Chapter 17 of Pussy Blackface, The Story of a Kitten and Her Friends. This is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the public domain. For more information or to volunteer, please visit LibriVox.org. Pussy Blackface, The Story of a Kitten and Her Friends by Marshall Saunders. Chapter 17, The Mischievous Guinea Hen. After dinner, Della and Mary went out on the front veranda, and after Mrs. Gleason had given me something to eat, I trotted after them. There were two hammocks on the veranda, and Mary was swinging in one, and Della in the other. How old are you? The farmer's little girl was asking as I arrived. 12, said Mary, and I'm 13, returned Della. I'm going to tell you a secret, just between you and me. And Pussy there, she added, looking down at me as I walked under her hammock. Very well, said Mary excitedly. What is it? You're going to be my second best friend. I've got a best one, but I guess I can pass her on to another girl. Then I'll have you for the first best. That's lovely, said Mary. I'll be true to you, and you'll be true to me. We'll have to write our names in gore. murmur Della in a blood-curdling voice. In gore, repeated Mary. Who's gore? Yours and mine. You take a pin and scratch your arm.   We never do that in Boston, said Mary in dismay. And I wouldn't scratch anybody's arm with a pin for the world. Why, you might get a germ in it. What's that? inquired Della. A germ is a microbe, I think, replied Mary. And what's a microbe? I fancy it's a bacillus. And what's a bacillus? I don't know, said Mary, frankly. Only it's something that might give you scarlet favor or smallpox or diphtheria or measles or lots of diseases. No, Della, you must never scratch yourself with a pin.  That kills the disease germs.   Of course, there are little healthy germs in us, pursued Mary, that fight the unhealthy ones.  Is that why I feel so queer sometimes inside of me? continued Della. I don't know. I dare say it is, replied Mary. I hear Mama and Papa talking about these things. Della looked thoughtful, but made no answer as she was watching a man drive into the yard. After jumping from his wagon, he lifted out a box and put it on the back doorstep. That's Bill Seaforth, said Della. He wants to see Daddy, I guess, and she sprang out of the hammock and ran to the kitchen door. Mary and I followed more slowly. Hello, Mr. Seaforth, said Della, how are you? Oh, I'm whipping the cat, he said easily. How's all your care, whipping the cat? I repeated in a shocked voice to Aunt Tabby, who was sitting on the doorstep. What does he mean? It's just a country expression, she said. He's always saying something queer. But it was Della who was saying the queer thing now. We're all stepping along, she said cheerfully. I could not help smiling. It sounded like tight shoes. Is your paw above ground? Pursued the man. No, he's in the barn cellar, said Della. Bed in the pigs. I'll resurrect him, said Mr. Seaforth. He owes me two dollars for them two hawk guards. Oh, the guinea hens, said the sharp young Della, who seemed to know all her father's business. Do you suppose, Bill Seaforth, that they'll actually scare the hawks? Well, if we ain't all black liars up on the little purple hill, they do, drawn the man. Dino says it's all bosh, remarked Della. However, I'll tell Paw. The man did not see him at all offended with her, and she hurried to the barn. In a few minutes Mr. Gleason appeared, and seizing the box and followed by the man. He made his way to the hen house. Mary, who was delighted with this new happening, followed closely behind, and I kept at the heels of her pretty Boston shoes. Della wore brass-toed ones. Arrived at the hen house, the farmer called us all in, closed the door, and let the guinea hens out. Mary was convulsed with amusement.  They looked as if they had little gray shawls on, said Mary.  Ain't as brainy as hens, said the man who had brought them, and they wonder, powerful, you'll have to keep them in limbo for a while. They all stood for a long time watching the guinea hens. I used to marvel at the amount of time everybody had in the country. Nobody hurried, and yet they worked for a longer time each day than the people in Boston. Finally, the man got his two dollars and went away, and Mary, Della, and I went back to the hammocks. Serena was very much interested in my account of the guinea hens. She wasn't going out much those days. She kept indoors. Except at night when she took a little walk all about the barn. This particular evening she stole up to the hen house to see the guinea hens, and when the time came for them to be out, as they had become wanted to the place, she used to lie under a clump of roast bushes and watch them. Their actions interested her very much. They trotted all around the house, the barn, and the carriage house, only stopping occasionally to eat. Their humbugs said Serena. I've seen a swift hawk take two chickens today when the guinea hens were only a few feet away from him. They never opened their beaks, and he wasn't a bit afraid of them. There he is coming back. Meow, meow, I said loudly, and I ran toward Mary who had thrown herself on the grass at the side of the house and was reading a book. She looked up. The bird soaring overhead appeared in the distance like one of Della's blue homing pigeons that nested in the loft of the carriage house. When it came near, we saw it was larger than a pigeon. Like a bullet it dropped over and on suspecting mother hen seized one of her baby chickens and bore the dear little thing up in the air with its legs dangling helplessly. Mary burst into tears and tried to find Della.  You just lie down here beside me, sister, and watch. You have seen one of their sins of omission. Now find out one of commission. I didn't know what she meant, but I crouched down beside her. She was much nicer to me since the downfall of her pride, and I really enjoyed being with her. Now she went on. Keep your eyes on the smaller of those old maids. I always laughed when she called the guinea hens the old maids, for with their little primways and gray tippet-like feathers, they certainly did look like bachelor hen girls. Just see how one of those little wretches is persecuting that lovely big rooster, said Serena viciously. I could not help smiling. Dear Serena, I said, it is impossible that that small hen should worry that huge wine-dot. You just observe, she said decidedly, and I did observe. The hen, apparently trotting aimlessly, round the backyard and the woodhouse, and the young orchard, was really all the time in pursuit of the wine-dot. The rooster kept so far ahead that no one but ourselves suspected the mischief she was doing. I've watched her for two days, said Serena. She just trots after him. It makes him nervous, and he keeps going. Sometimes he gets so exhausted that he lies down.  What makes her do it? I asked of my wise sister. I don't know, she said in a puzzled voice. Just mischief, I fancy. Why doesn't he stop and beat her? I went on. He could do it in a minute. She has got more brains than he has, said Serena.  She is his master. I'd like to punish her, I said angrily. I love that big wine-dot. He is so noble and generous about the hens. He hasn't talked to them for two days, said Serena. I too like to hear him say, Come, girls, as he let them down to the meadow for worms. I can tell you how to get ahead of her. Blackface, if you will. I do it myself. Only I don't want to attract attention. How? I asked eagerly. Get up and travel after her, till someone notices you. If you take to chasing, you'll be remarked. My blood was boiling at the meanness of the guinea hen. Why didn't she go play with her sister instead of chasing the poor wine-dot? So I gladly adopted Serena's suggestion and started in pursuit of the little miscreant keeping about three feet behind her. She didn't like it and kept looking over her shoulder. But I didn't care. I kept on trotting, but I got terribly tired. For we went for an hour before anyone but Serena noticed us. My sister lay under the bushes, encouraging me by kind glances whenever we went near her. But the poor wine-dot, in his despair, led us a dance all over the place and we seldom got near the rose bushes. Strange to say, the first one to notice us was Mr. Denville. Like most men brought up in the country, he was a very shrewd observer. About the middle of the afternoon he came out of the house to get a drink from the old well, where he said a moss-covered bucket had hung when he was a lad on the farm. There was a fine pump in the kitchen now, but he always came for his drinks to the well that he had had cleaned out and equipped with a sanitary drinking fountain. After he had satisfied his thirst, his eyes roamed over the meadows and the pasture and the hills in the distance, all of which were visible from the high land at the back of the house. I saw his lips form the word beautiful. The wine-dot was just sprinting down the barn to the chipyard. Mr. Denville barely noticed the three of us as we tailed by, but when, after leading us round the house and the old orchard back to the side door, the wine-dot made again for the well, Mr. Denville gave us a puzzled glance. I threw him an appeal over my shoulder as we went traveling up to the spring where the trout lived. It was not a very hot day, but there is no fun in running when you don't want to, and I was getting tired. Mr. Denville took the hint and followed us. When we got back of the barn, the wine-dot flopped and lay with his beak open and his eyes shut. Ginny stood patiently watching him. I hissed at her, but she didn't care. Just as the poor rooster was rousing himself, preparatory to a fresh start, Mr. Denville arrived on the scene. When we started again, he joined us, and calling to Mary and Della, he had them come too. Serena hasn't much sense of humor, but I could see she was nearly killing herself laughing under the rose bushes. Della understood almost as quickly as Mr. Denville had done. Mary was mystified. Della and Mr. Denville put their heads together, and soon the chase was over. Ginny was caught and held firmly. While Della went to rummage in her mother's work basket, Mr. Denville took the empty spool and made a little clog. This he fastened to Ginny's leg. Then he set her down. The poor rooster, who was thankfully reposing under a tree, started up as soon as he saw her coming, but she did not pursue. Every step she took, the little clog flapped against her leg. She would stop to look at it and the rooster would stop to see why she wasn't coming.  She was so boisterous in her mirth that soon she had all the family out in the backyard. The men were coming home from work, and I think Ginny was well paid for her unkindness. Everybody made fun of her, and finally she slunk away very quietly and climbed to the top of an apple tree. There is a wild streak in Ginny Hinn's, and they hate Hinn houses. Della petted the rooster and gave him a special supper from the farm table. Next day he came out of the Hinn house refreshed from a good night's sleep and let his girls gaily down to the meadow. His head was up. He stepped high. Ginny was so taken up with her clog that she never noticed him. She had something to do now that kept her active mind out of mischief and later on when I got acquainted with her I found she was quite a nice sort of a creature as vowels go. There is good in every created thing even mischief Ginny Hinn's. End of chapter 17 Chapter 18 of Pussy Blackface The Story of a Kitten and Her Friends This is a Libra Box recording. All Libra Box recordings are in the public domain. For more information or to volunteer please visit LibraBox.org. Pussy Blackface The Story of a Kitten and Her Friends by Marshall Saunders Chapter 18 The Owl and the Chickens Serena liked me to go with her when she took her walks about the farm at night. At first I was flattered at her preference for me. Then I was interested and finally I was responsive. Serena was really getting fond of me and she was becoming unselfish and companionable. She knew that I admired her and she was so clever that when she said about trying to make me love her she succeeded easily. We're sisters, she said gently we ought to be great friends. Chums, I said. Chums, if you like. She responded graciously. The older I grow the more I recognize the tie of blood between relatives and you are really quite nice looking at times. Blackface.  Thank you, I replied. The tongue can dress things down much better than damp paws. Serena attended to my toilet beautifully. That was last night. Then we sallied forth for a moonlight walk. It was a beautiful night. There were a few other cats about but we stepped into the bushes till they passed by. We saw a weasel down near the river smelled a skunk listened to the deep breathing of the young cattle and the horses sleeping out in the pasture and saw with regret that the lovely white woolly sheep had broken into the meadow. We can't do anything about it said Serena. The farmer will turn them out in the morning meantime they're having a fine feed of rich meadow grass and they won't get whipped for it. No farmer Gleason never whips anything, I said. I wish he owned all the dogs and cats and horses in the world. What is that? said Serena excitedly. As we came up the sloping road leading from the meadow to the barn I looked at the top of the carriage house. There, perched on the ridge pole where the pigeons love to sit in the daytime it was a funny square looking creature that never moved. Is it a bird? I asked. I think from what I've heard. Said Serena that is a big owl. Keep close to the fence sister. If he sees our fur he may sees us. Tabby says Joker was nearly caught once by a big owl. Oh! And Serena gave a gasp. With her native caution as soon as she saw the owl she had led me under the snake fence. Fortunately a few poles had fallen out and had made a rough shelter under which we crept. I hadn't turned my eyes from the owl but for a second when I felt something strike the poles above us and saw the flash of two balls of fire which were eyes. Then I lay gasping with fright. He struck me moaned Serena with claws. They felt red hot. Oh! The wicked creature! I whispered. Then my conscience pricked me. I had just been looking for a nice, sweet little meadow mouse down by the river. Serena, who never ate mice, was following the workings of my mind. My back smarts terribly where he ripped it. She sighed I am very sorry for every creature that suffers. Wait till we get out of this. I said comfortingly I will give your back a good licking. Thank you, she murmured. Then she said, Alas poor beauty. Why did you say that? I asked. Beauty and her chickens are sleeping in that apple tree tonight. Said Serena, nodding toward the young orchard. She wouldn't go in the hen house. And Della laughed at her and said she could sleep out. Every chick skipped up the branches after her. That wretch chickens move about in their sleep sometimes. The way human babies nestle. Mona is sleeping up by the barn door tonight. I said, she likes to be there because it is high. And she can see all over the farm. I wish she were here. She can't fly, said Serena. No, but she could bark and rouse the farmer. I'm going to call her. And I mute loudly. Mona, Mona the good old dog, who does not sleep as soundly as when she was young heard me and came running to us. I soon told her the trouble. The owl, of course, knew all about it. But he was a very bold fellow and evidently scorned us all. While Mona was staring and sniffing the air in his direction, the great creature made another swoop. Not a sound was audible. Owls are very sneaky creatures. He hovered over the apple tree nearest the carriage house. There was a loud cackle from beauty and a sputtering from the chickens. We could hear some of them fluttering to the ground. Mona bounded away. She can't fly, I said. But that owl will be smart if he gets any of the chickens while they are near her on the ground. The owl knew better than to descend too low. But the bold fellow made one more dash at the apple tree. More chickens cried and flounced wildly about in the darkness. Mona just yelled with rage. And in a jiffy, Barlow was leaving and barking beside her. Mr. Gleason was at the window sending up a rocket that made Mr. Owl vanish like a ghost. I laughed the most delicious cat laugh that I ever enjoyed. I just fancied that owl's astonishment when the rocket was flying through the air in his direction. I don't think he will ever come back to the farm. Let him hunt mice and vermin in the meadow, said Serena, and leave our chickens alone. Part of the family was at the windows. The rest was out of doors. Serena and I advanced to the side of Mr. Dinville. He ran his hand over my back. Then over Serena's. This cat is bleeding, he said. And some of the chickens are gone, said Mr. Gleason. Look at these feathers. He whirled his lantern round under the trees where the moonbeams did not penetrate and showed what he had picked up. There isn't one gone, said Mona to me. When the owl flew away, he carried nothing with him. Count your chickens, said Mr. Dinville. Can't, said the farmer. They're scattered. Do you find any large feathers? Yes, Mr. Dinville. No, said the farmer. Not one. I guess you're right. Morning will tell. Anyway, Mona and Barlow will keep the old fellow from making any more visits. Morning did tell the same story. The owl had pulled a number of feathers out of the chickens. But he had not got one of the little creatures. They were wiser chickens after that. And beauty was a wiser mother. One night we saw her going to bed nice and early in the hen house with her fine brood behind her. She told Serena that it was a dreadful thing for a mother hen to lead her chickens into such danger. And she said that they suffered more during the night when they crouched in the grass and behind the wood pile and under the veranda than when the owl was attacking them. They were a scattered family. Beauty was a very young hen. Everybody called her old. But she really had not had much experience in bringing up chickens. End of Chapter 18 Chapter 19 of Pussy Blackface The Story of a Kitten and Her Friends This is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer. Please visit LibriVox.org Pussy Blackface The Story of a Kitten and Her Friends by Marshall Saunders Chapter 19 The Close of the Summer I am ashamed to say that weeks and weeks have gone by since I have sat down at night and had a good think over things that are going on about me. I have been happy and busy. All day long something was happening on the farm to keep us interested. And nearly every night Serena and I run about and play till we were so tired that we just tumbled into our nice beds. It seems impossible to think that the summer is about gone. Why? Aunt Tabby? I said to her just now. Surely it was only yesterday that I asked you by Farmer Gleeson made nice little beds for the seeds to go to sleep and then kept fussing with them till I was sure he would wake them up. Aunt Tabby smiled.  Now you know something about grubs and worms. And the constant care a farmer has to put forth to keep his crops from being eaten up. The hang was beautiful. I murmured. I wish the sweet smelling days could come again.  He is glad when the hang is over. It was pitiful to hear him sneezing when the men were unloading the hay carts. I admire a thumby. I said warmly. He is a brave cat not to desert his post when it becomes unpleasant. He is all right in winter said Aunt Tabby. He is out a great deal. And then when he is cold he sits on a cow's back. Bessie is his friend, isn't she? I said. Yes. The Jersey. She loves thumby. Here comes Joker. I said as he walked down from the barn and sat beside us. I said nothing allowed. But I thought to myself how much Joker has improved since we came to the farm. Aunt Tabby says it is because he has been much with Serena and me. Endless with the untrained blizzard and the slippery rosy. I think he is better because Sly Boots gave him such a beating for taunting poor Serena, however. I don't like to say this to Aunt Tabby. These country cats all stand by each other. I've got some news for you, said Joker to me. I'm afraid you're soon going away. From the farm I said in dismay. Yes. I just heard Farmer Gleason tell one of the men that soon you'll be going back to Boston. Why? The summer has passed like a dream. I said perhaps you'll come back next summer. Said Aunt Tabby. Oh, I hope so. I said I just love this place. Sly Boots is a lot better for her visit. Said Aunt Tabby. Her eyes look quite strong now. She strained them trying to see mice and rats in the Boston streets when she was cold and hungry. I said she was all run down. We are just like human beings in that way. Said Aunt Tabby. If we're not properly fed and housed all our bodily functions suffer. What's a function? Asked Joker slyly. You're trying to talk Bostonese like Serena. Aunt Tabby thoughtfully licked her paw and said nothing. Where is Serena? Asked Joker looking around. On the upper of her end I said she never got over that mole hunt. She went on. A cat that never has trouble doesn't amount to much. Said Aunt Tabby. You know that, Joker. He hung his head. Then his eyes twinkled. And he looked at me. We ought to wave blackface before she goes back to the city. She's gained about three pounds since she came. I gave a little sigh. My appetite is my weak point. I've never tasted such bread and butter in Boston. Nor such savory meat. Put a rain on your appetite, blackface. Said Joker. Or you'll have kittens scout. There are the denvils coming up from the meadow. Said Aunt Tabby. And little Mary with them. All as brown as berries. Said Joker. That child ought to live in the country. There was certainly an immense change in our dear little Mary. Her parents came up the hill. Went to the barn. Then began to descend the slope to the carriage house. Little Mary left her parents and ran ahead. Actually ran. A thing I had never seen her do before. Though she could walk very fast. I saw Mrs. Denville stop and snatch at her husband's arm as if she were going to fall. One hand pointed to Mary. Her lips were moving. We cats knew that she was saying my little girl can run. She is stronger than when she came. What wonders the country has done for her. You'll come next summer fast enough. Said Aunt Tabby. Oh, I wish we could stay till apple picking. I said. Casting a glance at the old orchard where each tree was a perfect sight with its load of red fruit. You might be cold. Said Aunt Tabby cautiously. Here in Maine cool winds sometimes blow and the farmers get their fingers nipped while they are picking the apples. Often Mrs. Gleeson sends out hot drinks to the orchard to keep them in warm while they are up on the letters at work. Well, we have had a lovely summer. I said. We shall have very pleasant things to think over during the long winter. I like that picnic down by the river about as well as anything. Said Joker licking his lips. I've often heard folks talk about picnics, but they always went so far off that cats couldn't go. Now, when Farmer Gleeson had that one right here at home after hanging and had all the men who helped him with their families I thought it was fine. I liked the big evening party. I said. When people drove in from miles around and they had speeches and singing. And I liked the school children's parade on the 4th of July, said Aunt Tabby when they all marched up from the school house with banners and had that play acting on the front lawn and the feast afterwards and nobody got hurt at fireworks. It was all good. I said. All this last part of the visit has been lovely. I think it must be easier to have happy times in a country than in Boston. Aunt Tabby smiled. You are young, blackface. When you are older, you will know that whether you are happy or unhappy depends on the kind of cat you are. Before I could answer her sly boots came trotting up. She seemed unusually excited for her. What's this? I hear about going back to Boston. She said. We told her what we had heard and I said. Oh, she shuddered as she said.  Do you want to stay here? Asked Joker. Wouldn't be square, she said firmly. I'm the Denville's cat and I've got to stick it out with him. They'll always be good to you, said Aunt Tabby. You can trust those people. Sly boots looked at me. Is Serena going to live with us? She said. I suppose so, I replied in surprise. I never asked her. You just go find out, she said. I guess she'll jar you. I fled upstairs to the veranda.   Go warn Mona. I flew downstairs. There was great talk on the farm about the birds of the Saint Bernard whereas we cats told her when the hawk was coming and the birds told us. As I ran up to the barn I threw swift glances about me. The little birds knew wild sparrows, swallows, gold finches, purple finches, robins, and ever so many other birds were all flying toward the west. The pigeons saw them and they were high up as they could round and round the carriage house so the hawk could not drop on them from above. The hens didn't know yet for beauty and her brood were following Bobby, the tame pig, up and down the young orchard where he was rooting up worms. He wouldn't let any other hen and chickens get near him. Mona, Mona. I mewed as I ran to the barn floor. Hawk, hawk. Mona opened her grey jaws and bellowed. Bow, wow. As she ran from the barn to the house and then to the orchard every creature understood her warning note and she was not the only enemy the hawk had. There was a furious scolding and chattering from the pine trees beyond the orchard where a pair of crows had had a nest during the summer. They had seen the hawk and they worried him till he passed by the front door of their nest where the young ones used to be. He had a hard flight that morning by the time he reached the farm every chicken was hiding under bushes or in the buckwheat or under the veranda or on the wood pile and a pair of kingbirds were nearly driving him crazy. Aunt Tabby had explained to me when I first came to the farm about these brave little birds who are never frightened of a hawk and who do no harm though they are often accused of eating too many bees. Aunt Tabby who has watched them closely says they kill a thousand nauseous insects for every bee they eat. Mr. Hawk flew away to the westward but the little frightened birds were all scurrying ahead of him and he would not be able to do much damage in that direction as soon as I saw the last beat of his powerful wings. I ran back to Serena. Oh, sister, I said. Have you heard that we are soon going back to Boston? She turned her handsome eyes on me. No, but I imagined the subject would soon be under discussion. And are you going to live with the Denvils? I blurted out. She smiled half sadly. No, blackface. I'm going back to our parents. Oh, Serena, I said, I am much disappointed. That is nice in you, blackface. But I must do my duty. Our father and mother have missed me. And in thinking things over lately, I know I did wrong to leave them. I was so surprised that I did not say anything for a long time. Then I murmured, you will come to see us sometimes. Oh, yes, said Serena brightly. We are close by. Serena, I said, are you going back home because you want to? Or because you ought to? The latter first. But I'll make it the former. Before I'm done with it, she said with a laugh. End of chapter 19 Chapter 20 of Pussy Blackface The Story of a Kitten and Her Friends This is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the public domain. For more information or to volunteer, please visit LibriVox.org. Pussy Blackface The Story of a Kitten and Her Friends by Marshall Sounders Chapter 20 In the City Again Weeks more have passed and now we're in the city. Life is so quiet and happy that I don't seem to have much to think over. We eat, sleep, have a good time, and looking out the window at the snow and ice pity the poor cats who have no comfortable homes. That is our only trouble, sly boots and mine. She stood the journey back to the city remarkably well and as the day goes by we've become firmer friends than ever. I even proposed a while ago to have her sleep in my bed but she said, Blackface, you want half grown up. Us cats want our own bed and our own food dish. If you eat too much or you'll fight, we are better friends apart. Mona laughed when I told her this and said there was much truth in it. She and Dali are both well and enjoy long walks every day with Mr. and Mrs. Denville. Mona says it is all nonsense to say a dog cannot be kept healthy in a city. Good food and plenty of exercise will keep animals in condition anywhere. Unless the air is poisonous and air is as good as any air. Little Mary is much brighter and better for her visit to the country and your parents are planning to take her to the country again quite early next spring. Mr. Denville is going to have a furnace put into the farmhouse so they won't feel the cold. Just now Mary and her mother are very busy getting a Christmas box ready for the farm. Dela and the boys almost broke their hearts when little Mary left them in sleigh boots and I are lost in admiration of the beautiful and useful presents that are going into the box for those children. With all their care for the human beings, for the Denville's do much for the poor children in Boston, they do not forget the animals. The animal refuge where I was taken when I was a lost pussy is to have a joyous Christmas. Mary is going to help decorate a Christmas tree for the cats and the dogs are to have some new drinking fountains and a sum of money which will go to the rescue of suffering creatures who would otherwise perish in the streets. Mrs. Denville says that if boys and girls are kind to cats and dogs and other creatures they will be kinder to each other. She says we should all protect something weaker than ourselves. As I lie on my cushion on the window seat I watch the crowds hurrying across the common river. Suppose all the people were kind to each other. Suppose all the cats and dogs and sparrows and pigeons and squirrels on the common were well fed and happy.  Those people are not all kind. I can tell by their faces if I were a human being I would try to do something to make them smile on each other. I'm only a little cat with my boots and the dogs and the dear family in this house and in my parents house. Serena is the light of that home now. She is more beautiful than ever and more dignified. No one here knows of her troubles in the country and she is a leader in a cat society on the hill. My mother and father are so proud of her. She never tries them now by being affected or conceited. She says she doesn't want to go to the country again but she is glad that she won't this time. The Denvils had a great joke about when she left them for her old home. They did not understand. Many things in the cat world are hidden from human beings. We suffer and rejoice and scheme and plan pretty much as the higher order of creation does if only more people would take the trouble to study us. Serena says there is a whole book of cat psychology to open it and read aloud. But there is that all created things should work together from kings to earthworms. She says they were started to accomplish great things in unison but some wicked people threw things out of joint. She is preparing a lecture on the subject for the Beacon Hill and Gora Club. I am to have a ticket. I hope everybody in Boston is going to have a pleasant Christmas. That is a foolish wish Sly Booth says for everybody can't well then everybody that can just as many as possible. Someday I may have some more adventures to think about. Just now there's nothing to tell except that we haven't anything to tell and we're all very happy and wish the whole world were the same. The End End of Chapter 20 In The City Again End of Pussy Blackface by Vakitin and Her Friends by Marshall Sounders


It's positively brilliant. Yup, shawlam ain't the guy. Andrew Schultz.  Back for another motherfucking week. We don't have no pre-rolls of nothing, right? All right, let's get to it. Schultz, what did you see this week that you thought was positively brilliant?  I don't know if I can say it was brilliant. But Biden at the debate Okay, I think that the whole like right-wing smear on Biden, which is like he can't put a sentence together I know I've said these things. I think you've said these things We've all been concerned can this guy get a sentence out?  I think what that is it backfired on Republicans because our expectation was so low Or what he was gonna be able to do at the debate and then it came out and he like bummed his words a few times But like for the most part He looked very Presidential yeah, I'm not gonna lie, bro You say no compared to what you thought it was gonna be compared to the competition. He looked presidential Yeah, but we never expected presidential from from Trump. Yo, and real talk. I think the opposite of Trump I was thinking Trump was gonna go there and it was just gonna be a roast I thought he was gonna be running the dozens on him just every few seconds Son he had one joke the whole time. You're not smart, which is the dumbest joke But see Trump's demeanor is funny.  It's like you doing old material.   I was shocked. Why I was shocked I was shocked it about his strategy. It was Trump. Yeah, but like I Thought Trump would try to win over the middle, right? I thought he would try to win over the undecided like there's really I really thought that he would go for the middle go for the undecided, right? and so when they ask him To condemn white supremacy and I understand that people listening or watching this right now They're like right wing.  All right, but stand by he might need to get shot I don't know yet, but just stand back for a second So when you come out right and the people say in the past he's condemned white supremacy Like why does he have to do it again? It's like because you have to do it every time you're asked Every time you're asked what your tax plan is you don't go. I've told you it before you answer every question That you're asked at the debate Do you what as a human being at a certain point?  You said what have you done for black lives matter? sarcasm yeah Trump said in regards to shooting bleach in your arms. It's sarcasm You ran post below that at a rap community bro post below that tattoo in his forehead wearing ripped jeans He's like, um, I'm a rockstar now rockstar now. You don't want nothing to do with black people I gotta pay a tax every time Listen, I um, no, I'm really shocked. I was really shocked and everybody was like Surprised that a white supremacist didn't condemn white supremacist. I know you've been saying it for a minute I think there's a lot of people Like me right that are completely in the middle and not inspired by either candidate and waiting for some inspiration, right?   So but when you are when it's like your face with it so blatantly Right when he when the question is just like do you condemn white supremacy?  You might as well lie about that I'm this is just strictly brilliant idiot logic because I do believe Trump is a white supremacist, right, but I Can build a case that he's not Because if he was right, there'd be better communication between him and the KKK and the proud boys and whoever Mm-hmm, and the communication would have already been look No, I gotta say a few things in public that I don't me. Yeah, but wink wink, you know what I'm saying Yeah, and he went he could be able to go in there.  I Do think that he believes he needs white supremacist to win the election I can see that and Down Trump is a type of guy that anybody who supports him He has their back.  I want to come out, right if I if I actually think that he's gonna be Better for the economy than a Biden administration, which I do like I like I look at those two things I'm like, okay, that's probably better the second you can't condemn white supremacy or any supremacy Just all supremacy second. You can't condemn it.  Why couldn't you can well? He says something more wild that I don't think a lot of people would call on When they asked him about removing critical race theory from like federal employment agencies or whatever it is Like federal jobs they used to have to do this thing where they have to like learn about critical race theory Learn about racism and how to talk to people etc. And he removed it and they're like, why'd you remove it?   It's almost like Okay, it's almost like you're black now we can't have that So and nobody caught that I'm watching this like You gotta rewind people didn't catch the stand. Um to stand back stand by Me too when I heard it.  All right Um, I don't know.  This is interesting.     No, I missed that part. Oh god I totally missed that part, but no I hear what you're saying like what What I was talking to Robbie, right and is a buddy of mine work on his project with me And and he said this he goes I think Trump's goal Was not to appeal to the middle at all It was only base. It was a pill to his base and then it was to remove the far left from Biden Trump is trying to make Biden supporters stay home But specifically those far left far left black people like listen 4.4 million people who voted in 2016 I mean who voted in 2012 stayed home in 2016 a third of them were black Trump's strategy is to make them stay home. And that's what I keep telling Biden's team right people say, oh, well, you know There's not a lot of undecided voters left, which isn't true. It's 15% Okay, right, which could really change an election, right? But also even if there is a large group of people that already know I'm voting for Trump a large group of that No, I'm voting for Biden. What about the people who are going to stay home, right? You don't want to energize them. That's the you don't want to make them say, you know what?  Yeah, if you just apologize for it, that would never be a vulnerable spot for you Yeah, you remember when he said that his son was a cokehead When Trump said, yeah, yeah, I caught that one.  That was great. That was great I mean listen, by the way, no matter how you want to spend it Hunter Biden Did get an administrative discharge from the military because he failed a cocaine test. Mm-hmm. Did he have a substance abuse problem? I'm sure he did but you can't spin it Any sexy way, you know, the way no sexy spin to that but the way that Biden handled his Can I'm not conspiracy like big criticism about like a hunter taking money and hunter taking the position with the Ukraine I thought was really good like Trump is like what's up with 100 taken three and a half million dollars from the mayor of Russia What's up with him taking Chinese money? What's I'm taking the Ukraine money and Biden just goes none of that is true That's what Trump kept saying too, but it's brilliant none of that is true And now you're debating the veracity of something instead of responding and arguing about it. Like what a brilliant Yeah, he basically did the shaggy. It wasn't me It wasn't me like there wasn't me I Thought CNN was interesting after the why what is cnsa because they had a fact-checker and if you watched it last night Literally if you watched how they fact-checked when Trump Said something wrong The way the guy would respond was that is a lie That was a lie and then he would break down what it was right But when Biden got stuff wrong, which a lot of stuff Biden said was wrong. They'd be like Not quite. Mm-hmm. You know, no that bias. Yeah There was certain things it was a couple things Biden said that I knew he was like like when he said dr. Fats he said um Not to wear a mask and Trump was like dr. Fats said that you didn't have to wear a mask and Biden was like, that's not true That's why she absolutely started with that. I heard that with my own ears Yeah, you know what I'm saying even the fact that um, I thought the police was was was weird for for Biden Like he didn't take a stance on it at all. He was terrified. You know what I mean? Yeah Like when when Trump said to him, uh Are you law in order? Are you law in order? He wouldn't answer name one police union that that has endorsed you Biden didn't say nothing and he already said that, you know, is there was some bad apples and the police force whatever whatever that was That party handled well. He did but it was also an opportunity to draw a line in the sand to say well The reason I haven't been endorsed by any police unions is because what some of these police officers are doing is wrong And we have to correct that That right there gets the whole people that's on the ground in support of black lives matter that Wanted to fund the police that gets them the ones that are upset that you won't just say yes I wanted to fund the police. Yes, that energizes them Yeah, because it's a thing like oh yeah They haven't endorsed Joe Biden because Joe Biden has spoke out against the systemic racism that exists in the criminal justice system Yes, like stand on that. That's my that was my biggest issue with Joe Biden last night. What did he stand on? I Was surprised he stood for an hour and a half dog. I'll be on me too.  I went to the bathroom twice I was like, yo, they to almost 80. Oh, man I was in a half. That's impressive bro. What that's a movie Movie, I'm like, you know what diapers they had to wear diapers. I know they did Did you think that Chris Wallace did a good job? He did the best he could given the circumstance. Yeah, given the circumstance I think he did. He did the best he could I think Trump is being critical of him and acting as if he was biased I didn't think he was biased at all. I'm pretty objective, dude You know, but I thought that he wasn't I thought he like he defended both people and Accused both people and gave both sides equal opportunity to respond like I thought he did a really good job Despite them acting like children up there.  You know, my only critique of Chris Wallace And I didn't even think about it. I was asking we had a congressman said to Richmond on The breakfast club this morning, you know, he's Biden's coach here. I was just asking him like, um, what does that mean?   Should I be honest and tell people? All right, what is that?   And I just that was my only critique because if I was a moderator, you know But maybe I'm my perspective is different because I'm a black man my perspective like we need to have a lot more about race relations in this debate and this year 2020 come on personally, especially being at your as a VP of the first black president like you should have a lot to say About black issues.  I don't think Trump was at all I thought he what the reason why I think he was because he didn't even try to you know Come out to the middle and grab the middle and I think the middle is up for grabs He even try all you had to do is literally go get that already he grabbed the pussies in the first election He grabbed the middle I Just think like you literally all you got to do is say I condemn all forms of supremacy you just say it why Because that's the right thing to do Why do you expect Donald Trump to do the right thing?  Yeah Deep down in your gut even if you believe in some of his other policies that have nothing to do with race Yeah, just economically speaking or war you can't support someone who is openly Allowing racism you can you should I could I can't know even if I agree with everything else over the other guy That one thing how am I supposed to look at you every week?  I'm telling you man. That's what the scary thing about Trump is That's why I don't trust no polls.   Hmm. You really gonna say yeah, I'm voting for him after what he said last night. Nope. What is Dana white doing right now? Shit living up to his last name It's happy Maybe I thought the question was about the UFC and white supremacy. I thought it was a supremacy within MMA I just I'm gonna take some I'm gonna take some all just like America we in trouble And the reason we're in trouble is for all the reasons that we're discussing right now What Joe Biden represents what Donald Trump represents is not what America should be about in the future That's old school man. That's an old model. I don't want either one of those old models now I'm voting on November 3rd. Let's be clear on that But I'm voting on November 3rd hoping that it is a pathway There's something new there's something fresh because I literally thought That politicians after Barack Obama after seeing the success Barack Obama had I Definitely thought the Democratic Party was gonna get blacker browner younger more diverse in regards to gender But I thought the Republicans might have followed suit a little bit, too John McCain did push the air pale in his VP. I thought they would start a grudgingly though Be grudgingly, but I thought they would just start elevating a few more people like I think they setting up Daniel Cameron for running the future, but I'm just I just think that that Looks more like what America represents Just even if it's just just visually like they don't even talk like America You know how we always talk about diversity and we talk about the diversity in institutions Right, you could talk about it like in entertainment. You could talk about it on the corporate level of things, right? We always talk about Diversity in that way and then you see the lower level positions always had diversity Right like the athletes that are spot that are supporting the brands or like representing the brands You see the actors that are in the movies. There's diversity right there But the people that are really pulling the strings. Yes. What do they look like?  I think that's stupid I think you need the best person for the job but regardless of what their race is but the reality is is that the people that are probably in control of these institutions happen to be the Joe Biden's and The Donald Trump's and those people regardless of which side may be putting these like token diversity figures out to keep the People happy, but if the decision makers are still doing this you gonna get the same decision Absolutely, like it's too old man. It's too like I don't I just don't think you can teach teach them anything new I don't think they're willing to learn What if a mark Cuban was in somebody like that like wouldn't that bring like as you you're a black dude, right? And obviously you want to see color you want to see gender in politics, but if you saw mark Cuban you're like Does that bring about something different? He's an older white guy. I like I like I like Tim Ryan I like congressman Tim Ryan. Mm-hmm. You know I'm saying he's he's come I think Tim's like late 40s, right? You know what I mean? I like Tim. I like man Pete.  I'm tired.   He's also new month. That's not money. He was generational. Well, yeah And he was he grew up in an era where All ideologies of America that we talk about the liberty and justice for all freedom equality There's only we're the ones trying to really do that Us this generation, right? Right that older generation. They don't give up.   I'm not mad at Joe Biden when I see Joe Biden He got Senator, you know, Kamala Harris is VP got said the Grinchman is his co-chair You know, we don't know what that is, you know what I'm saying Like he says he wants to have the most diverse cabinet ever He wants to put a black woman on the Supreme Court.  Yeah, like I can see him in the room So why do we have all of these black and brown people here? This is the White House.  They took a microphone off. You know the girl stormy Daniels the porn star that he smashed Yes, it was it like do the book or like broke it in whatever and yeah, he hit it wrong Are you surprised? Yeah That's a wild-ass boy right there, dude.  Why are you all surprised about anything Donald Trump exact?  So you don't think he did anything I think he was rubbering up. I imagine you be rubbering up if you're smashing Privileged male look who you're talking to no no no I wear condoms, but he's rich in a different way He's yeah, you're I feel the level of entitlement.  He really done scared of STD. I What about pregnancy or do you think he's just pulling out and splashing? You don't think he's worried about kids First of all, you know how much money he's probably spent in abortion. Yeah What are you talking about? You wonder why he's $4 million in debt and nobody knows check the clinic By the way, that's another thing what yo why Joe Biden didn't ask him who do you owe the $400 million to? All right, let's do a little bit of church analysis. I just want to tell everybody man Salute for checking out the black effect podcast network on iHeart radio You can go to the iHeart radio app type in black effect and you know, it'll come up New episodes of all the smoke are available right now. 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Um Yeah, and we got tesla figaro and nina turner launching next week So, yeah, thank you to everybody that's been checking out the black effect podcast network You are appreciated. That's so dope man. And um Yet I'm gonna have uh, I've had to cancel all my shows until uh, 2021 man So we're gonna have to knock we're gonna have to reschedule all the shows until 2021 We're working on something right now. It's taking a lot of our time and I'll tell you about it, uh In in the near future are very excited and don't worry. It's gonna be working again We're gonna reschedule all those places a lot of those places are already rescheduled You contact the clubs for that and we'll be reposting everything when we start the tour back up in 2021 And hopefully the whole country's cracked open by that. Um, but yeah, that's the church enough Yo, why'd your biden didn't ask him? Who do you owe the 400 million dollars to? I think that uh, the reason why is is it came out and it was all like, uh, America-based banks Like dutch they ever said who they'll yeah, they have a list of it. They did. Yeah, but who is he in that too? Just banks just banks. Yeah, it's it's actually pretty Yeah, it's actually, uh, it's not that crazy. We looked it up the other day We had a seger from the rising on flagrant and like he broke the whole thing down And he basically like that's not the the issue isn't him being in debt And he has the assets to pay off the debt The issue is billionaires Have these loopholes in the system and they can take advantage and pay almost no tax and that's Honestly seger was breaking down. That's how amazon makes all its money It makes all its money in web servicing and then under charges and losing Loses money from the retail side of the business and then writes off those losses against the money made from the web Web servicing so it never has to profit.   We need to get here We need to get here yet. We need to get here. Hey, I said I demand this of you. We need to get all right.  No Speak on it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Y'all ain't never had to pay. That's the thing explain the difference six figures in taxes Okay I ain't talking about charlotte 100. I'm gonna be honest with you charlotte 200. You probably paid seven in taxes Oh, yeah, clearly. I'm just gonna tell my last year. Yeah, I've even think last year you probably paid seven If you're writing stuff off really good, maybe not but like Make my back hurt thinking about it I'm dude think about it bro charlotte think about it 50 tax rate, right 40 40 Yeah, you're probably up to 50 if you include state taxes and that kind of stuff Have your money bro.  Like I said, I get you with with with You know when you work for corporations like when you work for like iHeart You know buy a calm the money tax money already comes out. Whatever. Well, you don't have to because you can get paid You're probably paid as a uh Well, no, I let him take it.  Yeah That's That she comes to me directly. I gotta pay that shit myself Bro, when you looking at when you looking at these high and you look man, I'm listening man Yeah, yeah, all I'm simply saying is you're gonna feel it feel it.  This is how magneto gets people involved. You know what I mean like this is You know, he just taps into one thing that you agree with Come on this side. You can be a mutant. All I'm simply saying is Where are the goddamn tax loopholes that aid way on the tax codes? Give me the contra ship.  Stop making money, bro.  Why they upset? Because he's paying less in taxes than the average person Right, right. But the thing is you can't blame him for that. You got to blame these laws For that right because he didn't put in those laws So these laws allow you to do it like depreciation is the one that's the biggest one you have a building that's worth 100 million dollars, right Let's say They say that uh, they have somebody come in and assess the building and then they go You know what the building's only worth 90 million you get to write off that 10 million dollars in taxes, right?   You're an independent contractor, right? You should be able to you know, you Got to take your car to work, right? You got to take you got to pay gas to go to work Listen, you got it off You should read these articles Donald Trump took advantage of barack obama era laws to avoid Paying taxes. Yeah, you know what I'm saying and he paid no federal income tax for the years 2011 2014 and 750 in 2016 The year he was elected president He paid no federal income tax now.   If you get paid through your businesses, right your businesses make money not you right? If you make no money You pay zero dollars in income tax because you have no income So as long as you keep that money within the business And you prove that the business is actually not making money because any money that it does make you just Put into another business and you show losses, right? You show losses from another business Like I was just saying with the amazon example, you can show that you haven't uh Received any income for the entire year and therefore you don't have to pay any taxes on it That's what it said. Yo trump avoided paying the taxes Same with gates. Same with all these things with amazon Same with amazon, same with bezos. It's same as all these motherfuckers. So it's like if we're gonna take down trump for it Let's take down everybody. Let's take down the clintons.   Well, I think it's 10 years on it. I think it's hypocritical to use what Your administration implemented Against somebody When you're debating them. Oh, yeah on biden side. Yes 100% Yes, it says trump avoided paying taxes using accounting methods allowed in the tax code And that's perfectly legal, but evading taxes not paying what's owed to the government is not legal Trump also took advantage of the tax laws in effect during the presidency of george w bush This is it's you should really go read that Can you send that to me? Yeah, it's a but it's just I don't know man.  All I know is I wanted I too would like to pay less in taxes because you know why I'm a person That does a lot of philanthropy.  I'm out here giving back to the community So let me keep my money So I can get back to the motherfucking community. Well, you could do that. I think you could write off charity I write off a lot of stuff. Yeah, I write off charity.  I don't know. I'm just I'm I'm mind boggled that somebody like donald trump Can finagle his way to only pay 750 dollars in taxes He's literally I look at all the presidential candidates Remember they had they put up all the lists of the the money that they spent I spent more money in taxes than all of them except for joe bud And that's a little bit scary more than a little bit more than Elizabeth Warren I forgot who else was on that list But I spent more than all the presidential candidates on the democratic side except for joe bud Why is Warren not paying taxes a native american thing or I knew that was coming That debate that debate was great. They don't need no mortal See, I think the debates only benefit biden. I don't think they debate nobody to benefit anyone They don't debate. They don't they don't benefit. Nobody biden don't look strong bro See, this is so interesting We're coming in front at it from two completely different places and every one of my like strong left liberal friends Things that biden underperformed and every one of my conservative friends thinks that trump Underperformed and that biden killed it. I think trump was trump and biden was biden They both showed up as the people that I have come to expect I'm just saying the perspectives I've got from my friends.  Dude, you have to understand as a conservative like these conservative folks that I speak to They'll say literally that they don't think that biden can complete a sentence So the fact that he was actually up there looking somewhat coherent to them was a shocker So to them they're like, oh, he smokes trump conservatives were saying this I don't think either one of them Smoked each other and in fact the shit was like kind of like the end of rocky one Ah, yeah, yeah, it's like they both hit the mat You know, I mean nobody won they both got wheeled off in wheelchairs like I didn't I Listen trump was so And I say put terrible in air quotes because that's what everybody thinks even though he just looked like trump to me but He looked so terrible that biden looked decent but biden sucked Yeah, see I didn't see that I Every time it was so rehearsed and canned he would he'd be talking to Staring the camera That's why he missed so many good moments. That's why he missed so many good comebacks Because he was so busy trying to get his canned Rehearsed talking points off and looking the camera and trying to get these these these touching moments like no Yeah, but how debates are Trump is the only one who changed it. He usually debates are you it was the script He's talking to camera. You talk to the people at home. That's how they used to be Wow flip the whole script. That's true Well, biden should have verbally body slammed trump when trump didn't condemn white supremacy.  So he's not the one to go to bat for y'all and trump can call him out on it So he has to avoid it And at all cost and if biden would have just apologized months ago. Yeah And and and and this is what it is my bad work I mean, listen hillary when hillary came on the breves club the second time for the first time People forget this. I don't feel the first or second time, but she said like yo the crime bill Was a mistake. You know, I mean that wasn't the intention But a lot of people did go to jail unnecessarily before because of the 94 crime bill And I want to get a chance to become president to right those wrongs By the way, she wasn't even in the administration You understand i'm saying so it's not like she was even a part of that whole 94 crime bill. Shit. You know what I mean? So it's just like but she knew that it had fucked up it went off it went off the rails So she acknowledged she acknowledged it all Joe Biden had to do was acknowledge it and apologize for it. Yeah That's it. The fact you can't even do that.  Yeah By the way, we don't know what's going to happen on november 3rd. Yeah I have a question Did y'all see when um, you hide your shit? No, I'm not. I'm chill. No, she's not high. I know when she's like he knows But um, did y'all see when I don't know what they were arguing about but Trump was arguing over him. He's like and Biden was like number one Saying something and then he's like number two and he skipped to number three and then um, Trump was like, uh, actually you're a number two You didn't see that first Super petty, bro.  He needs to comment more. I was unimpressed. You were impressed. I was unimpressed, bro You wanted more slappers. I want to slap as a comedian. I just want to roast I want the second. I want the second. Biden started like mumbling about something. I want him to go I'll spit it out.  I wanted chris waltz back Oh order order That's what I wanted biden to do and I thought he was getting there if biden literally he said shut up He said he called him a clown And that was good that trended.  That's it malarkey. You won. Yeah debate over. Yeah I'm serious like you look strong The headlines today would be Joe biden is strong Joe biden is said what america in the world is thinking.  President.  No, we don't need no more debates. I'm being honest. It's gonna give us one more Nah, man, just because we're only doing it for entertainment purpose. Yes, we need entertainment duck either open up the country or give us more debates That's the rule That's the rule if you want to keep us locked in you better entertainment Is the country By the way, is the country not to know bro, I don't know Florida's been open, bro. They just said they reopened fully last this week. I'm like, yo, y'all been on phase four Like now he actually was on phase two.  Yeah I think Atlanta never shut down right Atlanta's just on phase two How what's phase two?  Is he black that guy? Cedric? Is that is he black the guy co-chair? Yo, what if you didn't say co-chair? What if he's like on the co-chair?  I gotta look it up I think he was like, I'm the culture for bro.  Like in america, we gotta share a chair. What kind of government position is that? Yo, yo, all right, what else tell anything else positive brilliant.  Yo, what else? Well, what's your thing? You said big Sean was brilliant. Um this morning. Yo, big Sean is brilliant But why I'm gonna tell you why big Sean is brilliant big Sean is brilliant because the level of um The level of of of of not blacking out On Kanye West the level of restraint that big Sean shows in regards To his situation with Kanye West Should be applauded. Why what can you break it all down for me? Yes Um, I only have enough room in my brain for one short rapper and I And you know No, be showing. Oh, I salute the Kanye. Um, you know, I don't want nobody to think that I'm hating on Kanye because I'm not I just really do have a problem with people who act like they're fighting for The greater good of everybody but in reality in reality. It's all self-serving, right? And so I was happy when I saw Kanye finally last week say I'm gonna give My good music artist 50% of their master's back, which as I said last week on the podcast I hope those artists hold him to that but The deal Kanye has big Sean in right now is a fucked up deal Kanye West owes big Sean three million dollars. Why?  He owes him three million dollars, right? Like owes him three Million dollars.   You know what? I've known if you're an executive. Yeah. Yeah.       You haven't even freed the people you can actually free You have the power. Yeah to give Sean his money is three million dollars. He's literally like one of the founding fathers Yes, all people created equal when all hold up. Hold up now all except for Sean All except the ones you own. Yeah, I just don't like that.   Like what's up?  I spoke to him uh last week last week. Yeah, I spoke to him last week But have you spoken to him since and no, I haven't spoken to him since since this since the since This new information. You know what I mean? But I hope I really do hold big Sean talks about it You know, I mean, I hope somebody asks him about it You know, yeah, this is because it's just a teachable moment. That's all and by the way, I want Kanye to do right by People I love to fight Kanye is attempting to fight But clean your own house up.  Absolutely. What do we always say on the podcast? It's like let people grow Okay, you learned you learned maybe the hard way that like owning other artist masters Put some in a position that you actually don't feel comfortable in yourself.  Yes But don't do it after the fact when you're called out Absolutely It is what you always see man. There's so much that is you know, it is it's con artists There's a lot of con artists out there and they're so good at running cons What makes a con artist so good is how entertaining they are how charming they are And they run these cons and they tell you everything that you want to hear and you start believing these things about that person But if you really look at the record Right, if you really look at who's Kanye has signed under him And if he's living by the principles that he's spouting on twitter, absolutely He ain't and a lot of other people like that man a lot and and eventually it comes to like that's all I gotta say Eventually that's why I say like, you know, um You know, whenever you get in a position of power and you're able to Do deals with someone. You know what I mean? Or do partnerships with someone give that person what you want.  We talk about old politicians Don't be like these old executives Let's do right by people.     If if they take half from me How can I pay you? How can I pay you? How am I supposed to I didn't get a hundred. I got 50 50 sounds way less. Has anybody in trump's team ever complained about not getting paid That's a great point That's a great point chris.  Have you ever heard about anybody in trump's team complaining about not getting paid? Well, his whole strategy is always hiring the people We'll do it for the least amount of money period. That's that's his whole business is based around that He doesn't go after good people. He goes after the cheapest people And the way you really get in With trump is you offer to work for free So and that's what he does if you look at his campaign a lot of the way that these guys got a foothold in the campaign is They said they would just do it and then they work their way up But he always goes for the the cheapest option possible. Why would a guy that loves cheap labor want to build a wall? Because he knows why that makes no sense Yeah, yeah, I guess so chris. What happened you didn't write the book Uh, I wrote half of the book and uh, I guess I can talk about this, you know, like I signed an NDA I wouldn't get you in trouble. She called me into her office Who she and Ivanka Ivanka trump. Okay. Can they hear? All right, okay She called me into her office and said, um, you know, it's clear to me that you don't respect my family and You know, I just kind of shrugged And that was the end of that and you know, she wrote me a long letter and uh, we leave me in my services and I was fired first time I've ever been fired for anything actually so I can wear that is Nah, this is so this this is what they do, right? I'll break down the trump business model for you right now When it comes to hiring people for stuff like this let's say hypothetically that book the Called the ghost writing rate on that book should have been let's say $100,000. I'm just throwing out a number, right? So they come to me initially and they say Hey, we can pay you $50 grand to do this job And we know it's a little bit under But you're going to get so much other work just from being associated with the trump brand That it's going to be worth way more than 50 to you, right? Now. I just had a kid Um, it was a sellout move. I'll admit that but I just had a kid and I was looking for money You know, they were just the trumps. I didn't think any of this was ever going to happen. So all right I'll take the 50 Then what they do is they go halfway through it And I believe they would have fired me regardless if I had hadn't disrespect the family or not Because what they then do is you get halfway through you're not doing a good job Um, we got to let you go Then they go to somebody else and they say listen We got we need you to clean up this book. Um You know, it's almost already done. It's an easy job We can only pay you 15 to finish it But you're going to get all the credit And you'll get the benefits from being associated with the trump brand And then they end up getting a hundred thousand dollar job for let's say like 30 grand And they just do versions of that across the board. That's the whole strategy I mean she's pretty upfront about it. Wow That's the art of the deal That's the art now the problem is that maybe I'm dissing myself a little bit by saying this You don't get the best people that way You get a lot of the bottom feeders who are just like, yeah, give me the money. Yeah, let me work for free What have you they're always interested in the cheapest deal the cheapest Candidate not I mean if you look like how they hired their social media team in 16 It was all people who were willing to work for free You know, it wasn't like established veterans He didn't he didn't pick people from outside the system because he was trying to change the system He didn't want to pay for the system.   I saw it when I worked in the organization, man It's all shell games. He's just moving it around He's betting on and he it's been a successful bet so far No one wants to mess with the lawyers. No one wants to challenge it. It's too complicated It's too complex and he just keeps getting away with it and getting away with it and getting away with it All right. That was former trump operative chris morrow There you go Former trump operative chris morrow giving us some inside dirt on the trump team.  What do you mean? A beautiful woman? Really? Oh, yeah He's average. 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Come on now How you think I got these white hairs in my beard? Give me another one Taylor. What we got? She'll be okay about next week. Um, I don't know if it's Completely, I don't think we should talk about it. No, I'm not gonna turn this into it. No, no, no I'm gonna do something else. What that probably means now. I really want to talk about it. No. Go. Is it the Tory? Um Is it? Well, yeah, with Tori Lane. Yeah, y'all didn't discuss it. What did Tori do?  Yeah Jay, you right Um, and I was gonna say the Breonna Taylor thing He thought it was brilliant that someone wants to demand like something from the Oh, yeah, that situation that got sticky like honey What's this the Breonna Taylor situation like they um, they have to relete one of the grand jurors said that um They're demanding the full transcript come out because they're saying that attorney Daniel Cameron never presented it as a Murder which we kind of broke down a couple weeks ago because I was I was wondering like the way that the case was You know the way that it was presented don't seem like they even presented it to the grand jury as a murder She wasn't even mentioned in yeah the transcript So an attorney Daniel Cameron has all but admitted to the fact that he didn't present it as a homicide. Yeah, I don't I don't know what happens from here. I know that there's a federal investigation So I just you know somebody just needs to be held accountable for that situation.  Yeah, so somebody needs to be held accountable.  He's not dating but moved in with Um, Niah's ex that was sad. What? I mean, that's just a sad situation. I respect both of them. I respect uh Niah's ex and the sister for doing what they have to do for the child And I'm saying but it's sad that they have to do that under You know these circumstances. Oh, they're doing it for the child. Yeah.  Yeah, we're in one right now I don't doubt that what see why do we have to jump to that?  They're raised in the same way. There's like cultural values They probably share body type. They really may truly grow to love each other But what I'm simply saying is Americans are crazy because we hear such a pure story. Yeah, this is a pure story I don't know how pure it is Pearl Harbor remember when that dude was smashing out Ben Affleck shorty be is that thought he was dead I get it. They made a movie about this too. Actually. How it just happened. No, no, no Not about Niah Rivera like something similar to it That's the Pearl Harbor the movie And his best friend started dicking down his girl You don't remember that's it's like an integral part of the plot Outside of the Japanese just flying the planes into the I never watched You didn't see Pearl. You're familiar with Pearl Harbor, right? I just never seen all of it. Yeah You remember Pearl Harbor for real? I remember all the pearls Yeah, you're not gonna try that's not what happened. Oh, but no, I just don't know why people jump to the worst possible scenario like They was it was it her ex boyfriend? Are the father, what is it? It's her ex. It's Niah's ex-boyfriend. Niah Rivera. Is he the father of the child? Yeah, what no, no, no, I thought he won't. Yeah, he is he's the father of the child. Oh, and he's moving in with the sister Yes I don't see the problem. I mean, this is a beautiful thing. I think it's incredible. I think it's weird of us To think that they're just automatically in a relationship, but if they do Yeah, grow to like each other and want to be with each other Who cares? Yeah, I'm not judging really Yeah, just let it be man. Let it be What else we got? um What else Taylor what's something that we really won't care about next week um fresh prince mansion for air bnb I saw that I don't care about that this week too. Don't care um, they said that it's according to carly Jenner's um, thirst picture that The registration for voting is has soared now Oh, yeah, because she put a picture up and she said go vote. Yeah, but that's good Like thoughts using the thought technique to get people to potentially vote. I'm tired of democrats being starfuckers, bro Democrats and starfuckers like they don't hit the ground enough like they got to be on the ground shaking hands with You know actual grassroots activists that are actually out there on the front lines Like literally everything democrats do is sending around some type of celebrity.  What's that if you talk about the issue that The people that you want to vote for vote for you are going through You know what I'm saying actually present these people with you know plans and you know, uh proposed legislation based off What you see they need That's what'll make people vote for you not carly Jenner.  They're lying about basic. Basic.  This is dream-selling season. Y'all ain't even giving me good dreams Bro to buy into Where are the dreams? Maybe that's why it's so uninspiring Trump gave us a dream as we can trump said I got a platinum plan 500 billion dollars for black people and i'm throwing in juneteenth is a holiday and i'm making antifa in the kkk hate group You like it?   Let me see what sticks if trump did that But he was like, but you got to let me be okay with white supremacist supporting me. Would you be cool? No The country can never thrive Under the energy of any kind of supremacy But especially white supremacy, but any kind of supremacy like that's not how the country We can't we can't survive like that, bro. Yeah, like I don't want to live in a country where Anybody feels oppressed where anybody feels marginalized. You know what i'm saying? Like it's like you you you have you have businesses Other than alex, you don't oppress your people. You don't treat You don't marginalize them you make I watch how you operate You make everybody feel a part of right what it is that you're doing That's how america should be america's not like that right agree Agreed, I think it's how we talk about if you walk into a restaurant and you can judge a person based off how they treat the waiter Yeah, how they treat the waitress is saying it's uh the way you treat the ceo No, no, it's like uh, you you Oh, if you want to see how something uh, um, um, um by how you treat someone that doesn't need anything from you Yes, um, if you want to see the true character of a person and watch how they treat people that can't do shit for them America has fucked up character That's the truth for the matter man.  Interesting.  Yeah.  Oh, we're gonna give you some loopholes exactly interesting I drove in I drove in the day and the brooklyn. I'm looking under the bridge and I'm looking at all these homeless people and I'm like America gotta stop lying in so this is not the land of milk and cum You know what i'm saying? It's just not Like it's just simply not like there should be no homeless people. There should be no homeless veterans Everybody should have access to motherfucking health care.   Well, you got to get straight a's and then you get a new xbox something like that America wants health care.  We're not gonna pay for it What if we put it on america? I like that. You know why I like that because it kind of keeps It doesn't kind of keep it keeps everybody having a bar to shoot for so All right You got a little out of shape cool We'll give you free health care if you go lose this weight So go to a gym, you know free gym membership, whatever it is If you dedicate your time and effort to losing this weight, then you get free health care That right there and yo by the way if you get it for the rest of your life if you just stay in shape Man unless of course you're suffering from some type of sickness or something like that That's causing you to have that or some type of disease. Absolutely. That's different. But for those of us who Aren't suffering from those type of things. Yes, that's a great incentive and in high school Imagine in high school if you like yo if you have a certain gpa you can go to The college of your choice for free, you know what they got this is not for free But uh, I think they might already have they have something where Santa Monica community college is community college, right? If you have a certain gpa, you get automatic access to ucla. It's one of the best schools in the world ucla All you gotta do is get this gpa. So it certifies you. Yo, go to this community college pay way less money Imagine from eighth grade, right? So once you get in the ninth grade if you keep a certain gpa throughout your whole high school Get a certain sat score you get guaranteed Woo Yeah, that gives you incentive. Yeah, so we're not going.   You would get an academic scholarship.  I didn't go to college. You know what? Say what did you go to college?  I'm just saying I'm not worried about these problems the moral of the brain Incentivize people that's it. That's it Incentivize people to to do well america ain't getting no bonuses.  We are the luckiest people on the planet to be born in america now in history Like very lucky. We could be born in a lot of different other places where it'd be incredibly difficult way to live Now y'all motherfucking Siberia born five years from now, I don't know It might be rough for y'all. It might be rough for y'all. It really might. I don't know remember this podcast We was here before We were living in your room was lit y'all forget Y'all really forget how fire america was man. I was looking like what for real You could pull up to a drive to and get food whenever you wanted you're saying for a living. They just talked into mic Now that freedoms are restricted now. You can't wait a minute. So y'all used to could talk about this Bro imagine those old tweets. Yeah If trump wins in november and really becomes a dictator It makes it to where you can't ever say anything bad about him ever again.  We're gonna have a field day Now i'm moving say what i'm moving anguilla Yeah, he'll buy it He almost bought greenland.  All right. Listen I'll hear it out. Hey alex media. I'm sorry dog alex media. I'm sorry dog.  That's not it. Oh my god. It's not bodiqua bodega No, it's not okay It's not bodiqua bodega. It's bodiqua morena morena Black portorecan, that's what he's saying. I thought they were saying bodiqua black portorecan chick Bodiqua bodega. No, give me snapple. Give me beef patty All right, empanada. I'd probably be empanada not beef patty. Definitely empanada Anyway, greenland, we got to hear it out. That's all i'm saying. It might be better for portorico as well You don't want to hear out greenland the opportunity. What if we just rented y'all? What if we just leased portorico, we just leased it. That'd be a dope name for a company though. Yeah, portor written portor written You don't think so? Come on al What?  I mean Let me tell you something.  No race. I run into one in daily basis But here's the thing about portoricans got portorican. I swear to this is this is the thing It's something so amazing portoricans. It might be Andrew A culture race in a long time Let's go expert. So let me this is something that's so amazing and it might be dominicans as well It might be both. I'm not exactly sure which one it is But the first group of people to find a way to thrive in corona Was portoricans dominicans. Really?  I don't know how you drive here every single day. I'm on a bike, right? Everything was locked down There was one spanish restaurant. I think it was called macondo's or something like that, right?  You gotta love me social distancing Find a way to thrive The party you're saying they're pulling up and it's only they didn't drive through hookah. Yeah, but it's only one hookah No, no, they brought a hookah up to every car. It's drive through hookah. They found a way. You gotta love them That's clean. We need latinos. They made partying. Okay for everybody. We saw them party If you're trying to sound more spanish I have to bring them in bro. I gotta bring them in. I have to bring them have to make us so they understand me Why oh my god, come on I got Missy on Tory Lee's um he mentioned on Tory Lee's um I did What do you say? You he mentioned your donkey the day stuff and I think he said something about You or just people in general like putting him I didn't hear it. I didn't hear the album So I heard the donkey the day intro, but yo, yo, can we talk about Tory for one second? Just go ahead one second I'm tired of these motherfuckers. They think that like the world is out to get them There's just like a smear campaign going on y'all are throwing the word smear campaign around a little too much And by the way to what academic posted, you know, I think it was like, um, I can't remember the websites But it was different websites. I think they'll never cover Tory again Tory bought that on himself because Tory put out an album Talking about the situation these people didn't take this stand before that. Yeah, they took to stand after Tory put out an album. Yeah, so that's not a smirking They're upset with you because they feel like you're capitalizing off the situation that that that you're profiting off violence towards Women. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah Nobody once again, Tory, nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining. So You know, yes, I think people should be using terms like allegedly. Yes I think Tory should have his day in court allegedly fine. Yeah, but people need to keep in mind that Megan the stallion said Tory did this to her, right? So that's what everybody's going off, right? So when people have these opinions about Tory, it's not a smear campaign, right?  I don't know nothing but none of that Isn't that I just don't know why people are confused now Also, if he says something like I didn't shoot her I shot around her or something like that Don't shoot around anybody. Yeah. He's no, he's not he didn't say that But he said it didn't go down like that who said but that's not no the keywords like that So who said that he still didn't shoot her. He still didn't say that he did not shoot her I just know that it's clearly and he said that Kelsey didn't do it either That was the best friend. Who is Kelsey? That's the best friend. I was in the car too. Oh It's clearly more to the situation than we know.  Like I don't You know, I gave Tori donkey today, but Maybe I shouldn't have done that because you don't know the whole I don't know the whole story Yo, but here's the thing like I'm going off with Megan said to like everybody.   I'm going on Instagram. Tori the guy who literally went on Instagram live every single day The quarantine couldn't find his phone for 10 years for 10 days. I like what he posted yesterday though on a day Which was what? How he said that Yeah, he's not worried about he's not worried about what social media thinks He's moving when God wants him to move And when a comic is bombing on stage, what do they do?    Yep, and you got to deal with it. And you yep. Yeah But it is a lot It is a lot about this story that is like Yeah, okay, like I wonder why Tori hasn't been charged Yes, why Tori hasn't been charged also why her foot doesn't you know look like Jesus Like there's some things that you want to see if someone actually gets shot You want to see a hole in the foot, right? Well, it's well you did the report the report I read said that she had Fragments in her in her um That's the thing about the fragments.  Yeah, I like I said When Megan when I heard what Megan said, it should sounded like super like believable You know what I'm saying like the way she even the way she even described why she didn't Come forward in the beginning. I was like man I I I have no why would a person lie about something like that? Like this is Megan the stallion In Tori lanes. Yeah, this isn't just too Joe blow motherfuckers. You know, I'm saying like yeah I don't know. God bless them all.  What did we say? You said wait, I do want to say something about I was mentioned on Tori's album. I want to hear what he said. I like to hear how people rhyme Charlemagne I really do Let me think of what things that rhyme with Charlemagne. He didn't rhyme. He didn't sound good on that album to me at all I heard that I'm slapping. It was People that have don't have a good ear. I haven't heard it, but I heard that I've heard people tell me that album slaps. Really? That's what I heard.  Yeah, you're really high Taylor. You're really high. He forgot to comb the back of your hair All right Um I can't find the right one. She can't even read.  I can't. All right.  Yeah That's a good question. I kind of want to say he's not hip hop artist But I would say chris brown a little bit I don't know chris brown had an amazing career. No, he does but I feel like he could be bigger. That's all um Yeah, when it's already say god willing what he's It's up to god like I think chris. I think chris is amazing. Chris gonna go down as a legend. Yeah Of course. No, of course. I'm just saying yeah, I think chris out of great I think chris brown is chris brown is the bar for a lot of people.  Where is he bet?   Yeah Rattlesnake bites one on the dutch on the what nuts I'll come on For real.  Yeah another friend takes a picture. He don't know what's going on.  Oh my god He takes a picture.  I got it. I got a gay comedy.  What do you mean?   You're gay the way it works I'm sorry guys once the video goes by this goes back to what we're saying about like making the thai entire lane situation Once the narrative is out there.  Yeah once that goes viral.  Yeah, you gotta show us your rattlesnake And by the way, think about how much of a lie it sounds once this goes viral once it goes viral Now you come out Man, nah, that's not what happened. He got bit by a rattlesnake. Yo Come on.  Yep. Nothing you can do.  Yo, right. Ain't no rattlesnakes.  Yeah, he was rattling his snake.  I don't think he can though. I don't think there's nobody. I think he's I think he's in um Rare air to where he's the he's he's far and away the best in his business. It's unbelievable And there's no competition close. I don't I mean, I don't I don't see it. I mean, I'm I'm not a huge UFC guy You know, maybe if he goes way up and wait if he goes up and wait try to fight a john jones or something like that No, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. I mean, he's so good. I think that he takes out john jones I think it's way more.  He might be six five They might be the same height john jones and is he but is he so strategic? Is he still got that?  He looks innocent. Yeah He's joking around. He's into like anime and stuff. Yeah. Yeah.  Yeah, is he still like you could be in a bar having a good time Is he says what's up to your girl?   I'm serious. He's a beast though, man.  Do you see what he did to the dude after he knocked him out? He humped him. He humped that motherfucker, dude, but that's what happens. All of them do that. Say what? I feel like all of them do that. All of them do that. No I feel like I seen another bra to do that.   Let's shake my hand after the fact, bro Don't shake my hand when you see me again ever. No, you humped. I got kids.  Yeah, I'll give you some of the best Let me show you a style that we could work. What did that dude like to undefeated?    Say what? They're gonna fight harder to try to avoid that hump. You don't think they'll be more careful Nah Well, maybe Adele needs to do one or two things. They'll be more careful to not get touched But they're definitely gonna go harder to touch him. Yeah, they don't want to get that goddamn hump at the end That's got to be his finishing move But he got to do that with every single person just one thrust bro. That's fire Yeah, it's disrespectful. It's disrespectful. No, he's a beast. I wonder why he's not bigger though I think that you might be outside of Like the ufc world a little bit, but he's he's the guy that's he's the face of the ufc But that's about me like game like I feel like he should be big period You know I'm saying like he got the look, but you know what it is like I don't think the hip hop world has embraced ufc like an embraced boxing and I think that he's the first athlete in the ufc that understands hip hop culture that understands the music That like is part of the music and part of the culture might be from new zealand via nigeria But the way like he's a fan of the breakfast club. He's a fan of the music, right?   So of course there's going to be a little bit of a barrier to entry in that You think you think because is he's not american because john jones had a little buzz for a second But john jones, I don't know like I don't know if the hip hop community ever embraced john jones Not embraced but not embraced, but they we were aware maybe aware. I watch his fights. You know what I'm saying? I didn't order though. I ordered for his I would say that jorge mazvedal Gamebred Has more hip hop appeal just because of the kimbo slice videos and shit that he was in kimbo slice Remember kimbo slice. Remember like the backyard brawl videos or whatever like he don't know about the bridge I'm talking about though. Say what you said something about some bread.  That's a Jorge mazvedal Gamebred gamebred is his nickname. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah wild dude But uh, but yeah, I think is he really could be that for the ufc And I can think he could bring like a whole new demographic into the ufc Especially with the way he fights because nobody wants to see two dudes just humping each other during the fight afterwards It's funny, but during the fight. You don't want to watch 25 minutes that you want to see elite striking You want to see motherfucker get punched in the face or kick in his mouth? Yeah, and he got the personality like he got He's the complete package. Yeah, he's a beast.   It's the brilliant podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace