Dr. Stephen Crocker, board chair of ICANN from 2011 to 2017, Steve, thanks for taking the time to talk to us. Let's get right to it. ICANN's relationship with the U.S. government is very long, very complex. What would you deem as its most problematic points in its history? Problematic points, yes indeed. Different people have different perspectives, tell you mine. We operated until last fall under an IANA contract. Fall of 2016. Yes, thank you. And as we know, there were really two parallel relationships. There was the IANA contract and then there was another relationship which was first started as the Memorand of Understanding and then transformed into a joint project agreement and then transformed again into affirmation of commitments. And now the affirmation of commitments have been swallowed up into our new bylaws. That sequence was aimed at general properties of ICANN, accountability and general oversight. I found the IANA contract, however, which was a more cut and dried, ordinary contract of we are hiring ICANN to do the following things and here's the list and you execute that and we evaluate you and if we don't like what you're doing, we'll tell you about it and if we really don't like what you're doing, we may move it and so forth. I found all that to be much more problematic and for reasons different from what most other people found. The IANA contract served as an irritant on the international stage because it made very clear that the US controlled the IANA function and that was somewhere between uncomfortable and threatening depending upon which countries we're talking about. I had the privilege of seeing all of it from the inside and seeing how it all operated and I found it uncomfortable for sort of lesser or more subtle reasons in that there were aspects where we couldn't be forthright about some of the details. We couldn't publish all our procedures, we couldn't be forthcoming about how long it took various things to happen and so forth and those are very, very small points which you can work with and as we did over time but it's corrosive, it unbalances the relationship and it put us, I can, in a very awkward position of not being able to be as forthright and as transparent as we would like to have been as we should have been. So for an organization that utters the words accountability and transparency every third sentence, it seems like it would be incredibly problematic. It was for exactly everything, it was incredibly problematic and just to emphasize it, it was philosophically as you're suggesting it was completely contrary and so there's this sort of deep irony that we had to operate under that despite what we were saying and then even if that had not been as big an issue just any organization that's operating like that, it's very unbalanced. People who are in the position of providing that service and interacting with the government find themselves having two masters. They have the internal management structure and then they have the external government oversight and sometimes those are at odds with each other. Why was that in the contract? Why were these nondisclosure factors built into the contract? I don't know. I had, in my earlier life when I worked at DARPA been in the same position of overseeing contracts and we took a completely opposite position only if there was a very specific reason having to do with classified information basically would we put controls on our contract and mainly we wanted them to be as open and as forthcoming as possible. We put very few restrictions on. So I don't want to speak for them. I can only speak for what I saw as the results and the effects and that I found inappropriate and hobbling in a way and I am just absolutely delighted that we have gotten past that point. An interesting question is whether there will be some different set of things that get in the way but hopefully not. When I interviewed your good friend, Vint Cerf and asked him to characterize the U.S. government relationship with ICANN he said, not very supportive and problematic. Is that an overstatement? It's not an overstatement and I know why he said that. He was focused on yet a different aspect which was there were and there continue to be some very specific intellectual property questions and sort of legalistic questions that at the time he was looking for strong help in disposing of certain issues and government was not willing to do that and so those issues have to be fought out separately. I don't want to get into it because I haven't spent the same amount of time as he did but our domain names property are is that kind of catchphrase question that comes up you have people suing for damages against the country and winning a lawsuit against the country and saying and their top level domain ought to be something that I can have and take away from the country and say oh my god that's very problematic. You mentioned the stewardship transition so let's deal with that for just a second. Strickling announces that March 14th, 2014. How much back and forth had there been between ICANN and NTIA or other branches of the US government for that matter prior to that announcement? Quite a bit. I could joke and say oh it just came out of the blue but that's obviously not the case. There's a long and a shorter view of it. It had been an open question for a very long time when ICANN was formed in 1998, late 1998 it was expected that that contract would expire within a couple of years. Year 2000 was kind of mentioned as the other thing. Well here we are, more than a decade later it's still going on and on and on. There have been a lot of attempts to revisit it to understand why and so forth. A number of things came together in the few years just prior to that date. Fadi Shahadi was hired as the CEO. I had been chair for about a year when we brought him on board so this was very much on my mind and he was kind of a person that was a change agent and went about trying to position ICANN so that it's status was appropriate for believability, for credibility, for beacons. And then there were external events. There was WICAT WCIT in 2012. There was the Snowden revelations. Different people will give you different estimates as to which of those and maybe other events were sufficient to trigger willingness within the US government to think that it's now time to distance ourselves from this relationship because the US government was being treated as, talked about as if they were exercising a great deal more control than they were and so this was like a millstone around their neck. So Steve, if you hadn't had those things, if you hadn't had Fadi Shahadi as CEO, you hadn't had Strickling as NTIA and you hadn't had the Snowden disclosures as a backdrop, would it have happened? So that's an unknowable question. What do you think? I don't think it was a given that it would happen under all circumstances. And in fact, taking that question and moving forward in time, even after it was announced in March 14th in 2014 and when the community went through an enormous amount of work right up to the very last minute, it wasn't 100% certain that it was going to happen. Did you think between the, and I posed this question to several others that we've talked to, did you think between that March 2014 announcement and when the contract ended in October 2016, did you ever think this puppy is not going to fly? I was always quite optimistic, frankly. I recognized where the pessimism, where the concerns came from and I could see that there were the possibility that it wouldn't happen. And when you're in a position like that, you obviously have to take the next step and say, oh, what are you going to do if it doesn't go? So you start to think about Plan B or you start to think about alternatives.  So I kind of knew what I was going to say if that was the way things played out and where we were going to try to steer things after that. But I genuinely believed that that was going to happen. I always believed that this was going to fly. Later I came to understand exactly how close it was. What does that mean? Well, there was some last minute struggling within the U.S. government and Congress about whether Congress was going to force NTI to continue the contract. The sort of backward situation, it wasn't NTI had the authority to let the contract expire. Congress would have had to take explicit action to direct them to extend the contract, which they could have done. And this was tied to the budget, which was not passed and so there's a continuing resolution. This is all the inside baseball for the U.S. budget process, which is as bizarre as anything. And there was last minute haggling about whether to put a rider on there and some Republicans wanted to put it on. And they didn't. And then there was yet some more skirmishing afterwards. It didn't matter very much. We learned later how close it was that it didn't get put on there. Let's talk about the legislative branch, the Hill, for just a couple of minutes since you brought it up. That last hearing, which Senator Cruz chaired before the transition was approved, where he laid in pretty heavily to both Strickling and to our CEO, Jordan Marvy. Did that send alarm bells ringing for you? No, we just sent flowers afterwards because they were subjected to serious abuse. Steve, the community decided to launch into accountability as an element of the transition, which was not originally proposed by Strickling. Correct. Was that problematic? Well, it was problematic in a couple of different ways. One of the big and most obvious things is that it caused a whole year's extension in the process. It caused a lot of people to be involved in discussions that were somewhat distant from the original question about, are we an up-and-running organization? Are we doing our job? Are we structured right to carry out the IANA function? And so it was sort of layered on multiple other issues. And as part of that, it also triggered political discussions about is the U.S. giving away the Internet and so forth, which is not really relevant because they didn't have the Internet anymore. Let's deal with that point for just one second, if we could. It appeared to me that throughout many of the hearings on the Hill, not just toward the final days dealing with the transition, the Hill never really got ICANN, didn't really understand ICANN. Is that incorrect? I think that's right, and I think it's right in varying degrees, depending upon whom we're talking about, of course. Some did well, really understand it. It's also not a whole lot of mystery because ICANN is a funny, peculiar, odd duck in the spectrum.  And yet it is a non-governmental organization. It's just a California nonprofit corporation. So that discrepancy challenges a lot of preconceptions. We're a multi-stakeholder operation, and so people say, yeah, but government should be in charge. And the answer is no, government should be participating, they should be involved. Government people typically have a hard time understanding things like that. So the model of what ICANN is is not a standard, oh yeah, we've seen many of these and we know what they look like. So that doesn't create a lot of surprise that congressmen and senators would not have an instantaneous recognition of what we're talking about. How much did the affirmation of commitments, the AOC, set up the transition ultimately? That's a very good question. I simply don't know the answer. What the affirmation of commitments clearly did is it got rid of that other layer of formal relationship. And that was a big step forward. It was a clever, insightful move. Paul Toomey and Paul Evans set that up and Rod Beckstrom sort of signed the deal after that. And it set in motion a useful set of reviews, a little bit of heavyweight in some respects, but that's fine, we can deal with that. Throughout your tenure, not only as chair, but your total involvement with ICANN, forgetting the transition for a moment, what was the most problematic or troublesome interaction with the U.S. government that ICANN sustained? I got involved with ICANN through the Security Stability Advisory Committee. My good friend, Vint, who you mentioned, was chair of the board and this Security Stability Advisory Committee was created in late 2001, early 2002 as a response to the 9-11 aspects. And Vint asked me to come in and chair it for a little while. So I knew what a little while meant and I'm still here. And so that was my entree into the organization and that was my focus for a good period of time and I got more involved with the board level stuff and for a while I was doing both things and then gradually moved over. But anyway, that's my background and that's where my focus was. So the kind of things that I found troublesome were the way things relevant in that area got handled compared to the way they should have been handled at least by my light. So for example, the critical function that ICANN carries out is publication of the parameters for the top-level domain in what's called the root zone and the related who is information. The ethic for that is it's got to be absolutely perfect. Absolutely perfect. And because that is dependent upon by everybody around the world and if there's any hiccup in that, that ought to get first-class attention.  So as it happened, a small but nonetheless distinct error happened more than a decade ago and I watched closely to see what the reaction was and what I expected to happen were two things. I expected that the specific problem would get fixed quickly and it was. And then I expected that there would be a focused effort on understanding what went wrong, how that came to be, what we call a root cause analysis and a fix of all that.  Yeah, not very well. I mean, they sort of looked at it. In my view, they did more of a cover-up and a patch and so forth. And sure enough, about a year later, a second event very similar for essentially the same reasons happened again and that caused a bigger reaction, but nonetheless still done under wraps, no documentation, no insight, no review. And that's just not the way you run a first-class system that is a critical system that people are going to depend upon. You've got to have it. Why wasn't there a fuller review? Why wasn't there greater depth? Well, now we go right back to whether I want to say why other people chose to do what they did or what their attitude was. And I don't know. But I'm sure you must have raised questions. Oh, I've raised it more than once along the way. Well, what came back at you? Basically just sloughing it off. I think this goes back to the point that I made at the beginning, is I think the approach to dealing with ICANN was to keep things hidden from view, from a government point of view, so that there just wasn't a lot of questions asked. And, you know, I think we're fortunate that nothing enormously terrible happened. But as I said, it's not the way that I was brought up and not the way I would expect that to run. As you're well aware, there was a lot of talk around when the transition was being debated. There was a lot of talk about ICANN's maturation. It was more mature now, so it was time to let it go. In point of fact, could it have, could the transition have occurred much earlier? Oh, yeah. One of the markers, very straightforward, very, you know, no big surprise, is the organization financially healthy. So in the very early days, peculiarly it was organized with no funding model. And so the first year or two years were a little bit difficult, sort of raising money by contributions and so forth. But after a while, there was a funding model. There was money coming in, we went from several million to 10, 20 million a year, and that felt pretty good. You can run an organization that size. Now we're up to much bigger numbers, but I can't imagine any reason we couldn't have been on our own five, 10 years earlier. Was it a matter, is the reason that we weren't on our own earlier, does it have to do as much with politics and the administrations going from the Clinton administration to the Bush administration to the Obama administration? How much variance was there in our interactions with each of those administrations? So I'm pausing because there certainly were big changes there. And at the same time, when you interact with the U.S. government, it's one thing to be interacting at the White House level, another thing to be interacting at the Cabinet level, another thing to be interacting at the sub-Cabinet level, and things change rather. And at the newspapers, you don't see below the Cabinet level if you see that. So I don't know exactly. Certainly a lot of things had to be lined up. Ira Magaziner was very important in the structuring of ICANN. He goes away. Is there the same kind of focus and insight later in years and not so much in the intention level? ICANN wasn't a top-level priority in the same way that it had been in its formation. Since you brought him up, how do you view Magaziner and his concept? Your buddy, Vint Cerf, is often referred to as the father of the Internet. Is it fair to characterize Magaziner as the father of ICANN? Probably that's fair, actually. Nobody's ever suggested that, and I don't know how he would feel about it. We talked to him and he felt pretty good about it. I see. In fairness, and Vint does get called father of the Internet or sometimes more appropriately a co-father or one of the fathers along with Bob Kahn. But for the Internet, for ICANN, for all these things, there's a lot of people involved. And there's a lot of people, or maybe several people, if not a lot of people, who play very, very key roles and who don't ever get much mention, but they're there. So Magaziner undoubtedly played, I wasn't directly involved, I wasn't involved at all, actually during that particular period of time. Magaziner obviously played a pivotal role in getting things going. But I don't think it's due just to him alone. Based on the things that you have brought up that stuck in your mind, it sounds like for the most part there was pretty broad buy-in to the idea, to the concept that the management of the DNS should be privatized. That was true from the very beginning.  So eventually it became problematic to have such a weighty operation being operated as an appendage out of a back pocket, if you will, of one of the researchers, John Postell, in a university, and he was working at the University of Southern California, and lawsuits were being threatened, and the university said, well, we don't want to be in this business. And so there was a multi-year period, I don't know exactly, but I think it was probably from 94 onward, roughly, where discussions were taking place about what this evolution was going to look like. And by the time ICANN was formed, there had been several steps leading up to that. In the course of researching this project, something occurred to me. The Internet evolved in a post-Watergate era. You guys were part of the 60s and 70s, the sort of anti-authority, anti-government era. I'm generalizing, obviously. But I wondered after talking with a lot of you early pioneers in the Internet, how much of that influenced what we have today, even to a point where you may not have been recognized, may not have recognized that you were choosing a course that was popular at the time? I was actually working, I was a government employee working for DARPA from mid-71 to mid-74. So I'm sitting in Washington, and we're right in the middle of a lot of very advanced researching, and we're building the ARPANET and then the Internet. And meanwhile, Watergate's taking place right outside.  I went to hearings and watched Sam Irvin, Grill, John Dean. And I knew what our work ethic was. I knew what our morals were about the way we handle things. We handle government money. We had a fair amount of authority. And we were very careful about what we did. And meanwhile, we just look out the window and we see this total chaos and a completely different mindset of how top-level officials were behaving. So we saw actually both sides of it and at least I just speak for myself, the good side of government acting in a very upright way to foster the creation of the technology and the distribution of this technology and make it widely available and to keep the government out of people's business and to keep us out of having too heavy a hand. And then at the same time, all of this is going on outside. And the Vietnam War was underway. So it was a lot of disparate factors were going on all the time. But you guys were not... John Postell wasn't exactly a suit and tie kind of chap. Not exactly. No, as John was... So John and Vint and I were among others, three of the graduate students at the first node on the ARPANET at UCLA. And we all worked really closely together. John was famous for having long hair, long beard and for dressing like a hippie. T-shirt, blue jeans and barefoot or very lightweight. I had an experience where I was working at DARPA and giving some advice to an Air Force site in Oklahoma about how to connect their machines to the ARPANET to run a technical test. And after a couple of visits, I said, I've got to get John down here. So I called up John.  And the question that I had in my mind, which I didn't tell anybody at the time, was for what reason was John going to be refused entrance to the officers' club for lunch? Was he, in fact? And I knew that in order to get on an airplane, he didn't have to have shoes. So we get past that point. This is real. I mean, you know, this is 1971 and we're in our 20s and he did not get into the officers' club and it turned out to be for blue jeans. But we got into the non-commissioned office club and the food was just as good as in the officers' club so it all worked out. I read a magazine or told us a similar story about trying to get pastel into some government buildings. Oh, boy. Wearing a long robe and the beard and the whole thing. He said it was in fact problematic. Really? Just another little... I had a long hair and a beard too, actually, in those days. You wouldn't know it to look at me now. And I reported to work at DARPA, you know, as a program manager with serious responsibility, wearing a suit and tie every day, but with long hair and a beard. And I was not philosophically committed to it.  And what I discovered was an exact reversal that people took one look at me but my credibility went up. He can't be here for his looks. He must know what he's talking about. But all of this kind of filters into the question that I was asking. And that is, you're concerned about authority. Everybody was concerned about authority at that time. I'm just wondering if that concern about authority and you constantly and accurately refer to the government relationship with ICANN as being a light touch. I'm wondering what that time, what that generational influence did in terms of leading to what we had. Yeah. It's an interesting juxtaposition because there was another thing that had the same shape to it for entirely different reasons, which was the network, the ARPANET and the internet, were built very specifically and purposefully with as little control inside the network and maximum flexibility at the edges. So that's an anti-establishment view if you want to look at it like that. The telephone system that AT&T and other phone companies around the world were running were the exact opposite, of course. They were 100% control. You couldn't have any addition to the service that was provided unless they chose to do it. They were very, very slow and bureaucratic about making any changes because they didn't need to unless it was 100% guaranteed revenue and so forth. It used to be illegal, absolutely illegal to attach your own device to the telephone system and then there were some court cases.  Whereas today, you know, you can whip up any kind of thing you want on software or hardware and just plug it in and it becomes a device and now we get the internet of things where we get tons and tons of devices that are going to populate everything. So that anti-authority position which you were asking about from point of view of a political thing was also an architectural and technical aspect that was deeply understood. Interesting. Let me ask you one final thing and I should have asked you this earlier when we were on this subject. Was there an attempt by the U.S. government to influence that decision by ICANN? I believe there was. It was... First of all, let me say about XXX is that it was a very messy thing. I've looked at several pieces of it. I wasn't involved in the initiation of it which several years took place but I think it was a very messy thing. The initiation of it which several years took place I did find myself in the uncomfortable position of having to cast the deciding vote after we had an adverse ruling from the independent review panel and it was the very first independent review panel activity. They ruled against us. They said we had denied XXX and we shouldn't have and we still have the legal authority to reject their advice and it was an enormously bad precedent for us to be in the position of rejecting that. Strickling and others thought that the advice from the IRP was not very solid and wasn't reasoned very well but I am told in very strong words that one of the prior assistant secretaries not Strickling had tried to convince ICANN not to permit XXX. That's another case. A lot of stuff and I'm sure I don't know all of it where those interactions were just not all that visible. Which again speaks to the validity of an independent. You bet. Dr. Stephen Crocker, thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us. Thank you, Brad.


Hello, this is a video about integrating using tables and in particular reduction formulas. What a reduction formula is is if you look at any integration formula in the table, if you apply integration formula and the formula itself has an integral within it, that's what is called a reduction formula. So we'll have to use formulas from the tables multiple times for these examples. So in our first example, we're going to find the indefinite integral of x cubed sine of x with respect to x. If you look at the form of this integral, you'll notice that it closely resembles from your table formula 54, which is shown on the screen. We're going to identify what our u is, what n is. Alright, so first n is equal to 3, that's the power on the x, u, which is always your quantity in terms of x is just x itself, which means that the derivative of u with respect to x is 1. So that means du is the same thing as dx, the two quantities are equal to each other. So literally I can take x cubed sine of x dx and I can now expand it using the formula. So what I have here is negative u to the n, so that's what we'll start with, negative x to the third power, cosine of u for cosine of x plus n, which is 3, integral of u to the n minus 1, so that's x to the second, and then cosine of u, which is x, and then du, which we already said is dx. So that's currently where I stand. So now we're happy with the minus x cubed cosine x, we will keep that, that will appear in our final answer. It's now time to look at the 3 times the integral of x squared cosine x dx. So we're looking at the 3, integral of x squared cosine x dx, we now need to find out what formula applies to this integral, and that would be formula 55 from your table. You have u to a power, remember u is always the quantity in terms of x, and then you have a cosine, and that's it. So now we'll identify our n, which is 2, we'll identify our u, which is simply just x. The derivative of u with respect to x is 1, so du equals dx. So this will enable me to use the formula. So as mentioned, we're keeping the minus x cubed cosine x, that will not change, that's actually going to be in our final answer as it is. But now I have a plus 3 times whatever I get when I integrate x squared cosine x. Well when I integrate x squared cosine x, you have u to the n, which is x to the second, sine of u, or sine of x, minus n, or 2, integral of u to the n minus 1, or x to the first, sine of x dx. We're almost there. Last thing I'm going to do here is I'm actually going to distribute that 3 into the brackets. So I'll end up with a 3x squared sine x minus 6 times the integral x sine x dx. So now we're focusing on the 6 times the x sine x dx, the integral of that. So we now know two groupings that will be in our final answer. We now have one more integral to evaluate. So now time to look for the x sine x dx among our integration formulas, that would be formula 52. You have a quantity in terms of x to the first power, and then you have sine. So all I have to do literally here is identify what u is going to be, which is x, the derivative of u with respect to x is 1, and yes, du equals dx. So we'll keep our first two groupings as they are. That is final answer material, and then it's time to integrate the x sine x, there's a minus 6 out front. So it looks like the integral is going to be sine x minus x cosine x. So sine x minus x cosine x.  And don't forget, since this is the final answer and it's an indefinite integral, you have that constant of integration that c. So there you have it, that is your final answer. And there are other integration methods that would also allow you to integrate x cubed sine x, but this is just how they use the reduction formulas from the integration table. Let's do another one, where let's integrate the square root of 3 minus 5x over 2x. Before I even begin looking for any sort of formulas, I first want to take that 2 on the bottom and bring it out front of the integral, so it becomes a half. So I'm integrating square root of 3 minus 5x over x, I'm integrating with respect to x. So you can look at formulas, but you'll notice formula number 19 is the winner, as it's shown on the screen. Your a, which is your constant term is 3. Your b, which is the coefficient of the x under the radical is negative 5 plus b plus negative 5, so b is negative 5, then u in this case is x, which means du is equal to dx. So now I can actually apply this integration formula, this is formula number 19. So I have a half, and then whatever the integral is, so it's 2, square root of a plus b u, that's 3 minus 5x plus a, which is 3, integral of 1 over x, square root of a plus b u again, or 3 minus 5x, and then you have your dx, because remember du is dx. So before I go further though, I do want to go ahead and distribute my half into the brackets, so that'll then leave me with a half times 2, which is 1, so you're left with square root of 3 minus 5x plus 3 over 2, integral of 1 over x, square root of 3 minus 5x dx. So I like the square root of 3 minus 5x, but I do have another integral, which I will have to evaluate. So we are now going to look at that integral that we're trying to evaluate, and we look for the format or what formula it'll go with, and it will be formula number 17. So I need to identify my u, my a, and my b. So let's do that first, a is going to be 3, and b is going to be negative 5, and u is going to be x, which means du equals dx. Now 17 does have two branches to the formula, I'm using the branch where a is greater than 0 because a is 3. So I think we're finally ready to apply the integration formula, so I have square root of 3 minus 5x plus 3 halves, open brackets, apply the integration formula, 1 over the square root of a, that's 1 over radical 3, natural log, open absolute value, you have square root of a plus b, which is 3 minus 5x minus square root of 3, which is a, over square root of 3 minus 5x again, a plus b, plus square root of 3, close the absolute value, final answer you can then distribute the 3 halves into the brackets, and you'll literally get square root of 3 minus 5x plus 3 over 2 radical 3, natural log, absolute value, and then write what's inside the natural log, the square root of 3 minus 5x minus square root of 3, and the square root of 3 minus 5x plus square root of 3. Once this is the final answer, don't forget to do that plus c at the end, because it is an indefinite integral. So that is using reduction formulas from the integration formula table. Thank you for watching.


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They been going slow so far. Put that joint in there baby. I should have stacked them up on the week. So now I'm gonna go to Mariano's after this order. So this is nine, I forgot how many units it was. See, I said look at the units instead of the items. No, because this is like nine already. Most of them are positive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's six, seven, this is eight items right now. Maybe it's one item. Sit this close, let's go. When Mariano's got busy, it's only actually two bags. It's like, oh, these guys, I can't stand these bags, man. Look, every time they got these paper bags like that, them things break off, baby. I'm gonna put this in, I really don't need to put it in anything, I'm just gonna grab the ollie. So I get to the house, kick it like a mouse, and I'm gonna have to get that dolly for the ollie for all those aquas, let's go. Order number one, we pulled up to get it done. You know what I'm talking about? Look at these bags, so janky. They need to get this together. My business partner told me they usually double bag it but they didn't this time for whatever reason. She said bring the doorbell and if she doesn't come then drop it. Drop it, we gone, let's go. We are here with this order to get an order, baby. I got the, I got, hey, we ain't bragging, we ain't got the wagon but we do got the dolly for the ollie. You know what I'm talking about? Getting this money, it's not problem. We gon' keep on getting this money like it ain't money. I'm gonna try to put 40 Jones on here. Wa-ba, mm, I'm gonna put three, man.  Last time we put all that water on there. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. We good, we good with that three ski, baby. Let's go on here, so we can get busy right quick. Ooh, I pulled that door too much. Ugh, a little more on it. How you doing? I have a Sam's Club delivery. Just put everything on here. No, it's like three more cases of water and a couple other things. I'm gonna put the water over there, actually. Right here? I guess as well. Okay. So, let's see if I could be two-tip wrong so we can get it on, bop, drop that right here. Drop it like it's hot, drop it like it's hot. I got some forks and some spoons. What are they about to do? What are they about to do? Right. I'm gonna put that right here, put this right here. Let's see if we can do it, baby. Two-trip wrong, time to get it on. These are some forks and spoons. You just want to sit them on top of here, or that is everything you have a good one. 3.6 miles for 625. It's a great time to be alive. It's already now 3.6 miles. It's probably one and a half, babe. We had to come back this way anyway so we might as well get paid to do it. Y'all know I spent that high fluid. Let's go. Gidees, baby, let's get the guys together so we're going up the shutter. How you doing? I have a pickup 037. 037. 037. Thank you very much. You have a great day. That's it. Here's some forks, baby. Hello, Delivery for Martha. Here you go. You have a great day. Order 4.5 must be applied. Einstein rolls four items, 1.7 miles. It's a great time to be alive. Order number five is 4.3 miles for 875. Now I'm gonna break down what I just said because I know a lot of this will be going on with some people here, baby. I'm gonna break down what I'm saying because a lot of times it's gonna be going over your head. So a lot of people say knowledge is power. I completely disagree. Knowledge is potential power. That's it, that's all. You can apply it and it's not, what good is it? You can have another, but if you don't apply it, then how is that powerful? Comment below and let me know. Einstein rolls so we can get this dough. Steve H. for those who hate, let's go. Just like that, we are here at to draw up this Einstein roll so we can get this dough.  We used to do car reviews for them, but to do, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna tell y'all what happened, man. I don't even wanna, look, I ain't gonna try to bash. You know what I'm talking about? Dude, I don't know if he's still work here. He was tweaking. Delivery for Steve. All right, you have a good day, sir. Let's go. We are here at to draw up this dough. We can get all those people who care. We about to go get this at all. We got the ball, baby. Start shopping and we have to, we have to get some vodka. They about to get tea. I ain't never seen this, y'all ever seen this? Comment below and let me know. I don't know. I don't even show y'all. Comment below and let me know if y'all seen it before. So we have to get vodka so I know it's kind of over here around this area. You know what I'm talking about? 1.75 leaf, they about to get teet. Comment below and let me know if you drink, what do you be drinking, baby? What you be sippin' on? Comment below and let me know. I used to sip a lot of different stuff. I'm not a big drinker, but I'd usually go with vodka, honestly. That's my thing. What is it called? Four, it says a Forex thing on there. It might be this right here. So I always really drink vodka mostly. And then I was drinking that Graygolf, that's a rock. You know, I'm a sa-rock boy. You know what I'm talking about? South of Ditty, sa-rock. I used to drink Graygolfs heavy. Then I, oh ho, I'm gonna give y'all some story. Little story, boy, back in the day, we used to drinkin' that ENJ. I'm talkin' about boy. I've never been a dark liquor drinker, but when we was drinkin' that, my head used to be bangin'. I feel like I got a car accident, baby. When I wake up in the morning, feel like I was in a car accident. My head hurt so bad, baby. So we gotta go ahead and get in the line, so we can get busy, we can get in the express line, so we can do our thing, and we change in lines. So yeah, comment below and let me know. I don't know why I never looked dark. I do like that Hennessy, that white Hennessy, that joint, decent. And, but that's only like on certain occasions. Let's see, I'm gonna stay right here. Comment below and let me know what you be sippin' on.  You know what I'm talkin' about? Proceed to checkout. Gotta hit him with the five skis.  Hello, how you doin', Debbie? I'm livin' the gym, I can't complain. Good, you havin' ID? Oh yes, I do have it. I have an ID and it's DoorDance, just so you know. Oh, okay. I'll say it to the police. You figured out I'm an old man, huh? No, you're not old. You're not old. I used to do it like when my kids were like 21 and stuff, and I still do that, and now they're like 34, you know, so I'm just like, I can't do that no more.   Oh, now we owe.  Yes, there you go. You have a great day. Thank you, God, you have a good one. Let's go. So, we are on our way to throw up this alcohol so we can ball.  I'll give you my mixtures, baby. Hey, I'm a mixologist, you know? I'll be doing my thing with the mix of this. I'm gonna tell you guys a great drink. The watermelon subrock with lemonade. I'll be talking about this joint is smacking. Watermelon subrock with the lemonade.   You're getting busy with that, baby.  Sip that. For dark liquor, I've never really been a dark liquor drink. I told y'all you should drink that ENJ sometimes, baby. Me and my guys, I'm talking, we used to get that gallon for $20. That's why we used to go crazy. My hair used to be banging. I'm talking about my, I wake up next morning. My hair used to be banging so hard. So I'd definitely let that ENJ go. It ain't for me, baby. So comment below and let me know what you be drinking. If you be drinking, what you be drinking, baby? Drop this order to get an order. You know what I'm talking about? I'm about to go ahead and get busy. I wonder what they mix this with. Do they drink it straight or do they mix it? Comment below and let me know what you, tell me, tell me your little, your little Jones, what you be doing, baby? Ain't playing, ain't this. You know what I'm talking about? They ain't playing, no game. Why would I'm throwing this when they, that bill, and they holding it too. They making sure I get up here. They ain't playing, no game.  How are you doing, sir? I have a question for you. What do you mix this with? Sometimes orange juice, sometimes code just really depends. Oh, I've never had it before. So that's what I'm asking. Hey, get it in where you can. On the back of the, here you go, sir. And here you go.  Have a great day, sir. Who did number six grow enough?  We used to be on week, baby. Chick-fil-A, baby, baby, three out of 2.5 miles for 675. We pulled it up right now. We about to go ahead and get live. And we're gonna stay alive, let's go. Fil-A, baby, baby, it's going super fast. Yes, sir, you have a good one. This joint is packed. It was so many people here. You know what I'm talking about? This for yours? No. Jason. Dang. What's the name for the door? Jason. Thank you very much. You have a good one. That way, I'm here to jump in Chick-fil-A, baby. They got a beautiful yard, baby. That's beautiful. You can be out here playing football in the summer, playing football with the kids, throwing footballs, baseballs, basketball. You're getting busy. You know what I'm talking about? Drop it like it's hot. I don't know about that. I'm gonna do a right there. Drop it like it's hot. In the doorbell. You already know what time it is. Step back in with the photo. Smack, let's go. Order number seven.  Chipotle, baby. Five out of 3.7 miles for 750. 750. No, nobody said 750, 750. Let's go. This Chipotle, baby. It says, do not ring that doorbell. They got this joint blocked off, how am I supposed to? I gotta go over to the tape.  Come on, let's go. We gon' get some money and it's not up for debate. Chick-fil-A, baby. Two out of four miles for 750. R.R.P. Nipsey, let's go. Back again, clap again. You know what I'm talking about? Let's see if they got us together. Oh, this stuff's right here, baby. Let's do it. We're out here talking about the Chick-fil-A, baby. Oh, they told me to put it right here. I forgot my phone. I'm tweaking. That'll take the photo. I'm tweaking. I'm tweaking. Trying to talk. Trying to do too much, baby. Trying to talk. So they told me to leave it right here on this little table right here. Oh. Let's go. You know what the photo is? Smack, let's go. Order number nine. Hey, no, me ain't gonna stop the way I shot. Crackle barrel, six items, 3.3 miles, 675. Well, hold on. 725 is a great time to be alive. You see me here right now. We about to go over here and get busy. Comment below and let me know if you ever ate crackle barrel before. I tried to go there one time and that joke was so packed like it always is. I had to, hey, I gotta go, baby. I ain't got time to be sitting in the line while I'm on the grind today. It's time. Let's go. Thank you, you guys have a good one. We're here, baby. About to go over here and get busy right quick. Oh, I gotta go around. Let's go to the parking lot. See if they got us together so we can. How you doing? I have a pickup for Candace. I don't know if, sometimes they gotta check us in. This is it right here, though. This is the one right here. Yeah, it's gonna be both bags. Okay. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Yeah, it's a good one. This one and this one. We have a good one. Thank you. Now we are here to drop this crackle barrel, baby. We have to tell you, baby. We have to tell you, baby. They about to get some food in their belly, baby. We have to join them to Water Park. They're supposed to meet us down here because my business partner texted them already and told them they had to come on down. They had the suite number. We can't take it up to the suite. As you guys know that already, if you watch the other videos, if you've been standing in tune and watching the full videos and smashing that subscribe button and giving me them thumbs up, you know what I'm talking about? We're gonna get to this money and we're gonna give up. Yo, that's all. This can't go away. I tried to put these in a door-to-ass bag with the door-to-ass bag. It was too small to fit these. I don't know what they're doing here because these are wide, John. I don't know what I'm on. Wide, John. All right, you can take all day. You want to guess what's gonna happen. I'm gonna leave it at the desk. Put everything else to rest. See them with your chest. Let's take a look at the Water Park. See what's going on down here, baby. Y'all ready? Oh, they out there getting it in. People out there getting it in. Look. They down there getting it in. Out there getting it in, baby. They on vacation. I don't know what to do with that. Oh, they got like a gift shop look. They got a gift shop right there. I ain't never even paid attention to that, John. Well, this dude keeps playing. Y'all gonna have to... Oh, here we go right here. I think this time. How you doing? Delivery for Candice? How you doing, boss? You enjoying your vacation? It's great. Here you go. You have a good one. Number 10. Keep on grinding and don't stop until you win. Popeyes, white casual, seven items, 4.8 miles, $13. We are hollow. What are we doing? Let's go. Okay, thank you very much, sir. Yeah, I'm gonna lock you back down, man.  Yeah, you locking me back down. Oh, he's about to lock this down. He's trying to use the door dance, man. Yeah. Door dance for Jennifer. Pretty much. We have her going, boss. We are here at Lotte Chicken from Popeyes. Guess what, baby? We already can go to the drive-thru. Comment below and let me know what you get for Popeyes when you come here, baby. That spicy chicken be banging and the spicy tenders. Hey, how you doing, sir? I have a door dance pick up. What's the name? Shanti. Shanti? Yes, sir. Give me one quick second. All right, you can go ahead and pull up to the left, I think. Yeah, that spicy chicken joint, that bun. Bang! Hey, remember when they had the... Hey, I don't know if y'all know this. I'm sure y'all know about this. Remember when they had the spicy chicken competition? I actually did a spicy chicken competition. That was a long time ago. Spicy chicken, I'm gonna say this. No, no, chicken sandwich competition. I'm gonna say this. The, by far, the... We got this little bar in our area. That joint be, they be smacking. So, my favorite chicken sandwich was A&W. That joint be banging.  But that joint is smacking. Comment below and let me know if you ever had it before. Little bag ski. Gotta go to the bag ski. We about to get busy. I hope y'all with me. We about to move kind of swiftly. Oh, just so you guys know, they just built these Popeyes. It's probably like three months old. They joined brand new. The Popeyes in North Chicago, y'all, I'm sure y'all don't know where that is. But if you do know where it is, that joint, the best one, and that joint be so packed, y'all talk about, you can't even pull just no drive through. The line be outside, like outside of the drive through area. So, cars piled up in that joint. I thought I was talking to them. Honestly, today went pretty well. What you think? Today went pretty, it was just smooth. And look, look outside. Yeah. Y'all see what's about to happen. It's about to be raining so bad. And guess what I want to be? Right at home. Chillin'. Chillin'. Wait, baby. This is the question. Only probably making it fresh. I would say this is the question. Why is it taking them this long? When we're the only person here and nobody else inside, nothing. The inside is closed so we can't even go through that. So, we're the only person in the drive through. What y'all doing?  Oh, here we go. Appreciate you boss, you have a good one.  All right, you have a good one. I know this might sound, but I'm about to say, a lot of people may not agree with it. I'm just gonna tell the honest truth, baby. I'm gonna keep a Jeep rear with you guys. Let me put this in. Put it in the back seat. I'm gonna keep a Jeep rear with you guys. Fellas, I just want to say this. At workplaces, it needs to be females there. I don't know what it is about it, but these things, if we're on smoothies when females aren't there, I don't know why. I don't know if we be trying to do our job when women there or what, but everything seems to be one way smoother when females are there. Just like we just went to White Castle and that joint took 3,000 hours. So, that lady that used to be there, she be in that joint getting busy. Every time I go in there, she be, going crazy, so I ain't gonna lie. A lot of times when I go to places I like to deal with women over men because dudes be slacking. Y'all, get it together. Y'all be like, y'all be a little sluggish.  Especially, I ain't even gonna go there.   Because guess what? They might try to, no, I ain't gonna try to cancel me for this, but I'm just gonna say, look, I'm gonna tell you right now, the younger generation, y'all, hey, the younger generation, they don't care about nothing. They don't care about nothing. They just do whatever they want to do. They go on to work with attitudes. They all on their phone. I mean, I used to be on my phone too, but I used to be in there and working busy too though. So, they just don't care. They just don't care to live. They live free and not respected. You gotta respect it though. As much as, I think that the world's gonna change very, most like the baby boomers gone, all the older people they gone, because they used to be the ones that's the backbone of the country right now, of the U.S. And once they gone, because they slow these for surely, well, I ain't gonna say slowly for surely down off because we got faster than them. With all these shootings going on, these killings going on, all that stuff. That's all we tell you guys, protect yourself at all times while you're up there on the ground today in time. But once the baby boomers gone, it's gonna be ugly. They're my mom's generation. They cool and all. We, look, I know a lot of older generations, they do not like millennials. They can't stand us, baby. They cannot stand us. But I believe that we changed everything. It was, we came in and disrupted everything. We changed everything. It's like, we made that everybody realized that we're here. We're here now, y'all old news. Got a couple Porsche trucks, a couple old schools. Yeah, we made sure everybody knew that we were here. And we ain't taking no mess. We ain't, you know, the respect your elders. I was raised in a little old school, so it's a little bit different for me. But for the most part, people my age that respect your elders and all that stuff, it's just different now. It's like, you have to earn their respect. That's just how it is. We ain't going from that other crazy mess. And no matter how old you is, they ain't gonna be talking to you crazy. Because a lot of times older people take their age to their advantage. And they just think they can just talk crazy to people and do whatever they wanna do. They be doing that. They be doing that.   I tell you all, they do it bad and ugly. We are here at Save Bit Money and Minor. Sean, how you doing, boss? Good, how about you? I'm living the dream. I can't complain. You about to eat good, I see. Yes, sir.  Here you go. You have a good one. You too, thank you. Let's go. Here's a draw of this white castles, baby. Comment below and let me know if you'd like some white castles. Oh, it said do not ring the doorbell. They getting good. They got the crumble cakes. They got the cookies. They got everything. Hit on the photo. Let's go. And just like that, anything in the video, I hope you guys enjoyed the content. Today we made 102.78. We came and got that cake. We did decent, baby. Ain't gonna lie. Today was going like, in the beginning it was going very slow, slow, slow, slow. Then it's gonna start coming in. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. And we got done right before the rain came. We came and did our thing. We changed the lanes. And we're getting this changed. I hope you guys enjoyed the video. Again, make sure you like it. Tomorrow it's gonna be down. Why is it going down? Cause we ain't playing around. Why we ain't playing around? Cause 2022 is still bad season. We don't keep on giving them a reason. I'll see you guys on the next one. Be cool, be cool. I'll be flowing. You already know the DDK. And I'm on my way.


news update. Good afternoon folks. Steve Rhodes coming to you live from the shores of sunny Delray Beach, Florida. This year, 1 p.m. update. And currently we have all the U.S. Indices that we track trading the upside. It is a sea of green. The Dow's up 602. That's a 2%. Two and six tenths for the S and P 596 points. NASDAQ to a nine tenths or 324 points. Russell's up two and a half. That's 42 points. The upside three and three tenths for the socks. Semiconductor. Excuse me. That's 86 points to the upside. Gold's off $2.60. Trading out 1838. Silver's trading up 15. Penny's at 2174. Light's recruit up about 50. Trading at 111.05. Natural gas back 10 cents. 30 Treasury down one. Full point and three ticks. She's trading at 133.18. Let's go try to make hay out of what all this means out here as we begin by taking a look at our nine panel market update chart. We've got the E.S. mini in the upper left-hand side. You're going to see that a new daily profile has formed. It is bullish in structure. Price right now is above the center of that profile. That's at 3740. A close above 3740 is a pretty good indication that what the S and P wants to do, or the S mini, I should say wants to move up to the top of that profile. And that's at 3841. If we take a look at the spot, politics still above its 50 day expense moving average, but headed lower. And like the head, it's that 50 day, which is at 2796. The NQ is trading right up into the top of its daily profile. It's 117.16. The U.S. dollar index, which has a rogment to indicator top simply has found support and consolidated with inside its daily profile. That's between the range of 103.62 and 105.56. If we take a look at Goldilocks, really just consolidating with inside that daily profile between 1813 and 1879. The case of silver, this is the kind of the silver has the last couple of days, not Friday, but on Thursday and Wednesday. And then today continues to find resistance at a spot where it says it's just a counter trend move to the upside. And that's at the center of its daily profile, which is 2187. So it bears watching lights, recruit is trading now below the bottom of its daily profile. But I believe just a bit lower it will get back to its TD nine count breakout sport. I'm sure we'll look at that during the trader's end show. Natural gas out here, brand new daily profile that has formed was supported at $6 and $70. Let me make sure that's correct. $6.79. $6.79. It is the third year treasury found resistance at the bottom of that daily profile. That profile informed about price, which is a bearish overall message. Folks, stay tuned for the trader's end show. But if you're off to start your Tuesday, have a terrific one. Thanks so much for joining us.


Here's the inheritance and Mom and dad have it in a trust There is a pipeline from the trust going to your daughter when mom and dad die, right? Okay, so the daughter gets those assets. She's got what mom and dad wanted to get did the living trust work Yes, beautifully now watch this The daughter passes away Will these assets Get down to those kids No No, no because there's no pipeline The trust has stopped working it ended so watch this means That those assets could end up. Oh You know it. I'm with the husband and what if he Oh your head What if he What if he remarries? What if they have kids The money that you wanted to go to your daughter to your Blood to your son your whatever Could end up going to the husband and you know what you may adore your son-in-law's or daughter-in-law's But they can marry someone else Your living trust that you thought would work Doesn't work that way because there's no pipeline