stead of having to go through discord Get to you know Play games hands-on impressions of games like the like it's sad That if breath of the wild 2 is coming out this holiday instead of next holiday that I don't get to play it in person Right, I would have got to play it in person this year. Damn it. Oh, right I don't know if they would do it, but at past the 3s nintendo always had a Like some weird deal with best buy to where you could go. Yeah play some of the remote games at best Yeah, they've been they were doing that lately Yeah, not all of them just select. I could see them maybe doing that, but then again, I don't know Yeah, that's why I don't think yeah They might they might start too risky of a pr move to do that this year Um, they they couldn't have like a limited like here's a demo that you can download, but it only Yeah, I I think you know like they have a metopia demo right now I I think nintendo is going to lean more towards hey, we're going to really focus hard on getting game demos out this year that you could play at home To kind of make up for the fact we can't do those public things. We can't do e3 So while like we typically would never give you a zelda demo We'll give you a zelda demo and your prog it'll be the opening area and your progress will carry over to the game or something Yeah Yeah, like the age of calamity. They did something like that age of calamity And I think that's kind of the I think nintendo foresaw that because that happened last year or it's like hey You know at least for the next year or two Let's give people demos at home that carry over metopia stuff carries over like so It's kind of like I think nintendo's kind of getting that flow where no You might not necessarily get a bunch of demos to play journey three. Okay. Don't expect that but But you very well might get you know Demo's trickling out throughout the year before games come out that you'll be able to try I don't know if they're going to give you a demo for zelda. That would be very unusual because they've never done that But we are also in we're in uncharted territory. So With a zelda game at least anyways, so thoughts guys on this Supposed plan for nintendo's virtual console. Yeah future. What are your thoughts on it? Because this fundamental change over everything anything they've ever done. This is almost like giving everyone what we asked for originally But now giving it to us after we got used to just paying for a switch online Go for it jessie Yeah, I was just going to say really quick I I think it's an amazing idea if they do it and especially if they do it's separate from The online service for the people that just don't care about playing online But they would care about playing the games from their childhood without having to deal with like the online service and stuff So I think that would be Uh, really really great for them And especially if they go back to some of them and add in weird features like they updated some of the games on The online service to add like online multiplayer or something Yeah, like Like having double dash like A game game with online like that would be insane and if they put it on there for like 20 or however much It would sell almost as much as like a normal traditional game would and it would just be A quick online update for an emulated game basically Nice, maybe it's a bit more complicated But it it's just taking the same idea they had with the NES and super nintendo games and then applying it to n64 Or gamecube games that that's what I would love to see from it But the idea in general from what Nate says is really good I'm looking forward to it if they do do it and hopefully there might be uh If there's not time for it at a three or something then maybe some event after e3 during the summer uh, you know Super excited if it actually, you know comes out the way that it kind of sounds like it's gonna come out But to a certain extent until I see it come out the way, you know, we hope when it's coming out It's nintendo. So I'm always kind of waiting for the butt to drop and uh you know, oh, isn't it that's kind of like with uh Mario golf super rush like it looks great. Where's the butt? Where's the butt? Yeah And there was a boat with super mario party. It looked great. Right mario tennis ace is fantastic We played already three. Oh my god. This is amazing.  Yeah tune in live Yeah, tune in live for 2019. That's impressive if they can do that. I know, right? Um, but uh, you know until it actually comes to fruition and we see What it is for what it is There's always that part of me and I hate to be cynical, but at the same point in time. That's kind of who I am um it I'm waiting for the butt And what a nice but it will be Yeah I have a feeling that you know, is it going to be Again, kind of I know they're switching to new server tech So is this server tech going to be? you know Better than what you know, they're they're and it works really well in my eyes um So, you know, but they got to get to that point They'll where they're they're fully towards that though before I think they can release this because On their old server tech, I don't know if they can handle the amount of Hit in that server Who says they even use the same? I mean, I have a feeling they would just team up with google or microsoft And that very well be it could be possible to provide any sort well It's not a streaming service though, right? It right. It's a subscription server You still download like an app like we have now to access them all true. They're still technically all downloaded on your system true But I don't yeah, I don't know It's been a lot of talk about that weird partnership with microsoft and everyone's partnering into getting Ideas or tech from them to help out on the service Get right.  It's like God dang it You're literally putting switch at the same level as your system, which means there's clearly a It's gotta be I don't know what it could be besides x cloud I'm sorry the only way it could be on the same level is x cloud and then your gamecast will work on x Unless it's not like an x cloud. It's like an attend cloud where Nintendo It's not necessarily xbox games. It's it's a similar service, but it's straight nintendo It's not it or Or it's just it's just nintendo cloud And it's really just x cloud re-skinned right nintendo offers their games and you can optionally subscribe to gamepass and get microsoft as well Microsoft doesn't care. They want their games on everything. Why would nintendo say no? We don't want your games on our system Yeah, I I forgot his name, but who's the the president of not xbox, but xbox live Oh phil spencer, right? Well phil spencer is he runs all of xbox Okay When daniel and I were at e3 We were like 10 steps away from him While he was going on and on and on talking about how much he loved nintendo and Was it was a phil spencer? Yeah, yeah, everyone knows phil spencer at this point. He might not have been the head of xbox at that time Because he had a title So when he when people think he took over xbox, he still technically wasn't the top dog Not like he is now. Um He just took over for I think was dimatric who I mean had no idea what he was doing. That's just to be honest um So and then he didn't really get the power to do anything with xbox until about four years ago And what's happened since then studio acquisitions like crazy xcloud Gamepass all of this happened recently and it happened after phil spencer was given the power to do this and given Like like he's like he's literally only answers to the ceo of microsoft There's nobody else above him When it comes to xbox anything he wants to do he wants to buy something just goes to the ceo. It says hey What about 7.5 bill for zenimax and pathesda? Here's your blank check. Have a good day. All right, like They that's how much the ceo of microsoft believes in what phil spencer is doing because What what happened is the ceo apparently in a meeting admitted to phil spencer that nobody of microsoft understands gaming And it's like well, I mean your pitch to me is that you can take turn game pass in the netflix Okay, what do you need? netflix had because microsoft's acutely aware because they invested some money in netflix How many billions of dollars was sunk in the netflix until it just started turning a profit this right so microsoft's aware Yeah, it takes a lot of money to turn it into a profit, but once you get there The profits are astronomical So when phil spencer pitches that they're like, oh, yeah, that makes sense Why wouldn't gamers want to be able to get all these games cheaper and in the end we just make bank in 10 years Like we could afford to do it now microsoft They they shit out 7.5 million. I mean they just had their financial report and they had like 15 billion net profit last quarter Okay, that already paid back what they just spent and then they made 7.5 bill on top of that so Like 7.5 billion is nothing to microsoft It feels weird saying that because oh nintendo only has nine billion in the bank microsoft's a different level microsoft's not just gaming though too So Yeah, there's also that let's just say Have you heard of a pc right? I mean i mean yeah linux is a thing, but let's just be real It's like 95 of the markets windows. Yeah Have you heard of a pc? Have you heard of business servers? Have you heard of outlook? I don't know why businesses still you want. I I guess I understand you don't want to have everything hosted by google and other companies But uh, I was reading a thing that it's like almost every laptop or Not tablet, but there are a bunch of tablets that do have a version of windows But every laptop or computer Usually has a version of windows on it when you first buy it. It's already pre-installed And microsoft gets so much money from the company that produces the computer For allowing uh, because they have to pay to have the microsoft windows on it So every single computer that you see on the shelf or at someone's place that has windows Even if something like that person's not directly buying a windows key from microsoft microsoft still gets so much money For every single computer and yeah, all these all these laptop makers. They all have deals of microsoft They pay microsoft to put windows on their platform the user is paying for it longer and it's built into the price of the pc But I mean you you just don't see it broken out They're paying for the people that don't want to buy a computer. It doesn't come with the os Yeah, they're paying they're paying for they just presume. Oh, yeah, of course. I get windows of them I wouldn't I it's just built into the laptop price. Um, yeah But that's money that people don't think about right really. No, yeah But microsoft feel making millions and millions every single day just from that And apparently they make apparently the most money they make From the company at least based on the financial report comes from their business servers People don't realize microsoft servers are the backbone of multi billion dollar corporations the world over windows server Like you guys all know about windows the pc windows 10 windows server edition Is running some of the world's biggest super computer Super server farms Like all these businesses like oh, why do they sell this all look? Yeah, maybe the outlook app is flawed But the reason they use outlook is because they integrate so well with windows server So they can control their own emails internally not on google servers or am no we have our own servers And we run windows and we pay windows and we pay them to serve us and my dad deals with a little bit of email migration And you know, I can't go too much into what he does, but it's all uh, it's just a thing out there windows Dominates the business world Yes, there are some companies that go all apple But they always run into issues because the problem with all apple is Everything they put in the cloud Clouds not always available 24 7 local server as long as you have electricity You have access So and eric knows to he deals he deals with some stuff too. So like windows. They make now Let's talk about some exciting stuff here And I'm gonna put game over jesse and the spire because I actually haven't had this conversation with you Um, it's about e3. I keep mentioning. I need to talk to you about e3 and then I just never talked to you about it So I'm gonna put you on the spot here in a moment No pressure. No pressure So We are doing a massive show journey three, right? We've talked about it on the channel a couple times, but you know, we have a big crowd here We've got 240 plus people. We were at 300 plus at one point. Um our e3 show guys Let me tell you we peaked today at 328 viewer 29 29 we peaked at 329 today If that is the entire crowd that showed up to our e3 stream Every single one of you would win something I have More to give away during e3 than the number of people showed up to watch this stream live I Want to make this clear to you guys We are putting on an event. This is not your standard. Oh, I'm just reacting to nintendo's thing I'm just reacting to microsoft. We're reacting to ubi soft even though we got a mute half the thing once like This isn't This isn't your standard channel just reacting to the stuff at e3, which we definitely are doing We're doing that We are doing that But it's built within a show that we will be putting on two hour pre shows long post shows Post post day podcasts. Maybe even daily if I could pull it off We'll see I gotta get past day one is he all exhausted Not gonna commit to a mean day There will be a podcast at least at the end of the four days or at least at the end of nintendo's day for sure Um because I already have hmk who is committed to being on the day that nintendo shows being on the end of day podcast for that um So yeah, so like we are putting on a show Okay We are not just gonna sit there and talk about video games.  I'm sorry 99 dollar nintendo switch e shop gift card. I don't know why nintendo cuts it at 99 Beat me in smash You're not going to But beat me one on one in smash I'm practicing by the way I am that you got anyone to see me play smash. Those are not very good I'm going to be good with at least one character By the time e3 comes around and I'm gonna This means if you beat me you want to probably if you beat eric that means i'm buying smash No, you don't have well if you want to practice. Yeah, um But uh, yeah, like it won't just be smashed, right? We'll have mario kart We'll have splatoon one-on-one. That's right one-on-one splatoon. Oh not so exciting. Oh until a hundred dollars is on the line You want to talk about exciting Yeah, that's the stuff we're doing during e3 eric and I will be facing off against each other in some games Loser gets punished. I gotta tell you one of the punishments Hot chip challenge. Yeah But there's gonna be other punishments as well Still fleshing all that out within reason Someone put out there. They want to lose her down losing one of the matches to put on a tinkle suit for an hour We'll see We'll see I did I did see it is actually reasonably priced.  Nice you exist Well, isn't that a and I have helium in the garage and I have a red balloon to tie onto So I'm just saying okay, it's possible that might be one of the punishments But there's gonna be entertaining moments.  We're giving away systems. We're giving away Pro controllers. We're giving away skyward sword special edition joycon that come out in july We're giving away skyward sword hg. We're giving away. Uh, why are you golf super rush? We're giving away a ton of stuff special edition zelda hoodies that are officially licensed and don't exist to purchase at retail anymore Brand new got two of them. We're giving away. I'm giving away an e3 zelda coin from 2016 I got one left to give away and then one for myself I'll never give away the one for myself, but I got one still sealed Not sold sitting here giving that away. Can't even get those anymore unless you want to spend like 100 bucks on ebay Beyond that we have other collectibles as well coming into play. We are partnering with companies several of them Here's one that might excite you Here's one that might excite you Ever heard of devolver digital digital devolver No, it's still all original isn't it? Okay Ever ever heard of devolver digital? I don't know. I mean they put on one of the best e3 live shows every single year Ever heard of them? How would you like? I don't know a copy of carry-on I'm just throwing that out there exit the gun chin. I don't know. What about hotline miami the entire collection Let's just say we have 50 copies of digital devolver games giveaway 50 That's already like monetary wise bigger than any giveaway. I've ever done at the channel Just from one company That's just one Oh, it gets better Ever heard of frontier games? I don't know. There's a little this is a little known company that makes roller coaster tycoon 3 I'm giving away copies of that Along with two other games from them Oh, let's see here. We are giving away. Let me talk. I got a lot to emails here um You should almost just make a list of this I well I have a list but I don't want to access it because it has keys on it Got it. So I don't want to risk it. Oh, this just in case someone spies a key. No I get you. I'm I'm being careful. That's why I'm in my email. I get you and avoid any part of it Question being vague. Yep in your emails. Did you receive an email today? From a specific company about something in summer Uh, no, that's okay. No No, I did not you could you tell me about that later apparently you did I don't think I can tell you. Oh, you can't tell me. Dang it That's sad. Um, nobody heard anything Have you guys ever heard of children of morta or morsha? I always forget how you pronounce that one 85 plus metacritic Where's that the tweet that you commented on earlier that's talking about something exciting or whatever. Yeah, I have no idea Yeah, I had to delete that Even though I didn't say anything So he basically teased and he knows something but he can never talk about it. So it doesn't matter Maybe friday Oh, is this after nintendo announces their stuff I'm not saying it's from nintendo. I'm just saying that like that's what's supposed to happen this week We're supposed to get nintendo z3 fans Um, I like that now He's like, uh, I gotta be careful. Yeah I have a meeting friday And then I'll know what I cannot talk about Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Why didn't they include me? You wanted to know why you have almost 100,000 subscribers I'm a peon over here Pion um, you're the one partnering with all the different A lot of them are indie studios indie studios love partnering with people Yeah, this is a small studio too Okay, but still okay, but still I mean, I did get one today. It was it was devolver digital though And it was just about my e3 stuff. It wasn't not meaning Um, so that the devolver digital was the new one today um You guys ever heard of a company called um jf games team They make heroes of hammer watch ultimate edition. Give them a copy of that And more I'm not going to go through all of them because I got I literally type in e3 and I mean I've 40 different companies I'm talking to Just to put that in perspective. By the way, I also am currently in talks with ubisoft capcom uh 2k and Square enix Nothing nothing locked in with them yet. It doesn't necessarily none of them have said no They might be partnering as well. I think what happens is because they're bigger studios So they're kind of like researching my channel They also may be Trying to see who else is reaching out for partnerships and maybe and seeing if there's a little bit more bigger More known channels that reach out and because I also I also happen to have a direct contact with with the team behind n'jala at gun hall So I'm just saying there could be something happening there Remember n'jala switch exclusive that is something that we have not played in the long while You mean you have not played. Yeah, that's very true You just be breath of the wild. Let's be honest. That's very true. Um, so That's just some of the things Beyond that we have actually partnered with an etsy person who makes really really awesome Custom wall lamps and I mean like the sickest of these things are oh my god They're like they're like this big like this is a triforce one Oh, my god, they are sick. All handcrafted. They're like $100 $150 the most expensive one is 200. We're giving away five of them We will have them in person to show you guys and we ship it out. We that's right Not everything's like digital codes, right digital codes are easy. We have companies sending this stuff We have partners sending this stuff. We are going to have a lot of stuff on hand I'm actually the problem with our set is I didn't build anywhere in the set to put stuff I didn't think about that So, um, depending on how much stuff shows up in my house to show off during the thing to give away I might need to hold another tape. I don't I don't know. Okay. I might need like a bin That's like the size of this room to fit it all I there's so much stuff guys. I I literally have at the moment 345 different Giveaways happening. You're in E3. Three. It's just do the math do the math on that. What is that like one giveaway every 10 minutes? Not even yeah, probably every five Now obviously some things will well we'll give away multiple things in once of course because it's impossible Literally, we wouldn't even have E3. It would just be four straight days of giveaways So we have we have to like obviously package things together like if we have 10 codes for a game We're not going to split up 10 codes. It's already we'll just alternate once 10 winners, right? Yeah Um But You'll be able to enter you got to be there to win though. There will be no winners Like if your name gets drawn and you're not there it's all happening while we stream There's no sign-ups for it ahead of time. You got to be there if you want the link to enter You want to know how to enter you want a chance to beat us and win prizes? You got to be there now. I understand not everyone could be there for 12 plus hours of live streams four days in a row That's okay. I realized that just come for a little bit You want to watch the nintendo stuff on your own? Cool. I got no problem with that Well, make sure you come back so you don't miss the giveaway that happens immediately after because I already can guarantee Something I know about from nintendo that I can't talk about We will be giving away right after nintendo's things done Eric's looking at me like what do you know about? Oh, it's already planned into the budget Because yes, it's being paid for we have out of pockets. It's already planned into the budget though So Be excited guys This e3 you're going to want to be at nintendo prime now as we're putting game over jesse on the spot Oh, yeah, so one thing I didn't talk about yet because I didn't want game over jesse to feel left out for a moment is we are going to have special guests coming out throughout our live stream on all four days to talk about things happening at e3 Um, because again, this is a show. It's an event. It's not just entertainment and giveaways Conversations, what's my channel about guys? We talk about games. We talk about the hardware Obviously, we're going to want to react to it and bring in other people So andres restart is already going to be coming on and I was hoping game over jesse If I want to come on for some of it now you have your own stuff I'm sure going on your own reactions. So obviously just like hmk does that's why hmk decided Eh, I'll come on after and be on the podcast. Okay far Madness but hmk wants to be hmk literally said I wish I wasn't a youtuber and I would come on like when I told him what's happening.  We let's do a joint event hmk come join me But now he's gotta do his own thing in his own channel. That's fine. Um, so game over jesse the invite is extended right now live Will you come at least one of the days at one time at some point to talk? Yeah Okay, so as long as it's not for the nintendo Direct I will be there and I'll be happy to be there even if it's ubisoft square Well, doesn't have to be even during the things that can be before it can be after No, I can come on Your show is crazy. I got to be there during yeah, I got to be there. Well, it's awesome. All right. All right If it was just me doing a reaction, I'm a very boring robot So my reaction even during the breath of the wild to reveal Everyone knows how big of a zelda fan. I am you didn't have a heart attack on me when I got revealed It was just like I just raised my hand. I was like yay But everyone else in the room was just screaming. Yeah, I literally like fell over and I'm surprised We didn't get kicked out of the hotel with help. Oh, I was so loud. I was so loud for my reaction I'm a noise complaint had to be made. No, no, no. These are regulars. Yeah, right These are regulars. They they're fine. They pay good. So I'll I'll be happy to be there with Whatever So we got game over. Jesse locked in as well. I am talking to some other youtubers Obviously the big thing with having other content creators on guys is They're E3. What do you think they're doing? They're making content and live reacting to things too, but again, we have others that have said Let's wait till the schedule comes out So we can see there might be a section during some of the days when like maybe they don't come out Like Jesse will come on for like Ubisoft or whatever But like if someone wants to come on to say react after Nintendo. Well, what's the schedule look like? Like what's the treehouse? What's the this? What's the that?   I think he said for like an hour.   I might ban it for the rest of E3 and Play something else. I'm actually a good add But uh, no, it's gonna be good fun guys, and I hope all of you 200 plus people make it out to the show And spread the word because the only way this show is going to work The only way the show is going to be the biggest and greatest E3 show is if everybody does their part and spreads the word We are a community. I am doing this for you. This is over $3,500 Worth of stuff committed and it's growing by the daily I literally spend half of my days Dealing with business emails talking to companies Sorting out funding for things trying to make this all happen. I mean, let's let's put it this way I'm sitting at work and my phone's constantly going Yeah, because I'm keeping Eric up to date because he's the co-host like I know what's going on And we don't even have it fully organized because we can't organize all of our stuff until we have the E3 schedule Right, so like that's why it's like not only am I excited for nintendo and knows what they're doing I want to know when they're doing it so I can build my schedule that day around what's happening with nintendo because Obviously for us nintendo is the biggest deal, but we're reacting to everything. Oh, yeah, because we always do So this is gonna be wild I Want all the prizes a few people said bring on the doggy comb Yeah, dude dk man. I would love a dk reveal 40th anniversary, baby. I still want to see um a little bit of dk animal crossing, but mainly just the bongos Place of dk bongos in animal crossing clear up a couple things in the chat Um, somebody said if you're already subbed you can't win the giveaways that no, of course you can win What are you talking about? Yeah, don't worry about it. I know a lot of people are wondering How can I enter the giveaways? Well? I can't tell you how because it's not time to enter Just be there Yeah, you'll need to be subbed to win of course, but that's that's a side dish. Just be there um When it comes to uh, someone said man, isn't your e3 gonna be quite chaotic so One great beauty can come from chaos. Oh, yeah Sometimes the best things in life come from the most chaotic of moments And I think I feel like the most chaotic moments are going to be live reactions to whatever the hell nintendo drops Breath of the wild 2 trailer.  I'm so excited and in your body in my body Probably that too Let me try to back flip off the table and we're gonna have to set up a webcam in your in your uh hospital room As you're all casted and but no body parts hanging up. Here's the thing. So for people who want man, it's going to be chaotic It's not We are going to have a schedule Okay The schedule, uh, I don't know if it's going to always be public facing So you guys can know what time things are happening at because the schedule will need to adjust It needs to be a little flexible based on what's happening live because we don't know all the announcements happening to you three So we need to have some flexibility in there for what's happening, right? Like oh, nintendo's done now But you know something big is happening in your tree house. Well, we got to push things back We got to we got to deal with this tree house stuff right now Right like so we have to be sure that we're flexible But I could tell you this the pre-show Fully mapped out basically every 15 minutes or something happening during the pre-show not necessarily a giveaway Could be a competition with eric and that could just be we have special segments for certain discussions Not certain games special guests special guests like again everything's going to be organized on our end Some of it you guys will see some of it you won't But it's going to be awesome It when when I tell you guys This show I'm putting on One is something I've never done before But it's something I'm very confident that I know what I'm doing because I've been covering this industry a long time I've got all the equipment I need to lock this all down I've got all the money invested in the set that I need to do I got all the money paid out and taken care of to uh take care of our various stream layouts Some of you guys saw a teaser of those stream layouts a couple days ago when I was streaming You saw some of those layouts. They're really badass. Aren't they? They're really cool. I think they're really cool. Anyways Um, we have grant curcope providing music For our event didn't know if you guys knew that I have actually talked about it before but how many people watching knew grant curcope the man the legend the myth It only gets better if I could team grant curcope with david wise And then you know you get koji kondo involved and it's just the trifecta of my childhood But We have like like exclusive music from grant curcope being used during our streams So I'm just saying this is huge bigger than anything I've ever done. I'm so excited. I can't wait. I'm nervous But I'm nervous excited nervous For you guys Because you guys have no idea what's about to hit you This is wild I've even upgraded the internet in my house to a business line I'm trying to make sure nobody Around me gets priority, but me It probably doesn't matter because of spectrum But Since I've switched I have not had my internet cut out one time now knock on wood Because the first time it'll happen is half of e3. Yep.  She's she's thinking ahead. She's thinking. Yeah, okay. Yeah, you know, you need a backup We're gonna be about six generators then too I know we're gonna knock out the power lines. We're gonna make sure we have generators on call. Yeah Oh my gosh, it's gonna be wild show. I hope you guys all tune in game over jesse. Thank you so much for coming down the podcast man You know anything else you want to cover before we go? No, there's everything was good. I'm just hoping, you know You're meeting a friday goes well anniversary is rumored. I Hope it comes. I was that I'm like what you're meeting on friday goes well. That's what I'm hoping Oh, yeah, yeah, I hope that goes well, but uh, just all the all the rumors and leaks of the zero 35th anniversary. I just hope uh Some something happens with that because for the 35th anniversary. We need Uh something like the the mario anniversary and so many people have been asking for it So I hope that happens. I hope the metroid prime gets announced for all the metroid fans and Yeah, I I hope There is at least a small tease or something confirmation of the switch pro Um So those are my three big things for e3 or if whatever anything happens like at a later direct, um, but Uh, yeah, thank you so much for having me on it. It was really great being on here Do you have any upcoming content you want to let people know to come check out? Do I um Or is it all waiting for your friday meeting? I mean, I know you have the podcast this week. Yeah Yeah, we have the podcast next week. Um, I'm I'm doing videos like I normally would uh Uh Yeah, just uh theories and top 10s and stuff. This is just gonna be cool. Uh, he's got some stuff in the works He just doesn't want to tell you what and when that's what I say. That's what I say Yeah, or can't go to game over jesse or can't or can't. Yes. Yeah, uh, it could be a camp If you uh head over to my channel, I know Nate is giving away the entire world But uh, we're also doing a small giveaway comparatively Uh on my channel, but it's cool because you're giving one one every every thousand subs on your way to Wait, uh, yeah 60 $60 e-shop card for every 1,000 new subscribers until we hit 100,000 where we are giving away Yep an Nintendo switch Skyward sword nice and a mebo nice I mean the joy cons as well and for people watching live I am linking game over jesse's channel in the chat right now if you guys go check it out and subscribe And there's a several videos on the channel that also features Nate as well.  I don't actually watch other people's videos. Yeah But I do I do come on your podcast sometimes. No, here's the thing I obviously watch your videos because I make follow-up videos to them, but I can't remember the last time I was mentioned besides when I popped in a live stream I feel like it's been a little while. Yeah, it was great seeing you pop in uh last night Yeah, I had Rated someone who Yeah, yeah, you rated you too rated super chat as well. Yeah, I didn't even know that was a thing everyone came in And I was like, oh my god, it's Nate. I was like, that's good. Let's push on the 170. We hit it. We did it Yeah but yeah, just uh, thank you and The invite for the e3 thing uh would love to come on to that Whichever Presentation or after show talk you would like to do sure. Yeah, we'll get that organized again Right now. I'm just trying to get people who are saying yeah I'll be part of it and then we'll organize when they're all going to do it once we know what the actual schedule is Um, it's guys. We're going to know the whole e3 schedule like in the next three weeks from all the companies so Well, we'll have a good idea and then we'll be able to set our schedule because I'm telling you guys right now Two hours before anything ever happens at e3 on all four days. We're live with our pre-show No matter if this starts at eight in the morning or we're live at six Which I really hope it's not eight in the morning. I'm hoping they go off pacific time and it's like 11 That's better for me. Great, but But so, uh, I was wanting to add in really quick, uh, since there is A couple of months left until e3 begins and you have this huge giveaway You, uh, since you invited me, uh You are more than welcome to come on the Highland gamescast either of you and uh, I'm always game. Nobody ever asked me I swear I never get asked But also to promote your big giveaway and let everyone know because I'm sure that'll get a lot of people over to this. Yeah, you're dude your podcast episode. I've been noticing getting a lot of viewers live For a while now it's been getting more since we we started scheduling them And we had like over 100 waiting for one of the scheduled things So then we were like Since there was a hundred people waiting and we hadn't even started yet Maybe we should start scheduling them more often and it's like 50. It's been closer to like 200 So probably I'm not quite up to your stream here today. Uh, yeah, this is unusual. Great. I'm letting you know right now We've never had this many live for a podcast ever Right, and I think it's because literally look at the title new switch probable was new virtual I mean come on. Yeah, right come on. Who isn't gonna come to that And you you did it wasn't click bait or misleading It took a while to get there but It's a podcast. Um guys in the chat right now if you're live, I'm gonna link a link to our pre-show stream That's right. It's already up so you can go set notifications It's set preemptively for 8 a.m on june 12th, but again That's just a tentative thing until we get the schedule But the stream is set up because guys we all know notifications suck, right? So as many possible ways as you can get notifications between you should subscribe You should hit the bell icon set it to all notifications, but you could set an individual notification for our pre-show So when it goes live Hopefully it works I don't know if it will But hopefully it does so I'm gonna put a link right now in there Uh for our day one so you guys can go set notifications for that Otherwise go check out game over jesse's channel. He does a lot of great stuff His zelda knowledge is beyond my own these days Beyond my own these days was probably a time when we were we were equals now You know, I've been covering everything for too long at this point If you can't tell his podcast is literally called the hylians gamecast. I mean come on now Come on now to uh to get a little sentimental here When I first I guess started talking to you or found out who you were since you were the one basically running zelda and former and I looked up to the website and Uh, since you were the person running it, obviously I looked up to you and then when I started talking to you I started getting more respect for you because I was just at the time riding for like zelda dungeon or zelda universe and I was Really liking zelda and former so uh when I started talking to you it was like almost like a role model Bigger because like you were in that position that I would like to be in the community Uh, it was like when I first started my channel or even before it when I was just riding on zelda websites And that's never went away even though You you have the different website.  What do you do? What are you doing over there? You all grew me It's the same thing like whenever I talk to you It's still like that that almost nervous feeling you get when you're talking to someone that you have a lot of respect for And you look up to and I I appreciate you're still that person so being a bit sentimental there, but yeah No, no, I legitimately I I appreciate that. I always wonder like I don't talk to a lot of people back from those days anymore For reasons that we're not going to get into on this podcast Um, I kind of had to force myself to disconnect which I didn't want to do but um It is nice like you're one of the few carryovers from those days that I still actively talk to here and there and Um, like I could even tell like when we when we met in person You know a couple times at e3 and Like one you're just so happy at e3 You talk about how quiet you are. You ain't no quiet at e3 Mm-hmm.   Jesse doesn't have energy. I've seen it Don't even right If you would have been around that's whenever Daniel and Jablima and everyone else came to get me after the I think it was the Bethesda e3 press conference I was loaded Shout out to cap Berguson in the chat everyone. Um, yeah He's part of the High League gamescast. He's got his own youtube channel as well. Go check it out Um, he does game streams. He also does occasional video uploads over there. Uh, and also for those who didn't know cap Berguson Talk about a small world. Um, he actually used to work for me at Zeldin former and then he technically Was part of my journey to becoming a youtuber because him and I were the ones making all the plans At zeldin former in like 2016 to try to be like, hey, we should really up the video because content We're putting out on the youtube channel. This is kind of like the future This is where things are going and Daniel was the one with me helping me do that Not just with like the podcast or something But actually putting out content still to this day the dragon break video on our channel is still one of our most viewed videos And daniel made that back in the zeldin former days Um, he's an awesome guy, uh, and he literally like honestly, this is all cool. Daniel He's just like game over jesse. I could have Let's let's say I have like, I don't know. Um game over greggie is going to come on right He's going to come on and be on one of our podcast episodes When something comes up cancels five minutes to go. I already have everything set up I'm ready to go. Oh crap because I will not do a podcast without a guest telling you right now but I could literally text daniel Like that he'll show up Same for game over jesse if he sees the message in time Like that's that this is the tight knit community and how small it is in this zeldin community that Sticks it out. I'm sure arm fh would be the same way. I don't know why I don't talk to him I should really talk to him more often Because he knows he knows all about because like arm fh knows more about me because not because like he worked under me or like that But I helped his youtube channel grow like I did so many zelda youtube channels back then when zeldin former was a big deal We were looking for content to post every day and I was the one that the sather and I said, you know What's happening on youtube right now, right? There's so many crazy zelda theories. Why are we not posting about these?  I'm not going to call anyone else specifically Maybe in private jesse if you want to know but i'm not going to call anyone else specifically I probably already know It's just it's just it's fine. People don't have to shout me out. I don't really care about that It's more so a man. I really thought we had like an actual relationship. I didn't realize it was just like you're just using me And that's one thing you got to be careful when you're in this industry, whether it's youtube Or running websites or any social media stuff a lot of snakes in the grass That are just looking for the attention and they don't actually and that's why I like jesse when you're talking about Even to this day you still look up to me. It's like Like it's touching man that like We go way back and you're just it's not about the views. It's not about the audience I could have 10 people watching you're going to be here and have just as good a time. You don't care It doesn't matter, you know Yeah, uh, really quick in the chat someone said what about zeltec with my experience zeltec he's always been Kind of quick to get back to me and messages. We used to be part of the group chamber of sages we used to collaborate a lot and then We kind of went our own ways But even though like we go months without talking Like whenever we went to e3 the entire group like commonwealth realm zeltec dr. Wiley Like all of them daniel or chablima Can tell you how many messages I was getting from them asking for me to come hang out With us have dinner and stuff because it was like every couple of hours But we were busy and then finally we had time to go out and have this big dinner and we all talked and had a lot of fun Not a lot of those people Are really really good. So uh zeltec ed is uh, definitely One of the good ones although sometimes he is a bit hard to get in touch with but you uh, Usually I think when I go to e3 You're like the only person You and daniel try to get a hold of me to like you at least say hi. Yeah, um Literally nobody else. It was only one other time and it was cody. It's of the universe wanted to hang out for a bit The first e3 is A king among yeah, cody's quite the I gotta get him on a podcast of a he Let me tell you want to be entertained I I could literally just sit back and just let him talk for two hours I'm not even kidding guys. He is awesome. Maybe I'll introduce you guys to him sometime I gotta see what his schedule is like and what's going on But thank you guys so much for tuning in. This wasn't tender prime. I guess episode number seven Thank you for joining us. Hopefully I'll see all you guys out the next episode also eddie 3 came over jesse We know we'll be talking Other times especially if you can actually talk about what happens on friday after your meeting that would be I like to be privy on things And hey, if you're a company out there that was watching this podcast and you would like to partake in our E3 giveaway extravaganza my email is nathan at nintendo prime net. Let's hook up. Let's make it happen Let's make gamers happy as we start to come out of this pandemic. Let's start it good and give feel good stories for hundreds hopefully thousands of gamers Catch you guys in that next episode


And now, it's my distinct pleasure to call on my other partner, President-Elect Dr. Robert M. Lamb, who will present his address. Dr. Lamb has served with distinction as the region for Regency 6 and as an officer of the college. Not only has Robert served at the college at the highest level, but he has also served his commitment to the community in our country. He retired from the Air Force as a decorated colonel in 1995 and was in private practice as an oral surgeon in Edmond, Oklahoma. He has been recognized numerous times for his devoted service to others and to the profession. Please welcome the next President of the American College of Dentists, Dr. Robert Lamb. Greetings to Seniors, Guests, President Jones, Officers, Regents, Fellows, Candidates, and Friends of the American College. Hi, y'all. Welcome to Houston. Isn't it great to be in an in-person meeting? The last two convocations, the COVID cohorts were virtual and were done very well, but it's so great to see people in the flesh. I was born in Dallas, but I presently live in the state to the north. So I'm used to saying, y'all, many of you who are not from the south may not be familiar with that term. It can be very confusing. It is gender-neutral. Y'all can be singular or plural. All y'all is very inclusive. Over the last few years, many college initiatives were completed, including two major publications. The Ethics Report, The New Professionalism, spearheaded by Dr. David Chambers, and ACD, Our First Century. Profiles and prerogatives, a third publication is in progress, and is a collection of biographies of all the presidents of ACD, starting with John Consent. The Executive Office moved from Gaithersburg to historic downtown Lockville, Maryland. This building was dedicated on August 20, 2021, the 101st anniversary of the founding of the college. The Pierre Fouchard Academy's office is also in our building. You can see the legacy walkway. Our mission advancing excellence, ethics, professionalism, and leadership in dentistry comprises the first bricks in the walkway. These bricks can be sponsored by individuals, by sections, or by friends of dental schools. As both Dr. Connolly and Dr. Fiella said, you can order a brick with your name on it, honor someone, or memory of someone. You can obtain information about sponsoring a brick from the Executive Office or the gallery at this convocation. The funds will go to the ACD Foundation, which supports the educational mission of the college. Here's a picture of the library in our new office, and a balance over one of the windows. Let me tell you about our staff in Lockville. Susan Pittman is Director of Operations. She has been with the college for over seven years and does an outstanding job. I had the privilege of spending three days at Lockville in August watching Susan and the other staff members interact so smoothly. She has amazing grasp of details and a global perspective. This is the fifth meeting that she has planned. Her organizational skills are unbelievable. Erica Royal has been with the college for 16 years. Hers is the first smile that greets you when you call. If she doesn't know the answer, she will get it and get back with you. At the annual session, she is in charge of the gallery and the silent auction during the year Erica interfaces with sections. Stephen Frohlich is a recent hire, and he manages nominations. He has assisted on meeting preparation tasks and is doing an excellent job. The staff are all present at this meeting and will aid you in any way that they can. Let's have a round of applause for our staff. The American College Board of Directors is having a virtual spring board meeting in March to allow for strategic planning in April our normal spring board meeting time. This is the first year the board has participated in strategic planning in over 25 years. The planning will give us direction in the selection of a new executive director and future directors. The president of the ACD Board of Regents and the president of the ACD Foundation will continue to provide leadership to the executive office in the coming months until a search for the executive director has been accomplished. What is the farthest you've ever walked or run? I'm sure many of you are avid walkers or runners. Some have done marathons. Some may have walked part of all the Appalachian Trail. Some may have walked part of all of the Camino del Santiago or the way of St. Luke in Spain. It is a 500-mile journey over three mountain ranges. Now can you imagine pushing a person in a wheelchair total weight 250 pounds over that distance? That's what two lifelong friends did. Patrick Gray and Justin Schesek were born two days apart in a small town in Oregon. They attended the same church in school and were inseparable. At age 16, Justin developed a foot drop of his left leg and his muscle weakness progressed. It took 13 years, many exams, muscle biopsies, and neurologic tests to establish the diagnosis of multifocal acquired motor axillopathy. In 2012, Justin's family lived in San Diego and Patrick and his family lived in Idaho. Justin couldn't do a lot of things but he could operate a television remote. He was channel surfing one day and came across a Rick Steves program showing Northern Spain and they talked about the Camino del Santiago. Thousands of pilgrims complete all or portion of this journey annually, ending in the Cathedral del Santiago, Campostali, where the bones of the Apostle James were said to be buried. He thought this was the perfect guide trip. Justin recorded this show and the next time Patrick visited him, Justin showed this recording to Patrick. When Justin asked Patrick if he wanted to go on this 500 mile journey, Patrick said, I'll push you. When Patrick asked his boss for six weeks off the next summer and described the trip, the boss said he'd do everything he could to make this trip possible but Patrick needed to document this trip with a videographer. Patrick the boss said that there was too much hope in this adventure not to share. Patrick had a friend from college who was co-owner of a video agency. He contacted him and he agreed to video the journey. Justin sold his house in San Diego and his family moved to Idaho so he and Patrick could plan their trip and train. They needed to find an off-road wheelchair, lightweight but rugged enough to get over three mountain passes, hundreds of miles of cobblestone streets and rugged terrain. There are very few wheelchairs that fulfill these requirements. They found a three-wheel chair made from aircraft aluminum, mountain bike tires, disc brakes and shocks for a cost of $8,000. It's a Bob Stroller on steroids. It would take five months to custom build and that would give them two months to train with the wheelchair. So Patrick started training. Their journey started in France and proceeded across Northern Spain to Santiago de Compostola, a firefighter paramedic friend accompanying Patrick and Justin for the first 10 days of the pilgrimage. During the first day, they climbed the Pyrenees over a rocky, steep and muddy trail. On the second day, the whale broke on the front tire and as they described it, the Stroller became a rickshaw. The problem is trying to find a person who could weld aluminum. This takes a very special skill. Too hot and the aluminum melts and gaps open. After a long search, they finally found a man to weld it. They asked him if he could do it and he said come back tomorrow at 10 and they would see if he could. The Camino was a very long, arduous journey but there are times of rest and reflection. A longer journey, Patrick and Justin met many people who walked a part of the journey with them. In a cathedral in one village, two men, Richard and Joe, saw them and asked if they were Patrick and Justin and they said they were and the two men said they were from Boise, Idaho about 10 miles from where Justin and Patrick lived and they had been following the details of their journey. At the end of the Camino is Osobrero, a third mountain range on the pilgrimage. It is extremely steep and Justin and Patrick can consider bypassing this part of the Camino and taking the road. Richard and Joe said they wait for them in a village and help them make the climb. We'll get back to the story in a few minutes. We may or may not have disabilities but we have all been pushed or encouraged by somebody in a lifetime. I'm a second generation dentist. Some of you may be third or fourth generation dentists and some may be the first to graduate from college or family. But very few have made it on their own. Several have influenced my life positively. My dad was one. My father was one. He was an engineering student at the University of Texas. When World War II started my grandparents couldn't no longer afford for him to go to college. So he became an officer in the United States Army Air Corps which eventually became the United States Air Force. Many engineering students became meteorologists or weather officers. Dad was stationed at a B-17 base in England. When I was young and ignorant I said that was a tough job predicting weather in England. Fog in the morning, burning off by the afternoon. But dad said that's not where they're predicting the weather. It was to and from and over the German bomb targets. I kind of imagine how difficult that was to make these predictions with isobars and pilot reports. Meteorology has become such an exact science with satellites, predictions, predicting weather down the streets almost. In addition to the commanding officer dad would brief the pilots on their missions, prior to the missions regarding the weather they would encounter. The B-17 or flying fortress was a heavy bomber that dropped more bombs than any other US aircraft in World War II. Here's dad with the crew of a B-17 is a 10 man crew, a pilot, co-pilot, navigator, flight engineer, bombardier and five gunners. It would take up to 45 minutes for the B-17s to take off and form into formation. This was a defensive tactic. While they had fighter escorts for the first part of their mission, the fighters had to turn back when the fuel got low. By coincidence, one of dad's best friends was the dentist, Dr. Larry Kerr. Some of you more mature fellows, Dr. Slaughter, Dr. Reagan may recognize his name. After the war, Dr. Kerr became an oil surgeon and practicing in the cotton New York. He was ADA president for 1979 to 80 and a fellow of the college. Not all the war was tough. Here was dad at the officer's club. And I'm not sure what dad did to have this picture taken. He may have missed a weather prediction or lost a bet. Dad and Dr. Kerr were lifelong friends. Here's a photo of dad and Dr. Kerr at a bomb group reunion of the 390th bomb group at the museum in Tucson, Arizona, nearly 50 years after they served in England. Through Dr. Kerr, dad became interested in dentistry and after the war, using a GI bill, he completed his prerequisites. It was a 1949 graduate of Baylor College of Dentistry. He practiced general dentistry and was at ACD region of Regency 6 from 1985 to 89. I wanted to be a dentist from childhood. Mom and dad instilled a great work ethic into me. My first job was an usher at the Dallas Music Hall for summer musicals. Several friends worked there and our parents would drive a carpool of us across town about 6 p.m. and pick us up about 9.15 for us to make $2 a night. It probably cost him more in time and money. I was a lifeguard in high school and that was a pretty sweet job. Working on that tan, sitting on the stand for about 30 minutes, off 15 minutes, every once in a while having to rescue a child who thought they could swim better than they could. And as I started college, I thought I'd continue a lifeguard, but dad had different plans. He started lining up jobs for me through his Lions Clubs friends. After my freshman year, dad said, "'Mr. Thomas has a job for you. "'Mr. Thomas owned a moving company. "'I worked for Mr. Thomas two summers "'and two Christmas breaks. "'We would start work at 7.30 in the morning "'and work until the job was done, "'sometimes 3 or 4 in the afternoon, "'sometimes 10 or 11 at night or later, "'but always back to work the next morning at 7.30. "'There is no sleeping in if we finish late.'" And then dad said, "'Mr. Jessup has a job for you, "'working in a school book depository. "'Early in the summer we had unload trucks "'filling the warehouse with mountains "'of cartons of books, "'and the rest of the summer would fill "'school book orders "'for the different school districts in Texas. "'The Houston School District's order "'filled four tractor trailers. "'I later figured these jobs "'dave me incentive to study during the school year. "'Dad was sneaky like that. "'I was accepted in Baylor College of Dentistry "'and my senior year I was on an Air Force scholarship. "'And after graduation I completed "'a general practice residency "'at March Air Force Base in Riverside, California. "'My base dental surgeon and program director "'was Colonel Art Saxel. "'Colonel Saxel's social became chief "'for the United States Air Force Dental Corps, "'retiring as a major or two-star general. "'General Saxel pushed and encouraged me "'and that aided me in life and my Air Force career. "'The Dental Clinic at David Grant Medical Center "'at Travis Air Force Base in Northern California's "'name for General Saxel. "'I was stationed in the England Air Force Base "'for two years, a general dental officer, "'and then I was accepted into a Royal Maxwell "'Facial Surgery Residency "'at the University of Oklahoma Health Science Center. "'Many of our staff attendings of our program "'pushed and encouraged me. "'Many of them were ACD fellows. "'From left to right, the late Bill Crune, Ed Brawley, "'Neil Glass and Mike Duffy are pictured here. "'Jim Baker also a fellow "'and many others contributed to my education. "'I served 14 active duty years "'at Air Force in six years in reserves. "'I was in private practice for 29 years "'at Edmond, Oklahoma. "'Early in private practice, I would attend dental meetings "'to me and snooze dentists, "'getting more out of an organization I was putting in. "'As I matured, I realized the purpose "'of being in an organization "'is to contribute more than you receive. "'Different people urged and encouraged me "'to get involved and help me "'as I participated in many organizations. "'Very few could do this on their own. "'Now back to Justin and Patrick. "'They continued their journey "'and arrived at the village where Joe and Richard "'were waiting for them in a cafe. "'Justin and Patrick ate and rested at the cafe "'and then stood, ready to depart for the last push. "'The whole cafe stood up, and 12 people, "'accompanied Justin and Patrick over Osaburo, "'the last mountain range. "'At one point, they even carried the wheelchair. "'Justin and Patrick at first "'resistant to accept help from strangers, "'but Justin said, if you deny someone "'the opportunity to help you, "'you deny them the joy of helping. "'After 35 days, they arrived at the Cathedral "'to El Santiago de Compostale, "'and their wives were waiting for them. "'So how does the story of Justin and Patrick "'and my story relate to the candidates for fellowship? "'You have been recognized for your "'compliment and dentistry, academics, "'military, civic, or church organizations. "'You're the top three to four percent dentistry. "'This afternoon, you'll become "'Fellows of the American College of Dentists. "'You'll be welcomed by many fellows "'into the college at your convocation. "'You have been nominated by "'and seconded by fellows of the college, "'but their names were stripped from your nomination. "'You have earned fellowship solely by your merits. "'I congratulate you in this recognition. "'Fellowship has a significant honor. "'You have displayed excellence, ethics, "'leadership, and professionalism.  "'Recognition does not come without responsibility. "'We expect you to find other dentists "'you can mentor, encourage, or push. "'You have colleagues who are active in dentistry "'or other leadership roles, "'who have not been recognized "'as a fellow of the American College. "'Nominate these dentists. "'Your nominator will guide you "'in the nomination process. "'Your section chair, your regent, "'or any officer, including me, "'or the executive office "'can aid you in the nomination.  "'As I talked this morning about those "'who pushed me, I hope you have thought "'about those who pushed you. "'If they are here, tell them thanks. "'If you're able to write them a letter "'over the next few days, do it. "'Now, who will you push? "'Who will you push? "'Thank you.'"


From San Francisco, it's theCUBE. Covering GitLab Commit 2020. Brought to you by GitLab. Hi, I'm Stu Miniman, and this is theCUBE's coverage of GitLab Commit 2020 here in San Francisco. Happy to welcome to the program a first-time guest off the keynote stage this morning, the co-founder and CEO of GitLab, Sid C. Brandy. Thanks so much for joining us. Yeah, thanks for having me. All right, so Sid, you know, first of all, congratulations. Good energy here at the show. GitLab definitely a company. I hear lots about in my travels, so we were super excited to bring theCUBE here. So many different things on the momentum of the company, where you're going, but I love when I have a founder on, let's rewind a little bit as to kind of the core, you know, why of the company and the skills that that early team brought. Sure, the why is Dimitri started GitLab in 2011. He was living in the Ukraine and he had two things he wanted to improve in life. He would like running water, he would like better collaboration software at work, and he started what he perceived as the most important problem to solve. So he built GitLab to have that better collaboration software. I only saw it a year later, and I thought this makes so much sense that the thing you collaborate with is also some of you can collaborate on that it's open source. Yeah, it's interesting because you say collaboration and we saw through the Enterprise 2.0 Wave and various communication technologies, I interviewed one of your partners Mattermost, which is kind of related there. You get there to GitLab, which in the early days, we heard a lot about, oh, is this a GitHub alternative? So how did the SCM piece end up there? Yeah, so we started with the SCM piece, that's what Dmitri made first because he had a need for it. And it evolved, it's now a complete DevOps platform all the way from planning what you want to do on a high level to monitoring, releasing, securing what you've built. And that wasn't intuitive to us. And it came about because Dmitri made version control, but he also made GitLab CI as two separate applications. And at a certain point, someone outside the company contributed a better version of GitLab CI. His name is Camille and we said, that's amazing. We'll make that official and do you want to join? And he joined and after a few months, he said, I think we should combine the two in a single application. And my co-founder Dmitri explained how he was wrong. These two were perfectly integrated, couldn't be any better. Custom API, same single sign-on, same idea of what a user can do. And I also explained how he was wrong because everything in the DevOps tooling space was a point solution and people wanted to mix and match. And he kept pushing for it. And at a certain point, he said, look, you might not believe that everything I say, but one thing is for sure, we'll be able to kind of ship at a faster rate if we combine it. And that was important to us. We were all about efficiency. But it turns out he was also right about the benefits for the user. People reported like, it's so much easier having everything in a single interface, being on the same page with my other departments. And that's how we stumbled across this secret, like, hey, this whole DevOps space, it started from just a few applications, but now people are using 15, 20 different applications and the handles between the applications were the problem and that we could solve by bringing them together. So we doubled down on that strategy. So that's how that came about. Yeah, I mean, there is no doubt that tool sprawl is a huge issue in the marketplace. Yet when you talk to developers, when they learn a tool, they tend to really love it and they all go to bat as well. I sorted it out and I found the best one for whatever piece of it. So how do you balance really building out a platform? But if there's a piece of it that they still wanna use, they can, how do you balance that? Yeah, you gotta make sure that you don't lock people in. Like the last thing someone wants is that they have to use everything. So open APIs, many integrations, some of which we maintain ourselves with Jenkins and a GRI and a GitHub. But also you make sure that sometimes people care very much about a certain piece of functionality. So with GitLab, if they don't like a certain piece, they can improve it, they can contribute back and every month, 200 improvements come from our users. They had something in their old application that they really liked and now they get to add that to GitLab and that's how you kind of take away all the objections over time. Yeah, I'd love you to comment on just the explosive growth that you've been seeing. You're now over 1,100 employees. You talked about how much outside a contribution you're getting there. But the amount of features that you're adding and you're releasing every month, how do you manage the growth of the company, the growth of product and make sure that the company doesn't lose focus? Yeah, I think we've done a really good job of splitting up the tasks, of making sure every team has a part of the product that they're responsible for and you don't have to go to five other teams to get signed off. And if you Google GitLab categories, you can find out exactly which team is responsible for the back end, for the front end, who is the product manager, who is the product marketing manager for a specific piece of functionality. So I think that's really helped us making sure the teams can still ship and they're not bogged down because other people don't have time. The mission is that everyone can contribute and you're looking to really help companies solve one of the key problems of being a software company which is reducing cycle time. How does that translate into growth and revenue for your business? Yeah, so that cycle time between planning to do something and getting it out to users, that's what companies need to become software companies. And they're seeing that they're able to do that faster with GitLab and we've seen amazing growth. We just announced we're over 100 million ARR. We're seeing amazing growth in revenue as well. We're more than doubling revenue every year. We've almost tripled the amount of people working at GitLab last year to keep up with that growth. Yeah, very interesting dynamic. You had a sizable round of funding towards the end of 2019. Congratulations on the milestone you said. In February 2020, you hit $100 million ARR. I guess the question, it's publicly stated that you're looking to IPO later this year. We've seen many unicorns out there delaying what they're doing. They wait until they have $200, $300 million in revenue. Is there a reason why you're charging towards an IPO? We want to become a public company sooner rather than later because first of all, we think it fits us. We're a very transparent company. We don't mind sharing what we're about and what our financials are. The second thing is, I think one of the big things holding GitLab back is that we're not as well known and becoming a public company will help spread awareness about what we can do. And that's one of the most important things we can do. So that's why we're going forward. We'll go public when we're ready, when the market is ready. We think that's this year and we might be wrong. We'll see how it ends up this year. But we're looking forward to that and we're looking forward to being even more transparent and also sharing our financials. Sid, one of the things you said, you're over a thousand employees and you're completely remote. As far as we know, the largest company that is 100% remote. Talk a little bit about the challenges from building a culture in that type of environment, but it's also something that I think GitLab's helping to enable other companies along that same journey. Yeah, we're figuring out a lot of things you have to do to be all remote and we're trying to share those lessons. And that's anything from working handbook first to communication styles and being intentional about informal communication. So if you Google GitLab all remote, you'll find tons of tips. And those are based not just on what we say but what we do. You have a public handbook of over 3,000 pages with all our internal processes. You can check what we really do to make this work. And I think it's gonna be the future. And the future companies who make digital products are gonna be much more all remote. And we wanna enable that trend. We think it's great for team members. We think it helps you reduce your commute time. It helps you be able to intersperse what you do at the company. With what you do in your private life, you're able to go to the gym or the supermarket when it's not busy. And also it helps to be more flexible. So it's great for team members. It's also great for companies. You get to attract people wherever they are, get much more access to talent. And the talent that people can stay with you year over year. We have an 85% retention of people who stay with GitLab every year. Is that something you think that spans across whatever roles they are? Lots of companies I talk to, they'll have their development groups will be highly distributed. We've seen global development workforces for decades now but marketing roles or product teams often have been in regional offices. Obviously, if you've got salesforces groups, often they will have regional offices. So is this specific for the digital and development type organizations or is this something you think will span across other roles? When we graduated at Y Combinator, they told us, well, this works for engineering. It maybe works for sales because they're close to the customer. It doesn't work for finance. It doesn't work for marketing. And I think we've proven that it does work. Our marketing team is all in on GitLab but also we've seen other marketing teams. There was a presentation today by someone who runs a marketing team and they're using GitLab, not just for the issues but they're even like version controlling, they're copy, they're messaging in GitLab. So I think the time has come to accept that the tools have gotten so good and people have gotten so knowledgeable that it works across all departments. Yeah, Sid, I'd like you to comment on your partner ecosystem. She said everything's open so therefore there's no lock-in. How do you build more community from your peers from the vendor ecosystem? Yeah, you see here today we have different vendors out that get customers here that integrate with us. There's vendors here. We have an alternative in GitLab but they have something that they think adds unique value and we want to give them a podium. We want people to know that we're not locking them in so we're very helpful. We're trying to be helpful, get them on our blog, get them media because nobody wants to be locked into one solution. So that's a really important message that we're sending. All right, Sid, I want to give the final word. As you said, people, GitLab is not yet a household name. What do you want to make sure that people understand who GitLab is and why they're important for the future of software development? So we're a complete DevOps platform delivered as a single application and we help people go much faster. At Goldman Sachs they went for the most important application they went from two weeks to get that out to door to two hours to get that out to door. That's the value we can bring because you don't have to go to 15 point solutions to get your work done. You have much better visibility. People can switch teams. You have a good overview of your security posture, your productivity. That's the value we're bringing. We can reduce people's their licensing cost, their cost of integrating things but most importantly we can help them go faster and get to revenue faster. Sid C. Brandy, thank you so much for joining us on the program. Really appreciate theCUBE coming to GitLab Commit. Awesome, thanks for coming. All right. I'm Stu Miniman, check out thecube.net for all the shows we will be at in 2020. Thank you for watching theCUBE.


Not an original shirt. Oh, just the original design All right, here we go. We're live on the metal voice today. We're just two and then there were two And then there were two and there were two sometimes Well, you know what this is sort of a last-minute review of Def Leppard's new album and there it is Shows your shirt Warlock Yep and a last second review of Diamond star a halos the new Def Leppard album was it's gonna be released May 27th, which is tomorrow Seven years from the last one. It's interesting because Joe seven years ago You and I real we did a review of the last Def Leppard album And I can't remember what I said about that because that album kind of crept up on me a bit I thought it was I thought it was okay Mm-hmm But in as the year in the intervening years I find that to be a really strong record that self-titled album really strong And I think absolutely they're strongest since euphoria And I know they haven't had a whole lot in that they don't do an album very often But there are at least two or three re releases Between euphoria and a self-titled Def Leppard album, and I think that the self-title record from 2015 is actually really strong really good interesting enough I Think as I listen to it today, and I and I haven't played it in a while. I would agree with what you're saying It's actually not a bad record. I mean, I wouldn't say it's a pyromania here But I'm no good then this is the this is the problem though once you let go of this is It gonna be pyromania part two is it gonna be a skiria part two once you let go of that there is a great deal of Fine music from latter-day Def Leppard I mean the sparkle lounge can't stand the name of that record, but that's a really solid hard rock album as well Actually, that's a really good album, too. I mean, there's really only been Two duds in my opinion in the Def Leppard catalog I think slang was just a woeful misstep. It's still out a couple of good songs even and I think X You could say the same thing about X There was a couple of good songs, but that was just I thought a real low point and that brings us to the latest album Yeah, I mean, okay, we'll go quickly through the tracks fast fast But just overall I would say and this is my sort of sentence on it and you can give your One or two sentence on this. Yeah, it's got this glam rough production You know, Joe Elliott's kind of singing in that chest voice right registers not really doing that pyromania highs A lot of little orchestration bits a lot of slow moments. It's a t-rex ish type of album And it's nothing like the first three albums for all you hardcore Hard rock Leppard fans and give your gear give your one or two sentence overview on this You got to understand Bands I find in my opinion Which means nothing Ultimately become their influences to some degree Iron Maiden but get become the progressive rock band that all of the Steve's influences are Def Leppard have become the glitter rock Sounding influenced band that Joe Elliott always, you know, that's sort of his his love of that music now I've only had this record since late last night. I've given it a couple of spins today and The way I'm feeling right now, this is this is their third misfire This is death because there was slang there was X and now there's this I mean, I'm not counting that covers album called. Yeah, I thought that was just Awful, but most covers albums are so we'll give them a pass on that now Mm-hmm This just doesn't have any bite to it at all There's a couple that the opening track is cool and I and I just love how it's positioned at the front of the album We both could agree on that what you want a melodic rocker, right? But I but I almost feel cheated that it's position. It's almost strategically positioned At the at the front of the album to offer fan service to make people think it's gonna be a heavy album It's not this album is about as heavy as a is a Duran Duran record. It's really a Garth Brooks record. It's It's once again in my and again, I may I may be calling you up two weeks from now going dude It's actually really good, but no, I mean, I'm I don't think so because I've listened twice today And if you have to work that hard to get into a record, there's something wrong I find this this record is yet again them trying to dabble with With a you know a more can't I won't even say contemporary just a more trying to make a more Trying to do what they think is gonna be a more accessible record and I rather than just being defleppant and I think that is This is their third misfire in my opinion slang X and this new one. I'm sorry. I would add this I think the songs themselves are good. I just Be and again, I want people to understand this Joe Elliott his voice is you know, he's he's all right He's like anything I really see that is the big issue because this material you wouldn't be screaming over top of it Anyway, it's not that sort of material. Okay, we're gonna go through the songs fast fast. Okay. We talked about the first one kick That doesn't mean here's the thing. It's decent enough song to your point, but it's just Sonically the way it's presented just has it has no kick. It's really Even the good songs just seem to everything everything has that new to kind of feel where it's like that There's sort of almost a little bit. It's like when Michael Bolton rocks out, you know on some of those late 80s albums He did it's almost like they take a song that really could rock out But they kind of put a cap on it sonically so it doesn't get to Heavy it's it sounds a bit like that. I T-Rex T-Rex, that's the vibe of T-Rex Yeah, well like a lot of modern country which basically is is AOR hard rock and a different guys these days You know, I mean a lot of country they just kind of put that lid on it where it just can't Bus through and rock too hard even though this the basic song idea very much could be turned into that Eric says I like the singles I've heard so far But I'm not looking forward to hearing the songs that aren't so single worthy got the vinyl on the way and the single rock squark is saying Now this is an interesting comment. Here's a guy that's heard the singles seems to quite like him He's not looking forward to hearing the album, but he's bought the vinyl, you know, it's like and this is how these bands survive It's like people just are on autopilot. I guess they just kind of go new deflepid up and buy it and hey nothing wrong with that I'm not gonna purchase this I mean unless something really changes between now and when I'm done listening to it I don't think I'm gonna be buying this because I just don't feel it Bless me. I just don't cut away to the album on that. Okay. I just don't feel it's a strong record It really for me was I don't know it was okay And you know that was where their influence is the and it goes on it goes on longer than a It goes on longer than the bloody battle of a song as well.  And but I do like the course. It's got that siren Yeah, again, again, it's funny how the three singles are the strongest songs And I don't know if I find them the strongest songs just because I've heard them a few times already Maybe once I've heard the whole album a few times. I'll be going. Okay. It's not so bad But again, like I said, I'm just not feeling this record All right, Eric is saying no, I am looking forward to hearing the album and he's just laughing Okay, now now we're getting into territory that people have not heard yet SOS emergency now, I thought this was This guitar, I mean, that's a that's about a wait a second. Did I miss that one? Oh, yes Sorry, this guitar. Okay. Now we're getting into Garth Brooks, right? Yeah. I mean really It's Garth Brooks and I and this is Alyssa. What's her name? Oh What's her name, Alyssa Geez, what's her name that sings with wabber plant? Okay, anyways, I forgot Crows Crows Crows Oh Allison Crows Allison Crows Allison Crows Allison Crows not Alyssa Milano Now we're getting into a bluegrass Garth Brooks acoustic and I was kind of like and drum machine and I'm like Where are we going here? Are we are we are we gonna compete for the neck? You know this year's top 10 country awards. I don't know again I do think they've got something in their head where they're again going. You know what? Let's stop, you know They seem to do what I call a what everyone calls a fan service record every so often they do like a They do a record that's for death leopard fans Which is which is a little bit heavier a bit more rockier By no stretch of the imagination is a high and dry But it's about as close as they're gonna get these days and that was the last album that was the brilliant euphoria, which I love They're kind of like right. Let's do an album for the fans and then they seem to do an album for the What I call one last grasp at a commercial success that never seems to work for them. It didn't work for X It's not gonna work with this either All they do is push that they die hard fans further and further away and they don't grab any new fans Well, maybe they're thinking, you know what? Maybe we could get into that country You know, what we don't know is the country the country will country world doesn't want Yesterday's 80s rock stars They don't want that and they they're never accepted very few people have made that crossover successfully Least of all death leopard. I mean they did that crossroads thing with Taylor Swift It did nothing, you know, it didn't do anything for that career. I'm saying Ron Keele did Garth Brooks. So, you know He tried but Ron is Ron Keele the big hot new country star. No, he's not he's had to go back to do You know, he's he's he's back to doing his keel stuff. It didn't it didn't turn him into a country superstar At all. Yeah, yeah, that's nothing against him, but he's playing bars Yeah, yeah, no, I get your point. There's some good points there I wanted to just finish off in this vocal thing and I get it Joe Elliott, you know It's probably in the 60s now his vocal range is not gonna be what it used to be and I get that and I'm not putting him down I'm just saying that I think these songs in these album on this album If they were some sort of like with the intensity of Paramania, you would have been talking about another This would have been a great album I just but I get it that Joe can't and it's understandable and I'm not trying to knock him It's just what it is. It's just what it is. Well I'm not even sure that would even matter But yeah, I mean SOS emergency is probably a bit of a blip on the radar in the positive direction again That's that's probably gonna be a single at some point or something. Maybe. Um, this is classic Def Leppard, right? This is a class It isn't it isn't that's the thing. It's this almost there, but not quite. It's I really liked it I enjoyed it. I thought SOS emergency was a good. It could have been off. Adrenaline's it could have been Because it was Adrenaline's was that sort of halfway there halfway kind of it wasn't that heavy But it was still sort of sounded like Def Leppard a lot, you know, yeah, that's a fair comment All right, so they saying there's always two three good songs and every Def Leppard album. That's yeah And they've all been singles so far. I mean that I mean that is the thing that is always I would even say five There's always three to five songs that you go. Why can't it all just be like this? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right, so let's go to the next song liquid dust. I don't know. I like this one too. I like Well, I wish I could just hit play now and remind myself what it sounded like was there was like these Arabic scales at the end. There was a cool guitar solo harmony It's actually one of the better songs off. I wrote eight out of ten and I like the guitar Well, and like I said, I've only had this album since last night. I've listened to it twice today I need I need a little bit more time. I'm probably making a fairly damning opinion based on Not having listened a whole lot, but I I'm pretty good at my first impressions of a record. I've been doing this for a long time So yeah, yeah, it's got these little orchestration keyboard bits just coming and going and I noticed that's a theme throughout the whole You know, I feel terrible if I if two weeks from now, I'm singing the Selvon praises I You asked me to do the show today, and I'm just based on how what what the album sounds like to me today That's fair enough. That's fair enough. That's fair enough so I'll give everybody a little picture of the album cover and They're supposed to be sort of images of their of their heroes or the songs that they loved of the past on that cover I Correct me if I'm wrong, correct me if I'm wrong. All right Where are we at now? Okay, we're at just David I hope rock you rock me, but it's me is spelled with oh, yeah, I mean this is this has got that sort of Club kind of vibe that that no no, thank you. I'll agree with you This was a bit like this was like that song off the last album.  It was called out. It was just this Sort of dance floor rock, you know But not not not done as good as someone like Billy idols able to do it and make it really work and make it be great You know, I just know no, thank you Marco saying I listened to only the three singles nice the rest not even I Listened to to only the three singles. They were nice the rest not even one So I guess he's trying to say the rest the album is not what he only listen to the first three singles And he hasn't heard the rest or we listened to the first person to the whole thing Retype your comment. So you rocked me. I would say it's a dud. I did not it's a dud. It's absolutely a dud Now goodbye for good this time. That's a next song It's kind of a bleak cano kind of thing that I just Exactly really adds much to the old you know what it adds it adds yet more downbeat ballad reach for the album Yes, yes, and you know, you know what's concerning We're only halfway through the album so far. There is another Six seven songs. Oh, you know, it's way too long. They need a short short snappy ten track All killer no filler record and this is this is more filler than killer. Yeah, have they ever done piano? I was trying to think back. Was there ever like a piece? I would give them a credit to this I do like that sort of organic piano feel and I believe there's Well, they did Solo they did battle of my own on the last record which was stripped down and mostly acoustic and it was kind of zeppelin And I thought that was a brilliant song. It wasn't my favorite songs of the last record 8 out of 10 on goodbye for good this time because I like the guitar solo It was an acoustic guitar solo and I thought hey, that's pretty cool. There's piano There's I mean just just picking just picking up a different tool doesn't make you doesn't make something good You know, it doesn't mean to go there never done that before. I mean it still has to be good And I would you you go with thumbs down on that. I go thumbs up on that one. Okay. All right, all we need All we need and I wrote could have been off the last album death leopard light Yeah, but it wouldn't have been one of the strongest songs It would have been one of the kind of it's it's like the prom night kind of song, you know, I just I Just didn't again. It's there's just not enough energy. Yeah, that's the key word. There's just this album lacks energy You could take any one of these songs and take them away from this album and probably find some merit in most of them But it's got to hang together good as an album and it doesn't it just doesn't Open your eyes. It's got like an intro bass groove But it sounds like a very minor key sort of song very romantic in a sense to me. I wrote down boring Yes, that's one word I'd use Yeah, it's kind of like And you know what I've got to say something I know I'm keep interrupting our flow here, but a lot of the time I Keep, you know, we keep getting Notes and reports and finding out that the artists actually are watching our reviews and shows and all that but I'm not one of these you probably sees got long hair. There's iron maiden posters in the background I'm not one of these guys that wants them to make on through the night and high and dry over and over again I'm a guy that found plenty to like on the last record plenty to like on Sparkle lounge plenty to like on Even found some stuff. I really liked on X I'm not one of these legalistic people that's trying to hold them to Being the band that they haven't been for almost 40 years now. I Wanted to like this album. I didn't come in with a negative attitude. It's just not happening for me That's all that's a very good point when you said I'm the same way as you I'm going into the sound thinking I want to like this album. Yes, there is some tendencies to in me to say I like it to sound a little more like Paramania But I mean that's not that's that ship is Not Paramania in terms of the song sounding like Paramania, but Quality songs like Paramania. That's yeah I mean, I don't even think there'd be much merit in them doing the song like action not words or stage fright I mean, that would be almost ridiculous at the age. They are I'm actually thinking stuff like paper sum From euphoria would be is a really mature heavy dark kind of direction And there's a reason they still play that song occasionally, I suppose and And there's some stuff off the last record that I thought really fit that category well as also This is just a lot of the stuff actually sounds kind of twee and almost childish to me the almost new record. It's just Again, I think they're going for a big seller here Hoping they've got one and I just don't think it's gonna happen for them I could go. Hey, I hope I hope I'm wrong because just just cuz I don't like it Doesn't mean that if some millions of other people find some reason to like something in there that works for them And it's a hit record then that would make me really happy But personally, I don't think I'll be listening to this too much beyond this week. Give me a kiss I thought this was a more of a rocker 70s sounding Very catchy chorus. This is this is this is the worst track for me I mean, I like the song. I thought I thought this was rubbish. Give me a kiss that rocks I'd be embarrassed to even record something like that. I thought it was awful Look, they don't they've never had the great, you know song titles in this this makes this makes this makes that this this makes a Let's get rocked sound like Bob Dylan really.  It's just a It's a country kind of it's a country kind of lyric. I found modern country sort of lyric I do like it though. I thought I put it down as one of the songs that I enjoy Yeah, um, no, thanks none for me. Thanks. All right angel angels. This was another slow one with orchestration Yeah, there's way too much way too much downbeat Slow and sappy on this record Yeah, yeah, it's just another it's just another slow piece like goodbye for for good this time very similar to that Too much again, I don't mind these again You could take any one of these songs and isolate them from the record and they'd all have merit, but except for give me a kiss but it's You put them all together. It's got a flow as a record and there's just too much of one thing here There's too much slow. There's too much downbeat. There's too much Mid tempo, it's just a little bit the album really drags and when you turn it into a 15 song record with two bonus tracks, it's It goes on absolutely forever Lifeless, I thought I liked that one too a little a little more of on the countryside of stuff and nice guitar solo Yeah, well, I'm just I'm not a modern country fan And that's what that's neither am I but I kind of like when bands go out of their element and And and maybe this album is really about that like we've done everything we sell out arenas We, you know, we headline stadium tours and maybe I can't pretend to know what goes on behind closed doors, but I do I do think at some point I would I would I would I would bet that at some point Def Leppard are kind of There's a certain element of frustration Okay, euphoria. We give them an album. That's pretty much the sequel to hysteria It's sold me all these albums sold well enough, but it didn't it didn't work as a as a juggernaut success Okay, so we go the other direction. Let's go with x. Let's do the boy band thing almost. I mean, they're really Bringing the outside riders. Let's really go for a hit and didn't work boy. Okay Let's kind of split the difference on sparkle lounge and still didn't work Okay, let's just make a very organic Def Leppard sanding record with with the self-title record, which I thought was a good record Still didn't turn into a mega seller.  Let's just do what we want and this record could very well be What they want and god bless them. Good luck to them. But is it what I want when I buy a Def Leppard record? No, so You know, we all have we all we all have our choices in life, don't we? Yeah. Yeah Unbreakable it's the last track I could have sworn they've already got a song called unbreakable, haven't they? I mean I Maybe not it was breakable I kind of had an on through the night guitar riff, but then it kind of I don't know. It kind of loses me a little bit I did like it It didn't stick out to me And maybe it was something that would come, you know a def a def leopard This record if I could wind up liking and enjoying half of it I'd be really happy because there's so much of it. It's 15 songs, you know And I you know if any of them or anyone from their camp is watching this I'm not down on Def Leppard. I'd be like I love seeing them live. They've got they have nothing to prove to anybody I I really you know It's funny. I'm a I'm a big fan, but I'm not crazy about this new record. It's just When we reviewed this seven years ago, I was not crazy about this album But when I put it on now, I tend to enjoy it maybe because Again, they're out of their element. They're not it's not a pyromania album. It's just It's kind of different, you know, and and maybe this album too. Well, we'll kind of get what they were I just feel I feel this whereas that album was quite a well balanced album as far as varieties of tempos and keys And there was enough of the old Def Leppard and there was still some new stuff This isn't like that. This is this is like ballad heavy This this to me has more in common with x than any other album they've done Yeah, well That's it any final thoughts. I mean You missed this song from here to eternity. Oh from here to eternity. Isn't that an iron maiden song? Yeah, how land a bad place 30 years old through the dark This was like more of a mid-pace 70 song. I would put it out again not super fast just sort of There's a lot of mid mid-paced and slow songs and a lot of piano a lot of orchestration Yeah, I think through the average Def Leppard fan this is going to be a little too downbeat and a bit too It'll be it basically to me Oh, so anyone asking that sort of says jobs get to the fucking point. This is this is x part two All right. Okay. This is x part two I don't I don't Not bad. It's not as disappointed as you are. Maybe that's it's but you take x. It's all done really well It's wonderfully written. It's wonderfully produced. It's wonderfully put together But it's just boring What would you rate it in the early in the early week of this album like or How arrogant how arrogant of me to listen to a record twice and then Okay, we don't have to rate it. That's all I mean for me. This is not if this is I mean if a five is a half a good record I haven't found half a good record here yet In my but it could change it could change over time So I'll I'll be very generous and give it a six out of ten I would say seven out of ten.  I give it a six out of ten And with that that's with a provisionary mark just that it might get it might you know grow on me a bit You know and again, I I don't I hate to sit here and knock death leopard because I think they're a brilliant band I think they're a brilliant band too. And if they came to town, I would go see them I love most of their work like you do. So there's not we're not knocking them in that sense We do love the band. We do support the band But this album kind of fell flat a little is killil watching. I'd like to know what he thinks I don't even know if he's a death leopard fan I mean he doesn't even know if he surprises me because he likes a bunch You know, sometimes he likes things I don't think he'd like and then other things that I think he'd love he's never heard of so All right, 30 seconds and we're out of here last Or we're gonna set 30 seconds or we're gonna have 30 seconds of silence Let's see if we could play your song here. Oh, we're definitely can then critique my song. Okay. There we go Let's see if we could do this I'm having problems playing it. What are you playing? What are you playing the metal voice theme song? Hmm Yeah, I guess if I'm still again knocking someone else's record you should play something on mine So people can have an opportunity to criticize me. That's fair. Well, the thing is when we stream live It's a lot harder to play a track And uh, but it's all good. All right, everybody. Thanks for watching Giles.  Keep rocking