Next, we'll have an interactive session with all the guests. So we could have a few of you either sit in your places, we'll pass mics around, or you could come to the stage here, and we could actually have it recorded. Maybe that would be a better thing to do. If you all could come here and tell us what the experiences in your college were, which courses they took, what was the student's response, any specific things that you'd want us to incorporate in the courses that are to come this time or in the future, that would be really great. So could we start off with somebody with that? So we'll finish this and then get on to the next part of it. A very pleasant good afternoon to all of you. At the outset, I would like to say that the professors have given a lot of comments about the NPTEL. So my comments are a little bit positive and also how to take it forward in NPTEL a better one. So I asked some of my faculty, how did you feel the course or how did you feel the assignments and the problems? Can you introduce yourself, sir? Yeah, I am Chakarajya Principal K.S. from the College of Technology, Kuchumur. So I asked them, sir, it is a little tough. Then I asked the question again, it is a little tough or a little more tough. They say it is really very tough. So what happened is at the end, then I asked them very next day whether you were able to solve the assignments or the problems and they said yes, sir. So that means I felt myself that the NPTEL has done its job, training the faculty and then making them to learn more and more. And then it has become easy for the students to learn. And one day I casually asked, because my faculty do not know what they did. I asked some of the students how was the course, whether you are regularly going through the course and this thing. And they said, sir, we are regularly going through, but we are finding it a little more tough. And I said that, okay, you have to feel tough only then that you can learn the subject and, sir, we are learning. And finally I asked how many of you have sat for the examinations and the number, so more than 1,000 are registered. And it became a shocking results only about 100 students registered. And I'm really bothered about how many have passed. At least even one student has passed from my institution, I'd be very happy. So thanks to that more than 50% of the students have passed. And that means the NPTEL has done its job and doing things. And how to take it forward, the things. And now professors are all talking about the choice-based credit system. So we are already introduced to some kind of choice-based credit system. And we have made it that every branch of our college have to take at least one online courses, not only for that one branch, it's every year. Second year, third year, final year, we are not told to the first year students, perhaps that chemistry too is now coming up and they can take over the thing. So every branch, every student have to take one course, one online courses. And we have also made it that if the student passes in this examination, we can give some credit over there being an autonomous institution. And apart from that, I'm looking for the students who are fast learning. So we have a particular branch and if IITs or the MOOC courses I can give, these are all the advanced courses which we can take. So right from second year or third year onwards, if the students is able to take some few or three or four advanced courses, we can give a different kind of certification and by which that he will be able to get along with the gate and passing or he can maybe get along with the good industries and then they can go, they can go the certification process can be done. And other things that NPTEL can also see that any student who registers and then passes with a good percentage of marks, right? And the five courses, if they take it again, we can take some few more, the certification process and so that it will be at large, it will be useful. But on the whole, that emails, professors are a little bit, I mean apprehension about the emails which you are getting from the students. So the five or six students are giving email and perhaps that is good in communication. I asked our students also why you are not able to, not talking to the professors. So we are really afraid of those professors because they are not good universities. So I told them that you don't have to be afraid of asking questions. If you do not know how to write a question and put it in email, please tell me what you want to ask. I'll write a question and then give it to you back. So that is what the teachers or the faculty have to do. And therefore that it will get one more emails. And I take it the other way, which is a positive one. If only very less emails have come, very questions are asked. I think that most of the students have understood well. Then what I am teaching to the same course with them. So that is what you have to take it. But in due course of time, I think that you will get a much more email courses, maybe much more constructive feedback from the students part of it. But on the whole, the students are now, they are aware of these kinds of courses online courses. And they keep registering in future. I think that you will have more of a job than the comfortably that you have to come out with a somewhat comfort zone. Now NPTEL has created a few courses and becomes teachers are learning, students are learning. Perhaps the students may ask few more courses or in a different way, perhaps that we all of us have a little more work. So thank you for the opportunities. And I really thank NPTEL for having come out with the thing. I think I was the first one to buy these course materials by paying 1 lakh or 2 lakh rupees at the time. Yeah, at the time. And then we were really installed and we put some more, the kind of a thing. So I think that NPTEL can be a good alternative for all of us and in learning engineering. So not engineering tomorrow, but what engineers in the past also can learn much. And then I think we can become better professional than the professional which we are yesterday or today. And tomorrow we'll be better professionals. Thank you so much. Thank you. So I would like to thank the NPTEL for giving the opportunity for our students and all the faculty members to learn through online programs. In fact, in our college, students registered in large numbers in various courses, more than 1,000 students registered. But ultimately, in the examination only around 150 students participated. And maybe around 15, 20 students scored marks, good marks. So we wanted to get the feedback from the students why they were not participating in the exam. But they said, many of them said, it is a good learning experience for us sir. And we learned a lot through this process. Then I asked them, how was it different from what our teachers teach those subjects? They said it is totally different and the high level of teaching. And they also saying that some tricks are being taught, short cuts of solving problems, particularly the basic electric circuits, they were very happy about that program. And they said, lot many short cuts of solving problems are taught. And in the C programming also, they were very happy. In certain programs, they expressed that, for example, in civil engineering, they were saying that the assignments were given in one form, but the examination was in a totally different form. And they were not knowing that this is how the examination will be conducted. But learning experience was good. The only thing is that the examination and the pattern was slightly different and which was expressed by the students. And in English, they were saying that the internal assessment marks were not being considered. And they were asking why it was not done so. That was one thing. And another comment that we received from students was that after the assessment, marks are given, but they are not, they do not know which one is right or which one is wrong. So only total marks are given. What is correct and what is not correct is not given so that they can learn why it is wrong and how to correct themselves. This opportunity was, if it is given, it is good for them. And I also feel that instead of calling, you have called the spokes, the principals and the mentors to meet here. But it will be much more worthwhile if you call the students also, because I find that 80% of the participants are students. And if you call them here and ask their opinion, I think it will be a very interesting experience for all the professors who are experiencing, saying that they get some few emails, but if you bring the students, they have a lot to tell. So I think you will get the first hand experience from the students. But as a whole, all the students liked this course and some students said, anyway I have got benefited through these videos, but why should I write the exam? They said, you know, it's better you participate so that you know whether you really understood the concepts or not. And they were happy. And initially we were also not very happy about the students not registering and not writing the exam, but as expressed by everybody, and I find in all these numbers if I see, so this is the phenomena. And it is also liberated individuals. They are trying to become liberated individuals, but it's a nice experience for them also. But as a whole, our students liked this program very much and I also thank N.P.Tel for providing this opportunity for all the students and for all the faculty members. Thank you very much for the opportunity. Thanks a lot for the feedback. Actually, we are asking faculty members to release detailed solutions now, I think in some assignments. Oh, for the final exam, okay. Yeah, we'll do it any time now. Okay, yeah, okay. So what went right in the final exam and what didn't go right? Okay, okay. So that's gonna be a little bit more complicated. We're gonna figure out how to do that. So maybe we can do it in some reasonable way. I think for objective type questions, that should be possible. Maybe we're not publishing the question papers. So yeah, so that discussion came up in the last meeting also when we had, should we publish the question papers or not? It's a bit difficult for a faculty members. They keep publishing question papers. Next time, they all, of course, they have to come up with totally new question papers. So it's not common practice to publish these kind of question papers. So they're hesitating a little bit. So we'll figure out some way in which information can be given to students on what went right, et cetera. Because that was, that is fair, let us to go. And the other thing about calling students is a fantastic idea. Maybe one from all the local chapter colleges, you can have students here who've done the course and then also faculty from here can interact with them. And yeah, I think, like you also mentioned, students find writing emails or posting something on the forum, they're a bit scared. I think maybe in a forum like this, they'll be able to talk. But thanks, thank you very much. So what we tell now though, is that the assignment questions and the exam questions should be kind of similar. Should be similar. That's something we're on. Good afternoon to you all. I'm Dr. Anpichirian, Fawq, Valli Mainjini College. So in our college, totally for first phase, July to September, nearly 95 students are registered. 76 students are certified. And then second phase, nearly 38 students are certified. First of all, I thank the NPTEL coordinators and the administrative people for giving consistent for our students for writing the examination 50%. Thank you, Onandal, for NPTEL coordinators. And another one request is the study center. So we are having the study center for the examination center is nearest to our college. We request to all of them. In Kottangalut, near Thresharam. Yeah. Yes, we kindly consider. So we are also having the TCS Accreditor Center. So for this collaboration, if it is possible, nearest to a Thresharam College or another college, kindly consider for this. Thank you to all. Thank you, sir. And another one is in continuation of this, in our college, we are publishing the NPTEL. If you are, if you passing through the NGH 45, you see the advertisement in our college NPTEL online courses, we are colleges have another study center. And also in our college, most of the places are advertised by the NMEs of Banner, the NPTEL center contact. Thank you to our management and the principal. Also coming. Thank you, Onandal, for sending it. Thank you, sir. Thanks a lot for it, for just to set the record straight, this we initially called it study center and then there was some confusion about Ignu study center, people out there charging money and all that. We wanted to get clear of that. So we are now calling it local chapter. Please use local chapter from now on. Don't say study center. Thanks a lot. And so for Chennai, we have not really thought about offering other centers, right? Chennai is always only one center. So you're saying within Chennai itself, there is a requirement from going from Kathankulathur to maybe some other place in Avadi or something, it's quite far, I guess. So we have to think about it. But as a policy, we don't have, we don't like students from the same college riding in the same place. We try to avoid it as much as possible. So maybe if not in Malayama itself, maybe somewhere else nearby in Vandalur or something, we can find something. I think afternoon is, I mean, reaching very soon. Even though I'm very good morning to you all in this forum, right? I'm from Kalasalingam University, Krishnan Koyil, working as assistant professor, myself Shanmugha Priya. I got a mentor. So I really want to share a few experience and I just in front of you for a few words to share about the thanking session, like I just consider here this time. For both side, I have to thank as a mentor, like for the MPTEL office people and as well as for the course instructors. One is, we had two courses already completed in our students. Like one is earlier, we had one more managing service course. This is Jaita Satarji from IIT Kanpur professor. As a result, after that, another one more course we have registered. That time, when I registered, after, if I would like to register my college students, that time we have internal examinations and all. After looking at all the courses, every registration process over, right? Closed. Then only after, while I'm communicating with the course related details with my students, they will return back from the internal exams, every registration process closed. Then I just discussed with the directly, I mean communicate with the request, mail as well as through phone approaching, approach the IIT professor, Prachabhushan, really they helped a lot. They especially as well as in association and the connection with the MPTEL office, even though after closed their registration process, they extend one more day especially for us. And all the 70 students registered and really they used a lot from the materials which is uploaded in the videos and each and everything. Only one hesitation with them. After that, I just, I don't know about even the local chapter are no more in charges instructed us earlier. Like, you know, we will have exam center in our university. If more than 50 students, we will have the opportunity like that. So the same way I believed it and I have instructed all my, even all my colleagues six, nearly out of 70 registered candidates for that particular course instead of six, seven of them as a assistant professor and associate professor also. So for them, if I give a students, we will write the exam in our own place. No need to go somewhere else, not in Madurai or somewhere. So they are really interested to register the course. End of the time, they, I mean, again, it is only in the local chapter you won't have, we will go for Madurai. That time for, I mean, reaching the place to Madurai itself, some of the faculty again, hesitate and drop out while for attending the final exam. So if possible, make, because this time, really three more courses, they are more interested to register for January 18th deadline. So after if it is possible to make nearby more number of students, those who registered for the courses, if you make the opportunity for us to do things in our campus itself, I think it's more nearly nearby, other nearby institutions also very happy to care about now only I'm seeing many of our own nearby place people here. So we will get more benefit out of this. So if we, and this is a humble request from all our faculty member from my department, please share this things with the office people and get the things good. So probably we'll reach higher extent number of success in NPTEL online course. So thanks a lot for the course instructors and nice way of approaching things with the NPTEL office. And last two days before for the online exam also, I just discussed with the people related with the other instruction and they are very scared about the how to approach the online exam, but I just boost up some of the confidence level from them while I'm sharing the things with the people. I had a call from IET, I'm at the NPTEL office itself because three, four professors even they didn't receive their hall tickets. They nicely, I mean, associated with us and provided all the special hall ticket for them. So thanks a lot for all kinds of supports and help us and when we record from the people. So the same continuous link with you all in near future also in the successful way. Thank you very much for all. Thank you. Yeah, in response to this, we'd like to say one thing. One is the exam dates are pre-published.  If not actually more than a month is more welcome, but max of at least a month ahead we'd want because we have to communicate to our exam partner, ask them which is the college there that they can provide. And if there are online exams, right? They have to check out colleges with computers and they are people who run exams through the year. There is some exam or the other that is a partner who's running.  They are not running other exams and so on. So logistics wise, if you want a request an exam center in your city, please let us know at least a month ahead. Now that you have the list of courses and the exams, you think more than 50 students are gonna write from your college. Tell us now in January itself and we'll start working with you on that. Also the number of staff that we have here, yeah, we are working through the day, through the week, whatever. And we are working with so many colleges. So you know, we are keeping track of everything. We are trying to improve our processes, but they may be slip up. So kind of just follow up with us on this. The third point is when the coordinator of a college, there were some things that we're missing here. We had a list, but I'm coming through with one point here. When the coordinator or the SPOC or anybody of a college sends us a list of students who's registering for an exam, who are enrolled for an exam and you're telling us, saying give us scholarships or something. Many times the email IDs do not match. So one check that we do from our offices, we take out the list of students enrolled in the course on the portal. We get the list of email IDs of all the students enrolled in that particular course. The least thing we want to do is at least check the student you're requesting a scholarship for or asking us to register for the exam is there in the course. So that's a bare minimum that we're asking for. Then only he would have submitted at least some assignments, gotten some marks and so on. Many times we are getting wrong email IDs. There's a dot missing, there's a dash missing. The person would have given an institute ID while actually he would have enrolled on it with a personal ID. Obviously we're gonna have mismatches. We do not know what the problem is because when we match with the name, right, there'd be 10 prias or 20 Shanmugams turning up. We don't know who is that from your college who has registered. So just be aware that when you all send us lists for giving us registration details or for say applying for scholarships, the email IDs on the portal are the same as what are given to us through the Excel sheets that you share with us. This would make our jobs very easy and we would not be missing out candidates and you know, last minute scramble for can you allow them to write and so on. You wouldn't have to accommodate. It can all go through the regular process itself. So that is something that would make work easier for both of us, I guess. Thank you. So good afternoon, one and all present here. I am Dr. S. Nagalakshmi, Associate Professor, Triply Department of Kamaraj College of Engineering and Technology, Virudunagar. And I am one of the, I am the SPOC of our college. And I just want to share my experience as an SPOC to here. And first of all, before this NPTEL study center, as a faculty, I do not know about the NPTEL online courses because before that also, it was there. And three of our students, only three of our students have enrolled, registered and they have written exams. And during now 2014, only two students have written and two girls students, one is from EC and another one is from ENI. They got certification and that also, we don't know anything. Only the tutor of the student only knew all those things. And they too don't publish the details, everything. We were not aware of the NPTEL online courses. And another time, during the march or something else, a mail came to our principal that you have been admitted to take part as a NPTEL study center at that time. And our principal, because we are the nodal center for Anna University, CFD, our college is a nodal center. And we have 19 cluster colleges around us. So for that, I am one of the coordinators of the QAC. And hence he called me and whether we can choose we are going to apply, like that he told. Okay sir, we'll try sir, like that I told. And we have applied and during April 6th, I came to IIT to attend the awareness program which was given by Ann Proser. And he gave a clear picture how to enroll, how to register, how to download videos, everything he has given nicely, he have explained nicely. And after that I've, we have formed seven, there is seven coordinators from each and every department. And then I've also registered for two courses. But I have registered, enrolled for two courses, but I have registered only for one course. So at the time to know the process in full, I've also written exams also. I've taken the course, basic electrical engineering and I have been qualified with the 79 percentage of marks. And but I have not prepared anything. I just watched, that is learned from the videos. And I am a regular assignment submitter and I too motivated many students in my department. How I have motivated my students is that what I'll do is I have registered for basic electrical, enrolled for basic electrical circuits. What I do is I'll download all the videos first and I'll copy those videos in a particular system in my department. I've named the system also, the NPGEL online certification course system. So in that one, I've placed all those videos. Also I have placed the assignments, copied assignments in Word and also I have given that because some students may feel difficult to download. So they can take it through the pen drive also. For that, I have downloaded all the videos, assignment questions, everything I've placed. And what we do is only during the venous day, that is the last day for submission of assignment. At that time, I will work out all the problems and I will check whether my answer is correct with my student and we both, some students we'll discuss and we'll put up the answers. And the next day, immediately the Thursday, we'll get the marks, whether we have got all correct or how many marks we have scored, et cetera. And after three weeks, you see in that assignment also, there is an option to check the answers. That is very great advantage. We started working from the Thursday, next Thursday till the venous day, we'll complete. So that is one thing what I have to say, thank the coordinator of the course because for assignments, if they give a provision to check the answers, it is well and good. Another one is like myself, every faculty members, they have also motivated the students. And in our college, we have a 207 students registered. The enrolled is a little bit higher, I don't want to mention here. So how many have registered is 207 and 191, they have been certified. So one more credit I want to share with us, we are the one among the colleges that offered many courses among those 18, we have offered 13 courses among the 18 short term courses. So we have offered more number of courses, we have given more exposure to the students among the courses. And only one difficulty we have faced is, like Adiva Mammi told that during the hall ticket, we have faced a lot of problems, I have disturbed them a lot because instead of Gmail, they have given us the typo error that exists, G-A-M-I-L, like that. So I have really troubled, so they were very kind enough, satisfy us. One of the exam also some students came me and I didn't still get the hall ticket with my photo and with my data web. And I told, you come to the center, we'll see everything like that. And they have made enough provisions for writing all the certifications. That part alone, we have to improve them. And another one is the mentor registration. During this July batch, only during August only, we had started the mentor login process. If we have started it earlier, it could be more beneficial for the students, it seems, on the portal. That is, we are giving the mentor name list and you are sending a mail to the mentors, you are uniting the mentors and they are also accepting. And in some cases, that mentor name is not available to select in the portal. So that is what are the only problem we have. So that is, we are giving the SPOC, is enrolling the name of the mentors and you are sending an invitation letter to the mentors and they are also responding. And we need to get it in the portal. Then only we can select the mentors, then only they will actively involve in, and that is what I want to share. Thank you.  So for the coming run of courses, which start on January 18th, maybe by January 1st week or so, if the colleges have fixed up the mentors for the courses, you all send the email IDs to us at NPTEL at IITM-RADACY.IN, give us one email, preferably, by the SPOC saying for which course who is the mentor, give the mentor email ID. We will add it in the backend of the courses, whatever appropriately, so that it will show, and before the course run itself, you can start using the mentor logins. But the mentors have to be enrolled to the course, that's a requirement for them to appear there. So actually we have added in the backend, why it may not be visible is, if that person has not enrolled to the course, that's a possibility. The other is, of course, we may not have added him, so that is also there. And I don't know if you'll have seen in the local chapter pages that you'll add for every college, we have actually added the details about the courses being taken by the colleges in the last two runs, September and November exams. We have added the number of students registered in every course you have taken, and we've published the photos of the toppers from your colleges also in every course if they are there. So we've updated these details on the local chapter page, you can probably go through it and let us know if any changes, corrections are there. Another suggestion is, in Amini College of Engineering, they had done a small video, I think Professor Andrew mentioned it. We'd actually be very happy if many of your colleges could prepare some videos about student feedback about the courses, how y'all found it, some certificate samples and so on, and send it to us, y'all could host it on your local chapter page also for visibility. Good afternoon, sir. This is A. Rajamshen from Anay Velangani College of Engineering, Kanyakumari, the corner of Tamil Nadu. There are certain things that we want to share from the rural end, that is the end of Tamil Nadu among the, our colleges in the middle of the villages. So people are from, the students are from the end, the village end. So certain things that we want to share. We are happy, first of all, we are very happy with the support given by the NPTEL team and whenever we have any doubts at any time, we can able to make a call before five or six, I think. So we have got a very good support from their end and also the scholarship for our students, which is very helpful for our students to come up and learn something, learn something different apart from the regular academic courses. And there are certain things like, first of all, the programming part, programming in C, especially, when we start our first part, we have certain, some of the suggestions like, we do have marks for the programs, like for the steps also. But in the next year and the next side, next exam, we don't have anything such thing like that and our students are literally will say, they are disappointed with, they can't, they are very much scared at the last end, like we are not getting answers or something like that. So that seems to be some negative part from our end in our college. And one more thing that I want to say is like, when first of all we opened the portal, literally they say like, is it a YouTube having the set of videos, something like that. So, but still they are very much happy with whatever the courses that's already available. And we are also keep on adding up to them, informing them like we have the set of courses which is useful and now it's across the department also. So, and one more thing like students, they are coming from villages and most of the students are Tamil medium. So, from second year we are giving this course and students just now only they are picking up with Tamil part, they are coming out with Tamil and they are taking up the English part. So, what students feeling is, this is the standard, IIT standard, it's very high standard, but students they want the course to be somewhat slow because we have the lessons, even I see some of the students introduction to C programming that single video itself for many of our students saw three, four times because they are not in the sync with the video. So, this is one thing and if to improve what we can suggest is one small part is like we can have some subtitles, so whatever is taught so we can have the same part. So that people can, so students what they will do is even though they saw they do the second time they can able to have some sync up with whatever is said and they can able to easily understand. So, this avoid them four, five times of watching the same video and that one thing. And the second one is this is from rural point of end of the college, this is some, for most of the students it seems to be somewhat overload. So, what they think, even though they don't, when they come to college then only they can able to have the internet connections and all, even though we have the downloaded, they don't have the systems in their homes also. So, it will be fine if we have some more time extended. Let the video be by 20 hours, 20 or 40 hours it's fine for us but that time of completion of the course apart from the regular to 20 hours if it's how, if we have something extra so it will be helpful for our students because we faced in the, we have attended two exams our students attended two exams and in that they stuck in the first two videos itself around some 10 students that means one or two students they stuck in the first two videos itself. So, all those 20 hours times covered in that video itself. So, we want to have some suggestion for that so that it will be helpful for our students and they want to, most of the apart from the course I can say like when I look around some of the students they are watching the video to know that English fluency they want to get the English fluency for that itself students are watching the video even though they are not interested in assignments courses and all. So, for that itself they are coming up with enrolling. So, it will be fine from our end the end of the Tamil Nadu we can have for the rest. Thank you, thank you very much. They will sanction a project for subtitling in multiple languages. So, practically in English we already want to do it's part of what we do. There is a delay in our process by which we cannot subtitle when the course is running. I don't know I think very hard to do it when it's running. Maybe the next time when the course is run we will have subtitles in English. Definitely no doubt about it and we might even have subtitles in Tamil. So, that will really help I think. And the other thing we are trying to push faculty to do is get the first one or two weeks of content recorded as early as possible and put it up on the portal. As soon as the course is announced we want to have at least the first weeks content. So, the problem you are talking about how people get stuck in the first week. Hopefully they will have more time to see the first week and be in tune by the time they come to the second week or third week. But the time is constrained and it's very hard for us to push it beyond. We are announcing the dates now. Hopefully that will help you a little bit. Thank you very much. I can't understand a word you are saying. I have a four or five years of education. I am from Srinivore, a high school student. That's when I finished high school. So, I do it only if I have a language problem. What I do is, I give you a few videos like the first two or three videos and you can understand how I do it. Language will eventually be better. You can do that. Definitely do it like that. That's it. No, the Tamil subtitles from Pratap submitted a national project. We will try to do English subtitles as far as possible until the end of the month. Language is an issue. I don't know you, but I have a language issue. But I think students have to learn. They have to practice in English. So, we have already started doing some demo of subtitling in Tamil. Actually, we are trying to subtitle in almost 22 Indian languages. We are starting with NPTEL content and we are looking at the first 40 courses we are looking at. The other first year all common courses or eight courses and then about eight maybe important courses of every discipline, every engineering discipline. Other than the basic NPTEL content we are trying to do that. But we will also try and do it with online courses. It is not dubbing, it is subtitling. You know exactly the point professor here was making that we want the student to also learn English. And mainly we feel first year the problem will come and they will not know English immediately or all new material is already in English. So, they have to learn the language and also learn the subject. That is very difficult. So, we hope that subtitling means they can understand what is going on based on the subtitle. And they will also learn the English in the side by side by listening to various professors speak in English. So, this we are trying to do. We already did demo. We have also submitted to the ministry proposal to do this in a proper large scale fashion. Because again, it's not an easy thing to do because much of the people, the agencies that are there who do this kind of stuff. We have usually done it for entertainment industry. Whereas we are now doing for technical content. So, some judgment is required. They have to judge how much to translate, how much to leave as technical term something is there. In fact, we will require maybe faculty assistants from various colleges to check whether that subtitling is correct. So, we will come with the ones that effort gets going. We will come to you for all those things. Online courses also, some of the online courses use videos which were originally recorded for NPTEL content. So, once we start this subtitling effort, you will see some variations initially. You will see some courses coming with the subtitles in Tamil. Some may not come with the subtitles in Tamil. But we will try. We will keep trying our best to keep pushing as many courses and as many classes as possible with subtitles and as many languages as possible. Once we get the system running, when we know how to go about it, we will understand how much lead time we need. That is, if faculty gives it to us for first week classes, how far in advance we need to have it so that we can immediately push it out with some subtitles in different languages. We want to do for all 22 languages. But I think a number of people in some languages and even getting experts in some languages may be difficult. So our initial attempt is at least eight languages. We want to make sure we are really pushing hard on those eight languages. And then eight more, we will do some lesser number of lectures and then maybe a few more with very few languages. But this definitely is something we are planning to do. Only some demo lectures are out there, but we want to do it in a very coordinated way. We will do that. And we have separate office for NPTEL in our college university. I think this must be different from others. And many things are that we discussed. As one of our faculty told us to see about the MENTA selection. So that could be done in this way that the experts will allocate the MENTAs via the NPTEL office. Then the MENTAs can select the students from the list available. If this is possible, this can be looked on. Because what happens is that the students are finding it difficult to search the mail ID and to fit in. They don't know the mail ID of the MENTA. Most of the students, they don't know the mail ID of the MENTA. It has to be communicated well. So some they do it, some they don't do it. So there's a confusion. So it would be better if the experts selects the MENTA, the MENTA allocates the students. It could be better in that way. And the one more problem is that the registration, first time it was like this. We used to put a template and we used to collect the mail IDs from the students and we used to submit it. Later part of it was the students are made to control themselves. So what happened is that first time they gave their own mail ID. Second time, and you know, students they have a lot of mail IDs nowadays. Not a single mail ID. Okay, so for each and every class they have different mail IDs. So they submit some other mail ID. Especially then as Madam Kono for Madam Toul, typographical errors are there again. So it's, we are finding it difficult. I mean, even it's the case with the faculty members who are registering. And the last part is that our university has planned, our vice chancellor has commented on all faculty's members is making up one side to take at least one course from NPTEL. So I think the NPTEL office will be 50% constitutional at least for all faculty members in that. Okay, this is a request from our side also. So almost around 382 faculty will be registering for NPTEL course this semester. Don't understand how the MOOC process goes on and all these things. So this is also, thank you. So a couple of points, I think this mentors and mentee selection has been a point for many people. So there's two issues to keep in mind. You may be the one issue. One is, the main issue is, this is an open course. So when we say students, there are students from all across the country. So it's very hard for, in fact, even the faculty who's conducting the course, they don't have access to the list of all students in their course. We don't give that email, there's a privacy issue there. I don't know if you think about it. The student who wants to learn, it may not want everybody to know their email ID, et cetera. So we have to be very careful about that. But for faculty members, we do do it. There's a backend process by which we process and we get the mail IDs to them in case they want it. But usually faculty don't ask for email ID. So there is an issue with that. So the one way in which we can maybe solve it is in the list of mentors, if we can somehow include the university or college's name, then students will be able to find it. So maybe we can do it the other way. But it will still have to work that students have to pick the mentors and mentors cannot pick students. I think it's just the privacy issue is too big that there are terms in which they come and log into our site. We can't let everybody access to email ID of the student. That's one issue. The other issue is with the scholarship when we're trying very hard to raise money. Believe me, for scholarships, we have to raise money. So there was one company which was, it's not MSRD money, it's not MSRD money. It's privately, they are through Harrison. So privately raise money through corporate CSR support. So not many companies are willing to give us money. We had one company, I think there's still money there, but I think by January then we'll be okay, but hopefully by July we can raise more money. We're trying our best to raise. So don't be very, very sure about the scholarship. January will be okay, but I'm not sure about July. We will try our best to raise money as much as possible. Okay, so I think those are the two points. I wanted to make you. Very good afternoon. Myself, Parthi. I have a principal representing from Tiagarajar Polytechnic Salem. So in our Polytechnic last July, 2014, the students are registering for the courses and 232 students are registered for the CIS courses. And all the 232 students are certified. And most interestingly, the one professor is telling that the students may have the problem of speaking English. And each and every day we are going to the class, and we are insisting that the importance of improving the communication. But very interestingly, here in our students, out of the six courses, 43 students are registered for practical English. They are more interested in practical English. And we are offering the continued education center through which we are conducting a lot of certificate courses. And I'm telling to the students to go and register for English, communicate English courses in the continued education center. But the students are not responding to register in our center, but rather than they are registering for more number of students registering for practical English and NPTL courses. So the students are thinking that the best teachers are available maybe in the NPTL. And this year, or maybe this duration, we are giving the instruction to the students, almost five to six hundred students are ready for registering the courses. And we are giving the instruction to the teachers, you must register at least one course and pass the examination of NPTL courses. Otherwise, we will not release the incremental. So this is my experience. I want to send it to you. And thank you very much. So I think that may not be a very popular move. I think, you know, I'm an academic at the course. I'm a believer in choices, and you have to give choices to people. Don't push things too hard into people, and eventually it won't survive if you push things too hard. I mean, it's just my idea. But if you think, when you are the best judge of what works for you. And also I think to another point, I wanted to make a sponsorship fight. I think I believe Pula Reddy College is the college, there's a college trust itself sponsors students. So that's an interesting model. I don't know if that will work or not. So we're deserving, really deserving students. If you think your trust is willing to help out, that's also a great model to follow as well. We have Professor Nandan Sudarshanam here with us. I'd like he ran the data analytics course last time between July and September, which was usually popular. So I just requested him to share his experience. So I just, I stepped in a little late. So I don't want to repeat something that's already been said. I just thought I'd emphasize two things, which is I see this role of mentors being really critical. Because for whatever reason, right? This whole online learning model is very exciting. You know, it's taken up in a big way. And yet we have our brick and mortar institutions. And there is a reason for that. They seem to provide the critical structure that is needed. And that's really what the mentors can do, which is they can provide the structure and bolster the entire online learning model. And I think that's very important. The other role, which I think is really important. And I think, can I just put in a small slider? This is just a joke to kind of lighten the mood. You know, I think feedback to us is very important. We'd like to know how good a job we do. And I teach a course in data analytics. And so I believe in data. And so here's a cartoon for you, right? So this is an app. We're all familiar with apps on cell phones. And so here is the rating. The app is supposed to warn people when there's a tornado coming by. We just had this whole storm in Tamil Nadu. We're all washed out from it. So imagine an app that actually told you, saying that a storm is coming by, a warning. So here are people who have rated this app, right? So the first one says good user interface, UI. Good user interface. Many alert choices. You can make it buzz. You can make it make a loud sound, whatever. The second person says it's running great. No crashes. It's not crashing the app. It's working really well. Good rating. Oh, the third one says, I like how you can choose many locations. So it'll warn you, any of these locations. So all of them have given it a good rating. The last person says, the app did not warn me about a tornado, right? And yet the average of those four is four and a half. So we are sometimes reacting to data. I see the number of people who submitted assignments. I see the number drop. I see the number raise. But I'm going off of this model. And there's a problem with this model. So any feedback that we get, and we can't get feedback from 1000 students to register for a course. So any critical feedback that we can get in any way that we can learn more from your experiences I think would be valuable to me. So I think both on that ground and on the ground of where mentors provide the structure to students and thereby bolster this advantage you have with online learning would be really valuable. Thank you. Good afternoon to everyone present here. I'm Indra Shwari from SSM Institute of Engineering and Technology Bindical. I am the Esposy of my college. I'd add to say two points here. Most of the feedback from our college, the students felt the exact timings could be changed because all the exams were conducted in the afternoon between one to four or two to five. It would be better if we can have that in the morning session. And then I myself registered for one exam during the past November. And I registered for a geo-synthetics and soil infrastructures that was a non-linear exam. The graphs were the supporting documents like some graphs, charts and tables that were given in the soft copy. I couldn't interpolate the values during my examination within the prescribed time. That was one difficulty me and my students went through that exam. And for some courses the assignments were of objective type and exams were of subjective type and they felt it difficult because they didn't expect such a type of exam. It was a shock for them. And in our college we'd have a self-appraisal system for faculty and our principal insists that every faculty has to undertake or has to be certified in any form of two NPTEL online courses every year. And he makes sure that every Wednesday that every faculty submits their assignment product. And during the 2015, all the three courses of exam our faculty as well as student centre went right from the January course and then the July course and then from the September to November courses. All the three exams our students registered and they have got certified. Most of it, most of our faculty have been certified through all the exams. And thanks for the NPTEL and its team for supporting us all the time. And they were very supportive. The NPTEL team was very supportive all through their time because one candidate, unknown English, she has given a Coimbatore's exam centre and we are from Dindical. During the last minute we claimed that and we just, we didn't check the hall ticket till the last minute. Only the day before the exam the candidate checked the hall ticket and told that it was a Coimbatore centre. I couldn't go over there. I have paid many. Is there any option that I can do? So we contacted the office and they immediately told us, okay, she can write it at Dindical. We will speak with our exam partner. And it's so kind of you. Thank you ma'am. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Yeah, we'd just like to clarify here that last year if you'll had seen if the colleges who participated we had opened our exam form in about 100 centres all across India. And then we had to narrow it down and we had to bring it down to city. So after about four or five runs we now open our form only in about 30 cities across India. And on request from local chapters we hold exams in the city where the college is located. So if it's 30 cities in India it comes down to almost like popular states like Tamil Nadu and Andhra. We have two, three cities but other states we have just about one city. So when we're looking at it we're thinking like if 150 kilometres some student has to travel and come it'll take him about four to five hours. We don't want him to get into something like getting it accommodation, coming there and so on. So morning 5.30 or 6 if he leaves he can come to the centre by say 11 or 12 take the exam between 1 and 4, 2 to 5, get back. That was more the idea of doing it as an afternoon slot, not for anything else. So hoping that we open up exams in more cities and students are able to access them easier then we could probably think of morning exams. But the idea of the afternoon was more on these lines that students can just come as a day trip try the exam and go back. This process of MOOCs when it was started two years ago the examination fee collected from the student covers all the operations of running the exam and I think hardly any money is left in that because the purpose is not to make any funding out of it. The creation of the courses, the maintaining the website, the staff members, everything is straight from the MPTEL's main project of the MHRD sanction and so on. Therefore financially it's a bit tight. We are running as tightly as we can keeping the fees as low as possible. Somewhere around 1,600 or even 800 rupees isn't it? It's about 1,000 rupees. It's about 1,000 rupees. This is the minimum we could do for the numbers of students that we have to register at the end of the process for the final examination. So please keep that in mind. If Aris Kint or any other company is more than willing to give CSR you don't want to keep a penny here in the IAT madras. No, I think it will be distributed back to the institutions. It'll be given back to the, I mean, fed back to the centers for the study center, the MPTEL local chapters and also to the students directly. So that's not the issue. Right now we are on a watertight financial model and the next phase has been sanctioned but we still haven't got the money. Still there is no money for the examination. Examination have to be still, the fact that examinations still have to be done only by this body that collecting fees from the students. So this I wanted to keep everybody aware of. Graf Noon, I'm Dr. Agalya. Representing Sivaasavi College, Giroud. First I would like to place my appreciation. First one is, we always have a myth and it is a proven record that all the brainy persons are in IATs. Thank God that it is being extended to arts and science also through the courses in MPTEL. And the other one is, the appreciation is for when the government is not providing any BC scholarship, the MPTEL has given scholarship for the students so they are very happy that they started enrolling. And the other one is, the thing is, usually they'll be sitting in the classes and watching to all the classes and listening to the lessons. Thank God they had the video classes so they are very happy to watch the videos. They were ready to take the assignments also. Phasing one problem is that in uploading the assignments or the difficulties particularly when talking about the practical English, we were very happy with the assignments and we were able to do it. They had a special, they had a notebook to make every assignment get into things but the matter is that they couldn't upload it. The formality given by the professor is highly difficult, let me say. Because this is an enhanced learning, technology using. And after talking about MPTEL in our college, we had been a brand ambassador of IIT and MPTEL and we have introduced in such a way but have done this for our college then our admission would have been more in that way. And what they had us, they were very happy to get into because we are talking, it is a certification from IIT. So they are all very happy to enrol it. But all these process of getting into it and doing the things, they faced very difficult. It was merely a three to four hours of process of getting into one assignment and they got fed up. That is the thing. Still, they have all the assignments in their notebook. That is the process. So they have learned and they have got into certification. These kind of things when we are extending into arts and science colleges, it has to be also taken into consideration so that more number of students will be using this MPTEL as a very good source and thank you for the opportunity.