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We apologize for any inconvenience, but we are still assessing the interruption. If you have just entered our territory, or at the start of your journey along the Q-line.  I'm at her, okay? I paid a lot of money for this. Oh my God, like, you got it at that $5 haircut place. I'm $5 haircut? It was $11. Oh my God. I want to point out how the modeling agency came to me first. But then they saw me, and they had to, mm-mm. Really copying my hairstyle, guys. Okay, I have to work really hard for this. And he thinks he can do it, she thinks she can do it. I think we should announce that we are quitting our careers as YouTubers. We've been sought out. Yep. And, um, you know what's bad about it. Girls do this. I don't know. You know what's bad about it. We are girls. You should have just gone and quit. Yeah, hang on tight. Okay. We're done here. Oh my God. Oh my God.  Oh, that was terrible. That was so much fun though. April Fool's. Uh, that was such a bad in April Fool's joke. But you know what? It was pretty fun. We had a lot of fun. Shout out though. Shout out to anyone who are like girls and guys or just whatever who have over six inches of hair. Shout out to you. Yeah. Like maintaining that and keeping that everywhere. I don't, I don't know. I'm having a mental breakdown. Hmm. Why am I not turning the volume off? Oh yeah. Oh. Woo. Okay. So we bought wigs. The reason we have wigs is we're starting a new skit for both Sirius Tiktok and my YouTube channel. Um, we're going to do, we're going to walk around Wonderland and act like ditzy blonde girls, but I can't stay in character. I didn't stick to my storyline at all. We're going to get into it though. Practice. We need a few practice runs. Guys, that was the first time we're going to, we're going to master this. We need to develop like individual personalities. Yeah. Oh, look how red I am now. I know. I'm like, I don't know. I know. I know. I'm like a tomato. It's just my face. Okay. Legitimate question though. Does long hair actually make things get hot? Yeah. Does it? We were boiling. Like I'm still boiling. Yeah. Like mad respect for girls right now. Like you guys, you girls, you girls know what's going on. Oh my God. Yeah. We do need a Beyonce fan for the walk-in. We'll get someone blowing air at us as we're walking into Wonderland. What's Beyonce's most famous song? You know what we should do? Walk around Wonderland with the wigs and we're acting all tough and ditzy and all that, but then it'll cut scene to everyone else's reactions of us.  We're going to do a challenge when we try and walk around Wonderland in high heels. I would do that. I would ride Leviathan in high heels. Oh. Skyhawk flip is skyhawk in high heels. That's a weapon. Oh my God. Okay. Okay. We're so derailed. Just not the water park because they don't want to see her cankles. Oh my God. Okay. Let's skip to the No More Hippo model agency. Guys, don't worry. We're still doing YouTube. I think I was a stroke of genius. Okay. This is your week. Did we go to King's Dominion and thing this week? Yes, we did. We did. Okay. Wonder what we get back. Monday morning. That's why it's so weird. Guys, we didn't do a podcast last Saturday. That's why things feel a little like, you know, it kind of feels like we're starting again for the first time, but we're not. I think we originally wanted to. What? Do something, right? Because we thought about you guys. So we're not like, you know, I know we didn't post anything. We weren't like. We didn't think about them. We're not going to lie to you guys. We were riding roller coasters and we completely forgot. No. After the park, we originally, the original plan was to do something maybe in the parking lot or whatever for half an hour. But then after the park, we all got hungry even though we ate so much and then we went to Sonics and I was quite disappointing. So we went back to the hotel and cried about it. I got to be real with them. I can't lie to them. Okay. But can you describe, so I'll describe you.  Like he was just so ecstatic to ride a roller coaster.  But he was enjoying every minute of it. He was enjoying it. It was cute. The vlogs are fun.  Then there's me. How would you describe my trip? Okay. So you know what? It actually went a little bit different than I thought because regardless, I knew Brendan was going to have fun. I knew he was going to enjoy it. But he's going there for the whole experience, not necessarily just the roller coasters. He just wants to experience something new. But when we got there and the first ride we rode was tempasto and just walking up, you know, like not saying you don't show emotion because that's just not really bad because you do. He does.  He's like, okay, yeah, roller coaster. It's fun. But okay. Yeah, let's ride it. Well, we sat down on tempasto and he started like, is this intense? Is this intense? Does this go fast? And oh my God, he absolutely loved it. Same with Apollo's chariot.  We're going up. The lift hill is relatively short and he's like, you know, getting the camera in already. And he's like, yeah, I'm excited.  And it was going really good. So he really enjoyed that. I think you had a lot more fun at Bush Gardens than you thought you would. I did. But I think I learned on this trip. I'm a lot more general public than I realized. I wasn't handling the ride so well, but should I show them? I think you should show them. Why don't we show you guys a little six minute clip of our reactions, our reactions. Don't watch the last 30 seconds. On the rides. Here we go. Oh my God. Is it scary? He goes right away. Oh no, you don't know how to put it in there. I'm scared. Is it like super intense up here? Thank you. It's getting that far. There's nothing to hold onto. That's far clear. Now sit back with your back. A little sloppy. Sit back. Sit back. Over here has been fearing for my life. The only reason now I'm worrying him though is because he's right out in my family. Okay, like if I die on this thing, you're... If you could do temp, I still find you're probably going to be flying here, but there will be probably a lot of people here. I'm scared. No prejudice. What if I gray out? Then you gray out. It's going to be a little 10 second clip to the beginning of the vlog. Everyone has said I'm going to hate this ride. I'm just going to watch the reaction. It's a fun trip, needless to say. Oh my goodness. Okay, I kind of want to just dive into it. Can we dissect it? Okay, what do you want to dissect? Okay, so we kind of already know this because we talked a lot about it in the car and stuff, but Brendan, Busch Gardens, Williamsburg, I know you had high hopes for it, but what did you honestly think of it? It's my new favorite park. My new favorite park. And we didn't even get to ride the dive coaster or dark coaster. So two coasters we missed. It's so good. It's so beautiful. I know. Mr. Sammich says, why are you afraid of the not so scary rides? Guys, you don't understand. That sky thing, it does this. And you're on a cable, okay? We know what happens. If you know what Dragster used to do, we know what happens to cables. Oh my God! You can't just be going around saying stuff like that. We did go to the dark coaster preview area. Honestly, the park's so good though. Everything about it. Apollo's Turret, craps on behemoth.  It craps on behemoth.  And behemoth is just like, ah! And you know how behemoth, when it trims, everything dies? When Apollo trims, it's just like, oh, you think that's enough to slow me down? You saw my reaction. I literally thought we were on the break run, and it's just like, 90 degree drop into a... Okay, I want to talk about Alpengeist. Alpengeist is my third favorite steel roller coaster. I was telling him this ride is nothing to trifle over. Like, this ride is intense. And I don't think they believe me. So what did you first think of Alpengeist? And you all saw the video.  It is so big. Like, the video doesn't do it justice. Like that, it's like, how tall is it? 196 feet tall. Is that from the bottom of the... Oh, okay. It goes on forever. Like, and these elements are like... They're huge. But you know what it is? Like, they're huge. They're a little drawn out, but the train is just going so fast that it doesn't feel drawn out. I love Alpengeist. It's one of my favorite rides in the world now. Literally. Pantheon. Pantheon was amazing. Amazing. Amazing even though I look like... He's never ridden a roller coaster before, guys. He doesn't even know what... Did it go fast? I'm literally like, is it scary? Yeah. That's my... Oh my God. Oh, and then Invader, he grayed out on... So...  Guys, Invader, and it looks like if you look at a picture of it, you're probably thinking, what is that? That's nothing.  And coming into the break run, it does this dive down into a valley, like a big U-band, and it is so sharp, and we come into the break run, and it's like, I just grayed out! Well, at least I'm not scared of a goddamn gondola. Oh my God, who are you?  Yeah, you too. I don't want to hear it. Sorry, I'm afraid of these 191 feet tall inverts. Like a normal goddamn person! For Bolton? What did you think of for Bolton? For Bolton was good. So like, I watched back the footage. This is how I... Because in the moment, it's because I had such high anticipations for it that when I came off of it, I was like, that didn't really meet it, but then when I look at the clip and hear myself, I'm having fun. So it's a great ride. It was definitely just a little shy of my expectations. A little shy. Would for Bolton be a good fit at Wonderland? Yeah, any of those... Not saying that. Any of those rides would be a good fit at Wonderland. And that's the thing that every single ride at that park would be a good fit at Wonderland. And all those rides, each one is completely different. Like, okay, I'm not hating on Leviathan or Behemoth, but everyone can agree they're pretty similar, right? But like, there is nothing like Apollo's Chariot in that park. There's nothing else like Alpingeis in that park. Like, each attraction they pick is unique from everything else in the park and the surrounding area. So I think that's one of the reasons why their lineup is so good. Yeah. And then we went to King's Dominion, and then we left and went back to... Wait, wait, two hours I can't stop it. We got the RMC. We got Flight of Fear. No I-305. Oh, yeah. No. I wouldn't go back to King's Dominion without I-305. It was so bad. It was so bad. I was pretty shocked, to be honest, like with the One Train thing. Like, you know, they had All Season 9. I guess that really does... Well, it shows a few things. Like, yeah, maybe they're going through more of a staffing shortage, but it shows Wonderland, like, you know, as much as...  But at these other parks, the standard is just having one train on. And, you know, you would never see that at Wonderland. So big shout out to Wonderland because it is a very frustrating experience to pay full, full admission prices, but only getting a quarter of what the park has to offer. And unfortunately, that was our experience at Kings Dominion. I've just been informed that the Patreon chat isn't working. I'm just trying to quickly fix that. Even, you know, Bush Gardens, like, it was a little frustrating with Pantheon only having one train, but, you know what, they did open it. So, you know, at least they opened it. And, you know, we were, I think we were pretty lucky to get on it because that first day we went there, they were testing it. They were testing it, but they didn't open it. And then we were at Kings Dominion and we got word that, hey, you know what, Pantheon is open and we spent 20 minutes trying to confirm that it was open and it was. And then they're like, yep, get in the car. We're getting out of here. We're going to go ride some real rides. I think I figured I had to fix it. Keep talking. Not saying that, like, Kings Dominion is a bad park or anything, but I don't know, operations-wise, they have a lot of stuff they need to sort out. So that was extremely frustrating. At Kings Dominion, though, I like Twisted Timbers. Obviously, I 305, but that wasn't open. And Dominator, I think Dominator is a very pleasant surprise. I think a ride-like Dominator, you know, and a B&M sit-down would be great at Wonderland. There we go. Ooh. Pretty much anything at Busch Gardens Williamsburg, would be good at Wonderland. Speaking of I-305, you know what? I don't even want it. First of all, sediment over there doesn't even have the right hair. No, you know what?  Like, okay, I love Kings Dominion, but I'm getting so fed up with them guys. So Matt and I are going back next week. And it's spring break right now in the U.S. So the park is open from 11 to 8. You know, this is a busy time for them and they don't even have it open. They haven't been announcing whether or not it's open. Everyone still says it's closed. Yet Kings Dominion is still posting it on their website. As if it's open. You literally look up Kings Dominion right now. Go to rides. The first thing that's going to show up is a picture of I-305. And then they're going to be like, come ride our 13th thrilling rollercoaster, including Intimidator 305, one of the tallest, fastest in the world. It's not working. Kings Dominion, it is not working. Why isn't it working? Just tell people it's not working. But no, you know what? They do this on purpose because they know without I-305, Dorney Park is better than Kings Dominion without I-305.  We're not going to tell anyone that it's closed. Everyone's going to come and they'll be disappointed. But you know what?  You've gone too far. You've gone too far. This is quite delicious. Thank you. I need a piss. Yeah, you need to calm down there.  It was probably probably too high. Yeah, we need to lower that a little bit. So yeah, I don't think you're riding this. We're supposed to be there Saturday and Sunday. I don't think we're on the I don't think I'm riding it either. Oh, that's so I like, what could possibly be going on with I-305? I don't think staffing at this point for how long they've been open is an excuse anymore because if they can staff the dip and dot stand but can't open this. And so I think it has to be mechanical, but no one has said anything. So maybe Kings and Minions just playing games with everybody and be like, you know, let's see how upset we can get all the coaster enthusiasts. Heather Hill would never allow what was going on at that park to happen at Wonderland ever.  No, no, no, I'm telling this story. So there's clips of us. We were singing. We were belting the entire drive to the theme parks. Okay, like karaoke singing. He lost his voice. He got a sore throat. So I bought, he bought hauls. Okay. And he went through them really fast. I didn't know why. I bought my own bag of hauls because I lost my voice a little bit. Okay. I had two of my soothing hauls and my throat was fixed. Want to know why?  What does this ogre of a human being do to his hauls? Why do they make them taste like candy then?  They taste like candy.  Do you not? Look. No. Oh, the teeth. Oh, it's delicious. Why don't you do a little ASMR at this point? Okay. Like a bag of 30 hauls gone in the span of an hour. An hour. An hour. I don't even think that's legally okay. I think on the back of the bag it says have two max or four max in the span of like... My throat was still not better because you're crunching them and they're going into your stomach. It's avoiding the whole throat process.  I just clued into something... to enjoy them slowly for the medicine, okay? The medicine to coat your throat. They are 100% candy and I'm going to keep eating them like candy. They're quite nice actually.  I don't have anyone. I don't have any guests. You should see a therapist. I am! You should bring up that hauls story because she's concerning. She's still confused why I'm single? She's confused why I'm confused.  I try. My goodness. Hungry. Okay, but back to I-305. Oh, right. I think... Okay, I love King's Dominion. I love I-305. It's my favorite steel coaster. But I think what's happening here is unacceptable for Cedar Fair for any Cedar Fair operation. This is Six Flags behavior and King's Dominion was operating at a Six Flags level. Like, Cedar Fair prides themselves Keep going. Don't look at my reaction. They pride themselves, you know, at having good operations, you know, good good riderships and stuff like that. I am so sorry for the opinions being expressed by Surya on this podcast right now. Yeah, just King's Dominion! But no! And I don't know, King's Dominion's just fallen off. Like, they have the trains on I-305, but they're not telling anyone, at least with Wonderland, you know, like, Wonderland, when something goes wrong, they make the biggest effort out there to get it fixed properly, right? And fast. Like, look, when Leviathan blew its lift motor, six days, that whole process to get a motor from Florida 2,000 kilometers away installed and working only took six days. And $500,000. Oh, King's Dominion doesn't even have a quarter of that! It only took them six days! And $500,000 check. But they were able to do it. So, like, you know, when the park opens, when Wonderland opens, when you're testing all these rides, everything will be ready to go. Yeah, maybe there'll be one or two things.  What about Leviathan? There are two trains. Two trains? There's better than no trains. They'll have the third train on, unless there's something wrong with it. Did you sit on that one train a little too much last season? Because I am a train too. But no, like, they have everything ready to go. That's what I'm saying. It's all ready to go. I don't know what's going on at King's Dominion, and it's just extremely, extremely frustrating. And I think the worst part is, they are charging full price for that experience. That is a Six Flags move. Did they get the gearbox from SeaWorld Orlando? They did, right? Yeah, me too. Yeah. Um, I don't know. Like, King's Dominion, like, and I got hate. When I say I got hate, I got like three messages.  I don't even think it's mediocre.  Cause, this is what, this is racer. I don't care. What, what, Anaconda is what they have? The, Anaconda? No, no, like their arrow. Yeah. Yeah. Anaconda. Crap. Um, Flight of Fear, cool, but I can go to another park and ride that. Um, the One Train Ops on Tumbili. Okay, cool. I've been on the bigger one. I know that the smaller ones, but, so I was just like, been there, done that. Um, Twisted Timbers, it's cool and all. It pulls forces. It's great, but like, I didn't drive, well, I didn't drive. I didn't sit in the passenger seat, being a passenger Betty, Princess, for what, 10 hours, 8 hours? 10 hours, yeah. 10 hours to ride Twisted Timbers. We drove for I-305, and it wasn't open. Um, The Dominator. The Dominator was really good. It was really good. But like, again, like, people complain about Wonderland only having a good top 3. Wonderland has a better line up than this park does. I'll take those mediocre coasters having, like, I'm sorry, Anaconda is so painful. I would never ride that again. That's how bad it is. Um, I could totally see it being better with, um, Volcano there, Lucan. Um, and yeah, I mean, it's not a beautiful park in my opinion. It's very like Six Flags feeling, like you said, but you said it for different reasons. Um, yeah, I don't know, I wasn't, I was let down. I, I was, I was hating on it. I was like walking around that trash. I was like Jeffree Star walking around that park, trash, trash, trash. With I-305 open, I would, 100% takes King's Dominion. I think Twisted Timbers and Dominator are, and Flight of Fear are really good too. But, it's just the operation. The one train, that pisses me, that gets me upset the most is when parks do one train. To me, that means they're not ready and I would almost prefer the ride not be open and they announce they're delaying it to get both trains up and running. I think one train on anything is unacceptable. Yeah. Unless there's like weather. All right. Let's not talk about the tea yet. Should we talk about, since we're kind of already? No, because that's a segue into 2025. 2025 is going to be a really big topic for the rest of our lives. It's all 2020. Let's do this. Snoopy's Racing Railway. Do you fit? What? Who said that? Hello? Put the wig on. It's going to be so funny at media day. We're going to like literally sit in the train and we're going to be the only two people statusing like the track. Like the station starts to cave in. Oh, so like all the vloggers are outside. We're in there. They just see the station crumbling. CP 24 is like, get the helicopter. The whole thing is cave in. We're riding the ride and the tracks like caving in behind us. What's the tire launch? Does it work? It's on you. I'm sorry. We can't launch it. Oh my god. Okay. Come on. This is your cup of tea. Okay. So it is going to have all the theming. Okay. According to Wonderland's park map and all that, the good news is it's going to have all the theming. I still don't see Snoopy on the back of that train though, but it shows it. The green is the track that's now installed. I find it really interesting that the track and the station has been put in, but the station is about like 50% built. Just even for me too. Which way is the travel direction? This way. So I suspect this coaster will be done Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday. They were installing the power and hooking it up on Thursday when we last flew. What's that? Thursday? Yeah, because we didn't fly Friday, right? No. Yeah, so it's Thursday. Yeah. And you will require a kid and it will, the entrance and exit will come out next to Lucy's tugboat just off to the left where there was, what do you call those? Coca-Cola machines. The new park map does look fire, but it's really grainy and hard to see when you zoom in. Oh, let me see if I'm still this way and I can ride on my own. But it makes sense, guys.  So just to bring it back, when you said theming, were you mean just the buildings or do we get those towers and stuff too? So they show the tower. So it's going to have the second launch shed. It may not have that little circular tower, but I know it has this little building here. It has all the buildings but I don't see the waterfall. So the waterfall and that little circular building it might not have. But yeah, things are being built really quick. Tundra Twister fell a little bit behind due to weather. But we have been told that the rides will be ready for the end of April. It's not Kings Dominion. Wonderland's like there's been no delays and we were confirmed that. So yeah. I mean, I'm excited for Tundra Twister. This is a great ride and it's going to look beautiful. It's going to look so good. But I am excited for Tundra Twister.  Checking all the bolts.  Have your attention. Please remain seated. This ride has stopped temporarily and will resume at any time. Okay. Okay. We're back. Tundra Twisters is just being installed. They're going to install the other one. They were setting up today, you said. Yeah, they had one of the cranes there. So I'll check tomorrow. We'll see. Working on the weekends means they fell behind and they're trying to catch up. But yeah. So this thing, the supports are built like Surya. So tiny legs and then a big I can fit on the bias if that's all that matters. I don't know how these little supports are going to hold. They're probably very thick. If I have to guess. So I'm excited for Tundra Twister. So excited. Like the forces I'm just picturing hopefully Wonderland runs it like a good flat ride.  I think we're going to get one way like one swing one way one swing the other way on this to be honest. The second one might be up so they were there working on it. You left at around 4 30pm and they were setting up the second column. Yeah. Yeah. So I want to fly tomorrow then I'm hoping it has that beam across too because that would really say you guys want to see something cool. No, I'll have a part today. Did you? I have a part to show today. This is actually really cool. That's it for the podcast guys. Goodbye. We lied about the tea. We are going to get ready to start sharing a little more tea maybe discussion about La Ronde on the next podcast you're on. We'll start talking about La Ronde. Which is going to be shocking for you guys. So La Ronde is coming up on the radar. We won't talk about that today. So keep that in mind. Keep La Ronde in mind. Let's talk about so you guys have been watching my construction updates. I know all 124 of you better drop a like right now on this live stream. They're leaving. You don't have to like the live stream. All 117 of you don't have to like the live stream. We're okay. Let's talk about Frunke. Okay. Where were we? Was that Maryland? Were the Outback Steakhouse to remember the story? That's what this was looking like. So for those of you that have been keeping up with my channel I've been working on a really cool project with Escape Designs. They're engineers and they do they did some work for me and now they do some work for Theme Park Predictions as well. I have literally hired them to work on a really cool project. This is just the like this looks like the project like you're looking at Frunke right now this looks like the project but trust me it's bigger than this. It's bigger than this. Think World Expo. So it's a pretty penny for a Canadian but it's really cool. Serious seen it. How cool do you think it is? It's really cool. Really detailed, like amazing. Yeah, like super detailed. So those are the teasers you were seeing at the beginning of the video because we are very confident that Wonderland is going to start working on their toll plazas and their Frunke 8 over the next couple of years. What's scaring the crap out of me though seeing the refurbishment occurring right now. So if you've kept up with my videos you've been seeing people going in and out of that right side of the building or left side depending on where you're standing gutting it and working on it which scares me because that's almost like Cedar Fair being like the Frunke 8 is good. We could just you know make some modifications like a little thing and unless you know maybe they think like okay we're still going to do the Frunke 8 you know but based off how busy they think it's going to be this year we just got to get something done to tie it over. That's true. All the season pass numbers might be scaring the crap out of them. Just rip it out for now. I didn't even think about it. Thank you. Calm me down. Because we are very... We've heard some pretty about what season passes. We'll know that too. But we know that Frunke 8 Renault is coming. It's been in the works people have even come up who work high and have come up and said like you know Cedar Fair has just delayed it and that was like what two three seasons ago? Yeah. Cedar Fair had just delayed like we're due for a Renault they just keep postponing it a little bit. I think it's because World Expo. And I think that this would be the most obvious direction to go for Wonderland. Like a nice tempered kid at our lodge style. Lodge style, beautiful, just looks like you know like Canadian. Yeah. Like a ski resort type thing. The direction the park is heading, anyone who works at the park you've probably heard this too they are literally trying to become Canada's Wonderland. That huge emphasis on Canada's Wonderland. So it would only make sense that they go down this. So the team I'm working with whipped up a Canadian design that is super functional. Like when you see the details, everything on how to get into the park, it's all there the walkthrough, the security posts, how to get better flow. Like the engineers went into super detail. Two exits away from the entrance so the guest flow isn't like, and you don't have to shut down the entrance tolls and turn them into exits halfway through the day and it's all self-service. It's all self-service. Getting into the park everything. You don't need employees. Bye. But what's even cooler is there's something missing in this photo and that is the thing they're working on right now. So it's an unfinished project. This team is also building something for the channel. I wonder what it could be. What is that? Is that an intimate multi-launch with a vertical spike? Oh my God and didn't Wonderland just recently have its launch record taken from it? I believe it's 64 kilometers That's personal beef. We know how Cedar Fair feels about their records. And it seems like these new generation intimates are getting quite popular. I've seen a few other parks have gotten them. I think Cedar Fair was rumored to be checking out one as well. They better have been I wonder what park that could be for. Not Kings Dominion No, no, no. It has Flight of Fear. What about Kings Island? They also have a Flight of Fear, don't they? Oh, Caroline's Popperhead. It's for Cedar Point. Oh, yeah, because they need another launch coaster, right? Oh, Topsill Dragster. Oh, Spike. Oh, Dorney and everything else is too small. What about Knott's Berry Farm? I don't think they have space. I was expecting a space accelerator. Oh my goodness. So what parks are left? Six Flags Great Event. Oh, sorry, sorry. You're thinking of Six Flags Parks. They're all going under. So guys, if... Very flat. That's a good postcard. What the? Can they see that? Yes. The stream see that? Okay, this is good. This is really good. That's not open. I'm getting bullied by my patrons. Um, okay. You guys derailed me. Uh, multi-launch, multi-launch, multi-launch. Bri... naps, naps. Um... I'm sorry, Craig was texting me why he wasn't here. Oh, for fuck'sake. Craig was supposed to be here. He had an emergency. I think it was the wigs that scared him off truthfully. Oh, that would attract me. Um... So, think about it, guys. It is concrete as day. We will eventually get an intimate double launch coaster, whether they'll build it in the final attraction for Frontier Canada or it'll be one of the attractions that replaces Flight... I'm sorry that ends up in World Expo. Who knows? Like we really don't know that. Although now it would be cool if we get a brand new themed area to open up that brand new themed area with a star attraction. What brand new theme? Oh World Expo. Yeah because when they opened up Frontier Canada didn't they also? Yeah but World Expo is technically there. It's on the map but you know Flight Deck in World Expo. I find it so offensive too. Okay like if we really want to look at how offensive Flight Deck is I don't know. So the area that Flight Deck sits in if you just look off to the left. It's just offensive. Okay it's not really offensive but like I feel like Gen Z in like five years from now would look at that and be like um but yeah. I think this would be a really good fit though for the park because one we are missing a good launch coaster. Backlot doesn't count. Snoopy doesn't count. Two we are missing like that more high intensity thrill ride that just wows people. So literally wows people. Here let me remove my patreons they're disrespectful I'm kidding. You'll come back. Here let's put this down here. Oh good it hides my double chins I love it. Guys look how skinny I look. Um so yeah you know these rides they could be as big or as small as you know the park wants they can well yeah. No I'm the small one. He's dragged to reimagine. And what are you skinny legend. You're uncomfortable like King Degas. Oh but no so like they can make it any size they want right but obviously Wonderland being Wonderland they would go I would assume Wonderland would go with something even bigger than Pantheon like imagine a 225 foot spike probably around there a 200 foot top hat like that would look incredible what would that do to the skyline two structures 200 plus feet tall that would be really cool. Yeah that would add to our skyline um you know and they could make it long too they could make it to accommodate three trains Pantheon only has two so Wonderland needs the capacity they could do three maybe even four they could do dual loading there's so many things they could do they could do slide tracks they could do transfers Intamin can really do like a such a robust you know category of different things they can do um which would all benefit Wonderland so I think that's another reason why you know it would make sense for an Intamin. So the only thing I'm curious about is I've heard Intamin's can run in winter but how come Pantheon doesn't and a warmer climate too honestly maybe because it's newer they don't want to like so maybe not much stress on their new ride I can't see what I don't think this would ever be a winter fast ride no no 100% not it might also be because they would be worried about it rolling back like at that point yeah um but oh man Frontier Canada or World Expo okay let's think about what they could theme these two what what what could you theme Pantheon the only reason it has to be frontier Canada in my opinion is so I was dead sold on the mock spinner or a mock double launch and it was going to be themed to logging buzz saw it's just a thing it's that that ride was made by escape designs as well um and now they're making up oh how ma the Patriots are out of control here that's a good one look it's spying okay um um what was I talking about something about theming theming okay this table will be dirty dirty railing us I can't the disrespect is insane today what's that I don't get that one storm coaster oh is that an actual thing it's an indoor coaster is it I don't know yeah is that an intimate that looks like an intimate or mock no that's a mock no I think that's an intimate I don't know oh my god the disrespect coming from the Patriots today you guys are getting no newsletter this month okay um so oh it's Peter okay so this is the tricky thing because like I was sold on the mock extreme spinner like so I just don't look at the chat just don't look at the chat or it will be derailed okay I was sold on a mock extreme spinner yep and now that the you know um El Toro Ryan presented the tea about Cedar Fair checking out the intimates and Wonderland's record was sniped from them in like a really low class way but you know that that was personal you know that Wonderland they're not gonna like Wonderland said they're all about records like when they were announcing Yukon like the vice president of Wonderland literally pulled me aside and he said Wonderland was all about those steel records like keyword steel so in my opinion yes it was just Backlot launch coaster that was stolen from them but you can't be Canada's premier park and not have the launch record or the tallest coaster or the longest coaster I think um first of all the whole launch thing can does only launch coaster you know with Backlot was it was always a joke and regardless of that record was stolen Backlot goes 64 kilometers an hour this other coaster that stole it goes like 75 um those numbers are laughable so Wonderland does need something like we records aside we need a good launch coaster that you know we need something that goes over 100 kilometers an hour and it's something I think we're gonna get very soon oh my bad I was like the clip of me on the ride was getting a little like I was getting dizzy that's not so intense it is um so I can see us just for if not any reason we need a launch roller coaster uh I think a lot of like you know all of our rides kind of do the same thing they have these lift hills they have these more or less drawn out elements you know or their headbangers like 80 of the roller coasters in the park but we don't have anything like jaw dropping you know yeah time warp where you fly but nobody that's a terrible ride so I think a launch coaster especially one like this a unique one would really do wonders at our park yeah a hundred percent I'm just nervous they're gonna go down the um there's there's three routes they could go down for Frontier Canada the mock extreme spinner or copperhead clone that's route number one okay that's the most likely route right now in my opinion okay most likely route because I I think the Intamin's creeping up on that like mock extreme spinner or um copperhead was always the most likely now the Intamin was is every every like day almost the more I think about it the more likely Intamin moves up so Intamin's likelihood number two third most likely option is a family launch coaster to end off Frontier Canada because you have minebuster you have Yukon striker and then they would build an Intamin or a mock like those jet ski or like ATV themed launch coasters terrified I don't I don't actually think so I think we need oh something caught in my eye I think we need like a more intense thrill ride if top fill dragsters Intamin can his run will be Intamin I agree Jake I already I already think it is Intamin working on top there's no ways I'm pearl I can't do no no no no now that the spike is in play yeah that's Intamin that's Intamin now watch it end up being like Gertzlauer it's like Gertzlauer is like you all fine or it's gonna be that Chinese knockoff it's gonna be B&M these Y trains it's got like a lift chain oh my god a chain assist yes okay history and leisure good point very good point actually thank you for countering me live because I am afraid guys I talk to him about this every day I'm so scared that Wonderland's like I don't know Pantheon's like a little too intense a little nervous about that but I'm also hoping that Wonderland missing that super intense ride is what Cedar Fair is looking at and it looks like Cedar Fair is the one making the decision now no whether which is a good thing of what our next coaster is no more B&M because if it was the people at the park currently they would literally go after this surf coaster I think and it would be so mediocre I don't care what anyone says if we got a launch surf coaster mediocre 100% that thing looks so like you would literally be like okay let's go ride Yukon okay let's go ride Behemoth okay let's go ride Leviathan okay let's go ride surf coaster okay all the same feeling all the same forces all the same everything we need we yeah we need like intimate intensity at this park I think that's why I liked Busch Gardens Williamsburg so much and I think that's why I also like Kings Island so much the diversity is insane 100% 100% um like that's the thing like that's what I was saying earlier you know Wonderland all the big rides they all pretty much do the same thing but at Busch Gardens they each do different things but are just as intense yes I agree Jackson that is a good point how can you theme a surf coaster to Canada though though they're running on the logs I've been thinking about that can you imagine a pre-show whoa guys in BC they run on logs oh my goodness oh okay my other fear though is the surf coaster is just one design now what what has happened is B&M has essentially said we can do launch coasters yeah that's that's the aspect I'm looking at that's what terrifies me so Wonderland would be like wait wait wait we were gonna order the mock spinner are we gonna order the Intamin but B&M you can do a launch you can do a launch sit down you know what though you know what though I think that's a good thing though because you know eventually B&M will hit the nail on the head right like if we could get the Fury 325 of launch sit downs I would be happy with that but that's never gonna happen you never know oh my god they do B&M's like you got the wear and tear like B&M's literally like the grandparents of coasters now I find Leviathan almost like the grandparents of coasters still kick the coasters I I look you like Apollo's cherry at more than I like Leviathan guys but don't tell Saria that you know what I thought I did too but but you know after seeing Leviathan halls he said it on the trip that he liked Apollo's Cherry at more at night in the front fully loaded trains I will say though that Leviathan is looking like it is hauling Leviathan is hauling okay cinnamon oh don't look at me for Florence don't be all up in my goods I think he knows like Wonderland doesn't really care about theming I think he knows um here was a B&M patent last year of a train that is similar to the intimate mock launch trains oh my god there was there was eating we had and then that we were told that Wonderland can essentially work with a specific manufacturer to build whatever they want yep it's literally gonna be like dodgy tree dodgy tree and slow inversion but they can do it I don't know maybe they can make it like old B&M I don't know like you know old B&M like Alpin guys that that brings it if it's a B&M Wonderland I'm gonna post that I'm never going to your park again but I will show up the very next day it's true you will like all enthusiasts um but wait action jacks that's not true they didn't turn the trim off that they the trim was on we heard it um and behemoth is doing the same the exact same testing and the trim is hitting hard um car crash hard on behemoth yeah the trim was on they do use the trims in training uh because the trims are a key part in ride testing that's a plc yeah you can't override that exactly if the computer system's on it's operating how it should B&M boat coaster that's him that's him um oh my god I don't know like the this is this is what surya and I really know and we're being truthful like we're we're being 100% truthful we know that a coaster is coming in 2025 okay if it if it's not then there's a really weird thing happening that wouldn't normally happen but we know that a coaster is coming in 2025 so fact one coaster 2025 that is a six-year gap of big coasters that is your average cedar fair gap for spending 30 million dollars the price tag and the area make it a large coaster okay hopefully that price tag could include a lot of theming and then we're looking at like a 15 I don't think we would do 15 million no not even knots does that I know but it's front to your Canada so it does scare me a little bit but okay so we're looking you know like worst-case scenario like a 20 million dollar coaster with really heavy heavy theming um but you're looking at like a 30 35 million dollar investment um so 2025 big price tag location we don't know we're assuming the location off of construction markings and this area has been heavily surveyed for what the last three to four years like even since before COVID before COVID this area has been constantly red taped distance markings survey markings distance markings were showed up last year and distance markings are for things that are swinging inverting going around whatever it's not for like a little they wouldn't use a distance marking for a family flying canoes right no it's for something like tundra twister or a coaster and even like just using process of elimination first of all what's areas in the park actually have space large enough to accommodate a 30 million dollar ride what areas in the park are so bare like that long walkway with nothing there where you know you need to put something there you need to put activities there for people to come and do yeah there's not too many areas in the park like that so we're giving you guys a lot of tea right now and I know we keep repeating this but this is literally what we know and this is why we're like we're literally like every day we're like but wait we left out this detail what if it's this like we don't know what kind of coaster it is we don't know the location but we know too it's either going to be world expo or frontier canada I'm sold on frontier canada personally because I don't think it's finished there's that there's a whole area that I can't see wonderland leaving um whitewater canyon area so underdeveloped and like falling apart into crepit I feel like they would want that they've been holding off on revitalizing revitalizing jolly phonics revitalizing the area for a large-scale attraction I also find it weird that action theater hasn't been developed yet but after a conversation we had with someone it seemed wonderland will not build a same attraction that is already built in canada that's what we were told yeah so we know a flying theater is coming I think that's exactly why action theater has been developed the guy who told me that action theater was going to be developed it literally is who told me x y and z was getting built and x y and z got built so um it's it's interesting like who are you think it's going to canada as well I think it's not here well I think there's only two areas something that size can go but yeah I think it's frontier canada first of all that area like back there by whitewater canyon there's not much going on back there like it's pretty barren even like you know where the water park is and then you have that long path where Yukon goes by with nothing there so I think that would be the perfect opportunity to put something there you know you would get that highway views which is something I'm sure wonderland would like like you can see it from the highway yeah um and that is like a busy area so you already have the foot traffic but again that's just like a through way right to go from the kidsville to the water park essentially yeah so there's juice here information too that no one notices remember when they built Yukon did you notice that they installed plumbing for what looks like a building is supposed to go somewhere yeah it looks like restroom plumbing um that comes up in the middle of just off to the path so again frontier canada in my opinion based off of what we've seen and the distance markings where they are right now is kind of where that plumbing is oh yeah so I think there's more buildings coming because there's going to be a large-scale attraction that goes back there we need it needs one more restaurant back there yeah so um I think a restroom would go exactly there though like just a little restroom because there wasn't it was just plumbing almost for it wasn't like restaurant plumbing but they got it ready for a reason um hopefully a drink stand there's literally there's a well not a drink stand yeah but there's like the restaurant you are so needy I need a drink stand a restaurant a restroom a washroom would be nice because I don't think wonderland has enough for those considering how busy the park is yeah there is that really big one though attached to that building but the rate across from where that is so it could end up being a restaurant plumbing or a drink stand plumbing um but it is definitely for something and there's a lot of those early frontier canada buildings that I think wonderland's going to build like the ice cream shop the crab cakes or whatever oh yeah like all those old frontier I think those are coming as well um but I think like I don't know I'm really excited guys like there's a reason I keep talking about 2025 I've been talking about 2025 before you passed on a little bit of tidbit to me like so basically what happened was like let's let's go into detail like let's give you guys all the tea I've been predicting 2025 for a while my sources were literally like Brennan 2024 it's gonna be a wooden coaster most likely um that's why you're not seeing anything don't worry we're hearing 2024 2024 2024 and I'm sitting here like it can't be 2024 there's no way it can be 2024 um and I was like I was really like they're saying 2024 but there's we would have seen something we would have seen something by now except for a wooden coaster so there's still the slight chance that there could be a wooden coaster in 2024 because construction starts pretty late yeah like in September so this September if we see construction back there then we're getting a GCI in 2024 but I've been very much like there's no way there's no way I think we're getting a steel coaster we're not getting a wooden coaster so we would have seen signs now more signs than typical for 2024 big steel coaster now you also have to insert cedar point caroans is now rumored to be getting a 2024 coaster and then dorney park dorney park yeah dorney park 2024 so by process of elimination wonderland doesn't fit into the budget for a 30 million dollar coaster so 2025 has been in my mind syria came up to me and was like well brennan I just got this little bit of information and the information is correct it's 100 correct it's there's there's no it's very oh we're not going to say the organization but they have a lot of they have a lot of pull and money and say so yeah and it aligns with 2025 so now we're 100 sold that 2025 is the year and for the first time ever my sources are incorrect which is true because this source that's the same 2024 is really good there's a reason that I knew about the frontier canada restaurant exactly going on firework hill people people were literally like they're not going to take up firework hill remember that people were still against that that information was down to a T correct yeah um so it it is weird if this guy gets it wrong that's why I'm like but now with this information we know it's 2025 we know a rough estimate the coast years make sense it's a six year gap from the big one um and it's finishing off frontier canada in my opinion 2024 also might finish off frontier canada flat ride wise in the same area over there with maybe a restaurant you know um 2024 is definitely going to be either like water park and flat ride or infrastructure and yeah water park is definitely the most likely for 2024 with a flat ride and especially now with like these hotter summers coming or supposed to be coming you know and with how busy the park is I think they're gonna need to bolster the water park a little bit more yes a hundred percent um yeah there's there's rumblings that pro side has a little meeting next week but yeah um there's a chance that zamperla could be the flat ride expansion like we could see what carolyn's got um i'm hoping that if cedar fair has the option that they would go down um the screaming swing I don't I don't think it's going to be five flat rides so like carolyn's got a whole little mini themed area where we would just need oh my voice it's the halls and I need more halls where we would just get like one flat ride if we got a scream this window that would be freaking awesome yeah action jacks you know it's funny action jacks I wonder because my source said wooden coaster what if 2024 is our wild beast refurbishment I really hope so I maybe like if king's dominion could actually hurry up and finish there as we could see what it looks like so I mean that'd be crazy if that's what he meant by or she or it meant by um but yeah April fools I'm excited I'm really excited wonderland's got a really bright future based off of attendance of the American parks like cedar fair is looking at wonderland to kind of counteract a lot of the declining attendance at the American parks and um yeah I think I think it is a good future and you know um you said it perfectly well you know what I was I was looking up last night on the live just for the fun of it park hours cedar fair park hours and wonderland has some of the best park hours in the cedar fair chain which wasn't always the case you know our hours are comparable now to like king's island and cedar point you know that was never the case so it's pretty cool that you know even cedar fair recognizes like you know what there is a lot of profit to be made at wonderland they are so busy we're going to give them the good hours versus other parks like king's dominion they have some of the worst hours you know doorney they don't even open until end of may so yeah I think there is a lot of potential for wonderland although winter fuss had a little decline in uh operating days what winter well you know what winter fuss is only a portion right like the summer is the bulk of yeah of cha-ching it's going to be interesting to see halloween haunt too how busy that is um tie gardener there's a chance like there it wouldn't be a coaster in 2024 and then a coaster in 2025 at most it would be like a renovation of a coaster the ride removal okay so there is a rumbling um this is to be taken with a grain of salt this is to be taken with a grain of salt like truthfully we're starting to hear rumblings that there's a ride removal happening this year they don't they didn't specify it was a coaster or a flat ride just to expect a ride removal um so yeah I mean there's stuff like you know we can all say what we want it to be I know reality what's it actually going to be without any information like where do you even begin like it could be dragonfire the bat wild beast mindbuster flight deck time warp speed city cliffhanger like riptide like holy crap it could be anything at that part it literally like we little guys we don't know like we're being truthful we don't know um but yeah with with world expo coming up on the timeline it would make sense to start seeing some ride removals but there are also drop towers are getting removed um whitewater canyons are getting removed at parks like extreme sky flyer those have been going to yeah so you can't even begin to guess which ride until you see something there's one ride at wonderland that has had a soil sample oh a soil sample um but I still don't even think that's anytime soon I don't get why they would remove it in attraction unless they had plans to fill it so like well I mean there was the sky rider thing but oh no I guess that got delayed it was supposed to be the next year right so um shall we end the podcast and go to our live hangout yeah that was uh there's 130 people in here right now yeah what are you doing on a saturday night you're watching two fatties talking about roller coasters two fatties that can't get what can't we get um we're single we're single oh item this is a hundred percent a true story it's gonna sound so unbelievable but he can vouch for it literally is a true story so we walk the edge of the parking lot at wonderland okay I never'd walk it this is what's weird like I never do the walk I'm walking with him we're across the street we're walking towards starbucks starbucks we're literally on the sidewalk across the street from the road I look on the ground and I see mocks logo like mock rides logo on the ground I'm like what the hell I pick it up and it's this cool thing it's a tag that blew off the rock I guess the track and blew across the street yeah that's and it's got mock commission blah blah blah art engineering unpacked oh my god Jake is my new favorite person he says we're not even that fat who said that can y'all can y'all follow suit where where's jake jake comment right there hypercoaster I think it's jake hypercoaster thank you thank you yep mm-hmm he can a hundred percent hang out with us he can join yes skinny legend we can eat now oh my god we don't have to don't have to find it anyway yes the guys we're not doing a hangout streamer going to get Chick-fil-A okay but I'm sorry I'm we're we have ADHD today yeah oh my goodness I think the wigs threw me off for the whole thing that's um so I thought this was cool lazy bear watch 29 days I know right um kiss tea it's in a different language I think that's why unpacked blah blah blah but for those of you that don't know um art engineering and mock work together that is why that's there nothing special it's not a new mock ride coming I wish I could use this as clickbait can you imagine that as a thumbnail guys extreme spinner confirmed giga extreme spinner imagine some other people um but yeah I thought that was cool since Syria abandoned you guys no no next week next week don't no no I'm abandoning you guys next two weeks London it's gonna be two weeks I'm not gonna be on for two Saturdays well I hope crega can fill in guys you aren't gonna learn anything over the next two weeks from crega crega's gonna be like what's a mock he's just gonna be staring in his face while Brandon is like um I'm do something I'm gonna have to really dive into my sources to get tea for the podcast guys I have crega I love crega by the way I'm not this isn't yet even though he abandoned us for his grandma I'm gonna try and join in I'm not try I am gonna join in on the live and how when I can when I'm running between no but like how am I gonna no no like in the comments oh okay okay okay so I can at least still watch and say yes so I will try and get crega on um and then you know maybe I'll even reach out to another park and see if I can get one of their people on yeah maybe I'll do something like that wholesomeness yeah crega crega's a crega's an interesting person quality no he's crega's coming back to the channel so we're doing something cool with the park um mid april yeah mid april um for a really cool video and yeah crega's gonna be a part of that so he's back don't worry you guys can calm down there will not be kahoot tonight because I had no time to set it up I literally wasn't thinking like we got back from vacation and because it's Easter and the job I work at I literally had to work five days like like literally like boom boom boom work and then I'm like in between work I'm like flying the drone you know tundra twister um so maybe I'll do kahoot like if I can't find anyone that'd be cool and then I can still play drop tower is so great it is great I like drop tower better than the s and s towers because the s and s towers feel more controlled yeah um all right uh are there any patreon leslie you're perfectly just how you are oh oh thank you for me for me other people saw it that way yeah um but thank you oh my god y'all are being way too nice right now I'm gonna cancel my therapy appointment next week I don't need it anymore okay so we're gonna end this we're gonna go pee yes we're gonna get some fluids in us and maybe a little snack oh what it looks like I'm gonna be back in like five minutes yes okay hang out stream um wow there were a lot of people tonight so thank you have a good one guys bye see you in three weeks five minutes no for the podcast oh yes the hang out stream yes but yes okay okay for the podcast don't yell at me oh my god florence I will go flat in your tires like they did at wonderland's parking lot multiple times I actually don't want to do that because then you'll be stuck here and then I have to deal with you I'm gonna have to like you're gonna feed me oh my god that's expensive okay but okay


Let's get across what's moving in bond markets now we're live with Simon Michelle from big securities and Simon Aussie year it's looking pretty steady at the moment. Yeah Aussie is pretty steady not a lot of movement maybe a basis point or so but pretty much where they finished the week last week at this stage Dan. Now let's talk through what's happening in the US as well obviously very interesting comments I guess from a first impressions basis your reaction to chair Yellen Yeah look it's interesting I think you know she's still very much staying on message that you know that the market should expect the US Fed to move this year begin moving their Fed funds rate back up she's had to do that because the expectation has drifted into possibly as latest next year 2016 that we might see that move so look I think she's saying a message she says you know she still wants to see a little bit of further strengthening in the economy definitely in that labor market but she says that they're still on on course for a 2016 2015 I should say increase in the Fed funds rate at this stage 62 percent of investors in a recent survey believed that the Fed will move this year that's up from about 56 percent about a week ago so we are getting to a point where you know the market's sort of suggesting that it might not be until next year and the Fed is staying very much on message that the market should expect at this year and chair Yellen says she does expect the US economy will continue to improve where do you think the Fed is looking for signs of improvement is it just in the labor market I think that's predominantly there I think obviously they want to monitor this US dollar as well they certainly don't want to see that get up too high that certainly already had a bit of an impact on economic growth we've seen some slowdown in that I think inflation is another area they'll be focused on as well that's inflation expectations have fallen back a little bit in recent times so most of the data and the news we've been getting out of the US has been a little bit on the softer side I think that the Yellen's comments on Friday certainly suggest that she wants to keep the momentum going and she's happy to look through that softer data in the short term and look at the longer strength of the economy with a you know focus on that employment level could she have said anything more do you think well there's going to be very difficult we are getting a lot more volatile in the long end of the US curve at the moment we've seen that with the yields moving up quite substantially about two weeks ago they've fallen back down a little bit we're certainly seeing demand for US treasuries as those yields have increased a little bit it's going to be a lot more volatile as we drift closer to that expected move by the US Fed so I think it's not surprising that you see Yellen staying on message and trying not to upset that expectation that investors have out in the market let's touch on some of the other factors that are influencing your thinking at the moment of course Greece very much still in the spotlight it's got a large payment to the IMF coming up very shortly yes it does Dan it's got about 1.6 billion euros next month and it's suggested that it it won't be able to honor those payments now you know we've seen this occur time and time again in recent times but you know I think the Greek government is certainly pushing for some revision to the austerity measures that they've had to implement a little bit of push back there you know I think it's certainly the focus of the markets every you know with the stimulus we're seeing in Europe you know the the markets looking for any level of uncertainty and and Greece is certainly providing that but they're certainly not building in a huge expectation that's likely to cause any major instability to markets in the short term all right Simon we'll leave it there always appreciate it thanks again thank you Dan


We have got ourselves a fun snake draft lined up for week number 10 because we've got some good games on the slate We got a lot of good running backs on the slate some solid wide receivers. There is a lot to break down We're gonna go through a snake draft live on air and then take your questions to get you said Well, what should be a delightful Sunday in the NFL? Welcome on into the snake draft live here on the fan dual YouTube twitch Facebook and Twitter channels My name is Jim Sonnis. I am a senior writer and analyst for number fire.com joined here as always by Brandon Godula and JJ Zacharyson JJ, of course is the editor-in-chief of number fired fatal the host of the late round podcast JJ week 10 is shaping up to be a dandy. How are you doing today? Week 10 looks pretty insane It's kind of tough, especially from like a salary cap standpoint to really like know what I haven't dug in enough on the salary cap Side as much as you guys have I do want to say though last week. Okay Last week with our snake draft. I was looking so good after the early games like so good I thought I was a lock to win and then I stacked the and it was it was a regret Like I regretted the the moves to some degree like right after I made the picks and you know We talked about it on the show but I had the Tyreek Mahomes stack and I brought it back with Aaron Jones and it it did absolutely Nothing and I lost because of that never again Patrick Mahomes But what that did was maintain the pattern the pattern is that JJ me Brandon I won last week which means that Brandon Godula managing editor of number fire comm You're guaranteed to win this week bud. So like you know congrats in advance. I guess Boy, I wish it was as simple as that this week is Loaded with great picks from top to bottom. I don't think there's a whole lot of leverage from any particular draft position Today so I mean it always comes down to this like you know with with JJ and the the Mahomes Tyreek stack like good plays don't always work out So it's gonna come down to just which of these amazing plays actually pan out, but you know I wish it was kind of a guarantee, but it doesn't really feel that way because These these lineups should put up points this week Yep, they should and it's going to be a delight The way things work if you have not watched a snake trap before is we will do a snake draft live on air between the three of Us and see who comes out on top talk about our line as quickly and then take your questions No matter where you're watching we can take questions from Facebook YouTube Twitch or Twitter get those questions in now We'll circle back to them later on after do the snake trap to get you set for this week But first before we get into the snake trap. I didn't want to talk broadly About this slate because JJ Brandon and I had a chance to talk yesterday on the heat check about our favorite plays And I think one of the bigger dilemmas is the value plays are great We like the value plays for sure But it's I'm conflicting how to prioritize the high salaried running backs in the salary cap format We've got Najee Harris Jonathan Taylor We got Christian McCaffrey back a likely a full workload this week got Eckler down the cook is there as well And all those guys great out well It's tough for salary cap, but those are the guys were deciding on first in the snake draft So what's your view of the top end of the running back pool for this week? Yeah, I mean so It's kind of hard for me to not put Jonathan Taylor 101 right now given what he's doing And the the nice part about Taylor is you know if you look at his splits with Naheem Hines because Naheem Hines is always the guy that you have to worry about in that back field If you look at his splits with Naheem Hines It's not the correlation is there for when Indianapolis does well or is a favorite or wins the game Jonathan Taylor not only just performs better because of positive game scripts But he's also running more routes in that back field Because Indianapolis isn't throwing their their third down back onto the field and we've seen that but you know part of the reason why Taylor has blown up the way he has over the last month and a half two months is because Indianapolis started out So cold and they weren't playing very well But then they started playing a lot better as a team and as a unit and that is huge and massive for Jonathan Taylor and then you associate that at home massive massive favorites beatable defense I It's just hard for me to not love Jonathan Taylor And I think that if you want to utilize and use The fact that Taylor has shown that crazy crazy ceiling a little bit more than Najee Harris has I think that that can be utilized as the tiebreaker between those two guys because I have Harris second And then you know, I don't think Christian McCaffrey is the lock as the RB three I think it's you can make the argument for sure But I do think that Dalvin and Austin Eckler because of the game environment there. I think that they're right there with Christian McCaffrey I think those are the top five and just like raw output You know the way you would view them. It's not like the you know cost savings is like so so dramatic But that's that's that's who my top five are for sure I think that yeah, you know, I can understand if someone sees McCaffrey as like the clear 103 But I really do like Austin Eckler and Dalvin Cook both good matchups in a game that could shoot out I just think there's a little bit a little bit more upside than what we're gonna see from CMC Yeah, I think that that's the key for me when I decided to rank Najee first for cash games Taylor first for tournaments was that upside because the way to do the routes generating upside are yardage and touchdowns Both those have favored Taylor for the most part this year. I think that I'd agree that for for tournaments I want JT. Let's talk to Brandon here The value plays have crystallized more it is now confirmed that Nick Chubb and metric Felton will not play for this week So we know the dearness Johnson will be there looks like Alva Camara is gonna sit as well Which puts mark Ingram in the discussion James Conner at seven thousand might have Kyler Murray now He's a game-time call which is better than I thought it might be so that's an encouraging thing to Brandon Connor seven thousand dearness is fifty four two dollars Ingram is fifty five for a salary cap format Where do you lean between those three? I'm gonna put dearness Johnson number one pretty easily for me when we saw him in week seven get the start Just really good data for him good production 146 rushing yards on his 22 carries 69 9 snap rate 44 route rate with two targets and that was with Felton playing who's more of the receiving back So I think that he's the clear Atop value back of the week And then as for the other two, I think I'm still going to go with James Conner over mark Ingram We did see Ingram I get five targets last week. So he's got seven targets in two games With the Saints we've seen him kind of churn out like a 30 40 snap rate Even with Alvin Camara playing So we know that he's got somewhat of a role before Camara got hurt so It's not like we're just projecting him to take on some role that we haven't seen from him right that being said It's really hard to go away from James Conner based on what we saw from him last week They were throwing him design screens, which could go away If they get kind of right back, but Murray's not going to be a hundred percent So maybe they just keep going to him and you know, we talked about this yesterday and in Monday with James Conner not historically the biggest like Film fan of James Conner, but the way he looked last week Really hard to knock that so I'm going to rank them Johnson Conner In Ingram for me, but all are very much in play I would do the same and I'd also say that all three are at least Considerations to the snake draft if we get to you know, nine running backs I could see them being inside the top nine might not get there, but there are these considerations for sure So let's do it. Let's get into the snake draft here for week number 10 JJ Get yourself entered and let's get this puppy underway. I got the 101 Okay Brandon with the You know, it's funny. We you know, we we've gone in this order of me, Jim, then Brandon winning And I think all three of us agreed that the best spot was probably the 103 in this draft because you're Maybe Brandon Brandon seems to disagree, but he got the 103 in this draft See Brandon retroactively will change the argument to be the one that he got was the worst one So like no, no, no, no, I want to say this Absolutely. Absolutely. Why would I Jonathan Taylor, Najee Harris are a tier above everybody else this week I think there are a lot of other running backs in the conversation for the 103 but I think that every one of us would say That the one of the first two picks are in their own tier this week Well, number fire disagrees because they've got McCaffrey above Jonathan Taylor from a projection perspective and Guess what? Guess what? Uh-oh. I'm I'm still going Jonathan Taylor Like Dearness Johnson 1.01 There we go. Okay. So he goes JT which means I'll take Najee Was it pretty definitive for you JJ to go JT over Najee there? Yeah, I want some I want some ceiling Najee's apparently not on the injury report, but he was banged up yesterday. Um, yeah, I just The Steelers scare me offensively. Uh, they're just not great And that that can also be used as a tiebreaker. I just think Taylor's in a better spot Okay, so brand you've got three and four. What you thinking here? Um, I think I'm just I think I'm just gonna go with the game stack Okay, this feels it feels so wrong passing on Christian McCaffrey based on what we saw from him last week right I Jeez, I'm I feel like I'm gonna regret clicking on Austin Eckler here So I'm gonna I'm gonna let the clock bleed out and Do the coin flip in my head and see which one I really want but yeah feeling out, you know I think I I think I can't pass up the game stack appeal Uh here, so I'm gonna go with Eckler. That's what I would have done And honestly It puts me in a tight spot because I'm deciding do I go with Christian McCaffrey to Vonte Adams and I think that's an actual conversation where I could go Realistically with either one pretty sure Rogers will get cleared So I'm not really worried about that But I think I need to go McCaffrey here just because the workload I hate that offense so much But I think I had to go McCaffrey there. It was it was a tough one though I Think Jim bow cut out a little bit there. So I went with there. There we go. You're back Oh All right, I went with Devonte Adams with the next pick You had Jim taking Christian McCaffrey. I went Devonte Adams with the next one I think that was relatively obvious now. I'm between two running backs, but I am going to go with Zeke with my next pick Who's in a good spot huge implied team total for That dallas cowboys offense this week And you can't really go wrong with with elliott and his his ground game workload. Jim ends up getting mike evans. Jim, you back Yeah, I was able to pick mike evans. My other computer's internet's been fine Whatever isn't the the one that I'm on over here is the one that bugged out, but I was able to All right, we're losing we're losing Jim I Feel like I'm going to take the workload here with james connor As my flex here, I feel really good with the three running backs I get and then with rustle wilson back presumably 100 near 100% I'm going to try to buy some time for jim here with grinding out the clock. All right, you're good. Okay Dk met calf didn't practice on thursday, but that seems like it was by design so I pretty Locked into met calf here Okay, so you went with connor and met calf which means I'm left potentially looking at a wide receiver Um Or I could go deandre swift actually I just got swift with no jim all williams. We'll do that That's surprising. I didn't think you'd be that high on him based on the I know that I know in the salary cap format It's a bit different, but I mean his salary is low It's also but it's really hard right now a wide receiver and I'm in a position where I have to take one next But here's where I'm going first. I am taking Leonard for net with my next pick at the right position and then I I don't really know what to do a wide receiver right now um I might honestly do what we were talking about a little bit briefly Before the show because I did I did get zeke. Yes I did get zeke And quarter of a receiver in this I'm going to stack that so I'm going to go with quarter old Patterson as a receiver in this form Okay. Okay. I like that. Um So I've got a lot of bad offenses here, which is disappointing But let's add one more And go down with the deontay johnson and just get the 17 targets that he is bound to get Means I have two stealers which is never a great feeling but also it means I'm getting You know 20 carries and probably 25 combined targets I'll take that for sure Onto brandon, what you thinking here? Uh, kind of surprised. I thought you guys might go for a DAC Yeah, I considered it. I think the separation is pretty minimal. That's the reason that I didn't I think there are three quarterbacks. I love and I'll take any of them So you had deontay way above like a g a brown justin jefferson cd lamb Not way above but like I think but relatively I felt better about him. Yeah, just because like the target force You have three quarterbacks. Is there is there not four? Uh, no I'll go josh allen I really wanted to go herbert. Yeah, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go her I have I have absolutely no stacking in this I don't think I do. Oh, no, I guess I have nausea deontay and swift.  Yeah, that's bad.   I'm gonna ignore my team here briefly and go to jj's first You didn't go justin herbert there. You mentioned not a lot of correlation You do get the the zeke cordial stack and I think that one especially the cordial being a wide receiver in snake draft He's running back on the the salary cap, but being a receiver in the snake draft I think that made that a pretty easy decision, honestly That's good to hear because I I didn't know I mean I just feel like at the wide receiver position part of the reason I went devonte and that you were thinking about going devonte is I think that he's Just such a safe and obvious option at the 101 for at the wide receiver position Uh, and then there's just this like giant cluster in my opinion I mean you can go at least a lot of different directions and you wouldn't be shocked if You know a cd lamb outscores of mike evans or if a aj brown has a big game You know, you just wouldn't be that surprised if that happens Um, and so I didn't really know what direction to go with wide receiver So I just decided to game stack and get at least some correlation, which is why I went paterson there Uh, and then the for net pick, you know, I know that it it might not have been Uh, the chalkiest pick whenever I took him there But I wanted three running backs given the way this slate sort of breaks down And you know tampa bays has a high implied team total, you know, chris godwin might not play it wouldn't be shocking if we see Um, you know them at least down by the goal line, especially Go with a little bit more of a run heavy approach than they typically do if godwin is indeed out So I think for net is still in a decent spot Uh this week despite the fact that you know, it does, you know, the matchup does dictate a more pass heavy approach I actually like that game a lot though. I mean, oh, yeah, both teams can't stop the pass You know, I could see a lot of throws in that game And I could see the overhead. So I really just just went for the the environment for for net above all else Yeah, and I think that For nets rule is really good. He gets targets too. So maybe he gets a one or two extra With godwin being banged up and brown and grog out. So I think that grades out pretty well there The paterson one gets you four running backs in a three person format. I think that's tremendous I think that's opt. Yeah personally. Let's go to branded here. You did get dak and stacked in the cd lamp like that for sure Uh thoughts on your lineup here. You also the lot the game stack for the chargers and vikings Yeah, um Even in a three person draft, you still want that correlation whenever you can get it So that ultimately is why I went with echelor over christin mccaffrey um So, you know, I I had taylor one nodgy two From there it was, you know between the three running backs that we were discussing So I was yeah fairly easy overall Um, but then I I felt confident enough with james connor's role Um within this offense to take him um as my third pick Um, and then I was kind of surprised. I had dak higher than it sounds like he guys did I thought jj was considering dak. I should have in hindsight. I should have. Yeah Um, I think it was the the easiest sort of quarterback to stack in this snake draft format because he had cd lamp along with him So I feel really good there and dk metcalf. I know the projection's not That high but his role is awesome russ has been awesome when he's healthy and the reports sound like russ is very close to 100 percent, so um, I really feel good with this this team and I know the projections low, but It is my turn to win and I feel like this This team has this team has the the potential just to to win this week When you pop a 40 burger from dk on sunday, like it's gonna be game over man Like it's just it's there's no point. So I think that will work out pretty well for you as far as mine I hate my team because like It's just so many bad offenses, which is so like counter-ethetical to my process I know it's it's it's less of a sin in like a three-person format I understand that but you can't stop me from self-loathing. So Stop trying. I'll just put it that way. I think with you with the guys I mean like it's gonna be a lot of usage. I think with the ante. I don't regret that one I think that one. I think I made the right choice there Swift maybe I should have gone, you know with dearness johnson potentially instead But like I don't know it was gross fine with it either way Um, I will see how plays out again. Brandon's guaranteed to win. So what's the point sounds like sounds like me talking about my teams usually I mean, yeah I well again, I don't get to win for two more weeks like I can be negative here For what it's worth my top nine running backs because I think there was I think that there was like a Some iffy-ness towards the bottom, but my top nine running backs ended up being the nine running backs that were drafted Okay, so that's interesting because I didn't I wouldn't have put for net in that top nine because I was trying to listed out trying because you said you had Top nine I was trying to figure out what the top nine were But like I think it makes sense. I just for some reason my mind didn't really think of him in that moment Yeah, I mean, I think it's fair. Uh, I actually I I think for net is sort of in like the connor tier Like I I you know, I I think that I think that connor you still run the risk of Them utilizing, you know, benjamin more than we expect. I'm not saying that that's like the probable outcome But it's a possible outcome. Oh, yeah Where last last week we just saw connor see the field as much as he did because They didn't want to just give the rock to a third string running back that hadn't seen many reps, right? Yeah, um, so I think that there's at least some risk there for net's just sort of like a Solid play, you know, he's not like super sexy and you know, they should score a lot of points That's that's why I had off here. Yeah, yeah, sure Were you saying brandon? I I feel like jim would classify letter for net as sexy though He's like he's like lennie's biggest fan. Yeah, that's true. Yeah Sunday afternoon lennie. Let's ride. Uh, okay, let's go to our questions here Once again, you can get your questions in no matter where you're watching youtube twitch facebook or twitter We'll take them from all places grim fan is saying my internet's bad. Uh, must be comcast or dial up It's air b&b wi-fi. I'm in seattle for a wedding. So, uh, we'll blame it on the uh, the air b&b here I would never throw my beautiful Verizon bios under, uh, the truck here Let's talk to tenantha. Who would you drop and have ppr in order to activate michael gallup? Okay, jj We drop in latavius pat fryer mooth or elijah moor here not pat fryer mooth, uh Probably not elijah moor because i'm gonna just see if that upside sticks You know, I didn't love we talked about this on the waiver wire show jim But I didn't you know, I wasn't like in love with elijah moor's usage this past week I think that his production far outweighed that usage But I still want to see if they utilize him more and if he can build off of it Latavius murray isn't gonna be any sort of league winner I mean divante freeman's actually looked pretty decent in relief of latavius over the last few weeks. So Um, you know, I wouldn't be shocked if like freeman's the 1a when latavius comes back even So I would drop latavius if you can after they already played Their ground game has been getting a lot better recently And I think that that could influence things to where they just stick with divante if it's finally working You know stick with the guy that's got you there Joseph says he played micah sicky last night's when he's upside Devin singletary's in this one. Um Moss might play I will say that he's questionable. I think he did practice yesterday and today So that one might happen. Uh remandray is probably not going to play either Tyler johnson without godwin. He actually might play too. So joseph you've broken Like I think it broke bad for you on the injury report today, man. Like you had a rough day. I'm sorry. Um What about brandon bolden would If he's available, would you put him over? I'd play I'd play beasley over Over like let's assume. Let's just assume because there's a lot of assumptions being made here, right? Yeah, zack ma let's assume that zack moss plays. I think zack moss is actually trending because he was he was like Like he's like progressing through the protocol properly. Let's assume that zack moss plays Let's assume the new england patriots running max don't play and then let's assume that and Who was the other one wasn't there one more? Oh, let's just tell her johnson Let's assume that godwin doesn't play because he hasn't practiced. So I think he was like limited today Uh, I would probably just play beasley then in that case. Yeah, I mean because beasley projects for Like seven and a half a targets whereas johnson's probably six and a half to seven So I'd probably take beasley there too. I'd agree upside. Maybe cool beasley Sorry, sorry joseph you had a rough day today for injury reports. Uh apologies jack Love the avatar still jack. Uh, who would you rather roster cadarius tony rondale more jimel ag Too high draft picks in the NFL draft this year and then a guy who was a defensive back 12 months ago Brandon, who do you prefer there for the rest of the year? I'd go cadarius tony there. Uh, he has the best chance of being uh, his team's top option I love rondo more there. There's kind of some buzz that he might be like the chase edmund's replacement, but Uh, he's got a lot. He's got a lot of uh competition there. So it's it's tony for me pretty easily I'm gonna stick with your Brandon here. Um, does buffalo actually show up this week against the jets? Also, if moss is out it's singletary good play worse than moss is gonna play but hypothetically Let's say that he sits. How would you view singletary and the bill's offense? Um, so the bills are a bit Kind of overrated. Um, they have a lot of a lot of easy wins. Um Their offense is overperformed a good bit based on expectation So i'm not saying that they're gonna struggle. I do like the jets plus the points this week Um, they should bounce back to some degree because it can't quite be as bad as it was last week So I think they show up and where it's moving it's moving in our favor I think they show from that standpoint. But yeah, even if moss is out, um Again, like this is a this is a key distinction If you need to have a singletarian season long absolutely play him I'm in that situation. Uh, but when it comes to dfs We just talked about all these great running backs this week I don't think devon singletary really moves the needle uh from a salary cap format this week He'd be behind uh, if you have mine angriom, I know that we talk about johnson and connor mostly But he'd be behind angriom as well. Uh, dj Would you stack big ben with the ante johnson and pat fryer mooth or brady and evans? If this is a one to one I go evans and brady by a significant march I will say though that I think brady does get a little bit downgraded with if godwin sits because you look at the guys brady has been most efficient throwing to this year It has been antonio brown chris godwin mike evans robroom kowsky. He may be out three of those guys so I would still consider tom brady for a salary cap format But I think that that is actually a downgrade for him as well Let's talk to grim fan. What kind of value did you earn us johnson? James connor mark angriom and michael gallup had this week and started to sit uh, Courtland Sutton this week brandon and we talked about everyone there outside of michael gallup So I assume he answers this question for grim fan, but what about gallup for you brandon? Are you considering gallup at $5,500 this week? uh, yeah From a from a dfs standpoint absolutely just because we need value at receiver anything we can really get And it sounds like if if godwin might play then we lose tyer johnson So there's not a whole lot of $5,000 receivers on fandal that we can Look at and as for start sit questions I do publish the starts at column on number fire that goes through ranges of outcomes of each player And their odds for for sutton's case to be a top 24 receiver this week. He's in that mid tier. He's like a consider If needed This week the the broncos ran a pretty good spot against the eagles so long as the eagles don't drain the clock too much but I don't think courtland sutton is a is a clear sit just because his market share has been a bit down But again that that article just goes through like basically every relevant player and you can kind of compare your options from there And at this time of year I mean sutton's rule is good enough to to be in that consideration So check out numberfire.com to get brandon's full breakdown of who you'd be considering sutton versus for this week Okay, jg who we stream in here between mac jones trevor lorence baker mayfield Mike white against the best defensive football or pj walker and a must win week. Who you going with there? I mean, I don't really love this at all. Okay.  I see that parentheses that you Uh, you you might be able to get matt ryan He he would be he would be my choice if you're able to get matt ryan otherwise Do you guys I I know you go matt ryan there? I just it's funny because I like matt ryan a lot He's been amazing, but I feel like jim wanted to like keep that quiet Oh, no, I just didn't read that part. Sorry Okay, I don't inside parentheticals because I need to get through them fast. So I just Matt ryan matt ryan is the best play of that group, but I think if you can't get matt ryan, I would probably I'd probably go trevor lorence. I think I don't mac or trevor lorence. I think yeah I don't feel that great about it But I kind of I don't like the cleveland new england game very much I think the under hits in that game and I you know, there's the chance that we just see you know We're we're likely to see a negative game square for jacksonville That's not always a good thing for quarterbacks. I'm not saying that but maybe we see indoors lorence. Yeah, we really might see a little Their past events been terrible this year Right, we might see a little bit more scrambling from from teal off if they're able to to get that negative game script So yeah, I'd go lorence. I don't feel that great about it though I think I would say the same. Okay, the chosen rose over on youtube for you brandon Manual standards hunter renfro jerry judy tim patrick or christian kirk. Who would you rank highest among that group? Manny, I feel like has to be number one, right? I'd say jerry judy number one, but incy judy. Wow. Okay Reading it was well, it's start two But my answer was judy and manny judy has a great role whenever he's healthy Um carved out the the best workload since his two games in his two games since return week one They peppered him uh his first game back. They just threw it to everyone barely three to four targets for that entire team But judy, uh for sure is my number one and then followed by a manual sanders hundred air yards per game The past two games coming out of the by just 35 receiving yards per game Lots of opportunity that should probably pay off this week against the jets I do think christian kirk's a decent option this week not I wouldn't put it above judy or sanders But like with hopkins trending towards likely being out again and kyler potentially playing kirk is very much in play But I put sanders and judy above him. I don't even mind ren fro in a season long format either You know, I think that he's fine too. But yeah, I agree manny and judy would be the two Okay, let's go here uh to kyle looking for some value at wide receiver. Do you like marvin jones for $5,900 We talked a bit about marvin jones on thursday brandon in the sense that We're okay with going at some jags here specifically dan arnold for most part But I think that jones Despite the fact he's been out targeted by arnold and agnew. I still think that there's like a path to a ceiling there I'd rather get above him to like judy and guys like that. But what are your thoughts of marvin jones here? Yeah, I would play marvin jones on fandal within game stacks If you're playing jonathan taylor, um, maybe you like that game a little bit weird Like to get a little bit weird you play michael pittman and marvin jones. I think that's in play Um, but yeah, marvin jones still has some upside and I talked about that game more in detail on the heat check this week in terms of pace and There might be some concerns that the the colts play from ahead and just grind clock But that's not really how they've played um even with a lead in the first half They're still pretty pass heavy about league average. Um, they're slow overall But they really get slower and more run heavy late in the game. So yeah, and then we actually see jackson bill Pretty fast and pretty pass heavy. So I feel pretty good with that one But he's not the kind of play I would play in like a one-off situation I would want some colts in that game to make sure that um, there's enough to go around for marvin jones I'd agree with that as well. Okay. JJ Shake and bake one four five wants to know do we play dearness johnson over marie cooper and daryl henderson? I think this is a really interesting question because it's not a slam dunk. Uh, what do you view in here? I think you got to play henderson uh against san francisco on monday night. Uh, it's a decent matchup He uh, you know, he'll likely see the way that I sort of look look at this kind of stuff too If you're comparing running back to running back think about the the kind of workload In terms of a backfield share and target share these running backs are going to see Which I would probably argue that johnson and henderson Project for pretty similar backfield shares this week just in terms of running back rush share and target share Um, and then associate that with the offense they're playing in and the rams have a better implied team total And they're just sitting a better spot than what the browns do so I would go henderson over dearness johnson I think you can make the argument for dearness over amari cooper if you want a floor type play But if it's a full ppr league like i'm seeing here, I do think amari's probably still to play But I I say that regre- uh, you know without a lot of confidence because uh, we don't know exactly what these target shares are going to look like With michael gallup back. I mean it it could be a little bit different So I do think that dearness johnson is a safer play Than amari, but i'm looking sort of at the floor ceiling combo there the fact that it's a ppr format I'd probably still go amari I mean I I would still try to find a way though to get dearness johnson in your lineup Just get all three in there if you can bench someone else Like yeah, I don't know figure it out. I think you can let's try to make that one work for sure Uh grim fan. Do you like to see the packers defense this week? I do not because I think russ is going to cook I think dk mech app is going to go nuts So I don't personally. I know that they're lower salary, but I can't quite get there Andrew wants to know if cam will play this week Uh sounds like he's probably not going to based on what matt rule said They're like they might have a package, but like pretty limited So I would not be going there or I would wouldn't expect him to play too much this week DJ considering they used the steers last week DJ. I almost let you astray again. I don't like you trusting me Um took the colts this week thoughts. I think that works. I feel like you know 10 and a half point favorites The jags are kind of feisty, you know, they can they can uh, it's not a slam dunk But I think that one's fine. I don't love the games, but good No, I don't love the visual games for survivors, but that's the only kind of knock I have there Yeah, and the jags are like they're trying that's good Kyle any chance that johnny smith actually gets carries this week? Uh, yes I think so. Um, I don't think that was like I was just gonna say it's one of those situations where like yes, he could and probably will But like it's not it's not super actionable You know, I think that oftentimes fantasy managers like see headlines like that and they see Coaches talk about that and they're like, oh, I gotta throw him into my lineup But like yeah, like sure. Maybe it works out. Well, you know anything can happen But uh, it would be shocking if johnny sees more than like, I mean how many how many backfield touches Do you think he'll see like five 13? 13 because because of bella check johnny or travis kelsey Johnny or george kill, where are we going? You know, I think that that's the the realm we're talking about here Okay, that is all that we have here for today on the week 10 Snakedraft as always make sure you are subscribed on the fangirl youtube twitch facebook or twitter pages We are live here each and every week day at 4 p.m Getting you set for either nba on wednesdays or nfl each and every other day You can follow these guys on twitter at kudula 13 for brandon and follow jj on twitter at late round qb Uh, brandon, I appreciate it. Good luck to you this week, and I'll talk to you once again on monday Yeah, gonna be a good winter recap on day morning first thing It will be a fun one for sure jj appreciate the time for you as well. Talk to you once again next week See, I have a fun wedding I will i'm gonna it's gonna be a lot of fun We want to thank all of you as well for tuning in here to the snakedraft and sending in your good questions as well Good luck to you week 10 of the main slate brandon, and I'll be back with you on monday To wrap it all up and recap the big takeaways from what should be a fun week at dfs But until then good luck. We'll talk to you once again on monday. This has been the fan dual live q&a


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