Hello and welcome to the weekly KD news where I show you a bunch of changes that are happening in KD And then I actually show you the code to make you understand a bit how it actually works under the hood So let's get to the first one which is overall the up page of this cover last week some people ask me if Discover was getting a redesign and well slowly it's getting one first these page The ups page and then there's also talks about redesigning the home page and so on this is specifically about the page showing the application So here we have a couple of examples. I think they're a pretty good one This is a new as an example what we get differently is this header on the top with all of the information and then big buttons screenshots and text and it might look like quite a complex change to make and it probably is from scratch, but if you do understand like the basic ideas of command This is actually pretty easy to understand. So I'll show you the code and as far as how it looks It looks pretty good. I think it's an improvement and actually since I forgot to do that Let me thumbs it up. Then we got a sorted UI improvements for the SMS application We can see that as an example We do get now a search bar, but also here There's the search bar as well in here we can select a device to show the SMS messages from and It's mostly about this plus a lot of other things that I won't go through all of them Still improvements for the SMS application if you don't know about what this is It's caddy connect caddy connect actually allows you to see your SMS messages from your desktop Even though your SMS are on the phone. So that's pretty cool next we have the add medium spacing property and I showcase this even though it's not really important and Probably might also not get accepted because well a bit of time ago somebody Well commented on one of my video something like you should use something like CSS Classes to have one margin that applies to all of the elements so that it is consistent and The fact is that of course we do that like it's not like we are setting margin Independently for every single element. That's not happening. What we usually do is not only of course Have some margins for classes, but also even when we set margin Quantities for those classes. We have some variables that represent very some amount of spacing that we can have small spacing medium spacing large spacing in this case the the proposal I guess together with this one which change small spacing and large spacing is to add a Medium spacing in between the small and the large one right now as far as I know there's only the medium and large now small and Large are four and eight pixels Medium spacing if I'm correct should be equivalent to six pixels now, of course that in theory should depend on Like the font size as an example the spacing the actual spacing changes depending on the font size So the change itself is pretty easy We're just adding a new variable whose value is the small spacing multiplied by one and a half So four by default multiplied by one and a half is six So it's exactly in between large and small It's important to notice that large spacing is small spacing multiplied by two So kind of makes sense and then here we have a proposal to actually make small spacing a larger spacing in Corigami, this is all about Corigami Sorry forgot to mention it for space for pixels and a large spacing eight pixels instead of it Depending on the grid unit. So the context of this one this patch is that the grid unit in theory should adapt on XR external sorry factors such as font sizes as I've said and the proposal is to actually scratch that and make it always some amount of pixels and As you can see there is a lot of text explaining the lodging behind this merger quest Which I think is really nice So if you're interested to discover more how margin actually works and why it seems to be inconsistent in plasma and how to fix it Well read like go through this couple of merger quest to understand it a bit better and keep in mind that most of the time Well, first of all, what seems to be inconsistent sometimes is actually depending on how you measure it We've seen a lot of screenshots that claim that margins are inconsistent but they're actually they actually are and the people who did a measurement did wrong and Some other times there is inconsistency and those times it should actually be easy to fix it So if you found something that's wrong Well, you can try to contact me and I can try to help out I can't fix everything But I can try to help you fix everything next one improve the do not disturb DND is do not disturb mode explanatory text So before we had do not disturb until today at 1 36 p.m now do not disturb automatically ends today and This is one of those little little changes that contribute to the users actually understanding What's going on a bit easier now? It's not like Necessary it doesn't fix anything that was terribly broken But a lot of caddy depends on this like sure small patches But those that do actually make a difference when you're using it We'll see of course how these things are implemented code wise later in the video First of all, I'm just showing you all of them. Lastly add Indicator line to show desktop So as you know when you click show desktop you see the desktop and right now there's no indicator that it actually happens With this patch, you actually see a new blue line that says hey You're seeing you're showing the desktop if you click on me again, I will turn off and get back the windows So let's go through the code So this one is actually pretty easy what we are adding is a line and how do we add a line? We add a frame SVG item. Why a frame SVG item? So that line is actually an SVG Why is it an SVG because it comes from the plasma theme now plasma theme could be breeze and In that case if only breeze exists that in the world We would probably just use a rectangle or something But since third parties could also do their own themes and they cannot do right now QML themes Well, we have to go with SVG So we load up the SVG from the theme by default it's breeze and by default it's a line Third party themes could be something different. So we do load that SVG and then we have anchors field parent Let me actually zoom this in anchors field parent simply means Make this as big as the parent element, which is probably the root element So as big as there's space available image path Widgets tab bar. This is the actual path to the SVG relative to the Plasma theme. So if you go into the plasma theme, there is widgets tab bar dot SVG and you open it And there's all sort of lines now there are all sorts of lines because that line could be on the top on the bottom on the left on the right and Prefix the prefix variable is actually the one that says, okay, I want this particular line We have at least five kind of kind of lines The West, North, East, South one and the active tab one which to be honest I forgot what that one is but these four are pretty easy to understand It's about the four sizes Sides now plasma core types left edge top edge right edge is Saying depending on the location of the plasmoid. So if it's on the left edge, you use the West So the right line if we are on the top use the North so on the bottom line If you are on the right we use on the East so on the left line and I mean, that's pretty easy to understand if There's no prefix. So if we are not in any of those cases We use just active tab which is I guess a generic something that doesn't assume the direction Or maybe it's just a line on the top and don't remember then there is opacity if we are showing the desktop Then it's one which means that it's normal. Otherwise, it's zero Which means that it's invisible and then we see on opacity We do a number number animation about the where is it the opacity? Sorry. Yeah, it's here Which lasts plasma core units short short duration and with this easing type So this is just to actually animate the peering and disappearing of this line Next one do not disturb Explanatory text. This is of course pretty easy. We are taking the time We are formatting it and then we are adding do not disturb until date Automatically ends and then there is this which means that in here on the first position Hence the one insert lower case and the time which is the time that well The do not disturb mode actually ends in Formatted as it's written here. So lower case plus slice and what that ends up being is today at 136 p.m. Pretty easy this one this one. I mean I've shown you before It's just changing the grid unit divided by four to just four, which means four pixels is a pretty easy one In here as well. We say the small spacing is grid unique divided by four. We remove that It's just four and so on in here. Similarly. We're just adding all of the properties We're saying there is a lot. Sorry. There is a medium spacing which is small spacing multiplied by 1.5 There is a medium spacing. There is a medium spacing, which is more spacing multiplied by 1.5 If you want a medium spacing get the medium spacing if you want to set the medium spacing and Well, if it's the same as before don't do anything But if it's different then we actually set the new size We do say that we set a custom size for the medium spacing and then we emit a signal to let everybody know that The medium spacing changed pretty easy in here. We have a bit of documentation This one. Well, I go I won't go through the code of this one because it's complex and I want to do this one Which is even complex here, but I mean I've shown you this before. Let's jump into this one So for this one, I I will actually need to Take this reference to actually show what everything is Comparing it to the actual screenshot. So we are adding I'm only going to talk about the green lines because it's adding stuff The red lines was removing what was there before so green lines Important stuff column layout. This is the header layout with the screenshot up. I'm sorry. I went to have yes Sorry, I missed a part. Okay. This is the column layout a column Which is the pitch content and I mean it's everything It's this part up here the buttons the screenshot text this contains everything inside of this one Which is called page layout and as a spacing between all of the elements vertically Which is up in for internal spacing there is a rectangle, which is the header and its background rectangle So this one which is a darker gray now underneath this one Well, we say first of all the implicit height is the height of the header layout So of the elements inside of it plus the header layout anchors top margin So plus the margin of the elements inside of it The color is the background color, but a bit darker pretty easy Then there was there is what I was talking about Which is the header layout with the screenshot a bacon name everything and other which is a column. So Where is it screenshot? Why screenshot up icon? So here here here here Okay, so this part on the top left screenshot I'm a bit confused because screenshot are actually on the bottom and there is a spacing between the elements of zero Because as explained by the comment children bring their own spacing So first of all, we have the screenshots, which are probably If I have to guess let me try to guess If we see all of the screenshots here, okay, you can see that it's actually on the top here It's probably either a hold or newer a screenshot, but yeah screenshots on the top and it's a scroll view So basically it's a list of elements that you can actually scroll through because maybe the screenshots are more than you can Actually fit it's visible if the count of screenshots is at least one pretty easy to understand it fills all of the width and the height is Well the windows height multiplied one-fourth of the windows height or at least 20 grid units from Kurogami and then we have an application screenshot Component which is in a separate file here and well it just displays all of the screenshots Then we get a separator here Which also fills with and is visible if there is at least two screenshots could be Okay, I'll admit I'm slightly confused by the fact that this separator is only shown if there is at least two screenshots But I guess the idea is if there is only one screenshot Then you won't have to scroll because it's actually it just fits and so it will just display this screenshot And that's about it makes sense and then there is a rolling out which is horizontally with the margin again Margin is around spacing is inside and again children bring their own and there is the actual app icon which is here and We get the size of the icon which is some math. It's not particularly complex and then we set that Size to be both the width and height the source of the icon is the app info Application icon the right margin is up info internal spacing and then we get a column layout Which is this column one two three four elements with app name description Description author a rating again no spacing, but it does fill width So it's as large as possible with a heading So the name of the application is bigger. It's bold The text is up info application name and it also fills with then there is font width and so on Then there is the short description which is a label and it takes the text from a pin for application command Then there is an item which is just implicit height large spacing. So it's basically a margin of With actually sorry height large spacing then Here you can see that there is this spacing. It's actually an invisible item Then there is another label for the order. Then there is another invisible Element to actually show the margin from this thing here and then there is a row layout So again horizontally because we have to display all of the stars and rating one on the left and one on the right So technically it's a row with the rating and the label which says ratings or no ratings yet Then we get a column yet column layout, which is this one on the right with well You guessed it a label then a separator and a label Then a separator then a label then a separator and in all these cases There is fill with true So it's as well with as wide as possible is slightly transparent so it looks a bit grayish and The text is distributed by and then you always go get the info from up info So it's not particularly complex We get all of these things and then there is licenses here, which is a flow So there might be more than one. That's why we get a flow Flow it is generally like could be some it really depends. It's a layout So it's to actually show all all of the elements But you can't really tell what kind of layout without looking at the code in this case you align elements Horizontal in the center in the horizontal center So I guess one on top of another I guess and then there is a repeater using a url button so a link and the link has as Or is it model data which comes from up here? Which is the model which is up in for application licenses. What's happening? So the model up info application licenses has all of the information about the licenses in particular It has two things which is the name and the url So and when you're when we're giving the model to the repeater it has it creates a lot of copies of this url button Saying for each one what is the name and what is the url of this particular element and it's a link It's just a link then we get another separator and that should be about it What else colon layout layout for textile content probably the description down here then another element And it's external external resources. I can't speak anymore and it's documentation website don't need to report back and We see that it's named button button layout. So it's a property and Guess what there is a tool button with a tooltip and then there is another tool button. How are these tool button made? Simply put the width is the widest button in the button layout So we take all of the buttons we see how with How wide sorry again each button is and we take the widest and we use that size for all of the buttons we Show the button only if the help url isn't nothing Otherwise, we don't show the button and then the text of this particular button is documentation Then there is website and for each one. We also show a name. We just sorry an icon We just give the name of the icon in this case internet services then button button Tooltip tooltip is of course when you put the mouse on top on top of the button And you leave it it for a bit of time in this case is Install of remove add-ons for the application name and that's it really there was still a couple of changes Later on but then it's mostly red stuff. So the older things So I've just went through this whole change, of course, not really Reading each single line, but that's not useful I was here to explain you the general concept and as you can see I think it's not that difficult to understand. You just have to have a rough Understanding of QML really and that was everything. I'm really happy that you made it this far 23 minutes is a lot is much longer than usual So really, thank you for sticking around this long and also. Thank you for all of the people there Oh, I got the right direction. I usually do this all of the people there for sponsoring this videos And that's what really allows me to make them because I do this Basically every day and it's not really easy to find the time and given that I do receive donation Then it's like my job and I'm able to actually find the time to do this. So it's very nice So thanks everyone and see you tomorrow


This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network Definitely a tough day in the sporting world a fourth day with the news that Mike leach has passed away Mike leach of course one of the more fun personalities across all of sports not just college football But I remember I'd go home for Christmas and my stepdad would always like ask me Hey, do you know did you hear this most recent quote from Mike leach? I go back and I watched on Twitter YouTube whatever and like every time it lived up to the hype There was never like an oversold moment from Mike leach. It was always fun Did you know he already had to say almost regardless of what he was talking about and also like you think about sports the fun things are you want big personalities and you want at least for me fun offense and He brought both of those things. So a tough day definitely with Mike leach passing away We'll talk more about that tomorrow on the show with doctor at fang get his thoughts on stuff his memories of Mike leach, but also we're in preview the College football bullseeds and some more more like leach talk coming up then but just wanted to Open these things up here by talking about that because definitely a tough way to open the day for today And thoughts to everyone who was impacted by Mike leach because I know that that is a a lot of people out there But we'll talk more about that tomorrow on the show with Ed coming up on today here on covering the spread You're gonna take our first look at NFO week number 15 based on these spreads and money lots and totals over a fan Sportsbook I'll run through my power rankings haven't done that yet here on the show But I thought it might be a fun addition to the show kind of let you know where my numbers are at the top of the scales See who may be separating there and then we'll also recap last week here on the show and how things went just for transparency See his first transparency perspective on all of that This is covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network and number fire calm My name is Jim saw this I am a senior writer and analyst for number fire here Like I said to break down what we're seeing across the NFL entering week 15 both my power rankings perspective and a betting Perspective will dive into all that in just one second But first a reminder to make sure you are subscribed to covering the spread wherever you get your podcast We of course are an upper podcast Spotify Stitcher Google podcast Amazon podcast wherever you listen You can find us and if you like what you hear drop us a rating interview as well because it does help us out a bunch Looking to get more out of this NFL season Well, now is the perfect time to download fan dual America's number one sportsbook because new customers get a no sweat first bet Up to one a thousand dollars. 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I expect to impact week 15 specifically. So for example, DeBos Daniel is not done for the year But he's not gonna play for week 15. So I this is taking him out stuff like that So this is just for week 15, but broadly applicable for some other stuff as well So Baltimore might be lower than you expect because I'm expecting Lamar to sit again Stuff like that San Francisco the same thing the one thing that my two betting models agree upon is that the Eagles are second Regardless of the model there the team in first is not the same We'll talk about it a second, but the Eagles are second regardless the model They're efficient in every aspect an offense the defense has been able to overcome It's deficiencies in recent weeks getting Jordan Davis back signing in down to consume when Valjosa stuff like that I think that they're they are aware of their deficiencies and accounting for them and I find that super encouraging in terms of Trying to figure out a team's longevity Can you adjust after teams adjust to you? And it seems like the Eagles can it's not a hot take obviously to rank the Eagles second But I think that it is noteworthy because they have played a soft schedule people aware of that But I do think it's noteworthy that they do great out Well, even after you adjust for the teams they faced the key difference Across the two models is a team in first for each one in my traditional model Which is back testing better right now compared to the newer model the cheese are first and the other model It's a bills. I think the reasoning for this split is that the newer model is Expecting regression for the chiefs on late downs They are an outlier in how good they've been in terms of late down success rates Especially looking like third and long their bananas. I don't know if that's sustainable It might be because it's Patrick my home's Andy Reid. It's Travis Kelsey. It might be sustainable But I don't want to like assume that it is that they're a true outlier there And that's why they're lower in that model than they are in my more traditional model It's also penalizing them a lot for their defense, which is I think a legitimate liability letting up 28 points to Russell Wilson Brett Rippin on Sunday did not look good. So I Lean more toward my new models ranking for the chiefs specifically because the defense stinks. They've lost Key head-to-head matchups with the bills and Bengals That's not factored in like win-loss record is not in there But I wouldn't be shocked if they are the best team when all said and done I just don't think I'd put them there right now because the defense because of stuff like that and potential regression on late downs in the traditional model the rest of top five after the chiefs and Eagles is the Cowboys and Bengals and bills. I think that all makes a lot of sense After that we get a bit of a surprise because again, this is just for week six or week week 15 So knocking down teams like the Ravens the 49ers The Lions are next up. I think that's too high Which is why I'm like wincing as I say it I think they're too high in this model But this model gives a ton of weight to passing efficiency and the Lions have been among the most efficient passing offices and footballs this year Especially once you account for injuries, you know account for not even DJ Chark not having a monorail St. Brown for a couple of games Josh Reynolds is out. They missed a lot of guys and those guys are not healthy so this is Interesting to me. I think it's too high. They're 11th in my other model. So there is a pretty big gap But it's also it's the same tier. I think they're legitimately good football team You know even again if my more pessimistic model has them ranked 11th That's still pretty high and that's like a legit playoff team so I think they're an actually good football team and We'll talk about the implications of that as we talk about week 15 later on If we focus on the new model top five there is bills one Eagles two Bengals three Cowboys and then the cheese. So it's the same top five for both models Just in different orders Effectively with the cheese and the bills kind of being flipped and I can live with that But I do think it's worth noting the Cowboys and Bengals belong firmly in that top tier I have no reservations about making them either of those teams a top five team both these teams have Been good Despite a lot of changes throughout this year. They made adjustments, you know, more so the Bengals They made adjustments in the Cowboys, but I think that the big takeaway for me from looking at these numbers is There is a tier of five at the top after you downgrade the 49ers for their injuries that tier being Bengals Cowboys Eagles cheese spills not in that order But I think that those top five are the prohibitive favorites to take this thing down again Like no Lamar in there no Deebo stuff like that, but I think I feel very firm putting those top five in a tier The final ranking I wanted to highlight here was the Jags their eighth and one model and 12th and the other They're similar to the Lions where they're higher in the one model because it uses up passing efficiency a lot and they're very good They're Trevor Lawrence is playing good football. So they might be able to raid in the one model, but I like them a lot I Considered taking their money line against the Cowboys for this week I haven't gotten there yet because again my numbers do love Dallas, but I don't think we should sleep on them Maybe I should take the Jags money line given the defensive injuries of Cowboys have and stuff like that and now Terence seal being out Maybe I should go Jags there, but I don't know maybe I'll just Maybe I'll try to find a way to bet the over in that game. My numbers aren't showing value there But I just for fun to use to get something there I'll stack in DFS whatever it may be but the Jags and Lions both teams think are very noteworthy In terms of where they rank my power rankings But tier five at the top bills cheese Eagles Bengals Cowboys and I feel very good about those five teams Specifically now let's take those rankings and spin them forward to talk about week number 15 because right now There are five bets I want to lock in for week number 15 and two of them are actually in the same game That's all on Saturday for the Vikings Colts game I want the Vikings minus four and the under at 48 and a half both which are available right now at Fandalsport book my numbers have told me to bet against Minnesota in for their past six games and it were perfectly last week So if you remember last year if you were listening to cover the spread My numbers were high in the Vikings at all times talked about their wind total over this all season It became a kind of a running joke my numbers are too on the Vikings That is very much not been the case this year, especially the past two months or so So this is not a Jim's numbers are still too on the Vikings thing But my numbers for this week have the Vikings favored over the Colts by six point three seven and six point two six points Depending on the model. So both models agree. There is value here. I'm expecting Christian Dara saw to be back for this game He is a left tackle He cleared concussion protocol prior to week 14 But they held him out because he had two concussions and pretty rapid succession, but with his clearing protocol I feel like they get Dara saw back Harrison Smith probably back here as well. The Colts offense. I think they suck I don't think they'll be able to run the football here. I think the Vikings rush defense is pretty good the rushing offense numbers despite The name value of like Jonathan Taylor and some of the guys along the offensive line still it hasn't been good and Matt Ryan Potension a negative script that could get kind of gross and that's why I'm laying the minus four as far as the total It's a lot of the stuff, you know I don't think the Cal the the Colts be able to move the ball super well Skeptical Matt Ryan the Vikings on offense not the most explosive team So it is tougher to cover a four-point spread when I also want the under at 48 and a half You know, you typically want to go reverse of that But I do think both sides are the correct way to read this one So I'll take the Vikings minus four and the under a 48 and a half in that same game My numbers also do like another favorite this week and that's the Eagles minus eight and a half against the Bears I mentioned the Eagles are second in both my models right now The Bears are 29th or lower in both and a lot of that's because the defense the defense Wasn't good and then got really really hurt. So it may feel odd to have them so low with Justin Fields playing very good football right now, but the passing offense is still not very good and When you're talking about covering eight and a half, you know One of the fears you have is a backdoor cover But if they're not gonna throw the ball efficiently, which I don't think they will with our now Mooney being out Which is kind of bad talent a pass catcher It's tougher to see a backdoor cover happening and this defense is banged up Which may not be as true coming off there by but I don't think the Bears are a good football team That's good thing for them. They should be bad because it gets them a better draft pick That is a positive thing for them and fields has played good enough to give them hope So I think that's encouraging too, but I think the Eagles are just a very good football team I think they're better than the eight and a half implies Eight and a half is a key number in terms of if you're looking for teasers I'm not a big teaser person because typically requires me to have both Two situations I like and to get across the important key numbers This one does fit that and I'd be receptive to putting this in a teaser I just couldn't find a good dance partner for it So I'll take it straight up at the eight and a half if you have another game you like and are looking for a teaser I think this is a great one. I just couldn't find a second one myself. So Eagles minus eight and a half is the way I'd play this one But again, it is in play for that if you find another team that you want to tease for this week The other two bets I like for this week are both money line underdogs Those are the seahawks against the 49ers and the giants against the commanders Seattle is a plus 154 if annual you might be able to get 158 at some other spots So chop her out of this one and most of this is because The 49ers injuries make this a volatile offense to project right now because it's the first time we've seen A full game of Brock Purdy with no divo because when divo got hurt against the buccaneers They were already up big in that game and purdy. I think through like three pass attempts in the second half now purdy has an oblique injury And there's no divo that should eventually add up now it is Frightening to bet the Seattle money line given that You think about the way Seattle got manhandled by the panthers despite stacking the box in that game You know Christian McCaffrey is going to be able to go bananas in this game. So that's tough That's tough mentally to get over but I think Seattle's offense can somehow keep pace here So you've got a lot of volatility on the 49ers Which means that getting plus 154 on a money line is pretty intriguing Under 40 implied win odds for the for the seahawks there So yeah, they could get smoked. They might not get a stop at all defensively But that's all baked into this number So I am going to take the seahawks at plus 154 to win this game against the 49ers despite the fact it is Frightening to envision this 49ers rushing offense against the seahawks rush defense As mentioned, the other one is the Giants at plus 176 against the commanders the commanders are coming off a buy They're at home It is a repeat matchup and in that first one. I took the Giants money line I should have taken the spread because the money line wound up pushing But I still like them here I'm less bullish on this one than the seahawks one because I'm not sure what Leonard Williams will play Williams missed last week. I believe he's ruled boutful which Implies that he has a chance to suit up this week because he was not ruled out officially But they also could be without racy james and daniel bellinger The Giants though aren't laying down. I know that they didn't play well against the eagles But as mentioned the eagles are a very very good football team. I don't think taylor heinecky is equivalent to jill and hertz So volatility can be our friend taylor heinecky can be a volatile quarterback because he Kind of plays like he thinks he's patrick mahomes sometimes. He's not quite, you know They're athletically or from an arm talent perspective. So volatility can be a good thing And I think this is one of the spots where it does help us So I will be willing to take the Giants a plus 176 despite concerns or an injury specifically Leonard williams But also to a lesser extent ritchie james and daniel bellinger One bet i'm not making this week despite showing values of dolphins at plus seven and a half against the bills I'm just really worried about toa I talk a lot on the show about negative highlight bias and how it can play into The way we bet, you know, we overemphasize the bad plays and may underrated team as a result, but like The bad plays have been real bad Like it kind of seems a little yipsy like got the yips potentially. I don't know. I don't know what's going on But it looks real bad to and look better the second half against the chargers And I thought that was good, but it was still not encouraging this game is currently projected to have wind speeds around 15 miles per hour. I don't care about the snow, but 15 mile per hour winds We've seen the bills playing that we haven't seen the dolphins do so super successfully very often Jeff wilson's banged up, which means they might not be as able to overcome The elements in this game is they would if wilson and most are both healthy I don't think the bills are well suited for this weather either. We saw them playing in Game with a little bit of wind and some precipitation on sunday against the jets and the jets Barely covered, but like I thought played decently especially on defense there But that's also the jets defense. Just defense is a lot better than the dolphins. So It's possible. I'm overselling how big of a deal all this is the two a yip stuff combined with the winds But it's still rough. Um, I gave it thought I I think there's a chance that maybe I'm Overselling the concerns here, but you know, if you want to if you're not as concerned I would take the points at plus seven and a half But as of right now, I'd rather make no bet than make one that I regret. So for me I'm just going to wind up staying away most likely And ignore a spot where my numbers are joining value The final one I want to discuss was that the lions because again They're very different my two power rankings and the same thing applies in the york jets Just so happens both those teams are playing in week number third week number 15 If I look at my traditional model again, this one has performed better I'm kind of running them both in tandem and seeing which one back tests better to see which one I want to go with for next year as of right now the lions in the traditional model It says they should be favored by three points in this game despite it being in new jersey So it has the lions and three point favorites here The other one has the jets as three point favorites a six point difference between the two two models is nuts and Kind of concerning I guess but the lions against super high and one a little bit lower than the other The jets super high in the the newer model because it loves their defense Their early down efficiency is actually okay in terms of what they've done there. So I understand why We get to both situations where one model likes the lions one model likes the jets I didn't think there'd be a six point gap between the two because that is massive, but I'm just going to stay away. You know, if there is this much uncertainty I like both these teams. I kind of don't want to root against either of them So the way I get out of it is that with the model's degree and I say, okay I don't have a great read on this. I can just let it be and I again I'd rather make no bet than one that I regret. So I'm going to let that one slide and see how it plays out But loving what jerry golf is doing love this jets defense. So I'm excited for that game. I'm just not going to be wind up I'm not going to wind up betting it unless the markets go really really wild over the next couple of days So to recap the things I actually am betting for this week. I like the eagles minus eight and a half against the bears I like the vikings minus four against the colts and the under in that game at 48 and a half And then I like the Giants money line against the commanders at plus 176 and the seahawks money line at plus 154 As my bets for this week Hopefully week 15 goes as well as week 14 did speaking to which let's dive in now to our recap of this past week We'll start things off with some world cup. We talked at world cup with dr. Ed fang We had three bets we talked about last week on the show with ed Those wound up going one and two the losses were france england under two and a half goals And france england to have an even number of goals those were minus 126 and minus 110 respectively the winner Uh, the winning bet for ed was a thriller which was netherlands and argentina to have an even number of goals It was two nothing lights so tracking to be a good bet there But the netherlands scored to make it two to one which meant that I you know no longer even number But then they hit the equalizer in stoppage time to make it an even number I was on a plane so I didn't get to actually watch this game But uh reading about the fact is pretty fun. Uh, that was minus 115 So fun way to win a bet for ed. Um, you know one and two overall but fun to get the win in that fashion We're gonna talk more world cup of that on friday. So we're not going to get thoughts on the semifinals Before that comes up, but we're talking that on friday to talk about uh the the finals of the world cup get his read on that and We'll also have ed on wednesday to do a bowl preview So if you're doing like a college football bowl pool with your office or with your family and stuff like that We'll go through some strategies for that because that is a genius when it comes to that stuff We'll talk about that talk about some specific games. He likes games. He might like more than others. Um, but Should be a good one talking to ed there We had jj's ecorice and on to talk player props Uh, he split the yardage bets check out jj on twitter at late round qb and check him out at late round He had nick chubb over seven and a half receiving yards chubb Finished with three receptions for 20 yards that one hit pretty easily Other one was daniel bellinger over 19 and a half receiving yards bellinger Caught his third pass to get to 19 receiving yards, but he left with a rib injury. He Had he had a 61 snap rate here. He's typically around 90 when he's healthy. So Probably would have gotten there if not for the injury Tough way to lose that one with bellinger The touchdown bet for jj was isaia mckenzie a plus 290 mckenzie did have five targets and a rush attempt But no touchdowns there but a split on the yardage props and a tough loss in the bellinger one Probably would have had it if not for the injury, but A tough break for jj there finally we had ryan williams on to talk Both week 14 and monday night football the sunday bets for ryan went four and three hits were the chargers Plus three and a half they won that game outright The lions vikings over 52 and a half the bangles minus six and a half despite some wild movement on sunday in that game I think it closed like three and a half Despite being six and a half. So no clv, but a pretty emphatic win for ryan despite that That was also even money at six and a half and then he had the jags plus three and a half and they won outright so pretty Fun couple of wins there for ryan there The losses where the bill is minus nine and a half They won by eight the bucks plus three and a half and the dolphins charged over 51 and a half So profit week for ryan on sunday monday night ryan like the cardinals patriots over 43 and a half It's tough to know how much the kyler murray injury influenced the way this game played out because Cardinals often didn't do a whole lot, but also gave up some special team scores It finished with 40 points that the under hit there But hard to know how much kyler's injury from under stevenson davante parker all that stuff played into that game going under We didn't hit on the any time touchdown calls. Those were Kyler murray at plus 290 hunter henry at plus 330 Then ryan also mentioned mac jones over one of that passing touchdowns of plus 142 The yardage slash other props that what did go well for ryan three and one on those He had hunter henry over 30 and a half receiving yards. He had 70 in that game ryan also had james connor over 18 and a half receiving yards He had 29 and he had deandre hopkins with over six and a half receptions at plus 106 He finished with seven. So actually three eight out on those I counted the mac jones one under there, but three and on the uh, the yardage slash reception props Oh and three on the touchdown bets, but I think a solid reason ryan overall Hard to know how the the kyler injury would have influenced things if kyler would have gotten that touchdown He was running which I thought was good as we discussed in the show But I think a good read from ryan a good week overall for ryan once again I had I think my best week of the year so far. I hit on four to five bets We discussed here on the podcast on tuesday that did include the jag's money line at plus 166 It wound up closing at plus 150 once it became clear that trevor lorence was good to go And he was not good to go. He was great to go. He played awesome in that game. Um, so lorence Quickly becoming one of my favorite quarterbacks. I know like part of that's because I've Profited off of his playing well and that the ravens game had the money line and then this one as well But he's just he's a good quarterback and it's fun to watch Good college quarterbacks translate into good nfl quarterbacks. I think we're seeing that with lorence And it's it's been fun to watch. So I like lorence lotta and I like that that jag's team They're pretty fun as well. I also have a total in that game. We talked about that tuesday It was 42 and a half and I said that I wanted to wait and I would take it once it got to 41 and a half Which it did do during the day tuesday. So probably by the time you listened to it It was down to 41 and a half It actually got down to 40 and a half So I did not get the best number which is frustrating But the jag scored 36 by themselves and there were 58 total points in that game so Didn't get clv on that one But I felt good about my read on that and felt good about the results as well With that one going well over 41 and a half Other two wins were the lions at minus one and a half and the jets at plus nine and a half The jets one might have been a bit lucky because it was aided by a safety, but They lost that game by eight. I'll take it They could have potentially had some other stuff working their favor had it not been for the safety So I think they still might have covered, you know, even if not for the safety But I'll take it out of the way. It's a win wins a win for sure lines kick, but um They played really well the entire game It got to two and a half pretty quickly after we talked but then went back to one and a half Really fun market to track the entire week, honestly with that line It's kind of hoping we see something chaotic with this jets game too So maybe I can get some action there, but not expecting to but I wouldn't be mad If it were to get a little bit wonky there Um, but the lines just played great. So felt good about that one the entire way The loss to me last week was the seahawks at minus three and a half They got a big hole early They couldn't claw the way back a bit concerning that my numbers were on seattle once again I've been betting against the 49ers a lot not last week, but overall been betting against them a lot. So It's a convergence of a team My numbers have liked and one they've been more skeptical of than the market So we'll see how things play out But I do still feel good about the seahawks money line for this week despite the loss in them last week As for last night the two props I mentioned were remonder stevens and under 75 and a half rushing yards and nelson agalore Over 29 and a half receiving yards now for transparency sake I did not bet these because I was in florida So I could uh, unless I I think they have casino betting, but I couldn't be mobile. So I didn't uh, so these were more soft recommendations than Full recommendations stevensson got hurt. Uh, not fun to win that way I finished I think like 10 yards. So it's a win I don't feel great about it because I like remonda stevensson don't want her to get hurt but Did catch there agalore finished with 32 yards on 10 targets It took him 10 targets to get to the over on that number which again also doesn't feel great And also davante parker injury, but hey, you know, um I wish I'd gotten a beniova to bet those but a four in one week overall the full recommendations with one of the wins being a Plus 166 money line That's a nice week and I'll take that for sure It's nice confirmation that as we talked about a lot throughout this this year My results have not been good But the numbers are back testing well if I bet everything I'd have positive positive ROI both the money lines and spreads I haven't been doing that and haven't been profitable, but it's nice confirmation that That Act testing well can translate to good results going forward and I I can take a lot of uh saw us in that just have to keep picking well and Build on a solid week 14. Hopefully run it back once again in week 15 We'll talk more about week 15 of the NFL on thursday by talking to ryan williams It will also talk some player props with jj zack recent on friday as mentioned the rest of the roadmap for this week Got ed fang on tomorrow talks and bowls will talk again Like I said some Mike leech there as well talk about bowl pools and get you set for those add back with us friday as well Talk about the world cup final and get his read on that one in addition to jj on friday as well That is all that we have here for today though on covering the spread as mentioned Please make sure you are subscribed wherever you get your podcast because numbers move We want you to get these numbers as quickly as possible Before they move against uh moving our favor and stuff like that so You want to get the best numbers? 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from Terry Bottenhill, and I hope it's up for questions. Ready to roll? All right, guys. First of all, we appreciate you being here today. We appreciate you guys being patient with us. I know we did this kind of at a different time, and we usually do it, and we made a change. We appreciate you guys adapting. I kind of want to thank some people in the building. We've had a very productive, effective, efficient process getting prepared for the draft. There's a lot of people that have a lot to do with that, starting with administration, all the work they've done, and continue to do with the salary cap, getting us in position to do some business. The pro scouting staff has done an exceptional job working along with the coaches and bringing in players that fit the ethos, that fit the character, the culture, and they've allowed us to feel some needs and check some boxes heading into the draft. I want to thank the college staff. Again, they've been on this process for over a year, and they've done an exceptional job in an uncommon year, in a unique year, and they've still figured out a way to get their jobs done, and they've operated and got us all the information we need. I want to thank IT Analytics Development. We can't go through a name, every name, but you guys are a big part of this, a big part of this process, and also the coaching staff, where they have a lot on their plate. They have a lot to do, but they've done a good job working along with the pro scouts, the college scouts, giving clear visions of the types of players that are going to fit here, and they've evaluated a lot of players. This is a very inclusive process, and there are no egos involved, and it's our process. It's going to be our draft. It's our free agents. It's our team, so we appreciate everyone, and we feel very excited and prepared going into the draft. All right, we'll open up to questions in order of submission. First up, Zach Klein, if you want to hit your two questions and just address who they're for when you ask. Hey, good morning, gentlemen. Terry, this is for you. I wanted you to just walk me through the evaluation process. How many prospects did you start looking at? Do you want to go down to interviews? Do you want to go down to how many are seriously considered at that number four spot?  I can't give you an exact number, but you start off with a big number, and you get your board down to, I want to say our board's probably about 150 right now, and you go through that process, it starts off with the college scouts, they have several evaluations on the players, and then you get the coaches involved, and they evaluate the players, we get meetings together, and we discuss the players and discuss the fits, and you get the medical staff involved, and there's some players that might not fit medically, and so it's really a narrowing process. So I would say right now, we're probably down to right around in that range of 150. And do you know who you are picking at number four, and if so, when did you come to that decision? Well, there's still variables involved, so we know the players that we would be discussing there, and we can all anticipate the first three picks, but it has to actually happen, and then from that point, we have to weigh the options in terms of if we trade back and compare it to the player we could get it for, or if we trade back, what would be the value, so we have to weigh all those different variables and those different scenarios, so we know the players we're talking about, and we've gone through the different things that can happen, but you never know what's gonna happen at that exact moment, but we know the players that we're talking about. Tori McLeanie? Yeah, my first one's for Terry. You've already mentioned this, but I wanted to go into more detail about the salary cap. I've already had to work pretty hard just to get under the cap before the start of the league year, and I was just curious what more needs to be done in terms of signing this graph class, and maybe if you could talk in maybe general terms about what the next steps are. Yeah, Tori, you're right. It really is, and I respect the work that you guys have done on this because it is true, and it's a challenge, and we knew it was gonna be a challenge, and we're fine with that. It's just we have to continue going through that process. We still have work to do to get, just to be able to sign our graph class and be able to operate throughout the year. So it's a challenge. There are different options we can look at, and we look at it, we're not looking at it as a negative. We think it's an opportunity, and we're excited about what we're gonna do. We're gonna have a big rookie class, probably maybe the biggest rookie class that we've had here, and we're excited about that. We're gonna bring in a lot of young, hungry guys that are gonna, we're gonna have clear visions for what they are, and they're gonna have chances to compete early on. And look, we've had players in the building, we've had some unselfish players that have taken pay cuts and players that have restructured. So it's been a good opportunity for us, I believe, but to where you're right, we still have a lot of work to do. My second question's for Arthur. I know you said the first time that we talked to you that you load group think. And I feel as though when it comes to the draft, there has to come to a certain head, and there has to be a certain element where everybody's on the same page. Do you feel like you've reached that conjuncture, or are there still discussions between coaching staff and general manager with Terry? You know, we've got a great process with Terry when he opened this thing up with his opening statement, and it's the truth. I mean, we do those group think, and we've had a great set of opinions. You have your college scouts who've been working tirelessly, they don't get a lot of the credit, they're on the road, they bring a lot of the information, and it gets filtered in. And then the process has been great. Everybody's had a voice, coaches, scouts, everybody in those rooms, and it helps. It helps you to find that we want, the guys that we want to bring to the Falcons, we got to have conviction about it, and we can have disagreements, but when we walk out of there and we set it, we understand we have a clear vision, we come to a consensus in there, into a room, and we feel great about where we put the players on the board. But that was a big part of our process, and we stuck to it. That's who we want to be. All right, do you really want to let it better? Yes, for Terry and Arthur, can you reflect on how the collaboration has been for you all over this pre-draft period for the Betterment of the franchise, and touch on what has been the role of Arthur Blank in this process? The collaboration, excuse me, has been excellent. And I would say, starting with the man to my left, he's obviously very smart and he has strong opinions, and yet he doesn't have an ego. If he has an ego, I haven't seen it yet, and all our time together, and he's a great listener, and he does a great job, whether it's myself, or like he said, the coaches, the scouts, in terms of listening, and allowing everyone to have a voice, and it's been great collaboration. And it's been, if we're making decisions on anything, major decisions on players or anything in life, I want to talk to him about it, because he has a good way of looking at things, and so it's been excellent. It's been exciting. We know it starts at the top with that, and it's been exceptional. And you asked about Arthur's role? Yes. I also wanted to hear from Arthur on the collaboration too. Yeah, I mean, it's been pretty much set in. It's the same way I feel about Terry. I mean, both of us, this transition has been unbelievable. We obviously didn't know each other well coming into it, but I feel very fortunate to be working with Terry. And it has, but both of us listen. We listen to the other coaches, the other scouts, and that's what we want. And we mean what we say, and that part has been great. And obviously, we're excited going into tomorrow night, and really throughout the weekend. It's not just about the fourth pick, or any scenario that we move back. It's about all the players we bring in here. That's the heart of your team. I mean, a lot of attention gets put on the first pick, and I get it. It drives Rating, it drives Clis, it's exciting. But the reality is, we're going to bring nine-plus football players in here for the first time to be part of this culture in year one. So we're excited about that. And the second part was, what was Arthur Blank's role? Scott Piolli described the six years he was here as he helped you all along the way, but he didn't get in the way of the decision-making process. Well, that's been his role the entire time. I mean, he runs the whole AMB Sports and Entertainment. And he's been awesome. And we've leaned on him for multiple, whether it's a role as a mentor and some of the hard decisions we've had to make so far. He's going to ask questions, and we've got to have the answers to why we want to do stuff. And that's in any industry in any business. We all have bosses, and that's the way it should be. And so there's like everything. There's a lot of rumors that go around, and people want to build up these narratives of this or that. And look at Scott Piolli. He can speak on Scott Piolli's experience. Great. Terry and I will speak on our experiences, all we know here together, and that role. So people want to talk about things in the past. Great. They can shed a light. That was true for whatever time that was. And so it's been great. I mean, he's been great to talk to about a number of subjects, not just the draft. Yeah, it's been great. He's given us, I would say, unwavering support. And like Arthur said, when we want to just, obviously, he has a lot of experience and a lot of business in general. So we can discuss anything with him in all aspects of the business. And he's always available for that. And he's given us every resource we need. And he's empowered us, and he trusts us to make the right decisions. D-Lev, that's a nice hat, man. Thank you. Jeff Schultz. Hi, guys. First question for you following up there earlier on the trades thing. What do you stand in general on the benefits or the issues with trading down to accumulate assets to help build the roster? And kind of going with that, is there, what is the point at which you would sort of cut things off and say, no more, we just got to make a pick? Yeah, it's really a case by case where, Jeff, we have to weigh it if a team, wherever that team is, and the assets, the draft capital that that team would give up, and we have to look at the player we would get it for compared to us anticipating the players that we would be looking at at that later pick, and then obviously taking into consideration the future picks that we would get. So it's really a weighing process at that point. And we have, we've talked to every general manager, and that's just normal prior to the draft to communicate with general managers and see what teams are willing to do, but some things will only happen on the clock. And so we'll be prepared, and we'll have went through the scenarios, but it's just a weighing process in terms of what we would get compared to the player that we think would be there. And then a second question for Arthur. There's a saying in sports, coaches want to win today, general managers want to win tomorrow. You tend to often have a different eye on things. So I think as you both know, and I'm sure you won't need the players, but there's two players in this draft who undoubtedly could help you today. And there's probably a few players in this draft who are undoubtedly can help you tomorrow and could even be perceived as best for the longterm plan for this organization. So as a coach, how do you process that and in terms of working things out with Terry? And is it all for you as a coach, knowing maybe we should take this player better for tomorrow or just part of you want this better player today? Well, there's a couple of things. I mean, you're always looking short-term, long-term, is what you're essentially saying. We're always gonna, when we roll the ball out there, our expectation is to win. And so how do you do that short-term and how do you do it long-term? And that's any point you bring in regardless of position. I know that's easy. It's what's driving it, whether you're talking about the quarterback position, which I assume you're alluding to, or you're talking about other position players, we're looking always, anybody we wanna bring in here, we want them to help us long-term. And that's the investment you're making, you're picking it especially early in the draft. So that's always in consideration. What's the plan short-term? What's the plan long-term? Things can change. There's a lot of variables that go into it. So we're always discussing that, Jeff. Do you struggle with that at all or not? I think it's a struggle. It's just part of the job. You know, you better have a vision for now and then you clearly need to plan for later because there could be a lot of unintended consequences if you're only looking for that short-sight. Kelsey Conway. Thank you. Harry, my first question's for you. How much of a role has Kyle Smith, Wayne Jones and Anthony Robinson played in helping you get the draft board signed in the holy draft process? Yeah, good question. So Kyle Smith actually, he's run the meetings.  I was just telling, he usually calls me, he calls me all night and I haven't slept the last couple of days and I figured out the reason why is because Kyle usually calls me at 11 o'clock and he gets my mind racing because he's so excited and passionate about so much and he's got that natural energy. So he runs the meetings and Dewan and A-Rob have been obviously excellent going through the process and their leadership in this department has been excellent and the entire college scouting staff. It's been going through those meetings has been really good getting to know some of the guys that I haven't known but there's a lot of passion, there's a lot of conviction and they're very well prepared and they do a lot of work. So it's been a really good experience going through that process with that entire staff. And Arthur, heading into free agency, one of the biggest holes on the roster in terms of numbers was at safety. Obviously you added Harris and Harman but do you feel like you're set at the safety position with those two guys? Or is that a position that you guys will look to add more players to over the next month? Well, I don't think you ever look at it. You're just set at that position. It certainly helps in the pieces we've added to the roster going into the draft where you maybe don't feel it's desperate to reach in certain areas. We're excited about Eric and Dron. We're excited to bring those guys into our program and their quality veterans that can play that they fit our scheme. So it helps. But I don't think you ever look at it kind of to what Jeff was asking earlier. I don't ever think you just say on paper, hey, we signed these two guys, you're set. We draft this player set because there's so many things that happen. I mean, it's a constantly looking at the roster. The injuries happen. They're going to happen. Unfortunately, things can come up during the season, so you're constantly looking to improve. And so that would be at any position we have. Go to Michael Rothstein. Hey, this question is, I guess, first for either Terry or for Arthur in that. How? Well, please offer Jeff's question. How palatable is it with your first ever pick to take a guy that could potentially be sitting for a year, year and a half, two years? If you went, say, the quarterback. Like, is that something that's even palatable in your situation right now? I think when you're picking at four, we're trying to take an impact player, whether it's a player that's going to sit or a player that's going to play right away. We want to bring in an impact player that fits the culture, that has the right makeup and we have a clear vision for that player. So whether it's someone that's going to sit or whether it's someone that's going to play day one, we have to have a clear vision and we have to feel really good about not only the player and the skill set, but also the person that we're bringing into this building. And that's when you talk about any draft pick, really. And Terry, the second question would be for you. It's a little bit draft to Jason in that, have you made decisions on fifth year options yet? And where does that stand at this point with Calvin and Hayden? Yeah, those are things we've discussed, but we need to discuss that with those players and with those agents and make sure we have those communications with them as opposed to doing it in this form. Okay, thank you. Steve Weiss. Hey guys, first off, props to Jeff Schultz for taking like a champ that Terry did not compliment his hat as opposed to D-Ledge. So props to that. First, I thought Jeff was wearing a North Carolina hat because the color is just the kind of, but I didn't, I can't tell. But no, hey, just kind of looking, I know the quarterback conversation has been what it's been, but if you don't take one at four, is there one you like among that 150 you were talking about, especially looking at the lack of depth at that position? I mean, could you draft one in a later round? Maybe it's early to second. Well, we have a plan to add quarterbacks and there are some good quarterbacks that are gonna go in the first round. And if you look historically, there have been quarterbacks that from the first round, for the mid rounds, the late rounds, and there's different ways to acquire quarterbacks and there's quarterbacks that have been successful and not successful in all those rounds. So we have to go through the whole process and evaluate every quarterback top to bottom and turn over every stone and make sure we're gonna, we're going through that whole process with those players. So we understand we have to add quarterbacks to the roster and there's a lot of good ones and a lot of good options. And Arthur, just your experience in this, do you believe and when you add players, some people like, I want guys who are captains or leaders or who played in a certain program, are you a believer in that? Or just to you, it's more so fits scheme and culture when you're looking at some of these prospects. Yeah, more so fits the scheme and culture. I mean, I think any player we bring here, regardless of the position, they gotta fit. And that's when you look at the history of the draft, there's a lot of excitement and we gotta get it right. We gotta get the right players in here that can be successful. It doesn't mean somebody, we may not like, can't go somewhere else to be successful. We just don't feel they're fit for us. And that's pretty common throughout the league and that's part of the process. I mean, you go back, you look year over year, a lot of attention is on the first round but the heart of your roster is gonna be these mid-round picks and they need to fit and they need to have a clear vision for them. So it's been exciting and we're excited about that but the culture to fit is really, really important to us. Jermis Davis. Hey guys, these questions for the both of you all. What does your ideal player look like and how have you gone about weeding out guys that doesn't necessarily fit into what you want in a player? The ideal player, well, look, we have spent time with, again, Dean and Dave and Marquis and really all the coaches and they've gone through the profile of exactly what the prototype is for each specific position and we've discussed that. But then what we have to do is as we go through it, all the players aren't gonna fit in this perfect box. So we have to know what the non-negotiables are and we have to know what you have to have at this position and we're finding traits. As you get to later in the draft, sometimes you're finding developmental players with traits and they're not all gonna be perfect but there's been a lot of communication with the coaches at the specific positions and like Arthur alluded to is it's about the makeup and it's not just about the skill set, it's about bringing in the right types of players because when you have the right makeup and you're smart, tough and competitive and you're passionate and you love ball and you love to work and you love to train, we know we have the people in this building from all the resources in this building to get players to reach those ceilings. So it's about us finding a trait that we like and finding the right makeups and we know we'll get those players to get the most of their ability. Yeah, we're not just fixed. I mean, you have ideal side when you look at the floor but as you guys know, I mean, players, it's not one size fits all. I mean, there's somebody that can add value to this team in any phase, you know, we're gonna look at him, we're gonna bring him in. I just don't subscribe to that notion because a guy went to a certain school or he's gotta be this height. Like, you know, we're looking for good football players anywhere. No matter how tall they are, the size they are, what school they went to. And also, if I look up to you Arthur, is it being that the sex that you have with Derek Henry as a running back and does any of that kind of transfer into your line of thinking as far as like, I gotta get this guy that I can get the ball 25, 30 times a game? Oh, because I don't believe this is one of those comparisons. Like, you know, going on the record a few times that that's not fair to any running back we bring in here if you're gonna compare him to somebody like Derek, you know, we need that person to be who he is. And so I think you gotta be objective about it. Okay, why did that work here? It doesn't necessarily mean that you gotta hit, you know, copy, paste, print, there's a game plan, we're ready to roll, that's not how it works. And I just don't believe in comparisons. I mean, we're gonna look for guys with unique skill sets that can help us move to football and score touchdowns and skill positions that regardless of position. So you were tight end running back fullback. So I just don't get those comparisons because it's not fair. I mean that, you know, we had a lot of success there because of Derek and that's a credit to him and those guys there, but it doesn't mean that we gotta pick somebody and think, oh, he's gonna be exactly like player A or B. Charles Odo. Or Terry, you mentioned that you still have work to do to be able to sign your direct class. What role does that cold reality play in any talks that you may have about treading down for additional picks? Yeah, it doesn't really affect the draft in that sense. And we'll still go through the draft and go through and do what we think is best in each particular round and we'll sign an undrafted for agent class and we'll go through the whole process. I wouldn't say it affects the draft in that sense. The only thing it affects is being able to sign, say free agents or make trades for, we have to consider it if there's some opportunities to trade for players but if their cap number isn't right or then that's where it plays into part with the draft but it won't affect the actual draft. We just have to, and we have a plan and we'll figure out a way to get it done. It's a challenge but we're embracing it and we're excited about it, we'll make it work. For Arthur, has the decision on the off season program not been able to see your guys on the field right now affect any assessments you may be wanting to make this time of year on your current players for these decisions in the draft? No, I mean, there's a lot of noise made about it. I mean, we know what the off season, the program really hasn't changed since the CBA in 2011. Now you add the virtual and we all adapted the virtual learning last year. There's always gonna be some sort of virtual right now we're still working through a pandemic and so you know there's gonna be virtual settings and that's what that's the reality is and we gotta make the most of it but it doesn't affect any decisions being made. I mean, you gotta be again, you gotta be objective about the spring and it's a voluntary process that guys wanna come in here and work and then they allow us to go on the field and coach them at some point we'll go out there and coach the guys that are here and you don't wanna overreact regardless to say it was a non-pandemic year and we were out in the field in spring. We're not looking for the king of spring we're looking for guys that are gonna be here and be good football players in late July, August and help us win in the fall, so. You see the side comments, are you reading this? D-Led's crushing our guy, Jeff's hat. He said his hat's whack, are you reading this? No, that's hilarious. I like both the hats. Mark Bradley. This is for Mr. Font, no. Wins and losses tend to get, wins and losses go by the coach's name. Rightly or wrongly, how a GM is rated goes on how he does in the draft. I know you've been around drafts for many, many years but this is kind of the first one you've had where you get to make the call, do you feel nervous? Do you feel excited? Do you feel exhilarated? All of the above, none of the above? Yeah, Mark, I appreciate the question and I would start off with that there's definitely no pressure because I believe the pressure is in the process and the preparation and that's where you put the pressure and someone told me, I don't know if I think it was like a month ago that pressure is a privilege and that's where when you think about your players or in two minute situations and in the fourth quarter at the end of games in the red zone, like you want those players that want the ball, you want the coaches that wanna make those calls like people that embrace the pressure moments. So, but then also I would say there's not any pressure on one person because it really is our process. It really is, it's myself and Arthur, even the narrative that wins and losses going to coaches and players going to GM, we really don't see it like that. That's not how we operate, it's our process. Everything we do, we discuss it and we're doing it together. So every win and losses on both of us, every player that doesn't work out is on both of us. This is our process and when I say us, I'm talking about the man sitting up here and the man that have been grinding, the coaches, the scouts, everyone in this building that it's all about the team, there really aren't any egos and it's our process, it's about us. And so there's not pressure on one person because we're doing this together. Yeah, there's one word I didn't use back a minute ago and that word is fun. Is this fun? It really is fun because this is what we all love to do. This is what we love to do. We all have passion when we do and we love to do it and whether we're in here late at night watching players or discussing like this is, there's a lot of men in this building and men and women in this building that are really passionate about this and we're really excited about it, it's fun. Thank you. Thank you. All right, we're gonna follow up, is that client? It's here, I always find it kind of mind-boggling when you hear a player say, I was surprised to go to team A because team A never even interviewed me went through the process. In your experience in selecting players, have you always drafted somebody that you had interaction with, whether it was obviously back in the day in person or in Zoom? Yeah, we've had interaction with a lot of players and multiple interactions and we really take advantage of even being at pro days and being, because not being able to work players out or not being able to be in the buildings during the year, we really have to take advantage of every exposure that we could with the players. So I would say we spend a lot of time with these players and that's what you wanna do because you wanna take advantage of every exposure and every opportunity, not just with us, it can be us or it can be with other coaches or player engagement. You want everybody to touch the players and there's gonna be a lot of different opinions and but we wanna take advantage of as many exposures as possible with these players. All right, D-Led, your follow up. Yeah, I got my list of 18 questions down to three. So, can you evaluate the pass rush group? How was scouting the HBCUs? And I didn't really understand the Julio rule over the last couple of days.  Can you expound on the Julio situation in those other areas for us? You know, it would be a lot easier. D-Led, if you just kind of came in the building and started working for the team, you can be in our draft meetings and you can be a part of everything and we can discuss and we're meeting with the cap about the cap and you can sit in on those meetings and you wouldn't have to ask all these questions. Well, no, that's the beat writer's job is to ask a whole bunch of questions. There's some talented pass rushers in this draft and there's some different flavors and there's some raw players but sometimes at that position you always wanna add pressure players and so sometimes you'll have players that might not have the production or might not have reached their ceiling at this point but you have to, when you're looking at pressure players you have to value that because if you can find the right pressure player you wanna take advantage of and I would say there's some good ones in this class. Obviously, HBCU, we evaluate every prospect, every player, we're in every school. Again, that's where our scouts doing excellent job. They make sure they're gonna turn over every stone and we have connections and resources everywhere and so we're gonna dig into every player. There's not gonna be a prospect that we don't know everything about and the last question was Julio. Yes. And yeah, and D-Led, I really don't wanna make this about Julio because we hold that player in high regard just like you guys do, just like everyone outside this building does and so we hold them in high regard. The answer to that is just pointing to the cap and pointing to the fact that when we'll answer calls on any players, when teams ask about players we have to answer those calls and we have to listen because we knew when we stepped into this we were gonna have to make some tough decisions because it's just the reality of it. That's where we are with the salary cap. So we have to make some difficult decisions. So we have to look at all the different options and all the different scenarios and so if someone calls about any player we have to discuss it and do us right for the team. That's what we're always gonna do but we hold that player in high regard. It's just, we have to look at every option and to get what we need to get. Jeff Schultz. Thank you. Jerry, first of all, for the record, it's a Jekyll Island hat and it's turquoise, not Carolina blue. Okay. I like the Carolina blue. I'm part of specifically on a player, Kyle Pitts. Everybody I've spoken to says he's gonna be great. There's no dispute about that. Even just being NFL draft and nobody knows, I'm not sure, but however, almost everybody or many think, wow, that's really high to take a tight end. Do you either of you have any reservations about taking a specific position at so early because of that? Look, Kyle Pitts, he is a special player and I would say, and there's a lot of players in this draft like this but he's also a special young man too. Just if you look at his makeup, even being only 20 years old, so he is a very talented player and we look at it like we have to evaluate all these players and we'll say what they are and have a vision for what they are and we'll determine when the right time is and we'll compare them to some other players but there are a lot of good players, Jeff, sitting right there at that spot. We're gonna be looking at a lot of very talented players and we just have to weigh it. So I wouldn't say you can or can't take a specific position at a certain point. I would just say we have to evaluate the demand and evaluate the skill sets and determine what's right for us. Michael Rothstein. Yeah, I have a couple of follow-ups and Terry, I know you don't wanna make this about Julio but it's obviously a fairly large deal. What would you need to hear to say, okay, I'm gonna actually make this move? Like what would you need to really hear or see to say, I feel comfortable doing this? Yeah, I don't wanna put a number on it or put a specific, it really is just a weighing process and again, I really don't wanna make it about him but I understand he has an expensive contract and any team can look at our cap situation and understand that we're gonna have to make some decisions but don't wanna make it about that player and what we would take for him or not because again, hold him in high regard and it's just, we'd accept calls on any player and then we just have to weigh it and do what's best for the organization. And just kind of follow on that, y'all restructured a whole bunch of players like you were saying players took some pay cuts. You didn't do that with Julio. Why did you decide not to do that with Julio and yet do it with other players? Well, we're trying to have some, you really don't want to, because it's not a good, when we restructure contracts and you're having more dead money down the road, those aren't decisions we wanna make. We have to make some of those decisions this year but we wanna have some balance with that because we want to, and this isn't gonna be an overnight fix with the cap. It's gonna take time but we wanna have a healthy cap at some point. So we can't just restructure every contract because it's just hurting us in future years. So we look at each situation and we determine how we're gonna move forward but we have to have some balance in that regard. Figures to one more and quick. I just wanna maybe drill down on that a little bit more. Why then did you not restructure who, what made when the decision to not restructure Julio when you did restructure Matt and Jake and some of the other guys? Like what made not doing that on Julio, what you wanted to do? And I got it, I know we keep talking about Julio but I don't wanna make this about one player and drill down into one player. It's just when we look at the scope of things and we look at the circumstances we're in, we make some decisions and there's a lot of variables in it and there's a lot of really smart people. I promise you, there's a lot of really smart people that we discussed it with and determine what to do and it's not over, we're still going through this process and but we wanna have balance and we wanna do things the right way and we're still, it's all fluid and it's all in process right now. Appreciate it, thank you. Thank you. Go to Tori McElhaney and her Lion King necklace. Thank you, everybody's talking about everybody's hats and I have been a great necklace on no one's hat anything. Really. So just to be clear, I'd really like this, I really wanna be clear on this. Are you guys waiting until the 49ers make their pick at number three before we really know anything about y'all's plans? Like in the next 24 hours, we're not just gonna wake up tomorrow morning. It's like, oh, the fast ones have made a decision. It's really gonna be about what the 49ers are doing at number three. So Tori, are you asking if we're gonna announce the pick before the first pick? I just wanna know if it breaks down some more. Possibly, because... I just wanna know if I'm gonna wake up in the morning and have a ton of stuff to do about trading down or anything. I just wanna make sure that we're clear that the Falcons, we won't know what they're doing until they're on the clock.  I mean, that's what drives this time of year and people make up things and they throw things out there to see what sticks. You know, just to fill airtime. Look, we have a contingency plan and a contingency plan and you're picking up four. If we're picking up one, sure. You could be dead set on what you're gonna take, but as you guys have all seen, I mean, things happen on draft night and we gotta be prepared for anything. So, and again, like you said, Terry mentioned when you're on the clock, who knows what kind of offer you're gonna get. You gotta weigh everything. So we promise you, and again, I don't wanna speak for Terry, it won't become either one of us and it's not true. So people can make up what they, I guess what we wanna make up now. Cool. And then one more for you, Arthur.  But as you've talked to Dean Pease, does he see in this class what he's looking for in terms of kind of changing the scheme around getting some guys in to fill in some holes? I would feel like there's really good players in all of this draft in multiple positions. I think that the easy things to focus on is the top of the draft and where they get excited and they put these narratives out there. This is a really great, you know, whatever year. They're gonna be really good players. Take him when I look back in this draft, third, fourth, fifth round. And whether that's the de-limin, there's gonna be some de-limin that's gonna emerge in this draft and we just hope we get the right one if we take that position for the Falcon. Because that's you just go look back history year after year. People get really excited about the first round, top 10, and then you look two years later, you're like, whoa, gosh, why don't you take this guy 38? You know, we have a 35th pick. That's a valuable pick. I mean, all these picks are valuable. So there's players, there's good players in here. And we gotta make nine picks at least. And then who knows how it shakes out, but we feel good about adding good football players from this draft. Awesome, thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Kelsey Conaway. Hey, I just have one more quick run for Arthur. How's it been working with that in the first couple of weeks that you've been able to meet together virtually? It's been good. We've had really good virtual meetings, not just with Matt, but with an entire team. It's been fun, you know, is just getting to know these guys, then getting to know us as a coaching staff and trying to earn, you know, develop these relationships, earn the trust both ways. And that's been great. And all the guys that have been participating in the virtual setting have been really good. You know, we're in year one and it's good to get to know each other to that setting. Jarvis Davis, follow up. Terry, Arthur mentioned earlier about, you know, filling out the roster in the mid to late rounds, but how important to you is it to hit on those players and find value in those mid to late rounds? Yeah, good question. And it's about, it's really about having clear visions. So because it's easy to say this is a developmental player, but the author needs to, when he sets his inactive and sets, if you're here, you have to be contributing to this team in some way. So if you're a developmental, say defensive back or linebacker, you have to have a special teams value. You have to do something in the kicking game for more keys and hofs. So you have to, so we have to have clear visions for every player we bring in this building of how they're gonna be successful so that we can go through that process of getting everything they need to be successful. So yeah, it's important. The players we bring in, whether it's mid rounds, late rounds, undrafted free agencies, we wanna have clear visions for how they're gonna help this football team, not just throughout the week, but on Sundays. And coach, being there, a former office of lineman, what has been your assessment of the guys on the front since you've been here? Yeah, we've just been in the virtual meetings. These guys have been great. We feel like we got some good young players that are here, that are on our roster and that can help us now.  And so we're excited to work with those and we'll see what other pieces we can add throughout the weekend and throughout this offseason. They've been great. All right, we got two more follow-ups, close it up. Dila followed by Zach Klein. Real quick, for coach Arthur, you talked about the opt-outs earlier, how you doing kind of a floating schedule? I mean, you used to get, you would have got two mini camps, rookie mini camp, and extra time in the good old days, but now I've got just the camp and some video stuff. How are you gonna float that schedule for you? Get everybody ready and so forth.  You know, we're in a, it's voluntary anyways. So. You used to be voluntary mandatory, but. Sure, but once they changed the CBA in 2011, these are kind of the, spending offseason schedules are a pretty standard issue with the nine weeks. So, I mean, that's what the parameters are, and we're gonna work with the rules that the, everybody out, the other 31 teams are working with and the guys that are here that come into the virtual meetings, we're gonna coach them. And then whenever they decide whatever phases we go to and players get on the field, we'll work with the guys that show up, it's voluntary. And we, and everybody's different. So when you got vets that know how to get themselves ready to play and this, I don't think anything's gonna change in terms of they'll be evaluated. Who's gonna help us in the 21 season?  Finally, I think we just wrap it up on this Terry. I got a group chat going with every media member on this chat. All our final mock drafts are due at 11 o'clock. All the first three picks are locked in. So who should we pencil in at four? That's good because, you know, Jeff, Jeff also, he has such a unique way. Jeff asked the same question like eight different ways. I'll be, look, I'd love to look at all your mock drafts. I think that'd be fun. Good luck coach. Thanks. Thanks guys. Thanks y'all. Thank you. All right, thanks.