We're here in Boston, Massachusetts. This is HP Vertica's user conference. The hashtag is HP Big Data 2013 and we're here exclusively on the ground coverage of what's going on in Big Data, what's going on underneath under the covers of the new modern architectures of Big Data Powering, new value proposition for entrepreneurs and businesses as they retool and rethink the modern infrastructure and software paradigms or software-led infrastructure as we talk about. And to kick things off, Noah then talked to the leader of HP. I'm John Furrier, the founder of SiliconANGLE. I'm joined by co-host. Hi everybody, I'm Dave Vellante of Wikibon. Colin Mahoney is here. He's the vice president general manager of HP Vertica. Just coming off the keynote. Great job this morning, Colin. I got to ask you, what the heck is a Brontabyte? It's a lot of data. It's a lot of information. Yeah, it's funny, I talked about it this morning, but we think back, I think back to my first hard drive. And it was the early 80s and it was 20 megabytes. And at the time, I couldn't even fathom what a gigabyte was.  Certainly for a terabyte, back then I would have given you a similar answer. And so now we sit here today and we hear about exabytes, zettabytes, Brontobytes. Who knows what else is coming? I think we're gonna run out of the decimal system maybe before we get there. But it's coming. I mean, the amount and volumes of information that are out there are growing at faster and faster pace every day. And I think what's so exciting is that we're realizing how to really take advantage of that. And that can lead to better lives, better healthcare, better experiences and gaming and products and services. So it's an exciting time. And I've no doubt we'll have a Brontobytes pretty soon. Colin, I got to ask you, obviously, we've had many conversations in the past. You came from Vertica, the startup now part of HP and leading the charge, fast growing executive. Got a lot of credibility within the company. You guys are doing great. But before we get into what's new with Vertica, I want to ask you, you've been in the industry for a while, we've had conversations about other cycles of innovation like client server and the computer industry. What's your take on the current big data? You have a lot of great customers here. Not just token customers, but real innovators here from really growing web scale, hyper scale startups to existing enterprises. What's your take on the big data? How important is it and what can you compare and contrast to other major innovations in the computer industry? Yeah, well you mentioned, certainly, that we went from mainframe to client server, client server to web. And HP CTO Martin Fank, he talks about this as perhaps the largest tectonic shift in information technology. And I agree with that. I think it's for a few different reasons. Number one to me is there's a perfect storm of what's happening right now. It's cloud, it's mobility, it's security, it's big data. All three of those other pillars relate to information and big data. So they're all generating enormous volumes of information and we're acting on them. And we're acting on them at a faster pace than ever. And so I think big data is a tough thing to define and it's tough to say that is big data. But I think it's one of these things where when you see it, you know it. And when you see what's going on around information technology generally, you know it. And what's so exciting from my perspective is just like all those other tectonic shifts, new applications, new products, new services are being developed to take advantage of it. And I think that's the refresh that's going on right now in IT, around big data, and it affects everything. It's hardware, it's software, it's services. So it really is a renaissance of sorts for IT. We'll get into some of this all day and next day tomorrow about the vertical solution. But you guys have played in a lot of different environments. I got to ask you, what do you think is the core enabling technology that's causing all this massive positive value proposition disruption right now? Was there one thing, is there a collection of things that's really the enablement that you guys see really being the lever for this massive shift? Well, I think if I were to point to one thing, I just think that we're at a point with compute power and processing power where it's fairly inexpensive to do incredible things with data. And that, by the way, not only lets us work with the data, but these devices are creating data. I mean, consider a cell phone, if you're using an LTAE network right now, every time you pick up the phone, you're generating about 10 times more data than the previous generation of network technology for the carrier. And what that means is for quality of service and just tracking how that phone call is working across the network, there's probably 1,000 fields of data that are being collected every time you make the call. Now, previously, it would have been too expensive from a processing power standpoint to do that. You never as a developer would have had that luxury to use, but with all the processing power and everything that we're doing, I think that's really behind it. The other thing that's behind it is social. You know, think about Fitbits, think about the upbands. There's a social element to data where everybody wants to compare. They want to compare themselves. They want to compare to themselves over time and they want to compare to others and they want to share that. And so again, I think it's the social aspect of computing and it ties also into the processing power that we have. One of the things Dave and I were talking on the intro prior to you coming on, doing on the kickoff is, you know, obviously Mark Andrewsson wrote that Wall Street Journal article, software's eating the world. We have, you know, research agenda, software-led infrastructure. The software paradigm's changing. So, you know, in a way, you guys are enabling some disruption around business intelligence, data warehousing, traditionally legacy kind of environments where software is built for different purposes. So, when you take away the fact that compute now is almost unlimitedly free and low latency. And there's new connected devices that can create social or internet of things with the industrial internet. It changes the software architecture. What are you seeing in that regard? Like just some anecdotal proof points. You can say, hey, how customers are behaving differently, how are they writing their software different, role of the data scientists, all of the above. Just give some color to that, that changing paradigm from old way to new way. Yeah, well, one of the most intriguing things I've seen from how software's being developed that actually relates to the data is we have a customer that actually writes clinical healthcare software and they put breadcrumbs in their software. Which, think of a breadcrumb as a virtual sensor. Now the developer has the ability to drop a sensor anywhere they want in the code. And many of their customers opt into this where they allow the data to be collected on not only how a physician or a healthcare provider is using the software, but also how the code is executing in there. That feedback goes directly back to the engineering organization. So imagine that in the past, you'd need product management to be collecting information. Here's how people are using it. Here's how long it's taking them. You put focus groups together. Now these assumptions. Making assumptions. Oh, by the way, the data's changing in real time. Data's changing in real time. All of a sudden this customer in the period of about three weeks collected 500 billion rows of breadcrumb data on how it was used. Imagine how powerful that is to have that precision of data without any of the color commentary. Not to say that product managers don't still have a huge job, but you're arming yourself with a lot more information. So that's an example to me of not only how is the software world changing, but again it's self-perpetuating because the software applications that are being developed have all these hooks that can pull that information and then create better software. So I think another big change in software is the agility. You look at the scrum agile methods of software, you can't come out with a release every couple of years. It's just not, that's not the world we live in. You have to be able to have a scrum method where you come out constantly with new releases that can leverage this. So how are you guys taking advantage of this? You talked about your three priorities that you have for HP Vertica in your keynote. You said consume data anywhere, reveal and share insights, sorry consume any data, reveal and share insights and deploy anywhere. Maybe you could talk about each of those and share with us your vision. Yeah, so for us it's always been very simple. Number one we want to make it easy for people to get information in. And given the real time component we want to make it easy for them to get the information in very quickly. So that's a given. Until the information gets into any platform you can't do much with it. The second thing is once it's in there we want to make sure that you can do as many things with that information as possible. And that's the whole interactive analytics. Batch processing, asking one question, you can do that with other platforms with the power of information is ask many questions against the data over and over again and ask different kinds of questions. So we're building up a lot more capabilities and we have been doing this for quite some time in the engine of what you can do with the data. And then thirdly, and I think this is one of the greatest aspects of being at HP is deploy it anywhere. And my analogy is just like when you use a GPS system you just want it to tell you where to go. And you don't know that analytics are happening but they are. And much the same way all analytics today should be close to the application or the user who's taking advantage of it. And that means you've got to be able to deploy it on the cloud. You've got to have appliances for people that want appliances. You've got to have software. It's got to be embeddable. And from the founding of Vertica we've been committed to that very lightweight footprint that can be flexible and deployed anywhere. And of course HP gives us that breadth and the ability to take advantage of it on different platforms. So you talked earlier about sometimes people don't really even know what big data is and we think of it as you need to do things differently. Because whether it's architecturally or programmatically and you've got a spectrum. You've got sort of the traditional guys and you've got the Hadoop pure plays. And you guys are new and different but you sort of bridge both of those worlds. Can you talk about that a little bit and then we can tie it into what you're doing with Haven? Absolutely, so I think with any technology and probably any product or service you've got to remove the friction to adoption. And so there has been for decades a vibrant community around SQL, ODBC, JDBC, methods of moving around data. So what we did was we said let's take all the great things about that ecosystem and many of those partners are here today. Let's embrace it, let's make it better. But let's take the things that people don't like about databases and many times you hear the vocal NoSQL community talking about it. No scale out or other aspects that traditional databases had. And we try to, we solve those problems. So give them the full SQL capabilities in fact add a lot more analytic capabilities that aren't necessarily in the standard SQL. And then also fix all the issues that traditional databases had. And I think that's the key. You've got to embrace what's out there in the ecosystem, because there's so many people that have been trained on this that want to keep doing things the way they're doing but solve the root of the problem. And that's really what our focus has always been. Okay, so the folks out there who aren't attending, I'll see you guys sold out, well oversubscribed on the attendance. Congratulations. Thank you. Summer in Boston, I think it's a great sign. First people love to come to Boston in the summer, but a great, great sign there. But you have like basically three tracks going on right now, the business track, technical product track and the ecosystem track. Could you just break down quickly from your perspective as the leader? What are the key things that you guys are talking about on these tracks on the business, product, technical and then the ecosystem? Yeah, great question. So in fact, Billy Bean is our keynote speaker today. And I would relate it in many ways to the Moneyball theme. Michael Lewis' famous book and ultimately the film. But what's happening today is to really take advantage of information, you need IT obviously to be intimately involved with the technology. You need some data science and people that understand what the data really means. And you need the business buy-in as well. And so these tracks that we've created are really trying to cover all bases, I guess to use that analogy again, of what it takes to win with analytics and data within the organization. It's not just a technology problem. It's not just a data problem. It's not just a business problem. It's how you bring those things together. And I think what's really exciting about this is we're bringing together all these different people who can learn not only in their area, but what it takes from some of the other sides as well. What are the key variables on the business side? Obviously, is it the POC? Is it the proven getting the business case right? Is it the architecture? I think for businesses right now, everything technology related is about the return on investment. We call it the return on information. But I think just given how competitive everything is right now, business people want to know, what am I going to spend? What am I going to get? How fast am I going to get it? And then how sustainable is that? And data is actually a very highly sustainable competitive advantage. So I want to follow up on that because using the Moneyball analogy, the book Michael Lewis, clearly when you read that book, you see that the Oakland A's have this competitive advantage. You wonder, is it sustainable? Of course, they continue to do pretty well with their model, but others have adopted it. The Red Sox sort of tried it, and they actually did it, won a couple of World Series, and then sort of abandoned it, and now they seem to be back to it.  And why are you confident that it's sustainable? I think big data is sustainable, but what has to be done is constant reiteration, constantly finding new models, bringing in new types of information. HP introduced Haven at Discover, as you guys remember. And that's all about not just taking transactional structured data, but unstructured information. And I think what will be sustainable when it comes to information and competitive advantage is taking in 100% of the information and trying things that you might have thought never had a correlation to what you were doing and bringing that into your predictive model. So if you're a telco, pulling in pieces of data that nobody would ever think relates to your churn model or your retention model, bringing that data in, the data is never static. And I think as long as you continually bring in more data, new data faster, and you're changing your models, and you're just trying things. This notion of A-B testing, it's all the rage because it continuously lets people try in real time and see what's working. It's not just A-B anymore, it's A-B-C-D. A-B-C-D, yeah. A-B-C-D, yeah. Z and more. An unlimited amount of querying in real time agility, as you mentioned, on the business side. But I got to ask you more about the HP growth strategy. I know you're in a quiet period, you really can't talk to numbers, so we won't go there. Be respectful for that. But I got to ask you about the, obviously you're embedded in HP fully with the acquisition, taking advantage of the winds at your back, the HP turnaround's happening, and big data's hot and you have a great product. I want to talk about the ecosystem. Yep. It becomes a punchline in a growth strategy. You know, hey, we got an ecosystem play. What is your ecosystem play here? Obviously it's early for you guys. You have an early channel you're developing, you're nurturing, almost kind of a blank sheet of paper, if you will. You've got some existing assets, but what is your ecosystem strategy, and where is it now, and what's your vision for that? Well, I think again, you know, HP's been around for 75 years and it was built on partners. This is a company in the DNA of this company that understands how to work with partners. And for so many channel partners, there's so much pent up demand right now around big data. So number one, we've been embracing that and we will continue to embrace that. But secondly, I think part of the vertical side of things is that we really are a pure play analytic platform and it takes BI front ends and it takes ETL and it takes all sorts of other visualization and related technologies. And because we're open standards based, we embrace that. And you know, here we have wonderful sponsors. We've got incredible partners every day and every customer that we play in, we've got partners around us. And I think in a time where there's been massive consolidation and lots of vertical integration within companies, what customers are telling us more than ever is they want choice. And having a strong ecosystem, having open standards gives them the choice. So we are fully committed to that. And you said it, we're just beginning, but I think you'll continue to see- What are some of the things ecosystem partners have? Because obviously ecosystem is on everyone's agenda and it's one of those things where it's almost like on everyone's slide and part of their management team. Really, I mean, it's an important part of growth. But you have to hit the mark with the right approach. What are you guys taking? What approach are you taking with the partners? What are they looking for? What are the things you're hearing from them? Well, I think what everybody wants right now, especially in the big data space, is they want use cases. They want to know exactly what problem are you solving. And the easiest way to show them that is with our partners, we take a use case, whether it's a telco use case, a healthcare use case, social networking, analytics use case. We go in with the partners and we say, this is what we've done. This is how we've solved that. And by the way, let us show you how we've solved that. And I think that is the most important. And they want a winner too. They want to bet with a winner. They want a winner. They want to make money. Yeah, they want to make money. And be a neighbor to make money. Yep, exactly. So I think partnerships like anything else, they're not something that you set up and then walk away from. There's something that you continue to build over time. You have to work with them every day. You learn a lot from them. And that's what we do. That's what we're committed to. Okay, I'm John Furrier with Dave Vellante here in theCUBE. We're on the ground exclusive with HP. Two days of wall-to-wall coverage here at the Vertica HP Vertica Big Data User Conference, hashtag HP Big Data 2013. I'll call and I'll let you get the last word in. What do you want folks to walk away with from this conference? What is the objective at the end of this conference? What do you want folks to walk away with? And for the folks not here and watching or watching on demand, what do you want them to understand? The real objective here is to get our customers and our partners talking to each other. It's not about what HP and Vertica are telling everybody. It's really come learn and hear the stories, the success story, the amazing things that people have been able to do with data. The real heroes are the users, the customers, the partners. And so if you look at the agenda, it's all about listening to them and hearing their story. So our only goal is to get out of their way, facilitate a great environment over the next two days and just get to listen and learn from all of them. Well Collin, I just want to say it's been fun watching you and your career go from the startup now to the big company and leading the team and congratulations on your success. You guys are winning and some of the deployments we're seeing, you guys are doing great. And again, great strategy, great team. And we're going to drill into those use cases here inside theCUBE all for the next day and two days. So stay tuned for more here, live in Boston. This is theCUBE. We'll be right back after this short break. Thank you.


Hey everybody, my name is Ryan Guy and I'm the instructor for CMS T4, a small group discussion. If you didn't know already, this is a hybrid class, meaning that a chunk of the class will actually take place in a computer mediated environment while the performative aspects of the class will take place in an actual classroom. As we come into the first week of class, there's a couple things that I'd like to encourage you to do. First off, if you look directly below me, you're going to see a link for the syllabus. Before you come to the first night's class, you want to go ahead and read through all the requirements on that and make sure you understand what the class is about and are pretty sure that you want to stay in. Pay special attention to the last two pages of the syllabus because that's where the course calendar is. On there, you're going to see the dates that you'll actually need to come into class, work with your groups, take exams, as well as give group presentations. Attendance in this class, since we only meet a small number of times, is extremely important and absolutely mandatory. So look at those dates and make sure that that's going to work for you. I also like to encourage you to explore around our Blackboard page. Since a large chunk of the class takes place online, you want to start to get familiar. Now, I'm going to go through everything on Wednesday night, when we meet for the first time, but it's not a bad idea to go explore, check things out and get an idea of where things at and perhaps bring any questions that you have about the Blackboard page to class with you then. One special note, I've already mentioned that attendance is important, but attendance on the first night is extremely important. If you're not in attendance on the first night, I'm going to go ahead and drop you from the class and give your space to someone else. So please, please, please make sure that if you're enrolled in the class that you're there on the first night. Well, I'm looking forward to meeting you all. I hope you enjoy the last couple days of summer and I will see you all Wednesday night.


We're now going to take a look at the pressure, volume, temperature behavior of gas mixtures. And with this what we will be doing is introducing the concept of partial volume and partial pressure. So to begin with we're going to use a couple of laws that exist within the area of gases and the first one is Dalton's law. And what Dalton's law states mathematically is that the pressure of a mixture is going to be equal to the component pressures of each individual component in that mixture provided that each of the components is at the same volume and temperature. So graphically we could illustrate it in this manner. Imagine we have two containers that are identical in size and then we have a third container again identical in size. So what we can say here is the volume and temperature and we will assume that the volume and temperature of these containers are all the same. If in the first container we have gas A and in the second container we have gas B and the pressure in container A or with gas A is PA and the pressure here is PB. If we were to combine these two gases together and put them into the third container. So we're taking these two containers mixing the gases together but keeping them in the same volume and temperature. What we would find is the pressure of the combined gases is going to be PA plus PB. So that is Dalton's law illustrated and it's also written in terms of the summation above. A second law that we will be relying on here is Amagat's law and again I will write it out in terms of a summation saying that if we have the volume of a mixture it can be represented by the volumes of each of the individual components provided that each component is at a common pressure and temperature. So graphically we can illustrate that in the following manner. So imagine we have one container then we're going to have another container that is slightly bigger and then our third container is going to be of a volume that is equal to the sum of the first two volumes. So if we have gas A at pressure and temperature, gas B at the same pressure and temperature and then this is gas A plus B again at the same pressure and temperature we would have volume A, volume B. When we combine them together the volume of the final container will be VA plus VB and so that is a graphical illustration of Amagat's law which is also written in the summation in the top. So with this it comes or brings forward ideas with both Dalton's and Amagat's law. We can talk about component pressures and we can also talk about component volumes. So that would be the volume for individual component and the pressure. What we're now going to do is we're going to take a look and combine both Dalton's and Amagat's law along along with a law that we will often use for gas mixtures and that is the ideal gas equation and that written out in a mole basis can be expressed as PV equals nRT noise that we have n for moles. Sometimes they'll see mass there but just be aware that the gas constant R will change depending upon if you have moles or mass in that equation. And what we're now going to do is we're going to write an expression using the ideal gas equation for a component and we're also going to write an expression for the mixture and we're going to divide them by one another. So we'll begin with pressure. So if we have a component pressure at volume M and temperature M that's the mixture of volume and temperature and we're going to divide that by the pressure of the mixture. With the ideal gas equation we can rearrange the ideal gas equation up here and you can see that essentially all we need to do is take the volume onto the other side so we can re-express the pressure here in terms of the ideal gas equation. So we have the mixture volume and temperature and we have the number of moles of that component and we're going to divide by the number of moles of the mixture and the other things within the ideal gas equation remain the same and so with that we find that that is common, that's common, gas constant is common and so what we're left with is just the ratio of the moles in the component divided by the total moles in the mixture which we defined earlier as just being the mole fraction. Let me clean up that eye it's a little difficult to read so that is the mole fraction. Similarly if we do the exact same thing but now we look at the volumes in our mixture again what we get is the ratio of the volumes to the volume of the mixture is equal to the mole fraction so with that for our component pressure and component volume we can write out the following relationship. So our component volume divided by the mixture volume or component pressure divided by the mixture pressure is equal to the mole fraction and with this it brings up another term that we will use as we're evaluating properties of gas mixtures and that is the partial pressure which is what we call our component pressure it will be the mixture pressure multiplied by the mole fraction for that individual component and similarly for the partial volume it will be the mixture volume multiplied again by the mole fraction so those are two things partial pressure partial volume that we will use as we're evaluating some of the property data specifically I believe it will come up when we're looking at entropy. Now the partial volume is used where it was used for a very old method of determining what was in a gas mixture and it was with the device called the Orsat apparatus and what you could do is you would have the mixtures of a combustion process and you would absorb certain components out of your gas mixture and by measuring the change in volume you could then determine the mole fractions and from that determine the percent of the different components in exhaust gas but Orsat apparatus that would use partial volume and I just mentioned that as kind of a historical measurement technique but nonetheless what we'll do next that will conclude this lecture but the next lecture we will move into evaluating properties as well as working an example problem for gas mixtures and after we've done that then that will conclude looking at gas mixtures and then we'll be able to move into heating ventilation and air conditioning applications which is where we'll need to apply these concepts. Thank you.


First time chat on Twitch. It's Yaman. Hey Chicho, I recently came across your channel and loving your work. I'm 24 from Canada, no degree, no specialised skill, and was on the rat-rat window for the past few years. Now I'm unemployed and living with family again. I'm job searching and hoping to work on a side business, providing simple property services. I've also considered going to school. I want to be able to provide financially for myself and future family. What advice would you give to someone like me? First advice, it's Yaman and welcome to our live stream by the way. First advice, don't get into debt. Don't get into debt. I don't even care if it's not any debt that you cannot, not just service but pay down. So servicing debt to a certain degree says, let's say you borrow $10,000 and you're paying let's say 10% interest, whatever, 10%. That's $1,000 a year. If you're servicing debt that you pay interest on it, let's say you can pay $1,000 a year, then you're not knocking anything off the principle and that's problematic. That means at the end of that year you stole all $10,000. Do not get into any type of debt like that at all, even for a business. If you're going to get into any type of debt like that, make sure you're taking off the principle and make sure you're doing it for a good reason because interest rates in my opinion are not going to go down anytime soon, not the way people want. People right now are paying like 9%, 10% of the mortgage, 9% of the mortgage, which is insane. Now, I might go higher. Now, you can generate a certain amount of income from doing many, many, many different things. If you're not 100% sure on what you really want to put all your eggs in and I don't recommend putting all your eggs in one basket, make sure you're going in heavy into something that is not dependent on licensing from the government because they may change their mind. For example, in BC, they just took away property rights. People had made these plans saying, oh, we're going to buy a house and it's going to have a suite and then we're going to rent that out to short-term renters, be Airbnb or whatever it was and then that's going to help pay the mortgage so we can afford this house. BC government just changed that law last year. So all those people that went into debt to buy this house, to buy this property, assuming that they could rent that out for short-term, immediate-term basis or now have to look at their spreadsheet and go, oh, that income is not coming in. Not only that, interest rates went up, taxes went up and government, more government regulation came in. So they went heavy in BC in Canada. You buy a house, you're going heavy because you're with the camp. Go any other way, you're going heavy in the house. It's a bubble. Remember, you're buying into a bubble. People bought into a bubble. So that was their business model. They got screwed. They got annihilated. There were people that borrowed money to open up a retail outlet, maybe restaurant, maybe services, maybe whatever. And they got screwed. How did they get screwed? They got screwed on multiple fronts. One of them was government said, shut down your business. Another one was their taxes going through the roof. Another one was their energy bills going through the roof. Another one was they needed to hire people and they can't find anyone to hire at a reasonable rate. So do you see where I'm going with this? So going all in and one thing is very dangerous. My recommendation is, especially if you're starting out decentralized, make sure you have two or three different revenue streams coming in. They don't have to be a lot on themselves. And make sure at least one of them is your own personal thing that's not linked up with any corporation. So don't work three jobs for three different corporations and hope that one of them is going to get you up the ladder through the door or whatever you want. Try to get one of them to be your own business because in Canada, the tax system, the way it's set up in Canada, is that everyone in Canada should have their own business, sole proprietorship, preferably if they're starting out. Because what that does is if you're generating money here, working for a corporation, getting a paycheck, every two weeks you get a paycheck, then you're in a certain tax bracket.  You can just register a name or not even register a name for initiative. Forget the rules and regulations right now, but look into it. You don't need to incorporate. It costs you like 60 bucks to do a name search and 60 bucks to register the thing. What you can do and make sure is something you want to be in or something that you're okay with spending a little bit of money on to be able to generate a little bit of revenue. Because what you can do is take the money that you made from wherever you're working and take some of that and put it into your own business where you can write off some of your salary towards investing in your own business and hopefully you're building capital in that business. You don't have to show profit, but you can reinvest if you're making money, if you're making money. And what that does from the salary that you're making, that reduces your tax bracket. So all of a sudden if you're making $50,000 a year, if you can put $15,000 into your own private business a year, whatever that might be, I don't know what it might be. Maybe it's a food critic, you open up your own website, you make videos and you write off, you go out to eat on restaurants, you write off, I don't know if this is not tax advice, I don't know if you can write off the whole thing, I don't know if this is legit, talk to an accountant, talk to someone professional, this is just an example.  It's expensive, but it feeds you. You can write reviews online, make videos of reviews.  So all of a sudden if you're, let's say, in a $50,000 tax bracket and you're paying 20% tax in a $50,000 tax bracket, that means $10,000 of your salary goes towards taxes. So really you're only bringing back $40,000 if you're lucky in Canada. The tax bracket in Canada is a lot higher than 20%, I think for $50,000. But if you're able to spend, let's say, $15,000, not spend, but take $15,000 of your income, that's after taxes, $15,000 of your income, let's ask you before taxes if you do your own taxes, $15,000 of your income, put it into your business, whatever it might be, all of a sudden you've gone from a $50,000 tax bracket down to a $35,000 tax bracket, and the $35,000 tax bracket may not be 20%, maybe it's 15%, it's a lot higher than that, maybe it's 15%. That means you only have to pay 15% tax on the money you're making. So not only do you get back, get back the taxes you paid on that $15,000 that you just invested in this company, so you get straight up $15,000 back in those taxes, on the rest of the $35,000, you get another 5% back because you overpaid because you're in a $50,000. Now this is all I'm going by memory, I'm not doing any numbers, I'm not looking anything up, this is just, I'm giving you a gist of it.  But Canada is set up for you to, if you're working salary, to write off a little bit of your salary on some kind of business so you can be in a lower tax bracket because that's the only way you'll be able to survive in Canada. Maybe if you're working for a company and they love you, what you can do is cut a deal with them and say, hey listen, take me on as part-time and the other half of it, I'll still work for you guys, but I'm forming my own company, consulting company, and paying my consulting company. A company that you might be working for full-time might actually like that deal because if you're only working part-time, they won't have to give you benefits so it's less expense for them, right? As long as you're healthy, if you need the dentals, you need the medical, you need the massage, you need the physiotherapy, you need all that stuff, then it's the ball and chain, right? But if they agree with that, then you're making part-time and your consulting company would be billing them, get money from the consulting company, this company starts making money, and now this company incorporated, maybe, most likely would have to be incorporated, right? Then this company is its own entity and the money in that entity, if it's you're spilling it up, let's say you're making $50,000, if you're splitting that up between two different entities, this you is only making $25,000, this company is only making $25,000, all of a sudden you're in a way tax bracket, right? You're not in a $50,000 tax bracket, you're in a $25,000 tax bracket and you can still do funny little things over here and over here, right? So what you need to do in Canada, really, what you need to do in Canada, it's not as important as what type of piece of paper you have is if you know what type of system you're functioning under, right? That's the most important thing and that goes true for every other place in the Western world, really. But in Canada, I'm speaking in Canada because I live in Canada, right? So that's really the game at play if you want to have financial independence in Canada. Understand the system that's in play right now, make sure you take advantage of all the options legal that the government has provided you. For example, in Canada, they have something called the TFSA, Tax-Free Savings Account where every year, every Canadian and it's cumulative, right? Every Canadian can take $5,000 of their income, it was $5,000 and then it kicked up to $10,000, but I'm not 100% sure what it is right now, right? You can take let's say $5,000 of your income and put it into this TFSA account and that's a tax-free savings account. So any money you make in that account, may it be trading, may it be GICs, may it be whatever, is tax-free, right? So for example, let's say you in your tax-free savings account, you went ahead six months ago, but Rumble Stock, which was trading at $3.50, right? You put $5,000 in there and Rumble Stock went up to eight something, but let's say you sold it at seven, which is sitting around right now, so you made 100% profit on your Rumble Stock, rock and roll, right? Now your $5,000 in that tax-free savings account now just became $10,000, right? Rock and roll. If you sell that Rumble Stock, now you have $10,000 in that Rumble Stock, but that's tax-free $5,000 you made, right? If you did that in a regular trading stock, the government will come along and say that's capital gains, from the $5,000 profit that you made, they'll take $2,500, right? So if you did the same thing in a normal trading account, that $10,000, the risk that you took to invest that money, now it's only $7,500, but in tax-free savings account, it's still $10,000, right? These are some of the loopholes, the regulations that centralized power has put into place, and every citizen of every country has to look at the system they live under.   There's another word for it, right? Taking your families, your children's money to go wage war somewhere, right? All these regulations are in place to stop you from being able to conduct business out to be financially dependent, right? Because that's just for Joe Blum, me and you. It's not for corporations, mega corporations, they've got army of accountants and they're going, hey, hey, we found another loophole, let's go around it. That's why Amazon didn't pay any taxes for about 20 years, right? Not only that, they got taxes back, right? How often do people, Canadians get taxes back from the government after they've paid, you know, 30% of the salary to taxes, right? So people need to, that's one, one reason why I said that person that wanted to take the money, they heard this thing on the radio saying, give us your money, we'll make you more money. He want this person, she actually wanted to put her money in there. She was too lazy to look at the system available for her to make money, right? That's my advice. It's, I know it's a lot.  The most important thing you need to understand is what type of system are you functioning under? In Canada, you should appreciate that we're in a fascist system right now and it's collapsing. Behavior accordingly, right? Behavior accordingly because there are places that there are profits to be made and there's a lot of places that are about to go down to toilet. Okay, I hope that helps. Apologies about going off on that. I didn't read the chat. Okay, I'm going to scroll down all the way to the bottom, just because I'm going to see if there's anything directed towards me.


Are you ready? I'm ready. All right ladies and gentlemen, it's Friday night here in Stanton, Nebraska, Nebraska. Wow, we have a lot to talk about. It's been a while since we've done one of these. First of all, I would like Ally to show her shirt. Look at this. Oh, yeah. Look at that. She's so strong. She's like the Hulk. She's ripping. She's ripping through her shirt. I am taking this interview seriously and I wore my finest button-up. You look good, babe. Yeah, I don't look good. First of all, thank you all for following this adventure. It really means a lot to us that people are enjoying this, right? It does mean a lot to us. Thank you. And yeah, enjoying it as we're enjoying it and yeah, keeping us going, supporting with your words and your cookies and all that good stuff. Not enough cookies. More cookies are always appreciated. More cookies sent to us, please. We have a bunch of questions that social media has directed towards us that you're very curious about. We'll try to answer as many as possible. But the first question comes from one of my Instagram friends, Marissa in California. And she asked, has riding together with your loved one, with your partner, been all you ever imagined? Good question. Very good question, Marissa. Ally, you want to start? Yeah. Has it been all I've ever imagined? All that and more. I mean, I would say that it has been more beautiful and heart-wrenching and transformative than I had imagined. And it's also been more challenging than I had imagined. There has been moments where I've been like, oh my God, can we actually do this? Can I do this physically? Can we do this as a couple? And then there have been moments where I'm like, wow, this is, it really is like just a dream come true. Like these things are almost, we couldn't have written this out. We couldn't have scripted this. So let's say yeah. Yeah. And to go along with that point, we couldn't have scripted this. We're always exactly where we're supposed to be. Like we might think, oh, we're not making enough mileage, but we end up being where we're supposed to be. And we're having the experiences that we're having because of the speed we're going. And at times I can get uptight about, oh, we need to be doing more mileage or whatever. But if we had been on my schedule, we would miss some things. So it's really fun to think about it in that way because you're like, wow, this is where we're supposed to be with the people we're supposed to be with. And we're having the road magic that we're having because of the speed that we're going. And that's just amazing. So yeah, all we ever imagined before doing this ride, of course, I've done a lot of bike rides before and I've done them alone. And I've imagined that someday I would do it with somebody that I love. And so I have all these fantasies. And I think a lot of them are coming true. We're going to small town fairs. We're dancing to a band in a field on the 4th of July. We're under a sky full of stars. That's so incredibly beautiful. You can't even explain it in words. And there's just been so much physical beauty, landscape beauty, but also with you and me. We have these moments where we just look at each other and we're like, wow, we are so fortunate and so lucky. And so yeah, I think in many ways it is all we ever dreamed and all we never dreamed things are happening that I had never dreamed about, you know. And thank you, Marissa, for that question. So people have asked, you know, what it's like being together 24 seven. We're both pretty individual independent people. What's it been like for you having been stuck stuck to you? Oh my God. It's been a it's there's been times where it's been very difficult. Like, like you said, I'm used to being alone a lot. I'm used to doing these bike tours alone and I can do whatever speed I want to do and I can eat what I want to eat and stop when I want to stop because it's just me with you. I have to take into account your needs and your wants and your desires and that's been it's been a change for me and it's been difficult at times because I want to go faster or I want to wake up earlier or I want to get to a certain town. But overall, it's been it's been amazing and being with somebody 24 seven.  It's it's like a fairy tale. You do get annoyed with that person and we've definitely gotten on each other's nerves. We've had some moments where we're like going back and forth and back and forth and you're just like I'm not really enjoying you right now. And that also has been both scary.  You're like, I'm leaving for an hour. I'm going to go hang out with my guy friends. That doesn't happen. You have to deal with it right then and there. So we've learned problem solving skills that that have been very useful. And we've learned them very quick. I think we're living a lot of relationship in a very short amount of time. It's only been what six weeks we've been on this trip, but it feels like this has been a year crash crash course in relationship 101. Yeah, I agree with that. I think that we are definitely going through at least a year of relationship in this two and a half months. And there's been times where I'm like, whoa, maybe this was too much too fast. Maybe we don't have the base and really the trust. Trust is something that it takes time to develop. Maybe we don't have that going in. We don't know each other well enough to be taking this on. But in the end, I think it totally is worth it. And I think it totally was the right decision. You and I both go hard when we do things we tend to go all in. And I don't know. I'm not trying to mess around here. I think it's good to figure things out. We're working things out. We're figuring out whether or not how things work together. For example, we were riding in Wyoming down the continental divide, and we got into it about something that had happened a few days earlier. And we were going back and forth and back and forth. And you're like, I don't think this is a good time to deal with this. And I was like, I think it's a great time to deal with this because we have a big shoulder and it's just you and me. And we're just talking. So let's just keep talking. And I mean, I was kind of saying it in the moment to be funny, but it was true. It was a great time to talk it out. We were on our bikes. Our bodies were moving. We were heated up in our debate or our conversation. And we did work through it. And we got to the point where we're like, okay, I see where you're coming from. You see where I'm coming from. Deep breath. Yeah. And it really, it pushes, I think, both of us to kind of get over ourselves. You know, our friend Dana who's just here said something really wonderful, really wonderful reminder.  And it's not that you need time away from your person. It's just that you need some time to yourself. And when you reach that space of like just needing some time to yourself, it's not something personal against you, right? It's just that that's a human need. Yeah. And so, you know, we're in a situation where we can't necessarily take too much space, but we can come in and remind myself, I know I can be like, okay, I'm really irritated with pretty much everything Ryan does right now. But it's not because of him. It's just because I've been around him 24 seven for however many days. So that was just a really wonderful little reminder to check and like check in. And I think it's been, yeah, it's been good to have that like constantly having to check myself to make sure that I show up in a good way for you. And I think also, you know, I know I went into this, this deal like this, this trip, this adventure is like commitment, right? Like, I'm going to do it when do the whole thing. There's no backing out. It's kind of like a short term marriage, you know, like we're together over two and a half months, regardless of what happens. And that also like really, I find pushes me to try to show up in my best way. Like, I'm going to love this person regardless. For the next two and a half months, like, I'm going to do all I can to like show up and like love this person because I've committed to be there with you. And also, it's a lot more fun to go on an adventure with somebody when you're really enjoying that person. So if you let those negative thoughts or whatever is annoying you, just overcome your heart and soul. You're not going to have any fun. And you're just going to be like, I hate when she does this and this and this. But you don't want to do that. Because what we're doing is such an amazing opportunity to be riding our bikes. We want to be enjoying each other and the world and the people we're meeting. And if we're in a grumpy mood, we're not going to be enjoying this experience. For example, the other day coming out of a hotel, we got into it a little bit. We figured out the problem. We talked about it and we started riding our bikes and we're just talking and life is good. And you know, I was like, Allie, let's take a break. Let's stop. And I just wanted to stop and hug you and tell you, I love you again.  And it was just one of those moments. And this came from Bob and Michelle who came to visit us where they said, sometimes you just need to stop and hug. And that's what I did in that moment. I just stopped what we were doing. Allie pulled over really quickly. And I just grabbed her and hugged her. And that little gesture made me feel real good. And I'm guessing made you feel really good. Yeah. No, that was, I think, a really healing moment in our relationship. Things have been rough for, I don't know, I would say, you know, we had that fight, but like, we were getting on each other's nerves that week. Like, we weren't getting along super well. And, you know, the love advice that we've been getting has been very helpful. It's helpful to get these reminders of how to treat each other in relationship.  But, you know, they reminded me that Bob and Michelle also reminded me to be patient with you. And I was like, yeah, thank you. Like, it's good to have that reinforce, like to remind me to like, just like, be patient with my partner, be patient. That was a hard time for me. Like, I was not feeling that you were, you weren't being very physical with me.  And, you know, for me, those are really important reaffirmations of a relationship. And I, you know, I've been waiting, I was like, man, it's been almost a week now. Ryan hasn't told me he loves me. And he's not being very physical with me. And like, that's, that makes me feel insecure.  I'm going to wait it out. And eventually I buckled in. I told you that I loved you because I couldn't hold it in anymore. And I was just seemed like we needed that healing space. But, but those reminders have been really important to come back and sit with things and allow them to unfold in their times, you know, that were in this, not just for the short term, you know, enjoyment and bliss, but for the long-term development. And these things sometimes take time and patience. And just like being at the right place at the right time, sometimes we're getting love advice right at the right time where we need to put it into action. And that was one of them. Just stop and hug. Yeah. All right. Here's a fun, quick question for you. Everybody keeps asking how I'm getting the drone shots. Well, a lot of times I'm flying the drone as I'm riding my bike and holding it like this, like a video game. And that might seem very, very dangerous. I only do it on roads where there's no cars essentially. And I'm just, you know, making the slightest moves with the controller like this and like that. And that's how I'm getting the drone shots. And I'm glad that you're enjoying them. I think it's pretty cool. It is a fun toy for sure. What's that? We're already at 14 minutes, so maybe another seven minutes max. Okay. Food and nutrition. Okay, food. Talk about food. We get a lot of questions about how we managed to eat as athletes on this adventure. It's a challenge. Ryan's a vegetarian. I am gluten-free. We eat at gas stations a lot. Fritos, I would say, are key to gas station nutrition. They're gluten-free and they have no preservatives. Really simple food. Chocolate milks, a really good way to get some protein. And it tastes good. And it tastes good. You can find a good country breakfast pretty much anywhere with some home fries and some eggs. We drink, I would say, a lot of sparkling water and nutritional soda. What else do you have to say about nutrition? I also take vitamins every day. I take omega-3 fish oils and turmeric. But our nutrition is actually pretty, it's negligible. I would consider it like a, it's a passing nutrition. We do our best. We get salad when we can. But we're not in Boulder anymore. Yeah, for me, I mean, still a lot of tortillas, a lot of beans, peanut butter, jelly. Definitely when at gas stations, you treat yourself to some ice creams and snickers. I drink a ton of water throughout the day. I stay very hydrated.  And yeah, a lot of times it's not the healthiest food.  And yeah, it's probably not good for our teeth. It's a lot of sugar and we're burning through a lot of it because we're burning a lot of calories. But that's essentially it. Lots and lots of beans and snickers and ice cream. And ice cream. Oh, and Nutella. Nutella and peanut butter. Peanut butter is a good way to get some fat and some protein.  And for me, it's the best I've eaten. That's what makes us different. As far as nutrition wise. It is fun to eat. I've never eaten this much sugar in my existence. But it's hard to find foods that aren't sugar loaded at gas stations other than the Fritos. And even, you know, we want to be healthy. But a lot of times we're like ice cream.  Of course, you're going to go for the ice cream.  Ice cream is amazing. And also a cold soda in the middle of the day when it's super hot is there's just nothing like it. So. Muy bueno. All right, one more. Oh, our route. A lot of people have asked about our route when we're going to post it, when we're going to share it. The best way to follow along our route is really to follow us on Instagram because we're posting stories with locations in them. But we won't be posting a route until after the trip is over. And we're not doing that because we want to keep it from you. We just don't have time to deal with all that stuff, which leads perfectly into this next part. I know you've been loving the videos. I've been loving making the videos, but it has completely taken me out of the moment too many times. Like we'll have a rest day somewhere in a really cool town and I'm staring at my computer for 10 hours and I'm not interacting with Ali or the local people. And I don't want to do that anymore. I want to be here for Ali. I want to be here for me. I want to enjoy this experience to its fullest and editing these videos, having it hanging over my head, constantly, you know, logging footage from three different cameras has been really stressful on top of riding our bikes for eight to nine hours a day and camping and navigating and food and all the other stuff. So I am going to slow down with the edits. I don't know exactly what that means or how it looks. I will edit when I have time and when I feel like, you know, it's okay to leave Ali for a little bit and dig into it. So I'm sorry. Definitely not going to have two videos a week anymore. Hopefully one, but I will do all the videos. That's, I'm not saying it's over. Like if I don't make another video this entire trip when I get home in early September, I'm going to crank them all out. So this is kind of like a mid season break. And I can't thank you enough for following along. Everybody who's been a fan of this channel since day one or if you've just subscribed, you keep us going. You keep us inspired. You keep me motivated to create this content. And it's hard to let it go. It's hard to not fulfill your wishes to want more and more and more, but I need to, I need to be here in every way for Ali and for this adventure. Sorry. Thank you for tuning in. And do you have anything else to say? Um, no. All right, we're going to just have a nice night in this little town park here in Nebraska. We're headed to Iowa tomorrow for Rack Brie. If anybody's at Rack Brie, come look for us. We're the stinky people. Thank you so much.