eing I'm seeing a lot of pushback for the idea that M&M's could be considered better than Skittles. What's the weird on that?  Yeah so of course they are. Not even close. No contest. I definitely prefer M&M's but I guess tragic lack of taste. It depends on what kind of flavor you're going for I suppose. One thing I would say is that something I've noticed is flavor when I when I was sort of that initial burst of flavor but then it kind of deteriorates pretty quickly and then you're sort of left with like you know whereas M&M's are just like they're great the whole way. It's always a safe bet. You know from beginning to end. Yeah it's always a safe bet. The Skittles are just like oh that's like one of the pranks right one of the famous mean pranks is like putting random Skittles into the M&M's. I mean also there's a great deal of variety in the types of M&M's you can get as well. Yes. You know peanut M&M's are really good because peanut butter M&M's are classic. Yeah. Yeah. Wait butter M&M's? What peanut butter. I thought you said butter M&M's and I'm like well I don't know. I guess so. I think that's a good thing over in America. Nectar of the Gods right. Something I was going to say though that's worth noting on the Shazam thing is look all right it's Chekhov's Skittles. They set up at the beginning of the film when what's the name Darla was like oh yes Skittles you know but I'm going to give the yellow ones or whatever it's a Helen Mirren. Because you don't deserve strawberry. Even earlier it's even earlier one. There's an even earlier one. That's right. So it's really it's I think it's all the way in the beginning right after the museum scene was just kind of doing their house stuff like housework chores or whatever. It's like oh there who put Skittles in your pocket and then the girls like that was me. It was supposed to be a surprise. Yeah. So right there. So good. So clever. So you can't complain it was set up and yeah it was true. Anything set up is it's in the clear as long as you set it up it's good you're good you're golden. That's the only rule of writing but if you want the true nectar of the gods you must you know it's not going to be Skittles because Skittles cannot do an equivalent of the Tim Tam slam where you bite off one end of the Tim Tam and the other end of the Tim Tam and you put it in a hot drink like a hot cup of cocoa or something and you drink the cocoa through the Tim Tam making it more chocolatey as it goes up. It is an Australian tradition and then it melts through the Tim Tam. Yeah through the Tim Tam. They were like squares.  You guys sort of understand what you mean. Yeah it's hard for me to visualize in terms of this video on YouTube. M&Ms are the front runner by a considerable margin 61%. It should be bigger. It should be bigger. There should be like 80% percent of Skittles. Because I don't mind Skittles like I can have them but if you say to M&Ms or Skittles I'm going with M&Ms like basically 100% of the time. I was gonna say I can't imagine I would even if I had M&Ms once per day I don't know how well I wouldn't want that. I'm trying to think of like when would I finally be like fine Skittles. Here's an interesting question. There were no other options. We don't even know maybe not. Even then maybe not. You know the mystery box thing. Skittles guaranteed or whatever's in the box and it could be any type of like handy both good and terrible. What do you do? I'm going with the box. You go for the box? Yeah. I'm going for the mystery box dopamine rush. Yeah you do get some fun with the mystery box. Well Rags what about you? Are you gonna bet it all on what's in the box? Bet it all. Or what's the box? So the idea is Skittles for sure or whatever's in the box. I'm going to go with whatever's in the box. Right. I wonder what chat would maybe that's another poll. Skittles versus mystery box. So the idea with the question is to take a gamble on whether or not it'll be better or worse than Skittles. I think it's kind of a gauge of like whether you consider Skittles to be mid or like worse than that because it's almost baked into good. It's almost baked into the good or bad. But there's like a 50% chance that you'll get. If we assume that Skittles is absolutely mid. I think it just says to more so the preference because if you told me M&M's or what's in the box it's like I'll probably go with M&M's. Like that's you know like that's a nice safe one or like Kit Kat versus you know the mystery box. That picture of the guy drinking it through a Tim Tam looks very awkward. Yeah. They need to be longer for that purpose I think. Yeah. Or you need to specialize. Skittles won that one by the way. Oh not Skittles M&M's by a considerable margin. So it's safe to say that if Shazam was a better written film it would have been M&M's at one. Yes.  Mr. Peanut could show up and just start smacking people with his cane and I'd be like yeah follow us. Peanuts are really good. His favorite like mascot for a like a sweet like candy. Oh, I'm not pieces pieces. I don't think I've had a favorite one. I just wanted the candy. I'd have to think of any like as long as we agree. As long as we agree that Lemonhead is the worst. You guys know not everyone likes chocolate right. Yeah. That's okay.  That's totally fine. What you sure. Yeah. You know they're allergic to joy we get it. The M&M's are fine. I don't really know that many like candy specific mascots. There's the Kool-Aid man I guess. The Toucan for Froot Loops. Toucan Sam but that's not candy is it? The cereal I guess could be stretched. Some cereal is candy. Don't eat cereal but there's yeah some of them but if we're going with like typically candy then because I think like berries are candy essentially but I wouldn't. Nature's candy yeah. Nature's candy. Nature's ambrosia. Literally grown good. Nature's ambrosia absolutely. I thought many many nights have been spent with me kneeling naked in front of the open refrigerator just shoveling strawberries into my mouth. It's just you know it's what you do. Unironically I feel like I'll go with candy right now. Dude I'm just happy to be here and beat no Skittles. Oh no sorry Skittles stands. Oh no Skittles fans on suicide watches. I guess I'll go with the M&M's because they have different personalities. Yeah that's right you got the red guy and then the yellow guy. Yeah but they took the sexy dress away so I don't want them anymore. Yeah well she can yeah well we don't have to talk about her. She had her kids. This just reminds me of a video I saw on Twitter of some guy in the middle of the street you know walking up to the camera and ranting about feminist M&M's it was the funniest thing I'd ever seen in my life.  I don't agree with that guy. Why do they just call it an opportunity to call it feminism? Oh you're right. It's right there man. I watched the Rings of Power videos that random film talk did they're really good and he calls one of the the white robed witch ladies people he calls the leader of them feminine. Oh I get yeah okay that took a second yeah very good. I'm superfluous I'm not going to ask Linkara about the green M&M I value my sanity. So anyway this movie let's go back to it yeah so you have that whole skills thing. We have to. And then an army of unicorns appear and Mary says we're going to need a lot more Skittles. Let's just like stop it please stop it.  The company is made Skittles. No that doesn't work Rex because they're just evil the unicorns can be saved. Oh okay. Yeah like maybe it'd be worth giving them to the Cyclops and then he's like there the M&M's they're too good.  We do not blend. So yeah they're riding all the unicorns in and we see this moment where they're just slamming through all of the creatures like stabbing them and with the horns and they're just winning. And they're terrified.  That meme. Yeah.  It's not cringe. No. Not at all. I was silent because I was laughing so hard. You said that product placement line wasn't enough. I would then not like embarrassed about that product placement. They got paid. Have you seen the rest of the script? Yeah. I don't think they are. I think that's fine. That was a good money for it. So way back when, way back when I mentioned that uh he was dead Helen Mirren it turns out she's not. Yeah. Giant hole in her chest.  She gets shot in the chest cavity with the lightning it's really funny.  She can clearly do more things and cast spells but she's like nah I've been stabbed. I've given up yeah. Guess I'll die. You seem pretty passionate about this whole thing this whole time but no mind. By the way it's somewhere doing the movie I thought the dome just disappeared because you can't really see it in the background at all. Okay. That's mean imagination. Are you using your imagination? What would have happened if the dome closed on someone you know like someone was standing where the dome formed would they have just been chopped in half? Yes. Probably. Shazam says I think I know how to destroy the tree the dragon and you know loose glue and everything all at once and he says if I have overload the staff with enough lightning she says a bomb you would annihilate everything in the dome and he goes then I have one more favor to ask and I just I just says how did we jump so far so quick okay fine we can make a bomb now but that's what we're doing. Makes sense. A little bombster. So then Freddie and Anne just wondering about they happen to bump right into the fucking dragon and loose glue says then kill the traitor and so it does its weird fear blast instead of just setting him on fire yeah that probably would have done it but you know the whole time I was watching all I was like thinking was why are you not it's a dragon dragons breathe fire that's like the thing that they're known for doing why is this dragon just screaming at them because fear and then and then and then Anne says what is a goddess without her power and then and then Freddie says the most powerful thing about you is you that's what she said to him that's the wisdom of Solomon heart they filmed that scene everybody behind the camera was nodding and smiling like yes they were weeping they were getting their tissues are they like this they were oh they were weeping I was weeping there was this one cameraman goes like cringe listen closely you can hear him in there and we get one of the again I want to make a compilation of her deliveries in this film they're like they're having their moment and then it pans over to good old Lucy Lou and she says kill them why do you have to keep talking you don't need to you can just have a dragon do stuff anyway it's about to bite them because it really doesn't want to use his fire and Shazam pulls on its tail right before it does he got there just in time if he was two seconds later that would have been the end of Freddie and what's the name and yeah what a dragon bites tail and then let it go again he says Freddie Andrea don't and it makes Lucy Lou look at them and then he super speed grabs his staff and he's like haha I got it like you didn't even need to destroy you have super speed she can't do anything against you pretending like you can't trick someone with super speed unless they're not looking like what do you mean now that he has the staff Freddie Shazam now you got powers well I'm gonna find everybody else say Shazam well why would you do that now when they're dealing with like all the mythological creatures that's not gonna be useful for them yeah man it would be useful wow yeah that's right you know what more I think you're right that would be really useful it's shame that he didn't think of that well see he's just like me a little you know weak human being who just doesn't think about these things on the spot yeah I didn't and I love that I can relate to how he didn't yeah yeah it's a human movie and that's what I'm talking about superheroes aren't aspirational figures human movies like us they're just fucking areas human movies I like the human movies but you know what more like you know what he's literally on his tail now on the dragon's tail we've moved on a little bit from there but he was on his tail literally yeah yeah it occurred um what happens in some shit he baits her into following him to the tree and then Helen Mirren shrinks the dome down to basically just the stadium and so it traps Lucy Lew in there and him and then I was like wait if the dome cannot be trans like gone in and out of by the gods even and how did you meet them in that place in Philadelphia for the food remember how'd they get there both sides you can't get through it so she turned it off yeah just really quickly could she make a small hole in the dome and then close it back up again maybe that's like the only fucking thing that could possibly fix this bad shit movie he says remove the dome no sorry Lucy Lew says remove the dome and then Helen Mirren is like as long as I breathe the dome stands till I see you on the other side sister I think they're in a different movie I mean it's all bad but god the overacting like they just gotta just hold to go nuts with it I guess do you think maybe they're trying to evoke like um cape land shit in Ragnarok maybe everyone was like oh she was campy and fun I'm gonna be campy and fun I don't know how to explain but I was afraid of her but yeah she was way better in Ragnarok than they are yeah I was like oh much better I was really scared of her and I don't want her to piss on me she's incredible yeah takes a special kind of actress to pull off the maniacal like Palpatine sort of um performance so um and not be great yeah she's like Yizma from the impersonate groove yeah we then have this shot in the background well in the foreground is Shazam looking around in the background you see Lucy Lu just shooting fire at Helen Mirren and not doing anything because of the dome that's just happening and Shazam just slowly lands and walks over to talk to his family while it's going on I just think it's so funny like Lucy Lu's just there for the next 10 minutes like blah blah blah and uh why isn't it working we can have our conversation so Freddie runs up to the wall and so you know they're on either side of the dome like get out of there and he's like I can't and he's like Billy what are you doing you're not supposed to be in there and he's crying and it's like wait only Shazam knows what's about to happen nobody else does yeah he hasn't even told him about the bomb or anything so I don't know why the funny thing about this is if there's a little makeshift door which there's plenty of doors in a stadium to the cloak room or whatever you can just go back to the rock utility Lucy Lu's just trapped it there yeah I guess until Helen Mirren dies basically the problem here is that Freddie should be like oh sweet get out of there when you can but instead he's treating it as though Shazam's about to die and that's not information he has yet that's awkward but hey whatever maybe the characters are watching the film too and he says I am supposed to be in here I used to think I couldn't do anything right and then I didn't save my powers but it's something that I can do I can save all of you and then Freddie says it's all or none all or none and he says yeah all my family gets to live and none of you gets hurt that sounds like more clever than I believe you could be so bad what do you mean did you say the same thing twice if you all live and none of you get hurt it's like yeah it's kind of baked into each respect of the statement you know Mahler you've said this a couple times already but that's the sort of line where if they said it in the writers room you'd laugh and then go okay now see what we're going to come up with did you think that was a good line I said that was more clever than I think he could have come up with you think that's even more clever than what he could have said like at all like smart or really I don't think he's not quick okay so when he says that it seems out of place I don't think it's good but that seems out of place for him you know to be able to say that so I think that they think it's a heavy and like heartfelt thing while I'm sitting there thinking like did he actually have it in his head the all or none and he was like all of you live and none get hit there you go like that's why Cross is suitably clownable to me but like it's not supposed to be better well I mean it's not this supposed to be a moment where they recognizing this is the final thing he says to his brother this what I mean about the tone like flow because he then says like Freddie I've never had a family you know that everybody I cared about left me my mom my dad everyone when I found you guys hang on and I held on too tight I should let you guys do your own thing now it's time for you to fly we didn't do any of that really we had like one seed you had like five minutes across two movies of them being together so like I don't know most of the time that they are communicating it's them like sneaking up and down the stairs or something there's no like really there's no character building being done it's them trying to leave the house sneaking into the house creeping up the stairs it's not it's not character stuff no so then he's done he's moving on he's going back to Lucy Lou and on cue perfectly he sees her and she says we end this now then he goes yeah we do you know sometimes you know when you write the words down it's not like you're writing it on parchment like you can you can hit backface you don't have to commit to that yeah you can change your mind right it's not it's not set in stone I wish I was there when they filled it you'd be like David come on yes we do that's all you got then he can be like well what do you think you should say well like first of all why the hell are you having her say we end this now like fuck this movie is amusing in a the wrong way the thing is it's just non-stop terrible there's not really a scene where we go oh that was like a good scene batwoman had one good scene yeah you don't even reach batwoman levels of quality well I mean legitimately like I don't know like I'm not sure where we end up with this one wasn't it high top who put something out and someone said you know it's okay to redraft so that he was like how fucking dare you imply that I took redraft I can't believe you would ever say that to another creator oh that's it yeah like if the writer sang it to a fellow writer or something oh god oh my god my gobbly goodness so we think this can be quick he just shoots out a bunch of lightning it bounces around the whole dome it goes into the staff and then he flies directly at the dragon and she says shazam which I think is a very unwise thing to do since that'll turn you into a human that's what I thought as well I guess he wants that extra lightning strike to come down I don't know in any case it kills everything goodbye dragon loosey-loo tree and I like that we managed to get this far by the way without talking about the thing that's about to happen that is the big thing this is the big topic yeah this needs to be where it is easily the thing that pissed me off the most well this is the thing that people in chat won't even be ready for and I talked about it with the as in chat on the thing it's like a spoiler talk thing but yes I'm not lying he kills everything even him he's dead he kills himself to save the world obviously the horde of what a hero mythological monsters they all just disappear as well they like go ash mode yeah they turn to leaves there's a lot of that in these movies where the thing just tends to ash you know what I'm gonna give it a little bit more credit just a little teeny tiny bit they turn into leaves and they came from a tree so that's something that is a thing that is I guess they came from a tree but they also came from like sacks of biologically like renders no mercy I'm tired of like the don't miss they all just get yeeted why would we have to deal with like the consequences of this massive epic battle when we can just delete they have to wrink all those leaves control the tree I've never had a lawn they've hit ctrl a and then delete it's just like oh yeah now we don't have to deal with any of those problems they copied and pasted a lot of leaves in place of the ctrl a ctrl x I'm tired of it nobody wants to deal not corpses not corpses just like anybody who's left over what if any of the Chitauri wanted to surrender or something every last ultron bot we got him and then of course snapping and deleting that one I guess is more acceptable because yeah you would do that I'm just tired of like all of the enemies just like oh we're dead I thought you were talking about the fact the way it affects cleanup because having a hive mind thing die and everything dies that definitely is valid I think the Chitauri one was a bit of a stretch but it was like they cut off from they like robot flash but the thing I was going to appreciate about Avengers is that they left bodies everywhere there was destruction everywhere and we even got an incoming built a story off the idea of cleanup crews and stuff it's like hey not bad whereas now they don't even want to do that it's like no just get rid of it all so that there's no cleanup no problems just like it might as well never happened that's why I find it so frustrating minimize the effect on the world it's really really annoying a world that they're not continuing whatever whatever it's just more a principled outrage than anything the ones that helped them they got turned they're dead they died and turned to leaves too nobody cries for the unicorns that saved the world that is kind of weird how they just I they just de-spawned the unicorn they just turned to leaves maybe the unicorns are right to hate humans they get used and then thrown away Helen Marin died as well and the last thing she says is like ah you were a true god or something you were a hero you had one good-ish idea ah what a god there's an idea there's an idea in the there's an idea in like if you dig deep deep down under all of the grime and the CGI and the fucking leaves there's an idea underneath there that Helen Marin's character really despises humans and doesn't like them and thinks they're not worthwhile and then eventually Shazam is the one who's like no humans are cool see I'm a hero and I can do heroic things and I'm great and I'll work with you to stop this big or evil it's not a complex idea but there's an idea there and they even they don't do it well because they can't do anything well no so yeah everyone's like crying and sad cause boy dead wait wait wait wait wait wait someone sent me this image and I need you to see it what have you inflicted upon us what is sent me this what have you sent me those floopy legs what have you what have you what have you what have you what have you what have you got a little ferret there and rags the dog or horses and yeah a little kiwi and yeah look at that little fella look at him running with those floopy legs he's trying his best and I appreciate it this is great this particular rendering of Friggy is hilarious I love it the little smile there that's what I like what was the inspiration this representation of Friggy I need to know I'm not sure what would be the inspiration for that but I like it they do they do they're kind of like Shrek ears ugh the witch doctor's clothes you see it's not the lore on that the lore on that is I don't know yet be announced what the hell so anyway that's good this is a line I couldn't make out this is the best approximation I have of it I think it's what she said if anyone has any better memory of it go ahead but oh wait no actually wait there's something before this which is um he's dead they're all sad then you have I remember who says it but someone says he was a hero someone says he was a hero and a god and the wizard says yeah that's probably actually and the wizard said he should be laid to rest like one yeah now probably the only character if I were there that would say fuck you he's a human he's not a god well well hold on he said he should be laid to rest like one which in and of itself is a nice like that is a gesture if he should be laid to rest like a hero no like a god that isn't in and of it like a god the DC world lay Aries to rest like the god that he is that's what I'm saying like it's not it's just take credit he's a human he was a human what he did was human he deserves to have customs yeah humans are heroes that's what I'm saying like the idea that because he did something so great that he gets to have a gods later it's like no fuck you humans like enough of this crazy shit where it's like ah after all the gods just did you kidding me these are all fucking gods look what they just did yeah I look at what Wonder Woman did in 1994 I don't need you stupid god customs just bury him like a man yep because he's a human being and a really good one which would actually just bury him anyway like a like normally it would actually change the plot light if he was to be buried like a human well because the thing that's worth emphasizing for everybody is this is a very emotional scene as it should be sacrifices life to save the world and his family and it's very sad it's the payoff that it is exactly what it is trying to be which is this character has made a sacrifice and isn't it sad that he's gone someone just said was there anything left to bury it's like actually yes inexplicably yes it's just he was it's his human body with a bit of stuff on his face feel like a weird big stuff on his face all things considered not looking too bad yeah I mean you died still if you were in pieces like loads of flashy intestines like oh jeez we have to pick all these up or it's just like his bottom half or just like legs and it looked a comical spine sticking out with like an among us bone that's comedy then the part where I was a little bit confused they're at his funeral fucking god realm burying him which like I said just like fuck that burying him in his he's an American burying me in Philly Philly and so Darla's looking at the grave and I think she says like I said I think she says will his light ever come back I'm not sure if it's that I need to keep listening because I was like what the fuck question is that and then the wizard says the staff is drained of magic only the spark of a god can restore its power and there are no gods left the implication being we could get his light back but you know the staff's out of battery so and it's kind of like you think to yourself wait why is the staff out of battery yeah is it exploded it functions it's just low on charge it's still intact it's still intact you know like it didn't get destroyed by this and you restored it before did they ever have to do that but basically my my my my conniptions are that it should why did this was never a thing it never ran out of battery before that was was that ever a fun it can break in half but it's still enough to give people powers back even when it's broken in half no it's out of power okay yeah and they've said it all up they said only a god can restore it and there's none left that's true there are none left that have powers and then you hear the wonderful voice of Gal Gadot say there is one there is one you see her legs on the fucking soundtrack actually like cooms all over the screen yeah no yodeling though so loud I legit was like calm down I have brought myself a goud not even an action scene oh she's so terrible and the thing is the first thing you think is wait where were you how did you get here and how did you get here how did you get here how did you know to come here there's so many questions and they will answer none of them she's just here to pose doing the pose there it's like she knows that she's being filmed the only thing they explain is that she got the god letter that they apparently wrote her that's all they give us by the way I just really need to emphasize for chat what the fuck what the experience was like so just ignore the shitty fucking cock ass dialogue for a second and ignore the fact that they're burying him in a very inappropriate place totally it's somber somber somber somber music somber this is very like Billy Batson's dead like we are mourning him we are mourning him and this goes on for quite a bit they really drag it out they really milk this scene yeah and then out of nowhere all of a sudden we hard cut to just it just assaults you they don't do a recomposition they don't do like a transition they don't slow down the Wonder Woman thing it's not like why wouldn't it be a soft like piano vision yeah it's epic it's epic look it's Wonder Woman you liked Wonder Woman right after Wonder Woman 934 yeah she's great yeah it's like they ripped it straight from the BVS soundtrack it's definitely a different composition but like you can tell it's different but it's different almost in the worst way it is loud the actual one from Batman V Superman starts off pretty chill it's not like super duper loud it's like the arrangement they had for 1984 where it was really loud it was just a bunch of instruments all at once thrown at you not a lot of clarity exactly I described it to Capital O earlier as it was like I got hit in the face with a shovel with the soundtrack it was just a shovel right in the face she has this she has this face of like yeah I'm here so things are good now I bet you're all incredibly happy I'm here aren't I fucking cool there's only one exit everyone's like woah yeah the wizard he's just like mmm and I really like it don't check on his face in that scene he just looks unimpressed we're having a moment here fucking idiot because he probably saw Wonder Woman 84 I know what you fucking did yeah and so she reignites the staff because she just hits it into the ground that's all it takes cause she's a god I guess it starts to regrow well just plants and stuff making the place much more peaceful and happy then boom Sam's hand and arm and Eugene's like oh my god it's Jeb be that he goes no it's just me I'm back yeah so we need to talk about this you don't get to kill your character and then bring them back two minutes later you don't get to do that you don't get to extract all of the emotions that you get from people with a heroic sacrifice only to not commit to what the heroic sacrifice entails which is never having that character again you don't get to do that it's bullshit I hate it you don't have to do that it's just such a missed opportunity like you know this is gonna be I mean I guess they filmed this like 5 million years ago so I don't know if they already knew they won't be getting another one anyway or another one by or another but if you would have written it not that stupidly where he just comes back after two minutes as he just said you could have had Sam have like this heroic ending you feel like giving the film a little bit of props you're like wow you killed him yeah you get those cojones storytelling choice but they can't commit and they don't want to commit and you don't get any points you get negative points absolutely negative points you retroactively lose yourself points by undoing something yeah it's like one step forward then three steps back pretty much I got pretty excited when I thought oh my god they might actually kill him I was like it won me over so much because it's not a good movie at all up until that point but I was like holy shit they actually killed him wow and then I actually got kind of excited thinking about oh what could they do if they did get an X movie even less chance if it was Sam 3 thank god yeah there's a lot you could do and then of all the ways to of undoing but they could have done something where like if all the ways to bring him back they picked the most cringe like Diana X Machina way possible it's awful I didn't bother to show up for the actual threat but I'm here now yeah no it's true she's an actual god and also by the way this raises a question you can use the staff to fix the garden what's the point of the apple that's a good question I don't actually know what we're supposed to gather exactly I thought something weird was happening cause he died with the tree the tree's energy I literally have no because what you just said we wouldn't write it but it's what they do it was just the staff that yeah what the fuck cause that just saves the realm by hitting the floor are you kidding me like everything in the movie was pointless yeah everything it touches and then also by the way tonally oh zombie what was fucking what was that it's funny you guys like zombies it's the first joke it's the first draft and also inappropriate very inappropriate most of the jokes are inappropriate given the context what's actually happening David said they had intended to show someone like Batman or Superman trying to get into the dome on a news report or something but couldn't that would make it worse that would make it worse cause then the second the dome is down we'd be like where the fuck where they and then they can obviously get in through the rock of eternity doors that anyone could just talk to them about and then where were they up to that point it's like don't just don't David just stop stop that's why you know after going through the whole movie and thinking about all this stuff the fact that he's like yeah I kind of knew it would flap and it's like well why didn't you try to make it good I guess he would have the perspective well I made something that I think was good but the studio more or less sort of sent it out to die to which I would respond yeah they kind of did but like if your film was incredible I don't think they would have I want to mention by the way Amthena gets her powers back too yeah because of this cool no lasting consequences at all for anything yeah exactly I just can't help but compare this cause Rath of Khan and Search for Spock that's an example of a character dies but then comes back but I just think about that and the firstly he doesn't come back two minutes later secondly it's an entire film of sacrifice of consequences of major shit happening before they finally get to a point where they've both mechanically thematically earned this restoration and it's just I just can't help but feel like there might have been an opportunity here even if it would have been nowhere near as good as that but you have him remain dead for this film and if you really fucking need to bring him back you need to have a whole film that is filled with top to bottom sacrifice consequences a journey consequences yeah you know there are examples of stories where a character dies and then comes back and then that's meaningfully dealt with don't say what it is if you know what it is then meaningfully deal with you know like that like somebody having to grapple with the effect that that would have on their sense of self and mortality and life in general but I mean it's just back to crack and jokes it's just back to normal like it's like nothing bad happened except you got all of the juicy juicy emotions that you could extract by having that heroic sacrifice my brain really glazed over after this I don't know how much I really absorbed about it to me it's top of the course of the rest of the movie we have seen countless examples of the shittiest writing tactics to avoid having to deal with problems throughout yep and of course they kill someone and bring them back in to sleep that's like one of the classic you do not do this as a writer cardinal sin type writing stuff pretty mad I think yeah your general standard writing advice would advise not to do that any of these things there are so many really awful tropes that I thought we were all aware it's a really bad did you not learn in all of your fast and furious movies that you don't do this I mean this is maybe the most egregious product well wait did fast and furious bring back a character who died wasn't there that guy in Tokyo I think so yeah how does that happen in that world though I could have sworn even the actor in an interview said like he thought he was dead and they brought him back and he was like okay they used the car to like rev of mattery and I think what happened was that the film it was initially they brought him back in a story that was set before then but then it just kept going and then they brought him back anyway in a story that is definitely after that happened and Han was his name that was the guy and he just came back even though he died I'm gonna explain it that's really funny he respawned I'm not dying of fast and furious they're bringing him back yeah I heard about that too yeah um look and I'm just thinking about the fact that it's Wonder Woman and they're talking about gods and it's just a spark just lit up in my brain where it's like the term deus ex machina you know were you missing I think you missed you missed the conversation I don't mean I think you said like a literal a literal deus ex machina the memes had a bite moment yes you were having a bite moment that's okay though but yes you're like it is a deus ex he's actually a god who comes in at the end to save the day oh my god I know it's not one to one but you know how she does that and she starts like walking off Wonder Woman and there's a conversation I haven't talked about in a sec but she's walking away and it felt to be like such a even though some with facial expressions like the fucking the simpsons thing with like you know my work here is done and I just want body to be like you do anything you didn't do anything the cost you anything you just turned up pressed a thing and then like you left it to the 17 year old kid to save the world while you were off doing I don't know nothing at all and then she's like coming in being like ah see look at how she's doing the kind god meme this cost you nothing asshole yeah it's like the flash and the Snyder cut presses to save the world button yep yeah I'd hope you would hate this shit you could tell she's just like man I'm pretty cool yeah okay whatever yeah you know Wonder Woman really does not strike me as somebody who should be played as arrogant um if anything she is incredibly graceful and humble but you know I will say like I find it fascinating when people say oh yeah Gal Gadot and body's Wonder Woman she really doesn't she really really really doesn't I don't know why people say that she doesn't really look like Wonder Woman though Wonder Woman's more muscular than she is yeah that's the it's a superficial resemblance at most um but there are better choices to be sure um and like that little smirk in BVS where it's like oh yeah you know the world's ending but I'm loving it that was actually an improvisation by Gal Gadot so that kind of shows that she doesn't really get it um as far as concerned and of course Zach doesn't get it because he left it in um yeah that's why we need new Wonder Woman stories to like sort of reset what people's expectations and understanding of that character is because you start to see it seep into like the perception of that character it's really lame it is really lame um it's damage to DC yep oh he's so colossal um I'm just reminding of the second episode of the old Justice League cartoon where there was the question of oh where's Superman where's Batman where are these members that we don't want to deal with this episode and it's just like oh Superman's dealing with an earthquake Batman is busy doing something else and so they actually account for it and then the funniest part of that is Superman does actually show up and saying oh it was just a minor aftershock we didn't uh it was a false alarm but the thing is that cartoon it dealt with the whole Justice League problem better than the fucking live action thing that's meant to be more mature I don't get it I don't get how you don't at least have a throw away in there to try to fuck it all fuck it all they do the uh they do the really cringe joke again um joke about the age difference as well oh yeah and so the difference this time is the first time around the parents both said like no weird but the kids were like hmm this time the mom says it's weird and the kids and the dad of all like hey because the joke being of course well even the dad is like well come on it's Gal Gadot she's so hot I was like wow you would not get away with this if they were flipped I'm just saying you know I why would you why would you make that kind of joke I don't get it they think it's funny I thought that everybody agreed with the whole what's Edward or whatever in Twilight like I thought everybody agreed that that was weird yeah it's difficult to do in a way that doesn't come across a very way especially with like the relationship started the first one with manipulation this one yeah I mean doesn't even know her I don't know anything about her I don't know yeah it's all just like what are we doing what's happening help me out here I don't know I don't know what we're doing anymore so uh before she leaves she says it was an amazing thing you did the sacrifice you made and you brought this world back to life perhaps God and man can live in peace he's the only god left if they ever remade the room I feel like they should cast Cal Gadot they needed to I'm fed up with this world she'd be perfect we can feed up this world together oh my god I need to get into every deep fake program right now and make this happen get deep in there yeah yeah I don't know this this this this shit I just wanted to end so here we go uh he says hey who wants their powers back and then he looks at the wizard and he goes we can do that right and the wizard says yeah and so they give the kids all the power it's like well done you broke the only thing protecting you as a narrative being that the kids ended up with the power through recklessness you know and now you're just doing it because fuck it yeah because you guys did such a great job this time around I don't understand it you know like all of those people who got killed by the cyclopsis and everything like that no no no we didn't talk about them that was avoidable it was avoidable by the wizard telling him to not break the staff at any cost and moreover there's really I'm pretty sure only Billy has any level of like damn that's kind of on us nobody else seems to really care I want to sit the wizard down and be like so these lads here these are all by the way you didn't choose the rest of them you chose Billy because he was pure of heart right even though you said it was the wiseness of his heart whatever the fuck but anyway these kids you didn't choose them but you're giving it all to him now it's like yeah it's like how about how about we take it off Dala because she's like nine and we give it to let's say Jackie Chan or about that and then if he says well Jackie Chan's not pure of heart I'd be like oh oh isn't he he's pure of chest okay well you know um who you maybe give it to the wizard to judge who's pure of heart not superman I was gonna say give it to the superman but you can't not in this world you can't trust him with that kind of power you'll kill everything maybe you give it to hell Jordan if he's out there somewhere yeah well what about kill the reaps could we give it to him he's like nope not pure of heart oh pure of heart really you know best Mr. Wizard you give it to the fucking child over I'm sure if Keanu Reeves saw two bullies like punching and beating up a crippled person he wouldn't ever intervene with that he just I think he'd go up to him and say hey stop it and then they would oh shit it's John Wick and then he'd sit down and like work out their problems why do you feel the need to bully other people why are you doing this the school counselor John Wick yeah I just I hate it but run along they ask Amthina what are her plans now and she's like well I guess you're only gonna take care of the realm and she says no I'm gonna let that realm heal for now I'm gonna take some time off with the common folk and see what there is to learn and then she holds Freddy's hand it's like oh no no it's no no no no she is 6,000 years old you can do better there are younger women out there too it sounds like a fun fun sentence to say like it sounds like a meme but no she is actually 6,000 years old she's older than the pyramids the same mistake the same mistake they don't actually shouldn't act like she's 6,000 years old Jack's like kind of like a stilted 20 year old she's 1,500 years old older than the pyramids comes back to take the staff and basically just says I'm going on holiday I'm tired of prison I'm getting out of this movie as quickly as I can pretty much yeah oh my god guys she's literally older than human civilization yeah it says that the earliest civilizations developed between 4,000 3,000 are you sure about that that's what National Geographic Society says how old is how old is summa let's see it's summa and it came out in 2016 it was roughly 6,000 years ago yeah that would be probably what they're referring to that was one of the earliest civilizations it's not just people cohabitating it's like civilization proper how old is Jericho I'll hold the book probably not that old are you talking about Clive Barker's Jericho by Clive Barker no and I'm not talking about the TV show Jericho either I'm talking about the City of Jericho how old is Jericho first walled city in history the oldest city in the world I assume we're not counting stuff like first our agricultural revolution or the military that's not what Rags is counting the point being is that she is old basically as old as human civilization when the first humans finally got together to create civilization and agriculture and like a hierarchy of leadership and started to build buildings and settle down and create civilization she was born then as well and she was probably an adult by then as well so she watched all of humanity throughout the years progress and grow and this is the one yep this is the one it wasn't even you know like the great men of history it wasn't like a Caesar Augustus or an Abraham Lincoln or a carrot top it was this guy it was Zach or Zaki or Jake or whatever his name is this is the one Freddy you racist Freddy his name is Freddy this is the one Freddy finally someone worthy of my I'm no divinity or whatever so literal last note says what's my superhero name and the wizard goes your name is and then he goes of course and then Freddy goes I still think we can beat it and then the credits happen yay that's when I left we do I wasn't gonna make this but they are in the consequential the first one is the peacemakers hard caught in the fat guy genuinely it looks like just trying to bait or promote they'll be kind of using the just deciding peacemaker season 2 I imagine that's all that is I don't know do you think that they have the money to do that I don't know what James Gunn's plans are but what else is that scene supposed to be is it just memes do you think it wasn't actually leading to anything it probably was leading to something originally he's not happy anymore is it not if I can right the after credits we'll go through the other one quick because this one's a dead end in the first film Mark Strong's in prison and he gets visited by a caterpillar with a robotic device on him saying basically that they have plans they're going to do things and it's gonna be amazing and it ends with them being like hey hey hey this one Mark Strong's got a big beard and the caterpillar tins up and he's like where have you been it's been two years and the caterpillar's like it takes ages for me to get around okay but you know the plans they're real coming together and then Mark Strong says tell me everything and he says I will I just got to do one thing and then leaves and then Mark Strong's like what the hell and then it ends and that was gonna be Shazam 3 but not anymore no Mr. Mind yeah but instead you got these characters who aren't in like the comics as far as I'm aware no I looked it up that seems odd but especially considering how lame they were and the idea of a supervillain caterpillar sounds like way more interesting to me inherently yeah but that's the end oh and they had a little Avenger's joke as well where he said Avenger's Society I kind of like that alright we're done Shazam Fury of the Gods terrible terrible terrible terrible really bad one of the worst I would say I think this one is actually one of the worst crazy for the DC universe you're really competing for like that bottoms yeah and you know you find out it's like ooh it's not it's suffering at the box office you're like okay good this used to be an example to the rest what Mr. Mind man this is what happens hanging from the gallows and the courtyard well Abba was really helpful too so yeah I don't know it's yeah it took us what like five hours for you but it's to break this one down it's still very long I know it's not as long as the recent Marvel things but still it's very long same it's riddled yeah some of the most noticeably shitty writing tactics like I said this thing was rushed just makes you wonder like what how was it rushed when it's four years after the first film how does that happen this is what I mean like sometimes I wonder about writers where it's like did the same writer did the first one do this one I don't think so one of the two writers worked on the first one the other one oh yeah yeah that's right stuff like that makes me wonder if you're a part of let's say you know I wrote Shazam one and then I talked to Samberg and he's like yeah not looking like we're gonna be able to make this for another three years or something so I'd be like well I'm probably gonna tool away at a sequel script you know a little bit here and there maybe build it up redraft it over time small amounts of effort and then when they go right you have to write that I'd be like oh gee okay I guess I'll stop from scratch wink wink and then get a lot of stuff that I you know what I mean does any of them ever do that you should at least stop point it you know what does take pride in your work mean when's Mario out that's out on the fifth of May I believe so it's real close oh boy the more that I'm interested in that we'll see perhaps I mean there's no way compared to all these films there's no way there's no way that it could be as bad as these movies no way indeed no way you know my gripes are probably gonna be on the voice acting side but I don't imagine the film itself is going to be we even know we've seen a few more clips of Chris Pratt actually trying to do the Mario voice yeah everyone's I think the sense of it is turning hardcore right before this thing comes out and if it turns out to be good that's gonna be a crazy little journey it's had that'll be real interesting if it turns out to be good cause even where I'm at now I don't really expect it to be good I expect it to be fine I think that's where I'm at I expect it to be a totally fine animated film but like I ain't gonna be up there with like the best of the best which maybe that's not a terrible thing um well I mean it's not right it could be worse probably but we'll see is there anything like I'm so ready to eject this out of my head I'm ready to eject the film but maybe there's something to talk about in terms of the meta of like cause I mean it's in the title right the state of DC oh we talked about it a couple times in the stream but this is doing bad what does it mean going forward just means they already knew this was a titanic equivalent of a film they're moving on already uh yeah it's already probably just oh that's they've already got Tom Cruise talking about how the flash is gonna be really great yeah the flash I think they hope can at least bring back some money this one I think they abandoned when does the flash come out the flash is out in June that really is the most interesting DC film like for now until the reset cause it's just like oh I guess we're gonna get a glimpse into what their plans were before they changed everything and like what even this film is going to be and whether it's gonna be quality and like whether it's gonna make money um because all I think you can gauge from like the um box office of this film and it's the general response to it is like man DC is like not it just ain't worth much like in the eyes of the public it's not really a draw and I feel like this says a lot about how little anybody actually cared about Shazam all the people were saying it was good but nobody has anything to say about it the first film and nobody really cared about this one either people said yeah it's good it's fun but you couldn't say anything you couldn't tell anybody anything about it and this film was even more so got that problem than that one in a week nobody will be talking about it it'll be done it'll be over gotta get this episode out on Moola quickly before people like wait you come oh wait yeah I don't care about Shazam anymore John Wick's coming out and Resident Evil 4 and Mario yay this film is like those Doctor Who aliens who you know you look at them and then you turn away and you forget that they exist yeah it's the silence this is the silence of films it's really bad yeah it suffers from it's like you said Moola it's pretty much all of the pretty standard problems that something can suffer from it has them in multiple different ways as well it's kind of fascinating what I think you said it a few times Rags as well like what does the script even look like like what is it what is the process that results in this kind of script I legitimately don't know you would think that somebody would give a shit like somebody would check in if you were dropping like a hundred million dollars or whatever on a movie you think that you'd be watching over it like a hawk you'd be you'd have your eyes on the script and all the production elements and everything like that I mean especially the script you think you'd have guys there every day in the writer's room making sure that it all you know work together but they just didn't give a fuck it's like they just said oh crap we need you got to write the script in an afternoon and we'll get some people to write the Shazam movie yeah okay cool we got a script writing doesn't sell superheroes and CGI sells I mean it doesn't sell here's the lesson that's being learned right now by hollywooders oh shit like this isn't just a sure thing making superhero films it's gonna reach the point where you know when we're talking about like the films that are coming out this year wouldn't surprise me if the Mario movie makes a billion dollars and that'll be like the most successful film of the year up to this point bidding out like big Marvel films and I guess a relatively bigger DC film yeah wouldn't surprise me either and following as well the likes of Black Panther not crossing a billion dollars the continually deteriorating viewership of like Star Wars right now where what Mando season 3 had a premiere numbers like lower than Booker Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi like damn man what's going on guys it's not very worthwhile so yeah this is Gotham Knights oh yeah that's right Gotham Knights it does feel like they're just they're just trying to get out like everything they had like pre-gun, pre-buy out sort of thing just kind of trying to get it out as fast as possible just so they can too much money like in these projects you know Aquaman probably cost like 200, 250 million dollars you gotta release it gotta make some money back it's weird so if do you think that the Flash will do the reset in the movie itself nope, nah I don't think so, I think that that kind of being very poy about what the reset actually looks like for this year I don't think it will have anything to do with anything that they've set up before it'll just be like from okay we start here you know like just sort of uh, mentally I guess almost on a map level I think you're probably right because you would think from a writing perspective you'd probably want to use the magical bullshit powers that the Flash has to do the reset in the story itself but then you would undermine Aquaman at the bottom of this you undermine that and I guess Blue Beetle as well but more for me it would be like I don't want any attachments to this universe like not in any way shape get rid of it completely excise it like a tumor just get rid of it what's there to say? are there three good characters in this entire universe that are worth even holding on to? most people don't talk about characters that talk about actors, that's what people talk about cause there's no fun characters that we're trying to save like Margot Robbie and stuff yeah no get rid of her too please get rid of her too please first on the chopping board James Gunn really likes working with Margot Robbie right so that's the thing though I don't think he can pick a choose I think he has to get rid of everything I think it would actually be kind of unfair to a lot of actors to just pick the ones that you want to the individual ones you want to keep while getting rid of others yeah if you can't get if you can't get Cavill to come back when he's like the people the one that people want to come back the most it seems from the beginning yeah yeah I've also heard people saying they're going to keep Ezra Miller I really don't think they would they're not going to keep Ezra Miller exactly the only source on that is literally a source that says trust me bro along with a bunch of unrelated information it is the clickbaity is the clickbaity titles but people are treating it as fact cause no one fucking clicks the articles that they're reacting to anymore no you're just talking the headline oh that's got to be true I think that they're just going to be very vague it's the reason why we haven't heard about any actual Wonder Woman film as part of chapter one which just seems like if you're doing a reset you're doing Batman Wonder Woman like obviously maybe there is a Wonder Woman film but you don't feel like you can talk about it until Flash is out and Sam with Aquaman what are the plans with Aquaman or Flash or whatever it's like well you don't want to talk about that before the film that costs like $300 million comes out well that's the awkward thing right they have to still sell these films before they can get to the new stuff so they have to kind of tow the line before they can finally be completely honest with it for as much as that's the case they still want these new films out by 2025 which is not really far away we're going to be finding out about people getting cast for these roles this year all production timelines this year while all of these films are coming out because to some extent you don't want to wait you want to get these films done you want to get new DC films out there but hopefully they're not in too much of a rush and then screw everything up again yeah well the good thing is I think after the Flash there's only two more that were already that would need all of Aquaman and that's it and then that's over then it's over thank god the first project of DC Studios is Creature Commandos oh is it Creature Commandos that comes out first and then Waller I think and then Superman which by the way nah Superman's first I don't know why you would do it like that sorry this is just turning into rambling about a thing that doesn't even exist yet the point is DC it's like the twilight of DC EU and what a shitty twilight it's turning out to be just a slow painful death like yeah the future of DC is very uncertain at the moment so it's the best shape it's been in years Marvel's been looking for that so you know they've got good company yeah we got some good eating ready boys we're going to really be feasting on all these amazing superhero films at least we got Domia 3 that's right yeah fingers crossed big thing that's on the way that I'm excited for are you for remake getting all the kind of ratings you would want yeah baby all signs going together right now a really great demo and everyone scores are really high so it's like give give give that's exciting um what I was going to say that kind of wraps the stream so what we'll do first is give give cap metal and meme a chance to talk a little bit about what they're up to whatever that may be cap once you go first devs episode 4 it's coming it's almost done look forward to that that's that's all I have for now well you also did a stream in case people didn't hear about it the last time it was we talked with myself and the Pringled about and Elvis correct and it was a swell time go check that out also we did a stream oh my dog's barking like crazy because someone's shooting fireworks off even though it's just a random day I don't know because it's Saturday we also did a stream talking about all quiet on the western front and uh what's the other one with the other two guests on this panel and meme go check that out what a coincidence wowie yeah good times go check those out metal what are you doing hello I am I'm working on a thing a scripted thing yes I'm actually doing a scripted video again and it's uh I'm redrafting right now I'm gonna start recording soon I'm not gonna say what it is yet I thought I might today but I think I need some more redrafts so not yet but there's gonna be a metals forge again next week on John rick 4 on Sunday and that's what I'm up to Resident Evil 4 Strumbles 4 error for the metal channel I linked in description I will sort that out yes don't find that out metals cancelled I think mine has one as well I think it's the at thing because it's not actually linking to yeah those links like to break at some point sometimes it's weird mine is great and amazing meme what are you up to so there's a stream that I've been trying to get out since November that's been like very research heavy and very clip heavy it's a tribute to Kevin Conroy it's 98% done I'm just trying to find I got covid on vacation unfortunately so I've been rebuilding every like I got really sick so I had to rebuild my energy and now I'm rebuilding my voice and routine so I just got to find the energy and the spoons to put in to put the final pieces together and then I'll do a little dress rehearsal for that one to make sure everything gets past and then we'll be good to go on that so there is a countdown timer on my channel ignore that I have to keep pushing that forward because I can't be fucked to delete it and then put it up again so yeah so that will be out when it's out I'll probably change the title to know for realsies when it finally when it finally comes but yeah so that's what I'm working on at the moment so that'll come when it comes very well bring in rags anything you guys want I am probably tomorrow going to be finished with a script for a video so that's exciting after the script is finished of course the video proper will begin to assemble itself I'm not sure how long that will be I'm probably gonna be putting a decent amount of work into this and I think that certainly the efap audiences will really like it and I think that my own well as well on my own channel but I'm just working away things are getting done and I'm yeah look out for more updates potentially I'm just in the dungeon working I'm working on episode 3 Mando working on the video uh yeah so Mando episode 3 is next up coming to you this week probably general efap update as you guys know the last of us is finished all 9 of those have been edited up into a supercut and that'll be premiering next week we're going to try and do that with every tv show we end up finishing but of course same time Mando is running and we have the hopes of Gotham Knights running at the same time and the funniest part of it all is that that one is still actually running as well so technically 3-4 tv shows just about to end and the rest is still continuing and then of course minis being dropped out for super chat catch up and I still want to try and organize us recording a meme of fap when we can and yeah plenty of things on the way so we're still ahead episodes wise so next week there won't be an efap there will instead be that last of us supercut and me and rags and premiering will probably spend the day doing catch up instead you know use the opportunity of being too far ahead to catch up with stuff that's falling behind at the mat and then that means John Wick and RE4 come out and so we'll do John Wick the following week we'll talk all about it but if you wanted to hear us earlier than that it was very well likely that we'll be on the forge with metal on it I don't know who or why exactly who was going to be there who knows I'm just saying that's probably a good place to get opinions for earlier the week after that would be RE4 so that gives two weeks of space for everybody to play the f**k out of that game because that's going to be one we're going to want to talk about the details of extensively very excited which also means you'll be seeing streams from myself, doomably bringing in metal following any technical problems yeah and I know the plenty and like you know like as and drinkers of they're all going to be streaming it so that's going to be a game where everybody streams because Resident Evil 4 is kind of a well known game you know people do not know where to watch first it's going to be probably like five streams at the same time so Mark will be streaming it too I imagine yeah that's where we should be and John maybe he might be so yeah another gaming f**k on the way and once all those things are out and done I mean it's kind of been insane lately I've seen a video two to three days on eFap with the mula channel yeah there has guys in a rush I hope that it's not that you're like ah yes this is normal yeah it's not normal a lot of stuff's been coming out and try to work on mainline stuff as well you know how it is yeah exactly oh we passed a hundred days worth of eFap oh boy my god good golly miss Molly celebrate um but yeah that's that I suppose where's my clown horn thank you all so much for watching I'm proud of you guys for actually being able to maybe remember the film and now it's getting flushed from my brain and now I'm off the go we're freeing up some space I will release it into the ether by Shazam Fury of the Gods goodbye goodbye goodbye to you chatterer thank you so much goodbye to you all we will see you next time beep up I'm a bye bye I'm all over the place