ure we use what's called crime prevention through environmental design also known as step 10 standards what this does is uses the environment I made some examples so again the department complex you know what you're required to put a temple or a telephone on each arm alarms make sure they all have alarms make sure that there's fancy make sure there's lighting again make sure there's lighting in open spaces at dark time right it doesn't invite folks to dark green shadows again light makes people run away for some reason so that has been a piece that we have talked about with Glenn and Joni and their staff about how do we get more of this into the coat so that as counsel and in plenty of zoning books begin to make decisions on the direction of our community how do we use some of the best practices that are out there nationwide in step 10 that allow us to try to create the safe environment for individuals so I know that's a lot I could probably talk about 45 more minutes on what we've got but what I want to I guess really what I hope that you take away is understanding that anytime you increase population there's going to be additional parts of public safety traffic accidents traffic people living together there's just a wide variety of things medical cars what not but there are programs and there are things that we are doing that have been doing for quite some time to build the relationships with those areas and begin to build relationships so for example we have over 400 properties documented in London we have over half of those are part of our crime-free multi-family housing not required to be a part of this but about 50% of those are already involved with us and are getting the information they need on a daily basis to manage their communities that they have so I know there's probably a lot of questions so I will open it up because whoever wants to go for it both of you raise your hand at the same time so is this this crime prevention through environmental design is this sort of what you're doing with some of our projects in regards to like the place of laundry rooms or things like that it's a piece of it what we're talking about in the laundry rooms is trauma or design based on the type of individuals we're going to be having but we do do that so Sarah's part of the housing story and so we are bringing the septic component on so in Christmas I'm going to be changing the fixed route because there's a dark spot and we all know what happens in a dark spot so that's the kind of input that we get on these projects so yes but it's a little bit of a design of the laundry rooms and I think the best example I can give you is speed bumps right we get a lot of complaints through a neighborhood or speeding through let's just say a carbon complex or a condo complex speed bumps force you to slow down it doesn't require a lot of forceful interaction but the design itself requires an individual to either tear their car up or actually slow down through that community so those types of things so what I'm talking about when I say that I mean like the entrance to quite good apartment you guys line through the development again putting those physical barriers doesn't allow that vehicle to ride through their $90 an hour which is what we do up they're racing through here but what it does is forces us so through design standards you can mediate or moderate or control some of the future complaints that you might get based on driving habits so this is kind of the other side of the crime free multiple because it worries me a little bit as an equity issue I understand that especially for multiple populations crime free multi housing is necessary for the safety of the people who live there and yet yesterday Harold said be careful because people are using their housing and one of the reasons they use their housing is because they have committed crimes where do they go because the last thing we want is people who have committed crimes but are not incarcerated be on the street so do we have a housing model that takes care of those? I think the model is really no I think the model is built on how do you do what you can to prevent that from ever returning and it does because there are times you can't prevent that from occurring and so when we look at the processes that we go through only affordable housing side it's exhausting and so when you hit that point you have really gone through a litany of things where you try to work with the individuals and it's just not changing now on the other side there are issues that develop that are by safety related that you have to deal with shooting someone in the unit threatening other people in a complex breaking into the office those are components that you just have to deal with but I think it gives you what Zach is saying when we look at the call volume from the properties and housing authority what it used to look like what it looks like now the call volume just went out of the way in that it was not in common for us to see 10 to 15 calls per week at the suite there are weeks we don't have as an awesome service at the suites but we're seeing that uniform in all of our properties and it is because if you don't do this it creates this and I understand all of those things but what I'm not saying is that that process which makes the properties we manage safer and have fewer calls also excludes some people what I'm asking about is what happens to the people who are excluded I think it depends on the person so I'm telling you I hear from the public they are excluded from people and they are on the streets when I say Longmont helps people into housing or Longmont helps people who are losing their housing Longmont also helps people out of housing when they are difficult to live with and infringing on rights of others and infringing on the rights of others they don't lose their rights when they're housed so I'm just I think there's a gap we need to have a way to house people it's kind of hard difficult to house this is a little off topic for what these folks are going to talk about but what we're going to be doing next is to get through these two information pieces and ask you what the success looks like in each of these areas so I would like to hang on to that I just wanted to point it out I think do you have any questions for Dr. Zach about particularly the crime rate for density or if you have any questions I appreciate you all answering this question because we have heard this several times about myself and have heard that questions about if we increase the density of online that is going to increase the crime rate and I wanted you all to have the opportunity to present that let us know if it was yes or no because we don't want to pay a false information although we know that that it really didn't and I appreciate the fact that just because the calls are being increased within the station and you know people are hearing that you see the red lights going to this certain neighborhood that doesn't mean it was a crime it could have just been somebody playing it radio too loud and the officer coming over that I don't know but I appreciate you mentioning that and also the fire side yeah so that's very important too and that we we're dealing with a human race we're dealing with people so we can control the choices that people make within their lives all we can do is try to prevent what we can do in our own city and within our departments and I appreciate the fact that having the crime prevention through environmental design and I mean I like the name of it too that's pretty cool but those are things that apartment complexes can take property owners can take these measurements and like you said we don't want to have or participate in the crime free housing that is key and so understanding that we have these programs for our community for those who own housing and we're not saying it's going to be perfectly fine for you we're not saying it because we cannot control another human being but we can put measurements in place you can put measurements in place of like making sure you have their votes on your house same thing so housing is needed in our community it does not cause increase of crime in our community but it doesn't because we have more people there may be more issues there may be more speed and there may be more complaints in our community so I just want people to think outside the box a little bit and in contact our public safety department contact our fire department to ask those questions to get the facts more so than spreading false information and if we need to have another conversation about this I would love to have another conversation with our community but educating our community is very important when we hear the same stuff over and over again that's not true and that's why I wanted to bring it up because I know that you all are doing a lot of work in a very good job so I just wanted to make sure that you put that out there hang on to that also what's the difference between crime rate and numbers of crimes you talked about specifically for long well if we're going to as our popular whatever you say just as logical as the population grows there will be more calls for variety some of the crimes some of it just nuisance so I don't think should anybody should be surprised as our population grows there's going to be more calls for a variety of things that's different it seems to me rate is a calculation it's numbers of crimes per capita numbers of crimes per automobile number of crimes per housing it's some metric that's different than just the frequency of calls because it's conceivable in my mind given what we're doing we can have a growing population a growing number of calls and a decreasing rate for the actual crime rate that would be an important statistic or a metric for us when somebody says it's out of control we have a population who should be surprised but do you understand the actual rate is going down if it is certainly get that to council for the 2022 numbers for what we've solved but again I think there's some confusion in those numbers too because if you look at crimes that we have here it doesn't mean it's by everybody that lives here in the population of Longmont so again we can look at some of our past incidents that have occurred that's made media attention and we find out that those individuals don't live here so again when you start drilling into those numbers you've got to begin specifically to look at those types of incidents because it can give you a skewed sense of what it is and so for example if you talk about motor vehicle theft I know it's a hot topic but we had an individual who was arrested I think it was 15 times over motor vehicle theft so again it doesn't mean that 15 people in our population were doing it, it's one individual and so again we can certainly get you the data of what our crime rate looked like and get that for you and certainly get that to council but again I think you have to dive even deeper into just a big crime rate 32% stolen motor vehicles got to dive a little bit further into that than just the number itself so yes sir, good question that's part of theft if we send you to our full community to make fewer opportunities for people to come in here and commit crimes that we haven't designed to correct it is correct so I want to be more cognizant to like it back to me and make sure that we understand the goal of these students are you all comfortable moving on to talk a little bit about student thank you thank you I'm going to invite Carmen to come up and join us because we had the one that we heard from councilmember McCoy around the street in the process and I'm going to invite Carmen to come up and share a little bit about the equity work that we've been doing so far particularly with respect to this topic let's see if everybody likes to not have all those stuff anywhere you want to go anywhere you want to go talk a little bit about process and I think the request came up with the review of the task force in the process there's a little more context we think you would probably benefit from so Carmen and I made this community and these are the resources thanks for allowing me to come forward on this conversation so I want to put up a few things just as background information that I think will be helpful I want to start off with my understanding of Mount Evans has been postponed due to getting additional tribal consultation and what I will say on that is that what has been so important is when it comes to renaming is consulting with the very communities that are impacted and those voices are the ones that are up front in this the last time that we did have a renaming that was brought forward by community members out in the communities so if you recall, Shavington is now sunrise but that came from a community that brought that forward they did not live on the street and that's an important piece to note that it came from communities who did not live on the street it then elevated to the point that we had to have a community-wide conversation and a neighbor conversation and then assist the neighbors in understanding the importance of that name changed the why and then assisting them with the how so we helped with paying for postage to give out notice first they picked the name because they lived there and then helping them with change of addresses everything from postage to community meetings to help them understand as your street name is changing so that technical logistical is what community and neighborhood resources assisted with so we have that, we are now at this point but I wanted to start with something else so I'm going to start with our land acknowledgement and when you hear this land acknowledgement I think what the next step is to talk about actions and this council is pretty much the council that adopted this land acknowledgement so we acknowledge that Longman sits on the traditional territory of the Cheyenne, the Rappaho youth and other indigenous people we honor the history and the living and spiritual connection that the first people have with this land it is our commitment to face the injustices that happen when the land was taken and to educate our communities, ourselves and our children to ensure that these injustices do not happen again when I read this out wherever I'm at I immediately then go to the action because we don't want this statement to be a token statement it is a living statement and so the way that we have brought life to this and created action one started with our relationship with the northern Rappaho I took several years to build that relationship I never would have imagined that I would be in a sweat lodge with council members and the mayor that and especially for me because that's a very private part of my life and now I've got council in a sweat lodge so but what it really hinged on was building relationships getting to know one another and understanding the injustices that happen and where do we create so the first youth exchange that we did before we do any youth exchange for the youth and for the parents and the chaperones we go through what is called a doctrine of discovery so we go through an exercise that shows the students and the parents and those that are chaperoning what that means and what that history is we are in a lot of native communities is that we are not gone we are not a part of history we are here and if you'll see in our museum we have this exhibit I hope everybody gets to see it it's called duality and it's that mixture of very traditional there's a piece in there regarding boarding schools we did a lot of education with the first council around the story of northern Rappaho and Cheyenne and how the division how they were moved we also did a lot of education around boarding schools for council and for community members we also did a lot of education around a film called Two Rivers and Two Rivers was a community that said well I lived here but I think there might have been other people here before me who are they, where are they and how do we rebuild relationships and rebuilding of the relationships has been key so when I see this I laminated this because it has a land acknowledgement and it has a picture of the first youth that came down all ten of them stayed at my house because we had to understand that I could not do a traditional where you send them out to a home many of the kids have never left the reservation I'm not going to put them in a home where they don't know okay so we've progressed our youth go up there so just as you saw with sister cities our youth are going to Japan to Mexico to northern Arapahoe but not only our youth we have community members that have formed that I think Dr. Waters took a ride up to northern Arapahoe up to Wind River to meet and talk to people to hear stories we have a meeting next week with business council members to talk about open space and what are opportunities all of these are initial conversations because we want to be careful to tend to the relationship and to be culturally appropriate and sensitive right it's a heavy conversation if you haven't seen we have a little documentary a little documentary by little and it tells the story more importantly that same month during Native American month we did a series of films but we also brought in people from northern Arapahoe to have a conversation and I think Dr. Waters recalls one of the things that my husband do you want to share that well Ray was sharing he was in North Carolina as I recall and there was a panel that included leadership from a tribe there and the topic of reparations came up and there was an audience member as I recall the story who reacted to the idea of reparations saying you know I'm not responsible for what my grandfather did or my father did don't hold me accountable and raise description of the leader of this indigenous people sitting on the states that you know I would never hold you accountable if your grandfather or your father stole a horse from my family I would hold you accountable unless you still have a horse pretty powerful state so I think we are looking at opportunities on what I want to relationship build to bring in and make visible communities of color we do that in different fashions but we are really working on that and sometimes what happens is that that good stuff that happens isn't necessarily known by everybody but we also want to be mindful of investing to create that consciousness so that it is at a higher level I will tell you that to this day we used to have an event called Inclusive Communities that highlighted 15 different like about 15 different cultural groups local we had our African American community or Chinese or Nepalese or Native American community or Sami community believe it or not we got a couple folks that are Sami's and we would bring them forward to this and so I'm mentioning all this because I think it's important in your conversation to be mindful of where do we invest to raise that community consciousness where do we invest to continue to have challenging conversations Lama Multicultural Action Committee has worked on last year a Voices of Change and they brought through and we had a Voices of Change panel on hate crimes and we had someone from the NAACP in El Boulder, the LGBTQ community and the DA's office as well as one on the Latino community and one on the Native American community those continuations I think are really helpful in that raising of consciousness but I also think that it is you as leaders those steps that you want to take in regards to whether it's retribution or whether it's consciousness raising I will leave that in your hands to discuss but I thought that this information might be helpful so Do you have a recommendation for us on this particular request to become a member of the board? Does it make more sense to take this as part of the relationship building of the Northern Red Bull Tribe or Multicultural Action Committee is there a recommendation that you have for the council? Well, and I'm biased Are we all? I'm biased because I really believe that the work that we're doing through Sister Cities and the work that we're doing through the Multicultural Action Committee has a potential to reach that education and when we talk about education how to really be authentic of being telling the true story and who's story and who gets to be the storyteller so when we meet with Northern Rappahoe about open space we want them to be the one telling the story. That means good and bad. I recently had a conversation about Sam Stone and what story is told there on Sankrete it's only one version so we're going to work with them to tell another one. So I think it's a choice do you want to take on this issue or do you want to invest in other ways where we can continually raise that consciousness and that education given that it is very hard to reach the whole community but I think it also is important and that recognition of why names are changing there's an article that we're circulating regarding the the stake taking a pause and going back but I wanted to call out something else and that article of some name changes would happen because this is not just a Native American issue there used to be a place called Negro Creek and Negro Mesa's don't even know it didn't even know right it's been changed to Clay Creek and Clay Mesa there are communities that still have sundown locked so there is an important piece to that as to looking back at names places as well as policies that maybe were placed there for their specific to be derogatory to limit access those kinds of things so I will leave that conversation as I said I'm biased the community work that we're doing building bridges I had a young man who was here today when we brought in folks are to do a we had and we also had a film on and it's a young man from here a young white man who came up to me and was kind of tearful and thanked us for giving him the opportunity as he said I would never have had this opportunity and then having young people and I think Dr. Waters and Susie were in the council chambers when our long line youth and our northern Arapaho youth took over the council chambers they became council and I won't say but they voted on building your rooms for the youth center and the swimming pool so they already gave you direction on what their needs were so I will tell you that since we started this sister cities hired a northern Arapaho young woman to be their summer intern during last summer I frequently have people staying at my house because this is a place where they feel welcome and they feel at home I think that piece of at least Boone Hunter said this when we did the signing for the northern Arapaho he said I've heard stories of my homeland I am I'm not going to say his age but he's older and he said I have never been to Estes and I've heard stories Dr. Waters remembers stories of why we came through here and to feel welcome and to feel like we can enter into a conversation a present-day conversation not a past-day conversation but I also think it's important to fix those mistakes from the past so I know I didn't answer the question I appreciate your wisdom so a lot of these really cognizant of the time we have an hour left we have an hour left we've got four goals that we would like to talk about what the success will look like to kind of finish out today is there more conversation you'd like to talk about? I just have comments thank you Carmen I really appreciate that and the purpose of bringing this up is that I think we should as a community be cognizant of when there are efforts to make a change like we're seeing with Mount Heaven to not be toned up to the situation and it's not just more than a wrap-up I think of people like my wife's sister's husband for his mother who grew up in a German camp not here but in California you know we have another relationship with a camp you know I'm not proposing any stretch of imagination going through looking at changing every I think it's a good thing to have this practice in place talking to Carmen there's like that thing out but these things the names of streets when we do I think there's room in there for maybe that group to consider looking at this as well and I just think that we certainly don't want to have a community for every talking about sustainability and safety and all these other aspects not address that and so I think there's our preservation commission we've got these other community groups that do some of this work here and we can build it out of them and it wouldn't be that to make a challenge for them to help move this forward but I also think that you don't have to live on the street to feel slight wrong in order to have improvements and so I think that it's set in the right direction it's progressive in the sense of restricting others and so I think it's something that we should consider doing and as just that when I hear members of the public that are against it I think it's a tone of deafness to that reality of how people are going to deal and so we have I see it certainly makes sense I think for us to follow maybe the state particularly not events as a specific one to the topic but perhaps relying on the long model of technology we're bringing this up and this is a concern that the council has that maybe a better way than creating a separate task force and then maybe the limitations but we're on maybe we're going to to various characters maybe not presidents things like that I don't know what our parameters would be with how they could talk themselves I think I think it's always going to have conversations like this many of us don't know about the needs of the city but if someone brings it up it's worth to do some research how does that relate to color model or design or get the conversation started it will be a long road and again looking at our base level of services I don't think this is something that you know, staff should be on that be a good place to start to start consultation that's how it works I support that I didn't want to so we going forward this is in the inbasking work on that or if you're a community group this is not something that we're going to move forward with is that what we are that's what I'm going to take you to right now it's brutal not that she wouldn't give a community group a right a relationship I think like her caravan said she's had a number of things going on but one of them is to be real mindful and not as we're building a relationship to be really careful and we don't do something in the interest of doing good that has an unintended consequence that has an effect on the larger relationship of building out I think that's part of life which is a good guidance I like your words your words were good thank you maybe I'll maybe just want to take it on and I'll make those things it would just be so my question would be what would you like to ask Elmack we currently are going to start a very small kind of needs assessment around our cultural communities and issues that are happening in the community but if you were how do I state the question to Elmack are you interested in researching this thing of evidence in terms of reading and how it relates to Elmack it makes so many more that individually would be interested but that's all I would ask if you ask me for consultation what does Elmack recommend and how would they rank that as far as their priority exactly exactly yes but Elmack is already doing it is having the awareness of the cultures greater communities and what Dunn looks like there is that the community says oh this in our community isn't sensitive let's change it rather than us imposing it on a community as it happened before and so I think that while we the public not necessarily the council but the public needs to get more behind Elmack and support their events and donate and all that stuff to enable them to do their multicultural outreach in our city now that in terms of the approach they're taking it's only like so let's do a real fast thumbs up and thumbs down if you want to ask Elmack if they're interested in pursuing a discussion you know important and would councilman McCord want to come and they're reading the second Monday of every month that knew you were difficult so I know that would work but we could figure out whatever and I want to just very quickly tell you about how things like that got initiated so many many well everybody here knows that the largest day of the day in the state of Colorado is here among so we had the largest largest day of the day celebration does everybody know what question was asked that started it so our former museum director passed away Martha Clevenger asked the question as to why do Latinos not come to the museum and we gathered a group of Latinos and we asked that question and they said we didn't know we were welcomed and what do you have that would be meaningful and attractive and we created the day of the dead and that became more and more bigger like much like inclusive communities we've outgrown all of our facilities sometimes those questions are really helpful to us finding a way to really highlight our communities of color a DODT community as an asset in our community so I point that out Segal de Mayo is the only celebration in the state of Colorado where there is no alcohol and no tobacco it is family oriented we don't know those historical pieces that also created change or those historical stories that also inclusive communities started because there was a group of folks that felt that council our decision makers did not see our communities of color so we brought them into the civic center mall and when the Tongans and the Peruvians were having a dance off and no one wanted to go into city council meeting city council said well I think we should find another place but the interactions the relationships that happen I think are very important everybody knows Rita Lu and the amazing work that she has done around Chinese New Years so I think those those relationships are key thank you okay that asks the master and he is back and you have four main areas and our question is what does success look like so shall we start with housing that's important throw that to me what does success look like to you all so we have a team I have one yes the people who work here can importantly they so choose to live here I'm thinking about our teachers our police department staff but we have no more safe thoughts is there no longer safe okay obviously it makes great sense because there is no longer a meeting well what does success look like does that mean that there is always from day to day someone needs it is that what no more safe thoughts would mean would that be something important well safe thoughts are people who live and work here so attacks along the way is the same I mean if we have more safe thoughts safe thoughts are short term decisions but some of them fall out of their housing and they can be home is when you say no more safe thoughts would that mean that there are enough units there is always a vacancy I would suggest enough units but if you want there to always be a vacancy there is also this balance of trying to make sure that you don't have too many vacancies yes but there are always vacancies probably not just in the LHA but in all the communities there are always vacancies not about numbers of units certainly I would salute what's up there somehow for me success would be letting in a community less characterized by moving and I don't know how much how responsible we are or can be for vending or altering that perception one of your slides yesterday you used the other actors please please in my manner somehow we could alter that actually plan that inspirational goal I saw somewhere my attention that we could what have some influence on it I know we can't own it people some eyes to let you use their hearts somehow maybe it's just basic economics the fear that people have a different kind of housing unit in my neighborhood somehow it's going to diminish my housing value which I don't think there's any evidence for the crime what's the contradiction we're counsel we're counsel plays into this what do we need from you I think in the last conversation I believe they were at that and they were curious when you talk about that they said we need housing and here's what we need housing because of these issues and I think there was really that point of digging into that topic in my backyard by saying here's what we need those are examples to say well how do we handle that I think that's what we need to talk about so I think there's a way to incorporate that for me to be something that the counsel have had some impact there's a matter of mobility so as people move through their lives swear they need to live change I hear because being on the senior advisory board there's people in their big houses and they either have the ability to downsize because the stock doesn't exist because it's as expensive as their house and nor they have the ability to make their house more accessible that would allow them to stay there so that's it's a nuance but it is also a co-related thing how do you how do you make your upper story into a new how do you find the money to do that so that you can still live on the life there's all kinds of real there are barriers that we don't know so because it's so expensive it's a great point we almost need to layer in that life cycle journey and journey map new home buyers to this point maximizer needs and then I think that's a good way to think about it so Marcia I characterize that as housing is accessible and flexible for various stages of life everybody who wants to move up or down can any other one about housing the only other question we had and it's something we heard from Chiquilla yesterday in the first slide that Glenn put up he had two the two pictures from the code speak to I think the missing middle that we talked about before I guess if I had a better understanding of what percentage of housing stock that's either proposed or underdeveloped would fit the category missing middle if there's anything we're doing with code because in the light of the month that would be a question is there anything we have to do with code that would enable or send or signal that we'd like to see of the missing middle so yeah we can answer Valerie has to do that and light up I have a whole lot of slides there's a lot of code work we can do because I think you said today that housing stock would be a thing that would probably work out be attainable I think the closest project that I've seen was some out home housing stock 66 and I could go into my way while they say from the 500 the reality was 650 and it was no more than this a little bit and so I don't think we're starting to see some of it come in a little bit or we can get it to come in but the economics are really driving that because we see zero for sale it's a little bit more affordable outside of what happened we had a presentation a couple of years ago it was all about the missing it was a good presentation we identified everything from street quits to sidewalk quits to tree numbers of trees building materials neighborhood character all those things that we have shown up in code but we've never gone back to that well now because I was the money director then so I believe council did not direct us to move forward with the several of those things so missing it will be a lot of things it could be as simple as do you allow 280U's per lot do you allow more duplex, triplex I think some of those while we've changed our code and have loosened up what the standards are between the attached single family and detached single family I think we have a lot of envy around those types of things in existing single family neighborhood we are predominantly forwarding that per acre density community so that shift of that kind of housing I think is absolutely on board but it's going to it's going to take some I think it's got a radical so that success and care would be that if we could calculate percentages of new housing stock in a particular category we could mark improvements in that type of housing stock over the next five years or two part of what's going to come out of this as you can see this is what we were working on the last couple of years you all approved the price calculation you all gave us direction on the securities the housing assessment that's coming in is something that I think will inform some of this I'm starting to see the preliminary numbers shocking just on the rental side we're short and that's the piece that I'll inform I think the basis of how we're comparing and what we're building and I think it's your can see some of these other code changes that are associated with the attainable B waiver that's what you all have directed us to do that's going to be coming on April 4 that's what took a long time to figure out the D restrictions associated with it and then the design standards to allow more flexibility with utility setbacks because the model that we have in our seamal family structure will not produce this annual indefinite and affordable homes and so we're having to look at how do we maximize density to really get those more self-products so that you can actually have a well-generated home isn't it? how do we maximize density to really get those more self-products of a well-generated home isn't this because people are always running there's no well-generated and deep people in silence as you're thinking of what does success look like I think there's another indicator that I would throw out is maybe we can work on this but what I told you all yesterday about housing is the technique how we communicate it to we have a housing crisis that will become a financial crisis and an economic development crisis as we can hire people and when they can live in our communities and at times it can become an operational crisis so if we have to continue to re-look at our boundaries to where our operations staff can live with response times and we have to keep pushing that further there is a tangible impact on the service we provide and it's not just us it's schools and it's the employer base and as I said yesterday the ultimate risk is people can't hire their employees to work in these places and then they end up having to make other decisions which then creates a spin cycle you see in cities all the time and look at the mid-west and see where it's up and through that so kind of rehashing some things to have you all think about what this is like you know what let's back out to like what this is like is that question on the table because I don't know what we do with demonstration neighborhoods or highlighting the demonstration neighborhoods that we often have like which is so gorgeous in summertime you know but we need acceptance you know we don't need nice lovely town boom developments at home farm and at champion greens and the resistance is still holding we need to we need to do something to obtain acceptance and I think some model to ease in with the areas of change you know I just talked about here now but we also talked to a journalist from the Guardian who is using writing about prospect and why it is both and the ill perfect example why it didn't change the culture of the community I hope that's what she writes about but we do model communities that you know a lot of work but there are many ways to change the public attitude about density and seeing how how wonderful a community that is more dense, more lovable more varied can actually be well I was just going to say in a certain concept you can only do that by actually building it in a sense that remember all the pushback rounds Rosebell Park apartments right and I think it's the same thing change is scary for a lot of people but once it happens they tend to adapt to it the adaptability of the human you know of humans is pretty remarkable once they're faced with it and so sometimes you just go make hard decisions and put the things where they go so are we going to do that so early childhood what does success look like well I've always seen this this is herald early childhood and yeah the way I've always heard it is early childhood and education that seems appropriate actually it's your favorite preference for early care and education success for exciting every student to the degree that parents want them in a place are placed in an environment that is a development appropriately and affordably accessible in high quality should probably have zero to five okay and zero to five because we didn't have this as three to four right yeah so every zero can we get the neighborhood aspect of it there somewhere we should be able to build one in a location where it's not there it's just like a food desert part of what we're looking at is child care deserts there's no child care deserts that's about the accessible affordable affordable when you're a parent who does the work you want your kid to either be close to home or close to work you don't want to have to drive 25 minutes if your kid has fallen on their head nearby do whatever that is work down do it real quick just look into this slide it's getting real tiny it's my problem and not yours well it's just maybe every five year old at least living within the city limits along the line I wish we could experiment at least the same right now arrives in kindergarten school right you know I'm not ready to put visions or anything like that I'm not you said I like you okay got it already alright school ready school ready kindergarten school ready okay five year old four year old grad school kindergarten so every incoming kindergarten yes how would you put it in kindergarten yeah yeah that's better now you can say arrives arrives in kindergarten any other ones for this one I'll just say amen amen I was going to give you an amen earlier just keep that inappropriate moment I'll always take an amen transportation that's a lot Christiana your joke transportation and you know I wish aren't you on your vision you're talking about mobility you're talking about more of a one type of transportation so what is success thanks for saying close all the emotional transportation accessibility all residents for all mobility for all mobility yeah yeah social I think I'm sure the other council members probably got straight up hang on here I want to make sure everyone's over here sorry I think most of the council members probably also got emails in the last day or two that were all specific to connectivity issues where yes we have bike infrastructure here but it doesn't connect anywhere and so I would think that connectivity is built out or something along those lines arts full connectivity is built so that's what's spent on all of this things full connected or if you think it should be if you say it's difficult it's not right well I tend to like it I tend to think that we want to keep it at the level of the so many community members that might not understand that I understand that if you know I tend to think that it's not really set complete connectivity and transportation I don't like the way that sounds because it's not just by the word yeah yeah but you want to talk about sleep too, you want to talk about health at zero mission zero for concepts especially so that they can get out there they can price the street especially on busy streets or on main streets they don't have to take the life into their own hands how likely you want to call those zero interactions right? yes so if we have zero interactions that would be success we'll talk about zero there's a lot of serious questions we understand there's going to be accidents and crashes and digits are also prioritized with destinations yeah it's also safe for the whether it's realistic or not, it's inspired to not have which is all I thought it was zero traffic fatalities traffic prioritized pedestrians doesn't get cyclists no but I think it's higher up on a couple of dollars the traffic we were talking about transportation we wanted to go in the next couple months it's flipping an area so we're going to talk about pedestrians for bicycles and transit riders not necessarily check the third one it's better to have a higher level of focus on traffic traffic it's moving from a car-centric focus just to change the focus of a human focus is you can manage that car that the city welcomes people without comfortable people it's not a requirement that should be to your point I have this money back to people's pots it's not a requirement it's well about $1 a year without the payment do you get any insurance? insurance no no transportation I'm going to interject myself a little bit you're going to see some of that transportation the transportation system facilitates affordable and affordable housing because I think we often forget about that but a robust transportation system will facilitates just that housing we have some developments now that are in that left town sort of wanting the streets that are so difficult to get insurance and external transportation now it's really cool looking and edgy at the time when we were putting it in but really disconnected to the reality of getting people from point A to point B without using the car that's very insightful okay one more everybody all right give me a thumbs up if we're good thank you we'll get you home at least a month back then stains some of it is the plan right but you'll be too narrow minded about that of course these happen to be a lightning round the other thing that occurred to me was Council Member Wires in this particular section mentioned the idea of being able to seize the opportunity to come up with an area keep us in point our main street specifically to the downtown area or are we talking about the extension you're super cool because I this brings me up to a thing that's kind of held but suggestions of what long lines should get in regards to the sort of industry that comes in and it always felt like it was kind of like you guys should get that stuff but you know it might have been a gene pool or maybe diversify our employment base was kind of sometimes the doper it's one of the things that I always but mine is kind of the issue that when you say seize opportunities how it's like you mentioned today about having a group that you should come in and relocate here and everything but you know are we looking at those diversified businesses are we're seizing opportunities so your point is not like seize the opportunities that they present themselves but also work, actively work to attract opportunities yeah to that point to your point about recently and I would say in the past year and now there's a lot of perspective on trust with the directors on some of the things that they bring up as we all individually look at these so so a lot of it so not only actively work to attract opportunities but opportunities that we want in our city not just in I think you have some vision plans that they give about things to improve that plan as well for me I know we had entertainment all of that when I visited the high school we all know that the youth want something that's fun and it will be really nice that we can have something with the youth in mind where we can have our younger generation also utilize that space to be proud of I have to I would go a little further on that yeah that keeps our youth in our city I mean many of our other cities so it would be not just you educate ourselves on what I don't know how to say it but up to date like real product gaming because that is the new thing kids want well it doesn't have to be just kids I mean younger adults too younger adults go different because it's not here, it's nothing to do here she'll give you that I never felt this cute you're cute she's done that herself that section does an economic development thing too it's kind of like those movies in the park you know that sort of thing like which you did in the area that was almost like a driving movie theater or gaming in certain aspects of that certain kinds of gear that we can show everyone when we can maybe have a gaming aspect outdoors the next week would kind of make that worse the both for me imply a real proactive approach on part of city staff in this list of this part of the list of priorities because there are others that love this it just feels like this one as much as I love the work you've done ought to be more opportunistic as opposed to proactive or responsible but there's some work required to draw something which you can respond which would be a real clear, crisp compelling vision of possibilities in this part of town it's not like maybe it's like we're constantly developing that kind of vision we've got a head start on that but if we're going to list 2 and 3 that has to be that's where I'm going to measure progress in a year from now you know there are other pieces of accountability so how do we promote it and I'm just not certain that that's where we need to put you right I would feel like number 3 you sort of acted on last time by asking these services to make recommendations around which I think fits right into that so how is the record routine doing how is the collective impact record routine doing maybe the council needs a readout from this before before we codified that whole point completely so maybe this is work with LAPP yeah that's what I was going to suggest because the LAPP knows what council is looking for and rather than just work commercial places for people to work like I mean we've got sponsors and working and we also have a different vision that LAPP would arise that helps that yeah so success for me especially the main street I hear it often times the east side of it will give something more to that more to side equal amounts as I do you know that all sections of main street that have robust economic opportunities businesses and vitality I would do do your primary badge on those words but you know I would like to see that all all areas are given equal attention to you and do you mean that you would want to approach that for the additional taxation that's good you know so you know it could be or it's for an area of town authority you know that a big arrow in my head yeah certainly already Jody's talking about this I think you know I'm going to latch on to the comments you all made about where others would do it but maybe we reach out to the chamber and ask the chamber to really be that initiative with the businesses on more main street to look at the creation of the general of the district or something just the same funding sources it's a time to say I mean we do it then it's the same people that are doing housing yeah I don't know but if there are other people that would engage with having to take the leave the merchants need to take the leave the chamber could facilitate that because I think when I talk to business owners a lot of it is they don't know how they don't have time they're just facilitating that and leading the way I think a lot of people the yellow meaning is downtown downtown downtown that's what I'm trying to so could we just add in there also the Tino chamber because there's that section of 9th Avenue there that has such a strong grouping of businesses that it just seems like such a spot that have that really developed in such a strong interaction one of the challenges of North Virginia is the number of businesses that are in buildings owned by landlords someplace else contrasting them the property owners down to voted in the creative district voted the tax themselves in uptown that's going to require landowners who are not business owners that's the tension on North Virginia I was in a conversation once with folks about where to start with that maybe in terms of a co-op in terms of purchasing and maintenance as a way to test the ideas that is where maybe maybe the chamber just to just see what's possible but I know that the ownership issues are so different but maybe we could get one of our local banks to put together an investment plan that would persuade both the tenants and the landlords to somehow come up with a solution probably enable them to I think that's certainly starting any more I think would be a little hard to manage so my proposal is for you to rely on your CEO now to bring back those metrics that would follow along with these designers with six of them I thought you had too much to do wow but how do you know what to do I had a bullet three yesterday's slide right next to the last slide bullet three goals meant a lot you offered that up I feel like I heard that what this does is what we're doing really keeping you here and then we will take this it's manageable enough if you look at the last slide this is manageable enough to take this and I think in fairly short order this will be the work that this group is going to be engaging in in the next few weeks in terms of how we do this obviously we'll bring in strategic integration into this we'll build that onto this so that we will report to you but you will also have the ability to go in on your own and in communities can we talk about this going forward as our work plan, not the council work plan it always bothered me a little bit that you didn't know our work plan and staff didn't necessarily own our work plan it shouldn't be our work plan it's the council work plan it should be something on which we are all working to get very reasonable I agree I think this is a little bit of a process where it was a collective giving take if you're moving through this which this is our work plan okay so I'm recognizing that it is five until three and I know that we are running to head off at three you want to offer any ordinances before you go and we'll take a break and say a few and we'll do that too well then a lightning round it is are you ready what ordinances would you like to review recognizing everything you heard today about work mode and priorities and everything you just laid out there for us what would you like to review so I thought one that doesn't have to be immediate but maybe has 18 months to be worked out and that is section 14.32.040 residential self-generation I only got 14.3 14.4 14.32.040 okay residential self-generation ready it can allow 200% of last year's consumption and fix the problem where you don't have access to that you can't get it for a minute at all and it needs to be tied into some incentives for solar plus battery or other electrification incentives and it needs to be tied to the capacity of the neighborhood so just like you can only have so many short term rentals in an area I'm going to develop a theme that will be discussed in pretty much but similarly it needs to be kind of the first health first service situation to tie it to the capacity of the grid in the neighborhood or the consumer can pay for the upgrade if the consumer can we have consumers who have already done that pay for operating the service to the house and I'm not trying to dictate all of that I'm just saying all this stuff has to be in it and that you know what needs to be there for about 18 months and so on it doesn't have to happen that fast I heard you mentioned the word storage yeah I said storage solar plus battery or electrification plus solar right here didn't it start storage in another column because it's tied to the capacity yeah right we don't want to logistically give you the trouble okay what else I'm not going to give you code numbers but whatever we have to need to address the code to address the missing middle the bundle missing middle maybe I should say the bundle of code changes to address the missing middle housing style when we talked about the more we just didn't get the direction and is a reflection of what we heard that would be one secondly I think we ought to not ignore what anymore I don't know if it's the SDR or the short term rental ordinance to refocus on that and what we are allowing or not and the reasons why SDR is for you to use it well I don't know it's actually safer if the talent is right it's true I don't mean to argue just want to get it and I had a conversation with Harold so you kind of know we had a conversation about this what you were going to bring back at least give to me so the question was Susie had been hearing the ADU's conversations and if it was part of a strategy that communities are using it would be an important policy for the same or it might entourage us if you look nationally that is one of the strategies that they talk about and we have information on that we can send it to all other councils that's part of what we're going to hear from you can you give parenthesis there of government policies so new zoning policy so by right I would like people to go in somebody knows what makes it to the legislature exactly right what about some things that we've heard from folks that have talked to us before and councils sent us emails to Striders Point 16 years ago talking about how we have some sort of transportation for the system something that the US staff talks about that whether we do it ourselves or whether we do it ourselves okay since we are which we should address ADU's we also should address lands and marijuana I don't know what that says I don't know what you're playing Canada's Hospitality Canada's Hospitality yeah it's like how's the little we all should know Sandy can we say remove say local transit local motorized transit or microtransit or something because grid is prescriptive grid name may not be the solution microtransit or grid filter system because that's what Striders is not behind you did we ever resolve I don't think we have resolved conflicts between the inclusion of inclusionary housing ordinance that we adopted and what is in our land use codes where I can go back to my files and dig out the conflicts I don't think they have ever been resolved but maybe there was I think there were some where it tied into the 11 inclusionary housing issues we were going to deal with once upon a time we dealt with the nine of them and I think two of them to that point, Sandy of the government policy that should be land use policy since that's what it is highly government policies land use policy there you go because it does address the inclusionary housing and what we need so that's why I stand there with us so we had a conversation a while back with water staff about how we need or don't really need the irrigation of green areas around subdivisions that are long arterials I know that's one I've gotten from staff to look at modernizing that Jeff, can you explain that a little bit if you say looking at our our there's free tap, there's free water in the arterial tap so in that section five is probably just yeah the landscaping standards can we end now all in with landscaping standards and alignment with our sustainability plan as we can stand up that's what we've been talking about landscaping standards free water tap sustainability plan except that we're kind of moving in different places so we can think about the rules and that's one that we're actually looking at we're actually just talking about it I'm always been wondering about school districts are they metered or how they are getting the same as residents or H.A.s they're operating from a local system they're in a commercial level the school district does have to use that in a different way because that's their ownership okay so when I was in a training with Valerie a couple weeks ago we were talking about how we're using next light cameras and parks and stuff like that is there anything that we are in a position that would get us in trouble in regards to filming people and stuff like that and just making sure that that's not something we should press down so we keep it we have a data governance team that does work on what that privacy looks like so we do have a data governance agreement for the cameras and what that looks like and it really goes with that so when I watched the data show where I stopped it it was actually on long run they were utilizing private phones and so between that commercial public space you're dealing with private cameras okay that's the right question that's a good question we talked about September 10th and applying that in 24 hours one of these in parks I'm sorry 12, 170 years one of these in parks we've been a lot of crimes just by doing that especially if it's a September design is that it's not an ordinance more operational more operational but a group that did go to the September training and they are bringing back our conditions and the other ordinance how about thinking about talking about expanding that's an ordinance what are you I'm just trying to I'm just looking like you know any other ordinances that you're dealing with that for modernization I don't think about because we did get a lot of buy-in for building the kind of neighborhoods that will demonstrate the new style of living that we want to promote also because the model of gathering people in big office buildings has kind of collapsed and they need to be more excuse when they are 4.10.010 eliminated 50% requirement in sub item E8 in favor of some percentage that's lower like 5 to 10% because office intensive districts don't exist anymore but we do need intensive living in these two neighborhoods 4.10.010 eliminate the percentage of what there's a 50% requirement for 50% no more than 50% residential in these mixed use districts are okay for that pardon I was trying not to say it was talking about residential in those districts that's exactly what I thought you were talking about the new percent and it's 53% and our MP is filled down in those who are not building that way did this right then eliminate the percentage of what the 50% residential in these mixed use districts I'll study what we need to figure out what the right we don't want any one of the purely residential stuff but figure out what the right mixed use area should be there are things like looking in ground source heat exchange subsystems that would need special financing that's an important justification for that we're going to have this is probably pretty important how we can develop more businesses what could they be yeah we just have yeah we just have everything at 4.72 3.49 we've not been talking about the necessity to as a Frankenstein section so we'd like to make sure we're seeing how we want to bring those incentives forward to council and Jessica we started that before COVID so it's been in our minds and I should mention if your council was a table of other ordinances that we had plans to grant for so there was some public safety there was some public safety there was some public safety and a lot of public safety there was some public safety so will they just be coming back for orders? those kinds of ordinances change is definitely back as operational we just wanted to get your great start and to be clear with you all so obviously we're talking about core services we're talking about what your goals are and then we're talking about this so the decision making process is going to be core ordinances related to core services your goals, ordinances related are not where there's not a great connection we will work within our capacity so some of these are related to housing so obviously that will slide in there but some of them that aren't directly touching one of your primary goals that may have to weigh up a little bit so back to just real quick when you said somebody to be related to housing can you give any ordinances to have an assessment of housing the condition of those housing and the idea to be good yes yeah I had it was at the bottom of my list because I couldn't find the ordinances our habit of moving ordinances are like it can't be fewer than a person at least square feet and it can't the buildings have to use this the state have the habitability for a well meeting it are really weak but we can strengthen our habitability for this currently so currently we're adopting the talking maintenance code that's part of the family by the CC codes international codes right that's what we adapt that's what Dave and Alexandria expect to work through and I can talk to them and take a look at that okay what we have now is really we can barely build air conditioning build hot water or something and it's beautiful okay, am I wrong? no we have to have running water yeah we have to have running water if it's not necessary or not alright that's why okay, we're going to take a five minute break to let everyone who is here from the public that has not signed up for public and private speakers feel free to use that are everybody ready? yes alright Ruby you have four okay, my name is Ruby this mountain this mountain is where the four primary sacred mountains are the Navajo people or the dead it represents the eastern boundary of the Navajo eastern lands it's a part of our creation stories it is important to me that I have been in just north of La Jolla near the county of Christo in the south way of the beach so named after Kate Carson Kate Carson was an American soldier who implemented a scorched bird campaign against Navajo people he was responsible for carrying out the federal government's plan of rounding up the people and making them walk hundreds of miles from Northern Arizona to an interned camp at Los Cabe Redondo in eastern New Mexico it's known as the Long Lawn the Navajo people have suffered immensely just like the Arapaho and Cheyenne people suffered at St. Creed it's an abomination that a deep honoring Kate Carson a murderer is near a Navajo sacred mountain it's an abomination that a street in Long Lawn is named after John Evans the one who stole the coins that brought about the St. Creed massacre the city prides itself and has paid the sister city of the Northern Arapaho of Lynn River please honor that relationship by removing John Evans name from Long Lawn forever and I appreciate Council Member McCoy reading this issue to God Thank you Mike Schnauzhauer Hey there I'm Mike Schnauzhauer 69 River Road I have an interesting two notes at first I would like everyone to know how incredibly thrilled I am at what transpired here today 15 years ago when I first spoke to City Council I addressed them in the Council chambers about the imminent threat of a hundred-year flood point or a flood event that could cost $300 million of damage how the threat of this was exacerbated by climate change so if they were proactive they could build a vision for the River Road as an economic engine for the city a vital cultural and social part of the city going back to the original reason that Chicago County came here away that way to see the change over these years of course we had a flood event that helped expel great things for good or for bad but to see the change we had a flood the City Council for the citizens for the staff for the incredible change of the difference between night and day that I've seen over the past 15 years and the courage it took of this community for citizens and particularly the staff to make that change happen so I'd just like to acknowledge and really applaud that it's just night and day that I did not see brought into here today I didn't prepare a statement I just jotted down some things but I would like to see more conversation around the issue of systems thinking because the issues that we're talking about here are more complex than they're all intertwined it's what I would refer to probably now as the public crisis the intertwining of the wicked systems like climate change sustainability, environmentalism sustainability and a couple of things that were not mentioned the digital revolution and the threat of economic downfall if we don't get proactive around the threat of the digital revolution and the impact it would have on the jobs and the economy I'd like to so a way to address systems thinking a little more digestible is the phrase multi-solving if we can build more walkable, biteable communities where you don't have it on a car and you meet the basic human need of being able to live without being forced on a car you help address issues like budgetary issues that allow monies for health and education and all these issues we're talking about just quickly, equity intergenerational equity we have a moral obligation to provide political plans we have my generation as a moral obligation provide a livable planet and a flourishing future for the next generation since they had war and we need to go through the conversation about equity lastly housing is a building where we talk about construction defects law, municipal code and public wealth funds thank you I love your passion I love it you can stay here follow thanks yeah the street name things some of you were here and remember when we changed Chedrington Drive one of our members was Ernie Graylin his grandfather settled in Burlington in 1859 and Chedrington's people came through and he was out loud and they said you're coming with us you're going to be one of them they put a gun to his head and said yeah you're coming that's how they recruited some of the people to engage and set up a great massacre and once we lost in city council some of you know who the council was then and we got an approval to have a plaque explaining who Chedrington was and then the city council who had brought us down then they said okay we'll change the name because they didn't want history and history they gave me nice awards here but they prevented me from speaking for the last couple of years Jim Jordan the black lady poet wrote a book saying some of us did not die some of us were still here I talked to Bernard Lafayette two days ago he was the first SNCC organizer to go in the cell in 1963 we had a good talk and he said I'm going to take the cell and put it on the map of the world and we did I was an internal security force for the march on Montgomery marched all day and led security all night and I would not have the chance to speak someday but anyway part of it digital next life I on my trailer but I have to red flag and they prevent us violate us from getting next life we're not allowed to have it because they they half a million dollars in two elections they won the first election two years later we defeated them everybody else got next life but not us we paid 80 times more per service because I live in a trailer and they're bribing a direct TV and Comcast for bribing the regional but it's big they lied to us they said contract ran out in January and we should get it no, no, I changed my mind I decided no, we'll steal it for a few more years and we paid twice as much money for 140 of the service so everybody else gets 80 times more of internet service than we did for school in the trailer I don't know thank you Strudler Ethan he was there with you did she heal? Mayor of Rivers County City staff I want to thank you again for a little bit more of your time I promise to stop you today I said it yesterday I'm going to say it again I will probably say it again tomorrow the price of housing is too damn high this is the choice that we collectively make we make it every day we have big decisions and actions big and small what permitting office says how the council responds to residents what opinions about the global environment rules and put out the books what can we vote those choices all have a reaction out to them sometimes bad but the most important thing we do in order to bring down the cost of housing is to examine those choices and revisit the ones that could be improved Broad public support from the diverse group were reexamining those choices and making better homes. Some of us are here today, but I promise you there aren't many, many more of us. I say this as someone who's part of a generation filled with anxiety while the future holds for us and who desperately wanna set down the roots in a community that's even afford to live in. I also say that as someone who deeply loves the city and wants it to be the best version of itself that it can be, both for those people who made it what it is today, but also for the people who have been on this year for around 100 years. I wanna thank everyone on the road who committed this year for revisiting these choices on the land development code and the transportation code and a number of other areas. And for the commitment to turn the corner on the cost of housing, it's gonna be very exciting to work with you this year to make the city the best version of it. Thank you. Thank you, Shukio. Trisha, my name is Trisha. I just wanted to really crack home two points that are important to me. One of them is the pedestrian friendly nature of the world as well as housing. First of all, I know that the division's real estate is one of the very important to council. And first I wanna thank you and the engineering department for installing the crosswalk, the lighted crosswalk app I'll review and deal with. However, as a blind person, I have to travel independently on my own. So I know that all of the hazards, even in downtown, there are many, many intersections where there's no paint, no signs, nothing, and people just tear through there. So every day I go downtown, I feel like I'm taking my life with my own hands. And I just, I really have a vision for long long as a pedestrian first community. And so I just really, I don't have the importance of that because it isn't just good for me, it's good for anyone. So any particular, I'm helpful with the flashing lights because they're up at a viewpoint where the drivers can see. So that's what I wanted to say. For a second of all, housing. While my house is thriving, musician and artist community, and it breaks my heart that it's so difficult for people who are the creative life of this community to not be able to work housing. So I would just wanna encourage you to look at any ordinances, land use plans, something that will provide good solutions to make that housing affordable for everyone, which is really a basic care, right? Thank you. Thank you very much, Trish. Josie. Hi, everyone. I am also concerned about housing. And I think it's open, a big impact would benefit long long and from the revenue generated from it, you'll be able to build even more of the kind of community housing. I was doing research on this and some of them may think that it would be an incomeable, their family would be about $38,000 a year. It's not able to go to work to rent because the cheapest studio apartment there because there's a apartment that would be $5,000 a floor that is only an income just being considered a rent over there. I also saw that they'd be out of this morning have 45 vacancies in the individual apartments which is up to 11% of their total units, which is kind of unacceptable, like that's not the price that I'd market if it was, those would be filled. And they're not the revenue increase. Well, I think, thank you for listening. Thank you so much. Steve. Steph. Steph. Steph. Thank you. Well, city council, I appreciate so much of our richness that it's meant to pass over years and improving my capability. But as someone who writes a record on account as a primary need, means of transport, I feel like there's still some work to be done. Sometimes like I was getting downtown by a third and taking the bike lane, the bike lane abruptly stopped and stuff, that sunset, third sunset's also a pretty scary intersection for cyclists for other reasons. People who cannot or do not want to drive a car shouldn't be treated as second class citizens. And I shouldn't feel punished for doing the right thing and I'm not contributing another part of traffic. So I appreciate the focus on mobility and multi-mobile transport and walkability. More housing option and walking distance to businesses for use in cultural amenities would contribute a lot. Please make walking and biking a first-class experience in Long Island. Audrey, I have a question. Thank you, council members, city staff, mayor. I think we need to start building more affordable, sustainable housing that is also multi-generational here in Long Island. Several years ago, I was traveling to Oregon, and that's the one named George who was from Greece. We fell into a conversation and he was telling me about his house there. It's a multi-generational, three-story house. It's been in his name for over a hundred years. George's parents lived on the first floor and George and his wife lived on the second floor and his adult daughter and her small family lived on the third and final floor. When George's parents passed and his generation did before them, everyone looked before them. This was a great way to answer them because the older generation could age in place with family members nearby to take care of them. The younger generation, then the wisdom and the experience of their older family members, is better for the environment than using a much smaller footprint of a single family home. And it helps you create a generational well. We need to start building affordable and sustainable housing in Long Island and some of it needs to be multi-generational. Multi-generational, all of it needs to be walkable and bicycle friendly to the greater public transportation options. Thank you. Thank you, Audrey. Paul Atterson. Hi, Paul Atterson. I believe that we need to build more housing in Long Island. In order to achieve this, zoning laws should be liberalized to allow for more construction, apartment buildings, simple complexes and townhouses in the city. Minuit apartment apartments should also be reduced to a more limited entirety. Population in Colorado over the last 15% of the last census period. Every city in the state has an obligation to grow their houses to accommodate our new neighbors. If we fail to do this, Colorado will look more and more like California, where homeownerships completely out of reach for vast swaths of the population and low income people are displaced to their homes and even their state by the thousands. If we act decisively, however, we can ensure that Long Island remains a stable and welcoming community for people with all their loved ones. Thank you. Thank you, Paul. Taylor Richland, who had to leave, but he gave his statement to Santa Cedar, who will read it. Hey, now I'm trying to read it. Hey, Taylor, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There's no more short place. I came here to encourage them to reform by encouraging them to execute in all of the same neighborhoods. This can help increase density, be ahead of the city finances and increase social potential by providing a third place within every neighborhood. That's how you make sure you style neighborhoods and increases walkability, reduces traffic congestion, ultimately increases our impact on the environment, reducing emissions, and preserving communities. Let us realize a city that is an organic living organism and contrary to the envision why not take these places of stability every neighborhood deserves the ability deserves the ability to have space and assess these women walking distance. Whether or not only comes with doctors off the small version of a farm to be a gatherer's space, but. The neighborhood dream is, let the neighborhood dream what they can to enhance our living and reform the different setbacks, locked in original sizes, encouraged our maximums allow a lot of immersion to densify existing neighborhoods while encouraging infant development on the same level. Thank you. Taylor? No. So I think all of those comments actually put a final okay on what we've been doing for the past few days, because that's exactly what we've been addressing. So we're gonna wrap this up, and Earl's gonna wrap it up for us with what he heard today. And then we'll do a real quick evaluation of what worked for folks and what they've achieved for them. So I think it is a good wrap up, what we heard when we started with how do we look at our goals and the households in the staffs collectively and what it was like. I don't know what that is, and I can't get it to stop. Stop, stop it. Is it a skate? Really? I was just trying to get a full screen. So as we were working through this yesterday, it's been a lot of time talking about what we were dealing with internally as staff and we talked about the importance of core services. And then you all, as we started moving through the discussion, said equity, sustainability, and safety are things that we have to incorporate within the DNA of the organization. So for me, Valerie is putting this together in real time as we're going, that's the foundation of the house. And in your houses, all this is strong in your foundation. And then you all added the walls of housing for all early childhood, care and education and transportation.  And so in overwriting all of this is how we're working in climate action and what we're dealing with. So this was our visual representation of what you all talked about. And I wanted to just affirm that what you all was saying. Is this what you all were saying? And I'm not going to go over the details that you have, you just finished this, but this is the agreement that we're coming to as a collective to say this is what we're going to work on over the next year. What's going on later? I like the visual there. Thank you, good work. It's easy. It's great having all these folks. You see us all chatting and moving. We're reacting to what you are saying and building different components up. Real time, as you would say. Real time. I mean, it's real time. So I just want to say thanks to you. Thanks all the staff that have been here for two days. I will say in my 20 plus years of this profession and going through it, this is probably the first time that it really has been for me at Gold Setting Session where it is it's really just the life of working for this. And I want to thank you for your understanding of the core services and the challenges that we're facing in today's world and the staff of what we're doing. I think we have a really, you know, highlights of our future. Oh, you're being cheesy. You're the one that's really like this. Yeah, which for us, what that does is it gives us something manageable that we can wrap our arms around and we can really start driving forward through the base. And I just think as we continue to move forward as things are coming forward, my commitment is as things come forward from a staff perspective, if it's not in this arena, I will be managing that. As we see things come forward that could distract from this, I think we have to collectively manage that because we can very quickly spin out and not be able to focus on anything like this. So if we take that graph again, blow it up and post it in council chambers. So every time a scroll comes along or whatever, just rub it away and say, where does, how does it contribute to building out this house which is supporting it or, you know, growing our impact on, or reducing our impact on the planet? So I just can also ask where will this PowerPoint and information be? Will we present it to the general public as well? That's a great question. So first off, Morican has already changed your vision to events on the city council webpage. Oh wow. So those are already in place right now. I believe the next step is for Harold to bring back a more complete goal and metric documents back out to you all. All of these materials, we could certainly post it back out. Is that correct on the Athens? It's on page. It's not on it. But all these materials could be Athens, something all the time. They go into the conference room. They're going to be there after that. I don't know. Except the giant poster that we will make sure that we put into that. Eric is sending you all my presentation. Just if you're ever asked, you can see sort of how we work through Friday's conversation because I think that's important information for you all. So that people are asking you to do things. You can all refer to that and say here's what's going on. I understand that it's going to go into the other guys, but I think they're recording maybe even a couple of weeks it would be harmful to have on some sort of link in that. They're just because then people can access it and you can come to discussion points. They come out and talk to us, counsel that he's a finding it. So we've got him. Certainly one of the things that I think I heard was communication stuff for you all to ask. Now you can either hand out to residents or that you can have in your batch function that really remind you of today and work on that as well. And that's a reformatting with us internally. So I've already talked to it. This is shifting our communication plan as we're looking at this and what you want to do. So here I'm really good to do, but I want you to continue that when you have to pivot for many of our pillars or please let us know so that we can also appeal that to our residents then. Certainly. This is a brand new order for these residents. I think having called in disruptors, I think having a conversation on real, again, as disruptors are occurring, we're having that conversation to say, here's this disruptor, here's what's done. I think certainly what I recognize is that we didn't provide particularly great, hey, here's what's happening to each of these months or there were some sort of reforms that we can follow up with that effect. What's going back to the, since eventually, how did you take this to stand for you? She said she wanted a donut. I would be happy to take it. Thank you, sir. Yes. Marcia? Well, this is such a great visual. If esteem is a kind of a code word at this point, if we change that to public amenities or even the third place, we should have posted all around the city. It's not just inside of council. We'll kick the start of communications group. So they can work with the graphics system again. That already moving fast. I swear we did that house. I hope you do. I'm sorry, it makes sense to make those teams so that it makes sense to give them. Okay, so we're doing an evaluation. So you're at the end. What are things that worked well and things that you'd like to see different for next? The only thing that I can see is this, this group is absolutely great. But in my classroom, I have this little microphone that goes around my neck in a lanyard form. So I don't have to speak up. And it's really, really handy because I just can click it on and click it off and that sort of thing. And so now I don't have a teacher voice anymore. Like some may have, because of the fact that I don't have to have that. And this is, that would be so useful for this group in the first place and everything, and then they have a microphone and it's an outfit that does this. I can see when I get back to my classroom, if I consider it to be, it's really slick. Yeah, thank you, okay. It's just one of the things I do. I'd say you were well prepared. You did a nice job getting ready. I don't know if I've said this before. I've never been in sessions like this. Are you better at this or what do you do? So I appreciate that. And I appreciate the fact that you two teamed up to adjust and adapt in real time as the conversation goes. And then all the presentations from the staff. There was a lot of acting. Tracy, food was great. Yeah, food was great. Food was great. I would like to stop and get around and applaud for Erica. Erica's first retreat, I think she did. And she was managing me in the process. Oh, that's great. Yeah, that's great. What else? I thought that we, as a council, interacted with staff very well with each other. And I think this was probably the reason I got into the vest. Kudos to staff. And to you. Well, George, you did the salad. How did you work? I don't know about anyone else, but I did like it two days. Yeah. I was about to say, this was a really good place. And I can't go home. I'm not going to go home today. I was going to say an arrow to address this issue. Everybody around the table, I wish we could have a bigger table because we have a lot of people in the back that are really contributing to every great house and stopping by to see someone. So if there's someone to do more of that in the future, a bigger rounder table because having you guys across facing us was great. I agree with my vote. I have your issues. Your work comes in this part. Thank you. You're ready to adjourn. I don't think you have to vote. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.