The story of Dr. Kildare. Whatsoever house I enter, there will I go for the benefit of the sick. And whatsoever things I see or hear, concerning the life of men, I will keep silence thereon, counting such things to be held as sacred trust. I will exercise my art solely. The story of Dr. Kildare, starring new heirs and black metro-goldman there, brought you those famous motion pictures. Now, this exciting, heartwarming series is heard on radio. In just a moment, the story of Dr. Kildare. But first, you're on answer. Miss Quinn, I'd like to have you meet the head of our diagnostic clinic, Dr. Gillespie. How do you do, Dr. Gillespie? I've heard Dr. Kildare mention your name many times. Yeah, Miss Quinn, my pleasure. You're new here, aren't you? Cap in the country. So orthopedic. Oh, that's exactly right, Dr. Gillespie. Yeah, welcome to Blair General, Miss Quinn. We're happy to have you. We certainly are. I know I'm going to love it here. Thank you both. I'll be waiting for you, Dr. Kildare. Ah, wonderful girl. Yeah, ma'am. She's very pretty. Oh, Miss Quinn. Yes, isn't she? Outside of Diana Verna, I'd say she's just about the prettiest nurse I've ever seen around this hospital. I'm lucky to have her on my ward. Isn't Diana working with you anymore? She's on a two-week vacation. Joan's her replacement. She certainly is. Jimmy, I've been thinking about your future. My future? Now, what brought that up? A young doctor in a large hospital should be very careful of things. Things, Dr. Gillespie? What kind of things? Well, um, things. He should never find himself in a position where people might question his personal life. Oh, oh, I agree. Absolutely right. The best way to avoid such a situation is to get married.  She's a wonderful girl. I agree. You don't have to sell me on Diana. I am much older than you are, Jimmy. And, uh, well, I'm not making myself very clear. I want you to... Excuse me. Still there speaking? Oh, yes, yes. Oh, is it that late? Well, I'll be right there. Yes, Joan? Sorry, Doctor, I've got to run. But, Jimmy, I wanted to talk to you about this. Let's have lunch together. I'm afraid I'm tired up for lunch. Some other time. See you later, Doctor. Joan. Well, Joan, this is our cafeteria at Blad General. How do you like it?  This is a wonderful hospital. I'm very glad you're here. Very glad. Oh, may I have the sugar? Oh, yeah. Oh, Jimmy, I was never so happy. I could just kiss you. Well, don't do it now. People might not understand. Jimmy, what do you mean? You know very well what I mean. Dr. Gillespie sitting over there glaring at us, and every intern in the place is having indigestion on account of you. Well, I'm with you, and all that will stop pretty soon. I know it will. Jimmy, I'm so glad. I'm so honestly glad to be working with you. I'm sort of protected from things like that. What was it in Chicago, Joan? Oh, the usual. A patient who was in the hospital for a rather long convalescence thought he'd fallen in love with me, and, well, I just couldn't stay on. You didn't have to leave. If I know you, Joan, you didn't encourage him. No, not purposely. Oh, Jimmy, ever since I was in high school and won my first beauty contest, I've known how to lower my eyes at just the right time, or look sad, or wholesome, or whatever the occasion demanded. It's become sort of reflex. I don't know how I'm doing it sometimes, and things happen that I don't intend to happen. I see. Well, it was fun then, teasing. Now I'm a grown woman, graduate nurse. I don't want a lot of men falling all over themselves for me. There's only one man I want. You're using your eyes on me right now. Oh, darn it. There I go. You see how it is? Help me, Jimmy, prescribe something. I'll tell you what, to play safe, and so you won't lose your touch. You just do it when you're around me. The rest of the time, be on your guard. Thank you, Doctor. I'll do my best. I'll just be as I live and breathe. Are you up here to ask for a new nurse? New nurse? Leonard, you haven't been fighting with Dr. Karoo again, and want me to smooth it over for you. Oh, no, no, no, no. Karoo and I get along just fine. Well, I know you aren't here to ask me to marry you, so there's just one other thing. Come on, out with it. I'm a busy woman. What about Dr. Kildare? Molly, I'm worried about that new nurse he's got, the one who's replacing Diana Werner. When? What's wrong with her? I met her for the first time today. I don't like the way she looks at him. You mean you came up here just to tell me you don't like the way a nurse looks at a doctor? It's the way Kildare is looking at her. You've lost your mind. Oh, Molly, what I'm trying to say is that she's a... well, she's an awful lot of girl. You should have seen him at lunch today. People are beginning to talk already. Oh, nice thing. Yeah. Well, let them talk. Joan's only going to be with Dr. Kildare until Diana Werner returns. That's just two weeks and then she'll have a regular assignment.  Well, you've always said you thought Dr. Kildare should marry. Ah, but hang it all, Molly. Diana Werner is a girl for Jimmy Kildare, not Joan Quinn. She's got a vampire look to her. Maybe she has, but she's still a good nurse. Ah, good nurse. You ought to be in a chorus, lion. And Dr. Kildare certainly thinks so. Yeah, she's out for him, Molly. You've got to transfer that female Rasputin right away. I don't have to do anything of her sort. Isn't it? Oh, there's my buzzer. Got to get over to pathology right away. Molly, I wish you'd look at this from my point of view. Joan is a capable nurse. Dr. Kildare's more than satisfied with her. I will not transfer her, and that is final. Delilah, if I ever saw one. She's out. This is Gillespie. Oh, Dr. Gillespie, I was just calling... It's the nurse for that ward. She's brilliant, capable. Her name is Joan Quinn. Specialized in orthopedic work in Chicago. Brand new here. Well, yeah, just temporarily on Kildare's ward. But she could be unassigned. Oh, why couldn't do that? You could have you knew the circumstances. I'll be right down to your office and explain in detail. Why Miss Quinn has been transferred to orthopedic ward? Well, now, Dr. Kildare, she is a specialist in orthopedic work. But I made a request that she be assigned to me. Yes, I know about that. Oh, really? And how did you know? Well, I mean, I heard about it. I thought that I... Oh, Dr. Gillespie, just the man I wanted to see. Oh, Jimmy, why is it, Carol? Dr. Kildare has been asking me about Miss Quinn. Oh, well, I think I'll be running a little longer. Just a minute. Did you have anything to do with all this? Jimmy, I don't have anything to do with the assignment of nurses. That's a smally bird's problem. I know. Only she told me she didn't have anything to do with this case. You might as well know. Dr. Gillespie and I decided it would be better for you if Miss Quinn were placed in another hospital. We thought she might distract you from your work, Jimmy. I see. Then you both were aware of all the trouble I went to to have her work for me. Well, Jimmy, people were starting to talk about you, too. And so you just stepped in and straightened matters out, right? Well, we did it for your own good. I see. Well, if I weren't already aware of Miss Quinn's charms, I'm certainly aware of them now, thanks to you. And if I felt they were interfering with my work in any way, I would have taken steps. I think I'm a mature enough person to make my own decisions in these matters. Or maybe you don't think so around here. I don't think we did the right thing, Dr. Gillespie. Yes, lots. Didn't you know it, Dr. Gillespie? Okay, if there's one thing I don't want, it's a lecture from you. I'll go out and clean a test tube and leave me alone. And you're going to have to apologize to him sooner or later. Might as well be sooner. I waited in his office for three hours exactly. And he never showed up. Well, you just have to catch him when you can. Well, she's caught him, all right. That nurse, she's an enchantress. She's a lure, a vixen. She came here from Chicago with a mission. I see it all now. What are you talking about? I never considered for one moment that Jimmy would ever leave Blair General. Dr. Killare leaving? An hour ago, I learned something while I was waiting in his office. There was a letter on his desk. A letter on his desk? You mean you read his mail? I certainly did. It was from a Chicago hospital offering him a poster. No. Yes, Parker, yes. And I believe we just lost the best young doctor in the country. Dr. Killare, in just a moment. They didn't want me working with you. Isn't that right? Oh, I don't know. Let me shift people around here all the time. Oh, no, that's not true, Jimmy, because we had lunch together and went out one night. And because you requested me to work with you, it looks bad for you, doesn't it? A few people have probably made some comments here and there. They don't mean a thing. Oh, please don't try to make it easy for me, Jimmy. They must mean something if you're going to leave the hospital. Oh, just a minute. But I have to be perfectly honest with you, Jimmy. The way it sounded to me, it seemed as if you were being asked to resign. That's so. Well, I didn't believe it, of course. I didn't want to. But all the other nurses had suddenly started treating me as if I'd committed some crime. It isn't true that you're being fired, is it? Oh, no, Joan, I'm not being fired. Here's what I was looking for. Oh, what is it? Just a letter of mine. Thought for a minute it might have been missing. I should never have left it on my desk. What am I going to do, Jimmy? Should I go to Dr. Karoo? Or should I quit? Or what? Joan, believe me, you don't have to leave this time. What's happened is not your fault. It's my job to do something, and I know just what I'm going to do. Yes, Dr. Gillespie? Didn't I just see you come out of Dr. Kildare's office? What are you doing with all those books and things? Carrying them. And if I stand here much longer, I might drop them. I'm doing a favor for a friend. What friend? Dr. Gillespie, I'm afraid that at the moment that I am not at liberty to divulge that, I promise, my friend. You're not at liberty, huh? Come now, William. What is it? Another minute, Doctor. I'll drop these books, so help me. Tell me all about it now, and you won't have to stand there. Here they go. See what you made me do. Oh, I'm sorry, William. Here, let me help you pick them up. No, no, no. Thanks, Doctor. I'll do it all right myself. I insist I'm helping you. After all, look, these books belong to Dr. Kildare. I'm sorry you looked, Doctor. Show them I, William. So am I. Tell me, where are you supposed to take these things? To his car. And there's a lot of other stuff, too. Microscopes and things. I see. Then he's made up his mind. Look, you can't let him go, Doc. He's too nice a guy. A lot of people agree with you, Wayman. A lot of people. Jimmy? Jimmy, my boy, come in. Come in. You sent for me, Dr. Gillespie? Well, it's sort of a slow afternoon. I thought it might be nice for the two of us to sit around and chat. Not too slow up at my end of the hospital. Jimmy, let's get to the point.  That's pretty harsh self-condemnation, Doctor. Well, well deserved, Jimmy. I must confess that I was the one who had Joan Quinn transferred out of your department. Yes, I know. You've always been my favorite doctor. Not only mine, but a lot of people. You're the apple of Dr. Karoo's eye. Really? Yes, indeed.  Through the good years and the bad years. Exactly. And he was saying it was getting close to the time when you should be rewarded for your faithfulness. Thank him for me. And as for myself, Jimmy, I've always looked forward to your taking over my post on that sad day when they set me out to pasture. Dr. G, I suspect you'll still be at this desk 30 years. Oh, no, Jimmy. No, no, no, no. Confidentially, I don't think it'll be long now. My usefulness is about over, you know?  I'm deeply moved, Dr. Gillespie. But my own plans for the future are a little uncertain at present. If you'll excuse me, I have to return to my work. Oh, sure. Give me duty, okay, before anything else. We'll talk again later. Of course, and that. In a couple days, you're going to be less one doctor and I'm going to be out one friend. Well, if there is, I haven't thought of it yet. And frankly, right at the moment, I feel worse than I've felt in years. Madam Jones. They set me up for you. Can you come to 3B right away? Certainly. What is it? Dr. Gillespie just collapsed in his office. Well, I don't really know. I came in and found him on the floor. I had some ward attendants bring him in here. I started to examine him, but he insisted that you look after him. Oh, dear. I don't think I'll live another hour. Jimmy, Jimmy, is that you? Right here, Dr. Jean. Your pulse is way up. Must be 140. Exactly what it is. You have a temperature and your face is flushed. Tell me what happened. He became dizzy. He had spots before his eyes. I can tell him, Karoo. I can tell him. Oh. That roar, it happened to me. Oh, don't get excited, Dr. Gillespie. Everything went black. Yes, black. And the last thing I remember was pouring out of that chair. Do you have any idea what it might be? Jimmy, I can't figure it out. I guess I'm just overworked. Yes, he's overworked. Jimmy, I don't want any other doctor looking after me. Promise me that you'll stay with me until I get through this. Yes, do promise. I promise, Dr. Jean. Good boy. I guess I'll just have to run you through a whole series of clinical tests. I'll get started on it right away. Oh, we did it. If we can get him to stay now, we can get him to stay forever. Hey, Dr. Kildare. He's resting comfortably, Parker. Oh. Oh, I don't know what I'd do if anything happened to that man. Tell me, Parker, was the doctor in his laboratory about a half an hour ago? Well, as he was. Did you by any chance see what he was doing there? Oh, well, no. No, not exactly. Well, I think hard, Parker. Well, I think I did. He remembers something about digitalis. Oh, digitalis, huh? Digitalis. Thank you, Parker. Thank you very much. Will he be all right, Dr. Kildare? Parker, I think he'll be up and around before you know it.  Take what? Well, you're suffering from an unusual malady, one known as acute snoopitis. Acute snoopitis? Yes, the symptoms are bulging of the eyes and large amount of the ears and elongation of the nose, not to mention an inability at controlling speech. Why, Jimmy, how could you? And as for that fever and fast pulse, you took digitalis to give you those symptoms. I did? You did. Well, what sort of treatment do you prescribe, doctor? Something to stop the disease once and for all, immediate injection of the truth in the form of certain facts to counteract certain fictions. Well, I guess I'm ready for the first injection I guess you are. Fiction. But Joan Quinn and I are emotionally interested in each other. In fact, we are just old friends. I was the best man at her wedding. She married a medical student six months ago, and those books and personal equipment I was moving out were for him to save him some money. Say, I'm beginning to feel better already. Fiction. I am going to leave Blair General Hospital. In fact, I am not. I received a letter from another hospital, considered it for a day, and rejected it. If you'd only looked further down into that pile of letters on my desk, you'd have found my reply turning down the job. Jimmy, I confess you were right. You know, I think I'm just about killed. Now, wait a minute. Another injection. Fiction. You are getting out of bed. In fact, you are not. No. No, no, no.  Now, whether you know it or not, you are running down from overwork. A few days in bed will do you a world of good. I'm signing the order myself. Oh, now, Jimmy. Oh, now, Jimmy, me. And I'll tell you another thing. Your nurse is going to be Joan Quinn. Oh, really? Well, I'll say, you know, maybe you've got something. Maybe, maybe I do need a rest. Turn to the story of Dr. Kildare. Bring like a kiss. Oh, well, there's these buzzers. She asked me to look after him for a few minutes. I think I'll look in on him with you. Hello, cutie. Huh? What are you hiding, Dr. Gillespie? I'm not hiding. Sling shot. Made out of a piece of rubber tubing. Well, a man has to do something.  I'm a pretty good shot, too. I can hit the door now four times out of five. What's your ammunition? Pills. Dr. Gillespie. Well, just for that, I think I'm going to keep you in bed three more days. Ah, you wouldn't. Yes, I would. Good. With mine, pleasant dreams, Dr. Gillespie. I'll be back. And Lionel Barrymore. This program was written by E. Jack Newman and John Michael Hayes and directed by Joe Bigelow. Original music was composed and conducted by Walter Schumann. Supporting cast included Virginia Gregg, Ted Osburn, Ed Max, Eleanor Audley, and Betty Lou Gerson. Dick Joy speaking.


Live from Barcelona, Spain. It's theCUBE, covering Cisco Live 2020. Brought to you by Cisco and its ecosystem partners. Hello everyone, welcome back to Cisco Live Barcelona 2020. Kick it off. The new year, of course, is theCUBE's coverage of four days of CUBE action. All day I'm John Furrier, my host Stu Miniman, the two great guests, Thomas Sheba, Vice President of Cisco and Yusuf Khan, Vice President of Technical Marketing. All things data center and networking, these are the guys. Guys, good to see you again, welcome back. Thanks. Always fun. So kicking off the show, I know that some announcements coming, so we're going to save the good stuff for tomorrow and Wednesday, but a lot of new things going on, data center and Cisco ecosystem. Give us the update. Yeah, again, thanks for having us on. So yeah, I mean, there's actually a lot of good stuff on the data center site. Let me touch a couple of items. One of, we kind of started two years ago, actually, was assurance. We're expanding our analytics portfolio, we're adding the insights capability. So it's the assurance and network insights tool set. Very, very cool stuff. Really focused on the network operator, and it was one of the messages we got. You guys need to help us here in these complex cloud environments. And so what we have is we built ACI extensions for our fabric controllers, Balsa, Nexus and ACI site. Same thing, pure software extension, and initial feedback from customers is very, very happy what they see. So that's one piece. I don't know, Yusuf, you want to take a little bit on what we do with ecosystem partners? No, thank you. Yes, I mean, we are very excited also to announce some of the new integrations that we have with our ecosystem partners. And for example, Elgosec and ACI integration, Terraform from HashiCorp and ACI integration, continued expansion with our Splunk apps with the ecosystem. So these are some of the new things that we are working on. So that is excellent. And on top of it, Thomas, you can expand on it, but I think we are very happy that our 400 gig portfolio is shipping now, and we have customers in production on our 400 gig portfolio. So that is great news for us. Yeah, that's actually a good point. You mentioned Splunk and Terraform, HashiCorp, you know, ecosystem partners. It's interesting, if you look at the performance of a lot of those companies, cloud was as a tailwind for them. So because the consumption is a service, the customers are all embracing it, but it's not just public cloud. It's the data center now is back. So can you guys just share your thoughts on your environment with your customers because the software is the key, get it as a subscription or consumable model. What are some of the trends with the consumer, I mean, customers in the data center because cloud and hybrid now is happening and it's real growth. Oh, it's absolutely happening. So yeah, I mean, maybe a little bit of why this is happening while we're having some of these integration. You're absolutely right, cloud is happening, but really cloud means hybrid cloud or for some customers, multi-cloud hybrid because they're going to have two different cloud providers. But it's really a hybrid cloud. So it's really distributed data center. And so the interesting piece happens, it's really two things that need to come together. There's this whole network automation analytics, which is how do I get from my data center into a cloud and how do I treat this really like the utility? But that's the infrastructure, but then there's this front end because what really drives this is the application refactoring. And this is where the application automation needs to come together with the infrastructure automation. And so that's one of the reasons why we have this integration with Terraform and the other one is like a Jenkins pipeline tool. How do we actually take what the application was doing in front end and then seamlessly make this into infrastructure, which is like, as you probably know, the infrastructure as a code sync. And that doesn't really matter whether that's in the cloud or on-prem that has to work across. That automation is a huge thing. And it's so nice to hear because Thomas actually, when Cisco first came out with application centric infrastructure, I kind of looked at a little bit. I'm like, well, come on, how much you're actually tying to the application? Well, it was Cisco skating to where the puck was going. And I think that the technology today and what you're talking about is closer to that application. We have, you know, we're here in the DevNet zone. We're talking more about those pieces, not just, oh, it's something that runs over the pipes and I've got buffers and traditional networking pieces. So would you say that's fair that we're a little bit more application centric today in 2020 than we might have been a couple of years ago? It's actually, it's a very good comment. I'm probably would spin it slightly different because I'm the pragmatic guy. Yeah, do we want everything at the same time? Absolutely, right? But you do have to put some of the building blocks in place. And yes, application centric really meant more, we changed the configuration management scheme of infrastructure from thinking about network terms to using application terms. And that's really what application centric means. It doesn't mean you change your application. It was more like change the paradigm, how do you manage infrastructure to not just automate, everybody does that, but actually have an abstraction layer that is meaningful to secure an app to people. And you're right, it takes time to get there. In the end, customers and users are looking to deploy applications faster, manage applications better. That's the whole purpose of building the data center so that we can host the application. So what we did is we introduced constructs that can help you manage those applications better, deploy them faster, manage the life cycle of those applications faster. And that's why we introduced the constructs. And again, going back to your comment in terms of buffers and switches, we firmly believe that the plumbing, which is the networking, has to be state of art for us to abstract these things on top through software and exploit through software. So we have to have a best in class network and the switches, and then we have to have build the abstraction that we can exploit through the software means. And also that highlights the partnerships that you mentioned, companies like Splunk and HashiCorp, they're living in a multi-cloud environment. So I shouldn't need to think about for some of them, oh wait, is it hybrid cloud, public cloud A or my data center, things like that? I'm going to have that common tooling and skill set across those environments. Because all the CIOs that we talked to, I mean, multi-cloud is part of, big part of their strategy. And they want to make sure that they have consistent security posture, whether it is on-prem, whether it is on multi-cloud, or consistent governance model across hybrid cloud. Yeah, that's a good point. I want to get your thoughts on that because multi-cloud and hybrid, which both mentioned is interesting. And what we were saying in our opening segment just earlier, multi-cloud is a business problem. It's what you have. It's a situation. Yes. Hybrid is technology. You're implementing new things for an operating model that hits core to what happens in your environment, whether it's software development, application awareness, network automation. So they're two different things, but they're kind of related, right? You nail hybrid with public, private, or public on-premise, then then multi-cloud can be dealt with. This seems to be where you guys are fitting in, right? Because you can do the hybrid public, then you connect, just that's the outcome of the software. You're spot on, right? It's, people use it, and sometimes it means the same, and sometimes it's really not. And it's really, hybrid cloud is really around, how can I extend my data center to a public cloud infrastructure, right? And that's more of a technology discussion. What do I need to do to make that happen? And then there's the multi-cloud discussions really around, how do I have consistent policy? Because I want to get to a situation where I don't have to worry. And so I can deploy those, I can describe as when to employ wherever I want it. And so you're right, there are two distinct things that need to happen. But I do, sorry, I do want to come back to your comment because I can't have the energy there. But to use this as a comment there, right? I mean, for half these application developers, they want to use tools like Terraform or Jenkins or... Ansible. Ansible or Splunk, all of them expect that they have an API and they expect actually a network API. What they all prefer to have is something that makes sense from an application construct perspective. And so that's why I was like, we have to put something in place to make that work, right? Was it they want all there that the application team could jump? Clearly not, but it's very clear. I mean, if I look, we are now about six years into this. If I look back, I think it really jolted the market and I think it got everybody moving in that direction. Yeah, and again, when we use the term application centric infrastructure, the whole purpose is it is conducive to deploy applications faster and manage applications better. That's why, right? Yeah. Okay. Wonder if you can dig in a little bit on the 400 gig. Tell us, you know, it's not just the next step function. We're trying to go more to the applications. You talk about these changes. So what do people need to understand about 400 gig? You know, what's the same? What does this unlock for me? Does this tie in with all my Wi-Fi 6 and 5G and everything else that I'm doing? And, you know, where and when is this most important? Well, let me take it maybe on 400 gig. A, it is available in shipping. A little sneak preview, we're actually going to have a customer who visits on Wednesday talking about what they do with 400 gig. Awesome. European data center as a French customer. 400 gig is really, it's an evolution. I mean, the way I look at it is, right? I mean, we had one gig, 10 gig, 40, 100, 400, right? It's literally an evolution. And we're always looking back and saying, well, do you really need that much bandwidth?  Where's it deployed today? Service to water. No doubt around it. It's all in the service to water space. It's primarily what we call a large scale cloud providers, but also the initial more technical disease are looking at this as evolution. How do we build 400 gig? The way we approach this is, this is not something special. Everything that we do today around ACI, everything we do around analytics has to work, right? Because customers are not building around speeds. Customers building around the operational model and whatever they have has to work. Just because I've got my 4X speed, that has to work the same way. And so 400 gig for us is really an extension of what we have and you will see it, it plugs in directly. So can I build a 400 gig ACI fabric? Yes you can, if you want to. With all that horsepower, obviously the next logical question comes to my mind is, okay, faster means more data, that means more potential fat finger mistakes on configuring, but if you automate that away, you need AI, right? So analytics and AI become interesting to that. What's, how does that fit into the customer journey when they go, okay, I'm getting going faster, from application aware, is there an analytics angle on this? Yes there is. No, you're absolutely right. I think based on the survey that we received, I mean US corporations are spending billions of dollars due to the IT outages, right? And most of those outages are human errors, right? 43% of the IT corporations are like spending 43% of their time in troubleshooting those outages. So I think it is very, very important as the data center are scaling, as the fabrics are getting automated, is that we equip them and provide them with the operation tools that can look smartly and proactively predict the network changes. They can assure that intent, the business intent has been translated into the network and proactively tell them that what are the problems they might run into. And when they run into the problems, also intelligently explain it to them that what is the correlation of the events that they see on their log files and what is the root cause of the problem, right? Yeah, you get a lot of data to work with there and experience, right? That's where the predictive analytics are. That's where it is. We let me expand a little bit. So I started off with saying we have this interesting extension of network insights, which is precisely that what you said just a library on. It's really an engine that takes telemetry data and we're going actually one step further than everybody else that I know. Everybody talks telemetry, but they talk about like software telemetry, network state. We actually can marry that up with actual traffic data at real time and we can give you that correlation. And now I'm getting actually where you are can see I kind of go into is, I can actually tell you what's the root cause between why do I have a congestion? Why do I have a problem and who is impacting who causes this? And I can actually predict the stuff. I can actually see this before it happens and now help a customer. I can look at other customer experience and I do really more as a machine learning. There's really an opportunity there. We just we're just scratching the surface if you ask me. I mean, there's so much upside. I mean, historically speaking, if you look at it, I mean, we had all the show commands in the world which can tell you that what they basically just look like, what the cam utilization is, but the correlation or the time-based correlation was missing in terms of when you, you're seeing some traffic degradation. You don't know whether it is drop, drop on what switch, which type of traffic is getting affected. Now we have the ability to, and using ML and AI techniques to correlate these events and give you a meaningful picture back to the customer. So you can pinpoint that, look, my video traffic on switch number five is getting affected because there is a drop in the output buffer because my link is congested. And that only works if you have quality data. It's not so much volume. I mean, the faster you go, Facebook and these guys prove it, you need to use machine learning, but if the data is good, then the outcomes are better on the predictive. You need a half the flow data. If you don't have it, that's nothing you can do. So. So scale is something we talk a lot about in the network. When I walk through the show floor, I'm starting to see some of the small scale because we're talking about edge computing, talked about shrinking down some of the things we're doing. When I hear telemetry data and AI and everything, I'm like, oh, here's some big opportunities that we need to attack at the edge. So what can you tell us about where your group is with some of the edge pieces? Well, interesting. I actually just came out of the a service provider opening session and I was together with a T-System actually on stage who is a customer of ours. He's using actually an ACI Fabric together with a SIVAM environment, which was like a virtual infrastructure management of X86. And they're using that in a telco cloud environment and clearly as an interconnect for networking services and it's going to move if you look at what they have in mind, moving in motor edge services. And that's an SP example that we have today deployed. But clearly, I think you're going to see this in enterprises, you see this pretty much in every customer base, right? Because what you do have is you have to straight off between do I want to get all my data back centrally or do I want to compute on the edge?  So not only is this actually where we sync the word, it's going, we actually have customers doing this. Yeah, I think it's a tell sign too. And I think just my final question for you guys is, and we've been saying, I've been saying this in the queue with the team is cloud helps everybody if hybrid kicks in, which we now has proven that hybrid cloud is a reality, that's what's going on. Technically, operationally, if you believe that, then you go the next level, which is cloudification value.  So, cloudification of networking, network as a service, way into cloud versus internal, SD-WAN, simplification of the edge, BGP, security and networking, common policy. It's a lot of technology, good be good. That's all sounds complex, but it's got to be simplified. What's your reaction to that cloudification? How does that kind of direction package itself out for the benefit of customers? Because there's a lot in there, right? SD-WAN alone. There's a lot in there. So, I look at this, it's in the end, it's a business. It's that simple, right? And what's going on? You want to generate more revenue, more services, which is where the profit and the money comes from. And you have to scale, which means more service individually, more scale, how many customers you're going to deliver to, how fast you can roll this out, without having your costs going up the same way. And that's really in the end what it comes down to, at least in my book. And then you make your decisions what you're going to pick, right? How do I figure out how to develop an app faster? Maybe you're going to go to cloud, to start cloud first to develop, and then you figure out, oh, I need to hit a certain scale, I going to start having it running here and running here, my deaf ear, my production here, I need to connect it. But all of these things in the end coming down, how do you roll out services faster without my cost actually going up, but preferably saying flat or going down? So business model. It's a business problem, it's what it is. Yeah, and I think from my perspective, I mean it is about us building tools for the customer so that we can simplify the whole process for them. So that these multi-cloud can be treated as another site. I mean, whether you are deploying it on-prem, whether you're deploying in AWS or Azure, these are different sites to you, and you don't have, as a user, have to worry about the nuances of AWS, versus Azure, versus IBM, versus on-prem. You should be able to say that this is my intent, deploy it in AWS, deploy it in on-prem, and be able to move the workloads accordingly. So if I extract what you guys just said is, if the hybrid and cloud equation operationally solves itself, technically with software and automation, all that stuff, the business issues, the app development, basically the app, drive everything. Absolutely. That's a good summary. That's the nirvana, I mean, how far, are we going to hear some of that on the show this week? Absolutely. I think you're going to hear some of these pieces, actually. How are we tying together, and this is like, how are we tying together business intelligence, with infrastructure intelligence? I think you're going to hear some of it. And the good trend for the data center business is that the edge can look like a data center too. The data center is everywhere the data is. That is our mantra, and so that means we're everywhere. Okay. Thanks for coming on theCUBE, really appreciate your insights. Great to have you on. Thanks for joining us. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Appreciate it, thank you. I'm Trevor Stu Miniman. This is theCUBE kicking off day one. Cisco Live 2020 in Barcelona, Spain. Thanks for watching.