Welcome to toffy TV, just a player ratings for Everton 2, Leicester City 2. Leicester City win 4-2 on penalties Everton on the Calab掛 Cup. Very strange game. Leicester very much in control with two quick goals in the first half. Everton went into the second half, I don't think anyone around the ground felt like he really was going to happen. Mae'r subod o'r gwneud o'r awfod i'w ddiwethaf. Oedden nhw'n gwaith ar y gwasgwch ar y gwasgwch Trom Davison. Efallai yma i Llywodraeth Cymru a gael i'r panel sy'n gwybod i awfodol. Mae'r gwaith yn unig arall, mae'n cyfarwch yn ddod o'r ffordd o'r gwasgwch yn ddiwethaf. Mae'n gydig i'w gwasgwch ar y gwasgwch. Mae'n ddod o'r cyfrifio'r gwaith, mae'n gwybod i gwasgwch ar y gwasgwch. Ond dyna eich lle, eich gweithio'r bod yn fawr iawn. Ond oherwydd, mae'n gweithio! Ond yn gwneud eich lle, yn bod yn llestwyr, mae'n llai i gyd, ym 5 ar y ffordd, yn fard, ac yn ym 2, yn 10, ac mae gennych i wedi gael ei wneud i ddim yn ffordd, mae'n gweithio'n gweithio, mae'n gweithio'n gweithio'n erbyn, mae'n ddysgu'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio. Ultimately that led to them scoring the goal and a really poor set-piece goal and but as I said we got ourselves back into it and it's just typical everything you know our new motto should be that it's the hope that kills you really isn't it. So yeah massively disappointed but also yeah also in certain circumstances you can understand why you know you look at the team you look who we haven't got available. You look at the effort they've put in in the last two games and you can appreciate why players are struggling or struggle tonight. Difficult player you know two second choice full backs, centre defence in centre of the field. Young lads players coming back from injuries you know there's all a real mix at the moment and I think but I think what they did was they thought they had belief that they could come back and that isn't always there for Evan it's not always there. When we go 2-0 bam we don't always feel whether it be the fans or the players that we can come back and we did tonight and but in typical Evan fashion we go out on pens so disappointing. Player ratings John Pickford I'll give a six made one really good save at 2-0 obviously made penalty save some of his kicking was a little bit off tonight and also you need to start coming off his line and being hired up at his box to deal with threat over the top because he's just he's got into this thing now where I don't know whether it's because of what happened at Anfield but that was the cause of why that happened at Anfield. You need to get on the edge of his box if we're pushing forward so I've given him a six.  I think we've seen that when he tried to have a foot race with Jamie Vardy and got destroyed. Jamie Vardy played a little back heel on me but I think it was at Madison at the bar from that. But still got that leadership still got that experience still a good defender and just can't really put it into the other end anymore so yeah that's just the way it is. On the other side like Baines I'll give a seven and a half his goal was absolutely magnificent of course he missed the penalty and why wouldn't he's only a brilliant penalty taker and so on he put it in the same you know put it in the same place. But again his legs are not there but he's still an experienced player and knows how to deal with the opposition so I thought he did well tonight and his goal was just incredible and it was mad mad scenes all over the ground. Senderly friends Michael Keane I think Vardy just attacked himself tonight and Vardy knew every time that ball went over the top and let's be honest anyone with a bit of pace you put the ball over Michael Keane he's lost he's absolutely lost he doesn't really have a clue. He's a confidence player and once you can sort of get under the skin I think it really affects him. He did get better in the second half you know and he was better on the ball but ultimately you know for me he's not good enough he's not good enough as an Everton centre back. And he's definitely the one you know I think in the interpolation so I'll give him five and a half. Yeah he mean it next time I thought it was a little bit better a little bit more composed should have done better as opportunities to score certainly one in the first half and one sort of zip past his head in the second half. Probably should have took a pen if anyone's seen his pen in the cup of milk he probably should have took one so I'll give him six. Midfielmation hallgate I thought struggled in the first half but when we changed the shape of the second half played a lot better looked a lot more comfortable. First half was giving the ball away too much. Should have be too clever but we didn't have the men in there so they overran us. Second half we had a bit more men in there then defensively they dealt with the ball and also got that little bit of touch of class to move the ball out so I'll give him six and a half. Took his pen well as well. Tom Davis scored a good goal, struggled massively in the first half leg looked like jelly. Everything he hit was just bouncing one way or another put his in trouble a couple of times but second half did come back into it. Second half was a lot better so I'll give him a six and again just four to the end really. Bernard disappointed and got took off at half time, probably deservedly so. I think in games sometimes if you're going to pick a sub just because of his stature it's a lot easier to pick him. I don't think he's fully fit and he's got back properly since his injury. I don't know if he's fit enough anyway. Right decision to take him off so I'll give him a five, didn't really do anything to be honest. I won't be on the side, I won't be terrible, absolutely terrible. I don't think he's played well in the last couple of games but I think his wake off the ball is a ladder so I have good shape. I just thought tonight he was terrible, really, really terrible. I was getting two because he was just terrible and he got hooked which was the right decision. He went more central second half and again he was a little bit better but again I don't know whether how fit he is or what his levels are but he was poor tonight, very, very poor. He's so up and down, it's unbelievable, so up and down, this is the problem I sometimes have with him. He can create, he can have really good games and then he's just terrible and you can't have that in football. You need to have consistency, you've got to, you've got to be steady to be a good footballer. Maybe it's some better coaching, we'll wait and see. Up front with Charleston, worked really hard but without really getting on the end of anything, him and Don both worked really, really hard to get the rest of the teams in the game, especially from the long balls but it was difficult for him again, probably won on a little bit of empty but we'll work for everything. Got subbed in the end because I just thought he was gassed. I did notice when he got subbed, you know, dunk on face and didn't go over and give him a big hug or anything or anything, he just went and sat down because that's what happens when you're subbed.   I don't think I did, did I? With Charleston, six and a half. Dominic Arvindlun, seven, I thought he worked his bollocks off, I thought up front and on the left, really worked hard but without ever being a threat, I think he had one header that he put over, it was a good opportunity actually, he just never got over the ball and from a good moist keam ball. But works tremendously hard, this kid probably keeps himself, well does keep himself massively fit, you can see that and knows that it's all about keeping fit to get those chances and make sure. Again, you can excuse the kid for being a bit tired or whatever or not being the sharpest after the last couple of performances he's put in. On the second half when he moved more to the left, did the job for the benefit of the team more than anything so gave him a seven. The subs, moist keam obviously come on a hard time for Bernard, no drama, just come on. Tried, tried, didn't really work as I said he had one really good cross and one couple of shots but nothing really. Just asking sort of settled into the Premier League, hasn't really put his identity on it which has been difficult because he hasn't had many chances. So I'll give him a six and that might be being generous. I just wonder whether he was on the last penalty to be the hero, I don't know, whatever. I'll give him a six. But again, as I said, no drama as he came on and played and that was it. All this nonsense from Sunday. This is what winds me up. Everything's a drama and football instead of going, you know what? Young lads, plays football, got took off, that's the end of it. There's a game in three days, you'll probably get a chance and he did. And that's it. Drama over. And Cenk Towson, I thought didn't really do anything when he came on and then missed the penalty he basically allowed the goalie to die first and yet still put it in that corner. So he can get a four. Young Anthony Gordon, come on as well, made his debut which is fantastic for him. Couldn't really get into the game, you can see the levels physically. Tried to take them on a couple of times, never really had any joy. He did get back and make a couple of tackles which was good and I'll give him a six. But good daddy got his chance and it's good that Duncan brought him on. There's a couple of young lads on the bench tonight. Good daddy gave him a go.  It'll take him time just physically more than anything because the Premier League is such a physical league and you don't have to look at Moise Keane. He looked like a big strong lad and he struggled. So for a kid to come from the under-23s it's going to take a lot. He's got to settle in so he can get the fitness. The fitness is the most important thing. Make a couple of runs and they look knachad. So that's my, they're my player ratings. Let me know what you thought or whether you disagree. Let me know what you thought in the comments. Don't forget to check out my match reaction from The Guardian. 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Welcome to ToffeeTV, it is The Footy Show Daily. We're live here on Patreon. If you've got any comments, thoughts, questions, opinions, get them in. Let us know your thoughts. If you're not watching live, then why aren't you watching live? Well, it might be because you're just in work. A lot of people are going back to work, but if you wanna join us live, or if the option of being live, then join us over on Patreon. The link is in the description. So, yesterday we were in here, and League One and League Two formally decided that their seasons were finished. The teams at the top were promoted, and the teams at the bottom were relegated, and there's gonna be a playoff system. They are using their points per game. Very controversial system, but certainly locally it is meant that Tramio Rovers have been relegated by 0.04, which just seems really, really harsh when you think that they've won the last three games, and they've got a game in hand, going into those last few games. Yeah. Makes no sense, does it, almost. I mean, I understand why, I understand why they've done it, but if you've got a game in hand, and you're on a win and run of three games on the run, and I know that was before we've stopped, but even so, you would like to think that momentum is with you, and you've got that opportunity to turn it round, and to go from thinking, those players will be thinking with nine, 10 games to go, we can get out of this one, a good run now, know what we're doing, got that game in hand, that'll elevate us to here, and it's been taken away from them.  Mm-hmm.  Do you think that, we spoke about this a couple of months, might be a couple of months, I'm not so sure, not so sure long, I don't know. Do you think that maybe they should have looked at a way of having a play-off system that involved the teams at the bottom of league one, so that it made it a little bit fairer because the teams coming up, they're playing to come up, whereas the teams we've gone down, it's been taken out of their hands, and I just feel like it would have been interesting, because obviously we see in other countries, you've got the likes of Germany, certainly, they have a play-off, the team we think who finishes third from bottom plays, the team who finishes third from top, and they have a two-legged play-off to decide who will be in the Bundesliga. Do you think that maybe something they should have looked at, some different way of looking at it, just considering the circumstances, and an opportunity, because we'll come on in a bit and a lesson what they're doing, but in times like this, why not think out the box a little bit, why not try and maximise the revenue, maximise the exposure on the leagues and make it a little bit fairer, because all I'm seeing from this is, the negative impact, negative PR on the leagues, where I genuinely think they could have been a lot fairer system if they'd used their heads.  If we're seeing the Premier League and all the testing and everything, it's hard to do the stringing stuff, it's hard to do to get back to coming within a week of it, and there's the stadiums, Premier League stadiums, you know, we've only just had the Messi side derby, then you, you know, confirmed, think of the stadiums that are in league one and league two, you know, with the up-to-stand and this, that and the other. There's a lot of expense going out of it as well. You know, we've got... We've got Ric Parise, you know, just because we've made some final decisions on things, that doesn't mean clubs aren't still going to be safe, you know, we're still going to lose clubs, probably, because of the financial implications, of course. I mean, it's just very... It's very, very difficult to... You see, this was one of the things about cancelling the whole thing and starting again, from back to August would have been that everybody, we didn't finish a season, so it's incomplete, and we go back and start again, because we didn't finish the season, and that was probably the only way, really, that would have appeased everybody, I think, near enough, obviously, people who would have been harsh on, like, to Liverpool, or they've been very harsh on, like, to Leeds and Mesh Braum and other teams, Coventry City and teams like that, but it would have been a way that... The reality of it is there's no fair way to probably do it, and I don't know where financially these teams, I don't think, can play in other competitions, where do you play them, how do you do it, where does that stop? No, no, I just... But it just strikes me that... I mean, Peter Buret would have gone up, they, Dara McCanteen, he's saying, they won seven of their last nine games, and they've got seven of the bottom nine to play, in their last nine, so he's there today, going on and on, we've definitely got up, because, I mean, you can never say that, but he's saying the teams they've been playing are all at the bottom of the league, and they're on a run at seven wins and nine. You're feeling, you're on that roll of winning games, so he's going to feel like it's eight, doesn't he? I just find it... I just find it a bit strange, and I understand why you can't play the games, listen. With the testing that needs to go on, it's far too expensive, you hope what this is about, you know, certainly the women's game, and in Scotland they've made that decision, it's actually cheaper to tell you. It just strikes me as saying that, you know, you still having these play-offs, like, why not, why not, why have play-offs then? Why not just say to the team who finished eighth, or whoever's, you know, predicted to finish eighth with the points per game, why not just say, well, they are up then, why have this play-off? The final's going to be at Wembley? Like, why does it, like, why not, why does it need to be at Wembley? Do you know what I mean? It just doesn't make any sense, and that's what I'm saying. If you've got a book out Wembley, what's the expense of booking out Wembley for a game? You know, and I just find that, I mean, the biggest, the maddest thing in this is, Wicham, who jumped from eighth to third. Yeah. No playing again, just on the points, I think. So it's mad, you've got Sunderland who were above them, you've got, you know, like a just-shed-peatable United.  I fully understand, you know, you've had to come up with an idea, and this is the idea, and I fully understand that's not, I just thought that with those playoffs, that I just thought it could have been some scope just to widen it a little bit somehow, just, I know, listen, you're absolutely right, it's more games, it's more money, it's more grounds. But why not be just, I don't know, why not just try and be a little bit inventive? Why not? I mean, let's just jump to that MLS story while we're talking about it. So the MLS in America is gonna come back and have this tournament of Disney World. So they'd only played two games when the season stopped. They season started at the beginning of March, so they played two games and it stopped. So it's gonna be like a World Cup, isn't it? Essentially, it's gonna be group stages, then knockout stages, then a winner, and the winner's gonna get a Champions League spot next year for their region, which sounds really good for like TV watching. It sounds really clever, and it all being at one place, and obviously being Disney World, and sure they'll use the hotels like the NBA are doing. And the Wide World Sports Facility is brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. It was actually one of my little dreams. I always wanted Evan to go there and play in a little pre-season thing. And basically, at the end of the tournament, they will, whatever your wins are, they will translate it to the league, and then the league will start again from August, and will continue to the end and go on to playoffs. And it's basically a quick way of catching up with what they've missed, rather than saying, right, we need to start with me. There's just not enough time in the calendar over there to do that. I certainly compete with other sports and stuff. It's just, and the NFL, it just can't be done. Now, listen, of course, they've got somewhere like Florida, where they can go and it can all be held in one place. But I just thought that's really clever. That's just a way of thinking out the box and doing something a little bit different. And obviously, there is more money in it than there will be in league one and league two. But it's just that innovation that I just think that... I don't know whether league one and league two are missing out on here, and obviously, listen, as you mentioned, there's money is the number one. Yeah, we're in the 26 teams going down to Florida to play. Well, Orlando city, you know what I did there, but 25 others are going down there to play. Yeah, but, you know, in league one, there's 24 teams alone, so you're talking league one and league two. You've got 48 teams, wouldn't you? Yeah, but I'm not talking about all the teams I'm talking about. Why is the cutoff, though? Well, four, bottom four, playoff four. Try your best at the bottom. You've got an opportunity. Or if you're, was any team mathematically already relegated? I don't know. It's the reality. So... I'd have to look. But I would say that the four, and the four, bottom four, and the playoff four would be the teams. And that, to me, would just... There'd be a few extra games, keep them one-legged games and play book out one stadium. And just play them all. Book out one stadium somewhere and just play them all. And do it that way. I just... For me, that just makes a little bit more sense. It's just very, very difficult, I guess, for those clubs. They haven't been training and bringing them back. But the other teams are going to come back in the playoffs anyway? No, no. So it doesn't... It's just four exits. I just think that could have solved a hell of a lot of problems. Well, it's mad anyway, because it's the English Football League, the EFL, but yet the championship are playing their games. A league one and a league two aren't booked for the playoffs. It's all different anyway, isn't it? Whichever kind of way you look. Sorry, you lost us for a moment there, the pitch you went off. I apologise. It's all different because, like you say, the championship are playing and league one and league two aren't playing. So it is all a bit... It's all a bit wishy-washy, but I guess it's unprecedented times. And unprecedented times means that mad things happen, basically, don't they? But that EFL tournament does sound quite interesting, doesn't it? But it sounds really good. It'll certainly be given there a watch like it'll be interesting to see how well they're doing. And I guess it'll throw up some surprises, because it's just a tournament. It'd be good to watch an interesting tournament, to watch over a month, and maybe the way Melissa has been thinking is... Mainly in America, they have obviously in the basketball, the college basketball, they have March Madness, which captivates everybody. You know, it's this tournament over a month. People get their brackets and try and fill them out and predict the winner and all that kind of thing. And I think they're just trying to latch onto that. And that'd be quite interesting moving forward to see... Because it wouldn't surprise me if MLS thought we could do like a cup competition at the end of the year or the beginning or even in the middle of the year to just change it up, just do something a little bit different to get... You know, because, listen, sailing for MLS and American viewers, and the way they have sports, there's a lot of games. And because it goes into a playoff system, it's almost like half or even morals have to feel like they don't even matter in MLS where there's another sport and it can feel slightly different because those sports are useful. If you're a football fan coming from the outside into MLS and you see all these games and it's a bit of a convoluted system, and then it's like, oh, and now we have playoffs. What? So maybe it's almost interesting. It's like, what if they rejig the league and say, well, we're not having playoffs at the end, but we're going to have this tournament in the middle. We're going to almost shoot everybody. The winner of the league would be the playoff system is there because there's no relegations. No, I know. I know understand that. It keeps people going. If you're, you know, I look out for Orlando City, so if you're Orlando City on this year, you're in 10th. Oh, yeah, yeah. Then with five, six, eight games to go and you're looking, you know, there's nothing. We're not going to win the league. We didn't win that cup thing. What's the point? Whereas if you're Orlando City with six games to go or four games to go, you can still get that place in the playoff. The only thing I don't understand with the playoff is, yeah, and it's something I think they need to do. Now they've extended the league and more teams are coming in, is extend the places. It's like the top six in both the East Conference and the West Conference. And yeah, the sixth and the fifth place teams have to play like games against the third and the fourth. The top two go through to automatically to the semis. But if you've had two conferences with eight teams and you could play it, it's just the easier to do it, you know what I mean? It doesn't make it like, someone having to play an extra game. They haven't expanded the way of doing things with the amount of teams that have come in. And that's what I think they need to do. Yeah, whether they just stick to their own divisions and then come in for the playoffs, like you'd find in other places. Because you go out and play like five games for them in the East Conference as well, or you'll play all in teams once, but you'll play like four at home and five away or whatever it is, you know? And that might be fine. I just think the playoff places though should be stretched to eight in both the divisions. And then you've got a final 16 then for the playoffs and you can have one leg or two, just one leg will do, and that's the final. But it's gone to that tournament, it's definitely going to be interesting. And on the back of that, moving on to another thing we've got down. This is what? This is kind of what the Champions League are trying to do in August in Lisbon. Now, because obviously the Champions League final was supposed to be in Istanbul and the Europa League final was in Danx in Poland. And the moving from Istanbul to Lisbon, Lisbon looks like it's going to be the favourite to do this. It's because it's got two big stadiums, isn't it?  I think it's definitely Spain. But they're looking to move it anyway to Lisbon, so they're going to have an A-team knockout. All play behind closed doors of the two stadiums, one off-games up to the final. So they're going to try to create that little bit of a well-covered territory where all the teams are in the one place. The only stand-out issue at the minute is there's still round of 16 games left, like Manchester City haven't played the second leg against Madrid. And what they're trying to say is they want to play those games in Lisbon as well and get them games played, just a one-off. Obviously because there's just one game left of them. There's four games, is there a thing? There's something like that, that's outstanding, the second legs. Now, what's happening there is you're going to have teams like I don't know whether City have objected, but there will be teams like Man City who'll turn around and go, well, I'm gone. We had to play in the Bernabao. Why can't we play at the Atead and play at the second leg? Do you know what I mean? It's whether people are going to be... I mean, already it's different because no fans are there. Yeah. So whether teams will stick to the guns and go, no, we want to play the second leg in our place or we're not playing, then whether you're A-facival, you don't play here, you're fourth at it because this is where it is, I don't know. The final is the 23rd of August, the Champions League final, that's what they've penciled in. So that'll be interesting. And obviously the Europa League, it looks like it's moving to Germany, so it looks like Germany are going to stage that, doing a similar thing, but again there, I think Wolves have still got a second leg to play in that. So again, it's those teams who haven't played those second legs, are they going to play them in where the tournament is a couple of days a year. So that's going to be interesting, because I think it's that well-cup type thing because I know that they're looking to fill this summer with that kind of tournament, they've missed out on the Euros and they're looking to fill it with that tournament and you might forget their chance here with the Europa League and the Champions League, which will of course fall in the off-season, because we know for the, certainly for English clubs in the Premier League, we know that the Premier League looks like it's going to be back on the 29th of August or 12th of September, they're the two dates, they haven't decided on it yet. The international break would have been in between, but they're not playing that out, you know. So, I mean, I don't know why it couldn't just be the fifth, but apparently the two dates are the 29th or the 12th of September with our season finishing on the 26th of July. So if it's Man City, you ain't getting much of a break, are you? No, you finish the Champions League final on the 23rd of August. If it's the 29th that you restart, you start in a week later, you won't have had a break. Ideally for them. The price of success, I'd say, isn't it? That's just the problem. I mean, you can't just say to Man City, well, we're going to put off the league season for another three weeks. No, no, because they could end up going out to Real Madrid in the first game and you've put it off. So it is the price of success and it will, maybe they will benefit then from the winter break that's in now, obviously, in this country. Man City's case has been finalised, finished today, I believe, with the ban and that will, the result that will be heard in the first half of July, apparently as well, so that's done and dusted. Adam Conroy says, could MLS introduce relegation to add a bit more competition, as I have never understood that about MLS, the fact that there is no relegation. Well, the reason why there's no relegation, Adam, is because it's a paying league. People pay a lot of money to set up franchise teams in it and if you're setting up a team that costs 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80 million just to buy in, and someone says to you, well, you could be relegated. It's where you'd be relegated to, because there's no actual pyramid. The only way you could do it is if you add MLS 1 and MLS 2, that would be the only way and I don't really see them doing that either. Then in MLS 2 you'd be, you wouldn't be relegated, would you? No, you wouldn't be relegated from it. You'd be trying to get back up and then what would you be competing for? They've just got to come up with a better way of working all these teams. I actually think it's fine. I think it's fine. But does it stop? No, obviously there's got to be. I think the thing was to get 30 teams, wasn't it? That was Don Garbus thing was to get 30 franchise teams. We've got, obviously there's like a sense of matter in it now and we've got teams, recent teams coming in. Austin's coming in, isn't it? I've seen Miami's in there now as well. St Louis, that in or is that coming in? Miami's coming in. Miami's in. We've had recently, we've had Atlanta coming in. They've expanded it. I think the two divisions, like I said, what I would do. Memphis is about, Memphis is one of them on the sign of coming. So what I, me personally would say, just expand the playoff bit, so it's very clear this is what we do, we do this. That's why Adam, it's money. Look at the money Beckins put in this company and all of his partners. They've just built a stadium and it's not their stadium. It's a temporary stadium before the real stadium. Gary Waters, we do have the US Open Cup tournament, that is our equivalent of the FA Cup. Yeah, fully aware of that Gary. It's actually like the second longest oldest cup competition in the world, isn't it? I think after that. What's bizarre about that is that they just play it like college, like practice, you love it and there's like, they don't play at the stadiums. But then that's not that too similar to art in the early rounds of our FA Cup. Home teams are still playing, they don't play in their own stadium in the early parts and then we do it. No, I know it. I just think that, and Gary, you'll know more than anyone being a sports fan is could they just capture that sort of march madness like getting a fan who isn't a regular fan to watch it, that's what I was saying. I don't mean in terms of like altering, just coming up with a format that, it's like you're trying to get that fanning of someone who isn't either into football or someone who's like a Premier League fan and you just want that munt of like, like you can't be bothered following it all the way from March to December and just having that munt where you go, you know what? I'm going to pick that team. I guess the best way to do it, you could do it is to take up the world wide sport every year. That's what I'm saying. Right, and do it for like you say a month and have games at like two, five, you know, like the World Cup. I don't know how you do it fan wise, but maybe you buy a ticket like for pre-season and you watch the three games for it. So you're not thinking, but if you've done it like that and then maybe it's set it up like a World Cup. Don't you think Gary Ward says Nashville hard in the MLS now, yeah. Don't you think if the Premier League or the League or the Bundesliga could do that for a month, they would. Oh, of course. Exactly. You said to the Premier League, right, this year every team is going to go to America for a month or Asia or whatever they want that market to be in and you said to them, we're going to play a World Cup style tournament over a month. The Premier League would just go, yeah. Of course they would say. They would absolutely love that. I just think it would be very interesting to see what happens at the end of this tournament and just to see if a few people in MLS go that way. That really works. My TV ratings were really good, you know, and it might not have anything to do with how the season finishes and the playoffs might be the same but if they can find a way of getting a month in the middle of the season when everyone's up to speed or a month before, maybe, it's all listen, they'd have to fit it round the calendar because they've got like the Champions League and stuff. But I just I just, but when it's MLS all-star game, it breaks anyway. No, or even if they said, no, but I'm saying, but what they could do is play that tournament and have the all-star game bang in the middle of it all. Oh, you could say as well, just and this could apply to any league, I suppose but for say anything for MLS if you were to, for MLS especially for this, if you were to say right, no, you're saying before, you play you only play teams against your teams in your division. So East only play East and West only play West and you might, only time your meet has had in the playoffs or in this tournament and you would wipe about 15 games off the schedule and if you got rid of them and then you put this tournament in the middle and it was like this and Disney path under it because all the people that come into Disney for a month imagine, imagine, imagine like people going, I'm going on all, like imagine it was always right and ever and ever you went to Florida, we'd be like, just go to Florida for a couple of weeks to watch the blues and then it'd be like, oh, we've got three to the quarters, I'm going to have to stay the next week. That wouldn't be a way to do it, wouldn't it? It'd be amazing. If you called it the Premier League Cup and so 20 teams for three weeks you could do it and just play every three days and it'd be part of the pre-season would be amazing. I know it's probably never going to happen but it would be amazing. But it would be amazing. You don't know because what you don't know is when this tournament's played in Disney's wide world of sports, Premier League are always looking for opportunities, they look and go all in gone. Instead of us just trying to get Liverpool and Man United and Arsenal and then Real Madrid and all that, we can actually get a Cup Competition, Premier League Cup Competition going. What have MLS said? Only the top ten teams get into this tournament. This is just another thing. All the ten are filled with like Premier League teams and the League of teams and German teams and for them it'd be like money making. I like the Premier League Cup I'd better just show. No, I know what I'm saying. From an MLS point of view, Gary Waters will have to see how the Disney tournament goes. It's a good idea though. I think for MLS it's a great idea. It's a great idea. The Premier League No it is, it's just fine the time and the calendar. No it is but then a pre-season. More Man City news. Yeah, Pep's got his number two now. Obviously Miquel Arter left in December to become Arsenal manager. There was talk of like Van Bronco's, wasn't it being the number two? There was talk of Van Bronco's was going to replace Guardiola and then there was talk that Pep, this was his last season he was going to leave but they've appointed one man well, Leo I think he says now, 54 year old. Coached Guardiola actually at the end of his career for the Rados in Mexico. 20 coaching jobs in his career. He was the youngest ever league manager at the age of 29 when he managed Salamanca and he's also managed Real Oviedo and Real Sociedad as well. He's been into Japan he's managed in yesterday I think it was and so he's had a lot of experience. Guardiola really, really trusts him and I guess that's the key thing is and if you're bringing the number two in and I think the good thing is that he's older than Guardiola and therefore sometimes I think when you've got that this is what we spoke of we spoke the other day about Marco Brons as Andy likes to call him and his biggest thing was when he lost his trust that number two who had loads of experience was older than him he's doing very well, family have a big portal the other night as well and look like they might get into your head. He went off and managed them in the summer and Silver went and brought in Lewis Bow Morty didn't have any real experience whereas Guardiola's done he's gone from having a tether who didn't have that experience but he was with them and obviously they've got Brian Kidd and they've got other people around them he's gone and got someone who's got loads of experience and when you see that all or nothing Doc and he has that fella who's a water polo player who's his mate he just goes, you're a nob then he'll have that with this fella but this fella's also a football man so he'll have a couple of people to bounce off and he might well challenge him but Guardiola said he's fantastic and he was a lane so much off of him as a man some of it different isn't he we've seen him at Salag's Vegas and he was always changing up his coaches every three years keeping it fresh, keeping the players on their toes not getting too familiar with everything and making it different and maybe that's what maybe that's what Peps recognised is that hasn't been a guy's season for them in the Premier League in terms of they're obviously not going to win the league so maybe it's time to go from one extreme a young up and coming assistant manager to someone with a bit more experience but you might have a fella now because shit he do are sloppy in games and they are overplaying things and this fella might just come in and go you know what let's just tighten up a little bit let's do this a little bit you know and he might actually and probably will because he's been a manager and seen it and done it he might actually challenge Pep a little bit I'm not saying Arteta did but it's a bit different Arteta was the student and Guardiola was the teacher where this fella it's almost role-versed a little bit all of Guardiola's incredible and done incredible he might have someone who actually was doing that wrong and I guess people like maybe might be good for people like John Stones who may be lost a way a little bit bit of experience isn't it Josh he says in terms of that tournament sounds similar to the GAA All Island format he says that the he says Ulster Leinster, Munster, Narrow Down obviously wants teams are knocked out so he's just very similar to what he's doing it's going to be interesting it's certainly an interesting thing an interesting cup competition it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out and I think a few lights will go off on people's heads when they see it and go yeah we could do that we spoke of this before because obviously they have the International Champions Cup and there's been talk about that because the people who run it saying they're not making any money because clubs are not bringing the players over he said he wants he's had meetings with UEFA and FIFA apparently to make it a real designated tournament so teams have to bring over full squads I don't know maybe that plays into it football is always trying obviously they're always looking for angles that the ultimate goal is to have a super league that's the ultimate goal we know that but things like this fall in line and as I said you're always trying to stimulate the viewer as well the television viewer and always trying to come up with new concepts so it's not just the same beginning the season end of the season so we'll wait and see


While the Russian aggression in Ukraine rages on, refugees, most of whom are women and children, have found comfort in Europe. Local and regional leaders have stepped in once again, this time to provide a safe place for Ukrainian children through camps organised across European cities and regions. An act of solidarity that offers a sense of normality to some of the millions of Ukrainian children whose lives have been shaken by the war. The Bavarian Youth Exchange Foundation, in cooperation with the German Youth Hostel Association, Landesverband Bayern, and the Association of Russian-speaking youth in Germany, Yunost, Landesverband Bayern launched a programme called Language Encounters, which brought together Bavarian and Ukrainian youths. In total, eight summer camps were organised, with programmes of each camp including sport and creative activities. This enabled the young people to get to know a new language through a fun method. Melanie Hummel, Bavarian State Minister for European Affairs and International Affairs, and Chairwoman of the Board of Trustees of the Bavarian Youth Exchange Foundation, spoke to us about the aim of the camp. In the whole of Bavaria there are summer camps for young people from Ukraine. I think it is so important that young people from Bavaria and Ukraine can meet, that they can exchange with each other, that they can learn the language. The Pomorsky region in Poland, with the support of the Polish Scouting and Guiding Association Gdansk branch, hosted children from Ukraine in Viniut. During their stay, Ukrainian children had the chance to discover Polish culture and share their traditions with their peers from Poland, spending quality time together, making new friends, resting and enjoying the summer. We spoke to Mieszeslaw Struk, Marshal of the Pomorsky region, and a member of the EPP-COR group who organised this summer camp. A few months ago Chairman of the Region Committee asked the members of the Region Committee to pay attention to the potential opportunities of the EPP-COR group, children and young people from Ukraine, in their regions, in their cities or in their electoral districts. I also decided to use the free resources that we have left, especially after the outbreak of the Russian-Ukrainian War, from the Polish-Russian programme, so that they would be dedicated, not for projects carried out in Russia, but for the organisation of the EPP-COR group, children and young people from Ukraine. The Vielkopolsko region in Poland hosted children from Kharkiv region. During their stay, Ukrainian children had the chance to participate in sport activities, as well as visit cultural centres. We spoke to Marik Volzniak, President of the Vielkopolsko region, and a member of the EPP-COR group who organised this summer camp. In the EPP-COR group, in the Vielkopolsko region, the various attractions were full. They could have left the areas that were all the time threatened by shooting, all the time in the immediate range of military activities. I think it is very important for them, for them to be able to spend a peaceful time outside of the Kharkiv region, which is not completely safe for every day. Next to these activities that are about the acceptance of this large, over 100,000 group of women and children who live in the entire Vielkopolsko region, such help for those who live all the time in the Ukrainian area, in this area, all the time supporting military activities, I think it is also very important and important. I think that this activity should be continued in all places in the European Union. The Vielkopolsko region made the first step, I think, not the last. The Maramurish County Council in Romania, together with the Association of Cities in Ukraine, the Maramurish Prefects Institution, the Maramurish Inspectorate for Emergency Situations, YMCA Romania and YMCA Bayamare have organised a camp for Ukrainian children from conflict zones in Donetsk, Kharkiv, Mikhailov and Butcher. During their stay, Ukrainian children had the chance to participate in sports activities, as well as visit cultural centres. They visited the Bayamare Museum of Astronomical Sciences, where in the Planetarium Dome they watched a presentation of the constellations and the movie Satellics in Ukrainian. They also visited the Village Museum, as well as the old centre of the Bayamare municipality, where they could admire the historical ruins and Stevens Tower. The children also enjoyed themselves through a series of activities such as Olympic Games, dance battles, archery, talent shows and team challenges. At the end of the camp, each Ukrainian child received a small gift. Ionel Ovidyub Bogdan, President of the Maramurish County Council and member of the EPP-COR Group who joined the camp, told Ukrainian parents and children that Maramurish stands with Ukraine and the Ukrainian people and that the county will continue to play an active role to ensure a better future for Ukraine and its people. EPP-COR members have already organised summer camps in Niem, France, Bavaria, Germany and in the regions of Wielkopolska and Pomerania in Poland. The costs of the camps are footed by the EU municipalities and regions participating, together with public, private and civil society partners. The President of the Association of Cities of Ukraine and Mayor of Kiev, Vitaly Klitschko, congratulated the cities and regions that organised camps in the European Union for Ukrainian children saying that this is an act of solidarity that provides a sense of normalcy to some of the millions of Ukrainian children whose lives have been upended by the war. Meanwhile, cities and regions remain committed to contribute to the reconstruction of Ukraine to give these children a better future.


Welcome to Microterrorz. Scary stories for kids, where it's always the spooky season, full of chills, thrills, and spine-tingling spooks. Microterrorz are family-friendly frights for those ages 8 and up. And while our stories are for younger years, we are still talking about things that go bump in the night, and some children may not be able to handle what others can. Parental consent is recommended. Now for tonight's Microterrorz. The distress call. Part 3. Gone? I explained. What do you mean everyone is gone? The girl grabbed me by the collar of my shirt and pulled me closer. Gone? She reiterated. They don't exist outside of false projections of themselves. Those are what that alien force was using to lure everyone to their doom. Doom? Yes, doom. That's probably where your dad was taking you. You were about to be wiped out of existence. The lights in the room quivered, and then a sharp burst of sparks flew down from the ceiling above the door. A glinting figure generated inside the room just under the shower of electrical sparks. As it took its complete form, I saw it was my dad. Well, now I knew it definitely wasn't my dad, and all the alien sludge people projection stuff this girl was spewing was dead on. You're not my dad, I howled. But you want to see him? Don't you? The glitchy projection said. It hadn't glitched before when everything was calmer, so I could only imagine that the stress of the situation at hand was creating its current, unstable presentation. It said. No, I said. What are you? The girl asked. The projection of my dad turned and faced her. It said glitching again and taking the form of a different person, a woman with long blonde hair wearing a pair of humanities promise coveralls. The woman said. The girl next to me, Carly, just stared in bewilderment. Her eyes went wide and her mouth gaped open. Mom? She said with a tremble. I nudged Carly on the arm, reminding her it wasn't her mom and she was quick to snap out of it. The projection then turned to me. It said. Come, join them. What other option do you have? No one else is coming for you. Option? This thing clearly didn't know who they were dealing with. I wasn't going to be intimidated by creepy alien projections. I charged it, expelling a primal roar and threw a punch as hard as I could. The projection just stood there. Unfazed by my beast-like blitz as my fists flew right through it. The weight behind my punch made my body tumble through it too. The charge of electricity shocking me and making my hair stand up. When I regained my balance, the projection of Carly's mom was staring at me, straight faced. I turned to the control panel and glided by fingers over the appropriate buttons and the door whooshed open. I shouted to Carly. She ran after me, blazing through the projection as well, knowing now that it wasn't going to physically hurt us. Together, Carly and I ran as fast as we could to the closest elevator. Inside, I looked at the control panel for my best option. The docking bay level stood out to me as did the life pod I knew my ship had. I pressed the button for the docking bay and the elevator doors closed. Do you guys have a life pod in the bay? I asked. I think so, Carly said, still shaken by the sight of her mom after so many years. Good. We're getting on that thing and blowing this pop stand, I said. As the elevator shot down level after level, going speeds that I'm sure would make me nervous if I thought about it more. I put a hand on Carly's shoulder. She jumped at first, but then lightened up with a smile. Sorry about your mom, I said. Thanks, I'm sorry about your dad. Thanks, I said. Suddenly the elevator came to an abrupt stop, tossing both Carly and I around like pinballs. We both hit the floor and looked up to the fluorescent light above us that started to buzz and flicker. I stood up first, and then the light finally regulated itself. I helped Carly to her feet. This is what it does, she said, holding back a whimper. She had seen the fall of her ship. She knew what had happened before, and it all seemed to be coming back to her. What happened on your ship? I asked. She swallowed and took a deep breath. The sludge made contact with us. We didn't know what it was. It never appeared on radar. It seeped into our electrical systems and compromised the entire ship. It studied us, it grew smarter because of us. It was able to use our electricity against us, creating phantom versions of the crew, the projections. One by one, everyone was duped and lured away. Before long, everyone was gone. I was too late by the time I caught on, so I threw myself into the cryogenic sleep, hoping it would leave me alone. And it did, I said. I was also in a cryogenic chamber. I guess there's something about it that the alien sludge can't probe. Carly seemed to agree with my assessment. I looked around the elevator, my gaze finally settling upon the control panel. If the sludge had compromised the electrical makeup of the ship, I wondered if there would be any sign of it behind the panel. I ran my fingers along the edging of the control screen until I felt two tiny divots. I placed my finger in them before shifting the panel upward. It came loose and I pulled it away from the wall. Exposed black wires connected the back of the panel into the wall. Carly aimed the flashlight into the open wall cavity and I moved in for a closer look. All of the wires were covered in an undulating black sludge. As the light from the flashlight's beam hit the exposed wires that were connected to the back of the panel, the black coloring of them began to crawl back down the wires and into the wall, revealing their true colors of blue, red and yellow. They weren't black wires at all. They had just been covered by the alien sludge. That stuff is on everything, I said, completely amazed by the unheard of life form I was witnessing. And from the simple fact that it slid back into the wall and away from us, I assumed it wasn't aggressive towards people. It used the electricity to manipulate and take things over. At least this stuff isn't aggressive towards...  I screamed, let go of the panel and ripped the sludge off. I threw it to the ground and watched it crawl back up the wall and slip into the open cavity. The ship rumbled like a hungry belly. The alien presence within its core had been disturbed. We need to get out of here, I shouted. I picked up the panel that I tossed to the floor and jammed it between the elevator doors. With all my might, I pried it from one side to the next, shimmying madly until the elevator doors split. Carly jumped into action and slipped her fingers between the doors. Together, we pulled the elevator doors apart and exposed the inner workings of humanity's promise. It was a conglomeration of wires, steel fixtures, criss-crossing beams and computer systems, all heavily tainted by the alien sludge. I leaned out of the elevator and looked down. That's where I saw the level in which the docking bay would be. Come on, I commanded. I helped Carly out of the elevator and together we climbed down the steel fixtures and beams, careful not to touch the sludge. When I felt comfortable enough to just drop, I did. Carly followed suit. We hit a metal landing with a steel door in front of us, the door that would have opened if our elevator had made it down this far. The sludge was waking up. I could hear it squelch and moan in its own alien ways. It seemed to be alert, wise to our plan of escape. There was a sensor pad on an upright beam next to the steel door. Using my skills, I ran my fingers across it in a pattern that I knew would unlock it. And thank goodness it worked. Just as the sensor chimed and accepted the security pattern, a glob of the black sludge fell down next to us. The impact sent it splashing in every direction. Carly shrieked and grabbed on to me. Another glob dropped next to us, followed by another. And another, it was raining alien slime, the steel door hissed as it opened. And when we turned around to walk through it, we were startled again by the sight of my dad. The defective projection stood there, its image glitching in and out. It was the most unstable I had seen yet. His eyes flashed white before completely vanishing, leaving two gaping holes of static. His voice boomed with a haunting distortion. He said, his voice seemed to come from everywhere all at once. A second projection sizzled to life next to him. It was Carly's mom. Her eyes were gone too, replaced by two white hot glowing orbs. Her voice was choppy and deep. I grabbed Carly by the hand and screamed, run! Together we blasted right through the projections and into the corridor that led to the docking bank. We turned a corner, just as another projection appeared. It was Charlotte. She stood in the middle of the hallway with an ordinary smile and tilted head. I love you. Her sweet giggling voice reverberated all around us. I resisted the urge to stop and kept running, blowing right through her as well. Carly and I drifted around another corner where I saw a yellow and black striped door up ahead. It was the docking bay. I prayed the escape pod was still there and capable of light. We skidded to a stop in front of the door and I frantically assaulted the control panel until the door hissed and split open. A deafening roar erupted from within the docking bay. As the door completely split apart, the lights inside the docking bay flickered like an unhinged light show. Carly and I stood in the threshold of the bay, looking in on a surreal sight, a conjuring of all our fears. The creature that consumed most of the bay was scaly and dark. It was larger than life, displaying sharp teeth not only in its mouth but from other mouths at the ends of its long tentacles.  The monster hissed and roared. It gurgled and clipped. The leviathan, I stammered. It was one of the creatures that rose from the depths on Earth. One of the creatures that caused the final events on our home planet which put humanity's promise into motion. It was the image of pure fear, pure intimidation and hopelessness. That's how I knew it wasn't real. It was a last-ditch effort by the aliens to stop us. They knew we were close to escaping. It's not real, keep going! I shouted to Carly over the deafening roars of the monster. I gripped her hand even tighter and ran through the docking bay, breaking through the projection of the leviathan. On the other side there was a circular door on the wall marked by red lights that indicated the escape pod was still inside. I tapped a button on the control panel that opened the door. With the roaring manifestation of pure fear behind us, Carly and I rushed to the escape pod and climbed inside. I fidgeted with the buttons and was able to close the circular door behind us. The lights in the pod lit up and the engine hummed to light. Carly hit a button on her side of the craft that opened a bay door ahead of us. The fastness of space was sprawled out before us. Let's blow this pop stand, Carly said with a wink, using my exact phrase from earlier. I hit a button on the dash and fire exploded from the thrusters on the back of the escape pod. We shot out of the terminal with insane and unmatched propulsion. Humanity's promise and humanity's last hope, the two ships that were supposed to save the future of mankind were now nothing more than ever shrinking dots behind us. I breathed a sigh of relief, but that was quickly interrupted by a sickening feeling in the pit of my stomach. Sure, we had escaped the alien-infested spaceships, but now we were alone on a small craft that would only supply a limited amount of oxygen and fuel. Carly must have felt the same way. Her silence in the seat next to me spoke volumes. She and I both knew that we were the only two humans left in the universe now. We had no food, nowhere to go, and no one to save us. The sick feeling in my stomach started to fade, and in place of it was a fluttering sense of acceptance. Knowing there was nothing waiting for us out there, my body relaxed. There wasn't any use in fighting the inevitable. Carly reached ahead of her and tapped the computer screen on the dash. I glanced over and looked at the fuel meter. It was still at 99%, so we definitely had time to kill. I saw the oxygen level was at 76%. The tanks must have been damaged somehow. Maybe when the thrusters propelled us out of the terminal. It dropped to 75%, the longer I looked at it. Maybe we didn't have as much time to kill as I initially thought. At the bottom of the screen where Carly started to hover her finger was a red, circular button with S-O-S stamped in the middle. I watched Carly contemplate tapping the button, which would have sent out a distress call of our own. Even though it was useless since we were the only two humans left, I could see how tapping it would still be enticing. We have nothing to lose, Carly said in a soft, defeated voice. With the tip of her finger she tapped the red button. It turned white and confirmed a distress call had been broadcast out into space. The distress signal was traveling the speed of light, approximately 300 million meters every second. I assumed the signal would eventually be lost to time and space, traveling indefinitely until the end of the existence of everything. So you could only imagine the sinking feeling in my stomach when the computer screen beeped at us to say our distress call had been received and acknowledged. A moment later, a confirmation notice pinged on screen that something from somewhere was on its way to us. The end. Word searches, mysterious mazes and more. Microterrors.com is also where you can find us on your favorite social media and even send in your own scary story for us to tell. Plus, you'll learn more about our author, Scott Donnelly, who has other horrors for both young and old. I hope you'll join me again soon. From Microterrors, scary stories for kids.


Your spirit is connected to the Holy Spirit. Your spirit is one with the Holy Spirit. You can't separate the two. And so in the spirit, you are mature. In the spirit, you know God. You have perfect, unhindered fellowship with Him. In the spirit, you understand His will, His ways. You have joy and peace and love and power. So when you grow spiritually, it's not really your spirit growing. Rather, it's your spirit man gaining more influence over the other aspects of your person. Like the soul and the body.


From Boston, Massachusetts, it's theCUBE. Covering Actifio 2019 Data Driven. Brought to you by Actifio. Welcome back to Boston, everybody. You're watching theCUBE, the leader and on the ground tech coverage. My name is Dave Vellante, Stu Minimus here. John Furrier is also in the house. We are covering the Actifio Data Driven 19 event second year for this conference. It's all about data. It's all about being data driven. Charlie Kwan is here. He's the director of data and AI offering management at IBM, Charlie, thanks for coming on theCUBE. Happy to be here, thank you. So Actifio has had a long history with IBM. In fact, when the company got started, it had a time to market play. It took a virtualization product and it allowed them to be first, really, and then get heavily into the data virtualization. They've since evolved that, but you guys are doing a lot of partnerships together. We're going to get into that. But talk about your role with an IBM and what is this data and AI offering management thing? Yeah, absolutely. So data and AI is our business unit within the IBM overall corporation. Our focus and our mission is really about helping our customers drive better business outcomes through data, leveraging data in the context and in the pursuit of analytics and artificial intelligence or augmented intelligence. So the portion of the business that I'm part of is unified governance and integration. And if you think about data and AI as a whole, you can think about it in the context of the latter Oftentimes when we talk about data and AI, we talk about the foundational principles and capabilities that are required to help companies and our customers progress on their journey to AI. And it really is about the information architecture that we help them build. And that information architecture is essentially a foundational prerequisite around that journey to AI and analytics. And those layers of the latter to AI are collecting the data and making sure you have it easily accessible to the individuals that need it, organizing the data. That's where the unified governance and integration portfolio comes into play. Building trusted business ready data, high quality with governance around that, making sure it's available to be used later. The analyze layer in terms of leveraging the data for analytics and AI, and then infuse across the organization, leveraging those AI models across the organization. So within that context of data and AI, we've partnered with Actifio at the end of 2018. So before we get into that, so I have to, sorry to interrupt you, but Rob Thomas is, and I want to double click on what you just said. Rob Thomas is famous for saying there is no AI without AI. Meaning no artificial intelligence without information architecture. So sounds good, you talked about governance. That's obviously part of it. But what does that mean, no AI without AI? So it's really about the fundamental prerequisites. To be able to have the underlying infrastructure around the data assets that you have. The fundamental tendon is that data is one of your tremendous assets any enterprise may have. A lot of time and effort has been spent investing and man hours invested into collecting the data. Making sure it's available, but at the same time it hasn't been freed up to be able to use for downstream purposes. Whether it's operational use cases or analytic use cases. And the information architecture is really about how do you frame your data strategy so that you have that data available to use and to drive business outcomes later. And those business outcomes may be the results of insights that are driven out of the data. But they could also be part of the data pipeline that goes into feeding things like application development or test data management. And that's one of the areas that we're working with Tech2Fi on. So the information architecture is a framework that you guys essentially publish and communicate to your clients. It doesn't require that you have IBM products plugged in. But of course you can certainly plug in IBM products. If you're smart enough to develop an information architecture presumably and you show where your products fit and you're going to sell more stuff. But it's not a prerequisite. I can use other tooling if I want to do that. I think the framework is a good prerequisite. The products themselves of course know, right? But the framework is a good foundational construct around how you can think about it so that you can progress along that journey. All right, so you started talking about Actifio, your relationship there. So you've created the InfoSphere virtual data pipeline. Correct. Why did you develop that product? So then we'll get into it. Sure, it's all part of our overall unified governance and integration portfolio. Like I said, that's that organized layer of the ladder to AI that I was referring to. And it's all about making sure you have clear visibility and knowing what data assets you have. So we always talk about in terms of no trust and use. Know the data assets you have. Make sure you understand the data quality and the classification around that data that you have. Trust the data. Understand the lineage. Understand how it's been touched, how it's been transformed. Build a catalog around that data. And then use and make sure it's usable to downstream applications or downstream individuals. And the virtual data pipeline offering really helps us in that last category around using and making use of the data that assets that you have, putting it into directly into the hands of the users of that data. So whether they be data scientists and data engineers or application developers and testers. So the virtual data pipeline and the capabilities based on Actifio Sky Virtual Appliance really help build that snapshot data, provide the self-service user interface to be able to get it into the hands of application developers and testers or data engineers and data scientists. And why is that important? Is it because they're actually using the same or substantially similar data sets across their workstream? Maybe you could explain that. Yeah, it's important because the speed at which applications are being built, insights are being driven is requiring that there is a lot more agility and ability to self-service into the data that you need. Traditional challenges that we see is if you think about preparing to build an application or preparing to build an AI model, building it, deploying it and managing it. The majority of the time, 80% of the time it's built upfront, preparing the data, talking to IT, trying to figure out what data you need, asking for it, waiting for two weeks to two months to try to get access to that data. Getting it and they're realizing, oh, I got the wrong data, I need to supplement that or I need to do another iteration of the model going back to try to get more data. And that's the area that application developers and data scientists don't necessarily want to be spending their time on. And so we're trying to shrink that timeframe. And how do we shrink that is by providing business users or line of business users, data scientists, application developers with the individuals that are actually going to be using the data to provide their own access to it, right? To be able to get that snapshot, that point of time access to that point of production data to be able to then infuse it into their development process, their testing process or the analytic development process as well. Where do traditional tooling, where does traditional tooling fit in this sort of new world? Because, yeah, I remember when Hadoop came out, it was like, oh, Enterprise Data Warehouse is dead. And then you ask customers like, what's one of the most important things that you're doing in your big data pipeline? And they'd say, oh yeah, we need our EDW. So I could now collect more data for lower cost, keep it long and all that stuff. But the traditional EDW was still critical. But what you would just describe it, building a cube, you guys own Cognos, obviously, that's one of the biggest acquisitions that IBM ever made. But it's a critical component. You talk about data quality, integration, those things. It's all a puzzle that fits together in this larger mosaic. Can you help us understand that a little bit? Sure, and well, one of the fundamental things to understand is you have to know what you have, right? And the data catalog is a critical component of that data strategy. Understanding where your enterprise assets sit. They could be structured information, they may be unstructured information sitting in file repositories or emails, for example. But understanding what you have, understanding how it's been touched, how it's been used, understanding the requirements and limitations around that data, understanding who are the owners of that data. So building that catalog view of your overall enterprise assets, that's the fundamental starting point from a governance standpoint. And then from there, you can allow access to individuals that are interested in understanding and leveraging the data assets that you may have in one pool here. The challenge is data exists across enterprise everywhere, right? The silos that may have rose in one particular department that then gets merged in with another department and then you have two organizations that may not even know what the other individual has. So the challenge is to try to break down those silos, get clarity of the visibility around what assets you have so that individuals can then leverage that data for whatever uses they may have, whether it be development or testing or analytics. So if I could generalize the problem, too much data, not enough value, and I'll talk about value in terms of things that you guys do that I'm inferring, risk reduction, speed to insights, and then ultimately lowering cost or increasing revenue. That's kind of what it's all about. Yeah, we talk about business outcomes in terms of increased revenue, decreased costs or reduced risk, right? In terms of governance, those are the three things that you want to unlock for your customers. And you don't think about governance and creating new revenue streams. You generally don't think about it in terms of reducing costs, but you do think about it oftentimes and in terms of reducing your risk profile and compliance. But the ability to actually know your data, build that trust, and then use that data really does open up different opportunities to actually build new applications, new systems of engagement, new systems of record, new applications around analytics and AI that will unlock those different ways that we can market to customers, sell to customers, engage our own employees as well. Yeah, so the initial entry into the budget, if you will, is around that risk reduction, right? People understand that I got all this data and I need to make sure that I'm managing according to the edicts of my organization.  Are you really seeing value beyond that risk reduction? I mean it's been nirvana in the compliance and governance world is not just compliance and governance and avoiding fees and getting slapped on the wrist or even something worse, but we can actually through the state of quality initiative and integration, et cetera, drive other value. You actually seeing that? Yes, we are actually. Particularly last year with the whole onslaught of GDPR in the European Union and the implications of GDPR here in the US or other parts of the world, really was a pervasive topic. And a lot of what we were talking about was specifically that, compliance, make sure you stay on the right side of the regulation. But at the same time, investing in that data or information architecture, investing in the governance program, actually allowed our customers to understand the different components that are touching the individual. Right, because it's all about individual rights and individual privacy. So understanding what they're buying, understanding what information we're collecting on them, understanding what permissions and consent that we have to leverage their information, really allowed our customers actually to leverage that information in for a different purpose outside of the whole compliance mindset because compliance is a difficult nut to crack. There's requirements around it, but at the same time, there are best effort requirements around that as well. So the driver for us is not necessarily just about compliance, but it's about what more can you do with that governed data that you already have because you have to meet those compliance requirements anyway to be able to flip the screen and talk about business value, business impact, revenue, and that type of thing. So you're only about, what, six months in? Correct, part of the partnership, yes. All right, so it's early days, but how's it going and what can we expect going forward? Going great. We have a terrific partnership with Actifio. Actifio Virtual, or the IBM Virtual Data Pipeline offering is part of our broader portfolio within Unified Governance and it fits nicely to build out some of the test data management capabilities that we've already had. Often the portfolio is part of our capability set and it's really been focused around test data management, building synthetic data, orchestrating test data management as well. And the Virtual Data Pipeline offering actually is a nice complement to that to build out a pretty robust portfolio now. All right, Charlie, well, hey, thanks very much for coming on theCUBE. How's the event? It's been terrific. It's been terrific. It's amazing to be surrounded by so many people that are excited about data. You don't get that everywhere. Hey, we're always excited about data in theCUBE. Charlie, thanks so much for coming on theCUBE. All right, keep it right there. We'll be back with our next guest. 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