The Astros go to Washington, DC the capital of the United States and they beat the nationals road teams win What's going on everybody? Welcome to another episode of talking to baseball. We are through three games of the world series of Major League Baseball and we have a series. It could have went up three To nothing and it would have been a bit of a bummer But it's two to one and now anything can happen the Astros come away with the victory like I thought they would Annie ball versus Grand Quay was kind of what we expected it to be in a way I think this episode is brought to you by our most recent Pate tree on supporters Derek Stevens Stephen Derrick's the odds of that are insane. Yeah be meeker Hunter Hawkins. Wow. It sounds like a stranger things thing Hawkins lab hunters in the woods Wow season four I think it might be that chance broussard Aaron Abling Benjamin Reed David Philippitch That's cool Jeremy R. 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Geez But I'm doing well man, and I am excited you and I Drown on to my neighbor's house once at our core We are baseball fans and we did we wanted this to either be full-out shit pumping or a series It's essentially a full-blown series We're gonna get at least a game five and the best pitcher in baseball this year We'll be pitching for Houston in that game five and then if they can bring it back to Houston It'd be verland or so. I'm excited. It's a good series this game You're right like if you had to if you had to gun to your head guess a game script coming into this game You'd be like, okay, you know green key locks in pretty good Houston gets a couple hits against Danny ball and and it rides out from there and that's that's what it was Jew you know the way to San Jose calf West no, I was gonna say something else, but I forgot so I went with that Okay, what did you say before the that last thing you said? Oh I Don't know potential game script.  Yeah How excited are you that that means there's gonna we're gonna get the sports equinox? The speak when ox speak when ox are you excited about that? No, it's very rare Jake No For anyone that doesn't know what that is It's when all four major American sports will be played on the same day very rare Football Sunday you got an MLB game. You got the NBA and you got NHL all in all playing official games that matter very rare if the if the Astros got swept we wouldn't have got it.   You sure wasn't a commercial for that new movie coming out with the old people that are Still doing stuff. Have you seen that the good liar? No, it was news.  Oh, he's great. Anyways What are we talking about how excited you are for the sports equinox you probably you can finally get laid that parlay one game from each major sport Yeah, that actually is kind of fun for for the gamblers. No, man I was I was getting worked the first five innings just watching An incredible nicks come back with the world series never mind if you throw football and hockey on top of it Fine, you want to hear my behind the scenes. I had a big battle with Snyder pretzels, you know those Snyder pretzel bits that are like This one's honey mustard and and onion They are the most addicting thing in the world. So I kept them in the other room I just kept walking back and forth. So this is my last. Yeah, this is my last handful. This is my last handful Yeah, and told literally Good cardio literally until we started doing this podcast. I was going back and forth I guess we have to talk about the game eventually This was a long ass game Nationally game a lot of substitutions a lot of pen usage, right? How many pitchers pitched in this game? At least three Five on both sides. No five and six 11 pitchers got into this game And Jim we saw I mean in the Yankee series and and some of these other games we've seen I mean the teams doing bullpen days even some of the wild card games We've seen more pitchers used and I think they were shorter games But this one just had long at bats it felt like every at bat they'd go o2 Nibble for three pitches and then it's like here's the three to pitch every pitch felt like uh a judge at bat Besides rin don't he was swinging first pitch, but the astros had really got bats. He's trying to speed things up Yeah, he's a nice guy. Let's burn it. Let's listen to your burn And then we'll get into things and the talking points and the gameplay And all that you excited you got a burn Yeah, okay. Well first a word from a sponsor or two and then jake's burn All right, jake Lay it on us one two three burn Game three in the nation's capital is anna ball the animal sanchez And the gnats try to go up three games to none against houston Who hoped zack could be their green key to success top two like when your dog gets excited reddick RBI single one nothing stroze next inning michael scarn brantley raises things to threat level midnight with his rbi infield single Two nothing houston after three But those pesky gnats victor goes oladipo as robles hits an rbi triple one run game until retweet RBI single by brantley and then robin sincherinos robin sincherinos Says let's do something fun on this bachelorette party So he takes a pole dancing class one run home run off the pole Granky was solid the pen was better astronauts take game three to make it a two one series Do you know uh Do you know I I didn't know that the astros was short for astronauts I Knew for a guarantee that when I said astronauts at the end of that you were either going to tell your tale of how you found out Astronauts or be shocked that it was the astronauts when I we were doing the pregame show It is like it is i'm not We're positive that astros is short for astronauts Yeah, if you do all the hort houston sports team like the houston rockets Whoa Yeah, they're a big nasa town in the texans Well, that's okay Well, when uh, we were doing the yankees pregame show And I said what should I put on the bottom line and you said it should be none of the astros No one on houston is an astronaut Right, and I was like whoa, that's what that is. I never pieced it together Which makes me think what did I think astros meant and I just never thought about it as anything besides a baseball player If words sound good, you just accept it as a team and like houston astros. You're like, yeah, sure That's a great pot. That's great. Yeah, and I think I feel people used to link it because they had one of the more famous Astro turf fields So I feel like people kind of connected that mentally.  That's one of the that's one of the most Funniest, what should we name killed it? Should we name the sports team from philly?   I mean imagine if it was the new york new yorkers New york mats You know that that would be like the texas texans houston texans.  I just saw someone tweeted at me and someone said in the chat that like anibal was tipping his pitches Like last now was but I didn't notice that or anything, but i'm interested No, they talked about it on the broadcast. They said that grinky might be tipping his pitches with his grunts You can't say that to a grunt fast. I know, but that's what they were talking about You can't do that Ah doesn't make any sense anyway Jake Granky allowed 10 base runners in four and two-thirds and then he didn't push anything across Like he was he got out of it They didn't get any hits with runners in scoring position, but he got out of it. It was weird I mean he had seven hits and three walks He allowed 10 base runners in four and two-thirds I mean the difference in this game houston went four for 10 with runners in scoring position and the nationals went oh for 10 and it's It's kind of this sick game we play as fans where it's like oh The boys can't get it done with runners in scoring position. It's a game of odds numbers probability and statistics um, you know you're I'm you and I both aren't geeks Compliments to ourselves. We're not smart Um, but you have to understand There's going to be nights in baseball when you go one for 12 with runners in scoring position There's going to be nights where you go six for eight Uh tonight was one of those nights that they just couldn't get the hit that that kind of got the crowd into it And I know as you noted. I mean the the nationals best rally Uh was baby shark Yeah, baby shark's awesome. Well, the nationals had a chance To win this game on an out and I think this is the biggest talking point But I don't know I didn't watch any post games and uh, and I haven't talked to anyone. So it's my biggest talking point okay Anibal sanchez you have a runner on third base You have one out He's the tying run in the bottom of the fourth inning Granky's already come out. No, no, he hasn't but granky's out like 80 pitches I don't know what anibal anibal's pitch count was at But a fly ball ties the game Yeah And they roll the dice and they keep sanchez out there and he buns out I Won't kill him for that because I think it's too Hindsight 2020 but I think it's fair to say that if they did pinch it You could not kill them for that either. You could be like, well, you got to try to get that run in Yeah, it's It's a hindsight's 2020 right and also think about what you just said about grinky like They were getting a lot of action on the bases. Yeah, so at at this point of the game They were like, hey, we're getting our opportunities You know, we're we're a swing away from taking the lead and taking control of this game If if they knew that the bullpen was going to come in and shut them down this hard Yeah, I think they would have pinched it there and maybe go to tyson ross a little earlier who he looked pretty good Um, but yeah, I I don't know. I don't think you can fully play that game with the the playoffs that anibal sanchez has been having so far Um No, I I don't think you can take them out there Okay, I don't either. I wouldn't either the result sucks You you have to have faith that your team can score another run against cranky like we're saying and their bullpen and Your best chances of winning are with anibal keep pitching because he's better than your bullpen if you have to go Four plus innings with them. So I I agree with you Um, but I think there's a lot of people that will be saying, you know, you pinch it get that run and it's different Yeah, I mean there's there's a definite argument and I think it's uh In hindsight you'd you'd look you'd look right at it But you know that if they take anibal out then maybe the nationals bullpen gets rocked and they end up looking like fools Yeah, did cranky win you over this game at all? So I I've got a weird thing going on here. Um Because you'll you'll know this and the people that have been listening to talking baseball It he cracks me up to a degree Um, you know, we saw him earlier this season. There was a crazy Double play where the pitcher covered first and grinky looked incredible and he's like a gold glover. He's one He's won the silver slugger for for a pitcher He's this incredible baseball player But there's and it's his personality and you know, there's some stuff you can't joke about with it And there's anxiety and stuff but like it looks like this guy loves playing baseball But his dream is to play baseball with nobody watching It if there could not be a person in the stands no media know anything. That's his dream world And yeah, man, I I like him I'm I'm not a huge fan of the grunting when you have when you have mics that can really pick up on that That that gets old pretty quick. But no, I like grinky. I just think he's He's not the Zach grinky. He used to be was he grunting really loud tonight Not too too bad, but I don't think they have good grunt mic set up Like when when we when the Yankees played grinky, it was on the trade deadline and it was a day game And the crowd was a little more empty. Yeah, I mean that was intense. Yeah, I posted a video of it just cranky cranky grunts Granky Won me over today. And I I loved all the stuff that soto's been doing. I love the soto shop.  Yeah, all right. Cool. You got me too.  So granky kind of won me over He doesn't last long 95 pitches. He doesn't get out of the fifth but They lost the cold start they lost the verlander start they win the granky start so How about that? Yeah, I I mean, I'll give him credit. I mean his last last couple starts He's had a little bit been don't break but hey as long as you don't break kudos to you um And yeah, huge huge out by uh, james to come in the game Um, and he got I think that was zimmerman in that at bad. That was a fun one in this game But uh, yeah, man, granky did enough and hey kudos to this astros bullpen I I know coming into this playoffs Especially on the american league side and I think this is what skewed us a little bit, jim Is that the yankees have had an incredible bullpen.  That's kind of part of their formula And that's been part of their formula that they'll basically go to any arm any time Um, even oakland when they were in the wildcard They were ready to bullpen that whole game if they needed to houston For everything else around their bullpen is so flashy. There's so many good guys in that lineup They have obviously the big guns starting pitchers that the bullpen gets overlooked, but their bullpen is good Um, you know the story about the astros bullpen coming into this series and last series was oh, they don't have a lefty It's like well You know what when joe smith throwing like that, he's pretty good Will harris is earning himself a lot of money Coming up this free agency and osuna has been really good for a while now and he's still super young Um, so they've got dudes and james probably has the most arm talent of any of those guys But it's just a matter of reeling it in so they've got a talented bullpen But it's compared to the other parts of their team. It's not as flashy Joe smith and I think we said this on the pregame show Which wasn't posted to the podcast app if you're listening on the podcast app But we did go live on youtube before this game So next time we do that. I don't know subscribe to the youtube channel and you can check us out I said like we were talking about who we liked and didn't like and We said we were pretty much indifferent on astros bullpen. Not that we dislike anyone, but whatever Joe smith, it's cool Yeah, he was the one guy before the game before the game. I was like, well, I like that guy I like what he's doing He comes in he strikes out a name you like what? He's got the kind of name you like basic Fundamental strikes out Zimmerman strikes out robles Gomes grounds out looked good. All right jake Braggman another old guy by the way, I don't know if a lot of people know josemus 35 and he's been doing He's been doing it well for a while Yeah, I've been saying 298 era. I've been saying the age Braggman goes 0 for 5 the top of the order springer gets two hits altuba gets two hits brandy gets two hits We have to go back to braggman intentional walk to brandy to get to braggman. That's what I was bringing up Altuba got hit by the pitch and hit his shirt and they were like now I just want to hit which I love altuba. That was awesome. And then uh Yeah, they intentionally walking brandy to get to braggman and then they just get him out It's tough series for braggman team wins. Fernando Rodney 42 years old Love rodney and I'm sorry like bullpen car Yes, I saw that obviously I saw that I mean that is that is phenomenal That might be why he's on the nationals They give pitchers the option. Would you like to run out to the mound or take the bullpen car? And I'd love to see fernando rodney's face I guarantee he doesn't answer with words He just looks at the bullpen car and they kind of are intimidated. They're like so the car and then he just walks in If the car's not there, there's a problem. Yeah I've got fernando rodney never talking I think he's kind of silly But dude, I I don't know and I I sent a kind of a cheeky tweet. Oh, probably some sound Some sour grapes from yankee season I saved it at the end a little bit because I spun it off off on baseball but dude I'm trying to think of any other mvp candidate that you would Potentially walk someone for To get to them Slumps are tough I mean, I mean, I don't think it takes away from his regular season mvp candidate But I get what you're saying you're not trying to diminish what he did in the regular season. You're just saying but It's it's so bizarre that he's being walked They're walking to get to him Yeah, and I I don't want to get into a whole like stature thing or anything like that, but I don't know. I think like that's part of it Like if I'm trying to picture some of the old great hitters that have like recent years I mean Miguel Cabrera's albert pool hulses guys like that like even if they were in a big slump You just don't walk the guy in front of them To get to them and I don't know maybe it's more so speaks to the depth of the houston team But I don't know. I I don't think you we've seen anything really like that Damn, dude Braggman's having a tough series What if they do it again and he doesn't come through again like what if that's the strategy now before they were pitching around him Because right uriel and alvarez were slumping so hard If now they're pitching around Brantley and the people in front of him to get to him.  Oh man. His his approach seems off. I don't know if you've listened to smolty talk Uh during bregman's at bats at all and by the way part of my smolty dislike that I that I'm finding out Is the problem is smolty always favors the pitcher because he's a pitcher He comes at it from pitchers point of view. So when your team's about to rally He always takes the pitcher side and you're just like come on dude like I can't do this. Um anyways Bregman he's talked about his approach the whole time and he says bregman until he gets two strikes. He just looks middle in And I I don't know enough. I haven't watched the full course of alex bregman's regular season at bats But call me crazy call me maybe That feels like a regular season approach If if you get a fastball you can handle that's on the outer half for strike one or strike two Maybe go with that yeah, I mean Anibal's first at bat he he went four high fastballs and In bregman took them all I think Two were balls two were strikes two to count then he drops a high Off-speed pitch that like floater pitch to butterfly And he swings and misses and I'm like they just worked all up in the count to bregman like what yeah It was pretty off like he wasn't animal. I think ball wasn't scared to throw any of those no And then that's not not to make this a rip on bregman because he was one of the best players in the game But fourth inning shot down the line uh And he he can't pick it and that was I I think that was my baseball that was a tough shot No, it was a tough play, but I'm telling you. I mean, what do you think? Like houston fans are saying they're probably looking at that and they're like regular season bregman gets that ball man I don't think so. I don't think he ever gets that ball.  Forish any bobbled it. Well, I'm sure you're missing it, but dude it added Maybe one second Like one mississippi To like that's how long it added from yeah not getting it Initially to then running and getting it and that allows help to they to go to third Which then allows him to score on what should have been a ground out But they bobbled that play anyway, but if he's at second, he doesn't score It's so these the mistakes like it even though that was one added second Altuve took advantage of it And then it's an extra run and that ends up being the winning run in this game And it it was incredible it was incredible base running by altuve. It was all that was on his mind He knew he was going to round second base hard And if it was going to round second base hard if soto fielded cleanly He was going to plant his foot and turn back to the base if soto bobbled it He was going to go to third and soto Tough break and it shows just like it's a really sick sport The ball just hugs the wall which it never does so the ball is like hiding under the padding And just rolls past soto. So yeah, altuve got in there easily I thought there was a chance that altuve was going to try to score for a second Uh, just because he he kept his speed going and he's a little bit of a sick pup um But yeah, dude Someone found brandon toddman's yearbook Did you see this?   Oh, yeah, I was convinced since the Yankees game I just told you I needed to see more than like three games Um, I mean they're clearly different. It's yeah, it's it's almost bizarre and yeah I mean this game there is different points where I think it would have been like three two And then I mean even that turner Uh swing in the last inning. I don't know if that goes out, but it it either hits the wall or goes out regular season Um, it's just it's it's one of the weirdest things and I I mean it it brings out disappointment in me and baseball because it's I can't believe that the commissioner office would stand there and say like oh, we have no idea what's going on Oh, okay. Cool. I I truly don't think they know I think it's bad that they're negligent. I think I I believe there's a chance they don't know but I believe that's pathetic Yeah, it's negligent that like they have no idea what It's your sport. It's the main product of the sport But maybe this will help them get it in control the rest of the way. It's the name of the sport baseball It's the baseball That's interesting I what comes first the name of the sport or the name of the item like a basketball Was named because they played with baskets and then a ball And baseball is because they played with bases and a ball So I don't think the sport's named after the ball the ball is named after the sport I think I I think I disagree Well, it's called I'd have to I'd have to write it out in words And I don't think it's what anyone wants to hear run the bases That's an offseason episode If hockey was named the same way, what would it be called? ice net No, it'd be puck something Ice puck No, it'd be puck first Baseball as well puck net or no No, it'd be be ice ice puck. Yeah, the ice puck I mean, that's what I call it anyway. So I don't really see the difference. Yeah, but okay. Well, okay Well, okay, anything else that we need to talk about About this game before we move on to previewing game four Oh, we could do more Fernando Rodney. I forgot Matt Adams was on the nationals. He's big Um, how about Ross gave him two innings and not looking bad for the nationals in a losing effort two innings of one He uh, he gave up a couple that were hit pretty hard But he he looked good and the the manager said he believed in them.  Yeah, that's fun. They didn't show replay of that.  I like that zero man has life flashed before his eyes It was very scary. I thought he was honestly hurt.  What happened the other thing that we should know I think he was I think he was being dramatic to try to get the Crowd in it if you look when he gets knocked down. He's on the ground He knocks his helmet off his head, but like very casually Like I think he was trying to spark the crowd a little bit and then when he saw the manager and the trainer coming out He's like, oh, I went too far.  He just he wasn't calling that inside the lefties outside Outside and down or inside and down to lefties outside and down the righties spot and It's a pretty important spot Yeah, like yeah Probably one of the most thrown two spots an eyeball an eyeball goes down to oh an account that he could have been up O2 and that was when the astros got some of their runs. I'm forgetting what a bat that was I forget, but it was when an eyeball asked him like Where is it? No, he said the best the best pitching line you could say is that after if an up misses two pitches You say okay, where was that one? Yeah, yeah, it was the top of the fifth inning And it was a one one count and he calls there's two strikes thrown in a row two in one three in one And i'm so tired of the Well, he has to frame the pitches better Uh If if that's your argument like that shouldn't matter And that's an art That's an argument for robot umps and an electronic strike zone If the umpire is dependent on how the catcher catches it and not where it crosses the plate Then we're in trouble here because like where we're relying on Something that we shouldn't be relying on But yeah, that that changes that count from three one, which he eventually walked him to a strikeout Yeah, so I don't think I was bad. I didn't think he specifically favored one team But I thought he was bad all around so yeah, it wasn't great. I don't know. I think the takeaway Uh so it over and down got shut down for the most part In the top three in the astros lineup springer out to vei brantley Um, they get on base. I mean two for four two for five two for four With two walks in there. So they basically get on base at a 500 clip this game And the astros bullpen shoved Yeah Well, that brings us actually nicely into the preview because tomorrow is a bullpen day For the astros but first let's Take a quick break All right, jake they used a lot of the bullpen more than they probably wanted to Like we said, cranky didn't get past the fourth inning They do have your kitty Or kitty or whatever as the starter tomorrow So they've announced that and he said, you know, we did use a lot of guys, but we're just trying to get wins They they they used a lot of arms, but uh james only gets one out Peacock only gets one out and peacock is going to be a big plan for tomorrow. I believe um Harris probably not really available tomorrow unless they need to Smith is available I don't know if he's going to be part of their best reliever I don't know. Smith is there as soon as they're He he pitched the most today basically is what I'm saying. We'll we'll Harris, but we'll see And then I mean it's a bullpen day. You you know, you know how we did this with the Yankees, Jim bullpen day You start counting backwards I mean they're going okay final three Osuna Osuna Harris Smith And they're saying how do we get there and they're hoping to get Three out of her kitty Yeah, he threw 45 pitches against the Yankees 2.2 innings So, yeah, you're trying to get three out of her kitty. You're trying to get potentially two out of peacock if he's right Um James will be out there again in the wild card and I'm they actually did a good job. They mentioned this on the broadcast Presley man You got to go out there and try to give them an inning Um, well, yeah, I wonder if they can do it without them I mean they can but I mean it's it's cut in corners I mean, he's he's been bad jake yeah In this I mean he played one He had one outing in this world series already If he comes in That's the natch chance. He's got a 1.244 ops against this post season and a 18 0.90 era like he's been Rather bad has he Pitched an inning yet. He hasn't pitched a clean inning He hasn't he hasn't He hasn't gotten three outs in one game yet Yeah, and he's appeared in seven games 54.1 regular season innings to the tune of a two three two era six sport Seven games. He hasn't gotten three outs yet in the game. So I mean, I don't think I think he's Exiled. I don't know if he's going to be part of the plan. I would say they go Uh, or kitty for three peacock for two That's five. You get james for one Smith well that's like their best case out of those two guys two Yeah, okay. So let's so let's do let's give them four four innings. Okay, we give Jose or kitty and peacock four innings. You got james for one That's five You got joe smith for one. That's six harris for one. That's seven. Oh soon enough for one. That's eight So yeah, maybe you do You do need Either you can go harris for two you can go harris and smith for 1.1 and 1.2 There's ways for that to do it harris can't go to again. He could go one, but he can't go 1.2 again Okay, did he go 1.2 tonight? yeah So, I don't know. I mean they have ron don out there Um, well, I don't think they've used them when he's up, but I mean if you need a low pressure 4th inning or something like that Um, and it it kind of I I think what's going to be interesting tomorrow is is kind of reverse of today We were wondering when they were going to pull cranky Uh through his turn in the lineup The astros kind of are flexible If if they need if they need to pull the pitcher for a hitter at any time, they'll do it.  Hey, it's just it's the bottom of the or the top of the Third inning top of the second inning top two and they've got bases loaded no outs You're gonna really send the pitcher up there. I don't think so no outs. I maybe would but but one out I think you definitely pitch it for him And that's uh And it's kind of the reverse so for the nationals It's wens corbin because some of these lower leverage pitchers we're talking about for houston That could be your best chance to score But you're at risk of pulling corbin too early. So that's going to be the game of chicken for washington Uh houston. Yeah, that's kind of a really fun thing.  I think the nats will win this a rod had a hot take. He said uh Whoever wins tomorrow wins the world series That was my take before the game you said that about this game No, I said that about tomorrow's game. I said I wanted to say it about this game But I said if houston won today tomorrow's game is the winner Oh, I thought you said it about today's game No, I said I wanted I thought you have I thought you have houston winning the world series now If they win tomorrow, okay Probably I agree with that. I don't care. I don't know I think nationals will win tomorrow. I don't think they lose two in a row at home Now corbin versus a bullpen day a lot of stuff doesn't add up Yeah, I don't I hey their bullpen day didn't add up in our head versus the Yankees and they they went out in one um I mean, it's kind of getting the clutch hits attacking early. We we've seen pretty much every playoff game Uh have a lot determined by that and Yeah, I don't know.  It's at noon noon game The old noon world series game on saturday.   Oh these aren't a value. I think people like them I think you don't like them. Do you like them? Yeah, they're talking to the manager during the game You don't get anything from them Uh, sometimes you do most of the time you don't but that's like any sports interview Yeah So like why need to do it when they're in between innings and they show it to you a little delayed I like I don't mind that making them do it while the game's being played is ridiculous Yeah, I guess that is fair. I the the delay between innings Shouldn't like that's that's fine That's fine.   Don't do that Anyway, Corbin versus Hyakiti and the bullpen day. I got the gnats winning tomorrow going up three to one Are you rooting astros just because that's more fun? I'm rooting like astros would be more fun I agree with that but I just feel oh, I don't know if that's necessarily true I think houston houston winning tomorrow might be less fun. Why is that? Because I mean you still got coal and verlander coming with their backs against the wall But isn't the astros winning tomorrow gives us a better chance of a game seven, which is the most fun I think I disagree I think the bad man are ready to go Like I I think depending tomorrow's result. It's either houston in six or gnats in seven So if the astros win you have gnats in seven No So if the gnats win I have gnats in seven Okay And if the astros win you think it's a six game series Yep, I think the bad men are ready to go. 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Amen, so keep your place there in Exodus chapter 28. So we're going through the garments of the high priest and we're looking at each of these garments and the detail that God gives us in this chapter and nothing in the Bible is on accident. So we're looking at the details of this. Why did God give all this detail? We're looking at how these garments apply to us in our Christian lives, how the Bible says in Revelation 1-6 that we are kings and priests. So how does this affect us? What does it all mean? There's no detail that God puts in the Bible that is there just for nothing. Okay, and we've seen that when we looked at the robe so far, we looked at the robe and all the details of the robe. We looked at the mitre last week, the headpiece. We saw that by the way in Revelation chapter 22 and we read that this morning. We saw that again Jesus seals people in their foreheads and that's where that plate was to go with the mitre. So the whole idea of the mitre was the plate, it was the plate where it was holiness unto the Lord. It was not a tall hat to bring glory upon yourself. It was to show that the priest belonged to the Lord and we see that with the mitre. So tonight we're going to look at the breastplate. We're going to look at the breastplate, look down at verse number 15 and remember now. The location on the body is super important for these garments. It means something with every garment. So let's read starting in verse 15 through verse 30 talks about this breastplate. Let's start reading at verse number 15 in your Bibles. The Bible says, And thou shalt make the breastplate, it's not just any breastplate though, look what it says already here. It says the breastplate of judgment with cunning work. That means it's to be, cunning means it's to be skillful. This isn't to be something that's slapped together. It's to be very specific, very nicely made. The breastplate of judgment with cunning work, after the work of the ephod, thou shalt make it of gold of blue of purple and of scarlet and of fine twine linen that shall make it. So notice what it's called right away. It's called the breastplate of judgment. So this is showing, number one, that the priest, this priest, and by the way, you're a priest, so whenever we're going through this series, just think of yourself. We are kings and priests. This is the priesthood of the believer that we're living as we've believed on the Lord Jesus Christ and we're saved tonight. So it's called the breastplate of judgment. So judgment is something that is going to be needed.  To say that anyone shouldn't have judgment. Who would?  How would you like to raise your children without having, isn't that what everyone's trying to instill in their children is to have good judgment? What judgment means is to discern, to be able to tell good from evil. Being able to tell what's good and what's bad. Should I go this way? Should I go that way? All I'm trying to do is raise children with good judgment. Yet everyone's saying, you know, look, it's a wicked person that's telling you not to judge anything. To have no judgment. All right, turn to Matthew chapter seven real quickly and I want to show you some King James Bible language now that I taught you how to read the King James Bible this morning in that two minute grammar lesson. Go to Matthew chapter seven. This is what people will use to say that you should never judge. Don't judge, don't judge. Go to Matthew chapter seven and look at verse number one. The Bible says, the Bible says in Matthew chapter seven, now just remember, you're yeas and you're use, okay? You know that everyone has to change the Bible and we have to have 170 different Bible versions because no one can understand the these and the vows of the King James Bible. The yeas and the use are plural, the these and the vows are singular. There you go. Now you can read the King James Bible, okay? Look at verse number one of Matthew chapter seven. Talking about judgment here real quickly before we get started. Judge not that ye be not judged. So who's Jesus talking about here? So the yeas, the yeas you will always see with the use. The yeas and the use go together. So one is the subject and one is the object, okay? Judge not that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged. And with what measure ye meet, it shall be measured to you again. Jesus here is talking about, if you have a red letter Bible, these are red letters. He's talking to a group of people, okay? He's talking to a group of people. So he's not saying never judge. He's saying judge not that ye be not judged. And then if we keep reading, remember the context as well, whenever somebody throws out some verse at you, just read a couple verses before and a couple verses after and get the context. It says for what judgment ye judge ye shall be judged.  It's not saying you have no judgment.  Then he gives an example. He gives a specific example now. Notice the switch in the yeas to the these and vows. Look what he says. And why behold us thou? Now he's talking to a single person. He's giving an example to a single person. He's saying behold us thou the moat that is in thy brother's eye, but consider us not the beam that is in thine own eye. So now we're talking about a single situation, okay?  It says thou hypocrite, don't ever judge. Is that what it says? No, it says thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the moat out of thy brother's eye. See the idea with judgment here is to get the moat out of your brother's eye. Is to help get that, I mean we're talking about sin here. We're talking about getting the sin out of someone's life or helping your brothers and sisters get something right in their life. You can't do that when you have that sin in your life.  Don't drink as they've watched you drink for 18 years. This is what this is saying. This is what this is talking about. It's like, it's just, it's not going to work. Kids are hypocrite detectors, by the way.  It's ridiculous. I mean, God's put that in their heart. They can just see hypocrites like that. And Jesus is warning us of that. But notice how he switches, just the language. Notice how he switches talking to the group to giving an individual example with somebody. That's the beauty of the detail of the King James Bible, okay? Just by changing that to a single word like you, it would be very confusing reading something like this. You would lose, you would lose that. You would lose, you would get it. There's a rounding error. You know, you round 12.137 to 12. The next person I give 12 to, they have no idea what those other numbers are. That information is gone. It's lost. Okay? So, look, but the Bible is saying here, you should have judgment. It's just saying, hey, clean your act up first, and then you can actually help somebody. It's very similar actually to James chapter two that people misunderstand. James chapter two is talking about being a prophet to somebody. How can I profit my brother?  It's about whether or not you're going to be a benefit to anybody. That's it. It's very similar, Matthew chapter seven to James chapter two in that sense. So, look, there's a need for judgment. That's why the breastplate is called the breastplate of judgment, okay? Go back to Exodus chapter 28. It's important, look, judgment is super important, especially for a leader. Especially for a leader.   How important good judgment is. Go to 1 Kings chapter three. This is Solomon's prayer. Solomon just, he's a young man.  He takes over the kingdom, and look at where Solomon's state of mind is right now. Look at 1 Kings chapter three, look at verse number five. First Kings chapter three, look at verse number five. Solomon has just taken over, David is gone, and Solomon is just taking over the kingdom. And look what the Bible says. It says, in Gibeon, the Lord appeared to Solomon in a dream by night. And God said, ask what I shall give thee. He says the same thing to us, by the way.  Just a side note. Look at verse number six. So God says to Solomon in a dream, ask me what you want, and I'll give it to you. And Solomon said, thou hast showed unto thy servant David my father great mercy, according as he walked before thee, who's he talking to? Is he talking to a group of people?  As he walked before thee in truth, and in righteousness, righteousness, by the way, and I want to, just righteousness here is talking about the work of exercising good judgment, okay? That's what righteousness would be. If you walk and exercise good judgment all the time, which we don't because we sin all the time, but righteousness would be, it could be characterized as exercising good judgment. So look what he says. You know, David, he's talking about his father. He said, he walked before thee in truth, and in righteousness, and in uprightness of what? Of heart. Don't forget that. With thee, with God, and thou has kept him for this great kindness, and thou has given him a son to sit on his throne, he's talking about himself, as it is this day.  I know not how to go out or come in. He said, I know nothing. Humbleness is a good place to start, always, when you're talking to the Lord. And thy servant is in the midst of thy people, which thou has chosen a great people that cannot be numbered nor counted for multitude. Now look at verse number nine. One of the greatest verses in the Bible, in my opinion. He says, what is he asked for? What is this kid asked for?  You can have anything. What would they say? Would they say this? Look at verse number nine. He says, give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to what? Why? Why does he need an understanding heart? To judge thy people. He's the king. He's a leader. He wants to have proper, righteous judgment. He wants to be able to exercise judgment correctly. That I may discern, what is judgment? Here it is. That I may discern between good and bad. For who is able to again judge this, thy so great a people? I'm sure, and that made God very happy. Look at the next verse. And the speech pleased the Lord that Solomon had asked this thing. And God said unto him, because thou had asked this thing, and asked not for thyself a long life, neither has asked riches for thyself, nor has asked for the life of thine enemies, but has asked for thyself an understanding to discern judgment again. Behold, I have done according to thy words, lo, I have given thee a wise and understanding heart. So here's what you need to understand. Wisdom and understanding equals proper judgment. So that's what God gave him so he would have proper judgment. And then that's why, this is where Solomon became so wise and so smart that people come from all over the world to give him gold and to listen to his proverbs so that there was none like thee before thee, neither after thee shall any arise like unto thee. All right, so look. Wisdom and understanding equals judging properly. And we see that it all comes from where? Go to Exodus chapter 28, go back there. Go back to Exodus chapter 28. Understanding and wise judgment is what the priest needs. Now where does the garment go? Let's look at the place that the garment goes because that's very important. Exodus chapter 28 and verse number 6, let's go through. Let's look at verse number 16, gives us some detail about it. It says, four square, it shall be being doubled.  All this is saying is that a span, they say a span is from your pinky to your thumb. They say about nine inches. So that's how big it is. And it says it's four square. Four square in the King James Bible means that it's a square. It means the Bible kind of defines itself here. It says four square shall be being doubled.  So it's the same wide as it is tall, nine inches. So it's a nine inch square. Now look at verse number 17. Verse number 17, the Bible says, and thou shalt set in the settings of stones, even four rows of stones. The first row shall be a sardis, a topaz, a carbuncle. This shall be the first row. The second row should be an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond. The third row, a ligar, an agate, and an amethyst. The fourth row, a barrel, an onyx, and a jasper. They shall be set in gold in there in closings. When it says gold ouches, ouches of gold, what that means is that's the insetting where the stones sit. So an ouch is the gold setting, as you would. If you have a diamond ring, the ouch would be where the diamond sits down in the ring. And the stones shall be with the name of the children of Israel, 12, according to their names, like the engravings of a signet. Everyone with his name shall be according to the 12 tribes. Now I'd study the stones for you, but we don't know which name went on which stone. So we'll just have to go use the sermon series that we had on the 12 tribes of Israel for that, because we don't know which stone goes with each tribe. But go to verse number 22. But the point is, is that the names of the 12 tribes sit on the breastplate. That's the important thing that you need to know. So the breastplate of judgment, this shows you what is the judgment towards? What is his judgment to be used for? His judgment is to be used for the 12 tribes. His judgment is to be used for the nation. We're talking about the high priest here. Look at verse 22. And now shall make upon the breastplate chains at the end of the reathen work of pure gold. And shall make upon the breastrate two rings of gold, and shall put the two rings on the two ends of the breastplate. So there's rings on each side, and it's connected here, and it's connected down to his girdle. And now shall put the two reathen chains of gold in the two rings, which are on the ends of the breastplate. In the other two ends, the two reathen chains shall now fashion in the two ouches and put them on the shoulder pieces of the ephod before it. Those are the top chains. And now shall make two rings of gold, and shall put them upon the two ends of the breastplate in the border thereof, which is in the side of the ephod inward. And the other two rings of gold shall now make and put them on the two sides of the ephod underneath, toward the forefront thereof, over against the other coupling thereof, above the curious girdle of the ephod. And they shall bind the breastplate by the rings thereof unto the rings of the ephod, with a lace of blue. This is what connects the rings, that they may be above the curious girdle of the ephod, in that the breastplate be not loosed from the ephod. It's just showing you how it's to be attached to his location. Now look at verse number 29. This is the important part. Verse number 29, it says, And Aaron shall bear the names of the children of Israel in the breastplate of judgment where, upon his heart, when he goeth into the holy place for a memorial before the Lord, continually. Remember Solomon, what did he ask for? He asked for this wise and understanding, what? A wise and understanding heart. And here the breastplate of judgment is to be over the priest, what? Over his heart, okay? The Bible talks about the heart as the place. Actually, let's look at a few verses. We could look at 100 verses on the heart, but let's look at the verses on the heart. The Bible verses on the heart are super important in the Christian life. Turn to Jeremiah chapter 17. The heart, and look, it's a location in the body. It's a part of the body that is used for a specific picture in the Bible. And I wanna show that to you tonight. Look at Jeremiah chapter 17 and verse number nine. So Solomon asked for a wise and understanding heart to exercise judgment, to properly judge. The priest wears the breastplate of judgment over his heart that has the names of all the tribes of Israel on these stones. Look at Jeremiah 17 and verse number nine. The Bible says a lot about the heart. So let's look at what it's talking about here. The Bible says Jeremiah 17.9. It says, the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Who can know it? Now look, what is that saying? Is the heart a good thing or is the heart a bad thing? Okay, what is the heart? When the Bible talks about the heart, let's look at what it is first. Turn to Romans chapter 10 and verse number nine. Look, the Bible here in Jeremiah 17.9 is saying that Satan, the great deceiver, is gonna come after this thing. He's gonna come after your heart. Why? Go to Romans 10 and chapter number nine. Romans 10 and chapter number nine. If you're a soul winner, this is a very popular verse. I'm sure you have it memorized. But look at Romans 10.9. And let's look at Romans 10.9 and Romans 10.10. I always like to take soul winning verses. And every now and then, you kind of repeat these verses so many times. And you say these verses so many times. I always like to go and read. You read the verses before and after every now and then to get the context of these soul winning verses. But look at verse number nine. So we're talking about the heart and why Satan tries to deceive our heart and why the heart can be so deceitful. Look at verse number nine. It says that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and what? What's the important thing of salvation here? What's the important thing of salvation? It says, and shall believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. To be saved, you must believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and that belief comes from where? It comes from your heart. Okay, it comes from your heart. Look at verse number 10. Four, now it's gonna tell us what the heart actually is. Okay, what it's used for. Okay, for with the heart, man believeth unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. The Bible here is telling us is that the heart is the tool that your body uses to believe things. It's the philosophical origin of your belief. Is what the Bible is saying here. What the Bible is talking about when it says the heart, the heart, the heart. It's where your beliefs come from. Is what Romans 10, 10 just told us. This is why Satan comes after your heart. This is why Satan attacks your heart. Go to Matthew chapter five, I'm gonna read for you Jeremiah chapter 17 and verse number 10. The very next verse of the one we just read. You go to Matthew chapter five. In Jeremiah 17, 10, the Bible says, I the Lord, search the heart. I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways and according to the fruit of his doings. So look, only God sees your heart. We go out and we give the gospel to people and they'll tell us, yes, I believe that. And then we'll help them, you know, we'll help them confess their beliefs to the Lord and we will do that with them. But ultimately we don't see the heart. Ultimately I have no idea what anybody in this room believes. I mean, I'm taking you at your word, you know, that we're all believing the same things that we've all trusted on Jesus Christ but ultimately it's only God that can search the heart. It's only God that knows what you believe.  You are saved by belief alone. And this is just my opinion. But I believe that the reason God made it that way is because your belief is the only thing that is uniquely yours. No matter what I do, I can't make you believe anything. Throughout history, men have done terrible things. They've arrested people and tortured people. And in the martyr's mirror that we talked about this morning they even made people sign confessions but they can't make you believe anything. They can make you sign something. They can make you say something but they can't make you believe anything. That's yours and that's why I believe God has it by belief. Look at Matthew chapter five and verse number eight. So here's what we want our heart to be. Jesus says, he says Matthew five eight. He says, blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God. Turn to Hebrews chapter four. Turn to Hebrews chapter four. So here's the idea folks is the heart is where your belief comes from. The heart is where that righteous judgment needs to come from as well and that's why that place sits on the heart of the priest. Look at Hebrews chapter four and verse number 12. You say, how could you possibly get somebody to change what they believe? How could you get somebody to change what they believe? You say, I have some people in my life that I love they're not saved and I would like them to be saved. How in the world could I get them to change the belief in their heart? Well, the Bible says that there's only one thing that has power over the heart. Look at Hebrews chapter four. Look at verse number 12. The Bible says this. It says, this is why by the way, this is why the word of God being pure is so important. This is why that the NIV being this corrupted version is something that we don't wanna have anything to do with or any of these other versions. And it's important as the front of your bulletin says in Psalm 12, six, that the words of the Lord be pure words. Why? Because they have power, that's why. What kind of power? I'm talking actual physical power to do what? To change the heart. You say, why? How do you know that? Well, let's read the Bible. Look at verse 12. For the word of God is quick. You know what that means? You know what quick means? It means it can make things alive. How many things that you know can make things alive? How about this? Nothing. Nothing can make things alive. The most technology on planet earth that they have today, they can't make one cell alive. But the Bible says that the word of God can. The word of God is quick.   Why? Because the word of God is powerful, that's why. The word of God created the world. The word got, let there be heat.  That's power. Hey, that's physical power. I mean, to actually speak things into existence is actual physical power. Let's keep reading. The word of God is quick. And what? And powerful. And sharper than any two-edged sword. Piercing. Even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit. Look, it can get into someone's spirit and into their soul. And physically, look at this. And to the, of the joints and the marrow. And as a discerner, uh-oh. Of the thoughts and intents of what? Heart. It's a discerner. You know what that means? It means it's a detector. It means it's a detector. The word of God will detect a bad heart or a good heart. Is what the Bible is saying here. The Bible will discern between good and evil. You know why? You know why? You know one that you get in a Bible preaching church that preaches like everything. Like everything in the Bible. Like if you're fairly new here, you're gonna hear the whole thing here.  But look, if it's in the Bible, it's gonna be preached here. But the point is, is that if you have a bad heart, it's gonna clash with the Bible. It's gonna, if you have a bad heart, it's just gonna like, it's just not gonna fit. It's gonna, it's gonna, but that's the idea of the Bible. It's supposed to, it's supposed to hit you and discern your heart so you change. You fix your heart. You know, that's why you hear sin preached and you hear just hard preaching on sin and you're in that sin and you're like, ah! It hits you. But hey, that's the idea, because the Bible is a discerner. It's a discerner. Yes, the gospel, yes, salvation. But hey, we're trying to live a Christian life here too. And it's here to help you discern and judge your Christian life as you walk forward. That's why some liberal church that doesn't tell you what the Bible says isn't doing you any favors. They're actually hurting you. They don't care about you.  Those people don't love you.  And the worst, the worst is where the pastor might actually be saved and he's not telling the people how to get to heaven. It's crazy to even think about it, but it happens all the time. So the Bible here is saying is that the word the word of God can change, can fix, can affect the heart. It has the power to do that. It's the only thing. That's why when we go out, what do we do? We don't go out with our own words.  We use the word of God. Yes, and we explain, but we use God's word because it's God's word that has power, not ours. It's God's word. Go to Proverbs chapter four. See say, you know, give me a break preacher, I'm saved. Leave me alone. Go to Proverbs chapter four. Look folks, this idea of the heart. I'm telling you, if I could preach anything until I was blue in the face, it would be this. This is the Christian problem right here is keeping your heart clear. Look at Proverbs chapter four and verse 23. I mean, the Bible tells us this. Don't take my word for it. The Bible says in Proverbs 4, 23, it says, keep thy heart with all diligence. You know what diligence means? Diligence means persistence over time. If you're a diligent worker, it doesn't mean you work hard on Monday.  That's diligence. The Bible is saying you must be diligent about your heart.   They start out and they're like, and then it's like pop. They say the average Christian life lasts about two or three years. That's what they say. You talk to a pastor who's pastor for 20 years, he'll tell you the same thing. People that just burn out why? Because they don't keep their heart. That's why.  He can't take away your salvation. You know what he can do? He can take your heart away. He can deceive your heart. And he can get you to care about other things. He can drag you into sin. You know, a lot of people think like, you know what, I'm just gonna, I'm saved, maybe I'll just, I'm just gonna go into some sin for a while. The problem is your heart. That's the problem. Sin will steal your heart. It'll take it away. And look, that's why people, that's why people, they're like, hey, I'm gonna go into a little bit of sin. They get into sin, it steals their heart, and they never come back. It's a terrible thing. You have to keep your heart with diligence. This is the Christian problem right here. Again and again and again, it is the same thing. You ask any Bible preaching Baptist pastor and he'll tell you the same thing. Turn back to Exodus chapter 28. Protect your heart. Actually, turn to First Kings chapter 11. Let's beat this one to death. Turn to First Kings chapter 11. We talked about marriage this morning. Did we not? Did we talk about marriage this morning? Look, you wanna talk about keeping your heart, but look, the Bible says in Deuteronomy 17 that a king is to not multiply wives. Okay? A king is not to multiply wives. Let's look at Solomon. We were just studying Solomon, right? Look at First Kings chapter 11. Let's talk about this idea of your heart for just a couple more minutes. Go to chapter 11. So we saw Solomon when he was young. He was humble. He asked the Lord for wise and understanding heart. Look at verse number one of First Kings chapter 11. Look what happened to him. But King Solomon loved many strange women together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, and Hittites of the nations concerning what the Lord said under the children of Israel. He should not go in unto them, neither shall they come in unto you. For surely they will what? They will turn away your heart after their gods. Solomon claved to these in love. And he had 700 wives, princesses, and 300 concubines. And his wives, what? They turned away his heart. First of all, you will find no man in the Bible that has multiple wives that had a good marriage. I mean, doesn't that make sense? You will find no Solomon, he actually was married to Pharaoh's daughter first and read the book of Song of Solomon. It's just this great love story between him and his first wife. And then he goes and he does this. And at the end of his life, he says I've not found one woman that I could have a good life with, basically. You will not find one man who married multiple wives in the Bible who had a great loving relationship with one of his wives. It was just chaos. It was just chaos in their homes, in their households, chaos. I mean, it's like you read some of the patriarchs and it's like you're reading a soap opera. It's just chaos, jealousy, favoritism. But the main problem God said was this. It said these wives will turn away your heart from me. He says, they'll turn your heart away from the Lord. It says in his heart was not perfect with the Lord his God. As was the heart of David his father. For Solomon, then it talks about how he went off after all these false gods and all this type of stuff. Just because of his wives. They turned away his heart from the Lord. Look folks, this could be anything. This could be money. This could be your career. This could be anything of this world that is thorns that chokes your spiritual life because it's not just I'm gonna go and I'm just gonna, hey, I'm just gonna go make money for five years.   No, your heart will be gone and you'll never come back. That's what will happen. Satan is after your heart and guess what? He's gonna steal it where he knows he can steal it with you. He knows where your cracks are.  So you need to think about that. What can get me out of the Christian life? What do I care about more than the Lord? That's what's gonna come after you. Especially, look, especially as you get effective in the Christian life. You get effective in the Christian life. You start making a difference for the kingdom of God on earth, Satan's coming after you and he knows where to poke. He knows where to pull on your heart. It's a serious thing. Please, I mean, please listen to me. It's a serious thing. And I mean, anybody that's been in this Christian life for a while has known people that have fallen to this. Look, they're as saved as you and me, but they've been taken out of the fight. They've been taken out of the fight. You have to guard your heart, folks. Turn back to Exodus chapter 28. So the breastplate of judgment is upon the priest's heart. We see that he is to execute good judgment towards the nation. Look at Exodus chapter 28. In verse number 30. So that's his idea.  Imagine if you had a leader over a nation whose heart was turned.  Imagine if we had a leader over a nation that had no judgment. Welcome to America. But I mean, this is what you get. Imagine if we had a godly leader of a nation, of our nation. You know what kind of difference that would make? Just imagine. I mean, we haven't had that for a long time. Don't get me wrong. I don't want to get into that, but look at verse 30. And thou shalt put the breastplate of judgment, I'm sorry, thou shalt put in the breastplate of judgment the Urim and the Thurum, Thumen. And they shall be upon Aaron's heart when he goeth before the Lord and Aaron shall bear judgment of the children of Israel upon his heart before the Lord continually. You're like, what in the world? Urim and Thumen, what is that? All right, now look. I don't read Bible commentary, okay? I don't read Bible commentary, and this is a perfect reason why. You can go read all kinds of crazy stuff on what these two things are. Let's just look at what the Bible says. And look, sometimes you just need to be okay with like, you know, God didn't tell us a lot on this. God just didn't, you know, if God didn't give us a lot of detail, it means that it's just not that important. We just don't need to know everything, all right? But turn to Leviticus chapter eight. First of all, the words mean light and perfection, okay? So there's some type of objects that go inside the breastplate, okay? Let's look at, I mean, the Bible does talk about them. And I think we can kind of infer, and I'll show you my theory, all right? We think we can kind of infer what these things are. But turn to Leviticus chapter eight. Look at verse number eight. Leviticus eight, verse number eight. Remember, the priest has exercised what? That it goes on his heart, and he's to exercise judgment. He's to exercise judgment on the people, okay? Which means he's to be able to discern good and evil. If somebody comes to him, he's to be able to decide things. If, you know, two people come with a conflict or whatever, or, you know, just direction of the nation in general, he's to be able to tell good from evil. Look at verse number eight. It says he put the breastplate upon him. He also put in the breastplate, the irum and the thumen. Now turn to Numbers chapter 27. Numbers chapter 27. It talks about it there as well. In Numbers chapter 27, look at verse 21. Numbers chapter 27, verse 21. It says that he shall stand before Eleazar the priest, who shall ask counsel for him after the judgment of irum before the Lord. So now we see that this irum has something to do with the actual judgment or the decision itself, okay? And his word shall they go out and at his word shall they come in, both he and the children of Israel with him and even all the congregation. Turn to Deuteronomy chapter 33. Let me show you one more example where this is at in the Bible, okay? Deuteronomy 33 and look at verse number eight. Deuteronomy 33 and verse number eight. The Bible says in Deuteronomy 33, eight, it says, and of Levi he said, let thy thumen and thy irum be with the holy one, whom thoust did prove at Massa and whom thoust did strive at the waters of Maraba, who said unto his father and to his mother, I have not seen him, neither did he acknowledge his brethren, nor knew his own children, for they have observed thy word and kept thy covenant. So here we see this irum and thurum is with Levi, it's with the priesthood here, okay? So look, we know that just from these examples that they have something to do with the judgment, okay? They have something to do with the priest executing judgment and they're directly related to keeping God's word as we see in Deuteronomy 33. Now let me just give you some possible examples here, all right? Here's kind of an example that I think is possible. This is my opinion, okay? This is my opinion. This isn't decisive from the Bible, but turn to Joshua chapter seven. So in Joshua chapter seven, we've just, in Joshua chapter six, they've just invaded Jericho, the walls came down and what were they supposed to do? They were supposed to destroy every living thing, okay? They were supposed to destroy man, woman, child, all the cattle, everything. They were to take nothing, okay? Look at Joshua chapter seven and look at verse number 14, okay? So the problem was in Joshua chapter seven that after they stacked Jerusalem, or not Jerusalem, Jericho in Joshua chapter six, somebody took something, okay?  So there was somebody, and then they went to AI, so they were just like crushing everybody, right? The walls came down, God's fighting for them. All of a sudden they go up against AI and they lose and they're like, what's going on? And God tells them like, look, somebody took something. This is why, okay? Look at verse number 14. So here God gives instruction to how they are supposed to find the person that took something, okay? Look at verse number 14. It says, in the morning, therefore, you shall be brought according to your tribes and it shall be that the tribe which, now underline these words in your Bible, if you don't mind writing in your Bible, I mean, if not, don't, but it says that the tribe which, what does it say? It says, the Lord taketh. Shall come according to the families thereof and the family which the Lord shall take shall come by households and the household which the Lord shall take shall come man by man. So here the Bible is telling us that, I mean, look, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of people, maybe millions of people here, okay? The nation of Israel at this point. And the Bible is saying, bring the tribes. Bring the tribes. It says, bring the families. And then it says, bring the households, okay? But it says that the Lord is gonna choose a tribe. The Lord is gonna choose a family and the Lord is gonna choose a household.  It's like the Lord is gonna make some decisions here. You're like, okay, how's he gonna do that? Initial B, he that is taken with the accursed things shall be burnt with fire. But if you look further, if you look further and you look at verse number 18, now it actually happens. Joshua, it says in verse, look at 17. It says, and he brought the family of Judah. No, look what he says. And Joshua rose up early in the morning, verse 16, and brought Israel by their tribes and the tribe of Judah was taken. That means the tribe of Judah was chosen by the Lord. So they didn't go through all 12 tribes. It's just Judah was chosen, just like we saw in verse 14 and 15. And he brought the family of Judah and he took the family of the Zehrites. See, it's being narrowed down here because certain ones are being chosen here. And he brought the family of Zehrites man by man and Zabdi was taken. And he brought his household. So now we see a man's house was taken, man by man and Achan.  Now we know by was taken in verse 14 and 15 that the Lord took him. So here's my theory here. Is that this Urim and Theurim is some way for God to communicate his choices, his judgment to the priest? That's my theory because the Lord is choosing people here. The Lord is choosing Judah, he's choosing the family here, he's choosing the household and then finally he chooses Achan. Otherwise they would have had to search like hundreds of thousands of people. So God is helping them out. I think that this Urim and Thumen is used in this type of scenario. It's just some way, because look, here's the thing. How is the priest supposed to know as a man if two people come to him and one person's saying he stole $20 from me and the other person's like, no I didn't, because here I had to break it to you folks. People will lie to your face. They'll lie straight to your face. So I mean, a man needs to be able to have some judgment. I think it's just some way God used to, you know, I mean, another example is in Leviticus chapter 16 where he cast lots on top of the two goats and God chooses, I think maybe that was the Urim and the Thumen. You know, that was the lots that the priest, that Aaron, or the high priest used to let God make the decision. Okay, so it was some way where God made decisions and communicated that to the high priest. That's all that to say that, okay? So look, what about today? You say, I wanna have good judgment. What about today? We'll turn to Deuteronomy chapter 17. So let me give you some, let me give you some, you're like, we don't have these stones or these rocks or whatever these things are to help God communicate good judgment to us. We do have the Bible though, okay? We do have the Bible. So let's look at what the Bible says and how we can have good judgment in situations that might seem difficult. You say, I wanna have good judgment, but you know, sometimes people don't say things that are true and all this. Deuteronomy 19, I'm sorry. Deuteronomy 19, look at verse number 15 of Deuteronomy chapter 19. So the Bible gives us some philosophies to follow in our lives, to have good judgment when it comes to difficult situations, especially concerning people, okay? The Bible says in Deuteronomy 19, 15, it says, one witness shall not rise up again against a man for iniquity or for any sin in any sin that he sinned. Then it says, at the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses shall the matter be established. So the Bible here is just kind of giving us some advice that if somebody is gonna be accused of something, there better be more than two people that have seen the sin, okay? We're not talking about somebody that saw a sin and then went and told a bunch of people. That's not like 10 witnesses, okay? The person that saw the iniquity is a witness, all right? And there needs to be more than two, the Bible says. The mouth of two or three. Turn to Matthew chapter 18. I mean, 2nd Corinthians chapter 13 says the same thing. You turn to Matthew 18. And 2nd Corinthians 13, Paul says, it is the third time I'm coming to you in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. Same thing in 1 Timothy chapter five, talking about an accusation against an elder. You know, there better be two or three witnesses there, okay? So this begs the question of, even in Matthew 18, 16, you're gonna keep your place in Matthew 18 because we're gonna go further into that. But it says, but if you will not hear the, talking about a conflict amongst brothers, then take with thee one or two more. Just that power, that power that, now we're not talking about iniquity, we're talking about just like, so one or two more can hear the matter, okay? Can hear the matter between these two that have a conflict, okay? So the question becomes, like what if it's word against word? What if you end up in a situation like you parents, you're gonna end up in a situation like this, I guarantee it.  And the other kid's gonna be like, no I didn't, and he's like, what do you do? All right, and then there's like blood coming out of the nose of the one or whatever. But I mean, you're gonna have to pass judgment in situations like that. But notice Matthew chapter 18, it just says that every word be established. It says, those aren't necessarily witnesses to iniquity, they're just to hear the matter and help with judgment. But the point is, the point is if it's somebody talking about using somebody of iniquity and there's only one person, you just can't pass sentence. I mean, that's why our justice system is the way it is where there's, you know, 12 jurors.  A lot of these things come from the Bible, all right? But in cases, like in cases where it's just case against case, like two brothers, I mean, if there's a conflict of somebody in the church and, you know, brother so-and-so says, you know, he stole my car and brother so-and-so says, no, I didn't.  Look at Matthew 18, let's just look at it real quick. Because this is super important that you get this right as well. So I mean, there's no problem of having a conflict, it's just you have to go through the proper channels and do the biblical thing to resolve it. Especially in the Christian life, in the church. Look at Matthew chapter 18 and look at verse number 15. It says, moreover, if that brother shall trespass against thee, it says, go and tell him. Does go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone? If he shall hear thee, thou hast gained a brother. So most of the time, look, 99% of the time, you're gonna go up to your brother and be like, hey, you know, when we were talking the other day and you said that thing, I was really offended. He's gonna be like, oh, I'm sorry, and that's it. That's the end of it. All right, but in a case where he's like, I don't think of anything wrong and you wanna push it further, the Bible says, suffer yourself to be defrauded. That's always an option too. But go talk to the pastor. Go talk to the pastor, sit down and we'll talk through the situation. And ultimately, it can go to the point where somebody that's just done something horribly wrong that's not gonna admit fault, they could be actually put out of the church for it. The Bible does say here, okay? But the point is that Matthew 18 is always an option if it's just word against word, okay? Just go to your brother and tell him what your conflicts are. But you can't pass sentence on somebody for iniquity with just one witness, okay? So, judgment. This is what this is talking about here, this breastplate of judgment. It's not, and it's not just about people. It's not just about conflicts with people. The importance of good judgment is all about just making choices in your life. The importance of good judgment is directly connected with your heart.  I hope you see the connection here.  Look, you'll see people get backslidden in the Christian life and you'll look at what they're doing and you'll just be like, what in the world is going on there? And it's because their heart's been deceived and their judgment is gone. That's what happens, okay? That's why there's so many passages in the Bible about your heart. And that's why the breastplate of judgment goes on the priest's heart.     You ladies, you have a priesthood of the believer as well. It's not just for guys. It's a spiritual priesthood we're talking about here. And the judgment is connected to your heart. So guard your heart. Watch what you're doing.  Watch what you're looking at. Watch what you're reading. Watch what you're getting involved in because it's not something that you can just go and get involved in for a while. It's gonna steal your heart away. That's why the breastplate goes on the priest's heart. Let's bow our heads and have a word of prayer.


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It's been a good first day of official mini-camp, but we've been grinding our OTAs. Have you picked up any tweaks of hints of changes under the second year with Arthur Smith? In regards to hints, in regards to- In the way things are being run and practice, et cetera. I can say it's more smooth, you know? And you got guys who've been in the program now and understand expectations and bringing in guys who want to impress the coaching staff, impress the teammates. So it's been smooth. I feel like the camaraderie has been very, very well and closer than any team. I feel like I've been apart since I've been here, just the way guys vibe and working together. And it's just a healthy, healthy competition. At the end of the day, it's going to lead to some good things for us. You said you're enjoying getting to learn some things about your teammates. Anyone stand out to you in particular? Man, it's been so many. It's been so many to keep up with. And I've been having to learn a lot of new names, but after doing some research, looking on some guys up and knowing we've got some real ballers, you know, got some guys who want to hit the field and make a name for themselves and continue to advance their career, whatever that may lead them. But it's like everybody pour it in and believes what we got going on here in Atlanta. That's why everybody here. How does that chemistry come so easily?  So how does it come so easily with the new team?  I'm sorry, I just feel like it's just been it's just been so effortless, you know? And, you know, we welcome guys to open arms.  Guys want to be here. They want to compete. And that's what we want. I don't know if it cooled it off now.  But man, it's been a super hot couple of days. We had to cut my youth camp short on Saturday for all the little kids. The babies was falling out on me. They was mad at me because I gave them black shirts for camp. I had to make up some story. I said, I said, I know y'all going to get something to eat after this. I ain't want y'all to wear the white and get food on your shirt. Mess up your pictures. But no, I did them dirty. So I appreciate everybody coming out to the camp. Now, it's been a hard couple of days, but this is what it's about.  I mean, being like a Georgia guy, the heat.  And but every year, you know, you got to always ramp up, ramp up to it. I feel like whether you live in the heat or the cold, people can say you get used to it, but you always got to prep for it, man. You know, you always got to get used to it. How many kids you get out there? We had about 350 in the youth camp. And then we had 12 high schools for for the 707 and a big man challenge. I'm going to put up some footage here in the next couple of days. So get guys to check it out. So we did it here and just get straight to it.  So, you know, kind of cool it off for about the first half of our, we'll say almost second practice or whatever it may be. But definitely got hotter towards the end. So no, but, you know, I was proud of our team come out here after a little adversity, having to go back in the locker room for an hour, come back out here and continue to work. Where do you feel like you're physically and mentally at this point? Yeah, physically, you know, I feel like I can always just keep getting into shape. Obviously, you know, this past six months have been, you know, training for the 40 training for kind of skill drills. Now it's about getting into football shape. So I can still get into better shape, you know, mentally. You know, I think I'm right where I need to be. I can always continue to get better at that, though, and continue to be the best person, the best teammate I can be.  What does that kind of look like from a day to day standpoint for you to? Yeah, so now we kind of, you know, put in what we're going to call, you know, kind of a check system with our offense. So we want plays designed within plays.  And so, you know, we're able to check into a play that we like rather than what we had on. So, you know, for us, this quarterback is mentally it's adding new checks in every single day and then coming out here and repping them against the looks that we want to see. Charles London was also talking about this whole idea of wanting to make sure you and Marcus can save yourself in the moment, in the heat of a game. What does that mean for you when you're kind of looking at what you do?  That's not, you know, going out there, taking too many hits, obviously being smart with the ball, both when you have it in your hands and then when you go to throw it. But then just being able to survive to the next play live to see another down, that's what we like to say. So that's what that would mean to me.  Oh, play calls 100 percent. That's the biggest thing. But just going home at night, getting on your iPhone, your voice recorder and just sitting there and reading the script into the voice recorder and then putting your AirPods back in and then reading it back out. Kind of like how the helmet is to us. So just being able to pick them up and spit them out. That's kind of been my challenge and, you know, where I've needed to grow the most throughout this entire thing. But I feel like I've done a great job of that. I feel like I've done a great job of preparing and learning and understanding and offense. So the terminology and the verb, which comes out a lot easier. Who taught you how to go through play calls like that? Just a whole bunch of people. I mean, throughout this entire process, especially at the quarterback position, that's, you know, kind of just a certain way that they tell us to do it. So from guys here, Marcus, you know, Coach Rags, all the way to Palmer, my quarterback trainer, to Coach Gino Godulli, my quarterback coach at UC. So I mean, there's been a lot of people. But you've been like working with Kyle Pitts and Drake London out there. Yeah, it definitely makes my job a lot easier.  Like we say, let our playmakers go make plays and that's what they do best. Yeah, as a tight end, he's a great body and a great athlete. You know, Coach Rags always jokes to kind of all three of us of Marcus, myself and Felipe, that he's the best athlete out of all of us. Where me and Marcus kind of chuckle. But no, you know, he's a great addition to our team, not only in the quarterback room, but in the tight end room.  I'm straight three out of many camp, between camp and in three seasons, everybody every week is going to ask, who's starting, who's starting as a player and how do you sort of process and approach the situation? Yeah, I mean, I take it day by day. You know, I'm not coming out here trying to, you know, win the starting job, you know, right here right now. My job is to come out here and to make myself better to then make Marcus better, to then make the team better. And so that's just my job, my role right now is to kind of, you know, bring everyone else with me, bring the rookies with me, bring all the guys around me with me so that we can become better. Is it unusual or does it feel weird to come when you go from college to pro when you when you started in college to suddenly sort of have to refurb yourself to see if you're good enough to start? No, I mean, that's just the that's just the way of the game, that's just how it goes. You know, we're coming into this league as a competitive league, not only, you know, at our position, but, you know, all the teams in general. So, you know, at the end of the day, whatever your job it is, whatever your role is, you're competing somewhere or another. Yeah, just the way he approaches the game, you know, meeting with them in the morning, just going over the script, kind of how he talked about learning the plays and everything to the simple way of how he takes care of his body, what he does, not only on the field, obviously, we're both out here on the field. So picking up little tips and tricks of, you know, how we how we manage his coverage is and and different things like that.  Excuse me. And then, you know, a kind of funny thing. We had dinner with Olimon the other night and, you know, I'm sitting at the table with Jake Matthews and nah, mom, I'm going to pass on that one. We're good. No, go ahead. You can't do that. I can't.  No, we're good. But Drake had also mentioned that this rookie class really has a great connection. He said that Coach Smith's a good job drafting you guys. So why do you have a good connection? What it means? I mean, we just all wanted to come in here and work. And, you know, that's I'm sure what every rookie class would say. But, you know, this rookie class, you know, we're something that we want to come in here and we really want to change the way that things have gone the past couple of years and try to turn them into something better. You know, that's what that's what Coach Smith is preach since we got here. And that's what we'll continue to preach. So just bringing not only myself, but like I said earlier, all the rookies around me to give the level we need to be to make the team most successful. I'm sure expectations you came in. That's like one thing that maybe you look at, like, wow, I was surprised that you did not think that was going to be that hard. That was going to be that different. I would just, yeah, I would just say the overall knowledge of the offense.  I thought I was going to come in and kind of struggle a little bit. You know, we're almost all the way through all of our installs. And like I said, putting in all those checks, I got a good grasp of it. So that kind of surprised me, honestly, you know, I'm not saying I wouldn't have picked it up, but, you know, I definitely thought it would have took maybe just a little bit longer, a couple of extra more days. But I've been able to pick up on it pretty smoothly. What did you realize that maybe I'm getting this a little bit faster than I thought? About last week. What was it that happened last week that told you that? I mean, it was just the flow of it. Like I said, the way it's coming out of, you know, my sentences in the huddle to the command that I had at the line of scrimmage to see in the defense, but also seeing the offense, you know, everything just came to me. That's the number they gave me. No, they asked me to choose between four, 13 and 16. And I know Lorenzo Carter, he had nine. And so I, you know, sent him a DM after the draft to try to get that. But he had had that locked up. So, you know, I went with four. So, you know, I'm a rock for it for now.  You know, I'm a frugal guy. So, you know, I think the number change can wait. Did he throw a number out to you at four? No, so yeah, he didn't throw a number out.  I'm just going to ask for it out. You know, he shot that down real quick. But, you know, I knew that there was a number. Didn't know what that number was. So, I just wasn't even going to go for it. Obviously, you and Marcus are competing with one another. But what do you feel like your relationship is like right now? Oh, yeah, he's like a big bro to me.  You know, just taught me some of the little nuances of, you know, not only becoming an NFL quarterback, a quarterback, but just NFL player in general. And so, you know, I'm excited to keep learning from and keep growing. Still got to get on the golf course to see what that game's like. So, it'll be fun. Speaking of relationships, how have you gone about building relationships with the wide receivers and competitors in general? Yeah, just being myself, you know, building relationships, obviously, with the amount here on the field, but just in the locker room, too. You know, getting with them in meetings and then just in the locker room, just grooving around with them, getting to know them individually, personally. That's kind of my leadership style. That's the way I go about it. And I feel like that's the best way for me. So, golf course, it's going to be better. I don't know, Marcus has been playing a lot. I've been pretty devoted into this playbook right now. That's what I'm going to use in my excuse now. But he's got out a couple more times. So I don't know if we'll get to get out this season. But hopefully, you know, after we take care of our work this season, we can head out. Yeah, I mean, like I said, that would be one day it's going to bring y'all out for that. Yeah, no, we'll be out there. I'm hoping to have obviously, Drake is going to be out there with me, but hoping to have a couple more guys come out there. We're going to Jordan Palmer, T.J. Yusmanzada. That's who works out Drake. But just getting out there, building the connection with all these guys and try to come back to it. It's your first mandatory mini-campus or rookie. How do you feel like it's going so far? Great. I think I'm learning a lot. I think I could say that for the whole rookie class. So we're just learning a lot and excelling at what we're doing right now. I think we're doing pretty good and we're headed in the right direction, which is all that really matters, you know? What's it been like to get reps with Desmond Ritter and also Marcus Mariota, how's the connection going?   It's pretty cool. I've been watching him since Oregon. So it's like a dream come true, playing NCAA with him and all that. But also Ritter too, strong arm, really, really smart. It's really, really cool to play with a guy like his caliber. How do you compare where you're at, how you're feeling, just comfort level now from taking the field the first time in rookie camp? Like night and day, like how today was, it was bright and sunny and then all of a sudden it started raining, kind of like that. Honestly, just getting in the field for playing football again at that. You know, I haven't played since like October. So I've had a couple of days in me, a couple of weeks in me to get acclimated and get back. I'm still progressing, obviously. All this is new, but I think I'm going in the right direction. Speaking of night and day and the weather, I don't know why I'm sweating more than you, by the way. This is water. I just spray water all over. What was it like? Is it a little extra, you know, intensity competition in the heat? Were y'all feeling it? Oh, yeah, most definitely. I mean, at least for me, I'm not used to this muggy weather like this. So it is a little bit new. But at the same time, it's just something you've got to go out there and do. And I don't mind it really.  So I think there was one moment we caught it.  Was that just the fiery competitor in you coming out that moment was early on in practice and drills? I'm going to be my hardest critic at the end of the day. That's how I've been since I was little, and that's how I'll always be. So sometimes it could get the best of me, but I try not to let it show and just keep it in my mind and keep on going from there. What do you like in particular about this hockey class? Just where everybody's mindset is. And it's honestly like a, I don't want to say like that, like a college field, but we're already so close knit to each other, which is really, really cool. And we were building connections that I don't think we're going to be able to break when we keep on growing, you know? So I think that's special about us. What makes you guys so close? Like, what's this connection that we don't get to see? I don't know. I honestly don't know. I just think it's a group of guys. I mean, Coach Smith did a great job of all recruiting us, all drafting us. So he did a good job with our mindsets and how we are sorry about that. So it just, we just go together, you know? What's the biggest thing you think you've learned so far, just putting in these OTA camps? What, anything that's changed for you? Again, the game comes down to a T is a game of inches. Everybody's on their P's and Q's.   And I think that's what we're all learning fairly quick out here. And we're doing pretty good. What's your plans look like after minicamp? I know T is over. What do you have going on in the summer to get ready?  That's it. That's all I got to say to that is just work my butt off. I got a lot to prove and I'm ready to do it. Are any of the receivers getting together or anything like that? Quarterbacks? Any plans to do that before camp? Yeah, most likely.  That's where I train and that's where I stay. But if they're out there, then I'll be more than willing to bring them in. Definitely going to get some work with the QBs, so it'll be good.