I'm here and talk to y'all real quick for my husband Legion and I'm gonna show y'all every girl supposed to be doing a video for y'all but Anyway, today is the last day of school Man, we made it girl. We made it by the time I loaded up y'all should be done too. We made it. We made it We made it now even though we made it and we're done Last night I went through some worksheets and started tagging some stuff we could do over the summer I think it's really important especially for my child that I keep him engaged Throughout the summer. We ain't doing anything. You know, we're not doing stuff every day It'll probably be two to three times a week and that is it just to keep him engaged mostly reading him reading to me or me reading to him or vice versa, but he will be doing some type of math or Language arts worksheet Once a week, that's it again not doing a lot once a week. So we are done. We are done for the school year He just has I think it's so cute what they did for this week They did escape rooms where they have to do answered questions online to escape a room So today's Assignment is to escape a campfire. I don't know girl. I camp and ground or something We'll probably do that later on today. But one thing I want to mention you guys Even though we are homeschooling. We're very careful Comfortable excuse me. We were actually on the fence for a while about homeschooling doing just due to some things that have occurred with The things going on at JB school and so those of you who don't know who in my channel First grade was horrible at JB school. The teacher quit mid-year and we didn't really have a teacher He had three teachers for kindergarten First grade has been very interesting towards the end there I was going up to the school every week because we were having issues with bullying And also issues with him performing academically at school. He was not engaged He was bored and his teacher even admitted when I told her we were homeschooling We had decided to homeschool way back in March when I told her this she she mentioned that that is the best thing to do with JB because What did she say? She said he's such a unique child And he has a very unique way of learning that he was falling under the rate radar with her Like he was he's quiet y'all. I noticed that and when interacting at school He's quiet at school. And so he will fall back if he's not out there, you know showboating We're not necessarily showboating his personality at home is not the same at school and he's not shy But JB is an introvert He is it's really interesting to see that type of personality But he's he's an introvert. I think he is so at school. I remember once It was like mid-year. She said he says something and he says something funny I don't know what he's talking about JB is a stand-up comedian He's always saying some funny stuff But he doesn't talk at school and it's not because he's shocked cuz he even says that so I asked myself Are you shy? He's like, I'm not shy. I'm gonna you not have fun. Anyway, I'm getting way out off subject That's another miss misconception when it comes to introvert today is that people automatically assume we're shy and we're not You know some of us are but some of us aren't all of the place you guys I'm sorry But anyway, she had mentioned back in March that she think that that's a great route to go with JB But now since we're officially out of school. I know a lot of you guys are ecstatic But me homeschooling I'm preparing myself getting all the curriculum stuff together Over the course of the next few weeks because we're gonna be starting homeschooling Towards the end of August August 17th brown boy. Excellent. Yes You really have to do that right here.  These damn kids so anyway y'all um On my Facebook and I'm seeing some comments from other moms And people are basically like, you know, or is there anyone I've replied to a several Threads and I I rarely do you guys I do a lot of lurking even though my on my page I post maybe once a week or once every two weeks. I don't post a lot a lot even on my personal Facebook page So a lot of parents are concerned about what school is going to look like once their kids go back You know a couple of moms are asking is there anyone for sure? Considering homeschooling. I know there are a lot of people who are considering homeschooling but I have seen this blue diagram that basically this is Summarizing these are the CDC guidelines that is not Factual you really do need to do your research when you say we know this when you see stuff floating around on Facebook Do your own do your own research? I was pulling stuff already from the CDC directly and I've seen the CDC guidelines And from what I understand is it will be up to the state to determine what they will follow Now you guys some of the things are considering is a staggered pickup drop-off times for kids to Do partial virtual learning And then go to school some other days. What else? There won't be any outdoor recesses and big groups like that There won't be any group lunches. You will be having lunches in your classroom a lot more hand-washing and all that It's gonna look interesting now everybody family is different everyone is Their family situation is different, but for our family due to you know me being a Immune compromised due to underlying underlying health issues But even besides that just the issues we've had with JB in school Homeschooling is the raw for us regardless of what the CDC guidelines. We're gonna be okay so but I Think it's gonna be really interesting to see how things are gonna go. I don't know how How young children will be able will be able to adhere to that on the same in the same breath I'm gonna say this we have to have faith and our educators and the teachers the administrators And that our children will be resilient That means that I'm keeping my child at home my husband has his own opinions which I'm not gonna share in detail, but He didn't go into detail, but he's basically like Don't don't don't send him to school for a while like for a year like Not for a while only because of my immune system again Let me just say that because of my immune immune system And he thinks that most people who have younger kids like kindergarten age or kids that haven't built up an immune system They shouldn't even be going right now. They should stay home like homeschool if you can if you got small children under the age of five Keep them on under the age of six. Keep them home So JB has built up his immune system because he's been around but again, we don't want nothing coming home to me Right. All right, you guys so it is Thursday. Christine decided to take off today. You know, she sent me a text message What's that noise? Anyway, she sent me a text message asking me how did my water aerobics go girl. I didn't do it I told her yesterday that I was gonna work out in the swimming pools in the swimming pool. I didn't do that more organizational changes another reorg occurred And when I was on pto last week, I heard that there were some layoffs and y'all I know there is someone up there looking out for me Watching over me because when I tell you I have been saved from every type of reorg layoff. It's just truly I think got every day Thank you lord. Thank you. Thank you for being my rock. Thank you for being our provide provider jojo the genre everything so If we were under first of all, I I say this but I don't think I would have been let go But you never know nothing's guaranteed. Okay, you know every look everyone is replaceable I yeah, everyone is replaceable. I don't I can't have that mindset One of the things I've learned working in corporate America Is to place yourself in a position to where it will be difficult for them to to replace you Like when I'm out Oh, baby when I'm off work You can tell like it's let's wait till Vivian gets back. Um, I'm not sure about this. Uh, Vivian I know you're off, but can you handle this? Yeah when I was off last week I had to log on a couple of times to answer some stuff and again It doesn't mean that you know, they couldn't figure it out eventually But it was just it's quicker to come to me because I have that knowledge. I have the system knowledge I have the historical knowledge of the clients, etc. I made it brighter so y'all can see me I have been buying so many Wait, wait, wait. Give it to me child. So So many hair products. First of all, I need to I need to send her a message Busby bubs I saw an african pride, um review I had already got those products Excuse me. I had already gotten some of those products But when I saw her do the style, I'm like and then someone posted by the way wall greens was the wall greens or cvss Think it's uh, baby be careful. I think it's One of them is having a buy one get one 50% off and the products are already, you know cheap for 99 I went ahead and got the risk. I got two more products by african pride I got the detox mask coming in. I got something else from Uh, what is this? Like four more hair products coming in. I have the apogee. I feel like somebody is like, okay, give me a stop it I have the apogee. I did Curl if it I did that Texture treatment here undo that go over there and undo that Uh-oh be careful, baby. Take that tape off. I got that. I have still the vo5 I got this from ebay I'm trying to figure out. What did I order from sally's? I can't remember I think I ordered the african pride Detox mask, but I think I got that from But I I got something else from like walmart y'all Then okay, baby. I've been trying to look for go to daddy. Bye. Bye. Go to daddy. Bye. Baby. He's leaving What's up on top of all that? I was still trying to find tg. I am rose water products um Through I know they sell them through altar. She doesn't have them directly.  She but she keeps for some reason she keep thinking I'm in Dallas I'm like, no, I'm not in Dallas. So anyway, christia y'all my owner of tg. I am I need all those products, but I don't want to pay for them, but you know, you can't be that way You know, that's how black folks be they feel like since they know you they need to get the hook up um I'm not gonna be I don't do that. Even when I know someone I don't do that. So I'll go ahead and so because she sent me so many free stuff y'all like seriously Great tg. I am I was getting a lot of that stuff for free before she got into target Um Open it. You know who I will contact though. I think because her stuff is expensive. Open it. Um, what is her name? Oh god, I was keep forgetting her name. Is it jenette? Jenette The owner of chocolate kinks and curls I I I want her to send me all of her detox clays because they're expensive. They're almost 30 dollars Hold on Hold on, baby. Yeah, touch it. It's just uh, uh-huh That's my perfume store.   It's my like an 80 year old white woman. So This is JB cleaning the pool I go around and get it What is he said? Is he standing on step stool?  We are on our way to dunking donuts I'm recording you recording. We recording daddy record That is not here. Yeah, we're gonna go to dunking donuts. I'm going to um We're going to drink it down and it's the dollar tree. This is gonna be a quick It is early like when I decide to run errands doing this Epidemic pandemic, excuse me. I try to go as early as possible meaning Before nine o'clock before the crazies go out. So we're gonna go to dunking donuts real quick Then go to the dollar tree pick up a few things and then we're out I want to be home by 9 30 the latest guys and maybe I'll I'll film a chitchat video I ain't got nothing to talk about. I gotta be in the mood to film chitchat videos y'all I don't have anything to talk about So maybe I'll do like a mini chitchat video in the middle of I won't do an official chitchat video We'll talk about some stuff in the middle of this.  He sure it's gaining weight girl. We all gaining weight So look I start a new diet plan come June. I should start it next week. Let's not start June I'm going to start something next week where I have to meal prep all my meals I have to work out every day mostly hit high intensity. I have a treadmill because I'm I'm over 10 pounds at this point of gaining weight, but this is Not quarantine weight gain. This is just weight gain over the last year. I've gained about 12 pounds over the last year. So My goal is to lose 15 pounds in two months and girl I just got finished filming a video from y'all the video will probably be up before um the hair video My hair doesn't come out the way I want it to come out and so I'm gonna go get some chicken I don't know if it was the product and I'm very honest in my reviews you guys I don't know if it was the product or if something was wrong before I added the product Um, don't do that while I have this on here. It'll fall sweetheart but I'm gonna give it another try I did see two reviews for this particular line and Their hair looked just like mine and I saw someone in the comment that said that the products left her hair very dry Not only did the products leave my hair dry But it left it left it feeling stringy and heavy and I'm going to try it with I it's like a heavier leaving conditioner Because I use what did I use I use Giovanni So I will try it with a heavier leaving conditioner And I hope that that will help out because this is a mess. It's such a mess. I'm gonna It's such a mess. I'm gonna have to go ahead and wash my hair again. So anyway, y'all we'll see


What's up everyone? It's your girl, Kenzie here from Layton Sports Cards and I'm ripping a couple of personals here for Bradley B. We've got a 21-22 Panini Recon basketball hobby as well as two packs of, sorry, two bundles of five of the Panini National Sports Convention VIP Exclusive Silver Packs. All right Bradley, again these do come in lots of five so we've got your first slot. One, two, three, four, five and your second one. One, two, three, four and five. Start with the first five. Good luck. Got Peyton Manning, orange to 199, Walter Peyton. Is Caleb still here? Did he leave? Oh, I don't think he's leaving. That's what I had to say. AI, we've got Red Juan Soto to 99, 86 of 99. Ben Simmons, orange to 199, Christian Polisic. Soccer that is. And that is thrown in here, bigger names for sure, Devin Booker and Purple, Carl Anthony Towns, six of 25. One of order number one, Matt Corral Rookie. And we've got Hall of Fame to 25 private signings of John Lynch for the box. Here you go Bradley, pulling an auto out of this silver pack. Nice. Sean's got the hot hands here. Picked out your packs for you. That's the first auto I've pulled out of these. First one's the same. Yeah. Got Mack Jones and Rated Rookie to 199, Evan Mobley for the calves. Pack two. Aaron Judge and Red, Palo Banchero, 30 of 99. Jameson Williams Rookie, orange to 199, TB12. Porta Bucks, pack four. Got Justin Arribis, orange to 199, Josh Allen. Pack five. LaMelo Ball and Gold Rookie Desmond, Ritter four of 10. Nice hit Bradley. There you go. Nice gold. I love gold. All right, solid packs there. Now let's get into your recon. Cam Johnson and Maneuver, Scotty Barnes. Cumminga Rookie. Red to 199, Collin Sexton. Rock the Rim, Jalen Green. Russell Hollow, Marvin Bagley, third. Pink, Buddy Heel. Jay. Basely, we've got Rockets on the red. Glorified Signatures, Kenyon Martin Jr. Poe and Derek White. What's up Matthew? I believe we should probably get some. It's one of the higher end hockey products that I would assume we've got some of that. Sims Rookie, bronze to 299, Lou Dorts, Cameron Thomas, raw Rookie Recon. Now if we do group breaks of it or have it just for personals, I am not sure. Not completely sure on that. Bassie Rookie, bronze to 299 and Frank Simons. Sorry, Williams Rookie Recon. Well, let's see why we wouldn't get any of that. Hollow Tim Duncan, Pink Tim Hardaway Jr. What's up Friday, yeah? Aldama Rookie, purple to 49, Norman Powell. Maneuvers, James Harden. I'm sure Forrest will love to rip some of that. He's the hockey guy. Sexton, Joanne Washington Jr. Rookie, Hollow AD and future legends, Ayodo Suma. Yeah, check back in Friday though for sure. We got a redemption. Jared Butler, Rookie Hollow and all systems go jammer rants. All right, Bradley, let's see what this redemption is. Good luck. We've got Chris Paul, Jersey, autographs, gold, card number four. There you go, Bradley, on the CP3. That is sick. On the gold. We'll mag that redemption for you. Congrats on that. Thanks again, and we'll get this right out to you.


You don't care about animals? I don't care about animals. I've got a million chickens die on the way to the slaughterhouse in the UK. A million. I don't care about animals. Some people don't care. Some people don't care. I eat protein. I need protein. Oh! I know what they're doing. They're like... They fall over and they lay in their own urine feces and it burns their bodies. I don't need one. No, no. We've got something for you, though. He doesn't even want it now. He just walked up. Alright, I'm Joey Carpstrong. I'm back with VFC. We're in Birmingham. We're at the front of Nando's. And we're doing something a little cheeky this time. I'm posing as a market researcher and we've renamed their famous Piri Piri Sources to something a little closer to reality. We're just asking people what they think of our new source names and you get free chicken in return. Good? Why are you looking suspicious here? Do you want us to see what we're changing our source names to? We would love to see. Would you like to know the truth about the sources? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so we're changing the name from Plain to Imprisoned because most of the birds here in Big Factory Farms about 50,000 in one shed. They only have about an A4 size sheet of paper in terms of space. 50,000 birds in a shed. Like over 95% of these chickens are factory farmed. So we're changing Plain source to Imprisoned because they're Imprisoned in factory farms in the UK. Is that what that company gets the chickens from? You know what? All chicken here in the UK come from places like this. What's the deal? So Nando's got a terrible history with cage tents. Not Nando's? All chicken in the UK? All of it? Yeah, all of it. This is not just Nando's. This is all chickens in the UK. The vast, vast, vast majority of them, they're doing this. There's not. It's like a bar for someone from a nice farm shop named Ian. It's all one farm. Really, on the farm? The vast majority of the chicken here is factory farmed. Yeah, super. Yeah, and then with bird flu, they're all indoors anyway. So no matter where you get chicken from the shop, from the butcher, they're all coming from factory farms. Or mild, we're going to rename to mutilated because they get their beets, see it off with their laser here and it's pretty terrible for them. Why? Oh, yeah, why? So they don't pick each other in confinement. So they take off the top of their beak, cut off with a laser. Three chickens. That's not halal. Factory farmed chickens go to a Halal slaughterhouse and they put a Halal stamp on it. This is lemon and herb. We're changing to lesions and burns. How do you reckon they get those? It's a lesion. Like this here, like scab, lesion. They get burned because they're laying down on the urine and feces on the floor, ammonia. What do you think of that name? I think it makes me feel like I'm going to be eating lesion. Does it? Lesions and burns? Because they fall over and they're laying their own urine and feces and it burns their bodies. I don't need one. No, no, we've got something for you, though. Take it. He doesn't even want it now. He just walked off. This is legit, eh? This is legit? Well, this is legit. Yeah, this is actually a photo of a chicken. Instead of a lemon and herb, we've got lesions and burns. I know, it's terrible. Instead of mango and lime, we've got mangled and lain. They grow so fast these days they can't support their own body weight. You go on this farm, I've been in plenty of these farms, by the way. You see them laying on their back or laying down on their face and their legs splayed out. I've walked in these sheds, when we do investigations, you walk through and every few meters you see them just like this laying down.  Because they grow so fast now, their bodies, their little bones don't... Can't support the weight. Yep. And they just collapse in there. A lot of them collapse, they splay their legs open. And they're dying.  Okay. People want the big, juicy leg drumsticks and that's why they increase their growth through selective breeding and feeding. This is where a lot of the meat's coming from now. The vast majority of chicken comes from places like this. Statistically, it's over 95%, but I honestly think it's all of it. Mmm, okay. Because of the injections? They don't get injections, but they're just selectively bred to grow really fast. In America, they do that, they give them injections. Yeah, not here, but they're just super big. They do grow four times faster than they did in the 50s. Instead of hot, we got hot and suffering. They suffer in the heat of the sheds on the trucks on the way to the slaughterhouse. The sheds get hot ventilation problems and they die on the sheds, floors or suffer on the way to the slaughterhouse. But a million chickens die on the way to the slaughterhouse in the UK. A million. And they talk about humane slaughter here.   You can't walk anywhere in there. And instead of extra hot, we've got electrocuted and slaughtered. Gosh, I saw the electric chair. Extra hot, electrocuted and slaughtered. Or, you know, they mostly get gassed.  And even the one from your farm shop, they get, you don't like seeing slaughter. No, no, no, no, no, no. Gas slaughtered. They put in a gas chamber and then they're out slashed. And those are not cheap. Oh, I don't know. Strong word to use there, come on. Oh, but a gas chamber is a gas chamber, right? The victims are different. The main method is gassing. That's not cool. You don't mind getting their throat slit? First, not so much because it's not instant. How did I kill them at the farm shop? I'm not sure, I'd have to ask. So you don't have to cut the throat. And there's about a billion chickens be slaughtered every year. And let's keep it in software. That is so mean, what funny. Oh, I know what they're doing. They're lying. You're trying to do the whole thing. Think about chicken and all that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Look, animal cruelty and all that. Hungry. Yeah, you're hungry, but do you want to eat?  I'm all right. What's wrong with you? You taste good though. How about this? You know that. You know that. You're onto it. You know these days what it's about. You only seen it now though, because now you know, yeah? So what do you think about new source names? They're dark. They're dark and interesting. Interesting, like, do you think they're accurate? Yeah. They're quite accurate, but they're quite interesting. Do you think they're going to encourage people or... No, I feel like they're going to scare them away. What do you think? New names. Do you think they're closer to reality? Yeah. Do you think they're good? More aware. More awareness? I think it's accurate. It's more accurate? I don't think it will get you many sales. You don't think Nando's getting many sales if they're more honest? No. I think not with the source names. You know what? That might dampen a few sales here and there, you know, of all the people that are keeping open mind about this kind of stuff. At the same time, it's very eye-opening. So what do you think? Really good for awareness. I'm not sure it's going to make me want to eat it. It's not good for business. You know what I mean? Like, I'm going to probably not buy anything if I'm thinking that that's what the chickens are going through, that I'm eating. What do you reckon? Do you reckon we should change the names? Be more accurate? Yeah, might as well get away with it, though. I feel bad for wanting one now, though. Yeah. Because you're disconnected from this whole process. I used to work there, haven't I? Whereabouts at Nando's? In Tamafima. Yeah, right. I thought we're supposed to eat animals. Well, yeah, every now and then. With the mangled and lame. I'm not sure people would like that. But this is, I've been in factory farms and this is what you see everywhere. You see birds laying down like this everywhere. I think we should still eat chicken. Why? But just not suffering them like that. That's why lab-grown meats should be good. Either they're in lab-grown meats or chicken dots. Well, actually, we've got a solution right now. You'd have to wait for lab-grown meat. You've got vegan fried chicken. Hand them around. Pass them around. You want to take them all? Yeah, take those into ours that you're good for free. So, why should I buy from Nando's? Well, we've got a kinder alternative here if you would like. I wouldn't know. Free vegan chicken. Okay. So no chickens are abused and used. So you won't feel guilty eating that. Thanks, yeah. All right, see you later. But we do have some free chicken for you. Oh, God, don't ever want it now. It's not real. It's not real. This is vegan chicken, bro. Oh, for us, still. We wouldn't be giving you chicken. I was thinking, you can't be eating that after a lot. You can't get your mobiles, mate. But you won't feel guilty eating that, eh? Yeah. Peace, brother. Take care. Do you want to try some, brother? No, because you've got to put me off. No, no, we're not going to give real chicken out. We're giving vegan chicken out, brother. Okay. All right. This one here's not no chickens involved. Take it home, chuck it in the oven, and then you've got a guilt-free option. Don't have to worry about this. Don't worry about vegans. This is for us. But we're still giving out free chicken? Real chicken or vegan chicken. Well, we wouldn't give out real chickens, would we? Because then we'd be hypocrites, wouldn't we? We've got vegan chicken. Yeah, we're not interested. You only want to eat these chickens? Yeah. I feel like you need to be showing this to the staff. The staff, but the staff don't know, do they? Not just Jack Norfolk. But they only sell it to the consumer. But what about this? What you shouldn't have done is got me over with all the kids. What about this? But we... I could agree with you. How about this? I'm going to give you a present then. Here. This is vegan chicken. Easy, easy, easy. There's no chicken involved in this, so this is vegan. It's vegan fried chicken. No one had to die. Well, get slaughtered, that's for sure. Peace, brother. Treat them as you should like. They basically all come from places like this here. If you look at the statistics... So where does that lead you? I don't know. I'll tell you where it leaves you. We've got some vegan chicken. Oh. That's vegan. Yeah, try it. It's not the right way. It's not the right way. What shall we do next time? I think... I agree with you. What shall we do next time? I don't know. Be against it openly. Let us see that you're against it. I thought you would have known by the first source that we were... What our game was, and we thought we would give you some vegan chicken instead. As a little present. Go back now, sir. You could have had better things.  You thinking that you can actually like stop everyone from eating chicken and sort in animals in this way. That's not gonna happen. I don't know. Because you can't stop all the war either in the world. We're humans.  It's just how it goes. And there's no other humane way of sort in them. What about this? What about this? We've got some shumane option here. Do you want it? It's halal as well. This is how you shumane chicken you can get. It's vegan chicken. VFC is free too. Thank you. Oh, thanks. Thank you so much. It's really tasty. Enjoy. That's one of the best I've had. Really good. Put it in the oven. Amazing. Thank you. We've got one for everyone here. Yeah, thank you. VFC, you can hand them out. Enjoy. Thank you. See you later. What do you think is better for the birds? For the birds. I think this is best. Yeah. It is best. Well, enjoy the kind of choice. It's not chicken. It's really good. This is vegan chicken. What about this way? You can still have chicken. But it's vegan. It's free. It's free. It's free. Here you go. Did that reach you then? Me? Oh, I don't care. Kill whoever. You don't care about the chickens? I'll just get meat for you. You do? Try the vegan meat. Seriously, give it a go. Have an open mind. That's true. Have an open mind, brother. You never know, you might like it. Teddy, you'll give out more. I don't even know why we're arguing anymore. I think we're friends now. I thought we're friends. You've got free chicken. Now we're all... Why not?  Exactly. So if we call it chicken, the people who want chicken will go for that instead. It's not true, though. Yeah, but it's vegan chicken. It's not true, though. But it's vegan chicken. But it's not chicken. I'd be real. Yeah, you do. But you don't... You don't respect that, though, eh? I respect you. Halao as well, they come from... In England? Factory farms as well. This is vegan chicken. You can guarantee this is Halao. Don't call it chicken. If you're going to stand by it, how can you call it? But we removed the E, so it's chicken with an N. It's apostrophe N. So there's not actually chicken with an E. It's apostrophe. It's chicken. Honestly. You don't care about chickens? I'm against chickens. Animals in a cruel way. But they're eating of chickens. Eating of chickens. What about the... Are you about to set that up? What about the raising the animals? You don't want to eat chicken now. No, because I was just going to hear what you were saying. Yeah. About cussing and then all that. Mutilating the birds and... And dying it like... Like being their thesis. Not like genuinely, if there's one food, I'll never leave them. I like this chicken. Did you even take some free chicken? Vegan chicken? No, but vegan chicken... It doesn't bang the same. It doesn't bang the same. It doesn't bang the same. I like that. It doesn't bang. Look at this. Look at this chicken here. And I'll look at that. Do you think this is justified? I don't really care. You don't care about animals? I don't care about animals. I don't care. Some people don't care. Some people don't care. I eat protein. I need protein. Do you care about animals? I do care about animals. I take great care of the ones that I have. I try my best. And I don't eat them. Some people don't care about animals, but we only want to talk to people that do care because there's no point trying to convince people that don't care. Do you care about these birds? Do you care about...  Do you know what I mean? I was listening to what you were saying. Do you know what I mean? Because my parents are from Jamaica. When we go back to Jamaica, all the birds are free in free range, all the chickens and stuff. So what do you think about, like, killing a bird that's free? Do you think that's an ethical thing to do? I think it's ethical. But people like... You've got a choice, haven't you, if you want to eat meat or not? I mean, just you personally. Me personally. I eat meat personally, but my girlfriend's a vegetarian. So I'm kind of like... There's a bit of struggle going on. Do you feel right about the cutting the chicken set off just eating? No, I don't actually. I don't feel good about it either. I wouldn't slander. I just don't think based on that. It's not slander, it's reality. They just don't advertise to the people. You should be fighting with the people that are abusing the animals, really. Not us. We're just trying to give free chicken to people. I was listening to what I was saying. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I was listening to what you were saying. It makes sense. Yeah. But you see, because my girlfriend's a vegetarian, that's what she's against. You know, the slotting of animals is free. Well, they get slaughtered in the egg and dairy industry. She should be vegan. I'm a vegan for now 10 years. Yeah, nearly 10 years. So I'll have to... And the Rossifarians are vegan. You know, Rossifarians? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I think, personally, it's the wrong way about it. Show me your soul, me. Are you going to come and do some activism with me then? But... Next time. Do it the right way. You don't want it. You don't want it, but you care about animals. So maybe you can try the vegan. Did you get some vegan chicken? Do you want some vegan chicken to take with you? Maybe rescue a lot of animals. Do you? Yeah. That's good. Yeah. Do you think animals are rescued? Would you think I cared about them? I wouldn't care. It's illegal. I wouldn't care, because you can't save me. I know you don't care. If you ate a cat, you'd go to prison. I don't go to prison for eating a chicken. And that's just life in England. It's bad life for the chicken though, isn't it? It's bad life for the chickens, isn't it?  You should go vegan, brother. That's right. It's hard. I see what I think, but... Start with the VFC. No worries, brother. But we can be vegan. You can't put vegan when you're vegan. I'm not bothering you. I was just giving you free chicken. Don't do standos. Don't do standos. Use all food. We do advocate against all of it. It's just standos. All of it. But we're doing standos today. We'll be at KFC tomorrow if you want to come by. We'll give you more.


Live from Las Vegas, it's theCUBE. Cover EMC World 2016, brought to you by EMC. Now your host, John Furrier. Okay, welcome back everyone. We are here live in Las Vegas for EMC World 2012. I'm John Furrier, the founder of SiliconANGLE and host of theCUBE. And we are extracting the signal from noise. And one of our traditions at EMC World is to do a conversation and panel discussion around women of the world, with Stella Lowe, who is VP of Global Communications for EMC, and Susan Tardinico, who is the founder and CEO of Authentic Leadership. Stella, every year we do this, it's one of my favorite things. As we wrap up EMC World, soon it may be Dell World or Dell EMC, whatever that kind of turns into. I wish you can't comment because you're communications. Is to talk about kind of the human side of what's going on. And the theme for EMC World is modernization of enterprise, infrastructure speed, performance, scalability. And you've taken this theme this year with women of the world to modernizing your career in an era of change. And tell me about what that was this year. Yeah, absolutely, John. So we're in this tech industry is changing all the time. But right now we're in this kind of unprecedented change. There's going to be a lot of consolidations is the thinking over the next two years. A lot of people find, a lot of companies finding their dance partners. In some ways we've already found our dance partner, which is Dell, but there's going to be a lot of that going on. And there's definitely a lot of change happening here at EMC. So we wanted to make sure that we were focusing on how to own, modernize and direct your career within this sea of tremendous change. So Susan, I want to get your take on this because we are living as the theme of the show is, is a transformation happening? Which means there's certainly change. And there's big bets being made in the business that requires people process and technology transformation. People's a big part of it. And people have to be bold. There's some gambling, there's some bets. And with that will come maybe some missteps or some failures. And how you can overcome that will define ultimately your success to take maybe little failures, not big failures, but like, but this is part of the evolution of innovation. You are so right. How does that affect people? Specifically women as they're in this now converge workforce, men and women coming together. What's your thoughts on this? Well, men and women alike, change is hard, right?  It's requiring people of all levels and in all fields, but particularly in the world of technology to completely redefine their skill sets, their relevance, the way they're going to actually help sort of step into this new era of digital technology. So it's causing, you know, ripple effects of reinvention and change all over the place. And, you know, we all relate to changes human beings at a very personal level. What does it mean for me? And so a big part of what we discussed today at the conference was just how do you sort of lean into that change? And how can you begin to look at your own potential and your own skill sets from with a different lens? You know, we tend to box ourselves in as far as our potential goes. We say, okay, I've been in this functional area for all of my career. So I guess my opportunities sit squarely in this box. And we talked a lot about the value of sort of reinventing and taking a hard look at our transferable skill sets. So the attributes that we have as human beings that could let be leveraged into other roles or expanded roles and the skill sets that have made us so successful in what we're doing today. So how might we bust that open and find new opportunities in this world of change? And it's really important that we do it now. I mean, it was announced just a few days ago that in 2015, there were 359 new CEOs announced in the top 2,500 companies around the world. Only 10 were women, John. 10, 10 out of 359, it's shocking. So if we're going to reverse that trend, we've got to start reversing that right from now.  But what is it? What is surprising that there's less women learning about tech now or learning, you know, in tech education now than there was in the 80s. I mean, so we've got to really got to grapple with this and change the course of this and women have got to start taking responsibility for their own careers and their own direction. Well, what are some of the stories that you've heard this week at your event? As you guys talk with each other, what are some of the common patterns and stories that you're hearing? So we're certainly hearing from the women in the room, but they see that the impending change as exciting, as an opportunity, but there's also some anxiety around that change. There's definitely fear there. That's what we're seeing. You know, people need to take that fear and use it as a catalyst for positive change. Right, right. I mean, people tend to shut down when they're in environments of fear. And one of the things that we talked a great deal about was how do you sort of turn that around and use that as a catalyst to take stock in not only sort of what your inherent capabilities are, but your vision for your life and the values that you hold dear and say, okay, so if my job serves my life, then what is my end game and what steps and choices can I make? You know, putting myself back in the driver's seat versus letting this change that's sort of at both the macro level and the micro level like sweet me under and create a sort of a victim mentality. We talked a lot about sort of that empowerment and the accountability to sort of take charge of your own destiny. Yeah. It's interesting, you mentioned leaned in earlier. So Cheryl Sandberg's in my community in Palo Alto, Facebook friend, you know, where I'm involved a lot with some Facebook stuff. And I've been following her lean in. And I want to bring this up as you mentioned the word fearless. You know, I've been called fearless. You're fearless. That's a guy thing, right? Guys can be fearless. Is it okay for women to be fearless? And is lean in a fearless kind of vibes? It's not so much, I don't want to get semantically tied on fearless, but this brings up a point that people get stuck on the semantics, but that kind of is a biased thing. Be more fearless and you'll get ahead versus lean in is a guest could be construed as a female version of fearless. The words matter, but at the same day, how does a woman become fearless? And does it matter? Yeah, so the other speaker that we had on the panel today, we were very lucky also to have Reshma Sajani. And she has founded the company Girls Who Code. And she says that women were brought up to be perfect, whereas boys were brought up to be brave. So it's okay for a boy to climb a tree and go to the top with girls. We're like, no, no, sit in the chair, but pretty, be nice, but be perfect. And so women are very scared to go into areas that don't know because they're worried about making mistakes. And what we were trying to get over today was imperfection is okay. It's okay to make mistakes. It's okay to, you know, and you've got to kind of get over that fear to do that. And it's the attribute, Susan. So a woman and a man, they have different attributes. So maybe fearless might, oh, he's fearless, he climbs to the top of the tree. But every attribute in a diverse environment can contribute to a common outcome that makes it better. I mean, that's kind of the theme that I'm seeing. It's true. Fearlessness in, you say, words matter. The concept is kind of the same. We talked a lot about self confidence and the contrast in the sexes when it comes to self confidence. And then so many women seem to sort of stop short of having that self confidence to step out and you say be fearless, to take risk, to just sort of seize that moment and say, you know what, if it doesn't work out, I can choose again. We just seem to stop short of being able to do that where guys seem to be a little bit more comfortable and part of it is the way we're raised, you know, women to be perfect. And we tend to be very, very quiet about those failures. And so it kind of sends that message, like I really need to stay away from those arenas where I just, I might not be a stunning success. So there was some discussion around men versus women and the imposter syndrome, which tends to afflict a lot of women, particularly women in business where we kind of doubt our own worth as a leader, as a professional. And there's this fear that, you know, at some point we're going to be found out that we're really not as good as others around us think we are. And that drives a certain kind of behavior in the workplace. So, you know, workaholism, perfectionism, procrastination, just so afraid to make a mistake and be found out. So, you know, that seems to be more characteristic of females than males. There are just a lot of, there's a lot of complexity around females. Well actually a lot of guys that are faking it that will be found out and maybe there's a thing there. But modernizing your career though, that's the theme. What is the pattern that, what does that mean? I mean, how do you talk to that? Because everyone wants, I mean, who doesn't want to be modern, right? And we're in a modern era, we want to be hip, we want to be cool, we want to advance. So okay, advancement means you're climbing a ladder, you're trying something new, which means you will fall and stumble, we all stumble when we learn. Is that part of the modernization is dealing with the environment and the change and the failure? Yeah, it is. In fact, the first thing that we talked about was the need to be incredibly strategic in this environment. We're business people. And when facing any business challenge, you tend to do scenario planning, right? You say, well, if this happens, here's my strategy. If that happens, here's my strategy. So you say worst case, best case, likely case. And when you start to develop strategies around how you're going to navigate those things, it gives you additional power and confidence to sort of move forward in your redefinition. So that's sort of that first step in modernizing your career. We also talked a bit ago about understanding where you might have some self-limiting beliefs about where you might play. What arena where you might sit.  Definitely, I mean, women will look at a job spec and have a completely different perspective from men. So men will look at it and they'll say, well, I can do about 38% of this. So I'm going to go for this job. Women will look at it unless they can do 85% of it or they've done, they have experience in 85% of it, they won't even go for the job. So we have to start to really broaden our view of the types of jobs we can go for, the types of opportunities we can go for and start to think more, much more openly. So be more aggressive on the job, applicants was one. Yeah, broaden your horizons, think about the transferable skill sets that you have that you can take into other areas and don't be fearful of things that you haven't done before. So I had a public failure startup that was very funded and then there's a public failure and it's traumatizing and I dealt with that and this whole failure is rewarded in Silicon Valley. That's BS in my opinion. People tolerate failure but they love the comeback. That's part of learning is coming back. And so I had to deal with that and I dealt with it in my own way as a guy but there's a post in Silicon Valley going around today around a woman who failed and she didn't know whether she should be vulnerable or just be that, what do you call it, the imposter syndrome, fake it till you make it. And she was saying, no, I want to be vulnerable because what she found is by being vulnerable people were helping her. So that brings up the concept of vulnerability, male, female and two, in the modern world we have social networks now. So leaning is a great example of some gravity around peer groups. Can you guys talk about that? Does that come up at all on your radar in terms of the dynamic there around men versus women being vulnerable versus being strong? And also the notion of networks and how that could be supporting. Well I think vulnerability is often tied to shame and that fear of shame causes people to hold back in sharing their real stories. You said something very important and that's that people care about what you've learned along the way. They don't necessarily care about what you know, they care about what you've learned. Most people are comfortable talking about what they've learned when they're on the other side of that. So it's not in the middle of that failure. When you are just feeling horrible, you're feeling like a failure, you're feeling embarrassed, you're feeling shame. So the ability to kind of step up to that is it's a tall order. Now, you talked about social networks. In this environment of social media, authenticity is so important, right? So it's that happy balance. If you're not all that comfortable with being completely naked in that vulnerability, maybe there's a happy medium where you can share some of the challenges and things that you've been facing while not necessarily going all the way down to the bare nub of it. I think we're in the middle of an evolution, right? So authenticity will track the right alchemy of help or relationship as a way to signal to people. And I guess, I mean, I love this concept.   So this brings to the next one. So, okay, so that's cool. I love that theme. I love this topic because that really helps you get through to the other side. And getting to the other side, you're on the comeback. That's a learning, what you've learned and applying what you've learned is a growth mindset. Now, there's a lot of women my age, I'm 50, that have gone through the ranks and they get up to the top and you mentioned the numbers aren't that significant on the seed level of women. It's lonely. Yet they're being asked to be mentors down to the new generation of ladies coming up or women. But they're lonely at the top. How do they deal with that? As you're moving closer to the top. Have you, do you talk about that? It is lonely at the top. And I, like Stella, I was a senior executive at a big company and found that loneliness to be quite palpable, right? It's part of the choice you make to be in that arena. Stepping up to that position of leadership, it often means that you're distancing yourself. You're more concerned with being respected than you are being liked. And there's a new game, right? New parameters around your relationships. Like CEOs who find solace in their peer relationships. I think that same goes for women. You need to actively cultivate your formal and informal networks. They may be with peers outside of your company, outside of your functional area. Those relationships though are so important because you can become isolated and insulated. People may not always come to you with the truth. And so making sure that you keep those lines of communication and mutual support open is really pivotal. Now you mentioned mentorship. I think it is incumbent on senior women to reach down and find opportunities to mentor other women and sponsor other women. You know there's mentorship and sponsorship and both are crucial in terms of sort of direct feedback and developmental advice on the mentorship side. But then sponsorship, literally, actively opening doors for other women and reaching a hand and helping them come up too. Because that's often where we find a gap. People think I had to claw my way up. It was a lot of work. So I'm just going to sort of protect myself and hang out and let everybody else kind of go on their own journey. We talked a lot today about the need to sort of reach down and help other women along. So the takeaway there is develop your formal, informal networks. That's a foundational, really critical linchpin to the whole success. Yeah, absolutely. What about now, as we look at the progression going forward, the skill development. You mentioned the job applications. A lot of these jobs that are going to come in the next Industrial Revolution, as Michael Dell was pointing out, don't even exist today. So there might be an opportunity here as we look to the future. Did that come up at all on the radar of your sessions? Well, I think it comes back to really transferable skill sets. You need to take a look at what you do and who you are, bring it up a level. Because I got to tell you, if you can manage well in ambiguity, if you can lead and motivate people. I mean, there are certain attributes that pick the job. If you have those attributes and those skills, you can learn a discipline. But those inherent leadership skills are going to pay off a big time as this industry continues to redefine. And as you say, jobs that we don't even know exist yet suddenly come onto the table. What surprises you the most in the conversation around modernization? As you talk with folks out there, what's a trend that surprised you that you kind of knew about, but oh my God, it's really more acute or more explosive in a good way or in a bad way? Anything you can share, I think, to literally like, wow, this is really more pressing than I thought or this is actually more amazing than I thought. Yeah, one of the things that Reshman talked about is women supporting other women.  And female bosses can be harder on female employees and so on. And I think there's got to be that kind of sisterhood around all of us women. Bring women up, as Susan has said, support other women. Make sure that you are watching their back and they are watching yours. And it will help with the loneliness factor, but it also helps to bring women forward. And I think that's always a surprise to me that women don't want to do that and that they don't want to get involved in that. We should be paying that back and paying it forward. Is there anything that surprised you looking back at, and then the conversation here? I think I would echo what Stella said. It's important to understand the role you may be playing in the plight that faces you. So, you know, we talk about women sometimes being their own worst enemy and trying to, again, modernize and redefine what that relationship looks like and what that success looks like and how accountable we each are for, you know, moving forward and pushing the envelope. Okay, final question. If you guys could each answer, this would be great. What advice would you give the people watching here live and then on demand? Things that they could do to modernize their career in this change. Advice that you can surface and share insight around their opportunity. Things that they could do differently or new or... Yeah, I'll let Susan have the last word on this because she'll have some fabulous advice. But, you know, one thing I would say is be comfortable in your imperfection. You don't have to be perfect. Go for it. Widen your sphere of opportunities and, you know, chart your way and dream bigger. And if you dream bigger, you'll get somewhere bigger. Very good. I would say first and foremost, one of the best things that you can do is challenge some of the beliefs that you might hold about what your potential next steps or career path might be. Get clear on what your end game is for your life and what your values are because that becomes a very important lens to which to view future opportunity. Get really clear that you can always choose again. I think this fear of making a mistake and that you talked about fearlessness. You know, I think people tend to limit their opportunities because they think, wow, if I make this choice and it's a mistake, then I'm done. But you can just turn around and make a new choice and begin again. And there are limitless choices that you can make. So a lot of this I find is mindset related. You know, we're heading into, we are in a highly turbulent time. It's going to continue. We need to be agile in our thinking. Part of that is getting grounded in who we are and what our potential could be. Getting clear on what we want because our jobs serve our life, not the other way around. And really sort of getting into the driver's seat versus letting whatever the change is, whether it's up here at the industry consolidation level or whether it's down in, whether we're in the middle of a merger or we've just gotten a new boss that we don't particularly click with, we can default to a victim mentality. So part of this is just saying, you know what? I am going to pick this thing up and I am going to manage through the change myself. We are living in a world where there's great opportunities, women of the world, great segment. Thank you so much, Stella. We thank you so much, Susan. Really great to have you guys sharing your insight here on theCUBE. Congratulations again. Always my favorite conversation. I learned a lot. And I love, I feel like I'm learning so much. And this is a world of diversity and it's great. And the outcome of diversity is fantastic. I think that's what everyone's seeing. So congratulations on the great work. This is theCUBE here at EMC World 2016. I'm John Furrier, you're watching theCUBE. Looking back at the history of...