Microsoft figures out a way to make the Surface Pro Studio or the Surface Studio makes that a viable alternative because if that thing got some actual speed to it and lost all the horrible lag in latency with the pen, that thing would be totally on my radar and it's less expensive than the high-end Waycom all by itself. So yeah, horrible lag, sounds like something. It's bad right now, but they need to be addressed. And if they ever fix that, all bets are off. That could be a really sweet deal. All right, y'all ready to talk some Samsung? Ms. Lane, if you would read line three today, please. I would Lee, it's Lee Grimes, I'm going to guess related to Grimes. Very, very cool name. I like it. There we go. Three, two. Lee Grimes has supported independent tech news directly for five years. Be like Lee, become a DTNS member at patreon.com slash DTNS. This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, February 20th, 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Fila and I'm Sarah Lane. From Salt Lake City, I'm Scott Johnson. And I'm the show's producer, Roger Chang. Oh, we got Samsung news to talk about. Samsung Unboxed announced a foldable phone, some new S10s, some wearables and earbuds. Our resident Android user, Roger Chang, is going to weigh in on just how expensive things all are. But let's start with a few tech things you should know. Not to be outdone, Joe me announced its flagship Mi 9 phone with minimal bezel and a smart notch, a small notch, rather, for the front facing phone and a triple lens array on the rear. The rear camera includes a super moon mode for night sky images and at 960 frames per second, video capture and advanced motion tracking. Now, the models are available for pre-order in China between around two hundred ninety nine one or U.S. No, no, two thousand ninety nine R.M.B. Oh, Chinese currency. Right. Four hundred forty five dollars or five hundred ninety five dollars shipping by March 1 or earlier. Hmm. Those sound nice. Well, look at this. The EU council has agreed to the EU copyright directive, which includes provisions designed to make websites liable for uploads in certain instances and limits what's on snippets websites, may display what they may display from news organizations without seeking a license. Finland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Poland are the only countries to object to the directive. The directive now goes to committee and then on to EU Parliament, which will have a vote in March or early April. And Vivo said I won't be outdone by Samsung or Xiaomi and announced the V 15 Pro, the second phone from Vivo with a pop up selfie camera, although this time it's got a thirty two megapixel sensor and won't always be taken thirty two megapixel photos. But when you need it, that that amount of megapixels will be there. The rear camera has a forty eight megapixel sensor. Same sort of copy out of flies. V 15 Pro also has a six point four inch OLED display, thirty seven hundred milliamp hour battery and an in-screen fingerprint sensor, just like the Samsung S 10 V 15 Pro with its pop up selfie camera will launch soon in India for twenty eight thousand nine hundred ninety rupees, which is about four hundred bucks US. All right, we've got a few more things to talk about before we get to the Samsung announcements, starting with our good old friend at Bloomberg telling us what's up at Apple. Well, now that I've snapped my pop up selfie camera off, let's talk about Bloomberg Mark Gurman's reports that he says sources say at Apple or excuse me, sources say Apple's project Mars upon aims to let developers build an app once and then run it on iPhone, iPad and Mac. And this sounds familiar to the early surface stuff. Anyway, starting later this year, a new developers kit will let people port iPad apps to the Mac by twenty twenty. iPhone will be added to the kit and by twenty twenty one, the kit can merge three ports into one binary, so they won't need to be submitted for each store separately. Apple will likely announce details at its developers conference, which takes place in June 3rd or from June 3rd to June 7th. And I would say this, that if they want this to be good and reap the benefits of one code base, three platforms, simple submission and approval, they better have lots of ways in that developers kit and in those tools to not make it look like people are just running crappy tablet and phone apps on their computer and vice versa. That's the point. That's the point. Scott, before the show started, we were talking about the idea of doing what you do based on iPad, pros and perhaps desktops. So would this be something that would change your your your workflow in a good way? Well, so it worked well. Yes, that's the trick. So there is a, we just talked about it in fact, nobody heard this, but I guess good day in that people heard it. But I really like the drawing app, the painting app, illustration app called Procreate on iOS. It's fantastic as a pocket version on the phone. But the one, the big hot one is the iPad pros version. And it's really, really great. Combine that with the device and the pencil and you get a really masterful art tool if they figured out a way to make that work on a Mac as a desktop version of Procreate. And now we've got interoperability between desktop and tablet. That would be incredible. I'd lose my mind if you could have and for that matter, all the people that have got Waycom's designers that have already got hardware there for them to get Procreate as a desktop app without Procreate having to have a whole new team doing desktop ports, that would be amazing. Yeah. I mean, that's what Apple wants to do. Although German says that the sources say Apple doesn't want to merge the operating systems, they still want Mac OS and iOS to be separate operating systems. They just want to make it easy like the surface stuff for developers to be able to say, I've got one binary. I submit it, it goes into the Mac store, it goes into the iOS store. It looks right on the iPad. It looks right on the iPhone. Obviously, there's some design elements that you have to adjust in order for that to pay off, but it would mean an easier compilation of the code because it just be one binary. So that would be interesting. I'm curious to hear what they announce on June 3rd. Google announced earlier in February that the Nest Guard, the hub of the Nest Secure system, would get an update adding support for Google assistance. Bit of a surprise since the Nest Guard, which came out in September of 2017, apparently came with a microphone built in that nobody knew about and wasn't listed by Google in any of Google's specs. Although Google says that was a mistake, not to list it. And the mic was never activated. And don't worry, users would have to turn it on themselves in settings. OK, the mic was originally included in anticipation of future updates that would allow things like detecting the sound of broken glass, among others. Yeah, so it's a security system, right? They want to know if a window got broke to be able to alert it, but they didn't put it on the box because they didn't activate that yet. And it was an oversight. Google's like, oh, I guess we should have put that in there, although it was not functional. And here's the thing. There's precedent for this. Almost every phone sold throughout the 2000s had a radio tuner built in that in many cases could have been activated by software, but phones didn't put it on the box saying, hey, it has an FM tuner because they weren't going to activate it. They're like, we're not going to use it. We don't want it to be drained in battery. So we're not going to tout it as a feature. So there's a line to walk here of like, well, if you put it in the specs, are you then advertising its use? Are people going to say, well, it's got a mic. Why can't I talk to it? So Google did what phone makers did with the FM tuner and said, we're leaving it off the box. But in this world of privacy where a microphone isn't just seen as a piece of hardware that provides a feature, but a potential spy device. Now people are like, but you should have told me there was a microphone in there, even though Google swears up and down. Yeah, but it was never doing anything. It was just a dead piece of hardware until now. Yeah, I heard about this and, you know, all you everybody wants to jump to conclusions and say, ah, they knew it was in there. They're spying on us. I very quickly got past that meta layer and got to, well, when they say it was a mistake, do they mean it was a mistake to put it in and not tell anybody and now in retrospect, they're feeling like it's a mistake to have not told us or are they saying it was a mistake not to have it in the documentation in the beginning? It was a mistake not to not to note it in the documentation. It's a no in this area, though. Yeah, put it in the documentation, then people get mad, like, why can't I use it? Or they put it in the in the specs, but not on the box label. And then people can accuse them of trying to hide it because it's in the specs, but they didn't then note it on the box or they don't include it. And then people are like, why can't I use for Google Assistant with with my Nest Secure? Well, it's because it didn't have my why didn't you put a mic? Like you cannot win the situation if you're Google. I really don't think you can. Yeah. All right. Somebody that is winning that we didn't expect to be winning at this point is Garmin. This is like telling me that the creative nomad is like on the uptick. I was one of those people who thought and Garmin's probably not going to make it for very much longer because they make standalone GPS devices. And who needs those when you've got it on your phone? Well, Garmin, maker of navigation devices and smartwatches reported a strong Q4 and forecast full year revenue and profit above expectations. Now, I'm not totally wrong. Carnav fell 28 percent, but Garmin hasn't just been sitting around waiting for the cratering of their main market, they've been creating new markets. Marine navigation is something they've moved into strongly and are selling very well. Sales of Garmin's ADSB based products for broadcasting a planes position have been rising because US regulations go into effect in 2020 requiring all planes to have these kinds of devices. So Garmin's selling a lot of those to people with planes. Garmin sales of smartwatches to outdoor enthusiasts also rose 25 percent as the kind of wearable smartwatch market starts to slowly rise in general and Garmin's got the outdoor camper and trucker market locked up because they're in every REI everywhere and they've got all the outdoor enthusiast type of features that people want. So, hey, look at that. Some good news about a company. Well, and also, you know, good on Garmin, you know, getting to the marine the marine space, the the the the aviation space. We can in in back in the day, you would have said, OK, they, you know, Garmin is like GPS, whatever, there are lots of them. So as the market becomes more saturated, clearly Garmin has figured out where there are other avenues to get into to make it more advantageous for them. What remains to be seen is will other companies do this and take their market space from there? Yeah, I mean, the thing about Garmin is they were always in that category. I used to put blackberries in. They were like an early 2000s, early established, cool, new tech, and they really grabbed it and they owned that market. And when you thought of GPS, you thought of Garmin. And just like when you thought of phones, you thought of Blackberry for a while. And then everything got pulled out from underneath them. I really did think that Garmin, Tom, wasn't long for this world, but it's nice to see that we were wrong. Yeah, that's great. Tom Tom, on the other hand, has it diversified as much and is having a little more of a problem. They're not. They're still around, but they're just having a little more of a problem. Hey, folks, if you want to listen to 90 minutes of us talking, not just the 30 minutes of Daily Tech News Show and you want to listen live and discord, you can do both of those things or one or the other by becoming a patron at patreon.com slash D T N S. All right, let's get into the fold, the Samsung Galaxy Fold. Oh, he did there. So it looks good. It is a 4.6 inch display. So it's a lot of bezel. If you're one of those bezel haters, you're not going to like this. 4.6 inch display on the front, but then you unfold it and you get a 7.3 inch infinity flex display. Honestly, this may be the thing I'm most excited about because I like the 7 inch tablet form factor and having that and the ability to fold it up into a phone format. That's kind of interesting. Comes in black, silver, green or blue. You can personalize the hinge color with those colors if you want. The hinge mostly disappears. The you could tell there might be like a slight discoloration where the gap is when it's in tablet mode, but it mostly just looks like it's gone. Sound by AKG because Samsung owns Harman. So they're going to say that about everything. There is a notch in the upper right corner during tablet mode that they kind of be if you're a notch hater, you're not going to like that can do three multitasking and tiled mode. So you can do three things at once. You can switch between the screens very impressively. So if you're like, say on Google Maps on the phone format and you unfold, it just unfolds pretty snappily, at least according to their demo, right into Google Maps on the 7 inch screen. Seven nanometer processor, 12 gigabytes of RAM, 512 gigabytes of storage support for EUFS 3.0. That'll give you faster read and write of your flash. Two batteries, one on each side. If you're wondering how the battery works, it they've figured out how to make the battery work together. So they have two of them in there on each side as it folds and unfolds. Three camera sensors on the back, two on the inside, one on the front, a thumb sensor on the side for unlocking coming out April 26th in LTE and 5G models. The LTE model is a thousand nine hundred eighty dollars because this is a luxury model. Oh, I will say, Scott, I mean, is this a price that you could even like get get on board with the rest of it being so cool? It's pretty cool. I think it looks like a dopey phone before you unfold it. And then when you unfold it, you're like, oh, this is fancy. And also to their credit, they've eliminated a lot of the thickness. I saw in that stage presentation where they showed the prototype where I should say shadowy showed the prototype where they kept it all dark and you couldn't really see what a freaking sandwich that thing was. But this is way this looks way more refined than that. That makes me very happy to see that this is such a product I would wait. I mean, I want to hear people's impressions, but this is so the kind of thing I would wait for a second generation for. Oh, my gosh, me too. Amber just took a total dive because you're, you know, these things are going to get improved, not only that like normal, but the issues they may have with the crease in the middle or how much use may create a worse crease. Am I going to get a yellow stain down the middle of that screen eventually? Like I got lots of fears, but this does feel like a really rad step into the future I wouldn't mind inhabiting. So I'll be honest, that's a lot of money. I might try to justify it as a business expense to test it. And I don't know, live with it or something, because I really do want to try this out. I would assume that most people shouldn't buy this, that it is too early to buy this. But I have to say, I think they're onto something. I think they have created a form factor that is somewhat compelling. So, you know, it's also a nice stake in the ground because this always happens. Somebody will do something. And then the other side will say, hey, we came up with that first, whether you're an Apple fan or you're an Android fan. And this is actually like a hardcore stake in the ground that says we're Samsung and we made the first foldable, workable phone that turns into a tablet. So if anybody, Apple in particular, goes down the road somewhere and says, and we've got this brand new form factor, it's beautiful. And Johnny Ive comes out and sings the songs. You can still go, dude, Samsung totally beat you to the to the line on that one. Like it's just just from the mobile iOS or the mobile OS wars standpoint. This is a great notch in the on the Samsung side, I think. Yeah, that was one of their one of their messages in the announcement today was, you know, a lot of people say you can't innovate in the phone space. Well, we disagree. Look, we can fold up a phone. Check it out. They also didn't really care about limiting screen time. Google and Apple spend a lot of time talking about limiting screen time in their recent announcements. Samsung didn't spend a moment on that. They're like, man, that's, you know, I guess that's something you can get out of Android if you want. That's not that's not our business. We want you to to buy our phones. And they did announce the Galaxy S 10. The S 10 has a six point one inch infinity display with an AMOLED screen, 16 million colors at 100 percent color volume supports HDR 10 plus very color accurate. The S 10 plus has a six point four inch display. Yeah, you know, you've got eight gigabytes of RAM. You can go up to 12 in the plus. You got an option for a terabyte in the plus. Otherwise, it's five hundred twelve gigabytes, thirty four hundred milliamp hour battery in the S 10, a forty one hundred milliamp hour battery in the plus. The S 10 starts at eight hundred ninety nine dollars pre-order tomorrow, February 21st, shipping March 8th, the S 10 plus. Same pre-order and shipping dates, February 21st and March 8th, starting at a thousand dollars. And both of these can charge other devices wirelessly. If you if you want to charge your Samsung earbuds, for instance, which we'll talk in a minute, you could just plop them on top. You have to turn it on in settings, but you can charge stuff. And both of them are Fido Alliance biometric component certification program certified. The first phone to feature certification from Fido. So that that's pretty cool. They also have Wi-Fi six, Max LTE, the theoretical two gigabit per second LTE. The Bixby button did not go away. And what's going to make a lot of you very happy is there are headphone jacks on all of these. Couple others before we get your impressions on this, there's a 5G version of S 10 coming first to Verizon and then eventually to Sprint as well as Vodafone and and Deutsche Telecom. That one will have a 4500 milliamp hour battery and 6.7 inch display. There's also the S 10 E, which loses the in-screen fingerprint sensor. Oh, did I mention the S 10 has an in-screen acoustic fingerprint sensor. So even with a wet finger, it'll unlock the S 10 E doesn't have that. Two rear cameras instead of three. That's another cool thing the S 10 has is the three rear cameras. But pretty much everything else that the S 10 has. And it starts at $750 with a full HD plus 5.8 inch display. Also pre-ordering February 21st, shipping March 8th. So really kind of the cool thing here with the S 10 is nice specs. As always, Samsung always maxes out the specs on its flagship price. Right in the middle, wireless. Yeah, wireless charging of other devices in-screen fingerprint reader with acoustic and like you say, the price between Google and Apple. Yeah. I mean, how do we feel about in general, the technology that lets me charge other devices? Like, I feel like that may be my favorite thing I heard today. This isn't like a new thing. I know that's been talked about and other products probably do this. And I just don't know it, but I love this idea of, oh, my watch is almost dead. I think it's a demo thing. I think in practice, you're going to be like, oh, my phone ran out of battery. I need to charge my phone. I don't want to use my phone to charge something else. Yeah. The Samsung Galaxy Buds. I don't know. The Galaxy Buds have.  Six hours for a charge of the Galaxy Buds, seven hours on the case. You tell me 13 hours of charge for the Samsung Galaxy Buds, which is going to run out faster, your phone or your earphones? Probably your phone. Yeah, I think I kind of agree. I mean, I just it's one of those technologies on the face of it. It gets me all jazzed up in natural views. You're probably totally right. I'm actually looking for more devices that would charge my phone for me. So I don't think Tom is wrong. Would it be cooler if we somebody would finally figure out that whole kinetic charging thing where I put it in my pocket and all the while? Oh, yeah, I'm looking forward to that, too. Like when someone does that right, I'm going to be stoked beyond measure. But this is a nice little thing. And I'm probably I think Tom's right, though. I hate when you're right, but you're right. I know I hate when you're right. I like it. And it's all right all the time. Yeah, you must be angry all the time when Tom is right. Oh, stop. I use an Android device. I use a Chrome OS device that uses Android apps. But but I don't I don't use it as my sole phone. Roger, you use Android as your sole phone. And I know these prices just make your eyes water. Yeah. So one of the reasons why I moved I went to Android was that there were more more manufacturers and you can get them at a lower price like my limit right now is around 450 for a new phone. I am really I am really curious, in fact, very interested about the S10. The triple camera set because I want to play with it to see if it's something that is compelling enough for me to kind of shell out, you know, the remaining, you know, 500 bucks to to to get one because it is it is such a high price. But at the same time, man, I like I really like having a good camera in my phone. It's the reason why I bought the S10 Galaxy S6 because at the time it was the best Android phone camera that that they had available and the and the screen with HDR10 plus, which is, you know, I'm I'm still trying to wrap my head around how useful that is in the day to day environment. But as an Android phone, especially as a flagship phone, it's pretty it's pretty nice. But again, because it's a flagship phone, it's also at the upper price point where my budget doesn't allow me to go. Yeah, I think the the the other thing that I think is impressive is that ultrasonic in-screen fingerprint sensor. That looks like it works great. We'll see in practice whether it works as good as it did on stage. But pretty amazing. And because it's ultrasonic, you know, works in a lot of situations that regular fingerprint readers don't. So pretty cool. All right, a couple of other things that Samsung announced before we wrap up their announcements, the Samsung Galaxy Buds that I just mentioned, $130 or bundled with the S10 and S10 plus, you'll be able to get them as well, I think, with the Galaxy Fold. You can get them in white, black or yellow, very compact. They're oblong, so it's hard to really compare them to the AirPods, but they're at least the same size, if not a little smaller than the AirPod case. Those are available March 8th. There's also the Galaxy Watch active with five atmospheres of water resistance that'll measure your blood pressure and your heart rate. Do auto tracking for exercises, some sleep tracking, wireless charging. You can drop that on top of your Galaxy S10 to charge. That's $200 come in March 8th with US pre-orders by March 7th, receiving a complimentary wireless charging pad. You can get those in silver, black, gold and see green. And the Galaxy Fit, which is going to make Fitbit really mad because they're calling it a Fit, but it's like a Fitbit. Water-resistant color AMOLED touch screen, weak long battery life. It does a lot of the heart rate checking, sleep tracking, etc. Auto tracking for exercises. That one's coming in Q2. No price. So wearables, folks. What's your favorite? These are cool and all, but I really am bugged about them calling it a Fit. Like, I just. Why? That was going to be the thing I said that was the least buggable about it. No, it totally bugs me because it's Samsung doing that thing they do where they just kind of sneak in other people's names and recognition. I'm not saying it's a full blown, like, you know, stab it. Fitbit or the Fit, they can't. Yeah, we have a Chevy S10 too. Why are they stealing that name? You know, I like the general umbrella of being fit is does not belong to any of these companies. No, but if you're Fitbit, you're going to hear some Samsung say, oh, it's called the Samsung fit. And by the way, profile wise, if you look at that thing, it looks the same. It's just like a. I think it's a little skeevy, just a little. It's not that big a deal. And I think fitness is great and they should focus on it. And all that stuff's true.  That's what and what would that be? I don't know, like a Samsung health. The Samsung new Hickey. I don't know, whatever it is. Samsung Galaxy. Hard rate. No, wait, that's a Microsoft made. Never mind. I just happened to be researching new cars. And one of them is the Honda fit. So listen, a lot of a lot of fits out there, a lot of fits. But there's no confusion, though. A car is a car and a risk thing. Anyway, I that's just I I I get where you're coming from. The watch active is fine. The fit is fine. If you really are living in the Samsung universe, these are great options for you. I don't know that they're terribly compelling over other options out there. The Galaxy Buds, on the other hand, I think those are competitive and kind of points to the fact that these sort of wireless earbuds that you stick in your your ears, like the ones Sarah is living with right now, the Jabra, what, 65 T's and the wave of the future. Well, and there, I mean, yeah, this this was actually the most exciting part of it for me, just because I'm I'm I'm currently living with the Jabra's and their price about the same. And I would be curious to put them head to head now that I know what I like about the Jabra's and what I don't my favorite. 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Also, not commonly brought up at the dinner table is how frequent and volume and type of bowel movements could be important and they could. So seems like a really smart idea to get where people universally seem happy to expose their skin already. Cameron, I was trying to make this point yesterday. Thank you for making it so much better than I did. It's true. Because I think one of the things we didn't quite get expressed is if you are in an assisted living or a nursing home situation, you may not be able to wear a sensor. You may chafe your skin. Totally. You may not fit properly, may fall off. There could be all kinds of reasons why. And so this would be a valuable supplementary source of data. Absolutely. Thank you, Cameron. Thank you for keeping us honest. And also thanks to Scott Johnson for being with us this fine hump day. Scott, what has been going on in your world? Well, I've been feeling a little more fit. Just kidding. That's true. I'm active. Driving your S10 around. Right. 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Shen Tung's Galaxy unfolds. It's my doctor's both those things my doctor said last time I had a physical. Let's get into the fold, Scott. And you said, oh, really? Really, doctor? Can't win for listening. The relation to the Google story. I feel like we have to do Samsung somehow. Yeah, I think, I think let's figure out the best fold. Pun, uh, Samsung Folds Teachers Origami. Folding at phone. Scott fears the yellow stain. No, we're not going to use that one because it just sounds different. As true as it is. It makes a lot of sense. I really like Samsung's Galaxy unfolds. I like it. I like that. Because it gets everything in there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't disagree at all. Well, good. OK, well, all right. It's in the dock for you, Roger, right there.  A freaking sandwich. Just because that sounds so good to me right now. Oh, it sounds great right now, doesn't it? You can hear me now. Oh, man, I want a sandwich. Just a big, Scott, what kind of sandwich would you get right now if you could get any sandwich in the whole world? The whole world. No, oh yeah, you're not a sandwich. You're eating a sandwich.  Yeah, Popbellies. I don't know if you guys have them in LA or not. I don't think so. I know Midwest has them, so maybe they're kind of moving that direction. Is it a pork store? No, it's like a full-on, just a fancy sandwich kind of place. But they're so good. You'll never have a better sandwich at a place. It's so good. But like, OK, but like, OK, give me more information. So at Popbellies, what kind of sandwich do you get? They have so many good ones, but they have this one called the Wreck that is roast beef. Like with the W with the Wreck? Like, you're wrecking yourself? Yeah, like, this is just a big old Wreck.  But the thing that makes it unique is these mushrooms and the way they grill them right before you do them. I'm weeping. I want to go. And they have breads in it. Oh, when I get skinny, you ask for it skinny and what they do is they take the same bread, whatever bread you get, and then they cut out, or they just carve out with their hand with a glove on it. They carve out all the fat bread in the middle. Independent tech news directly. Unboxed, if you could have my soul phone, giving a complimentary one. Greatest tip from our previous episode. Wow. I thought it was actually you saying a thing, and I'm like, wow, she is. Like it was kind of like, yeah, we kind of like went weird on, you know, sandwiches and just sort of. So wait, so the nearest one to us is in Arizona. Oh, man, sorry. Or Chandler, Arizona. That's too bad. First of all, I would never get the skinny. I just would never do that. I don't understand my people would. Got it. You save a couple hundred calories or something. Man, if I'm eating that, I'm not worried about calories. Somebody said they started in Chicago. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. They have apostellas in Chicago. Is that what you're trying to say, Sarah? I'm saying, look, Tom, when you were here last time. They like a good sandwich. They like a good sausage sandwich. I would get a Cuban sandwich right now. They have one there. You can get one at Pop Bellies. Really? Yeah, good one, too. You know what they have around Thanksgiving? They make a full Thanksgiving sandwich. It's got turkey, cranberry on it. No, stop it. That's so good. It's so good. Also, why does that have to be seasonal? Why can't we have that all year round? There was a place in Austin when I lived there. So this was in the 90s called Little City. It was a coffee shop with sandwiches. And they had a Thanksgiving sandwich available year round. That was what you're talking about, Scott. And every time I'd go there, I'd get the Thanksgiving sandwich no matter what time of year it was. That sounds great. And when you ate it, did it feel like it was things like they did it right? Yeah, they did. Like it had the spices and just enough cranberry that you weren't like, eh, the cranberry.  Hint, hint of cran. Yeah, yeah. Got it, yeah, yeah. It was delightful. And what's funny is I bought the Little City travel mug because I would go there all the time. It was on my bus route.  And Eileen uses that mug to this day. Like it was a lot. It was a well put together mug. I think I bought that thing in 1996. I love a good mug that lasts forever. Yeah. Like the detainee mug at the store. Do you have a lot of mugs that don't last forever? Well, you know, how they're pre-nate or something for everything. I guess travel mugs can last pretty well. Yeah. It's a good point, though. I'm not breaking mugs left and right or anything. Yeah. Well, speaking of cities, Bay Cities, which I introduced Roger and Tom too, last year at some point, I think it was last summer, does have one of the best submarine sandwiches you can get in this world. That sounds fantastic. And it's called the Godmother. Oh. I have taken. I know. And you're groaning and that is warranted because it is so good. It is every meat that's ever been known to man plus all the other things. Sounds great. That's the sandwich. Amen. It's delicious. That's why I like Cuban sandwiches or moofaletas. Yeah. Same idea.   Oh, that sounds good. Roger may remember the toaster oven, which was on 3rd Street in downtown San Francisco. Yeah. It was on 2nd, wasn't it? Down from Seenit? I just remembered. I kind of liked it, but I thought their prices were kind of like, man, I like it, but I don't like it that much. Oh, come on. The prices were like $7 or $8 for a sandwich. It was like 10 bucks by the time. What did you want it to be? $4.50. That's $4.50.  It was about the same price as the sandwich. I guess you. For like two, if I got like an entree. The sandwiches were huge. I think it's the same amount of food. Well, and also like, what do you want? Do you want a sandwich or do you want something else? Well, because you could go to Quizno and get the sandwich for $5, but you were going to Quizno's, right? You could go to the Indian restaurant and get the sandwich. Oh, Curry in a hurry. That place is great. Meful. Meful was like five bucks for every... Five events. Oh, Meval was good. Meval was good. $6.50, if you got the... There's always one dish and there was always six bucks, six something. Yeah, I never got that. And then you got a side of nine. Oh, that stuff was great. Yeah. I would sweat it out through the afternoon. I do half and half sometimes. You could actually ask for like, oh, I want half this dish, half of that. And they put it in the same bowl. It's great. I actually could go into... That sounds amazing. The reason I brought the toaster oven up was they had a pizza toasted sandwich that was amazing. I want my Indian pizza. I would eat that. Pizza sandwich down in... Isn't that just like a hot pocket? I don't know. That sounds good though. Hot pocket. It was like... What are you gonna eat? And then it was like nice thick toasted bread. So it was better than a hot pocket. Well, okay. But it was non, right? Oh, no. That's meffle. It was non. Oh, okay. I'm talking about the toaster oven had the pizza. Oh, non sounds good for a pizza sandwich though. No, it's great. I do love everything. Everything should be non. I do that. I buy like these...  I do too. I buy the same ones. Roger, I don't... Those things are awesome. I know. What you do is you put them in the microwave on a plate for like 10 seconds. They get soft and steamy. Anything can be eaten with them. Yes. I put them in the toaster oven. I put a little cheese and I put like chicken strips on it. The actual toaster oven. Not the restaurant. Right. Yeah, an actual kitchen appliance. Yeah. Indian pizza. That's what I miss most of all from San Francisco. I will say, okay. Since we're talking about non, there are certain things that don't totally work with non. For example, salsa. Oh, I don't know. No. It doesn't really work that well because I've tried. If you call it chutney and you make it with mango, it's awesome. No, I see where you're coming from. I see where you're coming from. No, no, no. You'll put some toastitos on your non and tell me if you like it. You won't. No, like those little non things they get from Costco, they're basically the chalupa shells at Taco Bell. So you can put anything in there. You know, I have put salsa. I have put not salsa pico de gallo. I think it just has to be savory in a certain way. Yeah. Otherwise, it's kind of weird or something. Other way, I think it's because it's up the water that is inherently. All right, all right. I just I have to bring us back to the toaster of again. I'm sorry. I found their menu. They're out of business, but I found a cash menu. The pizano was the pizza sandwich, pepperoni, mushrooms, marinara sauce and provolone cheese. Dream life for five dollars and thirty nine cents. I'm ready. Oh, why is it thirty nine cents? Never mind. No one cares. No, I Roger and make him think of his two.  I also would get the kitchen sink, which was roast beef, turkey, salami, ham and provolone. Sounds great. That sounds like the wreck. That might be closer to what the wreck is. Any of their sandwiches came with mayonnaise, mustard, hot peppers, lettuce, tomato, onion, pickles or an extra seventy five cents for avocado. Also, I know we've talked about this at nauseam, but people who don't put mayonnaise on sandwiches are only hurting themselves. That's me. And well, OK. So I'm hurting myself. I'm hurting myself, but I enjoy eating it that way. It I agree. I like it.  No, I just I just feel sorry for you. No, the thing is when I get a sandwich, I always get a side and Tom is trying to show us with this pizza. I've changed. I've just transformed into the kitchen sink. What I get with what I get is a side is always potato salad. So for me, I already have mayo, so I don't need to have that message. Oh, God, Roger, I just don't really like mayonnaise. Listen, mayonnaise is your friend. If you want to eat potato salad, that's on you. But it doesn't. I don't know. Potato salad, more I need more carbs. I need just tons of mustard. I will bring out the helmets. Oh, yeah. The helmets don't even I'm on bull. I got hands on here. I'm with Sarah. I'm with Tom on the helmets. I like it all. Just put it all on. No, don't. Yeah, there's this goes so many levels deep. I will say, OK, so I don't like a potato salad, but I love macaroni salad. And you don't love no wonder. No wonder you react the way that you do. You're missing out a good chunk of your life. I don't I don't like potatoes. This is a true thing. We've talked about that. Yes, we are like potatoes. We are mostly anti potato on this show. Yeah, even though we're both the two. But I like macaroni salad, which is also male heavy. Is it because we have Irish backgrounds that we're anti potato? Because of what it we may be sort of. Yeah, it's probably because you had a heavy potato. You know, some of the worst things that happened. Whereas I did not. Like when I was going to read that potatoes, we have a lot of time, but I still like them. I think Tom might be on to something. You guys just remember the blight in utero. Angry at potato potatoes are at Englishman's plot. I I I rail against potatoes. But I understand that that is a rage. Rage, right? I'm throwing up a spud. Right.  I also love tater tots. Do you like tater tot, though? I don't like French fries, but I love tater tots. No, OK, so French fries, absolute nonsense. Tater tots, same. But what about like? I love French fries. No, no, get rid of potatoes. Like, what about jalapeno poppers? Oh, I think the same idea. So good. I mean, if they're the ones from Chile, don't they fill it with cheese, which makes it kind of fried cheese? It's just gross.  Yeah, yeah. That's a good point. Because I could just drink cheese and it would be as fatty. You can dip it. This is the thing. When I see fried hors d'oeuvres, like appetizers, whether it's chilies, TGIS or whatever, all I think of is acne, because that's that's just. You think of acne? Yeah, yes. Oh, because there's some. There's some forgotten teen back there making a minimum wage, sloppin' out the stuff. So it's not that it causes acne. It's that it's. Well, no, it does. I mean, that's the whole thing about acne.  And yeah, if you work food service, that's the deep fryer is the worst thing about working in a restaurant. I don't think so. I think the people are the worst thing about working in a restaurant. Absolutely. Customers, that's the worst. Hey, but we love our customers at Daily Tech News Show. So thank you for watching our video. We appreciate it. Please tell your friends, like and subscribe. Audio folks, stick around. There's more to come.


If this thing starts confirming down the five day moving average, nobody's going to care about the $10 billion buyback that we've made. Welcome to Access a Trader, the number one community for those who are committed to taking control of their trading in order to achieve success, profitability, and longevity. Thank you for joining us. Here's Dan Shapiro to help you find your edge, master your process, and own your future. Hey guys, good evening everybody. Welcome to another edition of the AccessaTrader.com Nightly Wrap-Up Show. Hope everybody's doing well. Hope everybody had a good trading session. Same narrative, right? You know, we go lower, right? We're going lower. If you look at the queues here, we're right on the February 24 lows. It's kind of where we stopped today. If you look at the indexes, really nothing has changed. The Dow today was flat. If you want to keep score, it was actually up one point. You had the Nasdaq down 2% after 3.5% decline last week despite one day that the Nasdaq was up 500 points. It really does show you the selling pressure. You had the names, right? You had the names that were big leaders and it really does show you the difference between a sell-bias market and a bull-bias market. If Amazon would have announced, for example, the 24-1 split right over here, right? I call it maybe November, right? Maybe December. Amazon would have been at $4,000 a share, but it announced in a bear market and again, the theory of the bear market is nobody cares how good the company is. Nobody cares how good any company is. It's always shoot first, ask questions later. It doesn't make a difference and this one is pretty much taking the same route as Google did with the 24-1 stock split. If you saw what Google did after they announced the 24-1 stock split, the stock literally went from 30-30 all the way down to 25-100, which is setting up another channel here for the next couple of days, but that's kind of what Amazon is doing as well, right? You got the announcement of the 24-1 stock split. It closed on the 5-day and watch Amazon tomorrow. This thing starts confirming down the 5-day moving average. Nobody's going to care about the $10 billion buyback. Again, with the markets already telling you, nobody's really caring about the 24-1 split. It's back down to the bottom of the range here and that kind of goes with the same thing with every single stock. Nothing is safe. No matter how good the company is, here's one side of the equation, Amazon and Google, two absolute monsters and here's the other equation. A name like an AMC, which is a name like a GameStop that we talked about for the last couple of days that really imploded today and looks like more downside ahead. It really doesn't make a difference. Bad, good, indifferent, balance sheet, good, balance sheet, bad. Everything is being sold and again, if you've been watching this broadcast for a long time, a lot of you guys again have not traded in a bear market. This has been two months, imagine two, three years of this and that's exactly what we saw from 201 to 203 and from 207 to 209. That's kind of where it is. Our goal right now is just to find names that are not at the lows and just drifting every single day. Our goal every single day is to find names that are coming out of the daily channel. They're not at the lows yet, but they're ready to challenge. So again, for example, we talked about Adobe over the weekend, right? We talked about Adobe over the weekend. What else did we talk about over the weekend that I shared with you guys? GameStop, obviously, DOCS, right? We talked about DOCS over the weekend. It's the same kind of chart, right? It's not at the lows, but it's coming out of a big distribution usually below a rising support in this case, both the Bollinger Band and the 50-day moving average. And now it's finally going back down to the bottom of the range and that's kind of a challenge right now because the market has been kind of on sell mode for the last couple of months. It's very easy to look at a name like Zoom and be like, well, this thing is going lower. It's been going lower, right? You see how small these channels are? You see how small the candles are? It's basically a linear fade. What you're looking for is range, right? Like Tesla, for example. And again, we'll get to the individual pivots today. Broke a big, big number today that we discussed for a pretty decent amount of time. But you need a stock that's coming out of range, right? Maybe two, three weeks of range. And here you've got the bottom in sight. So that's kind of our challenge going into every single day. Not everything now is at a very, very good position. Stocks continue to go lower. Sure. They're going to go lower until there is an absolute seller strike, right? And again, that's very, very tough to do because kind of what we're in the middle of. But that's what it is. When bad headlines get embraced, when bad headlines get pushed to the side, that's where we're going to start putting in a roundabout bottom. As of right now, it's kind of business as usual if you are sell biased in the market. So that's it. Again, going into tomorrow, again, you have to have a sell bias attitude. You have to have a sell bias game plan, just like that we did going into today's session. You know, naive to believe that the markets are going to go straight down. No, of course not. We talked about this every single day.   Every gap up is being sold into supply where you potentially could have a dead cat bounce on any given day is if we do gap down to three, four, 500 points. That's where we've been seeing. If you look at the cues, the majority of times that we've had these kind of dead cat bounces started with a washout, right? With a washout trapped early shorts and then we went higher. So we're always conscious of looking at that. The last thing we want to do again is be naive that this can't happen. Again, the worst markets in the world have very, very aggressive and very, very exaggerated bounces, whether it's intraday or a couple of days range. We just want to be conscious that does happen. So you're not shorting into strength, especially if they get caught at the morning session. That's it. I mean, that's the game plan. So that is the game plan going into tomorrow. And let's talk about some ideas that I do like. I really like this ISRG for tomorrow. Here's another perfect example of a stock coming at the bottom of the range here, right? Excuse me, at the bottom of this range here that lasted for about several weeks, but you could tell it's not at the bottom yet. So if it confirms this whole channel here, let me look at the coming room, you have to go. I mean, look at a name like L-I-T-E. Again, usually not a name that I'd be very, very interested in. But again, look, look at the bottom range here. Look where it stopped. This thing starts taking out this bottom range here. Hey, again, look how much room it has. Look at Tesla, right? We talked about Tesla for a couple of weeks on this bottom channel. This is the closest close in this whole formation. And the only reason why it stopped is it's right out on its daily Bollinger Band. This Bollinger Band gets confirmed. Look at the low here, right? Look at which room you have back down to the low. So there's definitely names that I'm watching, continue to watch, especially on a day-to-day basis on the upside. I'm not really, even today, we went green in the day. We're up like 30, 40 handles today on the NASDAQ. And I was like, yeah, I have no interest. I have zero, zero interest. Every time there's an uptake, people think this is the bottom of the market. It's not. Again, we talked about scenarios how it will be the bottom of the market. The problem is it's not a one-day event. It's usually a multi-week bottoming out process. But at least the bulls needed to give us some sort of signs that there is some sort of seller strike for that to kind of play itself out. So let's talk about the pivots today. Very aggressive session to start the day. And of course, this is the one, obviously, I didn't talk about this on the weekend update. Somebody's asked, well, how about Tesla? You don't like any Tesla? Yeah, of course I like Tesla. But again, this is a big number here. 7.82 is a monster support. I put this out at 7.30 in the morning, man. This is a big, big number. It held twice if it builds below, can flush. This was definitely the move of the day. Definitely the trade of the day here. 7.82 went all the way down into the 750s. This thing confirms 750s, guys. Look how much room you have down to the February 24th low. Beautiful move there. Really, really beautiful move. Great flush on Friday, overstock. 44.50, 44 if it builds below, can flush. Overstock continues to get hit, right? Here it broke down on Friday, 48.70s. It took out that 44.5 today. Went all the way down to 42. Again, I still think this thing drifts all the way back down to this 38 level. So if it starts taking out 42, I mean, you still have about $4 or $5 worth of premium back to the downside. GameStop got just smashed, just absolutely smashed. Here is the pivot on Friday, 98 and 96 if it builds below, can flush. Today was the continuation, 92.50, 92. If it builds below, can flush more. Yeah, I mean, GameStop got hit, right? Here is the 98.96, and it took out the 92.50. And then today, it took out the 86 and stock closed all the way down to 78. Phenomenal move, absolutely phenomenal move. Congratulations for all you guys who are still holding a runner on that. We talked about DOCS on the weekend update, 46 if it builds below, can flush. Here was DOCS, right? Took out the 46, traded all the way down to 40. I still think there's a couple of more bucks left in this stock before it reaches its linear regression line. Adobe, we discussed this thing on the weekend update as well. 415, if it builds below, can flush. Here was Adobe, right? So it took out the 415, traded all the way down to 407. You know, keep watching this thing for tomorrow. If it confirms 407, I think this thing goes lower, assuming the market does as well. On NVIDIA 218, if it builds below, can flush. Here's NVIDIA. You see, it's the same thing pretty much every day. They're just, you know, they're just breaking channels, confirming the next day it going lower. So here's the 4218, 80, went all the way down to 211. I think if this thing confirms 211 tomorrow, there's a shot it could see the bottom of the range here, which is roughly, you know, 208, 206, and any close under 206 in the video. This thing could get really, really hit, assuming the market goes lower. I didn't pay attention to the checkpoint today, so I apologize. We're literally gonna be looking at this thing at the same time. 3350, 133, if it builds below, can flush. Let's see what Checkpoint did today. I just wasn't watching it. Checkpoint, it looks like it took out 33, went down to, nothing, it looks like it went down to 32, and then reversed, not really reversal, but again, it really didn't do anything. Tesla just got murdered. 760s went down to 754, phenomenal.  What are the dynamic things we could call Tesla? Just the greatest stock ever. Both sides of the market. Here comes GameStop. Here comes 86 on deck. Closed at 78, just absolute destruction there. Docks went to 40. Here comes 406, trade to 408. GameStop just shelled. And that's it, right? And that's it. So business as usual. Again, guys, my opinion doesn't count. Your opinion doesn't count. It doesn't make a difference if you're wrong theoretically. If you're preparing on one side of the market and it goes back the other way, just don't, again, it's okay to be wrong. We're wrong every single day. Just do not be wrong financially. Don't be pigheaded. Don't anticipate. You know, wait for the confirmation and let your game plan play out. And if the market doesn't tell you that your game plan is getting out, don't just switch gears very quickly back to the upside.  Just wait for your process and wait for everything to confirm back. It might not confirm tomorrow. They might have a dead cat bounce but the overall action continues to be sell bias until we have a tangible reason that it's not. Guys, have a great night. God bless and I'll see you all tomorrow.


SNES DRUG! One reason I stubbornly stick to reviewing original Game Boy games is because of games like FACEBALL 2000. I love that the Game Boy's inherent limitations were just brushed aside by these developers like, we want you guys to create a port for a 3D first person shooter maze game, but for frickin' Game Boy. And the guys who made this game just shrugged their shoulders and said, sure, okay. That's right, FACEBALL 2000 is 3D gameplay with real polygons, it's just, wow. And even better, when you get to certain areas and the frame rate starts to slow, you can almost literally feel the Game Boy sweating as it tries so hard to make this game work, and I just can't help but smile and cheer it on. So is FACEBALL 2000 any good? Well, it was back then. It was the only portable game of its kind, but now, eh, probably not so much, outside of being an interesting artifact. There's two game modes, cyberspace and arena. Cyberspace is the single player mode, where there's up to 59 mazes. You zap everything in your path and find the exit. The gameplay is simple and able to be picked up instantly, however a strafe option would have been nice to have. As you might imagine, this game gets kind of tedious after a while, since there's barely any variety in the basic gameplay. The mazes get insane, and just about impossible after a while, and like I said, the frame rate struggles big time when you have multiple enemies on the screen. There's also an arena mode, or multiplayer mode, which had to have been a freaking blast to play at the time. You can support up to 16 players if you daisy chain the 4 player adapter. That is absolutely awesome, and I so wish I could've been part of one of those back then. But now, can you name two people that you know that still have their original Game Boy? Cause I can't. Yeah, sadly there's just no way this game holds up today, because the big appeal wasn't just the novelty of a portable first person shooter, but that it was actually multiplayer. But uh, good luck getting together with people to play this with. Anyway, like I briefly mentioned earlier, Facebook 2000 is actually a port of MIDI maze, a game made for the Atari ST computer back in 1987. In addition, and I did not know this, they also made a port for the Super Nintendo, and yeah, it's pretty much the same game. It just looks how you'd expect it would on a 16 bit system. Not much to write home about, and it's only a two player game at most. It might have been a worthwhile pick up today if it were 4 player compatible. Anyway, yeah, as much as I want a root for the little game that could, Facebook 2000 just isn't worth picking up today. I love the ingenuity behind the visual design, and just the fact that this game just works somehow on a Game Boy, it makes me smile, I don't know. So while it's obviously outdated, it's still an interesting piece of gaming history.


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Hello everyone, and thank you for taking some time off to listen to me talk about Trove OpenStack and what we have planned in Kilo. Just to give you a short introduction about myself, my name is Nikhil Manjanda, and I'm the PTL for OpenStack Trove for Kilo. And so we're just going to go through a short discussion on what Trove is, what we achieved in the Juno milestone, and what we're planning in the Kilo milestone. So let's get started. Next slide please. So I thought to kick off the discussion about Trove, I'd talk a little bit about what Trove is, I'll just give you guys a brief overview and what better way to start that than to reiterate the mission statement of Trove. So our mission statement basically states to provide scalable and reliable cloud databases as a service provisioning functionality for both relational and non-relational database engines, and to continue to improve the fully featured and extensible open source framework. I'll touch upon a few key salient points. That I've sort of highlighted in the slides, but overall Trove is a set of OpenStack services that lets you make API calls to the cloud and let you provision different data stores of different types, and also lets you manage those instances of those data stores that you provisioned so that through the lifecycle of the instance it makes it easier for you to work with them. So a few things that I do want to call out, Trove specifically does provisioning. It does not get into the business of into the data plane at all. So if you once the instance of that particular data store type is provisioned, your application can then talk to that particular instance using the data channel that that particular data store supports. So if you were using MyTequal for example, you would then use just MyTequal over port 3306 to talk to that particular instance. So where Trove comes in, it helps you provision that particular MyTequal instance, set up replication for example, do backups, restores, and manage the lifecycle of that instance. I do also want to call out that Trove supports both relational and non-relational database engines, provisioning both of them. So there is support in Trove for MyTequal and PostgreSQL for the relational side of things. And then we've also added support for MongoDB, Cassandra, and Couchbase. So we do also support those non-relational databases. We're also completely extensible in open source. We're an integrated open stack project and we are built on top of other open stack projects. So when you make a call to the Trove APIs we rely on open stack compute, NOVA being able to provision the actual compute VMs, open stack sender for block storage, open stack switch for object storage for the backups and so on and so forth. So just wanted to talk a little bit about Trove in Juno and give you guys an overview. Juno was a very successful milestone for us. We had a lot of new contributors contributing code. We had 322 different commits from 71 contributors. We were able to implement about 30 blueprints and fixed about 200 bugs. Lots and lots of code reviews thanks to all the folks in Trove who helped with the code reviews. And there were about 66,168 total lines of code changed. If you're interested in getting more details on the statistics there's a couple of links there that you can look at. And if you're interested in pulling the Juno release and looking into what exactly went into the Juno release in terms of bugs and blueprints you can visit the Launchpad page and you can get as detailed as you want to get about that. So without going into the details though I do want to give folks a little bit of an overview of all the things that we accomplished in Juno and of those things what we're still continuing to build on and work on in Kilo. So I'm going to talk a bit about that. One of the big things that we accomplished in Juno was support for Neutron. Before Juno Trove only supported working on Nova Networking so we added support for Neutron. So now when Trove actually spins up the Nova Compute instance underneath it supports the ability to pass through NICs using network IDs or ports to Nova. And then Trove also supports creating security groups. So we've added Neutron support for those as well. So once your database instance is created Trove will now talk to Neutron and set up the appropriate security groups. And when you want to change those security groups to allow or disallow certain ranges of IPs to connect to your database instance Trove will talk to Neutron to do that going from Juno if you have Neutron enabled in your environment. As part of the Neutron support what we also did was we made sure that we made the relevant horizon enhancements in the Trove dashboard so that if Neutron was enabled and you were trying to create a Trove instance it gives you the option to select which network you want your instance to be on or what ports you want to be attached to your instance. So sort of enabled Neutron support through the system so through the backend, through the Python Trove client and through the horizon dashboard as well. We also in Juno added support for replication for MySQL and this was basically in the form of asynchronous MySQL master slave replication on creation. So when you create your new Trove instance you can specify that another Trove instance that was newly created or that's an existing Trove instance should be set up as a master and this instance that you're just creating should be set up as a slave and so once you make that API call Trove will take care of creating the replication account and setting up replication between the master and the slave. As part of this work item we also made sure that there was some ability for you to detach a slave from the master and cut off this replication in case say the master was down or for whatever reason you wanted to detach the slave and promote it to its own master you're able to do that. So this is something that we were working on or had talked about working on pre-Juno and going forward to Kilo we're continuing to make this more stable and I'll talk a bit more about that when we reach our Kilo slides as well. We also added support for clustered Trove instances in Juno. We have a new clustering API and our initial implementation is support for a MongoDB cluster. The new clustering API we had a discussion during the end of Icehouse and during the Juno Summit and sort of got very good feedback from users and operators and decided to implement that in Juno so we now have the ability to spin up a MongoDB cluster and as part of this MongoDB cluster not only do we spin up MongoDB nodes that are part of a replica set but we also spin up a query router and a config server. So basically what that gives us is we can do high availability through the replica sets and we're also available to grow horizontally by adding new shards to your MongoDB cluster. Of course when you provision the cluster you get back an IP, a couple of IPs to talk to your cluster and this is configurable and those are the IPs of the query routers so you talk to them and the query routers figure out which shard it actually needs to go talk to and so all of that is transparent to you and your application just needs those IPs to talk to the cluster. In Juno we added some enhancements for configuration groups. We added default configuration templates on a per data store and version basis so that you could now add different templates if you were deploying a different version of your data store. Where this gets interesting is say for example you wanted to deploy both MySQL 5.5 and 5.6 in your environment and your configuration template that you have for MySQL 5.6 needs to be different so Trove not allowed you to do that before we only allowed you to deploy those configuration templates on a per data store basis but now you can pick them up even on a per version basis. You could also do configuration groups so this is a feature that we enabled in Nice House where you are able to override that default configuration in templates through the API programmatically by specifying configuration parameters and grouping them and targeting those groups to certain instances. So you are able to target those parameters to those instances on a per data store and per version level as well. We also tightened up the validation for the values for those configuration parameters. So those are now backed by a schema which tells it things like what the min value for the parameter is or what the max value for the parameter is so that when users try to override their values there is at least some sort of basic error checking that goes on there so that users are not shooting themselves in the foot by specifying a value that doesn't make sense for that parameter. We also had some data store improvements. We added initial support for post grids and also backup and restore for couch base. And this is something that we are sort of trying to do on a more frequent sort of basis where we sort of figure out where the holes lie for different data stores and try to pass them up and make them so that we have backup and restore for not just MySQL or not just couch base or so on and so forth. So this has been an ongoing sort of effort intro and I will talk to where we are trying to keep that effort going even through Kilo as we progress. So that was some of the work that we got accomplished in Juneau. I want to talk about some of the work that we are looking forward to in Kilo and some of the upcoming features and differences or focuses for Kilo. One thing that I do want to mention is that in Kilo's trove is moving to the whole spec process like a lot of other OpenSlide projects as well. In Juneau we did our Blueprints through Wiki pages and we found out that was getting really hard and cumbersome. We were having problems doing reviews just because Wiki pages were really hard to annotate and sort of go back and track changes who said what, when, who made a change to the Wiki page based on that comment, things like that. And the other reason we decided to switch as well was because using Wiki pages it was really hard to get feedback from ops and users. We found that a lot of that feedback was happening through email and mechanisms outside of the Wiki page which meant that everyone reviewing the Wiki page didn't really have the entire context of what was going on. So like a lot of other OpenSlide projects we decided to move to doing specs using the same code review process that we used for reviewing code using Garrett. And so there's just another repository for specs called TroveSpecs exactly where you'd expected. And in order to propose a new spec you make a proposal of Garrett Patzett with the information in your spec in a particular format and the template for that particular format is in the TroveSpec repo so it's easily available and you can take a look at it. If you want more information about this spec lifecycle and how projects are using it there's a Wiki page and you can click on that for more information. So out of the way I wanted to talk about what exactly we're concentrating on in Kilo. I mentioned this briefly we're going ahead with the plan that we had for data stores and marching down the path and making improvements to existing data stores that we already have and adding other newer data stores. So we're looking at adding initial implementation of at least a couple of other new data stores. We're looking at adding CouchDB and Vernica. We're looking at incremental improvements for existing data stores. I know there's folks working on trying to get back up and restore for Mongrel and a few other pieces so that say for example Postgres support would be to the same level as MySQL support. We're also looking to add an API to be able to fetch data store specific logs from instances where this becomes really interesting and important is that users run specific queries on their data stores and say something goes bad. Users now need to have a programmatic way of figuring out what went wrong and since they don't have in most scenarios don't have actual SSH access to the instance the only way of figuring that out is through the API. So the idea here being that they'd be able to get certain contents of those data store logs. Of course this would be specified and allowed by the operator such as the MySQL error log or the slow query log through programmatically through the Trove API. So they'd make an API call and they'd get part of the log back either as a response we're still trying to figure out the exact details whether that part of the log will be copied to Swift that they can download or whether there's pieces of that log that would be streamed back as part of the response body. But it's something that we're looking at doing. We're also looking at building on the replication scenarios that we enabled in Juno. We're going to add Horizon support for replication where you'd be able to create a new instance and specify that it's a replica of the previous one and detach the replica. So in Juno we added support for that but that was just through the Trove clients and now we're just going to close the loop and add Horizon support for that as well. We're also looking at improving replication based on global transaction IDs. This is a new feature in MySQL 5.6 and as we're adding MySQL 5.6 to the list of supported data stores this is something that we're looking into to improve the async replication that we already have. We're also looking to add support for failover. So GTIDs do give you a bit more of an enhanced story when it comes to failover and Trove has a method through Trove heartbeats where we can monitor what the state of your data store is. So we're looking to see how we can leverage that heartbeat information that we have to failover from a master instance to a slave instance for example or give you the tools so that you'd be able to set up that failover based on certain timeouts that are configurable for your particular deployment of Trove. We're also looking to build out the clustering support that we added. We added the clustering API and we have support for longer DV but there are folks interested in adding clustering support for other data stores out there. I know people, I know certain folks currently are working on talking through the design of how we'd add Cassandra clusters to Trove. Also how we'd add Vertica clusters to Trove and a lot of folks are interested in adding Galera support for clustering to Trove as well through extra DV cluster. So that's sort of some of the new features that we're looking at enabling in Kilo. Apart from that there's a lot of housekeeping work and paying off technical debt that we want to accomplish and get done in Kilo. Some of it were pretty strong and already well off, well on the way to accomplish. We've removed the third-party external deprecated Trove CI. So this was a third-party CI system that would run the Trove integration test and the functional test but it was not done in the same manner that the opens back in for a CI system was running the Infor test for a lot of the other projects. The reason for this is it basically was set up before a lot of those Infor building blocks were in place but not that the Infor building blocks are in place. We've gone ahead and gotten rid of that deprecated Trove CI and all of our functional and in-tests are running in the DevStack VM gate environment fully under opens back in for us. We're also working on cleaning out a lot of the deprecated Oslo incubator codes that exist in the Trove code base and moving to the actual graduated Oslo modules. So an example of that would be switching to Oslo messaging for RPC calls between the Trove components instead of using just the common code from Oslo incubator that exists in Trove today. Oslo messaging is just an example of one of those. There's a lot of other Oslo incubator modules that we need to switch to using the Oslo graduated modules for. This is still ongoing work and I think while we can accomplish a big chunk of it in Qo it's one of those things that we have to be vigilant of staying on the ball and making sure that we're always keeping on top of the changes going on in Oslo. Another effort that we're making in Qo to get better with some of the technical depth that we have is adding initial support for upgrade testing using Grenade. So a lot of you might be familiar with Grenade already. It's opens back tool that we have that lets us basically run DevStack for a previous release. Then use the Jatlin provision resources, go ahead, upgrade DevStack to a new release and then test and make sure that the resources that were provisioned in the previous version still continue to work as expected in the newer version. So we're working through adding support for Trove to Grenade and making sure that we have good upgrade tests for Trove using Grenade as well. One more thing that we're concentrating on is simplifying some of the ops for Trove. I had a lot of good conversations with ops folks and users at the Qo Summit and one of the constant pieces of feedback, consistent pieces of feedback that I heard from them is that it's hard to build Trove guest images today. So we're working on an easier way to build those Trove guest images up and essentially the only way to do that today or one of the ways to do that today is using some of the older scripts, the RedStack scripts when Trove existed as RedDwarf before which is a bit convoluted and difficult to parse and understand. So we're working on not having to use RedStack to do this and having a standalone way to just build the Trove guest images without breaking into all of the beast that is RedStack. So also working on getting documentation improvements going, not just for image building but also for deploying Trove, getting a better set of instructions out there that will help folks give them an easier way, perhaps to deploy Trove and also better documentation for getting started with Trove development. So that's some of the fixes that we're working on from a documentation perspective. And that's not all. We're a growing community. We're open to ideas. And there's a lot of room for improvement. Frankly, there's always room for improvement. So if you have ideas, please find us. You can find us at OpenStack Trove on FreeNode, on IRC, and just shoot someone a message. And there's always new folks joining. And folks are very friendly on the IRC room or very receptive to feedback. So drop us a line and say hi. Even if you don't have an idea right now, just want to say hi. You're welcome. Please come over and say hi. So we're still growing. And the Trove project is growing as well. So we're really receptive to new ideas. So please come along. Bye. If you have any questions specifically, you're always free to contact me. You can reach me through IRC, Twitter, Gmail. All of those handles are the same. So Flicknick on IRC, at Flicknick on Twitter, and Flicknick at Gmail.com. So feel free to shoot me a message. You can contact me in any way. And I'm looking forward to hearing from you. And I hope this presentation and these slides were useful and informative. And you gave you a good or better idea of what Trove is and where Trove is going over the next six months in the kilo timeframe. Thanks for watching.