egitimate I guess you know like and yeah always market as an alternate story And you know, I've heard this Doubled up by like lots of comic fans as well, but like it seems like the important elements of spider-man you've got to keep With great power comes great responsibility Man now i'm having another because somebody's mentioned this and I totally forgot john stewart wasn't from the comics originally Um, he was an animated tv show, right? So like he was an animated he was in the animated shows and then because he was popular he got translated over to the comics Interesting I don't even think that the the comic purists Agree with each other necessarily a lot of the time when they get into the actual details Um, right you'll find like like all of them disagree on whether or not tazum peter parker was good or bad as an adaptation Uh, you get lots of different results. I guess is what i'm saying And then of course pretty much all of them think ramy's one was was top notch Um And then the the mcu one you get all kinds of answers for that as well It's like if this is so objectively clear it seems weird that so many people are unsure about it Then again, I guess you can talk with a flat-earth. So I don't know Holly started off in an animated show and then because she's so popular she became a comic book character. Yeah I guess I maybe I I guess I can understand Yeah, I guess I can somewhat understand right um like if somebody Looks at changes that happen in the film and they recognize But but I feel like this is almost a tacit acknowledgement that they know that they're wrong That they recognize that if the film does it a certain way that that change might bleed into the comics because it does happen Where like the comics will start to yeah warp to alter to Be more like the films but all that demonstrates to me is that there is a recognition that the films are going to influence The comics because the films are seen by more people than the comics are read by Unlike this I feel like there's just way too much identity tied to these things being facts Thus us here on the old fappins.  Uh, we're just looking to Yeah, we're I think we've we've seemed to be given this a lot more thought than other people have they just sort of go with This ambiguous sort of gut feeling that they have and they don't really explore that or push the boundaries of it Or examine it closely Okay, part of my video on ds2 was figuring out what the definitive edition of the game was to review So I don't know if I'm supposed to ds2 or scarl the first sin Now if someone said well, it's the first one is the definitive one. I'd be like Well, is that how that works? Isn't it games oftentimes the definitive version might be the latest one Absolutely and then I was like so maybe it's that and then I think I checked the description on steam and the the devs had chosen to to uh Describe scarl the first sin as the definitive edition. I was like well So I feel like the author's describing which version is definitive kind of trumps any other metric i'm going for If but like but I don't I don't know I feel like definitive could mean a couple things And so when people say the definitive spider-man, I'm just like, I don't know what you mean by that really I Same for batman because I guess if If the maker From subsets, yeah, this is the definitive one But people all have just been playing the original one It's like, maybe I want to review the the the one everyone is playing because that's probably the most interesting one to people right Oh, well, yeah I haven't said then then again death of the author. It's like that's not I don't know that I'm appealing to like an in-universe judgment of any the content I'm talking about like a meta one like categorically as a definitive and could definitive mean Whichever one the creator has said is the final version slash most completed version Which you would rely on them for that, right? What do you think rags? When I got the definitive edition Was it like are we talking about how would you define what makes something the definitive edition? well When looking at it from a like a video game perspective, right When I got the definitive edition for battlefield 5 It was the the the current stage of the game I guess you could say all of the dlcs and add-ons. This is post all of the balance changes and adjustments. It is Pretty much the ideal version of that game It is the truest Probably that the truest form of that game that the developers were able to make a reality Their best I guess you could say When it comes to movies I guess you could say that when it came to maybe justice league when it came to zack snider His version was the truest version of that to what he wanted. That was the the most ideal Manifestation of his I guess you could say his vision um so Maybe that should be what the the definitive edition that it Defines in a way speaking What the creator or creators wanted to happen the most with their project? um, I feel like that's close to how I was saying it for yeah Like I just I went with the authors if you will of gs2's their opinion on what the definitive one is rather than what A metric I could come up with I guess that is a metric I'm coming up with I think I'll I think tentatively of course I'm gonna probably go with that that seems to be a decent way of looking at it That's certainly charitable to the material that's being looked at and so how would that translate then over to a character? Now that is don't Yeah, that I uh that I don't know Um, I do know what you missed. I mean, I don't know uh about Like the character aspect of it to catch you up for me We basically just went over what makes a game definitive and the different ways we figure it out And then it's like does that reflect well or not usefully at all when thinking what makes a character definitive Someone asked a good question to if I could just put this in because this is similar What about fallout? Which fallout is the definitive fallout game new vegas one or two three four 76 and that's very similar I was about to bring up uh Assassin's creed, but I think fallout's even better example because you you went straight from like an asymmetrical not asymmetric isometric, uh Like uh, and what was what's the the system that that uses it? It uses like one of those role playing systems with chances and things like that and then you change that to fallout three and four which are like very different Because people because people's opinions on that are going to be influenced by which ones they played first That's definitely true Like what people Individually will be determined by which one they played first and you start to notice the similarities then with the character problem we're having Where people got exposed to wally west through comics or cartoons when they were a kid and then barry allen comes back and it's like well Wait a minute No, it's wally west. That was the one I always saw when I was growing up or like which you know Which robin is the definitive robin a lot of people probably say want to bring back a Dracula example. It's almost like lee Dracula. That's that's the one someone's like no, go see Dracula. That's the one you know like No But by the way definitive james bond. I feel like a lot of people will be like Sean Connery, right? It's like well some people might feel a little different people Pierce Brosnan It's like I don't know that first is really I feel like the flash is just the killer argument for first is just not always the way that works a lot of the time It is Especially with how old these things are and how In now people just don't know about the first when when people see batman machine gunning down communists They I mean it's awesome as that is a lot of people just don't know that even exists And if they do they think oh, oh, oh, that's a different version of batman. That definitely isn't the real one And that's the keyword instead of saying it's an older version and that's it Uh, it's it's it's not the right one. It's not the correct one. It's not the legitimate. I think someone's This is you'll read this super chat eventually, but they brought up how like Guardians a lot of people guardians is what james gun. Yeah, that's guardians I think that you will find that like 95 percent of people that's what they think guardians of the galaxy is You'll find very few people who are going to be referencing like the 80s comic book Um, and it's so much so that like a lot of other guardians stuff going forward It's just going to take inspiration from his because it was so significant in terms of how popular it was And so it's like man the movie kind of like defined what guardians is and i'm sure that like the film Because I don't know that much about the comics for guardians Like i'm sure a lot of it was inspired directly from the comic books But like god damn like there is a style there that has now become what people associate with guardians Hypothetically because we're trying to figure out how this is working exactly It's like for anybody who feels that we're 100 million percent wrong here. Um If everyone's memory of spider-man got wiped except for mcu spider-man tomorrow Does that make mcu spider-man definitively spider-man? Is that how that works? And so therefore if we then made the regmi trilogy that would be like that to clarify All of the content still exists. It's just not been read by anybody like the comics for spider-man at that point They're out there. You can go find them and buy them, but no one cares about them So what happens then? And if your system breaks down, maybe you need a new system just think about it Yep Because um, this is the thing if a new buffy came out everyone loved it and I thought it was shit And they were like that's the definitive buffy now. I'd be like whatever I Just don't put much stock in it. However If I'm like this character is really well written and someone goes. Yeah, well, it's not the definitive spider-man. It's like Okay, yeah, it doesn't it's not particularly valuable as an observation. It's like we're still good. So what difference does it make?  You're like, oh Or like that it's illegitimate. Yeah Um yeah What is the definitive mario game? hmm Because god damn I feel like a knee jerk reaction for a lot of people would be n64 and it's like, no, no I feel like a knee jerk response for a lot of people would be super mario brothers depends on all these people Brothers three or super mario world um, some might say Uh, that it's like mario cuts is more definitive for like mario than uh, oh can I just want to answer this? Someone said so more is definitive addition than a form of mass bias I don't think it's we need to consider it bias if we acknowledge that that is the definition we're running with Like yeah, it's okay I've I'm more than happy if we want to say the definitive character is simply the one that most people See them to be or know them to be I'm like, okay, that's fine. As long as you don't make any other prescriptions afterward That's fine. I think and if someone was like and with that metric We know for a fact that uh, the stanley steve ditko spider-man from six one six is definitive I'd be like, I don't know that that's true by that metric, but I don't care to argue that much Yeah, because I feel like and therefore that's why mc spider-man's bad.  Oh, you got him. No, you didn't get them all. Oh, you did I did. Yeah. I enjoy that minigame. I wish it were harder.  Um I don't even know where we would begin. Um, I feel like the first one might be the Easiest way to go with this but what about like the one that made it the most popular or the one that sold the most or The one that everyone thinks about Mm-hmm. I saw that meme earlier today I was filling up my car the other day and I got a whiff of the gas and I was like There's something about this smell that I just like There is something about the smell of petrol. I it doesn't actually surprise me that that is like an addiction for people It represents power I mean, it's just got it's got this it smells like It smells like work You know like it smells like, um Because I've been around like grease and turpentine I've been around motor parts and engines and tractors and stuff like that and there's just this pleasant my mind goes to these industrious memories When I when I see you know a greasy You know a bit of machinery and I and I kind of smell that lubricant in the air or the or the you know the gasoline There's something about it that just it gives me really good imagery not in like I'm getting highway But in terms of just good memories I I like that. I would say that for me. It's not poetic.  I'm gonna say an aroma It just it smells great when you when you get the sound And you look at it and you smell it. It there's something great about it that are real Maybe this is that at current culture that they're trying to demonize now But I'd be already addicted. I don't know could be like sorry wait is that you I guess you're not happy about that right that people are trying to Get people off car culture by the sound of it Yeah, it's that thing we're doing like cars like it's toxic masculinity in cars and motor Toxic masculinity I thought that the reason why people wanted to disincentivize cars is because they want to push towards like bikes and walking and stuff I think some maybe you you really get the push from I think the idea that I think it's more of a this is a thing that men do, you know, men are into their Really? I think I think women can drive cars. That's what I think Absolutely, but generally car culture is a mostly masculine thing Oh, sure. Sure. I just didn't realize people demonized it because men enjoy it. I thought it was more of like a Oh, anything men enjoy It comes for everything and I think there's a lot of independence to it That oh, yeah, a lot of people don't like the idea that like for me the idea that you can just get in a car whenever you want and just go independent of Like anyone else like a lot of people might you know, they they look down on that sort of thing. They want It's a shame, but I mean American needs better public transport infrastructure, though Like I feel like that's uh, that's undeniable based on everything I've heard about the way that buses and shit run in most American cities It sounds like you don't have a car. You just can't get around Around here, there are some buses and stuff that people do use but pretty much everyone here has a car Well, it's the same in Australia, right? Everybody here has a car because it's just a big place Like you can't get most places in public transport. It's pretty bad. Um, it's pretty good Like in basically in Melbourne and that's it like anywhere else It's just really uh, not easy to get around if you don't have a car But it seems to be different, right? Like in europe, there's much better public transport infrastructure Like they're less built for cars america and australia were like built for cars I have a bus stop in front of my door Well, I think it might just be legitimately really right bus stops in front of my house, huh? Yeah, that's that's what I mean. That's like super. I feel like it's um Sure, I do wonder I wonder if it is like as simple as because the united states and australia are much younger countries than european like cities um, that When our cities were developing They could develop with consideration for cars whereas europe was already like pretty Condensed and so like trying to fit cars in was difficult in general But I do think it's partly policy as well, right? Like some european cities will do infrastructure projects that make it harder to move around by car, so then People are it's also quite spread out here. There's a lot of suburbs And there there's a lot of room to move around and stuff So yeah, but I mean like I feel like suburbs are just kind of like lame, right? Like that's that's kind of the thing whereas you see in these european cities They have less of that like you can walk places. You don't need a car. I mean I can walk places But I think it's the thing if you see those maps like the pictures that people share on twitter and it's like Oh a suburb It's like where is the public space that you can walk to oh it doesn't exist Like it's all just houses and maybe like a park every now and then But there's no like public spaces where they've got all of the shops and like all of the Places that you would want to visit where you can interact and just organically meet people you got to drive to like a shopping center Um Maybe it depends on where you live because certainly around here like if you live in a small town where you've got the main street That that's kind of how things are sort of organized here I suppose where you have you just have like Whole blocks that are that are shopping malls and grocery stores and things of that nature It's not just you don't see just you generally don't see just a random one by itself Though that happens of course, but for the most like next to the grocery store There's uh within walk in distance. There's the ups place. There is a the post office place There's a hobby lobby. There's a restaurants. There's a this there's a convenience store, you know, it's it's all It's it makes me wonder maybe it's just because people just don't want to walk Because I could because for me like I understand why you don't get groceries Yeah, I think a lot of people just don't um, yeah, uh because for me I can go to the grocery store And if I don't buy too much I can carry it back But there is an aspect of you know, I'm loading up for x amount of time of food So, you know da da da, but I can walk to Convenience stores I can walk to a lot of places. It's just a matter of do I want to do it or just do I just Want to get in my car get there and then come back I but I guess the idea is is there an element of you can just change that mindset and people through City planning like if you plan the city in a certain way, you will just end up naturally making people Not want to drive they'd rather walk because they're going to get something out of that It's it's not merely just getting to this location like if they go walking they might bump into somebody or If they go walking they might cut through a park. That's really nice, you know stuff like that Because here our park because we have a decent amount of parks here um And I guess it would depend on which city you're in right like or oh, absolutely. It will absolutely But lots of parks.  I mean, I guess it's I guess it's just the thing of like you often because we got plenty of parks here And like playgrounds and stuff that you rarely see people on them. They're just there they exist But people don't use them that much um Because I think it's more complicated than just having them be there It's like giving people a reason to go through them Or making other people go through them more often. I don't know.   So that could mean a lot of different things, but okay. All right. Okay. I'm So I'm not sure exactly what that means I didn't like the sentence already. So thanks I don't even know how you could like Man, that is uh That makes me a little angry. We'll have to see it. We'll have to see it.  I might actually watch Hawkeye now Well, like wait, so it's worse. Is that that's plausible Five out of six are out the next the last episode's out next week I might try and watch that soon and I don't even know that I want to do an e-fab with you guys on it Just so that I've seen it and I can be like It was this anyway moving on What's worse is that I can believe that they would do that. Yeah. Oh totally 100 plausible that yeah, they've done way worse I show to do that in the show about Hawkeye Man, I'm just sitting here thinking like how could they do that? Literally, how though? Yeah, how do you explain that? How could how could you possibly know that? Um, and something I want to highlight as well because it was interesting It was just a sort of closing on the the other discussion we had um A future super chat said on a similar note The more combat movie in the 90s influenced the game series after the first game was out Kano was from brazil in mk1 Then they changed it to australia after the movie came out definitive changes with ages Yeah, because if anyone said kano is not australian definitively, we'd just be like, okay That's Is like that's like one of his made traits there for love So I don't even know why you know, you would just get weird at that point and to me And I feel like we this is efab's position on this Just about what people like the most that becomes definitive traits the character and that is fine I just prefer that we say that that's what it is No main line Yeah, that's for Hawkeye. I don't know. I don't know. I guess we'll find out Uh, I mean I'm off work next week. We can watch it together. Oh, we can suffer together. Okay You make it sound like it's trying to be fun math. Yeah, I can Lie, you're scheduled to mine now so we can actually hang out again The daytime's uh wait nighttime whatever shut up Oh, I came so close These maps are quite big for a game cube game. These are like I love them They're awesome. Yeah, I wish this game was finished To the level they wanted it to be because it probably it probably could have kicked some serious ass if it were complete Yeah, could have uh Odyssey very much does bear a lot of similarities like sunshine when you think about it. It's just but then again That's more the collectathon aspect, but these big open environments where you get to explore around and Just look for things and do stuff play around I think we've said it before but like the water in this game is better than a lot of water just ever It's it's amazing. Yeah for a game cube game.  Well, yeah, some people I mean, that's my favorite Mario game Well, and I was about to say like if someone was like, oh, that's absurd. Mario's came out like brilliant It's like whoa, wait, wait, wait if if it was the best Mario's ever been I can totally see why someone would say it's definitive But also at this point it's worthwhile remembering like Super Mario Galaxy is 14 years old It's uh, it's not a recent game not a young baby game. You know Yeah, I find Mario super interesting because uh, even like the the the musical sort of um Like Mario's musical themes have like changed significantly like at this point Mario is mainly got like jazz pieces But there was a period there where like Mario was super orchestral There was a period there where Mario had a lot of like the the sunshine influence of like very relaxing Sort of like tropical sounding music Um, and then of course the chiptune stuff. It's like, yeah, what like mario even like if mario's musical motifs have changed um You know, it's just interesting to think about Sunshine was 2002. Yeah, this game dude this game is 20 years old next year Man That is just like uh, oh the early 2000s was a while ago I think that's one start to scammery Rags have you heard of project zomboid? It's a cool zombie game with the sort of 2d art style kind of like fallout 1 and 2 great gameplay And you can customize it to be like twd or 28 days big recommend. I think what they mean is like Patrick within the last Probably two weeks That game has been popping up in conversation and recommendation More than normal I've heard well, sorry. I've heard very good things about it And I am definitely I have a friend who's playing it right now recording this chord. I am quite interested In that game. Um, it seems like it could be really interesting. I think it's on my list I think the reason why it's been popping up more lately is because they released their multiplayer They implemented. Yeah, that's what I heard. Yeah, so I think that's why it's popped up again I liked this. I thought this comment.  I don't I don't really care for American we don't do peanut butter and jelly. Yeah, I'm not too keen on them I don't really I haven't had one and I can't even remember the last I like peanut butter I like jelly together. I just uh, like I'm I'm snacking on peanuts now Is that that's one of my go-to snack foods? Um, but together I don't really like them too much um Grape I would I think goes better But I'm I'm not really the one to ask too much about that one I I typically just not do I'm not a pbj guy. I think someone asked me this before And then I said it's grape Jam is like pretty uncommon here. Like I've legitimately checked since I've been asked this because I wanted to try it out But I like in the normal shops. I couldn't find any grape Jam or momolade or whatever Like, huh weird. It's very common here. I'm like momolade Nice one.  I think I know what they're trying to say and uh, it was very good I assume it was good. I forget which day it falls long because we don't do it here I'm pretty sure it was a Thursday It's a Thursday. It's a last Thursday of uh One more year Um, well rags, how was Thanksgiving? My uh, my my Thanksgiving went well Yeah, we had the whole family there and ate a bunch of stuff and had a good time Yay Through heat. There you go. There's your thanks Thanksgiving stories in full. I know it took a while, but we did it You could see me on Thanksgiving because you know days. I was just streaming Uh, I bet none of you know When the war of 1812 was Oh, was it 1917? For a question It was 1218 Dang oldy oldy, but a goody That's quite a typo Uh, we used to talk Star Wars, which was the style at the time Oh, that's great Don't worry. Bookaboo fat is right on the cost of bringing out The best part about that joke was how Abe leaned into the camera Just like a kind of blank expression Which was the style of time Tie an onion to my belt Um, all right, where are we loop boop? Pringy, been meaning to ask you this a while. Have you ever really been far enough even as decided to use even go want to do? Look more like also high rags Oh, hello. So is the point of that that's gibberish or Oh, you read it again if you want me to I don't I don't understand it And I don't think that reading it again will help I think what's pretty straightforward. That's not a very good attitude to have Rags if you want to answer instead Seems like free is not allowing that one Oh, you can read it. You can answer it if you want. I just don't understand the question Absolutely. Just so just for the sake of clarity. So I know what they're asking you say it one more time Yeah, so I'll change to like it's addressing, you know, so rags, uh, been meaning to ask you this a little while Have ever really been far enough even as decided to use even go want to do look more like also high rags Yeah, I think so. I think that's fair to ask. Um, it happens every once in a while But I wouldn't say it's too It's enough to make you when it does happen, right when you do You know when you are in a situation like that I can understand why Pringy thought it was a bit too personal to answer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah It's some people don't like to talk about it. I think it's fine. I don't think it's a big issue for me personally I feel That some clearly some people won't have the same kind of reaction that I do But it is a sort of situation that what it does arise you go It is a reality for for everyone really pretty much. Yeah, but How much it happens When it happens and probably what's most important is Who you're with Because that's going to change a lot about it. That's that's probably When people it's a scenario that when people bring up, it's not about the thing itself It's who you're with and what you do as a result of the thing that they're really trying to get into I think I think they got their money's worth with that one And I think so, uh, what Pringy you don't want to do your part Like what I don't know what that regards because it came in ages ago Me Welcome to e-fap super chat catch up where your question becomes impossible to interpret you to the passage of time Uh, the great wall is in the matt daemon movie not war you said Did you say great wall and I just assumed you weren't talking about matt daemon? I don't want to I don't want to live in the great wall I haven't seen it so I can't Address that as just medieval times but with crazy arse monsters like no thanks That was a fun movie I haven't seen it, but it did you ever see the great wall? I think you said it would be good for uh an e-fap movies, right? I think so. Yeah, I think it will I think it would be a really good e-fap movies We saw that in the theater my dad and I and we were just like well, that was stupid and we liked it It was just weird and wild Only poland was good during world war one I don't know much about what happened with poland in uh in world war one That's uh, that's an area that i'm not familiar with Just a jump ahead a little wicks follow up with the one we just had but uh Gibberish man.  That was straight from the heart took a while to build up courage After that Thanks rags for answering. Yeah. Oh, you're welcome. Mm-hmm I was happy to help What if the book of boba fat was on the cw java ruled with fear? I will rule when this suit fits a woman Wait what Um I really dislike the tim colored people. Yeah, so do I Yes, so do I There are people I don't like people of color I don't like people of color The big thing I don't like about people of color is I think it's very revealing of like a very again It feels like a super, you know, western centric like there's white people and then there's everyone else. Yes We're normal We're the default for humans, but they they colored the rest of them east asian southeast asians africans Our uh, our people it's like you're all just part of this amorphous group of non whites I hate it.  I think it sounds especially bad when you pair it with there are people and then there are people of color I don't know right. It's like what are you implying I feel like it's just the thing of for some reason you just have the view that the default Race is white because you're I don't know like you just aren't aware that the whole world exists I you know when the kevin costner robin hood, uh prince of thieves Uh, you have um in that game morgan freeman.  Absolutely. Yeah Like what happened to you? Yeah And I saw someone else mentioned it like also implies that white people don't have like a skin color of us It's like, you know, it's not like literally white, you know, like it's it's Yeah, well, yeah It's an interesting color and there's loads of different ones There's different ones because if you're if you're from norway, you probably don't look quite the same as someone from italy Or from or the same for someone from spain compared to someone from russia Yeah It's not an amorphous blob.  We just keep saying that friendly reminder Well, because every time you talk about it, you just remind us like this is stupid, man Can we not do this please? I heard saying slurs is a chat move. So Yeah, that's but as And then getting bad straight I have to say that It's so funny. It's so funny. It's it's like poetry It does indeed rhyme Um Christmas talks about presents for children, but who delivers to grandmas rags, of course his definition of presence is rather strange though Rags like my my rags in a Santa hat delivering Presence to old ladies someone needs to draw that and they're all smiling and happy and it's nice and wholesome. Yeah, nothing wrong Of course, that's what would happen. I just want to make old ladies happy I want to make all kinds of people happy the smile and shiba stick it out of the uh of the the sleigh throwing presents at grandmas I'm over the nursing homes and everything. I'm just checking exactly everybody's smiling. There's no frowning faces Yeah, i'm jams and jellies. They like those Um the books about jesus sewing Um golden girls vhs tapes just all all the stuff that they like photo albums There's nothing in them just photo albums Like photo albums, right? I read about it on wikipedia picture frames The thing that comes in them the placeholder text Yeah, yeah, but oh, I love that 12 inch photo frame picture. That was a great day I wonder when young billy is gonna come and visit hopefully soon Uh, and then she sees the smile and shiba Flyed across the sky and then she smiles because there's little jingly songs and One little atmosphere, you know Uh long fellow mubleton sire the lengthy Yeah, that was my night name. Mm-hmm Uh look up lorena. Oh wait, we're at that one spoiler Um, they find out that spider-man is a quarious Sorry, I had to read it. I was above obligated too. Sorry guys Okay That's okay. You guys are very upset. I can tell I'm gonna I'm an aquarius So it's vitamin apparently Rags may be spider-man If rags were spider-man he would be the definitive spider-man, yeah Yeah, I knew it At least in my heart I'm off see spoodle today. Hope it's Gucci. I hope it's Gucci as well Because you wouldn't know I wouldn't know Um, that was a joke for a record. He is clearly a Libra. Oh, sorry spider-man's a Libra Oh, is it either that or a quarious old the other ones Libra, that's the scales, right? Yes, that's mine. That's where we get the lbs for pounds Is it okay? That's interesting. I always wonder why is lbs when it's pounds that would seem weird to me There's I get some of them confused too because there's three that are very similar in latin. There's there's book Like we get we get book Uh, let's see Friends like because I get them mixed up all the time. So let's go latin book is No, don't Don't what do you how can latin word for book be book?  It's Lieber liber is the latin for book Hound is libra And uh, let me see Uh, just a second and libertas is liberty. So those three well that doesn't surprise me at all Yeah Libertad is liberty in spanish, right? But his silence. I don't know. I don't know about spanish. I don't know about spanish You should know that you american you go learn spanish at school, right?   We're all learning klingon Why didn't we all just agree at the beginning of humanity to just have one language?  That's what the language is called because it's about unity So I was looking up some klingon phrases here So when you when you're toasting when you're drinking, right cheers and good health their phrase is Ilj Jacques Which means may your blood scream? No And of course as we know as of course as we all know the most horrific klingon insult Is habsosul kuk, which means your mother has a smooth forehead. Oh god You never want to say that I I might I you can't even say you can't say that on twitch Luckily, this will be edited before it reuploads I now i'm just thinking when you said all the language together my mind immediately goes to sapphire All of the languages merged together. It's a mix of like english turk, uh, the norwegian pretty much all languages. It sounds like this That's how I also Can I help you I want to I wanted like a Chickens, you know chicken.  Yeah, you can't say that on on any platform gastric bypass The no it's it's it actually and it is I would agree that it is offensive because it uses goo in a pejorative way It's not not good Shouldn't call people pejorative things about goo goo is love life and love and everything wonderful Uh, does wings make a cameo in the new spider-man?  I'm not gonna spoil If any more villains come out of the other dimensions they're getting banned, okay It's not the definitive spider-man Six If I hear anybody else talking about definitive spider-man, I'm gonna ban you I don't I don't have fun I don't swing webs.  Look listen Appearant offline does not Stop It's like dr. Strange stop the spell like appear it offline doesn't stop the spell Ban anybody offering advice And then you just have our sad moment right it's like the sad reflective moment when the hero's talking to the villain I just wanted that Sorry, I stop I'll stop This is too funny Um So the statement is yes And do you guys agree with that or disagree with that? I don't know the context. So I'll have to abstain Yes, I'll say yes rags Hmm Sorry, can you say the question again? I was I was just in a I'm sorry. I like legitimately like face There are times what was that there are times where you say that and it'll be really relevant for me to repeat it Because it's an actual question.  I'm gonna go with no just to try and balance this out. We got two yeses and and I was gonna say an obstination I'm assuming that's not a word It is now Speaking of worms losing body parts going crazy from being immortal at war Iconoclasts a cave story inspired game about a rogue mechanic in a secretly artificial wall that runs on magic worm juice Okay Magic worm chance for enough I was gonna say that that kind of story when you read it out loud You're like, yeah, why didn't someone make this ages ago? It seems so No, yeah, it's right there. Jeez Uh for as packed as the villain roster of no way home is I'm worried the end credit sequence of Venom 2 means they're going to stuff eddy in as well Uh, who knows I've said it in a bunch but after After the trash that is five. I just have to say it again. Everyone play infinite.  I have sad news. My dad likes army of the dead and said it's really cool I have no father anymore Oh, no, that's okay. Oh, okay. It's okay guys can think he can be odd sometimes it happens Yeah, he's just you know, that's okay. That's fine. He's wrong. Maybe just doing a dad joke Yeah, maybe maybe this is one elaborate dad joke The ultimate dad joke is liking that What the I remember that uh christmas with cliff video from another video on jcs's channel from years ago Did he nuke his channel at some point? I don't know I have no answer for that one Oh ragu the mighty fagu To sigh They they got away with that through a crazy font, but to be fair like you probably should be able to get away with that But I guess you can't Look upon my works my twerks you mighty and despair Mightiest of the shibu Shibu race Please tell us the sacred doggo rules for eternal life Hmm I don't know if you can just go around giving them out. Can you it's secret of eternal life? uh do Two baths a day and pine cones There you go I'm assuming they might want some more details, but that's I don't know if that's a secret you want to reveal That's all it's all you're getting need to get some Get a good a journey going get some stuff See my I think that my mind would lead me somewhere with this but just completely failed So just ignore that. I said anything and just go ahead and read the next project. I know how to do that. I do it whole bunch It's fine um So this is kind of I've just seen this variety James Cameron has ideas for the possibilities of streaming I want to do a movie that's six hours long And two and a half hours long at the same time What you can stream it for six hours or you can have a more condensed immersive version in a movie theater um James Cameron the long man, huh? I just see the six hour movie at home. It just it just feels like we're like we have those james. They're called tv shows really You could create gaps if you want or not. Yeah, or make it harder I guess his idea of just having a super long movie Well, yeah, because you just make it a two part of release the two parts in theaters Then release one version on like blu-ray because the thing is people will Naturally be like when's a good break so I don't want to watch six hours in a row and it's a movie So the tv shows don't provide Yeah, most people like I've got an hour free I can watch an episode of whatever but if it's like an hour free I can't watch six hours, but I'll stop at an hour. I guess no matter what's happening Right. Yes. What what are the natural breaks? I guess right? Yeah Wonder how many acts would be in a six hour movie Well, you could still have three acts, right? They'd just be like if you just made dune, you know And then that's gonna make it with 7000 acts gonna break I like the idea that you just make the film longer so that the 12 percent mark just becomes much much longer It's like so which point at what point does this rule start to fail the 12 percent if I make it a 15 hour long movie You know, is it cool that the whole movie is the first act uh Lol next time I get a quote for an oil change or something. I'm just gonna tell them all I have is 43 million dongs Well on them if they don't know the exchange, I don't like water. It's hot cold and gets everywhere Now let's say it could be hot cold at the same time I guess they're saying, you know, it can be both but I I I like those aspects of water Obviously, I don't like the extremes, but I mean, I'm a fan otherwise, you know I'm trying to think of a star wars joke that incorporates lukewarm into the Yes, uh Yeah, I don't have more time to work that one out. You've got the you've got the start of a really great idea I've got because there's the tonton one, of course, which is how hot is the inside of a tonton lukewarm Yeah, so being able to Oh by the way Just quick and accidental joke, I think rich abbins makes is like When they ask him Retroactively what's his opinion on like tfa and he says I was the only one who was lukewarm on that film when it came out And that's not a god damn By the way, this is probably an obvious observation, but like Spider-man is gonna make a lot of money Is it already making a lot of money Well, so I know that this is anecdotal, but like I'm going to Screening at a time that would not be considered very like Accessible for most people and there are a lot of people in it already honestly, um Could be wrong and you can Well, I guess the thing is is that um when I went to see Eternals I went on the opening night. I did go later, but like there weren't that many people there it's like maybe Well another question for that how how how jazzed were the audience with Eternals were they laughing murmuring a little I there was minimal laughter Um, which was kind of but then again Chong Chi also didn't get many laughs either like even at the obvious jokes There weren't there wasn't much laughter because it was surprised me Uh, just quick with with no way home and honestly gave me a quick knee-jerk reaction of man, this film is going to do well was There's a lot of laughing and the two big cheers from what is a very Not cheering audience typically at least in my experience I was I remember it because we've talked about this I've talked about it on stream before but I remember that I was uh, I was happy with but also somewhat disappointed with the audience When I went to watch Ragnarok because I was really impressed with like Jeff Goldblum All of his jokes, but those didn't get as many laughs as I felt they deserved I don't even know like I would I would watch a joke and I'd laugh my arse off Yeah, nobody else's laughing at us like that's you you're wrong With with me, I think I've said this before but I was with like five other people and all of us were like cry Laughing we were absolutely losing our shit. I kind of remember what the other the rest of the audience was doing You know what maybe this is maybe maybe it's just because I remember when I watched a sausage party that Seth Rogen Movie that was like a full theater and everybody was losing their shit at the like lost part of that film Which for the people who watched that film probably know what that is I remember seeing people on the like twitter saying that that part was shit and like it wasn't funny It's like man Like if I remember the theater I went to like everybody was laughing at that and it's like, hmm I wonder if uh, it isn't just me the Jeff Goldblum stuff was hilarious No, of course I adore it.    She's like, oh, I think it's falcre actually She like touches his face briefly goes to continue speaking that he just stopped. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I still don't really funny Um, and it's my birthday thing was really funny Do you want to follow the defense? Yeah, I am because it's good humor and it's annoying that people don't recognize that Of course we're defensive about something we think is being unfairly attacked Like, uh, I have I end up defending rag rock a lot because uh, a lot of people don't like it for many reasons But hella had a lot of funny lines that nobody laughed at either that was annoying. Do you remember the When Thor and Loki first sort of see each other and they're talking and loki's like stay quiet Like and they keep the whispering back and forth and back and forth Then suddenly Jeff Goldblum just feels like what are you talking about? What are you talking about?  Yay How many dong did he get? I don't know that man probably charges He charges a lot of he probably charges more dongs than I do Damn Oh, wait, I guess the reason why I brought up that uh, that sausage party one is it's like it is interesting to think about You know what the audience will laugh at um in terms of what they find funny versus what I think is really funny and working Yeah, um, it got a decent chunk of laughs out of the audience I was with uh no way home and and like I said, I I can't judge that against ragnarok So I can't remember what the audience was like. So I couldn't hear them over me anyway The uh, but I know that a lot of people found ragnarok to be not funny at all Which really surprised me that I mean, that's how it works but you know I I guess that's what I mean though is because when I because I didn't laugh at black widow, obviously I didn't laugh at black All right, well, I guess the stupid stuff we laughed at but I mean in terms of the idea of laughing like You know with it. I I don't think I've done that throughout I think I think the last time I laughed with the mcu was like episode one of one division and that was only a couple of times Uh episode two, right?  This is everything you've ever said. It's like that's yeah This is absurd. It's so absurd that I don't understand what this means in this world Yeah, like you don't know why anything of this like this is happening. Yeah, so if I laugh in no way home It's already doing better Just by virtue of getting one laugh out of me. I feel like I could say that and not spoil anything It's better than anything in phase four that I've seen Yay I was gonna say you guys like well Whoa, I know everything I need to know it's at least a four out of 10 God the pits that we're in Quality in the mcu at this point Also the clock's ticking. We're getting close to that. It's at least a four out of 10. Yeah It is okay. Whenever you must leave you may leave but uh We will we will continue until you do uh, what else we got here Don't like water. Uh, you don't understand though. Peter is the mcu isn't poor clearly not spider-man. Obviously. Duh gosh dawn It's done Except for that time when for a few years he had a whole company that he ran and as far as I'm concerned Uh, we don't even know because he's not really in the college years. He's in the high school years Which is the time he's built exactly where you are going to be supported Quite significantly and the idea that it's like no, you should be scrapping like completely. I'm just like, all right Hang on.  All right, chill. Maybe he will. Yeah, or this one There's still time for him to suffer horrific traumatic Uncle bed like this under the seat was like show me show me now. We're running out of time I know it's terrible Someone needs to do something Not my spider-man if bed isn't bugged with a banana All right, specific but fair Uh, your argument hurts my point. That's disingenuous A little bit. Yeah It feels that way sometimes I think definitive guardians is guns version to the point where most media copies that one Do they mean original one saying definitive? No, because again the flash destroys that notion Yeah, first there's a rich a lot of people are just they don't know what the originals Of these characters are I still know it's been so long as the king author is a really good example King Arthur is an excellent example. Oh, yeah very few people I because Uh, because th whites the once in future king isn't even the original That's just the the more the thing that brought it brought it back into the mainstream that we Base a lot of our imagery off of you have to keep going back and back and back and back and even then What was that you just don't know what the original was? And to be fair that is likely spider-man's fate fast forward 500 years Think of the amount of spider-man content that'll be out by then Like I said right now. There's a good chance a lot of people like ramy spider-man is spider-man Or some people be like, well, no, tom holland spider-man is spider-man And then there's a lot of and then you got the handle of people who think that it's tazam for some I guess so. Yeah, I don't want to say that they don't exist It's been the version of electro is the one who says don't you know before he says his name electro his Thebes It's he lies. I hope that they reprised that Spider-man is And then it's you missy spider. You got to do it. You got to do it I Bet Hassan love smelling gasoline Maybe Nugger lean that's what it's called Nuggy paste You know moll is never Driven if he said women can drive kappa. Wow. I can I've still been I've seen women drive Don't have to have driven Allegedly, um y'all here southpaw is making a civil war vid Good. Good luck. Um Key episode fives real bad. Oh, okay You might need to cover And also, I'm pretty sure that it has now confirms, uh, king ben Yeah, I think that's uh, I think that's just Yeah, so we'll have to see please please please please don't ruin him, please Please Don't try don't drag my dead devil peeps through the mud Uh, could you guys talk about world war z the book if you've read it? Also, would you consider doing episodes on books in the future? For example the winds of winter when it releases in the summer of 2041 No pretty much.  That's just that's I seriously doubt it Um as we're doing any book ever I guess I wouldn't rule that out entirely. I don't know what circumstance would have to rise for it to happen though Ain't gonna be world war z either. Yeah afraid Yeah, I I'm not looking forward to the idea of having to read a book For an e-fap Uncultured swine Yeah, I just I'm doing e-fap on my book when it's done. Hey fringy. Here's your book.   I don't know what the writer whoever they were Imagine we're like, no, it'd be great.  I'm like, no, I'm just reading it out. It's fine It was a sunny day in town place Bill walk the city of town's place. Hi, I'm bill and what a wonderful day it is Bill happily gleefully skipped to the shops to Walk around and do things and he did and it was nice It's like that I know it makes me happy that things have worked out so well for bill Yeah The price of independence of the oh wait go ahead I was just gonna say now is now is the time it is the time that I must Well, um, I'll save any that directly come to you, but I'll do is finish up the day's ones Fair enough. Yeah I'm sorry guys. I gotta go watch spider-man You know what and and it's it's an interesting thing because like I Of course, I'm nervous about this film. I'm looking forward to watching it I'm looking forward to watching this film Bring it. I hope you have a wonderful time Looking forward to talking to you. I hope I do too. I really do I really hope that even if like plots bad and everything I hope that I can at least be like man, at least the characters were great We got a great end to mcu spider-man's little arc that he's been going on and the future is exciting That's my hope anyway, but yeah, yeah, we'll see what happens Yeah, I suppose I'll talk to you I mean he was about it like if you're around as soon as I'm is that four hours from now Probably uh, you're going straight home from it Yeah, all right. Well, okay. Yeah. Yeah, three and a half. Yeah. All right See you later chatting peeps and everybody. Bye. Bye peeps. Hello I got away with calling him peen you'd even notice Nice Now that he's gone Do you guys want to know what my my if I if anything about my perspective on the film at all? Or you'd rather stay as as clean as I guess I don't know. I guess I don't mind if you really want to tell it. It's up to metal Uh, I'm I'm more invested in answering any burning question. Do you may think about before seeing it? Not necessarily what happens. Just well, I mean, I don't want any spoilers If you say it's good or bad or just thought I don't mind What are your ranks? Um Yeah, as long as it's spoiler free Well, the problem is saying it's good or bad is considered a spoiler almost for fringy because he I guess Sees it as like it will be indicative of what you may see in it. Um, I mean, we're pretty I mean, we we line up pretty similarly True. True. Yeah, it's it's I don't know when the last time I've been surprised by you or you by me You know, I'm sure it wouldn't in any way affect your uh, your viewing enjoyment of the thing for me to tell you anything In fact, if I said it was like catastrophic or incredible and it wasn't that for you I think you would just be like, huh And then you want to know why I said that as opposed to changing how you felt Yeah, I doubt even if we disagreed on how we felt about it. I would see why you thought that way But we tend to line up pretty darn close on a lot of stuff. Um, so I guess I wouldn't mind All right, like I doubt that I highly doubt that what anything you'd have to say would taint my viewing of it Um, well then With zero spoilers I guess I'll say what I felt about it And then I can give a vague on on how good I think it is How does that work? Yeah, sure. All right. All right. It goes. This is a big deal. Okay. Because this is the biggest movie ever Oh my goodness gracious.  I'm ready. I'm sitting. I'm sitting down. I'm ready. Let me stand up. Let me stand up Okay, I've sat back down. Okay. We're good. I'll say don't get out of breath. Jesus It like says okay, see you that guys. I'm not listing it's like All right, I mean he he's not gonna spoil it. He's just gonna say some things He's gonna end the stream. No, no, no, so genuinely 100% honestly um I loved it I think it might be okay to bad. I'm not sure That's fair enough I mean that who knows that happens with a fair amount of films But i'm really glad that you enjoyed it because that's sort of like i'm i'm legitimately not going into this thinking It's gonna be good Um, especially with all the stuff that's in it and all the juggling that they're doing with all the stuff that seems to be You know in the trailers and things What i'm aiming for and what i'm hoping for is that I go in And I and I laugh and I just like seeing all the stuff happening and I like seeing peter and I like seeing You know doc ock and everybody again. That's kind of what i'm in this for I I never was really Super, you know, I wasn't you know clenching my anus and Really hoping that it would be a legitimately great written film because I think i'm just I have realistic expectations particularly for just mcu stuff now But i'm really glad that you liked it and I hope that I will like it too as a result I had many an enjoyment and I feel like most people will I don't know why most people wouldn't um Feel like even the the fnt lads would be satisfied with a lot of the choices they make in this But we'll have to see I don't know Okay, and I would happily watch it again right now, but I have not booked for another viewing so That is fair enough and then I can watch it on blu-ray I'm all a bad cancel. Well, um, you hit it here first better than the father Wait, what? I knew it. Yo And those uh, those cheers from the audience were very enjoyable because I I felt similar, but I did not cheer Yeah, it it is I can't imagine that's very satisfying to know that the audience is liking a thing that you also like Like you're just sort of in this together. You're sort of on a team with these strangers in a weird way When you have cap picking up the hammer and all the heroes coming together in the end of the mcu Like it's easy to argue. That's a cultural moment and that we're all like man It's been so long.   Maybe this is more widespread than I thought like Uh, okay, cool Yeah, um, I don't see any reason why you metal infring you won't really like this Yeah, um Well, I hope I certainly hope I do and I certainly hope he does not to imply it's flawless I would never want to do that. In fact, I feel like I really didn't imply that when I first Yeah, I think when he said it's it's okay to bad. I think Well, that means it's bad I could be wrong on that. This is part of why I don't want to you know, I got lots to think about um And there are examples of things getting better with repeat viewing sometimes that you know, but Like I guess we'll see I'm I'm legitimately quite curious And yes saturday will be the efab breakdown of it and we're gonna have j I think indigo gaming and uh metal But it'll just be a good old-fashioned chronological breakdown. We'll talk about as much as we can Yeah, but I decided against it covering when I come back. It's like, uh Because we talked about it yesterday.   You're like why why?   Yeah All right, where are we surprise dinner treat for myself chicken and dumplings All right All right. Yeah, this can be really good Uh The price of an independence of the car is the independence of the legs in a sense The driver has stolen freedom from the walker as most of Most of the public spaces for cars. Hi rags. What is your best sword? Hello My best I only have one sword and it's the albion landograph and it's really great And I love it quite a bit and on my to-do list is to get a good scabbard for it Um, so I guess that's my best Have you spread butter on toast with that? I have not that would be unwieldy and uh, I might hurt myself But I got it on uh, the the brand at least was uh shad's recommendation Uh, and he definitely came through with that one because that is a fine piece of craftsmanship that sword It was pricey, but if it's for a good thing, man, I I really don't mind I I'm very glad that I got it. It's good to know that I have it Um, someone said you feel comfortable saying whether or not characters were ruined It's like I feel like that would be a little too much information for rags. Yeah, I wouldn't yeah I wouldn't want to know that. Yeah They will See for themselves before Knowing anything like that Then for all you and chacks, I know plenty of you are probably going to see it. You haven't seen it yet Um That gibberish. Oh wait. Um, have you guys seen the wonder chosen clips celebrate our differences? No No wonder shows in Yeah, I don't know what that is uh Celebrate our differences song by wonder shows in Uh, this is a video It's from a oh, okay. It's uh It's a it's from mtv About 30 seconds long Okay, I'll take a look at this later. I'll take a look at this later. All right. I'll leave that up Looks interesting like a parody of uh Uh, like a sesame street Uh greetings old tremors is an oldish movie that has aged pretty well might be good to cover october streams Just stop at four because the rest are so bad. They may be good, but I wouldn't ask that of you Yeah, I love the original tremors.  Uh, so I'd be interested to do that as an arc sometime Uh rags you your mother has a smooth forehead. Oh my goodness gracious. You can't be saying that banned That's incredibly insulting you take that back Um Spanish is Chad latin english is cringe germanic All right then latin is Chad latin.  I I feel like that's gonna have so much damage for the rest of my life Yeah, no way I wouldn't be able to play so many amazing incredible games for the rest of my life So you can't die in case like so you can get the stories at least but We'll play them vicariously through let's plays which is not my idea fun gaming So, yeah, no, I'm right. I'll leave the mill. I'll put it in the little bucket P on it What why did you put p on it? I didn't what you invented that one. No, you just said you got a p on it Yeah, I know To the pee Yeah Thor love and thunder is one of the only mcu phase four movies that I have faith in Taika Waititi is an amazing writer and director still cautious though The exact same take from me. I adore Yeah for everything He also wrote an episode of Mandalorian that was terrible. So I am Well, you said that's same for everything, right, uh, mel. Mike flanigan if you release the tv show I feel like it's a guarantee. We'll have good acting good monologues plenty of good ideas and good execution But I worry about the ending The ending different Different writers and directors and taika and a developer's but overall it's just like Taika's a mixed bag for me. Like sometimes you'll make a thing that I am in love with sometimes you'll make a thing where I'm like, oh Hmm, I don't know about that. Uh, so we'll have yeah It's I'm far happier to hear that he will be on it than me pretty almost all people Um You know, it's a tough choice between actors is michael clock duncan and vincent donafrio is kingpin different aspects of a great character Yeah, I love both those portrayals.  He's the black eye and green mile It's probably one of the most famous roles he had. Oh, okay. I got you. He talks like Super deep.  Oh that guy. Okay now. Yeah, I just just connected. Yeah And yeah, he was kingpin in the ben afleck did at the movie and I remember him being pretty badass as kingpin in that Yeah, I remember too. Yeah Um Long man sounds kind of disappointed by spooderman That's what a lot of people have interpreted my tweet to be My tweet was I've seen spider man. I have thoughts. I'll show them on saturday They're like, oh, that's it. That's all you said you have thoughts.   Maybe Um, I mean, you know Jay just tweeted out spider man a couple minutes ago Is that it just spider man spider man Look saturday, you'll get every answer you were looking for about my take on spider man. Don't worry Uh definitive edition just means the most recent version think about it. Does anybody initially release as a definitive edition of itself? You will uh, you are right in the it's weird for a game to have its first release be the definitive edition But I suppose if ever that happens you it's like the implication is we're not making any more after this or something like that Yeah, or they tell the or they sell a full experience first and then maybe chapters Something like that like the whole thing's done. You could buy the whole thing here But if you want you can buy it in segments It it generally is not it's not necessarily But it's just um like there's no reason the definitive edition couldn't be the first one It's just for for pretty clear reasons It doesn't seem to be the case that the definitive version of something is the first one that you put out It will change and be edited a bit over time and it will receive all of the updates that you want it to have Mola can't imitate someone's deep voice is that guy even in the human hearing range then dude Michael Park Duncan would probably be my pick for like deepest voice.  Don't let the drop bears bite.  Is that somehow into the formula to make it the treblers? I don't know I don't know. Maybe when I was thinking of the show. It was just like the font That came into my mind And when the font was coming into my mind the letters that just formed in my head were the Treblers And so I just said that because it's funny to me as well because it sounds like it might be real the treblers. I don't know It's like what is the treblers and it's like they tremble They make you tremble. Yeah I don't know I'll ask me to explain that It's a band that's called the treblers Oh The spider-man I grew up with was a one from the 90s animated show just shows you which one had an impact on you Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm that might be your definitive spider-man There's a man the amount of people who would be like the definitive joker is heath ledger Like excuse me mark hamill and then they're like no, I get it But other one walking phoenix maybe and they're like, whoa, no I mean, it's it's just yeah, it's not I get why you think that And maybe it's your definitive one. Maybe the ones that come that comes to your mind But to just say that it is it simply is As a fact of reality the definitive version of that character.  It might be terrible. It might not be complete. It might be completely unknown Like a lot of great things come from being built on previously not so great things I mean, who knew about the polka dot man, right before the suicide squad I That's a good example the definitive polka dot man. Is it really going to be the one for the comic? No, it's gonna be the movie one at least for now I'm like, that's not a crime or anything. You know, it's just how things work The definitive king Arthur is Artoria pendragon from fate. She's a girl in this version, but Merlin magically created a Something and something for her so she could be Mordred's father youtube censored me. Oh, okay I have no idea. I don't recognize any of that. I'm afraid It looks like the king Arthur myth Mordred was um Arthur's sister Who? they had uh relations And that is how I think that's how Gawain, Gehares, Agriven and Gareth were born I'd have to I'd have to rethink it I'd have to go Uh, Mordred is okay. I Mordred. Okay. I get I'm confused Arthur's Mordred Because the the the uh, let me just google it Morgaz, okay Morgaz was okay, so she was the mother of uh, Gawain, Gehares, Agriven, Gareth and Mordred, she had Mordred with Arthur So Morgaz is There, okay, okay I get I get there's a lot of names to keep straight I'm glad I remember the four brothers. All right technically five, but you know the four brothers together um My viewing of sputum and it's supposed to start in 10 minutes But the massives never send email confirmation guess I'll book tomorrow am instead for fuck's sake um Yeah, that's annoying Don't get to see your spodermen What a bunch of flunges says All right last time I swear everyone play infinite 343 really hit the ball out of the park with this one Mordred gay I know So many hours of the game leave me alone because they mel's playing it.    Remember we loved it. I love I like the robots the best That was the funnest part. I love I love how I they keep throwing Fucking androids that you had to fight for long segments as they gave up on making levels.  We spend an episode talking about its flaws high rags Hello Well, that might be the case that might be the case. It might just have really good characters or wonderful animation Who knows but I don't know I haven't seen it. We concluded the squid game had wonderful characters But really like kind of really shit plot and will building, you know, and I still think it's well worth seeing so Absolutely, I'm sure arcane is overhyped I'm sure that's the case because this thing has been hyped higher than literally anything, but I'm pretty sure it's probably going to be good to at least some degree with this level of praise from people The last super chat ketchup you were confused when I wrote the 666 rules strikes again, although I typed it 666 It's a rule fringy made up. Remember?  Sorry. I just don't I don't recall he made up just Fridge yourself I don't it might be I'm sorry I'm sorry. I don't remember. It's actually kind of funny because you said don't know what that means Then seconds later you discussed asinine assas rules i.e 12 percent inciting incident So he made up 666 rule as like a fakie Like example of a rule that would be made up. I can believe that I just can't remember what the rule was I want to violate those rules Arcane is almost assuredly overhyped.  Oh, no.  Everyone laughs Totally must be wrong with it Muntalo thoughts on brawl vs you schnitzel Wait, oh, that's supposed to be me. I legit didn't connect those two Me man, I think schnitzel gave it away too. Yeah, that's what that's when I was like schnitzel That couldn't be fun. This is only for me Brawl vs does that sound familiar? The schnitzel wine brawl vs Is that a wrestling thing? I'm doesn't brawl That's there. It's like the mcu the brawl verse Is all the different wrestlers from different, you know, Ip Yeah, yeah, it's the continuity of all the time for them to punch stuff. Yeah, it's their shared universe their lore The brawl verse brawl. I I don't know what that is I remember for pummel verse All right, then I saw tazms in theater, but I can't watch spooed because not jabbed feels bad man My province has given out test kits, so there's hope, but not by saturday, sadly Oh Really sorry to hear that. Um, well the film will be out for a while, right? Oh, I guess they want to see it before we cover it on saturday. Well, you know, that'll be a vaude for that So don't worry about spoils beolas Um, you you see yourself that movie if you get that chance go right ahead Um, hi rags. What is the gayest thing you've done in the last 72 hours?  Um, I suppose so, yeah Uh, I guess I was just in a guy mood. I don't know.  Yeah, that is very super gay But yeah, there's your answer.    That's that's one of the stories in the bible, right? Yeah, that is one of the stories in the bible just oh and also the story of jona, right? He was not swallowed by a whale. It was a big fish. Some people say swallowed by a whale, but it wasn't his big fish A whale can be a big fish No, they're mammals Yeah, but like Did the people who wrote the bible knew that now the bible now the bible does say that bats are birds So this is what i'm talking about. Okay, so someone So, I don't know. I forgot to carry a one somewhere with a taxonomy, but Um Also if you could have any game remade, which would you pick and why is it star wars bell from two? I'm honestly. I definitely wouldn't pick that. Well, wait if I will if our thing is like they get fixed And that's potential they get fixed. Oh, yeah, if they think it's fixed. There's absolutely potential I don't really ask you to remake. Yeah, I doubt I doubt the spirit of this question is like, you know, if it gets done horribly or anything because of Otherwise, we just say no like to all of it. Yeah um So wait if if the question was um remade then yeah, I'm assuming that's a ground up thing Sure. Yeah in which um Hmm Man, that's a stuff other than I thought Maybe Marys sunshine would actually be a potential for that so you can get all the levels completed and get the glitches out and Maybe do some more crazy cool stuff with the goo Obviously higher fringes maybe You know expert information on that Maybe fallout one or two I haven't played those but I bet a lot of people would appreciate like a new A remake of those first fallout games before you know three came out and really brought it into a more popular light um but uh fallout new vegas is up there too But i'm almost thinking like should I Should I use my choice for a bad game that we get a good version of? That were like a really flawed game that we get a better version of Um, yeah, I'm not sure. Um That's really really tough to say. Um Um A game that could have been like really great, but wasn't Um, gosh, I don't know. That's really tough. Um, you know what someone mentioned it I might actually agree with him fallout 76 Fix it up.  I I think I would really really enjoy that in fact um, so I think I think I'm actually going to take that to be my answer I quite liked um the suggestion of biojog infinite. I feel like this Yeah, we completely redo that game.  I don't I don't even want a good version of that game. I feel This stuff in infinite that I think we we can see what can become of that in a good game But like rebirth. I don't I don't know Why did you even exist you existed because you guys were like, oh man, they love the original amnesia But they didn't like soma so now maybe if we make a sequel to to amnesia and they'll love it and we'll even tie it in That'd be great Someone mentioned the last of us too I mean, yeah, I think that's fair I'm gonna stick with my I'm gonna stick with fallout 76. What I'm going for for a game I've played a lot as a child and I really liked as a as a young lad to rock 2 I could be cool in a with with everything new What if it isn't?   Ruho up to People don't know that game and 64 seeds of evil or yeah Okay, I know of it. But I never played it Because I just sold J. Right. I opened chat for the first time today. I see James working two rock two like the numbers two Too, rock, too.  Yes James isn't a boomer on screw y'all. I'm gonna close chat again. It was being pandas a hyper game They gave themselves into extinction. Yes.   I have not closed. I don't know if it's class or cause Yeah, Norm MacDonald it voices one of the characters in that it's like a Stylized animation of I don't even know what the plot is. Hmm, but yeah, I'd be down for watching that sometime I'm not saying it either If China took over Japan would all anime just be Chinese cartoons if Japan to go over the world would all cartoons become anime Hello Raggles Hello Unfortunately, they probably would The Japanese nation attacked and everything became anime Including we are the resistance. Oh, no, I miss ER high rags Hello, he's been gone for a while now The wind from the I'm still the the the avatar at la live-action thing that could wake him from his slumber And we'll get some more y'all videos, maybe But yeah, that is us having caught up with today's flumbo's I'm probably gonna cut it out there because we've hit a nice strong four hours 40 minutes We literally didn't catch up with a single super chat Wow, really? Yeah A couple long conversations today. I think it was a good fun stream. Yeah, I enjoyed it. I had fun I'm glad I was here. So that you know, you know something and So the plan e-fappers is Saturday normal e-fap normal time talking about Spundo Then that Wednesday, you're getting a Pre-recorded like I think nine hour e-fap. That's already it's already been cooked. It's all ready for you How exciting while that premieres on moola, we will record an offline catch-up Probably so we'll definitely catch a bit more by then And then the Saturday following that is Christmas So I'm not actually 100 short our plans are going to be yet. So I don't know what everyone's availability is Surrounding Christmas day, you know, even like Christmas Eve and New Year's Day. I'm sorry on New Year's Day the boxing day Can be busy for a lot of people. So We shall see um But yeah, that's that's the plan and there will be more of all the different kinds of things coming as time goes on Super chat so you can keep going for nine more hours I read that out in less than nine hours Yeah, get fucked. You're so bad at this Uh, lol, you need to change the name of the stream I didn't spoil spider-man Oh, well, we I guess yeah, super chat catch-up. Okay. No, you know what? I'll read one from the backlog. So It's the true title thoughts on the new ghost busters. None of us have seen it as far as I know I have not seen it. Honestly. I don't have any interest in saying it I forgot that came out. I thought I'd be interested in seeing it and I just didn't Um, and I haven't and I think once the red letter media video on it. Yeah, I did that too. I I just I don't know. I just I haven't got the drive. I thought I would but I don't Yeah, I just don't care uh Got my pc gaming going strong also. Thanks rags Oh, uh, you're welcome.  I was just reminding I'm doing the metals forge now The there's my shelf for that. I don't know if that did you put a link for that? No, no, it's the twitch. That's fine. Uh Yeah, I'm gonna I'm probably gonna skip the the one this week because there's some work to do before I'm on my vacaciones But yeah, I'm I'm trying to do one early early next week And maybe do two next week. So that's like That's like catch up I guess Also on monday. I planned a a drunken stream. So That's gonna happen on the twitch So it should be fun. All kinds of massive will be there. It's gonna be gonna be good stuff Awesome.  Um We'll see you guys on saturday Get hype Oh, yeah, we'll see you then. We'll talk about the spundo. Yeah It's a sponderman. Blah. The last one says super chat oroboros. All right. Good night, everybody Dude hello. Goodbye


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