The following is a presentation of TFNN. Trade what you see with Larry Pezzavento. Call now toll free at 1-877-927-6648 or internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER>. Now, Larry Pezzavento. Okay, looking good, Billy Ray feeling good, Lewis. We're going to post the chart today of the DAX for our chart. As you can see, we had a really nice ABCD pattern down there yesterday. Maybe that's the reason why we had a good rally, but we didn't have anything like this particular pattern because we were still quite high up, but we'd had a couple of really hard days down during Monday and Tuesday and early Wednesday.  By the way, folks, these charts that I posed for the DAX and the FTSE, they come for Mr. Alan Smith over in the UK, been a student for many years, has become a very good friend, and he's nice enough to send his charts on to me so that I can share them with you here in the den because I really don't do any DAX trading or FTSE trading. I've traded the DAX a few times when I've been in seminars in Europe and it trades just like the S&P, that you can't tell the difference on the chart. Well, you can't tell the difference on any of the charts, but that's a really easy one. Let's take a look at the FTSE, and then I wanted to make a quick comment here about Tom Hougard. Let me get this up here for the FTSE, and you'll be able to see it's much weaker here, and it has been much weaker for quite some time. We'll get this up here. There we go. We'll get this right up here. There you can see the FTSE had the ABCD. You can see the blue Thunderbolt there. Really nice setting it right. Just a little below the 61% retrace. We get a huge high going up to make a three-drive to a top pattern, and then bada-bing, bada-boom. You can see it has a pretty big drop. That's equivalent to what we've done here in the Dow Jones and in the S&P. Now my comment regarding Tom Hougard. Tom has a telegram site that you can go there and view it if you like. It's TraderTraumaTelegram, and he posts all his trades, and he gives a lot of great information. He gives free books, free, just a lot of free stuff. He doesn't charge for anything, and it's all free. He's got several thousand people in that room. I think right around 2200 folks.  I mean, people, I can understand when you're dealing with the public that this kind of stuff happens, but it's really, really sad. He's taken a vacation. He already took the vacation, and then they started to come in and bombard him with all this kind of things that were just totally untrue. Fortunately, the bulk of the people knew exactly what was happening, and they started arguing back and forth. So, I mean, if there's a recipe for frustration in this business, it's try to please everybody, because that is not going to happen. There is just no way that that's going to happen. So, anyway, we certainly enjoyed having Arch Crawford as our guest yesterday. I'm going to have lunch with Arch and Byron Tucker today, which will be a lot of fun for me, because we've been friends with these guys for a very, very long time, and we get to visit with them. Now, as I left you yesterday, oh, I did want to bring a couple of charts up that I think are very, very important. First of all, let's look at the E-mini S&P here, what we've done here thus far in the last few days. Thanks, Mr. Z. I appreciate the comment. You'll see the big ABCD, the downside down there at 3070. Remember that was really close to that 382 retracement that we talked about. Then the market came up. It made yesterday, it made a 61% retracement there, as you can see, and then we exploded to the upside and where do we stop? That's the 61% retracement of the whole move. That's just 3125. So far, we haven't taken that out. We could easily, but that's neither here nor there. It's very important that 3125, because if we take it out, the next one you're looking at is 3140. And as you know, by tweet, by tweet, these things can always go a whole lot farther than you might want to think that they can, because this is why the market has given us a chance to protect ourselves by using stops. So that's a very interesting one. Now, here is another one. I sent the video out on this last night, I believe. I think I'm pretty sure I did. And you'll be able to get this up here and take a quick look at it. This is the crude oil, the Jan crude oil. We got up to 5900, folks. You notice that little red D up there? That's at 5895. And from there, it dropped to 90 pips in a matter of about 30 seconds. I don't know where it's trading now, but it had a big drop from what someone told me right after hitting that perfect ABCD now. Do we know whether this ABCD is valid or not? No, we don't. All we know is that it backed off almost a full dollar after the sell-off. Now, if it goes back above that, that would tell you that this thing is not right and it's going to be going down. Ruby said we're looking at platinum is going to 880 and then to 850 as we talked before. Well, that's a possibility. Ruby, once in a while, these things work pretty good. Let's take a quick look here at Ruby's chart on the, give me one second so we can get this up here at the platinum and we will see what it looks like. Yeah, we're getting pretty close. Let's just get this up here one second here and we'll be able to take a look at it. Yeah, we're at the 15. Yeah, we're there at the 80. We're getting down to that level by golly. That's what it looks like. Well, we're still sort of negative to the goal because we've not been able to get above that 1490 level which was really important. That was at, hi, we made the other day and now we're at 10 bucks below that. So the platinum does look good. The platinum looks really good Ruby for two factors. First of all, that's going to be a double bottom there. Excuse me, I mean you're going to have two targets exactly at roughly the same price, 840 and that's only 40 bucks from where we are right now and that will also be a 61% retracement of the low that we made way back in June. So I would really watch that one very, very closely. It looks like it's going to be pretty interesting but we get to that spot here for sure. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to have Bill Meridian on this week. He's only one day left but we are going to have Tom Hougard on tomorrow.  He tried to help people. I mean he really does. He gave that beautiful book out. He's not a professional writer but he tells it like it is in there and he bears his soul about what he's doing and I think anytime that you can get inside someone's head to talk to them about that I think it's very important and he certainly walks his talk as they say in the trade. What was that? Walking tall with a Buford purser? 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Larry, in the newsletter, you sent out a chart of the ES this morning earlier and it shows the, it shows them really perfect Fibonacci retracement and it hit the 618, and now it's pulling off of that at the 3125 level. I'm assuming that this would be, you know, you would put a stop above that 618 level and I don't know how you determine the number of kicks you would go above that, and this would be a pretty good entry point. Again, no guarantees, nothing works 100% of the time, but at the moment the ES is slightly pulling back, not a whole lot, but it's pulling back somewhat off of that 6.618 retracement. Yeah, Bill, it was perfect. It hit 3125 and, you know, you're trading, this is a half-hour chart that I posted, but on a half-hour chart, you can get by by using a 6-point stop, which is $300. Well, you know, this contract's worth $150,000. So, I mean, $300 is really a very, very minuscule amount to see if you're going to be right or not. So, if you sold it up there around that 25 level, your stop would be $31.31, so you're only risking $300. So, that's what I put that there for, is to let you know that it's the amount of money that you have to risk to see if you're going to be right or not, because you don't know whether these patterns are going to hold or not. You know, in fact, it hasn't moved very much. I think we're trading at 3119 right now, you know, maybe it'll work, maybe it don't. And the slightest little tweet that could come out of Washington or Timbuktu, and you can see it 20 points higher, 20 points lower in these kind of markets. Now, I understood, Larry, perfect. What a great tutorial that was, and that was very good. Terrific, thank you, Larry. Hey, thanks for calling in, Bill. I really appreciate it, and may God bless. Okay, folks, as I left you the last time, we were talking about, my grandmother's restaurant, Louisa's, there in Derhout, Indiana, it was 1978, and I had just met Larry Bird. He was a junior at Indiana State University, and he was having dinner with one of my mentors and very, very dear friends, Lou Mies, who owned Mies & Company, which later was bought out by one of the big inclamorants, and Lou lives down in Naples, Florida now at Larry's Country Club there, and it's been a good time. But I did get to meet him, and I was able to attend several of his birthday parties that are always, his birthday was December 4th, but the parties are July the 4th, there in Derhout, Indiana, out of Max Gibson's Lake. It's a big fish fry and stuff, and it's always a lot of fun. So let me get on to the story. This is the same restaurant that Ruth Miller and her husband would always eat in, because they lived in Farmersburg, just south of Derhout, and she taught at Indiana, and she was an economics professor there, and I didn't know her very well. I knew her husband, John, and their son, Terry, very well, because I traded soybeans for them while I was at Drexel, and we did gold and silver, too, but we had a very, very lucrative business going with making some money, which was good, but she would go into this restaurant, and many years later, this is now 1986, and she sent me a little note on a napkin from the restaurant. My aunt, who owned the restaurant at the time, took the note and mailed it to me, and there in, I was living at Avila Beach with Raphoni there at the beach house, and that little note said soybeans, I think it was November soybeans, were gonna go off the board. Yes, it was November soybeans, would go off the board around, whatever the price it was, 865, and I wasn't trading, I was still doing expert witnessing for Gibson Dunn and Crutcher and Kiesl and Loga there in California. I was able to pay the bills and having a little bit of fun. I was going through a divorce, I wasn't trading, whenever I have something like that, you just stay away because you're never gonna do anything right. Anyway, that price came up, and I happened to look at it, and so I still had John's phone number, and so I called, and she said, well, I know we haven't talked very much because you always spent time with John and Terry, but I've been doing a lot of work in astrology and I can show you, I know you really like Fibonacci, but I can show you how these relationships are related to Fibonacci. And she said, why don't you come down to Florida? She was living down there in Sarasota during the winter, and she said, why don't you come down and spend a month. And she was remarried now to a really nice fellow from Illinois and another farmer.  So I didn't have anything to do for Thanksgiving. So what I did was I hopped on a plane and I went down to Sarasota and I was going to spend a couple of weeks. I ended up spending just about six weeks, as I recall, and I got back right about the first of the year and I had all kinds of papers. I mean, my goodness, I had everything. Well, we had done so much work. It was unbelievable. We had Neil Michelson from Astro Computing, you know, giving us the dates. We had 20, but you know, showing us the chart patterns. And so we were matching up these aspects with these things on the charts. And so I got back and I had well over 300 pages of stuff. And so I had it spread out all over the dining room table there. And I knew I had to write a book. That's what my plan was. But I didn't know where to start or do anything. But it was right at the first of the year and they were having a big Capricorn party for all the people there at the beach that had birthdays in January. And one of the people that was there was Pam Hearth. She was the chairman of the publishing department and English department at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. And she saw all these papers. I had moved them into the bedroom, you know, when the people were there and she walked by and she saw all these stacks of papers and she said, what's that for? And I said, well, I want to do a book. And she said, oh, she said, please let us do it for you. And I says, what do you mean? She says, well, we have a grant from the U.S. government. And we're trying to find someone that we can do a book for. We want to put it all together, the footnotes and everything. And I said, well, what's that going to cost me? She said, well, it's not too bad. She said, all you have to do is file a $50 fee with the U.S. government and non-refundable, of course. She said, but we can take it over and we'll do the whole book. Well, that was a no-brainer for me. I packed up the stuff the next day. I took it up to the university. And I said, here it is. I said, I don't know what to do. And she said, don't worry. She says, we'll do everything. We'll do the cover and everything. You let us know how we do it. Boy, in about, it was about two months later, she came back with just an absolute, I was nearly in tears because it was exactly the book that I published, Astro Cycles, The Trader's Viewpoint. Had all the diagrams and she had prepared a really good front and back cover, and it was really good. So now all I had to do was to sell it. That's going to be the second part of this show today is how I started to sell the book because very, very, very instrumental in where I am today just from what went on during these times, early 1987, when I finished it up. But I'll cover this when we get back. If you have any questions about the charts that are going on, I'll be happy to do it. But frankly, the reason why I'm doing this, I'm not going to do any more writing. There's not going to be an autobiography. So all I'm going to do is to share some stories. I've got a lot of stuff written, and I'll share bits and pieces of those stories. 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He was living in Rancho Santa Fe at the time. One of the nicer places to live in Southern California. I called him. I told him I had an idea of what I had done. He said, come on down. He said, well, have lunch and I'll take a look at it. I drove down there the following day and it was about a five-hour drive from San Luis Obispo. I got there. He said, look, he said, let's have lunch and then let me read this and come back in about two hours. And he said, here, take the Rolls Royce and go for a ride. He had a brown Rolls Royce and I laughed at him.  I was a little intimidated. But anyway, what I did was I went and I, you know, I just, I don't remember exactly what I did. I think I went to a coffee shop and I had a Coke or something and waited a couple hours. I came back and he said, what do you have in mind? I said, well, what I'd like to do is if we could co-publish it, you know, Larry Williams with Larry Peseveno. And he looked at me and he said, Larry, he said, I'd love to do that. He said, but I really couldn't do that. And I said, OK, I understand. He said, no, not for the reason you might think. And he said, the reason is, he said, this is a home run. He said, I would be taking a lot of money away from you if we co-publish this and you can do this yourself. I said, I don't even know where to start. He said, look, he reached in his briefcase file cabinet and he pulled out this list of about 3,000 people. He said, this is a list. He said, I think it's relatively current, but I'm not really sure. But he said, all of these people have been interested in some of the esoteric stuff that I've done over the years because he had done some work in astrology too. He said, use that as a base to see if you can get some business. So he gave me the list, copied it out, I took it back to San Luis Obispo and then I went over back to the university and I asked him, what do I do now? And they said, well, what we'll do is we can go to the Handicap Center and they'll hand-address all these envelopes. We'll send out a one-page flyer to sell the book. And so I picked a price of $89, which was a nice Fibonacci number. And so I sent out those 3,000 envelopes with their little flyer in it. And then I sent those out on a Tuesday and I started to wait to see when I'd get my first business. And it came in Friday morning at about 05.30 in the morning. And it was Irving Feldman from New York City. And he said, I'd like to buy the book. And I said, no problem. And I said, here's how you send the checkies. What do you mean send the checkies? No one's going to send the check to you. He said, you have to have credit cards to do this. I said, well, I don't have that access. He said, well, how do you expect to sell any books? I said, well, I figured people would send me a check. Yeah, they say they will, but they won't do it. He said, you've got to have credit cards. So I said, well, I know how to get credit cards. So that was real early in the morning. I called Michael Weintraub, who owns the Michael's furs and leathers there in San Luis Obispo. And he and his father were very dear friends of the family. And his father was a furrier from Santa Barbara. And he had all the accounts that I needed. He even had diners club, believe it or not. So he had American Express and all the visa and all that stuff. And he was retired. And he said, yeah, you can use these cards. He said, you're not going to sell very many. He said, just put a little bit back for taxes. And he said, yeah, we can do that. And so I had it set up within about an hour. And all the billing went through Mr. Milton's furs out of Santa Barbara for astro cycles that first got started. So I called Irving Feldman back and I said, okay, I've got the cards going. And he said, well, how much is a newsletter? And I said, I don't have a newsletter. I'm selling a book. He said, well, the people want to know what these dates are. He said, look, you got to have a newsletter. And he said, you might as well have a hotline. And I said, what kind of doctor are you? He said, I'm internal medicine. I said, how do you know this stuff? He said, well, I've been around a long time, which he had been. And then I had the book. And I had the newsletter, a book, and a hotline. So he said, let's, we figured it out. It came out to $377, a Fibonacci number for the whole thing. I said, oh, I said, I don't think I'm going to sell many at that. He said, well, you've already sold one. That's me. So I started off my day at $377.  And so at the end of the day, that was Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I was still taking orders. Monday morning, I had $33,000 in the bank. And it built from there. So it was really, it really took off and did really well. And I was really nice about it. The book got some nice accolades from the cycled people and stuff. But the main thing was, is I've never had anybody ask for their money back on these books. So that made me feel pretty good. And they're not very expensive, but they still have a little bit of information. So that's really how I got started doing it. I did the newsletter from 1988 through 1993. And then I just got really interested in artificial intelligence and some other stuff. And I just didn't like writing it anymore. So I basically stopped it. So that's how I got into the astrology part. I've seen really good glimpses of how exciting it can be. But folks, I've never seen the Holy Grail. I thought I've had a few times, but it's not out there. The Holy Grail is in the nine-inch cycle, folks. That's a cycle from your left ear to your right ear. That's the one that really means anything. So just keep in mind it has nothing to do with these patterns. It has nothing to do with astrology. It's all about the psychology of what you're looking at when you're looking at these markets.  You see that in Tom Hougard's book, how he did that. He learned to disassociate himself from technical analysis and realized that what he had to do was to take the knowledge that he had and convert that into something that gave him risk control. And that's really what the bottom line is all about. So those are just a few of the things that I learned over the years that there is no Holy Grail. And believe me, I searched a long time for it. It could have a long time ago to looking for it, but it might be there. And look at Jim Simmons, folks. He's only right 50% of the time, and he's the best there is in the business. No one's had a record like he has. 39% a year for 30 years? Give me a break. Anyway, that's what's going on. So 877-927-664. Oh, there's one other sequel to the book. This is my favorite part. It was my birthday in July of that year, July of 87. And I was really going strong, but the stock market was going straight up and everything was going good. And I had a birthday party. And John Rafoni, who I used to live with John now, is living at the big house up in Pismo up on the cliff. And so we had a party. And Fred Grant there in San Luis Obispo, the ophthalmologist, had a big house, and they wanted to do a big barbecue.  And Fred had two kids, two daughters that were at Cal Poly. And they're a very attractive girl. So as usual, all the boys were congregating around these girls. And so there were about 100 people there. They had a big basketball court. And because everybody knew us from Indiana and a big Larry Bird fan, they gave me a number 33 Boston Celtics jersey. And so I was wearing this jersey. And I will finish this next part. I think you'll like this next part.<PHONE_NUMBER>. If you're in the CD market and looking for a secure investment, the Tiger First Mortgage Program may work for you. The security for these first mortgages are building lots in the tax opportunity zone in St. Petersburg, Florida. 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And it was supposed to be a surprise birthday party, but I finally figured it out that there was going to be a party. And there were about 100 people there, which was nice. And they had brought both my daughters. My one daughter was going to school at Becky's, somewhere near where Mr. Basil Chapman lives. And the other one was at UCLA. So they came up for the party. And so I had this green shirt on and Larry Bird shirt. And these kids from the college were there. They were college bad. They played on the college team for San Luis Obispo. And they were out playing on the beautiful basketball court that Fred Grant had built for his daughters who played basketball. And so they were out playing. And they were shooting around and stuff. And I had more than a few glasses of wine. And so they started chiding me about being from Indiana. Come on, play with us. Show us what you got. And they kept saying, come on out. And so I said, all right, all right. So at that time, I was still in really good shape. And I still played. You know, I used to go out and shoot around, which I was pretty good at shooting. I was very good. So I told them, OK, let's play horse. Those of you that you try to match the basket that you shoot one and the person's supposed to match it. I said, OK, we'll play horse. But the old thing is you guys can't shoot anything closer than 15 feet. You've got to be farther back than 15 feet so that I have a chance because I can't dunk the ball or anything like that. So these have got to be trick shots. Oh, no problem, no problem. I said, let's make it a little more interesting. And I pulled out a $100 bill. I said, on the concrete there. I said, OK, let's play five games, $20 each. And let's see who wins. Oh, they started lining up. There were five of them, five or six of them. They were, please, please play. Put some more money out. Put some more money out. So I didn't know what was going to happen. So I went out behind the bushes. There was about 25, 30 feet from the basket. And I fired one and nothing but net. And then I fired another one, nothing but net. I took the first guy out in five shots. Now they were a little bit reluctant. Folks, I was absolutely on fire for about 30 minutes. And then the combination of old age muscles and the wine got to me. And I could hardly hit the bank board. But by then, I had picked up about $80, which I gave it back to the kids. But it was really funny. The funny part about this, my daughters were there. And then they knew that I knew how to play because they had seen old pictures and stuff. But anyway, four or five years later, I'm in Los Angeles at a dinner. And the waiter comes up to me and he said, you don't remember me. He said, but I was at your birth party. Birthday party in 1987 when you destroyed those kids. He said, I thought that was the coolest thing I ever saw. And I always remembered that. It was really kind of funny. OK, that's enough. Let's move on. Anybody have any more questions here in the den? That'll be the end of that. I will try not to do any more of this. But that's pretty much what it is. Yes, they called Larry Bird the Hick from French Lick because he's from French Lick, Indiana. And he was given that nickname by Al McGuire. Who was a big fan of Larry Bird? Of course, when they had that big game in 1979, the finals between Magic and Michigan State and Kansas City. Is that coffee? Do you want to look at Bob? I don't really have an updated coffee chart because I'm updating data and believe me, I'm in a disaster situation in coffee. I still believe, is it above 120 now, Bob? Because the last time I did check it, I believe it was 120. Remember, Ruby and Mr. Z, we're talking about coffee. Look at that, 124. You remember when Mr. Z and Ruby were talking about that puppy when it was trading at 96 bucks a pound? Hello, that's a hell of a move, Ruby and Mr. Z. And that's why being in the den here can help some of you folks. There's some really smart folks in there. They post their trades, what they're doing. They post their stops, and that's a big help. So if you're alone as a trader, take a look at the TFN in den because they've got some really, really smart people in there that are posting some great stuff, which is really good. Okay, I believe that it's definitely a breakout because once we went above the 120 area, Bob, we did break out. You know what? I do have that. Yes, what am I talking about? I have a... It only takes me a few minutes to catch up these days, but once I get moving, I'm all right. Let's get up here. We get up to the coffee. Where are your coffee? There we are. Yeah, here we go. Oh, wow. There we go. Look at this. We even talked about this last week. There we go. This is what we were looking at. There's the target we were looking at was 123. And we're right there right now. There's your ABCD pattern. Bada bing, bada boom.  Look down there in October. You see that double bottom, Gartley pattern at 93? That's when Mr. Z was letting it be, and Ruby was on the tee, telling you this is where it's going to be. And here we are at 124 today, right at the ABCD. I wouldn't buy it here because you're in a very, very strong extension here, and you're due for a correction, and you've been up for 10 weeks, basically nonstop, other than that little 3-8-2 retracement at 104. So I wouldn't buy it here, but it certainly does look pretty good. Some of these patterns just happen to work. Remind me to send you 20 bucks, Bob. Okay, we'll move that on. Okay, Mr. Z, let's see what's on here. What else you want to know about? Okay, I'd like to see a correction down. Yeah, around 9 or 10 cents is what I'd be looking for. Right, there you go. 9 cents down will take you to 116. So take a look at it. I hope that helps. And coffee's had one heck of a run there, but just patterns, folks. I know nothing about the coffee market other than it's mostly of it is Brazil and Africa. Most of the coffee comes from there, as I recall. All right, one other question that someone asked is about the big pattern in the natural gas that we've been waiting for, and if you'll get this up here, we'll be able to see this pattern has completed in the natural gas, and we had a nice 20. We've already rallied. We only got up to 250 yesterday. Now we backed off a little bit in that. So we're still in the correction mode here. Anything above 250 in the natural gas is going to be a big move out of that area. By the way, Bob, thank you for asking me to put up that coffee chart. I didn't realize it was going to be so spot on. So that $20 bill will be in the mail to you as soon as possible. Alrighty, let's see. No more guests this week. Next week, we're going to have the wizard himself. Mr. Winsky will be on on the 11th of December. That's the day before we have the full moon, and he'll be talking to us about some of the exciting things that he's looking at. And then hopefully we will have Bill Meridian on next week as our guest tomorrow. We will have Tom Hougart on, and I hope to have a little extra time with Tom tomorrow so that we can chat with him a little bit more about some of the things that we want to see. Thanks, Bob. I appreciate the comments. Alright, let's take one other look. Someone else asked about another commodity here that we haven't talked about very often. That is the copper. And as you'll see here, copper is still in this nice trading range here. Hold on here. Oh, I have a transport chart, Mr. Bill. You bet you there's the... Basically, copper is in a pinnit here, folks, from 273 to 250. So there's nothing going on there. I do have the transportation, however. Let's get that up, and we will be able to share that with the folks. I believe there it is. And this is it. Now, the transports, this was as of Friday because, you know, it was divergence to the downside. And we've had a pretty substantial move to the downside on this. So let's pay attention to that. So far, that number that we looked at today in the S&P at 3125 is held. We've dropped about 12 points below that, but we'll see. So let's take a commercial break here. We'll get back and wrap up the show. I'm Steve Rhodes, author of Mastering Probability, and for the last 12 months, Timer Digest has been tracking my newsletter signals, which have earned me the ranking as their number one market timer in the nation for the S&P 500 for the last 12, 6, and 3 months. Timer Digest also ranks me as the number one market timer for gold as well. The fact is, markets can be timed, and I'll teach you the exact set of tools that I use that has transformed me into one of the best at what I do. 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Right now, you can get a two-week free trial to the opening call Basil's daily trading newsletter by visiting the front page of TFNN.com. Cancel at any time during that trial and pay absolutely nothing. Get your two-week free trial to Basil's newsletter of the opening call today by visiting TFNN.com. We are talking about the... I just posted a chart for the S&P cash, the SPY. If you'll notice here that we've completed several major patterns up here. You've got a big ABCD pattern. You've got a 135 pattern. Three drives to a top. You've got everything that you could look for. Remember, this was as a Friday and we had a big drop, as you can tell, from what happened on Monday and Tuesday and early Wednesday of this week. We've snapped back a little bit. So this retracement that we had today at the 61% retracement is certainly very, very important. Folks, I don't know whether this is the high of the year or not. I don't really care. It's just a tradable pattern. Now, there's a possibility that it could. And if we go below that 382 level at 3060, which is a long way from that, but that's one Tweet-A-Way, of course, in the S&P cash, that would tell us that, yes, this is a major, major correction. And we'll know more, of course, in a couple of weeks. But by then, you know, the fat lady certainly will be dancing and singing and most of the menu will be ordered already. So let's keep in mind. Thank you for putting up with my little retropra of whatever you want to call it, of what I did. I've got a bunch of these things that I probably should share because some of them are pretty funny. And I know you get tired of looking at the charts. That's for sure. If you don't, there's something wrong with you because the charts are not really fun to look at. So that's the key to paying attention to this stuff, I believe. So anyway, I've been very fortunate to do what I do. Here I am going to be hitting to the big, going to be a date furlong pretty soon. And it's been a really great race. I hope we got a lot more races to run. I've just been very, very fortunate with the people I've met and stuff. So that's it. So live every day in an attitude of gratitude and may God bless and remember, try not to miss the show tomorrow because we're going to have... Thanks a lot, Jim. You're comparing me. You have a choice between listening to me and Nancy Pelosi. Oh, you picked me. Well, that's good. Gee, that's really great. See you tomorrow, folks. May God bless.


Hello and let's talk about the instances of racism that were reported in the third test between the Indian and Australian cricket teams. So two Indian players, Mohamed Siraj and Jaspreet Bumrah said that racist lures had been thrown against them, they had been abused by spectators on the stands. The incident happened on both Saturday and Sunday and players stopped and both spectators were evicted, a complaint has been filed. But these incidents only throw a light at the larger problem of racism, especially when it comes to sport. There have been a lot of instances in previous tours by India as well and not only in cricket but in all other sports, it's an endemic problem. So we have news clicks, Leslie Xavier to talk more about these issues. He talks about the complicated relationship between structural racism and sport and instances of racism and such discrimination between sports persons inside the sporting fraternity itself. Here is what he has to say. Thank you Leslie for joining us. So yet another instance of racism and in this case of course, the team took a very prompt stand, a united stand and the authorities were of course also moving into take action by evicting some spectators. But we do see that this is a recurring problem. It has happened in Australia even in an earlier tour as well, I believe in 2018 and that point to a similar action had taken. So this is an issue that definitely the Australian cricket board really needs to deal with. I mean, I don't think it's just confined to Australian cricket board. It's a societal issue. So I guess everybody has to address this and I'm talking not just for Australia but I'm talking about all the countries across the world because this keeps on happening everywhere. England, English football, Italian leagues, Germany, US, I mean, we know what happens there. So it's all over the place. So what has happened now is it was a great contest as far as the test match is concerned. But then the test match, its context, its relevance, everything is I mean, overshadowed and rightfully overshadowed also because it's a serious issue of racism by the racist chants and slugs this happened on Saturday. So the match was stopped at that point and the players went to the umpire, captains of both the teams, they got together, they decided to address it and the match was stopped for a brief while and then the police came and removed the spectators who were involved in it. But it's not Australia cricket establishments or Australia teams problem as such. So when we address this and from our side, from India when we were criticising and condemning these acts, a lot of players and a lot of ex-players and generally, Twitterati and the social media commenters, they tend to target Australians in general, inherent racist country. They go back all the way to the history of them, I mean, Australia being a recent colony to start with. Isn't that racism? So what are we trying to prove with that? That's the question that we are bigger, bigger racist than they are because see a racist slur or a chant or targeted statements happening within that stadium came to life. But what about all those statements that's been happening in Australia ever since that happened on Twitter? So this feeds into that larger problem that the world is facing as such, which is racism in general. Be it casual racism, be it explicit racism, be it attacks physical, I mean, attacks which are meant to harm, which are meant to kill even. So it's when black lives matter, the moment was happening and when cricket restarted and Michael Holden spoke at large and which became a very viral and famous video about the racism he faced and what exactly is the problem. He was very clear that it's a societal issue. It's taken centuries to take it to where it is now. And centuries of education systematic racism ingrained into all walks of life, be it education, be it popular media, be it anything. So it takes years of undoing for this to clear out. And he was glad at that point that the moment has started, but then six months, eight months down the road, these things still happen. And crowd coming into the stadium and chanting, it shows how bad the situation is in that specific place. So this happens in Indian stadiums as well. It happens in, I mean, if you look at the crowd alone, they target opposition teams, they throw out abusive, expressive languages at them probably in India, so that's why they probably don't catch initially. But yeah, animosity towards the opposing team always happens from the stadium. And when it takes racist intonations, then yeah, it's a serious offense altogether. So recently, like a couple of weeks back, two English championship sides were penalized and then they decided to take action against, because when players were kneeling down before the start of the movement in solidarity, taking a knee is a sign of solidarity, expressing solidarity to black lives matter movement and generally against racism, stands against racism. So when they were doing that, there were cheers and booze from the crowd. So again, action was taken, police case was filed against this thing. Similar thing has happened. I'm very glad that Australia, cricket Australia, BCCI, as well as the authorities there, the police of New South Wales State, because this happened in Sydney. So they have decided to pursue it, investigate it. And I personally listened to that video. So it's very unclear what exactly was the statement made, but whatever it is, I mean, I'm sure since the police is involved, they would use forensics to determine what exactly the slurs used where and if it is found to be racist, then action would be taken against them. But the larger action is what needs to be taken within the society. And that brings us to another point which I want to mention in this episode specific. So we tend to talk about monkey gate issue that happened, abhijan Singh, and back in 2008, Andrew Simons. So it's not the same. Let's just be very clear about it. They had to play.  And then he was, he was, he got off the hook. But what exactly the truth is it was a nasty incident on the playing field and that is much more serious. And then some random crowd who were, according to media reports were drunk as well, shouting, they were doing racist chants against the Indians. The other incident is serious. So let's not compare those two also. That comparison has been happening ever since the incident happened. And so as far as this particular incident is concerned, it's unfortunate that this happens, but it keeps on happening across stadiums, across the world. And it's, it's about time that we address, how do you cancel it off? Just like what Michael holding said at that point, it's, it's, it's a societal problem and it will only get canceled or it will only become less once systematically the change happens to the society across various layers of the society. Absolutely. And I guess an important point, like you said, is that it comes to media responses when it comes to responses by the commentaries, knee jerk reactions of what do you call it? Our racism or your racism are actually quite problematic and they kind of obscure the issue at stake because often what it does is it gives say some sections of people kind of morals, superiority by pretending that oh, they are the racist people and we are, you know, pretty clean and we have no such issues with that software is like you said, almost every single country has its own very horrible record of racism as well, and which manifests itself in sport as well. But in this case, I think an interesting question would be regarding, say, whether any kind of action is possible on behalf of authorities into basically avoid such kind of situations while action after it happens is of course necessary, but it does spoil the spirit of the game, it does spoil the moment, not only the momentum of the game, but the entire atmosphere because that is how the game gets remembered by and whether there are any kind of, of course, it's a difficult process because you can't really screen people for racism, so to speak. But nonetheless, in terms of awareness activities, have there been other instances of say, boards or establishments actually taking action on those issues? So in Europe, if at all, there are instances of crowd being very hostile and a ban happens, they play, I mean, see, now it doesn't matter that way because everybody is playing to almost empty stadiums and only a few numbers are allowed specifically in certain countries, etc. But when full crowd was there and when specific teams are there who are known to be inherently racist towards black players or players of different ethnicities who play for visiting sites, they take action.  And also the clubs are penalized for not ensuring that such instances, because repeat offenders, this tends to be repeat offenders. And so while it's difficult to screen fans getting into stadiums for their racism, because you can never understand where they come from, what they come from. But if a person is a repeat offender, it should be, I mean, there are clubs who do that, there are organizations, sports organizations who do that in football specifically, I'm talking about, where they're not allowed back into the stadium at all.  Whether that solves the problem at all, I mean, in general, it doesn't, because it's again plugging the whole kind of this thing. But it doesn't plug holes, that is very visible and glaring in the society. So in that context, we are also no better if you look at India as a country as such, Indian venues as such. And India's problem is multi, I mean, manifold that way, because ours is not just about skin color or certain, I mean, ours, because we are very ethnically diverse. And at the same time, we are also, there is a caste and caste system that divides us, and there is also an economic class divide as well. So India has like three pronged problem, problem in itself. So I can get into some specifics about that. But in general, when we take a moral stance, moral high ground, when such instances happens against the Indian cricket team when they're playing abroad, we, I mean, being brown-skinned and being able to receiving it at specific countries, white countries doesn't give you, I mean, doesn't absolve you from looking into yourself and what you as a country do to people in your, having your citizens that way. Because we have our different states, we have athletes and players coming from northeast, distinctly different in appearance. They get targeted all the time. So tinky is the common slug that is used, which is, I mean, derogatory to the code. So let's not forget that aspect as well. And let's not forget that when we protest on at Australia, we first should probably start course-correcting at home. Absolutely. Leslie, in this context also wanted to ask you about, see, we talked about this issue in the context of fans. We talked about how organizations deal with it. But what about within the sporting community itself? We slightly touched upon this earlier when we were talking about Harvardian singer Andrew Simmons. But like you said, this is a multi, it's an issue with many dimensions. This is an issue of various sports. And I would presume there are a lot of instances of such incidents happening within the athletes and the community itself. So could you maybe take us to some of those issues, especially in Indian sport, and if there's been any steps around that? When mentioning monkey gate, I reiterated also in a way that it's much more serious than this trans-jering incident. Why?  So that has a serious connotation to sport in general. And how sport stands against discrimination against a lot of societal issues. Sports is considered a level. And then these things happen when sports persons do it. It takes on added significance. So that's why I kept mentioning that earlier. And coming back to the point, it's a matter of, I mean, when you look at it, I'm just confused which sport to start. Because in every sport you find in India, and specifically talking about India, in every sport you find discrimination. And since we started off talking about cricket and the Sydney strain, let's stick to cricket first. And if you look at Indian cricket team history, right from the first, I mean, an official Indian team which was formed pre-independency right during the British rule. Palvankar Bharu was a deli cricketer. And this is pre-independence. And post that, if you consider Eknath Solkar and Vinod Kambli coming from backward communities, otherwise there are not in a deli cricketer ever to play for the Indian team. So that shows the skewed demography of the structuring cricket which doesn't facilitate the growth of players from backward communities as such. And we are talking about India where cricket is a religion. Everybody plays. It's not like backward community kids or kids from certain economic strata or certain religious group or certain states don't aspire to become cricketers. Everybody wants to become a cricketing strata. Everybody wants to become such an individual. But not everybody gets a chance. If you look at the history of cricket, it's very apparent in India that the upper class have a distinct advantage when it comes to traversing the various levels of cricket from age group to state level to Renji level to international level. So by the time the cream reaches the international stage or the elite level, the other people fall off because the spectrum is always biased. And that's cricket for you. And then when you look at other sport, if you take football or boxing or wrestling or everywhere, there is some form or the other of discrimination. When you take football and boxing, for instance, or some other martial arts as well like Judo, northeast athletes are pretty strong in this. So the elites who come across like, for instance, a Mary Kong or a Sunil Chetri or a Renedi Singh, I mean, they reach a certain level and of course they are identifiable. I mean, people know them and still they are not spared. So at the start of lockdown when Sunil Chetri and Virat Kohli was having an Instagram live session, someone in the comment section asked, who is this Nepali? So that's the general crowd we are talking about. But within the sport, many athletes from the northeast have come on record talking about how at the early stages or various stages of the career they have faced discrimination from simple small things like while traveling in the train, for instance, the guard or the ticket checker would look at you with suspicion and they are not outwardly racist, but they are rude to you. They will check your bag, use the latte and hit the bag saying, what are you carrying? What is this? Are you smuggling? Things like that. These are small circle questions, sclerotyping, all these things, many of them are faced. And then not to mention, I mean, they look distinctly different from the rest of the athletes coming from Indian states. So when they reach camps or at tournaments also, they are always discriminated that way because appearance-wise, they look distinctly different. So the famous, I mean, the slur word that we all know and it's commonly used, thrown about abused from, not just in sport, but generally in the cities, wherever people from northeast go to make a living, to study. Anyway, so that continues even in sport and hockey when you take believe turkey, I mean, really turkey represents a group of, I mean, is possibly the one of the most identifiable name in hockey of the 90s and 2000s. He was India captain. He is a former MP and multiple Olympian. He has come on record saying that the initial part of it, so Jharkhand and Orissa, a lot of tribal hockey players have come up from there. And so you are saying that initial part when they reached the national camp and of course they belong to a place, a community where they are not very strong education wise. So language articulation and all these things they pick up later once they come into the national team fold and travel and gain experience and all that. So the predominant language in use in camps is either India or Punjabi and they initially itself, because of the language barrier, they find themselves as aliens and then Siddiqui has said that there were many instances when fellow players had reminded him that he is an adi wasi.  But that's how the system is set and when players come in, they face these odds and these, I mean if you are not truly a star or if you are not that mentally strong if you are not willing to fight and come through then you get lost. It's as simple as that. The same thing happens in wrestling and that too in a larger level because in wrestling if you look at it outwardly everybody looks the same that way because you are talking about various states in North India you're talking about Maharashtra wrestlers coming into the system but then the sport is dominated by the North Indian belt and out of which the largest community that dominates sport in wrestling is Jhats and of course there is a Brahmin group as well and so within the wrestling national elite group there is always a dominance by Jhats and they try to undermine wrestlers coming from other states and other communities. So if you ask me for a proof for this experience players face this, some players have come out and revealed this but like anything abusive for instance like comparable to domestic abuse also there is always it's always open to interpretation or the society has been set in such a way that it's always justified by saying that I didn't mean it, we didn't mean it I called you in a certain way Aaron Sammy the West Indian cricketer had said that his teammates and the teammate is Ishan Sharma of Sunrises Hyderabad used to call him Kalu later he realized that that's a derogatory word ethnicity is being questioned but then Ishan Sharma or many players justified it by saying that are Kalu Dosti friendship we were just calling you black out of friendship that's not how it should be right the same thing discrimination happens subtly sometimes not so subtly but then it's also glossed over by justifying it by saying that it was not meant or it was not it is not like that so this is what is happening in India and when we do this when the incident happens in Sydney and when we do that comparison and when we are critical about Australia and Australia has always been racist and all that we shouldn't forget that in India there is a larger problem the problem is within the system also within sport in Australia if racism happens at the stands by a fan in India it happens on an everyday basis many athletes face this so that's the systemic problem that we should address we should realize and we should start changing things from home rather than worry and be aggressive about portraying the faults of a country which is so far off and so we should be more concerned about what affects us on a day-to-day basis and that's right here in your face thank you so much Desi for talking to us that's all the time we are today we'll be back tomorrow with more news from around the country until then keep watching NewsClick


Welcome to Church of the Chair, where we celebrate all the things we do while seated. I'm your host, E, here today with my co-host, Chad Lutsky, and we are currently collaborating on a novel called Planet Caravan. We are over the 40K mark. So today's episode is Road to 50K Begins. You know exactly how much we're at. That's what I was just looking at, getting a look for. 101 pages. Oh, by the way, look what came in. Oh dude. Finally got it, and showing support for the new one. Very cool. Jump into them shortly. Probably read them back to back.  I might even do a three for, three for, and read out behind the barn too, back to back to back. They're all pretty short, but they're all great books, man. I mean, if I do say so myself. This ain't even like a criticism.  I cannot stand that. One of the things I love about your books is they're all the same size. I don't know. I guess when your new thing comes out with a bruises on a butterfly, when it comes out from CD, it'll probably be the same size as Jedi Summer, but. My last collection is not the same size because neither is Wyrmwood. But that's out of my hands. I figure. I mean, I don't know. It makes sense to. I don't know why CD doesn't do a five by eight. They only do six by nine. I hate that. I like thicker books. I don't know. What's the genre of the new book? Just gritty, almost noir carnival stuff. All that stuff. Hey, Pedro, how you doing? Sorry, I just saw you came in. How are you doing, my friend? You get to the. We were at 36, 499. No, no, no, no. That's not what we're at. What am I thinking? I was about to say. I just, yeah, I just did the math wrong. Okay. Yeah, there's a window. Just to let you, I'm just reading your comments. There's a window in there because that's how he looks out to see the, oh, I'm doing fantastic, Pedro. That's how he looks out to see the caravan once it drives off. Okay, yeah, we're at 40,087. I got some revisions in this morning. I got some revisions in yesterday morning. I also, you'll probably see a comment where it talks about changing the ticket stealing scene or same as a key. Yeah, I read that. And then I took out, because you had described the trailer in the beginning. So I took some of your ideas and I put them up there. Where we had already described it, yeah. Okay. I'm doing fantastic. Sully, how are you doing? All right, as I do, every time we start this out, I'm going to read what Chad has done and then form a plan for what I'm gonna do for the day, take my break, come back and start writing. So we also use this time to talk about anything that I may have questions about or whatever because Chad works on this while we're not live, as well as when we're live. And I do not because I have the streaming stuff and other projects that I'm working on that I got to get done. So anyways, I'm gonna go ahead and jump in here. Also, for those of you who are wondering why we're not doing screen sharing anymore, we have some submissions out to interested parties. And we don't wanna be showing everything. We've already talked about enough of where we're going, what we're doing. And I don't wanna take any chances spoiling any deal that we might have down the road by showing too much. So that's why we're not showing this anymore. And there's no guarantees in this business but just to be on the safe side. Did you happen to send out that email? Not yet. I'm gonna get it after I get done here. I got like one more, literally one more page to read. I'm just going over for typos or anything. I haven't found anything so far, but go over that and then I'll send it this afternoon when I know he's in the office. So yeah, this is the boring time. I'm just gonna be reading. Usually I show this, but see what I just said.  Sorry. He's so done with that boy. He's like, okay, you're not, you're not picking up when I'm laying down.  Sorry. That is a perfect, oh, I'm already crying, man. That's like a perfect like slap in the face.  That would have sent me, and I've been reading this just on my own, just sitting down. It's sent me and I'm part of it, anyway. Oh, that's good. That was supposed to be Spanish. Oh, okay, I'm sorry. I tried, it's fine. It's fine, we should probably just do something else because I tried, it's not Spanish enough, probably. Well, you're a perfect example of why it's not Spanish enough because you thought it was an error. Yeah, exactly. Well, if it has the little, I don't know, but it's not an omelette, but if it has a thing above it, people will understand that. We just gotta make sure we use the right one because one direction means one thing and the other direction means another. Hang on, let me catch up a chat real quick. Happy to hear, been really good since it's now spookiest season. I've started my reread of cruelty. Oh, shit, thank you, appreciate it. I haven't had the chance to join one of your lives for a bit. Happy to hear you're doing well. I'm glad to see you. It's always nice to see you around, so thank you for, thanks for staying with me. If I'm Robert Planton up in here. Oh, we definitely gotta use that card at some point in time. There's so many knickknacks and things we have lying around that we can use later. It's gonna be amazing. I call that the boiling pot. Stephen King, when he published on writing, he did a competition. He said, all right, here's the scene. There's a pot boiling on the stove. Write this scene, send it into this address and I'll pick a winner. And the scene, he mentions in there, he's like, maybe something happens with the pot later on. So I kind of, or maybe it's smoking gun, check-offs gun, whatever you wanna call it. And I know there's a terminology for it, but I call it the boiling pot as my own reference point. I really love shit like that, taking stuff that might be otherwise just kind of passed over and making it an important Kirk Gibson. Mingo lingo only, sweet. Oh yeah, I wrote that, nevermind. Sorry, I just realized like, hey, that's pretty good. And I realized that was me. Act like a boy and well, then we're back to the time I said I don't like to be set. Sorry. I was like, that's a good line, Chad. Dumbass. Anyways, don't call yourself a dumbass, stop it. Your knowledge of Playboy is impeccable. At some point they changed the binding. I think maybe it was in the 90s, the early 90s. Yeah, it must have been because when I was looking at them as a, you know, 10, 11, that would have been 90, 91, all of them were from like the 70s and 80s because of course we stole it from our dads. And I know exactly what you're talking about. I think the only other magazine that you could confuse it with at that time would be maybe Omni. I don't even know Omni. Like we never had, we never found Omnis. I do remember. Omni was like a science magazine, but it was very thick and it had that same kind of like gap, very thick. Right, you know. I get what you're saying, yeah. It's funny because we had a very eclectic collection, me and my friends. There was of course the penthouse, the Playboys, all that stuff.  Yeah, a circle.  You know, that's what we did. We just hung out and then we'd be like, hey, look at this. One day, my buddy Ross shows up and he's got, and no shame to any, I'm just pointing this out, because I think this is funny, but he showed up with chicks with dicks magazine that he found in his dad's closet. And he was like, did you know some chicks can have penises? I'm like, some, what? I was so confused. For years, I was like, I'm glad I never asked my mother, because it took me quite a while after that to realize that this was a thing and whatnot. Yeah, so. It's funny how you, I think one of the funniest things I can think of were growing up where somebody, I was naive enough to believe it. Somebody told me that when I was a kid that Oriental women's vaginas were sideways and slanted like their eyes. That was a, yeah, I had heard that one when I was younger too.  They called it a three o'clock insert. God damn. Slanted. But yeah, that was, and I believed it. I was like, wow, really? Here's a wild one for you. I guess it's a, I don't know, it's a little less, it's a little more innocent than yours, I think. I don't know anyways, but I'll just continue talking. I firmly believed from the ages of 11 to about 16. Now my only sexual encounter, but I've told the story before, but I was with a 40 year old woman in my neighbor when I was 11.  I've talked about it a lot, not gonna talk about it anymore, but it's important to know that part for this next part.  Like you couldn't reach that part or whatever, when they're in that position. And it's not because me and the older woman didn't try that position, but because that's what she preferred.  So I thought that that was just how things work, that she was just completely normal.    And we had a whole argument. I was like, dude, it's impossible. You can't hit that from that angle or whatever. I'm like, man, what are you talking about? You ain't never had sex, right? I'm like, no, no, if it's that position, then it's that thing. Boy, now mind you, this is hilarious. This is the funniest ending to this story, I think. Had my first sexual experience when I was 11 and multiple times after that, but I believed in Santa Claus until I was 13. Dang dude. 13 years old. My parents went through the motions. They had people send me letters from all over the globe marked from Santa Claus. Any time I would hide a letter to Santa to kind of prove that Santa Claus wasn't real, they would find it and I would get those presents anyways and it would say from Santa, they were, well, my mother, my dad had nothing to do with it. In fact, I found out later that he tried numerous times to get her and the only reason I found out at 13 was because I got in a fight at school, a physical altercation at school over Santa Claus.  You're 13 years old. It was like, it had to have been junior high. And I find that I came, well, I was sent home because I was fighting and so my mom came and got me. My dad was cutting grass or whatever. My mom came and got me, had to leave work. And when I got home, I was at home alone. She had to go back to work. Dad finally got home and I walked up to him and I had, this is how sneaky I was. I walked to him and said, mom said Santa Claus, my mother did not say this. I said, mom said Santa Claus isn't real, is that true? And he goes, yeah, it's about time we had this talk. So he sits me down and he goes, Santa Claus is more of a feeling than that whole stick. And then I started bawling. And when mom got home, I was like, you lied to me for so many years.  My mom's like, I don't even know what's going on. But that's how I finally found out was tricking my dad into telling me. We didn't teach our kids, Santa. We celebrated Christmas with a ton of gifts. But being Christians, we just didn't do it. I mean, I know a ton of Christians who do that. I got, I was raised with Santa and I thought it was cool and stuff, but we just chose not to. And when my son is in his late 20s now, he was at, I think it was in first grade and he was telling the kids in school that Santa wasn't real. And he had mentioned it to somebody and I had told him, we have told our kids, listen, some people, I was raised like this, don't ruin it, just don't. And so it got brought up in discussion at school. Teacher had to pull them out into the hall and call us and stuff. And she was gentle about it. She's just like, listen, I know you don't believe that, but these guys do. So let's just keep the ruse going for them. And he was really cool about it. That's awesome. That's what we told him too. It's just like, yeah, don't just go with it. Funny part about us is we did Santa Claus for the timeframe that the kids wouldn't know. Like we would put from Santa until they were like three, that kind of thing.  And I'm not saying that bragging is just all the time they're shocking me with their research and whatever. They'll come and talk to us about things. They'll look things up. And Dan, at five years old, they came to us and was like, Santa Claus isn't real. I know Santa Claus isn't real because I found all this. And then give us a list of evidence on how they found out that he wasn't real. And then they were completely fine. Chris is seven years younger than Dan. So it was seven years, that seven year difference, but Dan was super cool about it. But Chris also found out on their own.  Like I'm not gonna tell my kids, you know, my feelings on religion, I'm gonna let them choose for themselves. I'm not gonna strip them from any spirituality that they wanna have, that kind of thing. So he goes to church with her, talks to another kid there. I think he was like four or five, like in like Sunday school and talking to that kid. And that kid told him that Santa Claus wasn't real. And this kid was about the same age as him at the time. At least that's what my mother told me. So he wasn't upset or anything. He just came home and said, did you know Santa Claus in real? I was like, yeah, I do. But he's like, well, that would explain why I didn't get any presents from him last year. I remember that specifically because like I said, we didn't put Santa Claus on the tags after a certain amount of time. And Shell was of the mindset because Shell has a little bit of an ego.  Take my bread under. Yeah, exactly. Take the credit for me buying stuff for my kids. And I'm like, hey, that's fine. I'm cool with that. So we just did it for the years that they wouldn't consciously remember. But yeah, that's what's with my kids. So my kids, you know, we still, it's funny because every year we still give them something from Santa. And it's usually the thing that they think that we couldn't afford. So it would be something like a new computer or a guitar or something like that because I'll save up all year for Christmas. I will, and I get that from my mother but the way my mother did it was run up all of her credit cards. And then she would pay them off throughout the next year and then use them again to buy Christmas again and then pay them off throughout the year. Of course that caught up with her eventually and she had to go bankrupt. But yeah, so I would save up all year long and they know it was pretty much even though I was making enough to keep us comfortable and all that up until like a year and a half ago, I was making it, we were very, very comfortable. And they were still getting things like, Dan got a brand new computer and a guitar one year because that's what they wanted. And then Chris ended up with every single, there was this thing of like, it's not erector sets but it's like erector sets but for vehicles, it's not called erector set though. And he got the entire collection one year and both all those items came from Santa Claus because they didn't think we could afford them. So it's kind of like an inside joke in the house that if we can't afford it, ask Santa for it, that kind of thing, maybe it'll happen. So that keeps them asking for the things that they actually want. But yesterday, literally yesterday, it's funny that we're talking about this now, Dan said, I don't really want anything for Christmas. And then Chris kind of looked up like this and he goes, I think I'm cool too. And me and Shale kind of looked at each other and said, this is the purpose of how we've been doing Christmas. To get you to a place where eventually you don't want for anything. And it just kind of hit me that parent achievement unlocked. We did good, not only did we get them what they wanted, but they also have what they want and they are comfortable with that. And they are fine not asking for things. They don't A, need or B that they might not really want right now. So yeah, anyways, that struck me. I was like, this is a very proud moment as a parent for me. Well, that's not me. Hey, if you are looking for somebody to give gifts to, I'm right here, I'll give you my address. Well, jokes on you because we decided we're gonna take a family, if we can afford it, it'll probably be a credit card situation, but we decided to go and do something as a family, then buy everybody gifts. So we're just gonna do something. I don't know what we're gonna do or where we're gonna go, but since this year has been so hard on us financially, it'll probably be a credit card situation. And like I said, I'm gonna end up, if the writer's strike doesn't end soon and none of my, well, all my contracts are gone anyways, but if I don't find any other contracts, I'll just go bankrupt. There's no other choice at this point in time. I'm paying some of my bills every single month, like my water and my electric, I'm paying with credit cards. So, and that's a situation you never wanna be in because you still have to pay those credit cards. Yeah, so we're not behind on anything yet, but come November, everything will be in the red. Well, we're already in the red, but you get what I'm saying. I'm not even gonna be able to pay for what, and I'm expecting by January, I'm gonna have to find a lawyer. Luckily, it's only $550 here to go bankrupt. Yay, anyways. Yeah, we spent way too much last year because I got, I got... What's up, Ron? Sorry, I haven't seen you in chat before and I wanted to say hello, hello, Ron.  And then my grandkids, my nieces and nephew and my brother and sister, my mom. So last year, man, we spent, but we had come into some money. So we thought, we'll have a really, you know, like a more than what we usually do kind of Christmas, but I'm not doing that again this year. That was stressful. The year before last, we didn't do it last year. We tried this. We did 25 days of Halloween. We bought 25, so 50 gifts in total. We went from December 1st all the way to Christmas and they were able to, and they had to save the big stuff for Christmas Day. But we did a lot of, we did like, you know, like 10 gag gifts, 10 fun gifts, like toys or whatever.  And then on top of that, we did a Christmas Day haul. So they got bigger things also. But dude, it was so confusing because we made like an Excel spreadsheet of which one.  And it was so confusing trying to keep track of which ones we had packed and which one was which thing. And then it turned into like, almost not a scavenger hunt, but it turned into a hunt to try and find certain things in there.  And it was madness, but it worked out, but we're never doing that again. In fact, the kids didn't even like it. They were like, I would actually prefer to open 25 presents on Christmas Day, no matter if they're just gag gifts or whatever it might be, I would prefer to just do it that one day or seven days of Christmas, definitely not 25 again. So I've never heard a child complain about getting so many gifts and having gifts every single day, but both of them were like, yeah, it was too much. It was too much. I also, last year, I bought it was a big secret, but I bought, yeah, Christmas time here. It's not even Halloween yet. I bought a, all right, I designed t-shirts. I designed four t-shirts for Final Guys. One with each Hunter Shea, his picture on one, Jason Brannon one, Jack Campese on one, and then me on one. And then I had them up on T-Public, but I didn't make them like public. Right. And then I got everybody's t-shirt size and address and we had like a Christmas, pre-Christmas episode. And that particular shirt, I think is the one that we're all on, but there's also separate ones.  But I got each, sent all of them their own shirt with their face on it and made them open it. And I was wearing mine, but I had like a flannel or something over it. And then made them open it live while we were doing the podcast. Cool. That was cool. Do me a favor, email me that link because I can't copy and paste down here. Yeah. Email me that and I'm gonna post it in my Discord for anybody who wants to check it out. Scrapple, not Scrapple. Did it, ready for a real treat. Ha! All right, done reading that section. Where did I leave off? I don't even know. Road to Salvation, Child Time. Yeah, I did Child Time. That was the last one that I did. So I'm gonna, after the only thing I'm gonna write today is probably him working with Kay on the Ferris wheel because I know how to break one down and put it back together again. So I'll have them work on that and try not to make it boring of course and have some kind of purpose to the thing. So I was thinking, you know, he's kind of stuck on this concept of buzzard and Sam. So let's see if I can have him press Kay for, you know, some answers or whatever. And I think that might get into some comedy area, some comedic area because Kay isn't gonna just tell him what happened, because he doesn't talk. So, that's what I'll do when I get back. But I didn't even get, you know, I just realized I didn't even get to the point of what I was telling you upstream.   So yeah, remind me when we get done. I talk about it here folks, but it's, there's no guarantee anything's gonna happen. So yeah, no reason to tell you guys something and you guys get your hopes up. Also, I'm technically not allowed to talk about it. So whatever, let's get that off the screen. Okay, doggie. Okay, I'm gonna go on break. And when I get back, I'm gonna start writing. See y'all then. Okay, doggie. Uh, something wrong? No, I was reading your magic finger section. Too much? No, uh-uh. You're asking Edward Lorne if something is too much.  Anyways, no, definitely not too much. Well, I mean, I'm trying to think of those who might give it a read, the powers that be. No, no, no, you did it perfectly. It's alluded to without actually saying it. I was wondering if that's what you were getting at when I read the whole, when- I was wondering if that was what I was getting at too. Yeah, I love it. I figured it's harmless enough. Yeah, given some of the authors they do publish, not gonna say any names, not to give anything away, but that is very tame by comparison, so. Hey, what are you doing? What are you even looking at? Dude, Cooper, Cooper, what are you doing? He's staring at this Michael Myers blanket I have and he's barking at it.  Have you ever seen that? Okay, so the story behind it is it's an electrified fence and one day, one of the sheep that this dog shepherds got too close to the fence and it shocked him. So ever since then, anytime the owner lets the dog out, the dog runs straight to this one post and starts to parking at it.   Very cool story. I have no idea what he's barking at. Maybe Mike blinked at him, who knows? Cooper, what are you doing? You wanna come up here?  We get a dog show, what is up, Agent Cooper? Special Agent Cooper, lesser agent E, saying good morning. He's like, what the fuck, what's going on here? This is all this kind of stuff. Who that person on the screen, dad?  Nick, I mean, your hat kind of funky though. I don't know. It's been a long day. It's a hard knock life for a dog. It's a hard knock life, but that's right. Scratches, scratches. That makes it all better. 103 pages. Huh? 103 pages. Yeah. All right, I'm tapping out. Eat some lunch. I'll probably hit back in this later. All right. I've got a, Hey, James. I still gotta work on this logo. Is it lookable? Sorry, Chad. Yeah, yeah, sorry, go ahead. You're fine. I was just saying hi to the people. I wasn't saying anything important. Oh, okay. All right. Well, let me end this so I can finish what I was telling you earlier and then you can dip out. But anyways, thank you guys for joining us. We'll be back again tomorrow at 9 a.m. Central Standard Time. But until then, I'll hail the chair.


So let's look, let's remind ourselves of the cardiovascular system as a whole. We've already looked at the heart. This is a very diagrammatic view of the whole thing. And we know that it's just a series of tubes that connect one side of the heart to the other side of the heart and enable a flow of blood through the lungs to pick up new oxygen and get rid of carbon dioxide and a flow of fresh blood to all body parts and then back again to the heart so that we can go back to the lungs and do our exchange. There are five main kinds of vessels that are found in this whole system. So we have to look at the different anatomy of each of the vessels in order to appreciate the function of the capillaries. So and the mechanics of fluid flow throughout this whole tubular, totally tubular system. So look at this chart that I have drawn for you. I've listed out my five kinds of vessels that we're going to talk about. We have arteries, arterioles, capillaries, venules, and veins. And they move the veins flow into the heart and the arteries flow away from the heart, and the arteries, once they move away from the heart, they branch into arterioles, which branch into capillaries, which don't branch but come back into venules, which then come back into veins. And there are two numbers that I can give you right now just for perspective on size and significance, just anatomical perspective. So the diameter, the diameter of an artery can range from, and I'm just going to use black because I'm going to try to stay disciplined, pay attention to my units here, from 0.1 to 10 millimeters. This is the diameter of the tube.  I mean, 10 millimeters, that's a centimeter. The diameter of an artery, the lumen, the diameter of the lumen of the artery is, can be big. You can stick a finger in that thing. Arterioles, on the other hand, are 10 to 100 micrometers. And I'm just going to throw down here because I had to look it up. 1 millimeter equals 1,000 micrometers. And so you can see that this is like, 100 micrometers is 0.1 meter. So it makes sense that our arteries are going to become the biggest arterioles and then arterioles are going to get smaller as we go. Capillaries, on the other hand, the diameter of a capillary is anywhere between 4 and 10 micrometers. Seriously, that's small, you guys. That's tiny. Venuals go from 10 to 100 micrometers. And again, this is the diameter. And check this out. This will blow your mind. The diameter of a vein goes from 0.1, and again, that's equal to 100 micrometers, 0.1 to 100 millimeters. Dude, that's gigantic. Millimeters. That's crazy talk. That's huge. That's 10 centimeters. What? That seems crazy. I might want to go back and check that thing. Let's talk about the thickness of each of these because that's another number that is going to change with each of them. The thickness of an artery can be up to one millimeter. This is just the wall of the artery. The thickness of an arteriol, now we're back into micrometers, just six micrometers. So there's a huge difference between an artery and an arteriol when you talk about thickness. And we'll look at the structure of them and draw them here and see why that is. A capillary is half a micrometer. And a venuola, just one micrometer. And veins, super thin.  Okay? Now, so what? Let me tell you what they're made out of. Every single one of them is lined with a structure called endothelium. And this, I'm going to draw it in all of them and I'm drawing it so that I can include all my other structures. I'm trying to show you the lumen and I'm not drawing it to scale. The thickness is going to be, I'll show you my thickness in a second, but the diameter is the diameter right here. When I measure the diameter of a blood vessel, I'm measuring from the edge of endothelium to the edge of endothelium. That's across the lumen. So these are in no way drawn to scale, but I want to fit everything on here. Endothelium is simple, squamous epithelial tissue. And its name endothelium is because it's special and all lining of blood vessels is called endothelium, but it's made out of simple squamous epithelial tissue. And in some of our blood vessels, okay, I'm going to have to go with some kind of an orange here, I think, we have an elastic tissue or an elastic layer.  The other vessel that has an elastic layer but not as big is a vein. Anybody else doesn't have an elastic layer.  So in case you can't see my drawing very well, you can still appreciate the fact that everybody has the same amount of endothelium. However, veins have elastic tissue and so do arteries and arteries clearly have much more. So my drawing over here is on purpose. From anatomy, you might remember these two, I'll do it up here. One of the two structures put together was the, I can do it, tunica intima, tunica intima. So the tunica intima included the endothelium plus the elastic layer. And we just looked at the arteries and veins in anatomy. Not everybody, but some people also have smooth muscle. Arteries have a lot of it. And you know who else has a lot of it? Our arterioles. Okay, arterioles don't have as much. Can you tell the difference? I'm going to just draw it in here. Arteries have a lot of smooth muscle surrounding them. Arterioles have some but not as much as arteries. And veins have some. Veins actually have about the same amount of the arterioles but not as much as arteries. Arterioles are where you can do a lot of changing of diameter. Vasoconstriction, vasodilation can happen in arterioles. But you'll notice capillaries and venules do not have any smooth muscle at all. And then all of them, not all of them, never mind. Not all of them are surrounded by a fibrous layer. So let's do this, fibrous layer, which is just a connective tissue capsule that surrounds the whole thing. Those vessels that have the connective tissue capsule, the fibrous layer, have the same amount. So we're going to find this on our arteries and our veins. And they have the same amount of fibrous tissue. Okay, venules. I needed something else in there. I need some fibrous tissue surrounding my venules. Because the only thing that is only endothelium are the capillaries. Oh, does this work for you? Now, we're going to look at different mechanics of flow through these vessels. And then we're going to preview some, what, control homeostatic control tools in the blood pressure homeostasis toolbox. But as I already said, we're not going to talk about blood pressure homeostasis until we've looked at the kidneys because they play a big role in the whole system. Okay, so let's look at some physics of blood flow because physics is fun.


I feel that I should own a part of my history. I'm not a fan of any party. I love my country, I love my family, I love my religion. I think we should keep all the balances. I'm honored to be able to be here, to be at his funeral. I think that's what we said last time.