Hello everyone, this is Ross at Teacher Talk at the most influential blog on education in the UK. Today I am delighted to be joined by Elizabeth Liber. Elizabeth is the EDHUP Experience podcast host and also LinkedIn's Top Voices of 2020. Good afternoon, Elizabeth, how are you? I'm doing awesome, Ross. Thank you for having me. I'm doing great. Thank you. It's, I mean, obviously we've connected through LinkedIn and your recent award as a Top Voice. How do you feel? I'm excited. How do you feel? I feel awesome. Well, I've got a mixed relationship with LinkedIn, actually, how about yourself? It's weird. I never really was active on LinkedIn until this year. It was like, I had my resume there. I've been at my job for six years, so I wasn't job hunting. So I never went on LinkedIn. And then this year with the lockdown and with being a little bit kind of feeling like displaced, I started to go on there more and more and try to connect with people and kind of get a little bit more of that social aspect of it. And it's been good in that respect, being able to connect with people like yourself that are doing great things. Yeah, for sure. It's great to get that recognition support.  So I'll talk about those things shortly. Just for context for people listening here in the UK, I do have one or two people over in the States who do listen in. Could you just give everyone a little bit of a background into your educational experiences? Sure, yeah, absolutely. I was raised in Fort Lauderdale. I actually have literature since I was 12. I'm actually from the UK. So I was born in London, in Southeast London. My family is from the Caribbean, they're Jamaican, and they actually went to UK when they were teenagers, met, fell in love and had me and my brothers and decided to move to Florida when they were like, I was 12, so they were probably like in their 30s, early 40s. And then they just felt, so they just wanted to do something different. My grandmother was living here and we came here. We were all raised here. So I went to University of Florida. I went there in a full journalism scholarship. I wanted to be a writer. And after being there, I just kind of figured, you know what, I wanna go into education. I just decided I wanted to try something else. So started working in actually K through 12 and then did some time working for nonprofits. So I've actually worked for the Salvation Army. That was one of my first jobs. I didn't know that you're passionate and they haven't experienced the Salvation Army. So I was a volunteer coordinator. I coordinated the Angel Tree program. I did that. From there, I went into higher education working as, I was like, well, volunteers, I recruited volunteers. Maybe I can recruit students. So I started working in admissions and I worked in admissions for almost a decade. And then I switched over to faculty and I've been a faculty member both full-time and part-time for the past decade. I've also worked as an instructional designer, which means that for the past six years or so for my school that I work for currently, still teach part-time as an adjunct instructor for a variety of online programs, community colleges, state schools, private schools. I've worked for pretty much all of them, like a dozen or so. So you're very busy. Very busy. But you know, I love to stay busy. I love to try different things. I think as a, because I design online classes, I like to keep my finger on the pulse of what's going on in the classroom, which is why I always still kind of teach a class here and there. And I've been designing online classes for the past six years, which is coming in handy right now because everybody's pivoted to online.  So if we're kind of, steer our focus towards the COVID pandemic, Elizabeth. And, you know, I've been really interested in academic research of remote learning throughout the last six months. Just give our listeners an insight into the pressures that you faced in your own educational setting during the pandemic, how you've adjusted, and any insights you might have. Yeah, that's interesting. I think for me, it was not as much of an adjustment because I have already been teaching online for quite a, I started teaching online before I taught in the classroom. So I started teaching online. My first job teaching online was in 2008. I taught for Grand Canyon University, which is a huge online school. And I've taught for a lot of big online programs like Strayer University and Ultimate Medical Academy. Some of those schools have like 40,000 students, 50,000 students. So I'm used to like that course load and having to navigate online platforms, which I've done, you know, pretty much consistently over the past 10 years. So it wasn't as big of an adjustment. I think for students, it's definitely different because a lot of students have never taken online. A lot of instructors have never taught online. So I think for a lot of instructors, it has been a big adjustment because they don't understand like, well, how does it work? Do you have to do live classes? Do you do Zoom? Like a lot of people don't really understand that. What do you think it's been the pain barrier? You know, I've been doing webinars for 10 years myself. So it's been pretty easy to switch. What's been the biggest pain barrier you've observed in your colleagues who may not have got that online experience? I think a lot of it is not really understanding the pedagogy. Like a lot of people feel like in order for something to be in order for it to be beneficial or in order for it to be effective or engaging, it has to be like what we're doing. Like we've engaged with each other because we've been messaging. I've seen your posting and I've kind of seen what you're doing. I looked at your website.  But I think people have this understanding that in order for me to learn, like I can learn from you because I go on your website and I can listen to your podcast and I can message you and ask you questions about concepts. I don't have to do that in a live setting. It's good to do it in a live setting, but I wouldn't want to do this eight hours straight. And I think sometimes instructors feel as though the only way to get engagement with students is it has to be in this live synchronous environment, which is what they're used to in the classroom. And the thing that we've all seen is that people get Zoom fatigue. People don't necessarily, being on cam, I'm aware of myself. I'm looking at the background. I want to make sure the kids are not going to make any noise. Is someone opening the door? I mean, up constantly, I have so many different... Or we do that in the classroom too, don't we? And we do, we do that in the classroom, but I think we're not as aware of it. And I think there's something to be said about the idea that synchronous and asynchronous, when we talk about online teaching, pedagogy, most of the big schools that have been doing online well for the past, since the 80s, a lot of them don't even have a synchronous component. So I think synchronous isn't kind of the icing on the cake. You don't have to have synchronous. You definitely can have asynchronous. And I think for a lot of the... It's just like sage on the stage. There was a time where... Has there been a bit of a... Our politicians here in the UK, or at least in England, have been really trying to push our state schools to do more synchronous lessons, which is... And the challenge for teachers working with vulnerable kids is that safeguarding issue. What might happen at home, online, behind the camera? Are there... Is there someone there to support a five-year-old or a vulnerable 16-year-old? Is there a much pressure on teachers over in the US to do that type of stuff? Yeah, I mean, there's definitely... I think for the K-12, there's the concept of trying to replicate what happens in the classroom because of the fact that students are not as self-directed. So they want to give that one-on-one interactive, making sure the students have that support. And there definitely is a lot of confusion about how to do that. And I think my daughter, she did high school online, and I think it just goes back again to pedagogy. There is a conflict between what is good online and how does online function. And my daughter did K-12... I mean, she was in K-12, she did high school online and never had synchronous was not required and she did great. So I think a lot of it is not understanding what online pedagogy really consists of. And a lot of people are very adamant that it has to consist of synchronous, it has to have web, it just like Sage on the stage. A lot of us have like, well, you have to do lecture. It doesn't have to be lecture. You can have, you can walk in a classroom and just do groups. And I've done that for like most of my career. And a lot of people are like, oh my gosh, the heresy! How can you not have lecture? You have to stand up there and blur out information and then do a test. We've learned that that's not necessarily the best way to do it. So I think it takes time. You have to, like I said, my daughter did high school very successfully. I had great relationships to her instructors. I talked to her teachers like once a week and never did she have live sessions. So I think a lot of this is people have to wrap their mind around online learning is different from face to face. And even face to face has evolved over time. So we have to really be... A bit of a balance and an adjustment. And what were tips would you give for, I'm hoping there are no dinosaurs left and we're all pretty much up to speed with Lumen teams and Google classroom. Any insights or what would be your top tips for people still reluctant? Because I'm sure there's one or two that still haven't quite adjusted. I think you have to just wrap your mind around the idea of just trying different stuff. Be creative. This is the same way we do in a face to face classroom. There was a time when people observed my class.   And I'm like, no, I can't do that. I have to be in control. So we have to get safe with the idea that you can be vulnerable. I think my biggest thing that I've used over the past 10 years when it comes to online is discussion board. Discussion board is just like how in LinkedIn we've connected and we've talked.  Let's talk about online learning and let's have a discussion. But we feel totally comfortable with messing each other on LinkedIn and being like, hey, let's talk. That's kind of vibe about this whole online thing. So it's the same thing. I've had the most great relationship with students in an online environment because you put a question out there, post it, just like on LinkedIn, you post a question and then let everybody jump in and talk about it. And sometimes people don't do that in real life. In the classroom, students are hesitant. These are digital natives. A lot of these young students, the digital natives, like we talked about our kids, my son lives on his tablet. So they're used to interacting in online. They do Minecraft. They do roadblocks. They're used to that. So do that.  So could you give our listeners a kind of synopsis of your passions, your kind of day-to-day work in that particular field? Yeah, I mean, I've always an adopter. I think that there's so many different things that you can use that the technology is always changing. So there's all these different, when it comes to platforms, you can use a platform and you could integrate almost anything. Like I'm pretty much like anything that's out there. I just try it. So whether it's integrating different types of discussion boards, whether it's integrating different types of video. I don't think it's necessary that video is bad, but I just think that people tend to get inundated sometimes. It's just like, I wouldn't want to look at an hour-long YouTube video, but I'll look at a five minute YouTube video. So I think we have to just be aware that all these different technologies try them and see what works and see what students respond to. I think sometimes we are like, well, this is what works and this is what worked for me. So this is what it's gonna be. And students are different and students are adaptable. So there's all these different technologies that are out there. There's all these different discussion board technologies. There's all these different interactive technologies, but honestly, just from being in the classroom, students are not as into the technology as they ask into relationship building. It's just like me and you, right? Like if we can use whatever technology that we want, but at the end of the day, we don't have a vibe and I don't develop a connection with you. I think every conversation I have at the moment, and I think regardless of doing it online, we do work in a relationships-based education. Just kind of put me in the corner for technology. What are your kind of go-to tools that you are regularly using today on your phone or on your desktop? That's the thing. And people do that all the time. I literally have people that are gonna pin me down. They're like, what do you use? And I'm like, it really depends on the platform because I'm literally like bare bones when it comes to, I love technology, but when it comes to teaching students, I don't think there's any one technology because when it comes to platforms for us, a lot of times we'll use like a blackboard or we'll use whatever the LMS is, the platform that we use. A lot of times it'll have integrated into it like a collaborate where you use video like this and it has a chat. I'm like, when it comes to students interacting, I don't really think it's necessary about the technology itself. It's about how you utilize, and you could, I tell my students sometimes don't even contact me on the platform. Send me an email or text me. My students love, they could text me at like midnight and I'll respond. Cause I'm like, I'm awake. Why wouldn't I respond, right? And that might not be the same in the K through 12 because obviously it's young kids or whatever the case may be, but the fact of the matter still is, it's all about relationship building. So if you have parents that you're dealing with or students that you are dealing with and you're saying, I have an open door policy and I have the ability to be able to connect with you. When my daughter took classes online, I appreciate it, but the instructors would text me and say, this is where your daughter's at and this is what she's missing. I don't care about the technology. And I think sometimes as educators, we're like, oh, what's the next technology? What can I use? The academic in me, my question was poorly framed, I suppose. Context is what age, what subject, what activity, how long for? So I guess context is key, what works, works in a particular environment. And if I just shift towards diversity, Elizabeth, I just wanna talk about the George Floyd incident that happened, which has rocked and shaped many of us around the world. Can I just ask you for your thoughts on the mood over in the States? It's been really different. That race is a huge issue here in America and the context here is a little bit different than it would be probably elsewhere in the world, but it's an issue all over, I think all over the globe. Here, a lot of people just feel as though we have to kind of rip the covers off of it and it's always something that's kind of like a subtext of race is an issue, but it's very taboo to really talk about it and really put a spotlight on it. And I think for education too, we know that there are a lot of disparities when it comes to race. If we don't talk about those disparities then we're not gonna be able to improve and make it a better environment for our students. We have to have more teachers that are able to relate to the students in the classroom. So the only way to do that is to focus on how do we increase the representation of marginalized students? How do we increase the faculty that look like the students in the classroom? Students are getting more and more diverse here in the States. We went through 2008 with a huge economic decline. So we have less and less students that are from the dominant culture and more of our students are going to be students that are from more diverse backgrounds. So how do we handle that in the classroom and how do we make sure that the faculty and administration and those that the students see are representative of them so that we can be more effective for them? My mind's been ticking over as you've been talking away. Although it's my own memory, I have very few recollections of discussing race probably my entire education until maybe university. And then obviously as a teacher I help my own understanding. And then throughout the last 30 years in the classroom being really good to see, I talk here from a British perspective I suppose, it being a bit more of a prevalent and important discussion in assemblies, lessons, et cetera, et cetera. Where is that in your context, in your college? How often is it just left to maybe anecdotal conversations or is there a specific part of your curriculum where it's consciously discussed in an environment where students learn how to have very healthy discussions on race? It's not discussed and that's really a part of the problem. And that's why people are so frustrated and people have taken to the streets because of the fact that race is something that it's kind of taken as well.  And we all know those of us that live in this culture that that's simply not true. And I've seen that in K through 12 as well as in higher ed that it's definitely something that's not talked about. It's not really a part of the curriculum. When I went to university, when I went to University of Florida, I think I had like one African-American studies class and it wasn't required. So it's definitely not something that is a part of the standing curriculum.  So that's a part of what the discussions have been. How do we teach students in K through 12? How are we more responsive in making sure that we address history and accurately address history? We're coming up on Thanksgiving. What do we talk about? What do we talk about indigenous people and their history of this in this country? And typically I worked on the seminal reservation for a few years and that's, I lived right 20 minutes away from the reservation and didn't know anything about that culture because I just wasn't taught that. So there's definitely a lot of work to be done. I apologize. This is probably a big question but what would be your recommendation? And I know in America you're subdivided into states and then there's sub states within states, et cetera but if we could make a start to get racism just put into the curriculum and at least then maybe informed pedagogy, are there any things that you're aware of that's already happening or would you have some recommendations for policymakers? Yeah, I mean, there's been a lot of talk and I think a lot of it is grassroots. A lot of it is coming from the students that are demanding now that districts be more responsive. There definitely isn't like a state level curriculum each national curriculum, each state is responsible and then like you said, each county or each school district is responsible for kind of making sure that the curriculum is disseminated to the students. So I think it's gonna really take students and parents being more vocal if the states realize that this is something that is necessary and the students are speaking out and that's what I've seen a lot of groundswell in these grassroots efforts where students are saying, hey, you have to teach us this stuff. We don't know any of this stuff and we wanna make sure that we're aware of what's happening and how to be more responsive to it as students and as future leaders, right? Yeah, absolutely. I'm sure you discuss racism and many other things on your podcast. Could you tell listeners about your ed up experience podcast? Yeah, the ed up experience is a podcast that was started in like January by my co-host Elvin is now the producer and I've stepped into a co-host role with Dr. Joe Saluccio. So it's myself and Joe and we basically have interviewed over the past 10 months, about 100, 114 or so. I think we're at right now, ed tech leaders, college presidents, those are the movers and shakers and innovators in business that are on the pulse, have their fingers on the pulse of education, the workplace and how we can be more responsive as a sector. So we have talked about race, we definitely, especially since George Floyd asking schools how they're being responsive. A lot of the same questions that you asked me well, how do you deal with diversity? What are some of your plans? How have you responded to the Black Lives Matter movement and how can we as a sector be more responsive? So it's definitely something that we're asking leaders because without these conversations then we're not gonna see change. So we wanna just have these conversations, make sure that these conversations are normalized because there has been something that has been a little bit undercover. Like we can't talk about that. We don't wanna keep talking about things and bringing up things that make people uncomfortable. The conversations if they're gonna be uncomfortable have to be had in order to make change. I'm reminded of a podcast I did with Dr. Tina Owen Moore and I believe it's the Alliance Wayne Milwaukee. I understand it was the first bully free school in America and she said then when people take time to understand one another there is less opportunity to do harm. And we mentioned about relationships and us connecting on LinkedIn and yourself and your podcast making that online connection that's led to a podcast. So thinking about online world and kids growing up with technology we'd mentioned earlier. What's your thoughts on the social media, Epoch? Everywhere and everywhere you go it's online, it's quicker, it's faster. You can see virality, videos, all sorts of things. What are your thoughts on this social media revolution that we're living in? I love social media. I'm like a true digital native. I had a MySpace page. I've always been like an early adopter when it comes to technology. That's why I'm not really set on one type of technology because I think technology changes so much that we just have to use whatever, grab whatever you have and bring your own personality to it, right? So I love the idea of utilizing technology and I think that as an adopter of technology that's why I don't invest myself in technology.  So I don't really get invested in technology. Yeah, it was my space. I might import the Facebook too, if I'm honest. Right, exactly, right? So I don't really get invested in technology because I think at the core of the technology is gonna be the relationship building skill. Like we wanna be making sure that whatever, even if I'm texting you, I'm gonna be able to develop a relationship with you. So I don't wanna get reliant on it, has to be this type of tool that I'm using. Now these digital natives, they're not even using like Facebook, they're using TikTok, they're using, whatever is new, that's what they jump on. And if we get invested, I think for us older people, we tend to say, well, this is the technology they have to have. And then if you don't have it, then what are you gonna do? Cause they're not using Facebook. A lot of them are getting away from Instagram. Are you creating a TikTok account, Elizabeth? Oh, you already know, of course I did. I'm not seeing it, I'm not checking that. So I'm taking it. You gotta check it out. I'm dancing on there and everything. Because you know what? Anything that's new, I will use it. And then when it gets, like I have Snapchat, but when it's not popping anymore, I just stop using it. So I think we have to get in that mindset, just a little bit hipster. I've tried the Snapchat I gave up. I've done about seven videos on TikTok. And my fear is I've spread myself too thin and it becomes a bit of a workload issue. Do you feel the same? I don't know, because you know what? I still have to rely on, like I always have my tried and true. So a lot of those are just more like icing on the cake. Like if I want to connect with my students a lot of times it's like, okay, we have the platform and we can have discussion in there. If you really need to contact me, you can text me. And all that other stuff is just like fun. So it's almost like, I don't really look at it like, I'm spreading myself too thin. It's almost like LinkedIn or IG or any other technology. I'm just using them. It's just like a vehicle. It's not necessarily something that I'm gonna use to the point where it gets overwhelming, you know? Liz, we've passed my 20 minute barrier. Quite some margin when we get lost in our discussions or at my fault really.  So no pausing and hesitating. So we'll start off easy. If I visited Fort Lauderdale for 24 hours, where would you take me? I would take you to Las Olas. Las Olas is like the downtown Fort Lauderdale. So it's like the place that you go. It's like on the water and there's like bars down there. Can I say that? You might have an adult beverage or two, walk around and it's really laid back. It's not like South Beach, which is super hyper and it's like so much going on. It's a little bit like South Beach 2.0. So that's where I would take you. Okay, thank you. If I deleted all your apps on your phone, which one would you like to keep on it? I would have to see Instagram. I don't care about anything else. Like you could say Facebook. You could say, I should say LinkedIn, but like I use Instagram. I use Instagram like literally every day of my life. Like I cannot almost live without Instagram. So I would have to say Instagram and then maybe LinkedIn would be like my second. Fun memories of the Salvation Army, myself included. What would be, in terms of your experience with the Salvation Army, your recommendations for people that aren't aware of it in terms of the work that they do? I love Salvation Army. It was like one of my first jobs out of college and I love their Angel Tree program. I love the fact that they really focus on at the holidays how to make sure that children are not without. And also they do a lot with addiction and making sure that people have a safe place to go if they are recovering from addiction because that's been stigmatized a lot in society. So they definitely do so much good work with the homeless and so much good work with trying to make sure that they create spaces that are safe. And sometimes people don't really have insurance or don't really have the ability to go out there and get some of those services. So they provide really a safe haven. I love their mission and everything that they do. I'm like a real big fan actually. I was so happy to see that you are affiliated with you about them. Yeah.  I would have to say Team Zoom just because everybody is using it. Like I use Google but not as much. I use Google for other stuff like Drive and for email and for YouTube but I definitely would have to say Zoom would be my go-to for video. Sure. What book are you reading? Right now, jeez. What am I reading? I think the last thing I was reading was The Souls of Black Folk. I'm reading that again by W.E.B. Du Bois. A lot of people have been talking about race and I'm starting to get into e-brom candy, how to be an anti-racist, but I feel as though W.E.B. Du Bois is a foundation of everything when it comes to anti-racism, like the whole idea of double consciousness, the whole idea of how black people feel in America and how they are perceived in America. So I'm actually rereading The Souls of Black Folk right now. One of my favorite books is, I forget your name now, it'll come back to me. Why I'm no longer talking to white people about race? Totally, I believe my mind is really, really powerful but I'll send you the link. Yes, please do. What's on your desk today? What's your current project? Wow. Right now on my project, on my desk is I'm just looking at different projects for the podcast. So different ways that we can kind of expand our reach. My biggest project that I'm working on for our podcast is working on the YouTube channel. So looking at ways that I can increase our diversity as far as talking to black leaders in the community and how to be more responsive with just not educating about higher education, but about topics surrounding race, anti-racism, social justice and things of that nature as well. Right, well, I've got plenty of voices I can signposted to here in the UK if you need to take- Absolutely. Black voices. And now I'm going to assume you're doing the best job in the world already, but what would be your off-the-wall career that you dreamed of but never did? Oh my gosh, what's an off-the-wall? I don't know, I don't think anything is off-the-wall but if there was something that I probably would have wanted to do- I don't know if I'm going to be crazy or a that deep sea doctor or a tea. I probably would want to be like an actress or something.  If I really would have done it again, I probably would have went to school for drama or something because I'm just like a drama queen anyway and I love to like hammer it up for the camera. So probably actress- One lockdown ends. Where do you want to be your next vacation? My next vacation, I probably want to go to the Caribbean. I'm like really aching to take my husband and go to Jamaica and MC like my family's like origin and where we are from. So yeah, probably Jamaica. Great. Biggest career achievement today?  Top voices, fantastic. Who can I interview next and why? Oh wow. Who can you interview? I mean, I think anybody on top voices would be good. Doug Liederman. I'm trying to get through the top 10 list. Yeah. I've been picking earlier today. So it's yourself. Yeah, absolutely. Doug Liederman was really interesting. We had him on the podcast early like in March or so. The founder of Inside Hair Education. He left from Chronicle Education and went and founded Inside Hair Education. So he would be a good pick, I think. Right. Well, I work my way through it. Yeah, for sure. We can listen to find out more about you, your links, your podcasts, working together. Yeah. We can go to edupexperience.com. That's where they can find my podcast. I also have a YouTube channel where I am the host of that particular venue where we talk about platform and we talk about race and issues surrounding the black community. So they can hit me up on either one of those. We have an Instagram. Obviously, they can also just look for me, search for my name on LinkedIn. Your Instagram as well. That's right. Yeah, definitely. I love social media. I love connecting. I love meeting new people. I'm glad I got a chance to meet you. This is all about relationships and connecting. Like you said, it's the keyword, the buzzword right now. So yeah. My final question, Liz, is what would you hope to be your legacy? If I can have a legacy, I think that it has become the idea. It has always been educating and making sure that I provide a better way for it for my students, but also in terms of race in America, helping to raise my voice to help people to understand how we need to come together to make this country a better place. And a lot of that has to do with inequity and how we can adjust and make changes and grow and evolve from where we are and be better. That's really the bottom line. How can we be better? How can we move forward? How can we make sure America as a country is fair for everybody? And I would want that to be my legacy. That would be a great thing to achieve. Elizabeth Lyber, thank you very much. It's been great to connect and start our relationship through LinkedIn Voices and connecting with you. We work quite quick, I think, to be fair. Earlier a week or so ago, we connected. So I hope it's the beginning of something that we can connect and share content regularly. I hope so. Elizabeth, thank you very much for your time. Keep up the good work. To chat on your podcast and listen to more of the content over there. Absolutely. And it's awesome to come and visit you in Fort Lauderdale. Come on down. You can come. The open invitation is there for you. Brilliant. All right, well, let's go to that bar. Yeah, for sure, right? Thanks, Elizabeth. Thank you. Take care.


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Feels a little heavier, so I'm hoping for a book would here for someone no book would but a thickie in there for sure That's something fun coming up for someone good a lot First up Daniel Jones Danny Dimes 15 out of 35 Going to the Giants when you go to Jerry in the Duke blue Thicky here Nice CJ shroud Let's see what that is.  That's Augusta nacho nice one though CJ shroud Seven out of 42 Israel Abney conda 15 out of 49 on the introductions auto fifth rounder running back to the Jets One for Ed Pete the Jets Doreen Thompson Robinson DTR 34 out of 49. I think he got drafted I'm gonna go. I think it's a north tier Cleveland Cincinnati, maybe Cleveland fifth rounder to the Browns We've been going to Ed Pete Max Duggan two out of 25 nice three-color patch and work yada there a couple QB's in this one One more nice one Max Duggan seventh rounder to the Chargers It's gonna go to mark each do a Chargers last card in this third box Nice arch manning 46 out of 99 on the auto signature moves Arch Manning and for the first time it comes in to play this break Walter with the no NFL team That's Texas Arch Manning right there Nice one though Walter congrats this Arch Manning had in your way number 16 Here's box for nice box there. We did grab one more QB box for One more Garrett Wilson 71 out of 75 one more for the Jets one more for Ed Offensive rookie of the year Got a jumbo patch Joey Porter, Jr. 11 out of 99 for my Pittsburgh Steelers gonna go to David second-rounder of course his father long-time NFL That patch here another Christian Gonzalez 86 out of 99 little two-color there Orgas gotta have the best patches in college right just so many crazy designs patterns on the unis Nice one one more for Zach and the Patriots Another premium patch and a rookie auto got to be up there right though Nice one for New England Next up So it should move Sean Tucker five out of ten From Syracuse I'd have been undrafted. Let's check Sean Tucker will switch screens real quick American running bag for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers so Tampa on the board It's gonna go to Matt Smith two-color patch and rookie on another QB Clayton tuned 37 out of 65 Fifth-rounder to Arizona the Cardinals gonna go to Chad Chad. Oh, but you tuned last card from this box Nice Zay flowers. We are BC 47 out of 99 Nice name plate patch and rookie auto Gonna go to Baltimore and The Ravens David B grabs one more This kid's gonna be a problem for my Steelers for a long time. I think Nice it and the fifth and final box. Thanks y'all up to missile off load one more case You do a randomizer. Hopefully we get a booklet here too. Usually one per case. Yeah 86 out of 99 say corn Barkley for the Giants. It's gonna go to Jerry next up Max Duggan 27 out of 99 a little bit of purple in there Horned frogs one more Duggan No, uh, no gym. That's right. I'm not tripping. Yes one more for the Chargers One more for Mark. I think my hair is a little too short for Fabio I'm just can next up signature moves Parker Washington Four out of ten Nice signature I'm a sucker for a kid that signs with his number two Doesn't I'll change after this. I don't even know this should be Happy Monday Parker Washington six round wide receiver for the Jacksonville Jaguars gonna go to chat. Oh It's not Saturday where you live Weird man It's up Tank Dell 41 out of 49 signature moves Some great names in this year's job. Deuce Washington. Deuce Von Tank Dell Tank Dell third rounder I don't know. That's tank Bigsby Or somebody there are two guys in this rookie class named tank Tank Dell another undrafted is a wide receiver will switch screens Wide receiver for the Houston Texans Right down there. So Houston Back on the board one more for Pat's Got a redemption right after this as well And that's where the box felt a little light Tank Dell for Houston. We'll save that one for last last card Gonna be Jaylin Hyatt nice one for the Giants 18 out of 49 sig moves Jaylin Hyatt Gonna go one more for chair Come to flat circle the social contract, you know Jaylin Hyatt for the Giants And our last card of redemption. Good luck y'all Team slogan signatures die cuts. I promise that's what it says card number 15 Focusing on all this stuff Joey Porter jr. Nice double dippin for the Steelers another Joey Porter jr. RPA this time One more for David. All right, there we go. Nice one there One matter of business to attend to though Let's close this out Triple auto Too sad one happy camper Bijan Robinson Jamir Gibbs Zach Evans So let's switch screens real quick Get rid of this one So one more time Bijan Atalana Jamir just a few picks later At 12 for Detroit And Zach Evans a little bit lower six rounder for the Rams So our fresh dice our fresh list ATL Detroit L. A. R. All right y'all So lana in the r&b. So that'll be numbered to 8 Which would go to james p The lions going to david b the rams going to walter. All right y'all throw the dice and randomize for the triple auto Five and six 11 times of course 11 times. Good luck one two three four five six seven eight nine 10 and 11 name on top The los angeles rams. Wow the rams on the triple auto Well, that's your big winner right there rams congrats And that's it. That's our break. I'll have one more case uploaded onto the server now I think it's our last case at the moment as well. So Grab your teams while you still can. Thanks again y'all jasmiescasebreaks.com. Bye. Bye


Hello, beautiful souls. Welcome to this May 2023 Energy Update video. My name is Ona Christie. I'm a visionary artist and energy worker. And in this video, I'm going to be sharing insights into the energies of May 2023, including this sole oracle painting that I did around those energies, and a beautiful message that came through to assist us in this time. We'll also be looking at some of the astrology of May 2023. Okay, so let's start with the image here. When I was tuning into the energies of May, often I will get the message right away, right? In the words, this time it just, nothing was coming. So I asked for an image and they gave me this, as you can see in this funny little Buddha face. So it was only when I had the image that the message started to come through. And I'm going to read that to you in a little bit, but I want to tell a little bit about the process of this, because this is a process that you can use to, whether you're using painting or any other other of the arts, because the process of creative work is so linked to, it's kind of pretty much the same thing as your intuition. All right, so from that sketch, I really felt like I wanted to do a full painting, because when that happens, then more information comes through. And so I started painting the Buddha, and as I was painting, more images started coming forward. I saw up here, I saw a peacock really, really kind of, I felt that energy of peacock, right? And so that's why we had the peacock feathers way up at the top. And there, you can see them much better in person, they're a little subtle here in the screen. And then we've got the fish that showed up as well. And that's the fun thing about this is sort of like, sort of like an Oracle card, or the reading comes through the intuition, higher self, of course, knows what all this stuff means. You know, I don't always. So once the image started coming through, I was like, oh my gosh, looking up all these things, I realized, well, it's a white Buddha, right? And that has a meaning, so does the fish in Buddhist symbolism. So I have to admit, I am not very, I'd never really learned a whole lot about Buddhism. So it was really interesting for me to learn some of this stuff. Okay. So this is what I learned about the symbolism of this painting, the color white in Buddhism. And if you are a Buddhist, or if you have better insight into this, I'd love if you'd leave a comment, because I'm not trying to be, I'm not trying to be the expert here. I'm very much learning this stuff through the art and the intuitive work. Okay. But what I was able to pick up when I did research is that the white in Buddhist symbolism, symbolizes purity, knowledge, longevity, and emancipation of freedom. Okay. So white is associated with the supreme or primordial Buddha called Varakana, who is regarded by some Buddhists as the universal Buddha from which all the Buddhas originates and some see him as the personification of wisdom. Okay. And his element is water. So when I first saw the sketch, you can see this kind of horizon. And I saw this as being water. And then they're right at his forehead or third eye. There's the sun image that showed up, but a lot of water that came through with this Buddha. And so there's like no surprise that the fish would be showing up in the water. And here's what I learned about fish. Again, this is the Buddhist perspective or Buddhist symbolism here, that they symbolize again, freedom, abundance, good fortune, but especially fearlessness. And the idea is that if you are following your Dharma, right? Or your higher self, you don't need to fear drowning in an ocean of suffering. And I think that's a super important point right now, right? Because for many of us, the journey of awakening often is sparked by suffering. And that's true. It has always been true of many people, but the fish symbolizes a different way of going about it. And it's through learning and through spiritual instruction. It's what I'm getting, is that when you receive the spiritual instruction and start to follow your true soul path, but with the wisdom that comes in through spiritual teachings, that it frees you from the need to go through lots of sufferings, right? So basically we've got the choice of reinventing the wheel very painfully or following the spiritual instruction that comes through the wisdom traditions. And it's important to note that a lot of the wisdom traditions, some of them have been compromised. So the more we can learn about multiple traditions or if you choose to follow just one, which can be a really amazing thing to do, that's really probably the best thing to do, like choose one that really calls to you, but then also open yourself to learning other traditions and the teachings here and there because you're going to find in the intersection of those, you're going to start to find the truth. So you're observing nature because nature will also reflect the truth back to you. Okay, the symbol of the peacock, again, Buddhist symbolism, it represents purity, very similar to the white Buddha, right? So again, not surprising that the peacock would be showing up. So why do they symbolize purity?  So they symbolize how a mind that has been purified through spiritual teachings can transmute toxic energy into health and beauty, right? So a lot of this is about this process of enlightenment and going through the dark and transmuting it and realizing truth. And so one last symbol is this beautiful symbol here and I've never actually seen it before, but when the painting was almost done and there was this kind of open space there and I just felt like it needed something.  But in speaking with dialoguing with the painting, it was like, no, it's not, it doesn't need to be a hand Buddha. It just was calling for a symbol, right? So I went and it was like, okay, well this is, it struck me as a Thai Buddha or one from Southeast Asia because of the shape of the head. And so I was looking at Thai Buddhist symbols and this one just popped up right away and I looked at it as like, that's it, it's gorgeous. So then I started reading about what it meant and it really fits. It's this symbol showing the spiritual journey towards enlightenment. And so what my understanding of it is this, it starts here with a spiral and to me it looks like, okay, well, this is like before you start to really awaken, your life kind of goes around and around circles and it could be like multiple lifetimes. And then once you reach a certain point of awakening, you kind of get buffeted back and forth, right? You go into that fourth dimensional space and it's like, whoa. And then at some point, once you've had enough of that, things just start to straighten out. You start really trading the street and narrow path. And it's like, you start to learn, but you find your truth and that's where it straightens out and then it'll have some of them have a lotus up here or docks and it'll be sort of like, I think it represents kind of attaining your goals or attaining what you're seeking. Let me give you the message first and then we'll look at the astrology. Okay, so when I come in, the message here, I'll read it to you word for word. Okay, his message is, in the innermost sanctum is a piece that you may retreat to at any time. Indeed, one may dwell in this place simultaneously with walking in the world. There is no need to separate oneself from day to day existence. Rather, one can make of one's life a meditation. Even as you go about your day, your inner contemplation may take precedence in your heart. Seek the stillness within your sense of connection need not be confined to the meditation chamber alone. Allow your inner awareness to always be in meditation in this way you yourself become a portal for transcendence. In the world. Okay, so basically he's talking about, you can work towards a state where, where in this meditative state, even when we're in the world and I feel like that's, that's what we're all working towards, right, is bringing spirit down into the world. Okay, so, and by the way, I kind of show this to my dad and read that and he's been really steeped in Christian mysticism and he's like, oh, he says that's St. Paul's first letter to the Thessalonians. He said chapter five versus 16 to 18. He said there were especially three instructions that Paul gives in no matter what you think of Paul. I think these are beautiful. It's live joyfully, right? Without ceasing and be always grateful. And what my dad said, and he just went through this heart attack where he had this experience where he wasn't a lot of pain and he was able to calm 911. And so he was able to kind of be the observer and watch these emergency medical technicians working on him. But he said he was in this state of almost bliss, right? Working with these kind of commandments, right? To live joyfully, pray without ceasing, be always grateful. And he said that after a while it sinks in and he was able to go through this experience in a really transcendent way. So I really wanted to share that because I feel like, you know, sometimes we go into this, you know, we do our spiritual practice and it's not always easy. It's hard work, but it does sink into one's being. It permeates one's soul after a while, after we keep working on ourselves. So, all right. So let's look at the astrology of May. And you'll see where some of the parallels are, too, when the message came through. Okay. May is a month of retrogrades. We were already in mercury retrograde. Mercury will remain in retrograde through mid-May and then Pluto just entered Aquarius on 323, 223, a really significant date. And Pluto in Aquarius is going to go retrograde on May 1st. Okay. So that will kind of strengthen some of these plutonium energies. Pluto is the Lord of the underworld and rules death, rebirth and transformation. Interestingly, the last time it moved into Aquarius was in the late 18th century, which was a period of intense revolution on multiple levels. So it's going into retrograde now in Aquarius and it's going to stay in retrograde until October. In June, it's going to go into Capricorns. It's going to kind of go back and then finding them back into Aquarius, going direct in October, but moving into Aquarius on January 22nd of next year, 2024. All right. So I'll touch back on what I think that means. But just with these retrogrades, it feels like the first couple of weeks in May may be really perfect for deep introspection. And so it's going to bring up big opportunity to do shadow work and especially because we've got another eclipse coming up on May 5th. And if you watched my last video on the solar eclipse in April, that also was an invitation for deep shadow work, right? So we've got Pluto. We've got Mercury in retrograde, which often is an invitation to just kind of go within and then we've got this eclipse season that we're in. I feel like Pluto going into retrograde right now, it's a little bit more in the calm month of Taurus. It's inviting us to take some of the energies of April even deeper and bring them into contemplation, really sit with whatever those energies are there in a really compassionate way. Okay. So this May 5th lunar eclipse in Scorpio. It's Scorpio full moon, right? It's also connected with death and with exploring what lies underneath, right? Including the human subconscious. And that's connected with this solar eclipse that just happened. It's a pair with it. And it's interesting that this lunar eclipse is happening on May 5th, which is this numerological number of change and transformation. So one thing that keeps coming up for me here is, I guess the feeling that I'm getting about this month of May is that it is kind of a last chance preparation for us to really go within right now and prepare us for this next big cycle, getting a lot of energy around 2024. And I'm seeing this right now, this month, especially the first two weeks as a time when we're being energetically prepared for the events of the next couple of years, 2024 and beyond. So, yeah, it's one thing that is really coming up for me really strongly as we move further into these energies. Every time I turn around, it seems like somebody is talking about being honest with oneself, right? So the deep, deep practice of personal honesty, being true to your own self of really looking within and asking for honesty on all levels, coming up really strong right now. And part of that is being as objective with yourself as possible. And for instance, I'm looking at my desk right now and it's truthfully, it's kind of cluttered, right? And I know that you I'm sure are aware that every object has its own energy, right? I've got one of my decks sitting here, I've got crystals, just all sorts of things. Some, you know, electronic gadgets. And everything, one of these has energy and when it's all kind of jumbled together, what it's doing is it's kind of throwing my energy off, right? And I have to look at this and just be honest with myself. It's like, okay, well, you know, if I'm feeling a little bit more anxious, that that's part of why. So it's this little honestly of looking at, okay, if it's your surroundings or your behavior or you're dealing with the world. I'm looking at this. I'm like, I have some cleaning up to do probably on more than one level, but the physical environment is showing me, right? So getting real and getting humble with ourselves to recognize that, yeah, there's work to do, but doing it in a way that's compassionate where we're not beating up on ourselves, but using that awareness, right? To better ourselves or to further ourselves along on the path that we're on, okay? That's eating the venom, right? That's calling in that peacock energy, that purification in a way that's constructive and, you know, turning that venom into something positive. So Buddha or any of the ascended masters that you connect with can help us to do that work with compassion for ourselves and for others as well. And that's the fish, right? Moving into the fearlessness, right? Where we can look at deep into the shadows, deep into the darkness and do so with compassion so that we can correct whatever needs to be corrected without falling off into anxiety or fear or shame or guilt or whatever it is, okay? So that is what leads to spiritual emancipation and freedom, and that is one potential that I think is really there for some of you listening to this, you're conquering fear and you're ready to really move into your truth, move into your Dharma in a big way, right? Living your truth. You may find yourself, especially through practices like this, if you're able to go within a little bit more this month, may start to find yourself feeling really blissful and joyful regardless of what's going on in the world around you, right? Because you're forging that connection with source, you're starting to merge with the inner Christ, the inner Buddha, the Atman, the energies of this month are going to really support this process if you work with them. So beautiful month, okay? Others, or maybe you may experience this too, you may feel deep emotions coming up that may not feel that good. But this is, you know, the energies right now are really encouraging to bring those emotions up, to let them truthfully acknowledge them for what they are, right? So these emotions, rather than pushing them down or denying them or calling them something else, just call them out. And, you know, sometimes we need to acknowledge and see what's going on, need to allow the emotions to flow, need to acknowledge the grief or the pain or the suffering or whatever it is, and check in with them. Check in if you feel triggered, right? There's a lot of triggering things right now. Check in. And maybe somebody said something that's or something is going on in the social media, on the news, whatever it is, pay attention to how it feels, right? And especially if you pay attention to if you have emotional, emotionally charged reactions that come out as beliefs or what you are feeling like or truths that may be spoken. If you're finding yourself speaking in a very reactive way, even if it feels like truth for you, really look at it, okay? Look at it, feel the energy of it because anything can be boiled down to, is it a vibration of fear around that emotion or is it a vibration of love? And if you're kind of triggered into speaking something that may feel like truth in the moment, take a good look, step back, breathe, bring it into meditation and feel, is it really truth or is there this huge vibration of fear or anxiety or shame or something around it that's momentary shame can be good because you can look at something like McLaren desk or maybe some behavior that really is kind of shameful and when we feel that momentary shame, it's a trigger for us to be like, oh, I need to look at that. But when we're steeped in it, right? When we spend a lot of time or when it's just like not a sticky, that stickiness and doesn't want to let go or where we start to have beliefs that are really based in that shame that feels bad, right? It's a vibration of something that's not just in the moment, but where we've identified with it, that's what you want to watch out for, fear especially, okay? Or is it a vibration that's based on love, right? So that momentary shame is actually based on love, right? We can say, you know, I'm feeling shame because I really, I want better for myself. I want to bring myself out of that behavior. I can do better. I have higher standards for myself. I love myself enough to call myself out, okay?   Really different, right? So just something to be really aware of. Assistant getting this message out.  I would love to hear your comments, especially if you have thoughts about these symbolisms or deeper insights. That's great. I'm putting this white Buddha on my website for sale. This is the original. There's always one person that a painting is meant for. So if you're feeling that to you, check it out. I also have prints for sale as well. I'll be writing all this up in a blog probably next week. So if you're more of a reader, just subscribe and watch for my post about that. And remember, you were born to be free.


So I get started right so today we're going to be talking about building a restful API with Scala Z. So how many of you know what Scala Z is one. All right, so so I'm Yashun Kumar platform engineer make them systems.  We are a cloud startup from Chennai and so we are like such a past platform where you could launch applications. Services and you bind them together something like Heroku, but we also do the monitor them and you have countries integration all this stuff right. So the agenda is pretty simple. So we will look into Scala Z library quick intro and Scala Z library and then like what it is and how to use it and then rest API the gateway architecture of the API server. Okay, so this API server. So say R is a cloud platform. So we have an API and API server that takes that does the full heavy lifting there. Okay, so it's a loosely coupled architecture. So we have this API which does pretty much everything from the rails on top. We have this API and it's connected to a message broker and then a pass engine and stuff. So this does pretty much all the work. So we got so that is written with Scala play and we've used Scala Z library to work with. And yeah, so I'll also show you some real time use case Scala Z like basically the code of how we wrote it and stuff. So why functional? Okay. So why functional? Right. So we know software is getting complex as in as gets really complex. You know, you want the software to be well structured. Right. So and then well, we all know that immutability. So we all know that there are no assignment statements in when you're writing functional code. Right. So you don't. So it's immutable. Right. And fine side effects. So we all know functional programming is all about not having any side effects. So what do you mean by side effects? So say, say there's a function. Okay. It takes in a type A. It gives a result B. That's it. Right. So it doesn't do anything else. It's not straight straightforward. It takes a type A type B. That's it. So in. So what happens is that you won't have any side effects. Okay. And there are no order of execution. So it's irrelevant. I mean, you could do which order you want. So basically that particular function is going to do one thing. Right. That's it. It's pretty elementary stuff.  Right. Something that has no.


So now let me move to Professor Roberto Buriani who is a professor at the University of Milano at the San Rafael University. You are not a psychiatrist but nevertheless you are very much interested in these issues we are talking about this afternoon. And I think if you have attended all the sessions this morning and I am sure that you have recognized some of your favorite topics in the discussion this morning. So in a way what you are going to say is also a way to wrap up some of the issues that have been raised all the day long. The floor is yours. First of all I would like to thank Thierry de Bonbrial for inviting me to such an exciting meeting and to have the chance to share my idea and my point of views with all the experts that are present. We are in an unprecedented moment where really all disciplines are converging and are crossing each other to face these pandemics, this emergency and to face also all the consequences that from this pandemic can come in many, many different fields. I am a medical doctor and a virologist so I should be formally involved in mental health and addictions but I had the chance in the last years to fight in Italy misinformation about vaccination. This gave me a good hint and a good experience on how to deal with fake news also in the moment that this pandemic started last January. First of all I am afraid that we are facing two kind of pandemics. One is a virus which is spreading very easily and very fast. The other one, the other pandemic is a make of false information and I think that this can be very dangerous. Why? Because first of all false information can be very attractive. People want to know that everything is fine, that everything is going well, that everything is not dangerous. And we know this since the very old time, since the work of Julius Caesar who wrote that people are very likely to believe what they want. And what people want is basically say that masks are not necessary, that the virus is not dangerous, it doesn't even exist. And unfortunately this kind of false information are providing then the ground for very dangerous behavior of the single person. And we have to remember that to face a pandemic is something that we have to do as single person and one everybody is really equal in front of the virus and everybody can be important for the spread or for the containment of the virus. The second thing which was very bad is at a certain point was diffused also by very important politicians, the idea that some drugs were effective without any proof indicating that. And this was once again dangerous, people were on one hand trying to buy these drugs, subtracting them from people who are needing them for real. And also generating sort of a frenzy like having the idea which was pushed at least in my country also by some politicians, pushing the idea that an effective treatment is withdrawn from the population for some reason, for some, you know, plot, international plot of something extremely powerful. And then I think that most dangerous issues can be that, you know, fake news can can really orient the public opinions in a very dangerous way. When you're telling your citizens that the virus is a Chinese virus, or that the virus, even the virus was on purpose constructed and fabricated and you know, synthesized in a Chinese laboratory and then spread voluntarily. You really put in the ground for people hating other people and this is extremely dangerous. We experienced in the past how bad this can be. And I think that this can really be a huge problem for, you know, scientific collaboration from the international point of view which is absolutely needed to advance quickly and speed it with the science, which is the only thing who can save us in a situation like this. Another huge problem that which is depending on the spread of this failed news is that erosion of trust. Trust on WHO, which is somebody pictures as political entities, which is not. Trust on institution like, you know, governments, Minister of Health, and also trust in doctors because, you know, in Italy we had people saying that, you know, everything was invented, everything was made up and that doctors were just killing people in the hospitals for, you know, creating this emergence, which is really incredible. And this is very, very dangerous because you have to rely on trust. We have to trust FDA for authorization of a new vaccine for, you know, authorization of new drugs or EMA in Europe. And I think that, you know, trying to push politically these very reputable institutions as happened, for example, in the US, for sure, with President Trump pushing for a prompt, you know, green light on some treatments or even the vaccine. Well, this is very bad because if people is losing trust, then it's very difficult to regain it. Well, these are the problems, but I think it's very important also to point out a few solutions. First of all, we need clear, crystal clear scientific data about safety and efficiency, but this is not enough. My experience on vaccines showed clearly that good data and clear scientific data are not enough. We are not anymore in the times where you really follow what the doctor was used to say without any discussion. Now people are trying to get informed themselves through the net, through the social media, and this information is very often incorrect. I mean, there is one example that really is clear for demonstrating how insufficients are the very good data, very good scientific data. We have one vaccine, which is against the human papillomavirus. This vaccine is actually protecting from cancer, which is not, let's say, a negligible clinical entity. Well, this vaccine is safe, this vaccine is extremely effective, it's wipe enough cancer where it's used widely like in Australia, and actually, at least in Italy, it's completely free. Well, in my country, almost 40% of the parents are refusing, actively refusing this vaccine for their children, and in Holland, the percentage goes close to 50%, and in Germany it's more than 50%, and in France it's even higher. People are refusing a vaccine, which is protecting from cancer, which is safe and which is effective. Well, it's clear that data are not enough. We have to realize that times are changing, and we have to go out of our universities and we have to speak to people. And to talk to people is very different than talking to patients that are coming to our offices, trusting us, or to our students that are in our universities because they want to learn, or to colleagues that are basically speaking our own language and they understand the process of, you know, scientific debate, of scientific confrontation and so on. We are basically talking to people that are not interested in what we talk and they are not very confident in what we say, so we need to be extremely convincing. Another problem is deriving from the fact that many doctors, scientists are talking to public audience with opposing views, which is absolutely normal, because in the initial phase of a pandemic, caused by a new virus that we never saw before January 2020, it's normal that, you know, the knowledge, the precise knowledge is not immense and there is room for scientific opinion. But this is very bad for the general public, because if this discussion, if this scientific discussion happens not in scientific conferences, you know, inside the universities or in scientific journals, if this scientific discussion, which is absolutely legitimate, happens in TV show in front of the public audience, this is going to generate a lot of confusion. And here we end the last point that I want to take to your attention. There is the need of a strong institutional voice. The reason why all these, you know, single voices often contract victory are, you know, heard is because there is a space, there is an empty space, which is left by the institutions. I think that in this moment we realize how important is to have an institution which is trusted, which is convincing, not only providing scientific data, which are correct, but also they need to have the skill to present them in a way that will convince people hearing them. I mean, in this case, the form becomes really the substance. So it's very important the way you talk to people, not only what you tell to people, which is obviously to be true and the correct scientific information. So I think that what we can learn from this very bad experience and what will be useful also in the next month when we hopefully will have a vaccine that could end all this, you know, terrible story of the pandemic that, you know, really impacted very badly on everybody's life and on the economy and all the aspects that we can imagine. Well, we need to be able to give people something to believe in, not only good data, not only, you know, optimistic, you know, let's say provisions, but really we need to convince them that they can trust authorities. They can trust FDA when it will approve the vaccine. They have to trust the government when the government is telling them stay home. The government has to be trusted also when it says you can go to school. And so I think that what we can learn from this terrible experience is that we have to build this trust in, let's say, peace time because it is something that will be very useful during the war. And for sure, from the biological point of view, I'm sure that in the future, I don't know when, but in the future we will need to face some other pandemics. I hope we will be ready with diagnostic tools, we will be ready with vaccines, we will be ready to with, you know, isolation and, you know, quarantine and personal equipment for protection, but we'll need to be ready also from the cultural point of view. And we'll need to be able, we'll need to be able to face with the, you know, worried people, with the scared people, with the very authority and trusted voice from the institutions. Thank you very much for the chance I had to speak to this conference and I look forward to hear the other panelists. Thank you very much Roberto. We are at the intersection of a number of problems, you know, somatic and mental, but also political and global governance in the following sense, which is that you show that fake news trust, but that you would also add manipulations of all kinds, make credible global governance extraordinarily difficult. And one of the issues I think related to this is the following one, you know, global, I take a more global approach here. You know, global governance has to do with coordination of policies among a number of states, of states, but, you know, states in the international system today are heterogeneous. You have democracies, you have orthocratic systems, you have authoritarian system, dictatorship sometimes. And to the problems you mentioned, you can add the classical issue of manipulation from governments, this time from governments, you know, for instance, during the, so far, since the beginning of this COVID-19 pandemic, China has been accused, particularly by former president, President Trump, because he is still president of the United States, of having manipulated data, the facts of maybe being that the origin of the whole crisis, directly or indirectly. And it is clear that some states use these kind of issues to manipulate the global scene. So here we have manipulation at various levels. You have manipulation, the kind of manipulation that comes in a natural way in social networks and others, and of course undermine credibility entirely. But you also have classical disinformation and manipulation from governments. And therefore that raises the whole issue, the whole question, because particularly sensitive in a time of pandemic, as we are living today, of credibility of global governance altogether, you know, how, what it is, what would be required, what would be the prerequisites for global governance that not the global public opinion that does not exist, but public opinions with an S could accept because they would trust those who are in charge of policy decisions. So that's a huge issue, which is related to this last session, as you clearly showed us in your interventions. But we come back to this when concluding in the final debate that will follow the presentations. And now I will give the floor to Jean-Pierre La Blanchie, who is a very well known psychiatrist in Paris.


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