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Just use the code may special with no space for that discount. All right. Enjoy the podcast. Why you look so dark, Adam. I was in the sun like crazy this weekend.  Justin and I were talking outside. I was at the studio about a ton. My uh, you can't tell you got more freckles. Yeah. You got some color. I see a couple skin. Yeah. And you actually don't look red. You I mean, you're like my, my best friend. He's either white or red. He doesn't have a color. I tried not to get red. That was like my whole goal. So what is the secret though?  Yeah, I go 50 and I kind of grade it down based off of like how many times I've been going to the beach or wherever else I'm going. Like, yeah, like I eventually, I tan it takes the whole summer. Yeah. But by that point, I'm over it. Do you use the zinc oxide or the titanium oxide one? I'm not a dork. Yeah, I know. I use it on my face. Like I was using some estrogen and no, if you use that, if you use that, won't that like reflect and block the sun? You don't get any. Okay. There's two types of, uh, what are they called sunblock or whatever, or, you know, protect it. I didn't have my nerdy friend around. I didn't know. So the zinc oxide or titanium oxide ones are the ones that reflect the way. And then the chemical based ones are, they absorb and scatter the UV rays. Now the problem with the chemical based ones is those are all like Xeno estrogenic weird chemicals. My nipples are hurting a little. Yeah, they do. It might be it. Yeah, they do weird things to you, dude. All right. That explains a lot. The other stuff, although it makes you a little bit white because now they make it so that you get a little bit of white sheen, but it doesn't like, it's not like in the movies.  But you know, like I'm already white. Why are you going to make me glow? You know, like I'm already out there. Like, Hey, look at me.  Yeah. But the other stuff's bad, dude. It's bad for you, bro. And then it's bad for the, it's bad for the coral reef. You know that it's bad. It's bad for the ocean.  Were you? No, I was in a pool.   Well, like, Hey, some people are, yeah, I don't know, but you're going to have an awesome 10. Yeah. I mean, it's, you know, honestly, I could probably, I could probably not wear any kind of sunblock, but it would take a lot of like small doses. You just come out like 10 minutes. You have to go swimming. Oh, it's too much. You have to go swimming in a sweater and it's enough. Well, dude, my kids wear like those rash guards and like, it's so great that they have all that stuff they can swim with now. Like so, but they actually, they actually get like dark and, and, you know, they didn't get all of those genetics from me, which is good. Courtney, she's, she's also pretty fair. But her sisters are really tan. Really? Yeah. She's the oddball. When I go out in the summer, I have to put on, if I'm going to be out there for longer than a couple of hours, I have to put on something for the first one or two days. And then after that, nothing. And I could literally just lay on a rock all day.  And I'll come out. Okay. Did I ever show you the picture of when my son went to, he went to Italy with his mom and he, they took a picture of his foot because he was out in the sun all the time. And he's literally like, it is, we get so dark that you can't even tell that he's Italian. It looks like he's African or something. Super, super dark skin. Like that's how dark your skin gets that dark. As a kid, I was like that, you know, and I used to never wear sunscreen, ever. And I could just be out in the sun. I mean, we lived by a lake, right? So when I lived out by a Lake Dog Pedro, we were on the water like every day and it gets like 110 out there, you would scorch. And like sometime, I want to say like around high school time, I started getting like these like sun blotches, like almost like rashes. Oh, wow. And I couldn't do it anymore. Then that's actually when I started wearing sunscreen up into that point, I never wore it, never had a problem. And then all of a sudden as I started to get a little bit older, I started to get like this reaction where I get like a rash. So now I have to.  And then some places we're seeing when people were doing that, they saw a slight drop in skin cancers, but then they saw a rise in all other cancers because the chemicals, well known because of the lack of the vitamin D and the benefits of the sun. Yeah. And the reality is obviously you don't want to burn, burning's bad, but work your way slowly and then have your body build its natural. But it's, of course, as an individual variance, right? If you're, you know, like Irish or Scottish or whatever, there's going to be less of a tolerance. Well, wouldn't that be the most ideal key would be like if you had like a, you know, a two week straight of like really nice weather and sun that, you know, Justin would start just the first day 10 minutes out and then not be out. And then the next day, 15, 20 minutes out and not wear any sunscreen, but just slowly do that. That would be, that would probably be. Until I start smelling like bacon. Skin starts to bubble a little bit. Yeah, delicious. That's gross. I thought you would be more tan coming back from Vegas. No, we didn't do anything in the sun. Oh, really? No, we were going to actually not that hot. It was like in the 70s and it was a little windy. Oh, really? Oh, because he had like, you were in the 90s. Yeah, 90s. It was cooking. No, we were spending time mainly with family and oh man, I'd made a huge mistake. We, we, we, we stayed at a casino and I don't know why I didn't think this. This is like a totally just neither, neither Jessica nor I thought of this.  And so what do you do in the dark? Just chilling. I can't turn on the TV or anything. Yeah, just chilling on our phones like seven o'clock, night's over. Let's just relax. I tried to convince Katrina to put him in the closet. The last time we did that, she would go for it. Well, principle. We were in a Vegas hotel and we did the same thing. And I'm like, look how big that closet is. Yeah, look how big that closet is. We're not putting my son in the closet. We almost did that. I'm like, right? I think it's logical. Well, it prevented me from doing that. It's like a mini, it's a mini room. So we almost did that.  I know, that's the air situation. That's what she said. Maybe if we make a couple of holes in the tub. I was like, we'll leave it cracked. You know what I'm saying? No, we did. You know what we did is we put his like pack and play in the bathroom. But the problem was the bathroom had one of those like frosted glass doors. Yeah. It literally light up all. Yeah, dude. So we still, I mean it was a little better because at least he's in another room, but it's funny because he's next to the toilet. So seven. You guys at Red Rock? Was that where you guys were at? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the same situation. Yeah. So seven p.m. I'm like, okay, not only are we going to bed, but we're also can't use the bathroom because I can't go to the bathroom. What we did was we built, so we had the exact same issue at Red Rock last time we were there because then they had that the bathroom windows are hella bright. You turn them on and it lights the whole room up because it has the see-through door. So we actually, we took sheets and blankets over the pack and play. So once we put them down, we built it like a tent and just covered the sides and over the top. So I didn't think of that. Yeah. Yeah. That was our solution to that because we were the same thing.  Dude, we seven o'clock. Well, so the first night, so the first night, so I, you know, guys know that sleeping has been an issue, right? With my kid. I mean, generally everything else is good, but sleeping can be an issue, especially when you're traveling, you're trying to do the naps and the whole thing. Yeah, throws off routines out. And then it's just a nightmare, right? So anyway, the first night we're there, right?  Some girl is just laughing, whatever. And I can just feel Jessica start to fume. And I know I'm like, like I'm more like, I'll be a little bit more like, I'm not going to say anything. Let me just see.  So I'm like, oh my God, we can't, whatever. Anyway, so the next day she calls down the front desk and she's like, can you talk to room, whatever and tell them, please don't be noisy tonight. And they're like, no, we can't talk to them unless they're actually doing it in the moment. So she's like blasting the person hangs up. She's like, I'm going to go knock on the door. I'm like, oh my God, here we go. I'm like, all right. So we go over there and we talk to the guy. No, you guys didn't. Well, hey, you know, because she ain't going to not talk to them. And I'm not, you're like, at least let me go. This is going to be fun. Let me go mediate this a little bit. Well, you know, here's the thing. Rain her back a little bit. Here's the thing. I think a lot of, especially women don't understand. When men talk to other men and we're telling them like you're being loud, we always intensity. There's always a threat of violence, right? I don't think women understand this. So as the husband, I'm like, okay, like, I hope he reacts. Okay, because who knows what's going to happen. Anyway, guy answers the door. He's really cool. And he's like, hey, listen, I'm really, really sorry. First he goes, he opens the door and he goes, oh, I'm sorry about the smoke. And it's like smells like weed. And we're like, I don't care about that. That's fine. In fact, give me a hit. No, I'm like, whatever. That's not the problem. So she tells him, hey, can you keep it down? He goes, oh, don't worry. He goes, she's gone. She's not coming back tonight. It's all good. He's like, someone else will be here or whatever. And then he closes the door and he's cool. And she's like, that's kind of weird, but whatever. And I'm like, you do realize he's talking about a hooker, right? And she's like, what? I'm like, that's what he means. She's not coming back tonight. Yeah, he got a loud hooker last night. He's going to have a different one come tonight. More quiet one. Oh my God. I got reservations.  I gave her a bad star review on Yelp. Wow, dude. I wanted to just be like, oh, give him a tip.  Well, I got myself into a little bit of trouble. I went to Disneyland, so we. Oh yeah, how was that? Because it just opened back up, right? Yeah. So there was like a lot of positives to it and a lot of negatives all kind of smashed together. So it was interesting. It was a totally different experience. And I kind of knew that going into it because of everything they had to kind of adjust and make up for and figure out how to deal with all these restrictions and whatnot. And so first of all, Courtney had to be on the line for like 10 hours just to get reservations for this. That's crazy. Yeah.  And then it went off and she thought she lost the call and dropped it. Anyways, it was a whole debacle. But then we finally got like our way in. And so we get there. And it's like there's just stacks of cars once you get to the actual parking lot. It's just like, you know, one by one, they're kind of checking people in. And then so the security of it was really intense, which I kind of imagined it would be. And they do the whole like, you know, the temperature check and so yeah, and checking all your bags and stuff. So basically what they had to do was push everybody outside. So a lot of the rides that are like indoors, like they don't have you waiting in there, which was a totally different experience, it turns out.  There's, you know, whatever, you're out of the sun. That's true because they design them so that you don't, you're not just sitting there waiting, right? You're looking at stuff. So that's why I didn't even think of that. Yeah, you're looking at things like you kind of just passing the time, like kind of doing your thing. And so you're basically like, so for one of them was one of the Star Wars rides, we were out in like what seemed to be like a loading dock area. Like they just opened it back further. And we have to like follow these like taped lines and all this stuff. And then finally you make it there and you like rush to the very front. And so you're just like, boom, I'm on the ride. You know, and so kind of like, that was weird. Now were the weights longer or shorter? Because I'm assuming they have limited people, right? Shorter, yeah. It was like probably like 25% capacity or whatever. Oh, that's it. Yeah. It was, I mean, so that was a very much of a positive. We were like stuck. We got really tired because we were just like doing like a gajillion rides. And they closed it earlier, like at seven. So they don't want like any crowds forming or anything. So there was no fireworks. There was no like, you know, parades or nothing like that. But with the whole mask thing, I just couldn't do it, dude. Are you supposed to wear a mask outside while you're there? The whole time. Not even just the whole time. Like you have to wear it on the ride. Like I was like, dude, I'm like, fine, I can breathe. Dude, I can't tell you how many times like the minute it just slipped down my nose.  Really? Yeah.  You know, and we're waiting on Pirates of the Caribbean. We get in there and there's these two guys behind me.  You're not wearing a mask. They're talking.  You know, I'm just like, ooh, like what's happening? I get to the very front. This lady like lets me through. Everything's cool. Oh, great. I'm going to get on the ride. And then all of a sudden she like about faces, runs up to me and was like, hey, put your mask up over. And I'm like, what? Are you looking at me? Because it was over my nose the whole time. And like it's over my like, if I have to, if I have to tell you again, we have to warn you again, we're going to kick you out of the park. You're going to have to get off of this and leave. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What did you tell you? You said a big nose. Yeah, yeah. I tried to explain. You see this thing? Look at this thing. It's pushing out. Yeah. It's like, it doesn't fit. Yeah.  And I don't believe, you know. It sounds like a sandwich. You will get mad at me, dude. Like a G string mask.  He's wearing two small masks, one here and one here. Yeah. Maybe in the beginning when it, when we thought it was a Spanish flu, but yeah, let's go back and do some more research and realize the effectiveness. But anyway, so yeah, so I was just like, like appalled because I've never had that experience at Disneyland.  And like, and I don't know if a lot of them had to be because they're forced to like, you know, demand like all these things because they've probably felt like they're going to have to close it down again. Well, you know what happened if they don't.  Right. Well, you got to, I got to wonder, I wonder if the Disney world experience in Florida is different than the Disneyland experience in California because of course they're, they're kind of two different approaches, right? It might be. I honestly, I heard actually the opposite. I heard it's like just as crazy. Really? Oh, really? Yeah. They're just as Nazi about it. Because I thought Florida was all wide open. Isn't it? Well, I know the state is, but that's, that's its own like enterprise. Yeah. Because I know here it's obviously been much more strict with all that stuff. And I'm assuming that they're afraid, right? Like, oh crap, they're going to close us down. Yeah. If somebody takes a picture of people with not wearing masks or whatever and we're going to lose our jobs. I swear to God, I got on the list though, dude, because I was like walking around the whole rest of the time and then I'd see somebody like at your piece and like everybody's like glasses looking at me. You know, maybe I was just paranoid, but I started to see it everywhere.  I did that. Sorry, I have a lugi. I can't spit in my mouth.  I did that all the time. I would use that opportunity to drink so I could just bring it down. I was like, because you got it, Matt. So we got there at eight o'clock and we went all the way till basically seven o'clock and to wear a mask. It's hot outside too. And it was hot and they kept pushing us outside. I have a hard time in the grocery store for 20 minutes. Yeah. And this is 20 minutes in the grocery store is like, oh, that's enough. And it was insane. This is real talk, by the way, because we were at the casino. And so you're wearing it the whole time you're in there. And then I even did one workout in their hotel gym where you wear a mask. And it is a little bit, and I don't know if it's psychological or if I'm actually feeling the fact that maybe I'm breathing in a little bit more of my carbon, no, my carbon dioxide. My health felt like it was going down. You think it's psychological.  It's like, yeah. It makes me not comfortable. My kids have to wear one all day at school and I kind of feel like bad. They do. I feel bad. All day they have to wear it at school. So I'm like, oh, man, this is kind of... If you're not used to it, it definitely feels... Wow. You definitely feel suffocated, you know? Yeah, on the positive side of all this mask-wearing COVID bullshit, I've been reading like, it's really interesting to me to see what businesses have either evolved or changed or that are popped up during this time. I came across this one that I thought, I think it was like Tech Crunch, I don't remember what I was reading, but it's an app called Swimply. Swim and then PLY, Doug. Check this thing out. So this guy starts this business.  It's so brilliant that it makes me actually want to look at it as like an... What's a funny name though, huh? Swimply? Yeah, I think I'm saying... Hey, Swimply! I think I'm saying it right. So basically what you can do is rent people's pools. Oh, I saw this. Yeah, isn't it? And there's people making six figures a year off of renting their pool right now. And this like... Wow, look at that. It's like $45 an hour, $100. $30 an hour. Yes. I mean, it makes sense. It's brilliant. Yeah, it makes sense. Imagine, too, if you have a second home, right? That's like a vacation place that you're not there 90% of the time, but you lock up the house. Yes, I would totally do that.  But my pool outside?  I wonder what the... Rent that out? So like... So no, so this is... So it comes with the app. So they have a million dollar policy. So if someone were to get hurt doing this, they cover all that. That's brilliant. Yeah, no, it's... And it's really... Obviously, COVID just made it take off. So he was starting... Because all the pools are closed. Right, he was starting it beforehand. And then that's just it, right? This is where you could come with your people that you've already been quarantining with and rent these pool spaces. And so as cheap as like 20 bucks an hour for like a real basic where someone's got these crazy... Now, when people pay for this, are they also paying a deposit in case one of their kids shits in the pool or does something weird? I don't know. I didn't look it up. I would imagine there's some sort of like a deposit like that, I'm sure. Yeah, because if that happens, then you're... And or I'm sure part of the... Probably shitting the pool. I'm sure there's... I'm sure there's also some sort of a cleaning service that probably comes through more regularly if you're getting that many people coming through your place. I would imagine. I just thought that was so fascinating. That is a very interesting... Well, if you think about it with all these apps, these sharing, kind of the sharing economy or whatever the... What do they call it? This digital economy. I mean, anything that you can rent is going to be... Gig economy. Rented out gig economy, thank you. Well, it goes back to that conversation we had earlier. Do you believe that we're moving in this direction where ownership is going to be a thing of the past? I think of some things you're going to own. Some things, yeah. Yeah. I mean, to me, that's a little scary thought. Who else is going to own it then? Well, okay. Well, there'll be investors. There'll be people that own... For example, like this, anybody... I don't know if you guys ever looked into putting a pool in your backyard.  You're going to get a maintenance. And then maintaining. So you're talking about like a minimum $30,000 to $100,000 project for just to building it, going and then the maintenance. And if you... I guarantee anybody listening right now who has a pool in their backyard and you actually tracked for one year, how many times do you and your family... Did the math.  No. But especially at the rate where you can go... And then you can go to this pool that's probably 10 times better at somebody else's house right down the street for 60 bucks an hour. Well, it just seems like business is more moving into situations like that, like single-home family things where it's like, how do we maximize all these spaces? And we can... You can come in and eat fresh cooked meal and there's ways to maximize and monetize whatever you have. Why not rent just somebody's backyard? So even forget the pool. Let's say you don't have a pool, but you have one of those really nice setups with the barbecue and where people... Have barbecues... I imagine that's how... So I mean, if you looked at the app when Doug pulled it up, there was ones ranging from my 20-something bucks to a 100-something an hour. That probably include all that. Exactly. Yeah. So if you have like a cabetta out there... Well, so let's speculate. What are the things that you guys think that at the moment, if you use it, you own it, but in the future, it's probably going to be very different? Obviously cars. Cars, yeah. Cars is a bit... That's the most obvious one. I don't see anybody when AI cars or whatever self-driving cars become widely accepted and regulations allow them to happen. I don't see people generally owning cars. It's just not going to make any sense. I do, but I see them owning on my horses. That's what I mean. Yeah, you won't see people driving them to and from work. I think that type of deal will be... Well, think about how many people own horses today versus how many people own horses over 15 years ago. Yeah, no, totally. So it'll be like that. So cars... Is there anything else you guys want? I think just houses in general. Like if you want to throw a party or you want to use it for... The backyard, whatever it is. The pool obviously, but lots of different ways that people could use a house for weddings or whatever. That's true, right? Like all the stuff that we tend to rent anyway right now, like halls, right? Think about all the halls that people rent or the restaurants that people rent. That can be replaced by some of these people's nice homes and stuff. Yeah, parking lots. As far as owning is concerned, I'm trying to think though. I could...  So that's a thing. Suits, do you guys think suits? We'll start to become... Oh, I think they already have that. Really? That exists, doesn't it? Yeah, I know businesses, but I mean more like a sharing app. What's your size or whatever can I borrow your... Oh, I bet there's something out there like that. There probably is, I would imagine. Yeah, I can't... But what about home gyms? Did you guys see people renting out home gyms? That's out, yeah. That's a thing already too. Yeah, that could totally be... That's people are doing that. People that have these home gyms are renting out, or started doing that. That's another business that popped up during COVID. I don't remember what the app was called, but people are renting out their gym space.  Wow, that's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I know you're seeing it all over the place. I like it because it allows... It's a very efficient way of using space. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think it makes a lot of logical sense. I'm on the other end of that though, I don't want anybody near me. So I was like, dude, no. None of these ideas like resonate with me.   I don't want to share. No, I don't want to share. Sharing is for you. Well, there'll still be like you're saying that there's obviously still going to be somebody who owns it, right? So some people will still be able to buy and invest in it. But I think it won't make sense for the average person. I mean, especially when we talk about houses and stuff, even like housing. I mean, it was so popular when we were younger and the generation before us, when I was talking to a realtor over the weekend about this, who was like in his late 50s, and he's talking about how I'm just... We were talking about the market and current where we were at and stuff, and he's just like, yeah, I was just... I was like, man, it must be great to be a realtor right now. He goes, yeah, it's kind of a double-edged sword, right? I mean, it's great for business, but I have kids in their 20s and early 30s, and he goes, I just... I can't see them ever affording a house anywhere out here. I mean, you got to have 20% down on a property in the Bay Area. You're talking a quarter to a half a million. It's insane.  I mean... No one. In a 10 years. And all of a sudden, you had Dodgecoin or one of those things went off. Well, and when I was telling him, I said, you know, but part of that is we always have painted this picture for the kids and the generation coming up that part of the American dream is to buy your home. That's like the part of the formula. Yeah, that's one of the biggest parts, right? It's like one of the biggest accomplishments most people have in their lifetime, right? And so I think we're moving away from that. I think we're moving away from that being as big of a deal. Even myself, it was watching that transition happen and struggling with that too, thinking like, what, you know... There's a lot of scene to think about that too because you look at the layout of homes and how that's changed over the years too. Like, so we've been like kind of house shopping, looking at different types of like, if one was in the 70s, if one was even like earlier than that, like, there's just the way that people live was so different. Like the importance of like where the master bedroom was, is like where the kitchen is, how the layout of it is, if it's open, you know, what kind of situation was it? And I feel like we're going through another phase of that where people are just like maybe more open to living, you know, somewhat temporary in one spot, but also having another location where they can kind of split time between... You know, the biggest difference I see between the newer houses and the older ones, the biggest difference by far is the backyard. By far, but backyards now are tiny, even in expensive, really expensive homes. They leave such a small space for the backyard whereas the older houses, the backyards were all pretty, you know, pretty big. Oh, I think a lot of that's just because of the... I mean, we live in the Bay Area and there's no land. It was even like that. Yeah. So we were in Vegas, and by the way, everywhere prices of houses are going up. This is part of the inflation that's happening. In fact, who was it? Who's the investor, the big investor? Did you get Warren Buffett? Did you guys watch that? I read about it. So I read about what he said. And he's like, inflation's already here, it's happening, it's accelerating. And a big... You're seeing a lot of law and houses for a couple of different reasons. One, inventory is still low because all the houses that are supposed to foreclose aren't. And then number two, the building supplies are through the roof. Like a sheet of plywood is like three times as expensive. So can you explain to me... One of my friends was trying to argue to me that they had disproven that inflation could happen right now. That's so silly to me. I know. I can just like... My brain hurts so much that I couldn't even come back with a good response. It's very simple. It's very straightforward. It's very simple. There's more money that's not tied to actual production, services or whatever. So if there's just more money, everything becomes more expensive. But this is a real philosophy and thought that's floating around. So to make it simple, if we gave every single person in America $1 million right now, if all of a sudden the government just gave everybody a million dollar check, all prices would go through the roof. Everything. Of all the things that people are competing in using their money to purchase. So it wouldn't help anybody. But I was even... In Vegas we're looking and the houses there are going up quite a bit. Doesn't even come close to here though. I was looking at houses over there that were like 1.2, 1.3. Holy cow. Oh yeah. Yeah, you're looking... I mean, these places, compared to what you get over here for that was just insane. Insanely different. Yeah, no, it's crazy for sure. I mean, you see my uncle's backyard is coming together over there. Haven't you seen pictures of it yet? Oh yeah, dude, it looks crazy.  He's got a nightclub back there, huh?  I mean, he's jumped that much. But he had a huge lot. You saw his backyard. That thing is like massive. And there are about three quarters of the way through. I think it's supposed to be done by next month. And it looks like a casino pool area. Hey, when you go to Vegas, do you still gamble at all? Or do you just go visit and then...? This last time, I did not gamble. I went there and I visited my uncle and then we did business and stuff like that. So there was no gambling.  I like to gamble in Reno more than I like to gamble in Vegas. Aren't you like you win more in Reno? Well, I'm also like... Aren't the machines and stuff? In Reno, I'm like a medium-sized fish to a big fish. Yeah, yeah. In Vegas, I'm like... I've told that story. Did I tell that story? Yo, I got 100 bucks. Did I tell that story at Vegas? Where's my room comp? So I was... This was like during a heavy gambling streak for me where I was gambling a lot. And I had just gone on like a few runs of Reno going out to Reno. And there I go to Reno and I have the top suite. I get the limo, take me to lunch and all this stuff like that. And this ain't like I don't have to be balling. Like I'm gambling $3,000 to $5,000 a night on the table. It's not crazy. And then I go to Vegas, right? And the tables are already like double, right? They give you free bottle of water?   But I'm like...  They'll take care of my dinner now. They'll take care of this room. And I start, I'm like, yeah, it's kind of a wash, you know what I'm saying? So I can... Yeah, what kind of dinner are you ordering? Yeah, yeah. So, well, I go over to Vegas and that guy like laughed at me. He's just... I was like, hey, can I wanted... I got a... You know, I can't remember what kind of room I had at that point. I said, hey, I just... Man, I just got creamed. I lost all this money and stuff like that. I was like, okay, you know, is it possible you guys could upgrade me?  I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm sorry, sir. Wow. Yeah, yeah, I can't even get... You're not even a blip on that. Yeah, I can't even get like a $300 upgrade to my room after dropping that much. And then Vegas, they don't give it. You're nobody there. No. So I like to... I like to gamble. There's high rollers over there. Big money. For that reason. I did what I always do. I always do the same thing. I'll take 20 bucks. It's what I do. I take 20, because I hate gambling. I'm not a gambler. I don't like... If I lose a dollar... For the 25 cent slot machines. That's exactly what I did. I went up to it, I felt the one that was calling me. Wheel of fortune. No, there was one that made the...   The exact same sound that's on our clock. What is it? Doug, it's like a Falcon. It's a red tail hawk. Red tail hawk, okay. So I hear that sound. So I'm always like, that's a sign. It's a sign. It's a winning sound. Yeah, so I'm walking over. I like this strategy. Yeah, I'm trying to find the machine. And I'm like, ah, it's this one, right? So I put my 20 bucks in there. 80 bucks. No way. Every time. Every time I come out positive. Casinos hate me. Good for you. Yeah, they hate me. Yeah, that's big money. Well, it doesn't matter. I never give them money because if the second I win, even if it's a dollar, I take my money.  The norm is that you just keep gambling. That's how they always win. I mean, statistically it should be a 50-50 shot both for the gambler and for the casino, but the truth is. It's so funny, though. It's got to keep you there. To walk through a casino and then see people having to wear masks because of protecting their health.  Put it down to smoke. Chain smoking. Chain smoking the whole time. I'm walking through and I'm like, irony is totally missed on them. Yeah, none of this stuff is adding up to me. Hey, I want to make sure that we take this time to shout out some of the fire stations. Dude, have you guys been getting the DMs yet? Yes. Have you? Yeah. Doug, what are some of you? That's so cool. Read off some of the people that are listening right now. Yeah, we got Christopher Rhodes, St. Joseph, Missouri Firehouse. Woo-hoo! Station 4, Hoover Fire Department in Alabama. What up? The Marine Corps Mountain Warfare Training Center Fire Department in Bridgeport, California. Sounds badass. And this one is the police officer Carlisle Barracks in Pennsylvania. Oh. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for doing what you do. Definitely appreciate all of you guys and girls. I forgot that we brought that up the other day and I started getting all these DMs of stations that we're all listening. So that's pretty cool. That's awesome. I ran into a couple, what made me think of that too was I was, this weekend I was coming out of Target.  And out in the middle of nowhere in this parking lot is this fire truck. Have you guys seen the new fire trucks that are out? No. So it's a German-made truck and it looks like a transformer. Pull it up. This thing's sick. Yeah. So I go into Target and I go shopping. There's a joke here somewhere. I go walking. I come walking out and at the same time I almost ran into like these German helmets too. These three firefighters. I don't know. Okay. And they were talking as we were walking up. I said, is that your fire truck out there? And they're like, I sure hope it is. I was like, okay, that was a good one. They were wearing... Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. It was like one of those.  Oh, hey, you guys firefighters? They gave me a tour. No, I just dressed like that.  So I mean, how do you start that conversation up anyway? You know what I'm saying? I know, it's tough. Right, right. It's like when you walk up to twins here, you guys twins. Yeah. Fire truck? You pulled it up. Judd, look at the new fire truck. German-made fire truck. Yeah, I see a lot of different things here. Let me... It looks like a transformer. You can't miss it. Well, I don't know. Let's see. Is this any of them here? No, no, no. Those look weird. Yeah. Hold on.  I know. Let's all do this. I'd say new. I would put new in front of that, by the way. I wouldn't just say German. Because for all I know, they've been making them for a while. This is in San Jose? Well, your Pima cars are typically like a bit smaller, I would think. It wasn't small, though, this thing. And by the way, I even asked how much they cost, right? Oh, look at that one. 700 grand for one of those things. Is it this one right here? It's crazy. Look at it. I'll send it to Doug if that's it. Yes. Say, of course, stop. Gee, come on, Doug. What are you doing? Step your game up over there, guy. Google fingers over here. I know, dude. Yeah, let's get the Google thumb. Yeah. Isn't that thing bad-ass, though? It is. Let me send it to Doug right now so he can pull it up on the screen. You know what's funny? I didn't know that Googling was a skill until you guys told me that. I had no idea. Of course it is. But apparently, it's a skill. Oh, yeah. No, was it Jamie with Joe Rogan's show? Like, he'll anticipate. It's crazy, like, some of the stuff that is already pulled out. You're like, what? How do you even find that? Like, all these fact-checking- Your problem, Doug, is how you're searching there. If you typed in German-made firetrucks transformers, you'll never find it that way. Just put new firetruck marina. Because that's what we got. Marina. I sent you the picture, so you just pull it up here. Yeah, I got it. You sent it to me, but you didn't send me the link where you found it. Just post the picture. Well, yeah, I have to change everything. Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm good at it. You make my life complicated here, guys. Hey, by the way, I don't even use Google. I use DuckDuckGo now. Oh, you do? Me too. I do. Yeah. Really? Yeah, because Google tracks everything. Do you have to change that in your browser to go to that? Or do you- Yeah. Okay, so. Yeah, so that's my automatic search now. And it's just as good. Just as good. I mean, it's good. There it is, Justin. Look how cool that thing is. It does look German, doesn't it? It's very, yeah, some crazy lines on that thing. So what does it do different? Does it just look cool? Yeah, just, I mean, it's got more space in it, and it has all the cool monitors and gadgets and beefy for sure.  I would ask them. What does it do differently than the normal? He didn't say, I mean- It goes faster. It goes faster. Yeah, yeah, fast cannon.  Does it sound different? You know what, I don't get V12. Well, no, no. What I mean is, have you guys ever heard of, like, heard ambulances and stuff in Europe? They don't sound like they're here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, no. Or like police.  I know I'm going to offend people, but the police cars over there just sound weak. They don't sound scary. American cop cars, that's scary. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Probably because they'll shoot you over here.   This is true.   Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they definitely have different siren noises. They're like, meaner, meaner, meaner, meaner. I'm not going to take that seriously. I'll just keep driving. Meaner, meaner, meaner. Come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they have the ones over there.  I've seen that before, and that to me just screams bureaucracy. You know what I mean? Like, the state has all this money. Oh, yeah.  This is where your taxpayer money's going. Yeah. Cool. You guys want a Lambo? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Although there was a, where was it? There was a town here in the U.S. where the SWAT team got like a tank. Wow. Yeah, like a legit tank. I'm like, holy shit, what do you need that for? Like, you could like shoot things out of it and everything. Or just like, would mow through buildings. I don't know if it was low. Like if it had a cannon on it at work, but I think it was like that. Damn.  Oh, I got another cool thing for you. I think Justin would really like this. Doug, here you go. Let's see if we can, here's another layup for you, Doug. Yeah. Look up Raiders End Zone, okay? The new Raiders End Zone. I saw this. Is a night club. Oh, I drove by the Raiders. Is it sick? Yeah.  I know. I love it. And they've now designed night clubs at the end of the end, at the end zone. Yeah. So they have like bottle, bottle table service. Okay. Yeah. See if they, see if Doug can find something. There's like sections of it where you could have like private party. Straight, right in the end zone. See there's a DJ right there.  Well, that's smart. And bottle service out. Brilliant. That's very smart. As long as they have like, yeah. Plastic stuff. Instead of like, you know, like actual bottles. Let's see Raiders Game. That would be a bad idea. A Raiders game with two night clubs in the stadium. What could go wrong? Serving alcohol. Yeah. Huh. Yeah. Huh. You get those guys with the shoulder spikes and painted faces. Yeah.  Oh, they're the crazies. Yeah. Well, that was also when it was in Oakland. Maybe it's a little bit different in Vegas. I mean, they're hardcore, bro. They'll drive to Vegas. I think they'll drive. Yeah. I think they'll make it there. Wow. Tell me that is not sick. That is very, that is awesome. That's awesome. Right? I tell you guys about the one NFL game I went to when I was younger. I went to one. What? Yeah. I went to a Seahawks versus, it was Raiders versus Seahawks. Wow. And I was like, I'm never doing this again. I saw this dude. He was dressed in a Seahawks garb. Oh, in a Raider game?  I've seen the same. I went to Raiders, the Niner games like when I was a kid and just saw people get beat up in the parking lot and just for not wearing the right, you know, like colors and it's just like, dude, what the, what are you doing? It's not even a game. No, that kind of stuff pisses me off. Yeah. It's only there that I've had that experience too. I mean, I've been to a lot of stadiums and been watching, been the opposing team, but like the Raiders are the only place that has them. We've had beer thrown at us and stuff.  So what do you think that is? Obviously, there's a psychological, super tribal. Yeah, it's like your primal life. It's no different than what we see in politics and everything else today. It's like it's the same monster.  My team's better than yours. Like that was not just my team is better than yours, but because you're on another team. That's right. What do you see? And what do you see with politics? Right? You know, like you're, you're not a part of my team.  It's got to that player. They have, they, they're the extreme example. Well, speaking of drinks, did you guys do any drinking or partying this weekend? Yeah. So, I mean, I did the story as like some people saw for when I went down to my place in Palm Desert and it was Cinco de Mayo that day. And so it was just like, yeah. I was like, okay, it's Cinco. I didn't realize it. And we tried hard to get it at this one, like our favorite Mexican place. Did you remember the magic juice or what? Did you bring it with you? Yeah. So I had to go back. That's what I'm going to call for now.  I forgot it. And I had it in my suitcase and like, we were thankful. You could walk across the street to this place. I don't have to drive. Nothing. I'm like, oh dude, it's going to be on. Like I'm probably going to drink a lot. So I decided to just get up out of like sitting there waiting for my order and just went and got like me and Courtney and her sister, Zebiotic's ahead of time. Thank God. Because dude, yeah, we went hard. We went hard that night. Because they gave us like, everybody was so celebratory that night. And like they had like this whole mariachi band. They had one of the hostesses there was like singing with them and like they're going around tables. It was like a really fun vibe. But like, yeah, somebody bought us shots. So it just got kind of wild. Makes a huge difference. Yeah, it got wild. You just don't feel this. After you try it once. We'll go out the next day. I was okay. I'll never drink without Zebiotic's.  But I don't like magic juice. That sounds dirty. Yeah, that doesn't sound good. I don't want to tell somebody. Hey, especially if it comes from a wizard. Yeah, I don't want to say, hey, do you want to? I want your wizard magic juice.  Or would you like magic juice afterwards?  I mean, yeah, just for sure. It's my magic Johnson. Like what kind of magic juice? Either that or that's like Adam Stripper name when he comes out. And welcome to the stage, magic juice. Yeah, yeah, look out. Oh my God. Juice me. Well, hey, you know, speaking of that, we just, so this is a good time to have this come to Jesus talk here. Oh man. We got serious all of a sudden. Yeah, no, me, Doug and Justin have been talking. And I think we, you know, I don't know how to do this, the best way to sit down and talk to you. So wait till we're on the live podcast. Yeah, I just dress something. I just feel like it's important. We're all, we're all that kind of close. I think I feel like that we were built a relationship with our audience. I think the setups getting me nervous. Yeah, this is an okay place to do this. All right. But we need to, we need to talk to you about this hip thrust thing. It's really gotten out of control. Oh, when I do hip thrust. Does it make you uncomfortable? I'm worried for your wife. You're complaining a little bit about your back. Like I just, you know, that kind of power. I don't know if you can wield it properly. You're doing it a lot lately. And you know why I do it a lot?  You have. I know you've seen it because I see you looking at me. He's the one that slaps it. Justin looks away because he's uncomfortable. No. My butt is looking really round and firm. No, here's the truth. I like the way it contributes to my squats and my deadlifts. And here in my back, I did hurt it. Not lifting weights, which, you know, I don't know if that's a, if that's a. I think that's what Justin's concerned about that. You're getting a lot more hip, hip thrust power. I don't know if that's going to help this situation. What's so ever. No, I went, I went lighter today. Your power comes from your responsibility. Yeah. You guys saw, I went a little lighter today. Yeah. But I do feel like you're hip thrust in a lot now. Too much. Yeah. Too much for our friendship. Just too much. Yeah. I feel like you would tell me if I was doing it that much. You know what I'm saying? I pulled the sweats down a little bit. Just so you can see the root. I look at Justin and go, hey, he's starting to like those way too much, man. Way too much. You can almost see the V thing. Justin, jump on. I need more resistance. Where should I sit? Right here. No, thanks. Have a seat. Have a seat. I'm going to go faster. Find somebody else. I'm going to speed this up. You guys need to do more of them. I'm telling you, oh, no, everybody needs to do more of them. You're enough for this, Jim. You're enough for it. You've used all of our thrusting power in here. I know, forever. Actually, it felt like today because I still, my QL still is not 100%. They actually, it seems to help a little bit. So we'll see what happens. But yeah, I still got that QL issue. I don't know. Still hasn't gone away. Yeah, it's a little better. Get back into windmills and get more into that. Where's your weight at right now? What do you weigh? I'm dropping now. Are you? Yeah. I was going to ask you. I'm cutting calories quite a bit. And I did a deload week last week. And this week, I'm now changing up. I'm going to increase the frequency of my training but reduce the volume. So I'm going to work out each body part more often with less volume to see what happens. But I've cut my calories. I'm fully in now. I'm getting just really lean. So that means that I'm accepting the fact that I'm not going to be as strong or whatever. You know when you make that switch? Yeah. When you're like, okay, with the fact that you're just not going to be strong. Yeah, I made that with, we made a pact, even after this vacation thing. And yeah, so I'm on finally. We made a pact. Me is me and Courtney because she... Who starts that conversation? Me, dude. Really? Yes.  Both of us. Tell me how that goes over. I don't necessarily present like that. Hey, babe, I'm going to start losing weight. What do you think? Yeah, exactly. Like I just really think I want to get after it.  So I just want to feel better. Like really it's more of a feeling better thing in the health aspect of it, but I'm also trying to, you know, shred down. Yeah. Let's get after it. Yeah, I'd love to see it shredded just. Shred. That's scary. Makes that sound. Ready. Hey, the Q&A portion of this episode is brought to you by our sponsor, Blue Chew. Look, we all love a nice massive pump when we're working out. But what if the pump down below just isn't delivering? What if your performance is down? What if it's anxiety or stress or maybe something health related? Modern medicine actually can provide you with a solution that will improve your quality of life. So Blue Chew is a company, it's an online service that delivers the same active ingredients as Viagra and Cialis to your door. It's actually a pretty cool service. You go to their website, which is BlueChew.com. You talk to an online consultant. If they figure out that, if you guys figure out that this works out for you, they will mail it right to your door. 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For example, you could do exercises where you're stabilizing and then there's other exercise that actually work the abdominals through flexion and extension. But let's talk about aesthetics. I think that's an easier question to answer because the other one is so individual, right? When it comes to aesthetics, what you want to do is you actually want to build the abs because they're muscle like anything else, right? All of your muscles look better as you build them. Of course, to an extent, right? At some point, which is never almost never happens, your muscle gets too big. That almost never happens. So pretty much when you're talking about aesthetics, what you want to do is develop the muscle. How do you develop a muscle most effectively? Through a full range of motion and with load, right? So one of my favorite exercises to do for abs is like a slow sit-up or a Roman chair sit-up with resistance or a leg raise done properly. All of those include a decent amount of resistance. You have to be able to do them properly, but they build the abs. They're makes them more visible.  Well, I totally would echo that. The first thing I want to point out, though, is to be able to make that connection and to be able to feel your abs actually being involved more so than, say, hip flexors and really just going through the range of motion and going through these exercises without the proper intent and the proper mind-muscle connection. So to really take your time developing that, that strong recruitment process is massively essential for then loading that situation. Well, I couldn't agree more because the best ab exercise is no longer the best ab exercise if you cannot perform it correctly. So that comes first. And believe it or not, a lot of people actually- Most people get it wrong. Yeah, are not connected to the- Well, look at leg raises. How many people do you see do leg raises properly? Right. That's super, super rare. We have to understand what the abs do, right? So the abs attach at the rib cage, so think of your rib cage, the bottom of the rib cage and the pelvis. And when they contract, it brings the pelvis closer to the rib cage. So literally it's rounding the lower back.  So if I'm hanging and I just bend my legs, you know, like this, if I just do a leg raise or my legs bend, that's hip flexors. Now my abs are bracing and stabilizing, so I may also feel it my abs. But I'm not working my abs through a full range of motion. In order to do a leg raise where you're working the abs, you don't just bring the legs up by bending at the hips.  And so you're kind of doing this kind of reverse crunch with your- with a long lever, right? With your legs extended. It's not the abs don't bend you at the hips. And this is the problem. People think if they're bending forward or bringing their legs back, that's abs. Not true. That can be very much just hip flexors and no abs at all or just to stabilize. So I mean, going back to what Justin and you both said, I think that the pre-rec or the first thing is to get really good at it. So I love like a perfect setup and learning how to like, you know, articulate every vertebrae, right? Like really slow and controlled. Like get that down really well with just your body weight. Then when you get that connection, you understand, oh, okay, this is how I'm supposed to be doing every ab exercise, right? Because that's what you understand is that when you do that perfect setup and you try and roll the spine up off the ground like that, that's how every ab exercise should be performed no matter whether you're in a machine or hanging or whatever. And then it doesn't take a lot of reps. No, you know, it doesn't even take a lot of added weight. No, it's really intense. Oh, it's your body weight is tough to do 10 reps like that. I mean, that's really, really tough. But then you get good at that and then you load it. And I think that's probably one of the most underrated thing for abs. I think abs were taught. I mean, as a trainer, I did this. I taught abs, you know, circuits.  Yeah, like, because they can take, they can take a beating like that. But if you actually feel them burn, right? And you'll feel the burning sensations.  I'll get sore from it. But if you actually learn how to really articulate the spine like that and then load it with some weight for five reps, well, you'll watch, you'll watch your abs. Well, it's a muscle like any of the muscle. So imagine now we're talking about biceps. Forget abs for a second. So we're talking about biceps. What if you were like, hey, look, I want my biceps to look really good. I would like nice shape and in sculpt and I'd like really nice biceps. And your trainer goes, cool. Here's what we're going to do. Five pound dumbbells and you're going to go like this real fast. And then you're going to move your hands like this real fast. And then you're going to bring them up here real fast.  In commercials like that.  That's what people do for their abs. And there's nothing wrong with that. If you want a lot of stamina and endurance in your abs, that's nothing. Okay, that's cool. But if you want to develop them and develop good aesthetics, which come from abs that are built, then you want to train them like any other muscle with some load and resistance. And this doesn't have to be weight, by the way. I'll tell you what, one of my favorite things to do was whenever I got a client, when I was a trainer, and I had a client with workout experience. So usually clients came to me and they were everyday average people, not a ton of workout experience. But every once in a while, I'd get the guy or girl that would hire me that's been working out for a while. And especially once I got more established. As I got more established, I had more experienced people seek me out because I developed a name for myself. So as people would hire me, they'd been working out for a while and I would do my assessment and they would say things like, oh yeah, I work out my abs three days a week and I'm really strong on my core or whatever. And they'd say, okay, cool. We're going to do a physio ball crunch. We're going to just do a sit-up on a physio ball. Oh, I could do like a million of those. I'd be like, well, we're going to do it. I'm going to make sure you do them right.  They wouldn't be able to do more than 10 because they never really trained through that full range of motion and really trained the abs the way that they need to be worked. They're compensating the whole time. They don't even realize it.  But really I have like two, I have like three maybe like go twos and it's like you mentioned with the perfect sit up, it's a decline sit up and then it's like hanging raises and that's about it. I like the ab wheel, which is very hard to do properly, very hard to do properly. By the way, we carry those now at our store. Didn't you just do a Friday fitness tip on that? I did. So I think what is it, mindpumpstore.com? Is that okay? So we have them now, but ab wheels will build your abs. If you can do them properly, it takes a while to get to do them properly. But that's one of my favorites. I love active planks. Active planks are also very hard to do properly. We have a YouTube where I demonstrate those. So that's a good one. And then reverse crunch or reverse crunch on an incline, which is easier than a leg raise, but still very challenging. Hanging leg raises are one of the hardest exercises to do properly without using your hip flexes. I don't know very many people that can do them properly really intentional. Next question is from Howie's mom. What is the benefit of doing an exercise, sitting versus standing? Oh yeah, this is a great conversation because you see bodybuilders often will talk about doing things seated because they say things like they could feel the muscle more. They can concentrate more on the connection. Then you hear like functional trainers and athletes talk about doing things standing because of the stability component, because they're engaging more of their body. Okay, which one is better? This is going to be one of the situations where I'm going to say they're both good. They both have their value. Training, standing or training seated trains different recruitment patterns. Now, you can work the biceps both ways, but there's a recruitment pattern that is involved with the whole body. And here's what ends up happening. This is the funny thing. I remember when I used to think doing an overhead press standing was harder, for example, than a seated overhead press. I thought, oh yeah, you're not going to be able to lift as much standing as you can seated. And that's because I always did them seated. Then I did them always standing. In fact, I almost always do overhead press standing. Now I can press more standing than I can seated. And all the highlights is, you get good at one versus the other one. Which you do the most of. Yeah, but they both have their value. I mean, I toggle just how I feel, right? So because I think they both have value, it's like some days I'm in like Mr. Functional mode. And everything I'm doing is like standing or challenging stability. And that's the goal of the workout of the day, right? It's like, oh, today I want to just be really functional. And I love to do stuff like that when I know certain muscle groups are really, really sore and I don't need to hammer a muscle group. I want to feel good. I want to take things through full range of motion. I want to incorporate my entire body. So then I'll make those choices. Then I have other days where I'm like, oh, I just want this massive shoulder pump and I'm not really trying to work at any other parts of my body right now. And I'm just going to sit down and do all this stuff. And so I bounce back and forth.  I'm like, nobody's sitting down. We're working.  We're using your body. You're anchoring your body. You're figuring out how to adjust and compensate for that and be able to stabilize properly. So I was just always thinking in the functional realm and less in the hypertrophy realm. And so there's definitely a switch that happened for me once I started to kind of then, again, like you said, I went into sitting and doing overhead press even as an example. And I couldn't lift what I thought I could lift. And it was really just a different stimulus and different recruitment pattern that I wasn't applying. And so there's definite value in that. The truth is though, if you were to only do one and not the other. If you had to pick. Yeah, if you had to pick. Oh yeah. Standing. Standing. Because more carryover.  Meaning for my clients, I was always what I was saying.  You just won't. If you will, I'll wait. Tell me, where would you do that?  But there may be lots of times in your life where you have to pick something up while you're standing on the ground and lifted over your head. Even playing with my son, I do that all the time. So it's just way more functional to be, like you said, completely connected from your feet all the way. If you had to pick. Yeah, if you had to pick. But a perfect scenario, you incorporate both. Weave in and out. Yeah, both of them have value. I like doing both of them, like Adam said, depending on how I feel. If you had to pick one, go standing. But look, there's a reason why when you do a different exercise that look very similar, they feel different. There's just a reason for it. I mean, look, I'll tell you what. You could do a standing lateral, right? Standing lateral with dumbbells. Or you could do standing one arm lateral. Same exercise feels different. It totally does feel different. And they both have value. And that has to do with the way the body communicates with itself and how muscles work together. No muscle works in complete isolation. And so it's the combination of muscles. It's how you're holding yourself. It's the position of your body. Look at a z-press, seated z-press. I mean, that feels very different than a seated on a bench press. Definitely very different than a standing overhead press. Do they all have value? They do. Next question is from Joe D. Fury. Are front squats the incline bench for legs and should you be able to front squat the same weight as back squat? Yeah, I don't understand the first part of that. Are front squats the incline bench? Oh, I see what's going on. Basically, I basically get in a different angle. Yeah, yeah. You kind of say that. Yeah, it is. I'm so level. Oh, they're two different exercises. I know they're both squats, but they're both very different. And that's why I think that just like incline bench is very different from flat bench. I mean, I think that's a good analogy. It is. You could say that. It is.  These were my newer clients who kind of getting into squatting. And I wouldn't have them squat, by the way. They were front squatting a dowel. It wasn't like a weight. And by the way, that's like an old trainer hack. Yeah. That helps get somebody in that good posture where their chest is up high, which is sometimes a hard cue to get people to do when they do a back squat. That's exactly why I would do it. Yeah. Front squats, you're going to be much more upright. You're going to be typically, you'll feel it a little bit more in the quads. It's like upper, mid, back stabilization on the back of your body. You can typically lift more. You're going to be bending forward a little bit more. So you tend to feel it more in the back of your body. And it's, again, you can just lift more that way. Yeah, back squat. You're getting more glute, right? So you're getting a stronger muscle to help. So the posterior chain's involved in the back load squat more than the front load squat. And so that's where you get the ability to lift a lot more. You're calling upon a bigger, stronger muscle to aid in that. But they both have tremendous value. And they're both different exercises.  I mean, that combination will work out. In the same workout? Yeah, in the same workout. Yeah. And I'm not going like, if I'm doing a lot of volume, I'm not going super heavy. But man, does that really work and develop my legs? Like nothing else. There's almost no combination that I found to be as effective, those two. Yeah, there was one point. I mean, I was doing a lot more of power cleans. And so that was very advantageous, obviously, to be able to get in the catch position really efficiently and then be able to dig my way out. And so I was getting pretty strong at front squats. But the time in between of not doing them for a while, then coming back, man, it's a shell shock. If you don't incorporate it, I like to like throw it in every at least two to three months. I do like how they compared this to the incline bench. And I went through a kick where I was trying to catch my front squat up to my back squat, knowing that it probably wouldn't happen. I still set a goal. Like, let's see if I can get it close, just like I did with my incline bench. And I saw tremendous value in doing that.  I'm going to train for a while and really focus on the front squat and try and catch it up. I think you'll see incredible development in your legs. Well, the best squatters in the world, in my opinion, are Olympic lifters. I know power lifters are known for the weight, the massive amounts of weight that they squat. But I think Olympic lifters are, I would have to say, the best in terms of technique. Just power and strength and technique and form and all stuff. And Olympic lifters do a lot of front squats, a lot. Power lifters don't do a lot of front squats. They do some, but they don't do a lot. And so using that as an example, I'd say, I mean, the front squat is very, very valuable. And I think, in my opinion, it should make its way into your routine pretty regularly. Maybe not as regularly as a back squat, but pretty regularly. I think it should be there. Next question is from Stuart75002. We know priming is superior for getting ready for a training session, but do you see any benefits to static stretching? If so, how would you apply it? Okay, so static stretching is the old school way of stretching where you take a muscle, you put it in a stretch, and you hold it there for a while. And then what you notice is, as you're holding it, it starts to loosen up and you get more range of motion. Here's what's happening when you static stretch, and this will kind of explain my opinion or our opinion on this, right? When you're doing a static stretch, as you're holding the stretch, the central nervous system starts to receive the signal. And initially, the central nervous system is like, protect the muscle, keep it tight. And so you're tight. So you're stretching your hamstrings, you're holding it, it's really, really tight. And then the CNS says, wait a minute, I think we're okay. Let's loosen up a little bit. And it starts to dampen its signal, and you start to get more of a range of motion. So the muscle isn't actually becoming more pliable, like a piece of rubber. It's just the central nervous system is relaxing its signal. Now the problem with this is when I'm going into a workout, what I don't want, usually, there are cases where I might want this, but for the most part, I don't want my central nervous system to have a weaker signal, because what that does is actually makes me less stable and can cause more injuries. Studies actually support this now. There's studies that show that static stretching before workouts increases the risk of injury. In fact, I remember when those studies first came out, and everybody's mind was totally blown. Now to answer the question of, is there value in static stretching before you work out? In some cases, there is. If I want a muscle to get out of the way, I'll do it. So to give you an example, let's say I'm working with a client and they have such bad forward shoulder, and their chest is just, their chest and shoulders are so tight that I'm trying to get them to do a row and pull their shoulder blades back and squeeze their shoulder, but they're so tight in the front that it's getting in the way. In that case, I may static stretch the chest and the shoulders to weaken the signal to them so that I can get them to pinch and pull the shoulder blades back more. But it's a very specific way to apply. You don't want to just static stretch your body and go work out because you'll make yourself more unstable. Yeah, because of that study, and I had the same kind of response, like, whoa, it makes perfect sense. I've basically kind of taken all of my emphasis on static stretching towards the end of the workout. So anytime I'm more in a parasympathetic type of a state versus sympathetic, so where I need, because through the workout, you're going to need to be able to brace, be tight, on command. And for the end of the workout where I'm trying to really now recuperate, I'm trying to start that process of recovery, I think it's very beneficial for that, especially in areas where you've found sticking points and you've found restrictions in terms of gaining access to certain ranges of motion. I'm going to hone in on those areas and I'm going to take my time nice, slow, deep breaths, get my heart rate down, and hold those positions into a relaxed state. So that's really where I find the most value for them now. Yeah, I'd have to agree with you and I would challenge what Sal's saying a little bit just because I used to do the same thing. Like, for example, a common one for me to static stretch before squatting would be my hip flexors, because my hip flexors would get in the way. My hip flexors were tight, shorting, and I'd be pulling me forward when I get into a squat. I don't need them to be super active to fire when I'm squatting, so I want to get them out of the way so I could squat better. And I do think that it actually works. But what I have found is you can do priming exercises or mobility drills to accomplish that same thing. Better. Better. Yeah, I agree. So not that static stretching, can't be useful for certain things. Even where it is applicable, like what Sal said and what I just gave as an example, I still think that there are mobility drills or quote-unquote priming drills that you can do that are superior to that anyway. So yeah, I'm with you, Justin. I think that for the most part, it belongs post-workout or throughout your week, right? When I'm the next day after I had a hard training session and I'm static stretching my piriformis or my hip flexors or something like that, that's where I see the most value. Static stretching is relaxing. It's very relaxing. You might not want to do priming session right before you go to bed. Because it might stimulate you and it's hard to sleep. Static stretching before bed where you're breathing. By the way, if you want to make your static stretching effective, remember what you're trying to tell your central nervous system to do. So for my wife, for a while, she traveled with Cirque du Soleil. This was her previous life before she met me and I made her boring or whatever. She can't do any of this anymore, but she used to travel with the circus and work for them and she learned how to get really extreme ranges of motion from some of these acrobats and athletes. So they did, these were Russian athletes and they did some intense static stretching, right? On top of a lot of other stuff. So I would stretch with her sometimes at night and she's like, you're holding your breath. Like your CNS is not going to relax because you're telling your CNS to stay tight. She's like, when you do static stretching, you need to relax your body and breathe because it's also receiving that signal that it needs to protect. So the whole process of static stretching, if you're doing that as part of your protocol, let's say you want to really increase, because okay, for increasing range of motion, it's the best. It's not going to give you functional flexibility. Like focus on the exhale for that. Yeah, you have to totally relax your body and put your body in that parasympathetic state. So post workout is excellent before bed. It's great. Like if you are tight or anxious before bed or whatever, get into these static stretches, breathe your way through, even though it hurts, tell your body it's okay to chill out. It's okay to relax. And it's great. You'll sleep incredible from doing this. Look, if you like our information, you'll love our guides. We have tons of free guides and books available for all of our listeners and viewers. 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