Hi everybody it's Sam at Mixed Up Craft thank you for watching my tutorial today I'm going to be showing you how to make this really nice gift bag which is made from acetate now I'm trying not to move it too much so that it catches the glare of my lights but you should be able to make it out there it's really really nice the idea is you would fill this with tissue paper or a present wrapped in a similar colour or designed to the papers that you have used and I just think it's really really fun also it's a really nice keepsake I think afterwards you know there's no reason why you can't keep that displayed or even if you're into making mini albums or any kind of more paper crafting gifts that would look really nice to keep it in here you imagine a mini album and that's actually where you keep it I think that would look really nice so lots of ideas for this one it's using the fairy towels collection by dovecraft and this here is the decoupage so I'll be showing you that in a moment but it's the decoupage paper pack really really nice and this one just says just for you I've used these in my own butterflies these are just the acetate 3d ones but I'll be showing some other ones with you as well and there's the back with the handles I've just put the little flatback pearls which are also part of the collection and you can see inside I've finished it off there as well with matching papers and yeah I really like it I think it's lovely so for this one so lots of plastic lots of glare in this tutorial sorry I'm going to use the blue butterflies this time and these are from the collection because I think these are going to match well with the papers I'm also using one of these bows they're the flatback pearls again all of this collection is on my amazon storefront which will be linked in my blog and I'll link it below as well these are the papers so that's the fairy tale paper pack and then this is the wonderful decoupage pad now I do love the decoupage pads that they do loads of gorgeous little layouts there that you put together and that's the one that I've used for that bag and then the one I'm using today is this one I've already made it up and it is where is she and it's this one here at the back really lovely one with the fairy there so that's what I've done this is the acetate I'm using this is the 12 by 12 acetate by do crafts you get a pack of 10 I got this for a bargain I think it was £4 and 9p from a place called trago mills which is near where I live in the southwest so I know that that's not going to be somewhere unless you live down here that you would be able to get it from but I know this is stocked online so I will look for as many people selling it as possible I'm just trying to see what the microns are or the weight of it but it doesn't say just as 12 by 12 acetate but it's really strong lovely lovely stuff so that's what I'm using today so like I said I've gone ahead and prepared my top a piece here this time I'm going to have this as a gift tag actually hanging from the bag whereas that one there I just stuck it onto the center so it's entirely up to you how you want to do it but I have already gone ahead and done that one I've got a template just because I'm working with acetate I can show you what I'm doing on this white piece here and then I've gone ahead and already prepared all of those pieces which I will talk you through along with the handles as we get to it so yeah you can see there's a great big glare but I've got here two pieces of acetate so imagine these are now my two pieces of acetate that is a different size there you want two pieces that are 9 by 12 okay so two pieces of 9 by 12 acetate and along the 9 inch side you're going to score it half an inch ignore this because this isn't quite the size of the acetate it's just so you can see but you're going to score along the nine inch side you're going to score at half an inch and at eight and a half inches okay so those will be the score lines which you can just about make out on this piece of acetate I move that there can you see there's my half inch and there's my eight and a half inch okay then you're going to rotate it along the 12 inch side so this is it on top here and you're going to score at four inches okay so I know that's different but it was purely just to see how your score line should look but you're going to score at four inches and again you can just make out that score line there okay so you want two pieces that are like that then you want to burnish all of the score lines so acetate's a little bit different you have to kind of really work it first of all so I'm just going along there and just carefully folding down like I said this is really thick stuff it's lovely it's really nice to work with and then I'm just going to do the other piece okay so those are my two pieces of folded and burnished acetate next we want to create these side pieces so these bits oh these ones here and all you need is two pieces of five by eight okay so these are from that paper pack so it's the full width because it's an eight by eight paper pack and then I've just cut it down there to five inches in width now on both of them you want to score along the five inch side you're going to score at half an inch and four and a half okay so half an inch and four and a half okay and that is now all the scoring so I'm going to get rid of the scoreboard and you just want to burnish those two sides and then you want to add some double sided tape now because we're working with acetate I find it best to use the red tape so I've got this roll here and I'm just going to run kind of making sure I stick to the outer as close to the outer edge as possible I'm just going to run one up there and again one down this side and do that on both pieces okay and as always just go over and you will see if there's any white underneath it will turn that darker red color and that means you've got all the air bubbles out okay so they're ready to stick down then we've got this piece here which is going to stick on the inside here and this piece measures this piece measures seven and seven eighths of an inch by three and seven eighths of an inch so it's just shy of the base size just so you've got a little bit of a border and it doesn't kind of buckle or catch on any other side so I'm just going to run again because you're sticking this to acetate I'm just going to run this red tape and also do two of this size so you've got one to do underneath just in case anybody does look underneath they're not going to see any just you know double sided sticky tape they'll see some nice paper you might just want to use plain white okay so I've actually just changed this up and realized I thought about this when I made the other bag up you actually want one piece of acetate which is going to be eight by 12 so one piece will be eight by 12 okay the other piece will be the normal size so nine by 12 all right with the eight by 12 along the 12 inch side you're just scoring at four inches that's all you need to do on this piece you can see they're folded in half that's all you will have so you'll have no side pieces or nothing okay then on the other piece it will look like this so this template so it will have those side pieces you will score along the nine inch side you'll score a half an inch and eight and a half just as I showed you at the beginning but instead you want to remove these two long ones and just keep the bottom small ones here so you can see I've still got mine on here I will put a little notification in at the beginning of the tutorial um because I've done it this way originally and then I changed it whilst making it and I just when I prepared I totally forgot that I had taken this out and decided to do it different way so I'm just removing and you'll do this anyway on this same piece so this bit hasn't changed you're just removing all of these longer tabs and you're just keeping the short ones at the bottom and the other one like I said will not have it at all and that would be a slightly different size so just bring the scoreboard in just so you can see so you've got this piece now it's just got those tabs on the bottom here okay you can just see them there and like I said the other one will be just like this but without these side pieces so sorry there for that bit of confusion but yeah one will be eight by twelve one will be nine by twelve with a nine by twelve you do the scoring just as I said okay then all you need to do with the acetate is on the one where you've got those tabs is you want to add some of your double sided tape you can see there I've just taken a little wedge off of the sides as well keep it nice and neat because you will slightly see these pieces and that's why I changed it up so that you wouldn't see hardly any acetate okay and again just make sure you get all the air bubbles out so what's going to happen is this one without any tabs on is going to stick right over the top of this bottom piece here okay so I put all the tape on that in a minute and then these tabs are going to come up on the side okay and then we're going to stick our paper around here so first of all so you can start to see this a bit better I'm going to add double sided tape just to the bottom base of that piece of acetate that has no tabs on it it's just that plain piece with that one score line so I'm just going to add my tape around the four sides and then some just through the middle and this is just a nice gift bag size anyway so even if you don't have acetate you can still make this gift bag you just imagine all these pieces here are just different coloured papers okay so now you can see that acetate better there's that half inch so that's that four inch score line that's the 12 inch side that's the four inch score line I've just folded it and on the underneath part I've added all that tape so now I'm going to just take off all of the backing okay and then bring in this piece with those side tabs and then very carefully make sure you've got no hair any dust any bits underneath this I mean it's going to be covered anyway but when you're working with acetate you want to make sure there's nothing that might get caught underneath especially if you don't want it to be seen and then just lie that down so should all marry up and then make sure you get all those air bubbles out okay so you should only be able to see it slightly there so now you'll see we've got the two front and back now two sides to our gift bag then grab this piece here your pattern paper and that's going to sit over the top inside and put your base on as well so I'm just going to stick that down and again just kind of hover it over because it's slightly smaller but it should all sit in there nicely and again make sure it's all stuck down then grab one of your patterned papers obviously make sure it's the right way up and just work with one side at a time so first of all I'm just going to take off this backing here and you're basically going to stick this so this score line where you've folded there you want the edge of your acetate to line to sit perfectly in that so try and sit it there first of all I'm going to bring that piece in so it doesn't obstruct it and I can kind of line that up this should run flush with the bottom of your you know your table so just run that along there and then you should be able to just slowly line up everything else now if it does come up a little bit higher you can trim that afterwards so there we go pop that on its side and just again and then take the backing off of your little side piece here bring this round and then stick it down so just fold that up pop it on its side and again make sure all the air bubbles are gone because this is the only one you're going to see but it should become quite translucent anyway and you won't really see it okay so that's that one then take the backing off of this side and again bring up this acetate make sure it lines up with the score line just fold that around put it on its side and do the same like so and there is one side of your gift bag so hopefully that's made sense so again with this one make sure you got your pattern up the right way start with one bit at a time it's so much easier to control fold that bottom one in on itself make sure the base is flush with your table and then just go in and then again with the front one there you have it kind of push in the sides like that just so you get that kind of bag effect at the front but that is the same as that one so you can see now how they come together so that's really really easy and now it's just down to decorating which is all the fun part so I've got two handles here which are three quarters of a by 12 I think or was it 11 might be an a4 length actually yeah it's 11 and just under 11 three quarters or 11 inches will be fine so whatever your kind of default a4 paper is and then I'm just going to run just kind of cover I guess an inch at each end with again the same red tape because if you're using wet glue it just it won't stick to this unless it's a special glue that will obviously adhere to plastic so I'm just going to stick on that one and again this end sorry I was out of shot there just a one inch from the bottom there or thereabouts again it doesn't matter too much you can see there what I've done just curve the card stock slightly and then you're going to stick it obviously that heart that one inch down just making sure it's nice and equal so I'm going to do one side first so that one's about there and I'm just going to measure so I've come in two inches so bring this one over two inches so I'm going to be sticking it just there okay and then I'm going to be sticking these over the front and then I've got plain ones to go on the inside there so it looks nice from both sides you can see on this one here and you can see it inside there where the plain one is these measure I think it's my one inch here my one inch punch so you need two four six eight of the one inch punches and then I've got half inch punches on the outer ones just inside here and you would need just four of those and then these are the flat back pearls which match the collection I put some tape on the back there and I'm going to go get that all stuck down okay so there you have just a really nice plain gift bag there you go without the glare isn't that cool so like I said you can stick this you can see how nice that will look in the middle but I'm going to just try this one just hanging so let's have a little look so I'm just going to okay so just about there I'm going to just snip off the top and then just have that hanging down like so and then you just got a really nice gift tag there and I think that looks lovely I've got red backing tape stuck to everything but there you can just about see it sorry it's been really hard for me this one because I just I hate that glare in the pictures and I know it can be quite off-putting when you're watching so yeah so that's the one with it just hanging down plain and then that's the one there with it stuck on the front and you've got the butterflies oh that was what I wanted to do was add my butterflies so these ones here so I'm just going to take off the top one I think I'm just going to have the one and I'm going to add a little bit of red tape because I've just removed it from its actual sticker so as you know or if you haven't seen I prefer them when they are on their own rather than with the holographic backing and then I'm going to stick this one kind of flying off at the top there so you've got that hanging down and then you've got that one flying off up there and they just again because they're acetate and plastic and on this it just looks really nice and it's quite a fun texture and it's something a bit different so you imagine that filled with a nice pink tissue paper with a lovely gift inside or like I said a little mini album or something like that I think that will look really nice so there you go two really fun gift bags they measure four by I think it was eight wasn't it four by eight so again really nice size as well and yeah just unusual using the acetate so I will share the links to that acetate and all the links to all the other papers and all the accessories as well that I've used along with the dimensions because I know I changed the acetate sizes through the tutorial but hopefully it made sense and I'll also put the templates up as well so there you have it hope you've enjoyed it please hit the thumbs up if you have and subscribe to my channel so you get to see more thanks for watching bye


On the breakfast, the new Nigerian People's Party NNPP considers option for running mate and Labour Party. Would there be a third force ahead of the 2023 elections? Also on the breakfast, ahead of the 2022 Oshun State Governorship election slated for July 16, the independent National Electoral Commission INEC will commence conduct of mock accreditation exercise for electorate today. And don't forget, we'll also be looking through today's newspaper analysing the biggest stories of the day. It's a beautiful Monday morning, welcome right here to the breakfast in Plasti, Africa. I am Emessy Boko. As always, we start off with our top trending conversation and fast on the list is a very unfortunate, very saddening story. Please rescue, you know, 30 children from a basement in Ondol State and a lot has just been happening in Ondol State right there. Now there are reports of scores of children who were found on the ground of the apartment and church in Ondol State. It was gathered that these children were kidnapped, yes, and kept on the ground in the church apartment. And for those who actually believe, you know, in the scriptures and in the Bible, you also, it's important to note that test all spirits. You do not have to believe all because when we think that a truck should be the safest place. But it's very commendable of the Nigerian police for us in Ondol State. It's very commendable. I mean, what they have done, we applaud them and we say thank you for, you know, swinging into action and rescuing the specimens who were kidnapped. And we're hoping that, you know, tour investigation will be done. Now, according to reports saying that over 30 were rescued and they also arrested the pastor and members of the church. And the children were seen in the patrol vehicle of the police who took them to the police station. So it's commendable that this life has been saved. I mean, no one can actually tell what it is. What's important, like I mentioned, it's important that you test all spirits and you do not believe, you know, all spirit. Now, that's what you have right there. But another one, let's move away from that quickly. But the most important thing and, you know, the reaction's been coming through is that Nigerians are asking that there be a thorough investigation to what exactly happened. I mean, how do you explain the fact that you have children kidnapped according to purportedly kidnapped, you know, and they're found on the basement, on the ground part of the church. So it's a good thing, like I rightly mentioned, but we think it's a cross and we're hoping that the men of the Nigerian police force will swing into action and then would get the full details and just as should be meted in case you have a culprit. But away from that is that 14 babies died in an incubator. That's according to the particular report. So it's a two side to the story. Now, if you're very swift with Twitter, you'll find out those reports that doctors suspended surgery procedures in the University of Port Harcotte Teaching Hospital due to power outages, you know, however you want to describe it. And so there were reports that not less than 14 babies had died at the incubator of the University of Port Harcotte Teaching Hospital due to that power situation. And now some patients at the hospital said that the surgery procedure was suspended. You have someone who spoke and talked about, you know, the fact that people died 14 kids and one of them were from a couple who have been waiting and been very expectant of having a child. But unfortunately, that didn't really happen until the unfortunate incident happened, right? These kids were there that died. But there's also another report on the other hand where the University of Port Harcotte Teaching Hospital has denied the viral claim on social media that 14 babies died in a special care baby unit due to power outage. That it was also put out on a tweet, you know, and they're saying that yes, the regular power supply at the hospital was also disrupted surgery procedures. But they are saying, you know, the report saying that the babies 14 of them died is not really true. So the question is, whose report do we believe that's the question? Because if you look at the Nigerian health sector, I mean, it's been very worrisome for a lot of people. There's a lot that's been going on with the health sector. You want to look at the budget. First, there was a declaration, a Buja declaration where you were supposed to have like 15 percent of the budget allocated to the health sector. Now, and this is supposed to be for, you know, countries within this union, the African Union. But so far, Nigeria has not been compliant with that declaration. As you look at the budgetary allocation that's been made in different times, you find out that we haven't really met the 15 percent budgetary or budget allocation or that declaration that was made. So the reaction has been that the government should be sued, sued in hospitals, sued the government, sued everybody. But who should we be suing? That's the question, right? Don't also forget that the University of Potahakot Teaching Hospital is under the purview of the ministry, federal ministry of health. So it's within the purview of the federal government. It is a tertiary institution of when you look at the cadre of health institutions.  And that's the tertiary. But is it really true that, whether or not the babies actually die, but is it really true that there's also issues of power outage in our hospitals across different parts of the country? Do we have constant power supply? What is the capacity, what is the generation capacity when we talk about the national grid? How much are we generating? What is the entire population? What other sectors do we have? Should we begin to blame the distribution company? And some other persons are saying that the distribution company should make it a priority to, you know, distribute, I mean, as importance, in the order of importance, in the scale of preference, the health sector should be top on the list. But what will, what can the distribution company do when you have about 3,522 megawatts generated for a population of over 211 million people? How do you even manage that?  It's the question, the begs for a lot of answer. If we solve the energy crisis in the country, will we be grappling with whether or not, you know, power went out, did the babies really die? Are people really dying because of lack of power supply in the hospitals, in our hospitals? Should hospitals have generators? Should they have, you know, solar system inverters? What should these hospitals do? Are these hospitals on the management of government? There's a lot to talk about, really. But it's a good thing to hear that, you know, on the other hand, you also have the hospitals saying, hey, yes, there were power outage, I mean, there was power outage situation, but which disrupt, you know, these surgery procedures, but 14 babies did not really die because they were really not in the incubator. And on the other hand, you have reports saying that there were babies in the incubator. So the question is, who should we believe? But even if that's not the case, I mean, if it's something to go by, those children did not die. Is there a challenge of power supply in our health sector? Do hospitals have constant power supply? Has it truncated the operation? Have we lost lives? And who should answer? Where is the minister for health? Or where's the minister in charge of the health ministry? How much was allocated for the budget in 2022? All right, that's it. Also on top trending, we quickly move away from that. There's also another interesting conversation where you have a video that was actually viral, and it talks about a pastor, a very popular pastor, of the Redeemed Christian Church of God, Adeboie, talking about him not asking Christians to use guns, but we quickly look at this track before we come back and discuss further. I know whatever I say, some people may want to twist it, but I've searched the Bible from cover to cover, and there's no way, nowhere in the Bible where God said a child of God cannot defend himself. If you find the place, let me know. He said, if they slap you on the right cheek, turn the left. Abbe, he said that one. If they now slap the left, what did he say? When God is silent, do you know the meaning of that? He simply means over to you. Every enemy of the church, as long as my father is on his throne, as long as Jesus lives, as long as his name is consuming fire, if they don't repent, the fire of God will consume them. I'm not talking to everybody, I'm only talking to my children. Well, that's the video of Pastor Adeboie talking about defense, and that's a lot too. I listened to that video, and of course the message was actually put out as well as the thoughts of it, but looking at Twitter and looking at all the reaction, it's been quoted that he's asked Nigerians to carry guns, or ask people to carry guns for self-defense. I mean, it was more of a, what's that called? It's a part of speech. You talk about a question where a question is put out to you, and you're not expected to answer, but of course you're supposed to think about it, and that's what it is. The issue of self-defense, the issue of aming oneself against an attack. Now, in recent times, we've seen prominent persons who talk about taking up arms. For instance, the Zamora State Government has gone very far, has made several efforts in asking that people should take out arms and defend themselves in the case of an attack. But let's also not forget the fact that generally, should we even get to this point where we have anything close to this kind of conversation, if the Government of the day lives up to her responsibility, which is also in the Constitution as so much reflected. Well, look in at Section 14, Subsection 2 of the 1999 Constitution, that placed the responsibility on the shoulders of Government to safeguard the lives of her citizens and ensure that their properties are protected as well. But if the Government has lived up to her expectations, should Nigerians, should anyone even consider the issue of having bearing arms or defending themselves in any situation whatsoever? But in this particular case, if you listen to that conversation, it was just more of a rhetoric question that was put out. More like that conversation where you think about it in your mind, and that's what it was, but we've seen several thoughts that's been put out on different social media platforms. But the pastor in court has also come out to defend himself saying that I did not ask Christians to buy guns. He's saying that he's gone through the Scripture, and if you're a Christian, if you believe in the Bible, there's nowhere that the Bible says you shouldn't defend yourself. But also on the other hand, you want to ask yourself, how do you defend yourself if you are faced with a threat? Do you need a gun? What do you need to defend yourself? Are there other instruments that can be used to defend oneself? That's it on the top trending this morning. We'll take a break and when we return, it'll be time for us to go through the front pages of our National Dailies. Stay with us.


The IEA is back at COP again, and once more, we are making it clear. The nuclear science and technology can make a significant difference in the battle against climate change. In particular, I'm looking forward to the statement we will be making, together with more than 40 nations, about the indispensable role of nuclear power to help countries transition to net zero. And in adaptation, our IEA experts are here to show how nuclear can help in so many ways, whether it's developing drought-harding crops or analyzing melting glaciers. Let me welcome you to our IEA pavilion and invite you to learn more to spread the message, to be pro-environment is to be pro-nuclear.


The saptarishis came fully enlightened. Shiva said, you move on. Before the left, they expressed their anguish. Now if we go away, probably we will never set our eyes upon you physically. How can we have you when we want you? So he thought them a simple process, which today lives as saptarishi arathi. I was a witness to this. They just built stacks and stacks of energy just like that. It's like a technology. It is a technology. And what they build up in this temple is phenomenal, phenomenal. I've never seen anything like that anywhere. The shift from Dakshinayan to Uttarayan takes place each year during the winter solstice. To mark this spiritually significant occasion, seven priests from Kashi Vishwanath Temple will conduct a special saptarishi arathi.


application that I submitted and shared with Oleg and you and other members of Mantras for Google Citizen of Docs team. I also was trying to first of all understand following discussion how our terminology is related to URLs. Because this is not, well, completely clear to me. For instance, if, well, in case of adult complex term for master, let's say, Jenkins server, how URLs will be dependent on this. This is something that, well, I don't understand and would be interested in understanding more. Can you describe a little further the places where you have a question? So I'm trying to understand, so do you mean URLs as in how do we refer to a URL textually? Tell me more. Well, it was part of our threaded discussion in Git channel for documentation when we discussed about different terms for master, for instance, and there was proposals to use something like Jenkins server, for instance, as a replacement for the master term. And there was not objection, but somebody mentioned it would mean that there will be complex term in URL, like Jenkins server, and this complexity is not easily implemented in the current infrastructure, I guess. And this is something that I don't quite understand and it would be interesting to understand how terminology is mapped and why it is mapped to URLs. OK. Yeah, so in that particular case, I think the concern was related to the ambiguity of the word server because oftentimes we refer to server as the computer hosting the process, or we might use server as the Kubernetes cluster hosting the process, or we might use server as the Docker container hosting the process. And those are relatively common uses of the word server in that case, and therefore saying Jenkins server becomes the way, and I think the respondent there was James Nord, the way he described it was, hey, that's quite ambiguous. It's not clear what this thing is, and so now we have to put a lot of extra words into every time we use the phrase Jenkins server because we would say Jenkins server and by this we mean the Jenkins process. Or Jenkins server and by this we mean the host name of the computer hosting the Jenkins process. Or Jenkins server and by this we mean the Java executable that's running. Therefore, his concern was, hey, that's just not precise enough. And what I think is a cool and a very positive idea from the terminology discussions is what if part of this made our terminology more exact, more precise? So Daniel Beck noted that if instead we consider two different contexts, one context is the thing that we called master, which was the Jenkins process executing somewhere. And the other thing that we called master is the node that is automatically allocated by Jenkins on the root server. So the root node is called the master node. And Daniel's note was, those are two different concepts. And we don't want people using the master node to execute much. We guide them specifically, do work on agents, not on the master node. But when we need to refer to the top level process, we call it the master process. Or we just call it the master. And so in both cases, it's a good chance to drop the word master and replace it with something more precise. Thanks for clarifying. And I would vote for more precision and terminology. I've got a few more candidates. I think this is a good trend. Yeah, and it's clarity. Clarity is helped, right? Particularly for, for instance, for non-native speakers. When we use ambiguous terms, it makes it even more difficult for someone to comprehend as they're crossing the language barrier, as they're making the transformation from English to whatever their common language is. So the Chinese, I don't know how they deal with some of our phrasal verbs. I don't know how they ever handle the fact that we speak so freely. We use the word get so often with an extra word over, under, get by, get through. And each one of those is an entirely different verb. So yes, there are lots of places like that where we, we can be much more precise and benefit not just, not just the local language people, but everybody with more precision. Did that answer it, Vlad? Is that? Yes, absolutely. Okay.  And I think one of the, one of the goals had been to encourage people to share it publicly so others can see it. Was it intentional that you only shared it with a narrow set of people rather than making it publicly visible or is it publicly visible? Well, I, no, I don't think it is publicly visible. I followed advice from a leg to dump it into Google Docs versus forms. And so now it is in Google Docs and I just shared with them like, yeah, with the team which is mentioned on our side as mentors and org admins. Great, I guess you included also. But just main intention is to get some reviews, comments and just suggestions to start discussion on this or to continue. Excellent. I also, well, wanted to mention in case this forum is appropriate, couple of weeks ago during similar office hours you introduced the spreadsheet which you put up together some time ago about different feedbacks to our issues in documentation. And there was long list of different issues. And I put together the two to transfer these issues from the spreadsheet into the GitHub, which is using not API, but Hub, something that you shared also. Okay. So, well, and I'm just trying to test this and not sure if it doesn't make sense to continue working on this. Is it advisable to create the tool which will batch create the entire list of issues? I would avoid batch creating them because many of those feedback items have long ago been addressed. So if you batch create an issue for something that was reported a year ago on one of the tutorials as an example, we saw that feedback, we acted on the feedback, we corrected the problem. So now if you raise an issue in GitHub with a tool, with a script, we will just go in and fairly quickly then close it out and be annoyed that you raised an issue that was already resolved. Now, if the tool helps someone to say, hey, I've looked at this and I want to submit this particular row as an issue, that might be quite interesting then. And good evening. And there is another problem with that sheet because some users use a bad vocabulary, let's say, it's not so beautiful. Beautiful is a very polite term for it. Some of the comments are laced with profanity and I would close them instantaneously if I saw them in a GitHub issue. Because as much as we talked earlier about master slave terminology, potentially offending others, I'm personally quite offended by certain English words that are used commonly in places where I find them disconcerting, right? So profanity is not acceptable to me and therefore I get involved very quickly on things like that. Maybe I overreact, but it's one of those where I get offended by profane language in my tongue. So yes, definitely if someone drops the F-bomb in a, or uses a profane word in a bug report, I will take all sorts of steps to fix that, including asking to ban them, those sorts of things. It's just, it's not acceptable. The community is very gracious in terms of its style of communication, its conversation and the contributor covenant actually covers that kind of thing. So we can't expect each other to be politely phrased. Sometimes you're right, Jonathan, the feedback comments are not politely phrased. They are not, they're filled with things that they shouldn't be. And so we intentionally discard or change them. Now, Jonathan, I believe you had done some processing of that sheet as well. Did you want to share some of the things that you had learned as you had gone through it? Because it's good that both of you have been looking at that. That's a great way for us to find out what users are thinking. Do you want to share more about what you had learned? Yeah, yesterday I shared my proposal at the group, our groups too. And there I put the links to a dashboard that I import all feedbacks. So in that dashboard, we can see by category, each one unhelpful to help me in media evaluations. And in the most of case, the user are asking for samples, yeah, video samples. And for more elaborate explanations about how to use the comments or to resolve some ambiguous terms, like you said, about the server one. And in a big picture, it's about that. More samples, videos and tutorials to help them to understand how the feature works. Thank you, would you be willing to share? Do you have the, is the dashboard available that you'd be willing to share the screen and show it to us? I think it'd be elegant to have a tour of it. I'm gonna let you share. Oh, let me, I might have that open just a moment. Because I thought it was an interesting idea, but the concept that we might get, for instance, I think you had done some data analysis to see what portion of the feedback was not helpful versus somewhat helpful versus, and I forget even the terms, but there's data there that I think would be good for us to see and consider. Yeah, it's very helpful seeing all in dashboard because you can use filters to show exactly how to see, just a moment, it's open. And just to push the button, share screen. Mm-hmm, right. And it should, if you've got a multi-screen environment, it will ask you which of your screens you want to share and you have to use a thumbnail to choose which one. Yeah, so I see the, yep, great. You're seeing? Yes. Okay, so can you describe the general areas of the page for us and some of the things that you learned while you were doing the analysis? Okay, the first one here, it's a account about the page that received more requests for help or more feedbacks, okay? So pipeline build steps, it's the winner with 18.6. So 10% of the requests were for one page and if you look at the top. No, it's not about the percent. It's about the units. We have all these requests. Yeah, you're right, it's percent. It's percent. Well, I was just fascinated to see that if we take just the top five that you've listed there, we've already covered about 20% of the feedback on five pages. So, great. There is another point that you, it's about the one kind of feedbacks from users. They not like to long page with the commentations. They prefer small sections, okay? Because we don't have a search bar. So it's not so easy find things in long texts. Yeah. And one of my proposal is find a solution for a search bar in a week to help them. So the most you can click here to apply a filter about the not that helpful questions. It's our account here. And every change here when I selected this option, you can see here to a, just a point. So here we can see all the suggestions, requests, provide the full options for each field, provide which kind of returns and move on. Here we can see a timeframe. Which a period receive more and low requests. So our more activity, it was this month, April 19, and that space here, and you can, for example, click on them just a moment. You can see which requests. So I saw it on the step gauge, indicate it supports H2P or SSH, that's it. You need to waste some time here to read each evaluation about the users. You can use the filter to get the most important one. So you can click here, here, here and here and get the top five requests for users and work on it. So for example, .NET sample, all the sample here, it's the feedback asking. Maybe we can find the bad words here. Yeah, probably will and that's, yeah. Okay, so it's a open one. I put the password and user to, you can access the desk board and use for you. You won't use, have no problem. It's open. Excellent. Thank you. Very nice. Thanks very much, Jonathan. Yeah, that's quite, so it looks like there are some high-frequency areas and they seem to be, okay, pipeline build steps. So pipeline, three of the tours. And that truly amazes me because three of those, I'll have to double-check, but I think those three tours are now all functioning, but they were still high feedback points. And then the get plug in, okay, I've tried my very best to fix that one. So that was one that was laced with profanity. Absolutely, there are lots of things where people said, I want this, give me examples, give me, and so I wrote examples and they've been posted and they're now part of the documentation. Now, actually for my benefit, could you zoom in on git? I'd like to see if, look at the timeline on feedback on the git page. Feedback on the git page, just a moment. Git page, there's one? That one, exactly. So when you click that row and hit the green check mark, that narrows the result? Yeah, yeah, narrows the results. Okay, and so what that shows is the rate of feedback over time has decreased compared to, so we were getting, it looks like, two or three per time period for quite a while and for the last four or five months, we've been down to one, except for one time when we got two. Okay. Exactly, and our AVG, it's about two feedbacks per month. Okay, so now can we, and you can see the individual suggestions. Yeah, it's here, you can just open here. Now we have two fields about the suggestions. It's all here. More descriptions, it's like the same. Excellent, okay, great, thank you. Yeah. I have a generic question. Oh, go ahead, Hunter. Another important point, and I believe that our docs, it's right for more experienced users. So we need to write in a new way to embrace the new ones. For example, it's here, it's a exactly example, good example. For a beginner would be good if they're at least small samples. Maybe because we have a lot of experience in our career, it's easy to read and understand the topics or the main concept about the genks, okay? Maybe we need more beginner samples, maybe. Good, thank you.  Yes, I'm just curious that these, I remember when we put in the ability to add feedback, do we ever respond to those so that if there's a comment in there and then we go in and change the stuff, do we make a comment that we think this has been fixed? We really can't because the sheet is right only. So the process that maintains the sheet appends to the sheet and no one but that process has permission to write to the sheet. And we intentionally do not show the contents of the sheet to anyone because the content is completely unfiltered and has no safeguards on it, right? Okay, so anybody posting a comment does not know what other comments have been posted. That is correct, right? There is no hint, there's no maintained public display of the contents, comments for a specific page other than in this sheet. So the sheet itself, and there's no, and I think that's a healthy thing because I don't really want Jenkins.io to become Stack Overflow of the site or a moderated chat system. That's not what it's for, it's a documentation side. Maybe it's something in the back end though, it would be as I can see like five years from now, the comments that were received and are no longer relevant are gonna show on the same list. We don't have a way to fill their out with these even internally. That is correct, but I think long-term and it's already, the transition has already actively started. Long-term we will switch more and more people to give us GitHub issue reports for their problems or the page rather than submitting to this feedback. So, Jonathan, I'm gonna stop your sharing and I'm gonna bring up the share of mine so that we can look at what one of the pages look like and see the different ways that people can give feedback. Okay, so do you see my screen that has a pretty background, the Jenkins page? Yes. Okay, great. All right, so on these pages now, so let's go to, let's see, it was pipeline build steps, wasn't it? Was the high noise page. So let's see if we can find pipeline build steps. There it is, and oh, it's glory. Oh, where is it? Let's see, so. It's here, smart. Yeah, exactly, build steps. Actually, and it may be that I have to go here. Oh, under resources, there's a link to steps reference, I think that's it. Down at the bottom on the left. Oh, there we go. Yes, is this, well, but Jonathan, could you look it up again for us? Tell us what the page was that was the most, it wasn't steps, I think it was. It was pipeline build steps. Build, okay, so pipeline build. So let's, okay, so I am showing clearly that. I will put the link to you in our chat. Oh, that'd be great. Thank you. Just a moment. Here is the most requested one. And it should be in my chat system, which I can find shortly. Where is the chat? At the bottom, it has a high icon, middle bottom. Yes, I think I have to stop share so I can find it there. Okay, all right, there we go. Now I got it. Oh, yes, yes, okay. And this one is a good one to give feedback on.  So share screen, share this screen, go. Okay, so you should see pipeline build step. Yeah. Okay, so, and the elegant and really positive thing here is that this page is assembled from a whole set of, from the entire pool of Jenkins plugins that contribute to this step. So what we see is things like list get branches, which is completely unrelated to matrix combination parameter value. And therefore, yes, it's this thing is complicated and dependent on each plugin having good documentation that then gets contributed to this thing. So this is a step which generates a build. And now each plugin that can contribute to it has some piece. So for instance, the clear case UCM baseline parameter value has that or Boolean param. Yeah, so I can understand why their feedback on this page would be, but now what are the? The wiener. Yeah, yes. Now what are the things, the places where they can give feedback to us was this page helpful that opens up the form that takes them to the data entry form for the spreadsheet. So this will put data into the spreadsheet and this should open the sheet to show me, okay, here it is. Yeah, it does. Now, what we've got instead on pages that are not generated like on, let's go to installing Jenkins. So on installing Jenkins at the very bottom, you'll see was this page helpful, but we've also got improve this page and report a problem. And if I click improve this page, it will take me to GitHub and I'm right in the source code of the page. So that's, if you wanna help us improve the page, here's your chance. Now, if I instead click the report a problem, it takes me into GitHub issues and now I'm ready to report a bug. The reason that the build step does not do that is because in order to fix a bug in the build step page, in order to fix a bug in actually any one of these. So, but in the build step page, we had it here. In order to fix a problem in these descriptions, I have to go to the plugin that's contributing each of these sections. So if I wanted to fix package choice parameter value, I have to find the plugin that contributes this, this description and then take you into the missing help file that would tell you what that is. That was a long description for the three feedback techniques. Sorry about that. Okay, stop here. I wonder if at the very least this page should have a brief, it's sort of implied that up at the very top, but to say that this is generated from these. Well, but see, my worry is I don't, I wouldn't want to distract the reader from the this is generated rather the thing that does the generating, it would be best if it could create links somehow inside the page that say, go here to fix this page. So here's the link to the plugin on the plugin site. And so this tells me which plugin repositories contributing the root description. It's just contributing this, but the tooling iterates over all the plugins and gathers from them, the places where they contribute things like deploy metadata parameter value. Right, but this is really a page for experts. And up at the top of the page, it does reference them to the other steps, reference page, the first one you had, but that's really buried. I have to really go looking for that. And I'm thinking that a lot of these that want more examples and stuff, it's like you shouldn't be on this page, you should be on that page. All right, right. I see your point is, is that if we could somehow guide them, you're in too deep. You are reading the reference page for a minute technical detail. What you need is this other thing. Good, yeah. And the information is there, it just doesn't pop out at me. Right, right. Ballad, yeah, good point. And to solve this problem, I like to learn with others projects. So for example, we have another groups that build the commentations that is useful for beginners and you are dipping dive into, dipping into and the big more complex, but just if you want, we not start complex. We not start with complex samples. For example, you see, you saw the website, hugefi.com, you can open it. Sorry, what was the website again? It was? I will put in the shot. Oh, good. All right. Just a moment. It's a good sample of the docs. Well, Jonathan is looking for this. Yeah. Okay, it is. Okay, so... Click and at the button, get started. Okay, get started. Okay. Uh-huh. So it's the documentation page that you can use the search bar. For example, I put a grid, grid, you'll see the suggestions. Click on the first one, please. No, we start with the search bar. Please. No, we start to show the basic sample for the more complex one. So, have some links and history about them. And more, you can see, preview step by step. It's a modern way to show recommendations. You can show to the user a playground section. Oh, you say there is a... There's a playground section on this page. Yeah, yeah. Oh. Yeah. So for example, change the options. You can, it's responsible. Yeah, the dropbox, okay. It's just a sample. So for example, you can create small labs, use Docker and guide the user to use our containers to try our suggestions. Interesting idea. Yeah. Yeah, you put our image, build the images in Docker Hub and point the user to there. They Docker pool the images and use our labs, just for learn how things work. Yeah, that looks very interesting. I like ideas like that. That sounds cool. Yeah, you may not reinvent the real, it's a common term. We can learn with others. So, and is this site a static site or is this being generated dynamically? Is it possible to do this kind of thing in a static site? Yeah, it's a stacked site. Use a NUXJS or if you were going to active NUXJS and you can use GIFs or another kind of interaction with the user. But it takes time to develop it. They develop it. Yeah, this looks like a really cool idea. So it looks like we can see their source code on GitHub. Yeah. And you can use the Github and you can use the Github and go back to page, please. Come, go. And the first icon. That one? Yeah, the next one. Oh, okay. Yeah, you can use another options to see the code to interact sometime. And so what this is providing is some sort of online editor that lets me actually do editing right here live. Yeah. So if Jenkins has some kind of functionality like this, we can use too. You guess it is similar idea to W3 schools. What they have on the website. It's similar. Interesting. That's fascinating. And you click on the button of pre-grout but if go back on the page and scroll down some sections. First of all, use the bar search tool again and find for cards. Yeah, click the first one. Use a section. It's another kind of playground. You can roll out. So you say the usage section is another, is a place for it? Playgrounds, you can see. Oh, okay. So if I look, whoops. Yeah. Yeah. So you can use, you can stop it. Oh, okay. Okay. That's one. So you can use the GitHub icon to see the code on GitHub. And the last one is to see the code in the same page. Mm, okay. So you just only see if you want it. So do you envision that this might be a, this kind of technique might allow the reader to then experiment with different ideas for pipeline execution on something we're hosting? Yeah. Yeah. So it's just an idea to work with more options. You offer our use more samples, more interaction and a modern way to learn about things. For the pipeline stuff, I don't know how you'd make this work, but into the, oh, the snippet generator or what's the declarative, something or other. Yeah. But those tools that we already have, you know, this would, if you could, if you're looking at this step to click and see what, because there's a certain amount built into those to help you create the step you want, right? There is, but the challenge with those is, those are truly on an executing Jenkins instance. And my hunch was that the project is probably not ready to fund an unlimited number of Jenkins instances, even small ones running for purposes of teaching. So it's, but I'm fascinated by the idea. So this really is showing static pages that are highlighting different capabilities. And then the question is, could we do something similar with static pages for the Jenkins documentation? Interesting. Maybe some intermediate idea maybe instead of like doing this very significant development efforts, allow users to know how to search within page because my understanding based on Jonathan's feedback that many users don't know how to use control F for instance to search. Right, right exactly. And so a search, putting a search box onto our pages already might be, might be very, very well received. Yeah, it's the control F options, just looking there in that page, not entire documentation. So that's the main difference. When we are reading the documentation, we don't know yet in what phase it's that information to look in part. And talking to Mark, your previous page, which you addressed with all which is generated from all different plugins, in case it is possible to not collapse but expand all these different steps. I'm not sure how significant this effort is. And the use control F, the users will be able to switch within this large dynamically generated. Well, and to note that, the page originally started with everything expanded and the users were quite vocal that this page is unacceptably long. And this page is actually a small page compared to, if we look at, I'm gonna terrify everyone now by loading this page, the checkout step. Let's do it in a separate tab because it takes a while. If we load the checkout step, it's, oops, let's find the right page steps, but it's huge. It makes the build step look tiny. It's so big. Check out, check out. All right, so here's the general SCM and while we're sitting in this meeting, just wait, we'll watch and eventually this will collapse itself. It will collapse itself when the page has finished loading. The page will finish loading two or more megabytes of data into it. So it's, and you see the list, the list of SCM providers is probably 50% longer than the list of build targets. And each of these things has, let's expand this one, has a huge page of more expandable things. So absolutely, there's gotta be a way to do this better. And Jonathan's idea of making it somehow more interactive, more searchable, more comfortable feels like a big win. So Jonathan, using that concept from Viewtify, for instance, seems like they've got shorter pages, let's leave it as a grid, although they aren't terribly short because as I look at them, the scroll bar is, there's plenty of content about grid there, but then they allow people to search and find a page focused on the exact thing that they're seeking. So I might type get SCM and find just the get SCM page. Yeah, a lot of projects I use these templates to out the documentations. For example, Laravel.com, it's the other example, Flutter.com, it's another Google sample, Flutter.com, yeah. No, maybe not that Flutter Google. Oh, okay. Maybe in Google, you can find the... Oh, I see what you're saying. So I see, so if I do a Google search for Flutter, beautiful native, oh, Flutter.dev, okay, got it. .dev or ..com, okay. So you'll see the link docs at the top. You'll have showcase shoe, it's another sample. Yeah, that we starts to click on the small links to get complex, the API docs, it's another, in the middle of page, the last options, all right. Oh, here we go, got it, okay. Yeah, yeah, all right. So the Mac complex sample, you can use the search, I add docs to search bar. And the, oh, search is up here. So if I look for import. And there it talks about import or... We'll receive suggestions. There, under the API, there is no installations, but in the previous sections, you can find the installation type. Okay. Get started, person, the middle of the, yeah, get started. So you can choose your operation system. Which operating system I am and down. Yeah. And so move on and get your information. It's different, but use the same way, pathway, to get your information. It's similar. Excellent, thank you. Okay, and I'm gonna stop sharing. So are there other topics that either of you would like to address or other topics for discussion?  Please, Vlad, continue. Oh, thank you. Well, thank you Jonathan for sharing this. I just, I wanted to ask you a period about doing something general for the entire documentation related to frequently asked questions. We have FAQ for specific sections, but during our discussions online in chat rooms, for instance, Mark is very often answering very interesting questions, providing answers. And I thought maybe it makes sense to collect all these different topics, answers, questions, and start creating general FAQ section for entire using of Jenkins overall. And so I'm not sure yet how to organize this, but maybe it will start to cover in the entire, all different aspects of using this system tool and so. And I think the questions that are asked are an interesting source of data for us to gather and consider what should we put into the material. I don't think we would want to become a stack overflow, but I see no reason why we could not mine or gather for good questions from stack overflow and say, hey, look, here are these questions, collect the questions, group, sort, shuffle, categorize them and say, hey, if we had wanted to answer that question on Jenkins.io instead of stack overflow, where would we have put the documentation and let's do that? Because there are excellent question and answer sites already out there that are impressively populated with Jenkins answers. If you look at the stack overflow, Jenkins tag and the Jenkins pipeline tag, it's amazing the number of questions that are there. And at many times it's a question without an answer or a question with a very deep and involved, very, very thorough answer. So good point. I'm not sure that FAQ is the way I would frame it personally. I was thinking that it would be more of, hey, look, here are these questions that are asked. I think our goal should be to make the answers already be available in Jenkins.io so that we could point them to the answer in that page and say, here's where it answers this. That's what color this. Right. And there are plenty of things where we don't yet have an answer, right? So there's lots of research that would be needed or lots of find the most interesting, the highest, most popular questions on these Q&A sites like stack overflow and then from there, apply, provide the answer in our documentation. It's a good idea or anything there. And do you think, Mark, we should put reference to our site or on the site where this question is asked? Like for instance, in case if question is asked on stack overflow, we should point them to Jenkins.io. I think that's perfectly reasonable. Absolutely saying, hey, here's this. One of the dreams I had was that the day would come when most answers in the Gitter channels would be links to documentation. We're a long ways away from that, right? Now, we're a very long ways away from that, but many questions come into the Gitter channel, particularly from brand new users where I just started using Jenkins and if they're already having to ask a question in Gitter, it may indicate something's missing from the documentation, either in its search ability or its content. Mm-hmm, and Jenkins, mm-hmm, go ahead. And Mark, what do you suggest to us and the next actions? For example, we share our proposal now. It's open to receive suggestions. Thank you, Vlad. I saw your corrections there. You send the, thank you. Oh, just like, yeah, I reviewed them, and just then provided simple suggestions about. I appreciate it, thank you. And, but in the next week, so what do you suggest we do? Just keeping studying that issues or improve some text, what do you suggest? So for me, I think continue contributing to the project so that you get a sense for how does the project work? What are the things that will help it? You might now, because we're tending to run out of the initial set of tickets that we had created for transformation, it may be time to go into the triage page, the triage spreadsheet and start looking at those things and doing some triage. So check out a page, look at a page, decide where do I think this might go, create a GitHub issue which says, transform this page to this location, and then you could assign that to yourself or put a comment there that says, hey, I'm working on this and start to work on it. I hope I'll get some time this week to triage a few more pages in so that by the end of the week we'll have some additional material that you could do the triage almost as well as I could, particularly given that you've both had time looking through the documentation. So you've got a sense now of where things are described and where they're not described. So I'd suggest take triage, triage one or two of the existing Wiki pages that haven't yet been transformed and choose one that's interesting to you and start transforming that by creating a GitHub issue, then comment on the GitHub issue, I'm working on this and then start the transformation. Okay. Well, thank you very much. I think we've nearly hit our end. If there's any final question before we close this hour out, the next office hours will be Thursday about eight hours or nine hours prior to this session. So it's Thursday late afternoon European time with Oleg Nanashiv. Okay. All right, thanks everybody. Thank you very much. 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I mean, I think there's like a science to like getting people in and out of these modern stadiums. So, they must have something. Oh, lot is down the way a bit for, oh, a tunnel instead of a shuttle. Oh, interesting. All right. Mandalay saying spots for quote, tailgating before Raiders games. There is Robert Woodard, the second for the Kings rookie roll call for John Ryder. Mr. White Powell. Come on. Let's see some Lamellos or Weissman autograph or something. There's Weissman himself. Maybe we're getting warmer. Maybe Tyrese Halliburton. Desmond Bain. And there's Cole Anthony. Nice. 9 out of 10 gold, Cole Anthony. I think he's had a bit of a slow start to this season, but hopefully still, still about halfway through the season. Still time. That's EA and the magic. There's James Weissman for the Warriors run. Gotcha. Big, big lift and uber lots at a legion. There was a Lamello redemption PYT one. All right. Maybe Halliburton Weissman. Something like that. All right. Halfway through this half case break. Well, other way I'm excited about it. I wonder if the old Raiders fans tailgating at the Mandalay Bay will, will wax poetic and reminisce about how it's just not the same in the lots of Oakland and LA when rival fans would be threatened with bloodshed. Although, yeah, but like I was saying before, Legion is an airline that's like, that will have, I think, flight specials going in and out of Vegas during game weekends, I think. That plane ride should be pretty fun. Can you imagine that plane? Oh, poor flight attendants. Poor flight attendants. Oh, obi top in rookie card blue and an obi top in autograph gold. Nine out of 10. It's got a lot of hype around him. New York Knicks, Dave Barros. Veja, I think, also hasn't had a fast start to the season, but had this guy at Beast right here drawing the gold team LeBron James for the purple and gold and Desmond Brang, 46 out of 99. Yeah. Change the title. Robert Thacker saying the airlines would love it. Just change the title of flight attendant to bartender. Make sure they get tipped. But what if, what if on a loss? What?  I mean, is that going to be, you have to check all that in? Is that an extra fee for a probably extra fees for that? I don't think that's going to fit in and won't be standard carry on. That's probably multiple, multiple luggage cases and stuff to get all that, right? Oakland to Vegas Saturday night or Saturday afternoon. I think that'd be fun. I got to do that one someday. Someday I'll do it. Someday I'll just drive up to Northern California, fly to Vegas and fly back and drive back down or fly to Oakland. There's Grant Riller to 99 and all these LBJs will go to Edward. It's a Pulveda and the Lakers. Devin Vassels pose me pretty strong for the Spurs, Patrick, another gold team Weissman for the Golden State Warriors and Isaiah Stewart, Jersey and autograph might have a little upside too. Jersey and auto for last spot mojo, Shawn Maddock. Yeah, you got to watch out for those guys in the black hole. I mean, I don't know how they're going to get a Darth Vader helmet out there, but, but yeah, lower south stands are cheaper. But your sales guy asked if you're filming with the black hole, you said, Nope. Then he's like, All right, we'll put you on the other side and looks like an RJ Barrett autograph. Oh, is he dropping the J now? We're just getting an RB from him. Six out of 25 RJ Barrett, Pink Camo, New York Knicks, David Barrows. Yeah, if I, if I, if I someday get season tickets there, I don't think I want to be in the black hole, but maybe black hole adjacent. I don't want to get too nuts. All right, last box. Good luck, everybody. We've got a, I don't know what the schedule says, a filler break. And then I think another break. All right, good luck, everybody. There's a orange LeBron James 16 out of 99. Nice. More gold team LeBron, Andre Drummond, Evan Fournier, James Weisman, gold team, gold leader standing by, red leader standing by, blue leader standing by, and rookie roll call Theo Maladon for the Thunder Serenity with O.K.C. Terry's Halliburton, more LeBron James, Nico Manion, Brandon Ingram, and science ill delivered. I'm yours. Larry Nance, Jr. Something to write home about for router uncle. Cleveland. This is for you. Love part of that Cleveland. This is for your team. And that's it folks. That's 2020-2021 Panini certified basketball. We've got another random team break, I think, in the store and I think we're going to get some more cases maybe. Anyhow, keep an eye out. A lot of good basketball stuff. Thanks for watching. I'll see you next time for the next one. Bye-bye.