What we see now is many, many firms try to portray themselves as green as environmentally friendly. Why do they try to do this? Well, I suppose they're trying to convince consumers that they're good stewards of the environment. For me, this phrase, good stewards of the environment is sort of loaded with morality. The kind of economics we're going to discuss is what we call amoral. It's simply not interested in morality. Firms, people are greedy. They like to make money. They like to be rich. You give them some incentives and they'll react. So today we see firms that want to be known as environmentally friendly because in this country now in our society, people do not want to buy from polluting firms. From firms they think that are destroying the environment.


In a previous episode, we spoke about the prosperity of New Orleans in the early 20th century. Because of New Orleans' economic boom, this is where it got the nickname, The Big Easy. This, of course, was because jobs were easy to come by. And for a lot of people struggling in their home countries, New Orleans seemed like the ideal city to start over. But before we go any further, you know what to do. Please hit that subscribe button and give us a like. As always, a very, very special thank you to all of our producers and our patrons. Without you guys, we could not do what we do. If you would like to join our Patreon community, there is a link down in the description box below. Welcome to Esoteric Atlanta. My name is Bryce, and today on Mystery Monday, we are going to be talking about the Axe Man of New Orleans. Now, this was by far one of the most heavily requested stories to cover. And to be honest with you, I was a little hesitant about covering this story because it has been told so many times. However, while I was doing research, I found an angle to the story that's not really spoken about. This is an angle that many, many years ago was considered to be a possibility. But because of its paranormal implications, people today typically don't speak of it. That angle of the Axe Man will be covered on Friday in our part two. Before today, let's just give the back story of what happened in New Orleans in the early 20th century. Between 1884 and 1924, about 300,000 Italians from the island of Sicily immigrated to New Orleans. The island of Sicily, off the coast of the Italian continent, had become overrun with dirty politicians and organized crime families. Now, we have spoken about the island of Sicily before in another video. That video I will place again down in the description box below. But for most Sicilians, they just wanted to live a good life. They did not want to be governed by people who were corrupt. I think in 2021, most of us can empathize with the Sicilians, the majority of Sicilians, who decided to immigrate to New Orleans. Now, any time in the history of this American continent that a group, a large group of people coming from a certain country infiltrates into American society, a lot of the Americans already living in the area get very nervous. For example, we saw this with the Irish. When the Irish, after the potato famine, happened, started moving to the New York area at one point, the New York ports told them that they weren't allowed to take in any more Irish. We covered bits of that about a year ago, and I will again place that video down in the description box below. So as the Italians started to make their way into New Orleans, the citizens of New Orleans were also very hesitant with this new group of people. In fact, there were so many Irish coming into New Orleans that the French quarter became known as Little Palermo. Now, even though most of the immigrants from Italy into New Orleans were again decent people just looking for a fair shot at life, of course, within this 300,000 people came some corrupt people. And pretty soon, the Mafias that had run Sicily were starting to establish control in New Orleans as well, especially around the docks. David Hennessey was a local New Orleans man. His parents were Irish and had moved to New Orleans during the potato famine. Now, again, since the Irish had already set their sights on the New World, when the Italians started coming over, there was not only tension with the Americans, but also tension between the Italian and Irish communities. Well, David Hennessey was a young man who got himself involved with the police force of New Orleans. And in 1881, David Hennessey made a huge arrest. He arrested a man named Giuseppe Esposito. Now, the arrest of Giuseppe Esposito made national news. He was known to be a very, very powerful man in the Sicilian mafia, a very powerful man who had been arrested previously in Sicily for the story goes that other members of the mafia helped Esposito escape to the New World. He came first to New York, making his way down eventually to New Orleans. Now, he had changed his name in order to hide his identity, but I'm going to continue to call him by his birth name, which again is Esposito. Once Esposito got to New Orleans, he quickly took a wife and worked his way up to become a crime boss in New Orleans. And as a crime boss, he started to control the docks and the markets. Now, again, a lot of the Italian immigrants worked in the grocery industry. They worked on the docks and they sold in the markets. And as with most organized crime, different factions started to press up against each other, leaving the innocent people just trying to make a decent living to be the victims of their dirty politics. Well, pretty soon a tip was set into the police force of New Orleans that Esposito was living in their district. And it was David Hennessey and his partner that eventually apprehended Esposito. What David Hennessey and his partner did not know was that their boss was also involved in the Italian mafia of New Orleans. And once Esposito was arrested by David Hennessey, his boss charged him with not being in his proper post at the time of the arrest. Esposito was deported back to Sicily for the Italian government to do what they needed to do with him. Meanwhile, David Hennessey was let off by someone even higher than his boss once he was released from the battle and sued on the streets of New Orleans. It seems that David's boss was really upset that Esposito had been sent back to Sicily and he was going to take care of Hennessey one way or another. Well, Hennessey ended up surviving, but obviously was scarred from his experience with the New Orleans police. After this fiasco happened, Hennessey decided to work in private security. While working in private security, Hennessey himself struck up a relationship with another Italian family. This was the Provenzano family and they too had some ties, allegedly, to organized crime. In fact, this family was the family that controlled the fruit market in New Orleans. So here's David Hennessey, a man who had made national news coverage for apprehended a wanted felon, now actually working private security for yet another family involved in organized crime. But I do understand this was the late 1800s and Hennessey needed a job and so sometimes you do what you got to do. Well, in the mid 1880s, another family named the Matraganas pushed their way into the docks, into the fruit market. Now the Matraganas did have ties to Esposito, the man again that Hennessey had apprehended. So once again, Hennessey was helping run security for an Italian crime family who was being pressured by another Italian crime family who had connections to a crime boss that the private security man Hennessey had apprehended when he worked at the police force. But everything changed in 1889 when new city leadership was elected. At this point, the new city leadership of New Orleans appointed Hennessey brought him back into the police force and made him the superintendent of all of the police. He was now the chief of police and this new mayor wanted to crack down on organized crime. I guess he knew that Hennessey had started to do that earlier on in his career. So I think he felt that if he brought him back on the police force, he would be able to help him clean up the streets of New Orleans. You see, many of the illegal businesses in New Orleans were paying off the police force. It wasn't just the crime families that had connections to the police force to keep themselves safe, but it was also houses of ill reputes, if you know what I mean, and other such businesses that were paying each month to keep the police off their backs so they could continue to run their illegal establishments. So the new mayor wanted inventory from all the businesses involved in this bribery, basically, that was happening with the city officials of New Orleans. So Hennessey wasted no time to start researching the crime family connected to Esposito that had been pressuring him as a security guard. He started his investigation with one of the wealthiest Italian business owners in New Orleans. This was a man by the name of Joseph P. Machica. Now Machica, on the outside, appeared to be a man that had a very successful shipping business in the docks. But according to Hennessey, he suspected that he again was one of the head ringleaders for this organized crime group that had made its way from Sicily into New Orleans. On October 15, 1890, David Hennessey while walking down the street, he wouldn't succumb to his injuries until the very next day, but it sent a clear message to the police department. The Italian mafia was here to stay. The police department retaliated by arresting about a hundred people associated with this particular crime family, although most of them would go on to be released due to lack of evidence. But nonetheless, tension grew between the Italians and the Americans, between the police force and the crime families. Tension that seemed to culminate in 1918 with the emergence of the Axe Man. Now the Axe Man had technically 12 victims. Six passed away and six ended up surviving. And like most, we saw a mass amount of confusion and finger pointing before the city of New Orleans figured out that they were dealing with the same person in every case. Now because the victims of the Axe Man were all Italian families, there was speculation in the beginning that these were hits families were putting on each other. And that still seems to be one of the biggest and well accepted explanations of what happened with the Axe Man. Because you see the identity of the Axe Man is still unknown to this day. On May 23, 1918, Joseph and Catherine Maggio were sleeping in their apartment behind their grocery store. A lot of the grocery stores at this point in New Orleans were run by Italian families. And from what I know today, you still can find some really nice Italian food in the French Quarter of New Orleans from the descendants of these Italians that immigrated over to America during this time. Now, Joseph's brother Andrew also lived in the apartment with his brother and his wife. Andrew was the one that discovered the bodies the next day. Their throats, the razor that was used on their throats was found in the neighbor's yard. And the interesting thing about this razor is it resembled a razor that Andrew, Joseph's brother, who found the bodies used at his barbershop. Andrew quickly became the prime suspect in his brother and his sister in law's death. But according to Andrew, he only discovered the body super early in the morning because he had been out drinking with his friends the night before and came home rather drunk. It seems that Andrew was about to join the Navy, and this was a bit of a hurrah celebration before he set off into his new life serving the United States. And then a little bit over a month later, on June 27 of 1918, Louis Beesumer and his mistress Harriet Lowe were also attacked. Once again, they were staying in Louis's apartment behind his Italian grocery store. Now, things got really interesting with this case because Harriet, the female, attacked again was Louis's mistress and not his wife. It seems his wife was up in Cincinnati during this time.  Louis would also go on to survive. Their bodies were discovered around 7am by a bakery driver, a driver dropping off goods to the grocery store. When the police investigated the apartment, they found a bunch of letters that Louis had written in other languages, and they concocted this idea that Louis was a German spy. Well, Harriet, who was still in the hospital trying to recover from her wounds, confirmed that Louis was a German spy and therefore was responsible for the attacks that she received and he received as well. Harriet ended up losing her life on August 5th of 1918. Louis was apprehended for both the charge of being a spy and also the attack of his mistress, although he would be acquitted on May 1 of 1919. On August 5th, the same day that Harriet Lowe lost her life, there was another attack from the Axeman. This was an attack on a woman named Anna Schneider. She was 28 years old and she was 8 months pregnant. She was discovered by her husband a little bit after midnight as he had just gotten off a late shift at work. After she was rushed to the hospital, she ended up giving birth to their daughter two days later. On August 10th of 1919, an elderly man named Joseph Romano was attacked. He lived with his two nieces. The nieces eventually found their uncle and called for backup. People in New Orleans realized that they had a serious issue on their hand and started to panic. People claimed that they were finding axes all over the neighborhood. Axes in their backyard, they felt like someone had tampered with their own personal axe, which is how the Axeman did it. He would always use an axe that belonged to the person that he was attacking. But you can't really blame people for this mass hysteria. After all, all the suspects that the police had interviewed or detained at this point all turned out to be innocent. It was becoming clearer that there was a maniac on the loose, an maniac who was targeting a specific group of people, the Italian immigrants. But all would be silent for about seven months. The Axeman wouldn't strike again until March 10th of 1919 and this was by far one of the most gruesome attacks. This took place in the neighborhood of Gretna, which is kind of like its own little incorporated town. It's right across the Mississippi River from New Orleans. So even though in some research you might think it's a totally different town, it's literally right there in the vicinity of where the Axeman had been working. This time the Axeman attacked a whole family, a father, a mother, and their small, small daughter. Charles, Cortamiglia, his wife, Rosie. And again, their very small daughter, Mary. Charles and Rosie would go on to survive the attacks. Unfortunately, their baby girl lost her life. And it wasn't long until Rosie started pointing the finger at their neighbors, the Giordano's. The father and the son of the Giordano's are the ones who had actually discovered the bodies and notified the police. Rosie believed that the Giordano's had put a hit on her and her husband because they were competing grocers in the area. Even though they were competitive in their marketing and business, Charles quickly said no, that this family was not responsible for the attacks. Nonetheless, the father and the son were arrested. The father was told that he would serve a life sentence, and the son was told that he would receive a corporal punishment. Eventually Rosie withdrew her statement saying that no, it wasn't them, and she was just delusional. And so the father and the son were released. And even though they had been arrested, it really didn't look like it was likely for them to be the culprits, giving that the father was extremely old and feeble. And the son was a really, really big man who would have had a hard time getting into the house on his own. A few days later, the police department in New Orleans received an anonymous letter claiming to be from the Axe Man. This letter was written on March 13, 1919, and it goes as follows, esteemed mortals of New Orleans. They have never caught me, and they never will. They have never seen me, for I'm invisible, even as the ether that surrounds your earth.  I am what you or Linneans and your foolish police call the Axe Man. When I see fit, I shall come and claim other victims. I alone know whom they shall be. I shall leave no clue except my bloody axe, the spirit, blood, and brains of he who I have sent below to keep me company. If you wish, you may tell the police to be careful not to rile me. Of course I am a reasonable spirit. I take no offense at the way they have conducted their investigations in the past.  But tell them to beware. Let them not try to discover what I am. For if it were better that they were never be born than to incur the wrath of the Axe Man. I don't think there is any need of such a warning, for I feel sure the police will always dodge me as they have in the past. They are wise and know how to keep away from all hot. Undoubtedly, you norlyans think of me as the most horrible which I am, but I could be much worse if I wanted to. If I wished, I could pay a visit to your city every night. At will I could slay thousands of your best citizens and at the worst, for I am in a close relationship with the angel of death. Now to be exact, at 12.15 earthly time, on next Tuesday night, I am going to pass over New Orleans. In my infinite mercy, I am going to make a little proposition to you people. Here it is. I am very fond of jazz music and I swear by all the devils and the nether regions that every person shall be spared and whose home a jazz band is in full swing at the time I have just mentioned. If everyone has jazz band going on, well then so much better for you people. One thing is certain and that is that some of your people who do not jazz it out on the specific Tuesday night, if there be any, will get the axe. Well as I am cold and cream the worth of my native Tartarus and it is about time I leave your earthly home, I will cease my discourse hoping that thou wilt publish this, that it may go well with thee. I have been and will be the worst spirit that ever existed either in fact or the realm of fantasy. So needless to say, on that Tuesday night, jazz music filled the streets of New Orleans. For those who were lucky enough to own a radio, they could play it from the radio. Others had to hire bands to come and specifically play jazz so that the axmen would avoid their house. According to my research, most families that are from New Orleans and have ancestors that experienced this tell wild stories of the night of the jazz music. And of course that night no human life was lost. The axmen would not strike again until August 10th of 1919. This of course was the one year anniversary of the slaying of Joseph Romero. Only this time it was a man named Steve Boca who once again was an Italian grocer. Steve Boca would survive the attack. The axman would attack again on September 3rd of 1990. This time a 19 year old girl who lived alone named Sarah Lowman. And then on October 27th of 1919 the axman would claim his last victim. This was a man named Mike Pepitone. Now after again Mike Pepitone, the axman never struck anyone in New Orleans. Pretty soon there was an urban legend circling around that the suspect, the main guy, was a guy named Joseph Monfrey. And this legend existed that he was taken out in Los Angeles by the widow of Mike Pepitone. However this name doesn't exist on any rosters and many people today don't think that this story any type of factual basis to it. Perhaps it was just a story created by the police department to calm the citizens of New Orleans down. To reassure them that this horrific time in New Orleans history was over. Many people today believe that the story of the axman has a very logical explanation. Many people believe that because of all the tension between the crime families in Italy that these people who were taken out were literal mafia hits. And once all the hits were complete the person that was hired to make these hits just returned back to Sicily. However at the time many New Orleans believed that there was something more sinister at play. Something paranormal, something demonic. Even the letter sent to the police department emphasized that the person doing these horrific crimes was not a person at all but a demon. Perhaps a summoned demon. Now many people might scoff at that and think that's just the logic of an older generation. But they had a reason to believe this. And that reason goes all the way back to 1911 with a case that many people believed at the time was actually connected to this case. Again since then people say no they're not connected at all but I'm not so sure myself. We know now that the spirit world is almost if not more real than our own world and even though the spirit world is powerful sometimes human beings are more powerful. Sometimes human beings can summon these dark entities to do their bidding. And many people believe that is what happened from 1918 to 1919 in New Orleans, Louisiana. That story is coming up on Friday. All right thank you so much for sitting through another story. Please leave me your thoughts and your opinions down in the comment section below. Thank you again to Josh McKay for doing our music. If you would like to purchase the opening song again there is a link for that down in the description box below. And as always thank you to Todd Roderick for helping me get this video out to you all today. Hold the line, hang tight, we're almost there and the best is yet to come. I'll talk to you soon. Bye.


All right, fellas. This is really important. Get your testosterone levels checked. It's very important for the last five decades or so. We've been observing this is well known observing testosterone levels declining on a consistent rate. We're also looking at fertility has declined. In fact, the man today has half the sperm that his grandfather had. So things are getting weird. Get your testosterone levels checked. See where they're at. Of course, there's a hormone that helps with drive confidence, muscle mass, fat loss, cognitive performance and function. Low testosterone, very unhealthy. Get it tested at the very least. Find a baseline that you're at. So you can test it later on and compare it. But many of you may have low testosterone and don't realize it. This reminds me of actually, I wanted to ask Doug this, would you look up the, the growth of hormone clinics over the last five years? I know on the show predicted a while back that, you know, it reminded me of the green rush when marijuana clubs hit the market. And we saw that like just explode. It felt very similar to the same thing. And I want to see how many clinics are now out there when we first, first started. Cause it's, it seems like this is, and I feel like this is why we're going to see it explode is because this is becoming more real issue now. Yeah. It's becoming more and more. It's not common knowledge yet, but it's getting there. We're, well, what's crazy is that this has been observed for like five decades that we've seen testosterone levels consistently decline, um, you know, every year. Uh, and now there's lots of speculation as to why, uh, you know, some people say it's lifestyle. We're moving less. You can't really reduce it down to a few things. It's all, it's a multitude of factors, chemicals, right? There's certain chemicals that are estrogenic or, uh, have effects in the body. Okay. If we had, okay. If the three of us had to check like the top five, how would you order them? Oh, how would I, I would 100% order, um, chemicals as number one. Whoa, really? I would over sleep. I would, I would put that number one. I wouldn't have done this before, but the more and more I learn about, um, these chemicals and the, the, how they're powerful. Yeah. Oh my God. There's one in particular. I can't remember the name of it. I got to find it. There's one in particular that was banned in Europe and, uh, not banned here and it's still being used and it's been shown. I'm going to pull it up right now. Interesting. See, I would, I would lay, I would put, uh, atrazine. Have you guys heard of atrazine? It wreaks havoc with the sex lives of adult male frogs, emasculating three quarters of them and turning one out of 10 into females. By the way, this was, uh, what's his name? Alex Jones. Alex Jones talked about He's always the, the alarmist like super like crazy version of like what, you know, may potentially be some truth. So yeah, I, so that was in water, like in some of the drinking water. Is that where they found it? Yeah. So, um, it's, it's an herbicide and it's our food and water supply. Um, and, uh, the, the European Union banned it, but it's not banned. That's one, by the way, there's so many different chemicals that, uh, can affect your hormone system. Wow.  That's crazy. Yeah. Cause we're exposed at like ridiculous levels now. I mean, I don't, I mean, like, I don't have an argument really. I just, I just, I, my theory is I think, uh, diet and lack of movement has to be up there. Definitely. I would go, I would say that's up in their top three. Yeah. Right. I would, I would say that for sure. Because you see this across the board. You see this with athletes too. They test testosterone levels with athletes. Those are going down too. Now they still have good testosterone, but it's been affected. So they've actually, they've actually separated athletic men and compared them. There's not great studies, but there are some studies that show. Oh, see, I didn't know that. Yeah. And then fertility. Wow. So here's the other one. It's not just, uh, testosterone. It's also fertility. Like I said, our, our, we are producing half the sperm that a generation or two. Wouldn't those be correlated though?  If you go down testosterone. Yeah, it's yeah. Um, I mean, maybe yeah, they could be connected for sure. Um, but, but I don't know if you would produce necessarily less sperm because you're not as active. Maybe your sperm wouldn't be as healthy. Maybe not. Maybe it's not a, a, a, um, you know, causation, but I would say there's a pretty direct connection. There's a direct correlation to that. So that's kind of like a, like, but like fertility, this is like a big deal. Um, you know, if we, if we really, if we mess with our, at this rate, I don't remember what the statistics show, but at this rate, I think within a couple of generations, like we're not going to be able to make kids anymore. Um, so it's pretty crazy. So yeah. And the reason why I'm saying this is that is, you know, go get your testosterone levels checked and there's a range that you're going to get with considered, um, you know, common. That's not necessarily what's healthy. The common range is like this really low to really high. You want to be towards the upper range of that, especially if you're in your 20s.  What does that say right there? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So it can directly affect. So, uh, yeah, they are correct. They are connected, but I don't know, man, it's, it's wild when you look at the data and how long we've known that this has been happening and how nobody's really been.  I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have guessed you to say that chemicals is number one. I mean, that's, that's, that's pretty wild to me. Yes. And I know like where the backlash on that would be is like the, the, the studies on like all these chemicals individually by themselves, right? Like in, and it's what you're not accounting for, which there is no studies for is something that takes an account. All of these different chemicals that we are constantly either breathing in, touching, sleeping in, rubbing in our skin and what that does potentially, right? It's like, they wouldn't get past FDA, wouldn't be approved for usage if that, that as by itself at high levels wasn't safe and okay to use. But what no one is doing is saying like, oh yeah, well, what do you put in your hair? What do you put on your skin? What do you sleep on your bed? What's on your, what's on your, if you're already unhealthy, how much of a more massive impact that makes sure that's another immune systems a bit more compromised. And so having like all these other external factors come in and, you know, go through the population with the virus healthy, being fit and healthy allows your body to detox these chemicals faster and easier too. So you're likely to build up some of these loads. But I mean, for sure, the fact that people are less active, getting less sun, probably worse sleep in their diet is worse is definitely up there. So I mean, you know, if I saw a study that said that, that was more of an impact than what I would have, what it shocked me know. But I definitely think that. Yeah, I just, I think that we would all agree on that for sure. I mean, that one for me is like a no brainer, but that's also personal because of my personal experience. Like, I have felt that like dramatic difference because of I went through somebody who's synthetically taken, you know, lots of hormones and then not taking them and then gone through the natural dip afterwards and then felt what that felt like and then also felt what it felt like to dial the diet in and strength train and like what a dramatic and I also tried all the different supplementation and I've tried to, you know, limit all the chemicals. I've done a lot of that stuff to try and, you know, do my best of naturally increasing it. And to me, nothing felt more than eating, eating healthy, high protein, good amount of healthy fats, good calories and strength training at least like that. Yeah, that I like felt that. Well, strength training helps with testosterone in two ways. It raises testosterone consistently if done right of all forms of exercise it does at the best. And then it also does this kind of double whammy where it up regulates androgen receptors. That's the, that's where the testosterone attaches to. So you get a rise in testosterone plus the testosterone that you do have becomes more potent in your body because of increased androgen receptor receptors because of more muscle mass. So it's the single most impactful thing you can do aside with sleep and diet. Now the chemical stuff, you know, the reason why that's a hard one to focus on is because like where do I start? What's the biggest offender? Like, you know, what do I do? But lifting weights, you know, eating good, getting good sleep, those alone can have hugely protective benefits. Well, strength, strength, diet, strength, diet and sleep are the only three, two that you could literally measure instantly, right? That's the difference. Like you, you get porced, like measure someone's testosterone after a good night's three, right? It's the same time, right? Eight in the morning they wake up what their testosterone levels are. Now intentionally have terrible sleep the next day and measure it and you'll see a drop. Do the same thing with, you know, starve your body of nutrients for a day, test it, see what happens, feed it appropriately, test it, see what happens. Same thing goes with strength training, no strength training whatsoever. Do it, test it and see what happens and there's this, that's why, that's why those make the top three for me, because they're that dramatic that like you could literally remove them or manipulate them in a single day and see a fluctuation on that. Yeah, well with food it would take a little longer, but the point you're making is, is true. Like if you, if you work out and you eat right and you sleep right, let's say you test your testosterone levels today and then for 60 days you get really good sleep in comparison to what you were getting before, your diet's a lot better in comparison and your lifting weights appropriately, I say appropriately because you could overdo it right or do it wrong, but your lifting weights appropriately so you're stronger at the end of 60 days significantly, then go get your testosterone levels checked and it's almost guaranteed you'll see an improvement. It's almost guaranteed you'll see better total levels, better free testosterone and then you can't measure this necessarily, but you, you should have increased density of androgen receptors. Today's program giveaway is maps split. Here's how you can win. Leave a comment below this video in the first 24 hours that we drop it. Subscribe to this channel and turn on notifications. If you win, we'll let you know in the comment section. We're also running a sale on some programs right now. Our beginner strength training program, map starter is 50% off and then we have a bundle that includes maps anabolic and maps prime. That's also 50% off. If you're interested, just click on the link at the top of the description below. All right, back to the show. By the way, did you guys, there's a study that's being circulating right now. This is how crazy, so it's so weird when we started the podcast, we identified the fitness industry at large, the the marketing behind it, the supplement selling, make everybody feel bad about themselves, buy our shit. Here's terrible information, side of the fitness industry as the enemy that we were trying to really counter and fix because they weren't helping anybody, but what's becoming more and more evident is there's another enemy that's coming out against people's health and this one's a little bit more way more nefarious. Scary and nefarious and cunning and they play a long game and it's repeating itself. It's weird. So I'll read you the title of the study that is making its rounds right now. First off, the title itself, they're already politicizing the study to try to make it sound a particular way, but I'll read the title here. This is what's been flying everywhere. Testosterone administration induces a red shift in Democrats. That's what they're saying. So let me break it down for you because this is not the first study to show that. There's actually multiple studies that show not what that title said. I want everybody to just relax for a second because that's a politicized title.  But what the study found has been found in previous studies. So here's what they found. First off, in the study itself, hardcore Democrats, hardcore Republicans, give them testosterone. They don't change their views. People who are in the middle who kind of lean a little bit and will label it as left tend to go more towards the right when they're given testosterone. Now what people need to understand is it's not necessarily I was a Democrat now I'm a Republican. That's how they're labeling it. What it is is when they give men who like more regulations, more help, government, safety nets, you know, less kind of free market type stuff, that kind of stuff more like quote-unquote you know safety from big brother when they're they move towards that with low testosterone. You give them testosterone then they move towards more well we should be more free. We should let free markets kind of thrive a little bit more. I don't think you should be monitoring us that much for our quote-unquote safety. We should be able to protect ourselves that kind of stuff. Now they've labeled it left and right and I guess you could loosely do that but really what it is in a nutshell is that testosterone is a feel-good, confident, empowering, empowering kind of hormone. Anybody who's ever been low testosterone versus high testosterone can tell you that's the case. So people who go from low to high testosterone become more likely to want less control and smaller government or if you look a little deeper or less harder to manipulate. Which the state does not like. Right. Right. So they paint it as like it's a red shift and testosterone does this or whatever like that doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna vote Republican. You can also vote Libertarian or vote for more I guess small government Democrats who if any of them exist these days but people advocating for their own health. Yes. Less manipulatable. That also kind of strengthens what I've been talking about and people have called me some you know conspiracy. I've gotten so much negative stuff in the past but now people are starting to come around where I've said man I'm starting to see more and more articles demonizing fitness.  Yeah you have to look at because the best marketers the most I guess the smartest most cunning manipulative marketers in the world work for politics they spend billions of dollars is studying it for decades for a long time they're really good getting people to kind of to change their behaviors or to be scared or angry or hate people they're really good at that especially the negative emotions so we got to piece it all together right so we're getting articles that say things like lifting weights makes men more aggressive muscle is toxic masculinity gyms are these unaccepting places they're fat phobic this one said the far rights obsession with fitness was this other article now that's making it then you combine that with fat is beautiful health at any size you know kind of like promoting unhealthy body image in the opposite extreme with obesity and stuff like that and if you piece all that together we start to see is they just want us to be very healthy weak unhealthy obedient conformists yes they want they don't want us to be very healthy because they can't sell us as much stuff they can't scare us as much they we're not going to make buy as many pharmaceuticals and especially men because men you know if you if you really weaken man boys it's easy to take over a whole movie or whatever yeah so that's kind of it's that's it's pretty alarming everybody's oh this is no man look at like like it's starting to happen it's really starting to be like this study again it's so funny the way that they worded it it's like this red shift like they're already trying to make people demonize testosterone you know I mean the part that I always have a hard time with this is like who is they who's they you speak of well there's obviously people putting it out yeah okay so they all are they all meeting together well you know we don't all each other and text each other they're on a group thread like who I think I think anybody who who falls under the intelligence agencies well I mean if you want to go that far that's well that's what you're alluding to yeah yeah I mean that's I mean who is they like it who is they and are they all aligned with the way they're colluding or is it just I think look how everybody was in collusion with like all the different companies and media companies they're all saying the same exact message yeah through the entire COVID process yeah very plausible that they have an initiative to you know control the population and get us to do what they want look here's a thing too whenever especially when there's elections coming up you see the fear-mongering scale the fuck up why because it's very easy to get people to vote a particular way if you scare them and it's easier to get them to hate someone than it is to get them to love someone so it just it just yeah I get that I get that because and then I mean anytime there is a lot of money or power at stake this is when the most effort is going to be put forth right and so when it comes to you know running for the president like there's nothing more powerful and potentially impacting money-wise and so there's going to be a ton of effort and money put behind swaying people one way or another you know but when we say things like day I'm always just like you know who like who is like who is getting together and all organizing it like this to collude and actually you know control that big of a narrative and is it like a handful of people is it like hundreds of people that are all is it working I mean what's what's defined working well shaping the culture and and changing the way that we word things and accept certain concepts and you know all of it is like a very systematic way of like receiving information I mean is that fear and thought process any different than our dad's dad well I'll tell you what so but it's I mean look I'll tell you what there's articles now that I you wouldn't you couldn't even imagine 10 years ago getting published you couldn't imagine could you imagine an article I know that right by demonizing fitness 15 years ago everybody like what what are you talking about why would you what are you talking about demonizing fitness like it's it's great it's like fitness is good for you that's why it's absurd doesn't make sense unless it's like part of some reason well I mean but back to my point with your dad's dad I mean your dad's dad would say that about commercials television articles clothing that kids can wear the stuff they can watch and see like music they can listen to that if you if you went back in time just 60 years yeah project some of the things that we we think is totally normal I think would your they would be freaking out one of the most well-known thought you know when this happened one of the most well-known occurrences like this was when big tobacco colluded with regular regulators and government to lie about the connection between cancer and tobacco that was that's all well documented yeah and that's a very exact good example of who they is like they're like they is the the company tobacco that you know they're in the it's they're looking out for their best interest to make the most amount of money and so they put out all this narrative that is like so that's why when I say they who is they in this situation because that's very clear to me that's very clear that and why they would do that they're motivated into profiting sorry I think it's hard to define because there's so it's so elusive right it's like you can go down a rabbit hole and then there's disinformation misinformation that you know purposely kind of leads you in in crazy directions but there's also a lot of truth uh in when you look back and look at a lot of lies and you look at a lot of manipulation and fraud and deliberate things that were passed uh based off of you know some of these these things that they're trying to sway people's opinion yeah by the way what you're doing right now adam whether you realize it or not is how people try to argue down any concern oh yeah well who's the boogeyman name them what does he look like I'll tell you who they is it's the ideology I don't give a fuck who's behind it they when I say they it's this insane ideology that is starting to get promoted that is telling people that it's good to be unhealthy that it's bad to have testosterone that it's bad to lift weights it's toxic that it's good to stay at home that it's good to just jerk off to pour not meet with people that that that's all good and all the other stuff is bad and it's not that bad for you don't worry about it let your kids be on there all day long it's not a big like that's they I don't whoever it is I don't care it's the ideology that I want to counter and well do you think that's and when it comes to health and fitness that's my space that's that's that's do you think that's do you think though that maybe it is an example like the tobacco one where it's actually a collection of all these different companies and politicians and people but we're grouping them all in together's day and they're really not all clothing together it's like this group it cares about the messaging around health and fitness because it's what serves them and their agenda this group over here is is putting out this message because it serves them for this and then a lot a lot that collectively doesn't align with your ideology and value and so then you lump them as they as if they're on the same team when in reality it's a bunch of individuals that are trying to profit or yeah I don't know if it's a game power interesting because if you could yeah and I see you're going with that but like it to like what's the article about it's about like Democrats like turning into the Republicans all of a sudden by going to the gym if I'm going to sum it up right like so so now it's like oh well then what is it the Democratic Party like putting out this information to try and salvage like you know cause hysteria towards anybody that's going into the gym I have no idea why that would be the case it's just really it's it's uh I don't know it's really weird to see and to read look um think about the market right now all the markets like all the stuff out there products think of all the products that you can buy that are very profitable now think of a healthy consumer and all you know in in every sense of the word healthy physically mentally stable versus an unhealthy consumer okay which one is more valuable to most of the markets that are out there walk through the grocery store how many foods are attractive or are going to be purchased by healthy consumers versus unhealthy consumers pharmaceutical drugs how many drugs are taken by healthy consumers versus unhealthy consumers habits how many habits are are are taken up and spent money on and money spent on by unhealthy versus healthy and so on so it's just maybe they're I mean I'm not saying that there's one like well so like lizard king that's really one of the reasons why I have a really hard time like even like like getting bought into any any idea like this like of the of they or is that the where we get this information the article you're reading right now is through news news outlets and social media platforms and they are not incentivized to tell the truth on either side they're incentivized to get eyeballs and clicks right and anytime that you incentivize a bit and if you don't you die like if you do not get more clicks and views than a company who is all out to set tell the truth the one that's all it will not get advertisers will not get views will not get clicks and will eventually dissolve unless you find somebody who is just out there that wants to pump billions of dollars into pharmaceutical companies right right so you're gonna have these people that are are driving or that are driving clicks and so they're incentivized to do that so it's in their best interest to put news out whether it's on the left or the right to be alarming and to get us to discuss debate talk share and and do stuff about so they're incentivized to to kind of lie about things or exaggerate things because that's what gets people talking about it if the if the truth is kind of like not okay so lame and and boring and not as as as radical and scary and crazy and conspiracy like then they're not gonna say it or share it because it's not good enough here's a deal there's definitely some truth in that but and i used to think that was all it was until i started seeing more companies seemingly purposely tank themselves tank themselves i'm like why are you doing this you saw what happened to this company they got destroyed now you're getting crushed and then you see another company doing you're getting crushed wait a minute you guys know that consumers aren't buying into this and then you learn about things like esg and these boards that operate and influence from the top down not the consumer driving but rather them influencing through regulation investors saying you must have products like this you must represent this otherwise you're not getting this is all real by the way you look up otherwise you're not getting funding and so that's why right now you look at companies like how why would they do that don't they know they're going to get destroyed here's why they're doing it because they're told to do it from a top down type of model so i wish it was pure market-based because it would be a little bit better it wouldn't be i think like i said it seems to be accelerating yeah and the fact that they're coming after fitness is insane to me it's absolutely insane to me because it's there's nothing that it does that's bad you could of course approach it in a bad way and connect dots too it's it is it's a tough line to toe without sounding like you're just a pissed off lunatic you know but to the stats we were talking about earlier about like how much the influence of the pharmaceutical companies have on all the marketing share of every media outlet here is alarming as hell yeah and people should really look into that and then decide for themselves how much of that information is really authentically coming from you know to me that's way more cut and clear right i mean that's just like that's very it's very that's very obvious you can tie that into what we're talking about is my point yeah well i mean that's that that goes back to my point of like you know are we lumping these all these separate things into one when they're this one might be isolated right might be like pharmaceutical companies are obviously like incentivize to control the narrative on pro their drug and avoid conversation around things that are anti theirs right that's obvious and so they're going to control that they're going to do everything in their power to do that through money with these networks that's obvious to me but then you go over to the fitness one so like that like i don't know if that's the same people that are colluding i think that i think both those things tend to not align with your ideology so you're arguing that you don't think that there's like this like i think i think there's probably to what you're bringing up there is probably a very specific or isolated situation that is that or reason behind what that is and i and i'm also saying that it could be as simple as like we know that this is controversial and that this will get a bunch of debates and talks and arguments and fighting amongst people because that there is going to be a right wing person that is going to defend this and be a left wing person to go the other way and so we're just going to put that bullshit out there even though it doesn't have a lot of legs to it but we know that it's going to get talked about i don't know it is interesting because i like i said i keep seeing layers to this one i know i think that's where people will get tripped up and i think what it means is that you're right on a layer but then there's higher layer and then doesn't it also i mean here here i'm going to dip into your guys a little conspiracy thing because here's where the the conspiracy side of me comes out is like all of it is just put out there because it what's really going behind the scenes has nothing to do with anything you think it's like this is all to get you all distracted just like the coliseum was you know back in the days is just like pay attention to all this fighting left i think is all just yeah pay attention to all this crazy drama and argue over these articles so that meanwhile we're doing some backdoor shit on you that you're not even you have is not connected to none of that bullshit because that's because you're not looking in that direction at the end of the day though i will say this uh whatever is going on a person is in the best position to not be manipulated or taking advantage of or go down the wrong path uh if you will if they're the fit healthy version of themselves in other words regardless of whoever is messing with you you're less likely to be messed with if you're truly healthy if you're really healthy i mean that on every sense not just physical but mental spiritual solid you feel good um you're just harder to mess with you're harder to mess with not saying it's you're impervious it's just you feel confident you feel strong you're less likely to be afraid you're less like equipped you have more you have more positive filter through which you view things um you're more likely to be kind this is all proven by the way like you're less irritable like it's so funny to me how how they'll paint like people who work out as being aggressive or whatever that's not so opposite uh being unhealthy uh having low testosterone all that stuff more inflamed makes you irritable makes you feel like shit when you're fit and healthy you feel good you're less likely to be aggressive not more likely you know i mean i feel like a lot of you might look scarier but you're not scarier i feel like a lot of them to say something that it's probably gonna cause even more people to not like me today um what you said today you've already done that so much today so i'm already i know i'm winning people over right now uh so mays we'll go all in um i i think personally that almost all of this can go back to the the movement in our culture to remove god from everything oh well because a lot to me that's where all of this stems from it stems from this like trying to go the opposite direction so hard without foreseeing where that leads and in in theory you know say whatever how many years ago or how many decades ago that began happening where we started to move in that direction you didn't foresee like the slippery slope that that led to and now you're committed and you're all into that of rejecting god so hard that you didn't see where that was going to you know it's me that is less conspiratorial and more easily could have happened you know what's interesting about what you're saying forget the metaphysical you know the the whole like that that side of it just look at the uh the psychology look at psychology look at history structure and the discipline look at well not just that look at um how we evolved how cultures developed it's pretty clear that people need a unifying belief system uh in order to continue to work together and move in the right direction that's right it's just more efficient it's just it's clear so and along those lines think we we had found one that has had had kept us moving in this this this collective direction for you know hundreds of years thousands and just recently okay we have decided that we are going to dismantle it and and that has been growing in that direction and I think what we see unfolding is all the repercussions from that and then and it's easy to think that there's this they group that is controlling your movement or it's just that like a bunch of idiots we've sold this idea so hard that this god thing is this made up this guy thing and that's so bad for us and so we're going the opposite direction and what we are happening to see in our lifetime is what the unfolding of that looks like and why we probably for thousands of years stayed in that you know what I like to tell people who are like uh who are like atheists or whatever is because I was there too is look at the commonalities between the most widely practiced religions and what you'll find is spiritual truth so because they get caught up in the well how do you know your religion is the right one how do you know this is the right one like forget that for a second look at the commonalities and what you'll find there is wisdom uh and in human behavior that's what you'll find you'll find that the reason why these people did this that people do this this people that and why they all believed in this particular way is because it works there's some spiritual truth and what I find very interesting is like you know religions will talk about sin or you know what you do that's wrong or whatever what's interesting that all goes down to that uh people whether we are aware of it or not because we act willingly like we have choice at least we believe we have choice but whatever you want to argue uh at the end of the day we end up following something that we worship whether we would know so we know or not it's like at the end of the day I am choosing something because I like better than something else and when you take that out then then again human behavior shows that you take God out you end up following like earthly things that we know are not good like money pleasure power like all these things that we know we all know like even atheists will tell you oh yeah if you you worship money power pleasure honor it's like those are all they turn people into evil people so I mean you could be right well and I also think to close the loop on the whole they argument that I'm trying to make is that it's also in our nature to want to blame it on a thing or find a a culprit right I mean that's like I mean they've known that forever it's like how we get convince us to go to war and stuff like that as we find an enemy it's he's could and some have been lauded is the one who's responsible for all this or so and so is this or the left is this or the right is that it's like we it's in our human nature to want to do that when I don't I don't think it's this isolated person or maybe you're in the mirror I think it's yeah it is more in the I think it's more us as a society and that this is what happens when you remove something that is so important to a culture and I think it's unfolding right before our eyes and what do we what do we do we want to point the finger at each other no it's your fault no it's your fault no it's their fault it's the left's fault it's the right's fault and in reality it's like no this is what happens when you remove that and it's playing out real time for us give me more distractions give me more drugs there's definitely bad actors though still well I mean that's now that I'm not arguing I'm saying there's no I totally I see your train of thought and I totally yeah all of that yeah and I and in terms of like the dismantling and the fracturing the chaos that ensues when you don't have a common well here you open a can of worms fine we'll go down that so okay so do you think that in that case in that context that there's spiritual warfare going on then yeah of course that they is the the bad spiritual side that's I mean I do because that's my belief you could look at it too it's like the dark side of human behavior versus like you know following you know more of a positive like that's a less esoteric way to look at it it's a less esoteric way to look at it so you'd get people are driven by maybe nefarious means because it brought them what they were looking for which was power which was money which was influence which was these things that got them to this place in powerful position and so now they're just implementing the same tactics but they're the ones now that have the seat you know what sucks about all this what sucks is that the people that we tend to elect or put in charge the type of people that desire that position so badly are the wrong ones exactly the people we don't want to are saying for that right the best leaders the ones that don't want to that yeah it's like those are the those are and it's like it's so funny those people have been eyeballing that position since they were probably damn drunk it's a push forward and they're like ah no yeah I know I know I wish they know it entails I wish we had a different way of the way we elected people to run cities run our run our be our leaders right it's just the way we do it is not the right way we did it in this gamesmanship way and you know it's turned into a way of manipulating and stepping on people to get to that dude they're gonna spend like like four billion dollars for this presidential election four billion dollars why so much money because there's a lot of influence and a lot of shit happening there otherwise it wouldn't be so much much money in it oh yeah nope there wouldn't be the irony generating so much the irony of that when we're we're in this trillion dollar debt right we spend billions of dollars so much just so we just spend less over what asshole should be elected when none of these assholes should be all corporate influence I agree and then the best time we actually you know what we bet we probably would find a better leader for this country by blindly fucking throwing a rock into a crowd yeah like this guy looks like a good guy there's a good lady that guy he doesn't want to be a Bob yeah Bob you're the president I don't know anything don't worry you'll figure it out either the last guy no my favorite is at the end of it like you're a good guy Bob at the this has this by the way what happens every single time at the end of it you have two candidates and everybody's like that's the two people we have to pick from how did this happen yeah every time what was the South Park did an episode I think it was a oh yeah it was a turd sandwich versus like a douche bag douche bag those are the two choices they had to vote for for the school that still holds true welcome to the cable access televised debate between a giant douche and a turd sandwich yeah I gotta watch South Park they're so good they are they're so good they really are I would I tell you what you know people ask us all the time like and I never think of them as a name but of like oh who would you love to interview like that oh yeah you had Trey Parker do you know that they went to you know this you know I talked about this finally they bring up something I had up here to talk about oh good so they went did you guys know they went to I think it was Academy Award show yeah dressed in J Lo's dress yeah like the the the the green one that was like got her all this yeah the famous attention's dress and they were tripping on acid yeah and the other one was like Gwen Gwen Paltrow or something yeah they're I love those guys they're so hilarious so could you imagine like an interview the just hanging out with them oh would be a so check this move out right so you know this episode specifically but they Cartman like has this like loves Casa Bonita it's like this big Mexican restaurant that's like amazing and it's got all this entertainment as like cliff divers and they have like all these very specific it sounded like real specific it's a real place apparently oh really and so there's a real Casa Bonita yeah there's a real Casa Bonita and it like went out of business because it's just like it's it was all entertainment the food wasn't really great you know and it was like but it was all part of the childhood of a I guess the South Park creators and so they have this like kinship to it and so they decided that I guess through the pandemic or whatever it just got obliterated you know that was like the end of them and so they had the opportunity to talk to the owner to acquire it and now I guess they could have just demolished it started over and rebuilt it for fraction of the cost but they were like no no we want to just like improve it refurbish it and they're like this is going to be expensive like no this is going to be astronomical you know how much they're in already how much for refurbishing this place huh 40 million wow what look can we look it up can we see pictures I want to go there yeah where's it so they have real cliff divers that like perform and they do extra so they wanted to redo it 40 million would it like a disneyland yeah it's basically it's like an amusement park almost it's gotta be pretty big to be 40 million it's big and so they're they're doing a soft launch right now where they're like they're sending emails for people to come check it out but it's like they're they're literally like this this would bankrupt us if we just stop doing what we're doing now so we have to keep working you know well so you know what I like about this is like a bunch of rich dudes who are like if we just break even I love that I love that so do I that's what you know I I thought it was so cool that's why we're gonna open a gym one that's a Robin Big was one of my favorite shows because of that because like like just the way they spent money it's like I remember being a kid being like this is like how I'd like one day we're all gonna open a gym with the same mentality and we're gonna be like if it breaks even that's all I care about and it's like everybody loved it it's got fond memories it's in Colorado so oh that's it right there yeah oh that's hilarious oh wow yeah so they redid all that that's where the cliff divers do their thing and so they put shows on every like I don't know 15 minutes or something you know what it reminds me of you guys there have been a Rainforest Cafe in Vegas anywhere yeah the Vegas house yeah the food sucks yeah but they got like you know entertaining things going on yeah yeah so they improved Colorado's not the place that would think for good Mexican food though maybe that's why it failed yeah maybe that's why so they actually brought in like a different chef and they because there's distinctive memories I guess some of the dishes but they weren't very good so they made those actually really good now but like the same kind of style is it they haven't you said soft launches coming yeah they're doing like just some people they're emailing in the area to come we should be able to get on a list like I would love I would love to go check it out send an email send an email yeah tell me we want to go there yeah yeah I tell what's up Casamonita yeah your Mexican food of Colorado I'll take the Bologna Breed yeah yeah with to it I would not it's even worse when I said Chicago oh my god Mexican food there yeah I love the everything else was amazing Mexican food no yeah I'd take Taco Bell when they make up Mexican food do you have family or friends like when you go to like other states or other cities that you know it's like not known for that food and they're like and they want to take you to like they promote it yeah yeah this is the best this is such good sushi I'm like there's not an ocean for like a long way it's not a banana sushi in the desert yeah disgusting less is coming on a private jet the same day bro it's not probably that great a sushi yeah that's so disgusting thanks so I there was a a study on on fitness and epigenetics I wanted to tell you guys about exercise obviously affects the body you you adapt to it but it also changes how your genes behave this is known as epigenetics so you have genes but your genetic can express themselves differently depending on the environment and we've long speculated that exercise will do this well now we have a study on twins where they'll have identical twins one of them's active the other one isn't and indeed exercise induces epigenetic changes that are protective against things like metabolic disease type 2 or diabetes so does that mean it's like absolutely changing your your profile it changes how your like your like your genes express themselves that's gonna be the ultimate ideal test group right yes always we don't have identical twins that's the goal stand because this because this also goes back to what I asked you a while back when um you had a rillius and we were talking about how muscular he was and of course your wife is very muscular so you know she got some of his genes but then I said do you think there's a difference of you compared to 20 year old you who had your first two like because you've changed you've built so much muscle like we know that there's change that information has to right cast on you I mean and an example that is you talk all the time about how once you build all this muscle up even when you lose it you get it right back because there's obviously a code that's been written there there's obviously a communication I mean it's it's plausible I mean I've been working out since I was 14 so I'm sure I had epigenetic changes then too but not to the level are the epigenetic changes that occur over time that are more profound I don't know doesn't influence how your sperm the type of DNA your sperm has and how it expresses itself we know that women when they're pregnant what they eat in their environment changes how genes are expressed in the in the womb so I mean it could be wouldn't that be weird if your personality is just literally the culmination of like like a couple hundred generations of people that you've just acquired the next version the next I mean the next version you know more vibrant and like why am I so scared and why am I of swimming you know yeah oh you're great and I get that fear oh yeah drown right yeah yeah you have four people that drown you'll ask to yikes down the tree there I know I know it's kind of weird anyway another thing too here this more health related I have a list of the because this is now starting to make arounds a little bit do you guys remember a while ago when that study came out that showed that vegan protein powders were the worst when it came to heavy metal contamination yeah do you guys remember that I remember we called organifi yeah I remember concerning yeah I remember you got the study right away and we this was like early on when we first were just starting to sign partners we were all excited because we thought well we got this great new partner and organifi was that partner and and that article came out shortly after and you're like fuck like what we cannot partner with this company if they're on there and I remember you yeah we got on the phone the next day no they test for all that so they're very clean but here's the worst ones that tested on these tests and and a lot of these are the most popular brands you'll see it like Whole Foods Garden of Life yeah oh that's a huge nature's best Quest 360 cut oh shit in Vega yeah Vega Quest chocolate milkshake protein powder and then Vega or Vega those are the worst ones those are all very popular Vega, Quest and Garden are like three of the very huge wow now how crappy is that like you're taking a protein powder and you're you're building toxic levels of heavy metals wow holy shit that's terrible wow yeah but Organified tests for all that stuff and they're they're excellent they have third party testing you can you can they're they're vegan protein powders legit they test also for glyphosate residue way more stuff than that they're required to test for to test for so take us back out of health and back into speculating since we're this is like a speculating episode all right I well I we went hard there for I know I'm gonna take it well maybe not so hard but I'm gonna take us back in that direction because it just reminded me of something that I was thinking about the other day that I thought was interesting and I would love to hear you guys kind of speculate on it so you know it's become obviously widely known that you know Instagram and these these social platforms where you post pictures and stuff of yourself is like this the ultimate highlight reel it's not real it's like this is like everybody's best what you want people to see yourself right right right and in fact there's also this kind of like counter movement where people started posting like you know like them with no makeup on and looking shitty and this like this the other it's always it'll be at the end of the carousel though right right and and even you get some people that completely like you know bash people for like only sharing these highlight reels of the life but then it got to me thinking is like like okay if just go back 20 years and you went over a friends or a family members house and you flip through their photo album would you not see their favorite pictures yeah same thing how is that any different well it's different because you it's it's 10 billion times more pictures now I mean not necessarily some people only post like a you know handful of pictures on their so generally speaking that's fine yeah yeah it's every day people that like but generally speaking we have pictures of ourselves way more than okay so that part is different yeah right so normally when you go through a photo album it's like you and your family and everything like that it's not a bunch of selfies I mean so that'll be fun if you have a sheet picture you throw it out like what's you wouldn't put it in a photo album you wouldn't frame it no so when you walk through someone's house and you look at all the framed pictures and you look at all the photo albums don't we do the same thing yeah sure we put all of our best looking photos the best when I was in Hawaii when I did you know what I'm saying like you don't yeah so I mean that we give it's the same thing it's just not it's now turbo charge times a million that's all so now you find somebody you meet somebody you look at their Instagram or the social media and you see a lot whereas before you meet somebody it's like you could access their album the only problem I think is with people that compare themselves so like they're the ones like looking like I have to be like you're looking outside of yourself like if you're just showing like hey you know it's a good picture of when we did this and this is a good picture of me and this you know outfit or whatever yeah that's great it's well I don't know like I saw this and so I have to try and do my best to look this way yeah no I see the like to Sal's point and what you're kind of looting to right now too is like it's been amplified that's all right it's totally been amplified my point is like there's like a lot of people that that make content that's like shitting on these people that like that make highlight reels of their life for that post all these pictures that have just the good times and it's like you know it's always those people that are like trying to promote the crying and the you know the bad pictures that's the fake the biggest thing ever ever well and I just think that it's funny because I was again I was just kind of thinking about I was like wait a second like my family came over for Max I'm sharing like the photo albums and I'm like oh wait these are like all the best pictures of course yeah and of course they are like oh no I feel like I shaved my back oh well it's going up yeah why would I put that in a photo album unless it's something that I really liked or something we did that was really cool and it's like I gotta be authentic yeah well it's all like so it's all stuff you want people to see about you so even if it's an unflattering picture what you're trying to show people is that look I really don't care I'm authentic yeah but the fakest I don't know why people still do this I mean they're all it's all fake right but the fakest to me is the pictures of themselves crying or videos or like really vulnerable like what made you stop to pick up your phone and record yourself and then continue this very vulnerable you know thing like crying I don't know if I could do that I couldn't yeah I don't know if I started crying right now and when you pulled out your phone I would stop it wouldn't be able to I'd be like what do you do I also think it's a weird time to do it like or if I pull it out myself like how weird I remember that so the last like vulnerable feel like I'm going to cry feeling I had was when my dog died when Max when when Mozi died oh better grab my phone and I actually avoided social for like two days because of that that's what I do right because like my first instinct is not like oh here's an opportunity to show the world that I'm sad you know I'm saying too I reflect on the memories I still have I too am sad you know if anything I could find in my friends you guys knew the day of and stuff like that like so you know console with them and so that but how weird is that to think that getting on your social platform to console to your audience like that's just I don't know it's weird I don't know weird thought though I had I was just thinking about it with the photos because there's this like shaming people for putting up you know these perfect pictures of them and it's like but wait that's no different than what you do in your house with photos and oh yeah that's a valid point yeah it's like you're not you're really not just good to say a literal picture of yourself yeah look everything we do today is not any different than stuff that we did right years ago amplified it just amplified that's all like what's the story of is it narcissists is that his name narcissists where he looked into the reflecting into the pooled water or something yeah like because he's looking at his reflection so much he just falls into it like drown these are all stories that and you know I guess lessons that still apply today it's just times a bazillion yeah so another off topic not fitness related thing but I think Justin said this off air we're all having a conversation and then I've actually just recently seen a bunch of articles sent and then I saw I think Jerry or somebody sent over something this morning on the piling up of the car the electric cars in China oh yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah I thought I brought that up yeah if I understand this correctly so so China was trying to show how competitive they were at Tesla right because didn't they do something originally Tesla then they had a big falling out and then Tesla pulled themselves out and then China I think they're just propping up they're propping up their companies by yeah and then they have they have another company like Neo and some other companies that are like competitive electric car competitors over there and they were trying to show how competitive they are they were how many were being sold and so they're just skewing their numbers by just buying them all and then put them in these car lots and there's thousands of these cars just sitting there unused and just rotting away now yeah that's the pure waste like just just to try and compete hey do you know that that's like the housing market thing they did exactly okay so this is so funny now part of why I bring this up is because they're in the last decade there's been like especially the the you know pro socialist people that prop China up is like look at China's economic powerhouse yeah and the like part of that you know success you guys think is fake success and there's an example right there the ghost towns is another example of that so this whole this this country that we've been propping up is like so economically successful in the last decade or so you have to ask yourself it's a facade this is the stuff that we see and it is like so obvious like how many other things is propped up just to put on a facade you know do you guys know that there's cases where with our military we do that where we buy like certain cold war era tanks or fighter you know like like helicopters whatever and we don't stop making them because of the work that they provide in the local towns and the lobbies so they just build them and then just park them park them sometimes they cement them right sometimes they film us all this can be going to feed like kids and like you know no we're just gonna cement tanks yeah we need more government cool lower lower testosterone levels all like that definitely anyway we have a shout out looks like someone wrote there who put that higher human oh higher human yes so that's Brandon he used to be Brandon PFS but he's a really oh he changed his handle awesome trainer that so we actually had him on our YouTube channel for a minute to do some golf content for you guys and he he does stuff for MMA and I know he trains one of the sugar yeah sugar Shane one of the one of the famous fighters oh real quick speaking of performance you've been giving your son the multivitamin on a daily basis yeah the higher one yep have you so when did you start and have you noticed anything oh man I think Katrina got when did they first send over stuff for us to try almost we've probably year and a half ago so consistently yeah yeah you know I actually tried it the other day for the first time like man my son likes he's this must be pretty good is they're not Flintstones they don't taste no they're not sugar no they're not sugary like that but he likes them yeah I mean and I think that maybe because we've been really good with that stuff that he but he loves his like he's so quick to take his vitamins like we've never had a hard time with him taking them and it's got it's got enough flavor to it that it he likes it but it it definitely does not have that like remember Flintstones because that is just like Flintstones you wanted to eat it you know like like a like a tic-tac or another small candy like that those gummy bear versions they have now like yeah it's literal candy and they sprinkling like some nutrients a little bit in there I don't know yeah no so we've been consistent with it we've been consistently given it to him for I don't know how long Katrina started it as soon as we got as soon as they sent over the stuff and I think it was you who gave the green light on it as far as like it being a good multi-vitamin for children he's been on it forever awesome yep look studies show if you start your day with fiber and protein your blood sugar levels are more stable throughout the day you tend to eat less you feel better and of course high protein builds muscle well there's a company called creatures of habit that makes a high protein oatmeal real easy just add water or milk or almond milk and you've got 30 grams of plant protein digestive enzymes vitamin D probiotics and some fiber and oatmeal to eat it's phenomenal tastes good it's inexpensive go check it out go to creaturesofhabit.com spelled with a K so creatures of habit spelled with a K dot com forward slash mine pump use the code mp25 and get 25% off all right back to the show first question is from ibrahim 201 from watching youtube mine pump clips and squat university I realized a wider stance with toes pointed outwards substantially adds depth to my squat how can I tell if I'm masking ankle or hip mobility issues or if it's just my anatomy it's more likely that that the reason why you can go deeper with a wide stance toes pointed out is because of ankle mobility it's it's that's more common with something like that so turning the feet out reduces the amount of elbow excuse me ankle mobility you need and turning the knees out right getting a wider stance now how would you know if it's your anatomy or not it's first off it's not that common where somebody has anatomy in their hip joint where they can't especially if it's like really exaggerated right like maybe a slide but the idea that someone's pelvis is going to have you cause you to put your feet this wide out is I think if it feels like your bones are locked in and it doesn't move anymore then that might be more of a joint anatomy issue but you know I know that people have been making this argument and showing different hip anatomy and I think it's a small percentage of people who have trouble squatting deep actually I don't think I'm pretty sure that that's the case and what's the problem with that information is I think it's putting a lot of people who could work on mobility it's getting them to not work on mobility because now they're saying it's my anatomy that's why I don't like that yeah I mean another very easy way to test this is you know elevate your elevate get like two 45 pound plates put your heels on it and then see if you could like sit your ass back on your calves and if you can easily do that just by lifting the heels your ankle way up it's your ankle that's a great way like put it get a more narrow stance elevate your heels now can you squat down straight forward toe position and see if you can still get depth that's how I used to destroy that argument when someone was like oh I have to because you know my morphology and you know try and I'm like okay then I get two plates I'd make them do a narrow stance with their feet totally straight and sit your butt on your calves and they'd sit all the way down no problem like yeah it's not your hips yes it's not your hips you know what's interesting about this is that squatting is a for most of human history is a resting position yeah it's a resting position in other words it's so we're supposed to be able to do it's so easily that you should be able to sit in it and rest comfortably yeah like just chill like I could just you know sit here and chill forever but because we sit in chairs we never do that obviously we lose that ability but that just goes to show you like we have the capability we still have the strength and mobility to do so so the goal should be work towards that by the way don't force yourself yeah you should be able to do it with good you know mobility strength and you know relative comfort in the sense that you're not like struggling so don't force yourself just because we said you got to go low but work towards it so and I there's nothing wrong so this is while I was working on my ankle and hip mobility my squat stand I had squat shoes and a little bit more of an open stance than I have today but meanwhile I was consistently addressing that and to the point now where I can barefoot narrow stance straightforward toes and so there's it's not like if you're squatting with your stance a little out that all of a sudden it's bad and you should stop doing that or stop squatting it's like no keep squatting like that but keep working on the ankle mobility keep trying to address that and you can make progress there and then you'll know when you have because you're going to be able to squat with your feet probably straightforward yeah I think it's really just addressing what the limitations are and and realizing if there is a way for you to squat within a different stance and if you can work towards that direction you know you're not limited by morphology you realize it's an ankle mobility issue there should be work done in that direction it'll help benefit your overall movement patterns and and you know build a more resilient functional body next question is from mc fiercen how does a supinated pronated and neutral grip change or effect and exercise wow okay that depends on the really right yeah when you're talking about the biceps the the way that you're you if you supinate so if you turn your palm up that's supinate or neutral where it's facing in or down where your palms facing down that's pronate that all changes bicep activation in fact if you bend your arm and just turn your wrist you'll notice your bicep moving because it's involved in that function so when it comes to pulling movements like back exercises and definitely curling movements the the pronating or the supinating or neutral just changes activation of the bicep so you could use more bicep more brachialis more brachioradialis these are all muscles that flex the elbow when it comes to pressing movements the grip whether your hand's supinated or pronated doesn't matter except for that it influences where your elbow goes so if I'm bench pressing and I supinate my hands well it's gonna force my elbows to come in more I can't it's almost impossible for me to bench press with my elbows out and my hands supinated on a straight bar so that now starts to influence my elbows and then elbow position influences whether or not I use more shoulder more chest pack yeah yeah all that stuff so that's that's kind of you know I would say how it breaks down everything's like how does it influence the muscles that turn the wrist which is really just the biceps or how does it where does it put your elbow I think the most important one to to break down is to me is the the bicep and the tricep and that pronating supinating very much so influences your bicep exercises it doesn't really influence your tricep exercises so you see these knucklehead dudes that will do like reverse grip skull crushers or reverse grip push downs or the rope the triangle the straight and like all these different things that are changing the wrist position for triceps and your triceps are being activated the same the exercise feels different because of how you have to grip and one's more awkward than the other so just because something feels a little different doesn't mean that it's it's targeting you're hitting that muscle different but in regards to Sal's point the you know bicep exercises are different the back ones seem to be different too but it's not because the because the pronating the supinating the wrist but because of the position of the elbows and the elbows where they are at dictate like how we're targeting and hitting the back have you guys ever done supinated grip bench press uh-huh yeah reverse grip reverse grip yeah but that's it's a front delt upper chest exercise totally different yeah pattern there there's I mean one of the one of the like best bench pressers was Anthony Clark is that who he is yeah he passed the way he was that name Jesus Christ he was uh he was guys he's an almanac dude bench press 700 pounds yeah I remember he was I remember that was a big deal when that happened because that he you know he was bench pressing with a reverse grip and there was controversy around it like that he was doing that by the way I'll tell you the reason why we don't have reverse grip it's an exercise so it's got value we don't put them in the programs because the risk of an extra of reverse grip it's a lot more risky I mean you'll lose if you lose the bar it's on your face yeah and I've I've done that before because you try to like unrack and like it's awkward yeah yeah you want to spot her when you do that well and and not to mention again by you pronating or supinating your wrist in there so because we do have close grip bench press in our exercises and that has that you're not getting that much more of a different exercise or value by doing it no it just changes the elbow yeah 100% but you can I mean you can still do a close grip yeah you can with your wrist yeah you know in a in a proning neutral yeah or neutral position and so there's safer ways to get the same kind of exercise or the same value from that exercise there's a reason why we don't don't mess overhead presses too you know if you get if you do an overhead press there's some handles you can use that are neutral yeah and you'll just notice it just brings the elbows in closer to your side so there's I guess to put it plainly there's more there's too much emphasis being placed on supination and pronation on most exercises there's very few exercises where it really makes a big difference all the others oftentimes they're just trying to make a common exercise look different by changing you know the grip position but for most exercises doesn't make a difference and I love that you've you're wrapping this up on that because I mean this goes back to why we highlight like the big you know five movements and like hammering that home to everybody it's like you could literally go the rest of your life and only do those big five and nothing else and build the most incredible physique and yet there's all kinds of you know controversy and TikTok videos and Instagram of all these custom cool exercises where you are doing weird angles and and pronating and supinating your wrists in ways to target a certain area and it's just like for 99.9% of the population like it's so irrelevant we're just creatures that respond to novelty yeah and we're always looking for novel and we want to think that it is like oh that was the missing thing that's why my delts weren't building or oh that's why my chest isn't bigger it's like I wasn't doing a reverse supinated grip pinch press like it's like you know what you want to know it's funny this just reminds me kind of connected I remember years ago bodybuilder buddy of mine told me man you feel your biceps more when you bend your wrists back and you do curls remember people saying that oh yeah yeah yeah so instead of holding the bar with a straight wrist bend them back with like this broken wrist and you feel it more in your biceps and I remember I did it I was like I feel more of a squeeze like what's going on now thankfully as a kid I was very analytical so I thought about it like what's it doing what's happening the muscle and then I realized something all I'm doing with when I move my wrist back with the barbell is here it's easier to support because I'm opposing gravity differently here I'm now the weight is a little heavier because it's down lower yeah it's just down lower and the leverage has changed so that's why I feel it more in my biceps I remember thinking like oh no well also it's also it's also resting on the joint versus you having to actually activate your forearm to neutralize it and say you get less such a bad version yeah it's not a healthy and it's not going to make the difference of your biceps size you know what I'm saying like that's just a classic example of like things that don't matter next question is from Macy Nelson 7890 I am someone who isn't able to connect to their glute muscles very well when I squat so would it be better to go lighter on the movement and work on mind to muscle connection or just continue to go heavy will I still see gains if I drop the weight it depends if you want to just lift heavy just go heavy by the way it a lot depends to on how bad your connection is but if you just want to squat more weight I mean you can just focus on going heavier so long as your form is pretty good if you want to develop your glutes more then you're better off doing the mind to muscle connection now there's what's interesting about this argument or about this question is there's an argument that's made that says if you have trouble connecting to a muscle add enough weight and that muscle is going to activate that there was there was that argument used to exist in the fitness space and I could see I could see there's some truth in that but when it comes to developing aesthetics okay fine I'm activating my glutes more because I added so much weight but I'm still going to develop my quads faster and I'm still going to have this imbalanced look so if it's aesthetics then I would go with mind to muscle connection if it's just weight then I would you know like when I lift weight then I would go weight unless the connection's so bad they're about biomechanics suck in which case you're better off connecting that'll make you stronger well here's here's a classic I mean there's always exceptions to the rule right I just got then saying about the big five and how important the big five are you can just do those the rest of your life build this great physique okay and then I get a client like this that comes across me here's an example of where I might drop the squat and put a bunch of emphasis on the hip thrust yeah you know and we made that argument the other day about the whole thing that came out with Brett Contreras that okay we know that squatting is officially better you know even though we knew that before but where it's official now because it's a study of course it proves it that squatting is better for building your glutes but if you have a hard time feeling in your butt and connecting to it and seeing the results of your butt growing from that you're a client that I would put a lot of emphasis on the hip thrust and we would maybe rarely squat we would squat just to go back and measure like are we getting better connection are you starting to feel that because we've trained the hip thrust now and I've got you really strong on the hip thrust and you're starting to work on that mind-muscle connection to the glutes now can I take it over to the squat and so I would use the squat as like a test now I'd be like okay we're gonna do a lot of hip thrusts we're gonna do a lot of things like lunges and step ups and Bulgarian split squats and other other movements and then I'm gonna revisit the squat to test like hey are you starting to feel it more in your glutes if not let's keep keep loading and pushing that hip thrust until I get to that place to where we can use both movements great advice next question is from 7mr46 in a recent episode you guys mentioned avoiding processed foods as in anything in a wrapper or package does this mean that while eating a whole food diet we would need to avoid cheese God forbid right Justin? hell no blast crazy it's heavily processed food that's a general statement like anything that's packaged I mean technically everything's processed that goes through a processing plant your meat comes in a package too what we're referring to are foods with lots of different ingredients with these really long shelf life so cheese how many ingredients and cheese one meat one you know you could buy certain things that have like two or three ingredients but it's things that are engineered and put together with lots of different ingredients where they're designed to become hyper palatable so those are referred to as ultra processed foods is what we're talking about you know where this comes from and this comes from the community that promotes all the everything's a molecule everything's a chemical everything's a chemical everything's a molecule so then it becomes like you know everything is processed even your meat you know is processed and again just trying to confuse the audience and the idea is that your goal should be to eat as close to whole foods and all natural as you possibly can and what does that mean as little processing as possible goes into it and as little ingredients goes into it as you possibly can does that not mean that all of us at one point in the day have some sort of a processed food or things like that yeah I just don't want to make the bulk of my diet around those types of foods if it gets introduced I don't think I don't I'm not trying to fear monger people make them think they're going to die because they have processed foods is that it will better serve you if you build your majority of your nutrition plan around whole natural foods and even whole natural foods have a little bit of processing there's natural limiters in there too for satiety and all kinds of other things and so it's like if you're you're specifically talking about cheese let's talk about like cans of cheese right where they have like all these preservatives very different right easy cheese versus like even American cheese to me it just feels like plastic you know just and that's the thing there's there's a lot more ingredients added to kind of great example you could look at American cheese like craft or whatever look at the ingredients that is heavily processed heavily processed or you could buy a block of cheddar very very just salt in milk yeah I'm glad you said that because cheese if you can have dairy by the way cheese is I mean it's actually a very nutrient dense food it's actually it has been around for thousands of years people have eaten for a long time yeah but they're not all creative I'm so sad glad you said that because I thought of that and I you know you look at the back of the the the craft sliced cheese which is like plastic yeah paragraph long of just listing all these ingredients yeah or like binders what were those little snacks so you get to stick with the cheese and you spread it on the cracker oh yeah that's not cheese it's a handy snack oh yeah yeah I used to get the hell out of those that's not cheese that's not good look if you like mind pump head over to mindpumpfree.com and check out all of our free fitness and health guides you can download any or all of them and they cost nothing you can also find all of us on instagram 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