Good morning and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Krista Burns, here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the Library Commission's weekly online event, a webinar, a webcast, an online show.  Nobody seems to be able to agree on that terminology. But we are online here live every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. central time. So come and watch whatever it is that we do here. The show is free and open to anyone to watch as are our recordings. So you can come here on Wednesdays if you're available. If not, you can go to our website and see our recordings of all of our previous shows. We include the recordings. If there are any PowerPoint presentations or slides or presses or whatever, links to websites that are mentioned. All that show note type information is all included in there as well. We do a mixture of things in the show, presentations, many training sessions, book review sessions, interviews. Basically anything, if it's library related, we have it on the show. And we have Nebraska Library Commission staff that do sessions sometimes. And we sometimes have guest speakers that come in. And this week, it's one of our mixtures. It's our monthly tech talk with Michael Sowers, a technology innovation librarian here at the Nebraska Library Commission.  Just about. Just about. Not always. Here and there, not just you. Just about. You know, whatever works. We do lots of techie type things on the show. Like last week, we did about wearable technologies, which is very interesting. But Michael comes out at the end of the month to do a tech thing as well. So I'm just going to hand over to you to talk about who you've got on the show and what we're doing today. Great. Thanks, Christa. As you said, I'm Michael. I'm the technology innovation librarian here at the commission. And it's great that you mentioned the wearable technologies last week because that was how to kind of make things. We're kind of going the opposite direction today. Although, although, yeah. Learning how things work. This is one of the ways you can do it. When hunting for or looking for topics for tech talk, more often than not, I usually kind of stumble over them. And this one falls definitely into that category. A couple of months ago, I saw a promotional post on Facebook that basically said, hey, we're doing this event at the library called Wreck the Library. And it talked about taking stuff apart. And I thought immediately, I was like, OK, we need to get somebody on the show. We've got to hear about this. So with us today is Leanne Mobley, the digital literacy librarian at the Martin County Library System in Southern Florida. Good morning, Leanne. Good morning. And she's got a presentation for us about her project and other things they do at the library. So I'm just going to, as Christa handed it over to me, I'm going to hand it over to you and let you take it away. Great. Well, good morning, everyone. And thank you both so much for having me. So today, I will be sharing our program called Wreck the Library and also giving you some tips for how to host your own tech take apart. So if you're unfamiliar with what a tech take apart is, it's essentially an opportunity to learn how things work by taking them apart. So just like Michael was saying, last week you were talking about how to make things. Today, we're going to talk about how to destroy them. So sometimes people take things apart and put them back together for a tech take apart. Other times people use the supplies to make art or create other inventions. For Wreck the Library, it was pretty much just about destruction. So that was our focus here. We hosted two of these programs for teens at two different libraries in our system. And we had great results with both. I think the recipe for this program is pretty straightforward and really easy to duplicate. But that said, I would like to take you through some of the considerations for planning and implementing this program. OK, so let's start with the most obvious question. Why host a tech take apart? Well, first and foremost, the program is very inexpensive. So I think in the end, the only thing we ended up spending money on was pizza. And when we were planning this program, we were thinking of applying for the mini-grant because we did hold it for Teen Tech Week. So we also was offering some grants for that. But ultimately, we realized that we didn't really need a grant because there was nothing that needed funding. So I can definitely say this is a very cheap program. Next up, it feels really good to break stuff. Let me tell you. We've all had a time, I think, when we were frustrated with technology and it feels really good to get out some of that aggression. So plain and simple, feels really good to break things. Another great reason for hosting this kind of program is that it's a really great way to get staff involved. And this was really an unexpected outcome of Rec the Library. And I'll tell you a little more about that later. But we asked for donations of old computers, modems, routers, and so on from our staff. And people got really excited about it. For weeks, I was getting emails saying, oh, I've got an old PC. Can I bring that in? Or I've got a drawer of cables.  Can I donate those? So we received donations from staff across the library system. And it was really cool to see everybody get involved. And I think the name Rec the Library definitely piqued people's interest. So I got a lot of questions as soon as we started advertising the event. And finally, this is what I would call an undercover learning opportunity, meaning that whether you know it or not, if you're taking apart a computer, it's really impossible not to learn something. So we didn't have any formal explanation or a lecture. But as the teens were taking stuff apart, I think naturally they would say, hey, what's this? Or some of them already knew, oh, this is a motherboard. And they'd be showing off their skills to some of the other kids. So even though they might not admit it, I think this was a really good learning experience, in addition to being a good opportunity to break stuff. So hopefully I've convinced you to keep listening. And now I'll give you a little bit of background information. So I'm the Digital Literacy Librarian for the Martin County Library System. I've been here for about a year now. And my background is in film production and art. Something that I do want to point out about myself is that I'm not a teen librarian. And also, even though I do consider myself to be a techie, I don't have a ton of experience with hardware. So I think the only requirement to host a tech take apart is curiosity. If you're interested in hosting a similar program and you're a little apprehensive, I can assure you it really doesn't have a lot of prerequisites. Just curiosity on your part. So I manage our IDEA Labs. And I wanted to tell you a little bit about those. These are our digital creativity labs. So this is where we encourage our patrons to experiment with technology and to use our software and tools to create things. So the IDEA Lab is similar to UMedia up in Chicago or of the same name, the IDEA Lab out in Denver. But one major difference for us is that our IDEA Labs are for all ages instead of just teens. And we actually tend to do more adult programming in the IDEA Labs. And we currently have two of these IDEA Labs. And we're planning to expand that to all six of our locations. A little information about our library system. Martin County is located in South Florida. We're along the Treasure Coast. So we're just north of Miami. And we serve a population of about 150,000 residents. So right now we have six different library locations spread across the county. And I did want to brag a little bit that I think it was last week. Stewart was named number three on the list of 20 best small towns to visit in 2015. So if you're planning a vacation, you should consider coming and visiting us out in Martin County. Now I should also tell you a little bit about our demographics. So we are in Florida. About 28% of our residents are 65 or older. So many of our patrons are retired. A lot of them are snowbirds. So they come down in October and November. And right about now in April and May, they're starting to head back north. So our service population does fluctuate throughout the year. And the reason I wanted to point this out is because I know a lot of libraries find it challenging to reach out to teens, to create programs for teens. But I think if we can host a successful teen program here in Martin County, then there's really no reason that it can't be done at any library. So back in November, speaking of teens, I was looking ahead at the calendar and wanted to start brainstorming ideas for Teen Tech Week. So I went to Sarah Johnson. Hopefully she's listening today. She's our literacy education and outreach manager. So I went to her because I knew that she had had luck with teen programs in the past. And when I sat down with Sarah, I was really hoping that she would reveal the secret to getting teens in the library. But as it turns out, neither of us had that secret. So instead, we listed some things that we know to be true about teens. Now, first of all, we knew there had to be food. That's a given. We also liked the idea of after-hours events. So most of our libraries are open from 10 to 5.30. And we do have some evening hours throughout the week. But like I said, a lot of our patrons are retired. So the general rules of 9 to 5 don't always apply for us. But we did want to have our event in the evening and only open up the library for teens. Now, another thing we know is that, generally speaking, teens don't like to be around adults or little kids. So we advertise the event as a program for teens ages 12 to 18. And finally, we also agreed that teens do not want to feel like they're in school when they're at the library. So it's OK to teach something, but we wanted to avoid being sort of teacher-y. We wanted something that was more hands-on without any formal lecture component. Now, my original idea was to do something with REC this journal. And if you're not familiar with this book, it's amazing.  So once you've made it through the journal, it's completely destroyed. So I'm a huge fan of the author, Kerry Smith. And I really wanted to incorporate this into our program. And I was trying to think of a tech component. So the idea of wrecking things then led me to the idea of taking apart computers. So another one of my favorite books is called Things Come Apart. So the artist, Todd McClellan, deconstructs computers, and then he meticulously organizes them and the pieces and photographs them. So the photographs are really beautiful. And even though we didn't really worry as much about the finished product, I think this is another direction you could take this program if you did want to incorporate photography or video. So we looked around at some other libraries and museums and had a pretty good idea of what our tech take apart would look like. But I didn't really want to focus more on wrecking things. So I kind of had this visual in my head of teens going crazy and destroying things. And I just loved that. And I really couldn't let it go. So I thought of the scene in office space. There's the characters can't seem to get the printer to work, so they take it out into a field and there's this incredible montage of them destroying the printer with a bat and they're kicking it. It's really awesome. So I have linked to it here. But I wouldn't mind at all if you close out of this and open up YouTube and watch it because it's really fantastic. So the next step in putting together Wreck the Library was to actually gather materials for us to destroy. So I sent out a department wide email just explaining what the program was and also listing some suggestions for possible donations. So originally we considered asking patrons for donations or going through existing library equipment that was already broken and maybe using that. I think every location has at least a drawer or two full of this stuff. But using anything that was library property would have required getting permission from the county. So we knew that was going to be more effort than it was worth. We also chose not to ask patrons for donations because we were afraid that they would continue to bring things in after the program had taken place. And then at that point we'd have to figure out what in the world we were going to do with all this junk. So we stayed away from that. But asking library staff and volunteers for donations really worked out just fine. So we asked, we have tech liaisons at each of our branches. So I just asked each of them to sort of collect the supplies up until a week before the event. And then we had our courier transport everything to the right library. So the only issue with materials was that after the first program, because we did have two separate rec the library programs, and after the first one, everything was so thoroughly destroyed, I thought we would be able to recycle some things and use them again. But we were almost completely out because they really did rec everything. So we had to, after the first one in a week's time, had to round up some more donations. So I would say it's better to collect more than you need because if you tell teens they can destroy something, they definitely will. And lastly, we did also save some donations from the friends of the library. Usually they put those things in the trash, but we just asked them to, things that are too dirty to sell or old encyclopedias. So we just asked them to hang on to those for us. So here's a list of some recommendations for supplies. Computer towers were definitely a big hit. So computer towers and laptops, because they do have so many different pieces to take apart. But smaller things like keyboards are a lot of fun too because you can pop out the keys and kind of play with that. We had a lot of donations of old phones and TV remotes, and those are really easy to gather up. We also did include some old books, like I was saying. So our friends hung on to those donations, and that's where we got some VHS tapes. Those were really fun to take apart too. So when you're rounding up supplies, I would say in general, if it has screws, that means you can take it apart. So if you're not sure whether or not that's something good for this program, as long as you can find some screws, that means you can deconstruct it. So here's a few things that you'll definitely want to avoid. I'll talk a little bit more about safety. But right off the bat, these are some things that you probably don't want to bother with. So first up, tube TVs can be really dangerous, so really any older TV before flat screens and so forth, because they can hold an electrical charge for a really long time. Really any kind of TV monitor is a potential hazard, and anything with glass should be avoided. We did have a scanner at the first program, and one of the kids ran up to me and asked if he could shatter the glass, which was terrifying. So I had to pry it from his hands, and I removed the glass myself, and then there was still quite a bit to take apart, so it worked out okay in the end. But really, you can also sort of pre-wreck things. So for instance, we were hoping to sort of pre-wreck an iPod and a broken Nexus tablet that we have just by using a heat gun to remove the screen. We ran out of time before the program didn't get to do that, but that's definitely an option. So the scanner is another thing. We could have easily just taken the glass out beforehand, and then that would have been an appropriate thing to wreck. So in addition to gathering things to break, you'll also want to gather up some tools. So we already had a little computer toolkit that we had ordered on Amazon, and then we scavenged up some extra screwdrivers from each of the library's toolboxes. And honestly, I think screwdrivers and pliers are probably all you really need. It's good to get the really itty-bitty screwdrivers that come with computer toolkits because then you'll actually be able to take apart computers. But gloves are another thing that you might consider. Luckily, we didn't have any casualties, a few scratches here and there. But if you did ask your participants to wear these sort of cloth worker gloves, that would take away some of the safety risks, or you could at least give them the option if they wanted to. We also put out a hot glue gun in case anyone wanted to create something, but that didn't get a lot of play. So as far as tools go, it was mostly for wrecking things, not really for creating things after the fact. Another thing I highly recommend is doing a test run beforehand. So I had never really taken apart a computer before this program, and I wasn't really sure what to expect. So before we actually had Wreck the Library, I took apart an old cell phone that I had and an old Mac laptop. And I gotta say, it was a blast. If you had asked me to put it back together, that probably would have been a little more stressful. But just taking apart without that pressure was really fun. And then kind of trying to guess what all the different pieces are. It was a lot of fun, and it took away a little bit of the stress of not really knowing how this program was gonna play out. So if you've never done it before, find anything, just a phone or remote. If you have access to a computer, that's great. Just take something apart so you can get a feel for how it's gonna play out. So to promote our event, we created flyers, and we printed them out in quarter sheets to hand out to some of the teens. I designed our handout and ended up opting for bright colors because I had originally designed something with a lot of black. It was really cool, and it really emphasized the wreckage.  So I kind of chickened out there. But the final result was a little fluffier, but I think it still works. So we also featured this on the main page of our website a couple weeks beforehand. Like Michael was saying, we shared some of it on Facebook as well. And of course, we relied a lot on word of mouth. So we asked our children's assistants to share it with their teens. And then we also contacted some local teachers and let them know that we were having this event. So a few notes about staffing. For the first wrecked library program, there were only two staff members available. So it was just me and Sarah, and that worked out okay. But I will say that we had five for the second event and that was a lot better, especially because one of those five was Ricky and he's our IT guy, he's a genius. I mentioned before that you don't need any prior experience with taking apart computers. But at the same time, if you can call on someone who does have that experience, you'll be much better off. So Ricky was really great about answering questions and he did some deconstruction as well, which was sort of a good little demonstration, another undercover learning opportunity. So I would say in general, the more staff you can get, the better. You definitely don't want to have more staff than actual teens there though. So I guess it's a balance depending on what kind of turnout you get. And I should share some things about safety because the scariest thing about this event is that there really is the potential for someone to lose an eye or a finger. So here's a few tips that will prevent your teens from electrocuting themselves. First and foremost, if you get any donations that you're on the fence about, just forget it. So we had, I mentioned that you shouldn't do TVs. We did have a couple of donations and I thought, well, maybe we could give it a try. But in the end, I just said no and we didn't use those at all because we had enough other supplies and it's really not worth the risk. So if you don't know what it is and you're not comfortable taking it apart or you think it might be a safety hazard, I would say just forget it. Another thing you can do right off the bat is to establish a work area. So even though we had opened up the entire library specifically for this program, we definitely didn't give them access to the entire library. So I'd say it's good to focus your efforts in one area and that way you can make sure that nobody goes rogue. So that leads right into the next safety tip which is don't leave teens unattended. When we were at Moorgade, so for the first event where there were just two of us, we directed everyone to the IDEA lab which is in the back of the library. So there were times where Sarah or I would have to step away and there would just be one of us manning the fort and ideally really want at least two sets of eyes to make sure that nobody is off burning books in a corner somewhere. Luckily we did have for the first event some parents kind of hung around and were reading books in the magazine area. So in that sense we had some extra sets of eyes but definitely better to have a few staff members available. So the last thing that you wanna do is, well you wanna lay down the law right away. So at Moorgade I wrote on this whiteboard, wreck the library, don't wreck yourself which I think helped a little although you can see here that one of them crossed it out and said no safety. But I think it's good to just establish that right off the bat. I welcomed everyone as they came in and I showed them what supplies they could choose from and then I just included a brief safety message please don't hurt yourself, be safe and so on. So it's good to clarify that even though we want them to be destructive we really don't want them to hurt themselves or others. So it's good to establish that right away. Leanne, we do have a question that I think is maybe related to this part. Someone wants to know if you have participants find a release form of any sort? Oh, you know, we didn't go that route. I suppose that's something you could do. I really feel like if you have enough staff members, enough eyes and ears, I don't think it's an issue. But I don't know, I guess if you had, if you knew you were gonna have, let's see like 30 or 40 teens, at that point I probably would. Yeah, more of a chance of something. Well yeah, I recently took a part at Old Portable Hard Drive and trying to find the screws and everything. But I did come out with a couple of bandages on my fingers from screwdrivers and stuff. So I tend to not be the person who thinks of signing a release form but I can see somebody really kind of saying, wanting that for just in case a screwdriver slips and slices someone's hand. No, that's a good point. And I feel like for us, the most destructive kids, their parents were there. So we could tell right away like that they were gonna be little terrors and it was like, well, you know, grandpa's sitting right there. So if anything happens, he can handle it. But yeah, not a bad idea, definitely. Okay, thanks. All right, so next up, that brings us to actually setting up for the program. So a few days prior to the first program, we removed hard drives from all the computers that were donated. That was specifically requested by a lot of our staff because obviously they didn't want any of their information getting out there. And we also tried to remove the power supplies. So that gets rid of any electrical hazards. We did miss one in one of the computers and luckily Ricky saw it as one of the kids was taking it apart and he just ran over and said, nope, I didn't grab it from his hand. So everything was okay. But like I said, eyes and ears, very important. We laid everything out on a big, long table and then we just spread out tools at sort of smaller work stations. And because our event was after hours, Sarah was sure to contact facilities and have them turn on the AC because even though it was March, it is Florida. So there you go, it was hot. One thing that did happen was that our cleaning crew showed up during the first program and they had the most terrified looks on their faces when they saw these teens just totally destroying everything. So we probably should have warned them beforehand but we did at least assure them that they wouldn't have to clean up after us. So it ended up okay in the end. All right, so that's enough talk about logistics. So now I'll share with you sort of how it all played out. So the first round of Wreck the Library was here at the Moorgate Library. Like I said, Sarah and I were the only staff members here but up until it started, to be honest, we weren't really sure if anyone was coming. So we started, the library closed at 5.30. We started at six o'clock. So we were kind of hanging out, trying to determine if anyone was gonna show up. But sure enough, we did have about 10 teens which for us is really great. And some of their parents took around, like I was saying, to get in on the action too so you can see there's a mom here and she was taking apart stuff too. And that was okay.  So his grandpa had actually emailed me before the program and asked if he could attend even though he was much younger. And at the time I thought, well, I don't know if we're gonna get a turnout so I may as well say yes and let him come. But in a lot of our pictures, he's blurry because he was running all over the place and he wasn't trying to take things apart so much as just be thanks to death. So you can see in this picture that he's just banging a pair of pliers against this laptop. So even though we encouraged destruction, he really did become a safety hazard to himself and almost to other people. So throughout the night some of the other kids were sort of chiming in and telling him to calm down. So I think overall it's just best to not have kids in this event. Now he wasn't the only one who didn't hold back but I'd say it was about half and half. So some of the kids were really, really focused and they were really meticulously deconstructing these materials. And then the other half were really wrecking the library. I mean, it was kind of nuts at first. And another random thing that happened at Morgade was that a lot of kids wanted to take stuff home and some of them were talking about even selling things which I think is kind of hilarious because everything was totally and shambles by the end of the program. So I don't know who's gonna buy that but something to consider whether or not people can take away materials after you're done. So here's some more kids. Like I said, they were pretty focused and actually taking things apart but I think we should have recorded a soundtrack to this event because it really did sound like people were just banging things around. This is my partner in crime, Sarah Johnson. So she was the only person who actually made something from what they destroyed. We put out a few art supplies thinking that some people might wanna make their masterpiece but they weren't really having that. And I hate to stereotype but I do think that if we had more girls we might have seen more things being made. We didn't really push for it because we were more interested in the idea of chaos and wrecking things and learning by taking apart but that's another direction you could take if you did wanna focus more on making things. So Sarah's creation was lovely. So round two of Wreck the Library was at the Hope Sound Library and we don't have an idea lab there yet but Amy who's the children's assistant there has done some really great team programs. She has a bit of a fan base so we were hoping to tap into that. And the attendance was about the same. We had about 10 teens that night and this group was a little bit older and we did have one girl, woo-hoo. So the first time we didn't have any girls show up except for me and Sarah. And I say this event was a little more successful mostly because we did have more staff. So we were all kind of geeking out together. We were taking things apart and also setting up and tearing down was much, much easier with all of us. So the setup was pretty similar and one thing I didn't mention about Morgade was that while we were in the idea lab where we have these really great teardrop tables that fit together. So this is new furniture for us and of course I didn't really think about the fact that they would be destroying things on top of it and potentially destroy the furniture. So I didn't put any sort of cover down and luckily nothing got damaged but that really could have been a disaster. So when we were at Hope Sound we used these old six foot tables that are from the auditorium. They're pretty worn out already so we knew we didn't have to worry about it. So furniture is something to consider because whatever surface they're working on is could potentially get scratched. So something to think about as well. So here's some more wrecking going on. I think some of these guys were hoping to sell things too. I'm not really sure where they got that idea but I think most of them left empty-handed. Now destroying VHS tapes was by far my favorite thing. It is really mind-blowing how much tape is inside one VHS movie. I think we're taking apart True Lies with Arnold Schwarzenegger here. And here I am sporting my new shell which is very Zoolander derelict. But now that I think about it that's another direction that you could take this program. Wreck things and then make them wearable. Also in the background you can see another one of our Sarah's. She's cutting out pieces from a book to make a little keepsake box. So again I think generally the girls were more interested in creating and I think you could place more of a focus on making things. Maybe even do a follow-up program. So two parts, the first part is that you wreck things and the second part is that you take the components and actually create something. And there's our only girl. So she was great and she didn't make anything that night but she did take home this little computer fan and she told me that she was gonna take that home and make a sculpture with it. So that was kinda neat. And this is Ricky, our IT guru. So he wasn't able to make it to Morgate for the first round but it was really really great having him at Hope Sound. If you have any IT staff who can help out I highly recommend reaching out to them. He has years of experience and he's also a really good teacher so he helped out a lot. And he also volunteered to vacuum at the end of the night so that was another bonus. In retrospect, there's a few areas where I have one question that came in. About how many hours long was each of those events? Oh yeah, so we did, each one was just an hour and a half long. Yeah, so between the first hour was total destruction and then we fed them with pizza to get them to come down. Okay, thanks. So I'm sorry to say that there's a few areas where we did drop the ball. The biggest one, and I hate to admit this but I'll be honest, is that most of our supplies wound up in the trash afterwards instead of being recycled. So we do have an e-recycling center here in Stewart and I was able to take a small round of things that I had in the trunk of my car after the fact but that was really something where I should have researched that beforehand because at the end of the night, we were all tired and wanted to clean up and I thought we would sort of temporarily store things but we didn't really have space for storage. So at that point it was like, should I put everything in my car or just put everything in the dumpster? So I'm sorry to say that most of it did end up in the trash but I think there's options. So you just have to look locally and see if you have any sort of tech recycling places in your area or if there's a place where you can store things because like I said, you could do a follow up program and use the materials for crafting or other things but because of storage for us, we just had to get rid of most things. Let's see. So another thing like I was telling you is that I think you do really need to be strict about the age limit. If you wanna have the program open to kids who are younger than 12, then you would just need more staff members to supervise or maybe like we were talking about before if you did wanna do some sort of a consent form, you'd probably wanna do that with kids younger than 12. So I think our age range 12 to 18, that's probably an appropriate age range for this kind of program. And even though everything worked out fine with the first event with just two of us, it was less stressful to have more staff available because we had, like I said, Ricky was there on our side so it's just better if you can have a few more eyes and ears available. So that pretty much wraps things up for me. I did wanna share a couple more resources. The first is from the Exploratorium in San Francisco and they do something called a toy take apart.  I think that's awesome. So if you did wanna do an event for younger kids, because maybe you're a little worried about safety concerns, I think a toy take apart is a really great alternative. Now another resource I have to point out is Instructables. So there's a ton of instructions for taking apart technology there. All you have to do is just look up how to take apart blank. You'll probably find what you need. And they also have one called how to take things apart without killing yourself. So great resources there. But that's pretty much everything I have for our Wreck the Library program. So now I'll open it up if anybody has any other questions. Great, thank you. As she just mentioned, and as you can tell, we've already taken a couple of questions from the audience. Please feel free to type those questions into the Q&A. Krista is monitoring those and also we will happily listen to your dulcet tones. If you have a microphone, please. We would love for somebody to speak their question. I was kind of writing questions as we were going along and you ended up answering most of them. It was usually like the next slide. So that's a good sign. But I do have a few others. You mentioned the computer tool kits that you had. I have one of those myself. And I saw obviously the kid with the pliers, which I know that's not the type of pliers that are typically in a computer toolkit. So what other tools and or implements of destruction did you have beyond the computer tool kits? Beyond the computer tool kits? Really just like those pliers that he was using to beat that laptop. But yeah, I grabbed some pliers. I just went through our library's main toolkit. So like where the hammer is and the different screwdrivers. So I just grabbed everything that we had on hand. I think screwdrivers are the biggest thing. And then pliers will help you sort of if you just want to pry things apart. But as far as the electronic toolkit, it was great for the really small screwdrivers, but almost everything else in the kit we didn't really need. So it's really just screwdrivers to get into those tiny little screws on like the TV remotes and the computers. But other than that, I think the tools that you need are pretty minimal. Yeah, and I know when you get into, as I learned the hard way, taking apart the hard drives, you get into those like star-shaped screws and those really weird ones that those computer tool kits can help with. So did you have kids other than the one? We'll kind of leave him off to the side. Your pictures kind of implied they tended to be a little more methodical and trying to take them apart properly for lack of a better term. Did you have somebody, just take a hammer to a computer case and be tearing it apart? Yeah, maybe I shouldn't share it to video because I think, I say it was half and half, but some of those kids were really, the first event, like Sarah stepped away, I think she was ordering the pizza. For a second, I was a little bit scared because they just went at it, like a lot of the kids were just like banging things apart. And I was like, I had to kind of go over there and be like, all right, I want you to wreck it, but you can't like see how there's a screw there. You have to unscrew that. You can just beat a screwdriver against it. You probably want to actually take those screws out. So it was definitely chaos, which is what I wanted. So I was kind of laughing because I'm like, in the moment I'm thinking, oh, this was a terrible idea for a second. I had a moment of panic and then I was like, you know what, this is exactly what I wanted. Everything's going to be okay. They almost sort of, a lot of the teens kind of like cover themselves. Like I was saying, they kind of were looking at each other and going, dude, don't do that. Or like, dude, what are you thinking? Well, and on that, have you considered safety goggles for the next time around? Oh, that's another good point. I should have added that to the list. So I think gloves and goggles are a thing where if you are concerned, well, yeah, good point. Gloves would definitely be a good thing to have on hand. Or I'm glasses rather, goggles. I think this goes on. Someone just actually asked related to this. I think it's related. Did you give them any introductory instructions other than the safety first? Like maybe that kind of thing of, here's how you can take something apart, or did you just put this stuff out and say, go to it? We really, it was really hands off on our part. We just, yeah, we just showed them where everything was. Once they actually sat down, everybody kind of picked one thing from the table and then sat down with it and either started beating it to death or trying to take it apart. So we did kind of just make our way around and give tips or, and they were giving tips to each other too, but it was really informal as far as there was no, there was no instruction really. It was just sort of as we went, they were asking questions or trying to help each other take things apart. So yeah, it was definitely very informal. And did you have the kids, or might you in the future have them help clean up? They did help us clean up, which was good at the first one, not as much, but definitely at the second one, they helped us clean up. And that's where it came in where they really wanted to take stuff home. And it was like, are you crazy? What are you gonna do with this? Oh, I can sell this online. Okay, good luck with that. So we said, if they wanted to take things, we did let them take them because like I said, a lot of it, we just ended up throwing away, but yeah, very strange. So are you gonna do it again? I think we will. Probably not until next year's Teen Tech week. Okay. But I think some of us are afraid that we'll get too many donations of things. Like I said, storage is an issue. So as far as collecting things and hanging on to things, we just don't really have the space for that. But I could easily see us doing this next year for Teen Tech week again. And one of the ones I had written down, which you then did was the, had you thought about doing a, there's the take apart, and then a separate program of creating art out of it. I mentioned that that was an idea. I think that sounds like an interesting possibility. Yeah, and a lot of the images that I used for these slides today are, when I did my pre-test and I took things apart, I photographed all the pieces, and I had a lot of fun doing that. So I think that's a really cool way to bring up photography. You could do things with like time-lapse video of you taking things apart. These kids in particular, I think really had no interest in any kind of follow up. But if we had framed it that way, framed it as a two-part thing, and really promoted it that way, I think that could definitely work. Right. And do you, what might you do differently to try to get more girls to show up? That's a good question. I think if we did a two-part workshop and the second, or even in one program, it was more emphasis on making things. I think that would have drawn in more girls. Okay. Yeah, maybe the destruction is more appealing to boys. Again, I hate to stereotype, but maybe. Maybe, yeah, I don't know. I know I enjoy taking things apart. It's the putting back together that's the hard part. So, yeah. Yeah, that's not hard. Are there other questions coming from the audience at this point? I've got one that's a little off topic, so I want to save that for the audience. Yeah, not a question, but just someone has a comment, I guess I'll call it. Someone says at their library, they're doing a how it works style summer reading program this year, where they show up with a box of computer parts, and then finish with a complete running machine. Here's the parts, and I'm going to make it into something. He says, this destruction, construction programs are pretty good for middle schoolers, teens, and curious adults. So this could also be, it doesn't have to be just a teen. I've done that with adult librarians, where here's where we take it apart, and pass the pieces around, and put it back together when we're done, and hopefully it still turns on. More often than not it did. So, you know, there you go. Yeah, I think a program like that, you probably have more to gain as far as you can learn a lot more that way. I think, but that said, I think the beauty of this program is that it requires a lot less planning, less expertise, it's a little more free form. So I think either one has its pros and cons. Yeah, and it gets them into the library, and it's fun. I mean, so they are learning something, even if it's not strictly organized, and they can say exactly what they learned at the back end. So my kind of slightly off topic question, based on one of your pictures, I saw you had a Raspberry Pi sticker on what looked like your lanyard. Oh, yes. Are you guys doing anything with pies in the library? We're doing a little bit. The gentleman who was in my position before, they received a Best Buy grant, and so we got Raspberry Pi kits, Arduino kits, Lego Mindstorms. Ooh, nice. So I was completely new to all these things when I started at this position, mostly just coming in with some enthusiasm and curiosity, but I would say I'm still kind of trying to wrap my head around Raspberry Pi. We have done some, a few drop-in programs. We did one for Pi Day, so we played around with the Raspberry Pis and just hooked them up to monitor it, but most of you were just playing games. So I would say we're kind of, I'm still just sort of scratching the surface for programming with these tools, because they're really awesome, and there's a lot that you can do with them, but I am struggling to find things that you can do in a short amount of time. Right. I want to do a program that's like an hour and a half, two hours tops, and then it's also hard because they can't take them with them. Like if you have less expensive sort of wearables and stuff that they can take away, that's really nice, but if they make something really cool and that's like, well, that's that, give it back, it's kind of a little bit heartbreaking. Yeah, and the Pi by itself is really just a small computer. So once you've kind of explained that, it's not that different than, here's, let's do something with this laptop. But then you start connecting it to those other things and then it gets a little more interesting, so. Yeah, I think you have to do, maybe like summer workshops or ongoing programs if you really want to do something cool because it's hard to do one and done with those things, but they are awesome. Yep, so that's it for my questions. Anything else from the audience? This is your opportunity. You mentioned some videos, are those online somewhere that we could link to after the fact or are those? Oh, videos like the office space club? Or no, well, I think I thought you said you took some video of the kids. Oh, no, we didn't. Okay. We had because, or at least some sound because that probably wouldn't work. Okay, my mistake, I misunderstood that. I just have a comment said, they're getting ready to use the Pi's here in the library for remote temperature and humidity monitoring in our storage areas. Okay. Yeah, if you hook your Arduino to it. Rather than, you know, doing a program but just the library saying, hey, we can actually use these some totally different, you know, angle. I think they're great OPEC workstations too because they're super tiny and very little powered, but. All right. And just to comment, great program, Leanne. I think I'll be exploring this option here soon. Yeah, I want to do one. I want to go with 10 one. Very cool. I'll be in Jacksonville in June, but maybe a little too much of a commute for me down there, but. Oh, but we're the number three top, you know, small town to visit. Unfortunately, I'm literally flying in, doing something and flying out the next day. Otherwise, I would love to come visit. But anyway, one day. So Leanne, thank you very much. That was wonderful. That was kind of everything I hoped it would be. It looks like just a lot of fun. And, you know, if in the end, just the people watching this are inspired, I think we've done our job with that. So I think with that, we're gonna take back control for a little bit. I just have, I'll let Krista take the controls there. I just wanted to take a minute. This is, if I did the looking up right in our archives, this was the 63rd tech talk that we've done as part of the show. And the first one was on December 30th, 2009. So at the end of our first year, we started this up. And then if I really looked right, all but four of them have had guests of one form or another. So that was a little, I had eyeballed that one, just a little more, including though, we have had some with multiple guests when we did shows at conferences and things like that. So, well, kind of pushing 70 some guests on this. And as some people may know, this is actually the last tech talk. I am moving on to another position here in Nebraska. So I just wanted to take this opportunity to, A, thank all of the guests that I've brought onto the show. You've all been absolutely wonderful and I've learned a lot from you. And I wanna thank Krista also sitting next to me for being the host of Encompass Live and doing a great job. And Encompass Live will continue. No, I'm not going anywhere. Yeah, no, Krista is not going anywhere. I am. She's like, see, there's more. So yes, there is not gonna be a tech talk next month. I don't know if somebody else comes on, if they'll pick it up again or not. But although it looks like you did get a tech topic for at the end of next month, Blake again, right? For doing security. Yeah, listen to Blake. He knows security. He runs my websites. He knows security. I actually looked it up and I don't know, it's been a couple of years. It has been, yeah, 2012. But we also have our videos, our recordings go into the Internet Archive. We have a channel in there. His old one from 2012 is the most viewed on the Internet Archive. Really? Not the most viewed of our YouTube channel. So it's interesting. Right, different people know, yeah. YouTube versus the Internet Archive. It's the one that comes up with the most views of the Internet Archive of all the Encompass Lives. Wow. And ours on YouTube are usually cataloging and summer reading programs. Oh, okay. Yes, all right. Hit the top. But in the Internet Archive, tech. I wanna know that. Security. I kind of believe that. Actually, I really do. So I just, like I said, I wanna thank all of my guests. I wanna thank Krista for putting together this wonderful show and letting me have one show a month. And so that is gonna wrap it up for Tech Talk. All right, thank you, Michael. Thank you, Leanne. Thank you, everyone, for attending this week. As I said at the beginning, the show has been recorded and will be available later this afternoon, most likely. I did grab, Leanne will be sending me her slides, I believe, and I did grab links to the Instructables thing, the book Take Apart, and the other books. I found both those books that she mentioned in WorldCat. So I've linked to those. So you have quick links to those everywhere. Whoops, that's not everything else. That's how to get a hold of Krista. Yeah. So it will be available in our archives, which I just was showing you before to show where all of our other tech talks are here as well, with links to everything, as I said, slides, recording, and links, yeah. Presentation. Presentation, yeah. And we have all of our recordings here going back to the very first one, January 2009. So if you do wanna watch anything that we've ever done before, go on here and take a look at them. And that hopefully will join us next week when our topic is, let's make this look good, graphic design for maximum engagement. Megan Frost is a librarian in Paul Smith's College in New York, is gonna do a session on doing basic graphic design principles for doing marketing and flyers and things like that. So for many of us librarians, we don't have training in that area necessarily. It's a separate thing, but you can do it. And this was a requested topic, wasn't it? It was, yes, we did a request. We had somebody submit a request. Yes, someone asked for, if we're someone that they really wanted help at their library doing this kind of thing, and they weren't sure they were trying, oh, yeah, stuff doesn't look that good. And could we get something? And I found she actually did this session up at the Midwest Library Technology Conference in Minneapolis. Sounds right. Yes, upper Midwest. It's our middle of the country library technology conference. And I was just fruiting their agenda and I contacted her and she's gonna be on the show with us next week to tell us all about that. And I also hope you'll join us for all of our future shows too. The week after that, we have Courtney Young, current ALI president, is gonna come on and chat with us. So that'll be Courtney on the show again. She was on years ago before she was a big name in the book. So. We had her first. Yes. It was actually one of the things we did together, out, computers and libraries. It was one of the conferences, yep. What we call onsite. Onsite live sessions.  Other than that, if you are a big Facebook user and CompassLive is on Facebook, please do go ahead over there and like us. We post when new shows are coming up, when recordings are available. 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I'm Saptan Bharti and we are here in Vancouver, Canada for OpenStack Summit and we have today with us Maksha Daburth. I mean I met you in 2005 in India, we are walking around habitat center and you're talking about space, you're you know travel to space and I mean we have known each other for so long and we are bumping into each other like we last time. NWC multiple other conferences. And last time we met at OpenStack Sydney, OpenStack Summit in Sydney. Yes. So tell us you know how much has changed in these you know six or seven months? So I think the most important headlines would be OpenStack's getting real. So all of the heart air has come out but people still have the hard business problem right which is how do I automate my infrastructure, how do I offer up infrastructure as a service from my own data centers. I'd say AI has come screaming forward we see you know institutions across a very wide range of sectors effectively racing to stand out machine learning capabilities, hire machine learning people and support them effectively. And then IoT has started to sort of really get focused on issues of security, issues of authenticity, integration between the edge and the cloud. Yeah I was at Open IoT Summit and security was almost everybody who you talked to. Yeah. For Zypher OS to everybody they were talking about security. So let's connect some dots first of all. I mean I do know that you have core know when to core for but from OpenStack's perspective when you are here and you meet partners and for IoT what kind of trend do you see? Oh I think the IoT conversation is too far away from the OpenStack conversation for me to be worrying about it here. I would say you know telcos are a place where this comes together. So in a telco meeting we will often be talking to a group that's thinking about cloud infrastructure, age cloud infrastructure and IoT. So in the telco context I'd say IoT and OpenStack kind of meet under the same roof. Right. A few weeks or months ago OpenStack Foundation came up with the white paper around edge computing which is almost all about IoT kind of. So when you look when you talk about IoT from OpenStack's perspective what unique challenges are there because a lot of this may be made at. No I don't think I wouldn't connect those conversations right I wouldn't connect those conversations. So what's interesting about edge computing is that within a large organization of course different groups have a different boundary and that's their edge right so within a large telco you'll have big data centers the edge of that is the beginning of the next transport segment effectively. You'll have a smaller data center which has an edge and all the way out to some router or gateway at the customer premises and each of those teams effectively wants to talk about edge computing. For us you know it's very exciting for us every single reference architecture for edge cloud that's been published by a telco has Ubuntu and has Maz and I think the reason for that is pretty simple. First the one problem that everybody has to solve in edge cloud is physical provisioning because the one thing you can be sure of is that there's no human there right that's you know where's there there is everywhere and so you have to have that bare metal automation that Maz is so good at it's the smallest piece of software that can automate you know from a machine which is switched off to a machine which is running Windows, CentOS or Ubuntu right so Maz is in every reference architecture published so far and Ubuntu is in every reference architecture published so far because of the economics right. People want the latest Linux for their developers because they want to put cutting edge applications there maybe AI applications at the edge but they also know that they're going to have you know hundreds of thousands of servers at the edge and so they want the economics to be really good they won't use VMware they won't use other Linuxes. Well we're talking about Maz when we look at OpenStack you know there used to be three components storage, compute and networking you know so Maz mostly talks about compute right. That's right well it'll also know about all the disks in the machines so it's it's it's sort of a simple version of storage right it'll just tell you you know how many disks are in this machine how many disks are in that machine and it'll let you configure those disks for Windows or configure them for Linux right and then with regard to networking again Maz is only thinking at the level of the rack so it doesn't do all of the complex stuff that OpenStack does with tenancy and software-defined networking all of those things it's really just talking about the switch the switch ports and the servers and the disks. But two other component storage and networking is also critical and canonical works with you know all those telcos as well so how are you also planning to bring some story solutions or you're planning to engage with the NFB communities also from canonical perspective or not? I think there are two obvious storage stories that go everywhere one is directly attached storage which is basically just the disks in the machine that's hosting the app or the VM and the other is Ceph as a distributed store now we do see appetite there are people who are buying proprietary software-defined storage solutions to integrate into OpenStack Kubernetes and other things at this stage I wouldn't say that there's any of those that strikes me as being a breakout success but clearly there are some gaps in the market because we do see companies you know selling to our customers as part of canonical OpenStack or sort of edge cloud distributions. I'll just talk about OpenStack one more time before we move to it. Last time when we met at Open Sydney the focus from the foundation was more on collaboration and composability what has been the theme this year? Well the foundation has generalized its mission from OpenStack to Open Infrastructure and they've introduced a couple of other projects alongside OpenStack, Carter containers, it's really a sort of a next-generation KVM from Intel where I think there's some really good research and development I mean there's some really good thinking about virtualization right which I think is actually useful for OpenStack generally but they've positioned it as a container security mechanism and then Zool which I haven't really looked at so I can't speak to. You know this summit for me has been very interesting you know that I caused some controversy by putting a spotlight on the economics of ownership but I think it's very clear to me that everybody who's here at the OpenStack Summit is here because they feel they're responsible for a data center and they want that data center to have OpenStack in it and they want that OpenStack to work and they want it to cost a reasonable amount of money. We can't ignore economics the public cloud is great and the public cloud makes data centers a simple economic proposition so that's why I took such a strong focus on the money right for people to want OpenStack they have to believe that it's going to come in at a price that makes sense in a cloud world and so I was simply showing that Canonical delivers OpenStack we deliver it within two weeks guaranteed we deliver it with hardware partners so we really simplify the acquisition of the hardware the reference specification all of those things we will operate it and when we're operating it you have the exact line of sight on pricing right you know exactly what OpenStack is going to cost you it's half of what you might pay for kind of traditional proprietary enterprise solutions and that means it's competitive with the public cloud I'm not trying to say people shouldn't use the public cloud actually they should use the public cloud right you want to own a house and you want to rent some space occasionally right or sometimes if you need a conference center you want to rent the conference center right public clouds are great private data centers are great if they're economical and automated and when you said open infrastructure where does Canonical fit into that new theme of OpenStack the vision for Ubuntu is that it delivers the best open source software and it delivers it in a format which is enterprise grade upgrade friendly developer friendly right with it with a clean and cost-effective support structure operations set of services around it right so whatever open source emerges from the open infrastructure world or from the container world or from everywhere else in open source right our job is to make sure that you know what comes out of out of research and development or community development is consumable by enterprises in a way that is super predictable and to do that more cost-effectively than anybody's ever done it before initially you also touched upon the hype cycle of is over nowadays we often hear you know a Kubernetes is everything or containers are the days of open stack and number what do you have to say about that is it like true or they will I don't see open stack and Kubernetes competing with each other I mean we we have an offering where we say we will build an open stack and fully manage it and then you can have as much Kubernetes as your different dev teams want on top of that open stack and it's all included one price so those two things don't compete with each other at all another example is for AI say you say you've bought a bunch of racks and you filled them with GP GPUs and now you have lots of different teams in the business that you want to be using those GP GPUs open stack is a brilliant solution you redeploy open stack we create instance types that have GP GPUs teams then create their own Kubernetes on top of the VMs the performance of the AI code inside those VMs isn't really governed by the virtualization right the performance is all on the GP GPUs right but you have very good security and isolation and sharing of those GPUs between different tenants effectively in the building so to me open stack and Kubernetes go together really elegantly you see the same thing on the public cloud right the Azure Kubernetes service on top of Azure you have the Google Kubernetes engine on top of the Google cloud right so I don't know why everybody's all kind of the reason I asked you this question is because I want to reiterate the message you know that there is no conflict as such no sometimes you have mentioned being mentioning AI a lot of time I will go to AI at the end but I'll just touch upon IoT one more time before the use cases of IoTs are like industrial IoT is Nassio consumer IoT is totally different so various canonicals focus remember we were a gateway to the open source platform right and so I didn't want us to spend all of our attention on self-driving cars right the self-driving cars generally run Ubuntu but I didn't you know that's work for Audi and Volvo and and Google and Uber right I want to make sure that that if they use Ubuntu they get a highly secure platform where they can do updates three times a day right with perfect reliability yes right so we've invested a lot in security we've invested a lot in new update mechanisms and software delivery mechanisms to Ubuntu but our product is just Ubuntu like we're not we're not offering a self-driving car solution we're offering the most reliable Linux for self-driving cars right we're not offering a drone solution we're offering the most reliable Linux for a software defined drone platform we're offering the most reliable Linux for an intelligent camera platform we're offering the most reliable Linux for you know a refrigerator platform wherever people want to go and innovate that innovation looks like something physical a little server motherboard Ubuntu Ubuntu core if they're doing it at scale and in production right and then a set of snaps that represent the unique capabilities of that piece of IoT right the motherboard is standard Ubuntu core is standard we take responsibility for the kernel the OS effectively and all the security associated with that we take responsibility for isolating the applications from each other but they take responsibility for their apps right when you look at IoT there are I see three components one is hardware one is of course the OS that is an application that people run and in terms of security all three play a big role recently Microsoft announced a sphere OS which is running Linux kernel but they also have MCU you know so they have some influence over the hardware as well so when you talk about IoT what kind of influence canonical and having the hardware label to ensure that that those two layers are also secure so so first I kind of just wanted to celebrate the moment of Microsoft sphere right at first I think it's a it's a it's a great moment for Linux and it's a great moment for Microsoft right second it's a great moment for Ubuntu core because I read the the sphere white paper which is published in 2018 by Microsoft it's super credible forward-looking technology company and there are seven key ingredients that they identify if you look at our design documents for Ubuntu core we identified all of those things and we built it as free software over the last six years so what's kind of yeah it's kind of fantastic for me is you know we always talk about how free software is always kind of playing catch up to the big guys and proprietary guys but look at what we've done with the Ubuntu core right where we started with six years ahead right and we've delivered this completely open platform right essentially a free software IoT platform that meets every single one of the tests that that the Microsoft guys put out in their white paper that's amazing all right so I'm super proud of that so I'm asking is it was there an influence from canonical or two or it's like independently they were no no I'm not suggesting I'm not suggesting that and we certainly never had any conversations right I think small people come to come to conclusions but I think that's a real deep validation of of our kind of thinking deeply about the next wave of problems and then investing in in things that maybe not everybody understands so they can easily become controversial you know how things can get controversial in the Linux and I try to avoid that yeah right and yet if we don't do that we can't be there at the table when the game really unfolds right so I mean I think our Ubuntu or Unity has been ahead of the time a couple of times but what then goes wrong you know that you know we don't kind of you know succeed in delivering you know the I mean we have great ideas you know as you said you know you're ahead of Microsoft in that sense oh look I think you need you need a bunch of things to come together to be successful you need to have the right idea right you need to be committed to that you know nothing useful happens you know overnight it takes 10 years to make an overnight success right I think you need to have the trust and support of the people around you and I think that's a little bit difficult because I think that the open source community in the Linux community is very quick to rush to judgment on new things and very quick to get tribal like if that's a new thing from x oh then it must be a terrible thing right we haven't even looked at x haven't looked at the source code haven't you know what I mean but people get very emotional about things that don't matter like which company it came from good example of this is MySQL from Oracle right it's still MySQL it's still open source they're still investing a ton in it right it's great right but suddenly it's easy to troll people into getting angry about that because it's Oracle that's crazy that's crazy right so I think you you you need to have the right idea you need to have the support you need to get given the rope and the community does need to sort of get used to trusting people to go chase ideas like that chase a dream you need to execute you know if the code is shit then you're gonna fail right right and and you know if I look at Unity for example it was the right idea we had some we had some stress with the community there was also problems in the code right you know we we we were doing a lot of things too quickly and and and so then we took too long to get it to a position of real quality and I you know I'll take responsibility for that right you also need to have a business model for it exactly we forget about that in open source but the truth is you know people will have to eat and you know they will disappear into other proprietary worlds unless we can find good ways to feed them and so again when ideas have been put to the open source community it's healthy for the open source community to respect the idea that there's business going on that's part of why I stood up here on stage and said look focus on the economics of the data center right you can't just kumbaya and says all wonderful that we're here together again in Vancouver talking about a bunch of these shiny projects which might be useful in five years time if you haven't yet solved the economics of the data center right after seven years so I think all of those things have to happen you know when you when you get all of those things together it's great and when you don't you learn something right right right one of the one of the key points of your keynote actually was the demo that you gave at the end but it got kind of buried in the controversy do you like to talk about that or should we switch to AI sure so what what I demoed was work between Google canonical and other companies to standardize the sort of open source workflow for machine learning AI and we and I wanted to show how that helps people essentially empower a set of developers to work on AI applications effectively which they can use in the data center on open stack or bare metal so that's basically I was showing canonicals open stack canonicals kubernetes and then kubeflow on top of that or they can take those apps and take them to the Google cloud and there you've got the Google cloud Google kubernetes which uses Ubuntu effectively so we can have exactly the same stack and kubeflow on top of that again which uses Ubuntu so we have this portable layer between your data center and the and the public cloud and then I showed something really cool which is microkates exactly it's a it's a one command install of upstream kubernetes it's super light it works on fedora works on open suzer it works on Ubuntu works on debian right so any of the major Linux distributions and any of the minor distributions that's like like the specialist distributions that's keen to have snaps it's dead easy to enable snaps now it's all upstream so snap install microkates and you then get a a single node kubernetes the latest version of kubernetes and kubeflow can sit on top of that so now from your laptop to the rack to the cloud you have a beautiful kind of developer cycle and then you could take your AI application you can take your model that you've trained turn that into a snap and ship it to iot okay before we wrap up you're here at the conference you have met a lot I mean you meet your partners either way that you don't have to be at a conference what are the big challenges problem that you think that they are facing that the the community is still now solving or looking into that should be solved I think the the biggest challenge with OpenStack is the complexity and diversity of options okay that's long been portrayed as a strength for OpenStack but I think what we're doing is we're saying look here is a set of free-tested reference architectures for OpenStack which are in production at telcos at banks at media companies at retail companies if you use those you are benefiting from all of the knowledge and all of the mistakes at all of those other companies and so it dramatically reduces the number of choices people have to make they still have choice of certain sdns for example they still have choice of some software defined storage options it's not a lockdown architecture but it is essentially a tighter sort of universe of options which are known to work known to be upgradable known to work efficiently so that's really been our kind of ruthless focus over the last year is take all of that complexity of OpenStack distill it down to the choices that really matter and then do everything we can to make it really easy for companies to go from zero to one rack of OpenStack at a reasonable price we put up this three hundred thousand dollar offer right which is one rack of great super micro kit plus a full year of managed OpenStack from Canonical so essentially you need no OpenStack skills up front you just get an OpenStack cloud now your developers can start accessing that and you can grow it as much as you need and then when it makes sense you can train your people to take over the operations from Canonical right right but on the keynote there Markolier he said you know the OpenStack is you know diversifying with the cloud it's kind of contradicts you know a kind of well you know in a in a in a community you're going to have different right that's true yeah so so clearly each of the members of the community is entitled to focus on the things they're focused on what Canonical is focused on is time to value and the cost of the OpenStack so how can we deliver OpenStack faster how can we deliver it more cost effectively right i talked about our commitment that we will deliver OpenStack anywhere in the world in two weeks yeah right and i talked about the fact that we will do it at a fixed price which fits in the budget for any department head right so any department and any company can get OpenStack in two weeks they'll then have time to figure out if that really works for them and how much they want to invest in having their own version of that or you know blinging it up right but what they what they what they don't have to do is spend months and months and months kind of studying and figuring out and making a bunch of choices that they don't really understand right because we'll put them on rails and last question then this final when i talk about Kubernetes Canonical is there when i talk about OpenStack Canonical is servers what is Canonical to do what kind of company is it well we we focused on the public cloud the data center and the IoT and so it'd be natural at any place where open source is being used as the first port of call for the data center public cloud or IoT that Canonical is going to be there because people associate us through Ubuntu they associate us with having the the best reference distribution of the best current open source software thank you Mark so much it was great talking to you again


What's up everybody Jason here for jazby's case breaks calm 2021 hip parade Jaspy exclusive basketball just sold out This is a dual case break random teams number two and it is a Black Friday Cyber Monday promo break So before I start let me copy this list of customer names And we're gonna paste you into the promo list right here So there Right, and then this is Jaspy's or hip parade Jaspy's exclusive basketball dual case RT number two And everybody is a part of that now start right there and there you go So again, congratulations to the customers that won from prism cello 110 111 12 the rest bought those straight up guys So I really appreciate it There's a team see when we get a random team per break and this is a two case break and here's your cell sheet potential big hits right there So let's roll the dice boom and we got ourselves a three to six nine times. Good luck one two three Four Nathan down to Adam Kelly three to six nine times one two three three four five six seven eight nine Boom nine nine Boston Celtics on the New Orleans Pelicans Alrighty Boston Celtics at the top for Nathan Kevin with the net Shane with the T-wills Ben with the Wizards Steven with the Grizzlies Chad Coleman with the Hornets Carl with the jazz Tom with the heat Steven with the Nuggets Nathan with the Cavs Russell with the Warriors Nathan with the Kings Rodney with the Blazers James with the Thunder Cody with the Lakers Josh Smith You have the 76ers Oliver with the Clippers Adam with the Suns Marguerite the Mavericks Brian Frank with the Knicks Josh You have the Toronto Raptors Adam with the magic as well as the Bucks or sorry. That's Adam Levy Sorry, I'm Kelly with the magic. I don't leave you with the Bucks David Lee with the Spurs Chad Coleman with the Rockets Rosario with the Pacers Sean Maddock with the Pistons Cheyam with the Hawks Nathan with the Bulls and Adam Kelly with the Pelicans. Joe. What's up, man? Happy Thanksgiving, man Oh, you didn't realize you won the box in that in that RPG Platinum. That's funny Yeah Did you open it up? Did you get anything crazy? Hopefully. All right guys, so anybody want to trade? I'll give you guys a quick minute. Did Washington lose? Wow, Washington. Well, I mean Washington had I didn't have the best year this year Washington wazoo 40 to 30. Good Lord. That is a that was a murder. I Forget it's kind of like rivalry week the ducks play the Beavers this week in Civil War. That's awesome. Oh, well, they're on a seven-year losing streak. Yeah, you guys are definitely do Definitely do I Guys give you guys another 30 seconds. I know that's probably not many people watching but you can technically try to still get one done The hell's going on here, that doesn't make sense All right, one second guys, hold on one second. Why is there so many spots? 15 That's already way more than we should I Should only have one left I think we I think we might have had 32 to start off the break All right, so in the close because they yes, Joe, I did have a good thing see me man I ain't really good.  Yeah, Jimmy. That's probably what it is. I feel like I feel like a Washington and Oregon have been more of a rivalry The last few years and you know, maybe that makes sense, right? Cuz wazoo hadn't really been in contention too much You right but obviously this year was it was a little bit better But for wazoo fans, I'm sure they're very happy, right?   Can't really talk much to Utah as In previous years. All right guys two cases. Here's the first one. That's a little salty It's okay Chad So what happened then why did it was why would Washington have a bad year the recruits weren't good this year too young? Too old What was the deal then?  No need to worry. No need to worry That is a ps8 10 rookie out of chronicles so that'll be going to the Grizzlies and SKS For the timber wolves. Look at that SP authentic patch autograph. Wow one two three four color patch NBA rookie Kevin Love and that is for the T-Wolves Going to shame with the Timberwolves Remember guys, this is a dual case or so Obviously, we have an opportunity to pull At least two cell sheet hits um From the break so Let's try to get some nice hits The logo Jerry West 37 out of 99 is Washington a private school Basely ps8 10. There you go rookie there for the Thunder James. Oh Yeah, whole Seattle. Yeah Well Mariners did well, right? They were almost in it at the end. That's something to look forward to But yeah, Seattle Kraken just started, but you know, okay, I mean I don't know. I wouldn't expect it to be the best like team in the division I don't think it was kind of like the golden nights for that year, but Seahawks Russell wasn't getting injured really changed a lot of things and he hasn't really been himself yet either What else am I missing? Kraken How did the sounders do this year? I don't know. I'm gonna ask them trying to think Paul Pierce 9 out of 10 from encased endorsements autographs gold That's for the Boston Celtics Nathan last bomb. Oh, Joe Also, but is the tour well for josec, I guess at the time How how big is it? I mean, I guess because it's a state school, right? I mean, it's just normal, right? It's like Cal State LA to UCLA Carl Malone 13 out of 20 Utah that's going to car. Oh No, I trust me and my one of my good friends is the Seattle Mariners fan been since he was a little kid in the 90s Watching Ken Griffey Jr. I mean, yeah, I know they haven't been in playoffs in a very long time, but I mean It seems to me like the one thing he always used to tell me was like see I don't always start to have the year Really good, but then they just just fall off like big time But yeah, no, uh, I'm not saying that Kraken are bad. It's just that they're not winning So I'm not saying that they don't compete every match, but it's like chat's saying right you got to win Can't be like all they almost had that right? I feel that Chad wants to win. He doesn't want to almost win Trust me.  Never won a Super Bowl But in the early 2000s, the Eagles were in the playoffs and in the nfc championship game every single year But how heartbreaking is that they're like the mini bills To go to four straight nfc championship games and then also lose the Super Bowl to Tom Brady by like three points Allen Iverson there for the Sixers Josh Smith last ball mojo Storm, yeah, I do like the sales storm. They have a They have the legend over there Yolkic Little patch autograph from crown royale 97 out of 99 for Denver Going to sks Trader fans are very happy yesterday. Terry. Thank you for being my cowboy. Uh, be beating the cowboy star Devin Booker. I think this is a chaser actually 2015 panini complete Devin Booker autograph for the phoenix sons ps a nine And that is going to adam leavey. There you go. That is a chaser Yeah, I think it's because they're in cleveland chat compared to like seattle Probably they don't blue view the mariners as the worst because they're like in a much better popular city probably in detroit is taking really That crown right now the chart lines. I feel so bad for them. I picked them as an upset this weekend And I thought they were gonna win Yanis onto the combo ps a nine prestige rookie For the bucks. I don't leave you with that one as well. All right. That was the first case Do not worry guys. We have another case I know do you think both of them go chat? I can see Russell Wilson leaving But then I can also see p carol getting fired or retired dudes Dude's like 75 or 77 already, man I would I think so right? He's in the 70s, isn't he? I thought I thought he was like in his mid 70s No, he's 70. Sorry. Sorry. I added five years to He's 70 though. But yeah, that's a little old man. I don't know. Retire soon Yeah, but Russell wasn't wasn't really happy Over there You know, it doesn't have a first round pig in like seven years the ramps They're screwed if they don't win the Super Bowl this year Shaquille O'Neill 1992 ultra ps a 10 rookie That is for the Orlando magic going to Adam Kelly Jason kid for the Dallas Mavericks go to mark 45 out of 49 from nt Yeah, I don't know. I guess Gary Payton, maybe some old Sean camp Kevin Durant sonic edition Rookie, maybe So we pulled the Devon Booker already Um, do anybody remember what other cell sheet hits we pulled so far in the cases we've done of this? Like what could I be expecting? Alan iris in another one for the Sixers from revolution Nice one there for the 76ers. Josh Smith 187 out of 200 Dearian Fox for the Sacramento Kings select rookie ps a 10 For the Kings Nathan Jones Six left guys Isaiah Thomas 1986 Fleer ps a seven I must be a rookie for him as well too He was like he's been in the league for a few years um Pistons When it's automatic Who are the Lakers playing are they mark? Lakers just seem too iffy for me this year, man I think they'll make the plows, but they're not gonna make it like and be very confident in the playoffs I don't know Well, I hope they can turn it around but It just they just don't seem like they're working too close together Oh, there you go. That's a cell sheet hit Zion Williamson red white and blue prism for the pelicans going to Adam Kelly and that's a ps a 10 Very nice So there you go. We pulled his on 21 out of 200 He was playing a lot last year chat. I haven't really kept up with uh the Boston Celtics this year and how he is being used But I know last year He played a lot and he's a good he's a good solid player I just don't know if he's fitting in too well this year or not if you're saying like he hasn't played much RJ Barrett rookie ink This wasn't a cell sheet hit, but a very nice one Yeah, I don't know Joe Pizzle I think it's warriors too man like mark saying Sons are also very cursed Three more to go Kareem Abdul Kareem Abdul Jabbar From select this looks like back in 2013 2013 14 there you go 11 out of 20 Kareem Abdul Jabbar for the Lakers that is going to Cody I'm sure you would Joe, but I'm just saying I also feel the same way as Mark saying It's not like they would play each other in the finals though. You know, they have to beat each other to get to the finals Oh, Kobe white signatures That is a go Six out of 10 Chicago Bulls Nathan I know Pizzle. You got to win in the playoffs Pizzle Anybody can win in the regular season last one guys Two out of five D'Andre Hunter Chad Don't don't don't don't do that Chad. All right. Uh, D'Andre Hunter stood line of Hawks, right? Don't do this to yourself Chad. Seattle's a fireplace to live though Yeah, it's still a member of the Atlanta Hawks and that's going to tram And there you go guys that was the two cases right there boom Um, I don't know if we'll pull up another one for another Black Friday Cyber Monday break promo, but really appreciate it guys So again, we just sold this one out here Um, look out for more and again guys, uh, still some more cyber Monday black Friday promo breaks that we can do Appreciate it guys. Jasper's case breaks.com


Hey, this is Brett and this 2020 Ram 1500 Crew Cab 5'7'' Short Box Rebel Level 1 is stock number 14223Z. I am here at Summit Automotive in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, your new and used Ram and light duty truck. Headquarters this 2020 Ram 1500 has the 5.7L V8 Hemi engine. It's paired up the 8-speed automatic transmission. This truck has been fully safety and inspected by our service shop per the state of Wisconsin inspection process. It has a fresh oil and filter change so the fluids have been checked and topped off. This truck is 100% ready to go, really nice condition all the way around. That's exactly what I'm going to do in this video. Go all the way around inside underneath, start it up, and take a look under the hood to give you the most accurate representation possible. Diamond black crystal pearls color, I shoot all my videos in 4K. If you like the videos, subscribe to the YouTube channel, click the bell notifications and get updates on the videos I do each and every day as well as having access. One of the largest catalogs of vehicle walk-arounds on YouTube, almost 9,000 videos and counting. This one comes with the painted and polished aluminum 18-inch alloy wheels and it has Goodyear Wrangler Duratrack tires. These are LT27570 R18s. I would say they have a really good amount of tread left, probably 60-70% of the tread left on those tires. The rim and underbody is exceptionally clean on this truck. This is a clean title history, clean car fax out of Tennessee. It's always been owned in Tennessee its whole life. Driver's side front fender is in excellent shape. This one does have the LED headlamps, LED running lights, and the LED fog lamps. I'm going to turn those on at the end of the video so you can see just how bright they are. You get this kind of powder coated painted front and rear bumper. You get the ram stamped grille there. It's in really nice condition in the hoods in really nice shape as well. I didn't see any major dents or dings on there and it is the sports style hood with the simulated heat extractors. Passenger's side front fender is in excellent condition as well. No major dents or dings on there and the passenger's side front wheel, no major scuffs or scrapes. Diamond black crystal pearl, one of my favorite blacks on the Rams or any truck for that matter. It's got a lot of gold flake in it and just a really cool color especially in the sunlight. This thing really sparkles really good so it's a really good looking color. As you go down this side of this 2020 Ram 1500 take note of how clean that body is, how reflective and mirror like that paint is. I take these HD videos so if you're far away or even if you're close by and you just cannot make the trip down but you're still interested in purchasing the truck you can see the truck, hear the truck and have confidence in the vehicle that you're looking at before you even get here so you can make a smart and informed mind decision from wherever you're at or just make the decision to come take a look at the truck in person. If this video helps with either of those questions or decisions let your salesman know that you saw the video was helpful and that Brett sent you. Back wheels in excellent shape and the back tires have just as much tried as the front tires. You get the plastic wheel well liner which keeps your frame and under body looking good and it should look good from Tennessee. You get some really nice eye armor painted step bars those are in great condition. Coming around to the back of the vehicle you get the LED tail lamps, the dark chrome dual rear exhaust, the rear bumper is absolutely perfect full towing package which includes a receiver hitch four pin and seven pin wiring. The tailgate is in excellent condition as well you get the four by four Ram and Rebel logos back here all blacked out as well and this one has a nice ranch truck cap has the shock down assist as well you also get a very nice spray and bed liner and that moment it does have a hitch in it can't guarantee that will be there right now it does very nice and clean back there that spray and bed liner goes on to the tailgate as well which is a nice feature that ranch cap is in nice condition to going down the driver side just as clean as that passenger side no major dents or dings on the box here and for full disclosure this back wheel is just as nice as the rest this one does have the capitalist fuel fill which is a really nice feature never get gas on your hands again and down the rest of this side the truck cab and doors all look fantastic didn't see any dents or dings on there looks really good you do get the heated power mirrors blind spot mirrors and directional signals on there as well take a quick look at the back seats the rebel package gives you this really cool black leather and cloth mesh with the tire tracks for the cloth part which is pretty cool the power slide and rear window with the built-in rear defrost these seats fold up for extra storage you get the all-weather floor mats back here these seats are heated on the outboard side to usb's to usb season a hundred fifteen volt 400 watt plug-in you also get in-floor storage with removable bins for easy cleaning you can put ice and drinks in there it's like you have too many coolers wherever you go or if you're not in wisconsin just extra storage space those snap right in you also get the red backs to the front seats which are pretty cool and the child safety locks on the back doors inside and bottoms of the doors all look really good show you the vin sticker here no Canadian trucks here and you get the tire and loading information sticker there as well inside the rebel level one package gives you the black it's actually a try mix of materials here so you get the leather which is right here you get this Gore-Tex material as they call it and then it's leather on the inside bolster and then it's that Gore-Tex material on the outside no rips or tears in those seats power driver seat with lumbar factory all-weather floor mats power pedals auto headlamps tilt telescopic steering wheel power windows locks and mirrors and these mirrors do power fold in I always like showing both sides so that you know that both sides are working properly we'll hop inside check out the models the radio and everything that this truck has to offer on the interior get the rebel animation at the beginning here you can see that this one has 22,172 miles on it you do get the seven-inch LCD display digital spinometer compass display you can change all those corners to read whatever you want so that's really cool comes with the heated leather wrapped steering wheel with the red stitching cruise and cruise controls and gear selector on the right Bluetooth and information center controls in the left audio controls on the back of the steering wheel push button start push button four-wheel drive downhill sys control this one does have the axelock part of that rebel package as well as start stop capabilities and there's your shifter for that eight-speed automatic transmission comes with the 8.4 4C radio AM FM and Sirius XM radio capabilities you also get your climate controls on here including your dual climate controls and your heated seat buttons also has your heated steering wheel controls there and your backup cameras are HG on these rams and you can zoom in on that receiver it should get hooked up to your boat camper or trailer the first time every time we also have all your different apps on here and the navigation system there's highway 41 so you know that that is working properly here's the NAVs or the apps here you get projection manager you can project your cell phone to the screen via Android auto rappel carplay we actually did them on Android auto if you want to see how that system works there's a lot of cool things you can do with that including projecting your own navigation system up to the screen and stuff so really cool down here you're more climate more tactile climate volume and tune controls including your dual climate controls heated seats and steering wheel button factory brake control or stability control tow haul to usb's to usb sees this one also has the wireless cell phone charge pad 115 volt 400 watt plug-in keyless entry remote start and power drop down tailgate you get coin holder and cup holders there passenger side format and seat are in excellent condition no rips no tears smells very clean inside this truck I don't think it's ever been smoked in and the headliner is in great shape you do get map lights right there assistant SOS buttons there as well your power side and rear window button home link buttons for your garage door security systems and lane systems and an auto dimming mirror all right let's start it up and take a look under the hood also check out all those LED lights in the front starts right up no check engine lights or anything like that other than my hoods open I would personally like to thank you for checking out the video today and hopefully from this HD video you've been able to verify the quality condition options and of course cleanliness of this truck all the way around inside and out all those lights are extremely bright under the hood we have the 5.7 liter V8 Hemi engine it does have the e-torque assist if it's got this big silver box on the front of it you know it's got the e-torque assist engine base very clean runs very smooth once again this truck has been fully safety and inspected by our service shop has a fresh oil and filter change all the fluids have been checked in topped off there's the emission sticker and this truck is 100% ready to go I would highly recommend this truck to make quality and 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