Hey, what's going on, man? Hey, we're back for the third season. New Jackthriller City, man. Y'all give it up for yourselves, everybody. Yo, we got a real special show today, man. But first, man, give it up to my DJ, DJ Samoa. Let's go. Hey, y'all give it up to my co-host, little Playboy. Yo, yo, yo, what up? Give it up to my other co-host, Gigi McGuire. And give it up to my other co-host, Eric Adachi. Yeah. And y'all give it up for the guest of the hour he hails from Adamville, Georgia, man. This is one of the funniest niggas in comedy right now. He on tour right now with all the big names. 85 South, Mike Helps, you know what I'm saying? Shit, going on tour with Martin Soong and whatnot. Y'all have seen him on everything.   He could have been on Def Jam. Oh, God. You know what I'm saying? I think he just did come up with you for real, though. In Vegas, like I said before, he one of the funniest niggas in the comedy. You just see him on ReshapPeopleMeet.com, man. Y'all give it up for money, bag, mafia. Let's go. Man, money bag, what's up, baby? Same ball, different draw, man. Man, these same goddamn balls, different draws. Hello. How many draws you got at the house now?  That's why I said, you know, put you in it up. Doing something new. I've been free balling lately. I can dig it. I can dig it, man. How's that, like, changed your life and whatnot? And when did you know? You know what? It's over for the e-draw. It's over for the e-draws. I'm not interested in my draw. You canceled your draw. Yeah, man, I can navigate too far. They went too far. I can navigate better without them. You know what I'm saying? One hundred percent. Yeah, man. One hundred percent. You got there, but the only problem is the pressure. The pressure, man, when it comes to them goddamn, because I'm a sweat-paying guy myself. OK. I'm a sweat-paying guy. I try to always make sure I got a big enough sock. So, you know what I'm saying? You know, I'm fooling them. I'm fooling them. Trigger them. You're dick-fishing. I'm dick-fishing. That's exactly what I'm doing. OK.  You got to go get a BDL. A DDL. Yeah. It's a DDL.  It's a DDL. I know somebody that got one of them. Hold on. You know somebody who got one? Yeah. This is a real thing. Yeah, I know somebody that got a DDL. And what does this mean?  That's when they give you lipo in any region where you have fat and they take that fat, harvest it, and put it into your butt.   And it's going to make it, it's going to give it some girth. It'll make it a little chunky. So it's going to, OK, so not lymph? No, not lymph. Not lymph.  Well, so you don't need it then.  You still want to be able to fit. 100%. I definitely want to be able to fit.  You must have quit. You must have quit.  That particular point, then it's time to strap on. It's then it's time to goddamn strap on. Money bag, man. So, you know, like, let's start for when does comedy start with you, bro? Really, all my life, man, I've been silly as fuck, man.  When Niggas started saying it could be, you know, you can make money from it, then we started, you know, transgression from that. He did stand up first.  Go, but from the jump, we was doing skits on vines. That's where it all started. Do it for the vines. Do it for the vines. And that back, vines were like, was it four seconds or six seconds? Six seconds, you had to be funny. That's why I said vines were different. You really had to be funny in six seconds. Yeah. You had to be different back then. It's hard to be funny in six seconds. It's hard to be funny in six seconds. Well, it ain't hard if you're really funny. If you, if we talking about skits, though, on the phone, like, naturally funny, that's different. But I'm talking about to actually make a skit in six seconds. Like, that's a lot. Money bag, why do you think vines don't exist no more?  You know, the same way we're from vines. That was a different time and era, though, man. I mean, it's technically TikTok today. Yeah. That's what vines is, TikTok. Six seconds just ain't enough. Six seconds. Clearly. When you're paying for it, it is.  Too shaggy. Too shaggy.    We was doing both like Vine and Instagram.  That's like Instagram today. That shit's so watered down, bro. Like, they won't let you be raw as you want to be.  I do my thing. I talk crazy.  Do you care at this particular point?  Yeah, yeah, I do care. I actually miss shooting how I used to shoot. But it's like, I'm thinking, like, why put all that thought into something that they're going to get deleted anyway? You know what I'm saying? So I just don't even take the time out of doing no more than to start doing. I'd rather do TV, man.  What about you two? You don't want to just do it. You two the same way?  Only fans. It's hard to monetize. Only fans. You say whatever you want on only. Language. It ain't all about porn, though. You can do it. Yeah, you a freaky frog. No, that's the truth. Oh, for real? That's the truth.  Is people doing comedy on there? It could be a joke. I would think about doing comedy porn. Comedy porn? Yeah.  No, no, no, like, naked on stage. No, not like being naked, but comedy porn, like change it up, like change it. Like robling? No, like being sexy, doing telling jokes.  No, no, no.  So wearing lingerie and sexy. Yeah, and you ever like knock, knock. Who's that? Oh, sexy voices, sexy girls, and making it funny. Like, who's that with? You ready to come? I don't know. What? Yeah. Ready to come where? Yeah.  Oh, my f- how'd you know? These people will pay for it. It's the lady that just show her toes and get paid like 300,000 she said a week. But just show her. I mean, well that's understandable. Niggas have foot fetish.  Niggas on one of your jokes. For only fans? Man, play with your coochie. Play with your coochie. Oh, damn. Play with your coochie. Don't even talk for real. Just play with that one. I don't even need to. Ace. A Gigi got only fans.  I have only fans. I have only fans. Let me ask you this. Tell her what you're doing on your money back. Would you subscribe?  Like, I'm not doing that. Yeah, I'm not subscribing. But I'm going to do that on my only fans. I'm not doing it on Instagram. But on only fans, I'm giving sexy. I used to be a stripper, so I'm still dancing. I got a pole in my house. I'm doing poletrics. I'm twerking. And you know, it's giving body. I got a little something happening. So, you know, it's full nudity. However, I am not a porn star. I've never done. It's full nudity.  I'm butt booty naked. You want to see? Showing the hoe. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So we could, for research purposes. So it's definitely giving, it's definitely giving nude. However, I am not, there's no point. I'm not sucking. I'm not fucking. I'm not licking a coochie. See, I can never subscribe to no one fan, bro. What about, what about playing with your squirting online? You squirting online? So, so basically I do custom orders. So you can get a custom order. Hold on, cut, cut, cut. Money bag, can you give her a custom order? Yeah. Go ahead. I want you to fart in the jar, put the top on it, and send it to me. I will do that. How much you doing that for? I want you to catch a fart and paint it for $4,000. I will do that. Got it. Done. You're going to paint the part. I'm going to do what he need me to do. Damn. I'm trying to find a picture where I'm actually nude. OK, here's one. Yeah, pass it, picture plate. Pass it on. Jack can't. Yeah, tell me what's going on. Get that for me. Tell me what's going on. It's worth the subscription. So that's what you're going to get just for the subscription. You're going to get that on my timeline. God damn. All right. But in order to get anything more than that, it's a. Hold on, hold on. You see it, Jack? You see that motherfucker, boy?  In order to get anything more than what you see right there, it starts at $150 a minute. Minute. So you getting naked for $100 off the real? I'm getting naked like that for the whatever the subscription price is. I don't even know what it is right now. I think it might be $17.99. I do a lot of sales.  It just depends.  It's just. He just blown on it. I don't know, man. I can't subscribe. I haven't found one woman I subscribed to because I just go on my phone and you know what I'm saying? Just got you. So something. You ain't never subscribed to OnlyFans, though. Nobody?   Come on now. I'm going to pay this for $19.99. I'm going to break the dementia code for you. Go to Reddit. It's already on Reddit. It's already on Reddit. Hold on. Everybody on Reddit? A lot of 90% of OnlyFans is on Reddit.  Let me be honest. I done looked up a couple of. Hence why I'm only given what I just said. Did you see my vagina? No. No, you did not. I was fully new, but you did not see Lil Miss Cockatoo. Right. I had it. You was it? How you hide it? My vagina. You took it. I did took. Honestly, I absolutely did took. Wait a minute. I got to go back to it. I'm gross. That's all right. Do you know your co-worker? Now, if you want to see it, you can pay more to see it. But I'm not just going to give that for the subscription. You didn't see it like the print? Yeah, but me, that's all you're going to get. But they want to see the whole thing. They want to see the paint. They want to see the clip? Some people are only fans. They want to spread that thing, hoping. Slapping it with everything and they up underneath their bed and in a sock drawer. Oh, well, the toys. It get real, right? Yeah, yeah. Compared to that, that's like this is very model for women that got like vagina, her style, her vagina kind of be up. So she can tuck her mouth so little, you going to see everything in one shot. I need to see that. It is pretty fat. Yeah, she can tuck up. She got like me.  Yeah, I love it. It got to be fat. Look, look from the Peaks under dress. I'm tucking it right now. That ain't sitting on that. It's like a fish. That ain't sitting on the whole thing right now. But yeah, I'm here for all of you, man. It works for me, you know, to each their own. It works for me. It definitely pays some bills. Hosted by Gigi McGuire. Show me the hottest Gigi. Let's go. Who's coming with me? It's me, your girl Gigi McGuire, aka Miss. Show me the money. It's giving Jack's beauty of the week. And today we have here with us the lovely Mac Mustang. Come on, Mac Mustang. Oh, I'm getting in. I'm getting out. How you doing, girl? I'm good. How are you? Can I ride with you? I'm looking good. You look gorgeous. Thank you, honey. It's getting hot. We're going down this questionnaire with the starting with the basics before we go a little spicy. So it's giving age. I'm 33. 33. Ow. Sign. Aries. Aries. Fire. It's getting hot in here.  Period. And what's your hometown? I'm from Atlanta, East Side. Oh, come on now. Decatur. Where's Greta, baby? What's that? Always. Come on. Rene High School. Latonya. OK. Oh, damn. She said get it right. All right.   I'm bisexual. Yes. Yeah.  I'm bisexual. Right. But when I'm on the side, I'm on the side. So have you ever been in a relationship with a woman? Yes. For my longest female relationship was three years. Oh, wow. So you really? See, I'm like fake bi.  But I don't want to be in a relationship with a girl. It's different, but it's not different. I can't really do it no more as an older woman because. Because what? Because I can beat them up. We don't need no domestic charges, OK? We need to stay all the way away from White Street as possible because it's dangerous over there. Oh, we got a live one. All right.  So we're going beyond just position. What is your favorite thing to do when it comes to sex?  Oh, oh. You got to be good at it. I'm top two and I'm not two. OK, because when you love something, when you love doing something and you enjoy doing something, you are very, very much better. It's giving people a practice until we can't get it wrong. Let me get it right. And Gigi, Gigi, she just said she top two. She said she top one. She said she is the one. She said it's giving one of one. Before her and none took off, don't meddle this. OK. God damn.   So what are your thoughts on the whole 50-50 relationship situation? Are you splitting bills in rent with Bay? I don't even. I don't have thoughts because I don't think about that. OK. Oh, damn. So it just ain't happening. We keeping it far away from Mac. I play my part and he play his part. His part is to provide and protect. And my part is to nurture and take care of my house and our children. I'm here for that. I'm here for that. There's so much going on these days when it comes to that conversation. And there's so many women who are like, yeah, I'll do that. I feel a lot of times women that automatically jump on the side of, oh, well, I don't want no nigga taking care of me. Are you going to pick me? No. It's given they've never been given that opportunity before. Damn. They have not had to experience the know that that's what they're just picking the side that they always been on anyway. Talk that shit, man. All right. Mac aggressive. Have you ever faked that orgasm with a woman? That's good. I can't recall because if it's not him. You splitting?   OK. Like I was a little too drunk and just passed out.  Have I ever fell asleep on a dick?  Yeah.  You know, we snoring. I like this girl. Trobbering.  I like the girl. He move it, so we just. OK. I get back to it when I let go. OK. All right. I know that is right, honey. Miss Mac Mustang. She breathe through her nose. OK. Oh, I like it. So let's go. Let's keep it in sex. Let's go with what would you say is your greatest memory in the bedroom or in anywhere having sex?  I was having sex with the guy. I would probably put him at the top. He probably was my. The best. The top of the top.  Oh, yeah. While we was fucking. OK.   Yeah. Oh, yeah.   I like that. I slept a little too. What? All right, girl. It's good talking to you. Let's give the people your info because you know they going to be checking for you, girl. So let them know how they can find you. I am underscore M.A.C. underscore Mustang on all platforms, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, everywhere. So some money bag. When did you start like noticing that? Yo, I'm popping now. I'm popping now. Where are you? What time is it? And what's the epiphany that you have? Oh, really, when people would say like, yeah, like if my sister be like, yeah, I told them, you my brother, they didn't believe me. I was like. Hey, that's the best. That's the best.  I was like, yo, yo.   That's real.  Because nobody don't, nobody believe my mama. Right. Nobody believe my mama.    Don't do my eye like that. Don't do my eye like that. Hey, man, hey, it is what it is. I don't like it. It's very embarrassing.      The craziest thing that a woman ever did to get your attention, money bag. What's that? To get my attention. To get your attention, man. Big, I'm talking about a fan, crazed fan.  No, you can't get no crazier than that. Listen, never met her. OK. And sent the police to my house. Never touched this lady, nothing. You sure after a drunken night, you might have been with this lady. I never touched this girl, ever. Did you know her at all? I did not know her. So how did you dispute this? Shit, I had to go take a whole fraternity test.  I swore on everything about a baby. I didn't even know this nigga's name. Wow.  Woo, woo.  Didn't have to go to court or none of that because the baby wouldn't mind when a girl came back.  So she was banking on you, forgetting that you slept with her.  She wanted me to see her in court. I guess that was going to be the first time we met. Got you. You think she was doing it for clout, trying to catch an Instagram moment with you? Probably. Ain't no telling. Ain't no telling. But yeah, that's just outlandish, brother.  That's crazy because I was in a relationship at the time. And how did that affect your relationship? You know. He said at the time. At the time. OK.    I was waiting under there.  OK. Got you. Got you. Are you a relationship guy, man? Or are you a... Man, I'm trying to be married, man. I'm tired of being a hoe, man. That's the conversation I was ready to get through. Why?  I want to be married, man. Let's talk about it. Yeah, man. Like a lot of this, man. Look, man. Put us on. Can somebody out there right now is thinking in themselves? Man, money back has it all. All he does is do comedy.  What would you say to that young man? Nigga, you ain't wrong. But I'm tired. So I'm trying to...  You was right. You was right. Yeah.  I'm trying to... I'm trying to be somebody hood, man. Tricking off.   A lot of people say, this is popular right now, that the dating pool is full of piss, and do you think that you could actually find this woman? And how do you expect to do that when everybody knows you and everybody want to go home with you?  That's by one, man.   The 90-day fiance is going to... Yeah, I'm going to go Middle Eastern somewhere where they know how to let a man be a motherfucking man, man. I'm the one standing up, do the pissing, and I do the fucking. We can't be two alphas in the month.  Can't be two alphas.  I ain't without all that, man. It's crazy you said that, because when I was at the barbershop today, they had this exact same conversation.  That don't sound bad. It don't. That don't sound bad at all. I'm confused. Not confused. I'm just trying to understand when you say you want somebody going to let a man be a man, so you're dealing with women that's not... You dealing with women that's not letting you be manly?  We both came with a draw, y'all. You know what I'm saying? I need a motherfucker... I'm not right on that. Now, like, a woman that's not letting you to be the man, what is she doing that's, quote, unquote, manly? Put the ladies on. Like, bro, you... What's the word I'm looking for? Like, you just... What's the word I'm looking for? I'm a little high. It's okay. We low. When she was aggressive, she... You challenging me. Stop challenging me. What's a challenge? When you talk about a double dare, or what do you mean? Listen, at the end of the day, let's say you and your... Let's say you and your girl in the house, any man here, you and your girl out. Somebody kick the dough in. Mm-hmm. What's she gonna do? Hey, you... Somebody go down there.  That's what you're supposed to do. Do it all the time. Hide behind me all the time. Not just when your life is dangerous. Yeah. Oh, now it's time to be a man. Oh, when it's time to open the door, it's time to be a man. When it's time to pay for something, it's time to be a man.  You know what I'm saying?   I don't want to get...  What should I tell her? She... I mean, you shouldn't have to go there. She should know her place and her role and how to play it. Easy to say. But what if you did it with a woman who just ain't never dealt? She's been... She's been the dominant one in all her situations. That seems like what he's dealt with. But the thing is, it's... You saying she should know and maybe she just don't know because she's never had a man to take control of certain things.  Like, hold up. Don't talk to me like that. I'm pretty sure the nigga done said that before. Yeah. These women are grown now. I'm to the point where... I'm just using that as like a... Listen, I'm the nigga that say it. I'm pretty sure another nigga probably did it physically. I'm the nigga that just say it. You know what I'm saying? All right. Okay. At the end of the day, it's just a respect level, man. It's a respect... I'm big on respect. I respect you. I feel like everybody have roles. A car has a steering wheel, motherfucking glove part. Like, we have roles. Everybody have roles. Ain't no car got two steering wheels. That's true. That's true. That's okay. It's a steering car. Well, hold on. I didn't see that car. It's a dropper's head. It's a flag. That is so true. I get it. It's a lot though with women, man. Especially... I know. Niggas be trying to be patient. And women do too because you have so many women out here nowadays that they've been the man in most relationships and in the household. And you know what I'm saying? They've been the man of what?  Go scissors. Wow. Go do that. Like, quick, if you know you are a masculine woman and this is what you used to. Stop coming to masculine men with that energy. Like, go get you a girlfriend. Go scissors. Go do that over there because it ain't going to never work unless you check yourself first before you get into a situation like that. I mean, I can get that, but I'm just saying though, will you be patient with her and try to... If you know that, right?  And she just... And you see it. Sometimes they're not even aware of it, but they're just regular. You can be patient with her and just be like, hey, talk to me. That ain't how you talk to a man. That ain't... Do, do, do, do, do, do, do. I done been there. I done tried to be patient. And that's when they get to niggas yelling that they want me. They don't start off like that. You know what I'm saying? They get to a point where we keep telling you the same motherfucking thing. It used to be, baby, can you please be quiet? Baby, can you please stop? And you don't get it. So now I was like, shout it, shit, please.  Now, this the type of energy we got to give it all. So what's the buildup? So, and I'll be trying to tell women if we masculine and you giving us masculinity and we know we more masculine than you, we always have to top that. And then that's what makes it toxic because you're not in your soft era. I want to be in my sweetheart era, a gentlemen era.  But give me a reason to. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. I'm dead where I'm at. I'm going to be soft. I'm so tired of being so... You feel me? Like, I don't want to stand on normal business. I'm going to never thought that. Not like that.  No, you can do it. Please do it. Let me flow. Like I just said, I want to flow on the boat. Okay. Let me ask you a question. Like, do you feel like a woman that... I don't want to say have a lot of body. A woman that was real promiscuous, right? Do you feel like that make it hard for her to date?  Yes. Yes, it do. How do it affect her? First of all, just spirits. Like, she done been with a lot of men, all them things being inside her body. So, I believe, I co-heartily believe in things like that. Like, you have them soul ties, them spirits, and y'all going to incline together and all that stuff messed up. So, she just... And women, let's just say she been promiscuous. She been with that man, that man. We... We cope with our man. Like, if I got a man and he smoke cigar, of course I'm feeling on how to smoke cigar, too.  This nigga, he was like soccer. Now I know how to play soccer. Now I know how to ride horses. This nigga, he a green dog. Now I got some freesties for sale. This nigga, green dog. You don't took all that in.   So, you saying when you mix all the nuts together and you create a whole new nigga and whatnot, you taking on different personalities and what... So, you become a whole different type of polar. Not even... Not even aware of it. I think so. You're 10 polar. You're 20 polar. Yeah. She is. She is. She might not know it, but she is. And she wondering why she can't find herself or be the woman that the man that she probably really love now and want to sell her down with. She can't be that woman that she want for him because, and then it affects her if the man know her reputation too. Okay. Some men can deal with that. Some men can't deal with a lot of people saying he had a girl.  I can deal with it too. Yeah.  But I'm trying to figure out how many niggas I'ma have to deal with mentally. Oh yeah. Yeah. I never looked at it like that. But it is a lot. I can deal with it if I don't know these niggas. If I know these niggas. Oh yeah. If you hit a homie, it's a dub. Yeah. If your number, if the niggas' numbers in my phone, then it's a problem. But what? You just know of the man. Oh, that's cool. He can talk about me behind my back. No, no. That's different.  As soon as you get out the tub, it's a dub. Yeah. Motherfucking dub. Yeah. I'm dating this really cool chick right now.  Where you work at? Say what? Where you work at? Where? You know, it's not a pronoun. It's really a girl. Okay. It really is. Yes. Not a pronoun. Yeah. She's a blackjack dealer at a casino.    What about the other shit, man? Like, do she cook for you? I know. Do she take care of you spiritually? Or is that for you? I was gonna say that, too. Oh, my God. I was gonna go there. I was definitely gonna go there. Okay. But your wedding vows gonna be crazy. They was. They used to be. Yeah. But now, you know, I don't know if I actually want to go to the actual ceremony or the traditional way of getting married, but I could definitely be with someone for the rest of my life that shares these type of traits and whatnot. You know what I'm saying? Because I didn't like... I got married in divorce before.  It's expensive for no reason. Cost a lot of money. Yeah. It's not cool. But just being able to say, hey, man, so, shit, how long are you gonna be here?   But yeah. I don't... Being... Having a past, that don't bother me at all. It doesn't bother me. It's just how it affects you the day moving forward.  You know what I'm saying?  Or, you know what I'm saying?  But back when I was married, the lead singer and so, for real, he had DMed my wife, right? Damn. Yeah. And so I checked the nigga.  My girl DMed my wife.   Like, have you ever loved someone so much you thought you'd die, nigga? Yeah, nigga, he gon' tell me. He gon' tell me that was his assistant and whatnot.    What he DMed her? He was like, hey, what's up? Shout out to Shorty because we was in New York at the time. Shorty. Yeah, yeah. He was like, yo, he just said, what's up? And the what's up was, that was too far for me. Damn. That was too far for me. You know what I'm saying? She got pictures of you on her page and everything. All that. We was in the same default picture. Oh, yeah. It was disrespectful at that point. Yeah, it was disrespectful. He said he was trying to get my attention. What? You got it, nigga. You got it.  I came to the concerts and all kind of shit, man. We had them got down, talked about it backstage and stuff. He apologized.    You got kids? No, I don't have kids. I pull out. I got a condom on right now. You just never know. You just never know. This man's so funny. Hey, what's up, man? You know what time it is. It's foodie call.  So today we got Gigi McGuire and we got another comeback because it's comeback season with Chef Torres. Yo, Gigi, tell us what Chef Torres got for us today. Show us the money. It's your girl, Gigi McGuire. Miss, show me the money in the building. And one thing for certain, two things for sure, I'm always ready to eat. I stay ready to put something in my mouth. It might be some food. It might be some digger.  But today we got some sushi and I like these options that we have going here, especially the raw ones because in the words of ODB, you'll be able to be like it. Raw. Just joking.  Condoms first. Shit. Okay. It's getting hot in here. Hey, Chef. How you doing? I'm good. Pleasure to be in your presence. It's a pleasure to be in yours as well. I love me a man that can cook, man. I got it all. I got it all. Put it all where it's supposed to be and put you straight to sleep. It's giving the idea. So what do you got right there? So we got your spring rolls. I like to consider some healthy options.  Let's make sure it's going to do something good. So we're going to spring rolls that involve vegetables, fresh ingredients, cucumber, avocado, carrots. And what lady doesn't like a little crab meat? Right, Gigi? We love the crab meat. I had crabs one time. Never mind. Don't even worry about that. But yeah. Crab's you had ain't had no meat. They ate all my meat. They tried to eat all my meat though. They tried to eat all my meat. Yo.  You got to take them claws off. Oh yeah. Crab's no claws. So if you're going on a foodie call, let me ask you this. Gigi, you just tasted that right there. And what do you call that, Torres? Spring rolls. Spring? And we got a vegetable roll as well. Got you. And what do you feel? How do you feel about that, Gigi? Well, one thing for certain. Two things for sure. I love me a nice, big, long cucumber. OK. Cucumber challenge. So in a carrot as well. So I'm here for the veggies. I'm here for the rice because we got to keep it nice. And clean. And clean. The crab meat and the cream cheese. We love a little cream filling. I'm here for all of it.  Absolutely. I'm going to call the chef. So it sounds like a whole other foodie call. You making it a double foodie call.  This is giving a little lunch meat, a little lunch meat foodie call. Two dates in one day? I love it. It's giving a happy hour. Got you. You hard to keep up with Gigi. It's giving, let's get things started. But I might need me a good tomahawk by the end of the night. Oh, damn. All right. Bone in. Damn, Torres, you going to accommodate right there? Absolutely. Okay. Tell them how they can follow you, Chef Torres. So you can follow me on Instagram, at chefteres, T-E-R-E-S, not a Z. You will travel right for that foodie call? Oh, I'm going to travel. I'm going to show it right at your doorstep. Hey, we got to bring you back, Chef Torres. That's right. All right. And that's your foodie call. A goddamn featuring Gigi Maguire. Let's go. So look, I wanted to ask a few seconds ago, you said you don't care about how many bodies she had, right? Yeah. But bodies on top of bodies. Jack said it just can't be nobody she knows. So would you rather have a girl that date? Would you rather have a girl that date? I mean, they had, let's say, 60 people, right? You know, none of them. I'm lying, bro. A girl that only had three people and, you know, one of the three. Man, listen, at the end of the day, we all got motherfucking problem, man.  Oh, man. That's a good answer. That's a good answer.  Probably. I can't judge you.   You just give it away. Like, ain't nothing, you know what I'm saying? That's not true, bro. You can't do that. Man, please. You can't do that. 60? Yeah, dawg. I know a lot of people that got 60 bodies in you and your 20s. Hold on. How old you is? I'm 35. Okay, you 35. 60 bodies divided by, let's say, 15 years. That ain't that much. That ain't that much. That's like averaging about four bodies a year. That's a lot, nigga. Four bodies a year, bro. Four bodies for a woman? Four bodies for a year, yeah. That's a lot. Four bodies a year is not crazy, bro. For a woman? Bro, that's four seasons. Every time the weather changed, she got a new nigga. She got a new nigga. Every time the season changed, she got a new nigga. And she did that for you. She put a lot of miles on that ball for her. Come on, some ladies. Y'all are doing that. I have a question. When you say she put a lot of miles on it, right? So, let's say you have a young lady who has only had two sexual partners in her lifetime. She's 30 years old, right?  Right?  They're really theoretically.  Okay. Now you have the girl who's in her 30s and she didn't have 60 bodies. What's the difference? Man, you got 60 bodies. That's 60 different dicks. Straight legs, hooks, that small. If the pussy going to Pound Town, it's going to Pound Town. If it's going on the private jet or on Delta first place. But what you said about mentally earlier, too, though. Oh, baby, that's different. You got to understand. The mental part of it. The mental part of it, like what you said earlier. So, that will be the issue? Or it's the different dicks that's the issue? As far as... What we talking about now, as far as what? As far as the difference. Which one would you rather? I'd rather have the...  That would just make more sense. No, it would. I hear what you're saying right there, but you know what it is.  Inside relationships, when you get a boring abit. And this one I want to say, because if she only got two niggas that she's ever been with in her life. She ain't never been nowhere. She ain't ever did nothing. She don't know nothing. So, now her back art.   That's the bad part about it. That she ain't had no experience. Come on, now. That's the bad part about it, though. You can teach me that mouth work, bro. You can teach me that. When you get the train in the motherfucker the way you...  Nothing. Hold on. Hold on. Time out. You mean tell me 60 niggas and you...  Why? Because I'm still learning stuff. I mean, you learn something new every day. Kinda. Not with that, man. What else... What else you gonna do with two niggas that are understandable?   Sixty-nine.  Like, you done did that. Sixty people. Come on. A Jeffrey Dahmer. And that nigga gone... You know what I'm saying? Out of 60 people, bro. When a woman says...   And whatnot.  But that'd be the point of... You know, niggas, we conquerors. We want to be the one to say we did something new. He did it first. So if you got 60 niggas and I'm like...  Ew. Just how deep you gotta think out of 60 niggas. Ew.    Ew.  That's gross. Jack, listen. I'm just saying for the sake of doing something new. This how deep you gotta be, bro. All right, this is the last thing I'm gonna say about that. Right, that was crazy. The last thing I'm gonna say about it is... He said that was crazy. You get a different experience from every person you would, right? No. You don't get a different experience from every person? My problem is now I feel like I'm running into the same motherfucking person over and over and over. Every time you have... What kind of experience do you mean sexual? No, I'm just saying when you are with a different woman, are you single right now? You're dating? Let's say you got two different girls that you're going out with. Yeah, I'm in a relationship. All right. So... Thank you. So... Thank you. I'm in a relationship. There you go. What's up with that? Yeah. Who this is? Who this is? Hypothetically. Who's gonna do it? I didn't know she was gonna do it. Hypothetically. I'm just asking. Hypothetically. I'm just asking. Hypothetically. I'm just asking. Hypothetically. And this is to all of you in the room. I'm in a relationship.  The experience you had with date one, even if y'all go to the same restaurant and all of that, the experience is gonna be different, right? But the experience is always gonna be, to a certain extent, it's gonna be good because it's new.  The possibility doesn't leak.  Of course it's gonna be good in the beginning. I'm talking about when you dealing with people for the long haul. Like, then what? It should get weird. But in the beginning it'd be fun, right? With everybody.   I say 80% of the time. 80% of the time. She's saying it's different because of the... The interactions and the interactions, the energy, the chemistry that you have with each person is gonna be different.  You're not gonna have the same feeling that you have with this girl that you have with that girl. And it's a catch-up 22. But when it comes to women, we have the same experiences. John ain't gonna treat me like Paul treated me. But you know what? And I'm not gonna have that same energy with them. I get that. That's coming from a woman. Okay. So they just don't get that. Yeah. We different. That because, yeah. Man, are we thinking about a six at the end of the first day?  I ain't even be thinking about that. On the first day, you ain't thinking about hitting it? You ain't hitting it? Really, if I'ma take you out, I look at you. It's bigger than that.  Like, you gonna know what's going on.  I ain't stressed by no puts. I feel like the initial introduction always has a little bit of sexual connotation laid out. I mean, we all know that women...  You ain't about to try to talk to a woman if you don't feel like one day you want to see how she feels inside. Like, you like the way she looks, so you want to eventually get to see how she feels inside.  Might not be the day. But he possibly could get the pussy, so let me go and see what he... Give him my number and see what he's talking about. See where we can go. But as women, we get shamed for that. I ain't thinking about having sex. As women, we get shamed for that. Oh, no, like I said, on the third day, I don't be tricked. That's a foodie call right there, my boy. Listen to the point. Now, I don't even get my name out no more. Man, we text on Instagram. But you were in a relationship. Three, four months. Right? Please, listen. Jack, come on, come on along with what we got. Come on along with what we got, Jack. Come on along with what we got. I thought we was building. We tearing me down. We building. We building. Okay, cool. Yeah, I'm in a relationship. That was that feeling. Yeah. I love that for you. Stop it. Stop.  A lot of people don't deserve that. That's true. And I'm to the point where you might not deserve it, Dick.  You might not deserve me. It's sad. So at what point does a woman deserve you? When she get that act.   But for me to really, you know what I'm saying? Move the way I move. Okay.  Yeah. That's when she got me. The 100%, 100% man. Now you on some major tours right now, bro. Like, what's the difference between rocking a comedy club and an arena? Everybody will tell you, bro, that I feel like you feel the same way.  You know I did stand up.  Just different, bro. Don't get me wrong. Doing them arenas is amazing, but it's like all the work that paid off. But them comedy clubs, that do be the work that pay off for you. It do. But bro, it ain't nothing like the motherfucking people stomping on the marina code. Yes, sir. That should get kind of scared.  It's different. Yeah, it is different.  And I look at it both on the same, but... Did you ever think it was going to get this far? Hell yeah. It ain't, it ain't, it ain't... Never been enough in your mind. It ain't nowhere near as far as it's going to be, though, when it's all said and done. What it look like? What it look like in the end for you?  You talking about gold. I might buy heaven. But that's what you say. Baby. Damn, how much heaven costs? Okay. God, God, you hear that? You know what I'm saying? You got a for sale sign up there? What's going on? What's going on, man? What's going on, baby? You got to get on Zillow to find out. You got to get on Zillow. What you thinking? Small.  What is heaven's area code out this motherfucker? Tell me. We going to find out, though. I can dig it. I can dig it, man. Yo, so what's non-negotiable when it comes to dating, bro? Non-negotiable? This might be typical, but I don't like no liar, bro.   Do you give them an example where it definitely counts as a lie? It's a lie. Like, you know, lie, nigga, not telling the truth. Like, if you doing something with other people and, you know, you would lie about it. Like, that's, I can't deal with that. Too many diseases going around each day.    If you're going to definitely be cheating out there or, you know, being promiscuous, make sure you're putting on a condom. You know, the Buddha hold different, though, because you can't really, I don't... Nah, nah, that's the worst of the worst. That's the worst of the worst. I don't know, because I never... I ain't gonna...   That's worse. You feel... Because you don't... Come on, now. My best, okay. This is my dog. You know, I don't even know where to stay.  You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna keep it a being. Yeah, the wrong Buddha. Oh, man. All right, we're gonna get too deep into it, John. All right, cool. We're the only two niggas on board with this conversation. Come on! I mean, I can't join in, because I'm still, like, version of that. For real? Mm-hmm.  You ain't letting nobody goddamn get in the hole? Mm-mm. They try, but just... It's a good time. It's a good time. I heard. I'm here for it. That's what I heard. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I heard. What's stopping you from success? Niggas says success. Well, like, right now, like, my current partner that I may have, like, now, like... They here. Yeah, because he might be going hard, but... Right now, he's still on the list, but... I don't know if his penis will be it. Hm?  Oh, God, damn. Too big for that booty hole. Mm-mm.  Yeah, please. Can you help her? You gonna help me? Yeah, please help me. I need nothing else. So we're all familiar with Lisa Ann, right? That's my homegirl. Yeah. Yes. So come on, Barbara. Look at her. Yeah.   Just to the point where I couldn't fit Dick in in a moment. Okay. I mean, we know it was open. Oh, yeah. It got the...  So I asked... Let's welling down just out of here.  What's a big dick?  Big enough that he just came ramming...  You know what I'm saying?  Yes, ma'am. So what Lisa Ann told me was... I don't think they... Tell me. Besides... That's why I was trying to see what was going on. Because I don't have none of these problems. So you can be having vaginal sex and oops and slip up and end up in the booty hole with no problem. Yeah. Well, no, no, no. No, I still... Yeah. I still know it. Not like that. I still have to work my way in. Okay. But it's not... It ain't crazy. No... Okay. I've been told I have a real pretty dick. So one potato, two potato? Three potato? Yeah. But I would say about one potato, like a potato, like about right there. Okay. About right... Yeah. Right there. It's not really baby jarring, but right there. Right there. Okay. So these tips that she gave me was, for one, of course we know to relax. Right?  Right? That was the first... Oh, for real, like... Tighten up. Don't take it like that. For one.   They actually come in a one, two, three kit, where you can get like small, medium, large. And the third thing that she said is to use silicone-based lube. Now we all know we love KY Jelly with the blue top. Right? That's our go-to. Well, at least was my go-to when it come to the booty hole. Okay. But that's water-based. That's lube. You don't want to go water-based because it's going to dry faster and it's not going to give you that slippery slippage that you want, that the silicone base is going to give you. Okay.    We do all this at the same time. Yeah, this is one serving? No. This is one serving of dick? No, no, no. You work your way up to it. This is one serving of dick, right?  All of that.  If it ain't that big. Oh, it's not for me.  I personally like a butt plug, though.   My nipple's hard. The butt plug, you just put it in? You just put those in. I mean, I put the lube on it first. And they scratch your whole... You got to get you one that's appealing, like, you know, one that light up. Like, get one that got your blood pressure on it. Okay. I have a set of three of the chrome ones that got the little rhinestone on the back. Yeah.     Lighten up.   No, it's a hole. The back part is like a circle like that. That's the part that's out of your life. It's like a big-ass rhinestone. Let's stop it from going in. And let's stop it from actually going in. Because if it go up in there and it gets lost, then you're gonna have to put it in the yard. So, two questions. Is it reusable and do you use the... Can you clean it in the dishwasher? Yes and yes, actually. It is reusable. Yes and yes.  I'm personally not putting my butt plugs in the dishwasher. I'm gonna just go ahead and wash them out in the sink with some antibacterial soap. A lot of women don't understand that.  That's what I'm talking about, bruh. They don't know that. A lot of women don't know that.  It's too big because somebody holds puppets. You can put your whole hand on them.  Permit the frog. Do something else. Something tight.  This ain't pulling on nothing. Yeah. What? I'm saying when you say it don't pull it, like, A2B, it's too wide. I wouldn't even say too wide. I don't get that. I'm saying like, too... Too dry? Dry. Oh, too dry. That is a thing. No walls is not a thing.     Absolutely. All that. So, but then a woman would be like, yeah, nigga, you don't turn me on. Had me feeling lame for a long time. Like, I thought it was me. That's not right. That's not right. Yeah.    Premenopausal. Premenopausal.  Never. Never. Come on, man.  Hello. Please, please, man. People are crazy.  A lot of women don't understand it. They got good, woe-out pussy. Yeah, that's true. It's some good, woe-out pussy.  You can't feel it.   They think they be doing something. They think they be doing something. That's not good. Sometimes it'd be good, woe-out pussy. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah. Money bag, have you ever faked a orgasm? Hell, yeah.   I will pull out of it.  This was so good. Why do we fake a orgasm? Because you know it's not going to happen or because of the smell or what?   Blowing your house down. Knowing we ain't got that. We ain't getting nowhere.    I'm finna spit right on that back. Wow. That's the first I've ever heard of that one. Have you ever thought, have you ever thought of pretending like you was going to skeet on a girl and you peed on her? Yeah, most definitely not. Okay. The fuck? Just me. Just me. Okay, got it. No peed on a girl in the shower? I do it all the time. I think that's a nigga thing. Can we all agree with that? Yeah. I pee all the time. So we all agree. Like niggas a doll for real. We can really be claiming our territory in the shower. Yeah. But it was- Listen, I did it. She ain't like that. I've never heard this. I've heard it. I was heavy on- You been peeing on Erica, you just didn't know. You been peeing on. But I was drinking heavy- A nigga peed in my bed before- No, niggas peed on your bed. If you and a man were in the shower before, nine times out of ten, he peed on your leg and it just blended in with the water. You had no idea.  Yep. We want niggas to smell that pee like- Yeah.  Yeah, yeah. He marked his territory.  He in her coochie hair. Mm-hmm. Oh, my God. This is just- Never happened- Never happened to you? Mm-hmm. No, niggas never peed on my coochie hair. Probably have. Y'all know. I don't have no coochie hair. Y'all know. Oh, damn. I do. You got a landage room? I have nothing. It's completely bald. I had laser hair removal. It don't even grow no more. Hold on. So that's how I get rid of it. Mm-hmm. So laser hair removal. Laser hair removal. What is this consist of and doesn't hurt? It feels like you're getting- Popped with hot bacon grease for a few seconds. Like tattoo removal. Yeah, like tattoo. Exactly. It's the exact same laser. Oh, you got laser too? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not down there. I'm talking about my tattoo. Oh, okay. Got you. Yeah. But it definitely- It kills the follicle. And it turns your chocolate chip cookie to a sugar cookie. AKA no dark spots. Well, I'd be wanting my- No dark spots. I'd be wanting my hair. Yeah, the dark spots come from- You know what? Nothing's wrong here. You know what? I heard that even though what people don't understand is that the vaginal hair is- Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But the way we set up D-day, they think that, you know, it's unappearable. Yeah, because they put on Instagram that you shave and all that stuff. But really, why do you even think you put the hair down now? But we- But we knocking to everybody at P.A., y'all? No. I mean y'all are, but that's a different conversation. Man, I know we do, but- I know we do, but- Okay. But it's not good to have your hair just removed, like, totally, though. I'm gonna tell y'all we're really not- And it's good for like the most of a woman. It keeps- You know what I'm saying?  Like when he eat it.   Like, I want it to smell like that. That marriage- Not a stank ass, but I want it to smell like- Okay, this ass- That marinated. That marinated.  Because it's like, it's your- It's good. It's your own flavor.   Yeah. Yeah. That's that- And vagina's supposed to be like vagina. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Women taking all these- Yummies. Yummies. Well, I ain't gonna name no brand, but taking all these- Supplements? Yeah. That work. What does it work? Supplements. Yeah, supplements. And they- And- Taking all they- They stuff out of they- You're disturbing your natural aura. Yeah, they juices. They diluting. They juices. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? If they make sense. And that's not really good because vagina's supposed to smell like- Vagina. Vagina. Like coochie.  No. No. No. So, hold on. So, when it smells like water or when it tastes like water, is that a bad thing? It's not a bad thing, but she didn't- They be rapping and bragging about it now, like- They never memorable. Rememberable about it. She didn't did something to it.  I'm GG. I'm GG. I'm GG. Now you want to hold back? No. So, the supplements and the probiotics and, you know, the 100% cranberry juice diets and, you know, this is a depository or two that you can insert. Yeah, yeah. So, remember, I just told you she didn't make a lot of water. But not- That too. That's important as well. I tell women to drink coconut water. Oh, coconut water is great, too.   Okay. Yeah. So, on that note- Then don't have 60 bodice. Don't have- Because I was just about- I was just about to- This is- This is the last question real quick, man. So, once again, four seasons in a year, four niggas a year, that's too much. Once again. Is everybody saying that? Yeah, that's too much. Yeah, I say that's too much. That's too much. Yeah, I can't. Yeah, that is- I mean, me as a woman- 15 years straight, too. That's a lot of wear and tell on the product. That's a lot of wear and tell on the product. That's a lot of wear and tell on that product, bro. Gigi, where you at? Come on, Gigi. It's okay. I'm a straddle defense because I am a- I am a never-say-never type of woman. Don't ever say never. And I can't say that. I mean, we- We in January, we're in February, and I've only had one sex partner for 2024. Okay. But Valentine's Day is in a couple days, and if he don't come right, that's gonna be Valentine's Day. So that's gonna put me at two, and we ain't even hit March yet. See, I don't even celebrate Valentine's Day.  Go ahead and do whatever you want to do. Y'all gonna do it anyway.  That's crazy.    I'm getting it. Valentine's Day. Yeah, for sure. Okay, that's right. You in a relationship. I mean, come on now. I'm sorry about that. Before, nah. Come on. You know me. I'm quick to say that. You a lover. You definitely a lover. Yeah.  I do. I'm very lovey-dovey. Very. Hey, Money Bag, if you don't get anything for Valentine's Day, is it a deal breaker? Hell no.   All year round, if that's the most Valentine's Day. Do my Valentine's every day, baby. You feel me? That's sweet. Ain't nothing to go buy some flowers and take you out to eat.  What the life at you? Nothing. That's a everyday curse, right? Nothing. He said the life. That's the anytime's day. You know how I get out.   This is my dog, man. He know how I am about anything. Money bag.  It ain't gonna be the last time. Is anything you want to say to New Jack Thriller City before we get out here today? I appreciate you for having me, man. I appreciate you for pulling up, man. I appreciate you, man.  I will be back. Yeah. Come on, bruh. That's what I'm talking about, man. I love you, MB, and congratulations on everything. Congratulations on everything. I can't wait to the world really get to see your full creativity, because I dealt with you for a couple of years. Yeah.  No. Hell no. Why would you say that? He don't say that, because he got that. Man, look. Man, look.   No, this is my like my brother brother. You know, we was like in lockings together.  Never, ever. Never. Never. None of them. That's princess, right? Princess. Whatever. Princess, yup. You said, okay. Yeah. And so we used to be in like lockings together, like doing... Doing COVID? No. We used to run people, ratchet people. The ratchet day. We really did. We really put in work. That's what I'm saying. I got you.  You know what I'm saying? We used to tell people I'm a real comedian. Ain't nobody wrote no jokes.   Come on now. We're seeing Money Bad and the things he used to come up with, man. My brother's so creative. He's so talented. Oh yeah. And like he said, this is only the the beginning of it. The world hasn't seen anything yet. And I just want to give you your flowers. You know what's true, man? Happy birthday, man. Queen of the goddamn side. Queen of comedy. Thank you.  Like I said, you know we've been here for ten years. And everybody elevate, man.  You are. All of us. I don't know nobody like the real ones. There was an out crew. Well, couple. Kid Capri. He ain't.  Let's go. Quarter season. Let's go.


I think we'll go ahead and get started. The people who wander in late are going to miss the best talk of the day. So let me begin by introducing myself and laying out a little bit of context of how we're going to spend the next 45 minutes or so. My name is Max Spievak. I work for Red Hat. I'm also a Fedora project contributor. There are certain points during my talk today where I'm going to talk to you as a Fedora person, and I will be standing as such.  I've been working at Red Hat for about four and a half years. I spent two of those years as the Fedora project leader, so I took over that role just before the release of Fedora 5 and continued in that role until just after the release of Fedora 9, almost exactly a year ago. For the past year, my job has been to manage Red Hat's global community team, so that's a team of people who participate to a solid extent still in Fedora, but also part of what the community team at Red Hat tries to do is ensure that Fedora isn't the only example of Red Hat's commitment to open source. So we work in other parts of the company as well. However, this talk today is about Fedora, and so that's what I'm going to focus on. So let's lay out a little bit of context, because I found it interesting in Joe Brockmire's open Susie speech an hour ago. He put up a slide that talked about some of the sort of large goals of the Open Susie project, and one of those goals that he said was to make the easiest use desktop for anyone in Linux. So the point I want to make here is that there's a whole bunch of people in the audience, and if I were to ask each and every one of you what you use a Linux distribution for or what you use Fedora for, I'm going to get a lot of different answers. And that's fine, because Fedora can serve a lot of different roles. Maybe you're using it in your ISP as a server farm.  Maybe you're an animation studio that's using Fedora to make movies that make hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars around the world. But the project itself has to have a small set of goals that define both what it is and what it isn't so that as decisions get made and as resources get prioritized, you can make progress toward those specific things. And Fedora, I think, is at a point in its life where what is important to it is increasing the size of the open source development community around the world. We need distros, and we need companies that want to spend a whole lot of money marketing Linux and getting as many new users into Linux as possible. And I applaud folks like Ubuntu that seem to have done a great job with that. Fedora does not compete directly in that space. I want you guys to picture a big, giant, reverse pyramid that represents the potential population of the open source community. And at the very top of that pyramid, you've got a whole bunch of basic users who are simply consumers of a Linux distribution. It doesn't matter which one it is. And then of all of those users, some percentage, and I would argue to you that it's a relatively high percentage, if they run into a problem, they're going to go on to Google or whatever, and they're going to search for their error message, and they're probably going to find some answers, and they're going to solve their problem. Great. Until that moment in time, everything that user has done has made their computing experience easier only for them. There's a pretty big gap in this pyramid to the next step down, which is the moment in time in which a user takes an action that turns them into a participant in a community. And that gap is where Fedora is really trying to focus, in my opinion, right now. There's other Fedora contributors here. Maybe they have different ideas. But I think that's kind of where we're focusing. So getting those users who are solving problems for themselves to do something as simple as file a bug report or post a little how-to of how they've solved their problem on a forum, the moment that action gets taken, all of a sudden a user has become a participant. And that is the big gap that you have to achieve. And from there, it becomes easier for people to go from being someone who files bugs to someone who submits patches, and someone who submits patches to someone who wants to maintain packages. And then you've got people who are building infrastructure, writing new applications, developing new features. Once you make that first leap, it becomes so much easier to pull someone completely into the open source ecosystem. Fedora strives to be the place where that kind of work can happen and where people who want to fully engage in the apprenticeship that is open source development can get into a community that allows them to succeed. We'll talk about that a little bit more in this presentation. So I will very quickly say, when I introduce myself, you'll notice that nowhere in my introduction did I say that I am a incredibly smart, technical person. So if you've got questions at any point in this speech, shout them out. If it's technical question, I'm probably going to turn to Tom Calloway here, who's a Fedora engineering manager or one of the crew in blue and let them answer your question about exactly which internal driver it does, blah, blah, and blah, blah. But feel free to shout out any questions or comments at any point in time. For the rest of this talk, I want to break it down into four categories. And these four categories are ones that were chosen carefully by our Fedora marketing team. And we call them the four foundations of Fedora. Again, I didn't realize the room was as big as Wembley Stadium, but I've got some stickers here. And if you want a Fedora sticker, you can come to the Fedora booth and we'll give them to you. They say on them freedom, friends, features, and first. Yeah. Those are the four foundations that we believe represent kind of the core philosophies that Fedora is built upon. So I want to talk a little bit about each of those four things, kind of say what it means to me, and then give some examples of what's going on in Fedora right now or recent achievements in Fedora that relate to those four buckets. And hopefully, you'll find it interesting and we'll go from there. The first one that I want to talk about is the Freedom Foundation. Because I think that's the most important, right? We're all here because we believe very passionately in free software. And Fedora's commitment to free software, I would argue to you, is among the strongest of all of the Linux distributions that are out there. And Red Hat's commitment to free software, oh, hold on. Red Hat's commitment to free software is that Red Hat recognizes that it is building its business around a giant community. And if Red Hat wants to be able to look people in the eye and say, we are the leader of free software in the world, then Red Hat has to make the commitment to ensure that its participation in the free software community is genuine and honest and strong. So we'll briefly talk about licenses and spot you can jump in any time if I say something wrong. Fedora is very active in making sure that all of the code that goes into its package, right? All of the packages that we put into the distro and all of the upstreams that are building new code are contributing code to the distro. We want to make sure that all the packages in Fedora have a free software foundation or OSI compliant license and spot himself spends a large amount of time working with upstreams that want to get code into Fedora or other distros where there are licensing problems and tracking down the copyright holders, helping explain to them where there might be problems in their licenses and getting licenses changed so that the free software commons that everybody can draw from is as large as possible. That's all in there. I'm not really going to go into licensing too deeply here, but I wanted to make it clear to anybody who doesn't know that Fedora holds a very strong line about free software and we're very passionate about it. The more interesting aspect of this freedom foundation with regards to the Fedora distro as I see it is the manner in which our community participates in building the distribution. If I had stood up here three years ago and tried to give this talk, it would have been littered with a to-do list of all of the reasons and all of the places where the Fedora distribution isn't as open and isn't as community friendly as it needs to be. But today, we can stand up in front of you and we can proudly state that about two-thirds of all the packages in the Fedora distribution are maintained by people in our volunteer community. Anybody in the world can be a maintainer or a co-maintainer of any package in Fedora. All they have to do is be able to step up and do the work required to maintain and own that package and they can do it. What's also interesting is that the release engineering processes and the infrastructure processes around Fedora have been specifically architected over the last couple of years and re-architected in order to make the community engagement as vibrant as possible. Fedora is the perfect example of a distribution that eats all of its own dog food. The build system that we use to take our code and create source RPMs and take the source RPMs and create binary RPMs is completely open sourced. I guess Joe was talking about the open Susie build system a little bit. I'll talk about the Fedora one. It's called Koji. It was written in conjunction with some Red Hat employees and some community members. We took the good parts of the Red Hat build system, the stuff that was generic, the stuff that wasn't needed for Red Hat Enterprise Linux. We streamlined it. We worked on it with our community. We added features. We built a new build system that anybody in the Fedora community can use. It was so good, in fact, that the circle goes round and round. And Red Hat is able to take the Fedora build system that it helped invest in building and, over time, replace more and more bits of the old crappy Red Hat Enterprise Linux build system so the ecosystem shows. Fedora, I've got to go put my Red Hat on again. By investing in the Fedora community and doing everything that we can to put the ability to innovate into the hands of the most passionate and most educated people in the world who care the most about it, Red Hat gets more efficiency in its own processes. Being a good citizen and a good contributor to the open source community repays Red Hat tenfold for its contributions. Moving on from the build system, because Jiren van Moywen is in the room and I like to embarrass him, is the system by which we actually compose the distribution. You've got to take a big pile of RPMs and create some sort of ISO out of it that can do something. And again, we see the openness of the community really coming into play here because the main compose tool that Fedora uses is something called Pungy. It has a nice API. Pungy is great, by the way. Simple command line. You really almost don't have to know anything in order to successfully run it. You just say, build me a distro and you give it a kickstart file or a pile of packages and it'll go ahead and do it. And that's what the Fedora release engineering team uses to build all of the different versions of Fedora that we released to the world. But it's got a really nice API on it and it allows community guys like Jiren and a group of people called the Fedora Unity Project who want to build upon that work to make a graphical interface on top of it. So someone who wants to just go through a wizard and build their own distribution can do it. A guy named Bill Nottingham, one of the most senior engineers at Red Hat and in the Fedora project, did a lot of work in taking all of the logos and the trademark issues around Fedora and getting all of the trademark and logo stuff into one package that can easily be removed and replaced with a generic package so that people who want to create downstream derivatives of Fedora can do so as trivially as possible. Because all of the tools to build the distribution are open and because we've gone the extra additional step of making it very easy for people to rebrand and reuse the distribution and remix it without having to worry about legal and trademark issues, we see a very vibrant release engineering and custom engineering community sort of building up within Fedora. On the enterprise side, I'm shadow man, I'd like to sell you $10 billion worth of software. On the enterprise side, we see a group of people inside of Red Hat using these ideas in a project called Fincrust that's sort of a Linux appliance building tool. I've now reached the level of my technical knowledge about it. But again, ideas that are happening in the community, ideas that came from the community that we supported bringing value back to the business which allows us to continue to support the community. Well, that's what I wanted to say about the freedom point. One fourth done. Any questions or comments? Anything anyone want to add from the Fedora world? The next of the four foundations that I want to talk about is we talked about freedom, now I want to talk about first. And to me, first represents innovation, okay? And it is the goal of Red Hat and the goal of Fedora to be the most innovative community in the open source development world. And we believe that we are. So this is where, this is the part of the speech where I might need some help from my friends. I want to talk very briefly at a relatively high level about some of the technical advancements that are seen all over the Fedora ecosystem, or I'm sorry, all over the open source ecosystem that have come from the Red Hat and Fedora community, right? The first one I want to talk about is a new ex-server project called Wayland, right? This is relatively recent in the last, I don't know, maybe nine months or something like that. You see a lot of it in Fedora 10, if you've used Fedora 10. We've got a program in there and it's when the operating system starts up, right? Right after you see the BIOS, there used to be a program called Red Hat Graphical Boot, it was the little Fedora logo and it would switch from all the different modes as all your services start up, it would run down the whole thing. That's the old world. We replaced that in Fedora 10 with something called Plymouth, right? Which takes advantage of the kernel mode setting feature that some of the newer chipsets have, and Wayland, which is the ex-server that takes advantage of this, so that the entire boot process now is significantly faster, more streamlined, right? There's a feature in Fedora 10, Fedora 10 and Fedora 11. It's a continuing project through the current two releases of speeding up the boot cycle. The goal, I think, for Fedora 11 is to get a 20-second startup, right? From turning on the power button to GDM, you're ready to log in, everything you need to go in 20 seconds. All of the development behind the scenes on Wayland is going into that and we're pretty confident that because we're doing that development openly, it's going to be something that benefits the entire free software community, right? Another thing that Red Hat and Fedora have invested significantly in is development around the Nouveau driver, right? The reverse engineering of the NVIDIA 3D drivers. And again, these are developments happening in the core functionality of Linux, right? X, or I guess, would it be fair to say that it replaces X? I don't know. No, around X. That are going to benefit the entire community, right? Red Hat and Fedora are leading the way here. We think that's a valuable thing to do. The other place that I think it's a useful place to talk about, because we see it being used more and more in all of the infrastructures that different Linux distributions are rolling out, is virtualization, right? It's been a major thing for a long time, ever since VMware got us going years and years ago. But the inevitability of open source, right, always said that VMware's proprietary model would eventually be replaced by an open source community, which can do these same things better and faster and for less money. And here we are in 2009, where we've got a progression. If you look at the history of Fedora from Fedora Core 4, all the way here to the alpha of Fedora 11, you've got a long progression of progress in the virtualization space, starting with the work that was done on Zen way back in the day, right? But let's all be honest. What's the leader in virtualization right now? It's KVM. So what does the Fedora model make possible in something deeply technical like virtualization where you've got different competing solutions even within the open source ecosystem? How does Fedora help if you're a developer? How does Fedora help you make sense of what's going on here? And work with technology that changes very quickly? Well, Red Hat has invested a lot of its own engineering resources and built community around various virtualization projects like Libvert, right? Which tries to consolidate a lot of the virtualization calls that need to be made into a basic API. Vert Manager, which begins to give you a graphical interface to use and manage different virtual machines, right? And moving on even further, in the recent history we're starting to see in the Fedora project called Fedora Cumulus, which begins to take advantage of the virtualization technology that exists and build sort of an infrastructure cloud which we're going to use both in building the Fedora distro so we can make it available to a huge community of hundreds and hundreds of people who are building thousands and thousands of packages. We can manage all of this stuff and because it's been built with an abstraction layer on top of it, right? As certain people go and use KVM, we're capable of supporting that. As certain people go and use Zen, we're capable of supporting that and I've got to put my hat on. The value for Shadowman is that you've got a huge community of developers who are playing around with these competing virtualization technologies who are helping to ensure that the manner in which Red Hat is building APIs and general means of using virtualization is sane and makes sense and can support something as robust as the Fedora infrastructure so that by the time we take all of this virtualization technology and stick it into Red Hat Enterprise Linux, at which point in time we're committed to support it for seven years, we're so much further down the road of knowing that it's stable, that people want to use it, that the engineers who work for our customers aren't gonna look at their managers and say, we bought this crap, right? It's gonna be something that our customers are able to use and that we're capable of supporting. In the Fedora space, however, what's exciting if you're a developer is that you've got a six month release cycle, right? In the United States last year, you might've heard we had a presidential election. Over a billion dollars was spent by two guys, campaigning over the course of, I don't know, it took them three years, right? So that one person could get elected president. In Fedora, we have a technical election every six months, right? Every time we throw out a new distribution of Fedora, everything is kind of up for grabs, right? And it's a chance to look around the open source ecosystem and decide what are the most compelling pieces of software that solve various different problems and pull them into the distro, right? And the cost of doing this, because we allow the community to lead us and the developers to show us what is most exciting, what works well, where is the mind share going, right? Because we allow the community to sort of be that massive electoral body, the cost of developing an enterprise Linux distribution, the cost of developing an enterprise Linux distribution that anybody can use drops very far, right? The price of failure is lower. And because of that, the entire open source community, because let's not forget, there are derivative downstream distributions of Red Hat Enterprise Linux as well. The entire open source community gets access to enterprise quality software in theory at a price much lower than what it should cost for proprietary software companies to do the same thing, right? And that larger circle that isn't just Red Hat, but it's the entire open source community working together because everything is GPL and everything goes back upstream, that gives us the energy that we need, right? To continue to threaten and push the proprietary companies out of business, hopefully. I could ramble on a little longer here, but instead I'm just gonna name a couple of other projects, right? Upstreams that have been adopted across various Linux distributions that have been led by Fedora and Red Hat to try to underline the point that, again, our ecosystem is trying to attract the developers who are interested in getting their hands dirty and doing all sorts of new things, right? So you've got Pulse Audio, you've got Network Manager, you've got Package Kit, you've got Debus, you've got HAL, which is now being replaced by Device Kit. These are all things that are way over my head, right? But these are fundamental pieces of the Linux system where innovative work is being done within the Fedora community and where we're looking for more and more developers to help us test things, to help add features, to help really be a part of it and cut their open source teeth in our ecosystem so that we can all then go forth into whatever companies we go to and be more equipped to spread the open source message. Any questions, any questions that I say anything wrong in the technical world that anyone wants to correct me? Yeah, is that, Joe? Well, yeah. Is that, is it putting the companies out of business as a goal or just having the alternative? No, I think, yeah, I was a little careless with my words, I suppose. I think the goal is to show that the open source model is clearly superior, right? And that you will see as new companies and new technical companies begin, they're gonna say, well, it's blindingly obvious that adopting an open source model and investing in and joining the community that already exists is gonna make us so much more efficient that sooner or later, the guys that are graduating from Harvard Business School are gonna assume, yes, you know, I have to build my community in an open source way if I want to be relevant. I think that's a better way to phrase it. And again, it's a good question. And I don't wanna drag myself too far off on a tangent, but a point that I used to make in an older talk that I gave is that for a lot of us developers, right, open source participation is a very philosophical choice. We believe very deeply in free software, and that is why we do it. But when we talk to the guys that wear their suits and ties, right, they understand that and they respect that and they appreciate that, but we also need to be able to show them that it's a sound business investment, right? That they're going to make more money and their company is going to be more successful if they embrace open source. And that's part of what the Red Hat Community Team's job is, right? Within the Fedora space, we've got people who drink the Kool-Aid and who believe it very passionately and they're gonna participate because it's in their blood, right? And within the Red Hat space, we've got a lot of that too, but we wanna make sure that we are consistently reminding everybody within the company from the top all the way down to the bottom that what makes us a special company and what makes any company that's an open source company special is because not only do you acknowledge what open source communities can do for you, but that you buy in completely, right? And that you don't go halfway, right? You don't just throw your code up on a website and say, well, I guess we're an open source company, right? If you're not going to build community around it, if you're not gonna actively manage those communities and if you're not gonna try to allow those communities to leverage the investments and resources that a company wants to make, then you might as well not do open source at all, right? I think it would be better to go, it's an all in or all out proposition, right? Either you gotta be an open source company and go all the way or you should just not bother at all. If you go halfway, I think you give up all benefits of, you give up all the benefits that in theory having proprietary IP could give you and you get none of the benefits that open source could give you. So while I'm on this topic of community, I'll move to the third of the four foundations that represents Fedora.  We talked about freedom and we talked about first, now I wanna talk about friends because so many of my friends are here in the audience, right? This is the less technical part of the talk. I already talked about the fact that about two thirds of the packages in Fedora are maintained by our community. I wanna talk briefly about a couple of other pieces of the Fedora community that I think provide the ecosystem around the distro that folks might not know about. Joe did a little bit of this in his talk as well because the distro is great and it's critically important but the Fedora project is so much greater than just the CD that you can go get at our booth. The Fedora infrastructure team, I think is a shining star in our community, right? Because it embraces perfectly the community building tactics that we have tried to perfect and implement over the course of the last few years, right? It is almost entirely volunteer driven and it is also entirely open, right? Every piece of software, every single piece of software that's used to keep the Fedora project running is completely open source. We won't use anything that's not open source. We completely eat our own dog food. We've got a system administration team that basically follows the sun, right? We've got volunteers all over the world who are part of the Fedora infrastructure team. If a server goes down in the middle of the night in the United States, in theory, there ought to be someone somewhere where it's daytime for them who's gonna be able to respond to that message quickly and in theory, no one should have to wake up in the middle of the night in America. In fact, our infrastructure itself is co-located around the world and we've recently in the last year so built up a pretty nice data center in Germany that helps us make us kind of fault tolerant, I suppose. And the Fedora infrastructure project, from the perspective of someone who wants to participate, I think is an excellent place to get started because we've seen some of our recent success stories of really brilliant new contributors to the project come through the Fedora infrastructure team, right? There's a guy named Ricky Zhu who's now 18 years old who started contributing to Fedora when he was 16. He came in through the Fedora websites and the Fedora infrastructure project. He's just started his first year of university and he's one of the most important people in the Fedora infrastructure project. And I know there's stories like that all over, the open source community, but I think it really represents for any of the people in the audience who are still in school and looking to get their first job in open source or looking to make the first step of what's gonna be a long career in open source software, I think it shows how these communities, if they're built right and if the leaders understand that they have to think about building community and not just doing things themselves, it shows the incredible potential for someone at a young age who otherwise wouldn't be able to get an opportunity in some normal sort of corporate situation to build up such a huge amount of experience and an authority that when they're ready to get their first full-time job, they're gonna be years ahead of most of the other people that they're competing for. And I think that doing that encourages such a positive feedback loop that it's important that all communities work on that because it will continue to increase the size of the open-source workforce, right? The last thing I wanna mention on this sort of education or young contributor point of view is we have a project in Fedora called the Fedora Scholarship. And we give it out, this is the second year that we're giving it out and the application deadline for it in fact is sometime next week. I think it's the 15th of February, next Friday I think is what it is. If you are somebody or if you know somebody who is very active in open-source, preferably very active in Fedora but very active in open-source, who is starting their first year of university later in 2009, so like the fall of 2009, encourage them to go onto Google and type Fedora Scholarship and read about it because this is something that we're gonna do every year and we want to basically give an incentive for people who are right at that point in time where they're gonna start their university career who have shown interest in open-source. We wanna help them pay for their university bills and encourage them to stay in the open-source community as they go through university. So I wanted to kinda make that little sales pitch. The last thing I wanna talk about in the friends section of my talk here is an area where I think Fedora needs to use community to improve over the course of the Fedora 11 and Fedora 12 release cycles and it's one of the goals of Fedora all the way from our Fedora project leader Paul Frildes on down and that is to improve the quality assurance portion of Fedora, right? One of the things that we have struggled with in Fedora over the last couple of years is this challenge of getting stuff done versus building capacity that allows more people to do stuff, okay? Building the capacity is fundamental to community, right? You've gotta build a infrastructure in which people can participate before the people can participate.  But they're going to reach a limit very quickly where they simply cannot work 24 seven and get everything done that needs to be done. So in recent history, I would argue to you that Fedora has fallen into this trap over here, right? Too much time needed to get the basic QA for the distro done, not enough time available to build a community around Fedora QA. It's improved, right? Over the last year, so we've had some people that have stepped up and rebuilt Fedora's bug triage community. We've had a guy named James Laska lead a series of Fedora test days, right? That have been very good. We've had basically an IRC channel and a specific topic for each of these days. We've tested things like PyKickstart, the EXT4 file system in Fedora 10. We tested all the full disk encryption and its integration into the Fedora installer, right? So we've seen enough of the seed of the fact that with the right ideas and a little bit of time spent, you can build a community around QA. And this past week is very wonderful for this project. Guy named Adam Williamson, who used to be with Mandrieva, joined Red Hat and his job is going to be to build a community around QA, specifically in the Fedora space. So that's another area critically important that there's a lot of opportunity for participation. So I wanted to be sure to mention that. The last thing that I wanna talk about is the last of the four foundations is features. So we've got freedom, we've got first, representing our innovation, we've got friends, representing our community, and we've got features, representing what on earth have we actually produced for you? And yesterday, I think it was yesterday, now Thursday, two days ago, Fedora 11 Alpha was released and I wanna quickly run down some of the cool things that are in it and then encourage you to go and download it. I mentioned this earlier, the goal in Fedora 11 of getting startup time down to about 20 seconds, right? The first cut of that, that we started in Fedora 10, continues in Fedora 11. A lot of the way they're going about doing this is trying to identify the places where IO really tends to block during the boot process and eliminate that if you wanna know more AskSpot. Again, the first pass of device kit, which as I understand it is sort of a rewrite of how the hardware extraction layer is in Fedora 11. EXT-4 is replacing EXT-3 in Fedora 11, little crufty, EXT-4 is some better performance. There's also the first parts of butter FS, I guess that's how I say it, I don't know how you people say it, but if you wanna try that, that's starting to get ready in Fedora 11. The feature that I like the most is something that we call Presto, what it really means is Delta RPMs. So let's say OpenOffice, for example, releases an update and you gotta download, you run YUM update and you've gotta download some 20 megabyte RPM, but the amount of code that actually changed in that 20 megabyte RPM is only a few kilobytes because it was just one security update. The Delta RPMs feature is gonna make that possible so that you don't have to download the entire new update and have 90% of what you download be exactly the same bits that you already have. So if your bandwidth isn't great, I think that's a really compelling feature. It also, it just feels more efficient and I kinda like that. So there's also a lot of you guys, I know I discovered this a few years ago from the Windows side, there's a project called MinGW, which allows you to do cross compiling of applications so you can write your Linux application or you can write your application in C, you can use GCC to compile it for Linux and instead of having to rebuild it on a full Microsoft stack or something like that, you can use MinGW to build the Windows executable of a free software application that you've written completely in your Linux system. So if you're an engineer who has to do, who has to build applications that run on multiple platforms, here's a way to do it without having to spin up an entire Microsoft stack. Python 2.6 is in Fedora 11, as well as GNOME 226, KDE 4.2 and XFCE 4.6, the KDE and XFCE are a release candidate or betas right now but we're also still a few months out from Fedora 11 finals so all of those projects will continue to mature over time. In conclusion, well, before I conclude, are there any questions? I can't hear, that's why I'm walking toward you, not to throttle you, yeah. Thanks, one of the questions I have is what you guys are doing specifically around KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.0 series because with OpenSUSA, we've had a large number of KDE users who want to stick with three, we've had a large number who want to be on the cutting edge so I'm curious what Fedora is doing to solve that or what are you guys doing for them. Spot, do you want that? Can you answer that? You probably could answer that better than me. We have no intentions to going backwards and providing the three environment from a compatibility perspective because we feel strongly that at this point, KDE 4.2 is reasonably featured comparable with the 3.5 series and where there are gaps, we'd much rather encourage contribution to fix those gaps than have people just stay stagnant on the old stuff. Right, right, right. Cool, well thank you. Michael Thiemann, who basically created Cygnus, is here somewhere, so yeah. So I'm gonna wrap it up, I'm almost done. Oh, yes, you go, then I'll wrap up. You talked about Zen and KVM earlier on. Some of us who are dealing with virtualized environments preferably would like to have a common environment. For instance, Zen in Solaris goes with Zen to a certain degree in parallel to Solaris containers. So the question is, is Red Hat and Fedora going to support Zen in the future or are you going with KVM on it? Well, let's be very clear. Red Hat already supports Zen in Red Hat Enterprise Linux and is therefore committed to supporting it until the end of life of Red Hat Enterprise Linux which is seven years or whatever. Fedora never makes a commitment to support anything for longer than 13 months, right. This is part of Fedora's value proposition, right. We believe we can be innovative because we don't have a large legacy set of stuff that we have to support. So Shadowman says, I would encourage you to give me as much money as you possibly can to support Zen because I will do it for you. I will sell you all the Zen support you like. Fedora says, we're gonna take advantage of the fact that we've got VertManager and LibVert and APIs that allow us to switch out any virtualization from Zen to KVM or anything else that we want underneath and the user never has to know about it and Fedora is gonna continue to do the best of what exists today. So that's all I got for you. All right, I am out of time now. So let me quickly say a few words about our Fedora community in Europe because it rocks. If Jono Bacon were here, he would say it's metal. We got a great group of guys here and girls that keep Fedora running, that operate all of the major events and the next big place that Fedora is going to be is gonna be at Linux Tog in Berlin in June. We're going to hold our annual European flood con there. It will be in conjunction with Linux Tog. It's basically going to be the biggest Fedora event of the year in Europe and I would encourage all of you to come to Linux Tog, there you go. If you want to join our community, we would love to have you. Feel free to come by our booth.  It's a trivial process to get started, get your little wiki page up and have at it and I thank you very much for your time and attention. Thank you.