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I cannot see. We're about to set up our big cap for the Okai and the brand that we're starting, which is very exciting. I was gonna, I almost had to do to remind you to bring that, but I was like, show me. Honestly, I don't think if, if we, I would have liked on it, how do we not talk about it just the last week. Okay. Or my dad brought it up to me. Dad's are always right. Dad's are always right. Okay, well, subscribe if you're new here. Welcome to a week in my life vlog. Honestly, this is gonna be a lot of new year prep this week. I've decided that's my vibe for the week. What's your prep? New year prep because I'm going to New York for New Year's Eve. I come back for four days and then they go to LA for a week. Yeah. And I know I'm gonna wanna organize and declutter and all that, so this week that's what I'm doing. I'm prepping for the new year. That's exciting. You know? It is so bright. I actually can't see anything. If you guys want, revenue house five is 10% off until the 20th. If not, go buy it. Link below. Have a good day. All right, guys. Happy Monday. We just set up the O-Kinds bank account. We have money in there. Our money. We didn't make money, but very exciting. So we've been working all morning. I get coffee with my dad every Monday at like seven, like really early. I'm about to go to Pilates. I'm meeting Michelle. She's coming with me. If you guys want to go to Pilates in Dallas to go to Shine Hop Pilates, you can use code JoinKindly for a free first cost, which is like crazy. It's the most similar to Hop Pilates that I found in LA that I loved. I really like it. I got a smoothie. We've got a lot happening today. It's a very productive week. Feeling good. I have my workout stuff on out underneath. All right, I'm home and apparently the shelf. Oh my God. I got another shelf because we're gonna use my garage to hold inventory for the O-Kinds. So I just want to get everything organized. I mean, it's taller than the other one, but I don't care. Oh wait, it's...no. I mean, it's pretty much the same. How did you do that that fast? Anyways, tomorrow Dana and I are gonna go through.  The insulation has just like really fallen off. I needed that to be taller because that'll be good for when I have like the Christmas trees and stuff, having everything here and then just getting like we're doing a garage makeover tomorrow. Everything is going to be perfect. It's gonna be so organized also. This is gonna be difficult. I want these mats under the treadmill. That's gonna be hard tomorrow, but like I believe in us. So it's gonna be good. This is all gonna be organized again. I mean, I'm gonna feel so good about it. Just absolutely incredible. We can put on podcasts on the TV. We'll need another extension cord for that. I'm home from Pilates. I met up with Michelle there. It was such a good class. My favorite teacher so far is Adam. I love them all, but Adam like plays the music that I love and it's just such a good workout. Okay, so like I said, this week is all about a new year prep. I am traveling so much, traveling for New Year's Eve and like in the new year. I know I'm gonna be really antsy to come back and get everything organized. I'm going to declutter my kitchen today. Tomorrow is the garage, which is the bigger project. I need to do the kitchen. I just have so much PR that I'm so grateful for, but like one person can never use all this stuff. So I need to figure out like what I'm using, what I'm not using, and then I can probably donate, I'm thinking, or give away to friends. And I don't have enough room for like to go cups right now or even like a place for like dog stuff. So I need to go through that cabinet because I know I can get rid of some stuff. And then just we'll be able to put it in the garage tomorrow. I need to go through the pantry. Honestly, my bathroom really needs to. The closet in my closet room, the shelves all fell down. So not only do I need to go through that, but I also need to get that all fixed and re-done. I don't want to wait until the New Year to like start on my new goals and stuff. We have a goal-setting meeting this week for the Okai and for myself. We're already working on brooding housewife stuff. So that's why I've just already been getting into a workout routine. I already scheduled all five of my workouts. Question for you guys. I'm thinking about the YouTube next year and obviously I'm just like adding other things, so it's going to be busy. Should I just stick to doing one week in my life vlog a week, making that vlog really good? And then if I do that, do you want another video? And what would it be? I could post twice a week, one week in my life vlog. And then one could be another video, whatever you guys think it should be. But let me know. I know week in my life vlogs are my favorite and honestly people say they like daily and stuff, but like the week in my life vlogs always get a lot more views, meaning that you guys like care to watch it. So let me know what you guys want to see on my channel next year. I'm just trying to like get ahead of it and just, you know, get some things going. But anyways, I made some salmon and carrots for lunch. I'm going to eat that. I'm going to watch something and then we're going to get to organizing and cooking today and reading. That's what I'm doing. I had a wild weekend and I need just to be home. You know, also I showered and I have so much oil on my skin and a lip mask because my skin has just been so dry. Getting a hydra facial this week. What else am I doing? I think I'm getting laser. I think I'm starting laser.  So I'm going to go through this cabinet, a little bit of that cabinet and this cabinet. It is awful. Like look at this guys. It should never, ever, ever, ever look like that, ever. This one is just so crammed. Honestly, like that is pretty much all PR. I have so much stuff and like so much collagen. I love collagen, but I'll just never be able to as like a single girl be able to consume that much collagen. This is actually, I've been tried all of them that I have, but Vital Protein's Collagen is an OD favorite of mine. I have so many supplements, all of which I really love this stuff. Like I love helmet. I love everything. I love being like all of it, but it's just too much stuff. I have too much stuff. So I'm going to go through. I put on an episode of the toast and my goal is to eat out the kitchen by the end of it. So I have about 45 minutes, nothing crazy, but this definitely feels a lot better and I have room for my mugs again. You know the important ones. I have a lot of Dolly Parton mugs, don't mess with Texas mugs, you know the important ones. That is done. Now we're going to move on to this one, which is going to really be the big kicker. That literally took me five minutes and I feel like a new person. I mean look at the difference. I also have this one under here. This first off is Tupperware and like it's just not good. Here, here's a little mini ironing board.  So I'm going to also go through this because this is like a mess and needs to be fixed. I have a lot of stuff to just kind of like go through and throw away. But I'm feeling so good about this. Oh, you know what? Well, I did move this stuff because I do need stuff for like room for two go mugs. I think I can put them back there. The shot glasses also go in here, but I'm thinking I can put like to go. This is a merch guys. This is old that I made myself. Little arts and crafts. We are working on some more merch though, don't worry. This is for the green thing. This right here like has to go all the way up there because I don't even know when I would use that next. All right. This was stuffed all the way to the back. I didn't even know. I have a few things that I put back in there to keep.  So I have treats, pet corrector, spray for the Kong, all that. This is bone broth. That's like a powdered bone broth. So just going to stay there. Granola. That's just stuff I grabbed for a lot, but this feels like so much better. Oh my God. I somehow just basically did the kitchen in 25 minutes. So I'm feeling really good about myself. All right. I'm currently boiling the chicken. And then I have onions, carrots, celery. I'm about to add some garlic, just kind of saute these before I add in the rest of the stuff for soup. I just added the chicken stock and then also garlic right before that. All right. So I added some broth. Brought that to a boil and then I added egg noodles and chicken. Let that boil a bit and now it is good to go. It seriously is like the easiest thing to make and it is so much better homemade. Obviously, like pretty much everything is better homemade, but especially chicken noodle soup. I just love making soups. They're so easy. They're so good. I just, it's my favorite thing to make honestly. It's like what I'm constantly making. The reel will be on my Instagram if you guys are interested. I'm now in bed shopping on the reel reel. I used to hate Balenciaga city bags and now I, I love them. I don't know what happened. I used to hate these bags and now I'm like, ooh, love. Guys, I have a guest for you. Loga. What do you have to say, Dom? Y'all been being on your best behavior. I've been watching Kelsey's videos along with you. See that she's getting healthier. She's, she's having a little wholesome girl winter. I see Kelsey. I saw you a little grocery haul. You cooking now girl. You doing your thing on my wholesome girl winter. But I'm happy that one of us is. Yeah. That's Kelsey. That's fair. Oh, what Dom? You. Oh, thank you. Wow. You can do this together, girl. Uh-huh. Guys, Fitz has a bully stick and he has been so entertained all day long. I've never seen him so happy. There you go. I'm making tea with Dom. Guys, Dom's in New York and she's kind of not thriving in New York, which I told her. Dom, tell them why you don't like New York. I have a cold and I want you guys to know that this city is not for the faint of heart, you guys. It's really the walking for her. It's the walking. It's the going. Sorry, I didn't mean to cast, but I just got really overwhelmed with emotion. Oh, wait. Hey, Jess is calling me.  Oh yeah. Show her. Okay. Okay. Screen record this. Will you screen record too? I would love to. Are you ready? No, I was going to open it with you. Okay. Ready? No. This is so crazy. The tag. I mean, get ready. I feel so like legit.  I just can't believe those are ours. I know. It's so crazy. I mean, wow. I'm making some chamomile tea as I'm facetiming all of my friends. Oh, we should have just done a group facetime with Dom. I just hung up on you to her to answer you, but maybe we'll. Good morning, guys. It's 7.30. I'm about to head out to Pilates. This is my Pilates outfit. Wearing my Birkenstocks. I haven't worn these in forever. They've just been sitting in my closet. So unlike me, this morning my mirror just fell. Nothing happened, but it just fell. So that was scary. Last night, I just hung out. It was just such a cozy night at home. I finished the book always in December and it was sweet. I took too long to read it for whatever reason. If I take more than three days to read a book, I'm just over it. There are parts of it that I liked. It just felt really long. It's not a must, but I see why people like it. Honestly, it just really made me sad. About to head out to Pilates. After that, I have an appointment to get a hydrofacial. I love hydrofacials. You leave and your skin is instantly glowing. It's like the craziest thing I've ever seen. So about to head out.  I'm out of Pilates. It was great.  I'll take you through. You guys can also use Code Kinsey 20 for 20% off. I'm just really hitting you guys with some codes this week. Not sponsored or paying or anything, but if you guys want to go, this is where I get my Botox and hydrofacials, which is what I need. My skin has just been so dry. So I need to go. Also, my friend texted me to get chilies tonight. So obviously I'm having a great day. Oh my God. Guys, it's so festive. So my skin is always like a little bit red, but my pores just disappear. Like it is so wild. My skin feels so much better. Anyways, it's 1030. I need to go home, shower, make breakfast, and then Dana's coming over. We're organizing my house all day today. Very exciting. But I just needed to get it done before the New Year. So it's not like all my mind as I'm traveling. It just creates so much anxiety and stress for me. So I'm going to do it all this week and feel really good about it. My kitchen already feels better. We've got the garage, the closet in my closet room, maybe my bathroom. We'll see. It's going to be beautiful. Everybody live with a millennial and is this what happens when they do? All right guys. I'm showered. Dana showed up with coffee. This just feels like way bigger than a minty. I'm telling you. I really think it is. It really is. She agrees. But we're going to be the home at it today on Netflix. So it's really exciting. Here's my cozy outfit for the day. I'm wearing Soma. I love Soma lingerie. It's so good. And the pajamas. I have my coffee. Let me show you my order. There's no tag on here. But it's the vanilla supreme cold brew. But instead of vanilla, I get peppermint. This has got to go. Water damage ruined this ottoman. I have some skim stuff I need to hang up here. I've got so much. This is already like overflowing. I mean, look at how good this coat is guys. It's just so good. You know what else I really need to do? I need to go through my workout, like fitness wear and donate some. Because I have two full drawers. I have way too much stuff now. And it's just getting to be a bit much. Oh, I don't know if I even showed you guys these. I got them last week. They're black pumps. My stylist sent over. A style by Brittany on Instagram. And I just really needed some. These are under $100. They're really comfortable. If you're a wimp with heels, like I would definitely recommend these. Because they are just so comfy. They're just like a very like good shoe. I love them. And they're not too high or anything. They're just perfect basically. I'm so tired. Can you tell? Also I'm so sore now. I'm so afraid to open this guys. The shelves fell and I just haven't even touched it. Yeah. It's not good. So, oh I have more luxe and filter PR. I mean that's really good news for me honestly. We have some books. Lots of books in here. I don't know. Honestly, I might turn this into my boot closet.  But I have so many pairs of boots. I like want my own cowboy boot line one day. So I might as well just make it into this. But I have so much stuff. Alright, Dana just got everything out from the bottom of my pantry. Because it's just overflowing at all times. And we're gonna go through it. I mean that's like a box of stuff people brought for a pregame over there. Just so much PR, extra stuff I don't need. Alright, it's much better here now. Dana just cleaned the floors. This stuff I will really go through. But I mean honestly there's too much food in here at the end of the day. So it's so much better. It's the most organized it's been in like six months. Which is not saying much but. This is the before of the garage. It's pretty crazy. For ourselves 45 minutes. Just time it. It's always my life hack that works. And we're gonna go through everything. Organize it. Label it. Got a label maker and everything. It's a good day. Boot barn. Dom just left like half of our stuff here. Dom I'm putting in a suitcase. Timer's off. And look at how much better this garage looks guys. It is night and day. Fits is having a great time. Still have a few things to take upstairs. We're done. Look we just arrived in the mail. A nice little set active PR gift. Which I'm so excited for. This is so cute. This is the oat milk collection. Which is I'm pretty sure like everyone's favorite color. And I just got my fifth pieces in it. Cute little hair clip. That's adorable.  The little Cyber Monday kits. I mean they're just so cute. Alright I just made some leftover chicken noodle soup. I posted the reel to my Instagram today. So if you guys want to go check it out feel free. I'm going to spend the rest of the afternoon working. So I will talk to you guys later. It is now 6pm and I'm going to Chili's. Okay I know we're probably really shocked here. Here is my groundbreaking outfit for Chili's. A Birkenstock socks. Who gets dinner at 6pm? And they're 20's. Apparently me. You guys saw them. I went viral and took talk about Chili's. And that is the most meat thing that's ever happened to me. So I am off. I just went to Chili's. It was absolutely incredible. That just reminded me I have leftovers in the back seat. I either always leave my leftovers on the table. Or my car which is honestly worse. But I just want to say right now. And I don't mean this in the way that's like oh my god. 2022 is going to be my year. Because you know we all said that about 2020. But I just have a really like good but also just like interesting feeling about 2022. Like I feel like I don't know I have. I do have a really good feeling about it. I have a lot of good things coming up. And I'm feeling really excited. I started like making a little bit of like a vision or action board for 2022. And tomorrow just for myself. And then tomorrow Jess and I are doing that for the O kind. But I don't know what it is guys. I just think it's going to be a really really crazy year. And I'm very excited. Like I'm very very very very excited. So okay so I'm going to go and breathe. I'm currently reading Mel Robbins latest book. I might get another fiction novel. I've got five books left. I want a track for a hundred books in 2020. Happy Wednesday guys. I'm ready for the day. It is noon. Got some work done. Went on a nice walk. I'm about to meet Jessica at Honor Bar. We're going to have a little meeting and planning session for the O kind. This top is Shop Distinctive Soul. Cute little small business on Instagram. I'm wearing this blazer from Princess Polly. Which was like a little bit bigger. Jeans are Levi's. The boots are Lucaceae. So Dallas today everyone. Parking at Highland Park Village is literally the worst thing to happen to me every single day. Still no parking. I'm going to make sure they even have ballet right now. Maybe a different pink. Yeah. I don't like the color. I wish it was a different pink. Guys we're in market. Looking around. They always have the cutest stuff. Yeah. They have really good coffee table books. Candles. This brand has a big F1 girl over here. No. Look at that. I love you so much. Art. I'm like who is that? We have a lot in common. Look. They just got sleeper here. They always have their coolest like latest brands. I've never been in here. Oh really? This is the last line. You noticed that right? Yeah. Oh. That's really cute. That's why I said can I make it here? Yes. Thank you. We are going into Love Shack Fancy. Oh yeah. That just opened recently. It is just. Oh my God. I haven't been at Christmas time. This is really not Jess's vibe but I'm obsessed with it. Oh my God. It's perfect. I want a table setting. We are doing stuff for the Oakland Vision Board. Just got my favorite salad besides sweet green salads. The kale chicken salad at Honor Bar. It is so good. I am at this restaurant. I'm not kidding. Probably at least twice a week. My favorite place ever. I'm taking these aggressive shots. Oh my God. Too hot right now. I'm not sweet right now. Cheese on mine. Am I doing the whole thing? I'm going to sit. My most toxic treat besides loving chili so much is trying to take aggressive shots like a shot of ketchup. It's hot. It's not that hot. It's like the best. It's hot. It's hot. It's not that hot. It's hot. It's hot. You know I didn't. You know I didn't rap. I don't even own. I don't even rap. By the way. Do you want me to just tell you what I got you for Christmas? Sure. I know. It's going to be a shock.  Did you want me to do a monster? Yeah. I did. But I'm not here yet. So. Okay. Shocked. If you guys saw the last vlog. You too would be shocked. I had no idea that this is on the way. Do you like that one though? I love it. Yeah. No I love it. Because there's so many options you know. No I love it. Also the quality is insane. I'm not kidding until you have one.  You literally can't until you have one. Wow. You literally can't until you have one. Just take your hand inside. Like I'm not joking. Oh my god. Thank you. You're welcome. No the quality is incredible. Yeah it's Christmas. I like the cut too. I don't have a crew from them. I only have hoodies. That's why I felt like we should expand our shared closet. Yeah I agree. I'm glad that you thought ahead. I just you know. Do you want to wear this? It's going to be kind of hot but. I know. Actually I feel like I'm going to wear this. Just kind of needs a crew. So she might be putting that on today. I know I'm not actually. Because I am kind of hot now. We're doing a little luxury shopping today potentially. I want a new bag and I want new shoes. And I really never shop for myself. I do shop for myself. I don't buy like really expensive things though. Yeah. I can't say the same for myself but. So. I'm trying to withhold. It's probably what's your thing. Can't say it's tempting me. Like I'm supposed to be saving. I'm supposed to be saving. We're starting a business. We're spending a lot of money. We're supposed to be saving. She's like let me go buy Prada Loafers. I just need them. And also with the stuff we're coming out with. No but I think about wearing them every day. The stuff we're coming out with. Like I'll wear them with that. Yeah. To be fair I do have a black pair of loafers already. Yeah. You don't have them. I don't have a pair of loafers. You guys I bought black loafers at the. Who remembers LF? At the LF sale when I was a sophomore in high school. The most amazing black loafers that are. Do you want a hand sanitizer? Yeah. That were originally like $900. Ridiculous. I bought them for $85 at that Ridiculous LF sale.  Oh my God. And I've had them forever. They're so beautiful. And they are. We just have an LF here. Oh my God.  Oh I love it. Are you looking serious? No no no. It makes me feel like I smell clean. It makes me smell like it makes me think of like a. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. So cute All right guys, we're at North Park now We need to try on shoes. I've been thinking about it for a long time. Don't worry Good. I just wanted to be in camera So festive. I know she loves the camera now. Oh great. I Love this bag. This is why I need black because this is what I want when I need a black bag every day I also like this one though Smaller. Yeah, that's really cute I like that a lot. So let's see. It's beautiful and then there's a strap too. Yeah, pull it out. I Like that it's black and I'm normally like if you on black hardware Oh, really? It depends. I either love it or I don't like it. It's real that I don't like it to be honest But yeah, let's just see. Oh, it's just it's everything. It actually is take a step. Thank you. Let's see It's my phone fit put it in That would be the only reason why I wouldn't get something that small oh it fits It's only the only thing that needs to fit It's it's so nice and you Okay, I love this one. I'm gonna flip this so you can see yourself I think it's a sign from God Wait, how much what's the original price 2000 it's also for 13. I mean I wanted to be Listen, I think it's a sign from God.  That's a really good deal Other side Let me say oh my gosh. It's just everything. I don't know but like the last one That's why it's stunning 23 So literally a thousand dollars less. It's so nice, right? And that's the last one you guys have you said right? I mean, I think you have to hit that Literally is almost 50% off of that background. No, and I wanted a pink I literally said I want to block one because I need an everyday block bag But I need a pink one because I just have wanted a pink bag for so long and pink is my color and that is so cheap This is where I got this back Yeah, I Never do this guys. I promise I normally do consignment in secondhand. I really don't I I Want to see all the options for I mean these are the ones I have but I do need loafers Perfect. Thank you so much. Yeah, Merry Christmas to me. Have a good one Wow guys, it was actually when we checked out that was an impulse buy I was just saying no I was literally just saying my impulse buys are always the most worn and it was 300 dollars cheaper than they told us Like it was under a thousand dollars, which is obviously still a lot of money But for a Balenciaga bag since insane again, I don't normally spend this much money. Okay We're on the hunt, which is so crazy that these are even hard to find right now because I'm like so light to the game with the loafers I Want the ones with a thicker sole And I'm trying on I don't like this like cut of jeans. I'm just trying it on for their size They are so comfortable though like oh my god So comfortable All right, I actually love these jeans I was like baggy jeans to wear with heels. I feel like I should go down a size But like wearing these with heels. I love them. They're just fun. They're not for everyone, but I love them They're also very comfortable Off to Aritzia we go. I got a few accessories from Urban. They have great scarves and beanies, but Here we are. This is really where it all started truly Just a few basics on Aritzia. I needed this like good black tank that's sleepless and cool These great gray sweats Love. All right, we just met Elena at Aritzia. She moved here. She's so nice. Had great skin She moved here last October or in October so recently She made four of her best friends here on the Geneva app and they met at Skellig which is very fitting and then They had a friend's giving they're having white elephant this weekend I mean how cute you guys have to join the Geneva app Then she said her friend was a national and that she's gonna join the national room and then make her friends there I'm telling you guys. This is the new wave join my Geneva room mine specifically. It's the best one. I promise you This is my biggest shopping day. I've done in a long time. Okay. I Do I like the gold detailing. Oh, that's what I need that gold detailing. All right guys. We are back I'm gonna do a little haul. We're actually about to go watch the Mab's play at the Lakers Christie's I think so just is about to pick me up again But I'm gonna give you guys a little bit of a haul So I got some accessories from Urban one of my favorite scarfs this season is from there So I picked up another one. This is actually a lot more orange But it was more brown It looks kind of I don't know is it winter brown? I came home to my house like so messed up Dogs just you know, it's okay. Um, I got a black beanie And then I got a brown beanie Just things that I needed Picked up some basics out of ritzia. I got another pair of the teenage cozy sweats I go between a small and a medium. They are just the softest sweats. You'll literally ever wear And I love them. They last forever. They are the best quality and they're not like crazy pricey Then I got just this black top because I needed like a good Black top again. You can't see that I changed clearly and then this top I would have gotten it in more colors, but they didn't have any more of my size Just has these cool little like shoulder pads. I thought this would be cute Just something easy to throw on obviously for Christmas. Just got me a local optimist Mad happy crew, which I understand the hype now after wearing one not wearing one just feeling one It is unreal. I will say I got good American jeans Which I will say like when I was looking at them Everyone's told me like you have to try them on and then you'll understand the hype And I grabbed a few I tried them on and it was a magical experience like I've never Worn a comfier pair of jeans. I got these in a size 6, which honestly, I could have potentially gone down We'll see these just like don't even look that great until you put them on and they're just like the perfect Like they hit you perfectly They're like the bad heat oversized jeans So they still fit like these with heels and a sweater. Oh my god Everything I could ever want and then I got a pair guys. You guys are gonna banish me from being Gen Z Hear me out. I have so many boots and so many over-the-knee boots. I needed skinny jeans I'm gonna be honest. I haven't bought a pair of skinny jeans and probably like six seven years Has it really been that long? Yeah, I feel like when I moved to LA was right around when I stopped wearing skinny jeans, right?  These are the good legs crop I Just love I just needed them to wear my boots or else, you know, what was the girl gonna do? Sorry guys? Also every time I wear my bread-running house like totoe I get so many compliments and then I get so awkward because I like don't want to explain that as my merch because it's like weird To say that when you meet someone, you know what I mean? So I just cut my mouth shut. Then for the real Banger of this haul. I know that this is still so expensive Obviously, I work very hard for my money and I don't go out and buy especially full-priced sander bags like all the time I originally was looking for a good black everyday bag because all I have is that other boots younger that I got discounted and I was looking for a good black one and I did and it's so crazy because before I was saying like It's always my impulse like bright bags that I buy that I get the most compliments out of and get the most We're out of and I was like I really want a Balenciaga bag in pink because I love their pink bags And then we saw this and not only do we see this but it was literally at first They were like it was originally sugar and it was until for thirteen hundred and then I was like done amazing Go to check out nine ninety two eleven hundred with tax which obviously is still so expensive But I understand that but for a Balenciaga bag or a designer bag in general like that is actually insane But it's like the most perfect cute Bag like look at this So I went to the store to get a black bag and this is what I got, but I'm not kidding guys like Hello, have you ever seen anything so perfect like I? Just love it so much. So here we go. Merry Christmas to me. It's so cute. I love it It also like fits so much and honestly shockingly like really bright bags Ended up being a neutral to me like somehow this ends up matching everything and I can't really explain it to you Especially in the spring and summer. I will get so much wear out of this bag I mean, it's like literally perfect. Don will be so proud of me So seven I need to shower through my hair up. I am hired. I'm actually reading Mel Robbins latest book. My dad was telling me it to read it My dad is like where I get all of my like I'm so into personal development so I got so into it um So I started reading that and it's actually very good I don't know why I said actually as if it's like surprising, but so I want to finish that tonight potentially I have so many books right now that I want to read if you guys have any book racks by the way I make ticktocks in reels of them all the time So I think I'm gonna wear this blue set active set in the morning And then I have like a matching long sleeve and my Birkenstocks like that's cute for Pilates, so I can't do my Pilates class this morning actually because I was So tired and I just went on a long walk also.  It's crazy. I like the first to you I Just like oh my god even sitting down trying on shoes and stuff today was too much I also did buy the Prada loafers today I actually did order the Prada loafers that'll be coming in soon Something I really would wanting to do is to just like style a bunch of outfits and then put them on that rack So they're ready. The issue lately has been the weather has been changing like this I swear is the warmest December we've ever had it was like 70 degrees today, and I'm used to being like so cold and bundled up I think it's gonna be like almost 70 on Christmas, which is gross this weekend. It's colder. It's like 50s It's in the 50s, but like still yeah, okay, so it's 50 49 next week It's colder, and then it gets back to like high 70 High The lowest 55 highest 71 on Christmas. I am not into that I also I will say I'm normally like dreading the holiday season being over and the last thing I want to happen But I'm just so excited for next year, but I'm not dreading it Which is really refreshing and also I'm going on a New Year's Eve trip So I feel like Christmas is lasting like another week even more than it normally would because we'll be in New York And it's like so festive there. Good morning. I'm about to go to Pilates I just threw on a seductive set for whatever reason I asked like all these cuts of sports bras I should have asked for a different one. I love the matching long sleeve. It's so cozy.  I'm like bubblegum right now So beautiful also by the way guys this bag it is a perfect size It fits my camera. It fits everything. I can even throw disposable my phone. I mean I am in love with this bag Oh my god. Today is a lot of computer work. I have therapy at one. I have it. Oh, that's like an hour a media for I want to make chili and that's in a slow cooker today. So I need to start on that now. I need to make coffee Guys I started on my chili. I've got some ground beef ground pork Onions garlic peppers. I'm gonna brown all these and then I'm just going to slow cook with the beans and then Jalata sauce and the tomatoes for the rest of the day The longer you let this sit the better it is So so many things this week cooking just brings me so much inner peace like I just feel so calm Have the TV on I always listen to a podcast. It's really beautiful outside the leaves have changed colors I mean, I just love it. All right So now I'm gonna add the beans the tomatoes the enchilada sauce and just go on from there and then I let It sit for literally eight hours.  I Want to create a currency for brands that my audience not only likes me for my personality but they like me for Branding and marketing content and if I have that currency to go to brands and say look I have X amount of followers, but not only do I have that much But like they like and are interested in lifting up the curtain, which I don't think a lot of people are doing I think that'd be extremely smart and kind of like a new avenue that not a lot of people are doing


That concludes topical questions. We will move on to the next item of business, which is a debate on motion 8205 in the name of Ivan McKee on trade Australia and New Zealand Bill, UK legislation. I would be grateful if members who wish to speak in the debate were to press their request to speak buttons now. I call on Ivan McKee to speak to and move the motion up to seven minutes, minister. Fyemdwch i'n gwneud o'r dewiscau cyda'n gweld i'r ffasgfaith i gyflosio gyda'r cyfnodd i'r ddiddordeb yn gwybod, ond oedd wrth gwrs y Ddiwg Cyffredinol iawn i'r ddifu yn ymddorach a'r debylwch a'r ddifu'r ddiwg cyffredinol iawn i'r ddifu'r dros y parwm yn y ddifu'r ddifu'r ddifu'r ddifu'r ddifu'r ddifu'r ddifu'r ddifu'r ddifu'r ddifu'r ddifu'r ddifu'r Diddorffydd, Australia a New Zealand bylwyr could provide UK Government ministers with a delegated party legislaturevaill direct to the devolved matters in Scotland by passing Scottish ministers and the Scottish Parliament entirely. The one thing that we can be grateful for is that the bill, despite it's grandson title, has a relatively narrow focus. Our views on the trade deals that the UK Government has agreed with Australia and with New Zealand are well-known, and the Scottish Government has no direct role in negotiating those deals are very concerned by the impact of both agreements, particularly about agrifoods. That's not today's focus. This bill is solely about the implementation of the Government procurement chapters of those agreements. As a result of those amendments, I am needed to procurement legislation to extend duties of equal treatment to bidders from Australia and New Zealand and to make some minor amendments to procedural rules. Y pryddysgu wedi gweithio'r ymerddur. The United Kingdom Government has opted in this Bill to confer a power to make these amendments by secondary legislation. The power is drafted too broadly, and a greater concern would be exisable concurrently by both UK and Scottish ministers, meaning that UK ministers would be able to exercise it in devolved areas without securing the consent of Scottish ministers. The bill also allows for the implementation of future amendments to the Australia and newies Randy Madden— It is a curious provision that includes that when the agreements have only just been reached and the perch is expected to be repealed by the UK Government's procurement bill in the coming months. Scotland's legislative consent memorandum did not recommend consent to that and the economy, fair work committees, the subsequent report that I thank for its efforts included that there should be a means for the Scottish Parliament to scrutinise regulations that are laid by the UK Government that fall within devolved competence. I and officials have engaged with counterparts in the UK Government over many months in an effort to address those concerns. I met with the UK Minister for International Trade in early December and have written to him twice since then. I met with the relevant UK Government minister earlier today. We have suggested three different ways in which the bill could be appropriately amended. The first option would be to make the provision necessary to implement those agreements on the face of the bill, allowing the Scottish Parliament to consider precisely what it might be consenting to. The second option would be to amend the power so that it is conferred solely on Scottish ministers in relation to devolved matters. The third option would be to introduce a statutory requirement for UK ministers to secure the consent of Scottish ministers before exercising the power in relation to devolved matters. Those are entirely reasonable and practical suggestions that the UK Government has unfortunately rejected out of hand. The UK Government's view, one that I do not accept, is that it must maintain a power by secondary legislation to implement international obligation in order to ensure that it is complied with. However, such a view implies that of the two Governments, it is the Scottish Government, which is the one that has difficulty with the rule of international law. I do not think that that is a conclusion that many observers would be drawing right now. Indeed, the Scottish Government has implemented international obligations in relation to procurement successfully, separately from and sometimes differently to the rest of the UK for almost 20 years now. At no point has there ever been any question mark raised over our compliance with international obligations. Daniel Johnson, I very much agree with the frustrations that the minister has set out. I was wondering if he could set out what attempts he has made to have dialogue with UK Government and UK ministers discuss these issues and find a way through. Minister, as I have already indicated in my remarks so far, I have written twice to UK Government ministers and I have met relevant UK Government ministers in the Commons previously. Just today, I met Lord Johnson, the relevant UK Government minister, in the lodge to discuss those issues. In addition to that, officials have had extensive interaction on all those issues over a period of some time now. The UK Government did not approach us with what it described as a compromise proposal or something that we have discussed with it through that dialogue. If we were willing to recommend consent to the bill, it would be willing to amend the bill so that the power would only become exerciseable by UK ministers in relation to the involved matters. If either, the Scottish ministers asked the UK Government to legislate on their behalf, which clearly would be acceptable to us, or if following a request from the UK ministers, the Scottish ministers had failed to legislate within 15 days. So, while we may have been able to secure an improvement on the idea that Scottish ministers would only have had 15 days alluricrous proposal, of course, from the arbitrary day of any such request in which to consider, draft and make any legislation, the UK Government was clear that it would not budge on the issue of consent. Of course, that is a significant matter of principle, and so I was unable to agree to their proposal. It is not for the lack of effort in our part that we have ended up in that situation, but so long as the trade Australia-New Zealand Bill contains a provision to allow UK ministers to be able to legislate in a devolved area without for seeking the consent of Scottish ministers, I cannot recommend that Parliament gives its consent. I believe that it is also worth noting that the well-saith has withheld its consent in respect of the bill as it falls within the legislative competence of the seth. I therefore move the motion. Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. Indeed, I moved the amendment in my name. Before I say anything further, I think that what is important to set out are issues with the Australian-New Zealand trade deal notwithstanding. Trade is undoubtedly a good thing, and I think that regardless of the circumstances that we find ourselves, we should be encouraging trade and looking for opportunities to do so, especially with places in the world such as Australia-New Zealand, where we have a lot of shared interest and a common history. However, we need to remember that the Australian-New Zealand deal was a deeply flawed trade deal. One that, in the absence of an oven-ready deal, was something rather snatched and grabbed at by UK Government desperately seeking to see upsides to the flawed Brexit that it sought to deliver. We have much sympathy with the arguments that the Scottish Government sets out. It is important that there is a role for devolved administrations and indeed devolved parliaments in approving and indeed devising trade deals. Those are arguments made by Nick Thomas Simmons and other of my colleagues in the House of Commons, and we sought to make a number of amendments to that as it went through that. Indeed, I would note that in many other jurisdictions devolved administrations and legislatures do have formal roles in the approval of trade deals such as in Belgium. I think that it is of particular concern the ability of the UK Government to make amendments without consultation if there is a refresh of this free trade agreement, essentially giving UK ministers carte blanche. That is notwithstanding. I think that there is a concern with the motion that was brought forward by the Government, because while we agree that there should be consultation with people in Scotland, I do not think that it is any more acceptable for Scottish ministers to make decisions behind closed doors that can have very significant bearing on farmers and fruit producers than it is for UK ministers, that if that is a matter of concern for the people of Scotland, then it is Parliament that ultimately should be consulted on those decisions. It is not so difficult for this place to pass instruments or legislative consent motions. It is something that we can do relatively easily and briefly, but it gives us that level of oversight. Ultimately, I would say this. People may not want to know about the detail of something that is probably relatively obscure in terms of everyday life, but it is ultimately important. I think that people in Scotland are growing weary and tired of two Governments that are constantly seeking to make constitutional ranker and disagreement the fundamental basis of their politics, rather than getting on in terms of making progress. I think that what we want to see is two Governments working together in the collective good, because regardless of your views of the constitutional arrangements and the way that they should be, ultimately, whoever is in administration in Edinburgh and whoever is in administration in London needs to work together in the collective interests of the people who live in these islands. That, quite frankly, is not what is happening right now. I draw members' attention to my register of interests as a partner in the farming business in Orkney and as a member of NFU Scotland. I am also a member of the Economy and Fair Work Committee, which considers the LCM. Can I take this opportunity to thank our committee's clerks for all their efforts in drafting our report? This debate is largely one of processes that has been discussed, but I would like to start with the bills themselves. The two free trade agreements are the first from scratch deals that the UK has negotiated since we left the EU. They are historic and reflect the deep bonds, social, familial and economic, between our three countries. They will strengthen our trade with Australia and with New Zealand, and they will deepen our ability to access their markets. They could pave the way for the UK joining the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership. The Australia deal will see tariffs removed on all UK exports and a real boost for Scottish products, such as the iconic whisky sector and for our fashion sector, the animal welfare charter, with a non-aggressive clause that stops any rollback on welfare standards. The deal will make it easier for people to operate in each other's economies. It will remove visas allowing young people from Scotland to travel and to work in Australia for up to three years at a time. The New Zealand deal will also see tariffs dropped on all products as well as red tape slashed for the nearly 6,000 UK SMEs that export goods to the country, businesses that employ nearly a quarter of a million people across the UK. Scottish exporters will now have an advantage over international rivals in a market expected to grow by 30 per cent by the end of this decade. The UK Government estimates that the FTA with Australia could increase trade between the two countries by 53 per cent, with an increase in GVA of almost £120 million. The UK New Zealand deal could increase trade by 59 per cent. Businesses across the UK and across Scotland will benefit. The bill itself implements the procurement chapters of the two deals into UK domestic law, ensuring that the UK is not in breach of its obligations as the agreements come into force. While the UK Government's intention is that, in the future, a power in the procurement bill will allow procurement provisions in international agreements to be implemented, legislation is needed now in relation to those two agreements because they must be implemented before the procurement bill is likely to come into force. As the economy committee's report on the LCM states, there was agreement from members on a number of issues around scrutiny of the bill and an acceptance of the need for both Governments to engage constructively. However, my colleague Graham Simpson and I could not agree with the committee's recommendation that powers either conferred solely on Scottish ministers or that UK ministers should be required to obtain consent from Scottish ministers. The UK Government has made commitments to the devolved administrations to not normally legislate within devolved areas and whether it has to not do so without consultation. However, it is important that, with international relations and reserve matter, the UK Government is able to legislate to meet international obligations. If consent was put into the statute, as I know some here would want, it could discourage more consensual intergovernmental working and risk disagreements being decided in more lengthy and expensive court action. There is also the risk that consent may be withheld for political reasons, that the Scottish Government might seek to create arguments for purely political gain. I know that suggestion may come as a shock to many in this chamber. However, during our membership of the European Union, the Scottish Government was content for many of the powers that they now dispute to be held in Brussels. Presumably, given their position on EU membership, they would be happy to have them invested in Brussels again. Is it a genuine concern that the Scottish Government has over those powers? Or is it less about the concerns about the bill and more about stoking constitutional grievance? Is it that there is a sunset on this First Minister's time in office? The last act of this administration will be to leave us with one hurrah, last hurrah of divisive grievance politics. Or is it just that they don't like trade deals because the SNP has never supported a trade deal negotiated by either the UK or the EU? They didn't support the deal with Canada, they didn't support the deal with Japan, they didn't support the deal with Ukraine, they didn't support the deals with South Africa or with Singapore or with Korea, they even voted against the deal between the UK and the EU. They are content to see us leave the EU with a no-deal Brexit. Those are important deals that the UK Government has negotiated with the Governments of Australia and of New Zealand. As I have outlined, they will benefit people and businesses across the UK and across Scotland. They include important protections for key sectors and in areas such as animal welfare. On those benches, we support those agreements, and we will do so by opposing the SNP's grandstanding attempts to block them today.  The only real, tangible, so-called benefit that we have seen from Brexit in six and a half years, so I think that he deserves an absolute credit for his contribution this afternoon, because not even George Eustace has recognised the benefit of the trade agreement with Australia and New Zealand. In fact, he criticised it even though he was the minister that was in part negotiating the deal. I would have hoped that Jamie Halcro Johnston could have perhaps acknowledged that that is a pathetic set of trade deals. Of course, we support free trade. Of course, it is a benefit to Scottish producers, UK producers, the opportunity for export across the world, but to hold that up is a great success. I do not think that that is reality, and I think that Jamie Halcro Johnston truly knows that himself. We will support the motion this afternoon. Of course, there should be greater scrutiny from this Parliament. There should be an involvement of this Parliament. There should be a greater partnership between the Scottish and the UK Governments on trade deals. It is disappointing that we are here once again with the same old song. We support Labour's amendment. We think that it is appropriate for the Parliament to have the power, not just for the ministers to have the power. In fact, that is something that the Scottish Government has criticised the UK ministers for holding on to powers when they should be scrutinised by the Parliament. However, it is utterly depressing that, once again, we have two Governments that seem to be incapable of agreeing between themselves on an important area, perhaps of process, but nevertheless important for people's livelihoods. We should be able to, for the witter man, to work together to work up an arrangement for the scrutiny by this Parliament and by this Government of any international trade deals. As Daniel Johnson has highlighted, other countries manage to do that, so why can't we do that as well? It is perhaps a fact that, over the past 15 years, this Government has taken every single often cheap opportunity to attack whoever is in power Westminster. Perhaps that has led to this day that the relationship has broken so badly that both sides are incapable of agreeing, which is why we need reform of the United Kingdom and change of Governments both north and south of the border. We need to have free trade, we need to have co-operation between the two Governments. It is for the sake of the businesses that produce excellent quality products. They deserve to be able to export those across the world, but they deserve to have politicians in this Parliament scrutinising those deals, to apply our expertise to those trade deals, to make sure that they are fit for purpose. Once again, however, we have two Governments that have let us down and have been incapable of reaching agreement. I hope that one day that we will manage to get some co-operation. I suspect that it may be some time. I agree with Daniel Johnson. Of course, trade is a good thing. If you read our export growth plan, a trading nation will be very well aware that that is stated right up front and centre. It will be very well aware of the trade missions that I undertake on behalf of Scottish businesses on a relentless basis. I am often another one. Next week, with my chamber of commerce to Poland, he will be aware of his paying attention that I am part of those trade missions that I engage with the UK Government in now the no longer DIT, the DEBAT and the UK ambassadors and UK trade commissioners. We work together closely where it makes sense to support Scottish business. We will also be aware that he talks about the benefit of trade, that the biggest harm to trade has been done, of course, by Brexit. A policy that his Government still supports and, for some bizarre reason, has been unable to be able to support his party and has been unable to bring itself to recognise the faults of Brexit as it seeks to become the next UK Government. Of course, a formal process exists in other sub-national government, which is something that we have proposed to the UK Government through the right form. The outset of Brexit in 2016, with policies that we have put forward and have relentlessly attempted to engage with them, is a more structured mechanism for that to happen, something that they have refused to engage on. On the point of accountability, the Scottish ministers are, of course, accountable to the Scottish Parliament. The process, as he knows, is that the Scottish Government would take forward those proposals, but would bring them to a Parliament or through a committee, as appropriate. Of course, Parliament would have its ability to be able to scrutinise what was happening with those decisions. The point, of course, is that, despite what Willie Rennie says, it is not through our lack of trying that those trade deals are not coming here to be scrutinised by the Parliament, because the UK Government has decided to do so. Despite the fact that Jamie Halcro Johnston purred through and did not take any interventions, I shall, in the interests of open debate, take your intervention. If he and his Government are so positive towards trade, why have you voted against every single trade deal that has been put in front of me? The member should be well aware that, if he is paying attention, the Australian and New Zealand deals are very bad for Scottish agribusiness. Absolutely. If you look at the Brexit deal, the situation in Brexit, of course, is that we should be back with part of the European Union and having free trade as a consequence of that, something that we are absolutely very much in favour of. We will take each trade deal on its merits. Trade deals, as the member does not and should know, is a balance of offensive and defensive interests. We think that Scottish businesses having more harm done to it by the UK Government rushing headlong into random trade deals, then we will, of course, vote in Scottish interests as a consequence of that. Will the member make the point that, as Daniel Johnson should engage with the UK Government? I think that I made it very clear that we have engaged with the UK Government. In fact, there is a very constructive conversation and other regards about working together to secure investment with Daniel Johnson's namesake Lord Johnson this afternoon on this very issue. However, that does not take away from the fact that the UK Government has dug its heels in on this point and is denying that the devolution settlement has not been able to be played out through the powers that the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish ministers have as a consequence of that. I think that Willie Rennie needed any more example of the Conservative party's unwillingness to engage on this process, the fact that Jamie Halcro Johnston would not take a single intervention from anybody in the chamber and kind of talks to that. Just to reflect on the point that Jamie Halcro Johnston made, it is not about Brussels. When we were in the European Union, those powers were not held in Brussels in the way that they are held at Westminster at the moment. EU procurement directives were implemented by Scottish ministers and not by the European Union. That is the difference. When we were part of the European Union, the powers were here and now we are not in the European Union. The UK Government has taken those powers back upon itself and is encroaching on the devolved areas, including procurement. In conclusion, we are not happy with the situation, but, of course, I think that, certainly everyone, I would hope on ourselves and everyone on this side of the chamber, would agree that devolution has to be protected and that it is important that we do so, where there is an attack from the UK Government. That is one of those, unfortunately, increasing number of examples where that indeed is the case. I move the motion. Thank you. That concludes the debate on trade. Australia and New Zealand Bill, UK legislation, and it is now time to move on to the next item of business.


Good morning and welcome to the third meeting in 2017 of the Standards Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. Can I remind everyone present to switch off mobile phones and other devices to silent? Agenda item 1 in today's committee is to take evidence on three proposed cross-party groups. The first group that we have to consider today is proposed CPG on commercial sexual exploitation, and I would like to welcome Ash Denham to the meeting. Ash is to be a co-convener of the group and I would like to invite you to make an opening statement. Thank you, convener. Good morning. It was expected that it would be Voda Grant with you here this morning, but unfortunately she has had a family member taken ill, so I agreed to step in in her place. I have an opening statement, it's okay if I go ahead and read that. The intention of the proposed group is to provide a forum for those who are concerned about commercial sexual exploitation, CSE, to meet, to discuss the issue and to work together to raise awareness of the issue. It's recognised as violence against women under equally safe, but while progress has been made in raising awareness of domestic abuse and sexual assault, we've not had the same focus on CSE. We need to tackle violence against women in order to achieve a truly equal society. I realise there are a large number of cross-party groups already, but it's important to be able to explore the issue further. Our application, which I assume that you have a copy of, gives a list of a number of organisations that are interested and individual members who wish to join. It gives a list of MSPs who have supported us and I also have another few MSPs to add to that list. Does your list contain Joanne Lamont's name? It does. Okay, so you've got that one. So then it would be Kate Forbes, SNP MSP and Joan McAlpine SNP MSP. Thank you very much. Can I invite any questions from the group? Yeah, Mr Stewart. Thank you, convener. Thank you, Ash. You've already identified that there may be some overlap with others and I think that that's quite important that you have because you will learn from what they've done and the experiences they've had. Can I also ask what connection you will have with Police Scotland in the process and are they going to be part of your investigation or part of the team that's going to come on and give you information about what they're doing across the whole of Scotland to try and manage the process and also tackle what's happening on the UK by-basis as well? I've only had contact with the police informally, so we haven't actually thought at this point about whether we would involve them, but certainly I think that's a good suggestion. Okay. Other groups that we are aware of, obviously that would maybe cover similar ground would be the Men's Violence Against Women group and also the Human Trafficking group. So I'm co-convener of human trafficking as well and I've also spoken to men's violence against women. I believe, I wasn't at that meeting, but I believe at the last meeting of that group, it was agreed that both of these groups would work together but not all the stakeholders in that group agree with the aims of this group but they wish as well. Okay. Thank you, convener. Are there any other questions? That's thanks. Good morning. Looking at the terms of reference that you've proposed, it seems fairly clear that the group is intended to be explicitly a group supporting a particular model of legislation of criminalising demand. I'm just wondering how that's going to work if members who don't support that choose to become involved. Obviously, all MSPs have the right to join any cross-party group and this particular proposal is one that's been considered in a previous session and legislation not supported by Parliament. Is this group intended to be open to people who have an interest in the subject and wish to discuss it from a range of different perspectives or only a space for discussion from one particular viewpoint? The rules are that CPGs need to be open to—I'm not entirely sure what the rules are on CPGs. In that case, if that's the rules, that would have to go forward. I would assume that people who supported the aims would be more interested in joining it but we couldn't exclude people who had held opposite views. Any further questions? I thank the member for her attendance this morning. The decision will be taken at agenda item 2 in our proceedings today and you'll be informed as quickly as possible of the results. Thank you very much. I'm going to suspend shortly to allow witnesses to change over. Thank you. The second group for the committee's consideration is the proposed CPG on end-of-life choices. I would like to welcome George Adam, MSP, to the meeting. George is the proposed convener of the group and I would like to invite Mr Adam to make an opening statement. Thank you, convener. The whole idea for the end-of-life choices CPG is effectively to give a forum. We've obviously had two bills appear before the Parliament, which weren't supported when both were came from Margo MacDonald and then Patrick took on after Margo passed away. I think that we had open debates during that but we've never got by stage one and part of the I believe that CPG would be let's have these robust discussions about this very passionate subject and let's have it in a cross-party group so that some of the politicians, because the public, time and time again we're told the public actually support this idea. So I think in order to get the politicians in line with the public ideal I think we have to have this cross-party group in order to have the debate and that would include people being involved that aren't for the actual idea as well because I think we'd be fooling ourselves having there talking to the converted every single quarter. So the whole idea is so that if there is another case when we have a bill coming forward then we have the opportunity to get beyond stage one and not hide behind various issues like legal. I think one of the problems was in stage one the last time was people kept saying there was legal problems and we wouldn't pass any bills past stage one in this place if we actually can use that as a reference all the time. So I think we have to look at it. This is an opportunity for everybody to have open frank discussion with regards to the subject. For me personally it's a very personal subject to me because my wife says it's MS and obviously it's something that she has to look at possibly if she goes from secondary progressive to primary progressive MS. So yes I do have a very personal need for it but that's part of the reason why I'm trying to take this thing out the tail almost in the debate and have it in a cross-party group so we can have these discussions and then hopefully who knows what could happen in the future. Okay thank you very much. Can you invite any questions? Miss Hawke? Thank you convener and thank you George for coming along and speaking to us today about the CPG. I'm just looking at your membership last year and you have one individual named and two organisations and I was wondering what proposals you have for broadening the membership of the proposed group. As I stated earlier the whole idea is to make sure that we do have other organisations involved. I would say probably we're looking towards getting some of more religious groups involved as well because that was one of the groups. Not all but some of the religious groups were some of the ones that were very passionate against the idea and as I've said earlier on clear it would be just stupid of me to sit there every quarter and talk to the converted. This is about getting an idea, taking this idea, running with it, taking a lot of the scare stories out of it and actually saying let's have an open frank discussion about that so yes we would be looking towards actually getting anyone else involved. We've already had some individuals who were vehemently against the idea of turning up at meetings and yes that means it's difficult for me as a chair to have the meeting but you know you can't actually change people's way of thinking without getting involved in a bit of passion. Absolutely. Can I ask another question convener? There obviously have been some countries that have legalised assisted dying and I was wondering what plans you had for reaching out to organisations perhaps in those countries or other jurisdictions to find out how they've managed. Obviously these very difficult arguments perhaps are some time ago. I've already been in touch with people from Catalonia who have been going down this route as well. We've had a meeting with individuals from there. We're also talking of going there's a conference abroad where I think it's in Italy is it Stacey? Just Stacey will tell me and keep you right on this one where we're going to actually discuss that as well so you know we are looking at other places where this has obviously worked out and that's on-going and we've actually had a few speakers already from people who have attended meetings who have been from abroad. Mr Stewart. Thank you convener. Thank you George. I very much welcome the dialogue that you're trying to embrace here because I do believe that that is the right way to tackle it is to embrace both sides of the debate and see how things can progress but when it comes to the legal and the medical matters it sometimes there's a fear in the community and we understand that the community wants it. There's a sea of opinion out there that people believe this is the right way to go but how are you going to manage that because they say that the legal and the medical side seem to be the blocks that seem to have stopped us so far from progressing and there's a fear about that across potentially the political situations in here and it's how you bridge that gap. Ironically the fear is with the politicians it's actually not so much with the members of the public they more or less attitude tends to be just get on with it you know do the right thing and get on with it but we have a situation where our last meeting that we had where the discussion along the lines we had someone who was coming from the legal aspect because I know that is we have to get that at stage one if we were putting another bill forward you would have to make sure that you had it robust enough to be able to deal with that and that's one of the major hurdles that we have to do but as I've already said you know if we use that as a rule of thumb for just about every other bill that we're passing normally stage two that you start ironing out all these issues and stage three as well you know we have that system for a reason and I think it's actually if we did that with every kind of legislation there wouldn't be much passed here so I think this is one where we need to take this thing out we need to have that discussion but we need to that's why we've stuck we've been talking to we've made sure we've had representations and we will continue from people from a legal aspect who are have no opinion they're just coming from the legal aspect and I think that's an important one for us don't get me wrong the members that are a part of the cpg might kind of feel that that's not what they want to hear but I think we have to take on everyone else's views as well but the important thing is it's to fear with the politicians that's the issue. Thank you. I commend you I think on the intent I think using cpgs to do the sort of the the debate and discussion and actually seeking to build consensus I think makes an awful lot of sense I think that we there are an awful lot of cpgs and I think the usefulness of that approach I think is I think well made however I mean I think it's pretty clear that the cpg is is being founded from a particular standpoint and I would just you say that you're keen to take evidence from both legal and clinical people I mean what steps will you take to actually bring in members from those perspectives and likewise I would just like to understand what your approach is in terms of exploring issues around palliative care and quality at end of life because I think that's another very critical issue in terms of I think that the wider issues around this topic. You bring up a very very important point I think part of the ideal that we're talking about was to go down the idea of palliative care and choices it's end of life choices you know it's that choice may not be everyone is going to have an assisted death in any shape or form it could be to ensure the palliative care I'm going to speak an event that's about palliative care and end of life choices later on and it will probably be the end of this quarter so it's about having everyone involved in the debate and I also I would see us probably doing a bit of work with the cpg on palliative care as well we've already had some members of that cpg I attend one of our preliminary meetings as well so I could see there be a lot of crossover there for us but it's back down to what I've said right from the start it's about building the consensus I'm aware I used to be a member of this committee I'm aware that there's a lot of cpgs but I think when I tend to do a cpg it's got to be focused it's got to actually want an outcome and at the end of the year we've not just sat around the table and said oh aren't we all very nice and doing a wonderful job there's actually something we've done and I think this is one of the ones yes I've got emotional baggage with this one because it means a lot to me as well but I think it's very important that that's the reason why I've reduced so passionate about it on both sides and I think we've got to get everyone around the table and actually discuss that openly frankly and then we get to the stage where the politicians aren't quite as scared because they say well we've had that debate before we get to stage one you know so for me it's a case of looking at other parts of the world and seeing what they have done and it's about equality and respect to people's wishes. Are there any further questions? Mr Adam thank you very much for your attendance at committee this morning we will deliberate on the proposal at agenda item 2 and you'll be informed of our decision as quickly as possible thank you very much thank you very much convener. I'll suspend Ben briefly to allow witnesses to change over. The final group for the committee's consideration this morning is the proposed cpg on heart disease and stroke and I would welcome Marie Todd MSP to the meeting. Marie will be the proposed convener of the group and I'd like to invite Miss Todd to make an opening statement. Thank you convener. This is a cross-party group which was in existence in the last parliament and I was first asked to conven it during the summer but I suggested that we hang back at pause and have a look at the other cross-party groups that came forward to see if the issues that we wanted to cover were being covered already and what we found when we did meet in the autumn was that there was actually sufficient interest in starting a cross-party group and also sufficient room for a cross-party group specifically on heart disease so despite a huge decline in mortality there's been massive advances in the treatment of acute cardiac disease there's still a real burden of morbidity associated with it so there's a number of people who have had strokes who are surviving them now and much of our focus I think going forward would be on looking at the changes that are happening in healthcare from acute to health and social care integration and looking at issues of inequity of access around the whole of Scotland to things like cardiac rehabilitation. There was also specific cardiac conditions that we felt warranted looking at so there was a lot of interest in looking at atrial ffibrillation and looking at screening for that particular condition so I think there are a massive progress has been made I think there's still room for more improvement and that warrants getting people together in a room to discuss what we can do about it. Thank you very much. Can I invite any questions from members? None whatsoever. I thank you very much for coming along to committee this morning, very comprehensive outline of where you want to go with this APG. We will make our deliberations at agenda item 2 and you'll be informed of our decision as quickly as possible. Thank you for your attendance this morning. Now move to agenda item 2, which is consideration of the proposed CPGs this morning and can I first turn to the CPG on commercial sexual exploitation and invite any comments? Yeah I mean there's clearly a number of groups which have existed for a long time in the Parliament which have rather than the general exploration of a topic have a particular political stance nuclear disarmament, civil nuclear power issues like that and I think there's perhaps just a need to remind members who are setting up a group with that kind of purpose of the fact that all members regardless of their political viewpoint on the issues are entitled to join any CPG that they want. Clearly that wasn't the expectation from the member who is proposing this CPG. I don't think there's any barrier to having groups that have that kind of particularly not impartial viewpoint. I don't think there's any barrier to setting them up but I think it should be understood that they can't restrict their membership to members who subscribe to that viewpoint. Mr Scott? I think Patrick's touched the point and maybe you would advise me, convener, but are we seeing a slight change in the intention of cross-party groups that they now becoming campaigning groups for legislation? Trojan horse is an unfair description but campaigning for a legislative end point is that something we're seeing more of? Is it something we would welcome? I'll merely pose the question, I'm not plotting a judgment or an implied judgment. I want to ask Clarks to come in on this as well but if you look at some of the legislation that's come, you know, smoking ban, started CPG on smoking, the Trafficking Bill as well came largely through a lot of the work so I don't think it's an unusual situation but I'll just get asked to Clarks if they've got any indication of this as a trend in CPGs? It's not possible for me to say that, I don't think that we haven't done any of that sort of analysis. BSL is another round. I'm just perhaps more of an impression but it might be just interesting just to go back a little and have a look and see if but it's only of interest, I'm not in any way critical of the thought that this group be established, it just would be interesting to notice if that was a trend. I think to my mind I think it's probably an indication of the success of the CPGs that they are, you know, and I think BSL is another one which has been usually important. I'm going to bring Mr Stewart in the next round. I mean, I'm following on from Mr Scott's comments. I think many of these groups can mean a see that as an opportunity of having that dialogue, of being able to promote a viewer on opinion and I think it's important that they have that platform and they take on both sides of the debate if there is options for that but if they believe that that is what the group want to progress then I think that that should be encouraged at some stage for them to have that opportunity but at the same time we need to be watchful of it so that it doesn't become just a vehicle and an opportunity to try and affect something that it does have a much wider base so I'm sympathetic to what is being suggested but at the same time I think we need to watch and out of the many we have and there are many as you know there are some that fall into that category but others that do not but I think it's something that we would have to monitor as a group and a committee just to make sure that it isn't going down that trend as we progress to the session. Okay, point well made and noted, Mr Johnson. I just want to echo and expand upon Patrick's points. I mean, I think that if CPGs are going to be meaningful and useful they always come with some sort of perspective. I mean even the ones which I think are uncontroversial such as the ones concerning health I'm sure you could find people that find some ways to sort of disagree or object to them however I think the fact that reminding CPGs and people finding CPGs that their membership should be open I think is important. I think the other element to that is as they're constructing their agenda and work programme. Again, those meetings will always have that point of view embedded within them but there is a way to do that in such a way that meetings are open and welcoming to broad range of points of view even if those are maybe in disagreement with the thrust. I think maybe thinking about reminding CPGs of that and maybe as we look at our work in terms of regulation and guiding CPGs we might want to bear that in mind. Well, we have asked for particular guidance to be given on certain CPGs going through. Would the committee like the clerks to come up with a form of wording that reflects the guidance on CPGs to be included in the letter of approval from the committee? I can tend to let the clerks come up with that and I'll ask if you could delegate it to me to approve them for them going out. Thank you very much. A clarification from the clerks, actually. When someone is proposing registering a CPG, is the guidance sent to them or is the guidance available to them in terms of how inclusive they have to be and so on? Yeah, there are rules in the code of conduct and guidance on the web page. So that is a bit because I suppose in this particular circumstances the co-convener who had come along this morning explained that she had come along in place of the person who was going to be here. So it may well just have been that she wasn't as familiar. I know she had less than 24 hours' notice that she was coming along to the group. So I wouldn't want the committee to take it that this particular CPG had planned on being exclusive in its membership. I was intending that wording would be included in all the proofs of all CPGs going forward. No, I'd take the point absolutely, but the member's short notice in proposing it. I think the reason I raised it was that in contrast with the CPG we would consider next on end of life choices, the remit as constructed is very specifically saying we're here to promote one particular point of view. It is a point of view that relates to quite polarized opinion and that seems to me qualitatively different than, for example, a CPG on housing or on a particular health condition which doesn't give rise to those polarized opinions. So I think in that kind of context it's just helpful to remind all of the members involved in that kind of group that CPGs are open to all members regardless of their political viewpoint. Are we content to move forward then? Can I approve the CPG on commercial sexual exploitation? Thank you. I move to the next CPG proposed on end of life choices and I invite any comments from the committee. Are we content to approve that CPG? Thank you very much. Finally, the proposed CPG on heart disease and stroke. Again, I invite any comments. Are we content to approve that CPG? Yes. Thank you very much. Now move into private session.