You're now tuned into me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, million dollars worth of game.  What? Listen, man, we got Harlem's finance up here. But first, I got to tell you some funny stuff. And I think I'm going to laugh at Cam and me about this, too. A week ago, I asked Gil. I said, Cous, did you really think like you was going to the NBA or was you just balling? He said, yeah, dead serious. That was the funniest I heard like in my life. Because I never thought that he would ever throw it. I'm thinking like, he's just playing ball. I'm like, Cous is four, nine and a half. You know what I mean?  And so I said, I said, yo, did Cam and me think this too?  Because I know dudes around the way just be balling. I'm like, did these dudes really think? Because I said, Gil said, yeah, I knew I was. I said, Gil, you played for like, you played for like a D3 college. That was like North Phillip University of. You said he went to college in the strip mall. Yeah, that too. That's what I'm saying. It was like a little small joint that if they back then they didn't have online, but that would have been an online college.  Listen, he won't tell me. Tell me, I got, he would say, I got, I got offers from him. He said, I said, bro, you went to a local college. You didn't get offers from us. You told him important to SATs. Yeah, yeah, I say, T was crazy though. Yeah. Nah, I was crazy. Why did you score on it? It's like a 660.  No, I'm glad you bought SATs up, bro.  That's what that's what I say. You know what I mean? Why you go to college, man? Cut it out, man. Why you ain't go to no school? Like y'all was neighborhood basketball players. I'm gonna tell you, he got left back to chill with me. He's like, he's like, he's like, this is me, man. I stay in that shoes. Because that's how cool he was with me. But I say to Dylan's not lying, the MSATs was no joke. So what offers you got? What offers y'all got? I got offers, Georgetown, Long Beach, USC. The whole thing is though, when we, like my seniors, so my senior year, we went 23 and 0 and lost in the first round. I never went back to school. Like I was that depressed. I went to Albany and started selling weed with my baby. I'd have a baby, my girlfriend at the time. She's a year older than me and she was in Albany. So I just went up there after they started selling weed and then kind of never went to school again. But then I started thinking like, damn, I gotta get ready to go to school. But I was good enough for them to put me in a junior college because I didn't graduate. I didn't take the SATs. I just was like, they'll figure it out. Cause if you good, good, they'll figure it out. So y'all wasn't that good then? That wasn't that good. Yeah, you're looking at it. Look at the f**k out of it. Let me tell you a while, let me tell you I swear to God, I told Mastis, I said, I didn't really know basketball until I stopped playing basketball cause I'm too emotionally invested in it.  This is the f**king dumb, carrying guns. But you may have done all that, but I don't know what the excuse is today, but in the 90s playing basketball, you have to know how to fight and play basketball. You know what I'm saying? It's a different story cause we watching NBA fight and play basketball. So when you stop playing ball, you can sit there and really look at how basketball is supposed to be played. A real basketball player most likely been playing since they was eight or nine years old. So you had that emotionally invested. So to Gil's point, yes. We all thought we was going to that. Yo, hey, did you think you was going to jail? No, I didn't think that. I didn't think that. But you did. I knew I was going to have it, but I didn't think that. But you know, at the end of the day, I just thought that was the funniest s**t I heard cause he took it. You four, he left. I'm a hood legend. You four li*****s you were talking about. I respect your neighborhood basketball game. You got neighborhood. This is like this. You got neighborhood rappers, and you got s**t all rappers. You s**t all in the neighborhood. It's sort of no translating to the, it don't translate regional. You ain't no s**t in the game. You a hater, man. It wasn't like dudes in Jersey, or Baltimore, DC knew about your game. Hold on, bro. We said, we had Rashid Wallace on here. A s**t that I played against in high school, with in high school. Me, every all-star team, played everywhere. When you talk about, he said, no, Gil, was that s**t? You used to smoke Reggie to gather behind our house. Because I was just on that. It don't count. Y'all were smoking Reggie drinking 40s. Like, come on, man, I am. Everybody we bump into, tell you, Will Parks. He's a football player, bro. His dad, who I played against in high school, said, no, Gil was that s**t. He started at the legendary, started at the legendary Benjamin Franklin High School. We sent everybody to the pros first. Bro, bro, bro. We did that. I started at the legendary coach, Kenny Hamilton, Hall of Fame. Right, I started. So why nobody took that SAT for you? That's what I'm saying. He wasn't good. I mean, back then, we wasn't, you know, we wasn't really up on that s**t like that. We just knew it. We had to take it off. Give me the test. How many years did you start? Three. Okay, so first, since the sophomore, you started? What were you talking about? You said three? No, I'm talking about you three. What are you talking about? What were you talking about? No, no, Max. You started? Four. Ooh. Well, I didn't go to Franklin then the friends of freshmen. I got kicked out of another school and then I went to Franklin. Yeah, but I started all four years. Since the freshmen. Can you vouch for that? Me? I only played with them three years, Pa. And you was older than them. You was 22 when I was going to go to L.S.A. Who was? This episode of Million Dollars Worth a Game is brought to you by, of course, New Amsterdam Vodka. Now life ain't going your way. Shot of New Amsterdam Vodka.  Yeah, you know what to do. Shot of New Amsterdam Vodka. You thought that check was coming and it didn't come your way. Shot of New Amsterdam Vodka. Yeah, it's the still five times. Filtered three times for that clean Chris finish. Now you could drink it straight up. What else can you do, Gilly? You could drink it on the rocks. What else can you do? You could drink it with juice. Or you could just make a classic New Amsterdam Yolk. That's up to you. But when you're out and about at your local liquor store, make sure you scoop some of that New Amsterdam Vodka. The official Vodka of Barstool Sports. Huh? The official Vodka of who? Barstool Sports. Shout out to the New Amsterdam Queen to be at home making the cocktails with her girlfriends. They be getting right, feeling good when I get home. Crack some leg, crack leg. Shout out to the New Amsterdam Vodka.  All right. Who was the role? I'm talking about the, had the greatest game that never made it in Harlem. That was, I'm talking about, was a monster like that couldn't went to the league. Alimo. Alimo. Alimo, 100% Alimo. We'll cover a little bit. Alimo? Alimo. 100% Alimo. Where he at? He passed away. Pressed in peace. You might know from the Anwar, Anwar, they don't do no justice. 6'7", 6'8", point guard, best I've seen like, probably from Harlem I would say, period. Pro or not pro.  So they asked us like, who would you take Sham or Alimo? And I was like, Sham was a monster too, but if you got a 6'9", point guard, that does everything. I'm talking about a 2.0 magic Johnson. Like I'll have to say Alimo. You know, I'm one of them. I'm gonna see Sadah from Silly. Yeah, he was a beast. Well, before I messed my ACL up, I was in the ring.  What? I seen Jordan, I'm crazy. Nasty. You seen it? He's nasty. I seen Gil Cattery and you and them two on twos. He's nasty.  I'm saying you... You coming in and fire them. That's my job.  That's my game. You Greek freak brother. Yeah. Oh hey, I don't know nothing about this. I just know that they're not that good. They got a lot of effort. They got a lot of effort and energy. I don't know about that. Now why is it that, why is it that, listen, y'all paying, y'all three, because y'all really like sports Almanac dudes, y'all paying, I'm talking about this powerful out here when it comes to these athletes. I'll be seeing all three of y'all. If any three, any one of y'all say something about athlete and y'all be right with what y'all saying, they get in their feelings. What's going on? Why y'all, y'all opinions are stronger than the sports networks opinions. What is that about? It's because like when they're saying it, it messes you up like corporately. But when we said it, it don't just hit corporate. It hit the hood as well. It hit the streets as well. So it's one thing for somebody to say, you're not good, that you never got to see them. But when Gil said, I said, or killer said, it's like, these are the things that this is going to matter when I go back to the block. You know what I'm saying? So it knocks out the cool factor a little bit. And not only that, the add on the Wood Mace is saying, it's like, yo, with us on the music coming up. So they like, damn, this is what I'm up with. And look, we got to deal with that because entertainers are rappers too though. The album was wack.  Or, well, Cam, you ain't Hove. Gilly, you ain't Wayne. This thing, we got to deal with that too. And we got to eat that. You ain't Ricky Manage.  They told you that at the jail. You would never be Kevin Estown, you know what I'm saying? So it hurts like, I give you a great example. So one of these players I can't remember who said that. They said, yo, I'm from the everywhere. Paul George is a goat. So I did an episode, we like Paul George is the goat, like of goats, of all goats. I'm so upset. I said, sure, do you smoke it?  I like Paul George, but is he the goat? Nah, he not the goat. Making long story short, a month later, fast forward. Macy, Paul George in the casino out in Vegas out here. He ran down. He ran down. Why can't be the goat? Why can't be the goat? What's up with that? I can't be the goat. So like you said. I don't know what the, what did Macy say? Macy? I told him I can't. He called me the goat. He called me the goat killer. He called me the goat killer, right? He called Paul George and said, why can't be the goat? He said, I got a question killer. Paul George said, why can't be the goat killer? I told him, I said, you know what? I say, all right, you the goat, my n***. Yeah.  Two weeks later, I said, I got to take it back. No, he says, he says, he says something about Larry Bird. Poor as I said, I'm taking it away. It wasn't even basketball related while I took his goat away. It was, wow. He said, I said, just for that, I got to take you from not being the goat. No, I'll put you as the goat for two weeks. Now you're not the goat, but he had a podcast. It's funny too. Shout out to Paul George. Yeah. No, hold on. You don't answer questions in a row. I got to put this out there because I've seen little interview, you know, pop up, camp came across my page. This episode of me and I was worth a game is brought to you by Molson Chorus. We celebrate life's biggest moments with champagne. You know, you pop the bottle, win the championship, but everyday achievements deserve to be celebrated too. Whether it's closing out your to-do list, getting somewhere on time, or just making it through another day, that's a reason to celebrate. 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You know I didn't know Cam was Rem Brown. You know, I didn't know he was Rem Brown. Rem, Remington still. Yeah. We got Rem Brown, Rem Brown and Remi Butler, man. No, I try, I drive by don't count, I know. I drive by. You know, I drive by. I drive by, I drive by. I drive by, I drive by. I drive by. I don't count So she did a drive on cam Listen man while I see you calling the doctor the other day. We're caught about that in a minute I don't know 7300 days in jail Happen was it's crazy What yeah, he told me he said so you could put three inches I'm gonna go what happened was so the other day So You know I'm moderated stat we gave opportunity give up get on show. Yeah, she want the interview Joe Smith's wife. Oh, yeah, and um So he's like that like me and mace don't work on that day But she was saying that she wouldn't do the interview unless me and mace was there and mace our obligations And there was a hot topic that week.  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Be safe.  Straight talk at Walmart Well, I come Tove came right in Rolex diamond. Oh, you're done of that. I was gonna bring that rolly here today I should award today. I mean damn whole Pete to the whole.  I mean it probably that was the first time I experienced what we talking about rappers Athletes deal with now when when you dissed by somebody you thought was cool and you like why is this all? Hey, no, I mean, you know I'm saying that's all I really thought about it. All right now. No, this the whole thing With in New York Who was like the first dude was to really put the fly the rap down that fly the rap You know me that talking about the clothes From Harlem get give it up to him because I know y'all skip right over it'll go to Harlem We keep it real like even when you talk about the point guards. I'm not God just best basketball players I was thinking I was doing through the last night. I was like Queens might got the best point guards in New York City when I was thinking about we seen Kenny Smith last night He's like damn. Yeah, Queens might have the best Jackson You know might have the best point guards in New York City So we ain't I ain't on that type of time But for me if I could remember off the top there's a lot of because once you started getting them big-ass rope chains and Everything else if I had to say fresh I'ma go Probably Dougie fresh. I'm talking about rapping. Oh, the rap the rap when you talking about talking that you know Realized like yo, we like around the same age for all of you pride the youngest So we've been like 51 right now You and we all in our 40s right so including you while oh damn 40 So the whole thing is like if you've been listening to rap since you six or seven is hard to say who because you know, um I'm sitting here trying to answer your question because I'm thinking of clothes and Jewelry and everything Daddy came did I came was talk as you know, I'm talking about bringing it up I ain't talking about that for a back, you know, cuz you gotta do that. You tell my g-wrap. You tell my dog You know me. Yeah, but but I used to talk Yeah, he's you told me used to talk to he was the first. Yeah, that's when you actually you can see that That's a great answer. So what I'm talking your generation Talk is that he was talking we start to See it's different Biggie Biggie The rap black and ugly is ever however G down to the socks rings and watch filled with rocks and my jam knocks in your mr.  I did It seemed like it seemed like it went to another level No I'm gonna say this I'm gonna say this about Mace, right Mace was talking on a whole different level like when it you know when get that money right came out them Doesn't store mix tapes. It was a different.   I'm getting money.  I'm a money getter. That was the rap lingo and the structural of it is that the shoot is the worker You know, so it was this like this whole live balls rat And it was like the Catons of it it was crazy and it was like it was just a different time man And it was like the mixtape feel some way to wear about Put you in a rap game No What I'm saying is I'm keeping hunting when you spit I was like, yeah, that was that The mixtapes the mixtapes only basement used to run hard But then when they deal came in and the money Now it's the murder too, but My favorite I still use one of makes rounds from the mixtapes with certain when I move when I say move Let's go or get left yo And it was a production and you know kissing all of them all of them was on it just destroyed this body in it And it was this New York sound that was coming out that was different And it was a sight me to it because everybody was on the mixtape.  I'm in the studio with DMX See, I actually got to see to go lose they mind about DMX I know love to pop but I didn't get to see him on tour and do anything else So for me it's gonna be DMX because I actually got to be a part of C from when he was just in a tenement rapping the book telling 10 20 I have many millions of records. He sold I seen the whole process. What about you, please? Oh man that to me I would I would definitely have to say DMX because and not just East West like When you saw the energy pause that this DMX gave Like just you could just stop one lyric that he would be saying in a whole concert and the whole arena was Like I think a lot of times because you learn the flaws of it You forget how great really work like DMX was one of those like special special talents Yes, you are and when I when I first heard DMX in the studio, I was just like yo this is It's just different like we was in the studio That's how he ended up on my album on like two records and then from me when he did his deal and all of that stuff But I was like, yo, this is crazy. What about was pop was phenomenal too. I can't take none away. Yeah, but DMX I think DMX had more I'm gonna go on the record and say that he had more than pop because DMX was able to give you Just just a different he just touched pause in a different way Then pock did you know, I was more of a two pop dude But you said DMX was the best performer you ever seen in my life. Yeah That's what I mean. DMX was the best performer I ever seen in my life when it came out at deaf and spectrum and He walked on that stage that I'm talking that damn it was about to fall from the Raptors and that man That was one of the greatest performances DMX come on the stage he be backstage growling on the mic The whole crowd before he walked out Was so actually definitely the better rapper and pock was probably the better artist I don't know because I don't know who was the better rapper. I know they both had great songs, I know they both was a Way above average rappers they was they was a top tier, you know, I mean pop gave you a certain type of feeling in one way and DMX gave you a certain type of feeling in another way. You know what I'm saying, but um That's a great debate though. I love both. I'm resting peace to both. 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Wow, that was a good question You talking about everybody in that prom we talking everybody All right, this is um Let me see. Don't be humble They definitely wouldn't like my less Say who you think killer? Who are you? Just give me a top five Who's the but but I need the top five to be one two three four five three on now No, we just name it Let me be honest with you It's just about who you like if you're actually my favorite rapper from Harlem would say mace I'm just being strapping down. You gotta listen. You got kumo deep You got Rob base You got Dougie fresh You got the ASAP news. You got dipset. Who else are you going to name from Harlem? I'm just saying it isn't like brooklyn the queens where you're going to name 75 rappers.  I was definitely absolutely But she's like big out. That's my man. We from the same block. That's my dude He only got to do like He didn't have a long time to do what he could really potentially do. You know what I'm saying? He only had one album So when I'm thinking about the listen, maybe 10 to 12 people, I think big L was better than anybody in Harlem That's a great. No. No. No. The reason I'm gonna say that is because He was so advanced when he died If he he get a deal he was talking about a real joint he was out of there Like think about think about the advancement of the way he was breaking that down his word play You know the thing about the attitude the thing about big yellow is that I feel like yeah, he had me Y'all listen for me before I let me saw I was gonna say big yellow is my man Like I'm telling you like we used to freestyle practice with each other. Yeah, he's my guy, but And listen, I'm not gonna send him for like all the camp shots. That's my just like for me It's like Like big L better after he died My opinion they start always a legend. It's that 30 was nice before he died You gotta realize him and Nas is on the same label at the same time Columbia records so got Nas and big L coming out the same time and you kind of seeing who Elevated more so it wasn't like he wasn't on a major record label or he didn't have an opportunity It was kind of you was Something like that. Yeah, that's why I'm saying like get that extra push And listen, I'm not I'm not dissonant because that's my very lyrically talented I just don't think he had enough time, but I let me say This will tell you big L ain't they favorite rapper because it sounds good to say You know, like a lot of times Dying you just you put 20 on pump 10 Yeah No, this is what I try to explain to people and I'm glad killer said it because It's like L was alive when I was there. So he got to see me He I mean he put he put He did this whole album. He put everybody on that he put on I was like a person and he put on a record So I always had that chip on my shoulder. Like all these left me off the record But I was happy because killer went crazy and did mark and dream. Yeah, he did. But when he did, hey, there's enough I said, yo, you think Definitely feeling the way I'm like, oh this put all these On hand. He ain't put me on there. So I really I held that forever So when I got my shot, I was just like, yeah, I gotta I gotta be better than these Hmm, you know, I want to give a shout out to who? I'm gonna give a shout out to me sister, baby stakes and The top the top rappers, I definitely know the top rapper. Let's go start with number one.  Um This is this is interesting drop that asap rocky. No, no, no, no god damn three I think is is that the city never got to hear No, but asap took it to the world. No, it's oven like It's oven Now, would you say the name? Would you say, um, would you say true? But jay was better than l If he would have got his shot So That was crazy. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on time up You just going Asap took it to the world No, we don't we don't get to that. We're gonna get to that. All right. Go ahead. You tell him Now what record he said being put you on No, he's saying that's why you mad at asap Do you know the ace? What's the ace up lyric? I'm not saying you don't know. I'm actually just singing Just like you sung maysha You know, there's a lot of asap. I got asap on my playlist. I just asked you to do something. That's it Shout out to asap. That's what I'm trying to explain to you like he's I ain't got to keep going He was talking to you he wasn't talking to me Yeah Yeah, okay, we're going we said Call us Just notice the name we share don't do Don't do no pics no share and I ain't so bright like Yeah, so as it I would go me killer. Are you sad? I don't know a trooper j hold on man. Who know trooper j shadow the trooper j I'm just Do we not talking about That had a cool verse. We talking about who is lyrically gifted.  This is his list. Yeah What's the name?  Right. I don't know where he's at, but he was like He was then who's your list? I'm number one. I just said mace my favorite rapper. Oh So you let's just kill it Say that that's Because that's what i say if i do a feeling this i'm saying me first i would i would put juell's third And then i i put big L fourth Like jewel like it's just the big L didn't get enough time man Like you know, i think he a lot of like he went back to back before big L So yeah more time jwell like jwell's is on 200 mixtape. He got bangers like like When i first heard jwell's rap I was like yo because at that time i wasn't speaking to kill it. So i was like, uh It's it got one. Yeah, like that Like jwell's could have really been like he could have been on he could have been whole level Not a real talk. He had it any other than a young age. He like he could have been a leader Everything that's going on outside right now. He could have been all these father uncle whatever you want to call it like that's how much because The chicks like them he could rap he was fly. He had every element that you needed to be that Yeah, he had the real wittiness to be like one of those special rappers right exactly out them You as they are wasn't well To be and i'm be totally honest with you to me jwell's I wouldn't say poor work ethic, but i'm just not sure why jwell's are sitting with 300 songs in his hard drive And won't put it out if you follow jwell's now on his instagram I haven't spoke jwell's in a while, but he'll tell you next month So-and-so is coming out next month. So-and-so is coming out so next month. So it doesn't come out If you think about it, he wanted to get out his deal with me Uh, he's like i'm not putting out no music till i get out the deal with cam and then i'll put my album out And he bound the deal since 2008 He started putting little mix tapes out here and there, but he hasn't put out like a real project So i'm not going to say he doesn't have great work I think i don't know what it is once he got the songs done why they don't come out I speak to his brother all the time most artists do that and they and he's sitting there with 800 songs in the hard drive So I don't know idea, but once he wanted to get out his deal with me I made it happen And I just decided that we still brothers are still cool, but I have nothing to do with as far as your music career That's since 2008 everything but him when they when we was working look We used to have to lock jwell's in the house straight up in there When when he's 15 16 you don't want to go to school. You ain't going outside.  I can't yell at you. I can't scream at you all them's his uh, gangster music Santana's town all the hot Hey ma was when we about to walk out to the club. We had crib in chicago and He'd be like, come on. I'd like did to 16.  You're not coming out until you finish the song. You're not going straight like that Tell you and you're not coming out. We'll bring your whole back. And if you you're finished to 16 We'll let you have him. Yeah, jwell's is definitely out fire and that's how The songs came about so when we start working together I'm not saying the work I think I pulled but for some reason it's not translating into the public hearing it Like I said, you go this page now every month. He's saying something's coming out Something's coming out and the reason I know this because I'm waiting.  So I would put him a bit.  I'm gonna go trooper j trooper j Trooper j I ain't got a old trooper j tape or nothing I need to hear this Trooper j was nasty man. Trooper j was the he was See that's what they don't want to tell us trooper j was the use the barbecue big Yeah, yeah I wasn't better than trooper j Not a fact. I'm gonna take trooper j off that list honestly And he's number six for me. I'm gonna make buggy. No, I'm gonna put gruff at five. Yeah So if trooper j was the one barbecue big in y'all They Trooper j kill kill our deal No, but may city come find him Mason's running from trooper j like a mother No, he was definitely like when I got my shot. He was definitely somebody I would have wanted to bring to the table I couldn't find him Vives but more lyrical but that type of Yeah, he was DMX Bob wet wet. I would kind of wrap right and the reason I I put them six after gruff is because I ride with gruff every day gruff from my block and me gruff and big out from the same block But trooper j's a you see twice a year when you see him like here.  So Mason like he said he probably what we was looking for like that to go Yeah, we got the chance. Let's bring these in but We they wasn't so it was locked up some it was on a run, you know what I'm saying, but it was nice Yeah, but I I would have to put trooper j behind gruff just because I used to just spar freestyle wise with gruff two three times a week jewels hell Kayla me It is what it is Now taking a puff now Now I got to give a shout out to baby states because baby states is the one that call that called mason said man, what? Wild on them, man What happened man? They got they got five year old there go man. Wild on us. That was my like man I thought they what you man And then may say yo, man I ain't getting nobody five thousand dollars. I got I got to come up there And all this come out of that. Yeah all because baby states wanted to put a check in all them checking on on me She put a check in on you was bitching too. I mean You know what's crazy though when I see y'all what I was so good about is that A conversation changed everything one conversation, bro Like y'all real live brothers, man when mays got up there and said man, I used to wear a camclo That was my that was like the it showed it showed a brother missing a brother and a brother just being real When nobody is in between Sometimes people come between stuff and it'd be conversations because because it'll be remixes You know, I tell gill something about cam gill to put his own I'm saying him particularly people put their own swiss twist on stuff based off of how they hate and how they want to Yeah, because what's the name? Oh man, I need you want to tell you they be remixes So y'all getting all these different stories and it's once the conversation had y'all jumping and now look at y'all y'all y'all turning the game up You know what I'm saying? But but we never get a chance to have this in the hood. Luckily y'all ain't go to the beef way It got real crazy And the pissers got you know, I mean, but now look at y'all y'all back going some brotherhood y'all winning y'all raking in the Dough You know first of all we want to say I want to say thank you guys for even because to be honest without you guys Platform we may not even still maybe not even speaking So first of all, I want to just thank you guys because be honest with you We don't even I don't do interviews. I told you I do I do a million dollar worth of game and I'll do drink champs. I don't do any other interviews unless you pay me You know, like because I many times you're going to say the same story. You know, I'll say that's just the way I think But thank you guys for even You know, I didn't know it left from states, but you have to hear mace talk I'm like damn. That's my being so I got to go on I was supposed to come on y'all show anyway, you know, I'm saying so I'm like This is perfect. They worked out the timing was great. So but thank you guys for even give us an opportunity because We got somebody in common. Um Chanel once she's one of my publicists. Yeah.  Is it true? I'm like, what? What are you talking about?  I was like, yeah, he's right I'll say you're right I told them I'm fine said no, that's how they got back together like nothing The beauty in it is that we could show the young that a lot of times don't be that deep man No, yeah, we stronger together. You feel what I'm saying that be the best of beauty and it's showing me because no We stronger together like you gotta understand Ken was just doing what he was doing to get money. Mace was just doing what he was doing to get money Had a conversation and then next to you know Millions of dollars come out of that Yeah Think about that. That was a beautiful day for millions of dollars come out of that now these Brian gumbo And it's like just just understanding like it don't cause nothing to help they bring people together or give them information You know camcord may squad. I said, but get on the phone. That's how you do this This the money. That's how we get and they went and got the bag You only got the bag. Yes. They did one thing about it as well is like cuz I always got offers and None of course to do a mace, but I'm just saying I always got offers to do podcasts and be a part of kind and I'm like I don't really know about that. Like I I'm not sure if I want to do that But I didn't know I like sports, but watching you two Um do what you guys did. I don't I don't really I don't know.  I'm one So like that's dope.     I'm like, um Let me make a couple phone calls.   I started definitely you guys first and then I called a few But more of the story is just saying thank you for being the that you are And making it like me realize like, yo They went some real still right now. So that's what's up. Is it? Listen, man, and the realness in this is that I really we really looking like brothers So anytime you need us for any information anything is our duty to be like, oh, no, no do this No, do that.  We don't never block nobody anybody that we can help in this space Because it's like bro, it's enough money out here for everybody. Right The because we tell I'm not in competition Because my check is already signed. That's guaranteed money. That's going to the bank So Why y'all can't get some money? Right? Why they can't get some money? Why they can't if you got a hot product that people like What's the issue right the the Jews don't do that Yeah, right The Arabs don't do that. Yeah, they put them all down They like no, you need to connect. Hold on. Let me make a phone call for you So it's time for us to be like that. Right You know what I mean by the way, man, make sure y'all get I'm gonna do my own commercial I'm not gonna put nobody out there.  What grabbed that horsepower was like, damn who this I said that's cam stuff He took it. He took like two of them. I don't say no.  What you like? Oh, man.  I'm the best like never before Yeah I'm definitely like the head club for man. I'm not just the president. I'm a client Make sure you go to pink hyphen horsepower.net. You have the best time of your life, baby Your woman will be happy.  Listen, man And I don't know how old your audience is but Roxanne Chantage she because she was out when I was a little She walked up to me. We did rock the bells a couple years ago.  She said can that pink horsepower save my marriage What Do she mess with big horse? He's got to show you that studio Big horse was a little pony till he got somebody else Roxanne if I'm wrong, I'm sorry.  So If you're having trouble at home Pink hyphen horsepower.net save your marriage now. Now some people was mad that you never took no No, I'm natural Listen Now some people was mad at y'all because some fliers came out that y'all was going on tour And all of a sudden this it didn't happen So like what's going on like, you know, I mean like like Alex ag's uh showing g live nation like what's up with this tour like what's going on like like What happened was This is this is kind of a funny story to be honest with you No, the reason why No, the reason is funny because this is no this is my side. No, it was he ain't do nothing wrong It was solely and I got the news on the bus got the news on the bus is a promoter named Antonio from virginia Who was putting this tour together? I don't know if he was saying he wasn't he was on the hook For a lot of the arenas they were doing so I don't know if he was liking the sales Or he wasn't getting the money supposed to get more of the story is he put together And it didn't uh paying out the way it's supposed to go a lot of people be like because they know mace leave So a lot of me like y'all this mace. I knew it wouldn't last this that I'm like now It wasn't this wasn't mace or whatever. So I gotta go back because I'm putting this tour together with this I don't know. I'm not putting towards the guy, but I just know So I gotta go back to mace and tell him this thing This didn't go through. Oh a showing g So this I got I got mace and I got cam around right here right now this showing g president of live nation urban I said, what's up with the tour with them? I will put them on tomorrow All right, so listen, uh What about what about what about roots picnic next year I'm already I was searching around to see you in book. I'm I used to book mace directly with So somebody told me calendar at uga book cam. I've been searching around because I want to do the I want to do the uh the podcast live with this picnic and I want to Potentially put a set together a music set together with both of them. So Now show them you we feel he got a socket to my man's pocket like a rocket.  That's why I'm still your manager now Now I'm listening to you.  All right Do I need to deal with y'all directly because you know out in the street everyone says different people represent y'all Oh, no, I'm putting you on the phone. I'm putting you do text with cam and mace. Nobody else I don't know nothing about no representation Right, right, right. That's all I just want to make sure for them I represent, you know, them too. That's another story All right, but I'm gonna put you directly on it. All right, Sean All right Now look wallowed. I was dope and I'm thank you Yeah, I'm gonna stop me No, no, no, I'm saying is this No, let's play. I make the same phone calls. I'm poster and mace says cam How much money do they I'm not gonna say on tv this man don't be moving I don't I don't know in between the I just talked to me. I just had to talk. Listen. Listen, bro I'm telling you I'll be with six days a week. I don't know what type of money was made in between The time he wasn't speaking But this Conversation what you have with him here, and he'll tell you we could do it. That's not the conversation The conversation is happening It's a separate conversation We had to cover a rolling stone over day. He said if I can't approve the photos Then the cover can't come out. It's like you move a little different. So, okay This boy mace man. I was murdered. He did. He named me pretty. You was low method From 20 some years, I don't want you to think this can't happen, but I just want you to know me Just tell me a number I'm gonna get you a number. Give me a number. I'm gonna go get it. I got you Anything me and cam doing together should be a real moment. So if there's a real moment, it's a real check It's not it's not a regular check You know what I'm saying because I could get a regular check by myself We can get a regular check on by itself So even when we came together to do what we're doing now It was the same way cam had one number in his mind I had a multiple number in my mind like him. This room and we was able to that's what makes your that's what makes Your window. That's why y'all win. That's what makes us strong. No, sir. It's actual fact because when I'm calling around If we talk as strictly like this the sports show when I'm calling around I'm calling y'all I'm calling I call while long out a number. What's a read? What's the outrageous number? You told me the number. I'm not gonna say it on here or whatever So I go back mace. I was like, yo, we dealing with rich climbing, you know Kevin Durance Did I tell you a real number though? It wasn't nowhere close to what we got If I'm the more reason I'm bringing this up is because I'm saying it's this I'm talking to people in the space that's getting this telling us. Yo, this is what's realistic This is what's realistic. This is what's realistic. So when I go back and tell mace Mace was like, well, we got that already and I'm like, yeah, that's true But they telling us they might give them to us like that but To mace's credit. He's absolutely right. He stood tall on a number And he's like, well, we're not going to take this number because the money that they're offering in this space we already have and The reason he's bringing that up to you guys right now is to give you guys This might not happen don't come back without a moment number I know I know They're gonna tell you and like I told you that in the conversation for Be because y'all they had so much episodes so much y'all can't get this. I know y'all could get anything Everything could be God. I know You're something saying it's just about having the right partner to understand y'all impact on culture So the moment number he talking about I understand that more and they give out that moment number with the person I was just talking to because I didn't It's from serious numbers, you know, I mean for for them for that moment and even if it's just that day, right? Is is it's Unbelievable money right there for that. So I know what he's talking about. He posted it that he put the work in to get that She I'm just telling you how to read his disclaim. I know what he's saying. I know what he's saying We understand what he's saying. He was murdered. He did make him pretty No, I'm about to die But now but now this whole thing what's up any music coming out I just see we just seen you spitting and we went crazy on the recipe. This is what I'm trying to explain to y'all We got songs done. I don't know What means what to choose the lord bless them Because you also said to kill you say I don't care what we doing Six o'clock come he got to get that sermon that By killer I'm going I gotta gotta get on the Yeah, so I said I do a summer.  That's beautiful. That's what's up man around the world Yeah, not in the country See I'm one thing about me man. I respect all religions man. I don't care What you which with religion you are what you believe in just believing something man. So that's a fact. That's what I'm at That's what it's about man. But listen man. We gotta uh We got to figure it out man because the people want to see y'all bad They want to see y'all bad. I know this. I know we're gonna get me got figured enough the moment number That's what it is the moment number. I'm already turning to a moment agent Go get that Because I know is that it's all that that's what I be trying to tell people like guilder get get get somebody a call Guild like hold up. Let me put you on the phone while I tell people they be like what Show me the money. I'm gonna show you what the money is all over this joint We keep looking at the regular the regular. Oh, this only way no It's a thousand brands out here.  So, you know, it's like I understand what he's saying though because that's a big moment Yeah, it's just understanding like a lot of artists do this well and some artists don't I think killer was one of the people That also was able to do this very well It's when you can when you can see the future of the business You got to make the number the future number. Yes, you can lock yourself in for one thing And it turns into Multi-millions and you only was locked in for a hundred thousands. Yeah, you played yourself. You played yourself. So that's that's really what he's It's just like publishing. Yeah, when they go to sell body put publishing. Oh, you know cattle and all that You know what it turned into it's gonna turn into five years from now You know, so we're gonna figure that out.  I'm gonna call you but my whole thing is this None of you would have went to play the nba. Let's get there. We gotta I think it would have been a bitch commissioner Fresh air fun to with it with the white people too, but they sent them to the fresh air fun What about when you was locked up you was the uh, what was you the captain? What was the names? When you all went got the cowboy suit on and you in the front There was vision cause that was vision now. She's the That was juvenile, you know, but listen, I'm gonna say this I don't know who was the player that mace called the bump and I was like, no, he's good mace He ain't no game to be calling him a bum. It was some dude that wanted to be in a bum But I'm saying if he an nba, how can these boys call him a bum? It ain't no bums in the nba You know, I was when I was arguing with you buddy. He's like, no, it's a bunch of bums in the nba glow I'm like, no, it's not these these professionals Like I didn't understand that so, you know, because my game is a little throwback So I wasn't I didn't never get tapping to from having the game to being ever the sports analyst that you do's is But I don't understand how y'all all three y'all be calling people bums and a professional athlete Who are playing the league right now? Mianna's brothers What we said is we made us sit down one day on the show they are probably the only two people That you have no footage on to get them to the league everybody You got a scout tape on college film high school film You cannot find any film on yannis's brothers to justify them being in the nba That's why gilding Mickey you ain't handle film You're the 40 year old you're like a 40 listen you're the 40 old gem rat.  That's your whole like Like these boys crazy man, he was a good wrestling champion And he was the captain of the sewing team You didn't sweat it was a big stormy and It did not be in the gym Shooting these shots getting this off with these bums. These these dudes never play no real organized balls He didn't see me do that. He's a shooter. I'm like You see me do that against jail and ramsey That he's a footballer. You see me do that against famous loose Who's famous? Instagram You already seen Listen you you're super good because I've seen you big three MVP back to back But the wallows point you didn't everybody's name is never been a league just now Nobody never had Out of Joe Johnson I will cook the out of joe johnson.  This is a good one.  I stopped hating on you a while ago.  Gil is out here killing. Thank you. And I can't kill like this and I was jealous And I was mad Are you better than Jamal Crawford right now Yes Okay, let me just see this Jamal Crawford is going to get his baskets That's what he do. He cooked everybody. Okay, but guess who else going into nothing He got a I'm like bubba. I'm like bubba chuck I know I'm a lot of liability on my defense, but guess what? I'm such a liability on offense that it don't even matter Axe rowdy rebel got him the guy out of here.   You see me playing lethal shooter that is in the gym every day all day, right? We playing one-on-one. Did he have to take me to the basket and push me out of bounds?  You playing like this. He said I got a win Six four six five two fifty You've seen the Back to back That's the thing about me. I don't quit think ever highlight tapes Oh For every day I love most of the time Camp camp most of the time me in the gym 99% of the time me in the gym.  It's bubs. It's two things. I gotta say. I'm not hating on ghillie I didn't got MVP in the big three twice back. Yeah, I hope he didn't get that No, but hold on. Let me say what I gotta say real quick But everybody gill named I've ever been the NBA and when it's time to go to NBA He always go to Cotino movie. That's the fourth time we've been together And it's go to So they come out to me. Oh, you gotta do is call Jamal Crawford up. I'll be in Atlanta deep frying Do you know how much mileage Jamal Crawford got on the knees? I just Appreciate So you don't think I'll give Jamal Crawford some back He said he better than Jamal Crawford right now Let me just ask you a question Do y'all know what the youngins call me? What is it now, what's the new what's happening? What's the new one? Yeah, we know that nick name sam gill cell you gave yourself all these names When I'm really old, you know what they call me might gild you I'm just I'm just saying I told you I'm not hating on you, but you gotta start with Jamal You don't too far.  Listen right now. He'll mean I was worth a game I bet you Jamal Crawford will not accept this challenge one-on-one I'll call them and see By tonight by tonight. I have an answer for you one-on-one. I'ma come to wherever you at I'ma bring my no no no we gonna get the money out of it We gonna we gonna wait same way. Well, I love setting up.  I was with you for a minute man. What's your mom about six four? Yeah That's why I said, I said Thomas. He is sounds and deep fry. Isaiah Thomas.   I don't know. I just see the highlights. Everybody highlights is going to look good on instagram. I don't know No, that's the difference. I don't do highlights. I show you Baskets in a row with Jamal Crawford. Everybody else. I got your back and I don't know about Drake Johnson So name one else more Isaiah Thomas that's perfect because we both left handed Set it up Zeke. What you want to do? Just crazy. What you want to do? These are still could be in the league. Yeah, that's why I said it. Yeah, it ain't like they washed That's the beauty of it. That's what's gonna make it good. That's the beauty of it because Oh, no, you're not beating this dude Let me ask you a question. Do you not think I'm do you not think I'm not gonna get off If you don't see the part the thing about it It depends on how the rules go if the loser take the ball out Then maybe but if they want to take the person who score take to get the ball back, you may not get the ball I'm done. Yeah Now you Bobby Hurley, you cannot steal the ball from Jamal Crawford, bro.  You like to catch that breath you hold the ball No, no Let me ask you a question. I'm telling you how many games that I've played the other day playing against the pros All these players played mbag league in overseas Hold on. They all play for money, right? Yeah, what was the record when we left out of that? You filmed it Who you work for, okay No, it's all film. No, I asked them. What do you have to say? Hold on For them Who's six eight is sitting on the floor saying I can't believe I lost Who's he played for? He played g league 10 years overseas g league The sister this bobcats he played He played professional ball That ain't my fault. You know, we play it. I'm just saying all I said was a professional athlete I got three I said, thomas jamal And iso joe everything else you got iso joe you got credit joe joseph You gotta give me a joseph in the black six nine, ain't he? This is where he said he's cooking I'm gonna win but they're gonna be like now gilly was cooking that man.  Everybody you name. Don't count bro Name in random people I'm beating 26 year old in races man.  I'm it depends. I can I can know you can't can you No, I can't play basketball for 40 minutes But a race I got here could beat you in the race. Got it. My man. Tito. Let me go Right there I put this out of Tito I'm dollars when it's over. He beat you in the race Get out of Tito. Tito.  No Tito 46 Tito. How did you know how did you for real Tito?   You're gonna give me two You can I'm letting all here to smoke reefer beat me man. I'm still smoke reefer, man You stretch look he stretched the over there sweating. Look Look at the sweat coming out. All he did was stretch. Look at it. They don't talk about it no more No, he did was stress. Let's get to the work. Come on. Let's get to it.  That's uphill too.   We rip it out What? We better do that You don't take any money me That's how I don't feel about ghillie right there


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