anding is that we're forming this team it's not quite a department since there is no department that technically works with impacts of homelessness in the past historically that has been through other organizations and the county and so we're really proactively it sounds like staff is making changes and with our commendations of late to a whole array of services we're forming this team I wonder if it's appropriate if Laura has slide number 6 I mean that just is helpful to understand the scope of work that this position I think to see everything that is needed and why it is in the city manager department is because it's dealing with each department with fire with police with water with public works and so that comes from the city manager's office and so those levels of all that work is Laura here she is here playing on you do you I don't even know what to call it but yeah the homelessness response is a program within the city manager's office it is not a department nor a division is just one of the programs it's an integrated citywide program that sits in the city manager's office because it is citywide and has substantial needs to be able to integrate across multiple policies as well as integrate with regional partners similar to how crime and action and sustainability ended up being seated in the city manager's office and health and all policies as well homelessness responses and other programs that ended up seated here this is just an overview of the work that happens in the homelessness response space in the meeting space we participate in 2x2 with the county and that involves our elected officials with county's elected officials are you able to hear me very well yeah we can Laura and then the homeless action partnership we participate in the west coast cities in the United States interagency council and we have every other week city county coordination meetings we have a citywide operational coordination meeting across all departments that we coordinate internal city manager's office response team meeting that we do and then we also coordinate and do homelessness response out into the community from the city manager's office and then we also participate in the emergency operation center work as it comes up as you know we are participating right now because of pain as well as the disease and lightning fire and then any ad hoc meetings that come up additionally the actual work that is not meeting this is this mattering of what we do in this function so there's outreach there's pop up encampment manager there's vendor and contract management any temporary personnel that needs to be managed in this gets managed out of the city manager's office resources we coordinate with AFC for the safe parking program we work with the foundation army and the county for the armory we help with the San Lorenzo park and bench lands community requests for service that come in calls that come in from the community or emails are on the IT portal will help respond to those that they relate to homelessness the hygiene bay remodel work we are leading that project and along with public works and housing matters and county other CDBG related projects that are funded out of our community development block grant programming in the homelessness space will have to coordinate and project manage those communications and engagement happens from our centralized patients manager but the subject matter expertise for those communications and those community meetings comes from the staff we also coordinate community partnerships with housing matters encompass downtown streets and the county and then all of the work is stated with the camping services and standards ordinance the request for qualification has been coordinated from this team and then the stand up of the storage they've seen the mansion campments the operational policies that you've asked for restorative justice and exploring those options as well as how we report back to you those would all be developed from this group we also do location assessments and work with economic development for real estate identification whenever there's a civil grand jury and it has to have follow up from homelessness it comes out of this team we explore other service models that you've directed that's one of the things that's on the plate right now and then any ordinances and other policies and then the short-term medium-term and long-term strategy and planning that needs to happen will come from this small but mighty work group so as you can see from this cluster of items that I've just gone over really quickly it is well more than one point seven five F2Ds that we're asking thank you Laura and I think hopefully that answers your question thanks and if it's the pleasure oh thank you vice mayor it's the pleasure council I'll go ahead and let's go ahead and go ahead and I'm sorry sorry we have a motion by councilmember and moved by seconded by councilmember walk-ins to go with the staffer recommendation which is adopting a resolution amending the city of sanitary personnel complement and classification and compensation plans for the following departments economic development police parks and recreation planning and community development departments and city managers office so I would like to ask for a roll call vote on this thank you mayor so just to confirm the city managers is the point six five language right yeah it would be the 15 requests in the agenda report as they stand with the addition of the zero point six five appropriation for the management analyst that the council approved in item 30 and I do see that I'm sorry Callentary Johnson no and for the record my no vote is largely around the filling of the deputy city manager position I'm in favor of all the changes holder that motion passes with five in favor of the motion and two against okay we will move on to item number 32 councilmember coming before we move on I'd like to actually make a motion to reconsider item 30 of the budget so that we can discuss the processes for the two items that I mentioned previously around discussions for the homeless response division and I lost my notes but there was the chief equity officer is there a second for that second motion on the floor to reconsider adoption item number 30 which is adopting the budget to include a homeless to creating a homeless response division and a chief equity officer so we'll go ahead and do a roll call vote I'm sorry Vice Mayor Bruner I ask a clarifying question my understanding was that Tony Kandadi mentioned two options one would be to reconsider item 30 and then have that discussion would be to make was it a motion to bring it forward for another for further discussion at a future meeting was that my understanding I don't recall saying that specifically but those are indeed the council's consideration I see councilmember Watkins I appreciate the I just sort of want to reiterate my comments before I appreciate the interest in wanting to move forward in some of these discussions I again feel that the equity position or conversation really would be informed informed by the health and policy work we've been doing so I would like to have that we could potentially discuss that at this time in regards to the homeless division I feel like that's also a more robust conversation that I don't necessarily feel like it ties to a a conversation for next year's budget adoption and sort of reverting back to the next item reasons I don't I won't be supporting the motion yeah I guess I'll just make a quick comment too on the motion I won't I won't be supporting it I feel like we we have made great strides and we are going to start things that we have not done before with regards to simply managing and assisting people in homelessness but we also are faced with a structural deficit that's going to move forward and adding additional you know directing stuff right now to go into you know evaluating additional new completely unfunded positions and then also divisions new divisions within the quite a lead to me so I won't be supporting the motion so we'll go ahead and do a roll call vote Council Member Watkins, Callentary Johnson No I'd like to say for the record that the purpose for doing this is to have discussions and to initiate a process so that we can get input from the community on creating these many of my colleagues had just mentioned that you know we may need to start having these discussions because we're moving into new uncharted territories and especially if we're going to be really focusing on equity as it relates to public safety this is an opportunity to initiate those conversations and so I just wanted to make sure that that was clear so I'm voting in favor Vice Mayor Brunner I would like to say that I agree in having those discussions however tying it to item 30 and reverting back to item 30 doesn't I'm voting no on that and I'd like to really bring forward that we have those discussions for a future date and I appreciate that tie in with the health and all policies reference that Council Member Watkins mentioned an appropriate place to consider Mayor Myers I'm sorry I'm going to vote no so that motion fails with 5 against and 2 4 so we'll move on to item number I'm sorry you guys have additional comments I'm not quite okay do you have comments on item 31 the most the motion was was killed so I don't think it's appropriate that we continue the conversation I think we've got good direction that this is an item people are interested in continuing to speak on but I don't think we continue to speak on it right now I just had a quick question for the City Attorney go ahead Tony so Tony guess what would be the best way for us to bring this it sounds like there's a desire to have discussions around these two topics and I'm just wondering if it's not coming with the budget like is there opportunity to bring this forward at this time through a separate motion not tying it to the budget but bringing forward these items for future discussion that's all the focus is it isn't to the ties of the budget it's really just trying to find and it wasn't clear what the personnel it seemed like talking about new positions would fall this discussion but since it appears that they don't but it's related to some of the topics we're discussing what would be the appropriate way for us to important item Tony I'm I'm like comfortable with where we're going we're being asked to try to make a motion for items that we have no information about at all about creating a new division in the city there's no staff report that's not even part of our strategic plan so I'm really trying I'm trying to manage I'm not trying to shut anybody down but I'm just really trying to manage expectation on on the agenda today I think the way this is typically done is for a request to be made either to the mayor or by my three members of city council to to a subsequent agenda and that doesn't have to be at this meeting that can be as part of the you know in the normal course of the work week so that the item can be prepared and a report can be prepared and in an appropriate staff recommendation can be brought forward so that would be my recommendation at this point do you have any comments on that Martin had to step away I think as far as council policy what city attorney reflected is correct as far as being able to make a request because this would be definitely over the eight hour threshold and that would be the process to go through thank you I'd like to move on to item number 32 now next up on our agenda is item number 32 resolution to authorize the agreement between the city of Santa Cruz water department and the bank of America for $50 million line of credit for members of the public who are streaming this meeting is an item you want to comment on now is the time to call in using the instructions on your screen the order will be a presentation of the item by staff followed by questions from the council we will then take public comment and then return to the council for deliberation and action David Baum from our water chief financial officer is here to give the presentation oh no I see rosemary that's okay I was mayor good afternoon mayor and council I'm just going to introduce David also so I'm going to turn it over to him he's got a brief presentation for you great having difficulty getting this on the screen let me know if you want me to pull it up one minute please I'm not I'm not allowed to share my screen there you go now I am working for you David do you want me to pull it up is that on are you guys able to see his screen no we're not I think good idea for you to pull it up as far as place now it seems to be coming okay there you go there it is well thank you I just wanted to give a brief presentation on the action before you today the $50 million line of credit supported by special counsel Jones Hall chick Adam who is present and also our financial advisor I made and so with that I'll get started the purpose of this is to provide cash for us while we wait for a reimbursement from a revolving fund because as you recall the city council has approved loans from the state revolving fund in the amount of $149 million however what we've learned is that they're very slow to reimburse us and so it puts us in a difficult position so move on to the next slide again as I want to thank you in your earlier item you approved the water department's budget and the capital investment plan is $291 million as part of that is the $149 million loans from the state which we find very attractive for 30 years and so that's really the attractive part but the difficult part with these loans has been the time it has taken to get reimbursed I'll get into that in a minute our first request went in in December for the Newell Creek dam inlet outlet project and it was as you can see on this page it's a box of 3,000 pages and there are some nuances about this program whereby for example it can only be printed on one side and it needs to be delivered as paper it's just a way of saying that it takes time to get reimbursed with all this paperwork that they require and so I thought showing a picture of all this paper that was in just one filing in December for $23 million that would be a way to see for yourself just what a task it is so here we try to chart this out again the cash needed until the state revolving fund pays so what's here is the blue bar on the left is the amount of the claim delivered to the state revolving fund in December that was about $23 million the on the right hand side is the orange bars the orange bar represents the payment to the water department from the state and that first claim it was in two parts one was delivered in 111 days and the other one was delivered in 94 days where they say their performance measure is and so we had no we really didn't expect it to take so long and so we really in March we started to get nervous and felt that we wanted to reach into the toolbox and one of the tools in the toolbox was something the water department had done when it had it obtained a line of credit and so we thought this is the time to go out and seek a line of credit but what this says also so the orange is the reimbursement the gray is the line representing the amount of claims still outstanding so as of today we have about 13 million outstanding that we've paid out but we're waiting to get reimbursed from that loan that was given to us by the state implementing just a real short statement here about what takes so we're getting a line of credit it's at a lower interest rate than what we could obtain in the long-term market if we said did a bond financing we again we did this earlier in 2018 and we're just doing this because we need some to make sure that we continue to pay the construction going on in the CIP we need this to stay current we pay within 30 days of getting requests for payments so we sent out the request for proposals for this revolving line of credit in April and we received two responses we sent 20 we solicited directly 20 institutions two of them were in Santa Cruz one Bay Federal Credit Union and Santa Cruz County Bank but both of those said that this was a little bit beyond their scope of what they can do so we ended up having two bids from the usual suspects and the fact we only got it's not that easy to get this but fortunately Bank of America and JPMorgan Chase are the partners that we received in the request we are offered a $50 million line of credit I mean this is not just similar if you're on a home if you want to replace your roof you might get a line of credit because that's an extensive undertaking so I mean this is kind of what this is and the interest rate is a variable interest rate of three year period or until we receive the reimbursement and then it becomes like a revolving credit facility where we get money from the state and we can pay it back to the bank in order to restore the $50 million available to us and it is secured by a pledge of the net revenues of the law department so that would be the differences against the total revenue that's what's pledged to repay this we compared the two bids the one from Bank of America and the one from JPMorgan and they offered similar terms except that primarily JPMorgan was kind of more expensive in terms of their interest rate and so we just did this six month the six month apples comparison has a b of a cost of $92,000 in the similar if we drew down 20 million a similar cost for JPMorgan would be $115,250 so it's a pretty clear that the b of a was a better option for us other considerations the Bank of America has a requirement that we would establish revenues such that we could achieve a coverage level of $1.10 of net revenue for the total debt service outstanding if we wanted to issue more bonds it would be $115,150 coverage on the max annual debt service of all the banks that in order to receive the money from Bank of America under this plan their legal fees are sort of typical at around $25,000 JPMorgan's covenants to us were a little more restrictive along the lines of what we already have with our long term debt so not only in terms of pricing but also in terms of covenants the Bank of America was offering so the next steps would be for the council to approve the line of credit agreement that's part of today's packet and the resolution and the plan would be to complete this transaction with Bank of America on the 15th of this month we could access the line of credit of $50,000,000 prior to the end of this month one of the benefits not only being able to make the payments but also through the long range financial plan and something we're going to be updating in the months ahead we have certain targets and certain metrics that we want to meet so this line of credit also helps us to achieve our internal targets such as our coverage level on our debt and cash available in our reserves and the reserves have been used during this time in order to meet our obligations and so this will just shore up the financial capability of the department during this time so that concludes my presentation and I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have okay thank you very much for the presentation are there questions from council members on this I'm not seeing any questions at this time I guess I'll make a comment just state grants a lot over the years I mean this is a fairly normal practice it's for government to do especially when you're looking at the pay timelines like that you demonstrated David in one of your slides it seems like a prudent thing even though the wonderful work of the local institution it's hard to get that kind of capital I would imagine without going to these you know these bigger firms so thank you for the presentation if there's no questions from council I'll go ahead and bring it out to public for public comment so if you're interested in commenting on order excuse me if you are interested in commenting on the resolution to authorize the agreement between the city of sanitary's water department and Bank of America for a $50 million dollar line of credit please press star 9 on your phone to raise your hand when it is your time to speak you will hear an announcement that you have been unmuted the time rule will then be set to 2 minutes and I see we have phone number ending in 810 you're unmuted and you should be able to talk yeah this is Garrett again hey item 32 seeks to give business to Bank of America in 2020 Bank of America paid out $16.65 billion in a historic justice department settlement for financial fraud leading up to and during the financial crisis the largest civil settlement with a single entity in American history in 2019 Bank of America agreed to pay $75 million to sell a lawsuit of extracting overdraft fees that didn't earn from customers they also paid $4.2 million to sell government allegations of race and sex bias and hiring locations in four states 2018 42 million settlement with Bank of America occurred over what called the masking strategy which was applied to 16 million client trade orders between 2008 and 2013 representing over 4 billion traded shares Bank of America undisclosed agreements with electronic trading firms, Citadel securities, Knight Capital, DE Shaw, Two Sigma Securities and you guessed it, Maddoff Securities to handle the trades instead in 2017 Bank of America agreed to pay $66.6 million to end the lawsuit to get of collecting unlawfully high rates of interest styled as fees from customers who let their checking accounts stay overdrawn for several days I could go endlessly on you must surely get the idea that they never learn and they never pay the real price which is jail the mega banks and B of A is one of them is number two in mega banking but they're number one in paying for misdeeds don't play by civil rules or play fair get caught all the time, hand slapped and short memory types of all kinds happy banks without continuous malintent settlements, just an idea find one and I don't meet the socialist public bank and chase isn't that much different, thanks okay, seeing no other members of the public I will bring it back to council and look for a motion grab my okay, I see council member colder I'm happy to move the item I do agree with circumstances aren't allowed today so happy to move the item okay, thank you and council member call and tarry johnson second okay, thank you, so we have a motion by council member folder seconded by council member call and tarry johnson for the resolution to authorize the agreement between the city of sand cruise water department and bank of America for a $50 million line of credit and I would ask for a roll call vote please aye mayor brunner aye that motion passes unanimously we're running just a little bit I'd like to just take a five minute break so we can just use the facilities and we'll come back at about 405 410 and restart we have two additional items on our agenda this afternoon and then we'll have our evening session starting at 6 tonight so we'll just take a 10 minute break please come back at 410, thank you yeah, we're ready to go okay, next up is item number 33 the ordinance amending chapters 10.64 10.65 and 4.02 of the sand cruise municipal code pertaining to special events for members of the public who are streaming this meeting if this is an item you want to come on comment on at the time or call in using the instructions on your screen the order will be a presentation of the item by staff followed by questions from the council we will then take public comment and then return to the council for deliberation and action I have Lindsay Bass our principal management analyst in our parks and recreation department as good afternoon, thank you mayor and council members I'm going to share my screen I appreciate your time and review of our requested updates to three ordinances that govern the work that we do to permit a variety of city special events as you all know the parks and recreation department has long been permitting events in our spaces and places which means that we bring a good deal of experience and knowledge to this discipline however we expanded the scope of our work in January 2020 when the department added to its responsibility permitting for the following special events let's get this into presentation mode for you the responsibility from the city manager's office with the transition of the special events coordinator position over to parks and recreation that meant that we added to our portfolio of permitting public major special events minor events gathering neighborhood block parties as well as film permits you can see some examples here to give you a sense of what types of events fall into those categories new permit responsibilities came municipal code chapters that provide specific orders and how we are to permit in the case of 1064 public major special events gathering and expression events this of these chapters is to promote public safety and welfare and to provide the city with time to logistically accommodate the activity that is being suggested further in the case of 1065 there is an additional aim to assure that first amendment rights of those who wish to peacefully participate in public gathering and expression events in our city are preserved and protected and also to public property by other community members the third ordinance included in your packet is 4.02.021 which ensures the permit officer within the department has the ability to issue citations for permit noncompliance if the director so desires what was driving those changes was the fact that there were just a variety of updates that needed to be made so we focused our efforts to modify the ordinances to reflect the responsibility so in many cases the ordinances refer to the city manager's office refer to the city manager or city council as the governing body most closely aligned to the city manager's office transition that to the parks and recreation department in many cases and to our appointed council which is the parks and recreation commission so you'll see those updates throughout in the red line document we also looked to update language where it was outdated identification language in terms of examples of where we made language the third element that we focused on was modifying areas of the purpose and the definitions to promote more clarity so in some cases there were redundancies in the code that could lead to necessary so we really tried to work with the city attorney's office to streamline and clarify those areas of the code as well as to clarify certain definitions or to add definitions that were now germane with the transition of authority to our department that we looked at was around the appeal process that basically creates two pathways for appeals in the permit work that we do the first pathway aligns with our standard department appellate process that we manage through the parks and recreation commission secretary which is a staff member within the department and then a second pathway for an expedited appeal process and so the nature of events is that and the nature of our commission meetings is that they may not line up and so we wanted there to be a process where that producer could appeal in their fashion and have their issue resolved more quickly in line with the timeline for the event and that would be recieved and decided by the city manager and this piece, the appellate piece, received a good amount of focus from the commission when they heard this item and so I just want to make a special note that it's important for us to convey that event appeals are very very rare and how we've only been overseeing the special event permitting process shortly the person in that role prior to our taking it over could only remember in one instance where there was an appeal so this process provides a deslexibility before I close and open it up to questions I did just want to give you guys a little bit of an overview of the process that we took to review and recommend the updates that are coming to you today so from January to September of last year as I mentioned this role transitioned to our department and over that time we became much more familiar with the ordinances came to understand areas that required the updating that we flagged earlier we were able to talk to folks about particular weaknesses and how we could address that within the given language and where we couldn't we then from September to March of this year made updates to the ordinance and draft form and then took those to the commission and the public for feedback in early March of this year that was incredibly helpful find that the commission review and comments in detail are part of your packet and note they're mislabeled as attachment 7 they are attachment 5 so apologies for any confusion there but we did work through those comments from the commission and the public that we worked with the city attorney's office to do a final update of the ordinances so what is coming to you today is the product of that review work that we did from March through June with Tony Condati's team close for your questions and comments and again thank you so much for the opportunity to bring this to front of you today thank you Thank you Lindsay, I'll go ahead if any of the council members have questions on this item Vice Mayor Bruder Thank you Mayor Myers Thank you Lindsay there was a lot of red to read through I thought it was given this attention to detail I know Kathy was for many years in this role and so updating it and keeping it current was necessary thank you for the work that went into it and to the commission as well my question is related receive some correspondence from constituent and I'm saying about the best way to ensure there's flexibility to ensure that events don't disrupt quality of life for residents and with certain events that can be the case and so giving the balance with the needs of the residents and the permit process and so I'm just wondering what direction would be most helpful and how if already it is incorporated in any of the changes made and I think every event is going to be its own situation I know each event requires so many different moving parts and so it's hard to blanket one rule or ordinance or system given that each event can just vary and so wondering incorporate direction and language that allows for an assessment of the needs that really balance the quality of life in a neighborhood or and I can reference this one specific email that was very specific recommendations for one event as an example that's my question I think that's a great question and it's something that would flag when we went to the commission as well and the ordinance as written does allow for be able to evaluate and modify in a number of different ways so the first thing that we do when we're assessing a permit is we always evaluate it based on time, place and manner and so we're always using that as an assessment of how to place conditions on that permit in a way that does strike that balance that you just chapter 10 .64.1.5 allows action sorry, rattle that off very quickly for .150 .150 is action on application and section D of that does allow the director to promulgate administrative policies and procedures that govern the issuance of a permit so we can if needed policies and procedures that will help further balance the impacts of major events resources to manage the events as well as the needs of residents so we do have that ability to do so and that's the the first thing that comes in our mind is the proposed order of ordinance further chapter <IP_ADDRESS> 0 is the section on permit conditions and so that lays out all the different ways that we're able to condition an event so that gives the permit officer a good amount of discretion and the permit sure to send that feedback to you, you as a body, the city council, to us, to the commissioners, so that that information gets funneled to the permit officer and can be placed in the file for that event. And so if that event comes back to us, we can use that performance as a measure of how to place conditions on. And public feedback is always really, really helpful and appreciated for how we can make these events better and better balanced to your point. The final piece is that we, in the ordinance, there are provisions around notification of residents that will be affected. And we know that that's an area where jurisdiction now, we think that we can modernize that to help folks gain better access to events that will be happening in their area. And also take a look to make sure that we're doing our due diligence with the event producers that they're following through on the notification that they are required to do as part of receiving that event. So that's an area, in the last slide that I showed, once we have the blessing of council states to the ordinance, and you all may have some changes for us, but part of that piece of work that we'll do next is to focus on process improvements and to make sure that we have a good, dialed in effort to ensure that we're meeting the community's needs as we permit these events. I'd like to recommend that some of those details are incorporated for sure. And this one email from Anita Webb really specifically calls out the notification process to include two advance notices, for example, and that road closures and detours that block access to or from entry driveways have a two to three week advance notice and a 72-hour advance written notice to each doorstep. And I think if we can make sure that those recommendations are included in the language, that would be really helpful. The only question that I would give on that is, but things we can absolutely do that in events where those can present, and we can do that through the authority that the ordinance provides for us. So that's part of incorporating that feedback from the public into our evaluation of the events. I would caution putting that into the ordinance language just because it might create a requirement for us to do that. Yes, that's receiving a permit under this ordinance. And some of them are not that big or may not hit that threshold. And for that reason, it would create an added layer of paperwork and bureaucracy potentially. But we will, we are absolutely open to a recommendation from the council to incorporate things like that into policies that govern the work that we do around permits. Thank you. Understanding that, yeah, each event is very different and so incorporating it into the policies and procedures. Okay, great. That answers my question. Oh, I had one thought. Are there follow-up surveys ever done with events? Like, how did it go? What did you experience and pros and cons? And that way for those regular types of events, there's tweaks that can be made for the following year, the next time. Yeah, that's all a salient comment, a great one. It's something that we've got three outstanding people that are tackling aspects of this permit work in the department, and that's one area that they started talking about. So this hasn't been done historically, but we see it as an opportunity for all the reasons that mentioned that we want community feedback to improve events, but we also want event producer feedback to improve our event process. So we're looking at ways to incorporate that into our process and ways to automate that, so Tremaine Head and Jones, who is managing a lot of this for us and is also our tech guru in the department, is looking at how we can manage other systems in the city to potentially help streamline this and facilitate, like, the sending out of evaluations to event producers post-event and being able to keep that type of learning in-house so that we can move towards continuous improvement. Tremaine, Tremaine, on the line, Tremaine, if you have any other comments on that piece that you want to add, feel free. It looks like my video is stuck, but I'm here, council. Yes, we are trying to incorporate a couple of different changes once those go through, the first being actually developing a special event brochure slash guide, similar to the city of San Francisco's guide on producing special events within the city. They have the various agencies involved, as well as the various districts and neighborhoods involved with producing special events. It goes through the entire lineup in terms of the application process and procedures as well as any ancillary permits that may be required. That's similar to our city as well. In addition, we'd like to have a post-event evaluation form, which would essentially be a survey that would go out to the producer of the event, as well as any other community respondents. Over time, we hope to collect that information, and Lindsay has mentioned, use that to help better cater events and also create events for our community. Council Member Brown? Thank you. By the way. Thank you. Thank you. I just wanted to thank Vice Mayor Brunner for bringing those thoughts up. I share turns and definitely the letter that we received resonated. So, I guess I'm wondering if, because as we know, events are very different in different parts of town and different purposes and different numbers of people, different times, all of those things. But there are some, and in particular, the one that was discussed in that communication is a really intensive event. And so, I'm just wondering if you've contemplated the possibility of, in addition to noticing, trying to do some kind of, have a conversation or create a space for approximate to that who are, who just aren't going to be affected in these ways and it kind of can't be helped if the event's happening, you know, thoughts on how, their thoughts on how to ameliorate the impact. So, I don't know if it's possible to contemplate that in the case of, like, major events and disruptions related to those events. Yeah, Council Member Brown, that's a great point. Thank you for raising it. And I think we, as a department, take, you know, community concerns very seriously. And I think you'll note that they can also be the repositories of great solutions, you know, because they have lived through these events year to year, and we should be tapping them for ideas. And I think that's definitely something that we do want to do. There's absolutely an appetite. I will just mention the process for the department to onboard this new responsibility has been fraught and delayed. We recruited and hired someone who then left, and then we had to eliminate the physician and we've spread those responsibilities out across the staff, and so we're a little behind in where we would like to be in terms of feeling like we're more on a proactive footing. The pandemic didn't help that at all, just creating a lot of additional curveballs for us to address. But we are getting back on our toes with respect to these things, and I think we do intend to reach out to neighborhoods and community members. We have already done a bit of a location analysis of events for 2019 as well, just to kind of understand, like, where are these events landing in different neighborhoods? So who are those neighborhood communities that are seeing a lot of this activity? And so I think that will help drive those conversations of where we go to say, hey, you know, how is this going? Can we make some improvements? This is what we've heard. Help us understand how to make that better. So I think as we get organized and utilize these analyses, we'll definitely get into that. And we'll just ask for your patience as we work through that just given staffing constraints at the moment. Absolutely. Thank you. I just want to say, I mean, you have a lot on your plate, all of you, and we totally recognize that. And so this is just kind of a question for kind of a longer term, how we handle these processes. So I really appreciate your thinking on it and your presentation. Thank you. Thanks for the question. Okay. Is there any other council members with questions at all? Do you have any? Okay. I'll take this out to the public now. So this will be if you're interested in commenting on the ordinance of ending chapters 10.64, 10.65 and 4.02 of Santa Cruz Municipal Code pertaining to special events, please press star nine on your phone to raise your hand. When is your time to speak? You will hear an announcement that you have been unmuted. The timer will then be set to that. It doesn't look like we have anyone in the public that would like to speak on this item. So I will bring it back to council for a motion please. Vice Mayor Brunner. I move to introduce for publication and ordinance amending chapters 10.64, 10.65 and 4.02 of the Santa Cruz Municipal Code related to special events. Great. And council member Cummings. Second it. Great. Okay. I have a motion proving our ordinance amending chapters 10.61 pertaining excuse me won't rate at all pertaining to special events here in the city. And I will ask for a roll call vote. Council member Watkins. Hi. Calentary Johnson. Brown. Hi. Vice Mayor Brunner. Hi. And Mayor Myers. That motion passes unanimously. Did you catch council member Golder or was she muted? I know she was muted but she kind of cut out. Okay. I caught it. Okay. Great. We will now move on to item number 34 on our general business agenda. This is the resolution authorizing the renaming of locations and landmarks to honoring Loudon Nelson to London Nelson to accurately depict the history of Mr. The members of the public who are streaming this meeting if this is an item you want to comment on now is the time to call in using the instructions on your screen. The order will be a presentation of the item by staff followed by questions from the council. We will then take public comment and then return to the council for deliberation and action. I would like to invite Rachel Kaufman, our recreation superintendent for the presentation. Thank you, Mayor Myers. Good afternoon, Mayor Myers, the council members. You have quite a parks and rec agenda here today. See all of us a lot. So today we are bringing back to the council the question of correcting the name of locations and landmarks honoring Loudon Nelson to London Nelson. And as before when I presented, since the name of Mr. Nelson, just for clarity in the presentation, we'll refer to him as Mr. Nelson. And joining me as panelists today for the presentation are Brittany Lyndon Potter, the person who launched the petition on change.org to correct the name of the community center, Santa Cruz equity project founder Luna Bay, local historian Ross Gibson. The Loudon Nelson community center supervisor, I said Ray. Civic supervisor and the city liaison to be a friend at the town clock to see bond. And so all were a part of the project team that was formed in December with the task of researching and discussing this topic. And I'll just wanted to note other members of the project team were Brenda Griffin, current NAACP president, Anna Martin, who is the key organizer of the Juneteenth Celebration Mall Park, as you heard over the last 30 years that it's been happening. And city council member Justin Cummings. So included again in the agenda packet are historical documents and articles which both affirm the complex history of Mr. Nelson's name and show the community struggle with how to appropriately honor his contributions to the city. And so getting started, just wanted to clarify this recommendation of Mayor Myers just read that for you what you will be voting on today. So on April 13th, we came to you and asked the council to adopt a resolution just endorsing the community's effort to explore the regions of locations and landmarks honoring Loudon Nelson to London Nelson and pursue a more accurate depiction of the history of Mr. Nelson and explore further education efforts on his contributions to Santa Cruz. We also ask that you direct the Historic Preservation Commission to place an item on the May 19th agenda, the name correction, and then bring back a recommendation. So after taking the item to the Historic Preservation Commission and receiving unanimous support for changing the name, which I will expand upon in a moment, today we're bringing this item back and asking to adopt the resolution of the following that the Santa Cruz City Council approve renaming locations and landmarks honoring Loudon Nelson and specifically the Loudon Nelson Community Center and pursue a more accurate depiction of the history of Mr. Nelson and again explore further education efforts on his contributions to Santa Cruz. So that's what we're here to discuss today. And this conversation began with a petition as I noted by community member Brittany London Potter that she launched on change.org to rename the Loudon Nelson Community Center, the London Nelson Center, and the petition reached over 1,300 signatures and is still active online. Brittany was unable to attend the last presentation, as you remember, because she had just given birth to her son, but I'm happy to say she's able to join us today. And I would, at this time, like her to share her screen and her own words, the inspiration behind the petition. So Brittany, if you're there, invite you to. I'm here. Thank you so much for considering this agenda. Sorry, it was a little bit windy. I'm actually currently at the boardwalk with my son. I promised him that we would go today. So I just looked to the beach and I'm hiding in a corner trying to do this meeting. So I apologize to be here a little bit of noise and maybe some screams. But as Rachel just said, yes. So the community center has always been like a huge, huge, huge part of my life. I actually remember the day when my mom actually told me, she was like, oh, just so you do know that this center right here, is that named after like one of the first black men to show up in Santa Cruz? His name is actually walking out. It's probably like eight or so at the time. And I remember always feeling like really slighted. Like, okay, like we know his name is not correct. And yet no one does anything about it. You know, we don't call Jack O'Neill, John O'Neill. You know, we give the credit where the credit is due. And so in the midst of the pandemic last year, I really got to thinking like, what's the positive thing that I can do for our community, meaning the black community? And that was the first thing that popped into my mind. I've always gone there for like friends birthday parties for every year. That's just something that I always remember. I was popping into the center and just asking, can I use the phone? Can I use the restroom? And never being turned away and never being looked at funny because I, you know, am, the center always made me feel extremely welcome. And so with that being said, I thought why not correct this, you know, this mislabeled history? I reached out to Rachel after starting the petition and it just kind of took, you know, took off from there. And I am elated that it's, you know, it's come this far in a short amount of time. But, you know, as Rachel and you'll soon hear Mr. Nelson was, and I think with the center along with his gravestone and the other landmarks that are mislabeled, they all need to reflect who he was and then we'll also create dialogue for the community and the community will also really know who Mr. Nelson was and is.  Great, thank you, Brittany. And always, always a loyal mom there, right? Through and through. You've been your promise. Yes, exactly. Mom first. And so considering the complex history and, you know, ongoing kind of community dialogue of the name of the community center, as you know, our project team of the people I previously mentioned was assembled to research the history and discuss potential next steps. And so in January and February of 2021, the group held four meetings to see if and how to move forward with the renaming of locations and landmarks. And items discussed at these meetings included review of historical evidence, the opposition by the black community in 1984, the various locations where Mr. Nelson is honored and what further efforts, you know, should be pursued to educate the community on Mr. Nelson's legacy. And when we originally presented this item at council, we really reviewed the history in detail. And while we won't go into as great a detail this time, we still feel there are many folks who are watching, you know, maybe they missed the first presentation. And we always see this as an opportunity to share with the community of the history of Mr. Nelson and his renaming, so I will go into a little of that now. And so Mr. Nelson was born into slavery in 1850 on a cotton plantation. And in 1850, after news of the gold rush, Mr. Nelson was taken from the plantation by a slave owner to California. And Mr. Nelson was eventually able to purchase his freedom from enslavement. And after becoming a free man, he arrived in Santa Cruz in 1856 and leased a cabin along San Lorenzo River. And he farmed the land and sold the produce in addition to working as a cobbler. He was eventually able to purchase the cabin and plot of land from the owner, Mr. James L. Pruitt. And in April of 1860, Mr. Nelson fell terminally ill and he did die in May of 1860. Dr. Asa Rawson recorded Mr. Nelson's oral will upon his deathbed and also present was Mr. Nelson's friend and local businessman like Anthony who served as witness to the oral dedication in which Mr. Nelson bequeathed all of his belongings to the local schools. A year later, after Dr. Rawson's own demise, Mr. Anthony served as executive of Mr. Nelson's estate. And just know the school district later sold the land which provided the school board the means to demolish the small Mission Hill school by an adjoining Mission Hill lot and construct a four story Italian with a small high school in the attic. And today this property is the site of the Santa Cruz City Schools administrative office at 133 Mission Street. So at this time I'll share my screen and just show a photo of the Mission Hill school in 1972 and then also where the city school administration offices are now in 2021. So this is the site that was purchased with the sale of Mr. Nelson's property. And the contribution to the city is significant and many groups over time have a look to honor Mr. Nelson's generosity and support for education. But the question became the name to use to honor his contributions and his name is both recorded as London and Loudon Nelson as well as other misspellings. And again, we are lucky to have local historian Ross Gibson here to talk more about the various names of Mr. Nelson and he presented these slides before but I thought worth sharing again as they are the kind of definitive evidence that we feel is compelling that make us feel his name with London Nelson. So I'm Ross. I'm about you to speak at this time and I'll share these slides. Hello. Can everyone hear me? As we can. Thank you. Thank you. Phil Reader did the original research on London Nelson traveling throughout the South to collect documents that told part of his story. He showed that owner William Nelson named his enslaved workers after English cities, London, Canterbury, Marlborough, and Cambridge. At the Santa Cruz County Courthouse, Reader assembled around 50 documents half of which were copied a second time as a negative in efforts to read the difficult handwriting. So in the 75 documents we learned that during Nelson's life and after his death, all documents refer to him as London Nelson. Yet probate did not close until 1875 15 years after his death by which time most who knew whom were gone or had forgotten. Thus the written record became all the more important yet the poor penmanship is either London or Loudon and clerks definitely started spelling it Loudon. Next slide. One of the probate documents was written by Dr. William Slocum, clerk of the probate court, and editor of the Santa Cruz news. And he included a clipping of the newspaper probate notice which easily shows referring to the estate of London Nelson and writing notwithstanding. Next slide. This wasn't the only time poor penmanship had changed his name. Here we see his handwriting name has also been interpreted as Shannon Nelson on a mining document London Nelson on a deed Lyndon Nelson in one Sentinel article and Ludlow Wilson in one surf article. So with this wide variation of interpreting his name how can we be sure his real name is London? Next slide. The survey of sources shows all newspaper articles in 1860 and 1861 refer to him as London when they give a first name. This corroborates the handwritten documents. Yet after probate closed in 1875 the poor penmanship evolved into deliberately spelling his name Loudon on which the inscription on his tombstone was based when erected in 1876. Yet even with Mission Hill students honoring his legacy and tending a grave that reads Loudon and historians continued to insist that his real name was London. These include historian Leon Rowland in articles and books and Margaret Koch in Santa Cruz County Parade of the Past called him London Nelson also known as Loudon Nelson. Next slide. Termined that his last will in testament was the closest thing to the man himself confirming his name was London Nelson. Thank you. Thank you Ross. And on main by direction from the City Council the project team presented this item including Ross's slides the historic preservation commission and the historic preservation commission voted unanimously to support changing the name of the community center as well as other locations and landmarks from Loudon Nelson to London Nelson and included in their motion to approve the name change was a request for the project team to return to the historic preservation commission in the fall to provide update on our progress. And so in doing so the commissioners wanted to make the correction of the community center of priority as well as correcting the other locations and landmarks. And during the discussion portion of the meeting Commissioner Bliss inquired about possibly pursuing recognition of other African-Americans buried in Evergreen Cemetery similar to the Memorial Gate that was installed in 2014 to honor Santa Cruz's early Chinese immigrants and Luna Bay has been working with the MA on both correcting Mr. Nelson's grave marker and associated plaque as well as efforts related to honoring other African-Americans buried in Evergreen and given Commissioner Bliss's comments before council today of the further education efforts at this time wanting to invite Luna Bay up to share just a little more about this current work with the MA at Evergreen and how we'll be moving forward. So Luna if you want to jump on now and I'll share my screen again to go through some slides. Thank you so much Rachel. Thanks for this opportunity I'd love to share with you all some of the things I've been doing and some of our future plans. So as you can see this is the London Nelson grave marker his name is spelled incorrectly on the tombstone the plaque that was on top of him has been removed up to request, my personal request to request a bit as well as we just feel that it was fair to have the name of the person who enslaved him over top of his body. The museum has been very very perceptive to that request they have removed it and I'm currently working with them to create new language to go on that plaque to accurately honor his legacy and his memory as an individual person and not solely as an enslaved person. So next slide. Rachel do you want to go to the next slide again? So we did an event at the Evergreen Cemetery to honor the other people who are buried there. We know that there are at least six other people buried there and we have an extra spot for the unknown and the unnamed. I believe that there's a possibility that they're buried there they're not allowed to be buried at Santa Cruz Memorial. This work has been a personal passion project for me as a person who deeply is connected to especially work and especially generation. I was asked to do this project in conjunction with the 10 year old dancing cultural center and the Santa Cruz Black Health Matters initiative along with the mall and we are working on continuing efforts to honor their legacy. We have something that is we're working on the Lemonelton Research and Restoration proposal. We're proposing six different actions. The first one we're like to re-engage with the research around the genocin historical data to be interpreted as a black and rich group. We're like sort of gravestones and the first two were at the Chinese Memorial which is in line with what commissioners act for us to do. We're also like an information package they're looking for and possibly have this information in a rejuvenated heritage hall at the Lemonelton Community Center or at the mall with this information about black pioneers and Santa Cruz. We also would love to see a mural placed downtown within the boundaries of Mr. Nelson's property to hit the contribution to the city. We also would like to see a mural in the high school to be rejuvenated and to engage with the school board on making black pioneers part of the curriculum there. This is all what's prior to commissioners with this comment but it's wonderful to see how everything is aligned and hopefully as I and the mall and black health map initiative co-elect and bring this to the city to engage with the project. Thank you Luna. In addition to Mr. Nelson's grave marker and evergreen cemetery Mr. Nelson is recognized at Loudon Nelson Plaza which is by the city school administrative building with a monument there as well as as Luna referred to mural at Mission Hill Middle School and I have kept city administrators and city school representatives on this effort to correct Mr. Nelson's name and at the last city school board meeting on Wednesday June 3 the school board unanimously passed a resolution 38-20-21 titled Renaming Locations in Landmark Bring Loudon Nelson to London Nelson and it was resolved that the Santa Cruz City School District supports the name correction and commits to correct the name of Mr. Nelson at city school district locations and so that because that happened last week it wasn't able to make the agenda report but I'll make sure that city council members are able to see and support from the Santa Cruz school district so finally just considering all the information today the project team is asking city council for a final recommendation to the Santa Cruz City Council approve renaming locations and landmarks honoring Loudon Nelson to London Nelson specifically the Loudon Nelson community center and pursue a more accurate depiction of the history of Mr. Nelson and explore further education effort on his contributions to Santa Cruz and just want to highlight this item before council strongly supports the health and all policies pillar of equity as we strive for historical importance we emphasize the importance of community connectedness diverse representation in cultural life and a sense of belonging and so without that our presentation and just happy to stay on for questions or comments from council. Thanks very much Rachel and thank you to everyone involved I will go ahead and see if Council has questions or comments Councilmember Golder Thank you to everybody who worked on this as a team I think it's really important to to make these corrections to reflect the historical to remember him as he has his name and I'm happy to move that resolution as written in our past. Thank you guys and I will be back in a second to the motion because I still have to go for public comment. Yeah sorry back to that Councilmember Walkins Do you have a question? I was just going to second the motion but I also know we need to go to public comment I just really want to I don't have a question but I'll maybe take the opportunity to make a really short comment was to, from the beginning conversation to initiating it to the work that was done in terms of the research to the next steps to further this movement of really having accurate history restored and the importance of that. And I just also wanna highlight how individuals are policy makers in their own right. And this is a really great example really mobilizing the community for change. So just a huge shout out to Brittany and to Luna and to those who really worked with the city, worked with the community and brought this to fruition and now into being an instituted change policy. So super huge and incredible congratulations and thank you so much. This is just a wonderful presentation. Great, great example of really important work. So, thank you. This is out to the public now. So if you are interested in commenting today on item number 34 on our agenda, which is the resolution authorizing the renaming of locations and landmarks honoring Loudoun Nelson from London, Nelson. It's exactly to pick your Nelson, please start ordering your phone to raise your hand. Ladies, your time speak, you will hear an announcement that you've been unmuted. The time will have ended six minutes. And looking at our attendees and I'm not seeing anyone with their hand up.  You do have a motion on the floor to approve the staff recommendation which is your resolution affecting locations and landmarks honoring Mr. Nelson and to pursue specifically the renaming of Loudoun Nelson from London Nelson Center, Peering Center, pursue a more accurate depiction of the history of Mr. Nelson and explore further education efforts on Mr. Nelson's contributions to campuses. I have council member Brown, council member Kahn, sorry, Johnson is in council member. Yeah, hi, thank you so much. This is really just to express my gratitude to members of the community, Luna and Brittany and others who worked with you to bring this to the city. I think this is just an amazing example of how community members can initiate projects and bring things before the city and be heard. And the work that's, and I wanna thank the Parks and Rec Department and council member Cummings and everybody who at our end of the city and responded and created the space to make this happen. So it's been a long time coming. I'm really happy it's here today and Luna and Brittany, I think Brittany's off now, hopefully on the giant dipper or something. Your work, it's really inspiring. So thank you. Council member Kahn, sorry, Johnson. Yes, I would also like to express my thanks to everyone involved in this project. I won't name all the names because they've been names. Really appreciate honoring diversity in our past and I think it really sets us on a path we need to to honor diversity, equity and inclusion as we move forward as a city. So thank you to everyone who worked on it. Council member Kelly. I don't wanna sound like a broken record but just wanna thank everyone who's been involved in this and just seeing it go from a petition online to really become a collaborative working group that really tried to hear everyone out and figure out, look forward and determine how we were gonna come to the conclusion that we're at today. And so I just wanna thank the community members and city staff for all their hard work. I know Rachel was really instrumental for organizing the group and keeping everybody moving forward. So thank you so much for all of your help with the city and to the point that Councilor Brown made and to other colleagues. I think it's a really good opportunity for members of the public to see how reaching out to the city, forming collaborative relationships and figuring out how we can work together can really have positive tangible outcomes. And so really looking forward to figuring out how we can continue to bring these kinds of items forward and really have a government that is buying for the people. It's Mayor Brunner. Thank you to Rachel and thank you to Brittany for bringing this forward. It's amazing what a year can bring. And it's nice to see smiles on everyone's faces for this type of movement. And I just wanted to say, and Luna, thank you. You touched on some of the work that is still continuing. And I hope we can look at all of our rich diverse history in Santa Cruz and how we may continue to honor and acknowledge that history in accurate ways whenever there are inaccuracies. And so thank you so much for all the work through this past year up until this point. And this is really a historical moment. It's huge and it will go down in the history books which is pretty amazing. So thank you to everyone involved in this process. Thank you, Ross. Thank you, Luna. Thank you, Brittany. Thank you, Justin. You were involved too and Parks and Rec Department. And my thanks as well. And yeah, I think the vice mayor really summed it up nicely as you guys have made history. And I think you have a couple of numbers that are in full support of your efforts to continue to document the history. The history of folks who have been here in Santa Cruz and it's really important that that history be revealed and that those memorials be properly displayed and taken care of and honored in our community. So thank you so much for all your work. It's wonderful to see. So congratulations on what you guys have done. So we have a motion and we'll go ahead and do a roll call vote. And again, congratulations and thanks everyone for your work. Oh, did you have one more comment? Was there a second to the motion? We didn't have a motion by Council Member Colder seconded by Council Member Watts. Okay, I didn't hear the second. Thank you. Okay, we'll do a roll call. Bye. Bye. Callentary Johnson. Bye. Brown. Cummings. Colder. Vice Mayor Brun. And Mayor Myers. Aye. That motion passes unanimously. Congratulations and thanks again everyone. It is five o'clock, five o'nine, and we are going to recess until six o'clock where we roll our evening session and we'll have oral communication followed by item number 35 at that time. So we'll be in recess until six p.m. Thank you everyone. Thank you. Hi everybody. Sonya, we got a lunch break and a dinner break here. No promises after this meeting. One day to talk. Can I just share that my boys made dinner tonight? Real dinner at Rice and Salmon. My name is Sonya, I see you on camera but I also see you on the phone. Are you on phone too? That was my previous device that. Yeah, it was shut down. No worries. Remember I was having technical difficulties at first. Some members could turn on their cameras. We're going to go ahead and get started. We've got her, there's Sandy, Martin and Peter. I will go ahead and call the evening session to order. Welcome to our six p.m. session of the June 8, 2021 meeting of the Santa Cruz City Council. I have a few announcements and then we will move on to our meeting. Today's meeting is being broadcast on community television channel 25 and streaming on the city's website, cityofsantaacruz.com. All council members are participating in this meeting remotely. I want to thank the public for staying home to view today's city council meeting. If you wish to comment during oral communications or during this evening's agenda item, call in using the instructions on your screen. Please mute your television or streaming device once you call in and listen through the phone. Please note there is a delay in streaming. So if you continue to listen on your television or streaming device, you may miss your opportunity. When it is time for public comment, press star nine on your phone and to raise your hand. When it is time to speak during public comment, you will hear an announcement that you have been unmuted. The time rule will then be set to two minutes. You may hang up once you have commented on your item of interest and I would like to ask the clerk to please call the roll. Thank you. Council Member Watkins. Here. Callentary Johnson. Here. Boulder. Vice Mayor Brunner. Present. Mayor Myers. Present. We'll now move on to oral communications for members of the public who are streaming this meeting. If you want to comment during oral communications, now is the time to call in. Instructions that are on your screen. Oral communications is an opportunity for members of the community to speak to us on items that are not listed on today's agenda. In addressing the council, please press star nine on your phone to raise your hand. You will have two minutes to speak. When it is your time to speak, you will hear an announcement that you have been unmuted. We request that you clearly and slowly state your name before making your comment so that we can accurately capture it in the meeting minutes. However, it is not required to state your name. Please remember that this is a time for council to hear from the public. We are not able to engage in dialogue with each member of the public, but when we are able, we will address questions raised after oral communications has been completed. And we'll look for members of the public who are here this evening to talk to us as part of our communications. This is for items not on our agenda. I see a phone number ending in 1810, please. The problem with some, not all minorities don't score very well on standard achievement tests or drop out because too many illiterate underage students exist. Rather than blame themselves or the many, many other factors, the California Board of Education has decided the answer is to lower the standards for education, eliminate standardized testing, advance class choices, lower admission standards, devalue education, dummy the students down, remove any measure of educational performance, including their own as educators and don't choice electives with a leftist ethnic studies curriculum, including charter schools, which incorporates critical race theory in multiple subjects as their answer. Mandatory in college, it's now approved for K1 through 12. The only systemic racism in America is that of the anti-racist racist, codifying the teaching of critical race theory and policies of a... Imagine class day one, students, this is ethnic studies, lesson one, all white people are racist, always been racist, will always be racist.  This country was founded on racism, and if you fail, it's someone else's fault, the racist.  This cure is worse than the false narrative problem. They are teaching impressionable children to hate each other, cops, their country, and that minorities cannot succeed. Nowhere does parental family discipline to study, achieve, missing dads, or cultural differences get a mention to solve this disparity. Lowering standards, blaming whites, dumbing the students that emanating merit testing isn't the answer. It's a race for the bottom. Leftists and doctorators want to graduate anybody with the lowest common denominator, pulse without measurement, but with mandatory regurgitation of all white people are racist. Mastery of anti-racist racism that is officially now approved public education. This divisive child indoctrination of DJI of critical race theory is gonna result in increasing racial tension. Thank you. Next caller, ending in 8346. Go ahead, please. Is it time to comment on the CSSO? Next item, thank you. Okay, okay, thank you. I am not seeing any other hands raised for oral communications. Again, this is for items that are not on our agenda tonight. I do see a phone number ending in 1197. This is just for oral communications, which is not for item number 35. Go ahead, please. Phone ending in 1197. If you press press star six, you should be able to unmute and we're happy to hear you. I would like to know when having the meetings in person and when you are going to be extending the public comment as well as the comments that are made during oral communications or after any of the victims. You have limited it to one minute, be four minutes, five minutes. Some cities have unlimited amount of time. I'm not sure why. It is one minute. It just shows that you are not interested in hearing from the public and what they have to say. So I would appreciate you having us back into the room or having the civic, which they have done in the past. And I'd appreciate if you could also have time. I think at least three minutes per person unless there's 50 or 100 people in line, then I could understand why it to maybe two minutes. Thank you very much. Thank you. I'm not seeing any other members in the public. So we will go ahead and bring this back to our next item. Council Member Cummings, did you have a question? I did have a question. Maybe the city manager or city attorney, the member of the public, I was actually just thinking about this before the member of the public mentioned it, but I know the governor's lifting the, or there's going to be some changes to the mass order on June 15th. And I was just wondering if we're going to go back to in-person meetings for the next council meeting, or is that going to probably happen after July? Just so the members of the public have a sense, because if we're going to go back to in-person meetings, I would imagine there's likely going to be some need to kind of make the public aware of that. Right. Just thought I had that question. Yeah, there's going to have to be a transition plan prepared. The governor is lifting the mass order apparently effective June 15th, but it is not all of the executive orders that have been issued, including the executive order that authorized its meetings to be conducted remotely. Followed by town. And some mass restrictions will ain't in effect. So we don't know exactly when the city is going to be required to return to in-person meetings, but at least soon and probably into August the count, the city will be authorized to continue to remotely as we sort of heal our way forward on how the state is emerging from the infection rates. I mean, we're doing very well right now, but it remains to be seen how long that's going to hold. And the governor has made it clear that the emergency executive orders relating to in-person meetings are going to remain in effect after the June 15th lifting of the mass order. The only thing I can add to that is I know that the discussions amongst the jurisdictions here locally in our county are kind of looking at August as a timeframe to come back to in-person meetings. Okay, thanks, those are all my questions. Yeah, the only thing I would add is that we have talked, we have had a meeting with city manager staff on sort of what this looks like and our city clerk has been involved in that as well with regards to planning. So we're trying to figure it out based on the governor's direction. Okay, okay, the next item on our agenda is going to be item number 35, which is the ordinance amending chapter 6.36 of the Santa Cruz Municipal Code relating to camping services and standards. For members of the public who are streaming this meeting, if this is an item you want to comment on, now is the time to call in using the instructions on your screen. Please note, public comment will be limited to 30 minutes or we'll have one minute to speak. The order will be a presentation of item by staff followed by questions from the council. We will then take public comment and then return to the council for deliberation and action. For those who asked for extra time this evening, I'll be, we'll be letting you have three minutes each and I have four groups that have requested that. So I will go ahead and turn this over to Lee Butler, our director of planning, community development and homeless response. And Lee, you have the floor. Thank you, mayor and council members. With this being a second reading this evening, I do not have a formal PowerPoint presentation, but I do have some general updates for you and the first in the council's May 11th action, there was a request that the ordinance be made publicly available for comments and the ordinance was posted online following that meeting. Second, I wanted to give a few quick updates. The first of those is that this is now the fifth time that the council has considered changes to the camping ordinance this year. And as part of many of those deliberations and actions, the council's given direction, not just related to changes to the ordinance, but also with a wide range of other things, things like coordination with the county, conducting a census, reporting back on how the ordinance is working and a whole range of other items. I wanted to let the council and the community know that we'll be coming back to you on June 22nd with an update on a number of those items and where they're at and a quick update for you. One of those directions was to release a request for qualifications to understand the scope of interest in organizations providing the operational components of the safe sleeping or managed encampments or shelter facilities. And we did release that last month and the responses, the initial round of responses isn't ongoing RFQ, so there isn't a formal deadline. People can still submit, but we did request that the first responses come back to us by yesterday and we have received responses from five separate organizations, so that's just a heads up. And we will provide a little bit more information to the council related to that on June 22nd, but those reports are due in two days. And so we're not gonna have a full comprehensive analysis of all the RFQ responses at that point. And then finally, I just wanted to note for the council and the community that we've got 14 pages of ordinance language in front of you this evening and a lot of that is new text. We've worked very hard to get that wording right. Should the council adopt the ordinance tonight, we may still have future amendments that we bring to you. So it passed as we begin the implementation and as we hear from our stakeholder, as we learn about things that can be improved or clarified, I just wanted to note that this is the fifth time it's been in front of you, but it may not be the last.  And with that, I'm available for any questions that you may have. Okay, thank you, Lee. Yeah, I'll sort of chime in a little bit here as we start the conversation this evening. I also tracked back through this and this is our fifth time in hearing the ordinance. We have had really good response to the RFQ. So this idea of inviting our community and the qualified nonprofits to help us up some of the services that we're committing to through this ordinance, obviously we're well received. I think we've had a lot of talk about how we need to get other folks involved. And obviously, when we made the motion to include the request for qualifications and proposals from qualified, we've seen those responses. So I'm encouraged by that. And we also have seen a lot of support for the ordinance. I did want to make a note just to the public, rather than bringing this ordinance back in two weeks, which we could have done, we went ahead and extended this and gave a full month between meetings so that additional public outreach, additional time for people to read the ordinance was made available. We did sessions regarding the request for proposal and obviously city staff, and I'm sure council members were in contact with folks if they had questions. So I do feel like we've done a lot of outreach. Again, drafting and completing an ordinance is a public process. It is, we, all of us have touched this ordinance now with different amendments and I am very pleased that we're here tonight. And I feel like it's an important decision to try to operationalize this ordinance as soon as we can. So I will go ahead and open it up to council members for questions regarding anything for staff at this point. Okay, in any questions from the council, I'll go ahead and take this out for public comment. And I do have four members who are, have made a request for extra time. So I'll go ahead and start with Westside Cares. You have three minutes. Westside Cares neighborhood group is urging their council to reject the camping services and standards ordinance. We also wish to uplift the messages found in the letters from the ACLU and disability rights California regarding this ordinance. Research demonstrates time and time again that punitive and criminalizing reactions to people experiencing homelessness are expensive and effective and harmful for our entire community. It was a summary of our actual research about the effects of camping bands and why we are so strongly opposed to CSSO. Camping bands are marketed as a way to prioritize outreach and services. However, research shows that when these types of laws are passed, the increase in services tends not to materialize, but fine citations and arrest increase. When shelters continue to be overburdened and affordable housing not available, people break the law by either sheltering in public and risking harassment from police or finding more isolated and hidden locations to avoid moving camp daily. This perpetuates the cycle of homelessness. Camping bands worsen public health by dispersing people in their belongings to more remote areas of the city with nowhere to discard trash or bodily waste while also making it difficult to provide services that could mitigate these issues. Disbanding encampments further worsens public health by making it more difficult to access stable shelter, increasing fights, attacks, and theft.  The nature of having to pick up and move every single day is a well documented destabilizing force in people's lives. Even if police are tasked with outreach, really having frequent contact with law enforcement is detrimental to unhoused people. According to one researcher, when anti-homeless laws are enacted, homeless individuals have continual interactions with law enforcement that are designed to punish even if they don't lead to arrest. This creates a never ending cycle of homelessness, inflicting material and psychological harm, while deepening racial, gender, and health inequalities among the urban poor. This is termed pervade penalty. Using the criminal justice system and other municipal resources to move people who have nowhere else to go is costly, and counterproductive for both communities and individuals instead of focusing on proactive and productive solutions. This ordinance will funnel more money into the already bloated budget of SCPD, one of whose employees received over $75,000 in overtime in 2019. This is not should use of our tax dollars. At the last council discussion of this ordinance, council members discussed the importance of preventing people from losing their homes. We agree that this is important, but how can we believe that the council takes this seriously? When you voted in favor of taking steps towards building a luxury hotel in downtown parking lot, instead of prioritizing affordable housing, we can't believe what you say because we see what you do. There's no reason for us, your constituents, to believe the promised services in this ordinance will actually materialize in a way that benefits the majority of people experiencing houselessness. Criminalizing people who choose not to engage in offered services for any reason is cruel and counterproductive. We'll have some more help there if we can help with that because the time is so limited. Thank you. Thank you. Next up for extra time will be Serge. Hi, can you hear me? Yes, we can. Go ahead, Serge. Okay. Just want to make it something, a quick point. Yesterday, I talked to the Coastal Commission, the representative and Santa Cruz. As I believe all of you guys know, Coastal Act has jurisdiction over the coastal zone, somewhat like half mile from the ocean. And any development or access to the coastal zone is their purview. And we have a local coastal plan. And I was told yesterday that this ordinance, since it does affect people and their access to the coastal zone, needs an amendment to our local coastal plan before implementation, or we will be out of compliance of the Coastal Act, and as much as we've just had a whole lot of budget hearings on how financially strapped and less programs we have, we'll be open to lawsuit. And the Coastal Act also says that anyone who spews a jurisdiction and wins on a out of compliance issue for the coastal zone can have their legal fees paid for. So, so far we've been sued a few times by the homeless union. I don't think they've had the incentive to actually have their legal fees paid for. It is the seventh whereas on the bottom of the first page makes it very clear that we actually are trying to access a limiting access to the coastal zone. The end of that sentence says without a camping prohibition, the city is perceived as attracting ever more unsheltered people to a highly desirable community without the ability to provide adequate services to them, which proclaims pretty clearly we're trying to limit access to the coastal zone. So I just want to put that out there. I really would prefer that our city stops spending money on legal defenses of things that aren't really defendable and also put out the Iran Gulf needs a separate amendment to the local coastal plan. I've had this question this up before in city council and Lee Butler can probably talk about this a little bit more. He was on the emails with the coastal commission. Okay, thank you. Stay safe. Thank you. Next up I have Robert Norse for extra time. Robert, are you here this evening? I've got Robert Norse for extra time on item number 35. Okay, I'll move on to the new houseless coalition for extra time on item number 35. Go ahead and unmute yourself and we'll start. I don't know who, I don't know if Mr. Norse or the new Santa Cruz houses coalition has a phone number. I'm not sure who to unmute. Right. If the person representing the new houseless coalition could unraise your hand momentarily. I think if you want mayor, I'm okay. If you wanted to proceed and then if we get to those two I'll just change the time to three. That's a good idea. Okay, okay. For those listening, if Robert Norse or the new houseless coalition is in the queue here in our meeting attendees, we'll have you, we'll go ahead and give you that three minutes. So I'll move on to our regular time and I will call on Tom Brown. The city council again, the duration of what is really just an intractable issue. I think when I perceive right strong we appreciate the commission's willingness to reconsider the original and I think poorly conceived ordinance. The result we have in front of the council tonight I think is well balanced in its approach to address our homelessness issue and a good result, especially from where we started. So short, sweet, thank you. I think it's worked well done and very much appreciated by C. Bright strong. Thank you. Next up is skirt. Hello council members.  I worked as a paralegal. I'm an admin assistant with a special district here in the county and it's really clear to me that this could be sued if you engage in this action. I think it's pretty likely that a civil rights law suit will be lodged. I'm an engaged citizen. I'm a former Santa Cruz Derby girl. I love this town. I'm a wife, I'm a homeowner. I plan to be in Santa Cruz a long time. So I just say that although I feel anger at you and at, I'm sorry, at many of you who have been supportive of this ordinance. I'm not here to criticize you. I'm here to help you. If I could have like 30 more seconds. Yeah. I'm here to help you. Is this really how you wanna spend the next few years of your term of service in a civil rights lawsuit for discriminating against disabled people? Really hope that you think about what that's gonna feel like one year from now. Thanks. Thank you. Next up is phone number ending in 8346. Link in as the representative of Westside Cares to pick up where they work off. I'd like to start with a quote from the US Interagency Council on homelessness. Quote, the forced dispersal of people from encampment settings is not an appropriate solution or strategy. It accomplishes nothing toward the goal of linking people to permanent housing opportunities and can make it more difficult to provide such lasting solutions to people who have been sleeping and living in the encampment. End quote. Productive evidence-based solutions that Westside Cares supports and criminalization are as follows. According to the US Interagency Council on homelessness, quote, in order to end homelessness, we must link people experiencing unsheltered homelessness, including those who live in encampments with permanent housing opportunities matched with the right level of services to ensure that those housing opportunities are stable and successful, end quote. In order to work towards this goal, we would like to see at least 25% of the Santa Cruz Police Department budget reinvested into permanent supportive housing and or support services for those who live in encampments. In a 2019 internal survey of SCPD, it was estimated that 80% of calls for service are related to homelessness. Investing money into housing solutions instead of criminalizing ordinance is proven to save a significant amount of money for cities in the long term, particularly in law enforcement and healthcare costs. Thank you very much. Next up, we have phone number ending in 4844. Go ahead, Mr. Norse. Yeah, most of the arguments that Westside Cares have made of course are very pertinent to the point, but they need to be brought up in lawsuits and in on-ground action in support of actual homeless people living in survival encampments. You are clearly, you the council are not listening and aren't interested in having your own prefabricated agenda. Seems to have been cooked up by mills and the staff. The community listening who cares about this needs to work through groups like SOS, the homeless union, food and up bombs, Nomad, DSA, Copwatch, Huff, other groups. I haven't mentioned everyone, but it has to be direct action that defer the injunction that you are currently, the taxpayers are paying for it because the city attorney and the city manager are foolish enough to engage in their activities in the midst of winter and still in the midst of the COVID crisis.   You spent a whole year with catch and you ignored their resolutions. You've removed all specific locations from the ordinance giving full power to the city manager to set things up, which is, I think, an attempt to horn-swoggle even those who favor harsher camping laws, various groups who have urged you to criminalize homeless camping citywide because you can simply then just, by not having a specific location, you'll give people the illusion that they won't have homeless people in their neighborhoods. That's not the case. You know that's not the case. You aren't providing any specifics about services and instead it's the fact that people who really care about this, who really act on this, and people actually have to do something to take action to stop the kind of abuses that the city police is being directed to do, agency. I encourage people to do that and I remind you that you violated the Brown Act this morning by not providing information in the case of Eric purported being assaulted by the police as a member of the homeless union. Yet you went ahead and considered his claim without providing the specifics on the agenda for that. So that's a real pity. It should be the basis for another lawsuit and if anybody wants to do that, I'd be happy to join on to it. Thank you, Mr. Lewis. Okay, I'm not seeing any other in the audience. Oh, here we go, 1-8-1-0 please. Yeah, please care. So hey, as usual, the communists come out in force when the subject is homelessness. They have no problem with unlimited numbers of homeless here. They like to enrage those to satisfy is to justify anti-American values promoting anti-American politics. I've said it many times before. I need to say it all again. I actually am willing to support this but it needs evaluation every year or so to see if it actually reduces homelessness in the city or actually increases it. The unholy alliance between the homeless industrial complex and the government hasn't worked so far. I'm skeptical of what happens when the camps fill up or adding homeless services in the city limits permanently subsidizing homelessness with no real path out of it as far as just providing shelter which might just make it worse. And I do recognize it's a hugely difficult problem. Any increases of failure? I'm curious about those closed session leases of so many parcels at the harbor, homeless camps? What, you're gonna leave as later what it was for? I think a compromise between banning camping permanently in some areas and leaving other areas. Okay, I guess that's my time, huh? Okay, bye. Thank you, sir. Okay, I'm not getting any other hands in the audience so I'll go ahead and bring it back to council and see what we've got. If you, council member Watkins has her hand raised. Thank you, mayor and thank you to the community members who've been engaged and are with us just evening to speak to us on this item. We've just at length and as was said before I don't think this will be the last time we're gonna be talking about this but I also really feel passionately about moving forward with action and continuing to try to pursue solutions to learn from what works and to make adjustments from what we learn along the way. And with that, I know we're at a second reading at this point, so to kind of keep the, kind of the conversation in the policy direction moving on how to stop by moving the recommendation to consider the second reading and final adoption of the ordinance, number 2021-12 amending chapter 6.36 of the Santa Cruz Municipal Code relating to camping services and standards. Thank you. And I would like to see other hands. I see council member Calentale Johnson, I'm sorry, my, and also I saw Vice Mayor Bruner's hand go up. Council member. Thank you. And I'll go ahead and second council member Watkins motion. And I just wanted to comment that a lot of work has been put into this. We've been talking about it way before February but this iteration and with the public since February. And I appreciate the efforts by the team and the staff to engage the public and the community throughout this process. I have also reached out to service providers and really trying to understand how what we're offering through this ordinance will be aligned with what homeless service providers and public health providers are doing in the community as well as what the county is doing. So I'm hopeful that this will be a piece of the larger holistic puzzle that our community is trying to put forward in an effort to address this devastating in our community. So with that, I'll let others speak, let other council members speak. Thank you. Thank you. Vice Mayor Bruner, did you have your hand up and pop up for a moment? I was going to second the motion that council member Watkins had made and. I'm sorry, I wasn't sure if you were commenting or I'm sorry. But okay, please go ahead. Yeah, so I think one of the things we've gotten to is a point of where we've really got the operations and addressing some of the direction that we've implemented from the beginning in this process with the ordinance. And I am looking forward to seeing this continue to move forward and to continue to evaluate. I believe it was Garrett Phillips who was mentioning the annual evaluation. And so I think we just need to begin. And this is where we've landed through a lot of process and dialogue and conversations. And it's addressing for the first time, we're really making steps as a city to address some of these impacts within this ordinance. So that's it for my comments. Thank you very much, Vice Mayor, council member Cummings. Thank you, Mayor. I did want to ask a question first from city staff about the comments that were made by surge regarding the ordinance and the coastal commission. So I was just wondering if you all would be able to comment on that. Sure, I'll take a first crack at it and see if Tony wants to add anything. So we did identify some of our perspectives as part of the report that came to the council on May 11th. We have had communications with the coastal commission. It's clear to us that it is a LCP amendment. It could ultimately be an LCP amendment. We will continue if the council chooses to adopt the ordinance, we will engage in further conversations with the coastal commission and get to an understanding about whether that actually an LCP amendment and the implications of that in terms of the council's actions and what needs to happen in front of the coastal commission if so. But you'll see in the May 11th ordinance that we coordinated with our attorneys and we've conveyed some perspectives to the coastal commission, whereby we're not as clear that it is an LCPA. And I think should the council move forward with this tonight, then we'll have a specific ordinance to discuss with the coastal commission and come to a final determination on the status as it relates to local coastal program amendment or not. Yeah, I guess the only thing I'd have to add to that is that, can you hear me by the way? Because I'm two options. Well, there are three. One is, is this development as defined by the Coastal Act to change in that density or the intensity of the use of land or water? I think arguably not, because this ordinance really just continues provisions of 636 of the community code that we're going to affect prior to the Martin versus Poison decision. So from a legislative standpoint, it doesn't amount to a significant change in the law as the Coastal Act defines development. And then I think planning director's correct that we need to take a look at whether or not this is an LCBA and amendment to local coastal program or is a coastal development permit application required in order to implement the ordinance. I haven't heard from the Coastal Commission that they view that as a requirement, but I think we're open to discussions with the Coastal Commission and we'll evaluate any comments that they have and recommend any appropriate actions based on those communications when they take that position. And Mr. Cagno is right that a prevailing plaintiff in a lawsuit alleging a Coastal Act violation is entitled to recover prevailing plaintiff attorney season costs. The key there is prevailing. So we certainly take those kinds of claims seriously and evaluate them carefully as we move forward with the implementation of the council policy. And then a follow-up question, I guess, given the fact that it sounds like there's going to be, there's a need to have some review of this by the Coastal Commission or conversations, would it make sense to have those first before passing something? Because if my question is, if we pass something and if we're in violation and somebody files a lawsuit, you can't really backpedal from that. So. And our experience has been when the Coastal Commission feels that it's important to weigh in on this issue, even though the traditional mechanism for the Coastal Commission's purview over local government decisions is on an appeal. The Coastal Commission, it has weighed in before a decision is made by the city council. So the fact that the Coastal Commission knowing that this ordinance is before you, obviously having been receiving communications from members of the public about it and not having weighed in at this point to the city council suggests that it's probably not a critical item for the Coastal Commission, but if the commission does reach out, we can certainly bring some attention before any significant implementation activities are undertaken. So I don't see that as the basis for not moving forward at this time. Yeah, I would just add that it is, we still, as the council knows, the way the ordinance is structured, implementation will not occur until certain things are in place, storage facilities, the safe sleeping sites and so forth. And we still have some work to do to get those things up and running. So I do anticipate coordination with the Coastal Commission. In the very near future, should council choose to adopt the ordinance this evening? And if there are additional steps that are needed, then we would seek to accomplish those in advance of actually implementing the ordinance. Okay. Well, I guess I'll just make my final comments on this because we've discussed this a lot. And my biggest concerns, then the biggest concerns that I've been hearing from the community has largely been around the process, which many people have expressed to me has been rushed and people have not felt included. I've tried to advocate members of the community who've reached out, so I wanna thank you all for contacting me largely so that we could create a clear and transparent process. But we continue to push this through rapidly and even today we're hearing about how this might need to have more input from the Coastal Commission and many people felt this has been a very rushed process. And a lot of people have been in contact with, have been supportive of a lot of the aspects of the ordinance where we've landed on today. But as I mentioned before, many of them have felt that because they haven't been included and their voices haven't been included and a lot of the parts of this process that they don't feel that there's a lot of hope around their voices being included and they've been feeling really bad about not being included in this process from the beginning. And these aren't just activists, there are lawyers, parents, homeowners, professionals, retirees, teachers, renters, and I could go on. And so I'm just gonna express on their behalf that I'll be voting no on this ordinance. I do support the services that we're bringing forward and many of these people do as well. And many people do who I've been in contact with understand the need to address the issues, keeping large encampments from forming and also trying to manage those impacts. But a lot of them have felt that along the way that this has been very rushed and as a result, their voices haven't been included. And so those are my statements and I'll end there. Thank you, Council Member Brown and then Council Member Qualitary Johnson. Thank you, Mayor. I would just echo the comments made by Council Member Cummings with respect to hearing from community and the breadth within the community that we've heard from in opposition to this particular route to addressing our challenges with our on-house community members.  I think I've made that pretty clear and there's not much percentage in saying it one more time. But I do wanna raise the concern about the potential legal costs that we are, this vote will potentially take us into. And I see that reflected in letters that we've received. I see that and I hear that in discussions that I've heard about going on in the community and I just think we're, it's a big risk. And I understand that my colleagues wanna take that risk. But I think given that it's quite important that we develop some mechanism for tracking and doing some analysis of how much this costs us in legal fees to be continuing to do an enforcement-only approach. And I realize we're not doing an enforcement-only approach at this particular time, but that has been the case every other time that we've discussed this. So we're doing a little better here, but I don't think that gets us out of the legal risk zone. I'll leave it there in terms of my concerns, but I would ask my colleagues to please consider including some direction to ask for tracking of legal costs related to this ordinance and our approach to homelessness response. Unfortunately, we won't have a baseline to work from because we have never tracked this. And I wanna thank Tony Kandadi for raising it, he's trying to work on finding ways to do that. But I think it's incumbent upon those who wanna see this ordinance implemented to ask for that information. And I certainly would want to see that in the first reporting that comes back to us in terms of progress reporting. Thank you, Council Member. I have Council Member Callentary Johnson and Council Member Golder and then Council Member Watkins. Thank you. Yes, I just needed to respond to my colleagues' comments around the community process. We've mentioned before that we've taught as a community as a council, we've talked about not this council, but other councils have talked about homelessness for years now. And yes, not all of the recommendations by the catch of input forward. And some of them have. We've been with this council talking about this addressing homelessness through an ordinance since February. And there have been many opportunities for community members to participate. I've also taken the steps to reach out to community members both in favor and in opposition, truly listening and integrating their voices and perspectives in what we have brought forward and what I have brought forward. A lot of the services and the shape of what the services should look like have come from folks in the home providers world that have helped shape that. I've been hearing from a lot of community members from both sides and I've been hearing from a lot of community members that want to see action and that want us to move forward with something that helps mitigate the negative impacts of encampments and that helps move solutions and services forward. It's really difficult to make these votes. I've been very conflicted. I have worked in the homelessness world and I have been on both sides and it's a hard thing to do. It's a hard thing to make the vote. And ultimately we have to do it in order to move forward. Ultimately it is about community wellbeing. And I know that some folks out there don't believe that this is the way forward for community wellbeing. I believe it is. I believe we're moving forward with solutions. I know that some folks out there don't trust this process but I will just say for myself as an individual who really cares about this issue, who's worked on the issue I'm gonna make sure that our county staff and our city move forward with the services that we have committed to. I'm committing to that right now publicly in front of everyone and I'm ready to make the hard vote. That's all. Thank you. Thank you, council member. Council member Golder. I'd like to echo what my colleague that I helped from her colleague, Terri Johnson said. And I just have to say downtown and gone door to door and talk to people and I would argue that one of the top three concerns of maybe top five, but top three for me of every citizen in town was homelessness. Walkthrough homeless and cameras with some of you have walked through homeless and cameras with staff. I don't think this is a perfect solution. I'm not gonna pretend that it is, but I think we're at a point where we have to do something. Jenny has had plenty of opportunity to get involved. We've definitely implemented aspect-wise and I'm definitely ready to move forward and I remember coming concerns around the legal risk. I have to say the most illuminating thing for me from being on council stuff through the city. We get super, I think we probably will get sued. It's really important. And thank you, council member. I have council member Watkins. Thank you, mayor. And I just, I think I too just want to extend one my appreciation and gratitude to you for the extensive community outreach that you did to refine and to bring revisions and to hear the voices of the community in regards to the concerns, which has led to, yes, not a perfect proposal, but a community in full. And I do really share that it's very difficult to take these votes. It's very, very difficult to take risk even though it's calculated. And what it's worth though for me is to do nothing or to continue to postpone and to have no decision and no action even if there's things that we're not gonna get right and there's things that we are gonna get right, but we're gonna keep moving because we wanna hear solutions. And I struggle with that not seeing enough process as well in regards to one, just the time I've been on council and I know it's been a contentious and challenging issue for many, many years for this community. And we've had a number of ad hoc committees and community committees formed and making these tough decisions is always a really tough part. And I just acknowledged everything of one of my colleagues where I believe that we completely share a commitment to want to see solutions to the board. And as imperfect as they may be, being in action is our job and making tough decisions is our job. And so I really stand by that and recognize that it's gonna be a process of continuous improvement as is and as should be everything in my opinion, we're always learning and growing as people as government, as community and aspiring to have a healthy community for everybody. So that I do agree in that we have balanced process and now it's time for action. And that brought us here this evening after many, many, many, many, many hours of public input and community input and opportunity for community input, either us going to the community or them coming to us. And in regards to, I think a lot of the legal challenges that I share that we have a very litigious, it's a litigious environment and by not doing anything also engages us in litigation as well, right? In terms of the issues that we see bringing us to federal and dealing with large encampments once they're formed. So I'm hopeful that moving forward with solutions at the forefront will bring this issue to some pathway to seeing more people having healthier lives in our community. So with that, I am prepared to move forward as we're proposing this evening with the second reading. Thank you, member, Council Member Brown, did you have another statement? Sorry, I just wanted to say one more thing that I kind of forgot, which is, I think it's very important and I'm really doing this on behalf of the many people who I've spoken with who have concerns about another risk, likely much greater, and that is the fire potential because what we know is that we displace large numbers of people from the parts of town that are not fire prone inside the city, people go into the program that people go into Sycamore Grove and I recognize that we have a very capable and committed city staff who are gonna work very hard to prevent that, but at the same time, we're talking about not having resources to pick up all the trash. So it's hard for me to imagine that we're gonna have the resources to constantly perpetually keep people out of fire prone areas and setting up encampments. We've heard it since the clearance of Highway 1 and 9 from our neighbors up the river who are now experiencing more impact and they're really worried. I think that's just gonna get even more difficult as the season goes on. And I just wanna just remind us that that is where people will go. They're not just gonna disappear. And so, and I don't say any of this to suggest that my colleagues don't care about or wanna make people's lives worse. I recognize that we're all trying to do something that we think is gonna help address the issues. I wanna see us move forward on those pieces to act in ways that some of those services and spaces that make people's lives better and more stable rather than the actions that keep people moving around in instability and moving into places that are hidden. So as to not be ticketed and potentially jailed. So I just wanted to add that. I've heard it from so many people. I think it's really important that we talk about that and we understand that it's gonna be a different situation once we have more people moving in. And it's just is what it is. But I'm saying it because I hear it as a concern, a real fear, and I share that. Thank you, Council Member. Council Member Cummings, did you have additional comments? I just had one last comment that came up that I forgot to make, which was I really just also, well, one wanna thank everyone who's weighed in on, but I do just wanna also express that I do want the community to understand that we're not creating any false expectations around what's gonna be happening. Homelessness is a very difficult subject and the passing of this ordinance is not gonna make all of our issues disappear overnight. And so there's gonna be a lot of ongoing discussion on how to mitigate these impacts. This is gonna take more time. And I'm just hoping that as this continues to move forward and as we learn more that we can create more opportunities and processes for people to engage and feel like that they're being reached out to before major decisions are being made. I know that this has been before since February, but one of the reasons why we're still here today is because many people felt like they were left out of the conversation when this was approved, when the second reading was approved the previous time and we were gonna be allowing for sleeping when facilities were full in industrial spaces. And that was one of the things that people were really concerned about along with also saying it was okay for people to sit in our open space.  And I think when we're dealing with major topics like homelessness that we try to do our best to create, be transparent at the outset versus having people going to people after we've already began making the decisions that impact their neighborhoods. I totally agree that all of us are very much committed to homelessness and trying to help people who are experiencing homelessness, but we also have said that we're committed to creating an inclusive and equitable process for how we make decisions. And I think that we need to make sure that we are committed to that as we're making decisions moving forward. And then also wanna express to the extent we can continue having a productive and positive relationship with the County and finding ways to collaborate with them, moving forward is really gonna be critical for us to be able to make sure that these programs are successful. And so I will continue to be engaged. And although I'm not gonna be supporting what's before us tonight, that I am committed as well to addressing homelessness and trying to find solutions and working with the community as this moves forward. Thank you, council member. I am not seeing any additional hands up with council members. So I will go ahead. We have a motion on the floor by council member Watkins, seconded by council member Calentari-Johnston to consider the second reading and final adoption of ordinance number 2021-12, amending chapter 6.36 of the Santa Cruz Municipal Code related to camping services and standards. And I would ask Bonnie to do a roll call vote, please. Thank you, mayor, council member Watkins. Aye. Calentari-Johnston. No. Boulder. Vice mayor Brunner. Mayor Meyers. Aye. That motion passes with five in favor and two against. And that is our last item of the evening. And so we will be adjourning until our June 22nd meeting. I wanna thank everyone for being here tonight and please have a good evening. Thank you, everyone. Good night. Thank you. Bye-bye.