on everyone. Welcome to a brand new ranking with the release of Crimes of Grindelwald this weekend. I thought it'd be fun to bring one a big Potter fanatic who might actually be a wizard because I'm really much a muggle when it comes to the Harry Potter universe. And you can hear him laughing. It's my good friend Cody Curtis.  We're not gonna argue hopefully and we're not gonna debate. We're gonna try and keep this into the best cohesive discussion that we can and rank the Harry Potter universe. The Wizarding World universe. There's ten films to talk about before we get to there. Cody, how are you doing today? Are you ready to rank these? Oh, you know it, Zach. Well, first of all, it's always great to come on here either when it's a podcast or if it's just normal collaboration. We haven't done a normal collaboration in a long time. It might have been a year already because last year we did the Coco one and that was one of our last ones we ever did. But it's fun to kind of just do this. It's fun to do it more professionally not as laid back. But we're gonna be talking about the Wizarding World of Harry Potter. Let's talk about it. Cody, since you're my guest, I want you to tell me your number 10 and I'll try to withstand myself because I might know which one it is. Yeah, we may or may not have talked about this. My number 10 is fantastic beats the crime of the crimes of Grindelwald. Now, let me emphasis this with ever since I saw it last night. I have put some thought to it and I don't hate it as much as I originally thought I originally did. Like the crimes of Grindelwald, there are some very fun stuff in it. For one thing, as far as world building is concerned, Stephanie Meyer, or not Stephanie Meyer, screw that. JK Rowling. Stephanie Meyer, we're gonna talk about it now. No, no. No, but but JK Rowling, as far as world building is concerned, there are not a lot of people who write screenplays who can do it well. There are some problems I a major problems I have with the script, but as far as world building is concerned, I don't have a problem with that. She knows this world she knows the characters. That was great. Johnny Depp is Grindelwald and and Jude Law as young double door. Those were fantastic. I love Eddie Redmayne is new commander. It's just as far as storytelling is concerned. It was just an overall mess for me. I was very bored and there were just way too many subplots, you know, OK, so like, I'll hold my thoughts back for it a little bit. OK, this is a very nice discussion. So if you guys have different thoughts on any of these films on different rankings, we both want to hear it down below in the comments. We're definitely going to be talking to you guys down there, but I'm going to save my thoughts for a little bit later and just get to my number 10. My number 10 is Chamber of Secrets. I find this film to be way too long. It's the longest film in the franchise. I definitely not bad. I think it's good and it's fun to watch. Don't get me wrong at all with that, but I find one of my biggest issues with it is the film's just it's the one film that they try to put too much of the stuff in from the books. That that's just one of my biggest issues. I think it still holds up. I think it's still fun to see where it goes within the whole world, but overall could have been better. Chamber of Secrets is one of those that I also think it's down there because this is the film I rewatch the most as a child. And I think I'm just sick of it. Well, I can understand that. I mean, there are certain I'll get to my thoughts of Chamber of Secrets in a little bit, but I can understand why.  I mean, it's almost both Sorcerer Stone and Chamber of Secrets. They're almost three hours long, both of them. And Chamber of Secrets is closer to that mark. And there's just some stuff they could have definitely cut out of it. But I'd say let's continue. Yeah. So what's your number nine? Well, number nine for me is Fantastic Beasts. Oh, come on. So no, look, I once again, like you said, I can have fun with pretty much all these movies. And this is this is where I start to say that every movie after this point on this list, including this one, I don't think it's a bad movie. Fantastic Beasts I think is a very, I think it's a very well told movie. It's just some of the pacing issues I had issues with. But the introduction of Newt Scamander, Queenie, and all the other Tina, all the other characters we get introduced to, it was very good world building in a new story that nobody had known about. And this script, in my opinion, is just much stronger than the one we got with when it comes to the crimes of Grindelwald. So Fantastic Beasts number nine, it's not a terrible movie. It's not even a bad movie. It's a fun, enjoyable adventure. All right, so again, my number nine is Order the Phoenix. And listen, listen, I have it this low because I absolutely hate Umbridge.  And that's great things to the writing and the character, but I hate her character. And Order the Phoenix is fine. It's fine for me. It's one of the films that honestly, when I'm rewatching them, it's the one film I could care less to watch. I don't know why I don't know why it is. I just have never gravitated to this movie. I find it to be super weak. And I'm sure Potter fans are freaking out, but I find the book to be so much more interesting than the movie. And I just, it's cool seeing Harry teach these kids and it's cool seeing like their world building within this. But again, I just, I find the book to be so much better on this part than the movie. And the movies, again, good. I just don't care to watch it. Yeah, I can completely agree. And this is when the trolls come in and they're like, you shouldn't be comparing the book to the movie. Yeah. Oh my God. Well, let me say this. Oh my God, it's umbrage. Look at that pink outfit. She's so cute. No, right. No. And you know, there's the outfit. Anyway, what's your number? What's your number eight, man? Let's just skip over this. My number eight is Deathly House part one. Can I just say this? My number eight is also Deathly House part one. Okay, then let's get into it. My biggest problem with this film very much like with Fantastic Beasts is the pacing. The pacing of Deathly House part one is definitely painful. Yeah, it's definitely painful. But once again, it's not a terrible movie. It is a very, very well done film. It's just the pacing inside of the film is when the majority of the movie is camping, you got to make it interesting in some way. And unfortunately, I don't think they really succeeded. But David Yates is the director, the whole team behind it. It was great. And also the performances by everybody. This is the point. They're great. What can we say? All the performances by everybody in all of the Harry Potter films, they're always on top of where they need to be. It's great. Yeah, I agree with you on that part. I think the the reason it's higher up on my list and not more at the bottom though, to be completely honest, is because that one scene between Harry and Hermione, the dancing scene, the one scene that always sticks out.   But it's a film that I definitely feel like you needed a first part. But I think this is one of the things where, okay, you need to try to change some stuff. There is needed essential stuff when you if you watch this film and the second film back to great, perfect together. But as a standalone film, it's not that interesting. And in fact, it's kind of boring. Like, have you ever heard someone be like, let's watch Deathly Hollows part one, not part two, part one, like I could I could easily skip over this, go watch part two and be completely fine. But it's better as a whole. And I really like Deathly Hollows. I like Deathly Hollows part one. Nothing wrong with it. It's fine. It's good. But I think that Harry and Hermione seem really benefit and push it up a little echelon. It's really much the last calm before the storm. Before that's the best way to explain it. Yeah, absolutely. And one thing I would say is if we weren't doing the individual films, if I could put Deathly Hollows part one and Deathly Hollows part two and say that was one movie, I would say that that without a doubt is my favorite film in the Harry Potter franchise. Because if you put those two parts together, you have even though people complained about the setup and everything else, you have the setup in part one, calm before the storm, everything we're getting and then everything hits the fan in part two. So put those together and that would be my favorite Harry Potter movie. But since we're doing Singulars, let's just move on. Yeah, let's move on to number seven. What's your number seven? Number seven for me is The Chamber of Secrets. Okay. It's like I said, this film, I agree with you where it does feel like they were trying to cram too much into one film. The Chamber of Secrets, once again, my biggest problems when it comes to the Harry Potter films for the most part, is always the pacing and the pacing and Chamber of Secrets because they tried to put so much into it. The pacing is brought down. All the Chamber of Secrets stuff is really cool, learning about the basilisk and Aragog and the spiders and all just phenomenal world building once again, because the Harry Potter books and the Harry Potter story, the world building is always, it's incredible through and through. But there are those issues there. Although I will say that Chamber of Secrets, when I was a young child, this is the film that gave me nightmares the most. Yeah, I'm kind of with you on that one. But my number seven is Fantastic Beast and where to find them. This is a movie that when I walked out of, I was so let down, to be completely honest. And for a long time was my least favorite. And then as I've come around, I re-watched it a couple days ago because of Crimes of Grindelwald and I like it more. I knew what I was watching this time. And the thing about this film is, and I think is, we'll get, when I say where Crimes of Grindelwald is my list, we'll talk about why. I think Fantastic Beast has one great thing about it is that it is a standalone adventure. If this is where the film ended, that would be it. Like straight up, that would be it. They never made a sequel. It would be fine. It would be a definitive story taught to bottom. There would be some things you'd still want a little bit more. But I thought it was nice introducing us to these new characters. A new is great. Queenie is the most underrated character in the whole franchise right now. I love Queenie. Colin Farrell was great. Everyone's good in here. And it just built up the lore more. But I mean the easiest, the easily the best part about Fantastic Beasts isn't just all the creatures and getting to learn more about them and not just the interactions.  Nifflers are adorable. They steal the whole movie. And I think Fantastic Beasts is one of those films that goes between dark and light, but more light hearted and it kind of takes us back to the earlier days of Harry Potter and just having a fun adventure. I holy smokes. I agree with you on that particularly the Nifflers. I agree with you on that one because there I want one. In fact, I wish Mutes commander was a real person so I could just go to his suitcase and visit him there. But yeah, it's a really enjoyable movie. Yeah, for sure. But what is your number six, man? Let's get to that. Before I get to my number six, I will say all us saying that these are fun movies after this point is going to be a bit of a cliche because every film after this point, every film is good. Let's be honest. So yeah, yeah. I mean all these films are good. There's not a bad one necessarily in my opinion. Maybe you disagree with me because of crimes of Grindelwald. But you know what I mean? Like they're all good. Yeah. So my number six is Half-Blood Prince. Half-Blood Prince for me, I thoroughly enjoy the movie but this is where I am going to have to compare it to the book. The book is better. The book is so much better and there's one big reason for it. It's the villain dynamic that we do. It's all of the information about Tom Riddle and who he was and where he comes from and his family, all of that stuff, all the interesting and amazing information we got about Lord Voldemort, about his past, about his family's past. It's the reason why Half-Blood Prince is my favorite book in the entire series is because of how they establish not just who Voldemort is but who he was and his family and Half-Blood Prince. I do think it's a great movie. The last act of Half-Blood Prince in particular is phenomenal but the pacing once again is very slow and all the romance stuff that happened the way they portrayed in the film. I thought it was a little bit too much of a high school cliche like high school musical cliche and it just for me it was just bad but Zach, what's your number six? I want to scream at you right now but I'll wait. My number six is Sorcerer's Stone. I find this film really good but does not hold up at all. It is not hold up. It is again long and sluggish and I think again it's at my number six and it I almost put it lower but it's a film I still enjoy watching but it's a film I watched so many times as a child that it's just ingrained into my head and I think it just builds it up and everyone does a fine performance but it's just our introduction in the magical world so I have to kind of put it in the middle because it's that introduction to the Harry Potter to the wizarding world and it's just great. It's a great coming of age story. That's what I can say about it. The whole story is a coming of age story for Harry becoming an adult in a sense but I think Sorcerer Stone's really nailed like the nail really well in establishing this world and it built a great foundation for the rest of the world. Okay I can agree with that although I kind of want to scream because of how low it is but we'll keep going. We'll keep going but uh... Number five man. Number five. Top five right now. I did not even realize how ironic this is still right now. My number five is Order of the Phoenix. My number five is Order of the Phoenix. We almost have someone like Umbridge here. I love love this movie and by love I mean I think it's very very good. I think it's underrated. I think people think it's underrated and I just think it's overrated. I do not agree. I think it's a bit overrated but I still had a lot of fun. Umbridge as far as just an embodiment of pure evil it's it's it's great. Her representation was was fantastic. It was true to the character from the book that I love so much and the movie as a whole I thought it was handled extremely well. Particularly all of the flash vaccines all of the the connection that Harry has with Voldemort and in my opinion out of all of the Harry Potter films this for me is one of the best performances as Potter that Daniel Radcliffe gave and once again the last act of Order of the Phoenix is is phenomenal. The death of Sirius Black is um it's one of the most emotional scenes in in the entire series in my personal opinion but that's really gonna be quantified because I think I cry at the end of almost every single one of these darn films. Yeah man I you know what Sirius Black is my favorite character and all these yeah it's my favorite character and that's really why Order of the Phoenix like in a sense like works for me and people need to understand that like no matter how low these are on our list we still like these movies like we still enjoy these movies so Order of the Phoenix is even though it's my number nine I totally get why you like it um again it's just never spoken to me but there are great performances and my number five in Haps is Goblet of Fire which really started that adulthood steps for Daniel Radcliffe's character Harry Potter um Goblet of Fire is for me the most fun all the different trials and elements it's for me the most rewatchable Harry Potter films the fastest moving Harry Potter film and it's probably the one I've actually seen the most but it's one of those ones that still holds up today it's still beautiful look at and it's just unique you know like I just really like Goblet of Fire and again if you're looking at the books it's the books still better but I think they got a lot nailed down into this universe and again it furthers this and I mean the ending and that maze is one of the most intense scenes in any of the Harry Potter movies yeah I absolutely Goblet of Fire I'm gonna keep my mouth shut because it's coming up pretty soon but the Goblet of Fire is of it's a phenomenal movie it's a great transition point in the whole Harry Potter saga when Harry is becoming and this is actually this is the film where things started getting very very dark for the Harry Potter franchise and that I mean it's a great point it's a great it's a great film based off of a phenomenal book I agree man I agree so uh what is your number four on number four my number four is Goblet of Fire but nice I I have to reiterate everything you said the whole mood the transition everything it's it's it's great but I would say the best part of the movie the everything up to the last third of the movie is really really fun but the introduction of Rafe of Rafe Fiennes as Lord Voldemort is it's one of those it's one of those scenes that will be burned into my brain and I think might be a very iconic scene in cinematic history because Rafe Fiennes is Lord Voldemort is he's up there with Darth Vader as far as being one of the greatest villains ever put the screen I mean you have Wizarding Hitler thrown up onto the screen and all of his supporters and it was just so well established and so well put together and just and of course David Tennant is Barty Karats Jr he doesn't have a lot of screen time but the screen time he does have is is really really great Goblet of Fire great and Rafe Fiennes playing Voldemort is like one of the best choices you could ever have for a film yeah 100 percent so Zach what is your uh what's your number four crimes of Grindelwald I'm sorry I'm sorry it is my number four I find Crimes of Grindelwald to be underrated to the max um I thought like okay I'll walk out of the film and I'll give it a couple I'll give it a day or two and I'll sit on it I'll be like oh yeah it was fine it's not as much as I liked it walking out but I walked out and I told you this morning I feel like this film is getting a lot of hate and it is a set up movie this is very much like our friends of this universe in my opinion and I don't think this film is bad there is one or two things I think this film does not do good and it's one too many subplots way too many subplots there's a couple characters that you could have just sniffed out and did not need full things in there maybe you could have gone into it in a different movie and stuff because there's like what five more movies still in I think Crimes of Grindelwald should have focused on Dumbledore, Grindelwald, Newt, Tina, and the original crew I think Lita's stuff was a little bit it was needed but at the same time wasn't and then I don't remember the other guy's name her a strained brother I don't even remember what his name was but I I felt like he just cut out the film completely they did not need to be in this movie at all there's a lot of good elements to Crimes of Grindelwald just kills me and that I need to see what the next film in this fantastic beast franchise is I'm looking forward to it but man I get the hate I just Dumbledore come on come on hot Dumbledore but uh yeah it's excellent I loved it like I I did not like Crimes of Grindelwald that's no secret we discussed it right at the beginning of this and honestly look I think the movie's a piping hot mess but I can understand why you would enjoy it there are some very enjoyable enjoyable elements inside of Crimes of Grindelwald and I understand that people are giving Johnny Depp a lot of hate for his performance and saying that he's one of the weaker elements in the film for me he was one of the strongest elements in the film because for for me seeing Johnny Depp actually give a great performance which he did I thought he worked for exactly what they were going for and plus the movie is the movie is very much a setup film for what's going on down the road very much so but that's where we're three number three yep and my number three is the Sorcerer's Stone I knew it I absolutely absolutely love the Sorcerer's Stone is it dated yes the Quidditch Mashes do not look very good at all I feel make the same thing in my yard running around with a broomstick to be honest it's true you could but I I absolutely love this movie for the nostalgia for what it means to me I mean I watched this movie so much as a kid that it really made an impact on me and these last three are the Harry Potter films that I watched the most out of the first one the first one could probably be tied with my my number one to be honest I love Sorcerer's Stone the fact is the world building establishing this learning I mean as far as a cast is concerned you have some of the best actors of the time period of the time in this movie I mean Alan Rickman Alan Rickman Maggie Smith Richard Harris I mean you have so many great performances oh uh Rupert uh dang it guy who plays Ron he plays Ron not not I'm thinking the guy who plays Hagrid yeah Hagrid Robbie Coltrane that's the guy's name as a whole I love this movie the pieces it means so much to me and it I mean it's probably part of the reason why I am the person I am today so what do you want you know what man like I cannot not film is good it's it's good I like it but my number three is Deathly Hallows part two that one of the best conclusions is to a series ever made and that is being 100% complete every time I rewatch these films a marathon it and when you get to this last film it's heartbreaking makes you cry every time I think the film is great I have nothing else to say about Deathly Hallows part two I think it's fantastic all right sounds great oh no if this goes away I think yeah I think we all know what our number one is so what's your number what's your number two number two for me is Deathly Hallows part two yep so our number one's the same yep I I love it I absolutely love Deathly Hallows part two it's not only a really really great phenomenal exciting movie it's also the film that ended the Harry Potter's arc and his story perfectly this is like I said it's one of the films in the Harry Potter universe I watch the most I cry every single time I watch it the emotions are just so phenomenally strong and I can only imagine I wish I had the feeling of going back into theater watching this movie for the first time because seeing it on the big screen for the first time it was phenomenal and it's one of the films that it broke I believe it broke a couple box office records for a film of its kind it's one of the probably at the time it did but I mean Avengers and all those have like smashed these now yeah I know it's like number six or seven now but still one of the biggest openings at the time as far as box officer is concerned and Deathly Hallows part two is just such a great movie so what's your number two set my number two is Half Blood Prince I think this is the most underrated film in the whole Harry Potter franchise it's the one film that I was not looking forward to watching so there are faults with it within the book in the that I think the film should have been longer this is one of the Harry Potter films that should have been longer to add more depth that whole cave scene it's random like the book if you haven't read the book you're not gonna really fully understand that scene but just I found it so complex and learning Harry's relationship with Dumbledore and getting that relationship just a bit more before that horrible ending when you just cry and lose all hope that everything is gone it's the one film then this series that every time I get to I love to marinate on that shit I love to put that thing over a rotisserie and just fucking return it I love Half Blood Prince I think it's an excellent movie I think it's one of the best Harry Potter films it's the most underrated I get people's lack of it I understand the book is better but seriously I don't know what it is I love this movie though I love it not gonna argue with that once again none of the Harry Potter films are bad and I enjoy I mean if someone told me that we were gonna sit down and watch Half Blood Prince I'd be like okay put it on let's watch it I mean I have problems with how they establish the friendship dynamics and the whole and by friendships I mean the relationship aspect of Half Blood Prince like I thought it allowed for some levity and some laughs but I also think it could have easily been taken out and we could have focused more on the Voldemort stuff and that cave scene we get to the emotional I think it's all great but yeah it all builds up but we all know what our number one is the one film I think almost every person will rule as being one of the best Harry Potter films Cody I'll let you say it well I was going to say it however since this is like the fourth or fifth thing that we have tied when it comes to our number one one five four three four three two one Prisoner basketball Prisoner basketball yep it's amazing I don't know what else to say about this film it's easily the most haunting film it's the most horrific film this this is the film that gave me nightmares as a child it introduces us more into Harry's backstory introduces us more to the characters you get to meet Lupin you get to meet Sirius Black you get really the the death eater scenes in here are insanely crazy and it's just it's one of the films that as a film this is the best made Harry Potter film I would love to see Koran come back and direct a fantastic piece of film I think if you would have directed kinds of Grindelwald the kinds of Grindelwald would end up being my favorite Harry Potter film I just think Koran is one of the most underrated directors in Hollywood and I think Ask a Band is easily the best Harry Potter film it brings up the stakes this is really the first step into adulthood for Harry and it just man it's like shit hit the fan in this movie no I Alfonso Koran the great thing about it is that he manages to mix he manages to mix humor darkness in a movie that is just so much fun to watch and just so the world building gets bigger the stakes go higher Harry as a person is growing and we get introduced to one of the greatest two of the greatest characters in Harry Potter history we get Sirius Black played by Gary Oldman and then we get Professor Lupin and then we get Timothy Spaulding as Peter Pettigrew we get some great characters and once again Gary Oldman was perfect casting as Sirius Black and the gentleman they got to play Lupin forgetting his name right now Lupin was my favorite professor one of my favorite characters in the books and Lupin's one ultimately one of my favorite characters within the movies and this movie proves it to wise because this is one of the only teachers that actually feels like he's a father to Harry besides Sirius Black Sirius Black's kind of like that cool collected uncle that you that you don't mind hanging around with but Lupin is he's like a father figure to Harry and it was great to see Yeah, I mean the whole relationships that you learn in this film are wonderful and that's why Ascubans are number one so again before we end this video let's go through our rankings I'll start with mine then you would say yours my number 10 is Chamber of Secrets number nine is Order of the Phoenix eight is Deathly Hallows part one seven is Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them six is Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone five is Goblet of Fire four is Crimes of Grindelwald three is Deathly Hallows part two number two is the Half-Blood Prince and number one is Prisoner of Ascuban and Coby what is your list? All right my list is number 10 is Crimes of Grindelwald number nine is Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them number eight is Deathly Hallows part one number seven is Half-Blood Prince number six is Chamber of Secrets or no wait that switch is sorry sorry that switch around did I what the just restart so I can cut it okay sounds great oh number 10 is Crimes of Grindelwald number nine is Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them number eight is Deathly Hallows part one number seven is Chamber of Secrets number six is Half-Blood Prince number five Order of the Phoenix number four is Goblet of Fire number three is the Sorcerer's Stone or Philosopher's Stone if you're from England number two is Deathly Hallows part two and number one is Prisoner of Ascuban awesome so guys that is our ranking for all the Harry Potter films or if you want to see the Wizarding World whatever you prefer let's talk about it down below what is your ranking of the Harry Potter franchise let's talk about it what do you think of Crimes of Grindelwald do you think it was absolute garbage or were you on Cody side or my side let's talk about it down below that's where we're going to talk about it thank you guys again so much for watching this if you guys are new here consider hitting that like and subscribe button and make sure to go find Cody and Cody where can they find you at all right everybody well where you can find me of course here with Zach doing collaborations and podcasts and all kinds of stuff on a semi-regular basis and if you want to find me on YouTube just go to the YouTube search bar search Cody Curtis she'll find me there if you want to find me on social media just I'm not really on Facebook anymore but if you want to find me on Twitter Instagram stardust movie reactionary app or pretty much any other social media besides Facebook look underscore Cody underscore Curtis or just Cody Curtis and if you want to find me outside of that just go to WMPG.org you'll be able to find a couple of podcasts but I do with them one is about helping college students the other one is talking about films that come out during the weekend and then I do some writing for the school's paper and all you got to do is look up www.usmfreepress.org you'll be able to find my work there come and show us some support it'll be great I'd love to have a conversation with you guys well guys that is our ranking again that is Cody go hit up all those links check them out down there uh thank you guys again so much for watching make sure to go check out sandwich on films also down below because right down there you guys and get into advanced movie scenes and check out some movie news and even some movie reviews but I'm going to get on my little Nimbus 2000 and fly away thanks you guys so much for watching and stay classy