Bonjour à tous, mon nom est Justin Weiss, je suis le directeur du Centre d'analyse de prévisions et de stratégie du Gué d'Orsay et on m'a demandé de modérer cette session sur le terrorisme. Hier, lors de son discours, le ministre des Affaires étrangères, Jean-Marc Héro, a évoqué le terrorisme, il a parlé d'une menace globale, d'un terrorisme qui s'y joue des frontières et impose une guerre nouvelle qui frappe nos Etats et nos sociétés en leur cœur, en combinant l'idéologie la plus rétrograde et les méthodes les plus barbares, aux technologies les plus modernes. Ensuite, il a rappelé que la France avait été frappée la dernière fois le 14 juillet, le jour de la Fête nationale, et il a aussi rappelé les lands de solidarité qui avaient entouré, disons, les réactions à cet attentat. Et il avait ajouté, je le cite, car la France n'est bien sûr pas la seule à être frappée. Le terrorisme a touché New York, Boston, San Bernardino ou Orlando. Il a fait des ravages à Paris, Nice, Bruxelles, mais aussi à Istanbul, Kabul, Baghdad, Dhaka, Sirt, Tunis, Bamako, Niyame, Tel Aviv, Ouagadougou, Bombay ou Abidjan. Cette liste macabre n'est pas exhaustive, même si elle est déjà longue, beaucoup trop longue. Nous en connaissons tout le paradoxe, la majorité des victimes de ces terroristes qui se revendiquent de l'Islam sont des musulmans. Et il concluait cet aspect-là, cet aspect sur le terrorisme en disant, face aux désordres du monde, la seule réponse consiste à unir nos forces, à faire preuve de solidarité et à trouver des solutions collectives à des problèmes communs. J'ai souhaité mentionner ce discours de Jean-Marc Héro hier parce qu'au fond il ouvre la scène, il nous donne une idée du panel qui nous attend et qui répond précisément à cette idée d'unir nos forces collectivement pour résoudre un problème commun. La diversité des membres de ce panel répond en effet à cette exigence et je mentionnerai brièvement qui sont les intervenants. Vous avez leur biographie dans les livrets. Je vous demanderai d'abord à Sergei Karaganov, qui est, je le dirais en anglais, le Honorary Chairman of the Non-governmental Council on Foreign and Defence Policy of Russia. Et un habitué, j'ajouterais de la World Policy Conference, de commencer. Ensuite, M. Naranayan, qui est ancien gouverneur du Bengale Occidental, en Inde, mais aussi conseillé de sécurité du Premier ministre, poursuivra. Alors, on a un petit contretemps avec notre collègue Jamal Kashoghi, de Al Arab News Channel, qui, je l'espère, va nous rejoindre dans quelques minutes. Il sera suivi par M. Wang Jiejeu, qui est le président de l'Institut d'études internationales et stratégiques à l'université de Pékin, et professeur dans cette université. Et nous terminerons, ça n'est pas tout à fait l'ordre qui est indiqué dans le programme, par l'intervention de M. J. Angir Khan, qui est le directeur du UN Content-Terrorism Implementation Task Force et du UN Content-Terrorism Centre, et qui nous apportera, qui nous expliquera quelle est la vision des Nations unies, et en particulier les plans développés par le secrétaire général, qui est chargé de mettre en oeuvre. Nous irons donc en quelque sorte du plus général et du plus philosophique, dirais-je, ou du plus analytique, vers ce qui constitue la vision actuelle de ce problème-là, du problème du terrorisme, par les Nations unies. Donc, sans attendre davantage, je laisse la parole à Sergei Karaganov pour les 8 minutes réglementaires. Sergei. Merci, Monsieur le Président. Well, first of all, I'm delighted to be here, and I'm very happy that the World Policy Conference lives in thrice on terrorism. We're basically in the modern world, two types of terrorism. One is, I mean, a terrorism which has mentioned, I mean terrorist attacks, which are vicious, which are growing, which are growing the dangers, and which are happening all over the world, especially of course in the larger Middle East, but also now more and more Europe, that have been often in Russia and other places. And a second type, I would say, terrorism is organized or massive terrorism, when terrorist organizations which provide, I mean, a first type of terrorism take over territories and countries and become then the threat, the direct threat of humanity. We have had that kind of terrorism even before, that rarely, I mean, because of injustice and economic suffering, Germany has become a terrorist state. I mean, before that and after that, we have had a racist and nationalist regimes in Europe, but Hitler regime was quite something different. It was a classic terrorist regime. It didn't use that modern terrorist tactics, but it was a classic terrorist regime. So, how to deal with the first type of terrorism is clear, though it is very difficult. It is work of security services, police and maximum coordination. How to deal with the second type of terrorism is a big issue, but before addressing that second issue, I must say that, I mean, on this concrete situation we have, of course, a clear case of this new kind of terrorism, not so no new kind, which again appeared about 30 years ago. It was first Mojahedin and Taliban, then al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, now Daesh. And it is highly likely that it will have something else, unless we learn the lessons from the past. The reasons for arrival of this new type of terrorism, as well as the first type of terrorism, are relatively clear. Un justice social inequality in this particular area of the world.  So this is there, you should deal with these kind of sources of terrorism, but they will be out with us and you could not deal with them, do away with them totally. But this time, and as well as in the previous times, like al-Qaeda and Taliban before, these huge terrorist organizations which actually took over territories were also the result of unjustified, I would say incototally incompetent and irresponsible intrusion by foreign powers. Soviet Union, my former country did contribute when it went into Afghanistan, but thanks God we have done away with the IDC of communism and its gerentocracy. But now we have had during the last several years, I mean, a new kind of series of ideological intrusions which are, as I have said, unbelievably responsible and incomprehensible. Of course, Iraq, which actually created and then which ended up in throwing away the cadres of Baath regime. We had Libya, we had support of Arab Spring, which could have only brought disaster, but of course, was widely supported and thrived for a while. And now we have, of course, the same situation in Syria developing. So, my first recipe for dealing with this issue is stop interventions. And the whatever ideological banner they come whether it's communism, democratism, or future isms to come to this world, they bring only disaster. Respect the local traditions and customs. The aim should not be changed but stability only change and development could come only under circumstances of stability and peace. That is the lesson we should learn from the past but where from to the future. Well, Russia is doing what it believes it should do and also for the future. We have went to Syria for several reasons but one of the reasons is to destroy terrorist organizations and terrorist institutions at their core rather than before they come to our territory. And prop up existing states and existing legitimate governments and stop the irresponsible policies of regime changes which have been performed by our partners. We are succeeded. If you wish, I will later, if you wish, do you have a few moments? So, what should be the principles? About future policy? Well, first of all, as I've said, common goals, stability. When fighting terrorist organizations of the Daesh type or Nusra type which is thought to be first, not exactly a terrorist, you have to use unlimited force.  If you play with these forces, you are doomed to be defeated eventually by them. Then, emphasize, put emphasis on support of traditional forces and traditional values within the societies. Work with the governments. And of course, forget about the geopolitical games when you are fighting this kind of terrorist threats. It's very hard for everybody, including Russians. We are very good in playing geopolitical games. But in principle, we must understand that if we do not defeat Daesh now, there will be several Daeshes which might be much worse down the road because their social, economic and political preconditions for new waves of terrorism are growing. The situation in the middle, in the larger Middle East, has been destabilized for quite some time. And it will be very hard. We could discuss that later to correct it if it is possible at all. But then we have Central Africa which is going towards a social disaster again mostly because of climate, demography, etc. And it will be a fertile ground for terrorism. And the final word on that is support existing states which are vulnerable. In this area, I could name only three but there are many others. And I think that our friends from this area know that better. I would say that there are three on the top of my list. This is Jordan, of course. Egypte and Algeria. If we do not support them together with our friends from this area but also people from Europe, from Russia, from maybe from China, other places, I mean we will have a profound and quantitative threat. I mean just imagine what would have happened if Russia would not have started to destroy all these forces in Syria. By now, Al Nusra and Daesh would have controlled the whole country, would have been in Damascus. And controlling, I mean the military machine of the government. Imagine what would have happened if almost by the will of Allah or God General Alsisi wouldn't have organized a coup d'état. By this time, the whole Egypte would have been in flames. So, thank you. Thank you, Sergei. I think we'll have a lot of substance to discuss but Mr Naranayan, the floor is yours. Oh, you want to go to the podium? First, I would like to thank on their theory and the World Policy Conference for inviting me and giving me an opportunity to take part in this very, very interesting conference. I think this is the fourth occasion that I've been here and each time it has been a learning experience. Thank you also Justin for putting me at the number two on the panel before other more distinguished speakers have their say in the matter. I've begun by saying that to win a war you need to know your enemy. And I think ancient philosophers, strategists like Sunzi or Kautilya have said this but it's true every time that you have to deal with terrorists Sergei said just now terrorists are creating problems which are multi-dimensional in nature and we need to understand that. So, much of what I'm going to say today is that fighting terrorism requires an understanding of the way terrorism has morphed over the years for instance. History is both relevant and important in this context but do realise and understand that while terrorism is not a post-modern phenomenon the paradigmatic changes that have taken place in the practice of violence has meant that there are profound strategic implications in the ways terrorism is employed today. Let me try to outline the stages one by one. First, I would ask you to throw your mind back to the 80s of the last century. This was when the broad sweep of radical Islamist extremism today received its first impetus. The war against the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 1980s was a major turning point reflecting as it did a mixture of religious fervour with fundamentalist aims. The Afghan jihad attracted volunteers from across the Islamic world and helped initiate what in subsequent years became a crucial mass of collective jihadist effort based on a combination of experiences across Egypte, Syria, the Arab world and West Asia overall. This marked the beginning or the opening of global jihad. Next we come to new era terrorism which in a sense began with the September 11 terror attacks September 11 2001 terror attacks in the United States were finished by a series of attacks thereafter including the one we had in Mumbai in November 2008. Both signified the emergence of a different kind of threat one of achieving mass casualties and large scale economic and political disruption rather than drawing attention to a primary cause or primary causes. Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden became the symbols of this new genus of terrorism. Between 2001 and 2011 the Al Qaeda corps and its regional affiliates were responsible for several large scale terrorist attacks in different regions of the globe. Third, as the Al Qaeda corps started to weaken following the elimination of Osama bin Laden internal tensions in the Al Qaeda corps emerged and this led to the emergence of what we now call the Islamic state phenomenon. The theology of the Islamic state was not very different from that of the Al Qaeda both being influenced by the nihilistic teachings of the Egyptian Syed Khutub and the Palestinian Abdullah Azam but the ISIS combined this with the practical theology of the Afghan warlord Jalaluddin Haqani. I would say that the real fundamental difference between ISIS and earlier versions of terrorism is the fact that they paraded an exclusivist brand of puritanical Islam. The idea of a new caliphate themes such as Hijrah and Bayan overall gave a complete new dimension to what they meant by modern Islamic ideas. This has proved to be a very powerful magnet in attracting Muslim youth from across the world. I would urge this audience to understand and recognize the fact that the Islamic state is a unique entity. It is very different from other terrorist organizations it believes in holding territory. It in effect projects an Islamic state prototype. Its recruitment techniques, the employment of dark propaganda in its videos for purposes of recruitment and propaganda is proselytization methods over the internet all have created a virtual community of fanatical sympathizers. I do not think that the world has ever seen self-radicalization on this scale and I think there are no markers to indicate how and where this would end or where this would lead in the world too. Violence is a late motive of the ISIS beginning with the highly publicized campaigns of beheading civilian hostages. It has carried out some of the most spectacular killings Sergei a made some reference to this just now. I do not think that I should repeat the horrors of 2015 and 2016 too recent in our memories. What has happened is that the success of the ISIS is in turn leading to a resurgence of other terrorist organizations. The Al Qaeda for instance which was in decline is showing signs of revival. The ISIS and Al Qaeda are now establishing contact with a host of other terrorist outfits and formations across Asia and Africa and perhaps Europe as well. I believe that Al Qaeda is even thinking or considering declaring an Islamic Emirate to counter the ISIS caliphate. In conclusion I think we need to acknowledge that terrorism is becoming more asymmetric even as newer terrorist groups emerge. Both the ostentatious brutality of the ISIS and the relatively softer jihadism of the Al Qaeda pose not merely long order threats but also a kind of civilization tsunami considering the way we run our affairs. Countering the enduring myth of the ISIS namely that of a Puritan Islamist entity is not going to be easy. The threat that the ISIS posits is that it is not just an organization. It is an idea. I think we need to understand this. When the ISIS encounters setbacks it will morph into ISIS 2.0 and continue the stage for attacks. If the ISIS is defeated in Syria the conditions that created the ISIS will not just disappear. A generation of disaffected youth willing to wage other future struggles already exists. They will stream out of their present habitat in Asia and Africa to other regions including Europe and the United States. The lone wolf syndrome will become a very persistent threat and danger. We realize that the internet will become a crucial weapon in the hands of the ISIS once it morphs into ISIS 2.0. Already the ISIS has plans to use the deep web and the dark net. The latter would in ISIS 2.0 become a vicious instrument in the hands of the ISIS to engage in cyber terrorism. Finalement, je voudrais dire que le terrorisme sera la preuve de ne pas seulement le présent, mais aussi les générations futures. Les groupes de terrorisme dans le futur, comme le cas de l'ISIS, sont probablement d'augmenter leur brutalité comme l'adaptation évolutionnelle de l'environnement d'un environnement dangereux. Consequent, l'appel des idées pernicious comme les ISIS sera le plus grand challenge de l'humanité. Comment un combat ou une guerre efficace contre les philosophies ou les philosophies dangereuses de l'ISIS? Pas d'utiliser les drones et pas seulement par violence. La guerre doit être battue avec les idées. Nous avons besoin d'une meilleure idée, d'une meilleure idée. Ce n'est pas le cas à présent. Ladies et gentlemen, ce n'est pas une guerre de 30 ans ou une guerre d'une nouvelle génération. Le conflit sera un long tournoi et nous et le monde devons préparer un long tournoi. Merci. Merci. Généralement, quand nous voulons être pessimistes et poursuivre l'attention d'une guerre de 30 ans d'une guerre d'une nouvelle génération d'une nouvelle génération d'une guerre d'une nouvelle génération de la guerre d'une nouvelle génération d'une nouvelle génération D'accord, je dois furniturement non plus, alors comment Tolot nous pufferons d'avoir un compte timide seafood de la guerre d'une telle grande l'approche c'est de combattre le terrorisme. La première, qui a été annoncée pendant 20 ans ou 25 ans, c'est l'endroit où vous commencez à couvrir de 9h11 ou de 9h90, par la première attaque par l'administration de Clinton en Janel Abad ou en Soudan, par le bombardement des targets al-Qaida. Si l'approche de l'affaire a été donné les résultats, c'était suffisant, on n'aurait pas eu plus de terrorisme aujourd'hui. Donc c'est un indiqué qu'il n'est pas allé bien. L'approche est faite. Et pour cela, nous avons plus d'terroristes. Ce n'est que pour la première fois, le terrorisme a transformé l'organisation dans le pays. Le terrain de l'affaire, les territoires de l'affaire. Donc ceci ne marche pas. Nous devons admettre cela. Qu'est-ce que l'autre approche que je dirais, qui je pense est plus approprié. C'est plus compliqué. C'est très compréhensible. Je peux le dire, fixer l'approche de l'arabe. Nous devons aller pour la cause de la cause du problème. La cause de la cause du problème est l'anarchie. Oui, c'est vrai que l'anarchie a été prédée dans le Syrie, l'Iraq et l'Alibie dans la forme de Al-Qaida. Mais encore une fois, il y avait une forme de l'anarchie en Afghanistan. Que le monde, après la Russian, la soviève, qui s'est annoncée en Afghanistan, s'est annoncée en Afghanistan et s'est annoncée en Kias. L'anarchie et l'anarchie qui existait en Afghanistan depuis 1992, 2001, a donné un événement pour l'Al-Qaida et l'terrorisme. Donc l'anarchie était là en Afghanistan. Le monde pouvait faire quelque chose. Ils pouvaient fixer l'Afghanistan. Mais personne n'était pas intéressé par le nom de l'Afghanistan. Je me souviens de l'anarchie de l'Ahmad Shama Saud, qui était le plus grand musulman, un jihadiste musulman, dans le bon sens du monde, qui a vécu au monde, qui a vécu à l'Europe, quelques mois avant 9-11, il a été annoncé. Il a été annoncé. L'anarchie a été annoncée. En ce moment, deux jours avant 9-11, l'anarchie d'Ahmad Shama Saud a été assassinée. On le sait. Donc fixer l'anarchie, fixer le monde arabe, c'est la solution. Mais je vais retourner à l'approche de la courante. L'approche de la courante, ce que nous avons maintenant, c'est d'aller à l'Al-Qaida, à l'ISIS, à l'assassiner, à utiliser les drones. Par exemple, ce que nous avons fait en Syrie pour l'année dernière. Ils ne l'aimaient pas. Il y avait beaucoup de landes à l'ISIS. Il y avait plus de landes à l'ISIS, à l'ISIS, dans les mains des Syriens qui étaient soutenus par la Turquie, ou les Kurdes qui étaient soutenus par les Américains, puis des territoires qui étaient libérés par les Russes. En fait, les Russes, c'est terrible. Donc, il doit y avoir quelque chose d'accord. C'est les gens qui ont la motive de freiner eux-mêmes sur l'ISIS, pas les Russes, pas les Américains, pas les Syriens, pas les États-Unis, pas les États-Unis, les Syriens, les Arabes, ils sont ceux qui demandent d'être libérés par l'ISIS. L'ISIS n'est pas le futur de l'ISIS. Le futur de l'ISIS c'est ce qu'on a vu dans l'Égypte et l'Égypte en 2011. Il n'y avait pas de signes de l'ISIS, pas de signes de l'ISIS, pas d'une picture de l'ISIS. Les gens voulaient une démocratie dans le sens de l'ISIS. C'est ce que les gens regardent. Mais parce que nous n'avons pas supporté les gens à cette junction de l'histoire, le chaos et l'anarchie sont réveillés dans certaines zones de l'ISIS. Donc, l'ISIS et l'ISIS, ont été l'alternative. Cette approche nous rend des leaders de la guerre et des strategistes qui perdent la vision stratégique. Quand ils sont dans le milieu de cette approche, ils perdent des valeurs ethiques. Ils commencent à dire qu'on va choisir Bouchard avant que nous comptons l'ISIS. Bouchard avant l'ISIS. Or, l'ISIS avant Bouchard. C'est ce que j'ai correcté. C'est ce que j'ai fait wrong. Parce que, par exemple, l'attirant est partie du problème. C'est ce que nous avons l'ISIS. C'est ce que ses actions, ses mauvaises administrations, ses défaises, ses injustices, ce qui lead à la chaos en Syrie ou la chaos en Irak ou la chaos en Libye. Et le résultat était l'ISIS. Donc, cette approche distorte notre vision et fait que beaucoup de leaders ont dit le même chose. l'ISIS d'abord, puis Bouchard. Maintenant, il y a de plus d'acceptations de Bouchard et de plus d'insistir sur l'ISIS. En fait, personne n'est à l'ISIS maintenant en Syrie d'excepter les gens de la Syrie. Cette approche lead à plus de chaos. Et c'est exactement ce qu'il pourrait y avoir plus en Irak. En Irak, pour nous de perdre la vision stratégique, nous n'avons pas vu ce que l'Iran fait dans la région. L'Iran d'expansion, l'Iran de hajavani dans la région. Ce n'a pas été vu. Parce que cette approche discrète, nous n'avons pas vu les groupes radicaux qui sont aussi mauvais que l'ISIS. Tout est différent entre eux que les groupes radicaux qui sont aussi malade comme violents. Ils n'ont pas des vis-à-vis. Lorsque les radicaux radicaux sont radicaux, ils se font un threat. Lorsque les radicaux radicaux qui sont en Syrie, qui sont en Irak, qui exercent leur hajavani, qui font plus de chaos et plus de disturbances dans les régions. Ce n'est pas vu. C'est un attaque de l'initiative de comment cette vision nous a perdu dans la planète stratégique. Donc ce que on doit aller pour l'approche de Fixer l'Arc. Le plan de l'Arc est une approche qui inclure l'arc Mais en même temps, vous devriez avoir un plan de fixation du monde arabe complètement, pour remettre ça de la tyrannie, de l'injustice, de l'impérance, de les économies d'accès. Et si nous faisons ça, le cycle va continuer. Je me souviens, l'attaque d'attaque très stupide n'a pas été faite dans les années 90, c'est 30 ans plus tard. Donc c'est déjà 30 ans plus tard. Donc nous devons changer de course et adapter un cours plus compréhensible pour fixer le problème de l'attaque. Je vais juste finir maintenant avec que tout le monde a ses ices. Pourquoi j'ai mis tant d'infos sur le chaos et l'anarchie ? Oui, nous avons un très bon, brutal, agréable forme d'extrimentation. Mais dans toute la société, il y a un élément de nos groupes, qui ont l'air d'utiliser des violences contre le système. Mais en Europe ou en Montagnes ou en France, ils sont petits dans les numéros. Mais si Dieu forbid, dans les pays qui appuient à la stabilité et à l'ordre, si l'anarchie, pour une raison, est réveillée en quelque partie de France, ces radicaux seront émergés. C'est pourquoi nos radicaux sont émergés dans notre région. Ce n'est pas parce que nous, les Arabes, sont radicaux en s'entraînant, c'est juste parce que le système a déclenché. Donc nous devons recruter le système. Recruter le système n'est pas pour s'assurer que le système, comme le Bâchard, comme le Gaddafi de Libye, qui est en train d'accepter la picture, mais encore une fois, nous nous soutenons des petits tyrants en Libye ou au Sénat de l'Arabie. Ce n'est pas la solution, c'est le problème. Et les Arabes, les leaders. Merci beaucoup. Merci. Nous allons continuer. Le professeur Wong Chie-Shuh, je pense que l'Anti-Terrorisme a pris un endroit plus haut dans l'agenda domestique de la Chine. Il occupe un endroit plus haut dans la liste de priorités. Et l'année dernière, je pense que c'était en novembre 2015, le Congrés de la Chine a passé la loi de l'Anti-Terrorisme. Il définit l'Anti-Terrorisme. Il a beaucoup de mesures et beaucoup d'expressifs principaux. Mais il n'y a pas beaucoup d'informations publiques sur les attaques terroristes dans les activités de la Chine. Il n'y a pas beaucoup de coverage sur les activités terroristes pour des raisons politiques. Donc, ma information est basée sur des histoires anecdotes que j'ai prises par mes amis qui ont fait de la recherche dans cette région ou des cas isolés. Je l'ai appris pour une chose qui n'est pas publiquement discutée et disponible. On a trouvé que des terroristes suspectifs dans les dernières années ont vécu de Xinjiang à la province sud-ouest en Chine qui s'appelle Yunnan. Ils ont réussi de rester là pour quelques jours. Ils ont des connections et ils s'estiment de Yunnan à part de Thaïland. Et puis, de Thaïland, ils ont trouvé de la route à la sud-ouest. Et certains de eux, ou beaucoup d'entre eux, ont été membres d'Al-Qaeda ou d'Al-Daish. On a demandé à l'abri, qu'ils allaient dans son camp, et on a entendu des questions qui se sont enquête. On a de la antique et on aieurs des questions 테quées. Je pense qu'il faut qu'ils soient ! C'est un lieu et leurs représentatives, including Politburo member of the Communist Party Central Committee to neighboring countries, to some countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar, to talk about security in those countries in China and the cooperation between China and those countries in fighting terrorism. Still, we don't know very much about what is really going on. I think the Chinese government is very careful not to speak, to invite trouble. And that's why in our central television reports every night, when there are terrorist attacks, we don't name those organizations like ISIS or other local organizations. We simply call them extremist groups or extremist organizations without specifying their identity. We have the translation of Al Qaeda but don't have the right translation for other organizations. That is very carefully done. So what China does in fighting terrorism? First, we give humanitarian aid to refugees and those victims of terrorist attacks, including our support to humanitarian activities in bordering Jordan and elsewhere. But it is beyond China's capacity to join military operations. We are neither joining the United States nor Russia in their military operations in Syria. Of course, there are some quiet discussions among some people. I know that in the future China may need to send military forces to rescue its own people or safeguard its companies or citizens abroad in those hotspots. But so far, there are no military actions or they are still in the period of discussing establishing some kind of rapid deployment force or something like that. And China's principle is very clear. That is we support legitimate governments of all these countries. And China doesn't really want to have more Arab springs or any movements aimed at undermining legitimate governments in this country or that country. As China's special envoy to the Middle East, Ambassador Gong Xiaosheng said yesterday, China wanted to be nice to everybody, to every government in the region. China does not really want to take side. And nowadays, we are talking about one belt, one road. And the foreign ministry, rather than other ministries, is taking charge of coordinating different government agencies in China to protect Chinese citizens and companies abroad. And to the best of my knowledge, there are also private-owned security companies established in China. There are many, quite a few that are operating. But I think we are more concerned about our neighboring countries. We sometimes mention Pakistan and Afghanistan and Central Asian states as something we should be more concerned about. Because the one belt, one road, a great part of it is called China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. And the corridor passed from Xinjiang to the Indian-Pakistan-occupied Kashmir region. All the way from Kashmir to Pakistan to Guadalport and to the Middle East. And that is a very important route for China to be concerned about. And China also wants to keep some good balance between India and Pakistan and discuss about who should be identified as terrorist organizations and so on. So when I visited India, they made some quiet protest against some Chinese positions. But then, of course, Pakistan is a very, very good friend of China and we want really to maintain this relationship. At the same time, we understand the sensitivities on the part of India and some other neighboring countries. And that is what I really want to share with you today. Thank you. Thank you. We'll end this first round of interventions with Jean-Gui Rekhan, who will tell us what the vision, not only the view, but also the vision from the UN is. Thank you very much. I feel honored to speak after such a distinguished panel of experts. And speaking on behalf of the United Nations, I would like to, first of all, convey the very warm greetings of His Excellency, the Secretary General of the United Nations, Mr. Ban Ki-moon, who in fact has participated in this forum in the past. And so it's an honor for the United Nations to be able to participate and to speak today on this very important subject. In doing so, I'd like to thank the government of the state of Qatar for their very warm hospitality. It provides a lot of support to our United Nations Counterterrorism Center. In fact, it has just announced a very generous contribution to our center. It reflects the leadership of Qatar in fighting terrorism. And I also want to thank the sponsors of this forum, in particular the French Institute of International Relations for inviting us. Distinguished friends and colleagues, why are we speaking about terrorism today? Let me first start with the preface that the reason why we are concerned for terrorism is because it has a human face. And what is that human face? It is the face of the victim, who too often is forgotten in the wide intellectual policy debates that take place around the world. If we reflect today that, in fact, this very day, there have been terrorist attacks in Mali in which people have been killed, in Afghanistan in which people have been killed. And even over the past week in my own country, in Pakistan, in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, there was a huge attack.  If you look at what is happening in Syria, in Aleppo, or in Iraq, in Mosul. So we have a duty and a responsibility, not just to talk about terrorism, not to just hypothesize, but the time has come for action. Not only action, the time has come for a call to unity and action. Now there is a lot of rhetoric about terrorism and a manipulation of terrorism for many different reasons for which I will not go to here. But I wish to submit a number of propositions to you as friends who are concerned about terrorism. First of all, not only does terrorism have a human face, it is also a phenomenon in which the primary victims of terrorism are Muslims today. And the primary forces who are fighting against terrorism are indeed here in the Muslim world, here in the state of Qatar and around the world, as I said earlier. And so we are all in it together and at the United Nations there is one principle that we believe in that the Secretary General of the United Nations is underlined.  It is a pure evil in itself and every society throughout history has experienced extremism and terrorism. So let us not malign any particular religion or any particular region of the world. That is why I am saying and if we reflect today what is the quality and nature of terrorism and I hate to use this word quality it is an evolving phenomenon, a dynamic phenomenon it is becoming at the epicentre of conflicts. In fact we see today a vicious vortex developing between protracted conflicts, the exploitation of those conflicts by terrorist groups and the further proliferation of violent extremism around the world. Here is a very damning statistic. Today there are foreign terrorist fighters more than 30,000 of them coming from more than 100 countries. That tells us that terrorism is not located in one region. That terrorism is a global phenomenon and we are and we have to be looking at this and take a global approach to this spreading global disease. And if we are to address this vicious vortex between as I said protracted conflicts if you look at what is happening in Syria or you look in Iraq or in Libya or in Somalia in Afghanistan the conflict has been going on for more than 30 years. Distinguished friends let us ask ourselves are we in a better place since 911 or in a worse place? I think you know the answer to that when you see military operations pitch battles going on in two of the cities of Syria and Iraq. In fact the second largest city of Syria which is Aleppo and the second largest city of Iraq which is Mosul. Cities that are of millions of people and which thousands of innocent civilians children women and men are dying. And so the answer if I may say so to the question of are we better off than 911 or worse off to which I believe you have the answer is the question is what do we do about it? If you look at the response of the international community since 911 that response has been centred on one word and that word is counter counterterrorism counter extremism counter radicalisation and I submit to you distinguished friends that the word counter has been a response we are reacting whilst the terrorists have the initiative and that reaction has been mostly a military security response and that clearly has its limits and so the Secretary General of the United Nations Mr. Ban Ki-moon has worked over the last year and mobilise the whole United Nations system to present a new approach and that approach is centred on one word and it's in the antidote to the counter approach it is the word prevention now that's common sense that's common sense that we should be taking a preventive approach but the time has come to mainstream the prevention approach not to make it a lip service but to take action on it and so the Secretary General of the United Nations presented to the General Assembly of the United Nations a few months ago a United Nations global plan of action to prevent violent extremism what we call PVE and why is that the continuous ideologies as those perpetrated by ISIS, Boko Haram Al-Shabaab and many other groups are fueling terrorism and so the time has come for us to really look upstream at the drivers of violent extremism as Mr. Khashoggi just pointed out to us the word root causes and here the Secretary General has underlined the importance of a number of strategic priorities first of all we need to look at our youth today the world has 1.8 billion youth it is the largest population of young people in the history of mankind the 16 to 24 year old demographic is the primary prey of terrorist groups such as Daesh and we must look at how do we engage with youth not as a negative but as a positive because I submit to you that most young people are not ticking time bombs they aspire for the very same things that all young people have aspired for which is to pursue a dream a dream to change the world and we must respond to the crying call of young people today because today they have a new Molotov cocktail which is carried in this the social media between the aspirations of youth and social media they have the means to change the world and that is why Daesh is ahead of us in targeting young people and maligning them and mobilizing them to create disorder in the world as one of my speaker friends said just now so we are now looking at taking an inclusive approach when we look at youth we need to look at other aspects gender employment skills development engaging local communities all of these are outlined in more than 70 recommendations that the Secretary General has presented to the UN General Assembly which responded resoundingly by a consensus resolution in July and we, my United Nations counter-terrorism center is now moving to work with governments around the world to look at how can we respond to promote the development of regional and national plans of action to prevent violent extremism and here I will tell you that we as the United Nations also have to be extremely humble in recognizing that there is no one clear pathway to the defeat of terrorism or to mobilizing the prevention of violent extremism every society, every country must have national ownership even the most powerful countries in the world do not have a clear answer on how to deal with this but what we may need to look at is our methodologies, is our political approaches ultimately terrorism is not a military problem it is not a technical problem it is a political problem in the first instance we must look at what political policies we collectively and the national community and each government is pursuing because ultimately terrorism must have a political solution in fact in many of the countries where there is disorder as one of my colleagues said and where there is conflict these are the places where terrorists spray so we must look at taking inclusive political solutions in which all groups especially marginalized groups those of you disenfranchised most of whom are youth must feel that they can participate and contribute in a constructive way time is short dear friends and therefore I will conclude let me just say that I would like to end where I started which is the point about victims and why is the issue of victims important today we see children babies washed away in the seas of the Mediterranean on the shores of Europe we have a moral responsibility not to see children floating in the seas of the Mediterranean and other seas and therefore we must look at our own actions before we look at the actions of others and see how is it that we are contributing to the effort, the global effort the United Nations stands ready to work with you to realize that global effort and that is in a very small way why the Secretary General has presented his UN plan of action but a plan by itself means nothing it must have resonance and most importantly impact and where does that impact matter it matters in terms of victims and why does it matter because we must prevent ultimately victims that's what prevention is all about if we are to measure how we are doing in fighting terrorism we must measure it by the number of victims that we are preventing and if today the number of victims is going exponentially then we must again look at our policies and ask ourselves what is it that we are doing thank you very much indeed thank you very much Mr. Kahn so we have about 15-20 minutes and before we go to the room I would like to ask a few questions to our panelists and perhaps in reverse order perhaps quick questions with quick answers and then we will move to the public to Mr. Kahn I think it would be really interesting if you could tell us a bit more about the center and the task force that is how they are actually working, how they are interacting with governments and give us a more precise view of the work they are doing so that the audience might become more familiar with them to Professor Wang Jizhe I would like to push you just a bit further on Pakistan Recently China blocked the inscription of an affiliate from Hisbuth Tahrir to the UN terrorism list and so there is indeed a question that is posed to cooperation to fight against terrorism in the future of Chinese-Pakistan relation as it relates precisely to that question of terrorism to Jamal Khashoggi I would like to ask you about one thing that Saudi Arabia is doing which is deradicalization deradicalization is sort of the gral for many governments around the world does it exist that is prevention of terrorism that Ben Kimoon would insist we need to do is something but deradicalization that is intervening expost after someone has been radicalized seems a very high challenge that has not been properly managed by pretty much anyone and if you could enlighten us on this that would be interesting to Mr Nahanayan I really appreciated your point about the need to defeat philosophies, these pernicious ideologies and philosophies so the fight is not just about security and judicial cooperation and police but also about ideology which is part of the problem if you had to elaborate a bit further on what that exactly mean or rather what are the let's say the tracks that we could think of to go in this direction of defeating philosophies defeating ideas is a pretty arduous task and if you had other ideas it would be really interesting and last but not least Sergei, I'd like to push you a bit on the Russian intervention in Syria because you talked about the need to stop foreign interventions and it seems that Russia is doing just that intervening and more precisely on the question of Aleppo Staffan de Mistura estimated the number of al-Nusra fighters in Aleppo, in East Aleppo to about 400 maximum out of 5 to 8,000 fighters in East Aleppo, that is they are really about 5% to a maximum of 10% to less than 10% actually of the fighters so it seems that the fierce fight against the rebels in Aleppo is not really about fighting al-Nusra but really about what the other aim that you mentioned that is to say supporting supporting existing government and I say existing because you said legitimate government and I'm not sure that the government of Bashar al-Assad especially with what's happening right now can be considered legitimate and so do you really think it's a long-term solution, a minority government that is hated by a lot of people in Syria or do you think it's part of the problem more as Jamal Khashoggi was suggesting perhaps we could start by this and go in reverse order Thank you for the question first of all of course I don't know the figures and I with all my great respect I don't trust anybody including my own press because it is a I mean we are living in a fog of war but it quite be possible he's right so what we are doing is we are defeating terrorism and we are defending legitimate government and we are stopping the practice of which has been imposed on the world during the last 15 years of regime change I hope that with that less than others will stop that process I mean it started with 1999 with a criminal indiscriminate bombing of Yugoslavia now we are deterring that kind of practices so that nobody in the world will ever think that could be repeated so as to the legitimate of the government the government is there it is recognized by the UN and international community which will be there future government of that country when we impose some kind of peace and order and if it is imposeable of course we do not know what kind of government so we are not there for Mr Assad we are there though I remember very well that some countries which are great friends of ours we are from the beginning saying that Assad should go we are not saying that Assad should stay we are there for principles and for interests and including one very important principle which has been grossly violated during last actually 17 or 18 years and that is a respect for sovereignty never never repeat such acts like attack on Belgrade it was worse than Guernica thanks Mr Nahanayane a few thoughts on defeating ideologies I the question is perhaps the most difficult to answer because if we hadn't the answer then we wouldn't be in the position that we are in today but I just want to make the point that you know there are very different varieties of terrorism and the world has gone and seen this and I think Sergei and others know this only too well you have terrorism based on nationalism and linguistic terrorism and so on I concentrated on one particular because most of the others were limited in scope they confined to particular areas states etc I mean let's see the Chechen rebels in we have problems in India for instance of people who feel that they are not getting their due their own for self-preservation I talked basically of thinking which is really going across countries, territories and is winning people over by appealing to what I would call a conceptual kind of thing a new world is being built and the internet I think almost every minute probably a few hundred thousand children are being taken away into this and they are all being carried away by a holy grail kind of thing it's completely different and where the means are of no consequence we have to achieve the end so that's why I concentrated on just this one particular point of terrorism because others have been dealt with by states some better, some worse some continue, some not concessions have been made and we really know because it's really an idea an idea has been floated that we are producing a world which is very fundamentally different from what you have seen and therefore you join us and for that you can kill you can do anything you can do what happened in Belgium or what happened in France or what's happening in different parts of the world and it's really about problems in a particular region this is going across region now it's happening not only in West Asia it's happening right across the world so it's really an issue of how do you people have gotten this idea how do you meet that idea and it's dangerous because if it goes on at this point so we need to find an idea I think that is not being attended to I think the best brains and the best minds how do you work on this how do you get people because you can't monitor the internet I mean children are sitting in their rooms and ages of 14 and 13 and listening to words come the silent song almost as it is so I think we need to look at it from that point I believe I think that's the general sense here that mere military might are using force I think Mr Khashoggi mentioned it in very short detail we may as I said take and get back more soon but as I said ISIS 2.0 is going to come all over to every other part of the world and we still have the problem on us so I think we need it all I would think that the conference should if it's possible Mr Jahangir Khan should be the right person yes how do we marshal our forces to think of meeting the idea the vehicle and they're using it the vehicle is the internet we need to get an idea and use similar vehicles to defeat that's all that I have to thank you thank you very much Jamal Khashoggi on the radicalisation radicalisation programme is used not for implicated violent activists who are who been tried and committed to long sentences after they carried a violent attack it is it applied to young activists radicals who like attempted to cross the border from Turkey to Syria and they are caught by the Turkish border guards and handed over to Saudi Arabia those ones the Saudi government they have carried out a crime because we have a law in Saudi Arabia that prevent joining war in out of the country so they have violated the law and they will be sentenced no matter what to a few years in prison but it's going to be a three or four five years sentence so eventually they will come out of the prison at that time they will go through a course of the radicalisation the government knows that they will eventually come out so they have a potential hazard to the society some succeed some fail the rate varies the last percentage I saw in a local newspaper that they had 15% failures and 85% success of most of the released detainees of the program also another big segment of individuals who enjoy this program I don't know if the word enjoys correct are the one supporters of radicalism who were caught tweeting or writing on social media in support to Al Qaeda they were not caught supporting Al Qaeda organization or they are not even part of Al Qaeda organization or ISIS organization those also will be arrested and go through the program and I in brief radicals sometime grow up grow out of radicalism it is not something you live up all your life in it thank you professor Wang Chishol on Pakistan we are not in a position to discuss specific cases but in our relationship with Pakistan I think the principle is that Pakistan is probably the most important and close friend we have in the Islamic world as a whole and Pakistan gives China valuable support on many international settings and in return China has strengthened its cooperation in military economic terms with Pakistan so we have to discuss very specific cases some sensitive cases with the Pakistani government although we also understand that there are sometimes different opinions within Pakistan itself and also we have sporadic activities in Pakistan for instance some anti-China demonstrations in parts of Pakistan related to China's commercial activities so there is a very very close consultation between the two governments taking also the consideration of China's relationship with India with Afghanistan that's the principle thank you very much and last Mr Kahn so on the day-to-day work at UNHU center and task force thank you I will not bore you with the small details of the day-to-day work of our center but what I will explain to you is what is the context the context is as I explained there is today a great deficit in international cooperation relative to the growing transnational threat of terrorism what do I mean by that well as I explained the nature of terrorism is increasingly across borders as we see the bombing taking place in Syria and Iraq we see terrorists moving across borders sometimes they can move across four or five borders very quickly and they look for new opportunities when you have terrorists coming from more than 100 countries that in itself is an evidence so what is the relevance of my center at UNHU center well our main effort is to strengthen international collaboration in a practical way and it is based on a very concrete mandate that comes from the UNHU you know that until today there is no agreed definition no international agreed definition of terrorism at the UNHU for years the legal committee has been debating forever what is the definition of terrorism and we know what the reasons why there is no definition is because one man's terrorist has been another man or another woman's liberation fighter and vice versa and so notwithstanding the fact that there is no agreed international or united nations definition of terrorism the general assembly of the united nations all the member states of the united nations still manage to adopt a global consensus document called the global counter terrorism strategy that was adopted ten years ago and our job as the united nations my counter terrorism implementation task force that coordinates 38 UN agencies is to support member governments in implementing the global counter terrorism strategy at the global regional and national levels and that is now being complimented by the new united nations plan to prevent violent extremism one last point in this context is that the UN global counter terrorism strategy it's first pillar is called conditions conducive the reason is called conditions conducive is because member states could not even agree to call it root causes that in itself was politicized at the united nations because some countries were not comfortable with the word root causes and they had to adopt another terminology called conditions conducive and for the last ten years that first pillar remained moribond until member states finally responded to the call by the secretary general to look at in effect root causes by addressing the drivers of violent extremism and that is why now the plan of action to prevent violent extremism has is meant to give content to that first pillar of the UN global counter terrorism strategy and our UN counter terrorism center now is working across the world including here with the eminence state of Qatar I've come here to sign an agreement when how we can strengthen our collaboration to step up our efforts to support governments around the world in preventing violent extremism thanks very much we have time for just a few questions and we'll take them in turn I see Mr Matt Issa from Malaysia on the first round microphone thank you I'm from Malaysia representing the global movement of moderates a Malaysian initiative in providing CV and PVE and we are following very much very close the development in the UN especially the last meeting in Geneva and echoing what Mr Jamal has mentioned about the need for us to solve the issues according to the language of the day I think this is what is very much needed now as far as counter narrative is concerned and especially narratives that are related to religion I'm not saying much of that being done in as far as CVE or PVE in our counter narrative so if that could be promoted especially from Saudi from Qatar there will be a good effort and these narratives are being exposed to youth especially in that part of the world as you know that they are very attractive now or very attractive now in Malaysia in Indonesia, in southern Thailand the second thing is again echoing to what Mr Khan has mentioned about victims I think one part we need to expose or let the world know about victims but we also need to expose the sector of act of terrorism being a muslim I feel embarrassed now the topic of the discussion is about terrorism but the whole concentration is about muslim terrorists no single word was mentioned about the act of terrorism where the victims are muslim for example the latest situation in Burma, in Myanmar how the muslims the Rakhine are suffering the atrocities the ethnic lensing that's happening up there and I think the world need to be open or need to open their eyes also on the situation in that part of the world and the victims being muslim and so on and so forth thank you behind you, the lady in yellow suit thank you for this beneficial panel I just have a comment it's not a question for Mr Sergey Karaganov he said I quote that CC didn't prepare Koudite the whole Egypt would have been in flames I actually strongly disagree to this statement because terrorist bombs bombs in Sinai Peninsula has increased after his Koudite and the number of innocent Egyptian soldiers and other like people there like that die on monthly basis increased, significantly increased and on the other hand if we can define my own definition for terrorism as the killing of innocent civilians so that's exactly what CC did when he killed around 1000 in Rabaa massacre that the human rights watch report said that it was the worst massacre in Egypt's modern history so CC wasn't the hero that saved Egypt from terrorism but he was the dictator who killed and violated human rights but in just like a more formal way, thank you Thanks, the gentleman just the rank in front of you Merci beaucoup I don't know if I will speak in French or English French, ok En fait pour moi le terrorisme c'est le plus grand défi du 21e siècle ce n'est pas le développement de l'Afrique, l'Afrique va se développer croyez nous c'est le terrorisme qui est le plus grand défi et c'est la plus grande menace à la qualité de vie parce que quand vous vivez avec autour de vous, vous ne savez pas s'il y a un acte terroriste qui se prépare vous ne pouvez pas bien vivre malheureusement je dois suivre un peu ce qui a été dit tout à l'heure par le directeur d'Al Arabia et tout ce qui on parlait notamment le représentant des nations unies on n'a pas encore attaqué les causes profondes jusqu'à aujourd'hui pour moi peut-être en train de faire la prévention de court terme mais la prévention de long terme c'est comment faire pour que le problème disparaisse de la scène ça c'est un combat de longue haleine on parle des SDG Sustainable Development Goals pour moi il faudrait avoir un Sustainable Peace Goals si je peux dire ça commence déjà à l'école pour que la tolérance se développe dans les écoles qu'on éduque dans tous les pays les jeunes pour s'accepter pour que celui qui vit en Europe qui ne dise pas que l'islam c'est l'ennemi etc. je suis pas sûr qu'aujourd'hui la situation soit en tout cas gérée comme il le faut dans les différents états donc il faut faire cet effort au niveau culturel, au niveau de l'éducation le reste c'est des agendas intérieurs il faut que les pays développent l'emploi des jeunes etc. mais le plus important c'est le message clé comment développer la tolérance au niveau mondial et ça je ne suis pas sûr qu'aujourd'hui il y ait des initiatives fortes au niveau des étapes merci beaucoup Alfredo Valedao ici derrière vous merci et après une dernière question ça marche respect for sovereignty c'est un message pour l'intégrité d'Ukraine mais ce n'est pas le point Mr. Karaganov nous montre 2 types de terrorism Stade terrorism Hitler ou NGO terrorism non gouvernemental je pense qu'il y a un troisième type qui est plus plus lethal et pervasive dans notre monde aujourd'hui c'est Stade terrorism on peut voir que tout le monde Pakistan, Darfur et pour ça je pouvais même mettre Dombas mais l'idée est défendre des étapes existants dans le nom de stabilité et contre les caos oui, ça ne veut pas défendre des régimes existantes nous savons tous qu'on a des régimes sponsorisants et on sait aussi que les régimes brutales et totalitaires n'ont pas de terrorisme qui est assez donc il n'y a pas de manière qu'on puisse combattre le terrorisme sérieusement si on ne s'occupe pas de ce problème d'étapes sponsorisants qui est la plus importante aujourd'hui qui signifie que la communauté internationale de tout ce qui signifie ce terme doit décider sur la légitimité des régimes, pas sur la légitimité des étapes merci, et une dernière question et puis nous devons s'occuper de votre droit ici merci quand j'ai écouté les intervenants je suis convaincu une fois de plus qu'il est impossible de combattre le terrorisme malheureusement nous faisons toujours une erreur, il y a les bons et les mauvais terroristes quand on écoute les intervenants tout le monde va parler de la fenêtre de la politique de son état d'abord il faut comprendre une chose que depuis le début de l'histoire le terrorisme et les terroristes ont été toujours soutenus par les états et on parlait du terrorisme c'était sponsor terrorisme moi je dirais qu'il n'y a que ça aucun groupe terroriste ne peut se développer sans le soutien d'un groupe d'un état ou d'un service de renseignement donc il faut prendre ça d'abord comme un constat parce que les états malheureusement font une guerre asymmétrique contre d'autres états via le terrorisme et ils utilisent le terrorisme diplomatique dans le passé, aujourd'hui on parle de terrorisme islamique parce que dans le passé l'idéologie était le marxisme et le léninisme et les gens faisaient la terreur enant du marxisme et du léninisme après la chute de l'union soviétique malheureusement la religion est à nouveau devenue une valeur politique partout dans le monde dans le monde chrétien et dans le monde musulman aujourd'hui on utilise la religion pour faire du terrorisme et personne ne peut expliquer qu'un groupe terroriste sans le soutien d'un état ou d'un service de renseignement peut se développer par exemple, prenons le cas de plusieurs groupes je vais terminer dans les médias ou ailleurs on parle toujours par exemple pour un certain groupe on parle de terrorisme pour d'autres on parle de combattant de la liberté pour d'autres des guerriers nous avons tous malheureusement notre part de responsabilité que ce soit les médias, que ce soit les injures, que ce soit les universitaires ou les chercheurs parce que nous faisons cette distinction entre les terroristes et je vais terminer en disant que si aujourd'hui tout le monde ne condamne pas de le terrorisme sans dire mais parce qu'ils ont commis cet acte terroriste mais et essayer de trouver une raison aucune raison qu'il soit d'or politique ethnique ou idéologique ne peut expliquer et ne doit expliquer la tuerie ou la carnage des innocents merci beaucoup je vais me tourner vers le panel et simplement en proposant sa entrevue il faut vraiment qu'on arrête bientôt peut-être Sergei qui a été interpellé à de reprises de répondre s'il le souhaite merci, est-ce qu'il y a quelqu'un d'autre sur le panel qui veut adresser des questions qu'on a beaucoup d'entre eux étaient commentaries mais est-ce qu'il y a quelque chose que tu veux ? oui c'est l'idée de la narrative de l'account est belle mais ça ne marche effectivement on a besoin on a toujours besoin d'un narrative de l'account mais je pense que le plus efficace de la narrative de l'account c'est d'avoir un travail en état un bon gouvernement c'est ce que nous roulons la logique de l'extrême d'avoir un hope si pas de la société le hope de la société de la société je crois que Tunisia pour exemple même si elle a un peu de l'anarchisme ici et là elle va se produire parce que les gens ont commencé d'avoir des espaces les gens dans une société qui perdent des espaces pas de narrative de l'account les causes de la route qui va donner plus de l'anarchisme en Syrie pour exemple aujourd'hui parce que la anarchie qui a des espaces tous les idées radicales pour les jeunes enfants donc on pourrait attendre une génération de radicales en Syrie parce que nous vivons en Syrie dans l'anarchie si nous voulons porter la paix et l'ordre et la stabilité et soutenir les guerres qui veulent un bon futur pour leur pays radicalisme merci merci beaucoup c'est très intéressant discussion


Item number SCP-106, Object Class, Keter, Special Containment Procedures, Revision 118. No physical interaction with SCP-106 is allowed at any time. All physical interaction must be approved by no less than a two-thirds vote from O5 command. Any such interaction must be undertaken in AR-2 maximum security sites, after a general non-essential staff evacuation. All staff, research security, Class D, etc., are to remain at least 60 meters away from the containment cell at all times, except in the event of breach events. SCP-106 is to be contained in a sealed container, comprised of lead-lined steel. The container will be sealed within 40 layers of identical material, each layer separated by no less than 36 centimeters of empty space. Both struts between layers are to be randomly spaced. Container is to remain suspended, no less than 60 centimeters from any surface, by ELO-IID electromagnetic supports. Secondary containment area is to be comprised of 16 spherical cells, each filled with various fluids and a random assembly of surfaces and supports. Secondary containment is to be fitted with light systems, capable of flooding the entire assembly with no less than 80,000 lumens of light instantly, with no direct human involvement. Both containment areas are to remain under 24-hour surveillance. Any corrosion observed on any containment cell surfaces, staff members, or other site locations within 200 meters of SCP-106 are to be reported to site security immediately. Any objects or personnel lost to SCP-106 are to be deemed missing or KIA. No recovery attempts are to be made under any circumstances. Note, continued research and observation have shown that, when faced with highly complex or random assemblies of structures, SCP-106 can be confused, showing a marked delay on entry and exit from said structure. SCP-106 has also shown an aversion to direct sudden light. This is not manifested in any form of physical damage, but a rapid exit to the pocket dimension generated on solid surfaces. These observations, along with those of lead aversion and liquid confusion, have reduced the general escape incidents by 43%. The primary cells have also been effective in recovery incidents requiring recall protocol and observation is ongoing. Description, SCP-106 appears to be an elderly humanoid, with a general appearance of advanced decomposition. Disappearance may vary, but the rotting quality is observed in all forms. SCP-106 is not exceptionally agile, and will remain motionless for days at a time, waiting for prey. SCP-106 is also capable of scaling any vertical surface, and can remain suspended upside down indefinitely. When attacking, SCP-106 will attempt to incapacitate prey by damaging major organs, muscle groups, or tendons, then pull disabled prey into its pocket dimension. SCP-106 appears to prefer human prey items, in the 10 to 25 years of age bracket. SCP-106 causes a corrosion effect, in all solid matter it touches, engaging a physical breakdown in materials several seconds after contact. This is observed as rusting, rotting, and cracking of materials, in the creation of a black, mucus-like substance, similar to the material coating SCP-106. This effect is particularly detrimental to living tissues, and is assumed to be a predigestion action. Corrosion continues for 6 hours after contact, after which the effect appears to burn out. SCP-106 is capable of passing through solid matter, leaving behind a large patch of its corrosive mucus. SCP-106 is able to vanish inside solid matter, entering what is assumed to be a form of pocket dimension. SCP-106 is then able to exit this dimension from any point connected to the initial entry point, examples, entering the inner wall of a room, and exiting the outer wall, entering a wall, and exiting from the ceiling. It is unknown if this is the point of origin for SCP-106, or a simple layer, created by SCP-106. Limited observation of this pocket dimension has shown it to be comprised mostly of halls and rooms, with data-expunged entry. This activity can continue for days, with some subjected individuals being released for the express purpose of hunting, recapture, data-expunged. Addendum – SCP Review Notes Due to the exceedingly difficult to contain nature of SCP-106, SCP is to be reviewed every three months or during a post-breach incident. Physical restraints are impossible, and direct physical damage appears to have no effect on SCP-106. Current SCP revolves around basic observation and immediate response. Previous, more proactive special containment procedures have been recalled, due to the events of breaches. Notes on behavior SCP-106 appears to go through long periods of dormancy, in which it will remain completely motionless for up to three months. The cause for this is unknown. However, it has been shown that this appears to be used as a lulling tactic. SCP-106 will emerge from this state in a very agitated state, and will attack an abduct staff, and cause gross damage to its containment cell on the site at large. Recall protocol data-expunged SCP-106 appears to hunt and attack based on desire, not hunger. SCP-106 will attack and collect multiple prey items during a hunting behavior event, keeping many alive in the pocket dimension for extended periods of time. SCP-106 has no determinable limit, and appears to collect a random number of prey items during an event. The inner dimension accessed by SCP-106 appears to be only accessible by SCP-106. Recording and transmission devices have been shown to still operate inside this dimension, though recordings and transmissions are very degraded. It appears that SCP-106 will play with captured prey. It appears to have full control of time, space, and perception inside this dimension. SCP-106 appears data-expunged Recall protocol In the event of a breach event by SCP-106, a human within the 10 to 25 years of age bracket will be prepped for recall, with the compromised containment cell being replaced and restored for use. When the cell is ready, the lower subject will be injured, preferably via the breakage of a long bone, such as the femur, or the severing of a major tendon, such as the Achilles tendon. Lower subject will then be placed in the prepped cell, and the sound emitted by said subject will be transmitted over the site public address system. SCP-106 will typically begin to gravity toward the lower subject within 10 to 15 minutes after hearing the subject. Should SCP-106 not respond to the initial broadcast, additional physical trauma is to be administered to lower the subject at 25-minute intervals until SCP-106 responds. Multiple lower subjects may be used in the case of major breach events. SCP-106 will typically enter a dormant state after finishing with a lower subject. In addition, subjects may data expunged. Lesson complete. If you missed the previous orientation, go watch SCP-105, Iris, right now. Or for the complete course, watch this playlist.


Hi, it's Bridget, and welcome to Above Life Channel. The purpose here is to inspire your spirit and to fill you with hope. Now, this is like the third time I've started this video, okay? I am recording this the first week of May, 2022. I'm actually in Seattle, Washington area, and I am here on the West Coast because I am having the opportunity for a couple of weeks to spend time solo to really work on my own, do my own self-work that is extraordinarily important. Not everybody has this opportunity to actually go away from your home and your actual human responsibilities to do this kind of deep or soul work, and I'm blessed to be able to have it and have the support to do that. If you are watching my Instagram, Bridget inspired on Instagram, you'll see all my pictures and my posts. I've been spending a lot of time in nature and walking outside and a lot of time journaling and really doing meditations and yoga and just feeling into this process for me, this journey and trying to allow things to come forward, to shift, to move, to be more revealed and vulnerable with myself for myself. And one of the things that I've identified over and over and over again is fear. There's a lot of fear on this healing journey in general, just on this life path in general. For many of us, you're all feeling that in some way, shape, or form, or you're trying hard not to feel that. So the channeling session today is gonna be up for grabs as far as spiritual support because I've been doing a lot of work with Divine Feminine and I've also been getting some nudges from the life purpose work that I do here on Above Life channel and remembering how it started. So there's a little bit of Prince vibes that I've been connected into the last week or so and also energies of Divine Feminine like Marilyn Monroe and Judy Garland and stuff. So in fact, that's who we'll talk to as Judy. We'll bring her forward. Judy, Judy, my cutie. Come on forward, Judy Garland. Now you guys might be like, Bridget, how is this helping you on your personal healing journey? Well, it's helping a lot because these afterlife spirits that we talk to about and with on Above Life channel, they have a sense of self-awareness now from the afterlife because their pure spirit perspective looking back upon life. So they can give us insight that we cannot obtain until after we're out of the body and then it's kind of not valid. It's like having a coupon you can't use anymore because it's not valid, it's expired. So let's get this information, this intel while we can and while it's gonna be helpful and useful to us. Judy is such a wonderful guest. Oh my gosh, darling, I have not seen you forever. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. In fact, you brought me a really wonderful client, let me just say, and I'm sure he's watching and I hope you're doing well and I haven't heard from you for a bit and I just assume that you are doing the work and you are showing up for your life the best you can and you are a fun person and I just want to shout out to you because you're the reason why I really love talking to her. So, okay. So Judy has had her struggles in life. Yeah, she had a lot of struggles and as a mother, the feeling of not being enough or like, how do I say this? She is very human in her perspectives and I respect and appreciate that. I mean, what good is psychic information? What good is it if somebody's channeling celebrities and they're not giving you actual real human information that's gonna help you now right here now? Exactly, she says exactly. She's drinking ginger ale, I'm gonna say that. Oh my gosh, and then she literally says all of us alcoholics do that. I'm like, what?  We do that. She said it's not quite the same but it gives you the sensation. Oh, interesting. When we talk about sensation, sensory senses, that's interesting because I am finding specifically with this topic of fear that there's so much fear, like I feel so much in resistance coming up as fear and also recognizing the sensory sensation, the sensations of how that feels in my body and where it is and how my mind is kind of sparking into that and almost like kind of gaslighting. It's almost a little bit. I mean, I know that term is very serious but it's kind of like triggering, that's a better word maybe. The fear is being triggered by memories in my mind that I can go to and pull out that affirm the reason why the fear is valid. It's like making valid the fear and the sensations that I have to then want to soothe that, calm it down, cool off the fear. So fear is heat or hotness, then I wanna cool it and soothe it. It's like a burn kind of which is actually interesting because temperature-wise fear feels cold to me. That's interesting, fascinating actually.  Cold, it feels cool to me like ice. Like it freezes things up so that you can't move, it's freeze. Like the trauma response of freeze, that's what fear is for me. And you just jingling that little glass with ice cubes in it of ginger ale and saying it's because I'm this, suggests that you've developed an unhealthy pattern and patterns as we all have in life that you were used to soothe what? The fear, the pain, she says it's both rigid. She shows me an infinity sign and never ending loop of pain and fear and pain and fear and pain and fear. And she says, the fear causes you pain but more than that, she says more than that, it causes you the need to soothe it, to stop it to, and she's not using the word numbing. I know a lot of people use the word numbing, the pain but she's using the word to soothe the pain to find a way to live with it inside of it. And what happens, she says, is the greatest fear, she says in that process of trying to soothe the pain, the greatest fear is to feel it. Like you don't wanna feel it. So the pain is the problem, the pain is what you're trying to avoid and the fear of feeling it is what is controlling you. The fear of feeling your own pain is what controls you, she says, it's controlling, it's manipulative, it's conniving, it's ruthless. The fear of feeling the pain is what controls you. She said, that's addiction. The fear of feeling pain is why addictions happen, she says and there's good ones. There are good things you can do to soothe your pain.  Overly focus, hyper-focus on something completely different to use like what I would say you guys is distraction to actually work in your favor. Use the cycles and the rhythms like the patterns that your brain uses that are unhealthy habits that the same cycle pattern natural organic rhythm to create the cycle, use that to create a better opportunity or option. Like self-improvement stuff, like focus on going to college then or schooling or taking a class or starting a different exercise program or a different eating thing or something like that. It's like something to work on. Does that create soothing though? Something to work on, is that even valid? Cause that's like feels like old school spirituality. Judy, you gotta bust me on this, come on. Is that old school spirituality? She says, I'm drinking ginger ale and I'm a spirit. What do you think? It's not the same, she says. It's not the same. Everyone's pain is different. Your pain threshold, it's different.  Like I'm gonna say emojis. She says they show you pictures. There's so many ways you can show your pain but we are still, we are still guided to repress it. So when someone asks you to share your pain or to suggest to you that you should, just a minute, hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm dogs, I'm dog sitting. Yeah, that would be a, his name is Tucker. Yeah, he's a stinker. He probably heard somebody going out. Oh, he's just trying to protect me. I think, yeah, heard somebody going down the stairwell. Hey, Tucker, Tucker, Tucker, come here. Oh, thank you for keeping me safe. Thank you so much. Gonna give him a little pet. Doing it naturally organically, what is needed. He's not afraid, that wasn't fear based, I don't think, but he's just been helping, he's trying to help. So the pain part, talk to me more about this, okay. So the organic nature of humans is to avoid pain. Stop please, can you stop please? Hey, can you stop? Please stop. The natural organic, we avoid pain and the pain tolerance or the pain thresholds and we're asked to, when we're actually asked how we feel, how do you feel and here's the scale. She says, it's a bit like a deer in the headlights. Do you really wanna know?  Because I don't think you could handle that because my pain is different than your pain as far as this threshold of how much we can handle or manage and it's not about who can handle more. It's about the type of life experience you're having that and how it affects you personally is yours. And she says, the ability to be able to soothe the intensity of the pain, it is natural. It is natural to do that. And so I'm like trying to find, to figure out healthy ways to do that and she's saying, good luck.  You have to have some wisdom on how to ease this pain piece. She says, pain is productive. It is productive because it gives you the power to connect with your heart and without it, you would not break open and you need to be open in order to receive the love that you need, which is why you have the pain in the first place. She says, the pain is caused by feeling unloved. Everything that you're going through and you're experiencing is related to love. If you have it or if you don't have it, how you perceive it to be, it's connected to all of the things of worthiness and accomplishment and goal setting and my mother didn't love me or my dad didn't recognize me or someone bullied me or treated me badly. It's all about the love and your capacity to receive the love has to be, you have to be broken open. You have to be open and the way to open the heart is through the pain. You don't soften your heart to love or perhaps over time, years, decades, lifetimes maybe, but if you want to get to it, you must be present and recognize that there's pain and identify that your personal pain is expressed in ways that are different than my pain. And yet there should not be judgment, but there will be, there is because it's natural. There are critics everywhere, including inside your mind and yourself that do hold you back through that state of fear that you acknowledged. Fear does cause pain, yes, and it does it on purpose in a way to help you grow or to help you numb. Those are your choices. So when you have fear that creates pain, pain present is an opportunity to grow or to numb. You get to choice. It's a fork in the road, she says. It's a fork in the road. Pain is a fork in the road. And you have time. She says, you have time, you're given time. You can pause, kind of feel your way around in there, try to identify which of those little smiley face things works for you or expresses the level or degree of your feeling or the intensity of it in order to be able to soothe it. But the soothing will happen naturally over time as you allow the pain to grow you, to grow you, to open you up, to acknowledge that pain isn't necessarily bad, even though it just feels extraordinarily uncomfortable. It feels bad, but it doesn't mean it is bad. It is growing you. If you choose it as an opportunity to grow you, while you are soothing the pain, you could be soothing that with a tremendous amount of compassion for yourself, dignity, the way you carry yourself through that time, allowing yourself the rest, the days in bed, if that is what is needed.  And what comes through is the love that soothes you, is the love inside you. And that is, I know, I don't wanna get too churchy, she says, or religious, it's God. What someone would say God is, or universe, or the divine mother, or whatever that is for you, she says, inside that part of yourself that rises up when you are so, whoa, that holds you in forgiveness and compassion, that is the part of you that is fiercely loving and completely loyal. And through the fear and the pain and the cycle of the growth and the breaking open, that expands you to be in more love with yourself, for yourself, for you. She says, I had decades of hardship, yeah, of hard times, hard things, struggling, yes. Trying to be what the world wanted me to be and what they expected was extraordinarily complicated and difficult, but it's not unlike your path and what you are dealing with in yourself. Did she smoke, cause she sounds rough, her throat sounds rough. And she says, the soothing comes from facing the pain and loving yourself, being kind to yourself, being compassionate and gentle, caring about your body, filling it with a ton of water so you're not dehydrated, providing yourself the opportunity for others to support you. If an assistant comes in and offers you some vitamin C and you take that and it helps your body, great.  Like really take that in. That's precious. That's soothing. That's the kind of connection that you can gain when you really are showing up then for yourself. She says, that's the power of the pain. It's the, it gives you the ability to show up for yourself and to discover new ways of being in the world, who you are and every day of your life, every point in your life there's a new opportunity to be with this life in a new way, to be a unique version of yourself today. There's not an answer here but to know that pain is not bad is extraordinarily important. It's natural. And even if you can trace it back she says and identify a behavior or something you did to cause that to create that scenario that is giving you an energy of just pure pain right now. Know that it is because there is so much fear and so much energy and resistance around the actual healing that the pain is bringing through for you the gift of the opportunity for healing that's the point of it all. Not a bad choice that you made or a poor behavior pattern or an old school pattern that's resurfacing. It's not because you're bad. You might feel bad but you are not bad and the feeling of pain itself you can get lost in it and that is not a bad thing. She's like saying it's not a bad thing.  You were trying to prevent more pain from coming when you didn't address the pain in the first place.  It's because there's so much fear around being and embracing ourselves in each of the new iterations that we are becoming and as our lives are unfolding as unique individuals that we are. If we could just celebrate that wrap our arms around that and be in love all the time inside of ourselves we would feel much better even ecstatic or euphoric and then at some point the pain will come again but it's not to create hurt or because you did something wrong it's because you're it's a natural part of human expression to step outside and to try and test the waters and then to come back in and try to figure out what that means now through these new experiences you're having and these new thoughts that are coming up that are connected to old belief systems from other people that you got that you weren't good enough for that you had to behave in a certain way in order to get the love or perform in a certain way in order to get the love and that over and over and over again the demands upon you externally in order to keep up that old way of being that has to change that has to be changed and she said and it's fearful it's scary it's scary it's scary and that's okay it's okay to be afraid and it's okay to feel pain she said that's how you're gonna know yourself that's how you will know yourself so I'm gonna have coffee I also do have tea just to be clear not too much caffeine I'm feeling emotional connecting to her right now there's just so much love and support inside of ourselves we have it she was an extraordinary performer she was so talented singing and acting and dancing I mean she did it all and she died alone still trying to be the Judy Garland forced as Francis Gump forced to grow up fast and perform we, you and I, we perform too that's the only way she knew love completely not understanding relationships except for what people can get from you and then she's sharing with me a little bit about her escapism that addiction or soothing patterns that aren't so healthy it could be food, it could be just watching TV instead of going for a walk it could be simple things like just however you escape of social media for example that kind of thing doesn't have to be something massive like an addiction but it can be but she's saying it's the escapist piece the escapism piece she said is something that has long long existed because of the mind it's a fantasy it's not just a simple distraction she says it's a fantasy the fact that you could avoid pain is a fantasy it's not real it's not real at all you cannot avoid pain you can only put off or procrastinate it so the escape she says being a performer entertaining others for a while there on stage I can be in a place of bliss where it feels transcendent so much love from the audience pouring into me and she says and yet I walk off the stage and I can't even remember what happened or how it felt or it's momentary it's fleeting the joy that I can receive is fleeting even though people in the audience may receive an incredible healing energy just from the channeling and the expression of the feeling and sharing myself my talents yet we all do that in relationship we all do that with others we all do that in the world how are you performing how are you using in addition to you guys get out your journals come on how are you performing the escapist piece is natural she says but it is a fantasy that you can avoid pain through that the joy is temporary and she says the pain only lingers because it is attached to the fear of having more and there's this falsehood she says that pain is like a shield so that if you hold some then when others come other pain comes in it'll be deflected or bounced off it she said that is not true it just adds on and then pretty soon it's so compressing that it's you can barely breathe it suffocates the heart it squeezes out all the love and then you're struggling for any little breath of air like love to receive any little bits of feeling good and then you trick yourself into believing that you can be soothed by some kind of an escape your vice of choice whatever that is chocolate, food drugs responsibility living through others if you're a mother and you have children you focus on your children instead of yourself that's escapism as well oh my motherhood she says yes I was horrible I was a horrible mother you can ask my children they would tell you I was a horrible mother she's a horrible why do you say that? she says I loved my children I loved them so much I loved them so much but I was a horrible mother one because I was an addict two because I should have never had children in the first place I wasn't equipped to be responsible for another human being but I tried and I certainly loved them in my way and they loved me back and as it would be expected so I suppose as a mother and with children I performed and they did too maybe that's what you all are doing is performing what if we could be more authentic Judy what would that look like how would that be? that's what you're trying to do she says that's what everyone is trying to do that is actually the goal that is actually the way to wholeness and perform it what do you choose when you're in pain? what do you choose? to be expanded or to numb? you need to choose can we all just take a breath? take a nice breath in kind of an exhale out very heart focused today I'm actually wearing green I'm just realizing the fact that I'm wearing green it's heart based heart chakra energy and healing energy so archangel Raphael we're going to bring in archangel Raphael's energy to help soothe and comfort you as you are going through whatever you are going through at this point in time there's a lot of nuggets of wisdom in here a lot of gems of information coming through this conversation with Judy probably because I've expressed to you that I'm doing my work on this healing journey right now I'm willing to go there into those places of fear and pain it's not easy it's not easy so we bring in archangel Raphael and wrap you with a gorgeous energy a halo of green light like the energy of adventuring the stone I'm also called to share the blue lace agate which is an angelic stone bringing an angelic energy it feels really right right now for us as we're connecting today so gifting that to you as we wrap up this channeling session with Judy Garland in the after life here on above life channel I'm Bridget I'm a psychic medium but I'm also an intuitive life coach and I do help people through this process for themselves as well you can go out and check the details below in the description here on this video also follow me on Instagram Bridget inspired and you can see all the videos are and the reels and the pictures that I'm posting here about my trip here out to the West Coast and the experience that I'm moving through I hope it can inspire your spirit and fill you with hope and encourage you to live your life it's yours it's yours and you get to live it just live it


Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Matt Rogers and welcome to your comments and theories for House of Cards season 5. Now about a week ago, I uploaded a trailer breakdown for the new season 5 trailer that was released. If you haven't checked that out, then you can check that out here. But you guys left a lot of comments and theories on there and I thought I'd make a follow-up video discussing those things. Now before we get started, major spoiler alert for seasons 1 through to 4.  Now I will also be doing a season 5 review, so if you're interested in that then make sure you hit that subscribe button so you notify as soon as it's uploaded. Alright, so let's get into it. So the top comment on the video was from Mark Cedar and he said, Hey man, great video. Just letting you know that at 4.22 that's Laura Moretti, the wife of the guy Francis stole the liver from in season 4. Her and Doug kind of had a thing by the end of season 4. Also, I don't think it's overly surprising Frank won New York. It's a Democratic stronghold kind of like California. I did a text analysis that you can read here. Now I will leave a link to his analysis in the description below. But first things first, I was trying to figure out who this lady is lying down. Not sure if it's in a sexual way or whether she's been knocked out. The fact that Doug's in the car in the next shot is interesting because last time we had a lady in the back of Doug's car, we know what went down. Maybe she finds out too much information and then Frank gets Doug to wouldn't be the first time.  But he did point out that it isn't unusual for the Democrats to win New York. Which leads me to my next comment which is from Faisal Mumtaz. Sorry if I'm massacring your name. But he said South Carolina goes to Conway even though it's Underwoods home state. And New York goes to the Underwoods. Both home states go to the unexpected leader. Which is true but if you remember in season 4 the Clue Clarks clan billboard that was put up for Frank, that was in his hometown so that could be something to do with losing South Carolina. But if the past election is in real life or anything to go by, I suppose it's not that surprising. Next we have a comment from Ayush Jain. Again I'm sorry if I'm stuffing these names up. But he said nice analysis. Just to let you know that is Augustus Underwood at 716 who Frank is choking. Now for those of you who don't remember Augustus Underwood was Frank's descendant who fought in the war. Now this isn't actually Augustus Underwood. It's the guy who played him in the reenactment. But we did see a little bit of him in season 4 in the hallucinations. So it would be interesting to see if this is another hallucination. I don't know why Frank would continue having those unless something else happens to him. Or it could just be a bad dream. Not sure. Next up we have a comment from Unknown Person who said, I think the funeral is for the miller guy who was decapitated by the Ico terrorist in the last episode of season 4. Very well could be. The only question that I have with that is that Clare looks super emotional in this funeral. I feel that she wouldn't be that emotional for this miller guy. Maybe it's just a front though. If she's going to be Vice President maybe she's trying to put on a front to be more family friendly and win the compassion vote. But if that's actually Clare getting emotional, doubt it was the miller guy because she wouldn't get that emotional over that. Alright next up we've got a pretty popular comment here. It's from Adam Kilvington. He said, at 11.56 I think that's the one of the two Americans who took hostages during the terror attack hostage situation in season 4. Unless I'm totally misremembering and those guys are dead already. Can't remember but I swear he looks a bit like one of those guys. I agree. It definitely could be the Ico terrorist. Now there is one issue I have with this and I could be misremembering it. But in the finale of season 4 there was that guy that asked Frank whether he'd like these terrorists dead or alive. And Frank says dead. When you find them, you will kill them. If we're able to apprehend alive we may get. I understand Mr President. So it'd be interesting if they didn't end up killing him and then he ends up in prison but that's the only issue I have with it. But I do agree it's much more likely to be the Ico terrorist rather than Conway. I still very much doubt that's possible. Now Kid Cootie's commented saying that the 10 minute mark is a simple public demonstration. Perhaps Claire is hosting some sort of task force conference but it looks like she's merely demonstrating the functions of a gas mask. Could be.  But as I pointed out in the earlier video, everyone in the background isn't wearing one. So the fact that she is, I don't know, it's sort of open to interpretation there. Now Alpha Blaze 98 says what if the one who dies is Yates? That would explain why she's so distraught at the funeral and the blood on her attire. It could be anyone. I didn't look for him in the scenes. It's possibly Conway's wife spent a little more time with him than we thought and he was a good person. Who knows but it would be quite a lot for Claire. Now that's an interesting thought because it would definitely explain Claire being so upset in the funeral. I don't think she'd be putting on those tears because obviously her and Yates are quite close. I guess maybe we're overdue for a major character to die but I don't know how he could die. Maybe Frank turns on him because he's causing a scandal because of the whole him and Claire thing but Frank seemed really cool about it in season 4 but you know how things change. We've got a comment from Leo Lee saying my guess for the funeral is Brockhart as that would explain the military presence at the funeral and why Conway would be there as his running mate died and Frank would have to be there because Brockhart's service in the military. I so go back to my other point where I think Claire's a bit too emotional for a character like that but again, she could be just putting it on. A simple comment from the Franconian but a question worth asking. Does Kathy Durant die in season 5? Funeral could definitely be for her. There's military there, Frank and Claire, Conway's everyone's there. That would make a lot of sense and that would be a pretty major death in the series but I question how that could have happened too. It's very rare for a secretary of state to be killed but you never know. Now a good pickup from Anton Juned who said could the briefcase Claire is seen within this trailer be the nuclear football? It definitely could be. We can't see very clear in this shot. Now we can see it's some sort of briefcase but not exactly sure if it's the nuclear football or not but it would make a lot of sense for it being in the O4 office but the fact that Claire has it means that she could have taken the reins which could be a major spoiler indeed. Now Lyoko Boy TC said that Frank didn't have an American flag on during the funeral but Conway does. Now as we know the president usually wears a little American flag pin but who knows I think it may just be paying too much attention to detail because I'm pretty sure that Frank is going to win this election. I think that's what it goes without saying now but you never know. Now Anwar Haddad pointed out that at the 1236 mark I skipped over this scene here. That was a complete accident. I don't know how I missed that but I have no idea who that guy is. Doesn't look like the Augustus Underwood that we talked about earlier. Some guy wearing a suit. They're both wearing tuxedo type suits. Could be a nightmare. Could be a hallucination. It's interesting that someone could grab Frank like that and not have the secret service step in but we'll see. Well that's just some of your comments and theories but if you have any more then feel free to leave them in the comments below. Hit that subscribe button so you'll be notified when I release the season 5 review but apart from that thanks so much for hanging out. If you had a good time then spank that like button. This is Matt Rogers, signing off.