Welcome to the 26th lecture on the subject of digital signal processing and its applications. We have been discussing frequency transformations in the previous lecture. By analog frequency transformations we mean transformations from an analog filter to an analog filter. In fact more specifically a transformation that takes us from a low pass analog filter to an analog filter of appropriate nature whether it be high pass or band pass or band stop. In the previous lecture we had looked at the transformation that takes us from the low pass to the high pass filter and from the low pass filter to the band pass filter. We now need to look at a transformation that takes us from a low pass filter to a band stop filter and that is going to be a little more difficult than the other two. But in order of difficulty the high pass transformation is the easiest. The band pass is slightly more difficult and the band stop even more difficult. So today we now proceed to look at the band stop transformation. So what we are trying to do is to get a transformation let us call it HBS of S which would replace a low pass complex frequency variable SL so that when we replace SL by this transformation we would get a band stop filter with specified characteristics. What do we mean by specified characteristics? For a band stop filter the specifications look like this. Of course we always show only the positive frequency side. You have a pass band and another pass band and a clear stop band. So unlike the band pass filter I am sorry this should be the other way around I am sorry. Let me redraw this because I said you have a one pass band, you have another pass band and a clear stop band. So unlike the band pass filter we have just one stop band and two pass bands. So maybe in a sense it is complementary or dual to the band pass filter. In the band pass filter you have one pass band and two stop bands. Here you have one stop band and two pass bands. Now we want a transformation again which satisfies the three characteristics that we mentioned the last time. The first is that it must maintain rationality. The second is it must preserve stability and finally it must take the imaginary axis to the imaginary axis in a manner that carries with it the kind of behavior that you desire. That is you know the frequency axis must map to the frequency axis in a way that a low pass character transforms to a band stop character. Now then here we see there are two pass bands and therefore it is I mean it is intuitively clear that people require a second order transformation. We cannot make do, it is not going to be a monotonic transformation. There is going to be some point in the transformation where you have a movement from one behavior to another and that is going to happen only if the transformation is at least second order. It cannot be just a first order transformation. And once again we take recourse to our intuition of looking for functions that take you from the imaginary axis to the imaginary axis and there again we have LC networks to come to our aid. And last time we saw that the series LC network comes to our aid in the band pass filter and therefore we expect that if we use a parallel LC network it would come to our aid in a band stop filter. So let us see how the impedance of a parallel LC network would look. So the impedance would be of the form 1 by the sum of the admittances and the admittances are Cs plus 1 by Ls. And this is easy to simplify. We can easily simplify this to get Ls in the numerator LCs squared plus 1 and that can be simplified once again. So 1 by C times S divided by S squared plus 1 by LC. And once again we note that 1 by LC is the resonant frequency of the network and this is a positive concept. And therefore we can rewrite this expression in the form sum BS divided by S squared plus omega naught squared. And we are not terribly worried about the specific meaning of B and omega naught squared now. That will in fact as was the case with the band pass filter it will become obvious when we actually go through the transformation. Now one thing we need to do is to note that this is the reciprocal of S squared plus omega naught squared by BS. And of course it is rational. So the movement from rational to rational is guaranteed. There is no problem. So we do not need to worry about the fact that after transformation the resultant filter would remain rational. There is no problem on that count. But of course we need to worry about stability. Now stability actually follows from a very simple argument. In fact we will show that if a particular transformation is stable. In other words if it takes the real part of S to I mean if it takes if it preserves the sign of the real part of S. If it takes the left half plane to left half plane and the right half to the right half plane then the same thing happens to the reciprocal.  In other words the real part of S and real part of H BPS have the same sign. Of course strictly the same sign. By strictly I mean if the real part is 0 the other real part is 0 as well. So imaginary axis goes to imaginary axis. Now of course the fact that the imaginary axis would go to the imaginary axis is obvious because we have taken an LC network. So when you take its impedance I mean when you put S equal to j omega it is definitely going to be imaginary. So we do not need to worry about that. So the imaginary axis going to the imaginary axis is not a problem. But what we need to check is this whether the sign of the real part is present. Now let H BPS you see let S be equal to sigma plus j omega. Whereupon let H BPS give sigma BP plus j omega BP then 1 by H BPS which is H BS of S is the reciprocal of this. The reciprocal of this is sigma BP minus j omega BP divided by sigma BP squared plus omega BP squared. The complex conjugate divided by the mod squared. And now you can see very clearly that the real part of H BLS is simply sigma BP divided by sigma BP squared plus omega BP squared. Which is of course sigma BS if you wish to call it that. And now it is very obvious that when sigma BP is not 0 this denominator cannot possibly be 0. And if the denominator is not 0 it must be positive because it is a sum of 2 squares. And then sigma BP and sigma BS must have the same sign. It is obvious now. So we have proved stability for the band stop transformation as well. So now we have a very strong candidate. All that we need to do is to look at what it does to the sinusoidal frequencies. And let us indeed embark upon that question. So what does it do when you substitute S equal to j omega? H BS of j omega is GB omega divided by omega naught squared minus omega squared. And therefore this is at the point g omega L. It is of course imaginary as you can see. Where omega L is b omega divided by omega naught squared minus omega squared. And here we have a little more work to do. You see it is very clear that we now have a point of singularity somewhere on the positive real axis. Omega equal to omega naught is a point of singularity. Singularity means it diverges. The function is undefined, that point. And therefore we expect something unusual to happen at that point. We will see in a minute that that is exactly what the case is. So let us now consider the band stop transformation. So you know you have, let us map the critical points. You know the critical points are going to be a little more difficult to map now. You see let us try and visualize what it is that we desire from this transformation. If you look at the band stop, if you look at the band pass transformation. What happened there? And let me draw it once again for you. This is band stop. In the band pass transformation what happened was you had these two stop bands and a pass band in between. And what effectively happened was you had an omega naught somewhere in between here. Where it is the geometric meaning of omega p1 and omega p2. And this was omega p1 and this was omega p2. And the effect of this transformation was to bring omega naught to 0. This to minus infinity and plus infinity went to plus infinity. So in fact a pair you know this entire thing went to one side of the frequency axis in the low pass filter. And this entire thing went to the other. Now in a way in the band stop transformation we have exactly the reverse situation. So we have two such pairs of structures. This pair and this pair if you wish to call it that. And therefore what we expect is that one of these pairs would go on to the positive side of the frequency axis and the other would go on to the negative side. By a pair I mean a segment or the entire stop band and a segment or the entire pass band. So a stop band, pass band pair. In the band pass filter it was a segment of the pass band and the entire stop band. Now here we expect it to be a segment of the stop band and the entire pass band. That will go to one side and the other side of the frequency axis in the low pass filter. And therefore the infinity is going to come somewhere in between and as expected that infinity is going to come to omega equal to omega naught. That is why it is a point of singularity. So at omega equal to omega naught there is going to be a jump. It is going to jump from plus infinity to minus infinity. Let us see indeed what happens. So let us take inspiration from the band pass filter.   It is like a combination of the stop band and the transition bands. It is not exactly a bandwidth. It is something slightly different. But it is indeed a segment of the real axis from the frequency axis. That is of course true. If we do this then we can now map the critical points. 0 it is very clear map to 0. In fact let us take 0 plus. By 0 plus we mean a very small positive frequency which goes towards. So 0 plus of course goes to 0 plus. As you know from 0 plus the first point that you encounter of importance is omega naught. Now omega naught is a point of singularity. So we cannot simply use omega naught itself. At omega naught itself the expression diverges so we cannot use it. But we can use omega naught minus and omega naught plus. So let us use omega naught minus. By omega naught minus we mean a value just before omega naught.  This is the frequency transformation. So to omega naught minus the denominator is slightly positive. And of course the numerator is finite and positive. And therefore this is going to go to plus infinity. In contrast when you go to omega naught plus the denominator is slightly negative. And of course the numerator is clearly positive. And therefore this goes to minus infinity. So now we understand what we mean by omega equal to omega naught being a point of singularity. Not only is the function discontinuous at that point there is a huge jump. So in fact we will see its derivative is also discontinuous. And that is why there is a jump. A function could be discontinuous but its derivative might turn out to be continuous. In that case you do not have an infinite jump. But here we have an infinite jump. So it is more than just discontinuity. It is discontinuity in the derivative. The seamless kind of singularity.  We must divide the numerator and denominator by omega i. So omega L is B divided by omega naught squared by omega minus omega. That is how we write it. And therefore as omega tends to plus infinity, omega naught squared by omega tends to 0. 0 plus if you like. And of course omega tends to plus infinity. So this whole thing omega L tends to 0. Now again you may ask whether it is 0 plus or 0 minus. It should go to 0 minus. And therefore we need to write here 0 minus. Now we have the critical point mapping very clearly before us. Now this critical point mapping makes it clear that omega naught is a point where we have trouble. So it will be difficult for us to show both the segments all in one figure. So let us show them in two figures. That will be easier to show. So we will take the first segment of the band pass, the band stop transformation and omega naught somewhere here in between. Now remember omega naught is a geometric mean of omega p1 and omega p2. So it can be somewhere in between. And omega s2 is going to be somewhere beyond there. So you know we say omega naught plus or other omega naught minus. We go from 0 to omega naught minus. And 0 to omega naught minus is carried, so this is omega. This is carried 0 plus. 0 plus is carried to 0 plus on omega L. As you know, you know the expression, you have already worked this out. Omega p1 is going to go to plus 1. That we know from the band pass transformation. We have worked it out. The reciprocal of 1 is 1. So you see omega p1 will go to 1. Omega s1 is going to come to another point beyond plus 1. So it is called that omega LS1. And omega naught minus would go to plus infinity. Therefore we have this mapping for the segment between 0 plus and omega naught minus. This is the frequency mapping. And of course here too you must not forget that the dependent variable is carried as is from the band stop filter to the low pass filter. The tolerances are carried as they are. The nature of the passband and stopband are carried as they are. Here too you must not forget that we have two passbands and therefore in principle you could have had two different tolerances for the two passbands. But then when you put down the specifications for the low pass filter you need to choose the more stringent of the two. Whichever demands more that must be put. And the other would automatically be satisfied. If at all they happen to be different. If they are the same there is no issue at all. As far as nature goes you do not have the you know the luxury of having two different natures in the passband. The two passbands must be of the same nature. Either equiple or monotonic. And of course the stopband gets carried as it is. So that is for the segment from 0 plus to omega naught minus. Now what happens for the segment? From omega naught plus to plus infinity. We will just squeeze this part. Omega naught plus as you know goes to minus infinity. We have already worked out for the band stop transformation. That omega p2 goes to minus 1. This is easy to verify. And therefore omega s2 is going to come to a point. Omega sl2. And of course plus infinity is going to come to 0 minus. And therefore we have this specification being put down for the low pass filter. Plus is one little word of caution. If you look at the frequency transformation here. This or if you like this one. If you recall in the band pass transformation. It was omega squared minus omega naught squared divided by B omega. Here this is not exactly the frequency transformation is the negative reciprocal. And that is not surprising. Because the reciprocal of one by the reciprocal of an imaginary number. Has the reciprocal magnitude and the opposite sign. The sign has been reversed. So plus 1 and minus 1 have got reversed here. That is the point of observation. The reciprocal of an imaginary number is reciprocated in magnitude. And the sign is reversed. That should be noted. These are small. And that is why you know you have to be careful. That you know the plus 1 and minus 1 roles have got reversed. So omega p2 now maps to minus 1 not to plus 1. And omega p1 maps to plus 1 and not minus 1. That should be clearly noted. Anyway it is a minor point. But we have now understood the transformation. So now we have the totality of the transformation before us. And we can see now that you know we can put down the specifications on the low pass filter except for one important detail. We have got the specifications on the positive frequency side and the negative frequency side. But they have to be symmetric. Magnitude symmetric and phase anti-symmetric. Phase anyway we are not putting down anything at all. So it is only the magnitude which is of concern. Now again the symmetry is there anyway as far as the pass pan edge goes. The pass pan edge is plus 1 on the positive frequency side and minus 1 on the negative frequency side. The problem is with the stop pan edge. Omega SL2 and omega SL1 or omega LS whatever you know whatever you want to call it LS or SL. Now you see these the mapped stop pan edges may not be the relative of one another. Stop pan edges omega LS1 and omega SL2 may not be negative of one another. So we have to do what is harder to do here. We take the minimum of mod SL1 and mod SL2.


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From the outer reaches, they came bearing the knowledge of what it takes to properly record or voiceover audio and together from the center of the Vio universe, they bring it to you now. George Wittem, the engineer to the Vio stars of Virginia Tech grad with the skills to build, set up and maintain the professional studio studios of the biggest names in Vio today and you Dan Leonard, the voiceover home studio master, a professional voice out with the knowledge and experience to help you create a professional sounding home Vio studio and each week they allow you into their world, making the complex simple debunking the myths of what it takes to create great sounding audio, answering your questions, showing you the latest and greatest in Vio Tech and having a dandy time doing it. Welcome to voiceover Body Shop Tech Talk. Voiceover Body Shop Tech Talk is brought to you by voiceoveressentials.com home of Harlan Hogan signature products, source elements, remote studio connections for everyone, voiceactorwebsites.com, where your Vio website isn't a pain in the butt. Vioheroes.com become a hero to your clients with award winning voiceover training. J. Michael Collins demos when quality matters and voiceover extra, your daily resource for Vio success. And now live to drive from their super secret clubhouse and studio in Sherman Oaks, California, here are the guys. Well, hi there. I'm Dan Leonard and I'm George Whitton. I'm glad you remembered.  So, George, you and I had been doing this show for exactly 10 years. You know, the origins of it were, you know, people keep asking us about.  We're like, yeah, that was the idea. Exactly. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah. I mean, if you think we sound like car talk, that was one of our archetypal shows for how we decided to model this show. We, we wanted to capture that kind of jovial personality, the back and the forth, the back and the forth. And the, and the, and the, and the, and the thing and the that. And we wanted to keep it light and fun, but it's still extremely topical and really helpful. So I, that's how I always thought of car, car talk. I learned a heck of a lot about cars listening to that show in the 20 years up until they stopped the show. So yeah, you know, I think the important thing that people need to really understand about what it is you and I do when it comes to home voiceover studios is especially since, you know, we both listened to car talk. And that's the idea of, you know, aside from teaching people how to do it properly, it has to do with troubleshooting. And if you've got a technical issue, you know, I remember Mr. Soman, my power mechanics teacher in middle school, back when they called it junior high school, explaining how do you troubleshoot a lawnmower and going through the thing? Well, if it hits this, it's that if it's not this, then go on to the next thing, go on to the next thing. When you've worked with so many different units and so many different setups and all those different things over many, many years, generally, when someone says, I got a problem with this, generally, we just were able to jump right into it and say, well, it's that, although it helps if we actually hear it. A lot of times people will post stuff on Facebook and it'll say, I got a hum, or I got a buzz or I got something like that. It's like, well, is it a hum or a buzz? Because there's actually a difference between those two or somewhere in the middle or both. Exactly. God forbid. Oh, that's and it's fun when you say you've got, you know, you got two noise, two sources of noise in the background. You know, one's here and one's there and it's like, well, one what's one, one might be your fridge. The other might be your your neighbor's Harley Davidson. But, you know, those sort of things happen. But if you really want to learn how to do a home voiceover studio, right?  There's really only two places you can go. One is Mr. Wittem over there. Yeah, I'm over. Wait, no, over there and you're over there. And that's why so you can go over to George the dot tech. That's where all my tech stuff is where I can you can book support with me. I have an automated scheduler that works pretty darn well. There are self service items like a sound check. That is if you don't know what to do on my site, which is a common question. You have a lot of things. What should I start? Start with a sound check. At least let's find out how you're sounding to begin with. But there's a lot on there to check out. There's also a lot of free content, some some some tutorial, training material, FAQs, a blog, a lot of stuff I've accumulated over the many years that we've been doing this. But Dan does the same over it is place and that's. Oh, there it is. Home voice over studio dot com. There it is. Yeah. You know, as George was saying, we've been doing this a long time, you know, and we're going to talk about this in a couple of minutes, the fact that. You know, maybe we didn't know everything when we started, but we've seen it all since then. So generally, there's a there's a way to do things, but still every every voice over studio home voice over studio is different because every voice is different. Every room is different, and we want you to get it right. So if you go over home voice over studio dot com, as we were saying, we really do want to hear your audio. I've got my specimen collection cup there. If you scroll down to the bottom of the home page and submit a raw file to me because every time you people, well, you know, I add I've got a manly box box and I got this and I've got, you know, an Avalon preamp along with that. And then I add DBX 286 and then I use RX seven to clean up all that mess I made with the other stuff. And I want to be able to hear the raw sound so we can get it clean up front. And if so, we can get your sound sounding the way it's supposed to sound or what it's supposed to sound like whistle. I've been using that a lot lately. I'm glad to hear that. Indeed. And I always give you credit. Thank you. I appreciate that as well. And I always give you credit when we talk about stuff that like, you know, George, Joey says this, you know, and I think that's the great thing about our partnership with the show is we've had the chance to to really see everything that's happened out there. We've, you know, when we first started the show, I mean, if people go back and look at episode number one, I mean, I was hoping maybe we could show it tonight, but if you go on YouTube, you'll find it Ewebs EP number one, I think. And it's somewhat out of focus. My mustache is a lot darker. I think I actually have a little bit more hair. George has a few more pounds on him. It stopped and started six or seven times, which we re-edited it back together for the YouTube. But 10, 10 years we've been doing this. And the thing is, is we've learned a lot. You know, a lot of people say, well, you know, can you how much can you teach me while I'm standing on one foot? Well, it's not going to happen that way. It takes time to really learn this stuff. And because we've been doing it a while, generally, we're the first place you should go if you want to learn how to do it or if you've got a problem or someone saying you have a problem. You know, we're the guys to go to because we have learned these things. So I challenge George to come up with we're going to come for the each year we've been doing the show, something that we've learned. So each of us have come up with five. So I figure we'll alternate here and I'll let you go first. What what have you learned from the time that suddenly you found your, you know, from going off movie sets when you were doing sound there and the other things you were doing into doing home studios, what have you learned? Probably knew this longer than 10 years, but this just seemed to be appropriate that the a lot of the boosts that you buy come lined with acoustical foam and how often that it is woefully inadequate to tune the sound of the inside of that booth foam just doesn't cut it. In most cases in a voiceover booth, you know, I the very very first voiceover booth I would have ever been inside of and really listened to was probably for Howard Parker 20 some maybe 20 years ago in New York City and honestly didn't know any better, you know, and I don't think any of us did, you know, we just put up a 416 in there and he would talk into it like this and do movie trailers because because he was eating the mic. We'd never really heard the room. We didn't really hear the acoustical issues. So foam is definitely a biggie. If you're going to use foam, it's got to be so thick at least four inches in most cases that you might as well. It just takes up so much space. So anyway, I'm finding that foam is one thing that I've been trying to avoid in most cases whenever possible. Dan, what is the first on your list? First on my list and this is the exact same also acoustics. Yeah, this is so important is number one. And I've always been saying it's like 90% of the quality of your audio and so many people try to cover up that stuff saying, well, I can fix it with this or I can fix it with that. You can fix it by getting it right up front. Acoustics, you know, and acoustics is two different things and people tend to get very confused about this to us. Acoustics is preventing exterior noise from coming in and what it takes to do that, which is basically literally impossible. Yeah, I mean, especially if you live in a noisy neighborhood or you're in the landing path of a major airport or even a small one for that matter. It's very difficult to do, but isolation is very, very important to prevent as much exterior noise as possible. If you can drop the exterior noise by like 10 to 15 dB that may be enough to get you where you need to be. But the other part of acoustics is what we were just talking about and that is internal reflection. And really and the things that I've learned about that is the louder you talk, the more the acoustics of the room come into play. Because when you talk louder suddenly hear the rest of the room. But when you talk in the way you're supposed to when you're doing voiceover from the proper distance from your mic and your levels are set right, which I'll get to a little bit. It should sound like you and nothing else. There shouldn't be any reflection and how you do that. It takes individual tuning for everybody's voice. Everybody's a voice in everybody's space. Exactly. My second one is just about keeping it simple, which you've heard us talk about a million times on the show. I keep hearing and experiencing it over and over with clients of all different stripes and levels of experience and income levels, et cetera, et cetera. The ones that often shock me with how clean their recordings are really low noise levels like below minus 70 almost always they are plugging a condenser mic into an audio interface and that's it. That's it. There's no mixer in the board in the string. There's no or in the chain. There's no outboard preamp, no compressor, no, et cetera, et cetera, no tube, of course, anything. And that is what's getting the cleanest recordings and that is our noises our enemy as sound quality bar goes up and up and I know some people think maybe it's gone down because of home studios, but I argue against that. I think sound quality bar is staying or not going high not going higher things to the video game industry. They're very, very picky about sound quality. We are getting great sounding recordings with simple, simple systems and so don't overthink how much gear you need, don't overspend, talk to us first. Yeah. Then what's next on your list? Well, I was going to comment on that is that, you know, when I first arrived here out in LA and started going into people's houses when we were still allowed to go into people's houses and you and I both do this as we go in there, we start unplugging everything.  I found that people were literally 10 years behind when I got here as opposed to what you and I knew about what was going to keep things simple for people and you unplug it and now listen to it. Oh, that sounds great. Yeah, duh. And no offense to all of our radio engineer friends because I've had my own radio background, but a lot of the times those studios were installed or set up by a radio engineer who is trying to get a broadcast sound quality studio out. That's what we're on the air. That's right. It's a very different thing. My third one is Mike placement and I know Dan's going to talk about Mike technique as always. Did we get to talk about that yet, Dan? Did I step on you about the Mike technique? No, we already mentioned. I think no, I didn't. Well, we talked about it a little bit, but that was my number Mike technique. This is dovetailing Mike technique. Mike placement Mike placement. I have found that as Dan said, as you back away from the Mike and you provide when you're further away from the Mike, you have to talk louder when you talk louder and you're further from the Mike. Guess what? The room is much more of a factor and I found that the Mike placement situation in a lot of small spaces is a little bit different from what people are used to in larger spaces. So we've been using the that classic hang 10 thing. There's still a picture on Google from Dan Friedman. If you look online, you'll see this picture of Dan with the Mike. You know, it's that is not a wrong suggestion, but I find that it is not working quite as well in a lot of really small studios, especially with low ceilings. So that is something that I don't even think I quantified really well until a couple of last a couple of years actually. And I found that, you know, you really have to work your Mike placement very carefully when you're in a really small space, the sweet spot that you have to work with is quite a bit smaller. Yeah, yeah, just just a fist.  Yeah, well, I have a big space out here in the studio. Yeah, because we also do the show out here. These high ceiling, we're doing high ceiling, but it's all acoustically treated. But if you talk louder, you get a little bit of room about the room. So that's an important thing, but it sounds natural. That's the beauty of it. Yeah, exactly. Like if you're doing a video game, you could back away from the mic and it would sound kind of okay because it's that's what they would, you know, I'm hearing actors find out from voiceover directors doing games. They'll say, can you please back away from your Mike? And a lot of times the actor has a shock on my game right at him and they go way back here and they're like, well, like I'm actually only have two feet to move. I can only go about this far away. So it doesn't work. You can't do that. So that's been kind of funny. Let's see what that calls about. I don't know. So I'm going to mute it. Okay, good. Dan, your turn. Yes. My number three is setting levels. I mean, we talk about this every week because nobody seems to understand it.  I know it's here somewhere probably got knocked over when we were. Oh, here it is. This guy. Keep it handy for just such an emergency is bug horn like horn one said VU meter. It's the thing about it is that what we use today is the exact same thing. It's just digital. This is different scale. Yeah, right. But you know, it goes up if you don't want to go above zero, but you want to modulate probably and I think this is, you know, after years and years and years of really listening to people's audio and seeing that they do you want to at least consistently modulate to minus nine and peak somewhere between minus six and minus four to make it even easier. On the on the digital VU meter, always in the green, always in the yellow with an occasional flash of red or if you're on audacity, you flash of orange. Yeah, don't freak out if it taps into the red meter once in a while. That red, sometimes people think that red means dead or clipping. No, it's zero. That's clipping. Right. So if you don't go that high, it's not going to be a problem. But setting that and and what you do on your interface is try and find the sweet spot on your interface where that's going to, you know, where you're going to be consistently doing that on the scarlets. They've got that great little halo around the the gain dial that, you know, always keep it in the green and occasionally a little flash of red. It'll be fine. Um, you know, and again, the meters in your software are going to be in there. Learn to use that always in the green, always in the yellow with a little bit of flash of red. That that simplifies it down as long as people consistently do that. Your level should not be an issue. You want to have a nice fat signal going in. You know, that's what engineers want. You know, we had Mark Rao on last week and he was talking about don't do any processing or anything. We'll talk about that in a second. What's your number four? My number four is dealing with proper ventilation, how it requires a large return feed in addition to the air coming in, even in a larger space to maintain temperature. I learned this the hard way on a couple of studios where the ventilation was set up to bring in cool air or bring out, bring in air, but it would stop cooling and there's a reason why that happens. Now, what I didn't realize was that I'm looking in most residences. You only see an inlet in the room. There's only most rooms in a bedroom, for example, you'll see a vent in the ceiling, but there's no return. The cold air usually in like one or two places. Yeah. So how do they do that? And then I figured out, oh, it's because there's a gap underneath all the doors and that's how the air escapes under the door and into the return. Well, when you have a down proof air tight space, that doesn't work that way. And so if you really want efficient cooling or good air circulation, you have to have a return away for the air to get back out. And if you want it to be as quiet as possible, that return should be rather large, bigger than the inlet. So I learned that over the years and have helped to make some better ventilation as a result. Right. Dan, what's your number? Well, yeah. And the intake always needs to be at the floor and the exhaust needs to be near the ceiling. Yeah.  That's an important one to learn because we've seen people build booths where the circulation is completely reversed. Why is it so hot in here? When to use processing is my number four.   It's not they're not being always listen to in some big studio with, you know, with 20 and speakers or whatever. So don't over process your audio if at all. Everybody's talking about RX, you know, eight and all these different things that they use. And then I always ask a question. Why? Yeah, you better know why you're using it if you're using it. Exactly. Why do you know how it works and do you know when to use it? And you know when this, do you know when it sounds bad? Yes. That's a good question for a lot of people. Do you know when your your noise reduction tools sound bad? Well, yeah. And usually it becomes pretty obvious. So he's fascinating, though, the people don't hear background noise because it's usually something that's always going on in their place of residence. Yeah, a refrigerator for starters. You know, I don't think you're blind.   And if it's something gets annoying, it's like I'm putting down that noise. If you're a lucky, let's go that way. Not everybody has that part of their brain. Exactly. What's your number five? Well, I have found that back to this kind of dovetails with mic placement and stuff, but sitting down in a low ceiling booth, which if you have anybody with a prefabricated booth is almost always going to have a pretty low ceiling. It really improves the sound. And likewise, if you can raise the ceiling of your room, which is far less likely than you'll be able to do that, it also improves the sound. So we often worry so much about what's on the sides in front of us, the sides and what how that's treated.  That's okay. They can handle it there. They're advertising on YouTube. I see their pre-roll ads all the time. They're okay. The ceiling in a whisper room only has like an inch of foam on it and then it's just wood and those are notoriously resonant and booming when you're when you're up near the ceiling. So if you're having that issue, sit down on a stool or get a tall stool, at least at least try to lower yourself at least five, six inches if you can if not more and notice how much better it sounds. Have you found that to be true? I'll do that with people.  How's the sound now? It's a little distant, but very resonant.  Are you talking to the right side of the mic? That should be number one. Are you talking to the right side of the mic? Why does it sound so far away? Oh, man. Anyway, but yeah, I find that, yeah, you've got to be able to know where your sweet spot in your booth is. Let's see. My number five. Well, you know, I want to talk a little very quickly about the things that we've learned from doing this show. Ooh, how much more time? We can do the whole show on that. That's a big book right there. Yes, it is. I mean, we've gone through so many different different platforms to do this show. We started with with Telestream. Yeah. I think we started with Ustream, Ustream's online thing. It was just like a website. Right. Then we went to Ustream Pro, which was an application. Right. Then we went to Telestream Wirecast, which was what Ustream Pro actually was built out of. Right. And it was cool, had a lot of nifty tools, but we had so many technical problems, weird problems. So from Wirecast, which was all Mac-based, we took a huge shift and went to Vmix. Vmix. And that runs on. The beast. Windows. It runs on a PC. We had a custom built PC just to run the show, and I will say, because it was custom built for that job very carefully, very carefully picked the components, it's still running beautifully and we suspect it will. But we're not using it now. Are we down? No, because now we're using StreamYard, which is super duper, so I can sit at my desk and do this. Don't have to put up all this stuff. And we are using StreamYard. Yeah. It makes it a lot easier. So anyway, we've got a couple of minutes left in the segment.  But you have a fun little story about the Don, if you want to. The Don. The Don. Yeah. Yeah, I was stumbling around on LinkedIn. Brent Allen Hagel, who's a very good trailer voiceover producer, had a great story posted on there because he had just recorded a demo for Sky, which is Don's youngest daughter. And is that right? Sky? Yes. Lisi is the older one. Yes. So Sky, and she was getting rich. She was cutting her demo. And I was like, oh, that is so cool. That is so cool here. And just in the conversation, the chat, I typed up a little story. I thought this would be fun to share. Oh, he was saying how he recorded sky through a Manly Cardioid reference, Mike, and a Manly Voxbox preamp. And he said I did that on purpose because that's what her dad recorded on, which I thought was really, really fun. And then I said, you know, at Don Lothentain, he would have loved the Manly Voxbox. I am sure when I first worked in the studio, he didn't have a preamp at all. He had his Manly Cardioid reference or reference Cardioid tube microphone plugged directly. Well, throw a cable in the ceiling and all this sort of stuff into a massive Mackey 32 by eight mixer. You've seen them in venues all the time in bars, you know, for bands, this big thing.  And when I realized it was from the dimmer panel that in his studio that controls all of the lighting in the house, the entire house had this massive electronic dimmer system, super high tech, especially for when that house was built. I mean way ahead of its time. But the problem was that that thing was right behind the mixing console and we were getting all kinds of crazy buzz. So I was working for a boutique pro audio dealer that sold tube tech brand stuff. I think it's made in Denmark or something. And so I got him a tube tech channel strip and a year or two later I discovered that his Manly Mono Mike preamp, which was like their one channel, very simple Mike preamp that they I believe still make. It was in the gear graveyard, aka his sauna. Yeah, actually, I just I seen the door to the sauna many times. I never looked in there and he said, go check in the sauna. He was looking for his record player one time. And there was the Manly tube preamp was sitting in there. I was like, wait a minute. I took it home, a little bit of research thought, well, might be a bed dead tube. It was I replaced that tube, but we never reinstalled it in the studio because well, the tube tech was working great. So we just kept using it. Now that Mike preamp actually lives in the SAG Foundation, Don LaFontaine voice over lab. It's in the rack. It's in the in the console there. And maybe you can even get to use it if you're in there, but you know, here's the here's the wrap on this whole thing. It's funny how do you not had a tube preamp, which we always tell you guys don't use one. If you hadn't had one that had subsequently had a failed tube and then Don had to figure out what to do. So he sort of patched around it. He wouldn't likely have. I wouldn't have likely been called into a studio in the first place by engineer Stephen Afton. I never would have been asked to come in and fix it and then I would have never met Don and his family. So thanks, Manly. Thanks for making tube equipment and thanks for having something that had to fail so that I had to be called in. It was fate. I guess in the summer. In a sauna. I have to remember to tell that I always we see at the trade shows we see Ivana Manly and all these other vendor owners that they're boozing. I'm sure she would get a kick out of that story. So off the top. All right. Well, we got a ton of questions that have been written in and people on Clubhouse and you want to get to those. So we're going to take a break and we will get to all those fabulous questions that we love to answer right after these messages. Hi, this is Bill Farmer and you are watching voice over body shop. It's great. Let's face it. If you're a voice talent, not everyone in your family or close friends really understands what you need for your home voice over studio. You want a what? 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Well it's that time of the show where we get to thank our lovely sponsors Source Elements the creators of Source Connect which they created so long ago at least 15 years ago back when ISDN reigned supreme. Well I'm here to tell you ISDN essentially is dead doesn't mean the technology is not in no longer functioning but it is pretty much left production voiceover world because well all the last year during the pandemic everybody went home including the engineers and the producers so they didn't have their fancy ISDN hardware boxes and ISDN line connections because they weren't at home. So Source Connect really stepped in as the era parent and so for that reason you should definitely consider getting at least up and running with it to the point where you're comfortable with it. The beauty of it is you don't necessarily have to buy it out right you can do a subscription or you could even just do a couple of day passed to test it out or use it for that big session but if you want to get going you really want to get a good start and get off on the right foot go to George the dot tech slash SC to get my my little kickstart on how to get it up and running because yes there's quite a few steps involved and you want to get off on the right foot I got a video on there you can get up and running and learn more quickly how to use it but I would recommend you get going on that because it really shows that you're playing on a higher level and just we also want to make sure your studio is ready so let us know send us a sound check and or a specimen cup drop and Dan's specimen cup so we can know for sure that your audio quality is ready for source connect anyway thanks again source elements let's get to those questions yeah hi this is Carlos Ellis Rocky the voice of Rocco and you're watching voiceover body shop and we're back and we're back and we're back all righty well tons of questions here which is what we love because we want to hear from you guys that's what makes the show work let's start with Jeff Holman has a question you wanted to bring up yeah because this was something that came up on our Facebook group and it was a really good question I think that's where it was and so I here we go he said I upgraded to the latest version of twisted wave and now none of my RX 7 effects come up with in the correct window so you couldn't see them they all come up with a basic window with nothing in it so the plug-in window loads and there's no RF RX window in there when I try to use mouse the click the window there's no sensitivity fader there's no controls nothing also I don't see a preview button a compare button option it's just there they're gone I only get a generic window with the options preset merge tail drop and play apply and apply and close that's it what happened how do I get my RX 7 effects to work in twisted wave again what has happened has this happened anybody else now here's where the details get very important I'm running the latest version of system wave twenty five point two on big sir on an M one Mac book air thanks everyone now this would have taken me a while to debug I don't think it would have been in any way obvious to me I would have probably told me to go off to Isotope to get this troubleshooted and there were a lot of comments that were mostly wrong until one fellow popped up with the right one so I wanted to give credit or credit to do it was from Glenn Gutierrez Gutierrez and Glenn says if you want to run plugins that are not optimized for Apple silicon or your M one Mac yet you need to run twisted wave in Rosetta mode I discovered this with ozone which is also by Isotope I had to quit twisted wave I did get info on the app and then when I open get info I see a little checkbox open using Rosetta and that fix the problem and I tried this myself and right on the money because twisted wave is now twenty five point two is now natively for silicon it means it breaks plugins that are made for Intel so you got to watch out for that at least there is a very feasible work around until all those other plug-in companies catch up so that was a that was a golden one well played there one I find people rely so much on these plugins you know it's like this plug-in is great that plug-in is great yeah but what's wrong with your sound that you need a plug-in I mean if I mean if you're doing audiobooks and all those other things clearly you've got to have you know that type of processing but it's very very specific what you need and all these exotic things none of this stuff was designed for voiceover it's all designed for making music you know if you're watching the Grammys last night it's like well that's what you use that for that's what you use that for not for voiceover keep it clean the biggest trouble for people is is once they have a tool like this and it becomes part of their flow and then all of a sudden I have to do a source connect session if they've been leaning on post-processing tools to get the audio to up to spec they're going to be in trouble so they got make sure you're not only relying on that to get the quality where you need to be let's go to clubhouse hey clubhouse Danny what's going on all right we got Shannon O'Brien from San Diego California Shannon you're up oh hello how you guys Dan George thank you so much for all you do Danny thanks for bringing me up just quick questions for source connect does it need to be hardwired through an ethernet cable or is Wi-Fi acceptable it depends I have a analogy for that go for me do you need to wear a seatbelt when you drive a car and yes and I use that I use that analogy because could you drive your car and get from A to B without a seatbelt on of course would you prefer that you had one on at the moment something went wrong yes that's how it kind of goes when you're using Wi-Fi it may work beautifully in every test that you've done and every time you've talked to your friend is a voice actor with source connect and you chatted and said it's working great and then that big session comes up and then halfway through it starts dropping out like crazy at random because the kid across the street fired up his brand new super mega killer Wi-Fi router that blasts the whole neighborhood too much energy and your Wi-Fi goes crazy so yes it is highly highly recommended in fact I'm pretty sure some productions mandated I think they will actually tell you if you're ready for the session you are hardwired and portmaps which is another thing they recommend as well but they the ethernet connection is really preferable for low stress source connect sessions yeah I was talking with Robert Marshall from source elements couple weeks ago we were set you know resetting the our source connect here knows stuff yeah you know that guy to you know and it helps to know people but you know he's like okay let's do the port forwarding on this he goes are you running into a you know into your into a modem well it's like you know my Wi-Fi motive is there another modem that goes directly to the internet like yeah plug it into that didn't need to do anything suddenly is patched around the router exactly and that and that worked really well the thing is is with the Wi-Fi you've got to open up all these gates to make sure it goes through and that's that's why you need to do that there's a question here from Amanda Brandt that I I I know I can answer she says that can you do ADR for a big production studio in your home studio or just in a determined location studio I'm not sure what they determine the question okay well I know that for a fact because my son Jacob was dumping a movie for HBO the last couple of weeks and you know because of COVID my we didn't want to be going into a studio and they're like well if you have a home studio we can do that oh we just happen to have a home studio here it's nice to say yes yeah and and ran you know this microphone into a scarlet because the the road didn't do very well with what their system was but just a clean line and you know they run the the video on zoom and the direction on zoom and they just record it you can see them stop and go okay we can nudge it over just a little bit you can hear what you can see what's going on but yeah you can you can do it at home if you've got a good sounding home studio they're going to want to check it of course to make sure it's up to their standards so all right back to the club house who we got Danny coast to coast reporting from New York Torian bracket Torian Torian hey Jordan Dan great to officially virtually you both fab you too welcome yeah so I'm wondering because I so when we plug in our mics to our interfaces for our computers you can usually adjust the recording level right on the on your DAW and your computer settings but you can also adjust the gain on your interface your DAW wherever you do that so I was wondering if we could talk about the difference between the two and you know why we even have the option because they seemingly have the same function hmm not a pretty good question yeah go get down yeah well okay so the the game dial here you know say on a 2i 2 is usually right next to the mic where you plug the mic in and you know if you've got a two channel it's going to be you know channel one if you're plugged into channel one we have found that you know on most units if you set it to about three o'clock that's a good place to start you know as you can see have it there at about 75 percent because remember you know most of the stuff was designed for making music and when you're singing you're singing a lot louder and these interfaces and preamps don't have to drive as hard for voice over when we're talking very quietly using our indoor voice you need to drive it a little bit more so generally if you're on a PC you know sometimes I say you know just set the you know the mixer level in the PC to a hundred percent and then adjust the gain from from your interface in say if you're using Audacity you can adjust the level in there but that also adjusts it you know from your from your west as I think is right yes there's some large shenanigans on the windows side because depending what sound driver you're using the windows own sound control panel may affect your recording level and that's kind of the prone kind of audacity I don't like that it lets you override the recording level but I do like that it does show you what the level is it has that slider so if it's out of whack at least at a glance you're going to see it in audacity you'll see if that thing is not all the way to the right so make sure you're doing all of your gain adjustments during the recording from the preamp or from the interface really that's what you want to do yeah okay quick question here that I can answer because it's addressed to me for Dan you with your M1 Mac mini which we are now listening to and watching me on right now did you have to buy or any or add anything to be able to connect things that use USB and HDMI connections I know there's one HDMI on the new Mac mini but no USB ports well there are USB ports there's two us there is two regular USB ports and then there are two Thunderbolt ports what I what what I did is and this this one I think is actually broken but you get a port with a Thunderbolt cable on it that goes into the back and it gives you the ability to plug USB and other USB stuff this has actually three USB connections in it and I actually hope yeah I just bought a new hub that also has an HDMI out on it so now I have to HDMI outputs and more USB outputs so yeah you if unless you're also you're not running a lot of peripherals you don't really need it but because you like I said you got two USB ports and you got two Thunderbolt ports the Thunderbolt ports will carry all sorts of stuff but if you're running a lot of stuff out of there it only has a maximum oh I happen to have the instruction card right here it it will only put out three amps max so you've got to have you know you've got you may have to plug it in to your computer to get extra power and not into into a power supply power supply into a power supply into a wall wart three amps is quite a lot yeah you have to be running a lot of outboard gear to yeah but if you are use you're gonna have to plug it in but they give you the ability to do that well I will chime in real quick and say that I too and running the show tonight on a Mac mini M1 this is really the main voyage of this computer live on a show and as we do we just we just go for it there's this is there is no dry run and there was a few gotchas with some video capture issues like I had to get a different ultra studio recorder called the 3G which uses Thunderbolt 3 I had to what else did I have to do start one or two different programs and just the usual gotchas with the silicon like we found out earlier with twisted wave and plugins there are things are going to run into but it's been working beautifully I have an older very early generation Thunderbolt 3 hub from OWC other world computing and it's a little overkill because it's well it's a little overkill but it does give me four USB ports another Thunderbolt port an HDMI port and I am using well actually I'm using a lot of them I'm using dual HDMI monitors one on the Mac mini and then one plugged into the Thunderbolt and so I'm getting to use two displays and it's working great now if you're a total massive power user and you want to have three or four displays you may have some limitations with the new M1s until the next generation comes out but it's been perfectly fine and put my hand on top it's right in front of me let me put the mic at it shall I it should be dead silent it doesn't make any sound at all in fact I put my hand on it and it's warm so I know it's alive but it's not in any way hot it's really freakishly amazing anyway we talked about that a lot sorry chat room clubhouse actually we got one more in the clubhouse queue from Dustin it looks like Danny and I'm using an M1 MacBook Pro so there we go yeah but I just have a fan however all right yeah all right Dustin Frank from Las Vegas you're up Dustin yeah and I'm on the fence about buying one so George helped me a lot with my first audio book a couple years ago and I've done several since then so I want to thank you for that awesome service I've always made specs never had a problem since using your video so I just wanted to ask I have a 416 to a Scarlett solo to my Mac mini I think it's a 2014 I'd like to use my rig on clubhouse do you think I can connect into my phone is that what you're doing right now oh okay well you do need to get a lightning to TRRS dongle they may have included these with some of the earlier iPhones I don't know maybe they didn't but Apple has always sold one of these things it's just another one of the many Apple dongles Apple the dongle company that our drawers are filled with here we go and this is literally what's being used TRRS so it's it's a mini connector like if you have any older Apple AirPods or not AirPods the actual wired ones the plug has a different kind of connector on it than a normal like headphone connector has a another ring so it's tip ring ring sleeve it's got four little metal rings contacts and that's the so you need a cable that can speak that language and then get one of these little $30 a lightning adapter dongle boob abs plans made by Mofi I think and and then you need to the tricky part with this with the with connecting it to the Scarlett is then you need to figure out another way to patch it into the microphone it's it's it's not straightforward with the Scarlett because you can't create what's called a mix minus with the Scarlett and that is the ability to send audio out to Clubhouse receive the audio from Clubhouse but not have the audio from Clubhouse feed Clubhouse that's a loop and that's a little bit challenging to do with Scarlett but Dan and I and Danny and Dan and me all three of us are using roadcaster pro mixers which had a built-in interface specifically to connect to a mobile device and it works beautifully because it also has the USB I'm sorry the mix minus circuit do you need a $600 mixer to do this no I'm sure there's some ways to hack it with some the right adapters and a little bit of bailing wire and chewing gum and experimentation but this is this is the way we're doing it and it's pain-free so if you're really serious about this you want to start hosting your own Club houses and really make a go of it having something like the roadcaster pro is a pretty wise pretty wise move yeah there's some performance clubs that are fun that would be nice to have some Mike technique ability rather than the old tiktok but put it up to your mouth well you know you could also try is the the centrance there's a zoom mixer that our producer Sue just mentioned the zoom thing it's called the f8 which zoom is it to tell me my ear oh she actually you guys can hear us on the on the Clubhouse can't you and then I have a mic port pro 2 from centrance and this will connect by lightning to your phone but be careful I've heard that not every device that has a lightning adapter will actually talk to Clubhouse so like the l8 got you okay yeah so not auditions yeah not every one of these lightning lightning port devices will talk to Clubhouse this is something you have to experiment with but if you're using the Apple adapter that I described earlier it will work with Clubhouse so have fun and good luck thanks everyone alright on the list what's up next let's see here Polaris 3000 here says on the topic of setup at home does anyone here that would be us have a good example or common traps to avoid for a person setting up their first home studio yes rewind the show and go back 10 things through that yeah on a home studio on a budget again acoustics are number one you can avoid all sorts of problems if you set up in the right place and there's no microphone and there's no digital interface you know on you know over you know under a hundred dollars it's going to change the way you read copy you know I mean people like I got to get this microphone I got to get this great piece of gear it's not going to make you a better voice actor and that's the most important thing with any home studio you got to be good at what you're doing and then have someone professional show you and teach you how to do it exactly right and get it set up right you know following those those three basics that I talked about earlier acoustics my technique and setting proper levels so as long as you've got a clean chain of you know a good mic and an interface and a good computer in the right program there's not a whole lot else to it except that your acoustics have to be really good very true acoustics is like the lighting of audio absolutely you can't expect a great professional looking photograph with crappy lighting and just like that for voiceover you can't expect a great sounding recording without good acoustics yeah I love this last question we got here though from from Benson Blake I'll let you read it and then we can both answer it all right then to ask what's your take on using the Cloudlifter to boost a mic signal should a 416 that's a condenser shotgun mic be plugged directly into the focus right Scarlett with the volume up or boosted with a Cloudlifter signal for a better for a better option for auditions and recording so Dan what's your take on that it doesn't work you don't you don't need something like that because the Cloudlifter is designed really and it was originally designed for ribbon mics to get raised again on dynamic and ribbon mics not active studio condenser mics so what you want to do is if you try to put that in line to a 416 the 416 will not sound anything because there's no phantom power going into it it doesn't pass phantom power no it doesn't do it and therefore you don't need it you know if you had a you know if you're using an SM 58 or something or an R20 yeah those are great for podcasting and maybe if you use those for voiceover I'm not a big fan of those but no you can't use a Cloudlifter on a 416 and why would you want to 416 has great output and with any reasonable you know interface like a 2i2 or an AGO 3 from Yamaha or you know the audience or the there's so many good ones out there what's the Cloudlifter for it's for one when you're using a ribbon mic oh oh yeah the lip mic maybe one of these two is clean here I will patch it in and we'll actually listen to myself talking if you want to see and hear these being used at least see them being used I'm not totally convinced you're hearing them yeah is on the show Ted Lasso oh really I started watching that last night it's a great show and whenever they go to a football match in in England the announcers are on these just kind of fun to watch for us radio geeks yeah that's a ribbon mic and they have very very low output and they really need the the boost of the Cloudlifter so what's why if I ever use this mic the Cloudlifters living in case with it all righty ten years we had been doing this show and I think you know if we do it another ten I'll be seventy four years old but I'll still know what I'm talking about we'll have USB ports USB seven ports wired into our brains by that time it's true yes plug in anyway thanks for all your questions guys and thanks for being there on Clubhouse and watching the show every week we're going to take another quick break here and we will wrap things up and start the next ten years right after this this is the Latin Lover narrator from Jane the Virgin Anthony Mendez you're enjoying Dan and George on the voiceover body shop hey there it's David H. 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Today we're gonna be going over all the Air Jordan releases set to drop this month in May So let's go ahead and get started with the first shoe and we have the dark royal blue Air Jordan one low KO Retail on these is gonna be a hundred and twenty dollars. I'm very Looking at you look at me on the side. What are you gonna say? $65 and going once going twice nobody bought Come on The high it looked like it'd been knocked out already Like those already don't do as well and then the low tops like they try to bring them You know the the energy around the union. No, but that is either I think people are gonna be able to get these on sale. Is this on canvas? Is this like a canvas shoe? Yeah, so they blew it with that. I mean Yeah, it's a pass for me. It's a pass for me pass No It's an even in the store.  I'm like don't try to get serious now Okay, so this is a women's drop the Air Jordan to cool gray But they got like a light blue element to the sneaker as well I'm interested to see how this one goes because we got all this energy around the Jordan twos and all the different stuff But at the same time, there's a lot of good colorways that are sitting. We got classic Chicago, but I think in the girls I think they did good on this. It's a clean. I think they did a very good job on this a clean shoe the grades I told you before they've been doing a really good job on the gray colors For women, it's a great shoe if anything issue darken up some of the colors for it But I mean I'm colorblind, so who knows But so when it comes to this one, it says retail is gonna be 175 bucks and I think that's too high I think people are gonna be like I'll wait get it on sale still get the shoe But it's a women's shoe You can't come out with a women's shoe for 175 dollars and it Jordan to a Jordan to no It's got to be like a hot collaboration for everybody to go crazy besides that How do you feel it like 135 135 that would be cool But then that's like talking about 20 years ago type price, but I'm saying then women to buy it Yeah, we're not gonna just rush out and spend a hundred seventy five dollars for some not for those No, I think that's gonna be another catch them on sale. So it looks like May so far You know people are chilling, but there are some good releases, but it's not It's not the fault of the people but that's good though fault of the shoe for their pockets Oh What is that coming out of $89 a hundred and seventy five, what is it? Yeah, yeah, we'll just okay. We're gonna leave that shoe all right next up right here. I hope you show that All right next up right here We have the Air Jordan one high og white cement So, you know like on the Jordan threes you got the white cement print They put it out on the Jordan one and they did it kind of like all over the whole shoe not the whole shoe But vast majority of the shoe with the problem is they did too much. I think well Okay, so the color blocking is actually like the Chicago color blocking. It's the same color block. No But the problem is because of the print it looks like crazy, right? It looks like too much to me I saw these in person the other day. Did they look all right? They're actually I feel like they look better in person than they do cuz right now I'm not filling this shoe a hundred and eighty retail. They're crazy I think that again if you brought it down to like maybe a buck fifty right, maybe you might be all right that there's a Fine line with buying the shoe at a right price. Yeah, and thirty dollars will kill the whole shoe Yeah, and right now. I don't see it. So Jordan ones have been sitting Jordan fours are hot right now Yeah, and that is everybody wants those and it's kind of hard to get you gotta find good websites Different places like that which brings me to tell you guys about poison because they have a great website and something that you Guys definitely got to check out. So let me explain that to you guys real quick Poison is a game changer when it comes to shopping online and they've been popping up more and more lately So you know I had to give them a try and I ain't gonna lie They got some pretty good deals on their website and don't worry They pride themselves heavily on authentic products and fast and easy shipping even though this is a company That's based overseas They still provide free shipping to us here in America and that's something that I really love because I know that can be Definitely very expensive, but to be able to factor that into your purchase and knowing that you can get free shipping That makes things a lot easier when it comes to the checkout process So when I was scrolling through the website I had a hard time picking which shoe I wanted to purchase because they definitely had some good deals and for me being a size 13 I actually found a lot of good options And I'm definitely excited to show you guys what I got and I'm gonna have my dad unbox it this time I picked up a pretty solid pair of shoes from their website and I am not mad at all So I'll let you do your thing and we'll let him do the unboxing for you guys I Used to be gentle to don't cut the top of the box. Oh Okay, okay the shoebox on the inside. He's like, I was scared now I'll never do this Let's use the norm is sitting on my high chair All right, what we got explain it to us. So this is great actually great packaging No, no, because I've seen stuff that come through and they've got the bubble wrap everything so they take care of it They don't have to top in the bottom of it. Yeah, so that that's actually good. I really like that Okay, we got this. Oh, we got the shoe What is this wait first off what size Okay, I just wanted you to do the unboxing part. All right, no, they did good on that Oh Is this a 14 just for me guys remember It's a good looking shoot But in hand it looks better that's the thing again I said I love before you can get these shoes and you can have those overseas websites and businesses that you can still get it for You get free shipping So now you got the plug in those different places So for me checking out this spot and being able to get something from there I think it was a really good place to go to yeah And I definitely will be getting a lot more shoes from here because I found some good deals on the site But I just had to make sure I got these in particular Have you unboxed so we can see what do you rate? No, so look it I hated on these shoes a little bit I did do that But I'm gonna recant my statement now. He's like is that a 14? No, it's no It's a good looking shoe But I was just saying at first it seemed like it was too much. That's too far and this was too open Yeah, you know, yeah, but uh, it looks good. It looks good shout out to poison appreciate you guys now Let's take it to the next shoe. We got a lot more to go Oh, yeah, we gotta get back to that. We still got like 10 more shoes to hit long as there's no more Jordan 37 lows Nothing but not do that Do not do that next up right here We have a mains drop the air Jordan to neutral gray and this is a hundred and eighty five bucks clean shoe similar to that Oh gee Chicago white red colorway. We've seen some other ones lucky green different ones They just kind of switch up the gray and they could do the different colors on the shoe No, go ahead. Go ahead. Like I was gonna say I hated a little bit on that green on that I like this even more ones, right? I like this more with the gray I think it feels in real nice. It's a good-looking shoe. The color-blocking is great Yeah, I think that one eighty five that will still sell but the problem is they're not these are gonna sit What do you mean? These are gonna sit I don't see these like just selling out because I'm partial to the grays Maybe but I think this is gonna be another one of those Jordan twos it sits be okay Let's take it back way back back into time. Nobody bought the two Exactly So let's think about it the candy pack when those came out you don't know if you remember that but remember like this was like Oh nine or something right? It was like a yellow color way a red color way a green color way a blue color way And it was like all over the same color. They had the white and gray ones just like this It had premium ass materials It was not because I used to have them on it up and they were super nice I used to love wearing them and it looked like these and it was like the silver anniversary series and stuff Great job. Nobody cared. She didn't do well at all the different things So I don't see this repeating and doing something different I think he's gonna repeat and do the same thing it did in the past I don't think so. I think people on the twos now I think they've changed it. They've changed colors and everything and people been on them I've been seeing more people wear twos now. I like twos. We know that everybody like well I don't know if they all know but we know I like to write but the thing is the world and the masses of it They just it's an underrated shoe. It's a sleeper So because of that you can get a great deal on that type of sneaker Maybe catch that outlet or get it for retail and not have to stress about it So you think 185 might hurt them they need to come there like like we're gonna think about it Hey, maybe I should get something else. Maybe I should check it out. It's close to 200 You know saying so, I don't know. I think it's still a good shoe now. These ones right here These are actually really really nice. This is the airship. So they have the OG like white and red airship I have those like up there and I don't know if you can see them Okay, so like that's Jordan's OG airship shoe before the Jordan one came out and that was the actual shoe that got banned So now they're kind of like bringing that life back into the sneaker. I think it's when you have this one right here coming out I don't know exactly. I forgot was on the back, but when they do this shoe they do a one materials They do so good when it comes to the sneaker. So I don't know. Let me know what you think about these I think the shoe gonna sit. I don't see nothing hype about it.  They're hard to get they don't make that many pairs all expensive. I don't know. Maybe it's just hype. I Don't know. I don't see the now you say it. Okay. I'm from the picture I can't tell for materials, but I will say this. I don't see the build-up on the shoe like The combinations and the colors and everything else like that. I don't see that and so to me It looks pretty plain Jane and so when you're going in it Go ahead. Keep talking when you go into like 140 150 you can kind of do one plain Jane But you can't like on those twos those twos have way more structure in that too feel the feel the leather on those Right, but this is the dad shoe, but it's a og still It's still a og the leather is very nice. I like nice, right? Oh But that's what I'm saying. So look at that and when you see that they come correctly comes to that back in the day The shoes did come out with this kind of leather. They was really nice I'm saying you can tear this shoe up and the leather was still holed up the shoes very is built very well So I get all that But 140 bucks. They're not 140 is cool, but I still say This look like You know the guy or 50 should be wearing these Really where might rock the retro the vintage all the different stuff. No, no No, I don't know. Okay.  They got the different stuff going on They're they're doing like it's a nice shoe, but I'm just it's not enough for me for me All right, let's talk about a shoe. That's not nice There's another they're killing the game for the whole month right now. This is a yeah killing the game in all the wrong way Air Jordan women's yellow snake skin. No, these are terrible. No, do not do that. He's at 190 190 Come on. Yeah This must be the month. They don't want to sell those shoes.  I promise you there's some good shoes. We just haven't hit him Like halfway through the month wait to the tail end it gets better In this shoe, I Jason Tatum one barbershop the barbershop We're good. We're good. Okay, right there. Okay. Finally. We got one Shoes that I really like this is a great colorway. Looks like the materials is good They can't go wrong in these right here. This is a great-looking shoe. So these come out at the end of the month How you got the shoe already? See in hand, this is a great-looking shoe. Hey, it's not they can go wrong So that's a cop for you. This is a cop for sure So, you know, it's crazy the thunder and lightning pack. Oh These was like a thousand dollars. They got up to like thousand and twelve hundred fifteen hundred dollars Yeah, and The new era of sneakerheads coming in with the Jordan fours are hyping up all the models But it's wild because the prices don't reflect all the hype like these are going for 30 40 bucks over retail right now, right? And they haven't came out yet usually like when it's like way before the Reese's what happens like it's like 500 bucks But it's crazy to see that sit and then the lighting's you can get them for a really good price And I tell everybody like this shoes in the lighting's They might be a little hard to get but at the same time even if you don't get them You can go to another place and still get them for a good price Well, I need a size 14 if y'all remember. Oh great So for some reason I didn't mention the spider-man ones the movies coming out soon And you know they got some more Jordan ones that are coming out as well check out the colorway I'm sure a lot of people have been talking about this sneaker all the release information is gonna be down below in the Description when it comes to this shoe, and I'm looking forward to getting my hands on these Let me know what you guys think about them down below in the comment section I know I forgot to film this during the time when we were filming with my dad But it's okay because we still got it here in the video And I'll make sure that I get his opinion when we actually do the review video So stay tuned for that because I know he's gonna have some very interesting takes on it Now let's get back to the video right here. What you think? Now we back to the same thing What That's the same thing as the red ones. Which one is the fire reds. Yeah the fire is similar. Yeah But it's different because why is it different because it's lucky green So this is women's release 200 bucks is the retail. No So they did uh, they did like the pine green fours. It was a pine green I'm pretty sure it was pine green when it comes to the sb photo. I'll grab those one too Just talk about that one. I'll be right back almost say this Most dudes well, I ain't gonna bash women But a lot of dudes will buy girls they shoes and they're gonna spend 200 dollars on those I think there's some other shoes out there. Oh, that's nice See this look at the difference in this shoe Okay, but look but listen to me listen to me. Oh, listen to me. What this you got to hold it up So they can see what so these Are the fours right right the sb fours hyped up top tan shoe of the year all the stuff leather on these is nice These things. Yeah, but When you talk about affordable options different things that look similar all the different things Those look like these.  How do they not? It's white gray green. It's the same shoe.  They go together. That's what I'm saying. Look at all the different detail If you can't afford this for five six hundred dollars, you're gonna be like, oh, I'm gonna go get this one For 200 so for the for the consumer. They're gonna see that and it's also another good affordable option But when this come out would it come out it? Uh, I forgot what the retail was. You have something like that to so that's my point So if it came out at 200 or 225 even 225, I don't know. There's more detail It's a good looking shoe. It's a good looking shoe. I'm just saying I'm just biased for women paying $200 for shoes I could see they're so small. You're right less material Okay aj1 ko Bleached aqua. So remember we saw the low tops, right? This is the high top the actual like ko version Uh, it's just is this uh, I think this is a men's drop Uh 150 bucks canvas. I think it's gonna sit canvas like the chicago og colorway They didn't sell that well like they kind of sold out ish kind of you know, I'm saying But they're not even hitting for that much now still years down the line So this one outlets easy cop if you like it grab it no problem, but wait I would say wait on the shoe just because You probably can get it really easy. You know, I gotta have no issues. You might go on sale No, like that's only like one two wears. It's over. You're gonna mess it up Okay, so this one is actually clean the air Jordan one low ogex coconut milk No, but it looks like I can't tell by the materials on this one But it looks like I can't tell that's a 40 and overshoot sway This is a clean shoe though. I just said it's a 40 and overshoot You know what I like it has a black bottom So it's you don't have to worry about it getting dirty and everything you drive in everything All the different things this is a clean shoe 140 bucks Summertime, but it looked like canvas. I can't tell that's not leather. I'm gonna try to find some other pictures online. That's not leather But uh, yeah, what do you think about it? Don't do it 140. No, I don't like it. What I'm batting a thousand right now I got one good pair of shoes that all these shoes coming out Gardens for the month. I think same situation find a good deal grab these for around a hundred bucks At the outlets for 99 and it's a great shoe for the summertime You can't go wrong with it if you're looking for an entry level sneaker head type shoe I think this is clean. I think this is a good shoe. It's not the best air Jordan one ever I'm not saying all that. I love how people always like to think of oh just because I said it's a clean shoe I'm not saying it's the best shoe ever But I'm just saying it's a clean shoe. It's cool. Like I think that's a good entry Like if I see somebody rocking those I'm like them is clean. I think that that Swish thing that they got up there at the top by the laces that part right there. It might be removable That right there, you know, they'd be doing all that extra stuff. Yeah, that's too much. They did too much It was clean if they left that alone, that'd be clean. Okay. What about this next one? See, what are they doing? They figured if we just put air Jordan one on any name Then it's gonna sell any color on a Jordan one. No, it doesn't do that So we got the Jordan one high og craft right here No, okay. So one thing I can't say one thing I can't say is when I do these type of shoes materials Production everything is great great great great. But then what do they do? The colorway that's where we met blow it. So that that's always the issue right there This one. I don't know if this is I think yeah, so this is a men's drop It's gonna be interesting to see who wants these. I'm gonna pass on these two I'm not a big fan of them. No, I'm I just feel bad because what they're doing right now On the last few of these shoes they messed up the Jordan brand In my eyes, not everybody else. Is this the worst month? This is the worst month that we have ever done and we've been looking at shoes for a long time in our life These next ones is hard these next ones is hard that last pair is The good vibrations. Okay. These next ones is hard. Okay. We got any high air Jordan 14 Okay, so this was like a lower mid cut version and then they brought it into the high top version We've never seen this before on the high top version. So og heads They're like, yo, I need them. You know this already know high school colors for you You're gonna be like, yo, no, it's a good color way like even the whole thing like the sole the bottom everything looks good Oh question. Do you guys think I don't really like orange? But do you guys like blue and yellow or blue and orange better? I know he's gonna say blue and yellow. Of course blue and yellow. I would say that too, but sometimes the blue and orange be sticking If he can it can But no, the blue and yellow is way better. We talked about it before blue and yellow the gator stuff. Yeah That's how Okay, so lany 14's retails $210 for women's shoe. No, this is a man's shoe. Oh, I was gonna say the thing is retails 210 bucks So you're gonna go up to like 400. No, not immediately. You don't think so. I think that I think the colorway is cool. I think it's cool. But like I'm not I'm In time it would do that. I could see that in time But not immediately but everybody don't rush for 14s. No No And then like all these new sneaker heads and everybody that follows the stuff on tik tok and the trends Like they're not gonna even bat an eye about these and we're gonna be like great. We can grab these right But at the same time, I'm gonna be like damn 210 Like it's gonna be that kind of thing. So I think it's gonna be like Do you really want them? Do you want to have these in your collection type situation? Can you get a good or you make a way and get them a little bit under? Yeah, and like or I found a pair that was worn once and somebody sold them to me for 140 bucks or whatever You know like right but yeah, I don't know. I think it's a great shoe I like these a lot. Uh out of the jordan 14s We don't see this this often with this color right and to bring that back In the high top version like they've been doing. I think it's super dope. There's a lot of amazing 14s Like, yeah, man white u and c blue like oh forest greens the brown white and browns. Oh, there was some We need the 14s to come back There's some good 14s. Have they ever did an all red 14? Yeah, the Ferrari and they had the carbon fiber on the bottom and then they had the black They did uh this version where they had red on the back with the black toe. Um on that same thing So, yeah, that's that's pretty much it though. Make sure you guys uh, tell them what you gotta say before we go Oh my instagram is popping. Oh my god. Oh my god. Y'all need to hit my instagram is popping I don't know what the name is My youtube is cracking too. No, I will just say this Uh, be careful what you buy.  Yeah, don't listen to him that much either by the way, no But but i'm just saying like on some real stuff like We here to just give you all uh our reviews and whatnot, but every time We come real of how we see the shoe We not hype bees and nothing like that. Some people just hype everything up. We don't do that We don't like we don't like it and then maybe taking your troll like you be trolling on the video All these are hot and people be like, yo, they think this is dope But yeah, I appreciate you guys as always I'll have all the links to his instagram and youtube and everything Pop it down. And you know what though? I gotta say this real quick I'm dj's dad Hey, we gotta uh, we gotta let them know we also posted behind the scenes stuff on his channel as well So subscribe to his youtube channel if you guys want to see any behind the scenes stuff We'll show you guys some exclusive looks on the inside everything his perspective of things His uh, his reviews on sneakers and his ratings. They're very interesting. Some of them is good All right, we gotta go. We gotta get out. Hey, remember pick your poison All right I would never let you down before you go. 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