I don't get anything wrong. Tuna? Yeah.  They get dragged out the ocean by their face and suffocate to death. I'm not sure what tuna is. Yeah, fish feel pain and suffer. So if you're eating a fish. The fish I was talking with made for fishing. Is this fish I made for fishing? Yeah. This is eggs. I don't eat eggs. Do you know why they do that? To eat them. No, no, no. They kill the males, turn them into pet food, because they don't like eggs. So when they hatch, they separate the females, they keep them, because they'll give them eggs. The males, they just put it around. I don't eat eggs or chicken. Really, what's that? I just don't like chicken. I eat meat, but not eggs or chicken.  Yeah, we're asking people not to, because of. I try not to do as much. Are you against animal cruelty? Not as much. I'm against it. I don't think people should be eating too much of it. They should still be. Yeah, just to, but you would, you don't think people. I still have it as a protein sometimes. You think it's crawler slaughter animals? Well, they're made to be eaten to be fair. Yeah? If they're meant to be eaten, why do they feel pain and suffer and want to live and all of that? Well, that was a joke in the beginning. That's how God put it. You reckon? Yeah. What about plants? Do you think, what about plants? Do you think they're more likely to be? Yeah, like, plant foods are fruits and vegetables and grains. Yeah, they're eating as well. Yeah, they don't suffer, they don't want to live, they don't feel pain. Yeah, true. Makes more sense to, if you do. Yeah, we still need protein with it. Yeah, do you think you can get protein from plants? You can, but not everyone will eat plants every day. Like, if someone eats plants every day, they'll get bored. Really? Yeah. There's thousands of different plant foods, and most of the food you probably eat. Eat vegan. Yeah.  Yeah, yeah, vegan cheese. Yeah, so, yeah, like, you can just swap your dairy for vegan cheese or plant milk or vegan yoga. They don't drink milk. Yeah, I just drink plant milk. So either oat milk or soy milk or rice milk or almond milk. I like oat milk myself.  Greg's have got vegan sausage roll, and I just don't use animals, man. I think it's cruel. I wouldn't want to hurt a dog. I just live my life without trying my best to not cause them suffering, you know? What do you think of that? It's good. It's good. It's everything. Yeah, but what do you think about animal cruelty and just in, it's not a good day?  I'm going to eat them because we need protein and we've been doing it for thousands of years. You should probably tell me you're crazy. There's no other meat.  Dogs are not made for it.  In my religion. Do you have to eat a lamb?  A lot of people don't. But we believe in my religion. If there's no thingy, look at the e-pigs. If there's no meat. What are you, a Muslim? Yeah, it doesn't tell you you have to eat animals as a Muslim. I know it doesn't, but it's in the sun now. Yeah, but it doesn't say Allah says you must to be a Muslim. Every animal is made for some kind of chicken. It's made for pig.  But it isn't pig's haram? It's haram, but it's made for medicine. It's not made for be eaten, because pigs, but we say pigs are dirty.  Well, I don't understand. I personally think, like, well, as a Muslim, I know plenty of vegan Muslims, you don't have to eat animals. God doesn't say that it's haram not to eat animals. It's not haram that's not to eat animals, but God advised to eat it. OK, and do you feel like if the animal has suffered that that would be haram? Yeah, if the animal has suffered, yeah. So do you follow the animals to the slaughterhouse from the farm, you know, exactly what's happening to them? Yeah. Do you? Yeah, if you go to a Muslim country, they all do it. So, but do you know where your animals are coming from here when you eat them? No, not here. So you don't know that they haven't suffered? No, but we believe, like, you know, the butchers, we believe that they know where they're thinking, where they're coming from. So we believe in the butchers. That's the butchers doing something wrong. That's up to them. But the butchers, like, our butchers contact the farm. The butchers, they say that we want them treated differently. But even when they get killed, we get killed the right way. Not, like, throw them in the thingy. We, like, when we say a Muslim animal... So you don't actually know, do you?  No, we believe in the butchers. Like, the butchers, they have special farms, the special thing. They buy from special people, from special... They wouldn't let it kill like that. Like, the butchers will kill it themselves. They go to the farm, kill themselves in the thingy. Yeah, but do you know that? Like, let's just say, when you're eating out... I just saw butchers. You trust your butcher? Yes. Do you ever eat animals from your butcher? Never out? Yeah, never out. I don't know where they're... Like, if I go to a restaurant, I don't know where that meat is coming from. Yeah, exactly.  I think the...  Is more ethical than eating plants? I don't think... I don't think you need to eat plants.  Yeah, I mean, like, look, if you've got an option to not cut an animal's head off... You ate an animal. November 2013. What made you stop?  I don't think that... I need... I don't need to. I'm not trying to survive. We've got plant-based options. Listen, listen. There's no plants on this earth. Okay, well, there is. So, I don't have to worry about it. Listen, listen, there's no plants.   No, well, if I had no choice and there was no animals, I'd probably try to eat you. Listen, listen, there was humans and animals, but there was no plants at all. Yeah, I'd probably eat a chicken. I don't know if I was going to die. I might even eat someone I don't like over the chicken. I might let the chicken survive. That's what we said to pigs. Like, if there's nothing else to eat, then pigs have to be eaten. Yeah, yeah, but we've got plants. So, what's the point of what we're doing to them? So, it all depends on what you believe in.  Heaven? Yeah, heaven. Okay, do you think there are slaughterhouses in heaven, cutting animals' heads off? No, nothing, nothing. I don't know about the subject, but I think there's already meat there. You don't need to put animals. Yeah. There'll be animals there, but birds and everything. Was it Muhammad nice to animals, Muhammad? Really? In the stories of Muhammad, he was kind to animals, yeah? Kind to a kid. I think it was a kitten in one of the stories.  He wouldn't eat kids. Sorry? He wouldn't eat kids. No, I'm just saying he was generally kind to animals, yeah? Yeah. But Prophet Muhammad, he ate animals as well. I'm proposing a question if he had a choice, but maybe no choice back then, but he has a choice now. He didn't have to. He didn't have to. The Islam was very rich at the time. He could have ate anything he wants, but he wanted to eat animals. It's not a bad thing. It's not, it's not haram. God made animals to be eaten. Okay, well, let's stick there. God made animals to be eaten. Yeah. Then why did he make them to feel pain, suffer and want to live? What do you mean? Well, animals can... Animal suffers. Yeah, but... You think plants can suffer? You think a tomato can suffer? I don't know how they're feeling. Yeah, plants don't have feelings, okay? So if God made plants not to have feelings and animals to have feelings... God made plants and made animals as well. They're both to be eaten. Yeah, but I was just wondering, like, so if one has feelings, animals have feelings, why did he make them with feelings? I don't know. Well, that's a pretty silly thing to do. If they were meant to be food, why don't you just make them not be able to feel pain? I'm not herself with that question. Well, bro, I'm just saying, like, it makes more logical sense that he made plants, fruits, vegetables, nuts, grains, legumes. Yeah. Okay? And I've heard before, I don't know, the story of Garden Eden, I know that Garden Eden was vegan, no animals were being butchered and killed. I mean, if God, if you believe that God gave you this loophole where if you do it a certain way, it's possible, but we've also got the choice not to do it as well. Yeah. And that you still can be a good Muslim. Like what?  They're cruel. I against it as well. But in Islam, we treat it differently. We don't treat it like that. Have you ever been to a Muslim country? Well, you're not in a Muslim country. You're in England. Have you ever been to a Muslim country? No, I haven't. No, I haven't, but you're not in a Muslim country. Let's say you go to any Muslim country right now, yeah? Yeah.   You go see how they treat. We don't treat them like that. Even when we eat it here, we don't eat them like that. But you're in the UK, so I'm very familiar with you. But our butchers, they don't do this to them. The butchers have got nothing to do with the farm. No, the butchers, no, the farms. They have special treatments. So I was at a Halau slaughterhouse the other day where they're slaughtering chickens. The chicken, 95% of the chickens in the UK, or higher, are factory farmed. So they would say that that's Halau. So they were, no, no, 100%. This comes down to a debate, Sunni and Shia. Sunni and Shia. This comes down to that debate because those Shia, we have different farms, different, if you want, I'll give you an address on the long side. You go speak to them. You go see how we treat them. We treat animals.  Even if the, let's say, a cow is sick, we're not allowed to eat it. We have to have a healthy cow.  So who is eating all of this Halau meat that are coming from factory farms? It all depends. Look, who's eating that? There's two sectors. There's two sectors of Islam. Our sectors, like Shia sectors, we've got to eat something else. Like, we have our own butchers, our own farms, our own everything. Like, you probably want to a Sunni one. Like, you said 95%, but we don't have that. Have you ever been to one of these farms? No. In the UK? So how do you know? Because my butchers told me. It doesn't matter. The butcher can tell you anything. No, because we're not allowed to lie in our religion. It doesn't mean Muslims don't lie. Maybe he tells you, maybe he doesn't know himself. In our religion, the industry tells the public here that this is humane. And then people don't look into it till we go look into it. I'm not sure. Yeah. And how do you think they kill the chickens?  They slit their throat? Yeah. So how many think they're doing a day? Thousands? Thousands. Yeah. So they can do that all very clean, quick? Yeah. But you're never going to run out of chicken. They're always going to be reproduced chickens.  That's how we've been living thousands of years now. Do you think if I grab a... What type of animal is... What type of animal is Haramti a dog? A dog's Haramti, a cat's Haramti, a fox's Haramti, a pig's Haramti. A lot of animals are Haramti. Okay. So what about a... Some fish animals as well. I would not show you a shark, I think. So what type of species? Let's think of the species. I'm not sure. And a kangaroo. Kangaroo, Haramti. Yeah. How do you know? Because I've looked into it. So there's only five animals that you're allowed to eat as a Muslim? Not really. We could eat pigeons, chicken, meat, like, lamb, cow meat, like, sheep... What about a squirrel? No, I don't think so. I'm not really sure for a lot to eat squirrel, but I don't think any Muslims ever do that. Do you think as long as... So basically, you base all of your morals on only whether or not it's, you know, passable in your religion. You don't look outside of that and go, well, wait a second, this animal's feeling pain, they're going to suffer. They might... If the animal's suffering, we're not allowed to eat animal religion, just to make up. So when you get a sharp knife and slash it across your throat, do you think that you would suffer? Suffer for a few seconds and that's all. Okay, well, wait a second. You just admitted that they'll suffer for a few seconds. Yeah, obviously. So if you can avoid that few... Any animal if you put it inside of the foot, it's going to suffer.  Yeah, exactly.  Exactly.  Yeah, there's nerves. Well, there's nerves in your finger. There's nerves in your neck.  That's what animals are made for. So if the animal suffers, they are haram. No, not really. But that's what they're made for. But you just said that, though. That's what they're made for. If they're suffering before they're dead, like... The meat, the meat, they're not allowed to eat it. Well, if they're suffering, like, after they die, that's obviously, after you've put it in my eyes, a sheep getting killed. They'll suffer for 10 seconds and they'll die. Well, they suffer. Yeah. So why would you cause that suffering when you can eat plants? Well, not everyone wants to eat plants. Yeah, but I'm just asking, what about the suffering? If suffering is haram and you can avoid that, why not eat a plant based and still be a good Muslim? No, because...  I've seen a lot of vegans before, changed from vegans. I never get bored. Have you seen vegan food, dude? Have you seen what we've got? We've got chocolate, we've got burgers, we've got fries, we've got whatever we want. I never get bored. I've got to watch how they get fat. Yeah. We've got cupcakes and donuts and cream filled. Yeah. Everything. It's just made of plants.  No, yeah. How do you... Dairy's haram. How's haram? Suffering. The dairy industry is haram. If you care about suffering, they take away their calves. I'm saying, I'm saying, we care about suffering before we kill them. It's a healthy animal. If we kill them in the name of God, that's not haram because we kill them in the name of God to be eaten. That's what God made it for. That's what I mean. But if the animal is suffering, like an ill animal, we're not allowed to eat that. You eat dairy, it's a product of horrific suffering. The dairy industry... I'm not sure how dairy is made. Yeah, well, I know a lot about it.  After nine months, they take the calf away because the calf will drink the milk. Then they enslave them for their milk and take the milk away.  They kill them because they're just a waste product in the dairy industry. You're so right now. This is the boggum. This will never happen in a Muslim butcher or Muslim butcher. I've seen Halal slaughter for... I've seen many instances of Halal slaughter and what they're trying to pass is Halal slaughter. I've also seen proper Orthodox Halal slaughter where they cab them and they don't let them see each other. I've seen that too. I've seen the animals struggling and suffering. Yeah, I've still seen them suffering. I see animals getting their head cut off really quick with a sharp knife by, you know, a real, you know, religious Muslim doing it the proper way. And it's still... they suffer. Yeah.  But let's say they don't die. What are we going to do with them?  But what do you think a vegan eats, dude? Sorry? What do you think a vegan eats? I'm not sure. Oh, bread and legumes and vegan cheese and, you know, we have a bunch of stuff here. Basically, everything that you can eat I have vegan versions of. Like, there's nothing that you won't... will miss out on. Like, imagine if I cut your neck right out. And eat as well. We eat a lot. I've seen. A lot of the slaughter is just sacrifice. Yeah. But it's completely needless now. It's needless. What do you think? When you sacrifice, you can sacrifice your time, your money. You can sacrifice to help the poor. You can do lots of sacrifice. Yeah, exactly. With the tradition and merely a tradition, really. Yeah, and traditions can be outdated and cruel. Yeah. That's what God made them for. But wait a second. Why is God so against you eating a suffered animal? What do you mean? You believe they can suffer? Yeah. Yeah. Why did God make them so they can suffer? Why didn't he just make them as halal automatically? No.  No, I'm saying chicken, halal, everyone. But the way they get killed, that's what makes a halal and a sheep. A sheep is halal everywhere. But what if they live in suffering? It's still haram. Well, that's why in Muslim countries we make sure that it just happens. Well, it depends on what country it depends. You're making a statement without evidence. For Muslim countries, I went to Bali and that has a good decent Muslim population. And I went to a slaughter named it was halal. I went to UAE. UAE. What's this? Dubai. Dubai? No, no, no. Go there. Speak to one of them. Dude, if anyone wants to take me into a slaughterhouse and I'll bring my camera and film the whole thing. Yeah. And then we can talk about whether or not that animal suffered. If you go to any butcher, if you go to a slaughterhouse, there'll be more than more than. Have you ever been in a slaughterhouse and watched animals in Iraq? Yeah, I'm talking about in the UK. No, not in the UK. And I probably know more about the industry than you do. But you'll trust your butcher. But hey, tell your butcher to give me an email. Yeah. I want to go to his farm, this magical farm. Where are these farms, dude? How many Muslims are in the UK? Do you want an address? Huh? Do you want an address? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, look into it. It's a long sight. Go speak to them. You can ask them to show you the farm. It's everything. So when you go out during the day right now, what are you going to eat? I don't eat meat. I wish I'd get home. Like, if I... If I... I'm the same as you right now.  I love. Like, if I go to Subway, I have to go get tuna or something. I don't get anything else. Tuna? Yeah.  I'm not sure. They get dragged out the ocean by their face and suffocate to death. I'm not sure. Yeah, fish feel pain and suffer. So if you're eating a fish... The fish I was checking were made for fishing. The fish are made for fishing? Yeah. Okay. But wait a second. They suffer too? Yeah, I know they suffer. They're taking made for fishing. So where is all this fish getting killed in the halal way on the boat? There's no halal way in killing fish. So it doesn't matter. They're exempt. They're exempt. They have a get out of jail free card. There's fish. Don't worry about it. No worries. So you could torture... I could essentially torture a fish right here. You can't torture a fish. Why not? Wait a second. They're exempt from the boat. It's not meant to be tortured. Like any animal. Right now you're meeting that sounds like they're meant to be tortured. They're not. I don't think they're made to be eaten or tortured at all. But I'm just saying essentially what you're saying is fish are exempt from your religious rules here. Yeah. That I could torture a fish and it would still be halal. Yeah. Well, that's just inconsistent. That's logically inconsistent. It doesn't make any sense. It's okay to question things. You know what I mean? But you can question things yourself. You don't have to just submit completely to all these things that don't, you know. You can believe in God. I have no problem with believing in God. But when you're using God to justify cruelty...  Well, God's not telling you you have to. I can be a vegan Christian. I can be a vegan Muslim. If you've got to be a Muslim or a Christian you'll see why. I know vegan Muslims. I know vegan Muslims as well. But I know a lot of vegan Muslims that turn. Are they bad Muslims? They're not bad Muslims. But they start... You meet after they said there's no point of being vegan. It's not like a compulsory thing anymore. Well, it depends on if you care about ethics outside of your religion. Yeah. But what we believe is what animals are made for, for medicine, for fun, for fishing and for eating. So they're made for pleasure to basically experiment on. Yeah. And for fun, you say? Yeah. For fishing. Yeah.  So if they were made for fishing why didn't they just why didn't God just make them so they didn't suffer? I just don't understand. No, I'm not sure. So do you think that's more of the work of the devil? Sorry? Why would someone create animals to suffer, especially a fish? You say they're just here for fishing. I don't know where that's written in the religious text but we can talk about that. That is... Okay, I'm going to make fish for fishing. Okay, I'm also going to make it so they suffer extremely bad when they get hooked in the face.  No, that's only... God said that's only if it's like the last resort. Like if there's no plants, no animals, if you're only in the desert by yourself then you could eat a dog if you don't have a dog. Okay. So dogs are a last resort but eating a sheep is the first resort. Why? Because sheeps are made to be eaten. Dogs are not made to be eaten. Dogs are made to be eaten. Dogs are made to be eaten by security. But that's the last resort. That's the last thing you can do for a sheep, for a dog. Yeah. But first resort kind of sheeps head off no worries, even if there's plants available. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's completely inconsistent, personally. I think it's inconsistent. I think there's no point. You don't have to. It's needless. It's cruel. Yeah. You know they suffer. It all goes down to what you believe in. Yeah. Well, you believe it too because you believe they suffer when they have their throat slashed open. And pigs will put here to be eaten? No. Medicine. So what are like I said, Muslims have a different belief to most other people who believe pigs will put here to be eaten. No. We put pigs there here for medicine. So Christians believe pigs will put here to be eaten too. And we find pigs as dirty as was. Yeah.  It's not even healthy. It's not even healthy. You eat dairy so this is what you support when you eat. These are calves being killed because they're useless in the dairy industry. So I think the dairy problem for you might be a bit significant. I'm not sure. I'll look into it. So why is dairy halal? Do you have halal dairy? No. I don't think so. Okay. So basically these animals in the dairy industry are not being killed halal but you're funding this industry to happen. This is a calf in a dead bin. This is actually me at a dairy farm where they're suffering. Taken away from their mothers and kept in cages. This is hutches enslaved. This is slavery. So you consume dairy and all this. This is why your religion's not covering everything here. You know they suffer. You can avoid that little bit of suffering. You wouldn't even have to say that forgiveness prayer. You could just eat plant foods but it comes down to you know I feel like you're using your religion as like it's more it's like a I think my justification is right in religion so everything everything in my religion is correct. Yeah. Do you do anything for your own person out of your own personal mind like your own personal reasoning? Yeah that's what God gave us free will. Okay so you've got free will. I could choose right now to go eat bacon but I don't I don't choose to because I believe in God. You could also choose right now to do something that's not haram like eat bacon and choose to eat plants and not Yeah exactly and that's not Muslim. I choose to just follow the sun of the prophet that's what the prophet used to do that's what I'm going to do.


And Chinese medicine is a very interesting way of viewing all the body systems and even how they link to psychological or emotional states. And whenever I'm speaking with patients, they often find this to be really interesting because very often it is related to their diagnosis, but also kind of this through line throughout their lives of being a little bit more anxious or a little bit of a worrier or maybe caving to fear or experiencing an unnatural amount of fear. So in this video, I thought I would share one of these specific states that I find to be the most common clinically. Hey guys, Dr. Alex Hine, Chinese medicine doctor, acupuncturist and author of the health book Master of the Day, which you can check out on Amazon and Audible. Now I've included a link below this video, which is if you'd like to become a patient of mine either locally, this info on my clinic, or online via telemedicine, you can reach out below. And there's also a free guide to download, which is four daily rituals that can help you add years to your life with traditional Chinese medicine. So a big thing in Chinese medicine is that everything is related, right? There's never just one thing. There's never just this outlier event like there's just headaches with no other problem or there's just bowel movement issues or bloating with no other problems. They're always related to a system that's gone awry. One of the most just clinical observations that's really important is the link between certain organs and their emotional pathologies, if I could call it that. For example, a common one that we see is, you know, to come up with a stereotype would be a certain kind of hypertension, a certain kind of high blood pressure where the person coming in has a beet red face. They sweat easily and they're a little bit more agitated or a little bit more aggressive. That's basically a very cliche presentation and it's not every patient with high blood pressure I have, but that's more of like a liver pattern in Chinese medicine and you guessed it, the pathological emotion of the liver is anger. Now in this video though, I wanted to talk about one related to digestion because it's one of the most common problems that I see clinically and anxiety is definitely one of the top five problems that I see clinically. So two organs that are very, very related in anxiety patterns are the kidney and the spleen in Chinese medicine. So the spleen primarily just think of it as relating to digestion, especially appetite, bloating, what you would probably call pancreatic enzyme secretion as well as bowel movements. So a person who has like a spleen, chi deficiency as it's called usually easily gets a food baby, gets bloated, usually has looser stools or frequent stools often has easily gets allergies like food allergies, food sensitivities, but the pathological emotion associated with this is overthinking or worry or anxiety. Now the reason these states are associated with certain organs is kind of like a chicken and egg scenario. So a person with you know pretty severely progressed spleen or digestive disease will often experience those emotions. You know, there's a lot of modern research linking like irritable bowel syndrome to anxiety and depression and there's some very high percentage overlap like 60 to 70% of patients with IBS often have symptoms of anxiety or depression, but also it can go the other way, right? Like you're worried about something you're ruminating over something while you're eating your lunch and you feel kind of indigested after you don't feel like the food really sits in your stomach well. The other organ related is the kidney. Now the kidney is related to what's called the emotion of I guess you could say fear and it's related to willpower. So the reason these ancient doctors actually linked the kidney for example with fear is that number one I think they were trying to describe the ancient effect of adrenal burnout as we call it now or HPA access dysregulation where for example in one level if you're exposed to prolonged fear and prolonged stress it ends up resulting in a burnout or anxiety depression like scenario. Now in Chinese medicine your kidney is the organ you often treat for depression or anxiety. So that's why that link makes sense. But on the other side it is again that chicken or egg scenario where the kidney is said to store the will and for example your kidney is linked to your lifespan or inherited. Let's call it your battery your genetic longevity battery. So when you excessively drain yourself through work or whatever it is you have to do that's burning yourself out the cliche being the CEO whose grave by the time he's 40 is because the kidney stores the essence and one of the signs of this essence depletion is graying of hair or premature graying of hair. So on some level excessive use of the will burnout it pleads the kidney and then I can then expose you or predispose you to these other pathological emotions. So these emotions are kind of a chicken and egg scenario. It's not always one thing creates the other or one thing leads to the other but I thought it was interesting that for many people with digestive problems with what I would call spleen chi deficiency they often manifest with clinical anxiety you know not just feeling anxious but severe anxiety their heart races they can't sleep they always feel on edge you know pretty severe stuff that people are often on antidepressants for they're often manifesting with gut and digestive dysfunction. All right guys that's all I have for today now again if you'd like to become a patient of mine locally check out the link below to my clinic that's the easiest way to get a hold of me. There's also a free download which is for daily rituals that can help you add years to your life with traditional Chinese medicine that's also right below this video. All right before you go I have two related videos right here.