Yeah, so hi everybody. Let's start for this new info meeting We don't have specific topics that we have to discuss today. So we just did I Would just start a quick overview. So the first thing is the so as last last week I mentioned that we had some issues with the fastly accounts. So I created on the fastly accounts I was supposed to be granted with a specific open source arm I was supposed to join the open source program and we had some issues and it should be solved now. So Either today or tomorrow should start configuring Fastly to use I mean to use the CDN for checking that I also did something that should be coming in the coming days Otherwise the main topic has been to work on the check ins release automation projects So we did a lot of Testing around the packages that we are generating we spotted a few bugs and and we fix those bugs Now we are mainly working on the documentation. So I sent an email on the mailing list one hour ago asking for feedback if people are interested to I mean Just asking for more fees for more feedbacks and otherwise we should try to Plan a release probably next week Depending on how the coming days is happening So, yeah, do you have any question now? Do you want to bring any specific topic? So the thing is the do yeah, yeah, I liked I liked all like suggestions should we already consider? We were delayed this week on doing the weekly. I assume all like that the weekly has not yet happened even now and Thus is this is an excuse to say let's test drive the this with the current weekly Yeah, we can do that So basically somebody just needs to paint KK and say that whatever you were doing is don't I Haven't sent a message yet, but if you have an opportunity why not there is nothing really critical in this release Well, yeah, I like I like that approach because it lets us do it during a weekday Without feeling obligated to do it Sunday night to match with something that had been done previously So it's a great excuse to try it Actually, we do it on Monday. Even if we weren't to do it this week, we'd do it on the Monday wouldn't we just so that it's not in the weekend Agreed agreed in the future, but yeah, that's valid point So, yeah, my my only concern to do it right now is that there is one last Bugs that I would like to solve so basically right now we are generating index that HTML So basically many cover package the Jenkins that I own So when we generate the artifact we publish that are those artifacts and then we generate a website With information like how to install they beyond how to install read that and son and there is still a last last But I would like to fix on that part So it does not really impact the release process or the packages that we are generating but more like When we generate new release we also publish We also update the package website So I'm I'm much less worried about that than I am about the things that I think we don't yet know about But we will learn about by the virtue of running through the process The package page. I suspect there are many many more things that we haven't yet discovered that are that are That need need further attention Okay So otherwise, yeah, we can we can start so what like what would be your when would you like to start this tomorrow? Well for me, I would prefer to do it tomorrow on Thursday so that we have some time to react Basically, I can just Dedicate almost all the time I can send heads up to KK But the Team is here. Alex is here Marcus here. So basically all core maintainers around Except Oliver, but for Oliver, it's less of concern at the moment until we ship LCS So I would give it a try in the worst case we botched as a weekly release We send a message to KK asking to Ship a new release on the top of that Okay, not something unknown It sounds like your plan and for me for the things that I want to push I only want one only only one or two a word to implement that so It should be ready for for Thursday. Well, so could we I have integrated KK release a few minutes ago. Oh, okay done even better. This still gives us an excuse We could release a new weekly and and just admit it's a discard. Couldn't we? Yes, yes, you have a lot of things in the backlog And then the pull request keel so creating can save release for tomorrow or Thursday still doable sure Maybe even a mock release without changes, but we definitely can integrate something There's one that's ready with the two line documentation change and core maintainer guys Oh and the maintainer guide. Yes, there you go. Get that one merged. Yes Well, these changes and user facing I would prefer to lend something small but user facing to be honest, okay Yeah, that's for sure and I still have a plan to propose one line fix for Jenkins for the runner So yeah, I can just submit it Okay, just to read global configuration if Daniel would reply or even Felix's time stamp for the thing we could go in Yeah, so yeah, we can take it offline but So Oliver So Olivia, what's your preference about the time when you would like to ship it? So for me, we can we can plan Thursday seems to be a good time Let's say, let's say, but I mean, let's say the time where we have people on the US and people in the Europe leg three or four PM UTC maybe three PM UTC Let's let's see the best time, but I can send an invite for Thursday to the people involved Yeah, that's right. We also need to send heads up to the developer man at least just in case So If you could do that, it would be great and on our side, we will prepare some changes in the master branch tomorrow Just a quick reminder on the time here on the timing here triggering a release the release job take around one hour 30 And the packaging job take around 30 minutes in the 30 minutes have 15 minutes ready to generate the packages You have 15 minutes to generate the packages and you have 15 minutes used to synchronize the different doors Should we trigger the release earlier? Is that the real there the release doesn't really matter so much It's just release is just what we're building if you just trigger it around lunchtime as long as we merge before then And then it's the actual essential packaging and deploying the artifacts that matters Well, and and don't don't be hesitant to do it earlier in your day Olivier because Alex and I are both though. We're in the US time zone. We are certainly Early risers and on Thursday morning will be up very at least I'll be up very early Markey, I don't know for you But but I think you should feel free to do it anytime on Thursday. Don't don't delay till your afternoon agreed Agreed Just quick check before I go to the credentials. I just want to be sure. Um, so a leg has the permission to To to push to Jenkins here slash Jenkins and the master branch if I'm right No Well, I think they have never requested these permissions. So because basically I will have some in the current process I will have so let me open the variables I mean, you need a right key to Jenkins to Jenkins repository rights. Yes Yep, so I need I need I need to be able to write the chat in CS Alex and Alex's access to do that. Yeah, I have access on the org So I also need Right permission on the Maven repository. I Don't have access to do our factory stuff Is it only a Daniel I think that might be Daniel Well, technically we could grant access to someone but only yeah, I think it would be better that Since you have flux to the process that you could just orchestrate it and if you need permissions To push to the code, I think we can grant them by Thursday Yeah, so I just Um, so Jenkins here, so Jenkins are factory and I think that's it Yep, that's it Um, so yeah, okay That yeah, that's on that sounds like a grid plan. I'm really happy to test this There is also another topic where marky whether he's helping his Auditing the the community's cluster and see how we can improve the security process I don't know if you have any update that you want to do here Marky I ran. Yeah, I ran the initial scan Uh, and it didn't break anything because nobody said anything. So that's a positive Uh, I ran that. Uh, I need to configure the scan again To run what I want to do on the second I want to see if it gave me the same results back that way. I know It's actually running correctly Uh, and then I will run finally before next Informating I'll run a third scan And then I'll publish the results. Uh, when I publish the results. I won't make those public I'll publish them in a spreadsheet that I will uh, I'll share it with everybody on this call Okay, which tool are you using for the scan? sonar boy Sonar boy Yeah, okay So it was it was a tool designed by heptio and now they're under vmware, but that's pretty I I looked at spotifies cube cube cube bought it and I they did the reason that I did not like that tool is it required too many permissions Uh, and and instead of adding the permission separately It altered existing permissions and I did not like that because I did not want to have to go back in and change Uh, those cluster admin permissions in the rbap Okay, thanks Thanks for that on this. Um, yeah, thanks um There is any other questions or topic on the automated release So I don't know if you already started thinking about how we Planned to release as well the stable release or is it still too early to discuss about that? So let's just focus on the weekly Focus on weekly for me. Yeah I expect I expect several surprises on this one and several more surprises next week And we're going to proudly by the end of april say we got it. All right Okay, I just I just want to be sure that it's still in our head So if we have to to implement a fix, um, it does not impact the way we would release the stable releases So that's the only thing um Otherwise Sorry They have network issues didn't meant to interrupt you I just wanted to ask whether you want to establish some communication channels for jankin score for thursday It looks like it would be a good thing to have them When we do all these releases And yeah, there is ongoing hollywood about slug versus gitter versus matrix versus whatever But maybe we could make an intermediate decision how we communicate during this release To me to me to me do the most important one is the jankin's Uh mailing list the jankin's dev mailing list, right? Well, but I thought yeah, I thought you were I thought oleg was targeting High interaction communications Back and forth not not not informational Oleg did I understand you? Yeah, that's totally right. For example, we had the same kiss with alexo and team With regards to docker agent renaming Docker gitter So it was also quite a runtime communication And if we end up with needing something like that for jankin score, I would rather prefer to have a channel for that Okay, so now the question is My assumption was we would use irc because that's what we've done before with jankin's infra Um, I don't find That's my assumption as well Yeah, that's my assumption as well and all the people involved in this can use irc anyway, so Okay, then I've seen this Well, so oleg were you were you considering? Hey, should we try something to try another channel for me? I like irc right now because it's familiar and while we're doing something that will be new and somewhat unfamiliar Using a familiar channel felt like a healthy thing to do So the question is which what new tool do you want to bring in the loop? And I in this case, I don't I want to stay with the old tool personally Just just so that I don't have to worry about tool changes and Build changes we can change tools later a week or two from now I agree with that sentiment. I agree with mark sentiment. I definitely think there should be a discussion about the tool change But I don't think it should happen in conjunction with the release Okay, so let's stick to rc for now um Yeah, otherwise If we don't have any other puppy that we want in this case, I think we can stop the meeting here I just had one thing that would be good to get fixed Incrementals has been broken for a few weeks um With the I think the passwords expired, but I'm assuming that you don't have access currently to fix that, Olivia When you say Tim when you say incrementals broken incrementals for jankin's core incrementals for Everything incrementals publisher Oh It gets a great So the credit the credit card is to a full artifact area, right? Yeah Yeah, that's the artifact or credentials looks it looks like it's the artifact or credential Um, would you have the logs that you can that you could share? I mean it gets a 403 When I try to publish it gets a 403 I believe Yeah, then then I can contact Daniel to see um, yeah, if you if you can share as many information that would be useful But otherwise There's at least two tickets open. I'm trying to find it So that that would be a help for me as well I actually have a pull request to a certain plugin I maintain that needs an incremental from another plugin So I didn't realize it was broken and I awkwardly suggested that the student suggesting it should use incrementals And so now I've lied to the student. Sorry about that. Yeah, it's getting a green tick But it's because it's It's ignoring it's ignoring errors just like it should except that we're ignoring the error like we shouldn't got it Yeah Here it is his chest to Jesse raised this one It's an ISE now Can you share the the ticket either on rc or in the document? It's an ISE I mean Yeah, so I can see I can see the function, but I can't see the logs to the function.  Um, is there a person interested to participate in the fastly configuration? Do I mean is there someone who want to have access to the account? Because right now it's only it's only because you can't me I'd be interested in helping out Okay, so I can send you an invite I had one quick item if if there's nothing else Yep So we're gonna have um s390x and power pc and arm Agents coming up. Um, our labeling right now for like docker jobs is just the docker and label So we need to come up with some labeling mechanism whether we want to Change things that currently just require docker To require docker and something else Or mark doesn't like that idea But we need some way of Labeling things so that we don't put the wrong jobs on the wrong Or the job the right job on the wrong agent Within the infrastructure. So just something to think about Okay, um, I don't know if you had the time to because I did not follow anything regarding the work there But regarding the iB infrastructure the adding those as agent and Seattle Jenkins that I own and and some was the current status there Because as far as I know we still have to We still have we still have some script to configure those those infrastructure And then we still have to add those machines to Seattle Jenkins that I you're right Yeah, that's correct. Currently. We do have arm You you added the um packer imaging for arm on aws at least so we have that and that is docker capable um, so We can't label it as just docker So do we do we want to start doing arm docker? You know s390 docker as one label that just Then we can talk about an irc. I just wanted to get people thinking about it Isn't there is there a platform label at plugin that does this for you There is but I'm not sure that yeah, there is and we could consider that I'll bring it to irc and we can have a conversation There's also an implied labels Um, there's an implied labels plugin that will use apply rules to existing labels to generate new labels for us So we could we could talk about both those I just know that there are a ton of uh Things in like the pipeline library that look for just docker as a label Right, and I like that so that's why I think we should not docker really implies amd64 and Exactly and we should just admit that that's the reality. We're never going to be able to change that whether we like it or not Yeah, but so but for these special ones They just need some other label or some suffix or something Yeah, even the best way to do that because we'll need it for doc We've got something like that with wind doc right now, right right alex So so we just need to choose a scheme that will work for us dealing with Multiple platforms and not breaking the compatibility. We have the existing labels. Yeah Okay, so let's continue this discussion on our team. Um, thanks for your time and see you later. Bye. Bye Thanks Cheers everybody Thanks


Nobody's perfect. And there may be a possibility that I was wrong about the Bitcoin spot ETF being approved. And what perked up my attention was there was a recent interview with former SEC chair, Jay Clayton. And for the first two minutes, he talks about just the general markets, just as an overview. And then he gets to talk about specifically the spot ETF. Just take a listen. This is two minutes, and it'll really make you think of where things are going. Let's go back to like 2015, 16. This is an offshore retail, nothing close to what I would say the core of our financial markets. At that time, if you look at trading of Bitcoin, the emergence of Bitcoin, it looked like it looked like stocks, but it was nothing like it. Now we've seen a development all the way to the point where companies whose reputation in the market matters are saying, you know what? We think that trading, we think that the custody, we think that those protections around this market are sufficient that we're willing to put our name on it and offer that product. That's actually an incredible development, not one that I expected. I was very skeptical of trading in the Bitcoin market when I was SEC chair. I thought, you know, there were studies that 90% of it was washed trading right from manipulation and the like large people dumping the fact that we have these institutions that know markets better than anybody and are saying, you know, we're going to put our reputation behind it. I find that pretty remarkable. Can they say no to a spot ETF? How much longer? Well, it goes to that issue. I think that when the SEC approved the futures-based ETF, they said, let's look at the futures market. We see the surveillance. We see the protections in that market for the end investor that are sufficient. We don't see them in the spot market. So we're going to make that distinction. I think what the institutions are arguing is that those distinctions have gone away and now the spot product is actually less drag, more efficient for the investor. So if there's not that delta in regulation, not that delta in, what I could say, efficacy, the spot should be approved. That's the argument that's going on right now. The regulatory process, whether it doesn't matter. It's been a while already. It's been a while already. What I would say is this, if they're right, that you can demonstrate that the spot market has similar efficacy to the futures market, you know, it would be hard to resist approving a Bitcoin ETF. So yeah, there you go. I mean, Jay pretty much says it pretty openly that, look, we've had these Bitcoin futures ETFs and those went on without a hitch. And there were just some problems with regulatory oversights and transparency. It looks like now they have that in place. So maybe it'll actually work. And just to make sure that you heard this, because the title of this video will be the spot ETF should be approved. I want you to listen to this one more time. The spot should be approved. That's the argument. Yeah. So I hate when YouTube videos, they put a title and a thumbnail and it doesn't match. It loosely matches what they're talking about, but not even where it should be. So I just wanted to make sure that you knew what Jay said, the spot should be approved, which leads me to my next point, which is ETFs, futures, and spot. And if we can take a look here, this is just a little data that I put together. We took a look at just how well Bitcoin futures did over time. Bitcoin futures was not the greatest timing, I will say, like this. So you can go back to 19 October 2021. It started at 64,000. 26 October is 60,000. 10 November is 65,000. It'll give you a chance to short it. So that's pretty much where they were going if that's what they wanted to do. If you're looking for things to go up as far as the future is horrible timing, right? Now there's one down here. This was on 21st of June at 20,000. That was a short ETF. They probably should have done it up here, but whatever. Again, not a great time in the futures. Probably the best one would be this volatility shares futures 2x leveraged Bitcoin ETF. That's not for me. That was just a couple of weeks ago, 27th of June, 2023. And never forget the big futures ETF that came out, which is on 15th of December, 2017. And then just two days later, it crashed the entire market for a couple of years. So futures ETFs, not so great. Spot ETFs, though, I mean, if you look globally, we can't look at America, but we can look at Canada. And they had a couple in 2021. And they started at 51,000 and price went up, looked pretty good, but did fall a little bit. I think maybe these two individuals, the purpose BTC spot and Evolve ETF, maybe they got held up on some little FOMO, Galaxy Digital, same thing, 52,000, 3IQ at 55,000. So not so much the greatest if you wanted to, but at least they got it off the ground. And there was one here on 30th of June. This is probably the best one if you're going long. The Canada and Fidelity Bitcoin Spot ETF. So again, I think there's some upside to it. And could I be wrong? Sure. But I think it's going to be approved. No, I still don't think it's going to be approved. Let's see what happens. There's a lot of data to support it. I think it's going to happen. Let me know where I'm wrong in the comment section. And to continue on, here's some more bullish news. So this was from Business Insider and Standard Chartered. It's a global bank. It's centered in England, has branches all over the world. And one of their analysts came out and said, hey, price prediction, Bitcoin could surge to 300% to 120,000 next year. And the reason for that is miners reducing token sales. Look at that in a second. So Bitcoin may be prime for 120,000. This is by Standard Chartered Analyst Jeff Kendrick. He also expects Bitcoin to jump 67% this year to $50,000. His more bullish stances due to increased mining profitability. What he's talking about is Bitcoin miners, their rigs, their cards, it's not just about Bitcoin mine. They can do other things. And they're going to generate revenues. They don't have to sell Bitcoin. That's the big thing. This reminded me of an article a couple of days ago about how they are pivoting. And what are they doing as an example was Hut 8, Bitcoin mining company in Alberta, Canada, and Texas. Great example. It has a high capacity computing infrastructure. They recently signed a contract to provide high performance computing or HPC for clients in Canada's health center, mostly just crunching data, spitting out some numbers, doing a lot of high, like I said, high conditioning work to generate or extrapolate some kind of data, mostly seen in research. And it states here it's more about access to the facilities and the people who know the business. Cooling, for example, is important in any high capacity computing environment. In both Bitcoin mining and HPC, they all have to be set up. And to further expand this point, this is from Newswire. And Hut 8, they have five centers in BC and Ontario. They deal with co-location. Many of you can rent these things out. If they do public and private cloud, which makes sense, they have a bunch of computers, might as well be able to do cloud storage, manage service to government, private sector nonprofits across a variety of industries, including finance, gaming, tech, AI, and more. And they're all going to need those chips, right? That's why NVIDIA blew up. So you would think that this would be spot on. Well, not so fast. So this was a tweet from Dylan Leclerc. And he talks about, in the last 30 days, cumulative, we've seen a massive amount of miners throwing their Bitcoin to exchanges. As far as cumulative, you're looking at 70,850 in the last 30 days. Now, again, this is not in one day. This is cumulative in 30 days. And we can actually verify that from other sectors, crypto-quants, you can go over there and check it out and say, well, not the all, let's do a last month or so. And you can see that, yeah, we've got 1,000 here, 3,000 there, so on and so forth. We look over the last year, a little bit of a big block lately, as miners are transferring them to exchanges, meaning they're probably going to sell. Couldn't be all the times, but that's what we have. So would this, could we say that Bitcoin miners are still pivoting for other things? Maybe. But right now, maybe they've got to make some profits. So take all the information that we say with a grain of salt and just be aware of what's going on. And that's it for today. So look, like today's video, give it a thumbs up, consider subscribing. Everything we talk about is time-sensitive, so it might behoove you to get your news from somebody. If it's not me, just pick somebody. And that's it. But thanks so much for stopping by. I do appreciate it. And I'll see you on the next one.


Hey friends today Disney Springs has invited me out to show you guys some of the amazing food and drink offerings for the flavors of Florida event I am so excited to try some nifty foods and also drink some fancy drinks because the pictures of these items make everything look So bright and merry and I'm just pumped any hoos. Let's go do this It's not an official event went out a guide So I picked up the Disney Springs flavors of Florida event guide July 6th to the 12th And just about every single place in Disney Springs is participating So everything has a little bit of something to offer and we're gonna go around and try some places I've never even been before so I'm excited Disney Springs is so huge and I can't believe that there's places that I've never been to before I've come here hundreds of times and it's interesting and that's what we're gonna do today Is because we're gonna try to go to the places that I don't visit that often whenever I do come to the springs and see What kind of food items they have for the flavors of Florida event? First place I'm stopping at is marketplace snacks now. I have come here before I've gotten items, but they have something that I could not pass up on and of course it has to do with the Dole whip Holy moly take a look at this It is a watermelon with watermelon dole whip inside and then chocolate chips. This is like art. This is art. I Can't even believe this actually exists. I can't wait to try the watermelon dole whip. All right. I'm going in here Why is that so good? Oh my lord, how do I get to the watermelon so this is amazing? This melts pretty quickly this used to be a TikTok exclusive But now they actually have it on the cover. So now we're gonna grab a little bit of watermelon with that. Oh, yeah That's the good stuff right there. I Cannot wait to try the watermelon with the dole whip That Might be my new favorite dole whip dessert. Wow, it's so refreshing the watermelon is just amazing Wow, I think I can do without the chocolate chips I don't think it adds much flavor to it and it's only six dollars for this and it's pretty big Like do you see how they have like the big chunk of watermelon? It's full in the middle So it's kind of like a watermelon dole whip sandwich. I like that Once you do actually eat most of the dole whip off of it You can start eating it with your hands But I highly suggest you do it with a spoon first. Now I can take bites out of it like no problem I have never been so excited for like a dole whip now the marketplace always has amazing Dole whip like creations like they have dole whip nachos here that I remember getting I think that's the only other time I've ever eaten something from here, but now I think I have to keep an eye on what's here Okay revelation here once all of the watermelon dole whip melts That is when it's best because the watermelon kind of soaks up that like flavor So it's like a doubly watermelon flavor My mom loves watermelon. So she's coming down here soon. I'm gonna bring her to get this because I think it's just amazing Right behind marketplace snacks They have dog side margaritas and they're taking part in the flavors of Florida and they have a chapote pineapple margarita I'm not too sure if I'm ready for this right now So I'm not gonna be able to get it but take a look at this skewer in there. That looks phenomenal It's got a chili salt rim and you can actually just hang out here and listen to music I'm gonna pull out my map and I'm gonna try to find some places that I haven't been to you before Docside margaritas. I actually go to a lot. I really love the vibe there But I wanted to try some new places that I've never had before so luckily We got the map that shows us what they're offering and gives you pictures too because that's how I found out about the watermelon Right there. It is the watermelon dole whip see I seen that picture and I was like, okay That's where I'm gonna start so I'm gonna look through this menu here and it's big like I'm gonna try to wave it open Look at me try to wave it open flappy flap. There we go. Lots of places. I Just did a video here Maybe about a week and a half ago and I came to Amorettes and they had the boozy eclair That was actually a part of the flavors of Florida festival But I wasn't doing a video on that alone that day, but I really wanted to try it So if you want to see that you can check out that video today, like I said, it's more about just items exclusively for the flavors of Florida Speaking of places. I've never been before Aaron McKinnon's bakery in New York City. I've never been here before and they have an orange blossom cupcake Full of orange zest and pizzazz vegan gluten-free and kosher and I think I'm going for it I've never eaten anything from inside here. So any time I got a cupcake, it was normally from sprinkles If any of you have eaten before let me know which ones you Prefer do you prefer sprinkles cupcakes at Disney Springs or Aaron McKinnon's bakery here? I've never had this one before so I can't say but let me know in the comments, which one you think is better It's actually really cute in here and it says bakery rules a bakery free from harmful ingredients and cute uniforms But take a look at all of those snacks in there Everything looks amazing doesn't it? Wow, they have thin mint brownies Unfortunately, it looks like the cupcake is sold out. It's only three o'clock. So that means the cupcake must be very popular I really like the inside of that restaurant. Well bakery and yeah, maybe I'll have to stop back But like I said if it's selling out that means it's a popular item Here is a look at it again, but wow now I really want to know what it tastes like I want to know what love is. I want you to show me That's okay. Aaron McKinnon's isn't the only place I haven't been before at Disney Springs I have not been to Paradiso 37 and they have two items there. So we're gonna actually go check that out. I Don't think I've ever eaten anything in here now I think they're probably just desserts and most definitely a margarita, but we're gonna find out This place is actually really fancy and I'm liking all the artwork in here. It kind of reminds me of Disney Springs I have walked past this restaurant several of times and I never came in actually so it's really nice to see the inside Oh, you know what? I think I did dine here once just like a long long time ago And I don't think I ate I think I joined up with some friends that were sitting here So I guess this is gonna be my first time Instead of eating inside at the side of the eat outside because it's a beautiful day out the skies are blue And you can just see amazing views of all of Disney Springs from the little outside eating area here You get to see all of Disney Springs from here wine bar George the hangar bar the sassu gula boat works And then of course the beautiful water view we can even see the boathouse and hot air balloon What characters in flight if it actually goes up? So I'm happy to be sitting out here and just take a look at what they have to offer Holy moly first. This is the margarita and then an orange cake this orange cake looks Probably the best cake I've ever seen look at that for some reason. I just think carrot Not like a carrot carrot, but Chocolate carrot. I know Grichardot's chocolates used to actually have like a chocolate carrot But it was orange chocolate and like white chocolate was very good So first I'm gonna try the blood orange margarita and I'm pretty sure yeah It's so it's a tequila blood orange tequila Fresh lime juice and then a splash of agave nectar and it looks so amazing Funny though is when you actually order it They ask you if you want a big or a small and I took the small and look at the size of this. Oh boy Well, that's good. Oh That is good, but it's also very strong very very strong I'm happy. I got the small because the large probably would have done a doozy on me here. Oh Yeah, you could definitely taste the tequila And here is the Florida sunshine orange cake sweet Florida orange layer cake iced with a decadent white chocolate frosting Oh boy, I can't wait to I don't know. I want to I don't want to break it because it's so pretty All right, we're gonna go right here. Oh Wow that just pulls apart Fantastic, and they also give you a little orange zest on the side there You know what's really funny is I didn't know they had an orange cake here And one of the things I wanted to do was giddy in because they have huge cakes like that I've never tried before and I was hoping maybe they had like a flavorful Florida cake, so I might be eating two cakes today. Oh boy.  I feel very fancy Sitting out here just listening to music is really giving me like summer vibes right now It's so beautiful. I like how they put little flowers on all the tables paradise. So 37 seems like a really nice spot I might come back here and maybe do like a full dining review. I'd like to try some of their actual food food Now it's time to move along that margarita was amazing definitely a little bit heavy on the tequila I mean, it's a margarita. What would you expect? But the cake the cake was phenomenal I'm not too sure how it compares to Gideons because I've never had Gideon's cake slices So if they actually have a cake at Gideon's, I probably will try it I'll get us to try it. I don't know if I can eat it all because that's a that was a big piece of cake already But yeah, we got to see if they actually do have one or not We also have to see if we can get in or if they're sold out because you never know actually Well, it looks like they have a cake and a cookie But there's no way to actually get in so I'm gonna actually hop in now And it looks like the cake is a chocolate chip key lime pie cookie and then a key lime pie cake So I think I might get the cookie but take it with me to go because I want to get something to eat like food Food since I just had a dessert, you know what I mean? So we'll grab it take it to go and then have it for dessert at another place make sense. I Also like how it's a little mermaid on the front now and on the back it says flavors of Florida And that's it the chocolate chip key lime pie cookie. That's the one we're going for they also have the key lime pie cake But we said a cake. I haven't been in here in such a long time. Thank you Oh, yeah, it's very fancy It is so cool in here I love it I might actually get a coffee too. I don't think I've ever got the coffee in here The only time I've ever gotten anything from here was when it first opened I ended up getting one cookie and they ran out of coffee so I might get a coffee and a cookie for later. I Love seeing all the different characters on the walls here.  This is the key lime pie cake, which looks amazing I wish I got this instead of the orange one, but I'm just gonna get myself a cookie I don't know where the cookies at should be here. Oh, yeah, right here. It is the key lime chocolate chip cookie limited edition You Now I got my cookie and my coffee and this coffee is absolutely amazing I feel like I say absolutely amazing a lot, but it's delicious. It's fun. It's great. It's fancy There's so many different ways I can describe things, but Absolutely amazing sounds perfect to me. I would definitely get it again. I haven't tried the peanut butter one This is just a classic and it's refreshing. I needed it after that margarita And I'm gonna carry my cookie around with me, this is a heavy sucker right here I'm so excited to try this but I can't do it right now. I gotta get some food food in me I might actually have a great idea. I might just hold off and not eat this until I get home Stop and grab a cupcake from Sprinkles to give to Gracie so that way we can have dessert together We get home and we'll show you but right now I think I found a spot that I can get some of the eat that has some of the flavors of Florida items And I'm excited because it's kind of a favorite of mine The good old polite pig has got some Shrimping grits for the flavors of Florida and I do love me some shrimp now. It depends on the grits But we're gonna give it a go. We're gonna test it out and see what it's like Oh my lord take a look at that coffee rubbed brisket right there That is the stuff can I tell you this is my favorite quick service restaurant in all of Disney World Captain Cook's at the Polynesian is a close second and then Port Orleans, but that's technically not open right now. So this is it the best quick service in all of Walt Disney World It's really hard not to get like my usual whatever I come here like ribs or brisket and It's all about the flavors of Florida today So I did get the shrimp and grits because that's what they have listed on the little menu itself And I'm excited it's $24 though. So it's not like a sample. This is a full meal meal and Yeah, I can go for some good old shrimp. I'm not too sure about the grits like I said sometimes I like grits sometimes I don't so we'll just how see how these ones actually play out And holy moly here it is at first I was a little skeptical here because I was saying it's $24 and it's just shrimp and grits, but look at the size of those shrimps. They're huge And I love how they come on this fewer. Oh Wow, and then there's a pineapple glaze on there. This is gonna be absolutely amazing Oh, yeah, there it is the absolutely amazing and take a look at the grits They look nice and creamy and there's cheddar in there I believe as well and then it comes a coleslaw and cornbread. This is gonna be a very very good dish I already know.   So I don't know what to do I think I'm gonna I'm gonna try to pull one off first. I hopefully it comes right off Let's see. Oh There it is. Okay. All right. Look at that Holy moly. Oh, I love me some shrimp. All right. Here we go Paul light pig does not disappoint Such amazing shrimp. I can't believe it's smoky shrimp like one thing I love about polite pig is everything tastes like smoky It has that smoke flavor to it. I mean, it's it's a barbecue. It's a modern barbecue restaurant And I love it. I love how things have a smoky taste to them and that pineapple glaze is phenomenal Seriously, one of the best shrimps. I think I've ever had. Oh, yeah You get a better look at it from this side because there's no glaze on the back just on the front and oh Just so good. Honestly. I'm so happy. I got it now I gotta try the grits like I said, those are what I'm a little bit hesitant about That's just not you know, it depends like I said, I'm not too big fond of the cheddar grits I already know that there's cheese inside them, but sometimes you can't taste the cheese at all. So we'll find out here That's not bad at all and you get a little bit of that pineapple glaze in there, too. Yeah, I like these grits Preferably if they let you switch out the side that would be good because then you can get like Brussels sprouts or waffle fries But stripping grits kind of just go together Everything else you get like, you know a brisket or a rib meal you get to choose your sides But this is just one package and I don't think coleslaw counts as a side I think that's more of a garnish and everyone gets corn bread This is just so good and I always and it just makes me more and more Confident saying that the boy pig is my favorite quick service restaurant I don't even think they can call this a quick service restaurant Even though it is like this is some high-class stuff here.  Maybe I'm just not getting the right shrimp from my places I need to find myself a new shrimp guy, but anyways I really liked it polite pig never disappoints and now I got my cookie I get to take it home and I'm gonna hang out with gracey. Oh, I actually have to get gracey or cupcake though Gracey is a really dainty eater, but she loves the cupcakes from sprinkles I don't know why so now every time I come down here I want to get her some and then take it back to her so she can enjoy a little snacky pool I wonder if we should go inside or if we should use the atm I don't know if they've got the dog cupcakes in the sprinkles atm. We'll find out here See if you can see the screen here. All right touch No, I don't see a little pup. No, no puppy. Let's see scroll down a little bit more Oh, no looks like we have to go inside even though I really do like This atm. It's really fun. It actually puts the cupcake right here for you Oh the ac feels amazing in here and it smells so good I wonder why they didn't participate in the flavorful florida food event looks like they just have all their regulars here Gracey's got her cupcakes right here And I've got my cookie. So now we're gonna head home and have a little dessert a little bit later on And I think Grace is gonna be super happy doggies love cupcakes too and they sell them in three packs or individual The three pack I think was uh nine dollars. So that's not too bad You know, I'll give her one today one tomorrow and then probably the day after You know, I don't know if I can give her too many uh, so much. They don't give you ingredients. Oh, they do give you ingredients You've been a good girl, huh? You've been a good girl. You want this? You want this? A little cupcake a cupcake for Gracey Oh, I'm trying to get another bag here.  Okay, I'm gonna take it out of the wrapper There we go There you go Where you gonna take it? Is it good? Yes, daddy's really good You got cupcake crumbs all over the carpet though. There you go. Clean them up. That's the way She's so adorable.  I'm having something at home I always feed Gracey something but she always comes after my food always So now I'm gonna have my Gideon's cookie It's been a couple hours and I can go for a nice little cookie and it looked amazing like it was fantastic I can't wait to see what it tastes like I hope it didn't melt oh Oh, it did melt a little bit the chocolate melted a little bit. Oh, holy moly Oh, but look at that Doesn't that look amazing? Oh, wow. What are these the chunks of the cookies right here? Ooh It just fell apart a little bit there One of the things that I noticed is they had chocolate chips on most of the desserts And it was like watermelon key lime and orange and I didn't know that was a thing You know what I mean? I feel like the chocolate chips can go without But now I'm gonna try to bite this cookie but not get chocolate all over me It is a big big mess I suggest if you get the cookies to eat them away or maybe In the box, they probably hold a little bit better because this is a paper. I got an individual cookie That's why it's maybe melty or because it's like 90 degrees out. I don't know You know, it's kind of strange because it tastes just like a chocolate chip cookie But then also like they just put key lime pie crust and mixed it in the dough because You can taste just the chocolate chip cookie and then the key lime and it's definitely unique It's not something you would normally taste especially when you bite into a cookie Gracie definitely can't have this She can only have dog food or food made for dogs chocolate. It's no good for dogs. I know that She still tries though. Oh, wow. It's so soft. It's like falling apart. Holy moly Yeah, that's what I'm talking about when you get to the middle. That's where it's at. It's kind of like a cookie brownie almost Okay, that's a lot better I can't believe she didn't even pick up her own cupcake wrapper Just left the garbage there for me ate all the cupcake left and then left their mess laying around Anyways, I think that's gonna do it for me. Cookie is delicious Gracie like their cupcake I'm home. I'm gonna have to edit this video now and it was such a fun day. You know what I mean? I absolutely loved just going to hang out Disney Springs try some new food I want to get to uh Aaron McKendon's bakery. I would love to try one of the cupcakes from there I probably should have got something even though they didn't have the flavors of florida But I'll go back. We'll definitely check it out And thank you Disney for uh inviting me out. They gave me a gift card that I actually bought all this Food with you know what I mean? So uh, thank you to them. They wanted me to show you it and I absolutely loved it The watermelon was my favorite definitely by by far the watermelon Dull whip was amazing. Anyways, I hope you enjoyed the video. I enjoyed making it. We'll see you next time Bye


When the narcissist finally hovers you when the narcissist finally comes back to you They are expecting you to be hopeful They are expecting you to have a feeling of expectation or desire For a particular thing to happen. They are expecting you to be hopeful That they might help or save you They want you to think that there is something for you to hold on to They do this to direct a great deal of your attention, interest or activity Towards them. They want you to be attentive They want you to be focusing on them. They might refuse to take notice of you Refuse to acknowledge you Disregard you initially It makes them feel as though they are something significant and powerful It makes them feel special and important Desirable and attractive But once these feelings begin to fade away And the effects of this are no longer as potent as they initially were The narcissist begins to feel small again They begin to feel worthless and insignificant An important, undesirable and attractive Because they are no longer receiving any attention from you You are no longer attending to them. This is when they know that they need to re-engage They need to attract your attention or involvement again They need to get you to participate or become involved with them again This is when the narcissist finally hovers you They might say sweet or kind things to you These are all intended to re-establish the emotional connection that you have you once had with them They want you to think that they are still interested in you But it's just another tactic It's just an action or strategy Carefully plan to achieve a specific end They want to keep you interested in them Keep you hoping Keep you expecting and desiring That maybe they do have the capacity to develop something in the future Maybe they do have the developed qualities and abilities To lead to future success or usefulness Because they already know exactly how you expect and desire them to be How you want them to behave with you, but they are not going to act in any way that you would like They are always going to do the opposite of whatever you expect or desire from them Because they are trying to control you They are trying to influence and direct your behavior and the course of events That doesn't mean that they don't share the same or similar desires or interests But for them to be able to control you They will have to restrict certain activities They will have to restrain their own emotions or actions This is necessary for them to maintain influence and authority over you When the narcissist finally hoovies you It is to get you to break no contact with them It is to get you to abandon everything you were standing for and give into your desire or impulse It is designed to get you to renounce your practice of no contact The narcissist might give you some time to yourself Especially if you appear to be angry towards them They might wait until you are more relaxed and then they will come back They will say sweet or kind things to you Bring you flowers or chocolates To make it seem like they care or that they are sorry Different narcissists will do different things Depending on what has worked for them in the past and depending on what you like or prefer It's emotional manipulation And it is designed to change your behavior and perception Through indirect deceptive or underhanded tactics The narcissist advances their interests at your expense In a way that might be considered exploitative or devious They want to see if you are still interested in them They want to see how much they are able to control you How much they are able to affect you Emotionally detach or disconnect from the narcissist Take away the hope of desiring Or expecting anything from them They are dependent on your feelings of hope to be able to emotionally manipulate you To pull you back into their world They are dependent on your emotional reactions of wanting and needing them if you don't respond positively to them They will punish you They will use passive aggression Expressing their negative feelings, resentment and aggression in an unassertive way They will ignore you and give you the silent treatment This is meant to confuse you and make you feel as though you have done something wrong or you need to respond differently to them Regardless of how they have treated you They will act as though they are no one will get interested in you And they will refrain from being around you as a form of punishment But then they will come back and it's supposed to send a message to you That if you do not respond positively to them next time or in the way that they would like They will make it longer and make you suffer The disinterest is meant to punish you for not validating in their false self For not seeing them as the powerful significant Desirable and attractive person that they believe they are But of course This is only on the surface Their false self was created as a way of coping and defending Against their feelings of worthlessness and insignificance The narcissist needs you to validate their false self at all times Or else they feel small They feel as though they don't exist As though they're not important or significant They feel like they are dying Like they are fading away If you don't validate them They will blame you They will become hateful and resentful towards you In their minds you have done something to make them feel that way So they will act disinterested towards you Until you finally give in and validate their false selves And that is what their Hoover attempt is designed to do It is designed to bait you in and trick you into validating their false self and making them feel as though they exist Thank you for watching I hope this video resonated with you. 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of the hour. We're a little over the top of the earth. That's okay. So hello everyone and welcome welcome to the November NASA Night Sky Network member webinar where you're hosting tonight's webinar from the Astronomical Society of the Pacific in San Francisco, California. And we are very excited to welcome our guest speaker Dr. Travis Fisher from the Space Science Telescope Institute. But before we get a little further into our introductions here is Vivian White with some announcements. Hey, all right. It's great to see everyone out there. Such a good crew tonight. We have a lot of you and I am thrilled to announce that the pins have arrived and this is all cat. As many of you know cats just joined the team this year and she is earning her keep. Check out. Do you want to show them the pins? I do. So we did we did something a little bit different with the pins this year. I know traditionally we have our two astronomers that point up at the object in the night sky. But and let me know if you all can see this. This is going to be our annual and total solar eclipse pin for 2023 to celebrate everyone that has participated and had events this year. So make sure you tell your coordinators if you are not a coordinator yourself or if you are a coordinator, make sure you tell everyone to go ahead and fill out that form so that you all can get your pins this year. Awesome. I'm just adding some links to the chat. If your club is active in the night sky network, that is you have reported on five events in the last year or two in the last quarter that qualifies you to receive three free. And we will you can also order more if you want for just the price of shipping basically. And if you're not active, it's really easy to get active. I'm just adding these to the chat here. And as a bonus, if you post 10 upcoming events for 2024 on the 2024 calendar, we will go ahead and send you some extra glasses this year. Look out, is there a feedback somewhere? Sorry, I've got something going on. I hear you now. You're fine. Awesome. Great. So make sure to post your upcoming events on the NSN calendar. If you have any questions, I'll put a link in how to do that as well. Kat's got some office hours coming up on Tuesdays and Fridays. I'll put that link in the chat. And then for those of you who have not yet gotten the Eclipse Ambassadors spiel, we are really excited. We have about 550 Eclipse Ambassadors across the country. We're working on a couple hundred more.  If you're going, we'd love to have you and keep an eye out for the link to that. One more. Kat, is you, I think? Yes. So NASA is looking for folks that will help them livestream the Eclipse for April 8th. And if you happen to live in any of these four regions that I'm about to paste in the chat, Dallas, Texas, Indianapolis, Indiana, Niagara Falls, New York, and Holton, Maine, we would love it if you applied to be a live streamer and to contribute to the broadcast. You can go ahead and fill out the form, and it'll ask you some questions about what kind of equipment you have. If you're interested, and do you have a white light filter? Do you have a hydrogen alpha? Do you have a calcium filter? If you are in this area or you're willing to go to this area, then please go ahead and fill out the form, and they'll get in touch with you, and then I'm on those emails as well, and we'll coordinate so that we can broadcast the Eclipse to everyone globally, April 8th. Awesome. Great. All right. All right. So without further ado, let's go ahead and get back into it. This is the November NASA Night Sky Network webinar, and as always, you can send an email to us anytime at nightskyinfo at astrophsociety.org. And if you have any questions for our guest speaker, please submit them into the Q&A window and not the chat window so that we make sure that we see your questions and they don't get lost in the standard chat. This evening, NASA Night Sky Network welcomes Dr. Travis Fisher to our webinar on active galaxies, monsters of the deep space. Joining the Space Science Telescope Institute in 2020 as an ESA aura astronomer, Dr. Travis Fisher provides support for the cosmic origins spectrograph aboard the Hubble Space Telescope and acts as a lead for communications and testing on the Hubble Advanced Spectral Product, or HAASP program. He previously served as a research facility through both George Mason University and the United States Naval Observatory and the Catholic University of America at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center. Before this, he was a James Webb Space Telescope NASA postdoctoral program fellow, and he continues to pursue an active research career studying active galactic nuclei, their influence on host galaxies they reside in and analyzing the integral field unit. Please welcome Dr. Travis Fisher. Wow. Thank you so much, Kat. Wow, what a wonderful introduction. All right. Hey, everybody. I'm going to share a screen here and we're going to start a talk here. Where's the talk? There's the talk. Great. All right. So yes, we're here today. We're going to be talking about active galaxies, monsters of the deep space. And so I'm not really sure what the level of comfortability is with active galaxies, what exactly they are. So we're just going to start basic level here and this talk about what are galaxies, right? Very simple start off point here. So galaxies are clusters of stars, billions and billions of stars that are held together by gravity. All right. So we do have these active supermassive black holes there or quiescent supermassive black holes in the centers of them, but that's not what's binding them into these galaxies. It's the stars themselves that are spinning around and being bound by gravity. In between all of the stars is mostly space. These are nearby images of nearby galaxies and we can see there's a lot of individual space between all these individual pixels of light that are stars here. And so we also live in a galaxy. Our solar system is in a galaxy. We call it that galaxy, the Milky Way. And so our galaxy looks a lot different from everybody else because we live in it. So that picture above on the top is the view that we see when we're looking at the night sky. Everybody, all the amateur astronomers, I'm sure are very familiar with that kind of view. And then on the bottom here is a top down cartoon then of what we think the setup of the Milky Way galaxy looks like down to the positions of the spiral arms that are within it. So the image that you see on the top then is not just a look forward into the center of the galaxy, but it's a 360 view. So we can kind of see that we can spin around and look in a 360 around the Milky Way galaxy. And that's what you're seeing across these images that are often on posters of the Milky Way galaxy that we live in. So in most, if not all galaxies at the very center resides a supermassive black hole. Here's a picture of ours. This is Sagittarius A star.  And we're sure, yes, that pretty much every single one of the galaxies has one of these. And so what is a black hole? That's really the next question then if we're moving from galaxies down to the active parts that we're going to talk about the black holes then. So more importantly, what isn't a black hole?  It's not a portal. It's not a time rift into another dimension. All right. It's not going to be any sort of tear in the fabric of space time, at least in the sense when we're trying to understand physics and how the universe works, we do not understand it to be a tear in time. Instead, we say that a black hole is an object. Black holes are objects just like anything that you would expect to observe in the rest of the universe, be it a planet or a satellite or a horse or a gallon of milk. Black holes are objects just like anything else that you're familiar with. And the only thing that's really different between a black hole and any other object is that they're extremely compact. And so what do I mean by this? So this is a star. This is a massive star, an A type star. This is eight times the mass of our sun. And when it reaches the end of its lifetime, it's going to explode. It's going to have a really bad day. And at the end, it's going to form a black hole. And this black hole, which has a similar mass to what it was before it exploded, is now about the size of Rhode Island.  So it's super small. On the other hand, we have the other flavor of black hole, and that's the supermassive black hole. And so in comparison, here is a scale representation of our sun. And then Sagittarius A star lurking behind it. And so while it is only 18 suns in diameter, the mass inside of Sagittarius A star is more than four million times that of the sun. So you can tell them that this must be a super compact object to only be an order of magnitude larger in diameter, but six orders of magnitude larger in mass. And then to bring that kind of back to where we just were, so there's Sagittarius A star, there's the sun, here is going to be Earth right down there, that pixel that flashed.   So the next question is are black holes dangerous?  And so before I answer that, I posit these other questions like is swimming with a shark dangerous? Yes, we don't do that. That's a bad idea. Instead, what we do is we place ourselves in a cage far away and observe the shark safely. And then we have a good time. Likewise, when we're observing volcanoes, we do not sit on the volcano while it's erupting. You're going to have a bad time.  However, if we do want to study a volcano while it's erupting, we place ourselves at a safe distance away from the volcano. We're able to observe what's happening and we are safe. And I think you can see where we're going with that. If we're trying to observe a black hole, we do not go in the black hole.   However, if we're here on earth at a safe distance away from a black hole, there is no danger in studying that black hole. And we are going to be safe and sound, and nothing is going to happen to us.   But we need to remember that they are just objects, just like anything else. So here's a little mind experiment for us. If we took the solar system that we have, that there's earth and the other seven planets, and we took out the sun and we replaced it with a black hole of equal mass, all right? So the black hole is going to have the mass of one solar mass unit. Everything's going to be fine.   It's all about gravity. However, I mean, we are losing the solar radiation and not being warmed by the sun.  But that's a different problem for a different talk. So we don't have to worry about that. So how do black holes work then when people say Dr. Fisher, but light can't even escape from a black hole? How does that work? So this is the only equation I think I'm going to show tonight. And so this is just saying that the escape velocity off the surface of some structure, be it earth or a black hole, is approximately equal to the mass of the object you're trying to escape, divided by the distance you are from the center of that object. So when you're trying to escape from earth, you're going to use one earth radius and you're going to use the mass of earth. And that comes down to an escape velocity then of 11.2 kilometers per second. I don't really understand what that means with my American human brain. So I just say that's as fast as a rocket travels.  But it's approximately that fast and you're able to leave the surface of the planet. However, if we replace earth with a black hole, boom. And it's going to now have the same mass that we started with. It's one earth mass. But now if it's a black hole, the radius of that black hole is going to be about the size of a ping pong ball. So if you do the calculation again, then the escape velocity, if you use the mass of earth, and the distance is one ping pong ball, the required velocity to escape this black hole is a trillion kilometers per second. Again, unfathomable, I can't understand how fast that is, but we can put it in maybe the terms of the speed of light. And it has to be traveling over 3000 times the speed of light. So that means that a photon, which travels the speed of light, the fastest thing that we know in the universe, still isn't traveling fast enough to escape the gravitational pull of a black hole. And that's why photons don't escape from a black hole either. So it's about brevity once again. So here is an idea of what happens then when we do have a collision course. Go animation. Go animation. Are you guys seeing that? Is it moving for you? It's the text is moving. Oh, man. There we go. I know there was another one. Okay. So it's okay. We're going to be pressed for time anyways.    And it gives off tons of radiation, not just heat, it's going to give off ultraviolet and x-ray and gamma rays, tons of radiation. And when we have this event where we have a black hole accreting this material, eating this material and having it fall in, we call that an active galactic nucleus or an AGN. And that's what we're going to be talking about tonight then, AGN activities. So when you have all this mission coming out of a black hole, exactly how much energy is coming out. I mean, these AGN are extremely energetic if we're emitting ultraviolet and optical and infrared, but ultraviolet, x-ray, gamma rays, all these very energetic photons. What is that really doing to the surrounding neighborhood?  And so I did a calculation just for a nearby one. And so if we imagined that every grain of sand on Earth was an atomic bomb and we set them off at the same time, that's not enough energy to recreate the energy coming out of this nearby active galactic nucleus. What we need to do is clone Earth 160,000 times, take all of their grains of sand and turn them into atomic bombs and then we detonate them at the same time. And that's how much energy you're getting out of a active galactic nucleus per second. It's crazy how much energy is coming out of these things. You can barely fathom how much energy is coming out of these supermassive black holes. So what does this energy do?  So what I like to look at is ionized gas. And so here's a picture from, excuse me, the TV show Chernobyl, spoiler alert. There's a nuclear reactor that explodes. And so what they see in this picture, all these folks on this bridge are looking at radiation coming from the broken reactor, flooding above it. And it's ionizing, it's frying the air molecules that are above the reactor. And I think that they made it blue. I don't know if it was necessarily blue, but I think it was blue because that's the color of hydrogen, I'm sorry, nitrogen. When you ionize nitrogen, you see predominantly blue and that's the most abundant element in the atmosphere. So you see this blue light. So you have this source of very energetic particles that's running out into gas air and it's stripping electrons off of that gas and what we call ionization. So that same process is what we see happening in AGN. So here's an AGN's NGC 7582. And we can look at some observations that we typically take of AGN these days. And this is using an integral field unit. So what you do is essentially you take a picture of the galaxy that you're interested in and at every individual pixel, you get a spectrum. And from that spectrum, you can figure out how the gas inside this galaxy is moving. So we can see that the ionized gas then here is kind of creating, excuse me, this biconical structure, this flashlight of doom almost. And so the radiation is flooding out from above and below that supermassive black hole and it's running into the host material there and it's frying it in this kind of like biconical structure here. And so we can see the illumination of the massively powerful radiation coming from this supermassive black hole. And so we can map where the gas is, but we can also, oh gosh, all right, we're going to talk about the Doppler effect real quick. Sorry, I forgot that I had these in here. So the Doppler effect, I mean, if everybody, if you're not familiar with what that means is that we have sound or light coming from an object. And if it's not moving, we assume that the sound and or light that is in front of it is going to be the same frequency for sound as it is behind it. However, if we have this ambulance moving towards somebody, they're going to be receiving a higher frequency sound than the folks that the ambulance is moving away from. So the same thing then happens for light. So we use light and we know what color the light should be from an emission line an ionized gas emission line. And so if it wasn't moving, everybody would be observing the the color of this emission line to be the same. However, if that gas is traveling toward or away from us, we're going to have the wavelength of that photon change and be stretched out or compressed due to the Doppler effect. So if the gas is traveling toward us, it's going to have a shorter wavelength that's going to appear slightly bluer. And if it's traveling away from us, the wavelength stretches out and it's going to appear slightly redder. Does it mean that it's literally blue or red? No, it just means that the wavelength is just going to be a little bit shorter or a little bit longer. And we use the terms bluer or redder to talk about the the extent of these wavelengths sizes. So coming back to our data here, then if we take our picture and we get a spectrum of each individual pixel and we measure the Doppler shift of each of the emission lines we're looking at, we can see that most of the gas in this galaxy is in rotation.  And on the upper left hand corner, it's red shifted, it's rotating away from us. So most of the gas, this is probably an HL from map, is in rotation. However, if we look at the ionized gas, this is oxygen three, it's ionized twice. We can see that go. The ionized gas here is not doing rotation at all, but it's actually traveling radially, which means going away from the radius in a straight line, blue shifted toward us above to the upper right, and then red shifted down and away from us. It's driven away from us to the lower left and driven toward us in the upper right. And so what's kind of happening here is the gas is being driven out of the plane of the galaxy and it's kind of creating that splash along the hard, more dense material, not hard, but more dense material of the galaxy. So if you can imagine like the little mermaid when Ariel's on the rock and she's singing, and that splash comes up behind her and the water is creating like that splash effect, that's the same thing that's happening then with this gas. The gas is being driven into and up along the dense parts of the galaxy and creating that splash effect that we're seeing here. So this gas then that we're seeing traveling, the Doppler shift is traveling very fast. The slower outflow velocities that we look at are around 300 kilometers per second. Again, doesn't make sense to me. That's around 600,000 miles an hour. What that really means is that you could drive on the highway from Seattle to Miami expecting no traffic and get to Miami in 17.7 seconds or about the time it takes for that animation to complete. So that's how fast this gas is traveling on a very low energy day. Sometimes it's traveling an order of magnitude faster than that. So what I want to kind of come up with this idea then is that there's so these AGM create these beautiful structures that we look at that are so gorgeous with their lit up light and we're like, wow, nature's amazing. It's so gorgeous out there. But if you're living in it, you're having a horrible time. There's winds that are traveling hundreds of thousands of miles per hour and you're flying, you're getting radias, you're getting radiation damage and you're having a horrible time. So it's crazy how we as astronomers look at these objects from far away and think, oh, space is so beautiful.  So the next question then talking about AGM is how do AGM affect their galaxies, right? We know they're bad, but we're still trying to really figure out the impact of these AGM on their galaxies. So what we know is that stars form from dense hydrogen gas in nebulae. So here's a picture of the Orion nebula. Here's a little arrow because it's showing us how we're flying through a animation of the Orion nebula then and you had all these dense gas clouds that were able to cool and condense on each other. And eventually there was enough dense material to start fusing the hydrogen together to form stars. And that's how star clusters are formed. So for stars to form, you need cool hydrogen gas to just be chill and hanging out and condensing enough to form stars. And so what we think is happening is that AGM affects how that gas is allowed to form stars. So we think that AGM have what's called a feedback process that shows two forms of feedback. The first form is a preventative form of star formation, a negative feedback scenario. So I have a cartoon here on the right, then I thought made sense comparing to what's going on in these active galaxies where you have you turn on the faucet and the water's hitting the sink and the water goes out everywhere out to a certain distance. And so at the small radii here, you're able to effectively drive material away from the center and you're removing water or star forming gas at the smaller radii. At larger radii, you're no longer able to remove gas and or water in this analogy. And it starts to actually pile up here. And so when you're doing that, what you potentially could be doing is pushing the gas together and promoting star formation. And so this would be a positive feedback scenario where we're promoting star formation instead of removing the ability to form stars. So there's two different forms of feedback that we're trying to understand that are due to AGM and just how important each of these processes are to galaxies as they evolve over time. So feedback processes are observed at many wavelengths. So I'm used to observing in the optical and in the infrared and also in the radio, but you can see it in the x-ray. And so here's this feedback process that we just looked at in Marcarion 573 that one I just showed next to the sink. And we can split up different emission coming from that source into different wave bands. And each of those wave bands potentially tell us a little bit of a different story that we can put together to come up with an understanding of what's happening in this galaxy. And then if we can see if we can apply that story to other galaxies and start stringing it all together to come up with a cohesive understanding of how AGM feedback works. So what we're going to talk about now moving forward is a little bit about this radio in the middle here, the radio emission. So a curious thing that astronomers have understood is that AGM ionized gas is often aligned with the radio structure that we see in AGM. So here's a couple different AGM and we're going to actually go on a train ride here. We're going to look at a bunch of different AGM that are either imaging or the IFU data. The colors are the ionized gas and the contours are the radio structures. And these are publications by all sorts of people that show the radio contours, the radio emission, the contours are often aligned with the bright ionized gas structures. However, when we think about radio structures in like jets, radio jets, these are in AGM, these are these very rare number of AGM that are very powerful radio structures. And so that's how we were originally introduced to radio signals coming out of active galaxies. And so when we look at these more plentiful aligned sources where the ionized and the radio structure are aligned, are we seeing similar processes that produce the observed radio sources? So this is a project that I did a couple years ago when I was working with the Naval Observatory where we tried to start up this fundamental reference AGM monitoring experiment or frame X. And what we did here is try to understand the position of the nuclear X-ray and radio structures for 25 nearby very bright AGM. And so we had the observations in X-ray, but we needed to get the radio observations using the very long baseline array, which is a series of radio telescopes that range from Hawaii to the Virgin Islands to get very high resolution radio imaging. And so we had to come up with a way to get the exposure times for the VLBA observations. So we used this thing called the fundamental plane, which was found originally by Merlone at all 2003, which shows that there's a relationship between the radio luminosity and on the Y-axis and the X-ray luminosity plus the mass of the supermassive black hole on the X-axis. This is an empirical formula. I mean, there wasn't necessarily an understanding of why this relationship existed. They just found that it worked out pretty well to use as a tool. So we used the VLA fluxes. We used fluxes from a different radio observatory, the VLA, to kind of underestimate what we would be seeing with the VLBA using this fundamental plane. So however, when we tried to get the detections and using the VLBA, the fluxes dropped off or didn't even show up for a majority of our sample. And so we weren't really sure what was going on with this problem. Did our observations mess up? Did we screw up somehow? And so what we found was that targets with extended radio sources in the VLA, so the VLA observations are kind of a lower resolution, bigger structure imaging observatory. And we saw that objects with larger or more extended VLA flux had a bigger discrepancy between their VLA and the VLBA peak nuclear fluxes. And I realized I didn't share this 2021 paper with Cat and Vivian. So I'll share that with them for you guys to take a look at later. But what we think is happening then is that the radio structures are likely coming from an interaction between or that there's more interaction around the nucleus for these extended structures than there are for the ones that are compact. And here's an example that like for NGC 1068, this one's spectacular AGN, like the brightest peak is not even looking at the AGN from the VLA observations. So this fundamental plane using VLA observations might be a red herring for folks. And so we just wanted to make people aware of that. And then we were trying to understand if this relationship then between the the flux differences between VLA and VLBA would be because it's due to a jet orientation effect. However, we see that if this was a jet, we would expect the peak measurements between VLA and VLBA to be large for polon orientations. And then if we were looking at the nucleus, then in an edge on orientation, we would expect the difference between VLA and VLBA to be much smaller. And we found that our observations show the inverse of this relationship. So what this probably means is that what we're seeing then is this extended get this extended radio structure is always located in the host galaxy, then if it's always aligned with the O3 gas that we looked at from the imaging before. And this goes against what we're used to in these radio loud AGN, because these radio jets in these radio loud sources aren't related to their host disks at all. They shoot off into space and aren't running into gas lanes or any sort of optical ionized gas structures at all. So we're seeing a different sort of creature then going on for the majority of these radio structures versus these very beautiful large radio jets. And so what we're positing then is that the radio structure that we're seeing in a majority of these AGN is actually not due to a jet, but it's more due to a shock, which is a feedback process when something launched at high velocity, be it a wind or maybe a jet that we're not seeing, runs into a material that is static. It's not really moving like a thick dust lane. And that slamming into it creates this shock of energy. And that produces a radio bubble around it, very similar to what we see in supernova remnants. So this is like three different pictures of supernova remnants below. And so we think what we're seeing is a very similar process. And so to test this, I just compared what we know for jets in active galaxies. This is a known jet that's traveling. There's radio structure here traveling several times the speed of light. And so if we're able to look at that for a nearby galaxy that isn't radio loud isn't, this is that 1068 again, we're able to measure the positions of the radio knots here. And we see that the difference in position over time is actually much smaller than the speed of light. We compared the position of these radio knots over 20 years. And we're seeing that the velocity that would be produced if they were actually traveling are less than 10% of the speed of light. And the 10% is the threshold that you need to create the relativistic state, because that's where you start including your gamma in your physics equations. So anything under 10% the speed of light is moving nonrelativistically. So we're seeing that these things aren't acting like the jets that we're more familiar with in radio structures. And we can then see that this radio structure is also aligned with the dense molecular gas material in the host galaxy as well. So this is creating this idea then that the radio is just another byproduct of the material that's in the AGN surrounding the AGN. So we're going to try to look at it in multiple dimensions here. The pink is cold molecular gas that is observed in the radio from Alma. And from there we can compare that to the hot fried ionized gas of 03 in the green. And we can see that the green is actually like a carved out region that's creating this canyon through this donut of the molecular gas. And then we can see that the radio structure is along the surface then of part of that ionized gas because that's where the winds are running into this dense material and creating the shocks here. So the comparison of the molecular, the ionized and the radio structure is showing us that these are all intertwined. These are all material in the host galaxy. And that what we're seeing is just a very extended process similar to supernova remnants going on in the host galaxy. So this is a new idea, not necessarily a totally accepted idea yet because people are very comfortable with saying that the radio structure is no matter where they are or what they're doing, any radio structure that you're seeing is coming from a jet. So we're working on coming up with tests or definitions of terminology to help make it easier to digest that this is potentially not a jet, a relativistic jet launching through the host material and is instead a product of AGN feedback. And so if we understand that it's part of this feedback process, it creates this really cool panchromatic atlas of feedback. So we start from the cold gas reservoir, we get to the warm molecular gas, and then there's low ionization state and then the high ionization state and then the x-ray and then the radio is at the very end of it. So you kind of have this reservoir where radiation drives gas out of and then eventually at the end it reaches some point that it can't travel any further and it imparts a bunch of mechanical energy to create this shock effect that we're seeing in the radio. So what are we leaving with here then? So the important idea then is that the radio structure that we're seeing in a lot of these AGN are not jets, but instead are this byproduct, this shock that's going on, that is where AGN feedback of some sort is running into the host material of the galaxy and producing this shock. And that's valuable because then even though it's radio emission, it kind of gives us x-ray vision in the sense that if we turn off all the rest of the emission coming from this galaxy, we can see that this galaxy has some sort of feedback process where the winds and or the feedback, the AGN feedback, is running into the host material and shocking it. And potentially when you're shocking it, you're compressing the gas and producing that positive feedback. So if we use this radio structure to understand that there is positive feedback happening in AGN, we can understand, A, how often AGN are running into their host galaxies and B, how much gas is being compressed in these galaxies to help people create more accurate models of survey level amounts of simulations. And then finally, are we in danger? So just the question that we often get is like, are we gonna be okay if the black hole at the Milky Way turns into an AGN? And so, yes, I mean, there was an active galactic nuclei event about 2.6 or something million years ago, but we saw that the evidence of this active period are these high energy bubbles that are traveling perpendicularly to the plane of the host galaxies. We call these these Fermi bubbles. So what that really means then is if there was ever another active galactic event, the line of fire is out of the plane of the galaxy and that we'd probably be okay, we'd probably be pretty safe. So, right, with that, I can take some questions. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. That was incredible. Thank you. And I like that you added in there, you know, we'll probably be okay. Any astronomer worth their salt will never give you absolutes. Oh, yeah.  But good point. What a great presentation. We got so many kudos along the way, like great analogies. I love the animations. Thank you. All right. So thank you so much. Absolutely. So we do have some questions in the chat here. All right. So one of our questions is, so our bigger worry about black holes is not getting spaghettified, but it would, you know, be that we would be toasted by radiation long before we got near the thing. Is that correct? For the supermassive black hole, yes. I mean, that we're never going to be like falling into that we're more than halfway outside of the radius of the, I'm sorry, like, we're like the outer half of the radius in the in the Milky Way. So we're never going to fall into Sagittarius A star. However, yeah, there was like the worry that is there enough radiation that could like fry us potentially, but we're out of the line of fire. So we'll be okay. Excellent. Thank you.  You know, the synchrotron radiation or nuclear reactions? So right.  And so that forms this just just gigantic thermal component of X-rays and ultraviolet rays and gamma rays. I don't really understand gamma rays because we don't collect them very often from Aegean. It's hard to understand where gamma rays come from. So I don't know too much about gamma rays, but we do know that tons of hard X-rays then and ultraviolet rays come from that center around that accretion disk. And so the synchrotron radiation I was discussing is a radio brye product where you have some sort of collision that has freed electrons from. And so if you have this shock, you're ionizing that material and you've kicked electrons off of those atoms and those atoms travel along the magnetic field line and that creates this radio, the synchrotron emission. So you have to have free electrons and you have to have a magnetic field for them to travel along to create that synchrotron radiation. And typically that happens at a larger radii, but we do see a little bit around the nucleus as well. Great. So hawking radiation says black holes dissipate their energy. So how does that affect Aegean structures? I don't know. Hawking radiation is a fun idea about matter, anti-matter creation. So spontaneously you have an electron and a positron form and then recombine and obliterate each other and then nothing happened. But however, if it forms near the edge of a black hole, then the black hole accepts one of each one of them and the other one never recombines. Then theoretically or literally the black hole has emitted a particle by that sense. And so then it has lost it.  So yeah, we haven't noticed, we haven't measured any sort of significant effects that would be due to hawking radiation. And since we just touched on it a little bit, can you say a little bit more about the formation of supermassive black holes? Nope, because we don't know how they got there. So just there was some new results for this, an Aegean out at a redshift of 10, which is near the beginning of the universe.  If that's correct, who knows if that's correct. But if it's real, then that's a really big question mark about how it was a supermassive black hole able to get so massive, even at such an early time. So we don't understand how they got there. That's a big question mark about the origins of the universe and black holes. And so we did have a question in the chat here. What is the possibility that Milky Way Sagittarius A star could turn into an Aegean? Um, not good. So I mean, there was this, excuse me, there was this exciting little time, probably like a decade ago, where there was a high velocity gas cloud that was kind of traveling near the supermass, near Sagittarius A star. And we thought it was going to maybe go too close and kind of be eaten and accreted.  And we'd be like, ooh, it would be so exciting to see what happens to Sagittarius A star. But then that gas cloud just whipped by and didn't go in.  Yes, there's usually you need some reason for the gas to stop orbiting around the black hole and fall in. So like if we like astronauts orbit around the earth and are going to keep falling past the earth, unless they lose their angular momentum. So if we put it, we built up a giant wall, and the astronaut ran into that wall, they lose it and then they'd fall to earth. So there has to be like a collision that robs energy, this momentum of stuff to have it fall into the center. So we don't have anything like that likely happening anytime soon. Okay. And then we did have just one clarification I'll ask in the chat is could you define fundamental plane in this context? Right. So this fundamental plane, a plane just means that it takes three different variables to form that relationship. So it's a relationship between the radio luminosity and the X ray luminosity and black hole mass. So there's two variables here and there's one variable here. And they said, well, if we take those, those three variables and we add some cocktail of their like point six of this and point seven of that and point five of this, that creates this relationship. And so that's neat. And what does that tell us? We're not really sure, but you could potentially use it if you knew the X ray luminosity, and you knew the black hole mass, what you could expect the radio luminosity be then. However, we found out that that didn't work out using different observatories, a higher resolution observatory for the radio. So that's where that fundamental plane then fell apart. Okay. And then we have another question. So what are some future studies which we could all follow up on this? Right. So I would like to, I mean, what could we do? So there's a really cool survey called Vlas. Vlas is a all the very large array, all sky survey. And so it is then I think probably like one point, you know, it's like three gigahertz or something like that, where it's the VLA, which is a radio observatory has observed all of the sky. And what I would like to do eventually is look at where all the AGN are and measure how extended the radio structures are for those AGN. So if you can measure like the extent of them and see if they weren't circular, or if they were circular, like if they were point source, if they were extended, and do like a census of like the morphologies of radio structure for nearby AGN. Under the guise that that is a feedback process where the AGN is like radio, the feedback is running into the host galaxy, you then have a census of how often AGN are running into their host galaxies. So that is something we could be doing. Otherwise, I also think in the infrared is very interesting in the near infrared, looking at iron two. So iron two is like 1.2 microns. And that is also a shock diagnostic. So you can use that to measure how bright shocks are in these AGN. And so if there's any sort of significance with the INAS gas in the optical versus this shocked emission line signature, there could be something to learn there as well. So catalogs of iron two and radio morphologies are something that would be very helpful for the community. And then there was one more question. Everyone wanted to know, is there a way that we could access these slides to use in presentation? You can invite me to come talk somewhere else. I'm always around. So happy to come chat some more. Like the sound of that. So we had a question about the Euclid telescope. Would the Euclid telescope find more AGNs? So the Euclid telescope is a survey telescope. But I don't know. Probably. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I should know more about Euclid because I'm an ESA or astronomer. I'm part of ESA. So that's the European Space Agency. And so I should really understand more about what Euclid does for my research individually. But I believe that it's more of a survey instrument than I'm more of a deep dive into a single object person. So I don't try to think about what Euclid could be doing for me. But I should. I don't know. Or AGN though necessarily. I think it's an optical and might be difficult in the optical. Well, we won't tell anyone that'll stay between friends. Yeah. This is not going live anywhere or it's not being saved forever. Definitely not. All right. Let's see if there are any more questions. Vivian, do you have any other questions that you want to pull from the chat here? Yeah, there was a question about recently in the news there was a report that a very massive supernova explosion resulted in thinning the ozone layer in the Earth's atmosphere temporarily. The report said it's occurring 1.9 billion light years away. And she was amazed. She thought that we wouldn't have to worry about it if it wasn't within about 20 light years of Earth. But now they say it's they could threaten our environment from that far away. Do you know I want this article. Let's get let's circulate this article. Let's take a look. Let's find it. If anyone knows what Linda is talking about, please or if Linda, you know where you saw that just throw it in the chat. Let's see if we can figure it out. Supernova explosion. Okay. So it's not going to be 1.9 billion light years away. I mean, we look at the galaxies that I look at are mega light years away. So and so like and the only supernovae we'd have to worry about our supernovae in our own galaxy and that's like thousands of light years tops. So the 1.9 billion were probably okay. Probably like a and like, what was that? I don't know. Oh, there's another one. I don't know. Yeah, it's probably okay. But yeah. Oh, here's the cat. Is this the article? The article? Supernova explosions. Leave so. Gosh. All right. I'm not going to weigh in too much on this though because it's a supernova explosion and I'm not an expert. But oh, so this is near they happened a long time ago and maybe had repercussions on the environment back in the day. And so I think that's what they were seeing. Okay, I found one from the earth was the earth atmosphere was changed during the ice age. And then okay. So yeah, totally plausible. I thought like, I mean, who knows what happened back in the ice age and earlier eras. So I feel like that's very feasible if they have evidence for that. I thought it was like something that happened recently or something. And so yes, I mean, there are concerns, I think of like, fatal juice becoming it's going supernova and exploding and how beautiful that would be. But then it's like, are we gonna be okay if that happens? I don't know. Like, that can be a problem. So very similar to those folks looking at the Chernobyl explosion being like, wow, so beautiful. Like the radiations killing them. So yeah, I'm not I'm not sure about the supernova explosions. I'll read more of that article. Thank you for sharing. Yeah, there was a supernova. Oh, here we go. Found it on NASA. There we have it. Try this guy. That's the one I think. And it was just recently on the October of this year. Oh, sorry. Oh, yeah. So this is a gamma ray burst. Again, I'll have to read it.  Sorry, it's not interesting stuff. So but I mean this is interesting. I'll be sure to read it. But it's not interesting to watch people read an article. Cool. And I didn't see that one. That's really cool. Lawrence was asking if you're gonna get time on the 39 meter. Do you have any idea? This is the 39 meters at the ELT the extremely large telescope or something or 39. I don't know which one that one is meter telescope, 39 meter telescope. The extremely large. ELT. Who knows? I mean, ELT is when's the projected time for this thing? First light. I don't know. First light's not going to be a month. Let's see first. All right. But first light is planned for 2028. So I got some time. You got to think about some programs, some proposals for it. Typically, you got like a proposing period, maybe a year out or something that you can submit for. But right now, I have just as much time as anybody else on earth with the ELT. Fantastic. All right. Well, thank you so much, Dr. Fisher, for spending your time with us here at Night Sky Network. For our Zoom attendees, a survey link was posted in the chat. Vivian, if you could post that again just because we've had some links dropped in since then. And we always welcome your feedback, your comments, your suggestions, questions, concerns. And you can find this webinar and past webinars on the Night Sky Network YouTube channel. If you just put in NASA Night Sky Network into the search, it'll come right up. And if you are interested in this and more, tune in next month on Tuesday, December 19th, where we'll hear from Dr. Robert Niemann-Niemirov for the Astronomy Picture of the Day 2023 Year Review. That's always a favorite of ours here at Night Sky Network. And keep looking up. And we thank you so much for tuning in tonight. Thanks, everybody. What a treat. See you next month.