Over the past few weeks, as we have discussed the war in Ukraine, a recurrent theme has been the issue of energy, the issue of supplies of natural gas from Russia to Europe to many other countries. But what we see also is that a similar conflict, similar tension is taking place also in North Africa involving countries such as Algeria, Morocco, as well as Spain and of course the United States. We will be talking about all this in this episode of Mapping Fortlines. We are joined by Prabir Prakash, a lot of events happening in this region. So one of the latest events is that Algeria, which used to supply gas to Spain, it suspended that in October last year. But now Algeria is very concerned that Spain intends to supply natural gas back to Morocco using one of those pipelines. And there's a lot of history in this conflict. There's Western Sahara, the struggle for sovereignty over there. But let's take issues one by one. First of all, could you just take us through the major tensions right now between Algeria, Spain and Morocco? Well, as you said, the major tension between Algeria, Morocco and Spain is not to do with gas. It is to do with Western Sahara. And the fact that in the Sahara way in the public, the Polisario, various versions of this have been there, that Morocco has not got sovereignty over this part. There has been an independence movement which has declared independence, which most countries have either not recognized but kept their hands off, not getting involved in it, saying the people of the republic have to decide where they want to go and rejected at least officially Morocco's claims. Now that Morocco's claims have been accepted by the United States and recently Spain, Algeria is pushing back because it sees this as disturbing the equilibrium in North Africa. And of course, Algeria has gas, which it supplies to Spain. It is the key supplier of gas and fuel to Spain. And I think about more than 40% in 2021, 40% came from Algeria. So given the fact that Europe is facing a gas crunch because of Russia, energy crunch because LNG or oil, both are in short supply in the world today. The fact that the US is trying to also muscle into this market, looking at Russian oil and gas being squeezed out of Europe. So if you also are going to annoy your other major supplier, in this case Algeria, which is what Spain seems to have done, you are really riding for a fall. And of course, the argument that Spain has given that we will send independent gas, which is not from Algeria to Morocco and the gas that comes from Algeria, we will not send. Now these, as you know, are rather difficult to establish because ultimately it's a common pipeline. Therefore, of course, the gases mix, whether you're getting from an LNG terminal, putting it in the pipeline or getting it from the bed gas pipeline, putting it to the common pipeline. Of course, gases will mix. So what you have is input output. That's all you really get. If you're going to claim that this can be separated, the two gases can be separated. It is actually a banker's fiction or an accounting fiction. That's all that it is. And Algeria therefore has raised certified that each molecule that is going is not Algerian gas. So both these are really not feasible. The question is, Spain, why is it doing it? And I think that's a far more interesting question. It is also because Morocco has become much more important in North Africa. In fact, in Africa, because the French, really the colonial powers in Francophone Africa at the moment depends more on the United States. And you can see the African has become quite active with Africa, particularly Northern Africa. And the United States sees Morocco as a linchpin of their North African or West African venture. So recognizing the importance of Morocco, they have got them to sign the Abraham Accords. Also in return for Morocco's recognition of Israel. Yes. There has been a quid pro quo. Recognize Israel and will recognize your claim to Western Sahara. This has been the US ploy. And I think behind that there has been a much deeper engagement with Morocco using Morocco as the new genre of US imperialism as well as French colonialism. I think these two are merging together and there you will see that Morocco is playing a much more important role than what it did earlier because of the weakening of French colonialism or its colonial adventures or its colonial empire. And today a number of countries in Africa have their currencies linked to the French in fact budget so that there is a completely neocolonial grip over the economies. So I think United States desire to see Morocco play a more important role is also a very big issue over here. Right. But in this context, like you said, the other interesting aspect is the fact that the US is also trying to enter the energy market in a large way as well. So we do see that in recent times the United States has become Spain's largest supplier of natural gas after Algeria stopped some of the supplies last year. So in the context of the Ukraine war as well, how do we understand this attempt by the US? Does it have that kind of capacity? Where is it coming from? Well, you know, the fact remains that Europe is dependent on oil, natural gas, liquid certified natural gas either in West Asia or in the United States or in Russia. These are its three major sources. And I'm counting, you know, West Asia, North Africa together in this in the larger context. It's a common geographical entity, so to say. So if you look at these three areas, obviously, if you want to cut Russian gas out, you have to increase the others. The problem is that the US cannot supply through a pipeline. It is rather far away from Europe. So therefore, LNG. But LNG requires LNG handling facilities. And those Spain has built a fair amount of LNG facilities. For example, like in upper north of Europe, Poland has built or east of Europe, Poland has built more LNG facilities, so have certain other countries. But that is completely inadequate to meet the amount of gas that Europe requires. That is why they are so slow to impose sanctions on Russia. They know the consequences. It also has a consequence of another kind. If there is a shortage of oil and gas, then of course prices go up and we can see whatever Russia might have suffered because of the sanction in terms of quantity, it has gained in terms of price. In fact, more than compensated in the price price that has taken place. And you can see therefore, ruble strength strengthening against the dollar. Well, the currencies that have fallen is of course the euro, which has fallen against the dollar. And so is Japanese yen. These are all countries which need to import gas and oil. So you already see the equation changing, but United States cannot fulfill the amount of energy requirement that Europe has. But at the same time, the consequence of Europe is not of the United States. Unfortunately, Europe seems to have decided that it is going to commit harakiri, at least an energy harakiri in order to subserve US goals. And US goals are essentially as their leaders have clearly now said from Biden down to their secretaries of state defense that regime change, change of Putin as the head of Russia. And also weakening Russia is the prime interest in Ukraine. So given that, I think the energy supplies the other part of the puzzle that weakening European Union, long-term dependency of European Union on the United States is also part of what they're attempting to do. And energy is very central to that effort. Right, absolutely. And Praveen, again, coming back to the North African region in between all this, like we've said, one major casualty is the cause of the Saravi people. And what we see is that in this geopolitical game, Morocco, like you said, has become a key linchpin of the US strategy, of the European strategy. And so the price for that is the aspirations of the Saravi people are suppressed despite the fact that the UN has, there's a recommendation for a referendum which has never been done. So in that way, what the Saravi people are facing is quite similar to what the Palestinians are facing as well. Or what the Yemeni people are facing. Exactly. That sort of being sacrificed because the ruling classes in some of these countries are so important for global imperialism. And when it comes to that, all the talk about the rights of the people which you hear in Ukraine, you do not hear in the Saravi People's Republic, Western Sahara, you do not hear about it in Yemen. So you can see, of course, you don't hear about it in Palestine at all. In fact, if you raise the issue of Palestine, you'll be called anti-Semitic. So given all of this, the hypocrisy of the West, particularly the leading Western powers, are clear. The question is, why is the other powers in the world at the moment silent? In raising that if you want an improper, quote unquote, rule-based international order, it is returned to the United Nations. But that is what, of course, the Western powers don't want to do, a G20. But we will not invite Putin to the G20. So the rules of the game is what we will decide. But you know, Morocco is a very special player over here, and you must recognize that. It after its relationship with Israel, establishing relations with Israel, it also bought Pegasus on this. And in fact, it Pegasus software that it used probably is the one which infected the French leadership's phones. It also seems to have been something that they used against even the Spanish leadership. We don't know. But Petro Sanchez's phone was infected. And at the same time, it also seems that Spain also used it. The government uses it against the Catalonian forces, which want independence, the Basques who want independence, particularly the Catalonian movements, which want independence, who are supporting this government. So you also have this Pegasus in Roglio, which involves both Spain and Morocco. And we do not know to what extent Morocco is willing, because if it could infect the phones of the French, who are not adverse to Morocco, it does seems to be that they love playing with this new toy they have got. So can they find out what the Spanish prime minister is doing, what the French president is doing, and so on. So it sort of also raises important issues with respect to spyware that Israel has so freely lent into the world, lent within courts. Part of it to increase its political penetration, part of it is purely money. And many reports, of course, saying, Prabir, that Morocco is one of the harshest police states in the world, especially when you go to Western Sahara. It's still a monarchy. Absolutely. Thank you so much for talking to us. And that's all we have time for today. We'll be covering many such issues in future episodes of Mapping Fortlines. Until then, keep watching Newsclick.


आई सु जोनिगा और ब्रन्द नुई अपसोर अप फोट्वेंटी ग्राम्स मैं और सिदान्त आज दो किरदार नहीं इस नहीं अपसोर नहीं अपक्त हमारा चार किरदार है अन विल ब्रिंगें तुई उं तुब पार्ट्स हम भात किस भीद की किस चीज की कर रहें बे तोक यह ज़ा अपना तु नहीं कोच आता है एस तो बी गयता है में एको प्लेर एब पिन्देन उरजन दों क्योंकि मैं पार सब जाड़ा आदा श्टाएकर वाएकर है नहीं आए बहार ब बल़गगों खेलने को मिल रहां सीं क्या है और इसके लिए जो होना चीए या सिर्फ अगर फुट्बाल के पस्पक्तिच देखा जाए तो जो होना चीए और वाईटर जो कन्ट्री के लिए इंप्लिकेशन्त है because of labour law वो सब उस, हम वाईटर चकर में अभी नी पर रहे है माचल, the reason we got in touch was because once again, after a 5 year cycle, the Blair Winden origin debate has come up for discussion, and it keeps coming up. Like we know people who are part of the show and have been following in input while they are saying it comes up pretty much every 5 years, a new coach comes in he sees he doesn't have striking options he doesn't have an habit goalscorer so he says why can't I tap onto that huge Indian diaspora outside playing in Europe and so on. after the change PROIsers try to play for india and the nation will climb up the FIFA rankings and 9 years on and we are in the same situation Had every coach that comes in they think India has become a good football nation. They have a lot of people and a lot of population and people playing sports again. And then they realised that the time didn't have enough. So then they change to what they are doing now where they're trying to get the government and the ministers  कि अगी कर के साभग, नहीं आपार, अगी कर क्या की अगी अग क्या के साभग अरेएअ पहुड़ के रहा है? If they want football to grow, IMG , AIFF, there wont change the rule. यक अविंडिएखान और ड़ाज़ाद है. अगर इसा आरहांगी आपकोसालागा। शरकन और वगाड़ाद बजोगा ना करी खौगा। ज़ाग़ी विस्थाना और क्या ही सकती है। हो आका आअसा गमा जर नहीं तीन के तो और लिएं। अगर, आध्ञ, उजा गाजा तुद है? है, आधजा तुद आधजा तुद मगतis, आधजा, ऐस शुक्ड़ें। बेए आधचा कोग में बुरेटाना के तुछद मैं करना, शुड़ेंक देखा तुद, जब आधचा थी वी कछतें कचागाजा Drive. कि Austanasian team الثążी खीडर मब उआई सिमठgebautा हम'd की ख visas चीडीर मैच में बाँडिली जै मेच मरन स्वाए Religional football match पाड़ीरPNव एक दीद खोजँ कीड्टत коछता की की वो पच dissolved रव आज हैक, की आज बनाी की चीना नहीं, दीख ईत हैं आचागे शाधवां, और श़वास के आप में ब्जादी ड़्शाशाद की आप, और उस में लिग, पन चाहँाचावाचा कोम आग आप मैज बचाख़े दे है, और में फीगा विलसए मिए आश्चादे वोँ, आप सिक प्रम्याःी के लीक है. को नहुंको लेँटा शान्बाश की कोंगे है. तो बोत हो भी उपन muito अंगे येटा का तुठी. को नहुं के भी बोत भी तुठी के. पक बोत भी पाच की का वो येटा इस्छागे है. असे ज़ोज़ ग़ोड़ा से, черम एक वonos थी abig और त fingernail थब चुथगखा doses शकी ता मिलसबी फिंस ने में आप टब अल तो ही ज़े, �之後 still say the question why time is football only as big as cricket in India? मैखले सु अगना बहुत जोडर न है तो मुझे लिजन को, लेर भाक वागटी करस करईं भर अगन भी आप भगी आप वो, because right now whenever you talk to the Federation anyone running football in this country saying it's a government decision. मैं, if I had the chance to play for India then it would be massive for the nation and the players. And they welcome me with open arms and I'm talking about. the amount of these things in your Sunil chat trees. Who were just young boys? Do you know what I mean? Things like that. They've got pictures of me and Sunil and stuff like that. And you look back and you'll think wow look, how young we both look! If only the rules had changed.  Why would they need a Michael Chopra that they played for England in the 16s up to the 21s for them to come, because he is not good enough for the England national team? Why should we have him coming into our Indian setup and and things like that? Look it's not for him, we are not going to go there like this. We are going to go straight to the focus. ही आष्वी उअल हकल नी गडवात है अआशत्कों नी कचवठाजीत है आश हूँ Wear , food ho Jun नमस औब शुब आजु, देवां, उए आश्वी तुकषिicitत हचे, आस्वी बो गतु, में में ला। भो आश्वत की तगाed बैगन ओछ वी थीस औिक, होत elsewhere diameter as ajustvial I F leaders then making possible change. But this bk. Yeah actually the reason this whole PIO debate started is because the coach eventually went into the federation that I don't have striking tutorial options Corrective options injections or your top players or not getting more than 18 20 games in an entire season. So this neatly to start looking outside well but then the one argument that's always given is if you open it up जी नोंगांगिएकिन्ताल आआआँ असकी मेर्गी कि और अगा ख़म्डिज़ी बन ग़ा है 사랑ा लीगाना जी असकी लिएकिनाई कि और आच्चाता भी तोओगा ख़िएकी स्ऊश्वादाई कि आशदागी एक जाएकी हुएकी कि Farah ॐए तोल्मारु ब्रोगा। लेई तो ओई भे थिदिजी काुडि कैजी स्था ही और शु नहों के भी तो इंड़बी करैए अपने आप स्च्छा ऻो दोन गई आप च्च्चछ़ा तुछब अल्चे न में च्च्छा क्चछ़ा रादे लएका है, इत आप आब आज कोई ईमगा। नहींमोंगर कोगगगग था और और अगगग, आषताग, गगगगगी, आप दो फ्लाए थि और अगगग यीगा, आप आप उभी गीग ज़ूए, और मैं जिली आपी की ईगा तो इस नहींखाजा को ऱसे्दांगा दो गब नहींगी आपी आक़ेद आपी पास्पोड आपी दोगमोंग क्या देखते ती प्रप्रत है wells i go back to last time i played in India was in 2016 i think and i that was 90% done on giving up my English passport and getting an Indian passport शात्युोंई स्वाँम्तेदा जब लीएगे अगा से शयश्चा फ़ें वहले लेके का आऽ छाए at shashin in their team trying to force me the passport through. वहाँ वुष्वुन और वे लिएव तोन्च्छी बारे और वुष्वाँम. बाध्या, मुझा, आगि, प्रहशादाते है। आप नद चुलब प्रहता हो, मैंजा गाूगा, ओब फ़ुम, गया, भी और जागा Param, इसा दूजते परजान, जाबोवें बाधे बनजा क्या, इस वों, अप दोगले ऑाई मदिवाए, टोंगा कर्दा वो चाहा, इसकी लिए बी और नेकि Yoshimi-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2, कि वो जए लग्वा छत्रेडि, अग फ । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । । यह तेल्वन वो जाएँ ख़ाना जाएँ छ़ाँ जाँगो आपुड़ा पीजी तेदा, आप वो च्छानी च्छाँगा आप वो आप ढ़ाँगे ख़ाँखाँगै बगुड़ा जी बगर विशाँज अप च्छानी विश्टा है यह तुगाँगे थे आप देश होता वो � quand it will serve both Indian Contact Clubs as well as the national team in future What is the perspective that they bring into it and they locate it from So eventually the domestic structure will also have to catch up to what is happening in leagues abroad. you'll never be able either create enough players who have Indian Passports that are playing for big clubs nor will you be able to attract foreign players than either play in clubs in India or even represent the national team if that becomes a possibility right so these are issues but apart from that lets figure some of the perception issues also if any foreign player are coming like zlata and suddenly is playing for India what kind of impact does that have on the 20 other guys already in the camp व्ई मतगीर है, मारदिल चुआप्रा सinkuथी जाछा, दो व inherited दो य hyung6 लेक, बभािक trash with वैगा लोगा, तो सी, य चिल्ग, बहूँ, बंग ल्पत, ठोवक आ論ा, उखॉ�izes, आप आप अग裝ी. आप थुन बाग आज़ Woche. अपकपा्स इंद्यन ताइस्पो़र के ख्लाडी है। अगर बेटर ट्रेंट। आप की लिए त्रेनग क्रहा है। तो फिर आज़़ होँ सभते है कि यह मतब इंद्यन ताइस्पोरर के यह गरा के ख्लाडी आसेद इस जो जो एक मप्लडके है फिर क्या होगा अन्त्तेंगाउ नहींटान लगावे नहीं खोगे की नसल्जी धावसी कि नहींथा ज्समरो आप में नधान र्बैजा अब प्पालने तो खूँड़्वाद के धेखाजा है दो पोस्एभेगे लोके लगाइं दीश्किलना भी आश्फ़ोगे रेद है for a specific purpose which is to help the club win. And help the wider ecosystem of the club develop like you're saying. So it's not that foreign players when you are in club, then don't know of course that's the way. First and foremost, if you don't have a good sense of the fuckeding up approach or your life change, बाते हैं। उंसे कोई बात नहीं इता है क्योंछे किसी हिंडॉंँगन प्लर की नाकरी लेली है मुझे अगर उपलेर अच्छा हूँ उत्से आप कुट सीखें हैं गऱैषिं। क्योंगा हो का इंपॉझूंस होगा लीड़ुष्य्प् रोल या जोभी है same thing applies to the national team like you are saying if you look at many sides across the top teams in the world especially South American sides you will find that over many years most of the players come from clubs that are based in Europe so this is essentially an extension of that concept where while your footballers may or may not have talent they are learning from the coaching system, the competitive system etc etc that is in the most developed football countries now unfortunately with India there is a double sided problem today we are not either good enough to send our players abroad nor are we attractive enough or nor is it possible actually because of the rule for foreign players to come and play for India so we are a little upset from both sides yeah I can understand because we are in the process of building our own players from the academy yes but then if there are one or two players who are really good I think like I said they should be allowed it will only help but not I think they are cutting down on the ISL player also I think that is what everyone is saying I don't know if both the parties are going to agree but then if they cut down on the players then it will only help Indian players to play more matches but here for the national team I think it is a little different if this one or two good players can come in and help I think it will be a great thing for football Rangdi bhai ISL ka doh bada nahi iLeague ka doh confirm hoge hain aur ek cheez hai ki Delhi mein Chhatalpur ek area jaan sa dhan toh raita hain daa ke kaafi kude hain ki 3 plus 1 pe baapis aage hain hain baapis hain I think it is a good news for the Indian players I think 5 was little too much of course yes every club wants to win I can understand but if you have to think a long term I think Indian players have to come in they have to play every match abhi aap ISL mein khel rahe iLeague mein khel rahe agar aap benchmark hega salwar than when he is going to improve so I think it is a 3 ek sabar pushne hai because you played for so long and you have such a long history with the national team in your times and I am not talking about Michael Chopra how many times have player of Indian origins come to a camp and have they been good enough have they not been good enough to give us a few examples Michael Chopra was the only one I think in our time I think Shukhi Sargarh time when no one was there Shukhi Sargarh time mein because one player when Contestine was there he came for the training he came for the trial he came for the 2 weeks training but then honestly he wasn't as good as Michael Chopra or anyone so then you see just because Indian origin kele Bhulakej abhujasti khel rahe I think that's not right but he has the players who we are bringing in has to be better than Indian current Indian players so I think in my 12 years I think the chances for signing was only Michael Chopra other than that they were I think they were talks that Harmeet Singh who from playing for Norway Harmeet Singh Harmeet Singh but then I don't know if he wasn't ready I think he was playing for Norway then but I don't know if he was ready but in last few months I have read that he is ready to come and play in India but in his prime he was not ready to understand who will want to come and play for India in his prime even Michael Chopra the same but Michael Chopra 2008-9 he was still good he was saying when we were talking to him that at that time he was at Cardiff and scoring a lot of goals so in terms of if you just look at the level of club football at that time they outlaw they cured over the international we and you didn't have that competitive environment in India so obviously he would have probably fit into the squad plus the coach at that time Bob Hardin was an English coach like daily English and therefore the philosophy with which they might have grown up would be similar he would understand and what all he brings to the system but end of the day we are still doing it but the practical element is that a player has to give up his passport to play for India which is the rule currently that's what gets in the way do you think that given this anyone obviously the prime he will play for England or Norway or Denmark like we were talking about New Taylor right yeah i can understand brother abjo bhol rai in their prime they were not won even Michael Chopra when we played under 20 he was waiting for the senior so he wasn't ready to come i totally understand as a player but after that when he didn't get a chance for the senior team and then that's the time he will still be good even if you don't get a chance for the English team he would have helped but the good example is Arata Arata has given his passport and then he played for India when Wim Coleman was the coach i don't think many will do it but there are people who are ready to do it so there was one player here in in Meroka he played for 2 years Williams he has been trying to get up Indian passport because his mom is an Indian so he tried his best for many many months he was trying good player so basically even if you are ready to let go of your past he tried his best for many many months he was trying even if you are ready to let go of your passport and you are ready to take up Indian citizenship even then it is very difficult because Archan who is sitting in Europe he is sitting in Danny Bath he doesn't want to give up his passport but if you want to give up your passport even then it is difficult even then it is difficult because again you have to fulfill the criteria like Chopra was saying that you have to live in 5 years you have to live in India you have to collect taxes etc there are many rules and regulations which is very very difficult like Pandit said some people are not ready to give up the passport but here 1 or 2 players or 3 players are ready to give up their passport like Arata did and still finding it difficult this is what we talked about when you call player of Indian origin will your only criteria be that he must be better than the other player in the Indian team or because he is coming from outside then it should be a cap let's say played the Premier League played in the championship played in the league only that sort of player you will want or you will be ready to attract any player coming from any level of Europe because he has played in his prime after 5-6 years he is not playing this game and just signing in his name that's wrong and if you keep a cap then you are a very good player who can easily fit in the Indian team but he doesn't play in the same level and I think coach should see if he is good enough or if he is better call him for a training for 2 weeks, 3 weeks, a month and see how good he is is he better than only but if he plays in the same club and we don't know if he is still good or not good so current performance on that if you are a coach if you want to call a PIO then which is the position you would really look for striker so now as we all know that Indian striker will be missing here because Indian striker hardly get a chance to play or Indian striker even though Indian striker is also one it's a we need we have already spoken about this so it's not only but any position if they are better first thing we should sign and second we know that there are two stopper stopper backs and strikers and we know that we really need and one good attacking with filler but any players who are better I think they should also I want to ask from inside because one team is saying one perspective is saying allow this scope let's say government has made all the rules dual nationalities so anyone who has an Indian grandparent can play for India one is that maybe today nobody from the domestically will then make it to the national team except maybe 1,2,3 players students in nation and good peeps inside that's one element to it but secondly doesn't it then create like a pressure on the domestically to then come up to that level that you strengthen your domestic structure slowly slowly of course it takes time so that the players of your club you are from Bangalore Bangalore FC they should also be represented in the national team because it's a matter of pride at the end of the day if you want to go to tol or Dr.Matspur or anyone say that our 5 player national team has a world cup squad it shows that your system is strong your training process is going well so do you think that's also a case like if we are comparing on the TV level some people are watching you are going to watch either the premier league or you are going to watch the ISL then don't we also have to go to that level you mean that the high league players or the second division players there should also be a better facility in terms of better coaching overall we can't look at it just that your club structure is different we will bring national team players from somewhere else this is a short term it's a short term but honestly PIO named one player right now who will be better than the current players anyway one guy is playing to meet Bayern he is surprising but he is ready to come that's it many players are there no no no the PIO players who are ready to come they are better than our current players there are many players there are many players you can see the Bayern Munich guy he will not come right now he is on top of his prime but in any case he is probably already played for New Zealand so he is no longer eligible to come just an example so how many PIO players who are ready to come here are good enough are better than don't just go by he is coming from US he is coming from Europe but are they really good and the only way you can judge that is that he has been here for a month and not just on the field how is he jelling with the coach jelling with the coach of the players so important because the club system has become a foreigner of your national team that I will be the proof and I will be different no no no not just that that applies to foreign players as well as we are talking right now when you are playing on the club side if you are playing in FC Goa so your week in week out training with the club that is to play a particular style of football from there you go to the national team camp you are trying to play a different style of football similarly if you are playing at Manchester United let's say you have one like many countries have had a superstar who is playing for a very big club but in the game of 11 people or 15 people his impact is not that much because he is still a superstar but that is the coach's decision superstar to maintain that that is the decision for the man management at the end of the day but I can understand the national team coaches they don't get enough time to make the players jealous that's the difficulties they are facing everywhere in the world but the structure of European league are so good that even though they don't get a chance but things are getting better here also but it's a difficult thing to whatever you are saying to maintain those kind of thing but it depends on the coach also rendi by the thing with the national team coaches I mean you are playing with the national team means you are the climate problem so if a normal player is taking 10 days to understand something or a crop player should understand it in 2-3 days because you are at that level mentally, physically everything but what Siddhan was talking about even if a Manchester United player is coming whether that team is fit or not if you look from outside sponsors, AIF they will jump on the bandwagon because on the pride of this man we can sell so much more we can fill the stadium the best will hover around the national team a lot more articles people will talk a lot more about the national team the only thing is they have to manage better and what are the pros and cons of bringing those kind of plays so I guess it has to be evaluated on a case by case basis right but that's where the scouting people who can I'm sure scouting comes in you have to send those people if you see that there are good players somewhere in the world you cannot say that you have to send someone there and see every weekend or see every month how he is progressing enough and are they ready to play the style of the game what the coach wants this are many things I think you have to bring in for one month every month every month you have to adapt to the system there are one or two very good players who are ready to adapt and there are some good PIO players who are not ready to adapt so you take time and you have to spend a lot of money on flying out people to see the game yeah yeah yeah these are other practical elements I'm glad you brought it up because if you look at how much a national foundation spends you look at India everyone assembles in Delhi and then the whole team flies from Delhi and flies back but you look at a team like Spain they might have 20 players coming from 20 different locations just in terms of planning the travel how much more staff does that require what is the additional cost of all these flights who is willing to play this is very basic just travel but this applies then across the board to all kinds of things what are the allowances for these players to spend their time if they are leaving the club if let's say the player is agreeable why would he leave the club to come and play on a shitty ground in India where the chances of injury might be very high where he doesn't have confidence in the medical staff etc etc even the travel you are the travel of going and coming you have to come back next week you have to do the job for your club side where you are probably getting this is also in a deep environment suppose you are saying you are coming to Europe then he will join you at whichever location and I know the way a team works and even if you are a big team there will be murmurs within the team saying that we are camping 10-12 days these guys are coming 2-3 days earlier so that can cross factions within the team as well yeah and that's where courts and management play a very big role how you manage how you bring the players it happened in the past even the small club this is about 20-25 years back the small team the club will take 15-20 days from a month they will be practicing they won't take the name of the big club they will come and select after 2 days but now I think things are different now I think the coaches they have got a good management style so I think this shouldn't be a problem these days of course everywhere it happens I can understand in a big team it happens but things are way better than before it used to happen before but 2 days ahead it would have been better but no, I think things are different now so can I ask you because Chopra this question about if you had to pick a 23 man sport how many what percentage or whatever would be Indian players and what percentage would be foreign players so you are saying that only there may be 2-3 foreign players who are at that level in your opinion brother for me is until and unless I see no PIO first I have to see whether PIO is better I will bring them all together if any PIO is interested they should come in train and you should see of course the coaches should do the study how they have been playing for last 3-4 years or what's the injury and status and stuff and bring them all together sometimes we get a month training and you will see at the ground man who is playing well and I will not say pick 2 players if PIO is better let the PIO play if it's not better anywhere from Kerala, from Punjab PIO should not be PIO should be the best otherwise no one last question because you travelled a lot all over the world and you also trained and so on so of course you have seen a lot of different players what is the difference when we are chasing say a good PIO what will you bring to the table and I am talking in pure footballing terms what you are saying is player what do I see then say if we get a top quality PIO what will they be adding into the team in terms of quality on the field what is the basic quality that you expect basic quality is that whatever we have the the players we have right now as a coach coach will know where we are and coach will know where to add on anywhere with striker if we need striker and if the PIO is playing better than what we have then why don't we take it honest for the Indian players it doesn't have to be he has to be good in speed but any player like I said if they are better why don't we bring him basic quality is like movement in the box movement in the box that you spend first of all you have to spend 15-20 days 15-20 days or a month you will be able to see what type of first thing is what is your idea how do you want to play what are you playing again how are you playing again is it really fitting in so I said for example against Bangladesh we had a tougher match then Qatar I think everyone played well as a defensive voice but against Bangladesh we couldn't even break once so what do we need we need a player with good touches we need a player who we can break in Bangladesh we have one bit of corner kick in my head Sunil ka miss one so if we have a good striker good touches for example Michael Chopra we know what a good score what a good touch inside the box he has got so if you have been there or creative midfielder we need more creative midfielder as an Indian we are struggling a lot but against Qatar we were flying we are defending and we are going on counter attack seeing that what our creativity player has got any PIO has got the type of creativity who can cut through those blocks I think why not sorry children if you have drafted Michael Chopra peak Michael Chopra sorry Michael but we play a target man game Michael Chopra will never come so here comes in how we want to play here comes in what is the coach's idea if you are playing Barak we need tall number 9 straight up front and he will fight for every ball like we used to do before but this coach he want to play from the back and that is how the coach have to see what is my idea what is my philosophy according to that you bring in the place alright so massive thank you to both Michael Chopra where ever they are one is in Impal and the other is in Jakarta for joining us and for giving their personal experiences as well as a wider perspective on some of these issues of course PIO's and Indian football will be going on in 420 rams we will take a break


going on everyone. Sam here with late in sports cards. We're ripping 2023 Top Star Wars Signature Series 20 box case. Break number five, random hit style. Wait, this is going to work. We've got our 20 participants copied over into the random dot org window. We also have another random dot org window where all the hits are going to go. As we're doing the break, Kyle is going to be typing in all of the hits into the random hit sheet. Once it's finished, I'm going to copy and paste them back over into this window. We're going to roll the dice, say it's eight times. We're going to random off the names eight times, the hits eight times. Whatever hit is next to your name at the end of the break is the hit you will receive. So good luck here, everybody. Let's do it. Oh, Devin Lloyd. That's awesome. We already know Vaughn's getting the Jags and every PYT break chasing Devin Lloyd. Devin Lloyd's actually kind of a beast though. Like Devin Lloyd was a guy I wanted the Ravens to take. I don't know to be honest, KJ, this might be, I don't know. They had it last year. Did they? Six series. There's so many of like these one box Star Wars that it makes it like tough to remember everything. Here we go. Good luck. Yeah, I think they did. I feel like they definitely did. First hit is going to be a Addy Galea. Addy Galea from the Star Wars Declan Wars. That's Angelique Perrin. It's not new. No, they had it last year. Missed out. We'll have, we have a lot of these in stock, Gavin. Keep your eyes out. Keep your eyes out. We will be having a lot more of these breaks. Don't you worry, buddy. Hey, what's up, Ryan? Yeah, Forrest and I switched Saturday and Sunday. He wanted today off to go to the Rays Tigers game. So I was like, Sunday, Sunday. Sign me up. I'm so in on that, dude. We've got a Septon Vanick Refractorado, Joseph, or Alton as Septon Vanick. Second hit of the break. Yeah, new limited football going up as well. Did he, Ryan? Oh, awesome. Oh, that's awesome, dude. For the time being, Kyle's actually going to be over on drip four nights a week, Tuesday, Friday, Saturday, Wednesday, Friday, three nights a week. That was even close, man. We've got Dr. Pershing. That is going to be our next hit. It's going to be Omid Abtahit as Dr. Pershing. You better not take my Don Zimmer bobblehead, Ryan. So yeah, I'm not going to be doing drip anymore. I'm not going to be on on Sunday because we figured it doesn't really make sense to do drip on Sunday night and do Sunday night, Sunday daytime personals. Oh, do we actually have this listed as 22? Harris and Dula. That is three of five. Wow. Harris and Dula, three of five. And that's a Marshall. That's awesome. Holy cow. Three of five. Harris and Dula. Oh, sir. Kyle, we got you. Nice one there. Harris and Dula, three of five on the auto. Very nice. Kyle's getting away from me. Yeah, true. That was the main reason. We've got Crescenton on the refractor. That is a book about Kerry Jones as Crescenton. Yeah, that's the only reason Kyle's going to drip is to get away from me. Smart man. Crescenton. All right, we've got Governor Arrinda Price from Star Wars Rebels, Mary Elizabeth McGlynn as Governor Arrinda Price. Next up is going to be another twilec server, twilec server Andrea Bartlow, twilec server, refractor on it. Nice one here is going to be another throwback auto of bartender. That is Alan Graf as bartender. The throwback auto. Next up, we've got a Lyra Urso. Nice one there. That's going to be Veline Cain from Rogue One, a Star Wars story. Lyra Urso. Urso. Now I just find it so weird that limited to 14 box case seems off, doesn't it? Like seven box, half case. It's like XR, same thing. I don't know how much I like it, to be honest. So you can still put football in the same way as the 40. Aura Singh. It's going to be our next auto. That is from Star Wars, The Clone Wars, Jamie King as Aura Singh. Aura Singh. Again, guys, we've got just six to go. PYT style on Sonic Light, breaking a little bit later on, two half cases. Six to go, PYT style. Yeah, they're getting listed now. They're getting listed now for both of them. So keep an eye out, Dean. Nice one here. We've got a Haske triplet on the blue. That is 40 of 50. Paul Warren is Haske triplet. Yeah, no problem. We've got contenders basketball and limited football. If you go on the website under live group breaks, you could find them. It's going to be like the newer ones, Dean. And then they just haven't been scheduled yet. They're listed on the website. They're just not scheduled yet. Nice one here. We've got Vice Admiral Holdo, 24 of 25. From The Last Jedi, Laura Dern, Vice Admiral Holdo on the green. Losing it over here, apparently. We've got another Tally Lintra from The Last Jedi, Hermione Corfield as Tally Lintra. Tally Lintra. That's a Jurassic Park, yeah? Yeah, yeah. We've got a Imperial comms officer, 45 of 50, Imperial comms officer. Kitty O'Brien, 45 of 50 on the blue. Imperial, that is from the Mandalorian. Next up, we've got the Edgerio Two Tubes, Eddie Two Tubes. Coming up again, that is David Accord from Rogue One, Edgerio Two Tubes. What do you call them? Tommy Two Tubes? Yeah. You know, that's how we're always saying Donnie does backflips? Yeah. We call them Donnie Backflips now. We've got Lux Bon Terry on the throwback Red Auto. That is, again, not number. Jason Spiesak is Lux Bon Terry. Lux Bon Terry. Oh, look at this guy, man. Good God. Get him out of the shot. That's terrifying. What are we doing? Good God. Another Ezra Bridger from Star Wars Rebels. Taylor Gray is Ezra Bridger. Three to go. What's up, Austin? How you doing, buddy? Corrin Trawler. Another one of those. Demetrius Bistrebsky as Corrin Trawler. He's got a nice auto. Demetrius. Corrin Trawler. He sounds pretty good. Demetrius. Next up is going to be Rick Olly, or Rick Ole, Ralph Brown from the Phantom Menace. Last box. See what we got, guys. Good luck. It's going to be A. Lovey on the throwback auto. Lily Cole as Lovey. Let's do this random errone real quick. All right. Again, guys, doing the random for 23 Top Star Wars Sig series, 20 box case break number five, random hit style. We have our 20 participants. Now our 20 hits are copied over from Addie Gallia down to Lovey. What we're going to do is roll the dice and random both five times. One, two, three, four, and five. We've got Francis D down to Chris S. And five times on your hits. One, two, three, four, and five. Septon Vannick auto down to Corrin Trawler. Here we go. Good luck. Five times on your names. Five times on your hits. Francis D with the Septon Vannick. We've got Tim Z with the Rick Olly. We've got Drew B three times with the Hask triplet auto to 50. The Bartender auto and Harrison Doola three of five. Very nice. Got Shigunori Yu with Aura Singh. Isaac K, Adrio two tubes. Hilton T with Twilex server. Allen V with Tally Lintra. We've got Damon S with Dr. Pershing. Edward P with the Vice Admiral Holdo auto to 25. Ted K, Addie Gallia. Michael J with the Governor, Arenda Prince. Francis D with the Imperial comms officer auto 45 of 40. 45 of 40. 45 of 50. Francis D with the Lyra or so. We've got Damon S with the Ezra Bridger. Hilton T with the Lovey auto. Chris M with the Crescenten auto. Scott F with Luxe voluntary. And Chris S with the Corrin Trawler auto. That'll do it for the break guys. Thanks again for getting this build on up. We've got one more.


Hello there this is the family doctor going in town. Oh, where you going to that big sack? Looks heavy What's in it if I'm not too inquisitive nails 10 penny finish nails. Oh Building something up at the lake. No. No. No. Ain't there something down here in town? Oh, yeah, and you further come to town building a house for yourself in the message over at L.M. Street Am I helping them? Oh, well, that's so well. I hadn't noticed it That won't be much out of my way griff. I'll hop in. I'll give you a lift. Well, thank you. Thank you What's this newcomer's name this Stanley told me was yep, Joe Stanley Oh, hello, Pete drop into the drugstore later. I want to talk to you. All right Peter will Nice fella Pete me sure is. Oh That's the house there is it? Yeah, that's her Take much but adequate Joe says well, thank you again doc. Thanks each. Oh, here's Joe. Now knock it out to each other Well, you got the names. All right there griff. Yeah, yeah, got them. Thanks to doc Adams here Doctors is Joe Stanley. What are we telling you about?  Stanley. Oh, thank much, but it's adequate Oh, yeah, I'll take you to your nails over 10 penny finish and get busy again. All right griff be right with you Say doctor I've been going to come down to your office to talk to you. Of course. I ain't had much time since I started this house Yeah, I suppose not, but you know You know the missus. That's my wife. She's been complaining.  Well, they have a come down. Oh, I've been a trying to but Well, you know how the women folks in there They just sort of put those things off says you get over it, but she don't seem to well I'm glad to drop over to your house anytime you say. Oh, would you do that doc? Of course, that's my business. Well, now that would be mighty kind of them. Where'd you live? Well, we're just staying out in a little old rented house for a spell till I get this place finished It's out at 1904 7th Avenue. All right. I'll drop out about 8 o'clock tonight Oh, how do you sell thanks don't say nothing to the missus about what we was talking about we A dog, of course, I'll bet you're hungry Joe and I fixed an awful nice lunch for you Doc Adams, this is my wife. Mrs. Stanley great little woman can't live without her. So got to live with her Yo, how you go on how to do doc Adams? I've heard so much about you. Well, that's nice Well that the doc you'll drop around and see you sometime. All right. I will. Yes Where'd you put those nails? Oh, it's like a mighty nice home. You're going to have here mr. Stanley. Oh, yes We both look forward to it so much just seems like we've scrimped and saved all our lives for this Of course, we won't be able to retire exactly. We still got to go on work and earn a living But it'll be much easier on Joe than a farm work What's he going to do he's going to start a gasoline station Oh, he's been a studying up on it for a long time and he's just sure he's going to do fine That's a lean station. Huh? Well, I'm sure he is too Dr. Adams, I've been going to come and see you ever since last week. Yes Joe stepped on a nail and of course I've done the best I could but it don't seem to be no better at all They you know Well, sometimes those things can be pretty dangerous. Yes, that's what I told Joe But he just won't do nothing about it says the nail while rusty and it won't hurt him a month He won't come down to the office. Hey, no, he won't Suppose I drop around your house. Oh, would you do that doctor? Why certainly that's my business Oh, that'll be lovely if you will but don't say nothing of Joe. Will you and just try to make it look like a sort of social Sure, I understand the address is 1904 7th at right Mrs. Stanley. I'll drop around this evening say about 8 o'clock. Oh, thank you, doctor That'll be just fine. All right, then. Goodbye until then You want to see me? Sorry. I couldn't get around sooner. Just finished dinner. Oh, hello, chick Oh, the arms doc say, uh, you know about this new fella that's built in a house over at Alam Street What about it say, do you know what business he's going into?  Yeah, he's gonna start a new gas station. Yeah Doc, I don't think it's right. What? Why not? Well, we've got enough gas stations here now. Oh, Pete Gosh to Friday. What difference does it make to you? I've met him Joe Stanley's his name and his wife seems to be a right smart little woman Nice people for seated into welcome. I'd say well, they may be all right as people But I still don't like the idea him starting another gas station. You sound pretty serious about it. Why I am Us merchants are got to stick together But well, I I guess there's no way to stop them. Yeah, no Lucky for him there isn't I guess Well, I guess I'll be running along. I've got another call to me Guess there won't be much need to stay and open much longer Check you might as well ride along with a doc if he don't mind. No, of course not. Come along sick All right. Thanks. Good night, Mr. May. Good night. Good night I've been Well, she talked her Adams you you look kind of mad mad No, but but Pete shouldn't say things like that. He shouldn't even think them thoughts like that Don't do anybody any good least of all the people who think them Good evening doctor. Good evening. Mrs. Stanley. Well, there I am. Oh doctor.  I've been trying to take care of him the best of course. Where is he in here in the bedroom? What's the trouble Joe I've got an awful misery. Yeah, let me see Doctor excuse me, Mrs. Stanley. I've got to get to work Hey, yes, sir. Come here. Yes, sir Take that note to Pete and tell him to rush right back here with the serum it calls for and you come right back to check I may need some help.  Did you oh, yes, thanks You made pretty good time. Yeah, come on in with me. You too. Check. I'll probably need your help. Yeah Here you are Joe And we'll have to have you fixed up here a little eye dine over this spot here There we are No, yes, Joe. Are you trying to be as quiet as you can? No, it ain't no use I can feel it Take no use Sal yes, Joe.  Yes tetanus horrible thing and He just stepped on a nail Well, you come with me chick. I I want you to get Mrs. Adams and bring her out here while I get Mrs. Maynard All right Shake you mustn't do that now. I'm sorry dr. Adams. I Just never seen a man Died before Well, take it has to come day every man. I Hope I can meet it with as much courage as Joe Stanley did doc. Oh, I didn't hear you come out Pete doc chick I just uh Well, I hope you won't say nothing to nobody about what I said this evening About Joe Stanley and his gas station of course we won't beat That's the past the past Yes, that's right and doc It won't never be anything like it in the future. I don't think there will be and that little lady in there Is going to have that new house if it's the last thing I do good. I just hope that Well that what little I can do for now will sort of make up for what I said and Thought about that their gas station This is the family doctor. I'll be in to see you again right soon. Goodbye