Also, this is our last conversation of the day, of the week. So we've saved, I think, the timeliest for last. And there's been a lot of referencing to immigration throughout the two days. And we started off yesterday in our politics panel with a lot of optimism. I think immigration was the one glimmer of hope that people pointed to as a subject that Congress has taken on in a constructive way. And I think that that panel sort of already chocked it up on the scoreboard. It's something that's been accomplished. Today it's a little cloudier, so maybe tomorrow we'll give us a bit of a reality check in terms of where things stand on the Hill. But let me introduce, we have 40 minutes for immigration reform. And that's a lot to cover, but because this is New America and we add value even beyond that, we're going to pivot and talk about how this immigration debate fits in with the larger demographic trend of the US becoming majority minority nation. So to my immediate right, we have Tamar Jacoby, who is one of the people who is most informed on all things immigration in town. She's a Schwartz fellow at the New America Foundation. She also runs Immigration Works, which is a group trying to bring businesses together to make immigration reform happen. We have Alexandra Starr, an Emerson fellow here at New America, who's a prolific writer for many outlets on immigration. And in a similar vein to Jason's has really brought the issue to life by focusing on individual families and what immigration means to them. And also to what the nexus between immigration and entrepreneurship in Silicon Valley. And then to the far right, we have Gregor Rodriguez, who is one of the founding fathers of New America. I could say he was one of the early fellows, yeah. And he's also the founding publisher of Zocalo Public Square, our venture out in LA. And he runs the Center for Social Cohesion at our partner institution, Arizona State University. So thanks all for being here. Tamar, so start us off. I mentioned that it seemed, I was very optimistic last night after hearing the politics conversation. But you know that I'm a bit wary because I'm still a little traumatized from what happened in 2006 and 2007. When it seemed like comprehensive immigration reform was going to happen.  And then something happened. Which was members of Congress heard from some of their constituents who fell very strongly about this and it all got derailed. And here we are again. You've been very much involved in the negotiations, working with the gang of eight in the Senate. Again, the sort of model group that we were praising yesterday as a constructive example of bipartisanship. And they certainly have made tremendous advance. I mean, given where we might have expected them, this issue to be a year ago, which was just in think tank land because nobody in Congress wanted to touch it, we had an election. People looked at the results and some of the trends in terms of who was voting for whom, and suddenly there's been a lot of progress. But we have a lot long ways to go. We haven't brought the house into the process in the same way. So just sketch out for us, what are the remaining hurdles? How optimistic are you? And what are the things that we should keep our eyes on as we track the progress of this legislation? Because I feel like there's still a lot that hasn't been resolved beyond sort of the headlines of people wanting to make it happen. So great question, Andreas, and thank you for the opportunity. In some ways, I'm the worst person to ask because I am right on the front lines. And it's kind of the famous war and peace description of the battle of Waterloo, you know the least about what's going on when you're kind of there in the middle of the battle. But there's eight members of the Senate who are working on this and eight members in the House and one of the eight House members who I won't name. But he has a kind of a great riff that's worth quoting where he says, the chances of this passing and us getting it done have never been this good. The President sees it as his legacy and the Republicans see it as their political future and business and labor is with us and Intel and Microsoft are with us. Then he pauses for comic effect. Chances have never been so good. He pauses for comic effect. I'll give it about a 5% chance. I'm not that pessimistic. I think I'm kind of at the 50-50 point. But this is 536 different people with thousands of people behind them trying to make a Swiss watch. And there's a lot of momentum, but getting that Swiss watch workable is not easy. So the Senate bill in brief I think is a good bipartisan compromise. I think they did really look for sweet spots and by and large, I think they found them, kind of the three big ones. It is a kind of humane, practical answer to the 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the country. But it combines that with a pretty tough-minded determination to enforce the rule of law on the border and in the workplace, big sweet spot. It does take our traditional family-oriented approach to immigration and rebalance it to make it more employment-based who we let in. And that's a huge shift. It will be a big, important shift going forward, important balance. And on the 11 million, it's a path to citizenship, but it's not a direct or special path. So in many ways, on these big, grand bargain things, they've done a good job.  Obviously, kind of the big, everybody who reads the newspaper knows I'm gonna have a harder time in the House than the Senate.  It's a little bit of a stereotype and misleading. There is a lot of ferment in the House.  And there definitely is a sea change. People understand that Republicans are never gonna see the inside of the White House again if we don't get on the right side of this. That doesn't necessarily tell you what the something is and whether people can come around to before, certainly, I don't think the Senate bill is gonna wash in the House or play in the House. So the question is, can the House come up with something that's close enough? What is most objectionable to House members about what the senators told us? I mean, there's lots of different things, but so the new amnesty. Last time, amnesty was the amnesty.  It's gonna be cost, Obamacare, welfare. When I ride airplanes now, the person next to me doesn't say what part of illegal don't you understand. They say, what's it gonna cost when we bring all these people into the system? I think there's an answer to that, but I think that's what a lot of Republicans need to be able to go home and talk about. I also think every office you go in, the first thing they say is I have to do something, and the second thing they say is, but I can't be back here in 10 or 15 years dealing with another big bunch of unauthorized immigrants. And so they naturally gravitate to the border as the answer for that. The border isn't actually the best answer to that. The best answer to that is a legal way for the workers we need to come to the country. But that's a step further in reasoning than you can necessarily get in a TV sound bite. So and the public hasn't really spoken. That's the other big obstacle. Up to now, the public hasn't been paying attention. My new idea is that maybe the best way to get to comprehensive immigration reform is if we could keep adding on the scandals. But so the public will be paying attention to other things. But the truth is, we just don't know, polls show that the public is for it. We don't know if when this gets to be on the top item in the news, the reaction is gonna be a shrug, which is what a lot of people think the reaction is gonna be, or, as in 06 and 07, another roar of saying don't do it. That's a, have the polls changed significantly from what they were in 2006, 2007, because back then, majorities were backing what Congress was advancing with the president back. It just had to do with the ferocity of the opposition of a minority of people. But have the headline polls changed? The polls show that many fewer people think this is a threat to the country now, which is good. So there's less fodder for, I mean, the polls always were a mix, right? The polls were, people saying them for comprehensive reform includes a lot of enforcement, but there was also a lot of ambivalence about immigration. And I don't know that that ambivalence has changed, how salient the threat it seems to be has changed somewhat. It also seems like a few months ago, the big divide, even when we, once we got to the point where everybody, there was a consensus that we had to do something, we, you know, being members of Congress at reading election results, it seemed like the big divide was between those that were going to favor a pathway to citizenship for the legalized undocumented population versus those who felt, well, let's go ahead, okay, fine, let's legalize them, give them legal residence. But it's going to be a cul-de-sac. There is going to be no pathway to citizenship. That seems, we seem to, we have seemed to move beyond that. At least my understanding, is that going to, is that going to stick in the house? I think that's going to come up again in the house. I don't know if it's going to be the obstacle. We see, we haven't, it's so far it's been a very elite conversation. So far it's been, you know, you and eight senators. Well, but it's, you know, it hasn't yet gotten the rank and file House Republicans really, really into it. And they are, again, they want to come along. Leadership wants to bring them along. But how far they can come is not yet at all clear. So would you wager that the president will be signing immigration reform, something that looks to us like comprehensive reform that takes care of the undocumented population, creates a sustainable pathway, you know, a legalized flow of workers in the future. And that we can just kind of check the south of us. I hate to say this, but it really depends on what time of day you ask me. Well, I'm asking you at 106. It was, yeah, you know, I would not bet my house or my car or my glasses on it. So Alexander, would you wager that it's going to pass? And also, you know, when you step back from, you know, the, the question of what may or may not be in the legislation, at least the contours of what we're talking about, what strikes you as, is this continuity with, you know, each generation, there seems to be a major reform of immigration. Does this represent continuity with the recent approach or what strikes you as a, as a big departure perhaps? So I would say the biggest change in this bill is how we would accept immigrants going forward. So currently, we have a system that you could say is mostly family reunification based, but also employer based. And that's where employers petition for visas on behalf of foreigners whom they want to hire under this bill. And it's a pretty big departure. They would create a point system. They would eliminate some of the family visas, like for, say, adult married children. And they would, those visas, you know, whatever, was it 40,000 or so? Like, and it increases over time, would be allocated based on a point system. And the best known point systems in the world are Australia and Canada. And the ideas that we would allocate points based on attributes like level of education, your English proficiency, your job experience. So that is potentially huge. I mean, it's a really big change. But it's not the only track, right? They're not replacing all employment based on family. Just adding that as part one track. But do we know how this will play out in practice? I mean, one of the things that's striking when you look back, say, at the 65 landmark legislation, immigration reform, and we were talking about this the other day, when President Lyndon Johnson signed this piece of legislation in it in the year when they were passing all sorts of other hugely important pieces of legislation, he actually said, and most of the members of Congress involved said, this isn't going to really change anything. I mean, his statement, usually when a president signs, you know, a bill into law, the tendency is to hype the significance of it. But the statement was pupuda to such an extent. He practically said, I don't know why I'm bothering, you know, wasting my time signing this thing. And it was a huge sea change in terms of immigration, in terms of diversifying the population that we talk about when we talk about immigrants. But it wasn't clear at the time that they were doing that. I think experts might have had a better sense of what was about to happen because of the new emphasis on family and revisiting some of the old quotas. But do we know how this would actually, this shift would play out in practice over time? Well, there was a quote, I think some Senate staffers said that they thought eventually visas, about 50% of visas would be allocated based on skills, which is a pretty big change from what we have now. Is it about 85% or allocated based on family reunification? Now, two-thirds family and 7% employment based. So, now, the thing, you've actually made a comment before, I thought your comments were terrific and so on the point. You made a comment about how we would be moving more to an employment-based visa system. I would actually argue it's sort of more skills-based, right? That's the way a point system oftentimes works. So, a question is, like, how will it work? It'll be intriguing to see. And it really depends on how you decide to allocate points. You can give a lot of points for having an existing job offer in the United States. So then, maybe things don't change so much. You can also give a lot of points for having a U.S. degree. Again, we can guess that those people are oftentimes going to have an easier time finding work just because when they go to employers, they're going to have a better sense of how to rank them or how to evaluate them. I will say I spoke with people in both the Canadian and Australian government. They have tweaked their point system so often, so many times over the years, and they have people who they let in who can't find jobs. You know, it's the way someone presents on a piece of paper or resume is not the way they might, how they might interact with employers. So, that's something to think about.  Australia and Canada also have parliamentary systems where they can be very agile in their response to events on the ground. So, when they saw a lot in Canada, you know, a lot of people with PhDs in engineering degrees who were driving cabs, they tweaked their system. And actually, ironically, they made it more like ours. So, I would argue that since we may be going towards a point system, we really have to be careful that we too can be agile in responding to events on the ground, because we have not obviously evinced that quality over the past 25 years. And a point system cannot run on autopilot the way arguably you could say family reunification and employer-based visa allocation can, because you have family members sort of making the choice and employers making the choice. Here, government is the one screening these applications, and that means that we have to be very responsive to whether the people we're letting in are actually doing well once they arrive. And you dodged the wagering part of the question. Are you in?  The change is just striking. You know what, I've been covering this for a while and it's just stunning to me like how far people have moved towards being receptive to reform. So, in a way, I am optimistic. I would say this, though, even if nothing else passes, they're going to pass a version of the DREAM Act. They're going to do... Now, that's obviously not going to solve the whole problem, but there'll be something. Let me ask you, temporary worker visas. I know, Tamar, you've been very involved and actually influential in making this round of immigration reform so that we don't revisit this question 10, 20 years ago. Another need to legalize undocumented workers because we didn't have a mechanism for people to come here legally. But are you worried at all that when we talk about temporary workers, there's always the comparison made to the European experience. You both... Actually, all three of you have written quite a bit about that, about the differences between our approach to immigration historically and the European experience. But do you see any downsides to having this be part of the... Well, the temporary worker program, the low-skill temporary worker program in the bill is actually... It's almost a misnomer to call it a temporary worker program. Better way to call it would be provisional worker visa program because people come, it's very break the mold. It's not like any temporary worker program you've ever heard of before. The worker doesn't actually have to stay with or work for the employer who brought him in. He can go work for any other employer who's proved that he's tried to find Americans and can't. So very different in that regard. And also kind of does try to solve the problem of there's nothing more permanent than a temporary foreign worker by allowing people who... Encouraging people who want to go home to go home and work here for a while, make some money, take money home to build a house. But then allowing the people who succeed here and want to stay to get into the points track. And that's where sort of transition from being a temporary worker to being a permanent resident. And that's where the point system will be most into play. I mean there's still gonna be, half of the visas are still gonna be based on family connections. 40% of the visas are still gonna be based on employment base that has nothing to do with the point system. And the point system is one other piece. So I'm sure anything new is always an experiment. And the problem is we don't revisit immigration very often. So you start an experiment, you don't come back to it for 25 years. But I think it's gonna be a very interesting experiment. So Gregory, I haven't forgotten about you. Gregory, I should mention, is the author of Mongrel's Basterd's Orphans in Vagabonds. It's his memoir of his first 10 years at New America. It's a book I've actually read twice and I still need to look at the title when I say it. The subtitle is Mexican Immigration and the Future of Race in America. The Economist, when Gregory's book came out, described it as an indispensable guide to America's future. And I think, in terms of looking at Mexican immigration, often the Mexico nexus here, the fact that when we talk about immigration, we're also talking about the economic integration of North America often gets lost in the debate here in town. We talk about immigrants and immigration as if they just drop out of the sky because we don't pay sufficient attention to North America, the hemisphere, the relationship with Mexico, which was another subject that I was very pleased to hear came up earlier today. So you've looked at sort of the narrative of how this history of Mexican immigration has altered how Americans think of their identity and how it has reinterpreted race, understanding of race in the United States. You also are in a state of California, which in some ways has moved beyond some of this debate around immigration that we're still having in Washington that we see in some places like Arizona. There was a moment in the 90s where it seemed that that debate was at its fever pitch in California. And I've often heard you describe California now as a post-immigration, post-immigrant state. What does that mean? I mean, what's striking is that the nation as a federal level is finally grappling with this issue of undocumented and comprehensive immigration reform. On some level in Los Angeles and California as a whole, we're starting to realize, oh my goodness, we are beyond immigration. A new study, Dal Meyers at University of Southern California has called this a homegrown state. We've been receiving people from the Midwest or from the East Coast and from all around the globe for 150 years, and suddenly a majority of Californians are native born. We are California born. So the issue then is not about immigration in a place like California, which has been the poster child for immigration. The issue is integration. The issue is not about legalizing the illegal. It's not about making the foreign become native. It's about making the native born go up the ladder, be part of the whole. This is a moment in which we can talk about social cohesion. We can talk about rootedness. We can talk about a group of Californians that have more of a shared sense, and Lenny, this is all for you, a shared sense of a common future. And maybe even solve its problems. But I think at some point we're a step beyond, even though this is all incredibly important, and this is not exactly irrelevant to what we're happening to us. This would help the cause of making us more rooted and integrating the whole. But I think what's fascinating is that we're beginning to look that that's just one part of it, the legalizing the undocumented immigration reform. Now we have the bigger issue of integration, the integrating people who have never lived in any other country, but this, allowing for a mobility to higher education, to better jobs, to the middle class. So I think we're on almost to another debate even before we've even finished this one. And the trend towards a majority minority nation, is that something that is particularly meaningful or do you feel that it's just we continue to redefine what it means to be white? Late last year, there was headlines from the latest census data showed that a majority of babies for the first time were minority and it was sort of one of these tailor made stories for cable news and there was a lot done, made of that. What's the significance of any of that? It's a little bit, the drum beats a little bit tiresome in a sense it overestimates the significance of the ethnic and racial background of the population of every given place. I mean we did this in Los Angeles before we had our first Mexican-American mayor since 1870 and everybody. I mean you'd think that Margaritas were gonna come out of the water faucets. I mean suddenly the mariachis would be behind every press conference, but guess what? He was an American politician who cheated on his wife. I mean my goodness, I got a call from CNN once. What does this tell us about Latino politics? I said I'm happy to go on as long as we talk about what Bill Clinton means for about whites in politics and Jesse Jackson is about blacks in activism. They said, oh can you recommend anyone else? I can't. So I mean in a sense with the drum beat about demographic change, it's a red herring. I mean what we have are class issues and ultimately integration issues that really are, whether the babies blue, black, green, or red, we have the same fundamental problem of making this country more equal and more whole and this is all just, I mean the newspapers love it, but again in Los Angeles we're actually gonna lose our first Mexican-American mayor in a hundred years and the next mayor will either be Anglo or a Italian-Mexican-Jewish kid who's with a Rhodes Scholar, with a Rhodes Scholarship. So I mean there's some. His family is from Chihuahua. No, his father's family is Italian-Mexican. From Chihuahua. They are not. Don't claim Chihuahua on any set of. We'll talk later. Eric Garcetti told me that. He wanted us to endorse it. Well just final question on this theme. You know Samuel Huntington and others argued that there is something distinctively different about this flow of Mexicans crossing the border, that they're not gonna integrate or assimilate to the same degree because they're just taking over communities and they're not having, the melting pot has been lost because immigration is so much Mexican-driven these days and you see the growth of Spanish language, media and Spanish. And you, I mean you buy that that there's something different about this wave of immigration as opposed to, you know, Irish coming in the 19th century or Italian-American. The numbers, the close proximity to the homeland, obviously the long history, the history of conquest and annexation, yes, there is a difference. However, Huntington clearly underestimated the incredibly powerful pull of American culture. I, once I was sick about all this, writing about all this stuff and I took a 14-hour flight to Cape Town and I took an eight-day ship to Tristan de Cuna, the most remote-inhabited island on earth. I get there and somebody asked me if I had any Garth Brooks CDs. And to think that- And he did. And I did. And somehow thinking that the children born within our borders are somehow immune to the charms of Bugs Bunny, I mean, it's overstated. And again, and I think we've seen that. This is not, there's precedent for this. There's been 150 years of Mexican immigration. And do we have any great uprisings or attempts to undermine the stability of the United States? No. So you have this larger demographic reality of the growth of Latinos in the United States as a segment of the population. That seems to be driving what's happening on Capitol Hill. There's just an equation of what that demographic wants and the need to deal with this problem. To Mark correct me if I'm wrong, is that the sole driver of why things look so differently today than they did a year ago in terms of the prospects? I think it's the main driver. And I think, I mean, I think it, Gregory's absolutely right, right? The deciding who we're gonna let in is sort of in a way the easy question, creating a community is the hard question. But the politics around immigration are in some sort of crude way part of creating that community. Because I mean, yes, integration has been going on in the cities like Los Angeles and campuses like ASU and kind of in media for decades. But finally, like Republican politicians are sort of recognizing that we have Latinos in the country. And it's like Latinos have been in the room for a long time, but now a whole different political class is kind of recognizing that they're in the room. And that's, you know, that should be in a way come first, but it's an important part of creating the big community that we're talking about. And it's not just Republican politicians thinking that I'm gonna do this one vote on immigration, which is really about people, very uneducated people coming from a different country and that's gonna win me all these voters. It is, it's a little more sophisticated than that. Most of these Republicans understand we have to get that issue off the table so that we can talk to Latinos about things that they really do care about. And I mean, and that- Immigration isn't even the top three. And isn't even close, but it is a threshold issue, right? You know, what I used to say about the way Romney played it wrong, he was like an encyclopedia salesman who came to your door and the first thing he said was, I don't really like people like you, but would you like to buy my encyclopedias? And Republicans need to stop saying, when they talk about immigration, people hear I don't really like people like you and they have to stop saying that and then they have to start to listen to what Latinos care about and try to speak to those issues. And that's, so you know, this, I mean, the big step here almost will not be in the history of things will not be just passing immigration reform. We'll be getting on to that broader conversation and the fact that the immigration debate is part of getting to that broader conversation is a really good- But we're gonna get to the broader conversation even with or without immigration reform. I mean, we have our native born children we have to deal with. I mean, I want this to pass not as much as you, but I want it to pass. But the Spanishization of Southwest started along before this legislation was even discussed. And it's driven as much by births as it is by. The growth of Latino population is driven significantly more by births than by migration. Okay, so we're gonna take a little, we're gonna take questions from the audience, but I must say, Alexander has a hard break. She needs to catch a train. So we're gonna excuse you. Oh, okay. Thank you. Thank you. And so questions, comments. Lenny, since you were. I'm curious about your comment about the debates gonna be in the House on cost or the economics. And I'm curious whether you think there's actually any basis to listen to the facts on that from those who are gonna vote or is it gonna be just based on pure ideology? Well, so I mean, obviously the heritage debate, good question. And you know, it's never as simple as the facts. I mean, let's not be naive, right? I mean, the way you can answer that right there. But I mean, going beyond that a little bit.  So they got shot down immediately and a lot of conservative groups pushed back and that was really good. But I just don't, and a lot of people are saying, oh, that debate's over. I just don't think so. Again, when I sort of, at all kind of look beneath the surface out there, again, you know, people say next to me in the airplane, not a good focus group, but you know, one focus group where people are worried about everything now is what's it gonna cost? And you know, and so I just think politics is so much about people's fears and the facts are helpful, but I think that is gonna be a big part of the debate. Others? Thank you, Jeffrey. I'd like to ask you a little bit. There was an article recently, I forget where by the San Diego mayor talking about how border security is actually an impediment to economic growth as border traffic is becoming more and more intense. I'd also like to get your sense of the future of migration or immigration from Mexico illegal or illegal on the view that recent research suggests that net net it's flat and there may be as Mexico becomes a faster growing economy and outward migration of Mexicans back to Mexico because there's more economic opportunity there. Well, I'm not an expert on migration and all that's a tomorrow question really and we probably disagree on this, but my sense is that I mean, I'll just, tomorrow I think it's a behavior rooted pattern that you think will continue. I'm likely to think that actually we will see a decline as far, I mean, there are some projections that we will see decline of newcomers for as far as we can project, but. Well, we have seen it. Well, it's economic demand driven, right? So it's, I mean, the reason we have migration at the level we have in the last 30, 40 years is not, it's about Mexico, but even more, it's about our changing workforce. In 1960, half of the Americans in the workforce were high school dropouts. Today, less than 10% of the Americans in the workforce are high school dropouts. We need workers. Mexico is becoming, I used to joke, if Mexico became Switzerland overnight. Mexico is actually becoming Switzerland not too slowly. Not overnight, but it's getting there. Not overnight, but it's becoming. But I was in the fields in Fresno recently and the Mexicans were doing the supervisory work and the people doing the hard work were Hondurans. And so we're gonna need people to work in the fields and work in restaurants and work construction. And they're gonna come from further and further away. Isn't that the bigger question? Where will we get the migrants next time we need them? Yeah. Well, there's, I mean, there are a lot of reasons why the flow has pretty much gone to zero. And as you pointed out, it's compared to half a million or so a year, you know, before the recession. And it's the tougher border security, our recession, changing demographics in Mexico, which also has an aging population. I mean, the demographic change there is as dramatic as it has been in the industrialized world. It's just lagging by 20 years or so. But the numbers are picking up. As well as the economy. Right, well, partly it'll come back but maybe not to the same degree. I mean, a somewhat quirky leading economic indicator is there's an annual Gallup poll where people are asked in different countries if you could leave permanently Mexico or wherever the question's being asked, would you? The answer early this year in Mexico was 11% of the population indicated that they would want to leave. That's the same percentage of Americans who would want to leave the US permanently because that's a global survey that Gallup does. Not that long ago, the percentage is saying they wanted to leave Mexico was 25, 30%. So there is sort of a brightening of prospects in Mexico that is, we have to take into account. Whatever those numbers are though, I would like to say that the influence of Spanish-language media was likely to decline from now on. The influence of official Mexico and the lives of Latinos is likely to decline. And this is becoming more of a native-born ethnic rather than immigrant population. I disagree with that, but let's take another break. We'll forever fight because he's Mexican-born on US-born, so, you know. He's not a real Mexican. He wants California back. He wants California back. I think as the border comes down and there's more back and forth, Mexico will become a bigger presence here through that community. But Mexico has never done a good job of keeping the loyalty of its latter generation. Yeah, but it's not a government issue now. It's gonna be a community thing. Constantine, help us. Save us. Separate us. Hi. I think this needs to be... Over here? Oh. Okay. No? One question here and then Constantine will get the last. Okay. I'll save you at the end. I hate to reroute the conversation. I'm from Silicon Valley and I think that we're getting cocky about our ability to retweet to each other about immigration reform and a lot of my friends have kind of donated to this forward.us and that seemed to be missing from the conversation here. Are we like, what's the reaction here in Washington to, you know, newly minted tech entrepreneurs trying to... Yeah, yeah, I think that the tech people have always been regarded as, you know, they're gonna come out pretty well in the bill no matter what happens. The public, much more than they think we need, you know, legalizing is obviously problematic for a lot of people in America. Bringing in, you know, more poor Mexican workers is problematic to a lot of people in America. There's some debate about whether we need more PhD scientists, but not as much.  They're making it harder to use the H-1B visa, but pretty much the tech community is gonna come out, you know, like bandits on this bill and the tech industry support is important and, you know, gonna be a big thing in getting it done. Constantine, final question. So yeah, I thought the fellow from Silicon Valley might steal my question, but he didn't. So, and it's more of a sort of broad question that you can both, all three, take in the direction that you will. Just to the extent that the conversations today tend to be siloed, that, you know, we talked about technology in the morning and then war and now immigration and the question of technology, and Gregory, your comments on sort of social cohesion and thinking about online education and how education serves as a cohesive force and perhaps less so if we're watching it on our computers. And I wanted to get your sort of reflections on if we're thinking about how immigration will affect this country on a 20 to 30 year time scale, the technologies that we have at our disposal both in this country and in the world will change during those decades. And I was wondering if you could sort of, just sort of give me your thoughts on how you think, you know, everything from, you know, how manufacturing gets done, you know, in terms of where the demand for labor is, in terms of what possibilities exist for border security. That, I mean, it seems to me that the border has been fundamentally porous because we've had a certain set of technologies for dealing with it and I'm not an advocate for militarizing the border. But it's a lot less porous than it used to be. Exactly and sort of, so I'll stop rambling on but sort of get your reflection on how changing technology affects this debate. How does technology and immigration interact? Well, that's like a really interesting, we could have a whole, not just a shelf of books, like a bookcase of books. I don't even know where to start. I mean, obviously, you know, immigrants have been key in driving sort of the innovation in the US, right? And this does go back to the Silicon Valley guy's question. I mean, I think it was a third of the scientists and a quarter of the entrepreneurs in Silicon Valley in the boom were foreign born.  Now they compete to get the smart people and a lot, you know, innovation is what drives economic progress now and no country produces enough PhD scientists. Half of the PhD scientists in America are foreign born. And so, I mean, just, you know, our whole, the technology ultra progress we make wouldn't be possible without immigration. And part of the idea of the bill is to keep that going. You know, Ken, to move to sort of the other party question, can technology help in implementation? You know, sure. On the border, but even more important, one of the biggest change in this bill we haven't even talked about is every employer in America, when this bill passes, is gonna have to run new hires through an electronic online system and see if they're verified or not.  So, it's necessary, that is the place to control unauthorized immigration is in the workplace.  It's a fundamentally new form of social food. Yeah. How the economy works.  The social control already exists. When you, when you get hired somewhere, you have to, you have to provide a social security number or some documentation that shows that you're, you're legally here. This is a new way of verifying that. So in a sense, it's, Well, I mean, it's an incremental. Yeah. Gregory, final thought? Otherwise, we'll fight later, no worries. All right. Thank you everybody and thanks to you guys. This was terrific. Thank you.


What's up everybody Jason for Jasper's case breaks calm We're giving away 15 Donner's team all spots away with this 2020 certified team all basketball one box break round teams number one The way this works guys as far as we do the break randomized customer names and teams should be the hits up Then at the end of the break we'll take all 30 customer names randomize them and Customer name at number one through 15 half of you guys will get a spot in the break itself So appreciate it guys and good luck guys. So let's do the break first Like I said, we'll randomize the customer names teams and distribute the hits out first of this box Two or two four times one two three and four Mike down to dawn four times One two three four Lando magic down to the Toronto Raptors. All right, so there you go guys stick to what you got This is a quick little box break, but actually my first time seeing the certified team all addition though So dawn does have like I think two-thirds of the teams And everybody else should be in there as well But team all addition I think gives you look for exclusive Asia parallels six NBA trading cards look for freshman family signature parallels So it should be fun. Let's see how this goes Give you like 30 seconds to view your teams really quick got the bulls nice All right guys, so like I said no trades just stick what you got Quickly run this break now And here you go age addition All right, so RJ Hampton Kauai Leonard we have John Morant I Don't know if this is numbered though No, it's not really go bear the Montess a bonus and Nicola Joker, so it kind of has like these like little What should what should I how should I say it uh? Like the scopes I know it's kind of hard to see it, but it does have like scopes all around the car So I think that's kind of like the Asia edition but it looks like There aren't any guarantees that just look for the exclusive Asia parallel So I'm assuming that the the reds are the exclusive Asia parallel Like I said, it kind of gives a little scopes. I don't know it's kind of hard for you guys to see it But in person you can you can notice it right away But no autographs are guaranteed so of course you can get one though We did get another John Morant though Maybe they get one rookie All right guys, so there you go now let's switch teams and Give away the 15 spots so half of your customers are gonna get in So again, here's a dice for those of customer names Top 15 get in after four and a two six times. Good luck one two three four five and Six then final time four and a two six Don Don Mike squeezed in Eric squeezed in Jose squeezed in and then it was dawn all the way Don had 20 out of the 30 spots So there you go top 15 get in Congratulations guys coming up the next is the break itself another team audition


What's up everybody Jason here from jazby's case breaks calm 2020 tops five-star baseball picker team number 15 cells Oh with this random number block here that includes some big teams guys high-end teams White socks Yankees angels mariners cubs orils brewers and Indians So again, everybody gets a piece of this for a piece of these teams for a fraction of the price And again, you guys know how traditionally random number blocks work same thing here with these teams only You got a random number ones out there nine and just remember just know there are cars that are gonna be unnumbered guys In this set including autographs relics base cards, etc All the unnumbered cards in this block of teams will be randomized to one person in one lot at the end of the break So if there is a lot of unnumbered cards for these teams, there could be potentially a good little Good little R&B randomizer for unnumbered cards and you guys know the way it works Of course zero number on the left side of the dash So good luck everybody Let's roll the dice and we've got ourselves a four and two six times. You're the customer names six times one two three four five six There you go DJ down a jack boom six times here now one two three four five Three down to six DJ with three Richard with four Donnie with eight Matt with five Matt with one any one of ones will be yours Kang with seven Patrick RC with nine Kang with two Anthony with any redemptions for these teams will be yours and Jack with six So they guys coming up next in a separate video is the break itself


What's up everybody, Jason here for Jazky's casebricks.com 18 giveaway for Chronicles Pikachu number six in this one Pacsello prism 17 18 number 146 random teams So again, not only do you get a chance to get a team in the break itself the last four boxes of the case You also have a chance when you do win a team to win the pelicans So that gives you the opportunity right there So 39 dollars gives you an opportunity to win the bulls which I believe were 250 plus all the way down to the wizards We're a little closer to a hundred of not over a hundred so pretty good value guys No matter what and almost pretty much one-third chance to get it here I know earlier hacks said nine teams but in the item description They only showed the eight just a typo we had put nine there. So again still eight teams So what it works is guys is first we'll do the randomizer for the teams and names Open up the sell a pack distribute the hits and then the separate dice for the randomizer Randomize the customer names customers in a top eight Will win teams from the bulls down to the wizards So let's do the break first guys. Let's roll it and we got ourselves a six and a three for nine times one two three four five six seven eight and nine Scott down to Anthony one two three four five six seven eight lasers Houston Rockets Scott with the lasers Charles of the Nets Thunder Derek with the pistons Joel with the 76ers Oliver the Knicks ace of the Celtics John with the Hornets pelicans Joel with the Spurs ties with the Raptors Chris of the heat Ryan Harold you have the Warriors Chris of the Pacers Sean you have the wizards John with the Grizzlies Joe with the sons Ryan with the bucks John with the Lakers Oliver the T-Wills John with the Kings Michael the Nuggets John with the Clippers Michael the Jazz Ryan Harold with the magic ties with the Bulls Chris of the Mavericks Anthony with the Hawks Mike with the cows and Anthony with the Houston Rockets All right quick trade window guys. No one's gonna trade in this. So Let's close it Rip open the pack and then we'll see who win spots in the break itself at the end Harrison Barnes Solomon Hill Damien Dotson Malik Mon Monroe JJ Borreia Zach Collins Brad Stevens Monroe Hernam Gomez now, let's see who's gonna win spots in the break itself remember top gate get in Team winners there you go Customer list of customer names again. Good luck. Let's roll the dice and it is a six and a four this time So ten times. Good luck one two three four five six seven eight nine 10 ten times So John D or sorry starts with Joel at number eight John D at seven Mike with six ties with five Mike G with four John with three Ace it with two and Anthony with one Boom ten times top eight get in So Anthony you just won the bulls Asa you got the Knicks John with the T wolves Mike with the wars ties with the bucks Mike with the pistons John with the spurs and Joe with the Washington Wizards. So there you go guys Remember one more filler. We need to do here on the website It is for the Memphis Grizzlies and it is down to 24 and that I'll unlock the break guys appreciate it Jasper's case breaks


Hello every traders good afternoon. Let me get a little chat back if you could hear me loud and clear Just want to do a quick audio check Loud and clear. All right. Good. Good. Give me a second here. Let me share my screen All right. Good. Good. Hope everybody can see everything. Okay, perfect All right traders. So basically welcome everybody. Um, hopefully everybody's having an exciting afternoon Let me tell you it's been a really really fun fun week so far. Just share my screen. There we go All right, and what we're going to talk about we're not going to take too much time We're going to get into the fun of trading see what's moving in the market Why things move and everything else that while we're trading and I want to do something a little different today and Basically, um, have any of you anyone here? I see mark adam laurence Have any of you been here before or watch me do a professional done a trading before? Just give me a yes or no It's your first time Last time, you know second fifth adami never done it. Okay, anyone else? Mark, what about you? Just want to double check All right. So so what we're going to do is I want to go into what we teach here more on level four trading and where level four trading comes in is um, you know before, you know is we're going to talk about Why I trade the way I've done why I've competed against some of the biggest traders in the industry What they do different that you're going to learn different here and you know, basically, you know What made cyber trading be doing this for 30 years and being very well known around the world As one of the leading educational schools in the industry Now what I'm going to do is I want to invite all of you guys to come into my trading room at the end of this presentation We'll only have to talk about 15 minutes. I gotta take that home I just want to get right into it and show you exactly Who we traded how we trade it and what moves in the market now I don't know if anyone here has ever used level three level four But we're going to go out there and we're going to see what it's like now Remember a lot of you go out there and trade and use indicators and bold your bands and MACDs and swing trading and options But you have to understand what makes stocks move It's the movement of buyers and sellers when you have stock like f M y go from a dollar eighty to three forty You know in the first half of the day or bnox in pre mark goes from two dollars to seven dollars or even MLGL Goes from like five to ten and wonder why all the sudden the stock takes off in the last you know hour It's all about following money That's basically what it is. Um, I have no picture only sound. Can you help me, please? Uh, yeah, just refresh your screen, uh Lauren if you can do that now What we're going to do is I'm going to show you why a lot of people fail in trading and the reason why a lot of people fail is because who trained you And even if you did get trained by someone was he a market maker was he endorsed by a brokerage firm? These are things that you got to look at when it comes into trading when you go into the market Because that's why a lot of people get themselves in trouble They just basically they try it on their own.   Why not they're not being uh doing speakings for trade station all these big brokerage firms? Trust me ladies and gentlemen These brokerage firms do their due diligence. Okay This is why we got a high rating on google. Let's five star rating on google But it's not about teaching about the winnings. It's a teach you about how to stop losing And that's what it's all about So Just to get a better understanding You know, I always like to get to know a little bit about everyone else. Could you tell me what kind of trader are you? Are you a swing trader? Are you an options trader? Are you a fork trader? Just so I know a little bit about you Just let me know it's always nice to know And By knowing that Just to let you know I'm an actual day trader Swing options and day trading futures a little day trading lauren. Okay. Good. Well, listen If you want to be a good options trader, you got to learn how to trade the stock It's the movement of the stock that makes an option move. So if you keep worrying about You're trading because of leverage.  You know, it's you know, what's you know What's simple is um hitting the button buying and selling what the hard part is taking a lot Okay, but don't get don't get over don't get fooled by thinking like oh, it's all about leverage. No That comes after I always tell everyone who's more wealthier person owns the house or the person that rents the house So that's what basically comes down to is supplying demand So what we're going to focus on is on big orders. That's we're going to focus on where are the big orders Let's stop focusing on the past. Let's focus on the future. So what I want to talk about is level three and level four and where there's level three, um, I actually going to be live next week on naztac and naztac Actually hires me, you know to do speaking to educate there even their old clients The reason why is the exchanges want you to know how to trade the market If you knew how to trade the market, you'll make better and smarter trading decisions and the reason why They want you to learn is back in the when I started you had to be licensed You don't have to be licensed anymore But everybody wants to learn from the people and always want to do that tour in the new york stock exchange Or maybe even have a seat down there And you couldn't back in the past because of course millions of dollars now It's 15 bucks Why would you not want to go out there and spend $15? Because when you see a stock like pl tr and you see a stock go from 16 to 15 65 And wondering why ain't going any lower? It's not because of mr. Bolger band said so It's not because of kramer said so it's because there was a buyer of 84 000 shares that said so And that's support levels And the same thing goes for resistance levels when you have a stock that goes from Starts off here at whatever prices is Um I don't know 10 50 or something like that 10 20 and it goes up and hits a resistance of 10 65 And wondering why you tank it went below 10 Well, did you know there was a 92 000 share seller out there? Because that's what it's all about It's about the sellers That's what drove the stock down So Let's go over a couple of few trades that happened this week Tesla for example, this is the etf of tesla This stock is going down right now. You're probably thinking about you ever want a stock and stocks going down? What's the first form of action? Not sell but where's going to hit the next support level So as much as you need to you might you hey, you might be a good deal to sell now you might Maybe want to wait because you're at support The only way you're going to know that is to see who's out there And one thing you'll notice that there was a big buyer out here for 145 000 shares at $17 Now there are buyers at all different price levels, but when you're talking about something that is 10 to 20 times Bigger than any price level That would explain explain why the stock goes up Once again, this is all about the future And you could do this towards swing trading you could do this towards options trading But I just prefer to do day trading because I like to just sit in cash at the end of the day Let's go check out a stock cold path Here's a stock that went up Took a took a nice little run from 1580 up to 1680. What's the first form of action? Where am I going to sell? Where is the resistance levels?   You gotta you gotta deal with 67 000 shares seller at 17. So you could forget everything you were looking at Because look what ended up happening. I went all the way to 17 and came right back down That's why you need to know who's buying it and who's selling it Now can I get nasdaq book viewer? Yes, you can all you need to do Is send me an email I'll be happy to tell you where to get it I'm not going to give you the link because I don't want you to go out there and buy it Without me giving you because I want to give you guys a video how to set it up Because you'll be very overwhelmed. Remember the peep the one who educates wins Okay You wouldn't want anyone to trade your money that never learned finance. So you know what? Here's your here's your chance to do that So let me just put my email out there. So if no one has it i'll still be There you go. All right good so Let's go check out level four Now level three looks pretty cool. But what is level four? That sounds like something higher. It is and it's better Now what this does is puts it on a heat map Where on the right you'll have your orders You know, so you have to look at all the numbers, but on the left you get to see the colors So for example, let's look at some stocks that bounce all of support So this stock right here is going down and you got these orders right here and the guy canceled And you got this really big one down here at 20. He's been out there this whole time for 39 000 shares Okay, what ends up happening? You know, you could see the numbers here But that really the biggest buyer is at that 20 When it hit that 20, it rocketed up to 20 70 in a matter of I don't know was that 10 minutes less than 10 minutes All because of that big buyer went out there. But guess what? It wasn't 19 000. It was 192 000 If you knew there was 192 000 share buyer at 20 dollars. Do you want to go short? Do you want to sell? When everyone else is showing 6 000 5 000, how many shares are you trading?  Let's go look at some stocks that reversed Here you have a stock that's going up And you're coming up to a 630 000 share seller at 20 bucks Look at that number 630 000. This is a real number. This is the actual data from the exchange.  And every newsletter you subscribe to everyone says oh the stock's going to 25. It's going to 30 Yeah, great You get through that 630 000 share seller Because guess what not only turn to 600 now turn to almost 900 And here you have it.  Let's use simple math it ran up a dollar Okay, and once it ran up a dollar boom You know in a matter of and you could have made that in a pretty I don't know 30 minutes And then you could lose it all because you didn't have that game plan That's what trading is all about But if you implemented some indicator or just looking at the chart, you can't see that You wouldn't have seen that order out there for eight for almost 900 000 shares Let's go check now. Let's go check out the live markets. All right. Um, I did something pretty cool today And I'm going to ask everyone here Give me a brand name stock that you might consider a brand name stock That because I'm going to show you in the live markets Tesla lauren, okay anyone else adam, what do you think? Steve Fay marco. Give me a stock.  Let me tell you this because um, tesla is actually the most Searched stock to day trade. Okay, so let me bring up Oh, here's the stock that we're day trading right now. Did you guys see this stock today? acp It just started went from look what it did this morning It went from four dollars to five dollars It's almost at nine dollars. It's up 130 percent Just the other day. It was at a dollar you want to know why it was going up. We're gonna get there. Okay, but Uh, hold on.  Where was support and where was resistance? I'll make it a little bit easier for you You could see that it hit resistance right around here at 165 You have support levels here 161 Anybody want to argue with that? Now why did it go from 161 Stop that 165 Went back down to 261 hit 265 and came back down Anybody have an answer? I'll give you the answer must have been a lot of sellers and a lot of buyers Let's go hop on over here and go check it out 9 30 this morning Look at the sellers out here.  There's 112,000 share seller out there at once at 265 There was a buyer down here not a lot for only 47 he did add to it But you could see here that even when you got around 10 o'clock look at the sellers out there So if you just traded that stock and knew those orders are out there Let me tell you right now If I had the stock at 164 20 right now 130. I'm sure not looking at think it's going to go to 160 266 Because I got to deal with uh, I don't know $26 million worth of shares looking to be sold You think I want to deal with that guy because it didn't work too well early this morning Okay, now If you want to do some swing trading no problem, let me move this out of the way. How about this? Let's zoom in over here and let's look on a swing trade. So here is 165 right and um, what else do we have we got some resistance levels Let's put some new lines here right around here. I think once right there is pretty resistance. Would you say agree? 276 And let's do another one. It was like maybe here somewhere around 300 Okay So let's go check this out Want to do on a swing trade You got a seller here 270 275 for 198 thousand and a 280 at 252 And you got a 400 000 shares seller at 300 Really? What do you know? No wonder why Do you see that ladies and gentlemen? You want to know why that stock has resistance levels there? Because that's called program trading. That's what you call resistance levels So Who here wants to learn how to trade this? who here wants to learn and See this live in the market. Well, this is what I'm going to do I wouldn't invite all of you guys to come into my trading room, which is right here And you can see right here. They're already trading that stock MSOS And I want you to meet all the hundreds of traders in here people like you That are all out there trading and I want you to meet the staff of ctu alex john rich You know greg all these all our instructors here I want to invite you and you'll see why We've been endorsed by more brokerage firms and exchanges in any school in the industry and also Why we have a five-star rating on google Okay, which you is unheard of and i'm in the industry So to get involved in my cybergroup room and to see how to trade these markets live is all i'm asking for nine dollars I don't need your nine dollars, but the nine dollars tells me if you're a real person or not So all i'm asking for is take your phone Turn on the camera Okay, scan that qr code Or Copy that link right here in the bottom And we'll post it up there for you So we can get that link And adam you already signed up all right good So You're going to get all this information. We're going to give you workshops. We're going to give you the trading room and not only that But we're going to have live commentary from nine in the morning to four o'clock We're also going to do q and a's We're also going to do all this stuff and i'm going to give you my book And i'll even allow you to talk to me on the phone if i see you in the trading room i'm going to have my instructors make sure they make an appointment with you if you and i to talk because If i'm going to make the effort to teach you i want to make sure you qualify for the job Okay, because trading is a job So all i'm asking for is nine dollars That's the address.  That's all it costs And i'll show you everything that we're doing in in the ctu room and you could start today You could start next week But lock it in personally. I would start immediately You know, but if you like going on vacation or whatever it is, that's fine But if I could show you how to find these 400 000 share sellers this 800 000 share buyers Think how much smarter and better trading decisions you would make so There it is fellow traders Make that effort make that investment make that opportunity to talk to me on the phone And hopefully you can make you a trader, you know a profitable trader moving forward Because it's time to stop pretending to be one and it's starting to act to be responsible and trained to be one Because you have to learn before you could earn So with that said fellow traders, thank you so much for coming Make that small little endorsement there an investment of nine dollars in yourself And let me show you how to actually professionally trade in today's markets and see why cyber trade university Is, you know ranked, you know and the most popular education school in the industry. All right Thank you very much for listening. Hopefully you enjoyed it and I look forward to seeing you all in the trading room


Hey guys, welcome back to my channel or welcome if you're new There's hair in my lip gloss. I recently moved from Northeast, Pennsylvania to Wilmington, North Carolina And I've been sharing that entire process if you're interested in any of that kind of stuff then make sure to subscribe Oh, no We're starting with that. So today I thought let me just sit down and do okay Squeaky toys have to go in the bedroom.  I just did it anyway today I thought I would sit down and just do a super casual video on The floor. I don't have a couch yet in my living room. So I asked you guys on instagram if you have any questions for me So i'm gonna be answering those but before I jump into the questions I do have to give a shout out to the sponsor of today's video dossier You guys know that I only work with brands that I actually genuinely love and use And I've talked about dossier and shown them in plenty of vlogs that weren't sponsored. 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I got a few questions that were just very simple and to the point How's your mental health? How have you been adjusting? Are you doing okay? And I really appreciate that um, yeah, I'm doing really well actually I Fully expected to just feel like lonely and kind of sad or homesick and I haven't Surprisingly that's not to say that it's not going to kick in at some point. I'm sure it will but so far I'm actually Feeling really good about the move and I love being here a few people also were asking How do I plan on looking for and making new friends? I honestly haven't made that A big priority just yet. I'm still just focused on like getting settled in and kind of learning my way around town and all of that But honestly having a dog helps a lot. I live in an apartment complex, which that's another thing Ideally I would have liked to just be in my own house and have a yard and all that But I decided to go the apartment Route because I knew that being in a complex around other people would increase my chances of meeting people But yeah, having a dog definitely helps because taking them out for walks I'm constantly encountering other people that also have dogs And you know when your dogs want to go and play with each other Then it kind of forces you to have a conversation with the other dog's owner And I know once I get back to doing hair I'm gonna Meet people very easily that way too. A few people are asking What made me want to move and why North Carolina and Wilmington specifically I pretty much always knew that I wanted to move Somewhere warm because I've always hated cold weather and winter But there were a lot of things that kind of held me back from it You know, I ended up making a career change and going back to school And it took me a while to like really get established and get to a point where I was like financially stable enough To move and to afford To be on my own and then I don't know I turned 29 earlier this year and it just kind of hit me like Holy shit. My 20s are almost over And I'm still here in my small town And it feels silly to still be living somewhere where I'm miserable for half of the year And then things just weren't really working out in my relationship. So I was like, you know what? I think this is just the perfect time to finally take the plunge and do it And I knew that I wanted to still be on the east coast because I still wanted to be somewhat close to my family And the south is just so much more affordable living expense wise and north carolina was just kind of perfect Because it was still south enough that it was going to be warm, but it wasn't too south So I would still get a change in seasons Because I don't want to be somewhere where it's just hot all the time And it's still close enough that I could drive home in a few hours if I wanted to go see my family It's about a 10 hour drive to where my parents live. So it just kind of felt like the perfect location I had been to north carolina multiple times on vacation, but I had never been to wilmington specifically But I just did a lot of research online and it just kind of felt like the right place It had everything I was looking for as far as like being by the beach Having a lot to do and having a pretty big population of people But still having like a small town feel. So yeah, one day I just drove down here with my mom Explored the area a little bit felt it out looked at some apartments fell in love signed my lease And that was that what's your favorite thing about your new town besides the weather? So kind of like what I just said how there's a lot of people here. There's a lot to do There's a lot of stores It very much feels like a city in some ways, but then it still has that small town feel.  You kind of get the best of both worlds And I also just like how nice everybody is and it's also very diverse like everyone that I've met is from all over I met somebody that is from New Hampshire. I met people from West Virginia. Someone from Louisiana, Mississippi I'm moving from Florida to Tennessee next year. I'm nervous of leaving family. I need tits Just FaceTime this year is actually going to be my first Christmas by myself not spending it with my family and It's going to be weird But we're going to FaceTime and open gifts together and try to just make it feel like a normal Christmas Were you nervous to live alone again after living with your boyfriend? Any tips if you weren't? I wasn't nervous Honestly living by myself It's been great. I just posted a vlog where I talked a little bit more about that There's definitely been times where I missed the comfort of having somebody else there And just having somebody that can help me with simple things like bringing the groceries in Taking Bernie out, but I would say just look at all of the positives, you know, think about the fact that You can decorate however you want.  Did you bring your cats with you? No, I did not because the drive down here is so long I just didn't think that they would handle that very well and I figured to Anytime I go back up to visit my family, you know, what am I gonna do With them I would either have to board them or they would have to do that long drive with me again And I just felt bad putting them through all of that. So I just left them with my family They're comfortable there. They're fine. They probably don't even realize I'm gone Then I also got a lot of questions asking me about work. Am I going to be taking hair clients? Am I going to do a salon suite? How was the process of transferring my cosmetology license? All of that kind of stuff So I knew before moving down here that I wanted to take a little bit of a break from doing hair Nothing crazy just like, you know, maybe two or three months just to give myself some time to settle in Get to learn the area a little bit before rushing back to going to work and luckily YouTube is part of my career as well So I'm able to do this in the meantime, which I'm so appreciative of which by the way Thank you guys so much It's because of you the fact that you enjoy my content and that you watch that I am able to do this And not a day goes by that I take that for granted. So for now, I am just doing youtube full time I am not taking hair clients right now But I will be I'm hoping come like april maybe I will start to but I don't know any details for sure yet Make sure that you're following me on instagram on my hair page Styled by sam vei because once I know more I will be announcing it on there So if you do live anywhere in this area and you'd like to get your hair done I would love that And I will keep you posted But I haven't transferred my license yet over. I'm in the process I have to get in contact with the pennsylvania board of cosmetology Have them send my information over to north carolina So that I can get my north carolina license, etc Luckily pennsylvania and north carolina have reciprocity Meaning I don't have to retest or take any more like hours at school or anything I just pay like a little fee and it transfers over I don't know how long that process is going to take Some people have told me that it can take a couple of months But I will fill you in and I'll share the whole process of transferring my license over and building a clientele, etc Do you plan on living where you're currently at permanently? Do you think you'll move back? I don't know And I'm not even going to try to pretend like I know for sure All I know is that I wanted to move here. I wanted to try out something different so far I really like it, but I've only been here for Not even two full weeks yet. So it's a little too soon to say when I move back to my hometown Probably not. I maybe would move back up north at some point in the future I don't know to be determined. I guess but as of right now, I really like it here a lot How'd you get over the fear of letting go even when you knew it wasn't right anymore? And then I also just got a few questions asking like how have I been post break up one thing that I always say to myself And I always say this to my friends whenever they're questioning their relationships It's like what are you benefiting from this relationship? What does this relationship have to offer you and what is it that you are looking for? I mean a relationship should be benefiting your life It should be making things happier and just good for you, right? If you feel like it's bringing more negativity than positivity and if you could be doing even better just being on your own Then what's the point and what's also been really helpful is writing down all of the reasons why you know It isn't right So that way whenever you're having like a time where you're just feeling kind of emotional or sentimental you're questioning your decision Look back at that list and remind yourself why you're making this decision And also make a list of things that you want like qualities that you want in an ideal partner That you feel are lacking in your current situation What was that moment when you finally decided to move what cemented it for you? And then similarly was it hard for you to tell your parents that you were moving So actually what really like solidified it for me was anytime I told someone That I had this idea of moving Because it wasn't even for sure just yet. I just kind of was like toying with the idea of it in the beginning Everyone was so supportive My family my boss my therapist All of my friends not a single person was like, oh, are you sure that's a good idea? Like immediately everyone was like, yes do it. This is going to be so good for you But telling my parents was super easy because they've always known that I didn't want to just stay in that town and they didn't want that for me Anyway, like they want me to go out and Live life funny enough the hardest person To tell was my boss I was the saddest about leaving my salon And leaving her are you excited to start dating again with a fresh slate new place new state new boys? I don't know. It's like when I think about dating. It's like on one hand. It is very exciting Getting to meet new people and especially being somewhere like I said earlier There's so much diversity and people are kind of from all over It's exciting to get to meet people in general that are just from somewhere different But on the other hand, it's kind of nerve-wracking because I don't know dating can be kind of scary But I feel like now I'm at a point where I'm more secure in who I am I know what I want. I know what I deserve That makes me feel a little bit more optimistic about it. And then I'm like, oh, should I actually go on a dating app Or should I just be patient and hope that I maybe meet someone in person just as I'm out and about Let me know comment down below. Should I get on a dating app? And if so, which one? How do you plan on rebuilding your clientele and are you nervous about building a new clientele while we are still in Covid I have two videos actually where I shared how I grew my clientele in the first place through social media So I just plan on using the same tips that I share in those videos I'll link them down below and I've kind of been in the process of doing that Even before I got down here. I started using local hashtags tagging my location stuff like that I know I'm not nervous about building a new clientele because even when I was still in Pennsylvania I was getting new clients all the time. I think that was most of the questions again Thank you guys so much for sending in your questions and for following along on this whole journey Thank you again to dossier for sponsoring this video. Don't forget again to check the description for a link and discount code Thanks for watching and I'll see you in my next video. Bye


Good morning, everyone. Welcome back to theCUBE's live coverage of CrowdStrike Falcon 23 Live from Caesars Palace in Las Vegas. Day two of our two-day coverage, Lisa Martin with Dave Vellante. We just came from the keynote day. It was demo day. Demo day, yeah, Mike Santonis was going deeper in the demos. I thought it was good. I mean, I really liked how he sort of double clicked on the whole notion of breakout time. Yes. He gave some new information there, just to share for the audience. I think it was last year they said the average breakout time was an hour and 58 minutes. Right. And then the last one, the last snapshot they took was 79 minutes. So dramatic compression and breakout. Breakout time is the time it takes the adversaries to get in and get out. Yes. Okay, so, I mean, hour and 58 minutes. I mean, when you think about that and you think about, you know, the member of the dwell time stats and we were talking about Adam Myers, I said dwell time stats don't matter anymore. You can compress it, but they're in and out. But you think about it, if the dwell time used to be like 365 days before you realized anybody's even in there, even if that's like down to a couple days, if they're in and out in an hour and 58 minutes or 79 minutes, doesn't matter if you find them or not within 10 days and you take it down to five days because they're already taking everything that they want, exfiltrated, maybe encrypted. You even said the fastest breakout time that they've discovered was seven minutes. Seven minutes. Seven minutes. Yeah, so I think it was an example where AI is going to help the adversaries in the near term anyway, probably more than it helps the defenders. So, you know, the whole marketing message of we stop breaches is very strong. Of course, you can't stop all breaches. That's kind of the problem. We've even talked about that. There's no software, there's no capabilities to detect every single vulnerability, but they will help organizations prioritize when he was talking about talking for IT and exposure management and that sort of stuff. And his demos were good. He talked about Raptor as the interface for AI. And then the whole notion that Charlotte's going to help you prioritize. It's not, I mean, it is a way in a magic bullet if it actually works as advertised because it can help you take all this complex information that's in logs and other incoming data and then narrow it down and prioritize. These are the high-profile, high-risk incidents or exposures. And so it was like Raptor, then sort of Charlotte AI, the whole exposure management thing that he talked about. And then Falcon IT, which I think is people going to get a lot of interest in that, like show me the laptops that have exposure. And then he talked about the Bionic acquisition, which is show me all the cloud configurations that have exposure. And then he also talked about, I thought this was interesting, he talked about doing distributed scans and being able to utilize their agent to have a wider observation space and eventually he said this is futures in just third-party data. So that's kind of cool. So again, it makes CrowdStrike the place you want to put all your data. It's all about the data, it always is. Cloud guys want your data, CrowdStrike wants your data, of course, because then they can do more with it, they can protect you, they can remediate, prioritize, and act. I thought it was good. I thought the demos were strong, he was very confident. I think he said this was his seventh year there. The crowd was pretty packed. It was bigger today than yesterday when I walked out and turned around. There were people sitting and standing. It's obviously more people came in today. I know the financial analysts came in last night. So they got the FA event, financial analyst event today at 11 o'clock. So that's going to be interesting. They're going to actually unveil the pricing. We talked about it last night in our insights segment, the pricing. And it's going to be interesting to see if they make that available for Falcon Complete. I think they will, but I'm not sure. Maybe they'll stage that out. But you remember, just to reiterate, we think that the Charlotte AI pricing is going to be, you're going to be priced by endpoint, a very low-cost entry point, and then you're going to be able to buy, let's call it bundles of query time. Kind of like t-shirt sizes, like snowflake prices, small, medium, large. So you'll commit to some number of use it or lose it queries, some capacity, and I'm sure you can scale up. Probably can't scale down.  But they also announced this flex pricing, Falcon Flex, where as you get everything and you pay for only what you use and you can swap modules in and out, now I'm sure you're going to have to commit to a one or a three year term and you're going to have to commit to some level of spend, I'm guessing. Maybe you don't have to, but you'll get a much better deal if you do. It's kind of like AWS on demand. If you just swipe your credit card, go to AWS and pay on-demand pricing, you're going to pay through the roof. But if you sign up for a bigger chunk with reserved instances or cost optimizations, let's say for a year or a longer term, you're going to get a better price per drink. And so I'm sure that kind of pricing is going to work. Whatever pricing they do, it's not going to be perfect. It's hard to serve all the all things to all people with pricing, but this Falcon Flex pricing is good. And CrowdStrike has an advantage because they have so many integrated modules. It's not like cul-de-sacs, where you got to rip one out and put a new one in. Or you have to have kind of a manager of managers and sort of this foe veneer interface over everything, but everything underneath is not integrated. At least that's the promise that they state that the architecture is truly integrated. And I believe it, they got good engineering here. And so that allows them to say, all right, turn this one off and turn that one on. Kind of AWS-like. And then we saw, at the end we saw the, they're still going on, but we saw the awards. The customer awards were Mattel and Target. Mattel, the guy from Mattel, the CISO from Mattel stood up yesterday and said, CrowdStrike basically paid for itself.  Exactly, you kind of saw that coming, right? Right. And then Target, and then the partner of the year they just announced, Daniel Bernard announced it was AWS. Which is interesting, I mean, makes sense. Basically they do a ton of business through AWS. It's their number one cloud partner by far. Microsoft's a big competitor. You know, they were depositioning Microsoft all day. Yeah. Well, there was a funny subtle dig at Microsoft when the logo just came across the screen as they were talking about complexities and vulnerabilities. Explain that to the audience. So let me look at my notes. He was talking about why security is so hard, complexity, cost, catastrophe, vulnerabilities, and then very slowly, and Mike said nothing, the Microsoft logo, the four colored boxes just comes across the screen. So the audience started cracking up. The audience cracks up, and then there were a couple of very intended digs at Microsoft from a patching perspective, but I thought that subtle one was great. Well, they're rapping, I mean, they got a good rap against Microsoft. It's good marketing. They basically would say, you know, Microsoft does patch Tuesday, and they used to say patch Tuesday means hack Wednesday. Now it's patch Tuesday because things are so much more compressed. Patch Tuesday means zero day Tuesday. So all the hackers, you know, can go right away. I would say this, and the other narrative that CrowdStrike uses, which again, I think is very effective, but it's, you know, it's marketing, is good enough, is not good enough in security. Right. Okay, that's again, really good marketing, plants the fud in there, but the reality is good enough is really alluring, especially for a lot of SMBs. Microsoft has a very large security business. It's easy to do business with Microsoft. They have Azure as the flywheel. You kind of add on to your existing collaborative tooling.  So it's like, yeah, okay, we'll take these tools as well. We talked yesterday that of the 420 or so accounts in the ETR database, there are about 75 to 80% actually are using Microsoft security tools. Now how effective those tools are, how active those tools are, whether or not shelf wear is not clear, but there's a huge overlap there. And my point is, for small and mid-sized businesses, especially, it's very alluring to work with Microsoft. It's very easy. And SMB is a challenging area for CrowdStrike a couple of quarters ago. We saw that they sort of had softness in SMB. We saw they had the partnership with PAX 8. We see they have a partnership with Dell, but these partnerships, they take time to bake. So that is the one area where, CrowdStrike's doing what they have to do to shore that up. But you got to have distribution channels. There's a lot of competition there. You got the MSSPs all participating there, but I like that PAX 8 relationship because that gives CrowdStrike a channel to SMBs through that PAX 8 marketplace. And so it's a big market. But nonetheless, Microsoft has a pain in the neck to companies like CrowdStrike, UiPath, same thing. We'll be there a couple of weeks. Recently, Zscaler and Okta as Microsoft gets into network security and identity. But they're competition because Okta and Zscaler are sponsors of the event. Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying Microsoft. So Microsoft competes with, very directly with CrowdStrike and Endpoint and has for years. And they have identity of course, but recently they announced a new thrust into network security which goes after Zscaler and identity which goes after Okta. So they're expanding their offerings. But it's like George Kurtz said, I don't know when it was. Maybe it was on the earnings call or one of these conferences or maybe it was here. Look, we wake up every day. That's all we do. We have our entire company, our entire R&D budget is aimed at solving security with Microsoft. It's kind of a rounding error in their business. But it's Microsoft. Microsoft is an awesome machine. You just can't ignore them. Well, you mentioned the ecosystem. And we talked yesterday about the ecosystem growing. We had PAX 8 on yesterday with Daniel Bernard. He's coming back on today. So we'll get to dig into the state of the CrowdStrike partner business. What's going on in SMB? What their opportunities are there? We also have Allie Mellon coming on. I know that you don't get to go to the financial analyst session because we're going to be here. But hopefully Allie will be able to come on and validate the crystal ball predictions that you made yesterday. Yeah, I wonder if she's going to go to that. Oh, I'm hoping so. And she got a shout out from Michael Santonis. As he said, Allie Mellon, and I just met her on the phone just to prepping for CrowdStrike Falcon, said she's one of the very few analysts that actually talks about the SecOps experience. And so we're going to talk about that with her. She's got some research on this topic. You know, the SOC analyst experience is something that Mike Santonis was saying needs to improve. We want to help. Allie's going to talk about SOC metrics. So that's going to be really interesting. Of course, we're going to talk about Gen AI. We have to with a forester analyst. Sounds like she's doing some good work in that area. I'm excited to meet her. I am too. We have a great lineup today. We're going to be talking with the ecosystem, with executives, we'll get the state of the business. We'll get really kind of an understanding of professional services. We've got Deloitte on. We've got Dell and Intel on. Going to be talking about some of the great new partnerships that they're doing there with hardware-assisted security. And it's going to be another great day. And I can't wait to see if your crystal ball was right. I know you, it probably was. Oh, I guarantee that's going to be close to what they do. I don't know if the, you know, the devil's in the details, but I mean, the basic concept of charging per endpoint, because that's how CrowdStrike charges. And then they've got to, they've got to price in, you know, they've got to charge for queries. They have to. And I doubt it's just going to be open-ended. There's no way customers are going to just accept open-ended. So they're going to have to give them some kind of small, medium and large way to experiment and get to learn the platform and then adjust. That's necessary. Yeah. What are you looking forward to most today? Say it again. What are you looking forward to most today from all the guests we have on? Let's see. Well, we talked about Ally Mellon. You know, I want to, Daniel Bernards is coming back and I want to ask him more about the go-to market. Because the one thing that I think I missed in my breaking analysis, you know, think about CrowdStrike, the architecture of the single agent, ingest once, use many. Their heritage and AI, we covered that. Their M&A prowess, we definitely covered that. When I put it out on LinkedIn, one of the comments that I got on LinkedIn is, Dave, you missed their other sort of secret weapon, which is their go-to market. And I said, okay, cool. I want to learn more about that. So that's kind of cool. Awesome. Who else we got coming on? We have... Tom Atheridge is coming on. We got Dell and Intel, like you talked about them. We've got a couple of partners. We got Dig Security coming on. CTO of CrowdStrike's coming on. That's going to be good. Yep. Sean Henry. We got Hubble. Hubble, yep. Oh, Elia. Yes. That's him. He's coming on. CTO, he's your CTO. He's going to do the Raptor overview. So that's going to be kind of good. And then Daniel Bernards is going to close it out. There's one other that I want. Oh, Sean Henry is coming on. Yes. Yep. And also the guys from Beyond Identity. My friend Kurt Johnson's coming on. So former IDC colleague. So I'm excited to see him. Excellent. And we're going to have another great day, Dave. I'm looking forward to covering day two, CrowdStrike.com with you. We're happy that you're here with us. We're going to be here all day. You can catch everything on theCube.net. If you missed anything from yesterday, go there. All of our editorial is on siliconangle.com. Stick around. Dave and I will be joined by our first guest who is Tom Atheridge in just a minute.