to come with the limited and ultimate trim levels and with those two trim levels actually an Eight-way power adjustable driver seat will also come standard with power lumbar as well And if you want with the SEL trim level, which is the one we have today You will actually also find heated front seats both driver and passenger in three different stages And those buttons are going to be located just to the left and the right of the shifter there So that's going to be there for super cold days in Pennsylvania, of course But then take a look up front at the steering wheel it is tilt and telescoping for all trims It will come leather-wrapped for the SEL trim level and up as far as the bolsters go They are quite comfortable not too thick but not too wimpy either So it is pretty much as expected for the Kona. Then when it comes to the startup Let me first start by showing you guys the key here You do have your Hyundai logo on the one side end when you flip it over lock unlock and again that button to unlock The rear hatch there, but it is actually going to be a push button start if you want with the SEL trim level and up So all I am simply going to do is simply put my foot on the brake and press that engine start button Which is actually located just by the driver's right knee there But so then once started up tachometers on your left speedometers on your right There is a small digital display front and center giving you things like how many miles you have left until you hit empty Outside temperature and there's a ton of other things you can scroll through to and to do that There's actually steering wheel mounting controls on the right side there But it's also going to give you things like your safety features also when you need your next oil change That's always handy trip a trip a and there is a digital speedometer Which is what I would personally leave it on so that is all very well laid out up there But now taking a look at overall interior quality wireless phone charger is going to come with the SEL plus trim level and up And really in my opinion what I found doing my research here the SEL plus trim level That is probably the main addition to that particular new trim level for 2020 is the wireless phone charger So if you wanted that at the cheapest price possible SEL plus is where you want to be Homeland controls are going to come with the limited and ultimate trim levels as well as a power sunroof for those two If you wanted to power sunroof however with the SEL trim level you can get it as an available option But just in front of the shifter. There's actually a bunch of different hookups You have two USB outlets auxiliary port 12-volt power outlet just above all those hookups There is a small cargo area you almost would not have been expected to be there, but it is and that's pretty cool That's that's going to be there for you just behind that There is an all-wheel drive lock button just to the right of the shifter I didn't want to mention that because I have that on my Hyundai Santa Fe I have used that plenty of times when it has snowed here in Pennsylvania Definitely powered through the snow every single time very nicely. So I would recommend that for when it starts snowing If you went with the all-wheel drive model of the Kona that is just behind that You'll find two cup holders and just behind that there is a center armrest for the driver and passenger And there is a decent size cubby area just underneath of course as well But now let's make our way to the tech display and this is one thing Hyundai always gets right one of the easiest systems to use But of all the manufacturers I have used this is seriously one of the easiest ones that I have come across but Seven-inch colored touchscreen display will come standard with all trim levels But the ultimate the ultimate is actually going to give you an eight-inch color touchscreen display and with that upgraded display You will get factory navigation with that as well. However, I really don't think you need factory navigation system in this age anymore Reason being because with the seven-inch color touchscreen display for every single trim level You will find Bluetooth and audio streaming as well as Android Auto and Apple CarPlay So if you don't have a smartphone, then you might need factory navigation system But if you do have a smartphone simply hook it up to the Kona via USB cable I was telling you about those USB outlets and you have a free navigation system that you don't have to pay for updates with Through the manufacturer or the dealer. It is constantly updated. It catches speed traps for you as well It has done that for me plenty of times. That's definitely quite nice Also will tell you the speed limit of any given road. So that is all standard through I know my Android Auto that I use every single day. It's definitely nice But also what there you can adjust climate control course You can adjust your radio settings and when it comes to the sound system on the Kona Six speakers is going to come standard with SESEL and SEL plus if you want with a limited or touring You're gonna find an eight speaker infinity sound system But since we have the SEL today, we do have the six speaker sound system So let's go ahead and turn on the radio see what we got playing today and let's test out the clarity of this one Honestly, it's pretty much as expected for the Kona. It's not bad. It doesn't have a ton of bass It's not gonna be quite as good as the eight speaker infinity sound system But it is honestly just enough for the Kona. So if you want with the six speaker sound system It's definitely gonna get the job done if you're more into music and rocking out Go with the eight speaker infinity sound system But so then last thing on the tech display I wanted to mention is when you do put the Kona in reverse You will find a review camera for every single trim level letting you know who or what is behind you Which is always is going to lead us into safety And so to start there are front side and side curtain airbags in the back You're gonna have latch aka lower anchors and tethers for children for the rear car seats Also back there rear child door locks as well as well as the tire pressure monitoring system That will also come standard But another thing Hyundai does really well as standard safety features They will include for every single trim level lane keep assist forward collision avoidance assist and driver Attention warning the driver attention warning. I remember first seeing our Mercedes Benz It is now trickled down for every single trim level for the Hyundai Kona. That is pretty sweet Anyways, SEL trim level then is going to add a blind spot monitoring system That is the little cars icon in the side mirror there So it's gonna let you know when you're on the highway if somebody is in your blind spot So you don't go turning into them also with that rear cross traffic alert and lane change assist Then lastly the ultimate trim level is gonna add a little bit more including adaptive cruise control Parking distance warning and pedestrian detection. And so that is about it for this one you guys Thank you so much for watching be sure to like the video and subscribe For free to follow me on social media at the bottom of the screen there and I will see you guys in the next video Stay Gold