All right, we are now recording. This is our April 26th sandbox meeting, Dimms handing off to you. Okay. So I wanted to look at the resubmissions first because people went for feedback and they came back to us. So Conway Air was one. Anybody remember Conway Air? Yeah, there it is. So I think some of the feedback that we had here was they were too many components and there was also the question about does Conway Air work with standard conformant Kubernetes? Do we get an answer from them? So I know that they went back and addressed the feedback and it does work with just vanilla Kubernetes. I'm not sure that that message got sent out because I personally communicated to them and they need to go through the same process as everyone else. We don't currently have a process for rapid resubmissions and I thought they would get bumped down to the bottom of the list. So should we have a policy if we give people feedback that they don't need to start from scratch? That'd be my first question. And secondly, I can find that response and send it out to everyone if we're wanting to vote today on it. Okay, so we are not ready. So we wait for it to happen, right? I think if you can send us the response now, we could do it. I mean, I think if the feedback has answered our questions we've quite often just fast track them through. Like this, it makes sense to me. I'll be happy to look at the response. And I mean, from your summary of the response, that sounds pretty positive to me. So I'm a plus one. Yep, let me find it real quick. We can come back to it after I do, I got it. Yeah, let's come back to it at the end, right? We'll stop five minutes before. And so Curve, I think this was another one that came back to us. Does anybody remember Curve? They are a cloud native database thing. Distributed storage system. It's used in NetEase. Okay, let's treat it as a new one then because we don't remember what we were doing at that time. So let's start with Catch. Catch, has anybody looked at Catch here? It's an application delivery with framework. They have CRDs, they have a controller and they operate on health charts. They're getting started. Installing Search Manager, Nginx, Catch controller, from source, CNAB. Catch uses CNABs to deploy an application from source. Matt, in your neck of the woods perhaps. Yes, this is one of the few I didn't actually look at. So I'm looking at it now. Okay. Hang on, Catch. Let's look at some data. How many people are there? What are they doing? So 584 stars. They seem to have ongoing stuff happening. But maybe fewer number of people doing since October. They don't have any public spending. The issues are down low. And who's this backed by? Shippa. Anybody familiar with Shippa.io folks? A little bit. Okay, so Kelsey is there. Matt is there as advisor. Vivek, I remember Vivek from somewhere else. And Bruno, this is here. Go ahead, Matt. I was going to say, I mean, it looks sort of like a pass for on top of Kubernetes. Yeah, there are integrations with Terraform, Crossplane and Pulumi. Okay, anything concerning folks so far? So it's a single vendor open source from a startup that they are trying to build a community around. So I'm okay with getting this in. There's nothing surprising here.  It's an experiment. Will it work? How will it work out? Right. They're trying to see that. Let's wait for 30 seconds and call for a vote. Okay, Amy. Can you please? I mean, my only comment is just that there's, the number of issues is remarkably low. I've never seen a repo with any eight issues that has 237 close pull requests. It's just, does kind of suggest that, and those are all from themselves. Right. They want to build a community, I guess, and they're coming here for that purpose. Yeah, the only question is whether we fail, I should have a minimal amount of community before they come. We could take that back to them. That will be my kind of question, Mark. So their contributor guide is how to set it up locally and not necessarily mechanisms for contributing back to the project. Their roadmap only has a few items on it. It's not associated with any of their issues. So there's no clear way to understand how far they're progressing and the completion of those other than an in progress straight at some initiative or higher level. They don't have regular meetings for a community. They have office hours, but that's about it and a mailing list. I think they need to have a community. We haven't asked of the folks, Emily, there. But we haven't required that for Sandbox, right? Yeah, not required for Sandbox per se. I was gonna say the same. This wasn't a requirement before. Yeah. So I guess my question then is, if the intent is to get the project to be more experimental and get folks attention, if there isn't any mechanism for a potential contributor to learn how to contribute to the project or how to start in that community, how do we expect the project to be successful? Yeah, so I think we have a checklist we asked folks to work on when they get into the Sandbox. If it's not already there, we can add an item with a checkbox there. Okay. Is that okay, Emily? Sorry, Amy? No, it was Emily. Yeah, I think that's reasonable. I think we should be prescriptive about that for questioning ourselves whether or not that's a baseline requirement or just part of their journey to incubation. Because I do concur with Emily's point. If you wanna grow the community, but you can't be part of that community, it kind of negates the implication. So I don't know if we wanna send back, but again, we don't require communities today. So I think as far as our policy, we probably need to not hold it down because of that. Another data point, at least for the office hours, the calendar is empty. The meeting notes show two meetings in total. One in March, one in April. So we can still vote and tell them to come back and fix these things, right? So the vote doesn't mean that we are okay with them. The vote also means that, you know, we don't support it. But if we look at the list of contributors and stars, it seems to be more well-established than a lot of things we have put in the past in the send books. Correct. It doesn't mean that we should approve it. I'm just hanging in. More well-funded, it's a startup, but I don't think it has a project. I think the question of whether it's actually looking open for fundamental contribution outside the company is unclear to me. Okay, let's see what they say here, right? Strong believers would like to get more exposure. We believe it's the neutral ground project for the flourish and would like to have an increase of project load barrier to contribution and an option that the CNCF provides. So they want to do the work once they begin here. That's what they're saying. And the question is, are we willing to do that? Well, this is work that they don't need from the CNCF to try to ask for contributions and make it easy for people to come on board to, right? And if they really want that, then why don't they start doing it now? Why do they have to wait for it to come into the CNCF to ask for contributions? That's not one of our benefits, right? The benefit of joining the CNCF isn't, now you can get contributions from others, right? I think it's just getting visibility to a wider community that they may not have had before. I don't think it's pulling off on that. We can certainly ask for clarification. But if visibility is part of the intention, isn't that arguably even a little bit lower than sandbox, like a runway or something? So as far as I remember till the last call, we were allowing such projects come in and during the process of setting up their sandbox in an area and trying to pitch to existing CNCF folks, that's when they would do these kinds of things. If you're gonna change, then we'll have to go back and change all our documentation to say, hey, this is a hire bar that we are asking you to do before we can let you in sandbox. So according to present rules, I think we are okay there. And what I would say is Amy has a checklist that she works with each of the sandbox folks. So we could add more items in that checkbox, list of checkboxes. Okay, we are burning up time on this. So I'm gonna call for a vote and the fall where it may fall. Okay, votes are open. Go ahead, please. This one's not included based on just voting to come on through. So I think we can move on. Okay, thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, so basically build a community a little bit more, start doing things before they apply next. Thank you. So Container Structure Test, this is a submission from Google folks. They have actually, there's nobody working on it anymore. So they want us to take this over. They want to throw it over the fence and say, here you go CNC ask and deal with it. Yeah, and I'm not comfortable with this. No, me neither. Yeah, it needs to be defined, need help with this. I'm not aware of any. So it's one person trying to, you know, shift it to us, widely used Google maintenance sole ownership clean way to, this is worse than the previous one. And do we all agree? So we're gonna, let's call for a vote and say no officially, okay? Oh, Amy didn't start the thing, but sure. Hold on, hold on. Sorry. You should see a message from Amy. I can pick it up from where we last left off, not included, moving on. Thank you. Okay. Take a part. Okay, open function. I keep reading this as open fast because you know, Alex Ellis is doing open fast. So open function, I think it's 10 cent or Q sphere, right? Q sphere. So anyone took a look at this one? Yes, I did. So this one is, I mean, it's a fast functions as a service, right? It just seemed like a prototypical functions as a service that somebody else was trying to build, a competitor to open fast. That's exactly what I thought. I'm like, open function, it's a competitor to open fast. And somebody's trying to make it work. I mean, I've got opinions on it, right? As far as their experiment is going, most of their documentation targets people like operators and those operating it, which doesn't really target the end users who are going to create the functions. So I'm not sure if they're really going after their target audience, but then again, this is just me judging the way they're trying to get there. You know, people are having a very hard time making functional phases on top of Kubernetes and getting them out there. And so I wonder about their approach, targeting so much with operators rather than trying to get all the end users who want to use it up and listening to that audience. But otherwise it's just a fast. Let's see some activity. So issues, pull requests, contributors, seem to be ongoing activity for sure. Yep. I mean, they've got contributions. It's being actively developed and worked. Okay. But I think open function, who'd be sphere or two totally different project, right? We should look at an open function project, right? Yeah, this one is open function. We didn't look at Q-Sphere. I see. Okay, Q-Sphere was another one that I was clicking on just to see who was there, so. Okay, got it, got it. Okay, pull request one, issues 22, insights, contributors, there's ongoing stuff. Yeah. It's basically two people though. Yeah. And it's only a year old, which is kind of new. There's other projects we might look at today that have even less time. There's one that's proposed that a month after development started, they submitted to the sandbox. Yeah, I mean, historically we've rejected almost all those ones. Okay. Actually, no, sorry. Yeah, basically we've rejected pretty much all of those unless there's been a very strong reason why people need it to be in CNCF to collaborate. Okay. Okay, so we feel they are not really compact later, right? Is it because it's so new? I think, I mean, it's new in a space where there's been a lot of other approaches have had difficulty getting traction and sustaining. Actually, I might ask Alex if he wants to submit OpenFest to talk to you, because OpenFest is actually getting user traction now. It's taken a long time. Okay, let's come back to this one. There's only one pull request and issues were there. 20 to open, 39 closed. Well, they had 200 closed pull requests. Yeah, 200 closed. I don't know.  So it's not, it doesn't have attention, right? I think their approach is interesting, especially focusing on operators particularly since the majority of our projects have heavily focused on developers. And I've seen a lot more use cases, particularly as of late for serverless capabilities as it relates to the operational deployment and production of services, maintenance, monitoring, all of that. So they're, in my mind, I see them kind of in alignment with that and they've started to realize and maybe the rest of the community has as well because they're so young with so much attention and activity. Okay, so let's start a vote unless any other comments are coming in. Thank you. Okay, thank you. So next one is Teller. There are actually two line items for Teller. There's a duplicate, it's from spectral ops and what ended up happening was spectral ops got bought out by somebody else, a checkpoint. And this happened in the first Q1 sometime a couple of months ago, a month or two ago. And the scene- Change because of that, what does it affect their submission? So they resubmitted, let me find the second one that might have more recent information. This is number five, this is number 26. So, secret management tool, Teller. And this was 321. So definitely newer than the previous one. They're having trouble with the roof. It's all collapsed into one line, I can't. Oh, hold on, let me fix that. Give me a hot second. That should not be how that is. These should all be wrapped. Refresh and try it again. There you go. Much better. Okay, benefits from Teller as infrastructure component. There is a commercial solution. So it's a startup that got bought out and then like the contribute back. So let me go back to the previous one to see if there was any differences. Universal secret manager, security. So I like this project. You like it? I do. And the reason why is because we don't really have a lot of projects in this space. So I personally feel that this is something as needed. When I looked at the project a few months ago, their roadmap was fairly robust and well built out. They're somewhat active. They are not the most active, but it looks like they've taken the time to actually think through all the potential, not necessarily competition in the space, but other CNCF projects that they can integrate with as well as commercial solutions that they could potentially integrate with. So I feel like they understand their space relatively well and that there is an appetite for this. Okay. Is there an overlap with what SOPS is doing in Mozilla? Looks kind of similar. There was some discussion about SOPS when we were talking about flux the other day as well. That is not necessarily well maintained. So this could be... Yeah, it seems similar Ricardo. Yeah. And there was this discussion that SOPS is having an issue of not having enough maintainers. And if Mozilla would actually donate the project to the CNCF eventually or something. So I think it's a nice addition in this space. What's that? So can I just understand what that commercial model is? Are they? Let me go look at that. Yeah, it was Doppler.com. D-O-P-P-L-E-R. D-O-P-P-L-E-R. Remove the O, R-D-I, remove the I, yeah. Sync environment variables at scale. Secret ops platform. Okay, so value added more. But is it... Just want to understand if it's... How the value add works. Is it open core? Is it on the side? Is it a service? Because I think that we don't want to be in a situation where it's a single company product that isn't, you know, for example, isn't shipping features into open source because they compete with the commercial thing. If it's a, if it's a, anyone can host it on the same basis, that's absolutely fine. But just trying to understand if it's like, if it's a hashical fault situation where it wouldn't be acceptable as a CNCF project. So I have a feeling that we would have had that question before they got bought out, not now because they already, you know, cashed out, so to say. Well, no, I don't think it makes any difference that they're being bought to... Right, right. For the same product than... Yeah. I just like it. Okay, let me go. Oops. And I, that's a good question, right? Is what's the difference between Doppler and Teller? Here is the thing, right? Do we ask that question before? Sorry, Erin, go ahead. I just made sure we're asking if one is upstream and one is downstream and if there's a community behind it. Are we just clarifying that? It's not unusual to have this kind of... Yeah. The thing I really want to know is, is this open core where you've got a core set that you've open sourced and then you've got a bunch of additional functionality and you're selling it through it, but you're not going to upstream features, right? Because you keep it in your proprietary version and then you don't allow that stuff into the upstream community. How do we, have we addressed that before? I mean, it's a hash form model. We've never accepted a project on that basis. I think we'd have a lot of reservations about it. Yeah. That's why we would need to be clear. And in most cases, it's all... The product we've had is very straightforward that people are selling the upstream directly and their commercial products are usually adjacent in a clearly defined way. And so there's no conflict. So we haven't had someone submit on that basis, but it's just a case where it's just a little bit unclear and it may well be that it's fine like that, but it's just not. So I posted a link from the co-founder at Spectral. It says that they built an open source alternative to Doppler called Teller for companies that are security and privacy conscious and are concerned about their secrets, data and vendor lock-in. Oh, did we misread that? It was not in the submission. Emily found this one. Yeah. Oh, the Doppler is the similar one. It is in the submission, on line 26. Right, but this... Yeah, this isn't theirs. Okay, yeah, so this is open source. I got it, they're not the same company. Okay, my confusion. Okay. So it lists the unique features down there. Yeah. Okay, so it's not an open core model that two different organizations. Okay, makes sense to me. Okay, so let's vote. Amy, five, we have 30 minutes, 28 minutes. Sealer, Sealer, is this Alibaba? Moving on. Yeah, thank you. Sealer, Alibaba, Harry, have you seen this project before, Sealer.co? Yeah, I've seen that before, but I'm not there for mid-average yet. Okay. So from what I understood, it's like bundling everything into something bigger than a Docker image. So it's easy to... All the dependencies are baked into the image itself, so you don't have to worry about pulling things from different places. So from Kubernetes, copy my SQL alas, just read its WordPress and apply everything in one shot. So this is what Q file looks like, and you can create an image out of it, and you can put it into some kind of a registry. It's probably OCI. Yeah, it looked like a way to package up a Kubernetes cluster with its workloads into a single unit, stick that unit into an OCI registry, then pull that down and start it up again many times. So 1.1 stars, contributors, things are happening. Three pull requests, how many closed? Oh, 766. So they are doing stuff. And this is from Alibaba. So, Harry, previously have we had any issues with Alibaba-driven projects or everything was okay? I don't recall previous issues. I don't know, Justin, do you remember any? No, I mean, I think they've been, yeah, they've submitted several projects. Right. I think, yeah, they've done quite a lot of things. I can't remember exactly which ones, but I'm fine, but I don't know nothing I remember being the problem. Yeah, okay. Okay, so any other things to look for, look at? Celerot, cool. Yeah, okay. Will deliver run user defined clusters in one command. Exactly what you said, Matt. Okay, let's call a word then. Yes, Volcano was from Huawei to it in. Oh, that's right. Okay, let's try. Yeah, word for beta plus one, yeah. This one is ClusterNet. Celeros included, moving on. Thank you. Okay, this one is ClusterNet, I can tell you it is ClusterNet. Okay, they have a long project description, multiple clusters as easily as visiting the internet, general purpose system. Multi-cluster manager tool. Yeah, and if I remember right, they have like an agent kind of thing. Let me find, get to the point of ClusterNet.io. Cluster, multi-cluster management. Learn more, Kubernetes native, remember seeing, yeah. Okay, so you can run your Kubernetes cluster anywhere and they will magically make it into a single Kubernetes cluster and they're doing it by adding agents that run in each of the child clusters and they'll have, in the parent cluster, they'll have the QBPS server, which is an aggregated one. Yeah, yes. So I like this project. For one, its ability to manage multiple clusters essentially is one. I have some potential concerns about how they're going about doing that and it's not entirely clear from their documentation. So like as they move forward, I think having a security review at a much later date when they're slightly more mature would be truly beneficial. One of the things in particular that I like about it is it's all about ownership through groups, which is from their documentation, a nice call out, but I'd like to see them potentially look more at roles and other forms of ownership management. So I think there's a lot of potential here. Yep, yeah. And I'm always for projects like this where we are trying to stitch things into a single cluster. So this is a decent effort at it. It's a one-person project essentially, which concerns me. Like this is a big task. So this person, Dish, I don't know how to say his name, sorry. So he helps out in the Kubernetes too and he does a bunch of things for us on the Kubernetes side. So he's been there for a long time. So I kind of trust this person, but I don't know anybody else. None of the other ones, no one else has really contributed any significant amount. I mean, 11 commits is negligible. Yeah. Sorry, it's a one-person project, which is a little bit concerning to me. Yeah. For something as big as multi-cluster. But also in the submission, there's no mention of the cluster API, I think, on the projects compared to. There's things like CoupFed, which are basically dead since long time and open cluster management, I think, as well. So looking at their contributing guide, it doesn't look like they have any community building in place, but they do have, feel free to get participated if you found a bug and requested a new feature. But that's it. Yeah, I think it's from Tencent, right? So, but I don't know why other Tencent folks are not doing as much here. Well, Tencent also has this virtual covalent implementation that deploys Kubernetes clusters behind. So it seems to be competing for this. Okay. If there's nothing else, we can vote. And, you know, the concerns are about number of people. So we can, say, come back later with more people, more community. Especially contributors from Tencent, I guess. Looking at their roadmap, it sounds like beginning of 2023, maybe, would be ideal for them. They've got some stuff on their roadmap. One, that hasn't been updated in over a year. And two, that would probably be fairly significant. That's a decent feedback to go with. So let's call for a vote and give them the feedback. Not included. What kind of feedback do you want to? Like, sum that one down to like a sentence for me. Come back later. Okay, all right. Come back later with more people who are active in the project, actively doing PRs and reviews and issues. Okay, active community requested. Moving on. Thank you. Aryan, if I remember right, this is Israeli startup, Aryan. So my notes on this one are, it has a Falko connector for active threat protection. It looks less active than some of the other projects, but it does have a roadmap. It looks like it's one person that's doing most of the having lifting within the project. So I'll say, I'd wonder, it requires Falko. So I was wondering, should it be a sub project of Falko, potentially not a standalone project? Yeah, let's give them that feedback. Go talk to Falko first and then come back to us. Yep, that makes sense. Okay. Do we need to vote on the same? Moving on. Okay, thank you. Cubescape. So this, oh, that's Cubesphere. I keep getting confused between these two. Okay, Emily, any idea on this? This is also testing securely. It's a security CICD integration with configuration checks for CISA and other best practices within the community, which is nice. This kind of helps support some of the auditability requirements that we've started to see being asked of adapters. The question is, is whether or not people actually want it? I know the ask is coming from auditors within the community, but... All right. I think they use some EBPF or something or one of the other projects that does EBPF. Does it use Falko too? No, not Falko. Oops, that's not WSE. No. How, what's the engine that they use? Or could they do their own engine? It's OPA. Okay, yeah. See, Rego, that's what I was gonna say. Rego-based, yes, Cubescape. Docs, maybe I should look at their website. So Rego-based policies is what I remember seeing when I was looking. Any other thoughts? Anyone? Again, it's very early. It's significantly under, it was great. It started last August. They do say that it's one of the fastest growing Kubernetes tools among developers, but I don't really see any evidence of that. I look at the number of releases, 119 releases, they do. Turn it out for sure. And they do have some... They haven't hit 200 commits yet. Almost like, okay, what feedback would we give them, Justin? I mean, I think that... They're trying. Yeah, they're trying. I would keep trying, come back in six months. Okay. I think that's fair. Sounds good to me. Sure, we can move on. I see 5.6 stars, 280 forks, not shabby. Okay. You don't want to know where you can buy used get-up stars from on the black market nowadays. Thanks, Justin. They're a security company. They can do whatever they want, right? No, but I mean, I does show some... You know, does show some signs of interest, but it's very early. So here's what I would say. I would tell them to go to the security and security, get some promotion that way, and collect some people and then come back next time. So I would recommend they definitely should talk to security tag, especially since they're going to be releasing the security controls catalog that has a lot of these mappings. So it would be beneficial for them to take advantage of that content. Okay. So let's tell them that, Amy, please. Security, security. We'll figure it out. Okay. Lagoon is a re-application. Oh, okay. Let's say Dr. Pompos. Okay, Justin, have you seen this one? No. Use lagoon computers. They've been there for a while. Okay, not too much activity. This sufficient number of... Wow, 1823 closed. 378 open. 840 closed. Developer focused application delivery platform for... It's another patch. Okay. Locally, Helm charts unkind. Lagoon core remote. We have had a kind of reluctance to host PASS projects historically. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing is the company, I think. Yeah, I mean, they don't say it's a PASS, but it's web application delivery. And a bunch of their examples are using Drupal, and I think with one is WordPress. So they're using... It's all about deploying your web app. See, they've got configuring their examples, Drupal. And how do you deploy in and get going with Drupal here? Okay, this is a PASS. The PASS. So they have an open issue on allowing SSH keys to be shared between users and getting that fixed. Okay, that doesn't sound good. It might be, yeah, an issue. Yeah, the whole reason why they have it as a ticket is because it's over-complicating the API and not necessarily for the security implications of doing that. In fact, it looks like it currently allows them to search for all SSH keys for all users before deleting one. Consonant. Prodigate. They've also had some slippage in the past 10 months about the work that they're getting done. They have a roadmap in place. And looking through it, they're getting a lot of things done. I'm just not 100% sure whether or not they're ready. They also have an open issue on researching the usage of security contacts and pod security policies for Kate's clusters. And they're expecting that to be released in 3.0, but they haven't even hit 2.0. Yeah, the last time I see a note from September 14, 2021, from Amy, reapplying in six months, showing more connection to Cloud Native was what we told them. Because I think at that time, it was just Docker Compose. And now they've added more. So they still have ongoing work for replacing OpenShift with Kubernetes objects. I would say push them off another six months at least, maybe a year without rate that they're going. Sounds good to me. Do we need to take a vote? No, that seems pretty clear. Okay, thank you. Moving on. Okay, Matos. I think the first thing that I noticed on this one was it's a Python-based project. Anybody have issues with Python-based projects? So, not much activity. One of the things that I noticed is that it's a company, Cloud Matos. So Cloud Matos has a project called Matos that they want to open source. And that just flagged the thing of, are there going to be trademark issues with the naming care and then passing the name off? Yeah, we work with them on legal side to rebrand for sure. So that should not be a problem as such. It's only got 19 commits, so it's a no from me. Yeah, they need to... Agreed, way too young. Okay, so Amy... Reapply in six months. Yeah, perfect. At least a year, I'd say, not even six months. Six months is the one that we currently tell people that is actually within timing and given how our backlog has been rolling, it... I'm going to say minus one to them in six months, regardless of whether they come back and see it. It needs to be at least a year. Okay, so... Significant community growth. Come back in one year. Let's put the date also. Okay. So this one... I want to call time because you said you wanted to go back to Conveyor. Yes, let's just finish this one. This is very easy. Basically, what we need to tell them is to go talk to Kubernetes Sieg release and then come back because it's... It's essentially taking the community supported from one year to longer timeframe. And so let them find out if there is any opportunity to work with the Kubernetes Sieg release folks. Thank you. Yeah, and this one, then one after that, CAPC. We should tell them to go talk to Sieg cluster lifecycle. They already have things in progress on the Kubernetes side. I don't know why they ended up... Maybe they did it here first and then they went to talk to Kubernetes folks. So basically, yeah, we can tell them to go continue the conversation there and come back to us if those things don't work. Okay? Sounds good. Correct me, did I miss Matos? We just told Matos one year. Thank you. Okay. Conveyor. Okay, do you have that email, Erin? I don't, I asked them for a final draft and I never got it, so... Okay. I think we need to again pick it up one more time later next time. Okay, thank you. Okay. I mean, from the verbal description, I think I'm okay with it. Do you want to vote without the actual email? What do folks think? Yeah, I'm not comfortable, so let's wait for the thing over here, please. Okay? Okay, thank you. Yeah. Any other projects anybody wants to poke at? We have five minutes. Clusterpedia, Turnbuckle, OpenCost, OpenFeature, Hidra, DevStream, XR, Teller, we talked about. Yeah, Qbray. Okay. We'll give you a few minutes back. Okay? All right, sounds good. Thanks a lot, everyone.


Seven, six, five, four, three, two, one, go. So, let it roll! What's up guys, welcome to today's vlog. Today, what we're gonna go over is this haircut right here. I love this haircut. I know you guys like this style haircut as well, but we have the disconnections in the front, a lot of really fun layering, and also some precision graduation in the back. So, definitely think you guys are gonna dig this cut. Let me know what you think in the comments below. Also, I will give you the color formula at the end. This was a previously colored mannequin that we did with the Joyco hair color, so I'll talk about that as we go through it as well. So, hope you guys enjoy it. Let's get started with our step-by-step. Here we go. All right guys, so we're gonna start off by parting the mannequin on the left-hand side. This is really based on the side that your guest parts their hair. So, if they part it on the right-hand side, then you can go ahead and part it on the right-hand side and just mirror what I'm doing. So, start off in the left-hand side. Then we're gonna go back through mid-crown, and then straight down, center back. What that's gonna do is give me a nice symmetrical feeling on the very back portion around the nape of the neck, which will give me a easier way to stay consistent creating a symmetrical shape in the back of the head. Once I get my parting created in the back, then I just clip away the right-hand side, get it out of the way, and then I'm gonna work diagonal forward partings all the way up the head shape. So, you can see that's about a half-inch section that I take out of the nape of the neck, and then I'm gonna work that straight out from the head. So, right at the occipital bone, the head kind of curves in. So, this is very, almost 90 degrees, maybe just a little bit below 90 degrees at the fingertip portion of the section. So, keep taking those partings, half-inch partings, and I'm over-directing them to the previous. So, what we're doing is we're creating a traveling guide, which is gonna create a nice balanced structure in the back of the head. So, half-inch parting, diagonal forward, over-direct it to that previous section, and then work my way through. The reason I don't wanna do too much over-direction in the back is because I would be building up too much weight in the front. So, we do have a forward feel to this haircut. You saw that texture and length in the front of the haircut. That doesn't mean that you have to do over-direction to create that. We're actually gonna create it using disconnection, which is gonna be a lot lighter than going in and over-directing everything to the front to try to create the same exact look. So, I'm working my way all the way up to behind the ear. You could see that nice graduation building up. We're utilizing the head shape to change the angle. So, my finger angle stays the same, but because we're working up the head shape, the actual elevation of the haircut changes and builds up that weight around the occipital bone, gives it a nice shape. Now, what I'm gonna do is break up the sides of the haircut. Now, this was a previously cut mannequin that we did before. So, it has a layered feel to the top of the haircut. So, it's nice and light. So, if somebody had thicker hair, I'd probably break this up into more sections, but because it's nice and skinny, I can do it in a couple. So, I just comb it straight down, using the wide teeth of my comb, keeping it nice and natural. And then I go through and just freehand cut all the way to where I want that disconnection to start. So, I'm leaving that hair for later, and we talk about this a lot in all these different videos that we do. We wanna leave some hair that we can create different things with later. So, we keep that weight on there, keep that disconnection. Now, I'm gonna work the opposite side. Finger angle stays the same, working parallel from the occipital bone down to the nape, and using the wide teeth of the comb and working with a traveling guide. It's even more important on this side of the haircut because of the fact that this is the heavy side. So, all the weight is gonna be traveling to this side to stay nice and consistent. Don't over-direct it too far.  Now, you'll notice I hold my scissor a little bit different. A lot of times, you're looking for comfort when you're cutting hair. If I twist my wrist a certain way when I'm trying to cut close to the nape of the neck, my hand gets in the way. It kind of bounces off of the neck. So, I just flip the scissor, I put my thumb in the other direction, cuts the hair exactly the same. So, if you're comfortable cutting it the other way, you don't have to cut it like that. But you can see once I got away from the nape, now I go back to cutting regular. It's just a comfort thing for me, keeps me consistent. So, working my way through all the way to behind the ear, still working those diagonal forward sections. You can see that my over-direction is not coming to the back middle. But what I am doing is following the head shape up. So, I'm not over-directing that hair over towards the ear either. What I wanted to do is keep it nice and light. So, I'll start with my elevation low, work my way up, and I'll follow that guideline that goes all the way up into that crown area. So, my elevation will shift a little bit because I want to keep it nice and light. This is something I talk about on hair cutting a lot. You don't have to keep consistently cutting in one spot. You can move throughout the haircut as long as you understand why you're doing it. I'm moving because I want it to be nice and light around the crown, and I don't want to build up a ton of weight behind the right ear. So, we start off cutting. You can see the angle that we're holding the hair. Then I shift, I raise my hand up a little bit, keeps it nice and light, and then I work my way towards the top, and I do a little bit of point cutting even into that to lighten it up that way. So, we're gonna do the same thing on the opposite side, the same thing we did on the left-hand side. Take a horizontal parting across, use the wide teeth of our comb, and then freehand cut to where we want that disconnection to be. Same thing, we'll do one more section. If you can't see through this, then you should definitely break it up. So, if you have thicker hair, remember, break that up into multiple sections. Now, we're gonna go in with our Cloud9 Blowout Serum. This is from Bercato. It's one of my favorite products for smoothing hair. I just throw it in there. It's got a nice shine to it. You'll see how much shine builds up on the hair. Nice medium hold. What I like to do with dry hair cutting is kind of make it feel like there's nothing in the hair, but have it nice and shiny and smooth.  You're also gonna see a buildup of weight around those disconnections because we haven't elevated the hair yet. We're gonna elevate the hair when we get into the dry cutting portion. You're also gonna see the shape come to life as well. So, just going through blow drying, doing some flat wrapping, also some leafing. Leafing is when you kind of grab the hair with the brush just like you're seeing me do now and lift the hair up. Gives it a little bit of volume at the base but also pulls tension onto the hair which helps smooth out that base to mid-shaft. Anytime you're flat wrapping the hair or you're leafing the hair, you're focused on the base and the mid-shaft. The ends you'll get with the Flatiron which is what we're gonna go in and do next. So, my focus is getting the shine to the base, getting the lift where I want it and then now we're gonna go in with our Bercato Vibra straight iron. This is the iron I use all the time. It vibrates as it smooths. So, what it does is causes less friction. So, it's less damage, also has a smoother kind of pass through on the hair and kind of works. So, if you think about it as it's vibrating, it's separating the hair, it helps smooth it faster as well. So, you're gonna see as I'm smoothing the hair out here, I'm mostly focused mid-shaft to ends. Like I said in the blow dry, we focus the blow dry on the base to mid-shaft. We go mid-shaft to ends with the iron, just saves us on our work. So, keeping it nice and polished in both ways, but also creating less damage for the hair because we're not ironing everything scalp to ends every time.  So, when she pushes it over to the other side, it gives it a little kick and flip to it. It lays really nice. You can see how soft it lays right, wrapping around the face there. So, now what we're gonna do is we're gonna work on that disconnection and the dry cutting portion. So, you can see that extra weight sitting there, that's because we haven't elevated the left-hand side of the head yet. So, what I do is I go through and I cut my precision line in the back. All my lines are usually done with the dry detail work. So, that's why I wanna make sure you get the hair nice and smooth the way you want it. And I go through and I detail the sides, cut those nice hard lines in the shape, really makes the shape stand out. It's all these finishing touches that make your haircut stand out to your guests. So, just going through, finishing the outer perimeter of the haircut, you can still see those disconnections. We're gonna cut into those now.  No, we're not. We're gonna go in and connect it to the haircut. So, I go through, this is a tease cutting technique that I've shown you guys a lot. If you just started following, welcome. I have lots of videos on how to do this technique, but it's a half close with the scissor. And it helps to work out any weight within a dry cut, creates a lot of shattered kind of feel and texture within the haircut as well. So, we go through that disconnected portion that I did not elevate. I wanna go through and just add some light layers to it.  All of that is very similar techniques.  The tease cutting is pushing the scissor in half closing and then releasing it, pushing it in half closing and releasing it. Slide cutting is just sliding down and half closing on it as you work. So, I also told you guys I would share with you the color formula. So, the base of this color, so we pre-lightened, did some balayage all over the entire head and painted basically from mid-shaft to ends.  And then the ends is a light pink with the rose. So, that's our end result guys, hope you liked it. All right guys, like always if you like this haircut then hit the like button, hit the share button, share this video with all of your friends out there. Also, if you're not a hairdresser and you're looking for a salon, remember we have the hair salon locator.com website where FSE partner salons are all on there. You can type in your zip code and find the closest salon near you.  You also get added to our secret Facebook group and put on the FSE salon locator website so that people that watch these videos can find your salon and get these hairstyles. So, make sure you check out all the links for everything that I've used in the video and also more information on finding a salon or becoming part of our FSE partner salon program. Thank you guys for watching. I'll see you guys on the next video. Thanks. And guys, remember if you haven't subscribed to the channel, make sure you hit the subscribe button below because you could win this Vibra straight iron. Good luck. 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The president's budget proposal eliminates public media funding. Learn how you can help at lptv.org slash action. For the second time in three years, the Nevis boys basketball team was back in the Class A state tournament. After a 28-and-1 season, the Tigers earned the fourth seat and took on fifth seat in Springfield in a battle of the Tigers earlier this afternoon. And Nevis came out hot in the first half and this one, Jack Lenquist goes to work down low, delivers the bucket and the foul, three the old-fashioned way, Tigers up five. Later, it's Michael Lenquist for three from the top of the arc, 13 of his game high, 24 came in the first. Nevis led by nine at the break, but Springfield came to play in the second. They opened the half and a 25 run over the first seven minutes led by Kilmendering in his team high, 22. Springfield would push their lead to his biggest 14, but Nevis would fight back, Griffin chased, knocks down the triple in transition to cut the lead to five, but they'd have to play the foul game and Springfield would hit their shots to seal this one, and they take down Nevis 73-265. Here are the Tigers after the game. Credit to them, they play amazing defense. The physicality of the game was just at another level, so we got to give credit to them because they made it a lot harder. It's an extremely disappointing loss for us, you know, but like I told the guys, there are no bad teams here.  And like we talked about earlier, coming out of the second half, we just didn't hit some shots that would have kept us in the lead and kept the energy that we needed to sustain on defense with us. And, you know, as of now, our goal is, like we said, coming down, we got to win a game, so we got to come out and execute.  If you've enjoyed this segment of Lakeland News, please consider making a tax-deductible contribution to Lakeland Public Television.


Hey yo, what's going on guys? Welcome to another video. Thank you guys so much for clicking on in this one If you could do me a favor and pepper that like button because this is one of the probably the hardest episodes of wherever gonna make We're out of breath. We just took our kayaks pretty far. I'm hoping everything's gonna be okay today We're going to be fishing in a puddle with their kayaks when I mean puddle. This is the smallest place I've honestly ever fished like even if I fished it by land Well, we were putting the kayaks in it today and this is going to be a crazy video We found out that there was fish in this place about a few about a week ago And um, we saw some giants busting on the bank I mean like toads like big ones caught like six or seven in the matter of like 10 minutes And this is going to be insane. So let's go ahead and drop the kayaks in the water guys. There's at least Oh my god. There's another one bro. There's a two. There's three more Give me my pole hold I think the good person is going to die if it does just use your phone You mean the camera?  There's two of them under me. Oh my god There's a monster. Oh my god. He almost ate me Bro, he like put it in his mouth. They just know we're here, dude Well boys and girls, this is actually the little tiny puddle I mean it is literally tiny. I've seen at least three 10 pounders 11 pounders And also a lot of fives the biggest problem is that the fish know that we're here Like they literally just know that we're here because the water's so clear obviously the place is so small And I mean they just know that we're here. They're not going to bite, but there's another place right down from here That's a little bit just slightly bigger And we're going to tote the kayaks down to there and see if we can get a shot at catching a big one And then we'll come back to this one see if we can get a bite Oh, I'm good.  All right. Keep her coming. Are you going to be good? All right Oh, the nose of the boat is going on. I think we're good guys Please like this video This has been the hardest video I've filmed and I've been doing this for almost seven about six years Please like this video Hopefully there's some giants in here too Oh my gosh. I got one Yeah, you're running with me Jerk bait tiny dude At least we got the first fish of the day, right? There's fish here. That is the smallest bass ever. Oh god. All right. We're gonna keep going See if we can catch some 10 pounders because the last one had some 10s and I think so Reel is coming off, bro And he's barely hooked, bro. He's barely hooked get him up to me.  Yeah, I thought you had a giant for a minute there, dude There you go, man. That's allen boss first fish. That's two overall Not a bad one, man on the on the trap. I thought it was going to happen on that It just looked like my reel was coming off My You don't get release on him second fish of the day. Yeah, man All right, baby. We've tied the trap back on. We're gonna give it a try I stopped feeling they're gonna wreck this thing.   Oh, he came off You got another one You what in the world? Dude, you look huge the sun's in my eyes. I can't see There you go. Allen bob is wrecking him on that trap Oh my god, he had it right away Dude, I got one I literally threw in bro and he already ate it Why am I catching these little dinkers? My second dinker, but he's a fish Dude, I didn't even reel it and he already had it.  These things are all the same size Except for that one that just missed me But the six fish are ready Oh my god, I got him all the way across the pond. Look at him rolling. I'm gonna just boat him across Look at him That is my biggest one yet. Still a twinkie. Still a twinkie. These are beautiful fish though in this clear water And they're just really really colorful really awesome So there are a ton of ways to work a trap rattle trap whatever you guys want to call it lipless crankbait There are a ton of different ways simply yo-yoing it stroking it up really hard Just simply reeling it letting that thing hit the bottom and stroking it up I mean, there's a ton of different ways throw this bait to catch bass If you guys want a full video on it Be sure to pepper that thumbs up button and let me know in the comment section below and I can make a full On a rattle trap video. I feel like that'll be pretty neat. But um today They're biting it a little bit different because you're not gonna have to every single day You're really going to have to experiment that's that's what fishing is all about is really experimenting and you know finding What's working obviously, but every single day is going to be different and Today for these fish what we really realize and instead of just throwing your rattle trap out there And just straight rolling it in like this and maybe popping your rod every once in a while to give it that sporadic movement What we've figured out is you want to simply throw your bait out there And then start stroking your rod up just like this And we're not going super fast, you know, we're going pretty slow You stroke it up. You let your bait sink and you stroke it up again. Just like that. Let your bait sink Just like this and this fish are just loading up on it What's happening is when you stroke that bait up one one thing is when you throw it out there It's hitting the bottom You're stroking it up and that bait's rattling all the way to the top and then when you let that thing drop It's just slowly wobbling like this but and it's not really wobbling It's kind of swaying back and forth as the bait's falling down And usually on the fall is when those fish are just going to demolish it I mean they're going to slam that bait and uh, it really allows them Especially on a tough day where these fish aren't really wanting to chase much.   There's about a five pounder just swimming I actually have a jumbug worm on and we are in clear water So obviously I do not want to be throwing that color. I don't know if it really matters too much in this little pond But I do have two green pumpkin ones left a little smaller profile trick worms We're gonna give these a try and see if we can wax them on it All the same size bro. What about for what I've caught I've caught baby dinkers This one's a little bit fatter though. I give them that still a dink bass like major dink Oh my god Yeah, I skipped all the way in the back of that thing, man That's not bad one. Oh man. He's black Dude, he's up in that tree man. I skipped all the way into the back of it. Oh, he's pissing everywhere. Look at that Watch this He's been living under there for the last decade Gosh guys. Look at that fish right there. I skipped all the way into the back of this tree And just pulled this guy out. Look how dark he is. He has been all up under that tree That was insane pretty little fish nothing big. This is definitely my biggest from this pond though But that is a pretty bass man I know in the last video I was talking about pretty much how I'm working texas rigs around cover for bass and what I've noticed Especially when I was getting my bites on this thing just simply dragging it today Just like this and giving it a few little pops like nothing Nothing crazy, but just simply dragging the bait on the bottom Keeping that contact and then every once in a while just popping it and usually when you pop that there's little tails fluttering on that Crawl That's what creates that little reaction bite and they just cannot stand it You just twitch that tail and they just load up on that thing They just smack it because it gives that sporadic movement in the bait and those fish Just cannot take it you guys are wondering what we've been throwing at there's some rocks just about right here And then there's a big pipe that's sitting here. We caught about six fish right off this one hole They're just all stacked on these rocks real in that rattle chop right by and they just could not take it We tried a drop shot, but they just would not commit to it for some reason I've never seen a fish Especially just laying on rocks just not eat like a slow moving bait or a drop shot or whatever it is What was my mind? We are going to get this little old rage tail back out and see I can catch one under this tree. I'm pretty far away, but I still get it under it. There should be a big in under there. At least I know there's big ones in here now It's all about a five swimming around and then about three following me back I don't know if you guys see that little tiny cubby hole. I'm gonna skip right up in there Just like that right up in that tree See if there's a big fish up in there.  I skipped it all the way back. Yay Oh, he took my crawls. Help me out Bobby coming in hot We actually just took out of this place We're going to be going back to that small little puddle and possibly fishing it from the bank We were going to try because I saw at least a couple 10 pounders in the 12 pounders and some thoughts I've never seen anything like it in my life. There is some toads in that puddle It just blows my mind But we have about a mile towback with their kayaks literally not mine like this has been a rough episode Let me show you what Alan Bob's doing right now. Tell me what you got going on Bob I'm just tying up the kayaks Literally so we're tying these we had some ropes from yak attack and I we tied his to the back of mine Then we got these two ropes in the front Which we're going to throw over our shoulders and around our waist and towed it all the way back after this mild tow Why don't you get it going? Yeah, once we once we get past this Oh, I got him. What? He wasn't even big bro No He felt massive. That was probably the most embarrassing clip I've ever filmed. He felt like he was at least a solid four That's where I call that one out there You know, I'll do these felt so big man I got him. He ain't massive, but I'll take him. I will take him for the first fish in this puddle that we've been trying to fish all day Hey, yo people what's up back at you about the end of this video got Alan Bob in the back He was actually been practicing with my uh old drone It's like one of the first runs ever made and so he was just toying around with it Actually editing up this video right now. Sorry. I did not get to post this last night I've been having a lot of computer issues as well. I was just super exhausted yesterday But I've it's been super slow up and trying to figure out my computer But we're getting it out today you guys don't know my upload schedule is usually Tuesday thursday sunday 7 p.m eastern time is probably going to adjust your soon just depending on I mean our classes break that whole deal, but what I would like to say is oh man this pond that we went to Was insane guys. It's I know you didn't see much. I know we caught a lot of small ones But that little puddle was insane like I've never seen so many 10 to 12 pounders Like I saw literally like three there around 10 to 12 pounds I saw multiple around four to five pounds and it was just crazy I've never seen so many big fish in my life, but it was really hard to get them to bite See that pond was super super clear and when you throw a kayak in a super clear pond That's like a little puddle That's kind of what you get so the fish literally all knew we were there, but we gave it a try We tried a new area and made that happen at least and that was a toe I mean this was a video and a half guys. I want you guys to know that it doesn't seem like much But this is one of the hardest episodes I've filmed in the past like six years I've been running the channel But overall everyone if you guys enjoyed it be sure to pepper up that like button Be sure to follow Alan Bob on instagram be sure to follow me on instagram as well Yeah, you need to hit that subscribe button be sure to hit the post notification bell as well So it sends you post notifications after every single upload Thank you guys so much for the support and I catch you guys in the next video


Hi, my name is Valerio and I will be talking about the paper Lattice-based snarks, publicly verifiable, preprocessing and recursively composable. This is a joint work with Martin Albert, Russell Lai, Julio Malavalta, and Aravind Tayyagarajan. Before describing what we do in this work, let us first fix some notation. Snark stands for a succinct and interactive argument of knowledge. This is a proof system defined with respect to some NP-language L with the following interface. The public parameters are generated by running the setup algorithm and are distributed to both prover and verifier. Whenever the prover wants to prove that some statement is in the language, it runs the proof algorithm, using the corresponding witness, and obtains a proof pi, which is sent to the verifier. Using such a proof, the verifier can run the verified algorithm and decide whether to accept or reject. The properties that we require from such a proof system are completeness. That is, whenever the statement, witness tuple, used by the prover, satisfies the relation R, defined in the NP-language L, the verifier should accept. Knowledge soundness, that is, whenever an adversary makes the verifier accept, it should be possible to extract from such an adversary the witness corresponding to the statement being proven. These two properties alone are trivial to achieve by having the prover sending the witness to the verifier. What makes the construction non-trivial are the efficiency requirements. The first one is what we call succinctness and requires that the size of the proof should be polylogarithmic in the size of the statement. An even stronger requirement is what we call pre-processing. Here the verifier can pre-process in an offline phase the public parameters so that the online verification runs in time polylogarithmic in the size of the statement. Now that we have recalled what a snark is, we can state the question that we try to address in this work. The question is, is it possible to construct a snark that satisfies all these properties at the same time? The properties are post-quantum secure by which in a very liberal interpretation we mean any scheme not based on groups, publicly verifiable, which means that anyone could run the verification algorithm, pre-processing, which I have defined in the previous slide, algebraic by which we mean that the construction uses only algebraic operations defined over the mathematical structure that the scheme is constructed over, and structure preserving by which we mean that the relation checked by the verification algorithm should be supported by the snark itself. In this work we answer positively to such a question and to the best of our knowledge this is the first construction achieving all these properties at the same time. In particular, we show how to construct a lattice-based snark which is publicly verifiable, pre-processing, algebraic, and structure preserving. All these properties lead to a snark that is friendly to a grassy composition, that is a snark where it is possible to prove knowledge of a snark proof using the snark itself. This enables very powerful applications such as incremental verifiable computation. We show that the main and only ingredient to obtain such a primitive is a lattice-based vector commitment which supports opening to constant degree multivariate polynomial and which is extractable and compact. I do not have the time here to define all these properties but you can watch the long representation if you are interested. In our work we show that it is possible to compile such a VC scheme into a snark that satisfies their prior properties. In this way we reduce the task of constructing a snark to that of constructing a VC scheme. I will now sketch how to construct such a lattice-based vector commitment. This requires the introduction of a new binatural class of lattice-based knowledge and unknowledge assumptions. The roadmap that we use to obtain a VC scheme with the required properties is the following. We start by translating a pairing-based VC scheme that supports opening to linear function to the lattice word. But doing so we obtain a lattice-based VC which also supports opening to linear function that is weak binding and succinct. While translating the construction we also have to map the underlying assumption under which the scheme is proved secure. In doing so we obtain a new class of lattice-based assumptions that we call K ring in homogeneous short integer solution or crisis for short. Then using the fact that we are now working over rings we can show that the VC scheme actually supports opening to any polynomial map of constant degree. Then by introducing a knowledge version of the crisis assumption we show that the security of the VC scheme can be improved from weak binding to extractability. The only property left to upgrade is now succinctness. We achieve this by introducing an aggregation trick that involves embedding a ring SIS instance in the public parameters. In this way we obtain a VC scheme that satisfies all the properties required and that can be compiled into a snark. In the paper we also show other results. In particular we study the hardness of this new familiar lattice-based assumption and outline some native application of our snark. If you are interested in knowing more about this work you can read our full paper on a print or watch the full presentation of this work.


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I didn't start it It came to me and I followed the instructions because I was afraid Hundreds of people do it every day. So how can you blame me? Everybody in town knows me they respect me. I've always been a good wife By the morning it started. I was fixing George's breakfast Not just toast like some women fix but bacon and eggs and hot biscuits coffee ready I asked you not to wander off your bacon is burned or crisp. I told you I only wanted fruit juice and coffee Down to the road to pick up the mail. Why do you always run for the mail? Are you expecting something you don't want me to see George? If there was anything I didn't want you to see I could have it Sent to the office. Oh, could you I didn't know you were important enough to be permitted to receive personal mail there You know that's enough Burt Reynolds was appointed district manager. I should have gotten the job, but I didn't now Let's forget about maybe you can forget about it. But Abby Reynolds won't let me forget She has a high manner to her work now. She can spend half her day in town But not Leonora Copeland. No poor Leonora is bottled up here without a car without anything. Here's your coffee After all the trouble I've gone to I guess I can throw the rest of the breakfast out What was in the mail? Just this letter for you for me. Who is it from? I don't know Leonora.  Well, maybe you don't think so, but I think our luck is bad enough as it is I Couldn't send one to Abby Reynolds, of course, but I'd have to sign my name to it since you you're peeved with Abby She's fortunately spared Besides she'd tear it up. Yeah, she would that'd be just like Abby What's the name of the man they hire? I don't know Kurtz Something or other Kaczewski Peter Kaczewski You're not thinking of sending a copy to him why not George why not? It's absurd You don't even know the man I said one to him and he sends one to Abby Probably won't send it to anybody, but he will George. He's a foreigner. Isn't he and they're all so superstitious You'd have to send it to her. He may not even know anybody else suit yourself I need anything from town. No Time for me to be getting back to the office. It's very early George. You never used to leave so early. You used to eat a big breakfast I'm just not hungry. Maybe you'll be hungry by the time you get to town Then you'll have time for a second breakfast at the drugstore. You might even meet Miss Holden. She has her breakfast there Leonora, she's very pretty George not at all like your former secretary Betty Holden's a very efficient girl if she's pretty I've never noticed notice it George notice it while you're having your second breakfast I'll see you at dinner George didn't fool me a bit. He never did Some wives can't see the signs, but I could I cleaned up the house spotless That's where I kept it and I sat down with a letter. I made a copy and addressed it to mr. Peter Kaczewski care of Mrs. Abby Reynolds Then I made the second copy Whoever breaks the chain will meet with evil hadn't spoken to George about this copy. I Sealed it in an envelope and addressed it to Miss Betty Holden I mailed the letters and I waited patiently I Watched George's face the next night when it came home I had all his favorite things for dinner even had my hair put up the way he liked it best Not that he was ever pleased with the things I did for him. I wasn't the one he had on his mind Not very good company tonight George I find very little to say I passed your office today. You seem quite animated in there But perhaps you find this whole conversation more stimulating than mine. We were discussing something that was very embarrassing to me Leonora. Oh Why did you send her that letter? Two copies. That's what I did.  That's what she thought and so did I oh you and Miss Holden seem to think very much alike It's a pity. You're not married to her Yes, Leonora, it is a pity.  What other agreements do you have George? Why do you twist things? So I said what you said you think I'm deaf George. I'm not. I'm not blind either. She's my secretary.    I'll go to Bert Reynolds and tell him If you do that go ahead go ahead and hit me George because the secretary means nothing to you No, that wouldn't do any good with you Leonora. You're not worth it. You stay here and talk to me Where do you think you're going? I'm going out to the guest room over the garage where I go from there I'll decide later. You mean you're gonna stay out there.  You'll make sure that Betty Holden knows that they'll won't you Come back here to hear me They were talking about me. I could see it in their faces every time I went into town The woman is always to blame when something goes wrong But they didn't know what George was like I went to town every day whether I had to or not to show them I had nothing to be ashamed of Thursday was the day Abbey Reynolds did her shopping at the Bond town. I plan to meet her accidentally I'm so glad to see you. Hello. I tried to phone you this morning. Oh, I've been in town All day Bert told me to call you. I'm glad I ran into you instead. It's Well, there's something I have to tell you We know you meant no harm George has been criticized and meet a bird Why no dear I meant about the letter the chain letter you sent to Peter Kaczewski What harm could that do Abby? None. That's what Bert tried to tell him But he's a very quiet strange man and Well, you see Leonora his wife died yesterday. Oh No, I mean he got the letter a few days ago He can't read English so he usually brings his mail to Bert But his wife got sick that morning and he took her to the hospital He didn't bring the letter to Bert until this morning and without thinking of course Bert tried to reason with him, but he didn't seem to hear he just kept staring Then he turned and walked out of the house. He blames me. He thinks it's my fault. Why did you ever send it to him? Leonora, why did you pick? I swear I swear on my heart. I didn't mean you better tell George about it In case there's any trouble. Yes Yes, I'll tell George You see if I'd sent the letter to Abby it never would have happened That's what I would have done if she wasn't always trying to make herself better than I was I Wouldn't have been in this if it wasn't for her. I Let the barn tall and went to the square the country hill bus wasn't due for half an hour I couldn't stand there. So I walked out of town and I crossed the wooden bridge over the river Side road was pitted with ruts left by the rain and I stumbled in the heel of my shoe broke off I sat down on a patch of grass and tried to fix it And I heard a branch snap in the trees behind me It was a boy side never heard before But when I turned I knew the face It was Peter Kaczewski He was all dirty and unshaven and he had a half empty bottle in his hand.  I turn and started to run up the hill I got you behind me. He was getting closer and closer and the house was still a quarter of a mile away Is bringing you miss Agnes moorhead in the chain tonight's production in radio's outstanding theater of thrills Suspends what ignites a ignition system? 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He was standing along after me I heard the ball drop and break. I could see the house now and the clearing through the trees I started to cry couldn't run any faster just couldn't He was almost up to me. He reached out now. I felt his hand tearing at the back of my coat and then he fell He fell I didn't go down, but I didn't turn to look I crossed the clearing up the steps of the house I tore the class for my handbag to get the key Well, it was stuck Kaczewski staggered into the clear and I remember the spanky under the door mat got it and opened the door He had reached the port steps. I slammed the door and locked it in his face Come on I couldn't wait for you I lean against the door trying to get my breath I could feel kaczewski on the other side of it like a big crazy ape What did he wonder hurt me for? I took a chair and raced it under the door knob. Then I heard him move He padded down the port steps, but he wasn't going away. He was moving around to the back door I reached through the house. The door was locked Some of the storm wind is on the lower floor. I ran upstairs to the bedroom Georgia service revolver was in the bureau. I got it and opened the window I locked the bedroom door and slipped down the stairs to the telephone. Is George there? I must speak to him. He's out for the afternoon making some calls. Is is miss Holden there? No, I think George gave the afternoon off Oh, I see No, Bert. Did you tell George about kaczewski and the letter? Why you sent it? Is there anything else I can do for him? Well, if George comes in... I'll tell him to call you. Goodbye, Leonora Bert, I'm... Betty Holden knew she was keeping him in town This was what they wanted. They wanted something to happen to me He'd be getting dark soon. Kaczewski would come back and I'd be alone. I'd be all alone This is Mrs. George Coppina of Country Hill Will you call the police and ask them to send a car out? Somebody's trying to kill me Through any of the windows? No, but that... Well, Mrs. Carpenter, he wasn't carrying a weapon and he never actually touched you I can't arrest him for attempted murder There isn't even enough evidence for a simple assault I want that man arrested, do you hear me? Well, what you want has nothing to do with the law, Mrs. Carpenter You're supposed to protect people. That's what we pay taxes for Kaczewski pays taxes too, Mrs. Carpenter You'll fire a gun at him If you're smart, you'll drop this Haven't I the right to protect myself and my own house? In the house, yes But you were behind locked doors firing at a man out in the open If you'd killed him, you'd have been charged with murder Now take my advice and don't use that gun again unless somebody breaks in But that man is crazy, he's just crazy If I had a simple mind like his and the same thing happened to me, I might be crazy too But I can't locate my husband, I'm alone here You've got to find that man and arrest him, I demand that All right, all right, all right But all I can charge him with is trespassing We can hold him until his fine is paid and that's all Well, I don't care what you charge him with, arrest him, just arrest him He may bring counter charges against you What charges could he bring against me? I've never heard anybody, I've never done anything to anyone Well, I'm glad to hear that, Mrs. Carpenter, I like nice people Goodbye If you see my husband tell him to come home, tell him I'm alone here I don't know what I'll do alone When we find Kaczewski, I'll call you It started to get dark and I sat there listening to every sound Then it started to rain, I heard it pounded on the roof It frightened me If somebody came up to the house, I wouldn't be able to hear them Seven o'clock came and then eight, nine, ten I didn't dare light a light And I thought I heard a car George, it had to be George The hand lights flashed with the wind as the car turned into the driving And the moment later I heard his key in the lock What's the matter, George? Are you surprised to see me? All the lights were out, I thought you were in bed Oh, is that what you thought? Was that why you waited so long to come home? Where were you? Where I go is no longer any concern of yours You were with her All right, Leonora, I was for the first peaceful evening in 10 years, but not the last What are you saying, George?  Everybody knows it The police are looking for Kaczewski You have no feeling about what you've done to that poor confused devil, have you?  Because I know you, Leonora After 10 years I really know you You didn't send those letters the way other people send them I...  They can be that way again, George Let go of me You know I can make you happy, kiss me, just kiss me once Get out of my way No, George Dolly I tried to sleep, but I couldn't The rain got heavier Each time the lightning flashed, I could see the river below It was beginning to wash over the bridge I shot a toy loose and started to bang Should police headquarters, Mrs. Comden? Have you found Kaczewski? Yes, the boys brought him in about a half hour ago I did all I could What do you mean? Trespassing is a minor charge, Mr. Carpenter Bale was set at $25 Mr. Reynolds just came in and bailed him out You mean he's free? You let him get away? You've got to send somebody up here You can't leave me alone if he's loose I'm sorry, Mrs. Carpenter But there's a storm emergency Besides the bridge is washed out And I'm tying up the line talking to you Good night Lieutenant, Lieutenant Lieutenant I need operator Operator, get me Mr. George Carpenter At the Clearview Hotel I'm sorry, but the lines are open for emergency service But I must speak to him, I must I'm sorry, but the storm has washed out most of the lines We only have three circuits open for emergency But this is an emergency I'll tell you, it's a matter of life and death Just a moment Have a clear line Please make your call brief All right, all right Oh George, it's Leonora You've got to help me, please They arrested Kaczewski, but Bert Reynolds bailed him out I know it, Bert told me You, you know it The Kaczewski home put him to bed But he won't stay there He's crazy Come out here, George, I need you The bridge is out There's no road Well, you'll find a way to get here Oh, do you want me to go mad, George?  Go on, George Go on The line was dead Dead like I was gonna be dead Kaczewski would come They didn't know it, but I did The rain stopped And I sat there, listening to the tick Another clock It struck one, then two That was all It was so peaceful, and I almost dozed off So, something was moving outside I went to the window and saw the figure of a man Turning into the shadows behind the house I found the gun where I'd left it Under the sofa pillars I couldn't shoot him until he broke into the house I moved to the kitchen and waited I was fumbling with the door There was a metallic sound He was forcing something into the lock And then it clicked The door swung open He was framed in the center of it and I fired Through the house Opened the front door And started to run The road was a sea of mud I knew he was dead, but I could feel him behind me Chasing me I got to the river It was starting to flood But there was a boat coming across Or I just cried with relief When it landed, I ran to it A man jumped out Hello, Mrs. Carpenter My wife, she said, Mrs. Carpenter Look at me, lady Look at my face I'll give you money I'll give you money I won't say anything about this You can do anything Why you do this to me, Mrs. Carpenter? Why? What did I ever do to you?  You like to write letters? You like other people should die?  Who going to punish me, lady? You?    Yeah Good, shall I, though? Well, you better get your coat, Mrs. Carpenter Why, sir?  I had no reason But you did have a motive for killing him A very strong motive He left you, he was divorcing you He was going to marry another woman And you knew all that before you shot him But I didn't, I... 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At the end of January 1968, Saigon was alive with a festive spirit as everyone prepared for the Tet Lunar New Year. For the people of Vietnam, Tet is both a joyous and sacred time of the year. This was to be the first spring of the Second Republic of Vietnam. The Tet Truth, proposed by the Communist North Vietnamese, seemed to promise the people a safe holiday, free from the ever-present anxiety of war. At the temples, the people gathered to pay respect to their ancestors. On the eve of the new year, thousands of Saigon families prayed before the altars of their ancestors. They prayed that peace might be restored to their homeland. This year, however, the traditional firecrackers of the Tet celebration became the fireworks of war. The Viet Cong, taking advantage of the noisy celebrations, launched a savage attack on Saigon, violating the truth they themselves had proposed. Areas of the city became a blazing inferno. Columns of smoke rose skyward as block after block in the capital city burned with the fires of Viet Cong treachery. As the frightened people fled, many fell victim to the enemy gunfire. Government soldiers reacted quickly to counter the communist offensive and to protect civilian lives and property. First, fifth, and seventh districts of the capital. At Go Vap, at the Saigon radio, and the strategic intersections throughout the city, wherever the enemy appeared, south of the Vietnamese troops went into action. Many of the terrorists attempted to hide, and soldiers found them and brought them out. In a few areas of Saigon, the enemy seized and held the upper floors of tall buildings. Tanks were immediately deployed to these areas to help dislodge the Viet Cong. The enemy used his elite troops to attempt the capture of the Saigon radio station. Unable to seize his objective, the enemy set fire to the building. The Vietnamese airborne troops were quickly on the scene along with firefighting squads who put out the blade. These bodies are evidence of the miscalculation of North Vietnamese four-star general Vo Nguyen Giap. General Giap, who is credited with having planned the communist pet offensive, is the same officer who was victorious at the NBN Phu in 1954. Times, however, have changed. The loss of thousands of men and weapons has taught the communist general a grim lesson. This carefully planned attack by the North Vietnamese has been described as their all-or-nothing go-for-broke effort. It ended in dismal failure. Ten communist dead for each allied soldier lost is proof of the tremendous Christ they paid for their desperate attempt. By side with the combat soldiers, Thai war teams entered the dangerous areas. They called on the people to remain calm. In the city, the fearful civilians ran to government soldiers for protection. The soldiers led them out of the combat areas to safety in temporary refugee centers. Doctors and nurses at the medical store came to the aid of the civilian wounded in the city. Military and civilian ambulances speeded the evacuation of the seriously wounded. The real heroes of the day were the firefighting squads. Throughout the city, the Viet Cong set fire to heavily populated areas to cover their retreat. Each time, the squads had to be on hand immediately to put out the fires and to keep them from spreading. The firemen braved both the flames and enemy guns to perform their vital roles in the saving by God. Wherever the fighting was the heaviest, psychological warfare and civic action teams were on hand. The teams used their loudspeakers to tell the people the truth about the attack and how they could best escape to safer areas. The teams used their loudspeakers continually to appeal to the enemy to lay down his arms and surrender. Many Viet Cong responded to the call to surrender. Some areas and higher squads surrendered as a unit. These prisoners proved an excellent source of information. They told of the lack of morale and fighting spirit in their ranks. Some told how they had been forced to fight, but when their leaders had been killed, they willingly surrendered to the government soldiers. The battle progressed. The bodies of stubborn Viet Cong littered the streets. Files of red Chinese and Russian weapons were taken from the dead and defeated Communist troops. This elderly man, a lifelong resident of Saigon, showed the soldiers the best way to surround the area the Communists had infiltrated. Communist violence quickly turned large sections of the capital city into an inferno filled with frantic residents trying to save themselves and what few possessions they could carry with them. In a matter of hours, the homeless numbered tens of thousands. The fourth day of the battle, the focus of the conflict shifted to the heavily populated section of Sholok, the house-to-house fighting lasted for days. One of the bloodiest firefights occurred at the main intersection of the Binwa Highway, how far from downtown Saigon. Here the army succeeded in denying the Communists the chance to use the women and children of the area as human shields. Once the civilians were evacuated, the army saturated the area with a lethal display of firepower. As it goes off ammo dumps, the entire battalion of entrenched North Vietnamese regulars and V.C. proved no match for the Third Air Force battle group. They quickly circled the enemy and annihilated him. Many of these dead V.C. and North Vietnamese were forced from their farms and villages and sent to Saigon to face what their superiors knew was certain death. The wounded and bleeding were abandoned on the streets of Saigon by the Viet Cong. They were provided medical care by both civilian and military medical teams. Many of the victims were sick and undernourished even before the 7-day battle in Saigon. They were given medical care and here are some of the V.C. prisoners being interviewed by military correspondents. All the weapons captured here are from Russia and Red China. The homes of families were burned out of their homes in the attack. The government immediately launched a program to set up refugee camps in the stricken areas of the city. The residents returned into the ashes of their homes and sadly shuffled through the ruins to salvage what they could. Many of these people had been born in these houses and had reared their children in them. Now there was nothing left but ashes and memories. Days, troopers and marines were flushing out the last of the communists from the city. Other army units were busy relocating the homeless at the refugee centers where they could receive food and medical attention. Their fathers and husbands are dead. Here they are, helpless with their homes destroyed and possessions burned. The government now has the responsibility of caring for these orphans and widows as best it can while trying to prevent the communists from launching another devastating attack. Civic action teams also began a disease prevention campaign among the citizens, especially the refugees. Since civic action organizations from all over the world responded to the government's request for aid, food, medical supplies and clothing all poured into the refugee camps and were distributed to the victims. Truck after truck carried water in from outlying areas to the stricken city to help it get back on its feet. The food in the camps was simple but nourishing, children or children even in refugee camps. The Whacks supervised their play and recreation. As a health measure, the Army Engineer Corps began to collect the mounds of garbage and debris that piled up on the streets during the fighting and disaster mass. Tons of refugees were loaded into Army trucks and hauled away in an effort to help the residents get their neighborhoods back to normal. The people of Saigon have cleaned up the city and begun to rebuild. Barbed wire and barricades have given way to the traffic and activity typical of the big city. Life is returning to normal, yet the citizens of Saigon will never forget how the communists shattered the Ted troops with such devastation and violence.