So you see that these skumishes between Israel and hezbollah are expected to continue. Now, the Hezbollah terror group has been upping its provocations against Israel on a regular basis since the start of this war. Do they seem deterred by the Israeli reactions thus far. Well listen, these skumishes have so far been very detained. It has been attacked by Hezbollah and an Israeli reaction. Now if it's a detention or if it's their intention שאולי להתתת ישראלי מלטרי, הוא בבצע בבצע הרבה, זה באמת הכרות אם אנחנו נלחנו את השפיעות שיש שם נסרללדה, שיש בלעה להגיעה, הוא כמובע שכן אמרה שכן להתתת את הפרונסיה שכן להתתת את אירון דום שכן להתתת את ישראלי תרפס בזה, אנחנו מדברים על thousands of Israeli reservists who are stationed here in the north and also dozens of communities that have been evacuated. So I think that also it is in his ballas interest to just keep אולי את זה נבחר כאן ותתעטעי כמו שכחי ושכחי כמו כך מטחה עמוד של השלטי תודה, פייס תקלבך, בבקשה של נורד עם נבחר הלב הוא מדהיר אמיר אורן תודה תודה רבה אמיר, והלאה של הכתוביות של אתן ישראל כך זאת התחילה זה מרחש, נתקדם עם חמאס, בבקשה אולי הוא כבר פעמים ובשמח, הם מיימדים וברורים שלו ולגדה. מה חושבים? זה הרעשו, התביזו הכל החלשה לדהטים עדי וורדות אבל תראו את ליבות, אם את תמיד. ישראל יסמנת בשמח חמוס שלät גזע. זה פ Santis ארrod להגיד את החמאס של גזע, אבל עכשיו ישראל תמיד שחמאס תגיד את כל המחשבים, כל הפלסטינים, ישלמי ג'יהד, פופולפרון, כמו, under its wings and forced them to bring their own hostages because many other groups and individuals took hostages on October the 7th and bring them to Hamas in order to exchange with Israel. Now, regardless of this paradox, Hamas probably found a very clever way to prolong the ceasefire, which is not yet in place. For the next five days, starting with the official pronouncement of a deal, it will give Israel on the installment plan 10 hostages a day or so. Once the ceasefire is about to expire, it will agree to a new ceasefire. So rather than resume the ground maneuver, Israel will again pay with a day per each batch of 10 hostages or so. And if they have 240 hostages and they will obviously keep, let's say, 50 for the last installment, they have a three-week ceasefire at hand if this is what they want. And it will be very difficult for Israel to renew fighting three weeks from the start of the ceasefire. So diplomatically, they can put Israel in a box. Now, this is assuming that the hostages are in fact alive. We don't know their fate as of yet. But Israel will also get bodies as part of the deal, and Israel probably assumes that even in the first deal, there are bodies to be returned. And we saw after the protective edge campaign operation in 2014 that even remains of soldiers, Goldin and Shaul, are for Hamas a bargaining chip. So even if not all of the hostages are still alive, Israel will still take part in a deal. That's very difficult to be discussing this. The official stance of the family since the start of this war was that all of the hostages need to be released together as part of a deal. Now, if only women and children are released in this exchange deal, what happens to the others? Well, not even all of them, perhaps. We don't know yet. But it is next to impossible to turn down even a partial release. Obviously, the official stand, as you say, both of the families and of the government of Israel is that we want everybody. And morally, of course, this is the right stand to take. However, you cannot turn down even several dozen hostages and the sigh of relief heard in Israel. Once this is happening, obviously, with anxiety regarding the rest, we'll change public mood. Amir Oren, thank you very much. And on Israel's southern border is our I-24 news correspondent, Pierre Klushendler. Pierre, what is the latest on the ground down south? Well, we know from Palestinian reports that the Indonesia hospital has been surrounded. But we know also that the encirclement started already five days ago, at least. And there's a lot of artillery shelling in the vicinity of the hospital, not on the hospital, per se. But Palestinian media reports that tanks are surrounding the hospital buildings. Now, Dean Byron Boy, my cameraman, is going to show, is showing you the direction of the Indonesia hospital in Beth-Hannon, which is, as I said, the subject of a lot of artillery shelling around it. And because of the wind coming from the sea, we can even smell the gunpowder. We hear very clearly the shell exploding. We hear the ratata of the machine gun probably mounted on tanks. And apart from the Indonesia hospital, fighting is still going on in the refugee camp of Jebalia, where at least two battalions of Hamas are fighting against the IDF, two out of four, because the IDF believes that two of these battalions have already been annihilated, basically. The head of the brigade of Jebalia, which used to control the northern Gaza Strip, has already been eliminated already two weeks ago. And in the neighborhood of Zaitun inside Gaza, there's also fighting against one battalion, the Zaitun battalion. And there's heavy fighting as we heard this morning. Two more soldiers have been killed from the paratrooper unit 890. There are heavy fighting in the northern Gaza Strip at this point, and there are over 60 soldiers who've been killed in action since the start of the ground offensive on October 27. Thank you very much, Pierre. We'll be sure to keep following with you in the south. And for more, we are joined now by our I-24 News Senior Correspondent, Owen Alterman. Owen, the issue of the hostages is the most sensitive topic in Israeli society at the moment. Talk to us about the public discourse in the country today. What are people saying that should be done right now? It's about it's a holy cause. It's almost a kind of secular religion, including actual prayer services at the site, at the site in Tel Aviv, where the families are. And it's become a holy cause as we know. Of course, also a holy cause with empty Shabbat dinner tables set up right here in Israel. We've seen it also for that matter around the world. And the family's forum has done an absolutely terrific job, an impressive job at being able to raise awareness on this issue. Again, not only in Israel, but crucially around the world. This continues to be the strong side of Israeli diplomacy in every statement from foreign ministers, from prime ministers, from presidents. The hostages issue is there. We even had the UN Security Council, Sivan, pass a resolution calling for not a deal to release the hostages, not releasing the hostages in exchange for a ceasefire or release of Palestinian prisoners or fuel or whatever, but for the unconditional release of the hostages. So it's become a kind of holy cause. And obviously the whole country supports the hostages. The question is how will the country feel about a deal? I think the kind of deal that seems to be on the table, for better or worse, even though it includes the release of Palestinian terrorists from prisons, even if they are women. And juveniles, of course, can include a 17-year-old teenager who was engaged in terrorism. So don't only have a picture in your mind of a hardship case of a child, of a real child. Even though it includes that number, I think this is a deal that the public here will support, even if we haven't really been able to have a full public debate on this. And even if we still are in the shadow of the Shalitiel, which, as I've said in our air in the past, is the single worst decision in 75 years of Israeli history. The single worst decision in 75 years of Israeli history. As I've said before, I want a PhD dissertation done on how many people are dead because of that deal. But it's important that this deal is not the Shalitiel. This is not one person in exchange for more than 1,000 terrorists. The parameters are different. The circumstances are obviously different. And I think this is a deal that will be welcomed here. After a couple of things that are mirrored and said, number one, I ask myself whether wider Israeli public opinion will actually see the release of a living, breathing human being, especially a child and a mother, which is being talked about here, versus the remains of a human being. So not a hostage. A hostage would not be released. A dead body would be released. I'm not sure that Israeli public opinion will see those two as being identical and treat them as identical if and when that is what Hamas delivers on those installments. Second, to Amir's point that once you're in a world where Hamas releases 10 hostages a day and wins that way a one day of a ceasefire, what's to stop them from continuing on the process? It's a very, very good point. Now, obviously, it'll be attempting avenue for the Israeli public to go down. And I agree with Amir at the end of the day, one that the public will be willing to go down, putting in parentheses, of course, whether Hamas will demand the release of more Palestinian terrorists, including as you go beyond potential hardship cases, to really harden terrorists, how the public will feel about that. But putting that to the side, I do agree that is a world we could be stepping into. But the reality is even in that world, Israel retains leverage, right? The Israeli military is in control of the above ground territory in northern Gaza and in Gaza city. That's number one. And number two, as we've seen in the past, ceasefires are made to be broken. It would only be a matter of time before somebody in the Gaza Strip would do something to break the ceasefire. And at that point, the Israeli military could at that point begin to resume the campaign against Hamas on the basis that it wasn't Israel that broke a ceasefire, it was the other side. Now, meanwhile, the war cabinet is set to meet with representatives of all the families this evening. What are we expected to hear over there on that front? Look, it's bound to be an emotional meeting. I mean, we've seen the meetings of the families and the Israeli leadership in the past. And obviously, Sivan, one can understand them. These are the loved ones of these families. They're being held in tunnels in Gaza. We've seen what's happened to at least two of the hostages in terms of what the military has been able to show us over the past day. The murder of Noah Marciano. I mean, these are horrific crimes and the families are understandably extremely worried and crying out to the heavens for help and crying out to Israel's leadership for help. That's their job as the family members of hostages. And the Israeli war cabinet doesn't have much to do but to sit there and to listen and to show empathy and then to take all of that rightfully into consideration as they make decisions on next steps and to go into a deal that they feel Israel can accept. Again, while balancing the two goals of the war, one freeing the hostages and the other ending Hamas's control over the territory of the full Gaza Strip. And by the way, it is true that, you all have gallant the defense minister, I think, has rightly said that over the course of the last few weeks, those two goals have worked in tandem, right? The more Israel has put military pressure on Hamas, the more leverage Israel has won on Hamas, and Israel has been able to create for itself new forms of leverage. So the fact that a ceasefire is something that can be traded quote unquote for hostages is only because Israel is fighting in the first place. So in that sense, you all gallant was right. On the other hand, Amir Oran is absolutely right that once you enter into a deal, at that point, there certainly is a bitter tradeoff between the two goals, and that's something that the war cabinet and the broader society is going to have to manage and try to navigate and have to navigate between the two. All right, 24 new senior correspondent Owen Alterman. Thank you very much. Last night, IDF spokesperson, Danielle Higari, unveiled surveillance footage showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and a Thai hostage into Shefa Hospital on October 7th. The IDF says this is further proof that the hospital is being used as a terror infrastructure. Let's take a listen. After ruthlessly massacring and taking people hostage, the terrorists fled to Shefa Hospital. They went to the hospital to hide. Here you can see Hamas terrorists drove back from the massacre. This is an Israeli military jeep they brought into the hospital. I want to repeat just to make everybody understand. They're bringing an Israeli jeep, a military jeep into the hospital compound, a place terrorists should not enter. They're entering with a military jeep. This is 1050, one of the Toyotas that used Hamas in the 7th of October are bringing hostages into the hospital. We have found this Toyota, a different one, with all the gear and nuchbe Toyota hidden in a garage inside the hospital. She was ready to go to the 7th of October massacre like other Toyotas going back into the hospital using the hospital as a terror base. Another jeep, another Israeli vehicle, military vehicle entering into the Shefa Hospital using the Shefa Hospital as a human shield shelter to Hamas terrorists bringing military equipment to the vicinity of the hospital. Here you can see Hamas taking a hostage inside the vicinity. He doesn't look even, he even doesn't look, need a treatment, but they're taking him inside the hospital. I will now share this video that shows the same hostage entering into the hospital with a gunman, terrorist inside the hospital. This is the main entrance of the hospital. Last week we showed you a story about the kids of Kibbutz Berry and what they had to go through on the terrible Saturday of October 7th. This week we bring a conversation with the mothers of those kids. How are they dealing with the situation? What do they think about after their kids have fallen asleep? And what are the small everyday moments that they now miss so much from their lives prior to the attack? More in this interview. Are you able to sleep at night? A difficult question defines sleep. It's not. Let's just say it's not the same sleep as before October 7th. That's clear. You close your eyes and the thoughts come. And after one month already, you really feel the fatigue has been carried, been dragged day by day. I wake up a lot at night all the time. No nightmares. I just wake up. It's not... I don't care that I'm relaxed enough maybe to sleep, but... But I agree with Shahan. The body is very tired. So how are you able to function during the day? There are the children. But what about you? On autopilot. No, not us. We don't have the privilege now to live our lives. We are here in survival mode for the children and for the abductees. It's both things. And every day is every day. Don't think ahead. Don't dream dreams. Get up in the morning. What am I doing today? I wear the abductees' shirt. I wear their necklace. And I promise my children that I am doing the best I can for them today too. How did you stay 22 hours in the safe room? In anticipation of it being over. At my place, they vomited for three hours inside safe room. We didn't have bags then, a bedroom. So the two girls, it doesn't matter, take a shirt, vomit into the shirt, throw the shirt aside. After it comes down a bit and I see the WhatsApp group that they're shooting at the windows and shooting at the doors and at everything passing by. So we moved to stage B of hiding under the bed in the safe room, letting everyone in, including the dog. And you say, well, if they come in, they kill us all. So what's left for me to do? I wrote to my parents that will love them. I wrote to the other side and you have nothing left to do. Just pray. And in moments like these, you manage to convey confidence to the children. You have no choice. We had some restraint, some calm, silence, deathly silence. Even the dog didn't bark. The only thing is that my body was shaking madly. I was shaking in a way that and they said to me, mom, you are shaking. So I told them, it's from the air conditioner. I'm cold.  She's a very bouncy girl and she's very... Four and a half years old and the truth is that the girl surprised me. All these hours, she kept quiet. Not once did she shout, not once did she cry. Beyond my conversation with Danny Kushmaro that they heard on TV, I told him, I cried to him and told him that terrorists were entering our house. So I was constantly busy with her. We've been here for three hours and now they're trying to break into my house. Do you hear their voices? Yes, they're knocking on my door. You understand that it is in your thoughts all the time and that it really is a trauma that they experienced that is present. It is present there. Every morning, the same questions and every night when you want to go to bed, the same questions. Why don't we sleep at night, the mothers? Because just before your child falls asleep, he asks you if there is a terrorist today. Is there a terrorist in the hallway? Did you lock the door? Maybe he will come through the window. It's really hard. It's showering them when you're standing in the shower with them. It's going into the bathroom with them. It's impossible to leave the hotel because the hotel is their home and traveling anywhere, they don't feel safe.  And at night, as a mother, it comes out, I don't sleep because I think about everything they go through and how I can heal them. And what did I do to them? How did I bring them to this state? Is this a feeling that you really walk around with? Of course. I thought Bairdi was the safest place in the world. Okay, some rockets, some this. You can live with it. But I brought him to... worst of all, he trusts me with his eyes closed that I will take care of him. I'm not sure that's what I did. I'm already in the safe room in the first hours. I promised my eldest that we will decide together where we live. I'm very... because he told me, I'm not coming back here. I don't want to live here. I don't want to live in this country. He has also so many times experienced these rounds, and he's the most anxious of all the children. What are the little things that you miss? A house, cooking, home food. You know, even to open the refrigerator, just because at 11.30 p.m. I feel like something. And fold the laundry for yourself. Like, there really are several options for laundry here, but hey... People will hear that you miss a laundry load that would not understand what you're talking about. We were with friends in Tel Aviv at the weekend, and it was so fun to sit for a second, fold the laundry for myself, do the laundry for myself. Small tasks. What makes you feel good? It seems to me that what gives me strength today and lifts me up is really my friends and my family. That I can't answer everyone and get back to everyone, but the love they shower on us and take care of us. I've never experienced anything like this. I was a person who was used to giving, and today I'm receiving from all sides. And at the end of the day I say there are a lot of people who love me and that gives you a lot of strength to continue the next day and the day after. To know that they want to carry on. When you turn to your children to help them, it will be good, like Niri. Like Niri said, it would be good. There must be a happy ending. There must be a happy ending. We have to believe. Those are some of the thoughts and experiences that no mother, no parent should have to go through. That's all for this latest edition of I-24 News. I'm Sivan Ravi. Israel is in a state of war. It's completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she. As our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. 24 Israel Bajo Ataque. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra. La reacción de los países hispano parlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. We are here with our rolling coverage of Israel's war with Hamas, now at day 45. A war which began with a brutal massacre of innocent Israelis as 1200 women, men, children and elderly were brutally tortured and murdered on October 7th in southern Israel. Additionally, Hamas is currently holding on to 236 hostages in captivity, their fate unknown. Meanwhile, Israel is denying reports on Arabic media that a pause in the fighting will come into effect at 11 AM this morning as part of a deal to release Israeli hostages. Israel's war cabinet however has convened last night to discuss a document from Qatar in which Hamas for the first time showed willingness for a significant deal. According to Qatar mediators, Hamas said it was willing to release a group of 50 captives in the first stage in exchange for a 4-5 day pause in fighting the release of about 150 female juvenile Palestinian prisoners and the entry of fuel into the Gaza Strip. However, Hamas clarified that it does not know the whereabouts of all the kidnapped Israeli children and mothers and would need to gather them during the initial days of the potential truce. Meanwhile, intense fighting in the Gaza Strip is ongoing with the idea of confirming this morning to additional, גבעתי ברגעת ישראלי soldiers were killed in combat in Gaza last night as the number of soldiers killed in the ground operation rises to 64. Now, for the latest on Israel's northern border we go to our Pia Steckenbach, standing by for us in the north. Pia yesterday was a very eventful day on the northern border, multiple cases of mortar fire, anti-tank and even targets intercepted in the air. What is the latest over there now? Indeed, Sivan, a very eventful day. Yesterday we speak about the launch of anti-tank missiles and mortar shells towards several communities in northern Israel alongside the Israel-Lebanon border. Hizballah claiming responsibility for a number of those attacks. In addition to that, a number of suspicious aerial targets entered Israeli airspace. They were shut down by a surface-to-air missile here on the Israeli side. No casualties were reported yesterday. There was also a report about an infiltration attempt that turned out to be false alarm, but of course those reports create major tension. Yes, we have seen a number of those infiltration attempts here already in the north in different communities as well. They were so far all apprehended by the Israeli military, but that really shows you how we're not only dealing with the threats of rockets, missiles, but also with the very real threat of infiltration attempts. Now, we're hearing a report that throughout the night there were several more incidents of launches of mortar shells and anti-tank missiles again in different communities alongside the border as per protocol, the Israeli military striking back towards the origin of these launches here in the morning. We've also heard some of the Israeli artillery outgoing towards southern Lebanon. So you see that these scumishes between Israel and Hezbollah are expected to continue. Now the Hezbollah terror group has been upping its provocations against Israel on a regular basis since the start of this war. Do they seem deterred by the Israeli reactions thus far? Well, listen, these scumishes have so far been very detained. It has been attacked by Hezbollah and an Israeli reaction. Now, if it's a detention or if it's their intention to just keep the Israeli military in the north busy, this is really the question if we listen to the speeches that Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah leader, has given, he has clearly said that their intention is to keep the frontier busy, to keep the Iron Dome busy, to keep Israeli troops busy. We're speaking about thousands of Israeli reservists who are stationed here in the north and also dozens of communities that have been evacuated. So I think that also it is, in Hezbollah's interest, to just keep this northern frontier open and to keep it as busy as they can without triggering a major escalation as of now. Thank you, P.S. Steckelbach in our northern border. With us in studio is Defense and Government commentator Amir Oren. Thank you for joining us. Amir, the top question on everyone's mind in Israel this morning is how realistic is a hostage exchange deal now with Hamas in the coming days? The reports about a deal have surfaced several times, but this time they do seem to be a little bit more concrete. What do you think? It is realistic. The principle has been agreed to. The details are still being worked out. But look at the paradox, if you will. Israel set out to dismantle the Hamas stranglehold on Gaza. Its declared war aim is to bring an end to the Hamas rule over Gaza. But now Israel demands that Hamas take all of the other factions, all of the Palestinian Islamic jihad, the popular front, whatever, under its wings, and force them to bring their own hostages because many other groups and individuals took hostages on October 7 and bring them to Hamas in order to exchange with Israel. Now, regardless of this paradox, Hamas probably found a very clever way to prolong the ceasefire, which is not yet in place. For the next five days, starting with the official pronouncement of a deal, it will give Israel on the installment plan 10 hostages a day or so. Once the ceasefire is about to expire, it will agree to a new ceasefire. So rather than resume the ground maneuver, Israel will again pay with a day per each batch of 10 hostages or so. And if they have 240 hostages and they will obviously keep, let's say, 50 for the last installment, they have a three-week ceasefire at hand if this is what they want, and it will be very difficult for Israel to renew fighting three weeks from the start of the ceasefire. So diplomatically they can put Israel in a box. Now this is assuming that the hostages are in fact alive, we don't know their fate as of yet. But Israel will also get bodies as part of the deal, and Israel probably assumes that even in the first deal there are bodies to be returned and we saw after the Protective Edge campaign, operation in 2014 that even remains of soldiers, Goldin and Shaul, are for Hamas a bargaining chip. So even if not all of the hostages are still alive, Israel will still take part in a deal. That's very difficult to be discussing this. The official stance of the family since the start of this war all of the hostages need to be released together as part of a deal. Now if only women and children are released in this exchange deal what happens to the others? Well, not even all of them perhaps. We don't know yet. But it is next to impossible to turn down even a partial release. Obviously the official stand as you say both of the families and of the government of Israel but we want everybody and morally of course this is the right stand to take. However, you cannot turn down even several or several dozen hostages and the sigh of relief heard in Israel once this is happening obviously with anxiety regarding the rest will change public mood. Amir Oren, thank you very much. And on Israel's southern border is our I-24 news correspondent, Pierre Kloeschendler. Pierre, what is the latest on the ground down south? Well we know from Palestinian reports that the Indonesia hospital has been surrounded but we know also that the encirclement started already five days ago at least and there's a lot of artillery shelling in the vicinity of the hospital not on the hospital per se but Palestinian media reports that tanks are surrounding the hospital buildings. Now Dean Byron Boyd my cameraman is going to showing you the direction of the Indonesia hospital in Beth Hanun which is as I said the subject of a lot of artillery shelling around it and because of the wind coming from the sea we can even smell the gunpowder we hear very clearly the shell exploding we hear the ratata of the machine gun probably mounted on tanks and apart from the Indonesia hospital fighting is still going on in the refugee camp of Jibalia where at least two battalions of Hamas are fighting against the IDF two out of four because the IDF believes that two of these battalions have already been annihilated basically the head of the brigade of Jibalia which controls which used to control the northern Gaza Strip has already been eliminated already two weeks ago and in the neighborhood of Zaitun inside Gaza there's also fighting against one battalion the Zaitun battalion there's heavy fighting as we heard this morning two more soldiers have been killed from the paratrooper unit 890 these are there are heavy fighting in the northern Gaza Strip at this point and there are over 60 soldiers who've been killed in action since the start of the ground offensive on October 27th, Yvonne thank you very much Pierre I'll be sure to keep following with you in the south and for more we are joined now by our I-24 news senior correspondent Owen Alterman Owen the issue of the hostages is the most sensitive topic in Israeli society at the moment talk to us about the public discourse in the country today what are people saying that should be done right now Yvonne it's a holy cause it's almost a kind of secular religion including actual prayer services at the site in Tel Aviv where the families are it's become a holy cause as we know of course also a holy cause with empty Shabbat dinner tables set up right here in Israel we've seen it also for that matter around the world and the families forum has done an absolutely terrific job an impressive job as being able to raise awareness on this issue again not only in Israel but crucially around the world this continues to be the strong side of Israeli diplomacy in every statement from foreign ministers from prime ministers from presidents the hostages issue is there we even had the UN Security Council Yvonne pass a resolution calling for not a deal to release the hostages not releasing the hostages in exchange for a ceasefire release of Palestinian prisoners or fuel or whatever but for the unconditional release of the hostages so it's become a kind of holy cause and obviously the whole country supports the hostages the question is how will the country feel about a deal I think the kind of deal that seems to be on the table for better or worse even though it includes the release of Palestinian terrorists from prisons even if they are women and juveniles of course can include a 17 year old teenager who was engaged in terrorism so don't only have a picture in your mind of a hardship case of a child, of a real child even though it includes that number I think this is a deal that the public here will support even if we haven't really been able to have a full public debate on this and even if we still are in the shadow of the Shalitiel which as I've said on our air in the past is this single worst decision in 75 years of Israeli history this single worst decision in 75 years of Israeli history as I've said before I want a PhD dissertation done on how many people are dead because of that deal but it's important that this deal is not the Shalitiel this is not one person in exchange for more than a thousand terrorists are different, the circumstances are obviously different and I think this is a deal that will be welcomed here after a couple of things that are mirrored and said number one I ask myself whether wider Israeli public opinion will actually see the release of a living breathing human being especially a child and a mother which is being talked about here versus the remains of a human being so not a hostage, a hostage would not be released, a dead body would be released I'm not sure that Israeli public opinion will see those two as being identical and treat them as identical if and when that is what Hamas delivers on those installments second, to Amir's point that once you're in a world where Hamas releases 10 hostages a day and wins that way a one day of a ceasefire what's to stop them from continuing on the process it's a very very good point obviously it'll be attempting avenue for the Israeli public to go down and I agree with Amir at the end of the day one that the public will be willing to go down putting in parentheses of course whether Hamas will demand the release of more Palestinian terrorists including as you go beyond potential hardship cases to really harden terrorists how the public will feel about that putting that to the side I do agree that is a world we could be stepping into but the reality is even in that world Israel retains leverage the Israeli military is in control of the above ground territory in northern Gaza and in Gaza city that's number one and number two ceasefires are made to be broken it would only be a matter of time before somebody in the Gaza Strip would do something to break the ceasefire and at that point the Israeli military could at that point begin to resume the campaign against Hamas on the basis that it wasn't Israel that broke a ceasefire it was the other side now meanwhile the war cabinet is set to meet with representatives of all the families this evening what are we expected to hear over there on that front look it's bound to be an emotional meeting and we've seen the meetings of the families and the Israeli leadership in the past and obviously, Sivan what can understand them these are the loved ones of these families they're being held in tunnels in Gaza we've seen what's happened to at least two of the hostages in terms of what the military has been able to show us over the past day the murder of Noah Marchiano I mean these are horrific crimes and the families are understandably extremely worried and crying out to the heavens for help and crying out to Israel's leadership for help that's their job as the family members of hostages and the Israeli War Cabinet doesn't have much to do but to sit there and to listen and to show empathy and then to take all of that rightfully into consideration as they make decisions on next steps and to go into a deal that they feel Israel can accept again, while balancing the two goals of the war one freeing the hostages and the other ending Hamas control the territory of the full Gaza Strip and by the way it is true that Yov Galat the defense minister I think has rightly said that over the course of the last few weeks those two goals have worked in tandem the more Israel has put military pressure on Hamas the more leverage Israel has won on Hamas and Israel has been able to create for itself new forms of leverage so the fact that a ceasefire is something that can be traded for hostages is only because Israel is fighting in the first place so in that sense Yov Galat was right on the other hand there is absolutely right that once you enter into a deal at that point there certainly is a bitter trade off between the two goals and that's something that the war cabinet and the broader society is going to have to manage and try to navigate and have to navigate between the two all right 24 new senior correspondent Owen Alterman thank you very much last night IDF spokesperson Danielle Higari unveiled surveillance footage showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and a Thai hostage into Shifa hospital on October 7 the IDF says this is further proof that the hospital is being used as a terror infrastructure let's take a listen after ruthlessly met the caring and taking people hostage the terrorists fled to Shifa hospital they went to the hospital to hide here you can see Hamas terrorists drove back from the massacre this is an Israeli military jeep they brought into the hospital I wanna repeat just to make everybody understand they're bringing an Israeli jeep a military jeep into the hospital compound a place terrorists should not enter they're entering with a military jeep this is 1050 one of the toyotas that used Hamas in the 7th of October are bringing hostages into the hospital we have found this toyota a different one with all the gear and nuch betoyota hidden in a garage inside the hospital she was ready to go to the 7th of October massacre like other toyotas going back into the hospital using the hospital as a terror base another jeep another Israeli vehicle military vehicle entering into the Shifa hospital using the Shifa hospital as a human shield shelter to Hamas terrorists bringing military equipment to the vicinity of the hospital here you can see Hamas taking a hostage inside the vicinity he doesn't look even he even doesn't look need a treatment but they're taking it inside the hospital I will now share this video that shows the same hostage entering into the hospital with a gunman terrorist inside the hospital this is the main entrance of the hospital last week we showed you a story about the kids of kibbutz berry and what they had to go through on the terrible Saturday of October 7th this week we bring a conversation with the mothers of those kids how are they dealing with the situation what do they think about after their kids have fallen asleep and what are the small everyday moments that they now miss so much from their lives prior to the attack more in this interview are you able to sleep at night? a difficult question define sleep it's not let's just say it's not the same sleep as before October 7th that's clear you close your eyes and the thoughts come and after one month already you really feel the fatigue has been carried being dragged day by day I wake up a lot at night all the time no nightmares I just wake up it's not I don't care that I'm relaxed enough maybe to sleep but but I agree with Shahan the body is very tired so how are you able to function during the day? there are the children but what about you? on autopilot no no, not us we don't have the privilege now to live our lives we are here in survival mode for the children and for the abductees it's both things and every day is every day don't think ahead don't dream dreams get up in the morning what am I doing today? I wear the abductees' shirt I wear their necklace and I promise my children that I am doing the best I can for them today too how did you stay 22 hours in the safe room? in anticipation of it being over at my place they vomited for three hours inside safe room we didn't have bags then a bedroom so the two girls it doesn't matter take a shirt, vomit into the shirt throw the shirt aside after it comes down a bit and I see the WhatsApp group that they're shooting at the windows and shooting at the doors and at everything passing by so we moved to stage B of hiding under the bed in the safe room letting everyone in including the dog and you say well if they come in they kill us all so what's left for me to do I wrote to my parents that will love them I wrote to the other side and you have nothing left to do just pray and in moments like these you manage to convey confidence to the children you have no choice we had some restraint some calm silence deathly silence even the dog didn't bark the only thing is that my body was shaking madly I was shaking in a way that and they said to me mom you are shaking so I told them it's from the air conditioner I'm cold I was busy all this time keeping my little one from making a noise she's a very bouncy girl and she's very four and a half years old and the truth is that the girl surprised me all these hours she kept quiet not once did she shout not once did she cry beyond my conversation with Danny Kushmaro that they heard on TV I told him I cried to him and told him that terrorists were entering our house so I was constantly busy with her we've been here for three hours and now they're trying to break into my house do you hear their voices? yes they're knocking on my door you understand that it is in your thoughts all the time and that it really is a trauma that they experienced that is present it is present there every morning the same questions and every night when you want to go to bed the same questions why don't we sleep at night the mothers because just before your child falls asleep he asks you if there is a terrorist today is there a terrorist in the hallway did you lock the door maybe he will come through the window it's really hard it's showering them when you're standing in the shower with them it's going into the bathroom with them it's impossible to leave the hotel because the hotel is their home and traveling anywhere they don't feel safe you feel the lump rising in your throat and you hold back from crying because you understand how hurt your child is and you want to be strong for him and at night as a mother it comes out I don't sleep because I think about everything they go through and how I can heal them and what did I do to them how did I bring them to this state is this a feeling that you really walk around with? yes of course I thought Betty was the safest place in the world okay some rockets some this you can live with it but I brought him to worst of all he trusts me with his eyes closed that I will take care of him I'm not sure that's what I did I'm already in the safe room in the first hours I promised my eldest that we will decide together where we live I'm very because he told me I'm not coming back here I don't want to live here I don't want to live in this country he has also so many times experienced these rounds and he's the most anxious of all the children what are the little things that you miss? a house cooking home food you know even to open the refrigerator just because at 11 30 p.m. I feel like something and fold the laundry for yourself like there really are several options for laundry here but hey people will hear that you miss a laundry load they would not understand what you're talking about we were with friends in Tel Aviv at the weekend and it was so fun to sit for a second fold the laundry for myself do the laundry for myself small tasks what makes you feel good? it seems to me that what gives me strength today and lifts me up is really my friends and my family that I can't answer everyone and get back to everyone but the love they shower on us and take care of us I've never experienced anything like this I was a person who was used to giving and today I'm receiving from all sides and at the end of the day I say there are a lot of people who love me and that gives you a lot of strength to continue the next day after to know that they want to carry on then you turn to your children to help them it will be good like Niri like Niri said it would be good there must be a happy ending there must be a happy ending we have to believe those are some of the thoughts and experiences that no mother no parent should have to go through that's all for this latest edition of I-24 news I'm Steve Underview there are phrases you know from where they come come here and the package for when and recharges that you already know where they go on International Recharges Altis, your people in R.D. access our web page recharges.altis.com.do select 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in the southern Gaza border all of this as Israel is currently denying reports on Arab media that a pause in the fighting will come into effect at 11 am this morning as part of a deal Israel's war cabinet however did convene last night to discuss a document from Qatar in which Hamas for the first time demonstrated a readiness to engage in a substantial deal according to Qatari mediators Hamas said it was willing to release a group of 50 captives in the first stage in exchange for a 4-5 day pause in fighting along with the release of about 150 female and juvenile Palestinian prisoners and the entry of fuel into the Gaza Strip however Hamas clarified but it does not know the whereabouts of all the kidnapped Israeli children and mothers and would need time to gather them during the initial days of the potential truce here's Israel's ambassador to the U.S. Mike Herzog on the efforts to release the Israeli hostages we're talking about a pause in the fighting for a few days so we can get the hostages out but all sides it's not a ceasefire because we will continue to push against Hamas to dismantle their military infrastructure and their terror infrastructure we're not going to stop that but we are willing to go for a pause for a significant number of hostages if we have a deal and on Israel's southern border is our I-24 news correspondent Pierre Kloschendler Pierre just a little while ago we heard sirens in the south what is happening down there right about 35 minutes ago there were four interceptions by the irondome anti-missile system of rockets launched from the Gaza Strip and then about six minutes ago there was another rocket alert but further north from where we are on Israeli communities on the border with the Gaza Strip now this is a rocket the fourth rocket barrage since midnight and that could be maybe a prelude to a ceasefire that has been announced by Jordanian newspaper Al Rad earlier although it was denied by the IDF and it was denied by the Israeli government now I'm going to show you what's going on right now there is an encirclement of the Indonesia hospital in Bethanoon Al-Jazeera has shown footage of tanks rolling near the hospital and we know that their targets that the IDF has been bombing for the past five days on the vicinity of the hospital not on the hospital per se because Israel is very careful not to bomb hospitals although they know from what they found in Rantisi hospital Al-Quds hospital and Shifa hospital that these hospitals are also a hub for Hamas terrorists and that there are tunnels hidden beneath those hospitals now the fighting is also going on in two areas of the northern Gaza Strip the Jebalia refugee camp and the Zaitou neighborhood in Gaza city we just heard from the IDF spokesperson unit that three company commanders from Hamas were eliminated overnight probably we don't know exactly in which area they were eliminated but we know also that the Israeli air force is bombing the central refugee camp south of Gaza city Nussera, Direl Balach and also in the vicinity east of Rafah on the Israeli on the Gaza Egyptian border thank you Pierre on the southern border we'll be back to get some more updates from you with us in studio is retired IDF Colonel Dr. Jacques Neria Jacques thank you for joining us everyone is talking about a potential hostage exchange deal and Qatar is the main negotiator in this deal this is a country that many say is problematic because of its close ties with this terror group, Hamas it's also known to host Iranian officials and there seems to be a double game being played here by Qatar well Qatar has a very special game I mean it is playing on all grounds it has a reaction with Israel with Iran, with Hamas and with the opposition inside the West Bank and with the some Israeli Arabs who are against the state of Israel so they are all harbored in Qatar so there is a prejudice here you know that when you deal with Qatar you are dealing in fact with the facade of Hamas and I'm not sure that Qatar can bring the deal to its very end because we are dealing with a psychopath who is changing his mind every now and then every 5 minutes he has something else that he wants another condition things that Israel cannot accept so if we are talking about a humanitarian pose of 5 days I mean 5 days this will allow of course Hamas to re-organize and this would cost Israel finally when the fire will begin again it will cost us lives I mean this is definitely so but if at the end of the day we have a deal as somebody who has negotiated deals and failed with Ron Arad I think that if something is offered to you today and you can close the deal just close it right now because this will not come again and if we are talking right now about the deal about all the mothers and the kids and the women I think that we just take it and we will see afterwards what happens this is my view and I think that this is what the government should do also the question is at what price that's the big question right? well right now the price is not enormous the price is about 150 prisoners that are inside the Israeli prisons some of them are with their blood on their hands but it doesn't matter we are talking about 150 and we are talking about a pose in the war that would allow Hamas this is more important than anything it will allow Hamas to re-establish communication with these clots units because Hamas has lost its control on the northern part of Gaza and during those five days he can just mend the fences again and try to reactivate I mean the whole command the whole skeleton of the command and this is what's important for Hamas because his aim finally is to reach a ceasefire with him still on his home two feet and if this happens then this is for him this is victory thank you Jacques now for the latest on Israel's northern border we go to our Pia Stekelbach standing for us by for us in the north Pia it's not so quiet on your region as well we're hearing that there is multiple cases of mortar fire on Israel's border what do we know about this? right Syvonne well the skirmishes between Israel and Isabella definitely continue we've seen a number of those cross-border attacks already yesterday and they seem to have continued throughout the night we're speaking about the launch of both mortar shells and anti-tank missiles yesterday Isabella claimed responsibility over a number of those attacks attacks really towards different areas in northern Israel really alongside the Israel Lebanon border in addition to that yesterday as suspicious aircrafts entered Israeli airspace they were all shut down by the Israeli army and also yesterday there was a very tenuous moment when reports evolved about a possible infiltration attempt in the community of Stula those reports turned out to be false but that really once more shows you how we're not only dealing with the threat of mortar shells and anti-tank missiles but also infiltration attempts that we have seen before they will as of now all apprehended by the Israeli army but there's also part of the reason why dozens of communities in the north have been evacuated now we are hearing reports that also throughout the night there was several attacks of mortar shells and anti-tank missiles again in different communities the latest one towards an Israeli army outpost in Biranit which is about a few kilometers away from where we are here in the western central part of the Israel Lebanon border and from here we can also hear the outgoing Israeli artillery being launched towards southern Lebanon as we know that Israel is striking back towards the origin of those mortar and anti-tank missile launches and these scumishes really we have seen them since the beginning of the war with Gaza and they're not expected to end anytime soon thank you Pia in the north the Palestinian Authority has yet to recognize the atrocities perpetrated by Hamas on October 7th and yesterday it appears it was denying the entire ordeal altogether better yet outrageously pointing its finger towards Israel when it said it is in fact Israel that bombed the Nova music festival on October 7th that same music festival in which Hamas butchered hundreds of young men and women here's what Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had to say about this day the Palestinian Authority spokesman in Ramallah said something utterly preposterous it denied that it was Hamas that carried out the horrible massacre at the nature festival near Gaza it actually accused Israel of carrying out that massacre that this is a complete reversal of truth Abu Mazen who in the past has denied the existence of the Holocaust today is denying the existence of the Hamas massacre and that's unacceptable my goal is that the day after we destroy Hamas any future civil administration in Gaza does not deny the massacre does not educate its children to become terrorists does not pay for terrorists and does not tell its children that their ultimate goal in life is to see the destruction and the solution of the state of Israel that's not acceptable and that is not the way to achieve peace meanwhile the US says the Palestinian Authority has now retracted that statement more on this with us now joining is our I-24 news senior correspondent Owen Alterman Owen you're hearing these words by the Palestinian Authority what does this mean? look it's a death blow Sivan against the Palestinian Authority itself they seem to have understood this which is why at least the Americans say that they've retracted it they certainly took it down permanently some social media platforms but I think the legitimate de-legitimization I know there are long words but still legitimate de-legitimization of the Palestinian Authority to me is one of the most surprising outcomes of the war the Palestinian Authority entered this war with a reasonably good brand I've been saying for a long time that Mahmoud Abbas is the most taken for granted person in the Middle East and I don't take that back but when the Palestinian foreign ministry comes out and says something like this after Benjamin Netanyahu had already been attacking them for days they simply deal themselves a kind of death blow look the Americans seem to want to prop them up and to continue to give them a new lease on life by allowing them to step back from this and retract it but Sivan it's hard to see a way back for the Palestinian Authority it's hard for me at least to see how the Biden administration and Western governments even if those governments are some of them I have positions that the Israeli government doesn't agree with on the full scope of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict but denial of the massacre is something that I think will simply be disqualifying for them by the way what exactly is behind this there was an article in Haaretz maybe some other media outlets starting a report by the Israel police in its report on the festival in Yerkebutz, Re'im which found that some again capital letters bold underline some of the party goers may again capitalized underline bold may have been killed by friendly fire from Israeli police helicopter gunships again in the confusion and in the drama of the events but that of course does not mean that all of them were definitely killed by Israel and that is an intentional twisting of that information by the Palestinian foreign ministry and Sivana that's going to cause them enormous damage if it already hasn't well so the question still stands as to what will become of this area after the war of the Gaza Strip the US stressed it does want the Palestinian authority to take charge but it's not so simple as we see well listen I think in one sense the Palestinian authority as a shell as a structure one can imagine that shell and that structure which already exists and has for the better part of 30 years so there's something to be said for keeping the structure and the shell impact maybe that structure and shell will come into Gaza on the day after but it'll have to be to use Joe Biden's I think given the statement from the foreign minister rather charitable adjective revitalized it's going to have to be very very different with a different set of leadership a different set of leaders and a different leadership and a different set of policies and some of the core issues of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict particularly as Benjamin Netanyahu has gone back to over and over again in the education system so I'm giving the educational materials that have been found from Hamas schools on the Gaza Strip coupled by this statement from the Palestinian authority on the massacre I think that is an Israeli red line which Israel is going to be able to hold to on the day after I think we'll have a very convincing case to present to the United States and to the European governments and frankly to Arab governments as well and I wonder for that matter what they think in Riyadh and in Abu Dhabi and in Manama and even in Cairo and maybe even in Amman when they see something like this coming out of the Palestinian foreign ministry right so we're joined in studio with retired IDF colonel Dr. Jacques Neria what do you make of this well I cannot but agree with what Owen has said I mean the the Palestinian authority has shot itself they have committed suicide yesterday by stating those imbecilities and I think that they really believe so they do believe that because I saw in the Arab media that a repercussion enormous that it was helicopters Israeli countries that killed everybody they all forgot the pictures that the cameras the helmet cameras that the terrorists had on themselves that took photos of everything the body cams the body cams exactly so so what is going to happen is that if you take a pencil and a paper you will have to redraw the Middle East after the war it will be another Palestinian authority this will not be the same Palestinian authority it has no legitimacy legitimacy at all right now and the body that will govern Gaza will be certainly a Palestinian authority but not the same Palestinian authority that we are talking about today it will be another Palestinian authority that will not teach hatred hatred that will not teach austerity that will not teach to kill Jews from the kindergarten to the graduation I think that and of course I mean security has to be in our hands on the border with Egypt on the sea, on the air and along the borders with Gaza this is going to change the whole Middle East the Middle East is going to change also in Lebanon because Israel cannot accept the fact that Hezbollah stays on the fences in the north no Israeli residents will come back there if the terrorists of Hezbollah will be watching on the border so something has to be done there either diplomatically or manually meaning by the means of weapons and what's happening today in the north is we are in fact at war we are at war Hezbollah has accustomed us to a nutrition war what was on the 8th of October today we see a huge enormous difference intensification of the firing used yesterday 21 anti-tank missiles that were fired at Israeli positions I'm not talking about the mortars I'm not talking about the rockets that are hitting Israel we are in a position right now on a defense position but we will wait for the right moment in order to just to educate Hezbollah to the real equation between us and Hezbollah and let us not forget that we have another front that has just telling us that we will have to deal with it at SIEMN that's right last night IDF spokesperson Danielle Hagari unveiled surveillance footage showing Hamas terrorists bringing in a Nepali and a Thai hostage into the Shifa hospital on October 7 the IDF says this is further proof of the hospitals being used as a terror infrastructure let's take a listen after ruthlessly meth occurring and taking people hostage the terrorists fled to Shifa hospital they went to the hospital to hide here you can see Hamas terrorists drove back from the massacre this is an Israeli military jeep they brought into the hospital I want to repeat and admit just to make everybody understand they're bringing an Israeli jeep a military jeep into the hospital compound a place terrorists should not enter they're entering with a military jeep this is 1050 one of the toyotas that used Hamas in the 7th of October are bringing hostages into the hospital we have found another toyota with all the gear hidden in a garage inside the hospital she was ready to go to the 7th of October massacre like other toyotas going back into the hospital using the hospital as a terror base another jeep another Israeli vehicle entering into the Shifa hospital using the Shifa hospital as a human shield shelter to Hamas terrorists bringing military equipment to the vicinity of the hospital here you can see Hamas taking a hostage inside the vicinity he doesn't look even he even doesn't look need a treatment but they're taking inside the hospital I will now share this video that shows the same hostage entering into the hospital with a gunman terrorist inside the hospital this is the main entrance of the hospital and for more on this we are now joined again by our R.I. 24 news senior correspondent Owen Alterman Owen we're seeing this footage from the Shifa hospital the IDF is presenting clear evidence what do you make of this look, Xivan, to get the international media to understand this story from Israel's perspective is a long slog but you just see that Daniel Hagarian is taking them on that long trip look, it's obviously very frustrating because international media organizations are holding Israel to a higher standard than Hamas in terms of demanding verification and so forth, I think it's an unreasonably high standard for the burden of proof that's that of course, when a military goes into the main hospital of a territory let alone in the middle of a war obviously there is a high bar look, I think to date the military has established that Hamas was using the hospital for military purposes and I think that's been established to the satisfaction of international news organizations the next step of course is going beyond that, showing indeed that the headquarters were in the bottom below the hospital, that the bunkers were there all of the things that Daniel Hagarian showed in that presentation but the 3D images the military itself the military itself, the IDF itself has said that is the standard it needs to meet we're still a long way from getting there we're still a long slog Hagarian itself has said that it's going to take time for the military to safely be able to go and to reveal these and to understand what was there and to be able to then safely discover it and safely show it to international media I will say that at least the media internationally seems to be showing some patients with the IDF and understanding that process and willing to suspend judgment in the meantime but certainly the bar remains high and the IDF is going to need it I suspect they will but that's not free from doubt again not that I doubt that what they said was there but there's a difference between it being there and being able to prove it was there but I suspect that we will get there but it's going to take a long time and there's going to be frustration in the meantime but again I do think it's been established to the satisfaction international news organizations the hospital was used for military purposes that certainly is an achievement for the IDF thank you very much Owen our I-24 news correspondent אורי שפירה פתא וזה תקיבוץ נרעוז where a quarter of its community were either murdered or abducted a month and a half into the war some of the residents came to rediscover their homes let's take a look this is the cup collection of my parents they brought it from different places a month and a half after the Hamas onslaught residents of southern Israel are picking up the pieces this house in kibbutz נרעוז belonged to the rubin family who managed to escape the horrific attack and survived here for people of our family were hiding they hid here for two hours my mother was born during the holocaust her family hid she got here when she was a child it all comes back several residents of Neroz came back to the kibbutz to collect their belongings among them was Avi Zichri whose wife and nine year old son were kidnapped together ohad, Karen, grandma and grandpa all of them were here in the safe room the terrorists came here and took them without any fight the grandfather is very weak and can barely see they didn't have a choice at 9 AM we got a message from the grandfather we can't speak that was it 38 members of the kibbutz were murdered on October 7 and 75 were abducted around a quarter of the population of this small community here in the kibbutz dining room a tribute to the hostages and fallen was laid the empty mailboxes have stickers red for those who were murdered black for those who were abducted a few blue ones for the hostages who were released we met the son of one of them was one of the few hostages set free his father, Rodead, is still being held in Gaza it's very hard to return here it's my childhood home every house tells a story here we can see three houses of abducted people here here we see the house of someone I've known for my entire life, a classmate his father was murdered kibbutz Neroz was established in 1955 and was a collective community in the middle of the kibbutz we can find the beautiful ecosystem garden this garden called the green point contains rare trees which were brought from Australia and designed to grow in desert conditions designer of this place called the green spot is Ron Pauker who lost his brother in the massacre during the winter the garden will survive also without special care and I hope that till the spring until the spring will reclaim all this the garden I am not worried about the garden though some residents say they are willing to return to the kibbutz Hadar who left the kibbutz 27 years ago says that she doesn't think all the residents will come back but she is fully committed to her home I think that this harsh event that we all went through proved to all of us how much we all belong to the same place we speak the same language we are a community even if we don't live here anymore in the last month I became really proud to be a part of this place it is such a beautiful place we are not tired from the long road we are paving the way this slogan is written on the huge flag outside of the dining room but only time will tell what the future of kibbutz near us will be and children's days mark today across the world but not all children will be able to celebrate certainly not those being held hostage by Hamas terrorists under terror tunnels in Gaza and how do you explain to a world in denial the suffering of families shattered by absolute evil various Israeli activists have tried to put fear, horror and despair to the screen so that the world cannot look away here's one example I lost 10 years I was the head kinder garden teacher at Montessori educational program I used to babysit all the kids at my block when I was growing up I'm happy to teach the child piano I've potty trained I can pick up the kids from school that's all for this latest edition of i24 news I'm Steve Underovine, thank you for watching hell is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where we see בואו הסודרן ונורדרן בורדרן ישראל מורדרן שאלות הולכת את אי-די-אף פוסט של לבנון, כשרוקט אילרט סיירינס הולך בצדירות בסדירות בסודרן גזב-בורדרן כל זה, כשישראל currently denying רפורטים על אירב-מדיה שפגעים בו על 11 אי-אמן כך כפורטי של עדות ישראל זו-או-רק-אבינט ככה, נכון, קונבין להקבל על כתר בו-חמאס, כך הרבה הרדינס, To engage in a substantial deal. According to Qatari mediators, Hamas said it was willing to release a group of 50 captives in the first stage in exchange for a four to five day pause in fighting, along with the release of about 150 female and juvenile Palestinian prisoners and the entry of fuel into the Gaza Strip. However, Hamas clarified that it does not know the whereabouts of all the kidnapped Israeli children and mothers and would need time to gather them during the initial days of the potential truce. Here's Israel's ambassador to the US, Mike Herzog, on the efforts to release the Israeli hostages. We're talking about a pause in the fighting for a few days so we can get the hostages out. But also... It's not a ceasefire because we will continue to push against Hamas to dismantle their military infrastructure and their terror infrastructure. We're not going to stop that. But we are willing to go for a pause for a significant number of hostages if we have a deal. And on Israel's southern border is our I-24 News correspondent, Pierre Kloschendler. Pierre, just a little while ago we heard sirens in the south. What is happening down there? Right, about 35 minutes ago there were four interceptions by the Iron Dome anti-missile system of rockets launched from the Gaza Strip. And then about six minutes ago there was another rocket alert but further north from where we are on Israeli communities on the border with the Gaza Strip. Now this is the fourth rocket barrage since midnight and that could be maybe a prelude to a ceasefire that has been announced by Jordanian newspaper Al Rad earlier, although it was denied by the IDF and it was denied by the Israeli government. Now I'm going to show you what's going on right now. There is an encirclement of the Indonesia Hospital in Bethanoon. Al-Jazeera has shown footage of tanks rolling near the hospital and we know that their targets, that the IDF has been bombing for the past five days on the vicinity of the hospital, not on the hospital per se because Israel is very careful not to bomb hospitals although they know from what they found in Rantisi Hospital, Al-Quds Hospital and Shifa Hospital that these hospitals are also hub for Hamas terrorists and that there are tunnels hidden beneath those hospitals. Now the fighting is also going on in two areas of the northern Gaza Strip the Jabalia refugee camp and the Zaitou neighborhood in Gaza City. We just heard from the IDF spokesperson unit that three company commanders from Hamas were eliminated overnight probably. We don't know exactly in which area they were eliminated but we know also that the Israeli Air Force is bombing the central refugee camp south of Gaza City, Nusaira-Direl Balak and also in the vicinity east of Rafah on the Gaza Egyptian border. Thank you Pierre on the southern border. We'll be back to get some more updates from you. With us in studio is retired IDF Colonel Dr. Jacques Nerian. Jacques, thank you for joining us. Everyone is talking about a potential hostage exchange deal and Qatar is the main negotiator in this deal. This is a country that many say is problematic because of its close ties with this terror group Hamas. It's also known to host Iranian officials and there seems to be a double game being played here by Qatar. Qatar has a very special game. It is playing on all grounds. It has relations with Israel, with Iran, with Hamas and with the opposition inside the West Bank and with some Israeli Arabs who are against the State of Israel. So they are all harbored in Qatar. So there's a prejudice here. You know that when you deal with Qatar you're dealing in fact with the facade of Hamas and I'm not sure that Qatar can bring the deal to its very end because we are dealing with a psychopath who is changing his mind every now and then. Every five minutes he has something else that he wants another condition, another condition. Things that Israel cannot accept. So if we're talking about a humanitarian pose of five days this will allow, of course, Hamas to rearm, to reorganize and this would cost Israel finally when the fire will begin again. It will cost us lives. I mean, this is definitely so. But if at the end of the day we have a deal as somebody who has negotiated deals and failed with Ron Arad, I think that if something is offered to you today and you can close the deal, just close it right now because this will not come again and if we are talking right now about the deal about all the mothers and the kids and the women I think that we'll just take it and we'll see afterwards what happens. This is my view and I think that this is what the government should do also. The question is at what price. That's the big question, right? Well right now the price is not enormous. The price is about 150 prisoners that are inside Israeli prisons where some of them are with their blood on their hands but it doesn't matter. We're talking about 150 and we're talking about a pose in the war that would allow Hamas, this is more important than anything. It will allow Hamas to reestablish communication with these clots units because Hamas has lost its control on the northern part of Gaza and during those five days he can just mend the fences again and try to reactivate the whole command, the whole skeleton of the command. And this is what's important for Hamas because his aim finally is to reach a ceasefire with him still on his own two feet and if this happens then this is for him, this is victory. Thank you, Jacques. Now for the latest on Israel's northern border we go to our Pia Stekelbach standing for us, by for us in the north. Pia, it's not so quiet on your region as well. We're hearing that there is multiple cases of mortar fire on Israel's border. What do we know about this? All right, Sivan, well, the skirmishes between Israel and Hisballah definitely continue. We've seen a number of those cross-border attacks already yesterday and they seem to have continued throughout the night. We're speaking about the launch of both mortar shells and anti-tank missiles. Yesterday, Hisballah claimed responsibility over a number of those attacks, attacks really towards different areas in northern Israel really alongside the Israel-Lebanon border. In addition to that, yesterday, as suspicious aircrafts entered Israeli airspace, they were all shut down by the Israeli army. And also yesterday, there was a very tenacious moment when reports evolved about a possible infiltration attempt in the community of Stula. Those reports turned out to be false, but that really once more shows you how we're not only dealing with the threat of mortar shells and anti-tank missiles, but also infiltration attempts that we have seen before. They will, as of now, all apprehended by the Israeli army, but there's also part of the reason why dozens of communities in the north have been evacuated. Now, we are hearing reports that also throughout the night, there were several attacks of mortar shells and anti-tank missiles again in different communities. The latest one towards an Israeli army outpost in Biranit, which is about a few kilometers away from where we are here in the western central part of the Israel-Lebanon border. And from here we can also hear the outgoing Israeli artillery being launched towards southern Lebanon. As we know, Israel is striking back towards the origin of those mortar and anti-tank missiles all launches. And these scumishes, really, we have seen them since the beginning of the war with Gaza and they're not expected to end anytime soon. Thank you, Pia, in the north. The Palestinian Authority has yet to recognize the atrocities perpetrated by Hamas on October 7th. And yesterday, it appears it was denying the entire ordeal altogether and better yet, outrageously pointing its finger towards Israel when it said it is in fact Israel that bombed the Nova Music Festival on October 7th. That same music festival in which Hamas butchered hundreds of young men and women. Here's what Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had to say about this. Day the Palestinian Authority spokesman in Ramallah said something utterly preposterous. It denied that it was Hamas that carried out the horrible massacre at the Nature Festival near Gaza. It actually accused Israel of carrying out that massacre. This is a complete reversal of truth. Abu Mazen, who in the past has denied the existence of the Holocaust, today is denying the existence of the Hamas Massacre. And that's unacceptable. My goal is that the day after we destroy Hamas, any future civil administration in Gaza does not deny the massacre, does not educate its children to become terrorists, does not pay for terrorists, and does not tell its children that their ultimate goal in life is to see the destruction and the solution of the State of Israel. That's not acceptable and that is not the way to achieve peace. Meanwhile, the U.S. says the Palestinian Authority has now retracted that statement. More on this with us now joining is our I-24 news senior correspondent Owen Alterman. Owen, you're hearing these words by the Palestinian Authority. What does this mean? Look, it's a death blow, Sivan, against the Palestinian Authority itself. They seem to have understood this, which is why at least the Americans say that they've retracted it. They certainly took it down from at least some social media platforms. But I think the legitimate de-legitimization, I know they're long words, but still legitimate de-legitimization of the Palestinian Authority, to me is one of the most surprising outcomes of the war. The Palestinian Authority entered this war with a reasonably good brand. I've been saying for a long time that Mahmoud Abbas is the most taken for granted person in the Middle East, and I don't take that back. But when the Palestinian foreign ministry comes out and says something like this, after Benjamin Netanyahu had already been attacking them for days, they simply deal themselves a kind of death blow. Look, the Americans seem to want to prop them up and to continue to give them a new lease on life by allowing them to step back from this and retract it. But Sivan, it's hard to see a way back for the Palestinian Authority. It's hard for me at least to see how the Biden Administration and Western governments, even if those governments are some of them, I have positions that the Israeli government doesn't agree with on the full scope of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. But denial of the massacre is something that I think will simply be disqualifying for them. By the way, what exactly is behind this? There was an article in Haaretz, maybe some other media outlets, citing a report by the Israel police in its report on the festival in Yerkebutz, which found that some, again, capital letters, bold underline, some of the party-goers may, again, capitalized, underlined bold, may have been killed by friendly fire from Israeli police, helicopter, gunships, again in the confusion and in the drama of the events. But that, of course, does not mean that all of them were definitely killed by Israel. And that is an intentional twisting of that information by the Palestinian Foreign Ministry and Sivan, and that's going to cause them enormous damage, it already hasn't. Well, so the question still stands as to what will become of this area after the war of the Gaza Strip. The U.S. stressed it does want the Palestinian Authority to take charge, but it's not so simple as we see. Well, listen, I think in one sense, the Palestinian Authority as a shell, as a structure, right? One can imagine that shell and that structure, which already exists and has for the better part of 30 years, so there's something to be said for keeping the structure and the shell intact. Maybe that structure and shell will come into Gaza on the day after, but it'll have to be to use Joe Biden's, I think given the statement from the Foreign Minister, rather charitable adjective, revitalized, right? It's going to have to be very, very different with a different set of leadership, a different set of leaders and a different leadership and a different set of policies and some of the core issues of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, particularly as Benjamin Netanyahu has gone back to over and over again in the education system. So, on giving the educational materials that have been found from Hamas schools in the Gaza Strip, coupled by this statement from the Palestinian Authority on the massacre, I think that is an Israeli red line, which Israel is going to be able to hold to on the day after. I think we'll have a very convincing case to present to the United States, to European governments, and frankly, to Arab governments as well. And I wonder, for that matter what they think in Riyadh and in Abu Dhabi and in Manama and even in Cairo and maybe even in Amman when they see something like this coming out of the Palestinian Foreign Ministry. Right, so we're joined in studio with retired IDF Colonel Dr. Jacques Naria. What do you make of this? Well, I cannot but agree with what Owen has said. I mean, the Palestinian Authority has shot itself. I mean, they have committed suicide yesterday by setting those imbecilities. And I think that they really believe so. They do believe that because I saw in the Arab media that a repercussion enormous, that it was helicopters, Israeli countries that killed everybody. They all forgot the pictures, the cameras the helmet cameras that the terrorists had on themselves that took photos of everything. The body cams. The body cams, exactly so. So what is going to happen is that if you take a pencil and a paper, you will have to redraw the Middle East after the war. It will be another Palestinian Authority. This will not be the same Palestinian Authority. It has no legitimacy at all right now. And the body that will govern Gaza will be certainly a Palestinian Authority but not the same Palestinian Authority that we are talking about today. It will be another Palestinian Authority that will not teach hatred, that will not teach austerity, that will not teach to kill Jews from kindergarten to the graduation. I think that and of course security has to be in our hands on the border with Egypt on the sea, on the air and along the borders with Gaza. This is going to change the whole Middle East Middle East is going to change also in Lebanon because Israel cannot accept the fact that Hezbollah stays on the fences in the north no Israeli residents will come back there if the terrorists of Hezbollah will be watching on the border so something has to be done there either diplomatically or manually meaning by the means of weapons and what's happening today in the north is we are in fact at war. We are at war. Hezbollah has accustomed us to a nutrition war from if you compare to what was on the 8th of October today we see a huge enormous difference. Intensification of the firing used yesterday 21 anti-tank missiles were fired at the Israeli positions I'm not talking about the mortars I'm not talking about the rockets that are being hitting Israel we are in a position right now on a defense position but we will wait for the right moment in order to just to educate Hezbollah to the real equation between us and Hezbollah and let us not forget that we have another front that is just telling us that we will have to deal with it at Semen. That's right. Thank you Jacques. Last night IDF spokesperson Danielle Higari unveiled surveillance footage showing Hamas terrorists bringing in a Nepali and a Thai hostage into the Shifa hospital on October 7th. The IDF says this is further proof that the hospital is being used as a terror infrastructure. Let's take a listen. After ruthlessly method caring and taking people hostage the terrorists fled to Shifa hospital. They went to the hospital to hide. Here you can see Hamas terrorists drove back from the massacre. This is an Israeli military Jeep they brought into the hospital I want to repeat and just to make everybody understand. They're bringing an Israeli Jeep a military Jeep into the hospital compound a place terrorists should not enter. They're entering with a military Jeep This is 1050 one of the toyotas that used Hamas in the 7th of October are bringing hostages into the hospital. We have found this toyota a different one with all the gear and hidden in a garage inside the hospital. She was ready to go to the 7th of October massacre like other toyotas going back into the hospital using the hospital as a terror base. Another Jeep another Israeli military vehicle entering into the Shifa hospital using the Shifa hospital as a human shield shelter to Hamas terrorists bringing military equipment to the vicinity of the hospital. Here you can see Hamas taking a hostage inside the vicinity. He doesn't look even He even doesn't look need a treatment but they're taking inside the hospital. I will now share this video that shows the same hostage entering into the hospital with a gunman terrorist inside the hospital. This is the main entrance of the hospital. For more on this we are now joined again by our 24 news senior correspondent Owen Alterman. Owen we're seeing this footage from the Shifa hospital. The IDF is presenting clear evidence. What do you make of this? To get the international media to understand this story from Israel's perspective is a long slog. But you just see that Daniel Hagarian is taking them on that long trip. It's obviously very frustrating because international media organizations are holding Israel to a higher standard than Hamas in terms of demanding verification and so forth. I think it's an unreasonably high standard and unreasonably high standard for the burden of proof. That's that of course when a military goes into the main hospital of a territory let alone in the middle of a war obviously there is a high bar. Look I think to date the military has established that Hamas was using the hospital for military purposes and I think that's been published to the satisfaction of international news organizations. The next step of course is going beyond that showing indeed that the headquarters were in the bottom below the hospital that the bunkers were there. All of the things that Daniel Hagarian showed in that presentation of the 3D images the military itself, the military itself the IDF itself has said that is the standard it needs to meet. We're still a long way from getting there as I said it's a long slog Hagarian himself has said that it's going to take time for the military to safely be able to go and to reveal these and to understand what was there and to be able to then safely discover it and safely show it to international media. I will say that at least the media internationally seems to be showing some patience with the IDF and understanding that process and willing to suspend judgment in the meantime. But certainly the bar remains high and the IDF is going to need to meet it I suspect they will but that's not free from doubt. Again not that I doubt that what they said was there but there's a difference between it being there and being able to prove it was there. But I suspect that we will get there but it's going to take a long time and there's going to be frustration in the meantime but again I do think it's been established to the satisfaction of international news organizations the hospital was used for military purposes that certainly is an achievement for the IDF Thank you very much Owen Our I-24 news correspondent אורי שפירה, פי לביסת כיבוץ ניראוז, where a quarter of its community were either murdered or abducted. A month and a half into the war some of the residents came to rediscover their homes Let's take a look This is the cup collection of my parents. We brought it from different places. A month and a half after the Hamas onslaught residents of southern Israel are picking up the pieces This house in kibוץ ניראוז belonged to the Rubin family who managed to escape the horrific attack and survived Here four people of our family were hiding. They hid here for two hours My mother was born during the Holocaust Her family hid. She got here when she was a child. It all comes back Several residents of ניראוז came back to the kibוץ to collect their belongings. Among them was Avi Zichri whose wife and nine-year-old son were kidnapped to Gaza Ohad, Karen, Grandma and Grandpa. All of them were here in the safe room. The terrorists came here and took them without any fight The grandfather is very weak and can barely see. They didn't have a choice. At 9 AM we got a message from the grandfather We can't speak. That was it 38 members of the kibוץ were murdered on October 7 75 were abducted around a quarter of the population of this small community. Here in the kibוץ dining room a tribute to the hostage and fallen was laid The empty mailboxes have stickers. Red for those who were murdered. Black for those who were abducted. A few blue ones for the hostages who were released. We met the son of one of them. You have it live sheets was one of the few hostage set free. His father is still being held in Gaza It's very hard to return here. It's my childhood home. Every house tells a story here. We can see three houses of abducted people here. Here we see the house of someone I've known for my entire life a classmate. His father was murdered Kibוץ near Oz was established in 1955 and was a collective community until recent years In the center of the kibוץ we can find a beautiful ecosystem garden This garden called the green point contains rare trees which were brought from Australia and designed to grow in desert conditions Designer of this place called the green spot is Ron Pauker who lost his brother in the massacre During the winter the garden will survive also without special care and I hope that till the spring we will reclaim all of this garden I am not worried about the garden Though some residents say they are willing to return to the kibוץ Hadar who left the kibוץ 27 years ago says that she doesn't think all the residents will come back but she is fully committed to her home I think that this harsh event that we all went through proved to all of us how much we all belong to the same place we speak the same language we are a community even if we don't live here anymore.


Hi, Andras here with The Open Group. So your organization wants to become a trustworthy technology provider, especially after the latest supply chain security attacks. Good news? We got you covered. This is a first in a series of videos on understanding the OTTPS certification process. And don't forget to check out the other videos from my colleagues in the Trusted Technology Forum. So first things first, there is actually two Trusted Technology Provider Certification Programs. One for organizations, the other for people. And in this video series, we will focus on the organizational certification against ISO 20243, conformance criteria. So your organization can become certified by following proven Trusted Technology Provider Practices. Keep a watch out here for more videos on both these topics. The Open Trusted Technology Provider Standard defines industry best practices for mitigating supply chain risk across the technology product lifecycle from inception through development into sustainment and finally disposal or deprecation. OTTPS is also known as ISO IEC 20243 or just ISO 20243, an international standard. The certification program is an organizational assessment against the controls to mitigate supply chain risk across the manufacturing, development, and distribution lifecycle. This is a certification that is applicable for information and communication technology vendors, integrators, and their channel suppliers. Like all certifications against any standard, terminology reigns supreme. So it's important you learn the standard and certification terminology. Here are some terms and definitions that are essential for successful certification and you can find more in each of the document glossaries. You might want to pause the video here to become familiar with these terms. Here's a diagram that depicts the standards and certification process. The standards authority is responsible for developing and maintaining the standard. The certification authority manages, maintains, and awards certifications. Any references to organization refers to the technology provider seeking certification. Now recognize third party assessors must go through training to become certified themselves and are responsible for evaluating an organization's claim of conformance during the certification process. Once certified an organization, well they become a trust in technology provider and is placed into the certification registry for customer validation. You can determine how much information you want to externalize there. The certification authority provides certification and testing services and in this case it will be the open group. So your organization has recognized the need to become a certified trusted technology provider. Well let's talk about that journey that you're about to embark on. Our journey has three primary phases. The guidance here is based on observed best practices for successful certification. First your organization must learn about the standard, the underlying practices and controls and determine if they meet those requirements. If not remediation must be implemented before continuing. Many organizations use the certification process and guidance as a way to enforce and implement supply chain risk management practices across their organization. In other words the certification becomes the forcing function. Once the internal organization assessment has determined you're ready it's time to prepare for certification. Preparation is essential for a successful assessment. Your company will need to empower individuals who are able to gather and manage the certification documentation and support the assessor as they complete their evaluation. As importantly your organization will define a certification scope and document how controls and practices are applied to mitigate risks to your technology supply chain. Once you work with and support the recognized assessor as they review the evidence and potentially request additional supporting documentation that meets the claims of your scope. The certification assessment policy defines three formal phases an organization must complete to obtain certification. In the first phase the organization must formally define their certification scope in a document called the ISCA or implementation selection criteria application. It's the certification authority's responsibility to validate the submission of the ISCA. The scope of assessment refers to the description of the organizational structure being assessed. For example a vendor's operating system product line would be an example of what would be documented in the scope. In phase two after the ISCA and application have been accepted the organization must provide documented evidence that supports their claim made in the ISCA in a certification package. In phase three a recognized assessor is assigned by the certification authority to evaluate the organization's certification package against the certification conformance criteria. This is done using the evidence provided to support the claims in the ISCA or certification scope. The scope defines a set of selective representative products that serves as samples for the assessor to validate the implemented controls and practices as described by the organization's implementation evidence. Implementation evidence is supported by artifacts that show how the required process has been applied to the selected representative products. Should assessor determine that the claims are not supported by the evidence then the organization must remediate the unsubstantiated claims and implement the missing necessary controls and practices. This of course can be avoided if your organization follows the best practice journey previously discussed. Alright your organization is ready to join the ranks of those certified as trusted technology providers. Here's a list of all the documentation and the link to the certification site where it's found and there are three really very important documents to get started with. They are the standard, the ISCA and the assessment requirements and procedures. It's important to note that not all the requirements defined in the standard are required for certification. Those best practices controls that are required by the standard are identified as must versus should implement requirements. In addition the development of the ISCA scoping document will further refine which requirements are applicable to a particular provider. For example those requirements not applicable for a channel provider may exclude some product lifecycle manufacturing controls. It depends on where in the product lifecycle your organization does business. And don't forget there are consultants ready to help understand these nuances. Just reach out to the certification authority to get a list. Well thanks for listening and in subsequent videos I'll dive down into the conformance criteria and the specifics of creating a certification scope. And hey, don't forget to subscribe to our blog, download the publications, get engaged in the OTTF and become a trusted technology provider. Thank you.