may get Jessica Jones back I can see that happening should be next in line right before Luke Cage and I just it's in that order it's actually in that order pretty much we shall see it's about Punisher yeah that's another huge wild card he got two seasons he did well I don't like that but not very good Punisher dead last I don't know I don't know if they would can they handle that in the current MC I don't think so Punisher Blade and Deadpool all of them require a bit more it's just that tier above in terms of rating and I guess they don't want to I don't know they don't seem to want to do that I think Deadpool's meant to be R rated we'll see do you remember once upon a time they said Vismanus was going to be like R rated and scary and horror and stuff yeah and then it just turned into safe sludge pretty much few creepy visuals but that was really as far as they went with it yeah like detonating Black Bolt's head was even to me I was just like oh wow there it goes blood comes out of his nose a bit much and I think that's indicative of where we think the Marvel Universe is the fact that that makes me go like wow you guys did that and it's pretty tame for what it could have been absolutely but yes, dear devil we will be watching with great interest and I think the entire world will be very fucking unhappy if they make this the same way they've made all their other shows which by the way it seems public sentiment is pretty much on board with the idea now that all the Disney plus shows feel the same they're just these things that bump out so you better change it up it's kind of Star Wars is kind of the same way where that interesting thing you think it'll be about it's not it's super generic every fucking time but that doesn't mean oh they could do this and that nope it'll nope they know they won't doesn't doesn't mean that they won't be that show one at some point in the future where they actually go we're not going to do it that way whoa and maybe that will be there devil who knows I mean there's so much between now and then there is I mean this is I mean it says bring 2024 so we still got another year and a half or so and then we got Captain America New World Order do we know anything about this don't well it's just we know that's going to be Sam going on his adventures I don't know about if there's Bucky or like what it's about or villains or anything at all though there's quite a while I am well that's the thing isn't it's going to be taken on from Falcon and the soldier which was a nightmare show I rewatched birds elope with the sun made the big sort of like the four hour sort of condensed e-fap of that and I was listening through it that show is bad it sort of gets under the radar in the memory like a lot of things do but man that show is pretty catastrophic I'm still going away it's morality systems and what they did the characters kind of amazing we went we because we took almost like the 11 hours to go through that entire show yeah it was yeah I generally think I referenced it I said yeah we talked about this it's like it's 11 hours or so watch birds the four hour sort of condensed version there's a reason why we hate Sam Wilson they ruined him but they did a lot of damage to a bunch of people in that show and I think the passion it took to sort of go through that that's going to just wane as more stuff comes out I can't see us doing something like that for She-Hulk I think the best you'll get probably is a couple of hours talking about it if that happens I don't even know I don't know anymore what characters are there left to be invested in the new characters are meant to replace the old ones but they haven't really the old ones were not replaced they were not in any meaningful way they're just the ones we have now which is not the best one for replacement like oh yeah it's just this is what we got we don't have the old ones we got these you like them right to the end of this phase with Thunderbolts yeah which for those who don't know is a collection of criminals and villains kind of like an antihero game which yeah to be comprised right now of all we know is at least Walker is in there I think Walker, Zemo, Yelena I think those are like the they're going to go on some mission I guess and do things well Walker is great and unfortunately I don't want to see any more of Zemo because I don't want him to be ruined I'm worried about what they're going to do to him yeah Walker as well the second they portray him again he's going to be evil yeah they'll forget what they managed to do with him either accidentally or intentionally whatever that was yeah like someone just said Walker's an antihero now it's like they'll probably make him that yeah I mean he's just a really morally upstanding great guy it's funny when you say like a team is comprised of Zemo, Yelena and Walker I'd be like what the fuck team is that like what three people do not like at all share I wouldn't even say that it's two to one in terms of like good or whatever it's like all three very different what's their common goal or thread they're going I don't know I have no idea so yeah phase five looking to be you know like the highlight will be guardians more than likely but daredevil will be something to really keep an eye on and then there's curiosities you're in there yeah but otherwise that sludge pipeline they're building it out they're trucking ahead we should pull up the phase well we don't need to pull up the picture really but the phase six one what do we know in total about phase six it's just the Avengers movies isn't it fantastic four and then yeah two Avengers movies and then a bunch of other projects you're going to be too Avengers movie even be in a year it's Avengers the Kang dynasty not a very good name and then Avengers the Secret Wars which is like big comic storyline big potatoes yeah and yeah you'd I think that'll be cranking everything to just absolute elevens everywhere like every cameo we could possibly imagine every possibility I wouldn't be surprised if you see a Robert Downey Juniors and Chris Evans coming back he's going to be chaos there's going to be so much crap in that movie probably chaos and pain and we're just going to talk about how do you remember when it was like six of them they defended a city and that was it that was nice that was nice when they defended a city and we knew who they were now it's just 37 people and you know there'll be some interdimensional mega multi it's just incomprehensible incomprehensible baseball's done wonders for our expectations this is the multiverse saga fucking shit excuse to put in anything we want yeah kind of yeah so the next thing in line for Marvel right now is wait what is it again he helped his next right she helped the show that is the next thing hopefully they don't have any willed ending fucking stakes in that that'd be nice it seems like Wong is just sort of like going everywhere that'd be kind of fun he's going to have racked up more appearances soon than most of the many I think so I think legitimately that list of appearances is quite long he's been in like seven movies I think Wong man which takes us to now talking about the other lads what's up over on the DC side of things not much we've got Shazam fury of the gods yeah oh my goodness my first note oh dang someone's at the door I'll be right back we'll press on obviously you and I have seen Shazam right yes yeah I thought it was worse than everyone told me it was oh yeah it's got tons of plot problems every love that every problem I remember people saying they just like the fact that it's wholesome and happy which people said that about Aquaman too yeah it's just funny because I think Zack Snyder has put everyone in a permanent funk in the DC we're just like enough with the rain enough with the shadows this flank shot looks really wonky yeah it just doesn't look right I just the standard looks composted I don't know what it is about things anymore but it's yeah it's so we kind of mentioned this earlier at the beginning of the stream but just how much reliance there feels like there is now on just maybe market share is what I should say for characters and just like Shazam has got a huge chunk of it and why it's like well he was popped out around about the time they still had big plans for everything to work out yeah he did though he's fine he's going on adventures yeah people like him he's nice and secluded even though there's like some references here and there but uh yeah this one what is the plot that the daughters of Atlas want because they think he's stolen power or something even though he actually had it given to him by the wizard guy um yeah there's not I really don't have much to say it's like it looks very generic normal hero movie like it's not going to be anything groundbreaking or shattering I think that's the best I can hope for is that it just comes out people go yeah about that I liked it yeah and then that's that I guess you got the family dynamic right all of his family doing superhero shenanigans as well though I you gotta imagine that they still want to focus in on Shazam right so they're probably not going to be that important yeah you gotta wonder like are we going to get a lot of characterization for these guys or no I doubt it I doubt I am at especially if you've got like multiple villains as well because you got like Helen Lucy Lou like so that's that's multiple villains I guess too right and they go they all got different powers right um what looks like they're all flying though so I guess they can all fly I thought the only only um the what was his name his friend like is the the guy who was tagging along the whole time I thought only he could fly but I guess they all can I guess oh yeah yeah because I guess they figured that it's hard to justify them all getting around and going on adventures together if only two of them can fly and the rest have to walk haha rest have to run let's talk about Shazam yeah yeah what are some of your thoughts Raggle well my I am quick story mate is my sister and she was dropping some stuff off we've got a I got both my sisters are in town and one of them has a dog and one of them has a cat and both of their birthdays coincide very very close to one another so while they're in town tomorrow for lunch we're having like a birthday for the cat and the dog and all the families going over for lunch and it is cute thing that um I have a great all time as for Shazam Fury of the Gods my first note is what the fuck is even the world building in the DC EU now no idea I I just don't know the world building is that they make toys of Batman a murderer I just have no clue what's happening or what can happen is there any reason why I guess I'll have to explain why because they they directly reference like Batman and you know the Aquaman that's a flash are they not going to be so I think what they're doing is they're like probably playing very they're not saying much about the universe until they make the flash which is like the reset movie hmm based on everything that we've heard about that film it seems to be the reset movie that creates their new timeline that they want to move forward with it seems to me if you ask the people who make this is it sitting directly across from all the Saxon either movies and stuff they probably like hmm yeah you know like this very non middle I'm going to be like those movies exist and that's really swell an album yeah I'm glad that Zach had his vision and did he in a great my second note is the scale of the threat seems global and world-ending how very fresh and interesting and yet nobody else is going to show up I imagine no of course not that's my last question about oh man where are they going to be they're fighting we got Wonder Woman the flash Superman Batman Batman Aquaman Beastmaker question mark I don't know that's what the Suicide Squad all those guys yeah there I think in the trailer I assume that they had the theme in the trailer of everybody can be worthy so we'll see how that because I haven't seen Shazam but I thought that was like the lesson of Shazam one maybe they're building on it done maybe it's done again I think we've already established that being worthy is when someone whispers a spell to a magic hammer mm-hmm so it's a pretty easy I suppose and I don't have much else to say I just none of the by the way in all of these trailers none of the humor works for me not a single one never cracked a smile same as well just like I've seen the Fast and Furious movies and it's about family it's like oh my god what are we doing yeah that meme was relevant well like a year ago baby baby boy well I guess they shot the film a year ago and they're like hopefully people are still talking about family we thought that was a strong enough meme to put it in the trailer and put it in the film and put it in the trailer I suppose they put it in the trailer because it would be even older by the time the movie comes out so at least now it can be like you heard the joke the first time in the trailer that's why you don't find it funny in the movie I noticed that there were some people sitting on a park bench behind them it's like are you guys not Shazam and some lady in a bronze armor like a gold armor just chilling out over there do you not care no in this world that's totally normal you see everyone can be worthy so you just don't question it yeah I think the best thing this movie can do is just come out people go yeah that was fun and then that's it and he'll get a third movie in a couple years because it's just reliable probably because it'll probably not like it'll make it's money yeah probably be a modest someone in chat said they should have invested in Morbius memes unironically yes those were more long lived I feel than the family thing and it comes across as almost like meta in a baby well it did but they hadn't seen it yet morbentime we just went over that a guy said to Matt Smith it's morbentime and it was cringe so I don't think it's as rich an idea as you think it is morbentime that's what makes it so rich you know jokes no Thor Love and Thunder was nothing but actual jokes that's why it was so funny and hilarious from end to end we were just crying we didn't even know if those were jokes we were trying to figure it out we don't know that's how clever it is it's so double meaning wow multi-faceted writing it's tyke's speciality so yeah this is a movie I don't think it will mean much of anything for DC going forward probably not probably not not until I guess that flash movie that's when they really want to lock stuff in maybe be very careful on who they hire to play their main superheroes anybody they must be so on edge about who they even hire anymore this is like the fourth time like it's derailed oh yeah Zachary Levi nice and reliable which takes us Black Adam Black Adam what is there to say about Black Adam other than I don't their gimmick is as interesting as they think it is those oldest fuck like our hero doesn't play by the rules wow so you told me to watch two trailers you sent me the Black Adam number two before the number one which is fine my Black Adam two trailer number two I have two notes born out of rage nice and edgy and this is so generic I have nothing to say yeah and then I watched the second Black Adam trailer which for me was the first for me was the second to watch the number one and so I just wrote it in afterwards I have no commentary on it it's just the first they're the same it just feels to me like they're mocking the whole thing on the idea of what if a superhero wasn't like I ain't gonna kill nobody I'm just confused we've had that for a while a long time I don't know why that's interesting really at all it's gonna be tough for the rock to convince me without me sort of spiking that he's like this very serious very straightforward sort of character who's gonna deal with the situation as he needs to deal with it not by anyone's rule I'd be like yeah do the face do the eyebrow I saw that movie did you see the disaster movie he was in what was it called the helicopter pilot San Andreas what a film what an amazing incredible film even better so I'm way more interested we have to go in a rock arc in Pierce Brosnan's Doctor Fate just because I want to know what Doctor Fate's gonna get up to they should make a Doctor Fate movie that would have been cool especially because he's just got so much more presence since I've seen him do anything what are you up to buddy I'd rather to me that's already more interesting you want to see this dude go on adventures or do you want to see I'm not like other heroes wow he got a rocket and then it exploded and he was okay yeah I don't get the construction of a lot of stuff these days for stuff like that it's like imagine he grabs a rocket and explodes flashes everywhere that's the end what's gonna happen this film is very orange is it now this film is super orange it reminds me of if you watch the Michael Bay Transformers films everybody in those films is orange like it's so orange um it's just so orange I'm not the best part of the trilogy illustrating a point I guess it's very deserty it felt like it was very deserty it's not even that specifically it's just that's like stupid orange this half of the trailer is very blue this there we go those are the two well blue yeah put on the poster what is Doctor Fate's powers he's like he's kind of this might piss people off he's kind of like Doctor Strange he's like the magic guy it's the helm specifically I'm pretty sure it gives him like the powers but like the helm is kind of a double edged sword like it has like a consciousness of its own I believe and then he has to like contend with that Doctor Strange with Moro P oh apparently I got it right okay yeah he's about bringing balance someone said order magic I don't know what that means yeah it's all about order ordering order to the world so it's like very active the DCEU good luck yeah they're bringing in a doctor nah I don't think so it's probably well what's his role in the comics is he like a 50-50 kind of guy I think he's like he's got a sort of code in a way that he operates that should be understandable to everybody and that sometimes brings him into conflict with the heroes okay I think that's that's his nature well yeah that's the element I'm more interested in than Black Adam who like I said all I know about him is he's an angry man who says you know I'm gonna kill some people sometimes I don't know he but there's the I think each trailer had one the whole but heroes don't kill people and then there's that pause and then he says I do it's so lame so lame are we pretending as though do you imagine a hero who kills people in the DCEU we're pretending as though the first three phases of Marvel didn't have people getting killed a lot exactly just because they didn't point it out I just killed a man because I am not your dad superhero okay and it's also it seems like one of the other things that the film wants to do is establish the justice society of America like that's what they're building up here thanks we got this is Hawkman right? yeah this is Hawkman Adam Smasher as well, Cyclone people think that the whole killing thing yeah they think it's really edgy but they don't remember man race Bannon was he was plugging people in Johnny Quest way back in the 50s and 60s or whatever that show was you're not new and you're not special especially not in the DCEU I feel like it was pretty illustrative well when Iron Man lands in that area and he just fucking uppercuts a man he just that man is dead it's not like it shoots the lasers at the Sam sites blows them up see you needed some character to be like I thought heroes didn't kill people but then he's like I am Iron Man I kill people I think it's more unusual for them to have a zero tolerance of killing that is the unusual it actually stick to it like Spider-Man for instance and Batman and that's what people know about them yeah just really really odd as someone who doesn't know much of anything about Black Adam it really does feel like I'm special compared to everyone else you're like why and he's like this reason you're not a bit cringe you're an angsty anti-hero who's insanely powerful I'm being played by the rock which I'm not convinced by I'm happy to give him a shot you know just to know about that I'll have to get over that initial hump he's getting paid a lot of money for this movie I'm sure they're hoping that he will that he will help save the DCEU yeah I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel asked him to turn up as something do you think there's an idea if we can't do that because people might get confused maybe and also just time and scheduling you want somebody who's going to be available yeah but he's just such a he's a box office drawer right so you want to grab all those types knowing that you got Lucy Lu and Helen Mirren it's just like oh yeah it's just like eventually every actor you've ever known they will turn up in either DC or Marvel that's just this one highlighted doomer says phase 5 better have more Shang-Chi in Black Widow I'm curious why you said that I think because he doesn't think those movies are good and he is being sarcasm then again it will definitely have more of both of those characters because Yelena in Black Widow I say adopt she was a Black Widow so I don't know whatever I'm sure there will be a part in this film where he's like I'm so evil and edgy and then someone is like I'm inspired by you and he's like oh my god I'm conflicted but I'm more of a people they don't get back up when I blow up stuff look at this as well this shot so it's blown up behind but he's just like I even looking it's just like come on we've made fun of this for the past decade he's like really close to it but whatever it's fine it would be cool to look at the explosion yeah why not appreciate your work assuming that is his work I don't know so yeah excitement through the roof of Black Adam don't wait I was waiting for anybody to say they wouldn't but it seems like everyone's in agreement yeah Black Adam alright I can't wait till he goes and punches the like that's it for DC it's like it's all Shazam stuff yeah what the fuck is going on guys like what's happened to everything else and it's just like wait we haven't we haven't figured it out well because I still got Aquaman too and Flash and Batgirl yeah what's going on with him we'll find out eventually I don't know and so yeah we talked about Marvel stuff for like a million years because there's a bazillion things DC that's it we'll talk about it more it's funny because people are like are you continuing the DC arc or not it's like we are still nowhere near falling behind it don't worry catching up quote-unquote with the DC arc would take a very quick amount of time meme is currently helping me with something else so don't you worry the DC arc will continue it's a hilarious little series to look at because it's like Marvel's you know falling the fuck apart but DC is this one that's like it was just falling apart from the get-go and it's just constantly hobbling along and you're just like look at him go what is he gonna do next there's some guy following behind it picking up all the pieces and trying to serve them back on like to the actually serve them back on to the train he's got a needle it's like this is all you got no hammer no nails thread them back on he's trying as an artist like he finally gets it on then the engine falls out and he's like what really so next up will be the next thing in line for the old star war which would be andor which is what end of next month is like a month from now yeah some like that you know the little series that's been made fun of ever since it was announced because it's just like Harkness like who the fuck asked for this however once you were delivered things that you may have asked for like Kenobi or maybe even Boba Fett or maybe even Mandalorian season 2 plenty of people would have asked for that you realize like man let's check out some stuff we didn't ask for let's see how that looks and I would go as far as saying andor from the trailer looks like the best of all the shows visually already yeah that's one of my notes is it looks very expensive looks very good essentially I'm pretty sure it is very expensive right like this thing is this the most they're spending on a show I want to say yes but I don't know Mando was like 100 million right yes but isn't part of what was going to make andor really expensive too is that that and this has been going now for a really long time right like production it's been in production for a while yeah this longer takes to get it out you know the more money it ends up costing in a lot of ways right for investments and returns and different people in different smoky rooms being like hey where's the show you promise dish put it out all of the the slaves in the CGI basements we're whipping them as hard as we can it will be done I promise what is this about build up to Rogue One I think is the idea with the show right which is interesting because that's like supposed to be a thing to go before a new hope so maybe they'll make a thing to go before this too maybe everyone's favorite character Cassian andor will be fleshed out presumably hopefully he goes to Tatooine yeah I hope he goes to the cantina and listens to the music so this is part of the hope for Andor is that it seems like the show that has the most potential to not get involved with all of the regular Star Wars stuff instead and I say that as if I don't want what I do want is to be in the Star Wars world just not with very specific things like oh look it's Yoda oh look it's it's a galaxy yeah like a galaxy seeing shots of just a civilization on a planet that I don't recognize it's like oh cool Star Wars stuff in the way that I want to see it hooray a new place I think we felt that way when we were watching the trailer for Kenobi we were just like oh look it's like a carousel type place we were excited to go to Halo in Mandalorian or was that the Boba Fett that was Boba Fett that was Boba Fett but at the same time we had more approval at that moment yeah that was like the best 5 minutes of Star Wars content in years yeah this looks like it's going to be regarding empire times obviously but like what I mean by that is actual like we're seeing the empire rule will be involved in their little board meetings which I'm like that could be interesting it could be I highly based off the track record that we have I think that one of my notes is this that just I think the empire will just sort of be portrayed as cartoonishly evil for no purpose or goal without any people behind it it's all just cartoonishly evil villainry and they'll be extremely incompetent at doing everything they do and they're not ever going to explore any of this in any meaningful way it'll just be kind of it seems like there's a lot of empire POV shots that seems about the empire or empire offices and stuff that makes me wonder like this is kind of the thing and or is like the one that I'm looking at going as opposed to yeah it didn't used to be like that for a while I didn't care at all about and or but I have to how horrible everything's been and then you see this trailer it's like that's not bad maybe the people who made this which are very much different than the people who made Kenobi Boba Ferry we could have a chance here for a story could be you know I feel like there's more chance here than there was there will be for like Mando season 3 which people are already going through the roof fucking hype over which is like god damn it guys once again cause the trailer for that isn't out out yet is it no it was shown and I've seen the flimpy version of it and there's already plenty of cameos from people we know from like fucking Mando season 2 and 1 great yeah and it's just like yes can be the same shit every time great list of characters they're also wonderful I care about all of them but you know this show is how long is the show I think it's 12 13 episodes I think or 12 14 yeah so that's I know how this sounds that's a good sign cause that's long enough that it feels like it makes me feel like it's that long because they they had stuff to put in there not because they were forced to be that long like 6 episodes for Kenobi it's just like so fucking obvious you were a movie that was stretched into as much as they could possibly muster but this and it took everybody a month to figure that out and it still felt and it felt empty vapid wandering in meandery hopefully this means that they actually do have a sort of story they could tell yeah how many episodes do you need 13 or so alright that's actually like a potentially this could be something interesting however I wait until that happens because I just have no confidence whatsoever in Star Wars as Thunder just mentioned 24 episodes for Adder what the fuck is the most obscure character ever it's like yep here you go two seasons off you go it's like what that's right yeah it's crazy I don't know how these decisions get made or why it's so bizarre the fact that Obi-Wan and Boba Fett get thrown in the trash while they focus like what if this show is good I'll be like why what you walked over Boba Fett and Obi-Wan for Andor who's like why wouldn't you put all the eggs in the Kenobi basket why would you put them in the Andor basket 24 episodes imagine they had confirmed that for Obi-Wan to be fair we probably like Jesus Christ what the fuck is he gonna get up to in 24 episodes oh my god but I mean you know just go on a tour of the galaxy oh yeah because it looks like there's they're gonna try and go for some political intrigue maybe with this as well but there's some lady character who's maybe empire adjacent but rebel affiliated is it Lara from Kenobi was she in this trailer or am I just no I don't think so hmm well could she be dead by now oh is this happen this happens after I think five years before a new hope before road one wow once at the same time but yeah all right I'll look oh yeah of course Stella Skarsgård's in this I was like yeah yeah look at you I wonder what you'll be up to how will they ruin you the fact that we know that someone can act is in this okay that's something it's true I mean even McGregor can act but and he did you did yeah times two parts and it made me sad maybe very very sad so yeah visually this thing looks like the most expensive of all the Disney Star Wars stuff outside of the movies yeah and we've got a longer story and it's based on stuff that's not it's not as rigid you can do whatever you want with Cassie and and or really nobody's gonna care so maybe that kind of freedom will be just what they need to make something that we can go you know chat that wasn't shit wasn't shit but I wouldn't be surprised if you ever do anything unsafe with Boba Fett look how that turned out yeah um but I wouldn't be surprised if we watched like episode one we're like that was okay then episode two like oof rickety then episode three like oh we've been down this road yeah it is a familiar path we've tread but I will be interested to check this out what are you guys interest levels at I'm interested I'm interested we'll give it a shot we'll give it a chance chat how you feeling about and or because like part of what I find amusing about this is that it was forever considered something to ignore avoid but I think like I said just because how bad everything is it could be the this one isn't cringe I don't know you like the setting interested skipping skipping no why bother zero pass don't care I feel nothing anyone else wouldn't see it too late but I am curious I am bored odd nope meh wait how many of you would check it out if we said we fully recommend it out of curiosity yeah yeah we came back after two episodes and said hey there these are actually pretty darn good they're worth the watch this is the kind of Star Wars content we've been asking for actually asking for for years now I finally decided to do it I'd watch you watch it we may have something like that set up this is the thing I don't know if I'd want to recommend the show until I see the full season just so that I'm not like tricked or some bullshit happens or it's just like ruins everything I don't even know I'm saying this is all as though this will be in any way like good but yeah we'll see we will see because I'm I'm curious I want to see what the most expensive Disney show has to actually give me yeah which takes us over to a different IP one that we barely discussed at all in terms of new things I know a lot of people want to know what we think about all of this stuff good ol lord of the rings the rings of power the faded television show that basically everybody's already written off as like this will be shit it doesn't help it's surrounded by a matter of everybody promoting it in ways that are just frustrating or vapid or anti-token insanely commercialized the soul has been completely ripped out of it this is product this is skinwalker product yeah it's just the bill of everything else this happens to lord of the rings is next and it's just what's neat about this the first time it seems that the fanbase is like okay you've touched you got your sticky fingers on everything you haven't touched the lord of the rings cake that is beautiful stay away from it you're over there being special stay away stay away from the third age stay away from the things that we like that is a well-maintained pile of helmets that's my first note my first note is a massive pile of helmets out here why to make it that rounded like that takes some time someone really felt passionate about making sure that if that thing is helmets through and through why did you pile them here that's actually why would anyone take the time to do that with just helmets was there a these are dead soldiers would you not like and look there's no like battle it's just maybe it's a vision maybe it's a vision forest and this massive insane pile of helmets and like I guess some bad happened some bad yeah well maybe it's a ritual thing everyone has to toss the helmet over there whatever they die which then you have to go get yours and you're like oh this is a small I need a medium I my second note is you can't put a boat in the water you have to CGI it well to be fair they've only got a huge budget so what do you expect like they can pay more CG people because I'm like man I so much of what makes the Lord of the Rings timeless is that it's practical I mean Lord of the Rings was more thoughtful in its use of CGI because it uses plenty of oh yeah it's just yes it doesn't lean on it too heavily it's like yeah we're gonna make chainmail we're gonna give all this armor we're gonna make these sets we're gonna go to these places we're gonna have all these props and these is this the one that has the t-shirt like armor t-shirt oh yeah the scale if I can find it sure but like that's one of the things people were favorably comparing House of the Dragon with this House of the Dragon looks like they took more care but who knows at this point until we did a good look well hey a lot of CG artists would have been paid so that's a decent chunk of budget gone it's such a I'm almost more interested in like the matter of this event than the thing itself just because of what this represents like it's it's the first of the ruination that will probably happen of Lord the Rings the first because you know like Star Wars is this it's hard to say like oh yeah I love Star Wars when the vast majority of Star Wars is not the OT yeah but what are you referring to with Lord the Rings most people will be thinking about Peter Jackson's trilogy a shit ton think about the books this is the first like the Hobbit kind of is there people aren't upset at the Hobbit they're just like yeah the Hobbit movies happened whatever they will their reputation will go up when this comes out I guarantee it yeah of course I will perhaps we judged you too harshly little Bilba those memes are probably being written right now ahead of time ready to just like post on day one so yeah you know this will happen and then they're planning five seasons of this shit right yes they've already planned out five seasons yeah by the time if the fifth one really does roll out like we should be like how fucking go away and then you know who knows what else they'll try imagine they like they try to fucking remake Lord the Rings trilogy or something that would be like the worst ever decision the sun's on the left and the shadows are on the left it's a vision I'll be my answer for anything like Hobbits it's just strange well for me it's strange it's just Letty Henry I've known him forever it's just like this sort of stand up and sketch comedian I'm just like why letty Henry but okay um yeah obviously there's gonna be all kind of like I don't even know what the plot of this thing is gonna be but apparently if I wanted to know I could have found out most of it by now a lot of it is leaked in some ways and others I I don't know how to how to properly explain my stake in all of this it's like I said I see it as I'm hoping it's the one that doesn't get to get away with it basically you don't get to shit all over a thing and just keep going there's gonna be enough fan outcry this time that's that's all I hope comes from this it'll be Amazon's big million gazillion dollar gamble that did not pay off TLJ Game of Thrones season 8 those are the two big ones that happened I'm hoping this is like another one where we all get to instead of fucking around and being like no actually Multivism is a great film we can actually be like yeah that was very bad and we don't appreciate that don't do that could you give a shit next time please could you care not just throw money at things and pander going from you know like downvotes and shit on like the trailers and commentary and all the people spamming quotes from talking about what evil is it's really got like a mainstream negative response which is not common for like a project like this which is I guess that in and of itself is kind of interesting yeah I think the rest of the people should have the same thing as well like a wide-scale broad negative reaction yeah so here's the part of the trailer that's probably most frustrating actually dare to dare to fucking write his name well so one of the weirdest parts is that they're launching the show on the day of his death I know it's so what is that that's an uncanny coincidence if doesn't it feel like that can't be a coincidence and then if it's not a coincidence why would they do that and it's just like just seems rude surely they know that and if it's not a coincidence cause they could like they know well cause they would know it's that bad yeah if I were a part of the trailer I'd be like oh guys don't do that if we just like push it back a day literally a day you could set it on his birthday that might be a little bit more it feels more celebratory the day of his death rings of power it's over a new age has begun the past is dead what did he say so in this cause the one everyone always wants to connect it to is let the past die kill it if you have to from Kylo one of these trailers has him say something like you have to move on from the past so you'll die with it or something like that just like fuck off this thing is really hard no I have chosen death yes really hard not to read into lines like that you're like why would you you chose to put that in the trailer really hmm they need to make a two towers remake that's the two corporations and it's amazon and disney and they're two evil black is one with a smile on it and the other with a mouse the little mouse is here there's like two eyes at it cause yeah this isn't going to help amazons rep not the it's doing great anyway like for amazon prime specifically all of their shows and stuff Jeff Bezos was really like passionate about getting to make a lord of the ring show for like amazon prime yeah but wasn't the passion behind it he's had a quote where it was like we need our game of thrones oh I'm sure I'm sure that there is that right for like the attitude of we need something that'll be people want to be on prime and watch prime stuff if Jeff Bezos really said we need our game of thrones then that sounds like a bit of a monkey's paw wish right there is like you very well might just get your game of thrones oh yeah except it's all season 8 for you oh yeah so this this guy there was there was the assumption especially with the way the trailer shot that this is Sauron but Gary several others said it's definitely not Sauron from their information this this is someone else person doesn't exactly look super intimidating though when they're clearly like the way the trailer goes this is a villainous character gonna be our bad guy maybe I don't know interesting to cast M&M it's a radical choice but not one that you know it takes place in the star wars universe there's no rails oh go back this struck me as odd I almost made a comment on it where the two dwarves are talking and it cuts away for just a moment at this yeah this guy on the left his reaction they kept that in and I'm like that's weird that you kept that in it just seems like this he's just like oh I'm gonna tell that joke again it's really weird as well you know it's the whole um you have Galadriel and then the way they say it and this is Galadriel a lot of weird pronunciation what's going on here and there just just it's it's mostly something that will probably be fine um ultimately but I worry about uh how anything out of step will just immediately be like then uh hey I'll say that about Baalboo Baguines well look if they pronounced like Dexter that's Dexter Jets does name wrong if you were to return I would be outraged Derek Jeter uh yeah is this the trailer where the dialogue exchange was uh you have not seen what I have seen I have seen stuff yes but you have not seen what I have seen well what is that that was like a dramatic moment in the trailer as well yeah we're gonna be here all day talking about the music even cut out to emphasize that it's like this conversation is kind of weird um I have a note here that says it seems like it's trying too hard to be cinematic and grand like its presentation is getting in the way of what it actually is because at the same time it still comes across as extremely generic fantasy yeah and the um I just feel like it doesn't have an identity to it it feels like there's going to be an infection of the meta knowledge being that Sauron will be treated as though we know about his future uh and his effects in Lord of the Rings meanwhile like the I don't know that uh I'm already thrown by like how how this this this this is kind of like the Sauron prequel and it's like uh-huh the guy you like from the other stuff yep oh no she's in the closet not in this show um so yeah I this this is one where um I probably would be on board with it with it if everyone was like let's all skip it stay away from it it's weird because there's a part of me that I feel like it's big that I kind I almost have this like I need to see it I need to know when I say let's all I'm referring to like everybody that is involved with like sort of media commentary as a sort of like boycott but I think that the the option to opt for is to be like no watch it dissect it and talk about what they've done be it good or bad uh I feel like it will be weighed in one particular direction uh discover the legend discover the legend it's so fucking like this is like a mobile game ad yeah discover the legend warriors of Corphe Real colon the reckoning that forged the rings fries you might you ain't ever gonna be able to get to their heights that trilogy is done and it's done forever it's in stone no one can fuck with it we know the opening the opening uh theme is music the opening music of Lord of the Rings was I think was all foundations of stone I'm not sure though maybe that was the opening of two towers not sure I gotta go back and double check I wonder that's another big parrot oh he's gone oh he's back we're good but that's another big pair of shoes that this show has to fill is the music yeah good luck like really good luck fucking else this is the same right you don't understand so much shit coming out all at once yeah that's pretty close actually wait does I mean and or she Hulk and rings of power all gonna be the same time seems that way good god yeah not really fair isn't the cruel um to make us watch all these things also yeah I don't know you guys but it's about wrong I just I think I think he looks worse than he does and yeah the original trilogy but that could be my hyper bias I don't know I'd have to looks I mean looks good but that's the Balrog yep that's him so it's done like in the same fucking way as uh you know any any cameo like a character cameo just like you like the Balrog yeah yeah yes we do do we need the Balrog back story why is he so angry why is he living in Moria why does he really hate wizards we'll see legend before he was his ruin was smote upon the mountain site we are we are we spend much more time talking about the thing itself than the things around it how it's promoted or what things have been leaked like we still talk about that stuff but we just do it really compared so you know we'll wait for this to come out have a little look see and let you guys know what what we think of it not looking forward to it I'm sure it'll be great no ma it'll be great it'll be very diverse and they're going to have all of the action that you could ever ask for and Galadriel is going to kick some serious butt she's going to show them what she's going to do great so don't you worry which brings us to our next fantasy thing this one I guess I'm curious what what what thoughts even we had by the two of you with this no house of the dragon absolutely I got nothing really I have very little I thought the Targaryens were white I think that's getting changed for this now the I wouldn't be able to cite you specifics but I'm pretty sure yeah the Targaryens are supposed to be all white my limited knowledge of Game of Thrones which is very limited that is just something I recall seeing alright next note is really the only substantive note I have is I imagine any actual political intrigue and good writing will be terrible since writing that sort of multi-layered drama is likely quite difficult um this is a show that requires very good writers and this kind of thing the thing that people are declaring it already is on the comments this is a really really difficult thing to write there's a lot of characters interacting with a lot of characters and there's rules and systems and you have to have the logistics of how things happen it's a lot to juggle really if your show is going to press that is a big thing can you do it? probably not so that's actually pretty much all I've got to say about this as well it seems like this trailer is about as good as it can be they're offering you that there's going to be all kinds of political intrigue backstabbing and succession and throne dealings with some fun fantasy of dragons involved and backstabbing and stuff it's like all the things you like from what you liked in Game of Thrones like yeah you're going to have to prove yourself show you have to have someone write this shit that's competent I really have no problem with the trailer it's fine I have the other two things I have stop saying iron throne and I don't care hey but that's like the whole appeal okay I know but they say iron throne a lot I just stop saying that stop saying iron throne come up with another title for it so you don't have to keep saying iron throne iron throne yes I know it's yeah we get it it's interesting that it is interesting that like Game of Thrones is just in terms of mainstream relevance is like lost so much of it but still something right it's still something it's just it's interesting that's all something so popular when did they decide to make the show was it before season 8 was finished or afterwards yeah there was at one point there was like five different potential ideas and there's this mysterious pilot that got made for a different show that got axed completely that cost like a shit ton Naomi Watts was like the main character or something it would be fun to know what happened with that but yeah oh they made Fringy Gollum yeah the little green gollum Fringy likes this how's the dragon don't care yeah I don't care either but I'll pass I think this is one I'm not going to watch until a couple of episodes are out and people have said it's good okay and I'll just update you guys with like I was would you really want to do that would you really then again I guess I didn't want to watch 12 trailers before this EFAT but here we are so like I'll do it for the people I mean I'm interested in Matt Smith it's always nice to see him around see what he's up to yeah I noticed him in there hopefully he can move past Morbius hopefully he can move past Morbius people asking about that I'll try to talk about his David Rhodes show whoever sits on the iron throne can they morb the hardest I'll have to see then I'll call dragons they're called morpins I would even say this trailer tries to bank on him quite a bit obviously they've hired him for his star power but it's kind of interesting because I'm not even sure what pushed him to star power if you discounted Doctor Who which I know you shouldn't it's just that was there anything else that sort of made people do it I mean coming out of Genesis was like a pretty great role for him you know wasn't he in like Downton Abbey or some was it some other thing the royals or something something to do with something like that I think he was in like a show for that obviously he's famous for Morbius as well yeah oh the crown is that what he was in maybe that helped out too to him in Genesis yeah I really have nothing much else to say and we'll shall see what happens when this thing comes out it's got a lot to prove because people are still pretty upset with the last time they saw stuff to do with this which uh yeah that gets us to Dungeons & Dragons which I had no idea was even the thing wait did you skip over John Wick 4 did you skip over John Wick 4 no oh okay I was just curious if you're going into I had to get up for a second I just wanted to make sure Dungeons & Dragons yeah I figured to put these three together because fantasy that makes sense yeah let's double check them which again I think I did mention it indeed kind of neat that such high budget actor filled things are being made for fantasy it's just that will any of them be good you know my first comment here is it's the quote here's the thing we're a team of thieves my comment is and I already know the vibe of this trailer yeah edit I was right yeah it's it feels like tongue in cheek we're going to have some fun but maybe some serious things may happen nothing serious will happen someone will probably die albeit risk of dying at one point and for a few seconds it'll be serious mild like it's mild apparel I mean it's funny enough because I'm completely disconnected from Dungeons & Dragons but like the idea of the team of thieves steal a thing to give it to someone else and that thing should never have gone to that person and now horrible things are happening I was like that's it I could be a campaign it just seems that because I have rock music which I'm like this is my other thing is this is going to be magic bullshit the movie yes I have any let me scroll my back any potential cool stuff will be drowned out by chaos and insanity on the screen yeah it's going to be a lot of things that look oh wow isn't that crazy it's going to be drowned out by all of the other crazy shit that's happening and it's all just going to be chaos nonsense this shot right here just makes me think like how many fucking cities and worlds get designed every single day by everyone all over the world for all these different projects it's just infinitely for everything as well no even just cities obviously like preachers and vehicles weapons every single day there's probably thousands getting churned out by everyone all over the world working hard hopefully they get paid because remember like when you see like behind the scenes stuff concept for even someone just like general grievous and you'll see like there's like a hundred different versions and you're like man all that's just like lost to time pretty much hopefully it's put in some book somewhere you know and sold yeah it's called some great yard of what could have been so then the the dragon turns up and spews tower and everybody that was mean that was mean it flies away yeah because I'm just not into D&D at all so this funnily enough a lot of people get thinking about the jeremy irons movie like almost right away and it's just like I think they've made several shit movies after that so don't worry but uh what's interesting is that D&D is now in a place where it wasn't back then it's become kind of mainstream D&D is the thing that's got a lot of popularity to it there's a great deal of like it's it's a very strong presence in popular culture and instead of this it doesn't seem like it's leaning heavy into that idea it's just it just seems like it seems like action generic fantasy yeah if this doesn't seem to have like it has any sort of an identity to it it's just funny as well because you assume it's like well this is big a budget right so the script it's like no don't bet anything on that no we don't no yeah it's a whole shit well you're gonna get a nice spider crawling up a tree there you go you're gonna get a some good CGI and some crazy Chris Pine and Michelle Rodriguez because I guess they were interested in doing a D&D movie I will say I enjoy him in pretty much everything he's in so he's got charisma so maybe maybe he'll be worth it alone but yeah I just I don't think D&D fans are at all like watching this trailer and thinking oh yeah it's more so like um mmm seriously though I hadn't heard of this shit at all was this like known neither right I didn't know this was happening I only heard it because someone that I watch casually who talks about uh tabletop role-playing games he was told to watch it and he said wow this is shit yeah I wouldn't do that would surprise me at all that a D&D fan would think this is awful there's probably loads of shit in here that's all wrong because the core of what a D&D campaign and this goes for Pathfinder and all the other ones is that you generally will have your players three, four, maybe five players who have a character and they sort of have a mission to do they have a thing to do and it centers around how are you going to go about doing that how are you going to get all the clues how are you going to fight the battles what you know what will your character do what will your class do you each bring something to your team's arsenal of abilities and stuff you have your stats and you try and work within your stats like see this the door that looks neat that's like that could be a cool spell where you like fall into the ground and then you appear somewhere else things like that are just it's not going to matter no it doesn't seem like it has a D&D identity to it because D&D is a thing I'm saying it too much that sounds bad but it kind of has a structure and a sort of formula in this I don't know if this doesn't give me that vibe of what it is players going on this campaign or this mission yeah it just feels like it will be random magic will just stuff it's just going to be things will be magic yeah the acting will probably be fine throughout and chris prine pine will be charismatic and it will cost a lot of money and it will probably lose money probably yeah I don't know if there's much it seems like it seems like an expensive project that probably isn't going to have that much reach yeah I don't see what about this like ooh look a mimic is like yeah you're not going to go see the movie because of that you know it doesn't have that I don't know someone who likes these kinds of games there's nothing about this that says this is that kind of game you're grunting it oh nice you know he's uh you'll pull in them people to watch it right maybe yeah I don't know this came out of nowhere it's just like oh okay if you if you want to you go right ahead I guess you know one thing I thought they were going to do was he at chris pines got his little talky talky over isn't this a quirky fun adventure we're having and he said we're going to need some things strength and then he shows a guy or whatever and then I thought he would do like like intelligence charisma wisdom dexterity like he would do all the stats that your characters have and each of the characters would kind of be like someone really big on that stat so for agility you'd have like the rogue who's jumping around and doing stuff and for intelligence you'd have the bookworm or the scholar whatever wisdom you'd have an old sorcerer man for charisma you'd have the bard who's smooth talking and can get him in and out you know that's what I thought they were going to do is like oh this is this is fun they're really leaning into the game and then they're like no they just do something else I'm like oh fuck that yeah I hate knowing exactly what a trailer is going to be in the first five seconds and I'm like oh this is as bad as I thought it'd be no one's going to see this and it's going to lose money and maybe I'll be wrong but it's like a trailer made to be forgotten as well yeah this doesn't have any identity there's so much shit happening like how can you latch on to anything this foam is not going to be one that breathes it's going to be it's going to try to be super funny and it's not going to be there's going to be nothing funny about this because they clearly are trying for that angle it's going to be funny in this and it's just going to it's going to be a wisp of smoke and it's just going to dissipate it will be empty vapors it will be but a dream no one will remember all of the CGI artists and their dungeons and dragons getting the rations for doing all of this stuff I mean dungeons and dragons does sum up the CG experience doesn't it sit in the dungeon anime dragon that's about it so yeah that's the coverage of that um leaving only one more uh and the one that I have to like controversially sit in loads of conversations where everyone's like yeah John Wick 4 I'm just like um okay so here it is yeah for those who are not familiar with our takes on this John Wick 1 fucking great cool liked it nice oh no no this is bad you got a bad case of sequelitis you're trying to regenerate a story cause you haven't got one to tell and you accentuate a lot of elements so the character with a lot more grounded now he's like a lot more of a superhero and uh and you're really leaning into just isn't it fun when we shoot people and he reloads and then shoots them again or punches them and then jumps into them and reloads while he's like shoots them and and also all of that is worse too yeah they just everything just keeps getting worse um John Wick 2 was really bad and frustrating John Wick 3 was really bad and frustrating and uh John Wick 4 it's just the same like this trailer is just like yep so expect the same we got a bunch of new people that you like who are famous for doing some action shit in other movies he's gonna fight and kill them I guess like yep that's what we do yeah yeah and that'll be that um he's not gonna deliver it well he's not gonna deliver the one good actor we just have to I think everyone's on board with that now you know we throw in the cab oh he's such a great guy he's like absolutely absolutely he's a gem of a human being I hope he lives a long and fruitful life it'll be a sad dark day when he passes away he's not a good actor um I have three notes for John Wick 4 um the first one is Arrow Lady should be dead that makes no sense I'm sad that we're seeing shit like that already like like oh look these are the ones she fights with a bow and arrow close combat like what the that's there's a reason the people don't do that it was like okay so she dies alright like okay yeah instantly like the first little action bit it was like this is dumb this is so stupid that's not what John Wick want with John Wick one wasn't stupid they put a lot of work and effort in this part here yeah that guy like what are those guys on the right doing they're doing that thing that stormtroopers have to do where it's like oh act like you're totally incapacitated um my second note is uh is about the sword in the gun clip when John Wick and that other guy had a sword in one hand and a gun in the other and they were shooting at each other often many many many times this one here yeah I think yeah it's this one and they shoot each other many many many times but they don't hit each other well because they're wearing the bulletproof suits ranks it doesn't matter if they hit each other I fucking hate the god damn bulletproof suit that's why they put their arms up so you can't can't get it I hate it it's like these assassins aren't even good at their fucking jobs they just use incredible sci-fi tech that makes it so they can't be killed well yeah because why we're putting you like the bullet would just move you know what I mean like if you put your hand up it's like if I hold a blanket that's bulletproof like the blanket will just fly up in the bullet will go straight you know like if I wear the bulletproof blanket it's like batwoman we talked about this in batwoman with her bulletproof cape if I have a blanket that's legitimately bulletproof and I put it over me and I have someone shoot me I'm gonna have a horrific day I'm it's like someone's hitting me with a hammer over and over and over again that blanket's not helping much is the implication here that he actually manages to block a bullet or two with his sword are they actually doing the dead pool thing but for real they're on the backhand so they're getting double damage double double defense against the bullet and it's like John Wick's whole thing was how efficient he was in John Wick 1 he was headshotting everybody so it doesn't matter if he has a suit or not shoot him in the head you're John Wick that's what you do or it's what you used to do so what we're specifically referring to is what Rags just went through like there's no impact anymore the bullets just stop existing the second they hit the suits in these they don't work they can't work as much as they would like them to as I think everybody knows right if somebody wears a bulletproof vest and gets shot they're still gonna be really hurt yeah I've always appreciated it definitely depends it's like if you wear sorry I don't mean to you're going to know cause you have soft body armor and hard body armor but if you're wearing just like clothes and you tell me it's bulletproof but that's all it does like it'll stop the bullet from penetrating the actual material I'm like okay I'll buy it but when you get hit by that you're gonna be just like this massive this massive amount of energy in a small area just got pinpoint this supersonic piece of metal slammed into your body good it didn't go through it it's not gonna cut through your body but you are gonna be on the ground having a horrible you're gonna be incapacitated it's what's gonna happen it's like people have accepted now that's just yeah that's the John Wick thing it's like watch the first one you didn't need a fucking bulletproof suit cause he was really good at his job that was the point but now he can like fuck up completely and it doesn't matter because there you go Lawrence Fishman's like hey buddy I've got your new bulletproof suit and you might be like why are you complaining about that cause that's mainly gonna be the movie that's all it is the story will be shit it always is except again for the first one having a lot of potential the story they were telling but it's mainly just to connect a bunch of action scenes and the action scenes are gonna be reliant on John just not being able to be hurt or if he is it's always just temporary then he goes to some doctor person and it's all fine I cannot fucking believe there are four John Wick movies absolutely fucking insane they should have stopped at one but there we are in the vein of what we were talking about my third and final comment is a little thing I wrote down I worry that they'll try to overdo the melee combat in strange niche weapons for the sake of variety when it would make no sense whatsoever yeah I think that is absolutely where that almost I think they think that that's what they're supposed to do at this point like we gotta find new ways to have people kill each other if you're an assassin in this world and you have X amount of hours in your day to practice and get proficient you're going to do that with a gun you're gonna do that with something that's already such a huge force multiplier that you don't have to learn swordsmanship or like rely on the other person having a sword or something because somebody is pointing at you with a gun and you're dead and all that sword fighting is going to count for nothing it's it's I oh and that's somewhat bad shit he is shot while wearing his bullet proof regular vest in the first one and it hurts like yeah because that's what I mean the first one is the first one is weirdly grounded compared to the second and third they just go off the rails like look he's got a nun chuck here you haven't seen him use one of them before excited just like okay sure because that's what it is and I hope people are really going to be honest about this eventually where it's like nobody actually cares about John Wick as a character or a story they just want to see him kill people and you might be like well why do you watch James Bond isn't the same thing, Ethan Hunt isn't that the same thing I think there's a lot more meaningful shit going on in those than John Wick has going on right now exactly and there's no reason why you can't have meaningful shit going on but they just keep on going everything gets extended and expanded this world is way bigger than you ever thought there's way more people you've never heard of that are most important players in this universe and he's going to kill every one of them okay I do not know if metal has any intentions to go over this film with more than a forge but I'm sure he's got his eyes on it he's essentially our John Wick person at this point if we've all got a John Wick person no time to die was very meaningful well that's the thing I thought that movie was shit but I don't know that doesn't mean like Fallout was great and hopefully that next mission impossible is great nope so and that about does it yep thank you so much for this trailer medley then you all got to listen to all of our thoughts on upcoming things as you can see judging from the way everything was timed up we're forever sad but still keeping an eye on the MCU a lot of a lot of fleams to do with that you know what's that thinking about it DC is more of a joke to us like you think like isn't the MCU a joke it's like well it's more sad that the MCU we're constantly sad about how everything's gone but DC we were never really you know what was the good DC film it's like where we thought it might have been Wonder Woman or Madden of Steel yeah that did so we've got no base light at all but uh just keeping an eye on it and then yeah the rest of the stuff is just a lot of new things coming out gradually and so what you can expect is that there may be minis for Andor there may be minis for She-Hulk there may not be anything for either of them there may be coverage of all different kinds of things like some of the stuff you saw today I could imagine we'd do any Fathom John Wick 4 depending on if you guys are up for seeing it um it could be one yeah I doubt we'll have any coverage of the first three the Dungeons and Dragons movie maybe in conjunction with the Dungeons and Dragons arc because there's loads of those films and apparently they're all horrible the point is we ain't promising shit with this stuff I don't know how everything's gonna roll out um but we are getting very this is episode 1 1.96 now for us this is 1.96 7.89 hey we're getting close to quite a benchmark number I'd say so for those who are unaware 27th that's when that's happening we'll end up covering another just crazy crazy day by the time we hit that there won't be any episodes of Amdor out or Rings of Power but they might be going for She-Hulk right yeah I think so so we might have a little a little talk you have a title Mauler what are you talking about that is in the title oh yeah but I couldn't it wasn't on my screen okay I can't just read whatever I want whenever I want I'll be nuts um but yeah I don't know that needs to look forward to right that's the theme of the trailers we just watched through is there literally anything that you're like oh yeah someone did mention it's like nothing for games it's like well it's going I'm like a list of protocols that'll probably be cool yeah you got Ragnarok right that's what you're yeah I'll be definitely interested in that's not even that long from now right no I think it's October hmm oh and October will mean is it full of how special we'll be out this year I think so we'll need it as precious fucking oasis in this sea in this desert of crap it's not sand it's poo is there anything gore coming up to the oasis except Mike Flanagan will say it's great until the ending and we'll say that's fine that's fine yeah well give me everything you have to give yeah hopefully that comes out plenty of fun things will happen around Halloween time as well you know um at least there's a Zootopia spin off coming yeah there you go I have no idea I have not seen Zootopia if you can believe it um I think I have not in a while yeah I have so well I suppose what we'll do now is have a look see the messages that have come in while we've been talking about all these things see what the crowd have to say about all these wonderful projects yeah let's take a look bells I'm gonna go ahead and guess they were about as excited as we were if not less I have been floating for 10 minutes this must be a reference to how I somehow managed to say that the episode was on the way before actually going live never again shall I do that what a horrible mistake I don't actually mind doing it really also high rags hello wings quote of the day I really wanted to get that surgery man I wanted it so fucking bad dog whimpers that's the most famous quote I know that one that's top tears one of the best ones ever it's a very emotional thing it's very emotional you get a deep dive highlight from the recent Fringy stream imagine how cringe it would be if Shadow the Hedgehog's dad was called Doom wait he is yeah I joked that um we're talking about like how names in context and out of context they can be different levels of cringe or different levels of cool and I said like Doctor Doom evokes quite a cool thing for a lot of people but if with zero context I'm pretty sure we all talk about how lame that name is like because it's more so the character we think of if we're praising it and I said like it sounds like something you'd name like Shadow's dad turns out Shadow's dad surname is Doom so that's hilarious and I'm very glad that they chose the correct surname for when they were writing who his dad would be um he has the yeah his name is Black Doom the creator and biological father his brother is oh I wasn't prepared I wasn't prepared alright we've established that Shadow Shadow's father is Black Doom his brother it's in quotes his brother he clips the Darkling oh my god stop it why can't he just have a little brother called Dave heaven you see Shadow the Hedgehog is the end result of Project Shadow an effort to create the ultimate life form ultimate life form is in capital letters of course it is ultimate life form beautiful let's read you the next sentence created by Professor Gerald see god forbid a normal name Professor Gerald in his efforts to find a cure to a rare disease known as NIDS in IDS that was affecting his granddaughter Maria Robotnik Shadow was gifted Robotnik Shadow was gifted with the powers of the alien Black Doom through that entity's blood after the project was forcibly shut down by the government shut this you make it hedgehogs you make it ultimate hedgehog stop it we're cutting the funding you can't cut my funding back to formula after the project was forcibly shut down by the government Shadow was put into stasis for 50 years and then awakened by Dr. Eggman Gerald's grandson to help him take over the world neat Moeller Noah Caldwell-Gervais made a 4 hour video about From Software games it's horrific, please do some kind of response he needs to be stopped 4 hours I don't think I got stuff I gotta do he's welcome to have silly opinions we should all be allowed silly opinions yeah we should hey, why don't you do a response you know, maybe yeah, Fringy nah, I'm not interested give it a shot today's animal of the day is the carrot caracal I assume that's how it's pronounced yeah, it's like a little links, like a big cat with the things on his ears he's cool flopping around I hope he's doing alright I hope he's not upset about the MCU I hope that the caracals don't know what's happening to the MCU Sitch and Adam need to be straightened out they keep bad straw manning consistency no way home beginning third is bad because it's consistency focused consistency equals bad what you might have to read that again no way home beginning third bad because it's consistency focused but it's like the worst there's a lot of garbage in the first third I wouldn't call it consistency focused at all do they mean like expositional and it's not interesting to watch because it's more so set in everything up is that what they mean because I'm always very exhausted when people say like oh yes we should make everything make sense because if like you can't do it interesting and that's my problem not yours I have no problem with trying to make a scene interesting while also setting rules but I don't know Sitch and Adam have interesting perspectives on media and they they follow my assumption that when you primarily focus on politics you end up saying some stuff about media that's you know you know I haven't said anything I just my thoughts be wandering now all the buzz has gone down I think invincible is pretty neat and has problems but I enjoyed it overall also high rags oh hello pretty neat huh alright yeah now I'm gonna start a media podcast they should totally do that and then invite me on every time they have a bad opinion alright but I can't go on every episode that would be ridiculous hey y'all any advice for aspiring fantasy writers I thought I'd ask since you seem to share my appreciation for well done character work thanks for all the great shows something that's fantasy in particular can I have overpowered magic sure yeah yeah keep everything like low with magic I think that's probably the way to go because like this Dungeons & Dragons movie like I said it's gonna be magic bullshit the movie and you just how is this world function with all of this magic everywhere and all these spells and just this insane power that it's madness I don't know I guess I assume that you asked specifically for fantasy for a reason but I don't know what to say apart from that that's fantasy specific um I guess draw inspiration from really good things but change it up in a way that makes yours unique um a lot of even bad fantasies can have neat elements to them so mix and match and change and warp things and twist it into something not twist in a bad way but you know draw from inspiration and make it your own come up with some neat ideas that maybe no one else has done um but yeah characters will be big when it comes to fantasy stuff as they are in many things characters are still king yeah there's so many ways to um almost begin the the embers of your story in that you could be like you're just thinking of a payoff or you're thinking of a world you just want to see and be everyone in or you think of one character you really like and you want to see them do certain things it really depends on you what do you want and then obviously the second you commit to anything that's pretty much our writing advice would probably go for like page one it's just like whenever you've committed to anything everything else now has to react to that having existed and can't contradict it that sort of be careful what you commit to yeah goes into the overpowered magic stuff it's just like don't if you're going to commit to this idea that you could do this and you could this and you got spellcasters everywhere and they're doing this and doing that it's like man like that's that's a huge element of the world that you can't really escape from it's going to have a lot of crazy implications kind of highlighting how stories get broken in the first place some guy is like I'm only ever going to have them float a pencil that's as far as it's ever going to go that's as far as their magic can go they'll use it in those really subtle and interesting ways but I think a big payoff near the end will be one person manages to pick up like a table and that's incredibly impressive but they have that kind of power and he's like a special kind of guy and then you know ten years later it's really popular and some new guy comes in to write and he's like he's going to pick up a spaceship like oh you don't really do that because I mean it's like nobody will be really cool this is more magical than we've ever seen before it's going to be incredible because people like that when you picked up the table is a big payoff so imagine what they'll think when he picks up the whole house wow when he pulls the moon into the ocean it'll be so cool he's going to hold the whole solar system in his hand and because it's cool so hey you know that kind of advice but also expand your mind go crazy have all kinds of stuff yeah subtle allegory more yeah you kind of imagine what I'm applying that to everything basically the only magic carpenter I can think of is Jesus so yeah finally caught up started mid-September 2021 and had a blast thank you for showing me how to think more about the meteor I enjoy instead of clapping at every spectacle also high rags hello glad you've had fun with it we here always love to have new people jump along see what they have to say about this that and the other hopefully you find our breakdowns entertaining as well as insightful that is the hope so thank you very much for sharing that please read the pokedex entries for frostlass frostlass could you spell that for me please I will post it for you and I will hope this isn't some kind of creature that freezes people to death but and then it like breaks them into pieces and eats the pieces and absorbs the soul that sort of thing alright let's go to scroll down Bulbapedia.net alright and did they pokedex entries for frostlass there's someone here that's particularly oh my goodness here it is something happened around sun and moon where I don't know if there's something in the water over there in Nintendo HQ or there was a gas leak I don't know what it was okay when it finds humans or pokemon it likes it freezes them and takes them to its chilly den where they become decorations yes great oh that was the sun that was a sun entry the moon entry is very distinct the soul of a woman lost on a snowy mountain possessed an icicle becoming this pokemon the food it most relishes is the souls of men so it's literally what I worried it would be exactly what I worried it would be okay well you know okay because there's ultra sun and ultra moon and these are both pretty creepy it freezes hikers who have come to climb snowy mountains and carries them back to its home it only goes after men it thinks are handsome oh man be ugly ultra moon even the first sentence is like alright like to help them right it's home to thaw them out no I don't think so but ultra moon says it said that on nights it comes down to human settlements if you hear it knocking at your door do not open it okay I'm not gonna good advice it's not friendly yeah it brings frozen prey back to its layer and neatly lines them up um legends archaos says a pokemon inhabited by the soul of a woman who died bearing a grudge in the snowy mountains legends of frost last placing deathly curses on misbehaving men send shivers down my spine so it's a fucking ghost witch and it curses people and it freezes them and it yay pokemon this next one says phase what happened with pokemon yeah phase one is still the best phase overall it might be you got avenges in there and iron man and I remember cap being pretty solid thorn yeah it's probably is probably is honestly I'm making a video on light year and I figured out Chris Evans is just doing his cap voice but then deepens his voice for popular buzz phrases I hate it yeah I don't think good that came and went pretty good yeah I don't think I'm ever gonna see light year I don't think I wanna um hey we won't see light year in a long time that's true so Thor had to stop gore from opening the door and after Thor beat gore he crawled on the floor to get to the door everybody do the dinosaur everybody do the dinosaur that's um not ice age three yeah how many of those are there now two people said in chat that pokemon's always been that way it's always been dark they said drowsy steals children and cubone wears it's mother skull I don't know I feel like cause I was around for the first gen stuff and it never seemed that way so ways his mother skull is a hell of a lot less scary than what you just described about that dude in the icicle it's favorite food is men's souls and stuff like that or it freezes you and it brings you back to its place and that you just stay there as decoration I don't know it feels that I don't know I feel it's a step different I feel it's a step up back to back it did get worse nah it's always been that dark I don't know it feels like it's gotten darker yeah I think it's categorically gotten darker there's no fucking way it's always been like that you might be able to find one or two references but we're seeing them all over the place now kinda nuts it's always about eating people's souls and stuff I'm concerned quantumania will assassinate scott lang's character he's too busy with his book to spend time with his daughter am I alone yeah that's bullshit it's gonna be really annoying so woohoo ant-man quantumania more like sonic mania haha nice sonic mania is good or bad I assume it's bad I have no idea but I think you're probably right about the whole like when you get on sonic as a content you're more likely to hit bad than good think I'm gonna upset some sonic fans your IRL pokemon of the day is the dragon headed caterpillar also high rags hello but why rags oh because that's just because we've got to do it that way because I have fun because I enjoy it that's why this is a very interesting creature let me get you a picture here I totally agree that it's a IRL pokemon look at that thing oh you're looking at it good it's yeah it's uh very interesting dragon headed caterpillar that I wonder what it that should have inspired a pokemon to be honest with you what what is this critter that you've got pulled up he's a dragon headed caterpillar after an awesome looking caterpillar yeah it looks like Rayquaza maybe Rayquaza is inspired by this yeah I was thinking that what does it turn into what does it look like after it becomes a butterfly I don't know dragon headed caterpillar butterfly because the butterfly dragon head I'll get back to you on that can we look forward to any the boys season 3 coverage or we pass the point of caring rags and free definitely don't care I'm not even sure if they cared enough to just find out what happens in it and complain to Fringy in a both like 10 minutes and then never talk about it again so probably not no unfortunately do you guys think Mr. Nimbus will still control the police in Wakanda forever knowing how the MCU treats continuity I'm worried who's Mr. Nimbus Mr. Nimbus am I missing a reference no that is is he like a cloud person Mr. Nimbus oh it's a Rick and Morty reference because oh yeah because he's like the he's like an Aquaman type oh yeah I remember I am yes he will be in Wakanda forever I'm pretty sure James Gunn for Booster Gold movie it probably would have been that alternate timeline where James Gunn would have actually become one of the like most influential creators of the MCU and that no I know what I'm saying is just the thought because we were talking about it at this point he was meant to be the producer of the cosmic side and if that timeline had come true we probably would be dealing with a lot more quality controlled MCU stuff but too late for that now but maybe that will mean that we get some pretty cool DC stuff who knows I liked the suicide squad you know what about pacemaker well you know the suicide squad we already gave a 5 so it's not like it was the most amazing thing in the world we'll see hello EFAP crew well actually before you move on I found the what the butterfly that the dragon headed caterpillar turns into you sound unimpressed yeah I kinda am it's alright I guess with a caterpillar like that it would you know I guess I was expecting the caterpillar becomes the beautiful butterfly right and now it's like the incredible caterpillar becomes that's alright butterfly yeah hello EFAP crew is there ever a time you feel you were too cynical well that others were too cynical yeah probably I don't know what examples I come up with exactly too cynical what do you call too cynical is that what they're saying? I guess perhaps I treated you too harshly basically like you were cynical a cool way you made you overly negative about something that you eventually realized was you know had more value than you first gave it most of the time we overshoot don't we like in a positive way rather than a negative way I think typically yeah we're like no no no this could be good because of these reasons and then we're like oh it is not often that something goes pretty cynical well don't be fair I went into the page for it pretty cynical I was about to say that's sort of a standout example of the other way generally things do not get better on rewatches if we didn't already kind of know it sometimes we go into stuff and we're like oh yeah it's probably definitely got some huge issues and then we see it and we're like yeah we were right but it's rare that we're surprised that things are better than we thought I think in a meaningful you know in a big way maybe we were too cynical believe it or not oh yeah maybe don't be really good maybe they'll be the best Avengers movies ever making them maybe they're in the same year because they like shot them and produced them back to back and they're just releasing them oh can you imagine making two of those at once oh I think they made Infinity War an Endgame back to back like production wise like they did it all in one run I think so with re-shoots and stuff but yeah I think that was back to back for like eight nine months huh they did that with Lord of the Rings they did Lord of the Rings was like 14 months I think it was like from 99 to 2000 yeah did them all back to back and then they staggered their releases in the movies watch the Noble Six Ghost of Reach teaser trailer right why well on stream yeah why is it because it's really good it's a halo thing I guess because Noble Six Ghost of Reach I don't know I just don't care about Noble Six you know like I feel like we got that story um are they just asking to watch like one of the trailers for Halo Reach is that what they're asking what is it called Noble Six Ghost of Reach that doesn't sound like a trailer actually well they called it a teaser trailer so so I guess this is some kind of a show or it looks like a yeah it looks like a CGI sort of thing here oh people are saying it's a fan thing oh what was the question can you read that question again go watch it it's kind of a funny way to do it go watch this it's so bad wow see this is part of the problem right this is your monkey's paw you are stressed to watch it and you might not be getting what you wanted I've just been giving and listening a bit like it looks fine for what I'd expect it looks fine monkey's paw but then they started talking it looks so don't have your friend Kevin do your voice for your brooding oh voice actors do work so it's not just something anyone can do it makes me laugh I'm sure they tried their best but that's not good is this what you wanted I don't know I hope this isn't what you wanted but it's just I barely have any idea what's going on I was like it's only a minute I'll just post it here for later and you could skip to the part where they start talking it's bad aww you just clearly tell they just had some guy do it this is just probably your friend isn't it your friend didn't do a good job voice acting is really important I couldn't do a lot of voices I'm not a voice actor really so phase 4 is about family Dom and Brian drift in and steal the millenium falcon and save iron man from the bat cave and gather forces to save ray and steal all the Latium on the Ferengi home world the Ferengi home world no Ferengi oh okay and yeah I was about to say the Ferengi home world that's just earth neat that's confirmed yeah that was never in doubt you just understand every last piece of anything getting confirmed is very important the lore is all gone out sure it's confirmed the D&D trailer was the best one from STCC lol I don't even know what I'd say the best trailer was House of Dragon I guess like it's as good as it could possibly be but I just don't trust it yeah of course but the D&D trailer I don't know it just felt super super generic to me yeah mmhmm I want a boost to gold trilogy the first movie focusing on what it means to be a hero second building his relationship with blue beetle 2 and 3 losing blue beetle and learning how to accept his death well oh that's not happening boost to gold phase 4 is over you can watch FX's Legion nah is that a movie? TV show is that on like Amazon or something uh well if it's FX it'll be on Disney Plus right ah okay um I've heard legions good I just I have but are there more I understand if you want to prevent spoilers but thoughts on the end to better call soul season 6 episode 9 it was interesting but thought it skipped over some details is that nippy is that that episode 9 um I enjoyed it I don't feel very passionate about it at all I think people are incorrect when they say it was nothing however I can understand why people have said that and that show should be careful to make sure it has a point to to make with how many episodes it's got left I'm sure it'll be fine oh nippy is episode 10 I don't remember which one what happened in episode 9 um yeah I'm really not someone you're going to want to get commentary about a call soul from I just my passion levels are so low on it it's a from what I can I would say it's a good show you guys check it out but um yeah it's a real overview I'm just like I'll check out the last three episodes don't worry I'll mention what I thought of the finale at some point probably after it is uh I will defend nippy to my grave yeah I mean I was surprised that so many people were upset with nippy and uh you know I think that I think I think they need to calm down and maybe complain when the whole season's done maybe if there's not much going on at that point that's a time we could be like why did they spend so much time on nippy okay um the insouciance of movie makers and gamed envelopes game developers is simply disappointing these days I don't know the in ignorance maybe what happened to the days when people were to make good movies and games just to make good movies and games there's still lots of good games coming out there are yeah I mean we do in gloom a lot but in terms of the amount of content that you have at your disposal as a gamer it's never been better honestly I mean especially as older stuff remains playable in a variety of ways with you know double A and indie stuff all over the place I mean you've got the cream of the crop to pick from and yet it feels less reliable that good things will come out yeah the games are doing way better than fucking movies uh it's remarkably telling that any MCU film not banking on nostalgia gets outsold by Top Gun and Aquaman any MCU film is not banking on nostalgia well I mean multi-verse tried to bank I guess to say no way home but Spider-Man would have always made more than like Top Gun and Spider-Man and I feel like Doc Strange was still kind of trying to use there definitely was no that does put its perspective though Aquaman is more successful than Doc to Strange in the multi-verse of man that's made more money yeah I can't believe that yeah they're both shit Question for the EFAP crew my screenwriting professor told me once that the most important aspect of an adaptation is to maintain the tone of the source material agree disagree what do you think is more important disagree disagree I'll go with spirit before tone but I would agree that that's pretty broad yeah it is it is broad and if the most important the most important part of making an adaptation is to write something good it's always gonna be to write something good that's an odd way to phrase it like what's the most important thing about making an adaptation it's like well why like an adaptation specifically what about making an adaptation require something different for like are they talking about accuracy yeah I don't it's like you see what I mean in the questioning so in my head I'm fighting between as faithful as you can be or as good as you can be because those are two different things but when you're saying what is the important aspect of an adaptation as opposed to a good story yeah because a good adaptation might mean 100% faithful it just depends on how you categorize what makes a good adaptation I guess because you know some people have already said like respect the original it's like what if the original is like really bad and everyone I mean what if you respect it and you're just not talented yeah what if you you can have you can have a great deal of respect for something but you're just really bad at writing stories and making yeah like what exactly what good is it doing you to be respectful if what does that translate to meaningfully a lot of the time well-written does translate into people being like you were respectful but it also can't so you know the different scenarios but it's not intrinsic it's not necessarily and if it's not necessarily then it means it must be something more important so I said why are you adapting something bad if it's bad just make a reboot or a new version it's like a great high concept I don't want to take it I just I don't have to provide a justification it's the hypothetical if someone's doing that and it's a bad thing could they adapt it faithfully probably not I guess that's the thing is like surely good advice is something that's actually usable whereas like let me let me retain the tone what does that mean what does that mean well it's shit it's more like reliable more actionable I suppose a reboot is an adaptation in a in a sense yeah I'd say it is based on the original material was watching Age of Ultron with a friend the other day and at some point I just said man isn't it sad that we're hoping Avengers 5 be a bare minimum of quality of Age of Ultron ain't that something yeah because Age of Ultron is shit you probably won't even get that though no because Age of Ultron has some decent character work you know between strong dialogue too what happened to the dialogue it's gotten so much worse it is better it really has gotten way worse exactly no one talks like a person would talk to another person well I mean there was in Doctor Strange you remember when like Wanda shows up at Kamatage and then Doctor Strange yeah he's like you're justifiably angry you've had to make sacrifices and then she's like yeah I've had to make sacrifices you don't know anything about sacrifices it's like what the what is this like you know what I mean like this isn't a conversation you're not talking to each other what you said has nothing to do with what he said yeah you're just speaking at one another in this weird flimpy way probably is chopped up there was a longer conversation where it did make sense because don't speak to me about sacrifice what all he said was she's had sacrifices don't speak to me Doctor Strange who sacrificed his life thousands of times to stop Dormammu and who sacrifices life again to save the universe it's vision sacrifice more so than yours anyway okay but she's mad though okay she's very sad and yet none of her plan has anything to do with reuniting with vision or her parents or you know it's somebody that she actually knows for years rather than three days I'd be curious if Michael Waldron even knows who these characters are like yeah watch one division because they reference it in that a little bit at least mm-hmm oh well I think she be you knew thank you very much super stick it oh nice when you fought so loud everyone's head explodes sad face that's pretty bad yeah wouldn't want to be around that a lot of moral implications they should probably just live alone far away from society if that's a risk what would you do if a classic scenario you're in an elevator with one other person and you fight what do you do you have to write it are we including the head exploding thing or just no no no no just an elevator with someone else and you fight what do you do just write it out hold up I think there's a very important question to ask here which is is it audible or silent no it's silent but I mean they can smell it yeah just whatever no fuck it gas light them look at him like well it's funny that you say that right it's because I remember it was a joking family guy when Peter is in an elevator the guy next to him just starts sniffing and Peter's like um it was you that's a good joke that's a good joke I don't think the only way that if it is audible though you just gonna have to just roll with it don't go down to the Taco Bell on second and main because I think that's the best you can do you have to make it a joke looks like that bean burrito is coming back to haunt me there's something like that or you could be like a more more animated cartoon animated cartoon that's stupid sense it's more cartoon references you could be like homo open the lift door and escape and then slide down the side of the power plant to get away yeah well it's my floor see you tomorrow just say just someone said just say did someone step on a frog wow I never heard that one that's a bit insensitive do frogs make farting noises when you step on I've never stepped on a frog I've made sure not to because we have lots and lots of toads here that come out at night I think there's a difference between a toad and a frog ranks correct there is they're not the same way that I don't want to step on one I don't want to step on the other frogs are really cool like it's you know we mean we mean about them a lot but frogs are really nifty critters Oh Fringy speaking of your love of animals I found a meme I want to show you I think you really like it I may well I think you just might I liked it I have a lot of memes in my folder it takes a while for it starts with the old ones up top so that's oh I got the last two oh both of these are they're similar but we were talking about lowering a little bit so go ahead and put that in there why is it not sending there we go yeah I've seen that one before and the other one that you're like it's just a bit of reading but there was a little bit of reading there yeah you know how canaries were historically brought into coal mines because of the mine was full of carbon monoxide the canary would die first and the miners were the miners would be able to escape before they died too this is a canary resuscitated when miners notice the canary getting sick with carbon monoxide poisoning they can close the circular hat so no more gas gets into the canary cage and open the valve on that oxygen tank to keep the canary breathing in other words they made a space suit for birds by immediately giving the canary access to clean air they save it from the poison the bird lives to be clear this is not for economic purposes this was specifically created because the miners felt bad and wanted to save the bird oh man is that true it looks like it hey it looks like something that I'm because I'm looking at the construction of it and it looks rudimentary enough to where like someone could make that tell me that a bunch of coal miners just made that to make sure that their bird would be safe yeah yeah that's that's nice I always felt really bad for like the whole canary in a coal mine it's like Dan that poor canary we're made for a good turn of phrase what was the joke in Simpsons with the canary in the coal mine I don't remember I wasn't in the coal mine it was when they were digging to uh to save Bart from the well wasn't it again I don't remember damn all right let me see if I can find it that's okay let's press onward Marvel doesn't want any solo Hulk story since universal still has the license to be fair we're not asking for solo Hulk stories just good Hulk stories yeah you can tell his story while he's in something else okay this means they just outright killed Hulk it's just Bruce and strong Bruce now there's no compromise you can just change and be the same yes the Hulk is dead on that character you you saw pieces of and a lot of in Ragnarok he got killed it and nobody cries for it little clown boy is an actual like in a series as of today hell of a boss season 2 episode one little clown boy are they saying that it's an actual insult in that show or I don't know little clown boy I love it it's okay okay well what's interesting is that if you google little clown boy the first like thing proper that pops up is tone of little clown boy tone of look tone of look I can't wait to see more of she hulks feet bursting from his shoes how embarrassing someone you just want to see your feet alrighty fair enough how long the copyright claims usually take to get resolved for you guys paramount is holding on to me for halo video for the full 30 days my vids average like 20 views I really don't understand I don't think they care how many views anyone gets it's uh grab it up a lot of stuff you have to write out the full 30 days they're changing that though I think they're making it just a week thank goodness god forbid an actual really good change anyone see the new bnbh movie pretty good bnbh who dat what dat bnbh movie bnbh helps out bnb hero token bnb heroes just to be clear could you just bnb no n and b and b oh bivous and butt head oh I didn't know there was one neither did I and I haven't seen it it's a it is bivous and butt head do the universe me are you tell the difference between someone get offended for the sake of it and someone who is genuinely upset by something you said just curious how do you tell the difference context matters I guess yeah how genuine you think the responses because it could be that they're trying to gain something else by pretending to be offended or it could be that they're just really upset with you the same the thing I don't think there's a perfectly consistent way to discover it hello I am obsessed with your Star Wars video essays they're awesome do you have plans to cover the prequels and OT or is force awakens the last video essay no I'd like to do stuff on them someday but I just don't know when exactly any of those kinds of projects gonna happen thanks for saying that would you consider doing a breakdown of nope I'm interested to hear your guys thoughts on it and themes which could seem ham-fisted I am on the fence I didn't intend to see it this Jordan Pills new movie he's um he's the guy who made get out and us get out was cool and then you think about it and then us was just awful and nope I mean no spin out for a little bit now and I've not really heard many people talking about it like in terms of it being good or bad I think capital opinions thought it was bad so there's that oh my god believe in Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved I can't choose what I believe unfortunately um so that's an issue that should have been addressed in the planning stages of the universe is if belief is the what's required for salvation maybe you should have made belief something have a little bit more can we just skip to where everyone has salvation prefer that no we couldn't have done that that would have been insane I'm a bit of a rule breaker I'm a maverick absolute madness absolute madness you can't just do that oh dear devil at least Deadpool will be undisneyed is that true why what do you mean I don't know what do they mean what does it mean for Deadpool to be undisneyed I I have no idea Professor Hulk should be the very last thing to happen all his stories happen because of the conflict of two personalities you can't do them anymore yeah it's done now skipped over I'm just not that interested in Professor Hulk doesn't even make sense to me Hulk was a distinct personality so like I guess he's dead oh hey rags look he did it murderer no no I meant that he did a bite in a moment I talked about that for a while just about a minute ago here's what's weird is that I don't remember you neither of you are listening to me that's great hey chat at least you guys are listening to me are you sure you talked about that oh yeah I was waiting for friggin to talk about it but he didn't say anything can you specifically say that Bruce killed Hulk did you say that hey chat yes or no did I talk for a while about talking about Hulk being dead that's Bruce Bruce now has I'll just go back to the super chat to prompt it if you want that would make me feel better some people are saying no it's kind of weird that a lot of people are saying no again how could there possibly be a 50-50 disagreement on chat what is going on what I'm calling gas lighting on this one this is this is important in an elevator this is a way different yeah god damn people are saying it's more than a minute ago as well oh that's just a first saying I don't know how long ago it got exactly like a literal amount of time probably like 5 oh well you know what 5 minutes ago was a little while ago in any case let's we can move on no I just want to make sure because I don't want rags as only by moments to be pointed out it would be unfair yeah it's fine it's not a big deal it happens it happens it's fine I'm not going to hold it against you or anything I don't want you to be bullied this was more of like a Mario card moment I was so engrossed in my race that I just didn't it didn't get through I was too busy trying to get 9th place instead of 10th out of 12 I'm very good at this game I've only played like 400 hours remember the little clown boy super chat about it being spotted in some TV show the one right before that was what right killed Hulk just Bruce and strong Bruce now there's no compromise I read all that out and then talked about it for a while and nobody said anything okay that's yeah I don't know what happened there because I totally agree it's not it's like they don't even fully understand like who they're like the nature of who Hulk and Bruce are like his characters and different people he refers to him as the other guy yeah yeah but he's he's that's awkward we best avoid remembering that because they need to accept they've murdered someone yeah let's live and let live Hulk and by live and let live I mean kill you and your life also everyone who said that it was a falsehood ban them thunder please ban them all permanently and if they've got any kind of membership ban them more than permanently if you can find a way to do that permanent plus I think there's an option find a way to mark them as genomes like instead of members they get turned into genome like a little like a little genome hat a little genome avatar but this would support the theory that all of this is just in my head and I'm in an insane asylum or something it's all in your head Luigi it's in your imagination there's no such thing as the mushroom kingdom I'm a plumber you've been riding off of me and my money for years you're a useless cop Luigi I don't mean supporting you because you're my brother but Mario what about the princess she's real that was a dead hooker Luigi we were you were on mushrooms what about toad what about toad that wasn't a talk in mushroom that was my talk Luigi that was like that's why it looked like a mushroom we got another Hulk one the reason why Hulk has been set aside is because universe will own the rights Disney can't do a Hulk centric movie he can only be part of an ensemble again him not having his own movie does not mean you have to make him shit yeah we can make him work in other people's movies absolutely look at Avengers looks like Skywalker look at him he's neat lord long bong of mubeslington abbey is there any good chance a Kong fap Peter Jackson's long kong when there's less going on there'd be a movie fap for the ages p.s. hello waxies screeches what a good boy hello how are you i think so i've been pretty good that's good i'm just wondering i think i'm doing pretty good i don't want to let it slip you gotta keep up those good healthy habits yeah have been nice and kind to people and yeah i you know i think there's on the horizon there's a good chance someday yes a long kong fap why not having encountered several hackers in games lately i would like to know your opinion on hacking in games atm dealing with a lot of wall hacks and speed hacks in dbd well what's the opinion to have like in multiplayer games is really shit is maybe the difficult question is there ever a time where those hacks are chill and cool and fun it's like i guess locally when you're just sort of experimenting but to try and enter a competitive environment it's bullshit yeah yeah just undermines the whole point which is somewhat level playing field depending on what type of game or possibly a completely level playing field being undermined by stuff beyond the parameters of the game cheating like yeah yeah yeah i have no sympathy for cheaters ban them destroy their accounts they've made a series of decisions that led to the ruining everything really hurting the experience for everyone else i have no sympathy for cheaters whatsoever have you cheat you're gone period no warnings you know exactly what you were doing cheating isn't some new foreign concept that you're ignorant of man remember jinson's death scene in i-man 1 yeah yeah i do back when things were not shit i remember mad at yeah and we had characters going ox and stuff she hulks whole thing is that she's weaker than hulk but can control it and brings out the best of her versus hulk uh yeah that makes sense to me that there would be trade off some whatnot doesn't look like she's weaker than him and seems like she's just better but we'll see this you know it could just be a trailer doing its traileriness um try to amnesia that motion blur nearly killed me kind of disappointing oh you should turn that off i would i recommend yeah i always turn off motion blur in games i i hate it always turns off whenever i get a game and it's on off it goes mm-hmm sob sob hi rags sob sob hello like they're crying oh hulk you're not sad unless you're just calling me a son of a bitch you many times oh gosh didn't incredible hulk establish the transfer of hulk powers by blood to that scientist that was helping him mr blue his head swells from oh yeah yeah i gave up on that they just did nothing with that well that guy had special weird blood that makes him crazy weird yeah remember the post-credits scene for incredible hulk was tony setting up the avengers team he went to talk to uh um ross i guess that can't be canon anymore like where he's like surprised by the idea of the avengers so that makes sense what happened you know he did that scene for free because he was so grateful for the opportunity for iron man man that's cool they don't do much for free anymore i imagine wait we could have created an army of hulks this entire time that might have been helpful with everything god i hate the mcu yeah like he drops his blood at everyone and then thaw powers them up with thaw powers and it's just like whoa yeah good luck Thanos with banner and hulk they're completely separate beings but she hulk is one person it annoys me and i haven't even read many comics i don't think it's a problem necessarily it depends on the explanation i guess in this case it's more so just why why is that how it works like just because just because bruce has got it under control wouldn't she have to do the same thing like wouldn't she have to figure it out or does she just get straight away the super duper benefits of being like cognizant while all that's going on i guess we'll find out i'm not thinking i don't think they're gonna do a good job though of course it uh imagine punished thaw getting a robot arm from tony such rocket because he did the snap himself after eight itching slapping oh bitch slapping don cheetle ducking cheese whiz joke i'm glad that people have gone to the point where the cheese whiz joke is just considered the worst fucking thing like why did you do that it was so bad can you remind me of that joke do you know what's coursing through my veins and then don cheetle says cheese whiz and then thaw's like kinda not happy about that it's not a good joke well yeah it's not just the joke being like kind of shit on its own the context is thaw's like desperately trying to explain why he should be the one to do the snap and it relates to how he feels he failed like i remember it now yeah fucking disappointing you're just there being a jerk you know like what is that other than your fat okay man how do we i saw a joe sweden movie how do i do that bad you saw a joe sweden movie how do i do that oh that you mean that well the rooso is like i don't know what they were thinking with that because they've shown they can do infinity wall is one of the funniest mcu movies yeah i just don't get it contemplative and also very funny because the scenes don't step on each other yeah they're not trying to be both it's like both need time there's like this buffer space that they need in between you know if i quote out of context of the day does elizabeth warren have telekinesis that's about i know it is if bruce slash hulk took drugs could it be revealed through a blood test what does it mean to do a drug test on the hulk like i don't know i don't know maybe it gets us up to them to decide what their rules are for that like i don't know if his blood is weird or if it's easy to you know also fringy as the australian of the group do you think that the pokemon skaroopy could survive your lands long enough to become drapeon appreciate you all massively never heard of that there's a we got an image of it if i can get one skroopy uh here it is uh let me copy he seems cute even though he's you know here is skaroopy um i figured he might be doing all right and he evolves into a drapeon let me copy that i've seen this image i don't know if that's his three evolutions maybe oh wow all right yeah look at him go yeah i figure it'll be okay as long as he stays out of trouble he should be fine please get rikita for she-hall coverage i am uh i am hopefully gonna try and see about that you might be able to get some conversations about law shoved in here and there why not in your previous efap on uh what is t love and thunder okay you wondered if the mcu should have developed the cure for cancer they have ironman 3's extremist can cure anything it was forgotten along with the rest of phase 2 is that what they say in ironman 3 i can't remember what did they say specifically like i can't i'm saying i can't remember what they said about extremist what it could do in ironman 3 i don't know it was like some super regenerative flume could it like cure cancer though uh i think it was some some like illness helping thing yeah because yeah just the if it is that that is catastrophic for the world as well they actually do say that it can cure cancer that's not like a comic source that's from the movie itself really helps them breathe fire i know it can yeah the grow back limbs thing and it's just the thing is it was unstable right or at least yeah wow didn't seem that unstable seem like not unstable enough for the fucking creator not to take it so was it that he had a stable version or something well because some people blew up they got it yeah but but most people didn't but i yeah i'd need to see the movie again to be sure about i don't think any of us are eager to rewatch ironman 3 i don't really know not me oh no i'm the hulk now you're a hulk oh no i've got aids now you're in aids well i hope he doesn't have aids then they'll both be fine the hulk doesn't have aids that's not good i'm sure if he does they'll forget about it and he'll be fine this one says are they both lawyers uh just the one lawyer just here i don't think the hulk's a lawyer no he's a scientist doing science he's he's he has legalology is what he studies in the laboratory he puts some law into a beaker and he heats it up and he measures out some justice hell yeah and he pours out some habeas corpus it mixes it in with some objections yep the original ninja costume is still the best one original ninja costume for who are you talking about dead devil are you talking about like the man without fear the black sweat suit they might be talking about dead devil the next one's about dead devil dead devil in phase 4 is genuinely the most scared i've been for a fictional character in my life in phase 5 remember yeah well i guess he's gonna turn up in she hulk right so yes and probably echo as well in fact i think that's confirmed she hulk's phase 4 right yes well yeah we're still on it they're afraid for dead devil even in phase 4 unfortunately he made it through no way home everyone i know he said it for a few seconds but he made it through she hulk looks like a misogynist's attempt at critiquing the patriarchy a misogynist's attempt at critiquing the patriarchy um maybe the reference misogynist wouldn't generally can normally a misogynist wouldn't critique the patriarchy right but it turns out the people who are like down with the patriarchy the ones that are actually more so sexist and disney i don't know all i ever got from that is that it's kind of funny that the show has like the single female lawyer futurama like vibe a thing that was being made fun of like by futurama 20 years ago what do you mean you remember the single female lawyer joke yeah i'm pretty sure it's in that trailer it's like oh yeah you know like yeah i'm a lawyer a super demanding job isn't that exactly what the single female lawyer joke was i mean she's also a hulk right yeah i know i know of course there's that as well it's just kind of funny like if it was like there's a level of parallel to the single female lawyer joke would being a hulk help you be a lawyer i don't i don't know that it would like i'm not sure what the benefits of that would be because yeah i watched ali mcfeil the whole thing there is even a plot line where she's dating robert danney jr in the show and he got into bad things irl and he had to be written out of the show i think there's like a payoff where he may or may not leave it and he ends up leaving it because he had to be in the show so when i saw that joke in future armor i just thought it was more like a standard matt greening sort of reference well remember the big the big take away from that was it was not okay from the perspective of network television to have any radical change she couldn't not be a lawyer or be like she couldn't be in a relationship and not a lawyer that's allowed by the end of it she needs to be back to single female lawyer hey man let's probably make stuff these days yeah hulki mcfeil hulki mcfeil uh you know what's funny the fact that power rangers still tries to keep continuity between all the shows some of them even acknowledge the previous seasons will bring them back like lord zed and there's some people some people out there still like continuity okay that must be a crazy world where every week these these costume guys they beat up this monster and then they kill it but then it gets really really big and then they have to go fight it again and this happens every week and the world's just like yeah that's just what happens it all tends to sort itself out so you know we just roll with it it's why not uh remember in sicario and punisher tried to kill an FBI agent and got a wet willy from benicio del toro a car as punishment hi rags hello um yes i do remember that that seems pretty stressful because he realizes she's uh it's well it uh is she's trying to get in from he's the one that's like providing information i think and then he realizes she's figured that out but luckily benicio del toro is there don't watch sicario everybody don't watch the sequel i remember i don't even remember much about the sequel at all i just remember that scene when he like he shoots the dude but he does it kind of weird where he puts like he holds a gun with one hand and pulls a trigger with a different like hand do you remember that i just remember them having him get shot in the head and it happens to be the one angle in place that wouldn't kill you it's fucking absurd but whatever that happens though sometimes i'm sure a lot of things happen sometimes hi sweet good boys finally bought a ps5 the first console i've owned since ps2 did you recommend any must plays for the platform interesting well since i could grab like some ps4 classics then right because they all backwards i believe they are what would you go with what's the best of ps4 ringing ah shit um oh man get the shadow colossus remaster why not um well blood born that would probably be a good pick yeah yeah yeah you're okay with because some people really aren't okay with the 30 fps and then even lower than that you know which i understand totally if you want to talk about that for a second i will be back the problem is that there's not many games i can recommend of like playstation for a classic that doesn't run at a shit frame rate they all do they all 30 fps because they all yeah it's just it's just like console games 30 fps and that's 30 fps best case scenario that's exactly yeah they're really remembered best case scenario everything running as it should be you'll get 30 fps but if shit goes down yeah like um pretty sure that was because blood born would go into the like into the the 10s like it would drop into the 10s category and then there was that interview where the director said it wasn't the director it wasn't it was the producer who's like yeah it's better for action games to be 30 fps uh shut up it's like no it's not it's just categorically worse wrong um the ghost of sushima would be another one i'd probably recommend yeah um 30 fps is fine the human eye sees it 24 fp are you memeing i think that's the meme yeah drop below 20 however well i mean i would yeah sure but like i hope you're memeing well the as the lower in frame rate you go the more you notice the missing frame rates because there's going to be more tasks look like a slide show well yeah it mathematically if it gives it measured in frames per second the less you have the more space there will be in between them that's why it's very easy to see the difference between you know 30 fps and 60 fps but it's very difficult to tell the difference between 400 and 450 i've seen people before say that they think it's like weird like 60 fps they find it weird to look at which i've never understood yeah because uh because it's you're not used to it if i totally understand that because i that's the place where i that i was in in one time it was bioshock the game that let you the original bioshock on the xbox 360 had an option you can have 30 fps or you can have 60 fps but it wasn't called that it was called like smooth mode or something like that and it just looked different and i and i didn't know what to explain it to there's a lot of games that now let you do that they have like performance mode and fidelity mode which i'm okay with which is the option but i mean as for i think it's just a matter of you do notice it even if you're even if you're not cogniz like i remember i think i think it was um because call of duty has always run at 60 on consoles though i think they've gotten worse at that over the years but like on you know the older ones did um yes i don't think it's a surprise that call of duty ended up becoming like the most popular shooter among other things because of its emphasis on performance yeah battlefield would run at 30 and it was a difference that you just already you could feel that there you felt it that's the thing you will feel it even if you don't fully appreciate it you're gonna feel it yeah if you don't know what it's called or why it is it's just smoother um yeah like it's it feels really weird now playing like like if i ever played a game on con i mean last of us right like last of us two was 30 fps and it's like i don't oh i don't like like it is a big task to make me play some at 30 fps it had better be like it's bearable if it's a game like south park the stick of truth where yes or yeah that's 30 fps well it's because of the style of south park right as an animated go that but then you look at something like cuphead which is trying to it's doing the robber hose animation like animations at 24 fps cuphead is at 60 it's animated at 60 um they did all the the drawings they did 60 drawings instead of 24 um and nevertheless right regardless of what the frame rate is for the illustrations it's all about like the way that things move across the screen um and i mean in the case of south park it's not a game that requires much by way of like twitch you know mechanics rpg turn-based rpg it's really not that big a deal if civilization or rim world or whatever there's a lot going on and you don't get 60 fps you could deal with it yeah obviously it's not ideal but you could deal with it but man then some of the games someone in the chat's brought up fighting games and it's like there's an it should be no surprise that every like fighting game ever that's competitive is at 60 fps because it's just it's just the case that it's better um it's and and in the case of competitive games it's it's actually like essential you want to you want to yeah and of course i'm gonna be like why not 120 it's like i think 60 is a healthy middle ground most people are fine enough with 60 60 is good enough pretty much pretty much every tv that anybody has is only gonna display at 60 hertz anyway yeah if you want a screen with more than 60 fps it will generally be advertised as for gamers or something like that because most tv sh