Hello everyone. Hi. Hi. Welcome to our, can you believe this is our fourth and final Hacktoberfeps update of 2023. This is the fourth Thursday in a row. I can't believe we're almost at the end of the month. But how are you guys doing today? Good. We're very festive today. Good. That's great. So once again, we have some new people joining us. So over there we have, at the far left, right, left, right, depending on which part of your, your left, left, left on the screen. Yeah. Left. Is David, David Weinberg, who's been doing some work. So we're, he's going to show off what he's been doing. And hiding below who will join us about halfway through is Murray Maloney, who's going to show off some stuff on the WikiTree browser extension. And just like last week, I promised that we would give the WikiTree browser extension some more airtime because we've been woefully neglecting it these past three weeks. So we're going to rectify that issue very shortly. But anyways, Sandy and Alessia and Jamie are here as always to help out and give some, some thoughts and reactions. So that is great. So where do we want to start Jamie? So we start with the word. Oh, yes, because we were allowed to give away a free t-shirt. So we have to, if you type a special word in and what is the word going to be? What's the word going to be? Anyone? Anyone? Hacktoberfest, right? Hacktober. Sandy is going to be our official giver aware. So I was waiting for her to let everyone know. Hacktober is the word. If you type that into the comments, if you're watching this live, those who are watching the replay, sorry, but he signed up for a weekday and registered for that. There's other free giveaways you can be eligible for. But for today, for right now, type in Hacktober and it doesn't matter whether it's a capital H or not, right, Sandy? It's correct. Case insensitive. As long as you spell it in the same way, then we're fine. And then halfway through, Sandy will pick a lucky winner and you can pick a t-shirt. So good stuff. Thank you for reminding me of that, Jamie.  Oh, yeah. So we are going to start with the tree apps today. Riel made some updates to both the ancestor lines explorer and the CC7 views. So I'll show those off because he's not here. And then David will show off what he's been working on on the stats app. So I will start off with the ancestor lines explorer. Let me share my screen. Okay, is it sharing it? Okay. Do you guys see that? You're up. Okay. Yeah. So and if someone could post to the test tree in, so it shows up on the screen. I'll do that if you want. Yeah. So the ancestor lines explorer, I'm going to get tenant generations. So Riel added a couple of pretty cool features. The first is that he added statistics up at the top. So there was something similar to this in the brick walls app, which would tell you how many possible ancestors there are in the number of generations you chose, how many have wiki tree profiles, and then how many occur more than once. So how many duplicates? And then the other cool thing he did is he added options to choose or so you could like choose to highlight certain things. So if you want to highlight people with no parents, you can choose that and it will highlight it. You can also highlight the people that have bio check issues. So you can see that I have a few in this to see what the bio check issues are. You either choose alt click or you press alt and click on the circle or if you have a Mac it's option click. So that's pretty cool. So yeah. So those are the new features for ancestor lines explorer. And then he also added some new things for the cc7 views. So he added the statistics to the cc7 views as well, the same that are on ancestor lines explorer. And then he also added some new features for the missing family option. So you can choose like who you want to see when you choose the missing family option. So let's say I just want to see people with no parents or only one parent. So I can choose that and you can see that it only shows the people that are missing a parent. So I can work on those people. And I think I think that's it. That's great. That's a lot. You know we've been using this a lot for rock as well to really get the numbers up for those who are being rocked this month. This has been a go to app. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely helpful. And by rock you mean our awk random acts of wikitry kindness in case people wondering who we throwing rocks at. I mean it is hopefully not that computer screens. No. And we're not talking about Charlie Brown getting a rock in his hand, you know his goodie bag. But no. Yeah, that's good. Oh neat. So are we ready? Are we going to go on to David? David. Excellent. David, you're ready for your big time? It's not my dog. Okay, take it away, David. Okay, he's muted himself probably to get his dog under control. It's not Finnegan. It's not, it's not when he's just sleeping here. Yeah, this is in the back too. Oh, that's Bertie. Can we just switch to? Yeah. Excellent. So, yeah, I've been making a few changes to predict where it's due. This was originally Jane's app. So I've just sort of taken it step further, added a few bits to it. So the things I've added, there's a similar to you were saying about the changes wheels made. I've got a total profiles column, which I split it out from the sort of profiles with birth year. And again, so that's showing the stats I'm showing at the moment is for the later Queen Elizabeth II. Just assume she'd have plenty data. So we've got the total profiles. You can see all the way back up to her third great-grandparents all the way on Wixie Tree. Then by the fourth part, it's sort of there's a few missing. But actually the quality of them all the way to the third great-grandparents, all of them have got birth years 58 of those. So 56, 58 ended have got a birth year for the seventh generation, et cetera. Other things we've added. So I've added in a average marriage age, which is something that we're being asked for on G2G posts. You can see the age that they got married. And interesting, I thought Greg would like this. There's a lot of 25s. Oh, look at all those 25s, all those five stories. Yeah. And as I'm looking at this, I'm thinking I really will make some changes to the generation then, because at the moment, all it's doing is just showing the difference between this number and the one before it. So from 1926 to 1898 is 28 years. But it's not accurately showing because it seems to be showing that what I'd like to show is the age at which the first child was born on average for that generation. I can't imagine back in the 1700s they were not having a child till they were 34. So I think it might be a little bit out. Below, I tweaked it a little bit. So we've now got the oldest ancestor that was already there. Then you've got when it's showing all the old genders, the oldest male and the oldest female. So the late Queen's oldest ancestors. I'm thinking I'll suggest it's later. What was the term I thought? Eldest living or some, no, longest life, that was it, longest. Might make it clearer that they lived 91 years, which was longer than anybody else. So that's at the bottom. And then finally, what we've got is a drop down for the genders. So you can now choose as people are asking for the oldest male, also for the stats, just for the males. You can see the numbers of change, the marriage age, we can see is a bit different. And that shows just Carl at the bottom, only looking at males now. And then the females, likewise, you can see loads up the stats. And there's a slight treat to Greg, if you like. I've got Greg's profile loaded up. So I wonder if there's any stats here that sort of you didn't know. Well, you can, the first thing I noticed is, and that one of the things I was wondering about is in the total profiles, is there a way, was there a way to differentiate the maternal to the paternal? Because the maternal side, for me, is French Canadian, and it goes way back. But my paternal stops in Ireland and Scotland, which is nearly as well developed. And you can see that easily from the sixth to the seventh generation there. Yeah. Yeah, the numbers drop off, don't they? Oh, yeah. It doesn't actually show, but as far as you can tell. Yeah. And then if we try, if you do that, males only, it's not the male line, it's male profiles. Oh, okay. I see. If you want to compare your fathers and mothers lines, then you should start with them. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, you will have the parents profile in there, and then obviously you'll see the difference. Right. So that's your stats for the males. Neat. Your oldest male relative was once, I feel like you now, missing up names. Plus one, but E. Yeah, to 95 years old. Now, he is just the oldest up to the tenth generation. Right. He's not the oldest. Of those displayed. Yeah. That's right. Mine. If we go to the female side, the oldest female is Marie-Angèle Navasseur, who lived up to 98. So nice old age. Yeah. You can also see sort of the average lifespan. It will then show you just the male men in the family, just the women in the family. And the reason I said all genders before is because the gender sort of does have the option of being their blank. So all male only, female only. So any blanks included in the alls, if there are any. Are there many of those? I mean, I know there's newborns who are, like, who pass away right away, aren't often recorded with genders sometimes. Okay. It's interesting. But I don't know, but would there be many ancestors? Or like, yeah, obviously, they would. Well, if they, if the young, it's very young, they're not your ancestors. No, exactly. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Certainly not that young. Yeah. Okay. But I think that's probably all I've got to show you now. That's great. Okay. Excellent. Isn't that exciting, Jamie? Someone took your idea and just ran it. I love someone's finally improving it because it's been a while since I've done anything with it. I understand. Yes. That's great. So if you haven't typed October yet, now is the time because we are switching. I don't think we have anything else about the apps. I can tell you that I have, as a quick update, for all of those who were concerned about me and my yellow sticky notes from last week, I have upgraded, I have upgraded from sticky notes to actually programming and I've made some really good progress today. My ancestors part and the descendants part all work perfectly, but all of my cousins apparently are all single parents. So I have to get that. I have to fix that bug because I mean some might be, but most are not. Do they know that? No. And since I'm ninth cousin from a lot of you, yeah, sorry. Anyways, I'll fix that logic error, but that's not newsworthy really. I'm just giving filler while people type in October so that Sandy can give away the prize. Jocat. Hacktober has a K in it the way we've spelled it. So you want to type that again before we do the draw. Hacktober, H-A-C-K-T-O-B-E-R. Give Jocat a second or two, but let's go ahead and draw. Okay, this is exciting. I know this is exciting. Jocat, there we go. Oh, Jocat. Yeah, from the Netherlands. That's great. So Jocat. Do they get a Hacktober shirt? Well, they get a t-shirt and so Hacktoberfest would be the logical option for them to choose, but I think they get to choose. So Jocat, what you have to do is you have to email A-O-N and someone can type A-O-N at, I will type it in, A-O-N at wikitree.com into the chat, but that's not where I want to get there. Someone put it there. Yeah, email A-O-N and she will line you up with your prize. So I think without further ado, let's now turn our attention over to the Wikitree browser extension and give it all the love that it deserves. Yes. So I'm going to do just a quick intro on how to install it and choose features to test. This is mostly for people that want to test out the features. So let me share my screen again. Okay. Is it sharing yet? I can see it. Okay. So the first thing you want to do is go to the Wikitree browser extension space page. So you can do that by going to help search if you, or if someone wants to show the link on the screen. But yeah, you can type in like browser extension, go there. And because the space page is constantly being updated by Murray, we just link to it from the help page. So you get this really detailed, amazing help page for it. But you want to click on installation. And if you're testing the new features, so like the ones that are being done during Hacktoberfest, you want to install the preview version. So since I'm using Chrome, I'm going to click on that. And it's going to take me to the Chrome Web Store. And so you just click on the button add to Chrome. And it will do a pop up warning that will let you know that it will be able to read and change data on wikitree.com and also can read and modify data that you copy and paste. But like, don't worry about this. It's mostly just so features like we're not stealing any of your data, like all the code is open so you can see it. And, you know, the features are added by wikitree. So you don't have to worry too much about it. So if just click add extension, and it will install it and it will pop up the help page. And it will also pop up the settings page. So the settings, well, the first thing you probably want to do is up at the top of your browser. There usually is a little extension thing. And you probably want to pin it to the top of your browser just so you have easy access to it. Because you probably, if you click on the icon, it will send you to the settings page. And you probably will want to update settings as you're testing or using it. So the settings page, there's a whole lot of options to choose from. Anything that's green means it's turned on. And there's quite a few features that are turned on by default. So if you're testing, you may want to turn off all of them up at the top and then turn things on one by one just to see what you want. So I'm going to show you an example of one of the features. So here's, without any features turned on, here is a profile of one of my great grandparents, great, great, great, something grandparents. And so let's say I want the distance and relationship feature turned on. So I click this button. And then when I refresh the page, you can see that the feature popped up. And it says that she is my second great grandmother. So yeah, so that's basically how you install this extension and how you turn on features that you want to test. And on the space page, if you have, if you find a bug or if you want to give a recommendation for a new feature, you can click on this testing and feedback section and it will tell you where to post or you could post a comment on this page. So I have a question. What's the timeline of publishing preview version? Because the official one is usually at the beginning of the month, right? Yeah. Yeah. So at the beginning of the month, the stable version is updated with all the features that have been added the previous month. Preview version, Ian is very quick. So sometimes, so usually it's basically as soon as it's approved, it gets put into the preview version and it just depends on how long it takes for the various stores to accept it. But usually it's like, it's that day or that hour. Yeah, Ian. A few times per month, probably. Yeah, sometimes it's probably multiple times a day even sometimes. So yeah, it's very quick. So if you want the most up-to-date wikichu browser extension features, the preview version is the way to go. Otherwise... But time think might not work, right? Yeah, definitely. Like if you want something that works well, I mean, the preview version usually works well, but there could be bugs because there's like new features all the time being added. And the stable version actually does have updates too, but not to features, but like bug fixes and stuff like that. So yeah, that is intro to the browser. Oh, and I wanted to mention that on wikitree day, which is November 5th, Murray and Greg are going to do two different live casts about the extension. So I'll let Greg talk a little bit more about that. So at 10 o'clock on Sunday morning, eastern time, eastern standard time, because we, in North America, we go back an hour. The first workshop will be a how to install and get wikichu browser extension set up. So basically everything that Jamie did, but maybe just a little bit slower going into actually step by step. And my plan is to actually show that with a few different browsers so that everyone can follow along. So if you're, for people who are nervous or have never done this before and aren't quite so sure, we're going to take it slowly. And that'll be the first one. And we'll talk about some of the basic settings in that. Let me get that working. And then the second one, starting at noon eastern standard time, Murray will be taking us through more of a deep dive. It's not, we're not going to call it a deep dive because there's so many features. A deep dive would take multiple hours. So a good tour of the features. And so including some of the stuff that he's going to show today, but today he's going to show us specifically stuff that has been worked on during October Fest. So Murray, I'm going to bring you to the stage. Well, one quick thing before Murray starts is Kay asked if we should disable the stable version when using the preview version. And yes, only have one of them running. Otherwise things could get weird. You get three sets of buttons. Yes, that's right. Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Kay. That's a good point there. So at the bottom of your screen, the tiny little preview is there next to me right over there. Right over there is Murray. Say hi, Murray is Murray. He's waving at us. So Murray has done this amazing free space page for the wiki2 browser extension. He also helped me out with the fan chart and he's starting one of my October Fest app as well. And I'm very excited to welcome him to officially to the wiki3 livecast family. So take it away, Murray. And when you want me to change my screen, show my screen. Just let me know. Okay. So hi, everybody. So today we want to just tell you about some of the features that have been added in October. And so those are the category filter, the category table, the editor expander, the editor font size, the CC7 changes. There was a table editor that was added just at the end of September or beginning of October. So it's in the stable version, but it hasn't got any coverage yet. And then there's some changes that Riel made in the change family list. So if you're not familiar, well, actually, Jamie just showed you, this is how you set things up. And you pick things that you want to work on your web browser extension, which ones you don't. And so we go through here and we find that there's a bunch of stuff going on. And let me just find, where's the editor? Even though I work on all this documentation, I still have trouble finding things. So for example, here's the editor expander. And of course, there's lots of other features, the category filters and category table are here. And so now what I'll do is I'll show you some examples of how those work. And what we're going to start with is the category table. So here's a category. This is the category for the town of Perse in Quebec and the Gaspé Peninsula. And this is a small profile. It has 46 people in it. And what I'm going to show you is, right now, is that we've got a few buttons here that we can use to find other people that are in this category. So we're going to start with the unconnected button. So here we can see that there are four people. Emmanuel Jumeau is an example. He has, we don't know who his parents are. And he was a recollect brother and priest. So we don't believe that he was ever married or had any children. So he's completely disconnected. Similarly for Cretia Leclerre, who was a priest. For Pierre Le Basque, we don't know who his relatives might be. And the same for Pierre Ballot. So that's fine.  We can also see the profiles. You don't have a profile manager. So there's two profiles there. We can see them. We can identify who is missing parents. And we can do something like, tell me all the people who were born before 1700. Well, that's cool. Show me all the people who were born in Perse. So those are the, there's a variety of search things that you can do. But basically, if the information is available on the screen, as you see it, you can filter on it and reduce your list. So for example, I'm going to. This is filtering only by the text displayed on the category page. Exactly. Okay. And so for, so here we have the Boisele family. And now I'm going to get rid of that. And I'm going to show you the table. These are two separate features. And I mentioned that because once the table's up, now if I go back up here to this text filter and type in Boisele, having any effect at all on the table, what it is having an effect on is the list. So if I want to have an effect on the table, I'm going to go to the last name at birth. And there I have the Boisele family. Now I've got, I can show the family and let me show you, there's more information here. Maybe there's not more information there. More information here. Oh, yeah, showing the created and edited date. Okay. And then we can also see the status of the, of the profile that this one's open. Okay. I think I've covered, oh, oh, and sorry, I didn't, there's one thing I didn't show. So let me get rid of Boisele. Get it in the wrong place. There. Okay. Now this button over here only unconnected. That applies to the table, not the list. So if I go to press only unconnected, then we get to see those same four people that were, that we did in the list. And actually let's, let's do it in the list too. Because this is actually a bug that got fixed last night. Okay. Last night, the list showed four people, but the table only showed two. Hmm. And can you guess why? Unconnected. Because Labask and LaClaire have a space in their name. Oh, no. Yeah. So there's, there's this weird stuff that Ian has to do to sometimes to, you know, to figure out who's who and what's what. Anyway, so there's your, there's your, your category filter and category table. Wow. So next I'm going to go to the edit and, oh, I'm missing something here. I had the editor. Oh, I know what's happening. Okay. The editor apparently is not working in the, in the space pages. Oh, right. Okay. Apparently it only works in the, in the profiles. So I'm sure Ian's watching this and he'll, he'll hear about that and fix it tomorrow. So the editor expander, you just click on that and boom, you've got a, you've got a pop up window that gives you more space to work in.  So I think that's pretty cool. That is very cool. And then you just hit your escape button and you're out of there and back to where you were. So then while we're in here, if we go into the biography tab and say wiki table wizard. So now it'll let, it'll let me create a table. Now I could have, you see up here it says paste table or list. So if I had grabbed a table from somewhere, copied an Excel spreadsheet table or copied the tables from some web page somewhere, I could just paste it in here and, and away we go. We can add rows and add columns. So I can, this is my, should have done this as a list. You should be able to leave a name to selling. Oh yeah. That's a good question. Great. And so there it has generated the code for a table. Oh, okay. Let's copy it now. Now I can escape from there and paste it in. Now I'm going to preview that table and there it is. Now, if you haven't guessed yet, this table is from a Christmas card that I received one year. Oh is it? Yeah. So when you opened up the card, it said no L. No L. So you look at the alphabet and the five by matrix and you think, well, there must be a letter missing. Anyway, so that's the table editor. And so now once I'm here, I can go back into that table and go to the wizard and it picks up the table. So you just had to have your cursor somewhere in the middle of the table and it figured it out. Exactly. Because I could have more than one table in the profile. So just put the cursor in the table I want to edit. Exactly. Does it have problems if you have links to other profiles in the fields and so on? Let's find out. Ian, are you watching? Are you there in the chat? Should I put in a link or a URL? Let's do both. Let's try one of each. Yeah, why not? Problematic, I think. Put a link right here. Show it up there. Escape from this. I have to paste it. There it is. Okay, so let's see what happens. Looks good. Let's edit. Does it seem to have any problems? Go back to edit. Yep. And if we... Oh, you want me to go back into the editor? Yeah. Okay. Cool. It's still there. Okay. That's usually the problematic part because the pipes are all over the place and... You can also, you can establish that the first row is going to be a header, which means it's going to make it bold. You can set it to be full width. You can adjust the border widths and cell paddings. Nice. You can also say that the table will be sortable. Oh, I love that. And that it will be a wiki table. Okay, what does that mean? Well, wiki tables are treated specially by one of Ian's other features, which... Let me try to remember. So that's the one that makes things sortable just by recognition of the fact that it's a wiki table. There's a G to G post about this that K did, if I remember. And it talks about the class that equals sortable and class equals wiki table. And beyond that, I don't remember all the details. Oh, and you can add a caption. Nice. Murray, will this work if I have had an existing table? Say I added a table to a page two years ago. Yep, sure. I don't see any reason why not. The only thing that... Well, so when Ian undertook this, I was a little bit worried about it because, I've worked for editor companies in the past, and tables can be a real problem. And you can get a lot of feature creep into tables. So Ian took the simple approach, which I really appreciate. This is not a fancy table editor. It doesn't try to do spans. It doesn't try to do sophisticated things. This is your basic table editor. And because it's a basic table editor, it's easy to describe and it's easy to work with. I think that if it gets much more complex than this, it's going to be... It'll make it hard to work with. But yes, if you have an existing table, it should be able to edit it. And as I said, if you've got stuff in a spreadsheet, you can just go to your spreadsheet, copy rows and columns, and bring it over here, and press paste to table or list, and it'll pop it into place. The trick with the pasting the list is that you want to make sure that you've got all your rows and columns, you've got the right number of rows and columns. Right. They have to be equal. Yeah. And then once you paste in, then it'll just pop the values in. And the list is basically comma separated values. All right. So that's the table editor. And now I'm going to delete that draft and return to the profile without saving. Because I want to show you this feature that you're not showing the screen.  What am I doing? I think you stopped sharing. Okay. I don't know how I did that, but... My guess is you clicked stop share. It was probably hiding where the X was in the window. Oh, maybe. Okay. Yeah. There we go. So here's an enhancement to the change family list. So let me just review that. Go back over here. If you go to profile, there is this change family list. And you've got quite a number of options with change family list. So one of them is moving it to the right-hand column, which I've done in this case, putting a heading on it, making it a vertical list as opposed to a horizontal list, like we normally have on the main side, reordering some stuff, etc. What he's added is adding the age differences with the siblings and children and adding the ages of the parents. So let's go back and just see that. So over here, we can see that François Bocell was born in about 1682, and her father was about 41 when she was born. Her mother was about 36. François herself was the fourth born. And we can see that her eldest brother was about 12 years older than her. She also had a younger brother who was about six years younger than her. Her husband, Pierre, was about 11 years older than her. And her child, Marianne, was born when she was about 26. And if I hover over one of these, it tells me Claude Bocell was born about 12 years before François. If I hover over her father, Noël Bocell was about 41 when François was born. So this is a nice little feature. All right, so we've done the categories. We've done the editor. We've done the table editor. We've done the family list. So what's left is CC7 changes. So and then so we're going to switch over to but basically in the find menu, you now have this button CC7 changes. And I'm just going to. Ready for me to click on it? Just a moment. Okay. So the first time you press CC7 changes, the app is going to go and get some information. It's not going to tell you anything because it doesn't know anything yet. What it's going to do is it's going to get your current list of CC7. The next time you press it, it's going to compare your current list with the list that you previously saved and it's going to give you some information. So here we can see that at one point I did that and it told me that I had added Sarah Wishart and I had subsequently added a few other people and it shows me those. Now, Jamie and Jamie and Greg both mentioned earlier that sometimes there are bugs and right now we're actually at Ian is actually struggling with an issue with the CC7. And it's partly my fault because the first time I ran CC7, I wasn't logged into the app server. And because I wasn't logged into the app server, it wasn't able to collect the information about a whole bunch of profiles that are connected to me that are private non-members. And so when it subsequently checked the list to compare against it, it thought that those and I was logged in, it thought those people had been added recently when in fact they haven't. And the result is that I end up with a list that has living people on it that I don't want to show. But Greg has kindly offered to do that and so I am going to hide my screen now and let Greg take over and show you what happens when he presses the CC7. So I've got this here to block the pop-up so I don't show some living people by mistake and then I will strategically reveal the pop-up. But here it goes. That's my low-tech solution for this high-tech problem. So I'm going to click on the CC7 changes and there's the waving tree and there it goes. Now let's see. It's popping up and it's going to say add it within the last month. Oh wait a second. Where's the one that I added today? I added two today and they should have showed up. No, but you press, so what happens is the first time you press the button after you've made a change it'll show that you just added those recently. The next time you do it it moves it into another list which is added within the last month. But there's two there that I just added while I added an hour and a half ago. So they should have been, they should show up, right? Let me try it again. Anyway, but don't worry about that. That's a small detail. Yeah, oh well. Anyways, so these are the list of people that have been there for a while. Yeah, so just like you had said, the first time it's not recognized as the two new ones I added. So Ian has made a change in the last couple of days. So now it won't let you run CC7 unless you're logged into the app server. Oh, so you think that might be the issue. But those of us who ran it once before that was in place may have some stuff in our... Anyway, he's going to get that sorted out. Yeah, sorry about that. So this is in the preview version and yeah, back to that question about preview versions and stable versions. So the stable version came out at the beginning of the month. There will be a new stable version at the beginning of November. We are currently at version 13 of the preview versions. So there have been 13 releases through the month. 13? Well, that's a perfect number for October, isn't it? But you can't stop now. I mean, October is not done yet, so there's probably still going to be a few more, right? I think there'll be some bug fixes. There might be some bug fixes. Yeah, I didn't think to log into the app server when I opened up Safari this morning. Yeah, so sorry about that. I was all ready to show off that. Oh well. But you did show that your screen where it showed those two pages, those two entries. So people can just... Hopefully everybody understands how it works and... Yeah, that's right. Yeah, sounds good. Excellent. Sorry about the glare, by the way. No, no, that's no problem at all. That's great. Okay, Sandy, have you found anything this week in your travel through Wikitree land? We have, and it's actually something that Murray just showed and is regarding the categories. Okay. Do we have... Can somebody show their screen or I can show one? Let me bring mine up real quick. I have Arlington National Cemetery category up, pretty large. So the questions that we kind of have, let me just refresh. That's weird. Okay. I'm not touching it. It's not me. That's not either. The questions that I have and some of us have here regarding these that unconnected the orphan and the missing parent. So the first thing that I think that is really kind of important to note, if I click this unconnected button, it's only showing me the first page, not all. And I noticed that a lot of people assume that when they click that unconnected it's showing the 2,606 plus profiles, but it's not. So you would do page by page to find it. It's probably too taxing for the database. Yeah, yeah, we definitely, that's sort of why like the My Connections thing also only does that one page. It's just because of server resources. And then the other question, can these stack, can I find on this page an unconnected orphan that has a missing parent? I assume so. I haven't tried that. Why don't we try? Oh, no, it looks like it looks like when you hit one, the other one drops. Yeah, it's acting like a radio button, not a checkbox. Yeah. And then the other question is, how do I clear this? Clear it again? How do I, if I click on unconnected, but I want to go back to the full list. Unconnected again so it's not green. There we go. Yeah. So that was, that was a big revelation for a lot of users that were using this. They did, they thought the biggest one is that it would be throughout the entire category of 2,606. No, you have to use Wikitree Plus for that. That we talked about that as well. So that was, that was really the big revelation. And that was really fun to work with as we started playing with all these new tools. Now the thing that Murray mentioned that was really interesting was the filter. And literally while this livecast was going on, somebody did ask in my project, how do I filter a category, one name study category to just show certain people in one county? And literally you were bringing up that filter demonstrated a great timing. So I think that was really good if you're trying to filter for certain last names or certain sometimes first names, but counties and locations for one place studies, one name studies, things like that. So good stuff. I love WBE. I am your biggest fan of WBE. Yeah, I think I'm the biggest fan.  We'll fight for it. Well, someone else is your fan as well, Murray. You've got some goodos here for your presentation. Good work. And, Joseph, thanks for all your hard work. And as you were demonstrating that, Sandy, and then Alex said, well, you have to go to WikiTree. So, Alex, I need a feature that you could add to the page that Sandy does that click. Wouldn't it be neat if somewhere maybe at the bottom of the page or at the top, the WikiTree plus search could show up so that you could generate that. So someone could then click on that link and then take you to WikiTree Plus to give you the full. And that should be easy to do. Just like we have on the categories are for the cemeteries for just that one report. Patton, that would be a fantastic, great idea. Because, yeah, that would be really handy. So, so many fans. Oh, hello. Now he's just so many fans. One needs a fan chair. One can always use a fan chair. Oh, that's great. Super. Alex, do you have anything to report? No, I'm working on it. Nothing, no. Okay. Nothing this week. I was busy. Yeah, well. But actually, I did import from OpenStreetMap all the cemeteries that are entered there. So there are 600,000 cemeteries. They are included in WikiTree plus plus maps now. I just finished that today, but that was more like data processing. So they have there there are more cemeteries than on find the grave or any other site. So this is obviously the biggest source. But there are no names. A lot of them are without names. And so they are not of much use. But if you are looking for a location, it can help. Cool. I did have a question. And let me just about the WikiTree maps. WikiTree plus maps app. The setting is setting something that we would find useful, because if so translating it would be helpful. And the other thing. Okay, I can translate that. I mean, if it's a setting that only you can change, then we should probably hide it. But no, these are some defaults when you what happens when you click. So I want the Pricci. You would like to Pricci. That means show or hide. That means show a panel. Show the panel. I think left panels when you start the application. Where's the applied button? Probably lower down. I have to shrink my screen to get to it. Okay, well, I want to show everything. So I'm going to go Pricci everything. Pricci, Pricci, Pricci. There we go. Pricci. I'm not sure what I'm showing now, but that wasn't there. No, yeah, okay. Most of these options are not for general use. They do sound specific. They decide it depends if the panel left and right panel are shown. But it has more effect on the phones and tablets than on desktop. And the password? You don't know the old one, so. You might want to, then if that's of no use to us, you can hide that.  I don't think you can, but because it's built-in. Okay. I wonder if we can hide those. Usually the system is based on users, so each one should have its own username and password. But since we are not managing the users here, it's just a generic one. Okay. Well, that's a really, I'm glad you added that. And I'll look forward to not just trying to guess what the options say. Well, there on the maps, you can now, on the maps, you can probably see the open street map cemeteries. Right in here, too. Yeah, in layers if you go. I go to layers, yeah. And cemeteries. There we go. And should be open street map from the bottom. And now if you go somewhere close, you will see the cemetery. Oh, it's thinking. Look at all those. Yeah. Oh, just zoom in. Zoom in. It's taken a while. Oh, I have. Okay. There are some bugs. I'm going to draw everything for now. Oh, well. Okay. It'll even, yeah. We'll just hide that for now. Okay. Great. Okay. Anyone else? Jamie, any last words? No. No. I'm trying to think. I'm like, I don't have anything else on our plan for today. I think we went through everything. We gave away the t-shirt, right? Yeah. Yeah. You might want to mention what sort of app stuff you're going to do during WikiTree Day and also the Hacktoberfest. Right. So that's what I was thinking. I would end it with. So first of all, I would like to thank David and Murray for joining us today. It was great seeing some new faces on the live cast and the work you guys have been doing. So that's super. Welcome to the club. And so yes, this is the last official Hacktoberfest live cast update for the month of October because this time next week we'll be into November. And in fact, a week today will be the beginning of the WikiTree symposium. So if you haven't already registered for that, you should do so. It's totally free. It doesn't cost you dime. And you'll get access to lots of quality genealogy at DNA WikiTree related workshops on the starting Thursday night, all day, Friday and Saturday. And then Sunday is WikiTree Day itself, celebrating our 15 years of WikiTree. And during that day, again, there'll be giveaways just like in the symposium, which you have to register, and then you get entered into those draws. On the Sunday, there are basically three main tracks going. So there's a sort of a main stage doing a number of different presentations. There is a project space projects set of workshops, which Sandy is running. And so she is going nonstop. I thought I had a busy day that day, but nothing compared to Sandy because she goes from dust till dawn or dawn till dusk. No, past dusk because she's going to midnight almost. That's true. Great projects. So the projects have really stepped up. I'm really, really proud of them. It's going to be interesting presentations. It's not just, hey, this is who we are. They're really good topics. So make sure to check them out. Yeah. And the other thing is we have a whole set of tech related workshops that we're doing that day as well. So I'm doing a workshop on various apps. And I think I'm going to focus on the new one, assuming that I can get the cousins out of there. I can get them married off and have families and stuff. And also I'm going to show off the DNA confirmation app because now it's not new this month, but it is a very useful one. And there are a number of DNA projects that are coming online. So I think it's a very helpful one. So I'm going to give a refresher on that. Then we have, as I mentioned earlier, Murray and I are doing two wiki tree browser extension specific workshops. There's going to be a workshop on the wiki tree B that Flow is going to do. It flows in our chat today. And also the wiki tree sourcer, Rob Abie is going to do one as well for that. And then we're going to close off Wiki Hacktoberfest. And we're going to celebrate on at 6pm Eastern Standard Time or 11, 2300 hours UTC on wiki tree day. And that will be our official Hacktoberfest grand finale wrap up and app up a loser. So we're going to be talking about what's happened during Hacktoberfest. We'll have a quick demo of the different apps and things that got added during that time and showing off lots of fun stuff. So come join us next Sunday, not this coming Sunday, but the Sunday after for wiki tree day and have lots of fun. Could one of you talk about the discord party? Oh, I forgot the discord party. What's that all about? That's Wednesday. And there's a postal GTG that's kind of to get everybody started and ready for the wiki tree day weekend that's coming up. So it's a very long time. I can't remember the exact times, but it's mostly if you're in the States Eastern time, it's the almost the entire afternoon, I think going into the evening and show up in lots of fun things going to happen there, but you got to show up to know what they are. Yeah, it's on the GTG post that says it's from 3pm to 9pm Eastern, those 7 to 1am UTC. And it's a great way. If you want to meet new people, you want to ask a project a question, you want to find out, Hey, how do I do this on this profile? If you just want to say hi, if you just want to bring snacks, whatever it is, you got to show up. That sounds like fun. I, you know what, I briefly remember that going by, but I thank you for, thanks Murray for. Oh, it was a lot of fun last year, I remember. Good. Okay, then. Well, we'll see you at the discord party then. So thanks everyone again. Thanks Jamie and Alash for being Sandy, for being my my regulars. And thanks to David and Murray today and for all the others who have helped out over the past four weeks. So see you later.


And here's the Secure 96 board here made by Hope Run and for you. I'm Joakim Bek, I'm the technical security working group. I've been spending some time doing some programming with one of the chips on this device. And you're from Hope Run? Yes, we made it. Yes, my name is Duja, we made it. You made it? Yes. So, you had a session about this, what is special about this? Well, it's actually not really a new idea. I mean, there are a couple of other devices already on the market doing more or less the same thing. But some of them have, they're not for sale anymore and license-wise it wasn't really what we wanted to have, for example. And it started out that we would like to have a way to store keys, for example, on any device, basically. And it could be hard in some cases if you have a MCU from different manufacturers. And especially when we were dealing with Safari initially, it was a little bit hard to decide where to store things. So we started to look into another solution. Is there anything external that we can use? And we found out about one of these sizes here. So, what chips are on here? Can you show it? Can you show it a bit closer to the camera? So, there are, well, the leftmost one here is the FTDI. So that's just for the communication protocol and so on. The middle one here, or that one, that's the TPM chip. And then you have the AT-SHAR 508A, which is asymmetric authentication chip. And the next one is the AT-SHAR 204A. That's almost the same, but it's a symmetric chip. And then you have some E-Prom also, flash. So it's a mezzanine board? Yep, yes. For what does it use for? 96 boards or anything? Right, so it's the same, I mean the same 40 pin header here. So you can just plug it into the CE devices and just use it.  What do you sell it for? Maybe 20, about 20. 20 dollars? Yes. And what kind of security does it bring? Yeah, I mean, I think this is most interesting to people that are prototyping or want to get into this working with security chips and so on. Because they get access to, for example, a TPM quite easily. It's not expensive and they have all this cool functionality and quite powerful functionality on a single device like this. And that's quite unique. I mean, if I want to play with my TPM, should I do it on my laptop or do I want to do it on this instead? So what's a TCG TPM 2.0? That's the standard by this group who are developing the specifications. And it stands for TPM? TPM, trusted platform module. Trusted platform module, so it's a trusted chip, trusted hardware. And it's the only way to make security you want it in the hardware. You can't just do some software tricks to keep stuff secure. It's hard. I mean, there are ways usually to grab things if it's not hardware protected. And that's just one step to do and potentially some chips will have more and more of that on the SoC? Well, TPM is used. You have it in every single laptop today, I guess. So you can just enable it if you want to. But again, if I didn't know anything about TPM and I would like to start playing with it, I would prefer not to play with it on my laptop because there's a risk that it can lock out things and so on. So having it done like this and prototyping, get used to it and so on. So how was it for you to work with the NARA to make this into something you can sell? It's an interesting process to... Yes, it's very interesting to make the Secure 96. For us, we feel very honored to have this opportunity to produce this board. Cool. All right. So how soon is available? Yes. Can buy now? Next month. You can buy this in the next month. Cool. Are you going to buy one? I already have one. Thank you.