All right, you're digging. I'm not digging. Well, you're fishing. All right, see you Monday morning. Look, you like fishing too, don't you? Why is that a TV1 fishing? You used to do a lot of fishing, didn't you? Yeah, it's September, I don't know, Lee. What's your fishing season? No, get the book. August, no, I don't know. No, it's too soon. Is it? I think so. Why is it too soon? I don't know, Lee. Come on, we need to sit down and talk about this. Good luck. Yeah, later in the month. You can come with me, all right? I would like that. All right, let's do that. All right, Lee, thanks very much indeed. That's Lee Gooch. We'll push you overboard. That's Lee Gooch. Back with you Monday morning, Brighton Early, of course. The Ninetal Noon Show, just about to get on the way with our Friday panel. But first, let's get a news update. And it's over to Donald Kavanaugh. Thank you, Greg. Good morning. Donegal County Council has been told bylaws need to be introduced at Peers Inn in Shown, which are set to become much busier. On foot of changes, announced a week ago by Minister Charlie McConnallog. He announced that Bonnegui, Glenn Gad, and Marlon were being designated as EU Entry Ports for Northern Ireland registered fishing vessels. In a show on counselor, Johnny McGinnis says this is a welcome boost for the Peers and believes there'll be significant demand for the service. However, he says it also raises safety concerns, which must be addressed. The basic safety parameters that you'd expect from a working environment like that certainly do not exist. This is something that has to be let out upon immediately and we've got to be proactive in enforcing measures. And we can't do that without bylaws. The harbour without a bylaw is simply an ungoverned area and it's a recipe for disaster.  That's according to a new report on children's mental health. 78% of children's surveyed said they'd experienced some mental health difficulties. Pressure in school, body image, and social media were among the reasons that led to the issues. The children's ombudsman, Dr. Niall Muldoon, says children need to have proper mental supports available to them in the school setting. I think that's a really important marker that the children themselves are saying that because that's where they feel comfortable. It's where they're there every day and it's where they feel that the service would be best provided. I think that's something we need to move towards. Up to 1,000 new jobs are being created in County Galway. DEXCOM is building its global manufacturing facility in Athenrye. The high skilled roles will come on stream over the next five years. It'll provide around 500 construction jobs while it's being built and up to 1,000 high tech graduate and technician positions. And the Taoiseach says the government remains committed to supporting the Ulster University campus at McGee College in Derry. The issue was raised in the Dull this week by people before Prophet T.D. Richard Boyd Barrett who said the issue had been raised with him by a number of people while he was canvassing in the region for his party's candidates in the upcoming local elections. He said promises have been made but they haven't been followed through. The overactor told the Dull the money will come as part of the shared island initiative. The program for government affirms the government's commitment to greater investment in the Northwest and border regions. There have been a series of shared island fund allocations. Institutions have also successfully applied for funding through the shared island local authority development funding scheme and the North set research program. 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And you can also email comments at highlandradio.com and feel free to join us and watch the program across our YouTube, Highland Radio Ireland. You can watch on your Firestick or your Smart TV or across our Facebook pages as well and indeed on our website. Okay, so without further ado, let's say good morning to Emer McGinnis, the manager of the Donalgoal Mart. Good morning to you, Emer. Good morning, Greg. Thanks for having me. It's great to have you back on the show. Thanks for accepting the invite. Professor Pat O'Connor is a professor of sociology, social policy at Limerick University. Pat, always a pleasure to have you on the show as well. Good morning to you. Good morning, Greg. Thanks for having me. And our final guest, Kahir Lak, Liam Blaney. Good morning to you, Liam. Thank you very much for joining us. Good morning, Greg. It's great to have you with us. Okay, much conversation this week in certain areas about new laws that are aimed at curbing hate speech. Despite a spot controversy in Ireland and abroad, the updated legislation will create landmark laws to deal with hate crimes, making an offence to deny or trivialise genocide and expand protection to include gender identity and disability. Opponents of the Criminal Justice Bill have raised concerns that changes go too far and will stifle free speech. However, the defenders say Ireland's current legislation has been outstripped by the internet and contains significant blind spots. Existing hate speech laws date back to 1989 with the prohibition of Insight to Hatred Act. This makes it an offence to communicate threatening abuse for insulting material that's likely to stir up hatred against a group of people. However, under this new law, a person can defend themselves against charges by proving they did not intend to spread hatred and the onus can be on the person with hateful material. Let me put it like that on their devices, for an example, to have to prove that they didn't have an intention to use it for hate. Right, it passed through the doll. I think there was only 14, 15 opponents to it. I'll go to you if that's all right, Professor Pat O'Connor first. It hasn't, I mean, this is perhaps reasonably significant or maybe it's not, maybe the significance of it is being amplified by some sections. I don't know. What's your views on it? I think partly there's been less comment because it's taken so long. It's basically been on the go since 2021. And I think currently like new topics are welcome and discussed, but the public has very little interest in things that have been going on for years. I think this is important piece of legislation and it's difficult to know what will it work. And in a way, we'll only see that when it's enacted. I suppose what strikes me often is the people who are most vociferous about rights to free speech are the people who seem to have least awareness of the balance between free speech and kind of a social contract whereby you tolerate and accept the importance of discussion, but don't really attack, personally attack people who have certain views or for example, people in the context of women, some people, a minority I hope, do not accept that women should have a voice in the public arena and hence they're determined to silence them in those arenas. And obviously in the name of free speech sometimes. And obviously I don't think that's a good thing. I did like Helen Mackenzie in defending this bill stressed the importance of recognizing that often these times to free speech were about legitimating the desire to create fear in people and to silence them and that cannot be tolerated. There is of course a balance between free speech and the protection of people who are seen as in some way different whether in terms of gender or ethnicity or whatever. But personally, I think this is important but the question, an important piece of legislation but the question is, will it be implemented and will it work? We tend to be great at passing laws but not so good at implementing them. Amir, some people feel that it might stifle debate or if you have issues with things and you express those concerns and say for instance, people believe that the issue of transgenderism for an example that you couldn't oppose certain changes in laws or what might be spoken in schools or something like that there for fear that you could be dragged up under these really strong laws as being sort of anti-trans or something. That seems to be much of the concern that's out there. That's only one example of a topic for example. I think a lot of the concern would be what is hate? The definition of hate hasn't been defined properly within the legislation. And I think what a lot of the people that would have went against this and through the dog would feel that before it goes through they didn't disagree with it passing through the dog. What they disagreed with was that hate was not defined. I suppose a lot of it, and I was trying to think why did it pass so freely through the dog?  And is it nice? No. Is it acceptable? No. But that line, where's that fine line where someone is allowed to say what they think? Is allowed to get angry with a politician? I'm just using politicians as an example because they do get a lot of it. I do think they need to go back and look at it. I think that should be fought hard on to amend certain areas of it. No, people should not be allowed to say...  So that would mean effectively you could criticise, say for instance, Leo Veradkar, based on what he does, his policies, whether you agree or disagree, but you couldn't do it at the same time as using a racial or an anti-homophobic slur, for an example. Well, you see, again, that is why I think this is at the forefront and passed through so readily, through the door, for all them reasons that you've just stated. I don't think people should comment on anybody else. Everybody should be allowed to live as they want. But that also, where does freedom of speech come into play? Are we going to completely back up the court system? Like, this will be taken to the letter of the law in some areas and with some guards. And if there's a report made to the guards, they will have to follow suit on this. And we have a court system that's backed up with so many different... Oh, the court system completely jammed up. And now we're just going to... It makes it easier to get prosecutions. That's what happens now. I do believe anybody that, towards violence or all them things, we should have a law for that. And the law needs to be updated for that. But I think we've gone a little bit too far on this one. Yeah, what do you think, Liam? Because there is the fear there that these changes could lead to simply politically incorrect views being censored. And I mentioned issues around trans rights because that's very big at the moment. But also the laws would make it much easier to secure a conviction for hate crimes. I think that's generally accepted. And does that mean, then, that people who are opposed to immigration, that if they were to protest that, that that could be deemed to be anti a particular group, for an example? You know, that's what I think people are afraid of, that this will actually, even if it doesn't directly, you know, if people do it, it will discourage it, I think. I think people feel that this is a way of, you know, dampening down public discourse. Well, I do believe that something had to be done with it. I've gone too far. As you said earlier, the regulations and the laws that they're present as I did it because of the internet. And when you say it's easier to get convictions, it's not that easy to get a conviction court. You have to approve without doubt. And a lot of people go to court. A lot of cases taking a court thinking they have it proven in a simple matter. But, you know, it's not that easy to get a conviction. You have to be 100% proven that the person meant what they said. And then the student put the said, and I don't think it's going to be that easy to convict somebody because of something to say, because their opinion of what they said and your opinion and my opinion could be three different opinions of it. And the maintenance, they might have said something and that doesn't tend to the way some people would take it, take it out of context. So it's hard to know whether it's gone too far or whether it's gone far enough. But I do believe something definitely has gone and that's very welcome that has been tackled and only time will tell whether they have gone too far with it or not. Yeah, but Pat, how do we sort of keep checks and balances on this through this process then? Because it did kind of just not come out of the blue. Obviously it's been a long time and it's working, but it did just, you know, it's through the door, voted on, and now we're talking about it. Do you know what I mean? At what point in a process like this is there a public input to it? I mean, in fairness, there was a public consultation. The majority of people did believe that these laws go too far. The government in formulating it did disregard that. And I think I heard comments from Leo Veradkar yesterday suggesting that, you know, sometimes these public consultation processes can be hijacked by certain groups with an agenda and that also government really don't have to listen to them. So what is the point then of these public consultation periods? Like, do we need to roll back on this a bit, Pat? Do you think? Well, I mean, I suppose now, I think we shouldn't roll back for the moment. There has been a kind of a crudification of the public discourse over the past 20 years. The legislation that was passed in 1989 has had only 50 prosecutions in 30 years, right? We all know the kind of hate speech.  And it's speech which is basically speech or writing which expresses prejudice on the basis of whether it's necessity, religion, et cetera. So the example you gave yourself that in a way one can disagree violently with Leo Bradford's policies or opinions, but saying it's because he is of a particular dissent or because he's homosexual or whatever, that is unacceptable. And really, we need to call it out because it seems at the minute, I agree with both Liam and Emma on this, anything it seems at the minute can be said and particularly on the internet where people are anonymous often, there is no feeling of taking responsibility for your words, for your actions. And really, like that is not acceptable. It's sort of, I suppose I think of it, it's like in the playground picking on people, bullying, right? Somebody smaller or different from you. And that kind of attitude has to be rooted out. Now, of course, there'll always be, how do you really get the balance right? But we know the balance isn't right. We know the last legislation, 1989, my God, that's another world. We know there've been very few, as I say, over 30 years there's been about one prosecution a year. So really something needs to be done. And if in a way this will be monitored and we can tweak it, but there needs to be, we're increasingly diverse society. I mean, there was an item just this morning talking about travellers. We know that racism and misogyny. Well, you see, it's interesting, the case you talk of is Senator Eileen Flynn, he'll be talking to us a little later on, and she was recounting in her experience whereby a taxi driver wouldn't drop her off at a halting site. Now, in speaking out, it opened the floodgates on social media for offensive language. Exactly, exactly. But in a way, like... So why would you speak out? Because it just seemed to be open-season honour on her then, and the travelling community. Yes, yes. Well, in a way, like, that is just a nice... Well, not a nice... Leanne, stand what you're saying, a perfect timed example, yeah. A perfect timing example of how this... I think if it has a cruelification of social discourse has happened. You know, there was the time when people... Well, the internet, for the internet, you'd be writing to the... at times or the examiner or the press and that would be some sort of a mechanism to sprain out opinions. Now, anybody can become a keyboard warrior and basically say anything with no compunction. And really, we need to have a society where people are able to call things out, people are able to speak. We've seen loads of examples of how whistleblowers have been really... have had a dreadful experience. You think of the women of honour and all that has happened in the defence forces. But in a way, certain things are not acceptable. Society, we have to rub along with each other one way or the other. And in a way, we don't have to love each other. We don't have to, you know, accept the existing policies or the political decisions. But we do have to frame our critique in a way which recognises that there's a thing called a society, you know? And you can't... I mean, we all also have seen... But we also have seen... But what we have seen recently, though, and any of you can come in on this, of course, as well, is what we have seen is some language used in the doll, right, that would be classed as conspiracy theory language. And I'm referring to Michael Martin's comments on the ditch, for an example, right, OK? So things can... You know, language can be used in a very, very powerful way. And it can be used, especially when you enjoy parliamentary privilege. So you've got the people that are happy to use parliamentary privilege to get their point across and come out with stuff that's, you know, disprovable. But at the same time, the general population introducing laws to... Effectively, that if they took a notion, could stop conversations on an awful lot of things. Is that one of your concerns, Eymar?  I suppose I was thinking last night when I was looking at it, what's going to happen to the cares morgan program? Because he has plenty to say on everything. I, as I said, something has to be done. And certainly bring the law in. But I do think amendments does not have to be made for it, but people should not be fearful of speaking out and saying what they think. Education, monitoring the internet. And there's certain things should be done. And I suppose there should be, if somebody makes a statement, there should be monitoring all that to see what people are saying. You know, and that's the way it'll have to be tackled. Unfortunately, we can't gag everyone. People, certain elements of people will still... I have to say, I'd be very, go in there. And I know it was something I disagreed with strongly. I would respond to it too. So I'm probably one of those people. I'd like to think it wouldn't be derogatory when you see that sort of hurting intentionally, intentionally targeting people with a prejudice based on their age. But I mean, some of the language, right? I mean, I think we can have the conversation about, say, the transgender issues, but some of the language that's being used. Now, there are people listening to this programme who are trans or their children are or what have you. Some of the language in that kind of... Like, we could still have that conversation. But some of the language is very, very offensive to people. But that's what I'm saying. I do believe that if somebody opens a discussion and certainly opens it up to the public, that conversation then should be monitored and everything ends and everybody that responds to it would take into a case of basically bringing in a legislation that stops people having an open debate. It's like something in the agricultural sector. And there's a statement released and I have my opinion on it that might differ to the person who has released it. I shouldn't be allowed to respond to that. I shouldn't be afraid to respond to that. But should I be allowed to be used them? Absolutely not. That should be monitored. I think, Liam, as well, this is a fine example that we see time and time again in that. You know, I think it would be far better if these things were explained in greater detail, that there was some sort of a platform whereby, and I know there was a public consultation, I'm not on about that, but whereby things were explained in a little bit more detail, not something passed through the door and then you sort of have to address each point as it's raised. You know, better communication on this, Liam, I think would help people form opinions better. We're not great at communicating in this country, I don't think sometimes. Well, I'm not so sure of that, Greg. I'm not up to date, to be honest with you, with the different stages that I've gone through. But I do know one, as Amira has said there, just because you don't agree with someone's opinion doesn't mean that you have to use someone's language as you use. And name-calling, like the way someone do, you know what things to get on. I think that, like I said, it has to be stopped. How do you stop it? No matter what way you try to stop it, there's people that may not be able to say it's not as correct. And as Professor said there earlier, make a start on it so it can be changed. But I think we do definitely have to make an effort at it. Yeah. And that has been done at the moment. And just before we move on back to you, Pat, there's a text in here that's kind of interesting. Because it says, all we have to do is look at the story of J.K. Rowling.  These hate laws would not stop J.K. Rowling with the arguments that she's made. Her arguments, well, if you don't, I mean, obviously if you're on the receiving end of them, you might find them upsetting. But she doesn't use offensive language. She makes arguments that would not fall under this hate speech law. But then at the same time, they also say there'll be drag queens in every national school in the country and we won't be able to say anything. Which is kind of conflating two different things really there. I think that's where the fear has been whipped up right across this nation. Well, I mean, it's paradoxical that the writer sounds as if they're defending a trial by social media, while at the same time criticizing the legislative attempts to control it. You know, I suppose I want to come back to me, Hall Martin and the Doyle, his attack on the ditch. I thought I was completely out of order, completely unacceptable. And it was interesting the ombudsman was on and basically said they were surprised that if somebody had an issue with the ditch, it wasn't reported to the press ombudsman who could decide as to whether or not there was a case. That would have been the proper forum. I mean, I appreciate that we all lose the rags sometimes.  But it is important as opposed to name things, you know. And to recognize when people are out of order, just as we should recognize it in ourselves. Well, Liam, do you think that Ishaq was justified, the tarnished asari is now, was justified in his... No, I didn't hear what you said. I was correcting myself. Sorry, Pat. But, you know, like, I suppose from his perspective, he and his party has been getting an awful lot of coverage and it was his opportunity to fire one across the boughs. No pun intended, actually, given the... Who helped create the ditch. Liam, did you back him in what he said? I don't know, does he have more information than what he's saying? If someone in his position to say what he said, I think he has more information than what we realise. I could be wrong on that. But to make a statement like that, even was under the provisional, it's like you need to have quite a bit of proof. And I do believe that there's more to it than what he exactly said, or he knows there's more to it. That's my own opinion on it. I could be wrong on that. But, you know, when you have a particular media outlet attacking a particular party or two all the time, you just wonder, do you have a specific agenda against that party or the setup for that particular reason? I'm not sure. OK, that's the voice there of Liam Blaney. And we also have Professor Pat O'Connor and Eamon McGinnis with us. Back with more after we take this quick break. The fishermen working the seas off Ireland bring us a real bounty every day.  For lunch or dinner, Irish crab meat is a delicious shellfish you can buy cooked and ready to go in your supermarket or fish mungers. For great recipes online like crab pasta with cherry tomatoes and basil, visit boardbia.ie forward slash crab and make everyday meals amazing. Highland Radio, time checks with Expressway. Travel Route 32 from Letty Kennedy Dublin when you book online and travel for less. Expressway, bringing you the time, Matt. All right, it's 28 minutes past nine. Some of your comments coming in here, Greg. There's a very simple philosophy, re-hate speech. Don't say or do anything to or about anyone that you wouldn't like to be done or said about yourself. That comes in from Mary. Now, my experience online and I'm never offline, if the truth be told, is I don't really ever see what anything I would define as hate speech except from anonymous accounts on Twitter. That's pretty much the only place I've seen stuff that would fall into those categories. The caller says the greatest levels of hate speech seem to be directed towards Christianity and others whose beliefs don't fit in with today's neo-pagan secular agenda. Another, the legislation has gone too far. We need to stand up and object to this before we are unable to say a word about anything that is said in our schools. Another caller believes just another means of controlling everyone, especially anyone who opposes government policies and keep the power out of citizens' hands. Ignoring the outcomes of public consultations is proof of an agenda to me. What is the role of public consultations, Liam, because we would have them on various topics. They're there to gauge public opinion, but say, for instance, a good example, and I don't mean this controversial, but a typical example might be, say, for instance, a variation of the property tax, I presume, through the public consultation, loads of people don't say, right, keep it the same or raise it. They might say, cut it, but at the end of the day, it's an executive decision to raise it, issues like that. So, public consultations in sort of the political sphere, they do have an influence, but they don't determine policy either, do they? It's just still muted there, Liam, sorry. Sorry, Greg. It's all right. They don't particularly determine policy, but they do give the people that has the role of changing policy and idea of what people think. But as far as I see it, as far as I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to look at a council. There's very little people get involved in public consultations. They just don't seem to bother. But there is, at times, an effort made by a group with particular agenda will make an effort and look for people to go out and do a petition, and if somebody comes to you and asks you to sign a petition, there's not too many of them to say no. And then you have a public consultation that's lean on one way, not all the people that signed it feel the same thing, but they feel hard to say no when it's put in front of them. And those making the policy changes has to take out into consideration and has to take, as opposed to their own discussions with their own supporters and to consideration as well. And at the end of the day, it's as far as the politics and the council is concerned that public representatives make the decision. Just before we move on to this one, Emery, are you disappointed maybe that the opposition didn't, in whichever form that might be, by the way, I'm not talking about one particular party, did not sort of maybe try and draw this debate out a little bit more? Well, as I said from the start, I do believe they didn't because every one of them probably suffer at the hands of it every day. So that is why they quite happily let it pass through and did believe, and rightly so, that something had to change. But this broad view of bringing in this legislation to tackle an issue, it covers so many parts as freedom of speech and people now being afraid to say what they think, people have been afraid to open up discussions. I think that we have gone far too far and while people needed to be protected, I do believe if you open up a discussion like me, how Martin and the dog, you have to be prepared. You should have been prepared beforehand. He knew exactly what he was going to say and he went ahead and said it. So he is responsible. So anybody that opens up a discussion or debate has to be prepared to answer on that, whether it's positive or negative. And I suppose that is why you see a lot of our politicians getting attacked, that they have to stand accountable for all these different legislations to come whether we like them or not. And I am disappointed that more has, but I would like to think that all these, I suppose this news program, there's loads of them probably going on. I know it was on the Tonight Show last night that there will be amendments made to it and there will be changes made to it. I believe there should be and there has to be. People should be allowed to speak in a proper manner, obviously, on different topics. Yeah, indeed. And I think the government should make proper efforts to explain this, to let people understand what's going on and what the process is rather than soundbites or short interviews. I think there's more of a responsibility because I think it's never been more important that, yes, listen to programs like this. Yes, go on to websites or other platforms that, but people need to get to the, I think the public need to and should have learned. We should all have learned at this point that you have to go to the source of the information as well and not necessarily someone's interpretation or not with their political slant on it, Pat. Would you agree that we really need to, rather than if I only consume sort of right-leaning or left-leaning media, for an example, I'm only going to sort of get one side of that story or one interpretation of it. I think it's on us to make sure that we go to the source material and have a look of ourselves too and listen to different types of media and try and formulate our opinions like that, Pat. Absolutely. I'm supposed to come back to your question on to Lee among consultations, public consultations. Again, a way I do sometimes think that there is simply an attempt to keep the can down the road, do you know? That there's simply an attempt to find cover. So in a way, if the result comes out that it suits the tenor at the times, then they'll be accepted. But I have been a bit irritated, for example, at the number of citizens assemblies that are being created. Like these are a very good idea, but the idea you have one and then you implement the recommendations before you go on to the next and the next and the next. It's a bit now like, you know, it's becoming and we're trivializing these attempts. And I suppose it raises the question, you know, are the concept of Chuck de Dole, messengers of the people, are they messengers of the people or not, you know? And if we need endless paid consultants, citizens assemblies, et cetera, et cetera. Well, you know, do we need the number of TDs we have on local government officials? More are coming. So exactly. Exactly. Now, so in a way, of course, to come to your point, I mean, Amar's point, I completely agree that this, you know, it can, there is the possibility that people will feel silenced and that is wrong. So in essence, it is a balance. I wouldn't disagree with Amar on an awful lot of what she said, but I do think that things have reached such a pitch that things have to be done. Right, okay. Amar, just a quick one from you and then around the table, so to speak, we are entering what's been sort of framed as a milk war, bottle war. What's the feeling amongst the farming community that you've been receiving? I mean, farmers in the dairy sector did really well last year, I believe, but now maybe the chickens are coming home to roost. What is the feeling on the ground as it relates to these milk and bottle wars, the staples? You know, it wouldn't be good, obviously. We all know the costs of your average household has increased. It's no different for running a dairy or enterprise like the dairy farmers. It's electricity, feed, fertilizer, fuel, all them costing up in the fields, going back down slightly, but they took a double of the triple whammy over us. You say they did quite well, but all them things have increased on top of us. You know, it's Tesco, Aldi, Little, I think, and Supervalu have decided to pull, just for your listeners to do, oh, no, have decided to pull, I think it's 40 cent of the price of their own labelled water and 10 cent of the leisure of milk. And Tesco, nobody would comment about Tesco yesterday or the day before. And Tesco said they're doing it to help their customer with their household staple cost. But most of their customers would be farmers-wise and no farmer is massively rich. You know, I think farming, as I said, was always something that you were brought up in and that you progressed into the way of life. Are they making massive amounts? No, they can't afford to take this off a lot. I think it was estimated, I read in the farmer's journal, that a dairy farmer could lose up to 50,000 a year and has gone since January. And they can't afford to take that loss. You know, I don't know... Is it the case to, Emery, is it the case to, Emery, that there's a conflict going on here in that we can't really, maybe, necessarily do what we need to do in terms of, you know, climate commitments and also have cheap food, you know what I mean? Because I think there's a lot of people that believe the days of... No, I'm asking, this is a separate question, to some extent, Emery, there's some people who don't feel that the days of cheap food are over, because if we are to sort of make it in, you know, in new ways that are less impactful in the environment and what have you, that it can't be produced at the costs that people are used to. Yeah, but it's the farmer that's taken the loss. Yeah. You know, it's not the... No, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, in other words, that we expect cheap butter and milk at the shop, right? And we know it's the farmer getting the hit. But maybe we as consumers should not accept that and then the farm, you know, we shouldn't expect that. And then the farmer gets his fair cut. Do you get where I'm coming from? That's what I'm... I do get where I'm coming from. I do. I really do believe that we need somebody in charge of this.  The same thing happened with the beef not a year or so ago. They can basically, the retailers and the factories can basically do what they want in this country. And they're not held accountable in any way, shape or form. And our government and our minister would say they cannot get involved in that process. But, you know, somebody has to... There has to be an aggregate regulator put in place straight away. You know, there was all these discussions and tables and brought in last year when we had the problem and the beef prices. But, you know, what have we got out of it? You know, here we are today and I sit and talk about what's going to happen with the dairy farmers. And it's not right. When is it going to stop?  There's... When I see... I read the answer in the farmer's turn that Murphy wrote it. It's a great piece and people should probably go and read it. Basically, the government is talking about increasing and we need to increase our tillage farmers, right? But on the upside of that, the cereal growers have all gone out of business. Why are they going out of business? Because, and also, they can't get to land because all the dairy farmers have it rented. So, we're hypocritical in what we're doing. And this is what needs to be looked at.  And you can't just ignore all the small farmers, you know? I do think we need an agriculture regulator. I do think we need them straight away. Probably, if it's too late for some of them. Them dairy farmers invested very heavily over the last few years in putting all these systems in place. They were told to increase and increase and grow their businesses. And now, I think I'll watch you to the ground one night, was a dairy farmer off. Now they've been told to bring it back again. No farmer knows where they're going at the moment. It's very hard to know what they should do or what they shouldn't do. And I would like to know, you spoke about there, the producers, Craig. What producers are we going to have in a few years if they can't have a sustainable business? Are we going to be importing everything that we eat? And why didn't we cut the cost or why didn't Alianity cut the cost of their pasta or something else? Why was it the Irish farmers? And they'll have that slogan across their shop windows. We buy, you know, Irish farmers, but that's, they're not supporting them. That is where the deciding things are. They'll have a leaflet out, say, meet the farmer. And they trade on the fact that they can show a picture of a local farmer.  And it's the farmer who is picking up the tab. It seems, Liam. Yeah, well, the farmer is the price taker at the end of the day. And as Emery rightly said there, the factories and the retailers take whatever profit they can out of it and sign, squeeze the farmer. And I think, as Emery should well know, at this stage that not as a, not as a jar of McDonald's taken on, that's gone through the dial, the process in the dial the moment, a food regulator, an Irish regulator. And what role that Irish regulator is going to have, I'm not sure yet, but hopefully we'll be able to make a change as far as the price of the farmers receives. But I do believe, and some say is anti-competitive, but I do believe that there has to be a minimum price set on Irish food that can't be, the farmer can get no lower price than what has been set. As I said, some say is anti-competitive, I don't know what it is or not, but I think for farmers to survive is basically smaller farmers, that's important, something like that happens. And the quicker this annual regulator comes in, to get started, to get set up and get started, I think they're better and I think it's positive news for the farmers. Yeah, Pat, cause there's us, the consumer, and then there is the farmer and then no one talks about all what goes on in between and all their profits and what have you made. Yeah, and they're insulated, you know? I have mixed feelings on this. I mean, I'm from farming background. I want to note that farmers have never been backward and coming forward in organizing themselves. I completely disagree with Ema who said there are no such thing as rich farmers. There are, I mean, one of the really important things about agriculture is that there are two very clear groups, those that are huge, really farming on an industrial scale and those that are part-time farmers. I get a bit impatient too as to the way the farming organizations manipulate the discourse. At times they want us to see this farming as an industry. At other times they want us to see it as a kind of a sacred cloud, the farm family, you know? And they oscillate between these two positions depending on which, you know, works best. So for example, like there was no end of discussion about how farming was, you know? It was basically generating, you know, it was a homegrown product that we were getting all grass. Really, we had no environmental costs. And then when, you know, the price of goods, I mean, butter has increased enormously in the past year. And when that was kind of, you know, it wasn't, initially it was said it was transport costs were, and then it was clear it wasn't transport costs because the price of fuel was going down. And so it was fertilizer, but hello, there was no talk of the importance of fertilizer when they were talking about, you know, grass-fed cows and lack of environmental impact. So, I mean, I do think there is a question as to whether or not what is the breakdown of money, who's making the profit, right? In terms of the retailers and the factory owners versus the farmers, I think that is, there's a fudge there. But I mean, I wouldn't be looking to the farmer's journal for an unbiased opinion on this. Sorry, Ymer, you know? Well, in fairness, maybe talks into the last conversation we had, perhaps it's the only legitimate voice of farmers because in every other newspaper, they're held up as being parasites, the worst thing ever. Only legitimate. I compare them, for example, to the childcare sector. Farmers have had a representative in Europe since Adam was a boy. They have been extremely effective in organizing, for example, co-ops, representation and co-ops. They have been vociferous in government. I mean, the whole idea of a department of agriculture in a way, there's no department of childcare, you know? The childcare providers are seen as irrelevant, wiped out. So farmers are coming from the fishermen, another group that were sold on the river with the EU. Farmers have been doing very well. So we heard nothing when the problems happened. Come here, Pat. I'll tell you what, I don't know how long, Pat, you've been holding on to this, but my word. Ymer, do you want a quick 30 seconds? Pat, I'm sorry. All I have to say is you are not involved in the farming sector. You are not in Donegal. And you certainly, if you were in Donegal, you would not say that the farmers are rich and doing very well. I said it was, in Meade, there's a very different story. I didn't say, I mean, small farmers, absolutely. But you said there are no rich farmers, well, hello. I, okay, right. There might be some, but they're getting fewer and fewer. And you know something, you're talking about rich farmers. We need them farmers to produce what you want to eat, your butter, your meat, your beef. And you said about the breakdown. I don't know about the breakdown down at the butter, but I do know the breakdown of the beef. And the beef farmers are not getting, it's the factories that are making the money, and it's no different here with the butter. And the retailers are making the money. And I have to be very, very firm on that. Liam. This is very briefly, I've done an oldest ad about what Pat is saying there. And when you're down in the south of the country, and you see some of the largest dairy farmers that's down there. And fairness, the farmers journal will say it, they will say it, who is making the most money, the average income per year for dairy farmers, sheep farmers, all the farmers. And you will see where some of the dairy farmers are doing fairly well, but there's huge, huge and cost as well. And nobody knows behind the scenes what the morals is like for them farmers. It looks good in the front, out front, but behind the scenes nobody knows what the real story is. Well, as far as, as Imer said, the farmers don't go off.  All right.  Yes, no rich farmers there, but there are rich farmers in the country. OK, well, what we'll do is we better take a break. We'll be back with a final segment with our brilliant guests after this break. Back in about three minutes. A public information day on the preferred option for Nardunov flood relief scheme will take place on Thursday the 11th of May in Miva Family Resource Centre from 4pm until 8pm. This will be an opportunity for the public to view the option before it goes to the statutory planning process. Attendees will also be able to discuss the option in person with the project team and provide feedback. All are welcome and encouraged to come along anytime between 4pm and 8pm. No appointment is necessary. If you're 70 or over or have a weak immune system, it's time for your spring COVID-19 booster vaccine.  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OK, well, if you take it from my own, look at us, you know, a couple of years ago I might have been more actively involved in a lot of the different farm organisations and stuff that were at the forefront of farming. I think people in general, and farmers in general, have become so busy and are struggling so much that we just don't have time to get involved with them. You know, so the parties on the farming all the different organisations are still there. And I believe that they're doing their role to the best of their abilities. I did the rural group which you spoke about. Do I see a need for it? Absolutely. I do believe that there should be. And I do understand why Michael Muppets-Mars has taken to do what he has done. When you have a particular party, regardless of what that party is in government, you have to have an opposition party. And the reason you have to have an opposition party is you have to listen to everybody's concerns and what their opinions are. And it's like any decision you make, any work, and you have to listen to everyone around the table because they might have a very good argument to put forward. And I feel that that's sometimes where we fall down. We go ahead, we implement new laws, we implement different, just no matter what it is, you know, for the people. And we're not really taking into account how it's going to affect them people. And that is why... And I see what he's doing, and I understand what he's doing, and I suppose what he is saying is he needs a voice. He can't do it all on his own, he has to. Liam, the more opposition parties there are, the better. Because, you know, if you look at the polls, Fina For, Fina Gel and the Greens, very, very strong still. You know what I mean? The government parties as a collective, there's no reason, really, why you could make a very strong argument for them being able to be returned after the next election. So the more splintered in inverted commons the opposition is, the better is for those government parties. Well, as far as farmer organisations are concerned, and I don't know what to do with the blob, but there's lots of ways to stay up in my backyard with the big plan we've just started.  It would be a very good organisation that was especially on the north-west and west coast and down the south-west. And some people try to take full control of it themselves, and that's happened in numerous cases, and the blobs splintered. And it's basically nonexistent in this country now. Like the Fasmora, as far as I remember, we did this a number of years ago as well, about starting up a new farmer organisation. He didn't take it any more at that stage, as he tried to give himself a bit of public support out there through the farming community before the next general election. I'm not so sure what idea behind it is, but I do believe that there is enough farmer organisations, and the contrary, as it stands. You're talking about opposition. There's plenty of opposition to each other. There's numerous amounts of farmer organisations there. Unfortunately, someone speak down the south of the country and differed from the north. I was a member of an organisation myself. A farmer organisation I left on the member of another one now. But when they're up here, they tell us what the small farmer went to here, when they're down the south of the country, they tell them what the larger farmer went to here. And that is wrong. I think if you were to represent a particular type of farmer that you should be representing that particular type of farmer, not trying to represent them all. That's what someone was saying. I do think maybe that's really a problem there. Pat, a quick comment from you. I agree with you on this. I think the voice of farmers, well, the whole farming area is fracturing. And the extent to which a new organisation, whether it will be dominated by, for example, mountainy sheep farmers who are really on subsistence and have no anger as I see it, as opposed to the very well-heeled industrial type farmers who are in very fertile land in the east. And the tendency would be, of course, that the dominant group would be those who have the time and the energy and the space to actually, as opposed to the people who are an awful lot of farmers, are car-time farmers, as Emer has implicitly said, that they themselves or their partners are working off the land. And so in a way, their voice is not going to be represented by those who have farm managers in situ and who are basically farming, you know, 4,000 acres of very fertile land. I think there is an issue of the rural versus the urban. That is a real issue. But in a way, focusing it on farmers, I think paradoxically, it could actually weaken the farming voice because it will highlight the splits within farming. I think the whole idea of, if it's not an organisation that was a party, Kersh said that, like, if it's Morris, just work here on that. Yeah, it's from Fennesse, it's me. I've kind of blended the two together and I've been sitting here watching it unfold in front of me and I apologise for that. Yeah, he wanted, it was a party and he wanted political representatives forward to represent, and it was rural farms and the rural areas in which he did. But as regards to the farm and organisations, we most definitely have enough farming. All right. Amur McGinnis, manager of Donegolmont, thank you. It's a pleasure as always. As it is Pat O'Connor, Professor Pat O'Connor. Brilliant to have you back on the show. Hope to see you again really, really soon.  Thank you, by the way, for coming on as well. 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Well, Nishon councillor, Johnny McGinnis, told the council's fisheries committee this week, it's a welcome boost for the Peers and he believes there will be significant demand for the service. However, he says it also raises serious safety concerns which do have to be addressed. The basic safety parameters that you'd expect from a working environment like that certainly do not exist. This is something that has to be let out upon immediately and we've got to be proactive in enforcing measures and we can't do that without bylaws. A harbour without a bylaw is simply an ungoverned area and it's a recipe for disaster.  Pressures in school, body image and social media were among some of the reasons that led to the problems while the children's ombudsman Dr. Niall Muldoon says children need to have proper mental supports available to them, particularly in the school setting. I think that's a really important marker that the children themselves are saying that because that's where they feel console, it's where they're there every day and it's where they feel that the service would be best provided and I think that's something we need to move towards. Donegal County Council is urging people to engage with them as plans for the 12.5 million euro Fort Dunry project near completion. The council says it wants to hear from those who use the site about their current usage and how that can be facilitated into the future. With more, here is Donna-Marie Doherty. Grant funding of over 9.2 million euro has been allocated by government backed by 3.2 million euro in funding from the council. The project is intended to physically link the three elements of the Dunry site. Locks will be below the Fort, the Promontory Fort and the High Guns Fort. 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That will drive down water temperatures and attract large cold-blooded fish into our seas. Co-author of the report, Dr. Jared McCarthy, has been outlining what this might mean for the Irish climate. Now, if the situation happens that the Gulf Stream system weakens dramatically as it potentially could, then that leads to even and potentially a slight relative cooling in Ireland. But also an increase in that storminess and knock on assessor precipitation, particularly in the summer time. And a 20-year-old man arrested in Derry on Wednesday following the seizure of suspected Class B and Class C drugs has been released on police bail to allow for further inquiries. The man had been initially arrested on suspicion of driving without a license or insurance and suspected drugs, drug paraphernalia and a quantity of cash were recovered during subsequent inquiries. With a forecast on that here in Telus, rain will linger for a time this morning with sunny spells and showers following. Some of those showers will be heavy and possibly thundery in the afternoon and early evening. Spot flooding is possible in some places. Top temperatures today 14 to 18 degrees Celsius in light to moderate southerly breezes. And that's Highland Radio News. We're back with news headlines again at 11 o'clock. Until then, from the news team, have a very good morning. The obituary notices for this Friday morning, the 5th of May. The death has occurred of Philip McCallion, Mintahala, Elise Balimagan-Bunkrana. His remains are opposing at his home. Funeral from there on Sunday morning at 10 o'clock for 11 o'clock mass in St. Mary's Church Cock Hill with burial afterwards in the adjoining cemetery. The funeral can be viewed live on church services .tv. The death has taken place of Bella Gill, Namighee, St. Column Hill Village, and formerly of Lago Hurri, Isle of Doe, Clonmoney, and Derry Begg. Her remains will repose at St. Column Hill Village oratory from 2 o'clock until 8 o'clock today. 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Funeral from his late residence this morning at quarter past 10, going to St. Mary's Church Cock Hill for 11 o'clock requiem mass with burial in the adjoining graveyard. The funeral mass can be viewed on churchservices.tv. For more details, including any family health guidelines for wicks and funerals, please go to highlandradio.com. Netic makeup drove him to lift championships, collect all stylus and now informs his cutting-edge opinions. GAA is in Joe's DNA. And it's in Arras, an independent sport. Read Joe's microscopic GAA coverage in the Irish Independent and Sunday Independent. Irish Independent, up close, an independent. With all the stories that matter across the Northwest, it's Greg Hughes on the 90 noon show on Highland Radio. All right, hopefully you enjoyed the last hour of the show there. Thanks again to Emer Pat and Liam for their contributions. And also thank you so much for what you have been sending, and I'll get to that in a moment. We were going to be talking about RTE's decision to broadcast the coronation of Britain's Charles as king. There's been quite a bit of opposition to that. What do you think? I mean, it's across every UK channel, British channel, but RTE are broadcasting it. There are people that believe it is an attempt to launder the reputation of the monarchy. Will RTE also now be broadcasting? The coronation of other kings and queens across Europe and the world. What do you think? Do you welcome? Because your views are the most important of all, don't you know? Do you welcome RTE broadcasting? Four hours of coverage of the coronation, or do you think they should put Judge Judy on and Dr Phil instead? OK, let's get to some of your comments here. Have farmers ever made money? Since I can remember, they've been complaining if the job doesn't pay, get out, they say. Finafall and Finnegale members have no issue with media when they are pro-government, independent and RTE, for example. Government parties need to concentrate their efforts on delivering for the good of the country and not obsessing over Sinn Féin. The government conducted a poll on introducing hate speech laws. 70% of the public were against new laws, but the government in Sinn Féin ignored the public by pushing it through. Kind of right what actually happened was there was a public consultation, as there is with an awful lot of things. 70% of the submissions either were against it or had concerns with how far the laws reached. So it wasn't necessarily that they were against it or voted against it or it wasn't a poll. It was a public consultation. But it's still not insignificant, but just facts matter. Does this mean that those who constantly knock and mock the Catholic Church can be taken up for hate crime now? Well, if people make derogatory comments based on someone's Catholicism and it's not just that it upsets you, right? This is not about being upset. This is about it being properly truly offensive. Well, then presumably so. This is all due to people trashing the government saying what they think of them, which is useless, believes this caller. Another, dress it up whatever way they want, but I think it's all about silencing people. I have to agree childcare facilities are glorified babysitters and so heavily legislated. That's off the back of a comment from Professor Pat there. Another caller says, we need to protect our farmers. We need to protect our fishermen. We need to protect our freedom of speech or we'll have nothing left. Again, we don't have freedom of speech here is the point I was trying to make. It's not enshrined in a constitution. I think we're heavily influenced by what happens in America and what's governed there. And someone made the comment offline. It's also about this conversation about our neutrality. Again, we don't have neutrality as such. We have a policy, right? But it's not in our constitution nor is freedom of speech. You have the freedom of expression, but that does not transcend the rights of others not to be offended by what you have to say. And that is the way it is now. How can a store decide price and farmers lose not right? Well, that's the situation it seems. Another caller says, should people expect, should people not expect cheap food? Question mark, that's a question I posed. Not an opinion, by the way, a question. And up then the caller goes on to say, should we be robbed every day at the shops, pay the farmers properly in the stores, we'll still make a profit. And if they don't like it, they can close. Why is the government keeping big business happy all the time but not the people, they say. Committee of Agriculture are long overdue to do a study of each county to figure out how to be most beneficial to the people of the country. The day small farmers go out of business will be a sad day. They keep the land and play a big role in communities. The caller says, Greg, what is all this money they used for Fort Dunray? Why is it not used to build houses for people or for the people who live in falling down houses? This is all wrong, how this money is being spent. I think people's lives should come first. Again though, and I said this yesterday, not going ahead with Fort Dunray doesn't mean a single house would be built. There is a fund for house building that the government can't actually spend. There's been a massive underspend in consecutive years in the housing department of housing. So not progressing Donray or not progressing that development in Ballabaffet, which was mentioned yesterday, does not lay one single block. The money is there for housing. They just have to figure out a way. They would argue that they have already and they're working on it. They have to figure out a way to deliver these houses. As I say, it's not money coming from housing going to Fort Dunray. They can't spend the money allocated for housing as is. Why should poor working families for everything subsidised farmers who pay no tax have their kids educated for free? If they're not making a living, sell up and get a job, pay their taxes and contribute to society just because you're left a parcel of land, society should not have to pay to keep your upkeep. I don't think everything you've stated about farmers there is true. Farmers of course pay tax. Everybody pays tax. And I know many farming families can't afford to send their kids on to education. So we also know that not to be strictly true. A lot of stuff that we get in the shop and pick up off the shelves are produced by farmers. And the multi-nationals are making a fortune. The factories are making a fortune and your neighbour is the one that's struggling. Everybody else is making money, but the farmer is struggling. That's not fair. Would it not be better? You could still get your milk and butter at the same price. But if farmers then were paid a decent price for the production of these products rather than some company based in Germany or Britain or elsewhere making massive profits. You know, I don't think us the consumer should turn against farmers or vice versa when there's so many faceless people and companies in the middle that are making an absolute fortune. Why do we fight against each other rather than focusing our attention on the common enemy? Now I use that word because it's the only words that fit. I'm not saying they are our enemy, but do you understand maybe where I'm coming from? Right, OK. Listen, thanks for all your calls and comments. Keep them coming in to us. Loads coming up on the show over the next couple of hours. Michael and Finula will be joining us just after 11 as well, which should be a bit of fun as we ease our way into this bank holiday. Why did they even say bank holiday? 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OK, welcome back to the programme and it's a good morning to Senator Eileen Flynn. Senator, good morning to you. Good morning, Greg. Thanks for having me on. Shoulders morning. No, it's good to have you on, Eileen. I wish we were speaking in different circumstances. You've publicly spoken of a recent experience you had whilst in Dublin. What happened? I got a taxi back from the city centre and it was to Balli Farmers. Balli Farmers is a welcome class area in Dublin and the taxi driver said to me, OK, have you got money? I said to him, of course I have money. He took me out to Balli Farmers. When he realised I was going to a hotend site, he stopped about 200 yards away from the site and said, oh no, I'm not going in there. He said, just caravans in there. I said, OK, I won't pay you. And he said, no, you have to pay me. So he said he's going to call the guards and I said, actually you'll come in. The crimes will I call the guards. And I did call the 999 emergency service and I got through to a man that said to me, actually this is a waste of guardies time. And I was trying to explain to him, oh it's not, he's been, in my opinion, he's been discriminating against us. That he wouldn't take me into where I needed to go. So the operator said to him, why won't you take this woman to our home? This is what you're meant to do with Baila. And when I called the operator, I was a public representative. He did change his tune. He was very nice. And basically the taxi driver wanted the operator to stay on the phone while he dropped me to my house. And the operator did stay on the phone and he apologized when I got out to taxi. The operator did say, I'm very sorry, you said you had to experience this because you could hear how upsetting I was, you know. The thing is, Greg, that the majority of taxi drivers are absolutely lovely and they will drive into Heartland Sites. Unfortunately, this is an everyday account for members of the Traveller community is that people refuse to, even like takeaways, delivery services that won't go into Sites. And you know, I do understand that in some places our people may have had somewhat negative experience with members of the Traveller community. And I totally get that, like people have negative experience with the Settled community and people in different areas as well.  That's inappropriate and shouldn't happen in the days one. Do you think, now we'll get to that actually, Eileen, because I'd be very interested in your views on that. In relation to this taxi driver, do you believe he was ignorant to the realities of the fact that he could have just dropped you in or do you think it was an actual prejudice if you know what, do you get where I'm coming from? Like, do you think he was... Yeah. Like, do you think he maybe has been educated through this process, or maybe he actually has views have been strengthened because of what's happened?  You know, so he was very blunt.  He said, I'm not going in there because there's a caravan and that was a hot insight. And again, I could totally understand Greg DeFair and Fer is out there, DeFair of the unknown communities.   And for me, really, it's about challenging that. Who takes responsibility first? Like, should the Guards have come out and said, actually, you know, from what you're after putting her through, she doesn't need to even pay the fee, you know? Because again, there's nobody held accountable.  And I want your listeners to understand that. And I understand there's a lot of people who are fair and saying, oh, we won't have the freedom of speech. But unfortunately, people really need to know free speech is not racism, it's not discrimination. It's not thrown up, it's not thrown up hatred, planning to burn a Traveller home saying that actually Travellers are going to be moving in here, so we're just going to put life to the building so that they can't move in. That's hate. That's absolutely hate, and it's thrown up hate. So, like, people really, like, I'm far from a person who says people should be put to jail because of committing a hate crime. People need to be educated that it's not okay to store up hatred. It's not okay to not like people because of their sexuality, because of their background and being pure, hateful, you know, the transphobia, the homophobia going out and attacking people, spitting on people's faces. I know of a Muslim woman walking over Haightly Woods, now this is going back 15 years ago, and I've been campaigning for hate crime legislation more than the last 12 years. I think now is what's going on in society. This hate crime legislation is long overdue. Okay, and I want to ask you another question about that. But, you know, by speaking out of your experience, you knew, perhaps, Eileen, what was coming. And that would be, effectively, you setting yourself up as a target on social media for anti-traveller abuse, very, very strong language. You know, people feel that that is a space, particularly on Twitter, whereby, because you have highlighted this issue, that they can target you with offensive names, stereotypes, and what have you. The whole thing is, I'm going to be carrot anyway, because, you know, a few months ago, I used the word, worst, things are getting worse for refugees, and I got so much abuse on social media, it wasn't because of my language, what happened was an issue, and people are going to try to pull you down all the time.  In doing this is a war at the end of the day, when you have two young kids to look after, when you want to live your life as well. But the reality is, you know, it needs to be challenged, and it is tough to challenge it, but the thing is, you're going to have haters out there, one way or the other. I think there's a responsibility, too, though, not just you, but other people, and maybe those not directly affected by it, to call it out as well. Yes, but we all need to do it in a very careful and a strategic way as well, like racism is racism, and we need to call it out, and if I was to sit back and say, absolutely nothing, now, I haven't even read half the comments on social media, but I get that anyway, I get that anywhere because I'm a member of the Traveller community, and that's the harsh reality of it, and people don't think, and it's so easy, Greg, like you know yourself for being a journalist, that people can just attack you, and there's no, they don't have to take responsibility for it, and it's so easy.  OK, finally, and I know you're busy, but just in relation to these new hate speech laws, there are people, a number of people, I don't know how great they are in number, who feel that this is designed to protect politicians, to stifle debates so that we can't talk about issues, you know, social issues like transgenderism, for example, or immigration, there are people who believe that these hate law speeches are designed to stop that type of conversation so that governments can push their agendas through. What do you say to people who have that view?  Now, I do understand people's concerns and what we're trying to do as a civil engagement group in the shambles is address those concerns. We all have the right to be able to have discussions. As we did open discussions around even the reproductive health care realm or peeling the amendment, and it's okay for people to be educated, and I think now more than ever, we need to educate people, but also we need to be very mindful that, you know, we have to look for equality for all, and I think a lot of the time, Greg, we forget about the ordinary working-class person as well, like we have to be looking at adding a tenth of a ground of discrimination, and I do think your economic background as well, needs to be added and denying ground to make a tenth ground of it, and I think conversation is key education because when we know better, we do better. Okay, good stuff, Eileen. Your hands are full there. Who's in the background? Sorry, Billy. We're here at it as an exchange. Thanks so much, Greg. All right, take care. See you, Billy. See you, Eileen. Thanks very much indeed, Senator Eileen. Flynn there, 086625,000 WhatsApps and texts to that number. 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If you're watching us online, we will be going dark for about three minutes for copyright issues, but stay right where you are because we've got a couple of interesting guests coming up between now and 12. And dancing in the dark. Good luck if you're heading down to see him. Okay, let's introduce our next guest. Tia Gallagher and Rihanna Daharty, students at Rossies Community School Dunlowe. Good morning to you. Thank you for joining us. Good morning. And also, Alicia O'Heart, a teacher. How are you getting on, Alicia? Not too bad. Thanks, Greg. Thank you. Excellent. Now, we had the students on a few months ago talking about their project, Menstrual Waves, which highlighted the lack of education in schools regarding the menstrual cycle. And congratulations because he's had great success with the project. And you won the National Silver Award, a massive achievement well done to all of you. Tia and Rihanna, how pleased are you with this recognition? Really happy. Awesome. Yeah, okay. So talk to us about this project. Just give us a quick run through, Tia or Rihanna, whichever if you want to do it. Well, one of you is going to have to. I'm just going to say Tia then. Talk to us about it. Talk to me about the project, Tia. Oh, sorry. We just can't hear you very well. Oh, sorry. Okay. That's no problem. That's my fault. So talk to me about the Menstrual Waves project, Tia. Your brainstorming for an idea, of course. And it was like one of the general kind of ideas that we could do something along the lines of and then we like researched more and more and were shocked to see that there were little to no learning outcomes in any of the SVAJ, Comac or science and the ones that they are in are either extremely limited or like, you know, you can choose to do it. And so we decided then we found that out that we were going to do the project on it and it was kind of slow to start to get in contact with as many people as we could know you're on head and ready and it kind of went up from there. Excellent. I'll tell you, you're saying all the right things, Tia. Rihanna, you've produced a book that helps women and understand, you know, the menstrual cycle, the impact it might have on them and explains how they might feel, you know, things that here to fall might be, you know, not understood. And it's a booklet that you hope will be widely available, I presume. This is the booklet here. Brilliant. We felt that it would be more personal to the young girls themselves if we just made a booklet instead of having it as, like an app for instance, because like, it's just, it's like diary, like journaling. It's just very much more personal than apps because the apps collect information from you and just, it's just, that is more... I think, you know, I think that's a... Yeah, now it's fine. Yous are doing great, by the way, so just relax. Rihanna, I think that's a really good point in this day and age that, you know, an app would just blend into the home screen of everything else, isn't it? Whereas this is something that's tangible and you can pick up and read and ironically, more likely to get your attention and feel more personal, just like you've been outlining. Like everything's on apps these days and it's just getting a bit too digitised. So like Rihanna was saying, for them, it's like a sacred thing to sit down in their own space and like writing in a diary to be able to track how they're feeling on that day to really sit down and kind of listen to their bodies and write down their mood, their energy level, how they're feeling, if there's any symptoms and track other things to do with their periods as well. That can be very helpful.    And I think that everyone needs to know a lot more about it to understand it. Yeah, Alicia, what was the Croke Park experience like? For me, sorry. Yeah, any of yous. I'm just trying to give everyone a chance to speak. Do you want to talk about the Croke Park experience? How did you find that? We found it to be amazing. It was so much fun. I think when they're working on their project, they're in a room once a week and they don't realise that this is a country-wide thing and that there are schools from all over the country working so hard as well. And I think when they've seen them out of students, and that was only 40 projects picked out of the country, so you're talking 700 certain projects. So when they've seen 40 other schools and all of the amazing work that they did, and you know, for our project to be up there with them, you know, was amazing. And then they're presented to a range of judges and he's found like, never again, but good. Is it a wee bit like Dragon's Den, that kind of a thing, is it, yeah? Yeah, and he's got a phone call to go and present again to another round of judges. And we knew then that they were being considered for the top three prizes, bronze, silver and gold. So even to get that, I think we were shocked when we see the calibers of the projects. So they've got to present again to new judges and I think he's found that one more difficult. Yeah. And I just want to tell about the moment you were crowned silver second in the country. Well, like, they kind of hinted towards like our project being second. And as soon as they said the name, we just jumped up. We were screwing them around right up and got us through. I've never seen them run with that. And I think, do you know what's good about this is, is that it's really meaningful as well. I mean, it's fantastic to have that experience, okay? You'll never forget that sense of when your name was announced and you won, but also you've produced something that's very useful once the dust has settled. Do you know what I mean? That people will be able to use and access. And the more people, I think you'd agree, Rihanna, the more people that get their hands on this, the better because it gives meaning to how one's feeling. And there's nothing worse than you feel something or something's changing. You don't know what it's about. You search for answers and you attribute it to something else. This will help people through a very, for young people already a very difficult part of their lives. It might just make some sense of some feelings that they have. Yeah, because even like when the girls are explaining to some of the teachers and to even their older friends who have been obviously having menstrual cycles for years, they don't know a lot of the information and are surprised by it. So, you know, they're educating a lot more than just the students, which is brilliant. Yeah. And they've also done parents information booklets as well that they've delivered and they're in the process of delivering to the prime risk which is then to give out to their fourth, fifth and sixth students as well so that the parents can have a little bit more information. And another thing that it's doing is normalising a conversation that I don't know, Tia and Rihanna, but perhaps maybe Alicia, you might have slight more of an insight into this, is that this is a conversation that would have been completely taboo, not very, very long ago. You know, you merely couldn't say the word period was almost a swear word and it's not that long ago. So, I think... There's still a lot of language has to be changed. You know, if you look at any of the TV advertisements or anything, when they're talking about period products, they're still calling them sanitary products. They're saying basically that this is something that's only clean. You know, they need to change that just to period products. This is just something that happens to girls all throughout their lives. It's very normal. And, yeah, they need to update that language to be more... Yeah, well, the adverts that attract often most of the complaints are those for period products. So, we perhaps don't have quite a way to go.  Congratulations, Rihanna. Thank you. And also to you, Tia Gallagher. Well done. It's an amazing achievement and a brilliant experience as much as anything else. And Alicia, a heart teacher as well. Listen, thank you so much for keeping us informed. And it's great to get you back on and to celebrate the success. Well done, all of you. Thank you very much. All right, bye-bye. Enjoy the rest of the day and your weekend, OK? Tia, Rihanna and Alicia there, OK? We'll be back with more on The Ninetal Noon Show in just a few moments. Our heart disease are at risk. No pneumo. 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OK, a caller says, Far Right seems to be one of the most effective name calls to stifle certain opinions that might create an obstacle to particular agendas or particular groups. That's not terminology we generally use. It certainly doesn't come out of my math. I don't think it's constructive at all. Just like to say, the farming is a seven day a week, 365 days per year. There is nobody to phone in sick or no holiday pay or those extras. If we didn't do what we do with the subs, the people would just have to live on water and weeds. And all food is provided by farmers, says another. Everyone needs the farm to survive. The grants farmers get are to subsidise the food. If they weren't getting these grants, your food would be double the price. That comes in from James Infant. Thank you very much, James. Right, OK, is Noel Cunningham with me? Noel, good morning. Hello, Noel. Can you hear me? No, unfortunately. Noel is unable to hear me. I'm going to kick him out and then get him back in again. Just in case there's a problem with our setup here. Right, OK, more comments, though, as we do so. Why is the chaos at our hospitals ED not making the national news except locally? No longer a trolley crisis as they seem to have run out of trolleys. The hospital crisis is now taken as norm just like the housing crisis and homelessness has become. That is how it feels. It should be much bigger a deal, I think, especially as we heard those stories yesterday. Noel, can you hear me? I can indeed. It's Greg here at Highland Radio. Noel Cunningham, everybody knows Noel, of course. The longest reigning ever, Donegal Person of the Year. He no longer has that crown. But we still love you nonetheless, Noel. Well, I'm very happy to hear that. How are you getting on? I'm doing fantastic. OK, now we put it out there, Noel, about RT's decision to televise the coronation of Britain's King Charles. To be honest, it's a mixed bag. Some people happy enough with it, others not. So what's your view? And we'll talk more about the whole pomp and ceremony of it. But RT, opting to broadcast it, what's your views on that? I think they are doing absolutely the right thing. The viewer numbers will prove that.  We have made a huge contribution to Britain as an Irish nation. A lot of us went to England to work and were treated with great respect. A lot of the older generation who grew up with a kind of slightly strange relationship, you know, love-hate relationship with the royal family will tune in and enjoy every moment and apart anything else. We will not see this again in a lot of our lifetimes nor have we seen such a spectacle on our screens because the Queen reigned for so long. It's about five or six years ago since you met Charles and Camilla during their visit to Donagol Town. I think I've got the time. Maybe it's longer than that. Maybe it's much longer. I don't know. I'm terrible at times. You spent some time with them. What would you like as people? Utterly charming. The Queen Concert is a delightful lady. Good company, very earthy and I know that the situation around sort of they're getting together and all that has always and will always be interesting to various debate but I found her delightful. She treated people on the Diamond in Donagol and everywhere she went on her visit here with great respect. He is fascinating. Interested in people interested in culture history interested in Ireland has a love of Ireland and he told me himself in his own words that her Majesty had always wanted before she died to come and visit Ireland and how much the visit meant to her. He's a very sincere, genuine man a very spiritual man a very driven man and we scorned and we said things often so many years ago because we felt he was out of step we're a little bit sort of crazy now a lot of what he was talking about everybody's talking about conservation global warming our sustainability he was on that years ago he was ahead of his time he's a very thoughtful man and a very charming man and a delightful man and he's a big challenge because modern royalty modern monarchy they will have to alter the way of doing things quite significantly in order to still remain somewhat relevant do you think they will because for me and I'm not a royalist I don't like all of that hierarchy in any country but is this kind of the lasting of a dying wasp because now we are hearing that a number of countries may now become republics through referendum and also to people are very aware of the very difficult times that people are going through in Britain we are here in Ireland in terms of cost of living and paying bills and what have you and all the pomp and ceremony and the gold carriages it just doesn't feel very 2023 it just feels to me like you say we won't see this for quite some time I have a feeling this is the last time people will see this in a British context certainly on the scale well I kind of disagree with that because Prince William has the ability with his wife the Princess of Wales Catherine to actually perhaps inspire a movement with his generation on matters conservation and again sustainable and all of that inevitably after the Queen's death there were certain countries going to decide to hold referendum on whether or not to feed the British King as head of their country and naturally enough a lot of them will decide no but they will still maintain a close relationship with the British crown because a lot of them have benefited greatly too so it's a difficult as I said a difficult crossroads in the whole area of monarchy and in Britain but in Britain despite their situation now which was also very much added to by Brexit and bad decisions made and our England is rather isolated because of that at this moment nonetheless the British public by and large have a love of the royal family certainly that diminish slightly on the death of Her Majesty the Queen but it's still there it's still strong and they will look to monarchy and the government I mean sensibly enough will make sure that it's nurture too because for trade tourism and prestige the royal family have a huge contribution to make now for those who do want to watch you know there will be a lot of people watching on people who are interested in it but also people who are interested in being offended by it you know yourself the way it will be it's going to be a very different experience from Britain's Queen's Coronation that was 70 years ago people perhaps have seen this footage on news and what have you this is going to be done under not only the mainstream media but the social media microscope so if people are interested in it they're going to get quite the perspective absolutely you will never see anything like it I won't in my lifetime for sure I think you're right the POM quite the ceremony and with that as you say that blanket coverage it wasn't around all those years ago when Her Majesty was crowned you know when only the chosen few who could afford to go to a cinema if they were near a cinema saw it on pathy news and such like it's really fascinating tomorrow to see it in its modern context and you know going back to what you said and it's interesting it will be very interesting for all of us to watch and really see on our screens whether we're watching it on an iPhone on a laptop or whatever a tablet wherever to see if it is screaming this is totally out of step with modern world we live in with modern Britain or you know what I like a little bit of this a little bit of tradition a little bit of history a little bit of you know culture it will be there for all to see which is going to be the most fascinating part of it and the king don't forget is a much older man the queen's coronation was a very lengthy affair oh my goodness and I believe that his majesty this evening at Buckingham Palace will leave early because he's hosting a reception like our president will be there for example but he will he will retire early because he couldn't he wouldn't have the energy that his mother had she a young woman in her 20s when she was crowned my goodness if you can I'm sure you'll be watching before I let you go because I think you're like me I'm really interested in all things celebrity to some extent Clare Burns pulled out of the running to host the Late Late Show I think Ryan Tauberty's last shows this week or next week have you a preference as to who you would like to see host the Late Late Show I I think they're going to struggle no to get someone to take that poison chalice particularly in 2023 but you must have considered someone that you think would be I think you'd be a great fit for it I I'm on record as saying and I will repeat it and I was interested to read the wires early morning that Clare Burns had dropped out I think Patrick Kilty's the man and he will be fabulous he will be amazing and he will be that breath of fresh air that the show probably needs at this point it'll give RT an opportunity to shake it up a little bit and move it around and again using a royal reference again make it more relevant to a different audience I would put my money on Patrick Kilty listen Noel have a lovely weekend thank you for your time as always I really do appreciate it I wish you and your listeners a very happy weekend and thank you as always take care Noel have a lovely day Noel Cunningham there do you agree disagree 08 6 60 25000 very shortly we will be joined by Michael I'll get to some of your comments that are coming through on that I'm trying to reach to the ones that are relating to that particular 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Thank you Greg good morning emotion calling for purpose built accommodation for nursing and midwifery staff we're at the ILO conference in Kerry this morning nurses say affordable housing in large cities and towns will be key to retaining nurses and midwives Health Minister Stephen Donnelly will address the conference today in Cullarney he's also expected to announce additional nurse training places Dunningall County Council's Fisheries Committee has been told bylaws need to be introduced to ensure safety at piers and harbours in the nation which are set to become much busier but again Glenn Gadden and Madden have now been designated as EU Entry Ports Northern Ireland registered fishing vessels Councillor Johnny McGinnis says it's a welcome boost but it raises safety concerns which must be addressed long waiting time is identified as the biggest challenge in accessing child and adolescent mental health services that's according to when you report on children's mental health needs 78% of children surveyed said that experienced some mental health difficulties the children's ombudsman says children need to have proper mental supports available to them in the school setting. 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Search Irish Life Health is regulated by the central bank of Ireland's terms and conditions apply call us to see exactly what's covered. Centertainment two minutes past 11 this Friday it's time now just to switch off a little bit from the trials and tribulations of life and just insert another set of trials and tribulations into life in what? In the form of in the forms of in the forms of Michael Michael and Lula I just I didn't see that coming you think after all these years the puns would be like right there right here come here we were just talking about the television or televising of the coronation of Britain's king tomorrow for against will you be watching it for no ladies television. Well anybody who listens to this regularly knows I have an issue when it comes to them in that way I want to dislike them and yet I get dragged into I mean I sort of flicked over just to see what was going on with the funeral and kind of three days later came out of it you know that's because you just get it's amazing to me really because it's like it's complete twatle you know what I mean and we all know that it is and you're like thinking in your head going you know people in the world are starving and all people trying to frame like that but it doesn't I know but then you sit down and actually once you sit down then and watch it sucked into it and suddenly you're like why is that guy standing there holding six hats what does that mean why is that why have they just towed a stone down from Scotland yeah like well they didn't give it back to Scotland for years that's why in fairness that's why it's they had to give it back it used to sit under have you never watched the movie with Robert Carlisle no and they went and nicked it and actually very fun movie but it used to sit underneath it it was always placed under the throne where it's just very hundreds of years and then they had to give it back to Scotland so now they have to get it back to up and down again but it weighs a lot of but I get caught up in all that crack because I just just think you just get dragged into kind of the history of it and the fact that these things actually stay so strict and to the rule and they don't seem to bend I mean in fairness in some ways the Catholic Church is actually a bit more fluid than the British monarchy when it comes to you know going with the times yeah yeah and I mean and obviously all the to talk about I think I think really the death now for the Royal Family for me was that visits was it that one of the sons and not Andrew of course William he went to some African nation and it just was ridiculous do you know what I mean that you had the locals you know just the way it was received just the sort of the elitist of the Royal Family and then the country then colonised or was it that one of the Commonwealth countries that he was at yes but I think it really kind of highlighted how life has progressed if you know what I mean in a in a short space of in a short space of time but that being said the argument you see won't the argument that you know Britain has gone through a terrible time at the moment people are starving and and and poor in great great numbers and this massive amount of money they tried to do a similar argument here with the Biden visit but it doesn't it doesn't really wash with most of the public people just accept it yeah yeah I think that's probably the thing I mean like you know there's a lot to be said for when the Queen passed away people had hurricane in their heads and hearts or whatever and whether or not that was going to be the change of it or that people weren't interested in it and then they came out in their thousands and queued for hours and days just to walk around a coffin you're like it does Michael was there yeah absolutely yeah oh yeah so it's a royalist me yeah I'm I'm the queen yourself I would say I'm not to be too serious but I'm very much my father's son I look at the royal family through the filter of Irish history so I won't be watching tomorrow oh my god if my mom and dad were alive mom would be watching she'd be because she just loved it dad would just be like Sue I think we passed the heat in it and I'd be with dad so you know a couple of congratulations congratulations to Winnishawn Rugby Club ahead of their 50th anniversary celebrations and opening of the chain dune rooms tomorrow from car and done a nursery best look to that it's the first inter-provincial match ever to be held in Donnie Gaul actually it's a junior match and they've got entertainment I believe from half I don't want to say it now in case to get it wrong I think the entertainment's from half one and then the matches at half two best wishes to score in an old bon crana all island drama final today in canty carry written and directed by Patricia Tinney Daugherty from everyone in bon crana and of course as you might know Tiny Vaughan is behind a raffling of a tractor it's to support a number of groups who were involved in the response to the Creasler tragedy and it's going great guns apparently that fundraising continues in letter Kelly shopping centre today tomorrow and on Sunday and it's the Meaver fire service a great organisation who are one of the beneficiaries I believe and also who are selling the tickets alright it's a lovely tractor it's a 135 as well I love to interact I like the idea of it's like owning one of those flatbed the truck you know the way that's another thing I want a high luxe of quad and a tractor yeah once I saw Pierce Brosnan drive he drove it over lava I was like oh yeah I totally need one of those I drove over lava awesome I think we need a reset Michael Eddy redemption of a Rogan RTE 2 yes this is on tonight you love Aaron? yes have you ever heard of him for Lula? I didn't realise he was a fan of yours I watched this movie last night I had never seen it it came out a couple years ago 2020 seems to be the date on the movie it's all on tonight I went into a sort of blind last night I had friends of mine had seen it and recommended it and said it was a dark comedy and it was definitely my cup of tea you were right I was laughing loud and heavy from early on in this film I have seen this film and I'd just like to say that in 2020 I too recommended it to you and it took you two years before friends recommended it I think it's three years you clearly established our relationship friends recommended it to me and then he decided to watch it entertainment slosh telling him this is horrendous they're fighting again we're going to make Greg cry he hates it when Mammy and daddy fight on air so this is a very surreal film Jimmy has been away from home for seven years and he returns home home being west cabin rural cabin and we learn early on in the film that Jimmy is a pariah in his town for various reasons one very funny and one very serious so when people see him on the street he's a Jimmy Cullen and then he would never come home so Jimmy does come home and very early in the film he visits his very sick father and very early in the film this is not a spider he accidentally kills his father and that sets in motion a variety of events the funeral cannot take place while it rains the father has stipulated so it rains for like 40 days and 40 nights during which time the children stop speaking and stop eating and the businesses start closing down and everybody starts to panic and that's Jimmy's fault so you can gather from this brief description this is definitely a very surreal film not to be taken seriously it's dark the theme of suicide runs through it in a way that works really well but might not be for everybody and there are some religious moments moments in a church where statues come to life they may offend some people didn't offend me in the slightest I was laughing from start to finish even though friends recommended it see it tonight it's a good laugh, it's a Friday night film we know there is a hierarchy of his friends anyway and you aren't quite low I'm not the top 10 anyways I'm ignoring both of you get a beer and sit back and enjoy it tonight or a cup of tea in fact I about an hour into it I wanted to make a cup of tea and then I got caught up in the story and 20 minutes later I was like well if I don't go and make a cup of tea now it'll be over because I got so wrapped up there was a big twist about an hour into the film which I thoroughly enjoyed it's great fun, it's great crap and I know some of the people in it I've worked with one of the people in it you've recommended loads of people in it loads of... you are a fan of his Aaron Monon what has he got that I haven't got I want to know can we time, we don't have to go off there at all he would acknowledge me better than you do in public and my thoughts I think but no Aaron Monon is in it he's a fantastic actor his wife has actually directed it I think that's the way it's a group that they have in camp they brought a few pieces here the same kind of group that have made that movie they did and now of course we can't think of the names remember we saw a play the play in Cork the group of kids that was him wasn't it that was the hit wasn't it with the animals in it yes we did yeah they had the very I left to look it up seeing that your grandmother would not approve of they brought some stuff here to the theatre and this always has kind of a dark sort of a crazy kind of an edge to the stuff that they do but it's definitely well worth watching yes I think this is just the best way so marks out of ten easy eight it was a little bit too dark for my liking I wouldn't like it as dark as it was so I probably would have given it but still would give it a good seven seven and a half like there's some great acting in it there's some really a lot of faces that you'll recognise some different things you've seen some great Irish talent in it so it's definitely worth it having a look at it all right so let's go shall we to the cinema guardians of the galaxy yeah version three very excited Michael and myself and myself took ourselves to the cinema to see this we actually end up seeing the 3d version of it because it's in and the local that are Kenny cinema here in both 3d and non and this is supposed to be the final rendition of guardians of the galaxy there's been two previous to this and obviously being volume three this is the final one and it's also I think kind of marks the end of a chapter in Marvel where they're kind of moving they if anybody's a big Marvel fan they know they kind of do different stages and this is kind of still part of four isn't it and we're heading into five now as the next sort of group that it goes so they finished off a lot of people's stories and that kind of thing I absolutely adore Guardians of the Galaxy I think it is one of my most favours of the Marvel movies this one sort of is a little bit of a step away from it the one thing I would say about one and two in Guardians of the Galaxy even though there was some kind of like minor adult teams or whatever like abandonment and different things like that that come up in it you could bring a seven eight you know all those little kids you see run around in the the pajamas and all those you know with all the superhero pajamas and that you could bring all of those to see this movie and the Guardians and you wouldn't you know there was nothing in it that you think that oh god that could take that away and it might be upsetting for them this kind of took a little bit of a dark twist turn which is not outside of the Marvel idea but kind of for me for the Guardians was kind of outside of it the stories are normally that sort of sort of a bit more brighter than the other was but this sort of had a dark twist there's a one of the characters in it and we got a lot of his back story and that was quite dark and kind of upsetting there was a lot of stories coming to an end or coming to a close that had kind of been the teams that had come across the three movies I'm not sure was I very happy with how some of them ended but then that's my own personal you know I like everything to be tied up with the bow. Well it cannot be completely written, directed, filmed, produced to satisfy every one of your wants Fenula as much as we because you are an individual on a planet of seven billion. I know but she's one of my friends too let's just put that out there. I hold my opinion very highly though so I really feel they should give me into account but no I have to say it is an absolutely totally enjoyable movie it's getting like even when you're reading the reviews and stuff on it it's getting huge rave reviews from the viewers and that some of the critics are kind of coming on both sides of it there's a lot of sort of going on in it the stories probably. It looks amazing it looks absolutely fantastic. If you can get to the big screen 3D or not I don't know. But it looks like you want to see this on 3D. The 3D I was kind of walking out of it thinking I didn't necessarily think it was anything massive. It's really hard to talk to each other in 3D with the glasses on like hello No she still talks. She still talks. I think sometimes with 3D films they stick stuff in for the 3D part of it that perhaps doesn't need to be there. There are points where the person goes hey look over there Look at that thing there I don't think In our head Over here But I think in our heads as well I'm of the old fashioned kind of thing if this is what 3D was supposed to be 3D was supposed to be like when you stuck out your finger that I nearly felt like you were doing there that I nearly feel it brush against me with the reality to me all it gives is it gives a depth into the picture I don't really remember when it first came out we were like oh my god this is going to be like as if you're in the movie and that it was going to be they started going in the 4D where they started putting in the touch and the smell and all that into it as well and you're like oh this is the way to go but now it just seems to give a kind of depth and it doesn't really add a lot to it but some people really enjoy it so I suppose I wouldn't take it away from them Did the 3D add to the experience for you? No I saw Ant-Man in 3D and I thought the 3D was much better in Ant-Man the 3D in this was it's give or take there was a couple of times when you were looking through the bars of a cage and stuff like that and that's impressive but apart from that no was the answer to your question There's not much no whereas Ant-Man really took you into the alien world and there was things off over the horizon and there was stuff that I thought was very cool Just a different take So what did you think of the film out of 10 then, Finula? I think it's going to be a great popcorn movie in it that you get out Look, 100% It was a fantastic movie it's got all of the elements that you're looking for I wasn't mad about the stories I would have been in other ones You were very invested in the story and the characters and that kind of thing sort of I suppose in my head knowing that it was the last one you kind of felt that things were going to be resolved in some sort of a way and a lot of it wasn't and then there is a question of will they show up in other movies along the way in this new thing and maybe that's why they've left it kind of up in the air to me it felt like I kind of needed another one it sort of felt a little bit like a middle movie kind of a thing isn't it moved the story so far and then it's kind of been left a bit but then they may address it in the next volume of it but I did really enjoy it there's no way you could go in and walk out of it without feeling that that was fantastic and so I would definitely give it an 8 or 9, 100% I really enjoyed it but I would say to people who are used to it being like Guardians being the one that you can confidently bring smaller kids to I think you might want to sort of check it out online and just make sure because if anybody who watched it, the one of the characters Rocket has been experimented on and they go back to his story about the experimentations and while none of it is very graphic as to what happens there is other animals that have been experimented on it kind of gives you that sort of do you remember in Toy Story I saw another reviewer had kind of put it again said remember one of the toy stories where the neighbour had taken the dolls and kind of put them on different bodies so there's a little bit of that in it which could for younger kids that would normally sort of say oh god no problem I would have brought anybody to see the Guardians movie I always thought it's a lovely starter for Marvel I loved it to me it's like the Captain America's have always been the best trilogy now I think maybe Guardians is the best trilogy it's a uniform, unified cohesive story from beginning to end I think it's a definitive ending I just think it didn't end the way maybe we're expecting I think James Gunn is finished now because he's not with Marvel anymore a lot of those contracts are finished I know some of the cast have said that's their contracts done and they're not doing anymore and I think it's a good ending actually it's a great ending I cried more than once during this film luckily the 3D glasses kept Feluna from ridiculing me goggles that were filled filled with water the whole way but I loved it I'll be going back to see it again I would look forward to watching it but I actually might do the 1, 2, 3 I think you just watch these particular films maybe there are people listening that watch them in the same context of you but you just watch them in the context of the wider Marvel picture and you don't need to buddy of mine No I'm not Guardians pulls out entirely that you don't need to because he had said to me after we said oh I haven't seen that man yet and I was like it doesn't matter they're not connected just go and see this if you love the Guardians movies I can break before I do Seager Sessions Revival it's a 13 piece band of musicians from all over the North West they're celebrating Bruce Springsteen's Seager Sessions album if anyone hasn't seen them they will know they're how awesome they are well they're playing in the Button Factory Temple Bar Dublin tomorrow if anyone's travelling down for the concert also you can see the Seager Sessions Facebook page for a list of venues and dates to be played across there was another thing I needed to mention here has anyone watched Beef on Netflix I so nearly gave it up midway through episode 4 ended up finishing it that night Beef on Netflix haven't even had that flag to me sorry, put your mic down a guy from one of the other radio stations would he be a friend Johnny actually would be a friend a friend you might listen to ignoring you both he we used to watch Lost together back in the day when I lived down in Gaul he knows you he begged me to watch Game of Thrones and I watched the first two and went oh my god I will never speak to him again and then I watched the third and suddenly six seasons later you're speaking to him he's recommended this beef and it has been lit for another series which is unusual for Netflix because they keep pulling out the one series one series wonders oh my god I think it's set in a chef's thing as well isn't it last season of Brooklyn Nine-Nine was it 99? Brooklyn Nine-Nine finally dropped on Netflix very hard to end a good show but I think as this listener they did it perfectly good to hear have you watched that? this is part of my troll through life trying to find my next half hour comedy it has been happening for 4 years because I haven't found one two episodes it went on for like 8 years where is the new series Brooklyn Nine-Nine is up there with Parks and Recreation it's up there with Modern Family 30 Rock it's a really good police funny great ensemble cast it's really a workplace I mean yes the police element is there but it's a workplace comedy it's nice when fans like our listener are happy with how how often we disappointed you know yourself some of our crossovers on stuff we like I started watching Jack Rye and again because I wanted to sort of follow on from the night clerk night agent sorry I watched that but I have no recollection of anything that's happening in it whatsoever I don't know what was going on when I watched it the first time but it's enjoyable you're a big fan I'm a big fan I wasn't crazy but series 3 I wonder is it because binge watch things and when you binge watch things do they all morph into like this amorphous thing you don't remember but it's great film that first season it's probably the first and see actually no the first two seasons are really really good you haven't seen the third and I'm not sure how much of the first I watched because it is so fresh but it's just a good show it's a good show I agree it's a lot of stuf