Thank you again and what I'm going to do I'm going to actually ask the guests of honor to come up and I'm going to call you one up one at a time and have you sit up here in our panel so that we can all start asking questions. So I'm going to ask Kevin Colbert to come up please. On behalf of the KCA NYU Wild Cornel and all the organizations that are here we're very thankful for you to actually you know volunteer and and agree to come up and speak in front of everyone. It's very nerve-wracking to do so. Can also ask Eric Johnson. And if the spouses or family members want to sit in the front row just in case we have questions for you, feel free to go ahead and do that. Whitey, sorry, Whitey, Ms. Holly, Dan Resolesco.  I can talk about two of the panelists that are actually three of the panels that are up here today. I'll just briefly introduce them and then we can go ahead and start asking questions everyone else can talk about their stories as well. So I'm going to start off with her broth. He's actually in the audience but his daughter Ellen and son-in-law Lee are up here. Dr. Roth is a retired internist who I met in 2013. So being an excellent internist as he was and still is, he's retired now. He's self-palcated. He felt his own tumor in his abdomen. And this led to getting ultrasounds and cascans and eventually biopsies of a kidney tumor that was not recyclable. So the unable, certain were unable to remove this. He was found to have a clear cell kidney cancer and I, when I met him, I started him on low-trend at his opinion in May of 2013 and he's been on a low dose of this medication ever since with a stable disease and his kid, his daughter and son-in-law are here and we'll talk about it today. The other person I can talk a little bit about is Dan. I'm sorry there. So he initially presented in 2010 with blood of urine. At the time he had a, you know, an infractomy meaning they took the kidney out. He did present at the time with small little lung nodules and lymph nodes that were suspicious for metastatic disease. And when I met him in January of 2011, I talked to him about clinical trials and and he was very interested in enrolled in clinical trials. He's been on multiple clinical trials and is currently on his seventh drug. He's been on a low-trend as well. Now since, I have to, since May of 2012, he's been on low-trend with a stable disease. And what I'm going to do is ask the other speakers to go ahead and just introduce yourself and talk about your, your, how you were diagnosed with kidney cancer. Just the initial presentation Hi, my name is Kevin Colbert. I was diagnosed in 2008 with blood in the urine and pain in my abdomen. Went to the hospital and found that I had tumor on my left kidney. I want to sympathize with Sarah. I also had a full open removal and can no longer wear my bikinis either. And went to interview a few oncologists after I had my kidney removed and currently a patient of Dr. Alters. I, I felt with Dr. Alters as he has already explained, he really takes the patient first and treats the disease after that, which a couple of oncologists I met didn't leave me with that same impression. And he impressed me a lot and that's why I chose him. That's why I'm college. We watched it for a while and then in 2009 we saw an opportunity. It was a short period that we watched. And then in 2009, early in 2009, he started IL2. I went with, I believe it was three cycles, three cycles, six weeks in the hospital from January 2009 to June of 2000. And it did help. It reduced, it didn't give me complete cure, but it did reduce many of my tumors down to a more manageable size. And from that point, we really watched it for growth and what it was going to do. It gave us a period of time where we could not do anything and just watch to see what it was going to respond with. As we all occurred, the IL2 was hazing your system for a period of time, so it was still working, even though I wasn't going through the treatments anymore. And I do also agree with him as far as going through the IL2. It really equated more to a small California earthquake as opposed to flu-like symptoms.  California earthquake? Yeah, I could see that. So it gave us a period of time to watch it and I'm not exactly sure when we went on to Souten. We tried Souten first. And Souten brought its own bag of gifts, let's say. It worked for a period of time. And then we discovered a tumor in my left, a greater trochanter, which we had it addressed. So we got a lot of Souten, took care of the tumor on the greater trochanter, which took a while to recover from. And then in September of 2013, Dr. Ulter and Shawna, my nurse, we decided to go on to a clinical trial using the Lantrissat and in Leita as the drug of choice. And I've been on that since September of 2013. I don't know how many shots I've gotten now. 22. And thank God it's been working. It's keeping the tumors in check. Sometimes you see a little growth, as we've been explaining, a little growth is good. I mean, it's not good, but as Dr. Ulter said, the patient always wants to see no growth or shrinkage. And obviously, when I hear a little growth, I say, you know, that's not good, but it's under control. I'm able to function. I could work, do whatever I need to do. I take care of my 93-year-old mother who's broken her hip and her back in two places. So it's a full plate, but going through the regimen every three weeks for blood tests, every six weeks for scans is a little bit more on my plate. But as long as it's working, it's working. So that's where we stand right now. Okay, so I must be the lucky wind in the audience here. On the scale of things, I've heard a couple of things. First of all, so I haven't happened to be a person who has the cancer, but my wife and I are a patient. It's been sort of a team thing since the very beginning that this came up. And another thing that I heard this morning, this being the first of the things that I've gone through like this, is that you never really have a direct path to find out. It turns out we're both dedicated blood donors, or at least we were. And I got to this point in about 2009, where I kept getting rejected below hemoglobin.  So I started plotting from those little blue sheets they give you when you go and try and get many physicals. What hemoglobin was doing in 2008 to 2010, it was dropping dramatically. And so I said, this is no good. I went to my GP. My GP was, okay, here, take some iron. I'm like, no, wait a minute.  And I got to this point that was okay.  So he's been our stalwart companion through this whole thing. And it turns out it took a while to figure this out. By the time I went to Dr. Ostrom in April or May of 2010, sooner or later went through a series of things where they did an ultrasound that didn't look good. They did a CT scan. It was obvious there was something not good. And so my right kidney was more or less completely blown out. No blood in the ear. None of the other kinds of clinical presentations that people normally would see. It was just this sort of chance discovery that the hemoglobin had gone. And it was anemic and I felt lousy. So that's fine. November 2010, they take out the kidney. I was just looking it up. I can't remember these things. It was stage three from grade two, if that means something to anybody. And they thought that the margins, the surgeon thought that it was great that he got everything right up to the vein in order to take it out. He thought it was great. And they looked at it and it turned out he had cancer at the margin. So they put me on SUTEMP for a little under two years. And in the monitoring things that they were doing, something showed up in the left room for higher. And so it's kind of weird. It's not a place you can easily get to. But again, they got clever and they said, Oh, well, you can do a bronchoscopy and go in and check it and turn it up. It's clear cell renal. So then Stanley says, Oh, I have a friend, Chan Toucher. Why don't you go see her? So we wound up doing interleukin. I did just one, one week, a week off and another week. That's all that I've done. And knocked it down dramatically. And so I get monitored and it keeps watching and it may be creeping back a little bit. At one point, we looked at actually having that surgically removed. It's not a nice place to do it. We wound up leaving it there thinking that, Okay, we need to pee. This is the canary in the coma and you can watch it and you can see what's happened. It doesn't seem to do anything really bad. The net bad effect that I've had so far from all of this stuff is that the thyroid shut down. So I did a little thyroxin. But otherwise, I'm the luckiest guy in the place it sounds like.  Yes, it's. So once again, I feel first of all, I have to apologize for my Romanian English. I'll try to make it the best as I could. I want to thank Dr. Molina, my wife and the rest of the family.  She still owe me a lot of money from all the pictures that she took. And also, I'm very glad that I'm not the only patient that I'm over here when she called me a few days ago. I said, Gee, if she calls me that means that I'm the only guy alive. Thanks God is not the case. And I'm very happy about that. I don't want to get all the details. Most of it is like a common denomination. This is like denominator is like all of us. What what hurts is that I'm also work not as much as I used to. I work as a medical interpreter. And from this perspective, it's pretty interesting. Of course, I don't want to get all that stuff. And I don't want to make it too long. Like it change everything. The vision of life, the approach is your family, the scary part that you're not going to be able to provide the rest of the family and so on. As a medical interpreter, it's even worse. I always like to do this job because I care for people. It's not about the money. Now, as I said, it's a different approach. And I'm going to talk just one minute about it because even as it's not great, and I'm not allowed to do it, like, technically as my job talking about, I'm trying to encourage the patients and even that I'm a pretty shy person that I don't want to give myself as an example, as a living example. I always try to encourage them I'll show the way I still deal with this. God, then disease after four years is not a happiness. And then I don't want to give them like false hopes. But at least I can tell them that here I am. I lost some hair. I lost some some pounds, which was great, actually. Unfortunately, but after a few unfortunate trials, unfortunate for me, because it was like, serious side of things that that diarrhea that was mentioned earlier is terrible. And you really don't know what to do. No matter what you go for golfing. And you go for interpreting. I did a few times for you. Don't remember me. It was great experience. It was very nice. I even forgot the morning I had to interpret a few times. And you got to you got to stuff yourself with wasn't anymore. I don't know the medical name because it's pretty embarrassing in the middle of it to to have yourself excused about the best. Now, I'm pretty stable. As you can see, I can function. I walk. I, I can enjoy the company of my wife and my two daughters, but bless them, but bless you all here. The vote that works. Practical is like I don't even know. I guess for me, it's even easier that all my friends, my friends having to deal with the with the with diabetes. Because I don't feel I actually it was a lot of side effects. I had to take a lot of medication. Gradually, I took them off of course. It wasn't me that that just to stop them. Because I worked in the license. I was in pretty good shape. So I was pretty hit by this disease because all of a sudden was the thyroid. It was the cholesterol. It was high blood pressure things that I never had to care and to deal with before being in working in the eyes is a pretty strict annual checkup. You don't you don't pass that one.  So I think that I was in a pretty good shape. And all of a sudden it was 100 degrees opposite approach of all this. So that's why again, I'm sorry if I talk for too long. Again, I want to thank my doctor. What really works?  Thanks again for calling me today. God bless you all. Thanks again. My name. Thank you. Stay here. Yeah, I'm humbled to be here. I'm a little nervous. I'm very emotional. So I'll try to keep that in check. It started out where I had a cough for almost a year and slowly but surely I couldn't keep cool down. And a friend of mine who's also my doctor told me to get to the emergency room. Otherwise, I have to wait a month or whatever to go up. And I get diagnosed to whatever this was. I was it was Christmas day. I was at my sister's house. And I left because I didn't feel well. And I found myself watching television all alone in my apartment. So I knew something was wrong. So that's the emergency room. Got a cat scan the next day, the doctor comes in, you got two words this big, we're gonna take it out, blah, blah, blah. So make a long story short. They had a company like a fish. They got me out of scar like this. They took the kidney out, complete nephrectomy, real cell and swing. Thought they got it all part of the miracle that it was so advanced.  But it got worse. They said that it's spread to my lungs. The other thing was that I had the distinction to my belly, which still hasn't gone down. I don't understand. So that was my big joke. So my brother got online. This is 15 years ago. So I'm cancer free 14 years or so. My brother went online and found someone else who had kidney cancer because there wasn't a lot known. And he knew Dr. Dutcher. I was in California. And we had gone to a few other places. One very notable hospital kind of gave me a time limit and said they were making me comfortable. So we met Dr. Dutcher and she gave us some options and he plant the paradigm. The rest is history. It had spread to my lungs and it was like, pretty advanced. The nodules, there were many nodules. So I did interleuk until I tried I think the first week was maybe three days and I couldn't take to the high dose. So I went home came back a week later. We did the low dose. And I really got a lot of reaction from that also. And her staff, they were fantastic. And I took a week off came back. And the thing about it was, like they say, a really bad flu. I really reacted terribly to it. My blood pressure would go down. I blacked out a few times. I was on the toilet one time I just fell down. And four or five nurses getting me up. I don't want to get too graphic, but I was thrown up in bed and you can poop in at the same time. But come Friday, when I was done with it, I couldn't wait to get out of there Saturday morning. I run home and I can coach a little baseball in the sun with an umbrella. And that was my my sake and grace. But then I did another week. So that was like two and a half weeks of the cycle. And then I kept taking catch games and they were going down down down. So then it's about three two years later after I'm a cancer free. I'm a horse ride. And I had a bad horse and you're working with them on the ground. And I got kicked in the jaw. And I was in an induced coma for 11 days. This is a long reconstructed surgery. So I'm here for a reason. So whatever that is, maybe it's here to talk to you. So I love you, Dr. Helen and me. Hi. As Dr. Molina said, my father here on behalf of my dad, who's here, my dad's a retired physician. So you can imagine what that brings to the process. And he was about a year or two years ago down in Florida. And he took a tumble and while he was at the time, and while he was on the floor, because he has bad hips from other stuff, and trying to get to the phone, he decided to examine himself to see if he broke any ribs. That was where his head was. And he felt a mass. And it was large enough at that point that he thought it was his liver. So he did what any doctor probably would do. He didn't tell anybody. A few months or so later, he's laughing. They were planning on moving up to New York anyway, because we wanted to be closer to them. And he comes up. And I had scheduled an appointment with our intern have a baseline. And as I'm driving him to the internist, he says to me, there's something I need to tell you. When I fell, which I didn't tell you, I felt a mass in my abdomen. And I think it's my liver. And if it's my liver, I just want you to know I've had a good life and we're not doing anything about it. I don't even have a chance to tip the doctor off who we're friendly with. So send him into the doctor and I come with him to sit in the doctor's wonderful job there. They had never met before. And they were hugging and kissing by the end of the appointment. And he says to my father, her words on your mind and he shared with him, I think I have a mass and I think it's my liver. And he repeats that he says, Well, we don't know what's your liver. Let's find it together. And we will come up with a course of action. He comes out of the exam room. He does have a mass. We don't know it's his liver. It could be. Let's send him for some tests. So send him for a sonogram.  He says good news. It's not in the liver. He said the other news is in your kidney. So let's take this one step at a time. And he picked up the phone and he called Memorial and we went over there and we first saw a surgeon and we all agreed he was not a candidate for a surgery. And he had had a CAT scan and we saw it had metastasized not majorly a couple of nodules in the lungs, a little bit of encroachment on the liver, but pretty much, you know, enough that he was not a candidate for surgery. And then, yes, luck would have it. We were referred to that angel standing over there, Dr. Molina. And it's been it'll be two years in May. He went on the Votrion. It's a low dose and everything has been stable. We go for CAT scans every 12 to 16 weeks. My husband's here because it's the three of us are the team. We moved my parents to about a couple of miles from us. They live in a senior, a senior living apartment. And we, you know, we take him to all his appointments. We have a very dear friend. We both work in the city and live outside in Westchester. When I spoke to Dr. Molina, I said, if I spoke to families, I would say we're not the type of people who like to ask for help. We have a very, very dear friend who picks my dad up and looks forward to it to pick him up at his apartment up in Westchester, drives him down to the hospital. We come from our offices and meet him there to every single appointment. And my father looks forward to them because he looks forward to his visits with Dr. Molina.  It's although obviously there is a clinical component, but she comes into the room and she chats and they talk, he tells stories, they talk about medical things. They, we are not physicians. And, you know, half of the things we don't know what they're talking about. And they, he really enjoys those visits. So when Dr. Molina called us and she said, you know, we think you'd like to come and we asked my dad, he said, well, I won't speak, but if Dr. Molina wants us to do something, we're going to come and do it.  You know, I'm done.  It's over. And, you know, first year, all of the holidays, we said, okay, we're gonna have the whole family has to be together for every holiday. We're now on round two of the holidays.  And it's all, it's all good. So, thank you. I'd like to open it up to questions that the audience may have. I would like to say that I've never had any, any signs of the kidney cancer. I didn't have any urine, blood in my urine. I didn't have any pain. I just started with a cough. I guess the kidneys, you know, pushed up and was stopping me from keeping food down, double by double, to get worse and worse to the point where I was eating and throwing up for 60 minutes. It was the same with me. I, I didn't want to make it go wrong. And I wanted to make it different. That's the only reason that I didn't get older. But how are you, how do you call it? That was my, my case. Instead of diagnosing. Diagnosing in 2010. But I never had a problem. I just studied it like something that my regular doctor, which got blessed, he's a good doctor. Even though I know, I know he got, he got some kind of cancer also. He told me that then, I guess I just think that it's a common, common cold or something. Let, let, let's try some antibiotics. We, we tried. It didn't work. He sent me to a urologist. I want to mention his name because he told me that he's not the number of month, but the weeks that I have to live. He's a pretty respectable doctor. He's no 70 years old. I, I, again, I don't want to mention his name. He's none of my business about that. But it just, I called it because I wasn't able to use it. It was something like, like, like really block something solid blood.  And then I, I, I couldn't use it. One, two, three days after that, like I mentioned before, he did something that is that it is an ultrasound that we have a mass in your kidney. I, I, you need to be a weapon with a small category MSK and Dr. Corne. I was the surgeon that, that was into. So it's also that, that, that still surprises me that it is no way to cash us. At least for provider, not something, somebody that's a pro, you don't have a scan, you don't have like, even if we're the blood, the blood, the blood load, it doesn't come out always. As far as I know. So it's got to be a coincidence or something which is said. That's what I wanted to say. So, oh, sorry. I have a question. What was a medication to say that now we weren't cancer-free, so we don't have anything as no nodules? What was a medication and the treatment that you followed? Dr. Tutcher could speak to that. We got, we got high, I think you looked at two. One week and low dose in terms of two to the second week. And you have the immunotherapy. By the way, you don't want to ask the go blood. I think personally speaking, when you first get diagnosed is to go around and interview various oncologists and find the one that you're most comfortable with who agrees with your way of thinking. Because I, I saw four and I got almost four different types of opinions. And you have to go shopping and get what you feel is what you're thinking is the way to cure this or the way to cope with it. And once you find that person that agrees with you, as far as your way of going through treatment, that's the one that stick with. And I have total confidence in Dr. Alter. I think he's fantastic. And I follow every bit of advice he gives me as far as how to treat both the cancer and to continue living as best as you possibly can. They're on your fantasy team. So how do you cope? How does everyone cope with this disease? How do your families cope? Well, personally speaking, I mean, you have good days and you have bad days. I mean, it's it's the fatigue is part of the medication. And you deal with it. There are days when I come home from work and I have four or five things I want to do. And I sit on the recliner and those four or five things don't get done because I just don't feel like getting up and doing. But then there's other days that I feel fine. And I can function and do the things I need to do around the house, either to help my mother or to just do the basic, you know, only things that you need to do. And I went out play golf actually for the first time recently, which was refreshing since I had my leg operated on.  And as long as you're physically able to do stuff, you just go out and do it and do the best you can. Live your life. For me, it works. There's one day I try to enjoy it every day. If there are some things exactly, because the fatigue is something that it's inevitable. But I don't have a tendency of blaming it on my age or the fact that I'm not young anymore. And not on the easy. But there are like things I wish to do and I can't. And I say, well, I'm not my plan anymore. I'm going to walk my car, guess what happened now or not two hours. But one day at a time. I don't know. At least for me, it works. I think early on, you kind of, you kind of ask yourself, why does this happen to me? Because I wasn't a drinker. I mean, I go out for a few drinks and stuff like that. But I wasn't out drinking a lot of alcohol or anything like that. I was a smoker. I considered myself in fairly decent shape. I wasn't in great shape, but I was, you know, I was working out and then taking care of myself for the most part. And then the next day it changed.  I worked that day Friday. It was a slow day. I took a half the day, played nine holes of golf, went home, read the paper, watched on TV, everything was normal. When the bed had great night's sleep. And the next morning, it was different. I just woke up and started to eat blood. And it's kind of like, wow, what happened? It was like yesterday, everything was fine. So, and I'm sure a lot of people go through that same thing. I mean, I know different than probably anybody else. But it's really, it's an eye-opener for sure. I kind of wanted to be a little bit different in the way that we treated it, because it was something, okay, now we have a problem. I mean, let's not worry about this, that we got this problem. So we spent a lot of time trying to research what our options were and how to deal with it, and where the right way is to turn and do that. So in some respects, the fact that it sort of swung our focus on dealing with the disease and whatever problems that would come with that, catch you from getting too worried. It sounds strange, but, but okay, now, this is a problem to solve. I've got to deal with this. So we were focused on that. And so, certainly, we have a much higher appreciation for the time we've had in Sierra Faro already. And in some respects, it's sort of different, because now you have the situation where, okay, you're just kind of watching it, and you know that it's a possibility that you can come back anytime, which kind of makes you appreciate that you have that much more. So the fact that we're sort of a partner between dealing with it all the time is hugely important, right? If I was doing it by myself, we don't all hit the bottom at the same time, right? So we sort of manage each other. Any other questions? I had a question just about any lifestyle changes or in terms of your diet or exercise. I mean, I know you said that you were taking pretty good care of yourself before. Is there any advice that you might have, you know, as you're managing the disease for any kind of changes or things to watch out for? I'm always thinking of like, you know, should I just find all organic, you know, things that are things that I could be doing to enhance the health and the immune system.   I'm on the right side of the grass and I'm pretty happy about that.  No diet changes at all. If there's anything unusual, I'll, I'll actually check with Dr. Walter or Moisana and see, you know, if they wouldn't recommend it, especially being on a phase two trial, I don't want to screw that up by doing something that might affect that.  I wouldn't change anything.  I mean, if you get this, you've already been through enough. Why deny yourself something you enjoy doing or eating? Enjoy it. Anybody else? Well, I hope that you all have learned as much as I have. Sometimes I think when I come to these that, you know, I've heard it all and I go to a lot of these and I go to the medical symposiums and whatever, but there is never a time when I don't learn from the doctors who are presenting from the patients who are presenting from the patients I talked to and in the hallway. Never learning is a never ending process and is particularly with kidney cancer.  You'll find it. Many of you probably already read it at one point or another. I try to remind myself to read it every once in a while and it's we have kidney cancer. I want to emphasize the we right now because in listening to all of you talk, I'm reminded that it's a team. It's you're not just treating someone's cancer, you're treating the family's cancer. And that just came out loud and clear with the patient panel and I want to thank you. As I mentioned before, I myself had kidney cancer. I was diagnosed in 99 and my husband had kidney cancer. We met after our initial kidney cancers. But in some respects, I'm lucky because I've been on both sides of the bed. I've been the patient and I've been the caregiver. And I want to say to all you caregivers up here, out there, I'd rather be in the bed. It's much easier to internalize your emotions when it's you when it's someone you love and you feel helpless. That's the hardest thing. It really, really is hard. I know I'm not diminishing what patients go through. You know, I don't wish this on anyone, but watching, working with my husband on this, I'd rather it was me in the bed and not him. That being said, I don't want to these stories have been so inspirational. I thank each and every one of you as difficult as some of as it is for some of you to talk about your personal things. Why? You did a great job. All of you did a really, really good job and it really brings home, really brings home that you can't give up. And there's hope.  But one of the questions was about, you know, what are you eating? Should you change your diet, etc. I think as a patient, a cancer patient, sometimes people approach you who've never had cancer and they say, well, you know, why did you get it? Obviously, we don't know why. And the thing to remember is, it's not anything that you did that caused your kidney cancer. As Jan said, you know, it's in your body, but it's not you. You didn't do anything. So you can't blame yourself. You can't blame pretty much anything else, except maybe the environment for triggering the start of the growth, if you will. I guess, are there any other questions for our patient panel here? Paula? Not a question, just a comment. I would like to thank my fellow survivors for taking the time to share your stories with us. I, as you know, volunteer for the Association, I would encourage everyone in this room, patients and caregivers, you know, to become actively involved and engage with the association. And doctors. Oh, we're getting our name there in a minute.  And as Sarah said, it's a team effort. We all need to be in this and do this together. Quick story I want to share with you. I was a patient rep at the Astell meeting last year. And I was on the shuttle bus. Oh, thank you. I was on the shuttle bus going from a hotel to the convention center seated next to this guy. I didn't know him. He didn't know me. My badge identified me as a patient advocate and the survivor. So he's doing his business. I'm doing my business on the bus and we get to the convention center. We're getting off. And he turned he tapped me on the arm and he said, I just want to thank you for what you're doing. He said, it's because of people like you that we do what we do. And I was so touched by that. Oftentimes we just say, Oh, what's the doctor's job? He's supposed to do that. Or she's supposed to do that. No, they really put a lot of time and effort and energy into what they do because they care about us. You know, the bottom line certainly is not dollars and cents. The bottom line is our care and our quality of life. Everyone in this room is a survivor.  I think it's just an automatic, you know, gesture that you go into fight mode. I remember Jan telling a story about one of her patients several years ago when he was diagnosed with kidney cancer. He heard that and he said, Oh, well, any day now it's going to curl up and die. And to my knowledge he's still with us. So it's just a natural thing. Your body just goes into fight mode. So I encourage all of you to continue fighting, continue to be engaged with us and continue to be engaged with each other. That's very important. Nobody understands kidney cancer patients better than a fellow kidney cancer patient. Mary talks about her breast. Jack talks about his colon. Yeah, that's all fine, well and good. We can't have that overall sympathy for cancer. But when it comes to kidney cancer, we are the brother and sisterhood and we are the glue that we keep each other together. And I would encourage you to please stay together, stay engaged. And certainly look forward to seeing you guys for many, many more years. Thank you, Paula. Not much more to say. On your schedule it says that Dr. Wang is going to do the closing remarks. But pretty much Paula and I just did the closing remarks. He had to leave. There are a couple of housekeeping things. There's an evaluation form that will be at the back door. I want to encourage everyone to fill that out. And Dr. Molina wanted to talk about a sparker. So I'm actually going to be starting the kidney cancer support group in collaboration with the Kidney Cancer Association. And our first meeting is going to take place on February 7. Well, if you left your emails here, we can email you the information. It'll be at Laughorn Medical College my new institution now. And the first speaker is Shane Robinson. She's actually a medical oncology nutritionist. That's going to come and talk about nutrition and kidney cancer. So I'll be leading these groups every other month. The first one again is February 7. It's at 10 a.m. at Laughorn now and we'll give you the information via email. Thank you. Thank you again, Dr. Molina. And thank you to all of you at the back door, Sarah, Dr. Keegan, and I, Sarah, Eric, who is here. I'd like to thank NYU for hosting us. It's a great facility. It's fantastic. Clean up after yourselves as you're leaving. And of course, thank you to the Kidney Cancer Association. Thank you all. And one more thing. As I heard one of the patients. Oops. One of the patients's wife said, eat the brownies first.


And it's a shocking day for the entertainment industry in Nigeria with news of the death of singer or larouageo foshashi, better known as Sam Sultan. He died at 44 after suffering from angioeminoblastic t-cell lymphoma, a rare form of peripheral lymphoma. Tributes have been pouring in from everyday Nigerians and South Sultan's colleagues in the entertainment industry.  Why do the good ones always die young? End of quote. An actor Richard Moffat-Damigio also posted, quote, Words would never be enough, my brother, love you man. End of quote. Other music managers, record label owners, actors and musicians have been paying their tributes, including this post from foremost music entrepreneur and lawmaker, Dio Adeneye, also known as D1, quote, Just can't believe that you are gone, because you did our production with us in April. Rest in power, my brother, end of quote. Good evening, Mr. Adeneye. How are you? I'm fine. How are you today? Good evening. And everybody should know why by now. We saw about a great loss today. Yes, Sam Sultan, a very talented man, humble as many who knew him have described him. How closely did you work with him? Mr. Malari, what do you have to say about Sam Sultan to most of us? He was very close to us in the Kenyan music family. He was a member of the Kenyan music family, having released two albums on the Kenyan music as well, several collaborations with some of our other artists. As a matter of fact, we just did a, how do I say, a documentary which we just aired in April this year, which featured himself, Too Faced and Daddy Shoky, produced by our brothers, that AWA. So he was a very close member of the family. We did a lot of calls together along Too Faced. He was just, and of course his brother, Babadi, was also a member of the Kenyan music family. And it's a big, big, big loss, not just for us in the Kenyan music family, but for Nigerians as a whole. This was just one young, talented songwriter, just a philanthropist, philosopher, an actor. He was just multifaceted. He was just, and to be gone at 44, it's a very, very, very big loss, not just to the industry, but to Nigeria as a whole. Well, just, it's incidental because on the third of this month, that's eight days ago, his last message on Instagram was, celebrate me. I quote, celebrate me now. We are dear life. A song by Pater Anken, which he posted that day, the third of July. And today, 11, he's no more. How did I hit you when you heard that he had died? Do you feel he was celebrated as he should have been considering how talented he was? You know, in my post I wrote, since the good ones always live early, the good ones die young, just a few, not even quite after a month when we lost one of the movers in the industry, Obama, who worked very closely with David O. Earlier this year, we lost another artist, last year we lost numerous artists. I don't know what is going on, but out of time in his 44 years on Earth, contributed immensely, immensely to the Nigerian music industry.  Tell us more about his contributions. Tell us more about his contributions, especially for young music lovers who may not know much about this man you're talking about, Sal Sultan. For those who are new, or those who don't know, Sal Sultan was one of those who played the music trail, along with style plus. Remember his songs like Jag Badan, Jantis, Bodman? I mean, he had so many. You know, the relevant thing about him is that his songs were not just entertaining, they were educational. You know, he sang, like, when we had the proliferation of our young people trying to cross into Europe, through Libya and through illegal means, and he kept singing songs to say, look, no matter where you go, don't forget your home.  You know, so his message is always reverberated. He was always saying about positive things, you know, about math. Teaching students how we used to do math and English in those days that we were taught to do math and English and our classroom setting was... So he didn't just think about just any nonsense about drugs or alcohol. He sang songs that we could relate to, songs that we could learn from. And as I said earlier, he was one of the early ones that helped to open what the young ones are now enjoying, the David Dawes and the Whiskies, you know, are enjoying now. It's because people like Daddy Shilky, Towns of Town, Babaji, Sonita, Trilla is with Abdukarim, Rugged Ma'am, I mean, and so many others, they opened the doors that these artists are now working through to go collect the Grammy Award, to go collect the PhD Award. If people like him had not blazed that trail, we wouldn't have the Nigerian music industry we have today. So we must celebrate him, we must give him kudos. Yes, he did the very short night, but 44. But it remains a very, very relevant part of the Nigerian music industry. Oh, Mr. Dayo Adene, a music entrepreneur and lawmaker. Thank you so much for joining us to share your thoughts and experiences with the late Sam Sultan. He'll be greatly missed, no doubt. Thank you very much. May the Lord grant him eternal rest. Amen. Hello, hope you enjoyed the news. Please do subscribe to our YouTube channel and don't forget to hit the notification button so you get notified about fresh news updates.


From around the globe, it's theCUBE with digital coverage of Dell Technologies World. Digital experience brought to you by Dell Technologies. Hello everyone and welcome back to theCUBE's continuing coverage of Dell Tech World 2020. This is Dave Vellante. With me is Tom Sweet. He's the EVP and Chief Financial Officer of Dell Technologies. Tom, it's great to see you. Thanks for coming on the VirtualCube. Dave, it's always good to see you and thanks for having me. It's always good to have a conversation with you. I actually don't think, I mean, I've spent a lot of time talking to folks from Dell, but I don't think you and I have talked since the pandemic hit. So, you know, what's the macro picture?  Well, you know, it's been an interesting year, Dave, as you and I both know, right? And so we, you know, we clearly did a number of tactical actions as we worked our way through the pandemic in the early days to make sure our team members could work and we're safe. And then pivoted to making sure we could, you know, help our customers and get them up and productive from a work-from-home perspective.  What do you look like on the other end? And so we've been spending a lot of time thinking about investments. Where do we put capital to work to position the organization for success post COVID, whenever that might be, by the way. And so that's been the focus in, you know, really spending a lot of time on investment areas. The whole macro dynamic has been interesting as you know, you know, we went through this huge trough in Q2 in terms of GDP and global GDP. You know, we're working our way out of that at a macro level. It's very interesting as you go across the globe and look at the various countries and regions and how they're recovering at very different paces. You know, the business has been an interesting business in terms of what we do. And our PC business has been quite strong and we've seen a big shift with the work-from-home and the learn-from-home dynamics with strong demand from government and education. The infrastructure business, our ISG business has been a bit softer just as companies have pivoted. But all in all, I think we're working our way through it. I think the actions we took to preserve liquidity and protect the P&L early in the pandemic have paid off for us. And we're now focused on how do we position post, you know, when we get through this whole COVID dynamic? You know, we've both seen a couple of pretty severe downturns. I think about the dot-com downturn and then the financial crisis. I'm actually kind of surprised and impressed that not just our industry, but all industries have worked through this. I guess in hindsight, it shouldn't be surprising given the pace of technology. But I remember those two that I just mentioned, people were flat-footed. I remember Ed Xander joking when he was at SON. Anybody want to buy a server? And it was just, business wasn't being transacted. And that's different this time around. Industries have responded. And technology, of course, is at the heart of that. But were you surprised at all by the pace of, I don't want to say recovery, but resiliency, I guess. A little bit, to be honest, Dave. I mean, it does highlight the fact that at the heart of what most companies are doing these days is technology and how they evolve their business model, how they interact with their customers. And so clearly, if you think all the way back with our industry day, back to the early 2000s, and we had a, with a bump with the dot-com bust and people shut down IT spending, you know? And now I don't think you can really do that if you think about where you need to be from a business model perspective. So I think there's been a maturation and a recognition that technology plays a key role. But it has been surprising about how fast it's pivoted, to be honest with you, in the sense of, think of the very distinct cycles as we've come through the COVID dynamic. Big PC demand early innings. We saw some recovery in the ISG spend in Q2 in our quarter, second quarter.  And so it's the organizations across in our customer base have adjusted quite well. Clearly there's vertical implications. If you're in the airline industry or some of the hospitality, you're being a bit more cautious, right? But all in all, it's been a, it's been an interesting journey for all of us.  Obviously they were freezing IT projects. They were starting to do layoffs or freezing new hires. That's moderated based on the data that we've seen. I just published the other day that we're starting to see some, you know, slow thawing of that tight grip on IT. What are you seeing, both externally and maybe as the CFO, what are you doing internally? Well, if you talk to my CIOs, she probably gives you a different answer, David. And what I'm about to give you is, you know, I'm an extraordinarily balanced guy in my point of view, right? But, you know, look, I think externally we're seeing targeted investments happening by customers that are moving projects forward. I think there's a bit of caution. And I do think this whole evolution of how do customers want to consume IT as evolving? You know, is it a cap X spend? Is it a, is it a financing structure? Is it a, as a service and consumption model type? You know, so those, the economic models around IT are changing and evolving. But I think overall what we've seen is some level of, you know, cautious, you know, cautiousness, but yet, you know, targeted investment with our customers. And internally, quite frankly, we're continuing to invest. We have capabilities that we need to evolve. You know, we're working, we're very focused on transformational projects that enable our customers to do business with us easier. On the other hand, we're being very tight around, what do I need to do from, you know, some of those old run the business type spend and how do I streamline that while still supporting the business properly? So it's a bit of a balance right now.  A couple of questions there. One is, first of all, you know, Dell was largely a larger work from home culture than the average, the average, let's say the average I don't know, 15 to 20% of employees work from home. You're probably higher than that. And, but now we're seeing that people are expecting at least double that long-term are gonna work from home. So you were, you know, somewhat maybe more prepared than most, but then again, you have that tailwind on one side of your business, your supply chain did very well, unlike, you know, some of your competitors that we saw early in the pandemic. You know, so it seems like you've managed that pretty well, maybe your thoughts. Yeah, look, I, we do have a culture that provided flexibility. We've been on this journey for roughly 10 years about having our people have some flexibility in where they work. And so we had roughly 20, 25,000 people working remotely or in some hybrid fashion before the pandemic.    And, and so, you know, we have been fortunate to be able to have the culture that pivoted quite frankly, quite quickly, I should say, as we worked our way through this from a supply chain perspective. Look, our supply chain has done, the team has done a terrific job on sort of navigating the barriers and the challenges put up by a COVID-19 crisis. But, you know, I'll go farther back today. If you and I talked about this before, think about what's happened with our supply chain and global supply chains over the last couple of years and whether it's the US-China dynamic and how do you work your way through that, you know, and how do you ensure continuity of supply for our customers. And so that team's done a great job. You know, we have long-term relationships with many of our key suppliers, which has been helpful. And, you know, as you know, we have one of the largest, if not the largest technology buy in the industry. So it has helped us in terms of making sure we have capability and availability for our customers. Let's talk a little bit about some of the strategy and the value levers that you guys talk about. You've always hit on industry consolidation, you know, integration, de-levering. We've seen the 13D with the moves you're going to make with VMware. How have things changed there? Has the pandemic changed your thinking at all and how are you doing in terms of those, turning those knobs? You know, first it has not changed our thinking in the sense of some of those key, you know, long-term value creation activities we've been focused on and platforms we've been focused on around, hey, you know, we know that in the, where we sell, where we compete, that the industry is not a, you know, a rapidly growing industry. And so you grow organically by consolidation and share gain. And that's what we've been focused on. You couple that with the innovation engine we have with Dell technologies and including our, you know, with, we need to include in that VMware. We've got, you know, an extraordinary patent portfolio and we've got these, what we think are unique solutions and capabilities. So we're pushing hard on the innovation engine.  And we've made really good progress on that. You know, we'll pay down $5.5 billion of debt this year which will again position us closer to those investment grade like metrics. And so those platforms are, you know, pillars, if you will, of our strategy haven't changed. But in addition to that, you know, we are looking at where do you grow and how do you continue to grow at a pace perhaps at GDP, GDP plus, which is sort of where we think, you know, is the long-term framework we've got to be thinking about. So that's where you get into these adjacencies like how do you, how do you further drive in the multi-cloud hybrid cloud? How do you think about the opportunity with Telco with the 5G rollout that's happening across the globe and the investment that's going to go into that? The whole edge computing, the edge cloud is of interest to us. And so there's a number of these emerging areas that we think are pretty interesting and they're adjacent and fit nicely into what we do as a, you know, as quite frankly, that essential infrastructure company. So that's the focus we've been driving about how do we set up both continue on our core mission of consolidation, innovation and delivering as well as how do you set up some of these growth vectors as we move forward? Well, and one of the other leavers is you have, you filed a 13D, I don't know what you can share with us.  But I mean, I've said that it appears that one of the things that you're looking at is creating an equilibrium in terms of the balance sheets of both companies, keep it getting in both that investment grade. What can you tell us about what you're thinking there? Yeah, look, you know, obviously we did file a 13D in mid July which essentially said we were contemplating whether, you know, a potential spin of our 81% ownership interest out to the Dell technology shareholders. And so we're continuing to work with the VMware team on, you know, what does that look like with a couple of the fundamental principles which is, hey, you know, we have both benefited from this better together story. And so how do we keep that differentiation in some type of a long-term operating agreement or operating framework? But at the same point in time, you know, do the potentially look at a spin that unlocks value for both sets of shareholders of both companies, right? VMware gets additional flexibility from a strategic perspective. They don't have the Dell technology's balance sheet sitting on top of them. From a Dell technology's perspective, you know, we presumably as part of this would be some type of a dividend stream, but by VMware out to its shareholders we get the opportunity to accelerate our delevering story and get back closer to investment grade or right at investment grade depending upon how this all works out. So we think there's a number of really interesting value levers here, right? At the same point in time, wanting to protect what's been really good about the relationship and the way we've gone to market, the way we've innovated. And so that's the balance we're walking right now. And, you know, there's work to do as we work with VMware to see if this makes sense, can we get it done? But we're early innings and we may end up not doing anything, honestly. But I mean, that's sort of the thinking that we're working through right now. Well, it's an interesting thought exercise if nothing else. I mean, I look at it, when you combine Dell and EMC when you did the acquisition, now you became VMware's most important partner just even if it's in terms of revenue because you got a massive distribution channel. So there's that inherent value in that relationship independent of anything else. The flip side of that is VMware has been an awesome acquire of companies, inorganic, R&D if you will and some pretty cool R&D as well. So it's going to be really interesting to watch how that plays out. I think we, you know, we'll wait and see to comment. You know, we're working through it and we'll see where we end up. But, you know, you've highlighted a couple of great points. I mean, our go to market reach, you know, is extraordinary and VMware has benefited from that. We've benefited from the VMware relationship with some of their technologies we've integrated those into our combined solution.  Well, we've seen that, you know, not just the uplift of the market but clearly the speculation has caused some, you know, unlocking of value and may bring some others from the sidelines. But I wanted to ask you about, I mean, I've been talking about this automation mandate. I think there was one, certainly there was one before the pandemic and now it's even accentuated. Can you talk a little bit about how you're applying automation to your business and maybe what you're seeing with customers? How that could affect, you know, the long-term productivity of your business? Maybe new ways to work? What can you tell us there? Yeah, look, I mean, we have a pretty significant automation agenda within Dell Technologies, both from an internal perspective, as well as the automation and AI and machine learning capabilities that we're embedding into our solutions to help our customers drive their automation agendas. Internally, what we've been focused on is how do I simplify? How do I take complexity out? You know, how do I providing a richer, more interactive experience with our customers? How do I lean into service needs, service capabilities? All those areas that are ripe for automation and in my finance organization alone, I think I have over 125 automation projects going right now as we look at how we simplify. From a customer perspective, as I go out and talk to customers, they're also doing much the same thing that we're doing, which is how do they take complexity out of their process? How do they streamline? How do they drive responsiveness and customer experience at a much higher level? And so it's all walking down this pathway of process simplification, automation, which includes technology investment, obviously, which is helpful from our perspective. And so there's a agenda out there as we talk with customers in terms of and a commonality as we talk with customers. And then the other point I'd give you, Dave, is that just as you think about, as I talk to my peers out in the industry, I mean, many of us are driving automation agendas have a lot of that with focused on taking touch out, enrichment of job and capabilities or enrichment of, we got to build skill sets to drive that. So there's a big theme across the industry in this area. And I think it's going to do nothing but accelerate quite frankly, as we work our way forward. Yeah, I've talked to a bunch of customers in this topic and it seems to be sort of three paths actually. One path is there's a lot of low-hanging fruit and easy wins and, but the problem with that is a lot of times it's just paving the cow path with automation. The other is you got to do the hard work of really digging into the process. And the third that I've seen, which is kind of interesting to, which is kind of what you're looting to is you free up some of the mundane tasks and you let the people who really understand the process rethink that process and then you go into a deeper automation agenda. And that seems to, that'll turn millions into billions. That's the value I add there, Dave. I mean, it's that third kind of framework that you laid out, which is you have to do the work around process. But then again, how do I then, over time as I have the experts help us on the automation capabilities, once we've identified what are the appropriate processes or functions to be automated, how do you then pivot resource to more higher value add activity across the organization? And that's, you know, when you do that, you unlock I think a terrific value creation opportunity, which we're very focused on right now. Yeah, and I know there's always a big concern about jobs with automation, but the reality is, is if you look at the data from the US and Europe over the last couple of decades, the productivity trend is clear. It's gone down.  You got to have a combinations of people and machines. And so while there may be, you know, a short-term impact, I'm kind of an optimist. I know you are as well. No, it's, you know, obviously this is a tough time for a lot of businesses and customers as we work our way through the pandemic. And including, you know, and some have adjusted their workforce, you know, and part of it's from the economic reality, but part of it is also a skill set dynamic as a reshaping workforce. And, but I do think automation plays a key role in how do you enable skill sets to evolve and get, again, reallocated to other value creation activity. So there is, you know, unfortunately, there are probably going to be some short-term disruptions in certain areas. But on the other hand, if you think about the long-term gain and the productivity gains that we all need to drive, you know, you can't do it without automation and thinking your way through streamlining and taking complexity out of the organization. So my last question has come back to the productivity we're talking about work from home. Do you feel like you've had a bump in productivity as a result? Yeah, maybe there was some short-term disruption, but, you know, what's your data or your gut say in terms of the impact on your organization and then maybe on your customers as well, in terms of the productivity? You know, I think it's been fairly similar between us and our customers. I was concerned when we went to a work from home back in March that we were going to lose productivity. And, you know, and I thought it was going to be a productivity drain, you know, as our team members were juggling work and their family dynamics and situation is obviously in the middle that are in the early anings of this COVID crisis. What we have seen in fact is actually we've seen productivity improve pre-COVID to where we are today. And I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that we're giving our team members one flexibility on how they do their job, but we're giving them time back there and they're not commuting. There's less meetings that are consuming time, you know, and the responsiveness and the capabilities of the order such that we're moving through decisions and projects, I think at a faster pace, quite frankly. And so it's been an interesting, and I think to me, a bit of a surprising result from what we've seen. As I talk to customers and I'm the executive sponsor and a number of extraordinary, you know, very large multinational customers, it's pretty much the same response, you know, the similar experience, right? That they've seen similar results that we have. So now what you don't want this to be is that you're doing that on the backs of the team members working 15 or 16 hours a day, you've got to find the right balance. But the fact that we're giving them flexibility to jump out during the middle of the day to attend to some family members or help with their children's learning. And then they're back in maybe a little bit later during the day. I mean, I do think that we've enabled a culture that's pretty interesting that is paying dividends for us right now. Yeah, it's ironic that this hit at the beginning of 2020 is it's clear that it's going to be a different decade than it was last decade, which I guess every decade is Tom. Tom Sweet, it was great to have you on theCUBE. Thanks so much. Always a pleasure speaking with you. Always great to see you. Thanks for having me. You're welcome. And thank you for watching everybody. This is Dave Vellante. You're watching our coverage, theCUBE's coverage of Dell Tech World 2020. We're right back, right after this short break.


Had it very good plot or partial regression plot is one of the more useful diagnostics plots after regression analysis. This plot also demonstrates some features of regression analysis. So let's take a look at what partial regression plot actually does and we need some data and a regression model to do the plot. So we have the data here, the prestige data and we run a regression of prestige on income, education and share of women. And then we do the partial regression plots or added variable plots and they're shown here. So these plots we usually do them for every independent variable but these are basically three plots, three independent plots and we'll just be looking at the first one now because the other ones are done the exact same way. So this is the first added variable plot or partial regression plot. Why it's a partial regression plot will become clear in a few moments. But the idea here is that we have a line that goes with the data. So this is a scatter plot of data and then there's a regression line. So what are these data about? So these are not our observations. It is our education, conditional others, prestige, conditional on others. So understanding what these observations are, what these points here signify and what the line signifies. It's useful to understand how this is actually calculated and it is very simple to calculate. So this is an R code for my own added variable plot. The idea of added variable plot is that you first regress one of the independent variables, prestige on other independent variables, income and women here. Then we regress the dependent variable on the other independent variables except prestige. And then we take the residuals. So we take residual of this regression analysis here and then residual for this other regression analysis here. Those of you who don't understand R, the education here is the dependent variable, then income and women are the independent variables. So it's pretty simple to understand. Just a slightly different way of writing education equals beta one times income plus beta two times women plus beta zero. Then we run a regression analysis where we simply have the prestige residual as the dependent variable, the residual of education as the dependent variable and we do a scatter plot and we draw the regression line. Then the result is our parser regression plot. So this plot here is our built-in plot and this is what the R command does. So what the AD plot command does in R and this is using the built-in plot command. So we can do the exact same plot. The diagnostic plot for regression analysis just adds a grid here and it adds nicer labels for the plot and the plot axis. So this is exactly the same otherwise. So the plot here explains or tells us what is the relationship between our education and prestige when we eliminate all other variables from the model. So it tells us what is the bivariate relationship after we control for other variables. We can also view this or consider this from the Venn diagram perspective. So the Venn diagram perspective on regression analysis is that we have the dependent variable here. We have that's the prestige, then we have the independent variables. This is the education and this is the other variables. So the prestige and education are correlated. This area here is the correlation and we want to know what part of this overall correlation is unique to education and prestige and not accounted for by these other variables. So we can see that there's some overlap between all the variables and there are some unique relationships between all of these variables. And this signifies two different variables here. What we do here is that we regress prestige on these other variables. We regress education on these other variables and then we take the residual. So the residual is the part here if this is a multivariate regression model. The residual is the part that the other variables don't explain. So if we regress education on these other variables, prestige on these other variables and we take the residuals, what remains is this. So we have the residual of prestige, residual of education and now the added variable plot tells us graphically about these bivariate relationships. So importantly the correlation between these two variables is now the regression coefficient if we are using standardized estimates. So we get as the correlation tells us this regression coefficient and that's how. So here this income conditional on others is this area after we have eliminated all the variation that the other variables explain. Prestige here on the y-axis is this prestige residual after we eliminated the influence of all other variables from the data. Also another interesting feature is that the regression coefficient if we have regress prestige on education income on women and then we regress the residual from the added variable plot regression on the other residual. So we have the residual of prestige and residual of education. This regression coefficient here is exactly the same as the regression coefficient here. So you can calculate our regression coefficient this way as well. So you can take variation away one by one and then you get the final regression coefficient for the final variable would be the same as the regression coefficient if we entered all variables at the same time. So we can check that correlation is here same as here. The standard errors differ because here we assume that the effects of education income on women are known but here they are estimated so this is slightly different for that reason. So that regression coefficient is actually the slope of this line. So why is this useful? It is useful because it allows you to graphically present how one variable influences the dependent variable. And when you have a line then the slope tells you everything that you need to know about the line but when you have more complicated relationships like when you fit a log-transport dependent variable or log-transport independent variable or you fit the u-shape where you have a square of variable then you can use the same kind of plotting for those when you don't have a line but you have a curve and then you can check how that curve explains the data controlling for all other variables. So this is useful not only for diagnostics but also for interpretation and I have myself used this kind of plots in one paper that I've written for interpretation purposes. Also the idea that this regression coefficient is the same as regressing one residual and another allows you to understand what this paper by Agunis and Wandeberg are saying. So they are saying that if we have lots of controls in the model then we are basically just analyzing residuals from a model where the dependent variables is first regressed on those controls and the independent variable is regressed on those controls as well. So we are analyzing the relationship between two residuals. Whether that is problematic or not is something that I will not go into in this video. But it's technically correct to say that this is just a residual.


Hey Corbin, what did you get that orange? Do you find me appealing? Hello, welcome back to our Stupid Director's And Edits, I'm Corbin. I'm Rick. And he follows us on Instagram. Instagram. Twitter. Twitter. Kanta.  I'm Rick. He follows us on Instagram. Instagram. From our Twitter content. Exceptesti. It's show. It's show. It's show. Just show. It's show. Just show. Just show. 20 minutes the technical runtime that you have to hit or less to be considered a short film that if you surpass 20 minutes. I think anything over 30. Is that it? Actually, I think it's actually anything less than 90. It's technically a short film. Really? Because I think, let me know if I'm wrong. I think if you hit an hour and a half or an hour 20, you're at a feature. Okay. But I think a short film should usually be less than 30 minutes. I would agree with that. I mean, because what?  And it could easily be, it could still be a hundred and something pages long. Yeah. But this is called the school bag. Is that one of the teachers? And that's the nickname the kids have for her? It's school bag! With Rossica Dugo. This is a royal stag. Was this pre-Merserford Deli crime days? Let me, 2017's a yes. But not too, not too pre. Not too pre. And, hey, we've had stellar record for short films, man. Absolutely. India knows how to make short films. Here we go. See where you're going. Finish it. What's going on with you? Take off the peel. Dang, this thing got a lot of ruins. Whoa. Ha ha. Excuse me. Excuse me. Whoa. There you are. There. Your clothes will be taken by your father tomorrow. Hmm? I'm not insisting. That's not the point, son. Let's go outside. Where are you going? God, please don't look at me like that. Let's go, it's late. Obvious heinousness and evil of the occurrence is bad enough. Never ceases to amaze me. Not about this right now, that it probably was a subline in the evening news for a day. It's probably because we had three school shootings that week. I thought it said 2014. Was that the year it happened? December, weird. December of 2014. I knew Sandy Hook was December right around that time. It was only two years prior. I thought it was exactly the exact same time. It was December 2012 that Sandy Hook was. Why do we know they went in and killed 132 kids? Like, because obviously this was an army kid. Obviously there's no actual reason to ever do that. Obviously, but like, what was their motive? Was it to literally murder children like it was in Sandy Hook?  Yeah, sadly it's an occurrence for kids around the world, but especially Kieran. This is especially relatable for America. Yeah, and if there's any stupid babies that were connected to that in some way. In Peshawar, Pakistan. Whether you're currently in Pakistan or you're away from Pakistan, but if this was something you personally experienced in some way, shape, or form with your family, our condolences, that's awful. I can't even imagine. Really happy that this film was made because if this film hadn't been made, we might not have watched it and I might not have known. Like, I can't even imagine. I don't even like having my kid out of my sight. Yeah, no. Much less obviously that thing that she's gonna hold on to forever that if I didn't buy him the bag, he wouldn't have gone to school. That's the good heart of people do with stuff like that and think to themselves maybe I'm responsible because of what happened to a lot of people in 9-11 that they missed a train. Missed a flight. Missed a flight that was supposed to be that went into the one of the towers or the Pentagon or something like that. But man, how awful. But fantastic short film. Well done. Even that kid did really, obviously. He really did. Obviously, Rosika did phenomenal and they did not give her a lot of grace either. They just moment hit. I'm not cutting go. I love the moment where we're caught up with her and then the director pulls us out instantly as she gets pulled out by the knock on the door. That was brilliant. Brilliant. And yeah, that little boy did a very good job. Very good job. Very good job. Very good short film. Yep. Has been almost all of them. Yep. So let us know what's the next short film. I know there's one with Roddy Gupp. And I believe it's either directed or written by Anurad Kashia. You haven't seen it at all. I don't know why we haven't seen it yet. Seriously. Bring it on. But yeah, let us know what's the next short film we should watch down below. Look, my head's over there.


Hi friends, my name is French Vanilla Yogurt today, and I'm not alone. Oh, hello.  Today, um, we have a... What are you doing? I'm trying to find the best way to sit. How do I explain how we came to this conclusion? You were like, I'm gonna do my hair. I said, oh, it'd be fun if I did it. You said, yeah. And then I was like, it'd be really fun if I didn't know what I was doing. And then you were like, yeah. I wasn't like, yeah. I was like, oh, sure. And then you told me not to look up anything, not to read anything, and then just show up. And here I am. So in conclusion, she's going to bleach, dye, and cut my hair without any experience, and see if I can have decent hair by the end of this. It doesn't really matter because I have to quarantine anyways, because some people in here got coronavirus. No, I'm not even joking. Not naming names. Not us. Not us, but we have to quarantine again. I think we're gonna set some ground rules here. Okay. If you do something that is going to destroy my body. That's what I was gonna say. I'm stopping you. Yeah, if it's gonna hurt you in any way, let me know. I'm just gonna take these off, first of all. Another rule, I'm not allowed to tell you what to do for the most part. I'm gonna give you what I want, at least, so you get a general idea of what I'm looking for. I want to cut in color. Triple spread, no rush. Triple spread? Don't cheek-tap. I just want all of this to be shaved down a little bit. I like a square undercut. They only care about this part right now, basically, but they also care about you. No, they don't. I was showing a lot of shoulder at some point. Okay, yeah, got it. Totally. I want this part to be bleached again, because I can never reach it when I was doing it solo. I don't want my roots done. Don't worry about those. Okay. Just focus on any part that is seeming to be green and not the silver blue. Say less. Right, of course. The first thing I'm going to do is, I don't cut your hair first. No. I'm going to do the chemical stuff first. Mm-hmm. I have this bucket of blonde door multi- oh wait, dust-free power lightener. So I'm assuming this is bleach. And I know this is developer. This developer. Because I watched you do your hair the first time. Yeah, you were there. I wasn't paying attention, but I was there. Okay, so this is what we do. I need to put this in this bucket. Do I need to measure it? Oh my god. There's instructions. You said not to read them. They said, please read them. Oh. Directions. I'm supposed to wear gloves. How was your day? That's fine. I got woken up to your alarm. Mm-hmm. I feel like these are just things you have to just go in confidently and you can't stop and guess it. Put an amount recommended. Always follow instructions. This is the stupidest instructions ever. I don't think I use that. The measuring cup. I remember you not using it. You were just like, I know. Yeah, because I know. Maybe I should use it. What if we do one cup full and then... Let's do two cup fulls. I miss that smell. Oh, an update on my hair. It's not good. At least it's intact. It stops falling out each day. Okay. This is in Spanish. Directions. Lightning. By the way, new episode of the podcast is out. Yes. Please watch. Oh my god. Okay, this is really confusing. It's a lot of math. I wasn't prepared for that. I learned how to do this. Oh. A ratio of one to two. Which one's one and which one's two? Okay. Well, I put two in there. I'm going to put one of these. That's what I'm going to do. Do I mix these? I don't even know. I feel like you do. It's like baking.  That doesn't mean I don't know how to do it. I'm going to put a whole cup of this in my concoction. I'm going to go with that based off of my quick reading of instructions and inpatient. You sound like me when I said that. Oh, really? I knew you were running off on me. It's what I do. I inspire.  Oh, she's kind of thick. I'll be wrong with that. You might want to do the roots. Okay. How about this? Say less. Don't do it. Here I go. I want to have a head of hair. And go. So your day was good. Mm-hmm. You watched Princess and the Frog for the first time. Yeah. How was that for you? I love them moving. Yeah. It's up there with Luan. I know it's as good as Hercules. Completely better than Frozen. Anything made in the 2000s was better. So us. Yeah. I've done the back part. And I'm going to use this thing. Wow. The whole ecosystem. Oh, my God. You didn't say anything, which means I didn't do something wrong. Well, I'm not going to stop you for everything. If you do something terribly wrong, I'll stop you. Like, I remember I went to the hair stylist one time. I said I wanted brown highlights. This is back when I had my virgin hair in, like, sophomore year. This girl bleaches my entire head. This part, too. Really? Yeah. She started putting it on here. And I was, like, so nervous to say no, because I was, like, this is a professional. And then about halfway through, I was, like, um, I only meant this part. What'd she do? She just kept going? No, she, like, wiped it off, finally. And then it didn't, thankfully it didn't bleach.  It came out green. Ooh. Yeah. Greenish blonde. And I thought it was everything. I, like, literally convinced myself I looked good. And that explains why I had no boyfriends. Uh-huh. That's the reason.  I didn't even know. You don't know me. You don't know my life. You don't know my trials and our tribulations. It's not from something because you always start our arguments like that. Okay. I got this really yellow section. I'm gonna just kind of go through and see if I see it anymore. I'm not going very high up. I'm just going, like...  They disintegrate. I guess it is your roots. Yeah. That's what I'm referring to. Your roots are really yellow. What? Yellow. They should be black. All your hair is coming out. What do you mean what? Well, not coming out. Like strands of it are coming out. What? It's falling off? No, it's not falling off.  Is this the time to stop? Wait, when you're brushing like with that? Yeah. Is that not normal? I don't think so. Okay. I don't think they should be cut. How much? Like define how many have fallen off.  I did that. Yeah. Oh, God. I think I got all the yellow. Okay. This is a little green, but do you want me to do that area or do you want to? Yeah, go ahead. I can't wait for the cutting part. I look forward to that. I saw you, my mom studied hair cutting for like six months. And then she just stopped. Why did she stop? Her feet hurt. Oh. And I don't blame her. I'm not going to do it. Like if my feet were hurting in a job, they can buy them out. My feet hurt a lot. I got to sit at my job. That's why I want to put this skinny. I'll put this in your eye. Eat glass. Like rust. Kind of like painting, but you don't know the final outcome. What time did you start this? I don't remember. Okay. Because I supposed to keep track? Yes. Well, it looks like it's working. How does it look? Do you want me to go closer? I didn't want to get closer to your face because that's weird. You're getting mad at me. What wrong? You can't take another bleach. I didn't take anything. Your hair can't take another bleach. How much do you have left? Okay, put some of this in there. The conditioner is supposed to... One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen. Don't get rid of all my conditioner. As you were saying, the conditioner is supposed to weaken the bleaching effect. So it's just like a light hit of bleach instead. Are you nervous? Yeah, because usually it takes two tries to get the roots out. And then usually if you bleach it once, they just turn into orange roots. But I don't think we can handle it because you touched the roots, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, did that. I'm basically leaving your front as is. I think I'm done. Your hair. What? Like... Oh, thank you. Now it sits until I feel like it's ready. Okay, you tell me when. I'll tell you when. Let's check back in at ten minutes. Okay. See you in ten minutes. It's a little bit hot. It gets really hot, really fast. I like it. I like pain. Okay. I'm in pain. They just turn into orange roots. I feel like I'm on a spa. Yeah. Should it be orange? It looks orange on camera. Let's turn your head down and like towards me. A little orange. Is it a light orange or is it a dark orange? You know, I need to see it in better light. So let's just continue rinsing. Do you have a towel? No. Do you want me to grab you one? Yeah. A pink one. Isn't it orange? That's like a whole... Idiot, me right here. Okay. Well, in my defense, I was not given any instructions. Oh, I know it's not that bad. I think it was just... Hold on here. I think it was just... It's not that bad. Do you want to see it? The roots? Okay. What do you mean? I don't know what okay is. I think it's okay. Everything's fine. Is it what you wanted? I don't know. Can you take a picture? Yeah, I can take a picture. Should we just shave it? I don't know. It's up to you. If I do it again, on the orange part, not the part that's yellow right now. Because the yellow part is what you wanted. I don't want to. Oh. Shave it, shave it. I mean, I'm so sorry. But if my boyfriend breaks up with me... I cannot control that. But I would be so sorry and I will make you brownies. He won't break up with you. Is that your way of announcing it? I guess. It's not my fault. I know. It's not your fault. I'm just saying. It's like a flame. You know how like it goes from my brand to blue.  Does anyone want this? Show them, show them, show them. I feel like I can't screw this up. I need scissors. Okay, scissors. You can shave this idol to my best friend. Because my hair video failed. Don't you say, yeah, shave my head. Yeah, we shaved it. I shaved it. Yeah, no, the title is just, yeah. So, they'll just find out. Okay, don't cut too close, but like most of it. Leave like an inch. Should I put it in the toilet? Yeah. What? The toilet. You can't flush it. You can flush hair. No clog. Oh, where are you going to put this? Can I see the trash can? The trash was stuffing. I don't care if you're on your period. Well, I was bad. I'm not going to break up with you. Wait, I want to show them how brittle it is still. I know. You needed this. I think I should just go back to virgin brown hair. Black hair. Imagine you have the fill-up. Oh yeah, now is the time to do whatever you want. Yeah, I kind of want to try something. Well, I obviously don't have anything, but like. Like a lesbian and like, you know. This is a specific type of lesbian. Yeah, I feel like a lesbian. It's like in... Katy Perry cuts her hair like this and Hathaway has cut her hair like this.  This part's like all blonde. Where? Like in the back. Down to the root? Yeah, because I just dyed it. Well, we can just re-shave it again. So it's growing out. This is a good time to promote your bucket hats. Actually. Ow. Girl, you don't have to rip my hair. This is actually kind of cool. What? What if you just left it like this? I think then my boyfriend would break up with me. I'd break up with someone for this. Really? No, not for them shaving their hair. For them choosing to leave it like this. Yeah. Yeah. What if I just had a silver hair? Buzz, but all silver. Silver. That'd be kind of dope. Does it matter if I say I regret this now? You do regret it? I don't know. Well, it's too late. I don't know how I feel. Okay, well, think of it like this. Like it's already happening, so the only thing you can do is like move on. I know I'm not a crier in terms of these things. Like some people cry. Who's selling your hair? Girl. There are some people out there who'd buy it. And they just be like... Developer. Bleach. Dying hair. This looks like spaghetti. I don't know how to take that. Like you know when it's like not fully cooked yet, but it's like limp? Blessed. I think this will relieve some stress on me though. Yeah. Maybe it'll clear up my acne. I am the, what's it called? The variable? I don't know that. No, it's a science experiment. I don't know science. Damn. This is such a look for, look at you like Guy Fieri. My mic. I'm gonna put a two clip on it. You know what, I was gonna apply it to like be a hair model for this one guy in New York. Really? Not anymore. Is it on? Yeah, it's on. Should I go like this way? It doesn't matter what you do. Okay. Go ham. I've done enough.  I guess we're gonna cut my hair in like a few days. We will. What if I just take the clip off? No, I should keep the clip off. Do not go bald. That was not an option. What if I put an eyebrow slit in my hair? Will that make me cooler? No. Ew. It's definitely different, but I like it. I'm not even joking. I think that's what you want to hear right now.  This is like a transformation. What do I look like now? The guy from Haku, the... Or is it the guy from Attack on Titan? This is like art. Like an art installation. Me? Like live art. Like classical music. Yeah, and just like all in red. I think this is the lowest moment of my life. This is like a new era. I'm trying to be positive. You know what I do get to save on? Shampoo. The orange is just a little off-putting. It is. But I will shave the, oh. Whoa. The feel good? Yes. Oh my God. Okay. Usually you know what I do this. Yeah. It's not there. There's nothing there. It is okay. But this does feel amazing. Like to just do... Think about how good this will be for your skin.  And you're not going to have to touch it. And you're not going to... And never... No, no, no. When you do this. Like you bring your hand closer. Like that. Yeah, but this is the problem. Oh. I already asked my mom like, what would you do if I shaved it? She'd be like, I like it. Really? Yeah, she doesn't care. I don't think anything's a shock to them since the day I came out. Really? It's only been up from there.  I think that really did a good job on your roots. I was successful in the roots.  I look good though in the mirror. Yeah. You look more... Oh. I'm taken by that myself. For that, ladies and gentlemen. It's official. Well, I'm just going to wash up and I'll show you the final result. I look like... You look older. So old. Be kind to me. I love it. With the fluffy hat, it looks like normal.  It was just the suit part. That's so cute. I'm sorry. Sexy. It looks cute to me. I know. That's a compliment. If I say you look cute, if I say a guy looks cute, that's a lot from me. I know. Coming from a lesbian, I know. Not even a lesbian. Me. It feels so weird putting on lotion again. Like you just don't have to care. There's nothing in my way. Put on a headband. All right. So some benefits I've already noticed. Hair is already dry. It took like two seconds. Just... It's not that bad. I'm not mad at it. I think it looks fine. Obviously, I prefer my swoop more. But like, it just... A little more masculine. Maybe straight? No. Once this grows a little more, I'm going to re-buzz it. So we're just going to have buzzed hair for a little bit, guys. So, yeah.  It doesn't affect you mentally. Hey, babe. Don't be mad. Do you promise not to be mad? Oh, I know. Well, I still have a boyfriend for now. That's it. Subscribe. So, yeah. If you enjoyed giving a like, leave a comment down below. Subscribe for more videos every week. They... It's going to get more crazy, probably. I guess there's no more hair videos for a while. Buy my merch. This is one of them. And as always, I love you guys. And everything is less than three. And I'm going to clean this up.