Hey, everybody, what's going on? I am Greg Salsman. Happy New Year. We're back and we're previewing daily fantasy sports wild card weekend. What's happening, Jim Sannis? I'm all good, Greg. It is hard to be not good when it's a playoff time. We've got four pretty fun games for one reason or another on this slate. So I think it should be a pretty fun weekend for some football. How are you doing? I'm good, man. I am excited to talk to DFS. I'm also on this playoff pool. I desperately need help in and I'm hoping that today you can help me win money in DFS and win money in my playoff pool. That's the goal and I think that for playoff pools there are some teams this week that I wouldn't expect to go far if they do win. So that should help you out there as well. So definitely some guys who stand out in that perspective also. All right. So let's do let's start at the quarterback spot where you're going with your boy Kirk Cousins in a matchup against New Orleans. This is probably the last place most people would expect you to go. But why Cousins in the game? They're widely expected to lose the Vikings. I guess they'll be in comeback mode all game. It's partly that. But personally I don't care all that much about volume at quarterback. I want efficiency. And when you think of Kirk Cousins on the road in New Orleans where that bad offensive line will be exposed a bit, you may not want to go here. That's part of why I like Kirk Cousins who is actually the cheapest starting quarterback on the four game play tied with Tom Brady there as both guys are $7,600. But I think we've been kind of overlooking some injuries on the Saints defense because they haven't played anybody recently since that 49ers game. That's when those two big injuries occurred. Marcus Davenport and Sheldon Rankins. If you look at what the team has done this year without Sheldon Rankins, it's been pretty scary. According to the QAN edge, they have allowed 8.15 yards for pass attempt when Rankins is off the field this year compared to 6.11 when he is off the field. That is a massive two yard difference, meaning that when those Sheldon Rankins here this weekend, we should expect Kirk Cousins to be better than a normal quarterback would be against the Saints defense. It also helps that Cousins finally has everybody healthy in this offense. The last time they had all their three big guys. Stefan, Diggs, Adam Thielen, and Daven Cook play a full complement of snaps was week six. This is the first time they've all been healthy since all the way back in week six. And the Vikings have played pretty well outside of the past couple of weeks despite those injuries, which means that here in the spots on the road against New Orleans, it doesn't match up as being a spot you normally want to attack. But I kind of think that Kirk Cousins is a good way to save some salary. He is $7,600. I want to get to Daven Cook. I want to get to Alvin Camara, Michael Thomas.  And Kirk Cousins lets me get there while still having a good ceiling. The floor here is pretty bad. So if you're playing a cash game, I would not go here. I'd rather get to Sean Watson or someone like that. But I think for tournaments, Kirk Cousins should go overlooked and he does have some upside. And I think that he can take advantage of those injuries on the Saints defensive line. So it may not be the most conventional route, but it is one I like quite a bit for this weekend. If may not be conventional, well, you're right. You have to save money somewhere. And going down to Kirk Cousins in order to get a Michael Thomas in there, well, it makes a lot of sense in this game with the game flow going, hopefully, as we expect Kirk Cousins, a fine, sneaky undervalued option here this weekend on Wild Card Weekend. All right, let's move on. Jim into the running max and let's get Daven Singletary of the Buffalo Bills. He's been really good for a while now. Why do you consider him undervalued? He's not just undervalued, Greg. He may be my favorite play on this entire slate, once you consider salary, because the Bills were in a game that they desperately wanted to win back in week 16 against the Patriots. And when you look at games like that, it can kind of tell you what they're gonna do in the playoffs. And the Bills told us they're gonna make Daven Singletary a bell cow if they're in a must win game. Because in that game in week 16, Singletary played 96% of the snaps. That is a massive rate, probably the highest of any running back on this slate. And you're getting him for just $6,200 for the full four game slate. If we look at Singletary, since he got his role change, he's out at 16.4 carries and 3.6 targets per game. And yeah, J.J. Watt coming back does hurt Singletary's matchup. When you're getting as much volume as Singletary has gotten for this salary, I don't like care as much about the matchup. I want a guy who will be involved no matter what the game script may be and who will get goal line carries as a running back and gets in targets as well. And Singletary checks all those boxes. It is so hard to find a bell cow running back who is cheap in the playoffs, but Devin Singletary actually gives us that. So if you want to get to those expensive studs like Michael Thomas, Dalvin Cook and Alvin Camara, you need to find some value at running back for that third running back slot. And Devin Singletary brings you that without limiting your upside. You know, this Bill's team could struggle first playoff start for Josh Allen. There are a lot of factors working against him. But despite that, I still think it is a good spot here for Devin Singletary. And again, he may be my favorite running back or any player on this entire slate just because of the volume he brings you at such a low price tag. Really, really cheaply priced is Devin Singletary this week. And it allows you, as you said, to go up spend a lot for the other running backs on the slate. Devin Singletary has been great. He's very underpriced. And it is Jim's favorite value on the board yet Singletary in your lineup this weekend. Another running back that's worth talking about is Travis Homer. While everyone's talking about Marshall Lynch, you're pivoting at Travis Homer. Is this trying to be contrarian or you think you'll get more points at Homer this weekend? I just kind of like the way that Travis Homer was used in week 17 more than the way Marshall and Lynch was used because we talk a lot in this podcast about running backs, getting targets. And the reason we do that is because targets are twice as valuable as a carry in a half PPR scoring setting like Fandall. And in that game in week 17 where the Seahawks needed to win, they used Travis Homer quite a bit in the passing game. He had five targets there. He had eight targets week before that in that game against Arizona. Also had 10 carries in this game against the 49ers. So 10 carries, five targets while playing 67% of the snaps. We didn't see Robert Turbin a lot in that game. And Marshall did play but he only played 31% of the snaps while getting 12 carries and no targets. So straight up between the two, I think that Homer has a bit more juice because his usage is just in a better fashion than what we get with Marshall. Now Marshall is a more likely guy to score but I think that Homer, given the targets he has gotten is someone who could potentially pay off even without scoring, which is pretty attractive. Again, it's 67% snap rate last week. That is good. This Eagles defense is one that does stop the rush pretty well. There's no Dwayne Brown for the Seahawks. I don't think they're gonna be able to run the ball all that effectively which should lead to more usage for Travis Homer and potentially more passes which benefits him as well. I think that James White is in play at 62. Sonya Michelle is right there. Carlos Hyde, you could go to Marshall on as well but Homer isn't someone who should get a lot of attention. His usage is pretty good and I think there is a path to a really good gain here. So $6,100, a very fair price for Travis Homer in general. This Seahawks team is pretty cheap so we'll talk about them a couple more times here throughout this show today but Homer is someone I think we should make sure we're not overlooking in this lower price running back range. You're right. The Homer usage was really under reported story I think coming out of Sunday Night Football last week and how much he was out there and how many touches he got, how many yards he had, right? Homer was talking about Marshawn Lynch and talking about the Jacob Hollister play. Nobody's talking about what Travis Homer did with Rashad Penny out for a while. Homer's part of the future in Seattle and maybe part of your future this weekend. Let's move on to the wild cards, Jim, and wild card wide receivers that is. And we'll start with DK Metcalf. We'll stay in Seattle. We're Metcalf over the past couple of weeks. Well, he hasn't done all that much but he's found the end zone. Can he do it on Sunday? Based on his usage I definitely think that he can because he's been getting a lot of high leverage targets even since Tyler Locke got healthy again. You know, Pete Carroll said that Tyler Locke was healthy before week 15. So we'll take his word for that and set the mark here for DK Metcalf since for week 15 on and in those three games he had just one target in one of those games but his market shares have still been pretty good. He has 35% of the D targets in those three games. He has 26% of the red zone targets and given that frame that he has you would expect that red zone number to still stay pretty good. Not quite good as Tyler Locke's numbers in that time but overall pretty solid for DK Metcalf including 12 targets in that game against San Francisco which was a must win game. Now he gets to face an Eagle secondary which we know is not that good. Metcalf got open a couple of times the first time. These two teams met didn't quite haul it in but he could do so here. He has $6,200 and that's a really good number for someone who gets the high leverage looks both down the field and the red zone that DK Metcalf gets. He brings a lot of juice to the table. He's not gonna cost you a whole lot. Now he's in a range here with some other wide receivers I do like quite a bit. John Brown is awesome. He has $6,500. Adam Dillon is right there too. Cole Beasley is an option but despite that I still think that Metcalf is worth prioritizing in this range. Great matchup with the Eagles, high leverage usage and a player who can convert in that usage too kind of checks all the boxes. So DK Metcalf a way to spend down without limiting your upside. DK Metcalf has had a big rookie year. Let's see if he can finish it strong in the playoffs.  As Jim said, the touchdowns have been there. Let's see if they can continue here on Sunday in the late game, last game. Maybe it'll be the one that makes you the cash. All right, one more wide receiver to get to and that is Will Fuller. I know when our guys are putting together the graphics today they're like, oh man, Jim's going with Will Fuller. By the time this video comes out he may be ruled out and yet you're going back to Will Fuller. That's really, really dangerous because you can start, play one play and leave while you're comfortable going with Fuller. Yeah, I mean, if you're playing one lineup and you don't want to go with that risk Will Fuller is very much not your guy but the upside is still there. And I think that's intriguing because his salary at $5,600 I think helps account for a lot of the imperfections that you mentioned because $5,600 is the range we're getting to guys like Greg Ward, like Mohamed Sunoo, like Nikhil Harry and these guys who don't have a lot of yardage upside. Will Fuller, when he's healthy, does have that. And we've seen him in six games this year alongside Kenny Stills. In those six games, Fuller has 22% of the overall targets in those games and 32% of the deep targets. Those are both really good numbers for anyone on this slate but especially for a guy who is $5,600. Now Bill's defense is very good and they want you to run on them but every defense on this slate pretty much for the most part is going to be good. There is a reason these teams made the playoffs so we can't really worry as much about matchups as we would elsewhere. Will Fuller is playing at home. He is indoors. That is the type of situation where you want to use high A dot wide receivers which is exactly what Will Fuller is. So if we don't get word before Saturday that Will Fuller is good to go, I can understand being lower on him, being lower onto Sean Watson as well as a result. But if we get word like one of those Adam Schefter bombs that midnight on Friday night that Will Fuller is good to go and expected to play then I think you can light him up at $5,600 and feel pretty good about him. So I would base my sentiment around Will Fuller around the news that we get. If we get word Friday night that he is good to go, fire up Will Fuller as often as you want. If we don't get that, maybe you want to pivot to someone with a bit lower upside like Greg Ward or something like that but I do want to go to Will Fuller if we get the green light because the salary is just way too low for someone that's good. He is really good when he's on the field. That's been the problem in the entire career for Will Fuller. If this weekend is any different, well, you may win a whole lot of money. That's how you can do it, right? Like when Will Fuller's out there, we've seen him score four touchdowns and have over 200 yards. That is the upside with Will Fuller, especially with Junerius White on Deandre Hopkins. So Will Fuller, the opportunity is there. Is the health risk worth it? It's a question you have to ask yourself when building your lineups this weekend. One last player to get to is at the tight end position. I know a lot of you are going to look Dallas Goddard's away without Zach Erts there, but you're pivoting to Jacob Hollister. How come? Because tight end is bad, and I want to spend as little as possible at this position while still using a guy who will be on the field quite a bit. And Jacob Hollister will do exactly that at $5,700. If we look at those three games that we referenced before with DK Metcalf, since Tyler Lockett got healthier in those three games, even Lockett being more involved again, Hollister still has 19% of the targets in that time. That is really good for a tight end who is below $6,000. He also played 89% of the snaps in week 17. And again, you want to look at games where teams had a lot on the line because it shows you what they're going to do in these playoff matchups. And when the Seahawks needed to win, they leaned a lot on Jacob Hollister with that 89% snap rate. So I'd love to get to Dallas Goddard. I think that Josh Perkins is also in play, assuming that Zach Erts does not go. So you've got options at tight end. Jared Cook is also really good, John U. Smith. It's not a bad slate for tight end, but Jacob Hollister is very cheap at $57. He gives us some upside. He'll be on the field pretty much no matter what. And it's a good matchup too with this Eagles team. He was wide open in the end zone in the first match between these two teams of the Russell Wilson is kind of air-billed. If he hits him that time, Jacob Hollister just needs a touchdown to pay off and very well could get that here. So it's kind of risky to have this many Seahawks in the value plays. Given that Dwayne Brown is not going to play this weekend, that is certainly scary. But I think given the salaries on each guy, they are still worth it. I think that Hollister is the one who makes the most sense because he fills a terrible position in general and he does bring a good amount of juice. So Jacob Hollister, if I had to pick one Seahawk as a value play, he would be it. Jacob Hollister was this close to finding the end zone multiple times on Sunday night. He is the one guy there in Seattle. And I get it, you want to limit the value plays in Seattle because we don't expect their offense to put up 40 points or anything like that. Jacob Hollister is a startable tight end, a usable tight end and someone we kind of like. Hollister, a fine option at a small and weak position. That's going to do it for us here on The Fan. Do a hurry up, Jim. Good luck this weekend. I feel smarter already. I appreciate it, Greg. Good luck to you as well. Good luck with your playoff fantasy as well. And hopefully we can win some money and talk to you again next week. Absolutely, I cannot wait. So let's do it for Jim Saunders. I am Greg Sausman tomorrow. We'll be joined by Gabe Marenzi to give us the six favorite bets from Wild Car Weekend. Have a great night. We'll see you tomorrow.


Welcome. It is great to have such a crowd with us this morning for this important event. Thank you for joining us to celebrate the opening, historic opening, and expansion of the Burlington International Airport. The completed terminal integration project, which is what we call this whole facility that is about to open, represents a dramatic step forward in our vision to expand this critical regional resource for future generations in a way that is safer for travelers, more welcoming and comfortable, and better for the environment for Burlingtonians and visitors alike going forward. Burlington has been proud to steward the airport for over 100 years now. Creating and continuously improving the terminal has been a big part of that stewardship. You know this is an important building, it's often the last look that visitors to Vermont have before they depart, and it's a place where Vermonters both wave goodbye and farewell to friends and family and where they embrace loved ones upon return. So we've always really believed that the terminal was a critical part of the traveling experience. We're proud of the decades really of investment into this building, and today's expansion is another important step forward for that long history. We're celebrating this expansion today, and we're going to hear from from TSA Chuck Wyatt, who's the Federal Security Director for Vermont, who will go through the details in a minute of how we'll actually pivot from the active TSA entrance that's still operating right now to this new modern facility starting next Tuesday, October 11th, and Nick Longo, our aviation director, will share some more details as well, and in a moment I'm going to hand over the microphone to Senator Patrick Leahy, who clearly we would not be standing here today without his leadership on this, and so many other airport initiatives. This future forward addition to the airport is made possible by 19 million dollars of FAA grants that Senator Leahy has advocated for and made happen in a number of ways, and it is again, this is kind of a capstone investment here at the airport after decades of investment that the Senator has brought back home. I'd also like to thank our entire talented airport team, led by the new aviation director Nick Longo for shepherding this project, and this is one of those rare projects where we hit all three goals. It's on time, it's actually ahead of schedule, on budget, and you can see, and as you tour through, and we hope you will spend some time with us this morning and get to see some of the details, whether from the artwork, or just the details upstairs with the way that waiting for passengers has been detailed, you'll clearly see the great quality that is in this as well. It is the rare project that gets all of that, schedule, quality, and budget in one project. It is exciting to have had that success as really one of our first major post-pandemic infrastructure projects. We have a lot of other infrastructure projects underway right now, and it's exciting to see this one be the first one to come to life. I want to recognize a few other groups as well. We're joined by Tim George, who's the chair of the airport commission, which plays an important critical role advising me and the city council and working with other communities on airport matters. I want to recognize the local construction and trades people whose skill and hard work make this possible, and you can really see the care that's gone into the design and construction again as you as you tour the building today. I know that every traveler to pass through these doors will see a glimpse of the best of Vermont and Burlington, a place where we invest in safety and innovation and where we value local goods, labor, and artists, and where the well-being of our community drives progress and where we take pride and pleasure and hospitality. So thanks again everyone for being here today, and with that I'd like to invite Senator Leahy to the podium. Senator, welcome. So good to see you here. Thank you. Thank you, Monroe. I appreciate that. It is also good to be home, and after 31 days in the hospital it's good to be learning how to walk again, which is which is really fun. But I remember, Director, we were here, we were just talking about this when it's just about a year ago. We were standing outdoors with the fence around and talking about we're standing right here with the new unit's going to be in. And Director Longo was explaining it to me and describing it. And I said, okay, we'll get the money, but I don't fully understand where it's going to be, and now I see this. And it's great because the first time I ever flew I was a student at St. Mike's in my teens. I flew out of here, we just walked out on the plane. It was a DC-3, if anybody knows what those are. And I've told our children once, they had flown from the time they were babies. I was in my late teens before I flew. They said, Dad, they hadn't invented the airplane, since you were before you were in your late teens. But, you know, going back and forth to Washington, usually several times a month. And I think of the times, though, that we might so and I'd be boarding the 6 a.m. departure DC. Other times with snowy weather coming back here about midnight when everything's blanket with snow. Well, it, we realized, never could have served Vermont all these years without the hundreds of Vermonters who make the airport run. It's, I've seen so many of the faces I've recognized over the years. And now sometimes members of their family, their children are starting working here. Look at all the people here, mechanics, baggage handlers, food service workers, the TSE agents. Think what they do. Think what they do day in and day out to make this part of Vermont such a thriving place that it is. So, Mayor, I thank you. I thank Security Director Wyatt, Director Longo, as well as former Director Gene Richards, to turn this, which are just drawings that I first saw into 31,855 square feet of reality directly around us. Anger birth construction, what they did.  And look where we are now. I have flown up here so many times with officials from Washington or other senators. And they come from areas much larger than this.  And I felt privileged being chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee where I could make suggestions of what either should come to Vermont and what we need for infrastructure. Because you can't be thinking of yesterday. You're going to be thinking 10 years from now, 20 years from now. How do you advance for that? And so we helped the airport become the international hub for tourism and commerce this today. Economic engine that supports our local communities and employers. But it's also a center for the innovative businesses and training centers, technology, science, engineering. This, just think of the population of Vermont. You have communities that have twice the population of our whole state. They do not have an airport like this. And we should take advantage of it. For students coming in here, for people visiting family and friends, for any field you want to talk about, we have it here. And so I thank everybody. Getting the money was the easy part. You did the hard part. And I am so proud of everybody here. So thank you very, very much. The other thing is going to make it easier. We go back and forth because after our retire, we're still going to fly back a lot to see our grandchildren. It's hard to follow that. But I have to say, look at this amazing space, right? The airport, the community that came behind us, the senator, the mayor, they have given us an amazing space to operate within. And from the behalf of the TSA to all of you and all of them, thank you very much for providing it. We're backdroped by a lot of our TSOs. They're the ones that are going to be looking to serve you in this wonderful new space starting next week, as the mayor said. The 11th of October is right around the corner. And it's going to be a beautiful day when we open up in here and we're starting to process passengers on these lanes that are flanking us right now. One of the best things about these lanes is these are the newest, latest, and greatest in TSA technology. This type of lane setup will allow our Vermonters to come through here and not have to take laptops out of bags anymore. LGA's will stay in bags now because of the wonderful technology that is in this checkpoint provided by the agency and the wonderful Senate Appropriations Committee. We look at this as the next step in the state of art, state of the art TSA checkpoints nationwide. This is a component of the entire security ecosystem throughout the country. We look forward to being at the front edge of that now. On Tuesday, we will start allowing folks and passengers and ourselves the beauty of working in here. When it comes to TSA and our belief in how we're going to support this airport, this is a major component in making the transition for the passengers easier and better. We're not going to have to have as many bag checks because of the wonderful technology as well. And I must make a plug. The TSA is behind us, working very hard each and every day, and we look forward to hiring many more of them to work in this great space. And I'll pass it over to Nick. Thank you. We made it. I am so, so happy to be here today. Thank you all again for joining us today. This is another historic milestone for our city and for this airport. So thank you. Another round for everybody that was involved and everybody that made this happen. Today represents the culmination of our incredible partnership in the vision of so many people. The new building starts the transformation of our terminal into the state of the art facility serving over one million passengers annually in and out of BTV. Our partnership with Engelberth and Jacobs has been outstanding with all their technical support and their expertise across all of the trades. So thank you very much for that. But more than just the building construction itself, we've strengthened our partnership with additional city departments. And through this process, we've formed alliances such as with the Burlington City Arts and the stunning reimagining of Maple Apple Birch, which is this new art piece off to the side with the artist Andy and Elizabeth. And Fletcher Free Library as we expand what digital book options are available to all of our passengers right here in the terminal building coming soon, coming soon. Thank you again, Senator Leahy and your entire team for your continuous advocacy for our state and specifically for our airport. And the wonderful leadership of Mayor Weinberger for your inspiration of this airport and the and growing this airport responsibly. Thank you both very much. The Transportation Security admin administration is the heart of this terminal for all of our passengers and hundreds of employees every single day. The women and men, some of them standing behind me today of this agency are our neighbors, our friends and provide an invaluable security element to our everyday traveling experience. They helped design this building. In fact, the carpet was selected by TSA. Don't know why the color blue is in there. That's just great. I can't thank them all enough for all of their service. And I'm eager to see them grow in this new space here. We are excited next week next Tuesday to start welcoming our passengers to this new security checkpoint. Providing them with the elevated travel experience they deserve right here out of BTV with all of our incredible airline partners. That's why we're here. And there's more. We're just getting started. We're now embarking on our next visionary future of the North Terminal Replacement project. Right now we're calling it next. I don't know what that stands for just yet, though. So thank you all very, very much. And now I'd like with the help of Mayor Weinberger, Senator Leahy, FSD Wyatt, as well as a few other folks to join me at the front here of the podium to officially cut this ribbon. Following, I'd like to invite you to grab a commemorative bag. Thank you, Jacobs and the team for putting that together. Enjoy some of the BTV swag that we have off to the side and some food sponsored by oh boy, sugar snaps. Sorry, sugar snap. So thank you all very much. And then we can answer any questions and explore the building. So I'd like the official ribbon cutting to take place. This is a prime example of what's not to put in your bag. No, don't look at those. A couple of photo opportunities before we cut. And then we should all start cutting.


I don't know about you guys, but as a minimalist, I'm very much enjoying the new channel template that YouTube is rolling out. In fact, I left YouTube for a week or two, just sort of took a break and I came back and so many of my favorite channels now have this in their old channel pages. And pretty soon, I guarantee you by the end of election season at least, there will be hundreds and hundreds and thousands probably more of channels that look exactly like this.  I know that I have started privating old videos, I mean everyone is doing this now because you don't know what they're going to ban you for next. Anyway, luckily for all of us, we don't really have to worry that much about getting banned from YouTube. Now of course, that would be a bad thing, you get a lot of traffic from YouTube. But one of the things I was talking about a couple weeks ago is having your own website, having your own or using RSS feeds to follow people instead of social media sites. So if your favorite YouTube channel gets banned, well you don't really need to worry that much, you just get rid of your YouTube RSS feed and replace their BitShoot RSS feed or some other kind of site. And now you have their videos just as easily as you did before. There are probably less normies watching them, but that comes with the, I don't know, you got to deal with that, you still got it. So anyway, one of the things I want to talk about in this video very briefly is PeerTube. So if you've been following me on my website recently, I made a PeerTube instance. Now my website is lukesmith.xyz, you can go to videos.lukesmith.xyz and you will see a little screen that looks something like this. You'll see some of the videos that I've done recently. Basically what PeerTube is, is it's your own hosted instance of a YouTube site, you know. You can upload videos to it, you can, let's click on one of these. So you can upload videos, people can watch, people can register for it. And the nice thing about it is, now of course normally, and I will talk about this later, you might be thinking, oh well if I'm hosting my own videos and stuff, that's probably very intensive on bandwidth and it can be of course. But the nice thing about it is it's actually torrent based, you'll see that I have five peers. That is while I'm watching this video, I'm actually downloading it from five different people. Five different people are seeding it. Because basically other people who are watching or other people who choose to make redundant copies of my videos, they can help people watch them. And also you can go here, you can say download, I want to download this video. You can actually just download it either directly or preferably as a torrent. And that allows you to not just download it but also support it, seed it once you've finished downloading it. So anyway, PeerTube is a very nice little system here. It gives you basically everything YouTube, it even gives you stuff that we've talked about like RSS feeds automatically. Now I think, I forget how you do it, so in the same way you can subscribe to a channel. Let's actually, let me go here, I think this is my channel.  It gives you an option if you want to subscribe via RSS. So you can actually just get a RSS feed for a channel and stuff like that.  Now you might say, okay well that's nice Luke, you have your own video site for your own videos.  Well first off many people might do that but to be clear how the real important part of PeerTube is that it's federated and what that means is if I go to just my main page, I'm not really using this feature yet but if I go just to my main page it just has these videos that are on my site. But you can actually follow people or people's instances can follow you or you can follow them and that will display all of their videos on your site or vice versa. So actually I have pulled up here, here is a list of my followers, like some of the instances that follow you. Now this is not the same, you can create an individual account on a PeerTube instance. That's one thing but if you follow something that basically means you have your own PeerTube instance and you're looking at the videos there, oh let's see some of these might be going pretty slow just because my internet is slow. But how it works is effectively you can go to one of these sites and they're going to have their own videos and whatever videos of the instances they follow. So if they follow me you might see some of my videos in here. So here's this instance, I don't see any of my videos right off the bat but all the different instances they follow will appear here. So it's very nice, it's very convenient, it has pretty much everything that YouTube has. It separates just more free or it's all free software, you can install this on your own server. You can join it to join PeerTube, you just join any of the instances and your account is tied to one of those instances. Not all instances allow you to join, I think mine I have the user cap at like 5,000 or something like that so you could join if you want. So anyway, so what are the annoying parts of this? Well the annoying parts of this are obviously I'm hosting my own videos which can be a lot of bandwidth and can be a big pain, obviously I only have less than 10 videos right now and they don't have that many views because I haven't really told people. I think I did a little blog post yesterday talking about that I had a PeerTube instance. But the, what was I going to say? So I'll go ahead and show you. So I have this little Vulture server, this is the thing that it's running on now I want to say, yeah, I have a bandwidth cap of 1TB, 1000GB and you can see, well this is my bandwidth usage and this is like not telling anyone that it's out here. Now once I put up this video, there are probably going to be a lot of you guys who click on this and you're going to see this massive orange spike. So the issue is I don't know if I actually have the bandwidth to do this or the storage space either. I can actually upgrade my bandwidth and storage space with a different plan but of course it costs money. Obviously I want to do PeerTube but especially if I end up getting my own server I either have to use a more expensive VPS. I might be paying like 80 bucks a month just for that or if I get my own dedicated metal server, get my own actual server for it that'll cost a couple hundred bucks a month. I cannot do it absolutely where I live because I don't have the internet for it. So I don't know if anyone has either a VPS host that's extremely cheap and does like unlimited bandwidth that would be nice. You can tell me about that. Vulture works for like 99% of use cases and in fact it works better than most but I don't know if I want to pay like 100 something bucks a month. Either way of course if you want to support the PeerTube instance you can go ahead and go to lukesmith.xyz slash donates because I should probably ask people for donations more often but as you may know you can donate to me here. You can set up recurring donations whatever. I brought back a Liberapay which apparently still exists or whatever. Liberapay whatever it's pronounced. So anyway I recommend if you want to support my efforts go download or go donate or something but if you know any other kind of way of me hosting these videos feel free to let me know. I'm just trying to figure everything out trying to do it efficiently but until then go ahead and go to PeerTube if you want to watch any of these videos just go there and watch them. I just want to see how much bandwidth usage I might end up having to need or something like that. But I am going to be doing PeerTube exclusive videos from now. I'm excited because I know there are a bunch of things that I can't say on YouTube, can't do on YouTube anymore but I can easily do on PeerTube and it would be very nice. I'm thinking about doing some videos that would probably go against YouTube's terms of service because they're so stupid nowadays but I'll probably do that there. I want to start easing out of YouTube. I would rather, even if I have to pay out a pocket for a server I'd rather live on donations than living on YouTube ad revenue and I sort of feel the same way about Patreon frankly. I still have a Patreon but I'd rather use Liberapay or something like that or just the normal recurring donation. So anyway, that's just what I'm thinking. That's what's been on my mind the past couple days. So anyway, that's about it. I guess that's an explanation. I'll talk about PeerTube a little more but it's very nice, very well integrated with RSS just a sweet service. So anyway, see you guys next time.


Hello, hello, hello and welcome to another coordinating call of the M25 the movement for Europe featuring progressive ideas you won't hear anywhere else. Today we're going to be discussing communication, specifically, how do we communicate our policies now let me give you a bit of background in April 2019 we launched a campaign called the Green New Deal for Europe. Its purpose was to unite political forces, community activists unions around a set of proposals to combat the twin crises of austerity and climate breakdown but a lot has changed since then. Obviously the political landscape has changed, but also at least in the progressive world, as they say in English, everyone and their mother has a Green New Deal. So we've decided to re brand our Green New Deal for Europe campaign to repackage it to pitch it differently. And we're in the middle of that process. This is one of those working discussions. So this will be a brainstorm to decide what direction do we actually take in terms of rebranding, because ultimately, this will be the campaign and the proposals that will be taking to the ballot box in forthcoming elections that we whatever we decide to compete in you out if you are thinking I've got some idea for your brainstorm or you just disagree or wildly agree with something that we're saying please put it in the chat on YouTube and we'll read your comments out between the interventions. Now I will hand it over to Dushan who is our Green New Deal for Europe coordinator Dushan. Thank you Mehran and hello to everyone who's watching us. Basically before we get the backlash right away, let me explain that we are very well aware of certain disadvantages of rebranding, but we just think that advantages outweigh. Basically, yes, there is a possibility of losing good rebranding, we know that we have nice colors and nice website and stuff like that. And that Green New Deal is well known name that's usually attractive to public. On the other side, it's not really representative of DM, not just its colors, but it's also its name. And we need something that is going to be resonating better with our target population, which is 99%. And Green New Deal, yes, attracts people, but it attracts only, let's call it intellectual elite or environmentalists and so on and so on. And we are trying to fight with and for the people that are much, much, how to say it, broader category. Also, unfortunately, even though our Green New Deal, as Mehran already explained, was one of the first, especially for Europe. It can now be easily confused by the other deals that outsource it does because of money and other resources, like Green New Deal by Greens, UK Green New Deal. There is also now that so called Green Deal by European Union. And the thing is that we really don't have time to explain what is Roosevelt's deal and how is ours Green New Deal, different from all the others, let alone that the people that we are fighting with and for have time to do that, they don't. And let's not make it a technical matter because it's so much more Green New Deal, or whatever the future main is going to be, needs something that's self explanatory and something that's being integrated inside of the M structures, because in the end of the day that's our blueprint for Europe just transition. We have other things on the agenda, other than just rebranding, like opposing the ratification of SETA, because if it gets ratified by national parliament, it's going to be a disaster. And only because, because there's a possibility to do so because of certain, let's call it loophole by European Union. We actually have the chance to stop the elite in most direct way to do so. So we have other actions that we need to organize around in the most direct way and to make European Union and Europe in general democratized so let's go on with this and let's have something that's really DM like workers friendly and something that's both radical and realistic in its name and in its nature. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks to Sharon Ivana. Thanks. I very much agree with everything Doshan said, and especially this. I think we're losing you there Ivana. Unfortunately, would anyone else like to speak while Ivana sorts out her internet connection. Very quickly. I'm super happy with this rebranding and it comes in time. The G20 is meeting in Naples very soon on climate issues. So it might be like, you know, like a good target to test the new brand in even just to do some test groups on which like testing styles and so on. And connected with that and guess that you're aware of that. If not, I can send you send you the details. Thank you. Renata. Any other thoughts on that I know one is this disconnected for a bit and she'll be coming back in a sec. I can try without the video. Okay. Try without video. Go for it. Sorry for the internet. So basically the rebranding. I mean, if we decide that we are gearing up for 2024 EU elections, then we should also look at our overall policy proposals and how Green New Deal then fits into all of this. And it's not then just about the name and the branding, but much more and how to emphasize the social policies that we have hidden inside. And people are often misguided that it's just quote unquote about green transition and not also about the basic goods for example. Thanks. So I'm a barrel. Yeah. Sometimes I'm being very pessimistic, but should we not be a little more realistic because green new deal. Let's look to these three words. These concepts. I mean, green. Yes, it gives a hope for a beautiful world. But new the concept new is really not a convincing concept at the moment. Because of instead of new, probably we should say urgent and the same with deal. Is it deal or is it rescue. So I asked myself these questions and yes, Green New Deal is positive optimist and very attractive. But is it true. Think about it because let I'm living in Turkey and the three C's Black Sea again, and the Mediterranean is under political and ideological assault. So let's I think I also agree that we shouldn't think about the the title but the content and the truth behind this content. And secondly, I think we should concentrate on these three C's because these three C's are not only ecological issues, but also very cultural issues. It is connected to culture to historical culture to memory. I mean, let's accept that this region we are living in is the most memory full of region of the world. So this is my opinion. Thank you for our Yanis. I have an attachment to the Green New Deal, which is personal. And that's because I gave it. First time I spoke of a Green New Deal was in 2002 in Brussels in the European Parliament that gave us a talk to the progressive caucus it existed back then comprising the left and the greens. And the social democrats and I gave a speech in which I was advocating a Green New Deal in 2002. So you can imagine, given that the Green New Deal was also the main policy of am I frozen? Can you hear me? We hear you. We hear you. So everybody was frozen. So I'm saying this because I'm the person that has the greatest reason not to ditch the branding of Green New Deal. But having listened to do some we need to do to digit. There's no doubt we need to digit because it has been replicated. It has divided and multiplied.  And it means nothing. Even the European Commission has a green deal. Okay, they took the new out. But they now the term means nothing. It's been emptied of content. The, you know, when ExxonMobil came up with a research paper entitled the importance of the Green New Deal. I thought, okay, all right, that's it. Now it means it is it is census. Okay, that's point number one. Point number two. We are in the process, not just of rebranding the Green New Deal, but also of rethinking DM 2.0. A more radical DM, a DM that goes beyond the lofty ideas of democratizing the, you know, Europe. A more radical DM that looks at capitalism and its latest incarnation and makes plans for post capitalism. Given that the Green New Deal is our main agenda for doing all that. That has to be reflected. The word green has become conservative. The word green, green is a new brown. You can you can see that from the way in which greenwashing has become an art or a science or a combination of art and science. The greens in Germany are what what they are. So I don't need to see more of this. So I think we need to drop not just the whole title but even the word green from our title. Time ago I've been putting out the the ideological and analytical position that the 25 is relies for many of our policies on green Keynesianism, but we're going beyond green Keynesianism. I had an article remember beyond green Keynesianism. I think that the new manifesto that we will come up by next February is going to signal our move beyond green Keynesianism anyway. Okay, so what should the new branding be? I haven't had much time to think about it. I mean that in that the word ecological is one that we must be playing teaching the word green. The words new and deal, but I was right, have to go. So off the top of my head if you put a gun on my head now without having had an opportunity to think about that this is simply put for thought.  I'm keeping notes here on my phone. Something like ecological post capital share prosperity. Somehow to combine the notions of shared prosperity post capitalist and ecological. I'm not suggesting that term right.  But I think ecological post capitalist and a prosperity a version of prosperity, not growth, not development, not industrial, but prosperity that the shared. That's my two and a half cents for the time being. I was wondering how we would fit that on a T shirt. A couple of quick comments from the chat here. Suggesting from Emilio you are DM, it should be named DM new deal on it. Another which I think little tongue in cheek perhaps. He says green nuclear deal is a better name. And another suggest is emphasizing sustainability over green from Sean saying Rosemary over to you. Thank you. I think we're beginning to demonstrate forcibly the enormous terrors of attempting to come up with a name off the top of our heads. However, I don't think that we can hide behind the excuse that we want to be talking in depth about content forever because actually this art form, which is called finding excellent names things is one that in the commercial world they pay millions of pounds for to people incredibly talented because it is such a very specific craft. So having set myself up for a huge fall. I'm now going to put my faith in the suggestion which is DM green transformation. I like this idea because I actually do think we have to hang on to the green. I just don't think DM's ecological transformation does anything to make us more accessible. And for me green says something about the relationship between man and nature. I think that's absolutely vital part of the dialectic here. I want to go on to talk about why I think the relationship between man and nature is mirrored at this moment in time for the future of the species actually in the importance of the relationship between man and man or woman and woman at fellow human beings the relationship between fellow human beings on the one hand side and the relationships between man and nature on the other. So, yes, I'd like to throw DM's green transformation into the mix and transformation is important because it doesn't monkey around with pretensions of revolutionary glory, but it does suggest change which is truly transformative. And whatever else we're doing, that's what we're engaged in here. Thank you. Really interesting discussion to follow. I hope also the viewers enjoy it and please write more suggestions into the chat so we get more ideas going. We'll also reach out to the membership and ask for more ideas and a wider brainstorm to bring it back into this group. I just wanted to say, bring a little more of a strategic point, because we have also a progressive agenda for Europe, which is the name for our overall policy program, where the Green New Deal for Europe has been a part of and other policy papers like peace and social policy or technological sovereignty, migration and so on fall under. And I asked myself the question, shouldn't we take the name for overall policy program and turn this into a campaign, also campaigning for these important topics that I just mentioned about this, of course, that I now have mentioned to also think ahead towards the European elections in 2024 and possibly already have a name that we are putting out there in campaign activism that we then also can use and show as an electoral program to really make full use of our double strategy of movement and party. So that is my contribution. I haven't come up with the really good name proposal like others you have. I hope some more speakers can bring some interesting proposals. Thanks. Thank you, Johannes, a comment from Zoe Lujic on the chat agreeing with you Rosemary transformation is a very good word to use especially as we're working on transformation of energy within our Green New Deal for Europe policy revision work. Any other, any other comments from any of you guys still thinking digesting. Who wants to go next. Let's go.  Yeah, it's too sophisticated for me, you know.  Yes, this is a working meeting which happens to be life transmitted. I must honestly say that I think it's impossible to find a name now today of course and that we will have to brainstorm more and also crowdsource different proposals but what I think is the most important thing is, of course that we all agree on the content that we all agree that the end 25 has to be both as Dushan said realistic and radical at the same time. You know I'm saying this at the moment when today, two interesting events happened on the one hand Ursula from the land of the European Commission is in a visiting Croatia. Shearing the recovery plan so called recovery plan at the same time Victor Orban is meeting Alexander Wucic in Serbia. Why is this interesting because at the very beginning when, when the European Commission announced European new European Green Deal without the new Ursula from the land said that her leadership of the European Commission would be a geopolitical one. And what we can see what is playing out these days is precisely geopolitics on the one hand the greenwashing of the European Commission with a green deal which is nearly not sufficient to get us out of the other climate crisis and the very slow transition towards sustainable energy. At the same time the problem of the European Commission of course is the externalization of costs and extractivism which will continue. So on the one hand you have this Europe this European Commission on the other hand you can see that the new block is being formed. Serbia is particularly interesting. I know many members from Serbia could say more about it because of the extraction and the mining which is going on now. Both on the one side, on the one hand, the real thing top mining company, which is extracted lithium, or trying to because there were big protests in Serbia and the petition on the other hand is China and copper mining. So what I think besides thinking about the name we should think about geopolitics as well in which way a Green New Deal is not just a European Green New Deal or a Green New Deal for Europe without taking into consideration other countries the externalization of costs and the extraction of lithium for instance now in Serbia which is part of Europe but not part of the European Union. I think we have to broaden our policies or when it comes to ecology and sustainable development. I don't have a name now. Of course we will have to continue talking about it but I think we have to go much more radical against extractivism and externalization, which again means also to go much more radical against greenwashing, especially given the fact that now everyone speaks about a Green New Deal. And even as Jani said, big business is now also talking about Green New Deals. So, you know, when you have the ocean burning in front of your eyes, I think it's insufficient and important to talk just about a new deal. We have to be much more radical than that. Thanks, Srećko. And as you implied, just there for viewers that are just joining, we're not just talking about picking a name. We're actually using the name of this campaign or the renaming and rebranding of this campaign as a prison through which to look at what we would like to focus on in terms of the content. Luis. Thanks, everyone. Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with what Rose Berry and Srećko said about us not being able to, you know, come up with such an important piece of marketing, let's say, what it is on the fly. I would, however, like to make a note about dropping the word green as well. I think that, you know, doesn't really work with us and great about confusion. So I very much like, you know, sustainability to be an element in the name. Now, there's an aspect that I'd like to discuss and I'd like to hear Duzan's thoughts about it, which I think it's connected actually with what Srećko just said, as to, you know, to make a very valuable and really the best content. I'm sorry for the lack of modesty, but I think that a great new deal, as it's got right now, continues to be innovative and, you know, avant-garde. How to make that popular and spread out. And by these, what I mean is how do we become part of the conversation, even in the institutions and all these things that, you know, are taking place right now. I think that's really important. I think that we need to, you know, get in and jump into the official discussions because we are limited on the fridge. And in order for us to, you know, make our voice heard, we also need to be part of those conversations and say, no, this is, you know, the right way to go. I'm speaking about all these forums, you know, Renata mentioned one, you know, we need to have into those conversations as well.  And we need to be there like it or not. And the second point connected with Srećko, I call holiday free. Ours is a blueprint that needs to be taken globally, you know, from here to Latin America and everywhere else. So it's no longer a pan-European thing because because of our DNA or international DNA and for things to work. And because we are present issues that actually global interconnected, we need to, you know, go one step further and go global with it. And of course, we have the Progressive International to help us do that as well, you know, and other tools. So, but I really want to hear what Duzan has to say about taking part of that, those conversations as well. Thanks, Louis. Duzan, would you like to respond? Of course, yeah. Thank you for the question, Louis. And first of all, let me just stress something before I answer to that. That really green new deal is much more than just environmentalism issues. So it's heavily, heavily connected with everything that the N does. It's our project campaign and most probably political programs. So it has housing, jobs and all the others. And we identified some gaps inside of the blueprint. As Rechko was speaking, influence on so-called global south is one of them. Even though we mentioned some structures and shutting down tax havens and don't letting the companies to go to other countries. We also have some more job to do. And we also have to incorporate aspects from Yanis is another now inside of green deal to help our blueprint for post capitalism to be even more even deeper. So, getting back to what Luis said. I think that through NC's are national co-actives and our provisional national co-actives and through all of our DSCs, we have to work with unions. We have to mobilize the people mobilize are already a registered members who are more than 150,000. And as you know, the majority of them are not really active. So let's mobilize them first and let them identify with the end and green deal and our ideas and incorporate that inside of their identities. Then they can work to mobilize trade unions, workers unions, and we can really be present on occasions where it's important to be like we applied for COP26. As you all know, unfortunately, or not unfortunately, we'll see we got rejected. We assume that's because they found us too radical or whatever, but we didn't have an individual answer. And that's why we are going to have alternative cop called cop off, because we need to have our voices heard, and we need to provide the platform to the people, and all the others that don't have the space in mainstream media and mainstream spaces because they voice their voices are not heard. Unfortunately, variety of coalitions taught us that we are much more being used for policies than than we actually get from from those coalitions. So, right now, I'd say that we have focus focus to be political movement and to be to have structured electoral beings that can push this political agenda and this political program without compromises we don't need seats. We just need this program to to be in life to be in Europe. For that, we need much bigger acknowledgement by the broader public, not just environmentalists, as I said before, and we need to be out on streets. Unfortunately, COVID made it hard, but we are thinking through how to how to make it easier for our comrades to be on the streets. So that's one one aspect, and there's also multiple others like trying to reach the media which which will provide the platform we are also working with Green New Deal hubs that share our resources around and so on and so on. But most importantly, if you ask me, current issues need to be debated from the stance of Green New Deal for Euro policy. So when we have DMTV, when we have interviews, let's debate those issues from the stance on how they can be sold because we already have the blueprint on how they can be sold. And now let's present it to the public. Sorry for taking so long, but it's a complex issue. Thanks, Tushin. Interesting thoughts. Yanis. No, Juliana. Juliana first then Yanis. Thank you. I also don't have any concrete proposal today, but I like the direction of this post-capitalistic transformation plan sort of thing because people, you know, I think most importantly it is if people hear the name of it, it's what they associate with it. And with the Green New Deal, in the past years, I felt like the key question for people was, is it only for the environment? Like people were like thinking that it is primarily about saving the earth, so to say, and that the people that are living in the present are like secondary in this sort of program. So they have questions like, what's with my job? Or how will the future look for the people? And I think that the name has to be of this sort that people associate with their lives. So they think, okay, this could be something for me because we had this word also holistic, you know, it's speaking to everything and everyone. So I think this is important direction. Why also, this is also the reason why I think that the green is problematic in itself, not just because of the greenwashing, but because of this misunderstanding of people that they think that the green has nothing to do with real life issues, but more specifically with just having an energy transition and so on and so forth. So it's a very complex word nowadays, the green, because there are too many associations with it. So yeah, hopefully it would be great to have a name that is not only not too intellectual, but that can be have a holistic meaning and be explained easily to people with, you know, to talk about the core points of the program rather than to have to explain its existence, because this is kind of what we have been doing with the Green New Deal is to explain its existence much more than its content. And yeah, so it would be great to have a name that points to the content already much stronger. This is only what I wanted to add. Thanks again. Yes, you're absolutely right. Now, yes, we're ditching Green New Deal. I think that there's a consensus there but let's not forget what a good name it was, because unlike, you know, green transformation rosemary, which is a standard Green Party argument since the 1970s. It's not bad, except that, you know, there's no differentiation between what the green movement has been saying since the 1970s and what we're saying. You see, the reason why I retrieved the New Deal in 2002, and added green to it, was because the New Deal was in 1933, a very clear program for taking the money of the rich and pressing it into the service of the many. And that's what Roosevelt did. That was like the New Deal. What was it that did it refer to. It referred to that which the Greens today in Germany, for instance, do not understand that you don't need to tax people in order to spend on creating jobs, green energy, whatever. The point of Roosevelt was in the New Deal, we are not going to tax in the middle of a depression, right. But there is all this cash here, sitting idly by, we're going to put the bankers in a box. Yeah, in a kind of prison. We're going to stop the bankers from doing banking things. And we're going to find public financial tools like US Treasury bills, by which to soak up the liquidity from the banking system and create jobs with them. That was the New Deal. My idea in 2002 is you add the green to make sure that the investments are not brown. They are not in creating more motorways for gas gasoline cars to speed across America, right, that you're using it in order to create a green energy union, for instance. That was the original idea of 2002. So the Green New Deal embeds the social, the anti-finance and the green transition or green transformation. So let's not be, let's be clear about that. Even if you all agree that we're going to ditch the Green New Deal. These are three very powerful words that capture a great deal of what is important. And we're going to have a huge problem replacing them. I'm not against replacing them. I already said simply because everybody has jumped on the bandwagon and now they have created an inflationary process diluting the meaning of the three words Green New Deal. We don't have the name yet, but you know, it's good. We're brainstorming. At some point the name will come to us. But I think it is important to have this conversation. I don't like the idea of sustainability at all, Luis, because it's conservative. I don't want to sustain anything. I want to change everything. Now I know you what you mean sustainability in terms of the environment, right? I don't think that we even want to say that we want to sustain the ecological equilibrium that we have because the ecological equilibrium we have is really bad. I mean if you look at most ecosystems, right? Even if we do nothing, they're in trouble. So we want to change the ecological systems. We want to improve them. We don't want to keep them where they are. So anyway, I think that the word sustain, the verb to sustain is a conservative verb. It's not part of DM 2.0 of the new radicalized DM. I don't like the word green. Only because it has been completely taken over by everyone else. Transformation is great, but it's not enough because the greens have used it because we are already experiencing a transformation. You know, article in the techno feudalism, it's a transformation of capitalism to techno feudalism, not this transformation, not necessarily a good thing. So, you know, we're going to have a huge task of finding two or three words that will replace the meaning and the signifier of the Green New Deal. I do believe, and thank you to someone I think Juliana said it, or Ivana said it, one of the two, that it is important to signal that, effectively, we are adopting a modern version of socialism, that we are radicalizing ourselves and we are moving towards an eco socialist agenda. Those terms are horrible because everybody has taken them. You know, every man and his dog, I won't mention his mother, has taken eco and socialism and put it together. But anyway, you know them. Thanks, Janice. A couple of comments from fellow brainstormers on the chat here. John suggests that regeneration could be a good term. Janet finds transformation a wonk word. Sorry, Rosemary. And Henry Wallace suggests that we go a little bit more radical with anti capitalist or a similar sentiment needs to be in the name so that it's hard for the project to be co opted and that we can set our sights and so we can set our sights on the transformation to post capitalism Rosemary. Yes, I just wanted to observe that what I'm sort of learning from this conversation is that we do have the danger and inherent contradiction in what we're looking for which makes our task even more difficult which is that on the one hand we're seeking something that distinguishes us from everyone else and is particular to our particularity, but on the other hand we want to stay accessible and staying accessible is partly being involved in the language that everyone uses. So I think that is a genuine target in the whole full process. We need to, you know, look at straight. Thanks Rosemary any, any responses any comments. Okay. Janice, go for it. Yeah, it's right. As Henry said we need to be connected to the language everybody uses, but at the same time we need to add the twist that distinguishes us so that that's the twin difficulty that we have the reason why I took the floor again is because I want to suggest that we should also do something completely off its rocker or off our rocker. That is, you know, let's not try to replace the green new deal with an ecological green transformation with post capitalist elements going beyond socialism, you know, how about, I mean I was thinking now of David Graber's great expression, everything could be different. How about, you know, deems, everything must be different policy. Now I'm not suggesting it, but I'm trying to think of an alternative way of approaching the name that it should be, you know, something that gets you there and pulls your, your heart strings. Okay, and then people can actually find out what it is. Just putting it out there. Thanks, Janice. Another thing to put out there perhaps is that I've noticed several political parties, not necessarily political parties whose views we agree with. Rather than talking about programs or manifestos they're talking about contracts contracts with with the people contracts with the voters. This could be another thought that might just add to the mix. Anyone else. Well, since nobody's speaking, let me, let, let, let me say something that I need to say. It's got nothing to do with the topic. But since people are watching, some of our members are watching and maybe some enemies as well. Who knows. Let me say for the public that is watching us that the letter that we signed yesterday here in Greece. 95 members of parliament, sending it to President Biden on behalf of Julian Assange was a difficult letter to organize. And it was very difficult for me personally and I'm saying this in public I don't care. I see that we co-signed it with Syriza. I consider Syriza to be a toxic party, a party that has done enormous damage to progressive movements across the world. A party that refused to come to the aid of Julian during the worst and darkest hours when I was calling upon the Syriza leadership to do that. As I keep telling friends and comrades, what matters today is Julian. What matters is to respond to Stellar's and his team's request that we get as many parliamentarians to sign similar letters to Joe Biden. Because it is crucial that we get him out of there. And if this means that we put our signatures next to those of people that have in the past demonstrated an incapacity to do the right thing by Julian or by progressive causes, we will do that. Because what comes above all else is to create maximum pressure to have him released. Thank you, Janis. I'm going to hand it over now to Dushan just to close the topic of the discussion. Dushan, wrap it up. Let me just first invite our viewers and members inside of our three newly established thematic DSCs that are going to be actually focused on the third revision of our Green New Deal for Europe policy, which is a big step for us. And we definitely need your help. So if you are interested, first in agriculture and animal rights, then in establishing new green jobs and what does that mean? And thirdly, in energy just transition and nature preservation, please contact us. We will create, we will, you all actually, sorry, there's already a thread on forum regarding that, and you can join our matter most where all the communication regarding the campaign is happening. Also, we are going to democratize the process of rebranding and name change. So there's also going to be a forum thread on that, where we are going to call you to submit your proposals. So, yeah, that's, that's all in that regard. It's rebranding is just one of the things that we are focusing right now in the campaign. 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Who was in Ninda Rising's talk on estimation and deception? All right, so none of our lapping audiences. That's fine too, because none of this is going to be already familiar to you. I'm just two words about who I am. I'm a freelance consultant. I'm interested. I used to be a programmer, so I know a little bit about tech stuff. Nowadays, I'm into consulting, which means I'm also interested in the dark side consulting and management and all that. Who's a programmer? Who's not a programmer? Interesting. So let's talk after. I want to know what you're interested in in this topic. But for everyone else, I think we should be on the same wavelength of what design means. But I'm getting ahead of myself. So practices, that's the essential point of this talk. Now, shape of the S, that's a good transition into another S-shaped thing, money, value. What am I hoping that you're going to get from this talk? My intention is that you come away from this talk with a better sense of why in agile design is approached the way it is. Why, what is the relationship between things like per-programming and test-reven development? Is it coincidence that there are those two things in, say, extreme programming and refactoring? Did they happen to be thrown into a pot and stirred? Or is there a deeper relationship? That's the first thing I want to talk about. I would like you to come away from this session with renewed enthusiasm for doing some practices that you have maybe doing, but not quite as much as you should or you think you should. Who's doing test-reven development? So there's some margin, right. Who's writing unit tests? We didn't raise their hand before. That's a joke. I hope that you can also, for those of you who are already doing test-reven development, so the others will be convinced to try it because they have a better understanding of how.


In this module, we are going to discuss some fundamental concepts related with Islamic banking and finance. These concepts are fundamental not only for Islamic banking and finance but also for Islam in general. We have chosen three fundamental concepts for this segment. Number one, Deen, Number two, Sharia and Number three, Pick. These three are very important concepts. If we understand them, we can get very useful information about Islam. Along with this, we can understand the spirit of Islamic banking and finance because of these three concepts. What is Deen? Deen is a very general concept. We sometimes make it very specific. If it is stated in very general words, then Deen is recognition of the universal system and living a life in harmony with. Allah says in the Quran, Inna Deena Ainda Allahi Al Islam. Deen is only Islam. People sometimes say Deen is the name of Islam which is absolutely correct. But Deen is necessary to understand on a general level that we should keep this definition in mind. This is recognition of the universal system, understanding, understanding, understanding and living a life in harmony with. The most important thing in the universe is a system. All these things are going according to a system. If a person also goes according to the same system, then it is called Deen. Because the system that is given to run is called Islam. That is why we say that Deen is the meaning of Islam. Sharia or Sharia in Urdu. What is Sharia?  So Deen is a very open concept. Sharia becomes a little less open concept than that. This is also a general framework. So Deen is such a thought, or Deen is the name of the universe according to it. Sharia specifies that there is another general framework in this whole general framework. We will call it Sharia and we will come to it after a few minutes. So the third one is Sharia. Sharia is to understand Deen and Sharia. And according to Sharia and Deen, it is called Sharia according to its own behavior. It is called Sharia or Sharia in Urdu. It is called Sharia according to its own behavior. It is called Sharia according to its own behavior. It is called Sharia according to its own behavior. Now these three concepts are very important for Islamic banking and finance. First, its reference, its importance and its reference are general. Sharia is a little more specific. That is why sometimes we call Islamic banking and finance Sharia-compliant banking and finance. Then it is called Sharia-compliant banking and finance. Now what is the difference between them? As I said earlier, Deen is very generic in its form. Sharia is a specific form of it. And Fiqh is a framework and the rule book drawn from Sharia. So understanding these three concepts and their differences will help us to understand Islamic banking and finance.