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Oh there's a girl in there with him. Yes. There's a girl in there. She's very slim. My husband said he didn't want to get a look at her.  That's right.  So this is why I'm nervous. So wait why don't y'all wait so y'all y'all seen all this and waited this late. I'm watching the reaction like the nosy neighbor next door like come on now. This is why I've been calling this old woman and I don't even know if that's even. This officer need to call for backup because he's not he's I don't think he's him. He need to call for backup. He don't seem brave enough. You know a hundred percent you know a hundred percent.   Go do something. How long ago did they go in there. We don't know what we're not in here but my husband and I are in class to pull the dollar down because he has to be at work at 7.30, 7.15. Bro pulled out his notepad instead of going to go do a job. When he went out to get the dollar that's when and my dad used to keys in the garage all the time he was 80 years old so he forgets. So I believe this I do it so much and now I feel like the door's locked. My husband didn't bring the keys. Oh they're in the garage? This is your property you own this property? My mother does yes. Is she here now? She's awake yes. I just get a verification sheet. She doesn't know anything that's going on. Okay. I mean she can't walk you have to come here. If you don't mind. You have a dog? Yes but she's family but she's in the back sleeping with her dad. Okay okay okay. Okay we got back up. Well y'all got back up. There's a lot of guns going on right now. I didn't even do that.  The victim is in there officer?  So if you're going there get your shoes.  What's that girl's name? We can't hear you. Is there anybody else in here with you? What do you need to get down? She's in the ceiling? What am I watching? What am I watching? You want to start at 32? This the only camera angle we can use? Is there anybody else up there with you ma'am? No. This is probably the reason why I could never be a cop also because I don't have trust for cops. Also because that's just not in my blood. But it's just like they see too much. You know what I'm saying? How can you keep your composure? I would have no choice but to put my hands on one of these people. Like they too calm. I'm just like I be... I ain't even going to say it. But like come on man. Sometimes when certain officers are getting into these situations like acting like when you watch stuff like this you kind of get it.  All the stuff that they see on a day to day basis. Like hey yo I can't take another like sight like this. I see her up top. She moving? She coming down. There's no one else up there? Thompson? How far away is that? Oh my God. I'm just sitting down. Hey Chloe. Any weapons up there? We haven't even let you come out and check you out. Okay? Honestly because... Are you... What's that? Yeah that's what probably we're gonna do. Can I get... What's she saying? Are you freezing right now? Are you cold? You wanna go sit in the cruiser right now until the men unit gets here? They're right here. We'll see you can walk down. We're gonna have a seat. Can you get wet?  That's a good question man. I never understood how women could like... Not women but like men could like... That's wild man. That ain't no man. Hey just keep coming. Watch your step. Right there. There's a female in there. Come on out of here. I hear like you're praying now. Come on. What are you saying?  Knives, needles, thumbs, drugs. Hey come out man. Come out now. Watch. Okay we're working out man. We were thinking. So we'll get you to do one of these shoes. We'll get you to check socks and fuss in the county anyway.  I heard the other officer he said your socks are gonna get messed up in the county anyway. That's a fact bro. Forget your own shoes. I'm not getting that man's shoes. So when she was in this garage upstairs comfortably whooping on one of them that's tough. What's that girl doing? What's the females name? I can't hear you. I can't remember. Why is she hiding in the ceiling too? Right. You got your thing right here. How do you like it too? Something in your pocket here. I don't know. Doesn't feel like a tissue.  You're not the young one. How do you like it too? Okay. Come on man. Let's just rip the jacket. If I take it you know you have a parole violation. Hold on.  See this is the one thing that bothered me about police.  That's all the freedom I got bro We're gonna do more politics back on the wrong paper or something though Do you have shoes in there? Do they boot the shoes or what?  Fucked up or what? Maybe the seriousness just now hit him I'll figure that out I just don't have a pat half Yeah You probably want to Yeah Yeah You're talking to people Yeah I heard him talk to somebody He's already got him in the car I don't even hear him Hey Chloe I thought you said you didn't know where he was I didn't Now that was a name though man you're trying to communicate there already to be quiet You got some on your mind What's your name? How do you know this one? What's your name?  I don't know if that's how she came I think you said that's how she came Yep I love you Chloe If you just met her how do you- I love you Chloe You need delusion though You love her You love someone you just met? Yeah I love my stuff What stuff do you got in there to get? Your phone How does he know them? That's a good friend of ours for a couple years now Will He's not usually- He met her at a gas station like three months ago and that's when he relapsed He was sober until then Is that what he was doing? So he used to listen to her? Yes he paroled here Matha do it to you I don't know nothing about that math but it did do it to you Yes his parole officer he even noticed Did she live in the garage? No no no no I haven't talked to him in almost four months because he ended up going back and I just- I have to separate myself Absolutely not My dad is out here every day in the garage literally every day so there's no way but my dad forgets the key a lot and the cycle is always a lot and will know that Did you go back and look in the garage? No I didn't On October 12th 2023 23 year old Chloe Jones had been walking home from an undisclosed location out of nowhere That was not- that ain't Chloe but it continued 33 year old William Mazingo pulled up beside her and asked if she wanted a lift The pair had known each other for William is guilty A brief period leading up to this point is thought they were somewhat friendly and so she accepted the kind gesture However ladies and gentlemen Y'all be trying to tell me like oh you can't judge a book by its cover Society will tell you you can't judge a book by its cover Yes you can This is the cover This Bro this is the cover I'm judging That would turn out to be a life threatening mistake You see, instead of taking her home William took Chloe to the garage just off West Wilberth Road He had lived at the poverty itself previously It should be noted though that by October 12th he hadn't visited in a while It isn't entirely clear how Chloe responded at the garage or whether she had really hurt in that picture I don't know I was doused with gas and repeatedly hit with a baseball bat I feared for my life countless times I can't even count how many times he threatened my life As you already know Chloe was saved thanks to the family that lived at the house Although she suffered from fractured skull, a badly bruised face a broken arm and psychological trauma She had all of that A badly bruised face fractures called a broken arm to be survived and made at home to her son It was It was petrifying You can see my face it's um Maybe that was her little picture Chloe is bruised from head to toe She's wearing a hood to protect a still healing skull fracture But this 23 year old wants everyone to hear her story I want to tell the young girls from across America It's not safe to get cars with people you don't know or meet up with friends through friends It's terrifying being a fear for your life She won't be scarred for life Countless times I can't even count how many times my son did I thought about him every day I just saw his little face in my head every day He has been convicted three times for the exact same offenses and he was allowed to reoffend over and over and I am angry This is not acceptable You don't deserve to you know get to live life the way normal people should and I hope that I hope that there is something that will come to light for him This is what I gathered from the story She knew him before she hopped in the car They were familiar with each other I'm not placing any of the blame on her but it's like it's 2023 Who's happening in anybody's car You need a ride? No I don't I'm walking It's my leg bro Am I walking just fine? Right no we're not happening in cars anyway continue William was no stranger to the law and this wasn't his first rodeo This was the sixth incident of its kind From what we know of his criminal history he was jailed for an unknown length of time in 2011 for abduction When he was jailed for that offense he had been on parole for kidnapped offenses relating to a different incident In 2014 William was handed a 9 month jail sentence for a separate abduction case Then in 2017 he was arrested for holding a woman at knife point in a Walmart And while out on bail for that incident he abducted a woman known as Mackenzie Mastin and her young brother I was repeatedly beaten and threatened with a knife after William abducted me and my younger brother at a house in Canton He would continuously put a knife to our throat saying that he was going to kill us He would threaten to break my jaw if you know I cried or yelled for help or anything So what's going on with the Ohio judicial system like no offense like he did all this he went to court with this and was out and anything like that He would continuously beat on us my eyes were all blacked out and swollen from him doing that to us He had us locked in a room for 3 days and he kept saying that we weren't going to be able to go back home to my parents It was probably the scariest experience of my life William was handed an 18 month sentence for the abduction of Mackenzie and her brother He was released in December of 2018 Just 4 months after he was released he struck out again On April 4th 2019 William abducted his then 29 year old ex-girlfriend She was taken to a house in an undisclosed location in Stark County, Ohio After she was saved she was beaten strangled and at various times had a knife held to her throat Eventually she would escape 4 days later on the 8th After she escaped she headed straight to a local police station and warrants for William to run Not going to lie man Ohio police Ohio judicial system Ohio judges everything in Ohio should be embarrassed about this one Best were put out immediately Sadly though he got to her before police got to him On April 12th 2019 the 29 year old was found lying topless with a severe head injury on Cobbler Road 30 miles from where she had previously been abducted When deputies arrived at the scene she told them that William had tracked her down just 2 days after she escaped and that once she had been abducted for a second time he subjected her to more beatings After being held for 2 days she was then taken to Cobbler Road and left her When she got out and went to the police the police did nothing and she got abducted again What's Ohio police it's not that ok it is a lot of crime in Ohio especially in Cleveland and in certain parts of Ohio but come on man that's crazy got to that serious It wasn't the police who tracked William down in the end though And it wasn't the police It was actually a member of the public You see around the time the girl was found by deputies William had been hitchhiking he needed a lift to Carrollton So when a member of the public offered him a lift he of course took it but instead of going to Carrollton the member of the public took him straight to the police station and handed him in At this moment in time it isn't entirely clear why the man did this For this incident William was charged and jailed for kidnap, assault trespass, a domestic violence related charge and a parole violation but the length of time he spent in jail isn't known However it couldn't have been that long because in October of 2023 he was back up to his old tricks Bro it's a serial repeat offender just the old way to kid at this point he don't need to be out he gonna keep offending he gonna keep offending on the same exact charge like he's not unaliving unaliving anybody but like at some point a judge gotta be like this is the road you're going down go sit down for 40 years it's over I'm tired of Ohio that's why I only been to Ohio one time and it was boring shout out to the guys in Ohio but I ain't visiting I'm good ain't no food ain't no fun for what I'm going to Ohio for to look in the bronze birthplace like no I'm good salute tell him leave a like comment subscribe turn on the post I'm gone


Today's episode of the Anthony Anderson Show is brought to you by mountgox.com. That's mtgox.com and usgoldcoins.com, 1-800-HOTCOIN and mezzigrill.com. That's m-e-z-e-g-r-i-l-l.com. Greetings, everyone. This is Anthony, coming at you live from New York City. It's August 6, 2011. Mercury is in retrograde and things are a little wacky. We're holding down the fort. Got a lot of stuff to talk about today. Don't have any guests in the studio. It's just going to be me talking about some things, some stuff that I've been up to. I got a really good email question and I want to cover that. So we're just going to kind of go with the flow. This show might not even go for the full hour. It might even go to like 40, 45 minutes as well. So at first I want to talk about my little bag of tricks. And a lot of people kind of ask me about, you know, with the modeling stuff and what kind of things I like to bring along with me to the castings and this is like a kind of a good overall thing that I like to have with me no matter what because it's like kind of hot right now and I'm sweating and so I have my little bag just like this and it says beauty fix on it and I didn't, you know, whatever. So what I like to really bring is we found this deodorant called crystal essence and they're not affiliated with me in any ways, but we tried this out and it's actually a lavender and white tea mineral deodorant body spray and it's really nice and there's no aluminum chlorohydrate in it which is really good and it's paraben free. A funny thing about parabens is that I went to Deb and I from Debbie does raw. We were in Los Angeles and we went to the Lush soap company and they have parabens in their soap, but they said that these parabens are derived from blueberries and not from chemicals or something. So look into that. Maybe Google parabens, methyl parabens and blueberries and see if there is a connection because I was really surprised. I always thought parabens were just these chemianasty things, not really cool. Just today we got this one, it's called natural liquid rock and it is a paraben free deodorant and it's from Kiss My Face and this one seems to be really nice. I mean, it's got water, potassium alum, which I'm wondering if that's aluminum. I wouldn't think so, but some other things. There's willow bark extract, some kind of lichen, sodium phytate, a couple other things. No big deal.  This is from a company called Himalaya. It's a neem pomegranate one, really cool. My little mini toothbrush, floss. I have some Tom's deodorant. This stuff isn't as strong I think. I feel like the crystal essence has been treating me far better than that. A little sunscreen, Dr. H's sunscreen, really cool. A tongue scraper, really important. When you wake up in the morning and there's that white film tongue, from what I understand that's actually toxins being expelled by your body and it makes a little film right on the upper layer of your tongue. If you just go about your day and swallow that stuff again, it's going right back into your system. Give it a little scrape and wash that stuff out. You would be amazed how good it is for preventing halitosis, which means stanky breath. I think a big part about bad breath is that people don't floss and little bits of teeth get stuck in the back. You can always tell when you're talking to somebody if they don't floss, you can kind of smell it. Little portable razor, sometimes I bring my beard trimmer with me, but that's not too important. A little eyeglass case and then I always like to bring a little mint oil or some kind of clove oil. This is Chef Ito's love potion number nine, if I'm not mistaken. I was in California about a month ago and we went to a lock and he got this for me.  It's super heating. It's supposed to be good for getting the blood flowing, keeping the boys and girls happy. My favorite cologne, wow, it's really strong at the moment and actually for a long time is the Te there from Lasatani and a lot of people would, I think they want to pronounce it lactane, but I think it's actually Lasatani and it's a really, really nice scent. It's fresh. This is my little bag of goodies. When I go up in the elevator for a casting, I'll get ready, maybe bring another shirt with me and that way I'm not sweating because I've got a lot of appointments during the day time and freshen up and then you're good to go. Little mint oil would also be nice, but this love potion number nine has really been treating me well. I got a really great email about chickens and she was asking me some stuff like she's thinking about getting chickens and what she wants to, she's kind of confused about things, you know, how to start. And I just want to pull this up because she asked a lot of really awesome questions that I think we would all seriously benefit from. Let me read this out really quick and then we'll just kind of break it down and answer the questions. Hi, Anthony, I'm looking into getting a couple of baby chickens. Which breed do you recommend in terms of brown egg layers and rainbow egg layers? And I think by rainbow egg layer, she means the Easter egg kind, which lay the pastel light green, light blue eggs. Is it true that hens don't need roosters to lay eggs? Anything in particular to look for, shots, etc., when buying these chickens? For deep orange yolks, what do you feed your hens and chicks? Is there any material that you recommend reading concerning how to care for chickens before I purchase them? Sorry for all the questions. I just want to be well prepared. Thank you for your time, Francine. And I haven't even replied yet. I just got this a little while ago, but this is a lot of really good questions, so check this out. Which breed do you recommend in terms of brown egg layers and rainbow egg layers? Brown egg layers, as far as I can tell, the best ones to get would be Rhode Island Reds or Black Sex Links. Black Sex Links are, they're kind of a combination with the Rhode Island Red and maybe another bird, obviously another chicken. But my favorites for sure, as far as brown egg layers, are the Rhode Island Reds because they're a very hardy bird and they're a very low maintenance bird. You can tell they're reptilian, they're little dinosaurs, they do their thing, they're very focused, they'll attack bugs and they'll attack lizards and scorpions and whatever else they can find. And it just seems like you could let them be and that they would be able to fend for themselves. And they're a nice meaty bird, so if you're looking for an all-purpose bird, which means egg layers and then possibly for eating as well, eating their bodies and not eating the eggs, but eating their actual bodies, that would probably be a Rhode Island Red because they put on a lot of weight pretty fast, but it's not like a Cornish Rock Hand, which is a total hybrid mutant from the factory farm industry. Those put on enough weight in two months alone to be ready for slaughter. On the other hand, maybe it'll take a Rhode Island Red, maybe three months, maybe even four months, but you have a much healthier bird. It's a free-range bird, usually I would hope, and it's just going to be able to, because let's say you have a hen and she lays a bunch of eggs, and we'll get back to the rooster part in a second, but you have males and you have females. So by about two months, three months, four months, you can kind of tell who are your cockerels and who are your pullets.  And a really good way to check that is to take a little, like a playing card, you know, like the 52-deck playing card, slide it right by their neck and underneath their first layer of feathers, and if the feathers are rounded, it's going to be a hen, and if they're more pointy, they're going to be a rooster, and that way you can sex them, and then that way you know which ones go into the pot and which ones are for your egg layers later on. That's a really good idea. I got that from a show called River Cottage, and you can find that on Channel 4 in the UK. River Cottage is probably one of the best shows pertaining to holistic living, making your own food, raising your own food, living this kind of lifestyle that I'm a big fan of. River Cottage inspired me massively. Hugh-Fernley Wittenstahl is a genius. Is it true that hens don't need roosters to lay eggs? It is true. They do not need roosters. Roosters will fertilize these eggs, so you're going to have baby chickens, but I think another part of it, roosters, they're very loud. Roosters are very aggressive with their hens, where they'll beat up on the hens to keep them in line, and if you try and introduce a new hen into the flock, not only does that poor hen have to compete with the other females, but then she has to compete with this rooster, and I've seen roosters like tearing feathers out and just being really aggressive, so I'm not really, I'm not honestly a big fan about having roosters around. I don't think the protection is really all that worth it. They will kind of do their thing and protect, and you can walk up to a rooster and they'll start to kind of attack you, and you have to have a little stick and kind of push them away, and those things might come in handy, but overall I think with the noise and the aggression that they put out, I just don't think it's worth it. So, if you want to have more babies, you can just buy fertile eggs from a friend and then put them underneath a broody hen.  So what you can do is you can slip underneath her some fertile eggs, she's going to think that they're hers, they're going to hatch, she's going to raise them, she's going to protect them, and then you're going to get your half and half batch of males and females.  Overall with permaculture and all this stuff, chickens are probably one of the best animals to raise because not only are they giving you good quality nutrients in their fertilizer, which means they're poop, but you can, let's say like, okay, I want to go and do some wild harvesting, and there's only so much stuff that I can eat without a lot of processing, but with the chickens I can just be cutting grass in the alleyways, I can be, you know, whatever, I can find some landscapers and get big bags of grass and just dump that all over the place and they can just eat it, and those types of things really make it a lot easier to feed them and you don't have to worry so much and you're just going to get better quality, better quality meat, eggs, you're going to get better quality, you know, fertilizer as well, and your whole neighborhood is going into these chickens and then they eat it and then they, you know, comes out in the form of eggs that you eat or a poop that you use to fertilize your garden, so it's really, really good. I mean, even compared to, I mean, if rabbits laid eggs that would be awesome. If goats, you know, laid eggs, goats, you have to milk twice a day usually, so that's a lot more work. It's a lot more intensive time just kind of keeping tabs on everything and they're very, they can be very destructive. Chickens can be destructive too, but you really have to realize that they're a tool, but they can be a tool that can get out of hand, so you want to kind of fence them in and I'm all about pastured and free range, but if you can set them up in movable pens so they can keep doing their thing and eating grass, they have to eat grass and they have to eat leafy greens if you're going to get good yolks, but letting them go totally free range is kind of an idealistic idea because you want them to be totally all over the place, but then you realize that they're pooping on your lawn furniture and they're pooping on your barbecue and it's not as romantic as you think, so it's kind of good to have them structured. They're kind of like kids where they need a little bit of structure. Anything in particular to look for, shots, etc. I don't know if they actually give vaccines to baby chicks. I hope not. I don't think they do and I wouldn't even want that. I feel when chickens eat a healthy diet, it's just like humans. If you eat a healthy diet loaded in minerals and omega-3s, you just don't get sick. You don't need vaccines.  All the doctors, all the hospital, the nonsense, the insurance, you just don't get sick anymore and it's the same way with animals.  I haven't been sick in eight years since I've been eating a whole foods diet with real food and not processed. It's just like, it's a no-brainer and I think that's why it's so obvious that we're fed all this garbage because it makes us sick.  When you buy their feed, look for the soybeans. You want to give them organic feed. You don't want soybeans in there.  If you're in a small contained area, you might have to import a lot of food but you can actually do that with vegetable scraps and I highly recommend feeding chickens like fish, feeding them other, not chickens, but feeding them like roadkill and meat and just a lot of nasty stuff because that's what they like to eat and that's where all the nutrients are and they say that a chicken and a hawk will eat the same exact diet but if they're sitting together at the same table, the hawk is going to eat the chicken but they're eating all the same stuff so remember that.   I mean chickens are crazy so don't worry about all that kind of stuff. For the deep orange yolks, what do you feed your hens or chicks? You have to feed them leafy greens or grass. There has to be all the vitamin A, the beta carotene and then that's going to show in the yolks. When I was living in Arizona, I would go drive around and I would cut grass from the alleyways and it took about four to five days, maybe even a week to start seeing the real deep change and then they would eat all that grass. I'd have to go back to California and do some stuff with castings and stuff in Los Angeles and then I'd come back two weeks later and the yolks would be yellow again. They'd be pale yellow because they're just eating the organic feed. They're not eating and maybe they're eating bugs too but they need to be eating leafy greens, veggie scraps. Unless there's piles and piles of spinach for your veggie scraps or whatever, it's not going to show. They need to eat big bags of grass and big bags of leaves and that could be like mesquite leaves, that could be anything but they need to get the greens inside them if you hope to get the orange yolks. It's almost like the same if you're eating tons of spirulina or tons of foods with beta carotene. The palms of your hands will start to turn orange and almost like the area around your mouth will turn orange and the bottom of your feet will turn orange. That's the vitamin A coming out of your body because it's almost overloaded. It's the same idea.  If you're drinking tons of green juice with no fat in it, that vitamin A is going to go right through your body.  So, stir in a little bit of coconut milk, a little coconut oil, whatever it takes, even take a few spoonfuls of coconut oil and then drink your green juice, whatever it takes, but you need to mix it with fat if you hope to absorb the vitamin A. Is there any material that you recommend reading concerning how to care for your chickens before I purchase them? We really jumped head first right in and it's just kind of like common sense. There's a website called Backyard Chicken Breeder or BackyardChickensMyChicken.com. Just go online. You really don't even need any books. There's lots of forums. Go to permys.com. That's P-E-R-M-I-E-S permys.com. Look on their chicken section and see what Paul Wheaton is talking about because he has a really good chicken system set up kind of based off of Sepp Holzer's ideas. Sepp Holzer is a permaculturist in Switzerland. I was going to say Austria, but it's Switzerland. Check out Permys. You don't even have to buy a book. I mean, the only book that I would really recommend reading, a few of them, would be Gaia's Garden and then Edible Forest Garden's Volume 1 and 2 and maybe some stuff by Bill Mollison. There's a lot of good books out there that are going to teach you a lot, but if you want to cut to the bone, rubber to the road, just go online permys.com. Thanks so much for the questions. I just want to be well prepared. Thank you for your time. That's the thing with chickens. It's like, it's almost nicer with animals compared to plants because the animals will give you direct feedback pretty fast. And if you just have, if you're going to get chickens, you can start with hens. They're probably going to cost about three dollars a piece, maybe 250. I would also get, oh, sorry, I didn't cover this about the brown egg layers, as well the rainbow egg layers, look for the arucanas and the amerucanas.  And they might be white. They might be gold. We have one Prudence. Her name is Prudence. She's in Phoenix. I haven't seen her since March, but beautiful chickens, beautiful chickens. An interesting thing to think about is a lot of people freak out about coyotes and hawks and predators. And as far as I know, there were three chickens that died in Arizona. And one was because she was egg bound and she was a leg horn. One of the white ones with the red, with the red, um, beard kind of thing going on. I don't even know the name of it. It shows how out of it I am right now. She got egg bound or the egg got stuck in her. And then like the stuff was coming out like she was pushing. It looked like she had really bad hemorrhoids. It was horrible. And tried to nurse her for the night and it just didn't work out. And we ended up having to take her out of her pain because she was really in a bad spot. And then the other two were actually suffocated by their sisters because they all wanted to lay eggs in the same box. And there would be four stacked on top of each other trying to lay an egg. And then the one on the bottom would either die of asphyxiation or heat exhaustion or something, but then they would be dead. Chickens are not the most intelligent animals on the planet. Don't let Disney humanize them for you because they're definitely reptilian and they are very basic minded. They have motherly instincts, but really they'll suffocate their sisters because they don't even know. And they'll just like beat up on each other and peck at each other. And it's really kind of romanticized, but they are, they're wonderful birds. You can pet them. They are very calm and usually pretty docile if you raise them as a chick. But what I would almost suggest is probably just going on Craigslist and buying some hens for $10 or $12. And then just cutting right to the chase because you have to think you're going to raise them for about five to six months before you see your first egg. And then how much food is that going to cost? Is it going to cost more than $10 in food? I would think so to keep a chicken alive for six months is going to cost you more than $10. So you might consider just buying some adult hens and getting on with it instead of all the fuss. A lot of people like to raise the chicks and be that, you know, do all that kind of stuff.  Buy the adult hens, get them all together and start getting your eggs going because it doesn't make any sense to feed chicks for six months waiting for eggs. And then once they're producing and that, you know, you can put some fertile eggs underneath, then you can have your chicks. And then the mother hen is going to raise the chicks for you. You don't have to keep them near a heat lamp and make sure that they're walking. It's a lot of headaches. And if you're busy, it's very, just go with the adults. You know, it's kind of fun to have the chicks, but in reality, go with the adults. As far as what else I can tell with the chickens, really make sure they are protected just in case because you might have a busy area. The hens will make some noise in the morning when they're laying their eggs, but otherwise they're pretty quiet and they don't like to wander around too much. They'll be free range, but they don't, they're not going to like fly into the other yard or they never even went out into the street as far as I remembered. And then I was just like harvesting prickly pear cactus and they're just like chomping on that stuff and get, you know, they can just eat stuff that we can't eat and then they can grind up all the seeds and in their gizzard and it's really like an awesome thing. So let me know if you have any questions about that. Even shoot me an email at anthonyatrawmodel.com or hopefully that answered a lot of questions, but really just go to permies.com and they have their forms and they talk about all kinds of livestock, pigs, chickens, goats, guinea hens, pheasants. You might even want to get some pheasants because they lay those pretty brown eggs and they're not going to be as productive. If you could choose anything, I would probably go with ducks because ducks are very quiet, they eat slugs, they won't scratch up a garden.  Ducks on the other hand are just kind of kind of, you know, waddle around and do their thing and it's not going to be so intense.  Pretty cool. So let me know, whatever, it's all good. On that note or not on that note, we can talk about a little bit of spring water. We went to Cold Spring Harbor about two weeks ago, myself and my friend Matt Mueller and we drove out there from Brooklyn and I think it took about 45 minutes to maybe an hour and you go out to this area called Cold Spring Harbor. It's near Oyster Bay and there's actually a really cool arboretum in Oyster Bay. And Cold Spring Harbor, the spring is actually right across from the library. And check it out on findaspring.com. Findaspring.com. That's Daniel Vitalis's site along with, God, I'm like blanking out here, raw food right now, Heidi and J.S. And they all started that site along with Drew Mill, who's actually having a birthday today. Happy birthday Drew Mill, very cool buddy, 29 years old, going strong. He's Drew Mill of the Clean Program. I'm sure a lot of you know the Clean Program. They all started findaspring.com and findaspring.com is just a, it's a directory of all these springs across the world that you can go and actually harvest your own spring water. And this water is actually from Cold Spring Harbor. And what I really love about spring water is that it's always tested, usually it's never a mystery. There's always locals that live in this area and they've been drinking this water for decades. And they know that it's clean. And even like the city or the state will test it occasionally. So you really don't have to worry about any poisoning. The coolest thing is that it has been underground for possibly hundreds, if not thousands of years. So this is pre-industrial water. Like this water was sitting in an underground lake two weeks ago. And this was before pollution was invented, invented. This was before radiation, nuclear fallout, all that nonsense that humans decided to bring to the planet. This water predates that. So this is the cleanest thing that I'm ever going to find on planet earth. And like Daniel Baital said, it's the cleanest thing and you get to put it in your body every single day and it becomes your blood. Like the water that you drink now will become your blood. So that's a really huge idea to think from. We're always thinking about like, oh, the food, the food, the supplements, the food, what kind of chompy stuff are we going to be eating. Not really giving much credit to the water, but knowing that our bodies are 75 to 80 percent water, it's a really big part of the game. So what are you making your body with? Where does that 75, 80 percent coming from? Is it coming from the tap? Is it coming from something in a bottle? Like this originally was a pole and spring bottle. And how long was this bottle of water sitting on the shelf? You know, maybe like six months or maybe I don't even know if there's even like a date on it. Sometimes they don't even tell you. It actually says drink by February 24th, 2012. So just think of how long this water has to kind of start to leech away at this plastic. And now that it's like fresh in there, fresh out of the ground, super structured. The TDS is like 30 or 45. It's really low. It's been distilled by the planet. It's been filtered by the planet. It's been incubating, sitting underneath the ground for a long, long time. And when you drink it, you just know how velvety and silky it is. And that just lets you know like really how pure I feel. I mean, it's just some of the cleanest water that I've ever had. And for the cost of some gasoline and a day trip, it's yours for free. So you don't even have to buy water anymore. And that's, I mean, really, that's why I love like Daniel Vitale so much is that bringing findespring.com, Heidi and JS2 of course, but it's such a great free resource that I basically eliminated my water cost. And I don't even have to worry about filtration anymore. That's really the key. And it's like, it's the same thing with wild, wild food. Like this is wild water. So wild food, wild water, it's actually the best possible form of nourishment that you can get. And usually it's free if you're willing to invest the time and energy into harvesting it yourself. So not only is it therapeutic to be eating foods and drinking water like that, but it's totally therapeutic to be going out into nature and with your own hands, harvesting your own water and bringing it home with you. And then we'll just drink that for the month. We'll get like a one month supply. It'll probably cost $20 in gasoline. Maybe three or four of us will go out there. We'll go for a hike. Maybe go to the whole foods out there, go to the arboretum. And we just got like an awesome stash of the best possible water that I couldn't even buy if I wanted to because no one offers it. Even like Fiji water or Voss or Iceland, all these good ones that I would actually really like, they're, they have to be cooked. They have to be sterilized because if not, you know, things are going to start forming in that water because there's natural things in the water that are still alive. It's living water. So they have to cook it. So you're drinking cooked kind of dead water or it's going through a pipe and it has to be chlorinated and they're always putting the fluoride in there and whatever else. I remember a story coming from Texas, I think six months ago that they were finding radiation. This was before Fukushima, but they're finding radiation in the water. And the big secret was that they were actually putting the radiation in the water. Check out infowars.com for that and Google Texas water radiation and see what you find because that was like a really messed up story. And you just can't trust that stuff. So that's why I'm all about the spring water. You can do rainwater if you want to, but think about what's in the air right now. Think about if you can filter it out with like a burky filter. That would really be the only filter that I would recommend now is a burky filter that's B-U-R-K-E-Y. And that was actually invented by British troops like a hundred years ago and they would filter swamp water through this thing. And then it would out would come pure water. So you could actually probably urinate in this stuff and then get pure water coming out of it. It's kind of a crazy idea, but that would be the only way I would really want to drink rainwater now because I'm thinking radiations up in the sky, whatever else the exhaust and that's coming down liquefied by the rain and it's just like not something that I really want to deal with. I like the spring water. It's been protected for millennia and now you get to drink it. I mean and really once you drink it and okay another thing too when I harvest spring water I like to harvest it in these bottles called better bottles and they're plastic and it's like a non-leaching brewing bottle that they make for making wine and beer. And it's I think the it's the number one maybe and you can check out better-bottle.com. It's an option. What I like about that is that it's light and then it's not going to break in the car because a lot of people they get the big five gallon mountain valley spring bottles but they're glass then a lot of times people will break them.  Sometimes also I get these a half gallon glass bottles from Strauss Creamery and that's kind of a west coast grass-fed milk operation. These little half gallon glass and you put them in a milk case or a milk crate and I think it holds maybe six gallons because there's either 10 or 12 of these bottles and they just stack really nice and you only have to hold one bottle at a time just like this. This is a lot lighter than a five gallon jug and if I were to trip and fall on a big glass five gallon jug that thing could I could you know it would break and they could like cut a huge hole in my body and it's not something that you want to deal with especially now that fall is going to be coming winter's coming people are going to slip on ice. Try and go with the better bottles or go with smaller glass bottles and then get it into glass when you get home. If you know it's going to be a long-term storage thing get it into the glass and then you're going to be better than you know having it sit in plastic for a little while. Well the water's so good. Let's do a little oh let's talk about Mt. Gox and our sponsors. Mt. Gox online exchange services for bitcoins they now take euros, British pounds, Australian dollars and now Canadian dollars. 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So if you have bitcoins and you want to buy stuff with bitcoins and you want to buy some food with bitcoins go to Mezzy Grill and they're just a couple blocks south of Columbus Circle and they're now on the NYC clean plates so that's great you know it's clean food we want to be eating clean food and I've had their food it's awesome they've got lamb they've got vegetarian options it's all primo stuff so uh let's talk about some events coming up I'm doing a talk on August 11th at Organic Avenue and that's organicavenue.com check the events section if you scroll over a little bit to your right you'll see the events right there and then I should be on top now because it's coming up pretty soon I'm going to be giving a two and a half hour lecture workshop talk called a model for living and that's kind of this blueprint formulation that I've made in the past I would say eight years I started getting into this holistic lifestyle in 2003 2002 getting conscious about what I was eating having to really step up my game for modeling exercises that I've learned books that I've read things that I feel have really helped me along the path this talk is all about condensing those eight years of struggles and triumphs and trials and tribulations into this really great condensed two and a half hour lecture and we're going to be doing some guided meditations I want to be giving away a lot of samples from Amazon herb company I recently joined teams with them and they sent me a bunch of stuff that I'm supposed to sell but I just want to actually give it away to people and get them excited about these products and I really believe in this company they're doing some amazing stuff with reforesting the Amazon and empowering indigenous cultures and tribes down there to really support the forest and not feel like they have to cut it down and grow soybeans and GMO corn or even sugarcane you know like Brazil talks so big about how they're powering all these cars on sugarcane but these fields used to be Amazonian rainforest so people can drive around in their cars I don't really see what's so awesome about that so the trick is to show everyone that there is an intrinsic value there's an economic value if people are so obsessed with money and all that kind of stuff there they need to know that there's a value in an intact rainforest there's Brazil nuts I had Brazil nuts this morning there's which is a wild food Brazil nuts camu camu you know chichu huasi coca maca all all like you know acerola all these different really powerful superfoods potty arco cats claw ayahuasca that's not for sale but all these things are coming out of the amazon and they're they're very very powerful foods coming from a magical place on the planet and people are cutting it down to grow soybeans to feed cows or to feed humans GMO soy it's nonsense we got to stop that right now and the only way we're going to do it is by playing the economic game and showing people that there's money involved so that's the whole thing amazon herb company I'm giving away a bunch of freebies we're going to be making samples they've got a great rainforest tea that we're going to be handing out and I'm actually going to be handing out some spring water samples too so people can see how awesome spring water is and maybe I can encourage them to start going and buying spring water but harvesting their own spring water I mean if you're going to buy some water go for it I mean no matter what you're probably going to have to because you're not going to have it set up so you can keep doing the spring water day in day out but if you can please try it and that's what this event's about I want people to try this stuff I want people to kind of immerse themselves in my world and see what works what doesn't and I'm just kind of really tired about health gurus telling people what to eat and how to live and they just don't look like vibrant living people and they're supposed to be eating the best foods on the planet and I don't know you know so I'm looking for people that are walking the walk doing their thing you know super sharp looking good and that's what this talk's all about it's like I've had to really step up my game to make money in New York City as a model it's really competitive I mean there's so many guys that look like me and for me to be able to work I really need to be in good shape I need to be lean I have to have clear eyes I have to have good skin I have my hair has to be good my nails have to be healthy and that's where all this real whole food raw food all came into play and the exercise stuff and I had to determine a way to stay active with exercises so in about like two minutes we're going to start doing a few exercises that I learned and then I'm going to I'm going to do this very extensively during the talk but I want to show you maybe like two or three quick things so everyone at home you know I want to make sure this is really spreading far and wide so you can really enable yourself to stay consistent because that's the key I don't really care what someone's technique is I don't care if they're doing this or this or whatever you know I just want to know how long they've been doing it because really the people that you see at the gym and they've got the results they've been just doing it and they know how to do it and they know how to give a little extra they know how to give a hundred percent and they're making it fun obviously or they're motivated enough to keep going back to the gym because with me it was like the financial motivation I knew like if I was going to make a bunch of money I had to a bunch of money that's all relative I had to stay you know really in good shape so I was finding out ways to multitask and listen to things so I started listening to audio books and I started listening to podcasts and interviews and and good music and Spanish lessons and French lessons and and by doing that I was able to develop my mind as well as develop my body and I knew like oh you get this one of the best websites you can check out is oneradionetwork.com and that's Patrick Tempone's site Andy Goss is on there twice a week talking about money but his interviews are usually one and a half to two hours long and then I'll just sit in my chair and listen to listen to Patrick talk and I'll just do little crunches like this or I'll do bicycles just like that and I'm just listening to an interview and I can put my hands on my head I can do this and this I can twist my torso it's all good you know it's not like a big deal and you start listening to those interviews you start speeding up your revolution you start getting you broadening your horizons you know like I was just in the raw vegan paradigm for about four or five years and then I started listening to one radio network and I was hearing people from like the primal scene and the western price scene and maybe like the fruitarian scene and there's just like so many little little clicks and groups and like macrobiotics and we can kind of forget that there's so many other people out there so right now I'm really kind of doing the western price paleo stuff and it's really working for me it's definitely a higher fat diet for me I know last week I had the fruitarians from 30 bananas a day Harley and Freely and they are huge fans of fruit and low fat on the other hand for me I've really found a lot of success with high fat so and not and they're not even worrying about protein so much but more about the fat and I just feel more satisfied and I don't have to eat 30 damn bananas a day you know what I mean and but that's the whole thing about the show is I like to bring a lot of cool people on and they can share their stories share their results they're both in good shape obviously and then we go from there you know people can decide for themselves I'm really not trying to tell you what to do I just want to give you a bunch of good ideas and then you can just pick and choose like a buffet the old you know like what's that one old no old town buffet or something remember back in the day like old town buffet and you can just kind of see what you like it's like a cafeteria you know it's like okay I want to I like this I like the greens here but I don't like so many nuts and or like I'm gonna I want to work out like this I want to do some cardio but I don't want to do weight-bearing exercises or I don't want to do or I want to do body weight exercises and not maybe dumbbells and that's just the way it is so I just want to bring a lot of people in and then you can pick and choose what you like easy enough so let's do a couple exercises here I'm going to show you a few things that I've been doing lately and this is a nice one that you can do in a very tight area and again put on the computer listen to some interviews do some podcasts and you're going to be all set it's going to be really really fun so this is looking good okay great what I like to do I'll do a little side view like this I can kind of I'm seeing in the mirror here it's a push-up sit-up combo so you're going to be working your abs and then sit-ups and you're going to be working your chest as well and also with push-ups you're going to be working your triceps so what I like to do and I'm going to shorten this a little bit because I want to you know usually I would go till exhaustion until muscle failure but I just want to show you a quick little thing I do usually 10 push-ups like this and you can start just kind of like straight below your shoulders no big deal I'll do 10 or maybe I'll do 20 I think at home it would almost be better to do 20 and just really kind of going slow and focusing on every single muscle and then when you can't do anymore that's the key don't even worry about a number just do it until you can't do anymore flip over flip over and then do some crunches so I like to put my knees up and I'll do my crunches boom and I'll maybe hold up for five seconds and I'll do that until it's really hurting you know it's just like okay it's about time to flip over again not feeling so hot anymore feeling kind of sore I'll flip over and it's nice like in a very small area right I'll flip over and I'm going to do diamond cutter push-ups this time and this is when you make you know this kind of shape it's some people would think it's like the Jay-Z Illuminati thing but that's definitely not my my scene so almost think of it as an upside down heart and then I just like to go and this is really working my my lower chest because a lot of guys they'll have good upper chest but you want to work your lower chest and then really just squeeze it out just squeeze it out and go nice and slow and then when you almost can't do anymore just hover just really hover and keep it going just you know breathe breathe and then flip again and then you just keep doing this pattern and then this time I'm going to do a leg raise so I'm going to work my lower abs boom boom really nice you know this is a small area it's efficient while my chest muscles rest I'm working my ab muscles so it's really like a nice quick kind of thing when you're at the gym and you're you're doing your thing and then you just kind of chill for for your minute and you're like okay I'm just kind of waiting waiting to do the the next exercise in the meantime you could be working out you could be stretching you'd be stretching your neck you could be you know rolling your shoulders around doing something so flip over again another one to go super wide you can do that another one where you don't even have to flip between abs and chest is I'll do this I'll do these push-ups and then I'll go like this and make kind of a tripod and just hover and then I'll just kind of bring my butt up in the air and just really keep my core flexed and you can go on your side boom see if you can kind of see how that's working so it's really I can do my obliques I can do whatever and I really don't even have to flip and then as soon as I'm getting really sore I just go right back into push-ups boom just knock out a couple I can't really do can't really do one hand it's too much right now you can spread your legs whatever you need to do you can put your feet up in the air another thing I like to do is put one foot in the air like this and even bring bring that foot up to your chest and then that way well I mean bring your knee to your chest boom so you're doing abs and chest at the same time so that's really the key it's like making it fast making it consistent because again like I really you know that's a good method I'm doing and that's a good thing to know but overall it's the people that have the results are the ones that just go a lot and the ones that are consistent really consistency gets the goods it's all about sticking to the curriculum and not getting distracted and bogged down and you know you go to the gym January January 2nd January 3rd the gym is loaded with people that are doing their New Year's resolutions and they're you know kicking butt or whatever and and then by about February March you just don't see anyone there anymore because they get tired of it because in their mind exercise is work exercise is homework but if they were to listen to some good music you know whatever have a maybe have a little coffee beforehand just something to kind of pep them up listen to you know whatever you know I mentioned it before listen to some interviews that way maybe it would be a little more enjoyable and they would you'd see them in June you would see them in August and you'd see them right before Christmas holiday so don't really worry about techniques so much worry more about how to make it fun so I'm gonna really get back into get back into all that stuff I'm not get back into it I'm gonna talk about it at the event for Organic Avenue and I believe five days and I'm gonna be doing a lot more doing some shoulder stuff as well like here's another one I'm sitting on a chair right now I'm getting all sweaty I can just sit here and go like this watching TV watching the news getting brainwashed you know all that good stuff getting depressed that acidic cnn.com whatever and I can do some shoulder stuff like this even just stretching you know flexibility is a huge part of the game and it's going to make your muscles build I think because and you're getting you're getting them stretched out and they're healing and and you can just sit and watch some TV it's really multitasking is a lot easier than you think and if you have a rebounder per se if you have a rebounder you can just stand in front of it and just bounce and watch TV put on some Netflix I'm a big fan of Netflix I like Hulu.com I watch a lot of YouTube there are some great Terrence McKenna videos on YouTube recently Google him Terrence McKenna he's an ethnobotanist and he actually passed away about 10 years ago it's T-E-R-E-N-C-E there might be two Rs in there McKenna M-C-K-E-N-N-A Terrence McKenna a genius he wrote the book foods of the gods or food of the gods maybe foods of the gods really awesome stuff so like I'll just put on some of those some of his talks and just do some you know boom boom work out my abs like this you know I'll just kind of stand here and just do stuff like this and how hard is that you know boom boom boom boom boom easy easy easy and that way I'm able to stay consistent and I'm getting my workouts in another thing too get this I don't like to structure my exercise hour like I'm okay I'm gonna exercise blah blah blah I like to maybe if I've got 10 minutes I'll just do what I just showed you on the floor there and just crank out the the chest and the stomach and then maybe like later on today I might have like a spare 15 and then I'll I'll do my my bicep curls or I'll do some pull-ups you know pull-ups are a great one who do you know that does pull-ups probably nobody people really don't do them on a regular basis but just imagine if you did you'd get that those nice muscles down in your back you know like really good like good arms I mean pull-ups will do everything and when you do a pull-up you can bring your knees up and just hold it I'm really all about the isometrics just holding them holding the position and really making the muscle struggle because that's where you're going to see the challenges and then that's where you're going to see the growth it's just like life if there's no challenge there's no growth and I think that's why so many kids these days here's my little side tangent that's why so many kids these days are marshmallows because both figuratively and literally because there's never been any challenges in their lives parents want to make life easy they want to make life you know as just like whatever you know like easy for their kids very very you know I'm not saying nepotism but in that in that kind of realm like giving them things and you know paying for college and whatever you know paying for the car paying for the insurance and then these kids have to enter the real world at age 22 23 maybe later if they go for an MBA or a doctorate or something and they're total marshmallows with no with no work ethic you don't think about that so really you have to challenge yourself and there has to be growth and if not you know look what look what we're going we I mean as a as a country we have to compete with China India you know what I mean like these things are really really coming to a forefront now so we really have to enable ourselves and give ourselves some challenges so we can grow and be stronger that's really how it is I think that's that's just about it we're probably going to wrap this up fairly soon again I just want to mention the event Organic Avenue and that's going to be August 11th 2011 at 6 o'clock I believe it's 6 o'clock I don't think it's 6 30 it's 6 to 8 30 and then I'm just going to be really just the whole thing I'm going to be talking about permaculture building food forests yeah the forest gardens why urban permaculture going to be talking about the exercises of course going to be talking about green lifestyle strategies such as harvesting the water you know shower filters recycling home composting vermicomposting all these sorts of ideas that we can incorporate into our lives both to save us money do our part to not be a part of the problem that's a big part I'm not going to say that you recycling in your house is going to save the earth but it's going to feel good not to be a part of that problem that's for sure and then you're going to be doing better stuff for your health the less packaging you have the less processed food you're eating it all really kind of serves itself it's really an amazing thing and then I'm going to be doing some guided meditations so let's just finish it out with a guided meditation uh they're going to be doing like a little qigong stuff too and that's going to be really cool but uh let's just if you can if you want to you know I'm sitting here doing this if you feel like it I think you'll get a lot from it I just like to sit for maybe two minutes or three minutes and just take a few deep breaths and just kind of be present in your body like feel your hands you know your hands can be on your knees really concentrate on your breath and just imagine living on a paradise planet imagine living in a forest garden and your kids or your or your nephews your grandchildren your nieces and your cousins every little kid just running around picking berries and you know like harvesting honey and and you know expand that vision to like neighborhoods just covered in fruit and nut trees and imagine just walking down the sidewalk and you see like grape arbors everywhere and and raspberries and and just like kiwi vines and and walnut trees over everything and then expand that even further where you're looking at the full city so you go from like the backyard to the neighborhood to the city you know green all you see is green when you fly over the little house is nestled beneath but you can't even see him because of the canopy and further out you're at the country level just covered just covered in green again because we realize that growing GMOs and growing monocrops is insane and it's a waste of money it makes us sick and it makes us poor so we're transferring over to a perennial polyculture instead of an annual monoculture and because of that we're healing the planet it's expanding to the world we're seeing you we're seeing china covered in food forests india covered in tropical food forests we're seeing new zealand australia all the deserts of australia being brought back to life all the deserts of the western u.s brought back to life there's so much potential i want to i want you to check out a video on youtube called greening the desert and this was a permaculture project by jeff lotten and i believe they did it i wasn't sure if it was syria or if it was in palestine i'm not sure but check out greening the desert i'm pretty sure it's syria greening the desert and there's a part one and a part two see what they did they're getting figs pomegranate citrus guavas a lot of good stuff out of this area that was a salt flat you know they thought that stuff would never grow there they were lowering the water table getting the salt out really really amazing stuff so check it out and um yeah just envision yourself on a paradise planet and work towards that treat each other like sacred siblings know that you're uh an enlightened soul on this planet and act like it for god's sake so thank you so much this is anthony anderson from the anthony anderson show only one tv dot com and thanks so much guys for tuning in i hope you got a lot from the show and we'll see you really soon next week take it easy peace


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So, in our last talk, we just heard all about the problems of working with, working with licenses and code and what this talk is going to start to do is start to paint the picture of how we can finally get to the stage where we can make the compliance information automated and make it a lot easier and a lot less manual going forward. So our challenge is how to automate this information. We've got two different points, right? We've got, in FOSS projects, are actually a lot of commercial projects, products today. And it's a commercial entities that generally care about making sure that there's accurate summaries of licensing. The people who are developing the software want to make sure that they, you know, what their intentions are, they'll put in. But how it gets put in, what they care, you know, what it's actually there in the is right at the moment at the time it was put in, but doesn't always follow over time and doesn't accurately, necessarily over time. We've been finding that someone will contribute some files to a project under one license and then the project, those files will move to another project. So, you know, you, someone may say, okay, see, see license.txt file at the top for understanding the licenses. Well, they've moved it into another file that doesn't have a license.txt file, as a copying file. So you have all these really interesting games to play, to try to really understand what the licenses are. And so what we need to know is, you know, is the source we're working with, what, how good is the licensing in it, is there a quality of it? And we need tools, specifically open source tools to support the tracking of this code. Companies can, you know, pay money to BlackDuck or Palameda or so forth into people who have businesses for this stuff. But for developers' perspective, working with this with open source seems to be the right way. So, right now, our commercial tools are focused on product development and auditing code bases. And they've got limited support for helping developers track the license changes as they develop a code. Our open source tools also are mostly focused on auditing existing code bases manually and summarizing the information of the tools that are out there, physiology has been around the longest and is what we're basing some of this work on. So we need to give away to get the open source projects to have machine detectable, accurate licensing information and be able to keep it up to date as the software changes. That's sort of the goal. And so we're sort of making some progress now. With any hard problem, you have to start breaking it down, okay? And the steps are, we need to be able to accurately identify the license associated with the file. Some developers like to just say it's just at the project level. That's been showing more and more to be a luxury we no longer have. Files move between projects and tracking things down over time becomes a very, very manually intensive operation if you're trying to discover the base root cause of things. We need to have something at the command line tool to summarize the licensing in a source file. Okay?  You need to be able to accurately summarize the license associated with every project at the time the project's built. Depending if there's multiple options and conditions, there may be implications of that. You've got to be able to share the summary results of the license information with the project with others. And you have to have some code command line tool that can summarize the file level licensing information for projects you know is a single license. Are there multiple licenses? What is the story here? So, and then for this to really be effective over time, it's got to be into CI loops. You've got to have it in build environments so that you can keep up as it goes along. So at the very start of SPDX was to address parts of this. And at the time, it was focused mostly on getting a standard together so that we could accurately identify the licenses associated with the file. While the SPDX license list has got 300 licenses with standard identifiers, and you can put a one line comment into each file and identify it without too much pain from a developer perspective. Command line tool is up a question. We need to be able to accurately summarize the licenses associated with a project every time the project is built. Well, if you can generate an SPDX 2.1 document for each build of a project, that has a signing of the files, a signing of the project itself. And then you have all the information there so you know things have changed from revision to revision. So being able to generate the SPDX document can address that. Being able to share the results with different consumers. Most of the developers, I know, would prefer to see things in a tag value format, or more the Linux side, anyhow. Most of the Java guys prefer the RDFA. And most of the lawyers refer to a spreadsheet. With the SPDX, we've been very careful to preserve so you can translate back and forth between all formats and look at the information. So you sort of go, well, SPDX file. Well, actually, it's an RDFA, is it a tag, or is it a spreadsheet? And if it's not the one you want, there's tools out there to convert it. And then having this command line tool is also an open question. So obviously, we want open source tools, and all open source builds upon prior open source. So we're starting here with the place of the theology, which I will stress is in testing mode right now. We're trying to get ready for a release. And if anyone wants to go and help test it, that'll be very welcome. The source is up there. And it handles, is everyone familiar with physiology in this room? Who's not? OK. Then, physiology is a scanning tool that will basically take a file, or point it at a file, or like a project, and it will scan through with your choice of one or multiple scanners and look for specific expressions that match licenses that are common for finding licenses. And then that's, so it's got NOMOS and MONC and NINCA, which are three scanners that you can choose from based on where you're, what you're sort of looking for, how strict and things like that. Each of them has different heuristics. So you've got different ones to play with, depending on what you're looking for, and how strict you want to be. And then it basically gives you an interface if you're working with it interactively, and lets you recognize things and assign things and effectively go through a clearing process to say, OK, I've gone through all these codes. I've recognized everything. It makes it easier for you to sort of manually look at a project and then generate out the information so you've got confidence you can ship it with licenses are. With the release of the 3-1, well, in the 3-1 version, it's now able to generate tag value. And so you can get a file license list. And but however, it does need to have some better heuristics for the command line side. The CP2 FOS needs to be able to automate the decisions that are going on. The interactive works well, but this is where we're serving an area to focus on for us. There's also the SBX tools, and that lets you convert between formats. They're out there today. And mostly, it's just to basically validate that you actually have a valid SBDX file. And one of the things that's looking like it's needed is we probably need to get something that takes an SBDX file and just summarizes the licensing information. There are other research projects out there that are saying, is this licensing consistent? Does this work well? But so there's always things you can add. And then the other open source tool we're looking at for this is the ELBA system, which basically takes and builds a Linux root file system based on Debian packages. And it needs to be able to have an accurate summary and status statistics of license each time it does a build root file system. So this is part of trying to pull all these pieces together that are out there and see if we can get something useful. And with that, I'm going to turn it over to my colleague. So let me give you a very quick information about ELBA itself. It's not a distribution. It's not a tool to build a distribution. There are a lot of tools out there to build distributions, Yocto, PTX Desk, whatever you name it. So the problem for a lot of companies, especially smaller companies, is once you build your stuff with Yocto, you become a distributor. That means you are responsible for tracking for bug fixes, for security bugs, and all this kind of stuff. So we took another approach and said, we want to have a tool where we can leverage a well-maintained and existing and well-maintained distribution. And that was ELBA does. It builds Debian-based root file systems for embedded system. It generates a Debian-based development system, matching the target for application developers. It's highly customizable. And it's fully reproducible. There is the link to the project homepage. It's open source. It's written in Python. Here's the quick overview. You have an XML description of the project. That means that's all the packages and the rules. You can downsize after packaging when it generates their final disk image. You get the packages from either the Debian repositories or your private repositories. You can integrate your applications in a separate repository. It generates the application development kit and images at the rebuild CD, the source code CD, and the licenses file. So here is a slightly better overview. You have your customized Debian package pool. That's basically what the application developers create. That's the official Debian pools or a mirror. And then everything is converted into the target system, the developer system, and the various surrounding information. So in the license reports, Elbi generates a license report today by parsing the Debian package information. That's not really accurate. And it doesn't give us a lot of statistical information about the accuracy of what we are doing. So there's no SPDX support. There is an SPDX branch which generates the existing information in the SPDX format. But that doesn't help for the other things like statistics. So we looked into integrating SPDX generation into the build process, but generating the SPDX information by scanning the source files. Every time you build a root file system, it's pretty much, it's too time consuming. It's really overkill. And so we thought about, because the Debian source code doesn't change every day, we thought about downloading regenerated SPDX files to be the solution. So we wrote an SPDX generator. It looks for the nightly Debian update, feeds the updates into Phosology, generates the SPDX file, generates statistics, and uploads the SPDX and the statistics to a public server. So Phosology is not really optimized for automated workloads. We had to write quite some wrappery. It's pretty ugly. We need better horistics for automatic conclusions, which are not there yet. The generator is working progress, and we really have to clean it up before we show it to the world. It's horrible. The generator service, though, we are going to provide that continuously. So if you create a root file system, you get the binary CD-ROM ISO, the source CD-ROM ISO, your image, and now you get, as a separate information, the SPDX. It's 7-SIP because there are people working on Windows, and they hate torbols. 7-SIP just works both on Linux and Windows, so we're happy to do that. So OK, the LB integration for the SPDX torbol generation is available in the LB Q3 repository. There's an LB SPDX branch now. And the repository of the SPDX repository is available at our home page. It looks like a Debian pool. It has the same directory structure. So it's analogous where you find the source files in the same directory name. A path name is the SPDX and the statistical information. So no, there was something else I wanted to show. We generate statistics that's license statistics. That's Linux kernel 3.1639. So I ran a lot of recent kernel. There are numbers of a very similar.  OK, it should be 40. OK, that's silly. But that was me reformatting the spreadsheet. So we have 1,400 references to GPLv2. We have 10,000 references to GPLv2 plus. So that's 40.8% and 90.6%. So the files on the web page have actually the real numbers. So the other, where is the other file? There is the SPDX file, which is generated. It contains all the file names. So that's what basically comes out of Phosology. And then it generates another statistical information. We just use the MIME types, which are available in Phosology, which are not really nice to read. But it's pretty clear. It's text xc, so the c files, cata files, make files, assemble files, and whatever. We have actually c++ files in the kernel. So you see the total number of files. That's the total files in that kernel repository. That's the files which have actually license references in them. So we have, OK, that's 63%. We have total license references, 34,000. That means we have more references than files with references. That's because we have a lot of files which are dual license. MIT and GPL or a BSD and GPL and whatever. But now here we come to the c files we see. We have 43,000, 34,000 c files and 26,000 half license reference in it, which is machine identifiable. So that's roughly 75%. I think the current kernel code has close to 80. So we are adding more files which have license references, but nobody cleans up the old ones which do not have. So we are trying to get that sorted. So, OK, that's it. Questions, no questions? Not a question, hopefully a useful observation. You asked about tools that will scan a source tree and tell you what licenses are in it. I needed to do this for Mozilla. I confess I tried using Phosology and couldn't understand it. So I didn't use Phosology. I can't understand that. Yes. I hope maybe there are some people here who can understand that I didn't understand Phosology. But so what I did was I wrote something called SLIC, which stands for Speedy License Checker, which looks through a tree of files and tells you the SPDX identifiers for every file in there, using various regx magic. And it's on github and github.com slash jerv slash slick. Yeah, but the problem is if you have SPDX license identifiers, it's easy. No, no, no. It doesn't just extract them from the files. It reads the files and works out the identifiers from the license text. So it has a big database of different sorts of license text. That's basically what Phosology does as well. For those who can't use Phosology, I'm just saying there is another alternative outlet. Right.  And we need probably one tool set which works. Can I do first? No. So people are consistently bad at kind of putting licenses at their GitHub repositories and things like that. So do you see a chance that we move to a world where you just have your license specified in the file and then some automated tool will in the end kind of generate a project license, which is then usually not just one license but a combination of more automatically? Yeah, I mean that's the goal. So if you look at the statistics, and that's one of the reasons why we wanted to generate the statistics is basically you can feed statistics into, you take the package statistics and figure out how bad a project actually is. And then you can create sheet lists, public sheet lists, which works very well.  So that's one of the things. But today, people do not have metrics. They even do not know how bad their code base is in terms of licensing because nobody tells them. And they have no tools to look at. And they don't care. But when distros start to care about that and say, OK, here is the information. We are not longer accepting projects with non-specified licensing issues and whatever. So please get your act together and clean it up. So that might help. But we need the tools. So people packaging packages or whatever can actually get numbers out of it and get a reasonable information how bad it is. People want to see. One of the things you should do is, on the link we're giving, we've literally got the entire Debian distribution with a first pass of what the SPDX tools are generating. And so if you've got specific packages you're interested or you care about, go look at it. Yep. Said it wasn't a question over there. Yeah. I was wondering whether these tools could work with pre-compiled or binaries. Can they scan or do they have functionality like this can for Solergy see that for what you were using FFM bag, but you have already compiled? No, not at the moment. So that's a different class of analysis. We are looking at really source code. That's what we're looking for. There are scanners for binary matches out there, but that's a totally different playground. There's a question behind here. Thanks. A question as a lawyer, what I'm interested in as far as I get you a tool, it's just as good as the people who are maintaining the directories in terms of the license. For example, if I just say I got a GPLV3 third party component here, but I missed to add the copyright information, the SBDX wouldn't make any binary search and tell me who the copyright owner is, all right? In the SBDX file, the copyright owner information can be recorded based on what it finds in the file at the source level. And that's about it. Thanks. I mean, there are a lot of gaps in the tools, but we have to really use them and then fix them. Said more questions? OK. No, there's one. Last minute. So you said that you were looking for a command line tool that did something, but then there are a lot of command line tools that do different things. So what exactly is the tool that is missing? What should this tool do that all the existing tools don't do? So first, if we were having a proper command line driven interface for continuous integration checking, none of the tools I'm aware of actually does that. There are, there have been approaches for a doctor to do that, but the doc, what is this? Deusox V2 tried to do that. Yeah, they tried to do that, but it's not really useful and it's unmaintained as far as I know. Phosology is really GUI interactive driven. It's developed for manual license clearing, and we can reuse parts of it. So it's, it's, and then, of course, there are other things missing like specific heuristics to conclude license information. And then, so there are a lot of bits and pieces out there. We have to connect them together and have, feed them into a framework which actually is usable for all kind of workloads so that we don't have 55 different scanners out there, which all give you 100 different results. That's the state of the union at the moment. If you try 10 scanners, you really get 12 results. Well, with that, we're out of time. Thank you very much, Kate and Thomas.