and look forward to seeing the final designer view package. So thanks, Michael. Um, I actually did have one question. I'm sorry. So on the ground floor on the West side, there's a restroom and I'm assuming that's a restroom for maybe the guardhouse, right? Yes. No. Applicant looks like they're raising their hand. Michelle. Troy is the architect. He can answer the question, I believe. Can you guys hear me? Yes. That's correct. So the, that restroom is for the guardhouse and also for come of the outdoor area that's right there for the employees. Perfect. Yeah. I, I, I was scratching my head on that one and I was like, wait a second, I bet you that's what it's for. Yeah. Awesome.  I think I, I, I did the same thing. I did a little bit of a double take and I went, wow, they really amp this up big time. They took something that, you know, was just the tilt up structure before. And you guys have really just taken a really nice ownership of it. And it's, and it's what's great about it is it's really simple gestures that'll actually read over time and are fairly low maintenance too, which is super cool. So I really love the, the, the kind of the, the different angular kind of grooves in the main walls. And then I really like how you've bookended the corners with a different color. Um, and then actually, uh, I don't know if everybody else caught this, but on one of the renderings you guys have, you're actually, it looks like you're showing adjacent buildings being repainted. And if that's the case, I think that's super cool. Yeah. That's it. You're going to unify the campus, which is exactly to try to pull it all together. Yeah. It's super. I think that's really great. Um, it's, it's just, it's a simple gesture that brings everything together. Um, I, I, I, I love the striations, the different varied striations between kind of the, the bookends, like I said, and then the, kind of the main panels. And then just the introduction of a little bit of glazing where, where you can put it in, right?  You don't want any of those things in a grow, grow house, grow, grow rooms. Um, so you're, you're, you're just being really tasteful with how you're using the glazing that you do have. Um, and, uh, I would say just my opinion, this to me looks 99% like a, a ready to go for, for major design review. I'm not seeing anything glaring that's missing. Um, my only criticism and maybe this is just a personal pet peeve is I'm not a huge fan of the wall packs, but because I don't feel like it really integrates with your new design. But that being said, if that's the kind of wall pack that's on every other building, then I wouldn't monkey with it too much because obviously that's, it's a, it's a maintenance thing, right? So like why buy one wall pack just for this one building and when, you know, there's 50 other wall packs on the rest of the buildings that are all the same. Yeah. And I believe the site was upgraded maybe a couple of years ago with all those new wall packs. So we were just kind of keeping consistent with that. Yeah. Yeah. And again, that's, I think that's just me being, me being an architect. I'm like, yeah, well, I don't know about that. I'd rather have something that's a little more, you know, angular or whatever to knit to kind of match what's going on. But that's, you know, that's just me being nitpicky, I think. So with that, I think we've done our comments. Do you, Troy, as the architect, or I guess maybe Katie, as the applicant, you guys have any other comments or thoughts from us? No. Just appreciate you guys' time. Thank you. Looks like Katie's raising her hand, Michelle. Katie, you should be able to unmute. You have speaking permissions. Can you hear me now? Yes, we can. Go ahead. I just want to thank you guys. We developed this out of abandoned buildings that had been abandoned for a lot of years. And we're pretty darn proud of where we've gotten with this site. This is the next real step for us. Obviously, monetarily, this is a big investment. But again, we're going back. We just repaved our private streets and things. We're going to go back and work at upgrading these additional buildings that have been just plain old gray, tilt up since they were built. So I appreciate this. Troy is a rock star. We really want to move this forward. So we'd like to get it built and the revenues started sooner rather than later. So we appreciate you. Well, thank you. And I think maybe when this comes for final design review, if it's all the same, we'll just vote on it, I think, is what I'm hearing. So thanks so much, guys, and we'll move on to item 8.4. So thank you very much. Have a good one. All right, you guys ready to move on? Need a break or anything? Keep it rolling? All right. So let's go to item 8.4, Aviara Apartments, Concept Design Review, 1385 West College Avenue, DR 22-019. And I will turn it over to the project planner, Susie Murray, for a staff presentation. Thank you very much. Good evening, Chair Weigel and members of the DRB. I've asked our host and yeah, our team, our admin team there to help me because I've only got one computer tonight. So the project before you is another concept review item. So I'd like to let members of the public know that there are no decisions being made tonight and I'd really like to open with that. You can go to the next slide. The Aviara Apartments is an approved project. The Zoning Administrator acted on it back last year, in December of last year, after it received comments from the Design Review Board in August. The project is made up of six residential structures. There's 136 units in all. 135 of them will be designated as affordable homes. For a period of 55 years, there will be a deed restriction. Those are made up of a mix of two and three bedroom apartments and it has associated amenities, some designated child play areas and teen play areas, which was really a nice feature. It's got a community garden and then of course the trash enclosures in the parking and whatnot. So next slide.  The project site is located at 1385 West College. Here's an aerial view of the site and surrounding area and if you can just click one more time. We've got residential to the north, to the west, and to the south and then commercial just for context. That's where Safeway is. Used to be the G&G market to the east. Next slide, please. Oh, I'm sorry. I also wanted to say the park. There's a Lehman Elementary Park or elementary school is just to the north. Okay. Now next slide. The general plan land use designation is medium high density. This project did receive a density bonus as well. So they've got, gosh, I believe there are six, 18 density bonus units at 16%. And I may have those numbers flip-flopped. So, but they do have density bonus units. The project is consistent with the North Station priority development area. And that's a priority development area. That's why it was concept review with the design review board where I will say that you really praised the project and then it went forward to the zoning administrator. So next slide, please. Here's, it's not the proposed site plan. It's actually the approved site plan. And I think that the next slide, let's move to the next slide. The next slide really shows it a little bit better with the landscaping. So there's two buildings on the, it's actually the east and west, but at the top and the bottom here. And then to one building on the end caps. And those are the north and south sides of the parcel. And then if you can advance just one more, these two arrows show the two points of entry. So it'll take access off of West College Avenue as well as off Cal Lane. So next slide. Here's the difference in the elevations, which for me it's very difficult to understand really what the difference is here. So this shows the two and I'll give you kind of a summary of the changes. And I know that the design team or the applicant has a pretty comprehensive presentation that they'll be able to explain the changes a little bit better. So next slide. So to summarize, and I'm going to say the first two reasons here are the bullet points, removing the decks and storage areas from all elevations and using stucco as not the primary, but the only exterior siding and then ain't to break up the math thing. Those are the two reasons really that I am bringing this before you again as a concept item. Those are the two things that I wasn't comfortable making that call. And the zoning code does allow staff to approve this at the director level. So I'm relying on you, the professionals to help me with this. The landscaping changes, reducing the planter container sizes. I don't see a problem with that. They will remain in compliance with the city's tree ordinance, eliminating raised beds in the community garden area, removing the perimeter, the perimeter perimeter fences. Sorry, I missed a word there or added an extra. That's something else I would really like the board to weigh in on. Then changing the asphalt instead of concrete in the dry vials and then swapping out some of the landscaping furniture with more durable, less expensive fixtures. So next slide, please. Whoops. Back up one. There were some public comments received. Just to summarize them, a copy of those comments. It was kind of a group effort from the neighbors on Manhattan Way, which were very active in the first review. The view of the building will look like big stucco boxes. They were also expressed concern that the occupants who live in the boxes won't have any immediate access to the outdoors. I would like to point out that there are common outdoor areas, but their concern was no fresh air without going downstairs to get to it. The lack of storage for bicycles and outdoor toys will result in a cluttered site. And impacts from eliminating the fence and the impacts to the neighbors on Manhattan again is that they will have a view of the parking lot. And I will say the fence was something that came up in the original discussion at the zoning administrator. And so a view and also vehicle noise came up. I also had a caller that suggested not just noise, but vehicle fumes, exhaust fumes, without having that fence. Most, there is a, I think it's a 75 or 80 foot wide PG&E easement that runs almost the, well, like 75 percent of the property line, the western property line. So it does separate those backyards along Manhattan from the fumes, but, and from the noise. So, but yeah, there was concern about the fence. So next slide. So again, pursuant to zoning code section 2016, 080, these changes may be made at the director level. Given the extent of the changes being proposed, staff is seeking guidance from the design review board. And I'm going to leave it at that night. My applicant does have a presentation that they would like to share if you have any questions for me, otherwise we can just move right into theirs. I'm sorry, if I could just have the applicant's raise their hand for me really quick, so you can come up to the top. Perfect. Thank you, Chris and Jeff. You should both have permission to speak now. Okay, this is Chris McKellar. So as you may, next slide, you've already seen this, can you, yeah, you've already seen this slide to go to the next one, which, thank you. So the purpose of this is it stem from us, you know, getting this project approved, and then going out, then developing the plans to the point where we could bid them, and becoming shocked at what we found. By the rapid and recent rising construction costs, which include both labor and materials, everybody knows inflation is happening, but it's really happening in the construction trades. They've occurred largely in the last eight months and have added at least 10% to direct construction costs, and have created for us a budget shortfall in excess of $2 million. You know, the city may not know that this project is limited in rental revenue to a maximum of 60% AMI, which is the area of medium income, and has apartment rents that are further limited all the way down to 30% of AMI. And the project's also disadvantaged because affordable housing has not given any help from the city and agencies on impact fees, use fees, plan check, rent fees, school fees, or utility demand fees. These fees for Aviara are $3.48 million. We pay the same as everybody else, except for obviously the affordable fee. Aviara is also required, you know, so all the other things, the ADA, entitled 24, as well as, you know, the, you know, we also have to put in solar, which, you know, we don't object to, but it's expensive. The 511 solar panels in this case, which because there's so many required that we have to build car ports for some of them, because the total roof area is not sufficient to hold all of them. And we're also installing EV charging capability. Interesting there, you know, we're totally for that. I mean, we don't have any objection to any of this stuff, which we have to do, but it's expensive. But for instance, on EV charging, we believe it's a way of the future. And even though our requirement is only to put in 27 spaces, you know, for EV charging, we're actually putting in the capability of doing 98, because 98, because we know we believe that in the future there's going to be such demand from our tenants, because they'll have affordable EV cars, and we want to be able to service them. But huge amount of cost increase. And that's why we're here. You know, we also can't use natural gas. I'm sure you know that the ordinance, which isn't that old, that said you can't use natural gas in projects such as this. Electricity is a lot more expensive, and electrical appliances are much more expensive to buy and operate than natural gas appliances. So we're squeezed by all of this from the top to the bottom. And that's why we're making these requested changes. And if you have any questions about anything more about the requested changes, be happy to try to answer them. And so I could do that now, or I could respond to the I saw the letter of, you know, from the collective letter from the people on Manhattan. I'd be happy to respond to those if you'd like me to. So actually, I think what we'll do is, if that concludes your applicant presentation, we'll turn it over to our public comment period. And it looks like, so Chris, McKellar and Jeff Johnson, if you guys have done talking, if you could lower your hands, so that we can turn it over to public comment, and we'll see who in the virtual audience would like to comment on this project. And again, it's a concept item. So it's not a public hearing, but we do like to grant it three minutes, two members of the public, if they wish to comment on the project. So we'll, it looks like I'm seeing a couple, a couple of folks here on the call still, and I'm seeing hands go up. So I'm going to turn it over to Michelle to coordinate public comment. Hey, thank you so much, Linda. You should have a prompt allowing you to speak. And if you could please start by stating your full name for the record. Okay, can you hear me? We can go ahead. Okay, my name is Linda Freebarron, and I live on Manhattan. My first comment would be that if funds are not available, maybe postpone the project, I don't think anybody on our street would complain, but that aside is kind of a little sarcastic joke. Okay, so first of all, the fence removal. Yes, there is the PG&E easement. I think I'm on the west side of the street, but the people that are on the east side of the street, even though there is that PG&E easement, it will still be open to the parking area. One concern is that there have been off and on homeless people camping out on the easement, and they come and go, but they have had a problem there in the past, and I would think for protection's sake, if nothing else, they would want that fence. I feel bad for the families. We're talking about most of these are three bedroom units, and to have no balconies, it's not like it's Sage Commons, the new apartments that are over on college that are right on the sidewalk. Well, I would not want a balcony if I lived there, but there's going to be room for balconies, so I think it is just a cheapo change. There's room for it, and I think the families deserve that, a little bit of personal outdoor space. The comment about the EV cars and all that, that's curious, because in the first design, I mean in the first meeting that, or maybe it was the second meeting that we listened to, they're talking about the way that the future is not EV cars, the way that the future is no cars, and that is why they aren't providing enough parking spaces, but now we're saying it's EV cars, so where are they going to park, because there's not going to be enough parking for the cars. It's three bedroom units, there's going to be two cars per, and yet there's only like one point something, one point three or something parking spots per unit. So those are my concerns, I think that it's just a lot of cost-cutting measures that they should be able to figure out a way to make it work. I guess that's all, I'm ending 40 seconds early, so yay for me. Oh, and if the lady that didn't talk about the tree, I hope that that gets addressed to, she came on very, very beginning of the meeting, but had it was deferred to this meeting, but yeah saving those oak trees should be a priority, and that's it, thanks. Thank you so much, next we have caller 5933, if you could please press star six to unmute, and then please start by stating your full name for the record. Yes, we can, go ahead. My name's Theresa Hughes, and I rent a studio space on Calilane, I am the lady that called us beginning of the meeting, and it's a really long meeting, and kudos to all of you guys for doing this work, this is actually really fascinating. I'm just going to read a little statement so that I don't ramble on forever, um, my comments regarding the two large heritage oak trees on the eastern boundary of the site, and they're slated for removal, and I'm asking the design review board to withhold approval of the project and consider a landscape design that incorporates the trees. I think the city's doing a great job, they've created a lot of needed affordable housing, but I don't think we should overlook the importance of preserving environment. I created a petition around the Calilane neighborhood, and there were no residents that one of these trees removed. I sent it along with photos and measurements documenting other examples around Santa Rosa, where the existing oak trees had been incorporated into the neighborhood design, one being Franklin, which is right around the corner from my house. It's a beautiful old tree and they went right around it with the street and the sidewalk, and you know these are native oaks, their scale and heritage is not going to be replaced by offset landscaping, see examples of that everywhere, and they don't require any additional water and improve the air quality and provide shade and habitat, and they're beautiful, and you know they're the heritage of this area, and I think all that adds value to the project and probably saves money in landscaping, and you know the reality is it's a time when we're all becoming aware of the climate and the fragility, and I hope the city will take a long view and you know protect their beauty and the resources we have right here, and continue to grow this city, but keep these things in mind, and that's my comment. Great, thank you so much. Next up we have Don. Don, if you you should have a prompt allowing you to unmute, and if you could please start by stating your full name for the record. Hi, my name is Don King, and I own the property at 1380 West College Avenue. It's directly across the street from the middle of the project. The property's been in my family since 1977. It's always been a pleasure to see the wide open walnut orchard across the street, so it's going to be a major change for this property here and the neighbors and this neighborhood, and my main concern here is just the aesthetics of the building that everybody's going to see as they're passing by, and also my you know the property there that's right across the street. I'm very concerned that it's going to reduce any charm that you could have from balconies and the aesthetics of the property, and with the different types of materials that would have been used instead of just the big stucco box. That's really my main concern here, and I'm just hoping that you're going to help preserve this project as it was approved, and also I think that this neighborhood and the city of Santa Rosa deserves a nice looking project here. So that's all I really have to say. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Next we have Judy and Greg. You should have a prompt allowing you to unmute, and if you could please start by stating your name for the record. Hi, this is Judy Irvis, like service, only Irvis. I wanted to point out that the letter that Susie referred to was actually signed by about a dozen of us on Manhattan Way, and something that just came to my mind while the previous person was talking was about the balconies, and most people when they have balconies either hang some plants or put plants on the railing of the balcony, and that's something that would break up the large expanse of the building and look pretty, and without the balconies that won't be there. So most of us are very opposed to this change, and quite honestly we don't feel like we've been heard in previous meetings, so I'm not so sure we're going to be heard in this meeting, but there it is, and that's all I have to say. Thank you. Thank you so much. All right, I just want to remind our poll and attendees that if you would like to raise your hand, please press star nine. Okay, and I'm not seeing any other hands. And neither am I.  All right, I'll kick it off. Well, I was really intrigued to hear about the scale of the solar and the EV capabilities in this building, and on the landscape plan, on the site plan, I can't see exactly where those solar panels are. Where are the 551 solar panels going? I'll defer to the applicant on that. Okay, so this is Chris McKellar again. They're going in the rooftops, and there's other equipment up there obviously for HVAC and whatnot, and as a result, there just isn't enough room for the 457 kilowatt powering panels that were required to do by the ordinances in the city. Okay, so some are also going in the driveway area, or in the parking area? Yes, we need to elevate them from the ground obviously, and that's one way that it can be done, but it may be the only other way that it can be done, other than rooftops, by putting carports and putting them on top of it. Interesting, and this is slightly tangential, but are you providing 96 actual charging stations? No, we're running conduit from the putting the sub-panels in, and running conduit to the areas where we will and where we will have charging stations, and probably put in the underground where it's all we have to do is connect to that and run the wires. And at the beginning, we're going to put in capacity for 48, and because we think that it's going to take off that quickly, we may be wrong, but it'll be there in the ground for whenever it does happen. So we just don't want to be turn up the streets at a later date and turn up the landscaping in order to extend the capacity. We want to do it right away. Well, as an EV fan, I applaud that. And my final question is, understanding the value engineering, what was the logic of keeping the painting scheme the same? I see the logic in the original presentation when you had balconies and you had other elements on the facade. But once those were removed, was there any thought given into putting a different scheme in place? Not really. We didn't really want to change the look of the building. We just, in the reduction of cost, we like those colors. We think that they will enliven the building and make it not look like a box, for instance. And so that's why we just said, let's just do this, reproduce the look from the street. And that's why we didn't want to redesign it. We just wanted to make modifications that were fairly easy to do. So we wouldn't have to start from square one. One of the problems is, we have a commitment now from the CHICAC, which is the state authority to distribute tax credits. And that ends on June 6th. And so we've been frantically trying to get these plans through the building department and engineering departments. And we're doing pretty well on that. We feel we're on schedule. So we didn't want to make any wholesale changes that require structural change or anything like that because we need to get going on. Otherwise, we lose those tax credits. And this project, the lady that talked about earlier being delayed, she would get her wish. And we don't want that to happen. Understood. I'll stop my questions there. Thank you. Thanks, Mark. And just if you may not know, a lot of the requirements that the applicant is talking about in terms of solar ready and or solar systems and or EV charging, those things are required by the California building code either in Cal Green or the California election. There's a lot of different places that it shows up, but they're all mandated by the state controlled information. And the thing that may you may not know, also he did mention as well is electrical appliances are there's an ordinance in the city of Santa Rosa for all for electric electrification of housing. So all housing is required to be electrified and not have natural gas. And that's part of a carbon reduction initiative that's kind of happening statewide and is also backed up by a couple of different codes that are coming into effect in the next couple of years. So it's a currently it's a reach code what's called a reach code. So it exceeds the base code by the state, but it will very soon be not a reach code in probably the next two years. So just some history there. Understood. What I do for a living, right? Well, I wasn't I wasn't meaning to criticize the city of Santa Rosa. But I understand and I and I'm for it. It's just it's just that it's a hardship on this particular project because of the rents, you know, the rents are so low. Yeah, I just, you know, I know you're not criticizing necessarily, but it's it's important. I think for our board, if they're, you know, Mark Mark is an architecture aficionado, but he is not a practicing architect like I am. So sometimes it's helpful for both our board and also members of the public to understand where some of the stuff comes from. Because sometimes it's hard to realize where like, you know, like, oh, I can't afford my project because gotta put solar on and it's like, well, guess what state of California requires it too bad. That makes sense. So anyway, Adam questions. Yeah, that explainer is helpful. I think so everyone knows that these kind of these are not necessarily nice amenities. They're actually required. So yeah, question for the applicant.  Yes, you don't. If you don't get them, it's just going to derail everything. Yes. Yeah, I imagine that you wouldn't have come back without that level of anxiety for it or stress. So yeah, I think questions that, you know, basically, I'm going to defer to Drew on this because he's, as he said, this is what he does for a living. And I think that, you know, some of this this value engineering in cost, you know, can have opinions on it, but it's very much, you know, I know from the I'll have I'll have thoughts on the landscape side of things. And but yeah, it's not necessarily opinion. It's more of like, okay, how do we how do we carve a way here? So I understand that. So Drew, I'll be very interested to hear what you have to say. Michael, any questions? No questions. Thanks. I have, I think two questions maybe. So I'm looking at the side by side elevation. And I understand that you guys are proposing, but I guess my question is, in the original package, you had like building a and building or a you had like a one, a two, b one, b two, right. And they were essentially the same building, but they had like flip flopped color schemes. And you've only shown kind of building ABC here with no flip flop color schemes. And so I'm just curious if you know, and is to have the flip flop color schemes, you're just only showing the three because it's easier kind of thing. Okay, you know, architectures on the phone, I, you know, if we can, we can certainly do that same color scheme. That doesn't make any difference at all to the costs, you know, what colors we use. And I think that's, I like that idea, actually. And I'm not sure why they didn't appear on this, but we can certainly do that. You just, you know, instruct Susie's to do so. Yeah, it's okay. I mean, it's just because you have in the approved plan set that Susie included as part of the package, there's a one, a two, a, a one, b, a two, b, a one, c, and a two, c, and that's in the approved package. So then, you know, work. Yeah. And then when you look at the side by side elevations that are being proposed, it only it just drops it down to one color scenario. And I don't think that was necessarily the intent. I think he was probably just like, Hey, this is kind of what it looks like I'm building a this is kind of what it looks like I'm building b and this is kind of looks like it's building c if we make this change. And I'm just trying to confirm that that if that's the way we kind of direct you guys to go or whatever, it'll be okay with the kind of the color inverse that is shown in the original you're absolutely correct. You are happy to do that. Okay, perfect. And then the other question I had was, let me get to a site plan real quick. That's not the one I want. I'm sorry. Okay, so this is maybe a cookie question. Did you guys look at like deleting a building to cut costs? Just out of like, so keep the buildings exactly as they are and then like, building a two is gone. And maybe you build it later after you rent this for a couple of years and then you build it. You see what I'm saying? Did you look at that as an option? You know, that unfortunately, it wouldn't work.  And if you come back on the site and start construction again, at a later date, it's just horribly more expensive. And so we, it really doesn't make any logistical or economic sense to do that. Okay. I mean, I would disagree with both, but I think there are ways around it. But but then again, you know, I don't necessarily know your funding mechanisms, right? I don't know if there's some specific you're still amortizing credit or what have you that you're trying to go after that requires that there's a unit count maybe tied to the funding and submit. The billions of I mean, it's the land is the site improvements. It's all the all the things you put into it that's in the architecture. All that stuff is is already sunk cost. And now you have fewer, fewer buildings to to pay for. And that's that's the difficulty. I'm not I'm sure you have some strategies and things. But I don't even know what the with the tax credit effect of that would be. And and by the way, Sherry Hoffman from who's the president of Chelsea Investments, who's who's the, you know, superstar when it comes to affordable housing, making the project work is here. And she can she can speak to that if you'd like her to. She's here to I mean, I'm okay. I just, you know, it was more my curiosity in terms of I think, you know, where from hearing what the public had to say, and my own knowledge of our design guidelines and where your project has been and where you are now, I just my wheels got to spinning about like, hey, what if you didn't sacrifice the design of your buildings and just didn't build one of them? You know, that's that's all I was kind of thinking about. I mean, you know, I don't necessarily think we need to get into the weeds of the various funding mechanisms of affordable housing instead of California, which is its own Ouija board of kind of complexity at times, unless anybody else thinks we need to. Otherwise, I think we can move on to comments. Is that is that cool? Everybody just give me a thumbs up. Okay, cool. So let's just move forward to comments here. And so again, this is concept, obviously. And then Susie, am I assuming just to clarify this would not come back to us? It would go to the ZA after we've made our comments, correct? Or coming back to us? No, neither. This is a decision. The design changes can be made at the director level. And I these are I want to hear from you guys on the design changes. Okay, you just wanted I take action before the direct, okay, before director level action. Okay, that's what I thought I heard. I just wanted to concern. Yeah, it's yeah, there's so many different ways to do things these days. You know, we've got reduced review authority got this we got that it's always going to be clear. So as Michael would ask, this is our bite at the apple, so to speak. So that being said, I will go to board member staff for his comments on the project. Yeah, as Adam mentioned, I might defer to others a bit more experience on this one with particular reference to the economies that are being made here. The facade is it's I'm not sure whether I'm not sure whether there are other there are other things that can be done within the within the budget for the project, because I'm very sensitive to the costs. And so I'd like to hear feedback from the rest of you on on the board. My only aesthetic judgment is that the painting scheme again, it did, I saw the logic with respect to the first, the first design and now it's just seen it seemed almost more like a sort of Trump Lloyd kind of approach to to building painting. But frankly, that's it's a that's a probably a minor aesthetic point. And I wouldn't want to I wouldn't want to lose housing units as a result of that of that, you know, that that relatively minor quibble. But I'm curious to hear what the rest of you have to say. So that being said, Adam, do you want to wait to that to hear Michael and myself? We can circle back to mark to you. Um, no, that's okay. I could go just to before. Yeah, because, um, yeah, I'm interested to hear about the comments on the architectural value engineering. And, yeah, in particular, it's the removal of the decks is is a difficult one to swallow. But I understand, I understand why. Um, so, uh, in the landscape architecture wing of the of the board, I can speak to your your site, site trimmings and, and unfortunately, you know, I get it. The landscape architects and landscape folks are used to to this part we usually are brought in at the end and first thing to get trimmed off, or at least shrunk down, which is kind of is what you're doing. Yeah, the, um, you know, the so Susie, for you, um, you know, the the reducing the size of the plants, definitely some easy cost savings there. It's always great to go bigger, um, to begin with. But, uh, you know, that's save some save some money there. There's also an argument you made that it's a you actually get healthier plants that way in the long term. So, um, from an ecological perspective, it's okay. Um, uh, the let's see here, understand the concrete pavement, get that. That's fine. The wood furniture, um, do material that will not weather and be more permanent. Also, um, understand that, you know, site furnishings very much the way you can get some savings. Um, the, uh, remove the plate raised planter beds. Um, sure, understand that as well. Um, I would recommend against not doing the victory garden and in ground planting, um, scheme. I would actually encourage you to look at having, um, if you're going to be taking out the community gardens, uh, go for go for try to look at it in a flexible space. Um, rethink it rather than trying to just continue it without the raised beds. Um, in ground plantings, um, are going to be, it will turn into a maintenance nightmare and, and will be, uh, uh, you know, upkeep. Um, I mean, the nice things about raised beds is it's away from the ground. You don't have to bend down to actually do it. It's from a user standpoint. It's, it, they're much easier. Um, in grounds, you're dealing with go furs and wildlife and everything. Um, I would say, uh, um, you know, the, the, the idea of the community garden is really great. Um, in ground is going to be, um, it'll be, um, really problematic. And so I'd say rethink your, your spots there. Um, we have that too in the one in the corner, in particular to, um, just think of it, think of it as a gathering space. Think of it as a, you know, um, you know, creating a palette where the, the, um, the people who live here, the residents can, can then activate it how they will. Don't necessarily prescribe, you don't have to prescribe everything. And so, um, so if you're creating something flexible, that's okay. Um, you can create something with, uh, with the DG. You can create something with, you know, articulate this space just a little bit to find the space, but leave it open. I would recommend against the in-ground, um, victory garden style thing. Um, uh, in the fencing, um, yeah, that's, uh, it's unfortunate to have that go, but I, I do understand that as well. Um, I'm glad that you're keeping the color palette. I'm glad you're keeping some of the articulation there. And, um, yeah, it's, it's unfortunate, um, that, uh, all of this, uh, the cost, cost management has to happen, but, um, we are in very unique times.  And so we kind of figure out how we do that. And so, um, thank you for thinking creatively about how you could do that. And, um, yeah, it's unfortunate that, um, that we are where we are. And, uh, yeah, I'll be interested to hear, um, what the architect has to say about, um, these solutions. Okay. Hope that helps, Susie. Um, best of luck. Thanks, Adam. Uh, I'm going to jump in front of Michael here, not for comments, but I realized something. It's just a clarifying item. Remove concrete pavement in the dry vials and replace with asphalt paint. I'm assuming you mean the concrete, like, uh, ADA crosswalks in the dry vials, correct? Uh, is that a question for? Yeah, question of the applicant. Yeah, yeah. So just replacing the, uh, the granite creed in the, uh, in the, in the stamp concrete in the, in the, you see on the, on the, uh, on the site plan, the colored site plan, uh, that looks like yellow crossings. And instead of, obviously we have, we have sidewalks that are concrete, but when you then, when they cross the, the dry vials, they, they become, um, you know, stamp concrete, which is always a problem that, you know, cracks them. So we just, we'd like to just paint them with a really good, uh, paint the same color and they would actually be more permanent, uh, and more, um, and, um, a lot less maintenance. Yeah. I just wanted to clarify that one. So thank you. Sorry about that, Michael. I just, as, as Adam was going through the list, I was like, wait a second, let me clarify what this is because I looked at the plans. I went, wait, there is no concrete in the dry vials. I was thinking the dry vial was concrete in my head for some reason. Yeah. And just, just that, you know, it's nice to have the change of materials. Um, but it, uh, you know, that's, that's an easy, easy cost save right there. So yeah. Okay. And actually into that, um, Chris, uh, one thing I would recommend also is don't necessarily, you don't necessarily need to try and, uh, mimic what you, the original design was with the articulated, um, articulation and material. Maybe it's not going to be this swath of, of, of yellow paint. Um, think about how you can create those, uh, those crosswalks some other way too. Okay. You know, with less paint, but yeah, I did, I appreciate the effort and wanting to keep the, the, um, you know, the spirit of what your design was. And that's what I see what you've been doing with, with these is keeping the spirit of your design while, you know, saving some money. So I'd like to put a little art, art in there. It is thinking about maybe a combination of colors or something that would be cool. Not weird, but definitely. Yeah. All right. Uh, Vice Chair Birch comments. Yeah. A couple of thoughts. Um, I'm going to start with landscaping, which is kind of number three on my list in terms of the, uh, significance of the changes. Um, I really could follow Adam's recommendations across the board there in terms of the need to, to, um, and some of the advantages in a couple of cases and his, uh, you know, thoughts toward not trying to just put a garden in where a garden was and maybe make, if you're going to make the change, make a more realistic change that does allow for some, um, programming to, to be a bit more, you know, on the residents and that sort of thing. So really from a landscaping change standpoint, I'm good. I am going to say that Ms. Hughes comments regarding the heritage oaks. Um, I would strongly support keeping those in the project. I don't, I know we're trying to cut costs here, but I do know Cal Lane and I do know those trees and, um, I'm a, I've grown up amongst oaks here in Sonoma County. Uh, they are significant, they are important. And if there was a way to keep those in the plan, I would just really think you should take a, take a closer look. Uh, moving up to number two on my list of considerations here, um, as far as the materials change for Stucco, um, from a variety of materials, I'm not, uh, so I want, I want affordable housing to be built. I think this project met a dignified minimum standard for livability and appearance. And I think we think that was the, the nature of our discussion. Uh, when we did approve the project at the level that we saw before, um, I think that these changes to the finishes, it drops just below that threshold. Would that be enough for me to say I don't support the changes if it was just the appearance of the building? Uh, no, it would not be. I would say we need affordable housing built. But when I go to my number one concern about the removal of the decks in the storage areas, uh, I say, yes, it does actually move us beyond where I feel comfortable saying you have a livable project and that I really think that you need to consider, um, maintaining those elements. Would I go for the Stucco versus the materials that you had before if the decks and storage areas were still in? Yes, I would. Um, I think that the neighborhood concerns that we've heard about, um, not having adequate storage space or decks or recreational space and those sorts of things, I take those real serious. I think that the project like this has a much longer financial life and a much longer life as a part of the community than what we're dealing with right now with tax credits by June and material costs and all these other things. So I'm not supportive of the removing the decks and the storage and the changes in materials. I just, I'm not. We're going to be here in Santa Rosa with this project for 40, 50, 60 years, well beyond this short window of material costs, tax credits, and the need for affordable housing. The need for affordable housing is real. We need to get it done. Um, and I think you need to find other places to solve this problem. So that's my two cents and those are my comments. Thanks. Can I, can I say some, can I say something? Sure. Okay. So, so one thing about outdoor spaces, you know, we do have the community center and other places on site, but beyond that, Jenny's Park is 150 feet away and Vinley Community Park is 1100 feet away. It was so many recreational resources, as you know. So these people aren't going to be stifled. Um, I would like to, um, I would like to introduce, uh, as I was saying, Sherry Hoffman and Sherry, can you raise your hand and speak specifically about the decks and, uh, and, and how, what your experience has been with them throughout all the developments that you've been involved with as an advisor, uh, and as a, uh, participant in the, in the management, uh, through your career. So could you, could you raise your hand, please?  Thank you. Yes. Um, this is Sherry Hoffman, um, affordable housing developer. Um, and we do develop many projects for families without the balconies, what we, uh, and, and more so in recent years. Um, what we do find is it does encourage people to utilize the, um, outdoor open spaces and, and really gather, uh, and kind of create a feeling of a community within a community, because there are a great amount of outdoor spaces and also the indoor community room, uh, as far as gathering goes. Um, but what we really find is how grateful the families are to move into affordable housing, quality, affordable housing located in nice communities, close to parks, schools, services, shopping. Um, and, and we see a real pride in, in the people living, um, in projects just like Aviera and who I believe will be proud to live at Aviera because the rents are 30, 40, 50% below market. So, you know, it gives people pride in where they live in a nice community. And we find that you really don't care about the balconies. Thanks for that, Sherry. Um, so, uh, uh, Michael, anything else from you? No, no, I've made my comment. I think Santa Rosa lives with this project for some time. And, um, we understand affordable housing up one side and down the other, and I'm incredibly supportive. But when a project slips below, um, what I consider to be a standard for a project that's going to be part of Santa Rosa for a long time, I'm going to comment. So. Okay. I appreciate you, Michael. Um, okay. So my comments, um, I'm just going to go down the list of the proposed changes here real quick. And then I've got some additional comments, kind of like Michael did. Um, landscaping, I agree with, uh, Adam, you're reducing the planter sizes, you know, the box size, whatever it is, um, you know, if you got to do it, you got to do it. We do it on so many projects, particularly school projects. We find that that happens kind of at the end of the project. They're like, wait, we've got to put plants in. And, uh, then you're like, wait, we got to buy the small ones because you don't have money left. So I totally agree with that. I would agree with Adam on the raised planters, to reinvent the area as opposed to just say, Hey, make a victory garden. Funny enough, I was on vacation over the Christmas holidays and we were driving around the neighborhood, not, not here on the east coast. And they had one of these, they had several victory gardens and they were just like, it was in a nice neighborhood, like nice, like, you know, cashy expensive homes. And it was like the most eyesore, blight thing you could have ever seen in your life, because it just wasn't taken care of, which is very different than I think raised planters. Raised planters seem to have much more of a lifespan in terms of, yeah, and they're smaller. And yeah, so I think victory gardens is not the answer. Removal of the fencing I think is problematic. And for a lot of different reasons, you know, safety of your property, safety of other property, you know, I think we heard from public last time about, they really wanted the fencing. And then I think we heard tonight again that the fencing needs to stay in.  But I wouldn't lose them all together. I think that's not the high dollar item. Concrete paving I'm cool with. And I think, you know, don't go haywire with the paint, be respectful with paint.  And then the wood furniture material chain is some more permanent. I don't have a problem with that either. So I'm going to go back up here to the pop outs. So I don't know if you guys remember Scott Kincaid, but he was a chair of our board before me. Scott would lose his marbles over this exterior pop outs in stucco foam. Stucco foam is not durable. The minute you hit it, it falls apart. It's not a great solution long term for these pop outs. They need to be framed and done that way. I think you're introducing a maintenance nightmare with foam pop outs. So I would not be supportive of that at all. And I think again, if Scott were here, he'd reiterate that and absolutely because I think he's conditioned projects to eliminate foam stucco bump outs and things and decor developments. Really the only place where foam stucco makes sense is like a cornice all the way at the top of a building where nobody's touching it, where they can't hit it with a ladder, where they can't hit it with a vehicle. So very much not supportive of this foam stucco idea. And I think it's small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. Let's see here. Remove siding. Completely disagree. Just the ability with a lot of siding. So I would encourage your architect to find alternate materials that are available instead of wholesale getting rid of the siding. Find something else that's a comparable price. We just did a bunch of Trespa on a project and it's a little pricier, but it's available. Hardy. Hardy is not the only player in the market. There's Nietzsche Ha, there's American fiber cement, there's at least six manufacturers of fiber cement siding in the United States. And if fiber cement siding doesn't work, buy cedar siding and paint it because that's just as good. And if it's installed properly, it'll last forever if you paint it and take care of it just like you would fiber cement. So I also don't buy into that. And I think it's a small potatoes piece as well. And I completely and 100% agree, 1000% agree with Vice Chair Birch over these balconies. And I'm going to read from our design guidelines. So design guideline 3.2, which is for multifamily housing, item G, semi private open space, provide each unit with a minimum of 40 square feet of semi private open space, directly adjacent to the unit. It is not intended for the space to have privacy wall. The intent is to provide a balcony on units above the ground level and a small patio area on the ground level. Item two, these small private spaces should feature an open rail, low wall or hedge and other element that defines the space but permits the residents to have a presence on the street or open space. These semi private spaces shall not require noise protection. And then there's figure 3.2.19 that has a lovely photo of some balconies. So I would completely disagree that you don't need the balconies and that residents wouldn't appreciate them. Pretty much everybody I know that's ever lived in an apartment loved their balcony, whether it was a little tiny balcony or a Juliet balcony. You know, Juliet balconies are kind of a budget way to include a balcony with a sliding door, but still that's a very, you know, that's a that's an economical solution potentially that opens out into open space and doesn't keep you inside all the time, particularly in our area that's very amenable to being outside. So again, I really agree with the way Michael worded dignified minimum standard of appearance. And I think to that end, I don't buy this idea that siding, you can't get it, find another material, because there is one. But would I take a siding change over the balconies? No, I would take the balconies over the siding change just like Michael said. That being said, I do have a thought on maybe how you could cut some costs. It's maybe, I don't know, if the gables went away, and you got rid of the asphalt shingles and just did a flat roof. I wonder if that might save you some money, because you're not doing another roofing type, you're not bringing a, you're not doing metal edging, you're not doing gutters, you're not doing downspouts, you're doing internally drained stuff on the roof, which might work because I think you've got some kind of mansard-esque type situations with kind of an interior flat roof. So I wonder if that maybe might be a way to save some money. And I know we kind of encouraged, I think memory serves, we encouraged the gable end condition because we thought it felt a little bit more akin to the surrounding neighborhood. But again, I think I would be willing to take a flat parapet cap over losing the balconies if it was a little bit more urban in its character. If you could save money that way, I think that might be an option. Another thought, I mean you've cut some of the metal railings off in the design here, unlike the staircases for instance. So again, I think if the metal railing goes, I think that's okay. Do a wall like you have it in the proposed design as stucco, but just take the metal out of the equation, but still keep the balconies, right? So you would have a stucco balcony potentially with maybe a metal coping cap or something like that or some other durable material that the resident wouldn't tear up. So that may be a way to save some cost as well. And then I'm trying to look here. I'm wondering if it makes sense to alter window typologies. And I mean that in the sense of, like I know you're required to have an operable window in your bedrooms, but you're not necessarily required to have an operable window elsewhere. And fixed windows tend to be a little less expensive than operable windows. I know that's probably not ideal. But again, if we have a balcony where you can go outside or you can open a screen door or something like that, and it's that's right adjacent to a fixed window, I would take the balcony over the operable window if that makes sense. I think those are maybe some ways to save some costs in different ways that maybe you haven't looked at. I'm trying to think what else. I'm not seeing much else.  I mean, maybe the tree mitigation plan, you know, maybe save one tree, get rid of the other. I know the way that the dry vials laid out. One of the heritage trees is right smack tab in the middle of it. And I think, you know, I think that's probably a foregone conclusion. But the one that's a little farther, I think it's south, maybe save that. Don't have to plant as many trees, save a little bit of money. I know you have to protect the tree during just construction. So maybe it's a balancing act between the two. And that's, I think that's all I can think about.  So I think, and you have less maintenance concerns as well. Induction, in fact, is even cheaper to operate than traditional kind of electric appliances. If that's something that you guys have looked into. Induction's really kind of taken off. I know induction is more expensive, but again, it has a better payback period. I think that's that's it for my comments. So Mark and Adam, do you guys have anything additional hearing now Michael and myself? Chair Weigel. Yes. And I just ask a clarifying question because I don't know, not familiar with it. It's the phone pop outs. Are you suggesting perhaps getting rid of that pop out altogether or is there another material or go with this? I want them to leave it the way they designed it originally. And the reason I say that is if you keep the balconies, you don't need to do a phone pop out because you're framing out for a balcony. If you get rid of the balcony, you need to do the phone pop out because they no longer have anything that they need to support structurally from balcony perspective. So that's why they're proposing a phone pop out because it's just creating the relief just kind of stuck on and adhered to the building facade. So it would be kind of stuck onto the plywood on the outside as opposed to a balcony that would be framed up and relieved and all that kind of good stuff. Thank you. So anyway, Mark, do you have any other comments? No? Adam, any other comments? No, I'll set. Thank you. Michael, any more? Cool. I think we're done. And I guess what we would typically do is we would turn it back over to the applicant and see if they have any questions, comments, concerns of what we've said as a group. And then Susie, if you have any other final parting comments or questions. So we'll do that. We'll turn it back over to the applicant. Well, I think, you know, our takeaway is that, you know, the biggest one is the one that's been attacked, the dex. That's a million bucks, probably more now. Deciding is not cheap. I don't know. You say there's six different manufacturers of, they would give that horizontal look to the, you know, embedded in the hardy board or the actual sear material. It is really expensive. It is. And I don't, Scott, are you on the, I think Scott or COO is on the call. If you want to chime in and maybe raise your hand and talk about citing, it isn't being, it's not being specified right now because it's so hard to get and it's really expensive.  I'm sure you love it and it's, and we love it too, you know. We would like to do these things. We do. We absolutely do not want to make any cuts whatsoever to what we believe is a beautiful design. We're not here because we don't like it. We're here for a completely different reason. We want this project to go forward. That's the reason why we're here. Susie, anything else? Do you have what you need from us? I have what I need from you and I'll, I'm sure I'll go back and re-listen to some of your comments. I want to thank you very much for, for providing some guidance. I know this is an unusual situation, but I do not have the expertise that you folks do. So thank you. No problem. All right. With that, we will end item 8.4. Everybody cool with that? Awesome. And we do have one more item of business. So let me get to that. Before we adjourn, I have to read something. So let me get to that. We've got a new script for DRB. So there's a couple of little extra pieces of the puzzle now. Okay. Okay. As a reminder, actions taken at this meeting are final unless an appeal is filed within 10 calendar days of today's action. So that would be in reference to item 8.1 and the vote we had today. The time limit will extend to the following business day if the last day falls on a day that the city is closed. So that's new for us to be reading. Just to remind applicants and members of the public about that. And if you need any information on how to submit an appeal form, please contact the project planner on the project. So with that said, the meeting of this meeting of DRB is adjourned. Everybody have a great weekend.


Elon Musk is under trial today, yesterday and today, he testified yesterday, he's testifying today, in a trial brought against them by shareholders of Tesla who claim that a tweet he made in 2018, God, I closed the window where I had the tweet lined up for you guys so I could read you the exact tweet that Elon Musk sent, there it is, I got it. All right, so this is the tweet Elon Musk tweeted in 2018. All right, come on, open, there we go, all right. Quote, I'm considering taking Tesla private at $420 per share, funding secured. Now, at the time, Tesla stock was trading significantly below $420 per share, about 20% below. This is gonna be a 20% premium over the price. So again, I'm considering taking Tesla private at $420 per share, funding secured. Now, it turned out days later that he was not gonna take Tesla private and that the funding was not secured in the sense that he was still negotiating with the Saudis, the Saudis were gonna provide the money to buy Tesla and he was negotiating with them and it turned out that they backed off the deal to buy Tesla, help him buy Tesla at $420 per share. So the question is, did he mislead investors here? Did this cause investors to lose money? Did this tweet, tweet, remember, this was a tweet, that this tweet was, you know, caused people to buy Tesla in anticipation that the stock would go up to $420. Did this lead people to, I don't know, cover positions, change positions, did it change their behavior? And the answer to that is I think, yeah, it must have. I mean, this is real information. Remember at the time Elon Musk was both chairman of the board and the CEO of Tesla? So there's no question that a tweet like this, which provides new vital information, important information, significant information to your investment would change your behavior as an investor. But then the question is, okay, but was this, was this a, you know, just providing information to the investors and then it turned out the information didn't come true and tough or is this this constitute deception? And the deception, again, and a lot of this is gonna go down to the way the law is written, but deception I think has to do with partially with intent and partially with, did Elon Musk actually consider taking Tesla private or was he lying? And the second question was, was funding secured or at least was Elon Musk convinced that funding was secured? Now, this is a case that's already been decided by the SEC in a sense. The SEC decided that this was inappropriate communication by the CEO, it decided that this hurt investors that this was, you know, a violation of Elon Musk's fiduciary responsibility to Tesla shareholders and they have find, they have massively fine Tesla for this and they find Elon Musk. So all of that is already done. And you know, there, I think you would know my position, my position is, SEC shouldn't exist. This is not the purview of this SEC. The SEC should be looking for fraud. There's no reason to believe this is fraud. The SEC should be butting out of this. On the other hand, this lawsuit is completely appropriate. The lawsuit actually makes sense.  This is the forum in which these kinds of issues should be discussed. Now, let me just say that if any CEO out there had said this about his company and it turned out not to be true, they would have been fined by the SEC. Indeed, my guess is that Elon Musk, because of the high profile that he has, probably got off easy from the SEC. I think another CEO would have been, you know, would have just been destroyed by something like this by the SEC. All right, so, but remember this is not, okay, put that aside. Okay, so this is Tesla 2018, I think this tweet was put out in 2018. So the real issue here is a legal issue. Did Elon Musk know what did he have reasonable reason to think when he said funding secured, did he have reason to think so? Now, Musk is saying, look, I actually did intend to take Tesla private or I was considering it. He doesn't say here is a done deal. And I actually thought the funding was secured.  I had talked to another people who said they would probably back the deal. I mean, my guess here is that funding secured is inaccurate and wrong and he shouldn't have said it because the funding wasn't secured. My guess is that legally funding secured means something. You have a contract, you have a real commitment. It's clear that he didn't. I think this is why one shouldn't communicate by tweet, important issues because tweets tend to be loose. I mean, but that's what he's testifying. He testified yesterday. He said, he actually thought he was doing the right thing. He said that he made this announcement in order to let all investors know because the next day there was gonna be a story in the Financial Times that suggested this is a possibility. By the way, if he just let the Financial Times article come out the next day, he would have spared himself all this legal trouble, all these fines. Anybody with a little sensibility with regard to the SEC, anybody with a little sensibility with regard to shareholders and shareholder lawsuits, you don't make these kind of public statements. You just don't. So this is a little bit of Elon Musk being impulsive. This is a little bit of Elon Musk, not talking to lawyers before making an announcement, which any other CEO would have done. Maybe this is inevitable. If you get Elon Musk as a CEO, he's gonna do things like that. He has testified in the court case that he believed he absolutely had the funding secured. And he also said that he was definitely considering taking Tesla private, but it was not committing to doing it. My guess is that he is gonna be exonerated here, but it really is hard to tell.  Elon Musk is lying, and then he gets found guilty. So this is gonna rely on, this is not some, I mean, this is not a crazy case. This is not some witch hunt. Although again, I reject the idea that the SEC should be doing this, but this is in the court, this makes complete sense. If you're gonna be a CEO in a modern corporation and you don't wanna destroy your company because it's in a heavily regulated business, if you wanna accept government money and by implication of accepted the SEC's role in regulating you and everything else and the framework of corporate law that exists today, you better have lawyers, you better have lawyers. And if you don't, then don't be surprised by what happens. So exactly what happens, we will see. I think Elon is presenting the defense basically, I thought it was a done deal, and I had every positive intention, and I did say consider, I think the burden of proof here is fairly high that he didn't. I think that you're gonna have to get somebody saying, no, we never promised anything. I don't know if the Saudis are gonna be testifying, but it will be interesting if they do and if they do what they say. But this is one of the usually class action lawsuits like this are completely nuts and completely devout of any merit. Here there's at least some merit. You can understand why people who may be bought on that assumption or sold in that assumption if they were holding options are pissed off and feel like they were manipulated. All right, that is in the news. We will see what happens to Elon Musk. I'll fill you in once there's a verdict when there's a decision. Thank you for listening or watching the Iran book show. If you'd like to support the show, we make it as easy as possible for you to trade with me. You get value from listening, you get value from watching, show your appreciation. You can do that by going to iranbrookshow.com slash support by going to Patreon, subscribe star locals and just making a appropriate contribution on any one of those channels. Also, if you'd like to see the Iran book show grow, please consider sharing our content and of course, subscribe. Press that little bell button right down there on YouTube so that you get an announcement when we go live. 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Can you wear a blazer with jeans? Yes, you can. But there are some things you need to know in order to do it right. First thing is that the color of your jeans doesn't matter. Dark jeans, light jeans, black jeans, white jeans. They all work. What does matter is that you wear the right jacket because not every jacket works with jeans. Denim has a certain weight to it. It has a bit of texture. And jeans are just more casual in general so your jacket has to match. What this means is no jackets that have a sheen to the fabric. This is a huge mistake that guys make. Instead, choose a fabric that's hardier like flannel or tweed or one that has a texture like linen or hopsack. I'm also gonna recommend that you don't wear a tie. Kind of looks out of place in my opinion but completely your choice. And I'm just here trying to make sure you look and feel your best.


I realize it's welcome back. Today, we're gonna be reacting to stuff because apparently there's a lot I've missed Well, at least with this trailer anyway, and then we're gonna take a jump into reddit because I hate myself All right, so the first one we're looking at is the lost wild official pre alpha teaser trailer Oh my god How many words do you need to put in there all I know is that it's like it's got an allosaurus in it and it's Very reminiscent of the lost world. So I'm looking forward to it like apart from Jurassic World evolution Have we actually had like a genuine dinosaur game be released But all these kick starters and all this hubbub about like things that are kind of in beta and blah, blah, blah But this is anything actually being fully released. No, and it's really Impuriating not even the aisle a game that has been an early access. I think for how long 20 years It feels has not officially released. It's still I think in early access Just give me it. Just give me a dinosaur game that like fully releases. I would love that that would be amazing Oh, that looks like the aisle. It's got the apron stuff. I thought it was Japanese. Okay. Okay.  Excuse me this What's going on? Why does this look like a triple-a game? I'm so confused Okay, okay hiding from dinosaurs Okay, so first person looking horror kind of game Whoa, the lost wild great ape games. I gotta admit. I've never heard of great ape games It was there was there any like date there? Yeah, it's definitely Japanese interesting that they would go for that I don't know. It's everyone likes Japanese things.  I'm sorry that run like running away from a dinosaur. Let's go It just doesn't look scary Yeah, it's just so weird I'm trying to get my head around what this game could be apart from it is literally just survival horror That's what that's what this looks like if we have if we just take a quick look So we got a lovely opening shot here just showcasing its graphics the environment that we can see it Does feel very either influenced by Jurassic Park 3 with the Avery this shot anyway in the fog As well as the aisle because the aisle just has an Avery off in the distance. It does nothing, but it's there You got some dinosaurs down at the bottom though. That's interesting like we see actual game footage That's quite nice of them to say we don't have a date Which makes me feel that this is never coming out any time. Oh, it's not coming out anytime soon This looks absolutely beautiful Look at that Damn, am I all right to think that What they've done is spent a lot of time just making the game look good and really focusing on Specific shots rather than the game is I mean obviously it doesn't even happen It's a what is it a pre-alpha teaser trailer? So we're not even any sort of testing at all. We got a little advertisement by Datsu. They're very nice. They're Japanese Japanese girls So obviously it's taking place in Japan is your Japanese scientific Facility a temporal containment site. Okay. Okay. I like it.  I think We sort of jump around on the log. So we've got small dinosaurs and then I Think this is oh, that's right. That's when we see the first shot of the Alasor Interesting, I mean the game looks flawless.  I like the the glows of the eyes on that's quite nice I like reminds me of a Jurassic Park the game with the trodons Some sort of hiding mechanic this bit to those Obviously you got like a sneaking mechanic a running and a slide mechanic interesting Um, yeah, it feels like it's a very linear game.  Look, I'm lovely good Testings looking lovely flare gun. What is this primal carnage? And then some sort of so it's obviously some facility Where I don't know it kind of now feels a bit like dino crisis in a way and not aesthetically But just that you know this facility that was working on energy and ended up making a portal into the past I'm really trying to think like what could have happened here like I mean when it comes to this sort of Um Story they could be working on, you know a cure for cancer or or anything like that and and they were working on gene Manipulation they were cloning things. They they were working on clean energy. It could be anything the mystery Is a bit like how the aisle had it? The aisle had a storyline like this and I don't know if they're still going with it. There was some sort of facility But it honestly feels like a lot of dinosaur games these days are just What was the one we had not too long ago with the human dinosaur hybrid thing?  There's no way to protect yourself And and for some odd reason does he have any ammo in his flare gun? He does and he doesn't decide to fire it at the aloe, which is interesting also I would hazard a guess by the the nails then Slender fingers even though I have slender fingers So I'd assume we plays a female character. That's I think it's not the first time we actually see her hands I think so. Yeah, we must play as a as a female character interesting. Oh, it's trespasser. It's trespasser. That's what this is It's all a debate.  Ah, there's me help Well, I have to get Whitney involved whenever you play now. This is interesting Why does that deer when an alice or run so it actually does jump away and then try to go back into it Oh, and then it goes this way and it gets caught interesting the animations look good The the sort of dynamic lighting and stuff like this that looks really good The animations look great and then they're definitely not just animations that are You know, it's like the walk cycle and it's just that gonna repeat We saw that a lot with messa zoa care and other indie games, which it's very obvious The what they've done is they've worked on a walk cycle and they just have a go through a piece Priya star kingdom have done this before with our trailers. I think it's like a nosy dessert. I was just walking It's not interacting dynamically with anything Then again, if we do go back to the deer I think it's back here. Isn't it? Yes. This alice or this isn't necessarily Dynamic, it's just animated for this one scene, but it's animated. Well Um Which again, it's something that it's I'm just not used to now I'm so not used to this, you know after a drastic world evolution and you see, you know Everything's just it's an animation that plays and tweens into this and that but I'd you know What happened to the dinosaur games used to get like the hunter primal and oh no We're not hunter primal the one for the ps3 that one that was terrible, but at least it was a finished game I suppose but that looks really good all these animations And it doesn't necessarily Seem stage. It's like they're just going through and exploring this definitely does this gameplay segment here Whoa, okay, so we got hips a lot for don awesome sort of taco thing we've got feather raptors We've got an allosaurus And then we've got this other dinosaur because as they run up to it This bit here you see the reticle fills up with yellow and they're spotted now what they could be Juvie dinosaurs like Juvie allosaurs or they just a smaller carnival like a horaris or something now It does appear to be some sort of hadrosaur it looks like it's got four legs And then you got an allosaur Okay, these look like Juvie allosaurus here. We've got a perfect shot So you got the adult allosaurus head which actually seems to be just what this allosaur like a smaller version here And they're running away So actually maybe this mystery small bipedal carnival is just a baby allosaur could very well be does appear to have the I don't know what you would call it just the protrusion above the eyes that the adult allosaur has Yeah, so I would assume that this is the either the mother or it's just another adult allosaur the way They react it could be a nest. I don't know the parental instincts if they would keep them till you know And you know, this is being scientifically accurate But maybe it's a family and you know, they're sharing a meal and you sort of just sort of watching you try and stealth around While this interaction happens again more of the allosaurus allosaur patrolling out in the open you can see that you're very clearly visible here And they do fire actually Flared it I didn't mention why didn't you fire it but we don't see what happens when that happens, but it does draw attention And I assume that's what happens, you know in the allosaur season you get turned into dino din-dins But yeah, wow actually that that looked really good. I'm very impressed with that I don't know what I was expecting. I've seen a lot like of Other terrible dinosaur games. What was it? It looked very similar. It was like a tribal guy Running away from a t-rex and it was very in unity looking, but this genuinely Looks very impressive. I Love it. I love the idea of X. Oh demorphid on of course with demorphid on's there are some sort of small Skappergonathis, you know sort of a flying pterosaur No, it seemed no looks of copies, but this is pre-alpha man. This looks very good I need to look into ape games or whatever they are gorilla games to see what they've actually made because this looks very Very professional. I mean obviously what it's something that gives a very temperate forest look and apart from you know Going to Costa Rica or something, you know something very similar and link to Jurassic Park a Japanese forest Why not? I guess it could be anywhere, but I'd like to know why they decided to go with Japan Just maybe it plays into the plot at all obviously where this is a dinosaur horror Survival mystery game. We're trying to find out what happened to this facility why there's dinosaurs running about all of a sudden Yeah, and this is what we see right when it comes to dinosaur games as a new Jurassic movie comes closer to release we see a lot of dinosaur games come out that try to just capitalize on the hype and I mean we've been through two now Jurassic World and Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom and each time there's been Dinosaur games that have popped up to try and just you know get money like quick cash grab and stuff like that For instance when it was 2015 if I just put it up for a second Mesozoica put up a Alpha demo and they were really pushing to get Mesozoica released for 2015. It ended up being three years later It's very obvious why they released in 2018 if they did because of Fallen Kingdom and prehistoric Kingdom Was also releasing around about that time. They're trying to you know, they were pushing very heavily for 2015 and that game Fortunately didn't fall into the trap that Mesozoica did which is just let's just try and go on the hype of Of the Jurassic franchise, but no prehistoric Kingdom seems to have taken their time They saw Planet Zoo come out and went hold on we can do this But with dinosaurs Which might be why they delayed so long because they saw Planet Zoo and they're like oh, this is good Actually, let's take this concept instead of going for you know, just trying to shove it out for as quickly as possible Now that looks like the Adolf the same size As the you know the other Alasaur we've seen it's too it's too big to be one of the Juvies Especially hunting a deer, but again, and I like it's kind of I don't know poetic in a way to say like you know You've got modern Animals being killed by the prehistoric extinct ones. It's oh, it's what's going on here It says a little bit about the world and that now the new world is dying to the old being taken over sort of thing But yeah, I am really Really looking forward to I'm just looking this and I love it. I love it's yeah great ape Sorry, I didn't call you gorilla or eight games great eight games I will definitely look out for you if this looks so so freaking good I cannot wait like I said it feels like a combination of maybe the aesthetic of the aisle and This you know dino crisis mystery and on top of that collision courses gorgeous like cryo engine graphics or whatever it is Looks really really good. Well, anyway, I just wanted to make a quick video on this because I didn't expect it to be that good actually and it is I mean we've seen stuff in the past like death ground the Traders for death ground does not look as good as this this is freaking polished Beautiful, but if you're hyped for this to leave a like and until next time. I'll see you kitties later. Oh, bye


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