Hello, this is David Digger Hernandez and you're watching Spirit Church here on the EncounterTV network. What was it that caused the early church to rise? What is it that causes the martyr to lay down his life and say, Jesus is Lord? This power, this unstoppable force is the power of the Holy Spirit and this same power was active in the life of Jesus, who is our ultimate example on how to surrender to the Holy Spirit.  But first, Stephen Moctezuma is here with me. He's going to lead you to some very anointed worship and then we're getting right into this message here is Stephen Moctezuma. Holy Spirit is the key to the empowered Christian life. The power of the Holy Spirit is the key to the miraculous, but the key to the power of the Holy Spirit is the presence of the Holy Spirit. There is no formula that you can apply, no method that you can enact. There is no man-made way of causing the power of God to be cultivated in our lives. It's simply the presence of the Holy Spirit that brings about his power and we have no greater example of this than Jesus himself who allowed the power of the Holy Spirit to work in him and around him. Today, sadly, many Christian ministries and many churches are shying away from the power of the Holy Spirit because they imagine that the Holy Spirit is some problem or is something that gives them bad PR. And because they don't want to look strange, because they don't want to be mocked, because they don't want to turn people off to the gospel as they would say, they shy away from the power of the Holy Spirit, embarrassed at the very thing that is the foundation of the church. He knows how to build the church better than the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit's power should be welcomed in our lives and in our ministries to work in that way which only God can work. So, the Holy Spirit's ministry, as we will see right now, was active in the life of Jesus and Jesus, of course, is our example. He's our standard. He's the one we want to emulate. Jesus first and foremost was conceived in the power of the Holy Spirit. Second Matthew chapter 1 verse 18 where the Bible says, now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise, when as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Now don't let that terminology throw you off, Holy Ghost, that word ghost is just an older translation's word for spirit, it means the same thing and don't worry about the conspiracy theorists who would tell you otherwise. But the Bible makes a very powerful statement here and it tells us that the Holy Spirit was the one who caused the conception of Christ. The Holy Spirit was the one who miraculously brought about the body of the Lord. Now I want you to really think about that. We're talking about the word, the incomprehensible God, eternal and eternity himself placed in a body. The Holy Spirit opened this impossibly tiny door and through it the Creator stepped into His creation, that's true power, that He could take the incomprehensible God, all His knowledge, all His power, all His love, every aspect of His nature and form it to this seed. His work was so detailed, so precise, so perfect that the Bible says in John chapter 14 verse 9, Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? He that hath seen me hath seen the Father, and how saith thou then show us the Father. In other words the work of the Holy Spirit was so complete, so full, that Jesus was able to say if you've seen me you've seen the Father. That was the power of the Holy Ghost who caused the conception of Christ. Now the Scripture declares in Colossians chapter 2 verse 9, for in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. The Holy Spirit took the fullness of the Trinity, the Godhead, and put that into a body. What a tremendous thing He did, and sometimes I think we overlook these miracles that the Holy Spirit performed, but here we see my main point, the Holy Spirit was the one who caused Christ to be conceived. Jesus Christ was born of the power of the Holy Spirit. That's the work of the Holy Spirit. That's the mystery of the Incarnation, that Jesus was truly God and truly man, and here I must interject this point. At no point in his life did Jesus cease to be God. Jesus was, is, and will always be God. The word was, is, and will always be God. So I want to make that point very clearly right here right now so that there's no misunderstanding about what I'm about to say. Jesus was divine, Jesus is divine, Jesus always will be divine. He is God, and there was never a moment in Jesus' life where He wasn't God. But the Bible says here in Philippians chapter 2, in verses 6 through 8, though He was God, He did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. Instead, He gave up His divine privileges. He took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When He appeared in human form, He humbled Himself in obedience to God and died a criminal's death on a cross. So Jesus was man in nature but God in identity. He did humble Himself and He chose to limit His own power. I think of Luke chapter 2 verse 52 where the Bible tells us that Jesus grew in wisdom and stature in favor with God and with man. Now I want you to think about what the scripture says there. Jesus grew in wisdom and stature in favor with God and in favor with man. Jesus grew in wisdom. The word grew in wisdom. God grew in wisdom. How does God grow in wisdom? In stature, that's talking about His physical body. In favor with God and with man. How does God grow in favor with God? My point here isn't that Jesus wasn't God. My point is, of course, Jesus is God. Jesus was God. Jesus never ceased to be God. But here we see that Jesus Himself limited His power, limited His ability. He chose to do this for the sake of His purpose.   Jesus chose to strip Himself of these certain abilities. So where did His power come from? Well, Jesus received His power from the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit rested on Jesus at the beginning of His ministry. Matthew chapter 3 verse 16 says, After His baptism as Jesus came up out of the water, the heavens were open, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and settling on Him. Also, Isaiah the prophet tells us that the Holy Spirit was the one resting on Jesus. Isaiah chapter 11 verses 1 through 2 say, Then a shoot will spring from the stem of Jesse, and a branch from his roots will bear fruit. The Spirit of the Lord will rest on Him. The Spirit of wisdom and understanding. The Spirit of counsel and strength. The Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord. The Holy Spirit, in fact, enabled Jesus to do many things. In Isaiah chapter 61 verse 1 the Bible says, The Spirit of the sovereign Lord is upon me. For the Lord has anointed me to bring good news to the poor. He has sent me to comfort the broken hearted and to proclaim that captives will be released and prisoners will be freed. Jesus even cast out demons by the power of the Holy Spirit. He says it himself here in Matthew chapter 12 verse 28. But if I am casting out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has arrived among you.  Acts chapter 10 verse 38 says, How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power, who went about doing good and healing all that were oppressed to the devil, for God was with him. In Isaiah chapter 61 verse 1 we read that Jesus even preached by the power of the Holy Spirit. Furthermore, and this one is very interesting, Jesus was even resurrected by the power of the Holy Spirit. Romans chapter 1 verse 4 says, And he was shown to be the Son of God when he was raised from the dead by the power of the Holy Spirit. He is Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans chapter 8 verse 11 says, The Spirit of God who raised Jesus from the dead. The Holy Spirit was the one who did this, lives in you. Hebrews chapter 5 verse 7. Well, Jesus was here on earth. He offered prayers and pleadings with the loud crying tears to the one who could rescue him from death. And God heard his prayers because of his deep reverence for God. Now think about the trust that Jesus had to place in the person of the Holy Spirit. I want to paint for you a picture. The Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit had never before had their fellowship broken. And even though time does not apply to them, this is the best way I can word it, for all of time they had never been separated. They lived in a continual state of being in unity. But when Jesus died on that cross, he said, My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? And into your hands, I commit my spirit. Both the Spirit and the Father turned from him, left him, abandoned him. Jesus alone on the cross experiencing death, God allowing himself to be taken by the grave.  Now, this is interesting to me because the Holy Spirit was the one who rescued Jesus from that death. He was the one who raised him from the dead. So Jesus, having chosen to abandon the power to raise himself, took a trust fall backward into the grave and trusted that the Holy Spirit would catch him. That's trust. That's surrender. That's reliance. If Jesus trusted the Holy Spirit, how much more should we? If Jesus needed the Holy Spirit, how much more do we? It's perfectly Biblical to say that because Jesus chose to lay down his power, had it not been for the power of the Holy Spirit, he would not have been able to perform one miracle, cast out one demon, heal one sick person or rise from the dead. We just read in the Scripture that was all the power of the Holy Ghost. Now, we read an interesting verse in Romans 8 verse 11 where the Bible says, the same Spirit who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you. So that same power rests on you. We need to be more supernaturally minded. We think too naturally. Now, the Holy Spirit is not a reward for the super spiritual. If ever there was such a group, the Holy Spirit is the only chance that we have that being spiritual. This is what Jesus said in Matthew chapter 10 verse 8, heal the sick, raise the dead, cure those with leprosy, and cast out demons. Give as freely as you have received. Matthew chapter 28 verses 18 through 20 say, Jesus came and told his disciples, I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth, therefore go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands I have given you and be sure of this, I am with you always even to the end of the age. Here we see clearly in the book of Matthew that Jesus is commissioning us, he's telling us go, and when he tells us to go, he sends us with the power of the Holy Spirit, the same power which he used. Now in Mark chapter 16 beginning at verse 17, the scripture says this, and these signs shall follow them that believe. In my name they shall cast out devils. They shall speak with new tongues. They shall take up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing it shall not hurt them. Taking up serpents is talking about authority over the demonic and drinking any deadly thing is not, this is not an encouragement to go and drink poison. This is just a description of divine protection that comes on the life of those who believe. They shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. So then, after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth and preached everywhere. The Lord working with them and confirming their word with signs following. Now here the Bible says these signs shall follow who? Them that believe. Believe what? The message that the disciples preached. He wasn't saying and these disciples shall lay hands on the sick. He said these signs shall follow those who believe. Well do you believe? Well then these signs shall follow you. When you live in the power of the Holy Spirit, you don't have to go following signs, signs will follow you. When you live in the power of the Holy Spirit, you don't have to search for an atmosphere, you become an atmosphere, you become heaven on earth, you become answered prayer in the earth. God's will in action. That's your life when the power of the Holy Spirit gets ahold of you. A single moment spent in the presence of the Holy Spirit can transform your life. But a life spent in the presence of the Holy Spirit can transform the nations of the world. So the Bible says these signs shall follow them who? Believe. Now the Lord tells them I'm going to be with you always and then he goes up, he ascends, and the Bible tells us the Lord working with them and confirming the word with signs following. How was he working with them? He was working with them by the power of the Holy Ghost. John chapter 14 verse 12, Jesus says, I tell you the truth. Anyone who believes in me will do the same works I have done and even greater works because I'm going to be with the Father. Now I don't know what these greater works are. I don't know if Jesus was talking about a greater level of miracles. I don't know if Jesus was talking about a more widespread reach or a more widespread impact. I don't know if Jesus was talking about something completely different than that. But I do know that we are to do what he did and there's something to be added to what we're doing because of the power of the Holy Spirit. I personally believe that this greater work is preaching the gospel as someone who was saved by the gospel. That's one thought, but I'm not dogmatic on that. The main point here, you shall do the same works I have done. How is that done? He said, because I'm going to be with the Father. Why does that matter? Because I'm going to be with the Father. Well, John chapter 16 verse 7 says, But in fact, it is best for you that I go away. Because if I don't, the advocate won't come.  In essence, Jesus is saying these greater works you're going to be able to do because I'm going away to my Father and sending the Holy Spirit. The ministry of the Holy Spirit was never meant to finish with Jesus. The word became flesh. That flesh might become the word. Everything that the Holy Spirit anointed Jesus to do while he was here on the earth, the Holy Spirit continues to do in and through you. That's the power of the Holy Spirit. The same power which rested on Christ himself. And that's it for the lesson. I want to pray with you now. I want to ask a fresh touch of God's power to come on your life. That you might do the things that Jesus did. So Father, in the name of Jesus, I lift that one now asking for your power. And I pray in the name of Jesus that they would be endued with power from on high.  Cause them, Lord, to be stirred by the Holy One. Cause them, Lord, to be stirred by your Spirit. And I pray, Lord, that a fresh touch of your power would come on them now. Cause them to do greater works in the name of Jesus, we pray. I want you to say it because you believe it. Say amen. That is it. As I said for the lesson, I want to welcome now the new members of Spirit Church. There you are up on the screen. We love you. We are praying for you. I always say that because I always sincerely mean it. If you like information on how you can join the Spirit family, go to davidhernandezministries.com slash spirit church.  You'll get a free weekly teaching fresh from heaven every single week to your inbox. Also, Steve and Mark the Zuma will have a new worship cover for you. And the best part, you can reply to that email for prayer support from our ministry staff. Join the Spirit family today. Again, davidhernandezministries.com slash Spirit Church. I want to read your comments now. And again, this is a series that I'm doing. This is part three, The Power of the Holy Spirit. And the first lesson was the person of the Holy Spirit. The second lesson was the nature of the Holy Spirit. And this lesson was the power of the Holy Spirit. Now, last week, I taught on the nature of the Holy Spirit. There's a difference between knowing someone's actions and knowing someone's nature. And I want to talk to you about that difference. So be sure to go back and watch part two, The Nature of the Holy Spirit. And while you're at it, be sure to also subscribe to this channel. Make sure you click the notification bell if you're watching on YouTube so that you can receive the notifications of when we release content. So that's where these comments are from from The Nature of the Holy Spirit. And if you'd like me to potentially read your comments next week, then go ahead and leave a comment in the comment section right now. Again, the comments from The Nature of the Holy Spirit. Al Solar writes, This is my church. I receive every message with clarity. 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Hello, David Diger Hernandez here, and you are watching Spirit Church on the Encounter TV Network. Almost everywhere he goes, the Holy Spirit is rejected. Even in many churches around the world, the Holy Spirit is not welcomed. So, I want to teach you how to welcome the Holy Spirit in your life. But first, Stephen Mock the Zuma is here with me. He's going to lead you in some very anointed worship. This time it's a little different. He's doing an instrumental worship song. So, just prepare your heart, worship the Lord as Stephen Mock the Zuma leads you in this anointed music. I want to show you something interesting that I saw in the scripture. Now, the context here is that Jesus is driving multiple demons out of a man. And the demons ask for permission to be cast into a herd of pigs. And this is where the story picks up. Mark chapter 5 verse number 13 says, So Jesus gave them permission. The evil spirits came out of the man and entered the pigs. And the entire herd of about 2,000 pigs plunged down the steep hillside into the lake and drowned in the water. The herdsmen fled to the nearby town in the surrounding countryside, spreading the news as they ran. People rushed out to see what had happened. Verse 15 says, And they saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons. He was sitting there fully clothed and perfectly sane and they were all afraid. Then those who had seen what happened told the others about the demon possessed man and the pigs. Verse 17 says, And the crowd began pleading with Jesus to go away and leave them alone. Now, I found this interesting because here we see that Jesus is delivering a man who had been tormented by demonic beings for many years. He had gone insane because of the demonic torment. So these people, instead of focusing on the miracle that Jesus had performed, became preoccupied with the fact that 2,000 pigs had died. Now, of course, that would upset the economy. Of course, that would be bad for business to the person who owned the pigs. But still, these people did not recognize who they had with them. All they focused on was the liability or what they perceived as the liability. And so they began to plead with Jesus, please go away from us. Imagine that. Seeing a miracle, someone delivered from a demonic being and all of a sudden you're filled with this fear of the one who set the man free. So this is what happens and the people say, Jesus, please get out of here, please go.  Sometimes the miraculous will make you uncomfortable. Sometimes the supernatural will put you in a place that is not familiar to you. So as Jesus was getting into the boat, the man who had been demon possessed begs to go with him. But Jesus said, No, go home to your family and tell them everything the Lord has done for you and how merciful he has been. So the man started off to visit the 10 towns of that region and began to proclaim the great things Jesus had done for him. And everyone was amazed at what he told them. So on one side of the lake, we see people saying, Jesus, please leave. We don't want you here. And now we see what happens when Jesus went to the other side of the lake. Verse 21, Jesus got into the boat again and went back to the other side of the lake where a large crowd gathered around him on the shore. So on one side, Jesus is pushed away. On the other side, they're waiting for him. Now I want to read a portion of Scripture to you found in Acts chapter 16. And then I'm going to make my point. Acts chapter 16 verse 7 says, Then coming to the borders of Mycia, they headed north for the province of Bethany. But again, the Spirit of Jesus did not allow them to go there. Now here I want you to recognize that the Scripture refers to the Holy Spirit as the Spirit of Jesus. And I want to be perfectly clear. I believe in the Trinity. I believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. I believe that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are all distinct from one another. And I believe that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are each equally divine. So I believe that God is three and one, the Trinity. But here the Scripture is focusing more on the fact that they are one. So just because I'm focusing on the oneness of the Spirit of God and Jesus Himself and the Father does not mean that I don't believe in the Trinity. So having said that, I want to tell you this truth. The Holy Spirit truly is the continuation of Jesus Himself here in the earth. Everything that Jesus was anointed to do while here physically on the earth, the Holy Spirit continues to do for and through you. I'm going to say that again. Everything that Jesus was anointed to do while here physically on the earth, the Holy Spirit continues to do for and through you. So here's my point. Just as people rejected Jesus, so people today reject the Holy Spirit. Just as people welcomed Jesus, so people today welcome the Holy Spirit and with the same results. So here's the question. How do I welcome the Holy Spirit? What must I do to make the Holy Spirit feel at home in me? He can be welcomed anywhere. So how do we make room for him? How do we acknowledge his presence? How do we say to the Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit, abide with me? Holy Spirit, everywhere else you go, I know you're most likely rejected.  And that's a powerful way to live. So I want to show you how to do it. And these are things you can actually begin to do today. As soon as you hear the truths, you can immediately apply these truths and see the work of the Holy Spirit begin to intensify in your life. So number one, consider his likes and dislikes. Ephesians chapter 4 verse 30 says, Remember, he has identified you as his own, guaranteeing that you will be saved on the day of redemption. Here, the scripture is telling us not to grieve the Holy Spirit. In other words, don't hurt him. Don't offend him. The Holy Spirit has feelings. The Holy Spirit is a person. Now, here's what's interesting to me. The Holy Spirit has likes and dislikes. The Holy Spirit has preferences. There are things that make him feel uncomfortable. I don't know if you've ever gone to somebody's house where nobody knew you or you've gone to a social gathering where you had no idea who anybody was. Or perhaps you found yourself in a situation that made you uncomfortable. Maybe as a believer, you went to a family gathering and they began to drink or they began to smoke or they began to do drugs and you felt uncomfortable being there. Well, in the same way, many of the things that we do, many of the things that we think, many of the things that we say make the Holy Spirit uncomfortable. When you're listening to music, when you're watching a TV show or a movie, when you're reading something, ask yourself, is this something that would offend the Holy Spirit? I don't want to put anything on my TV screen that reminds the Holy Spirit of things that break his heart. Now, I know this is not necessarily a standard that every believer thinks they should follow. And look, I'm not here to put my convictions on you. I'm here to simply tell you about the nature of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit has likes and dislikes. The Holy Spirit has preferences. You've often heard it said, well, that's your conviction. This is my conviction. Now, wait a minute. What about the Holy Spirit's conviction? Because your conviction and my conviction don't really matter, do they? Not when we're trying to live a life that's welcoming to the Holy Spirit. So am I saying you'll lose your salvation? No, that's not what I'm saying. But I am saying that we as believers should want to make the Holy Spirit feel as welcome as possible in every situation. And that has to do with the things we say. That has to do with the things we think. That has to do with the places we go. That has to do with all of the actions that we take in life. The atmosphere that we create, the Holy Spirit has likes and he has dislikes. Now, as I said to you earlier, the Holy Spirit can really be welcomed anywhere. I believe this to be true. So I have three stories I want to share with you. All of them take place in a car.  This first story has to do with the Holy Spirit's likes and dislikes. I was in the car. I received a phone call and on the other line was a minister. And so we began to talk and all of a sudden this minister began to talk negatively about another pastor that he and I both know. Now, this made me feel a little bit uncomfortable and I went along with the joking because I didn't really have a dislike of the pastor he was talking about. And I remember thinking, maybe you should say something. Maybe you should confront him. Maybe you should not go along with it. But I didn't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable. I thought it was harmless.  He was just sort of being negative, maybe complaining a little bit. So I made a couple of jokes, made light of it. And when I hung up with that minister, the Holy Spirit convicted me. The Holy Spirit convicted me because I didn't put a stop to the gossip. The Holy Spirit convicted me because I made light of the gossip. The Holy Spirit convicted me because I didn't defend my friend. And again, I didn't think anything of it, but the Holy Spirit did. And so as I'm driving, I felt the conviction of the Holy Spirit fill my car and I began to apologize. I said, I said, Holy Spirit, I am so sorry. I should have spoken up. I shouldn't have participated by making light of it. The Holy Spirit was grieved. He did not like that. After I repented, after I apologized, I again felt that sweet presence that he likes to fill the atmosphere with. But that's number one, consider his likes and dislikes. Number two, consider his presence. This has more to do with being aware that he's there with you constantly. John chapter 14 verse 16 says, and this is Jesus speaking, and I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate who will never leave you. The Holy Spirit never leaves you. Another car ride story, Steve and I and Mr. Timothy Lay, who works behind the cameras and is the director of Encounter TV and our keyboard player, we're all ministering in Chicago. And you know, I like to prepare for services before I go and preach at services.    I don't care about you maneuvering or having to get in the fast lane. I said, just be calm, get me there. There's no rush. And I tell them a good driver to me is someone who goes to speed limit. So that's just what I tell every driver. So I get into this Uber drivers car. We all get in. We have all our equipment and everything. And this lady is playing some music that is not necessarily conducive to an atmosphere that you want to be in before ministering at a service. Mind you, she's driving us directly to the service. And so I remember I was about to tell her to change the station. I was going to say, hey, can you change it? And I was going to give her my whole speech about how she's supposed to drive. And the Holy Spirit spoke to me and he told me to create my own atmosphere.  I don't know what anybody else in the car was talking about. I didn't even notice that they had been driving crazy. All I knew is that I had my headphones on. I had the worship music playing. I was reading the word and I got lost in the presence of the Holy Spirit. I could feel the car shaking this way and that way. I could I could hear faintly in the background car horns going off and I could feel the brakes being pushed very harshly and I still was raptured in the presence of the Holy Spirit. Why? Because I considered his presence. I was aware of his nearness. You would be amazed at how many experiences with the Holy Spirit you will have and how much more intense the power of God will be upon your life if you simply slowed the pace of your mind, slowed the pace of the inner life and you began to become aware of the presence of the Holy Spirit. So number one, consider his likes and dislikes. This is not just holiness I'm talking about. I'm talking about his likes and his dislikes. Number two, consider his presence or be aware of his presence. Number three, consider his voice. Romans chapter 8 verse 14 says, for all who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God. You know, this is another story where we were on our way to minister at a church service and this was a Sunday morning church service and Mr. Mark Azuma and I were picked up from the hotel and they were driving us to the church. It was very early in the morning.  I don't drink coffee because I don't like the way it makes me feel and we're driving and the Holy Spirit told me to ask the driver who was a lady to ask her how she was doing but ask it in a way that was sincere. I didn't think anything of it but I knew it was the voice of the Holy Spirit. So I said her name and I said, is everything okay? It seems like something's on your mind. And she began to weep. As she told Stephen and I about all of the trouble that her family was facing and it was a very sad thing to hear but suddenly there was this this unction that I felt rise within me and the Holy Spirit told me instead of having her drive you to the church have her drive you to her home. Go in and pray with her family. And I thought, Lord, there's a church service. There's hundreds of people waiting for us. That service was packed. They told us it was it was the most crowded Sunday morning in the history of the church. They had people outside who could not get in. People were lined up hours before it even started and they told us that there was much expectancy. There was much anticipation. But the Holy Spirit spoke to me.  We arrived at the home. We could hear weeping from the driveway as we walked in. We walked in and we found this young man in his room. He's he's sitting on the floor. He's holding his knees and he is just weeping. The family had gone through some trouble. I won't give you personal details, but they had gone through some trouble, tragedy. And instead of coming to church, he was at home weeping. Steve and I go into his room. I kneel down. I begin to pray with him. We begin to minister to the family at this time. Worship is going on at the other place. The church service had already begun, but Jesus leaves the 99 to go after the one. That's what the Holy Spirit told us to do. So we went. We prayed with the family. They actually left the house and came to church with us to hear the ministry. And that night we were told that for the first time in a very long time, the family had dinner together. The family laughed together. The family had conversations. The peace of God filled their home. Why? Because I considered the voice of the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit was so kind as to speak to me in a car while I was on my way to minister at a church service. But he was welcome to move in my life. The presence was there. I didn't need to go to the church service. He went with me to the house. Why? Because he's welcomed around me. How? Because I consider his voice. You know, sensitivity to the voice of the Holy Spirit isn't just about how clearly you hear him. It's about how quickly you respond. Delay is disobedience. What is the Holy Spirit speaking to you? Are you considering his voice? Does the Holy Spirit feel at home in you? Does he feel welcomed near you? The things you do, the things you say, the things you think, do they make him feel uncomfortable? Or is he pleased with those things? When you have the presence of the Holy Spirit, you're not like the people on the side of the lake that said, go away from us. You say, Lord, don't leave. Please stay. You say, Holy Spirit, you are welcome here. Holy Spirit, this is your home. Holy Spirit, abide with me. Well, that is it for the lesson. I want to pray with you now. I want to pray that God would help you do these things, that he would help you to consider the likes and the dislikes of the Spirit, that he would help you to consider his presence and consider his voice. So let's pray. Father, in the name of Jesus, I stretch my hands forward in faith. I am asking you, Lord, to touch your people and fill them with fresh power from heaven. Help us to be sensitive to your voice. To be obedient to your voice. Help us to be aware constantly the fact that you abide with us 24 seven every moment of every day. And Holy Spirit, please speak to us. Remind us. Tell us of your likes and your dislikes. We want to know you more that we might please you and live lives for your glory in the name of Jesus. I want you to say it because you believe it. Say amen. Well, again, that's it for the lesson. I want to welcome now the new members of Spirit Church. There you are up on the screen. We love you and we are praying for you. I always say that because I always mean it. If you like information on how you can join the Spirit family, go to davidhernanisministries.com slash Spirit Church. Listen, when you join the Spirit family, you get a brand new teaching from me every single week, a brand new worship cover from Stephen Mock the Zuma that comes to your email inbox every single Sunday. And the best part, you can reply to that email for prayer support from our ministry staff. Join the Spirit family today. Now over 8,000 members. So go ahead and do that, davidhernanisministries.com slash Spirit Church. Now to your comments. And these comments are from last week's teaching, Waiting on the Holy Spirit. If you haven't watched that one, go and watch that one. I talk about how the Holy Spirit takes you to different levels of influence as you wait upon Him. So if you're someone who's in ministry and you're saying I want this thing to grow, go watch it. I talked about the different levels of ministry and then how the Holy Spirit helps you through those levels as you learn to wait on Him. But again, these are the comments from that lesson. And if you'd like me to potentially read your comment next week, then go ahead and leave your comment in the comment section now. Jacob Isaac writes, This is so, so good, my dear brother and evangelist, David. Thank you. I've been starting to study on the Holy Spirit and it is such perfect timing to see this. John Allen writes, I am still excited that I got a chance to meet David Hernandez and Stephen Mockezuma in Chicago, Illinois. We're excited that we got to meet you too. And we would love to meet you as well watching. If you'd like to know where we're going to be next, go to davidhernandezministries.com slash events that's updated regularly. Sarah W writes, I just have to say that this ministry is changing my life. I've watched a couple of your YouTube videos now and wow, the spirit is moving. Praise Abba, our Father in Heaven. Well, Sarah, we like to say this is the Holy Spirit's channel. So His power is free to move however He wishes. And the final commenter, Martha Alvarado writes, Thank God for this wonderful message. I was at your service in Chicago and there were two things that touched my heart in a very special way. Number one was that salvation message and how many souls it saved that night. Number two was when you said the Holy Spirit is rejected everywhere He goes. That will forever be engraved in my heart. I pray that God will continue to move through your ministry with even greater influence and continue to give your team and family strength. God bless. Well, thank you, Martha, for writing into us. We were glad that you were there in Chicago. And yes, the salvation message was preached. That's an emphasis of this ministry. We preach the salvation message, but we also preach the power of the Holy Spirit. And this is something that's missing today. Look, I'm not saying nobody's doing it. I'm just saying it's very rare that you hear people preaching about sin, heaven, hell, the cross, repentance, the gospel. You don't hear it all that often. So this is why this ministry is needed now more than ever. If you're tired of seeing the culture shift to the darkness, if you're tired of seeing that takeover and it seems like it's impossible that any difference be made, then this is how you get involved. You and me together standing for the gospel, saying to the world, Jesus is Lord. We proclaim that message boldly. We proclaim that message without apology. We proclaim that message with love and with power. Help me do it. Don't say no to the Holy Spirit. I believe the Holy Spirit is speaking to your heart right now. You know that there's a connection with this ministry. You feel something unique. You've been blessed by the teachings. You've been blessed by the books or maybe you've come to the events and you know that God is linking us.  Don't grieve him like that. Just say, Holy Spirit, I trust you and I am going to step out and I'm going to support that ministry. So here's what I want to challenge you to do. Give a one-time gift. Some of you watching, you could sew $1,000 into this ministry. Some of you watching could sew $100 into this ministry. Some of you watching could sew $5, $10, $15, $25 into this ministry. That's all going to the gospel. That's all going to win souls. They need to hear this message. We need to spread it as far as it can go. So give a one-time gift right now or become my monthly partner. If you will partner with me for $30 or more a month, I will send you either carriers of the glory encountering the Holy Spirit in every book of the Bible or 25 truths about demons and spiritual warfare. That will be my thank you gift to you and initiation gift. I'll sign it, send it off to you and say thank you for supporting us. Look, we want to keep this content free. We want to keep the events free. We want to keep everything free. This is how we do it, by people like you. Obeying the voice of the Holy Spirit and supporting this ministry. So here's what you're going to do. Soon as this video is done, you're going to go to davidhernandezministries.com slash donate or slash partner. Slash donate to give a one-time gift slash partner to sign up to become my partner. $30 monthly. Let's do this. Let's do this for Jesus. Let's continue to win souls and build believers with the gospel of Jesus Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit. We do that through events and media. It's simple. Get involved today. Push back on the darkness. We can make a difference. We're seeing it already. The events are becoming packed out with people ready to hear the gospel. This media is reaching millions. So jump on board. Let's join forces together. And with one voice proclaimed, there's only one way and his name is Jesus. Do that today, please. Partner with me and I know God will bless you for it. Obey his voice and he can be trusted. Well, that is it for this edition of Spirit Church on the Encounter TV Network. Until next time, remember, nothing is impossible with God.


What kind of world do I want to live in? I think about this question a lot. For our generation and for specifically my group of people, which is refugees, the circumstances might dismantle any vision of the future that we have. You're trying to rebuild, you're trying to make a future for yourself and then the climate-related disaster come and you start again.  The first step to understand is that we're all a part of it. None of us are going to be left out by the crisis. We're at a stage where if we don't act now, really there won't be very much left. There are generations that will never see certain things that we grew up seeing in real life. We have to start treating this like the emergency it is to achieve the 17 sustainable development goals. We have to go from an intention to a serious commitment. Business leaders really need to rethink how they conduct their business and invest in creating systems that are climate-friendly. The action I would like to see is accountability. Structures being put in place where countries aren't just asked to do something, but they're kept accountable to the decisions that they make. There has to be that strong collaboration between government, between corporations, between youth activists to drive change forward. The world I would want to live in is a world where imagining the future is not a privilege. I want to live in a world where people do not give up on hope. Hope that a positive change is possible. The fact that you're listening today means that you are willing to make a change. Good morning. I'm Nancy Brown. I'm Chief Executive Officer of the American Heart Association. And I also have the honor of serving as co-chairman of the World Economic Forum's Global Health Equity Network. It is such a great honor to be with you today and to be with our amazing panelists. To set the stage for today's discussion, I'd like to take a minute to define health equity, which means that everyone has a fair and just opportunity to be as healthy as possible. Fair and just means an equal opportunity for all, regardless of race, age, gender, caste, religion, sexual orientation, location, income, or disability status. And healthy is defined as a state of clinical, social, mental, and physical well-being influenced not just by healthcare, but also by social, economic, and environmental factors. And globally, we acknowledge the interconnectedness and inequitable distribution of health across and within countries. This is so important because health disparities across and within countries have been growing for decades because of unequal distribution of resources. The COVID-19 pandemic has exposed these inequities and threatens population health and economies. And we know that this is not sustainable. We have an opportunity to engage leaders in accelerating multi-stakeholder action towards achieving health equity. So today, we will discuss the urgent need for the private sector to prioritize investing in collaborative solutions that address health inequities. We'll highlight examples of how companies are aligning business practices with addressing upstream drivers of health, and we'll also identify actions that leaders from diverse industries and geographies are taking to advance health equity, both locally and globally. And we're going to start today with a panel discussion followed by breakout groups. Then we'll share insights from the breakout discussion and end with closing remarks. But let me start with a few housekeeping items. The panelists' opening remarks will be on the record and made available after the session. We invite forum members joining top link to stay on for the closed part of the session following the panel. Participants are welcome to submit their comments and questions, and the WEF team will follow up after the session to respond. Now let's get started with an introduction of our panel participants. First, I'm delighted to introduce Punit Renjen, who's the global CEO of Deloitte. Asif Saleh, who's the executive director of Building Resources Across Communities out of Bangladesh, or BRAC, and Dr. Ryan Notch, who is the CEO of Discovery Health. Welcome to each of you, we're so happy to have you here. As I mentioned, our discussion is about the urgent opportunities for the private sector to invest in collaborative solutions that address health inequities. So we're going to start by hearing from our panelists about how they're aligning business practices with population health and where the sector needs to go next to meaningfully reduce health inequities. So let me start with a pretty basic question. Asif, I'll see if I'll start with you. What does achieving global health equity mean to you personally as a leader, and why is this a priority to you? Thank you so much, Nancy. Great to be here. And no, I think essentially what COVID has shown us that equity is so much essential right now. I mean, if anything that is more pronounced than ever, that inequality from a health perspective is at its worst than ever, whether you call about vaccine inequity and to also just overall health infrastructure. Countries are suffering, and the frontier markets are suffering. And here's the irony why it's important. I think this is also a lesson from COVID that it's very clear that no one is safe until everyone is safe. I mean, this is something that we have learned at the very clear lesson that the world is so connected now that it's more important that we have at some semblance of equity across various frontiers. And I would say that it's from an organization which runs very successful, big-scale social enterprises. For private sectors, it's not about charity or corporate social responsibility only. I mean, this needs to be more strategic. This needs to be something that will actually also pay dividends as well. So I urge the private sector that to look at this market very carefully because there are people who are here who are even willing to pay for service, able to pay for service, but not being able to get the right service, affordable healthcare service at all. And essentially in various other areas, whether it's financial inclusion through getting products from rural artisans. BRAC has many examples where we have seen that doing good and good business does not have to be mutually exclusive. So it's just a matter of taking a strong interest and bringing in their best innovation and making it easily accessible within the local context and work with local partners to ensure that the service actually gets affordable and easier to access. Thank you. Thank you so much. Very inspiring comments. Ryan, what about you? What does achieving global health equity mean to you personally as a leader? And why is this a priority for you? Yeah, two parts to your question. I guess there's a personal part and a professional part. And I think starting from the professional, from the business point of view, we believe that the sense of impact, particularly in the markets where we operate is absolutely linked to the accessibility, affordability and equity of care. Our core purpose is about enhancing and protecting our customers' lives. And if we are to live that core purpose, we need to do that in a selfless way, in a way that ensures that in this interconnected world, there is equitable access and benefit that affects all populations that are so now interconnected. And as we've seen through COVID, the economic imperative linked to this healthcare access is undeniable. We know from studies that an extra year of longevity contributes an extra 4% to GDP in every population. And so the economic benefits at a societal level are completely undeniable. There's a clear business prerogative, which Asif was talking about as well, is that for those of us working in developing markets like Discovery here in South Africa, the ability to make the products more accessible to, in traditional speak, the lower base of the pyramid or the mass market has great commercial opportunity at the same time as meeting this social impact requirement. Our country, unfortunately, has the highest genie coefficient in the world, largely as a result of our political legacy. And as a result, we do see an inequity of access on a daily basis. And coming to the personal side of your question, as a healthcare practitioner, as a clinician, as a leader of healthcare systems, it is completely unacceptable to me to function in a society where if I fell and broke my leg today, I would have immediate access to some of the best care in the world. But somebody living two kilometers down the road from me, if they had the same injury, may receive a variable intermittent quality of care and certainly not with the same speed of access that we have. So there are these system benefits. There are commercial benefits to companies that can find the intersection of those system benefits. And on a personal level, as a healer, as a leader, and as a community member, we have a sense of responsibility and a sense of value to create in this interconnected world. Thank you, Ryan. That was very compelling. Really appreciate that. And as we transition to this next question, I have a slide that I want to show and it's an outline of a framework that Deloitte has developed for organizations and business leaders to think about how they can advance health equity across multiple interconnected levels. And if we could get that slide put out, please, thank you so much. So when you look at this slide, you will see questions and issues like does your workforce have benefits and services needed to be healthy? Are your company's products and services equitably generating health? Do your community investments support local health priorities? And how effective are you at collaborating with government and supply chain partners to create opportunities for health? This is a wonderful framework and very similar to a framework we've created at the American Heart Association through our CEO roundtable, where we're focused as well on driving health equity in the workplace, where we've created many tools for employers as well. And so as much as we can get these tools and best practices out globally in terms to all of our businesses, I think it will help in our journal toward health equity. So Puneet, let me start with you. This is a masterpiece of your organization. I know in collaboration with many, tell us more about this and tell us how Deloitte is advancing health equity along the spectrum and what is the most valuable thing you have learned? Well, first, it's great to be on the panel. Lancy, thank you for that question. I want to go back before I get to the graphic that you put up and thank you for profiling that to something that both Asif and Ryan talked about. Two points. One, Asif said, no one is safe unless all of us are safe. This virus doesn't discriminate and therefore for us, 345,000 professionals across the globe, it is really important that we take care of all of them and the communities that live and work in in an equitable way. I think the second thing that both Ryan, I think Ryan said it very eloquently, I'm not going to be able to paraphrase it right. Asif mentioned it as well, which is this is not a charity. This is certainly the right thing to do, but it is also the right business thing to do. The reason why we've created the Deloitte Health Equity Institute is because we want to do the right thing, but we also want to do the right business thing. Ryan mentioned being a purpose-led organization, Deloitte is a purpose-led organization, 345,000 individuals, our purpose is to make an impact that matters certainly for our clients, deliver value for them. For the people that we hire, train, mentor 345 of them, 50,000 a year that we hire, it's really important for us to create an impact for them, but importantly for the communities that we live and work in. And it's all those three together that allow us as an organization to be purpose-led to make an impact in the communities that we live and work in. And so let's talk about health equity. And I'll give you an example, 15% of the 345,000 professionals at Deloitte call India home. I'm from India, my mother 81 years old still lives in India. April and May, as you know, was the Delta variant wave in India. It was brutal. For us, from a health equity standpoint, it was imperative that we take care of our 345,000 individuals, but also work with them for the communities that we live and work in, or they live and work in. And one such example is what we did in the state of Haryana. We collaborated with the Public Health Foundation of India with the PGIMS, which is the top medical institute in that state, and with the government of Haryana to create a integrated program to address the crush on the hospitals. And we've seen this with the Delta wave, seen it in the United States. We certainly saw it in India. The lack of oxygen, people rushing to the hospitals, and the spread of rumors where people thought that if they were contracting COVID, it was a death sentence. Our quick research suggested that 90 to 94% of the patients could be treated at home through home care. And so the five integrated level program that we created was first, a command center. Second, leveraging virtual health, deputizing doctors and medical students to provide telehealth to the people that were convalescing at home. Leveraging the ASHA network, the midwife network, in the local rural communities, so that we could provide healthcare to them and they would not come to the main city hospitals and try and overwhelm those hospitals. The third is a three-level field hospital network where Deloitte provided oxygen concentrators so if somebody got sick, they could be moved to the field hospital. The interesting thing was, this was really providing primary healthcare in hard-to-reach communities in rural India where most of the cases were. We also hired advanced life-saving ambulances and in this state, popped them at each of the districts so that we could communicate very clearly that if you got sick, we would transport you to the main hospital. And then of course, clear communication around the disease, the disease management and the mitigating strategy and then we created a playbook. But it was a really wonderful exercise to try and collaborate with the government, with the Public Health Foundation and the medical community to provide primary healthcare in an equitable way for that state. We're now trying to do that across India, starting with the most backward districts. The outcomes were great. 50% reduction in mortality, 90% of the patients treated at home and now we're taking that program elsewhere in Africa. Brian, we're trying to pilot it in South Africa. We will do it in Southeast Asia. Great example of the private sector and the public sector working together to try and get healthcare equitably to a boss community. Wonderful. Wow, very comprehensive and thank you so much for that. I learned a lot by listening to you. Brian, what do you think as it relates to the Deloitte framework? Can you tell a little about how your organization is working across that spectrum and what is the most valuable thing you've learned? It's a very interesting framework. And as I'm thinking through it, it certainly stimulates kind of directional traction along this continuum that they talk about. I start at the organizational level and sorry to be repetitive, but as I said earlier, in my view, it all starts about a purpose. Our purpose is to enhance and protect our customers and our people's lives. We think that that actually begins with trying to change behavior and through behavior change to affect the social determinants of health, the lifestyle determinants of health, which ultimately is the preventative approach towards downstream illness and healthcare management. So our program is built around what we call shared value in healthcare insurance or in all of our products, wherein if we can change the behavior of our customers and of communities at large, get them to live healthier, exercise more frequently and eat healthier, there's a societal dividend for that, right? Of course, you have a healthier population and healthier individuals, but not only is there a societal dividend, to some of the points made earlier by Coonett particularly, there is also a company dividend from a health insurance perspective, you get less claims from healthier people, you produce a greater surplus. The surplus that you produce from that health insurance as a result of healthier lives, you can use to reinvest in incentivizing doctors to run preventative healthcare programs in rewarding individuals and communities to behave more healthily and giving them healthcare incentives. And so this creates what we would call a shared value life cycle. And so starting with the beginning of that Deloitte framework around how organizationally ready are you, I think your fundamental business model and the purpose need to converge around understanding what makes sustainable goals realistic in a healthcare perspective. Clearly then moving on to the next part of the Deloitte framework around an offering, your products need to create these incentives. In our world, we've created a product called Vitality, which is a wellbeing program. The healthier you stay on the Vitality program, the more we reward you with incentives. Took time for people to understand that a free flight or a free coffee, those sound like marketing gimmicks, but actually what they do is they deal with this hyperbolic discounting of one's healthcare status, where we all tend to believe that we're healthier today than we really are. We all tend to discount today's behaviors, not taking into effect into account the long-term impact of our behaviors today. So one wants to make those today's behaviors real and relevant through immediate incentives so that people understand it has this long-term impact. You're not wanting to talk too much, but stepping back from the framework, then just saying that if we ought to think through community needs, ultimately in my view, it all does begin as Deloitte points out with these organizational imperatives. And I hope in my description of how we think through that, it resonates and fits well into that Deloitte framework. Nancy, if I may, I'm sorry for interrupting, but if I may just amplify a point that Ryan made, it's a really important point, and it goes back to what Asif said, which is this is the right business thing to do. Ryan mentioned the fact, the impact that it has on your employees or your workforce. Let's take Deloitte as an example. Doing the right thing in India, the example that I gave you, not only impacted those 15% of 345,000 that live and work in India, 65,000 of them positively and their families, the brand impact that it had within the organization in India and beyond, and the brand impact that it had in the government and business community can't be bought. That is why this is not only the right thing to do, it is the right business thing to do. Yeah. Thank you so much for tying that up with a bow. That makes perfect sense. And Asif, let me come to you. How can leaders be more effective at leveraging their power and influence to advance health equity locally and globally? We've heard some commitments already today, but what do leaders need to commit to? No, I think as I was mentioning that the first thing is the intent and the purpose and the having the curiosity that this is a market that we need to go in and it is the right business thing to do. And as Punit said and as Ryan said, also from a purpose perspective, this is very, very important. And again, I think it will only happen when incentives are aligned. So leaders across all sectors need to understand each other's incentives. So no matter how much we aspire and we scream from the top of our lungs about health equity, the reality is at the end of the day, everyone is going to say that what's in it for me. So I think Punit articulated it very well that it's gonna make you look good in front of your shareholders, but at the same time, all your stakeholders as well, it's gonna, I think your business and brand, I think it's gonna be very important. So it's important for the leaders to really internalize it. And I will go back to just add to your previous point what Punit mentioned that there here is a role for a very big role for social organizations as well because where what happens is that, you have the public sector building infrastructures and you have the private sector also investing in other innovations and infrastructure, but the missing link is the linking with the community because at the end of the day, equity is not just about going to the healthcare, going to the healthcare provider and getting a good service. It's also about getting the right preventive advice as well. And that's where the linkage with the community and the role of the community healthcare workers come in. The Brax example in this case, I mean, there has been some fascinating partnerships in the last few months with Telco companies, with the government where when the government was getting phone calls from the, in the helpline about the COVID and people were frantically looking for information. We partnered with Telco companies as well and they had an agreement where they shared the data to identify the households where there might be potential COVID patients when then where our community healthcare workers went and provided preventive support so that they actually stay in their homes. And there has been many other examples like this. You probably have seen the mask example where we have partnered in changing behavior of people in wearing masks. The largest study happened in Bangladesh and in the countries like us where we have to constantly balance between saving lives and livelihoods. This is where behavior change aspect also comes in a big way where the role of community organization and social organizations comes really, really important. Nancy, if I may again, I'm not an expert like Asif or Ryan in this area, but over the last three months as I've worked in India and seen my mother actually contract COVID and recovered at home, I've read up a lot. And as Asif and Ryan hopefully will back me up, the investment in primary healthcare, particularly in rural communities across the world, but in India, Bangladesh, Africa has been woefully lacking. And that has led to this issue of inequitable access to healthcare. But the point that was being made around the private sector, what we learned in India is using telehealth as an example. It's a way to bridge that investment gap that has been over the last number of decades under invested in the public health and the primary healthcare network and therefore created this inequity. So the point I'm trying to make is that there is a real role for the private sector to play working with public entities and NGOs to try and make access better. And this, by the way, not only applies to India and Bangladesh, applies to rural communities in the United States as well. Well, that's wonderful. Oh, go ahead, Ryan. Would you permission my comment? Yes, of course. Yeah, I think that really resonates what Puneet just said. You know, we see certain trends that have accelerated. They were pre-COVID trends, but they've been accelerated by COVID-19 in healthcare globally. Two of those are digital connectedness and digital healthcare, led by telemedicine, but across a spectrum moving into a range of remote monitoring and support services and also, of course, remote care, care outside of traditional places of care. When you bring the two together in this health equity debate, I do believe the convergence of those trends allow unique and never before seen opportunities to expand health equity dramatically. When COVID-19's second wave or first wave of infection struck South Africa, we partnered with our local telecoms provider, Vodafone, here in South Africa to provide free access to virtual consultations, telemedicine consultations to any South African in the country who required a consultation during COVID-19. So while that was a corporate social initiative through Vodafone and ourselves to offer that to all South Africans, more meaningfully, I think it represents how simple and easy it is to expand access and to address this equity challenge that we face in the world of these modern fourth industrial revolution trends that are now eventually impacting healthcare. I guess as healthcare leaders, we've been frustrated for a while that as many other industries have digitized fast, our digital uptake has been a bit slower, but COVID has accelerated it. And we should capitalize on this for all the health equity benefits that emerge. Wonderful, thank you. Nancy, if I just can add one thing, I mean, absolutely adjust to that from real life examples in Bangladesh with our 40,000 healthcare workers who we very quickly upgraded their capacity, invested on them, made them COVID ready by providing sort of infrared thermometer, the oximeter and also a tab. They were not only collecting data that we were mining in terms of analyzing trends, they were also making the telemedicine accessible for all these patients from their homes. And we had thousands and thousands of coal. And it was very easy. We were building the plane as we were flying it. And that gives me a lot of hope that by investing on this network as well that you will actually get a lot bigger bang for buck in terms of return. Thank you. Same thing in India in terms of what we did. Yeah, Poonit, thank you. I'm going to, we're at the end of our time for our panel discussion, but I want to thank you Poonit, Ryan, and Asif for really a phenomenal discussion, a great overview of what you as individual leaders are doing and what your organizations are doing to assure that we even out access to health and well-being around the world. So thank you so much for that. And we're now going to transition to an informal Chatham House rule discussion and exchange on making an impact.