All right, guys, here we are again, day number three at the 21 Convention London, the men's conference of the century. Yeah, exactly. So coming to the stage next is a very animated, fun guy, and if nothing else, you'll love his hairstyle. Please welcome Sasha Daygame. Thanks, dude. Cool. What's up? I know what you're all thinking.  DJ Fuji, what? No, no. How are you guys doing?  Everything's good? Happy? Fun? Good.   Like, basically, when I found out there was extra time, I just basically was just like, Anthony, dude, trust me. Trust me. Look at me. I contact. Put Marcus on. He's awesome.   I'm just like, yes. And we're actually very similar in what we do.  And we could go on for like hours.  But yeah, man, for us, it's always been about just having fun, entertaining ourselves. It's like a really key thing. And like me personally, I've been doing stand-up comedy my whole life since I was like 18 years old. That's it. I've never done anything else. I've never had a real job. I've just always been telling jokes. And that's kind of really permeated throughout my existence. And I just love making people smile. That's just my thing.   We just, it was really funny. But it's, and I found that by, again, by entertaining myself and just really loving making people smile and having fun, that has gotten me a lot of success because again, as Marcus was saying, I really put my own amusement first. When I meet people, it's like I want to meet them and I want to have fun. I want to enjoy myself.  I love it. And throughout the years, I, you know, I brought other elements into that. So like, you know, being really direct. Recently I've been on this massive direct thing. So I like, you know, like, like flirting with girls and telling them they're hot and just being really honest and expressing myself. And I think I talk, and it's hard to really sell out what I want to talk about.   I think that's my favorite new expression. So that's it really.    And I find when you're just out there actually enjoying yourself and having fun, that trumps everything.  That destroys, what am I going to say next? Or body, oh, I got to keep my shoulders back and I got a good body line.   That is so much more attractive. That destroys everything else. That trumps your body language.  I'll come in like this from the side.   When you walk into a bar, okay? You walk into like a bar, whatever I say.  If you look in that room and you're like, okay, there's some chicks over there and yeah, okay, we'll just don't look at that.  As soon as they see you, they're just like, yeah, okay.  Doesn't matter. You walk into a bar, you're talking with your friend.      You're not caring about what people are looking at you or what people are thinking.  Everyone wants to be in that bubble. You know, you've all seen that. You're there somewhere and you just see a group of people. You could be on a bus. There's just a group of people and they're just having fun. They don't care. They don't care they're being loud. They don't care people are watching them. They don't care about any of that.  I want to be like that. I want to be in that group.   That is going to get you so much success. You're going to meet so many interesting people. You know, you're going to meet other people who are on that energy level who just want to have fun. You're going to meet girls. You know, all the girls that I've met in my life, you know, that's what I'm attracted to.  Those are the most amazing people in my life and by coming up to women or just people and being that way immediately, I'm meeting the people that I want to because if I just come up and do some goofy stuff and girls look whatever, I'm just like, okay, there's nothing for me to continue.  I can tell you're creating that. There's immediately vibing with me and they're joking and they're having fun. Instantly, I'm like, it's on. It's on. I like this girl. Okay? I don't have to fake any stuff. I don't have to build any attraction. The chick like, like, I'll be telling the girl what I really feel.  You're laughing at my jokes. You're smiling. You've got a great energy. I fucking, you know, I love you. You're so cool. And that's all true. I don't have to fake anything ever. I would never fake an emotion. I would never pretend to be anything. I'm not because I'm looking.    And I'm going to share with you guys some of the stuff I get up to, that's just fun. That's just fun and always, it's always about me. That's the thing, this is always about me. It's not about oppressing anyone. It's not about anyone else but you. It's all about you. This is the one area where you can just be selfish, man. It's all about you.  Okay, and this is something that Marcus taught me, actually, initially. That's right. I told you I would plug you properly. So much of the stuff, like I've learned more from this guy than anybody. And so it's pre-frames, right?  Oh my God, I have to talk to you.  But the problem is, if you come up to somebody out of nowhere, and again, I'm talking about just like coffee shops walking down the street, whatever.  They'll just be like, what? They don't know how to handle it. And so one of the advantages to not just having fun, but using pre-frames, you'll see is it gives people a moment to take in what you're doing and just realize, okay, this guy's not crazy cool. Give you an example. So how do I have fun with this?  I'm going to mess with people. All the time I'm going to mess with people. So for example, come up to a girl who's just like soaking hot and I'll just be like, hey, don't take this the wrong way, right? Build up that, they're like, what?  Who are you?  Like whatever they're thinking. I'm building up to something really bad. Like, hey, you know, don't take this the wrong way. They're like, what? And it just builds up that tension.  I had to come talk.  Okay, releases the tension, right? Having fun.  Okay, do it all the time. It might be something as simple as just like, hey, I know this is a bit weird. Stare it a little bit.  What's your name? We mess with people like every opportunity we can.  But can I get a bottle of water? And they're like, what does that have to do with nothing, bro?  We're just like, no, I just want to make you smile. Dude, you're here behind the counter. You're working all day.  And we mess with people all the time and it just makes people happy and they're smiling. It's great. And I take that vibe and I use it with women and it's just awesome. Like I remember this one time I walked into a McDonald's. I used to do this all the time. I'm going to McDonald's and this girl, she's just there and like they're just used to people just being really normal. You see, I like, I'll have a big man. Okay, cool. I'll have some fries, okay, cool. So all of a sudden I'm just like, hi, can I get a, can I get a whopper with cheese? And she's just like, what?  That's going to be awesome. She's like, we don't have that. I'm like, you have that. I want a whopper. She's like, we don't, we don't have that. We, this is, this is McDonald's. You want Burger King? I'm like, look, I know what I want.  Give me the whopper. I want it right now.  They're like, look, sir, this McDonald's. I'm like, let me talk to the manager right now. You're not going to give me what I want. I'm the customer. Give me the manager right now. Manager comes over. I'm arguing and then after a while I'll bring like, fine, you're not going to, all right. I accept you don't have whoppers, but I'm the customer. I want to spend my money here.  Make me happy. They're like, no, I'm like, I'm the customer. Eventually, you know, sometimes you get thrown up, but this one particular girl, this one particular girl, at the end of it, I just can't just like, I'm totally messing with you. We're just having fun. She was like, oh my God, I can't believe it.  This never happens. And we just made her a day and I was just messing with her because it was fun. But if that girl was my type, if that particular girl, that particular incident was hot, Jesus. It would just be like, you're cool. You love, you have to come out with us.  That's it. We do it all the time, man. All the time.  One of my favorite ones is a sandwich rental. Okay. Walking through a shop, dead serious. It should be like, hi. Yeah, yeah. Just put a sandwich down. She'd be like, hi, I want to rent this sandwich. And be like, what? And be like, I don't want to buy it. Like I might be hungry later, but I'm not sure. So I want to like maybe rent it. And then like, if I'll eat it, I'll come back and pay for it. But if not, I just want to have it with me just in case. And they're like, we can't do that. I'm like, listen, I want to rent the sandwich. I'm the customer. You're this capitalism. Make me happy. I want to rent the sandwich. They're just like, no. Again, whatever.  And I'll be like, you know what? Fine. If you're not going to rent me a sandwich, I'll go eat somewhere else. I'll slam the sandwich down and I'll walk out of the shop. I do it because it's funny. You know, we've done all kind of, we can go on for ages. First time at his mum, the original vodka prank, the first time I met Marcus's mum, I had the vodka with the water in it. And I came up to her and I'm just like, oh, hi, how are you doing? And I'm holding it in my hand. I was being really nervous and I just went, she went to shake my hand and I was like, oh, I get nervous meeting new people and I did it. And I drank the entire thing of water. Oh, look, look, look, look, look. It just burped in the sugar hand. And she's just looking at me and I'm just looking at her. And I went, it's just water. And she went, ah, Marcus got me good ones.  And he runs into, he runs into his room and he's like, dude, there's a hot chick outside. Her car broke down. She's really hot. And, you know, he's got a girlfriend. He's just like, yeah, I'm here. I'm just like, oh, sick, awesome. Okay, so I come out and I'm just like, and I just totally just be like, hi, how are you doing? Like, what's going on? She's like, yeah, my car broke down. I'm like, yeah, we'll help you with that. But you're totally cute though. You're so hot. I'm like, what's the story with you? What's going on? You know, maybe it's fate. You, me, it's a beautiful thing, you know, right? And I'm just totally fine. And it's going really well, right? I get her number. I'm just like, yeah, we'll hang out. It'll be wicked.  I got her number. It's awesome. And so Marcus is like, all right, we're going to help her get her car going. And we're like, yeah, opportunity to be a man. Yes. We're going to push that car. So I come out, we come outside and, and we're there and we're like, we're getting ready to like do the thing where you push the car and she's going to do the thing with the key. And it's, you know, we're taking her positions. And at one point Marcus just looks at her and says, you're, you know, you look amazing. And I'm like, what? And he leans in and he just starts making out with his shirt. Making out with her. And I pause and I look at her and I'm looking at her.  And I went, this is your girlfriend, isn't it? And he goes, yeah. I'm like, oh. Dick. Right.  It was so funny. Right. We're always doing that shit, man.  But again, so, so preframes. Yeah. Anything you can think up, you know, yeah, don't take this the wrong way. Listen, I've got nothing against homosexuals, but what's your name? I'm like, what? I'm like, I don't know. I've got nothing against heterosexuals. It doesn't matter. Doesn't even have to make sense. But just all the time messing with people. And it's all just about having fun and making myself smile. It's great.  That's it. I'm just having fun and cracking myself up. I'm going to teach you guys a couple of things that hopefully you can actually walk away from. I talk a lot. We all talk too much.     It's going to be funny. And in doing that, you're going to meet them every time.  And that's going to get, that's going to, you're going to meet everyone you want to.  Hey, listen, I'm not saying we can't be boyfriend and girlfriend, but you've got an amazing ass, whatever. It doesn't matter. Okay, those are wicked. Okay, so, so flirting, right? So I love flirting. Flirting is real. It's like the easiest thing in the world and guys are like, I don't know how to flirt. I don't know what to say. And it's just like the easiest thing. First of all, be shameless. Right? Like if you're going to flirt with a chick, be absolutely shameless always.  I'm flirting or I'm trying to pick up this chick or I'm trying. Dude, you're a man. She's a woman. She's hot. There's nothing to be ashamed of. Be absolutely relentless in what you're doing. There's nothing wrong with it. It's a beautiful thing. We're put on this planet to make sweet love and make baby. Come on. We're all here for one reason. You know what I'm saying? If it wasn't for making sweet love, we wouldn't be here. It's fine. What you're doing is natural and good. So when I come to girls, check this out. My mindset, I always assume that no matter what happens, girls are trying to pick me up all the time. If a girl looks at me, I'll just walk up to her and be like, hey, I saw you check me out just then. I'd be like, what? I'm like, I saw you check me out.  You were picturing me naked. I could tell that's what you're doing. It's totally fine. I'm a very sexy man. Totally fine. But you know, you can just come over and say hi. You're friendly.  Totally fine. What's your name? Even if a girl's never looked at me, a girl can be standing there looking that way. I'll come up behind her and just tap her on the shoulder. Excuse me. Hi. I saw you check me out just then. She'll be like, what? I'm not even. I'm like, yeah, totally you did. It's fine. It's cool. I get this all the time, obviously. But you can just say hi. What's going on? What's your name? It doesn't matter what they do. It doesn't make any difference. Any opportunity, I'll just assume girls are trying to pick me up. Again, one of our ones, in a conversation, a girl could be like, pass the ketchup. And I'll be like, is that a sexual innuendo? And I'll be like, no, I wanted ketchup. Oh, OK. I just thought you were totally fine if you are. I mean, I'm up for it. I'm just saying you could just be direct. You don't have to be like, pass the ketchup. You know what I'm saying? It's totally fine. It doesn't matter what they do. I'll just always be like, you're trying to pick me up right now. Do you always do this? How many guys have you? I flip around on them.  Just wondering. I'm not jealous. I'm just wondering. Always flip it on them. That's number one. Every girl is trying to pick me up. Great mindset. You do that. Any interaction, you could just be like, whoa. Are you hitting on me? Fine if you are. I'm just wondering. Beautiful. Works really well. Number two, this one is really fun. Number two is this. It's denying that I'm flirting with a girl. Denying I'm flirting with a girl. This is very funny. And it just gets them smiling and chatting and laughing.  It's this simple. I used to do it this way. I used to run up to a girl on the street.  Another favorite of mine. Don't panic. This is not a robbery. Great proof. They're a little bit scared. Don't panic. It's not a robbery. And just so you know, I'm not selling anything. Just so we're clear. Not selling anything. A lot of people on the street are trying to sell me stuff. So, you know, she's like, OK, cool. I'm like, cool.  And they try and get models. And then you pay the money for the portfolio. And then you don't get it. It's a scam. You don't get any work out of it. I'm not one of those guys. Just so you know, they're like, yeah, yeah. That's cool. I'm like, cool.  I didn't come over to hit on you or anything. Like pick you up.  Not doing that. Just so you know. She's like, yeah, yeah. Totally fine. Not a police officer. You've done nothing illegal. You're not, you haven't broken any laws. Just so you know, there's nothing. You've done nothing wrong whatsoever. Just so we're clear. He goes, yeah, yeah, that's totally cool. That's fine. Cool. I'll be honest with you. There's probably like a 25% chance I'm hitting on you. But 75% chance I'm not hitting you. Just so you know. Yeah, that's fine. I'm not one of those artists.  And they try and do the art.  And they try and sell you the thing. I'm not one of those guys. Just so you know. I'm not one of those guys. She's like, yeah, that's fine. At this point they're smiling and laughing. I'm just like, just so you know, I'm not one of those dudes. She's like, cool. Yeah, I feel a little bit guilty because I might have misled you. But there's probably more like a 50% chance I'm hitting on you. But that's not any more than 50%. So we're clear. She's like, yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I'm not like a martial arts teacher. And I'm going to try and like sign you up to my martial arts class. Maybe I go to a martial arts academy. So you know, it's not like that. I don't teach anything like that. I'm trying to sign you up. She's like, yeah, that's totally fine. I feel a little bit guilty because I might have just misled you a bit before. There's maybe more like a 75%, maybe 75% chance that I'm... All right, let's be honest. I'm hitting on you. I pretty much came over to hit on you. So hi. You're hot. What's your name? What's going on? Now, can you see how that can never go wrong?  She's either going to think this guy's fun. He's funny. He doesn't really care.  Awesome. She's going to step into your reality and just have a great time. Or they're just going to be like, what? No, and they just completely won't get it at all. And I'll be like, it's a joke. Get it. I'm hitting on you, but I'm denying it. They'll be like, what? And I'll be like, it's fine. Don't worry.  Has nothing to do with me. Right?  I only want to meet the people who are going to be in that bubble with me. Okay? That's it. You don't want to join my little reality. I don't want you there. I don't need you there. Okay? Another example. Same thing. Just shorter. I don't know why I did that long version. It was the denial open. We were like, yeah, it's the denial open. It's awesome. We never really told anybody, but it is fun. Another great one. Again, this is about being shameless. Right? Shameless. But I don't want a bus. I want a bus. And there's like some smoke. It could be empty. It could be like midnight. There's a smoking hot girl in the front of the bus.  Like there's one hot girl.  And it's awkward.  She's still hot. Damn it. I can't just, it's going to be weird. Okay. Okay? This is my mindset. Totally shameless. I'll get on the bus. She's at the front, right? I'll get on. I'll walk to the back. Walk up to the front. Look around. You know, look at her a bit. Look at the seat next to her. Look around a bit more. Look at the seat next to her. Walk right up to her and just go, hey, is this seat taken? And she'll be like, oh, no. And I'm like, oh yeah, do you mind? She'll take her bag off and I'll sit down right next to her. And I'll be like, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking I sat next to you to hit on you or something, but that's not it at all. I just, I like this seat and you're having to be next to it, but that's, you know, just a coincidence. And she'll be like, okay, yeah, that's fine. Just thinking like, what the fuck? And I'll just look away just for a few seconds. I mean, not that I wouldn't hit on you.  There's nothing wrong with you or anything. I'm just saying this time in particular, I didn't come over to hit on you, but there's nothing, obviously, you're very attractive and everything. She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I feel like I have to hit on you now to prove that I would. So, hey, you're hot. What's your name? Where are you from? And I'll do like a cheesy pickup. I'll be like, I'm not very good at this. So, you know, what's your name? I was influenced by a, that was Woody's version of the Denial Open. So, and it's just, I'm entertaining myself, man. I'm entertaining myself and I'm going over there and I know I'm offering a good time.   I'm going over there. No, I'm going over there because like this shit's hot. I'm going to talk to him and have fun. I'm going to enjoy myself.  There's nothing can go wrong. It's either going to, again, it's either going to go well or it's going to be funny. I mean, there's no, there's no, you can't lose.  So that's it. Ah, my flirting frames. Good times.   And I written them down. So this time I'm going to get through everything correctly. Right. Cool. I need water. Just a quick shout out to everyone on the internet.  Are you having a good YouTube experience? Thanks for tuning in. Just thought that would be nice because obviously it's all for the guys here at the event. I don't want the people later watching this be like, it's like they don't know we exist. We know you exist. Next time come to the event, you douchebags. All right, good. So quick question. I'm just curious, right?  God damn. Like if you're not doing that, don't be shy. Put your hands up if that's kind of what you're doing. Okay.    I've never seen people's before. Okay. I like your shoes.  What? So. With me. In the, in the recent years, like basically my story is an interesting story because like I was friends with a, you know, very well known, uh, pickup artist dude since the late nineties. And, uh, so I was around like all the indirect stuff for such a long time. And, uh, it never felt right for me, man. Like from like 1998, I was aware of it.  And then I, you know, I read the book, the game. And then in 2007, I was like, you know what, man, I want to, I want to get better with shakes.     You locked me inside you. It's fine. So. See, some of you laughed a little too hard there, which makes me nervous. That's all I'm saying. So I had, I had natural advantages. You know, I was doing stand-up and whatever, but like I could never, I could never like pick a girl. I could never look at a girl and be like, that girl is amazing. I'm going to go, I'm going to talk to her. I was just absolutely petrified of, of talking to girls. It was really brutal.   You know what I mean? Like tell me the end of the, whatever she finds out I want to have sexual intercourse with her. If she finds out I want to put my cog in her vagina, it's all over. I might as well just jump off a building. And it was just, it was brutal, man.   Okay, great. It's brutal, man. It's brutal. And I was like, it was like really bad. I was super needy with, with chicks. Like every time I met a chick that I actually liked, I'd just be like, they just like run away. I bought a stripper, a car for like $38,000. Anyone do that one? No? Okay. And then I just went, damn. You guys are like, I blew 25 bucks for dinner on this chick. I didn't even get a $38,000. Cool. So we just established that.  And it all came from neediness, man.   It's so much easier. This is what I've been doing now for like, for a while.   Like first thing you notice, like be honest with yourself.  That's what it all comes down to. I look at a girl now and I'm just like, God damn, look at her. I got a stomach fetish. I don't know, anyone like a stomach man? Stomach, anybody? One dude? All right, me and you brother, you two guys here.   So basically like, I'm sure he has like a flat stomach. I'm just like, God damn, yes. You know, I like the petite girls and with just the, oh man. So if I see that, I'm like, God damn. And recently I've been, I've been like looking at girls asses.  You know, but it's changing. My tastes are changing. But I know what I'm attracted to. And when I see a woman I'm attracted to, I'm just like, God damn.  That's yummy. And I immediately, I'm just like, right, I'm going to go over there and instantly, like zero second rule. I see a girl, I'm just like, wow, okay, boom. I go straight over there and I tell her exactly what I'm thinking. Exactly what I'm thinking.  It doesn't make any difference. Like anything. Usually nine times out of 10, whatever I'm thinking is based on her looks.    Yeah, that's the first thing you thought, be honest. But generally it's going to be your looks. And if she's just absolutely stunning, if she's like the hottest girl in the world, I will walk up and be like, what are you doing?  You should be behind bars. There's no, how are you walking the streets dressed like this? Everything's hanging out.   What do you do?  Right? I'm angry that she's this hot.  This is wrong. I'm not supposed to see this in life. I have things to do.  Right?  And genuinely, this is what girls do. They go, huh. And then they want to talk to you and they're like, cool. The last girl, you know, they'll just be like, yeah, one girl like dragged me up here.    Cool. Nice day, isn't it? Yeah, it's a really nice day. Okay, well I'll see you later then. I just fuck, man.  I'm going to go up there. They're laughing because they know. You know, I've got a couple of my girlfriends here. They know.   Again, who gives a shit? You're going over there. You want to express yourself. First thing I see, and if it's like great ass, I'll just be like, hey, and again, I'll throw in one of those pre-frames.  So I'll just be like, hey, don't take this the wrong way.    They just, they just go, you can actually see them sometimes just go, and that's not even that direct.       I can't just, you know, I can't, you know, you can't do it.  You're either, she's either, if you meet the right type of girl at the right time, you're going to get laid, you're just going to get laid.  Worst scenario? My god, they run away. Funny story, category. I told this girl she had a great ass, she fucking, she tried to kick me in the knee and she ran off. Funny, funny story for me. This was my story for years, the worst thing that ever happened to me. I was in a coven garden part of London and these girls were walking by and the one in the middle, I liked her, she was hot and these girls were, and I tried to like, you know, chat them out, I was just like, hey, what's up guy? And they just completely blanked me.   Love your bum.  See, there's no recovering from that. There's no recovering from that.  And I think the only, since that story, the only bad thing that happened to me once is I was teaching this event where I was like getting guys to be directing until girls are hot. There's like 25 of us standing on a corner and this woman walks around and she makes a little, again, like just in the moment she made a little joke like, hey, it's one pound, you know, one pound to pass us.  She doesn't say anything, she just walks by.  And I run over there and I'm just like, huh, and all I got out of my mouth was, huh, and she just went mental. You motherfucker, you think I'm a hooker and she took her bag, she started hitting me with the bag and just kicking me and scratching me with a nail and chasing me around 25 and she starts attacking every guy that's there. So there's one chick trying to beat up 25 dudes, right?  Obviously she had a bad day. And all I said was, hi. That was it. I said, hi. Okay?  Like, it's hilarious. I tell people, like, hey, what's the funny thing that happened? There's a chick attack 25 dudes, it was awesome.  It's all about that. So don't be afraid of the swings, man. They're all good. So, yeah. And so I got to find, like, once I started doing that shit and just like, seeing women just being like 100%, just like 100% authentic and like what I'm feeling, then everything changed for me because I was going around enjoying myself and just being fun, but then being really, really, really honest with girls about what I wanted and just telling them.   I'll have a chat with them, whatever. And at some point, I'll just stop and I'll just look at them and just be like, we're going to have so much fun together.  Like, if you have that feeling and you're talking to them and you're just like, God damn, tell her, man. Tell her what you're feeling because it's, you know, again, too many guys are worried about what women are thinking. It's like one of David look them up if you haven't. Don't worry about what she's thinking.  Everyone's just, oh, they're up there in their heads. Oh, what if I see as well?  You don't know what she wants.  You don't have a vagina. You're not her. Okay? So, worry about what you want. Express it. Because if she wants that too, you're done. You're in there. That's it.   Cool, you know.  Oh, you're kind of cute, but whatever.  Stop holding those emotions back.  I got one of my students here. His nickname, well, not really proper anymore, but super AA guy, okay? Had a massive social, just terrible social anxiety. Just the thought of talking to women. How would you describe it?  Paralysed. He was paralyzed. He was paralyzed at the thought of coming up and talking to girls. And he once, he spent 45 minutes on our second session, just shitting in the McDonald's, shitting. It was brutal. Like, I've never seen anything like it. Okay, now, what were you doing last night? Yeah. Who's a cop?  Female cop, obviously. Otherwise, that would just be weird. Yeah, such a day game. Woo! My solution.  It's easier. That'd be funny. No.  What's going on?   You know, it's just, it's just, it's just, yeah, it's like the idea of coming up to a girl now who's smoking hot and just being like, hey, so, yeah, my, my friends, girlfriends out of town and they gave me some money to buy her a gift. And yeah, I just, a lot to come over and talk to you and stuff.   Most girls that are hot, they know what's going on.  And they're not attracted to pussies. They're attracted to dicks. And that's their lesbian, it's a different story.    All right, I'm going to pause it there. So, anybody have, because I need water, I don't have any questions. I'm a fast talker and I kind of go, somebody's got a question? Oh yeah. Yes, sir. Not this guy. Shoot. No man, I wanted to ask this because, and you don't talk about this a lot, you didn't talk about this in your speech, but you have a lot of experience in the community. And I think, that's not to be overlooked. But what was your evolution of stuff? Because, you mentioned it briefly, you didn't necessarily start out direct, you rolled with some pretty big players, some defining players. And you came into this, and I think that that's important, because you have pretty much more experience, what was it like, 90, 98? Yeah, so you have more experience than pretty much everybody in this room of being in the community. And what was your evolution of that? Okay. Yeah, it's a good question. Fuck. That's a long journey. Where to begin?  It was Mystery, it was Mystery's first wingman, in like 98. So this was like, I was doing stand-up, and it was like before all this stuff was kind of written. So, yeah, so again, it was all, it was all about the magic back then.   Good for getting attention. And so for me, it just, I don't want to learn magic. I was like, I want to do that. I know a little bit from what he taught me that came later on. But yeah, I didn't like it. I didn't like clubs, and I just all felt wrong. And the whole idea of having to go out to meet chicks, it struck me as wrong. Like why would I have to go somewhere to a specific place in time to meet women and spend money? Like it didn't make any sense. And for a long time, I just knew it wasn't working and I almost kind of dropped it. And I went off to do stand-up comedy, which is my passion. And years went on where I would, once in a while, I'd approach a girl, it would always be some kind of crap, you know, I'd find a reason to talk or whatever, and it would just go nowhere. Like once in a while, I'd get lucky, but it was just crap. And I always had this feeling that it's just like I wasn't happy because I just didn't have it under control. And it's really frustrating because I was just such a pushy, like I'd have girls in the bed with me in their underwear and there's a pretty good hint. She's naked in the bed. I think it's a green light. Better not be, better not take the chance. Let's just sleep and you know, maybe she'll jump on top of me. Like what?  So that went on for years and it was funny. So years went by and I was doing stand-up comedy and then I ran into a guy called Cajun, who some of you might be familiar with, on a bus in Canada. This was like 2006, I guess it would be. And we started talking because he was talking about girls on a bus and I was as well. And we got off the bus and he was like, yeah, yeah, I said this to these girls and you know, he was just learning with them and I'm just like, yeah, here's a funny line and here's a pickup line whenever we start talking about this stuff. And I actually just said, oh, I said, this is like years ago. I said, oh yeah, sometimes I do this little magic trick. So I showed him this like this cool trick, the mystery Tommy and he was just like, who taught you that? And I was like this dude called, you know, Eric, he was like a, yeah, mystery.  He's famous now. Like there's a book and he's like rich and I was like, he's rich? Fuck, he still owes me some money. Awesome. I could get paid. And so, you know, basically, I read the book and then I got in touch with Mystery and you know, introduced Cajun to Mystery and then he told me about this, this layer called the London Seduction Society here in London. And Mystery's like, yeah, you should look it up. It's, you know, it's a big layer. I was like, cool. And I looked it up and I went, you know, and I joined it and I was back in London and this was like 2007 and I joined it. It was all these guys who were just like dedicated like going out and like it was mainly guys going to clubs, going out and meeting chicks and who were really taking steps and like on improving themselves and I was massively like, I was like, fuck, this is so cool.  And that's when I just snapped.   I'm going to do this. And I just started going out every day. I didn't really read anything. I just, I literally went out and just started going out and like hitting on girls all day long. Like 15, 16 hours a day with various people we had was one of them. And it was just became an obsession, just became an obsession. And I did it so much I just desensitized myself to like rejection or results. I didn't care. I just went out and I started having fun. I just started developing the fuck, enjoying myself. But for the first while I was still doing indirect stuff and then one day I was just like I'm just going to go tell her she's hot.  It just became more and more. And yeah, it just went on. Things got better. And eventually I discovered like, you know, like the direct masters like David X, Alan Roger Curry, Bad Boy.  And I just started and that's when I just started killing it.  And it's weird because it's like they almost kind of go counter to each other being fun which is my thing and being direct.   She was like, never. Exactly.


Look, I think the biggest threat to American democracy is the rise of political extremism and couple that with political intimidation and violence, and you've got a much more volatile situation in our country.


I want you to imagine for a moment what death is like. If you're like many people, you may be picturing nothingness, a void, an abyss, or an eternal sleep. But does this make sense? Is consciousness immune to death? We'll explore this topic and respond to a recent podcast from Sam Harris on this episode of Lifespan News. Sam Harris, the well-known author and neuroscientist, recently released an episode of his Making Sense podcast titled The Paradox of Death. In it, he rearticulated and seemed to endorse the idea of generic subjective continuity, described by philosopher Thomas Clarke in an essay called Death, Nothingness and Subjectivity, which is written from the view of a naturalist and materialist. According to Clarke, this essay is intended to critique a widespread misunderstanding of death as a plunge into oblivion, and I think it does that quite well. But then it concludes with something that Clarke admits feels mystical, and I think this is where the argument goes off the rails, and warrants a response from a life extension perspective. I'm a frequent listener of Sam Harris's podcast, and even though I do have my disagreements with him, I find that he's typically worth a listen. But I can't get on board with this take, and I'll tell you why. But first, let's start with where I think there's agreement. At the beginning of this, I asked you to imagine what death is like. In a recent video, I discussed how William Shatner saw the blackness of space on a Blue Origin rocket launch and described the experience to Jeff Bezos as seeing death. So you may have pictured something like that. But in reality, my request to you doesn't even make sense. Absence, some discovery that changes what we know about death. Dead isn't a state that you can be in. Because dead is the absence of you. It is not like anything to be dead.  You can experience dying, you can't experience death, so it doesn't even make sense to try to imagine it. I expect that many of you agree with this so far, and if you don't, please let me know why in the comments below. But now, let's move on to where Clark and Harris lost me, with an argument that is said to be derived from naturalism and materialism, but does come across as mystical and supernatural. And at least to me, not as helpful or uplifting as they intend it to be. And it starts off in a very uncontroversial manner. We've all slept. Some of us have been knocked out or under general anesthesia. So we've all undergone periods of altered consciousness or unconsciousness. And from the points of view of the individual, consciousness was consistent. You didn't experience unconsciousness, because that doesn't make sense. You simply went from a state of consciousness at one time in place, to a state of consciousness in another time in place. You did not experience being unconscious in the meantime. If you did experience something within that gap period, then you weren't unconscious. This, I think, is pretty easy to understand. Now, let's complicate things a bit. During this period of unconsciousness, your body aged. Changes, however imperceptible, occurred. In the events of general anesthesia, perhaps you had a part of your body removed, or replaced with an artificial version, a version from a cadaver, or from a still living human. In this case, fairly significant things about you have changed. But when you snap back into consciousness, you are still you, the self or identity that existed before unconsciousness is preserved after unconsciousness. This is what Clark refers to as personal subjective continuity. But how far can we extend this? Let's say you sign up for cryonics and are vitrified. Thousands of years later, on an entirely different planet, you are reanimated. But you didn't experience those thousands of years. From your perspective, it would likely feel the same as falling asleep last night and waking up this morning. That personal subjective continuity was preserved across time and distance. But now let's say that there were some drastic changes that occurred during those thousands of years. Maybe you experienced some deterioration, and memories faded or personality traits were lost. Perhaps you underwent genetic modifications. Maybe while meaning future scientists removed all the traumas and sadness from your memories, and replaced them with happy fictions that never happened. Maybe they removed old body parts, and replaced them with new ones. How far can we push these changes until whatever snaps into consciousness is no longer you, but someone or something else? Now, we can get into debates about the mind-body problem and whether or not we are individuals or if the self is an illusion, or if we even have any basis to the claim that we still are the person we were yesterday. And perhaps to be thorough, we should get into those things. But for the sake of time, we have to largely set them aside. And now we've reached where I begin to disagree with Clark and Harris. It seems that they would argue that there was a point where enough changes have occurred that that conscious being, post vitrification, is no longer the identity, the self, that it was before. That that consciousness was lost, and in essence, that person has died. And that a new consciousness has taken its place. We lost personal subjective continuity. But now we have generic subjective continuity. And Clark argues that this is essentially no different than going to sleep and having a new person wake up in your place. Just as when you fall asleep, there's no experience of unconsciousness. The difference here is that, with this awakened consciousness, we've lost that personal subjective continuity. From this point of view, consciousness didn't stop. It just transformed. We have a transformation of the subject. Perhaps there was a continuity of the body. A remaining link between the subject that was and the subject that is. But that body doesn't even have to remain consistent. We mentioned during my cryonics example, that perhaps scientists replace a vitrified person's body parts with new body parts. Let's imagine that happened in this scenario. Now the memories are different, the perceived identity is different, and even the body is different. What went to sleep last night is unrecognizable when compared with what woke up in its place. But there was still no experience of unconsciousness.  At least this is what Clark argues. And now we really get into the seemingly mystical. Clark ends by arguing that this transformation, in which one context of awareness dies and another arises, is no different than if you were to die and a new human were to be born. One death and one birth is akin to the transformation from one subject to another that in our example occurred during sleep. What's more, that gap between death and birth could be millions of years and galaxies apart. Clark says that subjectivity would jump that gap just as easily as it jumps the gap from our last experience before sleep to the first upon awakening. Clark admits that we've moved from the fairly uncontroversial fact of the continuity of one person's experience to what he calls a seemingly outlandish, but I would call a fully outlandish notion that consciousness is impervious to death or any sort of objective interruption. Now let me explain where and why I disagree with this. Clark and by extension Harris seem to argue that the loss of personal subjective continuity that would occur during the transformation process constitutes the death of one person and the birth of another. I don't think so. I think that a single being, a single instantiation of consciousness, survived the transformation process. The memories and identity and physical form may be different, but the consciousness is the same. No consciousness died and no new one was formed. Here's an example of what I mean. Railroad worker Phineas Gage had an iron rod destroy much of his frontal lobe in the 1840s. He survived, but his personality and behaviors had reportedly changed, so much so that his friend saw him as no longer Gage. Now there are questions about the extent of this personality change and for how long it lasted, but regardless of the facts of this actual case, we can imagine a person suffering brain damage to the point that they are indeed changed, that their memories are gone, that they are no longer recognizable as the person they once were, either to themselves or to others. This doesn't mean that they died and that a new consciousness arose, they didn't. Regardless of what they remember or what their personality is, a single instantiation of consciousness existed before and exists now. No death occurred.  I imagine all of these could theoretically result in a change in memory, identity or personality that Clark and Harris might be enticed to refer to as a loss of personal subjective continuity, especially if there's an intervening period of sleep or unconsciousness that separate one state from another, but they don't constitute a death or a birth. My personal take at this point is that you are a single instantiation of consciousness and it can die. And once that death occurs, it does not jump a gap of time and distance to a new being. I want to preserve my personal subjective continuity, but if I wake up tomorrow fully believing that I'm someone else and with none of my old memories, there was still no death. That's still what I would call me, a single consciousness, even if what my friends and family knew as me was gone and never to return. Just to clarify here, if during this period of sleep or suspension, my brain were removed and replaced or perhaps replaced by a new substrate for consciousness, such as an advanced computer, then I'd argue that it may be the case that there is actually a new consciousness present there, but it would not be a continuation of the old. Perhaps my removed brain could continue on, maintaining personal subjective continuity elsewhere, but that's not in my body. We lost that continuity. Clark ends by saying, to identify ourselves with generic subjectivity, is perhaps as far as the naturalistic materialist can go towards accepting some sort of immortality. It isn't conventional immortality, not even as good as living in others memory, some might think, since there is no one who survives, just the persistence of subjectivity for itself. It is possible that this view may make it easier to cope with the prospect of personal extinction, since if we accept it, we can no longer anticipate being hurled into oblivion to face the eternal blackness. We may wear our personalities more lightly, seeing ourselves as simply variations on a theme of subjectivity, which is in no danger of being extinguished by our passing. Of course, we cannot completely put aside our biologically given aversion to the prospect of death, but we can ask, at its approach, why we are so attached to this context of consciousness. Why, if experience continues anyway, is it so terribly important that it continue within this set of personal characteristics, memories, and body? If we are no longer haunted by nothingness, then dying may see more like the radical refreshment of subjectivity than its extinction. This, I take it, is meant to be comforting, but it's not. Believing that some consciousness will spring into being at some point in the future, and being told that that's no different than me falling asleep and waking up as someone else, doesn't do a lot for me. First of all, I do think it's different, but even if it weren't, it's only reassuring in the sense that it's reassuring to think about the fact that the atoms in our bodies could be recycled time and time again, living on in some sense, even in the event of our death. But a loss of personal subjective continuity is what I seek to avoid. It's what I believe we should all seek to put an end to. Even if that loss of personal continuity isn't equivalent to death, as I argue it isn't, it is what makes each of us who we are and who we identify as. And though we will all change over time, your skills, interests, knowledge, and likely appearance will be very different at age 60 than at age 20, for example, even if we're able to halt the physical aging process, there's a continuity of consciousness of a single experience that we should seek to preserve. So I'd argue that what proponents of life extension actually want to extend isn't just life or health, but a single personal subjective continuity that preserves at a minimum memory and identity. It's a lofty goal, but it's one I think we should strive for, and I don't think that we should settle for less than that. Thank you so much for watching, this was a very different episode of Lifespan News, and I'm interested to know what you thought, and to know your opinions on this topic. If you think I'm wrong, please tell me in the comments, I can take it, maybe you'll convince me that I'm wrong, and I would love for that to happen because then I would have a new, upgraded understanding. And I wrote this quickly after listening to Sam's podcast, and I certainly didn't have time to fully articulate and explore my thoughts, and there are so many tangents that I could have went down, such as the self and identity, and free will, and the ship of Theseus, and so much more. And I could go into those on future episodes, but first I want to know what you think. If this type of video was something that's interesting to you, we can do a lot more of them. If it wasn't, we don't ever have to do them again, so please let us know. Regardless, we are going to have a lot more content, and very different content coming up. So whether you love this, or hated this, I think you'll want to give the rest of our work a try. So please subscribe. This is Ryan O'Shea, and we'll see you next time on Lifespan News.


What's up guys welcome to today's video so on the video today? I'm gonna be sharing with you guys how to cut this really fun haircut. It's got a really nice fringe to it I'm gonna show you guys that technique plus I'm gonna show you guys how to create All this texture and the movement around the face and the second thing that I want to talk to you guys about is our brand new Tool, this is the tri razor by freesalon education. I don't know if you guys have picked one up if you have let me know in The comments below. Thank you so much for doing that. We're shipping them worldwide It's $44.95 not a lot of money But it's a super fun tool to create these texture looks so today I'm gonna show you guys how to cut this haircut using the tri razor and also doing it on dry hair which seems crazy I know a lot of you guys like well razor on dry hair seems crazy It's not there's a lot of prep work that goes into it So I'm gonna break that down for you guys I'm gonna show you guys how to do it these razor blades inside the tri razor are super sharp And you can change them out. You can always have a fresh blade going on So with all that being said I want to get started with the video today I'm gonna walk you guys through this step-by-step get involved in the comments post what you think if you have any questions Let me know make sure you subscribe to the channel like it hit that notification bell So you get a notification every time I post because we're posting all of the times. Let's go All right, so to start off this haircut what we're gonna do is we're gonna find the fringe area So the best way to do this is to really look for the hairline right at that temple And kind of work your way up now if they have finer hair and you want a heavier fringe Obviously gonna go a little bit further back But you got to understand that the further back you go on fine hair the more you take away from the side So you got to find the balance so what I do is I go straight up and then I do the same thing on the opposite side So you can see that hairline kind of work its way up through now on shop FSE. We have these velcro clips available They're one of my favorite things for dry hair short hair Just doesn't create any creases in the hair, which I really love and now I'm gonna go in this is the tri razor We've got the hundred percent cutting side 50 percent texture side and then a 25 percent texture side We're gonna use all that throughout this cut, but you know, it's a super fun tool to use One of the most creative tools I've used in my hand just because you have so many options and it's like drawing so To start off the fringe one of the biggest things For me is to not work through this section too fast So it might seem like I'm just kind of taking my good old time through this I am and I'm working that razor about a half an inch up and down at a time And you can see how that gives me a nice soft line But it still really follows through and has a purpose then what I do is I connect and I draw a short to long line on Each side now these don't have to be perfect It's more important to get the up and down of the razor. Correct Then you can go in kind of pinch cut a little bit Then I go in and I smooth it using my palmatial neuro iron and I add a little bit of bend to it You're gonna notice how that softness of the razor just kind of really makes this start to come together So once I get that ironed out then I go through with my scissor and I fine tune the edge So what the razor does for me is it gives me a Quick response it allows me to cut that fringe fast And then I can go in just do a little bit of detail work with the scissor if I did this with my scissor I'd have to really focus on elevation And then you know I'd spend a lot more time in the salon trying to get this fringe cut So I use the tri razor get a nice soft line and then go in and define it using my So we check the balance on both sides and then when we feel like you know We're ready to move on I let down the sides of the hair I might smooth them out just a little bit before I go into my dry razor cutting and I also sprayed on a Shine spray to give it a smoother effect on the cuticle then I go in hundred percent cutting side up and down movement about six inches wide The more movement you give it the more layered effect you're going to get in the face frame So it's a very simple Way to think about it the more you move the more movement you're going to create So the more I move the more movement I'll create and you can see the texture of the pop that creates the entire Side section for me and just a few kind of back and forth with the razor so Again super cool tool and do the same thing on the opposite side, and then we'll start working the back So basically what we've created here, and I'm using now the texturizing side. This is the 50% texture side So we've created a face frame And then I go in with just the front teeth of the texturizing side because that gives me the most open part of the blade So you don't just have to take out 50% of the hair. It's just allowing you to have a little bit different cutting surface So I use the tip of that to go in and remove and create some extra pieces around the face So you can really just draw it out, which is you know a very simple way to go about this So I just go through there Draw it with the corner of that triangle of the tri-raiser, and then I've got my finished look there So now what what have I done? I've pushed all the weight to the back of the head and this is something that I want you guys to look at So after I'm done with the front when I pulled all that hair forward and cut it all the weight now Remains in the back So that's what we're gonna go into next after we get done texturizing the side and we're gonna go in and cut not only the length Which is what we're gonna do first, but then we're gonna go in and create a little bit of layering through it as well So you can see I hold the hair down. I'm gonna go in with the 50% or the 50 texture side and that It's not because I want to cut 50% of the hair It's because it exposes more blade and I just kind of keep working that line So it allows me to cut more hair at once and just glide through the hair a little bit easier now It's gonna give me a softer more broken line as well. It's almost like point cutting your line But doing it much quicker and I just worked my way through so I chose my length here If you liked the longer hair you could keep the hair long as well You don't even have to do this step, but you can see how soft that line is on the bottom And I'll show you guys so I'm gonna go through I'm gonna finish my line Using that texture 50 side and then I'm gonna show you guys how to detail that so It's just the best like I just love watching how a razor works because you put so much effort into making things look and appear soft with a Scissor, but if you do it the opposite and you cut it with a razor first and then define it with a scissor You just get a very quick and awesome result So after we finish off that perimeter we're gonna move into the interior part of the back and What I'm gonna do for this is just kind of take out that crown area and clip it away using the velcro clip So I don't crease the hair allows me to work a little bit quicker through it So I keep the hair kind of parted over and I do the same thing on the opposite side And I'm gonna start creating depth within this haircut What I mean by that is if I cut layers underneath the longer layers that live on top It allows the longer layers that are on top to have a little bit more of a see-through or shadow effect Which can showcase a little bit of movement even though the layers on the top are gonna be a little bit longer So I start working in there now. Where am I gonna start cutting and what tool am I gonna use? I'm gonna be using a texturizing scissor. This is the Yoragi 6 From Mizutani we sell that on our website as well We also have payment plans for our scissors So if you're in the US or Canada and you're looking to purchase Mizutani scissors, please go to our website and get them there But I start working through and you can see I'm working in a diagonal fashion. You can see how easy that's Texturizing scissor glides through the hair. I'm working that nape area just to create That underneath depth now when the longer layers fall over it You'll start to see a little bit more movement throughout the haircut So you can kind of see how it moves over top of those layers So now I'm gonna do a little bit of the same thing in the back here I'm just to add a little bit more layering You don't have to again if you want to keep those top layers longer you can The options are really endless and I never want you guys to think that this is such a literal thing You have to copy everything that I'm doing Just think about each of these as a technique for you. So now a little bit of detail work Acro leaf wide texturizing scissor through the top fringe Section just to soften it and now I go in with a little bit more of that. I'll apply while ginger shine spray It's an aerosol. It makes the hair super shiny You so you can see that kind of straighter version of the haircut and now I'm gonna show you guys a wavier version a little bit More of a modern twist to it leaving those ends out a little bit for a little straighter effect But you can just really see the pop of the texture through it So let's finish up the style here, and then I'll show you guys the end result Okay, so there you go. There's the end result. I hope you guys like it. It's just super fun I mean, this is like a haircut that you could really put on anybody Obviously the hair color has a fun twist to it But imagine if this was a balayage beautiful blonde or you know a brunette with block coloring and movement in depth You know it could be anything but this haircut would fit it. 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Thanks for checking out this video. So this is one of my kind of opinion pieces and if you've seen the title you're clicking on this You know, this has to do with the very recent Very public on as in on social media Controversy about the podcast Nightmare on Film Street, which had to do with some issue with them Contacting other people who have podcast or maybe even further than podcast names that are kind of similar to Nightmare on Film Street and I've seen a lot of responses online mainly on one side of it kind of chiding Nightmare on Film Street for what went on and I I stepped back and I was you know I just kind of took all the information in and I was kind of looking at it and I wanted to do this video as kind of a more tempered response to You know my thoughts just some thoughts that I worked through on it and I don't come down on any Sort of overall definitive thing where like this person's clearly a bad person or this what person's clearly a bad person because as Human beings, you know, we all make mistakes or we all have a tendency to go one way or the other at any given time But it's not necessarily the same all the time So I just wanted to offer some of my thoughts on it as more of a tempered response because like I said on social media Especially responses are always very extreme I think people just have a tendency to not really step back a whole lot not really think a whole lot before they post things and so a lot of people's comments on what's going on end up being just Based off of emotion and based off first thought and first response And it's weird because even though we have the ability like we're literally like either doing like voice to text Or we're literally with our thumbs or on a keyboard Putting the text in there to send out and we control when that happens We've just gotten to this point where there's like there isn't we don't feel like there's the filter that we can use Before we post that stuff So I guess that's another thing is maybe we should be a little more careful about that type of stuff But also in messages you send so if you're not familiar with what happened with Nightmare on Film Street and The the one the main one that's getting the other attention is Nightmare on Fear Street And I will say I don't listen to either of these podcasts. I actually don't listen to horror podcasts barely at all the only ones I actually listen to are every now and then faculty of horror and That's very rare Every now and then I'll kind of binge some episodes because they do good stuff and the one I listen to more frequently is Mick Eris's post-mortem podcast, which I do mainly for the interviews, but Typically I don't listen to podcasts in the realm of what I do So the fact that I do horror related stuff. I do horror reviews I typically don't listen to podcasts or Watch videos horror related because I don't want to be influenced by the content that I put out I don't want there to be a situation where I see someone's review on a movie and then an idea from their review enters my mind and it ends up in one of my videos because then that feels like Even if someone doesn't say anything it feels like I'm kind of taking something from someone else and I don't like that feeling So I'm just saying this to say I don't know any of the people involved in the controversy I've never listened to their podcasts at all. So I don't have a stake in this. I don't have a side I'm coming at it from a very outsider view Which I think is helpful actually So world can be I guess you can decide of what I'm saying is actually helpful but um So my initial thought was what actually happened if people don't know is that apparently nightmare on film Street had contacted nightmare on Fear Street to kind of say hey your name sounds pretty similar to our name as a podcast and We operate in some of the same groups online and kind of I think some of the terminology was We pop in in and out of some of the same communities so people could kind of get confused. I Can understand going to someone and kind of saying that the issue came up when it got more pushy With you know really you should change this you're potentially causing a problem So I think that overall nightmare on film Street was making a mistake Not in initially contacting nightmare on Fear Street. I mean that's fine You know, you can throw the idea out there float it and say hey Would you be open to changing your name or do you think we can work something out or even just do a collaboration? Maybe I don't know but I think the problem came where they got Emotional about it to a degree and they kept pushing and got I wouldn't say like outright mean but a little bit aggressive about it In really wanting them to change it now the the biggest problem there that I see is that they're Legally they can't do anything about it. Yes, they're similar names, but they're not the same You can't do anything about that. So Like I said, it was fine for them to reach out to nightmare on Fear Street and you know kind of friend in a friendly way ask Hey, but you need to remember that if they then turn around and say no, we're not going to do it And our name is different enough Then that's that's the answer like you have to then accept that and go away basically You can't then keep coming at a person because then you end up with a problem like this and in the this day and age of How the internet is and how social media is people will take to the internet and social media and throw All your beef out there, you know, if people have conflict It very seldom stays private at this point. So people need to be very Cognizant of that being a situation now one thing I will say is I have a craft beer podcast I've been doing for eight about eight years now. I think it's a little over eight at this point and At one point I was just curious to see if anyone else was using a podcast name That was close to mine because my podcast is called brutal battle. It's spelled B. R. E. W. T. A. L It's called brutal battle craft beer podcast So I looked up some years ago and I saw there was someone doing one called brutal hops and brutal spelled The same way now my response to that was that's cool And I actually made a comment to them actually listen to one of their episodes I mean and I sent a comment to them just like hey like what you're doing. Think it's awesome Good luck to you. I don't see a problem with it If your brand is strong enough in my opinion, excuse me if your brand is strong enough in my opinion People know where to go people know who you are. You're big enough I think this was an insecurity situation and one of the the people involved with Nightmare on film Street had actually posted about this in an apology on social media about hey, I messed up I let you know my emotions get the best of me. I got a little bit overprotective. I made a mistake So I think that a lot of that kind of played into it now Based off of that I think when people have a strong response and and then start saying that the the the individual In particular individual involved with nightmare on film street is now a bad person I don't think you can make that judgment call. They did something wrong. Yes. They made a mistake. Yes They did apologize for it now. I am also one of those people who says Trust but verify so I would Allow this person to have their apology publicly say okay You know, I acknowledge your apology, but I'll be looking for the actions that come after this apology to see if You're just saying something or if you're saying something and then acting the way that you say you're going to be acting from then on because We should allow people to make mistakes and I think Increasingly in our society and I think a lot because of how social media is We have a tendency to see someone make one mistake or do one mean thing or one thing bad and Brand them as an overall terrible person and that's not that's not necessarily the case Are there those cases? Sure here and there there are those cases, but I think the majority of the time That's not the case. No individual person is one thing. We're very complicated Individuals and I think that We should be given a little bit of space to make mistakes and make up for those mistakes and make changes One of the biggest things is, you know, I think the whole controversy that happened with James Gunn When he was you know, he became very big for doing Films for for Marvel, you know with his Guardians of the Galaxy films that were really well done Well, he got his start in trauma and things were very crude and things were very Over-the-top and ridiculous and he some tweets were pulled up that were pretty inappropriate With some jokes that he made online 10 years, I think it was about 10 years prior and people were calling for him to be fired because of that Well, I think in those types of instances He's changed as a person and I think Disney in the end said that They believed after talking to him and looking into the situation that he he did change enough so I Think it's one of those things like you need to look into it to see if What that person did was a one-time thing or is it a pattern? And if it is a pattern, maybe that is a core of who they are and we should be wary of that and we there need to Be ramifications, but if it's a situation where it's a one-time deal and somebody messed up They need to have that space to be able to apologize and change and move on without people also still attacking them So I say all this stuff just to say step back and think about these things don't respond with angry or Defensive or offensive or whatever thoughts and language online especially if it's not necessarily Your fight to get involved with you know what I mean There is something to be said for if you see something bad going on Standing up with the person who's being victimized and saying yeah, this is wrong Yeah, you can do that you can do that but I'm just saying like taking it to a much further degree and trying to you know Tell a person and tell everyone that the other person is the worst person in the world or this one Action defines that person. I think Like I'm saying what it comes down to in the end I think is what happens from here trust but verify allow the person to make them a Apology but look for the actions that come after that, you know be a little bit wary and see what happens the other thing I really want to bring up is The individual from nightmare on film Street in their apology made a comment about how the podcast started and Did say that they have had some mental health issues Or challenges in their life so I think that's also something that people need to pick up on and be sensitive to because You don't want to be in a situation where you're a person Who's online? Going after someone who has mental health problems and is trying to deal with them and by you Being aggressive towards them. It makes it worse We also need to be Open to helping people out with that situation. So just be sensitive be good people Allow people to make mistakes. Don't take any crap from people because like I said, I think what happened in this instance was wrong but Figure out the good medium of taking care of the problem and making sure it never happens again but also allowing that person to Apologize make up for it and move forward. So those are just my thoughts on it I'm sure I'm probably missing some some other ideas or thoughts that other people have had or angles Which we can definitely talk about down in the comments But you know, nothing let's not get you know overly offensive or defensive about this in any Direction because I'm trying to look at it from an outsider perspective because truly I am Because I don't know any of the people involved. I have no stake in it. I haven't listened to any other podcast nothing So I'm just throwing it out there because I wanted this to be a more tempered response Just with some thoughts because there seem to be a lot of people reacting strongly in both directions And I just wanted to kind of put a calmer voice out there to say step back a little bit think about it And see what conclusion you come to. I'm not telling you that my conclusions are correct I'm just saying that this is what I see and for me. These are the questions I asked these are the conclusions. I come to these are the things I think about so all that said I do appreciate you checking this out. Go ahead and put some comments. We can talk about this further nicely If you want to you can hit the subscribe button. I'm not gonna push it real hard in this because of its Content, it's not you know about promoting me at all And yeah, thank you for checking this out, but until next time keep it brutal