First of all, my name's Heather Richmond. I'm an associate over at SNR Denton, which is a law firm. I'm actually a public policy specialist. More on that, never. But I am very pleased to introduce and have with us Nancy McFadden. You were sitting because she has a broken foot. I first met her cycling, so I assumed it was from cycling. But she did just spend his budget negotiations. So you never know what really went down. But I just wanted to quickly introduce Nancy. And before I do that, thank her for her years of public service, both to the state of California and to our great nation at the federal level. Nancy is the executive secretary for legislation, appointments, and policy in the office of Governor Brown. She was senior vice president at PG&E from 2005 to 2010. Previously, Nancy served as senior advisor to Governor Gray Davis from 01 to 03, deputy chief of staff for the office of Vice President Gore in the early 2000s, and general counsel for the US Department of Transportation before that. She's a very, very native with the JD from UVA and a bachelor's from San Jose State University. So if you'd join me in welcoming Nancy, she's going to give us a few words ahead of time on kind of the budget and a view from her position. And then I'll be asking her a couple questions to get the ball rolling. But please be one to open it up for as much time as possible to have you ask your questions. So please join me in welcoming Nancy McFadden. Thank you. Thanks. Great. Thank you, Heather. And can you all hear me OK? Great. And I do apologize for the kind of informal setting here, but it's a lot easier with this big, big cast and boot on my foot. And I'm looking at Secretary Schultz, and I must tell him and the rest of the audience that I'm honored to be here and feel a little humbled to be speaking in a group in which you, sir, are sitting in the audience, though I know we're going to hear from you later. But I'll relieve one of the questions and tell you that I broke my foot in service in the governor's office, crossing a courtyard in which our previous governor, Governor Schwarzenegger, had a smoking tent, which I know Secretary Schultz was in many times advising our former governor. But when the smoking tent was taken down, the steel spikes that fastened the smoking tent to the ground were not. And they were sort of hidden in the astroturf that's there now. And that's how I broke my foot. Governor Brown wants to take the astroturf out and put a Zen sand garden in the courtyard. In any case, I really do appreciate being here. Heather, thank you for the very nice introduction. And to Jim Sweeney and all the organizers of this, I congratulate you. It's always a very impressive conference when you look at the lineup and you have two remarkable former cabinet secretaries, a US senator and so many of you in the audience who are experts in your own field. You know that this is an impressive lineup and an impressive audience. And I can honestly say that all of you know more about the topics at hand than me. So I'm going to start to, I'm just going to give a brief overview from the vantage point of serving in Governor Brown's administration. And by doing that, I must start not with energy, but with the budget because we have been laser focused and the governor certainly has on trying to write the fiscal ship of our great state. And I can say that I'm very glad I'm here because that means that we have assigned budget ahead of the start of the fiscal year, which is July 1st. It is a budget that continues the work that we started when Governor Brown took office two years ago. We now have two straight budgets in which we have been reducing the deficit that we started with, which was about $26 billion. The budget that the governor signed Wednesday night resolves the budget deficit and sets us on a course for balanced budgets for the ongoing years. And it's really the first time in a decade that we have a plan and a budget that keeps our spending within our revenues. Now, our budget has tough cuts in it. And you may have heard about a lot of them. We're cutting lots of programs in the state. In 2007 and 2008, our general fund was $103 billion. The budget that the governor signed has a general fund of $91 billion. So folks who tell you that we're not cutting state spending aren't looking at the facts of what's happening in terms of cuts to welfare, to childcare, unfortunately, to our universities and our schools, and all state programs across the board. The state budget does depend upon a tax initiative that will be on the November ballot. And if that fails, we'll have to cut more. And those cuts will unfortunately fall largely on education because that's the biggest part of our budget. It's been tough work. And the governor has really been focused on this. And some might say, uncharacteristic Jerry Brown style, laser focused, and really has devoted much of the time of his first two years in office to trying to battle this deficit problem that has plagued the state for a long, long time. And when I look at this audience, I think how much better it would be for all of us if we could write this fiscal ship and unleash the creativity and the skill that the governor has on all of the other issues that confront the state. Because if he can do what he has done with the budget, with other areas, we are going to continue to have the great state that we know we have, though it's certainly seeing challenges. So that's sort of a capstone, just a real quick summation of where we are on the budget. And it's work that never ends. We've got to continue to make sure that we implement the cuts that we've enacted in this budget. And we're going to work to see that we get responsible revenues hopefully when we hit the fall. Turning to energy, I thought that I would read something that was a transcript of a question and answer that the governor engaged in to just set the stage for his thinking on energy policy. And this is a transcript of a question and answer. It wasn't a prepared speech, although as most of you who know Jerry Brown knows, he doesn't actually give prepared speeches, but he is one of the better extemporaneous speakers in our country today. This was his answer about energy policy. The better part of wisdom today is to invest in alternative technologies and conservation and provide the kind of diversified energy base that we need. In the short term, conservation is the only option that will yield significant dividends. Along with conservation, we must have investment. And I'll give you a couple of examples. Our solar program is woefully underfunded. Geothermal, another area to develop energy from hot rocks, putting water down on hot rocks, creating a recycling geothermal system. That's something that we need to. The liquid fuels that will be needed, the photovoltaic cells, the electric car, rapid transit, insulation of homes. We're talking about huge capital investment. In order to do that, the tremendous squeezing of existing programs will take place at all levels of government, because we need to mobilize capital both public and private. That's very high on the agenda. An energy program, energy conservation, new supply, major leadership role for our state and for the federal government. Excuse me. I am saying it's going to have to be alternative energy programs that don't put all of our eggs in one basket. That's what the governor said about energy policy in June of 1979. So along with our former governor, Governor Schwarzenegger, who really put a premium on focusing on energy policy and particularly renewable energy, we now have a governor that continues that work at a very high premium. And I think, Heather, I know you want to get to questions and answers. I thought maybe I would just highlight a few things in terms of where we are in the state. Again, all of you are the experts. You know the details. You know these things better than me. But I thought I'd just quickly give an overview. The budget we just signed, by the way, did have some energy policy in it. And one of the things that it had in it is that it had some provisions that allow the new solar homes partnership program to continue. That was in the budget. That's a program of rebates for PV on energy-efficient homes. We've through, I think, 2011, we've had about 4,500 new systems funded with the budget signed Wednesday night. That program will continue. You know that this state has an ambitious renewable energy goal of 33%. And we are clearly on pace to meet that, if not exceed it. And I know we've got utility representatives and so many people here that know about the hard work that's gone into meeting that goal and exceeding it. Since 2010, state government has permitted over 16,000 megawatts of renewable energy in California. And we're continuing to focus on permitting and doing the kinds of things that will actually make sure that the programs that so many of you envision in your minds become a reality on the ground or in the air. We're also, of course, focused on not just large-scale renewables, but the governor has set a goal of 12,000 megawatts of small localized renewable energy distributed generation, as you know it, to be called. In addition, we continue the work that the governor started actually when he was governor first time, when energy efficiency standards were first adopted. And I see our chairman of the Energy Commission here, who has done such incredible work on continuing the great work that the state of California has done to lead not just the nation, but the world in energy efficiency. Recently, the Energy Commission adopted a new round of building energy standards, which are 25% more efficient than the previous standards, which were the best standards in the world. And of course, Commissioner Byron, who did such great work on the Energy Commission, I must acknowledge you as well. Because it's not just the folks that are there now, but this has been a continuing march in California to be a leader on renewable energy and a leader on energy efficiency. And we all know how important energy efficiency is. We're trying to practice what we preach. We've got really ambitious goals for state government, for our state buildings and energy efficiency and renewable energy. We're trying to lead on electric vehicles. I know you had a breakout session on that. The governor's committed to that. I think you're aware of the executive order that he put out with respect to that. And I know with Secretary Perry here and other speakers that you know that our military is really focused on renewable energy and energy efficiency. And we've made it a priority of the Brown Administration to work with our military bases in California and other military facilities to make sure that we do everything we can to enable them to be leaders on energy efficiency and renewable energy. It's a lot of work, but at this kind of conference, I think, speaks just in the attendees to what it takes to get the work done. It's not just the federal government and the state government, it's local government. It's not just large and old utilities, but new startups. It's venture capital. It's all of you working together. And so we and the Brown Administration under Jerry Brown's leadership, starting with his words back in 1979, pledged that we will continue the work. We're there to continue to make California leader and make a difference on all the aspects of energy that we're so committed to. So with that, I'll stop, and I'm happy to answer questions. Well, I'm just going to kick off very, very quickly just to set, just kind of step back for a second. And Nancy, you served in Governor Davis's administration back in the early 2000s. And just looking at your experience at that point and then looking at the way the state of California looks at energy now versus the way it looked at energy in 2001, what are some surprises that you found or what are your observations? Well, I was with the Davis administration for a short but troubled period. And we had what was then the energy crisis. And then it was all about crisis. And today, I think it's all about opportunity. And I think that's really, I think the Davis administration and so many people in the state and many of probably people in this audience, I know there's folks from our utilities here, turned what was a crisis into opportunity, laying groundwork for things like our Flex Your Power program and a lot of energy conservation, rapid permitting of projects that we needed to bring online quickly. But I think now we've got a wide open space for opportunity and much more knowledge. I think back then, I don't think people in their everyday language talked about megawatts and talked about solar energy. And now it's something that's not just the experts that are here, but it's almost common language now to talk about that. So I think we've come a very long way in the energy space since then. Terrific. I've got one more to start thinking of your questions. Moving to AB 32, which is obviously when you think of state of California and energy policy, obviously that's top of mind. The first auction revenue is scheduled to come in soon. And there's a lot of talk about how that's going to be spent. What are your thoughts? What is the administration's plan? It's clearly something that we're starting to spend a lot of time talking about. And of course, with the leadership of Mary Nichols, the chair of our Air Resources Board, she's really leading our effort on that. We think that it needs to be something that's carefully thought out. It is true that in our budget, in the state budget, we are identifying that some of the auction revenue can be used for programs that the state is currently doing that are aimed at reducing greenhouse gases. And so we want to be able to fund some of those programs with the auction revenue. I think the PUC has a proceeding going on about how auction revenues that the utilities get, how that should be used. And I think we share the utilities view that most of that really needs to go back to customers. In terms of the broad spectrum of where auction revenue, when the cap and trade program really gets up and moving, I think that's still a work in progress. Perfect. Questions from the audience? Do we have microphones floating around? Go ahead. I'm Mitzi Werthe. I'm with the Naval Postgraduate School. And this audience is going to be bored by my question, because I ask it of all the speakers. If you've done such a good job of educating the voter in California about energy and all of the elements of that, is it a story you can share with the other governors so that they can do it? Have you figured out how to communicate to 11-year-olds so they understand the complexity of these issues? It reminds me of when we got in to process improvement. And the Secretary of Commerce took on this program to improve it, sort of saying it was really important. And they would give awards to places that did it. But with the award, they had to go share what they'd learned with others, which they discovered was an expensive thing to do. So my question is, are you putting any money into your budget to help educate a broader public about all of these issues? The question, I actually do think we have some kinds of education programs. And Bob and others would probably be able to speak more to the details. But I think in a broader, let me just step back, because I think it's a good question. California doesn't have a lot of money to put into a lot of things except for core services. But Governor Brown, I actually was back in Washington, DC with him. He hasn't traveled out of the state very much. He went back to one governor's association meeting. And he actually did talk to the other governors about these issues. He was probably the only governor that uttered the words climate change. And a lot of them actually turned their head. They didn't even want to be in the same room with somebody saying those words. So I think he has sort of taken it upon himself to want to work with other governors. Because California being in the lead is important and impressive. But you're absolutely right if we're not leading our other states. It's to good advantage, but it's not the whole thing. In terms of educating the greater public, that's, of course, not only a governor's responsibility, but I think it's a responsibility of everybody here. And I'm always open to good ideas that you have. I can hear it, and I'll repeat it if you want. All right. Question on a really, I think, a broad policy issue where I think there's a gap. So the question's about a broad policy issue where I think there's a gap between AB 32's goals for many things, including zero net energy in our future facilities. And the tariff structure we currently have is administered by the CPUC. Let me give you a couple examples. And with the deadlines coming up, not too far off in the future, for us to be working towards zero net energy, I think we need to work now to work on these. First is the net metering limitation. A one megawatt limitation, if we're going to be serious about on-site renewable energy, is very restrictive, especially for tech companies. One megawatt is not a very large load. And so it really makes a practical limitation for us to realistically deploy renewable energy on-site. Secondly, just in the broader sense, if we're going to be zero net energy on-site, our tariff structure doesn't really contemplate any provision for how that works. If we, in fact, are going to take our meter usage to zero, we still need to be grid tied. We still need to use the grid for storage for legitimate purposes. There are costs to be borne about the grid's role in that. But if our bill would be zero, that really doesn't give the utility company any way to participate. So if we have zero net energy, what tariff structure would support that? I think it's an important area. Thirdly, aside from on-site renewable energy, that the ability to participate in grid purchase renewable. For Apple, we were able to get into the direct access program, but it was a torturous process to get in there by exception. Why can't that be something across the board for companies who want to, for the portion they purchase through the grid, go directly to their own generation source and purchase renewable energy? It would be a great thing across the board to encourage the development of renewable energy in the state if users who wanted to do it could do it without going through big regulatory hurdles. Obviously, some of the Enron things that you experienced years back caused some of the restrictions that make that a difficulty. But I think we're probably in a position to relook at those kind of things. Also, as renewable energy becomes a bigger piece, either for on-site or grid purchase, intermittency in storage becomes important. I think the policymaking, the ideas are there, but there's really no policymaking there for that as well. And then one last piece. Those are really more on the CPUC side. But on the legislative side, we want to encourage use of biogas yet. Our legislative structure prohibits the injection of landfill gas in California for use in our pipelines. And I believe AB 1900 provides a solution for that. But we'd be interested to see what your perspective is on that particular piece. Thank you. Oh, I forgot I was ready to get the microphone. I forgot I was mic'd up. I was so engrossed in your question, Mike. I forgot about the mic. You had a lot of things there. And as I said, many more experts. I think Commissioner Sandoval from the PUC. I know she was speaking earlier. I think, yes, she's here. I'm sure she listened intently and knows that I think the PUC is thinking about what kinds of other kinds of tools do we need to now adjust or change, including tariff structure. I know the PUC recently took action on net metering. But that was as an interim solution. I think we know that we need to look at these kinds of things. I don't think it's really, I'm probably not the right person to comment on all your specifics. But you raise important issues, I think, between the PUC, the Energy Commission, and our energy advisors in the governor's office. I think those are precisely the kinds of things we're looking at for the next stage of how we can enable things. On the biogas and the legislation, I'm really careful never to get ahead of the governor on that. But it is, we've had a biogas working group in the administration. We're really focused on it. And again, what additional things we need to do. So you raise them. I noted them all down. And they won't be forgotten. You'll see things on those in the upcoming months. The green here in front. Hi. Good to see you, Deborah. Good to see you. As you know, the oil companies are launching what is likely to be the largest effort yet to try to roll back or undermine AB 32. Could you speak a little bit about what you see as the challenges and opportunities for California to maintain its leadership role in addressing global warming? Yeah, very good question. And I was sort of joking when I was talking about the governor talking about climate change. But I really do think that it's an important point. And again, Governor Schwarzenegger and Governor Schultz, or it's Governor Schultz, I just made you a governor. You've been a secretary. I know. Have been really important. And of course, Secretary Schultz played such a key role in making sure that the effort to turn back AB 32 on the ballot in Prop 23 didn't happen. And we need to continue to make sure that we maintain our stake in leadership. I think the challenge for us right now is now one, not of advocacy and broad policymaking, but it's the tough work of implementation. And it is really tough work. And now is the time when we've got to make sure that we don't step into the landmines of unintended consequences, that we don't let the design of our AB 32 implementation programs lead to unintended out-of-control costs. And so we are very, very focused. And Mary and others are leading an effort. And the governor is particularly and personally focused on making sure that we are now implementing smartly. And I think, so the first, I think, answer to your question of how do we maintain our edge here is to be smart about implementation. And that's gonna take a lot of people across government and industry and many people here. The other thing is, is that the governor is not going to stop trying to be a leader and talking about the issue. And he thinks that's very important. Some of us have had to hold him back from spending a lot of time talking about climate change when we need him to be talking about holding the line on state spending and pension reform and those kinds of things. Because I think people need to know that he's focused on them. But he is committed to maintaining California's leadership role that was set up in the last, actually starting with Governor Davis and proceeding through Governor Schwarzenegger. But it's going to be difficult and we are going to have some bumpy, bumpy bumps in the road ahead, I think. So we all need to be smart and careful about it and keep up forums like this. But also, as we're taking actions, we need to make sure that we're smart about it. And I'm looking at Bob and Kathy and you are our partners and both of them know that the governor has actually convened all of our agencies that have any role in this and said, you all need to be talking to each other, working together. And I forget exactly Bob what he called himself but kind of the leader of the pack here. So it's getting direct attention from him. But thank you for the question, Deborah. Hi, I'm Mary Anna Grossman, Sustainable Silicon Valley. And I wanted to congratulate you again on getting the budget passed. But I have kind of an ongoing concern about the accounting for state budget. Because if you count a cut to something like investment in LED lighting programs that has a big energy savings, the same as a cut to something like childcare, health, food programs that leads to kids maybe dropping out of school later down the road and having learning disabilities and maybe adding to the prison population. So a cut that adds a lot of cost versus a cut that could eventuate in savings. So how do you, is there any kind of full cost accounting? Or do we just say first cost, that's it? That's all we have to look at. No, it's much more complicated and much more challenging. And I think you illuminated some of the things that some of the questions that people have to ask is they're going through that kind of exercise. And of course it's complicated in state budgeting because some things are funded by fees and are special funds. Other things are general fund and funded by tax revenues. But I think as we went through the budget, we looked long and hard and asked ourselves questions about each and every spending cut. Unfortunately, the system that we have developed over years and probably decades in California has really put the state budget into this twisted up pretzel that makes it very difficult because there are a lot of dollars that actually we can't get at that if you were to just be doing a look at what's a priority and what's not, some of those dollars might not be as much of a priority but they're not actually gettable in the sense of us being able to cut or reduce or change because either court decisions or initiatives that our citizens have passed or any number of reasons that put restrictions on state funds. So when you come right down to it, in some ways there are really a very narrow set of state spending categories where there's total freedom to be able to make the kinds of decisions that you talked about. I know that's probably not a satisfactory answer but it's I think just trying, I'm just trying to illustrate the complexity and I guess just say that I think policymakers try very hard to make decisions based upon what is really important and what has not just short term but long term consequences but it's difficult in California. It's very, very difficult. Additional questions? I've got one. We're going here, sir. Hi, thank you so much for being here. My name is Yaoya and the mayor of Palo Alto. Oh. I had a question actually around the state's interest and role within technology and energy efficiency. One thing that we have tried here locally is a social app around energy efficiency. Just more in the face of understanding the challenge of behavior, adaptation, looking at all the alternatives from an individual's perspective. What has a state considered in its own long term strategy for what we feel is a pretty challenging request? It's basically look at what you're doing and consider alternatives to what you're doing and then ultimately adapt what you're currently doing because it's a meaty and juicy question that even if you get good policies in place, ultimately, if it means behavioral adaptation, there's a whole added layer to it. You know, I think Bob, maybe if you hand the microphone to Bob right there. Bob, I'll finish up, but why don't you take a crack at the mayor's question? Sure, no, it's a very good question because basically, as you say, energy touches all of our lives in the question of how do we use it and how we affect it? I mean, one of the things which certainly the legislature has done is basically land use decisions, right? I mean, that sets the pattern of our communities, which determine how their consumption is for the next 50 years. And so how do you start affecting our land use planning in a way that we're building things smart? And similarly, as we're going through our infrastructure, on locating renewable resources, we're really trying to put those in smart places, but at the same time, certainly the behavior of partner energy efficiency. Jim Sweeney has a major program here at Stanford helping us by doing research on how to affect people's behavior on the energy efficiency side. And that's a huge issue that certainly we're looking for those research to help guide what we're doing and also what the PSE is doing. So again, it's a very challenging issue. We're certainly making some advances there and we realize it's important, but it's gonna be a big challenge for years to figure out how that affects the whole fabric of our society. Right, Bob is the chair of our energy commission for those of you that don't know. Thanks, Bob, for stepping in. And I think, Mr. Mayor, one of the things, one of the answers to your question is the fact that you as a mayor asked it and are as knowledgeable about this kind of question as you are and the way you posed it. And I think that's part of how we're gonna get at this challenge of continuing to change behavior to adjust to the changing needs and the constraints that we need to put on ourselves and our institutions in the energy field. Of course, and we're not resting on our laurels in this area and as I'm sure everybody here knows and I know, I think I saw that some of my former colleagues from PG&E are here and I know it was imprinted in our brains how well California does on energy efficiency and the average Californian uses half the energy as the average American and that is pretty, pretty amazing and we're not stopping there. So we've got to step up to the challenge as you, I think, very well articulated it and I think it's great that as a mayor you ask that question. Any final questions from the audience? Or I'll ask a fun one, it's not an easy one. So, I'm gonna apologize in advance. These are not the easy, none of these are the easy questions. So as we look at the national level and the state level, but national level, as we look at the recession and the budget issues that our federal government has and then our state government, jobs is the word that keeps coming up, jobs, jobs, jobs. In California and this area in particular is a jobs machine as far as creating them. However, sometimes we get people here trying to poach our jobs and our companies and kind of as an administration, how is the administration looking at working to keep companies that start here? Well, I think a couple of things. One, this is one of those great challenges for state government and as Governor Brown says and our sort of inimitable style of being very honest, he says all the politicians that claim that they create jobs just aren't telling the truth because politicians and government leaders don't create jobs, companies create jobs and institutions create jobs. But we do have a role in the policy making and the advocacy and the removing of obstacles and the leading and I think in this sector and the whole clean energy and energy efficiency sector, we're very committed to trying to do everything we can to remove obstacles to support our companies. We want our companies to stay in California. The governor asked a man by the name of Mike Rossi to be our chief economic development jobs person. We don't use phrases like czars. We don't have any czars and we don't have chiefs of staff or czars. We have executive secretaries but Mike and again in keeping with the kind of the way that we operate, Mike is a very respected retired big company executive who is leading the charge for the governor for free and in fact I think it's costing him money but he's very thoughtful, very creative, very accessible and between Mike's work and the work of our energy policy leaders in our agencies and commissions but also in the governor's office. We probably have more advisors and thinkers on this field than probably any other area because it's so important to us. Not a lot of specifics but I'm not sure that kind of question really can lead to specifics other than to say you have to stay on it and every day, every way when problems come up or opportunities if we can open a door through a policy at an agency or through legislation we wanna jump through it and try to do that. Well thank you. One final, we're gonna go. Okay, got one last question. Oh, I thought I was. I'm sorry. At one time, California was failing to energy independent. It produced a lot of the oil used in state. It produced a lot of gas in state. That was like the 70s. Since then, it's been what's happened in California, mirrors what's happened in the United States. We're not dependent on a lot of oil from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is known as the largest sources of oil used in California. The second foreign country shedding us fuel is Texas, natural gas. It comes out for a big pipeline. What is being done in this state to encourage in-state sources of energy under the government's program? Well, I think that all of the work that we're doing on renewable energy is really focused almost exclusively on in-state energy whether it's solar down in the desert or wind generation or geothermal or the biogas projects that we're working on. It's really the focus is almost exclusively on California energy. And in fact, at the policy level, there's actually debates about whether or not there should be absolute limitations or caps on bringing in any out-of-state renewable energy. So I think that's what this whole effort is aimed at, is trying not only to promote renewable energy but to promote California renewable energy. And I reached for the talk that the governor gave because your question, the way you posed it was exactly, and I'm not gonna find the words right now, but exactly what he was talking about in terms of the need for energy independence. And again, back in 79, we're still having that discussion but I think we're making progress here in this century. Nancy, thank you so much for your time. Absolutely.


We got a great show. I am here in LA. The sunshine is nowhere to be found, but guess what? The U.S. Open is. There's signs everywhere. We're very excited. We have Will Zellatoris. He's a young rising star in the PGA tour world, and he will be here to sort of break all of that down. We'll talk a little live. We'll talk a little PGA. We'll get to some U.S. Open stuff as well. Also, go Nugs. We see you. We salute you. We celebrate you. We've got that going on. Is the Andrew Hopkins watch still happening? Yeah. Hammer Watch is in Ethan's studio. Let's go. That's what happens. And that's where we start the show. There's no other way to start the show. I was congratulating the Denver Nuggets, and their biggest fan, Matthew Hamilton, who came all the way across the country. Not to see me, I'm sure. I don't quite know what you're doing here. We're here to weirdly escape the pollution in New York, so you came over to clean and crispy Gloom June LA. Yeah. Who would have thought LA would be the place to go to get some fresh air? What are you doing here? I don't know. Came out for the last couple of days. Who knows? I love it. Well, we're going on a bit of a vacation. Not together, of course, but all going our separate ways after Thursday's show. We're going to be gone for a little bit. We have a lot to get to. We're going to have fun shows until then. I don't really know where to look because you're right here. I'm like, can we do that again? You're right here, but you're looking there. I'm looking here. I'm in my pajamas today. There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. We're starting with the Nugs. You and I watched the game, and it was, again, not together, but we watched the game. And listen, this has been a long time coming. I talk about Cronkey on the show all the time. I worked for him in St. Louis. One of the first people to ever give me a paycheck was Stan Cronkey. I used to serve drinks to Josh Cronkey at Willie's Public Pool at Columbia, Missouri.  It's awesome. And so is Yokech. I mean, just awesome. His post-game interview, people want to say it wasn't great. It was iconic. This is an icon, and you couldn't tell that he was even excited, by the way. He was talking to Emmy Award winner, the amazing Lisa Salters. Did you just win an NBA championship game, or are you Ivan Drago? What's going on? Do we have the clip of it now? Let's take a listen.  How does that feel? It's good. The job is done. We can go home now.  And the whole world is like, what is this? This is your post-game? You just won this thing? What? And I just said Eastern European, man, I'm Eastern European. This is just what it is. You don't celebrate. You're even keel. You're like this.  I'll do in their thing. So congratulations to him. Let him celebrate how he runs. And people want to say a little bit that we can like roll this champagne video in the celebration. Didn't really have a lot of oomps. It's so freaking funny. This was me in Miami at my bachelorette, not mine, but the bachelorette party. I was at where I was like, I'm just buying all these bottles so everyone else has fun. And I really want to be in bed at 9 p.m. with like an eye mask on. That's sort of the vibe. You have a history of champagne bottles too, though. I do.  In fact, I'm taking notes from you, Joker. I'll say this. People, you know, obviously there are iconic celebrations. And we all remember the Michael Jordan's and the Kobe's and the little bronze and all those guys winning. And like people are saying this one was lackluster. It was underwhelming. That's BS. This is an iconic celebration that you are going to remember for the rest of your life. And you're going to have callbacks. You're going to say next time anybody wins something and they don't celebrate or they're not excited, you're going to say, all right, Joker, okay, Yokech, like it's just going to be a joke and it's going to enter the lexicon of celebrations as this asymmetrical antithesis of what we're used to. And I think it's iconic and I love it. And it's very, like I said, very Eastern European and you love to see it. So congrats to him, of course, the MVP as, you know, probably should have been the league MVP, probably the best big man in the history of the sport. We're getting into that conversation. I mean, he's going to keep going, right? He's not stopping. He's not retired today. So we'll see how that shakes out. We've had a bunch of great NBA players on our show tour talking about that. Yeah, and he is going back to race horses. That's why he wants to get home. Is that what's going on? Apparently, yeah, he said he wants to get back. He has his horse and he's preparing for a race. So he wants to get home for that. They asked him about the parade. They're like, are you excited about it? Great reporter by the way. I don't know who it was. Whoever asked him that because they knew they were going to get some downplayed answer. They just wanted the bite. And so, of course, aren't you excited about the parade? And he says, I have to get home. And in that moment, I thought, oh, no, there's something going on back at home.  And that's not the case. He apparently wants to go because he's a big horse guy. So pony was accurate. There's that part. So congrats. Not only to him, not only to Denver Nuggets fans and Russell Wilson and Champagne, you know they're juiced up by this. You know they're watching like, this could be us. This could be us. But instead, who said that Denver was having the time of their lives in sports? They all showed up. They're all there. You love to see it. And big shout out to the Nuggets, the Rams, the Avalanche owner, Arsenal guy, Stan Cronkey. He's on an unparalleled run right now. Maybe not with Arsenal, but these teams are crushing it in the last 16 months. He's won the Lombardi. He's got a Stanley Cup and on his shelf. He's got a National Cross League title and now a Larry O'Brien trophy. Just unbelievable. We see you. We love you. This one meant a little more to him. His son, Josh, of course, has been running that team for a long time. That's his son, his bloodline, his kid that he watched play at our alma mater. Hamilton and I used to go to Mizzou.  They've got huge connections to that school and the sport of basketball that they're so passionate about. This one meant something to them that's a little extra, I think. Yeah, especially 47 years for that fan base. Yeah. Without a championship. That definitely has to mean a lot. It's exciting. I like it. It's an awesome show before we hit vacation here. Lesson two days. I'm excited. We're going to give you a couple of players to keep your eyes on because we're keeping tabs on them. That's right. We're doing all the work. I know you're thinking, oh, who gets to go on vacation for four weeks? We do. But it's not because we didn't finish our homework and turn it in before we left. Now, these are guys who are kind of flying under the radar or rookies who I do think might be, I'm not going to say might be. These are guys that are going to be a factor this year. I'm just going to go ahead and say it. We're going to start with the guy that sort of spurred this idea. A friend of the show, Buccaneers running back Rashad White, okay? Leonard Fournette out of the way. The lane is cleared for him to be the guy in Tampa. And we hope he is. Leonard Fournette was supposed to be on our show and he no showed. Yeah. He overslaps Leonard Fournette. So we're all for Rashad White, okay? Last year, no, we love Leonard.  He and I talked about that versatility. We talked about him being a stud in that backfield. And you can imagine how everyone down there is excited to see him be the lead dog. In early April, Jason Light said that Rashad's going to be a stud. And it wasn't just lip service. And you know how I know that? Because the Bucs didn't draft a single running back in the draft a few weeks later, despite plenty of opportunities to pull that trigger. And while there are some doubters out there, fine. I'm sure there are. Rashad's drawing inspo from that Bucs fan base and seems more than ready for the opportunity. Listen to what he said to me a couple weeks ago.   He's one of my favorite guys we've talked to, really. I'm really rooting for him. And I think we're looking at fantasy a couple of weeks ago. He's really under the radar still. Yeah, he's outside the top 24 running back. So he's, like, running back three in fantasy. I also love, by the way. In a PPR league, what are we doing? Like, you've got to grab him. You think Baker or Trask aren't going to be trying to get him the ball as soon as possible. How's their Olin? Yeah, the Olin, they've made some adjustments there. Didn't have a great year last year, but yeah, they've kind of overhauled it. I like the Bucs-colored roses, by the way. You're really going all in on Rashad. I would call them up-and-adams colors, and I think they stole it from us, but that's okay. Okay, let's move on here. Lyon's running back. Oh, my gosh. Do you like this kid? Talk to me. Jameer Gibbs? Tell me. Love him. Why? Versatility. All right. So kind of the same thing as Rashad. Right, we love that. Okay, so let's do it here. Here's the rookie. Everybody's so excited about explosive as a runner, ability to line up at receiver. But, I mean, let's not act like Gibbs doesn't possess some of the very same traits here. I mean, look at this. Bijan Robinson's sort of comparison vibes, right? This isn't the only guy with highlights out of OTAs. Detroit signed David Montgomery. Sure, we love David Montgomery. I wish him the best. So there will be a little competition there for touches in the backfield. But we're going to see Gibbs lining up all over the field just like he did at Bama. He's jumping into the Detroit offense and already, you know, they're set. They were top five last year as far as the offensive side of things go. So we should see big things out of him this year. And I'd like to understand the field as long as possible and give that defense a little rest. Like, let's not roll the defense out there every three seconds, Dan. That's a good point. Yeah, definitely help that defense out, keeping him off the field. But if it wasn't for Bijan, we'd be talking about Gibbs so much more because I think he's that special of a talent. Yeah. So I love that you're giving him some love here because I think I'm with you. I think it's going to be a big year. They used him at receiver a ton at Alabama. We talked about Bijan so much, all that footage out of OTAs of them lining him up in the slot. We're going to see the same thing out of Gibbs and I think it's going to be fine. Too many guys in the backfield, though, for me to get excited about him? I don't think so because I think he could be out there with Montgomery. You could see him line up in the slot with Montgomery at tailback. We loved Montgomery who was coming out, remember? Yeah. Now he's got a division with a division rival. Okay, now let's get to a couple of receivers and this is the first time we've mentioned it but we're just putting our stamp on it as we head out the door for some vacation. It's Calvin Ridley, out of sight, out of mind and meaningfully so, but I just want to remind everyone of what he's capable of when he is on the field. I'd forgot about this a bit until Hamilton put it on my radar during one of his breakdowns. Look at the numbers he put up last year, a full year. Back in 2020 was the last time we saw that. It was top five in yards, top 10 in touchdowns and that was in less than a full slate of action. So now you put Ridley in a Doug Peterson visor offense. You know, he's the number one guy. Trevor Lawrence will take another step up and I think we're going to see a career year out of him. Another receiver I like, we like the young guys who told you we're bringing this here with Vikings working Jordan Addison. Vikings fans, you're insane. First of all, we'll get to that another time, another day. And I do love Jackson Smith and Jigba. We are a Seattle Seahawks show of record, but we got to give Jordan some love. And yeah, you got Justin Jefferson there, but situation matters so much when you look at which rookie receivers pop up and he is, because of Justin Jefferson and a whole other bunch of reasons in the best possible spot to kind of have, what kind of year though, like monster year? What does monster year mean for a rookie? I can see like 1,100, 1,200. Wow! Yeah. Because they throw it, they throw it around a lot. Will he have a better, will you put your name on him having a better year than Jackson Smith and Jigba because it's a more balanced offense where he's not, you know, in Seattle? I think so, because I think statistically when you look at it, the Vikings were the third heaviest passing offense last year. And now no Dalvin Cook, you think they're probably going to air it out a little bit more, right? I don't know! A lot of opportunities and with all the attention that Justin Jefferson is going to be getting, you got to think he's going to get some favorable match-ups. I mean, they're going to pass the ball even more, I feel like, with the Vikings. You get rid of Dalvin Cook. I know he caught the ball a little bit, but I mean, having the best receiver in the game and Justin Jefferson helps him. So hopefully it frees up Addison to make big plays out the gates, and you're right about that. Okay, the last one. Oh my gosh, Irv Smith. When he got injured a couple of years ago and he was on the Vikings, more heartbreak for the Vikings, he's, we were robbed, I think, of a couple years of greatness. That doesn't matter. Throw that out the window. He's still only 24 years old.  He had to complete with looks with Kyle Rudolph and T. J. Hawkinson last year, but now it's a bit of a fresh start. Where else to go but Cincinnati? Love it for him, okay? And he's talented, previously underutilized. He can make the argument of freshness, even though he's coming off of an injury-plagued four-year stretch with the Vikings. Look at what Joe Burrow has helped his two predecessors achieve, okay? He loves a tight end. C. J. Uzama put up career highs in catches. Yards, touchdowns in one full season with Joey B. Hayden Hurst had a career high in reception just by missing four games. Chase and Higgins demand so much spotlight, not only on yachts with Instagram models, but also on the field between the hash marks. You know, they get lots of shine, and when that happens, the tight end position can grab some balls, can do what they want to do. And Irv Smith Jr. has shown the potential. If he can stay healthy, I think we're going to see him become a major factor, hopefully in this offense. So these are just some guys that I like for your fantasy, for your, I don't know, for your odds, for your whatever, for you to sound cool at the bar picking up chicks. Hey, Janice, I think Jordan Addison's really going to pop off this year. Want to go on a date? Swipe left. This is, there you go. Keep tabs on these guys. And who did I miss? I'm sure you'll let me know. Okay, coming up next on the show, the U.S. Open is in L.A., PGA Tour star Will Zellatoris. Oh, that's a nice smile. All right, let's talk about it with Will, rising star. Janice loves a Viking snubber courtesy. Janice is like, oh my gosh, hey. All right, greetings from LACC. I hear that's off Will's shirt. Am I wrong? I don't know. I don't know, but it looks beautiful and gorgeous. Welcome to L.A. Is that like a Photoshop CGI'd son? There's no world that that's actually the son. There's no son in L.A. Like that is, that is an absolute, that is a throwback to 1998 or some other time era. Hashtag climate change. Okay, next guest today, a young rising star PGA Tour professional in just 10 major championship stars. He has six top tens. Wow, he has currently ranked 11th in the world rankings. That's just insane. A total star. Will Zellatoris, how are you? Hey, thanks for having me. It's a good catching up. Good catching up. I'm excited to talk about the U.S. Open, everything going on in the golf world. You know, when things from the golf world enter my like Twitter timeline, you know, stuff's going crazy. Like, you know, things are insane because that is not a world that's super familiar to me. So we definitely want to talk about everything, but I know you are dealing with a bit of a back situation. You recently had surgery. How are you feeling and where are you in your recovery? Tell your fans. Yeah, no, I feel great. I'm about eight and a half weeks out after my first surgery and I feel really good. You know, this is the first time in probably about two years. I'm really able to kind of push off my right side a little bit better. And I think it'll be really, it's a really good thing. I think we try to push off surgery for probably seven, eight months. You know, being 26 years old and saying that you're having a back surgery. It's always kind of a scary thing, but reality is, I mean, I still have the speed. I'm a little bit ahead of schedule in my rehab. So I feel really good. Now it's just the patience game, which I know I'm terrible at. So I'm working on it. Do you have like a goal in mind of getting back into action or a specific tournament as a goal or anything like that? Yeah, I mean, there's no rush. I would say just because I mean, obviously after our last week that we have, we have no idea what 2024 looks like in 2023 in the fall is supposed to help guys towards 2024. I have no idea what's going to happen on that end, but I'm kind of looking, I'm hoping Vegas would be a really good one to come up for. Yeah, I'd say that. I'd say so. Guy off back surgery, getting his leg let loose in Vegas. That sounds great. What are you doing while, you know, patients is something I don't have. And I can't imagine being young and wanting to be out there and compete and having the talent to do it and having to be shelved like that. What are you doing in your spare time? I need to know what you're binge watching. I need to know how you're filling your hours. Are you doing crossword puzzles? Are you reorganizing shelves and drawers? What are you doing? Yeah, I am actually in the middle of graduating. I left school early to turn pro. So I'm finishing that up right now. I think I've, I'm taking all of these like career planning classes, which is pretty hilarious. And I think I've written my resume like four times. So at this point, so it's just, it's just filling in the hours. But really after last week, I feel like I've got an unpaid administrative job. I mean, I've spent probably 25 hours on the phone trying to get a better understanding of, you know, what's going on in our world.  Since I'm really not able to do much golf wise, but I'm able to walk and move around. But yeah, after the last week, I feel like I've got a job. I mean, I'm just going to tell you, you're doing it wrong going to school. And I mean, I wanted to hear like beach. I wanted to hear, I'm watching the Sopranos from the beginning, something like that. But you do you. And congratulations. I'm up in the mountains right now. So we're on vacation right now. So we're doing all right. All right. I love that. Last week, were you doing all right? That's the question here, because oh my goodness, one of the biggest stories in the world and that will be in sports history. I think with this, the PGA tour and live tour, teaming up all of that. What, let's take me back to last week first. What was your reaction when you got word that the tours were merging? And then how did you even find out on Twitter, like everyone else? Well, so I was actually in New York on Monday for, I was meeting with a partner and a couple of friends and Jimmy Dunn actually tried to call me and I texted him saying, hey, I'm in the city would love to catch up. He's kind of been like a pseudo uncle to some of us out there on tour. You know, he's been around for a long time and his story is pretty amazing. And I totally missed his call. And I wake up Tuesday morning, he says, hey, give me a call. I got something to run by. And I think when Jimmy Dunn calls from now on, I think I'm probably going to answer. But, you know, I, I don't agree with it. I don't agree with it. I don't agree with it. I don't think anybody on tour agrees with that because when you get an email that says this is your tour and three people basically decide your future. It's kind of hard to accept that. And I think it'll be really interesting to see where things go because we have all this litigation. The litigation is obviously agreed to go to the side. But if we're having a discussion, I think it's going to be really interesting to see where things go because we have all this litigation. But if we're having anti trust lawsuits between live in the PJ tour, that litigation goes away and now we're together. I don't see how the DOJ could be accepting of that. I'm hopeful. I mean, look, I am, I want what's best for professional golf in general. So wherever that goes, I'm all on board. And I think there's been a lot of learning on my end over the last two years of trying to understand people's opinions and arguments behind it. You know, I think a lot of guys got in hot water for, you know, saying there's a moral argument, which if you start going down the moral argument path, well, if you take a Boeing airplane, you have a Starbucks coffee and you take a new bird. You know, that's that's PIF money that's in this company.  And so I think this is the best way for us going forward. But again, the way how this was done can never happen again. It's a really thoughtful.  And I really appreciate the candor. And I think it's a really thoughtful thing that you're saying. But you were, as I understand it, among many players who turned down the offer up front, right? They like they had offered you before any of this went down to go on live. Where do you stand with yourself now on the decision to sort of remain with the PGA tour before this all happened?  I think at this point now it's all of us are, you know, the guys who met in Delaware, a lot of the top players. We just want what's best for the game going forward. And we understand why this was done because it's a unifying factor. It's a unifying deal where you're now going to have everyone back playing again at some point in time. We don't know when that would be. But, you know, you can't tell these guys that, you know, hey, you can't come back and play the PGA tour wherever that that's just not a possibility. That can't happen. And so I for me and being some of the top guys that turned down the money, I'm actually okay with it. I mean, I know that the, you know, Freddie couples came out and, you know, he basically leaked my my offer that I had, but it was over six years and then he run it through and I'm like, man, I had a great 2022 and, you know, life was really good and having to go through what those guys went through to be at live and then now not even knowing what your future is in 2024. I don't regret my decision one bit, you know, because in 2024, we don't know what our landscape is going to look like. We don't know if these guys are going to come back. We don't know if they're not suspensions. We don't know if they're going to have fines. We don't even know if this deal is going to go through because of the DOJ. So to be honest, I have more questions than I have answers right now. And that's even from, you know, being around a lot of these top guys that are on the front lines with it. But, you know, like I said, it's, it's, it's a pretty wild time to be sitting here and thinking, you know, at 26 that, you know, I've told people where they they've asked me, you know, man, what do you think about this? I'm like, oh, you heard about it.  So it's, it's like I said, I think in the long run, this is going to be good for us, but there's so much work to be done. So if you ask me what 24, what 2024 is going to look like, your guess is as good as mine. Yeah, there's so much uncertainty. And yeah, we all heard about it. Well, everybody heard about it. I got to ask you though, you know, I covered the NFL mostly and it's 32 teams and locker rooms are very important. Your world is very different.  There's locker rooms, there's photo ops, there's meetings, there's pressers, all of this.  I think, like I said, I think having, it's going to have a lot of eyeballs for one, which is really good for us. You know, there's a lot of guys that went that a lot of us on the tour are still very close friends with, you know, like Harold Varner is one of the greatest guys on earth. I love that guy. I mean, what he's doing at ECU right now, or that he announced yesterday is just incredible.   I miss seeing them. I miss playing practice rounds with them. But, you know, and it's just like I told them, I said, look, I've got no problem with you going to live. I just want to make sure that you know what you're doing.   So, you know, I think it'll be, it'll be like having the guys back at some point, whenever that may be, you know, but I think, you know, the majors have been pretty, I think the media has been really wanting to have this live versus PGA tour battle. And in reality, you know, when it comes down to the majors, you know, Brooks winning, I think people really wanted to have that live PGA tour. Come on, Rory, come on, Brooks. In reality, you know, we all play golf. We've all known each other for, you know, the better part of 15, 20 years. So, you know, I think on the personal side, you know, there's maybe a few guys that maybe have some problems with some of the guys and I completely get it. But at the end of the day, my job's to go out there and play the best golf I can and get the ball in the hole as fast as I can and hopefully beat those guys. You don't mind those guys? You don't have like a chip on your shoulder? I would have a tough time. I would be like 50 million bajillion. Huh? Phil's doing his dances and like the eyeball emotes. Like, that's not going to put a little, even in a good way, little something extra on you. Come on. I think the part when the, I think when everybody was celebrating the deal, I think the details were so vague and so unknown that it was just thought that this was a merger and they were coming back. But then once the details came out of, it's not that simple. But we also don't know if this framework agreement is going to work. I think to me that's where I'm like, I wish I had answers for it. I wish I had, you know, some headline answer of, hey, this is what's going to happen. But I, who knows? I may give you an answer today and I might have a complete 180 tomorrow. I really don't know. And you're allowed. Give them hell. Okay. Listen, you talked about all those eyeballs on, on all the guys when they're together. That happens this week. It's a big week in golf. You was open here in LA and they say it's not officially US open week until you see, you know, these videos of the rough. So here they are. It doesn't, you know, that doesn't just look, you know, what do you think of this? Yeah. I mean, this is stereotypical US open. It's interesting because we haven't had a US open on Bermuda rough.  It's just a total guess.  So have fun boys. I'm looking forward to watching the mayhem. I mean, you've won on this course though. Will, right? This is the. I love this golf course. What were you? 12 years old? 2017? Walker Cup Squad. What's going on?  I mean, when I played in 2017, I think number seven played as a par three and a par four. Number one, we teed off the putting green one day to move it as far back as possible, like right in front of the clubhouse, essentially.  So essentially, you know, was it 11 played at 300 yards as a par three? And then we played 15. There's a 15 or 14 at 76 yards as a par three. So you can do so many things to this golf course that it really is kind of up to what the USGA wants to do with it. Take that how you want it, I guess, but I really do love the aspect of you can make these holes play completely different depending on the day. And so I think these guys are going to be in for a test. I think the person who's kind of most malleable and just accepting of, okay, we're playing a 300 yard par three. This whole, even though it has a par three on it, this is like a par 3.5. And if I just make a couple of pars over the next four days, I'm playing, I'm tying the field. And so US Open par is always irrelevant, but one day that hole could be par three and a half. And the next day you might have a nine iron in and it's, you might have a birdie look. So the guys that I think just go out and hit the best shots I possibly can and just be patient and know that they're going to make bogeys at some point, but it'll make sure no doubles. That's just the recipe. And Brooks did it amazingly at Oak Hill. I mean, if you watch this Sunday around, it was so boring, but it was so good. I mean, he hit four, I think he hit like four iron shots within six feet. And then he just lagged everything else close. And it was just like, you can't beat that. You have a lead in a major. It's really hard to make mistakes when you do what he did. I understood about 20% of what you just said. It's literally like you're speaking another language, but every dad in here is geeking out like, yeah, I heard malleable. So give me, you know, who is that?  Who conquers this course and wins this weekend? I, I mean, I think it's going to be one of the big names. I know that that's just a, you know, ha ha great answer. But I think the guys, you know, it's a big boy golf course. It is, it's about 7600 yards. I think is what it is. Okay.  You said Brooks twice. So I think Brooks is the guy I'm going to go for. Okay.  We all saw this. You yell Steve Steph Curry's mantra. What are they going to say? No. During your victory round, your win at FedEx St. Jude championship. That was your first tour in. So take me back, you know, just because we're celebrating all things NBA today.  You hoist that trophy. Talk to me about that. Yeah.  I know it was pretty wild.  And then, uh, made a really great up and down on 18 to get into the playoff. And then, uh, I got a bounce from the gods for my ball to stay up and, you know, kind of create a match play situation on that part three. Um, after, you know, really set pad. This exact same shot. His just happened to kick in the water. And then we have a little bit of a match play mentality from there. Um, so pretty amazing time. And, um, I'm looking forward to going out and repeating it at some point. I love that. Now did happy Gilmore tweet you after that one? He, so he's, yeah, he, um, he actually texted me after the masters a couple of years ago. And, um, it's so funny you're reading it because he texted me the day I actually got engaged and I said, Hey, thank you for the text message. Really means a lot. And, um, you know, I just got engaged today and just reading his text message. You've got it. You've got it all going on right now, man. Like so happy for it. I could just hear his voice. Like as, like as I'm reading the text message. Um, but he's, I mean, the guys, he's super, super nice. And, um, how do you know him? How do you know him? I think because of the masters a few years ago, people thought I looked like happy Gilmore. Which I, yeah, the long hair. Yeah. Back then when I had the long hair and all that, I definitely do.  And so, um, but he got a hold of me somehow. I think through the tour and he's shot me a couple of texts after. Have you golfed with him? No, I've never met him. Let's go. So I know I'd love to, I'd love to.  Like that's what we're talking about. Can you imagine? There's no amount of money in the world. I mean, I would pay so much money for that round, but I swear I wouldn't be able to focus. Yeah, probably the first round I've ever played and I'd be totally okay with it. Yeah. You're just taking that live money. Getting. Okay. Listen, we mentioned Steph Curry. I'm sure he'd love to golf with him. I don't know if you've met him or not, but the whole match thing is happening. And it's very exciting. Steph Curry and Clay Thompson, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, my world, your world. Let's go. It's June 29th. I assume you'll take Team Warriors to win, correct? I kind of have to.  I already get enough crap for being in living in Texas and being a Golden State Warriors fan, but I'm born over there. So I, you know, that's still kind of home for me, but I got a roof of my guy.   Are we a Cowboys guy? Are we a fantasy football team? Yeah, I'm a Cowboys guy. I mean, I know the Warriors have had a nice run, but I got to balance out the misery somehow. I love it. I love it. All right, we appreciate it. You're amazing. I love the explanations. I feel a lot smarter and dumber all at the same time. So it's very good. It's a little happy Madison sort of vibe that I'm feeling. We appreciate you. Will Zalatoris. Good luck in your recovery. And, and thanks for the time. Thank you. Thanks y'all. Have a good one. Thank you. Enjoy the mountains. It's like where I want to live and be for the rest of my days. All right. We'll be back. We've got more. We'll hop back to the NFL. Little NBA. Do not miss it. Okay, I got wind and dying. Caviar, roses, private jet, the whole thing, mock-ups of him and Titan's jerseys. Both sides remain in contact. Nuke expected to visit the Patriots though. So that is what is going on. There's some people out there. I'm listening to some fans, some analysts, some Twitter analysts saying that he maybe is not as dominant as he once was. So I wanted to bring in Hamlet. And I flew him all the way in for this edition of Hammer Time to break it down. Okay, okay. What are you seeing when you, my friend, look at DeAndre on the tape for real? Yeah, so I don't see any drop off really whatsoever. We know Speed wasn't really ever his game and how he created separation. So when you look at the tape, you still see all of the traits that have made him so successful throughout his entire career. Let's go. Here he is up at the top of the screen. One of the things you look for it to see if there's a decline, how's he doing against press coverage? Here he is third and four against the number one defense in the NFL, right, the 49ers. Look at how he gets off that line of scrimmage. He gets his leverage without getting pushed to the sideline. And he's always been so great at this, that back shoulder throw. He makes that eye contact with Colt McCoy, the body control to get himself turned, track that ball, and then get the feed in. We know from Nate Burleson, our buddy. He's as good with the tow drag swag as anybody. Shout out Nate. Makes it look easy there. And then you'll see him here moved inside in the slot against zone coverage. This is where you can move and get him some favorable matchups still. And you'll see it here. He gets into that window. The safety has him lined up here for a big shot. There's no reason why he should be able to break out of this, and especially if he's declining. There's no way he spins out of this and takes it for a touchdown, right? Right. Wrong. Oh, I was just videotaping you. This looks sick. Great. But yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're still seeing... Yeah, it looked great. Go ahead. You're seeing all the things from him that we've seen throughout his entire career. We saw it all on tape last year. You can't expect him to be what he was never, right? If he was never the speed guy, then why would that? It's just people trying to sort of tear him apart. And he did average. We have some numbers here. 95.7 yards per game before Kyler Murray got hurt last year. Guess what? That's the second highest average in his entire 10-year stretch of his career. So, listen, I don't get the narrative. He's still playing at a high level.  There's something else going on. There's something else going on with DHOP that we are not figured out yet. But take me to more tape on him and how you're viewing him. Yeah, and of course, you know, we looked at him getting off of press covers. Yes. We looked at the yards after the catch. But he's still got this, too. You're going to see here down in the red zone. They're stacking him with Zach Hertz. He's always been such a great red zone weapon. And you'll see there, that's all pro safety. One of the most physical safeties in the game. Harrison Smith lined up on him. He gets his hands on him. How does he beat these type of physical plays again? Especially as the speed starts to climb a little bit. He sheds him easily. And then he still has the best hands in the entire game. Just reaches up and stabs that thing one-handed for the touchdown. Those hands aren't going anywhere. I don't care how old he is. He's always going to be able to make catches like this. You put the ball anywhere near him. He's coming down. Hey, Brian, you want this guy in the AFC? He's going against your Buffalo Bills? Let's go. You do? You do? I don't. He looks scary. He's still got it. Yeah, he definitely does. Brian wants that smoke. Brian thinks the Buffalo Bills are... Yeah. I saw Stefan Diggs was doing quite a beautiful spread in some magazine again. You think Stefan Diggs is... I don't know. Okay. Okay, what else we got going on? We have to think about, you know, we don't know where he'll be playing yet, but it all figures itself out in the fan-level sportsbook. And, you know, there's so much fun stuff at the sportsbook. Guys, it's crazy. He's plus $4,500 to lead a league in receiving, even though we don't know where he's going to be. Yeah. That's ahead of like Christian Watson, or, you know, the same, rather, and Mike Williams. Guys who we know where they are and they've got great quarterback play, behind guys like Chris O'Lave and Jerry Judy where there are quarterback questions. Is that for pretty good value? You have to think it is, because, again, there's still a chance he ends up with Patrick Mahomes, right? So if he ends up with a Mahomes, that number is going to change pretty dramatically and you're not getting those odds. So now is an interesting time to get in on him if you are still a believer in what he's able to do on the field, he hasn't lost a step at all. It's going to all depend on the landing spot, right? If he ends up in Tennessee, he's probably not leading the league in receiving, but if he ends up in Kansas City, he's going to have a great shot. D-App was hilarious yesterday. He's like, don't go to either of these. Don't go to Tennessee. Don't go to the Patriots. Kansas City would be nice, but you heard me last week. Tell me if you think I'm wrong about, not that they don't need him, but like they're okay. They've got the chemistry. Is he going to muck with that? Would be the question, where do you want to see DeAndrego? I mean, I'd love to see him in New England. I think just make that AFC East as exciting as possible. So does Brian, really. I think just seeing that AFC East be loaded, that gives the Patriots a legitimate shot to push those other teams. And it's going to be a headache, try to figure out who wins that division and who finishes and lasts. Kind of like how we were with the AFC West going into last year. I think that division is going to be awesome to try to have to sort through and figure out. Go grab the value, plus 4500 to lead the league in receiving. Again, same as Christian Watson and Mike Williams, behind guys like Olave, behind guys that have a lot more quarterback questions, despite not knowing the destination. Because at worst, he ends up with Bill Belichick, where they need a true number one at best. He's catching balls from Patrick Mahomes in some theater coming near you. So enjoy that. How about me telling Will, if he should have taken the live moment, so he could golf with Adam Sandler? He enjoyed that. He did? Okay. Coming up. We know what I mean. He's got to have a little something extra. A little something extra for them. We love and gawk way. We always have 2017. You almost won the APC championship game. Let's go. Yearning for earnings. We're going to swipe left and swap right for the Enneak. Miles Jackals and De... We're not just a football show. We're turning dingers into dollars, baby. All baseball season long, with Dinger Tuesdays on FanDuel. Ellie? Ellie? He's got a good shot. I had Bo Bichette last week, and he hit one, so... I don't know how you have the fricking time. America's number one sportsbook to spend $25 or more on any player to hit a home run and get $5 in bonus bets for every home run hit by either team. That's really why Hamilton's here, because... It's Dinger Tuesday. You just want to talk about Dinger Tuesday. And if you need another reason to root for your favorite players to go yard, download the FanDuel Sportsbook app. You can get it on all the MLB action today. My brewers are in trouble. That's what I... I'm not kidding. What are you bragging? I love it because the yellowish is just stinking up. When did this happen? I have to... I listen to... I listen to a lot of the Brewer's games on the app, and I'm listening to Bob Yooker, who I love, and I love listening to the local dairy farm and the ice cream and the Scotts lawn care stuff. You asked me where I have the time for a fantasy baseball game. You're listening to Brewer's games. I do it for love. I do it for love. I listen to these Brewer's broadcasts, and they're not doing great. But the Cardinals aren't doing much... You know, this is the time of year the Cardinals awake, and they come and they take it. They're not doing that right now, huh? They're having a rough time. Yeah.  You worked for the Cardinals. Now you're listening to Brewer's games. It's the biggest heel turn ever. Like, Bears fans want to be mad about the Bengals. How about you be mad that I went and got paid and then got a... I literally have a World Championship ring from the Cardinals. No one's mad about that, Chicago. And then you got to throw out a first pitch at a Cubs game after that. That's called a master class. Richard just said... Richard just called my ear. Where's that ring right now? Kali. Oh, boy. No one knows. I have no idea. Chicago probably hanging around. Just to rub it into Chicago. That ring's sitting there in your city limit somewhere. It's at my mom's house, I'm sure. By the way, it wasn't like the Matt Holiday, Adam Wainwright, Chris Carpenter, sparkler. It was definitely the lower grade ones. They have different classes. They've got the A team. I think I was like an F class. It's not that nice. It is about the size of the ring. That's what Richard's arguing with me in my ear. Oh, okay. Should have taken the live money. Coming from Richard, the guy that's going to buy his wife socks from the Kentucky Derby. Father's Day is coming up. By the way, we have a primer for everybody out there for Father's Day. And we are going to tell you what you should buy, moms, wives, partners, and kids, and what you shouldn't buy. And so we're going to do all of that. Maybe you should buy lasers. The most manipulative lesson you've ever talked about, but yeah, the lasers. Can you tell people about the lasers? I think any gift that you get for somebody for Father's Day should really be for you. And I'm not saying you get them something that you would use. You get them something that takes something off your plate and you do it via what he's calling manipulation, but what I'm calling just good strategy and a partnership. Yeah, you have a great way of twisting things to make them sound better than they are. We have a big, like a big, fandal photo shoot today, everybody. And I know we have to take a break here, but I decided, because of my excellent time management skills, that I would go do, you know, like lasers, like when you get a little up there in the old age, you want to get, you know, you want to keep it nice. Yeah, sure, lasers. Keep it nice. I got three lasers yesterday. I literally have makeup on my face, guys. It's like what a mortician would do in my girl to make sure that, you know, you're looking okay. I have like eight pounds of makeup on my face, but we're doing this photo shoot, baby. We're ready. Are you part of it somehow? Can we get some pictures? I am. Ah! Exciting! We'll be back after this. I'm sorry to everyone watching, but that was, that was uncalled for. Lasers. Lasers! Three of them. And then needles on my face. So a lot of free agents on the market, our producers have been helping them over the past couple of weeks, because Eric, that's what you're calling in life, was to find free agents. Where is Eric? Yeah, there he is. Eric, to find free agents. Love. Yeah, okay. We're doing it for love. Yeah, man. I mean, I'm a giving heart. I like to help people out. Me and Marissa teamed up on this, to just make some NFL free agents look a little more appealing. So we created an app, and it's called Earning for Earnings. Terrible name, but it's, you know, it's a word. Before we take this out to try to get investors, we've got to work on that. But what do you got? All right. Today, we have NFL free agent, Yanik, in Gakoe. Satchee for Satchee for Satchee. Let's get into his Earnings profile. All right. There he is. I'm loving this confident lean on the Camo Ferrari, by the way. That's some drip right there. Oh, what? This? My Camo Ferrari? My Camo Ferrari? What? This whole thing? Oh, I guess this is where I'm sitting. Okay. Cool. Yeah. I like it. So he's 28 years old. He's 6'2". He's from Washington, D.C. He's an edge rusher. And he's from the University of Maryland. So go Terps, right? Go Terps. Let's get into his prompts. The way I win you over, I've had at least eight sacks in all of my seven seasons in the NFL. Daggers. That potential match. Let's get to that next prompt. My greatest weakness. I have some issues. As a run defender, I'm just being real.  I'm filled for speed. Not comfort. All right. Let's get to his last prompt here. My model in life is this. And I think we have a video. Let's click on it. I don't quit. I don't quit. I don't quit. I don't quit. I love that. I don't quit. Kay, it sounds like he doesn't quit. Yeah, it sounds like it. He's in it to win it. All right. Here's some potential teams. We got the Browns circling back from our mutual interest in 2020. Jags. Two weeks. You and me. England. On us. Are you in? I've got a DM like that before. Panthers. Right is right. Reich is Reich. And then we have the Bears. Our stadium looks like a spaceship. Want to go to outer space? No. Oh, I'm loving it. All right. Let's drop into the DMs and see what we got here. Yeah. All right. So the first DM here, I think we got it from the Bears, right? Oh, the outer space one? Okay. Bears. We're looking for someone to put the suite in Sweet Home, Chicago. Matt Eberfluss is all over the market right now and looking to add some assets to his defense. Okay. Do you hear that? Whoosh. Whoosh. Oh, what's that noise? Just the windy city knocking at your door. Guys, Bears are coming in hot. What do we think? Is this a good landing spot for them?  I mean, the days of Khalil Mack, Robert Quinn are over. The Bears had just 20 sacks last year as an entire team, so that's not great. They need him and they can afford him. And they got all the dough. So it's a pretty good match. All right. I like it, and I love him. I love him. What else you got? All right. Let's get into the Jaguars and the Ends real quick. If I could turn back time, if I could find a way to take you back, the old Jaguar way. It'll be better this time, I swear. We've got the hottest it couple in Trevor and Doug. We've moved up to Primetime. Did I already mention that free two-week trip to England? Yeah, baby. Okay. They're coming off a little nerdy, if you ask me. What are we thinking, Hamilton? I mean, that's an awful lot of sweet talk they're giving to somebody who's just going to be in the rotation. But if that's the rule that Yannick is willing to accept to be that situational pass rusher, I love the fit. I love seeing him come back home. And I think there's still a lot to his game. None of this matters. Pass rusher.  Go Brewers! If I could turn back time. See you tomorrow.


Hey, how you doing? I'm MC3 Zachary Bell. Today is November 10th 2011 and we're one day away from the carrier classic We got a special guest for the show today, and we're going to talk to some of the players. Let's get it started All right, I'm here with Raymond Green of the Michigan State Spartans Harrison the black Falcon Barnes I'm here with Austin Thornton Tyler Zeller. All right. I'm here with legendary coach Tom is over the Michigan State Spartans John Henson. Oh, you know who we're here with now Dexter Strickland of North Carolina It's hard heels. How does it feel to be practicing for the aircraft carrier? It's a different feeling. You know, I've never imagined in my wildest dreams that I'll be on the Navy aircraft carrier It's pretty incredible. You know, I'd been on the aircraft carrier when I was about five or six and all I remember from back then was It was just how big it was. I think it's very cool. I got in the bunk yesterday. It was a little tight You know, the ship is incredible. You know yesterday. We had a tour of it from top to bottom And I think it's an incredible structure It's huge Truthfully, how does this rank among your life experiences this this ranks of all my life experiences number one This is number one This is no question the number one definitely up there It's if not number one something that you always see on TV, but you never really get experienced a lot real life That's the top right. Is there anything else you want to say? I like all the sailors so much We appreciate what they do. We appreciate the opportunity to maybe share their home for a few days and And we really appreciate the sacrifices. You all need to keep us in a position We can play the game True legend time is up We just want to say how great of an opportunity this is to come aboard this ship. I just want to say thanks everybody I know you guys do a lot for us that we may not realize and I don't think I can do what you guys do So I have a lot of respect for you. Thank you for everything you do this country You know what it is without song We just want to say thank you and we appreciate all you all all y'all hard work and God bless to every Each and every one of them. I think it's really exciting One of us I know is exciting also for all the people in the Navy to be able to be entertained by two quality teams I think the whole structure has been phenomenal the hospitality of beauty of all the people And the phenomenal people I met from the captain to the chiefs right down to your man level Y'all been really great. If I had to put it in vitality some would simply say you're awesome, baby With a capital and big fights out true legend. All right man. I love my legend


Hey guys, it's Liana and I'm here today to talk about rereading the Red Rising trilogy. I just realized these are out of order. Oh, I'm a fake fan. Okay, there we go. Red Rising trilogy in the correct order. Yeah, so if you've never seen my channel before and you haven't seen Michelle's, then you may not know that I'm a fan of Red Rising. When I say I'm a fan of Red Rising, I mean I'm a fan of the Red Rising saga of it in general. And it is called Red Rising, both the book and the series, which can be confusing. I'm not actually a big fan of Red Rising. That's the tea. Good night everybody. Okay, for real though, I feel like I've told this story, which isn't much of a story, so many times at this point, but I read Red Rising and the beginning, I was like, this is super good. I'm into this. And like, when I was like a fifth of the way through was already messaging people like, you must read Red Rising. It's so good. And then as soon as Darrow gets to the Institute, I was like, what is this? What is any of this? And I was pretty bored, frustrated, annoyed, confused, bewildered for the rest of the book. And at the end I was like, I think I gave it four stars because the beginning was so solid. For me, I really was hooked by the beginning. I cried on page two. It wasn't page two, but like pretty close. Because the beginning was so strong, I was like, maybe it was me. Maybe I just like was zoning out and it's my fault. So like, give it four on good faith. And then I was like, yeah, I don't know. Like I started something. I don't know what's serious for me. And then friends of mine had Buddy Red Red Rising and were then going to pick up Golden Sun. They're like, you just read Red Rising. Would you care to join us for Golden Sun? And I had bought the trilogy like all in one go before reading it as I do.  I own it. Let's do it.  I've said that so many times now is my remains my favorite book in the saga. I haven't read Dark Age yet.    And after Golden Sun, I became a huge, huge fan of Red Rising. So when people pick up the series, I'm usually like, some people love Red Rising. The first book, a lot of people in fact love the first book. So I always I don't want to make people think they're going to hate it. But I'm just like word of like warning or encouragement. Read Red Rising because you can't skip it. But if you don't, it doesn't click with you. Like if you don't love it, maybe still read Golden Sun because I didn't love Red Rising all that much. But I am a Red Rising fan. So read Golden Sun because you may end up like me liking the series. You just got to kind of push through Red Rising. Not everyone takes my advice and some people again adore the first book. And that's great. I'm really happy for you. I've been rereading Red Rising because I wanted to reread all these books before reading Dark Age because it has been so long since I read them. And I wanted to get maximum enjoyment out of Dark Age.  So I've been rereading the Red Rising saga and I will be reading Iron Gold very soon, but I just finished Morningstar. So I have now reread the trilogy and how do I feel about it? I was hoping that because I have heard people who like me said that they read Red Rising didn't care for it that much. Then read Golden Sun and became fans of the series. There are other people like me who felt this way. And then they told me that then they reread Red Rising now that they did fall in love with the world and the characters and got to know everything a bit more in Golden Sun and Morningstar. So then when they reread Red Rising, they liked it much better. And I was really hoping that I would feel that way. And I didn't. It was the exact, precisely the same experience reading Red Rising started so strong.  Oh my God, yes, the Reds and like the carving and all of that. I was just like so here for it, crying even more the second time because this time I knew it was coming. Now it's just like not ready for it. And then it happens that I was just like a weakly mess. And then there was the Institute and I was like, Lana, last time it didn't go good.  You know, these characters now pay attention. I just hated it so much. I was just like, just gotta get through this and get the Golden Sun. And once again, picked up Golden Sun even though I knew all the twists and Golden Sun. The second time through, I was like, oh man, I was like, I wonder if it's not going to pack that punch. Because I just remember Golden Sun being the one where I was just like, huh, what? What? So I was like, I already know all those twists now. So is Golden Sun going to be boring the second time? Is it one of those where like an M Night Shyamalan movie where like the first time you're just like, what? And the second time through, you're like, yeah, well, okay, I already know all that now. So like, whatever. Nope, Golden Sun second time through.  And like slightly different enjoyment just because I did know stuff was coming. But now I could watch it on, like watch the, like, you know how like if you like ride a ride at like Disneyland or something, one of those ones that has like a lot of like, like optical illusions and a lot of like tricks that it pulls to like make things seem like something that they're not. So the first time through, you're just like, whoa, wow.  Now you can watch it and be like, try to figure out how they did that. So it's kind of like that. So reading Golden Sun the second time, like I knew, like there's a couple things that I kind of forgot, like littler stuff that I was like, oh yeah, I forgot about that. Oh yeah, that's so good. But the bigger stuff, I was like, all right, let me watch now. Like let me see where the seeds are being planted for this. Let me try to find those moments when something's being foreshadowed that like I did not notice the first time. Like, like watch the thing happening from that perspective rather than being in the moment.   The Golden Sun. Golden Sun man. It is the fit. Then a lot of people, Morningstar is their favorite. And I, when I read Morningstar, I read it half like reading reading and half in audio book form. And I have complained many times that I don't like the audio books for Red Rising because I don't feel that the narrator is the right choice. I actually really like the narrator, like the person, like as a narrator. I have a lot of audio books that he's narrated before that I like. I just don't think he's the right choice for Red Rising because he's like this older Irish sounding storyteller man. So I think he's the perfect voice for a lot of sort of third person high fantasy, like telling you about these elves in this world kind of thing. I think he's perfect for that and he's a good narrator. Like he's got good like a dramatic reading like he's good at it. Like I think he's quality. I just don't think a close first person present tense narrator from the perspective of a 16 year old later like early 20s year old is I don't think I can't believe that this man is Darrow and it's very much Darrow telling you the story. I just like it doesn't work for me when Darrow sounds like he's 60 years old and he's smoking a pipe in the shire, you know what I mean? Like it doesn't work for me. So I think it's an odd choice for the Red Rising trilogy. So that I was reading it and doing it on audio just for time sake because the month that I was reading Morningstar back when I first read it like I was crunched for time and I decided I needed to finish it that month so I did part in half and half kind of and so I was wondering because again I've heard a lot of people say that Morningstar is their favorite and I was like for me it's not Golden Sun is my favorite but maybe it's because I read part of Morningstar as an audio book. So I read Morningstar entirely as a book this time around to see if that would change and there was a lot of scenes that I liked more or that affected me more emotionally that stuck with me that I enjoyed more reading it as a physical book for sure but I maintained that Golden Sun is the best one. Morningstar it still has all the flaws that I felt that it had back when I first read it so I feel like Morningstar because it's wrapping up the trilogy it's taking a lot more time to like grandstand and soapbox and to kind of try to wrap things up and a lot of that is some of what I suppose is necessary but a lot of it isn't. I feel like all there's things that it's necessary and it's not which bear with me on this analogy. I've learned a lot about editing footage over the years that I've been booktubing and there's a lot of clips a lot of footage that early me would have left in a video thinking it was necessary and now me I'm savage.  I've seen so many even really high quality videos where they let a joke play for too long or like a clip of them making a face at something for too long and I know that when you're editing it you feel like you need to leave that in to make sure your audience got it but your audience gets it. You can show like something for literally a split second and your audience will get it and you can move on. So I feel that way about Morningstar as a book where moments are dragged out too much because this is the final book in the trilogy so we're like making sure to make that point and like emphasize this moment and I'm like you know keep it keep it brief like Golden Sun it packs the most punch and it doesn't do it that ever. It doesn't almost ever grandstand or soap box or take a moment to really do that and it leaves the biggest impact and packs the most punch. So Morningstar maybe could have been my favorite if it had not done that it just kind of makes it drag more when every battle and every epic moment and every death is like we pause to like super duper feel it and I'm like you're making me not feel it.  So I still I mean I gave it five stars Morningstar is still fantastic and I still love a lot of things about it but Golden Sun remains my favorite. So my takeaway is that my opinion did not change whatsoever. Some things I hoped would change and some things I hoped wouldn't and neither happened. I feel exactly the same way re-reading it as I did the first time through. Red Rising was like great and then Golden Sun was what and Morningstar was like good let's let's wrap it up both the same way both times reading it. So I find that that's true unless it's something I read as a kid or like I'm really truly a different person now I find for the most part re-reading books does not change my mind but you know I'll keep doing it to see if it happens. So I still recommend the Red Rising trilogy we'll see if I feel differently about Iron Gold when I first read Iron Gold and I continue to say this because that's my only experience of it is that first time reading it and then Golden Sun remains my favorite reading experience I think the best written one is Iron Gold so far. I've not read Dark Age so maybe that is. I feel like in Iron Gold, Pierce Brown really demonstrated his writing chops that he has grown as a writer that he can grow his world that he can tell a story from a perspective that is not Darrow so I think Iron Gold it's just it's so painful to see where these characters have ended up but I'm also so like like applauding Pierce Brown for going there because um that is so easy to fuck up well looking at new Star Wars sequels I would be so here for a story about Luke Skywalker crumbling under the weight of his own legacy but those movies are shit come at me. So I think in Iron Gold Pierce Brown is showing how to do that right because Darrow is crumbling under the weight of his own legacy and that is tragic to see it is painful to see but it is also realistic to see so I just I think he did such a good job of writing Darrow the way Darrow would be 10 years later as well as showing other parts of this world and other people who have been affected by Darrow's legacy both positively and negatively and I just think he did such an amazing job expanding the world and growing his world and growing his characters and growing as a writer and Golden Sun is a lot more fun but Iron Gold is it's meaty and it's it's good so I'm looking forward to re-reading that but the Red Rising trilogy I feel exactly the same way so like I guess I like that because I don't have to like so everything I've said about Red Rising let's just delete those videos because I feel differently now I feel the same way so I can continue to tell people that same thing I've been telling them this reaffirmed all of my Red Rising opinions so let me know in the comments down below what your experience has been re-reading books not necessarily Red Rising but if you find that you feel differently when you re-read a book or if you feel the same or you hope to feel differently or you hope to feel the same if you have read and re-read Red Rising if you felt differently, you felt the same if you feel the way that I do that Red Rising is the weakest Golden Sun is the most incredible and that Morningstar is a bit long let me know I post bookish videos on Saturdays so I can subscribe and I'll see you when I see you bye


So no one loves shots, but this is super simple ready check it out. Boom. Hey, dude Thanks for remembering that vaccines game changer way to go you know way to go us hold on are you me? Yeah, 20 years from now Yeah, it is weird, but thanks a lot pal. Wait, when is this coming? Whoa sooner than you think Cool