regular session to order. Uh let's go ahead and start with roll call please. Mayor Bagley, of course here. I am here. Councilmember Christensen. Here. Councilmember Douglefairing. Here. Councilmember Martin. Here. Councilmember Peck. Here. Mayor Pro Tem Rodriguez. Here. Councilmember Waters. Here. Mayor Yovakorm. All right, great. Let's start with the pledge. Um, what lucky soul this evening. Marsha, you looked up.   Everybody's and everybody has turned their mute off. Okay.  Here we go. All right, go ahead. Go ahead. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. We're getting used to reading mouths now though. Yeah. Thanks Marsha. All right, a quick reminder to the public. Anyone wishing to provide public comment during the public invited to be heard, you've got to go and do this. Dial that number, enter the meeting ID, and then press pound. And then you will be admitted to the room according to the last four numbers of your, or four digits of your phone number. So listen to the live stream and we'll call on you according to who comes in first. All right, can I have my agenda back? Okay. Next approval of minutes. Can we have a motion to approve the November 10th, 2020 regular session minutes, please? So moved. Moved by Councilmember Christensen and seconded by Councilmember Waters. All in favor of approval of the November 10th, 2020 minutes. Say aye. Aye. Opposed, say nay. All right. The motion carries. Can we have a motion to pass the regular session minutes of November 17th, 2020? So moved. I'll second that. It was moved by Dr. Waters, seconded by myself. All in favor of the approval of the November 17th, 2020 regular session minutes. Say aye. Aye. Opposed, say nay. All right. That motion carries unanimously. Let's go on to agenda revisions and submission of documents and motions to direct the city manager to add agenda items to future agendas. Before we talk about the Weld County issue, is there anything else? Mayor, I just wanted to note that staff has pulled items nine and 12D. Both are the Longmont Housing Authority items. Those will be brought back later. And Harold just wanted to tell you why. I'm here, Council. Yesterday we had some conversations with Jim and our financial group. And based on what we learned is if we brought it in at this point in December, even if even that it was only one month, it would have meant that we would have had to bring all of their financials into our CAFR next year. And so in order to keep things aligned, we want to bring that on on July 5th and turn that study session into a regular session for this conversation. So that then what that means for us, the financials come onto the CAFR in 2022, not 2021, which would create an insane amount of work to bring that in now. Is that correct, Jim? Yeah, I want to correct. You said July 5th. You meant January. January 5th. Sorry, January 5th. And by bringing them in now would bring them into the 2020 CAFR. And we're just not prepared to be able to take that on. It's a very big impact. And we really don't have enough experience with their financials to feel confident to bring those in this year. Councilmember Martin, your hand was up. Oh, I was going to point out the July versus January thing too. Okay, all right. Dr. Waters. I guess this would be to Jim. Should we assume then that as an LHA, now put my LHA up back on, that LHA would probably work at it through you, but what we would arrange for an audit of financials for LHA independently of the city and contract that service? That's correct. That just is in the past, but we would be working with it. And then ultimately the council would be able to have a chance to review the results of that audit. Sure. All right, thanks. If the council would be the board and review the audit, but it won't be incorporated into our CAFR as an ancillary organization. What's the technical term, Jim? Component unit. The component unit. Okay, great. Anything else other than the World Count, World Counting issue? All right. So the reason I wanted to move this from the bottom of the agenda up to here, I want to explain what the hell happened. So my council members are kind of up to speed. And then I also first and foremost, I wanted to take action to put something on the agenda so we could discuss what's happening. Okay. So first and foremost, it's no secret that when I was first told that we'd be shutting down, right, shutting small businesses, restaurants back in March, I took that news unwell. Let's put it that way. For the last nine months, we have been dealing with a situation where we have constantly been living for all kinds of reasons, but right now let's deal with the pandemic in a state of anxiety, fear, and threat of all kinds of things pertaining to the virus. I have been a vocal proponent of not shutting down. I have been a vocal advocate of keeping our small businesses open. I, like other small business owners, March, April, May, and June, lost, came close to running out of business. Had it not been for the PPP loan from the government, I wouldn't have made it. Other small business owners are in that similar situation. Currently, the reason why I and others are stressing out is because there's no more powder left. The phrase, keep your powder dry. There's no powder. It's dry. If we go on shut down again, I and others are worried. I understand the sentiment of people who own small business saying, I'm not shutting down again or restaurants wanting to stay open. I get that. As a result of what happened, national news, media, I canceled my cable subscription in April. I have not been watching the national news. I'm getting all my information from two sources, actually three sources. Harold, I'm getting it from the state emails, and I'm getting it from the city Danieman's updates. So the county, state, and the city is where I'm getting my COVID information from. And I saw a change. The problem is the government shut us down, and I believe that it was unnecessary before premature, which made us all tired, sick of COVID, and put us in a situation where we can't do it again. But the difference is now I'm seeing 31 hospitals are currently full in the state of Colorado. I'm seeing that Weld County had 78 ICU beds, 76 were full. And I was seeing that Longmont's hospitals, we had 10 ICU beds left, seven in Longmont. And what I was seeing in these emails and in these briefings was that it suddenly dawned on me that, oh my gosh, I agree. Most of this won't die of COVID. A very small percentage of us are elderly are exposed. Five and a half percent are looking at dying. So you have the left arguing number of cases, you have the right arguing deaths. But the reality is, if all the elderly who get COVID and need an ICU bed go and seek help, what are we going to do if we have a car accident? What are we going to do if we have sepsis? What are we going to do if we have a heart attack? So we don't have enough ICU beds. If you talk, I talk to the CEOs of UC Health and LUH. They've got another problem. That is, as we're building beds and people are building facilities, it's not going to do us any good because we don't have trained nurses and doctors available in order to treat people in ICU, COVID and otherwise. So now all of a sudden we go into the holiday seasons, and I don't like you guys, but I used to, how many people do you know have had COVID? How many people have had COVID? I don't know anybody who has COVID. I know a lot of people who have had COVID. I've had a person in my Lakewood office, two people in my Longmont office, my daughter, my son-in-law, my brother, his kid. I mean, everybody's getting COVID, which means that percentage of people who need an ICU bed is increasing. And so 23 mayors, I didn't sign the letter. They did not even ask me to sign it because they just assumed that Bagley wouldn't be on board. But 23 mayors of the Metro Mayor's Caucus sent a letter to the governor saying, please put pressure on counties like Weld County so that they will comply with the state mandated emergency health orders. Like it or not, the state legislature handed that authority off to the governor. From day one, I and this council have said we will back the governor. We will comply with orders whether we like it or not. So this last round, he said restaurants are going to close, only curbside pick up and carry out. Whether I like that or not is irrelevant. There are county health directors and there are state orders for a reason. They have information that we don't. Whether we like it or not, whether you voted for Governor Polis or not, he is the man in charge right now trying to get us through this pandemic. 23 mayors sent a letter saying, please comply Weld County. Their response was, no, we will not enforce any restriction pertaining to businesses, lockdowns, limiting gatherings, nothing. So Mayor Bagley, being Mayor Bagley, basically simply proposed a point or I proposed an ordinance but was really making a point. If it comes down to it, I never said let's don't give Weld County and other counties that don't comply health care. What I said is, if we face a situation where there is a bed or there is a hospital room or a situation where we cannot get the resources and there are two people needing access to one doctor or one ICU bed and you have one person who comes from a jurisdiction that complies and another one that does not, it would only be fair to say, hey, if you're complying, you get access to the bed. I never said we're going to cut it off from Weld County. I was proving a point that you're either part of the solution or you are the problem. That was it. And so now, I then walked it back because I was getting calls from elderly people saying, why are you going to take away my health care? Nobody is proposing that. That was never my point. But my point still stands and my concern still stands and that is we have neighbors to the east who are, by their words, are encouraging their citizens and the residents of Weld County to not comply with the governor's health and safety orders. What that means is their hospitals get full, they come to us. And where I got mad was they had two beds but they reported having 43. And those 43 beds were located in Boulder, Broomfield, Larimer and Adams. They have two hospitals but they were counting another 12 to say we've got 14 in Weld County and I thought that is wholly unfair, completely unfair. So I put it on the agenda, the media caught wind of it, and you observed what happened. So those of you listening on public invited to be heard, I'm sorry you're scared, I'm sorry you're angry, I'm sorry I'm sure many of you are going to say it's not human of me. Scarcity, I'm sure mostly people who are angry at me are Republicans and conservative. Let me say that I also speak that language, I'm a capitalist. Scarcity is a resource. If you have one bed, one bed only, two people who need it, the question becomes what criteria would you impose to make sure that the right person got that bed? Now we're not going to do it at a local level, we're going to leave that up to the the state's hospital association. But I do think that there are some things that we need to do and say to our neighbors to the east. Joan, I believe you had an idea that I am willing to support. Would you like to have the floor at this point? Yes, thank you Mayor Bagley and I don't think I need to say anymore except for that I understood what you were trying to do and the premise of what you were trying to do. So I am going to make a motion, I sent all of council a resolution that I am going to read and then we'll vote on and discuss if you want to do it or if you do not. So it is a resolution in support of the governor's temporary restrictions on COVID-19. So I move that we accept this resolution which I will read. It says whereas our nation in the state of Colorado are experiencing the coronavirus epidemic whereas the governor of Colorado, Jared Polis has issued statewide temporary restrictions to minimize the risk and spread of the virus whereas the elected officials of several counties including our neighbor Weld County refuse to follow the temporary restrictions whereas Weld County's refusal to follow the governor's restrictions is impacting the risk and health of Longmont and surrounding cities. Now therefore be it resolved that Longmont City Council directs staff to craft a letter to the Weld County commissioners number one demanding that Weld County follow the governor's temporary restrictions and make a public statement to residents encourage wearing masks social distancing and hand washing and consider erecting medical tents to add more beds and to care for the county's overflow ICU patients as other cities are doing. Longmont City Council further direct staff to reach out to other cities in our health impact region to sign the letter and send the letter to Governor Polis suggesting that state funding be withheld from all counties not complying with the state's temporary restrictions. So do I have a second on that one? I'm sure you have you might have a few but I'm gonna let somebody else do it. Council Member Christensen? I'll second him. All right it's been the motion to approve the resolution again resolution is quirky this is just to put it on the agenda the resolution was to direct staff so it's not a resolution declaring anything it's just Joan resolution small r saying we're gonna direct staff in a very public important way to please prepare something for our next meeting so and it was seconded by Council Member Christensen. All right let's open this matter for debate. Anybody? Let's go with let's go with Council Member Waters then Council Member Martin then Council Member Christensen. So do you or Council Member Peck want any feedback on the substance of this? Because if it comes back the way it's worded now I'm going to have concerns about it. I just like for example my concern is I wouldn't necessarily tell people to set up tents if we don't have staff but I think for for tonight I mean I mean it's we're directing staff to bring something back but what would you what would your concern be Dr. Waters? That would be one I mean I just have questions about when field hospitals are created just to cities do that or to health care providers and you have the staff etc and what are the liabilities if we do it versus the our medical providers that would be one the other is it's my understanding that the legislation that's going to the governor already contains a clause or provision that would would restrict the allocation of funding or the award of funding and it's going to be on an application basis but the counties that don't comply with the governor's orders that's in the legislation it's on its way to the governor's desk now so that would be you know whether one I don't think we need that that's that's the point though those would be the only I agree in concept I appreciate the effort and I'd like to be I'd like to have a resolution I could vote yes on those to be to my two concerns. Can I address that? Sure of course you can Joan go ahead so Councilman Waters would it be maybe a suggestion to amend this to say that we support the legislation going to uh that is going to be voted on um to whatever your wording was. Yeah I think that would be a I think that would be spot on actually because that is what what's going on yeah okay so you that's an amendment you're making I would oh if you'll accept that that amendment I'll make that amendment yes sure yes okay Harold. On that piece and I was going to touch on this in my COVID update in terms of supporting the governor on that legislation in that piece could you all make the motion where we can draft a letter for you all to sign and get out um quickly because it's only a three-day legislative session so if you can adjust that so we can write a letter declaring your support so we can get that to you and get it to the governor. We'll do that as soon as we wrap up on this one but actually let's do that now is we have consensus on that do we not guys? All right let's just like can we deal with this yeah we'll deal with this we'll deal with this one we'll deal with this one and then we'll come back that's good uh Marcia are you done doc? Well only no well I was I appreciate the uh gals member back accepting the amendment I I don't know what to make of the of the 10s I get the point I just think I if we if if it was to support if the cities this council supporting whatever our providers would need to do to deploy resources to accommodate overflow something like that as as specific as constructing fence but I just I'd just be happy if the world county commissioners stop making statements such as we're going to embrace our freedoms and constitutional rights while the rest of you cower in your home and Netflix and chill.  All right council member Marcia Martin? Um I was just going to suggest I don't know whether it's still true or not um but uh there was a chance that the legislature was going to wrap up tomorrow um it might be better to have the um the staff draft a letter of support to whatever um uh consequences the legislature puts into place and then um have the letter sent as as a a an open letter to all the commissioners. Well let's let's let's let's deal with the letter after we're done with Jones. Let's let's deal with the letter afterward we tackle uh Jones uh direction and resolution to the staff. Can you set it right? Then we'll come back Marcia. Yeah yeah that just just then to say let's let's just put a little um a little flexibility into the into the staff's direction so that based on what the legislature does they can react to that. Okay all right council member Christensen. Um thank you uh mayor I um I am in support of this I think this is the right way to do it I think so we need to have two letters one in support of the governor's initiative and another uh seeking the support of Fort Collins and Loveland uh to react against this I I as I told you on the phone Brian when I talked to you I I quite I completely agree that their behavior is irresponsible it's going to cause death and it's you know flouting the law is it's ridiculous it is totally just political ideology and posturing and it's going to cost people their lives um I we're all incredibly frustrated at the I've I've run a small business uh you know half of us have and it's extremely painful to see what's happening to everybody around here but the businesses are it's heartbreaking because some of them will never come back they've put everything they had into their business and you know we're all feeling very helpless about it it's extremely frustrating um I am particularly disgusted with the weld county commissioners statement that uh Longmont city council is attacking the working class who are the ones um that are suffering from the shutdown they're suffering because of people like the weld county commissioners who encourage people not to uh follow protocol and that's why we have this skyrocketing amount of COVID out here the the working class has definitely suffered the most they always do and the and the poor we have a 40 percent rate of COVID among the Latinos in boulder county and they're only 13.8 of the county that is Latino so that's that's outrageous that's because they are front line workers and essential workers when the weld county commissioners accuse us of attacking the working class that is disgusting to me because that is exactly what we're trying to protect is everybody if everybody follows the protocol we will slowly slowly bring this back down again um I wanted to clarify something because um oh I thought that the um comment in this or the idea of erecting tents in this uh resolution had to do with weld county erecting tents if they don't have enough uh ICU's there then they should pay for erecting tents in weld county to make up for the fact that they don't have enough ICU units is that not true because well right now so right now the governor issued a uh the governor issued an order where he took uh took authority regulating what patients go to what hospitals when they get full right as a backup measure to the hospital association of the state um they're they're running everything so um but but weld county should be augmenting their hospitals with tents not if if I I mean I would argue if if the governor says that's necessary I would say yes you know but uh but I don't think I don't know if the the the governor has has done that yet so okay that's that's confusing but I I am for this and I I think that I'm glad we're having this discussion I really don't like the way you did this Mayor Bagley but I am glad as I told you we need to have this discussion and we're having it now and that's a good thing and this is the way to do it is in public and with all of council but um I I really hope we can get Loveland and Fort Collins to join on to this and say you know we're all fault we're all acting like neighbors we're all acting like good neighbors and you need to too you don't get to come over to my yard and trash it you know we don't we would not deny medical care to anybody it's illegal and it's immoral but it is wrong for people to expect us to bear the burden of what they've been irresponsible enough to let loose and so I I applaud the mayor and councilwoman peck for um bringing this forth and um I hope we can get those letters out pretty quick so thank you councilmember and one other point that just comes to mind is that our rest so we can't open our restaurants until our our numbers go down and if a neighbor is bringing mud into the house taking our shoes off is not going to make a difference so to speak and so what we're really doing is asking the neighbor please don't blare your radio don't flick your cigarette buds onto our lawn just just help us please uh councilmember yedoggo faring so I do have a question about and I am in support of this resolution um yeah so I it's nothing in regard to this but I think it's really important that the public know boulder county is if I read when I looked at the slide 6.7 percent positivity rate correct herald you're on mute yes and I can go over okay and I just wanted to put it in context with yeah it's called weld county's positivity rate what is theirs uh you made it just share my screen on this part you can't I know it was like 16 something but I don't I didn't want to give a miscalculated number so I'm gonna this is the COVID dial and you'll see some of this again so if you look at longmont 757 essentially down six point this says 6.9 but on the updated slides from the county we're at 6.7 and then we're eight days declining but what's what she really is asking she wants you to compare to weld county I am county now so oh shoot yeah let's see now we can see it all right so let me do this again so this is boulder county 757 here it says 6.9 the updated number we have from the county that I'll show I believe 6.7 and eight days declining stable hospitalizations two-week cumulative incidents 1116 1169 average positivity 15.4 and six days of declining stable hospitalizations so right around the right right around the time that this hit the news so and they're in red in all three categories that's another thing to put into perspective of why neighboring counties we why we are so frustrated and it's it isn't fair to put this on our own business owners and it's not fair to their own residents who are trying to do the right thing who are trying to be healthy but they are prolonging this whole issue with the pushing back they're the reason why I can't be in classroom in front of my kids and that I'm in screens with watching all my 20 kids online uh you know I'm done with that everybody needs to be a good neighbor we we are in this together so I keep going back to you know the world war two effort you know do your part for Uncle Sam do your part for America okay we're in a situation like that and the pushback you know that we're against working working class I'm working class we are many of us here are working class we that's not the issue that's not the issue we're trying to do the right thing to suppress the spread so we can open up so we can be in front of our classroom with our kids and you know I hear some of the pushback that I was heard well masks don't work well masks work with hand washing and social distancing there are many facets that need to be in place in order for this to work it's not just one or the other and we need everybody to do their part that's all I'm going to say sorry it's been a long day amen thank you council member all right so we've got a motion on the table and that motion is directing staff to prepare a resolution um asking I'm summarizing here asking the uh uh asking staff to reach out and admonish um I believe the word was demand that our neighbor in Weld County the commissioners uh encourage themselves comply and encourage their residents to comply with the governor's emergency orders pertaining to covid uh reach out to our fellow neighbors and get them to sign on to the letter as well as draft the letter to the governor asking that uh encouraging him to withhold state funding from those counties such as Weld County that do not comply with his emergency orders council member peck um thank you mere badly uh that last part that you just read remember that uh councilman waters made a friendly amendment to this that we were going to support the legislation uh yes okay a letter supporting what the legislation that's going to the governor encouraging that the state withhold funding from Weld County and other counties that fail to comply with the governor's uh emergency orders pertaining to covid correct so all in favor say aye aye opposed say nay all right that motion passes uh carries unanimously thank you guys yes councilman martin um thank you mere bagley uh i just want to uh call on the people of longmont first of all as our numbers are improving uh i can say that i think we are doing well in you know getting back on track with our compliance but we need to put our money where our mouth is which means putting up with getting carry out from our local businesses and don't cross that line so you can eat inside a restaurant please just please don't do it but i was actually invited to weld county to go to dinner i'm like you kidding me hell no all right uh do we need to uh council member christensen they might have you for dinner i'm not kidding yeah i don't know the other thing is all the people so we're about ready to yell that um we're about ready to go into first call public invited to be heard actually we don't let's go ahead and do this covid update and then a special report and then i'll i'll just i'm gonna say it again everyone needs to direct their comments to the chair good news most people are gonna be mad at me and i am the chair so it'll be great but let's go ahead and uh city manager report please um mayor council actually today we have a fairly extensive report to you all uh based on everything that we've been going over with the county the numbers um and i'm i'm gonna touch on hospital issues and then sandy's gonna update on the legislative stuff some of the things have passed and so sandy's going to jump in and tell you what's happened recently uh the first thing i want to say is um there's been a lot of activity and part of it is there have been changes um at the cdc level cdphz in terms of how we manage exposures and what we deal with and so it's really created a lot of conversations with the county so um we're in the middle of really readjusting some things based on what happens when someone's positive and we go through the tracing process internally and then what does that mean to us in terms of our ongoing operation um at one point we thought there were going to be some really significant issues in terms of continuing operations based on that but we've had some really productive conversations with the council the county today want to thank them for the work they've done and uh their their teamwork that we used in this so we think we really have a pass forward path forward to ensure that we can continue our most critical operations that being said there are some things within the new guidelines from the state and from the cdc that may mean certain operations that are not critical if we have certain exposures may have to shut down for a little bit based on the new guidance in terms of how far how long we have to potentially quarantine someone but there's a way to deal with that and it's kind of what you all were talking about and it's pretty simple for us and we're going to be reinforcing this within our organization um it is wear mask but now masking is not the big piece it's actually socially distancing and making sure that you're at least six feet from someone and you don't have that continuous exposure for 15 minutes with the same individual over a 24-hour period of time those are key components that they're now bringing into that evaluation um and determining whether or not you need to isolate for um 14 days and so we're working through a lot of this because it's a new change we don't know everything but just wanted to let you know if you hear us having to make some adjustments non-critical operations it is because of the new guidance that's moving through um and coming down I'm going to share my screen now can you all see the little COVID piece the little ball so um today I'm doing the presentation Jeff is going to be able to join us next week um he and I have been talking about the numbers and we've been going over it so he's provided me with their presentation um and then I also have a slide that he wanted me to present to you all um when we look at this this is what we started off with and so when you look at the cumulative incidence rate you can see all of the counties in red I think the important piece on this is that last week um Boulder County was at 891.9 so we are down um about 140 on on this two-week cumulative incidence incidence rate and then when you look at the two-week testing positivity rate you can see that we're at 6.7 percent this is the number that council member Hidalgo Ferring was referring to earlier but you can see that um you know counties are all over the place in terms of their incidence rate and to the point you were making um when you look along the front range um you know Boulder is you know and this rate performing better you can see these other counties in orange but you can definitely see the counties that are in red um that you all were talking about earlier and then when you look at the hospitalization status you can see um 8 to 11 days this has obviously changed since this has changed on the website versus a slide that I got earlier today so you can see how they're updating that real time in this so I would refer to the website on this one that's where the biggest difference is when we look at the numbers and you really see what's been going on recently um you can see that um we hit the high of 327 cases in one day um the key piece in this is that from 1123 to 1129 um all of our daily case counts the complete data set was above 100 every day and we were above 150 on four days you know and that's a lot when you look at where we were in early October but it's still better than where we were recently in terms of when we really saw this spike now when you look at this chart this again um is the chart that they started creating when they saw you know in the light blue the cases that were associated with cu the big piece on this one is that about eight percent of the cases in the past week have been about among cu affiliated county residents and so that they're continuing to watch that um then when we look at the um number of boulder county residents testing who are so considered probable with long term care facility um there have been 113 uh long term care facility associated cases among boulder county residents in the past two weeks um this is one of the highest two week case counts for long term care facilities that we've had um and it's surpassed only during the height of the initial surge in uh late april early may they're currently 15 confirmed active outbreaks in boulder county long term care facilities and that's up from five from last week now this is an interesting piece because i want to talk about a little bit as it relates to the work that we're doing with the housing authority um as you all know um a number the properties that we have at the housing authority have high risk individuals in those and so we've had to take certain actions um based on the move to level red where we don't allow people to congregate in areas um we are request requiring the masking and some other pieces but i also want to let you know that it is based on what we're seeing in terms of compliance there's probably going to be more information coming out for me essentially saying if you don't comply with the orders we may have to consider this lease violation because of what we're seeing in some of our facilities we have had in um one facility um the lodge in hearstone we've had a number of individuals test positive tomorrow we've been working with cdphg where they're sending in a strike team so we can test everyone in both facilities if they choose to be tested um because we are seeing a number of cases it's not considered an outbreak and this is what we've learned in the process because they are essentially apartments and they're not a long-term care facility where they all where individuals move in and out it's not considered one but it is something that we're concerned about boulder county health is concerned about and cdphg so we're working on this to get the area tested unfortunately we have had two deaths um within the last couple of weeks and um so what we do is because of HIPAA rules we notify individuals who have had close contact and and then we just start working with them in terms of what we need to do to try to keep everyone safe but we're going to take a more aggressive approach because we're definitely seeing the same thing you're seeing here in long-term care facilities we've seen and to the point you all were making it is an issue that we're concerned about when you look at the five-day average of number of new cases i mean this is who would have thought that we would have said 157 looks good but if you can see the peak and where we are we're definitely trending in the right direction i think what i was hearing a lot today though is there's really a lot of concern about what's going to happen after the holidays and so um if you happen to catch the governor's press conference with dr. Fauci they talked about a surge upon a surge and how people were in how did people congregate during the holidays and what's that going to mean in terms of the caseload so again we're still really watching this um and so it's 157 cases per day it's decreased um where we were averaging about 202 when you look at the new case rates by county i think it's it's really important to see the red which is boulder county um over the past 10 days new case rates in all metro counties have been dropping but um they're still far above any time during the recent surge boulder obviously the red line is lower than all but broomfield county in terms of new case rates per hundred thousand um so again to the point we were making we're all moving in a better direction we hope that we can continue this um we're going to talk about what we're seeing in the county so since uh the first of october longmont has had the highest um case rate per hundred thousand of all the municipalities and you can see that's 2700 versus 1900 with boulder again the data for lions they're still working with because of po box but you know there's there's a lot of room for improvement in terms of our community uh in terms of the per hundred thousand we'll show you the cases this is actually um what it looks this graph shows a weekly number of covid cases um by a slight group of municipalities um boulder 381 cases longmont 458 um louisville lafayette superior 169 cases and then the other municipalities and unincorporated boulder county 131 cases in the past seven days about 34 percent of the new cases have resided in the city of boulder and 40 percent have resided in longmont so what does this mean in terms of age range you're continuing to see um the same uh democrat the same breakdown by age range 18 to 22 still has the the majority of cases um as we look at this and again this is per hundred thousand this is not actual cases um so 18 to 22 then 23 to 24 25 to 34 and 34 i'm happy most we've been talking about children and i think this is you know when we look at cases among zero to four and 10 to 14 year olds that has actually remained relatively steady or declined recently which is um um compared to the previous two weeks um cases did fall among the five to nine and five to 17 year olds over the time periods five to nine to decrease by 29 percent and 15 to 17 decreased by 24 percent so i know we were all watching that related to um education in in our youth in our communities um transom case rate by age group um they're diverging and case rates have decreased among zero to 44 year olds they've remained relatively stable among 45 to 64 year olds they've increased by 25 percent among 65 to 70 year old 74 year olds and 29 percent among 75 plus in the past two weeks compared to the previous two weeks and so that that divergence is important because as we talked about earlier in what you've heard us say um the likelihood of someone being hospitalized is is higher in that uh 65 plus age group and and then what we tend to see is the severity of the cases are more likely statistically um in that age group so um it's and you can see this movement here where you can see the 75 plus and then the 65 you can see where it's they're both moving opposite of what we're seeing in the other age ranges um 75 76.5 percent of the cases have a known ethnicity um only race ethnicity groups of three or more cases are displayed um we're continuing to see persistent large disparities among our Hispanic Latinx population in the past seven days 43.4 percent of the cases or 344 have been among Hispanic Hispanic Latinx and 52.5 percent of our cases are 416 have been among quite non-Hispanic one of the things I wanted to talk about on this slide is we've been working with the county and so last Tuesday we actually started um a testing site in the evenings at Lashley Street Station because we're trying to to have to create a testing site at this point once a week generally in the areas where we're seeing the cases develop so we can have easy access for members of our community and we're doing it in the evening because we understand people work and being able to test during the days is not easy um we have really hit in terms of having our bilingual staff members and cultural brokers at this location um so we have multiple people who are bilingual um to to help folks fill out the forms um I don't know how they did today last week because we didn't have a council meeting I volunteered it was not a lot of people went in but it was Thanksgiving week and um everything tended to be down I'll get a report tomorrow to see how many people went into that location we're going to continue evaluating it and we're going to continue to work with our neighborhood resources group and Carmen to really see how do we continue to engage in conversations with our cultural brokers so that we can help individuals understand the importance of testing but also what services we have available because that's one of the things that we heard so the two questions that I heard the most and I was out there is one is the testing free and two if we test positive what resources are available if we're unable to go to work so we're we're wrapping our hands and trying to improve that communication um there's there has been a decrease in the absolute and no change in the relative disparity in this population and I think this is what you're seeing in this in terms of the the Latinx population um we're not seeing as many cases but the percentage and the disparity still tending to trend in the same direction um the five-day average percent of tests that were positive is 6.2 so when you look at this this is a five-day average not the two-week average so that's where you're seeing the differences in the number at the beginning of October we're 4.7 so we're definitely seeing this move in the right direction um when you can see the in this pace this is the number of tests that we're conducting and this is the number of positive tests and you can see that we're just able to perform a lot in the sense that thousands the first benchmark the first area here versus before you would see two five hundred seven hundred um and so we're performing a lot of tests in our community we have the fairgrounds we have the site at the innovation center we have the site at lashley street that we're that we're working partnering with the county on and then you can see what that rolling average looks like and this is important this is one of the pieces that we watch really close in terms of how we're moving and that um the five-day rolling average on percent positive um and once again and this is just to show the movement really not going to focus um because there is a three-day lag between the the time a test is conducted and when the results are reported um it's we're we're still seeing that movement and we're hoping to see that continued movement in this case um again similar piece but what you're seeing is this movement here and here in the 65 to 74 and the 75 plus so here's the question hospitalizations um the data at this date is cumulative over time um most cases have not been hospitalized more severe outcomes have been seen among the older age groups which we've been talking about this is where we sit today and if you remember this early on um the staffing dial in terms of what council member or mayor bagley was talking about um we've we've always been in this green area here it's moving closer to yellow that's what we're hearing from our medical providers in terms of having staff availability um adult critical care events you can see here is in the yellow um they're doing well but we're definitely see the dial move and then the icu beds is what we were talking about in terms of the hospitals the number we had today we had 120 hospitalized in boulder county that's actually down a little bit um and we had 38 hospitalized in long line so here's what the hospitalizations in boulder county looks like um and this is not just specific to boulder county residents um this is p this is individuals that are hospitalized in boulder county um and you can see that trend in terms of what we've seen recently um again the number i had when i said 120 um this slide was presented earlier today so obviously it's not showing that decrease um and then here's a question that we're having now level purple is really the hospital surge metrics and so the metric the first metric is approaching the need for medical crisis standards of care um our boulder county hospitals are reporting that they're not approaching this um utilizing alternative care sites no critical shortages of PPE or staff um the reporting sufficient PPE two of five boulder county hospitals are reporting anticipated staff shortages and regionally 43 percent 13 of 30 um hospitals are reporting anticipated staff shortages again the conversation that we were having earlier um and then hospitals approaching 90 percent of the reported surge capacity um boulder county 19 percent of medical surgical and 17 percent of icu beds available again that's lower than where we've been one of five boulder county hospitals reporting the anticipated icu beds shortage um for transfer capability three of five hospitals report tight tight icu capability for covid patients and four or five report tight icu capability for non-covid patients meaning being able to transfer into the system um and then 46 percent of regional hospitals report um less than 10 percent icu bed availability so this is a conversation you all were having this is the data behind that conversation and then this is what it looks like in terms of colorado um the blue is confirmed um the the light gray or light brown is persons under investigation um again this is the deaths that we've seen recently um and then i included these slides so this is part of the slide deck because i think there's been a lot of conversation about the flu in covid and the similarities in terms of the clue colorado flu report we've had three hospitalizations with the flu no outbreaks in long-term care facilities no pediatric deaths and so at this point um in terms of the flu not seeing a lot of activity that's likely to go up when you look at this emergency department visits for covid related symptoms and diagnosed flu um red is covid related systems symptoms blue is diagnosed flu and then green is the total ed visit so you can definitely see once again what the hospitals are having to deal with um and then this is what it looks like in boulder county versus the other counties and again this is um as you can see for this um this is this does not include well in the data set and then finally um what jeff wanted me to share with you um in terms of the latest picture we are seeing cases stabilizing um but we're continuing to see hospitalizations increasing we're estimating one in 41 people statewide are infectious with covid 19 i actually had a question from one of the members of our community to go well what's that number for long month we don't have that um you know because they really need to look at statewide um we maybe only get something on the county level but um i haven't seen one as you know we're in red um and you have to be in those other levels for two weeks in order to level down um we are expecting to see increases in cases associated with Thanksgiving based on what we've seen in other holidays but more importantly there is hope with the vaccine and so you all may have seen before council meeting started the cdc did vote on on the distribution piece so they're looking at um to high priority populations health care hopefully beginning in late December um jeff wanted me to reiterate fall and winter is going to continue to be a challenge and we're all indoors more holiday gatherings and as we know from the data the gatherings is where we really saw the increase obviously flu mixed with it and then covid 19 fatigue um in that people need to stay diligent we're not that far away from getting the vaccine um out into our community you know we're now talking months um and at the end of the day what i will say is our individual behaviors driver outcomes how are we social distancing how are we reducing gatherings are we wearing mask and are we hand washing um because you know that's going to be critical for us as we continue to move forward i will take a breath and now answer any questions you all have dr waters yes then a question so my chair old is you might just spend another moment reflecting on uh uh what how much authority does city council or does the city of lung want have over um uh not the availability but the priorities for who gets access to a vaccine we received an email earlier today from a resident uh who had the impression that somehow we're making that decision right now to clarify for folks that's not we have no jurisdiction over who's eligible and when they're eligible no because i think so the so that's really important so obviously you heard me reference the fact that the cdc is is voting on how the vaccine is going to be distributed what they did is they solicited input from states and states solicited input from the county health department of which we had representatives on the group who communicated so what the county health departments did is they made recommendations to the state health department the state health department sent those recommendations then to the cdc and then the cdc made a decision in terms of what that disbursement is going to look like and we're getting more clarity on it every week but if you didn't catch the news what they really talked about and i think the available uh number of vaccines are 40 million but it's really 20 million people because it's a double vaccine that they have to get and they talked about frontline health care workers and people in um uh long-term care facilities and and folks go why that well because you've obviously heard me talk about the impact of the medical system but no council we do not have a direct role in that other than we do have staff contributing to the conversation all right anybody else any other questions all right let's move on to the soul smart award presentation and then we're going to take a short break as we get ready for public invited to be heard hello this is tim ellison everybody hear me yep go ahead tim thank you uh good evening mayor bagley and council members my name is tim ellis and i'm the renewable energy strategy manager um for the energy strategy energy strategies and solutions group at lpc and um here tonight because i'm pleased to present or bring before council the presentation of a soul smart silver award to long month this award provides national recognition of the city's efforts to help simplify and speed up solar installations by improving the solar permit process improvements to the solar permitting process that make it easier for residents and businesses to install arrays is one of multiple ways in which lpc and the city are progressing towards our 100 renewable energy goal in addition to the award itself one example of the national recognition we received already uh through this award is that long month there's our solar feasibility study which we have recently completed was highlighted in the most recent soul smart monthly newsletter which is great news uh before i hand over the presentation of the award i'd like to acknowledge some of the city team members who made this award possible so a big thank you to assistant city manager johnny marsh las rinandez and his team from buildings department and and lewitt's from the energy strategies and solutions group at lpc without their reference we wouldn't have achieved this success in this award today um so now i'd like to introduce nick kaza nicks uh the program manager in sustainability department for the national league of cities nick can you please go ahead and with the presentation of the award and susan if you could put up the slide that was sent over that would be great also show the what the plaque looked like it's pretty big i hope to get it in here but that is the word so nick please go ahead nick are you there i'm you there we go okay having a little trouble unmuting um good evening everyone happy to be here this evening with you all as tim did mention my name is nick kaza and i'm a program manager on the sustainability team at the national league of cities nlc is one of about a dozen organizations that administer the soul the soul smart program i'm here to present the city of longmont with their soul smart silver designation soul smart is a national designation and technical assistance program that recognizes solar energy achievements of local governments soul smart which is funded by the u.s department of energy also provides assistance to cities and counties to help them improve processes and reduce barriers to solar soul smart designated communities are recognized for making it easier faster and more affordable for homes and businesses to install solar energy as a soul smart silver design the city of longmont joins an exclusive group of 389 communities that have been designated across the united states and the city is one of 24 communities to be designated in the state of colorado this designation demonstrates the city's commitment to sustainable practices and policies and complements the city's 100% renewable energy goal by 2030 with every home or business that installs solar the city is one step closer to achieving that goal this silver designation improves longmont's sorry improves longmont's improves upon longmont's bronze designation which was awarded in 2017 using objective criteria soul smart designation is awarded to communities that have implemented nationally recognized solar energy best practices in areas such as permitting inspection planning and zoning in fact to complete the requirements for silver designation staff from the building services department reviewed an online training series about best practices for solar pv permitting and inspection longmont has also streamlined their solar permitting processes which can save time and money for customers and the city this designation is in recognition of the work that the city has done to implement solar energy policies and procedures that are transparent well-defined and documented and predictable in recognition of their silver designation longmont received the great soul smart plaque that tim was holding up earlier and as he mentioned they were also featured in the monthly soul smart newsletter on behalf of the entire soul smart team i'd like to congratulate the city and all the staff that were involved making sure that longmont received the recognition it deserves for being a leading solar community in the united states hope you all have a great evening thank you very much all right everybody is that it thank you very much we appreciate it whenever we get the cool awards like the soul smart award it's awesome so that means you're doing a good job so we like seeing that councilmember peck did you want to say something oh i just wanted i was just waving but hopefully next year thank you very much i hope next year we get the gold award we'll work on it yeah yeah congratulate them but just yeah just yeah you can do better son you can do better all right so let's go ahead and take how many people are currently on the public invited to be heard lists mayor we don't have a list we will wait when we open it up and they call in we do have a group lined up to speak on the trash item the waste services item but they've all got to call in first so all right let's go ahead and take a five minute break then be back a little bit guys all right folks if you're joining us for public invited to be heard now is the time to call in please dial the number on your screen enter the meeting id and make sure that you mute this live stream when you call and listen to the instructions on your telephone when we are ready to admit you and start the public invited to be heard process we will call on you by the last three digits of your telephone number at which time you will be able to state your name and address for the record and then you will have three minutes to speak so once again now is your time to call in please follow the instructions on your screen and mute the live stream i think that's about five right yes indeed mayor we'll pop him back on we'll just wait for councilmember christensen to come back to her chair joan to pop up we'll go for it how many are in the queue i was just trying to count i think we're we're a little over 20 all right let's start that let's start the fun looks like 19 people perhaps all right let's go ahead and start admitting them all right so give me just a moment here oops and caller number two two three caller two two three you should be able to unmute yourself state your name and address for the record and then you have three minutes caller two two three star six to unmute hi sorry molly briggs 8245 north 39th street thank you molly and did you have this video to share with us today correct we have one planet but if everyone consumed resources like we do in the united states we would need five planets worth of resources to keep up clearly that math does not add up our consumption is not sustainable once we extract natural resources to make them into products we need to maintain the value of the resources that went into making those products so we can get more in line with the limits of our one planet that's why we need to keep those resources in the production system as long as possible by recycling as much as we can we already spent tons of time and energy and money extracting and refining those natural resources into products so it only makes sense to use and reuse them over and over rather than putting them in the landfill and starting the whole process over again our first reason for why recycling makes sense is that it saves a lot of energy by adopting zero waste strategies including recycling we could reduce greenhouse gas at 400 million metric tons of co2 per year the equivalent of taking more than 20 percent of us coal fired power plants off the grid manufacturing products from recycled materials saves 30 to 90 percent of the energy needed to manufacture those products from natural resources and it doesn't require additional extraction of trees fossil fuels or metal ores making an aluminum can out of recycled aluminum saves 95 percent of the energy required to make the same amount of aluminum from its virgin source by recycling we can also reduce demands on new natural resources recycling extends the lifespan of materials reducing pressure on finite natural resources for example aluminum cans and glass bottles can be recycled indefinitely when we recycle these materials it reduces the need to extract more bauxite or silica from the earth once we have those materials we have them no need to dig into the earth for more bauxite or silica as long as we quit landfilling the valuable glass and aluminum we've already invested in here's another benefit of recycling manufacturing i'm not sure what happened there but she's got 24 seconds left so we thank you for your comments so we'll go ahead to the next caller all righty let's see here caller 192 caller 192 are you able to unmute yourself state your name and address for the record and you have three minutes fideasing i'm Naomi Curlin and my address is 2073 goldfinch court i'm a board member of sustainable resilient long month and chair of our zero waste committee some of our members are here to speak to you as well and we're very happy staff is bringing you the waste services presentation tonight our zero waste team has helped promote composting signups organized community cleanups and health events and educational presentations this past year with covid we've put on three zero waste webinars food waste and the climate connection living in zero waste lifestyle in the time of covid and a food preservation webinar we also organized a community cleanup in conjunction with the city's cleanup cleanup program in october and we plan to adopt a park through the city volunteer program in 2021 we are committed to empowering people with good information about sustainable living and that starts with our consumption impacts first i'll provide a little context colorado is one of the most wasteful states in our nation recycling only 15.9 percent of our waste less than half the national recycling rate of 35 percent and well behind our state's goal to reach 28 percent diversion by 2021 this sad reality is getting worse with all the growth for experiencing and the plastics we're consuming the data shows that boosting recycling and composting participation can provide a real boon to local economies while yielding big environmental benefits in long month we're diverting about 34 percent of our residential waste from the landfill which is better than the state average however when commercial waste is factored in we're only diverting 24 percent of the total trash generated in the long month which means we're sending 76 percent to the landfill and the saddest part is that an estimated 80 percent of what's being landfill could have been diverted through composting and recycling we can and need to do better beginning tonight you will have a huge opportunity for long month to step up and improve services to residents reduce trash generated and become a leader in our county region and state srl and our zero waste team is committed to working with the city to reduce materials to landfill and we need your leadership setting good policies to do so our zero waste team has identified three top priorities for waste services in long month one providing universal residential composting two requiring commercial recycling and three significantly improving outreach and education these priorities align with the city's sustainability plan and recommendations of climate action task force incorporating these three will make a big impact now to provide the most benefit from that climate change while empowering residents by improving services big problems call for big solutions thank you for considering some bold actions to empower the people who live work and play in long months to step up our efforts to save our precious planet thank you all right thank you next question or next next caller next caller is caller nine six two caller nine six two you should be able to unmute yourself and state your name and address for the record caller nine six two hi this is tim rodrick uh six one five Lincoln street uh long long colorado great you have three nine six two okay this is rachel zalaya i live at nine four eight road street and i'm the program hold on one second we've got let's go back to the first caller yep caller nine six two okay hi rachel zalaya nine four eight road street i'm the program coordinator at sustainable resilient long month and a member of the city's equitable climate actions team as residents of long month we're fortunate to have municipal services for our waste collection in addition to good employment municipal service provides transparency and accountability it also allows opportunities for resident input and saves us money none of that would be true with a for-profit private holler and um to prepare for this evening we've been in contact with charlie kemanides and bob allen of long month waste services both charlie and bob are to be commended for their vast knowledge commitment and excellent communication long month is the only municipality in boulder county to have municipal waste services this not only gives us the lowest rates in the county but also in the entire state our residents save roughly 30 on our monthly monthly bills compared to neighboring communities who must rely on for-profit trash hollers it also gives us a lot of autonomy concerning goals and services for instance lafayette struggles to get its many hollers to comply with any policy the city passes but in long month it's much easier to move forward on our waste diversion goals let's take advantage of that another benefit is that we only have one holler coming for our trash recycling and compost other cities have private hollers where residents subscribe to different services which can mean three to five different companies and trucks going into neighborhoods five and six days a week it's not only waste fossil fuels it causes air and noise pollution because we've got municipal services long month is now using waste service trucks powered by biogas from our wastewater treatment facility and we're the only municipality in the entire state with an every other week trash pickup option city staff is to be applauded for these cost savings innovative and environmentally friendly measures let's keep going by giving residents more earth-friendly convenient and affordable opportunities by enacting universal composting commercial recycling and robust education and outreach i look forward to hearing how the city of long want a municipal waste services will take advantage of its power to further reduce carbon emissions for our city through increased waste diversion efforts ensuring that everyone has access to composting and recycling and that we do our part to reduce the effects of climate change thank you thank you all right next caller all right caller 752 752 you should be able to unmute yourself caller 752 good evening mary headley 1615 bow and street long month i'm speaking tonight about srl's first priority which is to provide universal residential composting just as we now provide universal residential recycling by embedding a composting fee and all waste service subscriptions here's a summary of why we need more composting it reduce waste saves landfill space improves soil health boost agricultural production conserves water and helps combat air pollution and climate change roughly 40 of colorado's trash now being landfilled is organic matter such as food scraps yard waste and shredded paper all of which can be composted landfilling organics produces methane which is many times worse than co2 and causing global warming composting organics instead eliminates this problem plus when compost is applied to soil the resulting carbon sequestration fights climate change and our poor air quality top soil is enriched as compost pulls co2 from the air and stores it underground healthier soil creates plants that are more resilient to disease and drought smaller amounts of polluting fertilizers and pesticides are then needed and less water composting not only improves food production it improves our food's taste and nutritional value our grandparents knew the value of composting for their farms and we should do our part to get back to their wisdom currently longmont residents opt in for compost service this requires an extra step to do the right thing and contributes to our low participation rate of only 20 if people are informed about why composting is important and give an education how to do it and if the service is kept affordable and easy to do experts predict many more people will get on board i've been promoting citywide composting since i spoke to city council five years ago here are the top reasons people tell me they don't sign up one they don't have room for another big bin two they don't generate much organic waste and three they just don't understand what composting is all about that third point will be covered later tonight to address the first two points it would be helpful if people could request smaller bins to fit their needs if all longmont residents were to have compost service the economics could support offering bin size options to keep things simple and financially viable though our composting service should keep rates for recycling and composting constant regardless of bin size in summary a citywide composting program would provide a valuable service to longmont residents and could be structured to keep costs affordable it would also significantly improve our landfill diversion efforts and materially address our sustainability and climate change mitigation goals all right thank you thank you good good timing all right thank you all right next caller all right caller number 785 785 you should be able to unmute yourself and state your name and address for the record hello my name is ann rude and i live at the shores of macintosh lake 2450 airport road our second priority is an ordinance requiring commercial recycling which would also require compost to be collected at multi-family complexes or msc's apartments and businesses produce nearly 50 of waste in longmont most lack curbside recycling and collection and we're not presently aware of any msc's that provide compost collection requiring requiring recycling for commercial sector and msc's provides a universal benefit as Naomi mentioned due to low recycling efforts by businesses and msc's were sending 76 percent of the so-called waste generating longmont to the landfills again 80 percent of this can and should be recycled while some businesses and apartment complexes do the right thanks to their workers and residents by providing recycling collection most simply do not let's try to raise that bar in longmont and i'm i'm advocating on behalf of my fellow apartment dwellers that in addition to recycling we're also recommending that msc be required to provide the residents with compost collection i personally used to take my kitchen scraps into my office in boulder because the office provided composting services however since the pandemic i've been working at home and i have no longer been composting the convenience of having an easy way to dispose of my compost has just disappeared if i had on-site composting i could dispose of more than just kitchen scraps like the ones i used to take into my office all longmont residents deserve convenient access to both recycling and composting not just homeowners in conclusion please direct the staff to write an ordinance requiring recycling and msc's which includes compost collection at residential complexes doing so will substantially improve our landfill diversion percentages save and reduce demand for finite resources save energy save water and decrease global warming current and future longmont residents will benefit from your leadership on this thank you for this opportunity and thank you for moving along on forward on waste diversion efforts which improve residents quality of life by doing what's needed all right caller ending in seven eight two seven eight two you should be able to unmute yourself and state your name and address and you have three minutes good evening council my name is garret chapel and i live at eight seven eight elliott street much of what an brought up about multifamily complexes applies to businesses as well requiring recycling for the commercial sector as well as msc's will provide a net benefit to our community currently in colorado commercial waste collection can legally only be provided by private haulers the trash hauler lobby was unfortunately successful in getting state laws passed which prohibit municipalities like ours from providing the service to our own residents as a result they have no interest in helping to reduce the waste stream because their reality is more trash equals more money we need the intervention of this ordinance to break this antiquated mindset 50 of longmont's waste stream is commercial we simply cannot ignore the opportunity to do what's right for our community and require recycling collection as part of our commercial waste services one of the climate action task forces key recommendations for waste management is to increase person participation in residential and commercial composting to 75 percent of all homes and businesses by 2025 including a requirement that high organic waste businesses need to compost if we look around our metro area it is clear what needs to be done or Collins will require all businesses to have recycling services by 2021 and currently and currently requires all businesses to recycle cardboard and for grocery stores to compost boulder already requires all businesses to recycle and compost and additionally asks businesses to separate their own materials the president has been set for us by our neighbors and we need to step up to the plate as a community we are urging the city council to take a strong stance on this issue through an ordinance requiring all businesses to provide recycling and seize this opportunity to enact real reform in our commercial sector thank you for your time all right thank you all right next caller caller ending in 350 350 you should be able to unmute yourself good evening council my name is Jamie Ackerson and I live at 2529 mountain view out there are a couple more recommendations we're hoping you're also considered before hearing out our third priority longmont used to offer a hard to recycle day in partnership with boulder's eco cycle residents could bring their used or broken electronic items like printers computers tv's and microwaves in addition to clothing gym shoes books and other things this happened twice a year at the martin street center but it ended because it was so popular that cars were lined up on martin's in both directions causing safety concerns cost was also cited as the reason that it was suspended as well but these events were hugely successful in diverting waste now residents who want to do the right thing when disposing of these harder cycle materials must drive to eco cycle in boulder and this is not only inconvenient but it also wastes longmont residents gas time and money staff support mentions possibly extend expanding the martin street facility to accept more items but have said that this would likely involve a more move and probably to a less centralized location other options to reestablish this invaluable service might be to have more frequent events with design crowd control measures like designating who could attend by ward or trash pickup day better locations might be the fairgrounds or sanitation offices on airport the cost of partnering with eco cycle could be offset by a $10 card suggested donation perhaps eco cycle could also recruit from the 100 plus longmont eco leaders eco leader volunteers just like they did in the past to assist with directing vehicles unloading those vehicles and sorting materials to help maximize efficiency very similarly the city used to also offer a stop and drop twice a year which was an alternative to the free landfill drop off day rather than drive to eerie residents went to the facility on airport road where staff would unload vehicles and pull steel bikes stereos and many other recoverable items the resulting diversion percentages were incredibly impressive like the charm events these were also popular residents but they were discontinued due to back backed up traffic on airport road and costs so similar strategies mentioned for reinstating hardware cycle events could also apply for reinstating stop and job finally our subscription rates could use some minor tweaks to provide more financial incentive for people to take personal responsibility for the waste that they generate currently the monthly subscription for a 96 gallon trash containers $24 but if a household wants a second container they pay an additional 2160 but that's actually a 10 percent discount for producing twice as much trash some suggest larger families should receive a break on fees but we should we believe that trash should be regarded like any other volume based utility rate structure if you use more gas or water or electricity then you pay more thank you for your time for considering these recommendations in addition to our three priorities have a good evening thank you all right next caller next caller is caller 755 755 hello my name is jasmine walker and i live at 504 martin street just up the road from the waste diversion center that jamie was talking about tonight i'm going to speak about how long month measured up measures up with our neighboring communities i grew up in long months but i've lived in almost all the other cities in boulder county at some point in my life so i have direct experience with the actions taken in those communities to improve improve waste diversion it's no surprise that the city of boulder leaves the state when it comes to waste diversion households and businesses have a 50 percent city wide recycling rate boulder has seen a rapid increase of 70 17 percent in waste diversion thanks to the implementation of its universal zero waste ordinance before the ordinance boulders business sector was lagging behind and producing over twice as much trash as residents the ordinance requires that all businesses apartment complexes and homes get curbside recycling and compost collection this policy is helping boulder move towards its goal of 85 percent diversion and also addresses their climate action goals to reduce carbon pollution similarly louisville's overall diversion rate is 44 percent longmont is lagging behind at just 36 percent for residential and a mere 24 percent when the commercial sector is factored in sending two-thirds of our residential trash and 76 percent overall to the landfill is just not acceptable loveland the l town a little bit north of longmont has a 60 percent diversion rate loveland and longmont are some of the only cities in the state to have that to have municipal waste services but having these municipal waste services our subscription rates are more than 30 less than if we were to use for profit haulers when interviewed about loveland's diversion success tyler bandimer the solid waste superintendent indicated that when they developed their curbside compost and recycling program about 20 years ago they focused on providing an easy way to participate along with the pay as you throw program he explained but depending on how ardent residents are with their efforts they save money on their trash bills by selecting smaller trash containers i can personally attest to this in 2019 when i moved back to my hometown of longmont i was excited to be able to sign up to curbside compost collection and i acted for every other week trash service i have found that my bill is low even though we get the added benefit of curbside compost pickups my preference would be to offer a smaller compost container and an option for a once a month trash collection when a big portion of our waste goes into the compost bin not only is it better for the planet but you simply don't need the large and more costly garbage bins i'm glad to pay the same subscription rate to move to a once a month model but perhaps providing a bigger savings incentive would help move our diversion needle while rewarding residents who are less wasteful while we all know longmont has its own unique identity and we want to keep it that way we can touch up with our neighbors when it comes to improving waste diversion rates by adopting similar practices without having to reinvent the wheel let's set the necessary policies to improve our landfill diversion rates save resources and empower our residents thank you all right thank you all right next caller all right next caller is caller 452 452 good evening sherry malloy 2113 range bulane i'm speaking to our team's third priority again the first two are residential universal compost collection and required commercial recycling a third priority is significantly improving outreach and education efforts regarding waste reduction good ordinances needs to be paired with good outreach education and support to bring long on forward with more composting commercial recycling multi-family composting charm and stop and drop events residents will need to be well informed and well supported this must start with once again embracing the term zero waste zero waste is a set of principles focused on significant waste reduction the goal is for no trash to be sent to landfills incinerators or oceans a zero waste strategy needs to ensure everyone has access to tools to reduce reuse and recycle waste where they live work and play ordinances which result in changes to human behavior must have community buy-in to achieve success we have a world-renowned local community-based nonprofit who has been doing this work in boulder county for the last 45 years since 1976 eco cycle has been pushing the envelope to live up to their mission which reads quote transform society's throwaway ethic into environmentally responsible stewardship unquote long month's annotation any cycle work hand in hand for many years but that relationship has deteriorated over the last several years the rationale has been that long mount would address internally what eco cycle was doing with its unique improvement community engagement strategies while that is a rational and understandable approach it simply hasn't reproduced the results we need as Naomi said we're sending 76 percent of our waste to the landfill to be effective we need eco cycle eco cycle has the massive benefit of having already having done the heavy lifting of community outreach engagement education and empowerment regarding composting commercial recycling and multi-family outreach throughout boulder county and beyond with over 130 eco leaders in long month ready to help eco cycle can help move us closer to realizing our sustainability and climate action goal it's worth mentioning that it was eco cycle who was an incredible resource to myself and several other invested residents in organizing and lobbying a former city council to get our current curbside compost cat collection passed they know how to get it done and we need to get it done so let's get it done our eco zero waste apologies that that was a trip on my mouse all right sherry sherry call back in and we'll we'll give you the remainder of your time i'll admit her right now she's just in the waiting room i didn't hang up i just um give me just a sec here all right sherry are you with us sherry could you could you back up to the so sorry about that sherry could you back up to the beginning of your your last point where you said and third third rather there was a there was a you're starting a thought so go back to the the thought and start that again please to the thought no no no no what i mean is you we we dropped you you got pushed to the waiting i know i know just what i'm saying is don't pick up where you were go ahead of that i mean go back in time and start with a full thought so you're not just i see okay got it yeah okay all right so eco cycle knows how to get it done and we need to get it done they were an incredible resource to myself and several other investor residents in organizing having our former council to get our current curbside compost collection passed our zero waste team is committed to being a resource and will continue to do zero waste webinars for now and live programs when appropriate we are supporting svbsd student eco groups advocating for more green start schools in long months we're here to help we just need your leadership for not only good policy but also the right approach thank you all right thank you sherry all right next caller excellent thank you um caller 343 343 hey all right we all hit it caller 343 you can state your name and address for the record and you have three minutes okay hello my name is on a career i live on 205th avenue i'm a senior high school student and the president of walnut high school's environment club and i'm a final speaker on our zero waste team in the wake of dire warnings about the needs for immediate action on climate pollution and the equally alarming proliferation of plastic pollution in our oceans there has never been a more important time for us to double down on our commitment to protect our environment and build smart sustainable communities taking individual responsibility for waste diversion should be at the cornerstone of our commitment it is an accessible simple solution where everyone can and needs to participate people want to do the right thing it just needs to be convenient affordable and well supported by good outreach and education you have an important opportunity tonight to direct staff to work on design changes for our waste services that empower long residents to move the needle individually and collectively in the right direction to quote from the report in your council communication quote over the years city surveys have indicated that law month solid waste program is widely popular with residents law month community awareness for environmentally sound waste diversion options comes from a sense of community pride in doing the right thing it goes on to read discussions on options and programs with the community are always informed and well reasoned law month residents have continually expressed a strong willingness to pursue increasingly aggressive waste diversion techniques some resistance to program change can always be expected because solid waste programs are built upon customer habits which aren't always easy to change for that reason changes in the way services program are made only when they are built upon clear goals achievable objectives and reliable revenue projections end quote some of these clear goals we're hoping you will direct staff on include universal curbside composting required commercial recycling improving outreach and education more incentives regarding the fee structure and restoring the charm and stop and drop events to additional rather low hanging fruit for simple policy improvements include requiring zero waste for all city-sponsored events and requiring zero waste planning be included in permitting for use of public places I like to add while our group would love to go further with such things as suggesting a ban on single-use plastics and styrofoam prohibited prohibiting yard waste from residential trash we're being realistic with what we're asking for I'll end with a quote from South Council communication the benefits of recycling are unquestionable but any community seeking to reduce trash haul to landfills will need to consider programs that work on both sides of the equation solid waste recycling and solid waste reduction thank you for listening to all our remarks and especially for moving long forward to address the important issue all right thank you caller 795 is next 795 615 Lincoln street good evening city council and mayor my name is Tim Broderick I am the senior sustainability strategist focused on circular economy efforts within boulder county's office of sustainability climate action resiliency the 2019 boulder county waste composition study found that nearly two-thirds of materials sent to the landfill in boulder county could have been recovered recycling and composting these materials would have saved 245 000 tons of carbon emissions annually the equivalent of taking approximately 50 000 passenger cars off the road each year boulder county has a goal of zero waste or darn near by 2025 and is collaborating with municipalities to reach this milestone a part of that collaboration is supporting efforts by municipalities to take steps to require composting recycling at residential and commercial locations boulder county's office of sustainability climate action resiliency would likely publicly support any efforts moving towards zero waste ordinances by the city of long line through the 2020 boulder county zero waste scorecard we know that these policies have the highest impact on municipal solid waste diversion and greenhouse gas reduction if you have any questions regarding the scorecard or county circular economy programming please not hesitate to contact me thank you for your time and consideration of supporting future city program elements all right caller 209 209 you should be able to unmute yourself state your name and address for the record and you have three minutes thank you for allowing me the opportunity to be here my name is tracy whipple and I live at 19 western sky circle and i'm here to talk about my concerns with a proposed costo location like my neighbor who spoke a couple weeks ago i bought my home after consideration of the gravel operation east of martin street the gravel operation was not originally discussed disclosed by the builder so some people voiced their dismay i decided that short-term digging with mitigations was a temporary inconvenience for the long-term ponds and wetlands as described in urwin thomas development plan previous neighbors fought that plan but they were told it was a quote done deal obviously it wasn't a done deal and the city has changed their mind and decided a warehouse in our backyard is better for us than wetlands now i do support the idea of costco and affordable housing in longmont and i fully understand that this is beneficial in many ways but i do not think this proposed location is the best option and i'll offer some suggestions momentarily it was stated previously that costco stores do not have a negative impact on property values so i thought i'd test that theory i randomly selected five stores in the denver area superior sorton westminster arvada and littleton to compare homes right by the costco versus those in the neighborhood that comparison was not actually possible because none of these stores have single-family homes right by those warehouses maybe longmont planning department should review our criteria for zoning and make sure this is really what we want to do to a newly constructed neighborhood it's been stated that costco selected this location but of course that does not sound like the proud city ownership an internal locus of control that our city council has or should have for longmont in other words it is your decision not that of costco you can say no notwithstanding the moderate homes and harvest junction i don't think it's okay to locate affordable housing right next to a warehouse why would they want to live in the shadow of a massive warehouse do you want to live in such a shadow as a point of reference the nearest home and harvest junction is 634 feet to michael's whereas the proposed location of costco is only 126 feet to the watermark apartment and 380 feet to the nearest harvest junction home and it abuts the proposed affordable housing site thus far communication with council members has been about tall trees and landscaping as a barrier but there are better options that i'd like the city to consider for example could the costco be shifted east a bit allowing more room for green space between martin street and the costco or could the whole site be moved as far east as the side the walmart on 119 or somewhere in between like on the other side of the newly proposed road off of 119 the current location is not optimal for many existing residents which is probably why other cities nearby do not locate a costco adjacent to a neighborhood thank you for your time and i look forward to working with the city on an optimal solution in bringing costco to long gone right next next caller caller 255 caller 255 you should be able to unmute yourself caller 255 are you with us all right join you tonight good evening mayor bagley and members of longmont city council it's my pleasure to join you tonight to talk about my favorite topic zero waste my name is randy mormon and i'm the director of legislative and community campaigns at eco cycle as many do know eco cycle has been working with the city of longmont since 1984 with the launch of the drop-off center and curbside recycling collection one of the first in the country using volunteers and retired school buses we have come a long way and today according to our latest state of recycling and composting in colorado report longmont is ranked in the top 10 front-range municipalities for residents for recycling tiles tied at number four with lafayette a 36 percent diversion i want to recognize the hard work of the city staff the arata marker bob allen and charles coming years and getting us to this point by expanding and improving city recycling and composting services so how does the city of longmont get to be ranked in the top three what will what we have to do to have the biggest impact in both diversion and reducing greenhouse gas emissions well i have three recommendations for you one is expand the city's organic waste collection program approximately a third of our waste heads of landfills organic good waste and yard debris following other leading cities the next important step for longmont is to transition from a voluntary program to one that provides curbside compost collection to all its residents funneled as part of their waste services boulder county's plan to build an in-county compost facility will make such an expansion more economically feasible number two required businesses and multi-family complexes to recycle 66 of longmont's waste comes from the commercial sector and only 10 of that is now recycled requiring these businesses and multi-family complexes to recycle could divert nearly twice as many tons as residential programs and more specifically a universal zero waste ordinance similar to what boulder has levels the playing field for all businesses boulder citywide recycling rate has increased now 10 and the last four years as a result of his ordinance and number three require contractors to pay a recycling deposit that is returned once they show they have recycled valuable construction materials nearly a third of what boulder county sent to landfills is construction waste making it the single largest source of waste a construction and demolition recycling policy could have a big impact this is an exciting time for longmont to take the next step in zero waste as the state's front-range waste diversion fund or forward grant was launched this year and provide over 10 million dollars a year to front-range communities the city could apply for grants to pay for these new programs such as new compost carts we at eco cycle are ready to partner with the city on outreach and education to make these programs successful we also want to continue to work with the city to expand the eco cycle green star schools program the city's support is needed to maintain an active program in the 10 current schools and to expand the program to new schools we know the value of educating children and youth in zero waste and those same green star school students grow up to be recyclers and composters as adults i hope you consider these recommendations thank you for your time and work to make the city of longmont a leader in zero waste all right caller 722 caller 722 hello hi my name is manette mclean and i am the resident of longmont at sensory drive i just wanted to say quickly that um i listened to governor quomo talk about uh covid in new york and he he had a an interaction with someone who was just outraged uh at having to wear a mask and the requirement that he not allow anyone to celebrate his holiday with him and governor quomo said to the guy well i'll tell you what you go ahead and have as many people over to your houses you want to but if any of them get sick then you handle that don't bring him into our hospitals and infect our doctors and our our caregivers and of course the guy wasn't interested in doing that so it just made me think of what mayor bagley did and i just want to thank you for stepping up and i want to thank you for taking a stand on this issue i you just really um communicated all of our frustration at watching people not socially distance and wear their mask under their noses and um and realize how hard it is to go through this ourselves and how those kinds of folks are putting their own freedom above our community well welfare so thanks so much and with that i resign and thank you good night everybody you know george can stands it and just calling it calling a decade bye now just kidding all right all right uh next caller all right uh caller nine four nine nine four nine you should be able to unmute yourself hi this is ruby bowman i have comments about the riverside property 1512 left hand drive in long line city staff contends the riverside property is not a former landfill i do not think the issue has been resolved council should look further into the matter in my written comments to the planning and zoning commission for their february 19th hearing on the annexation i referred to page nine of the u.s army corps of engineer drap st range this feasibility report which identified the riverside property has a potential constraint in the study area because it was a former landfill site quote avoid landfill north of boston avenue and sunset adjacent to the st ring creek unquote i confirmed this with the army corps engineer official at the corps meeting in longmont on september 18 19 on 2019 the official told me the corps reviewed aerial photos of the property and it showed a lake or pond on the property the question in his mind was how did the lake get filled up there is no lake there now two hours before the planning and zoning hearing i received an email from the city planner stating the corps changed their mind about their landfill reference and would remove it from its final draft she wrote we will let the commission know as well tonight based on staff's emails i reviewed a public works employee contacted the army corps of engineers on the day of the planning and zoning hearing to get the landfill reference removed just because the corps removed it from its final report doesn't mean it invalidates the landfill issue i was given a copy of an aerial photo dated february 12 1976 by a longmont city official which shows a lake covering the entire riverside property the 64 million dollar question for council is how did the hole where the lake was located get filled up and what type of material was used to fill the lake i also came across a 1980 environmental health report by the boulder city county health department it was a complaint about illegal dumping on the riverside property there was a diagram on the complaint showing where cling fill and trash were deposited on the property another document i found is a 1976 letter to the state health department in which boulder city county health indicates quote rubble dumping has recently been initiated on unquote on what is now called the riverside property the landfill issue is still a viable one council should look further into the matter thank you thank you miss bowman how many collars do we have left three left mayor okay all right so caller ending in 479 479 you should be able to unmute yourself state your name and address for the record and you have three minutes caller 479 star six to unmute oh my name is michael hannon i met on 6495 grace way in broomfield i represent holly cook with respect to the request to use the quick silver road route as a transportation hauling route from the erwin thomas mine i already have previously written to several officials including mr herald domingas who i hope may have forwarded my letter on to the members of the council and first of all i'd like to congratulate mr mayor and all the other members of the council for being so concerned about the health of the area residents and this proposal certainly will affect the health of my client along quick silver road hopefully again as i say i don't want to have to read that letter into the record and that mr domingas will have forwarded it on and made it apart of tonight's record but i also want to point out one serious issue with respect to this requirement i mean to this application it is our opinion that miss cook never has received a legally required notice for this proposal and as such that we believe that this proposal really needs to go back in time to her being properly noticed so we can go forward there's no question we believe that such a proposal will seriously impact the value of a two million dollar project that she is proposing to build on this site and in addition to the negative impacts of the building itself there will also be negative impacts to the health of her family who she and most others actually suffer from asthma so anyway again i really hope that the letter will be made part of the record i've already forwarded back on to mr ratamaker who was also copied in again at the time back on october 8th of this objection and i've also contacted council for aggregate and advise council that we were willing to discuss issues with them it provided that she would talk about other possible alternatives but to date have never been contacted or had any response at this time i'd really like to thank council for its allowing me to speak before them and hope that they'll take seriously the items that have been already written into members of council both in both commission and boulder and to various staff members of the city of long line thank you for your attention all right okay next caller all right caller 602 caller 602 bingo hi my name is Heidi McIntyre i live at 1782 sunshine avenue good evening mr uh mayor bagley and city council as a concerned longtime citizen of long ma in the surrounding area your continued policies and reactions to covid 19 have compelled me to call in tonight in particular mayor bagley's behavior and comments and reactions to the weld county elected officials decisions regarding the covid 19 restrictions are both extremely embarrassing and disturbing as he mentioned in his follow-up statements on november 25th as elected officials you all take an oath to uphold the constitution of the united states colorado and local laws and yet fail to consider before speaking that the request to pursue an ordinance for denial of health care would not only cause every health worker in our city and county to violate their Hippocratic oath which includes protecting all life and to renounce self-interest in the treatment of patients but it also put local puts local residents in danger of not having critical access to health care i believe the weld county weld county response to the covid 19 restrictions as addressed by their commissioner in fact take into account the full picture for all of their residents including not only the physical health of their constituents but also the mental financial and future well-being which i believe is a major part of the picture you all are missing the city council's vision for long mot specifically states that long mot will be the world's greatest village where children are most fortunate to be born and raised elders are supported through their entire life journey and where people will have access to food shelter and everyone has the opportunity to thrive and feel they belong from my perspective your continued support of the extreme restrictions causing businesses to reduce capacity close and causing people to lose jobs is in direct conflict of this vision i would respectfully ask that you take a step back and view the forest instead of the proverbial trees i believe if you do so you will begin to better understand the unpopular stand that the weld county commissioners have decided to take and putting the overall best interest of their residents above the current fear of the covid virus in march the leadership said the end goal was to reduce the strain on the health facilities and flatten the curve nine months in i would ask you what is the real end goal considering the data published on colorado.gov all of colorado including weld and boulder county have the same one percent death rate of those that contract the virus this brings into question whether the stricter standards you all are choosing to follow is doing anything other than killing our businesses and future sustainability i sincerely hope you'll take this feedback to heart and look forward to seeing changes in your policies in the coming weeks thank you all right next caller all right caller 305 305 hi everyone my name is meghan arnold and i live at one western sky circle i'm also a member of the advisory board for the longmont museum i'm excited about the cost of development and very much in support of what it could be however i was surprised by how one side of the november 17 presentation appeared the plan as it was presented doesn't reflect the balanced visionary and responsible growth strategies i've come to expect and deeply appreciate about the city of longmont's leadership sustainable and equitable growth is the challenge of our generation and longmont is experiencing a profound moment in its history when this is attainable i'm surprised that there has been nothing shared by the city so far on its plans to balance the development with parks green space and investment schools or small businesses or in requirements for sustainable business practices i'm happy to see the development bring more affordable housing to longmont and doing so in conjunction with the costal warehouse but i am surprised that city council has not taken into consideration the benefits of a park or greenway that the benefits that would bring to those residents it shouldn't just be the wealthy residents who enjoy the greenway between the lows and the west side of harvest junctions this isn't the last time we will be discussing development along east ken pratt and i'd like to mention to all of us that sustainable growth isn't just about direct tax revenue parks and green space benefit the whole community and we all know how critical they are to both the actual and perceived value of that community the costal will be the first thing many people see when they enter longmont we have an opportunity to grow more equitably than boulder and more sustainably than fort and westminster longmont must continue to be a beautiful place to live not just a convenient place to shop or a prosperous place to work parks green space and sustainable equitable growth are not just vanity apps from residents they're an economic imperative and we have a chance in longmont to do this better and the cost of development is too impactful to ignore the vision long months residents have for their community thank you all right thank you is that it for public invite first call public invite and be heard that was all of our callers for first call all right great then uh let's go on to actually let's go ahead we do it okay can we get through the consent agenda before we take a break guys all right let's just do the consent agenda so we are going to go ahead and read it we're pulling d and i so let's go ahead and read the others mayor item nine a is ordinance 2020-65 a bill for an ordinance making additional appropriations for the expenses and liabilities of the city of longmont for the fiscal year beginning january 1st 2020 public hearing and second reading scheduled for december 15th 2020 nine b is ordinance 2020-66 a bill for an ordinance amending chapter 3.04.610 paid holidays designated of the longmont municipal code on personnel rules public hearing and second reading scheduled for december 15th 2020 nine c is ordinance 2020-67 a bill for an ordinance amending chapter 14.08 of the longmont municipal code by adding section 14.08.647 to allow for adjustment to wastewater billing for commercial and industrial use of cooling water public hearing and second reading scheduled for december 15th 2020 nine d is ordinance 2021-01 a bill for an ordinance conditionally approving the riverset annexation generally located north of boston avenue and east of sunset street and zoning the property mu e mixed use employment public hearing and second reading scheduled for january 12th 2021 nine e is ordinance 2020-69 a bill for an ordinance designated the james and francis wiggins house at 534 emory street as a local historic landmark public hearing and second reading scheduled for december 15th 2020 nine f is ordinance 2020-70 a bill for an ordinance authorizing the city of longmont to lease the real property known as vance brand municipal airport hanger parcel nh-t2 to klm o hanger gang llc public hearing and second reading scheduled for december 15th 2020 nine g is ordinance 2020-71 a bill for an ordinance repealing and reenacting chapter 11.04 of the longmont municipal code regarding the model traffic code and adopting the 2020 addition of the model traffic code for colorado by reference public hearing and second reading scheduled for december 15th 2020 nine h is resolution 2020-128 a resolution of the longmont city council approving the intergovernmental agreement between the city and the department of navy for a cooperation with civilian law enforcement officials agreement nine i was pulled from the agenda nine j has approved the 2021 city council meeting schedule all right uh calisbury martin um i move the consent agenda except for d and i calisbury christensen oh okay i was going to call i was going to pull d two so all right then we'll go ahead and take that as a second is that okay councilmember christensen all right so it's been moved by councilman martin seconded by councilmember christensen any debate on this obviously not because it's a consent agenda all right all in favor say i all right i oppose say nay all right the consent agenda passes unanimously let's go ahead so everybody who is currently listening to this live stream uh if you would please go ahead and call in now i don't care what ordinance on second reading you'd like to talk about go ahead and call in now so we will go ahead and take a three minute break and then when we come back we'll go through and we'd like to have you ready online listening to the live stream when we go ahead and open up each ordinance on second reading for public public hearing so go ahead and call in now please we'll take a three minute break we'll be back in three all right folks this is um public hearing time to call in for public hearing on any of these agenda items here once again dial the number on your screen enter the meeting id and please remember to mute the live stream when you call and listen to the instructions that are on your telephone and uh we will call you by the last three numbers of your telephone number at which point you will be able to speak all right everybody we all back all right we're all back let's go ahead and start with ordinance those under ordinances on second reading along with the public hearings we're going to go ahead with ten a ordinance 2020-59 a bill for administrative ordinance proving the grant of a deed of conservation conservation easement engrossed from the city of longmont to the longmont conservation district on the newbie farms open space property um councilmember christensen i move ordinance 2020-59 i'll second it let's go ahead and add the public hearing and then we're going to redo that motion if that's okay all right so let's go ahead and open the public hearing on ordinance 2020-59 all right so uh i believe it is star nine to raise your hand if any of our four callers on the line would like to speak on a please star nine to raise your hand anybody all right mayor i do not see anybody raising their hand all right we'll go ahead and close the public hearing we have a motion from councilmember christensen i seconded it we'll give the second to susie um any further debate on this issue all in favor say aye aye aye opposed say nay the motion carries unanimously ordinance item 10 b ordinance 2020-60 the bill for nornton's authorizing the city of longmont to lease the real property known as vance brand municipal airport hangar parcel h-14b the craig nelson let's go ahead and open the public hearing on ordinance 2020-60 hit star nine if you'd like to raise your hand anybody okay not seeing anybody let's go ahead and close the public hearing do we have a motion councilmember christensen i move ordinance 2020-60 second all right it's been moved by councilmember christensen second by dr waters all in favor of ordinance 2020-61 say aye all right it's like 2020-60 let's go aye still all right everybody all right nay all right ordinance 2020-60 passes unanimously ordinance 2020-61 item 10c bill for nornton's authorizing the city of longmont to lease the real property known as vance brand municipal airport hangar parcel h-dust-37 through robert singer let's go ahead and open the public hearing on ordinance 2020-61 all right seeing nobody let's go ahead and do a motion we're gonna go ahead and close the public hearing sorry motion councilmember martin yeah i'm assuming that was a motion right i said i moved 10c oh okay i'll second it all right any further discussion debate saying none all in favor say aye aye opposed say may all right ordinance 2020-61 passes unanimously let's go on to uh so i want to just flag anybody who wants to talk on this issue this is uh item 10d number one two three four five and six we're gonna have the public hearing all at the same time but then we're gonna go ahead and vote on these individually so we're gonna go ahead and wait about 60 seconds that if you want to talk on anything pertaining to item 10d the cosco economic development set up an associated agreement and purchase of nine acres for the development of affordable housing we would ask you to call in now darn nine to raise your hand if you wanted to speak on 10d anybody we have a couple of callers who have raised their hand for this all right why don't you go ahead and call them then pursuant to their last last four digits and we'll go from there great so caller ending in one three two you should be able to unmute yourself and uh you have three minutes caller one three two star six to unmute all right let's try caller four three zero caller four three zero you should be able to unmute and state your name and address for the record and you have three minutes i thank you for hearing me today my name is holly cook the address for me is one two five two five quick silver road um i am calling in tonight because i am highly opposed to the agreement for aggregate industries to use quick silver road as a shortcut um i do know that they were already approved to use um kenpratt highway which is much better equipped it has the correct infrastructure um i purchased uh three and a half acres on quick silver about a year ago um primarily because it was on a quiet unpaved country roads surrounded by farmland um that is predominantly county open space and as you can imagine the appeal of that was it's a quiet country location i am well into working with architects engineers um uh site plan review the whole process um and was accidentally informed of this potential for aggregate to use quick silver road quick silver road is not really even wide enough for two cars to pass each other it's not paced it's not rated for heavy weight traffic and i am very concerned about how it will affect my plans for my family home having my children on this road with hundreds of trucks on it every day um a couple of us have serious allergies and asthma so i'm looking at issues with dust being picked up all day i'm concerned about my teenage sons being you know learning to drive and being on this road with big heavy gravel trucks every day um i'm concerned about my only neighbor who has lived on this road for decades who are entering retirement age and love to be outside that's one of the things i'm looking forward to with this new home is being able to spend time in the peaceful outdoors which is the opposite of 300 gravel trucks every day passing my house i did hire an attorney um he called in earlier um i guess it wasn't the appropriate time i'm i think you might be calling back um and we have made multiple attempts to communicate a lot of concerns about this issue and tried to get some communication going um and really have been stone walled to be quite honest um there's nothing i can do with somebody who won't talk with me and try to work out some solutions um i have proposed alternate routes or suggestions and i really think that if aggregate was really concerned about environmental protection there are other mitigation measures they could take um and then possible other locations thank you for time good timing thank you all right next caller or public invited to be heard on tendy the cost of economic development incentive all right let's try caller 132 again are you able to unmute yourself caller 132 excellent hello you can state your name and address for the record and you have three minutes thank you very much my name is michael gundersen and i live on uh quick silver road one two three three five quick silver road and uh not used to going on virtual here but uh so please excuse me if i mess it up anyway uh it's an honor to talk to you uh people and uh i was told that back uh well six months ago from james uh i think it was michael thomas that came over and met with me and julie at our home and told us that uh we had the right to deny the uh use of aggregate industries using our road and as you know to drive 300 trucks down in a day to transport the dirt over to the other process and plant so we are greatly you know we're begging you not to use uh not to allow them to do this uh we haven't uh i'm kind of shocked because no one contacted me and this is um uh just heard about it but i i represent 100 of the people living on quick silver road and i represent probably most of the people that are using the bike path the wonderful bike path uh the city of uh longmont put in that goes to the sandstone ranch and you know me and my wife uh yeah i've been a member i've been a small businessman in in boulder and longmont for 50 years now so probably worked on every neighborhood there is in in boulder and working on working on many many neighborhoods in longmont too but anyway uh we just beg you not to uh approve this resolution to use our road to uh transport all that dirt it would not work for us you know i have asthma and my wife is uh she can't go nowhere because she has macular degeneration and have 300 trucks go down our road and we have 12 grandchildren that come over all the time and we wouldn't you know you would be destroying our family so anyway uh thank you so much for your time and i just uh hope you do the right thing and and uh but please let us know what's going on because no one's contacted us just like harley had called a little while ago no one's contacted us they offered to you know give us money and we didn't talk to the people because we you know we were told that we didn't you know have to uh sell out but they offered to put up a 10 foot fence in front of our house and maybe replace our windows but we don't want we just want to live here in peace and quiet and maybe uh i don't know i just thank you for your time and i'll let you get on you guys are wonderful that you put up with all these people talk on and i've uh never witnessed this before so anyway have a good evening and put a smile on your face thank you very much for your time bye thank you um so before we get going dale so my question is i recall an email saying that before we go through each of these ordinances i mean one of the questions i have for i don't want to start approving ordinances and they get to a point where we've approved something that we need they're all kind of together so i figure out now did we contact these people because i saw that we tried if they didn't respond and i'm not hearing that i who owns the road um what's going on uh do we have to let aggregate use it what's the consequences if we say no should we say no um because if they're the only people on this is a i just feel like we're about ready to bully a family that doesn't want this and it sounds like it's their road is that true so what i'm mayor bagley and mayor bagley members of council uh dale rada maker deputy city manager um i'll also offer to have jim instead the director of uh engineering speak to you as well uh jim was the city staff member who did talk with the gundersons um earlier this year um and then he had several attempted discussions with them following that um and as i recall uh from jim uh was was told and pretty much no uncertain terms um they didn't want to discuss it any further they they just didn't want it to happen and refuse to have any further discussions with the city staff on that matter um we simply um so so frankly it's very difficult to have a discussion with someone who who will not um have that discussion um secondly this is a boulder county um public road so it is not a private road it is a public road under the maintenance and care of boulder county which is why the iga is in front of the council this evening the city negotiated with boulder county on the various aspects of the intergovernmental agreement that is intended and to address and mitigate uh many of the potential issues that may impact the two adjacent private property owners things that are in the iga are things such as grading the roadway so that it is safe for truck traffic lowering the speed limit on the roadway putting in dust mitigation frequently to prevent dust and then uh putting up a traffic light a temporary traffic light at the intersection of quick silver road and 119th what's important i believe for us all to know is that the use of quick silver road has been the desire of the city for some time predating any issue with the cosco development uh and in fact we entered into discussions with boulder county as far back as 2018 on the issue the reason we believe it is the preferred route is that we believe the intersection of 119th and and kenpratt boulevard is a very dangerous intersection with very high speeds and high traffic volumes and when you have left turn movements being made as the trucks return back to the mine we believe that's an incredibly dangerous situation on top of that the quick silver route is by far the shortest route between a and b uh resulting in a significant reduction of greenhouse gas generation um which which we all know is is part of what we're all trying to do to be more sustainable in in in an operation and so we had months and months of discussions with boulder county on the matter the county also indicated that it was their desire that financial mitigation also be provided to the two private property owners that is included in the iga as well as the agreement between the city and aggregate industries uh it's a it's a sum of 180 000 to each of the property owners that was an amount that uh so we have come up with that amount so if they don't own the road boulder county is paying each of these property owners 180 000 what are they paying 180 000 for so boulder county is not paying it aggregate industries will be paying them 180 000 and i believe it was the um desire of boulder county to attempt additional mitigation for their county residents again the these two residents are outside of the city limits they are county residents and the county uh felt that was an appropriate step to take as well so and they they could use the road even if they didn't pay the 180 000 right um in my opinion the use of the public road um certainly is available without having to pay for instance it is not the practice of the city of longmont when we are doing construction activities or using uh any city street or public road to pay the adjacent neighbors to do that work or to use that public right away councilman martin yes thank you mayor bagley um i understood from the packet uh that uh this amount of compensation of 180 000 um was actually worked out uh as proper with one of the residents who then later changed their mind uh dale is that correct mayor bagley and councilmember martin that's correct we received an email from holly martin holly cook excuse me not martin holly cook um earlier this year uh stating that 180 000 um was um what was needed or adequate to fully mitigate the impacts of the road hauling on her and her project and her property so there was a letter saying no pay us 180 000 boulder county said i agree to pay it they paid it and we're here okay here bagley it hasn't been paid yet um my point is they're willing they're going to pay it if we proceed correct okay joan sorry councilmember back mayor if i might jump in for just a moment pardon me sorry we do have still a couple callers uh public comment on this item there's one more we have not closed the public okay just don't want to miss those thank you thank you councilmember peck oh my question about the 180 000 is there there is no non-disclosure agreement or uh agreement that they can never complain about this road again if they uh if they accept that money it's not a buyout is it mayor bagley and councilmember peck there is a requirement in the agreements that they would assign a waiver to not sue or take further litigation against aggregate the county or the city of longmont okay they can if there's issues and they're concerned with it they can still communicate because that's part of the agreement with the county is resolving those issues if they come into play in in it too so it doesn't eliminate them bringing issues to the attention of the county in the city oh good that's what i wanted to know to make sure that that they weren't just shut out completely thank you mayor pro tem did you raise your hand thank you very badly uh my question is uh before the the cosco project came online obviously we know this land was was slated to be mined uh was quirk silver considered to be the route at that point as well uh mayor bagley and and mayor pro tem rodriguez um what the haul route said on the approved mining plan that was approved by both boulder county as well as the state um it did not eliminate quik silver road but it did not designated as the route either what it said was that um truck traffic from the point where it enters 119th street could not go south it needed to go north and so um it did not limit it uh prevent quick silver however quick silver um currently has a weight weight limit on it from boulder county that is also being um removed as part of the agreement again between the city and the county that would then allow quick silver road to be a haul route so essentially it was not designated but was never fully say taken off the table of options correct and noting the what the city staff has said about efficiency of movement of the trucks that would likely have been explored anyway for the general uh mining operations that were to take place before we had changed before the uh cosco project came on board that that and to to be clear to dale's point back to 2018 we had been communicating with the county that we did not like the idea of putting 300 trucks at the intersection of 119 in camp rap because of the safety issues associated with it and what we've seen at other intersections in terms of wrecks at high speeds on those roads and so we we had been communicating with the council or with the county that we didn't like the idea of all the movements that were occurring at an unsignalized intersection okay so that brings me to a second point I guess in the sense that as we brought up objections to the use of highway 119 for these trucks that didn't necessarily mean that they weren't going to use highway 119 it's just that's the city's objection to it similar to this concept of the use of quick silver as these resident the residents as well as property owners object to it but cannot necessarily prohibit the use of the road similar as we probably couldn't prohibit trucks from using highway 119 we can just uh state objection and hope for a favorable decision is that accurate I believe that's correct mayor pertin all right that's it for now thank you all right let's continue then with the public invited sorry the public hearing on this matter how many more callers do we have mayor there's two callers give me just a moment here we are working on reviving our live stream okay looks like we're back online um caller ending in 479 479 you should be able to unmute yourself and state your name and address and you have three minutes yes I would like to beg councils yeah I like to beg councils uh uh pardon and that I may sir we're having a hard time hearing you again you begged our pardon and then you went away call our 479 can you unmute yourself again and give it another shot can you hear me we can hear you now go ahead okay thank you I like to beg councils pardon and I may have jumped the gun earlier in the first call michael hannon uh attorney 16495 grazeway brimfield colorado and I would like to add on uh to miss cook's statement uh sir we lost you again um what I'm going to do though you're feel you're free to continue to try try but um for the record I'm going to go ahead and make a note if you could put in the notes uh this particular caller I believe he made the comments during the the first call public invited to be heard did you make