Hello, and welcome to everyone beef up super chat catch up for episode six to six five It's the one where we talked about the year. I'm gonna check out some messages. You guys sent to us if that's all right Well, it's all right with me. I'm okay. I'm all right with the audience I mean there's no reason not to just get started and the first one says Taylor Swift is greater than any Disney Star Wars or MCU Taylor Swift like in terms of like reach or popularity or Maybe they're just being our in talent Compare when it's like we're talking about music versus filmmaking like his uh In terms of directly comparing their quality is a Taylor Swift single better than Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania I guess the broadest sense possible probably yeah like if without getting it in terms of just the general hmm Is it is it nicer to listen to that song than it is to sit through two hours of Ant-Man? Well, probably Talk about Godzilla minus one we did Oh, we did really enjoyed our discussion. It was it's my favorite movie of 2023 It is one of my favorite movies of 2023 Name there were some real bangers in 2023. Yeah, good stuff. Yeah Had a dream where e fat band freeing e for peeing and booping himself without cleaning up afterwards. He just wallows in his filth any truth to this Oh, my goodness. I would never do that. He would never wallow in his filth No Well, why would you know I don't even see why someone would do that in terms of why would the Inconvenience the inconvenience of just getting up and going to the toilet for five minutes outstrip the inconvenience of poop just constantly meeting your nostrils And piss just maybe you're asking old He he goes to the toilet.  Hi rags Hello Also, watch paranoia agent. It's really good Also playing near replicant also get destiny on again. I feel like that's worth five dollars lull You've got to get him on to have a debate about interstellar Oh, that would be fun. We got to do an Oppenheimer as well. I never happened Oh, yeah, that's right I I didn't know about that one as much because I imagine that it might start to delve into the whole historical accuracy as a conversation which um, it's Far from what my interest in that film is as a film I don't know what gave that impression considering his criticisms. He talks strictly about pacing and character Yeah, oh well in that case. I I just get the impression because interstellar is obviously purely, you know fiction, but Oppenheimer it just seems like it's something that can end up happening when you talk about like biopics Oh, so now it's fiction to navigate by a love. I see Also, um, I would if destiny wanted to have a stream or conversation where we talked about like historical accuracy in works of fiction Uh, or in movies and stuff. I think that would be pretty interesting I I again, I'd just be more interested because Oppenheimer is really one of the best movies of last year Yeah To think so negatively on it. Hmm Uh, hey massive smaller, please get rags and bring you to read the next couple super chats No reason why I just like hearing them talk. Thanks and play little nightmares. Hi rags Hello, I can do that Yeah You guys can take turns if you want I'm posting them as they are so I can't help you if you don't understand them All right All right, this is one of them here. That's the next one. Yep Okay Love me some pat welcome fellow long man I'll be patrician tv. Yes. He was very welcome. He is long. Yeah when he first came on his second appearance was a bit More memorable, I guess in terms of events because that was the uh The famous probably going to be voted one of the best memes of uh this year at e-fab Well, that was a good one. Yeah, that was a good one Um, I guess uh rags if you want to read out this one All right recast lord of the rings a serious recast a wacky recast in a cringe recast Serious like patrick stewart is gandalf Wacky like arnie is gandalf in cringe recast like george cloney is gandalf First off, I don't agree with the premise that george cloney as gandalf would be cringe And also no way that we're doing an exhaustive one for all three of these categories No, we can we can do a few though. Like if we had to do a photo, right? Five characters for the three categories So let's start off with our protagonist frodo baggins. Okay played by elijah wood in our universe So what would be? Okay serious recast Sean asked it. No, um, let's see Ooh as would that be allowed, uh, but no, let's see. Who would who would be a serious good recasting? Of frodo baggins would timothy shallow may match Ooh, maybe Yeah, I think that I think that's uh, I think that could work Yeah, I think that would work All right, uh, now we go wacky isn't Oh, uh, oh dany devido. Yeah. Yeah, dany devido is our wacky recast him as frodo would be amazing I want to see him grimacing in pain and falling over all the time Um, cringe recast, uh, Jared leto Oh, that would be cringe cringe recast You could put that for eddie of the Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing. I was gonna say like jared leto gandalf.  Yeah Oh, there was some ultra cringe potential in that So who else could be a really cringe casting for uh, frodo frodo cringe casting for frodo Uh, patry pascal what just because You just can't see it that's like if they said, you know, he's really good talent. He could probably pull out You just feel like yeah, okay, but like what the hell? cringe cast for Him, but they they don't do any of the force perspective. He's just a normal-sized person, but everyone Yeah, and maybe we have him we have him specifically overacting Like he has to over overact, but he's normal-sized and he's frodo. Yeah, right. Let's do gandalf Uh, all right. Patrick Stewart. I mean, I would agree with that as a serious, uh choice I would agree as well I almost want to find a different one because that was a suggestion. Well, I mean You know, also, I don't know if he's a good enough choice these days. Um, he's a bit old now Oh, all right. Well, okay, right. If we were taking that what about uh, answering charles dance What about charles dance? Yeah, charles dance So I would consider what you both just said I would more than likely go answering hopkins gandalf and then charles dance saraman Um I'm happy to fill those slots with those forces. Yeah I think my concern with anthony hopkins is I don't know how how physically capable is he to do a lot of the gandalf stuff That's true. Uh, because it's funny how I say Patrick Stewart is old pretty good shape for his age, but of course old is not the problem. It's the Activeness of them and I think Patrick Stewart is you know, you can tell from his latest stuff It's like he is getting on Anthony hopkins acting is totally fine, but his physicality is probably not Well, I think anthony hopkins would make an amazing bilbo That could work. Yeah. I think I am in fact, I would I would agree with that fully. I would happily move him over to bilbo That would be uh, it'll be cool.  I'm probably just gonna think comedian. What about like, uh, steve martin See, that's like wholesome wacky bilbo is bull edgy wacky Yeah, I'd like to add your bill bearer is uh gandalf Now we need cringe gandalf Uh jarred leto We can't do jarred leto for every one of them Well, no, but we didn't do jarred leto for uh, who did we do for cringe for uh front of gandalf? Jarred leto cringe would be like legolas. He'd be the cringe legolas Well, we said he applies to basically every character you could you could totally see I was not allowed for cringe actors. So he's utterly exempt then. Okay. Uh, okay, so gandalf cringe casting. Hmm um Gandalf cringe casting I think about who played riva No, that's too you gotta it's gotta be within the realm of possibility. I think oh, okay. Okay I was like jarred leto.   It was like and you could see but interviews being like I feel like I could pull it off. Yeah, yeah, because people loved him and um You know So, uh, let's see try to think of older actors that like pop up in things and people like, uh Yeah, that's what i'm thinking about too and I really struggle. No, maybe the cringe comes from them being uh, like Super over cast and things um Oh this Hmm Cringe. Yeah, this is actually a tough one cringe casting gandalf Especially when jarred leto is not on the Yeah, when he's not allowed Wonder if anyone's made a list of cringe actors So Top 50 most uncanny. Oh my god. The rock is gandalf Oh, that's a good answer. Yeah, I like that answer That it yeah, yeah Or like he like refuses to fall down the bridge at kaza doom because he's like gandalf wouldn't lose like that I'm the star. Oh that they put the gone for half the movie Him killing the balrog has to happen like immediately after he can't let anyone believe that he's defeated or anything Oh, yeah. All right. I think we found out gandalf. There we go cringe gandalf Okay, so uh, we'll do three bull characters. Yeah, we'll do our goat. Okay, so serious I was about to say chris hemsworth. Oh really were you? Yeah, I was yeah, I think he could do it I think so. Yeah, the man's got some chops He does and he uh fits the bill for the rugged handsome Hero, warrior man. So yeah, he's in an aragorn isn't that expressive in his role Um, he's got a few moments, but he's mostly fairly stoic and reserved So I think chris pulls that off particularly well even oh, maybe we should save it then Maybe we should save chris hemsworth for a role Where it is a bit more I don't know. He make a good aragorn There's a part of me that wants to that knows his incredible range with like You know comedic timing and stuff, but he would make such a good aragorn. Yeah, let's keep him as aragorn Let's keep chris hemsworth as aragorn. Um That's our serious recasting and now we have our wacky recasting as aragorn Unless mola you had a different idea in mind or no, no, I was happy with that. Um, okay, so a wacky recast, uh um Hmm can be a tough one Remember I hate in christianson Yes That would be Let me wacky Or maybe we should save him for our barman Hayden christianson is barman Good Yeah, I've been on the young side, but not bad not bad um I mean, oh wait, how old is he christianson right now? Oh, I guess he is. Oh, yeah, I guess I'm losing. Yeah, you're right Yeah, you're thinking of him Yeah, he's 42 That's why I was thinking about him as a as a yeah, that would be good. Oh, well actually I I guess thinking about the dynamics between boromir and ferrimir. It's hard to think of hayden christianson as the older elderly brother, you know Um, I'm the urge as long as you put him up against somebody who is younger. Yeah Yeah fair fair we're gonna do fringe for aragorn We haven't done we haven't We haven't made a choice yet. Have we for uh for wacky. We didn't do wacky. We got to do wacky aragorn, right? But was that Hayden christianson? We're talking about We were discussing whether or not he'd be born here Well, you started to Yeah, that was okay. All right. Okay. We want to settle on him for aragorn. Yeah Well, he could be our wacky casting that'd be fun. Though.  Yeah, everybody would just say are again He squeezes into the cringe spot. Yeah, because he's a bit over. Yeah, but he would also be but he's also like At least be fine. He would Yeah, absolutely. Yeah Oh, wait a second. I just thought of something for um For gandalf harrison ford would probably make a an interesting gandalf I don't think yeah, I don't think that's impossible or anything Because he can if he can channel his inner like indiana jones cheekiness I think that there really could be he could be a good, uh, gandalf But carrying on carrying on. Uh, well, do we want to do boromir then? Um, you know domino gleason would probably make a really good gandalf too I'm trying to think of which one. All right. Who's next? Um, yeah, let's think about who next. Um What um, what films are you thinking of rags when you say domino gleason? I don't know. It's probably uh, like a combination of a weird combination of in bruge and harry potter You mean brendan gleason brendan. Oh, oh brendan gleason. I'm sorry. I had a feeling because double is way too young to do gandalf Yeah, might might probably brendan gleason Yeah, he could be a fun gandalf as well Um, maybe instead of doing just two more we could just throw a few randoms if there's any on your head for any of the three categories for any characters Uh, okay, so um So I was thinking wacky golem casting a terry cruise Oh Terry cruise would be an a mate instead of a tiny little white creature.  Let me ask you this. It would be a really cringe galadriel other than you know uh Miley Cyrus Yeah, I guess so because if they because you could imagine they get her for like Well, so the reason why I feel like Miley Cyrus could actually happen is because they're just like she's breaking into acting more and more and the She's a big name and you know, she she vaguely could possibly Look kind of like galadriel, but then the the fact that she's Miley Cyrus.  They're just like that's a good idea, right marketing You know what I What role would you put james cordon in? Oh, let's go to this the cringe category for sure Elrond make him Elrond.  Can you imagine james cordon is Elrond? I can't it makes me laugh. Just imagining him at the council of Elrond. Oh my god Um Let me see what other okay, what where would you put? Oh jason mimoa would have to be gimley, right? I mean that could probably be good I honestly think it would kind it would work right if you could make uh, John rise davies If you could make him work then jason mimoa would be like he's already kind of got a Somewhat dwarfish look with the facial hair and the long hair.  Yeah If you look at you know, the people who played the dwarves in the hobbit, you know, it's uh, yeah Yeah, that's true. And plus I think that you could you could make him look dwarfy You can actually commit to the dwarf look which they only did for like Half of the dwarves in the hobbit, but um cringe are when casting megan fox Yeah, that would be ultra cringe. Yeah, the first time they get to rivendell. She's on a motorcycle. Just wiping it down Yeah, yeah I'm trying to think of who is we've not been thinking about serious. Oh, you know what? Oh, well, I think a serious recast of elrond might be robert downey jr Uh, hmm Hmm Maybe Not impossible Now my let's see. Um This is actually really interesting to think about the potentials and possibilities Because I want to have someone who is this is different but can give the same vibe Yeah, um, because I think like like I think that robert downey jr could give the hugo weaving vibe while still being distinctly different um Same thing with like jason mimola and gimley, you know and john mersday But like we would need good pairs for Yeah, like mary and pippin would have to be a good pair, you know that are kind of similar but They have to be you'll good enough at acting to to have their different personalities show through I would say that we have provided many answers to this question. Yeah, now we're getting now and now i'm starting to get too invested in the in the and the um In the in the potentials here. Yeah The thing is I it would it would also probably be interesting to have What if we took some of the actors from the original because now it's 20 years later and then recast them as like literally different roles because we're starting to get to the point where You know big old moronson's an old guy now Um, you know sean beans an old guy now. Yeah, like yeah, like aragorn or vego could make a great They it in and probably so could sean bean so Having them In different roles would be interesting. It'd be trippy on the mind too with how familiar we are with the movies yeah I rags moeller and fringy my first live e-fav after spending the last two and a half years catching up on past ones from the beginning Thank you for everything I'm glad you're being one advanced you went on there. Yeah, and with every day that passes we make it even longer This never stops big old fun never ends Uh, hey massives. It's been a great year for me and a great year for e-fap. It's been almost three years in brackets E-fap one three five since I became a toxic broodling Thanks for all the informative and entertaining discussions debates and fun streams also play little nightmares and high rags I still have oh, hello characters portal two is great, right? Okay. Bye All two is great And uh, it was excellent. Thank you. Yeah God, I love the writing portal two. It's so funny It's very snappy very entertaining God damn waitly Thanks to you wonderful Fokkers, I bought a copy of ps2 return of the king to play again Thanks for the new lord the rings and all your coverage and Uh reason to read the silmarillion for the first time in 15 years Yeah, I mean, uh glad you enjoyed the the lord the rings coverage Which um got fucked over but re-released Certainly by the time you hear this in the form of three individual e-fap movies that i'm sure will hopefully now survive The ravages of youtube at least truly the return of the king.  I can't wait I will get the extended version and I just think I think zack snider will be solidified in everyone's minds Is one of the greatest living directors of all time easily And maybe everyone will be encouraged to go watch army of the dead after that. That's right Because we did dammit. Yeah Uh Mola, can you guys please cover shads video on ai? I'm curious about your thoughts on ai art I have to see your video on modern art. Hey, we did an ai uh, we did a whole episode on it So, uh, yeah, that should uh, look at all these in the rebel moon one It's like you guys just getting your wishes. Look at that crazy. We are wish granters. That's what we are We give the people exactly what they want what they need High rags and high patrick. Hello You would say hi as well Hey there you crispy fleams 2023 was a year Hey, my own biggest takeaway from the year is a slow but growing hate for being lied to by media Looking at you ruin johnson to 2024 and hail the dawn Ah, that must be a how a glass house onion glass onion Oh Reference you or you might yeah, like watching the film and just You don't get to figure anything out. You just have to wait until you find out what's true and what's fake Oh glass onion, man. That's one of the worst films ever It really is one of the worst films ever. I really dislike it. I hate it and we got uh more coming from him Many more coming. Yep Can't believe disney got their hands on e-fab. They made fringy black rags bisexual and assassinated mollus character by giving him feelings Yeah, oh, you know I mean, I've been told we're better in the book version, but I don't know.  I just we just strive to have the writing be good Hey, um molly, you hear how the creator of god of war hates how kratos is now paraphrasing He pretty much wanted kratos to stay as cool character that doesn't have much growth and gets reset Okay. Okay. Uh, well, uh, too bad. He's really cool and amazing and awesome now and and someone else took him in a really Uh, incredible direction and i'm glad that they did so I don't know. It's i'm I'm sorry that how many people that make these complaints have played it or not Like i've actually seen what story they tell Kratos is not a nice man really is like the embodiment of good virility good masculinity In the in like the first half of the 2018 game. He's the only person. He's nice to is atreus and that's even like Yeah, he's quite distant and can be quite harsh um, all of the relationships uh Like developed over a long period of time and they have to do significant things for him to open up and the games Over the two he just gradually gets chipped away at by everything And uh, it's kind of just finally come full circle by the end. Yeah, it's just kind of how Humans I know if you said like yeah, but I don't want to see him become something else. I'm like, okay, uh I don't know what to do with that eventually, you know I guess there is an element of You can't play the games then if you really don't want that or you have to skip through the cut scenes Like doomer or something like I'm not sure That's being offered in 2018 and ragnarok is one where they're trying to make him considerably more dynamic Uh, not to say that a static character is a necessarily worse character. I certainly want to use the past to wedge in The thing that people forget is that they'll celebrate god of war one two and three Oftentimes saying three is the best one and three is the one that justifies all of 2018 and ragnarok Like how do you think gets to where he is? It's like watch the ending of three A lot of people like to forget the ending of three, but watch the ending of three.  Uh, yeah, I mean, it's it's definitely a case if they didn't skip past The need to actually turn him into the character that he becomes at the end of a ragnarok They didn't just skip over it and have all of that development play off-screen so that they could just automatically get to where they wanted to be You know one of my favorite things is Calls mamiya head throughout 2018 and then when we meet them up in ragnarok, he's calling him a mirror And then when we get helios head in val haller, he calls him head Yeah, it's just yeah and of course uh Going from calling a boy to atreus and then When he flips out and runs away he calls him boy again Yeah, that's right one last time And there's so many good scenes that are just representative of uh, you know, fatherhood and the correct amount of influence and Control and direction and it's it's so interesting to have a game that at the end says like it's really important to let your Kids find their own way at least somewhat Uh, it's really cool. It's a pity that a lot of people hate it because kratos isn't The guy that they knew from the first three, which is something that is heavily influenced and addressed throughout the two games And to be honest, it was nice that they did it in such a reserved way The most overt they get is val haller, which That's the newest thing they've done. You know, they didn't they didn't do them key janglins Anywhere near as much as most media would even most media that I consider good It felt very reserved They really wanted to tell their own story, but they simultaneously didn't want to contradict anything that had come before Not in like an overt way. I'm sure they've made some mistakes in terms of timelines or details, but You know all those stories that get told all the dialogue that happens in in between missions of just Talking about his life You know in spotter and stuff like damn As far as I'm concerned the god of war fans should be incredibly happy that their franchise didn't get annihilated like everyone else's did Yeah That's uh, there's a graveyard of ruined franchises out there now Uh As for the guy the one who said it I always find it funny because everyone just makes fun of him for making the underworld map in god of war one Which is one of the most hated parts of all god of war Uh anybody who doesn't know what it is just just search. Let me see if I can do it underworld god of war one Just watch someone play it Um, you know, it's probably not good to do a walkthrough because they'll nail it You'll want to see a new player playing it. It's one of the most frustrating fucking experiences ever if you don't know what to do but You knowratos is uh Is a particular way in that game and I guess some people wanted him to be that way In the north world as well Like I think a lot of people did want to see the north version where he goes to the the lands of the north world Chills out and then Thor attacks him and he kills him and then he kills everyone and then Leaves the north world or something I'm not even like denigrating that it could be it could be like a fun thing Especially if the mechanics are focused, but they just they made a different game They made one that was very very, uh I think meaningful story wise mechanically speaking plenty of criticism you can deliver, but I still think it's retarded to put it on the same level mechanically as like the last of us or even something Like the suicide squad killed the justice league, you know, we're so if I was going to play any of these games They'd be ragnarok and a heartbeat the only one that like on the hardest difficulty Uh, I mean, you know freeing you would know this um Myself and metal and a lot of people we've been trying we try to defeat a lot of the challenges and they really require A lot of knowledge on the different layers of the combat as well as reaction time, you know What's the last of us is dark and one suicide squad is probably the worst of them all where I was just like aim shoot Wait, yeah, and then you win Anyway, uh, let's celebrate. Oh wait. Yeah, sorry. Uh, moo Wait mooshie in sign in sty felon I mean anything to you guys Mooshie and sty feld That's what it says mooshie and sty felon I have no idea what that is all right The fallout show is set after fallout 4 in la issue la is already a location in the ncr in fallout 2 Fucking Bethesda should have stuck to this shit east coast lore not taint the good stuff Bethesda has an attitude regarding continuity and lore as if they have a cool idea they want to do Then they're gonna do it and they're not gonna Make themselves beholden to old lore and while I think there may be a place for that And doesn't that Lines is being canonical if they do that as well like certain endings If yeah, I it very well might which is why all the fallouts to my knowledge take place in wildly different places But we already know that like with fallout 4 is one of its criticisms Like how is the brotherhood of steel here? How is the brotherhood and fallout like the brotherhood like has no logical There's they have no business being in fallout 76 certainly Um, but you know people love the brotherhood of steel and so even the brotherhood of steel changes from what they originally were to what they are now so I mean I I mean I think you should expect that Bethesda would Yeah, they don't I just don't think they give a shit The writing has been generally pretty garbage for quite a while now So, yeah, you don't no surprise there at least there certainly shouldn't be That's how they are Uh fringy looking at the blood in pib red. It's red All right for one person boots. Yeah Yeah, I mean there's blood That was crazy. It's funny because that's like a timers very applicable But the um, that's still one of the most fundamentally like lizard brainy sort of Reactions to media that should hopefully help people understand like the The issue with blindly loving everything that gets put out in terms of damage to the legacies of a lot of the artwork that gets made Because I I'd never like to single out anybody in terms of an experience They're having and it doesn't necessarily mean that's what that lady was was was thinking But someone turning on a lightsaber that's red And if your short circuit thought is red equals evil, but that's Anakin But he was good a moment ago, but I guess now he's evil because red equals bad. It's just like Yeah, and and it's almost it's just it's just evidence that uh, Dave Filoni knows what is good enough Um The who knows that could be what his best is is actually We'll see Um, when you were reading out the you played dead space too, right? Yes When you read out that super chat, I thought that was a reference to the beginning of dead space too They say it's red in that They do Don't remember. I just remember the guy at the the guy at the beginning um He he says to isaac that it's red your rig is red And then he tells him to go get a health kit out of the locker. Oh, yeah. Yeah Got read on you A shilling for the new year meter. Thank you I'm expecting entertainment this year from the crashing and burning of film companies question is who's going first We shall see um There's plenty of losers. There might not be people that once they get destroyed, but there's You would expect that there would be some that definitely uh reconsider their strategies Saying he doesn't like onions is the most offensive thing rags has ever said onions are based on like you dog Also, hello rags. Oh my god Onions are I just I really don't like onions. So I think it's normal to not be keen on onions. I think it's pretty pretty So there's such a fundamental ingredient in so many things. I assume you are closer to my tech Maybe that is I like the taste, but I don't like the texture Of an onion not really, uh, I do not like the texture Sometimes in very light amounts. I could be okay with the taste, but typically not really I'd prefer they were not in anything. What about you fringy? I like onions. I like them uh in general as uh a component of meals They have it three different perspectives Four spoken writing was crap But hey, the world was all right and the gameplay was fun and had some varied magic But the writing made the main character unlikable I never played that Part of the conversation because so much of the conversation was about the cringe dialogue That uh, it was kind of unclear. It's like, well, yeah, but as a video game Is it like layman mediocre or bad or is it okay? Is it fun? I've said it was a pretty mediocre to I've heard that it's mediocre. Yeah, because he did a video on it He said it was really poorly structured and that by the time you start to open up a lot of the magical options the game's basically over so you never get to really use them and some stuff like that and Of course the general cringe that's just just coding the entirety of the experience I platoon I can only catch efap and b sub what i'm on the night shift who here will let me watch echo through review Well, we did Yeah, yeah, that's right after this. So yeah, there you go. And now uh platoons Echo video is out now. So which is insane because I think uh, once you go Even just two weeks after a lot of people will be like, I don't believe this ever happened You're like, no it did it really did it came out. It really did happen. Yeah, he's video proof And they're like you made that up with uh with ai and you're like, no It swears I didn't You know, we nearly got a 100k views on our echo one I guess uh because people really do like watching the mcu, but only through things that aren't the mcu now Yeah, yeah Very weird and I wonder if there is a sector of like disney's Advisory boards that are aware of this like guys.  There is making money off people just talking about our stuff, but that we're not getting any of that money No, like, what does that mean? Like, I don't know. I actually don't know.  It's almost hard to believe how generic that game is I can believe it. It just seems like we just got an idea through and through just a really bad idea Uh hot take video with a freaking mind Metroid Prime 2 is better. I assume they mean better than one also platoon watch arcane I think it is. That is a hot take.   Oh, yeah echoes Yeah, uh Metroid Prime is like the quintessential 3d like it is it is metroid Translated from 2d to 3d Basically as closely Like as close to perfectly as you could reasonably expect to achieve It's um a remarkable video game Whereas with like two I I really like two and three. It's just that with those games that was when they were starting to let's start experimenting and trying different things And I appreciate that effort But prime man or I wonder if they started off by making a game that was basically A 2d game and then they said all right, we got our design good Let's add that you know add go through re go through everything Now that we sound I have a kind of have our 2d roadmap and then 3d fire Uh, I don't I don't know if that could have even been how it went because there's just The design of the other levels. Yeah as a big 3d space It's just a fundamentally different kind of challenge compared to designing it as a 2d space And especially thinking about ways of having the world Be interconnected when you're not just thinking on a two-dimensional plane, but you also have to think about Uh, like three dimensions and how to connect everything together I I that's part of what's so impressive about metroid prime is that it is a huge challenge Yes, it is Uh Odd casting is boogie's only joy in life Right now that might be true. It isn't I don't know if it is is it or does he hate it? Uh, no, I think he likes the attention whether or not it's negative I'm supposed to that's probably technically true Uh, what does it take on Loki season two? Oh boy.  It's like, yes, we can buy gum Just for you. That's right Uh, some of my friends love it, but I don't buy it being good. Will there ever be an e-fap on an e-fap tv? Perhaps. Oh Well, what can I say? Yes. Yes, they will. Yes, there is Uh, I'm sad you dumbo's couldn't give us a classic duma debate for the new year But patrician tv on e-fap makes up for it. It was only a matter of time Yeah, true And to think that was just his first episode That's right. Yeah, you'll you'll be getting more of him in another project Whatever that may be god I certainly don't know. No, who knows Uh, it's only a matter of time till you play ddlc. I guess so I suppose it may be maybe Uh, please bring along a cinematic venom for the inevitable harry potter e-fap movies I could you imagine we just invite him and uh Like it's it's like we have like the funnest sort of just breakdown like shitting all over harry potter movies But then we release it and everyone's like really upset I never know what's gonna happen with harry potter. I don't know. What do you what? What's the vibe right now with people in harry potter movies that people like People I don't know. I have no clue. I really don't know much about harry potter. Yeah Well, I mean, you know, we would just give it we would give it as fair a shake as possible I know that I would like them for the performances. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure those those good, right? Like Imagine yeah, and then I'm trying to think what else I like about it I mean, we we probably have put things to enjoy about the world But the it's in that period where there's probably gonna be a lot of real props and stuff in it. Yeah I know people want us to do it and yeah, I would happily invite uh old cinematic venom on it be fun Yeah, I think he'd be a good vibe for that kind of show. Yeah Uh critters they have been crisped my heart swells Oh nice Are there any themes or concepts you haven't seen in video games before but think would lend themselves well to the medium Things you've never seen before themes The thing about it is this could be a little bit spicy I feel like games are capable of exploring even more themes and films are Because of the fact that interactivity Lends itself to more things Or a different exploration of things Everything that's covered by a movie would be covered by a game Yeah, you would have thought there's nothing a film could Hover thematically that a game can't cover but the vice versa doesn't apply In the in the vein that like Soma's interactivity is incredibly important to understanding. It's uh the points it's making while Soma is a show or something I still think would be very effective and I would be on board with like trying to adapt something like that Like someone doing that If they did it well, uh Wouldn't quite capture a lot of the things that someone's going for you'd have to try and account for that um I don't think what other games like their thematic value takes advantage of the fact that you are playing I think uh speck of saline Yeah speck of saline is it it only works as a video game I mean, I think there's Yeah, go ahead keep going I was just gonna say that if you make you could adapt it into a film or a tv show But the interactive nature of that story is a big part of what it has to say even down to When you die, which is something that you're not going to be able to facilitate as like a fail state in a film or a tv show Having loading screens that confront you as the player directly Um, that's something that you get from a video game It seems to me that a really interesting thing With video games is the idea of constructing your mechanics and design in such a way that they um force the player's emotional reactions to align very closely with those of the character that they're playing as Um, that that's something that's really interesting to tap into as an experience Um But I guess that would be less of a theme and more of just a general observation of one of the things that games can do Any unique way that's difficult to emulate uh in film or television or in a book Um, yeah, so obviously that's not quite uh the question, but like I said, I don't really have an answer to uh What what do I want covered in a game that I think hasn't been covered yet thematically or that I haven't seen it's like I'm not sure Yeah, I don't know where to start with that one I'm not a bad question. It's just a tough one to really it's a tough one to answer without like follow-ups I'm interested in like exploring almost anything. Uh You know in in the format of storytelling. I'm not sure there's something that I'm like waiting to see explored In a sense of like a topic. I want to see You know like an amazing lovecraft adaptation as opposed to things that like a blood-borne where it takes parts of it and I really enjoy what it does with it I want like a full extensive and a thing that regards like existentialism would be really an existential threats and and Uh, how we deal with everything, you know, like a really all-encompassing big project and I could picture that being really good in the game Big ol rpg, maybe Yeah, you got to play mass effects sometime That's not what I'm talking about. I know no full mass effect to say that I uh, there was that cool cthulhu game that I played and I was like immensely disappointed I was this close to making a video on it. If it made me slightly more angry or I would have Interesting, I did not know about this or maybe you told us a long time ago I can't remember when when did that game come out because I'm trying to think of the timeline of what I was doing Oh I think it's one that's actually like more favored typically by people and I was I was not happy with it at all as a game and an adaptation 2018 October so it was a year after tlj Yeah, I guess I just wasn't talking to you guys about that unless I did and we forgot but either way I don't remember anything about it.   No Is what it's just an observation that's weird Yeah, because there's no follow-up with it or like thoughts attached to it It really does come across as like the ramblings of a delusional dementia Man, you know Isn't the easy slam dunk for the writers the fact that the person who grew up in a planet covered by water Is now in charge of a planet where water is a scarce resource that has to be purchased and Like found, you know, like isn't that like wouldn't that be the interesting observation to make?  Well, all right. Okay, never mind Isn't it like really not prompted too because the guy's saying like they've been stealing water and he's like I grew up surrounded by it like Doesn't help me it doesn't tell me that you have any greater insight Granny zina's introduction scene is still a masterpiece roller coaster of emotions all chaos all granny Uh That is not a roller coaster emotion. No Uh for apple plus. Did y'all have any thoughts on for all mankind or ted lasso? I didn't see either I've heard that ted lasso is really good, but I don't really know much about it other than hearing that it's apparently good Confirmed rags is an order 66 denier anti-jack. I am I am I don't think it happened the funny meme at this point. I mean, yeah, like that's the uh, yes, that's because for everyone They show Surviving they usually show a bunch of people getting killed in that context, right? Like for everyone that's Getting out and I think that there's been this like reaction of like you understand Even if 0.5% survived then it would be a lot of jedi and it's like sure But the way it's portrayed and almost everything up to a point was that basically it was a wipeout But now like they just keep being like, ah, yes, but did you know about blah blah blah? And they do it over and over again most of the time it's like a meaning that I get up to very significant events in terms of their consequence on the uh on the the fate of the universe or the galaxy rather You talk about like because like riva It was self-contained like you you survive It's one thing to say like oh they survived, but they didn't really they weren't in a position to do anything And they yeah, exactly compared to they survived and massively influenced the events of that uh interwar period in the star wars universe So who are you talking about? Uh, well, it's like uh, what the the guy in the the the games, right?  People are waiting for how he's gonna be crazy adventures Well, it'll be one doesn't count because we knew he survived Oh sure, but but like that it was over the course of those years It wasn't just laying low. He went on a grand adventure in the meantime Dramatically influencing events. I don't think that would apply though because we're talking about auto 66 survivors Oh sure, um that weren't like established to have survived after the In terms of just adding well asoka, right? She's like another new character that gets added on as being a major player in influencing events Uh, including during the that period as well the 20 years I can't remember like a so she was well coach. He was in rebel, right? And oh well, she was created in after revenge of the sith the clone wars. I think was the end of the 2000s Yeah, I don't know enough about her story. Obviously. I know that she's becoming the most important character in the star wars universe Oh, she fought Darth Vader, right? And then the world between worlds and that was uh, that was during that period as well So that's some crazy shit happening in that time as well Well, the thing is because who I'm thinking about right is ja ja jedi who's got nothing Um, the jedi the escaped the obi one met up with who just got killed Riva who was self-contained in the story I was actually going to go the opposite direction of what you said and the most of these survivors that they have Just get killed anyway Right, so it doesn't really contribute much I just yeah, I was it's almost it's kind of funny because it's like the reverse criticism It's there's no they didn't reach the middle ground which would have been probably the better way to go Which is that some of them have influenced some of them don't one Yeah, who mostly they just got a new job and because yeah, I would agree Ahsoka's ridiculous like she's like a magnet for all things interesting in the universe of star wars across all time It's annoying Um, but then who else is like baby Yoda? Right Remember it's also it's also like characters who aren't jedi because I mean what about um, what about uh, uh God damn it. Uh, ray winston's character Help me out Wait Wait, sorry. No. No. No. No wait. What's his name in issoka? Uh, the the What was that alon? Oh Ray it's not ray winston because that's no, I that was what I was saying I was like wait wait winston hold on. I mixed them up. Yeah, bray stevens's character He was around during the order 66 as well and look at how like major of a player he was in uh in issoka Yet another character who survived order 66 Of we would be one thing if every once in a while we bumped into someone who was force sensitive but Barely trained or untrained and they just sort of used it in their jobs on the sly But we never get that we never get the bounty hunter or the mercenary or the person who Uses the force but they can only do Yeah, they they they didn't go to the academy and these people are all over the galaxy, you know But we never get to see what it is to be one of those people Adopt certain spiritual practices without fully buying into whatever the uh Yeah, the ideology or the religion or the philosophy in which the spiritual practices arise Yeah, just people who are self-taught or parents who are like, oh, yeah, my kids got the force I'm not letting the fucking jedi weirdos take him away from me and like no, I love my children They're not going to go in like we never explore any of that shit Well, it's like we never They're differing uh perspectives on the force and Like the jedi the jedi religion vague if you want to call it that is very um It's all there's not much disagreement on it. Everybody seems to generally Talitarian, yeah It's very other branches that have slightly different views on it. You don't have slightly more um You don't have hyper pacifist jedi's or more militant jedi's or uh, Different attitudes on how to cultivate Probably but certainly not certainly not in disney star wars. That's for sure Yeah, what happens if someone is just like I know i'm not gonna go to your jedi cult I don't care. I know I don't want to do that, but you'll become a dark sider. It's like no, no I'm not evil. I just don't want to be I don't want to be a jedi. I want to like I want to have a family and do a career Like i'm not gonna let my entire life be defined by this.   I quit. I'm gonna go and Or she got pushed out I think I thought she quit. Uh, she's she's want to come back or whatever, right? I think I thought was it that she kind of got pushed out and then She got framed for something and then you can't fire me. I quit kind of thing I think she got cleared out in terms of the framing and then she said I think it was like the fact that I was even framed and that it was believed is enough for me to say that the jedi Like I'm out which they had to do to get it out of the continuity for revenge on the sith Ha ha ha ha Um, yeah, coagon is apparently described as a gray jedi in Uh, the sort of the stuff that was at first canon, but then it was decanonized by disney Ah Right, which you know, I guess up to you at this point, which one you consider more meaningful I doubt it's going to be disney stuff though Yeah, because I just I'm sick of the jedi and the sith and they just they just not really They don't do anything interesting with them ever Um, asoka threatened to potentially get into that, but it never did Uh, it's just yeah, it's all just lame. I don't know like the jedi that pretty much every single one of us would probably actually be Um, if we were in that world is the jedi that we never learn anything about and doesn't seem to exist. So Uh Done anything neat in real life lately hyrax Neat in real life Nothing major. I've got things planned like trips and stuff of that nature, but yeah, I was gonna say nothing newsworthy Just normal stuff human stuff. Yeah I was out for a walk and I saw a koala hanging out in the in the tray. So that was that was fun Oh, that is neat. Yeah Uh, no nothing too special not not lately. I don't go out as much when it's the winter Uh, because over here winter is cold. So I don't like the cold and But now it's starting to get nice and warm Spring is on its way and the weather's nice. So I've been you know going out more now and Yeah, nothing major Uh throne reminds me of that johnny bravo episode where he wins a martial arts duel and the enemy master walks up to him And says some random phrase. What does that mean? It means I win anyway Um, do you mean just like the coping because Man he by the time throne comes back around. I think people will be like, okay He'll get it right this time.  If so, what is your opinion? It's a great movie. Um, absolutely deserving of its reputation A what movie? Sorry citizen kane. Oh, yeah Yeah It is a good movie. Yeah, um, I enjoyed it quite a bit Yeah, I think it's awesome We will cover it someday like a like the We have a it would be an interesting like classic movies arc the Casablanca's citizen kane gone with the wind that kind of stuff Golem All that stuff Golem greater than starfield golem greater than starfield I mean From a certain point of view maybe from a certain point of view actually, yeah, but you know, it's pretty bad just saying Stuckman in robot voice You'll forget as remiller's crimes while watching this. I don't think he said that right wasn't it No, that was like what's an actual production person? Oh, was it was it her? Did she say that? I don't know someone said it, but yeah someone said it somewhere for some reason That's one of those that's one of those dystopian lines that you just don't say I guess it it belongs in like a satire thing like it would be good in nerd crew What do y'all think of debating as a nerd rotic, etc on wokeness in media could be a nice discussion Not fueled by bad faith and malicious intent I don't think it would end up being a debate and I We just would want references that relate to whatever definition they're using So it works for everybody basically because I think that the big war on that will often happen from everyone misinterpreting each other's sides And using like the fringer ones to represent arguments that aren't quite there at this point. There's no denying An interest in creating media that represents values that are not in even remotely subtle, right south park's making fun of it I think That it's like misguided in a lot of ways and it's often gotten embarrassing. I was actually um talking to a friend about how uh, I was getting tired of holly quinn and They were like, why are you bringing this up now? Like uh, what was the newest thing with here? And I was like, oh, yeah, they don't know about suicide squad and I was saying that there's a pot and rags I think you sold the supercut so you'd at least have seen that bit. I haven't seen the supercut.   You're like, well, I could talk about how it's just bad character writing or the effect It'll have an audience but like I can just tell that the person who wrote that felt insecure about writing for Uh holly quinn and worried that she wouldn't be able to stand on her own two feet But if she writes certain lines, she will and that's one of them That's one of those ones that instead of those lines actually calling attention to the fact that that's something that you're insecure about Exactly.  I don't think there would oh, yeah, I think so. Yeah, absolutely Um speaking of re4 remake you ever gonna play and stream the dlc mohler Um, so I said I think at the time if I heard enough people praising it and recommending it I would but honestly it kind of disappeared pretty quickly. Um The ate a long stuff, right separate ways. I think I'm sure it's good, but I didn't hear enough people say like oh, man. I really enjoyed that. You need to check it out I think as played it. I don't even know if he completed it It's sort of um, I think it I absolutely would have played it if if it was out with it But it wasn't enough to make me return to the game But the next time I do return to the game. I probably will play it What about you guys? I think it's definitely going to be something I end up. Yeah when I go back to the game You know go through another playthrough of it Enjoy it. That will be on the that'll be on the menu Uh, when you're going to finish velma little platoon says it gets real good at the end never never No, not watching it.  I actually hate it. Yeah I'm sure everyone will enjoy covering season two, but even then we will not be jumping in so God what a sad state for just for what a sad addition to the world of animation and then Yeah Do not remake re1 let fixed cameras stay a thing Well, they did remake re1 twice, didn't they? Yeah, also you can remake it and yeah You can remake it I wouldn't play it because it's not my thing without the fixed camera perspective Doesn't take away from the existence of the originals with the fixed camera and it could be really awesome You could you could remake re4 with fixed camera. I wouldn't say it's something that I would necessarily want But I'm not going to say it wouldn't make for a game that people would like Yeah, it's not my thing, but you know It's an option and then someone just said it's dark a classic euthan winter's line classic euthan winter classic euthan winter's RE9 should be leon training ashley as a new agent I don't know about that.  Like a new adventure of Valentine So that seems like the more likely possibility, right? Yeah Soma spoiler shouldn't simon die of explosive decompression after a suit is breached while killing the wow I love the game, but it bugs me and influences my decision because I don't want to see him just die thoughts It's confusing. I need to go into detail on or figure out exactly what the nature of the suit is because of course he is it's a human body with goo and the the like lenses attached to it and then The power suit on top to prevent like The question is is there even a compression in in the suit Rather than just the suit acts as armor to prevent being crushed as the other suit would not as in the other suit might essentially just be how he How his locomotivation happens That might be what he is so he can't use that mechanically, right? It's not because he needs to have he needs a body that can move He doesn't need a we would yeah the suit might function as just like essentially the muscles That's what he moves so that he can have a body Yeah, I think that's the there'll be the difference between us down there and breaching an arm and then getting killed versus him um, but I can't be sure I'd have to check and I understand uh You know on on future playthroughs that you'd be like, oh, shit Did I just kill myself by doing that in terms of getting getting crushed? The mario movie did reference correctly if you know it then it adds to the film But if you don't know it it doesn't take away from the film as opposed to star wars which goes hey guys It's the millennium falcon remember that by toys I mean, I'll definitely take mario stuff over Like a lot of modern key jangling any day of the week Yeah, because it literally is just like hey, there's an awing on that tv It is nothing as a as a thing that takes away, but if you recognize it, you're like, hey, awing They'll get michael waldron to write the smash brothers movie No, they might No, no, no, they got the guy who did tross right for a zelda. So How does it happen? How does it happen? I don't get it. He's got to have dirt on someone He's got to have black male material or something It's it's occum's razor. It's got to be that has to be the reason Next for nintendo and illumination building out the smash brothers cinematic universe maybe Probably another mario movie Nintendo respects their properties the biggest Food slash issue as they refuse to make a game if they can't make it special. That's why there's no f0 Um, it's it's kind of an interesting sort of problem to have where like you have I think it was me and moto doing an interview where he was genuinely stunned by the idea that people wanted another f0 game Because he felt like yeah, but we did gx. That's that's it. You know, like that's that's all that we could think of There's no there's no like revolutionizing it from there Not sort of understanding that for a lot of people they would just be happy if they made another f0 gx Just with new levels new new vehicles, you know Rather than like a reinvention Um, give me that mario sonic crossover. Is that possible? Do you think? Uh, again, I it seems like it's going to get real complicated because universal did the mario movie Sony is doing the zelda movie and paramount did sonic So I I would I would be baffled to see that kind of you know stood cross studio collaboration Spider-man is already kind of remarkable as an arrangement. It would certainly be unprecedented though. Perhaps we are in such times Maybe I wouldn't count on it, but I wouldn't necessarily discount it But yeah, don't I wouldn't bet on it, but maybe maybe Uh, y'all gonna catch up on super chat soon. Hi rags. Hello. Um, ma one day when there's less going on. Yeah They are uh, they're all coming out in a regular fashion as with uh TVs regular episodes Stag rifts, you know, we're trying to trying to make it all consistent So uh, that you guys you're almost to the point of getting a video every day now in middle earth. So it's crazy Yeah, I wonder if any of you were able to keep up Who knows? Yeah, moller and fringy in particular and you know Editors that we've got they're working very very hard bringing you guys a bunch of stuff. So Certainly. Hope you enjoy it Watching efap is the only thing that brings me joy Yeah That's uh, that meme has slags man. Yes, it does Uh, the next video game adaptation should be seaman from the dreamcast who owns the rights now All right, well, I mean if it was on the dreamcast is probably Sega, right? I would imagine so Wow, could have been third party, but Uh, I won't be able to watch all the live, but I'm hanging out with an old friend instead also high rags Hello Hey, it's good to hang out with old friends. You can always watch us again on the replay So You know hang out with your old friends. Yeah Invite your old friend to watch efap with you Uh 2023 saw the release of hullabaloo a Kickstarter animation by veteran disney 2d animator James Lopez funded over a decade ago The result was lukewarm not helped that I noticed that castan It should itchelman was in the credits the ceo behind the golem game Oh I hope he didn't end up making a deal with the devil to make that project happen And then to follow-ups they say uh to the breeding halls probably because we were talking about the breeding halls. Yes Hulls specifically designed for breeding. I like it. What are some of your favorite cartman moments? Oh, I mean Look scott tenerman like the ending of that episode is a it's a it's a boring choice But it's a good choice because it is it is one of the best cartman moments I've really enjoyed osmo as like a cartman and butters episode. Um I remember something that always killed me was when they got to la and then You know, it's like osmo needs to dispense liquids and then just goes into the bathroom takes off Takes off the uh the cardboard box on his head and he's just like drenched in sweaty bags Just like Just eating some uh, I think he ate toothpaste because he just needed to eat because he was allowed to eat and then I'll Oh man in the park when um when when uh butters is like putting all of the money into envelopes and he's like Maybe osmo should have some of that after all osmo came up with the ideas and stuff And then butters saying no, this is gonna go to needy children in third world countries And then carmen just goes It was just it was a funny idea that he ended up having to take so far because butters had done on him My referencing the only reason I know about osmo is because random film talk uses the osmo episode as a as a good example Of an element of storytelling as when he compares it to how the hobbit does it poorly So if you ever get around to watching those videos, he did he will reference osmo um You know a moment that I remember for some reason I think it's just because it felt like Absolutely in character and real that has probably happened in real life at some point with some people but They all go to kfc. They've brought home They're like you can't have kfc until you help bring in the shop and they're like, okay and carmen I think isn't he like yeah, come on guys like he's like trying to be We all do it.   What you told me I was a ghost I thought you were like like at the uh doing his job. They're going like get back Get back. Yeah. Goodbye. I'll see you from time to time as he's waving his hands in front of him like he's gonna disappear I know the first time he did it and it didn't pan out. He destroyed butters room and getting him in trouble with uh with his parents Which uh reminds me of the great one of the greatest butters moments as him punching his dad in the balls When he was wearing a fake oculus vr headset Uh Remember the scene where carmen totally breaks down this poor woman the nanny about having a dying uterus lull Oh, yeah, that was uh, that's another like classic episode the dog whisperer one Well, like they bring in super nanny and he just breaks it down Meanwhile, they bring in the dog whisperer and his strategies are incredibly effective. Yeah I remember the park. He just keeps doing the little nip The it's like it works easily well on a child.   Dominic just starts screaming at him But then uh that a really cool ending as well where like he actually grows and learns but then That was that's that's a good example of like just the the quality of the riding in south park that He goes on an arc of actually becoming well behaved and considerate Uh, but the root of the problem is that it says mum who enables his behavior Uh, and then it just sets him back on the path to being regular old carmen because she's lonely Is there a reason or is it an issue that all of the other kids still hang out with and are friends with him despite They would say they're not friends with him that they think he's an asshole. Um What are you saying like a problem from a character perspective? Yeah, like a character or writing Is that like an issue that they always like tolerate him in their presence or that they tend to be in a group all the time When he would be like ostracized and no one would get anywhere near him and everyone would hate him Their episodes or that happens, um Yeah, there are several episodes a lot of the time though it's a matter of the four of them meet up Right and that he you're at the bus stop. Yeah, you know, yeah, they all go to the same bus stop and uh It's it's kind of it's it's kind of interesting because you know kyle will often I mean it's something that they play around with it's the idea that for as much as they Apparently hate each other kyle and carmen are pretty inseparable Uh, it's hard to it's hard to split them apart In a certain sense they both kind of rely on each other um And I mean they even just have like regular and and it's still the normal thing of just sometimes Like like I mean there was a time when uh when uh, you remember when they destroyed the beaver dam That was uh, that was just stan and carmen just playing on uh That was just some random guys boat that he said was his uncle's boat and then crashed it into the beaver dam And flooded the town and meanwhile everybody else was panicking but nobody went to save them And then it was a part where the kids wanted to go to the town and save them And instead they crashed into an oil refinery and then all of the oil leaks out around the town and sets on fire And one of the guys on the roof is like oh, oh, thanks. That's that's real helpful This is much better.  They have a very narrow field of view at the front. They have no anti air capabilities essentially Um, so Yeah, I mean like the ATSTs I totally get those Um, but yeah, I think that the 8080s are weak design But like thematically they're very fearsome Very iconic But uh, yeah the uh Not good. There's a lot of great designs in star wars though that I really like even in the prequels Like even from the first episode The the droid tanks I think are really cool the way they hover They have all the different weapons systems on them. They have the turret on top that spins around Tie fighters are neat I think the the big issue with tie fighters Is probably from the side they have a massive profile um But yeah, they're they're definitely neat It was uh This is a whole bunch of them, right? I think the what it was it was vader using a tie interceptor at the end of he's got a He's got a special one. He's always had a special one Yeah, I think it's like it's actually vaders tie fight or something like that. I don't know if they have specific Uh, like codes for the designs or whatever, but I think I mentioned it on stargraf like tie interceptor is one of my favorite like Yeah, they look great They look really good. Yeah those They have this yeah the way that the the wings have those points that are facing forward. It's an aggressive design Um, yeah, they're the it's a really great look It's so good. Yeah Now that beam from when they're on attacking on hoth is in my head good Uh, can confirm hufflepuff is the gay house. I was sorted into hufflepuff gay actor michael douglas was too Also ellen de generis Well if gay actor michael douglas was I mean that solves that Uh, jeremy perish makes great content check my man out, especially if you want to learn more about old games Jeremy perish got you Advice on getting your friends into efap who have been skeptical of y'all's viewpoints prior claiming toxic fandom without watching your content um You might have them maybe not efap episodes, but efap Like tv or efap movies on stuff that we like Start them off with our lord of the rings might be a good way to do it Have us cover something that we really like There are like 17 strategies here like first of all if it depends on the friend So if there's someone who's very far gone like to the point of thinking we're nazis or whatever That one's gonna be tough. I don't think you're gonna dig them out of that Um, you'd have to find some kind of collaborative project. We've done with someone they like And then we yeah, maybe guess that we've had on if there a person who's just casually heard that we're kind of bad And doesn't care to find out anything else then. Yeah, I think what rag said So like try and find out what what kind of stuff they like that we like and then set them on that A good example might be the hillhouse coverage we did That was pretty um You know even handed and very celebratory of storytelling if they like hillhouse, which a lot of people do That might be a good start to show what we kind of do And then, um, you know funner stuff and then once they understand That's what we're about. They can probably just get on with normal stuff Broadly speaking, that's probably the strategy, but then you could try and just argue it Um, but I just don't know how close you are with these people or how much they'd be interested, right? You could be like I just you could pull the card of like do you not trust me Like I've watched them extensively and I know that they're not the thing you're saying You could try that it doesn't always work And um best to look I suppose Hi, I'm gay actor michael douglas.  Hey there. Good morning being gay Good morning vietnam. Are you guys seeing that movie? I have not yet.  What's that someone else was that from the dance game that they did Yeah, they yeah On solo on solo Oh god Imagine the world where cathleen kennedy wasn't an insane person and we got a best-been section in the disney park You sure just made it otm prequels if you really want the money it should have been. Yeah They really were banking hard hoping that uh Um, hoping the uh That the sequel stuff would really take off Uh, do you think we'll ever get another perfectly written character like tywin lannister? Should we yeah, we have we have them popping up here and there maybe sometimes Perfectly is a complicated word. Um, you know, it's uh We've got plenty to work with from history and sort of ones that can come close in the modern era of like Maybe they're talking about long term Well written characters In like tv and movies. Um, yes, I believe we'll have more to come over time. I mean, I'm I'm optimistic about how You know, give it however many years and we'll we'll enter a better age again Because it just I just I don't know. I feel like we're getting little little Notifications or aspects of culture that are just noticing and moving on and changing minds on different things Uh in the past even like a year I I believe in the whole like everything comes in waves and counterbalances happen and I just yeah I'm hoping that we get to a point where we go. Whoa That year had like one movie that we didn't like Holy shit Yeah, it would be really cool And um, hopefully some kind of resurgence in a couple of the different parts of the industry that we all miss Like practical effects gets to be reignited Uh and writing of course, so yes, uh, hopefully and secondly, do you agree with a statement to begin with the tywin is perfectly written? I don't know about that It's complicated I always hesitate to say anything is perfectly written, right? Yeah, that's uh, that's an accolade that you want to be very very conservative in your dispensation of I'd have to think about it. I'm enjoying lego up there Yeah I'm enjoying lego skywalker saga took a bit but I got into the swing of it But at 25 hours, I'm enjoying it so far because I'm gay Oh, wow. Nice I think I might have hated it But that was on launch and maybe it's better by now Maybe they've actually added a whole bunch of things in and fixed a whole bunch Yeah, I remember watching your playthrough of that.   Um, it might be ooh, it's Oh, if it wasn't for like the space and time shit that low key and some other stuff pulls It's definitely in contention for worst show if it's probably the worst fantasy so a fantasy show I've ever seen I don't even know what which has got stiff competition Just so everyone remembers. Yeah, I don't even know what I would rings of power the witcher though I haven't seen two of those. I haven't seen witcher a wheel of time Rings of power is definitely very very bad Yeah, um, I think that rings of power At it's not it I get technically it's an advantage in the sense of rings of power is kind of like classic bad Um in every way we're like all the characters basically all the characters suck the plot makes no sense It has nothing like going for it. It's just a shitty show But um willow is kind of like a different animal. It's Oh boy Uh, I don't care if I'm an owl behind I want an R rated bayonetta movie do it cowards also high rags Hello Yeah, be fun bayonetta's probably not popular enough from the perspective to warn uh a film Yet willow is to make a tv show Well, I mean clearly they made a mistake didn't they that's what I mean make another mistake Just make it with things that we want to see They banked on nostalgia pretty hard Um, but they didn't do anything with it the more that you like willow and understand willow the more you will Actually hate the show the show takes a let's go over the movie Yeah, it takes a big dump all over the movie. It's it's actually kind of Like I like willow the movie. It's fun.   Yeah, sure But I like willow, you know, it's very endearing and charming But yeah, it's it so even you know with my casual Kind of liking of willow the the show just like, uh, how how dare you I do this to the show I just beat god of war ragnarok valhalla. This was so fun. I loved it. It was pretty fun Bobby's like the handmaid's tail and how much you get out of it in the movie depends greatly on how much you agree or disagree with its premises Premise premises uh I guess so well, it's also down to what you think its premise is It's uh, it's very much a rorschach test that film with a lot of people Eating but is good for you vitamin c and protein too Farewell and adieu to you fair fleamish massives farewell and adieu to you massives of fleam Ah, goodbye. All right. Thanks for being here era of when youtubers would mention dark souls in videos That's how I found you. Cheers. Mola. Love your videos. Even your dark souls to critiques. What do you mean even? What do you mean? Even your dark souls videos are okay. I guess Thank you Appreciate it. Yeah, there was a fun era where everyone could pay everything to dark souls Especially when a lot of people would like find that interesting who hadn't even played dark souls. It was strange My ratings for the ot are eight nine and six for the respective films Um, I think that's been posted before but yeah, you know, I could understand I'd have to rewatch him before settling on numbers for those Yeah, I feel like that's I think that's Probably about Like the the idea of like good a little bit better and then clearly the weakest is I think that's probably what we would end up going towards. It's just Which numbers we'd settle on it could be seven eight five seven eight six it could be seven seven Five, you know, it's who knows who knows but I think that's a decent convention I used to like onions. Then I got covet Whoa Oh, yeah, I've heard covet. Um messes with your taste buds a bit Oh, yeah, I've heard that. Yeah I never I've never got covet so or me. I don't think I have I don't think I did Yeah Because covet has been I heard that some people who got it said it was super mild And it was like they barely noticed it and they thought it was just a flu And some people got it and they said it was miserable absolutely miserable So seems to be sort of luck of the draw in terms of how bad it is for you But I don't think I ever got covet. Um, I think my sister and my I think I think a sister and a Yeah, a couple of my family members got it, but I think literally just a couple so We came out a okay I have a real life campaign of boulder's gate with friends and that was put on Holt for scheduling reasons boulder's gate three really does fill that hole I'm glad to hear it. Yeah, very glad to hear that it does I love democracy. I love the e-fap. I'm gay Right good to know palpy Uh metal you owe us more less pants no pay up He apparently his chat ordered him to take my pants when he was visiting but Did he I don't I don't think so Oh, we could have Uh, Bethesda how familiar are you with all your all your I'm gonna say copies of pants.    I'm recreating Mahler here Bethesda copied the outer world space mechanics All right, maybe um I I don't think outer worlds had flying in space I I think outer worlds just had the you use the ship to basically fast travel to different planets and locations, but essentially yeah, that's basically what Bethesda did with um, uh with starfield to the point where You can pretty much go through the entire game and not engage in space combat at all I think there's a couple missions where it's mandatory But you can go through pretty much. Yeah, you can go through pretty much the whole game and not um Not engage with space combat and a complaint that I've heard from both patrician tv and private sessions Is that the difficulty setting for starfield? uh the on foot combat Which they say is very easy is also tied Into the ship combat as well Which can be extremely difficult if you don't have the right kind of ship And uh, and so you can be even on the highest difficulties You could be having a breeze fighting on foot But then you get into a space battle and you just get absolutely destroyed with essentially no hope Because if you don't have all your stuff planned out and prepared And you haven't gotten a new ship because the ship you start out with the frontier is like it's a noob trap They've said it's terrible. So you need to replace it as soon as you can Um and plus in space, you know, there's stuff like there's no cover and there's no way to really Kill yourself or do anything like that.  If so thoughts new, um, I I have not I haven't really heard anyone talking about it positively or negatively. I have seen positive things about it Okay, that's interesting because it's the director of uh, pattington, right? Who's reliable? Well, I'm not really good, right? I haven't seen those phones, but I hear that they're really good Well, I know I would certainly be interested to watch the three Wonka movies that we have now And compare them to one another that sounds like an arc to me It sure does Uh What's your ideal pokemon team with only one legendary and this person suggests theirs would be Mewtwo charizard salamence Blastoise metagross and electivire Also, hi rags Hello I don't know Meowth Um, I'm talking I presume we're talking just like which ones would be Like a great combo to win not who could you have a conversation with? Oh, uh to win to become the pokemon master. Yeah Uh Venusaur garrados, um Uh onyx Um Zapdos Well, that's your legendary gone. You're only one. Yeah, I get I just yeah, I said that one for the legendary It's been so long is Do I need like a I got a zapdos is a fly boy. So we got one of those We got our Venusaur our starter We got a rock type We have a water with garrados You need a uh, uh, the one No, just the the one that you you're gonna use to like what what is it called the the ones that you apply for like, uh, fly and Uh, that just can fly, right? Oh, no, your your tm abilities. Yeah.  Yeah fly a flying pokemon Or you can just walk around the bush But uh, there's there's always that option, I suppose I don't really know. I haven't played pokemon in a long time. I really only sort of remember the gen ones I'm sure you don't have to overthink it. I barely remember The gen twos because I played and beat gold, but it's just been so long since I've played it I just don't really remember A lot of the pokemon I just want to Yeah, I just want to I just want to be a stream I want to stream with my meowth and I want we're just gonna have fun We're gonna watch movies together And and we're just gonna be a duo, you know I'll do um Blastoise, Typhlosions, Norlax, Zapdos, Haunter and possibly Maybe even like Pikachu at the end or something Just uh, I'm just gonna hang out with them Yeah, having like a Haunter or a Gengar would be really probably good to have because ghost types, yeah I'd probably want a Gengar. I'd want Blastoise Or Charizard You should pick Charizard because we picked the other two so that'll round out our uh Yeah, Charizard, cool. Um, they're all good. They're that's the thing. They're they're super. They're all super cool Um, I probably want maybe uh, Alakazam in the mix. Oh, yeah, Alakazam. I like him. He's a good psychic type. Yeah Yeah, exactly. Uh, so yeah, we have Charizard Gengar, Alakazam um If we were going for a Legendary, uh, you both took Zapdos. He's probably the one that I'd want. I needed. Yeah, I need an electric type, you know well, um Kyogre would take him, uh Since I don't have a water type in my in my roster there So I get him I'd get a Zigzagoon. I reckon just for all of my tms I would I think I'd also probably take like a nitto king or nitto queen. They're kind of underrated, but I think they're Yeah, I'm a champ. Yeah I I'm I probably would want Snorlax. I like him. I like his chill attitude The Diogenes of Pokemon He is he's uh, yeah. Yeah, maybe maybe you could call him the Diogenes of Pokemon Uh Thank you so much Fringy. I agree with you 100% on your Spider-Man 2 takes I was disappointed with the lack of replayability you demand Uh Oh on uh the game. I would for a second there. I'm like replayability on Spider-Man 2. Um, but yes, I think Spider-Man 2 is just it's just lacking Uh, it's just generally lacking Uh, yeah, no one talks about it. It just kind of came and went so many people wind about it That was the most noteworthy thing about the game. Is that a weird fight with boulders gate 3? Yeah Unwinnable fight with boulders gate 3 Yeah, and then the nature of discussing like cutscenes and their relationship to games Well, I mean Tony themselves are kind of admitting that uh, they can't keep doing this forever Um, they need they want to make more live service games Oh good Because they can't be spending, you know, like 300 million dollars On these games that don't have the don't have these absolutely amazing returns Or they could just focus all their they could spend a third of that and just make a game that has really good gameplay And it doesn't have to have these doesn't have to be half a movie Well, I mean helldivers 2 is uh published by stony and that's one of those games where it's probably making them think like Hmm, you know, what if we just made a solid core game with good options? Yeah, no way that game is uh That expensive to have to have developed no way. Um, yeah, it probably was cheap But it certainly would oh my god Helldivers 2 is the number two game on steam right now. That's what I'm saying I'm saying that that's got to be making them think Pal world is already down to 206,000 Um, which is like still a lot obviously, but I feel like it was this information is incredibly out of date Yes, potentially. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah as of as of now as of me saying it the top 10 games on steam are counter strike two Helldivers 2 Dota 2 pal world last epoch apex legends Player unknowns battlegrounds Baldur's gate 3 call of duty And tom clancy's rainbow six siege. Oh siege is still going, huh? Oh, yeah, yeah, I think they're up to like that ninth year actually That'd be it Try playing spark the electric jester. It's good Fair enough I'm gonna be my last super chat for a bit. There's gay actor Wife and I are saving up for a house. Love y'all No problem.  That's that's cool. Shit. You know, that's experimental That's really it is very experimental living truth sort of thing Um, I'm old school I could sit down after work with a smokable substance and metal gear solid and the world was fine first person rocket cams Or I could be a cardboard box. What's not to love? Ah the simpler times man Uh high e-fap scene moon channel on youtube. It's run by a lawyer and has a good video on the health of the video game industry Regarding the record layoffs in 2023 Not seen it, but sounds interesting. I have not seen that. No, I I sort of keep up on the news regarding a lot of stuff, but uh Yeah, I mean there's a lot of reasons to be um excited There's a lot of reasons to be uh wary, but you know, isn't that every year so Gamers aren't going away. I think that's the big that's the big takeaway is that Gamers are not going away. There's gonna be more. There's more gamers now than ever the industry isn't going to die It's it's there's too many people who want this stuff I mean So yeah, so don't get doomered or blackpilled or anything like that just Always great games out there buy the good ones and ignore the bad ones. There you go Thoughts on reach a season two high rags No, no, I've not seen it I've heard good things about the first season Watched drinkers reviews reach a one season one was very well liked season two was also liked but considered worse than season one Hopefully it's on a back-up trend with the next season I suppose Yeah, yeah, absolutely Good True, thank you And you could not live with your own media literacy. What did that bring you back to stuckman? We went back to stuckman again That's right. You just kept having interesting things to say who to thought Uh hey efap open class actions, please google it what You want us to open class actions On lawsuits Who do you want us to go for? Yeah, name name them. We'll go for them. Yeah, we'll totally do it.  Oh, that was actually one of the shows I never watched as a kid I don't know the arthur theme myself What a wonderful time today. Is that it or what? Yeah, that's one line from it. Get along with each other. That's what I remember. Oh, yeah, I'm the haze I don't know the I like I don't know if you mark drags on this one Every day when you're walking down the street And everybody that you meet has an original point of view Man, I wish youtube was like that It's kind of funny that the lyrics for this little cartoon tv show like I don't know how it goes I would have to listen to it Let's let me go arthur theme song Well, while you do that, I'll just read out because we got only a couple more Pokemon of the day is drampa The pokedex entry for ultra sun, which is if a child it has made friends with his bullies Drampa will find the bully's house and burn it to the ground Jesus Christ. Why do they do this? Why do they do this? The pokemon world is like I'm I'm it used to be fun and everything and now it seems to be like A nightmare realm where some pokemon is just gonna snap and burn down a whole town Or suck out your skull or kidnap your children just because that's what it does I mean this is this one slightly better than some of the other ones like it The ultra moon one says it appears in towns and plays with children drampa will protect kids when they're in danger So their parents don't have to worry See like white that one. That's the good one a protector of children That's ultra moon ultra sud is the one where it bids houses to the ground Jesus Christ God you gotta have it. What does it look like? Oh Kind of the kind of thing where if you saw it as a kid you'd be like, hmm. I'm not sure Because you'd imagine that. Oh my god It looks like a wise He does look like a wise old dragon I didn't know that he was an awesomeness I wouldn't think about looking at him He looks like a water type with like a fucking canister and a lighter Yeah, yeah, he looks like a kind of a like a snake with are those legs or wings that he's on it's something He's an interesting design not bad not not bad, but interesting The empire is never more alive than when we sleep, which is the law super chat Leaving us with uh, whatever rags wants to do with the author theme Well here, let me listen to it's just like a minute.  Or is it the chorus? Why don't we get well, I um Let's see Uh every name Okay This would be this would help if it was a song I knew So you'd have to say Okay, so it would be A skeletor would show. Oh my gosh. It's time for arthur, but evil What what's arthur?  It seems to be quite controversial Comments are turned off because I guess it's like pbs kids thing But that's kind of odd. I wonder I wonder why that would be maybe alpha like got canceled. He said someone on twitter Maybe arthur did say something. It was probably buster. See, I know buster the rabbit, but I don't know the theme song Uh, and I say hey, no and I say And it's it's weird and I say hey What a wonderful kind of day if you can learn to work and play and get along with each other You've got to listen to your heart. Listen to the beat. Listen to the rhythm the rhythm of the street Open up your eyes. Open up your ears. Get together and make things better by working together That was beautiful. Good job. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's very wholesome message from skeletor Yeah I think scowls was looking out for everybody really Um like that you sort of pay attention to some of the stuff he says and you're like wait a minute Is he the hero and you're like maybe maybe maybe the skull and bones man is is is Actually kind of more representative of how life truly is I'm looking at the the lyrics here every day when you're walking down the street and everybody that you meet has an original point of view Okay And I'm looking for what is view rhyme with or is it just this weird boy hanging off the end? Hey day play each other Yeah, that one does yeah, because even though these are this four lines And I say hey, hey, what a wonderful kind of day if you can learn to work and play and get along with each other So that that's kind of like the first bit Which is odd to have three lines So you have rhyme rhyme and then the odd one out But then you have the I guess the repeating chorus refrain whatever it's called And you have hey day play and then other that weird one hanging off the end again You gotta listen to your heart listen to the beat listen to the rhythm rhythm of the street. So we're good Heart beat rhythm street heart beat rhythm street. Okay eyes ears better together better together Yeah, that works It's a simple message and it comes from the heart believe in this and in yourself That's the place to start. Okay heart yourself start There's no pattern here because the first time it's street beat view. So like a a b and then it's a b a In terms of its rhymes Hey day play Other hey, well, yeah, I don't I don't like this It feels very unstructured and I don't know. I don't like this. Yeah, I agree. I'm I'm gonna down. I'm gonna dislike this I don't like this theme song. This is no JJ the jet plane. Let me tell you that Well, I will present the opposing opinion That is we need more author in our life because the the theme song is literally just hey Other people have different opinions. Okay, and that's fine The internet could use a bit more of that Listen, okay, listen That's a fine that that's an understandable point of view I think this is a shit theme song Dude, Arthur's gonna beat you up. Have you seen his fist? Arthur is how how old is Arthur like 10? How how old is Arthur?  Um, so that means if we start with So in 1996 Arthur was eight years old Okay, so Arthur was born in 88 Okay, so he's like 36 now depending on when his birthday is right.  But yeah, that's yeah, Arthur's 36 now Isn't it that seems like the thing that somebody would be like, yeah, let's make a show about Arthur He's 36, but now he's a loser and he's an alcoholic drunk and he's got his marriage is full Yeah, he's divorced. Yeah Um Arthur Chronicles the adventures of eight-year-old Arthur through engaging emotional stories that explore issues faced by real kids Telling these stories from a kid's point of view without moralizing or talking down All right, this is an interesting question on screen rant. How old is Arthur age? Interesting interesting And that was the final question. So thank you all so much for sending them in we appreciate it And uh, I suppose we'll see you in the next evap thing whatever it may be but for now Goodbye everyone see you later and remember Phineas and Ferb had a kick-ass opening song