Hey everyone shiver 1,000 here sorry about the lighting The Sun's just it's right over top ahead. It's about one o'clock We're out here at our little Creek Bank again or Channel or canal but every it's not a canal. It's like a channel So we're gonna do a little fishing today See if I can't Redeem myself for getting stomped on the other night for monkey So stick around. Let's see if we catch anything. Okay guys. I just got them both casted out Yeah, I had to pay $35 for my license my fishing license the other day because they expired and Monkeys expire I got a hit. Oh, we're gonna hit on both of them. Hang on. I'll tell you a story Well, it's not really a story All right, so anyway Good hit on the banana rod but See that thing that's $35 because we get okay, we get our Reef fishing permit. It's free to fish along the reefs and stuff But our freshwater fishing license is $16 and We're down here, Florida. So and we go over to Gulf Coast and we go down to Tampa and St. Pete and we we fished the coast down there So we have to have our freshwater license, which is another $16. Then they charge us $3 on top of that To do it online, which is weird because nobody's actually doing it. The computer does it. It's paperless So they they still charge us $3 for it plus tax. So it's $35 and 20 some cents or whatever For man to come out and fish now, what if a man's trying to feed his family, you know, this this is God's country This doesn't belong to the government. The government don't own anything Technically we don't either, you know, this this land's only here for us to borrow and You know for a man a poor man to try to feed his family if he goes out fishing He can't afford the license But if he wants to catch a fish to feed his family if he gets caught It's a very hefty fine that he can't afford to pay and that's more money that he's got to worry about coming out of his pocket Instead of going into his kid's mouth. It's ridiculous. I understand, you know Commercial fishermen and stuff like that if I was commercial fishing I get it, but I'm not I just like to go out and catch Some fish 90% of the time we throw them back anyway So it's not right that we have to pay To do something God said we can do freely It doesn't seem right, you know, I mean, it's like over in Crystal River They started charging everybody to use the boat ramp and I guess over the past year They've made over 300 and some thousand dollars for that boat ramp to go back to the park and you're getting less that we was there the other day and What the day for your Saturday we were there and And the grass wasn't mowed There used to be two benches down at the water at the water's edge They're gone and they're not going to get put back up The bathrooms are nasty. They're never cleaned. You never see anybody out there working on anything.  It's supposed to go back to the park. I Don't know guys. It's just You know, it really upsets me that they charge you To use our property to begin with this is our land, you know, this is ours to borrow Government it's not the government's land You know, I mean To charge a person to go catch a fish to go and they encourage you the DNR Encourage people take your kids out go have a great time, but make sure You pay all the fees to do that What is wrong? I mean, what is wrong with a man and a woman going out catching a fish or a man and Taking his kids out to go fishing, you know And and he has to have a license in order to help them fish really. I mean or he's considered fishing It's ridiculous. Some people can't afford that third. We can't afford it. I mean that pretty much Took the balance out of our bank account just so I could go fishing, you know My license expired at midnight But it didn't come up on my phone So if they would have stopped me, I wouldn't had proof that you know, that was my last day I hadn't till midnight. Well, I'm 59 p.m. So I mean it doesn't make sense and then you know because I have it on my phone Because if you go to Walmart by them, they give you that receipt you put it in your pocket It's faded out in three days. You can't read it So that's why I have the app and I got monkeys on there, too. So It's just ridiculous, man. I mean the stuff you have to pay for nowadays I mean, I know you've had to pay for licenses for a long long time But why? To do this, you know, well last monkey said well last all year I shouldn't have to pay it to begin with, you know, I shouldn't have to pay $35 to go fishing for the year, you know And some people only go out once or twice a year. It's not, you know, that's ridiculous And where we go over Crystal River, it's salt water and fresh water fish, okay? Because that's where it Intermingles the water.  All right, I'm getting a bite over here Let's see what happens. I'll kick you on in a minute See if we can get something to latch on to one of these lines here So I'm getting some bites. I just had a pretty good little pull on this one on the banana rod here But it dropped it. Usually that's what a catfish will do when they're hinting It was like tapping then it started to pull and when I got ready to Drive my pole it let loose But usually when they do that they'll come back and get it, but Yes, I mean That's not really rant.  It's called a land tax. Well The thing about that is as I was talking to a tax man one time About taxes on my business because he didn't like that. I was just charging cash I only took cash and not credit card not check because he Because he didn't like the idea of that Well, you can't just charge cash. You have to charge it and take other form.  He says you're not paying taxes on the house. You know the lumber the concrete You're not paying tax. You're paying tax on the land. I Said oh, so the government Even though you buy it the government still owns that land. He says well, no actually if you want to get technical nobody owns land you know It's it's it's God's country. It's you know, God's doing it. Nobody can actually own land. I said then how can The government tax something they don't even know And that's when he started getting smart alecky well, I'm not I'm not I'm not here to you know to debate with you I'm just saying I said no, I know what you're saying if the government says it. It's right no matter what and That's not right.  I don't have to pay tax on it every year. You know, we bought it. It's ours monkey paid 29,900 for her house the house we live in right now. She paid cash $100 bills for that house She saved up for 10 years and bought that house with cash plus tax And we still got pay tax on it every year But like he said, well, you're not paying tax on the house. You're paying tax on the land government don't own land They it's an entity. They can't own land Technically none of us can own land because when we die it's going to somebody else anyway, so it's only it's only ours to borrow really So how can the government tax us You know, it just doesn't make sense. There we go. We're getting pretty good hit now Banana rod here Well, it's a hot one today Of course wearing the sun There is a little bit of a breeze so that helps Got a hit on the black max. So we're getting some hits Again, I didn't bring my body cam because you know, it's just it's so hot So they're starting to hit. This water is really low It's usually up. It's probably Between 8 and 12 inches low Usually up higher than this, but that's okay.  We'll go fishing. Just say you wanted to go fishing. That was my way of saying I wanted to go fishing We didn't have anything planned today. No doctor's appointments. It's Monday.  So that's what we're doing guys So thanks for my little listening to my little rant. I just don't understand it, you know Yeah, after you're so old, you don't have to pay for license. I get it but Why do we have to pay for license anyways, we're not we're not commercial fishermen We just like to come out and do a little fishing doesn't make sense to me but Probably next year, I don't think I'm gonna pay for that because I think it's like a 55 60 dollar fine So, you know, I mean when I lived in Ohio, I didn't buy license for over 20 years and I thought, you know 55 60 dollar fine. I'm still ahead of the game at $16 every year Same here. I'm I'm just I probably won't buy him next year. I just don't believe in that You know, I just don't believe a man should have to pay that kind of money to go catch a fish and throw him back in It's ridiculous But anyway, there's something latch on latch is on to one of these I'll kick you back on Okay, guys, are you recording? I can't say anything. I got a hit over here on the black max it That's something on here Not fighting very much. So I think it might be a damn turtle Like I said, I don't know what you guys can see and what you can't I'm betting it's a turtle. It is wrapped up in a whole bunch of moss Maybe if I give him some slack, maybe sorry about the wind Maybe he'll get himself out of it. I don't know.  I wasn't thinking just threw my shoes on So I can only get down here so far. Got a hit on the banana rod here, too I don't think it's gonna work Can't reach it. I need to get him up here farther. He's got too much moss on him I can't see him, but I did get some moss off of here.  He's got all this moss on him. What do you need? I need help. Oh, you just came to check on me? Yeah. Thank you Oh my god. You hear him hissing? Yeah Yeah, he's mad. That's all the farther it goes. Look at that. Did we stop recording for me? Push that button on the back. Great.  It's good to like 200 some pounds. I think it's printed on here somewhere where I looked it up but That helps keep That stuff from happening But I mean, that's all right. That's it's only the fourth or fifth rod that I broke or lost Since I've started fishing down here in Florida, so which Tops all the fishing rods I broke or lost in a lifetime in Ohio All right, let me get baited up get casted out. I got to cast out the banana rod out again Hopefully no more turtles. Yeah, see that's not a casting rod It's just more of a trolling rod or deep sea rod that you take out and you just kind of drop it down beside your boat You know and let it sink but So I can't really cast it But it's better than nothing How you doing? Freakin turtle. Oh, I've seen the pole been over pretty good. I said he's got a nice size bass on there Oh, you broke it. Yeah No, I'm I'm gonna say he broke Yeah, it was just a just a turtle man I Can't believe that broke before this well that 17 pound test Yeah Yeah, YouTube Yeah, yeah Shea Bear 1000 you should check me out Shea Bear 1000 SHA BEAR 10000. All right. Yeah. Yeah, check it out. I'll be on there But yeah, that's a man every time I come here Every time You got a baby gator one day The biggest Yeah I got a 19 and Something pound turtle out of here. Yeah. Yeah, she caught I don't know 18 pound out of here I don't eat them. I just let them go because they're just so hard to clean, you know.  I don't need that turtle Yeah All right. Well, you have a good one. Yeah, you have a great week man. Be safe. That's pretty cool seco energy guy Stop You already see my pole man over wanted to see what I had a minute ago So yeah, that's pretty cool But yeah, I'm gonna try to get this thing things not casting right here But it's just a Zebco 33 not the newer one my my vintage 184 1984 Man, I think cast is so good That's one the fish stole from me. So I don't know how many I've lost four or five I've only lost one to that fish, but the other one's got broke because of fish or turtles so So yeah, if I get a turtle on this one, I'm not even gonna fight it because this thing There's no way With eight pound test in this this little rod here's gonna do anything But monkey wanted to get me one I think she won this planter game off a team who wanted to get me one That's collapsible for like when I do solos and stuff. I can put it in my pack. So it's great for that You know small fish paying fish bluegill stuff like that I wouldn't want to bring in a five pound fish with this this rod will just snap probably but Yeah, that's a I Could probably fix that. I probably will I got a bite. I probably will until I can Get another rod see that at $35 fishing license fee, you know, that could have bought me a decent rod, but you know whatever But anyway, we make do we're not going home Ben Ben our our Walmart Net up so and it's aluminum you try to straighten them. They'll break so But yeah, I'll show you this thing doesn't it's not a cast and it's so heavy But like I say, it's just for trawling or deep sea and so heavy and It's so short too, you know, it won't It doesn't it won't throw your bait out I'll show you it's just that one wasn't too bad All right I'm gonna go get a drink of pop Yes, I'm from Ohio that stuff's pop not soda. So oh well good enough for now. All right guys, whoa, I got a Got a bite on the banana rod.  They just pick it up and go with it, but oh well Bless her heart monkey come down. I thought maybe she had issues up there because I could have just let this go You know, I could just hit the release and it would have been fine, but she came down to help me As soon as I told her I see I hit the record button for me Because it was gonna be a little bit. I mean as soon as she did that snap That's her. Thanks for the help monkey. I appreciate it Because she knows it's hard for me to get down these banks So she came clear down here See if I needed help. Thanks, Monk. I appreciate it and thank you guys for watching. I appreciate it. All right I'm going to get a drink. I'm gonna recast this because I'm over I'm way over there by them lily pads and Turtles like to hang out over there. That's usually where I catch the gar and mudfish, but Also turtles Yeah from now on I used to you know, usually bring them out and wham, but that one was probably only about 15 pound 14 15 pound From the looks of him.   I'm real him to you quit backing out into the road. Well, don't it. Well you gonna do it, honey Okay, I understand but you have a real Shit, I've got the we go get the net. Oh Nice channel set him down there. Nice channel cat You got quit backing out into the road.  I'll go get him. I just want to show this. Oh, okay. I guess monkey's going after him Yeah, I caught a fish. Oh, no, I'll go get him cuz I got my broad on it. Okay. Good job, Monk We didn't weigh it. I'd say he was going on three-pound two and a half three-pound What I was gonna say was this rod here doesn't move you got to watch your line real closely So you got to have it kind of loose getting a Getting a bite on it. But what I did was I unlocked them Going up there to her that way Nothing can take my rods look like he was wanting to run with it. Let's see if he will She was back clear almost into the road He's trying to go under them weeds That explained to her if you got a dog on a 10-foot lead he's got more Chances to room To her if you got him on a short lead. I said think of it that way you got a real use it But he was trying to go under there. Yeah, but walking backwards to the road is not gonna You can quit hitting Check our bait That bait's still on there. So Nothing big. All right guys. I'll be back with you. I'm counting that turtle That's monkey seen him I seen him I'm counting that as a catch Monkeys got one fish. I got no fish one to none Did get a turtle however, so we're one to one. All right guys. I got one on here Oh, no, I think he I think he got me under a log or something. I do know there's a snag out there, but that was a fish too Well, you only got my hook That was a good fish, but I think there's a root or something down in there. I know there's a snag So, okay guys, I'm getting hit on this pole here. It's a Shakespeare so It's not like a real high dollar rod, but It's not cheap either I mean, it's decent.  I said no because then it won't count She said look I'll count it, but she said them turtles are You know, they're just too hard on you just cut the line I said it costs money every time I do that. She said it costs money every time you break a rod too, which is true So it's hard to tell When you got something on here because you know your poles not bending your rods not bending It's got to wait for it to pull. I want to check my bait cast back out again Yep, still on there Good thing about these chicken guzzards is they stay on pretty good You can't cast that was about almost as hard as I could cast that thing and I'm only 15 feet out from the bank Sorry, it's not so exciting, but that's getting ahead though. This one's not casting real well either Something's hitting on that though This one I got to check it every time Or the end will fly off of it That's pretty much out where I just had it. It's got a it's got a bite already, too Yeah, cuz she came down to get a water Ask her grab me a pop and she brought my pop over And I was baiting this one. That's when I when the hook broke off So it's just I got the hook back on just baiting it She said that rods moving. I said it is she said yeah, I said is it going out? She said yeah, it's going out and I was like I don't care She said you're tired aren't you? I said, yeah And then them turtles wear you out. Yeah, well Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm not supposed to lift more than five pounds anyway Can't sit at home wait to die either There's something hitting on this one here not taking it yet though So that's why I'm thinking it's smaller fish Usually if it's a pretty good size fish It'll hit maybe it'll hit once maybe twice and then it'll it'll just take it will swallow it and take it That's why I think when they're biting like that, they're not big enough to actually get the whole hook in their mouth I'm using a Number one circle hook so it's kind of Medium it's not small, but it's not big so and You know, I've got pretty good luck with them If I use a smaller hook, I'll be catching the little fish all day long. I don't want to do that I also think it's smaller because You know, it's not out very far It's in here where the smaller fish are I'm gonna try to recast this thing. I guess it was out. It was out there about 20 feet, I guess There's where I want to be. That's where the catfish and the gar Well turtles too, but Didn't cast this one. I want this one out towards the middle there I hope I don't get any too super huge on this one because there's no way This rod will bring it in It's a pound test. I could probably bring in a 12 pounder with it, but uh well, maybe a 10 pounder, but I Don't think the rod The rod will hold it. I don't think the rattle. I Don't think it can handle it Shoot all right monkey's got a fish. I hear saying oh, baby All right, I'm gonna listen. I didn't lock that one. Let's go see what monkeys got. No clothes though The blue gill That's blue gill All right, let me get him off there. All right, so Monkeys one up on me Damn it. That's good though. She got a fish. I didn't knock my chair over I had one drink out of that pop she brought me Lord, that's all right. I got another one. So Good job, Monk. How'd you hear that? Dear say thank you But no if I want to buy a tractor or something. She don't hear that.  Is it a turtle? Let it off a little bit Turtle yeah, you're soft down. Oh Good catch a turtle. I Had to keep up with you Look at that that soft shell isn't it? Oh, they're supposed to be good to eat aren't they? Just rest he's in there whoo what a friggin fight.  I be in the dang water and I don't know how he does it And he just did two today. So that's that's a lot for him. Yep It's all right. Don't move It's all right rest tomorrow, right now. I got stuff to do There you go Now I gotta get his hook out Okay, so she did good on that one. She stood right up the edge of the bank and kept control of it She said yeah, that was a lot easier because the farther out you go the more he can go left and right If you're right up on him, he's limited on how far he can go I had her line finally snapped when I was trying to pull his head out to get the hook out of him but That's okay. He got away with the hook, but that's all right. Don't rust out. Don't worry But uh He didn't swallow it. It was just there. So But um, I felt I was gonna have to do it any wavery rigor. So I got we saved her sinker and So I've just put another hook on I went ahead and re-rigged her because I could feel you can feel your line It's you know, it gets kind of kind of freed even though it's a mono filament It just you can feel it and so Yeah, I just went ahead I was gonna fix it for her anyway, so Yeah, I was getting some good bites here, too Well, no runners, but they were biting I still got my bait so I'm gonna recast mine out. There's the line for my other Think that's the line for my turtle. He might still be there. I don't know If he is I'll have to try to get him out of there. All right, I'm gonna recast these She's too up on me guys.  I had you guys sitting in the car cuz You know rain She said she found something. What'd you find? I can't reach it because my flip-flops Is it Minnow trap Remember where that is so don't drag across there. We'll leave it. I want to take somebody stuff Yeah, they're just trying to You know Get bait for their fishing day And I didn't notice it either. She's like there's a leader out here Yeah, that's somebody's Minnow trap, so Yeah, we won't mess with that somebody just trying to Trying to catch stuff for bait. I mean I wouldn't have left it there Unintended but if there would have been a fish on there, I would have took the fish for sure There wasn't so All right, I'm gonna hit on the banana rod here and Hang on a second guys. I lost my rag. Okay. I found it. I put this over you like when I'm When the camera's not rolling Keep the sun off of your if it's just sprinkling but it came a downpour so I had to put you guys in the car so Yeah, it's always like that. I Told monkey hang on a second. We got a Jeep coming Stop biting, but yeah, I told monkey So I told monkey From ever on a solo and I come up missing and here comes another one. I Said tell search and rescue just look for the black cloud. I'll be right underneath it So I'm gonna check my bait and recast I'm getting a hit On the roller rod here.   We'll see what she got.  Yeah, you want it? Throw him in. No, thank you. I got fishing my pop All right, it's number four for her one for me really Yeah, they had one that turtle Haven't caught nothing else. I Thought you caught something. No Oh That turtle No matter of principle now Yeah, that's what they've been doing my things moving I need to meet Rain's coming again, but I think it'll pass us so I'm gonna get you covered up See if I can catch one more. That's all I want one more. Okay guys, we're taking off So monkey got four items and I got one so she got a turtle Catfish a blue gill and a crappie. I Caught a turtle and broke a pole again All right, I'm gonna try to fix one up tonight. So I'll make that a video and Okay, I understand that but right now I can't so I got to fix what I've got so I'll bring you guys along with me on that I'll make a video on it That guy in that black truck. Yeah, that was the guy with the trap up there. Oh Yeah, he was talking to me. Well, I saw the label. I took a picture of it and brought it up He's the cabinet man. I Don't know but anyway anyway, I talked to a guy back there and Yeah, he said, yeah, he says I got a shinier trap up there. I said, yeah, we saw it So he usually fishes here or down at the dock where we give it to so All right Yep All right guys, we're done for today. Thanks for tagging along right mom Just reading off and on they're hitting but nothing big nothing, you know worth while so All right guys, we'll catch you in the next one shape every myth man legend ball for now a monk There it comes yeah, all right guys, we'll see you


Hey Virgo, welcome back to the channel. This is Kelly from House of Virgo. Please smash that like button and subscribe if you enjoy the reading. We're going to do your weekly predictions for this week coming up and we are going into Virgo season. So happy early birthday to some of you. All right, let's take a look and see what the messages are. Also there's a link in the description box for personal readings. There will be September discount readings coming up very soon. So definitely take advantage of that if you want to book in December. And yeah, anything else I will say at the end. So you're starting with coffee cup, the runner and cassette. Okay, so let's take a look here. So coffee cup, meeting and conversing, savoring the moment, feeling uplifted and friendship. So I definitely feel like there is an energy here for this week. You may be getting together with someone or meeting someone for coffee, spending a little time together, feeling uplifted. It feels like a friendship kind of thing, which is great. So as far as like your friends and your social activities and your social life, this is awesome. Having some coffee, maybe doing a little coffee grind readings or tea leave readings. But I definitely feel like you will be a little social this week. You know, especially if you've got a birthday coming up. You've also got the runner, runner in a codependent relationship, fear of intimacy, listening to ego. So there is also someone here who is running away.  Okay, so you might be on a loop this week, Virgo. Maybe obsessing a little or having some ruminating thoughts happening this week. Let's see, some of you also might be the runner where you're running away from someone or a relationship or trying to get away from a relationship. Alright, let's take a look and see what else is coming up for you for this week, Virgo. Virgo sun, moon, rising, our Venus. And if you are not a Virgo sun, you obviously can always get a reading from me here anyway. Let's see. Okay. So what's going on? Aida's swords. Yeah, mental struggle here. Not having clarity. Queen of swords in the reverse, Virgo. So this is struggling to get clarity. Definitely feeling a little bit insecure. Not being kind to yourself, Virgo. I feel like stop that. You're amazing, Virgo.  If somebody's running away from you in a relationship, they're really just running away from themselves or it's just something that, you know, maybe it's just time to let go and not really be too overly concerned about it. You know, don't take it personally.  You know, this is a part of self-sabotage, right? So if there's a lack of clarity or if your self-talk is negative, pay attention to that this week. Don't let yourself, like as soon as you hear or you recognize that maybe you're doing a little negative self-talk, just counteract that with a positive affirmation is what I hear here. Okay. And also, as far as dealing with other people, if you're not getting clarity about a situation in your life this week, do your best to refrain from punishing or criticizing others. Clarity will come to you. Okay? It will come. Don't, I'm hearing like, try not to put anyone in a corner as to why someone is running away from you or if you've got like the situation that's playing out again, like in a similar fashion this week with that cassette card. Just kind of counteract. Yeah. I feel like there's outdated thinking. Counteract that. Okay. You also have, so you've got the Page of Pentacles. So there's definitely going to be some communication coming in this week regarding maybe some new financial investments or some new ideas you might be communicating online or through email or filling out contact forms, trying to get some information on some financial, how much something's going to cost. Let's take a look here. I just want to see. Could be maybe trying to raise some money, talking to other people about that. There's definitely money news, some information coming in. Okay. Got the devil here. What are you getting yourself into this week, Virgo? Virgo, I don't even know. Virgo's like, how much is it going to cost for like a case of, I don't know, vodka because I really need it this week. Virgo's trying to find like all the deals. Virgo's like, let me cut my coupons. Let me try to like cut some corners here. All right. Let me see. You might be dealing with a Capricorn this week as well. You also could be Gemini Libre Aquarius, but let me see what's going on because that's major arcana. I need a clarifier on that, that devil card. Let me see. Some of you might be getting into some like, as far as like a job, you might be getting into something very taboo this week as well or having some discussions about doing some very taboo kind of work or getting into something that you wouldn't put on your resume. Okay. Hmm. Some of you might be like trying to find out just, it, this feels like a little bit on the health front, maybe the mental health front or just the health or your physical health, mental health, social, that kind of stuff. There might be something here to do with like, you know, trying to deal with some kind of an addiction, maybe seeing if insurance is going to pay it or getting some counseling or some therapy, perhaps something to do with co-dependency. You might be the one who's trying to run away from a relationship because you don't want to deal with some stuff you have going on. Maybe you have a little bit of co-dependency or you've been through something very traumatic. Maybe you have PTSD. You could this week definitely be doing a little bit of research kind of like, okay, well, you know, maybe I need to address a couple things here. Maybe I need to find out like get some blood work done, find out like how much stuff's going to cost or deal with some kind of an addiction or drinking or anything like that, maybe food or something along those lines. I'm hearing, let me say, yeah, this week feels like more so like, okay, I want to get this surgery or I need to get this thing done or I want to get something that deals with something that's just got to hold on me and I haven't dealt with it or I want to finally deal with it and what's this going to cost me and is insurance going to pay or do I have enough money? Also for some of you, this, yeah, like I said, getting involved in some kind of taboo kind of thing could be very sexual. So maybe somebody's going to go swing on a pole or something to make a little extra money. Let me see here. Some of you might start dealing. I don't know what you're doing. I hate that. But, you know, I know not all of you are most burgers are like in the healthcare industry. You could be actually working, taking a new job offer, they're saying and working in healthcare, taking a new job or new position, maybe there's also picking up like a pharmacy or pharmacist or something along those lines or working in healthcare with people with addictions or could be a new job or a new money opportunity coming to you this week. So pay attention to that. It could be a new field for you even. Okay, let me see what else is going on. Some of you also might be thinking about starting school in the fall or finishing out some degree in healthcare addictions, recovery, working as home healthcare, LPN, RN, whatever it might be, something along those lines. Alright, let me see what else is going on for you this week. A lot of different messages. So take away resonates. Okay, so you've got the lover. Oh no, why did I think that was the lovers? You've got this five of pentacles. Let me see. Okay, so a situation, a poverty type of a situation, or a feeling of abandonment or being left out in the cold, or struggling. I just want to show you look at all that snow. Okay, so I know you might summer. I know some of you don't have any snow where you are. But no matter what, even if you do, I feel like the sun, the sun will come out tomorrow. So that's so strange. So after the five of pentacles comes the six and that's an energy of generosity, sharing reciprocity. I feel like some things are going to something's going to start improving. Something's going to change a negative situation is going to get very positive for you. It could have something to do with the Leo. But I feel like if you're struggling financially, or if you are if you lost your job, or a relationship where you feel like you're abandoned or you're not in that relationship or whatever, something there's going to be huge change and success. This is like a yes card with the sun. So something's going to turn around in a lot of ways for you in regards to those situations that maybe your health if you feel like you are you have some illness or something, you're like, you know, the sun makes everything better vitamin D. If you have a lot of worries, whatever you're worried about, I'm telling you right now, at least by the end of the week, I feel like everything is going to be okay. Whatever you're worrying about, there's like joy that comes. This thing you're worrying about right now. I don't know exactly what it is going on in your life. If you have some concerns or kind of building up, are you not sure how you're going to make it to the next day or, you know, financially or just in regards to relationship or anything like that is going to get better. Like it's going to turn around it's going to improve this this situation. If you feel isolated, you won't be towards the end of the week, right? That's why the coffee cup was there because there might be some kind of like getting together having some conversation or meeting someone. There's an energy of coming out of isolation. I just want to get one more card for you Virgo for this week in regards to that. Okay, there's a king of pentacles.  That job, that bonus, that money coming to you. Everything is going to be okay financially. You'll come out of whatever you're in. You're going to be fine. If you have a relationship with someone who has Virgo Tars or Capricorn in their chart, that's going to improve by the end of the week, okay? I'm just hearing if you have a some kind of relationship with someone and there's a lack of clarity about that relationship. You're going to find out or hear from someone by the end of the week why this person maybe you thought they're running away or they have codependency issues or fear of intimacy. It looks like this person is just heavily inundated with their financial struggles. I want to say that, okay? Some of you I also want to say might also be loaning someone some money so that they can get some help with an addiction. Some of you might actually be loaning some money to someone for what they might say is one reason but it could actually be going towards their addiction. So I feel like I need to tell you that, okay? So be careful. Ask some questions.  You've given the money and then they run out and buy things that are not healthy for them. I don't mean like cupcakes and soda. More like, well it could be. I guess the message is just be careful of enabling someone. They could be very codependent and manipulating you for money, okay? Let me see here. I just want to get one more for this queen of swords because I'm just curious. Let me say one more. So I really feel like the queen of swords sitting here in the position of at least the coffee cup. You might be having a conversation with someone who's feeling like they're having some mental struggle this week or someone you could be meeting someone who is incarcerated this week going to see that person or communicating with them. I feel like it's more like meeting and conversing or making plans to do that. Some of you could just be watching crime shows and just drinking buckets of coffee and watching these crime shows. Okay. Let me see. Okay. Yeah. There is a conversation also with someone this week. Like I said, it could be an air sign. It doesn't have to be but this person is struggling. Seriously. They this person cannot move on from a past like they can't let go of something here. They're having a hard time completing a task or finishing living up to the contract is what I'm hearing. So whether that's like the sole contract or a business contract. Yeah. I kind of feel like it just feels like unfinished business and there's a lessons that haven't been learned. There's some delays or problems in regards to what this person is going through and I and it could be you. You could be talking to another person also meeting with someone this week about some kind of struggle or an issue that you're having or it could also be them. Right. And then there's just this conversation that happens where it's like that eight of swords and the world in reverse really gives me this feeling of someone who's like completely stuck doesn't know they can't see the way out of a very simple situation. They're complicating it or maybe you are. You know the antidote is really just it is what it is just crosses bridges when you get to them. Right. Don't try to overthink something here. Usually when you let goes when things come in and the answers come in. Let me just get one more for that because it is a major arcana. All right. Yeah. This is a whole lot of brainstorming happening over this coffee cup so you could be talking with someone it could be about a relationship. You could be talking with your person in regards to the relationship meeting up discussing the struggles in the relationship how we're going to do this should we keep investing.  Yeah. There's an element here of separation between you and another person. Gemini could be Taurus. We also have a fire sign here Aries Leo Sagittarius. Queen of Cups on the bottom. That's Cancer Scorpio Pisces. Oh okay. They're really giving me a message here. After heartbreak someone decides to try to reconcile and commit to a relationship but there's a decision that needs to be discussed about yeah we're going to do this or not are we going to invest in this thing or not and it could be the relationship it could be a business contract making new plans to do something go forward commit you know the the Hierophant can be about institutions corporations can be about the institution of marriage the lovers in reverse you know there's some kind of separation here with another person and there is like you know either it's business or a lover it's like okay is do we are we signing off in this contract there's discussions like this is like we need to sit down and talk right we need to have this conversation and you might have somebody who doesn't want to talk about it runs away and you might get a little bit with the queen of swords there kind of nasty nasty like are upset or a little I don't know if it's assertive or aggressive but yeah I just kind of feel like no matter what I feel like the situation is actually going to resolve the way it's meant to resolve and I don't feel like you're really going to have to put too much effort to try to do anything or to persuade anyone to see something your way um I feel like there's just these not to ask just to have a conversation about you know okay what's the next step should we should we continue this should we continue the lease should we continue the contract should we continue the relationship this investment that's been made should we add more should we just separate and go our separate ways okay so there's definitely a conversation no matter what though Virgo I feel like everything is going to be okay no matter what happens it's going to work out because you know it's like what we say you know what's meant for you will be for you and what isn't um won't be and you won't have to worry about it okay very soon yeah clearly decide what you want so it comes to you now so it's definitely a week for a decision to be made okay let me see what else you have pay attention to red flags part of that decision has something to do with red flags okay Virgo some of you might be just finding out you know hmm maybe I don't want to continue this contract or maybe I'm going to let something dissolve or maybe not reconciliation there's definitely going to be a conversation about some red flags and whether or not to reconcile with someone and it's going to happen between two people it's not just I don't feel like it's just going to be you having the conversation with yourself I feel like it's going there's going to be a little bit of back and forth but I do feel like someone might try to run away from dealing with the responsibility or being accountable and of course you know Virgo hold somebody to it call somebody out on their bs okay so showing up here with financial loss which we kind of felt like that was happening here but as you could see the sun some of you you know the sun that's fire that can represent passion new passionate start some of you figure out this week how to recoup your finances if you've had some kind of loss or you feel like some of you start this new business or you start something pat like something that just tugs at your heartstrings that you know people will want and something that you know you can make a living out of or money it could be a hobby or that you can make money from it could be a hobby you know it could be something a hobby that you turn into business you know that's kind of what I feel but you definitely if some of you have lost your job something comes to you this week about excuse me going out on the the limb out on the wire and really like putting some plans into place here and starting something brand new maybe working for yourselves even if you're not working okay so there's definitely a new passion that start happening okay and you've got standard ground so this is just an energy of like protect what's yours don't quit keep going after it okay you also have someone spying this week online at you someone is spying on you online so you know that just means they're on the computer looking you up okay somebody has regret that's why they're spying they're they're there's regret someone has remorse they feel a loss um and they're looking at you or they're checking up on you to see how things are going in your life this week they're gonna be looking and what's going on in your life okay I also have putting in effort this person's really gonna be spying heavily on you this week Virgo okay hmm this could have something to do with this relationship as well I feel like um there's two people here are not two people who are not so sure about each other okay so two people have decided about each other okay and um looks like you're going to be waiting for an answer to hear back from somebody this person is not sure if they want to text you back or not or if they can um they might be trying to figure out what to say or whether they will or not okay so I see this week you're kind of at least starting off the week you might be waiting if you're waiting get out of the waiting room go take a walk around the block until your number is called okay go get busy don't just sit there and twiddle your thumbs all right now you have the justice card this is good things are going to work out for you Virgo this week looks good it kind of looks like you start off a little if I had to give it like an average I had to give it a score for the week I would have to say this is probably an 8.5 to a 9 kind of week for you nothing you know a little bit of struggle we're still going through the mercury retrograde and august 23rd starts I believe the mercury retrograde which you know we're in the pre-shadow phase already if anyone but he was here on my live stream yesterday for the q&a man I couldn't get my camera to work it was popping off it was dropping it was crazy nothing was working so I feel like this week coming up you're going to have a little bit of fits and starts that kind of stuff but the I feel like they'll be very minor and I feel like at the end of the week things will just actually improve towards the end of the week things will actually improve there there will be this energy of feeling positive feeling like oh everything's okay it's a sense of like you know how the warmth the sun warms you and you feel cold it's that that reassurance it's that I don't know good vibes it's just a good vibration I get the song I don't feel like singing today you guys I'm sorry I'm gonna have to sing tomorrow for you but yeah I'm gonna leave that there I just wanted to do this short quick because I'm gonna upload this now right when you get this it's probably gonna jack up my algorithm but whatever I couldn't get here yesterday later this evening you are going to get your who's coming towards you reading at the usual time 10 30 eastern 10 30 p.m and also if you are a member or on my only 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Tommy here from Orange Systems, and we're gonna talk about a popular topic. I say popular, but it's really someone asking in YouTube comments So persistently they wore me down and had me do a video on it But I think there's some real reasons I should cover this it is the open sense versus PF sense debate It comes up a lot specifically as I said on YouTube occasionally on Twitter And of course there's two places on Reddit one for PF sense one for open sense And I think there's some ping-ponging back and forth between the homelab people of who makes the best firewall and why their Answer is the best now I'm gonna weigh in on this and I will at least let people know is if you didn't already that we are a long-time user of PF sense and don't plan on right now here in May of 2021 changing that I bring that up because Time matters when it comes to context of what I know we like a product. There's products I don't like from the past But I'd like them then and right now. I still like PF sense. That's still my position on things We still plan to keep deploying and using it But that's right now if you catch me 10 years from now because he's thing changed. Hey, why not? This is why we have dates on videos and this is the experience in May of 2021 before we dive into this and all the details which will of course be linked down below So you can just skip ahead to the time index that interest you the most if that's what you'd like to do Let's talk about the sponsor of today's Video me if you like to learn more about me or my company head over to Lawrence systems calm I like to hire short projectors a hires button right at the top If you like to support this channel in other ways There's affiliate links down below the get you deals and discounts on products and services We talk about and other ways to connect with us except you won't find an affiliate link to neckate or PF sense We're not a reseller We're also not a reseller of open sense But that was probably obvious by anyone who's followed this channel for any length of time because we don't really do open sense videos But not being a reseller is one of our ways we've always kept a separation and this wasn't lucrative for us to become a reseller matter of fact by Telling people and this is frequently for a lot of the products that are not channel partner We tell people go ahead and buy the product directly from you know XYZ company or in this case if you want to buy a neckate appliance and our Task is frequently to integrate not just the PSN's firewall or do consulting with it But usually an overall network stack It's a lot of what we do is build and engineer these things for companies for internal IT teams and even for small businesses Or even people building different, you know labs and things like that We offer a range of consulting services and PF sense has been one of the things that we consult on But we have done consulting on open sense as well, but not being a reseller I just want to be up front so this is not paid for endorsed by either those companies I sponsored this video and the video is my own thoughts now the first thing we'll talk about though is the common ancestor of PF sense and open sense, which is monowall In the early days in the before times and the earliest times of technology as it feels because it was so many years ago now It's been in technology iterates fast. There was a move towards some of these Different types of open source firewalls or just basically completely softer to find firewalls using old hardware There's actually a lot of competitors in the early market for this in the 2000s and maybe one day I'll dive into the history of all them because it might be really fun But monowall was among those and monowall was a really cool project based on BST Versus a lot of the other ones at the time were based on Linux There's some cool features that BSD had ahead of Linux back then for large scalable systems So you've seen a lot of enterprise use of this because it could do things the other systems couldn't and it could do it without some of the you know hardware and Licensing that came with some of the enterprise offerings of that time swing it all the way now most firewalls are more Software-defined than they are hardware-defined But not to get too off-topic on that but it's it's changed a lot in the market over the last 20 years But monowall is defunct PF sense was the fork of that code that took over the project to carry it on then Comes open sense who like all things in open source when a group of developers can't agree on something fork it Man just fork it and this is what happened in 2014 I think the first original release was 2015. So there's obviously some Arguing that went back and forth. This is how these go. I'm not going to dive into it But I'm sure there's forum plus people can watch and developers argue and have different opinions But the fork why did they fork? Let's read their words right here from the open sense page Which is back in 2014 after having sponsored PF sense for years. We felt there was no other Option than to fork the project to keep the spirit of the original monowall based fork alive Blow you can read about the original motivations and the birth of open sense So they you know cover this here one of the reasons though that is kind of funny And these are some of the arguments and they there is some validity to this of saying Hey, the GUI should not perform tasks that require root access and that's something they were going to fix So this is back in like 2015 But here we are and I have both of these open sense We'll get to the interfaces shortly here But I have both open sense and pf sense virtualized so we can talk about this But right here is logged into open sense and everything's still running as root You can go through their code commits and read They say it's because they brought over so much legacy code It's one of those things like I get the goal like hey We want to separate things and do things differently But it ended up that they still haven't really changed over from that seven years later And I just want to bring this up because this is where the comments Come in when I do a pf sense video, but I want to readjust it. It's not that they are More or less secure They're much the same because they're still running things the way pf sense did the way pf sense still does now And that's just because it's really difficult to write it in a different manner The other thing we want to talk about is their choice of hardened bsd versus your standard free bsd This is another talking point that people think make open sense substantially different than pf sense And while they're still based on it right now They are parting ways and moving away from it as of april of 2021 But I wanted to bring this up because there are differences and It's not a bad thing that they were using that but it just comes down to implementation This is where it gets a little bit more nuanced both projects are secure Both projects have good track history of security So whether they implemented it as pf sense has done with standard bsd and then Ply their own compilation tweaks to it and you know fine-tune things or you start with the patches from hardened bsd They are different approaches, but they both have achieved in both products. I can't name any Major security breaches now. There's always security fixes and a lot of security fixes came from the underlying tools and open source things That they integrated in there, you know, for example, there was a problem with unbound at one point in time And both projects were using it But the way it was compiled means it was not something that was immediately exposed or A default config that could have been a problem Matter of fact, I believe it was the way it handles some of the dns That goes a while ago But this is just an example But both projects because they are based on a lot of the same bsd packages that type of security problems still occurred But both of them because of the mitigations they have Didn't really have any problems directly from it So this is where there's a little bit of nuance and you know, it's a bold statement But it actually in reality as long as you're implementing it properly and writing secure code is hard As long as you're doing that all properly. Yes, it should work great Now on to the controversial topic that i'm going to spend a little bit of time on because You know flame wars have nothing to do with technology But boy do people love them and let's talk about that And i'm only going to talk about it briefly Because what happened was you have the fork of open sense now I think there's always more to the story that we just don't have the full context for of everything that happened We can't see externally what did happen in the court of law because there's published papers on this The folks over at or specifically, I believe his name is jim over at uh decade did Typo not typo squat domain squat. It's not really a typo. They had open sense.org he registered opensense.com And squatted on it essentially saying open sense sucks childish behavior. I don't condone this at all I think that's uh, yeah, that's just childish, but uh That as an excuse I am once again being very clear. I don't condone this behavior I think people make mistakes. I think people make horrible choices This was one of them and that case was ruled against them And they had to surrender domain back over to open sense And the reason I think we're missing some of the nuance there is netgate is the foundation that sells hardware that funds the developers that develop pf sense And that hardware funding, you know, people say, uh, why does the netgate product cost x? Well, that extra money over the actual cost of the physical product that goes into software development Is what gets you the pf sense software and what gets all the other things that netgate sponsors And that's one of those little nuances that shouldn't be glossed over too much that netgate spends a lot of money Sponsoring and paying some of these developers to develop the bsd kernel and other open source projects I just know this because I know some of the people that are, you know, working there or working on the payroll that work on bsd Contributions, I know there's a lot of people that, you know, all the software should be free But the reality is it still takes very skilled developers to write this and someone has to pay their bills It turns out their computer isn't free their electric bill and utilities aren't free So they may have some free time, but they still have to eat and they still have to buy the technology that they Type on to write the code so there has to be money somewhere or it becomes a hobby project And unfortunately when some projects are less supported, they well fall by the wayside and lack features And bsd is an ecosystem that is substantially smaller than the linux The linux world is very much propped up by many commercial enterprises, you know, google and red hat And ibm and all these other companies do massive Contributions that end up in the kernel end up everywhere else on linux The bsd community is a lot smaller with a fewer number of developers And the two biggest projects I can think of well three, I guess if you count netflix Who does use bsd under back end, but you have ix systems and The pf sense and of course open sense and those are the big projects that are on the bsd front everything else And I know there at least be one or two comments But is an ix system starting churnass scale, which is also based on devian Yeah, so they're going to have You know development on both sides, but back to the point Bsd development costs money and netgate is contributing to it. I don't really know or at least I couldn't find I'm not saying open sense isn't I just couldn't really find it But they are both backed by hardware company because by the way open sense has another hardware company I don't know how to say it. It's des ico But they sell appliances that fund the development of open sense. So there's a very similar Business model that both of these have and here we go high quality dutch engineering And we don't really run into many of these over here in the u.s But I believe my thoughts would be they're probably more popular in europe because being that it's based over there Um, I've had people complain that just you know, because I'm not an expert on this But when you import some of the devices from the u.s over there There's a lot of fees that may get added on to it versus things you buy directly in the eu But that's uh, certainly outside of what I do every day But they do it. Like I said have some more business models on there. All right now back to finalizing this They surrender the domain over and open sense got open sense.com and everyone loves to Complain about this controversy. I think it's Something that they regret doing but hey take it for what it's worth I'm willing to move on and forgive when someone makes a horrible mistake Because if I hated every software where someone was just an ass is all I can say I would probably not use any software at all software development is peppered with people who are uh, Less than good behavior, but hopefully regret it grew up and became more adult later All right, moving on to some technical topics And I do consider this somewhat of a technical topic and it this is kind of where my leanings are for Uh, pf sense. It's a job search. I know job search doesn't sell any technical topic But hear me out technical people using pf sense I have covered this before and there's something that I'm under nda for that I can't talk about Which is the large companies that have hired us to help integrate pf sense with some of their other systems The same thing with netgate many companies when they buy products They don't want you to know what product stack they're using they don't disclose that all the time This is why when you look at some of the larger companies are becoming quieter and quieter about the technology Because from a security standpoint this reduces threat surface Because if you know that a company is running any particular stack and then you know, there's a flaw in that stack Now you have a vector of attack to potentially go after that company because you're like, hey cool There's a flaw in this product and we know the target that we're looking for Uses that product. This can be one of the reasons like they obscure it But I bring that up the way you can sometimes find out what stacks companies are using is by looking at The job postings and when you look at the job postings, I put an open sense over here And indeed which I think is probably more focused on the us Maybe there's a way I could look in europe and it would be a little bit different But I don't see many of these open sense systems Operations people being hired matter of fact, I find it interesting. I think that There's just it more like mentioned like do you know some of the open sense stuff in here and there's like a little bit in here but when you look at the Job offerings for pf sensors 58 job listings for people looking for pf sense And I bring this up because one we've run into it in the wild very frequently like we've taken over You know random client that needed it help or they lost her it admin and they need someone to take over and we'll find a pf sense Device in there or software defined or however, they've got it loaded whether they bought it from netgate or virtualized or anything else in between That is very very common. We run into these data centers We have just been in them and notice. Hey look at netgate and netgate and netgate They're really common in there when we're at colo locations. I've seen a lot of them out there I just have never seen anything from open sense and like I said, maybe because they're more european but this is also where my start came from in using pf sense is at a bank in around 2014 or 15 Was a banking system and we were surprised to learn that their system had it and we just a little bit of consulting that was going on back then and Like I said, we've run into it a wild constantly and you know, we just see it a lot more for it so it's one of the reasons that you know, I'm so well versed in it and uh, yeah That's kind of the same thing going for the job thing now That is not a reason not to use open sense But it's just a you know my perspective of how much we run into it and one of the reasons we stay kind of focused on it So now we can get into the actual technical topics and looking at the interfaces Because I noticed what a lot of people want to do is talk about What makes it really different and what makes it really different is this dashboard that looks different here than it does here, right? Well, this is where the nuance is and this is where a lot of engineering went into open sense to change things The big change is the interface. It's A lot different the underlying technology is the same This is one of the reasons that they're both solid solutions for firewalls is because they're still based on bsd They're still based on a lot of the same core functionality at the bottom But how you address and how you get to that functionality is where the nuances start coming in So the dashboards do look a little bit different Um, but also look kind of the same in some ways when you start at the dashboard So if we started the dashboard here, uh, we know whanlan services and go over here very very similar Now let's look at something like the firewall and net rules If we go over here or we can go over here This is part of the experience you get we can go to firewall and uh, or we can even type in nat and uh cool now pf sense no such universal search bar This is where if you're starting from ground zero and you've never used one of these before Either one of these devices There may be where you find the open sense a little bit easier because you can just use the universal search without having to Go through the menus such as firewall net Now that is one of those things that's just going to be different. So actually let's start with this rule here Let's look at the wan role because I may have a very similar rule in both and uh It's the open up to the outside world rule and this is the allow firewall rule Let's edit this one and actually we'll go here And go to rules We'll go to wan And then here's our you know, what allows me to remotely access this. I'm on the outside of both of these networks Action pass. We have the option to disable the rule interface direction in Protocol and let's actually go show hide the advanced options. Um There's just all these features here, you know tcp flags and things like that scroll down interface address protocol disable the rule source destination logging display advanced tcp flags They both have tagging So we have the tag options right here tagging is actually a pretty cool feature where you can tag a rule to Then have it processed by a second rule essentially changing rules together But there's just some neat stuff that's in here that both of them have because other than a slight interface design When it comes to writing a lot of the rules, they're very similar and much the same The only thing that becomes a little bit different and I haven't researched how they handle it But they do handle it is like how they do the qos It's done a little bit differently because you can do your qos and an outpipes And cues here for things but overall like I said other than slight implementation differences They're very very similar now Let's go back over to nat rule because this is where they did diverge a bit And here is the remote access to a system behind it and we'll edit this rule This was confusing and They say filter rule association now to explain what a filter rule association is when you nat something you bring it in And we want to redirect port 22 on the van side of the firewall and bring it to forwarding it With nat translation to a device behind here. So it hits port 22 on the device behind there There's actually a two step process that goes on and some firewalls consolidated into a single step or obscure Especially the consumer ones are known for obscuring it. You just port forward something There's actually the forwarding option and then there's the allowing that rule to happen on when the filter rule that happens They've done this in pf sense if we go over to firewall nat And we look at this right here They have done it by filter association rule and we have a click to say view the filter rule And here is the filter rule versus the net rule I'm confused because there's the rule for filter association rule that says I should create a filter rule that passes it But where the confusion comes in is when we go over to rules and we go over to when That rule doesn't exist over here Which causes me a little bit of confusion But these little nuances are some of the differences that sometimes make it difficult when people say tom Why don't you do more open sense videos? I'm like I'd have to learn some of these nuances Now you can usually reverse engineer and sort this out But I also consult the documentation which wasn't clear on this This is one of the things that I did kind of notice is the documentation isn't quite as thorough in open sense As is in pf sense to address those changes the underlying system may be the same But the nuances do kind of matter for you know, if you want to make sure you're doing all these things right All right. Now, let's talk about the alias system. They actually both have an alias system So firewall aliases we can do ip we can do ports. We can do URLs. They did the same thing here But once again, there's the nuances of how they change it to make it a little bit different But this may come down to preference for how you want to do it. They group them all here You hit the little plus And they're just done differently where you do a pull down here instead of a series of tabs gyp URL tables I was actually at first slightly confused about how they did this but it turns out You do it this way. So once again, they do offer aliases. They do have port aliasing and all those features Implemented slightly differently and uh, that's a little bit of nuance. Now, what about an intrusion detection system? Do they have that? Yes, there is intrusion detection. So if we go over here to services intrusion detection administration Did it not go? There we go Intrusion detection, they have this now the difference between the way it's implemented is you get to use sericada You only get to use sericada versus in PF sense you install a package. It's not natively installed It is a separate package, but you get to choose which package you want. They're both official Whether it's the snort package or The package for sericada. So you have two options. They're using sericada and open sense and both are great So, uh, that's just a nuance if you have a preference for snort, sorry It's not available. You can only use sericada in there. Now. I did notice too I could be me of not knowing where everything is it feels like there's a lot more fine tuning that can be done and a Lot more options you can dig into for here But like I said, it could be just me not knowing in open sense where it is But overall they both do have that feature Now let's talk about qos and The traffic shaper. So here's a traffic shaper. Here's a wizard for the traffic shaper We can go through and enter a number of WAN interfaces This is virtualized and doesn't have proper alt q So it does give an error because they can't do alt q on this particular interface But they just call it shaper inside of here You have Pipes q's and rules. I didn't see a wizard But they do have the ability here to create some of the rules I'm less familiar with how it works in here, but nonetheless It is an available option in here and they do have coddle q. So that's good VPN options this is Interesting because there are different ways apparently the Way it handles wire guard and wire guards one of those little controversial ones. So yes, it has it But it's got wire guard go implemented currently But my understanding is they're moving over to the kernel wire guard Now this is a development version of pf sense And let's talk about the wire guard situation real quick here in the 2.5 version It came out and the 2.5 1 it was removed the reason why was there was some code problems found Let's swing all the way over here to the code commits by jason donfield And this is where some of that confusion comes in I'll leave a link to it so you can read so i'm not going to read you all the code commits on there But i'll leave a link so you can go through it. What happened was the team over at netgate hired a developer That yes, they hired someone who did not do a great job apparently of writing the code But did do a lot of the code writing And that's a sponsored project that went into the bsd kernel that now anyone who uses the bsd kernel i.e. open sense is going to be able to use that code and You're saying no jason donfield is writing it jason donfield imported all the code And that's actually he took the code that was written and then made the changes Now, I know someone will say it was terrible. It was broken, etc, etc But you can actually look through the commits if you understand how code work and see The incremental and small changes now incremental small changes It doesn't take much code change to change something from hey, you've Broke something and made a port open or offered an insecure Way for something to happen, which was also kind of an edge case with an mtu Problem if you use an oversized mtu that won't even transport across the internet and accepted that mtu with the special filter rule Yes, you could buffer overrun the particular Experience in here and that was one of the things they did they had a couple race condition issues But it mostly is the same code that's now in here That's been ported back and brought into free bsd for both projects to now enjoy or any project that runs on bsd So it's coming back as a package in 2.6 But it is available as a go implementation currently in open sense But my understanding is they're going to be moving to that kernel implementation So hey, I'm so glad someone sponsored the code because it got the ball rolling because it wasn't happening without Someone being paid to do it So that's kind of the bottom line on that now moving on to the next topic and that's open vpn Once again much the same. So if we look at open vpn, which is a long time well established And so a very popular vpn for managing remote users and we look through all the options they have in here like tls authentication and Certificate management and all these checkboxes plus the ability to add advanced features Let's go ahead and look at our test vpn here Yep Much the same now I didn't check to see if absolutely everything was in feature parity here But you get the idea that they're very similar Which is of course when I've done many videos on open vpn People say hey I was able to use your video to figure out how to make the same thing happen inside of open sense Because they're very similar To the way they work and of course they do have ip 2nd here as well same thing tunnel settings rsa key pairs etc Next topic is package management This is where there's definitely a lot of the same packages. So we'll go over to the package manager in here And we'll look for uh ha proxy And this is one of them we can load so we hit the little plus here if we want to load ha proxy You can also do the Let's encrypt with acby so it's cool. Once again something else we have And we have those over here install. I don't think I've installed here, but the system and package manager type in proxy all right cool, we can Find different proxies or specifically we can find ha proxy in here Maybe yeah, it is right there. So there's ha proxy if you want to put it in So that's a popular feature. I've mentioned. I really like on pf sense But yes, it does exist not used it But it does exist over in the open sense world as well And once again, that's pretty cool. The one thing where we have a big of a divergence though is in this pf blocker hugely popular project on pf sense There's not a direct equivalent that i'm aware of because pf blocker Natively does not exist in open sense, but that package is different But you may have noticed or maybe seen it flipping through here. We have this install Now this is a separate third party package, but can be loaded through their package manager called Sensi and it's pretty neat. I don't know a ton about it I play with it a little bit It gives you some cool graphs and tells you where people went It has some filtering options when you pay a subscription for it and it's a cool add on here There's not an equivalent in pf sense to this particular package for doing this filtering I don't know much more than the review that you can probably find here a Feature comparison of the open sense plugin by sensi by sunnywayvely's by the home network guy And uh, the home network guy, uh, I will leave a link to this particular review and He goes down and dives into all the features that it has that is more extensive than I've taken the time to research But uh, he appears to have done a lot more time in it So if you want to read more about this particular plugin and this description seemed reasonable to it It is a cool feature on open sense that does not exist in pf sense So that's worth mentioning onto the diagnostics. Let's talk about pf top I love pf top because pf top allows me to do things like type in host and uh Go like I think I can take that host. Yeah, there we go. We see some connections here. Um Go here. There's one for this. All right I like using pf top when I'm doing research to try to figure out what's connecting to what and trying to trace things out It's a great tool and someone's probably already said, yeah, it doesn't open sense have pf top well, yes, but They just dump the list and don't give you a way to filter it So that's kind of a one nuisance. I did find right off the top here when I started looking at diagnostics. Secondly diagnostics, there's a lot of them here inside of pf sense so but they're all in one place So I have all these options here I can even do cool things like execute a shell command and you know Halt the system and reset to defaults and edit a file and everything else It's a little more confusing how they did it at least to me it is and this is my opinion Of course, someone may think this is better. There is a subcategory of diagnostics. There's system diagnostics, which are going to be under system than diagnostics interface diagnostics Firewall diagnostics and it's just a different way of grouping the tools So at first I was confused as to where those things were because I'm used to using menus not using a universal search But maybe that's just the way I am and because I spent too much time I personally do like it better in one list, but that's just the way they designed it but props to the open sense people because I've always thought this was stupid in pf sense And I know they've gotten plenty of people complaining about this before Is we have a power option to reboot or power it off in pf sense to me That absolutely belongs in this short little system menu. That's would make a whole lot of sense Where do I restart this thing? I should be able to go to system and have a power Do I want to reboot it or do I want to you know, turn it off? But pf sense has insisted that's a diagnostic tool Which I guess in some ways it is we reboot things because we're not sure what went wrong So we reboot it to see if it fixes all the problems we're having And this is just true for most things in tech, but they've decided to have halt system and reboot system under diagnostics So I definitely will give props open sense for fixing that when they did the new UI because that's where it belongs I don't know that needs its own separate menu. I think it should be a system function not a Diagnostic function, but that's my opinion again and clearly the people over at neck eight or pf sense developers don't agree with me Maybe someone does but anyways, it's it's such a minor problem. Honestly. We once in production We rarely ever reboot a firewall except for for updates now. I want to talk about logging system logging the logging seems a little bit more dispersed in here and It became a little bit more confusing for me to just see all the logs I am favoring the way the logs are done here Where there is tabular and I can go through all the different logs in one place to be able to dive into things this just Yeah, it's kind of a Consolidated here and in here. I don't know. It just feels like it's not but the good news is I know there is a way to push all the logging somewhere else So if I push the logs out somewhere that would probably do it, but I'm not sure where that is but the logging just feels like System gateway log file they've dispersed it because kind of the way they did diagnostic each one's a subheading under each thing So it made it a little bit trickier to go through log files But because we do a lot of troubleshooting, this is why I think about this We actually spend a lot of time looking at you know Diagnostics and log files because if someone calls us for a consulting project on integrating to our network It's not because it's integrated into your network. It's because they're having a problem with it So troubleshooting is a huge piece of the consulting work that we end up doing And having in one place does make my life a lot easier And one minor little thing I'll mention. I do like that they've integrated the net flow Right here into the system as opposed to having as a plugin. It's a plugin inside a pf sense You can use n-top png to Dive into some of the net flow data and look at it But they did integrate it natively with net flow and then you tell it to either Use an external destination server or you tell it to use local host here Which gives you some insight into some of the traffic with literally what's called insight right here This can be helpful when you want to look at certain Aspects of things on the wan or the land How things in traffic and what ip addresses or do some reverse look up on some of the ip addresses that it is reaching out and touching Do this it'll pause a second and do that you can do this with n-top But like I said, it's an add-on plugin in the packages that you can load for pf sense, but it's natively built into here But overall the reporting on this with the traffic reports and things like that are very similar Once again to what you can do here looking at packets you can look at system processor traffic VPN users dive into this and create these views under the monitoring so they they both have a way to do it And frequently when you get into the enterprise market You start piping all the logs and all that net flow data to something that can really do it And there's plenty of projects that support both open sense and pf sense for exporting all of that data Into something like grafana and making some really pretty graphs and much more actual intelligence on there So neither one of them I think does an amazing job of giving you the most in-depth reporting But they both have different ways of handling it But the net flow being natively built and I thought was you know plus for the open sense side Now finally the question which one should you use Now they're both open source projects pf sense though This is the way they've been doing things they have their community edition Which is just called pf sense ce or community edition and then they have the pf sense plus Which is the community edition with some closed source add-ons on there There's something similar because I don't believe the full sense system is fully open source So there's add-ons you can get to pay for or buy the licenses for open sense They do have a business model where they sell support and licenses just like the folks at pf sense and neck eight do So there's different ways you can have certain components and add-ons put onto these And this is where people say well, it's not truly open source if there's add-ons But the base components are and it's a lot of nuance you can you know, uh spin around and debate about and really Go crazy about if you want Bottom line of which one you should use pf sense or open sense. I don't know just use some common sense That's kind of where i'm going to leave you with this I'm not here to tell you not to use either one because I think they're both good products I think they're both secure products. They both have different ways of implementing things from the interface to use a similar Underlying system so on there So I can't make those decisions for you But hopefully this video helped you understand the two different product bases and let you use your common sense to make a decision It works for you. 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Tervet to Loa and Kristen who's our Finnish representative Kristen is that correct? Thank goodness. I'm glad you're here. We're going to do Finland. We're going to Open face sandwiches which my fabulous volunteers have made they are gorgeous Which is simply rye crisp sort of bread or bread topped with cottage cheese and veggies We're going to have fish stew It will be white potatoes with white onions and milk and white fish And I'll demonstrate a little bit of the stew Kristen our Finnish person Heritage made the pool of bread and then we have lingonberry jam and rye cookies with caraway And can you imagine rye cookies with caraway are delicious? Oh my gosh? They are so good you will love to have those recipes this week and and I drove to Elkhart Lake to visit Pirka who runs the Nordic Accents gift shop in Elkhart Lake for 30 years, and she's from Finland and she said to us She likes to go back to Finland to visit her family, but she's not going to go this year. She's afraid of the Russians Yeah, because and Oh, yeah another part because then of course there's the winter war for Finland 1939 Russia did to Finland exactly what they're doing to the Ukraine All right, we have geography for books. We have cookbooks Kristen Plucer from the Art Center has a Finnish background So I asked her all the Finnish words, and she knows a couple a very few Finnish words my mom's side of the family is Finnish American and my grandparents are first-generation Finnish Americans and grew up speaking Finnish in the home My mom did not of course she could understand a little bit, but she wasn't encouraged to speak Finnish It was you know in American. Yeah But when I did travel to Finland when I was in my 20s because I wanted to be back and you know the old country And I could say and puhutko Suomea and puhue Suomea, which means I don't speak Finnish Yeah, puhutko and glantia, which means do you speak English? But because I look pretty finished. Yeah A lot of people would not they kind of they didn't really think that I was being honest Maybe I don't know a lot of really weird looks like oh, you don't speak Finnish That's I was in Finland for about a month, but my mom's is a Lutvilla and From northern Minnesota, so she comes from a small Minnesota Finnish American community. It's a little town called Tamarack. It's just west of Duluth a couple of hours north Yeah in sort of like a wetland with Tamarack Forest, so it's beautiful up there. It's a beautiful area, but most of the people in Tamarack There's about 65 people that live there now our Finnish From and most of them are probably related to each other They have a tiny little Lutheran church with no running water. You have to use the outhouse when you're there And they have someone who comes through about once a month, you know, and I went once with my parents and I was like Oh, I'm related to like 75% of the people here Of course Tied, you know kind of close community But when we were growing up the when Marilyn and I were talking about food for today The things I remember mom cooking at home, which were you know from her background were Moeca, which is finished stew. So that's why we came up with the color Moeca is fish stew My brother and I probably didn't like fish and soup very much because kids don't but so we had a lot of venison Moeca reindeer Dear me never had reindeer But Moeca is actually a Finnish American word So if you went to Finland and you were gonna order fish stew It's a different word for it. Moeca is something distinctly Finnish American and not related to Finnish from Finland. So so we grew up with Moeca and Pula bread Visiting it's the Scandinavian cardamom bread. And so it's got a different name in each Scandinavian country It's pretty much the same thing everywhere but at least in mom's family on Sundays and other times of the Week you go visiting right? So yeah Sunday afternoon I imagine everyone's trying to visit everyone else. So no one's home and some Right, they have little notepads outside. Yeah, right. They do on the door frame. Yep But it would be coffee with Pula So there's a pool of making day of the week where you know My grandmother would make bread and then when you visit you get coffee and you always get bakery to go with it Just like and you have coffee about six times a day So you have coffee with breakfast you have coffee in between of breakfast and lunch you have coffee at lunch You have coffee in between lunch and supper you have coffee at supper and then you have coffee before you go to bed So there's like six times a day like it is a coffee culture No, Kristen, I bought finished coffee at the gift shop in Elkhart Lake and we have it today and it is very gentle mild coffee And my grandparents always had a pot on the stove and I'd say probably with the stew My grandpa grew up in a family of 13 children Wow, and his father was from Finland and they live rural Minnesota quite poor and so They would eat whatever they could hunt or fish or trap or grow in the garden. So it was you know Whatever would go in the stew? Ah, yes with the with the potatoes The story on December the 13th with the teenagers serving the grandparents and so on the Candlelet That's sweet. I didn't grow up with that No, I had read about that. Yeah, it may maybe something that's done, but yeah, it's not a tradition Oh, yeah, that's a Swedish thing I think And Finnish is not like Swedish or Norwegian Finnish is a completely different language related to the Hungarian language Would you turn off the stove? Turn off the stove But I do I wore my Shaking a little non sisu is that one of those untranslatable words in another Culture so sisu is a word that in Finland. It's generally understood to be guts or determination so That's like a Finnish thing like if you have sisu you have guts. I've also read That it could be somewhat Ethnological so I watch out for it because it Determination in the face of repeated failure is also You just keep ramming at something even if you fail at it, but you'll just keep on going But I also since I'm a tattooed person I see right you are Is very like I'm close to that side of the family so I had sisu tattooed on my arm with some folk art Style art around it in order to just kind of remember, you know, where Nice very nice I have another question coming, but I'm going to tell a little story first My daughter Diane who lives in California and her partner Amanda they live out there And Amanda grew up in northern Illinois and she is a gift for languages for whatever reason But she spent a whole year in high school a school year in high school studying in Finland with a family and she tells the story the day she got there the family Greeted her at Helsinki Airport. They took her home. They had a nice big family meal soon as it was finished They all went outside. They went to the sauna. They all took off their clothes and Amanda said Okay, and she did the sauna When we lived on the farm in Minnesota until I was six the neighbor Mr. Berg There was a sauna this outside of his house now He never used it, but mr. Bugaman who lived there before used that sauna Well, mr. Berg just used it for storing logs And as a little kid when they talked about this the bath. I didn't comprehend a Bath, where's the water? But I was five years old. How would I know? Yes, and you with the sauna They made beautiful tapered beeswax candles to sell at the Christmas market So I went and worked for them for a month and where they had their candle making factory They there were other artists and designers with studios in that building and they had a sauna for the entire building And so my friend I was just too shy You were the odd man out As soon as you have your own bill you also have to have your When I see people's sounders here, they're usually beautiful, right? They've got Cedar line. Oh, yeah Yeah And my side of the family Get it hot It was very much like here we are and here's our outbuilding and this is Thank you Kristen, thank you. Let's start I'm turning them the fire on I have potatoes and onions and butter in here We have the big pot of fish stew in the kitchen and I have a piece of walleye and I'm going to skin this We start at the end and of course when you watch them on TV All they have to do is hold on to it and you pull this off That doesn't work with crap You have to keep cutting it and of course into this fish stew the recipe is potatoes onions fish some seasoning some Slurry to make it thick and milk So it's a nice white Gentle soup and this is walleye any kind of a white fish and I know Kristen said how about salmon and I said I Don't think salmon so she got the walleye, which is great and do we have any? You know what in there? Yep And I tried with tweezers and I discovered that doesn't work very well This is a boneless piece of fish. That's good and cut up into some pieces and You can see how carefully you have to do this and measure it carefully Put the fish in there When I was I was cutting up the fish last night and it took a while and no odor whatsoever, so you know that is fresh walleye No, I could smell fish a little bit, but that was wonderful and of course If you have a cat they would love this wouldn't they our son and his And his wife and the two grandsons their cat had died They purchased a Maine Coon cat Anybody know what that is that they grow to this be the size of a cock or spaniel, but it's a cat But I understand it's a gentle loving cat. Well, they ordered it and Picked it up close to Chicago and the cat Leroy had just come in In November probably the last it was born in November but came Here when he was four months old to Chicago the last plane out of Russia. He was yeah, right, right? so they have Leroy a nice nice cat a Very nice cat and of course they know enough to hold on to the tail and the paws and the whiskers as a kitten So that the cat will be used to that last night they started with a harness and of course Go Leroy did much care for that, but they kept feeding him and that was fine because mainly he's interested in food right now he's growing and And he's trained him to come with a clicker as a little kitten that's great A long one. Oh, you think you're Manx?  Because you will have just lumps and nothing else now. We'll turn this up a little bit next month in April we're doing bananas So we'll do flaming bananas foster on banana ice cream and You don't find banana ice cream very often It was my grandfather's favorite of all, but he was born in 1889 and The only fruit that ever came in in the northern or in Minnesota were the bananas on the train So there in that part of Minnesota banana ice cream was very common So and he loved bananas, especially bananas that were overripe and mushy and He lived to be 102 and he drank lots of weak Scandinavian coffee Half a cup of coffee with half a cup of cream and we'll do the Torstones Which is the plantain that looks like a banana and we'll mash it and make little fried patties and then we will make Banana pancakes remember Faith Gruber. She's coming back to help. This is Faith Gruber's recipe a mashed banana With an egg and you make it onto a pancake. That's it two ingredients. Oh my that tastes great Oh, I have another spoon Christine want to taste it It's just a little bitty piece Yes, I know I hope the big pot is that good We'll add this to the big pot. Okay. Let me pull this out Let me disconnect and so far I have not tripped on the cord Yes, and and last time they were telling me to check the outlet check the out No, no, no. Well, they were absent the kitchen staff was absolutely right and I was absolutely wrong Yes Yes, and an extremely high standard of living and I think the best education system in the world And is it Finland or is it Sweden? No, no Switzerland that pays their teachers the same as airline pilots and physicians and Funny how that works out so well, right? Yes, what a surprise The lady from the gift shop insisted that I have this sugar for the pool of bread Well, Kristen didn't have it at home. So we're taking some out and we're just going to and it sort of looks like Pretend snow, but it's it's sugar. Yes And the Belgian oh, is it even bigger than this Well, there isn't much in this world that I don't like I must tell you And the lingonberries and when you taste these you will think that they're cranberries I read some of the one of some of the cookbooks of a sweet Finnish woman who lives in the United States and she uses cranberries And they do taste alike our open-faced sandwiches It's that Crispy cracker bread because that's easy to make and then I mixed together drained cottage cheese and cream cheese just to make it not so wet and it would spread better because we're making these ahead of time and Then we have carrots and radishes and egg and parsley and green onion all sorts of things on them And when you see the pictures of these Open-faced sandwiches and any of the Scandinavian company countries They put lots of toppings on it Can you bring the fish stew, please? You're gonna be impressed by that We purposely put it into this pot instead of a nesco because this will be much more entertaining than a nesco In here I have onions potatoes butter and then that's slurry and then um fish Look at that Vicki did you see Vicki's outfit? She put this together from St. Vincent Yep, and then you know Ryan Sorenson is going to be doing a German cooking class for us And that'll work for that one also I'm sure in Finland and in Germany. They could tell the difference, but we here in Sheboygan cannot and it just You see it is just white white fish white onions white potatoes and milk And let's put this flavorful one in there also. I Didn't think you needed to watch me peel potatoes or slice onions. I think you don't need to learn that You already know that Okay, then we need some servers with gloves Any questions Wasn't a lot of making demo in front of you today, but there will be in Bananas and there will be in I'm thinking depending upon them how the mayor decides to do his German cooking class Okay, and I would say You know somebody can use a ladle of this and the other person can use this half That works great, and I think we'll start at this end Bring your plate, and we'll have the open-face sandwich the soup the pool of bread The pool of bread the lingonberry and the surprise caraway rye cookies