All right, separate traders. Good afternoon and welcome on back here this Thursday, April 20th. Shortly after 2.30 PM Eastern time, great to have all of our students and members alike inside our live trading room. Perhaps still sticking with us here. I know Sidney just left a moment ago. He made his days pay and dipped out. Had Sam with us here just before. Michael, if you're here inside the trading room, just give me a quick chat back if you can hear me loud and clear. And then for all of us in social media, Facebook Live, LinkedIn, Twitter, YouTube, the works should be good to go there as well. All right, there we go. Ravina and Wendy still with us here. And Phil, any word about Grant? Not just yet, Phil. But I was speaking to him yesterday, of course, in preparation for today, really the last couple of weeks. So obviously, I'm really wishing him well and his whole family. So I'm hoping to get word, perhaps maybe in a few days. I want to give him some space, of course. So we are all wishing Grant well. Perhaps he may be tuning in right now or family. So certainly wishing him the best and extending that to his family as well. So, you know, great to have Ron and Bobby with us here, though.  We're going to start off the stock on the screen here to begin. It is up big still. But just before, as you could see, nasty shake. I have my stop set right under three, which will take me out with a small profit on the second half of my position. I'm in from 290. It looks like it's about a blow. Yep. All right, well, I was kind of writing and was on the wall for this one just once it pulled back under the VWAP price. But at this point now, we're going to write this one off. We're not going to put this on our watch list at this point. This AUGX is a stock that we are pretty unfamiliar with. I don't think that we've really ever traded the stock in the past up until today. So for any of these like small cap, like low volume stocks, you can't really trust them as far as you could throw them. So that's where you got to say, hey, if this could build up and break above resistance, then there's a chance. So it popped resistance here, rebroke resistance, I should say, at the VWAP, but unfortunately it failed to break the next one ahead, roughly around 325. I was really looking to see 350 again, maybe 340-ish otherwise, but obviously pulled back below the VWAP. It took me out with an 8.7 profit on the second half of my position. I got out on the first half early, like kind of one of the, I think on this instance as it pulled up to the VWAP just to take half out at 313. But heading into the afternoon now, this is not the type of shape that you wanna have. So I'm gonna move away from this trade. I have no business with this stock anymore. Maybe I'll come back to it if it looks really good, then I'll think otherwise, but I'm not expecting that. So we're ready to offer right now. Well, let's go from top to bottom here otherwise with the market pulling back itself. You might have a couple of good shorts to work with heading into the close. Obviously we'll talk about AI. That has been an unbelievable drop after the first run up it had today. But hey, to begin, United Insurance Holdings, UIHC, this has had a wacky last few days. Really back from Tuesday this week had a big gap down and got clobbered as soon as the market opened up. Well, ended up bouncing a little bit yesterday. We were not expecting much at the time and we were not expecting much here today really. But we'll take this run. Ended up making pretty much a full recovery from Tuesday's market open. And now it has a potential gap to try and fill. Obviously there's a lot of historical data to work with in between the gap because it was running up from late February, March here. Looks like right around 285-ish, 283-ish perhaps. Oh yeah, definitely. 285, definitely gonna be a resistance there. So keep that in mind here for the UIHC stock. I'll put this on our main list here to begin the really nice stock in terms of price, spread, liquidity. It has all the makings of a good tradable stock. Just be careful of that historical top, 285 here. All right, we keep it going. CNSP stock from really the end of last week exploded 60 cents all the way up to 450-440-ish and tried pumping up once more this morning, ended up doing it early in pre-market, ran back up again after the open. So we took full advantage on this trade myself alongside a bunch of our students early after the market opened up. I can't stress this point enough folks, but this is why you stick with the list. 30 plus year pro and Fausto Puglisi is scanning the stock market for us to try and trade the market open. Why would we look elsewhere at first? So between CFRX actually, the CNSP, the UIHC, those were some of the best moves that we've caught on the day and then after the first 15, 20 minutes, then you dip outside the wheel box there a bit and see what else is out there. But yeah, CNSP now making the same type of drop-off here is like the other one, AUGX. So it doesn't look too good right now. And for as much as it pumped up the last week, week or so, you gotta expect for this to pull back at some point. It did that really from the beginning of this week, but again, I don't really trust it too much, especially after this last shakeout. SATX though, still showing a little strength. How about that? Nice move. Ended up breaking over a dollar early after the market opened this morning. You know, normally these cheapies below a dollar, you can't really trade them too often, but nice strength you're taking us into the afternoon meeting right now for this SATX. Looks like it tested historical levels earlier right around 144, that is, it's gonna say 143, 144, back from late February, early March, topped off there today, high of the day. So no surprise there, right? Just held so well here, ended up tipping off right at that price and pulling back, but that's not to say it can't break higher later on and it's making a pretty healthy move back up right now. So yeah, I'm gonna put this back on our list here, SATX. Got cheapies here below a dollar, not gonna focus on those. TNYA is stuck, we're not really too familiar with either. Kind of thin liquidity out there on the book. Had a nice pump yesterday off of seemingly low volume. And today, nice run right now at the highs, but I like the others so far. I'll put this on our side list here for right now, I'll come back to it at the end though. Yeah, bullfrog, BFRG now a stock that is also pretty illiquid, spread pretty bad and all of that, or spread will be bad over time, it's gonna fluctuate. But this stock we are pretty familiar with. We've traded this stock over the last two weeks. So we know how this stock trades. With that said, look out for a big crazy shake coming up because it popped eight and pulled back. Don't be surprised if this comes back down pretty quick before it potentially moves back up again. But yeah, looking at the chart, we're familiar with the stock at least. You know, hey, it's not a level one or level two stock and how we categorize it. But for any of our level three, I'd probably say even level four traders and up four, five, you know, follow this one if anything. All right, we'll keep it going here. I gotta kind of weed out all these cheapie stocks here. I got like CNMD, ASTI, jump over those, XPO and not really moving too well there. Now here's the CFRX trade. So one from pre-market, it doesn't look good now of course, but hey, it's not on the afternoon list, it's on the morning list. So with that in pre-market, it was moving up pretty nicely into the nine o'clock move with Fausto in the morning meeting there. It was dropping off a little bit heading into the open. So that was a bit of a red flag. But thankfully within the first five minutes of the opening bell ended up reversing, pushing back up. Get a nice run for us to capitalize on there, right? So topped off just over 250. And then from the one thing I will say here is that the volume died off pretty early on this, or rather I should say the stock peaked and then died off rather fast. So ended up just pulling back just shortly prior to 9.45 even. So if you're playing it by the cyber clock, hey, I mean, if it's gonna top off that early and make lower highs, perhaps the trend throughout the whole day, if not the majority of the day from that point would be down. So finally it's bottoming out here, but we have no business with this trade anymore, so scrap it. All right. Going down the rest of the gainer's side here. Presto Priest ended up making a little push earlier today and I called it out just before just saying, oh, I was trying to go back up, but hasn't gone anywhere really since. So not too interested in this just yet. Viru, V-E-R-U.  So perhaps look for a short squeeze on this over time. It tried it earlier this morning, but now as you could see making a bit of a lower high rounding off here around 117, 118, and maybe keep it in mind for tomorrow to wrap up the week, but I'll pass on here. Speaking of AI stocks, we had Bullfrog on our watch list. So why not look at maybe a couple others like GFAI? It's not looking good at all right now, but I just wanted to see. Now, obviously we'll show AI in just a moment AI ticker, but we'll look at the others first actually as we go through them. So SAI, not looking good right now, B-Hoo-Hoo. Obviously the rest are gonna follow AI. This one though, we did pretty well on at the open. BBAI popped it first, it re-broke resistance. I took this straight off 327, very well timed at least at the point because well, look at what we got here. I mean, geez, who would have thought today at 9.30 in the morning when this was popping and moving up pretty nicely at first, albeit it was only up one to 2%, but still it was a great sideless stock and it was moving up well. Students like Lewis inside our chat board, you know, were making money on this trade at first. Really good push. And hey, according to Cyber Clock rules right around that 10, 15, 10, 30 ish area. Well, it did top off, right? Pulled back, reversed. All good. But geez, you would have expected a higher low. You would have expected support to build. You would have expected if anything, like I mean, at worst case scenario, these tops here that are broke out of initially 265, 266, for that to be support, the rug completely got pulled on this trade. This was like a Christmas tree heading into the late morning and then it just kept dropping. It just kept pulling back and back. So don't get caught catching the falling knife, folks. Right now it's teetering around 21. Do not force it. So right now we're gonna focus on trend more than anything. More so than now at this time of the day anyway. Stocks at the highs, we look for continuation up. Stocks at the lows, we look for continuation down. So I would not look for too much upward momentum on AI. All right, so with that, let's just finish up the gainer side here. I kind of went off on a tangent since I saw GFAI wanted to rip the AI stocks altogether. I mean, hey, if anything, I'll put AI actually on our list as a short. It's hard to borrow my platform, but if you can get the shares to short this AI, then that's the move. So for anyone that can do that, actually I'll put AI specifically on our list for a short. All right, whole market's plunging, folks. So again, just because stock is at potential support doesn't mean it's gonna bounce. I mean, just look at what the stock market's doing right now. It's a complete free-for-all, free fall, which leads to a free-for-all. How about that?  Got bed-bath beyond, BBBY. I mean, I'm only showing this because we did well on it yesterday, but obviously that was a short squeeze. Comes right back down, dropping off with said market here. TSLL, all right, Tesla ETF. So as we'll jump to TSLA right now, dropping off two, I'll put this on our list for anyone buying puts just as a short opportunity and then otherwise TSLL seems to be said there just on the way down. T, AT&T, took a huge hit early this morning. It was on my side list early in the pre-market, but I didn't really put much focus on this trade after the opening bell. Hey, we can only catch so much, right? It was a really good morning for myself just across the board on the CNSP, CFRX, BBAI, even that little one, but I missed that on the short. Really good trade on AT&T. Now it's at the lows right now, so I'm gonna put it on our watch list as a short, but it looks really flat. So let's see if this could snap lower off of 1765, then we'll see if it could provide better continuation. Looks like the low here was 1783, close 1786. I would say 83 to 86-ish here could be a bit of a historical, kind of right where that line is. I know it's pretty far away from it right now and it branched off from it earlier. So I wouldn't necessarily want this to move back up here, but it broke below this historical level, so to say dip point back from the end of last year. So it's still at the lows right now. That's why I'm gonna call for the short right now, continuation on tape. Obviously Tesla, we talked about it already. All right, so folks, I mean, suddenly, we're gonna find a lot of good shorts with the market tanking right now. So if there's anything else looking good, I mean, on the way up, but certainly on the way down as well, type it in the chat board here. Inside the trading room from Warren says, Tee is one of my dividend stocks. I hope they don't cut us again. All right, well, I'm not too familiar with that at least as far as their dividend cuts or whatnot, but I mean, just the more this drops at least, you know, expect to find the next historical support. Now it's just more of a dip point. That's 1785, 84 here and it's below it now. So, you know, I would just look for 1750 as your next major level, likely to be a big iceberg on the bid there coming up. All right, I don't think I have anything else otherwise, folks, let me just check Benzinga Pro here quickly. If I could, I'll pop it up for all of us here live. So, not much really moving across the board right now. Just straightforward. UIHC, it's on our list already. BXRX maybe, let's take a look at BXRX, I reckon. All right, you tell me folks, Wendy Warren, Leda, Ravina and all of us here inside the chat board right now, does this look like a good stock? Looking at the chart kind of spotty, right? And with that, garbage, not worth our time right now that folks, if this is what Benzinga's pumping out to me, I think that we're at the bottom of the barrel here in terms of the scanning. Ron says TSLL moves like a snail. Well, right now it could be just given the market, but I mean, if we happen to see a break of support on Tesla, then it's gonna go with it of course. I mean, Tesla's flat as could be too. They just go hand in hand. Perhaps wait until 315, 330 as we always say, just that's the better time to follow the market. All right, let me just check the side list here. Lastly, folks, Coinbase, you expect for that to drop off pretty nicely. Bitcoin taking a bit of a drop today too. And with that, really not much traction on coins, so I'm gonna pass on it. GM, I mean auto stock, it's down four plus percent. Better side list stock, this actually looks pretty decent. Check out like the airlines, the cruise lines, the et cetera, is all that other stuff out there from the pandemic. Just like the gaming stocks, casino stocks, you name them. Check out my lovely NIO, NIO, dropped off earlier. This was down big today, but pretty flat, pretty slow here for the meantime. Lee, LI is at the lows. I feel like this could be more bang for the buck, a little bit better in terms of drop and trend. You know, you'd wanna see this break lower below 22.70 there, if anything, big volume filled off the lows there pretty much. I'll slip this one on there, if anything, LI. Get LI on there, not number one, but kinda near the lows, hopeful to see continuation. Should it break lower from 22.70? All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up for right now. I don't know why my cursor is glitching out on the screen there, you can see. All right, so for all of us here live right now, Wendy, Leda, Ravina, Ron, Sam, Michael, Anne, Phil, and Bobby, and all of us here live. Rich will be on the mic taking you into the close from three o'clock onward. For all of us on Facebook live, LinkedIn, Twitter, YouTube, the work, same. I appreciate you folks taking with us each and every day, each and every afternoon. Couple of options, folks, if you're interested in joining our live trading room, just go right down to the link on the green banner below the stream right there to get yourself started on a small week-long trial. If not, though, hey, if you have any questions before joining, any trades or questions that you'd like to go over with us beforehand, feel free to shoot me a quick email, Josh at ctutrading.com. I think there was only one stock I'd set up, come back to, and let me go back to that one, actually, show it the respect there. TNYA, it's at the highs, right? It's at the highs, so it's hard for me to ignore putting this on our watch list, but the spread's big, the liquidity is kind of thin on this, so that's where you gotta be careful. I'll slip this one on our main list here to wrap up. All right, folks, but otherwise, hey, I'll be on a coaching call with one of our students here if there's anything that we see as a good opportunity on our list, mainly here. We'll look to call it out. I'll tell you if we jump in anything fun and see where it goes. Lastly here, Lee saying PTPI from earlier at support. Been waiting a long time. It seems like if you're waiting for a bounce on PTPI, Lee, don't get stuck being in love with one stock. I mean, this had a nice pot for us earlier. I ended up taking half profits pretty nicely on the pot that this had in the morning, but then I wasn't expecting what happened, and then I got stopped out, break even on the second half of my position, thankfully break even, or even small profit at best, but this thing collapsed after. Lee says short, not support. Oh, my apologies there, Lee. So a little tip there. S, S means short, short sale. S means support inside the chat board there. There we go. So Lee means a short. Still either way. I'm gonna pass on putting this on a main list, Lee, if you are short on it now, and if you're making money, I'm rooting you on. If you are short and you're expecting the drop, I'll also be rooting for that, but it's just got such thin volume out right now that I don't feel like it's a great opportunity either direction just yet, but hey, if it drops, I hope that you do really well on it. Always rooting us on here otherwise. I would start and stick with this watch list at least here to begin. Again, we've just scanned the stock market for the last 19 minutes and 40 or so seconds here. So I would start and stick with what we have to begin folks, all right? But again, I'll be back on, or Rich will be back on, like I'd said, at three o'clock. I'll be in the chat board up until 3.30. I'll talk to you soon, folks. Take care.


ring the regulation forward To make adjustments that we can do that. It may be that the regulation is okay And it's it's really just the way the information is coming in that is problematic And it may be that you you're okay with the idea that it doesn't have to be a massachusetts operator Submitting the petition as long as you know that The an operator is standing behind the request in in some way shape or form So these are all just open issues at the moment and I think you could attack it from either direction Commissioners we wrote this over earlier we have Had a couple votes Or we've taken action. I should say on two How would you like to proceed? I am happy to take your cues on this the next item that Help the Grossman's alluding to is five B We have a good deal of work ahead of us Just want to be cognizant of time May I make a comment? Sure This is for commissioner skinner first She brought up an issue when it was touched upon by legal counsel and Karen If as one member who voted in favor Of the nrx you could make a motion to reconsider that vote And then we could go back and if you are uncomfortable you could then If we could get a second you could then vote no if that's what you so so choose to do I believe that's the process Councillor grossman correct me if i'm wrong. Absolutely right and On that note, I just wanted commissioner skinner to understand what she could do if she so chose to do In my opinion moving forward right now there was a request Under our guidelines put before us Under our current rags I have no problem moving forward with them voting on them or not. We may choose not to Make a motion to consider them I don't think we need to table this Today these six requests But certainly we need to have a discussion moving forward how we're going to address this But these are before us today. They were brought before us Under our current rags and I have no issue moving forward with them Dealing with them today now And actually, you know, I'm not gonna I want to hear what sterl has to say about the Considerations before us, but I'm not comfortable with a couple of them. So I think we only have a vote or two more to make Just just Just to be clear when when I'm presenting these events I'm doing so in the capacity of the sports wagering division. I have no opinion on any of these events understood Okay Madam chair I support commissioner hills position the way I look at this Right now as I sit is I would make a decision or Or not make a decision on these Put them to rest and if regulations change and they come back in a different manner And and submit under a different form. That's what they do And you know, I'm thinking about something else we're working on Where I'm not happy about the way the regulation is but I have to take the matter as the regulation is and And I regulation is the regulation just so you know, I was clarified in terms of the discretion I think we all agree that right now the petition can be anyone And the u.s. Integrity is the is the petitioner in this case So I don't think we're saying necessarily we disagree entirely with the regulation commissioner may not sorry to interrupt you No, I'm just my point is is that they've made the request would roll it over one time I would like to make a decision on it So and I agree so let's look at Richard Skinner There there was an offer in the event and this is not to encourage you or or not There is in the you suggested you were wondering about Your vote the first time around there could be a request for a motion for reconsideration should you so wish And I offer that to you now If there's been clarification It's useful to you And otherwise, I think we have number three in front of us At this time commissioner Skinner How do you feel I'm okay to proceed Just I'm you know, I'm more in the camp of Commissioners Hill and Maynard You know when I took the vote on the first when we took the vote on the first event I was comfortable, you know, notwithstanding Your concerns chair and your concerns commissioner, Brian I was comfortable In knowing that draft kings does Offer the event in another jurisdiction straps kings being one of our operators. And so, you know, I think that Based on the regulations that we have before us that are currently in effect. I I'm comfortable moving forward and you know, if I have Concerned outside of what's written in the regulations just in terms of the event itself Then I'll voice those at the right time I'll just one observation It did trouble me that a petitioner came forward without my eye When you know, we as a group had turned it down So we do from my perspective I I feel a need to be vigilant about what's good for massachusetts and You know, I'm looking for our licensees for a lot of guidance and we had great guidance from the three casinos on establishing the catalog and so This is kind of messaging to them commissioner Skinner that I I am hopeful for continued guidance from Our licensees to make sure we have the catalog that serves the interest best So, um, commissioner brian, you have your microphone off. No, I did. I wanted to reiterate that because to me Who I was disturbed when when draft king came forward and had not talked to You know the the bsa I am equally disturbed by the fact that us integrity came forward and didn't solicit our licensees and operators in as to this jurisdiction And so to your point, I'm worried about what's in the catalog and what's best for the consumers and the licensees In this commonwealth and so I'm not Going to be necessarily swayed or overly impressed that someone offers it somewhere else And so I was troubled by the fact that Even between when we had to bump it and now They hadn't done that and so I find that disappointing On on their part and I have some substantive issues with some of the others on this list as commissioner hill said But as a procedural matter and my role as commissioner for the commonwealth, I had issues with that But I'm comfortable moving forward today in terms of adjudicating votes on these Okay, well, and thank you for that. You know, we're we're all kind of Clarifying our positions as we go along here and I think that's Okay Just one may have one additional question When we and this is directed to sterl and bruce when the commission voted on The events catalog initially That was as a result of The operators putting forward those requests for events the cat one operators Yes, okay. And so presumably that is because or each event that is already authorized That was authorized initially I presume the requests Came from the category one operators because they intended to offer those events for wavering correct director wells, could you explain that process just a bit for Just a reminder stir. I didn't mean to interrupt but I'm just What we did because we knew we were going to have a larger launch of sports ray during the mass in massachusetts and we were doing these Retail operators first we had them submit All the things that they were asking for compiled that cross-reference those to come up with the original Categlog the sports ray during division particularly sterl went through to see if there are any of concern that recommend That we not do and then the commission voted on that full package Then the reg is here so that other operators including the mobile operators could add to that list If they wanted to so the I think the the core issue i'm seeing is this conversation develops is the question of Should it just be the operators that that request things or do you want the reg to remain as it is Where anyone could request it even if an operator isn't going to Expand that now the the team could go back and draft a memo We could put on a further agenda if if the commission would like a policy discussion on that and whether you should do that But this that's how we got to the posture. We are right now We had a catalog that was the methodology to get that initial catalog And then we do have sort of an open-ended process right now that we're following If there's a petition to add it we can always change that so You know, this is new and we're just this is helpful to the staff to have this discussion So we can figure out what's the best way to present this to the commission going forward And so with that I I'm going to change my earlier position On this I I would like to revisit the vote that that we took earlier and I I'm happy to propose a motion. I I'm Full of the reminder from Commissioner O'Brien that you know, there was a lot of Concern about the earlier request to have wagering on the Boston marathon Put to a vote without having the input of the baa and I think You know, I there are similar concerns here I I just want to make sure that that that we are Fully considering the consequences of our earlier decisions relative to this particular regulation Where we you know permitted Any person to bring these requests forward we've we've sort of fine-tuned Our processes in other areas And I I see this as another, you know, just an opportunity to do that here. So I would like to Move that And and Todd you'll have to help me a little bit, but I would I would like to move that the commission reconsider its vote to approve US integrity's petition to add nrx To the event catalog I have a second out of courtesy to my colleague. I will second that Thank you commissioner So procedural question madam chair is is the motion to reconsider then? Essentially a motion to vote no so an aye vote would essentially mean no to the request to add it to the catalog Or is there going to be a separate? We need to have it read read because Is And then We have to vote to reconsider first and then we vote and then a proposal is potentially made to say vote no Got it. So just to reconsider All right, and we have a second and commissioner hill across us. Thank you Commissioner bryan I commissioner hill I'm voting to reconsider alone I commissioner skinner I Mr. Maynard I And I built Yes, so five zero Now we're going back to the earlier vote. That was a three in favor of including Of this particular event I want to nrx In the catalog it was three in favor to opposed Now there's been a request to reconsider that vote. Do I have a motion? I I move Madam chair that the commission amend the official catalog of events and wages to include Nitro rally cross nrx is included in the commissioner's packet and discussed here today I have a second second All right, any further questions or comments on this? request Yes Yeah, when I moved to reconsider. I wasn't necessarily Suggesting that another vote be taken I guess I was more Hoping to advocate To have this matter put off all together I hope I'll go ahead out of I'll go ahead We do have a motion in front of us There had been some discussion around that and we were moving forward That isn't the motion in front of us to defer this matter Okay I do I did you did bring up the idea of revisiting the regulation and I know that is on for the agenda setting purposes We will revisit the regulation whether we'll change it or not is up to us But that is for future consideration. I have a motion right now um in for reconsideration No on the vote to on the vote right a second a bit If the the vote would have stood commissioner skinner, um without If you're saying that the motion for reconsideration was to somehow Stall the vote or not or what's the word wait the vote for that Right that vote and then maybe she was going to move Um to hold the vote. I think miss maybe what commissioner skinner was contemplating perhaps and I'm sorry to make this So messy But I understand that there's a motion Before us and that has been seconded so we can move forward With the full vote okay commissioner varian nay commissioner hill hi mr. Skinner abstain commissioner maynor all right And I don't know um Todd with uh to to abstain As the uh motion stand The vote does not carry So it's effectively denied for the time being Um, I would just add I if the if if I have this right This is essentially without prejudice. So someone could in theory bring this issue back with further information Uh that may satisfy the commission that it's right for inclusion in the catalog, but it doesn't carry right now right Does not carry. So right now um one and two Are not to be included in the event now. We have before us item number three which is um the um us from many trickle up associations Event us integrity is the petitioner Madam chair We've heard from sterl on it. Commissioner. How do you have a motion? I do I would move that the commission amend the official catalog of events and wages to include the us pro minigolf association As included in the commissioners packet and discussed here today second Okay, any questions or edits on this? Okay commissioner variant day for the same procedural reasons I discussed earlier Uh, uh commissioner hill I Mr. Skinner Epstein And commissioner may And I vote on may so again the motion fails all right um I'm going to go forward Perhaps we should ask the practical question Should we go forward if I can answer that madam chair? um You have three more requests. Um, I'm trying to be blunt. There's only one more that I'd rather see move forward And that is the street lead skateboarding sls the other two I think I need a lot more discussion about and a lot more Education about Okay, can I point out that with respect to number six? I believe mr. Carpenter would note that that is a Judged by a panel correct I don't know if that is a interest to you. Let's take it one at a time On item number four before sterl goes through his analysis. We've all had a chance to read the memoranda in the packet Do we have particular questions for sterl and in order for us to take action? We just hear for the record exactly what number four is for today's meeting Power slap. Is that right? The power slap is number four Questions for sterl on power slap. I must say sterl. I had to google it Yep Yeah, I Yeah The interesting thing is that there was all kinds of information on it on the google so um power slap If there are no particular questions with respect to governance, etc Would there be a motion to include that in the catalog? Madam chair I would actually move that the commission not amend the official catalog of events and wages to include power slap Is included in the commissioners packet and discussed here today second You want to add any color as to why um in particular you would say no I found the whole power slap thing to be quite disturbing And I just could not see myself supporting betting on such a an event It's as clear and cut dry as that Can I add just a and confirm sterl? Does this um particular event also have no set governing body at this time? Uh, it's power slap is um licensed by this the the navada state athletic commission But that's not a governing body, right? That's a license. That's that's who oversees all the events I mean the I'm sorry. They they're the one that license it. So, um US integrity attests that power slap has no governing body, but the league's power slap is licensed by the state in navada athletic commission They have no players association Their matches are determined by the navada state athletic commission. They have no they also Uh, place their integrity and gaming policies in their petition Okay, so there's um, uh motion on the floor Any further questions or of sterl? Oh, sorry, I have no further questions, but I just I stand where commissioner hill does on this one And the next one that at a time when we're learning about head injury and impact etc That that numbers four and five would even be on this list is appalling to me Commissioner maynard I I joined my fellow commissioners and I would say that I see no benefit to the commonwealth Um, that could be that could outweigh any of the the risks and the harms and so I for those reasons Absolutely, no Commissioner skinner you want to weigh in? I just to say that I am aligned with each of the my fellow commissioners on this Okay From we right now. We are looking only at power slap and not slap fight. Um So just want to remind that's what the motion is on on the floor but commissioner o'brien I commissioner hill I Mr. Skinner. Hi, mr. Maynard. Hi, I vote. Yes five zero Okay, moving on to slap fight um, if there are just There is in this case in your notes sterl an indication that Sports slot USA is the governing body and that us integrity remains petitioner with some interest from trackings and better In your notations, but they did not directly ask correct sterl correct Okay, is there a motion on or here Is there one that opposes? Including it or or affirmative to include Adam chair I would move that the commission not amend the official catalog of events and wages to include slap fight championship has included the commissioners pack and discussed here today Second Okay, any further questions or comments on this item All right, commissioner o'brien. Hi commissioner hill. Hi Skinner. Hi commissioner Maynard. Hi And I vote yes five zero Moving on to item number six sterl. This is us street league skateboarding Thank you As us integrity is the practitioner correct Who's the governing body in that case? um, so Street league skateboarding is an international skateboarding tournament the governing body of the event is street league skateboarding sls The petitioner has stated is aware of this request um, if asked When asked to offer in massachusetts us integrity said that draft kings has Have indicated that we will offer that they want to offer lines on this event Given the first event where the sports wadering offer and on sls We expect more operators to come to the table. That is what they said they also this was the event in which they said Was being introduced in chicago on the event on the april 29th during that time, uh, I reached out recently to draft kings And confirmed that on april 29th colorado, connecticut, tennessee and wyome and confirmed By draft kings did offer these events That draft kings did offer these events for wadring um It was the sports wadring division that wanted to point out that the winners of these events are determined by a panel of three judges Uh currently the language in our catalog is that it prohibits the type of event in section 12 and Although not stated for skateboarding since it is a new event Um in which the final outcome of an event is primarily based on the evaluation or assessment of a judge Or panel of judges is not allowed is language that is currently in our sports wadering catalog I also Wanted to note I tried to say as best I could in this packet that if you I noticed madam chair Stated during that meeting a while back For anyone to come forward if they had any information or um I just I don't know the wording but if anyone who was able to Or for any opinions or alleviate any concerns People might have of panel judging like in the olympics in um What not or Summer events that they could bring them to uh our attention Have we heard from anyone? We have we have not heard from anyone at this time. I did have I did come across one article about the um What happened with the Skaters and then how the olympics has moved forward from that but no specifics I think we did when we went through the catalog we did indicate we probably should revisit that at the right time so Just a note um That we can think about revisiting With with more information can I show Brian? I I'm probably the one that was the most troubled by the whole concept of subjective judging being involved on something That you could bet on I feel like the risk Of it being affected or inside knowledge is too great So that's I have a procedural issue with it. And then I also just have that fundamental issue The house how it's how it's judged And we could explore to find out other mitigating measures to to address those concerns, but we haven't really We haven't taken a deep dive into how You know judging with panels really done reserves integrity With the concerns that commissioner brian just raised How you balance it? Um, yes sterile go right ahead. I'm sorry. No Yeah, just to that point what uh that article Stated I believe that the olympics have moved to a panel of five judges where the highs and the lows are thrown out You know trying to mitigate the You know manipulation prospect exactly Yeah, so they might be taking measures that way. Can we um that I would like to ask if we could Take that discussion and and take a deep dive in it when we have How are we prepared for that everybody agree? Okay So now I do have a motion if you'd like Yes, I would move move that the commission not amend the uh official catalog of events and wages to include street league skateboarding sls as included in the commissioner's packet and discussed here today Do I have a second? Okay Any or the questions or edits or discussion Yes I would just note that I remember I very lengthy and detailed conversation about judging events that include judging um because of that I'm going to respect our decision that day and and I'm going to To vote no, but I am open to opening my mind a different way in the future depending on how the conversation goes And and thank you. I think I I would echo that when um, I I vote today as I said I I need to learn more about The risks on those kinds of panel judges Uh, and I think it probably begs the question that we should turn to it sort of the right But we'll need some good work done All right, um anything else and thank you commissioner maynard Help frame my thoughts. So thank you All right Misha bryan I Misha hill Hi, mr. Skinner. Hi Commissioner maynard. Hi And I vote yes So we go through all six Excellent work your your memo and it did outline really the The thinking of the petition The form of the petition and it it was really helpful Uh, it included, you know answering all so many questions raised a few I am wondering uh commissioners given what we have to accomplish today If it makes sense for us to bring the petition form and the regulation together Um for consideration because I think what we would say right now the form Does echo the regulation as it should That that's why it was coming forward But that there's been at least a question to revisit the reg whether or not we'll change it It's up for grabs and then work with the form. How's that sound? That's good Okay Bruce sterl and Karen does that sound all right with you? Okay, it sounds we have agenda setting wednesday so we can set up a time frame or you can get do whatever you need Excellent. Thank you so much Commissioner Skinner are you all set with that? Yes Okay, excellent So now we'll turn to five see And that is um, I think we have crystal bosha man joining us There she is and uh, we'll start with director van Yes That's gonna say I am here, but I think it's first. Yeah, it's it's me. She just did the memo like I was off on friday Yeah, this has to do with uh, 24301 Correct, this is uh See that we're on correct Yep uh This has to do with uh the 90 day a requirement that uh The this has to do mostly with cap one for this 90 day, which was made first with the security controls and essentially the 24301 section x and appendix b talks about The technical security controls and actually for that section. I will Have christian go into that a little bit Uh christian Thank you bruce Good afternoon So um as Bruce had described. Um, there was a tech regulation regulation 243.01 section x That uh count one operators needed to meet within 90 days Um, actually um, Todd can help me describe the reg a little bit here Sure, um So you'll you'll recall this in 243. So it amends a gli 33 and adds in a I want to make I did unmute myself. Yes. Okay. So um, it adds in a new requirement That this 90 day audit be performed and in order To have that performed a an operator would have to retain What the regulation describes as a qualified independent technical expert The expert may be selected by the operator, but it's subject to the approval of the commission and in order to be Deemed a qualified technical expert The regulation says that the entity has to meet these minimum qualifications Which we'll put on our website and the commission as you may recall within section 243.01 outlined A series of prerequisites in order to be deemed a qualified technical expert and those are In paragraph two here. So it's an x uh two if I have that right And it says to qualify as an independent technical expert the independent technical expert shall A have relevant education background or in other ways provide relevant qualifications in assessing event wagering systems B obtain and maintain certifications sufficient to demonstrate proficiency and expertise as a network penetration tester by recognized certification boards either nationally or internationally C have at least five years experience performing technical security control audits on event wagering systems And d is anything else the commission wants to add to the list essentially so As christian can describe in further detail because he was the one leading the The charge here, but we have received information from two entities that are Desirous of being deemed independent technical experts We have been working together as a team internally to determine whether they meet Those standards. We are still in the process of gathering that information Some of the information Was unclear And so it hasn't been completed yet And is not ready for your review here today the issue with that is that the regulations as Has been mentioned require that this audit be performed within 90 days The commencement of operations essentially and that name 90 day mark has come up for the category one operators the regulation then says that A report has to be completed and submitted to the commission no later than 30 days after the assessment has completed so that's essentially 120 days from No more than 120 days from the commencement of operations So I don't believe we've hit that date yet, but it doesn't it's unclear whether we'll be able to hit that date So we wanted to bring these issues to the commission's attention So that you are aware of those timing issues It may be a situation where a waiver of some kind or a variance would be required to ensure technical compliance We don't believe there is any inherent risk To the integrity or vulnerability of any of these operations That is at stake here Though this is an important piece of the regulatory review So it's still being stood up in many ways And that that's where we are right now with this. I think as perhaps christian and others may agree Within Another week or two we'll probably have more clarity as to where this all stands and can probably Return this issue to a meeting agenda so that we can try to resolve this audit requirement We we have been asked for an extension from two of the licensees, which was MGM and on court Just because they needed some clarity as well as a Group to actually do their their audit Chris, what about ppc? Are they all set ppcs all all set? Yes I'm going to turn to crystal crystal. You put the memo together Got some thoughts on this I did um, I did a little bit of research with licensing and christian for that, but I think um My intent with the memo was really just to break down the rag and exactly how Christian Todd Bruce everybody's going through the process of reviewing Each component of the reg as it comes in and just clarifying the status of work Yeah Kara, can you bring us up to date where where the registration is on these? Of course, so, uh, both effort both Entities have submitted a sports way during registration application and they are currently under review But they you know are so they will likely be complete shortly Okay, thank you Of course questions commissioners Chris you're skinning I have just one um, did did the um Request for an extension come in Timely yes Okay So Kara, could you just walk us through our crystal or christian? Um the The deadline versus what the 30 day gets them The deadline is may 1st initially for the the first 90 days and the 30 days would be I believe june 1st somewhere right in there for the Little late giving them the extension Pardon me. We're a little late giving the extension then right? Yes And I'm okay with that as long as the request came you know was timely and that's already been answered so And and people see not need the extension No, ppc does does not it was just clarification of the Registrant of the the people that did their their audit So they're all they met everything ppc is All set well except with one important exception that the entity they use to do the testing has not been deemed a qualified independent technical expert So they have had an audit performed by an entity that has Proposed to become a qualified independent technical expert should we give them a some kind of a waiver? On that Todd because isn't that part of the equation? I was just going to add in there that I the Part of the regulation that gives them the 30 days to do the report is after the assessment component Which is after they've been deemed the technical expert. So they would have 30 days from that I Which is why we estimated that june 1st because Once Kara's confirmed that they're set to go they would have the 30 days, but it like Todd said it's already in What is that process until I know Kara just spoke about the application submissions, but what exactly Is required to deem? an independent technical expert qualified christian and kevin are going over their qualifications and their certifications as to what credentials they have to That mash against our regulations to make sure that these Entities are qualified to do this audit So to be clear and maybe we should back up a half a step and apologize if this wasn't clear There's there's two components here There's the licensing side of it In which a determination was made at the staff level that these entities were required to become registered as Vendors essentially But as as you know when entities become registered as vendors, we don't look at their qualifications. It's more of a suitability Identification type review There's no competency review However, the regulations When they come to sports wagering talk about the competency Of these entities in order to perform this work. So that's not something the licensing division typically looks at and that's why Christian and kevin govro have been asked to take a look at the competency Side of it and those are the three prerequisites I just mentioned earlier that christian and his group have been looking at so that's separate from what karah is doing Although we've all collaborated on this review I have a couple follow-up questions. I'm sorry. I just kind of understand the process and so In the case of ppc Day of their review is complete but It still has to To do their their review to ensure that The experts are qualified That's correct, but it's my understanding that was a decision made by the staff To do some kind of a qualification process. Is that right? No, that's in the regulation it requires Yes, it's all in what was it that was determined by at the staff level that you said The idea that these entities also had to get registered As vendors That's not discussed in 243. That's in a separate section Just it seemed to all of us that it was important So I should also add in case this point isn't clear These are not the independent test labs. We're not talking about gli and bmm or those folks This is these are totally separate entities Although there is a relationship between one of them and gli, but So for that reason, we don't even know who they are And so it was important. We thought that they be identified and registered As opposed to us just looking at their qualifications and that's why The registration piece came into play So it's the registration piece that the staff made a decision on Well, it does fall under the regulations, you know, we didn't of course just make it up But you know, it's there is a process that we followed on that Now providing goods and services to the The operator and the licensees just like any other vendor. So they fall into the vendor category. So it all made sense together And and so Commissioner Skinner, you have more follow-up. Yeah, so so with respect so back to the request at hand with respect to mgm and ebh They have not submitted their required documents And once they do that with the new deadline or by the new deadline of june 1st or their vows Their vendors would also need to be qualified or reviewed for their qualification by it Okay, that's my that was my question. So It appears as though ebh is going to use the same vendor that ppc is using For what that's worth and in mgm's defense, they they did I I think and people can correct me if I have this wrong that their audit hasn't been performed because there was some Uncertainty as to whether the entity they wanted to use would be allowed to do it Um, so that's why they haven't done And this would apply to all of our sports Um Our online sports waging offer. Are we clear with them what our expectations are in the timing? Is that does that help because we did Bruce and team and I think christian had sent a notice out to these the Retail operators in advance warning them of the deadline. I think that it makes sense to reiterate that with the Licenses for category three from sports wage area from christian to make sure that they know that the onus is on them to get this done I guess when i'm struggling with a commissioner scanner, you would be more familiar given your former position than I their choice of the auditor um They Are I guess maybe carrot two you can help me they um They wouldn't know if they're Would they do we have a list of who would be? Properly registered for this so that we get them off to the right starter Yes, and so that's actually in part why we wanted to have them registered as well so that they could also be included on the Sports wage during registration list, which is of course public and posted on our website And we would also of course let our operators know as well So if they were to choose somebody outside, they would know exactly what the process is In terms of both registration with licensing as well as the qualification As well as the qualification All right, thanks Yeah, I would I would help out our online. That's makes sense because the 90 days isn't very long the scheme of things Okay Richard Skinner Did I take away your time? I'm sorry. Oh, no, it's okay. So so today's purposes the commission is Going to approve or not approve the request for an extension and then We won't hear about it. So assuming The requests are the requests are approved It question you folks do your technical qualification review That this matter doesn't come before us again. Is that is that accurate? You could report out if the commission would like we can report out and Let everything is squared away. I think that makes sense. Um, just to assure compliance with their yeah Not just respect to the mpm and ebh but with respect to all of the Yeah operators. Okay. Yeah, Bruce. If you make a note of that, we can add it for the agenda setting. Um, just to keep Thank you We just one supplement to that commissioner Skinner. We may need to bring um The Qualifications submitted by one or both of the entities back to the commission to look at if it's unclear Whether they would meet the standards or not Can I follow up with that and with commissioner Skinner's earlier person if we were to approve today? What are the consequences and what are the consequences that? Does an issue on the qualification The consequences would be that the operator would be in violation of this provision of the regulations and subject to disciplinary action and today if we didn't approve this That would be the case as well, correct Right, but they did submit timely the request for extension Todd does the filing of the request for extension in a timely fashion doesn't automatically stay does it No The application to renewal license No, I don't think so. I mean in fairness To everyone this was is new for for us too So it took us a little bit of time to kind of get our c-legs about us and really gain a clear understanding of the whole process So I it it felt like folks were generally timely here That that's just kind of my opinion But it doesn't automatically toll and so right now That's right. That's right Hey, so the request is for two extensions for encore boston harbour and mgm springfield One also with a cat request from our team that we are kept at price on For this matter By the motion Madam chair, I move that the commission grant encore boston harbour and mgm springfield a 30 day extension from the requirement set out in 205 c mr 243.01 1x That operators must have a technical security control audit conducted within 90 days of commencing operations Thank you, mr. Hill Any questions? Mr. Ryan. Hi Mr. Hill. Hi Mr. Skinner. Hi Mr. Maynard. Hi And I vote yes Thank you to our licensees and Working with our team as we figured this out in finally dashing. So thank you Okay, thank you Hello, thank you Great. Thank you christian. It's good to see you. Thank you crystal dill better He said she has a cold, but we didn't notice um, okay So now we're going to move on to responsible research gaming and FY 24 research agenda Good afternoon mark Afternoon madam chair. Good afternoon commissioners Been a long day No, it's not a long day for us. Long day for you Here we are thinking more of you um Anyway, I'm I'm happy bonnie and I are happy to bring to you The fy 24 research agenda For um for vote So, um, as you know, the expanded gaming act enshrines the role of A gaming research agenda in order to understand the social and economic effects of expanded gaming and the common wealth It's an annual research agenda meaning that The beauty of this is that we can build upon Build a body of research to better understand what these social and economic impacts are But also dive deeper into into specific areas of interest With an overall goal of mitigating Understanding the impacts of gambling but also mitigating the negative and unintended consequences of gambling Um the gaming commission um in response Has established a number of research categories following A strategic planning process and I won't go into details of of each of those categories For you that they are listed in the memo that bonnie and I created for you um The sports wagering act also carries forward this Get requirement for a gaming research agenda and specifically since this is a relatively new area For the commission the sports age wagering as states and statutes the sports wagering research agenda Shall include but or but not limited to an assessment of whether sports Problem sports wagering is co-mortgage with problem gambling and assessment as to whether individuals participating in sports wagering are different from those participating in other forms of gambling An assessment of the impact of sports wagering on youth under the age of 25 An assessment of the impacts of sports wagering on college athletes and professional sports and the costs of implementing this chapter So the original strategic plan sports wagering was not captured as a specific category however that Seeing that as a priority commission We've added a specific line of research that is dedicated specifically to understand the sports wagering so we Brought a draft research agenda to the gaming commission before you On march 3. This is a way to kick off this discussion and get some early feedback from you On april 4th We brought this research agenda to the gaming research advisory committee and while this is not a statutory Body, this is a long-standing group that the commission has has posted And we Among other things see advice from them on the annual research agenda And then finally on may 4th. We brought this A draft research agenda to the gaming policy advisory committee and this is a statutorily mandated Advisory committee and as stated in section 71 the gaming commission with the advice of the gaming policy advisory committee shall establish an annual research agenda And so that was actually just last thursday so on friday Bonnie and I pulled together feedback from those three meetings and Are here today With with with what we feel is a solid Annual research agenda that considers the expansion of sports wagering but also holds true To our commitment of understanding the social and economic effects of gaming and the commonwealth more generally Now Meta parent commissioners. I would be happy to walk through each of these deliverables with with you However, they are largely unchanged from the meeting that we had on Back in march. Um, I could also Skip that part and talk to you about the specific feedback that we received during these three meetings I I'm totally open to however you want to proceed I asked if you could start with the feedback please that would be really helpful Yes, certainly. Um, so you'll notice there in the memo that we Have for you. There's a The final page Is the feedback that we received as well as the steps taken and so I will just start from the top. So during the commission meeting on march 30th There was a question about About money and laundering and the context that context of sports wagering and whether that should be something that would be considered Within the annual research agenda Um, I consulted with our IBE to try to get a sense of what their knowledge needs were and determine if there was a research question and the research Stream that that we should proceed on I didn't get the sense that that it was a question or a concern that would be brought To the fy 24 annual research agenda. However We could Continue to work with the IAB Kind of aside from that annual research agenda in order to make sure that they have The information they they need and as it pertains to money laundering commissioners, I think I was perhaps the one that raised um Uh the issue around money laundering and particularly as it may affect Sports wagering including both the teams based on kiosk as well as online I know there's a great deal of research going on at the University of Nevada Las Vegas Becky Harris the former chair of the control board is leading a lot of that research. Um, that's make that's influencing decisions around the world I wonder if we should I and uh, I guess I wonder how we feel as commissioners as to whether we should be looking at this more carefully Richard me I do remember this conversation. Um, and I do think that you brought it up, but I was also very interested in that. Um Was there any mark, you know, we're not subject to these internal conversations Was there, you know, is there a reason is there a public safety reason or some sort of reason why We wouldn't explore this Good question. Um, well, there's no particular reason why we wouldn't I think it was um, if in my consultation with Loretta, um, and It was just that they didn't feel that she didn't feel that there was a specific avenue or a research question that That was worth Investing in research at this point happy to add that happy to add it to the sort of a watch list or provide information Happy to work with you and lb reach out to you and lb and and see what work is being done in this area but So however, you would like to proceed we can we can do that So when I was looking at it, I was thinking there could be You know some information That you would want to keep anonymous, right? And that's part of the reason that was going on but if that's not the case, um I mean I think that you know, we try as commissioners to be You know, we bring stuff up, which you know, there's a reason and so I think that I I'm interested in it I mean, this is the first year we've had sports wagering Um, you know, it could be, you know scaled back from what perhaps some were envisioning, but I'm interested in and seeing, you know If this is an issue and in mass juices at this time I think I would need some additional direction in terms of that scope And we would need to work together to kind of scope out a project like this To have a better understanding of the questions that The commission has as it relates to money laundering and sports wagering so Commissioners your thoughts on addressing this issue I think my feeling is money laundering is a go ahead, Krisha. No, so when I think about AML I think about the G's office too and what their scope is with us um And I don't know if they have any Because I hear you mark like if you don't know what where to go to look for it. It's a different It's a different beast than looking at money laundering and a brick and mortar um But I'm wondering if consult a at a minimum if we say we're going to work and consult with the AG's office gaming enforcement unit to see If there's anything we can study right because they're doing Interdiction and investigations and wiretaps potentially things like that that may come up with them information that they could share In a way that you know protects confidence is that might give guidance to research But I hear what you're saying right now We'd be flying blind if we were trying to tell you to research something Um, so is there a way to put in sort of more clear direction? Not so much coming up with a research paper so much as exploring the research opportunities or benchmarks that we would need to look at to then see if you were going to do it the next year Now I give more guidance to Krisha Maynard so that we are continuing to look at it and not forgetting about it One thing I'm I'm thinking of is yeah, we do have partners the g eu the state police and the AG's office That would be interested in making sure that the laws is enforced But we may not be well educated on on how Sports waging is you know exploited for the purpose of money laundering so my um my thought was very least we could be helping to use using our research agenda to educate ourselves and our partners on these risks They may very well be different than as you say commissioner brian with respect to the casinos, but I guess I'm I'm I hear you mark saying about scope You know, perhaps that's something that we should explore but what I don't want to do is Is I want to be on the record that I think this is an issue of important for public safety and the integrity of of the system and I I would like to to explore The the topic So that we can perhaps be helpful to our partners, but that's my thinking In sheriff if I can jump may I jump in a moment? Yes because Yeah, so I B does have a couple initiatives going on right now Information gathering initiatives. We've got our g eu doing outreach to other jurisdictions specifically targeted on the AML implications in this new sports wagering environment I mean my wires may have gotten crossed with mark in terms of like is there a specific research question? I can think of I'm not sure about that, but we do have some topics currently under way and you know, they Be worth a follow-up conversation with with mark and team questions for loretta Oh, sorry, I was just going to respond to what commissioner on brian did as often she does She she put it more articulately than I did but that was exactly what I was getting at is You know, a is it a problem? Right, b, you know, how's it being dealt with with our partners? You know and try to scope the issue, but I am interested to see you know, is it I don't know if it's happening Is it happening to what degree is it happening? And what can we do as a commission? To to curtail it if it is happen I mean, that's kind of where i'm thinking but commissioner brian did a really good job of summarizing where where my head goes Definitely been a topic for us in i e b And g e u has prioritized it They're doing jurisdictional visits and conversations and it's been on the top of their list for information gathering And loretta, can I ask if you've been in touch with tom caldwell and the troopers over there as well? Of course. Yeah, okay Well, then we would want to have i e b report back to us that um rather than just you know What i'd like to not do is Money laundering's come up only in the gaming context and you know, I just think that all of us could be Braved and educated on it and any any risks that oppose and then how we're mitigating it. So So we're not ready to do that educating you from what we've found yet But that's an active area that we are looking at and you know, I'll connect with mark separately as well excellent separate note, I mean we talk about you know Our budget and things like that that we're going to be talking about I think that's coming up soon Different things we might want to spend money on and I know mc le and other entities also do aml training. It's kind of basic high level, but um That might be something also to do So that when ivy comes back and starts talking to us with more specificity There's an understanding at a high level of some of the basic aml language and statutes and Makes great sense commissioner brian. Just we're working on that side on for human trafficking So we get more I just these are big areas in gaming and we just need to be very very well acquainted with the risks All right I'm trying to pull all of this together. Um And I I clearly hear an interest of the commission to pursue this And that going back to sort of trying to understand what the scope of a research project would be in this um It would be my recommendation that um, we as the research division Do more to scope out what a potential study would look like in consultation with the g e u with um with director director lilios, um, perhaps consulting with the attorney general's office and we Have connections with unlv But that we it obviously we don't have a scope and um I wasn't prepared to sort of introduce a study today But i'm happy to to shift and pivot to do so if that's the the wish of the commission Richard sitter. Oh, I just wanted to lend a little bit of support to marx Uncertainty, I guess, um, you know just as i'm reading the feedback it wasn't Immediately clear to me what commissioners are asking for what we are asking for Commissioner brian did lend a bit of clarity to that and I think the suggestion um, you know to have a high level understanding of aml in general Is a good one. Um, but then also I wonder if it makes sense for commissioners to have a A broader understanding of you know, it's jurisdiction relative to aml You know as it intersects with sports wagering and gaming in general So, you know, I think that the topic is is a good one and it's worthwhile um But I do I do I do think that um I at least need to be a bit more educated as to uh specifically The commission's interests here and where You know, we need to sort of bow out if you will and um allow law enforcement officials like the ag's office geu state police to Do their thing So just very generally, um You know, I have a I I'm not sure What the ask is This is perhaps why I'm thinking we need to become more educated on on this issue commissioner skinner um And you know, I'll leave it that I think that mark and the reddit can connect Uh, I I do think it's an uh, absolutely um part of our Obligation to ensure that the public has full trust in the integrity um of Of gaming in massachusetts, so I don't think it's I think there's enforcement. We actively We are actively involved For this ieb is under the commission. So I think it's you know from my perspective sports exploring and if you allow Mark and and the reddit to decide whether there's something that could be addressed To to help the efforts that are underway and then can we turn back? It would be great. Otherwise, I like the idea of at least training I mean brought up and then commissioner brian brought up and then we can go from there So that makes sense Yes, of course, madam chair it it doesn't I'm I wasn't I didn't mean to Suggest that the commission does not have an interest. I just you know to your point I'd like to be educated a little bit more as to You know what what that is or should be and where we draw the line and separate ourselves from law enforcement officials Because it you know it is criminal activity after all okay next uh So next piece of feedback from the commission during that meeting the same meeting was a question about the use of primary patron data from online sports Mobile sports way during operators. So for example In terms of pattern player behavior in terms of the context of advertising models Identify risk markers and the effects of advertising on customer acquisition and player behavior This is captured a little bit in the proposed Advertising study looking at different player acquisition models and its effects on On play behavior that would likely require us to have a better understanding of actual player player behavior Um, and I think that this is a area that is is worth The commission pursuing Whether it be policy or regulatory approach Unlike chapter 23 k there isn't a specific car about currently for us to capture that that player behavior um So I think the commission would need to grapple with that to try to find the the appropriate path forward But going back I completely agree that this is a a worthwhile endeavor for the commission um Both in terms of advertising, but also in terms of understanding player risk and developing effective responsible gaming tools Any questions from mark on that next item The next item is actually it's a theme that kind of came through both in the meeting with The commission meeting but as well as the gaming research advisory committee and the gaming policy advisory committee there is a lot of interest and commitment to The community driven research Categories that the gaming commission has Um, there were questions about funding and whether or not there was adequate funding for these types of community-based research projects Would more funding provide more opportunities for deeper research? And uh, specifically Is it important to continue to stress the importance of thinking about equity in all aspects of the work because people of color are disproportionately impacted by gambling um so I think Uh, absolutely the commission will continue funding for this category. We've um the community mitigation fund Under the chief Delaney and and aim We've developed a line of funding for community-engaged research there um the gaming research advisory committee question whether the current funding structure that we have set up so sort of the RFR And the way that we've organized the funding whether or not that is adequate and captures the Right people and I think that that is absolutely a legitimate question that we need to continue to pursue At this point I didn't have a change within the the research agenda. There remains a commitment of about $200,000 per year for this specific read research category And that does not include the community mitigation fund dollars or support for this type of research Um, I think Bonnie and I would look uh, look at the structure of the RFR and and Uh closely to make sure that it's appealing to the right community groups and forecasting the net as broad as possible Questions from America on this I am I know that I express concern about the budgeting um, and I do prioritize um This community-based research because of the very reasons that you are calculated mark um I want to point out that it is great that we are using our community mitigation funds to support. I'm understanding it doesn't It doesn't supplant Public health trust funds being used. Is that that's correct right mark the 200 is an addition It's an addition. It is different because It's I understand if a community mitigation fund A non-profit that could Be funded directly under our public health trust fund would have to find a government um local community um partner under the community mitigation fund in order to get funding Correct, that is that is correct. And that's it to your point It's really important that we don't supplant that it's an addition to um the goals of that Research remain the same, but you're right the there is a there that is an important distinction It's a bit of an additional barrier right if we were to really look at our our own regulatory review and um it's $200,000 with how many research projects contemplated to to and so For public safety, how much do we allocate for two? For public safety research, um Bonnie could you pull up the the spreadsheet that lays that out? and so I think that Madam chair what your your question is we have two studies proposed under public safety one is A plain bill study, but in the other is a study looking at the impacts of casinos on human trafficking in the state Yeah, so just as a you know, is that 200 000 as well do we as they evenly funded? Like do we take two projects like that? How do Yeah, I guess I'm just wondering I heard you say you didn't make any adjustments and yet I know at least I I'm not sure how much support I got at the time so I don't want to I don't want to assume a consensus here um But as to the budget and I'm hearing the g-rack also raised questions He did g-pack also raised issues Correct. Are we and I know I was just at the aga board meeting and They asked about your work and I stressed how This is a big piece of our thinking right now um The public can we offer them anything more? It's what I'm wondering mainly because I know at a certain point in time each of the community based in research they They have just they have to really work hard To develop the trust within the community To get the data that they need from you know it all mark I don't have and andrews. You know it better than anyone that to establish that information So it seems like they almost have to work harder to get their data And I want to make sure that we're We're we're respecting that that that work of the capturing of the community voices And making sure that Those who are engaged in it Well, we want to represent the community that maybe They are most likely members of the minority community Are getting paid the right wage to do that research Yeah, you know, I think it it goes back to really taking a look at our procurement part the way that we structure that rfr The last funding cycle we we had two applications and ended up funding one of them and so That is evidence that we need to take a look at the way that we're funding this type of research Bonnie just Put in my comments of public safety funding for FY 24 is 115 thousand and Bonnie just to confirm that I think we both the Plain bill public safety study as well as the for human trafficking. So it's it's less than what it's It's less than what we do for community based. Yes Well, then maybe that reflects that data collection a little bit, right mark um I know that we have other You know research that's much more expensive So another one Commissioners I've said my piece No more no need to go on Hi madame chair. I completely concur. Um, this is a line of research that we've engaged in now for Maybe five or six years. It's produced a number of studies that I think are really really interesting contribute to the body of knowledge both in massachusetts and beyond The age and care study is a prime example of Excellent an excellent example of the type of community-driven research that that we've engaged If it's the wish of the commission for us to go back and sharpen our pencil to identify Additional dollars that could go towards this it would you know, we would need to take a look at across the research agenda And possibly into responsible gaming but we can certainly do so Okay, I'm sure she could take that into consideration and then the final one Yeah, the final um during the g-pack meeting last thursday One of the members had an interesting question In relation to the public safety Research that we've done that I had not I had not considered. Um, which was trying to understand the Um Incorporating the expenditures for public safety The public safety workforce as it relates to the to the public safety impacts that are being measured and we We have not done that in the past No And our recommendation would be as we move forward with this line of research We can consult with justice research associates to Ask them to incorporate this within within that specific study I don't see a an additional cost To doing this and it's something that we can we can integrate That shows any I have one more comment or mark on any comments from your questions Okay, the only the comment marked on the um I know that the I believe we updated the uh commission the other day But sigma is in fact Looking at the impact of the regulated sports wagering market on the elitos sports wagering market I had asked that the the research agenda be amended to include that and there was some question about scope, etc But you came back and did say that You're looking at that. I wonder if it could that could be reflected somewhere on this document Certainly we can add we can add that I'm sorry wasn't included in there. No, no, that's okay. Thanks. So just a reminder I'm so pleased because the timing is right now for a baseline. So that's why it works So I'm happy over that that was good luck. That was good luck. Okay anything else You need a vote today and madam chair one one other there there is a A part out of the research agenda for an ad hoc economic report and And so to be determined by september at the latest and so um, I think that that's something for us to think about In terms of what research direction what type of economic research we may consider in the sports wagering or on Christina I always like the ad hoc smart. I do too I'm glad you do that. It's like a little chance for us to to To pivot. All right Commissioner hill you got a motion I've been hogging all the motions today madam Chair, but I do have one if you'd like one I move that the commission approved their proposed fy 24 gaming research agenda as included in the commissioner's packet and discussed here today for the second Second, is there any further discussion? Mr. Brian Hi, commissioner hill. Hi Commissioner skinner. Hi commissioner knitted. Hi And I vote yes with just a notation about If there's any sharpening of a pencil that can be had I would love for you to explore that and I love Dr. Andrews smile. So thank you. Appreciate that very much. I I guess it's Thank you. Thank you very much. I'm chair and commissioners if I make this ad We will continue to look at AML as it relates to sports wagering We will look at the structure of the community driven research in our the way that we're procuring and in addition looking at sharpening our pencil for that Um, we will definitely be have our eye on on player data and ways to leverage that avenues to act with that and leverage that for responsible gaming um and and keeping an eye on Where we can draw specific information and perhaps even a specific report to address the impacts of the legal and regulated Market on the illegal market and Excellent. Great work. And you did a very nice job with the g-pack. Thank you so much. I They have to that appreciate it. Appreciate the whole team's contribution. All right Um, commissioner brian has graciously said that she would allow us to roll over Her um item seven Like to have grace explore with Trudy um Whether or not we could Move that into our discussion for Wednesday, we have included after agenda setting and a meeting with limited Uh items one It would be our budget and perhaps because this is quite internal to our operations It might make sense to have this discussion be part of that It but i'm not sure about uh commissioner schedules. So that's why we need to see Trudy and and uh grace can Work their magic and then we would um, we anticipate an executive session that afternoon so, um Next we do have a We are anticipating a final executive session Discussing Matter that it's appropriate for executive sessions should we so vote I'm sure as as you know, I must read this Into the record and you can ask any questions of our general counsel Commissioners anticipated to meet an executive session in accordance with gl chapter 30a section 21 a7 and gl chapter 4 section 7 26 f To discuss investigatory materials related to the issuance of a sports wagering license necessarily Compiled out of the public view by the IEB the disclosure of which materials would Probably so prejudice the possibility of effective law enforcement that such disclosure would not be in the public interest Public session of the commission meeting will not We do not anticipate Um Be convening at the conclusion of the executive session should we so vote With that said commissioners any questions or do I have a motion I can move madam chair Um, I would move that the commission go into executive session on the matter Uh, just stated by the chair and for the reasons just stated by the chair on the record That can thank you any questions for Todd All right, um with that said Commissioner bryan I commissioner hill Hi commissioner skinner hi commissioner maynard All right And I vote yes, so that's five zero to move into this executive session This will um conclude our public portion of this meeting and I just wish to thank the entire team You all work very very hard for this meeting to prepare and we also thank the independent monitor For the presentation this morning. Um, it's been a very productive day And for us it hasn't concluded. We'll let dave susah Bring us to learn our proper Virtual meeting space. So thank you everyone. Appreciate all your hard work Should be all set and again if anybody needs to be added to the executive session That is not please feel free to let me know and I can add you to be uh the breakout room


There are a set of people who would do everything they can do to make others pleased. They are utterly called people-pleasers. People-pleasers want to be liked, they want everyone to be happy with them, they want to be in everyone's good books and they are ready to do anything to achieve these results. They put everyone's needs before theirs, they always say yes to whatever people ask of them and they are almost addicted to being needed. It is as though they get their satisfaction from feeling important and they see pleasing people as being valuable and relevant to the lives of others. People-pleasers search for validation from others and this search for validation makes them do all they can to get approval from others. This approval feeds their self-esteem. They are always worried about others' view of them and work hard to appear helpful to everyone. As expected, the life of a people-pleaser is a hard one which will never be successful because people are never satisfied. 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The death of Cameron Drimogy at Palm Island in November 2004 was a terrible tragedy. Since then there have been judicial hearings, findings, inquiries, reports. Much of that has been very polarised with widely differing views and for some there will never be a sense of satisfaction with this matter that justice has been done. I have always acknowledged that the initial investigation into the death of Cameron Drimogy could have been handled better but the police service has learned a great deal from that. We have changed the way we do things and in fact since that time the ethical standards command of the Queensland Police Service has conducted some 50 investigations relating to deaths in custody. To my knowledge none of those investigations have been the subject of criticism by any of the coroners or by the Crime and Misconduct Commission. The Queensland Police Service provided its report on that initial investigation to Cameron Drimogy's death to the CMC in November 2008. Now some 20 months later in June 2010 the CMC have released a public report in relation to this matter. We are committed to having this matter resolved but it is important that that be done in a considered, fair and evidence based way but it is time to bring this matter to an end so that everyone involved can move on. We need to have that happen. This needs to be brought to a close.