Okay, I think we're going to start. Welcome, everyone, at this press conference about what businesses can do to support the social development goals, sustainable development goals, I'm sorry. We have three speakers today. My name is Peter Vannum. I'm a media lead at the World Economic Forum. We have three speakers today. We're very glad to welcome Sharon Burrow, one of our co-chairs of the conference and also the General Secretary of the International Trade Union Organization. Next to her is Paul Pullman, who you know of course as the CEO of Unilever, but who is also here as the Chairman of the World Business Council for Sustainable Development. And next to him is Lord Malik Brown, who I could introduce in a number of different ways, but he's, as part of his presence here, he's part of the Global Agenda Council on Global Governance and also the Commission on Business and Sustainable Development in the United Kingdom. Welcome, everyone. We're going to kick off right away with Sharon. Sharon insisted on being here today, and I want to thank her for that because she had other commitments throughout the day, of course, as a co-chair. She really wanted to be here, and so Sharon, I'd like to start with you, because I know that you have to go in about 10 minutes' time. And since we're here to talk about what businesses can do to support the SDGs, I'm not surprised, of course, that Paul is here or that Lord Malik Brown is here, but I don't always see a representative of trade unions sitting next to a chief executive. So how come that in this particular case, you are here? Well, thank you, and apologies to both Paul and Mark for actually beginning what is, in fact, something that's created out of their leadership, but of which we are fully supportive. The commission is about a new social contract. It's a contract between business, between government, and indeed between unions and civil society. The Prime Minister of Sweden has, in fact, termed the call a new global deal. We are in uncharted waters, but we know that the world is very vulnerable. In 2015, two things happened that are remarkable. If you consider that our democracies are not as strong as they should be, nevertheless, government leaders took decisions, first of all, for sustainable development goals, and that means charting a course to 2030 for a much fairer world. And indeed, the Paris COP took a decision for a zero carbon future. So if we're going to save the planet for human beings, and if we're going to actually create a world where people matter, that's sustainable, then a zero carbon, zero poverty future, is where we have to head. That sounds easy to say, but it requires huge systems change. If you consider the current context, I think the Oxfam report at the beginning of the week reminded us that we're in real difficult territory. 1% of the world's people have equivalent wealth to 99% of the rest of us. That's unsustainable for business or for people. And then when you think that our report showed that the global trading model in a context where demand is absolutely stagnant in much of the world, where growth has slowed to the point where the world economy is very vulnerable. And inside 50 of our largest companies, then the global supply chains are a structural innovation that has actually not delivered for 94% of the workforce. 94% of the workforce for just these 50 companies is in fact a hidden workforce. Now Paul Polman argues the case for changing the nature of the supply chains for both small to medium enterprises and for workers. But we need a lot more voices that understand that. So if we are to have such huge systems change, if we're to avoid the risk for businesses that they won't meet the targets of a zero carbon, zero poverty world. If we're to enhance the role of governments and of course of unions and civil society to be part of the construct of that systems change, then we need to work together. So part of it is about business responsibility. It is about ending corruption. It is about decent work. And of course we are collectively interested in global standards that go to the highest possible frame for a moral compass that is about ending tax evasion. That is about decent work and global labour standards. It is about social protection and looking after the most vulnerable. And of course it's about environmental standards. But it's about collective action. So if we are to have sustainable business, if we're to have decent work, if we'd have environmental change that will preserve the planet, we need to act together. So I can only commend the leadership of Paul Polman and Mark Malik Brown. Indeed there are many commissioners not here today from business, from civil society. And indeed I'm proud to be part of the discussion as a union voice. It will be a challenging discussion. And we will try to have both a values base and an evidence base so that it is a confidence piece for the future of thinking by governments, by business, and indeed by unions and civil society together. Thank you. Thank you, Sharon. Yeah, that asked for an applause. Thank you. Sharon, you talked about collective action and need for collective action. And I think that we've seen such collective action a few months ago, just in Paris, where the Paris Agreement was reached. And you referred to Paul. And Paul indeed has played an important role in that by bringing together a lot of the business community then around climate action, which is one of the sustainable development goals. And now perhaps I should turn to you Mr. Paulman and ask that's one of the sustainable development goals is climate action, but there's of course 16 others. So how can you achieve success with businesses and with partners such as the trade unions and governments referred to by Sharon Burrow on these 16 other sustainable development goals? The beauty of the climate change agreement in Paris, the famous COP 21, which was a very successful agreement as a first step towards staying well below the two degrees. Is in fact that business also has seen the enormous importance of doing something about climate change. If 13 of the last 15 years were the warmest on record in the history of mankind, it also means that it affects the P&L of many companies. If there is a drought or if there's a hurricane or if there are other natural disasters, business often gets the first brunt of that before even others get involved. And no surprise actually that you saw thousands of companies in Paris helping to de-risk the political process and solving it. Now the beauty is of the whole debate about Paris and the climate change agenda is that people have discovered that it's not about climate change, it's actually about human development. It's the poor that suffer most from what is happening. The poor who depend on agriculture, spend the disproportionate amount of agriculture, live in the most vulnerable areas. So with the climate change we're actually pushing more people back into property. And there is no business case in enduring property. Many businesses start to understand that and it's not just ourselves alone. So this commission actually is one of the most important things that is being announced this week, in my opinion, here in Davos. The commission on business and sustainable development. Because what we now need to do is that same enthusiasm that cut millions of people to Paris on a more narrowly focused area of climate change needs to now move to the most important area which is the area of human development, which is the sustainable development goals. The courts have set themselves a very audacious target to eradicate poverty, more equitable, more sustainable. And that is obviously something that nobody can do alone. The cost for that would be two to three trillion a year, very doable in today's environment. In fact, I always say we have enough money. We just need to deploy it in the right ways. And this commission needs to help with that. The solutions to the SDG cannot happen without the active involvement of the private sector. And the development markets, especially 60% of the GDP, 80% of the financial flow, 90% of the job creation. So in Paris we've seen for climate change, for example, that governments have committed a hundred billion a year as of 2020. They've unlocked the billions. Now we need to get the catalytic funds and the multipliers of the private sector to unlock the trillions that is needed. Now there's a carrot and a stick here, which is all very well known by everybody. The stick is actually, if business doesn't do this, environment doesn't function, business won't be there either. It's an enormous threat to business, and Sharon has given the example of the value chain. But obviously the positive side of it is the enormous opportunity. If we can get the equal amount of women and men in the participation in the economies globally, that's 37 trillion more of value that can be unlocked. That's one of the sustainable development goals. Which is one of the sustainable development goals. We have energy to all 18 billion more will be unlocked. If we provide proper cities in an efficient way, because of the urbanization population growth, 90 trillion will be needed over the next 15 years. So these are enormous business opportunities. The task of the commission is a very simple one. A complex global development agenda. How can we simply find that and say, what does it mean to business? How can we incorporate it into business strategy? How can we develop the new business models? One is the new creative ways of financing to make that come alive and to have businesses step in into the enormous opportunities. Two things I'm very pleased about, that this commission is not just business. This is a commission that encompasses, and Mark will talk a little bit later about that, encompasses all stakeholders in society. And on the commission itself, it has some of the most influential, thoughtful people to make this come alive. The Secretary General will have a press conference later today for announcing the advocates of the SDG and the advocates of the SDG, which will be chaired by the Prime Minister and President of Ghana and Norway, will heavily draw on what this commission is putting out to make these SDGs come alive. There is no better effort to rally the private sector than what we're announcing today. Well, thank you very much indeed, we've already said it, Mr. Pullman, Lord Mount Brown, Mark, is also part of this commission that you're launching on business and sustainable development. And he, if anyone has experience in government and the private sector, it's you. You've worked both in the government, in the UK, and you've been very high up in the business world. So from your perspective, perhaps you could share, how can we make this concept come alive? What are some of the best practices that you see of how business can implement this and bring the sustainable development goals in action? Well, as Paul says, this is really, in part, all about scaling up. You know, I've been in the development world long enough to remember when we were happy if we could spend hundreds of millions of dollars. In fact, and we'd watch that go to the billions, and we've now, with this new agenda of the SDGs, watch it go to the trillions. So first, the issue is how do you crowd in the finance to make those investments in modern infrastructure and urbanization, et cetera? The second, though, is how do you introduce the innovation into development that the private sector is so good at? Hundreds of millions of people just give you an example as you asked for. Hundreds of millions of people in the last few years have gotten access to banking services that they previously didn't have. They were unbanked. Why? Because of innovations coming out of Kenya around mobile banking. The so-called Mpesa system. Well, Bob Collimore, who was the businessman behind that, is a member of this commission to give you an example of that. And hence, too, if you like, the third point, the sort of business models, the constant effort to sort of disintermediate, to disrupt, to find new ways of delivering services, whether it's health or education, whether it's changing consumer products in Paul's business of Unilever to be attentive to the cultural and income possibilities of new emerging consumer groups around the world. So, collectively, this market, what we call development, which is really billions of people striving for a better life, this is the frontier for business in the coming years. And, you know, it's strange in a way that you need a commission to assert that fact, but you do, because development has been such a world away from business. Development has talked a different language. It's been very cautious about introducing business and being afraid of exploitation of weak and vulnerable groups in society. And business has looked at development with a slightly jaundiced view, thinking, well, there's less risk and more money to be made in traditional markets. Well, bringing these two together around this extraordinary opportunity is what we want this commission to find the words and language and arguments to do. Thank you very much, indeed. Maybe I should go back to Paul now before we turn to one or two questions. Of course, with Unilever, because that's the other hat that you're wearing today, you have been very active in the developing world or the emerging world, the frontier of business, as Lord Malik Brown called it. Of course, other companies might not have the same long-term perspective. What are some of the advice that you can give from your experience of having done this and having gone through this process? What are some of the best practices from your own company that you can share with us today? Well, there are a few things that I think will be true for any company, small or big, that I think need to be kept in mind. But I do want to dispel this notion that we are out there alone. There are many companies already that are doing this, and we learn from them as much as we, hopefully, can share with them from our side. But the first thing I always say is you need to have the CEO of the company be fully behind that. It has to have a high level of awareness of what it means for their business model and a high appetite for engagement. If the CEO isn't behind that, it's very difficult for people under there to do these things, and often would lead to unnecessary frustration. So it starts at the top, as they also say, a fish starts rotting at the top. The same in this case, the positive movement starts at the CEO level. The second thing I would say is that what companies need to do is be very clear how it links to their business model, be very transparent about what they are measuring and making that public, and be held accountable for that, because that leads to the trust, obviously, that we need to rebuild in society. So this accountability, measuring and transparency is the second most important part. And then the third part is for companies small or big to get involved in transformative efforts that go beyond their company. There are many industry associations that work on things, the World Business Council, the UN Global Compact, and many others that say, if we all go together, we can perhaps get rid of the issue of deforestation. No individual company can do that. If we all go together, we can work better social standards in our value chain. No individual company can do that. So the power actually for companies is being excluded, and in the age of transparency where young people are incredibly more purpose driven, the millennials, etc., they increasingly vote with their wallets for companies that are responsible versus irresponsible. They also only want to work for companies but have a little bit of a deeper purpose. So fortunately, many businesses understand that. But if these three conditions are met, the willingness to engage and be aware, the willingness to measure, publicize, and the willingness to participate in these partnerships, with the help of this commission and other things, we can make this a better world for all. Okay, very clear. Then I want to go to the room. Perhaps one or two questions there. Wouter, go ahead. Yeah, I think Marcos would be very good for the second question. He's much better read than I am and much more intelligent to put it in a European perspective. But the forced industrial revolution and sustainability go hand in hand. Many of the solutions that we need in moving the development agenda forward can only be done if the business agenda is in sync with that. For example, the example of M-Pesa and financial inclusion is a good example of that. Providing alternatives to fossil fuel with solar or wind or hydro at prices that are competitive, which is happening now at 100 miles an hour, is because of technology. So we need to look at this technology on the positive side and say we leverage that for a development agenda. I saw a little drone now that if someone gets a heart attack in the wilderness, they can send a drone now and take care of the person. That's a great story of how human development goes forward if you want to. As long as it's green energy I'd be even happier. But that has to go together. But on the other hand, we also have to be mindful. There are many studies that would point out that if industry do robotics, if you get driverless cars, if you get people-less shopping centers where you check out yourself, etc., there's an enormous risk of job destruction. There's also an enormous risk of political defy. If you look in some countries like the U.S. the haves and the have-nots, it's actually a technology defy as much if not more than an income defy. So we have to design this forced revolution in a way that actually, again, builds on these objectives that we've all set together on these sustainable development goals. So it very much ties in. This is not a long story about what is this new technology and aren't we great to be innovators. No, it has to have that purpose to make an inclusive society for everybody. And I think that's a great story but we have to be very mindful on how we design this because it's still early enough to do that. Just a word on that second point. We always think in Europe is sort of having a fairly social democratic tradition of living at ease with the society of which they're part, where we think we're a kind of leader in this kind of stuff. And in many ways we are but interestingly, companies in Africa or Asia have much more direct experience of having to get engaged in development because it deals directly with the health of their workers with the capacity of the geographic areas they're operating to support their operations and it has to do with the wealth and spending power of their consumers. Actually, there is a much greater in many cases practical, pragmatic engagement of corporate involvement in development in Africa or Asia than there is here in Europe. So on Europe itself on the radio one, Europe had a 40% reduction target on CO2 as you well know and was one of the bigger contributors to make other countries be more progressive. Then the other thing is the circular economy concept which is incredibly powerful. We can improve the European economy by one trillion just to get a better recycling industry in Europe and it makes you more competitive. Europe again is showing that. What we have to be mindful of is that there are forces that pool the issues on the European borders the issues of the refugees, potential issue of Brexit, the issues that come in in the areas of the internal market functioning where half of Europe goes to the left and the other half goes to the right if I may say. So there are tensions there and what we need to do is to be sure and this commission again is ideally placed for that is that we deal with the short term tensions, be very mindful of those but also realize that the short term there because we are not sufficiently addressing these longer term problems. So how can we get this tension field where we do enough today but we also keep working towards a vision that we have signed in Paris and in New York on the sustainable development goals. And again this commission on the mark will be a beacon to do that and in Europe we need to be sure if there's one word of caution that we keep the long term focus ahead of us as we deal with these short term challenges. Well I think that's a very appropriate way to end the press conference. I'm sorry that we don't have more time because there's a press conference at 1pm immediately afterwards but if there's more time outside of the room we can continue the conversation. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you.


Hi, my name is Chitra Ganesh. I'm a visual artist and we are at Eyes of Time, which is a solo exhibition at the Sackler Center on the fourth floor of the Brooklyn Museum. Eyes of Time is a large-scale site-specific mural that combines drawing and painting directly on the wall with sculptural objects. The work explores themes of femininity and multiplicity using inspiration in part from the collection objects of the Brooklyn Museum, which you see behind the wall drawing. So basically the idea is that these three figures are sort of iterations of one another and iterations of feminine power. The main figure is based in part on the goddess Kali, who is featured in Hindu and Buddhist mythology. She is the goddess of time, change, and destruction. The figure on the left is a more contemporary and realistic iteration of that. Her eye is obscured by a piece of the universe. I wanted the figure to be looking both inwards and outwards. So to be looking at you, but also for you to be looking into the figure through the piece of the universe that obscures her face. The figure on the far right is a more futuristic rendering of this kind of feminine spirit or power. Her face and expression is inspired by the architecture of angels or gargoyles that adorn temples and buildings, but her head and body are comprised of machinery that allude more to a kind of science-fictional being. As part of this project, I picked out specific objects from the collection, which reference these ideas of femininity, multiplicity, power, figuration, mythology, fragmented bodies, and other ideas that you see in the wall work. I was really thinking about the relationship between the past, present, and future, and the cyclical relationship of time. I think about these things because the present moment in which we live frighteningly resembles what I remember as science fiction when I was growing up. And so I'm interested in seeing what the connections are between future histories and ancient histories. And in this process, I've combined imagery that is quite old as well as imagery that has more of a science-fictive significance to see how all of these interact together in the same space.


Hey guys it's Dr. Alex. I thought I would share a very profound experience I had that really changed my life regarding anxiety and the power of Chinese medicine, specifically Chinese herbs. I thought I would share one of the most impactful experiences of my life with Chinese medicine regarding anxiety. Now I had been one of the few students that was working to put himself through school meaning I worked half time in a full-time doctoral program which had about 30 credit hours per term and I've always had a good work ethic but I've always been someone who has a tendency to kind of run himself into the ground. After my third year of school I had started experiencing anxiety symptoms which started off initially as a sensation of feeling like I had drank five cups of coffee but never having had coffee that day or just not being able to sleep because my heart was racing where I was having palpitations or I could feel just my pulse in my neck and my ears in my head or waking in the middle of the night or waking multiple times in the middle of the night or just only being able to sleep five or six hours instead of the regular seven or eight hours. Now around this time I had reached kind of a breaking point where I was waking up only after being able to sleep three hours a day and at that point the anxiety symptoms had gotten to a very severe degree where a lot of people are not functional at that stage, myself included. Now I'd seen a couple of different Chinese medicine practitioners and it was helping but nothing was really making the difference so around this time I revisited one of my original professors, my original mentors and what we did was we actually took a bulk formula meaning we prepared the formula in the ancient traditional way which is raw, stovetop, boiled and this dosage is about five times higher than anything you would be able to take with powdered granules. I had been suffering for nine months of this to the point where I thought I was going to have to drop out of school. I was a little bit scared for my safety and I thought I was going to have to go home and drop out of school with only six months left of my doctrine you know the thing I'd always wanted to do so this was kind of my home stretch, my last straw and we made that formula and 36 hours later I had my first night of regular sleep where I went to bed, I didn't feel anxious, I slept through the whole night and I woke up feeling rested the first time in over nine months and that showed me how powerful Chinese herbs can be when used properly and at the right dosage. So anxiety is one of the most common conditions I treat and I treat a lot of people who are on antidepressants or I help a lot of people get off antidepressants successfully but in this workshop that I have coming up it's all about understanding what anxiety is from a Chinese medicine standpoint versus the biomedical standpoint and I'm going to juxtapose both side by side so in this workshop not only is it going to be one piece me talking but the other piece is going to be experiential I'm going to bring a formula we're going to smell the herbs we're going to taste the herbs we're going to prepare the bulk formula in the same way that I've prepared at the ancient way and we're going to taste it and you're going to get to see what it does to your body and where you feel it where you see it going to and you can feel the effect it has on you so I thought this would be very cool one part educational workshop one part experiential to try the herbs smell the herbs get acquainted with them now this workshop is limited to just nine people I've just rented somebody's bungalow in Marina Del Rey so it's nine people it's just fifty dollars just covers the cost of renting the place and it's going to be on January 15th so a week from this Saturday and it's going to be from 1230 to 230 so about an hour of me talking and an hour of us preparing the formula and then q and a etc so if this is appealing to you you can check out the link below this video because again it's only limited to nine people I've already extended the invitation to three to a fake in it so technically it's about five or six left so this is my very first live workshop local wellness workshop it'll be great to see some of you in person and if that resonates or connects here in Los Angeles just click that link below and your spot is officially reserved when you buy that pass all right all right guys catch you soon


Good morning. Happy Saturday. Welcome to the Saturday morning live cast where we run up the week that was at wiki tree We have a missing Appendage yes What can we say she's doing? I believe she may be climbing Mount Everest. Oh, what's your guess? What's my guess? Yeah I Think she is helping out the Easter Bunny and planning the most optimum route to go through all the wiki tree as homes. Oh Well, that was so much better than mine. I Used to really like you Sorry. Yes. Oh good. Yes That's so funny. No, okay, so you did you see the cheer the wiki tree cheer? I had this yes Touchdown So good morning everybody and we have lots of people hanging out in the chat so far this morning Did you did you check on that little item? Yes? I did. Yes, and it's and it's correct And fear fear dorelesi is here and she completed the canada cross What is it called the canada? Canada orphan trail the trans canada orphan trail Which we have a trans canada trail that goes all the way from the down east Which is what we call the east coast of canada It goes all the way through and up way up and around it's Yeah, so yeah, we're so excited you finished that that's a bit quite a workout. So congratulations as was here first off from Let's see. Audrey martin's here Let's see. Christine miller the chief family genealogical officer is here Uh, doctor who is drinking out of his? I'll drink. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's coming back soon Um, let's see. Uh, d. Spitzer car chris wine Uh patricia jackson chris ferrello Kathy bowers here Eric Vavra Susie card. I yoke is here. Hey yoke Uh d. Spenser car Uh crystal j Let's see vicki vicki blanco All right. Yes Day melon the first is here. That's up in wales, right up somewhere up on western wales. I think so. Yeah Um, and let's see and mary book bookholz from south dakota. Good morning Good morning. Greg. Have you are have you ever been a published author author? Uh, yes Actually In in that in there also in our an ontario math gazette, which is a publication that our math organization puts out but Yes, so greg and I wrote this little article and if you go to the wiki tree very first index page on wiki tree You'll see it and there we are greg and I wrote that article. So yeah, we're published. I'm also published I gotta show this In so far Genetic genealogy the first 25 years 1999 to 2024 reflections from dna leaders in luminaries That's very cool. Yeah, that's cool. So I'm in that that's from diane saldo If you want that what's that in that book. Do you talk about predictions of where it's going to go in the future? No, I talked about What they asked us to do was talk about our experience when we first discovered genetic genealogy So that I tell the story about why I took my first DNA test. So Um, and there's also I believe I have that right here Um, you can see this if you want to grab that e-book. It's for free Diane Southert is the person who put that together So you can grab that. Uh, if you want to it's free. Um, and so yeah published authors That's the question of the week Question of the week is um and as may be able to may may be able to grab that for you to get you that some that link, um Have you do you have any poets? in your family tree Poets authors Yeah, I don't I don't think I share a birthday with robert service who was a famous poet. Canadian poet. That's a cool. That's a cool thing. Yes. Yeah Um, oh Yeah, I I we don't have a lot of writers. We did have somebody who wrote a family history Back in the 1920s, but a lot of the stuff that was in that book has been disproven Um, but it's still a good book like she confused She confused her Great great grandfather with her great grandfather In the book and I thought oh, that's that's too bad. It was her grandfather Who was the revolutionary war hero not her great grandfather the guy that we share So that was an interesting thing to see that she had gotten that wrong. So All right, so she's the only one but we have people here on wiki tree who who have um Thank you Uh, the question of the week somebody put up gutta Yeah, really, uh, richard and emily. So he he listed a whole bunch of people gutta uh, carl hess freedrick uh, hegel uh Nicholas van Eek So he listed a lot of people and okay, so I wanted to check that out You weren't quite you didn't think he was actually descended from gutta Well, no, I didn't want to check his I don't want to verify his stuff. But yeah, that's right I have read gutta. I have read gutta in his original old german as a matter of fact I have it over there on my shelf. Wow. Um, yeah So he is my 18 times cousin five times removed if you're uh Oh, yay vicki's already got her book If you've got connections to gutta, that's great. I just thought it'd be fun to take a look at his profile again We had so much fun doing that last week. Greg liked it during the mutiny. Yeah It was yet So Gertr was born in frankfurt on main right side frankfurt heiligirl romanish Reich And he is died in weimar, but this is a nice profile. He's notable. So obviously he has a pretty nice profile good picture of him Um, and it just goes through here and it gives you the wolfgang van gutta Gilt us on a the And But we can scroll down here and we can see the english version of that He is considered to be one of the greatest poets and novelists of all time. He truly Affected me In his writing. I liked him Anyway, so he's got a nice beautiful profile there and he's got lots of stuff linked to other things Which is great It's got the wiki data stuff The second one that we're going to take a look at let me scroll on over here is Kirby drake has a link to His great grandmother hazel livingston was an author Starting in the 20s when it was often illegal for women to do so. So let's see if I've got this correct um, no I'm gonna find where she is All right, there we go. Hazel fey livingston. What a great profile this is and also You know when somebody posts a profile, you don't know how colorful they really are that they were pretty colorful So look at this check this out. She's a cousin of course. Um, but she was married like five times Collins Lane Hayden piece and um, she's got early life marriage children. She's got uh, some Livingston stuff on here the livingston tartan. Somebody got her birth certificate.  Yeah, that's right on uh, but I tell you what, um Getting the shonda told me how not to put the the border on there and I'm very excited about that I've been doing that lately, but she's got a great picture here. She talks about the marriage and the children they have that um, kind of Done gila baby picture. Um, but here this is my favorite. Um in the whole thing Uh hazel and loroy fled chicago to get away from al capone Oh, that's great. Wait, that's not the worst of it and returned to montana with their two children William came with her and is said to have swindled the state of montana out of its timber All right, okay, so He may have adopted another pseudonym during this time as he disappears from records that's She's said to have fled with william as well. So this was a really colorful colorful person. That's neat That's a great, uh profile. Um, and the the next one I wanted to do. Let's see. That's hazel um I don't know why i'm stuck on that one My 11th great grandfather was a guy named william shakespeare Oh, yeah, diana christman. That's pretty cool Did I have another one? Yeah Um, and then uh, let's see. Let's see if I can core correlate. Maybe this is an Hemingway Yeah, um William shakespeare and then I didn't realize shakespeare had kids But I guess it must have well and george washington didn't Yeah, see that's what i'm thinking like there's a lot of famous people that just that don't have kids like george washington didn't but there's a brand new um Um, I had it on my phone They did they dug up his brother's family not his brother They were trying to find his brother and they found all sorts of information Through dna with all that stuff and wiki tree or roberta estes worked on the pedigree collapse for that Stuff it's all over the news. So go check out george washington's stuff And this one was yes me. I published uh a magazine and and scholarly scholarly journals that from patty allman There are a lot of people who had that listed. Yes. I I am the author, which is why I asked a few were of Yeah, uh, but the last one I had up was and Dudley broad street. She's my fourth cousin 13 times removed But she is the earliest known enough. I didn't get who posted this But she is the earliest known female writer in the americas earliest known I'm sure that some of the oral traditions of some of the indigenous people are really older, but She was and brad street. She was born and dudley in far cotton north hampton england in 1612 So she was in the united states very early She died in and over essex massachusetts bay colony in 1672 So she survived a lot of stuff and I don't know look at the picture that they have from a book Wow, she does not look happy But she doesn't look sad. She looks quite contemplative in that picture. That was exactly the word. I was thinking of contemplative Yeah, he's got a big old chain arena chain of keys there Yeah, she was uh, she was an administrator So it was fun and this is a great profile another good one They even give us a little bit of to my dear loving husband If ever two or one then surely we if ever man were loved by wife then thee If ever wife was happy in a man compare with me yeoman if you can So that's pretty funny Yeah, the prize I love more than whole minds of gold Or all the riches that the east duff hold So there you go. That's very nice. That's the question of the week Right, so i'm gonna stop my share Okay, and hand it hand it over to greg clark Who has to find his cursor There we go. That's those I bet the bunny rabbit has it the bunny rabbit has it. Yes the easter bunny stole my cursor Yes, because uh easter coming along the whole happy holy saturday to everyone except for those in australia new zealand where it's probably already It might already be easter sunday um, yes So, um, yes, and for some of us holy week has been a very busy week, but Here I am And we're ready to go So the question of the week is rabbits or the connection of the week is all about rabbits and the Connector the connector connection challenge is about two rabbits in particular mel blanc and jennifer goodwin mel blanc of course was the voice of bugs bunny and Jennifer goodwin played officer judy hops in zootopia Which i've never actually seen have you seen zootopia? I have not apparently it's a series and But it's all it's all about I mean zootopia the Characters are all animals of sorts and so she is a police officer and assigned to Uh investigate different things, but anyways, there's bugs in And officer hops so now last week during the mutiny Um Mags and guests um decided not to use the uh The spreadsheet, uh, I have got the spreadsheet set up Um, but I thought I heard the complaints and the hardships that I was putting my co-host through for all of this New people who join us regularly you lovely people on youtube who love to Oh and look at their sandy one of the mutineers is in the chat You lovely people on youtube take part and enjoy I believe you know responding to the thing but responding to the thing You know to the to the challenge and and letting us know who you're closer to as I pair people up in the profiles So but apparently the hosts don't enjoy Maybe we do some crowdsourcing And we would let the people in the chat You know keep track and then when it comes time to you know find the scores I'm sure one of our keen wiki trees will have keep Can do a little tally and will let us know so that maybe you don't and and says she loves the spreadsheets Well, come on and come on and where to go and I think that if we continue to do the spreadsheets with the hosts involved That's the hosts that we should have a calculator So and come on you can be our calculator and that's right tally all this stuff That's what I'm thinking so we need to crowdsource some of the the calculations. So Let's try that. So first of all so everyone who's in the chat, please let us know Are you closer to mel blanc or jennifer goodwin? So you can either put blanc or goodwin biscuit biscuit Okay, so mel blanc. I think we have taught. I I'm pretty sure we have gone through mel blanc before. I think he's been um Profiled before because I this is all very familiar to me score. He was born on the 30th of may 1908 in san francisco son of frederick and eva um and Of course, he's most famous as a voice actor and radio personality best known for his work with warner brothers um is the waspley wabbit bugs bunny as well He's also done the voices for daffy dot porcupig tweedy bird and more Often referred to as the man of a thousand voices um My teacher influenced his surname spelling changing Changed his name from blank blan k See how his father has spelled his last name with a k changed it to the french blanc so that uh because of a Um a nasty remark. He said that you'd never amount to anything with a last name like blank That's a that's a rude thing for a teacher to say to a kid. I would never say you know Teachers were much ruder back in the day Yeah, well, you know Yeah, I think so I think sometimes they They believe more in the what's the word not harsh. Um Tough love My uh, high school home room teacher that I had all four years of my high school life Was a tough love teacher. Yeah. No Anyways, he was a regular on the network show the jack benny show Did lots of stuff. Sadly, he passed away From complications from his smoking habit and which resulted in emphysema Which is not a fun way to go in coronary heart disease, but he did live to be 81. So that's Pretty good. Um anyways, well beloved character and characters that he voiced And the other the other connection challenge is jennifer goodwin who played officer Judy hops in zootopia Yes She's my closest she's your closest so she's just one closer for me as well Um And I must confess I haven't seen zootopia yet, but I'm intrigued so I think I will check that out She's actually a cousin of mine a distant one through a french connection Um, I wonder if it's the same french connection that sandy paddock has she discovered I when I rewatched last week I noticed she discovered she has a friend some french roots there. So that's kind of cool Um, of course, she's still alive and acting um, I saw The part I know about her is the when she played snow white In once upon a time, which I enjoyed that series and turns out she's married to prince charming The person who played prince charming from that series was so that's kind of cool. Oh, that's fun Yeah, it is But her profile is very tiny because she is still alive But there is a link to her imdb page and also a wikipedia page. So you can find out more about her there so let's see so We are both here jennifer and she is my cousin. Are you cousin to either of these two? um, I am ninth cousins twice removed jennifer okay, and then and then Nothing to melvin drum block okay, so as In the chat, who's been keeping track? Do we know what the score is for? Oh Oh, it looks like someone said Oh, no, that's just they're just giving their own scores. Yeah. Oh, yeah people are I'm just sharing what everybody said Has anyone tallied at the number of the scores? Ann Didn't I hit an with that stick? Yeah, and what's what's the stats and How do I Oh, did you put the or did I did I I didn't read I didn't erase those from last week those that's 13. Uh, those are last we didn't do it last week. Remember there was a Right. Okay. So that's it's a tough. Oh, sandy says it's a tie No way Okay, so apparently no no everybody is more related to mel. Uh, I mean to jennifer good one Okay Both and let's see good one both good one Good one mel block. There's one there's one. Um Good one good one mel block good one mel block Oh, I should have been keeping track of how many times you said good one block I've heard three blocks so far good both good one mel block That's it. Good one Okay, it's not not too bad. I don't think okay. I'm gonna say that it was about five to 12 I didn't actually I didn't actually count the numbers that you were saying. I was loud. Sorry No worries. Okay. There we go Uh, moving on melony mccown. We need to add her in there melony. Uh, look 24 degrees from Good one for me. Nice Good, okay The next pair are two people who played or um There we go. They're voice voice act Authors on the same authors Authors of stories with bunnies or rabbits in them.   Oh, that's his nose. That's his nose. Sorry. Yeah, that's his nose. My little cursor was over top of that Yeah, that's his nose and George Richard George Adams is famous because he's the author of Watership Down And I just did a quick search for Watership Down and you can see all these different Titles or um cover pages All have pictures of bunnies on it. They're all different You know often it seems to you know, there's usually one image that's always used for a book But this one has I guess They've got lots of different ones but every one of them I don't think I've I don't think I've read Watership Down. Have you I did when I was really young No, I haven't But anyways, so these are both authors um so Hendrikus Magdalenos Bruna was born in In Utrecht Netherlands Dutch um in 1927 And of course he was a Dutch author and illustrator and a graphic designer who was widely claimed First work is the creator of the popular children's book series Miffy He started he started to pursue a career in drawing before his father forced him to attend secondary school Forced to go to high school But then he eventually attended an art school in Utrecht where he started started design and illustration He worked with Dutch publishing company And which was founded by his grandfather, which is very cool and created cover art for many other books And then he created Miffy or I'm not sure how you pronounce that Lots of eyes and jays Maybe yoke and it helped us with the pronunciation Mm-hmm Nintia is would be my guess But yoke, please Correct me there a small white rabbit with a simple minimalistic design. So that's what you can see. It's very minimalistic um Published in 55 1955 and the series sold 85 million copies. That's amazing. Isn't it? That is amazing That is wow. Yeah He went around several awards through his life including. I love this the silver pencil award What a great award for an illustrator, right? And he even received a knighthood from the queen Beatrix of the Netherlands Passed away at the age of 89 Leaving a legacy of inspiring children's literature that has entertained generations of young readers There's your um translation Nintia Okay, thank you yoke. Thank you Thank you. Okay Very cool. Um and onto the English author Uh, Richard George Adams who was born in 1920 on 9th of May in Wash Common, Berkshire, England English novelist best known for the uh as the author of Watership Down Other works include shardik and the plague dogs Neither of those I'd I'd heard of but certainly the Watership Down is very popular fourth child of a country doctor and his wife He attended Bradford College in Berkshire. Uh, he was uh, he was commissioned Into the army to the Royal Army Service Corps in 1940 served in Palestine in Europe and then the Far East Returned to oxford graduated in 1948 got married in 1949 began telling his I love how this the book came about He began telling his daughters a story about rabbits And then they urged him to write it down and then that became Watership Down Um, it was rejected sadly It was rejected seven times But was finally accepted and was published in 1972 when a Carnegie Medal and the guardian children's fiction prize And then he became a member of the royal society of literature and president of the society for prevention of cruelty of the animals Um recipient of the inaugural witchurch arts awards and passed away on christmas eve 2016 Aw That's neat. I love that origin story about that. Yeah, the kids Yeah I used to make up stories when our kids were little and the main character called her name was princess blueberry Of course she was yes, and her magic power was blue, you know, she could do anything with something Stories down though, so I'm not going to be a published author in that regard, but Um, so I did tally these oh, thank you because our our youtubers are on mutiny as well apparently There were both were two Bruna had three votes and adams had 10 12 votes Three to 12. Did you say yep? And there were both there were two both Biscuits Okay, and So I am closer to adams and who are you closer to? I am closer to adams as well at 23 and I'm not related to either one of them. No Okay, adams wins that contest moving on to voice actors um And let's say here we go. So sam george edwards and junius kanya's menace George sam george edwards and junius kanya's matthews Yeah, so you put edwards or matthews in Now, do you know offhand who the voice who they voiced? No, oh, okay. I'll give you the I'll give you a visual Thumper was edwards and matthews played I don't know that's that's rabbit from winnie the pooh I think that's cool. I love these. I love these connections Uh, so sam george edwards born 1915 in macon georgia. It's macon, right? Like with a hard see yeah macon Macon macon georgia. Uh, we're gonna have you speak in apple action southern I'm not just no, I I I should I heard that I heard that Boy, uh, he grew up into the show business family Made his debut on stage when he was just a baby His mother the actress edna park was holding him. So is that count really? I mean, how much acting did he do but that's okay We'll we'll give it to him part of a traveling medicine show. Those are always fun the adventures of sonny and buddy um And he supplied voices in several children's production including bumper the rabbit In the animated disney film bamboo. Yeah, then he was drafted into the army in 1942 Uh, and in most of that tour of duty, he entertained the troops so, um He left the service returned to radio and played one of his most memorable characters dexter franklin the bumbling teenage boy next door um And he was considered an everyman character actor played in lots of other shows dragnet gun smoke mission impossible Hello, even in a hello dolly He also now this is interesting one of his regular roles in from 78 to 83 was on little house on the prairie He was the town banker. I remember that Yeah, I remember the show, but I mean, I don't remember the banker necessarily But that's who he played but he can it can sort of see that, you know in his picture there uh anyways passed away in 2004 from a harder time and then we have rabbit from winnie the pooh juniors conures matthews um born 1890 in carthage illinois at states um And passed away at the age of 87 in 1978 American actor and radio performer became the original voice of a rabbit in disney's winnie the pooh He also voiced scottie in 101 dalmatians So you remember in that scottie? I think was one of the ones that helped them as they traveled across england to get home to london Um, and then archimedes the owl in the sword and the stone It's kind of cool. Um, you got to start on broadway Um, which shows like young wisdom wisdom any house not heard of that one before There's a silent film called silent witness. I guess he probably didn't do any voice acting in that film Um And then a bunch of other things leading up to one of his earliest radio roles Was the tin woodsman in a radio production of the wizard of oz, which is kind of neat His acting career just like uh edwards uh career was halted during the War he became a private during the u.s. Army Uh during world war two and then he appeared in a few movies after that Uh, he suffered a stroke and passed away in 1978 So How do our voice actors stack up? You know what audrey martin has done the tally and she said edwards won and matthew's 19 now Thank you. Audrey. Wait. Wait. I was trying to do the tally. I was trying to be a good non-mutinous host Yes, I got four for edwards and 14 for Wait, god 10 15 19 four Yeah, so you missed uh three of the brunos or the edwards guys, so Thank you. Audrey if you're gonna do it, I'll stop I will stop Then I get to enjoy them the morning. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Audrey. If you don't mind doing the that's great And which one of these are you closer to I am not closer to either one of them really No, jr. Matthews is 17 degrees for me and he's like he and jennifer gibbon and sam edwards are all my closest I'm not anywhere near Matthews Oh Edwards, where's the go? Yeah, so you're closer. Yeah Okay, there we go Sure. Audrey said sure Excellent way to go Okay, the next category, uh, the duel is between peter dinklage and Mortimer snokosky cross now am I missing something completely that I don't know what peter dinklage did that was a part of a rabbit I know I did not know this either. Um, and in fact looking at his, um his his Profile on wiki tree does not actually help you figure that out because My favorite movie that he's been in is the station agent Oh, okay. It's a indie film. I think oh neat. I don't think I've seen that one Um, of course, if you look at this picture, you'll recognize him Most many people recognize him as terry and lannister from game of thrones Um, and he's done lots of other stuff, but the reasoning he's in this Um is because he once played the velveteen rabbit on stage No way So that's his connection to this and the the actual Stage productions is the category that links these two together because mortimer Um was was a producer and produced many many shows on stage and television. So he and his brother So that's the connection. That's how these two are sort of related loosely. So yeah, peter dinklage played the velveteen's rabbit on stage once But he's more pot more commonly known for Most recently in a for his game of thrones, but he's done lots of other things He was born uh to john carl dinklage and his wife diana 1969 His father was an insurance salesman his mother a music teacher He was born with accondro plazia, which is a form of dwarf dwarfism Um, and he got married in 2005 their first child was born in 2001 Uh, I did not know but he was he's been a vegetarian since he was 16 years old Um, so all those scenes where he's eating meat in the game of thrones, you know huge chunks of things apparently he faked that Very acting career Working in film and television did lots has done lots of voiceover work for video games and stuff Living in oblivion and station agent are mentioned Uh he earned not seven awards for that Movie so yeah the station agent's an incredibly good movie. Okay. I'll have to add that to my two view list And then mortimer croft or marty croft Born in 1899 no born in 1837 in montreal um son of pinkis snufoski and mary yolos um youngest brother of sidcroft and was a producer writer and one half of the croft brothers production company That concentrated on creating u.s. Children's entertainment shows such as anabarbara kind of barbara's banana splits h and r puffin stuff Bugaloo's lots of stuff a land of loss Electro woman and the dine a girl wonderbug Lots of stuff here and received the lifetime achievement emmy award for national academy of television arts and sciences nice Also has a star on the hollywood walk of fame Nice Nice, and he's canadian. Yeah, I was gonna say does he have a canadian Star up here somewhere. Does he have is there a canadian? Uh, let's see I think we should uh, he's there the canada a canada approach. Oh, you mean a on the canadian hall. Yeah, the That's a good question. We should we should put him up for a posthumous Governor general Yeah, he passed away just recently just a few months ago november 2023 and kidney failure at age 86 And let's see how did we do uh, well, let's see I can tell you that I am closer to I am Who are you? Close i'm closer to marty marty croft. I am furthest from dinklage and not related to either one So audrey martin has your numbers here. Thank you audrey for being our our calculator today Uh drink dinklage one croft minty okay Thank you. Most most of these have been blowouts, right? Yeah, they have been first. Yeah Okay, next we have the last four are all nicknames.  Yeah bunny adair who's uh herbert Herbert yeah, yeah herbert Herbert arthur adair also known as bunny adair is a politician from australia Born 1905 welcome camp queensland. Um, and the other one is a pro baseball player herald burton rabbit warzler That's fun. Yeah So our politician from down under Uh was born in 1905 Uh member of the queensland legislative assembly The son of cecil and helen Born near carons queen queensland Place of the born birth place of birth is from military record, but the same record gives 23rd of ox so different slightly different Uh information there And then he married in 1928 uh, this looks like it came from a Newspaper article a very pretty wedding was celebrated the wednesday february 13th at st. Monica's church carons when glad it's the only daughter I love how they wrote wrote those articles back then, you know very nice Served at the australian army in world war two served as a member of the queen queensland state electorate from 53 to 69 1953 to 1969 and then passed away On 21st of october 1994 in carons And buried in the cairns cemetery And then we have our baseball player herald burton warzler Nice photo of him when his baseball uniform Uh born 1903 new berlin ohio united states professional baseball infielder in the major league baseball primarily played shortstop and second base for the boston red sox From 30 to 33. Philadelphia athletics the boston bees and the chicago cubs in 1940 Born on september 13th. He married in 1921 and then passed away at the age of 60 in 1964 Um Sandi is hopping away She's she's all in it That's so cool Okay, i'm closer to herald and who are you closer to i am closest to herald as well and not related to either one No, those don't know if i'm really either one of you there And how are our youtubers? Uh waiting for audrey to give us our tally there Come on audrey. I was thinking we should make a special button a special template for for our calculators. Yes. Yes Okay, she says adair one and warzler 14. Wow These are lopsided um And then the last pair is bunny uh bunny debarge and bunny millen uh, so bunny debarge Is a singer American soul singer songwriter and the only female sibling of the motown family group debarge Oh, wow Now i i must confess i i'm not familiar with the motown group debarge yeah but uh Are you i am a little bit familiar because we my brother played like motown musical Okay, he was a slap. Well, he is a slap baseman. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah He played lots of funk Neat, yeah So her her given name was eterlene, which is also the getter given name of her mother eterlene louise um, but she's go goes by bunny and I'm guessing they put bunny there is on in the In the uh, what do you call it? On the edit screen, you know for first name. So that's why she's listed as bunny here Um, it's gone by bunny most of her life like that apparently Eldest of 10 children. Wow grew up singing gospel music in the Bethel Pentecostal church in Grand Rapids, michigan Um, her uncle was the pastor and another uncle was the head of the choir So definitely a family of musicians Um Then she and her uh Her husband tony and two of her brothers initially signed together on a gospel circuit Before the brothers joined with the group switch and she and some of her other brothers followed to Los angeles and created the group debarge, which also signed one motown Uh, one brother decided to go solo and she bunny released a solo album and other siblings followed some other Uh pursuits she completed rehab and authored a second book And stayed in with the pedia that she now lives in michigan and is a grandmother to 15. Wow um, and our other our final profile of the connection Uh, the theme this week is rachel low melon Lambert melon born Lambert. She's my closest Yes, she okay, and she's also eighth cousin Ah Oh, she's a cousin of mine too. They're 22nd cousin. A lot more distant Um, rachel bunny melon was an american horticulturist gardener and therian Philanthropist and art collector But this is the cool thing She also designed and planted a number of significant gardens including the white house rose garden At the request of her friend jacklyn kennedy Nice Isn't that cool? That is very cool. These are really these cool little facts Like I did enjoy sandy all the little trivia that you added last week about the The profile people. Um, that was very cool. So this is really neat When the when the trivia is embedded right in the profile. So I don't want to go searching for it Born on the ninth of ox 1910 and daughter Gerard, uh barns Lambert The who invented the Gillette safety razor company Cool And her grandfather invented listerine Wow, this this woman's just full of cool. You've got the the morning take care of the mouse situation All one thing. Yes You got your morning routine all there and then you spend the afternoon just enjoying yourself in the rose garden Spent some of her childhood at carter hall, which was a mansion in virginia shanondua valley um And then she's a bunny lamb at first married in 1932 and then married again in 1948 To a philanthropist and art collector and horse breeder all melon She was entire she was an entirely self-taught botanist Which is very cool um She's one of the largest collections of rare horticultural books in her personal library And established the oak spring garden foundation to keep her vast library preserved and accessible And passed away on st. Patrick's day 2014 At the age of 103 Isn't that wild 103 Very cool. Very cool So how do we do so we're both cousins to Rachel Rachel And She's also my closest is your closest as well She is She's an eighth cousin Ah, right. Yes, you do But I okay, and what's the final score from our youtubers? Uh, we're waiting on that. Um, we've still got another score coming in there. We go from I do want to point out that day melon the first is Related to melon. Oh nice. So in that's apropos melon and melon That's excellent. Yep Um Where are where yeah Oh, there it is up there. Here we go one Uh debarge one in melon 20 Okay, yeah, I like this having help This is great. Audrey. Thank you.  Yeah, that's right We could put up a little icon that just has a calculator Calculations by Audrey Rob put this right in here by Audrey mark There we go. It's official Okay, well, thank you Now you want to do the pictures or should I do?  Yeah, that's right um 12 month of photos So, uh, again, um The the the hostess with the most is Betsy co is off calculating the easter bunnies route to all the wiki careers That was such a good one So i'm gonna do the the little guys doing the oars here. So this photo is from Anonymous bees grandfather Second from the right so over here the furry fella He's quite furry He was an avid swimmer and continued to compete in competitions into his 80s That's crazy cool. But he was obviously not a swimmer here. He was an oarman So that's pretty cool uh, then um, we have my when my mother was young she used to go to on vacation with her sister's family My mother was a lot younger than her siblings. They usually went camping in france five people and all gear in and on the car Beverly hillbilly style this Now what does this have to do with sports themes since my uncle used to be a cyclist when he was younger The itinerary was often adjusted so they could get a glimpse of the tour de France And the dutch riders who were fairly successful in the mid fifties So this is their family on their way or is it this family? I guess it's this family Uh, there we go. There's the tour de france. How cool is that yoke? That's that is so cool Coming around the bend That would be fun to watch. I also don't I mean they didn't have anything up the whole despectators back That's crazy. So now on down from yoke's wonderful post to Eric vavra somebody's throwing out the first pitch Dorth Dorothea vavra Are you in here there? You're in here, aren't you? at 104 p.m central daylight time on may the 29th 1991 my grandmother Dorothea vavra took to the Wrigley field mound to throw out the ceremonial first pitch That is crazy That's very very cool Acted as her pitching coach to the cubs front office providing delivery advice and words of encouragement Then the diehard cubs fan was escorted onto the field by her son as the pitcher took her to the mound conditions were 84 degrees Cloudy with no precipitation and an eight mile per hour wind from right to left now I'm sure that they did some calculations like audrey's done for us Okay, the announced attendance was 31,359 fans They watched the 77 year old used her softball skills to perform a triple windmill Wind up and deliver an underhand pitch arching to home plate Cubs rookie catcher Erica Pappas received the throw on a short bounce Her performance received loud cheers from the crowd. How exciting is that? How exciting that they got this great picture too Oh, that is neat. She doesn't include why What why did she get asked to do this? Oh Yeah, there's usually some connection, right? Yeah, what what is what why come on? Eric, okay. So that's the I'll send it back over to my friend greg. Okay so, um The other the other thing that betsey does so well and we're just gonna I'm just stumbling around here is the profiles of the we are the ancestors of the month and there are two well, there is one that was that was Has been added christine miller says on saturday march 30th My grandma jean would have been a hundred and six Would have been a hundred and six years old I was so fortunate to have known her grandma endured a childhood of upheaval and despite her circumstances Was able to create an amazing life with her husband and two daughters She had an amazing work ethic leading to creating a male sorting company during world war two Cool. Is that with two other military wives? She also started raising her own chickens and garden during the war Because of these two things. She was able to give her ration stamps to other families who are more in need That's very generous She's my role model. I'm so thankful god gave her to me Well written that christine very nice and so here is a pick This is Yes, this is her uh dulcy regina Grandma jean right regina death wiler shaver 4 and 30th of march 1918 pratt, kansas passed away first of february 2000 age 81 phoenix So You can see that she came from a large family And siblings all together she was fourth on the list um And then The profile goes into more detail about uh, she was believe that regina was her first name But it wasn't till later in life when she needed her birth certificate that she discovered dulcy was in fact her first name Isn't that that often happens doesn't it people going by their Yeah, sweet dulcy. Yeah mean sweet. Yeah, don't you um uh, then it goes into more details about her life and uh Growing up and but not so lovely lovely profile. There's a lovely picture over there grandma jean so Very nice Nice. I'm so glad you got to This to meet her and uh, she's your role model now Just before like half an hour before we began. There was another entry um And this is by our very own award-winning uh orphan trail completing and fjorda lisi Wicked tree yay wicky tree for the win Her next and to march is my best friend barb. She was born on the 25th of march 1952 And died on the 1st of november 2010 from cancer There were friends from the first to the end of her beautiful life We enjoyed square dancing gambling and knitting together and before she died she went on a seven-day alaskan cruise This was one of our bucket list items. We had a fantastic time. I really miss her this month oh That's sweet. That is sweet Very nice. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah Thank you and for sharing that now betsey always gives a tip of the week So i'm going to give a little mini tip of the week Do you have a tip of the week too? I don't So my tip is For maximum fun on wicky tree one of the things you can do is join one of our challenges And the connectathon is coming up So if you haven't already, um Registered for the connectathon. There's still time it happens on not the first weekend, but the second weekend of april um, I believe 1415 16th, I think or those dates.  It's one of the top pin posts. There you go Um, it runs from friday the 12th to monday the 15 i knew it was the second weekend. I just the dates were just Block in my bit. So yes sign up and the way the sign up They did this in january, but they're doing it again this time Or you can sign up for can i'm team canada this year or for this this round Uh on that post there will be there's an answer for each team And you just have to scroll down find the team that you want to join and then hit the comment button So if you want to be part of the appalachia roots Um and enjoy biscuits all through the weekend click comment on that button right there Or scroll down to the canada team canada one and hit the comment button there or any other ones Yeah, and and and as Um, are you going to mention what as sent us? Yes So here is the list of these are the teams that have under 10 people signed up so far now You remember the last couple things they've they've sort of broken the teams up into brackets based on team sizes So you're sort of come on the scorch on the team scoresheet You're sort of comparing you're competing or your scores are with teams that have similar numbers so You can certainly have teams with low low numbers of participants But if you have to if you're joining a team or if you're signing up for the connect on you're not sure who you want to join Consider maybe joining one of these teams that have lower numbers and helping them out The banyan tree Oh, where's the banyan tree? from I can't remember some of the many of these are Geographical one, but so you don't have to live or necessarily work on records from those areas but These are teams that have low numbers so far. So consider joining one of these teams if you don't have another preference the other Go ahead. Uh, well, I was going to switch gears to to the link link builders where you're going to go I'm getting ready to put that up for you. Okay. So the link building builders challenge is a challenge that's gone this all this month and they want to by the end of the month have 2000 links so as of Uh, right now we have 18. Oh two more links from the since the beginning we people have added two more links So 1,887 is their score so far this month And what this challenge is is to add links to wiki tree from other sites um and So there's lots of work that needs to be done between now and tomorrow Yes, if it goes to the end of march that would be tomorrow at midnight so Yeah, but we're really close. It was just um 113 away. Yeah. So yeah, there you go If you are interested in doing that then Hop on and help them out. Um, so really close to that And that's all I have to say about that because joining joining these little challenges It's a lot of fun. You get to work with other people and it is fun It's it's a lot of fun And it's a lot of padding on the back because every time we do one of these challenges We make wiki tree healthier. So that's exactly yeah We want to have a healthy tree out in our front yard In Appalachia And our banjos so I'm sorry Have you registered for the connectathon and then um rabbits connection combat we did that today AO and always has up a great bit of information on what's happening around wiki tree And then the challenge is join us in researching Melly alexander the dna chef. Yes So that stuff is great. There's also uh, the social media links and the ambassadors Project and as my tip of the week Again, I'm going to show you how to find it. So go over here find You're going to scroll down to projects and then we'll scroll down to The functional projects click on the ambassadors We'll zoom us down to the ambassadors project We'll bring that up and we will go down. There's a little bar down here. Click on that social media bar It'll bring us up to this great page. So we want to go to Week of sunday march the 31st. So that's the stuff that's happening this coming week uh, the cemetery spotlight is warren hill cemetery in Harar province And let's see and we don't have a question of the week yet, but the one name study is turner Uh, I have a miss Attributed parenthood that became a turner Oh And the person who found out that said I don't like that name It's just like the turners Yeah, oh no. Yeah, it was awful. Um, yeah, but it was also a misattributed parent. So Yeah, uh, one place to study is uh, maseraz Alencio uh, Apologize for butchering that wick tree plus On wednesday ask a lash Ask a lash event showcase. Well, you can ask a lash, but the person doing the asking is greg That's right. I'll ask him for you. Yeah. So friday night bingo is coming up and that's with sanny panic. There we go And then rock and roll hall of fame spotlight and meet our members and then you'll get us again That saturday morning. You may not have me next saturday where I'm trying to figure that out I have to travel and um, if I can make it, I will try and make it. If not, you guys will not miss me You'll have betty going great. At least there won't be a mutiny Probably not. No, probably not. Well, that is the week that is that was on wiki tree And there's so much more stuff going on We're so glad that you joined us and we're so glad that we could be here To play and hang out with you because it's it's a lot of fun So uh ash was just saying give us a thumbs up We'll take it. You'll take it. Bye. Bye


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This is St. Tech, Hawaii. Community matters here. Aloha. I'm Marcia Joyner, and this is Cannabis Chronicles, a 10,000-year odyssey. And as you know, the cannabis comes from the hemp plant. And that plant has been around, like I said, for 10,000 years. And so we're journeying through those years of medicine and religion and the government and all of these different things that have been used, or hemp has been used for all of those years. And so today we are coming up to Hawaii. And the hemp project that the State Department of Agriculture has proposed. And we will meet two farmers who are growing hemp seeds on the Big Island. So it's a pleasure to talk to people firsthand, what do I call? Farmers who have spent a lifetime being farmers growing things, developing agriculture products. And that is Greg Smith and Steve Salaca. Green Hawaii genetics. Greg, can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you. Good. Tell us now, how long have you been a farmer? Oh, gee, since I go after 30 years, I've been doing some farmer farming, mostly in California, and then farming here in Hawaii for the last 12 years. I have an organic vegetable farm, and I do a CSA, and I do farmer's markets, and I run a farmer's market in Kona. So I've been involved with growing food as a farmer and as an advocate for most of my life. And so you were originally from California? Excuse me. Right.  Well, why not? I mean, it's a beautiful place, a fantastic place to grow food, and I just love the lifestyle. The better place. This is San Diego, which was a really nice place, but it just got so crowded that Hawaii was the place to come, and Kahu District is a pretty quiet area, so we love it down here. So you are in Kahu now? Yes. And so this farm that you have, the green Hawaii genetics, is that a new farm? Or tell us about some of the other farms you have there. Well, green Hawaii genetics has a contract with the Department of Agriculture to develop hemp seed for the state. We're one of three farms in Hawaii that is involved with the seed development, which is what we need to have happen before we can't start giving permits to farmers to grow hemp in Hawaii. So we're working on the genetics, and we're working on the strains that have been given to us by the Department of Agriculture to make sure they stay within the guidelines and looking to do the research to find out what is the best varietals that will do well here in Hawaii, and then we will be giving them to people who will be applying for the contracts to grow hemp in Hawaii. Now, with seed development, I'm not a farmer, so you have to tell me what it means being a seed developer. What happens? How do you develop a seed? Well, you start with different varietals that come from different places. We have seed from China, and we have seed from different areas, and we cross them with other genetics, and we try to get certain characteristics. There are growing seed for fiber, you grow seed for seed material for protein, and you grow seed for medicine. So there are different types of hemp genetics that are for specific growing needs, and so that's what we're working on, finding the best ones for Hawaii. Nobody has ever grown hemp here really, so this is all brand new. So you have to develop the seed for the climate, and is that what you're telling me? Yeah, and the soil. Right. We have volcanic soil, so China doesn't have volcanic soil. So Marcia, this is Steve Ciccala. So part of what the Department of Agriculture is asking us to do is because we're out of unique latitude, a tropical latitude, many of the hemp varieties have not been grown or tested over time at this latitude. And so it's mainly to see if the seeds are climatized to Hawaii and remain under the legal limit of certain cannabinoids, mainly THC. But on the big island, the climate is different than Molokai, so are you growing for each island, or how does that work? Well, hemp is an extremely versatile and hardy plant. It was found on every major continent, so there's a lot of diversity potential with hemp. We're basically operating under the assumption that if it does well in Kahu, we are testing it in a few other spots, and of course the other contractors are on other islands. There's one of the contractors at the University of Kauai in Oahu. There's a contractor over in Maui. So these seeds are being tested in different environments, and we'll be looking at and comparing what the results are, but we're anticipating them to be very similar. So, okay, let's assume that the seed works well, and you're planting, of course. How long does it take to go from a good healthy seed to a harvest, from seed to harvest? How long is that? Well, that depends. It depends on the time of year. It depends on the day length. We do some light manipulation to get plants to a certain size, but let's say in a normal growing season, if you were planting your hemp in the spring, you would harvest in the fall sometime. So you're looking at a seven or eight month cycle, and that's using natural lighting. But because we're manipulating lighting, we can pull a healthy harvest off in as little as two and a half, three months. Wow. So that means that you could have, if you were in business, you could have at least two harvests a year. Yeah, we're looking at more like three harvests a year. Three harvests a year. Do you have to rotate the crop, or like you do in some vegetables, or just leave it in hemp? Well, one of the things that Greg and I really see eye-to-eye on is we believe in sustainable organic agriculture as a foundational practice. So like any crop, you're not going to want to continue to plant hemp in the same space without regenerating the land. So our approach is to use organic fertilizers, to use crop rotation, to use cover crops, just like we would in our food crops. So it's really a point that we want to bring across when we talk about hemp is we're not here to just use another plant to extract the minerals of the soil, but we're here to grow a plant that brings the community up and has economic potential, but also really can create an agricultural system that's sustainable over the long term. So you're treating this like any other food product that you're growing? In that way, yes. Obviously the growing conditions and some of its needs are different than food crops, but as far as our practices, our agricultural practices are very similar. That's where I was going with that. The practice, the love with which you treat this plant. That's right. Yeah. Now, once it reaches maturity and it's ready for harvest, what happens then? What goes on with the harvest? Well, first of all, you have to test it. So you have to stay within the guideline and there's a certain stage within the growing cycle that you test the plant at. And if you stay under the 0.3 percent, then it will be accepted by the Department of Agriculture as an industrial hemp. And then it's sort of up to the industry to decide what they want to do with it. So if somebody wants to create hemp creep, then they can create hemp creep. If they want to create a seed crop to feed animals, they could do that. If they want to regenerate the soil, they can do that. Or if they want to create medicine, they can do that. So it's all kind of up to the individual grower as to what direction they want to take with it. But they just need to stay within the guidelines that the state puts in front of us, which is basically staying under the 0.3 percent THC. That's pretty much the national standard for hemp. So that gets it out of that section A or whatever the cannabis. And what we're trying to do is give stable seeds to the Department of Agriculture so that when a farmer goes to grow it, they know that they're going to be able to stay within those guidelines. And it's not easy because the seed has a lot of variable. So it's not easy to get a stable seed, but that's what we're working for and that's what we hope we can do for the Department of Agriculture. So you are growing various seeds to see which one actually stays within the guidelines that produces a healthy crop that the state then can issue to whoever has a license. Is that correct? That's correct. We're not only just testing, but we're also developing, which was I think Greg's point a little bit earlier in the conversation. So the state has purchased some seeds that we're testing for a climatization. But at the same time and concurrently, we're also developing our own seed varieties that we know that we can actually adjust cannabinoid levels by hydrating. And so those things are happening concurrently on the farm and with the company. This is really exciting. Tell us now, you mentioned hempcrete. What is hempcrete? So hempcrete is a building material that is essentially just hemp fiber and lye. And so it's a non-toxic building material, fairly lightweight, no bug problems. And so it's becoming a very popular building material. And we think it has great potential in Hawaii. There's definitely a lot of folks interested in the hempcrete here. Obviously because we have such high cost on our building materials. So that's what some folks are interested in producing hemp. In some ways, it could be a byproduct of other hemp products such as if you're growing a seed crop for either animal feed or protein food or hemp seed oil, you can use then the fiber in a dual crop type of varietal for both like a hempcrete and a seed crop. So you take the oil out and make CBD, I guess, I don't know. And then you take the fiber and you make a building material out of it. Well, there's different products that are being called hemp oils. So we just want to clarify for your listeners. The hemp oil that gets pressed from the seed and that is the seed, that's the oil that you've been able to buy in the grocery store since the late 90s. That's essentially a dietary, a food substance. So the oil that comes from the seed has no cannabinoid or very little cannabinoids in it like CBD. That other type of hemp oil gets extracted from the flowers, the plant material, and that comes from trichome production. And that's what we would consider a medical grade industrial hemp. And that's the oil that you could then use for CBDs or CBG or some of the other cannabinoids that we're interested in. So the oil that comes from this could be used for like soy milk. You could use hemp milk and things like that. Absolutely, absolutely. You're already seeing hemp milk on the shelf. It's used as an oil that's saying salad dressing similar to flax. You know, hemp seed is being used for so much right now, but certainly the oil is going to be a very popular item in the future as it has been. We need to take a break. We'll be back in just a minute. And then I want to talk about CBDs and what is a CBD, okay? We'll be right back. Sure. This is Stink Tech, Hawaii, raising public awareness. Aloha. My name is Mark Shklav. I am the host of Think Tech Hawaii's Law Across the Sea. Law Across the Sea comes on every other Monday at 11 a.m. Please join us. I like to bring in guests that talk about all types of things that come across the sea to Hawaii, not just law, love, people, ideas, history. Please join us for Law Across the Sea. Aloha, and I'm Marcia Joyner with Cannabis Chronicles, and we are talking to my two new best friends, Greg Smith and Steve Salock at Green Hawaii Genetics on the Big Island. And it's time that we all in the state talked about hemp. Hemp has the potential as an industry, if we but look at it, hemp has the potential to give us a whole new industry so that we're not so dependent on tourism and the military. And so I am talking today on the phone to two farmers who are really at the core of developing the right seeds that can take us into a whole new world. And those are seeds for growing hemp. Now hemp has been around for 10,000 years and it grows everywhere, but the state and these farmers are working at giving us a plant that is hearty and healthy and will grow all over the state of Hawaii and give growth and development to a new way of life, a whole new industry. And so I am absolutely delighted to talk to Greg Smith and Steve Salock. And welcome back gentlemen. I am so glad to know you. Thank you. So tell us a little bit about the opportunities of making this into a whole new world for Hawaii. Or am I dreaming? Yeah, well we are really excited that this could really stimulate agriculture here in Hawaii. The economical opportunities are vast. It's probably one of the fastest growing industries. Of course the Canada industry is growing in all kinds of directions, but the CBD hemp industry is exploding on the mainland. And we are looking forward to seeing it have an opportunity to grow here in Hawaii. We are pretty lucky to have the head of the Department of Agriculture supporting this opportunity for the state. Scott Inright has been a very important part of why we are able to get to where we are today. And he has supported this opportunity to bring him to Hawaii. And it's been a full process. We've had a lot of ups and downs trying to get through legislation and through bills getting passed. We've been sort of working on this for over three years with the Department of Ag. But we are very close to seeing permits being given out by hopefully March or no later than April. And that's extremely exciting to know that there will be farmers that will be able to start growing hemp in Hawaii for different reasons. And it's the beginning of something very big for the state, a whole opportunity for processing all types of products. And we know people on the mainland are making very large amount of money growing the CBD hemp. And so it has the potential of really helping small-scale agriculture. A one-acre farm in Oregon produces as much as $100,000 an acre. So that's pretty amazing. I don't know if it's going to stay that way, but right now it's really booming. On the Department of Agriculture's webpage, it says if you're going to get the license, you need ten acres of farmland. That's the minimum. That's the minimum. I'm saying $100,000 an acre. Hi, Marcia, this is Steve's to call it. The way that we understand the application process is that you won't have to have ten acres, but you can grow up to ten acres under this initial permit. So even if you don't have ten acres, I think there's still the possibility of getting one of these permits, but you won't be able to do more than ten acres for the first year. We imagine that will grow in the first few years. So if I buy a license, or apply for a license, then I can say to my friend who is a farmer, can we use your land to grow hemp? Can you come together as a... Sure. Like any corporation, you can create partnerships, LLCs, or other types of corporate contracts to partner. There's no reason why the person who wants to apply for the permit has to have the land, but you do need to know where that land is going to be before you apply for the permit. Of course, yeah. But you can come together as a, like you said, an LLC, some kind of a partnership. Sure, of course. Yeah. Okay. Next step. Now... If you go on the website for the Department of Agriculture, there are some rules as to how you can apply, what it costs, what the specific things you have to do to be able to get a license, and so I would tell anybody out there that if they're really interested, they should go to the Department of Agriculture website and just put in hemp. And on the very bottom of that page that tells you about the guidelines, there is an access that you can go to and it will give you the rules of what the application is going to be about. It won't be the application, but it will give you the basic idea of what the rules are. Yeah. That was... Go ahead. We anticipate for the first year that there will be limited amount of permits, but we're encouraging more and more anybody that's interested in applying because I think that will demonstrate to the Department of Agriculture that in very short order, they're going to need to increase the amount of permits so that the average farmer will have access, but it looks like maybe the first round will only have about 10 or 15 permits available. I think this is wonderful. I'm looking at the big picture, of course, since I'm not a farmer, but looking at the big picture, places like Molokai, who they need industry desperately, places like that that can use, can benefit from this industry, it is just so exciting. Next step, to go from... Okay, let's assume that I have 10 acres and it's ready for harvest. How do I process the hemp into the next step to let's assume biofuels? I know nothing about biofuels, but... Yeah. You picked an interesting example. If you were growing hemp for biofuels, I would imagine you would already have a plan in place to send your hemp. We know that the Pacific Biodiesel over in Maui is definitely interested in growing hemp for their biofuels operation, so you would have some type of a strategic partnership with a corporation that's ready to process your hemp. And I would say that in general, for any end product that you're looking at making from hemp, don't necessarily wait until you're growing hemp to decide then where it's going to go. You're going to want to know what type of hemp you're growing, depending on what your end product is that you desire, whether it's fiber, seed, or cannabinoids for medicinal use. I know the product I want. Because this is in a very new beginning stages, the building of the infrastructure to develop this industry hasn't even begun yet. So it's going to take some real financing and some real... Strategic partnership. Yes, strategic partnerships to start this industry because the processing hemp is a bit complicated and can be quite expensive, so you really need to create a partnership. But once we get the plant growing, I think that's just all going to start taking place and investors will come in and be a part of it here and why. Now, I'll tell you the one I think where we can make a killing. Well, there's two products. Two products. Number one, a hemp can replace copper tone for suntan because we got to get rid of copper tone. Now, and it's been proven that it works to protect the skin from suntan. That's number one. And number two is the fuel or oil or whatever it's called, fluid for the 3D printer. Now, that one has to... We've got to have a corner on that. So tell me about the CBD because that is the thing that everybody talks about. Every store has... Everybody's got a CBD line. Tell me exactly what is CBD and how it works. Sure, well, CBD is the acronym for cannabidiol. And cannabidiol is the non-psychoactive cannabinoid that is responsible for majority of the health benefits of the cannabis plant. So for many years that everybody assumed THC was what people wanted to equate the medicinal effects to, but science and time has shown us that CBD is the primary healthy cannabinoid related to reduction in inflammation, anti-spasmodic, anti-carcinogenic, and the list goes on and on. It's quite an extensive list of health benefits. Essentially, CBD helps regulate the endocannabinoid system, which is found in all mammal bodies. And that endocannabinoid system is a recent discovery in Western science, just discovered in the late 80s and still being understood in its totality. But what they do know is it's responsible for the homeostasis of the human body, so the balance of the human body. So when someone starts using CBD or some of these other cannabinoid, whole spectrum extracts, their endocannabinoid system basically comes closer to balance and they feel better, whether it's reduction of cholesterol or insulin production regulation, whatever it is, better sleep. Anxiety is a major one we see benefits from. So it's really an amazing thing helping a lot of people with a lot of different health issues. I am impressed, thoroughly impressed. Every store, everybody, somebody says they have CBD. How do you know what is real CBD or somebody that's just put a label on something? How do we know? Yeah, that's exactly what I was about to make a point on. There's a lot of folks rushing to market because obviously the industry is growing so rapidly. So one of the things that Greg and I really like to educate and advocate for is to make sure that you know where your CBDs are coming from. It's really great to feel like we have access to these products now and a lot of people are just excited that they're on the shelves, but really now it's up to the consumer to do their own work just like they would on any other product or industry. Is it organically growing? That's really the main question when it comes to cannabis. Having been in the cannabis industry for over 20 years, it's unfortunate to have to say but a majority of the industry is not organic, which means they're using chemicals, synthetic fertilizers, high levels of pesticides and fungicides, and if your source of your cannabis and hemp is not organic, it's quite likely that you're consuming something that you might not like to be consuming, especially if your immune system is compromised or you have health issues. You really want to make sure you can get as close to the source of your product as possible. Know your farm or know your food. It's the same thing with cannabis. You want to make sure that the other ingredients that they're combining the CBD into is also high-quality ingredients. We're not big fans of the isolate that's being used in a lot of the products. CBD isolate is advertised as 99.9% pure, but in our opinion it's not as healthy of as a product as a whole spectrum extract, which has other cannabinoids, brings the entourage effect, and is a less industrial process to get it processed. The isolate is quite an industrial process. Is that on the label? How can I tell? Or do I have to call you and say send me some? Well, you certainly can visit our Mono Artists and Botanics website to look at the products that we're offering them, because we have taken care to really look at each ingredient that we include, and we use only whole-spectrum organic extract. But it should stay on the label if it's from isolate or whole-spectrum extract. You're looking for something that is not from isolate. If it says CO2 extracted or distillate, then you're looking at something that's more wide-spectrum. In our opinion, isolate isn't as healthy. If it says isolate, it's not as healthy as a full-spectrum? This is just what the data and the science is showing, that entourage effect when other cannabinoids are in their natural form in relationship to each other, you have a better health potential as far as an outcome if you're using these cannabinoids. When you're only using one CBT, then you're not getting that total interaction, which they call the entourage effect. That's why we're advocates for whole-spectrum extract. Now, tell us again the name of your company that makes CBD. Sure. The company that I have is called Mana Artisan Botanics, and our website's mana-potanics.com. Mana-potanics.com. Thank you, gentlemen. This has been a real pleasure. And as the crop goes on, we will talk more.