Good morning and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I'm your host, Krista Porter, here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the commission's weekly webinar series where we cover a variety of topics that may be of interest to libraries. The show is broadcast live every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. Central Time. But if you're unable to join us on Wednesdays, that's fine. We do record the show every week as we are right now. And the recording is posted to our website so you can watch it at your convenience. Both the live show and the archive recordings are free and open to anyone to watch. So please do share with your friends, family, neighbors, colleagues, anyone who you think might be interested in any of the topics we have on the show. For those of you not from Nebraska, the Nebraska Library Commission is the state agency for libraries in Nebraska. And that is for all types of libraries. So you will see things on our show that are for public libraries, K-12, academics and colleges, corrections, museums. Really our only criteria that it's some sort of a library. And we do shows about things, libraries are doing some things we think they might be, you know, could be doing. Services and products that we think may be of interest or for Nebraska libraries that we offer here via the Library Commission. So we have a mixture of things here on the show. Sometimes there are book reviews, interviews, mini training sessions, demos of those services and products. So it really runs the gamut. So anybody who has any interest in libraries should be able to find something that is of interest or use to them. We do have, as I mentioned, some sessions that our Nebraska Library Commission staff present on things that we offer here. But we do bring in guest speakers. And that is what we have this morning from my home state of New York. And the line with us today this morning is Shantae Hope. Good morning. Good morning. And she is from the SUNY Maritime College, as you can see from the slides there, which is in the Bronx. I'm from upstate New York. This is downstate. It's all good. We're on New York. And she's going to talk about this really cool library, very unique situation. I'm not sure if there's others like yours, but there that is in an actual old fort. So I'm just going to hand it over to you to talk to share about your library there. Thank you so much. And good morning, everyone. My name is Shantae Hope. And today we're going to be speaking about life at Fort Skyler, the challenges faced at SUNY Maritime College Library. So the picture that I have here is the actual full picture of the campus. So I'm just going to put my point in here just to show you a few things. So the library is right in this area here, as it says you are here. And also, if you haven't noticed, there is a bridge that goes right over campus. Okay. And this is the Throgneck Bridge that connects the east part of the Bronx. And it also connects the Bay Terrace of Queens. Okay. And this was built after the campus. So this is something that I look up at every day so I can see the traffic in case I need to get on the bridge to go to Queens. So I have a... Should I go now? Should I wave? Yeah. So I have all of the front controls for the Throgneck Bridge. And then also here is our training ship. And our training ship comes back on Friday and either the cadets have been on the ship for about 45 days or 90 days. Their last big stop was an ice one. So they're coming back on Friday and it's a really big show when they come back home. So yeah. So this is our beautiful campus. And just keep in mind how the campus looks. This is the fort which we'll talk about and the entrance of the library is further down. But just keep in mind of how the campus looks. That's all on an island there. Yes. The Throgneck Peninsula. Yep. Yep. This is the Throgneck Peninsula. Okay. So just a little bit about me. I am now the student experience in outreach library before I was instruction librarian as you may have seen in the bio. But now I'm the student experience outreach library, which is more for user engagement. I've been a librarian roughly about 10 plus years, but I've been in maritime for two. My day to day contains, you know, planning and coordinating events, which includes our library lecture series, which we have four to six. And they vary from different topics, mainly being the route which is maritime. And then we also have the center for teaching excellence workshops, which is more of a professional development aspect for our faculty. And then of course I do library instruction and reference one on one help. And the last bullet here is this is my first webinar presentation. So I thank you all for attending my session to hear more about Fort Schuyler and Maritime College.  A train librarian is a powerful search engine with a heart. So one of my students gave that to me. I think he or she found it on the internet. So ever since they gave it to me, I just, it just stuck with me and I just wanted to share that with you as well. That's awesome. Yeah. So let's get a little to a little bit about Fort Schuyler. So for Schuyler, this is a picture shot taken from inside the fort, which is called St. Mary's Pentagon. And it's, it's where we have all our graduations and if we have any picnics or anything like that, everything is housed in here. Now, the library is not the only department in the fort. We also have the maritime transportation department, our humanity department. And we also have the administrative wing, which contains the provost and the president and some financial offices as well. So the fort is heavily heavily used. And then we also have a bridge simulator that the students use for their capstone project. So it's supposed to replicate them being on the ship mostly the ship is on the Hudson River. So they get to see how it will look from the Statue of Liberty. So different areas of that. So this is just one shot taken from inside Fort Schuyler. And the Fort Schuyler was named after Major General Philip Schuyler of the Continental Army. His roots live deeply here at Maritime College. All right. So just a little bit of construction about Fort Schuyler construction began in 1833 and it was finished in 1856. Roughly $740,000 was spent on construction, which sounds pretty cheap today. And the lack of the skilled mason slowed down the construction and the actual fort is made out of granite was shipped from Greenwich, Connecticut. And it was established as peninsula from the Throgsneck Village that we're on now was established as Schuylerville. So this is technically, we're in the Bronx, but we're under the Throgsneck Bridge and in Throgsneck, but it's also Schuylerville. So whatever name you would like to call it, that's where we are. Well, that's not confusing for New Yorkers because there's an upstate city. Right. Upstate New York, right. And yes, and I looked at that too, and I was like, what? But yes, Schuylerville. So Schuylerville in the Bronx stretches all the way through East Tremont, which is one of the longest roads in Bronx. And it stretches all the way through there. And there's a lot of pretty restaurants and great scenery on Schuylerville. So not to get confused with Schuylerville, New York. Capital Albany, yeah. Exactly. So the picture that we have here is before the actual Maritime Colors was built. So this is the original blueprint of how the Throgsneck Village looked. All right. So a little description about Fort Schuyler is the example of a French bastion fort. There are other forts like it, but this was one of this is a great example of Fort Schuyler. And we have three bastions here and these are the bastions here. We have one, two, and three, and they overlook the East River. Okay. And it's shaped like a Pentagon, which is rumored to be a model design of the actual US Pentagon. And it was meant to hold 1,250 men and three pieces of armaments, which I found out today was pretty much weapons. I didn't even know that name. And then there are tunnels that interconnect the rooms in the fort. Any of us do not know where these tunnels are. So there's supposedly a fallout shelter as well that's supposed to connect these tunnels, but that is a mystery at SUNY Maritime College. So there's a lot of mysteries in history here. Originally, there was no indoor plumbing, and the mess halls and office of quarters were outside of the fort. So this is just a little description about Fort Schuyler and how beautiful it is. As we get into the pictures later on, this is really a beautiful, beautiful place to work.  It was identified as a shore base for the Maritime Academy. And then Robert Moses, who wanted to convert the site into a city park, but eventually we got our way and became a Maritime Academy, and it prevailed. And that was the least signed by President-elect Roosevelt in 1934. And in 1948 we officially joined SUNY and became SUNY Maritime College. So that is just a little bit of history. And in the bibliography at the end of this slide, at the end of the show, we'll have all of the bibliographies and information on how you SUNY Maritime became a college or so forth. And those of you who are not, don't know, New York SUNY is a state university of New York. That's the SUNY, that's the state college system, which is 60-something. Yes, 64 campuses. 64 campuses across the state as a whole network of colleges. Yes. And I'm going to say that. I graduate from two of those colleges myself. I graduate and my library degree. Yes, see, Krista, you have some roots here too. I do, yes. Yes. So we became a part of SUNY. So a little bit about the Stephen B. Goose Library. It was named after Stephen B. Goose, who was the U.S. Admiral. And he was also the founder of the, he was the first founder and the first president of the Naval War College in 1884 and 1886. So we decided to name his name, well, we didn't decide, but his name, his namesake was for this library. So that's how we honored him. So just to get into a little bit about the library as well as this picture here on the right, this picture was taken a little bit after 1856. According to our archives, we're not sure of when this picture was actually taken. But this is the actual library gutted out and how it looks back then before it became a mess that can I explain that to you in a second. But this is how the actual library is here. And the library has four bays. So this is one day with this light is this is two. This is three and the last one over there is Bay four. So we have each different bay in our library as well. Also, the library is two floors, but we don't say floors we say above and below just like the military. We say for the above and for below so students are looking for a class in the fort will say you're in classroom a 34 which four is up for above and be 56 for below so we don't not say for one and for two. Okay, so we also have 25,000 physical resources and our physical resources physical resources include our books and our cereals. And then we have 25 full stacks, all of our stacks which is our circulation collection is upstairs above. Okay, and then I'll show you the pictures in a little bit, and then we have 15 front facing stacks. Then we have 12 desktop computers to scanners to printers and then we also have some special collections, and our special collections include the maritime heritage room. The maritime heritage room contains all of our rare books, and we have roughly about 5000 rare books. We also have a ship library so on the traineeship that comes back on Friday, we also have a ship library so every year we have a new library and that goes out. So if you're interested in applying that goes out every summer. And we have a library on the ship when they're on the ship is a library and on the ship so you will live just like how a cadet lives on the ship or 40 or 90 days. So if anybody is interested in that we have that every year. And then we also have our archival collection and our archival collection contains some of these beautiful pictures that you see in our presentation, and we also house the. I just got lost a blank here. We also have our sailor snug harbor collection as well, and the sailor snug harbor collection a little bit about it is the first. Mainly like nursing home for army vets, and that was the first one and we have all that collection here I'm not the archivist here but we do have a permanent loan. So it's not ours, but it lives here in our collection. And then we have 25 ship models that have been gifted to the library, and I will show you a few of these ship models, but they, I think it's more than 25 because every day I see a new one. The models just come and just make their little home here now and our library. All right, so some fun facts about this to be lose library. Before it became the library it was considered domestic which is the cafeteria, and the great thing about that is the original tables that are used today was the same original table that they use in the mess. So that is some rich rich history that we have those tables and those tables are not going anywhere and as soon as they're these long tables that you will see in a little bit, but those are the original tables. And then we also are adjacent to the maritime industry museum, which is the only maritime industry museum in the Bronx. So we get a lot of foot traffic and it's open to the public, and everybody is more than welcome to come and visit our library. So those are just some fun facts about the sea we lose library. And at any time if there's any questions Christy you're going to let me know correct. Yeah, definitely yeah if anybody has any questions or want to know more about what she's describing or anything in the pictures or the blueprints or whatever. So go ahead and type in your question section. If you have your own microphone and you want to ask your question that way just type in, I have a microphone please unmute me and I will do that and you can ask your question yourself. Thank you. So I have a question for all of you today and what do you think based on the come. This is our new so just a little, a little heads up. This is our library how it looks today so if you take all of the pictures that I've shown you and all the descriptions that I described. This is how our library looks today, and it is a narrow one long hallway pretty much in here again is our above and here is our below. So just quickly, what you see here. Can you tell me any of the challenges that you think we face right now, just by this picture it could be anything any challenges that you think we are facing right now. Yeah, what do you guys think type into the questions I know if I have a few ideas but I'll wait and see what other people say, just one word. Oh, someone says heating is how yes, maybe getting in cooling. Okay. ADA requirements. Something I was thinking of was having to maintain the history of the building of the of it that if it's historical that you can't do so much renovation or changing to it for work for your purposes. Let's be maintained as as a historic site. Yes, yes. So this is considered a permanent is a permanent historical site but it's a working function so a working aspect. So as far as ADA compliance, we cannot change anything because it's considered a historical landmark so we are not allowed to change anything so that's what makes one of the biggest hurdles for ADA compliance. There's a lot of stairs and we have. There are the stairs are Aqua stairs is not just going straight up the stairs their spiral balance stairs. So yes, so that is one of the biggest challenges that we face so we noticed that we tend to have to go out to the student more instead of bringing them into the lab. Hence your position. Yes. So that is more ideas here effective lighting depending on where and how your windows I mean you think afford wouldn't have many windows. We wouldn't want it to an internet how's your internet connectivity. So all of so everyone said all my whole presentation today. All of the points you hit these are all of the challenges that we're facing and as an everyday it keeps growing because we want to make this library a 21st century library, but it's so hard because of the history and the richness of this fort. So one of the things that is in the works that we're trying to propose is to move the library to a different place on campus. It's going to be an uphill battle for us for right now but we're just trying to make do we're trying to make do so the whole point of this presentation as well is for you for any of you to give me any ideas or any suggestions on how I can, you know, I can share with my director and my colleagues on how to make this library better because right now it's just about four of us and we really want to liven up this library and make it such a more learning experience for everyone. Thank you all for those questions I really appreciate that. All right. So the top 10 challenges that academic librarians face according to Jen Chen of Wiley. And we all know his budget money is always going to be an issue. But communicating about changes in the library declining patient requests for content to reimbursements and keeping up with the changing technology technology technical requirements. That is the biggest challenge that we are facing right now. And that's why that number five is highlighted because we didn't realize how much technology we need. And one of the another one of our things in the works is we're trying to create a maker space in the library. But that is going to raise some big concerns and I'll show you a little bit in my presentation as well. But going into the rest of the challenges is understanding research trends and the library's role in the research cycle, stay incurring on policy changes, managing library operations and track and performance conveying the value of librarians to research and managing continuous transitions from print to a digital based collection. So these are just the challenges that even though everywhere we all know, but it's laid out for us what our challenges are. So I just wanted to show you that and share that with you. Okay, so the library has gone through some renovations since 2014. So I'm going to show you just some of the changes that we have here for right now. Right. So this is our circulation search information. I mean reference desk in our information desk as well. As you can see there are some changes here for us. So our latest change is we have here is our monthly heritage heritage display. Now as you can see from before, this was open stacks. And we got rid of these open stacks to make way for our new display. So before all here was all of our bound periodicals. And now we made it our new place for our new books in new collections. And then we also have more bound periodicals here. But now this is a place for our DVDs. So we figured these are new places for to showcase new material. Before we only had about six computers now we have about 12. So we're going to extend a little bit more to the side here as well. And then our countertop has changed. This was later and later in there now just that's a couple of different changes there. Yes, so this countertop was donated to us from Kings Point. So Kings Point is our, our neighborhood maritime college. It is also our rival as well. So thanks to us by them. So we really appreciate that you know we have a good livelihood. You know, they still given us pieces of furniture, but everything else still remain the same. Now to move this desk is very hard because we thought about I'm getting rid of our reference desk and making it just full throttle for student use. The favorite of this desk is extremely heavy and is extremely expensive so that's why we keep the desk. That's why it's here. So these are molding mainly the changes that we have for our circulation and reference desk as well. Okay, so also what happened from 2014 was a new office. So behind here was all of this was just a wall and there was nothing behind it. But to have more outreach in the library and have more departments in the library. We have our academic assistant center which is our academic coach which is Anna Medieta, and she's from student affairs. So her office is here which greatly helps us with our traffic were more students to get more students here at the library. So they knocked all of this down to build a new office and they added additional unisex bathroom. So that's what we have here. And then we had a cafe and I'll explain that in a second, but this is all of our new office. This is our new office here. And then we have the opposite and which we call the long haul, and this is the additional additional position of the library so this side is the entrance of the library, and this is the rare, more the rare end. So now we have all our bound periodicals. And then we also have before 2014 was all of our physical cereals, but they were all out facing, but we needed more space for our bound periodical style we met we made all of the articles down here. So if you're wondering where our collection is. All the collection is upstairs, the whole circulation collection is upstairs, as well as our maritime heritage room and our archives is below. But yes, all of our collection is upstairs which makes a big issue as well with 88 compliance because all of our collection is mainly upstairs. There's only the staircase to get there. There's only the staircase to get there.  So yeah, so this is the opposite and and these are the original tables from the mess deck that they had in the past before was a library so those are awesome tables you should never get rid of those I can tell from those pictures. And now we ever got rid of these, these tables I think our alumni will be after us. Yes. And then right here in the middle is our glow which is a staple for the St. Louis library. I'm not sure where who was donated from, because that's still a big mystery but it's, it's been there since the beginning of St. Louis library. And then up here on the top here what we call the penthouse is that is where the library director sits. So she overlooks us and you know we see her to if we go far enough. All right. So, as you saw before where we had a cafe which was beautiful I wasn't here for that but it would have been really nice to have the cafe here the cafe has been moved to another bastion. It's not long no longer in the library. So it became an awkward space so we decided to make it a display area. As you can see, it's right under the stairs so we have this awkward angle here. And it does have lighting, but it's very, very hard for us to put any exhibits here because we didn't really know what else we could do with it. We thought about making it like the circulation just mainly circulation or reference area, but it's too deep in under the stairs and want to see. So we decided to make it a display area and this current display that we have now is Constitution Day. And our new Constitution Day is going to be suffrage to suffrage moment for this year. So that's why we have our Constitution displayed here. All right, so this is the opposite end of the long call. All right. So if you notice here in 2014 this was all open stacks, all open stacks, and you see our ship models here that always come, they just always appear. We have our ship models here, and then we have more of the tables here so three original mess deck tables fit in each bay. As I mentioned in the earliest slides, we have each bay. So this is Bay two, this is Bay three, and this area is Bay four. And Bay four, we have mainly our library lecture series. That's what we invite. As I mentioned earlier, that's how I coordinate the events. We have our library lecture series in Bay four. So another challenge that we have is that sometimes the library lectures can get pretty loud. When people are trying to study, it makes it library loud. So that's another challenge that we face. So right over here, like I said, the stacks. But if we look at 2019, we have built academic success center, which is our library, also library instruction room, and we share this with student affairs. This room is adjacent to three study rooms. And this one of the study rooms in the back here, but this room, everyone loves on campus. Everyone loves to come to this room either for meetings classes. So this room gets heavily heavily used. But we try to keep it for ourselves, but sometimes it's a little bit too hard. But this is our, this is our active learning classroom. I mean, our academic success classroom. And this part of the library is HVAC. It does have AC. Just this classroom. So yes, so that is one of our new, one of our new changes that we had. It was originally built in 2017, but then we made it more available in 2019. All right, so these are some of the present day challenges that I'm going to get into that you mentioned all before. So one of the challenges that we had was with our new heritage monthly display was the granite. We have the space here, which is about maybe about six inches away from the granite because the granted is uneven. So it's hard for us to place any new fixtures or any new furniture in the library, because now we have to keep the granite in line. And we can't stand the granite. So that's one of the. I can't actually physically attach anything to it because of the Oracle. Right. Yeah. So it's hard for the wiring as well. So they had to take wiring from actual bookcase and I'll explain that a little bit, little wiring from the bookcase to light the actual display. We have to run a lot of wires from each different place and split wires to have electricity run in certain areas. Yes, I can work for facilities as well. All this yeah. All right, so then we come back to our lighting. So if you notice that we have the light from the desk, but all of the space back here, darkness, darkness. The only light that comes from the areas is from the stacks. So each of the stacks have lightings built on to the actual stacks so you can see. But if you're not by the stacks, you're in complete darkness. So it's pretty hard for us to, you know, some of the some of the faculty and the students enjoy maybe working like that. But for us to find materials is really, really hard. So there's only light from the desk and then as you can see the fort windows, and this is actually one of the windows that is in my office. Each bay has a window and the windows about maybe a foot, a foot and a half. It's not big at all. So we really don't have a lot of light. The only light is in base three, and there's the only light fixture in that area. So there is minimal lighting in the fort above. So then we also did a huge weeding project where we got rid of about roughly about 15,000 physical materials. So we were so gun whole to just move all to push all of the books to the front, but then we realize there are no books so we don't need any light. So we rushed and cut off all the lights in the back and forgot that there is no light in the back. So this whole area is dark, dark, dark, dark. So what we thought was about putting the maker space in this area, but that will be another hurdle for us to get. So now it just has become the truck stop. As you can see all the trucks. So yes, so these two lights that are here are just actual construction lights, just so we can have some type of lighting back here because we also want to be safe with our patrons. When they're passing through and I'll explain that a little bit. So yes, lighting is a big issue that we have here. And then again, we are hot and then we're cold because we do not have any age rack as well so actually actual in the actual library, there is no age rack so our offices all have AC units and heating units, but in the actual library, there is no age rack, which is raise a problem because it makes for mold, and it makes for dust, and it makes it hard for us to work when we're trying to shift, because we're so warm. And then the granite can retain the temperature so roughly in the month of October to November. It's starting to get it starts to get a little bit colder, but the stones still have the heat from the summer. But when it gets December, it starts to get cold and then it becomes freezing in the life almost sometimes it could be about 40 degrees outside and they'll feel like about 25 degrees inside. So it's pretty cool. Yes, because it's the granite the granite holds on to all of that hot and cold. So it's like like in castles they had those tapestries on the walls because of the, the stone and now just not. Yeah. Yes, for a little bit in either side. Yeah. So for our student workers and some of our patients we have some fans around but then the fans get really loud, because there's so many fans going, and then it creates noise. So, yes. So age back is another issue that we have. But also looking out is St. Mary's Pentagon, which is beautiful outside. Very nice view. Yes. Yes. And hiding in the back is the is the Throgneck Bridge, but this is the St. Mary's Pentagon so we like to leave the blinds open so we can just, you know, look outside and have a beautiful beautiful view, but we're actually smoltering hot inside so we can just look outside. Okay. Also, the library is located far from the rest of campus. So we're here on the fort. And then this is the center of campus. So the center of campus has our upcoming student union has all of the dorms has the cafeteria. The ship store. Everything is in the center in the classrooms, all in the center of campus, but another major area is our science and engineering department and our science and engineering department is all the way here. So that walk on Urban Avenue to here is not really, really fun. And especially with our cadets, which are the mugs, which are the freshmen, part of their part of their freshman year is there they're not allowed to walk through campus. They have to work on the out they have to walk on the outer skirts of camera. Okay, that's part of their ritual as a freshman. So it makes it harder for us to come and then they also have to be in cadet uniform when they come to the fort. So it just makes it challenging for the students that want to come to the library the actual study because they have to walk on the outer skirts and then they also have to wear the uniform so they can be comfortable and they're walking a distance. So that's another part of my outreach is trying to get them here and you know I don't mind going to these students but I rather them come to me so they can experience all the resources that we have and also give us suggestions on how we can be a better asset for them and a better learning community for them. So it's a little bit of give and take. Is there any questions so far. Yeah, actually said did somebody different questions that you just answered in the description of the campus. What are what are your hours and when are you open at the library and as far as when you know the cadets are on campus and doing things with classes and whatnot. So right now this summer hours but during during the semester we're open from 8am to midnight. Thursday and then Friday will open from 10 to 6, because usually most of the students go home on Fridays, but then we resume Saturday and Sunday will open from 10am to midnight so the only day that we're not open till midnight is Fridays. Okay. Yes, and how many cadets are there. Yeah, how many people are you serving really. We have about roughly 1000 cadets, and the cadets are enrolled in the Coast Guard Academy. Coast Guard they get their Coast Guard license and then we also have civilian students which we have about roughly 200 and civilian students are just the traditional students that you will see they're not enrolled to get their Coast Guard license. Okay, cool. Was that all of the questions. I have like a series of questions about and I'm not sure if you're going to talk about this or anything about the relationship between the library and the faculty and being on communication that you have any committees you're on material purchase I don't know if you're going to get more into that or not. No, I wasn't but I could definitely save that for the end and I can answer I can answer all of those questions as well. Okay, sure. Yeah, yeah, hold on to those yeah. Okay. All right. So, another challenge that we have have here is that the library has five entrances. Wow. Five entrances I'm going to start on the left. Okay, I mean the right I'm sorry. And where this is the main entrance. Okay, and this is where St. Mary's Pentagon is. So this is the main entrance. And if you notice this is the only entrance with the gates. Security gates. Yeah. Then we have the other end of the long hall which is the adjacent to the museum that I mentioned earlier so this goes through the museum. So imagine going from all the way from the circulation desk to the end where before is, and this is the museum. So, a lot of our patrons usually just walk through. So that creates a lot of traffic, but that's one of the ways they can go out and the classes are also they're also classes in the museum as well. And then going to this area this is also this is above. And this is our maritime heritage room, right in here. And these are oversize and these are thesis collections, but when they come through. They can go straight into the administrative wing, which is adjacent to the library as well. So this is the opposite end of this. So when you come through here you're going to go through the store if you're passing through. And this is from the museum side. This is the museum. This is from the museum side above. And this is the area that we did all of the meeting in the dark area so they usually can pass through, but we keep a little bit of light so anyone can walk into the library from any of these different directions. So many different directions. Yeah, so many different directions. So, another thing is because we only have one security gate, someone in all of our circulation collection is upstairs. Someone can just take a book and just keep walking. So we do have our honor system that we hope, you know, no one is taking our materials. So we haven't done inventory yet so I'm not sure how true that is. So many doors. Yeah. And then also, once. Yes, so once this is the parking lot entrance. So staff and faculty can come through this side to enter the library and administrative wings. But once you go past this stop sign, your cell phone does not work. It does not work in the fort at all. So we were, we all rely heavily on our Wi-Fi to use to make phone calls. And then we do have some zones where you can get services but that those those areas tend to be heavily crowded because everybody wants to use the cell phone. So yes, once you enter into the fort, cell phone services is not a factor. But you do have good internet connection in the fort or on the campus to use. We have okay. We have service, you know, I think any in any college, you know, you know, service may go in and out. But since the wiring is so hard, we have so many Wi-Fi spots. Sometimes it's not as great because so many people is getting on it, but most days, they're good. It's pretty good. And these stained glass windows is our chapel. So we do have a small chapel on campus. And we do have regular services there as well. But then you can also, you sometimes you forget that the cell phones work because you have this pretty, you know, scenery of the Throgsnake Bridge. Sometimes it takes away because there are so many beautiful scenic spots on campus. And if you go to our website, so many maritime.edu, they highlight and showcase all of the beautiful artwork that we have and just being in the fort. So it's really a beautiful campus. So it's kind of cool to work here. But as you, as I mentioned before, it does have this challenges. You know, what can I say, librarians rule, and even though we have overcome all of these challenges, and we have them, I still love working here. I still love working with the students. And I always try to make something out of nothing. And whatever we go through here, I always make way and I always make sure each of our patrons are happy. And for that, I would like to say all librarians rule, because we can make something out of nothing. So thank you very much. And there's my contact. Yeah, great. Okay. All right, so we do have some questions that people typed in as we were, as you were talking and if anyone has anything else you want to ask about, or suggestions or ideas as Shantae was saying some of the challenges they're still having any thoughts or recommendations that you might have how you've done things in your library or ideas you might have. Go ahead and do that. We still have like 15 minutes left of our time here, so we have plenty of time to talk about stuff. So I'm going to pull some of these questions. Someone know about basically the relationship between the library staff and the faculty. Are the library staff on any committees, academic committees, working with the faculty? How kind of communication is there between them as far as assignments and everything? And just so how do you work with the faculty of the college? So librarians here at SUNY Maritime are considered faculty. So we attend, yes, we're considered faculty. So we attend all of the faculty meetings and we're on each of us are on each committee. So we have a faculty assessment committee, we have a curriculum committee, we have a policies committee, each of us are on one of those committees. So we're fully involved with committees. With that, we also have a liaison program. And with that liaison program, we tried to figure out I'm the liaison for the global and business and transportation department. So my, you know, our job is trying to just find out what collections they need, what type of library instruction they need. And that's one of the things that I'm trying to do as well with my outreach is trying to build up our library instruction. Because again, since our library is so far, they don't think it was a resource. So we're trying to simultaneously trying to promote the library and also promote library instruction how we can come to the class. So sometimes, most of the times I have to take that walk, but I get my exercise and then I get my stuff sent. But outreach is one of the biggest factors here. And even though I'm the sole primary concept for outreach, all of us, we all take part in that. So yeah, we're trying to, we're truly trying to build that up. So yeah, that's something that was a suggestion and idea for outreach. I know some, I know some, some universities have the same issue. The campus is just so large at many colleges and universities. And where things are situated aren't always the most useful or logical to the students or the staff. I know some libraries have done things like, like a pop up library somewhere, like they set up in the campus center or in that science building or something with a semi permanent, I don't know, you know, location, you know, roving reference or something and say we're going to be there.  We can come to you and, you know, just to put a presence out in another area on campus. Is that anything you talked about going into the classrooms? Is have you done something like that? Like, you know, I know you said you're getting a new student union or something. Yeah, so we're getting in the student union because we didn't have one previously. So it's going to be in our vendor group hall, which is right under, right under our cafeteria. So that's where the student union would be. But as far as trying to have more outreach, I started with a small, a little outreach program that I did was called books on a roll. So basically I just took a card and I just put some books on it just to get my name out there, get them to see me lose name out there. But I decided to do that on one of the coldest days of the year. So it wasn't, it wasn't too fun for me, but I did give more, a little bit more traffic and then I did make some favorites with that. But yes, I do, I only did books on a roll one time. So I don't really have an assessment for that, but I plan on doing it again and I'll look at the weather. And then find out, just to get our name out there and do a little bit of outreach, but I love doing things like that. And we're trying to figure out one of the challenges that I have noticed is trying to reach out to the students, the faculty and the staff because we serve the entire community and we, you know, we focus tend to focus on faculty or we tend to focus just on students but we also want to get the staff involved and that's why working with student affairs is one of the biggest things because we want to work on retention. So it's reaching out to so many areas and so many avenues. I can't prioritize who I want to focus on and who I want to do more of an outreach to, but I'm just trying to spread, you know, spread it evenly as much as I can. There's something I was going to say and then I forgot, okay, maybe it'll come back. Let's see what we're doing here. Okay, and here's a good question. Yeah, how do you provide materials and this is something you're talking about with the ADA issues with your Circulating Collection being above, how do you provide the services to the students who, I mean, I don't know if you have people with disability issues, what is your process for being able to get those to people who can't get up there or get into the building because of those limitations? So I work closely with the academic coach, Anna Menieta, and I try to find out, so in a nutshell, I haven't really dealt with people who have disabilities. It's been people who have injuries, if they have broken bone or broken arm or something like that and they can't get up the stairs, then we'll reach out to the faculty and find out what their assignment is and then we'll bring the resource to them. So we haven't really dealt with that. I'm not going to say luckily because it may happen and then we have to deal with it. But that's something that we're working on. That's a constant struggle that we're dealing with right now. Having a historical building, there's only so much, as you mentioned earlier, that can be done. That's another thing that we're trying to establish, getting some grants as far as that. I know that they're out there. So if anyone knows of anything, I haven't done any grant writing myself, but just something so we can cover all of our bases. So if anyone knows, please email me. I'll call me directly. I'll take all the help I can get. Absolutely. Anything you guys have used yourself at your colleges or universities or libraries? I think there's so many different grants, and I know because I handle helping libraries apply for grants here in Nebraska. Mainly they come to me for information about for public libraries, but thinking out there's so many grants that you got to kind of dig down into them to realize, they do mention that a public community resource and libraries are a thing that this could be used for, but sometimes when you look at the title of the grant, it wouldn't even dawn on you that that's me, that I can create right up something that would fit their criteria. So sometimes you've got to just say, well, it's kind of sort of, let's read what it says. Let's see who they've given it to before. And you just never know when sometimes bureaucracy, the way they title things, it's just the legalese that it's too dry. So you just have to read down into it and see, yes, this fits what I can do. Right. Read that fine print. Read that fine print. Yes. So that's something, you know, I'm interested in. So like I said, if anyone knows or can put me in the right direction with somebody, I would greatly, greatly appreciate it. So are you, do you have budget issues? Is there cuts being done or is it just you're working with what you have? Yeah, so that so cuts have been done. And we started, usually we started with our student workers. We had to start with budget with with our student workers with that. So now, because we're since we're open till midnight, we will have to adjust our times or so. And then we also cut a few of our databases. So, yeah, we have been dealing with a major, not major, but we have had to cut some things. Yeah, sure. It's like you said in the beginning earlier, it's everyone recognizes that. Yes, it's number one, number one, number one. Yeah. Another question we have here. As far as your the materials you have in the library, you mentioned a lot of bound volumes bound periodicals. So that's obviously a big because I know so many you're talking about also technology so many places libraries are going digital for a lot of the periodicals you guys still have certain things I guess that are they are they not available as digital yet or So since our most of our collection. Yeah, so so most of our collection is maritime based. So I select pretty special. So once in a while we'll get those articles that someone needs from like 1993. And we still hold them here. So another one of our issues is is the bound periodicals are getting too big and they're taking up too much space. They do. Yeah. And there's no setting up an online databases of those because it's so specialized will specialize. Yes. So that's another one of our issues of spacing what and and and we rely heavily on our on our faculty to tell us what to get rid of and what not to get rid of because if you get rid of something then they're looking for it so it's never any medium and you know and we still also we when we provide a lot of interlibrary loan as well we have a lot of interlibrary loan requests for these materials and it may not necessarily be from a college and maybe from a law firm or maybe from Association that we still try to retain and you know we don't really want to lose out on that you know lose our you know lose lose our essence with that. Yeah, that's another one of the issues that we face as well. Yeah. That was the question I was trying to get into is what input does the faculty have with your material purchase and selection of the materials you have in the library. Yeah, we're trying to we're trying to encourage our faculty to be more digital. You know we like you know like one of the challenges that we face you're trying to you know encourage them to be more digital but you know a lot of our faculty love that hard copy and there's nothing wrong with that but you know for me you know sometimes they wait for the hard copy to come in for a newspaper or a periodical and you know I try to encourage them like you know it'll take two seconds if it's if we just go on a database but you know holding on to that hard copy you know it's it's it's challenging. They still want that they still want to hold on to it which is okay. I encourage it but you know certain things you know you want instant gratification but I can't give you instant gratification if the periodical still in the mail. I can give it to you. You're not going to accept this printout from my printer then you're going to have to wait. Exactly. I do a little but I'm kind of in between both those I love my books but I have read online do things online too I think there's a nice balance you can have a little. Use what works best like if you do need something right now just take the printout it's okay. Time and you're not in a rush or you need to look at the actual original document for some reason make sure you have that time to wait. Exactly. We have another suggestion about the outreach and I don't know what kind of how things are done on camera you're talking about the cadets walking and you know what you're walking through campus around the board edge and whatnot. Given the campus layout and distances could an on campus traveling service like a bookmobile be something feasible like something.  They do absolutely facilities and health services actually get so they they have their own little mobiles. I'm not sure if I don't I'm not sure if the library will hold so much weight for us to get one of those but that will be that will be I will love that. It's easy to get stuff out elsewhere yeah. Yes I would I would love that I don't think health services or facilities will let me use theirs. That would be a grant you can get a grant to get a bookmobile or grant to get some of the mini something yeah. That is I love that suggestion thank you I would never even thought about that yeah. Yeah I know there is a bookmobile and outreach association or something they're actually having their annual conference here in Omaha Nebraska coming up here. Let me see if I can I'll try and look up something about that yeah. Yeah I have no problem coming to Nebraska. Sometimes association of bookmobile and outreach services. I love it. It's great. It's specifically for that it's something definitely that I'll show that when I get my my screen here that you could definitely see what they yeah. Thank you yes I would have never know about that so. I didn't either until and always I knew is because it somehow popped up somewhere in my feeds of something and only because they have to be coming to Omaha this year. I had never heard of it as being a thing I know libraries have bookmobiles and whatnot but I never heard of it as being this association except for the fact that they happen to be this year's conferences coming to our state so. Yeah. Yeah. All right so we're getting close to 11 o'clock here time to wrap up does oh I did have one last question and some I think posted. That I wanted to ask about is you mentioned the heating and the AC issues in the library you know proper itself or all of your books and computers and things are and the you know. The issues with that. The damage to the books and damage and having to keep the computers running when the heat is so high is really a concern for me. There's the administration doesn't. Respond to that as being a major problem. It seems like I mean I get that it's in the other building issue but there's obviously other places in the fort where you haven't been able to put in AC and whatnot that you think where the. Materials and things you spent a lot of money acquiring or that are historical would be a more of a priority to keep in good condition. So the. Much about it. So the areas that need to have. Control he control and air control had it so archives have this own cooling unit. We have we have in all of this we have AC services has AC but in general long haul. To provide age back for that area I think they're just looking at I think they're just seeing dollar signs. So then thinking of how it could be helpful and aid our collection. And they just need it as another big project. So I don't think it's on the radar but I don't know if it's a necessity because we've been dealing with it so long as well. Yeah and you can see from the way the building is with those different the different sections that how to install something in there is going to be a complex issue to it's not like it's one big room and it's easy to figure out to heat it or not. It's each area is going to need like zoned. I don't even want to think about it. Exactly you know it is just a headache of thinking about it and then we have to pull wiring from different areas. You know so I don't know the logistics of it but that is it is what it is. Engineers and people with more knowledge of that than us need to be. So maybe when we get our maker space. Maybe that's something that you know they will say maybe we need to have that so we'll see. We're doing a program right now here in Nebraska where we're putting maker space equipment into libraries as a like a testing and there's some of the depending what you're getting some equipment does require venting. And routers with dust and using wood and everything and so there is certain things that are required. If you're going to have that piece of equipment in a room anywhere so that might you know maker spaces are big now so using that as a if you want us to have a maker space you're going to have to update something. We need you need you can have a beautiful maker space and then the rest of the library is just you know you want to make create one area. I think you might as well just do the whole package.  Let's make it happen. Yes. All right so it doesn't look like anybody had the other desperate questions right now we're a little past 11 o'clock so this is perfect. Just a few comments here we enjoyed meeting you and seeing your library so you sorry you're so far away people want to visit. I may visit sometime when I'm home I do try to come home at least once a year or so to New York. Yeah so I think we will wrap up officially for today then for today's show. Yeah thank you so much Shantay this is awesome. Thank you I really appreciate you giving me the opportunity. Thank you so much. You did a great job. Perfect. First webinar yes you can mark check this off. Great I was glad to have you on. I didn't mention at the beginning that for some of you may know this was originally submitted to me to be in our big talk from small libraries online conference that we do. It's every February and specifically people from small libraries talking about what's going on in their libraries. And we it's only a one day event get 12 sessions on during the day and I had way more than I could fit into a day at like 37 something proposals. So this is one of the many if you if you will come to Encompass Live regularly you'll see me mention this at least a couple times a month this year of that didn't fit into that day but I want to I want I want to know more about it I want everyone else to know more about it so put them on to Encompass Live you know. So I'm glad we were able to get your get you find out all about this and see it's not great. Thank you so much again Chris I really appreciate it. Yeah so thank you and thank you everyone for attending today. Let's see what we have here. All right so I'm going to pull presenter control back to my computer screen. So we'll show my screen you can still stay on here with us we'll wrap things up. Well you're talking updated your intro here so I've got your title correctly now. So and then the thing I was talking about since we are talking about outreach and that is something that you do there. Yeah this is where I looked up here the Association of Bookmobile and Outreach Services specifically for people who are involved in doing outreach and bookmobiles. So and here is their conference which if I'm still correct is 2019 conference. What does that say what the dates are. Omaha old market deadline is September when is the actual conference sometime this fall. Yes okay. I'm up but and you can still get into early bird registration it looks like if. Oh yes we have some days there. Okay. So anybody who's involved interested in this. So so anyone who is interested in outreach and bookmobiles and things look into this association in general but come and visit Omaha if you want to. Coming up in the fall. They have a t-shirt. Oh looks pretty it looks pretty cool actually. So Association of Bookmobile and Outreach Services. Alright so that will wrap it up for today's show I'm going to pop back to our encompass live main page here to show you. These are upcoming shows coming up over the next couple months but to show you where the archives will be this is where our archives are just a link right beneath all our upcoming shows. And our most recent one is at the top of the list. This is one that we did last week. So. Today's recording will be there and we will have a link to the recording as I said it goes to our YouTube channel and the presentation. 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That I hope you join us for a next week show which is pretty sweet tech. This is our new monthly session done by our technology innovation librarian here at the Nebraska Library Commission Amanda Sweet. It's pretty sweet tech. Which has anything tech related and next week she's going to talk about building yourself a clean user friendly library website. So if you have a website that you want if you don't have one you want to get one or if you want to freshen up the one you do have sign up and join us next week and Amanda can help you out with that. And please do sign up for anywhere other future shows we have coming up here usually have a couple of months planned out you'll see new ones coming on all the time. So that wraps it up for today's show. Thank you everyone for attending. Thank you Shantay for joining us here this morning and hopefully we'll see you on another time on Encompass Live. Bye bye.