Welcome to tonight's common council meeting once again I had asked the council to help out a little more a little better with getting documents up to our city clerk sort of Has to organize all these documents, but we've got a man in time again, so I appreciate that very much And welcome to the public and to the people watching us tonight before we start our meeting I'll ask the city clerk to read the quote for the week. Thank you mayor Be more concerned with your character than with your reputation your character is what you really are while your reputation is merely What others think you are? Thank you very much Call it 20 seconds regular council come on council meeting to order. Please call the roll Boren Berg Serta Davis here off Hannah Kittlesen Clowness Manny Meyer Montemayor Ratke Ryan Susha Vanderweel and we're hassled 16 present Corm is present now. It's time to pledge our allegiance to the beautiful country. We live in Elm and graph Would you please lead us? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which It stands one nation under God Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you all man graph Exciting when the agenda is approval of minutes president Berg. Yes, thank you You're on I ask that the minutes be approved is entered on the record Motion second to approve the minutes under discussion There being non those in favor say aye any opposed motion carried mission minutes stand approved Attorney McLean confirmation of mayor's appointments Thank you, your honor here by submit the following appointment for your consideration David gas to be considered for appointment to the business improvement district to fill the unexpired term of Greg Wegeman whose term expires 9407 signed by the mayor That's for motion to confirm Motion and second to confirm any discussion There being on all those in favor say aye any opposed motion carries Appointments confirm public forum madam city clerk. Yes, Christina Pape And Christina, can I have your home address, please? sure My home address is three zero zero five Crusade Lane That's Green Bay, Wisconsin five four three one three And you will have five minutes. Excellent. Thank you Hello, my name is Christina Pappy and I am actually with space explorers and the reason I'm here tonight is To request that we again submit a proposal that we've submitted in the past for an appropriations request from the city of Sheboygan The project is entitled the Wisconsin Advancement of Space Science education and technology Just to give you a little bit of a background of what space explorers is We are an organization located in Depeur, Wisconsin And what we do is for over the last 10 years we've developed space simulations lesson plans Curriculum all geared towards preparing students for future careers in science math and technology And so what we aim to do in this proposal is develop a new simulation Based off of either a rocket plane simulation or a new futuristic NASA mission To further encourage students to pursue those careers The proposal also includes professional development for for teachers within the sixth congressional district And provides access to all of our programming and simulations as well Many of you are probably familiar with the Sheboygan Science Center That's in the works and space explorers actually has a signed letter of intent to work with the group And so this proposal also calls for funding to help support that project It's space experience mission control center So it's a wonderful opportunity for the city and it will continue to build upon our teachers and assist them with Training and professional development as we prepare our youth Thank You Christina. Thank you. Thank you That would be us. Yes. Thank you very much Next item on the agenda is a hearing for a change of zoning for property located at 1010 South 9th Street For class UI urban industrial to class CC central commercial classification Is there anyone that would like to address the council? Is there any please step up for Can I have your name and address please David Rupinsky 835 Indiana Avenue Sheboygan, Wisconsin Okay, thank you. Hi. I run the Dave's who's in we all know it's on 9th Indiana Avenue with the with the proposed zoning change here yet Parking has always been an issue over on my end of the Indiana Avenue there ever since they took it off of Indiana Avenue I used to supply parking for some of it That's one of my papers at the thing, but wait is not with with commercial it It has the businesses that are there help with the parking make sure there's not a nuisance with outside businesses and By changing it to urban It may change that where they would there they're allowed a lot more ground rules more land use area compared to green area and Things like that. I mean in a lot of ways it'll help but parking is still an issue It really has it really is something that has to be addressed in my area is a lot of you know I've always supplied parking for my place. In fact, even now I'm adding more parking to it And as I tear buildings down my business relies greatly on it and I've been probably in the last 15 years probably in front of this console I would say five times. I'm pretty sure five times maybe six always with parking issues and We've always addressed them at that time and come up with good things. I for 15 years at least Bill Rice's property maintained it plowed it cut the grass and groomed it refilled it when it needed more gravel and In fact, there's a few Alderman here that I've seen that helped me in the past with some of these issues and Now this last summer it was given to the Highland house through a vote of the council and I think it's good move also now with any of these places they are supplying parking for their own people but They want to be good neighbors also, but when it comes down to it they are supplying parking for their own people and I fear that in Where's other big businesses or businesses that had parking for their people? Sometimes they get Maybe a little discouraged with other people parking in their parking lots and chain them off and I know many the people on Michigan Avenue relied heavily on trilling and trilling now blocks it off And I remember they wanted to be a good neighbor for years they were and I'm sure they had an excellent excellent reason for doing it And if these guys would block off their parking from us in the future, I'm sure they would have a very good reason to do it I mean, it's theirs. They paid the taxes on it There is a number of businesses in my area that are very parking short 9th Street North of Indiana Avenue along the Kepsel building has always been a rolling curb which is allowed There's about 270 feet there. I believe usable fee will say that we'll cut it down to 250 feet 240 some feet of true usable space. There should be still about 30 Cars on an angle parking. They should be able to park there with the rolling curb as had been Since that has been closed up with the boardwalk Project they wanted to make that a walking area which looks nice and all It cuts us out of that parking that we needed that you gave to Highland House For their beautiful product that they have and it's going to be a very nice project well thought out well designed. It looks it looks great I have an old building. I have done as much with it. I have Another old building next to it. I started I kind of stopped right where I am and I had Well, I had all electrical done new furnaces all of that stuff new roughs insulated And I stopped her it is in case I have to tear down for parking But that still doesn't mean that the business is around me won't park by me in my situation where you have a business that's very open to the public if If there's if put it this way if there's open parking space is someplace they'll use them and If I close mine off, I'll create many bad feelings with a lot of the customers that I have in my area I've been in the tavern business now I've been it all my life. I've owned it for 20 years. I've run it for 22 years I moved from Seventh and Penn through eminent domain to the place I am now for the SDS people which was another big company that came into this city had a lot of good ideas and excellent Intentions with a lot of big companies go under the Livesey project took the other half of our neighborhood big Customers and I think Livesey still owes us city money I've moved down to where I am now. I watched Paul flag Take over the tannery sell off parcels of that. I've watched other big people coming. I've always been here is what I'm getting at I've made it Mentioned with the top ten taverns in the soul state.  I got nine pool tables. I got miniature bowling alleys. I've got a Bunch of dark boards.  It was built in 18 about 1890 will say someplace right in there and It comes down to the businesses that are around a lot of old businesses and there is some very easy fixes There's parking that can be put behind some of the other buildings. I believe Wisconsin mutual reality owns most of the land that's behind all of there now But there is a couple of easy fixes and I would ask that this be held over until March 19th when the rest of his Things that he has coming up. He's got I believe I think there's three more I think there's three more three of past I'm not sure if they're totally past But I know they've already been gone through and there is three that have to be Have to be done and I would hope that this could be at least gone through again until March 19th Where it can be addressed with all of us with that said I want to say thank you very much for hearing me Thank you, David. One other small thing. I want to add. Hey, I seen this today. He has a business person. I like this So, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. Is there anyone else who would like to address council Sir, please come up. Hi, and can I have your name in a home address, please? It's Muroslav M. I R. O S. L. A. V. Last name Annick A. N. I. C. In your home address 315 Ridgway Street color 53044. Okay. Thank you. And for everyone's sake I go by Nick. It's a lot easier in my real name Simply in rebuttal to David's comments earlier The zoning changes that I've requested for the former Kepsel building Are entirely consistent with every other property around that property? Every property including David's property is owned central commercial. I don't see any reason why this one shouldn't be either Secondly with the amount of parking that the Highland house is offering We'll be making available to its customers. I'll be making available to my customers and David has available to the Dave's who's in Because of the lots that he owns next door. I don't share his concerns about Parking problems of anything. I think the parking issues will be improved by the Additional parking provided by both the Highland house and my project so The only And the last comment is that the zoning changes that I'm requesting are Not only consistent with all the properties around the property that mutual realty my company purchased but is also entirely consistent with the Harbor Center plan Prepared by Van de Waal and associates and I believe approved by this August body So there really is no reason that I can see why we don't go ahead So I can go ahead start Doing work Improving what is now an eyesore to the city and making it a Property tax paying customer attractive Venue at a very critical intersection in our fair city so with that I recommend Request that you go ahead and vote affirmatively on this owning change application No questions, thank you Is there anyone else that would like to address the council? Is there anyone else that would like to address the council? Is there anyone else that would like to address the council there being done President Burke? Thank you, I moved that the hearings be closed motion and second hearings be closed any discussion There being done all those in favor say aye. Hi any opposed Motion carries hearing is closed Consent agenda 21 1 through 22 27 President Burke. Yes. Thank you again. You're right I moved to accept Approved file all the arrows except to adopt all the RC's and place the general ordinance is upon their passage Motion and second under discussion Alderman van der Wiel Thank you, under I would request that we refer 22 26 back to our public works 2226 back to public works Yes, please Okay, that will be referred back to 22 26 back to public works Anything else there being done, please call the roll Burke sir da Davis graph Hannah Kittleson clay unis Manny Meyer Montemay or Ratke Ryan Susha van der Wiel for hassled and born 16 eyes motion carries communications and petitions 22 28 through 22 30 to be referred Report of officers to 2231 by the city clerk submitting a memo from the mayor submitting comments made by neighbors at the city plan Commission on February 13th Regarding the rezoning of property located at the terminus of North Taylor Drive from class SR 5 suburban residential to mr 8 mixed residential 8 all of them want to my lord Thank You your honor Thank You your honor, I move that we accept and file the report of officer Motion second to file any discussion Being none all those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion carries 22 32 By the city plan Commission Recommending changing to use district classification of property located at the terminus of North Taylor Drive from class SR 5 suburban residential 5 to MR 8 mixed residential 8 classification Alderman month my lord. Thank You your honor I move that we accept and file the RO and the ordinance be put upon its passage Motion in second under discussion all of them have Thank You mayor This of course is a Very difficult decision for the people that live on North Taylor We try to take everybody into account and it's very important to the residents of North Taylor that if if mr. Godzucker goes forward with the condominium project that he stay on the plan that was submitted That we want to make every effort that landscaping can be done to protect the integrity of that neighborhood You know everybody most of the people I talked to wish it could stay the way it is But given the fact that as it stays now or can become single-family homes Most of them have said that it's it's best that we move ahead with the condo project on the on a high end Thank you all with Hannah anybody else They're being on please call the roll Surtah Davis Hannah Kittleson Clowness Manny Meyer Montemay or Ratke Ryan Susha Vanderwheel for hassled Warren and Berg 14 eyes to nose motion carries 2233 to 20 through 2241 to be referred Resolutions introduced three 2242 well been dropped I'm sorry what Almost our vice president sir. Thank you, your honor 2240 with that is that okay if that could be referred also to a ppn Yes, I'm sorry if you had pointed that out earlier 2240 Is indicated there will be referred to finance and also now to public protection and safety. Please make that notation Thank You vice president sir. No my apologies Resolutions introduced three 2242 by old man graph Hannah Warren Clowness and Susha Authorizing the purchase an agent to solicit proposals for the bond council legal services for all general obligation Debt issued by the city during the period from June 1st 07 to May 31st 09 Alderman graph. Thank you, your honor. I would move that the resolution be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion There be a non, please call the roll Davis graph Hannah Kittleson Clowness Manny Meyer Montemay or Ratke Ryan Susha Vanderwheel for hassled Warren Berg and Serta 16 eyes motion carries 22 43 and 2244 lies over 2245 and 2246 to be referred Report of committee 7 2247 by law and licensing Recommendant denying taxi cab drivers license number 73 49 based on the applicants apparent withdrawal of his application His failure to reveal all violations when his application and his non appearance before the committee Alderman Ratke Thank you, your honor. I move that the report of committee be accepted and adopted Motion in second to accept and adopt under discussion under discussion is Ed Gardner Gonzalez Cordova here this evening Not here this evening your honor. Thank you. I'm in Ratke any further discussion Please call the roll graph Hannah Kittleson Clowness Manny Meyer Montemay or Ratke Ryan Susha Vanderwheel ver hassled Warren Berg Serta and Davis 16 eyes motion carries 2248 and 2249 to be referred Report of committee 9 2250 will be held is be will be hold held for 2257. Please make that notation Ordinances introduced 10 2251 by Alderman Ratke repealing various ordinances been creating sections of the municipal code Relating to property exteriors and graffiti abatement Alderman Ratke Thank you, your honor. I would move for suspension of the rules There's a motion second to suspend the rules is there any objection There is none. Please proceed. I would make a motion at the general ordinance be put upon its passage Motion in second to put 2251 upon its passage under discussion. Thank you, your honor discussion This is just simply a cleanup of a clerical error that happened with the municipal code Some things were deleted that shouldn't have been we're just putting this back in so we can get things back in order for a couple of Departments to use these ordinances on a regular basis. Very good. Thank you, Alderman Ratke Any further discussion? They're being on please call the roll Hannah Kittleson clay Eunice Manny Meyer Montemay or Ratke Ryan Susha Vander wheel for hassled Born Berg Serta Davis Excuse me and graph 16 eyes motion carries 2252 lies over Matters laid over 11 2145 and our own our own number for 4830607 by the city plan Commission Recommendant amended the zoning of property located at 1010 South 9th Street from class UI urban industrial to class CC central commercial Classification all of them want to my own Thank you, your honor I moved to accept and file the RO and the ordinance be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion There be a nut present bird. Oh, yes. Thank you, your honor. I think given the Hearing results I would be interested in hearing up from our client department Very well, what the changes might specifically entail very well We I need it I need a motion to open the floor. I'm so close. He's not a A department head Second to the move All those in favor say aye Any opposed motion carries you have the floor What we have tonight is a mixed use proposal that will eventually come Obviously the capsule building was plumbing warehouse. So it's zoned urban industrial with a lot of the other factories that are present located in that area It's been sitting baking for some time We have a great opportunity of someone looking to come in and do a mixed use development with this building That's bacon right now in order to do the types of things. He's after he's looking at a mixed use type of Zones, which is exactly it consistent where everything else is along there with the taverns the retail The restaurants and it's really just kind of jumping from the top here and continuing moving along the river Continuing on up the river. So it's exactly what we're hopeful for As the state by mr. And it it's compliant with our comprehensive plan and one of the things that I just finished off is our Master plan phase 3 harper center master plan phase 3 and it was exactly what it was after it was to reuse this historic building And a mixed use fashion and staff strongly recommends approval of the proposal Thank you so close to any further discussion There is none. Please call the roll Kittleson Clowness Manny Meyer Montemay or Radke Ryan Sushia Vander wheel for hassled born Berg Serta Davis graph and Hannah 16 eyes Motion carries 2168 resolution number 240 230 607 by old man graph Hannah clay you know sushi and born Authorizing a transfer of appropriations in the old seven budget all in one graph. Would you like to take 69 and 68? Yes, your honor. I will I would move that the resolutions 2168 and 2169 that both resolutions be put upon their passage Motion in second under discussion There being on Please call the roll Clowness Manny Meyer Montemay or Radke Ryan Sushia Vander wheel for hassled born Berg Serta graph. I'm sorry Davis graph Hannah and Kittleson 16 eyes motion carries 2176 general orders number 7050607 by Alderman Vander wheel Serta Berg Montemay or and Meyer relating to the new parking zones on school Avenue so as to delete the no parking standing stop in School day 70 amp to 4 p.m. Buses only zone along the north side of school Avenue Alderman Vander wheel Thank you, honor. I would like to take 2177 with that Please do and I will move to put those general ordinances upon their passage Motion in second under discussion Being done, please call the roll Manny Thank you, Meyer Montemay or Racky Ryan Sushia Vander wheel for hassled Warren Berg Serta Davis graph Hannah Kittleson and Clowness 16 eyes motion carries other matters authorized by law All the moment not yet Getting a little ahead of me here other matters authorized by law 2253 an RO by the city plan commission Recommending repealing and recreating sections of the historic preservation regulations of the city's zoning code Relating to the rights of property owners relating to the designation of historic structures Sites and districts and passing the attached substitute revised ordinance All the moment. Thank you, your honor. I move to accept and file the RO's and pass the revised ordinance Motion in second under discussion All right Thank You mr. Mayor more of a question here. We have two versions of the historic Preservation ordinance here if I could refer to attorney McLean are these identical now Document 2253 and 2254 are identical. They are identical. No, thank you Thank you all Ryan all of them barn Thank You your honor. I just want to reiterate that I'm From the last meeting that I'm glad to see that these documents now reflect The rights of the property owner as I discussed at the last meeting I think it's very important that the property owners have a say both in a historic structure and also In a historic district. I think that's very important. Thank you In this instance, I would ask I would generally ask element Ryan Since he is a member of the start preservation committee to act on 2254 if that's permissible Would all of them want them are like to include both being at their same said okay with you Okay, so the motion would be to to accept and file 2253 2254 and Put the substitute revised ordinances upon their passage clear Any further discussion? There be a non, please call the roll Meyer Montemayor Racky Ryan Susha Vander wheel for hassled born Berg Surtah Davis graph Hannah Kittleson Clowness and Manny 16 eyes motion carries 2255 an RC by salary and grievances recommend in filing documents related to Deleting the position of network specialists in the finance information systems table of organization and adding the position of Meryl technology advisor in the mayor's office to all of them in Susha Thank You your honor. I move the report of committee be accepted and adopted Motion in second under discussion. Thank you. I just wanted to Comment that at the request of our finance director Rich Gephardt. We are going to leave the network specialist position as is Thank you So be accepted up in file. Yes, any further discussion? We didn't get a second to that. Do we? Alderman graph seconded one grew up. Okay, any further discussion? There be an on all those in favor say aye. Any opposed motion carries 2256 an RC by salaries and grievances recommend in filing documents submitting a Communication from a woman born relating to a state pension funds article and asking questions regarding the city's Possible shortfall for pension and health care retirement benefits for city employees and retirees all in Susha Thank You your honor. I move that the report of committee be accepted and adopted to file Motion second under discussion Be none all those in favor say aye any opposed motion carries 2257 an RC by salary and grievances Recommended prohibiting elected officials from seeking or accepting employment with the city within two years after leaving the elected office and passing the attached Substitute ordinance and that We we need an action on 2257 an action on 2250 Alderman Hannah Hold on hold on. I'm sorry. Hold on Would you like to take that or Alderman Susha? Thank you, I would like to have 2250 and 2257 referred back to salary and grievance So make a motion motion and second to refer back. Yes Anybody object to that? All those in favor say aye. Hi any opposed? motion This is to refer Montemay or Radke Ryan Susha Vander wheel for hassled Lauren Sirda Davis graph Hannah Kittlesen Clayunas Manny and Meyer 14 eyes to nose motion carries Is there anyone lights were on anybody that would like to say anything at the moment? I turn off lights. Okay 2258 Clayunas 2258 a resolution by Alderman Clayunas Montemay or Kittlesen Manny accepting the agreement with the local 2039 asked me for 2007-2009 and authorizing the collective bargaining committee and the chairman of the committee on salary and grievances to sign the agreement Alderman Clayunas Thank You Your Honor. I move that resolution 2258 be put upon its passage Motion and second on your discussion Alderman born Thank You Your Honor and looking over these documents in these contracts. I noticed that this one for Asked me was the only one of the bargaining units that did not agree to go up to paying eight percent of their Health insurance premiums after I'm did I say eight percent? I meant that did not agree to go up to ten percent at the end of the contract and the other ones did I was wondering if anybody Without giving any privileged information could tell me why this was the only union that didn't agree to go up to ten percent after three years Yes, all men born at the That would be the union that represents the department of public works and that was one of the first unions that was bargained with and it was bargain in good faith and Before they before them there had been other negotiations. They agreed to eight Could they have agreed to ten perhaps they didn't there were the first one to act on it The other units came back and acted on ten I would ask that whatever they bargained in good faith and with the salary and grievance and our director of Human resources be be honored. Although they did not agree to ten other Alderman Susha Thank You Your Honor. I want to thank the public works union for working with the city to reach this agreement in such a Timely fashion. I also want to thank Ed sir for inviting the salary and grievance committee in to observe most of the negotiations As chairperson of salary and grievance I was honored to be able to see how professional everyone conducted themselves during these meetings a lot of times when you think of Negotiations you think of a lot of words flying back and forth and things flying throughout the room And it was very professional and I really appreciate everyone's cooperation I also want to extend a very special Thank You to all the persons Kittleson and Montmire for taking so much of their personal time to attend almost every bargaining session for each union Just to recap for the people at home in regards to what's what's in this contract They're all pretty much the same with the exception of what alderman born pointed out The contracts are three years in length Right now the city uses primarily the phn network But now people who are enrolled in the phn network can also utilize the aurora quick care with no out-of-pocket cost This is really a win-win situation for both the employees and the taxpayers the quick care provides a licensed nurse practitioner They have a location on the south side a location on the north side I know that the south side hours are really long their Monday through Saturday 8 a.m. To 8 p.m Sunday from 8 a.m. To 4 p.m. They see only Common ailments such as strep throat ear infection pink eye UTI's seasonal allergies mono and contact dermatitis That it's not a place to go if you have something more serious than any of the things I mentioned above But what's really nice is that if you have a child on a Saturday afternoon at 6 p.m. With an ear infection You now have a place to take them at no cost to the employee instead of going to the emergency room so hopefully by utilizing quick care we're going to see the use of the emergency room reduced and That's going to just be a win-win for everybody involved The prescription drug co-pay will increase to ten dollars for generic or for brand-name drugs where no generic is available and $20 for brand-name drugs where generics are available and then the employee shall pay a fifty dollar co-pay for emergency room services and That will be waived if the employee is admitted in regards to the wage increases January 1st 2007 there would be a 3% increase January 1st 2008 would be a three and a quarter and then in 09 it's going to be a split raise January 1st would be 2% July 1st would be one and a half percent a couple of months ago We talked about the quid pro quo if an employee is contributing 3% more towards their health insurance That's pretty much equivalent to a 1% pay increase and in the long run It's going to be very good to get the employees contributing more to the health plan in the long run That's going to be so much better for the taxpayers because the rate of insurance is escalating much faster Than what a pay increase would as far as the changes with their Contribution to the health insurance effective February 1st of 07 the DPW contract is going to double What they're currently paying currently the employees are paying two and a half percent and it's going up to five percent January 1st 2008 their contribution will go up to seven percent in January 1st 2009 their contribution will be going up to eight percent Now I think compromise is important But when it comes to spending the taxpayers money on employee health insurance I need to stand by my convictions and preserve my character and vote against the DPW contract I will be supporting the other contracts that the employees are contributing 10 percent towards their health insurance by 2009 but I cannot support a contract with employees only contributing eight percent. Thank you Thank you Yes, thank you your honor I think I would mirror the concern that older person Sushia had Just to express regarding the settlement eight percent. I guess I would Given that this is a bargain issue and given that an appeal would be solved to mediation and arbitration I would have a question of our HR director if he could perhaps address them regarding the The posture that we would take in an arbitration of a matter like this Sir, would you please step up? Thank you. Yeah, I guess I would have HR director. I would lean towards the Decision of the salary agreements committee and whether they recommend to to go to Mediation or arbitration initial step problem would be mediation I think comparing the contracts. They're economically basically the same It depends on your on your perspective as to whether Wages are more important than contributions and and it's kind of to say a horse apiece, but that's kind of we are with it now I do agree with me or the first Contract to settle was public works at an eight percent level for premium chair that's that at the end of second year by the way and The other contracts were at ten percent at the end of the second year of the contracts President Berger a question. Yes, sir. Thank you, your honor Given the situation where you have Tonight if we ratify the three contracts at ten percent that would then serve would that be a significant precedent for the arbitrator where the city By other unions have settled at ten percent. So in other words if we were to Not approve the public works contract Send it back to be reopened by salary and grievance And we did approve the three contracts that we have with the ten percent copay I guess I would value your opinion on how an arbitrator would look at that were we to again remain at a stale Stale mate with an eight percent level for one contract and perhaps a ten percent level for the rest of the contracts with the city Well arbitration in the public sector a little different in the private sector in the public sector the arbitrator has certain guidelines to follow and Which are the most important or valued? items within whichever the final offer of the city might be as opposed to the offer that the union might be but one of the most I'd say highly considered decisions in a partner Ideas and probably I would say would be internal comparisons and if majority of the employees are at ten percent level at a higher level I I can't say exactly what would happen, but it would be a strong consideration. Okay. Thank you Thank you, your honor. I just would like to point out in the DPW contract that in effect of January 1st 2009 they're only receiving a two percent increase in wages and that is That is also a benefit to the city as well. Their wages are going to be lower in increasing than the other departments Which is an advantage to the city as well. So I just consider that as well. There's a There's a bigger picture here I Was present during that negotiation with the They asked me and eight percent folks was groundbreaking We hadn't heard about ten percent yet and that was done in good faith fair bargaining to destroy our to damage I should say our new Relationship with the unions. It's not good for that two percent Considering that they're only going to get a two percent increases all of them including this is We can play games anybody can play games what we're looking at We need to start developing trust between this council between its committees and our union members If we start playing games now, I don't think that in my mind that would be fair dealing Now you can do what you want tonight, but I would strongly urge That we just pass and approve all these contracts as they've been bargained for in really good faith Alderman Thank you, your honor. You've pretty much said what I was thinking also They bargained in good faith. We bargained in good faith and as Alderman Clayuna said they are not getting that as large a wage increase as the other unions Thank you Thank You mayor Rising health care costs is just a given in today's society and I think These agreements are reflective of a strong relationship between the council and the various unions in the city and I would support them There's another there's another factor here that you I would ask you to please consider we're looking at a three-year agreement We took a risk they took a risk But it allows us to plan in the past every year every year We didn't know what we were up against it could have gone arbitration to mediation. It could go anywhere We wanted to go We need to establish some structure and the only way can establish some structures to negotiate in good faith The three-year contract which we've done Granted 10% would be better, but we did grumb raking at eight and it allows us to plan allows you to plan We're still after fair. We're gonna get the money from but it allows us to plan home and right sir Thank You your honor seeing as the DPWF SCM a where they first to negotiate You know settled at the the 8% and a smaller pay raise it does not make Any sense to me whatsoever to to reject this at this point. I think we should approve it. Thank you. Thank you, Ryan Anybody else okay, we will Call the roll in 2258 with the ask me for 2007 2009 Contract please call the roll Radke Ryan sushi Bander wheel for hassled foreign Berg Surtah Davis Groth Hannah Kittlesen Clowness Manny Meyer and Montemay or 13 eyes three nose Motion carries 22 59 a Resolution by Alderman sushi clay Eunice Montemayor Kittlesen and Manny accepting the agreement with the professional police officers Supervisory association for 07 and 09 and authorized the collective bargaining committee and the chairman of the committee on salaries and grievances to sign the agreement We have 59 60 and 61 pretty much mirroring in themselves. You'd like to take all three of them. I'm sushi. Please do Thank you, your honor. I move that these three resolutions be put upon their passage Motion in second under discussion. Thank you I just wanted to also extend my thanks to the police supervisors The firemen and also the police officers. I appreciated their professionalism during the negotiations and their cooperation This is really a landmark first of all a lot of time went into getting the negotiations approved But if you remember the last times we negotiated with the the unions this went on for approximately 17 months We just settled in the middle of 2006 and that was a two-year contract So this is this is wonderful that we are able to wrap things up in the first six weeks of the year So I I'm very pleased for that and I'm very appreciative to everybody's cooperation. Thank you. Thank you Okay, please call the roll Okay, we've got all in Kittlesen. Thank you. Mr. Mayor. Are you going to be voting on all three? Yes Me I mean we take a separate vote on 2260, please. I won't need to abstain. What number 2260 2260 you would like to separate vote and we will call a vote on 2259 and 2261. Thank you But he got that. Okay, please call the roll Ryan Susha Vanderweel for Hasselt Born Davis Kittlesen Clowness Manny Meyer Montemayor and Radke 16 eyes Motion carries 2260 you want to reiterate your motion there on the Susha. I Move that the resolution be put upon its passage motion in second any discussion Bring it on please call the roll Susha Vanderweel for Hasselt Oran Berg Serta Davis graph Hannah Kittlesen Clowness Manny Meyer Montemayor Racky and Ryan 15 eyes one abstention Motion carries 2262 lies over 2263 lies over 2264 will be referred to city plan commission 2265 will be referred to joint municipal court advisory committee 2266 and 67 lies over other matters attorney McLean 2268 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting various license applications for the period ending June 30 2007 and June 30 2008 That will be referred to law and licensing 2269 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting a summons and complaint in the manner of EMC mortgage corp versus the city of Sheboygan at all that will be referred to risk management 2270 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting all the person for hassles Wisconsin police station analysis summary that will go to city county share services and ability to use 2271 is a communication from Keith Potter questioning issues with debt owed to the Wisconsin retirement system That will be referred to finance committee 2272 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting communication from all the person for hassles Stating that a number of his constituents have stated their concerns about the inconsistent sidewalks of area avenue on area avenue between Memorial Mall and Review apartments that will be referred to public works Motion and second to adjourn all those in favor say aye opposed stand adjourned