Petro's custody hits different parts of Nigeria, and of course its forced motorways to spend hours at filling stations while battling to get the product. What exactly is responsible for the field's custody at the moment? And Nigeria's federal government has lashed out that some foreign embassies is alleging are issuing unverified terror warnings on the security situation in the nation's capital, the federal capital territory. Who do we believe? The federal government or the foreign embassies will discuss this ahead on the program. And as usual, we have a look at the news of our headlines and lighting some of the biggest stories on the front pages with a guest analyst all ahead on the breakfast this morning. All right, good morning to you. We're back with a breakfast and plus, CV Afghan, it's a beautiful Tuesday, Thursday morning in which you live from our studios right here at Victoria Arden Lagos. Of course, it's been a whirlwind week of discussions right here on the program. And we're here to give you more interesting discussions, so please sit back, relax, you can grab a cup of coffee like I have in front of me and be a part of the program. My name is Kofi Bartels, flying solo this morning because Messi is unavoidably absent, but I'm sure hopefully she'll be back tomorrow and I will do it better when she returns. For some time now, we've been looking at some of the training stories and particularly the one concerning the only of Ife and his marriages. I think it was yesterday or two days ago we had as part of our top training segment the fact that he had married his sixth wife in the matter of a few months, you know, we had to look at what people on social space were saying regarding that. Well, he's back on a training segment, that's the only of Ife, believe it or not. And if you remember that day, I said how many more, you know, and we actually said that as a traditional ruler, he's entitled like someone would say to do all these to get himself, the wife is getting, it's his private life and he can decide to rule as he wishes as far as it's not breaking any rules, any laws, so it's not a duty or role to criticize him, you know, but I said as a human being, as an individual, the question I asked was how many more, because I said I was asking that out of curiosity, not to judge the man. Well, I don't know if these reports are true, all right, but the only would be said to be verified when the palace would make a statement, but he reportedly said to marry a seventh wife, but who goes by the name Aridunu, Aridunu, their speculation is that about any time a day or year, Ogunwusi is planning to marry Adiru, this is coming just like I said barely 48 hours because he used it of married his sixth wife on Monday, it's coming barely 48 hours after this revered monarch married his sixth wife, Princess Demitokwe, that is a picture of Aridunu in front of you, it's wife number seven, I'm sure the only who has the resources to maintain all these wives, you know, but well, this is it, this is it, reports are just reports making the rounds, that October 29th is the date slated for this particular royal wedding, Obaidu told Adiru Ogunwusi had disclosed why he had been marrying several wives, several women for weeks now, he just marked his 48th birthday and seventh coronation anniversary, he clarified why he married Mariam Anako and others, he explained that, you know, he tried making some changes but he couldn't, all right, maybe referring to his decision to keep to only one queen and have concubines, I said he tried to make some changes but he couldn't, this is what he said, quote, or this is what he quoted as saying, the institution is bigger than me, beyond me, people in this palace are more than 800, they are close to a thousand, there are some people who have been living in this palace for more than 60 years or some have lived here for more than 80 years or some who live here more than 80 years old, some people are over 100 years old in this palace, if I had my way, I tried to challenge it but it blew in my face but thank God I'm still alive, it's an institution that is rich in heritage, culture and tradition, so you can read between the lines, so we'll say congratulations in advance, if this story is true to His Royal Highness and of course to the kingdom because of course they have something new to celebrate, like I said the last time I'll say it again, you know, how many more, you know, how many more, you know, this is going to be the last, it's his right, I'll repeat again it's his right to, you know, to marry as many as he wants to marry but just out of curiosity asking how many more will it be, it's not too strange to have monarchs in this part of the world marrying as many as wives as they want to marry, if you remember the late, I think I laugh you over, very fine gentleman who just recently passed on, he had his own pension also for marrying quite a number of wives, so this isn't the first time, so we wish the oba or only of you the very best in his new marriage, people are talking, all right, why are people talking because they think, you know, maybe they're not used to seeing you know any individual, not even a monarch, marry as many wives as this in such a short period, you know, imagine, imagine marrying one on Monday and then by Thursday we're hearing that he couldn't marry wife number seven, you know, it's not true, some people are saying they're not used to it, some are also saying, oh, the oba is quite young, why doesn't he wait, you know, maybe marry his first wife, second wife, maybe wait when he gets a video older and if he needs a younger blood, he can then, you know, marry some more, say, okay, what if these ones get old, he gets old and he wants a younger blood, would he now marry 14 wives is what some are asking, but of course, he's entitled to marry as many as he wants to marry according to tradition, so wish him the best as he, you know, looks forward to marrying his seventh wife, if the palace comes out to make a statement, then we can take this as, you know, verified news for now, it is a rumor, it is a word out there on the street and we bring you what the social media street is saying and, you know, at the end of the day we'll always wait for the palace spokesman to put out an official statement, you know, but if we go by what's been happening in recent weeks, sometimes even before the palace makes an official statement, we usually would hear that or something's about to happen, don't mean to sound like a preacher. Okay, let's move on, there was, you know, quite a lot of reaction to the announcement regarding Namdi Khan, he's been getting victories in court recently, the latest victory he's gotten in court, you know, he won one billionaire in an Umayyar court or is it an Abiyar court that is, he also got his appeal court ruling in his favor, which in effect, the federal government should set him free. All right, and then the latest is that federal high court in Umayyar State has asked the federal government to award, so the one billion was an Abiyar State court or high court. Now, this is 500 millionaire coming from a federal high court in Umayyar, which is ordered the federal government of Nigeria to award or pay rather, the leader of the prescribed indigenous people of BFR group damages to the tune of 500 million narrow and also to return to status co-ante and the court, you know, ruled when they delivered a judgment on Wednesday, yesterday, October 26th in the suit on the extraordinary rendition of the prescribed leader of the indigenous people of BFR group, Namdi Khanu. All right, presiding judge was Milord Yorambo Justice, Erwin Iron D.K., set a date to deliver her ruling after she, you know, listened to the issues raised by the plaintiff on the 4th of October. All right, but it is important to note that Khanu's lawyers had filed this suit before the court in March, you know, this year, they were seeking redress or redress, you know, over what they call the infamous unlawful explosion or extraordinary rendition of their clients, Namdi Khanu, which they said was a violation of his fundamental rights. So, this is different from the case in Abuja that is actually on the treason and the substantive matters, which of course he also appealed in the court now made it to the termination on his extraordinary, what they call rendition. I think that has been, now is now judicial pronouncement so we can say that he was extraordinarily rendered. In fact, the court is ordering that he be returned to Kenya where he was taken from, you know, he will return to Kenya where he was taken from. So, it's quite an interesting one. Congratulations to Namdi Khanu right there. He's going to be 1.5 billion Naira Richa when he eventually gets out of prison.  That being said, we'll see what happens. Will they appeal or not? We'll have to monitor the situation. But 1.5 billion Naira is some good amount of money. But I don't know if Khanu will be assuaged because we know that in the midst of all this, he lost some people who were close to him. You know that he had to bury his parents. We also know that some of his comrades were shot when an attack on his home was launched. We also know that some of those who, his comrades, are still languishing in prison. Some also who around the Ansar's period were arrested, are still in jail as we speak. So it's, it could be said to be a bittersweet one for him. We'll monitor the situation as time goes on, of course, the comments online. Let's move on to the last trending story. Now picture this, pictures as someone who steals food stuff, breaks into a facility, you know, premises and then takes food stuff, is given a jail sentence, prison sentence of 21 years, 21 years. Now if you go by what people are saying online, a lot of people think that this is harsh. Why would somebody who's been jailed for, who stole food be given 21 years prison sentence? Well, now this sentence is coming from Anakiti State High Court, the Anakiti Division. They sentenced a thief or what we can call a burglar to 21 years in prison. Now according to the charge, this is very important to note, on May 11, two years ago, 2020, in some part of Anakiti, the capital of those states, this individual, Jimo Dele, broke into a building as well as a shop belonging to a certain individual called Olu, sorry, YMEC, all right, Olu YMEC and Dele. And Jimo stole goods worth over 234,000 there, including food stuff from Olu YMEC's shop. Goods and food stuff worth over 234,000 Naira. Now why was he given 21 years in prison? Well, the prosecutor, all right, said that the offenses were contrary to sections 413 and 309, subsection 9 of the criminal code, law cap C16, laws of Anakiti State, 2012. And upon this, they made the, they approached the court in media cases before the court. So Justice Ola Lekon, Ola Taurah, who found the defendant guilty, sentenced him to 14 years on count one and seven years on count two, 14 years on count one and seven years on count two. Of course, if you listen to what we said earlier, the man made the, committed a crime in 2020. Now, does this mean that he had been in prison or in jail awaiting trial for two years, or did they just arrest him? Because if he was awaiting trial for two years, and he won't add the two years to his 21 year sentence, they'll make it 23 years. If the case has been done for two years, still, if he was in prison, going to the court from prison, then of course you'll make that 23 years. We don't know. All right, but the comments online, a lot of people say now, this is too harsh, 21 years, politicians. Why would you jail this man, 21 years, and somebody steals money in jail in only two years? Or you give him a presidential pardon? It is too harsh. A lot of Nigerians are rising to the defense of this man. Well, the question remains, if you do the crime, do you have any complaints? If you found guilty, do you have any complaints? Whatever comes your way. Isn't it better to not do the crime than to say, oh, you give me 21 years, what about that politician? He didn't give him 21 years. Why don't you just stay away from criminality and save yourself the calculation? All right, we'll put the plugs on the top trending segment for now. We'll return when we come back. We'll have a look at what the papers are saying. It's to the breakfast on Plus TV Africa.


It's no secret that a lot of the entertainment landscape has been pretty weak over the past year. And with so little production in 2020, there's not a ton of stuff coming out to look forward to. But fortunately, there have been a number of new streaming shows that have come out recently that are worth checking out. Like Mythic Quest, which is a brilliant show on Apple TV created by Rob McElhaney and Charlie Day. We might also know from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and by Megan Gantz, who wrote and produced for Modern Family and Community. The show just wrapped an excellent second season that was, in my opinion, even better than the first. It's witty and full of specific, well-developed characters. It has a ton of depth and heart, even given its insane setting inside the world of video game development.  And it was responsible for what was probably the single most creative and moving piece of peak pandemic content that anyone produced. More importantly, there are a number of themes and ideas in the show that are entirely worth talking about, starting with the common belief that art and commerce are inherently opposed to each other. It also manages to make interesting and valid points about the culture of the video game and entertainment industries, the problems with making decisions based on political correctness instead of merit, the absurdity of identity politics, and the difference between complaining and creating. The show even contains a ton of great lessons about creativity, entrepreneurship, and building the right mentality for a successful career. Fair warning, there will be spoilers for both the plot and for specific scenes, so if you haven't seen it yet, please pause this video, watch two seasons of streaming TV, and come right back so that we can talk about Mythic Quest on today's episode of Out of Frame. Alright, let's start with a quick synopsis of the show. Mythic Quest is a comedy series about a chaotic video game studio starring show creator Rob McElhaney as Ayan Grimm, a visionary egomaniac, I mean, creative director who leads the development of the world's most successful massive multiplayer online role-playing game, or MMORPG. The series opens with the launch and reception of their first-ever expansion, Raven's Banquet. I have a ton of great things to say about the show's overall production, but the best part about it is its ensemble of consistently interesting, well-written, relatable, and often hilarious characters. There's lead developer Poppy Lee, executive producer David Brittlesby, David's assistant Joe, director of monetization Brad Bakshi, the two game testers Dana and Rachel, and head writer C.W. Longbottom, played by acting legend F. Murray Abraham. I think it's brilliant. The first season introduces us to each of these characters and focuses on the interplay between creating a great game in the opinion of the designers, providing a gameplay experience that players love, and making sure that the game is actually profitable so the thousands of people who participated in its production and maintenance continue to have jobs and get to make more video games in the future. A lot of the series deals with some of the more surreal aspects of the modern entertainment world, like the idea that a 14-year-old YouTuber can make or break the financial success of a new expansion, but the greatest tension usually revolves around the clash between Iron, Poppy, and Brad, over which features are creative, necessary, good additions to the game, and which are just a crass attempt at bringing in more money. This is an age-old battle between creators and financiers. The tension between art and commerce is real, but in my experience as someone who has spent his entire adult life in creative careers, it's also usually unnecessary. The second episode of Mythic Quest is aptly named The Casino. Brad proposes a new addition to the game that Poppy lows, in part because it doesn't fit the fantasy aesthetic and setting, but also because, to her, it just seems gross. They fight about it, and Poppy loses her cool. It's an artless money grab that has no connection to the game. Okay, well, this is a great opportunity to unify, right? Spruce it up, make it fit, the perfect fusion of art and commerce. Brad, you know what? In a lot of ways, you are The Casino.  We don't need that, and we don't need you. For a lot of reasons, Brad is one of my favorite characters on the show. He's kind of a chaotic evil presence, and incredibly Machiavellian in his interaction with everyone else in the company, but he's also perfectly upfront about his goals and motives, which makes him really entertaining to watch. After their fight, Brad decides to teach Poppy a lesson about the importance of in-game monetization by turning off prices for loot and giving away all the best stuff for free. This probably should go without saying, but if there's no revenue coming in from the loot in Raven's Banquet, then the people who work on Mythic Quest don't get paid. You don't have the money to pay for a full programming team, so they left. But not only that, without prices, there's no way to identify the value of different types of goods inside the game's economy, which means that legendary items that are meant to be uncommon in the game suddenly pop up everywhere, creating a bunch of OP noobs and ruining the experience of the game itself. We've talked about this a million times on Outer Frame, but prices are incentives wrapped in knowledge. They help us navigate a world of limited resources and unlimited wants. Through prices, we learn which goods and services are more or less valuable, which businesses are doing a good or a poor job of serving their customers. Consumers learn when they need to reduce their consumption of scarce goods, and when it's okay to use more, businesses learn when they need to roll back or amp up their rate of production, and entrepreneurs have a means of seeing gaps in the market that need to be filled with new products, processes, and ideas. They're incredibly important, and recreating real-world scarcity inside an MMORPG economy not only ensures that the game has a revenue stream coming in to support new expansions like Raven's Banquet, but also helps players inside the game understand the relative value of different types of content. Most in-game MMORPG economies aren't perfect analogs for real life, in part because many game companies set prices, but they're pretty close. And once you get into the secondary exchange markets in games like WoW, Minecraft, or presumably Mythic Quest, where users are trading directly with each other, prices are often entirely set by the voluntary interaction of the players themselves, inside markets that are much more free from top-down intervention than most of the ones that exist in the real world. Economists and educators even use these kinds of games in their research and classrooms. One of the crazier aspects of my life creating these kinds of video essays and responding to people on YouTube is how often I have to explain the basics of how money and prices actually work. Understanding this stuff is really important, and I'm personally happy that gaming can be an entry point into market economies for those who are willing to think about it in a little more depth. But anyway, back in the world of Mythic Quest, Ion and CW figure out how to merge Brad's financial interests with Poppy's concerns about maintaining the integrity of the game while appeasing longtime fans at the same time. They accomplish this by creating a new story arc where they promise to dramatically reveal the identity of a mysterious non-player character called The Masked Man, who has been randomly taking or giving loot to players that interact with him for years. Fans had long been demanding to know who he was, and it actually makes some sense to have his domain be a casino. So, they redesign the casino to fit the aesthetic of the game and make it the Masked Man's lair, thus merging Brad's new revenue-generating ideas into an intriguing storyline. It's the kind of solution to a multifaceted problem that people at the intersection of art and commerce are often called on to discover. And getting good at coming up with these kinds of answers is what makes it possible for people to have longevity in creative careers. Guys, it's the perfect fusion of art and commerce.  Hate him? Oh yeah, I do hate him. Yeah, I feel nothing for him. He's a sociopath. But the money that he brings in makes the whole game actually run. You get that, right? She kind of doesn't, though. In spite of being a principal at a major game studio like Mythic Quest, Poppy doesn't really have a handle on why monetization is important. Instead, she seems to think that she can ignore things that bring money into the game and still continue to have a large programming team working for her, executing her vision and building the technology and features that she thinks are cool. But that's not how any of this works. Quoting the late, great George Mason University economist, Walter Williams, We might think of dollars as being certificates of performance. The better I serve my fellow man and the higher the value he places on that service, the more certificates of performance he gives me. The more certificates I earn, the greater my claim on the goods my fellow man produces. That's the morality of the market. In order for one to have a claim on what his fellow man produces, he must first serve him. Money solves several problems in society. For one thing, using a shared, well-established monetary system helps facilitate trust between trading partners by ensuring that both sides have a consistent way to measure the value of whatever they're exchanging. But more importantly, money allows us to overcome a major issue with barter economies that economists call the double coincidence of wants. If Poppy wasn't able to pay her employees in money, she'd have to find goods and services to barter that each individual person wanted or needed at that moment. Likewise, if the millions of players who play Mythic Quest weren't able to trade money for the time they spend in the game, they'd all have to magically figure out what I and Poppy and everyone else at the company wanted and try to provide it for them directly. Needless to say, that's silly and impossible. And it's why we use money instead. But of course, the necessity and benefit of money doesn't make it any less of a challenge for artists and creators to find the balance between making what they want and making what can actually be sold. And that's really why Poppy and Ion hate Brad. This art versus commerce theme comes back in a massive way a few episodes later. Dark Quiet Death is a full-on flashback to another game company formed in the 1990s by a couple named Doc and Bean, played beautifully by Jake Johnson and Kristen Miliotti. The whole episode is incredibly heartfelt, doesn't feature any of the other characters, and it seems totally disconnected from the main story. Although in reality, it's actually foreshadowing challenges to come for Mythic Quest as a game studio. It's also a perfect lesson in creative entrepreneurship. Doc and Bean meet in a video game store, and upon realizing that they don't actually like any of the games there, decide to create their own. This is the way a lot of entrepreneurial journeys begin, with a personal sense of dissatisfaction about the state of some part of the world. Apologies for the shameless self-promo here, but as Bioshock creator Ken Levine said during our recent livestream conversation, if you're not making something that you think is cool, it's very hard to create value for the gamer, but at the end of the day, without them, there is no game. There is no artwork, there is nothing, and so I'm very concerned, and I'm always thinking about the person I'm making this for. If you're not making something that at least makes you happy, it's hard to imagine it making anyone else happy. But just because you like what you've made doesn't mean anyone else will. And in a free society, other people can't, or at least shouldn't be forced into supporting your work, no matter how much you hope they do. It's your potential customers, not you, who will ultimately determine the success or failure of the product you create. So you can't make art that's only for yourself and expect to make a living as a creator. And it's that fact, not the existence of money or the need for a product to be monetized that creates the art versus commerce tension we've been talking about. Unfortunately, that can be hard to really grok for a lot of artists. So they assume that it's the money guys who are the villains. Instead of stepping back and questioning whether or not they're simply investing a ton of time and resources, creating something that no one else is willing to buy with their certificates of performance. I get it. After all, the idea that maybe the work you're so passionate about isn't really adding much value to society isn't exactly fun or easy to accept. So instead of entertaining that possibility, a lot of people are prone to blaming their audience for not knowing greatness when they see it. Or they get mad at the beam counters who often end up being the ones delivering the bad news. Of course, that doesn't mean the money people are always right either. The villain in the Dark Quiet Death episode is DQD's brand manager Tom, played by Jeffrey Owens. Tom is constantly pushing Doc and especially being towards more and more changes that will make the game more commercially viable, appeal to a wider audience, and appease their parent company in Montreal. But he doesn't really get or fully care about the artistic intent behind the game. So his suggestions would often sacrifice the elements that make Dark Quiet Death unique. He is fairly successful, however, so over a roughly five-year period, the sequels to their simple, dark, gothic idea end up becoming nothing more than clones of Resident Evil. This isn't what Bean set out to make, nor is it what players loved about the original game. Bean is right. But like Poppy, she's also ignoring the major trade-offs involved. This scene is so important, and it captures perhaps the most direct conflict between art and commerce. Doc promises Bean that they're going to be able to hold onto their vision exactly as it always was while growing the company. He's wrong. They can't. The truth is, Dark Quiet Death could have remained a quirky series with a small audience, and maybe Bean would have been happier if it had. But it wouldn't have been able to expand the studio, and it would have been harder for Doc and Bean to develop new games. This is a real trade-off. Eventually, the concessions add up to a game that is totally different than what Bean set out to create, and she has to walk away from her own creation. The whole episode is poignant and sad, and it really pushes the idea that commercial incentives get in the way of true creativity. But I think what really happened is that Doc and Bean had mismatched goals and expectations. Art and commerce don't have to clash the way these episodes of Mythic Quest suggest. But in order to understand why, there are a couple other aspects of the show we need to talk about first. What follows will be a bit of a departure from everything we've spent most of this episode talking about so far, but I promise it'll all come together in the end. Some of the best and funniest scenes in Mythic Quest revolve around its essentially anti-woke take on entitlement culture. Although nearly every character in the series has their moments of petty or grand narcissism, perhaps the most entitled and self-absorbed person on the show is actually Rachel, played by Ashley Birch. Rachel is a politically outspoken lesbian who constantly complains about oppression and the patriarchy, while not really spending any of her time focused on developing her personality or skills. Weirdly, I don't say this is a bad thing. She's an incredibly clear, relatable, and well-written character. She's just also frequently irritating to most of her coworkers. Now that I have your attention, I'd actually like to use my platform to talk about something kind of important. In other words, Rachel is kind of a caricature of an obnoxiously woke, Gen Z activist. Throughout season one, her main story arc is all about her trying to work up the courage to tell Dana, who is generally way cooler and more chill, that she's attracted to her. The show doesn't play this for laughs or mock their relationship, nor does it make Rachel and Dana into avatars for the entire gay community. In fact, Mythic Quest treats all its characters like actual people. Not a lot of shows do that anymore, but I think it's why the writers, including Ashley Birch, by the way, avoid the temptation to protect Rachel and her ideology from criticism. Rachel is a good person. She's usually well-meaning, generally cheerful, and I find myself rooting for her. But the show doesn't give her a pass for her worst tendencies. From the very first episode, she's repeatedly taken to task for being demanding and obnoxious. When Rachel finally works up the courage to ask Dana out, it's a big win for her when they start dating. But Dana has aspirations of becoming more than a mid-level tester at a video game company. And as she starts to think about her future, Dana decides she wants to learn how to code, so she applies to Berkeley's computer science program and leaves her job with Rachel to go work for Poppy. This in turn sends Rachel into some kind of existential crisis where, feeling left behind, she decides to demand a better career for herself. But unlike Dana, Rachel seems to be more interested in the demand and her underlying sense of entitlement than she is in actually creating value for Mythic Quest. She wants success in the video game industry, but she doesn't really want to work for it or accept the trade-offs that come with it. This all comes to a head when she finds herself driving Ayan back to the studio. Remember, Ayan is a big deal in the gaming world, and probably her boss's boss's boss. But she spends pretty much the entire time whining until Ayan breaks. She has no idea. Rachel hasn't spent any time figuring that out, so by the time she and Ayan get back to the studio, she still hasn't taken advantage of the huge opportunity she has right in front of her. And keep in mind that she's someone who works for one of the top game studios in the world, which means that for all her claims of oppression, Rachel is already in an enviable position that millions of people would do anything to be in. She's kind of the person who tells other people to check their privilege but can't even see her own. Finally, just as Ayan is about to leave, she says. Turns out, complaining is a lot easier than creating. And that's where all this stuff comes back together. The battle between art and commerce is often truly a battle between the artist's desire to command unlimited resources with zero tradeoffs or accountability and the hard limits of reality. Many people want the freedom that comes with total creative control but don't want the responsibility of having to worry about creating anything that is actually profitable. To be honest, this has always seemed incredibly selfish to me. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of instances where the pressure to create something profitable results in artistic concessions that aren't worth making. And as an artist, it's always going to be up to you to decide where to draw that line. The money guys certainly won't do it for you. But anyone who dreams of an artistic career needs to realize that they will never be able to sustain that kind of lifestyle without genuinely creating value for their clients, employers, and most importantly, their audiences. Wining won't make you a better creator, but it may very well cost you clients and close the door on potential opportunities. Thriving in a creative career is hard. And speaking as someone who has hired writers, editors, designers, and all sorts of other artists over the last several years, it's actually pretty tough to find great collaborators. Unfortunately, it's really easy to find people who brag about skills they don't really have, or people who are skilled but don't have the work ethic, reliability, or even a good attitude. More recently, it's become shockingly common to find people who, like Rachel, demand to be included or hired simply because of the identity group they belong to. Sadly, that's been a fairly effective strategy in some corners of the entertainment industry.  Instead, be someone who understands that everyone should be hired and can have a solid career as an artist or as anything else based on how much value they bring to the table. You need to have confidence in your own vision, yes, but you also need humility and enough perseverance to develop your craft. You need to test your creations in the marketplace so you truly understand whether or not your work is actually enjoyed by other people, and you need to be willing to learn from price signals, changing course if necessary. Then, you need to demonstrate that you can get right back out there and do it all again. And by the way, if you don't want to do all that, if you don't want to accept the kinds of trade-offs that are necessary to have a great career as a professional in the creative arts, that's totally fine. Let it be your hobby. You can make whatever you want for yourself, you'll never be beholden to the brads or toms of the world, and you don't even have to know what you want to accomplish. Your art will just be for you to enjoy, and there's nothing wrong with that. No judgment. Just don't expect to find a massive audience and become a multimillionaire or build a giant studio, and don't try to force other people to support you. The most successful professionals are the ones who find a way to not only create the kinds of art they personally love, but who also see themselves as entrepreneurs who actually have to pay attention and respond to market signals. They embrace the clash between art and commerce instead of pointlessly complaining about it. So if you want to be able to make a living in a creative field, and if you want to create content that will reach millions of people, learn to see creativity and commerce not as opposites or enemies, but as partners working hand in hand. Hey everybody, thanks for watching this episode of Out of Frame. A lot of the advice I ended up giving in this episode is themed around creativity, but in reality I think it applies to pretty much any career you could ever hope to get. The more you learn to see your job as creating value for other people, the more success you're going to have. I'd love to talk about your career goals and dreams in the comments. 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Good day, May 40th here. I think I found that the secret to properly using this gimbal and That is to power it up That the gimbal seems to work a ton better When it's got power who would have thought so Here we go. This is the Queen Elizabeth. Look at that ship That's amazing and Sydney Arbor Right, let's do it. Let's do it. I quite have this gimbal thing down. I'm gonna get it down. Here we go This way a bit I was thinking of taking a guided tour of Sydney What the hell man? You're taking the guided tour of Sydney Just too expensive, right? I give it a walking tour of 35 bucks Australian 20 bucks American Bit dear I was looking at the the comments and One of them said our Luke thinks it's some kind of major crime against humanity To get up in a seat on an airplane But when every seat is taken on an airplane If everyone was getting up obviously the chaos so you want to minimize how often you get up then if you have to Two people in the row have to get up at the same time as you then You want to minimize what you do to other people. So yeah, you need to take into account the effect of your choices and other people But On my 15 hour plane ride over absolutely jam-packed I've never taken an ocean cruise Looks delightful So there isn't exactly a bad part of Sydney like Jim Bowden Like laughed at me when I said like, you know, where are the parks where there are the gang wars? Not allowed not a lot of bad parts of Sydney So you can feel free to go and walk about Without worrying about the absolute disaster Might be for you Steven James He just retweeted me So, you know Luke Ford taking the maximalist no-wank position, you know blaring no-wank propaganda Manly Beach Yeah, Steven James got my number, but I didn't have the number of this gimbal I need some quality content here Can't just be all Light-hearted for Volody Let's bring the quality content here. I'm sure those are all the problems and concerns and grievances from for example So this is Misha sauce podcast is interviewing author of the Napoleonic Wars And by its Misha and the author from the country of Georgia Our Georgian citizens who are of a Azerbaijani background Armenian background or even You've probably seen reports of a of tensions and many concerns and difficulties. So that's one issue the second is that Georgians at the moments of this kind of historic importance They show remarkable resilience and ability to unite So that is not something that Georgians are particularly known for Hey, by the way, just incidentally, whatever happened the worldwide web So whenever I try to go anywhere on the internet on my iPhone It always asked me to download some app Then that Floating worldwide web where we're all connected across the internet. It's been walled off into all these various beat-ups. That's right. There is a lot of Egos involved in Georgian character historic planets, you know, you can say stereotypically are very proud men proud individuals Very individualistic individuals, but they're Okay, are there any people who aren't proud Seriously, it seems like almost all people are proud and It's like saying that someone's strong, right? Mortonier the Christian psychiatrist wrote a great book called the strong and the weak my stepmother loved this book, but All those people are strong and proud Well, they're weak and ashamed in other areas, right? Nobody's strong in all areas. Nobody's proud in all areas So people may put up a strong and proud front in some things There are going to be tons of other things where they're ashamed and weak So what's the best way to quickly bond with someone right to have a common enemy Right to bemoan someone to gossip about someone. That's the quickest way to bond That's the quickest way to bond and unite a fractious people Right to unite a fractious people against a common enemy right so nationalism and Almost all group identities are primarily about what we're not Unifying to oppose an outside threat to oppose an outgroup So having hated outgroups is the quickest way to bond your ingroup So this is unique to Jews or the blacks or the Christians or the Georgians You see that especially 16 17 18 centuries When when Georgians are capable of doing it and of course, I think the third important factor will be the ruling and lease ability to navigate the great power Kind of power struggles, so you see often time. So life is about navigation, right? Sometimes there's room for assertion sometimes There's room for a definitive statement But almost always in life. You're navigating between powers greater than yourself When it comes to this live stream, I'm the boss of this live stream But most of the things after kind of go along to get along after navigate between powers greater than myself And the only way I can afford these vacations is that I'm staying for free with friends and relatives Right, so I navigate those relationships with care. I Don't want to be an unwanted guest Georgian elites siding with one power So how do elites stay in power right they form alliances with other groups so For elites to have power it helps to have a multicultural divided society so in America today the elites Largely aligned with the bottom of the social hierarchy, right? So the Democratic Party is a high-low combination against the middle which tends to vote Republican So when you have a unified public they can revolt successfully against elites So elite power depends upon a divided country where elites can make strategic alliances This is true in Georgia is true in America is true in Australia Right, so populism is always a passing phenomenon There's no great ideology of populism. They're at universities of populism. There aren't think tanks devoted to populism populism occurs when you have an increasingly unified public the unites against the elite alliance with a Subgroup in your society There is a famous historian Vladimir Minorsky who famously put that Georgians carried Islam very lightly on their shoulders And that was so yeah, it's not just Georgians who can carry Islam very lightly on their shoulders Everyone has the ability to carry their religion lightly or heavily You can use your religion as a bludgeon as a bloody flag that you wave in front of people You can carry your religion in a heavy way so that it distinguishes you from other people It separates you from other people It intimidates it infuriates other people or you can carry your religion lightly In a way that is most likely to lead to harmonious relations with others It was a reference to the fact that Georgian elites frequently converted to Islam out of expedience right so retaining that kind of Christian core belief But also looking so we do things for very mixed motives Everyone is far more nuanced than the picture in our head like we usually know people based on One type of experience with them like experience with them at school experience with them at work Experience with them at the pub experience with them in a particular activity, but people always far more nuanced But it's easier for us to caricature people as good or bad strong or weak So we draw caricatures Just because that's how the human mind works, right? We want to know if someone's a friend or foe and that's reasonably useful, right? Just to know if someone a friend or a foe Sometimes that's just the primary thing you need to know friend or foe. It's a caricature Obviously, they're more complicated than that, but as an economizing device on your time It may be just fine If you require them to convert to Islam just right so when I think back to my conversion to Judaism I didn't realize at the time but in part it was driven by my existential crisis my meaning crisis And what type of people have meaning crisis 99.9% of the time the type of people who have a meaning crisis such as me For those who are socially maladjusted we lack ordinary human connection We're built to spend most of our time with our family and with our relations And then if we have any time after that we spend it with friends Aside from work, right?  That is a testament to my own reasonably, you know good sense decision-making It was me who chose Dennis Prager just didn't happen For the sake of conversion they did so and of course you find quite a few examples of it In Georgian history My sense is that Georgians where the history on their sleeve, you know, my I grew up in my my father would proudly tell me of Misha came to Australia when he was four. He's just Started podcasting. I think during COVID started his sub-stack about a year or so ago and He's largely of doing Australia since the age of four So if you have any kind of in-group identity you have all these stories about victory against overwhelming odds every group every team Every religion has these magnificent stories about how they achieve victory against overwhelming odds You know I ever tell you about how I achieve victory against overwhelming odds mate family friend guided me through a range of monasteries that you have a map of Now Turkish territory with Christian monasteries dotted there and you know kind of pining for this moment You know when real Georgian territory and Christian territory would be Reclaimed and it feels yeah, not even talking about such sets you up. I see but so yeah, most people have a holy land All right, it's not just Jews who have a holy land All right, most people have a holy land like ties of blood and soil natural normal and In moderation healthy real ancient history almost it feels very Visceral and real for Jordan's sake in a way I'm not sure we see Yeah Okay, Misha the shorter the question the better When you're when you have a guest the shorter the question the better this is the pitfall of having that kind of relationship with history because We're not the only ones in that sense. I mean Greeks have also this kind of very complex relationship with their past Of course, so the English probably have the most positive relationship to history of any people probably followed by the Jews But the Jews in the English love their history, but I think the English love their history more than any other nation Who's have and nothing more broadly? I mean I have a lot of Iranian friends Well, you know, I would sit down and talk to them in the city that I live in there is a sizeable So I guess while loving your history has good sides and bad sides You can get very easily mired in your history. It can distort life All right, you start seeing things through the prism of The stories you've been told about your history so it can have a distorting effect It can also have a bonding effect a rooting effect. It gets you Feeling that you're part of something transcendent that goes far back in history and likely will go Forward in history beyond your own life It almost always we touch upon and community Beside Sydney Harbour, that's the Sydney Harbour Bridge up there. That's the Sydney Opera House over here Iran and it will discuss it in a sense that just happened, you know two weeks ago So a lot of Jews think oh, you know Jews are unique because you talk about history in a way that it just happened last week You know what happened to our? Patriarch Abraham or Isaac or Jacob like we have an intimate close their present present-day relationship And many may think that's unique But any group with a long history is very likely to have this I think broader Middle East You consider Georgia In many respects part of that why the brother believes have a long very long historical memory It's a relationship with with histories is is different from the more recent nations Such as the United States such as Australia I mean these derisive kind of derisive reference in Georgia that Georgians have trees that as are as old as Australia United States and blessings to Elliot Blatt is a man with history long proud history Man filled with stories of victories against incredible odds Children model yourselves upon Elliot Blatt Has some ring to it, but the problem with that is that we that also kind of makes us captives of the past Any time you have a commitment any time you have a bond is an element of capture You form a good mate Right you form a good relationship You join a community Right you join a group right with every bond there's capture, right? So ties bind and blind That's not original to me. I think that's psychologist Jonathan height ties bind and blind Very frequently when you sit down and talk to Georgia, there is this kind of longing and pining for the good old days Without realizing that those good old days were full of challenges and difficulties That the past is never this straightforward as historical memory makes it so And that is particularly And I'm painful when the level of historical discussion is not where it should be and George is a good case study for So in the Torah God calls upon the Jews to be a holy people Doesn't call upon them to be a people of historians. So you're never going to find a large in group That is primarily composed of historians, right people don't want to know objective history They want stories about how their group overcame against the credible ox You know, you sit and yeah, you go to Georgia you sit at the table everyone says toast that I historically historically Contextualized, but you also realize that 99% of what they're saying is a myth. It's a myth make it's it's it Well, most of what we say is it's a myth, right? Yeah, let's never say what we mean Mean what we say We all cling to caricatures Distortions of reality Like here I am sharing my delusions while you share your delusions It's a beautiful legend that they kind of recurred date time after time after time For all the developments in historical profession that we have had Georgian historiography is still quite quite Quite simple as a sort of means I'll say it's it's it still has Yeah, most national history is simple. It has to be aimed at an average IQ of around 100 It's a lot to learn from western historiography And that's where I you know me and my friends for example What we have done two years ago is create a new graduate history program in georgia Whose goal it is to to educate new generation of georgia students with the western model in mind So when you deal Let's you know that battle that you refer to right that famous So the western model they're talking about here really is the enlightenment model She is a great believer in the power of rationality the buffett autonomous strategic rational self basically good at heart But distorted by Maladaptive traditional folk ways Promise made is a debt unpaid says elliott black a very good point This battle of did gory where ask any torches? Another key part of the enlightenment is the idea that the world is discernible and knowable we can figure things out so Since the enlightenment life has steadily become less and less magical At this less and less mystery and magic In the world around us as people increasingly turn to science for explanations Tell you that there were six hundred thousand So jokes and you know fifty six thousand torches That is It's a fiction It's it's it's a myth And yet it is still accepted by We are powered by myths. I have a greatly exaggerated sense of my own importance I have a greatly exaggerated sense of my own profundity greatly exaggerated sense of my own wisdom I've a greatly exaggerated sense of my own rhetorical powers my own broadcasting powers Like I have a mythological view of myself in my live streaming abilities Given what we would consider serious historians right kind of People who teach at the university level in georgia recite that as as a given fact So that's the problem kind of Georgia's is is crap on one of the many problems but it is For the new generation to challenge to to pull holes in this narrative to point out Uh, the difficulties complexities of the past So there's something I was going to touch on a little later. I recently um, you know, I kind of read probably Doesn't what what two books and biographies of And all the stuff and I noticed um The closer you look um The more complex everything becomes There's a great article on espn Showing that with improved video technology the closer you look at any catch The less it seems like it catch because the more accurate the video the more it looks like a ball is always moving in a receiver's hand Now the more closely you look you know less likely it is that you know, eddie catch is really a catch And a lot of the stories we have Today and a lot of the common knowledge is is not actually it is often myth You know, there's a nice example when I read so we have to Live in a world where we have imperfect information and there will never be a time We just have to have perfect information that we you know fully know what's uh really going on fully and you know the um You know, I'd always thought the the russians had burned Moscow behind them as as they evacuated as as one small Example you would give it to the whole book on this and actually So so you know not to dive in too deep, but you're but basically, you know When I was an accident or I read um incursions biography of hitler Right, so much of what we attribute to the perfidy of others the evil of others is really an accident You comfortable streaming in public and it's more comfortable in Australia than Los Angeles. Yeah, it's much safer, right? You don't have to worry about accidentally Running into someone and they punch you or shoot you or stab you so public space is much safer in Australia particularly Sydney so yeah, a lot easier to live stream outside a lot easier just to feel comfortable and Sydney is plenty diverse, but uh, it's not the kind of diversity that makes you uncomfortable It's not the kind of diversity that fuels huge crime rates homelessness Drug addiction despair Australia doesn't have the number of despair deaths that the united states has Because what we're usually talking about when we talk about diversity is the number of black people and so Australia simply doesn't have A large number of black people, aborigines are just a tiny tiny portion of their population I Don't think I've seen one In the past 10 days in sydney Plain he makes it clear that actually the rachstag fire was not the Nazis and they're sure they're obviously something to advantage over But today I was shocked that Yeah, so a lot of things that we think of the result of evil and other people's you know maliciousness really just an accident These kind of things and so I guess you say Georgian in history his geography is um, you know primitive And maybe we should look to western models and I guess my question to you is is all history fake No, not all history is fake. All right, if you have enough reliable observers Documents, you know evidence of something taking place for example yesterday Green pay packers defeated the dallas cowboys 31 to 28 in overtime. I wasn't there at the game But there are enough reliable sources testifying to that result that I can speaking historically Confirmed that it is absolutely true everything we know today I don't mean this pejoratively, you know kind of miss you miss you just the shorter the question the more powerful the better No You can learn But you know is all is everything we know really Selectively surface to benefit mythmaking, you know for for the for the allies or for the soviets or russians or whatever. No No, all right. Not all history is fake and uh, not all of history is in service of mythmaking How should we think about that? I think that goes to the to the very core of what history is because You know to start with it is not necessarily a hard science. So But it does have hard science contained within it. So I was reading an article in Scientific American about all these new techniques to to deduce I think you know elements of blood proteins on You know ancient material and the way they get to read this ancient material is from custodians of this material using using a rubber or an eraser to get rid of dirt or smudge and then the scientists tests the smudges the the the detritus On the rubbing away of any dirt on these valuable historical documents. You test it and they get hard scientific findings about You know what was going on on that paper 500 years ago 1,000 years ago 2,000 years ago And we will know more and more so documents will increasingly be scientifically studied and you can deduce the health of the person who You know touched these documents You can deduce, you know, if they're diabetes if they were on morphine and so History is very likely to move more and more in a hard science direction and we'll have more and more historians who are experts in The science of these hard documents and what these documents reveal There are certain things that we know happen right there factual things So we know when moral to began we know when Stalin died we know You know when the poland scored Is great victories What makes I think history Very Complex is the subjective interpretation of it And that's where we so I was talking to a psychiatrist the other day and he said psychiatric theories They rarely stand up the psychiatric theories in 1950s and 1960s. They look pretty idiotic today So theories All right subjectivity don't tend to stand up well over time But hard empirical evidence Right that often does stand the test of time. We really are dealing with the process of of creating narratives and then The question arises who writes this narrative right and usually these are individuals or groups who have certain Control level right this is government or elites This is a chronicler. Let's say who writes on the behalf of the king and he selectively Chooses facts right and then writes out things that He considers either superfluous unnecessary unimportant or damaging to the king Or more recently let's say in soviet historiography, right? You You have the government that dictates the line that historians have to follow out of ideological Kind of considerations or in the book that I just finished the biography of Phil Marshall Mikhail Kutuzov you see Can I show in the book how the real person with all his complexities flaws All the words and you know things that makes him human Will be you know, we're white white watched by the soviet historians to create this Edifice of a national hero that looks great As a as a tool of ideology as a tool of kind of aspiring masses, but But it lacks humanity lacks what makes you this alive So that's the challenge, but if you are Looking at the recent kind of 25 30 years You see What we call this kind of revisionist, right? And there are some people complaining about revisionists that they are not gonna be writing history but to me Rewriting history is the part and parcel of what that is what history is about because Every time and we approach as a historian you approach a subject you're approaching it with a different human experience is different world so that reminds me of psychiatry and Psychotherapy right we have the capacity to rewrite You know painful events every time we talk about a painful event from the past or journal about it We change it we change its effect in our mind and so a lot of therapy is about Re framing recasting rewriting Painful traumas to make them less painful and generally speaking by saying These things out loud Right by letting go of our secrets These past traumas become less powerful for us So in 12th step we talk about you're only as sick as your secrets and 12th step has all these Maxims and trite corny sayings, which are really true. They're so profound There is great wisdom to that idea. You're only as sick as your secrets Right that you need to do a complete and thorough moral inventory and share it with someone else Like I found once I share something share it thoroughly That it has much less power over me and I can talk about it without my voice cracking without blushing Right if you can talk about something in a normal tone of voice It means that you've successfully processed it and you can then move on and it doesn't have nearly the thought over you As long as you know what uncle Wally did to you and you're a kid and you can't tell anyone Then it's much more likely to have profound power over you and to walk and distort your relations with You know other men who remind you of uncle Wally, but not everyone Who reminds you of uncle Wally is looking to satimize your backside, mate. So think think positive Different baggage so to speak therefore your vision your evaluation will be slightly different from the one Uh before you and that's why every generation Reassesses history and that's what makes history so unique from other fields of human ever That uh, it's a in many respects a generational reassessment takes place Um, so for example the history books that we took for granted in 1950s and 60s are no longer Um acceptable because uh, they ignore the role of women. They ignore the issue of races, right? They ignore the issue of social Factors so hence we need this new kind of narratives that incorporate This new layers But by doing so we create a more complex vision of the past And that complexity is not what humans really like. Uh, that's why those So I think you become more adaptive More efficient more skilled at dealing with life The more complex your models for both how the world works top down And how you work from the bottom up So the more complex And nuanced your models of reality then The better you're going to be able to Deal with reality and the more effective you're going to be Those national myths that simplify the story you cannot boil it down to an individual event You know kind of factor So resilient because new ones in complexity More you know make orders murky and we don't really want to Look through and peer through this murky environment Yeah, so Yeah, it comes sticking to The change in history and and myth making how has the perception of napalian changed over time?  We should just end end the sentence there You don't have to go on the shorter the sentence the better So I'm going to fast forward here to get to the majority of the Germans basically said not as it was good idea Just Okay, fast forward a minute unlike others. I like Hitler Stalin Oh, and you're really a head of state that you can pick He managed to create A narrative and almost single heavily create a narrative And Louisiana to a certain extent is still run by Napoleonic law That's how great and effect inside that becomes A legend that that that graphs the minds the imaginations of people and then still with us in fact To flip kind of the the Narrative that you're gonna laid out. In fact, Napoleon's Reputation is far was far greater Until I will say 1970s 80s and it is this new revisionist school that starts really doubling down on it so of course to start with Napoleon has a this is a One of a kind life, right? Island Against all odds. He makes it to a great school Then perseveres loses his father takes care of his family then revolution gives him opportunity to shine And then through his share So it was Napoleon good or bad depends on for whom Is strong police in good or bad depends on for whom the three strikes laws Good or bad depends on for whom in california We have ruled that if you take less than $950 you can't be charged with anything more severe than a misdemeanor Is that good or bad? Well, it depends upon for whom Who will power and genius He's able to rise to the very top And then go on a rampage of the likes of which Europe has never seen before, right? The story itself is very conducive to this myth making like this giant this Prometheus So we live in an age of narrative I just read a book on On how we have now have emphasized the power of narrative So George W. Bush when he was introducing his cabinet He talked about how everyone on his cabinet had such an amazing story so In advertising in business everyone wants to tell a story And it becomes tiresome You want to read a news article about some trend and it always begins with an example and you have to go through Three four five six paragraphs about someone This life you don't care about to get to the nut graph In paragraph seven to find out what the story is really about So narratives have power but like everything else they can be overused trying to press print their evolutionary ideals and Is defeated and an exile that like a Prometheus right spends the last few days of his life or last few years of his life on the run so I think The factual material is very very appealing And that's the name the invite book I say I get to Napoleon I got to Napoleon because of this legend because of that vision of him as a martyr fear here You know as a young kid growing in The destruction that was around me by reading about the calling and envisioning myself being in his reigns, right? I was you know in the French army fighting innocent being They power your conservative powers and all that So, yeah, that's kind of my story too. I got away from painting misery of my childhood Retreating to a world of fantasy and books. So while my friends were out with friends I was on my own at home reading books, which is probably why I do so much live streaming and blogging and Writing and reading it's a lifelong habit, but probably some of it comes from social maladjustment And so maybe the professor speaking here Also developed a loner attitude where he retreated to a world of fantasy He also touches on another thing whenever I read a book or watch a sporting event I put myself In the place of the protagonist and when I watch a movie that's kind of me up there on the big screen When I watch the Dallas Cowboys play, that's me. Who's the quarterback or me is Micah Parsons sacking the quarterback So God forbid when I would watch pornography that was me I just said Rocco Safredi's body And it's kind of surprised me that not everyone does this Some people could just watch a sporting event or watch a movie or watch a tv show Without needing to put themselves in the starring role But then as I Became kind of professional historian started looking at you realize the how nuance and complex the reality is The poland of the ruthless Operator very callous You know, he's very pragmatic he You know, he creates what we can call the modern police state not Okay, so everyone's nuanced. All right, there's people we think of, you know, great grand people They have to make moral compromises just like the rest of us All right, they They fail in some areas, you know, they're wracked by insecurity weakness fear And no one's strong and competent in everything Everything's more complicated the more closely you look everyone is more complicated everything is more nuanced Luckily, I'm here to disentangle it for you not necessarily to the extent of totalitarian system so far for Nazi Germany and Soviet Union, but certainly The foundation of the surveillance state is within all start with Napoleon I didn't know that the foundation the police state and the surveillance state started with Napoleon You you see him, right? Doing things that are very very awkward To to can it be To be acceptable to 21 and 20 Khalia Platt says when he watches a movie or a tv show He's more likely to identify with the extras. Well, I did extra work on probably 30 or 40 tv shows and movies, but When I watch these things, I almost never think about the extras 20 second 20 second on 21st century the restoration of slavery The latent racism that he shows, right? So Napoleon expanded freedom for some people and he reduced freedom for others Donald Trump probably expanded freedom for some people reduced freedom for others civil rights legislation Expanded freedom for some groups reduced freedom for other groups So all those make things of course complex and yet his reputation in yours in yours because Because of that very fact that he's a complex figure that he's not just black and white Now his reputation endures because they had such a major impact. It's not because he's a nuanced figure. Everyone is nuanced Okay on with my walkabout. Bye. Bye


Hello and welcome back here to the channel here on torque drift to take the road atlanta challenge So there is a challenge in torque drift where you are able to go against fogging junior at rotolana with rotolana Around one just coming to complete this weekend a little late to this challenge But we're gonna be trying to accomplish that stay and we're gonna be using the cars of Odi box she's and Matt fields to try and do it So we have basically all three of the competitors up there So let's go full said miss you guys follow me on all social media knowledge found in the description box below So we're gonna go so we are gonna go into this. I did run a quick test So we're gonna go into this and we're gonna run math field is vet and Odi box. She's s 14.5 here for the ANC we can't complete and beat von get jr. Here on road atlanta We are rocking the Xbox elite controller here for today's episode. Hope that was not a good initiation by my part And we've got to catch up to von Through this section and we're a little bit off course Definitely need to get more and more comfortable these cars. I think my settings are all actually weird We're gonna have to go tweak our settings real quick, and then we will try that again All right, so we did tweak our settings a little bit So now we're gonna go back here and see if we can't accomplish this Fourth gear kind of impede a little bit on von on that entry and I'm not sure we'll get it done here with Odi's car We should be able to get it done with Odi's car, but unfortunately I do not Feel that I will be able to get it done with Odi's We're gonna give it one more good full send to make sure we can try and get the best foot forward So fourth gear is the way I need to go and we just need to go full send with the car and hopefully not Hit von or impede on von on an inch on entry because you know lead car does have the right away That was I'm just getting left by the Mustang But of course the Mustang are extremely fast in real world, too. I'm getting left behind By von's Mustang here on Royal Anna in Odi's car So we may have to switch up to my fields car and see what we can do with that If now we may have to go to another car and not be able to run these and actually beat this challenge Definitely want to get those two FD crates and possibly the king of the road decal So we're gonna go to math fields car and see if we can do anything better with his car much closer on initiation Probably need to go into force, but we're managing it there. Oh, we washed out on the upper part of the hill. Oh Oh Rip we're gonna try that once again. So We are definitely closer on entry with math fields is that so As I say that we get left. I need to be on his door. That is a very dirty cut We need to be on the door of von's car If we have any hopes of completing this challenge And it looks like fourth gear will work. So we are gonna go into fourth We need to get that entry that we got on the first run with math fields this car and hopefully we can Actually complete this not I would say an easy challenge. So if you guys have completed this already I'm sure a lot of you guys have with this challenge being out since FD Shifted to early. I keep forgetting these cars don't like to short shift Actually, I think our third gear is our better gear We need to not short shift so we can actually stay up with von on the run up. It's a little bit better Lost a little bit going up the hill Kind of prevented the car from washing out this time Man, this is a very tough challenge.  It's fine. Oh Yep, no this one's not gonna do it either. All right, so let's switch up cars try a different car that We might be able to actually do it with Gotta find That big ticket car well We'll give Adam LZ's S15 a rip All right, it's shifting the third We need to shift in to third through the keyhole If we wanted to make this car work It does seem like we possibly could get it with LZ's 15 Let's try it one more time Hopefully we can stay Closer to him on that uphill This car throws massive amounts of angle yet What we do need to do is down just from the third through this section of the core And then shift back up into four All right, so I think we can get it with LZ's car He's got to make sure we don't short shift Kind of cut the angle there and then we get left here. So Not sure if we're gonna be able to do it with LZ's car either So let's change to another car Definitely needs to tune a bunch of these cars none of these cars are tuned at all for me so We might did my game just freeze Rip so after that where our game decided to Lag ourselves out and cancel. We're gonna go take a look and try the torque drift BRZ We had some good runs with this car before Maybe the torque drift BRZ will be able to take down Vaughn We definitely do not have the grip. Nope. We don't have the grips So we're gonna go back to Some pro cars And we're gonna pull out the car that I usually chase very well with in the Christos Bluise Z92 too wide But we were doing pretty well on the uphill section with Bluise Z92 So I think if we can not go into the grass with it We might actually be able to do this in the E92 I don't know why the cursor is there Apologize for the cursor being in screen Nope keep washing out the front end This is a lot harder than I thought it was gonna be oh, okay We start to only count for lead driver This is our best run so far But nowhere near That high score that we need to get in order to get that badge or I believe even the FD crates I think it was 2028 for the FD crates. Yeah, we didn't even get a I didn't get bronze So we're just Struggling to find the car that will work in our favor and try my 350 But I think the engine in this is totally changed and needs to get a good retune Yep, the 350 needs to get a full rework done on it if I'm gonna want to be able to use it in Competitions or with you guys on live streams I'm struggling hardcore with this So if you guys completed this let me know what car you guys used to complete it because I'm Struggling here at road Atlanta It's not an easy track and I feel like if I had maybe Chelsea's car or Vaughn's car I probably Would be able to possibly get this done But we just cannot get anywhere close with these cars I think Christos Blush was our best option car and we were not able to get that close. Let's pull out The BMW and see if we can get it done with this Keep forgetting that he crosses over and yep, that's not gonna work. We go full send Keep forgetting he crosses over so we need to Maintain our way over here This car just automatically wants to get super shy ways And I don't feel like this car has enough grip either we're gonna go back to Christos Blush car Try it one more time for me in this episode off It's fun to run in Christos Blush car definitely need to rework my controls so that I can Clutch kick better because I feel like that is what is my downside Going uphill here Right here, I feel like I need to downshift our clutch kick to be able to keep the car in the angle I want it to do and I'm just not able to get it right now my controls apparently at all Kind of screwed up and I do not have a clutch game so We'll send the initiation Look it really hard and hope it Comes out. Yeah, so That is the way we need to do it, but we are not anywhere near close to Vaughan So I think that'll do it here for this episode here on torque drift trying to complete the road of land challenge and Failing at the road of the land of challenge. Like I said, let me make sure you follow me Down below. Let me know down in the comments if you guys completed it What car did you use and how many times did it take you because? You can see my struggles right now are very real in this challenge And I feel like it's just me I feel like a lot of people are probably just We have seat right there washed out had no control the front end and we're into the wall So I hope you guys enjoy this episode make sure you guys follow me on social media as always I think yes come back and watching I'm your rabbit. I'll see you guys on the track