Good evening folks, like you haven't heard enough from me yet, but I want to talk to you about 10 year anniversary, Essie Village, right? It's kind of crazy. So when my team and I were sitting around talking about like what I should flap my lips about, we said maybe there's some lessons that we've learned over the last decade of putting on this village here at DEF CON that we can apply to the community, to ourselves, to figure out what it is that we can learn. So every year I always start off asking how many people is first time DEF CON, always shocks me. Literally this year I think it was over 60% of the hands went up. And then I asked how many times, how many people first time Essie Village, both morning, afternoon, the days, and I see an overwhelming amount of hands. So I thought because of that the best way to start this off is kind of to tell you the origin story. Let me make sure this thing is on of Essie Village, right? So I figured let's have a story time, a little bit about before we get to the lessons learned about how all of this started. So here's the path that we took. DEF CON 17, I came to DEF CON 17 and got asked to sit on a judging panel for a social engineering contest that was happening here. It was right after my first book had come out and that contest was a little weird. It did not follow our mantra of leaving people feeling better for having met them. They were calling random college girls and getting their credit card numbers and not muting those numbers while they were being read and I was horrified. I was sitting there going oh no I cannot be a part of this. I get paid to do this by really big companies and this is not a great thing to have on video. And you can see people in the audience writing down these numbers and I'm thinking oh no this is bad. So I had a little conversation with some people at DEF CON and talked about hey maybe we should professionalize this. I gave them some tips and Jeff said good do it. And I'm like no no I was just telling you what you should do. I wasn't saying I wanted to do it. I was just saying here's the things you should do. And he's like great we'll see you next year with your competition. And I'm like but wait. And then I'm like I just got social engineered by Jeff Moss. He's like come on he isn't social engineer. People really what the heck. So I'm like okay now I gotta go home and think about all this. So all my ideas scared the daylights out of everyone I told them to. So I did the natural thing and I had at the time I was new in my company.  I was still working on another job and I said I don't have a lot of money so I called the EFF. And I said hey I got this idea. I want to throw it by you. They signed a couple lawyers to me. We went through it and we went through all the things that I could and could not do. And they were so amazing.  Because they helped me like for months and months and months and months for nothing just to make sure that we can get this competition off the ground and not break any laws. Then I did a whole mess of interviews. So I went on podcasts and magazines to try to promote this. And that I thought was a great idea. But one of the themes of the speech will be my thinking of great ideas generally might not always be great ideas. Because what ended up happening is some big companies that rhyme with like Apple and Microsoft and other ones like Oracle all went and complained that they were going to be hacked live by malicious hackers at DEF CON. So I got a phone call. And if anyone knows the history between me and Dave Kennedy this story will make sense to you. I learned a valuable lesson that day that Dave Kennedy is not the FBI. So I got a call from a guy who says hey this is so and so from the FBI and I'm like nice try Dave. I've already fallen for this prank a number of times and hung up on him. So if you don't know who Dave is Dave runs trusted sec and Derby con and he's made up career lifelong career of pranking me. Like at one point he actually modified the heater in his seat of his car the passenger side so you can boil water on it and then invited me out to dinner. Yeah that I'm telling you that's what stuff he does. This is the kind of pranks he plays on me. Other ones are not made for this village at a PG-13 level so I will not tell you them but you can imagine at that kind of response from him like this would make sense to me. So the guy calls back and I'm like Dave seriously man give it up I'm not going to fall for it and he's like sir please don't hang up on me. You know we really have to have this and I'm like this doesn't sound like Dave and I'm like so you're not Dave Kennedy. He's like no I already told you my name and you should not hang up again. I'm like fun times. So I get invited down to Virginia to present the SECTF idea and fortunately I'm still here so I didn't end up in prison that was great. So we did our very very first SECTF at DEF CON 18 but the things I had to present to people to just make sure that they knew that we weren't these evil malicious hackers that were going to go and wreck the earth was basically this set of rules right so our contest was really designed and you've heard it if you've been in the room at all we designed our contest with the mantra of leave them feeling better for having that you we wanted to show how dangerous social engineering is as a vector especially through vishing and to see if over the years and we did not plan on doing it for 10 but to see if over the years we can show that there would be some improvement or not despite all the people and the wonderful people working and in this competition so we split it into two which was first oscent portion of the of the competition and then second was the call portion of the competition and we figured that would give us a lot of data that we can analyze what's what are we finding on social media and on the internet and what are we finding through live calls so we uh we we launched the competition with one main rule and that is that no one gets victimized not the people in the booth not the people were calling okay so DEF CON 18 kicks off and um that was the title of it the how strong is your schmooze you can see our art has changed over the years a little bit that's a little yeah okay anyhow let's move on that was our room it was 175 square feet uh anyone here there for that first one yeah yeah really whoa holy mackerel there's more hands than i expected holy mackerel wow yeah round of applause to you so i also laud you because you're still here and you're not dead because that was in the river and so many of you sat on the floor see that was i don't know back in the day like maybe DEF CON didn't care so much about what the fire marshal said so we had more humans in that room than we should have ever had like i'm surprised we didn't all combust um it was so hot in that room my little drum booth you could see it back there and we had one speaker that i brought because we couldn't tie into the house speakers because uh everyone hacked the house and the sound didn't work so we had one speaker and uh we hired someone to stand there and type um like a court stenographer to type everything that was said learned my lesson on that one too anyhow um our very very first ever competitor for the sec tf ever wane stand up come on do it wane right here and i said oh you're from australia you can go first that was the way we decided things back then there was absolutely no thing it was like oh yeah let him go and i completely nailed it right completely completely nailed that first call ever 10 years ago there he is still we're still friends and he didn't kill me so we uh went through that year and i gotta say something uh tiny tiny uh hopefully hopefully somewhat humble brag we were the first and only ever competition in def con history to be awarded a black badge on the first year um and that was something that was like we never expected that right so when they came in and said we can't believe what you put together in the room in the pact and how you did it so black badge and that was since then i don't know about every year because it's never guaranteed right so we'll see what happens this year but every year we've we've been a black badge um competition since even the first one yeah so then we uh did def con 19 the schmooz strikes back yeah you know because we're really genius with those names you know um and and because of the success of the first year we were upgraded and the room was huge it was really really big uh compared not not this but i mean compared to the 175 square feet i thought there's no way we can ever fill this room and just like what you guys done this year it was ridiculous there was lines all the way down the hallway it was just unbelievable um the way that it went off but uh again we had a really another very very successful year but then we started to think i wonder if the sec tf is enough maybe we should do more things because you know after the calls were over we would sit around and chat with people about social engineering we always had handcuffs in there we'd show people how to break out of them we'd sit around and pick locks we'd do fun stuff but it wasn't structured so we said maybe we should start struct structuring some things so we did um during def con 20 where we decided to up the game and we did battle of the sexes where we pit men against women so same company right so the goal was with this was we had one target company and we would assign to both a male and a female target and to see who would who would be better uh you could probably guess who won wasn't men just in case in case you were in case you were confused okay so uh yeah battle of the sexes was that this um again that stepped up the competition on 20 something really interesting happened that year so that year the um the the the gen the uh general alexander the director of the nsa was at def con i know that sounds really we're just saying that out loud right like the director right so i got called in the middle of a we were doing a call and i got called and i learned my lesson by the way from previous three years ago now and they said uh the director of the nsa is here he'd like to see you and i'm like i'm in the middle of doing a phone call right now and they're like please come to this room and i'm like okay if this is dave i'm just gonna go anyway because if it's not i think it's just a safe bet to go so we paused the whole room like no kidding can you imagine this any of you sat here today we paused the whole room i go into this little room and there's like secret service everywhere and me being me i like rock right through them up to him and go to shake his hand and this like giant dude tackles me and i'm like yo you invited me here everyone chill right so you know we ended up talking for a few minutes and he says we've been watching what you have been doing and i'm like of course you have of course you have i mean come on we all knew that already right and he says uh is it okay if i come into your room and observe the competition i'm like yeah sure so at that point when he walked in the room actually that didn't happen first we had seven secret service agents come through the room and sweep it and then they said he's allowed in and in the booth was our youngest ever competitor hannah are you here there she is everyone still our friend and he got to observe the call and then he came up front and what's happening here is i feel really honored by this he awarded me a director's coin for that for the for the director of the nsa which i still have on my wall which i guess they're really special i don't know much about that so excuse my ignorance but i guess it was like for them get given out a year so i felt that big honor and he said um son and not in that voice but i'm gonna try anyway son what you're doing is great for our country keep doing it and after that it was like no more newspaper articles about us being scary hackers everything was like the glorious hackers are saving the united states from bad social engineers and i'm like thank you mr alexander general alexander sir don't taste me bro um and something else really amazing happened at that at that speech so we had one guy in the booth and he decided to do this crazy thing he said um his target let's just say it rhymes with um AT&T and he um he went through their page and on their on their security engineers page they put the pictures of all of their employees so he said i'm gonna pick one that looks like me maybe if he looks like me he'll sound like me i know the logic isn't good right it's really not sound there's actually no scientific evidence that that's true but he said let me do the thing so he did and he he picked this guy and he starts pretexting against him and he's calling and his pretext which is utterly ridiculous is hey there's this big hacker convention going on called defcon i think we're a target i want to make sure your machines are secure what os are you on and people were like flag flag flag flag flag and i'm like this can't work this doesn't make sense i don't like what's happening here well finally he gets somebody on the phone and he says uh the guy turns him down hangs up well i guess that dude was friends with the real josh so he texts the real josh and he's like yo josh are you calling us telling us about defcon and he's like no and he's like well someone's calling saying they're at this conference defcon and that we're we're gonna get hacked well five minutes later the door opens up and the real josh comes walking in because he was three doors down at a speech and the real josh comes up to the table and he goes are you calling at and t and i'm like no not me man the guy in the booth because because like him and his buddies were all like huge you know and they come walking in like it's fight time and i'm like yeah no no no not me man this that guy that guy in there like he should probably kick his butt i'm just sitting by this computer watching this his computer too you know you can take it you know but no ended up they weren't mad they had a really this great picture it was like such an awesome story right to have happened at that defcon you really can't make that stuff up so after that year um you know like i said it was just a whole change in the tone for the for the conference and for the for the village because people were now way more accepting of it not viewing us as like some evil entity so let me move on to defcon 21 and uh you know chose like who's the greatest uh deadliest social engineer theme again now what was awesome about this is the year before um i should have said this before but defcon 18 19 we had basically uh like one woman in both years compete so to do the who's the you know battle of the sexes i had to literally like cold call women in the community and talk them into joining the competition and and you know we had a good number we had 10 men and 10 women and that worked out well and then once that happened the next year it was like tons and tons and tons of women and you can just look around the room and see how awesome it is that there's probably more women in this room right now than there are men and that is such a difference from when this village started when it was all male dominated and i think we have so many women winners now it's like i don't even know if why guys even sign up anymore you know so the lesson that i learned from those years is yeah that women they're gonna scare us you know no matter no matter no matter what species we are they're scary man they're scary yeah that's the lessons that we can learn from those few years so um who's the deadliest social engineer well at that point we did something else really interesting the year before we had started our first kids competition so the year before i forgot to mention that defcon 20 we also said let's expand this out to kids and we had uh ages like five to 12 and we made ciphers and puzzles and we handcuffed little kids to chairs which i know in retrospect sounds so horrible but it's defcon right and they had to like get their ways out and they'd be crying like here's a shame loser get out whatever and it was just like it was like really horrible right but they loved it the kids kept coming back and begging for more so this year i said i have this amazing idea now i gotta tell you this story and i realized when i tell you this i'm gonna i'm like really stupid okay i get that but this is what happened i have this crazy idea in my head that we should do the last exercise of the whole kids competition where they have to solve a skittily code now if you don't know what that is it's an ancient roman code where they would take a piece of leather and wrap it around a wooden dowel and they would carve their message on the leather then the leather would go with one messenger the dowel with another they would both go to the front lines and if you didn't have the right dowel on the right leather it didn't work so we took a paper towel roll we put paper around it we wrote a caesar cipher then we shredded the paper and then we put the shred in the bag and the kids had to solve the shred this was after like eight hours of solving other ciphers like we were really abusive it was terrible and then the code said that they had to run through the def con se village room and insert the tube into a box in the back so that was the idea i came up with and i thought how fun would it be if there was a sniper in the room with a nerf gun shooting the kids as they ran through the room so most of my ideas involve whiskey and late nights so i tweet at like one in the morning any military great snipers coming to def con that want to shoot kids DM me okay now i'm retrospect i understand that this is not the smartest of tweets for a person with two children to put out into the world so i you know so i i get a call from one of my buddies who works for a government agency and says hey chris i want to talk to you about your def con idea i'm like oh it's awesome man which i tell you about i got this great plan and he's like no no wait before you tell me can you just open up your twitter account and can you read that tweet out loud and i'm like yeah sure man no problems well i open it up and i go oh dear god in heaven what have i done i'm like i have three dms he's like can i have those names i'm like no click so we hired them uh okay so we bought these nerf cxsd cxsd 60 long shot rifles scopes the whole nine yards my son and i bought mod kits we modded them then we practiced on my daughter um which i think is any good parent should do i had her run through our yard and we took turns shooting her um when they were strong enough to knock her over we thought this was a great plan still not thinking right okay then i take these nerf guns and i take them apart because they come apart in little cases i put all of them into a duffle bag with four pairs of handcuffs two pairs of duct tape and i take it through tsa so the tsa agent says i gotta search your bag i'm like yeah and i figured and he unzips it and he does this and i just say i'm going to vegas and he's like okay he zips it back up hands it to me right i'm like i guess that's an excuse for anything you know i'm glad i'm i'm really happy my answer was i'm going to shoot kids right so so yeah so uh so we did um i'm gonna take i'm taking tons of time on this story but it's just great so that so i gotta tell you that way the kids won so we had all these teams the first kids they they've solved the cipher they come running through the room and bones is over there on a sniper tower and he's and we just hear this kid fall squeal and i'm like oh no i'm like at that moment in time was when i realized this was a horrible idea because i'm hearing little children squeal and pain and i'm like oh no this is such a bad idea and i'm like hey bones like you hired me showed up i'm like oh god what have i done so these kids are running through and the deal was whoever's holding the tube can't get shot right if you're holding the tube you can't get shot and we have teams of two kids so this brother and sister team the brother says to his sister look i'll be your human shield so i will you hold the tube and i'll use my body and you won't get shot to this day it's like oh my god so he comes walking in real slow like this and all you hear and i'm like that's enough he's like he's not down and i'm like and then he yells clip and there's another kid below him loading clips throws a clip up there's a this kid is getting shot like 19 times i'm like no you must stop and the parents on the corner get him and i'm like what have we done this is not leave them feeling better for having met you so the kids finally get to the box they shove the tube in and they turn around yes and he goes right in the forehead i'm like dude they won he's like man down so i take those guns they're dismantled i sold them on ebay i don't want to memory of that that's terrible i'm like no no man we can't ever do that again so that happened at defcon yeah i'm still here right okay and something else cool happened that year yeah we i was given a speech with apollo robbins and wil smith was working on the movie focus and um he came over and wanted to see the speech i was given with apollo and then he got to i got to hang out with him afterwards really cool defcon like right so that was a really cool experience to have an s e village i'm like look at that we just helped somebody like learn a skill for something that we're never gonna do like being a movie okay so defcon 22 this is when i said i got to step the game up right let's see if we can make it more difficult for the people competing so we can't i laughed at this idea came up with the idea of a tag team so you're gonna sign up i'm going to assign you a partner you have no clue who they are somehow across the world or country you're gonna work together and then you're gonna get inside of a booth made for one person both of you at the same time and you have to figure out how to hand off the phone call that was the concept right for it so we had we we did it we did it and i tell you some of the pretext that they came up with it was genius i one one caller said hey uh listen i'm working on training a new recruit uh we're on adobe connect uh that's why the number doesn't look real very legit and i want you to uh you know i want to i'm gonna listen in while he does the call and then i'm gonna grade him after that's done is that okay and people were like so well yeah sure i'd love to help new employees and then the second person would come on and be like flag flag flag flag and i'm like this should not work like why is it i can't make it hard for them but it was it was it was quite amazing so the first lesson was definitely it didn't matter what we did we still won right so that that was like a huge learning lesson from def con uh 22 we also then at that moment started um mission s e impossible uh it's much more advanced now but this just started this is also a really terrible idea we handcuffed random people together and then threw a shim on the floor and they had to figure out how to get out of the handcuffs the ideas are not i know man in retrospect i think about it it's not great this is what it looked like in the booth with two people crazy yeah and this is what the room looked like it was not right so we had that's also the first year def con 22 when we started running speaking track so we had people come in to fill time afterward um giving really great speeches to the crowd right so that was a really really great year moving on to uh def con 23 you could so that's def con 22 the team that's hot that's the team we ran the whole s e village with right pretty pretty small so um i was pretty pretty proud of that moment that we can do all that we did with them okay uh oh def con uh 22 result was this 22 or 23 right um chris silvers was that 22 or 23 for you where's silvers oh yeah but was that 23 or you're 24 okay man i got the pictures messed up maybe because i have a picture of you here and i thought that was maybe this is 24 and i just didn't my slides are screwed up i'm sorry yeah yeah so that was you 24 so chris silvers won def con 24 and still ends up working with us the reason i'm bringing that up is because all these people that are still here and we've abused them terribly and really weird ways and they still stick around and our friends i'm like i know it's great yeah yeah and i feel the same way it's quite quite a quite an honor so def con 24 the room was expanded a little bit we uh we had more space than we ever did before in previous years but again it didn't help we were still over capacity and full and the great part was as we would constantly ask people to tweet to def con give them a bigger room give them a bigger room and you guys would all comply so def con's twitter account would get blown up and then every year they would ask me can you please stop asking the room to do that i'd be like okay and i'd be like hey guys i need you all to take your phones out and tweet to def con we need a bigger room and they'd be like can you please stop i'm like no because you know because you told everyone we were closed this year so take that you know okay and our our def con 25 team expanded a little bit our room got so big we needed to expand our team that really helped right def con 26 just last year whitney whitney took it home um with with a great win if you didn't see that call i believe uh whitney and chris kersh reenacted that call at uh layer eight conference and it could be found on the internet so i strongly suggest looking for those chris kersh um he won the year before and um and him and i reenacted that call he i was the i was the the target and he was the se like he was on the call and then last year him and um whitney reenacted their call and they're both out there really great videos to watch if you want to understand not only some pre texting ideas but like the flow of the calls like we tried to reenact it as closely as possible with even confusion and things like that okay so now that brings us up to uh oh yeah actually that brings us up to def con 27 this year like what the heck happened this year right i don't know yet i didn't know when i was writing this but i could tell you this year was crazy right i mean so the first year we ever ran sectf on thursday um how was that for you guys did you like that yeah it was good yeah yeah good i'm happy with that because i liked it better too um we always have people saying saturday was rough trying to find support numbers that are open so having it thursday and friday means that you're gonna always get a weekday a weekday call so i thought that was pretty cool uh that we can do that so just an overview of what the themes were right so we look over the last decade of sectf themes and we can kind of see what it was uh that we started to to do from the beginning in addition what i like about this is that we can start to see when we actually started choosing industry related themes so you can look at like uh uh def con 23 is when we started seeing the telecommunications and then after that we just kept choosing themes information security gaming transportation and this year let me clarify it is not the atf as in the government agency it is alcohol tobacco and firearm industry so people who manufacture those things that are fortune 500s in this country that was the the theme for for this year we don't call government we don't call banks and we don't call health care and the reason is each one of those end in something very bad right so you're either you're really getting you know you're really getting arrested or crawling government um you're breaking glba law for calling banks or you're messing up on hepa for calling health care none of those things are good for any of us so there's no reason to do it and no reason to get close to that line so we just don't okay so let's talk about the the sec tf winners i wanted to figure out how we can make this applicable to us as a community right and what what did se village do over the last decade for us as a community so um before winning i wanted to figure out and i went through all the first and second place winners so i didn't take every contest and i just went through first and second place winners over the last nine years i don't have this year statistics right so over the last nine years um what what do we see well those that were in security or social engineering before they competed 39 percent of contestants were involved in info sec before they competed in the sec tf and uh 61 percent were not right so we can see the difference there whereas after comp competition what's happened 72 percent decided to get into info sec and uh 28 none now i'm not there's no court i can't you can't do a correlation right without real scientific study so i can't sit here and say that it's definitely because of se village that this has occurred but i think it's a great stepping stone and you can talk to people like rachel and you can talk to people like i mean christ you were in it before um you were doing you were doing this stuff yeah but hannah wasn't right so his daughter uh wasn't in it and then we could talk to people who've taken that leap after doing the competition and saying wow that was actually more fun and easier than i thought it would be i want to try my hand at this and we could see that huge statistical jump 72 percent of people so um that helps me realize that this is a training ground this is a beginning training ground i shouldn't say it's an all-stop training ground right and why because here's some other uh learning lessons that i found in reviewing some of the stats um looking at se village winners previous years so i think they're pretty proud of the fact that they win or competed because most people that have competed put it in their linkedin profile either as part of their resume or as in their honors section you know like saying hey i competed in the sec for i won one of the big things we found is that time spent on reports generally average 60 plus hours that they spend on doing their o-synterm reports and then the page count of winning reports generally over 50 so now i don't we just can't sit here and say again correlation that quantity equals win but what i can tell you from reading these reports for the last decade is that the reports that people spent 60 plus hours on um and the reports that came in with lots of detail and were were uh filled with knowledge are the ones who people always gotten that booth and they did excellent and why you know what's what's the correlation there what knowledge is power right and that is the it is so people get in that booth they know the company so well they're speaking the lingo they're saying that the acronyms they're using the internal words they're naming managers we saw today people are getting asked well who's your manager and some of the contestants are just spitting out names of actual employees that work there because they had known the company so well they might know a better than their own company right they did that much o-synter on them so we we see this direct correlation to people who spend the time and energy actually becomes successful um at at competing in this competition so what else does it tell us well sadly one of the other things that we learned is that companies are still pretty bad at this right we still learn that because um today i got to say i was really happy we had a couple companies that really shut us down i mean shut us down ben i'm not talking if you were in the room i'm not talking about the ones that don't answer their phone because security through obscurity is not really security right so just hiding like an ostrich doesn't mean you're secure but we talked there was a few people that answered the phone today and asked legitimate questions forced a caller into giving them details you know told like really made them feel who are you where do you work who's your manager showing that they were they had some training they had some real critical thought and i think that that's amazing that's wonderful to see um also i think when we look through the years it's not always that 32 percent or whatever it is those that were in the se industry before or in infosec that won many times the people who won don't do this at all i really i think about chris curse right that guy's amazing he was in marketing right and he's still in marketing but he got in there the first time he competed and completely bombed and then he said that's not the way i'm getting remembered and he came back and he worked really hard and he got back in that booth and he owned it right and and he had he doesn't do this for a living and he still doesn't do it for a living and yet honestly to me his call is one of those his group of calls are one of those calls that we can use as as direct training it just it was just phenomenal so it doesn't take a pro to be successful another thing we learned internal pretext work you know what generally doesn't work actually who can guess what generally doesn't work what pretext surveys someone said it every time we hear of surveys especially external surveys they generally don't work generally now i can't say always because there was one case with a guy who is standing in the back named chris solvers who won using a survey but but yeah he yeah he cheated a little actually he didn't cheat there was no cheating he actually found out that they just did a survey and he called and saying yeah your survey data didn't get sent i need to redo it verbally and then did it verb is i like that's epic yeah you really can't yeah you really can't you really can't fault that so in that case survey did win but um generally survey pretext don't succeed and in the sec tf because it's too easy to put off but internal internals do and then there's more right the big rule which which we've had and we said every year leave them feeling better for having met you you know we've only had to disqualify one contestant in all 10 years and for for breaking this rule only one so out of 14 times 10 140 and actually we used to have a couple more back in the day um you know we used to have like 10 each day so we can even say probably more than 100 maybe 150 160 competitors over a decade only one has got disqualified for breaking this rule so that's great that means that 100 and whatever for 39 people 100 and you know 49 people successfully competed and won and never had to make someone feel bad never had to cause fear never had to threaten firing or getting hacked or breached that's a pretty powerful statistic if you ask me which means you can do it in this industry you can actually be a professional and not have to be a malicious jerk you could just play a bad guy on tv you don't have to be one right now how well how is this possible well you know one of the things that came to me as i started to do this competition more and more and i saw more and more people entering the industry and i had people coming to me that were competing and then starting their own businesses and saying how do you do that internally how do you do that for your clients how and i kept asking this question how how how i realized that i had to do something to help those people who were asking so we developed a code of conduct code of ethics i'm sorry not a code of conduct a code of ethics i'm really proud of this code of ethics to be honest because it's gotten adopted by some major organizations and even a european country if you can believe that a european country called me isn't that weird to say that a european country called me i mean obviously the country didn't call me but someone called me from the government and said we're developing a pentest rule book for all pentesters in our country could we use your code of ethics in that rule book i'm like yeah that'd be great right so we put this out on the social dash engineer dot org site make it publicly available for everyone to use internally externally however you want to use it but for me i'm really proud of this because it it keeps that mantra throughout the whole theme of the code of ethics and how you can be a professional social engineer but you don't have to be a bad person you don't have to use fear you don't have to use anger you don't have to use uh extreme emotions to get the job done and yet you could still leave room for education which is our second mantra right but but why why did why did i feel the need to have to go this far to actually create a code of ethics and to me that the simple answer is looking at something like this google trend right look at that left sidebar this is from 2009 when i did my very first sec tf now this has nothing to do with the sec tf i was using the years and then you jump forward to this year right or was it 2018 last year and look at the difference in the interest in social engineering over those years we can see the interest in social engineering has gone up people are searching for it they're talking about it they're discussing it back 2009 social engineering wasn't a very hot topic it wasn't our community but it wasn't in the corporate world in the business community and now what we can see just by watching trends is that it's more searchable people are looking for it more they want to know more about it and i think probably the most common question that we get in our company is how do i get into this industry the second most common question is how do i hack facebook but that is the first most common question is how do i get into this industry so matter of fact this second day of defconn i've been asked that question more than six times a day by different people in this room how do i get into this industry so we had to write a code of ethics because people want to be in this industry and feel that it's necessary to start there but we also have a series of blog posts and podcasts and newsletters that can help you with how to break in how to break into this industry other trends we noticed okay i'm running out of time i don't have much time for questions but i'm gonna rant for a second so the um the other trends that we notice is that uh sadly this in our industry the uh i always need to be a hundred percent motto still exists and it's not great i mean think about that think don't think about yourself as a pentester for a second think about yourself as a client and now someone comes to you and says you're always going to lose you're never going to win give me more money right now i'm not suggesting that we let them win i don't think that's a good idea but i am suggesting that we need to work on improving our methodology and how we train to help them win so it's a legitimate win right and if we can't do that then why are we in this business is it just about our own ego so we can feel good hacking people that's not the right that's not the right motto right uh second um bad mouthing competition to get work you know what i found this statistic that this is a graph that shows how many u.s companies are actually actively doing phishing training 15 percent are actually doing phishing training in the u.s and there is more than enough work for all of us we don't have to beat each other up we can be competitors and we can actually be friendly we can help each other we don't have to be jerks about it but i'll have to walk around def con bad mouth in each other talking bad about who does what and this and that won't walk around the other communities doing that we can actually band together become stronger and and and fix the problem or try to at least i don't know if we'll ever fix it but we could try to right there's more than enough work for that okay i got eight minutes i'm gonna try to push this ramp through because this is this is my big one this is my pet peeve okay and uh a pet peeve is live tweeting live tweeting now i don't mean live tweeting of everything i mean live tweeting your pentests live tweeting the things you're doing for your clients how stinking awful is it again don't think about it in yourself how are you if you're a client you're sitting there and you know you hired me and now you see one of my tweets go man this company is like swiss cheese man this company is a wet paper bag i didn't mention your name but i say that and you know that i'm talking about you how does that make you feel have i left you better for having met me no it doesn't it's terrible so i i asked i asked three or four people that i truly respect in the industry that do that do pentesting red teaming i asked them just plain out i didn't tell them what it was for until they answered me i said can you tell me what you think about this topic of live tweeting pentests and i don't know why i put davis first because he spent his whole life pranking me but dav and this is you know dav made a really good point as customers are looking to them they're trusting them for for trusted special services and live tweeting these things hurt customer relations right he ends it with it's not the right thing to do and that's a valid point chris nickerson i look up to him for years before i actually started my own company you know the things that he does the red team you haven't heard him layers layers i talked to him about this and he said it's a breach of contract to do these things pretty strong pretty strong language right i talked to wane my buddy who did the first sec tf call and the same thing i mean just look look at this look at us it's wrong and really just stupid and selfish man powerful words right and then finally um chris roberts you might know him um he's the guy who's supposed to make the plane slides sideways no just kidding and he talked about how it's not professional it's not professional again clients are looking at us in comfort confidential work of trust and ethical work so when you do these things it really breaks that trust down and that confidence down and it's just not great it's just not great as a as a as a professional okay i'm gonna end the rant with live tweet makes hulk mad okay don't do it okay it does so end the rant done let's talk about takeaway facts as we finish this up and maybe have enough time for a couple questions so the competition was born where at a hacker convention okay so at the biggest hacker convention with the most volatile network on the planet earth that's where the competition was born but with a goal to show how a social engineering was dangerous and it was still a very viable vector but if we can change it can change your life for the better if you allow it and we've seen that happen so many times for people who've competed and wonder people just competed i've had people come in and tell me man they got they've had job offers after uh competing and being in the booth been interviewed and made your articles and that's changed their life for the better if we can actually use the experience to learn and grow which is a big big thing which means coming together as a community working together and not fighting against each other and then we can really leave each other better for having met each other right and still grow in this industry and band together the funny part is the bad guys do it they kind of band together they share secrets on their forms they tell each other how they do things so there's no reason for us not to do the same exact thing and then shameless plug time is that kind of moved all of this sevo's not moved it we're still here we're gonna be here but we decided to start our own conference our social engineering conference to really talk about how social engineering can become a professional profession is that a right sentence professional profession i use the word profession twice in a row okay i'm gonna do it a professional profession and how you can how you can grow in this industry and become a professional social engineer okay those are the lessons i got folks i have a few minutes for questions i can try to answer if you have any thank you yes sir yes you back yes the nice shirt you're welcome i can't redo it i only have three minutes uh so sec tf for this year is over uh you sign up by watching the s social dash engineer dot org site sometime in january as when we will announce 2020s sec tf assuming we are invited back by defcon so if we are we will announce it then yes sir wane wane ronaldson sir no problem debate date of birth no thanks man i wasn't a question i'll give you the 50 bucks later now you and rachel man yeah yes ma'am um i i don't have any local organizations but i know that there's some really good b sides in certain areas and is this a's which tend to do which could be really good you really have to just check about what kind of content they provide not all of them are going to be applicable for you i know a lot of people use um on the social dash engineer dot org site we have a framework for social engineering and i actually know of a few very large companies that use that framework to plan out all of their services for the year that they want to to have so you can look on that and it's just all free information you know we try to put out as much as possible the blogs new letters podcast the framework and it's all free so you can use that as part of your security awareness and i'll give you a card and we can talk more after yeah it'd be great so yes sir so the question was the person that got this qualified what did he or she do uh he called as the president of a company and he uh when she stopped complying because she got nervous he threatened to have her fired um yeah right so now think about this um we don't know her life circumstance so she's sitting at home she hasn't paid her mortgage in two months her car bills late she just got divorced her husband screwed her ex-husband screwed her over and now you just say you're going to get fired how do we know how that affects her right maybe she does something awful to herself maybe she you know we don't want to paint a morbid picture we just don't know how that affects somebody i don't want to ever have that on my conscience that a competition a game created an environment where someone could harm themselves or someone else so that that to me is like automatic dq yeah we just don't i don't mess with that you're done we cut his call we shut the phone down said out you're over yeah just i have no time for that yeah um let's see yes sir tan thank you wow holy mackerel can i have another hour yeah no no i can't i would definitely not leave people feeling better for having met me um okay so you know quickly and i can maybe answer this after um out in the hallway for those who want to ask more questions but i think um the biggest impasse for me was getting the getting corporate america to understand that social engineering is a viable and real vector that you need to you need to have services surrounding and that there's no blinky box you can put into your network that fixes the human so um for me and it's not saying i i i'm not going to say i fixed that because i didn't um i think i think what happened is the fact that we see that google trend the more people talking about se meant the more times that corporate america was hearing it the more times fishing stories were in the news fishing stories in the news the more times that corporate america was thinking about it and that's how i got past that was by just what wane said was using those things using this competition all as a basis to say that's why we need to do this so i think you know wane kind of hit hit it on the head that i've been doing the same thing you know yes oh i i can't say i first of all i'm not going to say yes or no to anything because i'm not going to tell you what the theme is for next year um we'll see maybe maybe do i have i have i have 14 seconds haha the time has stopped we made time stand still questions for 14 seconds i'm just kidding okay i'm over time so guys uh if you want i'll go out in the hallway we can talk a little more if anyone has more questions and um thank you so much for great 10 years


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Personal finance practice problem, use in Excel. Bond price calculation for multiple bonds. Prepare to get financially fit by practicing personal finance. Here we are in our Excel worksheet. If you don't have access to it, that's okay because we'll basically build this from a blank sheet. If you do have access, three tabs down below. Example, practice blank, example, answer key. Let's look at it now. Information on the left, calculation on the right. We're going to be purchasing multiple bonds this time and we're looking to calculate the bond price for the multiple bonds. The second tab, practice tab, pre-formatted worksheet on the right hand side. So you could work through the practice problem with less Excel formatting. The third tab, just the information so we can practice the Excel formatting on the right. If you don't even have this, that's okay because you could just open up a blank sheet, lay down your baseline formatting on the blank sheet. I would typically select the triangle to do so and then right click, format the cells and then I usually go for the currency, bracketed numbers, no dollar sign, no decimals. I'm not gonna hit okay because I already have this. I'm gonna X out up top, then add your data, format the cells as needed. For example, percentages here and here. Make a skinny C column and we're good to go. So we got the bond purchase. We got the number of bonds. This is the new thing. We're purchasing multiple bonds. Now typically, if you purchase multiple bonds, they're gonna be the same in nature, oftentimes broken out into thousand dollar increments as far as the face amount of the bonds. So what we'll do typically is just calculate the bond price for one bond, for example, and then we will just multiply it times 120. That's usually the easiest way to kind of go about multiple bond purchases, seeing them as singular units or units of the same kind and multiplying them out. So the interest rate is 12% on the bond coupon rate, years to maturity, 20, it's a semi-annual bond, therefore pays out every six months, every half years semi-annually. We've got the market rate at the 9%. So let's calculate the bond price for a singular bond and then we'll simply multiply it out by the number of bonds that we purchased. So we'll put the bond price up top. We've done this a few times. So I'll do it a little bit more quickly here. We've got the price. Let's call it bond price, bond price, James bond price. Hold on a second, bond of bond, bond price. Okay, I don't know what else I was thinking there. And then I'm gonna select these two up top.   We're gonna take the present value of the interest payments and the present value of the principal first assuming a singular bond. So we've got the present value of interest, present value of the print of the, let's just present value of the face amount at the end of the bond at maturity. Let's make this a little bit larger and we'll do our present value calculations, negative PV shift nine for the annuity, the series of interest payments. We're gonna be picking up the rate which is going to be the 9%, the market rate, but that's a yearly rate and these are semi-annual bonds. So I'm gonna take that, divide it by two for the semi-annual half-year rate, comma, the number of periods is gonna be 20 years, but these are semi-annual, therefore twice the 20 times two would be 40 and then comma, and then the payment that we're going to be getting is gonna be the 100 and, I'm sorry, the 1000 times the 12%, which is the coupon rate, but that would be a year because it's usually presented as a yearly rate. So we're gonna divide that by two because we're gonna get it on a semi-annual basis. And so there is that, let's say, enter. So there we have that. Then we've got the present value of the face amount, the 1000, we're gonna get at the end for a singular bond, negative present value shift nine. The rate is going to be then the 9%. Again, that's a yearly rate. So we're gonna divide it then by two to get the semi-annual six-month rate, comma, the number of periods is the 20 years, but we want them in semi-annual years. So times two to get to 40, six-month periods, comma, no payment because we're not talking annuity this time. So comma, comma, come merely on to the future value, the 1000, we're gonna get at maturity the face amount being returned to us at that point. And let's end that, there it is.  Little darling. And this is the bond price for one bond. Bond price for one bond. And so let's put an underline there. Let's add some decimals to make it a little bit more specific. Gonna select these three, go to the home tab, number group, let's put some decimals on it, decimalizing those numbers. And so then we've got the number of bonds that we purchased. How many bonds did we buy at this given these conditions? 120 bonds is how many we bought. So font group underline, if we multiply that out then one singular bond price, 1,276.02 times 120, that gives us the 153, 123 total, total price that we have calculated. So you could do this another way and you might see this in say book problems for example, we might say, well, this is the face amount for all bonds, all the bonds that we're purchasing. Let's make this cell A a little bit wider and that would be equal to the $1,000 face amount for one bond times 120 bonds that we are purchasing. So we could say, well then the face amount for all bonds kind of considering it or pretending as if through one bond, 120,000 when in reality we're buying 120 bonds at the 1,000. So if we did that calculation, same calculation here we're gonna say, all right, let's take the bond price, we'll call it method two, method number two and let's make this black and white down here. We'll make it black and white. Let's move it up a bit. I'll move it up right there. So there it is. Okay, so now we're gonna do the same thing. We're just gonna take the present value of the interest, present value of the face amounts. I'm just gonna say equal those numbers but this time I'm gonna be using the 120 instead of the 1,000. So first on the interest payments, negative present value shift nine. We've got the rate, it's gonna be the market rate. We gotta divide that by two because that's a yearly rate and these are semi-annual. We need the six month rate, the half year rate and then comma the number of periods. The number of periods is still gonna be 20 years but we need semi-annual periods or six month period, half year periods. Therefore, we're gonna multiply that times two to get to 40, comma the payment is gonna be now 120 for all the bonds times the coupon rate of 12%. But that would be the yearly payment. We need to be paying out every six months so we're gonna divide that by two. So there we have it and close up the brackets. You don't really need to, it'll close it up for you but I'll close it up there. And then present value of the face amount which is gonna be the rate once again, 9%. That's the yearly rate so we're gonna divide it by two to get to the rate on a per six month period, comma number of periods is gonna be 20 multiplied times two because we got six month periods of 46 month periods or half year periods for 20 years, comma payment. No, no payment because not an annuity this time, double, comma, comma, comma. And now we've got the future value which is gonna be the 120 that's coming back to us this time because it's all 120 bonds at the 100,000 we're gonna receive in the face amount four. So there's that. Let's put the underline underneath where it should be. The underline goes underneath and we're gonna sum this up. Little darling, sum it up. And then that's gonna be the total bond. So you can calculate it thusly as well. Thusly is also a method you can use. So let's go ahead and put some blue borders around this.  If you don't have that blue right there it's in the color wheel, color wheel standard. There's the blue we want. Okay, okay. Home tab font group drop down on the borders. Let's put in all borders around that, around that little doggy. And then we're gonna go down here do the same thing. Now we're set up font border blue, border blue. And then these two we're gonna do that font group border blue. Let's do a spell check on it just to see if I didn't spell anything. It's a small sheet. I should have spell check, perfect. I got it. I got through that without spelling anything wrong. Easy, easy. So there it is.


Passes for Disney world and this time we're actually gonna upgrade our passes. Yep, we're going up a tier We're going to platinum plus. No, we're going to coast to coast. No, we're not going to coast I wish we're going to coast to coast, but we are going to platinum pus So that means we're gonna have water parks and golfing and I think that's about it That's included. I think the exciting thing is the water park. Yes, so some waterplot vlogs are coming and it's gonna be fun Get ready to watch us flop in the water And I figured we would show you a little bit of the process of Upgrading your pass and also because we're Florida residents how we go on a monthly payment program. So let's go do this We came to the welcome center well guest relations at Disney Springs because it is highly suggested if you're gonna buy an annual pass Or renew your annual pass to come here because it's probably the most easiest to get to and if your pass has expired like ours because it expired yesterday Then you don't have to do it at Ticket Center at the main gate of the park Yes, so that's why it's always good to come here and it's really neat and nifty inside here Oh When you're coming to the guest relations here at Disney Springs They have you check in in the front just like you saw and they take your name And then they tell you to come into this nice lounge area have a seat and wait and they'll give us a call whenever they're ready Nothing like free water from the oasis Look at that.  Oh, there you go Has water ever looked so delicious Sad news guys the water from the oasis is actually not cold. No not cold very sad carpetium Well, we're actually going back to an office. It's an office. I Feel like some important things are gonna happen in here Yes So here is the monthly payment program for Florida residents This is the one that we have right now But because we've already had one we don't have to make that initial down payment So then we're just gonna start off paying $63 and 16 cents each For the platinum plus before we were paying 54 29 But they even have a weekday select one for only $15 a month Yeah, but there is a lot of block updates for that most of the holidays a Lot of the holidays. Do they have the Epcot after four pass anymore? Oh, you still have that But it's a good deal, I mean overall this is the pay-in-full price So for a platinum plus Florida resident you have to pay $882 per person to pay it in full Yeah about $126 a month So they do have one more pass that's not on that list there and it's the Epcot after 4 p.m Pass and it's only $200 for like the whole yearly pass I mean if you're a big, you know food and wine person or Epcot person, that's not a bad pass That's fun to have you get to go to Epcot after 4 o'clock and not only pay 200 bucks And these are the things that are included with the pass Like I said before we had the platinum pass So we never had admission to blizzard beach or typhoon lagoon or the golf courses and Wide world of sports, but now that we're upgrading we get all those benefits Including photo pass downloads from memory maker. I think that's one of the coolest things. Oh, yeah, so happy So we were just informed that on our last pass They can tell you exactly how many times you entered the park and we were at disney a hundred times this year Yeah, exactly 100 times we came this past Period 100 times that's crazy, isn't it? So and they say if you've come more than 12 times that makes the pass worth it We definitely got our money's worth. Yep. I definitely think so So total our pass is going to be $1,500 So we just basically made a $1,500 purchase But it would be broken up between 12 monthly payments of 126 dollars. So that's not so bad I mean 126 dollars to go to disney as much as you want I'd pay that any day. I would too. That's like one day Why is there a random mason jar hanging over there? It's so awkward. I don't understand the purpose of it When someone is nursing That's what that's for wow, everything has a meaning Another year of vlogging With water parks with water parks. Yeah, and we got a gopro. I'm so excited Yeah, my Aunt Bern gave us a gopro This is gonna be another great year. I'm ready for another great year. Yes onto universal Oh, and we get our little pass holders for our magic bands Do we get new magic bands too? We have to go online. Oh, yes And that's it. We are back Pass holders again for a brief like what six hours there. I think we warrant pass holders How did that feel? I don't even know You know what? I realized this morning. I was not feeling like myself. Did you wake up like feeling a little sick? You're like, wait a second. I'm not a pass holder today Or I think it was I had to take my parents back to the airport. Oh, yeah Veronica's parents are gone for Next time until next year next year probably. Yeah, but it was great having them here No, I'm so sad. Oh, it's okay. It's okay. Do you want to get some chicken from chicken guy? No, I don't but let's go And since we're in the springs of disney, we're gonna go check out chicken guy the new restaurant because we haven't been there yet and Actually, a lot of people are talking about it. So it's interesting to see, you know, how good they are If there's not a big line if there's a big line, we'll get our chickens elsewhere Wait, what? Well, here we are at the chicken guy Gotta find the chicken man. Yeah, who do we speak to about a couple chickens? You know up in the country where Veronica's from the chicken guy's the guy too when you want to go buy some actual chickens His name's charlie charlie the chicken guy. He'll accuse you of stealing your his hay. Oh, wow Charlie the chicken guy will accuse you of stealing hay Well, here it is I don't see charlie anywhere actually I don't see charlie either And I didn't know this place was a place you actually get to eat. I thought we were getting some chickens I think after charlie's mother passed away and left the cow farmed in him It was just downhill for charlie from there. Well, what about the goats? That was my mom and dad that had the goats. Oh, okay. I had to eat all my mom's flowers The goats ate the flowers. So we we ate them. You've got to be kidding me. I'm not kidding you Okay, I got the grilled chicken with mac and cheese and they got chicken tenders with fries And it came to 25 even mine was a combo. So I got a drink I spilled some and they give you a tracker On your table that's me Okay, our food is here. This is the fried chicken And the french fries which seem to have a seasoning on them. You like them? And you pick out two sides, but we ended up with three They got the Me and my mom. I got buffalo, blue cheese and ranch and these are mine. These are the grilled skewers And some mac and cheese That's cool If we're eating, you know what that means wasn't nothing to ride home about I mean, it was okay, you know, it was okay for the price here. Yeah, I would rather we're getting tuck mac and cheese Oh, of course. That's your favorite. Oh, yeah. So love the life you live We'll see you next time Thank you


SEGA DROUNC A couple years ago, I took a quick look at Super Valus IV for Super Nintendo, and it struck me as weird how the fourth game in a series established on other consoles and computer systems was just randomly ported to the SNES. It's an okay game, but it's not a good representation of the series. It's very limited and bare bones. Meanwhile, Valus III for Sega Genesis, now that is a Valus game that represents the qualities that that series brings to the table. The story features the warrior Yuko, star of previous games, who wields the powerful Valus sword. This evil dude from the Dark World named Glamis wants it, so he can combine it with the powerful Lethis sword, and together the two swords form the super ultimate, fantastic, wonderful, pretty good sword, I guess. And Glamis needs both to obtain the power he needs to save his dying Dark World. Apparently the only way to save his world is to invade the human world, or dream world. No, not that dream world. The game starts out and Yuko has her sword stolen by another warrior named Cham.  I don't know, I just really enjoy the detail of having you start the game in your pajamas. What is this, little Nemo? Anyway, Cham immediately gets captured like an idiot by one of Glamis' minions, but she at least manages to drop the sword down to Yuko, so she can make a spectacular dive to grab it, which transforms her into warrior mode. She flies back up, and then the game starts proper.  You get to switch between Yuko and Cham as playable characters, at any time during the level, just by pressing the A button. Yuko has her powerful Valus Sword, of course, that creates some kind of Sonic Boom projectile, and Cham has a whip that plays straight out of a Castlevania game.  Her attack isn't so great, but her magic spells are the most powerful in the game. Each character also gets three different types of magic, the typical fire, ice, and lightning, and the game allows you to do stuff like freeze enemies to use as platforms. Each character has a charge bar that you can upgrade for more powerful physical attacks, and each also has kind of a slide move that helps dodge enemies and obstacles. To the game's credit, all three characters are reasonably balanced, and the level and enemy design here does a good job providing plenty of opportunities to use all three. I do think they could have taken this aspect a little further, but what's there is perfectly okay. Plus it's not a case of where one character is way more overpowered than the others. The closest comparison is a game like Popful Mail for Sega CD. You even get different dialogue before boss fights depending on which character you're playing as, and that's a really cool touch. However, I should note that you are locked into that character once the battle starts. You can't switch during boss fights. You've got four total lives to get through nine levels here with a handful of continues, but there's no saves or passwords here you gotta beat the game in one playthrough. Sometimes that's a pain, but here it's fine. The game can get pretty dang tough, but it's manageable. Really, it's just a matter of getting used to the controls here. I know the temptation with a game like this is to approach it like Ninja Gaiden or Rocket Knight Adventures or whatever, where it's easy to get carried away with how powerful you are, but you really gotta dial it down and let stuff come to you, otherwise you'll probably have a bad time with this one, especially the later levels. One clunky control mechanic you gotta get used to is the Super Jump, where you press the jump button and up at the same time, and it doesn't always work. It's kind of annoying, but I wouldn't call it a deal breaker. Of course, I have to mention that this game is actually a port. The original game was made for the PC Engine CD-ROM and later the Turbografx CD in the US before heading to the Sega Genesis, and as you might expect, the original game is quite different. For one thing, it has CD quality music, which is pretty friggin' cool. However, the Genesis port still managed to be a reasonably faithful representation of the original. Yeah, there's a couple levels missing, the cutscenes are scaled way back, and obviously the music isn't gonna compare, but all the different settings still look great, the game feels vibrant, and the gameplay is still solid, and plus the music the Genesis did get is still perfectly okay. So yeah, Valus 3 is a good time, and it's significantly better than the Super Nintendo Valus game that came a couple years later. The three playable characters are all fun to use, the presentation is well done with some nice looking pixel art, and I'd call the gameplay above average. It may be a bit slower compared to its peers, but think of it as like a cross between Revenge of Shinobi and Castlevania, just with a Sailor Moon slant, and also kind of a Ninja Gaiden slant, with the way the story is told throughout the game. Unfortunately, this one missed the cut for the Genesis Mini both here in the US and in Japan, so this is one you gotta play any way you can. And I want to thank you for watching, and I hope you have a great rest of your day.


Corning, New York. A city of 17,000 people in the beautiful Finger Lakes country. Flag Day, 1972.  The people of Corning celebrate a special event called Soundings, a festival of music of every kind. From the Corning Philharmonic to rock groups, folk singers, and barbershop quartets. It supports the arts in Corning. Everybody pitches in, and everybody enjoys it. Well, just about everybody. About 5 a.m. Friday, June 23rd, a wall of water about five feet high came down this among river. It was like a tidal wave, and it swept over the dykes and undating a major portion of the city. We had received a report at about 2 o'clock in the morning that the river would flood at around 5 a.m. We sent out a warning to our people. We were not warned about nor did we expect anything like the tidal wave that beset us. The resulting damage is unbelievable. Three days later, the rain stopped. Corning drew a deep breath, countered its dead, and assessed its damage. Among the worst hit was the Corning Glass Center. More than one half of the museum's irreplaceable collection of glass had been under five feet of water. The museum's library, the greatest in the world devoted to glass, was a shambles. The WCLI and WCBA Emergency Flood Network is pleased to present at this time a special statement by Amory Houghton, Jr., Chairman of Corning Glass Works. Mr. Houghton. Thank you, George. Other than mourning with the families who have lost almost 20 people at the latest count, it really is still too early to assess the loss both in human lives and in property. But several things come quite clear. This was a disaster of the first order for our community. Possibly the worst flood in its intensity ever to hit our part of the world. That more people weren't drowned is a miracle, particularly in view of the suddenness with which the flood struck.  And this, of course, is the underlying spirit upon which all hope for this community is based. We're not licked, we're going to bounce back, and for many, we're going to start again. A substantial sum of money, possibly as much as $400,000. And the purpose of this money will be to enlist fan support for the work of a large group of young people in this valley to help those who simply can't help themselves to dig out from the ravages of the flood. This will involve possibly over 300 young people and will continue throughout the entire summer. They're going to clean out the garage and hose off the stuff. And I don't know what else, but I'm certainly grateful for them. These are the people of our community. Those less severely affected have volunteered to man the desks. They are young people, union members and executives from local industry, housewives, businessmen and city employees, but all committed to each other and to rebuilding. Those who have been devastated are here to begin rebuilding their lives, and they will. My name is Leonard Settle. I'm from New York City. People have no water when we came here at all. Nothing to drink, nothing to cook with, or anything like that. Not even to take a shower or a bath, forget about it. They didn't have any clean water here at all when we first came. And we're doing our best to supply them with water, drinking whatever they need. As long as they need us, I think we'll be here. Money to be spent to do construction, reconstruction, whatever will be treated just as if there were no insurance, and it will be appropriated using normal... Corning glass quickly got back to work. Back to work running a $600 million business. But first, back to work rebuilding their city. This is something you mentioned yesterday. People are just plain tired here. And they're everybody who can take a weekend. I think they deserve it. My name is Lindsay Davidson. I normally live in Boston, Massachusetts, and work at the Museum of Fine Arts in the Music Room. People are working down at the Museum rescuing glass. People are working at the college rescuing slides, and we're rescuing all the photographs possible. These photographs are from the collection here and those of all over the world. So they're good for research and putting things together, things that are broken down at the Museum. They were in file cabinets in the Museum, and everybody just quickly put them in boxes and carried them up to the Carter School. And they were sort of moldy, and they tried to take them apart and they just ripped apart. And they had the bright idea of sinking them in the bottom of the pool. And so we fish them out box by box, lay them out and dry them. They'd be absolutely dry before you can pack them, otherwise they'll mold again. And they crinkle, but you try and keep this photograph with the label. If not, just say photographs and the labels. People of command encouraged me by saying that not to worry about it, that there'll be help coming and that they'll build the city better than it's ever been before. And we believe that. We think we can be done. See, I'm patriotic. I've had the flag out every day. We've had a major disaster, and we're taking it like normal American people. Trying to do our best. And what else can you do? The house was just hanging on like one column of rocks in that corner after the flood. But I think the weight of the house kept the house from really moving. We're getting a few cracks in the plaster inside now, but not too bad. So the house is on Jackson.  I think about the future here, because this is where our past is. And we've had a lot of good years around here. That was the only antique piece of furniture we had right there. It was my gradient. It was a little coffee table with marble top. And that was what was left of a tea service. We never kept that polished up. We've been fixing it up for seven years. That's how long we've lived here. And we just had it the way we wanted it, so I intend to do it again.


So the Chi-Ko is the fundamental concept behind it is frequency and you may think like, what is frequency? What does it mean? Some kind of frequency in the air. But like you said, it's basically music. And as we all know, it's universal. There's music that is upbeat and you listen to your favorite song on the radio. What happens? You want to move and dance. You want to sing with it. It gets you energy. It makes you feel good. It makes you feel happy. Or it could be some song that you listen to that when you had a past breakup or something and that makes you cry and makes you kind of down, right? A milestone. Exactly. So music itself has such a powerful effect on our emotions.


I don't want to tell anyone how to think. I hope that if you're watching this program, you're not like taking everything that I say as gospel and I hope that you're thinking critically and I hope that you're questioning and fact-checking everything that I say. But if you are one of the folks who really do feel as if I have been influenced over you and your opinion on politics, then you should definitely hate Joe Manchin. That's the one thing I want you to take away from this podcast. The motherfucker is so smug, so insufferable, and even though him and Kirsten Sinema both kind of ideologically align and they're on the far right of the Democratic Party and they're unilaterally holding up any negotiations with regard to the stimulus, the way that he goes about it makes it that much more insufferable because he doesn't just say, I don't agree with this because I'm conservative. He'll try to concertral and say, well, you know, I don't think that we should means test this new stimulus package because I want less people to get support. I just really look out for the little guy, care that the little guy is getting support and that we're not helping out people who don't need it. Like it's all insufferable. And you can tell that even MSNBC is getting irritated with him. And you saw this subtle jab in an interview that he did on Morning Joe where they juxtapose the Republican governor of West Virginia and him saying he supports Biden's $1.9 trillion stimulus with Joe Manchin, the Democratic senator, saying, don't really support it. Like he he claims to support it. Again, this is why I hate him. He's so disingenuous. But then he has reasons X, Y and Z as to why he can't he can't get on board. Watch what he has to say here and why he is not going to support the $1.9 trillion stimulus, at least as it stands. Economy is going to sputter and we've got to get ourselves out of this mess and it's the way we need to go. West Virginia's Republican Governor Jim Justice voicing his strong support for the administration's COVID relief bill, the state's Democratic senator Joe Manchin believes the stimulus needs to be more targeted. And he joins us now from the Capitol. Senator Manchin, great to have you with us. So you're the man of the hour here. Good. What's it? What's it going to be? Is this going to be closer to two trillion dollars in this package? Or is it going to end up being more targeted? The worst thing we can do is put a price tag on it. We just get what the needs of the people are and basically how we keep the economy going, how we keep people basically ready for this economy to come rolling back and they're prepared to be part of it. So if it's 1.9 trillion, so be it. If it's a little smaller than that and we find the targeted need and that's what we're going to do. But I want it to be bipartisan. So if they think that they're going to basically we're going to throw all caution to the wind and just shove it down people's throat, that's not going to happen. Chuck Schumer said yesterday on the floor, he said this is going to be a bipartisan process. We encourage your bipartisan process. That means Democrats and Republicans will have amendments. We have many, many opportunities to make the necessary changes and make your point. And that's what it's about. The process needs to work. He really cares, you guys.  He wants to make sure that someone who's making 150 to $200,000 per year don't get this stimulus because that could be taking it away from someone who really needs it, except here's the problem with that theory.  Think of it as a temporary tax break. Like he's making this more complicated. If you genuinely cared about the American people, that means testing only slows things down and you concern trolling, pretending to care about the working class and them really needing it like you're not you're not convincing anyone.  So he says, look, the worst thing we can do is put a price tag on it. Then seconds later, he says, I want it to be bipartisan. OK, well, you have to pick one or the other. Because Republicans are putting a price tag on it. They're taking Joe Biden's one point nine trillion dollar proposal and they're cutting it by like 75 percent and they're saying this is what we want. So you want to make sure that the American people get what they need. And if it's going to be one point nine trillion, then so be it. But at the same time, you want the Republicans to get on board. But they're saying they're not going to get on board with it. So the question is, what are you going to do as a Democrat? Are you going to hold everything up for everyone in the country until we get at least one or two Republicans on board? Or are you actually going to do what you say you want to do, which is help the American people? It's just it's so insufferable. He's holding the entire Democratic Party back, even more so than other corporate Democrats.  So all you have to do is is exert a minimal amount of public pressure and he will buckle. We've seen him buckle on, you know, the direct cash payments. And he's also against the minimum wage. He doesn't want it to be fifteen dollars an hour. He wants it to be eleven dollars an hour. I guarantee that if Democrats push him enough and he faces public backlash, he'll buckle on that as well. Because Joe Joe Manchin, he doesn't have like an underlying governing philosophy. Like he's kind of naive in the sense that as long as Republicans and Democrats are holding hands and singing kumbaya, as long as whatever legislation is passed is like bipartisan right down the middle and that Democrats get 50 percent and Republicans get 50 percent. That's that's all that he cares about, because that is the most surest way that the donors who fund both parties are going to be appeased. But he has no spine. He has no backbone. So you can get him to budge. Kirsten Sinema, on the other hand, I don't know because she's a newer member of Congress, but we've been dealing with Joe Manchin Joe Manchin's bullshit for a really long time and he is easy to manipulate.  He was on the view and he was asked his thoughts on bipartisanship and listen to what he says, because his reasoning is very different for bipartisanship and his reasoning as to why this is a necessity is a lot different than what Joe Manchin says. So, Bernie, President Biden said yesterday he's open to compromise on some aspects of the nearly two trillion dollar proposal for COVID relief. And he met with Republicans earlier this week to hear them out. You've been very clear that your priority is moving this as quickly as possible through whether Republicans are on board or not. I have a question. What's the downside of your proposal, if any, let's say we move it right through without without any Republicans involved. Is there a downside to that at all? Or should we just do it? Well, Joy, look, I think we all want bipartisanship. I hope Republicans join us. But the most important issue right now is to understand that working families in this country today are in more economic desperation than they have been since the Great Depression. I don't have to tell you in my own city, Burlington, Vermont, which is doing better than many other locations around the country. Hundreds of people have lined up in their cars for emergency food delivery help. All across the country, families are struggling to prevent eviction in the midst of the pandemic. People can't afford to go out and find a doctor. We have a pandemic today, which is taking some 3,000 lives every single day. We're not getting the vaccines out as quickly as we can. Half of our people are living paycheck to paycheck. Millions are working for starvation wages. In other words, we face more problems today than at any time since the Great Depression. And we got to move for working families and we got to move yesterday. And I intend to do this as quickly as we can. That right there is what Joe Manchin would be saying if he actually cared about getting these checks out. You see, if you if you genuinely cared as much as you say you do, that that interview on Morning Joe was like more than 10 minutes, I think. And the entire time he's trying to emphasize how much he really cares. And he wants to help out the American people and save the economy. If you actually cared, that's what you would be saying. What Bernie Sanders said. He listed the specific reasons why we can't wait. And even though it would be wonderful to have the Republicans on board, they're not going to get on board. So the question is, do we want to actually give the American people relief now? Or do we want to twirl our thumbs waiting for Republicans to find a heart and jump on board? That's that's inconceivable. It's not going to happen. So if you actually care about the American people, as you say you do, Joe Manchin, which he doesn't, there wouldn't be any stipulations. You wouldn't say, well, you know, I'm only willing to support the $1,400 checks, which they should be 2000 if their means tested further. I'm only willing to support the minimum wage. If it's, you know, $11 an hour, I'm only willing to support this $1.9 trillion stimulus package if it has bipartisan support. These are all excuses that amount to nothing more than you concern trolling and ultimately getting in the way of your party delivering relief to the American people. So what's it going to be? I think we all know where Joe Manchin's loyalties lie. He is a Republican. He cares about his donors. He couldn't care less about the people in West Virginia. He's a political opportunist, and he loves that he has so much power right now. Right? He's kind of like always going to be the swing vote so long as the Senate is split 50 50. So he loves that whenever Democrats propose something, it basically has to go through him. Oh, what's that? You want to do this incremental reform? Well, it needs to be even more incremental and it needs to be further means tested. Or I'm not going to get on board without me. You can't pass it like he loves all this. So if he likes this attention, then I think that we should give him exactly what he wants. Give him that attention that he's so desperate for. Pressure him, give him a call.  There needs to be a massive public pressure campaign. And I am confident that Joe Manchin is someone who can budge, who we can get to budge, because again, I don't think he's very bright. Kirsten Sinema, on the other hand, again, I don't know if she is a little bit more stubborn.  Right now, he's soaking in the spotlight, but this isn't going to stand for very long. He's enjoying basically being the most powerful senator in Congress right now. But that isn't going to last very long because the peasants are going to revolt if you give them nothing but crumbs and they're starving. So get it together.