Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-C-E-O, and man, hold up, man. This boy done up and done it, man. What's going on today, man? No, don't say nothing, PMG in the building! Check it out, man, this nigga got... Man, how much... Goddamn, I can't see nothing over there, nigga. I have lit the lights up a little brighter, nigga.  PMG in the building, man. Jose Fordeco, what it do? Hey, man, I can't call the... Scoot a Mac! What it do? Shit, what's up, baby? And that boy Lodiz in the house... Oh, man. You know how I'm in this bed, man? In there, like what? In there, like swimwear. Can we even begin now? You feel me? Man, these niggas vets, man. You know what I'm saying? I can't even make these niggas nervous on the set. They been on two-minute sets. No. No. No nerves. No nerves. No nerves. And butterfly has been going on. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Nerves. No nerves. No nerves. And butterfly has been going on, man. Man, defamation of what? Defamation of character, man.  What's going on, man? Man, the streets didn't do me no justice, man. You know? They go off of what they see instead of what they know. You know what I'm saying? I mean, last time you was here...  I'll never forget it, man. I remember last time you was here, you wrote with me. You told me what restaurants to go out to, but you never did. You sent me nothing back. You know, like a coupon to say, hey, go over there. Pay for it! So how you been, man? Look like you done been in the jail, man. What's going on? Ah, man. I had to take a little time to get myself together, man. You know how it be. I'm gonna try to get myself together. Hell, I'm over here looking like I done ate one of me, nigga, around this whole man. Shit. That man, nigga, eat good. Yeah, man. So what's been going on? Like, with this project right here, what do you expect? I mean, like I said, I'm just giving them Jose. You know what I'm saying? I took time off. You know what I'm saying? I listen to everybody.  You know what I'm saying? Just to see how they would come. You know what I'm saying? And I came back hard all the way live. Wow. In the streets.  Nah. I wanted to give them me. You know what I'm saying? I put my evil twin on her. I got a evil twin that's coming up in the streets. You know what I'm saying? Youngster, he one of the hardest niggas in the streets. You know what I'm saying? But I wanted to give him, like I said, I wanted to give him that authentic and this was my definition of character. Yeah. What's the youngster name, man? Isn't that Street Classic Deuce? You know what I'm saying? Deuce, say. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So, this youngster right here, what made you put him on there? Because that's a big deal, man, because you feel to put them spotlight on that boy. Yeah, man.  You know, we try to shine that light. You know what I'm saying? We're going to shine that light on the people that don't get it. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I represent the have nots. You know what I'm saying? So, I'm going to put the light on the people that don't get to get light shed on them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. What do you think about the music like right now? And I asked this to all y'all on the panel, man. Like, what do you think about the music right now so far in the Dallas area?  That yellow, I don't even rate him in here because he already been around so long.  He had known artists throughout the world. What's up with the new? What's up with the new guys? Like, what are you guys, what are you guys seeing that y'all think I got to know that this boy is the one, you know, all these boys is the one or such and such over here. And I do that because that way I'll be watching them too to be honest with you. Right, right, right.  You know what I'm saying?  Like Dallas got to get behind Dallas. You know what I'm saying? We ain't nothing wrong with showing love everywhere else, but we got to get behind our own. You know what I'm saying? And that's where we going off. So that's why people kind of feel like the Dallas scene is falling, but they ain't listening. You know what I'm saying? It starts with the fans. You know what I'm saying? Not calling it, saying it like that, but it starts with the consumer. No, I get it. I get it. I think it starts with the fans. What do you think, my boy? Well, you know, just right now it's just, you know what I'm saying?  You know what I'm saying? It's wide open for the takin' right now for as far as new orders. You know what I'm saying?  No, I get it, man. That's real. What's up, Scooter Max? Shit, what's up, baby? I mean, when you look at where the music is now versus where it used to be and how the game first came up, what do you think, you know, what's the big difference, you know, from that old day to this new day?  Niggas, they were doing their thing, but the games was a little different. They had to grind a little bit harder. But it was hand-to-hand. Yeah. It was tangible. Now you got the internet now. I don't know. I think niggas really ain't working. Like, these new niggas, man, to me, like, I think a nigga should have something to give a nigga. Yeah. Because I think that causes a nigga to, you know what I'm saying? Locking in, being real. Back in the game, it was more of a tangible market because you had CDs and things of that nature and you couldn't reach nobody but who you was in front of, you know what I'm saying? If you had to travel to reach people, you know what I'm saying?  Everybody can see you at one time, you know what I'm saying? So that was the difference. I agree.  You had to be a good salesman. You had to be a grinder. You had to have something to get at these folks for free if they didn't want to buy your CD. You know what I'm saying?    You had to... CD burners?  Yeah, the more fake barcodes y'all was doing. I know about you niggas. I heard about the niggas. The more fake barcodes scared the niggas back in the day. I remember that, bro. Damn, those niggas that did that. We was out there, though. We was out there. Let me say, no, fans. We was out there. We was out there. We was out there. We was out there.  Yeah, for real. I ain't even driving to Kansas. Yeah. I had a phone with you. I seen Grifter. I don't know. Them stickers that day. I think it was the Grifter.  Everywhere.  Oh, whoa! We playing. Niggas remember that street grind, man? Yeah. We was all in Oak Cliff. All in North Dallas. Everywhere. All everywhere, man. All out of the state. Every cornerstone. Yeah, yeah. With 16 or 18 songs, four minutes and five minutes long, I like y'all new wave. Two minutes, get it on water. Boom, bam. Yeah. That's what a young niggas do it. That's one of the 316s. You know what I'm saying? Eight boy hooks, 316s, four minutes, five minutes songs. I think nowadays it kind of just allows motherfuckers to cheat the system. You know what I'm saying? They ain't got to really wrap that long. You know what I'm saying? And with motherfuckers not being able to wrap that long, they got to make a catchy hook. You know what I'm saying? It kind of ran away from the lyrical side of the rap kind. It did. Yeah. It did. Yeah, man. I had that boy, and I got a man, that boy Timo came in there. He came thinking of a lot of stuff. I ain't never heard nobody really just mentally go there constantly. I'm like, what the hell, what he got up in that thing? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's like these niggas, them New York style niggas, or the Southern niggas that do the battle rap type stuff. Yeah. That's what them niggas do. But then I like, there's a different type do like that bounce, or either that, or that music. Like did you have a club bang on this one? Or do you know, a strip club bang on this one? I mean, I wouldn't, all my music is really for the streets. Okay. And it's for the people that, that's after putting a different type of grind in every day. You know what I'm saying? I'm giving them something to ride to. But it's so, it's so me that you can jam it in the club too. You know what I'm saying? I got a record on there in particularly for women though. It's called pat me down. I think that's going to be a hot, hot tiktok record. You know what I'm saying? For the females, get them something to dance to. Mm hmm. It's called what? It's called pat me down. Pat me down. I feel like that chick list, he got one called chick list. You like that one?  See with Bodega man, he kind of, he could do club records.  I like it. I like it. So you can take it out in the club on mouth. Oh yeah, mouth for sure.  Yeah, what, so when you came out with this, how many visuals do you and Vision do it on this project? I'm going to do like six visuals. You know what I'm saying? Probably seven. Just give or take. But I'm going to, I'm going to really shine a light on the songs that's like closer to the end though. I'm going to start off with the hot records. Then those last three to four going to be the ones at the end that people might not have got to listen to. You know what I'm saying?  Like if you're going to go to San Antonio. San Antonio? You know what I'm saying? Atlanta. I think, you know what I'm saying? They love my vibe in Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? Miami. Yeah. Like I say, it's Bodega. You know what I'm saying? It ain't made for one specific area. That's why I call myself Bodega. It's made for everywhere. I'm tripping off what made, Disney could say everywhere. Everywhere. So you ever go out like out of town and do the visuals for them? Like maybe Vegas or out to Miami?  Yeah, I know. Do a lot of networking in LA. You know what I'm saying?  I like that.  Like, it's DSLRs and video, you know, all type of Komodo cameras, all type of stuff going on. We know this man. Like, why, why is it you think like that a lot of time, people just keep it home.  Well, a lot of times it'd be the finances. You know what I'm saying?  Don't come in with that. I'm not trying to hear that. I'm talking about you, nigga. You said, you said people though. Yeah.  Why wouldn't you go do it in Cali? Why wouldn't you go do it in Miami? Why would you go do it in, let me say somewhere else like you could do it anywhere. I mean, it don't, it ain't necessarily that I can't do it. I just really be on some, I'll be moving around though. You know what I'm saying?  I can't start too far away from the paycheck. I just think that you got a lot to offer and I think for me, for me now, I'm not, but I just know that if you hitting these cities and doing these things, it's just other people going to get traction from seeing you go do these. You know, if you decide to go to Memphis and do one and show love to Memphis, that's what I was saying, man, like it's so many other people that look like us that's in these cities that will love us back if we show them love. I really believe that. But I understand, you know, I've been around the world, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? I understand.  Nah, I mean, in-house resources that's very lucrative here in the city. Okay. You could use, you know what I'm saying? And it'd just be easier to knock out a lot of time, but shit, we don't have that boy anywhere you want to go. If you say you want to shoot here, man, we want to shoot here. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He just ain't shooting here. He's not trying to go nowhere else because you got to drag this nigga out here. He's not leaving like that. No, he ain't going to go out and drink, man.  Nah, for sure. God, they love you. You know what I'm saying?  But see, I also want people to know that I ain't one of them motherfuckers that's going to get on and run away from my place. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to run away. We know that. Because the problem, we got problems out here that need to be fixed. So I ain't that nigga that's going to make it better. I definitely agree. Let's conquer home first. Y'all already conquered home. I mean like, ain't nobody did a lot of stuff that y'all done did. PMG, FACTS. They done did a lot of stuff in Dallas. FACTS? Ain't no line of getting around that nigga. You know what I'm saying? No, I don't want to take it all. You don't think? One thing I learned though. Scooter bags that he want everything. What was it like? We was in L.A. Who was that producer that we was talking to? With Dallas Martin and that producer. The one that I was playing the music for that one time. What's his name? Where he was from? We was in L.A. Dallas and Martin in the studio. Maybe some of the producers come through there man. He will make a long story short. He was telling me like you can be in from Texas.  I already know that for sure. I'm saying if you work in Texas like that you definitely I think LeFlip showed us that too first. LeFlip also didn't have the internet at the time. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? You immediately cross all state border lines once you become a good name. Nowadays because the internet you know what I'm saying? You immediately cross that line to get your traction. I think like I said I think it's who produced a lot on this song. On this project. Monster.  Okay. I'm saying a lot of monster tracks, a lot of Bud Beats. Shout out Bud Beats. He was over here the other night. Yeah, that's my boy man. You know we they just keep it funky for me. Like I said it be the baseline most of the time for me. You know what I'm saying? So I be having to go out there like I because I'm not necessarily flowing at the same pace as other people because I'm stacking my bars. Okay. Okay. You got some Ziggie on there too you got most of the time. Yeah, I was just finish like that. And little bro and that's really he the next he gonna be hot as anybody if you ask me. Ziggie he young you know what I'm saying? And he just building up like a house. You know what I'm saying? Brick on brick and in a minute he gonna be the hottest cat around facts. You know what I'm saying? Actually one of my records that I'm gonna push from the album is from Ziggie. Damn. It's called Checklist. That's real. That's real. And do you feel like you feel like this thing when it hit?  You know what I'm saying? Really load on load ain't gonna have another way. He ain't gonna have another way. That's bro. That's bro. How is it how is it getting prepared for what you about to face when you go a project dealing with loaded. He gonna make sure the boxes be checked.  That's bro. He always been like that. Damn. I mean you know but it's all of it though. It's all of it.  I agree. I agree. So I mean like you said he always been like that. Let's tap into you one time. You know like when you guys first started a PMG you know you guys was how did just give me a run down of what happened.  That's how it really started. My partner had studio next door. Okay. I used to go over there to the studio all the time. They were jamming low.  That's low. Bro right there. So I really was a fan at first. So I had a problem I said bro what that door with y'all where? It was kind of a shake.  So you seen it in me. Yes sir. You didn't mind putting the bread up to any body. Yes sir. That's a little facts.  No we didn't know each other. So what did you think when he came at you about that?    So PMG started what year was that about O-Fo? O-Fo? Yes sir. Yeah. Damn. This family bro. Yeah. Yeah. And PMG what does this stand for give it to me? Well we initially started out it was profit money gooders. Since you know what I'm saying I say probably about 2015-16 we kind of went a little bit more corporate with it and made it profit music group. Yeah. That's dope. That's dope.  See I'm interviewing now but they go I'm interviewing them now. So you're going into a place where you have never been before right? Yeah. So how do you say when was the time when being independent just wasn't that popular? I was looking at I was looking at labels that was already here like the Rappelites, the Swab houses you know what I'm saying and you know we had people in the city doing independent things you had RIP 24K. Okay. And he had real real records you know what I'm saying and you know my partner from I can't say my partner he OG from the hood said Buster and got with his guy named Thurman Patterson and they started to turn to life records which put out my nigga man.  Really? Yeah, yeah. We stayed in Cali for like a month. We went all over the state. Went to the Bay, did everything, man.  Who was the first, other than yourself, who was the next artist that you guys brought on board? We had TRP. That was a group top ranked profiteers. Okay. Kobe. Kobe the one you knew. Kobe is his little brother. That's my little brother. We're hard. Yeah, yeah. That was y'all doing this, bro. So you had Kobe. Snoop. Snoop Monstro, which we call it PMG Monstro right now. And Yellow Bees. And Yellow Bees. And Yellow Bees. What year was that? It was old four. Oh, four. That long ago. Yellow was like 13. 13, Kobe by 14. Snoop by 15. 16. 16, yeah. Did you hear the story when Luchi told it on here that he... I didn't ever heard that story before. That's your current... That was crazy, wasn't it? Yeah, and that was right before we... Y'all tapped into him. Yeah. Because he was like about 12 when his dad first died. Yeah, and that's when he say he was asked to come over there. So, I mean, you know, I was like, dang, because he broke that down to him and I just didn't even... I didn't even know he knew him like that. I talked to Luchi. Well, see, and it was crazy, too, because Luchi was on my first album. Okay. You know what I'm saying? He was on my first and my last album. So around that time, me and Luchi was dealing with each other, but he probably didn't know Yellow was out of broke. Yeah, he didn't even know. Because he was so young. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? He was young, too. He said something to him about it, but he probably just didn't register. But yeah, back then, I seen that, I seen that she didn't lose you. I talked to Luchi right after I said it. You did? Yeah, yeah. I'm like, bro, I didn't even know that she...  That's what he said, son.  Never been. Tell her school to tell her school how she was. Say, I'm the only person she would let Yellow go with. She wouldn't let that nigga go with no one. No. And I had to bring him back home. Yeah. And she didn't play about it. And he couldn't cuss in his raps back then. He couldn't do none of that. Couldn't cuss. Just came up and played no games. So he started out 13 years old rapping with y'all? Yes, sir. 13? Yeah. 13.  Little squeaky-ass boys. Y'all put that work in. Big ol' heirs.  And then he stood tall in the mic, even as a young nigga. Even as a young nigga. And he knew he was always a little flashy, little nigga. He was trying to make a scene like this. He was just holding up. I knew he was gonna be held. You know, I had a story that came on here. GutterTV told a story like that. He said that when he see Two Chain doing certain things, he know already that when the nigga didn't really have nothing, he made it look so pale. Like he just had everything. So he said when he see him doing the fly stuff, he know already it's a whole other level because he don't, you know, and I get it when you saying the nigga always has something going where you knew, hey, I'm that guy. The yellow man in the PMG stunner. That's what he's saying. Say, I knew little bro, I always be held though. Yeah. I knew it. You knew it. I knew it. He wasn't trying to hear it. Nah, nah. And you were cool with it too. You loved it. You were saying back like, yeah, they really got us one. That's hard. But all of them was like that though. Yeah. You see, just the other young niggas went to jail. You know what I'm saying? How old was them when they went to jail? Yeah, they were young. Cuttin' up. Yes, sir. See, yellow one on one. He was in the midst, but he's skated by. You feel him? I mean, did they ever come home or are they home now? But they just didn't ever mess with the music no more. They tapped in.  They still messed with it. Most of them still drop music. Okay, okay, okay. Do you, when do you feel like once, when do you feel like, and I go here with y'all, because y'all was, I was coming from that history. When do you feel like y'all culture, you know what I mean? You gear shifted, was it? Cause I know what you went way up on, that's on me. I know I remember Stevie Wonder and all the other deals, but when do you feel like, okay, this thing is serious. It's taken off in a way that we never knew. It probably was like the first light work album. Yeah. It might've been right before that country rap tune. You see the shift change in country rap tune, yellow beat country rap tune. And by that, I say probably by the time light work came in, you know what I'm saying? It was just so much business coming in to work. You know, me, I just focused on that. And it really kind of, you know what I'm saying? Cheered on my music, but just really was on the manager side of it, on the business side. Cause you was rapping against the nigga at first. Against who? Against y'all and all of them. The young niggas. Rapping against them. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Who was that nigga in there, kid? Who was that nigga in there? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Go David.  I got you. You say what now? No! Shit. So, you know, cause when you go in that booth and y'all together, it's a competition thing.  Am I right? Safe. Safe. They're in the competition, man. You say low, man. Say, man. Man, I was missing you. Lower fool, man. Hey, listen to me, man. No, you ain't, man. I don't see it. I don't know. I was 20. Go get that audio crack. Okay. Yeah, yeah, all right. All right. Say it. No, bro, just pop, man. I was 23 years old, man. These niggas was like 13, 14. Oh, yeah, so they looking up to you. Yeah, man, I was the nigga that's showing them, you know what I'm saying? I was the sense I had to tell you. So you were really showing them kind of how to do in the booth. How to make it come off this way.  That's facts. And if it was something that was weak, you would tell them, that ain't it. Say it, man. Nigga here, yeah. No, man.  That ain't it. Nope. No. Hold on them niggas.  I know they will love it, but you gotta have it. Look at him now. Only not say that because that's what Boosie said that PMC would do to him. Like he always come in like that, that ain't nothing. That ain't it. I can't say I was like that because when he went hard I let the niggas know you can't. I think he did too. I don't think he never did. You gotta think, man. These young niggas were 13, 14, you know what I'm saying? So nah, it's just when they did something good, I had to let them know it was good. But when they did something bad, like, hey. I just didn't know how to do that. But it didn't do too much bad. It wasn't even really bad. It was just like, it was a critique. Like say, bro, you need to go over here and do this and do that. Facts. That's how hard, but this part right here, you know what I'm saying?  And shit, it's aces then. Let's get old Jose Bodega in here and how did y'all run into this guy right here? He always been around. Bro, been around. Man, I want to know how y'all ran into the niggas. Yo, G, we y'all. That was yellow potting, man. Yes, sir. You seen these niggas. You like, I'ma get in that booth here. Bro, been around. Yeah, what it was was I wasn't really into the music at first. Like I said, I was always trying to get some money. But I always been around. Even when, like when yellow used to, when we were young and he was going out of town. He would be there. I was in the car. Always. Yeah, he would drop a verse here and there, a freestyle here and there. He'd come to the studio here and there, but he wouldn't just for real. You know what I'm saying? All the way. You know what I'm saying? But he was there. You know what I'm saying? He was always a part of the entourage. Beginning. You know what I'm saying? That's him. Then, like I say probably about two years ago, he came to me with some music and I was like, damn.  That's all it took.  I'm telling you, that's all it took. I said, how long, man? They sleeping on Bodeigal, bro. I said, ooh, this nigga hurt. Hold on. He said, start sending me more songs. Start sending me more songs. I'm like, bitch, what's up? You know what I'm saying? It's gone. You know what I'm saying? So that's when it came about, like that third book. Bodeigal, Bodeigal, Bodeigal been around, bro. How did you feel about when you sent the music and you got the response? I would just, like I said, it had been, like you say, I had always dropped a little verse here and there, but I never really took the music seriously enough to just do it. Yes, man. You want some water? Yes, man. I ain't know you was fasting around this time. I know. It's just a liquor. Niggas must be. A liquor. Shit. Quit mouthing.  You got a liquor. Shit. I ain't miss no part of the piece. I love the piece. In the head. Say it, man.  For real? Yeah, yeah. I ain't miss no part of the piece, man.  Oh, yeah. Yes, sir. PMG invasion. Say it. PMG take over. And that's why we did it. I thought about it before y'all got here, to be honest, which is just, man, we feel so wrong and kick it. That's what I thought. No. You know, I felt like that was something to show love to the PMG movement because you boy had been putting that work in, in the Dallas area for a long time. And then y'all hit every other city and y'all do us proud. So I just want to say thank you. You know what I'm saying? No, for sure. At the end of the day, you know, it take a serious team to stick together like that for that many years. Say it, man. You know what I'm saying? Family. That's real, bro. I go eat Miss Betty's cooking. Yes, sir. They used to come eat Miss Maddie's cooking. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah.   And lay down. You from Highland Hills, too? Nah, nah, he from South Dallas. I'm from Highland Hills. South Dallas. Both of them from Highland Hills. You from Highland. Okay. You from double O'sel? Double O'sel. Rose Cherry Projects. Yes, sir. My little Kenfo passed away. Little Jeremy, he was over there as a kid. And crazy, man. Like it's just crazy how South Dallas doesn't change so much. It ain't even the same like it used to be. Nah. They don't tow down our projects. I know. It's crazy different. I don't really, you know, like they trying to, it looked like they trying to edge everybody out that thing.  The businesses can't get on there. But they can't move them around. Nah, they can't. But they try. You know what I'm saying? But it ain't. They ain't going nowhere. I was just, I was just looking at a documentary on documentary on Burnton ideal. Yeah. On how it used to be the flood plains. Yep. Yes, sir. And all the people that they moved there was working on Park Road and South Boulevard and the mansions for the white folks. And they put, they put Burnton, they put all the black people in the flood plains, which was Burnton and ideal.   It's a flood down there all the time. They had to build the floodgates down there, man. If you go up under the bridge, you'll see the floodgates over there. Yeah. Shout out to little Shorty Mac. Shorty Mac used to go rap hard back in the days.  That's where I'm from. He used to hit that on. Lizette Wayne. The nigga were rapping, man. Shout out to Lizette Wayne. Lizette Wayne. It's Burnton. It's her. So man, like, like, so let's get back to your story. Like, like when you, when you really, when you came in, you knew that he, he was cool with what you were doing for us on the, on the rap thing, where it's like, damn, you nigga feeling me. I got to turn this whole up so even more. Right. Right. And it was, like I said, I always could rap. I just couldn't, I didn't never take it serious. So once I got with my evil twin, you know what I'm saying? Who I was telling you about that I'd be putting on, you know what I'm saying? On the, on the mic. And she make sure I get, he going to be on every record, every project I ever drop until he catch a bus. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And he basically caught me up with the times. You know what I'm saying? Like what niggas was doing, how niggas was rapping. See, I actually, before I just started music, I took like three to four months to prep myself all the way up to doing music, like doing songs. You know what I'm saying? So that's why, because I really want to make myself one. Like I had, I had to make myself bodega. Like I didn't want, you know what I'm saying? I used to call myself Boli. You know what I'm saying? Like that's what they still call me and how it is. Like, but I had to make myself this person. You know what I'm saying? I had to make sure my lyrics was different. You know what I'm saying? I had to make sure I talk different, act different. You know what I'm saying? Still me. But when I'm Jose Bodega, you know what I'm saying? That's the job. You know what I mean?  Like music, my, I doubt if you'll find somebody that sound like me. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Because I made it that way. Wow. That's, that's heavy. So I mean, you took a lot of time to think how you can do it.  I was like, damn. I heard you rap before.  You know what I'm saying? So as I, as I kept on sending me more songs, I was like, man, okay, cool. We need to go on here.  You need to go ahead and get your album out. Wow. That's heavy. And that's where Mr. Bodega came in at. Wow. Bro used to tell me on the road all the time, check your stuff out. Man. Yeah. Y'all already, you already, you, you watching everybody say, I'm, I'm, I'm I'm in a minute. I'm in a minute. I'm in a minute. I'm in a minute. I gotta ask you something. You was, you was with Y'all this weekend when y'all that with the football thing? No, I wouldn't because my mama and Y'all got the same birthday. You told me that. And my mama passed 2012. So we always do something for her. Okay.  So me just going to go kick it with a lot of time. I can't do it. It's understandable, bro. My mom's coming up on the fourth. Yeah. And it's always something when you, when you when you lost your mama, I lost my mom in 96. Yeah. So it's always a that day right there is something else for me. You know what I'm saying?  I loved it. I just seen a little bit of it.  He did. Yeah. But you know what I'm saying, I put it together for that boy to get out of this. It was live. And then embrace them. Oh yeah. I seen it. I seen it, man. That was live. And that's that's the kind of look that when I see stuff like that, that's the next level. So there's a lot of a lot of people talking and talk, but they ain't doing the stuff that's being done on that level. And I and I always recognize that on this show. You know what I'm saying? And I always check anything at the door when they come down to you know what I'm saying, the movement and what's really going down. And I think that's real. This is real right here. Yeah. And this is right here. And this is right here. So that we'll know where we going. Yeah, man. Because he always put on for the deal. He ain't even from here, but he made this his home too, man. No, he showed love. He showed love. I know he from four miles Florida, but he treat that was like, you know what I'm saying?  Salute the prime. Salute the coach. Prime doing crazy. Great things and they could have some couches out there on the field. I'm not sure. You don't like to lay on couch. The little movie couch. I said, he definitely shining that light on.  So do y'all think so y'all think they're going to take it this year? They do hope so, man. So he got he got the he got the buzz. It's going down. Yeah. I'm sure that I'm going to I don't know. I thought about when he had to fight that Atlanta when the nigga pushed him. You remember when he fighting the nigga? Who was he fighting over there?  It's about respect. It's about respect. Yeah. He shouldn't have with that one the way. But you got to he out there. You know, when we when yellow was saying he dancing and you know, coaches really don't have a swag like that.  That nigga. Wow, man. I love it though. Brought some good energy to that to that team. And they want to play for that boy. Everybody want to come there too. He done brought energy to the whole the whole team. Who is swag? Who is swag? Yes, sir. He did that. He's shining that light on HBCUs. They didn't really get it first. You know what I'm saying? And it take a person like that to do that. Yeah. It's real, bro. It's real, man. Coming from D.N. We salute you from all the way from the city, man. Keep doing your thing, D.N. Man, D.N. Hey, man, it's love over on Boss Talk 101. You mess with my boy Jock Taylor, who comes here frequently. Boss Talk. We gave him an award here. That's who deal with it. Huh? Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Jock Taylor, man. And the drunk folks to the left of me. You know what I'm saying?  Man, hey, man, you know, this is crazy, man. So how you like it on Boss Talk? It's your first time. I'm enjoying it. Chilling. Like I'm just talking to my bro. That's the way it be.  Yeah, nigga. It's like we at the house under the tree. You know what I'm saying? We're at a nigga talk. You remember last time? Yeah, I remember being under that tree a lot. I never got to talk, though. I never let me talk because I went older than the talk. But I could just sit there and listen, though. I love it. You know how we kick it on the boat? Yeah. The same thing. It's the same thing. I love to thank you again. You brought me on there, man. I kicked it. I got to meet everybody.  It was the Gemini badge, man. It was the Gemini badge, man. Say, I just, and I always been in the background, bro. But I found you then. Yeah, you found me. I went, yeah, once you introduced me, and I, he had that glow in his eyes.  Say, I ain't just look at me like that. Yeah. I believe in my bros. Yeah. To this day, I still believe in my bros. How proud are you of the movement and what you with the part of the story? Man, I'm very proud. Very. Very. Wow. That's heavy, man. Because I didn't really know how far back it went. I'm glad that I'm getting to share this history with y'all. Yeah, this is down to 20 years old, man. And let's be real. Let's be real. Y'all ain't never just broke out and talked about this no other time. No. This is the first time. That's what I'm talking about, nigga. I'm soldier, boy. Little cousin in this whole nigga. Say, nigga, this is y'all nigga. I need a first nigga. PMG history going down right here on Ballet Talk. You're more definitely big cousin. No, man. I just, I just love the fact of sharing the history with everybody of what, how this whole thing came to be because a lot of people be wanting to hear this and they don't know. You know what I'm saying? And that's where, and people be, and I hate to say it like this, but a lot of times people be like, man, really Dallas ain't got this. Yeah, they do. But y'all don't identify with y'all. It's, it's a lot of stuff going on here, but the foundation and everything is not recognized a lot of time the way it should be. And they go all the way back to Bobo, nigga. I tell Bobo this all the time. The reason why bro with us, bro, is because we just work, bro.   We really just work and do our thing and let the workfeats speak for itself. Go by the old law. Yeah, man, for sure. That's the old law. See, the old law never really didn't, huh? We instead of saying, you know, sometimes the internet creates its own narrative and some niggas feel like it's of them to get on there and correct these people with shit, man. We just let the workfeats stop. But the old law is different than the new law. You know that, don't you? People in the old law like it's a different respect factor the way they move. I would say J. Prince go by the old law. Most definitely. You know what I'm saying? So it's like when you go by the old law you don't do things like everybody else. It's going to be a distinct difference but then when people see you, they're going to respect you. You see what I'm saying? And they're going to be like that's them boys. They know already it goes without saying cause of the work that you're talking about.  So it's like You got respect in the city and in the hood and in different cities. That's the whole game. What's the key words you keep saying? Respect. That's what it's about. Yeah. And I'm going to respect everybody. They respect me.  That's why I mean I be kicking it man.    I'm going to show the good, the bad, the ugly. I'm being real, but y'all going to respect what's going on.  It ain't easy. Y'all niggas and just talked about 13 niggas. 13. Niggas, you got to understand this 20 years man. Yeah bro. Yeah. Yeah. We talking about a couple of decades man. This ain't nothing to play with bro. And we all still close. All of us man. All of us. I can pick up my phone right now. Call y'all. He going to pick up. Facts.  But people that don't know us there think we're bumping in. Nah. Really?  That just happens. We all have heard no craziness when it come to y'all bro. Yeah. Because it ain't going to never be like that with me. You know what I'm saying? Like it's been straight straight being there.  Like nobody even if we have a disagreement it won't be in front of nobody. You know what I'm saying? We just on road like that. Yeah. Yeah.  You know what I'm saying? He was like out here on the forefront. You know what I'm saying? Like you would and that came when that's on me thing took off like it did. It made everybody look this way. Yeah. Say man I called a bro for the long with big and for that song. You don't put it out. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Because he was doing shows for trapping designer and he had recorded I think I didn't go that time. My boy Squeaky Mac took him down at that time for me. Shout out to my boy Squeaky Mac. Maurice Mac. You know what I'm saying?  I'm not worth a word but like it was so easy to catch on to. They called that home. That's when we knew it was time to put it out. Wow. That's crazy.  See that song. See that song, bro. That whole going same. I heard it. I know it. He knew it was it. He told you? Yeah, he told me. He said that's it. He said it's the same, bro.  That's it right there. You need to go ahead and put it all out. That's it. And that one went straight from there. And that that that woke a lot of niggas up. Man, they got to respect a little, bro. They got to respect a little, bro. I don't. Do you feel like he's respected on that level? Nope. You don't think so? I'll be real with you. I don't agree with that. The music scene respects him.  Like people, you know how they hate on yellow niggas. That's really what it be. Say. Hey, I would tell you what it is, bro. It's the nigga that had bro. Every time he do something, bro, it's like, damn, okay, when he gonna. That's gonna be the last one. And then they always come back with another one. And another one.   I be seeing it like the niggas already solidified. Most definitely. Most definitely.  So I don't have to. It's so many people when you can leave wherever you go, you know, first of all, he handled itself when I was around him in the way you're supposed to. You know what I'm saying? So that's the whole game was at the end of the day. As long as he doing that, a lot of niggas, they ain't gonna be able to get up to you. It was something that I think it was chief said on here where, no, it wasn't chief. It was it was show, show nickname show. Y'all might not know show. You might know show. I remember show. Show was on his show. Was talking about the fact of he went to Hollad chief. Yeah. And when he went to Hollad him, he didn't really show him the love. He felt he deserved. But then he thought about it. When he got older and said, man, nigga, they know me, nigga, he got a gyrone. He doing this thing. You know what I'm saying? He don't know what I'm trying to get close to him for. Yeah. This is a lot of time what be the scenario to see what am I right though? I feel like it's more so how you carry yourself.  I never feel like you disrespected them. If you handle everybody the same. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like handle motherfucker. Like my granny always told me, like it don't matter who it is. You look a man in the eye and you respect them until they give you a reason not to. That's real. So it's principle. You know what I'm saying? I agree with that.  Yeah, you do. That's what I was. You know what I mean? Right. Because you could let the wrong person in your circle if you not prayed up. I'm a praying man. So it's always like who am I? I deal with a lot of people, man. So it's like who am I really picking this phone of calling like this? You know what I'm saying? And that's the cold part because then you got like what is the person's purpose if he want to be in my circle? I'm a known solidified artist is what I'm saying for a person even when he was hustling in the streets. Now I know about that part. You know what I'm saying? Like you're not going to let everybody come up to you and be trying to hang with you and trying to you don't trust nothing. Okay. Circles don't hold anyone. Especially if you get that money. Circles don't open. Especially if you get that cash. Especially if you get that cash. That cash.  That's right. I get in there. You remember on Nino Brown when Ice-T came strolling through at the basketball park? Who is that nigga? Right? You can stand next to the circle but he ain't going to be in that motherfucker. That's real. That's why we like family. That's real. We're not friendly like that. At all. No.  You said the grass rooted, man. But what do you think about when people say y'all are not affording people opportunities because y'all been holding it down so long and y'all pretty much maybe y'all part of the problem?  Yeah, that BMG. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily say that. But you ought to say what I'm saying. For real. Like if a nigga trying to get on, he got to try to get at you. But he got to be serious though, bro. He got to be serious. He going to look at y'all and get intimidated. Them niggas ain't nobody else been with them for 30 years. Nah, man. Nah, it ain't like that. It ain't like that. We talking about on a family stuff. Shout out GMB Mack, man. That's a new guy? Yeah, yeah, Mack. He kind of new to the whole situation? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Shout that boy out. Yeah, that's real. Miles. Miles, too. Yeah, Miles, too. So, how did you link with those guys? I'm just trying to feel the process for these young niggas be calling me, trying to ask me how to, you know, can I get in the game or how my music sound? Young nigga popping in the streets. Popping in the streets. Yeah. Taking over his school with his high school and stuff like that. The background come back straight.  Yeah, nah, most different. Well, they do that part. I'm just rapping. But we ain't with the problem. We don't want to deal with the extra problem.  You know what I'm saying? Dude, y'all niggas gonna be on fire or they out. But we don't want to deal with the extra problem. And then, too, man, you know, it's all about your report card, man. Your report card gotta be up to par, man. You know what I'm saying?  Okay. Yeah.    I just do a little sip really about a drink. Call that boy a little baby. Say you can't smoke in here, nigga.  You know what I'm saying? The PMG done been together all those years, bro. Yeah. And that takes some real stumped-down cats to even hold it together that long. You know what I'm saying? And for niggas to even stay interested that long. You know what I mean?   Man, look, baby, and this is going on. But it started with the foundation, though, bro. It started with the foundation. Well, you got two-sided cat mess with each other, get it out the mud. What do you expect? Yeah, that's real. To expect. That's to be respected. You know what I'm saying? Now, I just appreciate you guys for the drive and motivation to keep everything going. So, let's talk about this Bodega one time. I want to hear about because we're going to about to end this whole in a little bit. But tell me about, okay, when is this when is this project going to drop? You got a tease out there or something? Tomorrow. Yeah, it's actually dropping tomorrow at 12. At 12? Yeah. And that will go in. It's going crazy. What video is going to be? Is it got a video lunching already on it? No, the video going to be dropping soon. Okay. Like I said, I got behind on trying to get that project done. Yeah. And I'll take the blame for that. We got a guy flying in from New York. What's the name? Spike Tarantino. Okay. Coming out here to shoot a couple videos filming from New York. You know what I'm saying? I had, like say, reaching out to new people. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.  He'll be here tomorrow too. So, actually the day that the album drop, I'm going to be working. That's good. That's good. Like I want to see that nigga going to paint this picture. It's coming soon after. Yeah. I'm going to jam it though. I'm going to jam it. You got to link me in. I see that's the thing. The lyrics are painting a picture for you. No, I get it man. But it ain't nothing like seeing my nigga OJ Bodega going in. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. You already heard it. What? I got in my phone. You wanted the ears. Yeah. I quit playing, man. I didn't want to hear them. Say big bro. Yeah, nigga? Big bro, man. He definitely done a good job. They're going to send it to you. So they ain't gonna be lying. Yes, sir, sir. You know telling everyone say all those big part of the project, but then they get like going to put it in there with it sliding along back away.  They're going to be respect you. Great sir. Yeah, we're going to all We gonna listen. Yes, sir.   You know what I'm saying? That nigga school to us and everybody just being as a whole, just you know what I'm saying? Pick the projects out. That's heavy. That's heavy. Come on. Then we presented to the like. I like that. No, I don't know. I said, I definitely know the process was heavy before even this interview because of the way it land. Yeah. Can't land and if it ain't, if it ain't, you know what I'm saying? Got to be something going on. You know the niggas just throwing stuff out there. You can tell. It feel like they just threw it out there. They just got put some respect on my bro. They ain't dope. Why do you keep saying that? Because they do. Are you talking about Dallas? Yella B, they got put some respect. I say you to my Dallas cause you and I both know when they get these cities, these people going crazy, bro. Am I right? Yeah, you're right. So I don't look at it that way. One of the best to come about the city, man. And it's known. I don't know why. Are you tripping? Cause I don't think so. I ain't tripping. He just really hard about it. I take that personally though, bro. But I don't understand what's, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a friend. I'm a fan. So I'm, I'm looking at it like, how do you see it? May you see something? I don't see. This nigga goes through and read all the comments. Yes, sir. We hear what the. Yes, sir. All the comments. Man, I'm going down now. Down through there. That's why he, nigga don't do that. You read all the comments. I don't read the. I don't read the. Hold on. Hold on. Don't do that. Been with me since 13. So you take it personally? Yes, I do. Everything? Yeah. I take it personally about a lot. Bodega. Yes, I do. Personal. That's just me. I get it. Now nothing gets nobody here. That's just me. Now I feel you tapped in. It's love. Yeah. Yeah. You read every comment. My bro going through. I'm going through. Yeah. It's like that. Wow. That's heavy, man. But that's love. That's family. That's family. Yeah. I can't afford for you to be looking at all the comments doing that. Neither you. I had to stop. I stopped this a couple of years ago. I mean, I've never been one to read the comment. I've never really been in. Like I said, I'll be in tune to the social media. But most folks don't say something to me. They're going to have to come to me and say it.  And I'm outside every day. But you don't move me, though. You know what I'm saying?  I think the most important thing is to stay focused on the prize, man.  You know what I mean? You know what I mean? We're trying to get more prizes because we can get some prizes. I know. I know already, you know, there hasn't a lot of time that hate going to pop up in your face and do it to me. Yeah. I just need to be focused, man. I'll be like, nigga, what? Oh, he said, what? Let me get this right here. Say, no, little bro, just made real music. Man, I love his music. I'm a fan, too. Yeah. Yeah. I ain't gonna stunt with all the defamation of character going out there. You know what I'm saying? And that kind of slowed my career down a little bit in the beginning. You know what I'm saying? Because of the way people was doing it. Yeah. Yeah. So that's why I pressed so hard for this, the name of this album. You know what I'm saying? Because like y'all looking at this, but this really what it is. You know what I mean? And you know what I mean? Like I say, that's why I say people, they pay attention to the wrong thing. But I felt that way when you interviewed last time. I feel like you still was at that point trying to be like my character is this, but these niggas saying this or feeling this way. Right. And I felt that the first project when you was here before, to be honest with you. Right. But I still respected the project when it came out and I knew where you were going with it.  Right. It humanized you for me. Right. Right. You understand what I'm saying? That's where I'm at with it. You know what I'm saying? And I don't forget. Right. You know what I'm saying? I don't forget nothing. I go back and chill. You don't know what I'm doing. You know, that nigga right there. Yeah. That's how I am. Yeah. Because I'm the same nigga. Exactly. $100 a million. I like that. I'm still that same nigga. Like I say, I stand on principle. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I've always been like that. So, you know, my grandma put that in me and it ain't going to go nowhere. No time soon. You write. You definitely write, man. Damn. Why am I turning this on? Because he got his camera. I picked mine up. I'm going to be like little D's in this all. No. I was trying to record something while I got y'all on panel. So he wouldn't be the only one with it. I asked Mr. Maker to come out here and do me a behind the scene. But no, she didn't do it. So I got to do my own behind the scene. I need my bro Lo to draw one more album. Everybody asking for that. Do you know that? Like it was a dude over here the other day. Fat Pimp came over here the other day. Yeah. Just one more. One more. One more. Say, I'm going to give him one more.  What was that last night? What was that last night?  I think it was night before that. Yeah. I was telling him. I said, hey, man. I think I can get you. I think I can get you now.  You know, I'm a sensei, man. Mr. Miyagi, man. These niggas came from my goddamn Miyagi dough. You feel what I'm saying? I'm real. They came from the dough job. This is man. Hey, Fat Pimp said that boy got some, man. I don't know. Lo, hey. Say, I'm telling you. Lo hard. Lo hard. Lo hard. And that's a lot of where I come from about it.  So that's what I stand on. Like that lyrical, you know what I'm saying? Words. I'm going to say the same shit, but it's going to come out different to where you can understand it. And that's a lot of what Lo did.  Now, face. You ain't goin' in. What made you just, why did you just stop? You wanted to focus on yellow? Well, you know what I'm sayin', at the time, I was on the one hand on the business, you know what I'm sayin'? It was movin' so fast, and everything was goin' like that, man. So, you know, I just prioritized it, you know what I'm sayin'? to where this was the business at hand, so. How many do you and y'all got somethin' together?   You want me to put them out, though? I got some songs with Yella and Snooty Wilde, I got some songs with... I heard about it. The only reason I heard about it was through Fat Pimp. Yeah. Fat Pimp said, then they got a whole catalog, and he gon' let it out. Tell you, bro. Yeah, it's comin', though, man. I got you, I got you. I gon' be happy when you bring that while. Yeah, we're supposed to be doin' a PMG compilation, right? That'll be hard. It'll be hard. Nah, we feel to do it. Yeah, we doin' that, too. Nah, we feel to do that. Yeah. That's comin'. Yeah. You see, at the time when we was trying to do it once before, a few years ago, it was before... Bodega was rapping fully, and it was before everybody that was on the label got out. We had Sir Rick, he was locked up. We had... Kobe, locked up. Kobe, young Kobe locked up. We had... Monstra was in and out, too. Yup. So, you know what I'm sayin'? Now everybody home, so it's time. Top three artists of all time did or alive. Any genre. You say what they're repeatin'? Any genre. Tell them, tell them, baby. Top three artists of all time did or alive. Pot, Gotti, yellow. Man, that boy say, Pot, your Gotti, yellow. And yellow. That nigga top three, y'all. Yeah, Scooter Mac, just... Dropped it like that? You know what I'm sayin'? No, sir. Yes, sir. Why, why, how does, why, I ain't gonna say Pot, but why, why, why your Gotti? Because I come from that background. What did you... Speed. The hustle. The way he hustled, the way he went out there and get it. I come from that. And yellow, what, I don't even have to ask you about yellow. Yeah, you seen him from Neha from a grasshop. You know what I'm sayin'? No, I don't. The bro make hits. Good music. You got this to his albums. You probably hear everything, some stuff we don't even get to hear. Nigga, I don't want to talk to you. I do. I'mma sit like hell, nigga. Yes, sir. The dudes and the dudes. Yeah, yeah.  Yes, sir.  Yes, sir. How did you like that... He had that PMC on there, he had that badass yellow boy. My favorite is football dreams. That's the favorite one for me? Yes, sir. Ziggy made it. Ziggy made that beat. Man, listen to that song. That'll go in. Man. Yeah, yeah. Say, man. Yeah. I used to play football. Oh, yeah? Yeah. What position? Corner back.  I like it, I like it. School to make it hard. I like it. School to make it hard. Hey, you used to play or you didn't play? Yeah, I played football in the best way. What position you play? I played outside linebacker and I played left field. Outside linebacker, you was there, you stuffing them niggas back in there like that? Oh, yeah, I was strong. I was a nigga who played sports up low. I just played goddamn meat. You played the women, though. I know. I played them too. I played them too. But... Ah! I played them too. Now watch yourself son, I'm married. I don't do nothing else. No, I said you. I'm not talking about you. You, school to Mac. Yeah, don't do that. Hold on, my wife... No, okay. Don't put me out there. I don't put me out there. I ain't know nothing about nothing. Check it, man. Check it, man. It's been another great seven of balls. One on one. Now... School to Mac, you said it right. Yeah. My wife back there. Okay.  I'm thinking school to Mac.  Already. What about you? Let's talk about you. You single or what's up? No. Put it out there. I got a little something, something going on. Okay, okay. I'm just saying, you know... I didn't go to old school. You know, my granny always said... What she said? Yeah, but... They don't be in the same show business. They don't be in the same show business.  That boy's... It's like granny put your mom back there. They don't always... Grandma's gonna put... Grandma's in, man. That boy, Jamie Foxx, I always be saying that grandma's in, man. You know what I'm saying? She gave me a little guy. Bill Whittles. Huh? Yeah, that boy, man. I liked him. But Jamie rocked it. I wouldn't be jamming. No, for sure. You be jamming that thing. Man, shut out the Trio Tixxes, man. Jamie Foxx, man. Yes, sir. Yeah, that's one of them guys, man. So what can we look for next after this project from Jose Wu coming in? A bunch of videos, man.  Oh, yeah. Y'all feel it. Y'all feel it. Y'all feel it. Me and Yalla got a single that's gonna drop a little bit after the album drop two. Okay. It's gonna be real hot. Who's gonna go in? Oh, yeah. I already know you're gonna do your thing on there. Oh, yeah. I was dead. You can't slide back on that. You got to come with it, nigga. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I've seen the last one. Y'all did it. You know what I'm saying? You held your own, dude? Oh, yeah. I got two, man.  Yeah, yeah. It's hard to see to my world. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Check it, man. They looking for you, man. They looking for the album. Let me know. Bam. You got two or three cameras on. Just talking. Well, it's gonna be on all digital platforms. You know what I'm saying? It's all digital platforms like Apple Music, Pandora, Spotify, Tik Tok, Tata Al. Deezer. Deezer. Apple Play. What's that? Google Play. Google Play. Yeah. So it's gonna be on YouTube. It's gonna be on pretty much every platform. You know, I always find me on Instagram, GRCX, PNG, Jose Bodega, Jose Bodega on Facebook, and I am Jose on Twitter. It's gonna make.  You know what I'm saying? You're gonna come back and see me again. This won't be your last visit. This ain't the last time. Don't do me like that, man.  Nah, man, my bro had to stomp down and talk. Y'all did? Yeah, man. Oh, nigga, out. Nah, I said, we had that talk. All the time. Nah, man. We had that talk, bro. Say, yeah, outside. Yeah, man. But it's the first stop, right? You see?  Nigga, don't let this be the last time I see you up in here.  He can always come back. Nigga, just pull up. Come to eat, man. I told you that with me. You talked back to the boat. I said, you did. I call that nigga, man. You know, I'm crazy. A real talk. Man, I call that nigga. I said, nigga, what's up, man? Real talk. I did that, bro.  That nigga sleep me out. I didn't know. I should have called you, low D's and said, man. I know that nigga. I didn't get it. Nah, life just was going on. You just chilling. You weren't trying to. And plus, nigga, you know, you on the other side of the earth, but it's all good. Life's real. Say, life's real. Well, man, thank y'all, man. I wanna thank PMG for everything they done for the city, man. Thank y'all for coming through, man. Y'all always welcome to come here. Y'all been coming here. So at the end of the day, we were always, that door was always open. You know what I'm saying? Any project coming out, he already know how to get to me. I don't even be tripping. If he feel like he be going all the time. And you going with him? Yeah, same, man. He just started going with you. Comfort to get out. School to be on the road with us, man. I thought that nigga be at the house. Same. That nigga played me, man.  That nigga played me, man. That nigga, I'm at the barbershop. I'm doing it. What? Say, I just told you a family. I thought you was a family. The way he did it, it made me feel like he was retired or something. You know what I'm saying? We did that, but I'm doing this now. I always been like that, though. My brother, man, I'm cool. That nigga, we went to Cali. That nigga stayed at the house. He was Dallas OG, my nigga. We went to, we went to, we went to. You probably be, you guys say, PMG is all the same. I made sure that van got them to Cali, though. See? That's what matters. See the word hand in hand. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It take, yeah, it take money to get that van to go. So you just like, I'm just chilling, but they, my boy, they getting to it. Man, boy was out there. That's why you got a lot of love for him. Everybody nigga, man. Shit, man. For real, man. Say, man, a lot of times, man, some people in your life for a reason, some people in your life for a season. Yeah, yeah. School of Magical, one of them niggas that stayed at the house. Man. Same here, bro. Man, that's love, man. No, man. You've been holding it down, nigga, rapping and tapping, nigga. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Thank y'all for coming on the show, man. Hey, man, look, man. Check it, man. It's been another great segment. Boss talk.  Boss talk 101.  Nah, man. Definitely. Yeah, sir.


Y'all ever put some butter in your coffee just some straight-up butter That's what I'm rolling with right now. Hmm. Let's give it a whirl. Let's give it a try It's how we're gonna start today's video off some buttery free range. I think I got mostly butter on that one Okay, yeah, not really having the effect. I thought it was going to definitely lubes it up But the flavor it's not like a buttered biscuit. I'll tell you I think they call this bullet proof coffee or something like that Stephanie was telling me about the keto peeps. That's how they do it. They roll up with that fat all the time I'm not so sure I'm a fan of that big things happening today We got a meat hall going to pick up our sausage Yeah, I've already saw that how that goes down going to Eddie raised to get my sausage and some other antlers and Y'all I Can't believe it's done already, but my dear my big buck from this year is already done I got an early first week archery season and the taxidermist got to work on it and got it done so fast So it's already ready to pick up if I would have if I would have to go to that taxidermist right now It would take him six months to do but it only took him one month because I got it in early That's way to do it. I actually went on a hog hunt last night. I Only ended up seeing deer. There was one little buck that came through Kind of some cool branching on a little buck and then there were some does I was literally about to get out of the tree and then You know that sound they make I was like, oh there you go There was some deer like right under me a plan was I was gonna take the hog and I was gonna take it to the meat processors today and get some other stuff made out of it, but Didn't work out that way good news is I've already gotten a lot of meat in the freezer I'm gonna get me a Bucky's breakfast taco and we were picking up The deer that I've been waiting on so anxiously and we're gonna put it up on the wall. So let's go get it The beaver has provided That's mice got my taco Eddie raise making that deer goodness Let's go pick up the meats There's a quite a bit more meat than I was expecting I filled up to 45 quart coolers and then there's still some so Way more that's a good thing though. I'm gonna give some of this to my parents and family friends and things like that So it's not like I'm just slamming deer meat every day, although I pretty much do I'm gonna show y'all how much meat it is here in just a second But I really wanted to make sure that come next spring when I'm hitting it hard on the terror when I'm on that terror life I don't want to stop It is so expensive y'all to go out eat every day and then you know buy snacks buying like beef jerky Gas station stuff like that number one. I mean beef jerky every day just gets cold Yeah, also it clogs up your system and the deer meat is just so good so delicious I know where it came from and I'm gonna have a lot of it ready in the cooler to just hit it Keep fishing. Don't stop. It's gonna be like a dad. Go John B Series Anyway, this kind of seems like a repeat of a video. I did the other day But I'm literally on my way to see mullet man right now Because he has my deer head. He picked it up. It would have been another hour drive south And then I'd have to come by all the way back out here So he sent me a bunch of time shout out to mullet man. Well, I would have Taken y'all outside the truck, but it is nasty. It's getting colder by the second and it's raining Who's here? Old mr. Chocolatey delicious. You can't really see his antlers too good Let me try to show you guys the primo shots when we get back to the treehouse mullet man He was with me when I shot this deer. He filmed it. Did a great job He's uh, he's since he started the YouTubes Our deers were like right next to each other at the at the processing place He had a fallow and I had a white tail.  I don't know. I don't know a good good name for this deer We got to come up with that. I guess I'll let you guys Decide the name. This is my first big buck keeping mine And we're gonna put it up on the wall at the treehouse got to get OSG's approval on the spot But I think I got it picked out. It's gonna be Check stop If you live in Texas if you're a Texan you got to stop at the check stop If you're not a Texan and you pass them through Texas on 35 you got to stop at the check stop I feel like I just point out things on 535 for you guys look at my bill from Eddie rays that they gave me a little discount because of the Shout out. I guess it got out. So they gave me a discount. Thank you. Thank you Eddie rays. I appreciate it I guess a little you know a little honest kindness sometimes pays back Gotta make a pit stop at the big green roof over here my trail camera sucks now first of all y'all Three of my trail cameras got washed away and the diagram rains I know that sounds crazy the light came up 13 feet and leg just came up so much.  That's not a sucky one basically things come into the yard That hogs mainly I can just barely pick up see I think I had a bobcat last night. I was like 90 percent sure. I'd be like man I'd love to be a hundred percent sure. It wasn't like I got a cheap camera It was a stealth cam. Anyways, I think I want to give a bush now a shot I've looked at some trucking up some picks from quite a few bush now and they look pretty tasty So I'm gonna go in here and see what they got see if they got anything on sale. Maybe a Christmas special You hold down the fort back there mr. Chocolate Yeah, not to be fully named yet fishing freaks will name you don't worry see y'all back here in a minute And I am gonna be shopping with my hands only Rule of thumb when you're going into the green roof so you don't spend too much Always asking for that Okay, so sometimes you go to the stores with the big green roofs and you come home with Redneck feeders. I don't know what to say. I apologize, honey, but I Kind of bought some things. I ended up getting one of these brownings literally because it didn't have one of those Things on the peg that doesn't allow you to take it off. I was gonna get the bush nails But this one was free to take off and it says Night viz which I've had problems getting good night visibility and full HD video 1920 by 1080 Which is what I post my videos in which means I get to share with you guys in real color and it's got a 80 foot span of Night detection and we got ourselves a little t-post deal for for putting in the yard here Overflowing with the goods The meats These are the ultimate boat snacks and or just outdoor snacks. I've got tons of these. There's actually more in the cooler I've got one full of straight summer sausage and one has like everything in it and then over here We have our deer head, which I'm going to do a European mount myself my leftover Brazilian Tigerwood turn this up for you There it is So I'm gonna use that board right there on another project I really give myself a lot of projects ABCs always be creating feels good feels good when you create stuff build stuff And when people like it, you know like you're liking this video right now appreciate it. Thank you You don't like it right now. You're gonna love it when I take the deer head that's inside of the truck And I put it up there This is the area of the house that we've given the least amount of attention to so far But what I'm envisioning it being because it has the best of you It's where you can look out over the lake and see that all the trees and stuff have My animals in there make it like a library, you know like a woodsman library have like the old books of the you know exploring the outdoors and just early outdoorsman type stuff I want to recreate some black and white photographs of Things I've done with other youtubers and just myself my family They just give it that old cabin feel great thing about right now. It's gonna be freezing tonight So I really don't have to worry about this meat or my deer head. I Don't have to worry about my deer head spoiling So I can pretty much just leave it out. It's not gonna matter this stuff right here is refrigerator worthy and ready to go So we're gonna take this in Just kind of give you guys an idea what we're working with here That is some summer sausage that entire thing is full Over here We have similar situation.  Keep you dangling through the coldest of times Thinking about just leaving this out here. So it's gonna be freezing But now in the finale the peace to be as the rest is false. How do they say that France? That's a big old white tail, isn't it? See it's not impressed yet. That's okay. Yeah daddy keeps ringing on animals nasty nasty. What do you mean? It's foam. Oh, okay. What do you think it was guts? It looked like it No, so it's a pedestal. So it goes like like this right here So it'll be up there center cool with that We're still where it doesn't look good. It looks great everywhere We'll have to get old chocolatey delicious here at Christmas tree. That's how we got his chocolatey horns He brought them on Cedar Street This head needs to be good Look at his center of his antlers, which one is yours? All right, this head's gonna be here. He is up. He is up.  Oh He looks so nice so majestic. Love you very much Feels fantastic go out the first week of both season shoot a majestic old luck like that super wide super unique Probably six and a half years old process it Put it in my family's kitchen and then get them up here on the wall here at the tree house It's it's fantastic Happy happy happy the way it turned out. I would give you guys the name and the tax nervous Quite honestly the guy is so busy. He probably doesn't want your business I don't mean that in a bad way. He's already super slammed right now. It's in the middle of deer season So maybe some other time, but I think you did a great job got it done really fast And just in comparison my ram that I took to another place It won't be ready until like next spring, but I'm gonna leave it up to you guys to name come up with a creative name for This guy whether to have something to do with me in my first trophy buck by the way 137 and a half inches. I think 140 is considered like actually trophy for low-fence, but he's trophy for me Okay, hit the like button from that point right there. I got my ducks over here I'm gonna have some other ducks mounted and Basically, this is where I'm gonna have like all my my nice shoulder mounts and things like that going forward And it's kind of empty right now. So it's perfect You guys have been with me on a lot of these adventures And I'm super glad and proud to have you here for each and every one of them and being able to experience the whole complete adventure from learning archery to to now to this point being able to just confidently go out go hunt and Film it with you guys and then you know, sometimes you get trophies like this It's not all about trophies But I I would be lying if I would if I said I was not proud to have this dear As always, you know what to do subscribe right here to the channel y'all if you're feeling the vibes Can't wait to make more videos for y'all and I love the outdoors Make sure you're going out and join the outdoors having a very blessed day and I will see you


So it's not a secret, Lady Aida. OK. Got two things. All right, first up. First up, we posted this on the socials and more. What is it? Oh, you know, I'm redoing all of our sensor boards to be STEMI QT. And the Vemmel 7700 was one of the last sensors we did in the old style before we added STEMI QT connectors to everything. And so I was looking at this sensor for some other reason. And I was like, oh my god, I forgot to convert this over to STEMI QT. So I'm doing it. And I also found that we can get this sensor in both vertical and horizontal mount.  And so I thought I'd make two versions. And that's why the light sensor is kind of at the top there. It's very rare to find a light sensor that's right angle. Usually they just point straight out from the PCB. So I thought it could be interesting to make a version that's pointing outwards. And so you could edge mount it onto something if you wanted to do light sensing that way. OK. And then next up, you had a thing you wanted to show? Oh, yeah. I can plug this in. Yeah, plug this into the battery in this battery. All right, here we go. Yeah, OK. So for the? I'm going to turn the line off on this. I know. It does not like the bright LEDs. It's like, what are you doing? Add it. I must add it. It doesn't like it. Got it? OK. Ah, that's good enough. So we had the LED ring mapping done. And now I did the matrix mapping. So you can see it's a 16 by 5 matrix of RGB LEDs. Yeah, it's looking at it again. But it actually kind of looks cool. It's got a little funky look. And you can see that the LED mapping, especially around here with the rings, actually, it's a little bit uneven. But it means that we can have an overlay ring as well as a matrix. That's why you see, like, this little lady right here is kind of pushed in a little bit. And this one's a little pushed out. This one right here is where you see the ring and the matrix kind of intersect. But I think it's good enough. OK. And that's this week's top secret. Back in the vault. Back in the vault.


We continue today with chapter 20. Heralds of Eternity In this world, God's Son comes closest to Himself in a holy relationship. There, He begins to find the certainty His Father has in Him. And there, He finds His function of restoring His Father's laws to what was held outside them and finding what was lost. Only in time can anything be lost and never lost forever. So do the parts of God's Son gradually join in time, with each thought joining is the end of time brought nearer. Each miracle of joining is a mighty herald of eternity. No one who has a single purpose, unified and sure, can be afraid. No one who shares His purpose with Him cannot be one with Him. Each herald of eternity sings of the end of sin and fear. Each speaks in time of what is far beyond it. Two voices are raised together, called to the hearts of everyone, to let them beat as one. And in that single heartbeat is the unity of love proclaimed and given welcome. Peace be to your holy relationship, which has the power to hold the unity of the Son of God together. You give to one another for everyone, and in your gift is everyone made glad. Forget not who has given you the gifts you give. And through your not forgetting this, will you remember who gave the gifts to Him to give to you? It is impossible to overestimate your brother's value. Only the ego does this, but all it means is that it wants the other for itself, and therefore values him too little. What is inestimable clearly cannot be evaluated. Do you recognize the fear that rises from the meaningless attempt to judge what lies so far beyond your judgment? You cannot see it. Judge not what is invisible to you, or you will never see it, but wait in patience for its coming. It will be given you to see your brother's worth when all you want for him is peace. And what you want for him, you will receive. How can you estimate the worth of him who offers peace to you? What would you want except his offering? His worth has been established by his father, and you will recognize it as you will receive his father's gift through him. What is in him will shine so brightly in your grateful vision that you will merely love him and be glad. You will not think to judge him, for who would see the face of Christ and yet insist that judgment still has meaning? For this insistence is of those who do not see. Vision or judgment is your choice, but never both of these. Your brother's body is as little used to you as it is to him. When it is used only as the Holy Spirit teaches, it has no function. For minds need not the body to communicate. The sight that sees the body has no use which serves the purpose of a holy relationship. And while you look upon your brother thus, the means and end have not been brought in line. Why should it take so many holy instances to let this be accomplished when one would do? There is but one. The little breath of eternity that runs through time like golden light is all the same. Nothing before it, nothing afterwards. You look upon each holy instant as a different point in time. It never changes. All that it ever held or will ever hold is here right now. The path takes nothing from it, and the future will add no more. Here then is everything. Here is the loveliness of your relationship with means and end and perfect harmony already here. Here is the perfect faith that you will one day offer to your brother already offered you. And here the limitless forgiveness you will give each other already given.  Can you evaluate the giver of a gift like this? Would you exchange this gift for any other? This gift returns the laws of God to your remembrance. And merely by remembering them, the laws that held you prisoner to pain and death must be forgotten. This is no gift your brother's body offers you. The veil that hides the gift hides him as well. He is the gift and yet he knows it not. No more do you and yet have faith that he who sees the gift in both of you will offer and receive it for you both. And through his vision will you see it. And through his understanding recognize it and love it as your own. Be comforted and feel the Holy Spirit watching over you in love and perfect confidence in what he sees. He knows the Son of God and shares his father's certainty in the universe. Rest in his gentle hands in safety and in peace. Let us consider now what he must learn to share his father's confidence in him. What is he that the creator of the universe should offer it to him and know it? Rest in safety. He looks upon himself not as his father knows him. And yet it is impossible the confidence of God should be misplaced. And from the workbook lesson 162. I am as God created me. This single thought held firmly in mind would save the world. From time to time we will repeat it as we reach another stage in learning. It will mean far more to you as you advance. These words are sacred for they are the words God gave in answer to the world you made. By them it disappears and all things seen within its misty clouds and vaporous illusions vanish as these words are spoken. For they come from God. Here is the word by which the Son became his father's happiness, his love and his completion. Here creation is proclaimed and honored as it is. There is no dream these words will not dispel. No thought of sin and no illusion which the dream contains that will not fade away before their might. They are the trumpet of awakening that sounds around the world. The dead awake in answer to its call and those who live and hear this sound will never look on death. Holy indeed is he who makes these words his own arising with them in his mind, recalling them throughout the day at night bringing them with him as he goes to sleep. His dreams are happy and his rest secure, his safety certain and his body healed because he sleeps and wakens with the truth before him always. He will save the world because he gives the world what he receives each time he practices the words of truth. Today we practice simply for the words we use are mighty and they need no thoughts beyond themselves to change the mind of him who uses them. So holy is it changed that it is now the treasury in which God places all his gifts and all his love to be distributed to all the world. Increased in giving kept complete because its sharing is unlimited. And thus you learn to think with God. Christ's vision has restored your sight by salvaging your mind. We honor you today. Yours is the right to perfect holiness you now accept with this acceptance is salvation brought to everyone. For who could cherish sin when holiness like this has blessed the world? Who could despair when perfect joy is yours available to all as remedy for grief and misery, all sense of loss and for complete escape from sin and guilt? And who would not be brother to you now you his redeemer and his savior? Who could fail to welcome you into his heart with loving invitation eager to unite with one like him in holiness? You are as God created you these words dispel the night and darkness is no more. The light is come today to bless the world for you have recognized the Son of God and in that recognition is the world's. Amen.


I'm Becky. I'm a consultant with Pivotal, a tech products and services company that helps enterprises adopt cloud-native development and product development practices, lean product management, and user-centered design. I work with our clients to develop, ingrain, and adapt methods for leading teams of software engineers, product designers, and product managers. This is the awesome group of folks that I work with. We color-coordinated on accident, I promise. So my background is in graphic design. I'm a huge fan of all types of art and design, and I'm so lucky and proud to be part of design today because we are in a really exciting time for our field. Business is now understanding the value of design, and I'm even more excited to see how much they're investing in it. There's been a huge explosion just in the past few years of how much value people place on experience design and product design. But of course, with greater exposure comes a greater set of problems for the design community to solve. So today I'm going to talk about two problems that we face as designers or as people who work with designers. And I'll also talk about a very simple and perhaps even obvious solution. So problem number one, tech moves fast. Some of our speakers this morning talked about this. It's almost too fast for us to really comprehend all of the new technologies available to us today, all the new products and services. The world around us is changing rapidly. And as designers, we're scrambling to figure out how to design within that change so that we can build the best version of tomorrow. So when we think tech, we often think screens, but as Steven was talking about this morning, you have to broaden your thinking when you hear the word tech. We're bombarded with screens right now, but we're moving past that. That's just one corner of the vast landscape that is technology, right? It's our washers and dryers, it's trains, it's solar power, it's augmented reality, virtual reality, conversational robots. It goes on and on, right? This is all stuff that needs designing. And most of what we experience today is infused with technology. So the pace of technology is accelerating, the pace of change is accelerating, how do we keep up with it? How can we as designers effectively design around these constantly shifting modes of interaction? So the pace of change is only accelerating, tomorrow's products and services will be different from what we create today, and we have to be able to meet that challenge head on and adjust. Both for the success of the work that we do and for our careers, which brings me to problem number two, confusing job titles, roles and responsibilities. This is especially prevalent in industries that emerged in emerging tech, where job titles change as often as the products and services we create. There's a proliferation of new job titles even just in the past few years. It's also led to confusion about what people who hold different job titles are responsible for. So I hear a lot of questions lately like should designers code? Should I specialize in a specific skill or try to be a generalist? What is the relationship between visual design, content strategy, information architecture, experience design, user research, et cetera? And what should I call myself? Am I a product designer, just a designer, a UX designer, a service designer, an experienced designer, some other type of designer, right? We keep changing our titles on LinkedIn trying to make sense of what it is we do for our jobs. But perhaps even more illustrative of this problem is this list of jobs that did not exist 10 years ago, right? So for those of us who thought that our formal education was gonna prepare us for a specific career and we would do that for the rest of our careers, it may come as a shock to find that the tools we used and the things we learned are now obsolete. So I got an education in graphic design. I spent a lot of time designing posters and magazines. I can't find work doing that anymore. So I have to adapt. So if the job that you do today may not exist tomorrow and the job that you do tomorrow doesn't exist today, how do you stay relevant? And how do you work with all of these new roles that pop up? So as a protection against the rate of change and a tool for embracing it, we must work together. Seems simple, right? But consider for a moment how we treat collaboration or working together today. We often think that by handing off a deliverable to the next person in the process or by sending an email that we're working together, we're collaborating. I communicated what I needed to communicate. I'm done here. I can move on to the next thing. Designers, we hand off designs to developers with no conversation. Developers then change those designs because the delivered design wasn't implementable. Product managers deprioritize features because they don't understand what users really need. Major projects get scrapped because teams get blindsided by tech advancements and teams are constantly putting out fires. So what do we do about this? We could make things more formal. We could institute review and feedback cycles, create highly detailed project plans. All of this would delay delivery, need constant revision and ultimately still not achieve our goal of true collaboration. So what if instead we work together? Working together across disciplines enables a team to respond to change faster. Additionally, it helps a team learn and grow as professionals so that they're able to respond to the broader marketplace with a diverse and effective set of skills. So as examples of how people in different roles work together, I'm gonna share with you three stories of collaboration across disciplines from my work. And while my examples are from software development specifically, these are applicable across any team regardless of your makeup and the type of products you're working on. So there are a lot of processes and methodologies and consultants including myself that will tell you how a team should work. But what a lot of these things don't do is tell you how to work together. The Agile Manifesto, which many of you are familiar with explicitly states individuals and interactions over processes and tools. But many Agile teams still haven't figured out what to do with designers in particular and they struggle to work well with product people in general including PMs, POs or whoever's driving prioritization. So the stories I'll tell today will give you some concrete examples of how you can actually work together and be Agile to meet the changes in technology. So enter Balanced Team. BalancedTeam.org has some more detailed information. It's a methodology, it's a philosophy that explores processes and methods that allow teams to work together and be happy, which I think is very important. I encourage you to check out their website for more info. I'll just go through a quick intro to it here. Balanced Teams are comprised of a few key roles working collaboratively and transparently to deliver a solution. So no one team member on a Balanced Team is in charge of the others and each role on the team has a particular responsibility to that team. The most common way that you see this play out and the end stories I'll share today is for software teams with these three key roles. Product management, product design and software engineering. So if you take any two of these you've got a fantastic cross-functional pair. Take all three and you've got a powerhouse of discovery and delivery. There are teams with other configurations but for today let's just assume this model. So how do these three work together? I'll share one story from each cross-section and how it led to learning insights and innovations. So design and engineering. These two roles breathe life into a product concept. When they're working together well quality effective experiences are built but when they're out of sync it can be really painful to get something shipped let alone something you're actually proud of. So in a Balanced Team because design and engineering are working closely together on the product their conversations about implementation details can generate new ideas and elegant solutions. So I've experienced countless times where a software engineer knew an easy way to simplify and enhance an experience because of their deep understanding of the technology and times where designers were able to help a developer understand the intent of a design choice so that the best possible feature was delivered. Another benefit of working closely with engineering is learning more about development and how things get made. This has made me a better designer because I have a deeper understanding of my options and how my choices impact the product. So on the teams I work with software engineers practice something called paired programming so they're used to having a collaborator and they're used to talking aloud as they work through solutions. So one day one of our engineers was working solo because someone on our team was out on vacation and he asked if I'd like to pair with him on building out the interface of a new feature. So as a designer with little experience with code I was pretty nervous. I barely knew my way around HTML and CSS and this is a native iPhone app. I don't know how to build that. But the engineer is super nice and he was fun to work with. So I was like okay I'll give it a shot and I'll sit down with him at his work station and try it out. So we only worked together for a couple of hours but as he showed me the code and which parts created various aspects of the layout I started to learn more about how his work brought to life the visions that I had imagined. So by the end of our session in just a couple of hours I was manipulating some of the values in the code base to change the elements on the screen myself and honestly feeling rather proud of myself. While that specific pairing session isn't gonna teach me everything I know about development everything I need to know and it certainly doesn't make me a software engineer. Each time I sit down with an engineer and take a look at the code I deepen my understanding of how our product works. As a designer that knowledge informs my design choices so that I know what's easy versus what's difficult and what's downright impossible. So rather than having arguments about I wanted it this way and you made it this way we can work together across our disciplines to come up with a more effective, simple solution than we ever could have come up with working separately. So moving on to engineering and product management it's important to the balanced team methodology that engineers are empowered to make decisions about implementation and to make recommendations about the direction of the product. I think part of what contributes to that empowerment is that the whole team looks to engineering for their expertise on the technical aspects of product development. This helps not just on product delivery but also when it comes to helping the team understand the product as a whole and the implications of their choices. So several years ago at my previous company a lot of hype had built up around the topic of application programming interfaces or APIs. Everyone was scrambling to get funding for an API for this or an API for that and it had really become a buzzword that came up in every meeting regardless of whether anybody knew what it actually meant. At the time I was working as a product manager and I was responsible for making decisions about whether or not we should integrate with this API or that API and I was getting a lot of pressure to do so. It was like make the connection, do it for every single one. I didn't really understand what all the hype was about so I asked one of our engineers to give me and the whole product team a little API for dummy's crash course. So one of our engineers agreed to take the time for us and we went to a whiteboard and he told us what an API does. The difference between older APIs and more modern ones and what an API can't do. He included some examples of APIs in use at our company and we talked about how the new prevalence of APIs would give us more flexibility in how we built software. So in just 30 minutes we were able to sit down as a team across disciplines and get educated on a technical aspect of our work. This equipped us to speak intelligently about the importance of APIs as well as understand when that was even a relevant discussion to have about our products. It gave me the knowledge I needed to be an effective product manager and to build trust with our engineers because they knew that I knew what the value of that technology was. So by working together, engineers and product managers are able to understand how their work influences the other discipline and build a better product overall. Product managers and product designers work together to turn user needs into value realized. In other words, they're creating software solutions for problems that real people have, right? PMs and designers often collaborate on research plans, feature brainstorming, user research and usability testing and defining the minimum viable product to meet the team's current goal. So while working as a product designer at a large health insurance company, I worked very, very closely with a product manager on an Apple Watch app called Q, CUE. Q was a free to anyone wellness app that would demonstrate the company's commitment to wellbeing and helping people live healthy lives. So we had just five weeks to design and build this app and by working together to determine what features would be most useful to our users, we were able to deliver a simple and elegant product. On the day the Apple Watch was launched. So Q is a hugely successful product for our company and I attribute that success to this balanced team approach. So as a designer, I worked directly alongside the product manager on a variety of aspects. We literally sat next to one another and we did user research together, we tested paper prototypes together, we prioritized features based on the feedback from our users together. So as I iterated on design concepts with my product manager standing next to me, we fell into an easy cadence of checking in with each other informally to talk about our options. He had a background in marketing so he would come up with ideas that he thought would best market the product, he had a really good visual sense and so by working really closely together and allowing each other to be a part of the process, we were able to share ideas. By collaborating on translating feature ideas and feedback from our user research into the designs as we went, we eliminated a ton of back and forth and document creation which we simply didn't have time for. So five weeks is not the amount of time that most of us would ask for to create an app from scratch and get it built and shipped to the app store but in this instance, that's what we had. We didn't know until two months before the app, before the watch actually showed up in stores when it was gonna launch so it was really difficult to plan six months in advance. So in this instance, to meet our goal, we had to work within five weeks and so by collaborating fluidly across our disciplines, that was really key to making that tight timeline work. So these are just a few examples of how no matter your background or the particular role that you occupy on a team, people can work together to make something greater than the sum of our parts. I credit the balanced team approach and the collaboration it encourages with my career growth and my ability to remain relevant in a rapidly changing industry. Each of these stories I've shared with you today was a point in my career where I felt I leveled up. I was gaining experience that helped me be a more valuable contributor on my team, not just as a designer but as a well-rounded contributor in a variety of situations. So rather than arguing about which tasks belong to which person or what the bounds of a specific job are, we are better served and we serve better by setting those concerns aside and working together at the intersection of our disciplines. So your role on a team is about the position you take in a discussion and the responsibility that you have, not about what tools you use or what deliverables you create. So if we want to stay relevant and grow as practitioners and innovate in a world of rapidly changing technology, we have to work together and we have to learn from each other. So go forth, collaborate and make magic. Thank you.