2021. Here we go. Thank you to everyone that watched the Hades video. I had a lot of fun making that, and I'm really excited to be here even though we have a little bit of a negative topic to talk about. A big, uh, bloomberg, which I can't even read because it's making me subscribe $2 a month or 300 a year to read this article. Thankfully Jason Shryer. Sorry if I'm pronouncing that wrong, Jayboy. Sorry if you hate being called Jayboy, Jayboy. Broke down some of the most important parts from the article. This is everything that went wrong with Cyberpunk 277. They interviewed a bunch of CD projects staff to get their opinion on what happened, and a lot of this now makes a lot of sense in the video I made, which by the way, if you haven't watched that video, probably watch that before this. I think it's safe to say that everyone did since it's one of my best performing videos on my channel ever, which thank you. I worked so hard on that video, and it's by far the biggest project I've ever done. The music video, writing that, coming up with the lyrics, singing it. Eric, my friend, helped me mix the whole thing. He played the music. That music video in itself took longer than one of my normal videos, and it was just three minutes in a 50-minute video. I was really proud of it, but worried about how it would perform, but also worried how people would perceive it because it's a big release that a lot of people were enjoying, and I was putting this video out there kind of, well, I was gonna say hating on it, but I really didn't. I really just showed the game for what it was. But anyway, this is kind of a follow-up to it. I want to go through all of this as positive as possible. You know, I don't want my first video of the year to be a poopy-smoopy negative one. We're just gonna read this, and then once we're done going through this, eye-opening experience, they actually have an apology video that I've watched, and I think that this is gonna be really interesting to watch together after we've read all of this. It's gonna hit differently than they intended. With that said, if you're new here, weird video for you to start on, but I'd appreciate a like. Subscribe if you want. Let's crack open it to start the year. This video is sponsored, by the way. Could be here. Could be later. Might be later. So Jason says, What went wrong with Cyberpunk 2077? Interviews with more than 20 current and former CD project staff paint a complex picture, unchecked ambition, technical woes, unrealistic deadlines, and above all, one belief. We made Witcher 3. It'll work out. Devs at CD Project said despite promises that Crunch would not be mandatory, they felt pressured to work overtime on and off for years. This goes into Crunch, which is essentially employees having to work overtime to meet the deadlines that the higher-ups set. And while the higher-ups did say on record publicly in tweets and everywhere online that there would not be mandatory Crunch, what that meant was other people had to pick up the slack for those that didn't want to Crunch. Nobody should have to work overtime. There were reports of people working 13-hour days for the entire week and then ended up quitting because they were too stressed out and they couldn't handle it. It seems like you could say to your management, I can't do Crunch. I don't want to work overtime when they'd be like, okay, it's not mandatory. But that means everyone else needs to pick up the slack because we've got to get this game out by December, which is essentially Crunch. That's like when my old job at Burger King told me they weren't going to fire me for taking a bottle of water before paying for it. But they would highly recommend I quit. I don't know if it's actually like that at all, but that's a true story. Veteran devs from other companies were shocked at CD Projekt Red's free-for-all production. One example, if someone needed a shader, they would make it with no pipeline in place to determine whether someone had already made one with the same function. When you're making a game, there's a lot of assets that are open to you. In this case, we're talking about shaders. Rather than have some kind of plan in place, they were just kind of left with a free-for-all mentality of if you need something, you've got to make it. So they were having to make things that they might have already had access to, but they didn't know. That takes a lot of time, a lot of extra time, days maybe. It goes back to the mismanagement that we talked about in my video, but also that you're going to see here. Anthem's developers talked about Bioware Magic, an unwavering belief that with hard enough work and Crunch, their games could come together. This is funny, actually, because I'm not funny. I thought it would be fun if I had a follow-up video where I just kind of looked at very disappointing games from the past. And so I've been looking at a lot of games, and a lot of Bioware's games ended up on that list, Mass Effect 3, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem. A thing I kept reading when I was looking up why these games failed so bad was that they only really went into full production in the last couple of years of the development cycle, and a lot of it came down to what they called Bioware Magic, the last like six months or so where the game would come together. And it seems like CD Projekt had a similar mentality of in the last few months, last six months, it'll come together, but it didn't, because that wasn't enough time. So it goes into a lot about the developers and what they went through, of course, like them only getting paid 400 a month after several years of working there. They upgraded to 700 a month, which is nothing for the job they're doing. And I do want to say that I titled my video CD Projekt Are All Liars. I did Aminar about that for the longest time. The reason why I went with it was because it rhymed mostly. Terrible excuse. Like I know not everyone there were liars, and I did say that in the video, and a lot of what they went through sounds awful, like absolutely horrible. And I want to reiterate one more time that I know not every dev or everyone that worked on the game lied. I am talking about the company itself, and specifically this man who we'll get to. Okay, this is where it starts getting, it gets juicy. If you're wondering just how much Cyberpunk 2077 changed over the past decade, wow. Up to 2016, it was a third person game. Features that were originally envisioned were running flying cars. Car ambushes were cut along the way. This sucks, but it is interesting and kind of cool because flying cars especially called it.  And also it just seems obvious that you would have flying cars in the future. And I am not surprised at all that they were cut because the game I can tell you wouldn't be able to handle it. But the third person game too, like that's crazy. I know a lot of us expected it to be a third person game coming off of the Witcher when it went first person. It was like, okay, we'll give it a chance, but it did seem weird. And I think it's very telling that it changed so late in development. The way the character actually acts is kind of ridiculous when you can actually see it. The animations for the character are not good. For an eight year development cycle to get three years close to launch and cut something as huge as that, pretty crazy. If you're wondering why the police system in Cyberpunk is so janky, well it was all done at the last minute. As is evident by the final product. This is people that worked at the company saying this. One of the things that people definitely can't dispute is how ridiculous the police system is. But I have seen some people try and defend it and say they like it like that. You can only defend it to a point, especially when the people working there are like, if you're wondering why it's bad, it's because we throw it in at the last second. It was unclear to some of the team why they were trying to make an RPG and a GDA with the fraction of Rockstar Star. Again, I said in my video, Red Dead was made in eight years. And they made this game essentially in half the time with half the team. It was never going to happen. Not the way that they were promising and not the way they envisioned. The game that was promised needed four more years. A competent game needed at least two more years. But the fact that this police system was thrown in last minute and essentially is just when you do a crime, they will pop up immediately. It kind of takes you off guard, doesn't it? Like they just pop up and they do so much damage so quickly.  And I think that was the intent.  In conclusion, Cyberpunk was announced eight years ago, but development didn't really start until 2016. In 2018, they had little but mostly a fake demo. I can't remember if I actually mentioned this in the video. I know I talked about it, but I might have cut it out. I tried to stick to facts. And me saying this trailer was fake is me kind of having an opinion and throwing it out there like it's a fact. So I didn't want to say it, but I do feel it's pretty obvious and it's confirmed here. Just look at it. The NPCs are acting normal.  It looks good is what I'm trying to say. It looks good and it looks more real than whatever the crowds ended up looking like bumping into each other with horrible walk animations. It looked really good and you can tell that that trailer is fake. If you're wondering what that means by fake, it essentially means that they mocked up that trailer and then they kind of went to work designing the game to look like the trailer, whether they could hit that or not. Another example, Anthem's original trailer, the really cool one where they fly around and they shoot things. I do believe that that was a fake trailer too, because that's kind of the game that EA wanted and then the devs had to go to work after that trailer was launched, essentially making what people saw in the trailer. They had to try and put that together. You can see here that that's what happened again. They wanted to show something in 18, but they had little to show. So they released a fake trailer and then went to work trying to build that game in 18? So with two years left? Most of the staff knew and openly said it wouldn't be ready for release in 2020, but management believed in CD Project Magic. Again, that magic being the game just coming together. It seems like Cyberpunk was really made in two years. It started in 16, but they had little in 18. So it had four years, but really it was made in the last two years, which is the same story of some of the biggest failures in gaming that we've had. The same company that made Witcher 3, they had to have known. But now that we've seen all that, we've heard what the devs actually had to say about the development. Let's see what the management, what the higher ups again chose to tell us in this five minute apology video that says our commitment to quality. And this is what I meant by CD Project are all liars. I don't mean the devs. The devs are out here trying their hardest and the devs are even out here telling their side of the story. I consider CD Project to be management and the people that tells us things like the Twitter account, this man, people in charge. It doesn't extend to every visual artist that worked on the game. You know what I mean? I do apologize for that. My name is Marcin Iwinski. I'm the co-founder of CD Project. When CD Project red, the game development part of CD Project was born. The ambition to make the best games in the world. I don't have much to say about that other than you could have. You had the vision to make one of, if not the greatest game ever released. You had the hype for it. You had the team for it. You had everything for it. You just chose to release it way too early. And despite good reviews on PC, the console version of Cyberpunk 2077 did not meet the quality standard. Rubbs me weird when he says despite great reviews on PC, it's kind of blowing off a lot of the issues that we talked about, but a lot of issues that we've all had with the game. We know it looks great on PC. I played it on PC and I recorded hundreds of bugs and glitches. You know, let's talk about another reason why it got great reviews on PC. Because you only sent out review codes for the game for PC. You didn't send out console review codes until like the day or the day before the game released. The big publications all got your game weeks early on PC, reviewed it on Metacritic and then you drop it on consoles and it's an absolute disaster. And then obviously the console gamers aren't rating it as I. It's great. It's a great game on PC. I don't know. I don't like that. I and the entire leadership team are deeply sorry for this and this video is me publicly owning up to that. Please don't fault any of our teams for what happened. That in itself I love. They're owning up to it. They're acknowledging the fact that a lot of us were frustrated. They all are incredibly talented and hardworking. They are and you pushed them way too far to get this game out. Myself and the board are the final decision makers and it was our call to release the game. Can you believe that? There's so much more clarity once you read that article or the dot points of that article and then watch this to know that the dev team were saying to management this game's not ready. I can only come up with a couple of reasons why you would want to. One, you just want the money. You just wanted out. You don't want to spend any more time on dev development. Can't imagine why that would be a good idea since you could have made so much more money if this ended up being like a GDA 5 that you could re-release a billion times and make a ton of money off of it. The only other reason I can think of is that you were just so out of touch with your team and you just did not understand that the game wasn't done. You didn't play it. You didn't look at it. You weren't there for the development and you just trusted that it would get done. I can't imagine a third reason other than being out of touch with your own dev team and the game or money. But we made it even more difficult for ourselves by wanting to make the game look epic on PCs and then adjusting it to consoles. The only really excuse he gives for why it took so long is that. He said they focused on making it look amazing on PC. Making the game look amazing doesn't make it fun. I think the time has proven that we've underestimated the task. I don't know if you underestimated the task or you underestimated how much time it would take to complete the task, which is something else I said in my video. And as it turned out, our testing did not show a big part of the issues you experienced while playing the game. No, it did. I just struggled to believe it so much. Like, what were they playing the game on if they didn't have any of the issues we were experiencing? You experienced none of the issues that everyone else had. So what happened once you launched the game? Did the game change? Did you launch a different version of the game, an older version on accident? How could you experience none of the issues?  What do you think they meant by it wasn't ready? On launch day, December 10th, we hit the ground running with a really good start on PC. While not perfect, it's a version of Cyberpunk. We are very proud of that. That line strikes me as really strange. The whole thing about this game was coming when it's ready. So why wasn't it perfect if you released it? Like you are saying right now, we released a version on PC that while it wasn't perfect, it was a version we were very proud of. You know, a lot of people blamed outside media for overhyping the game or getting themselves hyped up. There was actually, let me let me look it up real quick. So a lot of people blamed gamers themselves for overhyping the game and then being let down by the game. But in the very first ever reveal trailer, eight years ago, there was a secret message. You're probably curious about the release date. It's currently scheduled a way off in 2015. Development didn't even start till the year after that. But in truth, the delivery date is more like when it's done. We will release Cyberpunk to you when we are convinced it's nothing but pure refined, unadulterated awesome.  Okay, maybe this sounds pretty bully, but it's our actual goal. You judge if we deliver. While not perfect, it's a version of Cyberpunk we're proud of, they lost, they lost sight. While working from home with all the challenges resulting from the COVID related restrictions. Obviously, it's easy to blame COVID, but COVID did ravage everything last year and it would have made things hard for them leading up to launch. So don't release the game. Now I'd like to tell you about our plans for the future. Our ultimate goal is to fix the bugs and crushes gamers are experiencing cross-platform. I couldn't imagine anything more sad than being a developer that worked even two years, if not four years on a game. And now the game being crapped on from every angle and your job is to now sit there trying to fix the game that everyone's already experienced just trying to fix it somehow. We decided to focus on the most important fixes and updates first and we'll be releasing the DLCs afterwards. The next gen console update. I don't get why this was a number one priority anyway. Okay, they didn't have much time to begin with a couple years and then the last six months were scrambling to get the game together, even adding in things like police mechanics at the last minute. And somewhere in there they were scrambling to try and get PlayStation 4 and Xbox One versions up and running stable, which they couldn't even manage to pull that off. Nowhere in that did they even have time to think about next gen. That should be number one priority. Why focus so hard on the older versions, which clearly aren't working out, ignoring this was a huge mistake in my opinion. But that coming after free DLCs, I don't know how I feel about that. I really feel like this should be priority number one. Thank you for taking the time to watch this video. I watched this before reading all that stuff. I still kind of rolled my eyes at a lot of it. I am glad that they said something and that there was an apology on behalf of the team, but it doesn't really change anything, does it? The game's still the game. It's the game that we got and now that it's out, it's a matter of just trying to patch what's there and fix what's there, but the game is what it is. Honestly, it could have been the most badass and incredible futuristic RPG we've ever seen. They had the vision for it and they had the team for it, but it went through development hell for whatever reason and then was released way too early and now they're scrambling to fix what's there. It's an interesting situation and it is a shame and I do feel bad for the dev teams that worked hard on the game and put in the hours and did what they could. Again, if you've enjoyed the game, then that's great. I'm really happy for you really because there is things to enjoy in there, especially if you don't play a lot of games in general, you know, and you just wanted to pick up cyberpunk and run through it and blast through it. A lot of the issues might not bother you. You're just there to have some fun, blast some enemies, watch some Keanu Reeves, hit the credits and move on to the next game. That's fine, but a hardcore veteran gamer like myself. I wanted to do a follow up and watch this because everyone was sharing it to me like crazy and I do find it really interesting and also it brings delight. A lot of the issues that I hadn't talked about and kind of concrete a lot of it as there are issues and this is kind of why. I hope you liked the last couple of things I made that took a lot of work and you can expect more cool videos like that moving forward and a lot of my usual content. I hope you had a great holiday season. I am back, I'm refreshed, I'm raring to go. I love you all and I'll see you all in the next one. Thank you for taking the time to watch this video.


All about improving this time of the year. It's the last quarter of the season, so we're really going to have to lock in on everything. And I mean, I think guys kind of know it's at stake. No, we need to win as many games as possible to put ourselves in a position to win the division, make these playoff runs. So I think guys are going to be super locked in this week. Coach was saying they're a lot better at home, or at least they've been this year, than on the road. I think they're four and one at home. Right. How much has he kind of hammered that back home and how you really have to bring a solid road game with you? Yeah, I mean, he definitely mentioned this morning. I think they're five and one at home.  So I think it's pretty exciting to play in that stadium. Like I said, I just think that us, personally, as a team, we just have to make sure that we're really locked in. Like I said, trying to take advantage of the mistakes that they do, I think those teams, like Ty and the league, for penalties and stuff like that. So we've been trending in the right direction to come to penalties and things like that. So we just have to keep preparing, making sure we're doing what we need to do on our end. Coach also said that Carl XI truly has backs and tight ends a lot. Yeah. Have you seen that on film? Yeah, I really have. I think one out of every three targets to the backs and tight ends. I mean, they have some really good players. It's starting with their running back in the backfield. Even though he's a rookie, it's probably one of the better running backs in the league right now. He's really explosive. He runs super hard. And Darren Waller, I think, is pretty much their guy. I think he's leading their team and probably targets, receptions, and yards as well.  It's not only his safeties, but his DBs. He's making sure that we're always on him. Getting his face in different things like that to try to slow him down. And I think they're really good on third down as well, I think. But that's because he'd be able to run the ball so well. They're standing third in Manageable. So first and foremost, we've got to start to run, for sure. And then, you know, win on third downs. And then, you know, if they get in the red zone, make a kick field goes. What is the skill this week? I mean, I think he's pretty much a receiver out there. I think he's pretty fast. I think he goes up and gets the ball. I mean, a guy at 6' 7", 250. So he can definitely, he's pretty much one of the faster tight ends in the league. I think he's having a really great year. And I think they're also doing a great job of scheming him, scheming up some plays to give him the ball. I mean, it's not just, you know, flat rocks. He's going vertical in different things like that. So I mean, I think he's just a great receiver. Great athletic guy, for sure. They're really good on third down. Yeah. Getting off the field is always important, but maybe knowing that they're so good this week. Yeah, I mean, I think the main thing is making sure that we're really good on first and second down. Not allowing those guys to run the ball for five yards a pop. So they don't end up in third and two, third and ones. I think we've seen a style thing. They have like 50, third and ones this year, which is a lot. So like I said, that means that they're really good on first and second down. So we have to make sure that we're getting them in third and long as a situation where we can actually run our packages, that Dean likes to run, we can bliss all our guys and things like that. And I think if we do that, I think we'll be successful on third down. Yeah, most definitely. I think the coach will be doing a good job since he's been here kind of getting up to speed. But when we're on the field, especially during practice, make sure we're, you know, extra communicating with him.  We put a lot of things in, but you know, I think us is a great, I mean, us as a DB room, we do a great job of communicating with each other. So we'll definitely make sure that we're always on the same page with him for sure.


Thank you everybody So the goal for the next 15 minutes from my side is convince you that depression as Nothing to do or at least is not just being said or said in it at all And I'm gonna start saying that in fact depression manifests itself as a sum of many different symptoms which Include or might not even include depression the first big type of symptoms that affect depressed patients is something that Has to do with moods which includes alteration of emotion and thoughts and because we know that the press patient very often suffer from alteration of their memory alteration in their thoughts anxiety Suicidality totes and also mood swings and sadness But that happens sometimes and sometimes cannot be there But this is not all of all of it depression also includes alteration in behavior, especially social behavior We know that the press patient tend to withdraw from their family from their friends and also from everyday life including work and everyday activity and Finally depression also affects the physical aspect of our patients the press patient in fact manifests normally lack of energy like lack of a proper sleep they have Changing their appetite and very often ends up in drug abuse situations for all these reasons Depression is now considered the leading cause of disability worldwide and is known to affect roughly four percent of the whole population And interesting the distribution between women and men that's not equal and we know that women are more prone to develop depression than men So despite this very clinical picture Depression is still one of those pathology that is not so uncommon to hear people replying to a depressed patient Oh, just stop being sad. I was sad yesterday as well Just snap out of it But depression as any any other pathology is not something you can snap out of it because as any other pathology is Characterized by a malfunctioning organ in your body when we talk about depression the malfunctioning organ That is not working properly in your body is the brain and we know that not only the brain of Patients is not responding normally as is expected to activities, but also in in a normal state It's not functioning as it's supposed to be On top of these big malfunctioning of the brain We know that during the depression course also other organs start to work not properly And these organs include many different for example the immune system That is the one that protects you from germs and your heart the metabolism Including the gut and the stomach and so on and your hormones in general So why these organs especially why does the brain stop working? So what's the trigger of depression? Well depression is a complex pathology and that means that it comes out of interaction of risk factors For depression we know two main risk factors the first one being the DNA as Also Lily mentioned the beginning of the day the DNA is what your genetic code that you narrate from your parents and As you might know the DNA is what determines all your body function and Importantly also every each on each one of us as a unique DNA We which means when we look inside your DNA We're gonna be able to find small differences between you and everybody else around the world And we know when we look at these small changes that some of them Increase your chance of develop depression and some decrease your chance of develop depression But this is not enough to explain you if someone gets Depressed and someone doesn't we know that a second factor plays a major role in this and this is what we call in the scientific terms environment with environment we refer to any Experiences you go through your life. So as DNA also these experiences can be good. So it can Improve your chances to stay healthy and this includes like the exercise or having support environment around you And some of them can be bad and increase your chances of develop depression like for example trauma or drugs We know that your DNA small changes Determine how you're gonna respond to what happens to you So there is an interaction between these two factors that at the same time Interact on a level of the brain and determine how your brain works And if you collect enough negative risk factors your brain and yourself might develop depression Throughout many years of studies we found out that especially one factor is particularly important somehow plays a major role And this is stress So it's a very negative impacting life experiences So when we talk about stress or a stressor we refer to any real or perceived Armour situation that can happen to you so that can be either physical or psychological And this is such an important event in your life That's something that you need to be able to survive for those reasons in your body You have a stress system that is able to allow you to survive and overcome the stress The stress system starts in your brain when you perceive a stress your brain activates sort of response that leads to activation of many other organs and Ultimately leads to the production of hormones, especially cortisol something you might have already heard of Cortisol and these hormones going your blood torrent and at the same time They act on many different organs change your their function allowing you to respond to the stress among these organs importantly, also the brain is one of the Organs that is somehow targeted from the cortisol and on the court on the brain also there We change this functionality for is for example, we know that we impact on memory and focus and the second response the very important one that from comes from the brain is The understanding that your stress response has been active and is now helping you out to overcome the stress So the stress that the brain now needs to tell the rest of the body that the stress has passed and you need to go back to normality So that's the other very important task of the brain is to shut down this response and these overall allows you to overcome any stress in your life and The proof that let's say a proof that this is a very important system Can be found in the fact that these system can be found in a very similar manner also in simpler animals like fish or mice and We know or at least we know we learned that However, the system can go rogue. What happens when you are of over exposed keep being exposed to stress Well, somehow something stopped working properly and your stress system keep being activated You keep have production of these hormones and somehow your brain doesn't shut down the response anymore And this is a situation that's very often observed in the press patient Their stress system keeps being activated their levels in the blood torrents are not as they are supposed to be of these hormones So this is a strong connection that we acquired throughout the years And we can also see it like more in ground numbers when we look at stress in everyday life or in Like people human studies. So we know that life stress that something can happen continuously in time So it becomes chronic. There are many different phase of life stress one of them that we can take as an example is bullying So we know that as I mentioned before Depression in the normal population are threat affect roughly between five to five and four percent of the population However, when we focus and look only at those people that got bullied throughout their life We know that the percentage of people that are affected by depression increases to 15 percent So being bullied chronically so for a long period in your life Increased your chance of develop depression of three times So these are very important studies. This is all the grounds of the press research came from However, if we now want to ask more complicated question keeping on with this study becomes a little bit complicated Why because any study that involves humans is also suffer from some limitation when we study for example pulling We know that all our patients actually went through many different experiences in the life So our samples will be very different. Also all our all our people Gonna have different DNA as I mentioned before and finally the main organ that is malfunctioning in the in the In the body of the press patient a brain is brain and we cannot really access directly to the brain of our patients So this is when research tries to look around for solution a way of to overcome this to his problems and one of the solution the research found was to turn himself to other Other system that might help to make some research that can be helpful also for human one of this system is the rodents or more specifically mice and rats because Using mice and rats allows us to overcome some of these disadvantages when we use mice arrest For example, we can define controlled experiments We know what our mice went through in matter of experiences and we know what their DNA look like Also, we can modify their DNA and finally we do have access to the organs of the mice So given the fact three very important things that the stress system is Similar between mice and humans that the DNA code is very similar between humans and mice and finally that somehow Their brain function can can be Reconnecting between the two system we can we learn that we can use mice Effectively for our questions. So how do we study the pressure in mice? Well, we don't wait Sorry, I just finished tell you that we use mice. Well, yes But also told you that depression is a mood disorders, which means when we diagnose depression We sit down with a patient. We ask him or her. How do you feel? What's your thoughts where you moods? We cannot really sit down with a mouse and ask it. How do you feel today is better than yesterday? But we can use the mice to study the mechanism that we think are behind depression How do we do that? Well in a kind of similar way that we do with humans So we know that humans have a well-being state. They enjoy specific stuff. They are social animals and They have a normal functioning body and we know that when a combination of DNA and environment applies They're doing their state can change and they develop a depressed state Which includes lack of enjoyment normally social withdrawal and a change in their body functioning Well, we can look at similar things in mice as well. We know that mice have a well-being state. They are Normally animals that enjoy specific stuff. For example, they love sugar They are very social animals as well as humans and they have normal body functioning In experimental settings, we can apply a combination of DNA and environment and when we talk about environment we normally talk about stress and We are able to observe an alteration in their behavior or in their state that we call depressive Like because we can never talk about depression and this usually includes lack of enjoyment For example, they're becoming different to sugar. They become social avoidance and their body function start to change So how this happened in real life? Well, we we have many different types of for example stress that we can apply One of the most used so far the most successful is called social chronic defeat Social chronic defeat is very often thought to be simile to what bullying situation is Chronic social defeat is based on the fact that mice are social animals, but are also very territorial So how does this work? Well, we take a mouse a big usually white mouse and we give it we give him it His own cage so this is going to become his own and his own Territory that he wants to protect and then we take our mouse of interest a small black guy And we put it inside the cage of the the other one What's going to happen is the big mouse is going to protect his own territory So it's going to attack our mouse of interest the black one It's going to defeat it and that's it because we are going to rescue the mouse at that point But we are going to make this happen multiple times across many days So once per day usually 10 21 days So what's happened to our small mouse that is being exposed to a physical and a psychological stress that they cannot avoid? And it keeps happening as bullying happens in real life to humans What we can see is that these mice after chronic social defeat do develop some of those Characteristic that we can observe in the press patient for example, they have depressive like symptoms So they if when they are put in presence of another mouse Normally mice live love seeing other mice they go interact because they are social these poor mice after so Chronic social defeat they start to be away from them and avoid it so they develop social avoidance They also tend to not like sugar anymore. So they become indifferent and any and many other different type of behavior like they become anxious and at the same time We can also see depressive like bodies because we know that the for example the stress system Malfunction and the level of the cortisol in their blood is always increased as we can see in the press patient And we know that their brain works differently from healthy controls Similar in the same regions that we can observe in humans But since now we are using mice we can start and go a little bit deeper and ask ourselves What else can we discover about the brain of these animals and that can help full in human research? Well, since we do have access to the brain of our mice We can ask ourselves. What's the structure underneath? Is it working properly or not?  They have a very specific structure So we can ask ourselves is the brain now working properly because the cells underneath are now working properly when we look at the cells of the press of Normal mice, this is our brain cell look like in green So they have a very well structure. They have long branches. They are very wide They have many and these allows the cell to actually be healthy and to make the brain work So this is a structure that is necessary for the brain to work when we look at the cells of a defeat mouse That's what it looks like. So as you can see the cell is not as it's also supposed to be is smaller There are not as many branches. They are shorter And this is telling us that these cells cannot be working properly because it's not doesn't have the structure that is supposed to be So from this point, we can also ask further question like why are these cells different? Why is this the fact some are contributing to the behavioral changes that we see? Can we prevent it or fix it? So this is just an example of our mouse research is helping in an understanding of stress response and depression But mice are used in every day in many different labs trying to solve many different questions For example exactly how the brain changes with depression or chronic stress exposure How the brain cells are affecting in this process why women and men develop a depression with different ratio? Why antidepressant how they work because we currently don't know how antidepressant work even if they do and Can we actually improve the current treatments? So after this 15 minute talk I would like to go home and have like just few points in your mind That depression is a very common pathology that affects 300 million people worldwide That is a complex pathology made of interaction of complex symptoms that might or might not include the sadness And it comes out of interaction of the DNA and environments especially stress plays a role and that we can use mice to kind of start to understand some of these these alterations and Overall, I would like you that next time that the depression words come up to join and spread what you learn Just to help to reduce the stigma that still comes with mental health and depression that only improve quality of life For our patients. Thank you Thank you Elena. I think that you have touched very Interesting and also very important topic. So even before people stopped clapping. I already saw a Great many of hands. I think this mister in the second row would like to have the word first If you would like you can you can show say the question like that and I will repeat it for the audience So the question was why do you use mice and not monkeys? Depression research is also stress response. It's also done in monkey Of course using an animal comes with ethical implications, right? So monkeys are indeed more similar to humans, but they're also more similar to humans which means they come with a bigger ethical bargain and With a more complex system that is more difficult to be understood mice are simpler They are still have many thing in common with humans and they're way easier to handle from Technical point of view and from ethical point of view Because I mean what you spend for one mouse for one monkey you get hundred mice, right? You also need to have different training is it's completely different thing also monkeys does exist though the research I had to think of the planet of the apes at this question So any further ones I see one hand over there Thanks for the talk first and I have one question Does the female mice also has higher rate than male mice to get depression? Yes So again, we are not talking about depression in mice, but when we talk about being susceptible in to stress to chronic stress so changing your behavior after being exposed to chronic stress females tend to Change their behavior more easily However, and that's actually my phd topic disease Female mice are not studies. This is a big bias in neuroscience in general Neuroscience is based on male mice for many different reasons that we could discuss or not So females are very much underrepresented so far So that's also why the reason we don't really know why women in general are more prone to develop depression or why they are more Susceptible to stress, but their search is now getting back up to it. So it's a ongoing Topic, let's get one more question the guy behind a Christmas tree with the beard and glasses In the dark So thanks for the talk really nice I wanted to ask you what you think about the social stigma in humans that Goes into the numbers of depression between females and males Sorry, can you so do you think there's a difference because we have a genetic difference? Or do you think there's a difference between us? conception and like gender difference in General so is it because we see see males or males behave different because they think they should behave different or is it because of the genes But you mean what's the connection with the stigma? You mean the difference in the sexes. Sorry, we always talk about sexist biology. Yeah, so the difference in the sexes is Measured yeah, but because you have a perception of the sex I mean there's a sex and The but how much do you think is this our society doing to this because you also conceive yourself as male or female? Yeah, so That's maybe a good point a lot of the way in which depression is diagnosed is somehow by symptoms that are Probably less probable to be Shown by men because our society works So men's are less prone also to go and get diagnosed that's definitely true And also we are now discovering that symptoms are not equal between men and women men are for example more prone to get anger and Aggression whereas women are more prone to get said sadness for example So we do have a bias in how we diagnose depression and that's my and that's come from society of course So how we perceive the two sexes But we know by biologic bed basic biology that for example the stress system in women and Female mice and female rats is more Active so you have the same stress men and woman and the woman reacts more So we know that somehow there is an overreaction in the female. That's maybe you're already a lot of other stuff as well, but We know that's true We are not under percent sure how big is the sex biases in depression because we might have a diagnosis bias But that's still in ongoing So thank you for answering those questions


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This is the order at 435 PM. Thank you. That's a high tower. That's really key for. Commiting this early studies that we put everything in tonight. Is he busy night ahead in the municipal government. And it starts with this meeting. So, the first item on the agenda is the agenda. I welcome. Motion. Opposed amendments. To adopt the agenda as amended. The final version of the agenda. I see it. Excellent. Second. Second by Councilor McGee. Thank you. Any discussion of the agenda. Seeing none, we'll go to vote. All those in favor of the motion, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed. Motion carries unanimously. We are. Two point one the public forum and. Is there any member of the public. To speak. To the work. Seeing none. You appear. Chair. You should be able to address the board. Right. Yes. I've unmuted. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I, as a member of the public, I really look forward to the final budget being discussed by the Board of Finance. This comment is not so much for the mayor, but it is for him because it's the Board of Finance is his committee that I understood the reason that the, the meeting on the 20th. Got canceled, but I really feel that. It's really important for the public to understand that the people that are overseeing the overall recommendation of the committee, the committee that have been elected tonight have a chance to. Do that critical eyeball at the end. And I'm just saying that hoping that in the future. If a meeting gets canceled, another would be scheduled. So there would be that discussion. I think it's an important discussion. Because a lot was spent, a lot of time was spent on the police department. And I think it's really important for the public to understand that there are services that get delivered to the community by parks and rec by DPW. Some of these services have fees that need to be affordable. And I just feel that I, I would have benefited from hearing that conversation and understanding that the elected officials were looking out for us. So that's number one. The second thing is, because I know you've got a lengthy night. I think it's important for the public to understand that. That the community issue with the affordability of the high school. And the amount that we as a city can offer for them to bond. And the gap. And I look forward to hearing the community discuss it. And maybe even the council discuss it. Because I understand it's in the school board's realm, but it's. It is our community's realm. So thank you again for your time. Great. Thank you Sharon. Are there any other members of the public that wish to speak for clients to see. Looking at the attendees if an attendee wants to be recognized. And now. Okay. Jeremy Farkas. Yeah. I think you want to speak at this stage as a member of the public or are you raising your hand to be part of the. Just raising my hand. You see that I'm here. And if there's anything I can do. When we get it in 4.05, I'm available to answer questions. Awesome. Excellent. Thank you. And there are other members of the airport here. So I am going to close the public forum. And move to the. Consent agenda. We don't always have a, actually rarely have a consent agenda at the board of finance, but given the large number of items we were attempting to work through tonight, we thought that it was pretty attempted to do it this way. Could you maybe just share with the board what you share with me to worry about how you organize this. We'll go through the agenda. And I don't know which items. Yes. The items that went on to the consent agenda are items. Leases that have no changes, amendments. Budget neutral amendments. As well as reclassifications. And. And that is the one city council initiative fund request. And that is the criteria that I use everything else is on the deliberative agenda. Excellent. That's how we came to this agenda. Are we ready for a motion? Thank you. Motion to adopt the consent agenda. Thank you. Thank you. Is there a second for our motion? Second. Second by council McKee. Further discussion of the consent agenda. Seeing none. We'll go to a vote. All those in favor of the motion, please say aye. Aye. Are you opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you to this word for working with us this way. That brings us straight to 4.01. We're going to move on to the next item. Which is a grant acceptance for repairs and maintenance. The truth to marketplace. It's a. Very positive. Item. Get some important work done using federal dollars. In the interest of time given that we still despite the consent agenda, I still have 15 more hours. I'm going to not ask for summaries. The board should still request information that you need to provide a summary of the information. We're going to move on to the next item. We'll go to the next item. Let's see if there's a summary. So far as open for questions for. Regardless. 4.01. Sorry. Because the level is a little bit brief. I know that this came through the congressional funding. But just curious as to. Why? What? Why would prioritize this? What? How many times do we ask for it? Yeah. Yeah. And some more details to what it's going to. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Of course. So as you know, the marketplace does not have access to the general fund. So we do actually have a lot of deferred maintenance on the street, including. Related to weather and our climate. So we have a lot of frost heaps. We have some cracked bricks. We have some leveling that needs to be done. So having bricks. And then you have to be able to bring it back to the early days of the pandemic. So this is going to be a lot of work that you're going to be able to do, but I think that the. I think the. Just to make it accessible. That's. Before I received. Before received. I guess this is the other. Whereas. Experiencing. And it's not a storage. Relationship with marketplace marketplace. And invited. For questions. and has been as current capital investment on the marketplace has always been a challenge and this is one microphone. Any further discussion of 4.01? I move to approve and recommend that the City Council authorize their grant acceptance as recommended on 4.01. Great, the motion is ready and seconded. Any final discussion of 4.01? Seeing none, we'll go to vote. All those in favor of the motion, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. And we will move to 4.02. Thank you, Carl. I wish for the request for authorization to enter into a non-signatory, non-signatory airline lease agreement with Sun Country Inc. Sun Country, of course, is one of the, just started a relationship with Sun Country. I understand that it's unusual for a new airline to want to move so quickly to kind of formalized statement with some, at least in this way, and we're excited about this. Excited and shows their commitment that they do want to have a sustainable relationship with Sun Country Inc. Thank you. Questions, the floor is over for questions or a motion from the board. I move to approve and recommend the authorization as recommended on 4.01. Second. Excellent. Further discussion? Seeing none, we will go to vote. All those in favor of the motion, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? 4.02 carries unanimously. Thank you. We're now moving to 4.83, which is a contract for the engineering and bidding services with a CERO associates for the board terminal second floor renovations. The floor is open on 4.03. President Powell. Thank you. I'll make a motion to approve and that's actually recommended on 4.83. Any further discussion? Motion carries. Sorry. Okay. No further discussion with that. Now we will go to vote. All those in favor of the motion, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion does carry unanimously. And this brings us, thank you, Mick and Shelby. This brings us to 4.04, which is the aviation director, Marcus, for your adjustment. And this is actually what we're recommending to take to strengthen the search process that is underway. For floors. I'll move to recommend the city council for the prosecution as recommended for talks. Thank you, Councillor Hightower. Is there a second? Seconded by President Powell. I appreciate that we have this on the floor and that it's before us from my perspective. This is an issue that has been concerned about the compensation for this position for many years going back to when I served on the airport commission questions back the last time we did open search for this position back in 2008-2009. And I think this action would help address that. Appreciate the openness to considering it. Floors open for further questions, sir. Councillor Paul. Councillor Paul. The only thing that I would say about this, I mean, I think that it is important that we have a conversation around this. And I think that it is important that we have a conversation about this position, you know, we have not attracted a lot of candidates for this position as yet. I do think that there should be as much as we can possibly do a formalized process that we do this in the right order. And it seems to me that before we go in close to position and then find out that not getting candidates and then do the market factor adjustment first. So that we are attracting candidates will hopefully be more efficient with really big projects. Senator here and there for this process, but we're going to have others in the very near future. And I hope that we will try to do it in that order or at least have a stated process for how we do this. And we don't see Karen here, but thanks very much for the link in the feature staff at this point. Great. Thank you, President Paul. Certainly understand the point. Just a degree. Agree with it. Certainly. It's true that there is no set process. Often we've had feedback to the contrary from various perspectives that there's a reference to see what kind of response we get to this posting to be forming a decision like this. So it's to me, I think it's a great question. And it has been argued both ways, but certainly and certainly we find ourselves in the situation frequently, except for from director level positions where we see to make a change after we've had a period of not having a successful advertising period. So I think there's certainly is not a common position to be in, but I take the point and certainly open to kind of some kind of discussion about what we have to do. And I agree with the council about how to try to do this, particularly with what's required council. Council. With that, are we ready for Council Jen. Yes, I don't think that's wrong. It seems that way. I'm just wondering with the previous seller you have received three applicants from qualified individuals which is a smaller number we'd like it's also less the first pool then we would like as many different perspectives backgrounds represented so also while we may possibly might be able to hire someone initially without making this change something that point that has been made by our insurance insurance or risk is that if you're successful hiring someone there we are below market as we are there is a risk of the person not staying very long after a short period of time here it will proceed much higher but that's not good institution either so I support Council just to say that I agree with and so well I think at least doing the analysis before getting the authorization to bump the cap if you have to so that you can do it as part of the same cycle instead of needing to keep it up or having the few candidates we did have waiting for the approval so that would be maybe a compromise either point taken if there are no further comments do you have a move item we'll go to a vote all those in favor motion to say aye aye motion carries unanimously Council that brings us to item 4.05 we have a big team here to discuss and on the line this is your request to execute an amendment to the license agreement we've made a technologies ink for the continuation of the work created a local area at the Burlington international airport I would like to make an exception to my announcement proposal for this meeting especially the members of the public at home set the context a little bit for what is happening this item follows on the prior actual announcements of how we integrate with the action we expect the council to be taking shortly so perfect so this agreement or this license extension that you're looking at today is with data technologies that we're working with for many many months they are set up with a headquarters building currently at the Burlington airport they've expanded that building extensively and they are now looking at their next site which is this particular proposed property which is the manufacturing site for their electric aircraft mission this site has been under construction with earthwork a significant amount of dirt being moved around in preparation for their overall plan to build that manufacturing site what we're asking for tonight is an extension of that earthworks package to the end of July of this year and also include additional steps to undertake those additional steps include some concrete work some utility work and roadway construction if you remember last time when we presented this there was significant benefit to the city and to the airport because we have not signed them at least yet with data but there's significant benefit to the airport because of this work we performed by data that would stay with the site that's the airport ultimately there is risk associated with data but data certainly understands and knows that so very close to settling our negotiations on the overall lease agreement in fact later tonight we're going to be presenting at an executive session at city council where we are and expecting to bring that lease agreement not license lease agreement to the city council in the July meeting the site has not changed it's the same site that we went forward with at the end of November that site has not changed we continue to work with many of those tenants those tenants that are called the valley tenants we've actually brought a couple of those tenant agreements to you over the last several months on extended lease agreement we are continuing to work with some of those one of those tenants right now Mansfield Health Lake but I feel very well in tune that eventually this summer we'll be very hopeful to bring something back to the city council on board of finance with that particular tenant I think that sums it up very good great fun to do there I just had a appreciate that the rest of the city team have done to I guess the point where we think we are on the cusp of executing this major agreement with data technologies for extended ground lease will be briefing the city council executive session about where that negotiation stands later this evening and I think this is an important step you know I think probably everyone has some sense of when you have a major construction project underway to stop for through the period waiting for final agreement to be created with great major challenges and unnecessary additional expenses and so this is an interim step where the risks are going to be taken by data, I'm taking a step that's an important step on the plan that's been proposed and the data is going to be taken through with the council the executive session today and hopefully the final Brownlee's approval on 18 with that questions I feel like I've asked this question before but just checking maybe it was for the previous actually talked about at some point when we talked about this in the airport there were a lot of tenants who were really unhappy and I guess my question is more unhappy is because I think they were worried about the expansion of data and what that meant for their own needs so I think it's a little bit more about how the other tenants are viewing us that's a great question and I'll throw just a little bit of context of the presentation in November there was no official map associated with that presentation and there was some assumptions that data was going to be occupied a much larger footprint on existing tenant space there is some overlap and that's some of the negotiation that's happening with one particular tenant but the rest of the tenants are very happy in the valley and those of the aviation are the tenants that we're working with today from our flight academy there's great huge developments with the Brownlee's technical center and their aviation program that we're also working with the school district on in that general vicinity as well as the hangar condo associates so we have we've I would say that relationships with those particular tenants are very different than what they were in November and solidified with an extended period at least on their existing footprint there are non-aeronautical tenants that we have had to vacate from the properties but there's also federal regulations that stipulate if the property was purchased with federal funds specifically FAA federal aviation funds aeronautical entities have the preferential lease rights to that particular area and there's much greater benefits of data data development in this particular site and overall aesthetic and development opportunities on that particular site versus to what we had before those were really the only tenants those valley valley tenants the remainder and those are a small portion of our tenants as well our general aviation tenants with dozens of other tenants across the airfield that we are working with on a greater master plan and other opportunities at the air for alternative locations I do think that it's hard to vote on this when we don't have a list of those tenants not that I don't trust you like I hear for it but I think it's hard to say yes to this when we haven't seen the other side of the that's not part of this presentation that's right I think I understand your question I think you should I would submit that there as Nick stated the time in the last discussion there's a lot of moving parts of the time and work is basically unable to answer that fully confirm and communicate with tenants exactly what their status has been you're in a very different place now from my perspective all the tenants except for one tenant and it's from health like that it's a very specific situation it is not impacted by this licensing agreement I think it's fair to say and then we have to have an ongoing negotiation with them if there's something to dispute there I think it's clear it's unclear but to renewal of it that is being worked on so it's a very specific situation with that tenant the other tenants made them at that point we actually have they now have long-term agreements and I don't think there were any kind of outstanding concerns about the action you're taking today it's been quite public there's a lot attention on what's been happening here and I'm not aware of any of the other consultants it's Jeff Lasberg on the line Jeff is not here, he will be later he's not here is that am I I'm not aware of any other than landfill health situations or any other tenants specifically in that area I'm concerned about this license action the science man's field house that we didn't terminate the tenants we terminated this were like the RV park and that it was a temporary situation where because we had no active use we let them store the northern number of RVs on our land on a month month basis and I don't think there's anything to do with it they were hoping they could continue that but it was not something they were entitled to or there have been any long-term expectations that's correct and I would just add that our airport master plan that's been identified for decades including our latest master plan just approved by the FAA a couple of years ago to alter that particular area for aviation use purposes which is what this license ended up with and that was the only other tenant that we terminated as an RV the RV and there was a small landscape company as well so two non-animal tenants will stay where they were the remaining general aviation tenants in that vicinity or right next to this particular site and across the airport have not come forward with any other concerns the fact that all of them have either long-term agreements with the airport on alternative sites or are working with us on growing their footprint in alternative sites as well that's no different than what they did once again sure so that's in relationship to the re-sewing request that happened over the last year or so that request has officially been denied by the subcommittee of the south permanent planning commission and it is not in this vicinity at all it's in fact on the very opposite end of the year literally about a mile away from this site I've worked with many of the neighbors the leadership of the city of South Brompton the planning commission members and the subcommittee members to really approach that in a different alternative format meaning there are ways to help the neighbors as well and be a good neighbor to that Chamberlain area as well as still commit to properly and sustainably growing the airport where we need it to be most importantly is that the conversation but those things can happen together and we're working with I would say a subgroup to really commit to how that works okay I have a question so Jeremy is there something you want to say at this point or just here I'm just here if you have any questions I guess I'd say that right now the area where this work would occur is not occupied by any tenants and as the mayor stated it allows beta to continue preparatory work without having to demobilize and then remobilize all the work that they'll be doing is at their own risk so if for some reason between now and then the city doesn't approve their long-term ground lease the work they'll have done will benefit the airport long-term and the city doesn't isn't required to pay for it so it feels like there isn't a lot of risk to the city in allowing beta to continue to do on city property over the next few weeks thank you Jeremy are we ready for our motion? Councillor James thank you seconded by President Paul further discussion of 4.05 seeing none we will go to a vote all those in favor of the motion please say aye aye very opposed motion carries the yes thank you Jeremy thank you for all that okay excellent good 4.06 east plant wastewater plant I'll follow the pair if you've got a new item and I'll go back to show me up to the board to ask questions if needed I would like to appreciate that I will make the motion to take the action as recommended on board box thank you seconded by Councillor Jang further discussion of the vote all those in favor of the motion please say aye aye opposed motion carries unanimously this brings us to a second DPW item marketplace garage repair contract for structural work with the board all in favor of the motion on board box please say aye second Council please say aye any questions further discussion all those in favor of the motion please say aye aye So the goal of this is really to put just enough into the marketplace garage to get us about a five-year window so we can start the planning process of what's next with that piece of money. I've actually got about $40,000 in my budget to pay for the beginning of that public outreach visioning and actually what those are in this space, so. Hello. No. I have to say that I don't know what the cost of a new garage is, but I'm sure it's significant for a discussion. It doesn't have to be decisions, but the late college garage focus on that somewhere that should bring downtown garage, stair tower, and what's going to be downtown. So that'll be a whole new stair tower. In the future, how can captive that from the elements, it's a Southwest exposure it's getting, it's getting a whole type of pressure. It's through at least working with different pressures on this to do a five to seven. So I've actually budgeted a six year term with a 6% interest. I'm not sure how much we can cover it, but it's going to be five months. The sign is actually market that jurisdiction. They don't have fiscal. So we did to your point, council, Jack, we did present the marketplace condition assessment report the short term strategy to the commission last month. We're trying to spread the. So for the question, we're going to vote all those appear in the motion, please say hi. Hi. Right. Motion carries. Yes. 4.08 design bill stair replacement for the few garage Southwest power. We'll go to the board. Thank you. Thank you. Second. Second. Great. Thank you, Councilor McGee. Second, further discussion. Seeing none. All those appear in the motion, please say hi. Any post. Thank you. Thank you both. Okay. Here we are. The. 4.09. 4.10 are the major budget resolutions. Quite a bit discussion over numerous meetings there before you, it is my hope we're in place. I just wanted to make one last comment. You may have noticed that there was a final version posted at 4.15 of this resolution, despite my best efforts. We have a lot of work to do. I just wanted to make one last comment. You may have noticed that there was a final version posted at 4.15 of this resolution, despite my best efforts. We did find in the state and by the, I mean the talented. W and water resources team. Who realized. On page five. On my 123. I referenced the three attached schedules for water and wastewater. But I had forgotten to attach them. In my 25 page budget resolution. So the only change that was made. Was adding pages 24 and 25. And those are. The private fire protection. The schedule that we saw when Megan presented. And the water and wastewater fixed charges. And volumetric rates schedules. All of that was included in Megan's presentation. And I apologize. It was my error. It should have been in the first version. That is the only thing that changed. From. The version that says final. And the version that says final final. The board like to see their further questions. Ready for recognition. And the interest of time. So. This comes to the council that. After discussing this for the CAO. It seems to make sense that. The other two. I know it's out of order, but. I'm happy to. Make a motion. To form one. As a slate. And I know. Council. After discussing this for the CAO. It seems to make sense that. Combined. And the interest of time. So we have a little bit more time. With the other two. It's out of order, but. I'm happy to. Make a motion. To form one. And I know. Councilor McKee is agreed to do that. So. If no one's. If there's no objections to that. At least do that. And focus the rest of our time. Thank you. That's a motion. Okay. Excellent. That is welcomed. And go back to. After this. Is there a second for that motion? Second. Thank you. Discussion. Any discussion on. 4.11. 4.1. 5. I think. It's. Exit. Discussed. Is. It's. I was just wondering. What would you do with the. We'll be the plan with the. For the crisis response, that could inspire. Sure. I'm happy to speak to that. I do would suggest that we. Just to clarify and make sure we're on the same page where we're going. The motion. The motion on the table. That has been seconded is for 4.1.1 through 4.1.5. That none of the. Various actions contained with that really touch on that piece of it. That really. I would suggest I'll speak to that when we get back. Excellent. A further discussion of 4.1.1 through. 4.1.5. Seeing none. I will. We will go to vote all those in favor of motion. Please say aye. Aye. Sorry. Post. Motion carries unanimously. And so those are recommended. Now let's go back to 4.09. And I'll answer that question. And. Here, here is. Here's how. We. Would like to proceed with this and how the budget. Has us proceeding. It's actually a pleasure resolution. That speaks to this is. We. There is a gap between the fully. Funded model. The full. The full bid that we've received. Or. The. Crisis resolution. That speaks to this is. We. There is a gap between the fully. Funded model. The. Crisis response. Services. As, as. You know, as we went out to. To the public with it after the clutch discussion with various. Different stakeholders. And that is concerning. I have an in discussion for many months with. State officials about the possibility. State closing some or all of that gap. But. There's. We characterize it as strong interest from senior. Agency for Human Services officials and doing that either. Through. Appropriation. You know, through either through the. There are several size of all. Mental health related. Funding sources that are possible funding sources for this. There's also the possibility that. There's also the possibility that. There's also the possibility that. There's also the possibility that we could be eligible for. Direct kind of billing to. To. Medicare Medicaid. And. You know, given that. I appreciate your prior questions. Other counselors expressed. Egerness for this. Program to. To. Begin. And. I have a question about this. Yeah. I am asking for a little bit more time for us to complete those conversations with the state. And attempt to get this. New program started. Without. Additional. A local funding. Less necessary. If it is necessary. I understand this. Having that conversation. We'll be back. But at this point. I think it would not be prudent to take that stuff given. Status of state conversations. So. As I've committed. If the council is the budget resolution pass. As noted. As. As before you. We will give you monthly updates on. On this effort. From now into the fall. To try to address. You know what I think it's a wide a held sense of. In the end of the year. I think we're going to have to. I think we're going to have to see this. We're going to have to see this. So that's how we're proposing. That's correct. Thank you. Any further. Discussion. I don't think we have a motion for 4.09. So we did have a motion for the. The other four. But. And what. Which. Gills with the remedy side. Of the budget. It's a.枱 for some. My. Thank you very much. For that. President Paul seconds. Thank you. Further. Discussion. Four point nine. See none. We'll go to a vote. All those are fair emotional. Say aye. I. Thank you. She carries unanimously. Very much welcome. You know, it's a recommendation of the budget. I certainly my perspective that. Appreciate the months of engagement from from the board on this item. Thank you. And. Let's. Then let's come again. We should do it. I think we've done many years for every group and ask a few things about the process of people like different. Future. We talked about that, but. Thank you for getting to this. This recommendation that's made. 4.10 is the annual tax assessments. And request a. Motion on this, I will. In the budget memo that. The municipal. Property taxes. There is some increase as we have. Use the full authority in order to have given us. Overall, because. The school budget. And because of changes. Decisions made.  All of the positive things. In the. In the budget that you just recommended. Are possible in a year where overall. Overall. The priest. The property. About 4%. You're now. So. In that context. Do we have any motion? Are we ready for a motion? Since I know it's not the most fun thing to do. I'll make that motion. Take the action. Directly. Thank you, President Paul. A little more fun in the years that we know. There's a. The world picture. Looks pretty good. Second by. Councillor Chang. Discussion. 4.10. Seeing. No. Motion. Motion. Motion. I know it's not the most fun thing to do. I'll make that motion. Take the action. Directly. Thank you, President Paul. A little more fun in the years that we know. There's a. The world picture. So. Seeing none. We'll go to vote. All those in favor of the motion, please say aye. All right. Very opposed. Motion carries unanimously. And thank you. For that. A recommendation and thank you for the collaboration tonight to complete the lengthy agenda with. Even it's a spare. Without objection. We are returned. To. 2pm. And I believe. You will. You can meet upstairs. In. A little minutes. Yeah. Go to get it. Reading. Upstairs at 5.30. Or the expected. It's true.