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So, this is not here. There we go. Where's the music one? It's under friend. It's good. We're live. Okay, we're live. Hi, everybody. This is David Shepard. I'm coming to you from the Charleston Scottish games. Yes. Here on the river. Love it. I'm excited about seeing you guys here. I've got my. I've got my kilt almost boring, but I'm relaxed today. I'm not wearing all the goodies. I've got my spore in my belt. So I'm having a great time here with my wife and my daughter's son-in-law. And we are here to talk about collaboration on WikiTree. And we have a couple of questions that we're going to ask. And I'm going to just turn it over to the guys and let them learn with it. And I want to mention before we get started that whenever someone asked me about the best thing about WikiTree, there's a lot of great things about WikiTree. But one of the best things about WikiTree is collaboration. People working together to help each other do research to build family, family lines and to make connections. I think collaboration is the cat's meow for WikiTree. My first question for the crowd here is how has an individual helped you in collaborating in your research? So we'll start with David. So when I first joined WikiTree, I wasn't sure what I was getting into, but I started posting my tree. And my biggest brick wall had to do with the Her Line family from Philadelphia. The Her Lines were at the time some fairly prominent mythographers in Philadelphia. And I knew they came from Germany. I knew whereabouts in Germany. And I also know that there were some very famous artists from the same area in Germany, but I couldn't make the connection. I figured they had to be with a name like Her Line. They had to be connected. I don't know yet how or how to find out. So I posted a message on G2G and within 24 hours a gentleman from Germany and from Bavaria had gone down to his local archive and done the research and figured out how my family was connected to the German Her Lines. So this puzzle that I've had, this brick wall that I've had for decades, involved within 24 hours. And the thing was that this gentleman was actually from Germany. I've thought many times about hiring a genealogist from Germany to do the research, but that's expensive and you never know what you're going to get for your money. So I always put that off. I never got around to doing it. And wound up saving a whole lot of money because somebody just out of the kindness of his heart went and solved my brick wall for me. And I've been hooked on a wiki tree ever since. David, I think that everybody who has joined a wiki tree has come with brick walls that they've had for decades. So to get those broken down by the collaboration is really a great advance. Let's go down to Sandy. Sandy, tell us about how Nenegiul has helped you with your collaborating in your research. My situation is similar, but it's not as personal. I happened to work with the Southeast U.S. Mining Disasters Group, and I'm working on the coal miners that were in the disaster from West Virginia in particular. And I knew that there were a lot of different immigrants that came over there, but the ones that seem to be the most challenging for me are the Welch. I just cannot get through to their naming conventions and their town names and things like that. And oddly enough, I did a hangout and one of the hangout members that probably everybody knows is John Tyner was in there. And I happened to mention that I need some help with the Welch. And the next thing I know, on Discord, he came and said, what is it you need? I had three different Welch coal miners that had sadly died in the mining disaster. He took those names. I had them up on WikiTree, took those names as profiles, and within two days had connected them, had added their families, and had been going all the way back and giving me immigration dates and information. And it's the same with David. I could not pay for this type of genealogy research. It would just be so expensive. But I feel like because somebody was an immigrant, wasn't in the U.S. that long into dying in a disaster, I gave them a story now, all because of John. Otherwise, they were just going to be known as they died. So I've probably fed them my help from, I call them Iris John. Iris John, yeah, that's right. There were a lot of coal miners who left Wales and moved to Pennsylvania and West Virginia. Lots of them, lots of sellers in that area that were miners before and moved to the U.S. to mine. So yeah, it's very appropriate that somebody who can make those connections for you. Oops, sorry. That was a blown one last night. I have my balloons. Are we awake now? If not, we are now. That's a great story, Sandy. That really does show how collaboration works. Even in things like when you personally work on something that's not directly related to your family, even then, collaboration works for you. Emma, let's go to Emma and see what she has to share with us. So the thing that stands out, I've had a lot of help on a lot of brick walls and a lot of many, many things. But the thing that stood out the most was in 2017 when my grandfather was, he was just about to pass away. And part of the reason I got into genealogy was because of my grandmother who had done genealogy for as long as I can remember. And I wanted to give him more of his story before he passed away. And he had a Norwegian grandfather that we just have his name. We knew where he was born. We have his birthday, but that was it. We hadn't gone over the water with him. And I posted in G2G. I said, who can help me? I've never done Norwegian research before. I wasn't as experienced with genealogy back then. And Linda Crackett came on and she has a lot of experience with Norwegian genealogy. And before I knew it, she not only had his baptism record, which showed us he was born with a different name than what he used when he was in America, which that alone was exciting. He found out that he had a brother who also came over with him, but died so soon that he didn't know the census record. And then I would say he had several more generations because once you have a baptism record, and it gives the parents, and then you get those names and you get their marriage. You can keep going as far as the records until you run out of records. I'm still actually still going now that I know because she showed me how to read the records that I was looking at. So I have several more generations. I was able to tell my grandfather before he passed away, the information about his grandfather that they didn't know it was completely brand new. So it was a very, it was a very special, very, very special help. You know, it wasn't just adding to the tree. It was doing something special for Mike. Yes, that's right. You know, a lot of the things that I've learned since, you know, my grandparents died in the 1980s. There are things that I wish that I could share with them, especially those things that I've learned on week and treat with the help of other people. So with my grandmother, they would have just loved that kind of information. So it's great that you have the chance to share that on. It really is. Jenny, would you like to share with us how... Yes, very quickly, I'm going to say that Emma was a great help to me one time because I was struggling with doing DNA confirmation statements. We didn't have the out that we have now. And I've had a problem with someone over there. So Emma stuck and rescued me. And I've been forever grateful. I had a, now a former WikiTree member to step in. And I posted on in the G2G forum, my husband's family is all French except for the fields. They're Irish, but the rest of them are Acadians.  And I knew exactly where their marriage record was. But I didn't read French well enough to... When I got into the website, I couldn't figure out what was theirs. So I posted it on G2G, but I need some help with this. Can anybody look this up? I told them exactly where the website and exactly who I was looking for and the set of records and everything. It might have been an hour later. I not only had that, this person had put on there. He also gave me their baptismal records. He gave me their parents. He gave me their grandparents. He just kept going and kept going. It was post after post after post. And then finally he just went and added a couple of generations so that he could just post them to them. And I was back and got everything arranged. And it was just phenomenal. And then he turned those profiles over to me to be profiling. And he left wiki trees soon after that. Not because there was anything wrong. I think he just had other irons in the fire. But I was so overwhelmed and grateful for that help. It was just, I would never have gotten all of that on my own. Yeah. Anyone, do you want to share a quick one that someone's helped you with? I do. It's a little different. But my grandmother's line had always been a little bit slow working back. And I think I only had to like her grandfather.  And so then they created a wiki tree profile and made contact. And we ended up being third cousins. Oh, cool. Yeah. But he had some pieces of the puzzle. And I had some pieces of the puzzle. And so when we were able to connect, we were actually be able to go back a couple more generations, which is when we discovered that we were third cousins. I did. I think I worked on two of those. One of them was not solved, but left enough for me to do for the research. Another one was not only solved to be back two generations. And you know, in colonial North Carolina, it's really hard to, further back ago, the hard of those records are to track down. And believe it or not, it went to my website. Solved it. I was working on this particular profile. And I was able to carry records on it. It's not true always. And you have somebody who has some real expertise in another area. And of course, when people do help you out, things like that. I mentioned another one was, several of you mentioned hosting the G2G, the whole German immigrants. And so I posted, I posted one day, so I was able to decide for that. It was a really good picture. It was able to give me a translation that helped immensely with that family. So willing to, to... You know, we can't understand you. The wind's too bad. Not really. Is that better? A little bit better. A little bit better. Okay. I'll just talk really loud. See if that'll help. There's no place to get out of the wind here. So I'll just, I'll just have to try my best. Okay. That's better. Okay. Good. One of the things we wanted to also talk about is how project work has helped with your personal research or how you have helped somebody else within a project to do their work. So we'll just go back to the same round again and see how that goes. If you have something to share, move it. Move along with it. And if you don't, then move to the next person. So let's start with David. Let's see what he has to say. So what I wanted to talk about, we have a whole lot of projects on, on WikiTree. But what I wanted to let people know about it, if they're not familiar with it already, is how to use free space pages to create their own projects. Right. That's something that I really enjoy doing. I'm a member of the Notables Project. And what we do is we try to connect famous people from all time periods and all fields, get them connected to the tree. Just just something kind of fun to do, a break from our own family trees. But I've started a couple of mini projects. I'm very fascinated with early entertainment people. So silent film stars, and I decided in my first free space page, I did the cast of the Disney film Snow White. And when I did, I created a free space page. I listed all of the cast members with a link to their profile. Those that didn't have profiles, I created the profile for and then opened it up on G2G. Told people come on over and let's see if we can get these people connected. Since then, we've expanded that to the classic Disney project. And we have, I think, 18 Disney films now that we've connected on the cast score. If people aren't interested in working on trees outside of their own, well, we can still use those free space pages to create mini projects. I'm working on one right now. I have the diary of one of my ancestors. And I've gone through and I've listed all the people that he's mentioned in the town that he lived in. And I'm going to go through kind of doing that cluster genealogy or they call it the fan club genealogy where you check out the neighbors and the pastor and the doctor and those people that are mentioned. So I just listed everybody that's, they're all from the same town, from the same time period. List everybody, get links to their pages, create pages if they don't have them. And then another one that I'd like to work on is I have a photograph of my grandfather's World War II unit. It's got about 25 people. And he's written their names on the back of the, on the page. But I have no idea who any of these people are. So I'm going to list that and see if anybody recognizes anybody and make some connections and see if we can do that. So if you've got any kind of research that you want to do outside just your straight family line, you'll go ahead and set up your space page, announce it on G2G and see what kind of help you can get. That is a great idea. And I'm probably going to be speaking, I'm thinking of photographs that I have that have names written in the back because my grandfather's really good at that. And that would be something that I could really get into. A particular picture that my grandfather had was when he was in what was called the Mount Holly Band. And this was back in the early 19-teens, maybe even earlier than that, maybe 1909. But he had a picture and he's got nearly all of the band members listed on the back. And I think that would be a great project. Yeah. A family reunion. If you've got a yearbook, you've got any number of things that don't, again, don't quite fit into your own family tree. Yeah, right, right. Yeah. Well, I've got a lot of that stuff, so maybe that's something I really need to work on. That would really help out a lot. Yeah, I just wanted to say that David, and especially the Disney project, is a really good example of you don't have to wait for the team or for the leaders to do something that you're interested in. Like, he had this idea. He wanted to do it. And so he started it, asked it to people to help. And it turned into a really cool little, but not even little, like it's a pretty cool project that people got involved in. And so, like, don't feel like you have to wait for us to do something, like, run with it. It's great. Yeah, and initially that was my hesitation. I thought, am I supposed to get this approved by somebody? And I just decided maybe three says ever just go for it. So I went for it. That's what free space projects are for. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great idea. Great idea. I hope more people will pick up on that and do that kind of work. That's great. Sandy, let's go to you. And really quick, I want to just congratulate David on a specific page that I refer people to a lot on your Disney project.  I'm glad you found that. I have found it, and I have shared it. So for those of you out there, go to his Disney project page and he has a great link at what makes a great profile. And I find that a lot of the people that are new to Wiki Tree love that page as well. I always try and share it. As far as a project collaborate, I always tell people if you have a special interest or topic, join the project, join them and don't be shy. Go full in. Go into the emails that they send. Go into the discord and just chat. Ask, you know, if you need help or if you need anything. I think the reason why I love the projects that I'm in so much is I like the topical ones that the side projects, like you said, the free state free space pages. I really enjoy working on the research of people that I might not normally know and come to find out because of all the October issue, fabulous conditions. I now find that people I thought I had no clue that they were even related to me are like second or third cousins now all because I started working on some topical project. It is funny because a lot of us will see something on TV, a TV show or somebody passed away or there's a show on PBS about, you know, the province of Georgia, for example, in the Southern colonies and we'll start working those lists of people and we find out, wow, this collaboration not only amongst our project groups and we all join together to research, but we're related. Somehow we're related because we have these tools now that tell us on each profile that we're related. I just can't say enough for each project and I've worked heavily in Emma's project. I just can't say enough to how much people and projects will dump in. All you got to do is say help or can you look at this? I need another eye or do you think that... I have become, you know, virtual friends with these people. I trust their opinions and I've become really, really good friends with the collaboration. I trust what, if they say, that looks great or you need help or you need to work, I trust it. So I really love the collaboration of the people on topical and in particular topics. Right, right. Emma, let's go to you. Well, first I have to say there's so many projects, like where do you even begin? When I first came to Wakey Tree, I joined all the projects. It was like being a kid in a candy store and I wanted to do it all and then as I got more responsibility, I had to start backing out because I was like, I can't keep up. I can't keep up. But they're all so amazing and there's so much fun. I think it's a fun party to be in a project. And I'm glad that David brought up the idea that you can start a project if one doesn't exist. I remember several years ago, I went into G2G and I said, oh my gosh, why don't we have a France project? Like that's a major important country, especially for all of us who are Quebec law and our roots come from France and Abby came in and said, well, why don't you start it? And I was like, really? Okay. And so I did and then two other people came on and started helping me get it started and I was able to hand that off to people in France and now it's a full-blown project. So it has to start somewhere and why not with you? So David, I think your Disney project is amazing. I love watching your posts. Oh, thank you. It's so much fun. But close to my heart, of course, is the US Black Heritage Project. We have the most amazing collaboration that has been within that project. And it's like being in a room where you raise your hand and say, I've got this going on. Who can help me? And someone's immediately raising their hand and saying, I have an answer for that. I'm trying to solve this research problem. Who's got a source for me? Someone pops in and says they have a source. Or where do I look for this? How do I solve this? And it's almost, it's so fast that people come in and give answers to everybody else. And also just the crowd sourcing is the best word I can think of. We have the most friends or work days where we want to accomplish, you know, let's finish this set of records together. We just had one last weekend in two cemeteries in Fairfax County, Virginia. And I thought, OK, by the end of the weekend, I think we'll have this done. I'm very confident. In half the time we had allotted, we were done. I was just like, my mind was blown. And then people went on and added more family to the people who were late to rest from the cemetery that we had created profiles for. So we ended up with hundreds of additional profiles by the end of the weekend. And I was just, I was just so emotional. I was like, this is what happens when motivated people get together and help each other out on a shared project. And we do it every day in the US Black Heritage Program. It's such a positive environment to be in when you're working with other people on a shared goal. It's so uplifting. It's so exciting. And if you're not in a project, join a project. You will not regret it. That's correct. Yes. OK, Jenny, let's go to you. Well, I'm a member of several projects, but one that I was kind of, I guess, a little bit early on, I had been a member for a few years, but nestled under the United States Project is the Southern Pioneer Project. And since all of my family, both sides, are Southerners, I had some people who qualified for the Pioneer Trail. And so I joined it and I asked, you know, OK, what do I need to do? And I got help from a couple of people there. One was Lynette Jester. She's the one that reviewed one of my trails. And she was very good. And it made me take a look. I had these ancestors. I knew who they were. I'd worked on them on other venues and as well as I had them in WikiTree by that time. But it made me take another look at them and make sure that I had sources on there that connected each one to the previous generation. And sometimes it gets a little difficult when you get back there. You might not. There's census records don't list children, so you kind of have to have something else. And so anyway, it made me take a really close look at those profiles and bring them up completely to speed and now they have the trail posted on their profiles. And I went on and I did another one also, another trail. So I was pretty proud of that. And I had a lot of help from the project for that. And I don't know how active that project is right now because those were the only trails I could actually do at the time. And I haven't checked back in to see if they're still doing that. But it was fun and it was rewarding. And the project was a huge help. The people in the project were a huge help. Yeah. That's great. I would like to mention a couple of types of projects that people don't normally think about. But some of the functional project require a lot of collaboration. I've been a greeter for about four years now. And it requires a tremendous amount of collaboration for us to work together. Even if we're working alone, we can always depend on other people being crowned somewhere to help us make sure that we're able to functionally do what we need to do as greeters. Often we will have spammers trying to come in and it takes a collaborative effort to make sure that they really are spammers and not somebody who's legit and to take care of that kind of business. I see this also work that way in the Rangers project where we are looking for people who might be doing damage to the tree and that requires a lot of communication too. So even the functional projects that help with the structure of wiki tree and the smooth running of wiki tree that requires a lot of collaboration too. So we've got some great examples here of that type of work. A.M., would you like to share something about a project that you have worked with? Oh my gosh. Which project haven't I worked with? I would just say the exact same thing. What project have you not been a part of? I was just saying last night in the Australia project presentation that I didn't have a reason to join that and then I remembered that my husband is half Australian. So his mom was born there. So I could join that one too if I wanted. I think I have a soft spot for the ones Pip was just talking about because I was usually like kind of in the beginning stages of most of the developing of them and have watched them really grow over the years. You know, the ones where they really get to interact the greeters and the mentors and they're just so helpful. Every project is helpful but we have like an appreciation project where they go around just thanking people for doing things and recognizing and I think that helps contribute to the friendly community that we have. The ones that work with our, we have the conflict escalation process when unfortunately we have conflict and the projects that are involved with that and helping resolve the conflicts and hopefully most of the time stopping things before it gets too easy and helping people get back in and be successful on wiki tree. I love those. And then the Titanic one, it was kind of like Emma, I had just been a grader. I was pretty new to wiki tree still. And I was asking one of the grader leaders like, can you just start a Titanic project? And she was like, you can start a Titanic project. And I was like, I can do that. And then it's funny because like the next week I got an invitation to be a leader. So then I got to lead the Titanic project, which has since moved into very capable hands. But I was also going to say, you know, we do the member of the week features where we interview different members. And one of the things we ask is what advice do you have for new members? And I would say that nine out of 10 of them say join a project because it's how you can connect to the community. Like when I first joined wiki tree, there were projects and there was the community, but I didn't know it because, you know, it was all I saw was my tree. I didn't know how to get involved. And so I didn't get involved for about a year until I came back and realized, holy cow, there's this whole thing going on here. So the sooner you get into a project, the sooner you find that community and the support. And it just helps you be more successful on wiki tree and make friends. Like I think it was Sandy that said virtual friends. It's great. Can I add something about the mentor project? People that are brand new. If you are just feeling overwhelmed, there's so much to do on wiki tree. And it's very different than a lot of other, your websites like ancestry and family search. If you're just feeling overwhelmed and trying to get started and you need assistance, you can go on and request a mentor and we will send you somebody who will just take you by the hand and walk you through every step of the way. We can help you just with general questions or we can help you with getting your profile set up, getting family tree connected. Whatever it is you need, we'll get somebody to walk you through one-on-one and help you out with that. So it isn't just for advanced people ready to move on to the next step, wanting to join projects, but people that have no idea what they're doing can ask for help and we'll get it for you. I keep, like this whole weekend, I keep thinking of that slogan from Harry Potter. The help is always available at Hogwarts for those who ask for it. It keeps coming up about how helpful our members are. Help is always available at wiki tree if you ask for it. Yeah, that's exactly right. I'll tell you one of the most interesting things being a part of a functional project, the greeters visit. Every once in a while, someone who has been a guest member for ages will finally join. And there have been twice that I have, on my greetings, that I have met someone and upgraded, that A1 was the one who greeted them in 2012 or 13. So this is way back. A1 has been here a long time. Yeah, I've run into that too, A1 greeting where somebody was greeted years ago and then they come back and join. It's always great to see those people come back too. It really is. I'll tell you another thing that helps in a smaller way with collaboration in the greeters project is sometimes someone will ask for help about GEDCOMs, about DNA, about how do I find, and we have become specialists at being able to send certain kinds of help pages to those people to help them out. And once in a while, if someone asks me a direct question about genealogy, which I'm not required in the greeters project to help with, sometimes I'll be able to find something just only real quick to help them get started with some good stuff. I did this the other day with someone who had Puerto Rican ancestry from their ancestor in the 1920 census there. So it was a good start for them. So that's always a lot of work. It really is. One of the things that we use in collaboration, aside from Google groups and G2G and even private messages, is our Discord channel. I noticed that... Yep, I sure did. I will greet you, that's right. We use Discord for instant communication. A lot of times in Google groups, it depends on who's watching their email or online. But if you're online and in a Discord group, it can be instantaneous collaboration. I've noticed in particular in several projects, maybe I should say particularly in the Appalachian project, the Appalachian project has a very busy Discord channel where a lot of collaboration goes on constantly, from early in the morning until late at night. So I know some of you are also on Discord and are able to work in certain projects or even with individuals. I'd like you to share a little bit about your experiences with Discord and collaboration. Who wants to jump in first? I'll jump in first. I love Discord. I'm so glad it became... I was very reluctant to use it at first because I'm not on social media much. But once I got started with it, I was hooked because I'm a very, very chatty person and the fact that I can chat with people while I'm working, the fact I can... And I'm also impatient. So I want an answer now if I can get an answer now. So I can go into the general chat and just tag it for whatever country or topic I'm working on and say... Bye. ...with this. And it's been amazing because recently I was trying to solve a serious problem and I posted, I said, who can tell me what county I'm looking for? I'm not finding the census record. And somebody came on and said, those were burned, so you're not going to find it. And that saved me hours of work trying to look for this thing that didn't exist. So yeah, if you're not on Discord, I highly recommend it because not only will you get the real-time help, but it's just a lot of fun to be able to talk to people, collaborate with people, get to know people better. It's a great place to just... Because there's channels where you can just chat about whatever you want to chat about. And it's a great way to get to know people. Well, I'll tell you one of the great things about Discord is that even within a project, you can have several channels. And so you may have one where you just kind of do some general chatting and it's allowed you to do some more personal stuff and laughing about this and that. You can have the help-needed, category-needed research-assisting channels even within the same project. So it's not like you have just one channel for the project. You have actually several within the one. And it allows for you to be more targeted in your messaging when you need help with something or when you just want to share something. Sandy knows when I'm talking about that Appalachia project, the boomer of a Discord gel. Would you like to share a little bit about that, Sandy? It is. And I think that what is interesting about ours is we kind of tried it to stay in our lane, meaning that we know the area. So when we ask for help on one of our city searchers that are so really good, they will go and search everywhere to try and find an answer when a lot of times, if you're a wiki-trigger and you can't find something, you might give up on that profile or you might give up on trying to find that information. But like Emma said, I need it instant.  Give me the answer or tell me. I'll take it. I'm researching it. We have people actually fight over creating cemetery categories for us. We have people that fight over. I'll take this. I'll research it. I'll research it. And I love it because it just gives us, again, that other eye. But there are so many people who would give up on a profile. They can't figure out the research or don't know where to go. And there are some tough areas to research. And I just love that people will dig in and do it. And I think like Emma said too, not everybody has a great day. We don't. We have good days and bad days. And we accept that in Discord channels and somebody comes in and they're frustrated or they were somewhere else and somebody attached the wrong kid to the wrong parent on a different platform. We listen and we help and then we dig in and we try to help. I will tell you that one of the most fun things in our Discord is helping people CC7 go up. We will crowd it. We will jump on somebody. They say it's too low.  Hey, Stanley. Do you want to real quick tell people that don't know what a CC7 is? Oh, so the CC7 especially if you go to your profile you will see it says connections. You see your name and it tells you how many contributions you've done and then over on the right a little line that says connections and if you click on that what you're basically doing is you're seeing how many people in WikiTree you're connected to, to your 7th generation and I will tell you that it goes out a little bit further than that. I won't go into too much detail with it because I could talk about this all day but the goal is to keep adding profiles and other people keep adding profiles to connect so your CC7 number, your connection number to you keeps rising and I don't know who has the highest but it's something like over 10,000 oh yeah so once you add your ancestors your grandparents then you can add your grandparents brothers and sisters and you keep doing that as you go up the one of the biggest tricks that we found in heart group add like I add all my brothers ex-wives families because we're connected I won't tell you which brother if he's watching he knows but even going out to that level so think about it not just straight back to your ancestors being out Patty's the most connected and I think she was on the chat earlier she has over 19,000 and it's because she brings in she brings in lots of cousins to WikiTree and helps them get their tree filled out and get them connected to herself so yeah she works she's an Appalachian too, she's a project member she's in my character's project too there we go my CC7 jumped up when I started working on my cousin John's mother's family my Aunt Francis who was married into the family and I did her work my CC7 shot up it's still in the 4,000 but even doing these little branches like that I'm just doing the work on both of my sons-in-law their family's one here from South Carolina one from Puerto Rico one from Cully my CC7 shot up on those two so even though we're outside connections like that I have an individual I'm working on right now it's a very similar story and he is from Brazil only child came to America has no descendants no brothers and sisters and I have no idea how to do Brazilian research but we found out that he had a wife for one year and brothers and sisters so we haven't made the connection yet but we suddenly have this whole door of brothers and sisters open hopefully we'll be able to make a match but that fact that he was married for that one year it may get him connected to the tree every little connection will help even just for one of your marriages sure will yeah can I finish my little thing here about collaboration please do I don't remember when this was I'd have to look back on it but it was several years ago I had gotten into WikiTree and it was such a breath of fresh air and finally I wrote something and put it on G2G as a matter of fact I think I'm going to put something new on it and see if that'll bump it back up where people can read it because I think it has a lot of relevance to everything we're talking about this weekend and I just said that I had been engaged in family research for decades and I'm older than I look evidently because I am pushing 80 I will tell you that and I first became interested during high school and I was interested in all of that and then I said it was a lonely hobby because you did it by yourself you went to the library, you sat and read all these books and all this microfilm and everything and other than writing letters if you could find somebody to write them to and then try to trip the postman when he came by so he would leave that was about the only thing we could do and then I said here came the internet email websites and that wasn't all that long ago relatively speaking and it was still somewhat of a solitary venture because how many times do you actually get an answer from somebody from another website these days and I said then then came along WikiTree and it was a bit intimidating right at first I just barely stuck my toes in the water and I was a little intimidated to ask any questions and then I started reading the forum I would just read it the questions and the answers and then one day I knew the answer to something and I thought oh okay and I answered it and I was off and running after that um I had to get some help with sourcing but I printed out the pages and I put them beside me now I was a library science and English major so I know about citations uh but I put that paper beside me and I started sourcing and I tried it both ways and finally I got it because I wanted to do inline sourcing and once I got it it was easy I said now I'm addicted a fabulous addiction um asking questions learning things and I likened the experience to the spy who came in from the cold substitute genealogist because it was I found that it was such a warm and collaborative community and you do get to know people I've gotten to know so many people through the greeters, through the GDG forum through helping people and having them help me and I there's just not another website for genealogy like it I agree thank you for sharing that thank you all for coming on we have a few last words here we have just a few minutes left we got a party to get to we got a party to get to that's right that's right this is party time I want you to know that I'm parked right behind the whiskey tent we'll have one for us guys have a great day thank you all for joining with me today thank you all who came online to watch and it has been a wonderful experience for all of us I'm sure you all take care God bless you all take care and have a great day thank you


Welcome to Jalassette News to get top stories and crypto currency in Jalassette's and break them down into bite-sized pieces today. We've got a pretty full day. First up we're going to talk about what happened yesterday in our second part of the Micro Strategy World Now seminar. So I'm going to talk about the second half of what was going on leading into today where we're going to have people coming in and talking to all the corporations such as Binance and Gemini and Coinbase. So that'll be interesting. So take a look at a report that small and medium hodlers control 40% of the Bitcoin supply-assist data. And this kind of blows the whole theory out of the water that everything is centralized and is in the hands of just a few whales. We're going to take a look at some data that shows positively that that doesn't happen. And lastly take a look at PayPal Q4 transaction revenue rose almost 12% in the first quarter report since adding crypto. So as you remember, PayPal just came on at the end of November early December of 2020 and they haven't even gotten into Venmo and some other big markets like outside the US. So this is the interesting stuff to take a look at. And we'll do all that today. But first let's take a look at what's going on in the markets up today. It is, what is it? February 4th, 8.40 AM, El Paso, Texas time. And here's what we got. Not too much of big play in the top five or so. XRP is up 6%. Great. But sure, 36.5 for Bitcoin, Binance Coin 4%. But look at Doge, another pump of 50%. And I don't know if it's because of what this was actually on my Twitter feed.  Good for all you Doge holders. I still don't understand it. But okay. Let's see what else we got. 33% for Ave. Looks pretty good. Eos. I don't really care about Eos. And then Uma, 135% up. I don't know if there's a new partnership being announced for that DeFi project, but that'll be interesting to see. Compounds also have 20%. Sushi have 7%. So you see a lot of things that are going on with the DeFi space. Which is pretty good. But if you may have noticed, we're using Trade the Chain. What this is, it does sentiment analysis. It doesn't just give us the basic type of stuff. And then there's this cool thing called projection range. And what this does is I still think that news moves the whole market. And I like using this little tool because I can do stuff like this. They're going to click on that. And it'll tell us in a 90% accuracy what it thinks is going to happen within the next hour. So I don't know what this is. Swiss board. 4%. Next hour, it's going to move between negative 1% all the way up to 10%. And the way it does this, again, sentiment analysis, it crawls all the websites, all the different blogs, and also has a direct API into Twitter. So it takes a look at what's going on and gives us a sentiment. So that's interesting. Luna, I've never heard of that. Divi, let me see if I can minimize this.  How about that? There we go. Yeah, nice. Let's see. Uma, UMA, 13%. Swipe, never heard of that. Guinea, Augur, Binance Coin. So yeah, this is what I like to use this tool because it can just kind of tell us what the sentiment is right now. And then also what I like to see is the one-hour change. Because if it's already pumped up a ton, that might not be a good idea to get into that. But you can see the 24-hour change looking pretty good. So if you want to take a bigger look at that, there's a link in the description, and that's it. So anyhow, let's take a look at what's going on the market, huh? So the first step, we've got the MicroStrategy seminar, which was pretty good yesterday. We did a video about it, and it's very bullish for Bitcoin, which, you know, surprise, surprise, how amazing is that? But the reason that it is is because, you know, Michael Souther's leading the whole thing, and he just only believes in Bitcoin. And what it all is, is corporations and institutions really getting in and just getting the playbook from MicroStrategy and going, how did you guys do this? And they pretty much give them everything. They give them PDFs, they have the CFO, the CIO, legal implications, taxes, everything that you possibly need to get into Bitcoin, believe me, they have it. And they're actually doing breakout sessions right now for the bigger players. So after this, I think there's going to be a pretty big pump for Bitcoin. Could be wrong, who knows, but it is interesting. And I did say yesterday, I thought that it will go on waves.  But I think a lot really have to put a plan in place before it happens, and it's going to take some time. And from what I had yesterday, let me scroll down here, I had to, I took notes on everybody that was talking, and I just tweeted everything out so I could actually remember when I did these videos. And this is the three things that I found fascinating yesterday on the second session. And this was from Jeremy Price in your VP of Finance. And I had known this, but it really hit home when he said, he goes, look, at MicroStrategy, we transferred all of our cash into Bitcoin, all of our cash. Then we took out debt and put all that debt into Bitcoin as well. So I mean, they're like huge proponents of this, and it really just, I was like, wow, it's pretty ballsy. Anyhow, this is the one that made sense to me, because just like we talked about, some people, some institutions and corporations are ready to go, some need a little more time, and some will never have a flight plan.  But the ones in the middle that are really like looking into this, this is also from Jeremy, a VP of Finance at MicroStrategy. He says, it took us four months to just put a plan together to go all in on Bitcoin. This is even after Michael Saylor was like, we got to do this, we got to do this, and he probably had some pretty good ideas. So as a corporation, they have to go through legal, they have to go through finance, they have to do their due diligence, put a plan in place, get places like Coinbase to help them do these microtransactions and then execute. And they were like the first ones to really do it. Now that they've done it, I think you can probably cut that time in half. Especially what's going on. But again, it took them four months to put a plan together and two months to execute. Board approval, IT considerations, onboarding banners, everything else. So six months right there, if you can cut it in half, you're still looking at three months. There are no overnight successes. And I think with these corporations, they're going to really take a look at and go, okay, well, let's do this or let's not do this. And Ross Stevens from NYD, he gave you a really great presentation. He said, look, he goes, the biggest question that the CEOs at this conference are going to have to ask themselves is when are they going to transfer their fiat into Bitcoin? Not if, but when. And he goes, right now, you don't think that is the big question, but it will be the next big question in the next decade. And we'll see if he's right, but it was pretty interesting. And then lastly, this is when they had, they had a bunch of different people, but Jeremy Price was leading this breakout session. He says, you'll be happy to know there is Bitcoin insurance. That's what custodial insurance is for, but you should also get self-made insurance just to be safe. So they're telling them that they were saying like, look, it's not a good idea to put everything on cold storage and get a ledger for billions of Bitcoin. You should really have a custodian and then also just to make sure that you, nothing bad happens, you also get insurance. And they pretty much just laid it out. And then they gave out PDFs for everybody to download. And I have them, we'll go over those later, but there's just an interesting piece. Today, we're going to, this was the one that I was interested in. They're going to have, like I said, Binance will be there, Gemini will be there, and I cannot wait for Coinbase to sit up there and say, hey, we can help you guys out. So if you don't think that all these, all these entities are really raw-rawing for these corporations, I think you're mistaken. I think all these guys want to get in and they want their business badly. And we'll see how that affects us, the retail player as they start to onboard all these corporations. We saw what happened with Coinbase. I don't think Coinbase is really, really here for us so much. So just look at the customer support. Just saying, but not that I have anything against them. I don't, I mean, I talk bad about them every so often, but I don't have anything against them. Like look, if you're new to this space, just use Coinbase. It's super simple. And you don't have to really deal with too much. Just use PayPal. It's even simpler than that. Yeah, there's Markup, but who cares? They consider just make it easy on yourself. Just get in right now and then learn a little bit more. Go to danjuscrypto.com. That's a 100% free website. And you can learn everything you need to know about cryptocurrency. Anyhow, I want you to think in the comments section. Let's move on to our next piece. So next up, this was pretty interesting because there's been a lot of articles talking about the centralization of Bitcoin. Brad Garlinghouse being one of those who said that China, as far as miners, control everything. They control pretty much the whole Bitcoin infrastructure and the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party. So when I said this, I'm like, this is interesting. What do we got? Well, data from Glassnode shows that a number of smaller Bitcoin holders and those holding coins on behalf of clients keeps growing. Long-time Bitcoin holders known as, this was weird, long-time Bitcoin holders known as humpbacks and referenced their status to the largest and oldest well-invested in the space are not cashing out. So this was data from Glassnode that they pulled from different wallets and everything they can find from blockchain. And I'm just going to blow this up so you can actually see it. Let me really blow it up. Yeah. So do you see right... Yeah. So you see right here on the right-hand side. Well, first of all, let's take a look here. So you got years. So 2009, 10, 11, 12, 30, 40. All the way up to now, right? So over here, this big, huge gray area, these are all miners. Miners controlled everything back then and there really was not a ton of exchanges except Mt. Gox, I guess.  It was all just the miners. And then as time went on, you had small and medium hodlers. And this is from here and then large hodlers right here. And then you have this piece right here which looks like humpbacks or just like the older ones that just don't sell. My question here is, are these just people that don't sell? Are these the people that just don't have access to their private keys anymore? Or they threw away their computers and these Bitcoin are just completely lost? I'm not for sure on that one, but I can tell you this. I would say from all the data that I've seen over the last couple years that we've lost a minimum of 2 million worth of Bitcoin because people just throw it away or they've lost their private keys or whatever, or their mnemonic phrases. So I think a lot is being lost, so I don't know if those humpbacks play into that or not. But sure. But you can see here, now we have whales and, you know, those people are, they own a ton and they probably trade a little bit. But the large, or the small meme hodlers and large hodlers, there's still a big piece to that equation. And then down here are the miners and this big piece on the chunk are exchanges. So when we talk about how like, well, you know, miners, they don't, you know, there's, they control everything, especially in China. I just personally don't believe that. And I've had many Bitcoin miners on, not on the show, but in the comments we've gone back and forth. They're like, look, I can just unplug at any time and go to any different mining pool. So I don't want to get in that argument, right? That's because it's like, it never ends. It just keeps going, going, going. So I'm like, whatever. But from what I've heard from miners, they're like, look, I can just unplug and go to something else. And if you think China's going to control me, they can't. They can control all their miners and all the other exchanges over there. Sure. And if they want to do something like crash the whole industry, they can wipe out that one. Will it wipe out Bitcoin? No, put a big dent in it, but I think it will recover. Anyhow, I don't want to even get into that.  So that is what we got here. So let me X out of here and go down. So, members of the alleviate fear that we talked about, but here were the articles and you probably know more articles that are written here. I do too, but this is the ones that stood out. One was on January 31st. Bloomberg used a report from research token and now analysts from entity token analysts. Okay. The claim that Bitcoin's infrastructure is more centralized than ever before. This was raising alarms about the security and viability of what is championed as a decentralized network. And before I get into Scott Melker, I just want to say this. You have to understand, I don't know who's doing this. I don't know who's doing the actual articles, but you see all the institutions that are getting in, especially with what we just talked about with MicroStrategy. If all these institutions are getting in and I'm a multi-billion dollar company, I want as much Bitcoin as MicroStrategy or as Galaxy Digital or whoever you want. You have to look around and go, how much are there? There's only 18.5 million mined so far and we've lost 2 millions. There's like 16.5 million. Okay. Who else is here? These are all big people. I don't want to compete against all these people. I can't beat everybody, but what I can do is I can wind back time and I can reach out to my friends at XYZ publication or on this place or on that place. And I can put out an article. It's not illegal just to say, hey, look at this data. Look at what's going on. And then you can start to see retail start to sell. And then because if the small to medium hodlers have 40%, what do you think they want? They want to crash this market or they want to get enough food to make sure that you sell and you give it to these guys because they don't want to buy it at 150,000. They want to buy it at 30,000, 25,000, 20,000. So just be aware. Now, not financial advice, but I see how this could be a thing. Let me know what you think in the comment section, but that's just kind of how I see it. It's frightening, but who knows? So now let's get into Scott Malker. Wolf of Wall Street is on Twitter. Pretty prominent figure in the Bitcoin community or cryptocurrency community. And he talks about this. He says, big buyers will sell eventually. Big buyers will sell eventually. And he says, such a scenario is a matter of if, not when. And the idea that institutions will hodl ad infinitum or infinity is a myth. He references micro strategy and grayscale. And pretty much what he's saying here is like, look, they say they're never going to sell. But that's a myth. At some point, they're going to sell a little bit. He goes, regardless of all the reports servicing about the hedge funds exploring Bitcoin, it is our belief most are going to lock in profit at some point, whether they own the grayscale Bitcoin trust or custody on coins. The answer is yes. Institutions will sell their Bitcoin. He wrote, it's reasonable to leave though that many companies and funds will add Bitcoin to their balance sheet in some denomination as an inflation hedge rather than a short-term profit opportunity, leaving some Bitcoin off the market for good. So you have a wide range of people talking about this. Michael Saylor has been talking about Bitcoin and saying, look, I'm not going to sell it ever. Ever. I'm going to keep it forever. All right. And then you've got MassMutual, that big older type of insurance company going, yeah, we're not going to sell it. But they didn't say forever. And then you've got Galaxy Digital and Grayscale. Who knows when they might do it. But again, Grayscale isn't just holding by themselves. It goes to the people. Other people buy it and they just hold it for them. That's why there's a premium for that. So I know when people talk to me like, Rob, you should never sell any of your crypto because it's just going to keep going to the moon and it'll never stop. And it's going to infinity and beyond. And I'm like, I don't think that's true. I think Bitcoin is a pretty good play. Altcoins, who knows?  Like, do you think that all these institutions are going to be like, you know what, I'm going to just grab onto that and hold it. I'm not going to sell at any time at any point. Really? So I don't know about that. Anyhow, let me know what you think in the comment section. It's always interesting to read as I talk about these institutions never selling. And then let's go on to our last snippet. All right. So last up, PayPal Q4 transaction revenue rose 12%. This was a quick article. Just so you know, PayPal's making a lot of money. That's like the big thing. Final quarter of 2020, PayPal gained 16 million and new net active accounts. And they handled $277 billion. And just as a reminder, on November 12th is when they removed the wait list for Ethereum, Litecoin, Bitcoin Cash, and Bitcoin. So when I talk about Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Ethereum, and Litecoin, these are the ones that I'm thinking to myself, you can't bet against those because they're on PayPal.  So why would you bet against that?  I told you, they haven't gotten globally yet. So they haven't rolled this out and they will. And I think it's going to be big anyhow. Customers who purchase crypto as a platform have been logging to PayPal twice as much as they were before buying crypto. The company said in its investor update and PayPal's transaction revenue increased by around 12%. And then year over year. I will say this. So they rolled this out in 2020 Q4 and they had 5.68 billion. It'll be interesting to see how much their transaction revenue actually goes up for next quarter. But yeah, it's grown a little bit. Good for them. Billion. Sure. Anyhow, the finish up. It says the volume of crypto trade on our platform greatly exceeded our projections. PayPal CEO Dan Schulman said on the company's fourth quarter earnings call, we're excited to build on this early success by allowing customers to use their crypto balance as a funding source. We hope to launch our first international market in the next several months. So you got to understand. So PayPal is going to be huge and they're going to just keep pushing this narrative. Once they've rolled this out to merchants, I think that's when it's really game on for them because for all those transactions, because when this first started up, there was no transaction fees when you wanted to buy Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash Ethereum Litecoin. But that changed and now there are transaction fees.  Sure, you all day. But they're not using Litecoin. Remember, it's all just paper Litecoin. They're buying it up and in the background they're doing the whole thing and they're transaction with fiat. So there is no slippage. There is no volatility. But they get to keep all that cryptocurrency and you're going to have to pay that transaction fee for that.  Just be aware they're going to make a ton of money doing this and that is really what drives the market. Is it right? Is it fair? It's free market. If you want to use it, you can use it. And a lot of people are going to because not everybody wants to deal.  Everybody's different. Everybody has their own ability to comprehend things or their ability to do things because of time constraints, right?   Just give me Coinbase or something like that where I can put on there and they can deal with it. And if it goes up, fantastic. I got to go take Jimmy to soccer practice. So there's only so much people can do, right? So like with PayPal, I'm not going to rip on them for that. That's what it is. And actually, I had a friend of mine, Jasmine. She texted me a couple... Yeah, yesterday. She goes, hey, is Ethereum a good thing to invest in? Which I'm sure you guys have probably done the same way. And I just like, yeah, sure. What do you want to do? She's like, should I get on PayPal? I'm like, sure. Because I don't want to go with like, you know, you should really go through an analyzer and you can buy it over here and it's $100. And then when it gets here in two weeks, then you can do this and this. Oh, but there's also a hack. So, you know, watch. I'm like, just use PayPal, go down to your crypto at some point and learn the rest of it. And then maybe you can just take baby steps because everybody's different and far be it from me to say, you need to do it this way because I say so. It's not the case. Anyhow, that's it for today. We'll finish up at nine in the morning. Got another hour until I get to listen to Binance, swindle all these institutions. Not swindle, but, you know, sell these institutions for their custodial services. And that's it for today. So, hey, if you've made it all the way to the end, maybe you should have the thumbs up. That'd be great. Maybe you liked it and maybe you should subscribe. Just a suggestion. All of our things that we talk about are pretty much time-sensitive. So, help me, help you. Everybody's a winner, right? Also, if you like the types of videos, it'll be two months going to pop up when you're left and right. I'll let YouTube do its magic. And that is all for today. So, thanks so much for watching all the way to the end. I appreciate it and I'll see you on the next one.


It's something you might not know about traveling with the prosthetic leg. So I just got off an airplane. I'm letting the pressure out of my leg and then getting it off as quickly as I can. Sitting in an airplane for hours can cause a lot of pressure, a lot of swelling from time to time and just discomfort. So I get it off massages as much as I can. Sometimes those pressure changes can cause spikes in phantom pain. So I try to stimulate the nerve area to hopefully get it to calm down a little bit. If I have time, I might elevate it and just keep it off for a little while before the next flight happens and I've got to put it back on.  Traveling and flying as an ABT, all things considered, just takes a couple of extra steps, a couple of extra thoughts and sometimes some AdvO.


Why are there two tables in the presentation room? Well, let's look at the layout where you will be giving your demonstration. The front table is brought in with each contestant. You will use this table to demonstrate your recipe. The back table is plain and stays in the room throughout the contest. Use the back table to store items you aren't using so you can keep your workspace clean and tidy. Keep items on the back table until you're ready to use them and then return them to the back table when you're done. The finished product, unless you're working with a hot plate or skillet, can be kept on the back table until it's time to serve the judges.


أعو بالله من الشيطان الرجيم بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم والصلاة والسلام على أشرف الأنبياء والمرسلين سيدنا ونبينا أبل قاسم محمد الأمين وعلى أحلبيت طيبين الطاهرين المعصومين المبلومين اللهم صلي على محمد المعالي محمد هذا لا يمكن one to have the accurate amount of time in order to pursue and explore all the major varying philosophies, worldviews and religions in the world This is correct. Likewise, it is not really something befitting for me to discuss whether Scholar of Regile Y or Scholar of Regile X has a slightly nicer system and is slightly more lenient on person Y from deviant sect X. Again, that would not form part of the major questions within a framework or package of beliefs. But in last night's episode we were successfully able to move on to the first major question within any worldview that is to say what is the nature of God And before we can even move on to that question, is there indeed a God? Is there a deity? Is there a Creator who has created us within this system in order that we can know him? And we've stated that whilst certain people would like to argue that atheism is merely the abstract absence of a belief in a God or the negation in the belief in one particular deity and has no further consequences that this is entirely rejected by us because every belief has a consequence and every major belief has a major consequence We observed in last night's episode in which we began to quote from some of the specialists in this field that this is not merely a believer's polemic against a non-believer This is not merely the whims and desires of Yahya Seymour speaking against what the consequences of atheism or a Godless worldview are Rather this is something that has been recognized, highlighted and accepted and even taken pride in by some of the major atheist thinkers of today's age In last night's episode I began citing of course one of the major atheist professors within the contemporary western world And again, not just a materialist who happens to dabble in minor issues of rationality but rather someone specialized in the very discipline that we are concerned with, epistemology, the sources of knowledge This individual, his name is Alex Rosenberg And as I stated yesterday, he is the R. Taylor Cole Professor of Philosophy at Duke University specializing in the philosophy of science Not a field, which again is something that any Tom Dick or Harry or any internet polemicist can enter into This is a man that's very specialized in his area of knowledge And a man who knows what he's talking about In his book, The Atheist Guide to Reality He promotes the idea that atheism is not merely the abstract rejection of a belief in God He doesn't buy that whole new atheist argument that I'm just someone who rejects God's existence What do you mean there's other consequences Rather, he embraces full heartedly And even takes pride in embracing Because he believes it's a sincere intellectual thing to do In acknowledging that his belief that there is no God And his belief in the truth of atheism Leads to much more than just a rejection of a Creator What does he state? Let's quote once more what he states He states, there is much more to atheism than its knock-down arguments that there is no God Of course, he's talking about from his perspective We're not too impressed with the arguments that there is no God There is the whole rest of the world view That word I've been utilizing almost daily now That comes along with atheism It's a demanding rigorous breathtaking grip on reality One that has been vindicated beyond reasonable doubt It's called science Alex Rosenberg again recognizes that there is A particular epistemology When it comes to atheism That epistemology would be what we call Scientism So in this framework or theory of knowledge And how we learn things about the universe Alex Rosenberg would say that the sources of knowledge Which are adequate for us Is what is called scientism The belief that through the empirical sciences Through the five senses And the study of the three natural sciences That is to say chemistry, physics, and biology These are the primary sources of knowledge And indeed he would break that down further Till we reach just the science of physics A fact for Alex Rosenberg is a physical fact It's a fact about the physical nature of something So this is the epistemology of The new improved free thinkers of today Those who believe that religion is superstitious Those who believe that we as believers Live in a backwards world In which we offer no rational thinking About the nature of the universe Or indeed about life in general Is that the case Let's see who really has the primitive world view here Allow me to cite once more What this scientific Or scientism's World view would be When it comes to some of the major questions And indeed fortunately for us Professor Alex Rosenberg has done the heavy Grafting for us And he as a proponent and apologist And indeed someone who is promoting This belief in naturalism Is putting forward these views As his answers to these major questions He states and I quote Is there a God As an atheist his answer is no What is the nature of reality What physics says it is So I was not doing a strawman argument Earlier on This is literally what Alex Rosenberg believes What is the purpose of the universe There is none That makes perfect sense of course When he believes that the universe Came out of absolute randomness There is not going to be a purpose for it What is the meaning of life He says and I quote Ditto There is none Why am I here Just dumb luck Your chance Does prayer work Of course not Is there a soul Is it immortal So does the human being Have such a thing Known as a soul And is that soul immortal He responds Are you kidding And of course this is very natural He's a physicalist Does not believe in the existence Of non-physical entities Interesting question next Is there free will Alex Rosenberg's response Not a chance What happens when we die He responds Everything pretty much goes on As before except us Now this is one of the more Interesting questions That is interesting for all viewers Regardless of the religious sect What is the difference between Right and wrong Good and bad He says and I quote Why should I be moral He asks Because it makes you feel better Than being immoral So at the very least He's a nice nihilist Is abortion euthanasia Suicide paying taxes Foreign aid Or anything else You don't like One forbidden Two permissible Or three sometimes obligatory So if we were to frame this In a different way We could ask the questioners Is there anything in life Which is permissible Or obligatory Or occasionally forbidden His response Anything goes Do what you want What is love And how can I find it His response Love is a solution To a strategic interaction problem Don't look for it It will find you when you need it Now this is an interesting question Does history have any meaning Or purpose The previous human endeavors Do they have meaning or purpose He states No sound and fury But signifies nothing Human history in its entirety According to Alex Rosenberg Signifies absolutely nothing Does the human past Have any lessons for our future Listen to this answer Fewer and fewer If it ever had any to begin with So this is the world view That Alex Rosenberg Is promoting These are the answers To the bigger questions Upon the materialistic And scientific world view Of Alex Rosenberg But dear viewers We will come back to Looking at this world view When we go for a quick break Join me after the break Insha'Allah السلام عليكم و رحمة الله But what are some of the problems For Alex Rosenberg's world view here You'll remember when I went Through the list of world views And how we would analyze Each of them I stated in last night's episode That we will be taking The very loyal إمامي إسلاميك And محمدن And when I say محمدن I don't say it in the sense of محمدن The word that these Western colonialist Missionaries used to use I say it of course Referring back Something to the prophet محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم For indeed we follow The original Islam When we look at the محمدن And إمامي principle Of how to debate And analyze the arguments of others We look at one of the principles Which is known as قائدة الإلزام To compel a group of people By the very principles By which they compel themselves And see how things end up A principle very commonly utilized In books like كتاب الإحتجاج Which reflects the nature Of the debates The debate strategies Utilized by the holy imams With the peace and blessings Of Allah be upon them all And indeed we find this as well In the book محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم In which we look at the debates Of إمام علي ابن موسى أربع عليه صلى الله عليه وسلم This principle We're now going to apply it To the worldview Of Alex Rosenberg And the first question We want to ask is Is this worldview Liveable So let's look At this set Of principles again Is there a God now That's fine We'll keep that belief to the side For now Even though it means That we are incapable Of explaining Where Life And existence itself Came from But that's just Something we're going to keep to the side Because it has nothing to do With our livability Right now What is the nature of reality Whatever physics says it is So is that a livable way Of approaching the world Doesn't make sense of When Someone gets home When they want to have A conversation with others We talk about things In a purely physical manner And we would describe Everything we do Purely from the perspective of physics Purely from the perspective of What the physical properties Of things are Does that seem to be a very Livable way of living life I think we all know the answer to that What is the purpose of the universe Again we don't expect much more In an atheist worldview None What is the meaning of life Again nothing Why am I here just dumb luck Why does prayer work No Is there a soul Is it immortal Again obviously upon atheism You're not going to find much Of an answer to that Because a materialistic worldview Is not going to have room For an immaterial object Like a soul But this is the interesting one Is there free will Not a chance Okay Is that livable Is that a very livable belief When I go out On a day to day basis And someone irritates me Someone commits a crime Against humanity And I look at that On the TV screen And I see that look I'm grotesquely offended By this crime Which has been committed Especially if that crime Is committed against someone Like myself I'm going to be even more offended Now that's not necessarily The right way to look at things But we as human beings Can be very self-centered If I adopt that belief That there's no such thing As free will Then look at the ramifications And consequences of this belief I'm going to start believing That criminals Should not be prosecuted Nor should they be punished In a legitimate penal system Because at the end of the day These poor guys Were not in control of their actions Rather, they were predestined To do everything that they did They had absolutely zero choice in it It's a bit like me Programming and firing up a computer Getting that computer To do a task And then complaining That the computer did something Which it was programmed to do If it has no free agency Then I can't blame it And again If we have no free will Then we should not blame Criminals For acting in the way they do We should not reprimand Anyone for anything Let's look at every single Dimension of life That we can apply This not having free will We all know that in universities There are consequences For things like plagiarism There are consequences For acting unethically In the area of sports There are consequences For acting unethically In pretty much every single Field of the workforce Of today's world's population Can you imagine What would happen if every time A person would be chastised Penalised And dismissed from their job For acting in ethically Or unethically We would be forced To say that No, actually this poor individual Has not acted against the ethics Of the company Due to free will But rather They were chemically predispositioned And physically predispositioned To act in the very way they did You should not reprimand them For in the same way You do not choose what you do These poor individuals Have also not made that choice This is one of the consequences Of saying that There is no such thing as free will And more importantly If there is no such thing as free will Then we do hope that those Militant atheists To go around attacking everybody For what they believe in Would likewise take heed that Look at the end of the day According to your worldview We do not really choose To believe in the things That we believe in Rather according to your worldview I was chemically predispositioned To enter into Islam And believe in Islam And you were chemically predispositioned To remain an atheist This is the consequence of denying That we have a free will It would lead to Mass destruction On a societal level There would be no such thing as Courses of rehabilitation Because at the end of the day You would not be able to Rehabilitate someone That has absolutely zero Intentionality Or free human agency In the very thing that they do And we can see why This leads to a level Of what we could call cosmic despair Because if you have Absolutely zero choice In what you do If you are merely The physical composition Of a bunch of atoms and bosons Floating around in space Nothing of your life Is truly meaningful All the relationships you have Are merely the physical Compounds in your brain Causing you to act In a certain way Everyone that finds Who dear to them Is only doing so Because they have been Chemically predispositioned To do so Then what does that leave Life as being And again What it would leave it as Is exactly what Alex Rosenberg describes it as What is the nature of reality Whatever physics says it is And that is The consequence That is indeed the result Of this modern day Which promotes us As being Nothing more than Robots When we talk Of movies like iRobots Or other movies Which contain Futureistic concepts Such as Robots who are Just programmed to do What they do And unfortunately An evil guy takes over And somehow manages To change their programming And they do something But at the end of the day They don't have agency And they shouldn't really Be punished for such They just get destroyed When you put forward The view that a human being Is nothing more than An organic robot What kind of Concept is that Going to have for How you would treat Other human beings How are we going to think Of other human beings If that's all that they are Nothing more than Organic robots Organic units Without the natural Artificial intelligence Even to Make their own choices We're going to start treating them As if they're a cattle We're going to start treating Them worse than cattle Because at least cattle We believe Have a degree of free will But This argument promotes The thought That we as human beings Don't even have that agency In order to carry out Our lives In the way that we do This is one of the Consequences Of this worldview And we see That it's not very Liveable Again What is the difference Between right and wrong Good and bad There is no moral difference Between them So what does that mean What does it mean to say That there's no moral difference Between right and wrong Good and bad What would be a consequence of that Well Firstly we've already seen That obviously If someone's Chemically predisposed To do what they're meant to do We can't really blame Them for that anyway But If we can't now say That an action An action Independent of the actor And whether or not The actor has a choice If we can't say That an action Is good or bad What's that going to lead us to That's going to mean That of course Someone's choice Of what their favorite Soft drink beverage is Is exactly the same As their choice of Favorite Crime And Horrible act To commit As a means of Taking someone's life If My choice in regards to Morality is no more different Than my choice of For example Breakfast cereal Then what kind of World view is this going to be How liveable is it Really going to be Can you imagine that Your son comes home And he unfortunately is someone That carries out all these crimes A decent person A decent person Is going to Call the authorities And report their son For doing such Very going to inform the authorities That look Yes, it's my son But he's doing all these things And for the greater good of society This is really wrong I'm going to stand against him But if you believe That there's no such thing Is right or wrong What's that going to do To your image Of how we ought to treat society And so We need to ask Have people really considered The effects of Disbelieving in the concept of God Have people really considered What it does To your Rational concepts To your rational faculties And if you really believe this If you really believe There is no free will And that there's no such thing As right or wrong Are you in a liveable position To start condemning others For what they believe in Or how they act These are all Necessary points Which I don't think Many of the new atheists Have considered For indeed I don't think they've considered The fact that their belief In the absence of a God Is not merely the absence Of a belief But rather an entire World view itself But these are all questions That I believe We need to ask We need to ask When looking towards Which world views are Sustainable Serious candidates For the table Of different ideas And this is something Which of course We shall Drove into further But right now As we can see Atheism doesn't seem To be making the cut Dear viewers Thank you for joining me Once more on This your show Back to the basics And insha'Allah To Allah We pray That you will join us Tomorrow In which we continue Analyze In the world view Of atheism Please don't forget Us in your duas And we will likewise Not forget you here In Karbala In our duas مرحبا


Ang karunungan ay kapang nyarihan. Today, we're putting that power to the test. Here on K-Check. Hello, everyone. Apapos, attorney Gabby Concepcion. Hata ko naman si Jules Guiang and this is K-Check. Tuloy pa rin ang paghanap natin ang mga gustong sanayin at palawake ng brain power nila through competition. Alamin natin kung kaya nila ang brain workout na inihanda natin for them this season. Samahan nyo kami hanggang sa papalapet ng final week of competition when we reveal our new K-Check champion. Apat na contestants, all students of UTV Dileman ang dadaan sa ating karunungan check sa araw na ito. Unang-una, we have SAD. And SAD is taking B.S.E.D. in English Language Education. He's a member of UP Tabletop, an organization in Dileman that promotes board gaming as a hobby. Belle is also an English Language Education student and in her free time, she loves watching Korean dramas and listening to music. Mika is an early education student who does a lot of volunteer work. She's a children's rights advocate and is a member of UP Volunteers for Children. Last but not least, Hans is a fourth year B.S. Chemical Engineering student. His hobbies are watching anime and sitcoms, playing the guitar and walking around our beautiful campus. He also listens to the band, The Smiths. So these four will be competing under the watchful eyes of today's K-Check panel of experts. Firstly, we have Professor Marion Roque, Professor of Mathematics at UP Dileman. Next, we have Assistant Professor Bernard Kaslib from the Department of Social Sciences, College of Arts and Sciences from UP Manila. And finally, we have Multimedia Artist and Professor Emeritus, Teaching Film at the UP College of Maths Communication Film Institute and Communication at the UP Open University. We have Professor Grace Hagier Alfonso. At ngayon, contestants, handana ba kayo for our first round? Get ready to buzz in and collect those points. But make sure you wait until you are acknowledged by the host. Otherwise, your answers might not be given any credit. Correct answers are 10 points each. Let's begin. Question number one. What Broadway musical about a U.S. Secretary of the Treasury made its Philippine premiere in September 2023? Sad. Hamilton. Hamilton is correct. K-Check. Question number two. What 2013 Disney film was set in the realm of Arendelle? Sad. Frozen. Frozen is correct. K-Check. Question number three. What popular present-day liquor from the sap from the agave plant was first developed by the Aztecs of what is now Mexico? Sad. Tequila. Tequila is correct. K-Check. Question number four. In mental math, what number should you divide 24 by to get three? Bell. Eight. Eight is correct. K-Check. Question number five. What is the name of the large flightless seabird of the southern hemisphere with a black and white body and wings developed into flippers for swimming under water? Bell. Penguin. Penguin is correct. K-Check. Question number six. What word may describe a round-plating or a formal dance event? Sad. Ball. Ball is correct. K-Check. Question number seven. Which 2023 global number one hit by Miley Cyrus has a title that may describe roses, tulips, and daisies? Bell. Flowers. Flowers is correct. K-Check. Question number eight. In what province can you find the tourist spots, Tapia Falls, Tam'an Village, and the Banawi Rice Terraces? Hans. Ifugaw. Ifugaw is correct. K-Check. Question number nine. Hokkaido is the northernmost of the major islands of which Asian country? Mika. Japan. Japan is correct. K-Check. Question number ten. In astronomy. What term refers to the circular path that celestial objects in space move around a planet or star? Orbit. Orbit is correct. K-Check. Question number eleven. What is the largest city in the U.S. state of Nevada which is known for its entertainment and casinos? Hans. Las Vegas. Las Vegas is correct. K-Check. Last question for this round. What island of Cebu is the site of the 1521 battle where the men of Lapu-Lapu? Hans. Maktan. Let me proceed with the question. Defeated the invading forces of Ferdinand Magellan, you said Maktan. Correct. K-Check. And that ends round number one. Praming salamat, Jules. After that first round, we have sad, who is not very sad right now. Who is happy because he's in the lead with 50 points followed by Hans with 30 and Belle who is also tied with Hans at 30 points and Mika with 10 points. Okay. Congratulation. Nasa kayo na sagot nyo lahat ang mga tanong sa first round. Okay. So may part dito sa show natin para mawala yung mga nervus natin pero parang din ang masalin ng nervus kanina. Okay. So si Sad ang unahin natin. So Sad, bakit Sad ang name mo? My sir name is Sad Sad and to make it short, people call me Sad. So his full name is Sad Sad Sad. Sad cute. Sad cute. Okay. So nabanggit din natin kanina na you're interested in board gaming. Itong analogue na to, may kinagawa, may kinalaman ba to sa mga digital games? Kino cover nyo rin ba yan? Sometimes we play online but it's usually just also board games. Yes. Ita naman si Belle. Si Belle ay isang English language education student pero Korean dramas ang hilig. So bakit Korean dramas ang hilig mo?  I chose that to unleash stress and the tiredness of having a lot of work needs to do. Pero actually sa through all these weeks and days of competitions we find out that K-dramas are a consistent and constant source of entertainment. So thank you very much contestants. Mamaya, Mika at si Hans naman ang kakausapin natin, siyempre pero bago yon maghanda muna tayo dahil susunod na po ang round two dito sa pagbabalik ng K-check. Tuloy pa rin nang ating karunungan check. Points Lika puna tayo sad is leading with 50 points followed by Belle and Hans na tied sila with 30 points each at si Mika naman ay may 10 points. So tuloy pa rin ang ating chikahan with our contestants, Mika, why don't you tell us about your advocacy and your volunteer work which is di ba nakaka-inspire na marimid. So kailangan talaga natin pagusapan niya. So for our org, UP volunteers of Children we do community services for example we have this community learning hub where we teach children kinder to grade six also then we have this curriculum na kami yung nagtuturo we create the lesson plans, learning materials na hindi yung iba afford ng studies. Pero saan ang mga community, malapit lang dito. Yes, around the limit. Okay, so from Mika, ito naman si Hans. So sinabi ni Hans kanina na he listens to the Smiths. Di ko nga sila kilala. So para sa mga hindi nakakilala sa the Smiths, that's an eighties band. Kaya hindi ko siya kilala. Way before our time. So paano na discover ang the Smiths hand? Siguro po, since pandemic, na di discover ko po yung aking discography na gusto ang pakingyan dahil po sa Spotify. So para it connects with different generations. So parang napunta na siya sa recommendation ko dus dun ko sila discover. Which is good. Di pag yung kanilang music. Ako na hindi ko in the Smiths sa isang film, yung 500 days of summer. Na kumaraling paborito yung 500 days. No, first time yung siya pinanood, mga one weekos ang sinundun, 20 times. Okay, so now it's time for round two. So contestants, get ready to buzz in but make sure you strategize. Correct answers are worth 20 points each but you lose 10 points if you answer incorrectly. Let's begin. This is round two. Question number one. In medicine, what is the name of the inflammation of the large and medium-sized airways called bronchi in the lungs? And bronchitis. Bronchitis. Give away yung answer sa question but bronchitis is the correct answer. K-check. Question number two. Which famous Filipino military leader perished at the age of 22 at the battle of Tiragpas in 1899? Times. Gregorio Delpilar. Gregorio Delpilar is the correct answer. K-check. Nagdainas is sad at si Hans. Medyanas sad na si Sad. Question number three. What do you call an elevated railway amusement park ride? Usually constructed with sharp curves and steep inclines on which cars roll. Sad. Roller coaster. Roller coaster is the correct answer. K-check. Question number four. What word may mean either a flowing body of water that follows a non-fixed path or it could mean an unbroken flow or it could mean digital data that is continuously delivered one packet at a time? Sad. River. The answer is incorrect. The sad na talaga si Sad. The answer is stream. Question number five. In art. What general term refers to the depiction of natural scenery like mountains, bodies of water, fields and forests? Sad. Landscape. Landscape is the correct answer. K-check. Question number six. One of the biggest hit songs of 2023 was Calm Down recorded by Rema and which American singer? The correct answer is Selena Gomez. Question number seven. Olongapo was the last piece of Philippine territory surrendered by the United States to our country in the 1950s. In what province can you find Olongapo? Naku. You can find Olongapo in the province of Zambales. Question number eight. What is the screen name of Joseph Glenn Herbert, the Filipino-American comedian who hosted the 81st Golden Gate Awards? Bell. Jokoy. Jokoy, of course, very popular right now, being an viral jokoy. Question number nine. In science, what do you call the process of mixing decaying leaves and other organic matter? Sad. The composition? The answer is wrong. Of mixing decaying leaves and other organic matter to improve and fertilize soil. Hans. Composting. Composting is the correct answer. K-check. In question number ten. What is the full name of the hardy, female main character of the Hunger Games series? Sad. Katniss Everdeen. Katniss Everdeen is the correct answer. K-check. Tayo na ulit si Sad at sa Kasihans. Question number eleven. The smallest state in the world, both by area and by population, can be located inside the city of Rome. Hans. Vatican City. This holy city state is Vatican City. The answer is correct. K-check. Last question for this round. In science, what do you call the massive and remote heavenly body whose name is taken from quasi-stellar radio source? Taken from quasi-stellar radio source, the correct answer is Quasar. And that's it for our second round. Okay, so let's do a points recap after that round. Hans is leading with 110 points. Followed by Sad with 90 points. Bell with 50 points. And Mika with 10 points. I love the competition, pero hindi pa po tapos ang labanan. Ultimate pagali na sa pagbabalik na ang K-check. Welcome back to K-check. Points recap Tayo. Hans is leading with 110 points. Followed by Sad with 90 points. Bell with 50 points. And Mika with 10 points. Pero meron pa tayong paparating na ultimate pagalingan round. So let's go now for those points and for the win. But remember sa round na to, sa ating panel of experts manga galing ang ating mga katanuman. Dito sa round na to, correct answers are worth 30 points each, pero may 15-point deduction for wrong answers. Let's begin. So let's begin the ultimate pagalingan round with the first question from Prof. Maryann. Okay, which of the following colors is least effective or least used during the process of photosynthesis? A, green, B, blue, C, red, D, violet or E, none of the above. We know photosynthesis, right? The leaves need to absorb light. Blue and red at three chance of the light spectrum are the most effective. Now leaves are usually green meaning the leaves reflect green. So the one least absorbed or not absorbed will be the color green. The correct answer is A, green. So your question is from philosophy of science. What is Thomas Kuhn's concept of incomplete change in fundamental assumptions within a scientific discipline? A, falsifiability. B, paradigm shift. C, scientific revolution. D, positivism or E, empirical evidence. Saad, B, paradigm shift. Letter B, paradigm shift is correct. Kcheck. Your turn. Sa art and culture naman tayo. Who is the artist said to be the forerunner of pop art. He is known for creating the capital soup cans and Marlin Monroe prints. However, feminist reacted to his exploitation of women icons. His words are described as obsession with a glamor and intrigue of mass production in popular culture. His Marlin Monroe prints were said to have fetched the sum of $195 million. A, Tom Westerman. B, Norman Rockwell. C, Andy Warhol. D, Willem de Kooning. Saad, C, Andy Warhol. So ang yung answer ay letter C, Kcheck ka na. Biology, medyubayo ulit to. Thank you Prof Ian Fontanile sa mga questions ng iba. Atribution. Yes. Alin sa mga sumusunod, ang likas na endemic o dito lang sa Pilipinas, makita A, Manga. B, Reflesha. C, Maya. D, Tawilis. Or E, Tilapia. O alam ni attorney Gaby ang sagot. Sardinella Tawilis is a freshwater sardine found exclusively in the Pilipinas and it's only the member of the genus Sardinella known to exist in fresh water. So anahalapin Tawilis? Very good. Kcheck ka. So the correct answer is D, Tawilis. Paran ni masarap alam magtugay tay after. Okay, for my second question this is from economics. What economic system emphasizes private ownership of the means of production? Times. Andali pala ng tanang. Okay, sigil. Letter B, Kcheck. Capitalism. Okay. Ato na tayo. Nindex Travegan period of art and architecture of early 17th century described as having grandeur, sensuous richness, drama, vitality, movement, emotional tension, exuberance, et cetera. It has reached all of Europe and the world and hanggang San Augustine Church. A chaka nwestra sinyora dila asunasyon in eloko surd declared as UNESCO World Heritage Site. Okay. A, artnavo. B, fovisim. C, roko ko. D, barok. E, rena sans. Ang answer ay barok. Sorry talagang math and science haken. Which of the following lines is tangent to the line y is equal to x plus 1? A, y is equal to x plus 2. B, y is equal to negative x plus 2. C, y is equal to x minus 1. D, y equals negative 2x plus 1. Or E, none of the above. Kailangan talagang may improve yung math education sa Pilipinas. Pag sila ay tangent, their slopes are negative inverses. Kapag given ka ng y equals mx plus b, ang slope ay m, the given line is y equals x plus 1. Ang slope niya ay 1. So sa mga bilay ko sagot, y is equal to negative x plus 2. Ang merong negative. Perciprocal ng 1. Okay? Korea cancer is y equals negative x plus 2. Dumooduguna ang ilong. May naintindihan ba kayo? Wala. Lumalabas ang mga stem and non-stem people. O nga po. Dumugu yung ilong ko ng kontip. Okay, so the next question is from logic. Madali rin lang to. What is the term for the fallacy that attacks another person's character instead of a... Logical fallacy. Yes, that's a logical fallacy but I'm asking for what exactly. Sal. Adominem. Adominem, yes. That's correct. Nga cage sya. Mam, Gigi, back to you. The famous painting, Birth of Venus by the early Renaissance painter Sandro Botticelli. Features the goddess of love floating in the ocean standing on what? Raft. Sea shell. Boat. Sun. Sea shell. Korak jala na na. Okay, please sagutin nyo na ito. Para itaguyod ang science and math. Who is credited alo nyo ito for the invention of the modern periodic table? Finally. You just made her day. Yes. A. Albert Nobel. B. Antoine Lavosche. C. Gregor Mendel. D. Dmitry Mendeliv. E or E. James Watson. Latila ay father ng something pero ang father ng modern periodic table is D. Dmitry Mendeliv. Okay, check. Oh, happy ka na. Meron ng nakasagot sa iyong katalu na. Thank you, Hans. Okay, may last question. May makasagot din ito. Who is the former Philippine president who earned the PhD in economics from the University of the Philippines and served as secretary of the Department of Social Welfare and Development? A. Gloria Makapagal Arroyo. B. Benigno Aquino III. C. Manuel Rojas. B. Fidel V. Ramos. Or E. Corazon Aquino. Gloria Makapagal. Gloria Makapagal Arroyo is Kate Shek. Nakuprok, Gigi. Your question will determine who between Sad and Hans will be our champion for the day. Okay. Oh, ito ang question ko. What are the folk songs with lyrics in Tagalog that were subtly patriotic but typically disguised as love songs and traditionally used to serenade? Kondiman. Tokiem, Pinoy Pop, Koliutan, Kondiman, Manila Sound. And the correct answer is D. So, Kate Shek again. So, that was a very exciting and challenging round. Exciting. And that's it for our Kate Shek Ultimate Pagalingan Round. We need to congratulate Sad who is our Kate Shek daily winner with a final score of 230 points. But we need to congratulate Hans who nearly stole that crown from Sad because Hans follows with 200 points. So, we will see Sad again on Friday when he competes with our other daily winners for a spot in our semifinals. Syempre, maraming salamat din sa ating mga contestants Belle, Mika and Hans. Thank you for joining. And to the members of our panel of experts, Professor Marian, Professor Bernard, and Professor Gigi. Maraming salamat po, I'm Jules Gia. And of course, I'm attorney Gabby Concepcion. Join us again tomorrow for another round of Kate Shek.