Good morning America Good morning everybody welcome back to another stream. Hope you guys are doing great. Hope you guys had had a great Thanksgiving, hope you guys didn't spend too much money in Black Friday on Black Friday In Black Friday no man Cyber Monday is still up. So there's still opportunities to still spend money I didn't find anything interesting didn't buy anything I don't know one of the first years I actually didn't buy anything I'm trying to find stuff to buy the sake of buying stuff, but you know what? It's just not really anything So, I mean there's signs inflation is real Enough of enough deadly dallying. Let's probably get started actually We can start off the back of the hills and what happened? Thursday Friday That is Sunday and just monitoring the weekends. We can see that we did get a large drop on the Monday And it's something that we expected I mean, it's like okay looking at the whole of last week. This was the weekly range in the white We predicted sort of a measure If we stay within our stop hunt range, which is the red box here five twenty five to five five hundred an absolute units away from the top of this high or 25 to 50 pits From this point is essentially just a still a short and Looking at sort of Thursday. We saw the market being closed Friday half day market. So only Asia and London really care Caring for the market New York had really only trained until one our training sessions and we carried on That a Sunday came around worked the highs for a bit but still sort of kept within that sort of stop-hunt range and Ultimately led us to say, you know what? We're still feeling short Another sort of key indication is just looking at sort of daily imbalances and stuff like that during the weekend And even the Friday as well leading into the weekend It's always nice to sort of look at that Because these are ultimately what leads into having sort of price gaps and price foids especially looking at sort of Friday As we see this is Friday's one as you can see we came back to it touched it Right sat they come up here. I do they would have liked it perfect world to retest their Open around here then just slam it down. But again, not always gonna get the perfect chances This is Binance Futures so spread was most likely tighter than most exchanges Giving that sort of reason so we didn't really hit it But we sort of saw Saturday come down and we know we still had Sunday to trade So we expected that rise just if anything just to go further down Current sort of sentiments We'll sort of look at that right now We had the large major drop-off bit thin on the books here more so heavy on the Top and the bottom to be expected not many people trades on on the Asia market and most that was of the back-end heal off of liquidation so That's something very non-committal for me. Yay. That's that's definitely something No on a serious note, but yeah, it's just shown that yeah, it's not really people shorting It's not really people entering positions. Most of us on that offset. Okay.  It's like They decided Mondays. Yeah, it's not looking too hot. So they're probably go show off that hill and they show in the bottom We ended up on that view up here see here as you can see I mean reset and as soon as that day reset on that three hours, we just carry carried that over We're now just trading and then creating a little sort of divot for us to sort of trade long into and just create smaller liquidation pockets From these shorts at these bottoms, which just tells me that I will probably continue our past downwards So if anything we might get another extension A doubt we'll get any level of higher magnitude of that extension I mean worst case if we do get some magnitude in this extension. They'll just retest back at sort of 16 350 worst case, but usually you're just saying this is okay. It's done deal. They've probably seen this area here New York will probably try carry this down a bit further and try fill out the bottom Because remember a lot from last week and if we go back and look at our charts, we're looking at this saying, okay We're up here We're in our stop on range. We ideally want to come here We'll set up for this in the week if we get that as a potential scalp, but generally We're most more likely looking for 60 a 15 850 15 750 or just thereabouts in sort of In terms of a deep deep seeded, I think a retracement or an more sort of Well adjusted sort of retracement and I was harking back out to back into sort of okay We sort of had this prior Gap open here and we filled it in a week later So there's some sort of time measures that we can allow ourselves especially looking at sort of hourly or 15 minutes charts we give it sort of some level of expiry A week into sort of maybe even a bit longer But not more than sort of two to three weeks Even three two weeks is a bit stretching. Just keep out two weeks. Hey, hey So looking at the hour again same sort of void same sort of presence again telling us sort of 15 750 50s could easy extend downwards We're definitely got sort of get the people who are saying oh, yeah, there's there's a short here But we sort of extend a bit high Trap sort of liquidity here then go down and that's what you're ideally looking for if we're being mean about things and Sort of sort of see that you have to sort of look at book maybe don't have to but it does help in sort of identifying Okay, there's your liquidations as liquidations They're just trying to get shorts out the market just trying to say, okay, you know what people are getting comfortable in this short here We don't really want them to be comfortable. So we need to sort of drive price up take a third sort of liquidity point then push down Then we can get that sort of 50 750 a sort of figure there about hey Let's look at a spot again trying to contrast spot against futures. It's always nice to sort of Look at the two you can see a lot of sort of offloading on this sort of higher end here You can see a lot of people selling and then so I just want to keep this controlled and just look at sort of on the 23rd so Roughly about five days something from the Wednesday when we did reach this sort of high and again because again we sort of daily Would really like to reach us daily in balance and damp damp. Yeah With the ethereum after this You can see here. This is when you saw the panic selling and and and so not really panic saying but sort of Smart money sort of selling into people longing So they're just taking an interest using this as an opportunity to sell off And it's something you got a look at and you've got a contrast and this is what I say to people like It's all well and good just to look at sort of futures for bookmap data but if you'll if you have the availability to have two of them at the same time contrast spot and futures because they'll give you two deltas because there are these two different sort of Markets in terms of how use how they trade it ones about acquiring assets and ones about acquiring sort of Percentage gains I think it's the best way to put it so if this if a spot is the Pursuit of gaining as much as Bitcoin as possible and they're just selling off here And and they're selling off people who are willingly buying and using arbitrage to buy up these areas here They just say, okay, you know what there's a massive sort of sell coming in here We want to drop it down and it still does show the same sort of area with sport as this is again Numbers if they're, you know, you're universal Universal cross-sport and futures and they should be clearly visible as such They're not really that visible. They'll probably be some tomfoolery Taking place and you're gonna have to ever round to find out And the more you have around the more you're gonna find out. I'm sorry That means been stuck in my head for the last couple of days. It's just so funny Seeing some buys coming in and then they could be most likely ill advised and you see that selling up here To those people entry into as long so someone is offloading this sort of taking that and selling down And they'll sort of average that back in average back in and you'll see them on the way back up do that Pretty a simplistic overview. We want to expect it to come down Best that work case depending on if you're in or Already in a short not in a short You'll probably get a spike high to try take out Asia. Maybe get a slight greedy retest higher Bob this level and I cut them.   So they say, oh, yeah, this is this is a flag I want this to go down if everyone's can see that it wants to go down They'll make the break here and if they trade the break here and you see the break here And you see it be heavy short.  There we go. I'm gonna show it from 20 oh eight. You still held it. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, do you at least push your stop? Uh, let's see. I mean at least push your stop tonight. Uh, you can even put it 17 1175 you know, you got all like top of this area Like push your stop there like start greeting and start protecting what you've made There's no sense in giving it back. You don't have to take profit But just at least it's advised to sort of push stops Uh, because once you get knocked out, you're like, ah, cool. I made some money Uh, let's sort of pull out the book map. Uh Again, the theorem is always less than reputable For Less than seller for like looking at sort of data Have to always mess with them just always Always messes with me to mess with those like So ugly. Why are you so ugly? this spot again Not exactly the same as few uh, finance where we saw we saw some offloading here But mostly it's just most as we started seeing a lot of panic selling here So some buys uh rebies at this level mean very sort of strong Rebies as you can see creating that sort of ledge just creating that sort of okay people are selling. This is getting absorbed This is just clear telltale science and we talked about this was uh, Just general things if if uh, if this is going down And this is going relatively uh sideways. This just sort of entails to us that okay Someone's definitely eating uh, very big here. So they're just taking this and just saying you know what?  Yeah, okay, that's nice. Yeah, as long as you're taking profit along the way more power to you Uh, again, I'm not here to tell you how to trade and just to give you sort of some guidelines Some suggestions, but ultimately it's down to you Then I always find that you get you get the most reward Uh in doing that because you it's it's it's off your own merit You can say that I did this instead of some guy on the internet told me to do this uh Let's just in the teacher. Uh, so we sort of want to mark this out. You can see sort of uh 1165 Thereabouts is where you have that large sort of volume dot and we started seeing that sort of massive sort of sell-off So I'd say this is starting to look a bit sort of bullish in terms of spot Someone's accumulating large a percentage of uh, that sort of uh selling pressure And happy to average that Uh, again doesn't stop it from getting creating a second leg down if you look at sort of future data I need to clean this up Because I reduced the tick size. Uh, that's too much The power having manual control, uh, let's go. Okay. You can see this just Heavy offset of liquidations. It's it's easy. It's one of the things that it's very hugged together I mean, but as you can see how how close the walls are and how much a liquidity gets created You can see all those traps Released pretty much partial here rest of it here very aggressive. This just creates this entire question of okay People who were late to the party decided to short this area here And uh, we saw that those shorts were picked up on spot as well as uh, people who are shorting also, uh Also getting this whole area is still getting picked up on spot less, uh, less of the accumulation on futures, which is interesting uh, it just shows that it's sort of a larger sort of, uh Firm, I'd say firm is correct word Uh, just picking up spot because they're the only real real ones that mess around the spot because mostly, uh, Most idiots are our own futures.  I don't I need to leverage my equity because I don't have enough and so on and so forth It's just like, ah, what do I do 100x that baby? 100x that uh, but generally on the larger scale, uh, definitely is, uh, considered considerably more bullish, uh, I'd say, uh, but Just for us to wait and see, uh, again If bitcoin does decide to go down and target these lower areas here, east will probably do a more controlled measure push Hit this area, uh, if it holds it, you're probably just waiting, uh, to buy on a heavy sort of short, uh Pop or a liquidation pop and then sort of reverse off of that And that sort of we need to sort of try to figure out magnitude wise. Where would that be if you look at the hour hour supports at 11 58 Cool, that's that's nice I think we do have sort of some volume here as we already know there's volume here propping up, uh, this area just above this point If we look at the hour closes We can go ahead and see these closes are relatively nice and kept together And just shows that there is a willingness to defend it again For those who don't have raindrop access or raindrop candles, uh, you can visualize, uh, volume As sort of where price is closing if you go and switch back to raindrops as you can see There you go where we had these closes just there about is where we did have the volume and we had the closes here It's where we had the volume and again It's a nice sort of easy way if we see clusters of clothes, uh, bodies together It's safe to say that's where most of the volume in that candle resides Uh, if we get wicks again in most instances wicks are very, uh, sort of Thin and sort of volumes because they're just there just takes it out stops and it'll be a sort of cascade of stops If they take a concentrate sort of a point, uh, they can create Sort of a large sort of point here and and create sort of volume there And those will be retested at a later point. So again, there's some sort of variations and Uh, usually if you don't have raindrops and you do have book map, you can just sort of mark it out with book map Say, okay, you know what this number here? It's a wick on an actual chart. Okay, uh, but it's it's a very large volume Okay, what does that mean? You know what it might retest this and mark that out It's just all about remembering sort of key points that most people won't ever think of and most people won't ever see because they don't They rely too heavily on indicators rather than price action So that it is a that is a tech tip. It's the Linus tech tip Not really, but yeah Have you sort of delts down, uh, so monday's already sort of wanting to go for blood and uh, I kind of want to look at Sort of yes to see where we are in sort of in the phases of the moon Not really, but you know You see that sort of nice little curve I mean, you can only go down that so much It's uh, I probably want to drop up to a daily We see that sort of volume area here where we did want to come to very sort of weirdly did just like It's just so weird See if we can get a retest somewhere here on Probably need to go drop back down to lower time frame to see where we can get a retest. Maybe Let's get retest at 398150 Really nice sort of tick. We have volume here. We have a blue candle Excuse me. We have a blue candle here We'll sort of say okay people trading Drop they want this to go down all the way to here We get it down to here. They start shorting here and we sort of reverse it could sort of lead to sort of a a slight reclaiming of some levels And we're still looking best case 16500 500 Fill out some inefficiencies retest sort of these areas here If we look at that as from my perspective of volume Just drill into this part. There we go Gain 16500 comes in where we start having these sort of trapped longs We start running into trouble when we really I mean not really too much in terms of release because these guys Have been liquidated At a later point that we need to zoom in further try to get less data Try to get more breaks again 16450 just at this sort of break here But we have this sort of prior sort of fall it off so Best case free tests we're going up here But ideally looking for lower Again, nice little range to sort of play with it's pretty much a thousand apart on each side 16500 15500 I mean 1575 so Really not really a thousand but 750 range Not really the best a quarter But it is what it is So, I mean if you do see a retest downwards, uh, so again You're looking at a flag I think it's just best if I just do this Wow remove that many drawings.  There we go. We're trading in sort of Hemium slash discount discounting areas here Again, anything below here. It's pretty decent sort of say, okay getting a bit into here. It's not too bad Let's sort of add in sort of ote targets. So anything from 50 to there we go Is these numbers we start using magical numbers as you can see best sort of entry Average would be 15 750 15 800 850 just around there.  That's sort of your long Scenario there or you can risk it. I would not try to catch the following that. I mean, you know, you probably get away with it but If we end up just pulling down Then people start getting comfortable with sort of get the short volume starts coming out here instead of here That's where you start falling into trouble. So you have to sort of instead of using sort of limit bids in this sort of Just have to just wait and say, okay, you know what? The pieces are there The volume is finally there. I'm seeing the right thing So I can go for it if it's not if the volume is not there then you're not going to go for it Okay, that's simple And that is one of the powers of book map volume knowledge Um, sorry, I just have to do that Uh, any sort of old coins you wanted me to go over? Uh, I'm on a discretionary chart Where are you coming to retest here? Uh, oh, yeah, spicy. How was your trip hunting trip? Did you shoot any deer? I mean, there's one too and we're finally getting that swing probably leading to a swing failure Uh, seeing how we're already getting a bit long on that. I kind of want to zoom in a bit further Just focus on sort of where London's trading for today Uh, oh, yeah, I need to talk about news Uh, as you can see comes in that wall just phantoms in here pulls up starts getting those guys long You want to see those longs? Leading to sort of a failure. That's what you're looking for And uh, best bids probably want to remove that just because it starts to No, I want that. I want last price. There we go There we go.  Ah Can't hit a target Can't hit it. God damn, man Uh news, yes News, uh, we want to play around, uh, sort of timings Looks like the only timing we really have to play around is 12 o'clock today Uh, so again, if we see a lead up, uh, and then sort of a build up of longs leading up to 12 We want to short that 12 o'clock if we see a decline Leading up to 12 o'clock. You're probably wanting too long that plain and simple If we get some whips or we get whips or game sometimes we might not get the magnitude we want What I mean by that is you might not necessarily get, uh, sort of very violent moves Like we didn't get a too violent move here But we had that news release we're expecting that but we did get sort of, uh, the move And the direction but not necessarily the figure. So it's just something sort of, uh Taper your expectations, uh Because I know something that oh, yeah, it's going to be awesome It's going to it's going to blow up like this now But it's not necessarily always the case but sometimes you can get it to blow up like this But it's not always so reliant into doing so So you get direction not necessarily magnitude for magnitude You just have to sort of look at other things like Where we're targeting for this we targeted outside the range and just pull back and just Even took out that stop here and that was our target Take out the stop push back down and then just push back down back into sort of this candle plain and simple So there was your sort of magnitude just by looking at candles Had a good time at least yeah, it's nice to hear man As long as you had a good time now, that's all that matters spend spend time as a family while whilst they're there Have a good time have some beers go hunting Shoot some animals Looks like there we go. There was that retest that view app Hopefully we sort of get some sort of level of decline If we can get that push leading up into 12 again We can sort of counter that into a long add that 12 o'clock sort of stage in life Uh, can we look at some scanners? I think we can yeah, why not? I don't like how this is leveling out I mean, this is the first time we really open. I mean if you've got some stop-punts here again anorexic some volume relatively anorexic uh, but So this is what we have in terms of volume wise can we go lower? Yeah At the same time, uh, we're pretty sort of I think sort of an offset of short volume Look, I think we have other data for this. No, we don't. Uh, that's sad Actually, we can let it spy for other data. There we go Short volume there you go. Short volume is pretty down for spy Just buy it is up here or gap down very aggressively So we're currently here We'll get down very aggressively try to fill out Uh, I mean, we're at 4,000 400. Yeah, we're uh, We're on tier actually there we go Everything's so distorted, but we get down Might fill out that sort of fill out that top range with eith then we can push down Again short throw double double top m So, I mean again, it's just this is just divided by 10 so like 400 and And two is around here. So we're around here. That's where we're currently, uh, slated to open for Yes, which will leave a void from here To wherever we open And if we go up fill that out Again, it's the same concept as we trade sort of with uh price voids here As you can see that's pretty much where we're looking to target if we open up fill out There's your short push down In in in a perfect world But looking at sort of where we closed off friday Just above this collected volume It's easy to say. Well, it's generally down from here. I don't think there's too much, uh Too much to argue about in in that sort of uh aspect if you look at There's only three years of doing a goddamn last week Uh Let's go back as long as we can 2003 decent week in terms of profitability uh average mean Uh, it's positive again next couple of weeks after that is where we get a bit Hectic as people try to take profit for the year Oh god, damn. It's it's already been a year. It's felt like How this year went really quick Uh, but it's it only felt like yesterday where where we saw a massive sort of uh take profit off for that Uh weekly trip. I mean yearly trip to aspen Uh, where was that? Yeah, damn. Yeah, damn. Uh, there you go There's that december Time to go to aspen Oh wow They kind of didn't really h2l did it h-line, I guess I mean, this is why if you just trade the rangers, you don't really care about if it goes up and down You just care about if he makes you money or not Okay Probably considering it's a decent week, uh before if you go down monday go down tuesday wednesday create a pivot Thursday friday up could be nice wednesday is pretty heavy stacked for newsdays If you go back and uh, look at the uh, when use that tuesdays see factors are a decent amount of data But wednesday is a real kicker. We have a lot of data coming in Uh, love to see how that affects that as well as uh, I have such a dirty mind God damn. I got uh, I have to double take that name. Okay. I am childish Uh, but 130 on wednesday could be nice, uh, but again a lot of data coming in on wednesday Like it's usually to be expected this middle of the week again. Follow that up by like 13 in the morning Just just hammering hammering and hammering it in Uh, non-farm payrolls on thursday that that this is uh This is always fun. Uh, these are usually skip days. I mean if non-farm payroll comes out, uh, you'll always get like sort of this thing Whipsaw coming in, uh, and it's always sort of good if you can if you know how to trade and hopefully What time is it? It's usually 8 30 when I start streaming. Yeah, 8 30 news release I mean, I can try come on a bit earlier. We start to prep for it Uh, as long as you can prep for the non-farm payroll, you can probably do that on the day before uh Probably a good again Uh, doesn't sort of leave the fact that we do expect today to try and come down Best case we get is a retest at at sort of 16 500 Uh, and for es is just uh, it's a void fill And a push down even if you don't void fill today Look to do it tomorrow And then Wednesday sort of just reverses whatever we did uh monday tuesday uh, if we look at sort of Last week as as a sort of a picture In monday coming here tuesday, they get wednesday starts to reverse that And actually, I mean tuesday into wednesday it starts reversing the entirety of that We hang around because I mean instead of it being a five day week. So it was a Pretty much three and a half day week So we had to do things a bit early Uh, we stopped haunted that range and pushed back down. So again weekly cycle pretty much Is as is monday tuesday Uh are nice for setup wednesday is usually reversals friday is usually again Just tapers off for the sort of for profit taking for the week Uh, I want uh, you want lower? Yeah, so do I ben so do I I want to can hope I want to can only hope That's the thing like again, uh like a lot the previous week before we were looking for a certain level for a really long time It's just I mean we can look for things until until until we die But it doesn't necessarily mean we'll always get them. It's just we expect it We just don't have we have a time frame to when we expect it a week or two But we don't really sort of care if it hits or not because we're trying to trade what we see not what we what we want That's the major thing That's what retail does they they trade they trade what they want They they want price to go down they trade it down They want price to go up. They always want price to go up. So they always trade bullish Uh, I don't think any that's not a salon. I guess I mean Should we set this meme of December? I mean if this week ends up reversing off of the uh Of the back end, uh Off of wednesday and on one peril Probably expect some decline more declining and finally probably the third And final sort of profit-taking uh sticker I mean end of the year creates a sort of massive sort of shift So maybe after sort of christmas when we saw when they sort of come back from aspen And even to the tail end of uh, sort of the second week of uh Yeah, second week of january. We may expect something more sort of heavier to take place, but january We're not overtly, uh, gonna be bullish until we see some major shift again looking for Like I explained in sort of the short discord discord discord video. We're looking for a clear clearance of seven 17 500 uh to move on to that into that sort of next sort Into that transitionary quarter Uh, say a major quarter to that 20k area Look at salana, uh again Uh Daily levels came back to that as you can see here. It's another right if you don't have historical data on book map Again, great tool to look at volume. If you don't have this or you don't want to pay for this Fair enough. Just use atas same thing. It's all about having history. History is always really great to have Uh, that's one of the major things people sort of forget about historical data, especially when trading uh Depth of market because it's uh very much a fleeting measure Because you don't really have it for the second and it goes away So if you can have history, it's very powerful And I always do recommend it because you get to see stuff like this Where if you didn't trade that or didn't look at look at that on the day you're to have it as a Measure to look at now So we see it come back down hit the daily level Trap shorts push out nice outside structure could be very much a bullish sort of move And it's not really wasn't really too affected. I actually was actually Uh It was sort of that push down from that uh weekend as you can see just sort of hit that Not really too sort of too much, but it did hit into that Again major blow for solana with sort of ftx and stuff like that. So hopefully you can sort of try find its feet here Again, this was super simple super easy done. This was our range 50 percent thereabouts of our range In retest that bearishly push this down It's like nothing can get easy unless it simplifies trading. You're looking at just volume and time It looks a bit bullish. See if it can fill out To 14 even number you can fill out 14 even number. Maybe that's a bearish retest and pushes back down I just Actually, I have to draw this out for you guys so that you guys who are Can't visualize that maybe something like this then maybe pushes breaks through Finally hits and caps are 10 Doesn't matter where it does Pass that point because we only trade day day to day. We don't really care for sort of longer numbers Because crypto is not one of the things that I've ever wanted to invest in long term because I mean I mean come on man It's just a fad It's not the future. I'm just blockchain is oh, hey, uh, do you guys hear about that? It's just saying China China's doing they have the experimenting with digital currency that has an expiration date Uh, so people are more inclined to sort of spend Uh If that's not an inflation sign, I don't know what is Encouraging people to spend by forcing them to spend or they lose their money A very great way to invite in fight to fight inflation Maybe I guess we'll see if it works out the long run, but Very dicey very dicey, uh, to say the least uh Again Like communism you have to Fuck around to find out I'm sorry.   It's it's a very funny meme. Just trust me and you can use it in all aspects of life The more you f around the more you're gonna find out and the more Okay, that's him Heavy on this short again similar to solana. It looks like most of the orcs are doing the same thing But we're just on that weekly line. It's a stronger sort of support metric. It's last longer Again, the highest of time frame will uh level uh the greater The greater we weighed that in terms of magnitude wise again same sort of thing we trapped volume outside push out Could definitely see that retest, uh, especially if we stay above 3 9.6 348 But again most all coins are dying To be expected dark I mean, this is Thing is We have a we have polka dot conference. I guess today Uh, I doubt anything will come of it Uh, we'll see if it's in a position I mean, we've been looking at it for a while and we've been seeing it just slowly and slowly Just declining volume and just declining just popularity Uh, it's just yeah, it's just very grim very grim uh So if you look at the whole of november just do a quick overview I mean we tapped the sort of daily resistance a couple of times push back down Run out of these four hours. You can see they just cluster create that big resistance here push down In back they filled out this which is slightly bullish, uh, but and then especially if we hold, uh 5.1. Let's just say 5.1 Think of rounding If so if we retest we hold 5.1 We could look pretty bullish and and I'll our next sort of areas is five even anyway Uh, if you hit five even we're probably hitting down take this liquidity point out Sort of creating that big volume then push out if if the conference can't do anything for if if there's no sort of uh Take that word but if there's no hypo Fanfare I guess yeah fanfare would be a better word If there's no fanfare surrounding, uh, I don't know how it survives, uh, especially with just Like I can look at this now and then just tell you these candles are very devoid of volume and devoid of any sort of Variants and there we go Like I said, it's this looks very blocky and and very illiquid And and we don't like trading these sort of things so Again, that's what that's why you go to now. He says it's not tradable. You you want to go up instantly to a four hour It's more of a longer term coin from the looks of it volume sort of dying off, uh And you see a lack of interest, but it's always nice to look at those coins and just say hmm At some point there is a turning point where those guys just blow up. It becomes a pump and dump Uh becomes great currency Uh to trade So it's it's always nice to look at but generally Just want to stay away from those for like day trading. It's the volume's not there the spread won't be there Anytime you enter into a position you might you won't get Too much out of it. So I would recommend not really looking at it as a day trade Just waiting for correct figures to try and get a nice little swing. I mean, it could be in a nice position to give you a nice little Double a second leg to an actual second leg Generally not too bad Was news releases Was bitcoin wanting to do a bit A bit further of a retest could sort of give it Some undertones of bullishness At least it should be something you should watch in the next coming sort of days And it's something you should keep in radar if not just to sort of uh prove me wrong. I'm joking Uh no that's vindictive and and it's childish Uh Just like me Uh looking at bitcoin hasn't moved an inch since we've talked retest it comes back down to here just Holding off that on that short sort of ledge that we have here Maybe we look for that second pop higher and it does actually sort of Line up with spy open. We have that massive influx of volume come out Tap at that top then we sort of uh decline off of that and again tap will come somewhere around here Uh, maybe we stop a bit earlier, but generally, uh, we give it until sort of 16 500 for a stretch Short throw would be 16 300 then we come back at later time to retest that We've sinned that data Again, uh, your 12 o'clock is a turning point. So if we do end up just going in and saying, okay We had that push down push up 12 o'clock comes we just the opposite but right now we're just trading inside the daily imbalance Again Any sort of retest any sort of break retest there you go. There's your entry there And it could be it's like this So you might want to go into a minute chart and say, okay, it's gonna do this gonna do that whatever whatever Wait for the week to sort of give us the volume break data uh monthly is sort of I mean we sort of change month Yeah Within the week so which that that'll be interesting a lot of people are Are very impartial to selling into the month. Uh, so But it could be one of those things where we It's just people profitech of the months shift out with the december Could be it could be hairy I mean, it's Wednesday. It's where we sort of make uh Wednesday Thursday looks like we're going to make out most of The bulk of our decisions for the week and we are more sort of profitable sort of trades I guess I mean Yeah, it was the case last time again. I tell on the wednesday also The that what yeah, Wednesday Thursday short into Into current sort of timing Not bad Because I mean if you miss a trade, you're always tomorrow Don't don't need to stress yourself And I I'm just gonna leave that off. Uh, yeah, I mean I've run out of things to say. I think I'm repeating to myself That doesn't sound like a broken record, but if you guys just go back onto that youtube Bookmap youtube just replay the video if you missed uh missed out Again, I repeat every so often Uh, it should give you a general sort of overtone of what you guys should be expecting Shouldn't be a hard day to trade. Uh, it looks pretty simple Uh, just waiting for us to fight it open and then sort of uh, then decide where we want to break Just counter Just count or whatever you see in terms of from this point We've trade down short If you see heavy short and bookmap just counter it if you see this push up you can try and counter it here We have that first test at uh, 1300 here. We fill off this bar here That's sort of first point second second point, uh, where we give that spread we sort of trade into that Then we sort of look for that reverse and that will give us sort of that nice little double top that we get Void filled with spy Hopefully that lines up one to one might or not might not always be the case, but You can always uh pray for extremes So thank you guys so much for coming today. Hope you guys have a great day. Enjoy Uh, try not to lose all your money today. There's always tomorrow Uh, you can always lose it There's always chance to lose your money. Okay, so don't don't don't rush to lose it So thank you guys like once more and I will catch you guys tomorrow. Peace


We're going to talk a little bit about prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells. Both of these words come from Latin, and the root karyos in Latin means kernel, and in biology we use that word to refer to the nucleus. So that gives us a little bit of a clue as to the differences between prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells, because pro means before, this word refers to before a nucleus, and u means true or good, this word refers to a true nucleus. So one of the major differences is that prokaryotic cells have no nucleus, and eukaryotic cells have a true nucleus. Another major difference that can be defined using the origins of the word is that pro, since it means before, prokaryotic cells are more ancient. They're ancient, they're older than eukaryotic cells, which are more contemporary. In addition to lacking a nucleus, prokaryotic cells lack many other organelles. For example, the chlorophyll that any photosynthetic prokaryotic cells use is spread throughout the cytoplasm, whereas in eukaryotic cells that chlorophyll is in chloroplasts. The DNA in eukaryotic cells is organized into chromosomes, whereas the DNA in prokaryotic cells is organized into a plasmid.  Because prokaryotic cells have no nucleus and no organelles, they're often considered simpler than eukaryotic cells, which are more complex. And they're often smaller. On average, eukaryotic cells are about 10 times larger than prokaryotic cells. These types of cells, prokaryotic cells, can be found in bacteria and archaea, whereas eukaryotic cells make up plant and animals. This should give you a background on some of the major differences between prokaryotic and eukaryotic cells.


So welcome, and today I have the pleasure to have Robert Corrington with me for a conversation that will be partly focused on your ideas about what you call aesthetic naturalism. And I am going to pretend that I don't know much about it, which is partly true in fact, but I find it extremely intriguing for someone who doesn't, who has not heard about it, there's a claim that sounds very familiar. And that is that you write that nature is all that there is, and there is nothing divine or otherwise that is beyond nature. And that for someone who read a little bit of philosophy sounds familiar because we immediately think about Spinoza. My first question would be, how does your approach differ or is similar to Spinoza's one? I can understand equating God and nature in his sense. But if you do that and make them equivalent, you don't need both terms. The difference I have with Spinoza is that I'm very much concentrated on the churning depths of the unconscious of nature as filled with potencies and powers, and as the seedbed for archetypes, which govern and shape the human psyche and nature itself. So I'm adding Jungian psychoanalysis to Spinoza's bare bones pantheism. And so I call my perspective deep pantheism, which means that you still have some dualities, but they're overcome when the human process reaches the state of creativity, and you would find very congenial, I think, from your perspective. So nature-nature-ing, which Spinoza talks about and Aquinas talked about, and my mentor Justice Buckler talked about, is I wouldn't call it divine. I'd call it a perennial creation of nature out of itself alone. There's no one creative act. It's continuous. And I think the Big Bang Theory, whatever its future may be, can fit into that. It is a creative moment. Nature-natured is the indefinitely explorable orders of the world. What Schopenhauer might call the phenomenal piggybacking of Kant. And ecstatic naturalism is concerned with the eruptions of the unconscious of nature through the collective unconscious and the cultural unconscious and the personal unconscious into nature-nature. And these can crests in what I call sacred folds where you have this tremendous pressure and semiotic density, power and meaning come together as Paul Tillich would put it. And this produces what is traditionally called epiphanies. And these epiphanies are best dealt with in the aesthetic realm, because all of my work, and I'm sure your work is committed to nonviolence where possible. In cases where it's not possible, of course. I think the aesthetic sphere is freer from the rigidities and the emotional armoring and the shells were embedded in that you find in the religious sphere. So, Spinoza, for whom I have the greatest respect as a courageous thinker, it's quite grasped what psychoanalysis figured out early on through Freud and the Newman-Rank and Reich, Gustave, Kohut, that were sitting on churning potencies about which we often know very little. So they drive us. And then the question of freedom for me tilts heavily toward determinism. However, if you're riding on the back of a sacred fold and is penetrating you through your transference relationship to it, then you can burst forth with a modicum or more of creative energy to shape the self in process. So, those are some of the things I find lacking in Spinoza, but I prefer him to Leibniz, for example, who I see as a science fiction writer. So, there you go. We'll come back to Leibniz, whom I am really discovering lately or rediscovering. When I was listening to you, I mean, of course, it ringed many bells. The sacred folds seem to echo what Carl Jasper's called cyphers. But before we talk about that, I was also hearing an echo of Plato's Republic, when Socrates says, I want the guardians, the rulers of the city, to be both brave and wise. And he says, that's going to be very rare. And because these are almost like a dialectic tension, which seems to be a little bit the tension that you seem to point, correct me if I'm wrong, in the two faces of nature, the two aspects of... So, and you did talk about violence, right? Yes. Very interesting because, I mean, as humans, and this is also a conversation about philosophical health. So, being in the world and in modernity and yet having aspirations towards knowledge and some form of theosis, I think we would like to speak about that to a bit later. But we need constantly to negotiate, right, between these sort of impulses that are ambiguous. They are both manifesting a energy that is creative, but at the same time, something that can be perceived as violent. So what... Yeah, no, I mean, please. I think what happens, what I push for is if you're going to deal with strong men, strong women, social leaders, you have to embed yourself in psychopathology. Because they're often wrestling with forces in their unconscious and in the cultural unconscious, which feeds into them, kind of a zeitgeist phenomenon if you believe in that. You can't understand what a politician or religious leader would have you is doing, unless you know their personal complexes. That is neurotic disorders or exaggerations or projections. A lot of projection going on in American politics right now, which leads to pretty much nothing of value. So, violence is dealt with through the system. It's dealt with through the psyche. Because we all are addicted as a human being to some forms of violence, even verbal violence. It's not eliminatable, as far as I can tell. But it is shapeable. And here we go back all the way back to Freud with civilization and it's this contents that you sublimate. You form an aggressive impulse into a creative act. And we can't be citizens in a hope for democracy. If we don't know psychopathology and of course civics, which they don't teach much anymore here. Right. Okay, so rewinding a bit, because when I hear psychopathology, I hear again using a platonic, I don't know why I'm so platonic today, probably because I'm also re-reading the Republic, but the correspondence between the microcosm, which can be represented by a one human being and a microcosm. You were talking about the unconscious of nature. So what is that unconscious? Is it simply the creating, the ongoing creation? Or is it something that is only one aspect of that dynamic? Yeah. Good question. I think it's an aspect that is that creative fecundity. You can't have creative fecundity coming out of nature, naturing without an equally strong account of entropy, the eating away of order and heat, so to speak, metaphorical heat. And when the unconscious is in motion, which it always is, but when it's especially active for whatever reasons science could figure out perhaps. And it's going to distort and shape what's in the conscious world or even general consciousness, Kant's, or Jasper's, Bavoussine-Uberhaupt, consciousness in general. Even that can be manipulated. And Kant didn't get. Kant did not do, understand the shadow in Jung's sense. That is this deep on subterranean movement that produces actions and thoughts that are really undesirable for the person and the species. Nature naturing is not good. It's not evil. It's prior to that distinction. It doesn't make sense to apply those predicates to Natura Naturans. The Plato part is very interesting. I haven't thought about that, but I admire Plato, mostly through Plotinus. Plotinus is extremely important because he has those mystical experiences of the one and that dictates his worldview. If you haven't had that experience, you can't really get inside Plotinus the way you can. That's good. So via Plotinus we're getting to the one and I was sort of waiting for that moment because so we've been very briefly discussing prior to this recording that we have similar views under different names. What I call Creolelectics and the cosmology of the Creole, supposes that there is at the core of the universe is this dynamic between the multiple and the one. It is actually two aspects of the same. But you can see that it's not really a dialectic because the multiple and the one are epistemologically and ontologically different in the sense that the multiple is indistinguishable from sort of a proto-matter, the matrix. If we use another Platonic, while the one is the logical aspect of it, right? It's the fact that, well, if you have a pure multiplicity, pure difference, it doesn't admit an exterior. Therefore, it's a whole. Therefore, there is a shadow of the multiple is the one. And perhaps we could say vice versa. I'm not sure. I like that. Yeah. So what would you say actually, should we say that in fact there are two shadows in dynamic, you know, vibrancy that generates these unequilibriums or disequilibriums, therefore, there for a phenomena. So a shadow at the bottom, which would be the matrix of things. Maybe the great mother archetype you could put in and the shadow at the top, so to speak, because you can't visualize this stuff. That's very interesting. That would, that would require some pretty careful reflection and experience to do that. Now a dialectic, if you're not haggle, doesn't have to go anywhere. I believe in cycles, not any linear history doesn't seem to change much. It just reiterates and reiterates and reiterates. Which is why I'm a little friendly to reincarnation as a theory in spite of the social injustices that theory has produced in India and elsewhere. So dialectic. I think determinate negation is in there and haggle sense. But I don't think there's a more and determinate negation within the shape of consciousness. There's gestalt and they self boost sign, the shapes of self conscious, the dialectic can almost be like a fractal. And branch in different ways. It's not own flip elevate. It's, it's, it's radiating out and doing all kinds of things, which may not be mappable by us. That is a mental structure of the one and the matrix. And what's in between the between zone, which is where we live. We don't often get to the great mother rate matrix, or to the, the one now the word one may not be the best word for that should be nothingness void. Well that's interesting because I, I, I don't like the term. There's nothingness and boy at very many friends who would take it seriously and, and we know it's your philosophy, both Western and Eastern right with Buddhist evacuity and I prefer as you know to call it Creel so the real with a C, which I mean, if Lacan, I think Lacan would have gotten it more right if he had called it Creel than rather than real, just for history of science and history of knowledge purposes. It's very delicate to, to, to call something real out of the physical list. I mean, the, the scientist discourse, but therefore if we call it, if we call it a Creel this this sort of multiple one. Janus face. We might be tempted and the reason I mentioned that is that you, you write that you have your writing or you've already written a book called minds Travay, which is an attempt to unite Darwin with in the Hindu metaphysics. And I have been thinking rather superficially yet about the correspondence between what I'm calling Creolectics and, and actually taking Darwin's ontology more seriously so is it what you're doing in a book. Yeah. It's combining Darwin with the Upanishads or from the Advaita Vedanta non dual perspective. And I like Swami Nikala Nanda's translation of the upon a shot which has Shankar's commentary in there as well. Reminding those two has proven to be extremely difficult I keep pushing on this project of minds to avail, but then I have to be pushed back, because of the difficulties of those issues how do you get finite emergent instrumental adaptability adapting consciousness. In a sense that such it ananda that you have being consciousness and bliss, as some point in the human process and I call that involution, which is not meant to contradict Darwin which would be a fool's journey. The involution is where the mind is grasped by Brahman or nature nature and it's very tricky terrain for me. Yaspers is a midpoint for me. And I served as president of the Carl Yaspers Society of North America for a couple of years and I really admire him I had been a high degree guy in my youth. But the demons came out of that I'm so okay I gave I actually gave my height of the books away to a graduate student. I had enough. I understand that. Yaspers was a moral person a good person, and just decent on all counts that I know of. And what he talks about is this evolution from the empirical to consciousness as such, or consciousness in general is the earlier translation to spirit to the encompassing or transcendence he sometimes puts in there. Consciousness in general is our attempts through logic reason experience and tradition to elevate our perspectives beyond projection, rage, manic bliss, and all these other things we pray to, to get a sense, perhaps for logically and jurisprudently to get a universal out of this that all human beings can affirm. Now the problem is that has to be very thin as to what general consciousness is it can't have a lot of boisterous content clashing. And then so we can do that we do that on a rare occasion. And then the Hindu perspective, and there are so many of them but Advaita Vedanta shows you that whatever the self is. It's immersed in both general consciousness and something beyond as a spatial term screw up philosophy bad but we need them, which would be the manifestations and the bliss of Brahman or the divine. You could use the word God but that word is so embedded in violence is the word God. It's a weapon word, right. Since the beginning and I'm thinking about this text from la camp called count with Saudi, Marquis the Saudi, who who wrote famously, you know, France is still an effort to be revolutionary that the French revolutionaries in the 18th century were not really radical. Because if they were radical they wouldn't stand that nature is as you were saying pre moral a more and therefore that it is it includes what would be perceived from a local perspective as cruelty. Right. Yeah. No that that's it that's a perspective. I mean I'm not here advocating in any way cruelty. I would I think kindness is underestimated but now if we map in the unconscious and Darwin in there, and even the self which we could say well the self is is is produced by the one mess polarity of the universe. And so we have this creel multiplicity that is infinitely dense energetical powerful in longing for manifestation, such that, and with the shadow of the one right with it which is it's it's inner duality. It's constantly branching just to limit its own power. So you have this branching, which for me it's very much the branching of evolutionary. Right, but in seen from another perspective, seen as a sort of a self limitation of overabundance. And, and so if you transpose that in the my crocosm of the individual. Isn't it what we need to do constantly right we have this. If we use the psychoanalytic language right this immature desire for for totality for for grasping. So randomly and chaotically whatever we can grasp. And then, thankfully, we can incorporate a faithfulness to some oneness, which can be called purpose, which can be called the self which can be called the value. And this is what philosophical health is saying via the creolectics methodology so if you have a creole then if you want to be able to sort of, you have this metaphor in your book of writing the horse.  And, and I think that's you write that that's what jaspers is saying but that's I think what a lot of that's what you're saying, in a way that's what also Friday same perhaps less excitingly or less creatively with more sort of moralism in him. So it sounds to me. And, and again I'm saying this a bit confusingly but it sounds to me that there is a unity behind all these discourses. There is. You need depth psychology but also object relations psychology in terms of the feet phenomenal field you're embedded in and how that works, but you can use to argue that individuation is a task. It's a travail I would say, and it's your wrestling with powers greater than yourself, and you often don't know that. And so shaping that into a, I would call it a living Gestalt is a morally strenuous activity. Because we are pulled by the objects or the orders in nature nature in so many ways that shaping the self is very difficult. And we have the province certainly in our in America of extreme narcissism. We're very narcissistic culture. And it's not global I think I think we are on that. Yes, yeah. So that narcissism. I like your word that it's trying to create a false totality around the imperial cell. And here I like Yostra's notion of shipwreck or foundering, where that bloated shell of self worship can crack.  Yeah, so it's the quest for the talent. I'm thinking of Levin us here to has this real danger. Right. But this is so interesting. I need to interrupt you because otherwise, there is so much there to unfold. And I won't be able to grasp. And I'm not able to grasp all the fruits but I see to here. We're going to leave the second for later it's it I want to speak about the person through Levin us. The first one is that you talked about the travail of let's say of self curation or self edification and use the term moral but you previously talked about creation and the artist and there's another French word which is over. Why not talk about over rather than Travay. More niche in right, I would say. Right. So the, you're creating a structure, an emotional field, a framework within which these pulsations from below, again a spatial term are shaped and contain. And that's the hardest human task was impulses rule the world. And those impulses are kind of like a bad infinite. They just keep going. And they don't go anywhere. And anywhere important except maybe leads to a misery. Yeah. Right. Right. So the artists in a way as always proposed a model for that. And God knows artists have impulses and actually need impulse. So I tend to say that they are throwing each work of art is a message in a bottle like in the in the song and they say they send SOS. But SOS as a an acronym for system over and style. So through through the ideal of style, which can be very painful to attain the artist is sort of creating an analogy I believe with with what a philosophically healthy person might try to do is some sort of coherence, right. And that style can only manifest in a nerve or so. That's sort of the functions, I would say as a protection against narcissism because you need to show in the world that unity you can just not fantasize it right. And ideally that idea, ideally, ideally and dangerously that might lead at least in the horizon to a system. And by that I mean that it can. And that's perhaps the limit of art. And that is bad art is that at one point you need to start theorizing you need to start transposing the aesthetic into the the epistemological right so SOS that we are. I mean when we healthy we're constantly sending the SOS to the others into ourselves right. That's what philosophical health is trying to do to sort of in dialogue like we're doing today. Yeah, give some some parents of shape or point to some co-creation of worlds and I'll finish on that. This this moment is intervention by saying that I think that philosophy since Plato with sometimes bad answers I mean the Republic at some moments it sounds like it sounds worse than then Stalin and Hitler put together but nevertheless it philosophy is this almost mutation of the mind that says wait a minute, we can have paradise on earth, not in the afterlife and and let's build it together as a world. Now philosophy is very hard to do because it goes against all of our impulses, which can be narcissistic thinking generically is a struggle. But I think, and you would strongly agree with this philosophy has a great healing function. And I have this weird theory that a lot of philosophers don't do psychoanalysis, because they want a cleaner universe where they don't have to pay attention to what's going on below. So it's like a chess game for some, whereas it should be a modeling for others and yourself and your family and whatnot of what a transfigured person will look like, who adds novel creative products to the cultural world. Even if it's in action and not writing, you can go through dance painting and so on music. But it's, it's attempt to heal yourself, which is the hard part and then make that as a template or model for all of us. It's kind of ambition, but here I think Socrates Trump's play though, whatever we know. Socrates is through play though, but is not building an empire. Play though was. What is the truth in what you just said, which could be rephrased in the following manner is that it's already healing to start speculating without having all the answers, which is what it's about right. It's when you enter that when you practice that it's it's like a natural drug, I think and it actually I think we can show probably and, and I think there's, there is quite a lot of emerging quantitative science about the effects of purpose in life. And just the fact of thinking about universals and manipulating concepts in your mind. It's probably for the for the chemistry of the brain, although I don't like to do this kind of. So, so and indeed so play to being more systematic and propositional, sometimes fails to a knowledge that is easy, it is enough to be on the way towards knowledge, rather than to be already there, right. That's why I prefer to use the term sense making when I speak of philosophical health rather than me making because we want to avoid fetishizing meaning, which is sometimes been made. Yeah. And so which leads us to the second point that I left in the air a few minutes ago which is the person. So, this is interesting because I think that's what you spoke about Levin as and the face I think the face of the other in front of you I think that represents his person would or her person would and that being a term that cannot never be pinpointed defined very clear and it's a blurry space, which leads me to a provocative question I don't probably not provocative for you but for our listeners in our times and that since you're a Jungian part or at least partly and since we're talking about personhood. It seems to me unavoidable to speak about the difference between woman and man here. See what I'm getting at. So they seem to be more attentive to the person within the other cultural training. It doesn't matter. Well man seem to be more focused to towards the function of the entity in front of you. And therefore if you are a functionalist, you might actually sometimes consider some humans at the same level than this glass for example. Yes. I think that happens in warfare. Well, I think one of the interesting questions is with gender is the role of empathy. Schopenhauer saw empathy. It's a phase transition it's an ontological event empathy it's not. Oh I see your head or I see your heart or feel it. It's more a process of stripping away the shells between individuals so that there's a not fusion in the borderline personality sense, but a deep connection that has being to use that ultra slippery word. And if women are more empathic. That can be an extremely important moment in social political life that we're not getting. Now I don't want to speculate about male energy female energy that's endlessly complex is not lots of different positions on it. But I think I just look at my childhood male energy was always competitive to create the challenge to beat out people and to be the best. And that can produce a lot of misery for a lot of people. That's what you do. Right. Which can be found today both in men and women by the way. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. And I think Freud's right that we have creative energies but there is a death drive. It's not instinct in German. It's a drive. And when I look at war. And when I look at human being self destructive powers which are amazing. I think there is something like a death drive. I was very resistant to accepting that. I think he's right. Right. Go ahead. Sorry. Here, perhaps we should be a bit. There's also ecstatic naturalists or creolectricians or. And say, well, death is a perspective right. That's our thumb thing is the reverse of something else. So, in fact, that doesn't exist per se. We have an ontology of becoming. So the problem in calling it death drive is that we've, we might fall into white head. I know you read or white had to call simply a fallacy of misplaced concreteness. Right. So, I mean, that's against me sound like I'm justifying cruelty, but I'm trying to be a moral here and say that there will be always a perspective from which. Anything that you do is cruel. There could also be a perspective from whichever anything that you do is just a, the ecstasy of becoming. Right. And I wanted to come go back to the term ecstasy which is in, in the very center of your let's call it quasi system which is a compliment. So, and we completely agree on this, I think, without knowing each other, we were writing the same things. I think that the real the real is the ecstasy of the creole. And so, by taking the etymology of ecstasy is exteriorization, right. Yeah. So, who are we to, I mean you said yourself, good and evil come after who are we to decide what is ontologically bad or that's a very difficult question and I know that Plato thinks that the good is, is what we all pursuing. But is it is, is the, is the, the creole source is ecstasy nature pursuing the good, or is it just exploding in all directions and containing in itself the negation of that explosion, which creates this constant. You know, branching, which is an attempt, we see it as branching, but it's an attempt towards unification that never really happens. Unification and multiple and expansion or difference. They are amoral. If you take that ontology. So, we, having said that, if, since we are living in the world we want to create some sort of order therefore we want to create some sort of morality, perhaps. How do we, how do we combine both, how do we combine a amoral ontology with a moral politics. Yeah, I agree with purse that aesthetics grounds ethics and ethics grounds logic. The aesthetic is after the sumum bonum or the ultimate good, but there is no ultimate good on this earth for sure, and maybe even after if we do survive bodily death and so on. It's an aesthetic project to balance what we're inclined to call good versus evil. For often good reasons. And it's a shaping toward a whole that remains fragmentary and embedded in the many. And one of the best accounts of the one in the many is in William James is pluralistic universe, where there are many many's and many ones, and you don't have to choose. Both operating ontologically, and I admire his, his way of coming through psychology into philosophy from the principles of psychology to his later writings. And by way that's that's going to be hard for a philosopher to accept right that there are many ones. The multiples. Okay, I like a girl as the French say, we could perhaps let it pass, but many ones that anti philosophical. One's are also subject to entropy and change. And if you don't grasp the ubiquity of entropy you don't see what's surrounding us and within us. Entropy is overcome by theft.  I can't get through the day without stealing energy from living systems.  So I don't. But I will and then the worms will get me so pay back. So it's a nature is really a brutal business. What is it's enjoying itself. Lacan said that if God exists, then he is really sauce as you as you know right so resource being that French term. I'm saying that for the for the listeners. So some might know that a it's sort of extreme enjoyment. It is used in sexuality. Yes, as orgasm, but so if we see nature as as in that ecstasy as a is a process. We might assume that this is a form of resistance and that's that's again that's not considering necessarily how does it feel for the localities right you I so wouldn't a form of divine attainment of knowledge be one that fuses with the fact that this ecstasy is enjoyment and if and if I'm about to die in the next minute. That's still part of the enjoyment. I agree thoroughly with that it's a good corrective to an over emphasis on entropy, because we saw is in nature not just the human psyche. When you blast through the name of the father and get into proper use of the symbolic and so on. There is joy everywhere as well. I've been to India three times and I've seen horrors and I've seen an expression of resource that's almost unmatched in the world. And it's there. And I think we, we seek it. And we get it. Yeah, you're right. And that leaves the silence because we would like it to be distributed locally such that there are no local perspectives that say, I am suffering. I'm lonely. I've been betrayed, etc, which is a a factor of human experience, whether it's an illusion or not, is it is something. I mean, even if it's an illusion, it's, it's a problem, even a philosophical problem, right, the famous problem of evil for theology, which leads me to, I also said that I was leaving the world, the word Theosis in suspense. I want to come back to that. Because I mean, when you speak of jaspers, and I agree with you that is even philosophically I think he is underestimated compared to Heidegger. And but I think things are changing. Some people are starting to reconsider him, even in, in fields that are unexpected, unexpected like AI, and where the cypher can be compared to what is happening in the black box of machine learning and etc. But I'm back to the idea of Theosis. Okay, so we know, and again, this is for the listener that there is a Orthodox tradition in Christology that takes seriously the fact that we in this life, we can become godlike. Theosis. Right, Theosis. And, and so this is a sort of a through its spiritual process of purification, both behavioral and an epistemological. But I was wondering here, if that Theosis is not a, a sort of answer to the problem of evil. And I'll give a very simple example to illustrate that, which is gandhi's non violence. I think gandhi's non violence is a very interesting moment in history were, you see, you see what I mean right where the, the, the problem of evil is, is, is countered by an embodied epistemology of Theosis which is, you know, I disregard the illusion of suffering by submitting myself to it in way that is without resistance. I do it. I don't do it by adhering to some sort of to some sort of nihilism that would say, you know, everything, whatever happens, it's, it's enjoyment. I'm doing it in a way that recognizes that the multiple and difference need the one. And therefore, that there might be a horizon, even if we never reach it, where you some sort of unification is desirable. And therefore in the political sphere and domain. It is not ontologically, ontologically false to claim, well, union is possible, whether it's union of India union of today of the earth, right around the shared cosmology. So, I do think in the ontology that we are proposing if we accept that there is not only multiplicity and difference in this nature and utterance but just by the fact to speak your language. If we say nature, we are supposing a unity, we're not saying that they're three natures. They're there for the politics are there. There is actually a book called the politics of the one with several texts were the question of the one and the many is taking seriously for contemporary politics. And I think that the English on that point to give a very schematic and simplified a explanation of the last 3000 years, ontologically speaking is that we have been under the region under the regime of the one. We have an American revolution with the king, the church monotheism, at least in the Western world. And then we sort of shifted dialectically to, or creole, electrically to its opposite to a discourse of the many right the democratic discourse of pluralism. Which I think as a 10 and now we're going to be able to talk about the US right or the US that we all became in a way, maybe Russia and China that will talk about that to me but so I think this, this moment of multiplicity as reached is the definition of contradiction is that I don't believe in, like Shant al-Mufin agonistic pluralism I don't believe that you can have all these communities and just let them fight for for their own little totem or absolute and anyway, some sort of order will emerge of their fight, and by the way it presents itself as a leftist discourse but is actually a reactivation of Adam Smith's invisible hand applied to to communities so when we read a bit of Lacan even psychoanalysis, we know that there's no such thing as the good community all communities are imperialists. So, knowing that we're going to stop, you know, giving candies to the good communities and, and blaming the bad communities for being fascist. They are all fascist. And the problem is that they, if there is only the attempt or the belief that we will let the micro is pre the core inter shark each other and that's going to create some sort of pluralistic order without a shared cosmology I think this is totally wrong and this is what I have now. And now, thankfully the earth is calling us to a cup and saying no we need to return to some form of oneness by negating the plural moment. Okay, so it's oneness in otherness oneness in diversity oneness in multiplicity. Oneness needs to come back in the equation. And what I would suggest here is that, and there is actually a proposal on that, you know, very often you probably know that we come up with an idea then we do a little bit of search and realize that someone already had it. And that's fine. I was playing with the term ecotheosis, ecotheosis the other day. So, so a theosis that would be not just individualistic right the I'm God like and, and I despise all the, the ape humans. No, it's, it's like a collective. Including non humans. So, and I realized that Roland favor from Claremont University I don't know if he moved but he has this chapter called ecotheology ecoprocess and ecotheosis, James to to go in the same direction so I'll stop here very long winded digression but you can pick any element that you wish to bounce and and and perhaps let me know if this answers in in a in a way that seems satisfactory to your concern it seems to be concerned about suffering and violence and I find your perspective very congenial to me. I think I'm a little nervous about any chiliology after Darwin but humans have tell away they have goals. And seeking the one through a common cosmology can be a powerful creative healing urge in our species. So I would be very happy with that as a theory and hopefully a fact because communities I talk about community natural communities and communities of interpreters and natural communities are fascist. They operate through the fewer principle their signs and symbols are locked in there's all kinds of censorship and control mechanism within that ubiquitous not those natural communities that we all inhabit. There is a moment where as Josiah Royce talks about it community of interpreters can emerge and he talked about in terms of spirit the spirit interpreter bouncing off St. Paul a bit, but the spirit pulls you toward a much more pluralistic use of science and symbols and power structures and has a critique in Foucault sense built in to undermine, at least on a micro level some of these demonic structures of power. So, but the quest for the one. If it's not filled with very specific tribal content. My tribe. If it's not wallowing in that or trapped in that. Then the emergence of a real engaged dialectic with other horizons of meaning and shapes of self consciousness can happen. It's a fitful process it's not. We're done. That's not ever going to happen. Because of inertia and laziness and all kinds of things. So the one is there. There's no one one I would say unless it's in the tiniest sense. There's no cultural one this worldwide. Never happen. Do you want to explain to the listener a bit more about the. About platinus is one. The one in Plutinus has no treats. It doesn't create. It doesn't cause. It's not filled with a person hood or an emotional structure or intervening in history. It's the place of overflow. And the question is, does the one plan. To produce a world soul or actually news first mine. Or is it just an emergence. And if so why mine the way it's structured universal mine. Why does world soul come out and then my soul come out and then matter at the bottom of the list. Which proclas corrected. Come out. So the one isn't doing anything. Just there overflowing. So if you are trying to write to it, you don't get platinus. So that is, is what's the relationship between that one and the one. I'm making it as a sort of a very artificial connection here just to get you to talk about the US but you know we know that the motto of us is out of many one. So that oneness. The US. What is it now. It's, it's, it's a would be a could be a want to be. Not a fact. In fact, the whole system is geared toward turning people against each other.  I have to hate somebody to get through the day. Right. I'd like to suggest something that the American one is the virtual in, in, in the sense of the metaverse right in the sense of digital virtual is that. Yeah, they. And that's probably because of their deeply ingrained. Catholicism or, or, or christianism right the idea that paradise is not on earth. I mean we had a moment where we thought Americans were saying oh we're actually paradise you know is on earth it's us we're creating, but very quickly and very slowly. At least seems to me that they're more interested in artifacts and virtual images of paradise. The Hollywood, and now all the, the digital world, while I would argue that China and Russia are still very interested in embodied reality. And so and we might criticize and then say, and yes, I mean, of course, it's, it's fascist it's in the sense that it, it doesn't allow for much, I mean, it doesn't always allow for freedom of thought those are I don't want to enter into cliches about China because But, but still, I mean, we can criticize their passion for order, but we can also We can also acknowledge that they are still attached to the real to reality, not the real in the Lacanica but to simply reality. And the world as and paradise on earth with all the problems that it might suggest while America seems to have. I wrote a novel called paradise which is sort of a duplication on the earth a virtual duplication on the earth so when you do that is like you totally give up on on on reality and then you have this chaos. So which is falsely ordered in in the clone reality of the virtual be one explanation. Yeah, the one of the perennial human curses is apocalyptic is which some religions uses a weapon to control. apocalypticism is all over the place and certainly in America, partly because of millennial Protestantism and other forces. And apocalypticism is driving our economy. There's a panic purchasing say of gold and silver right now. And silver and coin shops, because of an apocalyptic apocalyptic sense that fiat currency is going to fail. But it's a bricks currency from the East Brazil India China Russia South Africa, and maybe Saudi Arabia that will compete with the dollar. So there we have a lot of what they call preppers that on YouTube about how to protect yourself for when the world collapses. And it's, it's shaping and distorting people's lives. But it seems to be an addiction. Right and embedded in the very form of capitalism that America is producing right now if you take Elon Musk is at the same time. Yeah, the AI and claiming that a lot AI is going to be the end of humanity this can be done in the same gesture by the same person so is that apocalyptic capitalism or Yeah, the AI scares growing, even among scientists and some politicians, but it would I think it'd be more like challenges to specific regions of human activity. I can't imagine AI could replace a good therapist for example, although that they're working on that. And science fiction, going back to as a mouse I robot has been wrestling with what's going to happen when they attain self consciousness and autonomy and make decisions that aren't programmed by us. So if you want to understand the future science fiction is often called speculative history. And there's a lot of work, very high level work being done in that genre that over to wrestle with so many of the implications of AI in our lives jobs will be lost. The stakes have come out of AI recently, and people have written about that it's been on YouTube. So, that's another apocalyptic word, and I think it's going to be more piecemeal challenges rather than an i robot rebellion to conquer our species and get rid of it. I mean that's an extreme apocalyptic scenario. But it's a mystery. What's going on inside of one of these things. Right. And so how do you articulate with it because you say there's nothing outside of nature so AI is nature. Everything is my thought is nature. Rocket your brother's nature tinkerbell is nature. And they're all real, but differently real. So they're different. What do you call it levels states of the real. And how does that relate to two states of consciousness. Levels of consciousness levels of the real. Is that what you're looking into. And because you did say that they were different. Everything is in nature but it differently. Yeah, yeah, it prevails differently. So you could say a Shakespearean character is real, but not as a physical space time unit. What is embodied by a physical space time unit is Shakespeare more real than his plays are his plays more real than his rotting body. Real can be a weapon word. My world is more real than yours. And I would say I very much appreciate the principle called ontological parody, whatever is and whatever way it is, is real. It's an ontological priority which was very strong in the Middle Ages and philosophy, but you have degrees of moving from potentiality to actuality to octopus purus and Aquinas pure actuality and with some Aristotle in there. But there aren't degrees. They're just modes or dimensions. My desire to eat some ice cream is no less real than World War two. But it's very differently real. In terms of effects. That sounds like a good title. I might use that for. I suggest that we perhaps pause here not not that we don't have much more to say but I think maybe will. We'll do several episodes. I will, though, and with one question. If this were and I mean you're still young and I'm sure we can have this conversation for another decade or two. But if this were your last question, last question of your last interview, what would you like me to ask you. The relationship between nature, nature and nature nature, symmetrical or asymmetrical. That's a puzzle. So, nature, natureing affects nature nature does what happens in nature nature that is the orders of the world affects nature nature. I don't have an answer. But I think about it a lot. Great. That's a great speculative last point to to end on, you know, a lot of love to end his sessions on this moments of puzzlement because they, they facilitate the digestion of what was said, I think it's a great question. I'm going to think about it without brushing into an answer now. So, well, thank you very much. We will stop the recording here. Okay, great. Thank you so much.


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