o go you've gone so much faster than I ever thought possible and it's been hard work every step of the way but I really appreciate where we're going and I'm excited about where we go next and especially when we have an opportunity to partner with the state to drive an agenda and hopefully be a model for other counties and then to pilot different new programs and see what we can do to really make generational change not only for these kids and their moms but also for the whole community because we all benefit when we make these investments so thank you so much for that work Supervisor Friend thank you chair for your leadership on this and thank you for those that have dedicated your career to these kinds of issues everybody that's sitting up here is a parent in fact three of us have kids that are four or younger that are sitting on the board right now still three and under and when you become a parent as I'm sure so many of you know you become acutely aware of how much of their life is dictated by things that are completely outside of their control and how much of their opportunity is dictated by things that are totally outside of their control but when you're put into positions as all of you are to be able to make decisions on the board as well to have an impact on that for kids that don't even recognize what difference their futures will be as a result of this I think we're really called upon to do exactly this to shift that trajectory for these kids and their parents but these kids are the ones that we're really ultimately focusing on because the only way to break a lot of cycles is it has to start with the first break and the break can be viewed in a positive or negative way the terms in various ways but I consider this these parents and these kids haven't been given any breaks in their lives and this really is the first intervention to say even before you're born we're gonna start making sure that you get that first break to set you up on a different trajectory than you've been on before and I remember the debate over this item both in advance and during it there were members of the community that questioned the cost there were even questions at the board of the cost but to see now I think it's pretty unassailable but you have not only with the leveraging but just with the commitment of showing that there are fundamentally different outcomes that will be realities now for the kids that you've invested in and I think it says a lot I'd like to thank the state a strong statement of commitment to take the time down to come down to our county they're worse counties you could have traveled to I mean let's be honest but still the fact that you came down here says a lot and even though you're leaving us Ms. Timberlake at the end of the year these things aren't possible without your leadership from the top either you are such a dedicated public servant but such a dedicated force for good for those that don't have a strong voice in our community and you are elevating these kids voices and I appreciate it in your partnership with the chair on this issue is a legacy project so thank you for that as well thank you chair thank you for the presentation the ongoing work of this initiative is very impressive and you know maybe reflect when we heard from Ms. Perry about all the work that's happening in Sacramento and the leadership from the governor is that it makes a difference who sits in chairs and I noticed as someone has been on this board that when we started having parents of small children we started talking about issues of young children it made a difference and now that we have a governor who is the parent of young children it's maybe it's no surprise that we have a commitment at a state level to fund these kind of programs because it's there every day you see it and some of us might be more fortunate than others but when you're out in the community trying to find childcare trying to see who else is in the schools recognizing that not everybody has had the same opportunity or privilege it's programs like this that are the a leveling force that allow us to succeed and be successful and so I really appreciate the work that's going on not just with our county staff which has been incredible but with our partner in first five our safety clinics, HIPP and all the organizations that have helped make this successful because that's kind of what we do here in Santa Cruz is we try to work together in order to provide for the needs of the community so I also would point out that this 3x3 is really part of a larger portfolio of the way in which we do programs here in Santa Cruz changing the way in which we funded community programs to our core funding model is reflection of some of these same values and engagements I see it with the creative to career initiative in Live Oak where when I look at some of these pieces and some of these partners it's all part of that same model and so I believe that the continued success of these efforts will improve the health of our community will ensure that every child has the equal opportunity for success and we shouldn't take our foot off the pedal we should push down a little bit harder in order to reach as many people as possible so thank you for your work, thank you for the presentation Supervisor Caput Keep up the good work I think this is wonderful what you're trying to do and keep it up and whatever the others said I'm behind them, thanks Thank you I'll open it up to public comment for members of public to speak to us if they want about this item Thank you, thank you for that good report it is heart hitting and as a mom whose kids are grown it happens in a blink of an eye so thank you for supporting the young members of our society I do have questions what is the county's profile like for these clients that you work with what is the what is the status of healthy births in the county or not healthy births what do we need to do to really address and the question that keeps coming up in my mind are the homeless, the houseless families those who may be pregnant and are in substance abuse how are we working with them and how are we going to help support those children those beings coming in under those circumstances so I would thank you for the report it's very good I would appreciate more information about the demographics of who it is that we're working with in this program and also the money coming up is impressive I would like information about where that money is coming from you mentioned several state funding sources are there also private donors coming in for example the community foundation or something like that who is it that's really our partner here out there and I would like that information as well and I'm happy to see that Cabrillo college early childhood education program is being partnered with also that's a great program and we really do need to value those students and what they will and are giving to our society and support them in any way they need whether it be housing or what it is and I also have some questions about the foster care piece how much of your work goes to foster care people and families there thank you good morning honorable supervisors my name is Alisa Arona and I'm the executive director of the health improvement partnership I want to thank you all for your vision and for your investment in the thrive by three program partnership has been very closely part of this work and it has been an honor to do so what I'll say about the work of the safety net clinics is that you know this really does require workflow changes it requires investment changes at the ground level of our health providers and when we come at it as a team and when we bring resources to the table for them to really devote the time and energy then we can see the result of over 90 members of the health care teams at Santa Cruz community health centers and salute trained in the first the initial kickoff of the healthy steps program in this year that's now underway we're looking at extending and keeping that training ongoing and we're going to see the change in the delivery of care at you know within the clinics ourselves so this is really exciting what I can also commit to is that we are really working on strengthening the health information exchange capacity here in our community so that the navigation that we talked about that can happen you know for a patient in an exam room or with a health care provider can also extend outside to the community of service providers so we're really committed to making that work so that nurse family partnership and our home visiting programs can communicate with pediatricians and with other members of the care team this is how this can all really knit together and when we think about innovation we think about the power technology we and this community can make something like this work so just want to tell you all that we're at the table and we are very much committed to this process and to them you know really the ability of this community to pull something off thank you for your work on this thank you for your work and as a 30 year teacher taught over 30 years for second and third grade a mother and my daughter is now 51 I'm always prioritized health and assuring a healthy environment I was one of the nursing mothers in the lawsuit to ban DDT in 1969 carcinogenic pesticide found in the milk of all of us nursing mothers pretty horrifying that chemical corporations can poison everyone now the toxic exposure to children all that you're trying to do is even more intense and two focuses I have and I'll leave some literature here is that vaccines are not safe they all have toxic chemicals this is a list of what's in these vaccines and proof in part that they're not safe is that in 1986 they pharmaceutical industry got past the vaccine childhood vaccine injury compensation found and they were removed from all liability and since then vaccine profits have skyrocketed so all these children are forced now to have these toxins injected into them that's not healthy the other focus is on the exposure to the microwave radiation from wireless devices cell phones wiped by et cetera that should be removed from the harm from the environments I'll leave you three items here for the board and for you thank you I should say that I'm proud that this program works with moms to get appropriate vaccinations so that we avoid the lies that have been spread and are creating public health crises around the country anyway next speaker my name is Lisa Sandoval and I'm with Paro Valley Unified School District the Child Development Department and I just want to thank you guys the board of supervisors and first five and public health and everybody else who's been a thriving partner with this program I just wanted to share briefly with our district what it's done is help support the teen parent program and in particular our infant development center at Watsonville High School where we were able to purchase effort at the first time ever a play structure to help gross and fine motor development with the children for outside activities as well as increase our amount of parenting materials that we were able to support the teen parents with through that also educate them on the support and child development of their children also just a brief statistic from the last two years all of the students who participate in the Thrive by Three are still on track to either graduate high school or have graduated high school and are now at Cabrio or a secondary program to continue their education the program also helps support funding for our point of system migrant seasonal program and we were able to support some of the infants in that program as well receiving parent ed and additional supplies to help their education process starting at their program starts at two months the infant center at Watsonville High takes children as young as four weeks so that the teen parents get back into school that's it so thank you thank you for your work good morning members of the board I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist and the program manager for the families together Thrive by Three program of encompass community services and I've had the privilege of being involved in the implementation of Thrive by Three at the program level since around January of 2018 I love my job and this initiative is very close to my heart it's close to my heart not only as a service provider who was born and raised in this county and has provided services in this field for over 15 years but also because I am a mom of a two year old boy and a pregnant mother with my second on the way so I click one of the criteria boxes as the candidate for this program however I have not experienced a fraction of the hardships, economic instability and life stressors that many actually all of our families have experienced and continue to experience on a daily basis through my son I get to witness the massive development that happens in the first three years of life and I could re-quote many statistics that you heard today regarding the importance of investing in early childhood development programs however this morning I'm going to simply give voice to a couple of families that we have served information has been changed for confidentiality so I want to say thank you from the mother who has spent sleepless nights worrying about her child's delayed development with San Andreas regional center and the pediatric therapy center all of the 3x3 system of care partners utilize a screening tool that flags for fine gross motor deficits as well as emotional deficits thank you from the mother who no longer has to keep her child in a dirty diaper for longer than she wants because she had to make the choice as to whether to buy diapers or pay her electricity bill to keep her child warm and 3x3 has provided her with diapers thank you from the mother who had a gun held to her head and life threatened by a violent partner while her children were sleeping in the room she has been able to process that traumatic event with the 3x3 clinician and then be linked to resources that will help her and her children stay safe so those are just a couple of snapshots I had more but I'll stop I think you're part of this program so you should keep going thank you thank you from the mother who is struggling with a perinatal mood and anxiety disorder who just needed someone to help pull her out of the darkness so that she could take care of herself and then be better able to take care of her child she is now attending a new mother support group and is receiving proper care from her doctor and psychiatrist through referrals and warm handoffs that were provided by 3 partners thank you from the father, father figure or partner who was struggling with supporting his partner during the 4th trimester and did not know how to bond with his newborn daughter he and his partner received some short term couples counseling and he learned ways to bond with and support his newborns development during tummy time and several related activities taught through the promoting first relationships curriculum and thank you from the young mother who is experiencing her first pregnancy and is learning the importance of prenatal care and how it relates to both her and her baby's long term health outcomes again, this is just a snapshot of some of the families served and the work that's being done through this initiative but there's still much work to be done in our county children are precious and they deserve our investment and so on behalf of myself my team and families together and the families that we serve we thank you for your continued support of this dedicated funding stream and your commitment to invest in our county's youngest and most vulnerable citizens thank you those are powerful stories that concludes public comment if there's anyone else who'd like to speak today and I'll bring it back to the board or actually there's no action so we'll just express our gratitude to you the team Miss Perry thank you for coming and everyone and we look forward to continuing to do this work and hearing more about the work you're doing on a daily basis thank you so much we are going to move item 10 which is the 2020 growth goal to be right at 130 and then when we will then consider the study session to discuss the sustainability policy and regulatory update since there are two planning items and they sort of group together nicely so we will reconvene at 130 for item 10 and item 12 for the Santa Cruz County Board of Supervisors on September 24th 2019 we have two items the first item that we'll be discussing is item number 10 which is a public hearing to consider the report on the year 2020 growth goal refer the matter to the planning commission for consideration and recommendation to the board and to continue the public hearing to establish the year 2020 growth goal to December 10th 2019 as outlined in the memorandum of the planning director good afternoon to the community and members of the board so as you know the county's growth management system was instituted in 1979 following the adoption of measure J and this was to address the resource and public services impacts of the population growth in Santa Cruz County as part of the growth management system each year the county is required to set an annual growth goal for the upcoming year the 2020 growth goal report is before you today and for consideration of the planning commission this report examines various factors used in establishing the year 2020 growth goal for the unincorporated area including analysis of population growth trends resource constraints and the status of the current allocations available for 2019 this year's report also includes analysis of demolition permits and the density bonus projects approved in the past year the regional housing needs allocation and the ADU report as noted in the growth goal report the unincorporated area's population decreased in both 2017 and 2018 with an estimated negative 0.62 percent growth rate last year all jurisdictions across the county saw similar negative growth rates or essentially stagnant growth rates during the same time and the county as a whole also saw declining population totals in recent years while the state's population continues to increase California's growth rate has also decreased in recent years this represents a continuing downward trend of population growth rates in the decade since the 1960s and 70s when the county grew much faster than the state the growth goal report also summarizes the current status of the 2019 residential permit allocations this year 42 allocations have been granted as of August 1st if demand continues at the current rate 72 allocations will be granted by the end of this year and it will mark the highest number of allocations granted since 2007 however demand for allocations continues to remain low compared to previous decades and we anticipate that there will be more than enough permits available for the remainder of 2019 the growth goal report recommends that the population growth rate be set at 0.5 percent for calendar year 2020 rounded from the state's growth rate of 0.47 percent for 2018 and the same rate that has been adopted every year since 2001 this would result in an allocation of 255 market rate units available for the year 2020 unlike previous years allocations will be distributed between the urban and rural areas of the county at a 75 percent to 25 percent ratio this is in order to recognize the greater potential for infill development in the urban areas of the county and the 2020 growth goal report recommends as in previous years that the unused market allocations from 2019 be carried over to 2020 in accordance with policy 3.2 of the general plan housing element this would result in a projected total of 439 market rate allocations available for 2020 staff has found that establishment of the 2020 growth goal is exempt under the California environmental quality act and a categorical exemption will be prepared before staff recommends that the board 1 open the public hearing to consider the report on the year 2020 growth goal refer this matter to the planning commission for consideration and recommendation to the board and 3 continue the public hearing to establish the year 2020 growth goal to December 10 2019 with direction to planning staff to return with the recommendation of the planning commission and a resolution for final action by the board this concludes the staff and I'm glad to answer any questions you might have. All right, do we have any questions? I'll say, Athe, thank you. We're fine. All right, pleasure. Leopold. Thank you for the presentation. It's always interesting because the community doesn't feel less populated but we always see these numbers ticking down. Are you aware of any projects of a scale that would cause us to see a significant increase in the use of permits? 2019 saw a modest uptick in activity but to us to even reach the level of just for this year would be a dramatic impact and I'm wondering how that would happen or if there's any plans for it. You're right. It would be a very dramatic uptick in permit activity for us to meet the goal. In fact, we haven't come close to meeting the allocation in a very, very long time. So we've set it in the standard rate for now. We don't foresee any big projects coming forward. Last year we discussed assisted living units and those are considered commercial developments so they wouldn't even count. A lot of our activity has been actually in the ADUs and they're considered affordable so they don't count so we think it will continue to be pretty low. The ADUs and the affordable housing what would be the number of permits there? Curiously. We did do a pipeline analysis of lots and whatnot. We were showing a demand for 133 altogether so you might see a good percentage of that. Affordable in ADUs. That's for total but you could see a good percentage of that being affordable. Or ADUs. Thank you. Thank you for your work. Is there any public comment? Thank you. First of all I want to make a comment unrelated about this new system that's available to the public to use for plugging in our own devices. That's really great. Thank you. I would like to speak to the issue of water in the mid-county area and in general on page 12 of this report it says that there are grant applications in progress with the internet with the regional water management foundation and that those are due to be coming to fruition late this year. I'd like to know more about that. I'm watching carefully the issue of water in the mid-county area and I do think it should be included in there that the Soquel Creek Water District Pure Water Soquel Plan is under litigation and may not happen or could be delayed. That's not mentioned at all. I'm suggesting that Central Water District is the only sustainable am I limited to two minutes? Yes. Central Water District is the only one with a sustainable groundwater level however the hydrologists for the mid-county area have said that by and large the groundwater levels within the mid-county basin are at sustainable levels now so that really needs to be corrected. There are very serious problems with water contamination in the mid-county area Soquel Creek has had to shut down one well in the seascape area due to one, two, three trichloropropane and it is toxic and they are looking at hexchromium that is also causing problems and in fact two schools have contaminated water and should be receiving bottled water but are not refusing it. I want to know where the Measure J units in the Aptos Village project Phase 1 are I have seen no talk about that at all I should be seeing talk about that at all. So where are those Measure J units in Aptos Village project? Thanks for giving me two minutes. Thank you. That concludes public comment. I'll bring it back to the board for action. Professor Brun. I'll move the recommended actions also just want to make a brief statement of not just appreciation but a recognition that although this is not an ADU update per say it's clear just from these numbers that our ADU policies and the modifications we made toward affordable housing are actually making a difference since over now half of the units were affordable and I think a lot of it has to do with our changes in ADU policy. So commit those changes. So we got a motion by friend second by Caput all those in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? That passes unanimously. Thank you very much. Moving on to our next item which is item number 12 which is to conduct a study session to discuss the sustainability policy and regulatory update review the scope and contents of the general plan local coastal plan policies and county code amendments and review how recent changes in state laws and county codes related to the housing influence the effort as outlined in the memorandum of the planning director. Good afternoon chair Coonerty and supervisors my name is Stephanie Hansen I'm the principal planner for sustainability and special projects in the planning department and with me today is Kathy Malloy planning director today we'll be discussing the proposed sustainability policy and regulatory update to the county's general plan local coastal program and county code maybe. Oh down thank you okay we'll get there this session was requested by supervisor Leopold back in March when the board approved the request for proposals to solicit proposals for the preparation of the environmental impact report for the update specifically we were requested to look at the scope and elements of the sustainability update that have changed since the original adoption of the sustainable Santa Cruz county plan including information on how state laws and local land use changes with respect to accessory dwelling units and the density bonus bonus density ordinance would interface with the changes to get us started we'll review the history past actions that have gotten us here to date the proposed amendments status report and where we are with the development of the amendments and new laws that need to be addressed including next steps moving forward including environmental review and public outreach. The sustainable Santa Cruz county plan also called the SSCC began back in 2011 after the county received a sustainable communities planning grant the purpose of the grant was to fund land use planning projects that implement strategies to promote equity strengthen the economy reduce greenhouse gases and protect the environment and promote healthy safe communities. The SSCC was accepted by the board on October 28th 2014 as a planning plan. The SSCC's high level guiding principles link land use and transportation planning and strive to improve the quality of life in the county by reducing vehicle travel and increasing transportation options expanding housing types protecting natural resources promoting healthy neighborhoods and increasing economic vitality. The bullets in this slide represent a summary of the guiding principles in the SSCC development of the plan involved intensive public participation with a series of workshops that were held throughout the county between 2012 and 2014. There were 16 total. These included both visioning and plans for focus areas. Visioning began with a discussion at the first workshops and included three main questions. What does sustainability mean to you relating to the concepts of environment equity and economy? What are the ways in which we can become more sustainable in Santa Cruz County? Of the ways to achieve sustainable communities which ideas are most important for our county. There was also an advisory group and many stakeholder meetings. The board accepted the vision statement and guiding principles based on community input. Several of the key points included concentrating sustainable infill development within the urban transportation network and encouraging community development near transportation corridors and high activity areas. This slide shows the potential future land use and transportation pattern for the urban area which was the geographic focus of the SSCC. The red star and the red shading around it indicate regional employment centers. The red circle with yellow shading indicates neighborhood activity centers. The blue lines are secondary transit corridors, the white lines secondary transit corridors, and the green dash line is the Monterey Bay Sanctuary Scenic Trail. Based on the identification of the activity nodes, the presence of vacant and underutilized properties, the desire to learn from closer examination of different geographic settings for focus areas were studied. Focus area one was the medical district featuring mixed uses around Soquel Drive. Focus area two was service commercial uses with new multifamily residential. Focus area three, upper 41 employment district. Focus area four was mixed use and residential neighborhood around 17th and Brommer. The focus area concepts in the SSCC reflect the consensus based preferred alternatives determined through the planning process. Within the focus areas, the community identified key opportunity sites where potential redevelopment could occur. A fifth focus area was also studied to develop recommendations for improving circulation in the Aptos town center area. The SSCC resulted in recommendations on both land use and transportation. The land use recommendations included a focus on mixed use infill development, better utilization of multifamily sites, more options for housing types, support for the development of medical facilities within the Soquel Drive focus area, development along transportation corridors and key opportunity sites. Transportation recommendations included created a multimodal transportation system, multimodal being the utilization of all available modes of travel including highway, transit, non-motorized and demand management strategies. Complete streets means accommodating all the users in a right-of-way, but this is difficult to do when the right-of-way is constrained as in many areas of the county. Therefore, a layered network approach was recommended for all users by prioritizing different users on individual streets so that when the network is taken as a whole, a complete streets are accomplished. Updating the design criteria is roadway typology system in order to accommodate the layered network approach. Parking supply management tools may include reduced requirements for studio one-bedroom and two-bedroom units including maximum distance for shared parking, reduced maximum on-site parking in transit priority areas. Recommendations also included utilizing vehicle miles traveled and I'd just like to go over this a little bit because it has other ramifications as well. Senate Bill 743 passed in 2013 with the intent to balance the needs of congestion management with statewide goals related to infill development, the promotion of health through active transportation and the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. Specifically, the bill defined transportation impacts under CEQA and moved them from level of service which identifies automobile delay at intersections and roadway segments to vehicle miles traveled or VMT which identifies the total number of miles traveled in automobiles that are associated with a project. The State Office of Planning and Research updated the CEQA guidelines in December of 2018 to allow the immediate use of VMT for jurisdictions and require all jurisdictions to use VMT by June 2020 as a CEQA threshold of significance. As provided in the county's climate action strategy planning and public work staff now require that new developments subject to CEQA analyze VMT associated with projects and if necessary mitigate impacts to lessen significance as defined in the state's technical advisory on VMT. Level of service information regarding impacts on county intersections and roadways will continue to be provided and assessed with projects considered to make improvements or pay traffic impact fees as necessary. Since the finalization of the SSCC in 2014 the board has taken several actions to direct the implementation of the plan. In 2015 the board reviewed drafts of development standards for the new zoning districts which will review in an upcoming slide. The board also improved the updated general plan housing element and directed the preparation of accessory dwelling unit and other near term housing and code amendments. In 2016 the board directed staff to prepare the pleasure point commercial corridor vision and guiding design principles, the Portola Drive streetscape plan and the countywide commercial design guidelines. The board accepted the vision and guiding principles and the Portola Drive plan in December 2018. Environmental review of those documents has been folded into the sustainability update. The board also approved affordable housing ordinances and separated out some immediate tools as near term housing amendments. These included accessory dwelling units ordinances developed between 2016 and 2018, enhanced density bonus inclusionary housing requirements and the R combining process which were adopted in March 2019. The permanent room housing amendments which were adopted in August 2019 and agriculture employee housing elements which will be presented to the board before the end of the year along with proposed amendments that would allow 100% affordable housing on PF zone sites and school employee housing on school properties. So now on to the scope of the sustainability update and the current work program. Work items in the sustainability update will amend the general plan and local coastal program as well as the title 18 of the code. The goals of the project are to update the general plan and local coastal program and county code to reflect recent policy documents, regulations and sustainability goals and to enhance the general plan and local coastal program to be more clear and user friendly and clarifying augment the county code also known as the code modernization. The state office of planning and research general plan guidelines were amended in 2017 and they provide requirements and guidance for general plan amendments. Since portions of the general plan have not been updated since 1994 some amendments will aim to bring the document up to current standards. New requirements in the general plan guidelines include addressing environmental justice and healthy communities and climate change. General plan must also be consistent with regional plans including AMBAG's 2040 metropolitan transportation plan and environmental community strategy. AMBAG's 2040 population housing and employment regional forecasts, the regional housing needs assessment, also regional transportation commissions, regional transportation plan, Highway 9, San Lorenzo Valley Complete Streets corridor plan and the Monterey Bay Sanctuary Scenic Trail final master plan. Local coastal program guidelines were also revised in 2013 so there will be revisions particularly related to addressing coastal access. Finally, state regulations have been changing quite a bit since 2014 including a very strong focus on regulations to solve the housing crisis. We'll talk about those in a minute. The sustainability update will comprehensively amend the land use introduction and circulation elements of the general plan to reflect the SSCC. These will include new population housing targets to 2040 consistent with AMBAG's forecasts, integrated climate action strategies and policies, focus on sustainability emphasis in the SSCC vision and guiding principles, new land use designations and zoning districts which we'll discuss in the next slide and as well as multi-modal transportation parking supply and circulation including a comprehensive look at transportation projects that can help address the question in the urban areas. The update will partially amend the conservation and open space elements particularly the agricultural timber and water and groundwater policies. The parks recreation and public facilities elements will be updated minimally to be consistent with the park strategic plan and to ensure that facilities are adequate to accommodate growth and the community design element will be updated to include policies related to building design, relate to the new design guidelines include green infrastructure and be combined with the land use element and rename all of it to the built environment element. Other chapters such as chapter 4 the housing element which was amended in 2016 chapter 6 the public safety element which will be amended in 2020 and the new chapter 9 noise element will be adopted in 2019 will not be changed substantially if at all. Overall the updates will amend the general plan per the SSCC organizational recommendations. These improvements include eliminating redundancies between elements keeping the general plan more policy level leaving greater detail to the codes modernizing graphics and dynamic format for a more reader friendly document and reviewing policies as part of the actions taken in 2015 the board reviewed certain regulatory tools recommended in the SSCC and the planning department was directed to draft three new implementing districts. The residential flex district would fall under the urban high land use designation would allow for a mix of multifamily types at greater density appropriate locations would be along existing transportation corridors density would be governed development standards to restrict size bulk massing including maximum heights floor area ratios setbacks step backs for other upper stories and parking requirements to address concern for non pedestrian scale development these projects would be subject to design guidelines and appropriate siting. The workplace flex zone is designed to create dynamic employment districts to serve existing growing and new services. These would include a flexible range of commercial office light industrial and research and design uses would also allow for employees serving uses such as coffee shops and other small commercial services medical mixed use zone would allow a range of uses in specified locations these uses include hospitals medical clinics laboratories medical offices and the like as well as support services these would allow a four story buildings of up to 60 feet and the city would be contemplated for sites with 10 acres minimum. These would be subject to design review to ensure appropriate massing as well back in 2015 the board reviewed some of the proposed standards for the new districts and this slide is a summary of what the board reviewed at that time in conjunction with the initial phase of the SSCC implementation the board also directed the production of commercial and as mixed use design guidelines to ensure compatibility and concerns about our work program also includes establishing density ranges which weren't addressed at the time. Establishing standards for small lot single family developments a tool recommended by the SSCC and adding new and revised standards for R1 and particularly RM code sections. We will be creating new mixed use standards to better define the use of commercial versus residential standards in mixed use developments and reviewing standards for multifamily development to look at variable floor area ratios open space and parking requirements to better utilize multifamily zone property. Additional transportation changes include reducing parking standards for smaller units to support compact development. Working with the department of public works on the design criteria to update roadway standards, accommodating multimodal transportation via the network, addressing issues around reduced right of way roadway exceptions. At this time, the update does not include the development of standards for zoning overlays that were recommended by the SSCC. However, these tools will be accommodated as potential future strategies in the general plan. The update also incorporates the code modernization effort to clarify the code and make it consistent with the updated general plan. This includes code corrections but also changes to chapter 13.10 including updating agricultural uses to support new uses in markets and agritourism. Updating temporary uses and accessory structures, dressing wineries, breweries and weddings, outdoor storage and drive up windows. Chapter 1311 will be revised to address a new site development permit and design review and incorporating the design guidelines. Chapter 1650 would address agriculture, land preservation and protection. And chapter 1810 would be revised to modernize a permit approval and procedures. So as previously mentioned consistency with the adopted county plan requires us to be consistent with adopted county plans and new state legislation which will inform the amendments as well. County plans include the climate action strategy, the county strategic plan, the park strategic plan and the upcoming update of the long range facilities plan. Since the adoption of the general plan in 1994 several state initiatives largely focused on climate change in the earlier part of the century such as SB 375 sustainable communities and AB 1358 complete streets have been adopted. The sustainable groundwater management act was adopted in 2014 and requires groundwater management agencies to adopt groundwater sustainability plans to ensure the sustainability of groundwater resources. Jurisdictions engaged in major general plan amendments are required to coordinate with agencies to ensure the availability of water supplies. And as mentioned before we'll also be addressing disadvantaged communities and incorporating environmental justice as required by SB 1000 and other legislation. More recently state legislation has begun to focus on the housing crisis. Several laws were passed regarding accessory dwelling units. Additional ADU legislation is also the topic of several upcoming bills headed for the governor's desk this year. In 2017 the legislature passed SB 35 which provided a streamline review process for eligible multifamily projects. Projects meeting certain infill requirements or exempt from environmental review for them must be regulatory slash ministerial rather than discretionary meaning that if the project complies with applicable objective standards it must be approved. The law also provides more flexible density and parking requirements and reduce project timelines and extended project approval expirations. Concurrently with the update the planning department is also working on the process of collecting the objective standards that would be applicable to such projects and identifying the holes in our codes where additional objective standards are needed to ensure neighborhood compatibility and appropriate massing. We'll then propose standards that can be included in the sustainability update to address those holes. Staff will be presenting more on the SB streamlining and objective planning standards to the board and planning commission later this winter. By creating new zoning districts we'll be designing the development standards as sustainability update will help the county in meeting its goals under the regional housing needs allocation or RENA. The county's current RENA is 1314 for the period between 2014 and 2023 and requires specific allocations for housing affordable to very low moderate and above moderate income levels. As of the end of 2018 the county achieved approximately 32% overall RENA at about 50% of the way through the planning period. At this time the county has only achieved the sub allocation for moderate income housing. Right now AMBAG is currently awaiting the next set of RENA numbers from the state for the next 10 year planning period. Based on the allocations that are being provided to other communities our RENA numbers may be one half to two times greater than what they were one and a half, thank you to two times greater than what they were during the current planning period. The zoning districts and other revisions in the update will help us meet those RENA goals. In the past several years the planning department has been working to implement a variety of housing strategies to help address the housing crisis. These include ADU ordinances and outreach enhanced density bonus allowances and process for the R combining district as well as the most recent permanent room housing ordinance. While these new policies and codes would continue to apply to residential mixed use developments there are some restrictions to note. For instance only one ADU is allowed for single family dwelling. The enhanced density bonus program is currently capped at 30 dwelling units per acre if affordable and 26 otherwise and the R combining district only exists on very few sites and application to new properties would require rezoning which would be approved by the board. The upcoming agriculture employee housing public facilities and school employee amendments would further allow specialized and or affordable housing on certain sites but that will have little overlap with the amendments in the sustainability update. These amendments are expected to be reviewed by the board by the end of the year as well. The SB 35 objective standards that we previously talked about is a process improvement that will streamline housing on urban infill as required by the state but will not interact in a cumulative manner with the update amendments. In addition the legislature recently passed several housing related amendments that affect tools such as ADUs density bonus provisions and approval streamlining. These bills are now on the governor's desk for signature by October 13th planning department will return with an overview of the ones that are signed when we bring back the SB objective standards later this year. A little bit on the environmental process. The EIR will analyze the potential impacts of the proposed amendments. As a first step progress continues to be made to update the traffic demand model that will be used in the EIR. This work on the model establishes both the transportation and land use assumptions that will create the baseline of existing conditions and established future growth patterns. As the EIR alternatives are developed the upper limit of height and density standards can be analyzed which will in turn inform an iterative process to develop the draft standards that will eventually be brought before the board. Finally a quick snapshot of the timeline for the amendments in the EIR and where we are now. We're currently in the process of creating administrative drafts of the general plan and code amendments which is outlined in orange on the timeline. A notice of preparation for the opening meeting are being prepared for the release of the EIR in January 2020. There will be an extended 90 day or longer public review period for the draft amendments and the draft EIR during which time there will be community meetings in every district with additional meetings in the urban areas as needed. Comments on both the amendments and the EIR will be sought at that time. Draft amendments are expected to be released in mid 2020 on the EIR to follow in the fall of 2020. Public outreach will include new user friendly and interactive website for the effort that will encourage the public to explore the amendments by topic and allow public input. And the draft code amendment, general plan and code amendments will be available as necessary and released with excuse me, will be amended as necessary and released with the final EIR along with responses to comments which is expected in the spring of 2021. Planning commission and the board would have public hearings in the spring through fall of 2021 and final board adoption would be expected at the end of 2021. Finally, the coastal commission certification is expected in 2022. That ends our presentation. If you have questions, Kathy and Ari here to answer. We'd be happy to do that. Thank you. Okay. If anyone has any questions. Thank you. Thank you for the presentation. One of the reasons I was interested in us talking about this is because I was hoping it would provide some light on what we're actually going to be studying in the EIR. It's interesting to me that the board item that we had was pretty limited and then the information that we had in this presentation included some new information that wasn't in the board item. So I think we're going to have to work on when we share information with the public as to what we're actually talking about because there doesn't seem to be a complete match with the information being provided and what we're actually going to be putting in the document. So I'll give you a couple of examples. In your presentation, we didn't talk about the economic vitality strategy which is referenced in the board item. We didn't talk about cannabis which is also in there. We didn't talk about commercial weddings and special events. So and seascape beach estates combining district that I don't think my sense is that some of these are going to be part of the EIR but not all these things. I'm not sure what would be the cannabis part of it. It's just hard to wade through all the different things because of the amount of time we've had. Likewise in one of the items where we got a little bit more information in the board item about medical mixed use in the board item it had information about height, the floor air ratio, step backs, etc. But there was an item in here some other items that you might consider for different size lots. That wasn't included in any way in the written documentation. So it's just hard for me to get a sense of what it is we're actually talking about because it's difficult to wade through all the different portions of this. On the transportation element with the vehicle miles traveled I welcome a new way to take a look at this but at least what I understood in your presentation and you could correct me if I'm wrong is we don't know exactly how we're going to look at this. Kim Lee Horm is going to help us figure this out along the way and then there's going to be something in this document. Will we have looked at that here at the board first? Will we see it when the draft comes out? I'm just trying to figure that out. Yeah so that's why we wanted to spend a little bit of time explaining it. Part of what would be in the sustainability update would be to establish what the existing VMT is by very small zones so that we can understand the impact of the general plan and code changes on VMT but also so we can establish an existing threshold so that we can understand what that threshold is when it comes to new developments. So that's kind of a two-pronged thing and that would be established in the general plan as a function of this. So I get that that's our goal. I'm just trying to figure out when we'll be the discussions here at the board level. Will it be after the draft EIR comes out before it's sent to study? I mean you'll have some options but it's been a while now. It's acknowledged but the last direction we had when we started to bring draft code amendments that were fairly detailed before the board some of the members of the public were starting to get concerned that we didn't have the benefit of environmental review information as you were discussing fairly detailed draft proposals and so it's and we feel that at this point it's appropriate we've got the economic vitality strategy and all the cannabis information we have the commercial weddings draft proposal all of the things that we've been working on over time most importantly this is Stanipal Santa Cruz county plan there's a lot of information in there so what we want to do is distill it down into clear readable content and have the environmental and traffic consultants do some work with us and have that analysis be able to inform the refinement of what we would consider draft policies once we feel that we're at a place where we've got draft materials that are informed by environmental analysis and you know they pull together and they reflect existing plans and state laws and SACC and all that we would have the option to begin at some level to discuss it with the planning commission and or with yourself but I think I just still always have that caution about wanting also for it to be reviewed in conjunction with the draft EIR and that environmental review information that the public has been requesting so that is a long answer to that's why we are proposing a minimum of a three month review period for the EIR and draft amendments and I think that I understand the it's a lot it's a lot to absorb and I understand where your question is coming from as the person who is trying to sign off on the EIR costs I'm just trying to figure out what it is going out for the EIR and that's the part that's hard to grasp at this point because it hasn't been developed I mean we have both things that have been sitting on a shelf for five years and things that haven't been developed and we're going to try to put it all in one document and we're going to expect that the public understands I mean as outlined in the general plan it's basically a rewrite of the general plan or a mostly rewrite of the general plan save a couple elements which we're also taking up or have taken up right so so these are big changes that we're considering and it's hard at this point it's still hard for me to completely get how all these disparate elements are going to be shared in some way that people will be able to understand what the impacts are and for us to be confident that we're making a good decision I think one way to look at it is to realize that we will be using the Ambex 2040 population and employment forecasts and they're not that much different than the 2035 population employment forecasts that we had when we were working with the SSCC so I don't think you'll see really a lot of land use changes we are creating some new tools and some new policies around sustainability as you know and around our approach we look at transportation and the VMT and multimodal and all that but in terms of actual land use changes I think that will be fairly modest there will be some new tools and policies available for use but we expect that what we do as the land use and transportation workers is we take the Ambex forecasts and we use professional judgment along with the transportation and EIR consultants about where that development might occur Ambex existing transportation model and RTC's model already have that for the 2035 forecasts we'll be updating that to 2040 and we'll be asking ourselves what has changed and how much in terms of what our projected land use distribution will be from last time we modeled it so it's going to be fairly modest there's not a lot of population employment growth as you saw by the last growth goal report and so that's one answer but we expect that what we forecast will be consistent with the preferred alternatives in the focus areas that were accepted by the board yeah I mean that's to another point is we went out and had these discussions engaged the public in meaningful discussions I know I was there I thought they were pretty we got good information there was good exchanges but we're headed into year 7 since the meeting started we're going to be at year 10 when this thing is done that's we're making a lot of assumptions as to what people even remember as part of the discussions and so it's been complicated I would add that we then have made changes that weren't discussed there that don't reflect the same goals as the sustainable Santa Cruz County plan and so it's the public is which is generally suspicious of government will be doubly suspicious of government because they we had a conversation we adopted something we took on other policies which were not in concert with that plan but we have this we have this document that has a lot of different things wineries structures and driveways housing regulations transportation element it's going to be a very confusing document and it's going to be really important to have clear information or at least information and chunks that are digestible but the power point was a little bit better than what was included here although I don't think there were elements that were included in the written report and so I think it's it's a work in progress I'm also and looking at what we're asking the EIR consultant that you mentioned only briefly was the noise now we recently changed our noise element and so I'm just wondering what is what's going to happen in this part of the EIR and what should we expect there I mean the noise element has already been adopted by your board at the last meeting and so that is I guess considered baseline but in terms of its policies it's not substantively a whole lot different than what existed before the new noise element I think is a lot more clear and explanatory about what noise is and has policies and now we've got a noise planning ordinance that will be part of the code that reflects that noise element so we feel that those new materials which are now adopted won't really need to be this part of this EIR I don't disagree with you I'm just saying it's in the DUDEC proposal about a section on noise they have to address noise in the context of the general plan update and any of the county code events but we're not expecting any it sounds like major changes to it the recent changes will provide a baseline if you will of what the EIR looks like it's not new amendments to noise the question about state legislation and the rapid changes in which the state is looking at housing I think are generally pretty good there's some that I think does not accomplish our goals but that's neither here nor there for the topic of this conversation but since we adopted five years ago a set of new zoning designations are they still the right zoning designation given the changes in state law we're going to recall that when in 2015 we presented an outline of what the proposed new development standards would be for what we call the new tools resflex, workflex, medical mix use we specifically said that these numbers are at the upper limit of what we might consider because of CEQA and how it's structured you want to study the most intensive that you might possibly adopt and you could always go down from that so that's why I think that we probably will back off at some level from those maximums in certain areas because of the changes in state laws and the local changes we made to some of our provisions and I think that we understand that you'll want a lot of detailed analysis about just what that is and what options we considered in developing the final recommendations for what those numbers are I look forward to that again it's hard for me to see what that's going to look like and understand that and so again I hope the information we get from the EIR is telling enough to give us because there's few things that I can be sure of but if anybody remembers coming to these meetings they'll remember that we asked them about the height of buildings and they'll remember what they told us they may not remember anything about res flex or you know work flex but they remember that that makes sense to them it's just a word to the wise that we entered into that social contract we should do everything we can to honor that social contract and if we don't want to honor we should go out and tell people that we've changed our mind and do as the same sort of intensive process as we did to get their opinion the first time to see if it reflects where the community wants to be I mean we're not seeing any changes from what the public was told and what's in the SACC and as I just mentioned if anything some of those draft development standards were on the higher end it'll probably be brought down a bit because of all the different layers of other local and state opportunities if you will that have now come into existence I guess the last thing I'm going to get your perspective of how to share this with the public you talked in this presentation that we might see Ryan in numbers that it might be as much as two times what we have to take now but our growth analysis that just we just heard shows a population decline how do we go out and talk to the public about why we're going to have to provide twice as many housing units now and but the same time we expect a population to be decreasing yeah I mean it's going to be really interesting to see what the rena numbers really end up being for our region I mean we know that Southern California some of those areas are getting rena numbers triple from what they used to get is taking a much more aggressive approach in trying to ensure that local governments have policies and zoned land that's available to accommodate housing need and so there's this whole conversation and policies and laws at the state level all around all around that and with the threats of taking local land use control away of fines and penalties of ministerial automatic approvals that if you don't have adequate zoned land at the appropriate densities to meet the variety of housing needs in your adopted housing element and so this SSCC the general plan update we will hope that the coastal commission certifies it in 2022 that our next housing element is due at the end of 2023 this is the opportunity this is the vehicle to ensure that from a policy and land use zoning standpoint our regulatory framework can accommodate the rena and not be subject to these state pressures and all of that whether it actually happens or not is a function of the market and job creation and available land sites for development and a whole lot of other things but our burden and where the state is really pressuring right now is to have local governments at least plan for and accommodate it and that's what this would do and you bring up the housing element and I know we're behind on our timeline on the housing element do we have any sense of when that's going to be oh no we're fine with the housing element I know we have an approved housing element oh you mean in terms of housing production we set targets for looking at policies creation of units a whole bunch of things some of those were behind on and I'm wondering if there's a if it's in the work plan to sort of catch that up in terms of the housing element implementation of our existing adopted housing element well I think we've been actually doing pretty well in terms of implementing some of the policies and programs such as you know the ADU changes the ag employee housing school employee housing permanent room housing overlaid district a lot of those things you know per your board's direction you know we got started early on and we're finishing up on those now so you know that the ability to focus now on this general plan update you know will I think allow us to you know take a hard look at what else is still left in that housing element and address that yeah I'll get you some of the things that I don't want to get into a discussion about the housing element here I just I'll just reiterate it's important that we have information that's understandable that is the same from a platform to platform what I looked at this presentation versus the written material that was we're not there yet and so I want to encourage you to try harder to make it to increase the clarity we are putting together a special website which Stephanie could probably elaborate on better than I but we can we can post this PowerPoint with the notes you know so that people can read you know the information that was presented to you today and we'll keep populating that website again the first big next public opportunity probably will be when we release the notice of preparation in the EIR and we're expecting that at the beginning of 2020 there'll be a public scoping meeting where we reach out to people and ask for their input on you know what the IR should cover etc and we understand that this is a lot of material and a lot of existing documents both regionally and other agencies as well as our own are going to be reflected in this so we under you know we're working really hard to create a clear and you know distilled down version of that so hopefully by the time we're ready to go public with that draft material and draft EIR we can walk people through it at community workshops and have it be understandable it is a lot we know that. It's tough now and hopefully gets better so thank you. I just want to follow up on John's question because I mean I think combining the previous the growth goals where we're seeing essentially a stagnant or declining population and we have seen a significant number of house significant amount of housing built especially in the city of Santa Cruz and Watsonville and to some extent in the county yet we are all feeling housing crisis and seeing doubling rena numbers is that because we are losing a significant number of our housing stock in the second and third homes that people are no longer is that because we are aging at a rapid rate so we're seeing a shrinking household size is that like what's going on because if we took this to the community it wouldn't make any sense so what's the what's your explanation I think all of the above you know new family formation at a much lesser rate you know in terms of young people forming families and having children themselves and living here the cost of living job creation the Silicon Valley and second and third homes vacation rentals all of those things I think influence it cost of housing the cost is a huge one but in theory traditional economics worked you have declining demand and or stagnant demand and increased supply but it's not we're obviously not seeing that I think that some of what the state might be up to is having these numbers at some level accommodate addressing past unmet needs rather than only growth because you know the inappropriately housed the under housed the homeless you know all of these people that would make different housing choices if housing different types of housing units were available I think that's some of why the numbers in terms of what we should be zoning for are higher than actual population growth is that you know making up for past deficiencies is I think part of the I wish they do it where the jobs were have been and continue to be created and they have not created which is why we get the spillover effect here so then linking it back to this presentation I think the point I'd make is to the extent that to the extent that we're losing we're losing part of our housing to to use or we have the wrong type of housing I think we need to understand that trend so that when we are building housing after this update and code marzation we're building the right kind of housing we're not building homes that are conducive to being a second or third home we're not building we're building homes that are smaller units for families that are smaller than they have been in the past I think we have to sort of see where the market's going and then adjust our home supply so if we do build we're building the kinds of units that our community needs not not just sort of units for unit's sake I think you're right and that's the emphasis of the sustainability plan and the greenhouse gas reduction and all of that is at least get our land use pattern in better alignment with actual needs and the type of housing that's needed so that when development does happen you're using your available land efficiently for the right type of development rather than gobbling up with large lot single family homes et cetera right real emphasis on small units for seniors and for young people who aren't having families like they used to and I think that's kind of part of the missing element you know that we're not that we don't necessarily have and I would think I mean I think a thing to think about right is to the extent that we are doing density bonuses or trying to determine public benefit can we require that all the units be owner occupied right like can we can we try to position the market or position the conditions on the housing so that it isn't we are building housing that then becomes somebody's surf shack one week in a month right so I think thinking about how we make sure that it's housing for for the people working families and seniors and other people in our community the second piece and this relates to the state action is we have SB330 that's sitting on the governor's desk that seems to be a game changer in terms of essentially eliminating local land use control so in the context of of those rules assuming the governor signs it which I indications are he will what does that look like for this because it may it may be doing a lot of this work good and bad for us and we may not some of this may be trump you know overcome by state action so I think I would ask this forward that if the governor signs that you get us a memo you know a month later that says here's what here's what this legislative action did for the sustainability plan and here's what we won't have to look at going forward I'm not sure that they cancel each other out you know they may be compatible to some to some degree but SB330 is certainly going to kind of push the envelope as if you will you know to where where the state is really trying to get us to places that we didn't get to before when they thought they were doing that in terms of streamlining and environmental review and a lot of the things that SB35 tried to do so when we start looking at those objective standards our intent is to return to the board with what you can expect those objective standards to look like and give you a summary of these other housing forces that are approved. The two components that I'm not an expert in this bill the two components that seem to come from this is if if we're up zoning and then essentially the state is adding a density bonus on top of that given the conversations we have we should decide sort of how what density we want and then build it based on the fact that you're going to have this additional density right or bonus at the state so we don't sort of get to one place and then have that be the floor and something added in and the second part is it seems to me that basically we won't have design review over housing projects and so to the extent that we want to have design guidelines in this area we need to develop those because we won't be able to sort of through our traditional mechanisms look at design. Right that's where those objective standards are really important and we want to make sure we can fill the holes we need to fill because you won't have that discretionary ability in the future yeah we agree okay you know as Mike there are things that we can do with the construction of any new housing through with this workplace flex or res flex or anything I mean we have some tools in place right we can have we have a vacation rental ordinance that say if you get the res flex you don't get the vacation rental right I mean that's we could put that out there we could expand our inclusionary zoning to ensure that some of these new smaller other units are actually affordable for people because that is we're going to be challenged with affordability with these the construction of these new denser units if what we've seen already is an example of what's going to happen in the future which is you're going to have small units that are more expensive than my monthly mortgage payment right so it's there's a disincentive to even move to have someone as the age move if they if they can't afford these places that are expensive so there are tools that we have but I think your points are right on yeah and I I totally agree I think the to me the single biggest threat to this community is second and third homes that aren't vacation rental so you're just empty and we become Carmel which is essentially a failed community right so I think that's managing that part of the market is the part that I wanted we should think about I'm in favor anyone else have any questions or comments for open up to the public okay now open it up for public comment oh good afternoon supervisors my name is Rick Longinati with the campaign for sustainable transportation and you know I'm a bit confused about this and I'm making some assumptions that I hope are wrong but I was a strong supporter of the sustainable Santa Cruz County plan I thought the point of that was to channel development and onto transit corridors where there'd be lots of other amenities so you know workplaces that have a lot of people working people would go out to lunch be able to walk to their lunch and so on I thought that the zoning is going to follow that and what's going on now with these overlays and the flex whatever's and I just don't get it I hope that that fulfills the purpose but what my fear is is that an evasion of the purpose that will allow is essentially spot zoning so what we have now is you know we have developers who want to build something you know a workplace and they look for vacant land and it's not necessarily on transit corridors so I hope we're going in the right direction thank you thank you Becky Steinbruner resident of rural Aptos first of all I want to thank you Supervisor Leopold for bringing this to the public and forefront here for this discussion this afternoon thank you I'm in agreement with Mr. Longinati this is really confusing and I think that you know having sat through many of the code modernization public meetings those were very alarming and I feel like a lot of what was presented to the public at that time with the promise of an EIR coming at any time that a lot of it has already been instilled with cherry picking and that bothers me so I'm curious to see how all of this is going to be pulled together in an EIR with Dudek doing the work I will also be curious to see what the project alternatives are what would happen if we put instead of our dense infill along Soquel Drive and some of those places if we put it along the railroad corridor and that would support multimodal transportation with population densities nearby I was confused too with the the change suggested change in mixed use possibly considering 75 percent 25 percent mix instead of the 50 percent 50 now and that's the first time I've ever seen that so that's interesting to me the change in population is declining and so how are you going to sell these dense infill and also how are we going to do that with the level of service of intersections because we're seeing a decline in population but the traffic's getting worse so I'm curious to see how that goes and no one has talked about UCSC here today that's a huge driver in a lot of our housing and traffic things so that needs to be addressed thank you thank you that concludes public comment and I'll bring it back to the board there's no action because it won't be included in action I would ask that if we get a sign that we get a memo back from you a month later sort of walking us through what the implications of that are just a clarification we have to have four votes here is that correct no this is a non-voting non-voting it's just information informational I think it would also be helpful that when the notice of preparation is out that you think would be helpful for people to understand if we could get copies of that as soon as it's done that would be really helpful and also information about where the public sessions will be to you know those scoping sessions I think that would be very useful and I would argue that we need it more than just three o'clock on a Friday here in the board's chambers that we want to try harder than that and maybe do it out in the community maybe do it in the evening try to get people involved there's a lot of public education as part of this as we heard from the testimony typically we do it out in the evening in the community so with that we will adjourn our meeting to the next regular schedule meeting which is October 8th 2019 at 9 a.m. here in the board chambers thank you very much


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Live from Dublin, Ireland, it's theCUBE. Covering Hadoop Summit Europe 2016, brought to you by Hortonworks. Now your hosts, John Furrier and Dave Vellante. Okay, welcome back, and we are here live inside theCUBE for a special edition, European edition of SiliconANGLE's flagship program theCUBE. I'm John Furrier, my co-host Dave Vellante. Our next guest is Joe Goldberg, Solutions Marketing Head for BMC. Welcome back to theCUBE, good to see you. Thank you very much, great to be here. BMC, big data, the be in big, be in BMC. We're here in Europe, what's the update? Give us the update on what's happening at BMC. Okay, so from a BMC perspective, the specific set of capabilities that I'm responsible for is what we call in the traditional space workload automation, in a big data space, workflow scheduling, or Batch. It's a discipline that doesn't get a lot of press, even in a traditional space, nobody talks about Batch, they think about it as kind of real old school stuff, but it happens to be among the biggest portions of why a lot of companies are going to Hadoop and big data in the first place. So there's a lot of discussion about things like enterprise data warehouse modernization. And I think that that's probably just another word for trying to save a whole lot of money while being able to actually do a lot more with their traditional data assets and enriching them with all of the stuff that's being gathered and generated in society as a whole. And also the investments that's been made in the data warehouse, you can't just throw that away. Absolutely. A lot of pressure to save it, retool it, revamp it, or replatform it. And one of the big major components in any of this data management, whether you call it data warehouse, data lake, is the batch processing that has to be done both to feed it and maintain it, as well as to ensure that when you do trigger any of the stuff that gets all the hype, the analytics and machine learning and all of this fancy stuff, when it comes to business users, a lot of times they don't need or want live updates to the second. They need to be able to get the data when they want it and they want it to be up to date at that point. So to make sure you've got the right data at the right time, and then also give users the ability to request that data when they need it, most of the time that's done in batch. So people want to be able to run ad hoc reports, update their dashboards on an ad hoc basis, the care and feeding of the data lake, interleaving big data and Hadoop processing with traditional technologies that are going on in the enterprise. That's what we do with Control L. So I think a lot of what you say is true. I mean a lot of the EDW modernization ROI has been about reduction on investment, lowering the denominator. So the question is, how does BMC play in that lowering of the denominator? So Control M is an enterprise solution. We are the leading workflow, workload, automation, job scheduling, however you want to describe it, the component that makes sure stuff runs. So whether you're talking about traditional applications like inventory or customer billing and stuff like that, or in the modern environment of Hadoop and big data, the processing that occurs, we make sure that that stuff runs. And so since we've come at it from the enterprise, sometimes I resist saying that we're a 35 year old product because people immediately say, oh, that's old, it's old school, no longer fashionable, I want modern. I want modern batch. Yeah, well, and that's exactly what you get with Control M. So the reason we're the leader in our market is because we have kept it modern. We have added capabilities like auditing and forecasting and security and self-service and all of these kinds of capabilities that we now by adding support for Hadoop. And that's important, we add native support for Hadoop. So we are interacting with Hadoop in exactly the same way that the most modern tool using the facilities of Hadoop. So we have this intimate knowledge. We know how to start work in yarn, we know how to track it, we know how to kill it, we know how to control or collect its output. So the simple story from our perspective is that we make Hadoop as easy to operate as any of the other applications in your environment. And also letting you leverage all of your skills, your best practices, all of the resources that you have so that when you build your next application, whether it's a big data application or any other, you don't have to stop and think, how am I going to integrate this into my environment? How am I going to manage it? It becomes very simple. So where does yarn end and you pick up? What's the overlap? Are you essentially extending that functionality? So we don't extend yarn functionality but in the Hadoop ecosystem, we always use this as an analog so to put us into context. When people say, well, what do you do? We say, we're the enterprise grade Uzi. Okay, so there's a component in Hadoop called Uzi which is their workflow scheduler. But no matter how much you like it, by the way, we have almost, the only people I have ever met that said that they like Uzi are the Uzi committers.  It's complex, it's very limited. It's like, you look at any application and again, this I think underlines just how important batch is. No matter what application you look at, there's a way to run batch in that application. But of course, it's just for that application so it's limited. And if you look at an enterprise, you really can't run a mixed workload by using 50 different tools. You need to be able to have that higher level visualization. And so we operate technically exactly the way Uzi does.  You're yet another resource. Is that right? I guess so. Have it to Yarn. Yeah, exactly. So Yarn has a set of APIs for how you start work and how you track work and that's what we use. So technically, we operate exactly the way you would expect a Yarn based or a Hadoop workflow scheduler to operate. But what we do of course is that we'll let you then incorporate all of that work into the context of everything else that you're doing. So at the end of the day, the enterprises need their stuff up and running. Five nines, SLAs for their customers, your customers' customers at the end of the day, that's all they care about, right? So that's kind of one, that's now table stakes we're hearing that conversation on theCUBE. Absolutely. The other thing that we're hearing on theCUBE and certainly validated 100% at Big Data Week where we had our Big Data SV event in conjunction with that other event, Strata Hadoop, is that it's very clear now the revolution now that the hype's gone, reality's there, is that people, it's not mutually exclusive around Batch and this and data warehousing that Batch is big part of the value of Hadoop. And so this modernizing thing is not about one tool over the other, it's the coexistence of a variety of different things. But Batch doesn't go away at all. Exactly. But you got to maintain this modernization for new SLAs, mobile environment, which is bolting on to stuff that you're talking about. Exactly. So take us through that dynamic, because that's real, it's not just a bolt-on, it's not just a, it's really integrated. Talk about that. So again, this is exactly what we have seen. From our perspective, we're kind of very smug and sitting and saying, ha, ha, we told you so, that this has happened time and again. We've been around, let's say through the, take one example, the ERP sort of revolution, right? Everything was going to go away except for ERPs, of course, it turned out to be considerably different. But everyone went away except for Oracle. And SAG. And SAG. Yeah, well, and yeah. And a lot of others. And a lot of others. So what we have seen in traditional technology, and generally the technology adoption curve that really is pretty much applied to every single new technology. What we have been doing over that time, we started out on the mainframe. Sometimes I'm a little reluctant to say that because again, people say, oh, mainframe, like how could you possibly know Hadoop? But here we are at a point where we have seen, ERPs, relational databases, backups, file transfers, a ton of core banking applications, you name it, and they've all had the same requirement, which is you want to be able to manage it together with everything else that you have in your environment. Okay, and so you want to be able to leverage the GUI, the processes, the best practices, but there has to be some kind of balance between the sort of lowest common denominator and capability in that environment. So you talk to an SAP person, you can't say to them, oh, we have a scheduler for you that doesn't really understand SAP, but it has a really nice interface, right? It's kick ass, yeah. They're going to turn you off immediately, and so there has always been the need to find exactly this balance, how deep of a technical integration do you have to have? And what we've been able to achieve is a design in our solution that allows us to provide a very low level of integration, really deep, intimate understanding. So when I say that we're using the APIs that Yarn provides, this is like the industry standard. Anybody who wants to run work in a Yarn environment, that's the way that they would run it. So we use the same way that the most sort of native Hadoop tool would integrate with Hadoop, which is starting work and being able to understand its status and getting the output. So we do it exactly the same way, and that's why we use Uzi as an analog because we do it exactly the same way. Back in 2011, 2012, when the enterprise companies woke up to Hadoop, the theme was, we're going to make Hadoop enterprise ready. And today everybody said, that's essentially what you're talking about having done. That's exactly right. And so we were one of those, I would argue that it was later than 2011 or 2012, I think it might be around now. And you know, we were, I think we were actually. It was a couple of years after we started talking about it. So that's when we actually started. We were pretty early in the game. And certainly you can even see here on the show now, on the show floor that very few of the kind of companies that we traditionally compete against are really here. And if they are, it's with some niche solution that they may have acquired. We still feel we're one of the few sort of traditional IT management companies that in a big way have really committed with our existing tool set that organizations have been using for a long time and are expanding it to include Hadoop as yet another, just another application, which we think is a good thing. Because that's what we think is enterprise integration is. Exactly. And that's what people want, they want integration. Yes. So I've been sort of writing down the business impact of all this stuff, controlling them in particular. So it's automation, which means simplification and lower cost, better quality, fewer errors. Absolutely. Availability I guess, speed, am I missing anything? Did you read our data sheet? Is that the business impact? That's exactly the business impact. When people bring you in, they say, how much am I going to get out of each of these factors? And that's what's satisfying and gratifying to us is it's exactly the same situation as what happens in a traditional space. So if we look at our traditional market, there's still companies that don't use our solution or don't even use any of our competitive solutions. And we also, another analog that we use to kind of compare ourselves to is we say, Uzi is the cron of Hadoop, right? And so you say that to anybody who's familiar with managing an enterprise and they understand exactly what you're talking about. They're struggling with a lot of their users and developers for a variety of reasons, running mission critical jobs using cron. And of course, you know, typical Murphy's law scenario, nobody knows or cares until something breaks and then they can't figure out what the heck is going on, who owned it, how did it get created, all of these kind of problems. So this is the situation that we are solving for customers that are moving to Hadoop where they have the same kind of issues. In fact- You get a good point, the cron job example is a good example. And that's why we see SQL never going away. People are familiar with their command line and their tools that they use. And that's just, you know, why change that if they don't want to, but if they extend it. Yeah. Yeah, and what's really interesting is that, you know, there's another, that's what's so fun about being in the tech industry. There's always something new coming along. So- That's right. That's why we love doing the queue. So possibly in parallel or, you know, there are certain dynamics that maybe, that one affects the other. But one of the other things that's happening for almost every enterprise is DevOps and what I would call, you know, the Hadoop world talks about their solution as the modern data architecture. Well, organizations are looking at a modern application release process, right? And so that's another aspect that really is kind of dovetailing with what we're doing in the Hadoop space where one of the reasons, so, you know, why do people use tools like Uzi or Cron? Frequently it's because that's what the programmers have access to and the, you know, traditional sort of enterprise structure where IT owns an enterprise solution and has sort of, you know, a gate around it and they don't let anybody outside of IT sort of mess with it. That dynamic is significantly changing as a result of the need for speed and to deliver new services and this whole DevOps thing. And so what's happening is that we are having a lot of conversations about ControlM coming from the enterprise and being an IT centric solution in the past. We have now added a lot of capability and exposed our product and all of our solution capabilities with RESTful APIs and so forth so that you can embed ControlM into this modern application release lifecycle, rather. So you can start using ControlM right from inception. So the reasons that we heard time and again, why does a programmer use Cron because they can? They have access to it, they have full control and they don't have to worry about what happens down the road when that has to transition to production. And it's been a mess. Now, and you know, this has benefit to our entire market not just to the big data market but now with the capabilities that we've added, you know, we are enabling developers from inception to create workflows in ControlM using a notation that they're familiar with, you know, happens to be JSON specifically, but you know, that's just a detail. So now they're comfortable that they can build those flows, test those flows in their environment and let it move together with the rest of their application throughout the entire delivery pipeline. And you know, that's it, these two trends are really coming. They're colliding, coming together beautifully. Absolutely. Joe, thanks so much for coming on theCUBE. Real great to see you. Thank you very much for having us. So go over to BMC, bringing it all together, modernizing existing tools. This is the theme, building on layers of intelligence and innovation on top of existing great stuff. Thanks for joining and sharing your insight. 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