Welcome to Dare to Dream. This is Debbie Daschinger. And today's show features Marie Diamond, who's going to be talking about how to feng shui your life. Marie is a consultant to a who's who of celebrities, in film, music, sea suites, global leadership, sports, and even in royal palaces. And Marie is going to help us understand how to use our home to attract a dream life. Dare to Dream has been around for almost 17 years. This podcast show won three talk positive radio awards, won the COV Award for Best Radio Podcast, Walt Magazine named Dare to Dream, one of the top 20 best podcasts to listen to this year. And it is high ranking under Apple podcasts and self improvement. This show is sponsored by Dr. Dane here and Access Consciousness. They do energy work out into the world. If you'd like to be a facilitator or take one of their classes, go to Dr. Dane here, H-E-E-R.com. Now something very special coming up. 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Experience this phenomenal cruise with amazing top notch presentations plus excursions to Belize, Honduras, Mexico and much more. Book your cabin now, portal at c.com. And remember, type in Debbie Daschinger or Dare to Dream. Get your cabin for this incredible cruise and all that's gonna be shared over this event. Well, my guest today is often remembered for being featured in the global sensation The Secret. Marie Diamond has built an incredible worldwide following. She's taught more than one million students over the past 30 years and she's a sought after speaker in more than 30 countries. Marie is a personal business and spiritual mentor and consultant to a who's who list of celebrities. Counted among her clients are Steven Spielberg, Jodie Foster, Dan Ackroyd, Big Sean, Paula Abdul, Jason Bateman and luminaries Jack Canfield, the late Bob Proctor, Dr. John Gray, Marie, Barry and Williamson and way more. Her latest book, which I'm holding up is Feng Shui Your Life, a Beginner's Guide to Using Your Home to Attract the Life of Your Dream. And if you'd like to learn more, go to her name, MarieDiamond.com. And with that, I welcome the amazing Marie Diamond to Dare to Dream. It is so great to have you. Thank you so much, Debbie, for having me here and I'm so excited for you and that cruise. I'm like, oh my God, I would love to join that one. Oh, thank you and you are welcome. You're welcome to join. You actually should be one of the presenters on that cruise. I wanted to start out by asking you about your name because what a great name, Marie Diamond. Are you really a diamond? Were you born that way? No, this is not my original name. It's the name that my spiritual master gave to me to use and it's also part of what I'm teaching. So we're talking about the multifaceted aspects of a home. Both we call it diamond feng shui, diamond dowsing, inner diamond, so we have all these programs that are talking about how to become a multifaceted diamond in your home and in yourself. So, but it's a given name. Yeah, it is a beautiful, perfect name. I was really reflecting like there couldn't be anything better, Debbie Ruby, Debbie Emerald. I was going down the list, but it's like diamond is pretty much the apex, right? It is, yeah. Well, a great book, by the way, and I was showing you my notes before we started because when we read the book, we get to do our personal numbers and figure out directions. I really liked all of that. And then if we have a partner, figure theirs out, you weren't always here doing this. And at 15, you had a pretty extreme near death experience, serious accident and a long recovery. And that's when you reached out to your spiritual mentor. Can you talk a little bit about that? It's a segue from what you just shared, your spiritual mentor, who was it? What did he tell you? Well, you know, I grew up in a Catholic family in Belgium. And so for me, I was very connected with spirit already as a child, I could see energy. I was aware of that. And I was just very spiritual and religious in that sense. So when I then had a near death experience at 15 after a major accident run over by a truck, I actually left my body and went to the other side. And there there were like beings of light welcoming me. And there was this voice very clearly, and I was very conscious about it, that the voice said, you need to go back because you're here to enlighten more than 500 million people. I had no idea, of course, what that meant. And I returned to my body a couple of days later, you know, really fully conscious. And at that moment I had like, what does that mean, enlightening? I mean, I'm a Catholic, right? You don't enlighten.  But yeah, for me it was like, I felt like I did something wrong. I was very aware already about visualization. I was visualizing already very early on. I had a visualization wall. I mean, I was very much into tune already with some of the information because that's where Trameter came regularly to me. And he was what we would call an immortal. So somebody who would just appear in my dreams or would appear like, I could see that being standing there. And he would always give me advice. And so after a couple of months being quite sick after the accident because it was quite traumatic, I asked actually at one of these meetings, spiritual meetings I would call that, like, what did I do wrong, right? So what is it that I did not pray enough to God was another good role model like where my thoughts negative, like I did not saw that accident coming. And he said to me, well, you have bad Feng Shui. And that's the first time I heard about that. And so he suggested I would change from the bedroom I was into another bedroom. And so the bedroom of my brothers they have already left the house. They were already much older than me. And so the bedroom I was in was on the north side and there was no sunshine coming in. I was very depressed in that room. I was bullied at school. I was having no friends. I was a lot of, you know, even having an accident. And then I moved to the west side of the house. And the west side was the sunlight coming in. I was painting it in the orange. I started hanging different images because in the old bedroom were the images of my sister. Like there was like a bedroom passed on to me, right from her because also she was much older. And so it's really interesting is that suddenly I started having this shift that happened in my life. Like the bully stopped bullying me like within a week. Like I had been bullying me for three years, right? And I was like, wow, that's interesting. I started having friends. I started having my first boyfriend. So I was like, and on top of it, the relationship between me and my father was very abusive, man, actually. He was probably my biggest bully in my life. He really shifted and we started having conversations.  And so I was like, wow, you know, changing the location, right? And then changing the colors and the surrounding just really was the start of my Feng Shui journey. Oh, I love that story. And I resonate. I don't know that I had a significant change, but I will say I grew up in a particular bedroom that was close to my mother's bedroom. And I was scared all the time. When I went to sleep, I was terrified. Of the closet, I was terrified. And it was a very small room. And when my brother moved out and went to college, boy, I couldn't have moved fast enough all the way down the hall into a much bigger space, two windows. Yeah, it had a whole different life force to it. And I felt, I think I must have felt very safe because a lot of that terror stopped. So powerful stuff. I love that the mentor expressed to you what, that the Feng Shui was off and that you then got to experience that. And did your mentor even in an atheric form ever express exactly if it was a male who it was? Or it almost sounds ethnically like it may have been an Asian male. Do you know? Well, it was actually not. It is somebody who was considered an experience by other people. Sometimes it's what we call an ascended master called Saint Germain. And so I was connecting with him. He would appear. I had other meetings later on that supported me with some Feng Shui and energy work that were more Asian masters. But yeah, that was a European looking man. And it was very interesting, I did not know other people could connect with that person. But then later on, when I was much older, I encountered other people that had similar experience with that same master. So it is somebody that lived really in a physical form in the European world until around the 1600s and then was known to appear regularly with leaders in the world that he would just appear to share information. And so for me, that was my guiding force.  So I just using it. And but he also at some point came to me and told me that I need to become a lawyer. Yeah. And so that's actually I became a lawyer based on his advice. And because I wanted to really impact millions of people, you know, 500 million people, how do you do that? Right? Now, this is before internet. Now I would open a TikTok account or start a podcast, right? But at that time it was like, I was thinking if I could be a diplomat and become part of a government, I would create different laws. I could perhaps support that. So I became an international lawyer actually because I thought like if I don't work for governments, what I did, I work for the government, in Belgium, European government. And I started really exploring how to make a difference. But after like five years doing that, I was like, you know, starting already mentoring a lot of people because I had a whole journey of meditation behind me. He was also teaching me meditations. So it was like a whole journey already. At 31, I started actually sharing this information publicly and became a spiritual teacher. Amazing. How interesting, who would have thought, are there still pieces of law that you use or include in what you do today? Well, it's really interesting. You know, I run a business, right? So I'm also a business mentor. And so for a lot of my clients sometimes they come to me and I would say, what I learned from being a lawyer, I have a very analytical mind. So even if I'm totally focused on energy and I'm an energy master, I'm also very analytical. So when I teach this information, even in the book Functuary of Life, I'm very practical. Like this is what the problem is, this is what you do. Right? So it's like that analytical lawyer's brain has helped me over the years to be practical and make it very clear to people what are the steps they have to take. But I still use that for my clients. Sometimes they come to me and like, this is what I would suggest. Of course, talk to your lawyer. I'm not a lawyer anymore, but I would say I really get the strategy very well. And I see very quickly what the mistakes or what the problems are. Because I think lawyers, you know, that's part of what their brain is really good at. They can see very quickly where the problems are. And so from that, I use that. And of course, but like I said, I'm not a lawyer any longer, but I still have that mindset. Yeah, your strategy really is amazing. And I wanna thank you for something because one of the things in your book that you talk about is the importance of the setup of your office and your desk. And I probably have, I kind of have a terrible setup. My back is to the door and, but I am facing a window. I love this window because I look out on plants. It's obviously beautiful light. It's very peaceful for me. And you know, I've heard that before and I've attempted to rearrange my office space never successfully. No other layout worked. And I'll tell you why it was so genius in your book, Marie, because you were kind enough to say, and by the way, if it doesn't work, if you can't move things around, here's the fix, OMG. So I did exactly what you suggested. I got myself a mirror. It's right here. It's up on next to the window. And I can see it from here, but it also can reflect the door. So simple. I don't know. It's actually a Feng Shui mirror. And I read which one to get to let abundance flow in. And then I got so excited doing that fix from your book that I thought, oh yeah, I'm gonna get the things for outside the house too, to push away negative energy and also to bring in the flow. These are so inexpensive. These things are like $9, $14, you know, to get these Feng Shui mirrors. So I was so grateful you include things like that. Yeah, well, the first step is of course, like I said, is if you can see the door of the space that you are in, and I mean by the door, the door coming from the hallway, the door that you would take to come into the space, right? So like for example, I have three doors here, right? I have a door to a closet, a door to a bathroom, and door to the hallway, right? So I need to see first of all, to get in what we call a power position. Now, sometimes that is not always possible, right? That's in your case, it's like it's not so possible. So, you know, I'd say that to people, well, you know, perhaps it's fixed into the wall or it's just like your desk is too big, you know, literally you can't change it around, right? So then we need to do a little fix. And so one of the fixes is to put like a little mirror, you know, left or right from you too, so that in like a glance of your eyes, you can see what's going on behind you, yeah? So why is it important to sit in a power position? And I know you cannot do it in your desk, but perhaps you can do it in your dining room, perhaps you can do it in your sofa, perhaps you can do it in any meeting you have outdoors. So always sit first and go earlier into any meeting that you see the people coming in. When you see people coming in, you're actually literally seeing the energy coming in and you are going to have a different conversation with people, yeah? And so that's the first step. We've seen that when people have their desk against the wall or even against the window, it's like they're very quickly are hitting a wall, right? I always say money doesn't come in from the walls. It doesn't come in from the windows. It comes in through people that comes into your space, even if you do online, right? That's like the tradition, right? That's like the major rule. But that can be, if you can't do it at home, you perhaps any meeting you have, you can still do it, as much as you can do it. Like even in the bedroom, when you wake up, you want to see the door, right? Because then you see romance coming in. Having it 24 hours a day all the time, it's not always possible because we still have a designed home a certain way, yeah? So you always try to fix it. So one of the things you can fix it is that mirror, but also like a high back chair. Like I have a very high back chair, even my head is protected, yeah? Okay, so in your case, I would look for a different chair, to be honest. So where it's even higher, so that literally your neck is protected and you have arm rests, right? I have both, yes. So if you have that, then you have a protection shield, yeah? So that's one of the things I would suggest you do. And it's like we try always to upgrade, yeah? We always like try to move things around as much as we can, because every small thing we do is already a change of flow, yeah? Now, perfect feng shui does not exist. I've never had a house and I've lived in 24 houses in my life, you know? I never had a home that was perfect feng shui, but each time you add something to it, it starts shifting the energy. Oh my gosh, yeah. I know even in the bedroom, the photos or the paintings I have are of couples. Different forms of couples that are very beautiful. Two of everything, the two nights stands, the two lamps, you know, so many easy things like that. And I wanna ask you, so when you say in your book, just the repositioning of a desk or the removal or addition of a picture, the placement or covering of a mirror, the display of a candle in the right place and our fortunes, our health, our life, our family dynamics can radically change in a short time. How is that determined? Is that on an individual basis or are there global fixes and what the heck? Once you get a partner involved, no less a family who might all have different numbers. Yeah, so let's first focus back on what feng shui really is, right? So feng shui is an energy system of China that's been around for thousands of years. And I always say the first masters of feng shui were probably shamans that could really tune into the energy fields and listened like when they did something or they reposition something or they listened to nature probably and saw like, hey, if I'm here, if I'm sitting here, I feel different or when we design something this way, it feels nicer. So I think there were just people that were just very clear about energy. Now feng shui is in that sense an energy system that we can compare like with acupuncture or Tai Chi or Qi Gong, it's all following the flow of energy, the vitality force that we have, that each one of us have. So maybe the force we with you as we say in Star Wars, right? But it's that, may the Qi be with you, right? May you be in that flow of energy. And so feng shui is not about the body directly but it's about the body around your body, right? So acupuncture like we put needles, we put acupressure or we do certain movements with Tai Chi and Qi Gong, we start creating breath and movement. Yeah, that's the Qi that we're using. In feng shui, we are looking at the home around your body, that's where you sleep, where you live, where you work and that home also has a breath and that's air, right? And air is connected with the wind, the wind directions and also connect with movement and movement is where you sit, where you're going to sleep. So each time you go to these places, you create movement. So in a way, it's a bigger field of acupuncture. And so over the thousands of years, the feng shui masters have seen their certain colors, certain positioning based on your birthday, certain elements like water, fire, earth, metal and wood, when we place that in certain directions, just creates a different frequency, a different vibration. And so we all intuitively have some of that experience when we go to certain place and we're like, oh my God, I love it here, right? You would keep hanging out there. It can perhaps not be the most aesthetic pleasing, but there's a vibe there, right? And then there are other areas like, when you talked about your bedroom as a child, you're fearful there. I mean, everybody would come in like this, nothing to be afraid of, but you felt there was a bad vibe there. So why is that? Perhaps if I would go into the bedroom now, I would say, oh, it's because you're sleeping in the wrong direction. The images, the colors were really not good for you. So I don't know what it is, but we feel it, yeah? So some people say, well, is feng shui intuitively? I said, actually it's not. It's an energy system based on formulas, really mathematical based formulas that they have built up over the years. But some people are quite intuitive towards it, yeah? And kind of feel the natural flow of things because they're more sensitive, yeah? So that based on that, there is one of the formulas that we're working on is based on your birthday. So people can actually, in the book Feng Shui Alive, it's all explained, but also we ask people to download my free app. So it's a Murray Diamond app that's on all the app stores for free. And so what people then put in there, they put in their birthday when they're born and their gender when they're born because it's based on the male or female DNA. So it's a whole formula. It's not numerology that you have to add numbers up. It's a whole formula that is calculated in the app itself. And then based on that, people do get a compass, yeah? And so the compass, what we call the diamond compass is based on your number and it's based on your birthday. So I'm number five. I don't know what your number is Debbie. I'm nine. You're nine. Okay, great. So you will see that for each one there will be four wind directions. So four directions with the wind, the breadth of the house is the strongest. For me, that is Southwest. For you, it's East, yeah? So people hold on the compass and they hold it like in the center of a space where they're working, sleeping or living. And then they're looking what's in that success direction. So in my success direction, you can't really see it because it's behind me in this room. There are my books. Yeah, I think you see the books, but there are also awards there. There are symbols of success there, right? For example, a golden crown.  So like I have certain symbols there that when I look at it, it makes my heart sing, yeah? So it feels like it's aligned with me, yeah? There's also a place where you can put your vision board, for example. Now normally my vision board is there, but I take it off because I don't want everybody to see my vision board. But you also will see there is a relationship direction and that's indicated in pink. And so for me, that's West, for you, that's North actually, yeah? Right? And so what people then do, they hold a compass in the room that they are sleeping, working or living in and see what is there at this moment, yeah? Because what has been there for a while has been affecting you subconsciously. It's never conscious level. It's on a subconscious level that's been affecting you. So if you have clutter there, right?  So we are like, I would say energized that way, yeah? So for you, your energy will be energized by activating East for success, relationship for North. If you put there something that is like an image of a lonely woman, then don't be surprised then that you will say to the universe, it's like this is the message.  So everything around is giving a message from you to the universe, yeah? So when you put on there something and it's not what you're really up to or not something you want, you're blocking that vibration between you and the universe, yeah? So when then people put something different and say, I want romance and I put the image of romance there, then suddenly they're giving themselves subconsciously the message, I am open to romance because it's their wind energy, it's their vibration. They breathe that in and out because it's in that direction. And so based on that, you first focus on your personal number and of course the book function for your life and the app is all aligned together. And so, and then you look at your partner and then you look for your family, for example, for your children in their bedroom, right? For your partner, perhaps in their workspace or together in the living room or together in the bedroom. So you always can align things together. And this is how personal Feng Shui is based. Wow. So you have no idea, we've never met before, you don't even know that I have a background in shamanism that you would even say that and I don't remember. Oh, wow. Yes. And so this, I'm just mind blown listening to you. Our bedroom is in the North. The East is our going out to our backyard and I am so into that backyard. I go out every single morning. I do my shaman practice. I garden, I love to garden. I love flowers and plants and beautiful trees. I bought great patio furniture like just intuitively. I love beautiful things anyway. We have a pyramid over our patio couch and a crystals hanging there and to boot. This is sort of in the South, but I mean, this is, yeah. No, it's East. So East of the main house is a back house. The renter moved out. We're turning it into a healing temple. Perfect. So I can do music and shamanism there. Well, that's perfect because East is your success direction. Now the East is the healer. Like I just said, you're the energy number and my system is you're the healer. So the East stands for everything with nature like the flowers and the plants and everything to do with healing. And the East is actually also connected with healing practices from the past. So the native traditions. Yeah. So you are totally on goal and purpose Debbie with what you do because that's actually what I do believe that the shamans from China were like understanding the energy of the mountains. They were tuning into the energy of the water and the rivers and seeing how that influenced people in their energy field and their chi, right? And so there are five elements that we need in Feng Shui to be in balance, right? We need the air that it stands for metal actually. We need the water. We need the earth energy. We need the wood that means nature and we need fire. Yeah. So let me have these five elements in harmony and somebody can need sometimes more fire than another person, yeah? Depending on their energy number there will be different flows. Like for example, I'm very much earth and metal, yeah? So you will see I will wear a lot of like, I have like a metal collar on today, right? So I will do a little bit of fire but you rarely see me with a lot of reds but I can do still red nails, right? So, but for example, you will not see so much me with wood because wood is not of my strongest elements. Doesn't mean I don't love nature but I won't bring it too much into my house. Yes, plants, yes, but not like wearing greens. That's something that doesn't work. But for example, my daughter, green is super good for her and I didn't tell her as a child but she would always pick green clothes, yeah? Well, I would always go for the gold and the whites, yeah? Because that's metal colors, yeah? So when we go shopping, we shop completely different but it's because our energy is different. What is your daughter?  Ah, and she's a nine. What is her predominant element? Well, it's actually wood and water, yeah? So blues, greens are really her dominant colors, yeah? Yeah, so I think you love aqua blue, right? Yeah, oh, teal, turquoise. I live in these colors, forest green, olive green, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. You will see your wisdom is actually, and your health needs some purples and lilacs. So that will be definitely, so you will have a totally different color palette than I have, yeah? It's just so crazy. I just ordered a purple winter coat, like. I am not surprised. That's actually really good for your health, you know, purple. Yeah, right? So it's just a different vibe, right? So for me, Southwest is my success direction. Southwest, one of the colors for Southwest is pink. So I have a lot of pinks, yeah? So my daughter would never in a thousand years get a pink coat, right? I would buy anything in pink and gold and whites, you know? So it's just because it's like, when I see people in tune with their soul, they're in tune with their chi, they're in tune with their color palette. So it's really your energetic color palette that you have. Yeah, it makes so much sense. And everything you say Marie makes sense because I know, I imagine everybody watching this listening to this notes, you can walk in an office space or a home and perhaps there's a fountain outside, but for me, especially inside or in a garden. I mean, in certain places, not every place, some places they feel cold to me, but there are certain places where they are and it's just heaven or there's a fireplace. And it's just so, I am very sensitive to elements. I don't do what you do, but just as a sensitive being, I can feel locations and it makes a tremendous difference. So regarding, let's start with our business before our personal future. So our business, are there some simple things that people can do that would radically change their business using Feng Shui? And I guess these would be more global. Yeah, and I would say, first of all, if you can sit in a power position, that's always going to give you more good reputation and people will honor you more as an expert. The second thing is to look at your success direction in your office and then place there things that really are to do with your business. It could be your flyers, it could be your books, it could be your products, like put something there, right? And even around you, just make sure that what you see is something connected with your business. Like I remember this woman and she had like old nudes, images of nude women hanging around in her office. Now I was asking her, are you an escort service? And she was like, no, I'm not. I'm into, you know, creating production for movies. I said, well, have you done productions? She said, yes. So what are the movies? So hang images from these movies that you have been working on and future movies. Like focus on the things that are around you. Don't bring too much family pictures into your office.  It's not your business. Focus on that, yeah? Then what I definitely would suggest activate your relationship direction. Like my relationship direction is global. I think yours is also Debbie worldwide. You know, people can listen to your podcast, to everything that you're doing on the media. Put a globe out in your relationship direction, yeah? And as you're putting the globe there, you know, you're like saying symbolically, I'm connected with everybody that's ever connected with me, yeah? It's a very, just simple thing. Don't do a small globe, something you can see the countries on, yeah? Do an updated country globe, right? Not like something that was a globe 10 years ago. People, worlds are changing. So do that, right? And then also organize, you know, declutter your office. You know, even on your desk, don't have too much clutter around you when you're talking. Add some gold-looking items, like I have like something gold or something in it. Put that on there. And definitely for cash flow, that fountain that you're talking about, yeah? So but the fountain changes every year. And actually this year, Debbie, you have the fountain should be in the east of your office, because that's the most cash flow that comes in is to the east. Now you are actually based on the energy number, we have time feng shui, and you're actually starting a new nine-year cycle in your professional life. I don't know if you have experienced that, but it's like total new energy that is coming in for nine years. So you just closed off a nine-year cycle and you start to know because we take it in cycles of nine in feng shui, because there are nine numbers, yeah? And so it's a very auspicious year for you. Last year was more about restructuring and healing still and letting go of certain things from the past, yeah? So we can actually look at just the feng shui, but we also can look at what we call the time cycles of your energy number, yeah? So that's a little bit more advanced feng shui, but that's kind of what we do.  Even if you do healing, for example, any healing modality you do, face one of your good directions, your alpha frequency will go even into theta frequencies and you will heal better. And you will see on the compass, there are empty directions. The empty directions are always creating beta frequencies and the healing is not happening so fast or the abundance is not attracted so much. So right now I'm facing wisdom, yeah? So why is wisdom? Because I'm teaching right now, I'm educating people, yeah? But I would never sit and my students are used to that. If they're doing meditations or they're doing healing modalities, they always take their compass and they turn themselves into one of their good directions. But for example, you do rituals around money, you will go to your success direction, do rituals for healing, go to your health direction. So you can actually tap in there like windows of energy that you have into the universe, tap into it and your whole chakras, all your chakras, your whole energy field connects with that and you will actually manifest fast and heal stronger. So when it comes to placement of water features, plants, mirrors, flowers, crystals, candles or images, like you talked about for shifting the energy in the room and our personal energy, is there anything global about any of those that you can share for everybody? So there are general rules that everybody can use, of course, right? So for example, plants, plants are the best in the East, Southeast and the South area of a space that can be of your home. Like for example, you have the garden in the East, so that's really beautiful, right? You're sitting in the garden in the East. Now that would be in the South, that would be great too. Like I have the garden East, Southeast, South, yeah? Because that's the best place for a garden because that's where the green is the strongest, yeah? Everything with nature is the strongest. Doesn't mean you cannot have it in the North or in the Southwest or in the North, it's just, it's not that strong, okay? So crystals, for example, are best in the Southwest, West or Northwest, because that's all earth elements and the Northeast, yeah? So all crystals and metal elements can be placed in West and Northwest. So there are certain areas and that's all in the book, of course, right? But what I want to talk about a little bit about what you place there is just, like think about plants.  So you have a fern behind you and it's all very spiky leaves. There are actually, I considered all knives that are behind you, yeah? And they're very close to you, even if it's just on a camera, right? So what it does, it's like you're getting attacked by all these knives and that will actually diminish your good reputation, yeah?  So the first thing I would like for you to do is take that away. The second, you have another image there and it looks like dried up flowers, yeah? So they're dead flowers, there's no life force in it, yeah? So I would suggest to change that, yeah? So if you put flowers around, you put like a blossoming orchid or a plant with round leaves or something that is green and round and flowering, right? So that is giving subconsciously a different message to people, yeah?  Because it's all the time knives hitting their energy field, their aura field. May I ask you a question about this? So let's say somebody lives in an apartment or a home, it's just dark, there's not a lot of light coming in. They don't do very successfully with plants or flowers indoors. Do you say no fake plants or what would they do in that case? Yeah, I say fake plants because the thing is our mind is not seeing a difference between the real or the fake plants. We could smell a difference, but the image is like when an athlete is for example running the marathon and in his mind he's running the marathon, they can see and measure that the muscles will react to the imagery, yeah? So I have fake plants to be honest in my bedroom because in my office I don't have a lot of green fingers. So outside the gardener takes care of it, inside of course I get some fresh flowers if I can, but there are some places I just, I forget to water them, but it doesn't matter. My conscious mind is aware that it's not there, but my subconscious mind just thinks oh this beautiful blossoming plant there, right? So you can do that, but if it's a darker space, definitely add more light to it, yeah? So more lights, more candles, like light is the first representation of life force, yeah? So don't have dark areas in the house, especially when it comes darker at night, just put some lights or candles on, just create some more vibration and a candle can be placed anywhere by the way because it shows chi, yeah? So it's not just considered fire, a fire element is like literally a fire place, yeah?  Okay, and this is all fascinating. Do you have any stories, success stories, people you worked with who were in one condition and then you feng shui'd whatever situation or area and what the change was, what they experienced instead? Well, I want to share a story of a man that reached out to us and he was living in a tent here in LA. I mean, really like on the bottom of his life, right? And so he was asking me like, can I have some suggestion? I don't have any money. I cannot place plans. I cannot place crystals. I'm just living in a tent camp here in LA and I said, can you get some paper and just perhaps some scotch tape? And I just want you to write down on this paper like white quartz crystal, fountain, success, money in the directions. And so I told him what are the directions he found somebody that for him, like he didn't even have a phone, right, to do this. So he would like, as somebody wears the south with the northwest like with a compass, he started putting posted notes, yeah, on his tent. Within a few months, somebody offered him a car, yeah, an old car, so he could now sleep in a car and start looking for a job, yeah? So then he found a job, just doing the same thing with the car, looking at his direction every night, wherever he was parking with posted notes, yeah? And then he found a job, he got an apartment. Now he lives and we are now four years later in an apartment, three bedrooms, has an amazing girlfriend, beautiful job. And so I was able to meet him in person and now he goes every week back to the tent camp and teaches people how to activate their directions. So I say to people, don't tell me you cannot do it, yeah? You, everybody can do it, even if you put a posted note up, yeah? Cause that's what I did when I was coming to America for the first time in 2001, I didn't have a lot of money. I literally had a few suitcases and a couple of thousands of dollars that when I immigrated here. And so I literally made a vision board, put on my vision board, posted notes. And one of the post notes that said, I'm going to be in a movie seen by millions of people that will transform the world. Yeah? That's amazing. I put that on a posted note, right? In my success direction in my office. Oh my gosh. Right? And one of the first things that started happening was that I had nothing, I had really no furniture. I had nothing. And suddenly people coming to me, there were already students and they started giving me furniture, right? They gave me a desk, they gave me a computer, they gave me sofa, they gave me a television from things that they didn't need anymore. Suddenly I had a full house. Even the linens, the towels, everything was given to me, right?  I need to simple, right? So I got myself a fake Oscar and I still have that one actually here. Oh my God, this is so silly. And I put on it a Marie Diamond 2005 because I was 2001 at that time. So I need a few, you know, years to get into a movie. I didn't know it was going to be an actress or a producer, I had no idea, right? So the first thing that happened is within a few weeks, I got a new client that came to me, one of my first big clients and she was Marcy Shymoff. She was made run into secret with me. She became my student. She started opening doors to me. So suddenly I got clients like John Gray, Barbara Proctor, Jack Canfield. They all felt so stuck and she was like, Marie has the answer for us. Yeah. And then I got my first Oscar winning client. Within a month, I put the Oscar out in my success direction. Yeah. And as I put it there, now I have more than 20 Oscar winning clients over the years. But it's just like I have to tell my own story getting into the secret in 2005, it was on my vision board. Yeah. And I had my Oscar out and when people say, so how did you got in the secret? I said, well, it was on my vision board. It was in my success direction. Yeah. Because in these four years, I became quite known that I became part of an organization and a big mastermind group where the film was also filmed with other teachers. And this is how I got into the secret. So I would not have been in the secret without that little yellow post-it notes that I put in my success direction. So how difficult is it? Wow. That is a goose bump story. It is so inspiring. I am absolutely going to do something. I have a different dream, but I am absolutely going to do that. And I hope everybody who's watching is also inspired to get the book, to get the compass, the app, figure out where's your success area, clean it up. Don't have plants like mine. I won't ever again. I promise, thank you for that. And yeah, it's not just about being pretty, pretty stuff backgrounds. It's really what's functional and what's happening energetically. And so whatever your dream is, folks, yeah, at least a post-it, if not a vision board, but certainly something symbolic. Wow. My gosh. So let me ask you this, because I think I'm really like tongue-tied over the beauty of what you just shared. And thank you. Thank you for that. Thank you for going so big. Like we all need to see that, right? Everybody, no matter where you started, you've had a depression at some point in your life if you didn't start here. And so for each of us to consider a leap of that magnitude and to have a dream that magnificent and then to be living that dream and then some, I just, I love that as a dare to dream. And you did, you did. It is dare to dream. And that's why I loved when I saw your podcast it was like that I dare to dream. And the secret has now reached more than 500 million people. So I would say check, that's done. Look at this, look at this. Wow. So Feng Shui, how does this practice of Feng Shui Maria adapt to different cultural contacts or geographic locations? How does that work? Well, you know, it all works based on the compass, right? So there are some advanced techniques, especially in the Southern Hemisphere that we probably would do differently, right? But the North Pole is still the North Pole in the South Pole, the South Pole. So we still can work with a compass of action. And of course we need to adapt to the culture, right? Or your religious background. So for example, if the wisdom direction that we're activating based on your energy number could be different, you know? It's like if you are a Catholic that you will activate something different for your wisdom like putting an image of Jesus.  Or if you are, you know, Muslim that you perhaps would put a core on there. So you have to understand Feng Shui is not a belief system. It's just an energy system that you can adapt to wherever you are and wherever that you love. And there are images that people in, I would say Spain would hang, there are different images that they would put in somewhere in Dubai, for example, right? So you need to adapt that and connect with you personally, yeah? Because that is the beauty of it, you know? It's like I said, your home is a three-dimensional vision board. Make sure it is representing who you are. And it's also aligned with the future that you desire. And that is depending on who you are, where you live and what you dream of. Do you think that Feng Shui is evolving with this ever-increasing digital and interconnected world? Well, it is in a sense that, you know, you can Feng Shui your app store or you can Feng Shui your computer or so there are things you can evolve. And every Feng Shui master is actually always adding a new way of looking at things like me as a Feng Shui master for 30 years I started really focusing on colors, yeah? Because sometimes, especially in the Asian world they go with certain colors that are more Asian traditional good luck colors. Well, over the years I received a lot of information and downloads on 24 quantum colors that actually when we work with these colors it helps us to raise a vibration to connect with our soul and to connect with the quantum field. So this is actually the 24 colors of the multifaceted diamond that we're talking about. And actually everybody can tune into that if you are looking at your app you will see that around the circle of the diamond compass there are actually 24 colors indicated, yeah?  And so I'm not going with the palette of the design the interior designer I'm focusing completely on soul colors, yeah? And so we're placing these colors even if it's just a small item of that like it could be a candle in that color, right? By placing this little acupuncture pressure points with colors just changes a vibration and people start subconsciously getting that message and there are 24 qualities that we're focusing on. So that's something that I brought in over the years what we call quantum feng shui, so with colors. So you will see over the generations and thousands of years all great feng shui masters have always brought a new concept, a new idea in to that helps because it's evolving into the awareness of that time. That is so incredible, you know recently we had our house painted and our bedroom I like very alming colors is the best way I can say it I really resonate with alming and even though gray is not my color at all there is something about particular grays that can be very relaxing and so I think our bedroom, you know basically it's white with some gray accents and like a tawny tan accents like wood accents but I took this just a risk and there was this sort of green moss color so that's that in North so our bedroom is North and it is on the North wall and I thought gosh I don't know how this is gonna go in here I don't, and I actually asked the painter because I was so nervous, you know I was playing with some colors and he said I think it'll look great and my God, it is so gorgeous you walk in the room and that's the wall you see is this beautiful just rich green color and it actually makes the room so this stuff you're talking about especially when you resonate with that color it just can make or break how you look where you are, your location, everything I even think cars, you know what color you're gonna get in your car interior, exterior, I'm into all of that Yeah and so true, you know people that are in tune with energy they will feel more that, you know colors are living beings, yeah they're living qualities and so sometimes they come to people's homes and their houses are so monotone and I go my God, we have to get a pop of color in here right, even if it's just literally pillows yeah that you place in a sofa or you put some candles or you know, you can just play with that it doesn't have to be suddenly painting everything around you to be honest, right it's just that you need to see that what is, what works for you, right and but there's definitely in the bedroom colors I would never wear, never put in that's reds, yeah I don't say pop of reds, it's okay but like red curtains or red carpet or red walls, it's too much fire and so I would say would you sleep when there's a fire around you you wouldn't, subconsciously it's a no the same with blues if you would have like blue walls or blue carpets or blue covers again, would you sleep when you're drowning in water okay, so you have to think about it so water and fire, there can be pops of it but nothing major, right and so many times people say like I can't sleep, it's too much red, yeah or I always feel like so restless and I feel like I'm depressed because it's too much water, yeah so water images, fire images don't put that in your bedroom, yeah Genius, I have two questions for you before we end the first is I have a quote from you Marie which is move forward without fear and even if you have fear, move forward anyway even if your knees are knocking I know you have a new TV show do you mind to tell us about it and were you nervous? Well, yeah, so one of the things this last year when I turned 60, I was like I got this amazing voice in the morning like go mainstream and so I was like, you know I'm known in the self-help and spiritual world but mainstream I'm not perhaps yet I need to bring Feng Shui forward so I created a TV show Feng Shui Alive of course I attracted the amazing business partner and the first airing will actually be done on to be on the Fox platform so in the coming months so if going Fox is not mainstream, right I don't know what it is so I'm super excited it will be of course on their app so was I nervous? No, I'm never nervous I'm like I'm so in a flow I love being in front of a camera it's something I learned from being in The Secret that was actually my first on-camera interview ever was The Secret so I was so unknown that was my first interview but I would say yes it's I'm not nervous because I'm on purpose this is what I'm doing and we're doing already a second season in the coming months so yeah it's like everybody's super excited about it and I do believe that so many support can be given to families and to businesses if they have good Feng Shui Congratulations I am so so so happy for you and Marie this is Dare to Dream what are you next Dare to Dream what are your future dreams and goals? Wow that's a good question to ask well I would say I really my dream for the next 10 years is to as I reach The Secret with The Secret 500 million that now with Feng Shui I would reach 500 million people and to have a lot of TV shows coming up and we do some other TV shows so I really want to be a transformational TV mogul in the next 10 years Yes I see that for you thank you so so much for coming on the show and folks the book is called Feng Shui Your Life her name is Marie Diamond you can get this on Amazon also find out more about her on her website MarieDiamond.com and her show's coming out on Fox if you would like to follow and learn more how to have an exceptional business and personal life and I end today's show with this quote from Marie Diamond a misconception about Feng Shui is that you need to spend a lot of money however painting walls, buying new furniture filling your home with expensive crystals none of this is necessary I believe that Feng Shui is most effective when you make the most of what you already have whether it's learning how to best sort away clutter giving your rooms a thorough dusting and closets a complete sort through or buying some colorful candles from your local store Feng Shui can be practiced at any budget all you need is a little creativity be sure to subscribe to this number one transformation conversation dare to dream with Debbie Daschinger next week's on the show I will be featuring several amazing guests Octurus Ra will be here Dr. Greta Chamberlain and Robert Quicksilver all to channel Shed Light and offer direction in this ever changing world remember it can just be a candle or a post-it that can change your life dare to dream


What's up navigation traders? Another month is in the books. I can't believe it's already the fourth quarter of 2017 But September is done. So I wanted to give you a quick update on the performance of navigation alerts If we take a look at the quick summary, we have 13 closed trades 10 of those were winners total profit a little over $829 so last couple months have been awesome with with 100% winners in this case. We had a few close out that were losers. It's still a profitable month and You know, you might be thinking okay big deal $829 but we're doing minimal contract size here So, you know, we're risking anywhere from 500 to a couple thousand dollars per trade So let's say total capital at risk at any one time is maybe 10,000 You know, so if you were to scale that up if you have a larger account and you're doing 10 times the amount of contracts We're trading instead of $829 you're looking at over 8,000 a month. So you can scale this on any level I trade these alerts super super small because I want Those who have smaller accounts to understand that they can trade these strategies and have consistent profits So let's take a look at all the strategies that we traded this month a really well-rounded diversified strategy portfolio We had iron condors short strangles calendar spreads short straddle butterfly spread Shortput vertical short call vertical long put vertical so we're taking some directional trades in here with these vertical spreads and then the majority of our trades are Delta neutral income generating strategies that we use and teach every day at navigation trading, but that's the power of our methodology We're not we're not just trading iron condors or just trading strangles or dress just trading Put spreads or call spreads It's it's so important to have a variety of strategies and not only diversify the underlying symbols that you trade But to diversify the different strategies you trade and that's the key to consistent profits Let's go to our platform and dive into the different strategies that we traded this month Amazon was the first closing trade we had we did an iron condor and as you can see we had to make several Adjustments before closing this trade closed it out for a total profit of two hundred and seventy seven dollars Next we had a short strangle in apple and this was one of those nice ones where we just put it on And took it off and booked that profit Same thing in alibaba. We did an iron condor. No adjustments necessary. Put it on and took it off Iron condor in gld in gold. So made a nice quick profit in there TLT calendar spread So we we had to adjust this a couple times ended up taking a little loser on that one So that was one of our losses In Lowe's and Disney. So these were both kind of trades based around the disastrous Hurricanes that happened last month and which was really bad situation for a lot of people But what we were able to do is take advantage of some of the implied volatility And some of the overreaction in some cases with with both Lowe's and Disney And we got out of both of those for a profit Qqq we did an iron condor in nazek booked a profit there Fxc iron condor booked a profit there one of our other losers was was corn We did an iron condor in the corn futures had to make a few adjustments got back Some of the loss but ended up with a small loss of just over 131 in corn Did a short call vertical kind of a directional play in ebay booked a profit there And then fxc was also another directional play in the euro Looking for some downside there didn't get enough We if we would have held this a couple days longer We probably would have got back to break even But you can't trade in hindsight. So we show all of our trades winners and losers You can't say what you would have done the numbers the profit tells the actual story So we took a loss on that one And then lastly in fxi, which is the chinese large cap etf We did a butterfly spread and closed that out for a winner So this can all be found if you're a current navigation alert subscriber This is found in your members area. Just click on close trades If you're not an alert subscriber and you want to learn more about how we book Consistent profits trading these strategies Just go to navigation trading calm click on navigation alerts And for new members, we're still running a special So you can take a two week trial of navigation alerts get full access for two weeks for just seven dollars Hope this was helpful talk to you next time


Okay, we're back. I'm Jay Fidel, and we're here on ThinkTech, and this is Bigotry in America. And we're talking today about the Holocaust that passed over, which starts actually tomorrow. And the question of the day is, is it being forgotten? And Peter Hoffenberg is with us. He's been here before. He's a professor at the university. He's also Jewish after you have to crank that in. And he is speaking in his individual capacity, not as a representative of the university or anybody else. Right, or any Jewish organization. Yeah. Right. Thank you. All right. First, I want to say why I'm wearing this. I just came back from the legislature at a run because they spent the last couple of hours dealing with the death with dignity, medical aid, and dying bill, which has been in and out of the legislature for like 20 years. And after a Herculean effort this year, well, last year and this year, they passed it to 23 out of 25 senators voted against it. A couple of three of them voted, I mean, 23 out of 25 voted for it. A couple of the ones who voted for it voted with reservations, and they took a long time to express the reservations. But after all of that, 23 out of 25 passed it. And David, he has said that he will sign it upon presentation. So we now effectively, within a few weeks, we will have this law, this new law, this new progressive law, happy to say death with dignity or medical aid and dying. This is a good thing. And I'm fresh from it. I'm very excited. What you have here is a scoop. And that's not what we're here to discuss though, Peter. Right. But I will have reservations about everything I say too. It's a good lead-in, right? You're not running for office, are you? No, from office. There it is. So our topic today is the Holocaust at Passover. Is it being forgotten? And there's two things I'd like to sort of set the stage with. One is Passover starts tomorrow. The first Saturday night is tomorrow night. And we can talk about the story of Passover. I think that's important. People hear that. But also a piece that appeared in this morning New York Times, an op-ed piece by a rabbi in Los Angeles. And he spoke about how the Jewish religion has been essentially forgotten in large part around the world since World War II, since the Holocaust. And you can find synagogues all over the world that are effectively non-functioning. They have become auditoriums. They have become museums. Or they have become synagogues that don't have a minion, which is 10 people to actually pray together. And the ghosts, he called it the ghosts. The ghosts of Judaism around the world in so many cities. It's not just in Europe where the Holocaust took place, but it's in Asia. It's everywhere. These temples used to be so vibrant and everything. And now they're ghosts. It's a very interesting piece if you get a chance to see it in New York Times. So anyway, that sets the stage. And I guess I'm really wondering where we are here in 2018 on Passover. And like you described the story of that. And where Judaism is, and especially where anti-Semitism is in 2018. Is that a multiple compound question? Well, that should take several pass-overs. I think that's Passover plus Hanukkah and every other holiday. So where would you like to begin? It's up entirely. Let's begin with the story of Passover. I think most folks, particularly in the Islamic and Christian worlds, know about the story of Passover. They certainly read the biblical accounts and such about the Jews living in Egypt or what was Egypt. Having been invited and living there under relatively good terms. And it's a somewhat classic story where an immigrant group, in this case Jews, are invited. They live decently. Not first-class citizens, but decently. And then there's a political regime change. And that certainly is relevant today for immigrants who were invited somewhere and lived. And then politics changed. And Jews, as is the wording, now live under a pharaoh who did not really know them. And so very briefly, I think the story for folks is that Moses at the center leads rebellion against what was slavery. Negotiates. You can think Charlton Heston, Yule Brenner as people of generation. I would think of negotiating for freedom. And again, in a not unique situation, the options are between continuing as slaves or essentially leaving. And so, again, I think people would resonate with that today. You stay and have no freedom or you leave. And we wander for 40 years through the desert, which is one of the reasons that some of us Jews do not like to camp, because that was not particularly a good camping experience. We'll probably talk about the other, the second major camping experience, which was also not a particularly good one. After fleeing the pharaoh's troops, a series of plagues, of course. They wander for 40 years and then enter the Promised Land. And so I think if you are living next to a Jewish family or you know Jewish people, you'll see us suffering under matzah, which is unleavened bread because we had to flee before we could leaven the bread, which means all gastroenterologists will be particularly busy this week and next week, and we'll try to recover. We have a ceremonial meal which honors the experience, such as the mortar used to build the bricks built as slaves. It resonates with spring, so you'll have paschal lamb, etc. Of course, the last supper was a seder, so if one follows the life of Jesus. So I think this is one of the holidays, which is probably most well-known among non-Jews. Well, a lot of it is the story, the story winding up in Canaan after 40 years. And Canaan is the modern-day Israel, isn't it? So there's a big Israel factor in this next year in Jerusalem. That's been the mantra for what, 5,000 years. And so this is a story with lots of parts, but very memorable. And it's a story because of the seder, where you get to tell the story in some detail with iconic food and things, iconic pieces on the table that connect up with the meal.  Right. Well, the understanding is to somewhat bridge history in space. I would say it's our transubstantiation. So everyone, Catholics out there, they can understand. Because at some point during the seder, everybody who is attending the seder, reading or listening, is supposed to feel as if they were there. So it's not just the story, but it's actually the retelling of the story and the retelling of the story in essentially the same order. So one could go and read Haggadot, which is the prayer book for the saders in the medieval times. And one would find the story essentially the same as what one would get off of the web today. So it is the story, but it also is the telling of the story in a particular way, and the repeating of the story in a particular way. And the songs, and the litany. The songs, of course. And those are the same prayers, the same songs, the same inquiries year after year through your life and the lives of untold millennia, I mean untold generations in millennia after millennia. So it really does leave an impression. I can't think of any other part really of the Jewish religion or any religion where, you know, you are exposed to such detail about that event and any event like that on a repeated basis. And yes, I agree with you, you're there. The whole experience puts you there. And thus you remember it, and you incorporate it into your worldview. I do, I do, I tell you that. So you can see how very important it became in American history, particularly in African American history. So slavery, telling the stories of slavery, telling the stories of wandering. Black America had its Moses characters. And very importantly for Moses, and again, folks who saw the movie or read the Torah or the Bible as it might be called, will understand that Moses committed sin. And because he committed sin, he was not allowed to go into the promise land. So you can see it resonates in a very tragic way with somebody like MLK Jr., or Malcolm, or Frederick Douglass, who were major figures leading African Americans out of enslavement who didn't, who never, we haven't really reached the promised land, of course, as far as racial equality. But that resonated with the Moses story. So it's Joshua, of course, who leads the people and the tribes into the promised land. But you could say this, this is a condition of humanity, that humanity is always seeking freedom. And so the Passover story remains relevant, sometimes even more relevant than before, with not only the Jews, but really a lot of people in the world who seek freedom, yeah. I think they, they seek freedom and we could have a philosophical discussion the next time. Right. I think freedom is the noble idea. I think probably if we scratch the surface unfortunately, most people prefer order and stability. And that's part of the tension here, right? Because there were also Jews who would not go with Moses. And as Jews wandered the 40 years in the desert, there were those who became nostalgic for Egypt, even though Egypt was enslavement, Egypt was what they knew. Egypt was order. So those of those folks who may not even be interested in religion can see this fundamental human tension between, as you say, freedom, either individual or corporate, but also the drive to have stability and order. So one of the great tensions in those 40 years, and you can see this with immigrants everywhere, right? Do, I'm not going to risk because freedom is uncertainty, freedom is difficult. Rousseau said, freedom is easy to swallow, difficult to digest. And Egypt, or where you came from, is what you knew. Let's remember tragically that there were, it's not a large number of people, but it's, but it's not insignificant number of people who move from Europe to North America and then move back to Europe in the 30s in part. It's a bad time to move back. You can't think of a worse time. You really cannot think of a worse time. And there were a variety of reasons. But among those was the intense American anti-Semitism in the 1930s by the Coughlin and such an intense and economic difficulties. And they had family back in Europe and they knew Europe. It's one thing, you know, European anti-Semitism was known. You knew, you knew how to operate among, until the Nazis rose, of course. But the standard European and expected European anti-Semitism was horrific. But many folks were able to negotiate because it wasn't genocidal anti-Semitism.  You can't negotiate with that. But, you know, not being able perhaps to live in a particular area or not being able to be in a particular profession was something that Jews and other minority groups have lived with forever. But having everything stolen, your children murdered, that, of course, was beyond the pale. But also something that most people in the 1930s had no recognition of. So the folks who moved back, you know, moved back with incomplete or no knowledge. It's not a moth going to a flame. It's just that America wasn't the promised land. When they moved back, there were not that many of them. I mean, this was not a grand move. No, it's not. But it's, you know, we always debate about numbers and how representative. But it's not insignificant. And certainly, most of them perish. Yeah. That was one of those really bad mistakes. Right. So compressing, you know, at 5,000 years of history, you know, after they got to Canaan, after Passover, there was the diaspora. And the diaspora in large part was successful. I mean, the Jews flourished in many places in the world. Yes, there was anti-Semitism, but it was in a lot of places it was bad but manageable. In some places, it wasn't so bad and they flourished as part of the local community and culture and all that. But the war and the Nazism really changed that. And the peace in the times, you know, stand for the proposition where there were people, lots of people practicing their religion in so many cities. Now that's not the case. And now furthermore we have, I'm just reading the paper here, we have a resurgence of anti-Semitism. So right after this break, I would like to discuss with you the title question of our show, which is, the Holocaust at Passover, is it, and it refers to, I guess, the Holocaust, is it being forgotten? Are we forgetting the Holocaust? Should we remember? Should we say never again and always remember, or is it okay to forget it? And in fact, whether we say okay or not, is it being forgotten? 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Okay, we're back with Peter Hoffenberg. You can call him professor. He doesn't speak to the university, but he has a lot of ideas. He's a history professor. Actually, I really care about history a lot. You know, I don't think you can appreciate anything, much less the present, the future, anything without understanding history. And today we're talking about the history of Passover. We're talking about the Holocaust and the connection between the Holocaust and Passover starting tomorrow. And is the Holocaust being forgotten? So, you know, I put that question to you, you know, that Passover is supposed to help us remember the hard times in Egypt. And in remembering maybe, I don't know, there's something bittersweet about it. It brings us together as a community. It makes us understand the human condition maybe a little better. And it makes us, you know, connect with Judaism, I suppose. But what's the role of the Holocaust? And in the Passover Haggadah, there's, and the ones I've seen, always references to the Holocaust, which, you know, happened a long time after Egypt. But why is that? What's the connection between Passover and the Holocaust? It's a superb question and many answers. So as we say, right? Two Jews, three opinions. So let me give you six. Let me start from the middle and develop out. The middle argues that this was a unique event and not unique at the same time. And I think that's part of the tension. And what I mean by that is not that the Holocaust is being forgotten, but the Holocaust is either being normalized. So if we use the word genocide, it's one more genocide. Or the Holocaust is being compared to other things. And inevitably, when we make a comparison, we say one is stronger, weaker, one is more significant or not. So Yehuda Bauer, a dear friend and really the head rabbi of Holocaust studies, doesn't use the word unique. What he says is the Holocaust was unprecedented. And in saying unprecedented, that does not mean that other genocides or other mass murders, it does not mean that the experience of transatlantic slavery is better or worse. These are essentially events that stand on their own. So to answer your question, I don't think the Holocaust is being forgotten. I think it's being used and abused. So for example, people calling the Israelis Nazis are calling Netanyahu Hitler. So that's an abuse. The height of irony. Right. But also it's being in a certain degree normalized. All of history is filled with this. This is one example. And then I certainly do not want to offend in any way any of your listeners. But in the West, it's become a certain degree a Christian moment where I have read materials that equate the death of Jews, the murder of Jews in Auschwitz with the crucifixion. There were post visit surveys at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in D.C. And many of the high school kids came out saying they now understand Jesus better. So what's happening is it's not so much a Jewish event and it's not so much an event which stands on its own. So I wouldn't exactly say forgotten. I would say relativized, normalized. It would be as if you took an event like Atlantic slavery and removed the overwhelming fact that those were black Africans who were enslaved and used it as a discussion of other forms of slavery in which slavery is a widespread issue. And this is just one example rather than recognizing the horrors of 20 million people ripped from the continent of Africa under beyond inhumane conditions. So I don't mean to be overly professorial with you, but it's a really good question because there are curricula, which include the Holocaust. There's a Holocaust Remembrance Day, there's Yom HaShoah, but by the same token. That's a day dedicated to the Holocaust. They're very different. So Holocaust Remembrance Day, for example, is a day where we talk about the relationship between and among genocides. There's usually a mayor or a governor who says it's Holocaust Remembrance Day. And it's a community, a little bit of a community kumbaya moment. Yom HaShoah. Yom HaShoah, Andy, are we speaking about the Jewish community? Wherever you live, no, I mean wherever you live. It's where the community gets together and well-intentioned individuals who are very well-intentioned have good hearts come. I feel badly about it, promised never to let it happen again. And that's a community as in state, a political community, neighborly community. But in the Jewish community is Yom HaShoah. And that's the day where if you're in Israel, everything stops. People get out of their cars. It's like in Europe after the First World War, 11th hour, 11th day, 11th month, still to this day. So if any of your viewers want to catch a bus at 11 a.m., November 11th in London, you're not going to catch that bus. If you want to catch your check in Berlin, you're not going to catch that bus. How interesting. It's a moment of remembrance, but particularly by and among originally veterans and now children and grandchildren. We here also will have a Yom HaShoah service on April 11th. The goal of that is to remember those who both were murdered but also escaped or survived because their memory, the memory of the escapees and the memory of the children of survivors, those are valuable memories. There's a lot of discussion about the last survivor passing away. Like two years ago, the last American veteran of the First World War passed away. But it's not as if their children or their community don't still have control over the memory and control over the stories and narratives. So you ask a very important question. I would say no, it's not being forgotten, but it is being modified and tweaked and used and relativized and sometimes used to hit Jews over the head with. Right, right. So does that answer? I hope it does. Yeah, but I want to go a little further with it. I want every answer should have a couple of questions. Of course, it's the sausage theory. You go from link to link. Right, kosher. This is Tom Munich sausages. So back to the New York Times article and fewer and fewer synagogues and a lot of assimilation, a lot of assimilation. And perhaps here in Hawaii there's a certain amount of Jewish education. That doesn't mean there's a lot of Jewish education everywhere. In fact, I would say there isn't and it's declining. There are other things you want to do in your life and that's just not one of them. At the same time, you have an increase in only reading the Times in anti-Semitism. And recently in the south of France, an 85-year-old woman was attacked in her home and stabbed 11 times because she was Jewish. And that's rampant. The body was burned. Thank you for that. Yeah. Bottom line is we have some pretty gross anti-Semitism going in against the backdrop of the Holocaust didn't take place, the Jews are lying about the Holocaust, they're making it up. And there are people, Peter, you know this, who believe that? Right now, today, people in this country, people in our educational system, they believe it's all made up. So you can say that the people around the Passover Seder, they remember. You can say the community, the common good kind of community, people who care, moderate kind people, they remember. But the larger community and the country and the world, do they remember? Well, I think the two main claims you're making need not be causal. So in other words, you can remember the Holocaust and remain a very learned anti-Semite. They're not mutually exclusive. And I think that's one of the things that the Jewish community has to recognize, that anti-Semitism, noting anti-Semitism, honoring our dead, honoring the Holocaust, is in fact not necessarily going to dilute or reduce anti-Semitism. I mean, it's connected to Israel. An argument is often made that Israeli policies are resulting in anti-Semitism, what's sometimes called the new anti-Semitism. Now, you know, that may or may not be, but that puts the Palestinians and Israel as little chess pieces. And I can promise you, I will give you my mint Mickey Mantle rookie card, that if Israel were to stop doing many of the really illegal and unacceptable things to some Palestinians, there would still be plenty of anti-Semitism. I'm with you. I don't have a Mickey Mantle card, but I'm with you. So people care about the Palestinians, just care about them as human beings. Don't connect it to somehow anti-Semitism. And we have to care about the Holocaust, and we also can't expect that our discussion of the Holocaust will somehow make people hate Jews less. The Germans and the Austrians, for example, experiencing this by outlawing Holocaust denial. It has not removed anti-Semitism. The Nazi party is illegal in Germany. The fascist party is illegal in Italy. Both of them have now been redressed up, and both of those have candidates. I got two more questions. I don't know if we can fit them in. I'll come back. Okay. Unfortunately, this is what Robert Westrick calls the longest hatred. This will continue well after our discussion today. That's it. Gee, let's talk about what we're going to talk about next time. Next time, Peter, I'd like to talk about where this global anti-Semitism came from. Why? You and me are ordinary people, the Jews are ordinary people that try hard to live and have families and do right in the world, and they have a rich heritage of all of that. Why is it that in every age and every generation we suffer this kind of anti-Semitism, even now, even after the horror of World War II, people really still do it? I find that kind of extraordinary flaw in humanity, if you will. We can talk about this next time. I think of those guys emerging out of the Warsaw ghetto, the ones who said, never again, I am not going to tolerate this again, the ones who fought in the war of 1948 vigorously in order to save Judaism and in order to save Israel. Where are they now? Do we have people, I guess we do, do we have people who will fight that fight? Do we have people who believe so strongly that they are a force that will stop anti-Semitism? And I'm not sure if anyone is actually advocating that, but there was member Meyer Kahane. Of course, the JDL, of course. And he felt that you actually went out there and said, never again, with a club or a gun, he said. With a gun. And they committed violent acts in during the crazy times of the late 60s and early 1970s. We could talk about that. I don't advocate the JDIs. And part of anti-Semitism is the difficulty in distinguishing, if we want to make this distinction, between words and actions. And if we want to make those distinctions, so it's easy if you don't make the distinction, because then you can outlaw anything. But I think our tradition, our very valuable American tradition, is really to try to make a distinction between what you say and what you do. But we are struggling with that intellectually. And we're struggling with not only are they separate, but how do we determine when the words will lead a reasonable person to think that an action would result? It's a great challenge. It's a great challenge for the Jewish people. It's a great challenge for anybody who appears at a Seder tomorrow or Saturday. And it's a great challenge for a history professor as well. And when we come back, I also want to talk about Catholicism. I want to talk about the Inquisition. I want to talk about the king and queen. Was it Ferdinand and Isabella in 1892, how they were treated as the most Catholic of all rulers in Europe? And what does that mean vis-à-vis the Inquisition? What a question. Well, to whet your appetite, you may or may not know this, that Benjamin Netanyahu's brother, of course, was the only Israeli killed in Tebi. And that influences him tremendously for a variety of reasons we can talk about. His father was a well-known professor at Cornell who wrote a book about the length of at least three books in the Torah, saying that the Inquisition was essentially the dress rehearsal for the Shoah. Oh, my God. So there's a lot. And this is not necessarily a pick on Netanyahu, but Netanyahu may be the face for anti-Semites. Certainly, Netanyahu is one of the faces who is targeted. And we can talk about Israeli politics and whether some are justified or not. But his own fascinating life history embodies so much and explains a lot of the never-again. His father linking the two, his brother dying. But having said that, he's also a pretty clever politician. So Netanyahu may say never again, but he's on the phone with lots of different people. More than happy. I'm happy to talk about the religious tradition. There's a biological tradition. I think one of the ways for your listeners, if they're interested, to think about this is that anti-Semitism is essentially a form of racism, essentially. So if we look at why people are racist, we can help to begin to understand why people accept that there have also been Jewish institutions. But there again, black churches are targeted in the south as institutions of African American spirituality. So there are some very important parallels. But I think for listeners, thinking about why racism arose, why we can't get rid of it, how we might distinguish between racial words and racial actions also do apply. The irony is in many of these countries, Jews are really a relatively small minority. Well, and we'll connect that with whether humankind is perfectible or imperfectible. If you don't mind, that's my inquiry. That's only two or three minutes to decide that. Of course, that's easy. Of course. Peter Haffenberger, he's been Professor at UH, wonderful to talk to you. Next time again soon. Of course.