Okay, we're back, we're live, 11 o'clock, rock, and so exciting we have Colin Moore, assistant professor of political science, am I right? Associate professor. Associate professor, okay. That's okay, Jay. Okay, never, I always go the wrong way, okay, and he's also the director of the Public Policy Center in UH Minoa, so it's great to have him on the show. Pleasure to be here. Especially now. I know, what a bizarre election season we've had. I mean, like I was saying to you before the show started, but really, we're really in uncharted territory at this point. I'm teaching an elections class this semester, and every once in a while I have to confess to my students, I really don't know what's going on because we've never seen anything like this before. Yeah. We all went to school, we learned civics and social studies, we learned western civilization, philosophy, government, all that stuff, and this is beyond any of that. There's no precedent for this. It absolutely is. To have a candidate like Trump, whatever you think about him, become the nominee of a major political party, we've never seen anything like this before.  He can't win, right? He can't win. I mean, he could have won potentially if he was a more disciplined candidate. If he had followed his PR advisors a bit more religiously, I mean, that's sort of the irony of it to some extent, is that Trump's failures are because he was trying to be more authentic, or at least the way he thought he was trying to be authentic, and they couldn't control the actual Trump. But he could have won. Now I think it's extremely unlikely after the tape came out and all of the other revelations. Not enough, but then he was so bad in that last debate on Sunday night, and then the women after the debate, when bringing those other women down with him was so tacky, and then of course, threatening to put her in jail, that was tacky too. It was. I mean, that moment where, I mean, not only did he just double down on this strategy of trying to bring Hillary Clinton into his own mess, but that moment when he said, if I was in president, you'd be in jail, we haven't ever seen anything like that in American politics. I mean, a cornerstone of democracy is that the opposition is legitimate, and every once in a while, any candidates even gotten close to saying something like that. They've usually backed off very quickly. I mean, there's that famous exchange with John McCain and a woman in one of his audiences where she says, you know, we're scared of this man. He's a Muslim, he's a terrorist, and you can see this moment where McCain is shocked and he says, no, ma'am, he's a good man. We just disagree on family issues, but Trump, Trump is willing to go there. Yeah, and he doesn't back down on anything. No. And after the New York Times wrote this really authoritative article about the women who came out against him, he denied it all, called it all a conspiracy, and this is the part I want to ask you about, Colin. Millions of people agree with it. They agree it's a conspiracy. This is what's so disturbing. I mean, not only is it that no matter what Trump does, he seems to have a floor of support that's about 35% of the electorate, but also that people do believe this, that we've sold them this line about government and how it's corrupt all the way through, and they should be trying to tear it down and destroy it, and everybody somehow is on the take. I mean, in truth, it's not true. People have been lied to for political reasons, and I think the Republican Party, I mean, these chickens have come home to roost. They've had a lot of electoral success by telling people that politicians are corrupt and you should throw the bums out and you shouldn't trust government. And it turns out people were listening, and they're not so pleased about that right now because they don't trust anyone, including the Republican establishment. Yeah, other Republican Party. Can they recover? Well, so this is what's going to be so fascinating. If Trump wins, actually that will probably be more difficult for the Republican Party to recover from because they'll be hopelessly divided into these factions. I think in the likely event that he loses, what's going to happen is there's going to be this fight. There's going to be people who say we need to stay the course. The only reason we lost this election was because Trump was such a terrible candidate. And the other people who've been saying for a decade now, we need to reform the party. We need to become a party that minority voters can support. I mean, there's a lot of reasons to think they could get that sort of support, but they can't keep doubling down on this dog whistle, quasi-racist strategy that they've been using. It reveals something, though. It reveals the disenchantment at almost a tipping point level. I mean, I wanted to ask you, where is the tipping point? Where do we lose it? Where does the democracy in jeopardy? At what point? This is a question I've been asking myself a lot over the last few months. I mean, at what point do you elect someone who truly doesn't believe in democracy? At what point do people just entirely lose faith? I think we're getting there. I don't know when the tipping point happens, but the system can't take much more... The lack of trust, if it continues, the system isn't built for that. I mean, in part because American democracy is set up to encourage conflict and discussion and debate. But to do that... You also have to believe that your opponents are legitimate, that they have the right to disagree with you. And you fight and you say mean things to each other on TV, but at the end of the day you realize that it's in my own self-interest to work with you to get something done. I have to. The system is set up that way. If I just think you're illegitimate, if you have no right to be there, I don't recognize the... I think you're corrupt or somehow part of some vast media conspiracy, then why would I compromise with you? Yeah, never. Never compromise with you. And if I lost in the conventional methodology, the courts, what have you, I would argue... I would continue to argue. I would never give in. That's right. And there's a disrespect for the system in general, if you take that position. I mean, isn't part of the system... Look, we have a mechanism for deciding these questions. And when the mechanism plays out, respect it. That's right. If you don't respect it, you're not respecting the system. That's right. That's the only way democracies work. And we have this precious thing that has worked for so long that we're in the process of destroying. I mean, it's why democracies are so hard to set up throughout the world. You can cut and paste from the U.S. Constitution and try to implement it. But if people don't have those values, if they don't honestly believe that the system is right and the opposition should be respected, you can't work. Somewhere out there that's a tipping point, and the question, the operative question I wanted to ask you is, are we now or will we be in a constitutional crisis? At what point will we be in a constitutional crisis? We'll be in a constitutional crisis if Donald Trump gets elected and tries to use the power of the presidency to destroy his opponent, the Clintons and others. I mean, to use the vast power of the American security establishment and the presidency to go after political opponents, to go after journalists. That's not an uncommon story in fragile, emerging democracies. But it's not something that's supposed to happen in the oldest mass democracy in the world. Yeah. He would be up to testing it too, wouldn't he? And I don't think we've fully realized how much an out-of-control president could do before anybody could stop him. So this is the thing. I mean, the Constitution, of course, was set up to try to prevent the election of a demagogue figure. And also, the presidency, constitutionally, originally, was supposed to be a relatively weaker office, more of a clerk in the service of the House and particularly the Senate. But over time, in the post-war era, we've seen the rise of the imperial presidency. And we've been fortunate in that most of the people who have been elected to that office have respected the power and respected the system. But the power of the office has grown dramatically. I mean, not only does the president have control over an intelligence and security apparatus that people 100 years ago could never even have imagined, but as the country has become more polarized, even domestically, things like signing statements, things like executive orders, have become more and more powerful. So that office itself has become more of a, you know, the president has become more of a king than he was ever supposed to be. And if you get someone who's really willing to push it even further, to use those powers to operate like a king, it'll be more difficult to push back on. It could become a petty dictatorship in no time before anybody can act to stop him. You know, he'd have so many powers, ways to get even. That's right. I mean, that is one of the fundamental and big advantages of the presidency is that the president can act quickly. He can just make an order. And it takes the courts. It takes the Congress months, sometimes years to respond. So you can do tremendous damage in a short period of time. So we find ourselves in a situation, ourselves collectively in a situation where, A, people coming out of school don't have the same education in civics and government as they used to. You agree with me? Yes. I mean, they don't teach civics in a lot of schools, a lot of states now. They don't. And for a while, Hawaii barely did. I mean, we tried to, the state tried to get rid of his entire social studies curriculum for a period. Not, but it didn't happen. But it didn't happen. Good, it didn't happen. Good. I mean, I think kids really need that if they're going to function as citizens. And the other thing is, you know, people do not participate. They don't see an obligation to participate. I just came back from Portugal and I said to the people, you know, do you vote? By the way, I asked them if they were going to vote for Trump or Clinton. It was a joke question, but they all answered me. Really? Because they see this election as a global election and they almost feel they can vote like everyone else. Right. Right. Did you get any Trump supporters in Portugal? Yes. And it was all based on Macho. Right. Right. He's Macho. I like him because he's strong. Yeah.  Anyway, if you don't vote in Portugal, they find you. I think it's a great solution. You pay money. I do too. They do it in Australia too. The fight is very modest. I mean, we can probably bracket this by saying it's almost certainly unconstitutional to have a law like that. But it's a good idea. And it's a good idea because it creates this expectation that you're going to vote just like you're going to pay your taxes. Even if the fine is very modest, everyone expects you to vote. And that's really what voting is.  People who never vote, almost, you know, they're just not voters. They never show up and do it. A lot of people. I went house to house for a candidate one time and I found a remarkable number of people saying, get away from me, don't knock on my door. I do not participate in this. I don't vote. I don't care. I don't want to talk to you. It's not my business. That's a really extraordinary kind of reaction on an ordinary number of people that way and an ordinary number of people in Hawaii don't vote, including Millennials who don't vote. And that's the scariest thing because that portends of new generations coming into the system in like fashion. That's right. It's a vicious cycle. If your parents vote, you're likely to be a voter. But if your parents don't, you're not. And so you have generations of children whose parents haven't voted, maybe their grandparents haven't voted, and they're not going to start the habit. Yeah.  Because if they do really nothing to educate themselves, if they don't look at even what's left of our newspapers, if they're just dealing on social media or less, how much will they know in order to make an informed decision? How qualified are they to vote? They're objectified by the public relations people, and, you know, they don't have their own independent thinking going on. Well, the hope would be that if they're starting to vote, they'd take it a little more seriously and pay a little attention to the issues. But it's true. I mean, I think the other part of the problem is because of the rise of social media, I mean, because of partisan television and news sources, people only get their news from a single source, or they get their news only from sources that they already agree with. And so you really do end up living in this echo chamber, which I think to me is the most disturbing thing. I'm actually more scared by voters who, you know, are unwilling to consider any piece of evidence that doesn't accord with their previously held beliefs than voters who are simply ignorant and are quite sure where all these issues are. Yeah. One of the points in this article in The Washington Post this morning, comparing Michelle Obama's remarkable speech yesterday with Trump's response to say everyone was lying, was they said that Fox did not carry Michelle Obama's speech. Well, how do you like that? Fox News knows their audience, although I think the Fox network is struggling in this election because there's been some pretty serious clashes between Trump and some of the Fox executives, even though Roger Ailes is now consulting for the campaign. But this is shameful. I mean, yes, it works. The business model works. That's the troubling thing. You can become a wealthy television network by telling people what they want to hear and never challenging them. And as you said, fewer and fewer people control the media. So it's not like there's a lot of voices. There's a few voice, a few owners controlling how a lot of people think in the country. Yeah. And there's this extent to which some of these television stations and even newspapers to a degree haven't been responsible in the way the journalistic ethics has taught in this country for years.  You shouldn't allow political figures to get away with telling things that simply aren't true on your station because you're worried about offending the audience. That goes against what the profession is supposed to stand for. And fact-checking isn't what it used to be. In the debate on Sunday, one thing was remarkable to me is that Trump would make, they would ask a question to Trump and he wouldn't even get within a hundred yards of asking an entry. He didn't, you know, he didn't, not even a pretense of answering the question. He'd go darting here and there and the other. Okay. And they never, except maybe on one occasion, never called him on it. And I think that's part of being a moderator. Somebody doesn't answer your question. You have to say, at least say that he didn't answer your question. I think comparatively they tried their best in that case to force him to answer a few questions. But it's a very difficult thing to moderate a debate and if someone's lying to you, not just sort of telling half-truths, but simply lying, that's a much more difficult thing to deal with as a journalist because you don't really want to say to a major presidential candidate, you know, you're lying. Everything you're saying is untrue.  That doesn't happen. But if they just simply say, no, I'm right. You're wrong.  And we're going to go to a break in the same fashion. All right. Hello. I'm Mary Ann Sasaki. Welcome to Think Tech Hawaii, where some of the most interesting conversations in Honolulu go on. I have a show on Wednesdays from one to two called Life in the Law, where we discuss legal issues, politics, governmental topics, and a whole host of issues. I hope you'll join me. Aloha. My name is Reg Baker, and I'm the host of Business in Hawaii with Reg Baker. We're a show that broadcasts live every Thursday from two to two-thirty. We highlight success stories in Hawaii of both businesses and individuals. We learn their secrets to success, which is always valuable. I hope to see you on our next show. Aloha. Aloha. I'm Carl Campania. I hope you please visit us this summer. It's a wonderful summer. It's actually a cooler summer than we're used to. But I hope that you come back and visit us and watch our show Education Movers, Shakers, and Reformers here on Think Tech Hawaii. It's at noon every Wednesday. See you then. We are so honored to have Colin Moore with us. He's an Associate Professor of Political Science at UH Manoa. He's also the Director of Public Policy Center there. We're so happy to have him with us to talk about politics nationally and in Hawaii. So the English word, surus, we have plenty of surus on the national level. Does that filter it into the local? It doesn't seem like it actually is. In some ways, how boring Hawaii politics is is somewhat refreshing right now. I mean, so yes, we have very few interesting races. Yes, the Democratic Party, the mainstream Democratic Party still seems to run the state and everything else. We don't have any problems with Republicans because we have no Republicans here. I mean, that's a separate problem, which is that we don't have the kind of vigorous electoral competition we should have. But it doesn't really seem to have affected us much here. People in Hawaii, we believe in government here. Yeah, that's true. What if you want to say Hawaii doesn't throw out the container? We believe in the system mostly. Yeah, we do. We're still a very progressive state. Big government has never gone out of fashion in Hawaii. I mean, that really dates to statehood and the extent to which the state was so instrumental in bringing a lot of people up out of poverty. So we're good. We're good new deal Democrats here. We may be the last. A couple of small things pop into my head just to ask you about. So what is happening with Colleen? Is there any resistance on her? Is she going to just sweep in? Oh, absolutely. I mean, the thing is that her Republican opponent, Shirley Nastrov, is actually a very good candidate. I mean, she's an retired Air Force colonel. She seems very articulate. You know, in most other Senate races, she would be a very competitive candidate. But here in Hawaii, I mean, in congressional races, but here in Hawaii in the first congressional district, there's just no hope. I mean, it's one of the most democratic districts in the country. So, yeah, Honobusa's just going to walk right in. And Brian Schatz, you won't even hear a sound there. He's just going to win, period. I think some people don't even realize he's a real reelection. So, yes, no, he doesn't. I mean, Schatz barely has any competition. Now, what about Rod Tam? He's running in the 26th District, and I think he's the only candidate for the State Senate, which is remarkable how, you know, in view of what happened to him last time around where it almost went to jail. What does that mean? What does this tell us? One thing I suggest to you, and might tell us, is that people don't want to run for office. I think that's it. They certainly don't want to run as Republicans, which is what Rod Tam is doing. I mean, he's going to get crushed by Karl Rhodes in the general election. But that's a really important point, actually, that the Star Advertiser did a story on this, and it was actually a representative, Bert Kobayashi, who did the analysis, who was pointing out that there are just very, very few competitive races this year. And there are very few new people, even potentially new people, who could enter the legislature. Only a single incumbent lost their seat in the primary. Interesting. Time for incumbents then. But is this connected somehow with the lack of interest we see by people who don't vote? What's the connection? I think there's a little bit of that. I mean, I think if we're likely to get a challenge in Hawaii, it's probably gonna be a progressive challenge from the left, not from a resurgent Republican party. You know, the Bernie progressives recently took over the Democratic Party here, but they really haven't been able to get a lot of progressive candidates to run. So I think it is in part a lack of interest. Part of it is, is that there really is only one party.   Dale Kobayashi, this is in the Manoa district. Dale Kobayashi was a strong candidate.  He came within striking distance, but it just shows you how hard it is to take on an incumbent. Even a relatively unpopular one, like Isaac Choi. And then Isaac Choi will win. That's it. He's got it. Yeah, it's all finished. So what about the mayoral race? That is kind of a big deal now. And there's a lot of accusations hurled back and forth. But what do we have here? Is this the same thing as PRP the last time around? Right. So not entirely. I mean, PRP was unique because it really brought in, you know, hard ball mainland-style politics combined with data analysis that we haven't seen. But the interesting thing to me about the mayor's race is it's shifted from being about rail, which it was initially, and the last one was as well, to because, did you more or less conceded that we're gonna continue to build the rail? Now it's more of a referendum on Caldwell and his ethical challenges, you know. Problems he's had with HPD, certainly problems with Chuck Tato. And people accuse him of forcing the city ethics director to leave.  So a lot of it is questions about Caldwell's ethics. The difference though is that Dijoux doesn't have the kind of campaign that PRP was able to run for Caldwell against Cayetano. You know, he has a few ads, but it's not the kind of relentless question of his ethics. Every day, and it's stuck, didn't it? It did stick. It did stick. And you know, that was, I mean, in some cases libelous. Yeah, yeah, well it was a lawsuit. Yeah, exactly, exactly. It went away, I think, ultimately, it was seven or something. They settled, yeah. But that was really bad election process. I hope we never see that again, yeah. Do we have PACS operating in this election, do you think? In Hawaii? Yeah. You know, that's the interesting thing. Not in a major way. PRP was the most famous one. We haven't seen anything on that level in this mayorals race. And I think it's because most of the big money folks think they're gonna get what they wanna get no matter what. There was a lot of money in rail. They contributed heavily to Caldwell's reelection campaign. But it looks like the rail's gonna be built no matter who wins. Well, yeah, they both say they build it. There's no need to invest that money. Yeah. Well, you know, it goes to the question of what unliquidated liabilities. Some people estimate it to be $40 billion. And it's like a noose, you know. And further we go down the track, the tide of the nooses. Exactly. How is this gonna play out in future elections? Because after a while, another tipping point. Yeah, it's gonna continue to be an issue. I mean, it's just gonna shift from, you know, questions not only about building the rail, but then supporting the rail. How are we going to continue to pay for its operational costs? But once it's there, I mean, and I'm hopeful it works out. I hope it doesn't become the white elephant that some people are worried it will. But I think it's always gonna be one of the central issues in a mayoral campaign because it's such a expensive infrastructure project for a relatively small city. You know, it would be fine if there were no other liabilities, or no other liabilities that might pop up all of a sudden, like the EPA requirement for Waikiki storage. Exactly. And that could exacerbate the whole issue about unliquidated liabilities. I think that's exactly right. Or the issue of the entire state pension and healthcare system. That will continue, I think, and become a more of a major issue, as I hope we don't, but as we could move to crisis with our unfunded liabilities there for public sector workers. So you have this body of millennials. And I hesitate to use that word, Colin, because I think the millennials are already so old that they're not millennials anymore. I'm technically a millennial. It gives you a sense of how old they get. But you know, we've been waiting, waiting for Godot, right? Waiting for the millennials to say something, do something, go out and vote, run for office, have a pro, whatever it is, they're not doing it. So I ask my students about this all the time. What are you guys doing? And their response is usually that they're active on social media, that they follow these issues. But it's not the same. In fact, it's why I require them in my class to go do something. They can work for a political campaign, they can volunteer for a get out the vote organization. And I always tell them, you have to do it in person. You have to talk to people. You can't do it online. Right, but they believe, they have been trained in their lives, their young lives to believe you can do everything by remote. Exactly, exactly. The power of social media is you can do it without touching anybody else. Yeah, you never have to leave you the comfort of your home to encounter people who might disagree with you or be very unfamiliar to you. I think it's really a profundity there. The more you see requires face on. It does. No, I mean, there's been many studies. I don't know if you've ever read Robert Putnam's Bowling Alone work, but many studies that show that it is that physical interaction that gives you more trust in your neighbor.  And that gives you faith that you can trust your fellow citizens. So who's the best bet on the mayor election? Caldwell. I think it's almost certain that Caldwell will win. He has, he's better financed. You know, there's, I think a ceiling to the anti-rail vote. And I don't think, what did you would have had to do was capture all of the Carlisle voters. And I don't think he's gonna do with them or do that. Now we don't have a gubernatorial race this year, but we will. And I wonder how you think that's going in terms of holding the electorate who elected him in the first place, you know, in for the second term. Well, that's a great question because E. Gay, of course, was elected primarily because he wasn't Neil Abercrombie. People didn't know a whole lot about him. He's not particularly popular. I mean, we don't have a lot of polls on approval ratings, but he should be doing better than he is for a heavily democratic state. I think he's trying more now, but query, can he do it? He certainly is, I think the question is, who will run against him? What's the alternative going to be? And I don't see a lot of strong potential candidates to take him on. I mean, most of the ones who could win or at least be competitive are probably gonna wait for him for another four years. Somebody in your class. Maybe so, somebody in your class. You never know. One last question, and then we gotta go. And that is, where does the native Hawaiian issue, you know, or issues play in the future of Hawaii politics? In, for example, that next race with David Ike, how is this gonna play out? Is it gonna be diluted at a certain point and sort of go away, or is it gonna get worse? Well, I think the interesting thing about the native Hawaiian politics is, I mean, the native Hawaiian community is incredibly good at contentious protest, I mean, drawing attention to their issues. That the problem though is, is that doesn't actually translate into widespread support. I mean, the telescope is a perfect example. There's been a lot of attention on it, there's a lot of legitimate arguments on both sides, but the truth of the matter is, the vast majority of people do support building the telescope. And so there's always this disconnect between the attention those issues receive and the fact that really people often disagree with the native Hawaiian community. And that's why the community, I think, intelligently goes to these confrontational political acts, because the ballot box doesn't work, exactly. We have to get back to the ballot box. Yes. We have to respect the system. Hopefully the millennials will have some say about that. I'm hopeful, I'm trying my best. Okay, I know you are. Thank you, Colin. My pleasure. I wonder if I'll have you down here and talk about these things. We'll do it again? All right, yes, of course. Aloha. Aloha.


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The following is a presentation of TFNN, The Trader's Edge, with Steve Rhodes. Call now toll free at 1-877-927-6648 or internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER>. The Trader's Edge. Now Steve Rhodes. Good afternoon folks, welcome to the terrific Tuesday the October 12th. Yeah, sorry it was just a lost track of the days, but it's the October 12th version of today's Trader's Edge show. So welcome to the show, I'm your host, Steve. Perseverance Rhodes, who absolutely knows that each of us should always be pioneers of our future versus prisoners of our past. Hope everyone out there is having a great day. Let's make sure we have an extraordinary one and the easiest way to do that is to always remember that life is happening for us, not to us. That's right, we do not make that one little two by four shift. Well, it means we can find a gift in every set of circumstance that life is going to toss at us. Now today you and I, we're going to go check out the circumstance of these markets. We're going to go figure out what those bulls and bears, what those buyers and sellers are communicating to you and I just past one o'clock in the afternoon. I want you to know I'm absolutely grateful for your presence here. The more important than that, and that's this. During this next 60 minutes, I'm here to serve you. So feel free to pick up that phone. You can dial on it at<PHONE_NUMBER>. If you can't dial in, well, we've got you covered there too. You can always let those fingers do the walking. You can send me an email, send it to Steve at tfnn.com inside that subject. And if you'd be kind enough to put radio show question and in our tiger's dead, any ping will do. So let's go ahead and get this show started on terrific Tuesday. Of course, this is Tiger Financial News Network. I'm Steve Rhodes. Welcome to the show right now. We've got the markets are mixed out here. You get the Dow's off 60. The S&P's down eight. Nasdaq one is off 53. Russell's up 11. Summizer off 52. Trendy's up 87. So we got a real mixed bag out here. Gold's up 6 bucks. Silver down 8 cents. Light's weak. Crude is flat. Natural gas up 7 cents. The 30-year treasury is up over one point. Trade out at $158.17. Dollar-wise to the upside, leading the charge is up spot. Up 89 bucks, 13 percent. Chipotle 22 bucks, a little over 1 percent. Solar Edge up 7.5 percent or 21 bucks. Upstart holding is 18. Mon God me. That's up 3 percent or 17. Buccaroonies. To the downside, it's Google. Lead the charge off 54 bucks. Micro strategy down 26. Sam Adams beer down 11. SVB Financial 11 as well. And DocuSign off 9. Buccaroonies. Is this YouTube? Not that I know of. I'm Stevie. I'm not YouTube. I don't know if it should be playing YouTube out there. But any of it, let's go take a look at these markets and see what are they doing? What are they doing? Let's go do this set of charts out here. Let's just change over real quickly. We're going to take a look at the NQ. The NQ, I believe, is primarily powering this market to the upside and to the downside. So here are some, this is another eight panel chart. I use this, this version of this chart when I'm trading the NQs because I like to understand what's going on in the different timeframes because each of those different timeframes can provide us with different information. Is it confusing to me? No, it's not confusing. I can take a look at the daily, for example, and on the daily chart, that's the upper left hand panel. What do we know about the NQ? Well, first, you don't see it here because I don't have the tool to show the A to B equal CD pattern, but it did form a Gartley buy pattern. Did it on this day right here, this day being, I think it was last Friday? No, why not on Friday? That's the six. Whatever the date, the six was out there. And that confirmed that pattern. But what price has been unable to do is close above that red oscillator and change line. So we know that that is resistance. But prices below that, we anticipate or expect that price would head south to where? Well, the next level of support for the daily timeframe is going to be the bottom of its profile, 14, 470. So that says we're headed south. Then they go take a look at the five hour chart. Well, what I see is that the bottom or when it did form a bottom, this was about 15 hours ago or so. Let me tell you exactly when that took place out here at four o'clock this morning. That's not 15 hours ago, Steve. That's just at four o'clock this morning. Well, at four o'clock this morning, the five hour timeframe chart generated a TD-9 count. So that's going to be your support level. Now, I'm sorry about that. Let me get this back here. If price closes below that level, that level being 14, 586, 50, that's just going to then move over to the daily timeframe and give us the additional information that price is likely to target 14, 470. Kind of see how I tried to, or I did put that together, between just simply a five hour chart and the daily timeframe. Now, as we take a look at the four hour chart, do I have any kind of signals out here? I do have wave number seven. That's letter g. That formed at exactly, let me give you the exact time on this one here, that formed at exactly six o'clock this morning. So I know at four o'clock this morning, we got a bottom signal at six o'clock. We got a bottom signal. If we take a look at the 120 minute timeframe chart, that bottom signal or wave number seven, letter g out here, that's courtesy of Basil Chapman. That came in at four o'clock as well. So clearly, the larger timeframes, when I say larger from an intraday specter, five hour, four hour, then two hour, certainly trying to signal to you and I that it is trying to form a bottom. Now, if those lows get taken out, they provide us with important information. Now we get down to the intraday charts. On the intraday time period, on a 60 minute chart, there's a TD nine count bottom at form. That is held. If we take a look at the 30 minute chart, you've got a rogement to indicator bottom that formed this morning at 330. That is held. Then you had a TD nine count top. So your real resistance level during the day, we've talked about downside action where price might go to, let's take a look at some upside action. And but in order to gain that upside action, not that price can't trade higher, but the real upside action would not take place until price closed above that TD nine count top. And that's at 1478325. We also know that right now price is trading into a support level. That's its breakout level 1463425. So price is pulling back there. What's going on on its shorter term time frames? For example, the 30 or the five minute on the 30 minute chart, I don't have anything other than coming back to the prior lows out here, but yet on a five minute timeframe chart, we're starting to see this had a TD nine count bottom, just as price was coming back to that breakout level in the 30 minute chart out here. So that tells us what, if there's going to be a rally inside the NQ, we need to watch level about 14661. Really level, I would say we have to watch is 14677. That is the center of its bearish structured profile. That should be the real resistance level. But the first one would be where it's oscillator and changes on oscillator on change line is in the bottom of that profile. So watch the 14661 price clears that then 14677 and if price clears that, that probably signals to you and I move up to the 14710 level. So what do we summarize here in the NQ? It's biases to the downside that is based upon the daily timeframe, but when we take a look at each of the other intraday charts out here, we see bottom signals that have form across the board. So we have to watch to see if those levels of support hold and if they don't, then that tells us on the daily timeframe that its message that price is going to go down and tag the 14470 level is the likely outcome. So hope that helps y'all with the NQ. Let's go out to Puerto Rico and speak with Phil. Phil, thanks for calling. Thanks for holding. How are you today? Do we have Phil on the line? That's great. We have Phil. Phil, are you there? I'm here. Can you hear me? I can. I can. How are you today? And thanks for calling. Are you in Puerto Rico right now? Oh, yes. Yes, I used to live off of Atlantic Avenue. I moved down here a few years back. I lived on Northeast First Court. Oh, well, cool. I lived off the Palm Trail. Yeah, cool, cool. And so what took you to Puerto Rico? Well, the incentives in Florida was getting a little too crowded for me. Okay. All right. And now you've been through a couple of storms recently, yes. Well, I actually came down right after the bad one, Maria. Perfect. Hey, can you hear me? Phil, we're about to go to a hard break. If you'd be kind enough to hold on, we'll come back. We'll talk. We'll take a look at ADTX for you as well. This is Steve Rhodes with Phil in Puerto Rico. We'll be back in about three minutes, folks. Steve Rhodes started his trading career as a student almost 20 years ago, and the student has now become the master. Steve won the prestigious Timer of the Year award in 2018 and barely missed that mark again in 2019, finishing at number two for the year. An amazing accomplishment. Steve Rhodes is committed to sharing his techniques and knowledge with anyone who wants to learn. And he shares his vast amount of trading knowledge every day in his Mastering Probability newsletter. 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Maybe not the electrical grid, but for most stuff, yes. That's true, that's true. So you want to take a look at ADTX. That is Atatix Inc. out here, trading at $1.85 right now. Tell me what you're doing and how I can best help you. You know, I've been swinging this for a little over a year, had some success with it. Just wanted to see if you see any type of bottoming pattern on your technicals. Okay, sure. So let's pull over in the white background charts because that will get really right to it. And do I see some kind of bottoming pattern out here? So when I look at the daily time frame, although I can't draw it in, I am certain that there's probably an A to B equal CD pattern here, but I don't see anything else. What I can share with you though, as we do take a look at this daily time frame chart, any idea, just by the way, because you followed the stock, what took place on August 25th when this thing gapped up to about the 260 area and got all the way up to $4, I'm assuming that wasn't a bad tick out there. It said, you know what, and then it just simply gave up the ghost.  Yeah, that was on news that they broke ground on an extension. It's an assay test. So it's a new type of COVID test. It was just news that they broke ground on an extension of their manufacturing facility. They can increase the output of the test and shift them worldwide, which I believe launches this quarter. So here's what I can share with you, is where are the battleground levels for you? If you're in this position or you're looking to possibly get in it. And that's at $1.97. So this had a fairly decent move to the upside. It gave up price on August, I'm sorry, on October the 5th. But what it did was it really tested its TD9 breakdown level. So the first level of resistance that you're watching, whether I have a bottom pattern or not, is going to be $1.97. If you can get two consecutive closes above that, then that would signal that price should make its way back to the 289 level that's coming off the daily timeframe. See if there's any kind of a bottoming signal on the weekly chart out here, of course. And the answer is there is not. So what do we have on the weekly? I'm going to move off this white background chart, take a look at our black background chart. So what we'll see here more clearly is the top of its daily profile. That's a resistance levels at $2. So I believe we had like a $1.96. I moved that chart off my screen or so on the daily timeframe. We've got $2 on the weekly. Now on the weekly chart here, this is a brand new bullish structured weekly profile field that formed last week. Okay. When price closes above the center of that, that would be $2. And I don't mean 201. I guess what I do mean here, let me give you a figure. If price closes above 219, then what that signaling to you is that this could move all the way back to 395. That is the top of the weekly profile. And that's really all that I see here. So nothing from a daily or a weekly standpoint with regard to the bottoming signals that I look at, not every chart is going to bottom with those patterns there. And that's another reason why we take a look at TD9 count breakdown levels. That was the level we took a look at on the daily timeframe, the weekly profiles or any daily profiles on it. By the way, price is trading above its daily profile, which is a buck 81, but that doesn't get my skirt to float up. Price has got a close above that TD9 breakdown level field in order for this to have some meaning to the upside. Right. Makes sense. Well, it's a tremendous methodology you have and I appreciate your time. Well, thank you. And we appreciate you listening and enjoy Puerto Rico. Well, hey, I wish I could enjoy a lunch at 54 with you, but I'm too far.  You know what? I'll shoot you now and we'll meet over there. How about now? You do that. You do that or we'll walk over to my beach club and we'll watch the waves coming either way. Hey, you have a great week, Steve. I appreciate it. You too, Phil. Thanks so much for calling. That was Phil in Puerto Rico. Let's see here. So we do have a question that's coming in. Let me get to that here. We don't want to fall behind. Oh, there's a few questions look like the first one coming in from from Brent in Martinez, California. So Brent says you're watching M. You have no position at present. So let me just at least get this fired up out here and I can go back and take a look at it. Let me get the chart on our screen or three panel screen out here. And so as we take a look at MU, that is Micron Technology. So you've got no, so let's see. You've got no position present. It would be for a long trade. Looks like an A to B equal CD pattern starting to form. Okay, you've given me the dates. You've got recycling. Thanks as always. Have a great day. What any areas you can identify to the downside? TD or TAS levels, that would be helpful. So let's go take a look at that. Just try to get right to the guts of it. And Brent, I've got bad news for you. So with regard to TAS market profile levels, we've got none as Micron Technology is blown through all of them. That is the daily bullet structured profile. There was a close below that yesterday. You're going to certainly have a close below that today. You're well below the weekly profiles. You're now below the monthly profiles out here. So now let's go to Stevie's white background chart. See if there's any signals for us on the daily timeframe. Let's get to the daily timeframe first. Well, okay. So if this, let's get to the actual current data. There we go. No, that's the weekly. Hello, Stevo. Okay. So here's the daily. Let's get this thing populated. Oh man, bad news. So yesterday, Brent was the bar following bar number nine of a TD9 count, but it wasn't really even a valid TD9 count because bar seven was the count. So we don't have anything there. Yeah, I'm going to come take a look at the weekly chart. So then the daily, yeah, you would have an A to B equal CD to the downside. I'll draw that in. We go to the black background charts on the weekly chart to see that Rosemont to Mindicator top. This suggests Brent that price might be pulling back to its breakout level of 54, 36 or 65 and change right now. The monthly chart for Micron, what do we have here? Nothing good. And I won't tell you the $26.85 breakout level that it could trade back to. Because we're really not there just yet. First price could have to get through the 54, 36 area. So we know there's no good news there. Let's go take a look at some A to B equal CD patterns out here. And where do we want to start? Let me expand out the daily chart. There are so many A to B equal CD patterns that we could draw in here. Let's draw in the original one. And the original one, and this is just taking the chart back to a March of last year, the high of April 12, 2021. And Brent, I can't tell because the writing that comes on in your email is really small. And Stevie's eyes out of my glasses on. They, it's really hard for me to read that. That's not your fault. That's a Stevie issue. But here's the A to B equal CD that I see out here. And again, that was starting with the high for the A point on April 12. The B point out here looks like low on May 19. About a 46 or 50% retracement up in a June 1. And the one to one, and I think this is what you're looking at because price is getting down there, is $64.95. So if this does generate some type of bullish reversal candle, that would be a pattern most certainly to look at. If price doesn't generate that bullish reversal candle, this is telling us about $59.30 as a price target. So I don't see anything just yet inside of Micron Technology. Brent, thanks so much for writing in. We'll be right back folks. Steve Rhodes with TFN. You having fun trading the markets, but having trouble finding like-minded individuals to discuss your trading and investment ideas with? Become an apex predator in the trading markets and join the Tiger's Den trading room only at tfnn.com. The Tiger's Den is an exclusive trading room where successful traders from around the world come to exchange trades and ideas. Join the den and surround yourself with the sharpest minds in the trading world. Subscribers to the Tiger's Den are also the first to have their questions answered live on air and can privately chat with our TFNN hosts live during their shows. Interact with other Tigers and Tigers as they share trading ideas, news analysis, and discuss the market action all trading day. 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Get your copy of The Art of Timing the Trade charts today by visiting TFNN.com. The Think or Swim banner on the front page of TFNN.com. Welcome back, folks. So we're going to take a look at Platinum for Ruby inside the Tiger's Den. And as we take a look at the January 2022 contract, that is the active contract. We can see an A to B equals CD pattern to the upside. The first price target is $1,056. The second price target would be $1,088. We see that price to trade above the top of its daily profile has been for the last two days. Looks like today may be the same. So that is a bullish message out here. But why did price stop where it did? Well, we can draw some trend lines out there. If we put the trend lines on there, we can see that. But if we bring over, let me keep those out there anyways, because in any event, let's just pull over my other Platinum chart and we'll really see the battleground area for you, Ruby. And that's going to be the TD9 breakdown level. And that's at $102850. So that is the level that you're looking for price to close above. It tested it yesterday, rejected it, tried it two days ago, rejected it. Doesn't mean you sell, because price is above both its oscillator and change line above the top of its profile. So right now you're in between support, which is $99890, could be all the way down at $975, but right now it's $99890, and you've got resistance at $102850. So your price closes above that, you're in pretty good shape. Let's go take a look at that shape by looking at the weekly chart out here. The weekly chart, that's because I've got the January contract, not a ton of data, but enough data for you to know that price did pull back to a breakout support level of $94770, held it, and did it with a bullish reversal candle. So that's not too shabby out here on a short-term basis with regard to the 30-minute. This forms a TD9 count bottom. It does it at 2100 hours. This was last evening, today the 12th? Yeah, today's the 12th. So it does that last evening, nothing else out here. $102820 is a key level for you to look at, but really this all boils down to $102850 on the daily timeframe chart, Ruby. So that's your resistance level. Price can clear that. You should be off to the races. So I hope that helps you out. Thank you so much for the request. The next request, and it is the last request that we've got in the system right now. So folks, I would love to hear from you either in through the Tiger's Den, you can send me an email again, steve at tfn.com or the preferred method. It gives a call like Phil did at<PHONE_NUMBER>. Well, how about that? Hector wants to take a look at Micron as well. So Hector says happy two for Taco Tuesday. Good. He's got a second one we can look at. And that is MU is being oversold today, any bottom in sight. So we really covered that. Hopefully you heard that review. Victor, I'm sorry, Hector. If not, maybe just a re-queue up in about an hour or so when they get this today's show posted. But your second request for Exxon Mobile. So let me get over to my set of charts out here. We can punch that into the system. So XOM is a ticker symbol. Let me get that going on the white background charts as well. And then let's go ahead and read Hector's question, which goes like this. XOM entry point for run into the spring time next year. Okay. Well, that's pretty simple. So as we take a look at Exxon Mobile right now, what we know is price is trading above the top of its daily weekly profiles. That says, Hector, that your next price target to the upside, unless we see some kind of topping signal on the daily timeframe out here, is going to be $64.92. So price is going to have to clear that $64.92 level before that says price is going to move into higher highs into the spring time out there. But let's bring over the white background charts. See what other signals Hector might be able to find here. Well, if we're wondering why price stopped where it did today, it's because it was dealing with its TD9 breakdown level. So even though price is above all those profiles, we certainly do want to know where those TD9 breakdown areas are. They can act as support or resistance out here. In this case, this is resistance. The breakout levels would be the support area. That's down to 41 bucks. We're not there. If price can close above $62.76, then you should be off to the races. Those races, Hector, will take you up to $71.36. That's the next TD9 breakdown area out there. Your question was, you're looking for an entry point. That was the monthly chart. That's the monthly chart, by the way, that I was looking at. My apology. I thought it was daily. So all of that was referencing the monthly, the weekly chart. Oh, Stevo, slow down. Okay. So that was the weekly chart that we were looking at, Hector. So $62.76, that is a key level that you'd like to see price close above. But as long as price remains above, it's oscillator and change line on top of the weekly profile. In the $59.80 area, there's nothing wrong with this. Now let's get to the daily chart out here. Okay, here's the daily. Let's get this thing populated. And what do we have? So you have a TD9 count pattern. So Valentini 9 count, that took place on the trading day of October 5th. Even though yesterday's move opened above that price, it never negated the pattern. Price needed to close above that. It did not. That remains in effect. So Hector, the first level on a daily chart that ExxonMobil is signaling to you and I that price is going to go ahead and pull back to an oscillator and change line. That's currently printing at about $60.48. The reason we suggest that that's likely outcome is because that oscillator and change line changed colors about two weeks ago. And we know that over time, that line and price will catch up to each other. Especially happens when that changes color. This took a little bit longer than normal, but that is likely move. So the question Hector becomes, should you buy this at $60.48 out there? And should you buy this, knowing that your resistance, your key resistance level, was that weekly area at $62.76? You have to have a real compelling reason out there. And I would think with regard to ExxonMobil, that compelling reason is going to have to come from Lightsweed Crew, which right now is still in the November contract. So we'd really go take a look at that, but you're asking me specifically for a buy point, not to take a look at Lightsweed Crew or anything like that. I'd have to go with $60.48.  Now, maybe it's not the $30, maybe it's the $65, or maybe it's the $130, or maybe it's the $195 out there, but you want to see those bottoming signals. We don't have those as we speak right now on the 30-minute chart, but that's how you would go ahead and put those things together. The 65-minute chart says, yeah, I want to pull back further, although it's going to form bar number eight right now. So you could see a short-term bottoming pattern over the course of the next couple of hours. But the thing is, Lightsweed Crew looks good, but then let me pull over the Lightsweed Crew chart out here. Let me just take a quick peek with you, Hector. And so the daily chart looks good, and definitely no topping pattern out here. It looks like this wants to continue to move higher on a weekly basis. What do we have out here? I believe we have the same. Bar number seven on a TD9 count. So everything does look pretty good. I just rather you get a deeper pullback inside of ExxonMobil, and that deeper pullback would be about $58.31. The problem is, Hector, I don't have anything on the charts to suggest that that's what's going to happen. So hope that helps you out. Thanks so much for writing in, and you have a terrific Tuesday as well. Let's go out to Ron and Denver. Ron, thanks for calling. Thanks for holding. How are you today? Hello? Ron? On a weekly basis, what do we have out here? I believe we have... Hey, Ron, can you hear me? I can hear you at the N9 count. So are you there? Yeah, I think we were picking up the audio in the background, maybe coming off your computer or so. So if you can manage that thing. All right, I'll get that down. Okay. Yeah, no problem at all. So you want to take a look at UNG, the Natural Gas ETF, I believe. Tell me what you're doing, how I can best help you. Well, I bought a couple calls on me this morning on UNG, because it looked like Natural Gas pulled back, and UNG pulled back. Is that look like a good move on UNG? I just wondered. Sure. So if I would only look at the UNG charts, let me pull that up first. I would say, yeah, that's a good move. It looks like a good move to me. And the reason that I would say that is because price pulled back into a bullish structure daily profile. And the bottom of that profile is 1834. Today's low is 1827, traded 1898. So Ron, if we were just only going to use the UNG chart to make our determination and answer your question, you just answered it. Yeah, that would be a good buy because of being at a bullish structure profile. But do me a favor, hang on through this break. We'll come back and we'll take a look at the UNG charts, but we're certainly going to go look at Natural Gas to assist you as well. This is Steve Rhodes with Ron and Denver. We'll be back in about three to four minutes, folks. Are you in the market for buying or selling real estate in the Bay Area, including the surrounding St. Petersburg, Tampa and Clearwater markets? Tiger Real Estate, LLC is a firm that has extensive experience in the Tampa Bay Area. 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So is that okay as opposed to just looking at UNG? Yeah, but there's no... There should be. You guys in the den, do you see it? Oh, I see. Let me try another. I did something. It should be on YouTube. Now, it should be on YouTube. There should be eight white backgrounds. Oh, yeah, Sarah. Okay, fair now. Okay, perfect. So, well, let's just start from the long term, which is the upper left, and work our way into the short term time frame charts out here. So, on the upper left, here's one thing that we know. Natural gas got up to the highs in 2014. That was at $6.49 out there. There was a shooting star. And oddly enough, that is where price found resistance, really where it should have. So, you know, you've got a long-term resistance level that has been hit. If you ever see price trading above $6.49, you know that natural gas is going to take off to the upside and could get quite expensive. On the weekly time frame chart, so we know the price of resistance and backed off. No topping pattern or anything along those lines, at least not yet. On a weekly chart, you had a... Maybe there's an A to B equal CD pattern that we can find. You get a bearish shooting star candle a couple of weeks ago. But price would need to hold below $5.10. That's the current weekly oscillator and change line. So, that's important for you because that is an important support level. If you start seeing price trading below $5.10, your UNG trade is probably not going to be in a very good position. On the daily time frame, this has a rogment to indicator top. Now, what price did yesterday is it pulled back and attested the top of that daily profile. So, very similar to what UNG did. So, at least from a profile standpoint, you have a benchmark, even if you're not taking a look at the natural gas contract, to realize that that's an important level of support. And if price closed below that level inside of UNG, in the case of natural gas, it's $5.38 out there, that's going to then suggest... Now, it's got to be a close below. Not like a spike below that we've seen intraday here, but an actual close below. If price does close below that, then it really sets up the more ideal buy points. And those are more ideal buy points because this is a bullish structured daily profile for the November natural gas contract is between $4.92 and $5.07. So, I'm not saying... You are in a level of support that is held. If price closed below $5.38, you should expect or anticipate to move to the $4.92, $5.07, even $4.60. Any questions about that so far? No, no. Okay. Very clear. So, now, thank you. So, now let's move to the 30-minute chart. And the 30-minute chart says that between now $1.45 in the afternoon and $2.30, natural gas should take a timeout. In a shade, take a timeout, and price should pull back. The reason that we draw back inclusion is because you have a confirmed TD-9 count-top. I made an error. I said between now and $2.30. It's really between now and 2 p.m. So, here's the cool thing that you can use for that trade. This pattern. And that is, right now, the current high of this session is $5.471. If you see a close above that, that says this pattern has failed and you have a strong upward momentum move on the 30-minute time frame. But even if it's on the 30-minute time frame, that's okay for you because that could take price up to, just trying to find it, about $5.79. So, whatever this high is, do you have the actual natural gas contract run? I can, I know I don't, but I know I can find it. Yeah, I can find it. So, the price level to watch right now, and let's assume that that high holds, is going to be $5.507. If you see price, let me just make sure that's what it, yeah, that's it. So, if you see price trading above that, you're going to like that for your trade. If not, price is going to pull back. Pull back to where? $5.36. Is that oscillator and change line right now? That would be the downside target. Now, that price might move up or down, but that's what you would be looking for. And the danger there is, that's at $5.36. And the bottom of that, or the top of that week, a daily profile is $5.38. So, it's going to be real close here, likely as the signal going into the close today. So, I leave you like with this information, natural gas hits resistance on the monthly backs off. You've got a weekly sell the D point, nothing has failed. If price close below $5.10, that's not going to be good for you. If price fails at $5.30, you're looking most likely to move down to the $4.92 area out here. And that's all I see on the charts. A 60-minute, you know, looks pretty good. But I think the 30-minute is the one for you to keep your eye on right now. Don't be surprised if you see a retracement. Super. Thank you. Thank you very, very much. I appreciate that. Hey, you bet. Ron, thanks so much for calling. Have a great day. All right. Let me take a quick peek here. Folks, see if there's any other questions that have come in by email. It looks like we do have a few. And that's going to be a struggle, probably, to get to them all. But let's take a look at one from Joe. Joe wants to take a look at the JNUG out here. That is the junior nugget. That is, I believe, a long position, but let me get it up on the screen out here for the junior miners, JNUG. And let me switch charts here for you, folks. So give me pages. This screen's my screen. So let's get to this screen. And now what I also need to do is to get back to a set of charts that I can go ahead and pull up so that we can do a review of this instrument. This instrument, again, being JNUG. So JNUG, let's read the question. Can you please look at junior nugget? And at what price do you see an entry for a long position? So this is trading at $61.93. I don't know why this is not pulling up, but come on, pull up. Oh, there we go. OK. So let's pull over the junior nugget. Now, the junior nugget, Joe, gave you the entry point a week and a half ago or so. It did it with his TD9 Count bottom on September 29th. And today is what, the 12th out here. So that was your bottom signal. Now, I'm not going to suggest that you get into this trade right now because price is taking on its key resistance level. And that's at $61.72. And $61.72 is the TD9 breakdown resistance level. If price closes above that, and it's trading just slightly above it right now, that will be a positive and suggest that price will want to move up. Of course, your question is, well, then where is the entry point? So you'd have to be looking for some type of retracement. And that retracement that you'd be looking for, I would go, Joe, to a short-term timeframe chart, such as a 30-minute chart out here, and look for some type of bottoming pattern. We don't have that right now. I wish I could show you what that would look like, but we just don't have that. So I'm going to suggest right now, while price is dealing with resistance, we don't know if it'll clear it or not, is to hold off. Then with regard to, if it doesn't clear this level of $61.72, where is your entry area? Short of a pattern on a short-term timeframe, I would say look in the $54.68 area. Not that $59.11 can't be a support level. That's the top of the daily profile. It's just not the ideal trade setup for you. The better trade setup would be for price to pull back to the oscillator and change line. And of course, then you're going to have to grapple with the fact that price would be moving lower and do you buy it. That's why I say you go to the short-term timeframe charts, look for that bottoming pattern, and at least that would give you the signals that you're looking for. So I hope that helps you out, Joe, with regard to Junior Nugget. 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That's<PHONE_NUMBER>. Don't forget, you can listen to TFNN live on your mobile device 24 hours per day. Go to TFNN.com and hit Watch Tiger TV. That's TFNN.com and hit Watch Tiger TV. Welcome back, folks. So we've got five questions in the queue. Don't know that I can get to those in two minutes, back to Dennis's question. He's asking about what's the outlook for the next month or so. First, Dennis, we are in the favorable seasonal cycle. It typically begins right about now. So if things are on track, we should see a market that moves higher into the end of the year. We typically look for bottoming signals in the indices to form that opinion. And on the trading day of October, the fifth out here or six, I should say, the NQ generated a bullish hammer candle. That completed the A to B equal CD down pattern. It did a rising trend line. And that was a Gartley by pattern. What price has been unable to do is take out resistance. Resistance is the top of that profile, $14,986. If that outcome of price moving up higher through the end of the year is going to come, we're going to see price close above $14,986.65. The concern there right now is that price is below the bottom of its weekly profile, Dennis. And that's at $14,802. It's only Tuesday. But a close below that level on Friday and then next week is going to suggest, forget the seasonal cycle. There's something else going on because the NQ, which can drag everything lower, would generate for us a signal of a change in trend. We do not have that at Tuesday at $155, or I'm not willing to make that call. We need to let the candle close out at session. And that does not come until Friday. So that's the best that I've got for you. You know where resistance is at. You also know the concern. And I hope that that helps you out. Thanks much for writing in. The next question coming in from Pradeep. Pradeep wants to take a look at Tesla out here. So I'll just pull the Tesla chart up. I'm going to be fairly quick with these. Tesla on a daily basis. This looks good. Once it continue higher, what do you mean good? It's trading above the top of its profile on the screen. Oscillator and change line should seek out higher price. As we take a look at the weekly chart, it too looks good. Prices above a TD9 breakdown resistance. This suggests Tesla is going to make its way back to its highs out there. The last question that I can get to, if I can do it in time, is to take a look at what? Facebook for Michael. Facebook right now is not a buy, but it does have wave number seven. That's letter G. And it does have a roadsmint to indicator signal in play. A bullish reversal candle would confirm a bottom, but a real confirmed bottom is a price close above 332. Folks, stay tuned. You've got two more great hours left. David whites up next with the power trading hour. Tom O'Brien, he'll take us on home and I'll be back with you tomorrow on wonderful Wednesday. Have a terrific Tuesday, folks.