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But how in the hell did you bag, arguably, arguably, the greatest Olympian of all time in Simone Biles?  You have to name maybe Michael Johnson. And you have to name Simone Biles. So the sister is a huge deal. And basically, his response was, if you guys haven't already seen the video, his response was, she bagged me. And not only that, I didn't know who she was. So let's start there and we'll kind of go down the list of the different things. A lot of the conversation that's happening currently is about the whole who's the prize? Who's the catch? He alluded to believing that men are always the catch slash prize. I think it's synonymous. And obviously, those are fighting words on Twitter, TikTok, Instagram. So a lot of the conversation is there. But also, he said that he didn't know who she was. The other part of the conversation, in the large effort that we're seeing to shame him and shame their relationship, the other part is we don't believe that you didn't know who she was. So let's start there. Before we get to the prize talk, because some of y'all might know how I feel about the whole prize thing, some of you guys might not. Again, if you're just joining us, please consider becoming a member to chat. Cash apps and super chats get priority. We will be moving this over to Patreon at somewhere at the halfway mark. But in the meantime, y'all get this for the free ski. But also consider becoming a member on Instagram as well. But yeah, so he didn't know who she was. So I did a case study. It was one of my first case studies. I think it's entitled Zion is the Victim Here, something along those lines. So if you go to the channel, just click on the logo and you scroll down on the homepage, scroll down to where it shows you the case study playlist. Click on that playlist. I try to bucket things based on their playlist to make it easier to find. And then scroll down on the case study playlist. You should watch some of those case studies. I'll be dropping some heat in there. But scroll down on that playlist and you'll see a case study I did about Zion Williamson. And the thumbnail says, no risk. And one of the key points that I made during that case study is that athletes don't have the type of res that people assume that they have. And I think it applies in this Simone Biles situation as well. We were at that time talking about Zion Williamson, who was messing with a porn star and who had impregnated a pass-around basically to put it in good terms. And I made the point that, contrary to popular opinion and popular belief, two things that really hinder athletes from developing res is the fact that number one, and I think this is first and foremost, a large number of athletes are simply genetically gifted. If you are 6'5 with a jawline and you have clout because of your physical abilities, you do not have to be charismatic. That's the reality, right? So with that being said, women come to them. Girls come to them and as a consequence, they never actually have to develop the ability to navigate getting female attention like the 99% of men have to do. In addition to that, high-level athletes, the guys who make it to the pros, that sport is their life. And very often it's their life from the moment that they can run and catch a ball, right? Like kids are being bred now from the age of four and five to make it to the league by the time that they're 22 or to make it to the NBA by the time they're 18.  So between practices that are sanctioned, between very often practices that are run by your dad who's probably the head coach of whatever team that you play for, camps, AAU, private workouts, if you come from, let's say you're the son of a former athlete or your parents got some money, you're not really outside like that to learn the intricacies of women and female nature.  So that's the first thing. So athletes don't have the type or amount of res that we might assume. So when the brother, brother Owen said that he didn't know who Simone Bowles was. What people missed was the 90% of the podcast where they talked about his road to the NFL. The brother is from Missouri. He was a standout in high school, but in college he only became a standout his senior year. So he went undrafted. So his life between whenever he started playing football and now has been football. And he alluded to during spring and summer workouts and things like that, the school thing he went to Missouri, they didn't have NBC. So he wasn't watching the Olympics. So when he said he didn't know who Simone Bowles was, he wasn't bullshit. He did not know who she was. And I think the fact that people's reflex is to dismiss men. And for me, I think it hurts more when it's black men. Black men's truth or black men's perspective. That's something that I have an issue with, but we've talked about that a little bit and we'll probably touch on it more. But that's the first thing. So there's not enough reason to not believe the brother. He said he didn't know who she was. He probably didn't. And in addition, kind of like I've been talking about with some of the case studies, kind of like I've been kind of touching on with the Yellow Flag series. I hope you guys have checked that out. I've got three more dropping. The last one was the one about her job, what her job says about her. But again, Yellow Flags don't mean she's a bad woman or she's off limits. It just means like, proceed with caution. And really the big picture is men, we have to be more strategic. We have to be more observant. And we have to be more analytical when we are assessing our future with women. Cause like we've said before, if things go wrong, you get no sympathy. So you have to do your job on the front end. But anyway, I mentioned that to say that part of the reason, and I think a lot of people are missing this, part of the reason why he was successful or they've been successful is probably because he didn't know who she was. Psycax, another YouTuber, he talked about this theory that he had that in a relationship, you have the admirer and the admired, right? And contrary to popular belief, women do not want to be the admired. He says that women want to be the admirer. And he alluded to, you know, if you're looking up to her, it means she's looking down to you.  So that's first athletic the whole nine. But part of the reason she probably was so enamored by him is the fact that with him, she wasn't Simone Baugh. She was just Simone. When you are Olympian, all-time great Simone Baugh, can you imagine how the type of world that you have to navigate? Can you imagine the lack of trust and maybe even the contempt that you might develop for people? Knowing that people just want to consume you, knowing that people just want to take advantage of you, people just want to be around you because of what you are, not necessarily who you are.  Well, he didn't know enough too. And even if he did, based on my assessment of him watching the interview, he wouldn't care. He's a Missouri football player, like football is life. So as we are having some of these conversations and simply trying to complain about women, simply trying to slam dunk on only fans' models, simply trying to regurgitate our ideals of who we wish women were, it's important that we take some of these things into account and we learn from some of these pop culture things that happen. So that's first. Brothers, and I've said this before on multiple occasions, stop pedestalizing women. It doesn't do what you think it does. It doesn't work the way that you think it does. Women want to feel normal. And that is all the way from Simone Biles, all the way down to the girl at the check cash in place. So that's number one. That's on one side. That's the lesson for brothers. Now the lesson for sisters. I've said this before. I would say this a million other times. And it's one of the clips actually on Instagram that's doing pretty well. I called it the basketball analogy. But basically to reiterate, I asked the young lady on the podcast what position she played when she played basketball. I think she played in high school. And she said she played a forward. And I asked, I was like, yo, if your school just got news that a five-star recruit was coming to your school, what position would you hope that they did not play? And we kind of all agreed, I don't want her to play forward. Because then I can't play.  I want her to play point guard. I want her to play center. Center might even be too close. She might be a transitional center who could play power forward and who could play small forward. I want her to play. I want her to be a guard basically. And ladies, I have to say it for the millionth time, it works the same exact way in love romance dating. If we want to put it in historical context, Queens don't make kings. The late Queen Elizabeth was married. Her husband's name was not King anything. It was still Prince. Now again, maybe that changes in the future, but this idea that a high-powered woman levels up her man like from a proximity standpoint, it's not true to the degree that a lot of our sisters unfortunately believe it to be. Any brother that I can call right now that I know personally.  And if they did, they wouldn't be any friend of mine.  Men care about is she beautiful? First and foremost, and the easiest way to know this is like you having conversations with men about women.   The first thing the fellas are going to ask is not what she does for a living. It's not how many Olympic gold medals that she has. It's not her pedigree. And I'm not saying those things are not important. The first thing men are going to ask is what she look like. Show me her Instagram. Is she blessed in the front or blessed in the back? That's what men care about. And, you know, we can continue to shame and minimize the fact that men are visual and men are sexually driven. Or we can try our best to try to understand it. And make decisions and accommodations accordingly. But the reality is just like I said with male athletes, Simone Biles, part of the reason she probably found herself on that dating app in the first place where she met Mr. Jonathan Owens is that she, in addition to probably not trusting people like that and not wanting to bag a male girlfriend who cared about her because she was Simone Biles, she probably didn't have the options. That people would assume. And I think especially in our community, right? Like our community is very, especially, you know, I feel some sympathy for sisters.  That's just the reality.  But most black men, we want ba, ba, ba. So the gymnast physique is not a physique that any brother I know has ever asked for or has ever added as a plus with regard to the woman that he's interested in. We might still knock it down and we might tell our homeboys. Yeah, bro, I was messing with this girl with a six pack. But when we are idealizing a woman that we envision for ourselves, best case scenario, we're not envision, we're not envisioning a Simone Biles. And we just have to be honest about that. And again, as a society, we've kind of come to we've kind of agreed upon like this unspoken thing that his money is our money, but my money is my money if I'm a woman. So with that structure, it doesn't matter as a woman, if you make twenty thousand dollars or two hundred thousand dollars or two hundred million dollars, because not only is society not going to expect that money to also be the man's. Most women aren't going to view things that way.  Or how dare you think of yourself as the catch as a man and all that stuff. I'm like, y'all are severely missing the point. If we lived in a society where being a high powered, successful, well-known woman made you a catch, that would be different. But the reality is it makes a man a catch. And again, I want to preface it by saying I'm somebody who believes I default to women are the price, but I believe the relationship is the prize. What you guys are capable of building is the prize. So this competition that we're seeing happen about who is more valuable in a relationship, I think it's a waste of time because in some facets, the man is more vital and more important. But in other facets, the woman is, especially if you're somebody who's interested in kids.  It wasn't a strength. And if I'm being a bit more cynical, like it wasn't something I was even interested in doing. Right. So in from that framing, her mom is 1000 percent to catch. But there are other times where it becomes more apparent, the value that I bring, simply for being a man. And again, I mean, to use the to use the basketball analogy as well, like the forwards have a role and they have a duty and they have a place they're supposed to be on the floor. The guards have their own duty and where they need to be on the floor. And we rely on each other's success to be successful. The point guard sets up the forward for play. The forward set screens for the point guard sometimes to score. So there's a symbiotic relationship and a symbiotic reliance. However, in our community in particular, we are stuck in competition. And the results are there that it's not working. But again, I think we we don't trust each other. And on top of that, I also think that. Unfortunately, sisters, I think it's coming from your delegation in particular. There is an entitlement associated with. Male and female relations. Most women baseline feel entitled to a good man. Like good man should be part of the. Package that I'm supposed to magically receive when I turn 25 or 30 or 35. And because I'm entitled to it, there's no further effort that's necessary from me. That's why if you survey 100 women, 99.9% of them think that they are. Good women. Because again, they're they're thinking about if they are Simone Biles. The accomplished Olympian. As opposed to thinking about if they are Simone. The accomplished NFL athlete's wife. Because again, any man who's worth.  He cares about how you can help grow his table. That's the reality. So what I encourage women to do, if you're listening to this now, if you're listening to this after this airs, start by working backwards, start by identifying the type of man that you think that your skill set is best suited to. And work backwards from what would he want from a woman? Going back to the basketball analogy, is he a point guard? I can't be a point guard, too. Is he a center? I can't be a center too. Because if you guys are both playing the same position, not only will you each not have the ability to identify each other's strengths, but you'll be in competition. And I think, again, another missed opportunity with this Simone Biles and Jonathan Owen situation is people miss when she said out of her own mouth, in a few years, people will call me Jonathan Owen's wife. So by the looks of things, she understands the assignment. He's a brother who's working and has worked all his life, not just to get to collegiate the collegiate level of his sport, which is, you know, a statistical anomaly, but also to work his way from being undrafted to now being a recognized NFL talent. He understands competition. And guess what a brother like that doesn't want to do when he gets home.  Our job is to change it.  The other thing that I talked about was the Bruce Lee quote, where he said that, you know, be like water, my friend, water, if put in a cup becomes the cup.  You're supposed to conform to me, not the other way around. And even when it happens the other way around, those women tend to not be satisfied. Jada Pinkett Smith. Right. So I hope these are some of the things that we're picking up on. Because again, I think oftentimes we have this side who are saying, you know, men, one thing men have is audacity and they're missing the point. And then the other side of men are saying, look at these bitches, they don't listen. They don't, and they're missing the point. But the point is, fellas, stop pedicelizing these women. They just want to be people. They want a man that they can follow. They want a man that they can conform themselves to. She wants to start using your lingo, not the other way around. Ladies, what position do you play? And what position are you recruiting for? And unfortunately, I've seen this firsthand, especially in the interviews. If you look at the Kevin Samuels started this conversation series, early on, I used to go on a list or based off of a list when I interviewed people. And one of the crossover questions that I would ask men and ask women, I'm sorry. And then have women ask men is if you were the opposite gender, what type of individual would you be? Every time without fail, the fellas came up with an idealistic almost a Puritan version of a woman that they wish that they would be, right? I would be a woman of grace and caliber and all that good stuff that unfortunately sometimes we look over in the real world. But women, again, without fail would always say, and my sister included, again, this stuff hits home, my sister included, I would be a male version of myself, which in my opinion is a subtle way of saying that I don't even know how to conceptualize men's value. So I will simply just superimpose myself on manhood.  Now, again, we can go down a rabbit hole with that, you know, the roots of that, that's kind of pun intended, but of that disposition. But if we plan on moving forward sustainably in a way where at the very least we can just have conversations, we're going to have to throw that out the window.  So please consider becoming a Patreon member. Um, the passport bros are a real thing. And, and shout out to Courtney Michelle, me and her have this debate, like, consistently, almost on a weekly basis. She believes consistent with most women, especially women in our community, that these men are the dweebs. These men are the lambs.  So they have to go over seas to acquire prostitutes.  I was never on that side of the argument. I was simply just saying, brothers, uh, the grass ain't always green on the other side. And when it is, especially when it's too green, bringing it back to sports, it's astroturf. So just go in with realistic expectations. Um, and also the idea of saving yourself and, uh, discarding your community never sat well in my spirit. But I have to report, and I told this to Courtney as well, the dudes who are on the internet calling themselves passport bros are not the people that I'm worried about.  I'm worried about our sons. I'm worried about, uh, boys, black boys right now who are in high school, who are in college. And unfortunately the branding of black women is not good. And unfortunately a lot of that is bolstered by some of their personal experiences with black women. And the reality is, let's be real, everybody doesn't have the political and historical education to put it in full context. Most people, just like human nature, um, dictates are interested in self preservation. And now that I even think about it, I think that's what the save yourself energy kind of comes from. But again, as somebody who has some consciousness, it doesn't sit well with me. But when I'm thinking of these 18 year old boys, 17 year old boys, and even Dr. Tia Son Johnson has talked about it, and he's done some of his research on it as well. They are reporting that these black little girls are mean. And that's if they like you. And don't let them grow up and move to Atlanta. Move to New York, move to LA, move to Philly, move to Chicago, move to some of these cities where not only is that entitlement there, but also the sense of you can't tell me shit as travel becomes more accessible, as the world becomes smaller, as social media shows us everybody's green grass, the natural consequence. And right now we're still in the early stages, so it's retirees and military guys who are really at the forefront of this.  These white, these rich white men with Asian wives. That was phase one. Now we're getting into the phase where it's becoming accessible to most men. And I think the situation from 2020, I don't want to mess up YouTube, kind of expedited this, right? Because now work from home is becoming more normal. So if you're a brother, you work in tech, you can be anywhere, especially somewhere like Columbia that's only an hour behind the East Coast, so really you can work a normal schedule. Number one, that sense of adventure that's kind of in all of us as Westerners makes travel very appealing. That's number one. Number two, the fact that your dollar can go so much further in some of these places. I got a brother right now. He lives in Brazil and Colombia. I didn't say or, I said and. He's got a place in Brazil and Colombia. And mind you, when I was a loan officer, I did some of his paperwork when he was buying his house. He's not a super high earning brother. He makes good money, but he's not, you know what I'm saying? But like right now, even this apartment that you see, I know how much that I'm paying.  Again, I haven't even gotten to the women yet. Now, with all that being said, not only the adventure of being able to see the world before I die, that's kind of in all of us and it's growing, you know, because of social media and FOMO and all that good stuff. Number two, my money goes so much further so I can actually enjoy my life. I can have a full meal with drinks in the whole nine in Thailand, for example, for three dollars. Whereas here, I might have to spend 150 by myself and then last, but certainly not least, the women. And let me not say the women specifically, the dating experience. Again, this is what I'm hearing from the brothers who are actually doing this and not on the internet talking about it. Again, I want to make that distinction. Some guys are lame, they don't get hoes or whatever and they're trying to shoot overseas because they think it's going to be easier. It's not. It's going to be easier in some ways, but not totally. I'm talking about the brothers that you don't hear about. The brother that I'm telling you guys about good friend of mine came out as like six foot eight. We've had conversations about women, so I know he gets... I've met some of the... But what he's reporting back is the disposition of women is different. Now, ladies, if you're watching, you have two options. You can continue to be dismissive and maintain your entitlement. And wait for your boas that will never come because he's leaving. Or you can take this serious and at least intellectually consider what are some of the driving forces and the real world factors that are leading to this great exodus. And how can you position yourself to not be a victim of it?  Go look up the success rate of IVF. Don't even look up the cost yet. Just look up the success rate and then come back and let's talk about how valuable men actually are, especially if you want black babies. But again, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. But what these guys are reporting, I was talking to a brother the other day, shout out to Jammin. Brother lives in LA. I say that because it's important context. In the United States, you know that the most beautiful women are going to be where New York, LA, if you're black, Atlanta, Houston, places like that. So he has seen beautiful women. He is not unfamiliar with women who are genetically gifted. He went to Columbia recently. Brother said, I'm moving next year. He said, number one, the physical fitness on average of these women compared to the women that were encountered with in America. And again, this brother's in LA is night and day. But that wasn't even what stuck out to me. He said that in Columbia, for instance, and I'm just using Columbia as a case study, a woman who would be considered a six there might be considered an eight here, just on the beauty scale. Right. And I'm not a huge fan of the scale, but this makes this argument for me. So because of that, and you can see it in some sense in cities where there's a high concentration of women, but to a greater sense, if you're overseas like Ethiopia, for instance, people were talking about, what's that lady who the guy, only fans, Ruby Rose. Ruby Rose is Ethiopian. Now here, she's an IG model. She's famous for having a nice body and being pretty. In Ethiopia, she's regular. If you don't believe me, there is literally a special where Chris Tucker talked about that. He said that he went to Ethiopia and every corner, he saw Halle Berry. This was like early 2000s, 90s. That's Ethiopia. Don't get me started on South Africa. Don't get me started on, you know, Nigeria. I got a thought saying, you know what I'm saying? Ghana. Because my whole thing, if you're going to lead a country, go to a black place and we cool. I ain't got nothing to say to you. Or somebody Afro-Latinas in Colombia and the Caribbean, the West Indies, Brazil, places like that, I'm cool. I ain't got nothing to say to you.  But because of that, there's a level of humility that these women have. So whereas in the States, what's beginning to happen more and more and more is that even a quote unquote five, again, using this archaic scale, a five would think that she's a 10 and she should be treated and accorded with 10 perks. But in some of those other places, eight think she's a four.   There's no conversation about you have to take me on a $300 day. There's no conversation about I'm not going to cheesecake. There's no conversation about a real man would, a real man would, a real man would. A lot of these women are socialized to see the inherent and implicit value in men. And in those places, it's not about your ability to tap dance. It's about if we get along. And in some of those countries, like I'm hearing back, it's about if she can prove herself to you. If she can prove herself worthy of getting on your train. If she can prove her water clear to be put in your cup. That's a different conversation. And again, I only bring this up. I'm not a passport, bro. Technically, unofficially, anything like that. But we have to be honest about what's happening and the consequences of what's happening. Because again, women being hypergamous and women wanting the best possible man that she can attract, it doesn't work the same way the other way around. The 666 thing that people are circulating. This is your best opportunity to find that men around the world are not tall like that. Men around the world are not making money like that. And again, we're not being honest about these things. Some of you guys, I'm sure, saw Richie Mack's recent episodic conversation that he's been having with a sister that he met overseas. And apparently her husband is there as well. Conversation aside, watching this woman, in my opinion, embarrass herself in front of Richie, the other two women, the other man, and her husband. It was heartbreaking, man. And in more ways than one, unfortunately, she exemplified everything that men and now boys are talking about. But for whatever reason, the conversation always goes back to the onus solely rests on men. And to be fair, I default to that assumption. I think that change has to start with leadership, which is men, unfortunately. What that might look like, and this is what I was debating earlier on in my live streaming career, what that might look like is real consequences for the female behavior that we claim to dislike.    For better or worse, those are some of those real consequences. What happens when my daughter's old enough to date? So again, there are real consequences for what's happening and we can't be dismissive. And again, this Simone Biles situation, it should be a wake up call in a sense to what's happening. And a wake up call, especially to women of what's successful and what men actually care about.   And again, I'm only speaking for a certain caliber of man. I'm not talking about the bums that some women unfortunately are dating. And if they were honest with themselves, they date those bums because they're easier to control. If they're honest with themselves, they date them bums because they know they don't qualify for the kind of man that they wish they can turn them into. But that's beside the point. Those men want a woman who is a compliment to what he has going on. Those men want a woman who makes him look good. And how good you look independent of him is not as high on our list as you might assume. But again, brothers, to bring it full circle, women don't want you to see her or to see them as Simone Biles, the Olympian.  And her case is about her accomplishments and other women's case about her looks. In other women's case, I got a PhD, whatever the case may be.  In the book, Way of the Superior Man, David Dieter talks about how masculine energy and feminine energy always find themselves, even if the masculine energy is in a woman and the feminine energy is in a man. So ladies, gentlemen, make note of that.   And I said this kind of jokingly on one podcast, but the sexiest thing a man can say to a woman is no. And the sexiest thing a woman can say to a man is yes. All right, I'm done yapping. We're going to take this thing over to Patreon if you want to join the conversation. Again, I will give a little bit of time. If you are an OG-level member and you would like me to drop the link if you have some words or if you want to have a quick banter before we head over to Patreon, that is part of your perk. But yeah, if you are a member on Patreon, we're going to head over there and come one, come all. Anybody who's a Patreon can pull up and we'll talk about this thing. And hopefully you guys, we can put heads together and maybe you guys saw something that I didn't see. And maybe we can have some conversation about strategies to reverse some of this damage that we're seeing happen. First and foremost, let me shout out some of the cash app. Shout out to my brother, Dub Will. Shout out with the $10. Yeah, I'll see that, yeah. The $10, shout out to him. I don't know if my sound effects work, but we'll try. If y'all can hear that, somebody put a thumbs up. Again, this was impromptu, so nothing was set up. The Zion, shout out to you brother. Shout out to you with the $5 cash app. Thank you so much. All this goes to supporting the work that we're doing. Again, something I didn't mention in 2024, I want to revisit events. As some of you guys may or may not know, we did an event in Atlanta last year. Didn't go from a promotion standpoint. It didn't go as great as I wanted it to. The actual event was phenomenal. Anybody who actually showed up, shout out to y'all. But it was one of those events that it felt like it was too short. Anybody who's in the chat can attest to that. So we're going to spend a block on that. Try to grow that.  Let's just keep it a buck. I'm going to put a lot of my focus, time, energy, and effort and money into scaling that as well as launching the card game. So again, yeah, all this support goes towards those things. And there are some perks, event specific perks that are associated with the tiers on Patreon. So please y'all check that out. Let me read this super chat from Pimp named Slickback. Appreciate you, my brother. He says, Simone Biles has a father. Something most of these birds don't have. There's a reason she has no problem playing her role and has a ring. I'm not a fan of calling women birds, but you have a point. When I talked to Dr. Johnson, I asked him, what women have you seen that are the, that I guess have hope? For those of you guys who don't know Dr. Johnson, he's a PhD in Black Masculinity Studies. He founded Black Masculinity Studies. And the three-part interview that I did with him, it's in the Listen to Black Men series. Again, homepage, you'll find it. It's easy or playlist, you'll find it. It's easy. He said that the two women that always are the most receptive are women who have active and loving fathers and women who are mothers of sons. So in that sense, we dropped the ball with our girls as well. Some of the reason why a lot of these girls are so women are so batshit crazy beyond reproach, unwilling to even converse about things that don't immediately glorify them is that they are unfamiliar with even having conversations with the first man who was supposed to love them. And this is where we're supposed to be empathetic. To that experience, the empathy goes only so far though because at some point it now becomes your responsibility to undo and walk back some of the damage that you had no role in creating for yourself, just like we have to as men. But I think as men, we do owe a bit of empathy with why women have some of the disposition that they have because a lot of that is rooted in our failings and vice versa. A lot of our failings are rooted in the failings of our mothers. And I've talked about like the first failing being that a lot of our mothers didn't choose great men to be our fathers. People don't want to say that, but that's the reality. Or a lot of our mothers were so vindictive or whatever that they fractured our potential relationships with our father. So this happens with girls too. So empathy is still big and high on my list. But again, yeah, appreciate y'all. I'm about to take this over to Patreon. So yeah, click the pinned link to Patreon above and join us over there. I said I would drop the link for channel members. I'm going to give it like five minutes. If you're an OG level channel member, you can call in, give your quick thoughts before we head over to Patreon. If not, I will see you guys all on Patreon. The lowest tier on Patreon is five bucks. But I would definitely consider the $15 tier. It really helps out. But the $5, it helps out tremendously as well. At $5, you have access to the, we'll call these after dark segments where we head over. We head over to Patreon. So yeah, if anybody wants to come up who's an OG level member, speak your piece, do that. So I'll give it a little bit and then I will set up the Patreon.  All right, we've had Shad's pimp named Slickback. He just became a Patreon executive producer level member. Appreciate you, brother. Your perks will be coming soon. Also, tap in with the chat on Patreon as well. You now have access, brother. But yeah, the three tiers, conversation list, executive producer and then VIPs only. And all the perks are listed under each tier. Like I said, for the foreseeable future, I will be shifting my focus to sustainable content, which means Patreon and the subscription model. I'll still drop on YouTube periodically, but it won't be my focus. If you guys want to know full transparency, YouTube has, I've been averaging $2,000 a month on YouTube on ad revenue.  But with my average five, six, 7,000 views, I'm not really making money, which is why things like Patreon, you guys support Cash App. Superchats is invaluable. All right, let me do a quick check who the OGs are. Also, I mean, Money, Marriage, and Media, you're grandfathered in, man. You know what I'm saying?  I don't care if you're OG. Jeffrey Bell and Patrice Jay, like I said, this is exclusively part of the new more regimented system that I have to implement. So if you're an OG level member, you will have access to come up on the stream. But in the meantime, Money, Marriage, and Media, I'm going to let you do a monologue, man, so I can set up Patreon. That's cool. What's going on, my brother? Man, it's been a minute since I had a camera on. I'm just trying to tell you. Man, listen, me too, man. Me too. I don't stream no more. I was low key discouraged.  Let me set this up and then we'll head over to Patreon. Cool? Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. I'm trying to fill out this Patreon thing myself. So it's all good. Yeah, no problem. So there are a couple of things that Alan brought up that I think are interesting. And at some point, we've got to start addressing them, especially if we're talking about building a community. The things that stick out to me the most are, when we start talking about how women behave in other countries, at some point, we have to address the fact that because this hits home for me because I am a father, like I have two daughters. And one of the things that I struggle with is that, okay, if I'm raising them here, I still have to raise them. So how am I doing that? What steps am I taking personally to ensure that they are able to interact with potential husbands? Now, of course, my daughters are young. I mean, no, this is six. But it gets scary when Alan mentioned about what do you talk about when or what do you think about when your daughters get of age where they would be old enough to date? Because the thing is, is that like passport pros, I don't get concerned about that. Number one is because statistically, that's a small percentage. I think what's a bigger issue is boys now who have the mindset that I'm just not going to try. Playing video games, nah, I'm good. Dealing with women is not the juice. It's not worth the squeeze. And it's not worth the time or effort. And if this was, if we were talking about a career or a job, we would label them as being lazy. But again, where does that leave us though? Because I'm not going to necessarily say it's being lazy because there are too many examples in social media as to why these younger boys are saying, well, no, it's not worth it. I don't want to go through all that. There's too much rejection. It's just not worth it. So again, it falls back to as a father, what do I teach my daughters?  Okay. And they grow up to be wives. Well, you're still faced with another dilemma. And that's the, that's the numbers. The numbers don't lie. So in our community, the marriage rates for women, it's less than 30%.  If that's the case, the average woman in this country does not make enough money to make it to the end of life through retirement. And there's a 70% chance that she's not going to be married. So what are you supposed to raise her to do? You know, is she supposed to be hyper independent? I don't know. I don't have an answer for this. And this is something that unfortunately, no one is willing to talk about. And I think that's a shame because at some point we have to address it. I mean, again, what do you do? I don't know. I mean, you can take a stab in the dark here and say that I want to raise my daughter to be wise, but I got two of them. So again, if it's less than 30%, what does that mean? Scary thought and for a reason, that's one of the things I'm glad about, that my daughter's also young. I can kick the can down the road a couple more years before having to deal with that. It may just be that my daughters will always be under my protection. And that's something that I got to deal with. So it is what it is. All right? You know, it's always interesting to hear or to watch these channels that specifically talk about dating, right? Manisphere, RP content, whatever, it doesn't matter. But what I find interesting is that very rarely do we talk about how we're raising our kids. And I think that's one of the issues that causes the gender war is that we never discuss the fact that we're raising our kids to be soldiers. And again, you have to address these things because otherwise it's just going to continue. You know, so we could talk about passport bros, but ultimately, you know, that's just a small percentage of men. Now, they're not all, I agree with Alan that they are, they're not all undesirable men or men who don't have luck with women in this country. I think that because the reality is to pick up your life and move to another country is not a simple thing in order. And that's a feat in itself. Most men, they're not going to accomplish. So if you are passport wrote, you know, that's your thing, you go ahead and do it. I've always been a proponent of, you know, you take what you build where you're at.  It doesn't work for everybody, but you know, I'm okay with that. But I think that another interesting point is this Simone Biles of her relationship. You know, I took key from another YouTuber who made an example of about the differences between men and women as far as peak sexual marketplace value is that women reached their peak sooner and it shoots up higher. So it's like a flame. The flame burns hotter, but with men, we hit our peak later in life. And if you think about it, that's kind of what Simone was talking about, how in the future, you know, she is going to be known as the wife of her husband. So it makes you wonder though, because about, how do you say this, about when should we start talking about when should we be looking to pair off as far as marriage goes? I don't know. I think it's an interesting conversation. Because again, if what I just said is true about women reaching their peak early, do you try and get married during your peak? Or is that still too young? Something to think about, because again, who are you marrying is another question. Because again, you're at your peak, but the guys around similar ages are not. They're not even close. I think this presents another problem for the gender war. Because again, who is vetting these guys for you? Most of the time, women are left to their own devices. And unfortunately, women a lot of times are bad at make selection. Just be honest here. I mean, if you want proof, look at the divorce rate. You know, it's close to 50%, but most divorces are initiated by women. Hold that thought, brother. 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Yeah, welcome back to the fire and water cooking channel. I'm Darren and today we're going to do a little test on some New York strips. I actually Fod these out starting last night in the refrigerator and I Got four of them and two of these I did not Season when I vacuum sealed them and put them in the freezer I just put them in their plane and these two I went ahead and I seasoned them before I put them in the freezer When I vacuum sealed them they've been both been in the freezer about a week and a half and Now they're thawed out and we're going to do a test to see which one of these Tastes better worse the same Preseason versus postseason. I'll be right back All right guys, like I said, we're going to do a little test today to see which one of these New York strips actually comes out better and The reason I'm doing this because I've had people on some of the other Facebook groups the sous vide groups and all that have Been telling me oh, you shouldn't season your meat before you freeze it because it'll wreck it when it's in the freezer It'll cure it and all that you need to do everything naked Don't season it till after you sous vide it and throw it on the grill So we're going to give that a little bit of test So it's kind of a multiple test here, you know since these were seasoned before I froze them We're going to see if it has that much effect on these steaks Since these I didn't season at all and we're going to throw them right in the sous vide without seasoning These are seasoned now. We're going to throw these in the sous vide We're going to take one of each of these steaks and we're going to sear them the same exact way Same seasoning just to see how they turn out. So bear with me guys I'm going to go ahead and throw these all in the sous vide bath. I'm going to use my rack here They're both all of them are going to go in at the same time For the same amount of time. We're going to do 128 For right at three hours, and then we're going to take them out and we are going to sear them I'm going to go ahead and throw these in the bath And then we'll be back in about three hours after these are done cooking out of the sous vide bath and There is definitely a difference in the You know pre-season and not seasoned at all. I'm going to get a closer Look for you As you can tell the ones on your left Are the ones that are pre-seasoned ones that are on your right are not seasoned at all I'm going to go ahead and pat these dry, and then we're going to go ahead and sear them up So bear with me. I got all my Got my heat going out there. These are going to go on the Camp Chef sear box So I'm going to go ahead and season both of these back up with some of my beef rub And then I'm just going to take two of these because the other two I'm doing another video on so All right guys, I will be right okay guys, I got my steaks here already and I'm ready To take a taste test These are our two that we are comparing against this one here is the pre-seasoned one that was seasoned inside the Vacuum bag and then stuck in the freezer and this one that was seasoned after we took it out of the sous vide bath So I'm going to go ahead and take a bite and show you but that's Still pretty medium rare there Just to see just make sure that's focusing That's pretty medium rare So I'm going to take a nice taste of that. It's very well seasoned And taste the salt and the pepper in the garlic nothing wrong with that one Had plenty steaks like that before so Now I'm going to take a bite right along the same area The one that was not seasoned before freezing And just so you can take a look at that make sure focus is Still medium rare on that one and really to look at them. You can't really tell That much difference in the cook It's definitely not as seasoned I can't taste the salt pepper and garlic as much and it feels like it's just a little bit tougher Like maybe this one, you know the salt tenderized it some when it was cooking in the sous vide. I Can take another taste just to double check. I mean I can taste the seasoning. It's just not as pronounced as in on this one And I said it's still it doesn't taste quite as tender And they're cut right from the same right around the same area of the steak This one doesn't look like it's been cured or anything it looks just like a regular medium rare steak But you can definitely taste More of the seasoning more of the salt It's kind of a lot more tender So there you go guys I mean if this is all going to boil down the personal preference how you want to do it But I don't see any issue With seasoning and then throwing it in the freezer and then throwing it right in the sous vide bath. I haven't This is the first time I've compared them neck and neck and I really don't see where It'll actually hurt it. It actually tenderizes it a little bit more Just try it both ways and then do it the way you like it. So that's what I feel Make sure you subscribe like this video hit the bell button for notifications follow us on Facebook and Instagram and again


Guys, wait for a couple people to get in here. I am at the mill in Jefferson. Been here most of the morning, got a ton of stuff done. Don, he was here with me for quite a few logs. He had to roll, he had some, I think he had to go do some banking or something before they closed. But I have a mega hemlock to tackle. Right now, for you guys, I'm gonna turn this around so you can see it. That is a beast. Kyle Powers, hello from Chicago. Hello, buddy. All right, guys, I'm trying this on the Starlink. I'm not sure how the internet connection's gonna be, but that's Elon Musk's Starlink. We're gonna try that. I got a Boojar V power box power on the router. This is the router right here. And then we're at the sawmill. I have like decent service out here normally. So maybe I could just switch it back over to cellular data if that cuts out again, but it looked like it cut out once already. All right, I think we just found the answer on that Starlink that that might not be the answer for this show. So I'm gonna switch it back to cellular data. I just switched it back to cellular data.  It seems to kick me off and reconnect and boot. And I know that's super frustrating for you guys when you're trying to watch. So we're gonna, I'm gonna mill this mega hemlock out. It's like 19 inches at the end down there. And it's like 15 foot long. So you guys like to figure out board footage can figure that out. I'm just looking to get two by eights out of it. And anything left over all take down like a two by four because you can always use more two by fours on a project. We are at 37, two by eights right now. We need 57, I believe. And that should be the last of the dimensional lumber. I think we have to do one more six by six. And then all of the lumber is milled for this wilderness camp project. So I'm getting excited the nearer and the closer we get to it. We're into some giant hemlock, which is not fun with two people. Donnie was milling with me all morning, but he had to go do some banking or something before it closed. So I'm gonna try to do this mega one on my own. It's gonna be a challenge and I love a challenge. So then the other challenge I'll be able to show you. I don't know if I can show you this. I'm gonna zoom in so I don't have to get too close. We have some neighbors here. Some nice white face hornets decided to build a home and they built it pretty darn quick. Right here next to the mill. There's the mill where I stand. There they are. We haven't had any problems yet, but I also haven't come over here very often on this side. So I think I'm gonna leave them be. Oh man, looking and coming and going like crazy. Oh, looking them all.  They hit a little harder. Let's just say it that way. Yeah, they definitely hit a little harder. I guess I'm shooting this live in vertical. What would you guys prefer? Leave it in the comments.  I got a couple minutes to take a couple questions before I fire the old mill up and get through this thing. The mill's been acting up. I think one of the hydraulic pumps that runs the forward backwards is acting up. So it cost us a blade earlier because it just took off on its own and just kind of drew a piece of wood, made a really weird cut and broke a blade. So hopefully that doesn't happen. Size of a basketball, basically. Yeah, Justin Harding said he found one of those in his backyard. This one's about the size of a basketball. It's growing. It was a softball the first day I noticed it. Now it's a basketball. So I think one of these cold mornings, I'm gonna come out and give it the old 12-gauge and see how it handles that before we have a problem with the mill. But they haven't bothered yet. Knock on wood. I got a big piece of wood right there. They haven't bothered yet, so we're gonna leave them alone. You guys see me jumping, running and dancing halfway through this live video and maybe swearing a little bit.  But I could see him coming and going like crazy building that nest and feeding their young ones or whatever else they're doing. There he is. There's Nick. Nick Linders on, guys. We're milling this giant hemlock. I don't know if you guys have hemlock in Minnesota where Nick is, but it's an awesome, awesome building material. We milled a couple spruce this morning. I'll show you that. And then the rest of them that we've been milling our hemlock, if we had more spruce, we would mill more spruce. But that whiter one right there, it's a lot lighter weight, has smaller knots. And then the rest of this is our two by eight right here. And then that's our floor stringers. Those are two by tens. And then what we're gonna put our camp on, these are six by sixes that we're gonna have the camp and put that on those. And then our two by fours are down yonder. And we have some board and boards over here. And a big slab pile there. And yeah, so we got 20 people on. Any fishing in Minnesota this year, Justin, I'm gonna be doing some fishing. I'm gonna set something up with Nick. We're also gonna do an overnight on the ice and meet and greet the fans and subscribers. So there's gonna be some serious fishing in Minnesota this year. I'm trying to kind of hit a couple new areas in Minnesota and bring Donnie with me. So that should be around the time of the show if there is ice.  But Moxie ice cream, we have Moxie floats. It's like a root beer float, but it's even more popular and they taste better. So all right guys, if you're just tuning in now, I'm gonna try to tackle this mega, mega hemlock by myself. Not fun. They're not fun with two people. They're not really even that much fun with three people. But I'll show you how big this one is. We're looking at just measuring across here. We're looking at 19 to 20 inches, right around 20 inches. And it's 15 foot long. So there's some serious board foot in that log right there. The shape of it, just so you can see, because it's kind of hard with the milling. Excuse me. It's got a little bow to it on the top.  Hopefully it's not shaky at all. Meaning that there's any hidden cracks in there that's gonna weaken the lumber for when we go to use it. If there is, I might have to junk it. But we're crossing our fingers because it's a lot of hard work. So where are you gonna see me struggle? Cause the mill's gonna be loud. I won't be able to talk unless I shut it off each time. But where you're gonna see me struggle is after the first couple cuts, I'm gonna take a slab off this. It's gonna go in the slab pile. It's just junk. It's just the bark. And then the next one's gonna be a two inch piece with a lot of bark on it. And I'm gonna probably just throw it to the ground to pick up for later. And then I gotta roll this log. And this log is heavy. It is a heavy, heavy lumber in itself, hemlock is. And this one happens to be green, which means that it's wet. And yeah, it's gonna be, it'll be hard to roll it by myself, but I think I can do it. Milling those shakes. I don't know if we can mill shakes, freedom, about those cedar shakes that you sent me in the comments. I was actually gonna talk to Donnie about finding someone who already is milling something like that and seeing if they can do a custom for you. But otherwise, if you look up fro, FROE, it's an old tool that they used to use in Maine to make cedar shingles. And you would kind of hit it with a hammer on the top and it would slice down and make like little tiny pizza cuts around the top of a cedar tree, you know, over a round. And that's how they actually made shingles for a long, long time. So you might be able to make customs with a fro if you can find one. I'm sure you could find one on the internet cheap or at an antique store. And I might have a couple kicking around. I think Donnie might too. But I'll talk to Donnie about it later on tonight. So, all right guys, so we got 24 people viewing. Got a couple of thumbs up.  I'm gonna get you guys set up here. I haven't heard if you guys are watching this on your phones, if you wanna see it vertical or horizontal. So I'm shooting vertical today. Hopefully that works for you guys. I'm gonna walk in here. All right, I think you're locked in pretty good. And you're gonna see me down at the other end of the mill running it right towards you guys. All right, let's see if we could trim this baby down. Oh, I got a protection first. All right guys, I'm gonna go after this hemlock. That's off that thing. I got two on the ground. Top one's gonna be a two by four. The other might be a two by eight. But the hardest part of this entire job is gonna be the next five or 10 minutes. That's why I shut that off so you guys can hear me maybe grunt and growl.  I know Donnie and I would struggle on this one together. So I'm gonna have to find one burst of big energy to try to get this thing to roll. Hopefully you guys are looking at it. Yeah, you got a good view of it. I need to get this flat spot right here. Flipped 90 degrees and up against the stanchion. So in order to put as much pressure as possible on this, I want those stanchions up as high as I can. I can always lower them before I run the blade. All right, there's two. I'm gonna take the pressure off it where I had it playing flat. And the goal of these things is to get all four sides square and flat and then into what they call a camp. And then if you've got to do it, then it's not a camp. Then you could get your lumber out of it. So I don't know, not quite sure how this is gonna go. So cheer me on, guys, because this is a beast. Nope, that's not good. We can't be having that. That would have been ugly. Let's try it again. All right, here we go. If I walk it in, sweet. Looks to be about 90 degrees. Took a little grunt and groan, it weren't that bad. Now I gotta lower these because they're within range of the blade. Don't wanna run the blade into those or it would snap the blade in a second. All right, these prevent the log from just rolling right off the mill. You got that one, I'm just gonna lower this one. There we have it. All right, I'm gonna check back in with you guys. See how everything's going. Donny's doing okay, yes. Donny's feeling a lot better. He was really, really sick on that last trip and may have overdone it on that 90-degree day and wasn't good. You do the lifting, here we go. I like it, Mike. All right, so this is the log I'm working on right here. It's a beast of a hemlock. I'll try to get you guys a really cool angle. Let me see. Maybe something like that for now. And I'm gonna take a slab off the top and then probably another piece too. I think I got about 16 inches here. Yeah, a little bit over 16 inches here.  Trying to make two by eights for rafters for a wilderness cabin. All right, we got the main log down to eight inches, as you can see there. And that's because we're a milling for two by eights. So I'm gonna flip that log over and I'll already have my eight inch wide and then every cut after that's gonna be two inches at a time to give me that two inch thickness. And then the two by eights are just about 15 foot long. They're gonna be our rafters. We're gonna have a 10 pitch on for the roof on this wilderness camp. All right, I'll see. Kyle's anniversary, happy anniversary, buddy. It is an awesome looking log. Yeah, and you can get so much out of them. We got 11 two by eights out of the last log we did. And I don't know how much a 14 foot two by eight cost nowadays. You guys can probably figure that out or look it up, but multiply that by 11 and add two more two by fours in there. And that was pretty, it was definitely worth doing that one. So right now I got to, I'm gonna roll this log. So I got to take the top two slabs off it. Top one's gonna end up being two by four. The second one, I can probably squeeze a two by eight out of that. And then I'm gonna be able to see how many we're gonna get out of this entire log. So you guys can watch me drop and grown on this one. This, the first one's going to the log is so wide. The second one's got to go to the ground too. I hate to, because that means I got to pick up, pick that one up again. Maybe I can do it. Ah, the heck with it. Let's just put it to the ground and deal with it later. Fast roll for this log. Holy cow, and she's heavy. It's amazing how heavy this thing is. Those are eight inches wide now. So every two inches off that's a rafter for us. That's pretty exciting. And then these other ones are a challenge too. I guess I'm gonna do a couple of those. She heavy. All right, I can get eights out of those. The rest of these are two by fours. And it's 14 inches. So top one might be a little iffy, but we should be able to get seven there. Eight, nine, two by eights out of this log. Pretty excellent in that square. This is stuff we can use on a project if we want. But out of these, I got two more right here. So anybody had a chance to look that up yet, but I'm kind of curious how much a 14 or 15, call it 14 foot, two by eight goes for nowadays. It's hemlock, you could kind of compare it to pressure treated in a way. It has a lot of resistance, but it's not pressure treated, but it's probably somewhere between regular spruce and pressure treated for longevity. But this is actually a true two by eight. So if we look it up online or wherever and find out how much a 14 foot two by eight goes for, you're really buying like an inch and a half by seven and a half probably or something like that. So, but I'm curious to know if anybody knows off the top of their head or if they look it up, how much a 14 foot two by eight would cost? Cause then we can figure out how much this log was worth or how much we saved by milling this log ourselves. So there's three there, four or five. I'm gonna get four more. So we're gonna get a total of nine, two by eights out of this one log. And then three, two by fours on the ground here that I could pull out of that slab wood. All right, I'll check a couple of comments. And then the last one to go, 45 watching and 29 likes. Yeah. Oh, 37 likes and 42 watching. That's pretty cool. Just think all the fire starters, the boy. Yeah, no kidding, out of that pile of sawdust, you're right. How many man hours do you have under this milling project? Depends if you consider us a man or not. I think we're acting like men on this one. So, geez, that's quite a, that's a great question. I mean, we fell some of the trees. Jamie cut a lot of the trees for Donnie, a great logger in this area from town, Jamie Peasley. And then, you know, we bucked it into lengths and then at the mill here, and it's not a crazy fast mill. So we got a lot of hours into it, but we lucky for us, we got a lot of hours or we've had a lot of hours that like right now, I got employees still at the ice cream shop. So, you know, I'm paying them so that I can be here. But hours wise, geez, I don't know. I really don't know. We'd have to sit down and think that in. But it looks like we got a couple of guys watching from down east. All right, so here we go. Here's some numbers. Bad, crispy, came in with some numbers. He says between 19 to $29 from the Menads. And that's for two by eight by 14 pressure treated. Okay, so 19 to $30 pressure treated. This is like hemlock. This is hemlock. It's not pressure treated, but it's not too far off. Be honest with you. So let's just say, I don't know what a spruce would cost like a kiln dried or regular one you'd buy, I gotta believe they're over 15 bucks, close to 20 bucks. So maybe we got 180 into this log and it was just gonna lay down and rot anyway. It was on Donny's property and Donny loves to harvest the lumber out here, especially for stuff you can use. So that's awesome. CJ's checking in, what's up buddy? Just talking about yesterday to my buddy, Nick, who's also watching, talking about some early season, early ice season crappy fishing. But yeah, I'll check in with some more comments, guys.  I have four, I think three more cuts should do it actually. So I'm gonna finish this baby off, set you guys in a pretty good location so you can see what's going on. There we go. And make my last three cuts. Pretty awesome, really, really, really nice ones. They're gonna be super strong. They'll outlast me, I promise you that. Let's take a peek at them. You guys at home can see them. Not at all shaky. Real nice looking stuff. So we got nine total. One of the viewers, Bad Crispy said, Clifford's lumber in Vermont wants 2325 for hemlock spruce or pine two by eight by 14. The main hemlock has to be worth more. I like it.  So $210 worth of two by eights right there. And then we got three, two by fours. I'm gonna cut out of those later on once I get a couple more two by four slabs to cut out. So you figure we're doing 57 of those, 57 times 2325 is well over $1,000. So we have, it's cost a little bit of money, $5 in gas to mill these and some blades here and there and stuff like that. But for the most part, we're gonna be saving a pile of money on the lumber for this cabin. Things we're planning on buying for wood would be the advanced tech for the subfloor. And it's kind of hard to beat that advanced tech for subfloor and to keep it tight. Make sure you don't have mice and no squeaks or anything like that. We put it down with glue and actually screw it in like every 10, 12 inches or something like that. But I'm here to answer a few more questions, guys. I'll give you a little heads up what's coming up on the channel if I can get in the editing room. It's not easy right now. We're a little bit behind on the milling. So that's why I'm out here. I'll be out here late at night for the next couple of nights. But I just got back yesterday from going up North and I got a pile of content and footage recorded for you guys. I mean, a lot. We went for a little bit over four days hired. Got a couple of special guest appearances that if you've been following the channel closely, you know who it is. If you haven't, you're gonna be in for a surprise. Who was up there doing the work? And we got a ton of work done. Most wilderness camps like that, it's really hard to get a base and a foundation under them. You either got to get lucky and build it in a good spot or you just kind of build on what you have. And then I think that's what leads to a deterioration on a lot of those camps is it doesn't have good ground earthwork and footings and stuff. So what we're gonna do for ours is just too far to pour concrete and not really cost effective to pour a foundation under it or anything like that. And it is just a camp. You know, it's a winter cabin, winter camp in the wilderness. We're gonna, we hauled in hundreds of yards of slate. We went hired, I rented an excavator and a couple borrowed dump trailers and we hauled in a wicked bed of slate and with like mixed in gravel and broken shale. And that's probably, geez, I bet you we got 30 inches of that down at the bottom and maybe 10 inches up top. And then that packs like crazy. Then on top of that, I found a pit off of the land that we're on for different wood owner.  So we had some super nice gravel and top coated. You know, probably, I don't know, I got to believe two to six, two to eight inches depending on where you were. We top coated the rest of it.  And that's gonna be our parking area and also what we're building off of. So we're way ahead on what we're building from. And we're pretty excited about the foundation that we have under there now. Yeah, hire one of them scoopers, do some editing on your channel and we'll watch when you get to it. Yeah, no, I hear you, I hear you there. I've actually thought about that on for a long time about being able to get more content and create more content and get more stuff to you if I had an editor. And it's really, it's just so hard because of how unique my channel is and how I don't really have, I don't really have a blueprint for how to do it. I'd started a golf channel too. That one's called Joey Shanks if you guys are interested in that stuff. And the golf channel, if I ever wanted to, I could hand the editing off to that to anyone and they'd be able to do a blueprint because you have like whole number one tee shot, whole number two approach shot, whole number three putt and then it's whole number two, it goes in order like that. So there's a pretty easy blueprint, but for the stuff I'm doing with like the winter camp and the ice fishing and the login and stuff that I find interesting that maybe some other editors wouldn't, it's really hard for me to hand over the editing to this channel, but it's something I do think about often and if the right person ever comes around that's proficient and efficient with both the computer, the editing software and what's okay to put on the channel then I'd be definitely down to pay someone to do that and create more content and be able to grow the channel more. But yeah, so I think I'll try to start editing tonight. I'm pretty wiped out today.  So we had, I think we're down to like 15 more maybe tops, maybe 15, 16, two by eights we gotta do. We need a six by six, 16 footer. That's no light chore. We'll probably mill that tomorrow and then after that we're gonna be hauling this lumber up country real soon and start the build. So really appreciate all you guys supporting the channel. It's gonna be exciting. It's gonna be pretty cool. I'm gonna have it on this channel and my other channel, JH Roughcut is most of the wood stuff and we might go a little bit more in detail on that channel as far as like how to hang rafters or how we build our floor system or how we mill for our own build or stuff like that. We might go into more detail that might bore a lot of my fishing viewers and stuff. So that's why I started that other channel. That one's called JH Roughcut. It's growing pretty good. It's got like 260 subs or something like that. And it's mostly stuff here at the mill or cutting down trees and stuff like that. But a lot of the technical stuff on the build will be on that channel and a lot of the vlogs and the human interest stuff and also some of the building stuff will be on this channel too. So that's what you have to expect in the future guys. Yeah, Donny's doing better. He had a little rough spell up north.  No air conditioning. And then we got there and he just immediately jumped into the work and he hadn't drank any fluids all day. And I think the dehydration got him and he laid down about three in the afternoon and that was last time we saw him till about seven in the morning, the next morning. So it's not often he messes dinner and we're cooking dinner. He was hurting pretty bad but he pulled through it. He's a trooper. Hello, bro from Russia. That is so cool. I can't begin to pronounce that. Annex. I'd have to get a translator for a name. I'm gonna guess it's like Alexis. That is awesome. Somebody from Russia is viewing in on this guy. So let's welcome him. I got another viewer from Germany. Roast in Toast is always watching on the channel. It's pretty cool to see how far the channel gets spread worldwide and even across the state too. I got a lot of the guys. It's very humbling to meet like a subscriber viewer and someone who likes the channel. And it's funny for me to get to watch. I've been getting that for years, being humbled by it. But it's really cool to watch like Donnie or Stevie or Brandon or Cameron also get humbled by meeting viewers and hearing stories of stuff that they've liked to watch in the past. So one thing I always do is I always give people the time of day and with a lot of respect. If someone's gonna take a minute out of their day say hi to me, you better believe I'll be taking at least a minute out of mine to return it. So yeah, it was cool on this last trip. We ran into some viewers up in Ashland and also in Bangor and in Portage Lake. So it was pretty cool. But yeah, so we're home for a couple more days. We're gonna be, yeah, there you go, Limeington, Maine. It's awesome seeing all of everybody from all over Maine too. Yeah, we're gonna be milling pretty hard between raindrops the next couple of days. We're bringing it right down to the wire. This hemlock's not gonna get you a chance to dry much. It's gonna be heavy.  That's all I'm gonna say. They're gonna be heavy. Two by fours, everything's gonna be heavy on this job but it's gonna be built right. It's gonna be built rugged. And we're gonna have ourselves one heck of an awesome wilderness camp when it's done. That we can snowmobile out of, ice fish out of, deer hunt, bird hunt, all that fun stuff. And like I said guys, we really appreciate all the support from all over the country and all over the state and all over the world really. I might mill that one on the log tonight. I'll probably go off of live here pretty soon.  That's a great question. I heard ice sketchy out there. I don't know if it's cause all rock piles are what it is but the boys did ice fish at some last year and it was sketchy. But I think if I get an invitation from my buddies that live on the lake or down East boys, I would never turn it down. The trouble is you got West Grand in that same ballpark and you got East Grand pretty much in that same ballpark as far as I'm concerned. And West Grand's just putting out some incredible fish as far as solid salmon. It's not putting out monster salmon like it had in the past but it's putting out big togue. If you wanna put the work in, you could catch awesome numbers of togue. Good white fish, Staven Lake trout. Staven Lake trout, I've seen a couple big ones caught and Brandon and the boys caught a couple big ones and some of their buddies have caught even bigger ones. And then East Grand's really, I wet my whistle on that lake last winter. That's a video you guys are gonna see coming up pretty soon here, I gotta edit that one. But that was a special fishery with some big Staven trout in there too. So I haven't really planned out this winter yet. The only plan I have right now is Donny and I, we're gonna head out to that ice show, that ice fishing show in St. Paul, Minnesota. Last year it was like December 2nd or December 3rd or something like that. And I had to rush home to get to that at a Sebego bait open house to help out Wayne and Andrew down there. I think I had to be home by like the 10th so I stayed and fished for a couple of days after. But what we're planning this year is not to rush back and Donny and I are gonna, we're gonna do some fishing in Minnesota.  Maybe go for a muskie too. I don't know if that's a thing to do out there and all, but the Pan Fishing's out of this world. It was so much fun. Pan Fishing with Sea Hill Chill Guide Service, a buddy of Alex Tim's who's a buddy of mine and the three of us went out and it was just awesome. If you get a chance to watch those videos, I think you guys would enjoy it. That day Alex caught that 25 pound muskie by the tail and it was over an hour and a half fight. But yeah, I'd like to get Donny out there to do that. I'm gonna do, I think I'm gonna do an ice fishing seminar out there in Minnesota. You know, it's where we sleep right on the ice and invite people to join us, you know, with their own tents, of course, we don't have the room in ours, but and we'll take over a cove or a lake or an area of a lake and we'll put on a little seminar and just show people how we do it back east. And I can teach people how to use the life scope and garment and I can even help people out with their electronics if they wanna bring it out. I'm pretty proficient with Humminbird, Lawrence and Ray Marine and any of them really, I can help you with your electronics and then show you guys like what we use for jack traps and how we set up for fish from the east and might be able to help you out there. And we'd be willing to, we would love to learn how you guys ice fish there and meet people and there's no doubt Don, he'd cook his donuts, his world famous donuts one morning on the ice and we'd probably cook some deer steak or some moose steaks on the ice too. So be a good time, be a good great time to meet some of the subscribers from the Minnesota area and spend two or three days on the ice with them if they wanna do that. So that's the plan now, you know, of course you gotta have ice in early December for that. And then I've just seen so much support from Wisconsin on this channel that and I just, everybody I've ever met from Wisconsin and a couple of them even came this summer and stopped by the ice cream shop that I think we're gonna swing over to Wisconsin after and try our hand at some Wisconsin fishing, some pike fishing and maybe get together with the guys from Acme Tackle, they're great guys over there and they're from Wisconsin and the Eskimo guys and maybe do the same thing like a meet and greet, you know, two, three days seminar on the ice. So yeah, so gonna see you and Donnie at the ice fishing show, can't miss, can't miss you this year, but that's for sure. We're probably gonna get over to the Eskimo booth. I know a couple of the guys there that are real good guys for Eskimo and we're gonna probably show you guys how we do our winter setup right there for people who can't come out and meet us on the ice. So you'll definitely wanna check in at the Eskimo 10. I'm usually over at the Garmin tent for a while to pick in their brains on what's coming next or how they could possibly improve. Just blows my mind that you can improve on what they're already doing. But yeah, so, and then you'll see me around the show. It's a three day show and I don't believe you could see it in two days. You know, you gotta be really rushing through to see everything in two days, all the new products and some of the old products and some really cool stuff. So if you're into ice fishing, I highly recommend that show. That blew my mind, you know, it on the Northeast, you know, ice fishing is big, but it's not huge. And I felt like I was right at home with everybody out there. It's huge out in Minnesota out that way. So yeah, so I'll stay on here for a couple more questions guys. If you have any questions or comments or whatever and I'll answer those for you.  I don't, it's just monumental amount of content footage and kind of how you gotta put it together. And yeah, it's gonna be a beast, but I gotta get that up pretty soon and that stuff should air while I'm heading back up to do some more and film some more. So feel free guys, any questions. I'll stay on here for a couple more minutes and then I'll head out, but otherwise really appreciate you guys supporting the channel, really support, really appreciate you guys supporting Donnie all the time and dropping comments for him. And he just, he's just an awesome guy that loves doing what he's doing and loves hunting fishing, trapping, camping, loves the outdoors and is really just an excellent builder and a phenomenal human being. So, you know, I really appreciate all support for him and he's like, you know, one of my best friends and mentors, obviously, and love having him on the channel and love seeing, I love seeing all the public responses, you know, whether it be private ones on here or when we're in public, if somebody recognizes them, it still blows his mind when they come up and say hello and he loves talking to everybody. So, yeah, so I guess, I guess we don't really have any questions coming in. Um, well, what else? I went over the plans, mills running, okay. Hopefully we can finish her off here and, uh, yeah, tractors are running, mills running. I gotta bring some fuel and water for tomorrow and we hopefully can dodge that, some raindrops and dodge that hurricane that's heading up to Maine pretty soon. Yeah, I think that's about it. So I don't know if any, if you guys can get through with questions or let me know where you're from, but I shot this one vertical, as you can see, with an iPhone. Let me know also in the comments and I'll be able to see them later if you guys like it vertical or horizontal. I think it's a lot easier for me to get everything in the picture going horizontal, but I don't know how that translates on your phones if you're watching on your phone. So if you let me know, if you'd rather see it vertical or horizontal, if you're watching it on your phones or if you're watching it on, uh, like your televisions or your computers or iPads or something like that, because that's gonna, um, that'll help a lot for how we shoot these lives in the future, because we plan on doing a bunch of them. Zach loves watching that mill run. Yeah, I do too. Can you do more live? Yeah, definitely can do more live, Attila. Like I said, a lot of it comes down to, like, where we have service and I picked up that Elon Musk space link or Starlink or whatever the damn thing's called. And it's spotty. It does work. It's spotty, but it drops a lot. Like it's, it's great drop, great drop. And on a live video, that's awful hard to do. Yeah, the Twin City Ice Fish are so second on. See you guys there watching from Milwaukee. Awesome. Yeah, Milwaukee's a place I gotta come. Yeah, I'd like to fish out in the harbors out there and try to get some of those big brown trout too. I've heard some amazing stories from that. Horizontal is a bet for the big screens, for sure. Yep, and if you guys just let me know if you're watching this on the bigger screens or your phones, then, you know, next time we might shoot this in horizontal rather than in vertical. Attila's from Hungary. This is, that's amazing. It blows my mind to see all the different countries and all over the world that this channel's reaching. You know, and the support we get is incredible. We get a ton of support from our Canadian brothers too. They're some great people. Yep. But yeah, there are some comments popping up. Looks like we got 33 people still on. Got 49 thumbs up, so people did like it. So I'll keep shooting them if people like it and comment on it and thumb it up. You know, I'll keep shooting these in the future. It's a little bit longer to do, you know, stopping and talking between cuts sometimes just to set up alone, but yeah, if people are enjoying them, I'll keep doing them for sure. I know Donny does too.  That four days up there was just, phew, that was like a sprint. Some serious hard work getting done, not a lot of sleep getting done and getting home and jumping right into it too. I told the viewers earlier, we milled up two spruce logs that we brought down from up north from the property and those were a pleasure to mill. You know, as green as they were, they're still lighter than the hemlock that's been down for two months and the knots are real small on them and they're clear and not at all shaky and I could see why the mills buy spruce over a hemlock or anything else. But what we have here where Donny and I live and on Donny's wood lot is a lot of hemlock, a lot of white pine and a lot of hardwood. So the best by far for building this camp is gonna be the hemlock. West Grand Baby, I love it. I was just talking with Brandon and Cameron about West Grand and they're just, they're really nervous about the ice there. I guess last year was really tough year on ice and there's no great access point there, you know, coming out by that dam with that moving water. I know Brandon rode a snowmobile down to the bottom there and about 20 foot of water once and I've heard of some other people not making it out there. So it's gotta take a decent year to get back on West Grand but that West Grand Slam series that we shot is still to this day one of my favorite ice fishing series. We just, we caught fish pretty much at will. You know, we caught all the species you could ask for there. We caught big white fish for Maine. We caught big tog. We caught beautiful landlock salmon as many as you could shake a stick at and we caught some beautiful cask too, which you know, you know, I like. So we had some good cast nuggets going around and then the camaraderie on that trip doesn't get much better. So, so yeah. And then we ran into some folks up in Ashland on our way home this trip when we were fueling up and they, they're gonna set up in Chamberlain at the Chamberlain parking lot this year. So Chamberlain's always won. We liked ice fish too. It's, you just got a chance to get a huge native brookie and you catch some big lake trout there too. And you're, you're in the wilderness. So that's what makes it really nice. So I'm sure we'll fish Chamberlain. I'm sure we'll fish West Grand. I've never missed a year on Moosehead, good, bad or indifferent. Moosehead's been tough on me, but I got it this, this last year. I was tough on her this last year. What you guys will see coming up pretty soon. And then I don't know, I mean, I'm always into the chasing giant crappie or state record crappie or state record yellow or white perch. That'd be a lot of fun too. And the bass fishing in Maine's fun. And then you catch brook trout pretty much anywhere. And I wouldn't mind catching some rainbows this year coming up in Maine, but awesome. Attila, well, we wish your dad a happy birthday. He's turning 50 pretty soon. That's great. We're, I'm gonna wait for one, I'll wait for if there's any more questions or comments guys.  There you go, hour and a half.  Thank you guys. Thanks a lot for the support. Thanks for tuning in and I'll see you on the next one. Donny and I got some plans for tomorrow. We're gonna do some milling tomorrow. So make sure you tune in for that. Maybe we'll go live in the morning. So if you're at work, I'll give you a little background music. So Attila, have a good night, buddy. Happy birthday to your dad. Everybody else, have a great night. And thanks for tuning in. Thanks for the comments and the thumbs up and hitting the subscribes goes a long way. And then when the live, the live's gonna come back on so people can watch it later, you could always throw a comment on there too. So really appreciate it guys. Zach's coming up to Maine next week for vacation. Any must places or things to do. That's tough one. What are you, I guess no one what areas is a key, but you can never go wrong in the lighthouses in Maine. Going to see in the lighthouses are awesome. The Rockland Breakwater is a really cool one to walk because it's about a mile out. Pemequette Harbor, Pemequette Lighthouse is amazing. The State Museum, if it's open, is well worth seeing. If you're going up North at all and you're near Patton, that Lumberman's Museum is well, well worth it. I hope they're still open. Some things close after Labor Day, but yeah, that Lumberman's Museum. Donnie and I had all we could do to get through that in one day, but yeah, I don't know, I'm trying to think. It's hard when you live in a place, cause you just kind of, you take it for granted and you get to see it every day. But when you travel, there's places that you're like, oh, you gotta go see this, you gotta go see that. But a lot of it depends, Maine's a really big state and a lot of it depends on like what area of Maine you're gonna be in, but if you're around the mid-coast area, stop in at the Jefferson Scoop Ice Cream Shop. I guarantee you won't get a better Scoop Ice Cream, but by better people either, you know, like my staff is there, the nicest, most thoughtful caring people you'll ever meet in business and they're super happy to help anybody and serve anybody. So if you're in the mid-coast area, name of that ice cream place is Jefferson Scoop. Can't ever go wrong there. Tell them you know me, they'll even give you a discount. If I'm there, I'll hook you up.  So all right, CJ, good to see you buddy. I'm looking forward to getting some fishing in and hearing some bird dog stories and maybe Donny and I can sneak over and chase one of them bird dogs around, Odis or any of them this fall might be fun too if you can work us in for half a day or something like that. But I'm gonna tune around guys, see if I can get in the editing room and go from there. Really appreciate all the support and I'll see you on the next live.


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