people can other surrounding towns and we have sort of an EAB containment site in place people can bring us wood we can have our community firewood program we can have a mill that can mill up this wood and also provide do the things that the park regularly does job training for youth and education programs so that mill is sort of tied into our mission and the emerald ash borer response so to answer your question we can definitely share it with other towns not like we're going to be milling wood everyday we have no aspiration of running a mill we have a lot of other things to do but you know we haven't we haven't beaten the bushes in other towns to say hey can you chip in for the mill I mean frankly I think it's a good idea and the way that we can capture that retroactively is to you know there's there's a product there that comes out of the mill that you know I'm not saying it's going to be a profitable yeah can you read it I'm not going to sit here and tell you we're going to be turning a profit on the mill in the parks department but it could pay for itself over time it sounds like there's general support for that one so I'm glad we have X there for now so we're not really voting on it quite yet we do get to a point where we're voting at the end but thank you is it okay that we move on okay Connor do you want to talk about the lobbyist thing I know I've made a pitchfork before I just want to throw it out there $6 billion budget state budget up there and what's scary to me is we don't know what we don't know some of these lobbying firms have five different staffers at any time sitting in the appropriations committee transportation committee there are a lot of opportunities that we don't know about what's happening to the other thing is just being a Dylans rule state we are at the mercy of the legislature in so many different ways so if we're really serious about some of these charter changes we want to have enacted it makes sense to have some sort of presence in the state house all the time to make sure we're putting the right levers and getting these things through there we have things on the wall right now they may not get passed unless we talk to the right people get the right people in the committees sometimes it's 15 minutes you've got to go testify here I hate contracting out I hate contracting out on anything but we don't have the resources in the clerk's office in the city manager's office to actually have that presence at the state house so I think this is something that could potentially pay for itself look at the microtransit we're dedicating $40,000 in microtransit money that might not happen unless it gets through transportation this year in the state house so again we can play ball in all of this but it doesn't matter much unless we actually put some skin in the game and put some resources into getting over the finish line we all have full-time jobs we can't be over there at the legislature sitting at the committee, testifying all the time so I think we need somebody at least who can give us the heads up when this happens because they won't give us the heads up the committee staff won't give us the heads up I don't think the chairs of the committee will give us the heads up I think we need somebody on the ground working for us like Burling that does with Premier Piper is this my face on it? Jack I may be disclosing communication that wasn't meant to be public but oh well I talked to Mary Hooper about this idea to say what do you think is there $10,000 worth of money there to bring back to the city and Mary's reaction was she's really doing everything she can to get payment in lieu of taxes for the city and bringing in the money that there is to get she observed that we have not really used our our delegation to work on substantive lobbying the way we could they would be willing to if we asked them to we have just thinking of the voter the non-citizen voter charter changed all it's in this as I recall it's stuck in the senate and all three of the two out of the three members of the Washington County delegation live in Montpelier all three of them are supportive of this issue and I think we can rely on them to we can call on them to work on this so I like the idea I don't really think it's cost justified although it's one of those things it's like hiring a fundraiser you never actually know but I think it's hard to put the money in for me I would say just an issue like the homelessness issue of like $57,000 we're being asked to pay for out of that you know is this a responsibility that really falls on the city of Montpelier or is it a statewide issue and as the human services is developing the list of what they want from the appropriations committee do we need somebody actually putting us into the conversation saying they're doing more than their share and I don't know like berries and appropriations 24-7 there is she in these other committees it's scattered I agree that we should be sitting down with the delegation and coming up with a legislative agenda each year and letting them help us but I'm not seeing to happen right now so if this could be a catalyst to have a comprehensive legislative agenda for the city I think that would have some value on itself one thing I would say I'm sorry is that we got the funding for the for the overflow shelter the warming shelter in Washington County and I think because of our representatives in the legislature and I think what's going to happen in the future I think there are serious questions about what's going to happen in the future but I think we're getting some state money would there be more I don't know I am very interested in this idea of do we as a group have a platform that we would want to advocate for at the state house you know are there issues that are in our interest I think that makes a lot of sense to at least at least do that which is something that we probably have to flag for another time if I could weigh in on this too a number of years ago we did have a fairly significant staff presence there we used to go up and maybe like on Tuesday mornings meet with the delegation we would actually have the council usually probably by now we would have had the delegation in and we would have laid out our top four or five issues for the year and communicated with those and obviously the league of cities and towns helps us on more general items but not specific things and then more recently Mayor Hooper was a local legislator so we had our mayor there every day and then Mayor Holler was there every day so the city had its mayor in the state house every day and so they kind of handled that for us you know and then would call us if there was a need for some of you know it's so handy we would just scoot down and get into whatever committee we needed to be and I think we're feeling that now that we got that separation that we didn't have and we need to be thinking about how to you know I think it's up to you guys what do you want whether you want to spend this money or whether we want to think about the issues we really want to focus on and communicate that to our thing and you know we have some staff that could go up we don't have unlimited staff but if that's a priority we can make it a priority with our budget staff I ask someone who basically does spend my days at the state house but on a narrow range of issues that are not often in the committees where most of the issues that the city is working so unfortunately he can step into that role effectively I don't think but I do I mean it's a totally different thing to ask your particular lawmakers to be an advocate for the city that you are and do a great job it's different to say that you're paying a lobbyist who is pushing for monitoring taking notes on committee hearings that might be a different committee than where our lawmakers happen to be and I mean I know the energy ordinance didn't all go through the there's been a number of issues on the policy side I do think we've talked about the Vermont Health Exchange idea can we get the city to be able to be part of that that would be a lobbying effort let alone looking for funding so I think there are both policy and that is a funding opportunity to potentially look at could we save the city I mean knowing the pressure that healthcare is putting on our budget this year and you know forcing a lot of hard decisions here so I mean I think it very well could pay for itself or it could be something we try and see you know how effective are we finding it and what are we getting out of it I think it would make total sense to say what are the you know the possibilities and maybe even sitting down with somebody between now and January 23rd and you know like are there would they see that there are things in the budget and pots of money people who do spend a lot of time in there like that this would make sense as a contract but I think we could do a little do diligence on that and look at an agenda and what opportunity really is there but it's a very different role I think than what any of us are playing or what our delegation plays the the other thing obviously this is this would start next legislative session but but now is when we have to decided unfortunately well I would dread to see us take a more active role with our legislators I remember they used to come into council way before my time here and I would come and attend those I also think we could try to look at some staff time to have some regular touch base but I don't think ten thousand dollars will buy you much lobbying time I know with the Berlin pond issue the small group hard lobbyists several years ago that was around seven eight thousand and it was you really have to use the time so carefully it's you know it's even hard for them to be where you want because they have more clients than just you so I'd like to see us work on our own agendas first before we lay out money for a lobbyist for such a small amount of time so first off I want to kind of second what Jack was saying that we could do more with utilizing our current delegation I think that's it you know we have a good asset there two I agree with what Donna was saying that you know you might not really get as much as you'd like to for ten grand from a professional what I was thinking was yeah I'm not looking to do this I've been out of it for four or five years to want to get back into it but years ago I used to go up there as a citizen and I used to monitor I watched quiet just sat there listened and then when things came up I was kind of ready and wasn't like a bull on a china chop and I kind of people knew me you know they've seen me around you know we got people in this city you know seniors and others and some of them have some experience with this kind of stuff why don't we reach out and ask somebody hey could you spend some time up there not every day necessarily and if you get a crew you know who knows but even if it's just one or two people they might be willing to do that just not testifying just sitting finding out well first finding out what committee's doing what check the boards outside each door see what the agenda is and find out if there's been changes and then with the ones that you want them to sit in you know they can sit in listen take notes give a call when something comes up to city hall I mean you got people in the city that I bet I'd be real surprised if somebody wouldn't be willing to step up to do it I did it on my own and there were others too you know I was focused on homelessness housing and mental health but you know I looked out for self and I'd let people know and you wouldn't need 10 grand you know have a program where if somebody's doing this you get them set up for a meal card for meals up at the stay house instead of them doing it out of their own pocket and that way they have the energy and stuff to do it and also you know the cafeteria is the best place to network you know with legislators and stuff I'll tell you and sometimes the best networking is you don't talk shop don't talk business just develop relationship hey we have gum beyond my time but you know anyway that's my two cents I guess I just want to say that this whole conversation has been a good education already I think it's a really interesting idea to hire lobbyist I'm not convinced that we need one right now but part of that is because of ideas like Morgan's or the possibility that some staff hours might be available for particular things or that we could come up with a legislative agenda that we would more specifically pitch to our delegation than we have in the recent past so I guess that's where I am at the moment I don't feel like I would necessarily need to fund this now but it's a great general idea I feel like I'm going to lose this one it's going to say that I feel like I'm going to lose this one come on I do think we should at the very least come up with a legislative agenda every year I feel like we're behind the eight ball right now and if we went around the room here would we know what committees every one of our issues is in I don't think we do I certainly don't and I could see some citizen involvement in this I just hope we don't put together a committee or say something like okay we need a consultant for ten thousand dollars public policy subcommittee to actually get this done you know there is some value and I'll continue pushing for it the next year having five staffers across the state house and all these different committees watching things people who know what to watch for you know what pots to begin to to actually get this money and I feel a little vulnerable that we don't have that now and I feel like it's a little hollow if we pass these charter changes and don't put the muscle in there to get these charter changes passed so I'll say my piece we don't even need to vote on it I can look around right now not even need to vote briefly I have the same sentiment as Connor I mean I think a policy agenda and you know getting our ducks in the road for whatever we can do this year and getting ready for next year I mean maybe I've just been around too long and I'm very cynical it's not monitoring it's also pushing and knowing who to talk to when like it's a whole skill set that's very it takes a lot of work and so if you know we get to the point where we really have developed that policy agenda that we feel like that kind of investment would be meaningful I think it would pay off for us I agree in terms of this legislative session do you think it's still worth trying to put something on the agenda for February I mean I was just writing down issues again I think we need to think about my particular specific issues because we are covered on municipal issues at least in theory I just wrote down what we've talked about tonight microtransit getting us into the exchange our charter changes of course funding for things like this you know I think you've targeted four things like that that are really hours and we find the committees that those are in and the people they are and if I know that those are our priorities we can communicate those to our delegation and then we can go up there and do it I mean I just made that up myself you may want to take that to the official one but I also don't think we need you know we need a 20 page or even 20 item agenda I think it's for us it's easy if it's really targeted so maybe we can plan on putting that on agenda next week February whatever soon I think that's a great idea I think we're ready to move on from that topic I know we're going to want to talk more about the homelessness task force but just really quickly can we talk about the downtown Wi-Fi does anyone want to advocate for downtown Wi-Fi okay does it make sense to talk about the community survey right now community survey that was the intent of putting 5,000 a year away and then every three years doing it only to say I think I spoke up in favor of this last year because it feels like a small and useful thing to do for a group that depends on data I don't feel terribly strongly about it but it feels like it's totally worth considering other thoughts I will also just express that I you know as someone who loves data I am interested in that and it doesn't if we add it it doesn't seem to budge the 4.7 which I recognize is not the only reason to do it but now you added the what do you mean to add the rec center too so I'm going to go out on a limb here I've been fooling around with dates and subject to change I really don't think we'll be issuing that rec center bond in FY21 regardless whether we do this in March or November just what you know it's a 12 month process I started looking at you know time you get started going through this even if you know passing March they're not going to start the next week in March it's going to be April May it's going to be completed the following May and then whenever that next even if we were to issue the bond which is usually do at the end of the project the following May the first payment would be due to the following fiscal year so I stand to be corrected but I believe that we would not have that for next year's budget so would you take it out because you put it in yeah I did but I wanted to say it before I took it out would there still potentially if there's like design and whatever like would there still be cost so once the bond is approved we're authorized to spend that money so we do what's typically do what's called a bond anticipation note so it's a short term borrowing and that provides the funding as needed basis and then because that's how we pay for construction and then once we know the final cost sometimes it's less than the actual bonding authority so then we bond for the actual amount payback the short term notes and then we just start paying off the long term so that's how we finance all our capital projects so we would have a short term borrowing and maybe a little bit of interest cost or something but we wouldn't have the big bond payment project because that's what we'd actually borrow it again I could be corrected but I believe that's correct okay great any other thoughts on the community survey just keep moving it's funny I had a transportation infrastructure committee last night and we talked about a variety of things about needs for data and needs for just planning to try to figure out what our needs were and then I woke up this morning at five o'clock and I was thinking well what could we have in a survey and how could we get that information and I recognize that's not the survey that you're talking about necessarily but but it could have some of those questions yeah exactly so I see the value of it I'm not arguing strongly to put it in but I see the value of trying to collect some information we can always change it later if people have further thoughts or want to take it out and I can barely hear you and it's one of those tricky things because it's not in front of you you have the other one in front of you is now other thoughts now about the survey are we basically at three in three right now or are we what do you think Connor? leave it in it's not actually when we have a more when we have dealt with the big one the homelessness then we can put it in and see what it does maybe let's take it out for now and we can come back to talking about it all right so the Homelessness Task Force okay I realize that we are at ten o'clock right now I'm okay going to ten thirty I'm gonna lose functionality rather quickly but hopefully we can make it ten fifty thoughts on the Homelessness Task Force what would you like to do? I want to advocate as strongly as possible as I can for this funding when we talk about priorities I think that for me that often starts with the people most in need and I think that when we formed the Homelessness Task Force which I was very happy that we did the purpose of that group is to come up with the best ways that the city can help with these issues I think the Task Force has done an enormous amount of work for the past several months unfortunately I haven't been there for the last few meetings so my detailed grasp of the last couple of things is lacking but I'm really pleased that Cameron has given us some memos that I think are on all your desks about some of the different parts of this request in order of my priority and again I think it's all extremely important in my priority order I think most important would be funding the peer support workers there's a lot of good solid advocacy for why that is useful in addition to being a social worker that we have through the MPD proposal and I just think it's really an important role to try to support second I would say would be the bathrooms and I think that's because I like universal programs bathrooms help everybody and it would be great period the fact that it is more of a need for some than others is just one more reason why that's a good idea to put it in and then of course the lockers are a really small amount of money and potentially a huge impact on people who have significant problems if they have a locker to keep their sleeping bag dry that's a huge impact so I can't say anything you don't even need to interrupt me I just want to be really clear that as a part of this request for this budget I'm assuming we're not talking about lockers and we're not talking about bathrooms which is what we're in presently and for this sake of expediency I would actually like to take that up separately at a different time because that's not a part of this budget discussion okay is that a fair statement is that how they went from 56 to 51 they took that out I was wondering so I'll just project here can you come up and use them the bathrooms were for both years in their initial proposal to us that's fair the bathrooms were for both years so yes all of our proposals are fiscal year some of them are 20 and some of them have a 21 okay never mind stand corrected then we do have two representatives of the task force here if I would unless it's a process thing I think if you have any questions about the content I'd like them to speak for the committee just to clarify it makes sense to me that the bathrooms would have an ongoing FY 21 the lockers do not have an ongoing cost they're just a 20 so the bathrooms and the lockers have a fiscal year 20 ask and then everything else is fiscal year 21 okay so we're not we're not talking about lockers necessarily in this budget no okay I just wanted to make sure it's clear about that thank you I guess I would just say we're talking about the 21 budget and I was corrected about the lockers in order of priority the peer social worker and the 21 portion of the bathrooms other comments Donna I would like to hear from the chief your budget has a social worker starting this coming year no yes would you clarify that for me where we're at so far is that it's the it's going to be a clinical social worker that is going to be a split between Barry and Montpelier whatever the match is but it's going to be the same amount for both Barry and Montpelier Montpelier we put in 16 but the range was 16 to 20 per community and then also I was informed by Mary Mullen from Washington Medical Services just the other day that there is the commitment from the Department of Mental Health for I want to say $40,000 I think $40,000 and then we're still hopefully going to have UVM Medical Center join us in that partnership for an undetermined amount that's where we're at and also that's depending on how I still have to have a follow up conversation with Ken Russell also just to kind of go over frequently he just put out what is the the social worker as an example some of the statistics and the one from the Burlington Treasury marketplace and some of the efficacy of that program that was actually started by then Chief Mike Shirling from Burlington PD to get that program many years off the ground so there is some support that also we think that this position can do to also help reach out to our homeless population as well and in some cases direct them to some services and I certainly am clear on to the impediment that they may have for some of the population as well because that person is going to be probably attached to us the police and some people might not be comfortable with that so we're also sensitive to that but we think there's a lot of opportunity to do more than just free crisis calls and that kind of thing and that is what's in place at this time and so we're and I just stuck to represent Peter Anthony from Barry yesterday morning at the State House and because again there's a legislative component and Representative Hooper is also supportive of following this very closely as well to make sure that we have sustained funding from the DMH side so Barry and Montpelier would have around 16,000 each 16,000 to 20,000 16,000 on the Montpelier side because I wasn't sure and then that goes added to the 40 that comes from Washington County Mental Health and this would actually be a position that would be purely a Washington County Mental Health position supporting the two police departments and some of the conversations we're having right now too is for example and a new unit is concerned about what are the statistics as far as how would this change because one thing I do is not only support people and improve their situation and minimize crisis but also are we making sure we're adequately diverting people away from the criminal justice system as well as diverting them from emergency department visits if they don't need to be there and help them where they're at so Barry has submitted a lot of the Chittin County statistics to Anna as well as so that's kind of where we're at so there's a lot of pieces to it but the commitment has been strong and we're very fortunate that we got the commitment from Department of Mental Health and my other question is if it doesn't pass in Barry it's not a stand-alone item that's within the police department's budget I'm not sure the mechanics of it but there is definitely a commitment is what I've been assured from both Chief Bombardier and certainly from Representative Peter Anthony I'm just checking to see if we were possibly going to be responsible for the whole thing so thank you no thank you a question for the task force members who's actually employing the peer support workers if you wouldn't mind speaking into the mic thank you so much I'm sorry we really want you recorded for the public so could you talk into that there are a couple of things that I wanted to comment on one is that both in terms of the function of street outreach and peer support there are a lot of things that were not touched on either in the budget request or in the comparison letter between the embedded social worker and the street outreach and if there's a point at which that sort of detail becomes a determining factor in whether that position is funded we can go into more detail some things are flexible and they may vary with the geography Burlington has slightly different needs than we do in different capabilities so in terms of some of the details of who is being hired I know last time you had brought up the question of whether it would be more cost effective to more advantage is to hire one person full time and we feel very strongly that hiring two people allows flexibility and allows us to close some of the potential gaps that we are trying to address the police obviously don't take weekends off but many other services do and if you have two people it's a lot more likely that you're going to be able to address that so I think it would depend on the specific needs of this area we would want more input from the different agencies involved but that would be flexible we have to look a little bit more at how that would affect both the focus of the position and the limitations of the position I think so that could be you know that could be flexible we're not extremely attached to one thing or another we thought maybe up here organization or you know one of the current providers would be the way to go or maybe not I think just having someone out there doing it because again the strengths are the fact that it occurs after hours it occurs geographically where people are and it is something that allows you to intervene at a different point I mean I think it complements the social worker but I think part of the goal is to intervene before it becomes a matter for the police or the emergency room and street outreach can sometimes save money by doing that part of it is also maybe to take a little bit of the weight off of the emergency services and the more highly specialized people by at times helping to deal with people who have chronic low level involvement with the emergency services that might be something that a street outreach worker could reduce the overall cost in dealing with these people again and again and also to deal with some people who don't normally come to the attention of the existing services so it may depend on what people decide is the priority in dealing with the homeless population in Montpelier particularly I'm losing functionality really quickly too so my apologies for that yeah thank you there other thoughts could you talk about the general responsiveness fund because I'm having a hard time just grasping what it what it's for whether there are other resources that could serve the function that this fund is designed to serve there are a couple things we are looking at as possibilities one is that apparently there are a number of unused vouchers in Vermont because of lack of case management support because of lack of landlords support landlords don't want to part of it is lack of housing but even the existing housing people wait sometimes years because there are no landlords that want to take a chance on someone without a rental history and we were thinking that there might be matching funds for if there were an initiative to help get people housed that if there was someone who could match funds in terms of supporting the landlords doing more case management to help people get through the process that would be one thing I don't know specifically where the money would come from can actually can wrestle or perhaps Cameron would be better able to speak to that I think I think hospitals have done it in some areas I'm not as familiar with that part of it but that would be the type of project as well as the sort of gap filling things you know like having a system that people can't utilize because of some sort of minor mechanical glitch you know that would be an example of a low cost application I know we very definitely want to look at other finding sources that might include hospitals the state private donors grants from foundations but at the moment there has been so much work to do with the holiday season and the short you know the shorter term goals that would be we are fairly certain that things will come up we do not know exactly yet you know there's a range of possibility I probably doesn't answer your question very specifically I'm sorry did you have something Lauren? kind of on in the vein of the general use fund or a flexible fund I mean part of me is like there's a lot of good ideas and a lot of good work that's been done a lot of it still needs to be fleshed out understandably given the kind of short timeline that the committee has been working on I mean I'm almost like doesn't make some sense to pick an amount to allocate you know I mean I think city government helping you know some of the most vulnerable in our community is what we should be doing and then give some flexibility and we can keep in touch on what that money is being used for but not be kind of line item by line item that's a point to some degree but say let's you know set up to a certain amount or something that we can see that there would be good uses for and not have to be totally prescriptive at this point that it's going to be this this and this there are changes we can't tell what specifically there will be but for instance economic services is talking about restructuring the money that went into the 211 system and we don't know yet what that's going to look like but one thing would be to be able to respond you know part way in the event that that is something that heavily affected people in Montpelier and we we don't know what their decision will be we've a couple of us have met with them and talked to them about possibilities but at the moment they're just sort of looking for input and we don't have any idea what that will look like but things do in certain areas things may change either with the churches or with economic services or other services and we'd like to be able to respond if an opportunity comes up so I have a bunch of thoughts on each of these items I'm trying to see if now is the right time I'm just going to jump in I guess I'm just going to go through each of the sections real quick I'm not going to talk about lockers right now but let's talk about that soon I am very interested it's something that I was hoping that there would be some specificity around and it sounds like we might have that but I haven't got a chance to read through that section or that email yet to get it today but as far as bathrooms go I am interested in setting up some port of parties around town in addition to what we have currently though I want to recognize that this is and this is kind of my impression of this kind of the whole thing is that this is all very new this is all very much in the we're kind of testing some waters here so I would propose that we have a six month trial with the port of parties that we try them in the proposed locations and honestly together with trash cans because I think that would be important and see how it works and then re-evaluate anyway you know was that successful was useful for the purposes that we thought it would be so that's that's thing number one so that wouldn't be three thousand dollars that would be fifteen hundred we do a six month pilot as far as the shelter extension I I want to be in favor of that but I'm not right now and the reason is for a couple of things one is that the I think it would make sense to do this if there were you know in hand commitments from Good Samaritan and the church to say that they are you know they're committed to doing this I don't know where that stands and so the second reason is I think it's a little I think it's unfortunate that Good Samaritan didn't ask for funding from our our community fund that to me would be the place to fund something like this and in fact I would have thought that we would have already been funding them I think they probably would have gotten some slice of that pie I assume if they had asked I don't know but that feels like the right place and if it wasn't the right amount that we could have adjusted that based on the timing and what not so I'm not there for that part of it as far as the street outreach position again this feels very new including the aspect of the social worker this is in itself a pilot that we're it's not really pilot I mean we're doing it but it's new for us and we're trying to see what is that how is this going to work for us and so do we jump in with two things that are sort of similar or do we try one and see how it works see what the gaps are to be fair I think I feel like I've heard enough to know that like no it is separate it's different in some ways there is it sounds like some overlap as well but I also wonder about whether or not that's the kind of position that we could contract out you know instead of having it knowing that we're not really a social services provider exactly there are other great organizations in the community could we be contracting with them to provide the service I have hesitations about this amount you know based on counselor Connor Casey the other day I'm talking about the value the amount that somebody might be paid for that if we were going to do this I would advocate that they be paid something more than what it seems like they're getting now and maybe that's a point that we can continue to talk about but that's just so you're aware that's my hesitation about that position there's a few aspects there as far as the general responsiveness fund I have even since the last council meeting I have gone back and forth about how I feel about this because on the one hand I appreciate that it is you know maybe we don't need to specify what everything goes towards but then at the same time that ambiguity doesn't necessarily feel super responsible so I have very mixed feelings about it and I guess I would say at this point if I were to to fund that I would recommend that it be at $5,000 and not $10,000 so anyway that's those are all of my thoughts on all that funding anything further Donna? I think perhaps we're a little bit on the same page I just find this such a huge amount that it becomes a much more social service than I think the city should be doing but I'd like the idea to do something that also gets a match that we go out and help people get grants just like the social worker that the police did with Washington County mental health that if we're going to do some peer support and it sounds like they are really valuable the information we've got both before and recently overstates that again and again but I do feel we shouldn't pay for it all the city has a responsibility but I do feel it has to be balanced it's also lobbying the state ourselves and our representatives to go after that so between looking at grants looking at partnerships I think it has a lot more to be done on the backside before I could put this much money into it and I like the idea of some sort of a trial with the bathrooms we've had so much problems with some of the public interface with people when some service or helping the public and the homeless share I think there's a lot of communications and community work that we have to work together on and how does the homeless help us keep things in order and clean and respectful for one another so I think that really takes a lot of community whether it's workshops, meetings it's back to the social justice kind of community with experts to help us do this that I just can't think it's us providing services that's going to make it work because this is trying to get people out of their place that they're in and maybe not everybody can make that move but I think the more that we can look at this as a way to help people re-establish a relationship and help us all of us to work together so that people aren't on the streets it's important and I know you have to do some safety net catching but I don't want to do too much from the city side. I want us to help generate more from the right sources that have the expertise to do this kind of work I think the lockers are great I think we need to think outside the box I made an email to Bill and Anne thinking about the pool house at our pool on Elm Street it's empty why don't we try to do something there for hours that has specific time some way to use that resource when it's sitting empty in the winter and maybe that's not the place but really start thinking about what we have and how can we then use it in a different way to help meet this need so I just think there's a lot more work to go before I'm ready to put $50,000 to this problem so I do feel if we can get an agreement to do the extension for the shelter that would be great in FY19 the Good Samaritan got $4,000 from the community fund and maybe we could we could allocate $4,000 more to the community fund and direct it to the Samaritan and get them back in that pool of money and thought so that's some of my scattered thoughts for two years they have it so we could that's possibly one of the things we could do which isn't completely relevant but just in terms of the six month thing I think it's a good idea I will say that the usage patterns change with the seasons and the places where people go change with the seasons so the one, particularly the one that's further out of town is a lot more likely to get a lot of use in the spring and summer and obviously not much use right now but having said that I suppose we wouldn't have to start now either then the proposed site is in the flood we're playing and I don't think we can put it there people driving back and forth from north of here and it may be I'm just saying as far as putting a portipot there I think there may be some conflicts there may be but we were trying to look at sites that would alleviate existing problems in addition to the homeless issue and thus be more cost effective one other thing about both the which may be obvious about both the salary that you're talking about is one that we didn't want an increase in the funding to delay the possibility of getting someone paid to do street outreach and two that obviously the street outreach the qualities that are most successful in a street outreach worker are often not the same qualities that are going to be you know make for a successful office worker or a police officer or whatever so I don't know how relevant the money may be relevant it may not be it may be unnecessary but anyway okay so that's thank you and it looks like Morgan has some thoughts about and then Lauren first off Morgan Brown district three resident first off I want to thank the council for what has done thus far including the overflow shelter funding it's only for 20 quads there's still people out there part of what the asks of war include helping those that are out there not in the overflow shelter I've been I had been previously homeless since I was 17 the last go around was 12 years and I was spending it around my pay and one of the reasons why I lived homeless so long is I didn't have somebody doing outreach to me and if there had been I think I wouldn't have been homeless so long and I think if this isn't just a national problem it's not just a statewide or regional problem it's a local matter and it needs local solutions local funding it does if we want to solve it we have to we really have to find creative solutions I thank you for creating a homeless success for us you've asked citizens to come together and pitch in and try to find solutions and so these funding proposals are part of that and street outreach is essential especially for people like me who would go the other way avoid people who might want to do more than I want and might want to run my life and there's a lot of reasons for that but I won't go into all that but unless you want me to but everybody's situation is different it's not all the same I'm just speaking for me but I'll tell you one thing that finally ended homeless is a housing that works here in Montpellier gave me a ride because I missed the bus and got me into Montpellier and then I said can I ask you a question and I asked them about housing I got housed and I had to do with that person and bend it over backwards somebody I knew for years and other people family others and I got housed and that's what it takes takes people building relationships and trust and it works I know I've been housed for ten years and I'm grateful and I just want to see the opportunity for other people so the port apologies six months is better than none so yeah alright but the social workers excuse me street outreach workers if I said social workers before I meant street outreach they were essential initially I had been asked but then got housed it was twice the amount that was going to be asked for you know and that would be great if you want to fund that super but it got trimmed down and cause for different reasons including we really need this it's essential some point if you want to raise double the salary hey fine okay let's see the lockers I had no place to put stuff and sometimes I was carrying it around or you have to session somewhere it's not always great way to session and 20 20 years ago over 20 years ago I used to be able to walk a lot but because I was carrying all my stuff around I seriously hurt my legs ankles and feet and that's why you see me walking around with a cane and walking sick because I haven't healed from that and I probably never will and having some place to put sleeping bag and backpack and things like that if it's big enough oh I saved somebody a lot including their body I didn't mention my back it's like it would it would have been very helpful and that's all I'll say unless I'm asked thank you for your support and then I just want to really thank Morgan you came down to support earlier discussion and stayed for this so thank you so much for sharing so openly thank you and he made me think of something else and it's that it's it is not just Montpellier's problem and hence I feel if we don't get other communities to buy in people cluster here but guess what they come from other places and I would hope that the region particularly Barry Montpellier and Berlin would work together some of these programs just again as they're doing with the social worker and I'd like us to keep that in mind it's a regional problem and we can be the catalyst for it but I don't think we should fund it all by ourselves agree with what was said about the street outreach and how skipping that step something that's really been identified through the task force as something that could make a difference to people who are not able to get other services to skip that would be I think not in our community's interest and I also see the person who could do street outreach could also help with things like interfaces with the porta-potties between the public and the homeless in general things like concerns that businesses have about homeless on their streets or on their property the street outreach person could be someone who these concerns could be taken to and then delivered to the homeless population so I'm urging you to fund that thank you as I think of this I think that the street outreach position is probably the highest priority in my mind for this I'm not sure how to think about and so I support that that we do that with regard to the portable bathrooms I heard what was said about moving them around one of the things that I think about with the bathrooms is that I don't see that necessarily as an issue just for homeless people I think that in general cities don't do a good job of providing public bathrooms for people and I can see see this be a transitional approach to having one or more locations for permanent public bathrooms for people I know we have in during the business day City Hall has public bathrooms the police station has a public bathroom 24 hours a day but I think that's probably not enough to meet meet the need with regard to the idea of saying well let's do a six month pilot and then see how it goes if we get through six months and it's a success at that point we will not have allocated the money for the next six months so it's kind of a tough thing to do a six month pilot as part of an annual budget I think that the extension funding for the homeless and the shelter is pretty hard to know where things are going because I think we have a much bigger question which is are we going to have a partner who is going to be willing to provide a shelter I don't think there was ever a commitment that the church would be providing a permanent shelter for the city I think that we can count on that so if we're looking at something other than where the shelter where it is now $15,000 is is a pittance compared to what the need is likely to be so I support the outreach position I support the portable bathrooms I'm awfully vague on the still on the general responsiveness fund and so I would like to see more more detail about that I talked to Ken Russell the newly elected chair of the homelessness task force today and he wasn't able to be here tonight but he also I expect that he'll be next week and I would expect we would have more of a discussion of this next week when we have our first public hearing on this but I would put something in for this as of tonight would you fully fund the street positions? yeah I would so if you take $5,000 off which was in suggestion for the general fund then it comes to the 51 that's up there if we were to add the 51 I guess I wouldn't want it to see necessarily committed to these line items I'd like to have a further discussion and I'd also like to have a deep discussion before any distribution because again we could still use some of this money to try to find matches what we see in that column there is 41 is that what you were talking about plus 15 so that's 56 if we just went with the street outreach position and the bathrooms as you're suggesting that's a total of 31 for if that if that sounds well that's one possible way we could go I think one of the I'm sorry Donna I think one of the stipulations that we put into the ask for the contingency fund or responsiveness fund or whatever was that it would be subject to the approval of the council before it was actually spent I didn't know if that was written into it or if it was just something that someone invented but the way that fund was talked about it's for emergency when they can't get into housing they can't get into a shelter they need transportation I understood that at least a great portion of it was so to help whoever is in charge of it be able to act right away that's a relatively small portion I think that particular usage is something that could be set up in advance if the entire fund wasn't used it could be recycled back into the fund there was talk of having a like a petty cash fund but that would be something that I would think that we would look for from other sources you know and again I wouldn't I don't think we would expect you to fund something like that without knowing what the potential uses and the projected amounts would be beforehand again this is new to all of us in terms of actually getting funding for this so it's hard to say thank you Connor I'm a zealot on this one and you already referenced this and I know the task force would fund these positions probably at like 20 bucks an hour if they knew we would fund it but I just can't justify by the nature of the work that these positions do that they should be paid less than what we consider a livable wage for our own tax incentive program which is the lowest paid worker in Montpelier municipal government there I think if it's worth doing you pay them a livable wage and so I would consider like again trying to move this into one position but make sure we professionalize it otherwise I would call it a stipend because it's not a job I think it's an hour in Montpelier it's going to be homeless on a long enough timeline if that's our one source of income that they're getting so I have real discomfort let's just pay in 12 bucks an hour on this so would you want to keep it but increase the pay one position at what like what's the math I mean to me 15 is the floor and I don't have a calculator in front of me but I'd like to see something more like that but you're not talking about job sharing you're talking about one person doing the job for a salary amount okay I mean I don't think anybody would turn it down I think part of it is that the people that you get who are highly qualified to do it nobody says hey I'm going to be a street outreach worker and get rich I mean people tend to do it because they have a passion for it or because they're able to do it so they find themselves doing it and I think for a lot of people it's more important that it be done then you know on the other hand you're right you have to survive in order to continue to do it or there's nobody there to do it because people are out spending their time getting a decent salary somewhere else but I think it's a balance and I think that often the people who do look at that are going to be almost more concerned that it gets done than they are that they get a lot of money she said repetitively but anyway I mean if you wanted to pay more I don't think anybody would really argue with that right just worry about setting the precedent for that hourly salary can you call it an introductory rate or a trial period or a half rate trial period or I don't know well again I would call it a stipend if that's what we're doing well that's the nature of the work call it a stipend you know anything is better than nothing and that sounds terrible doesn't it but just just getting it to happen would be really beneficial Lauren do you have any thoughts on this I mean I definitely I see some logic to if we're going to put money in into a position because that person would then be you know getting paid to be doing this work and sharing information with us on what the most pressing needs are and potential solutions and potentially of access to other resources are out there and potential matching things so it seems like it does bring a professionalism to be able to work with a task force but somebody that can really be focusing on this for the city so I see a logic to starting there potentially and then seeing future needs or opportunities for other funding sources and things to supplement what the city could do I mean I do kind of go to what Donna was saying of you know if we allocated up to a certain amount without having to say I've never read through the budget before so I don't know how often you do this but you know that because it does seem like there's still a lot of questions you know how who would actually employ that person is that a contract thing I don't know where in the city if that would be a city employee that seems I don't know where they'd be housed so it seems like there's a lot of questions to answer I mean I think and I defer to Cameron I don't know if she has a better idea because she and I haven't talked about it but it does you know we don't really have the sort of supervisory capacity to handle it so I would think we would want you know I'm not sure it would be our employee anyway it would be us partnering with another agency that knows how to do this it would be my thought and one thought is that we I mean even if we were going to contract it out put out an RFP for like who could do this work is I mean we would still I would assume at that point put some money in the budget to do that and it's also conceivable that that money could serve as some kind of a match to help leverage other dollars you know if let's say we you know put it in the current rate anticipating that that's not enough you know that that could be a point of you know leveraging other dollars but I it's approaching 11 o'clock I would I would love to have some kind of like I think this is the only point about which we don't have a lot of clarity we can nail this down then we can vote on something and we done does anyone have a budget number for the Homeless Assurance Board that that you would like to propose at this point well my scribble numbers I can't do 45,000 and that was 3,000s for the toilets 15 for the extended time on the shelter 20 as seed money for a position and then the balance being for the constituency fund or general fund I would potentially be for all of that except for the homeless shelter in that there are too many moving pieces there that I am uncomfortable with I guess that's why I was talking about a lump sum and those I'm just using the numbers that they gave us but I don't want to nail being exactly that number but that's the numbers behind my gross number just as far as the overflow shelter goes and the uncertainty around whether the current partners will continue to provide that service that we are assisting with I guess it's not clear to me why we can't put the money in the budget hoping that that will be the case that they will continue it's not that we have to spend the money if one of those partners falls through is that is that not true at least in my take on that it's this is money that we are taxing from the public and so having being able to point at where it's going to be important and for it to be going for something that is got had some question marks around it to me seems not the responsible thing to do but it could just it could just sit there potentially or or not if it's sort of a lump sum and we haven't decided what it all goes towards and other thoughts on this on Donna's I offered 45,000 45 so that brings us up to 4.2 would you be game for that would you want to see it modified um I was just doing some math on my on my phone and the proposal for the outreach workers is about $11.70 an hour not counting any kind of overhead social security or anything else um if you consider a full time 40 hour work week adds up to 2,080 hours per year if we if we peg that at $15 an hour that's 31,200 um so I would I think I would start with 31,200 and then do that incorporate that into the figure that Donna raised which is which makes it more than 45,000 it's about $11,000 $11,000 more you're back up to 51 you're back up to 56,000 and with not paying the the rec center bond in fiscal 2000 sorry that's already gone right I know but that gets us to ballpark 4.6 right but if you didn't I'm just suggesting but if you I mean one of the issues I think maybe also with the and I'm with you I think obviously I advocated strongly actually for us to extend the shelter season this year and we came up with the money but it also to some extent we just talked about lobbying the state and if we're showing their hand that we're going to pay for it then how do we go to them and say we got no money to pay for extending the season you know you should be covering this time if we're going to do it you know if you did I don't know the other thing to do is to pick a number that you're comfortable I think Lauren suggested this earlier and send it task force meets every week they'll be here next week and say what if we gave you $45,000 how would you propose to allocate that how would you prioritize that they are the folks you've asked to look at them meeting next week is the state is having their homelessness awareness day so we're freeing up time for our task force to be at the state house beautiful day to say 15 Morgan do you have something to add yes I'll try to be quick I didn't mention it before I'm a member of the homelessness task force in fact I was voted vice chair today alright so what you're discussing right now is the 2021 budget requests from the homelessness task force I'd like to remind the city council that there are also the 2020 budget request for the initial funding of the bathrooms and the lockers yes we would take that up another time okay thank you yes thank you okay so Donnie your proposal was $42,000 is that right? $45,000 and Jack you would make that more like $56,000 $56,000 other thoughts what where are you at I'm with Jack $56,000 Connor I'd like to see what the task force could do with $45,000 I realize that the time is not sinking up well but this is kind of a big one I don't know if they couldn't meet again next week or something this is the culmination of everything we're doing so I think it makes sense to get a sense of what they want Lauren yeah I guess I would also be interested in the $45,000 budget what they'd come back with yeah I'm definitely more on the $45,000 and I really like the idea of having seed money for the out street outreach position and seeing what we could do to get some matching grants get some partners because that's again this is new this is not something that we know how to do really yet yeah so anyway that's where I'm at and that I think takes 4.2 which is more than I would really like I mean if it were up to me actually I know I'm doing this stingy one here I would have been proposing something less but if that's where if that's where we're at then that is it and it's really the I mean what are the biggest chunks of the additional stuff here it's really it's really the homelessness task force that's pushing us sort of the CBPSA which is new and the CBPSA that's true it's pushing us sort of over the edge so okay so we have potentially a budget here I would if yes Jack I should just point out one thing that isn't reflected in these figures yet which is that we unless there's we don't know what petitions are going to come in but we just saved almost $6,000 in the Montpelier Community Fund appropriation because we plugged it in at 137 but we'd already made that adjustment in the budget before tonight okay I'm using the previous version of the spreadsheet well just ask a procedural question would you all be comfortable getting response from the homelessness task force on the 23rd? would that be okay? well sure I think we should vote on a budget tonight and we can always adjust it okay so whether or not we hear further detail from them great but that's where we're at yes I really need to go to the restroom are we going to vote on this or was it not enough? well I think we should have a vote I think we need a vote okay fair is there a motion regarding this budget currently stands do you want to go out and do that and come back for it? no it's almost is there a motion? I move the proposed budget second further discussion all in favor please say aye thank you and we can change it go ahead from this point but at least we have a place to start the one just make one observation when we came in with the very scary health insurance increases at the beginning of this process there was a lot of offline discussion about what should we be doing with our budget and there's a lot of discussion maybe with that increase what we should be doing is status quo and nothing more and this isn't much above status quo so I don't feel like we're being responsible with our money if this is where we wind up we're moving on we've made it through our agenda council reports we're not going to start with Donna maybe we'll come back I'll be at Baguio's tomorrow 8.30 to 9.30 and I have recently been to the gallery for board meetings there they're doing well head down there soon for an exhibition by Peter Schumann of bread and puppet this month I can't remember the opening date but look on their website and I've also been recently at another way which also continues to be a wonderful place we've been talking a lot about the newly open transit center and the bus routes and I think I will have more to say about that at a later date but not tonight, thank you Jack the main thing I want to say is that all of us on the council received an email the other day and it's been in the news that Chief Fakos has announced his retirement and I just want to honor him before he leaves but I want to recognize the great professionalism he's brought to the job over decades and thank him for service. Only thing I wanted to mention was the Montpelier representative to the central Vermont solid waste management district had to resign so if anybody is interested I'm the alternate and I would love to stay the alternate but if anybody is interested in applying for that please do so it will be posted at some point soon and advertised but it would be great to get somebody representing our city really actively on that I also I passed I also want to thank the chief Light of his retirement in July and thank you for all your good work gosh we have quite a process now to try to find someone to fill your shoes that's going to be a tough process but we're really grateful for your years of service so there's that I also just wanted to report that we had a great meeting last night as it's been mentioned with the rec center public meeting getting information out I thought that was really valuable really well attended great feedback great questions so that was a success done, John I will not be long either so I was going to acknowledge the chief as well also note that officially now as of December 31 Jeff Beyer has retired as has Tom McCartle we've talked about those so we certainly thank them for their service and we will have a challenge coming up and also officially this week Kelly Murphy is now officially our finance director and working and Jasmine Lam some of you have met at City Hall and we're very fortunate that Jamie and Todd are still around helping transition that so more to come on all of those things and it's too late to talk about anything else other than Jeff had a nice party at the culture center with the garage it was really nice and I think something is in the works for Tom stay tuned all right so without objection we are considering this meeting adjourned


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girl it's time for another chit chat and let me um let me do something make me a little cute I always feel like if you put on like a little rouge some lipstick I need to go through here I have a lot of makeup a lot like a whole setup all right that's something honestly you can use mascara for your eyebrows let me show you real quick girl that's dumb it's hell don't do it yeah I know I'm never prepared y'all know how we do this I talk about what's going on in my personal life what I'm watching on YouTube and what I'm watching on TV what I'm going to do what I'm going to be doing with my hair is moisturizing my hair okay because it is dry as heck and it's hot here doing the summertime Jamie is so spoiled cuz he's my husband and I only baby my husband has a previous child who's she's well he's I'm sorry he's grown as hell child but he's our only child together we got him some musical instruments hands on so he could play with one of them it came with a rain doesn't sound right with 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was even reading somebody mentioned a couple of days after the incident happened she said that I guess she lives in that area and she's like yeah I'm very familiar with this this family and they are a problem they've always been a problem and it's about time that someone finally did something about I'm like wow that's that's crazy to me but let me tell you how petty Amazon is I'm on Amazon I'm getting my excuse me I'm in my email and I risk you know how you receive emails from Amazon I get an email that says we know that you were looking for furniture I'm like no I wasn't here's some furniture ideas ideas they sending me pictures of white folding chairs I'm like y'all petty as hell first of all you know I'm black due to my personal history when I purchased in the past so you already know that you know I'm in the south you know that by my address so you think because I'm a who the hell do I need to contact this is a mess what else what else you guys YouTube yeah we're on YouTube so again I'm watching you know true crime always gonna watch true crime watching some of the videos on the Alabama Bama incident also I started to rewatch a couple of old youtubers again some people that haven't seen in a while as you to is definitely tripping because I still subscribe to these people and I'm not getting any type of notifications so I showed up to s Hutchison one of her live videos actually was a yesterday of the day before yesterday and I hadn't seen her in a while and so I showed up in her live some other people one sexy Tina child Tina went over to her channel was watching some of her old videos went over to Mitchie witchy the blowout Dominican blowout Queen herself let me say something I love me some Mitchie witchy and she's known for her Dominican blowouts also went over to Leo body Leo body hat she transferred or changed her channel name to Leo body wellness and I'm subscribed to her on Instagram but I can't find her Instagram anymore so I don't know if she's going through some personal stuff I know over the years her mother had passed away and I'm pretty she's gotten a divorce I think she was in Atlanta but she's from Atlanta living in LA but I'm missing your body there has been some changes going on as far as youtubers who do family vlogs so now the state of Illinois has a new log that states that if your child is in your in your vlogs 30% of the time they are in children influencers content creators they are entitled not even entitled they deserve some of that income which is really good because I know if so many I've heard of so many family vloggers that just do drama on their channel just for the view YouTube not surprised at all um what else what else what else that's about it you guys as far as YouTube goes I was showing them how to make it work Shady tell them how did you like this Billy I mean the first week so what I'm watching on YouTube and TV so I am so glad that only murders in the building is back on Hulu I absolutely love it it has this is funny it has Steve Martin and Martin short and what is a little girl name I can't remember her name but for the third season it has Meryl Street and she's looking all she's looking basic as hell but I love I love the series let me tell you something Martin short and Steve Martin they are both ass clowns I know I shouldn't be cursing like this but they are clowns and I love that slapstick physical humor I love it I laugh out so much when I be watching them so I love again it's only murders in the building there was a one of my favorite movies I love those little gyms we live in a small town and it's all about basic house family lifestyles I love those type of movies so one of my favorite movies is what's eaten Gilbert great with Juliette Lewis Leonardo DiCaprio he was like a baby like 1819 in this movie and Johnny Depp he was so fun and we know I didn't like his hair but you know what you guys was so funny is the plus size woman which I knew she had passed away years ago and she actually lived to be like 71 72 she lives here in 40 which is the city I lived and she actually passed away here she has family here in 40 so she lost a lot of weight though y'all and she was that big I know my sister was like was she really that big I say she really was that big but I think she had surgery you know the one of those surgery the gastric or one of those surgeries to help with you know when we are morbidly obese and she lost 250 pounds which is a feat in itself but unfortunately a lot of a lot of the times when you have those type of surgery it comes with a slew of medical issues because you have to think about it you've been big that person has been big all this time the surgery isn't going to like resolve everything but it's going to allow you to live longer and have an overall healthier lifestyle I even remember speaking of an old y'all remember because Kiana she actually went to Mexico to have her weight loss surgery done and she passed away due to some other issues but I'm pretty sure it was still it was after her surgery which is so sad after her surgery so um what is that okay so again watch what's eating goba grip y'all I started back watching the 100 and I was so confused I'm like what the hell are they talking about like and another body I forgot all about this episode they're on another planet and on this planet they can go through a type of ordeal where you can switch bodies you can literally go into someone else's body and that other person is still there but they're in the back oh I'm gonna watch this episode this series all over again at least that season cuz I'm so confused and I want to finish the 100 though I watched a movie there's certain movies that are a little disturbing to me and I can't really watch again but I decided to watch this movie again nocturnal animals with Amy Adams and Jake whatever with the pretty eyes with the pretty eyes and you guys you know what Amy Adams is that phenomenal beautiful redhead actress that also played in their arrival she I was confused cuz she looks like another actress and this actress is actually Australian and she played in secrets of a shopaholic they're two totally different people and for the longest I guess people thought they were the same person and they're not but anyway nocturnal animals great great great movie I've watched it before but I did want to watch it again there's another one of those stalker I love you but not leave me fatal attraction top of movies called obsession that's on Netflix that I want to watch I added to my list another movie that I watched you guys and I was like I was a little leery of watching it because it has said actor that played it and that man kind of freaks me out not because he played it but his entire looking everything about him just kind of freaks me out he's English I don't remember his name but he played the character it then the latest one right he's very young looking but he's not he's in his 30 he looks like a baby boy but anyway devil the devil all the time this movie was a little disturbing but it was good and had that vampy actor from from a tenant and the werewolf the werewolf vampire yeah I never had my something alive the name below but it's a really good movie about a surrounding of a boy basically a boy talking about everything from when he was a baby up until a young adult in his life and what happens and so it has to some a-list actors and the movie and I was really really impressed by the acting and the accents because like I said the vampy British actor had to pull off a southern accent now you guys you wait you're not from the South in my opinion a true a really good southern accent it's really hard to pull off but I do find that English people or people from Britain and in Australia do a really good job pulling up from off a southern accent and probably perhaps that's because a lot of people from those areas did migrate to the South I mean especially Texas we have entire communities of Europeans there's even a dialect called Texas German I don't think a lot of people speak it anymore but they there's a Texas German there's little towns here that are I mean there's a Paris Texas you know so anyway you guys that is it I have nothing to talk about now I'm rambling on so that is it thank you so much for watching I think you as always to all of my new subscribers take care