someone talked to me recently and they were talking about living with shame and they felt ashamed all their lives so shame is a very destructive emotion and we went into why they felt ashamed and There were reasons reasons for the shame That were justified in their mind But mainly it came down to the fact that It was how they felt other people viewed them you know where they were with their life and The judgments that they felt were were coming from other people and The thing is the solution to this is So fast and so easy If you're just ready for Feeling like you're being judged by other people feeling like you're ashamed of your life Shamed of yourself shamed of what you've done It's you know when you meet people and they ask you how is your life going?  I don't have any answers. I stumble upon answers occasionally, you know But I'm like everybody else. I'm trying to figure this stuff out But I think maybe one of the answers is If you just accept I'm happy then judgment that comes from Outside sources is like water off a duck's back Really it is if you just give yourself not wait for someone else to give you the the approval It's for you to just say You know what I don't know maybe things aren't optimal in my life. Maybe they're I'm not where I should be but you know what I feel fantastic I feel good and and Watch how they respond, you know what what judgment is going to hurt you at that point You can also emphasize the fact that you're okay with being patient for now, you know, this is where I am right now It's not where I'm always going to be But it's just to you there is so much strength and saying, you know what guys? I'm fine. I'm totally fine and accepting it for ourselves Nothing can really no judgment can hurt when we accept our own happiness for where we are So I guess I'm making this short video I'm out for a walk today, and I just wanted to make this because It the answer is so simple. If you're okay with where you are everyone else will be okay with where you are That's the power of this So think about that. It's like when we're going through this story we have about people are judging me and you know No one accepts me for who I am even if that's true if we can work and accept in ourselves and You know being grateful for where we are nobody else can do a thing. No one else can say a thing So accept yourself. Okay. That's what I'm working on Accept where you are. It's just a point in time in your life and And who knows where it's gonna go from here, but I think the journey will be a lot easier If we just say okay right now, I'm okay. I'm fine Okay, I'll talk to you soon. Take care. Bye


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Income tax 2023-2024. Social security number SSN. Get ready and some coffee because we need to know a lot of information to do income tax preparation 2023-2024. Most of this information can be found in the line instructions of form 1040 instructions tax year 2023 which you can find on the IRS website at irs.gov irs.gov social security number or SSN so obviously the IRS sees us as a number we've got to have the right number in order to properly file the tax return noting that oftentimes the tax returns are filed electronically these days so we're going to need that social security number matching up properly with the name so that we can make sure and be able to process the returns on that electronic format otherwise it might get kicked back to us and we're going to have some workarounds on what we're going to do from that point possibly fixing the name and or social security number possibly having to file if we can't in some other way such as by paper for example so an incorrect or missing SSN otherwise known as social security number can increase your tax reduce your refund or delay your refund which are all of course not good results to be having here so we don't want to confuse the IRS this is the general rule don't confuse the IRS you're just going to get into a bureaucratic boondoggle and it's going to cause problems keep it simple make it make it easy for the IRS to get things done over there so to apply for an SSN social security number we're going to fill out form SS5 and return it along with the appropriate evidence documents to the social security administration so note we're talking about two federal agencies but don't make the mistake thinking that all government entities are in essence the same you are going to the social security administration that's not the same thing as going to the IRS you want to keep the agencies straight the social security number you're typically dealing with the social security administration ssa they communicate with the IRS in that that's the number that's going to be recognized when you file the tax return so then the ssa the social security administration assigns the name and the 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information that it needs so check that both the name and social security number on form ten forty or ten forty SR W two and ten ninety nine agree with your social security card in other words when we file the tax return you often times we're going to electronically file it so we have to have the salt the number needs to match the name that we're processing now note if you use software you will often be paying paying for the software possibly by return if that's the case then it's usually the social security number that triggers the cost of using the software so you that's another reason you don't want to have to change the social security number because that's going to cause a problem in terms of the fee for the software possibly so you want to get the social security number in there properly the first time match it up properly to the name then when you file the tax return then the IRS should be able to recognize it with hopefully the e file if not it might kick it back now also then the forms that we get will typically be processed according to our social security number such as our W two forms and our ten ninety nine for example these forms being forms that the IRS basically forced the person that gave us income in some way to to kind of rat us out to the IRS right to give these forms to the IRS the IRS has the W two is in other words and the ten ninety and the ten ninety nine's they're going to assume that the W twos and the ten ninety nine income should be reported on the tax return related to the social security numbers on the W twos and ten ninety nine's if you file income differently from what's on the W two or ten ninety nine's it's going to cause you a problem typically because the IRS might question that because they have the documentation of the W twos and the ten ninety nine's therefore if you have an issue with the wrong social security number on these income document forms you might want to then contact the person who issued the document employee or the employer or whoever was the contractor so that they can get those adjusted on their end so the IRS has the proper information which will then match up to the tax return that you'll be generating. Okay, so if they don't certain deductions and credits on form ten forty or ten forty SR maybe reduce or disallowed and you may not receive credit for your social security earnings. So obviously the other issue is that your income that you that you get if you have schedule C type of income then you also might have the social security taxes in the form of self employment tax or if you have W two income then you might have withholdings for social security. So the thing with social security is that you're paying into the social security system which is almost being thought of as like a government kind of retirement program these days meaning the more you put into it the more you should get out of it when you retire. I wouldn't depend on that but that's the idea and so so you want to make sure that you have the proper information so that the money that you paid into it's going to give you a benefit when you take it out which means they have to have the proper social security number that your earnings and withholdings for social security have been tied to noting that social security is different than income taxes. But we kind of verify them at a similar time sometimes right because they're both on the W two form with payroll taxes. So if your form W two shows an increase an incorrect SSN social security number or name notify your employer or the form issuing agent as soon as possible to make sure your earnings are credited to your social security record. So in other words if there's a problem with the W two you would think all I'm going to I can go to the IRS and fix that I'll just tell them that my W two is wrong. But the IRS is probably going to say hey look we would like you to fix that with the employer or you have to go to the employer or to reissue or fix update the W two to properly record it because they're the ones that are not only giving it to the IRS but also to the Social Security Administration to make sure that you have the proper withholdings and are allocated the withholdings to the Social Security. So you have to go to the issuer of the form typically which sometime is a pain because you might have quit that job or you don't want to talk to them anymore anything like that. But that's where you that's where you you know you would typically need to go if you can't go there then you might have to take some other action but that's what you would want to do. So if the same name or Social Security on your Social Security card is incorrect you can call the SSA so that you could also call the Social Security Administration. So once you are issued an SSN Social Security number use it to file your tax return. Use your Social Security number to file your tax return even if your Social Security number does not authorize employment or if you have been issued an SSN Social Security number that authorizes employment and you lose your employment authorization and I-10 will not be issued to you once you have been issued an SSN. So if you receive your SSN Social Security number after previously using an I-10 stop using your I-10. So if you don't have a Social Security number you might have an I-10 so they're going to recognize you with an I-10. But once you get the Social Security number basically you're not generally going to go back to using the I-10. Once you have the Social Security number you would then use the Social Security number. So IRS individual taxpayer identification number otherwise known as the I-10s for aliens. So aliens from the United States right. So if you are a non-resident or resident alien and you don't have and aren't eligible to get an SSN Social Security number you must apply for an I-10. Now again if you're a tax preparer this might be a realm of specialization again right because because it's going to be a little bit more you're going to have different issues when you're talking with aliens and different statuses there and that could be something that you want to specialize in or it might be something that you don't want to specialize in because you're not you don't feel as comfortable in that particular area. One of the issues of course being the Social Security number so that they can be identified and be able to work. Now part of the problems with working in the United States when you're not a citizen is this whole issue with the Social Security because then the question is well should they be paying to Social Security because they might not be getting a benefit from Social Security if they're not if they're not a citizen at the time of retirement and so on and so forth and it gets all messy. So it takes about seven weeks to get an I-10. So if you already have an I-10 enter it whenever your Social Security number requested on your tax return. So if you have an I-10 without this but not a Social Security number then the I-10 kind of acts as your identification number as opposed to the Social Security number. So your I-10s must be renewed. So if you haven't used your I-10 on a federal tax return at least once for tax years 2020, 2021 or 2022 it has expired and must be renewed if you need to file a federal tax return. So the I-10s are not you know permanent and therefore you have to keep them up to date so you can properly keep in compliance with the tax code and so on. So you don't need to renew your I-10 if you don't need to file a federal tax return. You can find more information at irs.gov forward slash I-10 tip. I-10s assigned before 2013 have expired and must be renewed if you need to file a tax return. If you previously submitted a renewal application and it was approved you do not need to renew again unless you haven't used your I-10 on a federal tax return at least once for tax years 2020, 2021 or 2022. An I-10 is for tax use only. So it doesn't entitle you into Social Security benefits or change your employment or immigration status under U.S. law. So obviously if someone is here as an alien you know they're not a citizen then they want to work here and be productive and so on. Usually you have to have a Social Security number to do that so that you can be in compliance with the tax code and have the Social Security withholdings which is now kind of part of our federal retirement program kind of system. So if you don't have that then you're going to have to be assigned the temporary number the I-10 which is basically used for identification for tax purposes. Just for that purpose basically only. So once again an I-10 is for tax use only. It doesn't entitle you to Social Security benefits meaning Social Security benefits are when you have payroll tax withholdings withdrawn from the wages and then at retirement you're going to get that money back. Now obviously as a U.S. citizen most people would rather not pay into Social Security and just save for your own retirement would probably be the safer way to go. So that would be I wish I could opt out opt for that option but it is what it is. So or change your employment or immigration status under U.S. law. So for more information on I-10s including application expiration and renewal you can see form W7 and its instructions. So if you receive an SSN after previously using an I-10 stop using your I-10. So you get an SSN then that's it you don't use the I-10 anymore. Use your SSN instead. Visit a local IRS office or write a letter to the IRS explaining that you now have an SSN Social Security number and want all your tax records combined under your SSN Social Security number. Details about what to include with the letter and where to mail it are at IRS.gov forward slash I-10. Non-resident alien spouse if your spouse is a non-resident alien your spouse must have either a Social Security number or an I-10 if you file a joint return. Your spouse is filing a separate return. So you're married you think you'd file a joint return under normal circumstances but now your spouse is a non-resident alien. So you still need that identification then either a Social Security number or an I-10 typically. 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Hi, welcome to the All Things LGBTQ Interview Show, where we interview LGBTQ guests who are making important contributions to our communities. All Things LGBTQ is taped at Orca Media in Montpelier, Vermont, which we recognize as being unceded indigenous land. Thanks for joining us and enjoy the show. Hi, everybody. I'm here with a stellar group of interviewees, Julie Enzer, Shromona Mandel, and Cheryl Clark. And we're here to celebrate the publication of this wonderful issue of Sinister Wisdom, a tribute to conditions, a wonderful lesbian feminist publication that was put out in beginning in 1976. And you have 17 issues, very impressive. So these are the three editors of this volume, and we're here to talk about it and celebrate it and promote it. So before we introduce our interviewees, let me turn to Julie and ask her how viewers can get this volume, and tell us a little about Sinister Wisdom, if you would. Great. Thanks so much. And Sinister Wisdom is the longest continuously publishing lesbian literary journal we've been publishing since 1976. Right now we do four issues a year, one every quarter. The issue is available to anyone who subscribes to Sinister Wisdom starting today. We'll send it out. Subscriptions are $38 for one year, $62 for two years that's in the United States. A little bit more expensive for our comrades outside of the United States because of how much postage is these days. Folks can also order, and people can subscribe at SinisterWisdom.org slash subscribe. People can also order this individual issue at SinisterWisdom.org slash sw123 that SinisterWisdom.org slash sw123. The issue is $14 and then we charge what our actual postage cost is, which is I believe at this moment $3.25 to ship it media mail through the mail. And if people have questions you're welcome to email me Julie at SinisterWisdom.org and I can provide more information. All right well let's start with the woman who has just spoken. Julie Enzer is an editor of Sinister Wisdom. She's a scholar and a poet. Her scholarship is an intersection of U.S. history and literature with particular attention to 20th century U.S. feminist and lesbian histories, literatures, and cultures. By examining lesbian print culture with the tools of history and literary studies, she reconsiders histories of the women's liberation movement and gay liberation. This is a fascinating field. Her book transcript, A Fine Bind, Lesbian Feminist Publishing from 1969 through 2009, tells stories of a dozen lesbian feminist publishers to consider the meaning of the theoretical and political formations of lesbian feminism, separatism, and cultural feminism. We read about her work at www.JulieEnzer.com and Julie came on our show, audience members may recall, 11 months ago in which she talked about this fabulous manuscript that we're all waiting for. I can't wait, you know, I watch your interview again and again, I just can't wait to read it. So, let's move to our other panelists. Sharona Mandel is an American Studies master's candidate at Brown University and you're soon to finish that degree, is that right? You received your BA in sociology and social and cultural analysis from New York University and we were talking yesterday and I said I had gone to school in New York, you had too. You're probably a little more timely of the whole experience. They are applying to PhDs to pursue a project investigating the cultural production of Indian American Hindu elite women. This is so fascinating, Sharona. I can't, if you have a thesis, I'd love to read it. Are you writing a thesis? I wrote an undergrad thesis and I'm in my capstone class, so something will be coming out soon. That's great. When I got my MA, I chose the exam instead of the thesis, I have to procrastinate, which was my custom as an academic. Right. You aim to contribute to a body of scholarship working to dismantle global Hindu nationalism. That is really important work, I think. You can also find Sharona reading and writing with sinister wisdom, a multicultural lesbian literary and art journal of making zines and of making zines with student organizers. Welcome, Sharona. Thank you for having me. It's great to have you. Cheryl Clark, who needs no introduction for many of us, is a Black lesbian feminist poet and author of six books of poetry.  Thanks to Julia Ernzer, present company, readers may access a digitalized version of her work, Narratives at the Lesbian Poetry Archive. Let me just have a little show and tell. I have a early, oh, humid pitch. I have an early, I have a firebrand edition of this wonderful volume that I have read for many years. Now I've lost track with my, in 2018, Cheryl co-edited, co-edited Dump Trump, Legacies of Resistance, a special issue of sinister wisdom with Morgan Grenwald, Stevie Jones, and Red Washburn. That's a great title, but it's out of print now. Is that right? Oh, sad. Yes it is, but it is available as an e-book at the Sinister Wisdom website. You can search for it. Good. Are you going to eventually digitalize all the sinister wisdom issues? Yes, eventually they'll all be digital as PDFs and available for free. Great, because I've been just reading old issues of conditions that I don't own, and it's a great, you know, in fact, in our conversation we'll put up the chiron about where you can access the old issues of conditions, but we digress. Since 2013, Cheryl has been one of the co-organizers of the annual Hobart Festival of Women Writers. This is so exciting. I had no idea you were doing this. This is in Hobart, New York, the book village of the Catskills, where her partner Barbara Beliet, Belie, and she operate the Blenheim Hill New and Used Bookshop. Y'all come visit, you know, I was just in Kingston, New York over the summer. Is that near there? If I'd known, we would have come. An hour north. Really, we would have, you know, we would have made that trip. I'm a false book buyer. Oh, and I bet you have great holdings too. We do. All right, welcome everyone again. This is very good to have you here. Now, let's talk about the issue. You'll hear a little more from me, but then I'm hoping our panelists will talk a little. Sinister Wisdom 123 researches back 43 years to the beginnings of conditions, a feminist magazine of writing for women with an emphasis on writing for lesbians. Founded by Ellie Balkan, Jan Clausen, Irina Klepvich, and Rema Shore in 1977. And let me just throw in my own autobiography. I moved to Boston in 1979 and belonged to the collective of the second wave, which was also a feminist magazine, but five of the six collective members of the lesbian. And so it was my ticket into this wonderful explosion of lesbian print culture and these women figured prominently. And so did you, Cheryl. I was saying earlier to your co-panelists that every poetry reading I went to, you were there reading, and you're such an important part of that history, Cheryl. So, thank you. Thank you. All right. I keep digressing. This issue honors one of the signal publication of the late women in print movement, a time of prodigious writing, organizing and creating when women seize the time and the means for our own revolution in letters. Let me just take a moment to quibble because I think the women in print movement is still alive. It's being digitized and maybe it's just nostalgia. But according to this... I agree with you. Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah. I mean, my heart sort of skipped a beat when I saw the late women in print movement. Okay. Paying tribute to conditions as one of the new number of U.S. lesbian feminist publications which asserted for 13 years recognizes the words of Jamie Harker and Cecilia Contrafar that books could be revolutionary, that language could remake the world, and that writing mattered in a profound way. I think it still matters in a profound way. I'm a true believer. But I have some questions for our panelists. The first is, how did this issue come together? I'll start with that. How did you happen to do it? I mean, there's a little conversation in the beginning of the issue about Cheryl and Julie discovering all the boxes in New Jersey. How long ago? Oh, this was more than 10 years ago. Julie came to my... Well, she tells the story, but she drove to my house in Jersey City. She drove from Washington or Maryland. Well, anyway, same difference. And she was insistent upon taking conditions under her wing. And she did. I had had it in storage. I don't know how long. A long time. A long time since a long time. 1992, probably. And you were paying for storage all those years? Yes, I was. It wasn't that much. And so we packed them up and she took them. And she sent them at her own expense to libraries all over the country. So she had a commitment to conditions for so long. And it was her idea to do a tribute issue. And you were involved because you were an editor. You were the custodian of the actual law. Yes, but also I was on the board of Sinister Wisdom. So she could just reach out and command that I help her. Shwamona, how did you get involved? I found out about Sinister Wisdom when they were advertising the Asian Muslims issue and at the Asian American Lit Fest in 2019. And I missed the deadline for submissions. So I decided I just emailed Julie and asked to get involved as an intern. And in 2020 January, I joined as an intern and Julie had this project with the conditions archive in her head. And we talked about it and after digitizing one copy of Sinister Wisdom, I said I want to do this. I want to dig into the archives with you all. So I was able to join and start this amazing project. That's great. So how long has it been in process? Many years from when you unpacked all the volumes. But when you focused, when Julie, I guess, decided to have an issue, what was the timeframe between that decision and the publication? Which is recent. So I just want to add one other piece of the genesis because I completely cribbed the structure for what eventually became the issue that we have now from E.G. Crichton, who was the art director of the journal Outlook, which published from 1989 until 1993. And E.G. did a similar sort of archival project paying tribute to Outlook in San Francisco and did a museum exhibition and another issue of Outlook. And she recruited younger people who had necessarily even been born when Outlook was published to respond to each of the issues of Outlook that were published. And I learned about this at the Queer History Conference in June of 2017. So that, like, and I remember sitting in the conference and listening to the panel and saying, like, this is what we should do for conditions. It was so clear to me that this was like the structure. It was like the queer revelation. And so then I, like, knew the structure. I came to Sheryl. Shremona appeared to us. And it was like oceans, oceans, eight or nine, whatever it was, the women, like the whole band was together and now we could go do it. But, you know, like, most issues take a good two or three years from an idea to actually having the physical book. This has been about five. Very impressive. So let's talk about the structure. You were able to elicit contributions from all the original contributors. That's an accomplishment in itself. Did you have trouble finding people or? All the original editors. Exactly. Sorry. Good correction. Yes. All the original editors. How did you find them? Sheryl? Well, they're still alive. No kidding. We found many of the editors. We didn't find them all. Some of them didn't want to write. But the ones we found did, obviously. So we got something from the four founding editors, each of the four founding editors. Julie and Shremona did an interview with Irana Klepfitz. Ellie Balken submitted some archival material. And Rima Shor and Jan Klosson wrote essays. I love those essays. We had their presence in our tribute. We didn't want to not have them in there. Well, it was so important. And just as an aside, when I was looking up Shremona for the show, I googled her and stumbled upon your interview with Irana Klepfitz, which I immediately watched. It's a fabulous interview. And the condensation in the issue is good, but I encourage viewers to look up Shremona and you'll find it on Google. I mean, I loved her what you condensed of her piece because it's so optimistic about making change and that you don't need a hundred people that used to, as started with the three of you and you produce this great publication. But you could have two another pioneer that I know says you can have two or three people on the street corner and that'll begin a movement. So I love the optimism in that interview. So we talked about, well, not only did you have contributors to each of the issue. You had respondents. You had 17 respondents, uh, including Cheryl and Shremona. No, Cheryl wrote an obituary, right? And yeah, I want to ask about that inclusion too. But how did you, how did you get these contributors, these respondents, and what made you, what was your principle of selection? That was Julie, Cheryl and I putting our brains together, pulling from the lesbians we knew. Yeah, it was, it was actually fun reaching out to different people. Julie knows everyone. She knows a lot of people. That was good. That's great. I mean, you really have an arrange, you know, people who are kind of famous like Sarah Schulman and Carmen Maria Manchotto and people who are really good that may not have as high a profile. So it was, it was let me ask you about the conclusion then. You say you have contributors, respondents, and then you include an obituary, a tribute, a couple of tributes. How did you, and a book review, how did you happen to do that? How did you happen to include that in the issue? Well, Carol Oliver, to whom we have the tribute obituary, was a member of the conditions collective. And she died quite young in 1995. So we wanted to say something about her. And she and Gloria Hall were close friends. And I asked Gloria if she would, you know, if she would write a remembrance of Carol. At first, she said no, because she thought it would be too emotional. And then she said yes. So she wrote it. And Julie asked me if I'd write the obituary for Carol. And of course I said yes. So that's why that obituary is in the tribute issue. I want to just add that because when we were researching everybody who worked editorially on the original 17 Issues of Conditions, we discovered, I think Cheryl knew it, but I think Tramona and I discovered that Carol had died in 1995. And one of the things I feel really passionately about in Sinister Wisdom is the obituary work that we do, that we include tributes and remembrances that really contextualize lesbian life in rich ways. And so knowing that she had died and was part of the original, was a member of the collective, and also that there was scant information available about her life, right? And realizing how easy it is for people's lives to be forgotten and for their contributions not to be recognized, and that without sort of rich stories of who lesbians were and what kind of work they did, we have an even harder time for people to imagine what sorts of work they might do in their own lives. And then there's the tribute to Kay Joven LaHausen. Yeah, well Kay died. So then the other piece, the other thing that I always try to save some room for in Sinister Wisdom is that we have space for tributes for people who died. Kay was one of the original members of the Daughters of Beletus, and Marcia Gallo wrote about it, and she of course has written Different Daughters, one of the definitive histories of the Daughters of Beletus. So when she emailed me and said I'd like to do something, I said yes, of course, and it worked into this particular issue. And then we also include book reviews in issues. Sometimes editors tie the book reviews thematically to what's happening in the issue, and sometimes I just drop them in. And what about the book review policy? I think I might have I might have read somewhere that, and I try to do this with the show, I try to showcase those LGBTQ voices and not tear them down, you know what I mean? I try to celebrate them more than criticize. And what about you don't do you run negative reviews, or do you have a review policy? We don't have a policy.  I always ask, you know, everybody contributes their work to sinister wisdom for free. So we tend to not have hard and fast policies because a lot gets done on goodwill and good feeling. I do when I receive books that I want to be reviewed, I ask people upfront, you know, like, is this an area of interest? I want to write, I want to run reviews by people who are sympathetic to what the author is trying to do, and really tries to understand what their work is and convey it to our readership in a way that people can imagine whether or not they want to read the book for themselves. So that's the kind of approach that I take to our to our book reviews. That makes sense. So it's taken five years. And how did you find the contributors? Just word of mouth or the response? We knew many of them. She knew many of the, many of the intergenerational contributors. And she reached out to many of them. And the way that it worked for us was we sat down with the 17 issues and we thought of who would have a really wonderful response to the particular issue that we wanted to get reflections and speculations and et cetera on. So Julie and I were sitting, we had that spread and we were thinking about who would match well with each issue. That's great. Well, the product is certainly exemplary. Let's talk a little about some of the contributions. Sarah Shulman, who I'm a huge fan and Sarah's, she responded to one of the issues. And I'd like to read a little of her response, if I could, and ask you to comment. It concerns lesbian culture and marginalization. And she says the price of keeping your own culture alive and evolving was separation. In many ways, feminist and lesbian artists repeated this conundrum. And 40 years later, the marginalization continues. So the first question I'd like to ask you, let me digress. I took a lesbian culture class in University of Wisconsin Madison in 1986. And the teacher whom I admired was rumored at the end of the class to question the existence of lesbian culture. And she was a big postmodernist. But I disagreed and I still disagree. But what are your thoughts about lesbian culture? Does it exist? And what are its features, would you say? And of course, there are millions of different lesbian cultures, but maybe lesbian, print, digital, reading culture, intellectual. Yes, a lesbian culture still exists. And I think it will exist. And lesbian print culture still exists. Yes. I think that one of the issues is that, excuse me, some of our work has been absorbed into mainstream culture. So sometimes we forget its origins, especially many of those who are absorbed into the mainstream. So yes, it still exists. And people like Julie continue its vibrancy. We also know this new book that just came out, Mouths of Rain. Have you heard of it, Anne? I have. Mouths of Rain. Do you have it? No, I'll get it. Where is it? Mouths of Rain, the new press, Julie's press published it. But it's about it's Black lesbian culture. That's what she writes about. And the editor Jones, so she has very well chosen Black lesbian literary contributions, past and present. So yes, it still exists. And there are people who are keeping it alive, even though the language we use to describe lesbians is evolving. Well, that reminds me of the interview that you did with Irina Kleftvitz, where she talked about those early days. And she said, paraphrasing, we rejected mainstream culture, but we all kind of wanted to be respectable too. Remember that? Yeah. I remember that. But yeah, we were all kind of vehement in rejecting mainstream culture. And Shulman goes on to address that when she says, hence the long overdue retrospective view on the historic and foundational conditions magazine takes place in sinister wisdom because of the marginalization under the guidance of the gifted visionary editor, President Company, Julie Enzer, instead of in the New Yorker or in the New York Review of Books. So we are still marginalized. Is that a problem, do we think, or does it even matter? You know, I sort of resist the marginalization argument. I resisted because we do not view our publications as marginal. Now, maybe the New Yorker and the New York Times are marginal to us. Good point. But, and also, there is a reason we are, we still reject the mainstream. Because the mainstream is not always where we want to be. You know, we still have our audiences, you know, that we have, that we are responsible to. I mean, I'll stop right there. Srimona, where do you weigh in on these questions? I kept thinking about lesbian culture and the, and exactly what Cheryl said, New York Times being marginal to us. And I was thinking about this very, it's been, it's been turned into a controversial topic for this idea of safe space. And it's less safe space and more autonomous space in my head. And I think that, yes. So I think that that's what it is more so than marginalization. And I think about how it's in 2018 that on Tumblr, where I get most of my lesbian culture when I was younger. And it was in 2018 that Emily Gwen designed the lesbian flag. And there's so many different iterations of it that come out. There's Twitter bots that are lesbian pot of positivity, Twitter bots. And I think that lesbian culture is so alive. And we are always trying to look back to what the work, the work that had already been done, even if it is marginal, it is autonomous. And that connection is still very much alive. And it has many manifestations as you suggest. Absolutely. Any thoughts, Julie? Come on, Julie. I think that the only thing, you know, the only thing I'll add is I think, I think it's a real, I think it's a complex question of this, this sort of relationship between a broader, either popular culture or intellectual culture and different and lesbian cultures and questions of marginalization. And, you know, I'll note that Sarah Shulman was the person who wrote about it. Sarah has occupied many spaces in all of this throughout her career, like let's not forget that Sarah's first novel was published by Barbara Greer of Nayed Books. So she profoundly comes out of lesbian print culture. And I think her, the sort of valences of her questions really are about power and how writers and artists gain power, which is also the ability to pursue their work with more autonomy. So I think, so those are some of the kind of questions that she asks. For me, some of the questions, although I'm, you know, deeply gratified by the kind words that she says, I'm also profoundly aware that I have chosen every step of the way to edit sinister wisdom to give to give sinister wisdom my time because of the because of the flexibility and because of the belief that I have in the value of this work, even if it's not in the New Yorker or the New York review books to me like they're, it's just different questions about different choices that writers and activists make about the work that they do with their one life. That's very good, Julie. Yeah. Yeah. Well, all of your answers were really supportive. I also liked the essay about the university. And I have to say I identified with a lot of this in this volume. But Rachel Corbyn, I can't read my writing, responding to conditions one talked about many of us having not to use the word marginal, but tentative, almost insecure relationships to the academy. But how we have brought that the knowledge that we have as lesbians as les participants or devotees of lesbian culture to the academy in our, you know, like, for example, I taught for 30 years, I never had a tenure track job. But I was able to teach lesbian and I was able to teach, you know, once I got control of the syllabus, I could go to town. I mean, that was a huge privilege at the time. And it was in Louisiana. So I don't know if I'd be able to do that today. But that's another, I mean, the whole collection is really wide ranging. So let me ask Cheryl, if I, if you don't mind, do you think I really enjoyed the pentalobe, which I was able to access online? Do you think that there's a black lesbian canon? You were talking in the, you were all talking about the canon for formation and I was struck by how different things. Yes, I think there is. And I'm proud to be a part of it. Yes. Yes. And I can't wait to read this book you just recommended. I'm in that book too. Great, great. Yes, I think so. I think I think thanks to people like Barbara Smith and conditions and sinister wisdom all have led to the creation of a black lesbian canon. And the editor of Malds of Rain, Breonna S. Jones, she's committed to, she's committed to furthering that canon of black lesbian literature. So yes, it's fabulous. Speaking of your wide ranging writings, you've written a lot of essays for publication. And my question is, do you plan to publish a collection of essays that we'd all love to read? No plans are in the works as yet. Some of my, a number of my essays are in the days of good looks, prose and poetry, prose and poetry, 1980 to 2005. It is now out of print. But a number of them have been there. Essays are so much work. But you've written a lot of them. Yes, but there's still so much work. Maybe Ann, but none are in the works as of yet. Okay, okay. Because you will talk a little bit about the book that is in the works. Oh, please. Yes, Ann, I have, thanks Julie, I have a book of new and collected poetry that's due to be out from Northwestern University next year, 2023. So that's what I'm working on now. That's great. And you'll have to come on the show when it comes out and share some with the viewers. Certainly, Ann, just write me. Oh, okay. Let me ask a couple of more questions before we close. Srimona, you were able to write a response to conditions 10, I believe. And it was interesting because it was epistolary, which I liked a lot. And there's some, I mean, there's poetry and there are essays and, you know, there's the epistolary introduction with Ellie Balkan. But let me read your, Ann asked you to respond to the following comment that you made in this letter. I began to learn the ways that intentional, ambitious, and small-scale circulations, it's getting dark here. Sorry. Circulations can do the heavy lifting of building power. Do you want me to read it again since I stumbled through it? I began to learn the ways that intentional, ambitious, and small-scale circulations can do the heavy lifting of building power. Absolutely. So can you expand on that, please? Sure. I think doing this issue and the interview that Julie and I did with Irina Klefesh was very pivotal in helping me understand power and organizing because I've come to understand organizing as coming to collectively understand not only our role in social change, but our capacity to build change. And that realization, it only happens in practice and writing and reading and doing editorial work. And what I was seeing in conditions 10, doing the fundraising, doing the more logistical work, deciding how to review and what to include and how to have that conversation with everyone. But in this very, decentralized, this very sparse and distributed network, that to me was very powerful, but also it was inspiring to think about how that is so much more possible even now. And just this idea that power is built through realizing visions collectively, through really understanding how coming together makes things possible and committing to small-scale instead of over committing yourself, all of that stuff is very much a lesson of conditions. And also just the fact that it's lesbian publication or actually a lesbian editorial board running a feminist publication that was doing this. So that was incredible for me to learn about. So the power of women's collaboration and community lives on? Absolutely. Well that's encouraging along with the women in print culture that we think is also continuing.  And then I would ask you to respond to it. Now I'll turn the light on so that might be more propitious for me. Senator Wisdom understands the vital importance of promulgating the lesbian literary good news. And the conditions of a feminist magazine of writing with an emphasis on writing by lesbians was one of our most marvelous radical beacons. And the lesbian literary good news continues. Julie, what tell us about the lesbian literary good news? And you're welcome to chime in other panelists. We could all use some lesbian literary good news I think. Well I think that you know one of the really marvelous things about where we are right now is that there's a variety of places where lesbian writing is reaching interested and receptive audiences. So it is happening in what Park Bowman and June Arnold called the mail stream publishing houses that was their kind of take on mainstream. The large commercial publishing houses are publishing really interesting edgy important work by lesbian writers. And I think that we have to recognize that and appreciate that for the kinds of distribution that those authors get and the audiences that they're able to reach. Well at the same time we have really interesting things happening in lesbian periodicals like sinister wisdom. There's another periodical called WMN zine. There's a periodical that's called lesbians are miracles that publish is exclusively online that has magic. Lesbians are mad. I always confuse the two right. I just know that because I've listened to your last interview 11 months ago. Right I always I always confuse I'm just pulling up to see if I can see it but I don't write away. Lesbians are either miracles or they're magic. Some of us think that they're both but only one is the title of the journal. And I think and it's one of the most beautifully produced lesbian journals that that I've seen perhaps ever they they're just doing fabulous stuff kind of uniting text and visual artwork. And so so and then on top of that there are various publishing efforts that are happening. Jewel Gomez has a new collection of writing coming out of poems coming out from BLF press that S. Andrea Allen runs. The Lisa Moore from Red Bone Press has done some of the most innovative publishing over the past 20 years. So there's lots of really interesting pockets of things happening and things coalescing in different ways that I think is really exciting and that I think nurtures writers and readers and help us all in times that can be really precarious economically and depressing politically. This work is coming out to help us have a vision and have some sort of support for imagining new and different kind of futures. Well said. Any other lesbian good news anybody wants to share? Thank you. Or should we move on to last words? We're getting to the end of the show unfortunately but there's plenty of time for valedictory remarks from each of you. What would you like the audience to know and what are your concluding thoughts? Well I'd like to thank you Ann for interviewing us and for having your show. Well thank you for coming on. I'm very grateful. You're really luminaries. You'll elevate the discourse of our lesbianaries. That's right. Well thank you. Are there any last thoughts that you have for us? I'll say order the issue. Subscribe to Sinister Wisdom. SinisterWisdom.org is the URL where you can do everything. And always if you're sitting out in the audience thinking well why did they do conditions and not this magazine which is my favorite and you want to be a part of another editorial collective please reach out. There's always more work to do and Sinister Wisdom I think of us as the organization that says yes to lesbians and lesbian ideas so if you have them out and let's work together. Okay Shromona you're on the spot. Oh no I would just say that intergenerational space is everything and I'm really grateful to your show and to Sinister Wisdom for creating something like this and yeah that's my concluding thought. Thank you. Cheryl anything else? No I think I said enough. Never enough. We'll look for your current publications and for your work everywhere that I've been enjoying and thank you all very much for joining us. We had a great time and keep up the good work all of you. Lesbian print culture lives. Yeah. Thank you for joining us and until next time remember resist.


Hello, I am welcome to the session. I am Deepika here. Let's discuss the question which says A card from a pack of 52 cards is lost from the remaining cards of the pack Two cards are drawn and are found to be both diamonds. Find the probability of the lost card being a diamond Now we know that according to Bayes theorem, if even E2 so on E and R events which constitute a partition of sample space S that is even E2 so on E and R pairwise disjoint and Even union E2 union so on union E n is equal to S and A be any event with non-zero probability then probability of EI upon A upon A is equal to probability of EI into probability of A upon EI over sigma probability of Ej into probability of A upon Ej j varying from 1 to n So this is a key idea behind our question We will take the help of this key idea to solve the above question So let's start the solution According to a given question a card from a pack of 52 cards is lost And from the remaining cards of the pack two cards are drawn and are found to be both diamonds So let even be the event Lost card is diamond to be the event the lost card is not diamond therefore probability of E1 is equal to 13 over 52 and This is equal to 1 over 4 Now in a pack of 52 cards 13 are diamond cards. So 39 are other cards Which are not diamond cards? So probability of E2 is equal to 39 over 52 and this is equal to 3 over 4 a be the event drawing from the remaining cards probability of A upon E1 that is the probability of drawing two diamond cards Given that the lost card is diamond equal to 12 C2 Over 51 C2. This is equal to 12 into 11 over 2 upon 51 into 50 over 2 this is equal to 12 into 11 over 51 into 50 and This is again equal to 132 over 2550 probability of a upon E2 That is probability of drawing two diamond cards Given that the lost card is not diamond. This is equal to 13 C2 over 51 C2. This is equal to 13 into 12 over 51 into 50 This is again equal to 156 over 2550 Now we have to find the probability of the lost card being a diamond so probability lost card being a diamond provided diamond cards are drawn and this is given by probability of even upon a Hence by using Bayes theorem probability of even upon a is equal to probability of even into probability of a upon even over probability of even into probability of a upon even Plus probability of e2 into probability of a upon e2 Now we have probability of even is equal to 1 over 4 probability of e2 is equal to 3 over 4 and probability of a upon even is equal to 132 over 2550 and Probability of a upon e2 is 156 over 2550 So on substituting these values we have probability of even upon a is equal to 1 over 4 into 132 over 2550 upon 1 over 4 into 132 over 2550 plus 3 over 4 into 156 over 2550 this is again equal to 33 over 2550 upon 33 Plus 117 over 2550 and this is equal to 33 over 2550 into 2550 over 150 and this is again equal to 11 over 50 So probability that the lost card being a diamond provided two diamond cards are drawn is 11 over 50 So this is the answer for that question This completes our session. I hope the solution is clear to you. Bye and have a nice day


It's brilliant, it's positive, positive. It's positive, positive. It's positive, positive. Talking about the Romo situation, because I asked T.O. earlier, it was Romo, a better quarterback, are announcer. Because you know, when you're sitting there, you're like, if he can see what the f- if he knows what's going on, why didn't he know that when he was a player? And you just explained it perfectly. Yeah. Do I need to explain it? Yeah, why not?   Again, he doesn't have any pressure coming after him, you know, in a booth as he does on the football field. Right. So you don't have those innate abilities to escape. You know what I mean? Right. In a booth like you do on the field. Right. You get what I'm saying? What you're saying, or a lot of quarterbacks know what's going to happen, but it's different when you've got a guy 260 pounds running at you. And you have two seconds to do it. Absolutely. Right, right, right. So he's not so elite, maybe a call in the game, like if you brought another quarterback who had played the position for just as long, he could probably predict the same place. I don't know if Troy Eggman don't do that. No, 95% of the players. I don't even know if he's there still. He doesn't know where he is. Different between Troy Eggman and Tony Romo, Troy Eggman has won Super Bowls. Right. Tony hasn't really won anything. And that was a knock on him that he couldn't win the big game on. Right. Pass. Okay. Can we, I have a question. Because I have a theory. Let me clear this up. That's not me hating on him. No, I'm just saying facts. Right, but people are hearing and they're like, oh, he's hating this and that and the other. No, I'm not hating on him. I cry for the guy.  And that's, I ride it.  Right. I thought the questions at that time was unfair. And to clear, so everybody, bring everybody up to speed is we got into the playoffs. He was dating Jessica Simpson at the time. We had a week before a playoff start and they went to like Cancun or Cabo or some of him and Jason and everybody else.  You know, then we came back and we lost the game. So we got, we got press press conference, you know, and they tried to blame it on that was his trip was the why we lost the game. That has nothing to do with me. I think I had a high ankle sprain. So I was getting treatment. He always heard. Yeah, bro. That's kind of a point to you.  But I can't, I came through in the big moments too.  Then all of a sudden we're in the game and then he gets sick. So you're losing. We end up losing. You're saying the game sequence from the booze. He was hungover. 23, 24, 21. We end up losing up losing a Super Bowl. But everybody was like, but I never, the thing is I was so I was so I had two screws and a plate in my ankle. So my focus was honestly. You weren't able to play. Right. Yeah. So my focus was on getting ready and being prepared for the game. So I had no idea till a week later that he had thrown up in the huddle. I sent her at the time and Freddie Mitchell, they're the ones I think kind of acknowledged or, you know, there was the first ones to mention that he had gotten sick in huddle. I did an interview. I was in Miami, some reporter, what have you. And so he asked me about the incident and I said, and my response was, I said, if anybody should have been out of shape, it should have been me because I hadn't played in like about a month and a half. Yeah. So I never said anything about him being sick in the huddle or him throwing up in the huddle. But with my response, it came out the next week. Oh, Terrell's criticizing Donovan. He said he threw up in the huddle. He was out of shape. Listen, I never said. You actually just said Donovan McNabb got drunk the night before the Super Bowl. This is another. I said, that's why. He said boozed up. Yeah, he was boozed up. But I said, I didn't know this is what happened. Where was the soup? What was the soup? What was the soup? I don't know.  And he just recently come out and said, oh, I prevented them from getting, you know, to the Super Bowl or making a Super Bowl run that the following year when the year of the Super Bowl, two weeks prior to the Super Bowl, they were asking him about my availability. You know, for the Super Bowl, he was basically saying that he didn't need me. They didn't need me. We got to the Super Bowl without Tio because they played those two playoff games without me. So then, so why would you now come out and say, oh, I prevented you from getting to the Super Bowl the next year? When you just said you didn't really need me. I brought a lot of swag, a lot of energy, a lot of professionalism, a lot of big plays to Philadelphia when I came over from San Francisco. And I think that kind of energizing, that kind of stuck with the team and that kind of flow through the season. They wrote that energy that I brought into the playoffs. For both of y'all, because both of y'all played football the night before a big game, shouldn't players protect each other from going out and getting drunk or getting high or being with women? But you would think, especially how he's regarded to be a consummate pro, professional. He's a quarterback, captain of the team. You would think that he would be the guy to make sure that those things. Yeah. In good locker rooms, usually they do, right? Good locker room. All the veterans are making sure the younger guys are in by a certain time. Or like I said, there's no reason to go out because we're here for one goal. When you have like a younger team or like younger leaders, then they think that's what it's about. Most good teams do have a good locker room. They kind of police themselves. What if it was nerves though? Like the night before a big game, do you got to go out and try to do something to take the edge off? You do the exact same thing. You should do the exact same thing you've been doing all year.  But if you win, no one cares, right? Like, you know, Michael Jordan's out gambling until like 4 a.m. in the morning. But he was the freak of nature. Jordan could do that. But you can't put Michael Jordan and Donovan in the same place. I know. I know what I'm saying is winning 20 and 20. You can't. You can't. No, you can't. You can't be in that conversation either. No. Did you just put you and M.J. and Donovan? That's what I'm saying. You're here. There's M.J. and Kobe. You're not here? Bro, come on. I'm here because they're not here. Okay. Let's look at. No, I've been trying to tell them the same thing. He's not on that level. M.J. and Kobe will obviously Kobe rest in peace. But like M.J. and Kobe, they're doing different things because they transcended the sport. Right? I've been what I did as a receiver, a big receiver. I'll give you that but just don't go on their level. I will say this about receivers. I think that receivers are the most dynamic position possibly. Say what you say. Come on. Give it to me. Come on. Can I butter up? Can I butter up first? No, don't butter up. No, you're not here. I think it's the most dynamic, probably the most dynamic athletes in sports. I also think it's the least effective position in helping your team win. I would never pay a wide receiver. I think a word you've said is useless. I think it's the most useless position in terms of helping your team win. I get what you're saying. Why would you say that? To my receiver? I just don't know an elite receiver that's won a Super Bowl in the last decade. Both of them are receivers. I know. I was an elite receiver. Hold on.  I've never seen an elite receiver. So if Superman wasn't getting, didn't get sick in a Super Bowl, we would have won. If he wasn't drunk, hungover. So to your point, to discount your point that you didn't see you've never seen an elite receiver win a Super Bowl. No no. In the last decade. Last decade. Okay, okay. The last one I can remember is Marvin Harrison. And do you guys remember the, he wasn't, that's not, if he's not elite, that's not the top 10 ever to play the point though the point is because the game is not in your control right okay you guys can be as great as you want to be okay but you catch the ball eight times a game that's an amazing game right only eight possessions you affect the game you're not really blocking you are blocking on every single play so don't say that ever again but go ahead okay so you're not truly affecting the outcome of the game as much as other position play for example offensive defensive line like those the only people I would pay offensive defensive line quarterback maybe I don't even think you got to be that good you're gonna pay the offensive defense line you pay the a defensive line I'm all for them they're underpaid their defensive line they're grossly underpaid and it's their phone you guys are exciting you guys sell the tickets and the people who sell the tickets get money don't get me wrong the one-handed catch is OBJ I don't ever gonna win a Super Bowl okay so what you're saying is right there's 11 players on the field right yeah you take those two or three receivers top three receivers if you take them out and just put in regular dudes yeah what do you do when it's third and seven what do you do when it's third and 11 what are you doing the last two minutes of a game because if those receivers are not getting open you don't you don't have one right now because he's not as good as a receiver let's just say he's blocking tight end block every position hold on hold on hold on offensive linemen and a receiver so how the tight end gonna be factoring into this equation which he's trying to explain to let but no let's just say he's not in this equation right he's blocking because you have to be blocked up we need max protection because our quarterbacks getting beat up let's say right okay so you only have three receivers we go for receivers right if those guys aren't catching the ball how are you advancing the ball down the field I throw a screen that doesn't work come on now that moment that had to just explain okay there's 15 to 23rd downs in the game right you're gonna have two two minute situations in every game so you're talking about out of all of those plays you take out the receivers you cannot advance the ball and how many times have receivers they just don't have to be that good but what if they don't catch it because you know what guys who are average that play receiver they don't catch the ball number one I can't catch the ball we're talking about this is easy to catch you see why the new Patriots suffered just for the how many rings they suffer we're talking to stay on course look at those wide receivers West Welker and his fight to stay on course he should be working to keep their health health that's not a true statement that's a dude why did it why did the Patriots suffer this year because they didn't have a receiver or a tight end to get open that was his frustration now you know your point you make a good point I'm just telling you that one year when the when the Patriots had the arguably the greatest wide receiver what do they end up doing at the end of the season they lost the Super Bowl because when elite wide receivers don't help you win they do help you win when they use in the right way they might help them why wouldn't they why didn't they win the Super Bowl so you think it's Randy Moss father I'm not saying that but to his point when you need you're gonna need some dynamic receivers and so no to his point it was a very not smart conversation you're having because if you take linemen out it's the same thing you take receivers out it's the same thing you fit the quarter it's all the same you need 11 people football is the best right team you'll ever it's an amazing sport because 99% of people watch it have no fucking clue what's going on they're still entertained by it right I'm ignorant to what happens I can't describe what a nickel defense I can't do all this kind of stuff I don't have in the conversation all I can take off his data he thinks he can come to vote for y'all right now I could definitely I can do heart surgery and then played one on one with Jay Williams he challenged Jay Williams Jay Williams spot him at that point that's buckets though that's bucket can you move dude can you move? of course I can move but there was a 7 point game oh no you don't want to smoke I don't want to see you try to cover to you I'm the best athlete in this room no you're not you're the second best athlete I can't say who's better I know that if you got analytics then you would know okay smart guy I don't know his analytics you know he didn't know my analytics I'm a dude okay you're a dude there we go we say dude in sports that means he's an elite guy definitely there are elite receivers and there are game changers yeah playmakers yeah you I'm one of I'm one of those two that I mentioned I'm a playmaker and I'm a game what do you think is higher cuz me a lead is higher well again I think an elite receiver is a game changer yeah but do you think that you could catch a pass if I was defending you now that's not even why you even answering the question like when that when we beat everyone first of all this is this is equivalent this is equivalent when we played when I was with the Niners and played the New York John I won't even touch and they had Jason Seahorn I'm not about a little white boy check me boy you got a white man right here you kind of look like you look like see for it actually here's a look like it's not let's look like at the line here's a thing I won't even check you with the line you what is that even a word what's that I'm playing football on the streets bro I didn't do this bougie look at the size of these motherfuckers you know what they said this is interception