Okay, hello everyone. Welcome to the Jenkins Infrastructure Weekly Team Meeting. Today we are the 14th of June 2022. So we have the attendees, myself, Damien Duportal, we have Hervé Le Meur, Marc Waite, Stephen Merle, and Bruno Berrarton. I always fail to remember your handle. What an idea. Our goods are in digital, whatever. I will do it by myself. First thing first, announcement. The weekly process went well this week. That means that all the work that Basile and the team did last week is reused. So, good thing. I assume that there is a checklist that should be run later today. Just before the meeting, I started the job on Trusted CI to build a controller image for this release. So, going well. Checklist took over. No error this week. Second announcement. We are currently facing since at least two days, an incident, major incident, on repo.jenkinci.org. This is the most important artifact or instance hosted by GFrog. It caused a different kind of issues. Contributors are having issues to download dependencies when trying to build plugins. There are jobs that are slowed down on CI. But also all the release jobs, security jobs, all the content building, everything that involved the call to repo. As always, we have contacted them maybe a bit late this time. Yesterday we decided it was just punctual. It wasn't blocked or it was usable. Today it isn't. So, we contacted them today as soon as we saw that it started to be reused. Thanks, Stefan, on RV for opening the status to communicating with the users about that. That's all on the announcement for me. Do you have other announcements, folks? Okay, so let's get started. A lot of work has been done during the past iteration. I will try to go as fast as possible with some usual, let's say, day-to-day maintenance tasks. Basile has been removed from some plugins that he doesn't maintain anymore. So thanks, Tim, for that. We were able to install the latest version of the Kubernetes plugin on CI Jenkins. Which features the fix for when suddenly you have to spawn a lot of pods at the same time. That was creating some locks and was slowing down or sometimes locking completely the cluster. That's one of the part of the big outage on CI Jenkins. We have corrected the root cause since then, but that one was amplifying the steps. So I hope that we'll consume less resources when we have a bomb built. So far, no more issues. So if you see anything on CI Jenkins, I always a lot of pods, agents that are in Word step locked or something. Don't hesitate to mention that ticket or reopen it. For the contributor, we did that. Thanks very much for the work on that and thanks, Vincent. HTTP permanent redirect, so that one seems to be solved. It involved different changes between the different provider, but as far as I know now it works as expected. Is that correct? That's correct as far as I know. I just added one more pull request this one to Jenkins to www.jankins.io that replaces Jenkins is the way that I owe with stories that Jenkins.io for each resolvable URL. That way the only remaining broken URLs are Jenkins is the way that I owe. I'm working with Alyssa Tong and Gavin Mogan to try to find the content that is missing that would would resolve those links. Some of the content was intentionally deleted. Some of the content may just be missing because we didn't get a copy so I've a work continue working with them I think that that ticket being closed is the correct thing. So many thanks Mark for managing that during the conference. Thanks Hervé for the work you put that and also thanks Tim and Alyssa for also the other tasks you did on that. Issue about last weekly, last week, weekly release that failed. We had to burn to numbers. So it's more an audit of the issues that we met to summarize. We did too much changes at a time. We removed absolutely GDK8 from the build of that weekly. And we also graded the image to Ubuntu 2204, which had a lot of side usages. The takeaway for the infra team is that part of the release build is done remotely on the machine pkg.jankins.io. You know that machine that also hosts the update center on AWS that we can't upgrade anywhere. The reason as explained by Olivier is because one of the two between Debian packages or Red Hat packages. In order to add new packages and update the index, it needs the file from the previous one, which means even if you have the tool create repo on a container that runs somewhere on release. You need a way to retrieve the gigabyte of files already present on production, have them accessible locally, run the hard on that one and then copy back these files. It's not that much a problem. We could have a caching file system on the release environment and rsync on one side and then rsync on the other side. But we have to do this in order to decouple the release process from that machine. So right now team removed the create repo tooling from the container since we don't need it. So no false expectation and we will add it back. But that means that for contributor you cannot build all the packages of Jenkins. If you are not with an access to that machine. Since the package build is a signed package, you already couldn't build a fully signed package right because the the signing the signing key is is deeply privileged we don't want to give that to anyone. Correct. By default, the release process as a dummy key GPG key that everyone can get access to, which allows to sign but it's not recognized by the usual certificate provider for the packages. What you cannot do is once you have generated a package updates a local history, you don't have all the tooling that we use for doing that even from scratch. What could we do about that. That means being able to either do it on as part of the release process. So there are solutions on that area team is aware of that but no action required for us for now, because we focus on moving update center out of that machine somewhere else and then we can start discussing the future of that machine. Do you have any other question about last week release. No, thank you very much to everyone who was involved in getting it done. Yep, that was a long long running process and everyone else, everyone I take it back there is one open question that Daniel Beck just raised I think it's related to the upcoming security release that will be 2.346.12.332.4. Yes, relative to have we switched from building with Java 8 to building with Java 11 and I think the answer there is yes, and does that affect or does that place a risk on the security release that he's trying to do. So for the security release that shouldn't in the sense that so Daniel coaxed that. So what happened is that after the weekly release. I worked on back porting the changes we did on the weekly branch to to pull requests on the release repository. There is one to the 2.332 line. And there is the twin sister to the to the next LTS that should happen in September. So it's okay for the other, as expected, because that is from the same weekly and if I'm correct the, not that line but the other line should be should drop Java 8 by default. 2.346. Yes, drop Java 8. It's not until the September release, which will probably be 2.6360 something. Okay, so we also have to roll back these changes. That one is tricky. Okay, can I ask you to open an issue on the release repository for me mark that topic. Yes, we'll do. So what happened is that for the current LTS line 2.332 that's Daniel is asking question about that line will be this will have a security updates dot two, I think. So for that for ready. Okay. And so, in order to have the security release we have to backport to roll back some changes we fixed the image to the latest that still contain both Chidek 8 and Chidek 11, which in turn, we need to add back that path because this is the default on that machine. So the pod, the pod that are starting that triggered the release. We need to specify the binary the Java binary used to start the agents because it must be Chidek 11 like on the controller, while Java 8 keeps the same default for And also I had to roll back the open SSL changes we did due to the Ubuntu 222 change which embed open SSL free while on that image it's still open SSL one or two whatever. So I assume I will have to do the same kind of rollback on the other LTS line. And we can ask a team, Alex and I to pay a beer to the others because the three of us validated my poll request, while it's children. No, thank you very much for that work you've done and we just want to be sure we that the security team understands as well. Thanks. Okay, so we've got more to do I'll create that issue. So we really rely on this issue to not forget this backwards then that clear for everyone. No question. Okay, thanks for very for dropping the dependency of MG. So now we use a fully fledged Docker machines everywhere, instead of MG. So no more maintaining that parts. Great job that wasn't the easiest one. Thanks, Stefan for working on bootstrapping a new Terraform project for the Oracle cloud maintenance. While I'm there. So we have now two child tasks, one which we'll see later. There is one that I want to take will that will import the existing resources mark we saw with Stefan that we have free machines we have archives. There is one with your name that I assume you are using for testing Jenkins on IRM and per system.  I suspect it's also a test machine that I use but I'll happily connect in and double check. Because do your mind stopping it and deleting it if it's not used anymore or at least stopping it to not consume credits, because with the update center that should migrate on that area who will start to be on an area where. Yeah, not too much machine at the same time I will say. Okay, yes. Unless you have a use case and in that case, I'm quite confident it's being used, but I'm happy to switch it off I use it. I believe I use it to check that we're portable to Oracle Linux, but that's a relatively low risk, low risk check that I can shift elsewhere. No problem, we can otherwise just open an help desk issue and we can start documenting the presence of this in machine we import it on the terraform and that will be part of the of the process. Okay. The precision warning in packaging pipeline. Don't remember at all. Oh yes, that's a minor change we did on the release but template. You can look at it that's really minor. I memory runners fail to come online so thanks Alex for opening that there were issue 10 days ago. And last week about the I memory virtual machines that are from a religion to see a Jenkins I you mostly use for a test harness of Jenkins core, usually and some bills. These machine were completely blocked unlocked. So team did a revert of a recent feature on the Azure VM plugins and also were able to fine tune the configuration of the plugin on all our instances. So that's the Azure machines are immediately throw away from the way once a build have used them. That was really the case for easy to, but not for Azure. So now they all have the same behavior and we haven't seen any more issues. The reason is because the feature that team had to roll back was for the case of when you have used the machine, you wait sometimes before stopping it, just in case and as a bill come and you, you will want to reuse it. Not only we don't want that. We want the machine recycled immediately we don't want to reuse ability. In that case, the bug was triggered when you were waiting a few minutes that was creating some blocks on the garbage collector of the machines. So thanks team for that and thanks Stefan for the for the help on that area. One issue has been closed has not done. I don't remember why the sign off on a web based commits. Or they can you remind. It was about recurring, recurring sign off commits. So commits done via the web UI could be automatically signed. But as Tim said, it can be activated. They are opposed to it. So as there is only one menu as the end chart. We didn't pursue this modification at your level. Okay. Makes sense. Thanks. No question. Okay. Last done tasks. The GSOC plugin is scoring system. So as part of the GSOC project, there is one of the project this year. That is monitoring. He was asking to create a repository expect upcoming resource request to create part of infrastructure to support that project in the future. Thanks for taking care of this one. Any question. Okay. Time to check the work in progress folks. So first one. Stefan and I in pair, but driven by Stefan, we are working on migrating update center to another cloud, which involve creating a new machine with Terraform on the new Terraform project with the data volume. We are working on how to convert the kind of machines and then that machine will be had it's and then we will do a, we will split the traffic once ready between both after talk for tests. And if everything goes, we can absolutely move everything to Oracle. The reason is because we are consuming between three to five K per month on bandwidth on AWS, mostly caused by that service. In order to update center on Oracle, we should be less than one K. So that's quite the quite the chip on with no blockers. We are trying to dig the Terraform Oracle provider, which is not the easiest one. Thanks to Stefan for the work on that part. So is that okay to continue for next iteration for that task, Stefan. Yes, of course. The priority given the need we have for money. Digital ocean. I have a should meet later today the team. We have created a note on ACMD for that topic. I can ask you to add the ACMD link inside the issue. I forgot to do it yesterday. I'm sorry. We cover different options. How much if we keep the same burn rates that we had, that should be one K per month. So that means asking for if it's a sponsorship for one year that will mean 12 K to use on their cloud. We considered also other alternatives instead of the Kubernetes cluster. So either we could put limit on the cluster to reduce the amount. We want to discuss with them the fact that we could gain almost 400 K per month if we were able to have a scale up scale down to zero, which is not the case technically speaking. So that's the big one to bring to them. And then based on the amount of money they are prepared to give we could also set up mirrors for Jenkins managed by ourselves. Because they have data centers in Singapore and India in Bangalore. And that that wouldn't cost too much. That will be a way even with the bandwidth. And also we could use dynamic fmr all virtual machines. They only support Linux out of the box. But still we could use all the docker builds and fracci or the machine for trusted CI. We could use totally different setups or clouds than CI and Kinsayo to split the cost. So we have different options with different level of cost measurements. We'll see how they feel about continuing. The proposal is to ask the same the same sponsorship burn rates aka one K per month. That's already a lot in a sponsor. It's a bit more than what they propose initially. It's an increase for them. So we might want to them prepare to write more blog posts or things about their setups. Great limiting. I should have asked an answer. I didn't. So I'm going to send an email to the open source program. The person in charge of that program looks like they are really, really busy. And also sending an official email on the mailing will allow me to share most of the information with the rest of the team. So we'll have something written that we could use in the future. So that should be same next iteration. Upgrade to Kubernetes 1.20. Stefan, what is the status? I did create the Kubernetes client. Cut all client. And I started the upgrade on the digital SM. And I'm right there. Is it done or? No, it's not done. It's a work in progress. Are you sure? I think we merge something on Terraform. Okay. Can you take care of checking that issue? Let me ask, are you going to work on that topic on the next iteration on one of the other clusters or? Yes, I hope so. Okay. Autonotify people based on service routing rules. RV, last iteration for you. You still have one week to continue working on it. So as I said last week, we should remove it from the milestone. Okay. Of course, if you find some time, don't hesitate to... Oh, okay. I need to remove it. Okay. Clear milestone. Thanks. Provide PowerShell on the Windows Docker image. Use the ACI. Yep. Nothing has been done, but some are, I think, about it. Some are, I think, we should test for the presence of PowerShell or AWSSH executable site. Okay. I think we should raise an issue on the plugin in charge of implementing PowerShell step because as for today, there are two key words on Windows. You have pay AWSSH and PowerShell. As service sites, that could be really a great help to the end user if Jenkins could be able to detect the one to check because either you have one or the other. And pay AWSSH is for smaller distros or older version of PowerShell. It's the opposite. I think even the AWSSH should be put in front in documentation on everything. I don't know. I'm not sure, but I think it's more the PowerShell cores and the Windows PowerShell version. It's the last version of PowerShell. While the PowerShell, the full PowerShell command call PowerShell version less than six. Okay. So definitely it's not less than six, but the AWSSH call PowerShell six and more. Okay. So clearly definitely a topic to open on the community because that's a feature on the pipeline plugin. Really important for that. There isn't any action required for infrastructure. So if it's okay, we will close that issue here. I'm not sure there isn't anything to do. What problem would it solve? Not a problem, but in our pipeline library, we are always calling with PowerShell command. Okay. I think it might not be available on some of our machine. Okay. So it's working today. So it's available. That might disappear if I understand your explanation. But that issue was about on the Docker Windows image. PowerShell is present on this image. But it's called a PWSH. Yes, but it works with the keyboard. Yeah. No. No, it doesn't work with the keyboard PowerShell. You have to use PWSH in your pipeline. If you want to call PowerShell on this Docker image. Okay. So, okay. So can I ask you to add a comment at the end of the issue explaining the next action, meaning we should at least update our shell library to use PWSH or B80, which most of the others are doing, depends on. The initial problem that raised that issue, that was something that JC and James Nord were blocked on, and they use B80 instead of PowerShell. That's sort of their issue. That's why the initial reason of that issue is not valid anymore. However, as Erwe explained, there is something to do for the infrastructure. Yeah, we were searching for PowerShell. Okay. Can you add the comment just to explain, and then someone can take it. So, yep, sorry. Is it worthwhile having nano server based images? If it doesn't include PowerShell, should we just acknowledge we're not going to. It includes PowerShell, but it's not called PowerShell.exe. It's called PWSH.exe, and it's a greater version than the one on Windows Evercore, which is called PowerShell.exe. I see. Okay. Thank you. Thanks for the clarity. That was a tricky one, honestly. But that's why we could help because if we add that issue, some user on the Jenkins community and Jenkins user will have that issue soon. So better to act now and to raise the topic on the community side. Another topic. Last one currently work in progress. Evaluate retry to improve the stability of the builds. So thanks Erwe for raising this one. The core of that requests is that Chessie worked in some time on the behavior of the pipeline that will retry a stage or a full pipeline. If, in some case, the pipeline fails because of an agent failure. The use case is for spot instances. When we have a spot virtual machine, it can be reclaimed in less than one minute. And the agent machine is stopped and removed, which means there is no way to keep this to risk to have the same state. The pipeline have to know the reason of why it failed. And when we detect such error, then it should be retried automatically one, two, eventually three.  The reason is because of the agent. Then I trigger new build manually. Not mentioning the issues we have of plug-in maintainer that don't have access to CI Jenkins. Or they have access, but they cannot click the build now. But also it's a use case for some Kubernetes cases, when in some case the agent has been removed. This set of features should solve the issue we have almost every time we redeploy a controller and restart it. If there are some builds running, they failed to continue or restart because of the reason. So, Jesse's working on that. That's an open source work. And we have started and deployed that work to infra-CI this morning earlier. The goal is to try more and more use cases. So we'll check with Jesse that will continue next week. The target is CI Jenkins. We don't want to release this pipeline because these are the pipeline plugins. So if we release that and it breaks, it can be sensitive. So we propose the help to Jesse. So we start on infra-CI. If it works, then we can extend the area of testing. The challenge is that we need real-life use case. We cannot test on some isolated environments that just run a kind of fMRL pipeline that does not map the reality of end users. So that's why we still have to go to production really soon. And we will install the pipeline plugins in incremental build, meaning from a pull request not released yet, on CI Jenkins at the moment on time. Because we need feedback on that core behavior because that could impact a lot of users. So right now we're using a version of the plugins pipeline that is under development as a beta texture on infra. Exactly.  So Nifty Trick that Jesse and I discovered, we didn't know it was possible, you can specify instead of the version plugin TXT, you can specify a URL to a plugin or a version from incremental. You have different ways. Awesome. That's really, really practical. So thanks a lot, Jesse and Dervé, for working on that part. LP, yes? He mentioned reason discussed there, but I don't know. It's his last comments. I don't see the reason. This one, just under your mouse. Yep. I don't know. Sorry. What are these reasons where to find them? I propose we discuss that after the meeting because it's part of the topic. The goal now is to say, okay, we have this, which means the takeaway for all of us in Frasier, he might be failing some build or might have word behavior when redeploying new version of Jenkins or plugins. If we saw that, we have to audit these changes on that issue. Okay. Thank you for everyone. Yes. Okay. So one last step. New topics. We have quite some. So that will be quite busy. I want white. I'm trying to sort the issues on the milestone, but it looks like I can't. First one, it's a little bit of a pain. Thanks. survey for, and Basil for raising that one. So we were blocking the maven updates because free. A dot five was having issue. Basil confirmed that we don't have that issue anymore. So we should be able to include the new free. A dot six. However, we had Daniel that asked for waiting before the staging of the That's why I did quickly a comment yesterday, I'm sorry for blocking that, because otherwise you did good and we should have proceed as soon as possible. There is no emergency on doing that, but still it's important to do it soon. So I propose that we move that issue on the next week milestone and we wait for Daniel and Vadek or at least someone from the security team to tell us that we can go away. Go for that update, just to be sure we don't put the security reason danger. Looks good for everyone. That sounds good to me and I can confirm I'm using Maven 3.8.6 in my cluster successfully. So when we finally do get to that point and now we've got the transition to Java 11 is for the weekly June 28th. So that's one week after the LTS. And that would probably be a good time. If not before then, that's already that's a good time to be switched to Maven 3.8.6. Cool. Thanks for confirming. So I've put that issue on next week, the Maven 3.8.6, because we will have to obtain it on different areas. Another topic that came back James open an issue asking us to integrate to enable again, something that existed years ago, where Jira is connected to GitHub. So there is a kind of automatic mechanism to reference issues in Jira with pull requests. I don't remember exactly. I tend to be scared by Jira. That's an integration to be installed based on the discussion and the memory. Lay memory trip to memory lane. I ask Daniel, Tim and Olivier. We should be able to do it. However, we might have an issue regarding rate limit on the API, a GitHub API. First point, rate limit usually on GitHub means you need to use a GitHub app to benefit from the version four of the API. But the GitHub app to integrate Jira with GitHub is only for Atlassian Cloud users, which we are not. And we cannot move our Jira instance to Atlassian Cloud because of the LDAP, not supported on the cloud. So we are condemned to use the old method with a technical GitHub user that has the right to write everywhere. That's not ideal in terms of security, but we don't have any solution. And as Tim said, we should have a dedicated Jira user because it was the Jenkins infrastructure years before Jenkins bots, and it was shared with other usages. So not only were we able to raise quickly to get the limits. So that's why Tim suggests to have a dedicated account just for that integration. So it only used the rate limit only for Jira and GitHub. So yeah, is there someone volunteering for that one? Should I do it? We can pair. But that's a user request that will help a lot of developers. So I understand the project management could be eased for them. I have a silly question, but is that not the same thing than the GitHub issues? That's the same feature, but on Jira. OK, because GitHub issues are already integrated in GitHub. Yes, but Jira issues are not integrated with GitHub by default. And using Jira for Jenkins Core is still a recommend and will stay. Oh, that's for the core. OK, yeah, because we did import our Jira in GitHub. For the infra project, but for the intranet of Jenkins Core and a lot of plugins are using that project security as well. And so there is that dissonance between things in GitHub and things in Jira that will always be kind of a mess. Migrating that project will mean migrating if you see the ID numbers. That's a lot of issues. And also, Hervé and I are on the team, the GitHub strong feeling team. And some people are strong feeling about Jira. And these teams will never be able to go to consensus. GitHub issue is on that level of Jira, their function in Jira, which you can't really reproduce. I don't mean to hurt feelings and to fight between Jira and GitHub stuff. It's just I didn't realize that they were using Jira in the core and plugins. That's all. The takeaway is that there are many more different use cases and Jira or GitHub issue alone cannot fulfill all the use cases. So two tools for different cases and we need both. That's what ends the integration request. Yeah, OK. So unless someone is interested, I've put it on my name. Mention yourself or assign yourself if you're interested in doing so. Put me if you wish. Yep. Mark, you opened an issue about the CPU-Z agent that was... That one you can assign to me, Damian, if you're welcome, if you're willing to, or I'll assign it to me because I think it's one I need to get the runbook updated so that we can do it. There is no reason for us to put it on anybody else. I interact with IBM. I just need to be sure that I describe how this works. And then we can consider your suggestion. I'm not a puppet expert. I know you'd suggest that, gee, should we puppetize this thing? And for my initial was I just want to get it online as cheap and quick as possible because it's a one-off and will probably always be a one-off given how expensive it is that they donate a Z-Series to us at all. The thing is that once you have an initial access as a one human, the advantage is that then by having puppets that will be able to make auditable if we need to install some change at large scale. If we want to configure Maven Java following the rest of our dates and also it will avoid everyone on the team to be able to maintain that machine in the future if we need it. So that that's the reason. So if you want, we can try. I understand that it wasn't done because there weren't any package back in the days. But it sounds like puppets. Some people were using puppets on Sancto S Linux on that kind of CPU. So I assume that the game instead of the puppet agent should be able. So I would be interested to try it. So so in terms of relative priorities, I'm I'm assuming that this is much lower value than most of the other things you're working on in terms of automating or helping automate. OK, good, correct. Super thanks for raising the issue. I've started the Ubuntu 20204 upgrade campaign as a reaction of last week, weekly release. That means we will have some consequences in particular open SSL CURL and CSR were updated, which means we might have issues on some of our machines. So we have to keep track of that. That should be interesting on some machines. But yeah, be careful. So my proposal is that we don't start working on that yet. We have Kubernetes. We have updates on how to migrate and Kubernetes to finish migrating or terraform managing. Is there any voice not agreeing with that priority proposal? OK, I think that's all. That's already pretty quick. I might take if I find the elements of minor tasks on that back burner, but I don't see other highly prior to you. I do not. OK. I think the getting ready for the upcoming release, the 22nd of the security release and then the Java 11 transition, the 28th are both both should be our key focus to be sure that we don't block anything on those. Absolutely. The priority enabling the upcoming release. Second priority migrating updates and talk to Oracle so we can decrease our cost in AWS, right? OK, is there any question, things unclear? The picture we want to bring. The repair of data that we just broke is a good point outside of that. Yes. So that's why I used an announcement about the outage. Right after that meeting, we will open an issue because the outage yesterday did not justify an issue. It was punctual. Today it justifies, so we'll do it. Stefan and I try to disable PagerDuty since the system was done and there is nothing we can do about. So paging the person in PagerDuty made no sense. And while trying to disable what we understood would have been the correct agent element. Now PagerDuty is alerting us with more alerts. So we have to better understand how it works and fix it. That's part of a knowledge sharing session we started last Friday about which component on Datadug is doing what. We talked a lot of issues to be treated, but yeah. We're going there. Thanks, Stefan. Good point. Good reminder. You're welcome. As a general matter, I propose the following improvements. If we have to open an issue on status Genkin Sayo, we should all expect each other to open a help desk issue associated with the link on the message. Sometimes it's you open the issue on status to communicate, especially the weekend or during night, of course. But then when we are back on walking out, the rest of the team should start on help desk or the person in charge of on duty. I think we all forgot to create one quite regularly. So that's not I'm not pointing finger and I don't say it's a bad thing. It's just I'm just saying we could improve in the future because we would have an audit log and we won't forget elements such as this one like Stefan reminded us. And can you do something to have a help desk issue that with the correct label will trigger automatically a new status dot are you the check ins that are your issue? Yeah, you have something like that planned, but it could be awesome. So, Stefan, can you open an Elbeck issue describing what you expect? And I will have a label status Genkin Sayo just to test. Just describe the feature requests. Just please write this down. Writing things down allows us to share the knowledge because there are people that cannot attend or who don't want to attend, but can still contribute. So that's why we need to write. Oh, yes. All right. You can also look at my random issue and yeah, come on there and we can. Write a proper issue, right? Yeah. So, so Damian, that brings a question for me. This system 390 thing. Should I flag that somehow on status dot Jenkins that I owe? And likewise, the power PC that's currently the agent is offline. Should this be in status dot Jenkins that I owe? Is this too, too, too, too questionable relevance to bother people with it on status dot Jenkins that I owe? Do you have a sense of should I should I have should I have updated status dot Jenkins that I owe to show that the agent is offline? Are there unique job running on it? Yes, well, yes, there are. But I modified the job definitions so that they're no longer dependent on that. So I would say who will be bothered by these machines being offline except the five of us? No one. So if it's OK for you, then we don't need to bother for these two machines. The rule of thumb will be if we open an issue on status Jenkins, you it's because someone outside the infrateam will be bothered. OK, good, good. I like that guidance. That's a that's a good guiding principle. Thank you. Is that is that a clear one that everyone agrees with or do you have? I think that makes sense. Status dot Jenkins that I owe is a way to share status with other people. So yeah, I like that. That's all for me. Are there other topics that we forgot? That you want to bring discuss cool. So now you have to stop speaking until next week then. Thanks, everyone, for the huge work you all did and for the help. Take care and see you next week.


I've got the mic right here. Oh, you need the, you need the, um, which in the body. The adapter. Hi guys. Y'all, we have a moderator. Y'all, we're big, believe right now. Just tripped. Can you guys hear me? How does this sound? Hi Sheila. How does the, uh, the mic sound guys, guys and gals. We got us, uh, our, our awesome follower and friend. Diane. Diana. Diane. Diane. Who will be here for our first class? She will. In a week. Oh my God, it's so much closer than I thought. In a week. Less than a week. That's so bananas. Who does that? We do. That too. All right. So just going to be doing a big pour, but while he preps that, I'm going to go ahead and do the second coat to this piece that we started yesterday. Looks like this. I guess I should hold it right side up. It looks so interesting. How like the clear like went over this silver and so it pushed it, but it looks like you should be able to touch it. See. As much. On the camera? No. It not. Just twist it. Yeah. I wish you could see the amount of detail. I'll lock them down. The clear just moved over like that. It's so cool. That's not when you give a different look, which I'm excited about because I don't honestly, we don't know anything about varnish over acrylic force. We know about resin over acrylic force. Maybe we'll test a varnish one day. What was the brown that used that day? The chocolate tent. By artist who? Are you sure? No. I don't think it was. Touch it. It's a little bit textured because I waited so long. There's like a little bit of tiny. What was that piece? Texture in it. Are you talking about the light chocolate color? That you did like last week? Yeah. That was chocolate by color obsession. Made of white. Yes. We are at 9,965 subscribers today. I brought a white over here. Mix some resin. I'm going to use art and blow. Just so you know, it's like he in the house. Madeleine is here helping us out. She came to town for Memorial weekend and decided that she would be available to mod with us for us so that we can do a pour for you guys. Hands free. Hands free. So hopefully my battery doesn't run down because I've got the mic hooked into that jack. When did that happen? Overnight. It all pushed. Which I don't mind because it gives it more organic flow. It's not so like meh meh meh meh. Those are all technical terms. Can you see the chat on your iPad? I tend to be a chatterbox. Just let me know if you need to answer a question. You can't hear me very well Nancy. It's just twisted this way. Maybe that's better. Is it better? It goes quick. You got to just storing me. So anybody have any questions yet? Are they reading pretty fast or typing pretty fast? No. Okay. Oh, Amber did have a question. Just kidding. Sorry. No. Amber answered a question about the silica. We don't know anything about the. Not using the top. Exactly. You get to double through words during life. All the time. The thing. You know. Stop. The stuff we don't use. We don't do the stuff that, yeah. Lars wants to know how the festival was y'all. It was bananas. Completely banana. You're good. Luckily you donated us that money because one beer was 1650. One beer was 1650 one beer her her cider was 1650 for one of them Even the guy with the money with this was like I just paid $75 for three shots three shots That's insane. That's like kitty bar prices. Like come on They definitely went up since they changed to those techies So I'm using two different kinds of resin tonight as usual with geodes because One will set quicker than the other so I can use it as a barrier. I also got some art Resin know something epoxy clay I'm gonna be trying that out next week Since I already have this one started Now going back these legs are so warm But I just turn the AC on Don't worry I can see all the I can see all the questions unless you turned it off Zero part It's just warm in here, but I guess it's probably better for the resin Pretty warm. What resin should you should? Jessica use on slate Is it gonna be used as a table? She has a bunch of pieces and she thought she would try it She didn't she had didn't say Let me know the end result like what you're gonna use it as for Ultimately, so I can point you in the right direction because different resins are best used with different end surfaces Ron Jackson wants to know is used the Keychain light on the pecs and the plexi for yet. Um, he did to me an email about that It should be up there Or it used to be hanging off the side of that unless it has fallen Ideas wants to know if you got magic sculpt or a similar project or product So I ended up getting a poxy sculpt Looks like this. It's still in its original packaging It's a modeling compound self-pardoning waterproof. I Don't know anything about it Other than I can put it with red them That's the sum total you need to listen in the other room Christie in order Christie how I'm wants to know if you ever got her donation I haven't updated it Christie I did however Receive the donation. Thank you very much for contributing to our channel It means so much and you're also included on the May note. Yep 31st giveaway and Where do you find your crushed small crystals and wouldn't that be in the fireplace glass? The small shards like these are from That store Michael Mike so Eddie would that would be from Michaels You can also like the bigger shards. I got from Stambrill. Well, I got him from Judy via Stambrill You can probably Get smaller pieces through them. I just haven't checked it out first-hand personally yet The struggle is super real Thank you hanging on Tony for answering that question of Jessica's He answered the Slate question also awesome Hey with any also has a YouTube channel He does some pretty cool work. Thank you Carol for donating five dollars. That's so sweet of you You're entered into our giveaway man. Oh, you don't have to write those down Later, I can go through and look if they don't make through that Go back and find it. Okay, like the super chat. Yeah If it's very like Then no or PayPal then I've got to write it down This is a reflex red or highlight red. I'm really interested to see how this works Now I'm putting a little bit more than I should in this because I want it to stay a thicker consistency I know Ron. It's only 35 away. She's share the video and we will get there tonight Be awesome. It's your any of the videos. We'll get there tonight That's bananas. So bananas. I have it right there Let me pull it up on your that Trace of color I've burnt my leg on a heat gun before but it was about eight years ago So I know your pain Yes, and Erica has her scar her basketball looking scar and now Couldn't have been a cooler design, of course Whatever so I've had a lot of questions lately about doing a class on Geodes it would be like a four-day class. I Could probably do in three Let me know if any of y'all are seriously interested in sweet pea that your question about or your suggestion about marbles and banging them with a hammer to get shards of glass There is actually a very very good Suggested suggestion video on abstract bosses channel For for that it is It will save you a lot of struggle with banging marbles and a Lot of broken concrete or chipped paint on your concrete trust Yes, trust Yeah Or chipped hammers even Yeah Yeah, actually boss has a great she does a lot of Geo's and she does super awesome stuff with My every girl Dollar Tree There's nothing wrong with Dollar Tree Geo's no shame at all You don't even know when we first started we were doing pores with Some ratchet materials W probably shouldn't even use but Sometimes you get surprised at how You'd be surprised at how things turn out I think some of this sassy red is a little bit too abrasive so I'm gonna Fill it in with this color Ruby red by color obsession Yes, this is all on top of the poor that I didn't like And actually more than that it was a poor that Jeff didn't like I wouldn't pour over a piece that he liked Unless he specifically said Do what you want with this Ashton not long ago. You guys mentioned something about doing a show at the end of this month. Where is it going to be? Well, we have a show going on right now in deep Ellen, Texas in Dallas area and It's not only ours. We're part of a show It's at a bar called it's at a bar art venue And artists in general the people that work there amazing John the owner is amazing John LaRue You go tell him we sent you It's it's called deep Ellen art company And I recommend people go because they have a show every two weeks and it showcases different kinds of art Different kinds of artists. I think we're the only resin artists there, but Yes Like I'm just being cute what I do He'll come out and see what's going on and then he'll go back to his little cubby So we're like, let me know when it's time to go, you know where All right, don't bother me I'm using this highlight red It's a pearl, but the reflex the interference is a red color It looks not red to me to be honest.  I'll be doing favor. That'd be amazing Think you want some to drink? Well, they really have his wine and whatever beer he's on at the time Gotcha Don't blame you Oh, it's a flake The thing about doing geodes is I Don't mind if they dip in the middle at all because it'll make the piece move overnight And so it's kind of like a surprise for me in the morning checking out how It's settled. Okay Yes Eddie would we Eddie would they are in Dallas and Karen Are they're gonna be classes in August Yes, I'm trying to do at least one a month Normally, it's the first weekend of the month last weekend of the month. That's what we're trying to do April May June July That would be That's not your birthday. We can do that last weekend. It is. Well, we're gonna have to push it up a weekend Ron Jackson. Are you offering to send? 30 pounds of Torgan off lights Erica you I'll take it We'll never turn down exactly stuff Chris Hart asked were you able to set up the Facebook group? I don't think that's I haven't done it yet No, it's on my massive to-do list That gets the larger every day barely for sure That is aluminum tape She's here she's real person Just one piece you're okay.  I'll lose that color Stormy rain. Hi Billy Bill. Hi. Bye. Bye. Sweet pea Where's she going? More of the shaky camera. The spray paint can cause Underneath the resin If you put it underneath the resin on the canvas glossy spray paint can cause the resin to not adhere correctly to the canvas So they'll end up with like pitting Which is not a good time to fix In the resin Should be fine in the resin it should be fine as a as a As a colorant in the paint it should be fine Roxanne she is adding Complementary colors, so they're not all the same colors, but they're complimenting the first layer So like the red that she's using today is not exactly the same Um, she toned down This is the red from yesterday, and this is the red I'm using today I wanted something a little bit more transparent and something a little bit less abrasive But I am using this turquoise that I used yesterday, and I'll probably use this deep teal that I used yesterday Thinking about also breaking out that silver Thinking about it on the second layer usually use a lot of transparent Because I don't want to hide what's under it like all of this is new But you can still see what yesterday was down there, so it gives an extra layer of depth I'm also trying really hard to keep separate My artist who colors and my art and glow colors No guarantee that I say separate You're welcome Latia Ashton The two-day classes are two hundred dollars Yeah, I want to get a couple workshops in just so I could work the kinks out and then we'll amend the prices The the prices will be amended Eventually, but at this time they're two hundred dollars Ashton for the two-day group and Including all of the materials today class with all the materials That's just for the June Think the June and July will for sure be 200 after that we're gonna have to amend it because we're getting charged Beyond so far we have just done the Geode Yeah, I haven't done anything too crazy yet Does that even look like any kind of red is in that from over there Do what does that even look like there's any kind of red in it or is it just look for less than it looks It kind of looks red, but it looks like Mother pearl. No, it looks like melted strawberry ice cream I can accept that Melted strawberry ice cream as opposed to just old pork posters today and delivering an 11 by 17 tomorrow whoo-hoo That's amazing Kelly. Yes, Jeff is pouring tonight after This is finished Prepping right now. He's prepping right now and getting some other stuff done and then after This is finished. We're going to clear this area and Do a big pour Where both Jeff and Erica are working on it together For better or worse, we're gonna try it, but both of us working on one piece Passion, this is Megan. This is Meggy Lynn She was so nice Meggy land.com Oh Shameless plugs I just you didn't see it It's a whip worries I just appreciate your help I think I'm gonna add more glitter to this as well But I can't decide I don't think I'm gonna add any more of this blue glitter the metal plate because thank you Kelly I don't want it to be like a Judy finished a page in her coloring book Judy I love you. Judy's an expert color Have you ever been seeing Judy's work? Is color like a real word? Let's say colorist Colorist colorist is a thing. It is now an east sign's term Everybody's well. She's bananas. It's makey Lynn M E G G Y L I N I typed it down there beside my name However, it's not alive yet Or is it? Yeah, I thought you said it wasn't my my website's not live but like my Twitter and my Instagram is You follow me on Twitter and Instagram I'm so behind on my Twitter.  No, Lars is from Georgia He just has the name like he smokes every one half hour one half hour SNG That's all shits and giggles. Oh I know, okay No worries from me Ashton, it's it's Megan. It's It's me. We'll pull our aside and get her in front of the camera after this That way she doesn't have to keep getting up and coming around Right Yeah Just pop in some air bubbles. Oh, yeah, there's tropical storm coming in Everybody everybody in the southeast of the United States you guys be safe having it right now Okay Kelly Kelly Green ask has anyone tried to pour with the color copper I'd love to see a copper for bees on copper This one's copper I hope you guys can really see the difference in The copper and the gold. It's just like that a little bit of a burnt gold Awesome here, okay, right where am I? Judy we do have the backlight off tonight is that She's saying it's a dark. Yeah Did that help Judy She'll let us know That's something amazing about Judy. There's no question She'll tell you. Yeah, it's better much better Everybody says it's better Regular Use some of this all the red glitter very Tourette see sometimes But in a loving way, I think that'll look great Edward spies says please check out my Memorial Day for art underscore by underscore Eddie underscore S on Instagram and tell me what you all think Shameless plugs Edward I don't mind Edward Sykes. Sorry. I said spies. I didn't do the first time I said it Sykes. Sorry What do we think about that glitter? I Was trying to keep it like deep reds and teals instead of like rowing look Yeah, there's no way around it I think that's too bright of uh, it's too it's a little bit too Tiffany Oh Not that Diane asks if you guys got her package Dan her package That is a loaded word and you you can still see Instagram if you go on a Computer and look up Instagram.com You go Instagram.com slash and then his username See our present Looks like this Won't stretch. Yeah, Diane's present was the that's Diane's package She's the reason why you guys can hear me Also loaded She does have a great package children That's what she said she did cheers Does this look too much like? Can you hear me shy? She has a sweetheart love her Jay torres those are pieces of glass and the canvas Michael's craft store so in some colors they're like the acrylic inks They can get opaque really fast. So I'm just like barely tenting them to cover up Areas that I already have like reds Ashton it was a microphone that she sent That was crazy needed It was by Movo, I'll link in the description box It's actually the same exact microphone that I have for my my Camera at home She sent me the information on it forever ago and I kind of it got lost in all the things we were doing But great minds think alike. So it's all meant to happen Carol Ann I said almost the exact same thing. I said that it looked really Memorial Day It's a good day for me to do it then Because you love your country You'll want to buy that Very artsy Memorial Day Yes, that would that would make such an amazing 3d looking one. I haven't tried it 3d or I don't know the colors You make the best ones I was trying to stick with like pinks and teals and reds and stuff, but it turns out it's it's staying Memorial Day shy says it shy said her uncle died in The Vietnam War so she she loves her country well Thank your family for their service shy my parents are in the military So I'm very close with All of that my sister's done like three tours My mom and dad are both retired Air Force Chris first for today tagged ATD on ATD art on Insta. I will look it up. I Got almost all the emails responded to today. So I feel really accomplished Even though I woke up as an alien after yesterday's concert It was so good It was a good concert We went we just kind of walked in like we knew we were supposed to be there to the area that we weren't supposed to be We have long seats. Oh my god Going on in there Megan people are good being haughty mouse and As as ideas put it douche canoes doing a block somebody Judy took care of it or Karen. What happened? I bet sounds like they took care of it We have amazing mods Thank you mods. Thank you mods Maybe we should send presents I'll be over at Judy's She's gonna need help with her Lars says Erica, please tell your family. Thank you for their service. Absolutely. Well It's Cheryl it her son is a Pilot in the Air Force now. Oh awesome. That is a good-looking display There you go And he would there will be a part three to this. Yes, they will Trace the colors says that his brother is in the Marine Corps and His brother-in-law is in the army and just got home from Syria. That's awesome Carol Anne's Carol Anne is former army and husband is retired army Yeah, a lot of military folk. Oh, yeah my dad is retired army and Brother Was in the army? Cheryl Wilson art is son is deployed now her husband. No No, yeah, that is tough But I think ultimately they're doing something that they're proud to do and yeah, very noble cause Urban was Navy Thank You Teresa for your service Like she just Retired retired from the Navy after 22 years Every time Paula wall comes in I think like of all the rap songs, right? Paula wall From the window Paula wall to the sweat drop down That's what we're usually This just kind of happened People who have served that's so awesome We've got well, I can't see on here Mine yeah Right now Y'all better get to it Judy I'll send you to your room According to my thing right here, it says Town Judy About the slackers let's get on those slackers goes thumbs up slackers Good And that regular looks great. No, I forgot that it was so like reflective Well, and then plus the glass too. It's like double What color what are we gonna name keel because there's got to be a good name You should name it the geo firecracker Like it Where did you Jeff? Where did you go? Where are you? What did you and Erica think of my party night idea? What was that Diane? Oh Doing dinner. Oh Yeah Totally do dinner. We can totally do that You said you were getting in at six something six thirty-five Thanks, Sheila for a thumbs up. I see that's what you can't charge it Starting to set Did you everything ready for yours be is everything ready for your poor? Yeah Well, JD is For all of you guys at home following along ghosting is When you just leave without telling somebody by you just goes down You just disappear from the party This is the consistency you want when doing geo. It's just like Cold honey What is a proxy skull that's what I'm gonna use to make my free-form geo You can sculpt with it. Yes, honey So boom second layer of geoting in the box so now I'm gonna hit it with he one more time just to Get any bubbles out But as I've said before you don't want to reignite and liquefy your resin So this is just a quick heat that looks so deep I know but it's all even On the side of it. Yeah It is but they've had geodes is Very perfect So I have to be like OCD about it See how this is like staying so much better than some of the other lines. It's because it was like cool set So tomorrow, I'm gonna not take any of this stuff all the tape off Until tomorrow so I can show you guys how I do that and how to handle That battle so that's a battle in and of itself cardinal cardinal Welcome Sheila. Hi Sheila We accept your addiction Right welcome to the pole But you we open the thing Judy before we move it we will see the Miss out on the up close Good to go GTG right then so you guys Interesting news We've decided from y'all's recommendations to do mystery boxes So This is what we're gonna do Small and large mystery boxes They're gonna be you could get up a taco one day who knows you never know We're gonna fill it With awesome, but the awesome is gonna be not the same every time ATD stuff We're gonna put stickers t-shirts paintings paint Stir-sticks coasters shirts basically All kinds of awesome. I think I need to upload that while since you're here filming. I'm just gonna Do that Oh No, I was gonna take a photo of my phone and then upload it to the But no worries, I'll just do it Later Are you gonna base paint this at all? So we're doing an out of color palette with this poor He's gonna use gold white brown Nickel and nickel earth tones if you will This is a 12 by 36 Super pumped about it. I've not been able to get on your shop. I know No, we haven't peeled that off yet If we do like skins like that we have to do it on this on this black. Well, no, it doesn't be No, I try to take it off like one area just would not come off It doesn't come off easily so the answer is Not the best idea So if we were gonna do like skins for everybody Weird because it does come off but it tears but then again, this is art resin so if we left this for Two more days Yeah, that's one thing about I wouldn't I wouldn't make it I wouldn't try to do skins like that or the drip or the water fall waterfall pieces That's definitely a no-no Skin snake wax paper works by your charm and that's very true Also, I will be sending a sticker that is signed because we forgot to sign one of her people's Who and so that went to a little bit the heart We didn't sign Love you and thank you Eric and Jeff for awesomeness again. Have an awesome day. Thank you ma'am Have you tried a Piva shower curtain? I thought that would work How do I get it off my glass patio table? paint scraper But you have to get something under it to like oh, yeah Exacto blade. Yeah, an exacto blade should work Do you want that rolling chair? Sure. All right. Let me know What about Are those stools gone? We're still there when we put out in the hallway It might be a little more comfortable So you haven't missed it all yet. We're just starting just four. Bye shy What's this day? Hey, we use that I Should know by now not to just do a regular ponytail. Yeah You can you yes, I just I need to have those around so that I know what's a list Yeah, I have maybe this You're not you've been exploring. I don't know. I just Put it there just You guys I saw our Let me show you all the way out This is our first order for artists you our stoplids So close y'all my ticker Like share subscribe, I know like share subscribe comment share on Facebook Twitter Instagram We have a Wanted to bring the baby so bad today But the babies wanted to stay with the other babies so bad Well our says my space I'm dying That's that's still a thing Yes, it's still it's still something share on my space. Hi Barbara Like I hear they're gonna revamp it or something. Oh There's another let me let me find the other The new artist Share on that what is it you know, it's a it's a social network They're like Pinterest like Twitter Facebook It's the newest Facebook thing Built for artists Is it booboo or Baba for artists by artists something like that Megan check this out Oh Yes, Erica is okay. She's right behind me She she she dropped 42 empty bottles. Oh, no, the thingy is Take you over here to the Bank of America Look at that and that right there Where I were not that building specifically, but Ha ha, sorry. I just walked a cloud through a haze Do what I'm the most graceful Why because it was shaky. No because I dropped everything earlier. Oh Well, I'm I would I can I Can be proof that you're not the only one that falls over nothing and bangs into every Every single table that there is to bang into Hi, Lisa What I wanted to do is to do like Thank you Eve. All right ideas. Are you in here? Yes? Jevis special challenge for you. Oh, they could hear you Yeah, I'm across the room. I don't have it plugged in. I don't have it plugged in That's true Yes, a challenge for you ideas Hit That back box says $10 on the actual box. I was wondering why that looks so strange They were they were making fun of it in the chat And But it says a hundred it says $100 on the sign, but it says $10 on the box Yeah Yes, we have 25 Where's my 25 50 100 they can come with t-shirts sticks paint Stickers canvases paintings markers all cups coasters Blank canvases Glitters Glitters Samples Judy San just sent you for it 14.99 Fireball Your iPad is at 5% iPad is at 12% so Rather So y'all we're thinking about putting a kit together right so it'll come with like all of the cups and measuring cups and gloves and coasters for like bonus sticks All the colors you need and resin on a custom board Cut for my ATV peeps and we're thinking about just putting it out there. This is what The the boards are by Greg work just thinking about like putting these together and have like a pour with us video Just a thought we're just putting feelers out to see what you guys think of the idea Let me know. I've got a couple of hell. Yes. That's a cool idea Love that idea totes starter pack great idea Fantastic got a doctor who in the house right here. What? All right since Judy paid for it. I feel very obligated That's that's less than half a shot That's fine because we're aliens today Last time JD was here someone peed in my closet Let me just put that out there It they did that's not a mystery If it was JD or Timmy Judy Love you Judy real talk though. We do our best pours after a shot of that Hair of the dog this true Judy and that was very hairy Martha Greg shop is Um, oh my god, it's I have it on my phone I'm just gonna put it all on a whiteboard behind us I'll pull it up on my phone real quick and show it to you It is a BG designs. I believe I know you wanted to go see that so bad B. I'm sorry Jeff is the biggest Justin Timberlake fan. Yeah, there it is. Have anybody ever made Warranted because Justin Timberlake is a merger. Okay You need a scrolling graphic at the bottom broad line, how do I do that? Okay? It's a BG designs co on Etsy that is Where you can order like the octagon pentagon triangles All of the things I moved it over because of the chat and you guys can't see the chat that we have how do we order mystery box You guys okay After we get off of here, I'm gonna add them to the website, but in the meantime You can go to You can just shoot us a PayPal or a Venmo at Thorna artist till death comm to tease to L Don't forget that little in and there or Venmo at artists till death Meantime, I'm gonna have it all on our website Hopefully the end of today, but you know what I'm live streaming through YouTube She's so good. She's so good. I think shipping is like we're gonna say it's $20 The contest will for lupus will be after the month has finished All of them on the 31st So we had two giveaways coming up on the 31st our donor giveaway and the lupus giveaway are both on the 31st Finished my poor yet. So it can't be finished Don't call me a slacker. I have lupus. I have to feel better I have to feel better in order to do my poor And I can't feel better to help the cause and you just don't want to contribute I can't feel better until I have the drugs that make me feel better. Well, it's it's chemo So like it takes a couple of weeks to get in know how you handle that. Are you like are you okay with chemo? I mean you look beautiful all the time. So like how does I know it drained you? I've had employees that like went through chemo and they like are done for three days after Oh, no, it was like two weeks after No, I did not have any key I did not have any fireball I That's true Debbie I did not have any fireball at all because I take very strong medications for lupus Hey Kelly, I'm just very very goofy anyway Kelly haven't you seen me in chat? Right Philly Phil it is Cannabis is a wonderful option and I so very wish it was legal in Oklahoma but that is not a legal option in Oklahoma and It's also not an option for my employer and I I would love to a to be able to to Have that option which when we are able to vote on that in June I will be voting for that to be an option in Oklahoma so Come June 26th when we vote in Oklahoma for medical cannabis I will be voting yes So thanks for the the suggestion Philly Phil But I've looked into it and that is something that Can you guys see that just look it up 8 18 and 25 But anytime that's what it is and if you want to get in on the first round PayPal and bedmills cool, or I'll just have it listed on the website me on them Ideas that was the crazy challenge. You got me all crazy. Oh It's gonna be graffiti what is it turn your favorite graffiti piece into a four Little section a little square This one looks like if you were if you were slightly blind Looking at graffiti you would understand that that would be graffiti. I love this thumb print station on Pandora Oh Clara asks if that is an open challenge. Oh, yeah Ideas asked her remember the bubble letters he posted to you. Oh seven thirteen eighteen Shy says looks Native American, but she's biased Because she's First Nation shy keep meaning to send you that stuff My best friend did that for me today the the numerology Like she did my star chart and everything for me Off-white that's free thing it's showing up when a piece comes out like Well, you have in mind what you literally have it like that's what exactly what I was like Seeing in my head It's almost like hotel art like old hotel art rusty says Jeff I've been watching you and Erica use that he can how do you not burn the resin I don't leave it in one place Very fluid with that. That's that's what gives that's what gives it my style to look Shy says I will tell e things that will curl her hair These tweezers are like so tiny I know be on yes, they they heat their resin on low temperature. I Do it at high because I wanted to I wanted to Like you can get cells just by heating it like You can get lacing and cells just by By moving it you just don't leave it in the same spot for so long Erica Broadline says Erica you can add text to a stream, but you need a third-party software like OBS to do it Okay, I'll look it up. I Love this. It's a very clean being very classy To get new ones well, we have to pair somewhere Judy says we should work on an overhead camera holding contraption Well to do that we would need like We'd also need to run the We'd run need to run To Hi, Nathan.  So you see him on the the chat right there. You can bully him He's he's my son. He's only 10 years old. He needs to get out of chat So when you see when you know, you don't need to bully him Judy Yeah, we don't we don't bully but no but we He's he's my son.  He uh, oh the poor. Yeah, I'll get it.  I think that's it's throwing me off with uh Oh, Lisa said here's 20 because y'all are fam now I can't even handle that how amazing our people are You moved it I'm about to put my hands in there No more stories of Nathan, please. Okay Daphne says it looks like chocolate and caramel exploded on the canvas Sheila asks um, erica what torgenal do you want? Uh, whatever you don't want I'll take it Jojo says Ferrero Rocher melted on Jeff's canvas yo I should have brought you the extra box. I have at my house So, um cbs has this thing where they give you like dollars Anybody's interested in this this is for sale 600 and that thing is worth it That is gorgeous Shimmer I wish I could get up and show you guys No shy, I didn't are yet shy asked if I arted Or whatever 900 9972 So close by manana If I wake up and we're shy. Yes, this is megan harrell If I wake up and we're close to hitting 10,000, I'm going to do a pour in the morning Real talk Yes, Nathan almost 10,000 So you guys are going to be in town tomorrow. Yeah This is a friend that he's a really good friend of mine seems to be Ladies he's not single Today today Today There's beer in the little mini fridge Oh, yeah, there's beer in the bar. There's shy ask megan What was your life path and what was your heart's desire? Art that here we are now let me get down on Shy mine What's it called um in college where you like like To call it party. No, no, I didn't do that thing I had babies in college My major in college was art Well, I double I double majored I double majored in art and math So that I could teach both JD is scared to be on camera Even his voice with them Like is he wanted in some state right now? I like the haircut Oh in numerology. Oh, I have no idea Yeah I have no freaking no no no idea shy you'll have to email me He's not gonna talk to you Why not Because he doesn't want his voice on youtube. He was wanted in seven states He said he knew the chin and that's about it for the haze and hello's Also, he does sign language Just one finger It was number one Nothing tiger Debbie, I know there is a lot of math and art, you know what my son is is uh um homeschooled and Uh, this resin stuff is part of his math curriculum. So Yeah I was a math professor too, but um That's pretty cool And if somebody wants to buy that painting I just did these cultures will come I love um I love it when stuff is so subtle makes such a big difference like It makes such an impact that it's so so Amazing Do you want to close up that The judy the painting is 600 and the the um The the coasters come with the painting Memorial Day special 500 Memorial Day special for the painting is 500 Where's that little hand here? There it is Oh look Is andria here today because there's There is uh craft herpes all over here Where's and where's andria because there's craft herpes for next week Yeah For real for Dude Can uh Can nathan come along? I mean he will he will be a helper He said here buy some on a class and I know you were talking about wanting to be a part of it. So right Now he's gonna say that's not my signature So now you have to be here for two days Get off of this one That's not you that's because of my internet Let me check it out north star Okay If I can get it I can come up with two winners before them So So Our friend JD just bought megan a seat into the class We signed our pieces with um Pen touch These metallic gold and metallic silver paint pens There by pen touch They're they're really really great Everybody on our feed says you're the best JD He said he's just here to support his friends And he really has been he has One of our favorite pieces ever, you know, we've got a lot of requests for prints for that piece that you bought the What have I done painting? We've got a photo of it somewhere It's that like geisha looking one with the gold there's um A Time lapse of the process.  I hope everything's okay with the baby Oh, yeah Um trace of color. No kelly green says add teal I don't think he has any clear left I lied. He's got clear left I think he's trying to get done with the piece because his His buddy's here and they're gonna go have shenanigans. The gold is the glitter gold Judy you always have control Should I said man that JD has a manly voice You ever did that you know? Oh my god Sheila the things that that I'm looking for from torgenal Are the the flakes.  Thank you very much. We send me an email. So I don't forget because I'll forget Hi, Angela Roz asks which are the best white cells cast and craft or system three right now I would say cast and craft to be honest between those two However, my more favorite is the artist through white of the paintings that I use. You comfortable. You good Miss Erica Lee says I always come home with Taco Bell and pizza rolls on my mind girl. I have a stack of pizza rolls in my freezer right now Judy is the madra. It's true. Hi, Jamie Linda they are already packaged up going out on tuesday when the post office reopens Beyond I don't know why Your cast and craft cells aren't working Jamie right now you have to She says pizza rolls lead to rolls true, but there is just more question for the push in um Artists here right now you can order through Judy. It's jh sand at me dot com, but Um, this is a low key secret. So y'all don't tell anybody only my currently 155 closest friends are gonna know this I'm gonna start carrying artists who sh don't tell anybody I'm doing an official announcement as soon as I get my package in um in a few weeks So if you want to wait you can order through my website if not, um Sheila, I hope the weather is not too bad. If not, um You can just contact Judy The chocolate Do you put it in it? But it looks good on your big one though Damn it Lars said ATD after dark 21 and up it's shot o'clock Idea says y'all been done told us that Listen, not everybody is here every day. It's not my fault. I have to repeat it But still only the fam knows Trace of color says I'm waiting so I can order from ue though. I do love judy. I just don't want to wait for the shipment Judy is actually my partner in this crime So It's kind of like ordering from judy Samantha Nobody that I know of carries artist sue Simone if she's in here she Distributes for lores I believe in canada. Um, either way, I'm gonna talk to my distributors for the sticks to see if they are down to distribute the Color obsession and etc Lucy, I will Oh, that's awesome. Jojo be just let it rest. I will put a top coat on it How soon will you have the artist sue? Roz it should be a couple weeks. I know she packaged. She's packaging it up today so Hopefully it's not too much longer. Lucy said ease. Please put jeff's colors tonight in the description box I sure will but just so you know like Offhand it's glitter gold by artist sue chocolate brown by color obsession nickel by doc martin And then white by color obsession So but I will add all these In the description box. Um rusty I'm not sure if we're doing pre-orders because I'm not exactly sure what all orders are coming in the first batch But I will let you know Could those artist sue colors possibly come in the mixture box with the tacos? Yes, it's quite possible Somebody's getting the taco you best believe that y'all even know I'm including a taco tail. It's the one individual that's gonna happen I'm sorry, Samantha. I probably missed the geode. You did but no worries the geode Hey, baby, we pulled it We pull out the geode Just real quick. There's no paint under it Pardon That piece looks great be Now it's being fidgety. Were you pulled it payment? I think it might be just on hub. It's not Good it was an ink It looks like Yeah I know good night margo I can't even buy whoever left shy says softer hardshell hardshell for sure So it can get soggy on the way. Oh my god. I just said that out loud Um or chalupa. Okay I'm confused about the mystery box deals. Danielle. This is the thing. Okay. So we're gonna send out mystery boxes in 25 plus a dollar shipping The medium size is $50 plus $14 shipping and the large size is $100 plus $18 shipping. These will include mystery items That include nothing will ever be the same Nothing will ever be the same. It can be one Sturstic, you never know We would not do that We're gonna add stir sticks coasters paintings canvases t-shirts stickers Paint from artisans levres color obsession. Maybe we'll send a shot of fireball if you're 21 and up um We're gonna just Stuff it with the mysterious of the mysteries. Can you make street tacos? I'm down I'm so glad you made it miss erica lee Um, yes lucy. I will be doing color obsession distribution as well. I'll be talking with her um Probably the middle of this week because she has this week off to do just color obsession So I'll be talking to her about all of that This week and I'll have definite order dates for the color obsession and the um Artists who looks like Good quality paint for pores starting out, but not sure where to buy supplies. Daphne. I'm gonna I'm gonna have color obsession and Artists who which are to me top of the line along with le rez So You'll love it. Anyways Oh, yeah, you can just do a paypal donation by tomorrow I'll have these three box sizes listed on the website artists till death comm 2d 2t's 2l's in the meantime just if you want to pre-order those Do you throw in an artist till death comm on paypal or artists till death on venmo In the description just write size mystery box you're going for And I'll have those sent out next week Um, I already did a pour tonight. So I will not be doing a pour I have to get jeff on his way with his buddy so I'll be picking back up minyana. Anyways Judy are going out of the pigment biz. No, she's teaming up with me And we are going to be doing it together I can't even tell you guys Do you know where to buy those paints in canada? Daphne? I'm going to talk to my uk Canada well, australia doesn't need it because it's from there, but I'm going to talk to my Canada and uk distributors to see If they would be open to distributing for these two countries for me And then if you just want to show us what you got show us what you do So just use this or if you just send me an email with it in there Thank you so much for everybody that contributed. You will be included in the giveaway on the 31st. Also What's that moving? The lupus for giveaway will be on the 31st as well Thank you guys so much for everything And I'll see you guys tomorrow Bye That's a wrap. How do you end?


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Any questions? Hi. I'll use the mic or just chat. Yeah, I'll use the mic. I will put this here. Okay. So, not quite a question. Do you have a question? Maybe I'll answer it later. No. But do you want one then? Or do you think about this? So three things. One. The big difference is that the protests don't really do anything. But I grew up in Australia in a very corrupt government in the 80s and we protested. We marched. We got beaten by police. We got arrested. And the government changed. And I think that was very much a part of it. So it's true that the protests have come at some personal cost but I don't think that they should necessarily be ruled out. It's possible that I'm not advocating anyone to do this in Singapore. Different circumstances are of course different for different things and I wouldn't do it in a country that isn't my own. I guess you have your own places where you think you should fight. But I think protests are not necessarily a dead end. It was one comment. The second was on a sort of slightly depressing tone of I guess, sorry I can't pronounce your name properly, the last speaker who said that things are getting much worse. I think things are far from perfect. But again in my lifetime in Australia black people went from being non-citizens to citizens. Women got the vote in the last 100 years. I think that now we're fighting about freedom to access intellectual property is a happy thing. It's better than fighting for the right for women to vote for example. We've actually made some progress. And the final thing was one of the ways we could change, so I'm an academic, I write papers and in our subfield of computational linguistics we opened up all our journals. So we basically took control from the publishers and we said we will release it partly it's because we don't want to read our journals anyway. I wrote one of your EBMT papers recently. I can't remember what it's about. It was there for you to read because we made this fight. We said it makes sense to release things and we will release things. So without changing the legislation you can also make I think useful changes. Although changing legislation would also be a fantastic thing. Let's respond briefly. I agree that the relationship that things have gotten better in some ways but and I don't know the situation in Singapore although, excuse me for pronouncing the name incorrectly I did see a case of ordinary linguistics recently that indicates that maybe there are still some complexities going on. With that said if I look at America and I look at Europe which I know much better in the U.S. we've gone from a political system that was nearly corrupt in a long ways 150 years ago to a political system now we have no more illegal private politicians in America. It's wonderful. We've legalized all of the private and there are structural issues which run incredibly deep in the state captured here. The previous figure to me mentioned looking at the women's suffrage movements as an example for how that fight happened. You know what the women's suffrage movement did? They got out in the streets and they fought and I don't mean they fought as in they went to march for placards. They did that too. I mean they broke windows. They got arrested. They got murdered by the police in numbers and that was what it took. It took an actual fight. It took inconveniencing those in power to a degree that not changing became impossible. That is what it takes. Now I don't necessarily think that street protest is the best option. I do not certainly do not know enough about the Singaporean context and again any comment on what makes sense there I also don't think that this notion that we can simply for example petition the rich to share their money with other people and that if we send them a really nice letter, we send them a nice enough letter, they'll just kind of hand over their money to the court. Now this is not how history works. I believe that as we are in a time of systemic change and as we are dealing with many systems that have different ways of leverage, there are places where we can provoke that leverage but we will need to do that. Okay. What I was trying to communicate there was I was trying to be like a gaslight and like bite you all because I don't understand how these mechanisms work and as successful as like fighting my beef greatly and as successful as protesting my beef I don't really get something I don't really feel comfortable about something unless I get the system I get the system involved and I can predict it to an extent at which if I make some fixed change I can have an outcome which I can anticipate in events and okay so the thing when you say okay so you fight a person and you inconvenience them to an extent and that's my condition I don't really understand how that works at a mechanical level and it seems in particular incompatible with full knowledge of the military capacity of the state and government and maybe someone can explain that to me but because I'm really confused. If we look at whatever so let's see what he did very successful and what he did very successfully was the killing of soba and it's not easy to kill Bill that's going to be passed into law there's so much momentum there's so much money going to it that so much political will to get something passed into law it's really hard to kill but he did it and if we watch and take what is there as on face value he didn't do it by street protest per se he was doing it through a very scientific method of getting the voters to speak to their representatives and also the big money corporations to show their dissatisfaction to the political representatives at this point it gets boring because it's politics but there was a systemic way in which he did it and so understanding the law making process at least I can talk about that although it's not politics if anybody here is a political science person please raise your hand and save us he basically was able to have a political system and able to manipulate how the result came out it's really wonderful if he had been alive to be able to do that and so many other laws that could have been changed in a very similar way I think the great thing is that they've done it, they've opened and all of us saw how it was done and now we have to find a way how we can do that in Singapore because we know that if we go outside the presidential palace Istana and we carry black guards basically we get arrested that has already been shown and then after you get arrested he really does much but what he did seem to be very effective so if there's something that we can learn from that and I'm not a person who can advise on that so I can't help you but if there's anyone who understands politics and technology as well we need there's no way of predicting outcomes we have to go into this knowing that we have no idea exactly what the outcomes of our actions will be and that's fine we have to learn to live with structural uncertainty and actually one of the reasons that I think that this is good that there is uncertainty that's good that we don't necessarily know exactly how things are going to come out is that we it turns out are much better at living with uncertainty individual humans and networks of humans are much better at living with uncertainty than institutions and markets are than the structures that we see oppressing us in the world and that is an advantage that we can can very much use to our left there's a question over there Cedric has a thing Cedric turn on the mic how is it you're going to have to project your voice to me Cedric with no knowledge I think it's important to work on this and I'm thinking about but the big thing for me can you come here the big thing for me I suspect that most of us here are technologists am I right and we've spent our time talking about the technology that Eric's painting what his life story was so Eric for me was a huge inspiration I think for Vikram as well both of us shared very similar views on him and we followed him much like you know fans of the wrong fans or followers of users but what I want to remind everyone of at least I mean we have lots of ego discussions but Eric was a beacon for a lot of people because he showed that people it's time sorry Eric was a beacon of hope for many people because he showed that with the right amount of leverage and with the will to believe that you can change things you can actually change things now I know as technologists we often like live in our little startup of a privilege where we can work everywhere in the world and we think that we just build the solutions to the problems and someone somewhere will apply those solutions to so forth problems but Eric was very inspirational for me because he showed that it's not enough to just build solutions you have to go on and actually look for ways to hide that to the world I think I would like if you remember that a lot of his life story was just the will to believe that you can change things and that you have a responsibility to change things instead of just being a technologist and like living in your little privilege bubble thinking that you would change the world by sitting down and writing code because some problems in the world are not like I mean you can't solve them with code or with protocol and that's what I have to say Okay so as an externally declared Aaron's work Down Boy I should mention one of the thoughts that he had about affecting change in your job in the year or so before we lost him Aaron Swartz was active on a community web blog called Less Wrong and one of the things he wrote about and one of the things he really cared about there was optimal philanthropy and the goal there is saying I have a shit ton of cash or maybe I did but then I was not lost right and I wanted to give this away in a way that does the most good and there's this organization that says okay so I'm going to investigate these thousands of charities and I'm going to take maybe two that do the most good that most effectively in the utilitarian sense do well in human lives and I'm going to count these out and in the case in which you're in the middle of the world and you like working in technology directly rather than leveraging that in other areas and you have people who are using your stuff there's an opportunity for you to affect positive change without really changing your lifestyle I think that's kind of cool If we look at something like Skype has had an amazing impact on the world and it has meant that we now see international remittances people sending money back to their families at home I've gone from being well under half of what International 4A was to now being something like eight times and you can trace that directly along the line of communications across nations getting cheap and so this is a really interesting example of where having a structural shift that's purely technology driven has completely has had massive political implications so I don't think it's true like, you know, we're going to start up, right Colwood? Do that, absolutely do that I'm not saying that you have to go be a protestor in the street because that is not necessarily the best way to change systems that affect us but understand the world that you want to live in a dream of what that world looks like and then figure out how to go build that world don't just build the things that are easy that are getting to make you money that are going to let you IPO build things that actually actively build the world you want to see whatever they are I have a question for just the end of the session here thank you very much for your very rousing for talking at the end Ella and also for the big group but eventually we will have a very homophobic homophobic debate and good questions from the floor I would like to say just one thing and that is you really I think it's echoed here as well you can't change anything by sitting below everything has to be done but I don't know and that's why I thought that even though I don't want to defend myself it would be great to talk and see what came there are a lot of things that and for me to talk about for example no one talks about so in order to discuss what matters connect people you can't see a way to start just by talking that's actually how this team came to power like all of us have more than 24 hours we got nothing together because we had to shift the space we actually organized this in the under 24 hours which was quite like a short repeat and then thank you very much for also talking about the session there it is if you let me speak please come up talk to them while the rest of us come


students, we are talking about different type of graphs and in which situation you have to use which graph the next graph is this is called heretical graph and the purpose of this is that the one layer, the third layer, the multiple layers the information is stored in this way and then you can represent it in this way and in the variety of situations these graphs are used these are simple to understand as compared to many other forms or types of graphs in this you can see that the entries within the data set they do not need to have a dependent relationship but that is something different but the real thing to understand is that this is your top layer this is next, this is next and this is next this is first, this is second, this is third, this is fourth and below this there may be more we have multiple depending upon the situation but this is just to understand this is called multilevel hierarchy this is organization's hierarchy this is a family hierarchy or your geographical hierarchy basically you can see this in any way we have multiple examples available which we develop for understanding as per your time if you are talking about a time period you need to see it from another angle this is a simple representation when you store the data when you do indexing or partitioning you do partitioning of the data in the same way for example this can be your year this can be month this can be day and this can be your hour this can be minute and this can be second this is complete hierarchy and this is very unique knowledge to understand similarly you can see it from another angle at the first level it can be your country then it can be your state or province then your city and then your to the basic level this can be this can be your home address the purpose of sharing this is not just to use it for family tree this is an example basically it is a company the CEO of the company then you have different departments head and so on and so forth same concept is being used when you start developing your data structures when you practically work on it you will understand that this this is a hierarchy concept is so important how is your efficiency when you query the data in SQL or in any other so one thing is that first you do step by step first you come here after that you come here if your data is not properly structured but if you have partitioned the data then your query is so in that case if you have to go directly here then you don't have to follow this route you can access the data directly at this level and this is a very unique feature of different databases partitioning is available the purpose of sharing this is the concept of hierarchy in data science or databases this is okay this is just to explain you or to develop your understanding but if you look at the hind side or back side when you define the data structure one thing is called schema the data base the data engineers and data scientists and data analysts this is very important to understand the schema of the data schema is basically a combination of different tables and structures so in that partitioning is one of the very very critical features the efficiency of your data I have run a report because of that when your query is not structured properly then you come here then you come here but if you have properly denormalized the data then you can directly come here so you can imagine if you have millions of records of the data and if you have to direct it from each line where your target data then how much difference it will make similarly I have given you an example of root, edge, parent child, leaf node all these are different concepts and one more thing if I look at the last so this is their pre-application if you take an HR application in HR applications when you define things on the back end so this organizational hierarchy or organogram also says it automatically makes the application you have defined it in the department then you have defined their relationship with whom you report right if you are CEO normally in a big organization you can report a CEO 8, 10, 12 people in a small organization you define the HR application that the manager reports to the general manager and the general manager reports to the CEO so when you design something it is called one-to-many relation right so the one-to-many relationship basically is the same thing that you define below it is called scoreport it is called scoreport these people scoreport these 6 people scoreport so this is your HR in this system you have coded there is a different technique but after that these people below this you said these 3 people scoreport okay below this these people scoreport these people scoreport like this you link them with each other right when you link then features are available in the software when you want to print the entire organization chart or organogram so it takes information from the data that who is on the top who is on the bottom and mostly the charts in the organization from the manager level or the particular department each department also prepares an organogram so this is how it is seen but the data base structure point of view that is a different application this application this can be managed from the front end when you design an HR application as an analyst the developer but these are the things and you can use them as a data scientist when you design data structure you can use them