You're watching FJTN the federal judicial television network. That's just about covers your conditions. Mr. We just have a few special release conditions. You'll need to follow No access to a computer or a connected device except a landline telephone at any time No access to a modem and finally no access to the internet or BBS Okay, now that we've gone through your conditions mr. Herman. Do you have any questions? Well, just one when you say that I can't access a computer. What do you mean? Well, it means just what it says you may not access a computer. That's one of your special conditions Well, then what do you mean by? computer The condition says no access to a computer or a connected device except a landline telephone at any time Seems clear to me. You can't use a computer or a connected device Look, I don't mean to be a pain but but but everything has a computer in it nowadays I don't want to inadvertently Violate that's the word you used right to any any any conditions. I need to know what I can or cannot do I Mean what cars have had computers in them for years does that mean that I can't drive a car? And if I can't drive how do I get around? Mr. Herman we can certainly be reasonable You won't violate your conditions if you drive a car Besides it says or connected devices. Okay, then what about ATMs? What? ATMs those little boxes on the street corners with money in them. I know what an ATM is Mr. Yeah Well, they're all computers and connected devices Well, you think that ATM out in the middle of nowhere is just spitting out money because you were asked Of course not disconnected to a bank and that banks connected to another and so on what you don't believe me Look it up on the internet. I can't Mr. Herman Jeremy may I call you Jeremy? You know one of those conditions is I'm supposed to get a gig job, right? Right and How am I supposed to do that? When every single cash register is a computer There goes a job at 7-eleven not to mention a job at the mall Maybe I could get a job at a gas station Even gas pumps have computers in them with this condition. I couldn't even work at a gas station. Hmm. Whatever shall I do?   It's one step above a glass TTY as a minimally addressable cursor But no on-screen editing or other features normally supported by a smart once upon a time when Glass TTYs were common and addressable cursor was something special. What is now called? A smart terminal on the other hand has enough computing capability to render graphics or to offload some kind of front-end processing for the computer it's talking to.  Programs that are used to view the animal on a server store are usually made up of devices such as games. And welcome to our fourth edition of special needs offenders. I'm David Leathery with the Federal Digital Center. As you saw in our open our talking population today is the cyber criminal. The scene was humorous, but like all humor it does contain a grain of truth. A cyber criminal with all of his gadgets, gizmos and jargon can be intimidating. He can cause officers like the officer in our clip to think he's from another planet. Our purpose here today is to bring that cyber criminal back down to earth. By learning what to expect from a cyber criminal officers can devise plans to effectively manage and supervise this growing population. And believe it or not there are investigation tips and supervision techniques that don't require a degree in computer science. Today's broadcast is the second of a three-step process used to explore special needs offenders. The first step which you already should have read by now is to the desktop reference introducing cyber crime. The special needs offender bulletin. We wrap up our coverage of cyber criminals with an online conference. That's the final step to allow district to share even more information. Now this broadcast is for you. So ask questions and share your thoughts. All of today's discussion questions are contained in the broadcast participant guide. Which along with the bulletin provides you with all the information you need to participate. We'll start with the world of hackers and crackers. We'll learn who they are and what they do. Then we'll take a virtual tour of computer hardware. After the tour we'll take a short break and return for our second half. Which will analyze a case from pretrial services to supervised release. I'll be here throughout the program. But we have a lot to cover so let's begin and go to our moderator Mark Sherman. Thanks David and welcome. Our first topic is a popular one. Hackers and crackers. We have several experts here to discuss the issues with us. Joining me in the studio today is Lanny Neuvel, Senior Pretrial Services Officer from the Western District of Texas. Welcome Lanny. Thank you Mark. We also have two probation officers joining us by phone from the Central District of California. Mark Stein is the officer who supervised one of the first hackers in our system, Kevin Poulsen. And Larry Hawley is currently supervising super hacker Kevin Mitnick. Both Poulsen and Mitnick were featured in the special needs offenders bulletin. Welcome Larry and Mark. Thank you. Thank you. Before getting into our panel discussion let's first take a look at an interview we recently conducted with cyber crime expert and Orange County California probation officer Ed Harrison. Ed knows a little something about this topic and he graciously agreed to share his insights with us. Let's take a look. Traditionally a hacker has just simply been someone who is a computer code warrior, some programmer who sits there and punches in the commands that will eventually become the computer program. A hack is just simply taking advantage of a loophole in the system, taking advantage in some flaw in the way things work to their own advantage. If the original data remains there, they don't see it as a crime. Now there's a computer vandal element.  And that personality is more like a tagger. He wants to get a reputation, he wants to get it fast and it's a huge ego rush for him to see that his exploits made the national news. And the true hacker has tried to distance himself by starting to talk about, well, they're a cracker. However, just the proliferation of the term hacker by the media has almost eliminated the word cracker at all. Common usage has just made it that a hacker has become what a cracker was supposed to be and that is just a computer criminal. They spell freak P-H-R-E-A-K and its phone freak is someone who is just enchanted and entranced by the whole telecommunications system, not just what they can do with computer networking, but actually being able to manipulate the phone system, to be able to make phone calls for free, to be able to exploit others' voicemail for their own needs, to be able to make calls on other people's dimes. The freak tends to be much more social than a hacker. However, there's a lot of folks that will go to either side and play both sides of those crimes. The Kevin McNichol case was very interesting in that he certainly started out as a phone freak and many of his hacking exploits were to get information that perpetuated his activities as a phone freak. They have this need to publish the information and their feelings and what's going on and so they put these elaborate documents online and it's incredible when we interview these offenders it matches these manifestos. So we've got a tremendous amount of data that we're starting to compile now and showing that there's certain trends in these computer criminals. Certainly they all thrive on systems. They want to explore complex systems. It's a challenge to them. They get a rush by being able to demonstrate a competence in manipulating those systems. And for a lot of these folks, the criminal justice system is just another hack. They'll try to buddy up to you and that's part of their social engineering where they're manipulating you to learn as much as they can about the system. They tend to be compulsive plan enlist makers. It's very common to find at a computer evidence scene spiral notebooks with complex notes of their exploits where you can find specific entries in their own handwriting in these notebooks that correspond with crimes that you're investigating. So that's very common to find that. They have just fanatical need to organize their hard drives and these notebooks but yet their home life can be absolutely chaotic. It's not unusual to have to push the pizza boxes and empty soda cans out of the way to even get to the computer. Usually you'll see a lot of passive aggressive behavior, especially in a supervision model where you're supervising one of these folks. Yes, I understand, I have to do that. Yes, I understand this is the term of my probation and then they'll walk out of there and they'll say, son of a, and they'll go do whatever they want to do to torpedo your supervision. Be aware that they're going to set some traps. I would not be surprised at all to find that you were being tape recorded when you were interacting with this person. I would not be surprised at all to find a diary of your interactions with that offender. So I mean, these are things that you should certainly be aware of.  It's just, you've instantly jumped to the I'm not telling you anything mode as soon as you do that. I've found success in joking and kidding with them and I'll bring up anecdotally some of their past exploits and inquire, hey, what do you think about those guys who brought down eBay last week or what do you think about these guys who did this? How could they have done that better? And they turn into a teacher then and it really strokes their ego and they'll tell you, I've learned from hackers the recipes to make street drugs, I've learned from hackers the recipes to make bombs, I've learned all these different things just by simply allowing them to become a teacher. We don't need to understand how to ingest drugs in order to supervise a drug offender. We don't need to be able to operate a firearm to be able to supervise someone who's a weapons dealer but those are certainly traits that help but it's more about understanding the personality. We are behaviorists. I mean, we're really looking at how someone behaves. The computer is simply an instrument to the crime. Okay, Larry Hawley, let's start with you since not only are you supervising one of the most notorious hackers, Kevin Mitnick, we're going to take a look at the first set of discussion questions in the participant guide and in light of Ed Harrison's description that we've just heard on the hacker-cracker profile and the exploits of Kevin Mitnick. What characteristics should officers be aware of when investigating this and supervising this type of defendant or offender? Well, based upon my experience with Kevin Mitnick, Ed Harrison's description of hackers is very accurate. Kevin prides himself on his intelligence. He's not been a note-taker during our meetings although he has confirmed our conversations with follow-up correspondence for clarification almost in every case. Recently, that slowed down some. One thing to keep in mind that a hacker can be very social, I mean, Kevin Sportay was social engineering and he's very intelligent, persuasive and charming when he wants to be. Okay, thank you. Now, Mark, you've supervised Kevin Poulson who's been through the system. Tell us a little bit about the characteristics and whether you thought that Ed Harrison's description was accurate. I agree with Larry that Ed's description was accurate. Kevin Poulson, the hacker I supervised, brought a small pocket-sized notebook and pen to all of our office visits and kept detailed notes on our conversations and would follow up with letters to confirm and just to make sure that he knew what was going on and what the instructions were. He was a bit socially awkward and I think this demonstrates how hackers can run the gamut from being the more social person like Mitnick whose expertise was social engineering and then Kevin Poulson, while he was able to do those kind of things, his expertise was much more along the lines of the computer hacking in the phone system itself. Okay, I mean, you've hit on something that's really important for us to emphasize, I think, and that is even though we're trying to construct a profile here with you guys and with Ed, that there are differences within this population and you've just hit on that with the fact that Poulson was perhaps less socially oriented than somebody like Kevin Mitnick. Lanny, what are we learning from this end, particularly for the pretrial services perspective? Well, I guess we have to keep in mind that neither of these two guys ever made it out on bond. So we really, on the pretrial side, haven't had a lot of experience supervising. I do think that knowing, you know, getting heads up on these characteristics is going to be really helpful, not only when we do our investigations, but also when we, you know, get into the supervision with the defendants. Eventually this is going to happen, so you're going to need to be prepared. Okay, what we want to do now is throw it out to the field and go to our first field classroom. California Central Probation will start with you. Any reactions to either what's been said thus far or reactions to the discussion questions in the participant guide? Good morning, Mark. This is Chris Sutton from California Central and I have Ed Harrison here also. We concur with the information that's been put out in the bulletin and we'd like to take it a step further from our experience with these offenders out here. We find that they, we tend to classify them in three categories. Are they a pedophile? Are they a hacker? Are they an isolated professional person who's kind of a chat room groupie who's getting into this type of stuff because of financial pressure? We do find that they are a challenge to one's wits. You have to be very strategic when you're dealing with them and when you're making contact with them, you have to have your plan planned out and be ready to be confronted on the minutiae incidences because they do see black and white, they don't go the middle of the road. One of the things we do like to do is get in touch with the case managers in the institutions where they were to see about visitors and computer access there. We like to carry it over into having the case agent profile them and work in a collaborative effort with them. And we do like to throw out the question to them, kind of what they use. And I'd like to be a millionaire. Who would you use as your lifeline if you had a computer system question and you needed help? So hopefully that gets some questions generated. Okay. Reactions, Lanny? Not really. I kind of agree with what she said. These guys are going to be very difficult to deal with and we need to stay on top of the supervision with them and be prepared for... I want to refer to them as antics because that's kind of what they are. They're going to challenge us at every step. Okay. Larry? Larry Hawley? Any reactions to what your colleague Chris Sutton has said? Well, I think she's right. I think the thing is, in dealing with these guys, you have to keep things very direct and let them know what their bounds are and deal with them on a case-by-case situation.  I want to get back to this notion that Ed Harrison talked about in the interview about what we led up with in the opening video segment where a hacker can be intimidating, especially for someone who's less familiar with computers and I wonder what that was like for you and sort of how you've dealt with it and what your lifeline has been. Well, like I said in one instance, I'm not a computer... a knowledgeable computer user. I was intimidated initially and then what I drew upon my chief probation officer and my supervisor and they said, hey, you know, you've been doing this for a long time and if you just follow the conditions of supervision and use the standard techniques of supervision, you're going to be fine. And I think that was very encouraging and helped me a lot. Chris, does that respond to some of the points that you've made? Yes. We also like to ask these people are they an AM or a PM person because that's going to govern when we want to be out there making the home visits and making the home inspections. Good. Helpful. And I also want to make a note because you referred to it in the way that you categorize different offenders that in the second part of this broadcast we're going to be covering whether a computer or it starts out as a defendant who is at least accused of downloading child pornography using a computer. So we'll get to that for sure and I know that that's a concern of a lot of officers because that seems to be the predominant type of computer user in addition to fraudsters and he's one of those too on your caseloads. So we will definitely get to that. I want to move on now actually to Texas Western Probation and Pre-Trial Services and ask you whether you have any reactions said thus far or to the discussion questions. Texas Western, are you there? Hi, this is Mark Hewitt. San Antonio, do you hear me? Hi, Mark. Thanks for being with us. Go ahead. What's your question or your comment? We have a few comments and I appreciate talking to Larry earlier today. Okay. But just in terms of answering the question on the handout, the characteristics, a few things I chatted down was simply I would want to get a good idea of the hobbies and interests of the offender, what his past times are, get a good assessment of the knowledge of his knowledge of computers, his financial status and activity by thorough review of credit reports and telecommunication bills, get a good idea of associations he might belong to and his associates, his job, job requirements, travel needs and a good layout idea of what the layout of the residence is. I was also thinking about how many of the techniques we can use in supervising these offenders are very similar to my position as a senior officer in white-collar fraud, thoroughly reviewing financial documents, inspecting, relying a lot on law enforcement, collateral contacts. And something what Larry was saying earlier to me was that with Mr. Mitnick, that one big important thing to consider is don't allow the offender to get you as an officer to make snap decisions right on the spot in your office. They take a lot of notes. We can take a lot of notes, too. Hold on a second. Let me stop you there. That's about all those are some of the things I had jotted down. Great. I want to get some reactions very quickly from Lanny because your question or your comments raise several issues that provide an excellent segue to the next discussion question. So I want to move on, but first I want to get a quick reaction. I'm glad you touched base with Larry Hawley. I want to get a quick reaction from your colleague sitting here, Lanny Novel. I think Mark's right on target with that. I think the more information we can get about how they're living their life and their financial situation, the better off we're going to be as far as providing supervision and staying on top of whether or not they're in compliance with their conditions. Excellent. So a lot of the things that Mark was talking about rang true. Yes, yes. Okay, good. Larry and Mark, bear with us a second. We're going to move on to the next discussion question. And thank you very much, Texas-Western and California Central. Moving right along, based on these characteristics that we've been talking about thus far, what considerations might govern investigation and supervision of a hacker or cracker? And again, what conventional supervision techniques could an officer use? We've already talked about that a little bit, but Mark Stein, let's come back to you and get your input, particularly in terms of how it worked with your supervision of Kevin Polson. Mark, are you there? Yeah, how it worked with Kevin. He was very manipulative. He tried to manipulate both me and the system, and he looked at the rules of supervision and all of supervision as a whole as a game and something to try and beat or get around. What I did, my basic approach to supervision, I'm kind of a personable guy, and I humanized myself, and that kind of broke down the adversarial relationship. Although right about two or three months into supervision, he did take the matter back to court, saying that I was being way too restrictive on him, not allowing him to use a computer. Unfortunately, the judge backed us up on that. But once he started to see me as a person, it all kind of melted away. I think you just have to set clear supervision goals. And like Larry said earlier, don't make any snap decisions because they're going to write down everything you say and bring it back. So everything you say better be pretty good. In terms of supervision techniques, that's how I handled it. I found the flexibility that the court gave us in this particular case as far as his access to the computer, the internet or anything like that. It was all up to me. Now while Kevin did that, allowed Kevin to bring it up just about at every visit saying, hey, Mark, you can allow me to do this or you can allow me to do that. It was nice that it was in my lap. I liked having that because I knew the judge would back me up on my decisions. Okay. So you want to be prepared for manipulation. You need to be flexible. You need to rely on some of your most traditional supervision techniques that you've used in other contexts. And something that you mentioned yesterday when we were running through the rehearsal this thing, you don't want to try to match with them. No.  I mean, that's all they do. Kevin's whole life was about the computer and the phone system. Right. Anybody who spends that much time working on it like that, they're going to know more than you. And at the end of the day, you don't really have to be a computer expert to supervise these guys. They're just criminals who use a computer to do what they do. And so your good old-fashioned probation skills are going to come in very handy. Larry Hawley, makes sense to you? Makes tremendous sense. I think with Kevin Mednick, he did the same thing, but then I told him, I said, you know, we're not changing anything. We're going from the court order. And he said, well, you have the authority to change it. And I said, yeah, but it's increments. You know, it's not giant steps. And I think that's what... We built a sense of trust and mutual relationship on that. That he knew that I wasn't going to make drastic changes in the conditions of supervision, even though the court allowed us to make certain decisions. We weren't going to do it. We're going to have to... It was going to come with time. Excellent. Okay, Lanny, I want to come back to you. But before we do that, I want to throw it out to the field. And let's hear from Alabama Southern Probation. What's been your experience? And then we'll go to Oklahoma Western. Alabama Southern? Yes, sir. Mark, this is Gary, U.S. Probation and Mobile. Many of the points that Ed Harrison made, we find to be consistent with investigating and supervision of hackers and crackers. The author should determine the offenders' love of systems through the judicious use of games and challenges. Stroke his ego by encouraging him to teach the author about hacking and cracking, and understand the offenders' passive, aggressive nature and the futility of using traditional rewards. The conventional supervision techniques would include visual inspiration of the residents when you're making home inspirations or during the pre-science investigation stage. And at that point, you would make note of the evidence of excessive note-taking or use of electronic computing or communication devices. Record examination such as his page or telephone credit card billing information and similar records. And obtaining information from collateral contacts. Other family members? Okay, let me stop you there because you've just listed several things and a lot of the things that you've mentioned corroborate or validate several of the techniques that we've heard mentioned either by Larry, Mark, or from our folks at the other field classrooms. So that's extremely helpful. Sound accurate to you? Very much so, yes. Okay, you guys clearly have done your homework. Let's go quickly now to Oklahoma Western and get your input on this. This is Ben's Washington District of Oklahoma. The only thing we might add other than obvious employment restrictions would be developing good relationships with family members for informational purposes and also a system of give and take for reward versus compliance. Excellent point. Thanks. Again, you guys are doing your homework and making this a very, very interesting discussion. Before we come back to the panel here, I know that we have a fax, so let's go to David Leathery for that. Dave, we're not ready for it yet, so we're going to come back to the panel, and we'll get some reactions from Lanny first. Three things that came to mind during the discussion. Sure. The first one is that these guys display a lot of the same characteristics as somebody with an antisocial personality disorder, and all of us have been dealing with that throughout our careers. The second thing that I think is really important is getting the family involved or significant others or friends or whoever in the supervision, especially if they're living with somebody because they're going to be a really good source of information to us. The third thing is that we really need to not ignore the fact that these traditional supervision techniques are very important. The computer-related things that we may have to do with them to ensure compliance or try to ensure compliance are important, but the basics are really going to be what make things work for us. Interesting. Larry Hawley, I want to ask you about the employment situation of Kevin Mitnick, but before I do that, my understanding is that we are ready now to go to that fax. So, David Leathery? Okay, thank you, yes. We have a fax here from Northern Ohio, and the fax reads to the effect that we have a hacker convicted of a child porn offense. Would you comment on whether hackers are pure computer offenders or that they may commit other offenses like weapons, drugs, et cetera? Lanny? Good question. I think it's just like any other person who's involved in crime, if they get into something and get involved with it and get away with it, they may explore other options. Sure. And I think it's important to keep in mind that, and we'll see this in our later example when we cover the set of vignettes, that it's quite possible for somebody to commit several different types of offenses or at least be accused of committing several different types of offenses, and you've got to keep that in mind.  Good question. Thank you. I want to go now back to Larry Hawley because Larry, our folks in Oklahoma Western, mentioned the employment situation, and I know that Kevin Mitnick has some pretty severe employment restrictions, and I'm just wondering how you've handled that. Well, I think one of the things that courts let us be is a little creative in developing, you know, manners to supervise these individuals, and I think one of them is in employment. What I've done is that, and Kevin, every time he's offered a job or anything, I have him provide the prospective employer with a copy of his JNC, and then I also follow up with that employer about their understanding of what the restrictions and the requirements are as far as Kevin's probation supervision, and then they, in turn, will submit a letter to me acknowledging that they've received a copy of the JNC, they understand it, and that his employment will not violate those conditions. So I have them buy into it also so that it's kind of a mutual admiration society here with all three of us involved. And how about Kevin Mitnick? Has he bought into this? He bought into it wholeheartedly. He said, that's great. He said, that's fine. I agree with that. He's the one that faxes them, the JNC, and I make sure that, you know, that I get a copy of the letter and I speak personally to the employers themselves. So basically, I mean, we know that his restriction, his employment restrictions, or his restrictions on the use of computers and connected devices are pretty severe. Is he gainfully employed now? He's got to, in fact, he's speaking before a giga group. It's a corporate security, he's going to be the keynote speaker to this coming 27th of this month, and, you know, he's got another situation where he's working with Contentville and he's writing a monthly article. He's done one article so far and he provides us copies of what he's submitting and stuff like this so we can review it.  I mean, I have FBI agents, I have the POs from other districts. The world. The district and everybody letting me know. So, you know, I get a lot of feedback, even from the newspapers or reporters and TV reporters and stuff like this. So every time he does something because of his high profile, I get feedback and it helps. Excellent. And Ed Harrison has been extremely helpful. Thanks, Larry. This has been a fascinating discussion. We've covered quite a bit, but unfortunately we've run out of time. So thank you so much, Mark and Larry, for joining us over the phone. Thank you. And Lanny, thanks and stick around for the next panel. To reinforce what we've just discussed, we'll leave you now and at the end of each segment with some learning principles. Then Dave Leathery will return to take us into our next segment. We've just learned what hackers do. Now to become more familiar with the tools that I might use, our advisory committee of officers thought you should take a virtual tour of some computer gadgets and hardware. So earlier this summer, we turned the studio here into a computer store. Leading us through this maze is Scott Chin. He's a supervising probation officer here in the District of Columbia, who also happens to be his district's automation coordinator. Scott, thanks for being here. Glad to be here, Mark. Before we get to all of the equipment and hardware, let me first ask you a more general question, which is why is it important for officers to know about this stuff and how does it relate to their job? Mark, it's about accessing information, illegal information, receiving that information, to find that information in a criminal format. Officers now, given the cyber environment we're at, need to understand what the landscape looks like and what are some of the tools that cyber criminals are using to commit the crimes. Okay, and we've got several of those tools here. We've split them up into groups. So let's start at the beginning with group one, the basic workstation. Mark, this is your standard computer, your CPU, central processing unit. Officers need to look for clone versions of the legal loaded software. Your monitor, this is a standard monitor, but look for the high end flat screen monitors, high resolution color monitors, high end resolution monitors used for counter-fitting and for child pornographers. Okay, and this contraption? This is your standard inkjet printer. You can print out basic spreadsheets, drug, transaction forms, whatever text documents you may use. The officer needs to look for laser jet printers that can print out crisp clean documents, counter-fitting type documents, and also child pornography images. Okay, now still sticking with group number one, the basic workstation, what do we have here? Mark, this is your basic laptop notebook computer. This is the same thing here, except in a smaller, more mobile environment here. So we're getting portable with this? That's right. You can do the same thing, like I said there, except this is concealable. So if an officer comes to the house and he's looking around for a computer, this can be put in the trunk, anywhere. All right, so we're getting smaller, more portable, and more difficult to detect? That's correct. Okay, now we're going to move on to group two. What do we have here? Okay, Mark, what we do have is, the key here is the storage capacity of these devices. Okay. And their external components. Number one, basically offenders can hide this stuff in the house when an offender comes to do a home visit. Okay. These are large, these are jazz, zip drives. They can be large amounts of information and files can be stored on these. Okay. And can be stored and hidden away from the officer. Okay, as opposed to the more traditional hard drive, which is what we have here. That's correct, Mark. And that would be installed in a regular CPU. That's correct. Or even a larger, more old-fashioned, external hard drive. They store a lot, these new different types of drives and disks, zip and jazz and CD, which we'll talk about in a minute, store a lot of information, lots more information, and they're portable. That's correct. So they can be hidden from officers. That's correct, Mark. Okay. Another item here is your CD recordable. Basically, you can take the CD out, put it in a CD recordable machine. Okay. Put it in, download the information, and you're ready to go. So this is another storage type of device on a CD level. All right. Okay. Well, that's pretty comprehensive in terms of storage devices. Right. Now, moving right along to our next group, let's take a look at some graphics devices. Okay, Mark. This is your handheld scanner.  So you just pass that right over the document. That's true, and it goes right into the computer. Okay. Here's a desktop scanner. Right. What you can do is for child pornography images, counterfeit documents, whatever imaging item you need to photograph and modifying the computer can be done here. So there's a trend here where we're becoming more and more sophisticated, more and more portable, as we saw with the scanner and with some of the storage devices. And speaking of portable, sticking with graphics stuff, we've got a camera. Okay, Mark. This is your basic digital camera. There's no film in it. It's held digitally in the camera. What happens is you take so many pictures, and you download it to the PC, and then you can view images there. So no film required for this. No film required. Officers need to know that if they go to their offenders' homes and they say digital recorders or digital video cameras, they need to watch out. That should raise a red flag, especially if the offender is a child pornographer. Very interesting. Okay. Let's move along to our next group, which deals with communications devices. Okay. Scott, what do we have here? What is this monstrosity? Mark, this is your basic fax machine. It serves a dual purpose. Number one, you can receive information and you can print information from your laptop or your CPU. You can receive threatening devices, photos of children. Counterfeit documents can come through here. This is your standard standalone fax machine copier. Your computers, like the laptop, will also have that same feature of receiving faxes and sending faxes. All right. And this is something that straddles the line between graphics and communication because it has both capabilities. It can copy and print, and it can communicate. That's right, Mark. Okay. Sticking with communications devices, but getting more sophisticated, more portable, what are these gizmos? Mark, these are called, and for the special conditions when the court imposes, these are called connected devices. Okay. But on the technology side, they're called PDAs, Personal Digital Assistance. Okay. Here's a large version. You can store information, receive information off the internet. If there's no wireless connection, you can have an external connection to the computer or you can use the cell phone to dial in. Okay. Okay. I think more in line has been the smaller palm pilot. Same thing. You can receive information, use for calendaring, email, even log into the internet. Okay. So welcome to the 21st century. Exactly, Mark. I think one of the sort of common denominators here is not only the wireless capability, but the screen. Correct. And this, Mark, if there's no wireless capability, you can use a cell phone to dial in. Right. Regarding the cell phone, now you can receive information, email, use the internet and receive information in a larger screen. Okay. All right. And what are some of these other gadgets back here? This is an external modem that's used, wire goes into the computer or your laptop, and then you plug in your phone line here and you're ready to go. Okay. And now most computers or pretty much all computers are coming with internal modems. That's correct, Mark. Just little cards that are in the actual machines. Right. It can either be in a laptop or in a regular desktop. Correct. And all you do is just plug your phone line in and you're ready to go. All right. Do you have any other words? Yeah.  Okay. If you take a look at it, the connection is a lot bigger than your telephone line. Mm-hmm. This will allow you to receive more information faster. Okay. Okay. This DSL cable lines, they receive a lot of information. DSL standing for Digital Subscriber Line. Got it.  Okay. And a lot of information. All right. Okay. And finally, we're going to move on to some equipment here in our last group. Okay. Of hardware, much of which has no legitimate purpose. Exactly. Maybe you can elaborate. Mark, these are called skimming devices. An offender will run a credit card through it. Okay. Download it into the PDAs and then transfer that information into a reader, writer or encoder. Okay. Okay. What happens is stolen credit card is received here. Okay. And this takes all of the full-track data. Right. Off the encoder. Right. And what happens is this information is placed in the reader, writer. Right. And you take a blank credit card and run it through or your credit card which could be a visa. Right. The card he scanned could be a master card. Right. And you would take his information. Okay. And be able to use his credit. And the victim wouldn't know until he gets his monthly statement 30 days later. So again, this is what we're here to look out for. That's correct. We were recently at the Secret Service here in Washington and they're the ones who deal with credit card fraud and they thought it would be a good idea for us to show officers two other pieces of equipment. The embosser and the tipper. The embosser being the machine that raises the numbers and letters on the credit card and here's the credit card stock with the magnetic strip and the tipper which puts the gold, silver or black card on the raised letters and numbers. And that's sort of part of the credit card fraud package. Very cool. Couldn't turn it down so here it is. Okay. So this is the stuff I guess officers need to be looking out for, right? I think so, Mark. They should have this type of hardware should not be in the home at all. Thank you, Scott. Thank you, Mark. You'll get a chance to meet Scott when we return from our five-minute break. In the meantime, please keep your faxes and questions and keep your rosters and evaluations. We'll be right back.


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Right welcome back to the Averige Golfers channel and down here at 4Golf to test another Jumbo grip there was so much interest and a bit of confusion as to why a few weeks ago when I tested out an 8-year-old driver with an XL Jumbo Max grip on why did it perform so well? The obvious thing was to stick a new grip onto my current driver we'll do some testing and see, was it pure fluke or is there something in these Jumbo grips? Mae'n dwi'n ffordd. Fe ydych yn ffordd o'r Ffawrgol yn ffordd, felly gynny'n ffordd o'r Armukgardd yn Cheser. A'r ffordd o'r bwrdd i'r gwrdd y club o'r ffordd o'r Ffairways i'w gwrthod. Ond mae'n golygu ei gwybod o'r twist o'r Ffardd o'r Ffawrgol yn ffordd ac mae'n gweithio'r bobbyl iawn. Oherwydd mae'n gweithio'r bydd. Y cweri o'r ffordd o'r ffordd o'r ffordd o'r ffordd i'w gwybod I had used an eight-year-old driver, wasn't my driver, wasn't my shaft. I literally borrowed it just for the video. We were baffled by the numbers that were achieved and hence why I'm back here today. So I have got my Jumbo Max Ultra Light Grip large on a modern shaft. It's on my current driver. But I've also got a regular shaft, the identical shaft with a regular grip on. That's what we're going to do. We're going to return back to foregolf, collect data with both these driver's shafts, see what the difference is between the two, and then you're going to return, join me here, where I'm going to try this out on the fairways in reality. But for now, back to foregolf. Right, so I am as interested in this as anybody to be honest with you because I was, like I said, so confused with the performance last week.   Just as a point of reference, I used the Epic Max LS Head and there's a 50g stiff shaft in it. As you can see from the three shots that I'm going to show you now, my performance was pretty decent. Testing the tips has done me a few favours to be fair. First ball out there, 240. We've got another ball out there at 241. And as you can see, that final ball was right on the tips to be honest with you in terms of my own performance at 246. That's as good as I've hit all year in terms of anything with that Max LS driver on a video. The confusion lies with last week when we recorded the sort of the Jumbo Max grip video, I recorded data at high end 248 and last week when I tried it off camera, we broke that 250 bario for the first time. So it led to me ordering some of these grips and what we've got on today. It's a Jumbo Max Lite, it's slightly different and this is large. It's a large grip size, so slightly smaller obviously than that XL, but not a lot in it to be fair. Put it on to this same shaft as what we've got.  Record some data and what did I actually experience today? I've got to admit, first thing is that switching into it this week, it doesn't feel anywhere near as alien. So even though it's far from the norm, just having to go over in these previous two weeks and the sessions that I've been in here, it feels okay, I'm used to it, I'm much more comfortable when I thought last week I didn't think I would anywhere near be able to hit a shot. But anyway, let's stop talking for a little bit, I'll let the first one. We're on track, man. Let's see if we can get one going and see what happens. Can we get up and out there again? Right, here we go. That's another high launching ball. Once was a left bunker, is it? So we've got left bunker as the line. 240 carry, that's not a bad start, again. So the 240 carry was again very similar to a ball, I'm pretty sure we achieved that with the other driver, regular driver shaft on. So we've achieved nothing different as there. Probably one of the things that you notice with this grip on. And I don't know whether again this is good or a bad thing. You certainly have to work just that little bit harder, otherwise the clubhead can seem to be just get left behind a little bit. So it's important that you go on to that sort of first tee with some positivity and don't hold back on this, right? Let's give this one another go. That's a ball. That's gone for miles. It's going in the bunker. No, wow. 256 yards, oh my God, that is literally. That is the longest ball we've recorded at any point, han? We've got a yes from Han. I'm pretty sure that I have never done anything like that in terms of carry. I thought we were going in the bunker, but 256. That's I said to you last week I recorded 254. That's way out there and far, far different than what I was expecting. I'll be honest with you in the warm up to this. We've not seen massive differences. I've tried both shafts getting ready and we were in and around that sort of 240 mark plus, but 256 is by far the biggest ball we've hit so far. And again, no logic to this whatsoever. I'm going to try one more ball. Still a little bit confused by this, right? It's another solid strike as well. We got right down the middle here. My God, I mean, this is just flying down there. That's 253 yards. That's incredible distance. And again, the confusion is and I've come off the sort of regular shaft just sort of 15 minutes ago. And I can assure you we haven't broke 250 with it. I don't want any spoiler alert right now, but to achieve two balls while the camera's on a 256 and 253. I'm again, a bit like last week, a little bit confused, because it's very difficult to apply some logic in this. A lot of people last week spoke about how that one, it kills their hands and I'm certainly really understand that it does that. And also people sort of delayed the sort of release of the club head a little bit. And again, there's some logic in that, relax the forearms a little bit. So again, all these logics that might apply to as to why you might increase certain numbers, but it's still, for me, leave so much confusion. But the mere fact that we're now in sort of. Well, we're a number of balls in and yet again, this three weeks running, I've broke 250 with a jumbo max grip on. Suggest that is something in this. I just for whatever reason, I just can't fully jump into it and accept it. I don't know why. What a ball to finish stroke one. Another drive and another straight shot, which is the bit that absolutely it riles me in some ways, to be honest with you, because like I said, I would love to be able to put more logic in it. The only thing that I can say is that it's killed their hands. And again, we've seen more shots that have gone straight in terms of dry ball data. I'm going to flip back to what we gathered between the two different shafts earlier on at Forgolf. And to be honest with you, there's no real story there, unfortunately either, because all it tells me is that there's a little bit more clubbed speed with the with the with the fatter grip. Now, again, there's logic applied to that. There could be a little bit delay in the release of the club head. People talk about relaxing of the forearms, not being able to really grip tight and throttle down. So again, that killing of their hands. So logically, have we produced a little bit more clubbed speed? Therefore, a little bit of ball speed, I don't know. The launch angle again was a little bit higher. I know out on the course I've seen again that it launches the ball consistently high. But the one thing that remained consistent throughout and the only thing that remained consistent throughout is that I hit a ball on camera. I think at 256, one at 253. And in the dry ball data, we got one out at 251. And with the regular grip, we never broke 250 once. So if you just look at that alone, yes, there is I think that suggests there is extra distance by using this grip. But whether it provides it consistently enough, whether it provides straight enough shots consistently enough, I still don't know if I'm honest with you. I know being out here on the course was a different situation today, even from the first tee that we started off trying it felt a little bit alien. Maybe I was a little bit tentative with it. So it's something that you have got to get your head round a little bit and get used to. But we're now in what this is, the ninth hole. A bit of fair few drives here with it. I'm now comfortable. I'm releasing that clubbed fairly well. And as you've seen what we finished off there is a decent drive. So I'll see how I get on for the next few holes. And it'll stay on for a little while. And I don't know big debate because there's another video coming to you in the next couple of days where I've put an extra large grip or a jumbo grip wherever you want to call them on to a seven iron and on to a five wood. And that's what I've been testing out here today. And you'll see my theories on how they perform, then whether or not it's something you'll see in my bag for the rest of for the near future at least anyway. Right, as ever, thanks for watching. Before this tractor makes too much noise in the backdrop. Comments down below. Hit that like button and I will see you all soon. And thank you to Cardin Park for letting us use the course today. It's been absolutely glorious that he's getting really close. See you later.


The Senate on Wednesday suspended Plenary for one week to enable its members to participate in discerning public hearing across the country. The president of the Senate, Ahmed Lawan, said the exercise would be held in 12 centres across the country on 26th and 27th of May. Lawan urged Nigerians to participate fully in the exercise. He added that the National Assembly had no preconceived agenda but would be open to suggestions from Nigerians and how to move the country forward. It's an exercise for our country and I will take this opportunity to appeal to all Nigerians who have one issue or the other that they think the Constitutional Review Committee of the Senate should know and take note and address. It's an opportunity to go to the centre nearest to you. We are open. We are playing. We don't have any preconceived or predetermined positions on anything. The numerous issues that Nigerians feel should be addressed to make Nigeria better, to make citizens cured and enhance the welfare of our people are utmost in our consideration. Because of this so important assignment by this very important committee of the Senate, the Senate will suspend Plenary throughout next week. This is to enable not only the committee members but the rest of us who are not even members of the Constitutional Review Committee to participate in the exercise. Once again, we wish our committee on the review of the Constitution, the base of outing, and Nigerians should take every possible opportunity to be there to present whatever they feel strongly about, how this country should be better.


In this video, we're going to talk about setting up your development environment. So for Java development, we're going to need any operating system, which is probably an operating system that you are using, macOS, Windows, Linux. I'm saying 8 gig of memory is probably the minimum. 16 gig or more is probably preferred just because of the nature of running Java and our IDs and whatnot. They do tend to take up a good bit of memory. We will be using Java 11 or higher. You can use the official Oracle Java or OpenJDK. That is up to you. But be sure to have JDK installed. Docker engine 2.0.10 or 0 or higher is what I'm recommending for the course. And then as far as build tools, if we get into those, we'll be using Maven version 3.6.0 or higher. Ideally, you want that installed for command line use. If you have any questions about that, see the official Apache Maven documentation. They do a pretty good job of explaining that. And it does vary depending on what operating system you are using. So verify your environment. Make sure that Java is installed. You can do that with Java minus version. Make sure the JDK is installed. I see that happen sometimes where you install the incorrect flavor of Java and get a JRE rather than a JDK. And to verify that, you can use Java C version. That tells you that the Java compiler is there. Therefore, you have the JDK. Maven, from the command line, ideally, you'll be able to run MVN minus V to show the version. Then Docker, of course, we want to see Docker PS. In the source code examples, I will be using IntelliJ Ultimate. This is a paid product, but it is not required. I'm using anything that we build is going to be used through Maven. That is a build tool, which is supported by free ID options, such as STS Eclipse and NutBeans. So those all support Maven. Maven can also be solely used from the command line. So you could use just a text editor and the command line, and you would be just fine. So IntelliJ definitely is not required for the course. Kubernetes, as we get into the Kubernetes content, you are going to need access to a Kubernetes cluster. Online, you can use the OpenShift Playground. Just Google OpenShift Playground. It'll take you right to it. You get a free hour within a Kubernetes cluster to do what you would like. I will be running locally. So if you've installed Docker Desktop, I am running a macOS, and I have installed that. You can simply enable that. So via Docker Desktop, this is probably going to be the easiest option if you have Docker Desktop installed. And then Minicube is a VM-based that is available for most major operating systems or kind. This is another project that is Docker-based. And depending on how you set things up, you do want to have a cube control configured to connect to your cluster option. So depending on how you've decided to run your cluster, that is going to be one option that you can utilize.


Standard of California on behalf of standard stations and independent chevron gas stations throughout the West Invite you to let George do it Another adventure of George Valentine personal notice danger is my stock and trade if you have something that must be handled with complete confidence Then you need me George Valentine right full details Dear mr. Valentine hatred between brothers is an old and tragic story More tragic in my case because in all the years. We haven't seen each other My brother Phil hasn't been exactly a model of virtue. I Feel I'm at least partially responsible and I'd like to make it up to him somehow. I think I Exceeded in locating him, but at this point I need your help you can reach me at the hotel Stapleton It's signed sincerely yours Martin Bethner Gosh, I think in a way, this is well touching one brother realizing his error and Broxy you're a died in the wolf sentimentalist I bet you still have your first doll in your first dance program stashed away somewhere Yeah, along with some other sentimental relics. I've collected since I met you a blackjack an old and faded poison pen letter one Sawed off Angel to say what do you say we call this mr. Betner at the Stapleton and see just what he has on his mind I Called you in mr.  What do you mean by that mr. Betner? Well, look here mr. Valentine miss Brooks Yes, here in the personal notice column in the paper your ad is just under mine Oh, yes now. I remember your ad you've been running this for a week or so. That's right miss Brooks I just didn't tie it up with your letter. Let me see that Uh fellow, let's forget the past if you'll meet me halfway we can make up for all that bitterness There's even a place waiting for you in the family business. I'm at the Stapleton Martin, but you said you'd located your brother mr. Betner you must have gotten in touch with you I said I think I've located my brother But a Phil has seen my ad. He hasn't answered it. I got only one reply from a Renee Clemens Take a look at it mr. Valentine Was it say George? Oh Well, it seems miss Clemens knows where Phil Betner quote the rat unquote is now hold up She's wanting to part with that information for a price for you to be arrived at. Well, what's the problem bet there? Well back in Waynesville. I know my way around but you're in this town. I'm like a fish out of water Back home. I've got my own hardware business. I know everybody to look at and they know me, but here it's different Oh, I see Well, why don't you just drive the best bargain you can with this gal pay her off with a dated check Then see if her information is the real thing. Oh, it isn't just the money I don't know the kind of people Phil's been associating with in the last five years. This could be some kind of trap You'll all flop better if you came along with me to see this miss Clemens. All right good enough But look right now you've been hitting that your brother has been operating a little on the shady side Well, I'm afraid so well and the police could tell you where he was just like that if you got in touch with them I checked Phil has no police record. Thank heavens. He's been mixed up in gambling mostly horse racing and so far He's been lucky Two weeks ago some people in Detroit told me left for here and that's all I know Well assuming miss Clemens is a local girl Your brother must have worked pretty fast to make such an indelible impression in two weeks I don't know what to think But I've got to find Phil and talk to him. Well first. Let's have a talk with Renee She may know whereup. She speaks, but I'm afraid her price won't be reasonable It'll cost you 500 bucks now wait a minute sister the name is miss Clemens And I should up the pricey and that all of a sudden I'm dealing with three people please miss Clemens I asked miss Brooks mr. Valentine to come along with me 500 bucks, but mr. Batten only wants his brother's address. He doesn't want to make a down payment on the house Oh, I see we've got a bastard girl here. All right ladies enough of this panty the price is too high miss Clemens Sorry, come on bet now. Yes, let's get going. Oh wait a minute What kind of a deal would you go for? Well, I'll tell you I'll be lavish with mr. Betten his money 250 cash. I have that much right here with me. What do you say? Well, miss Brooks still doesn't seem to approve of the price All I can say is you're lucky you're dealing with men Some girls are lucky to have what it takes to get what they want all you've got is an address And it's not even your own listen here. You break clean girls $250, Miss Clement. All right Certainly Here you are Now where can I find my brother? It's 356 Moreno Street a grimy broken down rooming house It's so dark. You need a seeing-eyed dog to get up the stairs. I got you just a cottage small by a waterfall Thanks, we'll find out why just be sure you tell him Renee sent you. Hmm. I wish I could be there to see the look on his face If you know Philip is so dead set against getting in touch with me. Why are you doing this? Hmm? Let's be charitable Say I wouldn't mind if he dropped dead and it'd be a pleasure to spend the 250 bucks on flowers for his funeral. Oh, I knew she had a kind heart Well, we may as well be going Valentine I know if I can just speak to Phil everything will be all right. Yeah 356 Renault Street a miss Clemens you heard me that better be Phil Betten his place Or you'll find his brother is just an Indian giver get what I mean Well, this is it number seven. He's got his card tacked up on the door Philip Bettner Investments, huh? Who's getting home? This is worse than I thought Looks like nobody's home. We'll wait right here till he comes back I don't think that'll be very comfortable. Uh, do you mind paying for a locked bet now? What? What do you mean, George? Just Listen Oh golly, where's the window this place hasn't been aired out in a week Eternal feminine. I I don't know what I'll say to Philip. I don't want to hurt his pride What have you got there Valentine? Well, it looks like this desk is your brother's investment office His favorite and only investment being horses. I knew it was something like that. What's up, darling? December 20th $1,000 Henning January 3rd 3,500 Henning and cetera cetera and all to Henning. What's that supposed to mean now? Wonder your brother Phil is living in a dump like this from the way this stacks up He owes about 25 grand to Lou Henning Wait a minute, Angel. You see better. This character Lou Henning is the big shot bookie in this town You don't go around owing him 25,000 bucks for too long. Oh, I was just trying to explain to better What's the matter with you, Brooksy? That that red spot under the closet door. Hey, wait a minute. What's the matter? What's wrong? It's all dried up Blood George. It's not red ink. What do you think that could be? Henning has his own way of collecting debts Well, there's one sure way to find out That's not Phil Who is it? This my friend is Lou Henning just about as dead as you can get with a knife stuck in your back Phil wouldn't do a thing like this. He might have been a lot of things But he's not a killer. I wouldn't know Brooksy. Yes, George There's no phone here beat it down the corner and call a tenant chance. Oh, I won't mind getting out of here at all Valentine Couldn't we close that closet door? Sorry from now on we can't touch anything. Oh, I I Suppose the police will just take it for granted that Phil did this killing. What would you think in their place? I guess you're right. I look better. I'm not saying your brother did this But as soon as Henning's mob finds out what's happened, they're gonna jump to their own conclusions What I'm trying to say is Let's hope the police find him first. I see Valentine yeah, you're still working for me, aren't you? I was but things are a little different No, they aren't you you still have to find my brother Hold on wait a minute find him before he shot down in cold blood With the police at least you'll have a chance to explain all this if there is an explanation You're putting me on a tight rope bet now the police on one side Henning's boys on the other if it's a question of money Whatever you say Henning's been in that closet a couple of days I'm gonna be easy picking up your brother's trail. I'm not asking you to promise me anything, but but try will you? Okay, okay, it's a deal But if Henning's mob gets to fill first That Clemens Dame will be spending that 250 on flowers for your brother's funeral We'll return to tonight's adventure of George Valentine in just a moment meanwhile a word about gears Most folks just couldn't say whether the gears in their cars are spur worm spiral or hypoid But the men at standard stations and at independent chevron gas stations know the minute you drive in and because there are so many different kinds of gears in today's cars all these service stations carry a variety of lubricants to meet their special needs RPM lubricants each one Taylor made to carry away heat to keep gears shifting easily To do a better wear-saving job Make sure you get an RPM lubricant next time you get that 5,000 mile change for your transmission and differential gears While you're at the independent chevron gas station or standard station Ask for a free copy of batter up the new illustrated handbook on baseball It's a gift to you from the service stations that say and mean we'll take better care of your car And now back to tonight's adventure of George Valentine Am I my brother's keeper? Martin Bettner thought so and hired George to help him locate his black sheep brother Philip But when they arrived in Phil Bettner's room, they found a body in the closet the body of Lou Henning a big shot bookie George has just sent Claire to the corner drugstore to call Lieutenant Johnson Be reasonable Bettner. I promise you I'd look for your brother, but I can't leave until Lieutenant Johnson gets here He's gonna have an awful lot of questions to ask but Phil won't have a chance of Lou Henning's men get to him first You said so yourself. I know I know All right, there's one thing I will do though make a phone call I think I know just the character who might be able to give me a lead on Phil. I'll be back in a few minutes Oh say I just remembered. I think I saw a phone down in the hall when we came in You could have thought of that before I Wouldn't be calling you out both if I wasn't willing to pay for the information Yeah, the name's Bettner Phil bet me Doesn't mean anything to you, huh? Now look out both. You're my favorite pawnbroker. You know everything that goes on in this part of town He's probably hiding out Okay, I'll drop around your place in an hour or so The whole white shot Hey, what goes here? Hey, better open the door so we can have some light out here in the hall with you Come on before I break my name Now you stay right there by the head of the stairs George till I put on this light That angel open the door to bet there. Yeah Looks like you got the same treatment. I did. Hey, see how he is. Will you brook see I couldn't bend down now to pick up a thousand dollar bill Mr. Bettner. Mr. Bettner. Are you all right? Oh Good at least he's making a noise George. He was knocked out too. It was Phil. I Was standing there and he he came in the door and let me help you get up, Mr. Yeah, wait a minute. Are you sure it was Phil? I I tried to talk to him But he picked up that desk lamp and hit me with it. You better sit down. Thank you your brother So that's the one who threw me down the stairs Why did he come back? What was he looking for Valentine? At least we know that Phil can't be very far from here That should help you find him. I mean you're still interested in finding that brother of yours He didn't know what he was doing. He didn't even give me a chance to talk to him You stay here in the hall, Hennessy What is this the same James infirmary? Oh, Lieutenant Johnson get your point lieutenant Bettner here, and I took a little worse for the wear, but we managed to outlive the corpse. Where is it Valentine over there? What do you know? It is Henny Let you in on a little secret miss brooks.  Oh, Hennessy Get the fingerprint boys and the photographer and we'll go to work.  This is Philip Bettner's brother Martin. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. That's all right Lieutenant, I I know there's only one thing you can think but I still insist my brother didn't kill this man Look, I may as well tell you mr. Bettner. We've got a general alarm out for your brother. Yes I suppose as usual mr. Valentine You've got an all together different theory about this thing on the contrary lieutenant.  You know what you're supposed to do? Yes, George But you don't know what you're asking of me René brings out the fish wife in me The black Mariah will be taking us both away. Go on. Oh until that gal in there didn't tell us half what she really knows Maybe because you do rubber the wrong way we can find out some more Well, okay, and when you're through wait for me in the lobby of the Stapleton, I don't get there. I'll give you a call He's so good to me Now for René wish I'd let my fingernails grow Yes, miss. What? Well, well Now all you have to do is whistle. Yeah, and I'll send you my grandfather's OU kid button Huh? Oh never mind Bogart get on your switchboard and call Miss Clemens tell her I'm coming up to see her sorry miss She just left and I'll be leaving in an hour myself. Does that mean anything to you listen, Junior? Did Miss Clemens say where she was going and was there anybody with her? Sorry, I don't know a thing about the affairs of our tenants. Oh, I get it Oh now a bright good-looking boy like you must notice everything I could tell that the way you looked at me as soon as I came in well Knowing yourself as you do. Can you blame me? Oh, if you keep saying those things you're gonna spoil me sure thing The name's Tommy. Yes, Thomas Now about Miss Clemens. She left about five minutes before you came in. She had a couple of bags with her She was with a big tall guy. Yes, Tommy. He had kind of wavy hair, and I think she called him Phil. Huh? Oh That's fine Tommy. That's just what I wanted to know. How can I ever thank you? Well, I told you I'll be off in an hour. Say wait, what was your name again? I'll mail it to you on your 21st birthday, and that's a promise Tommy Now look out folks. Why are you making like a clam all of a sudden? Is that what I was doing? Oh, don't give me that. You've been selling information about people for years. Why the sudden? Oh, I get it. You already know about Lou Henning. Who doesn't? Now look, Valentine Why don't you forget you ever heard of Phil Bettner? If I'm afraid to talk to you, who will? Sorry to interrupt your pool game friend, but why do you Sanderson said you might know where I might find Phil? Look brother. You're stranger to me. Let's keep it that way Okay boys, here's the last race hyaluric queen mag win 880 place Say mister hey, tell me you're looking for information Who tells you oh word gets around It's about PB ain't it. Yeah, that's right. Got anything I can use if you're willing to pay for it What do you say we step out here?  Here's five tens and don't try chiseling for more because it won't work I wouldn't do this to my best friend except I had a bad day at the truck never mind that now Where do I find Phil Bettner? 22 and a half Jackson please Okay Valentine I got your call where's Phil Bettner Yeah, lieutenant that's your boy. What's left of them so Hennings mob did catch up with him first It's about as needed job as I've ever seen yeah, it's been right cozy sitting here waiting for you I know you lead an awful tough life Valentine Look, we're going to get him out of the morgue. You get his brother down there to identify. Yeah, I'll do that You don't mind if I make a telephone call first what for I promise Brooks he faithfully I wouldn't leave us sitting in that lobby all night And I suppose what I wanted to tell you isn't too important now Rene left her apartment with Phil a few hours ago Yeah, yeah, but look angel tell Martin Bettner to meet me at headquarters He has to identify his brother, but don't tell him why I'll take care of that myself.  I just saw something walk across the lobby, and I'm gonna follow it You're talking about it later angel. I'll be seeing you Going somewhere miss Clemens. Oh The Vassar girl again. Yeah Now look dearie. How about you and me going to the morgue together? What are you talking about? Oh, they'll probably want to ask you some questions about Phil And I'd hate to see you take this bus and have to come all the way back I'm taking this bus. You're just making things very difficult. What are you gonna do about it? Oh, I'm just gonna tear your hair out and scream all over the place Then they'll slap us both in jail for disorderly conduct and the jail is right next door to the morgue. You wouldn't dare. Oh, no Stop it Okay, you win. I knew you'd be reasonable. Where's that client of yours anyway, Valentine? Please lieutenant be compassionate Just told Betner his brother's lying here in the morgue. He's having a cup of black coffee be here in a minute. Oh Swanson, yes, lieutenant got the tag on Betner all filled out. That's got through making it out Betner Philip aged 36 Caucasian height six foot two weight 190 identifying marks of any right arm withered appendicitis scar port wine birthmark of your left knee, okay? I'll take your word for it Wherever you get him down the aisle there number 302 when you get through identifying them. Let me know and I'll put them away Come on Valentine. Hmm.  Oh, no. No, I was just thinking See three oh two right down there, sir. I think they're waiting for you now. Thank you. Oh, there's better now. Yeah Are you okay now? Yes? I I think so Could we make this as quick as possible? I know I know of course just necessary routine Yeah Is this your brother? Yes, that's Phil. Well, that's all there is to it. Mr. Betner will just put the sheet back over Now what give yeah, what is it brooksy look who I found George. Well, we meet again miss Clemens So that's what you saw walking across the lobby. Who is this? She's the young lady who gave us the information about my brother. Oh Well, you might as well identify him to miss just for the record. Oh, Phil. Yes, that clinches. Oh, I Tried to tell him he wouldn't have a chance to get standing, but he wouldn't listen to me How am I gonna go on without him? I can't isn't this a sudden reversal miss Clemens not long ago You were willing to sell him out to his brother for $250. Yes, and even spend that money on flowers for his funeral. What's that? I didn't know what I was saying. I was so right. I guess I loved him too much He said he's gonna walk out on me and Well, that's why I I answered that ad of yours mr. Betner. It doesn't really matter now does it? Lieutenant Johnson, I suppose I can call down here and make all the necessary arrangements about the body Just talk to Swanson that's all I'd like Phil to be buried in Waynesville in the family plot. Don't worry about a thing You know look too well, you better get back to your hotel get some rest I'll see you about the bill before I leave Valentine. Oh, we won't have to wait for it that long. I Got it for you right now Come on, come on get up better. What's the idea? Uh-huh a nice 38 you're packing Bob. Is this what you mean by the hardware business?   Yes, baby. It is Phil. What's that? Then who's this guy in the slab Martin? I think And what do you got to say to that Phil nothing, okay?   You don't know what you're talking about It's beginning to make sense to me go on Valentine. You aren't smart at yourself Phil You should never have put that light out and throw me down those stairs You see that's something Martin couldn't have done in a million years Well, you see for yourself his right arm. We heard the report of Swanson There was nothing wrong with Phil, but Martin Bettner had a withered arm No, I wonder Brooksy Why is it that when brothers hate each other it's worse than all the Hatfields and the McCoys locked in one closet Didn't you suspect anything about Phil before Swanson read that tag at the morgue? Well when that character in the bookie joint saddle up volunteering information, it was a little too good to be true You mean Phil planted him there? But sweet face blood is thicker than water brothers should love each other I thought it was pretty unfeminine for Renee to rat on Phil one moment Then leave with him the way Tommy told me she did you didn't even listen to me Did you when I was telling you about that on the phone? Well, maybe with one ear then when I saw in the lobby of the same hotel where Martin was staying Well, I had a hunch too. Oh, of course It wasn't one of those scientific hunches you get yeah, yeah, but about brothers Brooksy Do you think it's familiarity that sometimes breeds such man? Oh not necessarily now look at husbands and wives They go on for years and years living together and well, they never think of murdering each other Brooksy you just haven't lived and now a message of importance to motorists Can you imagine our friend George Valentine driving into a station and saying his car needed oil You wouldn't catch George that way. 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Okay so as I said we've got a lot of speakers I'm the first one so I can introduce myself with any further ado. In my Twitter description hopefully you've seen me in social media I use a quote from a song called Red Shoes that goes I used to be disgusted but now I try to be amused as I think it's kind of good to have a sense of humor as we go through this life you know it helps but in the early stages of this general election campaign I have to tell you I'm much more disgusted than amused. You see here today we're talking about real issues things that actually matter as far as I can see this election that we're in the middle of or in the early stages off it's about fake issues it's about on real things and I've had a stomach full of it already I don't know about you so let me just talk about the three big parties and what I consider is they're all all their fake narratives that are being pumped out every day. On Brexit which let's face it is dominated British politics for the last three and a half plus years big issue we've got Boris Johnson flogging us mezz atrocious deal with a bit of lipstick stuck on it and insisting it's a great new deal that hashtag gets Brexit done. Does anybody swallow that? Gough? Anyone? Of course so to repeat nobody swallows that kind of nonsense it's what Johnson is proposing is exactly the same as what Theresa May was proposing except he has graciously decided to replace the UK wide backstop with the Northern Ireland only backstop now with my accent you can imagine just how well that's gone down back home. He's placed my part of the UK in the the single market in the customs union under the jurisdiction of the ECJ for up to another six years and he calls that Brexit. It ain't Brexit. You know what he's done is he's essentially surrendered he's surrendered Northern Ireland to the European Union and then he dares to say it's a fantastic deal. Can you imagine how the many leave voters in Northern Ireland feel today? June 23rd 16 we voted to leave now we've been kept in for six more years and told to celebrate. Betrayed sold out and angry I mean who would have believed that a conservative and unionist Prime Minister would create an economic all Ireland I mean even the IRA didn't achieve that and another thing just what a matter you know we don't leave on the 31st of January that's another myth do or die die in a ditch at best at best we will enter transition which could last for up to conceivably the end of 2022 so this is a fake Brexit that's being flogged but haven't the Conservative Party embraced it I mean all those Spartans you know that the Spartans in the the European Research Group the ERG those brave men that Jacob Riesmogs the very early died Jacob Steve Baker's the Marc Francois all of them mighty Brexit tears all now swearing blind that it really is Brexit when it's evidently not Brexit but of course if we have any doubt you know if anyone was to be cynical and say well maybe should quote you know which it can be really trust Boris you know they say well yeah you can he's a kind of guy yet you really can't trust now come on seriously who in the right mind we trust Boris certainly not his first two wives and then of course we have Labour the Labour Party the party of free stuff led by the IRA loving Marxist embracing Goon Corbyn now Labour want to solve Brexit in a way which is almost comical certainly surreal because as you know their big plan is they're gonna if they get elected prego they won't they're gonna go to the EU negotiate a better deal in 12 weeks than the Conservatives have taken three and a half years to negotiate a deal that will keep us close to the single market close to the customs union with open borders you're gonna get this deal and then they're gonna put that on a ballot paper versus remain and then they will campaign for remain and then we all get free broadband I mean the good thing about about Labour is a staggering stupidity of so many around Corbyn I mean come on Diane Abbott as home secretary are we kidding have you seen the quality of the the people that sit around him on the front benches in the Commons I mean I've seen more intelligent life you know lying at the bottom of pawns I mean Labour takes low IQ to a whole new level well of course once we can laugh at them and we should there's a serious side I mean this is a party seething in anti-semitism a party that seeks to court the Muslim vote at all costs and which to my mind at a very basic level is fundamentally anti heaps Britain anti-British that's what Labour is and then we come to the Liberal Democrats ah ha right so that I mean the biggest irony about this mob led by Swinson is of course they're neither liberal nor recognizably democratic as you know and I'm only quoting their terminology they campaigned on bollocks to Brexit lowering political discourse even further just when you thought that wasn't possible in this country Swinson's clear about I mean she couldn't be more blatant if she was to win the general election she will revoke article 50 and so in doing so she will essentially um cancel Brexit and thus dismiss the 2016 referendum result 17.4 million votes don't matter to our Joe and of course Joe thinks she's of course to be Prime Minister have you seen that you know what I know what a bloated monster ego I mean the polls show her party getting I mean she won 12 seats back in 2017 if she gets between 30 and 40 she's probably be doing quite well but she thinks she can get 325 and our lovely media in Dullinger grotesque narcissism it's wonderful so there you go folks three fake parties determined to ensure that you never get a real Brexit and of course happy enough to bribe you with your own taxes during this election and they get away with it so you know how do they get away with all this fakery well I blame the media I always do or rotten corrupt dystopian hellhole media that infests a level that Dante could never have even dreamed of the media that plays along with all these fake parties you know they pretend Boris is a tough guy he's out to deliver a hard Brexit they pretend that Labour really does cost out its Brexit policies they believe that we must listen to Joe Swinson because well she's a woman not that I'm a verse to listening to women and Marie but it depends on what they have to say you know and you're gonna now get over the next few weeks you're gonna have all these TV debates between these these clowns because it is clown world we live in and you you will be asked to then risk the next five years of your life based on what promises they make to you but but wait wait what about there's there's a there's an elephant in the room let's cycle the elephant in the room the Brexit party weren't they going to save the day having topped the poll at the elections back in May well I'm sorry to have to to break it to you but I see them collapsing into almost utter irrelevance Nigel Farage as you know we stood down 317 candidates to ensure that all Tories that held seats in 27 are not challenged even when some of them are still devout remainers and you know and it's not just and it's not just those remainers from 2017 we have to worry about in the conservative constituency of Beckinsfield down the south of England that was held by Dominic Grave one of the worst absolutely toxic remainer so Boris has kicked him out and Boris has replaced him the prospective candidate is a lady called Joy Morrissey now one of the joys of social media is I get to torture people like Joy Morrissey because a little examination into Joy Morrissey's history on Twitter reveals a few odd things like for example in 2016 she campaigned against Donald Trump coming to the United Kingdom she was a vehement Trumpeter she was a big supporter of open borders bring them in that's what our joy was saying and she swears blind that she was an ardent lever but oddly enough she's deleted all our history of tweets leading up to the 2016 gen referendum that's joy Morrissey joy to the world if she gets the elected God help us and of course back to Nigel Nigel stood down then as you saw the other day a further 37 candidates mostly in Scotland so the Brexit Party turns out to be just a party of England a party that stands in some but not all Labour areas and a party now pulling nationally around about 5% it's my view could be wrong but I think the Brexit Party balloon looking at all these balloons around the room the Brexit Party balloon is well and truly being popped for all kinds of reasons some I understand some I'm not happy about but by the time December 12th comes around I question don't know about you folks but I will wonder if they even get one MP elected I doubt it but we'll see and then of course all the while this is the thing the issues that really matter are ignored you know so where is the debate being on the crushing effect of open borders immigration I haven't heard it of you I mean they all whine about the fact that oh our NHS is stretching to breaking point but they never tell you why it's stretching to breaking point not tell you about the millions that have come into this country in the last few years overwhelming public sector services you know they whine about the lack of houses for people about the classrooms bulging clash classrooms but they ignore the the root cause of it and if you listen to Boris Johnson talk about you know their Australian style pop by the Australian point style immigration policy what's clear is nothing's gonna change you know under the Conservatives they're not serious about controlling immigration there won't be a proper debate about immigration and of course if you do talk about immigration instantly you're a Nazi talking of which there's a small matter of Islam now no party wants to talk about that none of these main parties now I think we should discuss how or indeed if Islam can coexist within our pluralist democracies but instead all we get is Islamophobia so no debate on that and I could go on you know what about the pedo rape gangs that infested our towns and cities what about the savage practice of FGM what about the effects of inbreeding and how that cost the NHS millions but we can't talk about these things and we won't be allowed to talk about them during this election instead we're gonna talk about free broadband what about the tsunami of illegals pretending to be asylum seekers you know cross like an arm or should be actually our matter would be a better word and our matter of illegals crossing the channel in their dinghies and then being put up in lovely warm cozy accommodation free food and all care of you the taxpayer you know good that won't be discussed and then a topic which happily we will be talking about later the trans agenda which by any objective standard is perverting the innocence of childhood I'll not be talked about what about the lunacy of the Greta Thunberg climate emergency climate emergency how dare you laugh sir how dare you laugh at Greta no debate just silence so that's why I am pleased to be here today with Anne-Marie and with for Britain at least you guys will talk about matters of substance rather than polished inanities and of course you're going to be labeled as Nazis and fascists for doing so but doesn't matter listen it doesn't matter what people call you and you know this and actually if I'm being really honest it doesn't even matter that we all know Boris Johnson will betray Brexit in the biggest vote in British history it doesn't totally matter what matters is something Katie Hopkins mentioned something so fundamental what matters is everyone in this room says true to their principles that you all recognize that we live in an age when telling truth makes you the enemy of the state these are the things that matter and that's why I believe again if I'm being brutally honest with you I think we live now at a time of what is required is political resistance resistance to the fakery to the dishonesty to the dystopian hell in many regards we're being pushed into and that's why we should resist resist the easy lies and stand up for tough truths and you know we owe that to ourselves we owe that to our families and for the best possible reason of all we owe it for Britain thank you all very much