be very um judicious in allowing things to be approved but I think that the answer to the question of whether it's temporary or not it's somewhat on a case by case basis does it make sense um if someone's using um you know for an accessory use uh a parking space out front in front of Antonio's well once um the winter comes it isn't going to make any sense anymore for them to continue to operate um a part of their restaurant out in that parking space but if someone has um redone the inside of their building in order to have a new restaurant that does make sense for them to continue um if the person who's redoing the inside of their building also has a patio um next to the building that he can use for seasonal outdoor dining well um you know probably that would be approved as part of his business operation um because it would be on private property and it wouldn't need any uh further approval from um the town manager so it really would be kind of um case by case and um so I think that's that's what I have to say yeah thank you Chris and I also just noticed in here on the draft it says that this is only for 180 days unless extended by action of the town council so it sounds like the town council would then have the power to extend this I don't know if they can tweak it but that's another question that I would love to know um so I see Michael and then David and then I see Janet Michael thank you three things first of all on I think this is a very good idea and I think we should move as quickly as we possibly can on it and I think we are doing that and I applaud that secondly I have total confidence in this breaststroke and Mr. Mora to make the decisions in lieu of the the long deliberations and torturous processes that this board frequently goes through uh they do indeed understand what the zoning bylaw says and will not make decisions just for the hell of it they'll make decisions based on the zoning bylaw and that's fine I'm perfectly confident that they'll be able to do that very well thirdly while I think this is a great thing that have happened very quickly I would hate to have see this being used as the precedent for the way in which this the planning board and the um um CRC operates on a permanent basis uh let us please not say that because this worked this emergency process worked it is the right process because it is not thank you David I agree with um the comments just expressed by Michael um I'm assuming that substantive comments about the proposed draft zoning bylaw are not relevant right now but but really just moving forward to that June 10 joint hearing um and that the time in between is when when we might be able to make some suggestions or some express that so that but but the but but giving the green light for endorsing flexibility to support the we um the the the the the the the recruitment the revitalization of of the town is is what's imperative um and then finally I just wonder given that the June 3 meeting sounds packed and given that the CRC folks are coming to the June 10 meeting I wonder whether that presentation might be pushed to be a a part of the June 10 meeting rather than being at rather than being added on to the June 3 meeting that's a matter of scheduling and I just put that out as a suggestion as a possibility um in in order to condense the June 3 meeting and to make more robust the June 10 meeting thank you may I say something sure I would appreciate hearing any substantive comments now um because I think the time that we have to deal with this is very short so if you do have substantive comments um please let me know and I will you know try to work on finding out whether they're legal um appropriate whatever but um there is time between now and June 10 to make appropriate changes to this and I wouldn't want us to get to June 10 and then be saying oh my goodness if we'd only known that ahead of time we would have checked with the town council and you know so if you have substantive changes that you want to let me know about uh please let me know may I follow up then follow up go ahead David Christine um you know these are just thoughts these are not proposals they're half baked again I think the the goal is the the the goal is what I want was I want to achieve I have I would like to encourage the reduction of any of of uh I mean this is outside of the planning board so let me just speak that in any way possible to enlarge the public's pedestrian space to enhance the possibility of social distancing to encourage greater commercial use of the space while maintaining safe safe public health uh parameters distancing um is is if there's any way to reduce the vehicular traffic in uh a circumscribed area as uh suggested by the the bid in an earlier presentation I would I would encourage that um a car free pedestrian only zone downtown sounds really attractive to me personally um in terms of the the the matter more within the purview I think I have concerns about personal care establishments in an enhanced outdoor space because I just don't know what that means again in public health in terms of public health I don't know about things flying that may be on to fly enough said on that okay I think that the the a third point the ability to since this is these will be decisions that are going going to be made quickly as appropriate I believe that building in an ability to review and update conditions on a regular or ongoing basis um would be important not to incur unpredictability or to to uh for the business owner but to be able to respond to all unintended consequences or unintended uh uh effects of these temporary measures that that that ability and then finally and I appreciate your allowing my long-windedness um the the issue about whether after 180 days a new use becomes in a you know a a permanent basis I think that that's an important issue to consider and to wrestle with however I think it also could be something of a red herring in that during those that those 180 days that the new use the new restaurant or the new establishment that's put into an otherwise vacant space will have an opportunity during that that that initial period to prepare its more proper and formal um application for per per per the the zoning bylaws as they exist prior to adoption potential adoption of this temporary measure I hope that that was clear enough and again I think that the the the goal and the effort is what's really important that and that all businesses should be given all signals that this would be going forward in order to try to um uh uh get us back on our feet thank you thank you um Janet and then after that this Maria so um I I would like to support what people are saying about the need to support our businesses and help them help the businesses in town get back on their feet um I've already sent an email to Chris with some of my comments so I'm actually going to go through them quickly but one of things I didn't send to Chris is I understand like the need for speed for waiving parking requirements and um for outdoor dining seating arrangements and on the public way I could see that as a priority that has to happen very quickly um you know to get to so people can capture summer summer business when they're able to um serve again um on the other hand I know summer is a slow time for Amherst businesses and there's probably not going to be a lot of camps and it's probably going to be slower than normal so I think that perhaps will buy some more time for a slower process for approving new businesses so I wonder if we can sort of tease out those two issues because um it seems like a new business can go through the usual process and I think the PB the planning board and the ZBA can prioritize these new businesses and expedite their own processes for approval and things like that so I do have this concern about approving new businesses or new uses and having regrets later um going to my hit list of changes I'd like to see in um the proposed by-law is yes to put a time limit on all the permits and required them to be renewed um that would give us a chance in six months to to go through the usual process see what's working you know maybe having outdoor dining was really hellish for the toy box or some other business and we can kind of revisit that and how it worked um maybe the new business there's something really odd about the way they're operating or or you know it's incongruous maybe it's a sex toy shop or something it's it's not all hopefully just restaurants downtown I'm not advocating for um that kind of business but I think that I think that requiring a renewal knowing that if they're complying it will just go through would give us time to sort of address problems in a slower way um I would eliminate the 10-day time limit for the inspector to act I think it's too fast I think that I trust the building inspector and Christine our planning director to go as quickly as possible but 10 days is pretty quick and things can come up like maybe the fire chief doesn't get back in time maybe someone takes a vacation to get sick and also you're required to approve a plan and a change that maybe you don't have support so I would say maybe a 15-day time limit knowing that your goal is to go faster you might get 10 applications for um outdoor dining and can't really sort them out in that time um maybe give the the applicants a choice of going through the regular procedures because it might go be faster going through the planning board um and then not to create a whole new set of application procedures and requirements I would I don't think our procedures for applications are they're actually seem very clear to me and um I sort of had this Guantanamo Bay issue where they didn't want to use you know when they were doing the um people they held there they didn't want to use the criminal federal criminal procedures and they didn't want to use the you know the the war crimes people or they didn't want to use the the procedures for war and they made it the third set of procedures and they've been arguing and litigating it ever since so I thought in a way it'd be faster just to use our current application procedures and you're all familiar with it and then I had a question about the notice to a butters and it sounds like there's no hearing and so how would butters or businesses and neighbors know that the application has been made that they can have some input and then even and they dislike the outcome to appeal like how did those notification requirements and participation requirements met in this informal procedure the other thing I just thought of as as Christine was talking is I don't really understand the status legally of an administrative approval versus a special permit and a permit for site plan review I don't know what if if it said well this was an administrative approval under a temporary thing like what's its legal status is there is it different from a regular permit so those are sort of my hit list thank you but I do very much support the need to help these businesses and I know we're all trying ourselves but we're probably not enough people and bringing more people to town without door seating and kind of fun stuff sounds fantastic thank you Maria sorry I thought someone's going to answer Janet um I think that we should definitely do this expedited process not go through normal hoops for this period of the social distancing and I think that as we reduce the social distancing businesses will be able to figure out how to get their normal sort of plan with the space they have my questions are more administrative Chris for you to ask as you're writing the bylaw what are the I know it says the uh our required application and submission requirements are temporarily suspended but then what is it is it a hand-drawn plan is it you can ignore providing lighting or traffic or parking like what is the I guess submission because if it's something that they are still going through the normal hoops of like hiring a civil or architect or interior designer or are you actually making the process like a very shortened um yeah I guess I just I'm not clear on what the submission requirements are so maybe if you're drafting that up later I'll see it but it just sounds like it was like everything was temporary suspended and I'm not sure what exactly you and Rob more would be reviewing but I don't need to know the details now but just to make sure that's clear and in the draft but yeah in the bylaw that you you come up with good thanks um Jack who are yep are you done Maria do you want me to try to answer these um questions and concerns now to the extent that I can I can go back and and review the things that Jen had asked about and also review what Maria asked about to the extent that I know what the answers are or not I think that's the point you're saying you only have an extent right now and all this hasn't been ironed out you're going to various people you're going to legal counsel like it's just like a normal article so I'm treating this like when we used to have pre-town meeting all the members are giving their questions and their concerns and you're scribbling madly so um we're hoping that when we see the next one come out and when this is presented because normally there'd be a little bit more time in the presenting but I'm sure CRC has a lot of the same questions that you all are asking to and town council will probably have the same questions if they're not answered so this is really good it's sort of like priming the pump for what Chris and Rob and Paul and everyone's going to have to deal with so um this is good this is really good to give her this this impact and this feedback so the only hand I see Jack right now do you have more to add to this Jack? Oh I'm uh totally you know behind expediting um provisions that you know allow businesses especially the restaurants to be able to capture some fraction of what they would normally be making during this pandemic um but I guess the question I have is uh we've been talking about downtown take a South Amherst example and I'm wondering how um you know businesses restaurants outside of the downtown would be able to take advantage of this say like a mission cantina that has you know limited space if they're going to keep the social distancing and using their parking lot and then maybe not having enough parking sort of thing what how does this work for the you know businesses and locations that are outside of the downtown area you know in concept does it does it does this work for them I guess is a question to to Chris um I Chris I mean if you want to answer but if just take it and then maybe he's got a good point that you know these there needs to be some examples I think when this comes back to us there needs to be a few examples of how different way like a few examples of how it would work so I think that gives everybody like a different view than just reading this you know legal memo kind of thing so what maybe what I'll try to do is um put together a list of the questions and comments that you've come up with and talk to the building commissioner and um try to get back to you with something in writing before june 10th now I didn't watch the CRC meeting um but they did they do something similar to this and ask a lot of questions to go be followed up on or I don't think they asked a lot of questions but there's been a lot that's been happening in the last 36 hours and I don't remember everything um so I'll go back and review what they what they asked I don't know if Janet was there at the CRC meeting yesterday I didn't go yesterday no okay well then if they didn't ask well this is great that you all gave all this feedback and questions to Chris because this is priming and getting ready so that um this stuff doesn't come up the last minute when we're trying to approve things so um thank you I see David and then Janet do you still have your hand up Janet or no yeah take it yes you do oh no it's gone um David you want to come back I just wanted to respond to jack's you know one of jack's questions which I think is you know it makes a lot of sense however it's not our job so for the mission cantina you know what their proposal is that's that's their proposal the the the this temporary this this action by the town if it were to take it enables them to make the proposal they make the proposal and then and then and it's authorizing whoever it authorizes the current draft is is the building commissioner or the planning director to review it and condition it approve it or not but it's it's on the it's on the it's on the business to go hey for us to to try to make this work given given the situation this is our proposal you know that's that's not on our I don't think that's on the town's um shoulders um it's it's for it's for the town to go that okay let's see how that works go for it you know save jobs make money save jobs that's that's just I just wanted to respond to that one point there thank you great and just to remind like um you know everyone's got good points go on here but part of this is business is asking to do business in the public way so they may propose something that takes up the whole way but then I am assuming that it will be Chris and Rob and Paul Buckleman who tweak it and sort of negotiate it out and then a final agreement is made so I think there's going to be so much of a case by case basis with this it's it's going to be a lot but at least we're doing our part with this and we'll get this moving and it'll come back to us um Chris I assume we will get like later drafts of this is it is it sort of cooks out before the 10th when we actually have to vote on it yep okay um I see one more hand Michael yeah it's important to remember based on uh Jack and and uh and David's comments uh this bylaw is not going to help every business in town there's some businesses that aren't going to be able to make use of outside work or public way or any of these other things uh some will but there may be some that won't and I think we can't worry well we can worry about and feel bad for those businesses that are in such a constrained physical location that they can't take advantage of this bylaw but there will be some that can't I think and that we have to acknowledge that it's so true this isn't going to fix everyone I was talking to um one of the hair salonists at hair by Harlow and was like oh could you ever make use of the outdoors or extra space because I was thinking of this and as they said they need power for hairdryers which has that blowing stuff David that you were talking about but you know they're they need water and they're using chemicals so they this won't really help them but you know it might help somebody else so we might as well try something so um Chris thank you for fine-tuning this and continuing to work on this um and if anybody has more comments they think of something in the next day can they send you an email yeah all right um I see Janet has her hand up and then we'll move on Janet we cannot hear you your mic is off I can try to well um my hand I kind of raised and it kept on lowering so I should just say that um I was at a bike store today and there were five people waiting to be served and there were three people I mean they made five sales with like two or three sales people just bringing things out and I began to wonder if a reduction in options actually would facilitate businesses but I do think it's it can be done and things can happen outside that usually happen inside um and then obviously space is needed um I I feel like this is such an important by-law and I I think it's a huge waiver and I want to really get it right and so I was hoping that maybe we I don't know what we've been talking about this schedule and I've kind of lost track of it but maybe to get more information on the different drafts and the answers to questions and put that on to our next um planning board meeting to discuss in a deeper way or just I just think this is so important it just seems more important than almost everything on our list so I don't want to change the schedule too many times but that's my plea that's not Chris so I just wanted to say that um you know it's it's really up to you with when you want to discuss 40R as far as I'm concerned 40R can be put on a sort of mid burner it doesn't need to be on the front burner I agree and that is something that you did have on the schedule for June 3rd so if you want to drop 40R to a different later date then you would potentially have more time to talk about um this topic on June 3rd I'm up for that Chris if if that's all right with others all we were going to be doing is just taking some more comments and looking we're we're not moving on anything with that so if that could get pushed a couple of weeks um that then we can open up a space to have the latest and greatest of this amendment come um article come to us and some discussion for questions being answered and if you're referring 40R consideration what could defer a little bit the responses to Chris about the 40R yep all right so we'll adjust that's uh agenda Chris later um and I see David I just want to again speak directly to the point bicycle stores are considered essential businesses today um understandably and in the past three days I've seen stories in you know the the the few publications that I still am stupid enough to read about how if you want to get a bicycle you're going to wait long in line and so it's creating a kind of panic to get your you know bicycle stuff and so it's great that the vice store is getting business and it's great that they're getting the business outside it's all those other ones that have been shuttered that and and all the other workers who we're trying who I think expediting this we're we're trying to um enable and that's all it's great that the bikes stores are getting the business but there has been these stories the past couple of days and they're essential and that's all thank you um so at this time I don't see any more hands so I am going to move on and I'm going to move on to item seven are there any a and r subdivision yes and we'll be able to show it to you um there is an interesting situation because it hasn't actually been filed with the town clerk yet but um yeah we we're having a little trouble getting things into our system it hasn't been filed with the town clerk and it hasn't been sent to jason skills town engineer so but the idea is it's a property that is colonial village and you're all familiar with colonial village so um if pam can get that up on the screen I think it was one of the last things in our packet yep there's a map can you can you see that i'm scrolling through the packet now I see you pam okay here we go again oh but that's nice too oh look at Dave you nice of you all right let's see I can hold it up it is in their packet it is so we all have it it's one of the last things in your packet and it's essentially colonial village owns a lot of property and um they have different parcels I think they have three or four different parcels and they're trying to um consolidate it into one parcel but they're also doing a little bit of a land swap with amir amir mcchi who owns property to the north of colonial village so there it is pam okay can you see it now excellent so we've put a yellow line around the outside of the proposed parcel um it's a little um daunting to try to figure it out but what I'm asking you to do is to authorize christine gray mullen to sign this as an a and r because yeah I'm not going to be able to show it to you in person if you wanted to look at it in person you could come and meet me in the parking lot behind town hall and I would show you the plan and I'd be happy to do that but this is the best we can do for now so you can see all the buildings in colonial village the road that goes sort of slant wise is belcher town road and the road that's at the bottom is southeast street um there are there is at least one parcel I think it's map 15 c lot 42 that is currently a separate parcel and that one would be combined into this bigger parcel you can see a little inset over to the left so you see map 15 c lot 42 right there um and that is going to be added into the the colonial village parcel it's already owned by them but they're just going to put it all together and then um and this is going to be a little hard to explain they're doing that land swap with with um amir they're um giving him a little wedge shaped piece up on the on the left hand side it says it's called lot two and it's kind of a skinny little piece so they're going to give that to amir it's in the inset can you see lot two over on the left hand side yes ham you can maybe see that and then um amir is giving them lot three and lot three is um the kind of wedge shaped piece down below ham can you put your mouse on lot three there um i haven't even found it yet so you tell me if i'm harder oh god how do i yeah oh little bit oh here's two yeah three there you go all right i couldn't find it so i do not three you can kind of and they're just doing a swap chris they're doing a swap you can see in the yellow there's a little a chunk out so lot two actually i said it backwards lot two is going to amir i think i said right and the wedge shaped piece is coming to colonial village there's so much yeah wedge shaped pieces right there with hamster arrow why why um i think that a colonial village has a desire to well they're going to do two things one is very small and the other one is pretty significant um the very small thing is that they're acquiring playground equipment from north village north village which has been um is going to be vacated and will be demolished and rebuilt so they're getting some playground equipment from north village and in addition that's the small thing they're going to do the big thing they're going to do is they're going to add buildings to this property here that's surrounded by yellow and that really hasn't they've just had a preliminary discussion with us about it and they will be refining their proposal and then coming back and talking to us it would be a zoning board of appeals application and before it goes to the zoning board you would have an opportunity to review it but that's that's what's being thought about here so again we don't have any proposal on it yet i don't have anything my office about it but they're talking about doing that and they do it's actually something that um i would say the town uh in the form of town hall um would support because it's an existing property that is a non-conforming use i'm i'm not exactly sure what zoning district this is but i think it's a residential zoning district so it's a non-conforming use and they'd been expanding the non-conforming use to add apartment units to a property that's already developed and that's what our master plan says our master plan says that we want to focus development in uh places that are already developed so but that as i said that's not really what's coming to you tonight what's coming to you tonight is this proposal to incorporate all of this land into one parcel and do that land swap with amir so it's also a lot four down below you see the lot four so i think they're going to be giving that little sliver of lot four right there it's just there yeah that will also go to amir okay um so questions on this uh janet i see your hand and dug i did see your hand but it's down now but janet i'm gonna lower my hand okay okay um okay so um at this point raise your hand if anyone has a problem with this and doesn't think i should sign this or they have another question i don't see any hands so um chris i i think we're good with this all right so you and i can make an appointment to um meet in the parking lot and get your signature and yep sounds good uh david your hand just popped out my hand did just pop up um what what is there any time sensitivity to this well i'll tell you what we received this application i'm gonna say it was a while ago it was probably a week or two ago and technically we have in the old world before covid-19 we would have had 21 days to review this um so the new world says that deadlines like that are what we called told meaning that they don't really exist during covid-19 um so if you wanted to wait till june 3rd to endorse this or think about it or whatever you could probably do that um i did tell tom reedy that i was going to bring this before you tonight but i don't think there's any big rush to do this probably two more weeks isn't going to kill anybody so tom reedy is representing whom tom reedy is representing alan kohn who owns the property alan owns this property and he owns presidential apartments and he may own other apartment complexes in amherst colonial village that is a village that's right so this is for colonial village to unite all their properties into one property and do a couple of those tiny little land swaps um david what would you want christ to bring back to us two weeks from now as the sort of the game changer for this uh i don't know i'm just i'm just thinking about and perplexing on a map here well let me make it a little bit easier for you um what an a and r is is approval not required uh it's a statement made by the planning board that this uh whatever is being proposed here does not require subdivision approval so subdivision approval usually involves um building a roadway and creating lots off the roadway and putting um utility infrastructure in the roadway and so in my mind that is not what is being proposed here so i think the statement that subdivision control law does not apply in this case and subdivision approval is not required is a reasonable statement to make that's why i'm comfortable with signing it um michael well i'm just gonna ask back uh or sorry david what the what the issue was why he was somewhat reluctant the problem with it to be honest with you no uh no in fact no i reluctant because i'm looking at this map with bad light in my my my third floor office here and and i'm trying to and and i think that that's a that's a an excellent explanation um how about this how about if um david meets me and outside of the town hall and i show him the map and we talk about it from a distance no actually actually i'm comfortable with it i just didn't want to um uh with just with with an extra three minutes uh because i'm slow or 10 minutes because i'm so slow you know just to be able to think about it and and rather than rubber stamp it but i i feel comfortable with it right i i do too um knowing what context is for so um if david's okay everyone's good chris we can make a time and i'll i'll sign this okay and i would do want to hear from the um town engineer pam's gotta put it into the system we'll hear from the town engineer so it probably won't get signed until sometime next week okay not okay with everybody yeah thank you thank you um we'll move on to uh item eight upcoming zba applications cam i had time to do that um i i'm not aware of anything new chris do we have new well i probably told you all about elsey federman wanting to convert her one family house to a two-family house a long time ago yeah i probably told you about valley cdc coming with 28 units and ponio village playground and 32 north prospect street building a deck so yeah i've heard about all those things already all right thank you uh item nine upcoming spps pr suv applications things i've already told you about all about learning and the common school paving okay um and uh item 10 is planning board committee and liaison reports i'm just gonna ask for a show of hands at this time if there's any hands that want to go up and report something um yes uh michael okay go ahead oh there it is um for the my eye yes uh for the um community for the design review board uh we uh last week reviewed the um kerry park proposal which we've already acted on tonight and this and approved the removal of the change in two signs on the uh bank north um no t bank on and for the community preservation act committee uh there is no report thank you um i don't see any other hands so at this time we'll move on report of chair um i don't have anything uh report of staff christ do you have anything i don't have anything right now no um then i'm just gonna cue you about a couple things one was um i'll do the easier one first we had talked the other day if you could ask um if pam could set up a doodle poll for the meetings to the summer for the planning board members to expect that um to so you know i know a lot of people probably not going away but some people do still go away so um and there is the possibility that if you have good wi-fi you could still zoom into the meeting so it's thinking about that can you attend the zoom meeting because the meetings will still be zoomed through the summer so um thank you pam and chris for sending that out this week um and the second thing chris was just michael during our break had brought up this um the gis you had this in our packet and he was just wondering i know it was a part of your master plan you know these are great gis maps and whether or not you know appendices you started to touch on it but i assume ben had been working on these yes ben was working on them and i think they're pretty self-explanatory if you read them they look sort of daunting when you just glance at them but um if you want me to i can quickly go through them um and if you have them in your hands uh you can look at them the first page is um indicative of the kinds of anomalies that we see where and he's taking uh different um years of the gis maps and comparing them to one another so if you look at the one on the far left um we're looking at echo hill which is exactly where i am right now because that's where i live um so in 1999 um echo hill was the the top one pam yeah this one right here that you've got yep that's good okay the one on the far left uh echo hill appeared to be bare like a desert and echo hill wasn't a bare desert in 1999 it had plenty of trees in fact i lived here then but it was shown as residential use so it was shown as all bare in the next slide we have 2005 mass gis just get where it is yeah i went to the right of the first one and that's um the 2005 rendition of uh echo hill and you can also see jenks street up there to the north and it makes it look like all of a sudden there were the trees grew like mad between 1999 and 2005 and that's obviously not true um so it's showing you know little pieces of yellow where the houses are and then the next slide over 2016 it makes it look like echo hill is in the middle of you know the national forest and so you can see the the problem we have in comparing years of maps if you compare 1999 to 2016 what is in yellow in 1999 is residential use and what's in yellow in 2016 is residential use so you would be under the impression that we had lost a lot of residential use in amherst and that we had gained a lot of forest land well the forest land and the residential use occupy the same place so we have to figure out how to explain this in our master plan update that um the information was characterized differently uh 20 years ago than it is today um but you know the place is the same it just appears completely differently in these maps so that's a conundrum that we're discussing with the IT department and our new fellow Ben who happens to be very knowledgeable about GIS that just gives you a sense of the kinds of things that we are wrestling with I think you can you know review these maps at your leisure they they're not that hard to figure out the later ones have a table next to them that explains what they're all about and the next time we talk about the master plan we can talk about some of these maps and tables so how's that is that good thank you I see michael's hand up the reason I asked the question was because I wasn't sure how they related master plan document are they supposed to be an appendix to section three or are they going to be incorporated in section three or what exactly is their ultimate use and also uh I I have a hard time I don't I have a pretty decent magnifying glass and even with that I can't read the text in the the the legend of the on the page so this is um part of a question I have for you uh initially I asked Ben and the IT department to fill me in on the information that's in the land use section of the by of the master plan where it says you know X number of acres are now agricultural land and this is an increase of 20 percent over 1999 I asked him for simple information like that so in order to get that simple information he went back and and looked at how the information was compiled back when the 2010 master plan came about and he realized that the information in the appendices was where he had to go to try to figure out how they got that information so he got really involved in looking at at the land use chapter in the appendices and trying to figure it out so that's where these maps came from so one of my questions to you is do you think that people are going to care about updating the appendices and I'm hoping that you'll say no and that what is important is the information that that we and my staff can glean out of it to put into the update such as how many acres are currently in conservation how many acres are currently in residential use so the the numbers that were in the original master plan in the text portion where we're comparing one thing and another is what we're really interested in and we don't really care about updating all of those appendices because I feel like that is a big project that's probably something that would require the help of a consultant to do they're probably not we don't have the staff to really do all that during this update so does that that yes that's that's exactly what I was thinking the maps are very interesting as as a as a study of maps but they don't provide any more information than is than we would otherwise come from the the current map and the information could be from the current map and I think the information in text form for this purpose is much more useful than the information in visual form okay good that's what I thank you and um oh no I don't see any more hands okay um great thank you for that chris all right so at that point I think we have adjournment do I hear a motion to adjourn so moved okay and I know someone's going to second it great um so thank you thank you Amherst media thank you planning board for all your time and hard work we're covering a lot of stuff so I'll see you on the third and remember chris will be sending out emails with lots of do things thank you thank you Pam and Stan and thank you Pam