Henry Seigerman is a geometric topologist who is a professor at Oklahoma State. And he's become one of the great proponents of mathematical art, and he has a book to prove it. He came out this year visualizing mathematics with 3D printing. He's given some wonderful presentations at PCMI in past years, and as you all know, he's been leading a 3D printing workshop in this virtual reality, no, non-Euclidean virtual reality demo on the past few evenings, and he will do one more 3D printing workshop this evening. Thank you very much, Henry, for coming to talk to us. All right, thanks, Rafe, and thanks all for coming. So I'm going to give, so this is a talk sort of in two parts, and I should say, I mean, in terms of the level, this does occasionally go into some sort of higher level mathematics with geometric topology, but it will pass very quickly, and there's lots of different things and lots of pictures, so stick around. So the first part of this talk is about the question of a specific question of how do you visualize a particular kind of mathematical thing. In particular, it's how do you visualize topological objects? How do you tell a computer to make a model of something topological, and of course the problem is that topology doesn't have precise geometry, it's floppy, but you need very precise geometry to give to the 3D printer. And then the second half of the talk will sort of devolve into here are some interesting projects and the sort of mathematics that went into it. Okay, so let's get started sort of how do you 3D print things? So there's a very common problem that comes up whenever you're trying to print something mathematical, in this case, this is supposed to be a knot, and the problem is that the knot is one-dimensional, but in order to print anything, it has to be three-dimensional, it has to contain volume, otherwise there's nothing there to print. And so there's a perennial problem, the first problem you always come up with, how do I thicken something up in order to make it have thickness so that it can be 3D printed? So the easy, I don't know how I'm going to keep this on my ear, I'll do what I can. So the easy thing to do here is to just put a pipe around this, have some radius and then you produce a tube around this curve, and then you can 3D print it, and you can line up your photograph of your 3D print with your virtual version of the image and wait until people are suitably impressed because it's not easy to do this. There'll be more opportunities to be impressed. Here's another example, so this is a graph in space. It's a little hard to see from just this what the graph is, if I thicken it up, maybe you can see a little bit more easily, and here's the metal version. I'm always, so whenever I give this talk, I'm always sort of curious to see if people know what this structure is, what is this an illustration of? This is less commonly known to mathematicians, but maybe more commonly known to chemists. Any guesses of what this is? Ice, that's very close, it's not ice. Salt, it's actually the molecular structure of diamond. So you've got your four carbon atoms and they have their connections out to their four neighbors. Okay, so great, moving from one dimensional objects to two dimensional objects, here's a hyperbolic paraboloid. And you might think, okay, well, you should just thicken in exactly the same way. You just thicken up sort of moving in the normal direction to make a thicken surface. I actually prefer to do something like this instead, so to put holes in it. And so there's maybe three reasons for this. First of all, it's cheaper, you're using less material and it'll print quicker. Second, it sort of lets you see through, right? There's a sort of transparency to this, it's not just a blank, flat surface you can't see through. And third, it lets you show something about the surface. In this case, it's showing the slices going in the XZ plane or the YZ plane, it's showing the contours that you see. And there's a 3D printed version. So the Swinburne Institute of Technology in Melbourne, Australia had a whole bunch of money left over at the end of the financial year. And so they had me design these quadric surfaces, these large quadric surfaces for use in their multivariable calculus classes. You'll see next to them, there's these much smaller versions, which are equally useful for teaching, but much cheaper. So I actually use these models of quadric surfaces when I'm teaching multivariable calculus. And so here's this hyperbolic paraboloid.  And so this really helps sort of seal, visualize how do the contours, as you slice through different Z values, give you the surface. Okay, so far I've been talking mostly about algebraically defined objects. There's some equation that determines the curve or the surface. And so as I said before at the start, this is a problem when you've got a topological object. For example, the knot at the very start, you have to choose some geometry. So how do you choose that? Well, okay, maybe you don't have to choose the geometry. You can print something that's flexible, and then you don't have to worry about what the geometry is going to be. The 3D print somehow has the topological choice inside of it. But ignoring this possibility, what do you do? And so there's maybe three or four different strategies for how do you actually get some shape? How do you generate geometry? So, and I'll show some examples of these different strategies. So the manual strategy, whatever you've got available, whatever design software you have, you use that somehow with the user interface to build something. And you're not worrying too much about the precise geometry, you're just building something.  If you want to draw some diagram on the board, that's sort of the manual strategy. But it's the same sort of thing, maybe you've got, instead of just trying to draw your not freehand, maybe you generate in some two dimensional computer programs some parametric or implicit description of the object that you're building. So, both 3D and 2D. So okay, so first, just the manual strategy. Second, you have some parametric or implicit description of the shape. Or third, you have some iterative method that converges to some shape that's trying to optimize some value. So I'll show some examples of these. These are three trefoil knots that were generated using these three different strategies. So here's the first one. So this is cubic trefoil knot pendant by somebody called Vertigo Polka. So I put this in the manual category because this is a simple enough shape that you could just build it inside of your 3D software. But this has a lot of mathematical interest nonetheless. So one of the things that knot theorists sometimes think about is stick number of a knot. So how many straight line segments do you need in order to generate a version of that knot? And this is a little bit more restrictive still. Straight line segments, but this time the straight lines have to be along the x, y, or z axes. And I believe this is the minimal number of sticks you need in order to make this trefoil. OK, so that's an example of a manually generated trefoil. Here are some parametrically generated trefoils. I'll go into sort of similar parametrizations, but there's some trigonometric things you can do. You can imagine to generate these sort of looping curves. And then I'm going to show you a couple of examples of different trefoils that are generated by iterative methods. So this trefoil is from a program called Knotplot by Robert Schallian. And what's really going on underneath this shape here is that there are a bunch of points that are connected by sticks. And I believe these sticks are fixed length, but the points you sort of imagine they have electric charges on them. And so they're trying to get away from their neighbors. And so what happens here is you start with some shape of this. I don't actually know what shape it starts with. And then it sort of tries to relax down to minimize the amount of energy that it's got and try and get the electrons to be as far apart from each other as possible. Here's a different strategy for making a shape, in this case the trefoil. This is a minimal rope length trefoil by Jason Cantorella and various collaborators at University of Georgia. So again, where did this shape come from? So I'll show you another picture that sort of made me easier to understand, which is this one. So the difference between these two is just that one has half the radius of the tube of the other. So this is a trefoil knot that's been pulled tight as tightly as possible. So again, you start with some shape of the trefoil and then you gradually, using some computer simulation, you reduce the length of the rope as much as you can without letting it crash into itself. And then this is just with half the radius that lets you see more easily what the shape is. And so there's a subfield of, well, this kind of geometric topology where people try and prove the minimal rope length versions of various knots and links. And it's very difficult to prove precise results about, this is simulation, so they guess that the optimal is close to this, but there's no proof of these sorts of things. Okay, and I will be remiss if I didn't mention Laura Talman is at James Madison University. These are results from, I think this was a summer research program she had with a small class. And so one of the ideas of the class was, look at these papers on various ideas and knot theory and then make a visualization, a three-dependent visualization, of the idea from that paper. So this again is the cubic stick number. This is the stick number. If you don't require that things are on the XYZ axes, you can do this in six, one, two, three, four, five, six. And then there's various other versions of truffles here. I think this may be the minimal rope length truffle. Okay, so which of these things is best and which one should you be using to visualize something to make an effective visualization? And so really this is an aesthetic choice, but I think it's worth remembering that as mathematicians, most of what we do is in some sense driven by aesthetic choices. The problems that we work on, we think that they're beautiful, other people are interested in them, these are also aesthetic choices. And so it's not that different from what I'm doing here in this side of my life. And the sort of criteria you can bring to say, which of these different ways is a good way to draw a picture of a truffle? I think you can sort of have similar ideas to the mathematical ideas. So here are my proposals for good ways to make choices for how you make some topological model or some geometric model of a topological object. So the first thing is you should make as few choices as possible. You don't wanna be making extraneous choices if you don't have to. You would like there to be a single best one. And the second is that you should be as faithful as possible to the object that you're trying to represent. If it has certain symmetries, your model should have those symmetries and so on. And really these, I mean, this is another way of getting to I want a canonical geometric structure associated to my topological object. And so in some sense, this is in the same thread of a lot of the past few decades in geometry and topology, you know, taking a topological object and then finding canonical geometric structures. And once you have such a canonical geometric structure, there's a very clean path from the mathematics, the mathematical ideas over to a physical object that illustrates it.  If you have a canonical structure, a canonical mathematical structure, then you should hopefully be able to easily convert that from a mathematical idea into an accurate computer model because you can code it up. Well, a canonical geometric structure you hope is simple enough that you can write code that generates it. And once you have a computer model, then 3D printing will convert that over into a physical model in a very accurate way. Okay, so let's look at some examples of different ways of making the same model and why I think our way is better. So this is a popular thing for people to 3D print or this sort of theme of these Mobius ladders. So it's a Mobius strip, but it's got sort of rungs and holes in between those rungs. And then you somehow have them twisting around so that they interpenetrate each other. And so there's various examples of these and this is, well, my version with one of my collaborators Saul Schreimer is at the University of Warwick. And so this is our version of essentially the same object. Hopefully I've got it on the table somewhere. Here it is. So it's actually in two pieces, it jangles because they're not the same object. So I'll start handing things around. Rafe, you're on the front row so you're gonna get lots of them first. So okay, so why do I like ours better than all of these other ones? And so there's sort of, you know, I want there to be a canonical geometric structure why I want as canonical as possible. And these things are somehow very blobby, right? They're sort of kind of mushy shapes. And I don't know, it's what are the angles here? They seem to be changing in some strange way. Over here, what do we have? We have always right angles between the rungs and the poles of the lattice. And why do we have this? It's because we have a parametrization. So this is actually parametrized, these mobius strips are parametrized in the unit sphere in four-dimensional space. And then, well, here's the parametrization. There's some cosines and signs. And the trefoil knots, the parametrized trefoil knots that I mentioned earlier, there's also parametrized in similar sorts of ways. So you've got a function of two variables. Theta is the direction that's going around the mobius, oh sorry, no theta is going across the mobius strip and tau is going around the mobius strip. There's actually a third parameter here because we need a thickness for the mobius strip but I suppressed that. And so, well, so why are rungs and are ladder poles at right angles to each other? Well, what you can do is you can take the derivatives in the theta direction and the tau direction. You can show that they are perpendicular to each other in four-dimensional space and then we use something called stereographic projection to go from four-dimensional space to three-dimensional space and then this is the result. And stereographic projection is conformal, it preserves angles and so we still have our right angles. So that's where that comes from. Just talking about stereographic projection, this is sort of illustrations of stereographic projection from the sphere in three-dimensional space to two-dimensional space. And you get the, these are actually, so stereographic projection is one of the few kinds of projection from one space to another that you can literally do with rays of light. And so there's a very nice sort of illustration of that. So here's another illustration using the same sorts of ideas. There's these various models of the hyperbolic plane. So maybe the most familiar model of the hyperbolic plane is the Poincare disc model. So if you've seen the Escher pictures with angels and demons and so on, where the angels and demons get smaller and smaller as you go out towards the boundary of the disc, it's a similar sort of thing to this. Here I've got triangles, which is going further out to the disc. And this is the shadow of this sort of bowl-shaped object here. And then there are other models of the hyperbolic plane that you can get out of this bowl by casting shadows in a different way. So if I raise the light very far up, then the rays come in down parallel to each other and you get the Klein model. And if instead you put the light on the equator of the bowl and turn it upside down, then the shadow that casts on the wall is the upper half-plane model of hyperbolic space. Okay. So we actually used some of these ideas. It was an exhibition in Edinburgh that Saul and I and various other people put on. This was earlier this summer. So we had 1,500 or so visitors. They were a three-week period. So this is this sort of grid projecting onto the wall. This was a globe being stereotypically projected onto the wall. You could rotate the globe around to any orientation you wanted and put your favorite country in the middle of the stereographic projection. We had various tiling. So this is the 532 tiling of the sphere and then the stereographic projection of that. You can see the conformality. We had this room of different tiling. So this was the 632 tiling and the 732 tiling. So thinking about different ideas about curvature.  Okay, this thing isn't gonna load, but that will load. So a Zoetrope is one of these things where you have a sort of disk that's rotating around and the Victorian Zoetropes, the way they worked is they had a cylinder with slits in it. And as the cylinder rotated around, you would see through the slit only for a very short amount of time. And this was sort of the first kind of animation things that people saw before film. So our version uses 3D printed models and strobe lights to spin the disk and flash the right way. And this is a stereographic projection of a cube that's being projected down into three-dimensional space. And there's a four-dimensional rotation that the animation is showing. Okay, so another example or a whole other class of examples of comparing different ways to turn topology into geometry. So this is an object called a ciphered surface. So a ciphered surface is a surface, this sort of orange surface, whose boundary is a given knot or link. A link is just a collection of knots together in the same space. In this case, the link consists of three loops. There's a yellow loop that goes around here and a blue loop and a red loop here. And these are images from Cypherview by Jack van Waik. And so he starts with this, well, this is a parametric way of drawing this surface, but it's not a very pretty one, but it is parametric. And so what is this? So if you imagine sort of rotating around this cylinder, there's a braid going on. So you've got three strands, a red strand, a yellow strand and a blue strand.  And then he follows an iterative process, the same sort of thing as for the truffle knots that I showed before. They kind of smooth this out. It's reducing some sort of energy and making something that looks like a nicer surface. So in comparison, this is our, again, this is joint work with Saul Schleimer. This is our version of the same surface. And I won't go into too much detail about where this comes from. I'll just sort of mention, well, so we have a parametrization. There's a sort of implicit description of what this surface is that's easier to understand. So this comes via these Milner fibers. So okay, so what's going on? So really this thing lives in four-dimensional space again, but I'm going to think of four-dimensional space as having two complex dimensions, which are given by W and Z. And it turns out if you work out what are the solutions to this equation here? W cubed plus Z cubed? Well, so the first thing to notice is that if you have a solution to this and you scale W and Z by the same number, you have another solution. And so this sort of has a cone-like structure as it's sort of projecting into the center. So let's chop it off along this sphere. In this case, the sphere in four-dimensional space and then stereographically project down to three-dimensional space and get something. And it turns out where you actually get are three circles. It's the same three circles as in here, at least topologically. And so this thing is some equation for a circle, for three circles. It turns out, okay, so this thing here is the equation of a surface. It's the argument of the thing from before. So you take the argument of a complex number, you get some answer, some real number, and so just something to think about here. So if you take a complex number and you take the argument, this is gonna work unless you're taking the argument of zero, because zero doesn't have an argument as a complex number. So you're gonna get a surface that has boundary, it stops making sense on this equation here. So it has a surface that has boundary on these three loops and you get this cyclic surface. Okay, I won't go into where it comes from, where this parameterization comes from. There's some scary things involving fractional automorphic forms. I'll just show a few sort of pictures of where this tiling of triangles comes from. There's a parameterization from the upper half plane into the sphere and four dimensional space, which then gets so definitely projected down to this. And then this pattern comes from a bunch of conformal transformations to this and then to the triangle. But let's compare the two. So maybe you can tell that they're really the same surface, sort of tricky. So you can see there's this red loop around here and that's the same as this circular loop here. I've tried to line these up in the same way. This yellow loop that's sort of coming towards us and away from us is this loop here. You can just see up here there's the front of the loop and then it goes around behind and so on. So okay, so let's check our aesthetic conditions. So they have the same symmetry actually as objects. So they have the same symmetry of the topological object. You can see this two-fold rotational symmetry. If you look at them above, you see a three-fold rotational symmetry. There's another sort of two-fold axis. This is where I think there's a difference. So this is looking straight onto this red loop here and straight onto this circle here. And the difference is that ours has an actual round circle. Topologists sometimes add the adjective round to circles because some of our circles are not round. But okay, so it's an actual circle whereas this is just a loop here, which is not surprising and we have this nice parameterization. We know all kinds of things about where it comes from and we built it so that in particular it has lots of nice sort of geometric properties which the iterative method can't really hope to find. It's not gonna find these things. So in that sense ours is sort of showing more about the object. On the other hand, so the problem with our method is that it only works for torus knots and links. So these are knots and links you can put on the surface of a torus whereas this iterative method can work with anything. So here's an example. This is the Borromean rings, not the same as the link that I was showing before. Borromean rings, these famous sets of rings where no two of them are linked but if you cut one of them, the other two fall apart. So somehow a symbol of unity. So this is again this image from SciFitView. So this was turned into a mesh and then a 3D print by Bathsheba Grossman, who's one of the real pioneers in 3D printed mathematical artwork. And again, getting this beautiful shape we wouldn't have been able to do because the Borromean rings are not a torus link and so our techniques don't work. We don't have enough math to do it. Whereas the iterative method doesn't care, it just gets on with it. Okay. So one last sort of case of this, what are the choices of turning topology into geometry except rather than talking about topological objects, the difficulty of making a model being that it's topological, here the problem is that it's too high dimensional. So this is the hypercube again, I guess we already saw this picture but maybe I'll go just into a little bit more detail how to go from four dimensions to three dimensions in a way which tells you lots about the objects. So what do we do? So just in a little bit more detail because I went through pretty quickly earlier on. So this is showing how to turn a cube, a three dimensional cube into a two dimensional picture of the cube by analogy with turning a hypercube, the four dimensional cube into a three dimensional picture of the hypercube. So what do we do? So this is a cube inside of a sphere and we radially project this outwards onto the boundary of the sphere and then we stereographically project from that down to the plane. And this is a very nice model of the boundary of the cube. In particular, it's nice because it's a one to one map. There's no overlaps between features on the cube down onto the plane. So I think this is the nicest sort of way to convert from polyhedra or to two dimensional pictures of those polyhedra or from four dimensional polytopes to three dimensional versions of those polytopes. So there's the hypercube. I can hand this around if I can find it. Here we go. So there's the hypercube, a 3D printed version of a hypercube and again this is radially projected onto the sphere in four dimensional space and then stereographically projected down to three dimensional space. And there's a render of the same thing. There are all of these other four dimensional polytopes. These are the four dimensional versions of the three dimensional polyhedra. And they all have sort of bit of etymology that they're named 16 cells. This one has 16 cells like the cells of a honeycomb or biological cells. They're three dimensional regions that are packed together in the same way that the two dimensional polyhedron has faces which are packed together over the surface of a sphere. So whereas you have dodecahedron 12 faces, the 16 cell has 16 cells. And these various very strange four dimensional objects. With Sol again, we made some puzzles based on the 120 cell. 120 cell is somehow the four dimensional version of the dodecahedron. So just to demonstrate one of these things, there are these various chains of dodecahedron inside of the boundary of this four dimensional polytope. And this is sort of, well, let's see. So this is a picture of some of the cells of that dodecahedron. And there's a sort of interesting way that they packed together. So I'll have this round as well. And by taking various chains of those cells, well, you can make a puzzle. So this is not a finished sculpture. This is a puzzle that comes apart into lots of different pieces like this. And then you can try and put it back together again. The mathematics behind this is the 120 cell has a sort of combinatorial version of something from algebraic topology called the Hopf vibration that more or less makes these puzzles work. Anyway, there we go. Okay, so more sort of visualization of four dimensional things, getting them down into three dimensions, more fun than a hypercube with monkeys. This is showing a particular kind of symmetry in four dimensional space that doesn't really exist in three dimensional space. So there are sort of these chains of monkeys that are sort of looping around each other and connected in various ways. There's actually one monkey here for each cube of the hypercube, but this doesn't have the same amount of symmetry as the hypercube because the monkey has less symmetry. So here we go. So here's a monkey inside of one cube of the hypercube, and then he's got six neighbors and the six neighboring cubes. And you can see there's this sort of, if I go from this central monkey to this one over here, there's sort of a left-handed twist. This kind of twist motion is a symmetry that's possible in four dimensional space because there are two planes that you can rotate around simultaneously. And that's not possible in three dimensional space. So you sort of get extra symmetries and you can see them using these. So there's the more fun than a hypercube of monkeys. You can do the same sort of thing with the 24 cell, showing a different kind of symmetry of the four dimensional space. And you can do the same thing with the 120 cell, the sort of 120 monkeys that are kind of twisting around each other. I would show you the interactive computer animation that goes along with this, but my wifi isn't working, so I can't. But you can look it up for yourself, monkeys.hypernome.com. Okay, so now we're well and truly moving away from topological things to here are some interesting projects. So this is a sort of mechanical question. This is, again, joint work with Saul Schleimer. This one I did load up. Did I load this up? No, I did not. Okay, so I'll just have to show you what this is. So there are three different rings here going around like this. And here it is. Here are these three different rings. You can rotate all of them together. The three of them can rotate together. You cannot rotate just one on its own. So it's sort of like gears that are meshed into each other except that they're actually linked with each other. And then there's this extra axle you can put it on that makes it easier to make it go. There we go. So if you just, oops, that's not what it's supposed to do. There we go. If you just sort of hold it vertically and let it run down, then you can see the three rings running against each other. So I'll hand this around so you can take a look. So where did this come from? Here's one story for where this came from. Once you start seeing this motif in graphic design, you can't stop seeing it. So I grew up in Manchester and this was a bus sign advertisement for, there was some sort of three different transportation systems that were gonna come together and make the city work wonderfully. But of course, nothing can move here. When this is rotating this way, this has to be rotating this way because they're meshed and then what way is this supposed to go? And this one over here, the teachers and the students and the parents come together and nothing happens. So three pairwise meshing gears are usually frozen. So there's a challenge. Can you find a triple of pairwise meshing gears that moves? And so this was, this thing is some sort of answer to this question. So how do we design this? So there's a lot of different sort of areas of mathematics that are involved here. And we started out with, well, sorry, this is another inspiration before I go on so that how do we do this? So there's a couple of similar sorts of objects. This is a sculpture called Umbilic Rolling Link by Helen Ferguson. So there are these two parts and they sort of twist into each other. So if you rotate this one around, the other one is forced to rotate I think on a third of the speed. So there's this sort of gearing into each other. If you're ever at Stony Brook University, if you go to the Simon Center for Geometry and Physics, whatever it's called at Stony Brook, there's a very large, like 20 meter tall version of, maybe 15 meter tall version of one of these kinds of sculptures. And this is another one. This is not a gear by Oscar van de Venter. So there's a three, two tour is not here and a two, three tour is not here. And as you rotate one of them, the other one has to rotate at relative speeds of two and three. So we wanted to do the same thing with three of them. So how do we do this? So the very first question was, what is the topology, right? So I wanna have three rings that are linked together and that have gears on them. There are some choices of how those should topologically be linked together. So for example, you might think, oh, we should use the Borromean rings, the most famous of the three ring links. And unfortunately that couldn't work for us. So the reason for this is that it's a result that you cannot make the Borromean rings from round circles. They have to be sort of ovals. And you want round circles because the things are supposed to rotate. So if you rotate your gears and they're ovals, then something is gonna go horribly wrong pretty soon. Whereas if they're basically circles, then hopefully things should work out. So we wanted them to be, so we said we used the three, three Taurus link. So again, it's a little hard to see, but there's a Taurus that sort of goes around through all of these and these curves.


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Like what do like, give me that sh- man. Good throw, dude. He don't even got pick artists. That was all user, bro. Click on body and look, come give me that. Jackson Smith and Jigba. Here we go, deep knockout. Thank you, bro. Who is this? DJ Morris this fast? How is he just just jettin' on me like this, dude? Just quick snap, verse.  You should find a different.  Never again, man. Like kids like this, just give me a free win and let's move on to the next week. Why the f- are you audible and dude, man, just snap the guy. All get boxed up. Yeah, good job here, kid. This is gonna work out so well for you. I don't know where my deep blue actually went on the field.  Come on, Michael O'Judewell. Yeah, man, I'm glad my spurs got their first pick, man. Ever since Duncan. Duncan was the one that made me be a player, really. Said, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, cricket. I'm just mad that I'm playing. I hate to see if I'm sh- I really do. Duncan's one of the 10 best players in CFM. I mean, dude, just, oh yeah, let's go. Tim Patrick, you're different with abilities. You're different with abilities, Tim Patrick. I swear to God, are you play these kids? All you need is deep knockout on every player. That's all you need.   If you guys see this sh- dog, if you see this sh- that happens to me, it's like you never understand. No one even ever understands this sh- Game, dude. Just miserable. Just absolutely miserable, man. Absolutely f-ing miserable. It's just, I have a safety man up on the tight end and he runs right into f-ing the other man.  W's ran man coverage, but let me run verticals because you know, that's a great play against man. It's just, it's just miserable, man. It's just f-ing miserable. Just makes me mad that I have to deal with this sh- Like, I swear to God, deep thirds on CFM are the most lost sh- in the game. They really are.  Nice run, bro. Nice f-ing run. Keep the defense honest. Oh my God, man. Like, just like, it's just, the game is just made for abilities, man.   Man, man coverage, the brain dead man. Man coverage is f-ing awful. I don't know what player y'all are on. Y'all think that sh- is good. One incompletion, boys. Good throw, bro. Look at Tim Patrick. Vanity, what's he's doing is he thinks he's f-ing Dick LaBeau out here. He's got deep third, oh, safety. He's got deep thirds. You know, he's doing the cover three cloud adjustment trying to blitz five. Now he's usurin' his D-Lyman. And that was just a cloud over there. I quick snapped him, like, you guys, like, quick snap is so important. Deep knockouts just don't work, bro. Like, am I, like, it just doesn't work. I don't know, I don't, why am I playing this f-ing game right now? Why am I doing it to myself? Tensional grounding. This is fun to watch. Are you guys enjoying this? Would you rather watch me play Sobo's at MLB? Would you rather watch me play Star Wars? Like, like, I, I, I, I wanna rage, like, another level of rage right now. I want to rage, like, to another f-ing level of rage, dude. Thank you, it's not f-ing hard.  Like, he's just runnin' this blitzer right here and just bumpin' the sh-t out of, like, in Jigba right here. That was a great f-ing interception, dude. I'm gonna fumble you up the third of the game. Yeah, I know, now we're in a seven-point game. I just knew it. I just knew that was gonna, like, great clock management about the ops here. I bet it has, don't even know what to do here. He's gonna throw anything right here.  Thank God, dude. I don't know where my deep blue went on the f-ing. If he, honestly, if he didn't highball this, he just walks an end zone. If he didn't highball that, he just walks in the f-ing end zone.  I hate this f-ing game. It's a good f-ing effort here, dude. That's just a great effort here. Well, what the problem was, was I'm in three deep and this is the thing that I f-ing hate. Some formations you can't, I wanted to put a 30-yard cloud on this guy, but it's a formation that doesn't get, it's one of the ones that gets thirds on the safety instead of purples, which is stupid as sh-ing. And I don't run three deep enough to know that, so I just wanna put this guy in a 30-yard cloud which would be on the San Francisco logo, but I put him in a deep half.  Perfect quarterback rating. We have three incompletions, but we fumble three f-ing times, so you know.


Hey guys, it's Nate, aka the Foot Accountant. Welcome back to the channel. Prices are continuing to fall on this FIVA 23 market, especially after we learned some big news about the upcoming Ultimate Team of the Season in this next week of FIVA 23. That is just one of the reasons that the market is continuing to drop right now. And yesterday, we saw some really big price drops, especially on a certain area of the market. And what I want to do today is continue to talk about that as we head into this week, because it might not be done yet. I do think this market can keep crashing on a lot of different levels. We want to take a look through that today. Of course, today is Monday, right? It's Upgrade Pack SBC. They are a chance to pack Serie A Team of the Season cards. I'm looking forward to this big time today, because these Serie A Team of the Season cards will look cracked. And I would like to get at least a chance of packing a layout.  So we'll look at all that content today. And will we get more XP or are we all done with that? I want to talk about that a little bit in today's video as well, as we're getting very close to the end of this season of SWAP. So if you're excited for a Monday on FIVA, the Upgrade Pack Grand and everything going on in this game, drop a thumbs up on the video and subscribe if you are new. Let's quickly go over yesterday's content. There wasn't a ton to look over, to be completely honest. But we did get a lot of Liga Portugal Team of the Season content yesterday with SBC's objectives and cards and packs. And it was basically just as leaked. We got the Hector Bayer in, high, high work rates, just a decent card. Nothing super crazy there. At least it's cheap. 30,000 coins to do, one squad. If that's a card, if you want to put together a Liga Portugal Team, that might be a card that you need to do that. And man, this Liga Portugal Team of the Season does look very, very nice. Now, the one thing I'll point you to is a lot of the objectives right now are dropping in the milestones tab. That's because the season is, of course, ending on Thursday. So keep an eye on the milestones tab. Instead of the objective tab this week, there might be more stuff dropping in there. Otavio, wishing that he had five star skills, high, high work rates though, not a bad card, easily completable in here as well. Again, the biggest W of all the cards that were dropped yesterday for Liga Portugal Team of the Season is definitely the cards and packs. I mean, you look at this team, the prices that they are already at and some of the stats that these cards have are amazing. Gonzalo Ramos with the five star skill, four star week foot boost with really, really good shooting stats for 100,000 coins. That's a fun card. 81 composure, definitely lets him down a little bit low on the passing stats as well, but that's why he's 100k. You got a cracked Otamendi for 30k, or Grimoldo with 99 pays for 60k. Ajoao Mário, if you want to put together a team of any of these Portuguese League team players, like this is a really, really fun set of players for a really cheap budget. I'm going to say this, I think this Toremi card looks better than Lukaku. He's four star, four star. He is lengthy on a hawk. Look at those stats. He's going to max shooting, almost max pays, 99 stamina, basically 99 strength as well. Really good dribbling stats apart from the agility and balance, but of course he's the lengthy. So going to be a really good card there for 40,000 coins. I am a big fan of this League of Nars team, really fun card to try out. Very linkable as well, right? With all the links that you got there, Portuguese team. The bad thing about this is, is it's a lot of the Portuguese flag kind of bait, if you will, because Leao is in packs right now. So there are two actually Portuguese left wings that are in packs for now, one of which is 800,000 coins or around there, this Pedro Gonçalves, which in my opinion, this is the, this is almost more cracked than Rafael Leao. This is an absolutely insane, insane card, top tier for sure. And he's very expensive right now, but that's because he's a crack card and he's rare. Watch these cards throughout the week. They probably will drop, but a nice mix of players dropped yesterday with the League of Portugal team this season. We did not see the Eusebio SBC though. We were looking forward to that. And we unfortunately did not see that one. So that was kind of the content yesterday with League of Portugal. We also had the last SBC for XP. We had team of the season challenge nine. And guys, I was thinking about this and we were talking about it a bit on stream yesterday. This might be the last piece of content that is released that gives us XP through objectives to try to get to level 30. If you're still on that grind, like I am, I'm almost there. But you know, with the outstanding stuff that we have, we have a lot of XP for the objective guys, for like the Tots draft, for the cup, for Silver Stars. Guys, I don't know if we're getting any additional XP. There's nothing today for the upgrade packs, like there's been in the past few weeks. And since we are so close to the end again, three days until this season ends and three days until this is over and we get a whole new season with maybe a new set of swabs, but maybe just a regular season, who knows, we'll find out more later on this week on that. If you're hunting down the last couple thousand XP that you need, I think you have to look at what we already have out. And I doubt there's anything new that drops. There's maybe going to be one last thing. I don't know what it would be. You might say, Nate, what about Silver Stars? Well, if Silver Stars is dropping on Wednesday, I doubt there's XP for that when the season is going to be resetting literally the day after. So I'm not expecting Silver Stars to have XP this week. I think we've got it all in this game right now, which is a bit unfortunate for some of you guys that may be falling behind, but make sure you check in the objectives tab and get everything done that you can get done. So that was kind of all that happened yesterday on a pretty quiet Sunday, right? We had the 90 plus player pick on Saturday that bumped some things up there. Now let's talk about this market because, yes, indeed, prices are crashing and prices are dropping like crazy. And it's on some specific cards. At least that's where we're seeing the biggest price drop offs. Remember Jonathan David in last night's video was like 530k and I was like, Hey, that's a pretty solid buy. I picked two up for 525k sold them for like 56570. He went all the way down to like 470,000 coins. Now he's back up just about to 500k, but a lot of the market is down and a lot of these really expensive cards are down because people are getting ready for Ultimate Team of the Season. The selling has started. The panic, I guess you could say, has begun because what Ultimate Team of the Season does is if you're not aware, it re-releases some of the best cards back into packs. It's like a re-release of some of the best cards dropped during the entire Team of the Season promo. A lot of people save packs for Ultimate Team of the Season. And right now what is happening is people are selling cards that they believe are going to get into Ultimate Tots. Take a look at Benzema from 4.1 mil to start the day yesterday on Sunday all the way down to 3.2. He dropped almost a million coins. He rebounded back to 3.6 mil where he is right now. It's mostly these top tier cards that are especially very overpriced as they have been through Team of the Season. Ronaldo 6.6 mil down to 5.4 back up to 5.8 and right now he's about 5.8 mil. There are so many examples of really, really expensive cards. Griezmann was 3.3. He went down to 2.3 and is back up a little bit. Vinny Jr. is down a ton. Militão, Valverde, Llorente, you look across the top leagues of Team of the Season and you've got prices that are dropping like crazy. Mbappe was 10 million coins and now he is 8.9 mil. Just yesterday I believe he was like 10.2 10.2 mil dropping all the way to 8.9 and the reason this is happening is look at last year's Ultimate Team of the Season side. We're going to talk about this more later on during the week as we maybe get some more leaks and some more information but the premise of the Ultimate Tots is re-release players. Yes, there's some really big cards in here. There's also some pack filler and some lower tier cheaper ones but take a look at Theo Hernandez's card last year. Serie A Team of the Season being just before Ultimate Tots as well last year. He was about to go out of packs. He was 1.1 million coins. He gets re-released into Ultimate Tots on Friday June 10th and during that next week he went all the way down to 500,000 coins. So you're seeing the preparations happen already. People are selling off some of these cards because they know that there are price drops ahead especially if those cards get re-released back into Ultimate Team of the Season. That is the premise of why a lot of the big cards are dropping right now in this market and guys I don't think that is done. Let's talk about that a little bit more. The reason I don't think it's going to be done is because we have some packs that have been added to the code. Now this tweet's been out for a couple of days and there's been some further leaks and information talked about with this. One really massive part about Ultimate Team of the Season is the rewards. Every single week we've been playing Weekend League to get a chance at the main League of Tots cards that are in packs. Right now Serie A Tots are in red picks and inside of the packs. Now this pack code that was added a couple of days ago shows Ultimate Slash League of Portugal player packs. This is what the Weekend League rewards would be this next weekend showing these cards right now in these packs. So that is also starting to create some hype and also we saw a leak yesterday. We could take it with a pinch of salt of course that potentially Ultimate Tots cards would be in red picks. Can you imagine red picks when all of these cards are available? You look at last year's team with guys like Jeter, Lewandowski, Bellingham, De Bruyne, and Kunku Vinny Jr. all on the bench of Ultimate Tots. Then you've got Van Dijk, Rafael Leao, Benzema and Bape. This would be like the most sweaty Weekend League ever if it's only the Ultimate Tots cards that are in the red player picks. Now what has been done in the past is EA has actually put in the E-Figs Tots player picks. So it gives you a player pick from one of the top five Leagues and not just from the Ultimate Tots team. That's been one letdown of these past couple of years of Ultimate Team this season and it's not confirmed yet but with a tweet like this yesterday that a lot of people saw and these packs in the code people are starting to dream, imagine, assume that the Ultimate Tots team will be in footchamps rewards, right? This is even a leak here from this account, FIFA 23 News, take it with a pinch of salt. It's not a leak account that we often follow but I think this tweet as well is starting to again create some of that hype around the panic selling and with that pack code tweeted as well people are starting to believe that that could be a thing. So that's really impacting the top tier of the market and I think it's going to impact the rest of the market throughout the rest of this week because if you think about seeing all those prices from Ultimate Team this season and all these Team this season cards getting re-released into packs it's not like only the cards that get re-released into packs are dropping in price. If you take a look last year at these Team of Cards that are in packs can you imagine when a 97 rated mortgage card like the one that we have this year that's already 400k gets re-released back into packs last year was 700k he went all the way to 200,000 coins well what do you think that's going to do to the rest of the market that's maybe not included in Team of the Season Ultimate but you know when all the rest of these insane top tier cards that are being re-released into packs are dropping in value as they're getting packed and their impacts again and supplied more that's going to bring the rest of the market down with it. So that is why again this is why we're being very careful about buying and holding on to top cards and we've been talking about Ultimate Team this season especially on the stream for the past couple of weeks guys this would be probably a pretty decent opportunity before prices drop even further in the next week or two if you want to be safe I know it's towards the end game I know you're wanting to use the cards that you've worked all year to get coins to be able to buy and stuff like that I completely understand this is definitely the time of the year to have fun but it is probably safe to be pretty careful this week and not hold on to too many cards because a lot of stuff I think is going to fall further and it might not happen just today or just tomorrow it's going to happen over the next week as we've got Ultimate Tots released into packs we got some of these cards coming back into packs and dropping in price and it's probably going to drag a lot of the rest of the market down with it along with the other content sbcs and stuff that we get so that's kind of my general warning and I guess kind of my feeling for the outlook for the rest of this market in the next week to week and a half or so a lot of prices are probably going to drop some of them will drop and have some quick bounce backs if they don't get released into Ultimate Tots but we'll take a look at that towards the middle to end of the week as prices probably are going to continue to drop off at least a little bit today into tomorrow so that's kind of my big I guess you could say a talking point right now is just be careful with cards that you have now I've bought some team the season cards because I still think that today on Monday morning as it normally is you're going to see some prices fluctuate right last night Debala had a really good fluctuation that tail Hernandez that I bought had a really good fluctuation as well so I'm definitely not scared of trading too much today I'm going to be quick flipping a few cards I think we'll see if Debala goes how much lower he goes he's already pretty low right now at 1.06 definitely interested in some of the new cards like Pedro Gonzales aka Pedro G Fuel and some of you guys may know him by his nickname he's 700k right now right he was 800k earlier I sold one there so I'm just kind of keeping an eye on those cards but I'm going to probably be safe with my coins throughout the rest of this week I'm gonna stay pretty liquid just because the fear and the panic selling that could be coming that's the thing for me that makes me and if I had some cards in my team I would probably take the cash sooner a little bit earlier than later because I think prices do have potential to go down further next week and even at the end of this week so that's kind of the big market talk conversation for me right now in this game especially today as we look towards the content getting more SBCs that could drain coins off of this market and that's kind of where we're at right now as we kind of think about today in Monday in terms of content what to expect today we're looking at those upgrade pack SBCs right here's what I would do already stock your club with the golds we say this every single week on Sundays and Mondays right stock your club with the rare golds last week they went to what 1000 coins or 1100 I think right now they are still minimum 650 and man I'm telling you with the way this team looks I need to stock my club with some of these at 650 because I want to hit a lot of upgrade packs this week for Syria now if you're a little bit low on coins maybe this is a week that you're a little bit careful with that because you've got ultimate team this season that is upcoming and there's going to be even of course better I guess in total cards and packs with all the re-release of those cards but I at least want to give myself a shot at packing some of these guys today whether it's from the 81 times 11 or from the regular upgrade packs that are dropped all I have to say about EA sports today is you've got to re-release that 80 plus player pick man you got to EA sports and I'm a little bit worried that they won't and the reason I think they may not do that is Ultimate Tots is this Friday right so what they really want to drop an 80 plus player pick that you could stack up a bunch of for all the team in the season it's June EA let us have fun but I could see them not wanting to do that so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't release an 80 plus but I have my fingers crossed and I really hope that they do drop an 80 plus player pick today so if you believe that's going to happen maybe stock up on some comments at 300 350 but the rares for the eight player cereal packs that we've come to expect every single Monday are definitely something to watch out for today now if the market's going to be dropping during the week how are we going to be trading in a safe way this week how are we going to be able to increase our coin balances especially with prices going down I've got an answer for you it's SBC fodder you guessed it right we got 83s 84s and 85s definitely on our radar for investment again because guess what 81 times 11 we got more SBCs coming out like the guaranteed league of Portugal guaranteed Syria Tots pack going to be coming out this week that's the market in upcoming drops and prices it's not going to stop a lot of people from doing those types of upgrade packs and SBCs so I think that the 83s to the 85s are once again a pretty good investment if it happens like it did last week where we had the 80 plus player picks released that might hurt some of our fodder rises right last week 84s 85s didn't do as well because we had that 80 plus player pick there that a lot of people were of course getting fodder from but if we don't get that this week I think your 83s to 85s will do tremendous ones again again stay away from the Syria cards as we mentioned in the past couple videos but 85s 8.2k like that's that's a W in my book 8.2k for 85s all we need is for one SBC to require an 85 rated card or an 84 rated card if you're investing in 84s and uh boom you're gonna make bank right so 84s we've seen it they've gone to 6k 85 so we've seen it they've gone to 10 11 000 coins if I had to pick a more favorite investment I think I would pick the 83s and the 84s because also if you take a look at the rest of fodder market 86s are nine and a half k only a thousand coins more than 85s and 87s are still 13k so yes there is a jump potential there but really what you're hoping for is EA to require an 85 rated player in a SBC like a guaranteed tots which they have been doing that too much they've also just been requiring the squad ratings but specifically in that 81 times 11 you want like an 85 or an 84 specific requirement I think I might lean towards the 84s but it's better to save play to just stock all of them in your club fill up a few in your transfer list and then lazy list those through the week so that's kind of the fodder investment side of things that you could definitely do another thing I want to shout out in terms of fodder is informs and you might be like Nate why are we talking about informs it's a tradable inform uh SBC that is supplying these guys on the market there is but you can only do that SBC once every like what is it two weeks or something like that it already refreshed a lot of people have already done it and as I'm taking a look at inform prices they're not up as much 13k for an 87 rated inform is not that much I want to show you foot bin right now and take a look at a couple of these cards I'm just doing a club stock on these I'm not going to invest like crazy but if you take a look at these graphs um like these guys were all 16 17k last week and they went down when the SBC refreshed for that tradable team of the week player 87 informs went down to 13 000 coins now they've started to go back up a little bit but I think if you club stock 86 and 87 rated informs 88s are already starting to go up and all these have started to go up a little bit because again right you had that dip with the tradable refresh but they're starting to go up just like as all their fodder like the tots cards are going up as tots cards get expensive and and more expensive people might start to turn to the informs because they're cheaper and a lot of the requirements once again as we look at SBCs are team of the week or team of the season so the fact that these guys are getting a little bit cheaper especially on the higher tier uh basically we're trying to go as high rated as we can before those cards are uh like discard as higher rated as we can go and as close to discard as we can go if that makes sense but as you look at a lot of these squads right you've got team of the week or team of the season player minimum one team of the week or team of season player minimum one and that's the requirement that they've been doing a lot of so we've seen team of the season cards go up right from 18 000 coins to about 22k and i'm not sitting here saying that you're going to have all of your team of the week cards that are 87 rated go up to 22 000 coins as well um they might only go to like 20k in the next week or two but this is a sort of thing where that tradable team of the week pack does not um refresh at least for another like two weeks i think because that's when the SBC expires and then it could come back so i like 86 rated informs at discard i like 87 rated informs and 14k and below 13k if you can because that's where they were last week before they started to go up a little bit towards 16 17k if you look at their graphs you see the fluctuations right they go down to like 15 14 you get on a bid that's what i would do just put one of your transfer lists one in your club that's more of a longer term investment but that's still a part of the market that i think has potential just because they haven't risen as much as the team of the season cards have so i like that part of the fodder investment as well in this game at the moment now we talked about my monday content today the upgrade packs to 81 times 11 what about a player sbc ea sports can we get a player sbc shout for possibly a yusebio icon right that's the card we've been talking about we didn't see it yesterday a little surprised not to see it we also could have the malinkovich savage or the lobotka right i think there's definitely going to be a player sbc delay just honestly don't know who it's going to be you'd think they'd go back to maybe a syria player but we will have to see what they do there and guys yesterday big news and i don't know if ea has the turnaround time or the capability to drop a massive sbc or the desire to drop a massive sbc in the next i don't know week but this sbc for an end of an era is latan ibrahimovic or just we need like a role of end of an era's men we need an end of an era potentially benzema people have shot at busquets quagliarella alaba there are sort of not alaba alba jordi alba there are so many end of an era sbc's that could be dropping but specifically this guy man if they dropped an end of an era is latan ibrahimovic that will be a card um that would not leave my starting 11 for probably the rest of the year right those there's some just really top tier end of an era is right now as the season is ending and some of these guys are retiring moving on from their clubs that would just hit different right now in this game so ea if you're listening at all end of an era is latan ibrahimovic would mean so much for so many people and especially since he's only got one special card this year that will be phenomenal man especially for me this is one card that uh like got me into playing fifa members scoring you know crazy long shots of them in fifa 15 which was my first fifa i used to name my foot club after ibrahimovic because he was the card that i would kind of do an rtg for to get his gold card which back in the day his gold card was like 300k until at least like march it was crazy expensive when he was at man you so you know that sort of stuff is really emotional for me and for a lot of people in this game and those are great sbcs for the end of the year so i hope they do something along those lines maybe not today or this week but coming soon ea please we would really really like that and then also we got to talk about compensation as well because uh i think we're getting into that window where compensation for the league one player picks mondays have been days where they have released compensation before and i think today it would be maybe one of the earlier shouts for a day where they could potentially do compensation so i'm not saying it's going to happen today i'm just saying hey there's a chance that it could be coming pretty soon i'm sure it's going to take a long time from them figure out who all is deserving of compensation because of a lot of people definitely playing week in league um and needing those player picks but that's a very popular question right now and uh i hope that that compensation is coming very soon it needs to come soon and i feel like the earliest potential for that could be released so watch out for that today on fever 23 but it's upgrade packed day we're going to try to pack some blues hopefully we get player picks as well and a good craftable player sbc but just be careful on that market because a lot of stuff i think is just going to be continued to be headed in the downward trend during this week so that's it for today guys if you did enjoy smash a thumbs up on a comment down below if you have any questions and subscribe if you do it's been native account i'll see you guys in the stream today peace out


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So this is your testimony of faith as more of a ceremonial because you already believe, right? Absolutely. You already have a belief. And to you, what is Islam? What is the beliefs of Islam? Like, what do you believe? It's kind of hard to just pinpoint one thing. I think it's about living life, right? And doing what's good and taking care of one another. It's just living your life, right? And then in terms of the beliefs, we believe in one God and you accept that. Absolutely. You believe in Muhammad, peace be upon him, as a messenger of God? As being the messenger of God, the Rasul? Yes. Yes. You believe in the books that God has sent and ending with the Qur'an. The Qur'an being the book of what? And belief in the angels and the belief in the last day. You said this was something that you embraced between April and May. So for us, for me looking at your journey, your spiritual journey, you embraced faith back in April or May when you finally said, yes, this is what I believe. And so this Shahada is you're announcing that to the community. So I don't want you to feel that you became Muslim today. You became Muslim that moment where that faith entered your heart. And you said, yes, this is what I believe, because it's a relationship between you and God. And you don't need it affirmed by any other human being. You don't need a special, you know, your faith can't be given or taken away by somebody else. This was your relationship between you and God. But the Shahada, the specific announcement can be done by anyone. And I'm actually going to ask and suggest a good friend of mine to walk you through the process. Yes, Bro. As-Salaamu Alaykum. Basically, it's just the declaration, two declarations. One declared that there's no God but God. And the second declaration there with Muslim Muhammad is the best. So we say it in Arabic. And the first part is Ash-Hadu. And you can repeat after me. Ash-Hadu. La ilaha ilmalba. Ash-Hadu. Banna Muhammadan Rasulullah. A bare witness. There's no God but Allah. A bare witness. That Muhammad is the messenger. Alhamdulillah. I'm a hug. COVID and everything. I'm a hug. That's it. Thank you. I wasn't going to miss this for nothing, man. I appreciate it. If anyone understands the journey, I'd be anywhere. I know it's being recorded, but I have to give you a reason for the significance of this when it came to me. While I was in prison, right? It's after a few years of being in there. And I'm still running with the homies inside. I started going to Juma services in prison. The brothers invited me to come to Juma. And I've been doing that for a couple of months. Some of the homies didn't care about that. Some of them did. But there was one dude who did not like that. Because all the Muslims were black. And he felt like you shouldn't be over there. So they come and get me. And they're like, hey, homies such and such wants to talk to you. That's the dude you don't want talking to you. When he summons you, it's like you're in trouble. So I was like, this is not going to happen. And so we sit down on the yard. He wants to talk to me on the yard.  So I'm sitting there.  And he starts off by telling us this history of the gang and Mexican history and all this other stuff. And basically telling me why I can't go to Muslim services. Because they're all black. So I stop and I'm like, well, you know where in Mexico, right? You know where in Mexico?  I don't have the beard. They didn't know me as to Josh and who were. They knew me by the other name. So you know where in Mexico? Not in Mexico. I'm from Pakistan.  So I'm going to Muslim services. And he's like, he wanted me to not go to Muslim services because everyone in there is black. So I made a conscious decision.  Whatever happens. That was a very dangerous situation. That's a very dangerous situation that you're putting yourself in that you make the wrong decision. Your life is over. That's the way they play the game. Very hostile, by the way. Yeah. And they don't give you option A, B, or C.  Very simple. I was like, man, I can't turn back on this. You know? So I'm like, what are you doing? These guys are Muslims, right? You're my homeboy. Those guys are my brothers. You're asking me to make this choice. And I'm not making that choice. I'm going to go to services.  There's blacks in there, right? And you're not telling none of the homies not to go to Christian services. So why are you doing that with us? So anyway, we're going to discuss this later. The fact that I wasn't Mexican kind of threw for a loop and he had to figure out, how am I going to address this guy? You know? That's his religion. That's his race, right? And anyway, I left and I'm like, I'm in limbo. I don't know what's going to happen. They're still going to kill me or not. But I'm not going to stay here. I'm not going to put a protective custody of nothing. I'm staying here. Well, the Muslims saw him checking me. And they are playing. They don't play either. The Muslims ain't playing either. So they saw him checking me, right? And they came to me and they're like, what was that about? And I'm like, look, there's none of your business. I don't want to get you guys wrapped up in this stuff because it'll cause a lot of problems. So I got this, but don't worry about it. Don't get involved in this. I'm a youngster, right? And these guys have been down for years. So they're like, you got this, but don't worry. They went to him and they basically told him, look, if anything happens to that youngster, it's on between us. There weren't a lot of Muslims on the yard. A lot of homies on the yard, but not a lot of Muslims on the yard. But the way the Muslims went and approached him, it's like if anything happens to this brother, because he's chosen to be Muslim, if anything happens to him, it's war. And you don't want to go to war with us, man. And you know what? After that, they left me alone. They left me alone. I stayed on the yard for the next 15-something years.  They weren't happy at all. But it's like, this is his religion. That's what you believe in. Yeah, you have to stand, won't you? And they appreciated the fact that, you know, I didn't run. I stayed there. And I wasn't playing with it. That was the other thing. I trusted Allah 100%. I'm like, look, I'm turning my life over to you, but ain't no half-stepping with this. I'm doing this 100%. And man, I'll be honest, every decision I made after that, Allah guided me all the way, even removing the life sentence. Is that a life sentence? That life sentence came off as a result of the decision to do the right thing. And you said over here, there was a point where you consciously made that decision too much. Like, you had a conversation with God, and you said, get me out of this, and I will do the right thing. I did. Before I was 80-sentence, when they were still wanting to get me a 10-foot murder, I mean, everybody knows what comes with a 10-foot murder. It's a life-sensing accident. And I was scared. I was 22 years old. I thought my life can't be a murder. And I asked, you know, if you get me out of this, I swear I'll change. Whether if I make it out of this or not, if I stick with the life since I saw it, I'll still dedicate my life to God. And it went away two weeks later. They dropped it. And then, of course, I had to fight it, and then eventually it was a very minimal sentence.  So, at the time, because I was still young, and I was a product of my environment, it wasn't a fast transition. I did change. I always had more control over it, but I was able to just kind of check myself before I did something, which I never did before, before I was just very spontaneous, very... Just do it. Whatever. They just do it, because that's how I was. That's how I grew up. And it wasn't until a year and a half from the day to where it finally just clicked. I mean, I was always positive, and I was always good, and I was always uplifting and wanting to help people, because that's who I am. And I just seemed to change. It was about a year, a year and a half, to where I'd seen a change, and I was all with it. And then from there, I just flew forward and I didn't get myself involved. But because of where you're at, you have to be involved to a certain extent. And because of what I did and the jobs that I had in there, I had to conduct myself at a higher standard. So, not only did I do that for myself, but because of who I was. I changed my mind. I could do the same thing. I was very proud of myself. I feel like I'm on the hot schedule to where I once was. You got to catch up. Yes, because before, I was very successful. I was very young in my twenties, making a lot of legit money. I was doing very well with the business I did. And I lost it all. And I figured I was two years behind it and thousands of dollars behind it. So then I just stayed focused, like I've always been. And because of God, I've been able to have what I have and do what I do. So you made the change, but it was gradual? It was. But focused. You still maintained the focus, but it was a gradual shift. It wasn't like this. No, it wasn't like that. It took at least a year. And what I would say about that is that coming over here, I was thinking what advice would I give to a new Muslim? And it's a hadith, a saying of the prophet that I mentioned a lot when somebody first becomes a Muslim, which is the prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam said that this deen, this religion of Islam, is strong. It's metine. It's heavy. It's not a light thing. It's not a light thing. It's not a light committal. Yourself. You can drive yourself. You could have made that change.  You could have driven yourself and made those changes in a week or two. But you knew yourself. You said, I'm going to stay focused. I'm going to do this over a period of time. And it took about a year. So the prophet Muhammad was telling us, take your time with this religion. Don't pile everything on yourself at once. Stick to the basics, the basic practice, the basic interaction rules that a Muslim should conduct him or herself with.  So if you ever feel like, this is getting too much, just remember, take it easy. It's a marathon and it's not a sprint. I would like to share with you. Yes. So I'm not an emotional person. I was raised not to be emotional. And because of how I grew up, I've been helping with free motions. And I was talking to a little writer and halfway through the conversation, I felt emotional for some reason. And I'm not an emotional person. And I spoke with my friend about this.  Knowing that I want to, or I want to be part of Islam or I'm not sure. Aside. Yeah, it's aside. It's aside. Because it wasn't normal for you. No. Because it was very different.  That's how I felt. And I thought, maybe it is aside. And so that's when you started reaching out to the mosques and massaging to try to find a place? No, actually, this happened right as I was speaking with him. Oh, okay. This happened two days ago. Oh, I see, okay. Yeah, this happened two days ago. I've been reaching out for, actually right after COVID started. Oh, so it's been months as you were reaching out to mosques? Yeah, I was trying. I was trying to maybe get something for kind of inflammation before. You know, it's even worse. So how many mosques did you end up contacting before MCC? Maybe it doesn't. Maybe a little bit more for Sacramento. I mean, Sacramento, Santa Clara, San Jose, I think there's one in Sunnyvale. And you were just asking them, like, I just want to take my shahada. I was talking. I just wanted to talk to anybody to get any kind of information. Because I mean, there's only so far you can go on. And any responses from those dozen mosques? Some of them, they go to leave a message and the phone just hangs up. But that didn't... Determine? Determine. No. I'm very focused on what I want and what I want to do. Especially if it's a change, a good change in life. There's nothing that can stop me. Right? Because you're not doing this for other people. You're doing it for yourself and so you kept that. Absolutely. Something I want, something I truly want. Not for anyone else. This is for me. Well, and the person that mentioned that maybe that sign of emotion that you had was a sign of... Sometimes we say till fit, success, divine success. God gives you success till fit. Everything lines up. Like, I didn't know had such a dad was going to be here. Right? You didn't know you were going to be here. No. He called me yesterday. You weren't planning to be here. I didn't know he was going to be here. Yeah. He called me yesterday or the day before. Yes. I'm actually on my way.  When I leave the restaurant, right, I have to coordinate all kinds of stuff to make sure somebody's going to be there.  They'll burn the place down, man. And so anyway, it takes a lot of coordination. So today, I was on my way to Union City because my ex-sally just got found suitable. After 25 years. After 25 years, right? And he got found suitable. So I'm looking for a restaurant out there to purchase for him so he can come on and have his own place. And so I was on my way over there. He calls me and he's like, he told me about you, man. He's like, he's going to be having something. I'm like, I was on my way over there to the bay anyway. I'm going to rearrange all of that so I can come here. But it's just weird how things lined up because it would have taken me weeks to get. Yeah. It would have taken me weeks to get somebody, all the people to take care of the restaurant when I'm not there, you know. And so today, yeah. So anyway, I wasn't going to miss this. When he told me, I'm like, oh yeah, that happened to delay. Well, I'm coming here. So it took all kinds of, just to back over there. It's crazy because all the things lined up in ways you can't even imagine, man. My experience in prison was the same way in the sense that when you make the commitment that you're going to trust the law to handle your affairs, right? And you do the right thing now. Once you trust in the law to handle your affairs and then you reinforce that by doing the right thing yourself. After that, don't even worry about it. Exactly what I did. Yeah. Don't worry about it. That was the secret to success. Just those two things. It depends on God, it depends on a law and do the right thing. And do the right thing. Is that simple? Is that simple? Very simple and fair. And my life hasn't been better. And both of you and Javier and Hatch the Jed, we met before this day, but you've come to the same realization that that's all you need to do for success. Two simple things, man. You've got to trust them. Ain't no half step. No, you have to be all right. Ain't no half step. You've got to trust. You've got to trust in the law and just reinforce that with doing the right. The minute that you put a little bit of slick in the game, that's when things go bad. Because that means you're no longer trusting the law.  You've got to trust the law and do the right thing and believe that it's going to come out right. You, it's just, when I started from off the corner, it was that simple strategy. That simple strategy. I trusted the law that this was, I was doing it as a service, that it was going to be successful. And I know I was going to end up with many stores as I do now. No, I didn't think so. But as long as I stayed true to those two girls, Alhamdulillah, Allah kept blessing me there. As long as all the boys and stuff come through the bed, I'm like, no. Well, you mentioned something earlier that sometimes people from your past, they might see you 10, 15, 20 years later and they haven't seen all of the changes and the transitions that you've made and that maybe even the people that are really close to you, maybe they get an understanding of it, but somebody who's not close to you is not going to understand it all. But they're still operating with you the way you were. That's the point of reference. Right. And it made me think of, you know, that even the process of when a person becomes Muslim and starts developing their Islam, whether they were born Muslim and start developing their Islam, because I have that experience as well. I was born Muslim, but I didn't always practice.  It might be family, it might be friends. And so you have to have mercy and compassion with them but steadfast on your path. Like, this is who I am, but I'm also, you know, I'm recognizing where you are and there's some things that you might not accept about me, but even in the process of you not accepting, I'm going to be merciful and compassionate. It's my grip. Yeah, my grip. That's the grip. Be comfortable who you are and what you want to do. And especially when it comes to Allah, I think it's important to just stay true to yourself and anything that you want, regardless of anyone else's opinion or someone might treat you differently because of it. Yeah. So you said be comfortable with who you are. So how do you deal with when somebody else is not comfortable with who you are but you're comfortable with who you are and one element of who you are? How do you deal with that? You know what? I've been blessed by the ability to communicate with people. That's one of my strong points. If someone has an issue, why do you have to be true? What do you think? You can't believe what you see on the TV or ask me any question about it. And come with them with love. It's their anger or just if you're positive, I've been known to be like the worst people and I've got to have been able to change it. Not because I wanted to because they changed themselves. Well, because you just had a conversation with them. Sometimes you just got to love people and I've also had conversations with people that came up to me and apologized. Really? I'm not sure why I apologized because the things I said about you and how I thought about you, I said it's fine because it's okay.  And they're like, well, no, no, I don't want to apologize because I feel bad and it's okay. It's fine. It's okay. Don't worry about it. It's me. It's really not big deal. It's all done good then. And they change. And there's no other that old expression that they don't recognize. Absolutely. If you're serious, people recognize that. And they may, you know, come pick at you a chance if you're gonna double or not.  Even when they disagree with you. They may disagree with you. Right, sure. But they will respect you as a result that, you know, yeah, he's serious. He's the same person every time. He doesn't get involved in stuff. And that goes back to number two, believing in a lie and doing the right thing. That's all you need. I'm telling you, as long as it's not complicated, man, for me, it's not very simple. I don't have to address a certain way or look a certain way. All I need to do is just do the lie and just be a good human being. That's it. Islam is that simple. You know what I mean?  I got it. You gotta get some of that.  I just got myself.  But you've already studied a lot. You have the tools to be able to figure out things you got here on your own, right? None of us, none of those dozen meshes got you here. You got here by yourself with the success from God. He got you here. But, you know, if anything ever comes up, just reach out to us.  And just say, you know, I have some trusted sources. Just gonna double check, you know, and not be swayed. But you don't look like the person who's gonna be easily swayed. Ah, you're very stubborn. I can't be swayed. That's a real difference. I mean, that's a good thing.  You need to do that, you know. And sometimes, and they, didn't mean well. They're coming from a good spark in their heart. That's their interpretation that a person has to look a certain way or act a certain way to be a model Muslim, right? But what they forget is that we're on different levels of evolution in our faith. Some people are up here. Some people are down here, you know. And you can't always meet people where you want them to be. You have to meet them where they are. And I think that's the most important thing, that I get that too. I go to a Muslim sometimes. They want me to, brother, you need to do this and that. You just say thank you. And that's it. You can't tell me. No, it's okay. I'll keep you moving. I'll do it right now. Okay. Good. I'll put it up. All right. Well, I think we've got a, and there's got some more. There's got some, I'm here for you and you've got a deal. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you.