omnipotent, father, mercy, and grace. Rudene, brevida, ba-ba-ba, and multiply it, and increase it, and multiply it, ha-ha, that'll astound. You're mine for my use! One of the things that you'll see more and more today, especially in Pentecostal charismatic circles, is this move of the spirit or what they call the move of the spirit. The question is, is it really a move of the spirit or is it just someone just moving for the sake of either getting attention or to try to kind of move the spirit on their own to engender some sort of emotional reaction? Is what they're doing, what they're saying, what's happening, what you're seeing, is it biblical? The hard part is, when you talk to someone who is involved with this, it's hard to really get a good biblical response. It's hard to get a response that is kind of coherent because oftentimes, and I don't mean to be offensive, but a lot of times you see the people who are proponents of this, they tend to be more emotional than anything else. Having a firm grasp on what a hermeneutic actually is or how to exude a text or anything like that sound doctrine is really kind of out of the way. Typically what you have is people who, when they read the scriptures, they tend to spiritualize them more than anything else and look for a hidden meaning, something that maybe if they read it and they're the domination of understanding, someone else might read the same thing and get something totally different, which is obviously not what God is after, what God is not looking for. And so to try to find someone who is going to give a sort of a biblical or coherent defense of this, it's kind of hard to find.  The problem is his argument is kind of flawed. Firstly, there are those who believe that the manifestation is anti-biblical. Second, there are those who believe that the manifestation should be rejected because it is extra biblical. Let me first address the concern that being slain in the spirit is anti-biblical. There is nothing in Scripture that specifically condemns the manifestation itself. The manifestation cannot be considered anti-biblical as there is nothing in the Scripture that labels it as demonic or of the flesh. In fact, the skeptics will say it's not even found in Scripture. So if that were true, what grounds would they have in the first place of labeling it as anti-biblical? Those who say it is anti-biblical say so without any justification whatsoever. He states that or he says that it's not anti-biblical. When someone says that being slain in the spirit is anti-biblical, there is no passage against it. Well, that's not an argument because you can't find a passage against it. As a matter of fact, that is the argument against it because you can't find an argument for it. Maybe you can't say it's anti-biblical. What you can say is that it's not biblical, meaning there is no biblical mandate for it. There are no biblical examples for it. They give examples of, let's say, sometimes unbelievers falling back with Jesus. But in all the other cases that he gives, he cites examples where a believer didn't fall back, but someone bowed forward. Like with Paul. Paul didn't fall backwards. Paul didn't fall backwards. He knew who he was talking to and he bowed down in reverence. You see that even in his example in First Kings. Well, this is an example where they were standing. This is an example where they just could not be in his presence. So that's why he says they could not stand in his presence. What a sentence that they were not back or falling over. Certainly not like what's happening here. But the question has got to be, when you see someone so-called being slain in the spirit, the question has got to be why? Now as I said in the past, the very first person I belonged to was a Pentecostal church. And so I got to see this up close and personal every Sunday. And I would always ask myself, and even others, when I see people so-called being slain in the spirit and falling out and so forth, my question was always why? Why is this happening? And I recall a moment when we went to another church. And I just wanted just to get closer to God. And I remember being up at the front and the man was going around laying his hand and people were just falling over. And I said, Lord, I just want a real genuine experience with you. I didn't want to just fall out for the sake of falling out. I didn't want to just be slain, just for the sake of being slain. But also it was like I was the odd man out.  And here I am not. And so I said, I'm just going to be legitimate. I'm not going to fake anything. And so he came and put his hands on me and nothing. I just stood there. And I was genuinely searching. And what I found out was when you ask someone, what is the point of this? What's the purpose of this? You don't get a biblical response. Because these ministries, these so-called ministries are looking for signs and wonders that kind of lets you know a little bit about their motives. Oftentimes the people who are putting their hands on people, it's not so much for the benefit of God or for the ministry or for the gospel. It's often time for the benefit of them. What you don't hear a lot of time, I'm not going to say all the time, but what you don't hear here a lot of times is the gospel being preached. You may ask or you may hear them say or ask who wants to receive the Holy Spirit, not who wants to receive salvation, who wants a relationship with Christ, who wants to receive the power of the Holy Spirit. Well, recall when Philip goes down to Samaria, there was a sorcerer named Simon who he may have looked like he wanted a genuine relationship. But when the apostles come, what does he want to do? He wants to buy that power from them. He wants to be able to utilize that same power for it because he wants to go back to his old way. He wants to utilize this Holy Spirit as a means of gain. And so these people who are looking for signs and wonders, what did Jesus say? He said, a wicked and adulterous generation seeks after signs, but no sign will be given to them except for the sign of Jonah, which is obviously Jesus being in the tomb, being buried for three days. That's not good enough for them because they can't do that for themselves with that. When you compare men in the Bible who were true spiritual giants, so to speak, what you don't see is what you see today. What you don't see is somebody putting their hands on them or blowing on them or anything like that and them receiving some sort of encounter and them falling over and frothing at their mouth. You don't see that happen. As a matter of fact, you don't see them doing that to anyone else. You don't see them, certainly what you see here from... What you have now is you have a bunch of people now who are just making a mockery who, since you can't find any biblical mandate for what they're doing, and they can't find it. And I know that there are probably some who probably have bought into this, but there's no one who has spent any legitimate amount of time in this so-called signs and wonders ministry knowing that they haven't actually seen any legitimate signs and wonders who can honestly say that this is a move of God. They know it's a move of themselves. It's about their money, about their stance, about their status, about how people see them. And so I will be able to say this, that their reward is going to come soon. The best part of their ministry is happening now, but the rest of their life, their eternal life, that's the part they're not going to enjoy, because everybody's going to have eternal life. It's just where you're going to have it at. And now you see this woman here, she is... I think she's got a bitty hand beat.  And then you've got this, what is it? Street Ministry 7 or whatever it's called, where I don't know what this guy is doing this holy water drink or him taking his... Jesus. It's the lily water. Ho! Shop on power. Watch him. Take this Bible. Hold on to it. Jesus. Give it to him. Give it to him. Jesus. Jesus. So before I continue to them, if any of them or anyone who's in one of these kind of ministries happens to be watching, you need to stop. I don't know what God is going to do to you, but I can promise you he is going to have his way and it's not going to be pleasant. You are making a marker of him and you have made him to be an offense to people, to be a stumbling block of people who really want to know him. And if this is what they see, this is what they're going to get, you turn people off. You've made the gospel more confusing and since we know he's not the author of confusion, all I can say is you just need to stop. We'll get back to the purpose of this in a second, but someone might even say, well, what's the harm of this? Well, here's the harm. I remember having a friend of ours back at this church. This was a person who was genuinely looking to grow in Christ, who wanted to mature, who she wasn't looking for health and wealth and prosperity. She just wanted a better relationship with Christ. Her problem was she never received the Holy Spirit the way that they thought she should have received the Holy Spirit. They would have these little tearing service when you would go down to the front to the altar and you would tear it from the Holy Spirit. And then you knew the Holy Spirit showed up because you were sort of speaking in tongues. And so she would go down there week after week after week and it just never would come. Well, here's what happened with her. She became so defeated, so distraught because why am I not receiving the Holy Spirit? What's wrong with me? Why am I not speaking in tongues? Why am I not falling out? All these things. But what you saw her, when you saw her outside of church, when you saw her just in her regular day, she was always talking about the gospel. She was always ministering to someone and need some other woman the way she talked to her children.  And so I told her one day, I said, I don't think that you have it wrong. I think they have it wrong because here is what the move of the Spirit looks like. Jesus tells his disciples that they are going to receive the Holy Spirit. And what is the Holy Spirit when he's in you? What is he going to do? He's going to testify. The whole purpose of the Holy Spirit is to grow the body. What is happening here when these people are falling out and shaking and laughing and dancing? Take it. Take it. Hey! That's the new way. When you go to some religious church, they're going to say, come out. That's the Holy Spirit. Stay in. There he goes. What's happening here, I don't know what that's about. There is no way that one God has been magnified. There is no way that anyone is hearing the gospel out of that. But when the Holy Spirit is actually involved, as Jesus said, when the Holy Spirit is involved, he is going to testify of Jesus, not of the Holy Spirit. And so when you see someone talking about the gospel, they're trying to sell an aspect of the gospel that really isn't the gospel, they're not even speaking of the gospel. And so what you end up seeing is some sort of orchestrated almost WWE-like performance where you've got folks just falling out and you've got these folks that are catching them. Well, what would happen if you didn't have the catchers? And then another question that makes you just wonder, how come no one ever catches the Holy Spirit out in public? How come you can't find a specific area where I guess it's safe? Because you don't see one person catching the Holy Spirit and there's no one else who expects it to happen that's around. Now I'm not saying that an encounter with God does not elicit some sort of emotional response. Because some people it does. So I wouldn't deny that, but how we're seeing it played out in many of these churches as though it's some sort of performance, where 18 Paul says not to be drunk with wine, but be filled with the Holy Spirit. He's not saying at some take of that instead of being drunk with wine, be drunk off the Holy Spirit. No, it is not a comparison, it's not a comparison between the Holy Spirit and wine. It's a contrast. That's why we use the word but, the word but or in Greek, it's a point of contrast. It's a show the difference between one and the other. They're not talking about the same thing. And so when we say but, we're going in a different direction. And so he contrasts being drunk with wine versus having or being filled with the Holy Spirit. Well, we know that the fruit of the Spirit is self-control. The Bible talks about us having this control of ourselves. And so it can't be that the Holy Spirit comes to us and we lose control. Doesn't spread the gospel, we just fall out. And the only person who gets glorified is the person who laid hands on us or waved his jacket or breathed on us or whatever. And so without question, the greatest manifestation of the Holy Spirit, when a person really gets empowered with the Holy Spirit, you see it not so much in church. You see it outside of church.  You see it in them ministering the gospel. Remember what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 12. He said, now concerning these spiritual things or your Bible may say spiritual gifts. He says in chapter, in verse 7 that the point of these spiritual gifts are for the edification of the rest of the body. It's for the common good of the rest of the body. It's not for you. The Holy Spirit is not poured out on you for you. And so here's what you ought to see. You ought to see these people who have so-called these so-called gifts of healing and so forth. Why don't you go to the hospital? Now we keep saying this all the time. But you don't see you don't see them so-called in their power as they say they have. There should be no COVID-19, should it? There should be no cancer running amuck. There should be no sickness and disease because you've got this power and all you've got to do is wave your hand or wave your jacket or offer somebody something to drink. But you're not doing it.  Harsh words, but I'm not being harsh enough truth be told. These are people who should be avoided. Now, for those of you who are insisting on being under these ministries, who want to defend them, have at it. You'll get exactly what you deserve because you are helping to make a mockery of the gospel. Remember, they can't do what they're doing if they don't have these full stadiums. They can't do what they're doing without you enabling them. And so if in these ministries God is not being magnified. Souls are not being one to Christ. That's no ministry at all. All you've done is to put money in the coffers of these charlatans. All you've done is partake in these evil deeds. You have looked for these signs and wonders. You've gotten the treat. You've gotten your reward. Your reward was a show and that will be it. And so you're going to miss out on heaven.  There will be as he says weeping and gnashing of teeth. You will join them and you'll have your reward with them. So that is my warning to you if you are looking for a way out I beg I plead with you find a Bible believing church. Find a ministry that you can find a Bible. How about that? Find a Bible read it and see that none of this that's taking place now is happening in the scriptures. You're not going to find a single chapter and verse of the Bible which specifically and completely gives us the foundation for the slain in the spirit manifestation. But the same is true about the doctrine of inerrancy eschatology, salvation dispensationalism, ministry leadership and so forth. My point is that you have to look at the scripture as a whole. So I want you to really hear this now. We are not looking for a single instance in the Bible that completely demonstrates the slain in the spirit phenomenon. Those who demand a single chapter and verse aren't interested in what the Bible teaches as a whole. They're just interested in winning a debate. And so last to the finish off on what he's saying he doesn't think it's a good thing or he didn't see a problem that you can find a biblical example of this. That should be alarming if you don't see anyone else doing what he's doing, what he's advocating. That's proof of enough to not do it. He's saying because we don't see anyone talking about it or against it that means it's okay. Well we don't see anyone talking negatively about pedophilia. That means it's okay. We don't see a lot of things that we know that are wrong being talked about in the Bible because we just innately know that these things are wrong. What we don't see or we need to see is we need to see an example. There's no biblical example of this happening. And since there isn't we ought to follow what we see in Scripture. Amen.


Okay, very good morning. It is Monday the 25th of January. Hope you're doing well. Hope you managed to brave the snow if you're based in the UK. Had a little sprinkling over the weekend but all good. Ready to give you the latest kind of fundamental briefing for the week ahead. Gonna capsulate some of the main things that happened in the press over the weekend that you need to be aware of and look at the fundamental factors that are in focus this week. Turns out the technical levels and trade setups intraday and for the week ahead. I'll let my teammates do that on the Amplify live channel. Again got the live stream going on throughout the entire day. Also got the masterclass, the FMC happening in the evenings that will be covered in real-time then. So remember to check out the link below for Amplify live if you've not done so already. If you're watching this on YouTube really appreciate it if you could like and subscribe to the channel. But look let's get straight into it and talk about what's going on. And a little bit of risk on appetite this morning. Albeit particularly moderate I would say. So stock index futures seen marginally higher than as that having moved up. Generally speaking through the recommencement of trade overnight just saw us technically break above an area of what was resistance that we had back at the end of last week on Friday that managed to hold price. So using that as a bit of a launchpad then to push higher through the early part of the Asia pack session. So then as that training up about 100 points at the moment DAX then following suit and sympathy up about 83 S&P up 16 and a quarter at the moment. As such then gold prices down about six and a half bucks. The 10-year pretty flat uninteresting overnight but down two and then consequently oil prices up about 27 cents and marginally higher training at 52.54 at the moment. As far as the currency markets are concerned I think too interesting to be quite frank slight softness in the dollar down about one tenth as Europe comes in and that means that Euro dollar and cable both slightly higher perhaps a little bit out performance in sterling training up 32 pips and above the 137 handle at the moment. But look let's get straight into it talk about some of the news flow then and what you need to be aware of for the week ahead. Starting off with this this is still arguably one of the main kind of narratives driving financial markets at the moment and that is now that we've had the present elect now being formally put into place. So Joe Biden now in the White House what is then the timings and the size and scope of the coronavirus relief program he wants to push forward. Now over the weekend few developments there to be aware of so officials in his administration tried to try to head off some concerns that have started to emerge amongst a select group of Republican senators about the size and the expense of his proposed 1.9 trillion dollar new program. This of course comes after they had only ratified and signed off that 900 billion just a few weeks ago. The push for coronavirus relief there's kind of two things here to be aware of and one is a little bit more practical the fact that the second impeachment of Donald Trump obviously takes place the trial begins on February 8th. Some Democrats have been quite upfront saying look let's try and get this bipartisan agreement through you've got our backing to try and get the stimulus in before then because there's a timing issue where then it's going to conflict and draw probably unnecessary attention away from what the greater necessity is which is to provide more relief for the people on on Main Street in that respect and then the second thing is that you know impeachment trials they only go as to further fuel the kind of deepening divisions that exist overall which ultimately then might have a knock on domino effect then for the likelihood the passage of certain elements of this this latest relief bill so couple things to look out for there it's still an important factor of course to be monitoring throughout the week no set kind of dates or times to be aware of but it's something that's going to be ongoing throughout the whole week in itself. Moving on then to COVID what's the latest there what's a couple things to update you on the UK's Health Minister Matt Hancock was speaking at the weekend he warned the coronavirus vaccines may be less effective against the new variants of disease such as those found in South Africa and Brazil and that stricter border controls are therefore justified so this is the latest kind of stats over the weekend on Sunday there's 77 cases found now in the UK of that South African variant even though they had stopped transportation coming in from that particular country so it's something to just keep an eye on perhaps in terms of how quickly that number starts ahead north and certainly perhaps catching a bit of attention given the fact that he said quite expressly that the the vaccines may be less effective against the new variant in itself. On the other side then there's a few other things to be aware of France is set to be or set to go into lockdown within days so mainland Europe amid concerns of a new wave of infections driven by the UK variant and citing people basically from where the matter they've said Macron could announce the country's third lockdown coming on Wednesday night so don't find that too surprising to be to be quite honest and hence the reason why it's not really impacting the market right now still at the moment the ongoing nature of lockdown seems to be somewhat bedded into expectations at least for the time being but we're expected confirmation of that midweek coming from France. The other thing then is about the kind of rollout of the vaccines this was something out of the FT at the weekend AstraZeneca has warned EU countries to expect significant shortfalls in terms of the early deliveries of its vaccine. The EU is expecting a hundred million doses of the jab by the first quarter of this year but people with knowledge of the discussions has said that the company is unlikely to meet even half of that figure. This has caused quite a lot of backlash between various different EU nations against AstraZeneca and of course comes in the context of a lot of people starting to scrutinize the relative slow vaccination rollout comparative to what we've seen in some of the other countries and to help give you a bit of context on that this is looking at a kind of list going in order of the number of doses administered per 100 people so you can see in Israel for example it's nearly half of the population at this point in time in terms of per hundred people whereas then scaling it down the UK is now at 10.21 US at 6.82 but you'll note then really in terms of the major European nations it's not until you get down to Spain that that's one of the highest and that's down at 2.51 again comparative to 10.2 in the UK so that's one of the I guess things to keep an eye on in combination with this it's interesting to note that in total the UK and the US have each spent about seven times more up front per capita on vaccine development procurement and production than that of the European bloc and although markets not showing too much sensitivity to this at the moment obviously the quicker they can get the control or at least get the virus under control get these these vaccines administered as quickly as possible that would then consequently lead to the inevitable reopening of the economy at some point in time so at the moment Europe is lagging a little bit which could be something to just monitor going forward as well otherwise sticking with the mainland we're looking at Italy did see a bit of a continued elevation in yields that broke BTPs Italian bombs out of there broke the bounce out of the range they've been training at the end of last week on Friday in fact from Italy we saw 10 year yields right go to 0.75% and spread against German buttons widened about eight basis points which is the widest that spreads being since that November of last year so the latest of the weekend basically is that Conte is resisting pressure to resign he's still trying to club together a formation of a new coalition if he fails to recruit enough senators ahead of a vote which is penciled in for Wednesday or Thursday this week to approve the annual report justice minister then then again this will cause the next step of the process to come to fold and take us one step closer to snap elections as much as most still see that as an unlikely prospect at this point in time so we're still tracking this in the background as well just very briefly on the oil front WCI crew not reacting too much to these headlines but I think it's something to be aware of Iraq plans to cut oil output in January February to make up for its breaching of OPEC plus quota last year this is per the demands that were placed upon them as part of the existing deal from some of the recent OPEC meetings that we've had the aim is to pump 3.6 million brows per day which would in fact as far as Iraq go be the lowest in about five five and a half years in fact and compares to around 3.85 million brows per day that they would have been producing only back in December separately as well worth knowing for Libya members of the Libyan parliamentary force responsible for safeguarding the oil ports ordered a whole to crude exports so guards have ordered stockages at Asaida Hariga and Ruslan of ports the three largest of course in Libya which is something to be aware of they have said the reason rationale for this is they're trying to press home salary demands at the moment so something has to be aware of moving on then let's have a look at the calendar what's on the agenda for the for the week ahead because there there is a quite a few things you need to to make note of as far as today is concerned you do have ECB's Christine Lagarde giving a keynote speech 845 he's also speaking on the panel of 415 now one place where of course she is speaking is here Davos for those who are new to financial markets this time of the year it's always the World Economic Forum where all their major heads of state central bankers influential people across the board they will meet in Davos however this is all happening of course because because of Covid virtually but we do have a number of key speakers so just to run you through Chinese president as you can see here Xi Jinping is going to be speaking today Macron will be speaking on Tuesday giving a keynote speech as will Angela Merkel the German Chancellor you've then got ECB's Christine Lagarde and Bank of England governor Andrew Bailey are both speaking today so quite front-loaded today just to repeat you've got Lagarde Bailey ECB Bank of England you've also got President Xi and then tomorrow Macron and Merkel so how much they normally say at these events well it is a I guess an event which which does draw quite a lot of the eyeballs let's say so it could have the propensity to move markets because it's a decent it has quite a lot of visibility I guess for market participants how often though in the past has it been used to kind of pivot a new strategy or policy kind of hint very rare but nonetheless when all of these kind of major influential people which markets are sensitive to our speaking it's always worth paying note to the actual agenda so I'll share of the Davos schedule in the Amphilive discord room every morning going forward otherwise for this morning you've got the German iPhone figure coming out a bit later and then you've got a couple of ECB speakers in the Chicago Fed National Activity Index later otherwise moving on to Tuesday and you do get the latest jobs data coming out the UK bearing in mind though that unemployment rates expected to remain steady at 5.1% so at the moment not counting things like the extension rollover or furlough what we had in the UK so still it's a little bit misleading to look at it just on its top level figure going forward but then for the rest of that session the US Conference Board of Consumer Confidence number Richmond Fed Manufacturing sat someone Tuesday Wednesday then the main event being and one of the main things for the week is the FMC what can we expect in the FMC well it's the first meeting since a couple of things we've of course seen now the Senate switch in Georgia and that meaning then we've got a blue wave so getting a bit of a temperature check for what does Pau and his colleagues see the impact of that being on their policy going forward if any we've also had quite a response in markets on the back of that in terms of yield movement so any commentary on that and we've also had a lot of back and forth about this idea and notion of tapering albeit after that first kind of came about about two weeks ago it's gone very quiet since they kind of put that to bed that it's probably too early to be talking about that for the time being they're kind of the key things to be looking out for no actual monetary policy change of course expected this time round I saw a good summary comment here from ING who I think really hit the nail on the head and it was that they suspect the Fed will retain a cautiously optimistic tone at the press conference while seeking to downplay the prospects of any meaningful change in Fed policy any time soon as I said I'm going to be covering I'll do a full preview I'll cover the full event live on Wednesday night on Amplify live if you want to join us so beyond that looking to Thursday you've got the German state CPIs and then the US Q4 advanced GDP figure up 130 on that day alongside the weekly jobless change numbers as well which we continue to track at this present point in time given their fairly elevated nature and in Friday it's all about then the GDP figures coming out of mainland Europe you've also got the core PCE numbers coming out of the the US as well the other thing that does definitely ramp up several gears this week is earnings there are 118 I believe corporate earnings coming out the S&P 500 this week alone that includes 13 of the 30 Dow components almost half of the Dow's reporting here are some of the highlights so just to give you a bit of a flavor really Tuesday it starts to heat up a little bit pre-market J&J GE3M the kind of larger market cap names then after the close Microsoft AMD pre-market Wednesday Boeing AT&T after market it's probably the biggest evening you've got Apple Tesla Facebook all coming on Wednesday and for Apple their expectations are for them that the successful iPhone 12 holiday sales are expected to drive their revenues over then a hundred billion dollars for the quarter for the first time in the company's corporate history then Thursday pre-market McDonald's after market lights a visa and then Friday Caterpillar Eli Lilly Chevron Honey Wells just to name a few so yeah things get a lot more busy here as I said I'll do my best to share kind of individual previews in a bit more detail for some of the bigger market cap weighted firms but that is it so otherwise feel free to drop me a comment if you've got any questions at all and then hopefully I'll see you online live in Amplify Live alright have a good week take care


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Think Tech Hawaii, civil engagement lives here. Welcome back to Talk Story with John Waihe. Today we have a most interesting subject. I have been accused over the years of having a delicate hand in the formation of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs back in 1978. And so today was our opportunity to see how well that agency is doing. And what I found is that it is a moment of renewal. That we got a couple of new trustees for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs and I thought it would be really fun to get them on this show and talk a little bit about who they are and what their hopes might be for Native Hawaiians and for our state in general. So please help me welcome Kale Akaka, who is the trustee for Oahu, the Oahu trustee for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, and Brandon Lee is at large, the trustee at large. And both of you had exciting elections. That's putting it mildly, like saying you had a subtle hand is putting it mildly. Well, yeah, we're trying to be subtle. Anyway, it was exciting. It was exciting and it's so good to welcome new people. You've been on the show before. I've been on before. It's because of your many activities with Native Hawaiians. But Kale, this is your first time. So we thought we'd start with you. You now work at Kamehameha Schools. I work at Kamehameha Schools. Soon to be working for Office of Hawaiian Affairs as a trustee. And was this your first election or you ran for office before? I did. I ran, first time was in 2012 in Kona for the State House. Oh, OK. Yes, it was a difference of 45 votes between myself and the person that moved ahead. Oh, my goodness. I know. 45 votes difference. 45 votes, the slimmest margin of office change. You should go and meet my friend Kameh Waters. I'm fully aware of it. It was like 44 and 22. So you understand what that's like. Yes. Oh, terrific. But tell me, now that you are in the, you've been elected, you have a very famous grandfather. I do. Yeah? Senator Kaka is your grandfather.  We have much to mahalo you for, for having appointed him. Oh, yeah. I had a slight hand. A slight hand. Again, with a slight hand. All right, Brandon, tell us what you've done with Native Hawaiians all over the state. I know this, for those of you who have watched this show before, you have already met Brandon, but let's regurgitate it for you. Regurgitate it again. Well, I am born and raised in the Association of Hawaiian Civic Clubs. I'm the son of two former presidents of the Association of Hawaiian Civic Clubs. I'm the outgoing second vice president for the association. I'm also the president of the Kamehameha Schools Alumni Association. And the reason you had me on the show before with Nalehu Anthony was I was the elected chair for the AHA 2016. So both of you have been involved, at least with Hawaiian activities. I think it's safe to say we both grew up in this and continue to work in this. Grew up. Well, yeah, no choice. And as you remember, Gov, my grandmother, right, Mary Vahino Kalanili, who was the founding member of Pertarco Olave, so. Yes. Yes, yes.  You had no choice. Well, I shouldn't say. We have a choice. You had a choice. And we choose to continue this legacy. He had no choice. No, yeah, grandma didn't have a choice. You're coming with us. Yeah. We're going to go do this. You're going to go walk. You're going to go to watch. You're going to go see the home. You want breakfast? You're coming. You know, how many young people today that are taking leadership have similar experiences. You know, you had memories of, I'm sure you've seen your grandfather in action in the United States Congress. Oh, yes. What was that like? Tell us a little bit about that. I've had the great fortune of growing up in this family and spending my summers alongside of him in Washington, D.C. It's been so inspiring from baby time, seeing that his ability to reach across the aisle to get things done behind the scenes in public. It's just, but where he does it in with the aloha spirit. And that's, I think that's one of the things that people think fondly of him, that his, him being an aloha statesman. And so a lot of what we've been doing, I think, is in working to continue that legacy of service to doing, to putting people first and doing things with the people in mind. Well, fantastic.   So you tell us what it was like. You're better than me. So now you just did. You just told us what you did. Tell us what it was like growing up in a house that was really built around Hawaiian Civic Club. It was, you know, both my parents were founding members of Pro Harbor Hawaiian Civic Club. In fact, my mom is the last surviving founder of Pro Harbor Hawaiian Civic Club.  And if the answer was like, well, nothing. Well, then I don't want to hear about it. So if you're not willing to do something about it, then I don't want to hear about it. And I didn't really start living that way until I got into high school. And issues, you know, that was the mid to late 80s, right? At Komehameha. Right, right. And we all remember what that was. Are both of you Komehameha alumni? I went to Konoaina. She's from Hawaii Island. Yes. Born and raised there, but also raised here. I even went to Maema at one point. But I work at Komehameha school. So, in fact, one of the leads that they gave me a couple of Fridays ago was the Komehameha lay. I felt like I graduated. But you actually graduated from Komehameha. I went to Komehameha. I was a 13-year senior, so I was a lifer. But yeah, I went to Komehameha. So you knew my aunt, Esther McClelland. I knew her very well. She is tough as people say she was. Yes, very much so. Very much so. Yeah, I stayed with her. She was a lovely lady. But I was very much a troublemaker up there because I grew up in a household that taught me to stand up for what I thought was right and what I believed in. And at that time, I'm happy to say that Komehameha isn't like that anymore. But the Komehameha that I went to was you sit down, you be quiet, you're lucky to be here. You don't complain. Right. And I wasn't raised that way. So I complained a lot. No, you got a chance to do that in public. I was very public about it then. And when I was sent to the office and they said, well, we're going to call your parents. And I was like, okay, Ben, sit in Tony Lee. And the response was, oh, those are your parents. Yeah. No, they're going to come up here and argue with you also. Right. That's great. That's really great. What are you guys doing for the anniversary coming up soon? For civic clubs? Yeah. The Honolulu Hawaiian Civic Club, which is the mother club. So that's the club that Prince Jonah Kuhio Kalanianole founded. They turned 100 years ago. They turned 100 years on, I believe December 7th, I think? Or no, sorry, December 16th is their 100th anniversary. And then the association wasn't founded until 1959. But Prince Kuhio founded that club so that Native Hawaiians would get civically engaged and start to learn the Western process. Because if this is a process that we have to live under, then we need to learn it well so that we can beat them at their own game. So both of you are now with the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, right? Have either of you or both of you, have you had a chance to go down there and get oriented? Have they done any kind of orientation with you? Not yet. The week of the 10th, they're putting together an orientation for us. My understanding is the first time they're doing that. Yeah. They've talked about it a lot. But that's why I asked the question. They're actually doing it. They're actually doing it. But that's the class of two, right? Not necessarily. So they said that the two re-elected trustees are invited to come. I made the suggestion to General Counsel that part of that training be about Robert's rules of order and parliamentary procedure and that they make it mandatory for every trustee to attend. You know, that's a good idea. That's a good idea. Well, especially since that's the rules in which we operate on that table. Is it Robert's rules? It's Robert's rules. No. I know there's a different set of rules that the legislature uses. The legislature uses Mason's rules, which is very leadership bias, right? Which is why the Speaker of the House and the President of Pro Tem have so much authority and so much power. OHA operates on the Robert's rules of order, which gives the body the power, not the chair. Oh, see. He's a parliamentarian. Maybe he's the master of that. Well, that's good. OHA needs a parliamentarian. And by the way, I think that Trustee Ahuna would probably agree with that. He likes studying the Robert's rules, and Trustee Wahe might do it. I don't know. But they all should go to orientation. It would all be good. Well, at the very least, if they're going to have a class on parliamentary procedure and Robert's rules of order, I think that every Trustee should be required to attend. If that's the rules on which we operate when we are sitting at that table to make decisions, then everyone should be proficient in it. Yeah, I agree. You agree with that? I 100% agree. Well, you learned something. You got two votes. You got two votes out of nine right now. You just need three more, and you can insist on it.  We get bonuses? You know something? I don't know. Maybe. Absolutely. I never knew that they had a bonus, but who knows. Since you had that slight hand, I would hope you would know. I don't. That's why you guys are on my show today. Tell me what's happening at OHA. Okay, so you get sworn in December 10. We have our investiture December 11th next day. Okay, and where will it be held? At the OHA offices. That's the OHA. The investiture? Yeah, the investiture. Washington Place. Your old house. Yeah, my old house. My hood. The hood. And your hood. Great. So when do you guys, when is your first like official meeting? I mean, when do you decide? December 10. December 10. And then you're going to also deal with things like leadership and the rest of it. As soon as we're sworn in. So you guys must be getting lobbied a lot right now, one way or the other, or have you. Or maybe not. I don't know. No comment. I know that and no comment. Wait, wait, wait until I ask the question so we can sex this up with them. It's like, I know at the legislature that the day, actually even a little bit before, they think that you're going to win. It seems almost historically the house got it together like that. Well, no. It's been times when they didn't. I've been with the, when we actually, when the house would come into session. I think it was back when Jimmy Wakatsuki was chairman or some of those guys or speaker, when the house would come into a session and then recess because they didn't, they weren't organized. So they did and this went on for like two or three weeks. So it's possible. I've seen OHA go through the same thing too. But for them, they usually start, you know, jockeying very quickly. I don't know what the custom is with Office of Hawaiian Affairs, but I am sure that this issue is going to come up. It's going to be the first issue that you face, actually. Well, that's actually the very first decision we have to make. That's why the board meeting is called as soon as we are all sworn in for us to elect, to re-org the board. So elect a new chair, new committee chairs, vice chair, committee vice chairs. Well, since you got the floor, what's your hopes and dreams for OHA? Well, I have big hopes and dreams, Gav, because I remember when you guys did this work in 78, you know. I remember my dad explaining to me what this meant, you know, and what the possibilities finally were for Hawaiians. So that's my hopes and dreams, you know, that OHA finally is able to fulfill what its mission is, which is to better the living conditions of Native Hawaiians and not fight among each other. And, you know, the hard thing is people think that how do you define what better living conditions is? Right? Is it housing? Is it education? Is it economic sustainability? What is it? Oh, yeah. So that's what the trustee should be discussing, not whether or not I should sue you over something or if X beneficiary should get something and Y beneficiary should not get something, that's not what it should be about. Okay. Well, we're going to take a small break in a minute. So when we come back, we'll ask Kalei whether the trustee, the new OAHU trustee, what her hopes and dreams might be for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs. So we'll be right back, folks. Thank you. Aloha. 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We aim to enrich, enlighten, educate, entertain, and we hope to empower. Again, maraming, salamat po, Mabuhay, and aloha. Aloha, and welcome back to Talk Story with John Wahe'i and our guests, the O'ahu trustee for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, Kalei Akaka, and the Ad Lodge trustee, Brandon Lee. And we're having a most interesting conversation. We have two new trustees for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs. By the way, folks, if you have any questions, feel free to call us at<PHONE_NUMBER>.<PHONE_NUMBER>. So we were just talking to Brandon about his hopes and dreams for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs. And what would you like to contribute to the vision? Well, to continue his message here, I think it's really important for our people to be able to come together, to work together when we're talking with each other versus at each other in the most respectful and aloha way possible, to really get things done. So part of my goals and my vision for doing this is through working partnerships. So that's on the city level, that's on the state level, that's on the federal government level, and also with organizations with the same concerns and the same goals. So we all pretty much want the same thing. We want betterment for Native Hawaiian people. But there's ways in doing that where we can rise our people up and the community as a whole rises up together. But I'm really looking forward and pumped to put my experience and my relationships to work, having worked at the legislature, having grown up calling many people like you, uncle. Uncle for many years. Maybe you'll get a payoff though. The benefit is to help the people. Right, but you mentioned working at the legislature. So I started working for Maui Reb Gil-Keith Agaran. He's the judiciary chairman now, right? So you can squeeze for a better definition of what seated lands consist of. Yes, so working with him and then I moved over to the senate side and I worked for Senator Brian Taniguchi. So I did committee work in higher education. I ask you a question. So you worked for the guy that ran the higher education committee. Okay, University of Hawaii sits on seated lands.  Do you believe that ought to translate into at least some kind of tuition support for Native Hawaiian students? Well, I think that's worth talking about. I'm actually interested to hear what your ideas, your mana'u would be on that. Well, actually there was a... I'm all about options and good opportunities. Yeah, because it seems to me like there's needs to be some offset and actually Nalil's mom, Eti-Lili Kala did that, raised that issue on a number of occasions. Right, and she brought it to the civic clubs and we pushed, I think, four or five resolutions through over the last 20 years asking the legislature and UH to waive all tuition for Native Hawaiians because in lieu of the fact that they're not giving us our 20% parada or supposed to be giving us, that all Native Hawaiians who attend the UH system attend tuition free. You know, they've been getting away with it too long. I mean, because you mentioned the 20%, right? There's a requirement by the Hawaii State Constitution that 20% of the revenues generated from what we know as seated lands or called seated lands should go to the Office of Hawaiian Affairs and it's almost a direction of duty, I think, not to have resolved that question with OHA. Except for the four words that you guys put in as provided by law. Yeah, but there's still the mandate. There is? There's still the mandate and it says as provided by law. And I remember we dealt with a similar issue with a Native American tribe in New York and at some point the court said that delay, you know, not doing, not providing by law becomes a violation of due process. Do you think that we can ever get to that point in Hawaii where the court would say or people would say to the legislature, enough is enough, you can't keep passing the ball? I think so. And I think the legislature responds well to public interest, public outcry for the need, the importance of that. So I think there needs to be some gentle reminders to the legislature, but it also takes the work of the Board of Trustees, the CEO, the administration to support this vision and to have the one-on-one relationships at the legislature. So both of you believe that you can, we might be able to work things out? Absolutely. Or do we need another? Give me a time frame, Gough. What, two years? No. No? No, as long as that's in there and given the current federal court status that we have now, I mean, look what just happened in Arizona when they used Rice Via Cayetano to take away adoption rights from Native Americans. Right. No, in the next two years, that's not going to happen. That's the reality. I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful. We clearly need to have more presence at the legislature. We need to have more presence at the governor's office. We need to be more present. You guys think we need another 10,000 people in March? Well, that was fun. I know you guys walked in. I walked in. I remember that. You guys remember everybody walked down through Waikiki? It was over 10,000 people. What a fantastic day they were. There's different ways of showing interest, showing up to hearings, calling for a hearing, putting testimonial forward, calling your senators, calling your representatives, being present, really just being present and showing, this matters to me and this is why. Well, it's going to be important. It is important. If you believe in the betterment of our people, then one of the things you need is resources. In order to meet the pass get hand, we need proper funding, bottom line. Well, we're not going to get the proper funding without the 20%, right? So if Native Hawaiians really want to push that 20% issue for the PLT, then what they really need to be lobbying for is the Sunshine Law. The legislatures get to get things done because what did they do as soon as you guys wrote Sunshine Law into the Constitution was they went and wrote a law that waived them of the Sunshine Law. But yet the Office of Hawaiian Affairs is still stuck with the Sunshine Law. We cannot have meetings behind closed doors to discuss things without the general public they're weighing in on what we're talking about. What? Well, hang on. We also cannot go to the legislature and have those closed door meetings with the legislatures because of Sunshine Law. Is there an actual ruling from somebody that says that the legislation, that the legislature should be setting the standards, ethical and Sunshine standards for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs? The reason why I bring this up because we were talking about my sleight of hand involvement is that the, back in the day, what the purpose of, one of the purposes of creating the office was to have an agency whose focus was on advocating for Native Hawaiians. Now people believe, they don't have since that time taken that to mean that because this is a state agency that somehow it's under the executive branch. It's under the executive branch. And so anything that applies to all the other agencies applies to OHA. That's not necessarily true. Except the court ruled that. Well, when? I know what you're saying, but they never really dealt with these issues. The reason why I bring this up is the city and county, for example, has their own standards. Now, unfortunately, they are specifically put under the Information Act. I was going to say, Council, even neighborhood boards operate on the Sunset? Oh yeah, they all do because they're all part of the executive branches. But I don't think anybody is actually challenged and I've had this conversation with Professor McKenzie. She's actually challenged that whether OHA is an executive agency or not. We just presume it. But that may be for another time. But that's just something to think about. Oh, definitely something to look into then if that's the case. Unless we can have conversations behind closed doors with legislatures and the general public out there can say what they want about hiding and doing all of this. Nothing's going to get done. We're not going to be able to solve these issues. Even if you do have these meetings, the other problem and might be actually the bigger problem is the fact that when you talk about civility and working together, you can't actually meet and do that. Not with more than two of us. Yeah, and so if you actually had a situation which got tight, I've been in situations where we closed the door so five legislators go in there and don't come out until you have a solution. But now the first thing that would happen is my dear friend Richard Borreco would be calling on the door like, let me in, let me in. And so you'd never get rid of a solution. And almost every vote is 5-4, right? Yeah. So what do you do? You can't sometimes... Well, I'm sure that your younger, smarter people will figure out all of these problems. It's about finding balance. But, you know, we talk about partnerships. Yes. One of the other obvious institutions is Hawaiian Homes. And developing a partnership, it seems to me with Hawaiian Homes would be kind of high on the agenda. Absolutely. What? Oh, we're running out of time. So let me give you a real quick another thing. You know that one perfect thing, and I haven't even talked to Trustee Wahe about this yet, or at all, but it's the fact that there are 30 homes sitting vacant on Papakulea. And they're being used by really unsavory elements, I mean, with drug use and all of that. And what they lack is renovation. So, you don't need to answer, but go check it out. Have you spoken to DHHL about this? No, but I've spoken to Kohio Lewis, who told me this. From CNHA. Yeah, and he just told me, and he's looking for a partnership. So it might be a way to do something. Well, OHA finds up to $3 million annually. And I think with everything, we can always do more. So it's about being able to lift each other up and work together to do. There's so much potential. There's so much potential. Oh, thank you. There's so much potential as you say. And I hate to cut it off, but I want to thank you both. It's been a very interesting time that we've had. And good luck. And I know as fellow native Hawaiians that we actually count on you to do what is needed for all of us and for the entire state of Hawaii. So OHA, thank you. We'll continue the conversation.


Good morning team. I just got my morning bed and I got ready in the morning and made a very cool...that's a good way to wake up. I just woke up ten-ish so I'm going to wake up in the morning. I'm going to get ready and go out and wake up and go to ask her if she can get a step away from me. Let's get ready for the day. I'm going to start using my video makeup. It's a very colourful. I'm going to put this on the next day. I'm going to put this on the next day. It means I could be under the charge. I'm going to brush down on the next day. But apparently not. I'm going to have to wait and see. But I don't know. It just seems to have slipped. I'm really out of this day. I couldn't really think of one. I wrote a new notebook yesterday. I'm planning on sending it into like a little plan, I think. I don't know what I have to do all the time because I'm like always racing around and I don't know what I'm doing and I think if I have something that's kind of written I might actually know what I'm doing all the time rather than just possibly doing everything. I don't know. I wrote it yesterday. I think that was great as well. Really, really, I'm happy. I've had no coffee and I've got a pot of coke and I don't want to drink it again if I have coffee and I'll be even more hyper. It tastes like the aftertaste of like friggin' toothpaste. It's killing it. Horrible. I haven't found polo at the moment. I'm honing at any of length. I got the age yesterday and I'm honing it but I'm sure there's pastes of mint and it's flipping horrible. The thing that scares me about the possibility of this jarred is that my mood is so much like, so much like rapidly changing. Like, one minute I'm happy the next time I'm crying last night I was so happy, so hyped, so everything and then I crashed and had my medication. I had two milligrams of LVP an hour later and I crashed my medication and today I'm really locked and tonight I'm going to say being here I feel safe at home. I don't know what's going to happen. That scares me. That is what scares me the most. Okay, what I'm terrified about, right? I'm terrified that they're going to discharge me because I don't feel safe at all. I don't feel stable in my gut. I feel like I keep going up and down, up and down, up and down. I have all this energy. It's weird. I'm not really like this. I haven't ever seen this. Oh, she's happy. She's discharging. I'm terrified because I'm finding the moment but when my mood flips it's the exact opposite. That's when stuff like that happens. That's when things get dangerous and you get it. I can't do it. I can't get help but I can't. Which is what scares me. I kind of feel stable and I reckon Megan said that in the meeting. Apparently I'm seeking a doctor because of that. I wanted to get out of there and get through because I'm hungry but I can't do that. I really think Megan is trying to discharge me today. Apparently the home treatment team are here to see me. I'm terrified because I know my mood's going to flip. Right now, yeah, I'm happy, jury, whatever. Probably won't see you. I can do anything. Tonight, I'll be the opposite. And here, I feel like I'm at home. I don't know.  So I've got a... I'm trying to stop my anxiety medication too again.  Honestly, I don't know how anyone can see us going well.   I just don't get it.  But I told them I don't feel safe. I told them that I feel I was told.  It's not hard, isn't it? I believe that I need an inpatient as a whole.  My big issue with being discharged is how my mood is. Like, I feel like my mood flips. It goes from this and... No, no, no. It's your GB. I'll wait for my dad and then I can go and then I'll be happy. Like, I didn't even... I didn't even... I didn't even go and give him the connoisseur pound.  Like, it's him. I don't want people to tell you it's the wrong way. Right? We want to bring him home. Like, yeah, I'm happy to go if I don't know what I really want. I really want to be at home.  So my mood is just more changeable than it's ever been. And maybe new levels like high and low. And I don't get it. Can you guys listen to the vlogs? Can you see what I feel like? Can you know what I feel like? Will you discharge me? I've packed the bomb, I've got stuff in the door. And I've got some stuff in the office. Why do I have that watch in there? I guess the mat in here is... I've got discharged. I'll go with that. I've got discharged too early. I've not run off the schedule, so I guess...