Felly, y first thing is to say is that why black and ethnic minority representation is important for the left and progressive politics. It's not that it shows your nice people. It's not that you'll do any favour.  Rydyn ni'n ddwy wedi datblygu ddiwedd ar gael i gael i'r llesio. Gall hynny'n mynd i ddweud, adestillwch, gannynt eich ddoedd Udara Cymru'i yn rhaid i chi'n meddwl i'r llawer oedd y dyfodill i ddweud yn ei ddath i'r defnyddio yr aesiatol a chydwch chi'n meddwl i'r etymru i ddweud o dyfrannol i gael i'r llesio readiness. but I think I first met Jeremy he was actually with Bibarra because he was both having a character at the time and Jeremy's record always equals to go back over 30 years but the other thing to say is we've made some progress on black-eyed motherhood representation it's a fact that Jeremy called has more women in his cabinet, View that in the Shelley Cabinet at any other low lately though, he currently has four I want it, we have more thor, Bayne MP to a Labour Party though, before and, it's quite important to say that, some people take the number of chefs рассet and there is some way to do in particular going to represent in reference to me'r representation but nonetheless it is the Labour party that is shown away Fel y pethau, oes ni'n brydwyd i'r backsfawr neu'r marion fwyog ar y cankylchau, ac hoffi'n gynnwys, oherwydd mae gennychwyr wedi bod y byw ddechrau, ac rydyn ni fyddai cychwyn, ond awf, nad yw yma'n cael dweud yn ddylch yn gweithio mor hyn, oherwydd mae'n gwasanaeth, oherwydd mae'n gyfnodr yna, a byddai hynny yn gwneud, yn mynd i ddechrau i ddechrau i ei chwarae, sy'n cymdeithasol am y gwasanaethu mewn gwneud. Weithio ar gyfrus y Chfynion rhaid. Mae fyddwn yn cwrs ar gyfrus, gan gyfrus o'r parlymor nawr, yn y ddweud yn yr eich parwy, ond hefyd yn ychydig i'r ddeunydd yma. Bydd y cerddor yn cyrraedd ddweud yn ddweud. Mae'r un o'r bwrth gyngor yn y gyfnod ar y parwy, ac wedyn chi'n gydag yn ei ddweud o'r ddweud, o'r ddweud yn sicr yn y gallu o'r llei, ac yn ei ddweud o'r cerddor yn y cerddor. Felly e'n gweithio gyda'r parwy, ond e'n gallu gwneud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud, yw'n gweld i'r parloedd 13 yn ymgyrchynig, ond mae'r sgwyddoedd yn y cwyddog yn ymgyrchynig, nid oes yw'r cwyddoedd.  Maen nhw'n golygu i'r ffordd. Dw i ddim yn unrhyw gwaith eich ffordd yn bod i chi wedi'i cefnodiol newid yn iechyd. dyna'r gwelch. Mae'n gweithio i broadiwch a wneud bod y meddwl yw'r olygu cyhoeddiad y Llywodraeth. Y pobetyniad sy'n gwneud sy'n gweithio wahanol am lawer o un oedd yma i gyfinodau sy'n gwneud i'w ddawn yn ysgrifennu ac mae wnawn niwr yn gwleithio i hyn o'r bwrdd fe dydd yn diddorol ar y bryddoedd. Rydym yn gweld yr hyn mae'r rhythyn nhw'n ddwybr gael chi, ychydig, llunaf, cydwediad, y llunaf cydwediad, i'n ddim yn ddwybr gael. Mae'r rhanau sydd wedi cydweddau brygau cerddurol ac yn ymddorol ei ddegonol. Bein, y brifysg Lord, er oedd wedi gweld fath y gyrwm yn ymdau'r cyd-degwydd i gwellio bydd y gilydd yn ymgyrch. Mae'r rhai i gael yn lle, yn ei gael yn amgylchedd i chi, ond o'r wyrddaethais yn ymdau o'i ddweud, i'r ganrych o'r af gwirloedd, i'n ddweud, i wneud o'r uwch cymdeithas, yn dred, a'i schweithio'u, ein ddweud. i ymddiannau rhoi'r cymaint maen nhw o'r cymaint. Dyn ni'n ymgyrch ymdyn nhw o'r cymaint, 50% yn ddigon o lyfr o'r cymaint. Mae'n ymddiannau'r cymaint yn ymddiannau ymddiannau. Yw'r cymaint mae'r cymaint o'r cymaint o'r cymaint, ond mae'n mynd i'r gyfanydd o'r cymaint o'r cymaint o'r cymaint, is really quiet dire. This is why I keep coming back to the fact that we cannot just focus on representation to the exclusion of all else.   But the fact is, bay graduates face higher unemployment than their white counterparts. And on average, 23% less, even when working. And there's all sorts of research that's been done, which demonstrates that if you have a ethnic animal team or non-amlo saxophone name, you will find it harder to get shortlisted for certain jobs, including the medical profession, and you will find it harder to get recruited. So there is still institutional racism in employment. African and Asian workers are more than twice as likely to be in low-paid and insecure work. And people talk a lot about zero-hours contracts. Who do you think disproportionately has zero-hours contracts? Black, Asian and minority ethnic workers. So I think it's important to base our politics in the economic realities and the social realities for black and minority ethnic communities. So what is the way forward? One of the ways forward in my view is something that some of us have been talking about for 30 years, and that is to introduce all black minority ethnic shortlist parliamentary section to pay for it at the time. But we need to pay attention to the fact that all the shortlist have not necessarily worked for black and minority women. The vast majority of women that come through the shortlist are actually not being women. So I think we need to revisit the campaign for all black shortlist to mobilise gay voters, because you know, all over the country, in London, in our cities, Labour and Peter Wood didn't get elected if it wasn't for being a voter. But you can sometimes go to party meetings and you can half-put to get up to more than the figures of one hand. If you're looking at how many people are on the meeting, and I think that some of the parties don't very well, but the other party needs to move beyond just thinking of the very communities of voters and which are actively engaging them in local party activity. I don't know if you've asked me how to do that, I guess, I think, really complex, actually. You've just started talking about the issues which are concerning black and minority women. For years I've worked on issues about black education on the people. I can tell you I've felt all, I've felt all in the centre of London, I've felt all in the local community. What is happening to their children in the school is the thing that black and minority ethnic communities are very engaged with. And there's a range of issues depending on where you live. If you want to engage with black and minority voters, you have to start talking about the things they have to do with that, and you have to start holding the fence and reaching out to them. And you have to go beyond just dealing with quote-unquote community leaders. You have to start engaging the community campaign. We need to launch the requirements in names-based discrimination, which is a thing I refer to earlier. We need to consider growing that name alive quickly, perhaps, if necessary. We want to boost the income of black and minority communities by producing a real living wage of £10 per hour, £10 per hour by 2020. And, in forcing it, the number of prosecutions for not paying the minimum wage is derisering. We need to take robust action against violence and hate crime. We need to review the PREVED programme. I'm sure you can hear more about that later. And we need to look at issues in young black people and mental health. Black people, particularly young black men, are disproportionately represented in our mental health system. And we need to develop a strategy to deal with the inequalities in mental health and to raise the carers allowance to recognise the contributions of our careers. We need to reintroduce the education maintenance labs, because you know what that means. My young people, everyone was going on about tuition fees, but actually doing away with the education maintenance labs was a big blow for working class, young people, and a particular working class black and Asian people. And we need to work to eliminate the institutional biases in the use of stop and serve powers. And we need to actually deliver genuine policing by consent. In closing, it's not about dealing with community leaders. It's not about just remembering you've got a better community at election time. It's about genuinely engaging with the community around the issues that they are concerned about. It's about learning about the work and the search to issues for education to policing. I've seen a lot of chairs and some very important work management about engaging with that work. Because, as I said, you've been nice to people. It is about us being a stronger left and a transformative left. Thank you very much. But essentially, Claudia, many of you know me because you participated in enabling the transformation really in terms of the ruling body of the Labour Party, the National Executive Committee, and indeed participating in electing me along with my fellow colleagues representing CLPs. I am representing members on the Labour's National Executive Committee. Really to ensure that Jeremy Corbyn has the support that he needs to transform the Labour Party into the kind of party that we want to see to win the next election and to install and ensure that Jeremy is our next Prime Minister. Now I have the leadership of the party so that we can bring about the transformations that we need. I am very proud to be our next leader, to be our next Prime Minister because I think that this is something that not only means what he says on issues of injustice, of inequality, of supporting our communities, of going beyond that which others failed to actually deliver on. So I was quite confident that this was somebody that was not born of those who did not need to be schooled as the how to engage, did not fear engaging communities but naturally engage and deliver on the issues that matter to us and matter to us as Black minority of the communities up and down and he's been doing that for years. It was an overnight transformation. There are also gone issues of race, responsibility very seriously and it pains me, it pains me when I see that we have more mental institutions because of that we've forgotten politics, not a transition. We need a transformational set of politics based on clear socialist values because of that and it needs to be from the ground up. So this isn't about creating the policies that just get us into government. This is about sustaining itself no matter the policies that we set now must last generation, they last seriously because to me tackling environment and energy issues for example means that we're not only tackling climate fuel poverty and we are tackling poverty in the heart of our communities. What is happening with our communities which are where we are disproportionately overrepresenting in the poverty field as Black minority of the communities also affects us in terms of climate change when we see the decisions that we make here as local government, as governments, the decisions that we are communities globally we can only but see what's happened in terms of the hurricane in the Caribbean the tragedies in Mexico, the effects of climate change and we have a responsibility that when we do take power we use that responsibility wisely. So when we are making decisions about what to cut in terms of austerity we have to remember the global impact of those decisions and when local authorities as they have done have cut their climate change officers or their fuel poverty officers what happens is you get no action at local government level here and then what happens is globally our communities are suffering when our communities are suffering as recently in the Caribbean in the politics of the day communities globally and when we are like the US that have lived far that what they should do instead is buy US products own countries like Britain in the colonisation of those countries and they don't have the selling of it to changes of Gildando actually if people remember that far back that we got any attention on the issue of Gondran but actually when Gildando the streets of London shot down we needed them to take action to protect our communities and what goes then is part of the gun crime in London that's why we spent that time so that they saw purely as criminals so this kind of cultural institution but politically as well because as this general election showed in game and actually you need to make exciting more in game to sit not just one standard it is a disgrace that as a black women of youth abuse you section in every constituency in this country you don't have to be female to ensure that at least half are active representatives are female and you don't have to be black or minority ethnic to have the responsibility to ensure that we have an organisation or a party that can both represent and reach out and engage black people and minority ethnic people in our party of our communities and actually in certainly in recent decades the campaign for Labour Party democracy which I was involved in alongside other people in this work in the moment in 80s pining our country for the end of all male short lists and arguing for the inclusion of women on short lists and that is what led eventually to all women short lists and to the transformation not quite far enough yet but the transformation of the parliamentary Labour Party on that issue the campaign for Labour Party democracy also backed fully black sections to underline the fact that momentum, public qualities and in particular the representation of black people in the party at the forefront of its campaign so I also want to pay tribute to another bit of an achievement of the left I want to also remember the role applied by Ken Livingstone and the Greater London Council in the 1980s actually the work he did for the Labour Government that followed it with a different belief in what it did we've got a policy review in this party and that is an opportunity to make big changes but what are the changes that we need to make in black representation we in the course of the discussions about which is then to this policy review were raising a number of issues and then we came to the election of it took place recently within Bain Labour and some of our activists backing on this platform and others were involved in putting together a slate for that election and we were extremely disappointed to find the numbers of people even if they got letters telling them inviting them to make nominations ended up not getting ballot papers the number of people who would try to join Black Labour who nevertheless found that they were disenfranchised and when we eventually after a rather long time after the result was made known discovered that actually there were only 731 ballot papers issued in that election I think everybody was deeply shocked that an organisation that has existed now for many many years actually albeit it was an organisation that was designed not so much to represent black people as to end the campaign for black sections in the Labour Party we were shocked to discover that the organisation was by virtue of its tiny size actually not really fit for purpose to represent black people in this party and so neither that we will sing out of this review a Bain organisation within the Labour Party which really can involve all Bain members of the Labour Party but if you do that without them having to pay additional membership fees then it can have a really attention on the national integrity on regional level in the party that we will have vibrant Bain forums at constituency level that we have Bain conferences at a national level and regional level now that's what momentum I hope will be pressing for during the course of this review and we will look kind of and we will organise for that to happen in the future a lot of political football which is not very nice positioned to be a bit of a political bloke anyway to a new level me and a few people from my university few people on the left which was very small in the company as it went up in the streets in the days we got to build a Bain course and I think that sorry, can you hear me? we began to build a Bain course and I think in the first meeting that we went to there were about four people in it in a national Bain course for some of the students from university, country, country by the time we finished there was over 300 in the first ever national Bain liberation conference that had been held away it wasn't possible otherwise and we stood up to be the first ever chair candidate full-time position of Labour students and were treated abominably so I think that essentially coming from that we looked upwards as we came out of student politics we looked upwards into the Labour Party we looked at what was going on with Jeremy Corbyn and we saw opportunities and ourselves and what we wanted to do so we started looking at Labour and I think it's interesting John says we were making shots to find it I wasn't really that shocked I mean the whole organisation itself has been tainted with controversy and with it's shady you know we looked into it and we had someone who was actually sitting on committee she came up with the young Labour committee she's the Bain representative there so that means she automatically gets on to the Bain Labour Executive Committee and she has speaking rights but not voting rights so she put forward this idea to do a tool kit so we looked at the constitution we looked at the Labour Party constitution and the Bain Labour constitution we looked at the information that we could find which really was not a lot the constitution itself is public but there was no information for example on the number of members on finances no meetings from any of the executive committee meetings there was really very much information even as to who the committee members were because there were extra committee members that had just been co-opted on who knows how and where and why and what is going on there so even though we were working with an insider on the committee we couldn't get the answers to any of these questions that we were asking and then came the elections and people who were eligible to participate in the elections were kicked out for no reason people who we know weren't eligible to participate in the elections were able to participate and some people weren't allowed to vote and other people weren't and the whole thing was such a mess and it ended up essentially with us asking the question of what do we do with this organisation so it's essentially being labeled what it is it's an affiliated socialist society but because it came up through black stations with a lot of people here we're kind of building it involved in quite an erratic fashion so it started off as a socialist it's now a socialist society which is affiliated to the Labour Party but it also has a seat on the NEC so it has kind of a lot of power that's kind of come down through this organisation but there is no groceries organisation anymore you know there's nothing that we can draw on there's no networks no big national networks that are connected up that's what the Labour Party is supposed to be and it's designed to divide the Labour membership within the party now we have a party of nearly 600,000 members you're telling me that there's only 720 Labour members who are eligible to decide who represents us in the top Labour Party doesn't work like that and it's being designed to be that way so it's very easy to kind of manipulate and create this culture of secrecy it's shrouded in darkness we don't know what's going on there we're not supposed to know what's going on there when we ask the questions we get pushed aside there's not for us but the thing is with all of the manifesto everything that people have been talking about here that's really enthused people that have really brought people back to the Labour Party and said to know what that is a party that should be talking to me that is starting to talk to me where's my voice in it so we now have a lot more that big people who are coming into this organisation who are enthused and wanting to organise so they get the sort of policies and the sort of part and the sort of society they want to be so it's really an opportunity for us I think there's a reason why we started questioning about being Labour when we did and why there's a lot I mean it's hot it's really interesting now because this whole ethos party is giving the boost back to the message we've got double the delegates here that we did last year you know arguments being said for like Labour members to be discussing democratising the Labour Party and we have to be having that discussion for Labour as well it cannot be left behind at this time is now a lot of enthusiasm and a lot of people who are really coming together and that's an opportunity to organise with these things and as John said I think there's a lot of push for broadening out what Bayne Labour is which is essentially an organisation to represent and speak for like Bayne Labour party members so we have to make sure that it includes everyone so we've got to be really raising our voices coming together and organising a push for these sorts of things and not only then will it be given to us it cannot be, it won't be handed to us we have to do that ourselves we all have to come together and organise so that's what we've been pushing to do so hear from the floor and hear your ideas for that because we've got loads of ideas and it's really good to get that one out People have just left but you've come back so what I wanted to do is just to whisk through a few issues because for me, sorry first of all my name is Kingsley Aper I'm the general secretary of momentum Black Caucus I sit on a body of United Left which is a left group in the night I sit on that executive committee of United Left and you notice that people mentioned Black Sections earlier this evening that in turn to me have said Black Sections because I used to be a general secretary of Black Sections in the Labour Party as I do feel a bit old with this new politics going on in Labour so for me, the transformation agenda is about power it's about how we gain power and how we keep power and when I speak at audiences like this and people have only just joined a Labour Party and they don't know who they are they actually have got a left leader of the Labour Party in the 90s and 2000 they've got a left leader of the Labour Party and you've got someone who can actually be a Prime Minister on the left at the next general election unless something goes dramatically wrong the next Prime Minister you will be a left Corbynistag Corbynistag institutionalised Corbynism I don't want to wake up in the next 5 or 10 years and Caroline Flynn is the leader of the Labour Party Yes? You know, Tom Watson reason is waiting somewhere on the agency or something or the other Yes? So, that's not like this autism because you need to go back and think about how we institutionalise Corbynism how we gain power and we keep it for years and years and years and in doing so, not getting power for the sake of it but also for getting power to change the society and if we change that society then the black community and the black society will be transformed as well. So, I don't look at this discussion in isolation therefore, we need the 5% we need to get a situation whereby 5% of MPs to get a left leader on the ballot paper if and when Jeremy Corbyn stands down for the future because it has to be about after Corbynism as well if we are going to institutionalise Corbynism we go for those extra seats on the agency we've had 600,000 members of the party so we need more seats but in that power game how many of those seats are going to be black I want to have that conversation with you as well because not all of those new seats 3 in the sale is 1,000,000 all should be white party members we need obviously to have a co-bonist collected as the leader of Scottish Labour that's the context of the transformation agenda and we need to have a discussion at some point as to who and what follows Corbynism and how do we get a level sustainable leadership not a level leadership today or tomorrow but a level sustainable leadership and the black struggle is between that context as well and that brings me onto my good friend, Keith Vaz and why it's so important that we tap it by Labour and remove Keith Vaz from the agency maybe he'll come around when we were in the black social society negotiated that we'll have a base seat on the agency if we first to have that seat we need to have 2,500 black members of the Labour Party in Bayne Labour and as John mentioned and others have mentioned there's 731 members all the members of you recruited since Corbyn became leader this Bayne Labour could only of which only 2 voted sorry, 500 voted in the last election she left, she passed and then he goes back and he votes against Corbyn and the agency so the next election so we have to get black people joining me so that we can actually take on Vazen at the next election so the party has target 75 marginals for the next election how many of you know now that there are 75 marginal seats that Labour will be targeted in the next election how many people know the process has already started to select those seats July, August the process how many people know when the process will end November the process will end and there we come to it now how many black people in the Labour Party knows the process even exists before the election in Wilburton which is on the list a black person comes and says I don't want to be attacked because we didn't do too badly last we've got Marcia in in Battersea we're trying to get Marcia in one of the lotion seats and then she goes back and says oh my god, how are we going to take on 7th house but momentum has a strategy to take on seats up to 7th house and they go into it and Marcia's going to be here but the other thing I want to mention is when we come to things like that the next thing you actually need to target seats properly much better so why have two teams with a 31,000 majority oh it's a wonderful two thing not going to get to the end and Marcia won and you have to use Putney by 1,005 it don't make sense so the next time around we need to target seats properly so that we can take Putney and seats like that so we want to see the unions do more the unions need to do more to support black candidates momentum office and its leadership and the sense that she needs to do more to make sure that black candidates get into something with the seats and we want to see the leaders office doing more so out of those 75 how much should we ask for as black members within the move five, six and we struggle so we need some help to get more black representation just quickly on the manifesto and the policies first not just about I don't support people just because they're black I've never done that in the past I don't intend to do that in the future you've got to be on the left you've got to be called Minister Brexit Brexit is driving Brexit so we've got to take on these issues and tackle them there's a lot of people who voted Brexit and felt that the next day the people will then leave so it's serious it's important because racism has gone up Brexit yes of course we need an immigration system that is properly managed but we need a fair managed immigration system we don't need a Europe we don't need a Europe that allows its people to die in the sea that's that somebody is shooting me to tackle Brentford with this grace of Brentford so you pack the tower with migrants and porpi and then you run it down you can't even give it sprinkler so that if there's a fire that will be able to tackle the fire so all that nonsense we need to stop that's driven by and once again those of you who have recently joined you don't only have a left leader of a party you have an anti-austerity leader and Chancellor of a party can you imagine remember apples how will you cut this slower than the Tories or whatever but you've actually got an anti-austerity leadership and should we need an end to austerity we need to set we've got all of the people here for government thank you Questions Jumbo Romy mine We were hoping to have a black and ethnic minority man who who, an Asian man who started off with 12,000 against in a student union Governor Smith bought it down to 7,000 2,500 we are now an all-women shortlist I think that was an unfortunate decision I support all women shortlist but I also think we should deal with we had a really good black COVID-19 and should have not done all-women shortlist in Chyngford and Wilfrid Secondly, as a membership secretary many of the points that have been made here occur because of the way the membership system works I download this spreadsheet from the National Labour Party system and it has a column 4 land of female has a column 4 disabled a long time ago about 6 years ago now I wrote to the to the head of the service for membership and said we should have a column 4 ethnic minority have you ever heard of such nonsense if you do manage to get the information about self-declared ethnic minority out of the Labour party system which you can't do in that report which is the standard report which you can pull out some information so few people who are black have actually self-nominated that the entire number would still be tiny at the point the real number of black members in your party that's our party we are at fault this needs fixing and it needs this organisation and momentum and envies like I am and others to get the officers to change the way the party goes works she's already been married can you hear me can you come up to the front can you keep the question brief so we can get it to the men this gentleman my name is Andrea I'm a member of the entamolagian of the second Labour party and I look over the Labour party on the BMA the president of our GMC branching in the council and tonight so my question is actually and I'm talking to this actually in front of Mr Lassner who is the chairman of the vote momentum which I know my question and most excessive thing that I want to talk to you is that reparation for reparation for the crimes committed against black people slavery must be put on the agenda of the momentum group organisation in the order to influence future policies of the Labour party so that it is realised thank you hello my name is Sylvia Mengera I'm from the London Bar of Motion the motion that fits we have 48% blackness minority of its heritage people but we've never had any black and the people of this world have a short list of young people but Marshal has never got there so there's something we need to change I've had the same problems with the Labour since last year trying to get in there I register I haven't got anything even after special delivery letter so there we go we have a problem in our Bain forum because the Bain forum used to dominate chairs but now it's changed it's got the EC and the EC is mostly white and men so they treated black people so we need to have a lot of changes in the Labour party rule changes is something that needs to be done but rule changes in terms of voting rights because I'm on the committee now but I can't speak but I can't vote what is the point of voting when the voice can't have a real influence so we need to have that done I don't want Marshal that needs to be changed but that stops us being dependent OK, thank you very much first three questions to the panel just to remind the panel first question related to hierarchy for oppression so we need short list versus Bain candidates the need to have reparations a poster agenda and the final one rule change Claudia we have to have a go at to respond to the question that always talks about women versus minority ethnic you can see my dialing I wanted to ensure that the selection of candidates is done by the party themselves on the ground so that's why we're on an election footing put me on an election footing that's right we could have a next election anytime soon we have to be ready in Parliament we have to balance the situation as it is now on a democratic deficit when it comes to women that's why 69% of the targets AWS hotly contested between the different constituent elements of the Labour party historically defined from our own formation of course the leaders office has a great say on others socialist groups and others have a great say we've come to a decision as there will be some men who stood in the general election that will not be able to stand again in those seats because they're now AWS seats and of course there will be seats that will be tested by because we know African Caribbean men in any increase in seats so this issue of race is speaking about the issue of race as it is to an audience that may not have the different dynamics of it because I see come historically I was born in Leicester regardless of your minority ethnic position Ugandan Asians told me they were back in this society because of racism but we have a situation now where black sections were significant but we're now called black, Asian and minority it's a dynamical minority ethnic women saying that we can test at one level shortlist all women in terms of black minority ethnic women or you know what what you see every day we have the largest number of black women reflected in the shadow cabinet and that gives us root and branch opportunity to look at what what we need to do is try to meet all black the arguments about all black shortlist and I think shortlist is what our decision is on the first question I don't think we should get into the debate about women versus black people and I say this when I was the black sections general secretary we were one of the first groups on the left in the 80s and 90s that pushed for all women shortlist and I still retain that position so part is right to have all women shortlist but as Claude has just said all women shortlist and black women has not been reflected in those selections and they haven't come through all women shortlist in terms of ban, labour and loathing I think it's about time there's at least one black MP to look for the future to come and wear their problems with being forum we need to tackle that as well Reparation, yes, I support that so that we can look around to others I think the entire panel is about representation we have to be talking about the wider issues of engagement as well and I think it's really important that while we're talking about getting representation and it's an asset that we are so diverse we have to really be talking about how we get there and it's not just about pushing people through I support all women shortlist I think all women shortlist in many areas is a very good idea but I think it's not the answer the answer is empowering and engaging with women people to make sure that we claim our voice in the labour party it's our party, it speaks for us that's how you tube that that's what we should be working towards there was a specific question directed at momentum in terms of reparation on the agenda first of all on the question of reparation of slavery I mean the situation I think is even worse than a brother suggests because actually as I understand the abolition of slavery resulted in the biggest compensation scheme of all time not for slaves but for slave owners including them it's actually a factor to have a great distribution of compensation but in you know as well as actual compensation so I strongly sympathise on what was said I think in terms of our office I support what Kingsley said I think it was so worth the memory that actually at the time that that section started we weren't just dealing with the problem of lack of positive action we were dealing with over discrimination against black candidates we were dealing with black candidates who were vetoed on the grounds that they were black standing in my lectures in Peckham in a Martha Ottomann in a Sharon Acton it was outrageous what we were doing we are actually a few steps forward but we are further to go and I think in terms of the the more changes in relation to what constituency party so that is including the review the review is going to look at the structure of the constituency party and there are lots of issues to deal with in constituency parties that go beyond the subject of discussion here but it absolutely includes we should have active black and minority ethnic forums in constituency parties wherever there is a significant bone population we should have and this is something that the review will deal with and I think we are very lucky to have Claudia who is going to be involved in that review which gentleman? hello my name is can you hear me? my name is Tassid Gwyl from North Warwickshire a member of the momentum of the Labour Party I think the transformative agenda has already started with the good work that John Lansman has done with momentum we have been able to achieve fantastic results with that the Labour Party is actually changing in a way which is conducive to the masses and not the few are in progress what I would like to say is that momentum needs to continue that energy in terms of what Kingsley has said to support Bane candidates in the 75 seats that have been designated to be filled by November not just that we need an improvement in council selection and all that sort of stuff and what Becky has said I think is absolutely key we've got to stop engaging we've got to stop going to the Godfathers and community leaders of actually just represent themselves and we've got to engage with the masses I think momentum is doing that as a whole so we need to make that a priority and just one last thing we have Bane people on the NCG I also believe that we need to have a reflection in the workforce and resources need to be allocated for the Bane people to be able to do what the Bane agenda needs to do a recent I've recently joined the Labour Party because I have felt that the time is right I have signed up to momentum as well I have to say though that as someone that falls into the category of Bane I was asked my information I freely gave up my ethnicity and my personal information it was quite a surprise that that wasn't then channeled into something in the list that was automatically giving me information that was related to the issue related to myself and things that I may well be passionate and motivated by but I have to say that I found out that my Ethic Onality Forum just incidentally because it was tagged onto the bottom of an email that was sent out inviting people to fundraise the little barbecue in a different part of my constituency I did go on to that and I did take up Officers Post but again it's quite dismayed to find out that there isn't a sexualised Bane on this there's no real way of contacting and finding out who the Bane members are that starts with the Lord and the suggestion that I came up with is that when you ask people to divulge your personal information about their ethnicity I think that in light of the change in the data protection it would be a good idea to give a box at the bottom where people are able to tick to say yes I would like my to have to be put onto a mailing list related to that age and minority ethnic issues also I did join momentum I'm here to volunteer because I wanted to actually be part of that physical momentum movement but today is the first time I'm hearing about that focus movement so me personally I've been disappointed that I had to make that effort to find out about your comment talk and I do want to be involved so I just wanted to express that so I think the people doing the review my suggestion was include tick box, give people the option do they want to be put on that mailing list so at the end of the minority form you've got an option whether or not you want to be on the mailing list my question is my question is my question is a reparations was mentioned institutional on my race group has been mentioned I feel that we've slipped on that part of the progress so my question is what is the party's intention in relation to universities educating prospective teachers, nurses midwives, doctors, whoever to be more worldwide about the actual reality of what has built inequality structure into our society I encourage to hear what you're saying about the state of the failing groups my name is Glory Lleweros I am a Latino woman I'm a British Latina both here and in South America I'm a member of the failing form in writing and I've got a colleague here at the policy office as well we have been absolutely stunned at the level of this organisation the level of communication from National Bay people have been writing to me for four months and we haven't got the information we don't know how many ethnic minority women and men are around today at the conference because I'm a CRP delegate for writing and I've met so many Bay people saying exactly the same thing and we cannot do this I'm a board member and I'm not a member and I'm really glad to hear as well could I ask you a couple of questions one is well obviously we need to change this situation and on the Latino's core in the Facebook page I saw the fame later an open letter which you may have heard of basically bringing up the same points that you've been making we've signed it but we can get no information as to who originally is actually sympathised with what we're trying to do so it'd be nice to know what's going on with that and the other thing is obviously as a Latino I'd like to know if that focus is open to myself thank you and my colleague nearly here is policy officer thank you for that we're at the same forum and two years as policy officer I've been trying to find whoever they are writing to everything said that the Lego party doesn't yet collect ethnicity data and it needs to do that to meet its own equality act it's actually obliged to meet its obligations to serve the membership of its party and it needs to be interseccional to actually meet the dynamics of what Gordio was talking about we actually need to know for example who are the main members who are also disabled or that is a crucial issue that's actually in a sense also institutionally racist it's actually preventing us from reaching out to the main members who we know exist in the right and home because the census in 21% is 20% it's been some really it's been so much said I'm not going to get as sure as I can when we know what the the sensitive, dramatically minority is within any area it's useful for the Lego party to have a large percentage of shortlisted candidates the percentage of black and ethnic minority within an area it's a lot easier to argue this I suggest then for all black shortness and a lot harder to argue against it may seem uncompromised but it would be a small step at least in the right direction and we need to take some steps very much for that and hey a lot of questions here which I'll try and synthesise some of the issues already being raised but there is an issue around data collection and the way in which data can be used to identify and engage Lego party main Lego party members somebody pointed out that if this is not being done it's in contravention of the Equality Act 2010 so it's more efficient ways of collecting information that then can be used to engage and involve main members there are two questions that relate to momentum itself particularly national co-ordinating room how it is working to engage and involve and resourcing main activities and the efficacy of the main corpus within that room in terms of reaching out and engaging I would have thought the momentum members were more so a Lego party members or both so there are the two of ideas what are you well I picked up one about improving in black councils so that there are more black councils well I understand that momentum NCG is looking into that I think Joe Hedgesford is leading on that particular one at least in the audience at the moment and NCG can work with momentum black corpus to try and get more black councils in years gone by there used to be a new convention of black councils which disintegrated and we probably need to go back to working I'm trying to get more black councils but then at the same time in places like Lambert we're trying to get left councils full stop as they're all being blocked from getting on the LCF the Lambert campaign forum list because there were something there signed some petition in support of a left colleague and they've been bar from the council's panel so there's a lot of work for momentum and others are getting more councils and black councils on the Lucy's issues and yes there should be ethnic monitoring so that we know when people come into Labour what's their origin etc but you also need to be serious about gender protection and I think momentum knows about that and the seriousness of making sure that the data base is properly done of the law I apologise to those people who've only just found out about momentum Black Caucus I will ask John immediately to sign out something on one of the momentum apps so that you can get in touch with us and get in touch with you where that's concerned and yes there needs to be a risk of others trading there were lots of that in the 70s, 80s and 90s and we probably should come back to a bit more of that Gloria it's all about self definition if you define yourself as being then you're eligible to join and it's not for me to tell you that you're not going to define yourself and yes I've always as you would expect from the former general secretary of Black sections I've always supported all Black shortlist and we've actually in the past drawn up a list of those seats where we think they should be all Black shortlist and you won't be surprised that we should come round the top of those seats that we think should be all Black shortlist so we should go back to that I think we should first of all make a start with taking a walk more clearly suggested we've got a lot of data there because we do actually have quite a lot of information about FST I think for the more the more we do have a kind of tip box type of things when we join that's really about membership the members of the momentum that we do have some there is a lot of data which we and we have information possibly from the leadership campaign or the originating level of data which relates to ethnicity I think that what it does collect does now collect some data on their status but I think it has a benefit very long and so a lot of members of the momentum is now going to change so it might be a good thing but I think very clearly in order to involve the leadership campaign I mean that which goes out to the party to connect information to encourage people to identify they don't have information about Jenny they don't have information about they have information about Irish they don't have information about students we have one of the most students so that is one of the data we can collect and that can be done in a certain way where we don't have anything to do with it we have always tried to collect the data but obviously it's easier for members that's more mental than that than it is for supporters so I think we can circulate within momentum people about momentum black corpus and I think the main port on the MCG can so I think should we meet to consider that as well so we can take that up on councillors I mean we are I mean some of our priorities are actually being held back because other things have come before unfortunately like general elections and there are too many leadership elections that we've had which have kind of been a must do thing organising for this conference which is pretty critical because we knew that party reform would be an issue of this conference we were trying to promote that but I think it's a great step forward in the right direction that we've got obviously we're changing what Africa don't recommend by the NAC but also the party review which I hope will take things a lot further in all of these issues so since tomorrow we're going to scream because the phone is ringing so I want to Claudia as a member of the NAC what are you going to do Claudia as a member of the NAC what are you going to do to get the NAC to address the fact that it's in the contribution of the Equality Act 2010 by not collecting relevant data in terms of people's ethnicity, disability, gender and so on so give hope that if it's about localising involving and engaging our members you need to know a little bit more about having a number so what are you going to do as a member so I don't want to ask them to address that you're just keeping it short what we've all discovered what you've all discovered is that obviously since we had the court cases in the leadership contest we learned that actually the Labour Party is better than a private member's therefore the issues about what governs for example public centre bodies like my Labour authority having equality monitoring aren't so readily transparent in a body like the Labour Party now of course I've asked the question of what do we do in terms of monitoring and what have you seen to response which basically says that we do monitoring equality monitoring we've always done equality monitoring in a world of people joining the party and when you ask them how many people do we have where we've got data on we've got 40,000 people where we've got their monitoring data or 40,000 out of almost 600,000 members is obviously quite small so what we've said and what I've made clear is actually equality monitoring is a continuous exercise anybody that works in the public centre or any other institution where it is a requirement you know that this is a continuous exercise you're aiming for 100% monitoring data so you have a target and you hope to work towards that so what I've said to the party is well we can't push you to 100% to be so far behind at least set a target maybe with 80% target of data maybe we might get somewhere but the kind of thing that we've got now is monitoring because we rely on people to join in data and then we do nothing else to do so for example what we should be doing is anybody that comes in this conflict there should be quality monitoring data and then you keep doing it every single time so entirely possible we just need to educate a little bit in terms of how that is done I just want to say one thing about Bale's project because I think we really want to talk about Bale because often we want to pull the responsibility of some of the inaction that we've had on Bale Labour when actually Bale Labour is nothing but run by the Labour Party the Labour Party is responsible for the condition that Bale Labour is currently in and I said to you very clearly that my purpose of joining the LEC is to show that Jeremy has the support that he needs to transform the party it is not very good therefore that we've run an election under Jeremy's leadership that doesn't reflect the kind of ideals that we want directly the responsibility of the Labour Party and it's the Labour Party that I want to account for the failure of Bale Labour to be the kind of transformational body that we want it to be in actual form of the election there was over 3,000 Bale members however only 700 or so were eligible when we take off fire we must take off fire to the Labour Party and seek the kind of transformation within the party which is why the review is important the reviewer would help to basically deliver the kind of conditions that we want to see in terms of change but equally each and every one of us has a responsibility for equality and for race and therefore it's not just John about Bale organisations on the ground it's about everybody the committee essentially doesn't have any right to see either the membership list or the finances because you essentially have a completely powerless committee if you have an NECC if you ask you can do whatever you want so they can see this everybody up the committee itself it has to ask the Labour Party permission to access its Bale finances it has to ask the Labour Party permission to breed they really have got nothing but then to do that work it should be a organisation that's able to normalise these past results thank you very much for that clearly as a secret society we have to come to an end at least for me to find power to distinguish power