if the Board decides to go to executive session at the start of the meeting, Ray could send an invite to the Board in administration so that you don't have to have all these folks leave. Yes, I was actually going to bring that up because the first thing we need to do is have adjustments to the agenda. And we do indeed, Jamie, need to have an executive session to discuss a real estate option, details of which are not appropriate to be disclosed to the public at this time. And I would like us actually to begin with that item to make sure that we get that considered. So that is my first adjustment to the agenda is to add an executive session. Good point. I'm sorry. I thought I called the meeting to order at 6.34 with a quorum of five. So the meeting has been called to order. We're then moving into adjustments to the agenda. And I can you just can you just inform because there's some phone lines that are open right now. Can you remind them of star six? Is it star six six or whatever to? It is star six. For those of you that are attending this meeting on the phone, please mute yourself by hitting star six to close your microphone. There will be a public comment after the there will be a public comment portion of the agenda after the action and discussion items in the agenda. We will at that time go through and hear at least one public comment germane to the items discussed on the agenda from every Stockbridge and Rochester voter that is on this call. But until then, please star six to mute your mic. Thank you. That's star six to unmute your mic. Am I muted? Hello. Hello. You are not, sir. It's star six to unmute. So it's star six to mute. As well. Yes. Yes. It's a it's a toggle. All right. Thank you. No worries. Okay. So are there other adjustments to the agenda administration, Jamie? So then I'm sorry, Ethan, go ahead. No, I said no, sir. Sorry. Okay. So then if you were just talking, you were muted. Sorry. Yes. Sorry. Yeah. Just the I put it on email. I'd love of two or three minutes on the on the ad. You have a questionnaire. Okay. We can add that as item 4.5 under discussion items. Thank you. Okay. So then Ray, if you can send us a an invitation for an alternative meeting so that we can all we can all go and do that and then return to this one. One. We need our business executive session. Yes, Tara. If you want me included in the executive session, Ray will need to add me on the email as well. And the question, the other question I have is whether a Pat Harvey could be called as a consultant in that executive session as a member of the Rochester Select Board. That's at your will, but she is here on the call and available if we so choose. Okay. I think let's start having a conversation just amongst the board and administration and Tara, of course, and then we can reach out to we can reach out to to Patty if the board feels we need to bring her in. Hey, Ray, any chance you can put some music on for the people waiting? No, I'm sorry. I don't have that ready. Maybe in the future we can have like a Red Sox game. Okay. So I would before we all leave, I would entertain a motion that the board go into executive session to discuss a real estate option, including our administration as well as our business manager. So moved. Do I hear a second? Second. Any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Okay. The board go to your email, find the other meeting and join that. Do we need to leave this meeting first? I would leave it first just to make sure that somehow a mic doesn't get opened. Right. So to leave this meeting. Yeah. How will people know if they're joining late that there's even a meeting going on? I think Ray will be keeping this meeting open just without us. So please keep commenting if you hear someone come on. Okay, Ray. We'll do. Thank you. Yep. Okay. Let's see. I see Jenny and Amy. I'm back. Megan's big M. I think we're still waiting for Ethan. He's asking one more question of the superintendent. So we'll give him a moment to rejoin before we official up. There's Jamie. Ethan, are you back? Because there's Ethan. Okay. The board has come out of executive session at 6.56 p.m. In direct response to the conversations had at the board meeting of July 7th, the board is authorizing Ethan Bowen to contact the Rockchester Select Board to set up a full board meeting between the full board of the Rockchester Select Board and the full board of the RSUD School District Board in executive session to discuss a real estate option. There's no further comment from the executive session. So that moves us back to our agenda. We're now into a general board comment. Does anyone have any general board comment? Megan, Ethan, Jenny, Amy. Okay. Hearing no board comment, we're going to move into discussion items. We have a discussion item 4.1 with 2021 budget. So I can jump in quick. And I met with Bonnie and Lindy based on your guys' indication about relooking at the budget. We did our best to think about what it would look like in regards to efficiency savings without utilizing the high school and what it would result in. Bonnie or Lindy, whichever one you want to take, I don't know which one it would usually jump in. They'll talk to you about what we discussed and what we're proposing. And then the tax sheet was shared with the board. And if Tara is on the call, she can walk you through that if you have any questions. That'd be great. I can't walk through it, Jamie. I'm walking. All right. Well, I can walk through it. Bonnie or Lindy? So when we met yesterday, we heard the feedback given and direction to head was that we needed to look at what efficiencies and savings there could be by not utilizing the high school building for educational purposes. In a short turnaround, what we discussed is that the savings we are going to see are in the fuel area. So we were able to reduce that based on current expenditure reports from the last fiscal year by $13,000 as well as we do not foresee as many fixes that may need to be made because of that. So we reduced that line item by $6,300. We did not feel comfortable cutting electricity because it's not necessarily a usage thing. So we weren't sure how that turnover was going to be based on electricity not being used, but we just didn't feel like we had the data to make those decisions. So the total cuts that you were able to, you were able to conservatively and comfortably predict were somewhere in the neighborhood of $19,000, $20,000 which is about it. It was $19,300 which reduced the tax rate additional cent. It also reduced your per pupil spending to 46 cents under the threshold. The yield is updated to $10,998 based on a bill that was passed recently in June called H959 which was signed by the governor on June 30th which further reduces the tax rate. And so it's updated the non-residential tax rate which is now 1628. And on your tax sheet all these changes would result in fiscal tax rate, homestead tax rate of 15155 in Rochester in a fiscal year 21 homestead tax rate of 1638 in Stockbridge which would result in changes in taxes from fiscal year 20 to 21 of 0.0156 or 1.04% in Rochester or and in Stockbridge 0.0056 so as 0.34% change. So it was actually even though it just sent due to the scent and the updated yield there are some significant changes and thank you Ray he just put it up there for you what I was just talking to you and all about okay so so that means yeah our tax it went up a penny and a half in Rochester and a half penny homestead tax rate change in Stockbridge so that is we were we were flat with our first budget offering on expenditures and now we are despite losing the despite the loss of the two-set merger reduction we're really pretty much flat with our tax rate as well that is that is really really very good and thank you for making a a really quick turnaround to give us to give us some numbers when we were pretty we were pretty happy with you guys when you were telling us that you were giving us we're going to give us better a budget ideas in September hopefully we'll keep getting more clarity around around our spending in in our new post-covid at national normal so just a comment from the board please yeah I just wanted to just point out it just exactly what we're saying that on the new rate is in Rochester one cent compared to the current or the current tax rate so from and then in Stockbridge it's only it's a half a cent increase from the current tax rate not not what we were trying not the previous budget but I'm talking actual taxes that you're paying right now correct that's correct and that was down to the vote prior you just so folks remember the board Rochester was four cents up the vote that was defeated and Stockbridge was three cents up so that's significant excellent is there any other is there any other board comment or questions they might have for Tara Jamie Bonnie or or Lindy around the uh uh 2021 budget you anticipate any costs that will be needed due to reorienting for COVID-19 I understand that those expenses would probably be covered by I believe it was the CARES Act but is there anything like that that we should be aware of and kind of factor in yeah we so we discussed that at length we are planning on CARE Act money to help offset those additional costs that we anticipate will incur in addition we could we didn't we didn't want to dive in any deeper in the event that some of those costs are not covered so I feel fairly confident that this budget would support any cost that might not be covered due to COVID but in addition to we're going to rely on CARES Act money great you also have two principles I think outside the box so I'm hopeful that we're not going to take on a bunch of additional costs excellent I mean the other thing we're going to look to just so you know too this this came up at the SU meeting we're going to look to purchase SUY which we're hoping reduces the cost of PPE and things of that nature great okay um discussion item 4.2 is the the 2021 revised warning which I think I saw Dina had let you a copy before if we highlighted Carl a while can I chime in for a quick second Carl sure just a quick clarification question are you going to take any action on the revised budget um I think we're going to do I think we're probably going to think about that in the context of the warning as well okay um and what we wanted what what we want to do about that I think that given that we you know we we had had the first budget defeated if we're not prepared if we're not prepared to to to to warn out this budget I'm not sure that we we should be accepting it you know what I mean if we're not prepared to warn it out we may want to send it back and say look at this or look at that or you know whatever it would be but I I think we would probably once we've once we've looked at and discussed a revised warning that would be when we would both accept the revised budget and the revised warning does that make sense to the rest of the world can I ask um so I'm sorry is this is this the decision of whether we put forward the same budget or we put forward this new budget in the and that depends on the voting process to which one we do is that correct from what I gathered from the last meeting no no because this was an Australian ballot we don't have to re-warn a floor meeting 10 days we have to re-warn an Australian ballot which means that the the warning period is shorter okay but I'm just saying when do we make the choice of what we're putting up for a re-vote or a re-vote or a new vote we well the the re-vote is kind of beyond the board's control the re-vote happens or a reconsideration vote happens when five percent of the district electorate puts forth a motion to reconsider any any uh uh accepted or defeated option beyond a personnel decision you can't vote out you can't reconsider a select remember that from last time right so what we're doing we're we're we're going to the path we the the we're taking is the path is the simplest path for the board which is the board just decides to re-warn uh an election that can be or re-warn a budget that can be the same budget or a different budget and it needs to be it needs to be at least 10 days out from the date of the warning with an informational meeting uh five days in there or some uh and and so you always you always correct me when I try to say these dates so I'm going to wait till you take a drink of water and then ask you to confirm them it is 10 days that you have to warn us but um I believe your informational meeting is still five to seven day window from the actual vote right okay so five to seven so and and you're answering Tara's question by saying we didn't take any action on the budget when we just heard about it because now that we're talking about the warning we're going to make the decision about which budget we're warning right right and we're what the board feels comfortable with and what we think our best path for path forward is which we can also say we want to think about this and and and come back a week from now well I do know that Jamie said you know don't be in a rush right right right but that's that that's why I mean I gotta run out of money it's it's it's on our agenda I just wanted to and and certainly saying you know what let's think about those numbers and uh think about the plan I don't know when we could have that select board meeting we might want to see if we could have at least that conversation before we really decide on on on a warning or not I don't know that's up to us and that's the part of giving the meeting about um real estate issues correct correct okay I just sent you uh that draft that Dina gave us if that's helpful for you if you want to thank you so we may decide not to do anything in this moment that's why it's under discussion you guys thank you I just I always like to be really clear about exactly what we're talking about correct so um the the special warning that the Dina has prepared is really basic it just has one article which is where we uh warn either you know the old dollar amount of vote the modified dollar amount vote from a Terran administration or some third amount that we want to choose um it's so it's it's really pretty basic we have the document we can modify it and and and and bang it outside if we need to um it's using the same um the same voting locations uh that we used before so I'm not sure if we've if we formally clarified that but the I know that we would be piggybacking on the locations that the town has the towns have already picked for the for the primary because the reason to do it on primary day is to save the expense and the exposure of of having a yet another special election um so it's a really a pretty basic warning what do we feel comfortable with uh a board opinions Amy as far as when to hold our our our Australian ballot our vote is that yeah I think it makes sense that if we plan we should try to piggyback the primary for exactly those reasons you said it just reduces people's exposure from having to be out in in the public situation in multiple times and and also people are coming out to vote they'd be doing it all at one time right it saves it saves money too we don't have to have the the town office open and clean for another ballot right Ethan Carl yeah is it possible for me to speak at this point uh no Beth okay sorry are we I have a I have a salient point is yeah we're gonna make a comment in your roles as a as a civil board of authority person um we're the town person it was a town person you need a combination of both uh I'll I'll save it till the end but it may affect how you do this okay um board dude do we have to hear from her now or do you want to wait till public public comment well so Carl my question was gonna be I have not reached back out to Lori to see where the August 11th vote for the town of Stockbridge is because normally their votes and maybe this is what Beth was referencing normally voting happens at the meeting house so I do not know the answer to that question um if that's where the meeting polling place was supposed to be for August 11th okay um it would be we would want to be at the same point um we'll be on the phone if you guys need me Lori can you confirm where the uh where the uh August 11th elections are being held the August 11th elections being held at the town office and Rochester at the high school again yes okay thank you um so we would be then morning we would be then morning at the Stockbridge town offices and the Rochester high school question question again um so what why do we need uh to vote a budget why would we need to do it what does it achieve I mean I I can think for myself a reason that it gives our principals confidence that they know that their budget is solid and it's not something out there but I am just I think it's a valid question why are we why are we going forward when we could just we could wait for a while as Jamie reminded us yeah yeah I mean that's the same question we had in May when we decided to schedule a vote for June 30th versus waiting you know waiting and trying to get an audited uh get our audited numbers together and and and all the things we were talking about then um anything I would add Ethan because I feel like the question kind of for me I feel like there's clarity around the budget and if the board felt strongly about this was a budget that they could support and get behind I'm with Carl that if voters are coming out due to democracy would make sense to piggyback on that primary if possible um I just think that's worth you guys considering and there's time to pull this off I mean we got the we got the but you guys you know you made you may decide that you don't like the prior budget or the current proposal Ethan are there potential proposed changes that you're thinking about in terms of your reasoning for waiting or what would be your reason for waiting no I just it's always me asking sort of the you know made the dumb obvious question but um it was raised as a a possibility at the last meeting that there was no rush um I I think all these are very good reasons what Amy and Carl have said about piggybacking getting it done giving our our principles the security so I'm just asking the the you know the hypothetical question um but I think it's a very good idea and I think we should go ahead and and vote on August 11th. Hey Ethan this is Megan speaking um I'd like to say I do think we should move forward with the revised budget because it does give our voters you know a chance to see that you know savings have been made with what we're intending to do with the high school building this year it might be a helpful to just move ahead and try to piggyback on the election in August. Thank you. Thank you Megan. Um as Jenny waited I would agree I'm not quite sure um unless there were any changes that we know that we would be making I'm not sure why we would want to weigh in agree for all the other reasons okay um you know I think do we need a motion should we move it um sure so I think what we would first need to do is we would need to I would entertain a motion that we approve the revised budget in an amount of where can I have so many windows open um Carl make sure you do the budget amount and the per people spending amount in the notes right right well the first thing we have to do is we have to approve the the revised budget so we have an approved budget to put into a warning and then when we do the warning is where we have to say the the per people spending amount correct you want it in your minutes too all right I have the budget expenditure of four million three hundred and seventy one thousand nine hundred and fifty dollars with a pure per pupil spending of eighteen thousand seven hundred and fifty five dollars and fifty four cents which is x point xx percent higher do we know that piece it is uh one point oh four percent higher in Rochester and point 34 percent higher in Stockbridge but I don't believe that those are right that's there's a different number yeah there's a different number that you have to get it from I don't have that it's not on that shoot not on the tax note no um no that wouldn't be on that cheat Carl okay so we can't so does that mean without without knowing that number we can't warn this budget today no you don't you don't need to approve the percentage of increase increase you only need to approve the the actual budget number and the per pupil spending you don't need to know the percentage beautiful um that motion yep it's so moved I think we made the motion correct okay is there a second yes I second it uh a motion has been made and seconded to approve a uh budget in the amount of four million three hundred and seventy one thousand nine hundred and fifty dollars which results in a per pupil spending cost of uh eighteen thousand seven hundred and fifty five dollars and fifty four cents uh any further discussion all those in favor signify by saying aye aye aye Megan aye the motion is passed unanimously out five to zero no abstentions um we would then now need to move to the warning um and so for this I would love Lori to jump back in the election hours for 10 to 7 it is Stockbridge town offices and Rochester high school is that is is that all correct well I don't know what the Rochester is is doing um the town the town office the polling place will be open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. so it is 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. we're not doing the 10 a.m. correct correct so then we'll pick you back on those hours and Bonnie said it's it's the high school so we'll we'll do that as well thank you so much Lori yep you're on thank you for being on the call Carl just the election of a new school board member does that need to happen at that meeting or is that independent that is that independent we'll talk about that in uh in the next item but that is that is a board appointment that is not an election um if someone if I mean in the past if someone has resigned you know we had someone resign uh in January before an election we we we were able to get them onto the into the booklet onto the warning um or get the position onto the warning to have it at the regular annual meeting um and so the board went for that six weeks without having a person there but it is not you know the the bylaws it's it's an appointed position so we'll we'll we'll discuss how that how that's handled in a minute so I would entertain a motion to approve a warning uh for the special meeting or for the special election of the Rochester Stockbridge Unified School District uh reading the legal voters of the Rochester Stockbridge Unified School District comprised of the voters of the town of Rochester and Stockbridge in accordance with section three and four of act 92 220 adjourned session are hereby notified and warned to meet on august 11th 2020 at Rochester High School Auditorium in Rochester and Stockbridge Town Offices and Stockbridge beginning beginning at seven o'clock a.m. when the polls will open and ending at seven o'clock p.m. when the polls will close to vote by Australian ballot to transact the following business shall the voters of the school district afford the uh approve the school board to expend the three million seventy could you read that number again Jenny I'm sorry I have the warning open I can't have the other document the budget number yes uh four million that the one with four million right three hundred and seventy one five forty four nine nine fifty four million three hundred and seventy one thousand nine hundred and fifty with a per pupil spending cost of eighteen thousand seven hundred and fifty five dollars and fifty four cents excellent thank you which is the uh which is the educate which uh which of if approval approve the education spending in that amount the legal voters are further notified that voter qualification registration absentee voting registered the sub meeting shall be provided as in chapter 706 you have title 16 and chapters 43 51 and 55 of title 17 Vermont statues annotated and act 92 2019 20 adjourned session dated uh dated at July 14th from uh delayed it dated at Stockbridge Vermont this 14th day of July 2020 uh I would entertain a motion some of I would entertain a second second uh a warning is on the table to approve a budget and a vote uh as listed previously for August 11th in the amount uh in the amount uh previously noted all those in favor signify by saying aye aye even aye aye uh the the motion carries unanimously five to zero thank you everybody we have an election scheduled thank you guys uh now we move to 4.3 the uh the the Stockbridge vacant board position and I'm going to pull up the note from our attorney about that so I make sure that I say everything properly um so uh our bylaws allow what a resignation happens that um the board will appoint the board will appoint a uh a uh a replacement representative to serve out that that person's term um Janie's term is the 2021 one I think Janie's uh expires next year because I think we just re-elected Jenny for three years last year that is incorrect I am up next year oh so then uh this is then Janie is up in uh 2022 um the uh appointment has to be has to be a Stockbridge person because our our bylaws say that three represents three representatives are residents of Stockbridge three representatives are residents of Rochester so we have to appoint a Stockbridge resident uh in the past um we've either you know we've either had particular candidates that have uh you know expressed interest we've uh when when a person has has left the board they've uh they've recruited their replacement um and the board has interviewed that person and brought them in or uh what the board has also done is the board has put forth a uh a link on the school website or in this case it'd be on the board website that provides a relative primer you know uh a primer information on on the roles and responsibilities of being a school board member um we put that out there we uh tell the public to reach out to us uh for a certain window window of time we've had informational interviews and then those inter in informational interviews were discussed in executive session at a regular board meeting so if we followed that precedent what we'd be doing is we'd be we'd be putting out uh we'd be sending Ray um a collection of what we think are some relative uh some relevant um links and information uh on the VSBA website uh around what it's what what what it's like to what it's about to be a board member um and we would uh solicit people to write to us we would set up uh uh conversations with them and then we would have a meeting about that does that Paula does that procedure work for people or do people have different ideas that works for me that's fine yeah it's fine for me yeah i know that the the procedure when janey came on board it sounds like this is consistent when when janey initially came on and as well when i first came on yeah and you know i think uh you know i i i think it's you know it's more i think of just an informational discussion than it is a a job interview or at least if you recall your conversation it was much more let us tell you what you're getting into versus the versus some sort of litmus test litmus test or something like that so okay i will i will put that together um and if anyone has any references uh bonnie in particular as someone who spent a long time on the board you know if there's if there's some links that you think are really really good let let me know and we'll we'll get that hopefully posted in the next next day or so okay available available um just i did share with a couple people who are interested the essential duties uh page from the um vermont school board association cool already that's already out there to a couple people who ask yeah and that's i mean and ethan that's exactly what we've done in the past we we said you know there there's an opening we meet these days here's our you know here's some some information contact the board if you if you'd like to to be considered uh then car like this we had a chat and then we talked about it do we have a timeline is this our next regularly scheduled board meeting being the august i'd like us to do so we would make we would go into executive session by august and make a decision on that at that meeting right right assuming that assuming that you know we we've had reasonable interest you know and then the procedure unfolds as we expect um yeah i think we i think we need to get it done carl there is a really good document called the essential work of school boards that is online so we could just reference that and if anybody wanted to look at that they could certainly do that yeah yeah i think last i think when we did it before there were like two or three links that we put on the web page but i'll i'll i'll look at that okay i agree it's you know that that is a really good that it is a really good uh a starter you know if here's what you're getting into kind of kind of thing um okay does anyone else have anything to say about the vacant board position okay let's move on to uh the uh rochester uh high school building i can just add that i've put fuelers out and i'm working on uh both in the tech department but also i had a contact from my prior supervisory union around references that who we could look to get to gather information on how to best shudder that building in a uh fiscally responsible way but also to preserve it appropriately so i just wanted to update you on that great uh thank you so much does anyone else have any questions uh uh for jamie around that okay uh we've already taken our action items on call let me just sorry go ahead because it came up at the uh select board meeting um i i i had a conversation with the white revalid our dick and Dorothy robson of the white revalid players about our person what we were planning and uh they were they were fine with it they they were like we don't own this space uh we support you in what you're doing just take people are concerned about the players um they are been informed directly and know the know that we're we're we're changing things up a bit okay great thank you ethan uh and now actually it's 4.5 which is your item you wanted to discuss questionnaires yeah it's uh uh i don't know we've we've given a lot of lip service to this um and maybe we wait until after the election but i really think we should start collecting questions that we want to put out to our public um to our our two towns um there's some very clear direction that i think we're we're heading in some ways but i think in other ways and i just i i would i would love to start collecting what we think are the good questions that should be addressed by our communities um i know we were going to have a specialist help us and all these kind of things but uh i think we can just do it and and and get it done i think people have been referencing in some of the social media they've been referencing questionnaires that went out during the merger time and i think it's time to update maybe some of those questions and um i know we have a few of our own um and we can figure out a way to do it but i just think it's money very well spent to get a tenor of where we are and where people are um about our schools uh the certainly point taken anyone have any comments on that i think it's a great idea i know it's a cumbersome work but i think it's a a good way to hear all voices and not just the you know ones that are maybe posting on uh facebook and or ones that are attending meetings but we can really hear from from all all voices of parents and all community members that's a great idea i agree i know there were surveys by both towns prior to the merge they didn't have the same questions on them and either the town but i think i agree that i think it would be good and i'm willing to help put something together um we could do something virtual a google form as well if that's more convenient for people yeah i i think that i think a google form is a is a is a great idea i think we would want to collect a registered voters name with that just to you know just to make sure that we're we're trying to get a serious a serious collection of data i think though how do we i i i want to know or what i would be interested in knowing is what are the questions that our constituents want answered you know i i wonder sometimes you know as we come up with the questions we see the things that we're thinking about and you know as has been evidenced from some of our meetings that sometimes the things that we're thinking about are not things that our towns people are thinking about so is there a way that we can maybe solicit some some input you know from our our constituents you know maybe maybe have people send questions to jenny or or something or things they wanted to ask about and she could maybe try to condense that down into i mean is there do you think there's value in that or is that just making the process i think it's innovative and well thought out yeah i think that's a great idea carl yeah i think that sounds good i'm fine to take take input and narrow it down okay so i'm happy to talk with you about this because it's sort of my idea if you'd be the lead person on this i would appreciate but i'm happy to support you i will support you too jenny sounds good thank you we can we can think about the best way to i mean maybe just you know maybe putting something out on on you know not to start with the social media page is saying hey you know we're we're soliciting questions from this window to that window and give them a time frame to to get some information and give you an opportunity to to shape that um because yeah i think that you know we we we we're long overdue for for getting some some community feedback um carl if i just could say one thing to jenny jenny there's a there's a tool that the superintendent over here uses to both answer questions and solicit what questions should be asked i don't know the name but i will find that out for you and i'll let you know what it is yeah i i vaguely recall you mentioning that in the past okay oh so it's it's it's kind of like an an interactive forum feedback kind of yeah something like that it's pretty it's pretty good actually but i will let jenny decide if it's something she wants to use but i'll just make sure that she gets it oh that would be great because yeah i think that's i think that's uh you know not having to reinvent the wheel and not having to have jenny you know cover her wall with post-it notes and strings connected involving a serial killer case would be great all right um okay anything else uh around questionnaires i would just encourage you to make it um accessible i think a lot of people access social media and the internet but not everybody in both communities does as we've learned through our lovely distance learning experience so just make sure there's some sort of plan i i hate saying this without a suggestion of how people can whether you want them to call the school and leave a message with what their question is and we relay it to you jenny um but just make sure people know that they they don't feel comfortable using email don't have access to it there's a way for them to get their question and their voice heard okay that would be great when you guys were up for that possibly even possibly even a drop box right i mean it can drop box that you could write jenny you and i know about ways to do that but i think it's just we need to make it known that we want to reach everybody and not just those who have access to certain forms of technology i think the herald and um front page forum would be a good idea too okay yeah no that's that that's a really a really good good good point lindy and if you could if you could help collect those calls i mean is that how how did how did you guys manage that in the day you know how did you close that that contact loop in the distance learning issues you were having for us it was a small we had the list so we know um who to make sure to reach out to in different ways we scheduled pickup times we uh they happened to be getting lunch so we were able to exchange information with lunch delivery all those things i'm not sure that necessarily works for a community member who may not have kids in the school but we can definitely put information out there and i think like megan said we might have to put it in the newspaper and maybe post at some town offices or some public places i i don't be open to ideas of where to post it but okay what sort of timeline do you think we should be looking at for submitting questions i'd like i it'd be great if we could try to be collecting the information that's sort of like a back to school survey so we could be collecting the questions between now and say mid august and be able to to then condense them down into something you know coherent and cohesive um for a you know labor dayish sort of roll out you know the the whole because that's when people are thinking about back to school once going on right i don't know here's another thought i know there's certain distances and requirements that we have to keep but we could also have those surveys available uh the day of the primary the day of the election and just hand out a survey and ask folks if they would if they would uh take it home fill it out and return it to us i mean that's another way of getting the survey into people's hands unless they actually fill it out right then we can't guarantee they'll return it but we can get it into more people's hands do we think that's a doable i mean today's the 14th so we'd have to be you know turning that around you know by the end of the month well you know i mean this would be i'm assuming something this that we can just we don't need to get printed we can do xerox that'll be it'd be a short turnaround but just a thought yeah it'd be great question by the end of july if we did that yeah i don't know when you're you know when you guys are going camping or what you guys are doing this summer or yeah i think that that's um i think that's doable okay think about think about it and reach out to us like tomorrow or or thursday if it's not i don't want to put you on the spot of here by the way we're now telling you organize a major survey for our two towns in two weeks so i think about it but it should be okay i mean we don't want it too complicated that we have too many questions and people aren't going to respond but i think that that's doable we're gonna i think i think we're gonna know pretty well um um what the key questions are i think they're gonna be pretty obvious to us and i just ask that you run it by us too just so we have a awareness of what you're asking oh yeah we'll send it around i'll send and just so i realize i apologize carl i meant to ask this during the discussion of the budget are you looking for a one pager to go out in a mailer yes postcard for g hud that i've shared with stacy and that we're moving forward with it you want me to organize something and share it yeah that'd be great we we definitely we definitely need to have some sort of some sort of basic a basic mailer that at least conveys um you know i think it would probably need to show the new warning it would probably need to show the page the the new tax page and maybe a paragraph a paragraph or two you know of explanatory text of you know why we're doing it when we're voting so on and so forth ethan you worked on the last one is that true you're muted ethan uh i didn't work on the design more than i did on getting it out amy's the real male i did for it yeah i'm just looking for who wants to work with me on it just so i got another set of eyes yeah dude can we do 11 by 17 copying there so we can print print something and fold it that's the cheapest way is definitely have a what if it's one sheet and fold it with on the sheet having the um address on one section of it you know i don't know if we could fit all the information on one page then you don't need not paying for envelopes and um yeah i'll i'll like i don't mind being part of part of it and try to figure out what would be the best for us getting this information out and what you know what we need to get out for information yeah yeah so if you could review work with jamie on that be great excellent all right so does that answer your question jamie are we good now beautiful thank you sir um okay we are now going to go into public comment um uh the way this is going to work is the way we've done this before which is we will go down the the list of phone numbers by phone number um we will give each each number an opportunity to unmute um you need to identify yourself and whether you're a rock bridge a rock bridge a stock bridge or a rock tester voter and then make your comment it needs to be uh around the revised budget the warning the board position uh the the the brief discussion of the building um you know the bed it needs to be germane to the to the agenda that we discussed tonight um comments by bylaw are limited to one comment per uh for member of the public and they are limited to five minutes if we do have time however we will uh we will go back around and try to to to solicit additional uh comments from people that depends on on how long the process uh takes carl yes if you have to leave at eight how do you want to proceed I was actually I was actually going to say if you want to if you want to uh take over calling on people for me so that would be great okay there we go here 30 okay and you so Ethan go ahead you have the floor um you want me to do you want to start now and do it okay yeah i figured it'd be consistent rather than rather than uh i've got um uh i'm going to go down my list which starts with Beth Dolly if you'd like to make a comment um yes this is Beth Dolly I'm in Stockbridge um I think I'm good thank you Ethan you're muted again Ethan Phelps if you'd like to make a comment please I have no comment tonight thank you thank you moving down Janet Whitaker Janet Whitaker do you have a comment to make tonight okay now hearing some I'm going to move on Karen Rubin do you have a comment to make tonight no I do not thank you Karen moving down uh uh number with area code 443 entering in stars um uh 15 do you have a comment to make tonight star six I see yeah star six join mute thank you Jamie for the reminder if you have a comment that's area code 443 ending in 15 that's 38 okay I'm going to move on area code 774 ending in 59 if you have a comment please star six to unmute and please if everyone else could stay muted until I recognize you this is Irene Sintas if you could just clarify for me the board position will be appointed but people can express an interest in it is that is that what I understand yes yes I think we're open I believe we're open to anyone who is a stock bridge resident who is interested express that interest to us and we will consider them okay all right thank you you're welcome I believe I'm 802 ending in 06 please star six to make a comment and 77459 if you could please mute please again star six after your comment uh 802 ending in 11 star six to make your comment please hi this is Lori Scott um I just just a quick update for it for you all on the board the state is embarking on a huge absentee ballot campaign for both the primary and the general election so as we are going to have the the school election on the same day as the primary just need to be mindful of there could be a lot of absentee ballot requests so we'll need to have as much information on the ballot or whatever as soon as possible Lori I don't know if anybody asked you this before I didn't see it in any information do you have an idea of how many absentee ballots you've already put out just out of curiosity about about 10 percent of all the registered voters so far and that's in the first week okay thank you okay thank you thank you uh thank you hey hey Ethan this is mech Megan speaking just really quickly um just for don't forget that deb matthews is no longer an employee so she's oh thank you very much sorry forgive me yeah no no no kush deb absolutely forgive me um it's so used to seeing your name there uh do you have a comment to make tonight um no actually bill and I are on this call together and um I appreciate being able to be a community member and listen and participate thank you welcome to your new role congratulations all right this is what I'm going to need I think I did 19 uh 38 is that Lori 802 ending in 38 was that you Lori hi it's Keith in Stockbridge oh Keith's got you thank you yeah could you go ahead with your comment please sure first I'm going to be very interested in throwing my ring my hat in the ring for to be part of the board but I do have a couple of questions or clarifications um I noticed when it comes to the high school building the board has made it very clear that the high school will not be used for educational purposes however I've heard you know some comments about using it for theater groups uh for voting purposes and I was curious now that this building is part of the Rochester Stockbridge uh union why is it being utilized for Rochester purposes and I guess the follow-up question is to that is who's paying for the heating the electrical the insurance when it comes to casualty and liability for the building while it's being used for purposes other than educational purposes uh Bonnie could you address that or do you think that's sorry go ahead Bonnie no I was just going to say right off the top my head a couple of quick things um the board we had agreed the board had agreed to use it for voting because it allowed a safe way to vote in person um I don't know of any theater groups that are using it or planning on using it Keith I don't have any anything like that on the building use calendar the only thing I know of that's going to be in there is voting and in the parking lot we're having the uh food drop offs other than that I know of no use uh community use of any sort in high school okay so the board the board's willing to commit that the building will not be utilized for any purpose not just educational purposes but for any purpose uh is that correct then Keith let let let me jump in here for for a second Ethan we have broadly the school the school district has has a public use building policies for both buildings so for example um there the building has been rented out for a Suzuki uh institute and for for a summer week it's been used for community uh community suppers and hunter breakfasts in Stockbridge um it's been used for uh um the Stockbridge Church as a parent has occasionally used it to have to have uh uh you know non-religious meals but use it as a as a gathering place for the kitchen um similar building uses have been had in in in uh Rochester there's a fee that goes with that and that includes uh covering a cost of of cleaning um and you know it's it's you know whether it's the Boy Scouts or or or or an election or whatever there's always there always has been a community policy in place for for buildings on both campuses okay so then if the Rochester community or a town board elects to purchase the building for a dollar that means that if the school district wanted to utilize it for educational purposes the same courtesy would be afforded to them at no cost am i correct i can't really speak to an agreement that hasn't been decided but i would imagine there'd be some sort of reciprocal use agreement it's you know it's we did it did now be a public building that we'd be using just like um we make arrangements to use uh pierce hall this the swimming pool at uh vtc or the pierce hall when they do the starting night concert yeah but we need to have agreements in place so we know what we're getting into can i just can i just remind you that we've just started a process and that we are still in the same situation we have been except for this new commitment of no educational use for the school year but other than that we still have a building and it's still there and ed we've already made agreements about it being used for the election which we aren't going to back out on right now so but in fairness it's been three years now and there are still questions that are being raised and we need answers i hear you not promises not quite not committees you need to have answers to these questions and we are working on that maybe you can work for three years show me some results where are you give me details give me you know a written statement of where you are uh we're about to meet uh with the Rochester select board okay and is anybody and it was raised earlier when you guys were in um executive committee is there anybody from Stockbridge uh select select board that's going to be sitting in on this meeting so they can hear what's going on or is this just a Rochester select board you have two two elected representatives on the Stockbridge board on this board i believe i believe that we discussed that when the meeting would be with the select board that would be a joint meeting between the select board and the board but full school board and Stockbridge or just the select board of Rochester and the school board says i don't see why the Stockbridge select board would be in part of this agreement or meeting what would be in that meeting because they represent office of community so do your two elected school board members yes but i think i i question you know that is your opinion and you are welcome to it i hear you thank you welcome to it yes okay i really think you need to move this forward and you're putting forth another budget basically the same budget with the hopes of what it was voted down overwhelmingly by Stockbridge mm-hmm and you're putting forth the same budget you're reducing it by twenty thousand dollars which is less than one half of one percent of over four million dollars in a very small community good is that are you done with your comment i i guess i am because it apparently pulls on deaf ears no we hear you we hear your comment we believe we're taking action right now and we believe it's substantive act substantive action if you don't agree we hear that i don't agree and i think the community also does not agree very good well thank you for your comment uh we're down to i believe 80244 uh star six if you would like to comment very good moving on 802 uh ending in six seven do you have a comment star six to comment please what phone number i'm using i have 13 lines here at work oh i'm i'm guessing it i'm just going to jump in if you don't mind no that's fine uh i'm also six seven at the end oh let's do six seven first and then we'll get to you join if that's okay i don't know which one is the you calling um let's try let's let's go with six seven please minus six seven two can you say the whole number please yes 802 um and then it's it's out there it's just started to us except for the last two digits um then the final two digits are six seven okay mine that's mine and same so there's two six seven okay go ahead with the other lady please i'll be next all right um my question my i have a comment about the questionnaire the the questionnaire that we had before talked about questions for the town of stockbridge like uh first choice what would you prefer um and the answer was uh keep school in stockbridge second was um school choice and um that was important for i believe a lot of the community people to have a voice in that but if the questions are the same for both towns and and i guess they have to be um well we know what the communities of each town are looking for i would think maybe we jenny and maybe this is a suggestion that we should keep some well i think we can have one question right at the beginning that asks what what town people are from um we can summarize to some degree by town but i think that when it gets to the details of summarizing we don't want to get ourselves into too many you know how many in this specific demographic answered this way to a specific question but i think if we have one question where we simply ask what town they're from if there's certain questions that we wanted to find a subgroup of that we could do that and also with the questionnaire i think there was a lot of um a lot of people that were not given the questionnaire the last time i think it should maybe be connected with the vote so that we know that one person has one vote and that they are actual voters in town so is there a way we can piggyback the questionnaire with the vote well that depends jenny whether you feel like you're able to get this out well i think that would depend on the timing of when you know when the ballots go out um i'd have to kind of know when the ballots would go out before um being able to know if that's something that could be done in time for that i see it's like a month away right yes the vote would be august 11th and i'm not sure when absentee ballots would start to go out but we would have to look at that timeline well maybe at least have them available at the voting places maybe they wouldn't be available for people that do um the other type of voting maybe it would just be people that go to the voting um right and bonnie had mentioned that and i think that um you know we'll have to take a look at the timeline but i think that we could probably have it at at the august 11th you know have the survey there for people if they wanted to fill it out there and then put it in a box or or send it in after right but that whole send it in after photocopies get made and i just think it should be very careful you know how these are done that's my that is my um comment and if there's a second round i have a different question so i'll wait good thank you john um i confess i'm a little lost to where we are in the numbers because they keep moving up i'm sorry sorry six seven now let's go up back up to yola it's yola labesa from rochester um the other six seven um okay so please um i apologize uh in advance if uh whatever i'm saying um i will say has been covered already i i had to go to a library board meeting so i just joined in uh so this is my this is my question um i've been going to all the um at the time of the merger i mean i've been going to all the meetings but i do not remember and so please um um i will um forgive me if i if that um that was already discussed at the time of the merger the original merger between starboard and rochester has the decision to uh decision for the high school building not to be utilized was made was it made at that time was it and was emotion made was it documented that uh that high school building will not be utilized for educational reason no i don't believe so okay so this okay so if it wasn't that's what i thought i just wanted clarification out there oh go ahead yeah so if it wasn't so this is new then and it's because you know we all believe it's because of the taxes and the cost of maintenance of the high school building however if this town of rochester agrees to buy it uh is it possible for the town of rochester to um or for the school board to have a stipulation and ask the town of rochester to lease um that south side or north side i'm like south side um to the school so we can keep on using our wonderful auditorium and the art room music room and i this is some being biased a little bit in that part but you know the after school program uh i wrote an email to to the school board saying how and again but our after school program i believe is wonderful we have a tremendous support from the administration and school board and and the community and uh like i said we are one of the the only side that had no violations if we move to the elementary school building which is already cramped is going to be with more so the art and music and and and all of the other activities that took place so far in the high school building it's not going to be possible it's not it's not going to be the same i mean it i know it's not going to be the same and people are saying starbridge has the same it's a multi-purpose room but it's been going on for years we have to start and now especially after caught with the pandemic how are we going to keep this one room clean and disinfected for lunches and then the castellates will have to wait for the after school program to end at six o'clock and then come back and clean everything we clean but the floors will they'll have to wait for the floors and everything it's just such a such a such a awful i mean not an awful such an overwhelming project and uh yes so um so um my question is okay about the uh select board and also like if the uh select board the Rochester town buys it the uh starbridge select board okay so it's not going to be the maintenance and and stuff like that it's not going to be in the school's budget correct the maintenance of uh uh yola i have to tell you i can't really discuss any of the details okay i understand no i understand because like the gentleman who said that this starbridge um you know it's i don't believe that um you know the Rochester that it'll be owned allegedly i mean hopefully it might be owned by the town of Rochester so that i from the way i understand it the taxes all the maintenance and stuff would be paid by the town not by the school board by the school so that would be a totally different budget and the town of starbridge would not have you know any uh burden let's say you know for that so that's that's that's that's all i'm sorry i can't really comment as i said i can't really comment on yeah no i understand but my main question was in my comment i do hear your comment and we do hear your comment yeah and and this decision had not been made was not made at the time of the merger so this is so like yeah and i think this is the important point no it's not the decision wasn't made at the merger but there's been several several discussions that throughout the last year plus at all of our public meetings okay well i made my comment okay thank you i there there is a there is disagreement about the interpretation of our articles of agreement okay and i think that's that that is part of um part of the issue here that it is some people can say definitively on both sides because of some vagaries in the articles of agreement um why would ever agree yeah i can't i can't really talk about that agreement any farther right now good thank you i respect like you know just to close it i respect my opinions you know and i i will go with whatever is best for all okay thank you thank you uh i think i'm at star three eight eight of two hey yeah i'm sorry you might want to ask people to mute themselves after they've done public comment yes that's a good idea if you could please mute yourself after you've done your public comment so we don't get interference with the next caller um eight or two uh three eight have you spoken already you're welcome to comment star six done mute yeah hi it's Keith i have spoken okay sorry i got you thank you uh star seven four star six to unmute if you have a comment and can i'm i'm sorry it's hard to keep track of these numbers because i keep moving around all the time hey even maybe hello sorry this is this is kary mcdonnell you had called my number um a while back but i was not not able to respond at that time okay go for it now kary that's fine well i think the um questionnaire is a great idea um i do think that the way you craft it is important and thinking about how to ask what's the word maybe probing questions i mean i think if you i i think we're at a point where we need to have really candid and probably tough conversations um as a community and and as a board um and i know you know questions that were asked in the past to stockbridge or rochester you know if you ask a question like do you want would you rather have um maintain your own building have school choice combine with rochester if you ask a flat question like that you're going to get a pretty flat answer um and so i i'm just thinking that if we can um ask those questions in a in a way by giving some amount of information i mean i think that it would be really important before you answer that question to know for example what would it cost if we put all 130 kids in one building what would our tax rate look like then i mean i know those are really hard questions and hard conversations to have and i think all of us are avoiding them but i don't i don't think we can afford to do that i think looking at different configurations um you know possibly having like a k2 and stockbridge a a 356 a 3456 in rochester i mean i don't know a lot about the budget but i can tell you if we had a single classroom teacher for every grade we would automatically save the cost of one teacher and that's without any combining whatsoever um and you would be in a classroom in rochester which could be utilized for art and music these are hard conversations to have but i think we need to be having them um and i hope that whoever crafts the questionnaire can somehow develop questions that allow people to answer them um in a way that really reveals the information we're trying to seek if that makes sense thank you thank you for your comment star six seven eight or two star six seven do you have a comment to mix we go i'm sorry i'm yep i'm messing up again six eight no you've already done those ones i think you're down to nine one now nine one thank you it's uh and then maybe she's asked if anybody didn't get a chance nine nine one eight or two nine one star six to unmute hi eve and this is katelyn mckintzery from stockbridge katelyn so i have four questions do you want me to ask one at a time and let you answer them each or just give you all four at one um i would say prioritize give us your top okay two um and if we do a second round um we'll get to this next two that's sound fair okay so uh it sounds like now there's only two representatives on the board genie's gone so we're going to go a two to three ratio of stockbridge to rochester representatives many community members don't feel that the stockbridge members that are on the board have outwardly represented us you know i've spoken to several people about this um so when you guys go meet we're not going to have an extra board when you go meet to discuss the high school building we're not going to have a third person there to represent us um and is that true um it's just going to be an empty spot until the next one it all all depends yes it all depends on when that meeting gets scheduled and so i as being i've been directed i'll have to talk to the select board and and decide i think yeah that's that's about all i can tell you about that because it's an executive session but yes you're right if it happens before our next meeting in august we will be down a board member but it's the time in august um and of course that won't be an approval meeting that will be you know that that's something down the line of ways so i would say that major action would happen after you had um your full strength of three three members okay so theoretically if it's before we have that third member would you would the board school board be willing to meet or reach out to our select board to see if one of them would like to go just to at least observe and represent and be a voice a third voice for Stockbridge i'm i'm not sure jamie could you jamie could you speak to me i would consult with legal counsel in my sense is that that would not be advised okay okay so um my second question um i'll that i'll use for now and all that's the other two the other round um if you're going to have these questionnaires some Stockbridge and broadchester if the outcomes are different than each other if both towns want completely different things how are you as a board going to reconcile that well i imagine i don't know i i imagine we're going to get all kinds of different information from all kinds of different people um and we'll have to um come together and i would hope that we were present the results of that um and present present whether they were a Stockbridge because all the questions would be answered and i think having an ask asking the question of whether it's a Stockbridge or Rochester voter at the top we would have some idea of where this is coming from um i hope to be very transparent with the questions and answers um and not and not you know be secretive oh this is this is the tendency here the tendency there um uh i i that brings up the question of how do you get the information out of how people are answering if they're answering in like you know paragraphs and and sentences like that um you know whether right but for what i'm saying it's for example the surveys that went out before the merger to prioritize what people wanted clearly many Rochester people are for all the children merging to Rochester and the Stockbridge people are very very for keeping our school or having school choice so how are we going to reconcile those two drastically different well i think i think we will choose questions that will get to the heart of whether that is still the case um i don't remember that being the case but if if you've looked at the questionnaires and you probably know um um but i that's a question i would very much like to know and we'll take that information in hey i don't think omega go ahead yeah i'm sorry i was i i helped with the Rochester survey last time and those surveys were done prior to the study committee forming so those are there was never a question on anyone's survey about combining with Rochester in one building i just want to put that out there that that's that's never been approached in a forum okay i i don't know what was asked in Rochester i just know what people have told me that we're on priorities for Stockbridge i'm gathering that information because there seems to be a lot of Rochester residents as well as a lot of Stockbridge residents that grew up in Rochester that are very for merging the schools and that's what a lot of people from Rochester and currently live in Rochester felt that they were voting for for the merger is so eventually we would all merge into one school which is the exact opposite of what Stockbridge voted for those members here go ahead jenny i remember correctly Megan the Rochester survey with Tuesday was prior to potentially start um merging with Stockbridge the Rochester survey included information about potentially merging with um that's a Royalton and it also included um getting input about potentially merging with Randolph yeah we had it was a very wide scope and it just ends if Caitlyn's referring to people she's seen on social media they're talking about what they voted on because i'm seeing it those are Stockbridge residents i also think that the point here is that we this is the reason for the questionnaire going out now is that i think we need an absolute fresh take on these questions so that we're not dealing with guessing or wondering what these questions were like or when they came out we're the board now we want you know we we know the questions we're curious on the questions we want to hear the answers i'm very open to all the answers that come into me um uh i'm also very aware of the realities so um i'm i'm i'm eager for it and i hope you know you and other people who do really commit to being on board meetings and stuff like that will help to get a broad range of people responding because i think that word of mouth is going to help get this questionnaire um responded to um better than better than almost anything else okay and i just for the end of this round of comments i just want to say to Megan that those who are posting from Stockbridge have a tie went to the high school in Rochester so there is an emotional tie so they aren't objective from a Stockbridge point of view agree but they are Stockbridge residents some that grew up in Rochester good thank you can me can we move on please yep that's where i was gonna do i was gonna do that Amy just try to help you out no thank you i appreciate star 97 do you have a comment can you hear me now yes uh could you identify yourself please so this is charity colton um so uh and some stock bridge correct uh well to clarify Megan's comment i currently live in Stockbridge i'm a Stockbridge taxpayer but i grew up and have lineage in Rochester so just to clarify that um so he had mentioned earlier that there was a sorry uh Caitlyn Caitlyn could you please mute oh scary thank you uh can tear you can can you please can you hear me yes thank you please go ahead so Keith had mentioned earlier that there was a question asked about the real estate option and i'm asking you to divulge any of that information i would like to clarify that i asked my question is at what point in time or if it is going to happen at what point in time would that option be presented to the taxpayers so that they are aware of what the option is how it would impact the budget moving forward and the functionality of the new look for lack of a better way to say it because my concern is that in the past as you yourself mentioned Ethan there is some dispute over understanding how things will happen moving forward decisions have been made both have been cast but there was not a clear path moving forward with proper documentation and i agree with everyone that part of that was because at 46 got rolled out and forced upon a lot of schools and towns so for this particular situation how and when will the taxpayers on both sides get to see what that option is and how it will make make things look moving forward and impact us or is it just going to be a board decision and we get no choice or no absolutely not um uh uh i i think we just need to take these questions under advisement right now okay thank you thank you thank you and i'm fine with that answer as long as it is posed to the full board and the legal representation of this real estate option whether it moves forward or not so that it's represented that this is a valid question out there that people want to know very much i've heard you now i've been taking notes thank you guys this is jayme can only the superintendent i'm taking notes and we're certainly consult with legal already from the last one i have is nine nine nine nine yes that's the last one i have star nine nine do you have a comment or is that i thought that was joanne i have a comment with kim robertson from stackbridge oh sorry yes kim sorry thank you come on uh please have your comment thank you that's right thank you um uh i just want you know this whole thing about you appointing a board member i'm hoping that um instead of a voting um i'm hoping that you guys take into consideration that there are people who are um who don't see eye to eye with all the board members in stackbridge and that we would like someone from who has maybe different opinions to be on the board to voice all the opinions of the stackbridge people and i think by you appointing one versus voting for one which is illegal i would hope that you would take the stackbridge residents into consideration and have someone who made you with the different opinions as yourself someone who has voiced the opposite so that we do have a um representation on the board that's all i have to say thank you all right thank you for your comment um i believe we've gone through all the way is there anyone who did not get to comment in this round please um uh and star seven four if you would mute yourself please is that kim is that you star six so not hearing anyone who has not spoken um i would take a quick round of second go if anybody has a second question hi this is keeping stackbridge again okay i have a question can you tell me what the school board's definition is of a um consolidated district well they're all different um you know i think jamie could speak to that um i don't i'm dealing with the district we have between two schools two campuses one school that's been that's been our definition um from early on two two campuses one school well i'm just trying to figure out you know when everybody voted on you know consolidating the districts which is i get it um what that really means to everybody i mean we still now have two schools that have two co-principals that have teachers that still teach the same grades at both schools uh multiple buildings um so i'm just trying to figure out what consolidation meant when you guys put it forward to a vote for the constituents in this community and the Rochester community both communities to vote on i'm just i'm confused i just don't have a a real feel for what consolidation meant megan would you like to speak to this at all just because you were part of that process but if not we can just hear the comment and move on i can't i mean the consolidation in act 46 had a lot of different implications um i think that's all i'm really going to say but that's just hiding behind act 46 i wanted to know on an individual basis from the people who are on the board right now this is this i gave him to them it's too much so i did i did i did give you my answer which was um two two campuses one school and that is what we were really not an answer but it is it's saying that the that the focus should be around educating students equally in both places um that we have two administrators that were working that's that was the model we came up with um that was our consolidation model now whether it's been successful or whether it's going to be successful going forward those are open questions uh a merger is not made in one vote no i understand that a merger is ongoing process so that um that that could change and evolve over time and that's what we're learning and that's what we're working through and that's where the hard questions are useful um because we're figuring out what a merger is but i'm just trying to follow up and and i want to see that the children are educated to the best of our ability and i want to make sure the funds that we are utilizing are applied properly and i'm not so sure having multiple campuses multiple principals multiple teachers i think you can do better for our students i agree with you it's all about the children it definitely is there's no doubt that the kids come first and the board has to find out are they doing the best for the children totally agree that's all i have to say good thank you kate this is kary mcdonnell i have one more comment that kind of goes along with that um i guess my thought is is that i think we're going to get through this building issue hopefully the town will be our savior here and we'll be able to figure out um the building issue i guess what i'm concerned about is what the next issue will be um i think that we do have very divided communities i think you as a board have you have worked well together and i really applaud you and your yep hello am i cutting in and out i believe you are i think you're cutting i'm cutting in and out no kary you're flying kary this is kary this is fun yeah go ahead be talking i'm cutting in and out okay all right sorry um yeah i just think that um we need to think about how our communities can come together and more authentic ways and and i see you as a board working really well together but i see that our communities are still very divided and and i don't know if that can ever be resolved if we're essentially operating two separate schools on two separate campuses and i i want to be clear here i have no interest whatsoever to see a school like stockbridge a school that clearly is very well loved by the community close like that's not my agenda i just am wondering what um how we are going to what's the next phase for this um for this marriage as Ethan put it um i i think that we are going to be stumbling over every challenge along the way if we continue to be um the separate communities that we are so just want to put that out there thank you kary thank you any further comments hi even add myself please um i have two numbers going up 997 and 91 uh 97 would you have an extra comment yes this is charity colton um sort of to add to what kary said um you know kary has done very well things eloquently out on social media asking really difficult questions and i might not be on the same opinion side as her but it's been kept civil um one of the things about all of this is as i mentioned in my earlier comment we all got thrust into this very quickly very abruptly without the state doing what i consider due diligence to do a lot of the forethought in this and i think a piece of the puzzle that's not being looked at is that at some point all the different sides and this goes at the su level for new jamie as well um it goes at the board level and at the community level at some point in time there's going to have to be double duty part of the duty is going to be looking at how do we start moving forward proactively and unfortunately because of the way this has all been thrust upon everyone it's going to still happen while we're working reactively to all of this and i don't think that there's going to be a good smooth motion forward until you find the balance of where those two are going to meet and how do those two duties find their meeting place and start doing the two things together it's not going to be easy it's going to be difficult there's going to be people outside and it's why there's such animosity and frustration going on with all of this so i don't know how to best do that because i'm not on the board i don't have time to be on the board so i try to sit in on this end as much as i can but as kary mentioned those hard questions have to be asked and i apologize jenny i'm going to throw you under the bus jenny did take part in doing the stock bridge survey when it happened and it was during the 706 study phase of things with rochester and she did a phenomenal job at trying to phrase things in a way so that it could be answered but still have an opinion that's separate for the various options and i think that's what you're going to have to do is ask those really hard questions and allow for answers that are not going to be popular and until you get all of that together figure out what your proactive move is to work with your reactive position we're going to be stuck in this situation forever and it's just going to keep lingering that's all i have to say i would like to respond in one way and that is i think we're incredibly fortunate that we have really good administrators who manage to keep the daily life of school going on despite how we all may disagree or have to be working out our issues and i think that's the way it should be let us be the adults working this out person to person in these meetings um and let the school do be out of that realm and and do the best it can that's certainly my goal um but you're absolutely right we need to ask some very tough questions good any for anyone else to make a final comment before we close out i think this is kaitlyn with chemistry so my two questions were that i have left are is the board considering having or needing more often um to try to move this process along or are you keeping just the one-to-month and the occasional special meeting um well if you've been looking at how many often special meetings we've been having over these last several months you see we're we're ending up it's not being scheduled necessarily but we're ending up have needing more meetings it's certainly been recommended before by other board members i think it's something that we need to look at if if that's the amount of work we feel we have to get done um so it's certainly not stable and um my second question was and this kind of helps carry this question or charities questions excuse me um is the building committee ever going to be called back so that we can get those financial answers so they can crunch those hard numbers are is the board going to call the building meeting again or is that just kind of a dead horse it's not going to happen again i would i personally i this is my personal opinion i would like to see some finality out of that i'm not on that board um it is um so i um i would i can't answer i can't answer you that i would certainly like to see some finality and some final report from that board thank you any further comments i just would like to this is doing and i'd just like to clarify that article six six b says that no elementary school shall be closed without a unanimous vote of the unified board of school directors and an affirmative town in which it is located so i think that that says a lot to Stockbridge it might give us a little feeling of protection um and i would like to tell Keith that he can find all of this information on the White River Valley Supervisory Union site and the articles of agreement are there in case anybody is interested in joining the board and then they can um uh look that all up before they do that's all i wanted to say thank you great thank you Joanne this is Keith i'm more than happy to look those up and i still would love to join the board because i think you need to have a um different opinion on how we should proceed so i will certainly look those up and i'm most interested in uh continuing this conversation very good thank you there being no further comments um public discussion will be closed i would entertain a motion to adjourn is that so moved so moved seconded seconded thank you Megan all in favor signify by saying i because i'm a former time moderator hi very good thank you this meeting has been closed and our next scheduled meeting uh public meeting will be our august i believe it's august fourth is that correct amy i believe that's correct correct thank you jamie and thank you all for being part of the board to be on the meeting tonight good night i thank you all


They're extremely high in emotional connection. They know how to connect with people. They know how to form like teamwork. They're terribly diplomatic, social standing. They are actually able to project that. They're able to manage those relationships, okay? They can actually guide and steer these things appropriately, all right? Honest, then on the last one, they also have the ability to have an intimate connection to develop a really strong grounding in reality and connection with individuals. So what you have here are people that trigger high emotional triggers, and based on that, based on meeting your emotional needs, people are gonna be tempted to develop a relationship with you. There's a temptation here. Equally as important, there's a psychological response. These are people that know how to meet your psychological needs. And a lot of people are not complete. A lot of people are damaged. A lot of people have voids. These people will fill that void. Intentionally or not, they know how to do it. They naturally do it. When people sit down and say, they complete me, that's what they're talking about. These people will actually trigger have an emotional response, and you'll actually want to potentially have a relationship with them because they meet your psychological needs. Lastly, and this is an interesting one, they also meet your intellectual needs. There are a number of people who are incredibly intelligent. And when you share valued ideas, when there's a tremendous connection based on shared values, shared ideas, again, you'll likely want to have a relationship with these individuals. So many cases in our society, we see people who are, we have the have relationships that we may not quite understand, but they're answering this solution. They're answering those questions. Who do we have in the lower right? These people are the direct opposite. These guys are all biological responses.  These are gorgeous individuals. They're pretty, all right? They have social standing. They have all the characteristics of wealth, fame, success, and they exude it. How they dress, how they act, how they stand. Not only that, they're constantly sexual. They exude sexuality, whether they try to or not. They just exude it. Now, let's go to the very bottom over here. What do you think the bottom looks like? These folks here, we're gonna say no immediately. These people exist, all right? They're incredibly low on the social scale, incredibly low on the biological scale. These are God's children. These people need help. They need our compassion. These people are real, all right? For our purposes, when we talk about the sexual marketplaces, we don't go here. This is a protected class of people, all right? In a very real sense. In many ways, they're legally protected. These are people that are not able to enter in contracts and are not mentally able to. They're just not functional in a way in which we anticipate. Based on that, we're gonna protect these people. For the course of this talk and the rest of your lives, we don't go here, all right? Now, in contrast to that, who are these folks? They got it all, don't they? They've got all the biological markers, they have all the social markers. This is the human ideal. This is who we wanna be. These are people we wanna look for, and we wanna as role models, and we wanna aspire to this. There it is. All right? Somewhere within this matrix, within this field, each of you exist. I do too. But I want each of you to do not right now. Don't call it out loud. This is a very personal thing. Put yourself here. Where are you right now? Hold that in your mind. As we go through this presentation, it may shift based on some of the things we talk about. You may wanna change that, but you should have a general idea where you exist. Now, if you really wanna get technical, rate yourself on the three elements of survival, provision, and seduction. Where do you scale on that and divide by three and get an average? Do the same thing on the other side. How is your relationship skills leveled? How's your relationship management skills leveled? How are you able to foster and maintain a relationship? Do you have those skills? Divide by three, pick an average, and the combination of the two will be a vector point. Pretty precise, but there are purposes we really don't care. You just need to know roughly where you're at. I happen to rate this from one to 10. It can be a hundred. I don't really care. Just get a sense of the scale and magnitude as we talk about this. Now, as we go forward, I'd like to talk a little bit more about the zones. It's not just the isolations of the outliers. I actually wanna talk about major areas that we can actually talk about. One of the most famous and really popular is this. It's the friend zone. We've been talking about this all weekend, haven't we? All right. What do we know about the friend zone? Everybody here is below the sex threshold. See that dash yellow line in the vertical area? They are below the sex threshold.   That's true. All right. The other thing that we know is that they are below the level on a number of cases of the, not only just the sex threshold, but physically, they don't look the part. We know somebody who's out of control. We know somebody who's just not physically a specimen of the human species we wanna put forward. They know it. Not only that, on a social level, they don't have the social skills available as well. They are not projecting those elements of worth and value and standing within our society. All right. The third one is sexually. Sexually, they have no ability to understand the signals of attraction. They neither understand the reception. They don't understand it when it's projected to them. They have no command of being able to project that out. Okay. These are IOIs, indicators of interest. And furthermore, they lack an ability to escalate. All right. These are people that cannot escalate sexually, physically. Okay.  All right. They cannot execute. There's a cost to be paid here. The worst part about it, if you're here, you're here because you wanna be. You're putting yourself here. That's a sad thing. Let's go to my next favorite one. Douchebags and party girls. All right. This is the opposite end of it. This is the opposite end of it. The difference is these people are getting laid.  They're having sex for a reason. All right. Just like the people over there in the friends zone are not getting laid for a reason. These people are getting laid for a reason. All right. And I'm not saying that's the ultimate objective, but there's a tremendous amount of validation that comes with that. All right. They're all above the sexual threshold. But something that needs to be very clearly articulated here. Something that's gonna kind of slip by very, very quickly. Is when we look at the people that exist here, emptiness and charm. Okay, and this is what it is. Emptiness and charm. These people are terribly charming, but not very virtuous. Emptiness and charm is associated with what personality types? Sociopath. Sociopaths and psychopaths. Say it again. Sociopaths and psychopaths.  I'm not kidding. These are dangerous individuals.  Be very careful here. We'll come back to this. All right. Furthermore, these people are unable or unwilling to make social connections. They either don't know how or God forbid are unable to. And if they're unable to, they are genetically damaged. And these people exist. They're amongst us. Not here today, but they're out there. Be wary of this. There are monsters in this world and they exist and they look and act just like us. Beyond that, they also don't have an ability to exercise control of themselves. They can't help themselves. They actually can't help themselves. Doesn't justify what they do, but they can't help themselves. All right. Crazy will do what crazy's gotta do. All right. You can't deny crazy. Crazy will not be denied. That's the worst part about it. It's like the truth. It reveals itself. Crazy will reveal itself.  Listen and pay attention. It's not just that. See it for what it is. These are scary things. They really are. But this is a little bit of the lay of the land. All right. I happen to like this picture a little bit better. Now we're talking this big area right in here. That's the dating zone. It is the largest zone in this map. And it should be. I think most of us should be datable. I think most of us should be of a level in which we should be inside this zone. This is where we wanna be. All right. It's pretty straightforward. It's considerable difference between social and personal values. It'll fluctuate. I wanna recognize this. I know these are hard lines, but they fluctuate. They will fluctuate. A little nebulous. But I don't wanna focus too much on that. Just recognize that your individual circles may be different than mine. That's okay. But generally, this is what we're talking about. All right. And we want to kind of be in this area. We should be in this area. This is the natural condition of mankind. This is where men and women belong. All right. If not, there's something wrong. Ultimately though, oops, wrong way. Ultimately though, I wanna have everybody kind of head up here. This is relationship potential. This is marriage potential.  I don't think it's necessarily smart. I think you should be shooting for here. This is a sweet spot up here. All right. Again, when we talk about the human ideal, we're gonna gravitate towards that. This is a lot more readily achievable than the human ideal.  This is relationship and marriage potential. These are the people you should be looking at. These are the people you should be committing yourself to. I will say this now. These are virtuous individuals. Hire on the social scale, all right.  Think about that for a minute. You commit outside of this range. You are not honoring virtue. You are not a virtuous individual. You can't say and think you're virtuous when you're acting counter to that. And you know it. You know it every time you do it. You can't escape yourself.  I'm here to tell you it's wrong. I'm here to tell you you deserve better. And you should have better. That you have to do it for yourself. Oops, I'm going to go. This is another zone. This is a terribly important one. It's a combination of two areas.  We refer to them as creepy and awkward. These are obstacles within our map. This is, these are obstacles. These are topography in the realm of the sexual marketplace. We need to understand that they exist. And they exist because of incongruent behavior. Come on the stage my man. Awesome, introducing you. And I can't wait to watch what you got. My name is Socrates. And I am here to champion a cause. It is a cause and also a pathway that has been terribly degraded and demised in recent times. It is also a pathway and a destination that I hope changes in our society. But at this time in life, in where we live, it is immensely a dangerous environment. And I don't mean it facetiously. I mean it is terribly a risky endeavor. I'm not talking about a, we know somebody who's out of control. We know somebody who's just not physically a specimen of the human species we want to put forward. They know it. Not only that, on a social level, they don't have the social skills available as well. They are not projecting those elements of worth and value and standing within our society. That's true. Not quite true. This is a hot or not scale. This is why I know that hot or not isn't the only criteria. We have four different individuals lined up here. And their sole response for getting a relationship, for finding what they want, marriage in this case, they apply what skills if your only game you have is how hot, or you are, you're going to be pushing this vector right here. That's awesome. They're going to be hotter, they're more desirable, everything else. Problem is only these individuals are actually relationship potentials. This is when you're getting tempted to date these people. These people here, nobody wants to be in a relationship with them and they're not. There's a harsh reality here. The markets are responding. If you're not in a relationship and you're just focused on beauty and attraction, you're not going to get here. You can't get there by doing this. You're going to highly amplify your physical presence. All right, think about that for a second. You're going to highly amplify your physical being. Then you're going to act in a hyper-dominant way. Traditionally, this is the traditional form. Not only that, you're going to get aggressive sexually. Let's put all that together really quick. Over-amplify your physical presence, getting socially dominant and aggressive and sexually domineering with people that are not dialed in socially. Anybody see a problem happening here? Anybody see a train wreck? Our shoes held it. It's not just a train wreck. Let's talk about their clientele. What are you going through?  You really don't care about what ends up happening there. You actually care about your experience. What are you going to go through? You're going to go through initially a very creepy phase.   Okay? Just being honest. Now nice, there's a degree of a preview here. See that? Enjoy it. That is beautiful.  You just need to be more beautiful. Remember that sliding bar? You just need to be more beautiful. Not virtuous, more beautiful. What do the women magazines push? Beauty or virtue? Product, that's right. They're not pushing virtue.   I'm talking to you. All right? What do you do?  Really? You need to focus on virtue and learn those skills and apply those skills. Otherwise, you're here. Let's take it a step further. Let's talk about the guys now. Average guy.