All right. So Darnell, I think Ben Williams, as Ana Rita mentioned before, is our keynote speaker for today. And he is currently the equity, diversity, and inclusion senior administrator of professional growth and school culture in the Brockton, Massachusetts public schools. Darnell has over 25 years experience in a variety of educational settings, as well as extensive training and expertise in strategies that promote culturally responsive and sustainable practices in support of equity, justice, and transformation. Darnell was previously the associate director of professional development at the Collaborative for Educational Services, the Collaborative Educational Services Department of Youth Services Education Initiative. That's a mouthful, but the Collaborative for Educational Services holds the contract for the DYS education program in Massachusetts. Several of us here at the writing project have worked extensively with Darnell when he was in that role on professional development related to the creation of DYS instructional guides in ELA, science, math, and history. We all learned that Darnell is not only a person of wisdom and expertise and passion for his work, but also one of great compassion and humanity, an inspiration to all of his collaborators.  So it's my pleasure to welcome Darnell Thig Ben Williams to give this morning's keynote. Thank you very, very much. I'm so excited to be here at the best practices in the Teaching and Writing Conference. It's so good to see so many familiar faces. I was sort of scrolling through and I see a number of faces that I've worked with, so I'm very happy to be in your presence. I'm thankful to the Western Mass Writing Project Conference Committee for this wonderful opportunity to talk with you about the impact of COVID on education and discuss opportunities to reimagine and re-center teaching and learning, particularly for our most marginalized and disenfranchised students. And as Bruce said earlier, that's really where my passion and my heart lies. So as our students return to the classroom after over a year of remote and hybrid learning, loss and trauma are ongoing things. As many as 140,000 children have lost at least one parent or guardian to COVID-19. Lockdowns and quarantine meant social isolation resulting in depression and anxiety in children and adolescents. Schools are supposed to provide a sense of safety, security and stability. But switching from in-person to remote to in-person again only produced increased levels of stress and anxiety. One thing that I believe that COVID showed us is that schools haven't focused enough on the well-being and social emotional needs of children. And I heard that when Mamadou spoke and other people spoke, that we're not seeing the whole child. We only seen a slice of them. Academics represents a slice of them. So before COVID shut down everything, our schools had a narrow focus on academic achievement and assessment almost to an extreme. And that extreme was to the detriment of recognizing the needs of the whole child. I remember conversations sitting in professional development sessions prior to COVID and hearing talks such as we pride ourselves here in the Commonwealth for being number one in educational achievement. Number one. But we glossed over the fact that when it comes to providing equitable educational outcomes for our ethnically diverse students, we rank number six from the bottom on that list. So achievement is fine to be number one, but when it comes to equity, we at the bottom. And we need to face that. Massachusetts is actually one of the worst states for closing equity gaps. And when I'm talking about equity gaps, I'm not only talking about education because education is a microcosm of larger oppressions and inequities. So according to the 2015 joint publication between Duke University and the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston and the article, the color of wealth in Boston, White households have a medium wealth of $247,500, while Dominicans and African Americans have a medium wealth of $8. So what we experience in schools is also related to these larger inequities. Educational achievement gaps persist for black and brown and poor students in the Commonwealth. And these gaps are rarely discussed with any sense of urgency that leads to accountability. Black boys are more likely than any other group to be placed in special education classes, with 80% of all special education students being black or Latinx males. Black boys account for 20% of U.S. students labeled as mentally retarded, even though they represent only 9% of the population. On the other end of the spectrum, black boys are two and a half times less likely to be classified as gifted and talented, even when their academic record shows that potential. But the statistic that I tell you keeps me up at night is the one from the Bureau of Justice that now predicts one in three black male babies born in this country are expected to go to prison. One in three. Now that wasn't true in the 19th century. That wasn't even true in the 20th century. It has become true in the 21st century. And there is this appalling silence. There is this indifference to racial disparities, racial inequities.  You are here about the debacle around critical race theory. There's like actual resistance to talking about these issues that we all are experiencing. And it bothers me because I see in poor and marginalized communities hope being crushed and sucked out of our children. And I do believe that you can't get to justice without hope. They go together. They are tied together. As Bruce, when he introduced me, he mentioned that I worked at the Collaborative for Educational Services under the DYS contract. But for the past 13 years, I worked with DYS. And I have the honor and privilege of working with teachers and young people across the state through DYS who are all in DYS custody. And over the years, I've been able to mentor several of the young people and build supportive relationships. And I have to say that of all the 13 years, 10 years at the Collaborative and three years at Commonwealth Corporation through the Department of Youth Services, the thing that really gave me life was being able to visit programs and see students and really being able to talk and listen to the students. And I have to say that DYS is really ahead in many ways in terms of schooling. What I mean by that is proximity. That DYS schools are inside of where they live, right? And so our teachers are not only seeing students in an academic context or an educational context, but they also see students how they socialize, how they eat, when they don't want to come to school. So in some ways, to teach in DYS is almost akin to home visits or community visits, then present in the community. We can't teach what we don't know. And if we're not proximate with our students and our families, we can't really support them because we don't understand them. And I think that is the been proximate or that proximity that's really going to give us the radical empathy that we need in order to build these relationships. And I think some of you said it earlier, teaching is really a key teaching is a small piece of it. But foundational is the relationships. You know, so I think that while students and not in every DYS program, there was nightmare stories and some of the DYS programs, but there was also great successes and great lessons to learn. But the thing that really depressed me talking with some of the students in DYS is that many of them said that the way I am in DYS is different when I go back out, when I'm discharged from DYS. And it's different because when I go back into my schools, my teachers don't know me. They think they know me because they're looking at the D that I got or the C that I got, but that's not really who I am. And that those teachers in DYS, they knew me because they saw me when I was at my worst. And they stayed with me and they cheered me on. And when I came to class and I didn't want to learn, they sat with me and asked me, what are you interested in? How can I support you? What do you need from me? How many teachers do you actually hear say that? When I go to school, I'm working in the Brockton public schools now. And I see teachers are saying, this is the time, right? And I have to teach this amount of content during this period. And if you're not going to come into my classroom and really engage, get out. That's the reality. That's the harsh reality. But we forgot about the trauma. You know, and I think that COVID woke us up to some of these traumas. You know, every student that I talked to in DYS and outside of DYS and I experienced myself, I lost a lot of people to COVID. And I lost three family members to COVID. Students also lost family members to COVID because to be black in many ways is a culpability, right? And so if we're not talking about race, we're not really understanding the fullness of who our students are. They can't turn off their race to come into your classrooms. Their race is always on. It's who they are, it's their identities. And when they get messages from schools that say, leave your baggage outside the door, that's basically telling them, do not come here unless you can assimilate to whiteness. That's the harsh message our students are getting. That's more trauma. That's the racial trauma that we'd never talk about. And not talking about racism in school is almost akin to what we were talking about in the 1970s and the 1980s that we now realize is ridiculous and ludicrous, colorblind policies and practices. We don't see color. We teach. We don't see color. But if you don't see color, then how are you going to see me? How are you going to see me when I show up and I say, this is what I need? I have an uncle who just went to prison. How are you going to see me? How are you going to see what I go through in my communities? That's what our kids are coming. So someone was saying earlier, how do we make learning purposeful again? It's about seeing our students, seeing their visibility, not making them invisible. And how do we do that? We get human. We get proximate with our students. When I was teaching in Cambridge, I lived in the community that I taught in. And I would worship at church on Sundays and I would see family members. I would go to grocery stores. I would see families. I would see my students. They saw me in the community all the time. And I think that them seeing me in the community, they knew that when the power went out, I also lost power. They knew that when devastation hit their households, I also experienced similar devastations. And when I came to school the next day to teach, it wasn't going straight to the academics. It was really acknowledging their humanity and that we just experienced something. And I'm not going to pretend like the elephant is not on the table. We're going to acknowledge what we just experienced. And that level of acknowledgement is necessary to going right into learning. So I think that education in this country is doing exactly what it was designed to do. And that is to produce gross inequities for his non-white, poor, and female students while systematically privileging wealthy white boys and men. And we see the manifestations of racial and economic inequities and traditional educational approaches. First, teaching and learning have traditionally established academic spaces as dominant white spaces where white students are centered and validated at every turn and every period. At every time they open up the book, they see various images of whiteness. They don't see a single story of whiteness. They see variety. They see diversity. And also what they see are deceptions and lies of what whiteness really represents. So for example, white students see their humanity and white dominant culture reflected in curriculum that promote their skills and individuality, especially in schools and districts where students of color are either not present or minimally visible. So I will argue that in schools that are not diverse, those students are at a greater disadvantage in that those teachers teaching in those environments are at a deficit. And the deficit is them. Teaching and learning have traditionally used the white gaze as the primary metric for evaluating and choosing literature and curriculum content and also defining what success looks like, what academic success looks like. And it's often very linear. By the white gaze, I mean the assumption that the default reader or reviewer is coming from a perspective of someone who identifies as white and hence capable of claiming neutrality and objectivity. White people's objectivity is rarely questioned or examined in educational contexts. As a black person, when I speak, I often have to end with the notion, this is for everybody. This is good for everyone, right? Because again, it's about taking care of whiteness in these spaces because we know that academic spaces are reserved for white people. So our default is whiteness.  One in particular is Toni Morrison. And now we hear conversations about her book, The Blue Eyes Been Questioned Now, as we need to take this, we need to remove this from the curriculum. And I have to say that when I talked to Toni Morrison's The Blue Eyes, that was the spark that many of my students were able to identify and resonate with. But yet we're talking about, we're moving it. And the people that's talking about, we're moving it have no proximate connection or relationship with the communities that they want to remove it from. Very ironic. So Toni Morrison talked a lot about the white gaze and her writings and intentionally and successfully was able to de-emphasize and diminish this relevance.  And I think that's the key part is, in some curriculum, we see representations of BIPOC people shows up in our curriculum. But they're very simplistic. They're not complex. They don't exist in the real complexities that they really have. We simplify them. We oversimplify them. And we often highlight the ones that we want to really portray about what is a black woman. When we see a black woman, we put them in this particular box. Toni Morrison was excellent in terms of debunking that and decolonizing that in many ways. The next thing I would say is that teaching and learning have also traditionally reinforced pedagogies that perpetuate racist beliefs grounded in fixed mindsets about learning and achievement. So, for example, the language and ideology surrounding the achievement gap, we know it's flawed, misguided, and highly politicized. Yet, we still use problematic terms of an achievement gap to present academic data, particularly on black and brown kids in comparison to white kids. But we rarely speak about an achievement gap between Caucasian students and Asian students. So why is that? Gloria Latson Billings, who is the president of the National Academic Academy of Education and Professor of Emeritus at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, she's an author and also the creator of culturally relevant pedagogy from which culturally responsive teaching is derived from. So, Gloria Latson Billings is the first one to really start talking about culturally relevant teaching. But she totally debunked the notion of an achievement gap because she says that the achievement gap, how we talk about an achievement gap, constructs our black and brown students as defective and lacking. So, she offered instead a discourse that will hold all of us accountable. And that discourse she uses is called education debt. So, the education debt. So, according to Latson Billings, she would say that we do not have an achievement gap in this country. We have an education debt. And the education debt was constructed. And she identified four other scenarios or debts to really form what we call now the education debt. First is the historical debt that she refers to. And that's really about the construction of whiteness. There were no, white people didn't exist before the 1680s, right? And so after Bacon's rebellion is where the whole construction of whiteness and how do we create or how do we construct whiteness in a way that puts white people at the top and how we create a racial cast for hierarchy system. If we have someone at the top, we have to create a bottom. And that's where we got the anti-blackness and then all other groups in between that continuum or that spectrum. And so that's part of the historical debt which has been in place for centuries in this country. So that's the historical debt. Then she talked about the economic debt, which I referenced earlier in terms of that study that came out of Boston. And that was really about a wealth gap, not an income gap, but a wealth gap. And that this wealth gap was created. It was constructed and exacerbated. And it still is in that situation today. And then there's a social political debt, which reinforces narratives about white supremacy and anti-blackness. And then finally, we are at a moral debt. And the moral debt, I would say that in that sort of getting at the country's conscious, like where is the moral conscience of our country? And I would say that recently, three things or three events took place to really shock white people about this moral conscience. One is COVID, right? And particularly the devastation that COVID came into our communities and what it costs. And it forced us to see great gross disparities. The second major event was the public lynching of George Floyd. And I think that when we saw that nine minutes, it wasn't a noose, it was a knee on the neck for nine minutes.  And then the third event was the January 6th insurrection. So those three events, I will argue, sort of help us to really look at where are we? And how do we begin to talk about this in a meaningful way? So COVID has given us an opportunity, what I often refer to as an equity pause, is giving us a moment to really re-center. How do we reimagine how we teach, how we learn? So here's some of the solutions that I like to propose before we end. So I think that one is that we have to change narratives that reinforce white supremacy thinking and learning and development, and de-center our whiteness in teaching and learning. And I know that that's hard to do as white people when you don't have proximity because whiteness has been the default in our classrooms. And until we face the whitening of instruction, it would be nearly impossible to decolonize our educational policies and practices. We need high quality professional development to push our thinking and challenge us to have a critical consciousness about the liberatory role that educators can have in promoting justice in the face of institutional racism and white supremacy culture. You know, there was this study that came out a few years ago, and it talked about the impact of having a black teacher during elementary grades, particularly in third and fourth grade. And that research was drawing on research that came out over 100 years ago from Carnegie Wilson. And that research was really saying that if we have a black teacher, or if you have a black teacher by third grade, that increases your chances of academic achievement and graduating from high school and rolling into college by 13%. And by fourth grade, if you have a second black teacher, that increases it to over 30%. And that's what the research is telling us, right? And the powerful part about that research is that that research wasn't just referring to black students having black teachers.  I think about my own development and my own growth. I was born and raised in Detroit, Michigan. And Detroit, I love Detroit when I was 10 years old. My mother died of breast cancer when I was 10. But prior to her passing, I had prototypes of black excellence. I had it from her, and I had it from relatives and the family. But I also went to the Paul Robeson Elementary School in Detroit.  But one teacher, third grade teacher, Ms. Elmore, she taught us the song and the lyrics of the song called The Greatest Love of All. And some of you may know that song because Whitney Houston made it very famous and popular and so forth. But it was first recorded by George Benson, right? And she, I remember going to class and I used to hate having to learn the lyrics to that song. And she said that every student here needs to understand the meaning behind the song. It's not the melody, it's the meaning behind it. And really what I learned from that song, and I find myself telling that to my nephews whom I raised, the greatest love of all is really finding oneself, finding yourself. And as we go into schools that are colonized, school spaces, everything is conspiring to take that love from us. And so it's really the fugitive pedagogies that we mean. You know, when we think about enslavement days of enslavement, there were people, there were Black people who resisted their captivity. They resisted slavery at all costs, even if it meant die. They resisted slavery in order to become educated, in order to escape, in order to provide better opportunities. There were countless examples of that. We need to be telling those stories. And Carter G. Wilson actually documented it. This is a new book called Fugitive Pedagogy, and it actually documents the history of that. We need to be teaching that. We need to be bringing that into our classrooms. Because our students, because that would actually restore the hope. And as I said earlier, you can't get to justice without hope. You know, in terms of change, it's the younger generation. It's the students that's going to lead the movement. And so we need to be teaching. I was talking about the libertarian role of educators. For Black people, we know that it's not enough just to learn the word. We have to learn the world at the same time, right? And so there's this sense of urgency. There's this sense of liberation, right? Because while we're reading the word, we're also reading the world at the same time. And that those worldly skills are going to give us the navigational tools to be able to navigate a racist society, a patriarchal society that is critical to our survival. And I would say that many of us say that, you know, we came into education because we really want to give back to our communities. That's great. That's nice. But the older I get, the more I realize it's deeper than that. And that I realize that I'm broken. And I realize that I've been broken by racism and the level of trauma and broke people are able to be empathetic with other broke people. And I'm connecting with these young people through my brokenness. I'm not connecting with young people through my privilege sides. My privilege sides are keeping me away, but it's the broken part of me that gets it. And our students are keen in terms of understanding that and recognizing that. So a few things I want to say. One is about the diversity. We have to be so we must focus on diversifying our education workforce and retention efforts to grow and sustain learning for justice in our schools. Schools are microcosms of society at large and equities we experience in society feel magnified in the classroom. We're all in this together. We need to ensure that curriculum materials and teaching strategies support students to see windows into others cultural experiences as well as mirrors of their own experiences reflected in the curriculum. Effective teaching and learning has a balance of both windows and mirrors. Our students need both especially white students. White students don't they have a distorted sense of the mirrors that they're looking at. How do we change that? We start to decolonize it. We start telling the other parts of the stories. We start getting truthful and honest in how we talk about our history. We start teaching history at a different we change the origin to where we teach it. I really support the 1619 project but I feel that the starting point needs to even go before that. Right and I think that the starting point really means to really speak to black people, African people before colonization. White students have always had mirrors of their own experiences reflected in the curriculum but these mirrors are deceptive inaccurate and incomplete reflections of the full range of white people as racialized people too. White people often don't realize that they are a construction of race. White people are not neutral or raceless. These mirrors position white people in a cast of characters and experiences that validate their identities making only them visible where it matters and reinforcing white dominant or white supremacist culture. Just a few more I see I'm almost out of time so I can take a few more minutes and then I close up. The reality is that white students are deficient in having windows into others cultural experiences. Their windows perpetuate stereotypical single story narratives of other cultural experiences that promote a form of narcissistic tendencies while reinforcing their racial illiteracy. So I asked the question why are we okay with white people being racially illiterate? Who does that serve? We have to meet students where they are and teach to the whole child. We need to prioritize the social emotional needs and well-being of children and address widespread trauma resulting from the pandemic of COVID as well as the pandemic of institutional racism. Both of which have devastating outcomes for our children and our adolescents. Just having black skin as a pandemic in America that leads to all kinds of culpabilities for us. Being diagnosed with a disability when our race is our disability. Navigating schools with the label of disability is a pipeline to school to prison for most black and brown boys in particular. So our black skin makes us targets for all types of abuse whether sexual, physical, racial terror, curriculum violence, police violence, gun violence, living in communities that are highly impoverished or self-inflicted. All of these are traumas that students are coming into the classrooms and they are dying to talk about. They're dying to have a release and writing gives a release. And so if you're looking for something to write about this is stuff that we get, writing can be cathartic in that sense. It can provide that release. So as I close I want to say that one last thing I want to say is about schools and how we shape learning environments that can be either hostile or welcoming. And that not assuming that students are coming to school because they're getting the nurture whether they want this environment where they are often protected in their homes or in their schools. And when they come into schools they are actually getting the hostile environment. So not assuming that just because the students are coming to school this is a nurturing environment. I thank you so much for listening and I appreciate I'm sorry I ran out of time but I got passionate a little bit. Thank you so much. Thank you Darnell. That was a challenging and thought-provoking and clearly very passionate talk and we really appreciate your your ideas and you give us a lot to think about.


Twelve years ago, America was struck by changes in the public education landscape, brought about by the disaggregation of student data through no child left behind. We began to more fully understand the differences in student outcomes across racial, ethnic, and socioeconomic groups. The NEA Foundation found itself at a crossroads. Across the country, many sought to close achievement gaps with a top-down strategy. But that's not the world we believed in. We believe that positive change occurs when everyone plays a role, when educators are the agents of change, not just objects of it. We believe that communities have the knowledge they need to improve student learning and public education. With that in mind, the NEA Foundation launched the Closing the Achievement Gaps Initiative in 2004, fostering deep collaborative partnerships among local education unions, school districts, and community organizations. We invested more than 13.7 million dollars across seven sites, supporting reform that is for the community and by the community. So 12 years ago, when the NEA Foundation began this journey of creating a new initiative called Closing the Achievement Gap, it was simply a theory on paper. And over the last 12 years, we have found partners across this country deeply committed to creating the kind of changes needed for students to succeed. They've thrown their heart, their soul, their mind into this endeavor. The achievement gap is that space between those who are going to be able to make it in society and those that are going to fall by the wayside. Our children, because of the challenges that they face and because of our lack of resources, don't have the same opportunities of children in wealthier communities. It affects our economy, it affects our democracy, it affects communities, it affects individuals. So when one child isn't educated, the repercussions are much beyond their household, their community. We're all affected. The initiative is something that I think we can all truly be proud of. It came together with a collection of people at the bargaining table and it came together with our local teachers union and district and principals all working together and thinking about what would it look like if we put kids in the middle. All of the players are sitting at the table, our school system and paraeducator and office professionals, our principals, our city. You see superintendents, you see school districts inviting parents and community in asking them what are their wants and needs and also asking how can we work together to really benefit all of our children. One of the things that business community and why I'm involved in this is because they have a stake in the outcomes of what's going on in our school district. There are future leaders, there are future decision makers, they're the future employees and employers so we want to make sure that they have every opportunity to succeed. Under our theory of change, there were three key partners. There was the school district, there was the local association or union and there was the community and the idea was to align resources and efforts to support students around really pressing issues. Home visits is a fantastic way to connect with families and the bonds that are built extend throughout the school year and throughout the whole educational process. Educators realize that these parents wanted the same thing for their children that they want for theirs, that they're not that much different. When the teachers come back to the classroom, they now know the whole picture where the child's coming from and that changes and builds their relationship. Kids' behaviors were better, their academics were better, we just feel like a better educator because you have that connection with the student and their family. By the end of the grant, we had trained over 2,000 teachers within that five years and had impacted literally thousands of students. Our suspensions are way down, our arrests are way down, attendance is way up, truancy is down so all of our indicators, the climate culture indicators as well as the academic achievement indicators are moving in the right direction through our focus on the plan. Our funding has actually expired a few years ago but all of our initiatives remain and it's embedded in who we are and what we believe and how we work with our kids. It's now our job to figure out how to take that to the next level. The initiative that was started by our receiving the NEA Foundation grant has planted seeds throughout this country, I'd like to see them grow. As we come to a closing point in this work, we're deeply, and I mean deeply appreciative for everyone's commitment to this endeavor, we could never have imagined doing this work without the support of community members and parents and school districts, both superintendents and principals, but more than anybody other than the students, the teachers are who we have invested our greatest amount of time in and they've given us our greatest rewards. They are our heroes and we thank you.


fundamental principles of freedom, rational self-interest, and individual rights. This is the Iran Book Show. All right everybody, welcome to Iran Book Show on this Tuesday, October 10th. I hope you're having as good of a week as possible given what's going on in the world. Sorry, but I'm still in a state of shock. All right, today I'll continue our updates on what is going on in Israel. We'll talk quite a bit about the response all over the world, including here in the United States. We'll talk some more about Harvard University's response this time from the administration. And then we'll see if we have time. We'll talk about a few other things as well. The horror of what happened on Saturday and into Sunday continues stories. Yesterday we basically heard about the music festival and the rape and slaughter and torture and just barbaric animalistic behavior of Hamas in this music festival targeted at primarily young women, teenagers, but men, women, teens, early 20s, young people having a good time, trying to have a good time and having it destroyed in a flash in the most barbaric fashion. Well, today we're getting stories out of Israel that make this seem even more about, you know, that make that seem nothing is compared in comparison. I mean, I don't know if you've heard the stories, but it turns out that there's one kibbutz which was basically overwhelmed by the terrorists. They basically slaughtered everybody in the kibbutz. Well, one of what everybody constitutes, part of what everybody constitutes is a nursery. I mean, this is so hard to talk about. A nursery with, you know, 40 babies in it, young children and babies. Some of these young children and babies were decapitated. They were all slaughtered.  I can't imagine the people who discovered this afterwards. I just can't imagine the horror. I mean, just, I don't want to imagine it. I try to blank it out of my mind. But this is really the image that needs to be in the forefront of our minds as Israel pursues justice in the days to come. It should be the image that Israeli soldiers take in with them. This is what is done to their children. This is the kind of hatred, viciousness, barbarism, primitivism that Hamas manifested in what they did. Killing is always horrific. Killing anybody horrific.  It's just hard to comprehend. It's hard to hold. It's hard to stay composed with all this. So it really, it is unbelievable to be painful. It's unbelievable to be painful when it happens anywhere in the world.  Anyway, you know, and it places, it makes it so much more horrific. The libertarians, the others, the left, and their moral relativism, their moral equivocation, their moral equivalence between Hamas and Israel, basically libertarians are part of the tribal barbarians out there. This is it from my perspective. Anybody affiliated with that wing of the libertarian movement party have always thought of them, or not thought of them pretty low. This is it from my perspective. They are beneath contempt. One should have nothing, zero zilch to do with them other than to condemn them. You know, they are now the allies of baby killers. If they can't see that as something deserving of condemnation, if they can't see that as something to horror, if any sentence where they condemn that includes a sentence where they condemn Israel for something, then they are immoral bastards that you should have nothing to do with them. If any of you belong still registered to the libertarian party, now is a great time to leave that party in disgust and let them know why you are leaving it. People like Dave Smith and his co-art, you know what's called, I shudder to think what Mises would think of this, but they dare to call themselves the Mises Caucus. I mean, imagine what Mises would think of that. Mises, somebody who had a flea Europe because of the Nazis, Mises who was never an anarchist, Mises who was a decent human being and understood what evil meant and understood the existence of evil. The fact that they call themselves the Mises Caucus is one of the most disgraceful things out there. Anyway, you know, that is out there. I'll just mention that Harvard University, I told you yesterday, that what is it, 31 organizations, Harvard organizations put out a statement blaming Israel for everything, for everything that happened to those babies. Israel is responsible, not the people who actually slaughtered them, beheaded them. It's Israel that's responsible for this, not the animals who did this. It is unbelievable that Harvard students signed on to this. I know that some people are asking for the list of literally all the members of these organizations to be distributed so that nobody ever hires them coming out of Harvard so that they pay for this for a long, long time. We'll see if that happens, but that would be a good thing to happen. But then the administration of Harvard came out with a merely-mouthed, non-committal, you know, it's horrible what's happened, but kind of moral equivalence. This is the Harvard administration.  I want to read you what Larry Summers wrote before Harvard published their statement. And Larry Summers, here is one of the good guys in this context in terms of what Larry Summers used to be years ago. The president of Harvard, he had a resign because, you know, he said something politically correct. He writes, nearly 50 years of Harvard affiliation have never been as disillusioned and alienated as I am today. The silence from Harvard's leadership so far, coupled with a vocal and widely reported student groups statement blaming Israel solely, has allowed Harvard to appear at best neutral towards active terror against the Jewish state of Israel. Unlike President Bacow's strong statement, this is a strong statement in support of Ukraine after Putin's invasion, and the decision to fly the Ukrainian flag over Harvard Yard, or Dean Gay's powerful statement on police violence after the Rodney King, right? We have as yet 48 hours later no official Harvard statement at this time of moral testing. Instead, Harvard is being defined by the morally unconscionable statement, a parody coming from two dozen student groups blaming all the violence on Israel. I am sickened. I cannot fathom the administration's failure to disassociate the university and condemn this statement. I very much hope appropriate statements from the university and college condemning those who launch terrorist attacks and standing in solidarity with its victim will soon be forthcoming. To be clear, nothing is wrong with criticizing Israeli policy past, present, or future. I've been sharply criticized by the Prime Minister Netanyahu, but that is very different from a lack of clarity regarding terrorism. Now, Summers didn't even need to say that, but anyway, then Larry Summers, after the Harvard statement came out, he said, he says, the delayed Harvard leadership statement fails to meet the needs of the moment. Why can't we find anything approaching the moral clarity of Harvard's statement after George Floyd's death or Russia's invasion of Ukraine when terrorists kill, rape, and take hostage hundreds of Israelis attending a music festival? Why can't we care for reassurance that the university stands squarely against Hamas terror to frighten students when 35 groups of their fellow students appear to be blaming all the violence on Israel? So, good for Larry Summers for standing up against the Harvard administration. I mean, it is sickening that the top university in the United States, by many measures, the number one school in the U.S., cannot bring itself to condemning, unequivocally condemning the evil of what Hamas has done. I mean, this is, of course, the culmination of now decades of moral relativism, decades of this, you know, the worship of victimhood and, of course, the Palestinians are still perceived as the victims. This is after, you know, decades of guavelling to the left at Harvard and internationally. This is the manifestation of all of that and it's good that there are voices like Larry Summers. It would be even better if people like Larry Summers really thought through how we got to this place, really thought through what he and others at Harvard have done to the institution, to the way, to academia more broadly, to the way people think about issues, to the way people think about morality, to bring us to this state. How did we get to a position where 33 student organizations at Harvard can make such a statement? How did we get to a position where Harvard and the University's administration cannot condemn unequivocally an act of brutal terrorism like we just saw? How did we get to the point where people are so morally coward and so morally ambiguous that this is the state of the world? There is a lot of reckoning that's going to happen. I often have told businessmen they want to do anything to save America, stop giving money to your alma mater. If any of you give money to Harvard University, if any of you of the alma mater of Harvard University, I'm asking you in the name of justice, in the name of all of our sanity, in the name of the future of this country, stop giving them money and ideally let them know why because they'd be taken over by a leftist, nutty segment of intellectuals who cannot even stand up in the face of the most brutal, obvious, perceptually obvious evil out there in the world. So stand up against this.  Question whether you should be hiding people from Harvard, particularly if they were members in one of these organizations.  There has to be more consequences to these stands. That's why I say leave the Libertarian Party, condemn your Libertarian so-called friends, go out there on Twitter and call them on this. There's too much silence by the good guys. Don't let them get away with it. You should be morally outraged by what is going out there. And I know it's far away, it's in Israel, it doesn't affect your day-to-day life. I know it's hard to keep it up, but this is one of those cases. There are not that many where something happening outside the United States deserves your attention, deserves your moral outrage, and deserves your activism. Activism, this is a time to get active. This is a time to make your views heard. This is a time to stand up against the evil of people who we often associate with and let them know how bad they are, how little you regard them. You don't have to say much, you don't have to argue. Just call them on the BS. Just call them on the evil. Just let them know that it's not just me and a half-dozen other people standing up against them, but there are hundreds, maybe thousands of you out there that are disgusted by what they stand for. Call them on it. Anyway, my call to action. I don't often call you to action, but my call to action. Get on the side of Tea Freedom and go out there. I've mentioned a few other good people on Twitter who've done, Steven Pink has made some great comments. David Deutsch has been excellent on this, really excellent. I mean, again, we have certain disagreements and epistemology and other areas, but on his moral clarity has been excellent and his condemnation of those who make moral equivalence has been excellent.  All right, in terms of what's going on on the ground, Israel continues to bomb Hamas constantly. It's been bombing. You know, there was a lull during the night, most of the day today it's been bombing Hamas in Gaza. It doesn't seem to have had much effect and this is, you can only do so much from the air unless you're literally willing to carpet bomb the whole place and Israel will not do that. Hamas has been sending rockets into Israel in still large numbers. You'd expect Israel to have already destroyed Hamas' capability of doing this, but these missile launches are still small. They have so many of these missiles. Honestly, Israel still has a huge intelligence gap in terms of where they're keeping all these missiles. But also remember, they keep the missiles in heavily populated residential areas so that Israel hesitates to bomb. So they'd rather not bomb a Gaza residential area, what they'd rather let these bastards launch missiles into Israeli residential areas. If there's ever a sign of altruism and self-sacrifice, it is this. I mean, we care more about the civilians in Gaza than we care about the civilians in Israel. Again, Israel should be ruthlessly bombing any target no matter where it is. So for example, Hamas was mocking Israel today. It literally sent out an announcement saying we encourage the citizens of, excuse me, of Ashkelon, the city closest to the Gaza Strip on the Israeli coast, to evacuate because at five o'clock we're going to launch an attack on Ashkelon mimicking the Israelis telling people in the Gaza Strip to evacuate because they're going to bomb. And indeed, at five o'clock they launched this huge barrage of missiles into Ashkelon. I mean, that is mocking the Israelis. And the fact that Israel lets that happen, the fact that Hamas has still three days into this, has the capabilities of doing that, is truly driving me crazy. It's driving me nuts. I know the capabilities of Israeli intelligence when they are focused, and believe me, over the last three days they are focused. I know the capability of the Israeli armed forces when they are dedicated to pursuing a mission, I don't understand the delay. And I don't understand the hesitancy. I know they are very concerned about the world and how the world views them and they're very concerned about, you know, bombing somewhere and some Palestinian children getting killed and then the moral equivalency all over again. But God, they need to stop that. They need to clear the difference. I mean Netanyahu, wherever in Israel, needs to get up, stand up, and declare that yes, civilians, including innocent civilians, i.e. children, are going to die in Gaza and that their blood is on the hands of Hamas. Every drop of blood is on the hands of Hamas. Israel did not start this. Israel did not initiate it.  Somebody needs to frigging say this. On the Israeli side, this is the Arabs, this is the Palestinians, this is on Hamas. The blood is there, it is on them, and the blood will be shed and we don't apologize for it and get used to it because the next few days are going to be frigging bloody. And they won't say it. They will not say it. But I say it for them.  So, it is unbelievably frustrating to me that they have not, maybe tomorrow the ground offensive will start. Who knows when the ground offensive will start. And I know it's going to be brutal. I know it's going to be hard. I know a lot of Israelis are going to die in this. What is the option? What is the choice? And then, add to that, there still has been nothing on the northern front. Hezbollah has given them three days to prepare, three days to build up, to call up their own reserves, to build up their arsenals, to move weapons in from Syria. Who knows what they're doing. Again, Israeli intelligence must be on top of this. The fact that Israel is not bombing Syria and Iranian bases in Syria, the fact that Israel is not bombing the routes between Syria and Lebanon, which are going to continue to supply rockets to the Hezbollah, the fact that Israel is not, maybe the special forces deployed in southern Lebanon. I certainly hope so. I expect so. But the fact that Israel has not started the systematic destruction of Hezbollah's infrastructure in the south. Again, maybe they need the time to build up the forces, to bring the tanks to the north, to bring the soldiers up to speed, to gather the intelligence. Maybe that is what they intend to do. But instead of waiting for Hezbollah to launch a second front in the north, Israel should launch a second front in the north. Again, they should announce now give the southern Lebanese 24 hours to evacuate and then rain hell, rain hell and whoever is left in southern Lebanon.  It's hopeless. It's hopeless. And in that sense, it is, it is unbelievable. I've said this in the past, I think, but people ask me, somebody asked me a long time ago, Yaron was the most frustrating thing about what you do. And this is going to sound arrogant, and it is, but the most frustrating thing about what I do in life is that I know what needs to be done. I know what justice demands, which is, by the way, Ilan Juno's book, name a book, but I also know what will solve the problems, what will bring peace to the world, what will actually lead to human flourishing and prosperity. I know what needs to be done and nobody's listening. Nobody's listening and it's super frustrating to watch people do the exact opposite while the world burns. And, you know, US has brought its most powerful aircraft carrier into the eastern Mediterranean. This is the aircraft carrier Ford, which is the new generation, the only new generation aircraft carrier to the size of three-foot wall fields, two nuclear power plants, drive it. It is, you know, an unbelievable fortress with unbelievable firepower. My assumption is that that is brought into the eastern Mediterranean, not for America to take on Hezbollah or Hamas, but it is being brought into the eastern Mediterranean. Eastern Mediterranean means closer to the Israeli shore. Basically, there's a warning to the Russians not to intervene, not to enter, and there's a warning to Iran not to participate. Now, I know right now I guess I'm competing with President Biden who's finally decided to make some comments to the American people about what is going on in Israel. It sounds like he will express unequivocal American support to the Israelis and call the horror of what the Palestinians have done for what it is. It's playing in the background, but the reality is that it can't really... So he's going through the horrors The fundamental question is going to be is this going to change anything about long-term US policy regarding the Middle East? Is this a real sea change? Are we going to go after Iran properly? Are we going to make sure that something like this can never happen again? Are we going to initiate the process which should have started 9-11, should have started even before that, is mantling Islamist terrorist organizations all over the Middle East including the Islamist regime in Iran? He's not holding BB back behind the scenes. BB is holding BB back behind the scenes. God, you guys are so clueless about how this works and about what is going on and about BB. Remain delusional about BB Netanyahu and his pretend toughness. Nothing is held back BB except BB. And that is true for 15 years since he came to be Prime Minister. Let's see... Yeah, alright So Biden will talk about all this. We'll see if he sneaks in something about pro-war Palestinian into the speech as well. We'll see about that. Which reminds me European Union officially on Saturday or Sunday announced that they were stopping all financial support to the Palestinians. Yesterday renewed their financial support to the Palestinians. So again blood on the hands of the European Union, blood on the hands of the Biden administration that's been supporting the Palestinians blood on the hands of anybody who's provided the Palestinians with financial support as they reject peace, reject any kind of settlement, reject Israel as a political entity, as a viable political entity. It is blood on them. Blood on them. Alright Let's see So now he's talking about duty to respond to the vicious attacks. We'll see what he says. Where's the but if there's going to be a but? Let's see Harvard University Yeah, just We'll have law There's no will of law when dealing with terrorism. Alright, quickly. I want to mention that the Iran Book Show is sponsored by the Ein-Ren Institute. It's part of that sponsorship. We have set up a website Ein-Ren.org where you can get resources for the Ein-Ren Institute on applying Ein-Ren's ideas to pretty much anything, but particularly to this development. If you go there on that page, ARI is on Kogate and Ilan Juno, responding to Hamas' war on Israel. Gaten Juno discussed how to apply Ein-Ren's ideas to this situation in a live podcast on Saturday. They'll do so again on Wednesday, that is tomorrow on the New Ideal Podcast and ARI's YouTube channel at 9 a.m. Pacific Time, 12 p.m. Eastern Times. I encourage you to listen. They will have commentary post Biden commentary. You can get all that, all that resources and a bunch of other stuff on Ein-Ren.org Start Here, which is basically a website, a page that was created for Iran Book Show followers to be able to interact with what the Ein-Ren Institute is producing and creating. I hope you have the time to go there and experience some of the content. I don't know, it's hard for me to take on topics that are not related directly to what is going on but let me do one quickly. Let me do one quickly and then I'll go to your questions. A study just came out from Penn Wharton University and it has a model of the U.S. budget. They've got a sophisticated model of the U.S. budget where they predicting U.S. federal debt and how long before what they call it becomes unsustainable, that is before the U.S. government either has to default on its debt or has to massively inflate, which would have to do either one of them. Today public debt outstanding is a 33.2 trillion and includes 6.8 trillion that the federal government owns itself. This is trust fund money so security and so on and all kinds of other accounting issues. So they hold the actual debt held by the public is a 26.3 trillion, so they're using that estimate. The estimate that U.S. debt cannot exceed about 100% of GDP even with relatively still lower interest rates because that will ultimately lead to either again default or hyperinflation. Under the current policy the United States has about 20 years for corrective action after which no amount of future tax increase or spending cuts could avoid the government defaulting on its debt whether explicitly or implicitly implicitly means monetizing the debt creating significant inflation. Unlike technical defaults where payments are merely delayed this default would be much larger and we will reverberate across the entire global economy. The time frame according to them is the best case scenario for the United States. This is under incredibly favorable market conditions. They're basically saying that the United States has 20 years to deal with the debt before it goes into in a sense a debt spiral where there's just no way for it to deal with it without defaulting. Just in case you were getting optimistic about the United States I thought I'd share that study. It's something we on the Iran Book Show are going to be following in the next few months, years. The extent to which a political class left or right is even willing to consider dealing with this. They have showed zero interest so far in dealing with it. I mean literally zero. Particularly when they actually have where they actually have power. Alright, we will take I'll take some questions now. Feel free to jump in with more questions or with support with a sticker or however you want to show support for the Iran Book Show. 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We've also seen a significant uptake over the last couple of days in subscribers that really makes me feel good it makes me feel like the things that I'm saying as harsh and as controversial as they are actually attracting people to the show actually seeing positive response from people out there so subscriptions are up which is a good thing I'm sure I'm losing some libertarians but many more people are adding as some of these libertarian creeps leave as subscribers and good riddance leave as subscribers to the show Yeah let me just point out if you like the show like past shows like shows that you're listening to even if it's not live please like the show as you go forward and that raises the show in the algorithms that help us get to a wider audience I think particularly this message about Israel about America's role about what Israel should be doing needs to be needs to get a wide audience the kind of moral clarity that I think I'm almost the only one out there that he's expressing needs to get a large audience please consider sharing please consider liking the shows as we move forward oh I did want to mention this God it's hard to mention I don't know if you've seen but we talked about yesterday and they were for all the demonstrations and cities around the world and the New York City and the pro-Palestinian I mean dramatic big demonstrations hundreds of people there was one in Sydney, Australia from Australia there was one in Sydney, Australia yesterday and do you know what they were they were chanting I mean the chant of the audience hundreds of people in Sydney, Australia we're not talking about Pakistan we're not talking about Saudi Arabia we're not talking about Iran in Sydney, Australia the chant was gas the Jews gas the Jews forget about you know then pretending not to be anti-Semites forget about this being some caring about the Palestinians or something like this this is now naked this is naked anti-Semitism gas the Jews was the slogan the hell with babies being decapitated and killed and slaughtered people in Australia primarily Arabs in Australia I'm curious if those of you who are in Sydney, Australia know more about this chanting gas the Jews this is why you know this is why Israel is a unique state this is why Israel needs to exist not because in an ideal world Israel should not exist not as a Jewish state a religious centric state but in a world in which even after the Holocaust even after everybody who knows what happened even after everything that's happened in the history and even as the West is being quote civilized in a Western country people are going out there talking about gassing the Jews and then you have leftist and libertarians who are just you know some bad on that side and the bad on this side and so on the Jews better have some way to run to when things get really ugly because don't rule out as civilization descends you know one thing that the one group that is going to be blamed for everything the one group that people are going to go out there trying to get other Jews whether you count yourself as a Jew whether you consider yourself as a Jew whether you're completely secularized and completely assimilated or not they're coming after you they're coming after you Israel needs to be there as an escape as a place to escape to unbelievable unbelievable brief why is everyone in the government so afraid of Iran this timidity has led to 30 years of free reign for the terrorists in any mention of retaliation against Iran it I don't know I mean this has been the case since 1979 when Jimmy Carter failed to act to free American hostages in Iran this has been the case where even when I told Khomeini threatened American publishers and Americans for publishing Salman Rushdie's book George Bush refrained from criticizing Iran and really going after them this has been the case after 9-11 where they refused to blame Iran for everything yeah I was part of the axis of evil and then ignored this is the case since 9-11 of not being willing to take them on yes Trump killed one Iranian general whoopoo instead of going after the regime and crushing them I don't know if Biden mentioned Iran or not in his statement today I haven't heard Israeli Prime Minister mention Iran yet but it is time to take on the Iranians it is time to end the Iranian regime this will help Iranian women it will free them it will liberate them it will liberate the Iranian people but it is time to destroy the Iran's capacity to inflict pain on anybody one way to destroy the Iranian economy right now is to bomb into oblivion the oil fields of Iran income goes to zero bomb into oblivion every military facility in Iran and you know I would bomb into oblivion the city where they you know where all they are toolers but in anything of the regime but nobody is going to do that nobody is going to do that Israel should do it and the United States should have it's back now it's now or never I mean when is Israel going to attack Iran's nuclear facilities if not now when America will probably let it get away with it but no American regime has allowed Israel to do it before this now again I've said there's a small window of time when the world's sympathy is on the side of Israel to already tilt it already most of the headlines about all the people killed in Gaza so now is the time to inflict maximum damage quickly ruthlessly on the Palestinians, on Hamas and then on the Iranians in a week, in a month they won't have the capacity to do it because the world will not let them the Biden administration will not let them you know anyway so yep alright Peter says there seems to be no extent of rape, pillage and murder that can shake leftists out of their vicious environmental determinism they simply do not take ideas seriously not even the most of virgines side or anti-Semitism it's not even that they don't take ideas seriously they don't take human life seriously and that's the key this standard and this is a point I think Alex Epstein makes so vividly and so real this standard is not human flourishing this standard, and to take it one step even below that, this standard is not human life they don't care about climate change because human beings are going to suffer they care about climate change because wombs are going to suffer they care about climate change because mother nature is unhappy they don't care about human beings that is the fundamental and I put right up there with the leftist and the environmentalism now I put the libertarians of the libertarian party the libertarians of the Dave Smith wing of the I'm not going to call them the Mises Caucus because they don't deserve that name so I'm not going to use that term but Dave Smith and the Mises well there we go I use Mises again Institutes that wing they are just as bad as the worst leftists and they should all rot in hell but yes the left does not care about human life they don't care about human life they care about some you know utopian agenda of egalitarianism and they care about offending mother nature those are the only things that they care about and to achieve that egalitarian heaven that egalitarian utopia that kill 40 babies and you have to decapitate it what did Lenin say you have to break a few eggs in order to make an omelet and if you don't get like shivers when these babies are mentioned I don't know what's wrong with you alright Francisco says Yvonne I hope you stay strong in these tough times remember many people support you and a positive force in the world keep fighting for justice I appreciate that Francisco don't worry I will stay strong you know these shows are good for me they're therapeutic they allow me to vent also seeing the support I'm getting on the shows just in terms of the money raised is good but just your participation the amount of views that the shows in Israel have gotten they're really record breaking in terms of live viewership we're now getting over 200 people watching live every one of these shows I mean it I am unbelievably appreciative of the fact that you guys care, care enough to listen care enough to support care enough to share it like care enough to go on twitter and do something about it just that you in a sense with me in this battle I wish it was thousands I wish it was millions but again it's always been the case that our struggle is one mind at a time we're going to grow slowly but we are growing I really it does mean a lot to me that subscriptions are going up it does mean a lot to me that issues like this bring people to this show and to this cause the cause of liberty, of freedom the cause of individualism the cause of reason and rationality and ultimately and I know that the cause of peace cannot be attained from a position of weakness peace cannot be attained by the good appeasing evil peace cannot be attained by the good laying down their weapons peace can only be attained through victory peace can only be attained by the good achieving the moral high ground sustaining the moral high ground and defending the moral high ground there's no way to achieve peace if the barbarians are allowed to get away with it all you get is barbarism and that's what the anarchists want that's what the anarchists want they want anarchy, which is barbarism they want death and destruction they, you know individuals defending themselves like in the good old medieval times those are the good old times so thank you, Francisco really appreciate it Sylvanas, words failed to convey how angry depressed I feel regarding the response I will keep having you on I will keep having you know unfortunately this is also all happening at a time where I'm traveling it's happening at a time where I'm off to do talks in Europe it makes it very difficult for me to do a media, we're trying to give me media in places like Israel but it's very difficult for me to get on media and to do media I am thinking we are thinking of doing a talk in London on the 18th after I do my public speaking seminar so if you are interested and would like to come let Razi know if you live in England, if you live in the UK and you would come to such a talk if you would come and support if we could get a large group in support of me giving a talk about the situation in Israel live in London you know next week on the 18th of October please drop Razi an email text or whatever let him know and I think we need to get him motivated and confident that people will show up that the event is worth doing I know Alexis is actually not going to be in London when I'm there next week Alexis says how does one do not how does one some type of here how does one do not fall into the point how does one not fall into what's the point line of thinking when faced with such horrifying behaviors I get the what's the point attitude I mean God it's tempting the point is this the point is your sanity forget about the world forget about convincing anybody forget about about them forget about anybody outside think of you your family your children the people you love the people you care about the least you can do in a situation like this when facing this kind of evil is to speak up for them for you and for them the point is not convincing anybody the point is your own moral outrage the point is to express you know the justice of your cause and stand up for good and just and right it's what your kids demand of you it's what the people you love demand of you I think it's you love your life and when your life is threatened by the barbarism of the world you gotta stand up and speak against the barbarism of the world so forget about who you're talking to forget about what impact it has on them that's not the point to express yourself the point is just and to know that there is a community this is a community here on the Iran Book Show there's a community at the Iran Institute there is a community out there of people who share your values who are as outraged as you or speaking up as you don't let the bad guys get to you I mean they have to get to you because we're all feeling what we're feeling but don't let them the point of forgetting how much you love your life and how much you love the people that you love and how much you care about those people that you love that's what should drive you that's what should motivate you thank you Tom, I appreciate the support I'll never forget that story about the dummy who hitched a ride from in the 1970's and I'm truly sorry for numerous religious comments Iran which you've made in abundantly clear you weren't part of I don't understand any of that what does that mean I'll never forget that story about that dummy who hitched a ride from in the 1970's yes and I'm truly sorry for the numerous religious comments Iran which you've made in abundantly clear you weren't part of I'm not sure about the religious comments I'm not sure what they relate to but yes I can't remember which particular hitchhiking story you're referring to but I've got a few of those hitchhiking stories from the 1970's in the American South they were not encouraging in terms of the state of America Cook says thank you for the daily video updates on what's going on I'd say I'm happy to do it I have to do it, what choice do I have Shay says what has happened is not necessarily what will happen let's hope hope is what we have I in America it reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns tells Yale to F-off we need more of that furthermore I'm of the opinion that Gaza must be destroyed yeah but it ain't going to happen Antonio thank you for your clarity and speaking the truth I appreciate that Antonio Frank how does flattening Gaza square with property rights some innocent people might own businesses and land being decimated do you apply here no it doesn't apply here Israel is not responsible for respecting or protecting the property rights of Palestinians that's responsibility of their own government and that's the sense in which whatever happens to Palestinians is the responsibility of the Palestinian authorities Hamas is the governing body of Gaza it's not a terrorist organization unrelated to the people of Gaza it is the governing authority this is why you should care who your government is they act on your behalf they represent you whether you like it or not whether you voted for them or not they are your representatives and when Israel is out to defend itself it doesn't have to do a questionnaire who voted for Hamas who didn't okay people who voted for Hamas we're going to shoot you all the people who didn't okay here we'll give you a safe that's ridiculous this is has nothing to do you know first of all in the dictatorship who has property rights what does property rights even mean but in the context of war property rights are null and void you know you are the victim of your own government if your government is launched and attack on an innocent third party that innocent third party has no responsibility towards you it has every responsibility to its own citizens to do whatever whatever is necessary to protect them and if bombing your land is required to protect them so be it and you know the Palestinian population can fix this right now today there could be an uprising in the Gaza Strip and the complete the elimination of Hamas from within and they can immediately vie for peace with Israel they can surrender so the Palestinians could surrender to Israel now they could kill Hamas they could destroy them all and they could surrender the fact that there's not even a squeak of that there's not even a hint of that tells you all you need to know about what's going on and the more responsibility they have Dan Wilson says Iran I despair humanity when you see the pro Hamas response the pathetic left wing BBC the BBC is the worst right now in UK refuses to call them terrorists militants they call them I appreciate that Dan and I understand the despair Brian gosh the truly tragic thing is that Israel could end this whole thing so relatively easy once and for all yes and they won't we know that Philip says I'm preparing a speech for my brother's wedding what advice would you give the couple for their shared future God I need to focus on what they can control to focus on their lives to focus on creating beauty and I mean don't bring war and horror into a beautiful celebration like a wedding focus only on the positive focus on what they can create the kind of world they can create for themselves the kind of the beauty they can surround themselves with the love that they bring into this relationship the future that they can create for themselves don't bring politics don't bring the state of the world into a speech in such a beautiful event as a wedding Apollo Zeus pro-Palestinian protesters attacking Jewish businesses in London and other cities God and are they being condemned for it? No Starve what do you make of the conspiracy theory about CIA plus Ukraine revolution instigated this war etc just another stupid conspiracy theory because because nobody wants to believe in evil and everybody wants to in the end blame the United States everything bad in the world happens because of the United States and Israel the strong the able the free the competent always blame for anything bad that happens in the world this is altruism and craziness and mysticism and the complete insanity and the conspiracy theory kind of insanity that's going on in the world I mean I don't know I don't know how to even deal with it but if you know anything about the Middle East you don't need a conspiracy theory to explain what's happening it's pretty obvious Cook says more like Namchomsky wing of libertarians yeah they love Namchomsky by the way they think Namchomsky is fantastic he's an anarchist, he hates the American government he blames everything bad in the world on libertarianism it's definitely the Chomsky wing of the libertarians I like that maybe that's what we should call them let's see Stav says we above heard this increasingly from Tim Pool, Patrick Bendavid and other great leaning people apparently he was provoke Putin I've talked about the Ukraine war I've talked about the nonsense about the U.S. provoking Putin I mean it's complete BS I've done whole shows about it you can find it in my YouTube stream now's not the time to get into that but it's yes Tim Pool, Patrick Bendavid the right has been completely captured by this notion that everything bad is ultimately you know the fault of of the good of the United States which is the good in this context can you explain how altruism leads to victimhood and condemned success yeah I mean altruism is the idea that your moral responsibility is to others and particularly to others who are suffering I mean the meek shall inherit the earth the fact that the poor a poor makes them makes them virtuous the racist view it is poverty, it is suffering human suffering that makes somebody virtuous and your responsibility in life your moral responsibility in life is to devote it to helping them to sacrifice for them to sacrifice towards the victim the suffering that is what altruism is that's what it means to extend that you help other people because you like it because you like them because you like it it's not considered moral altruism is the morality that venerates suffering venerates weakness venerates the victim that's what it is and to be successful it is obvious that one needs to think of oneself to be successful one needs to focus and put energy into pursuing some positive value for oneself well that's egoistic and that's immoral and therefore that must be condemned and trashed hallowed gray I learned moral clarity from you thank you, I learned the history of Gaza I now get how confused everyone around me is in making moral equivalence arguments I appreciate that, thank you for listening and for taking what I say seriously proposes it's hard to argue with people online because they have incorrect views on the history of Israel do you know any clips or sources that are playing in the history and the founding of Israel yes I mean there is an amazing book what Justice Demands that Ilan Jonah wrote on Israel and it has that history and it has all that if you look online look at courses and lectures that Ilan Jonah has done on Israel Nikos did a pretty good talk on Israel this last summer at Okan I have given courses and talks on Israel on the history of the Middle East on the history of Islamism I mean the amount of available content on YouTube is astounding I would start with Ilan's book I think that's the best and then there is just an amazing number quantity of content a lot of it that I and people affiliated with me have created over the years on the Israeli-Palestinian content me and Ilan and there is on the whole Middle East that you can access there is a history of the Middle East that I have done there is a history of Islamism that I have done and there is a rise and decline of the state of Israel a talk that I did that explains Israel's weakness and its source and content philosophy so I encourage you to all that information by the way is available free online on YouTube Ilan's book Costume Money but you can get it on Kindle right now downloaded so go do it you can find a brief history of the Middle East it's on YouTube I think you'll learn a huge amount based on input I've gotten for people who've listened to it just on that just by that and there is a ton of others and I will be doing a show I don't know exactly when in the next few days on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict from an historical perspective to give you that historical sense Tejikin I will never understand and caps the utopia couldn't even solve a divorce without a full-blown war they are just full-out evasion on rights absolutely well they don't care about rights rights are not important to them you saw that with my debate with the Brian Kaplan he doesn't want to address it there was secondary issues they're not what matters it frustrates me to see people on the new right make the moral equivalency between Israel and Palestine absolute moral it's pathetic absolutely and I've warned you about the new right forever the new right that some of you Scott in particular wants us to align with are the epitome of scumbags they are as bad if not worse than the left and we should stay as far away from them as possible and who says is occupation the technically correct concept for what Israel have been doing in Gaza well no I mean because it's not correct in any sense because Israel is not occupied Gaza Israel withdraw from Gaza Israel left Gaza to the Palestinians Israel created a Palestinian state in Gaza led by Hamas and this is the reward that it got for doing that this is the reward you get from doing stuff like that so this is this is what we get so yeah Scott's at it again we should engage with we should engage with the scumbags that see moral equivalence between what Israel does and the slaughtering of babies in their cribs we should engage in conversation with them yeah that's disgusting Scott just disgusting alright thank you everybody again thank you for the support both moral and financial and just by being here and participating in the in the you know on the chats and just by watching sharing liking please like the show before you leave it's very easy to do and it helps the algorithm a lot so whether you're watching live or after the fact like comment share the more you interact with the video the better will do with the algorithms I will I don't know I'll see you tomorrow tomorrow I've got meetings maybe in the evening maybe at night I will see you tomorrow I've got meetings all day but you know if not and then Thursday there'll be no show for Thursday there'll be no show Friday so I'll definitely see you on Saturday but maybe tomorrow evening I will do something but certainly on Saturday thank you all you know really big developments I will try to get on even if a few minutes I might be doing a very short video later today I might put up a very short video basically just just saying in like a two minutes what I think should be done kind of expressing my moral outrage and what I think should be done just a two minute video if I do that please use that video share that video put it up on every platform you can I mean as long as you agree with it it'll be a short, petty video with moral conviction about what Israel should be doing and as soon as I find the time this evening to do that I will put it up and I hope you guys will share it I will always also go live with it thank you all I will see you all in the next few days one way or the other bye everybody