everyone Shaber 1000 here today we're at homa sasa springs we're at a wildlife park right behind me right over there they're gonna be feeding the manatees here in a little bit so we're gonna go check that out I'm gonna film some that for you but in the meantime we're going to just go ahead and walk around and wait so hopefully you enjoyed this video just kind of an afternoon outing on a Saturday next Saturday is going to be fun so stick around for that so here we go he's 59 years old I think 57 he originally came from California okay so this hippopotamus is an honorary citizen of Florida his name is Lou the hippopotamus hippos live 40 to 50 years in the wild captive hippos can live to the age of 60 years or more you guys can pause this if you want to read it and that's kind of small but cool but there he is that's Lou this says that he to maintain his size and weight Lou consumes 15 pounds of alfalfa four scoops of herbivore diet food and five gallon buckets of fruit and vegetables every day each January all his birthdays in January says my birthday each January on his birthday Lou receives a special birthday cake local school children attend his party cool he was born at the San Diego Zoo in 1960 he's been a resident he's been here since 1964 and his youth Lou was part of Ivan tours and more actors and starred on television and in movies so he's a famous hippo okay guys can you see him of the American alligator here there's another one over there long on that bank right there but we see him a lot bigger than this on our river pretty cool all right let's go check the other one out and here's the other Gator that we seen from over there the first one we looked at there he is and we got this guy right here he's telling in the water I want to wrestle one of them but they won't let me there's Lou back over more animals I just seen a deer run across get monkey and see she wants to go check these animals out so there's Lou let's go check out some more stuff he moved here in 64 they make our way to the man they do the feeding all kinds of little birds in here big birds there's some there this is cute it's like a little zoo in a state park if you look right down there there's a manatee so pretty cool we'll bring it up closer that big that tail is beautiful shot there in January is usually when they get really cool then you know probably this will be full very graceful what they call them sea potatoes right was called like somebody called them potatoes I did my intro right over there cool beautiful down here and some deep water some little springs running out there he's probably 36 37 inches long at least there's another fish right below him see it's scary I got only a bunch of them some are there he is yeah he's here here there's one they're being lazy today Saturday afternoon right there there he is foxes mama yeah there's two of them in here there's the foxes the wolves weren't out so get a look at any of them one of them is swiper the fox back there cool not sure which one is which but one of them is called swiper the fox yeah yeah so we're gonna find we're gonna try to find the cats and the bears do you know there are more fake flamingos in Florida than there are real flamingos yeah yep for real where they originally come from I don't know but I do know there's more fake than fake flamingos than there are real flamingos in Florida a little tiger shot for you here that one you're in can take cool this one where's he at this one he's sleeping buzzards over here really cool place but there's the family of flamingos say he's standing on these one foot oh family so I just happen to see monkey pointing your camera up in the tree there a bunch of buzzards up there death birds okay so we're coming up to the owl owls we got the barn owl we got the barred owls and see these are the barn owls now this owl how old here is like the one we seen in the backyard remember I was filming they have injures those ones over there these are barred owls I got you in my backyard this one's the one we had in the backyard yes a barred owl cool it was about that close to him or I was in here we've got some whooping cranes right there the whooping whooping cranes and it's how they kind of rust cool check this guy out we got him hamming it up for the camera I am not zoomed in see zoomed in that's a lot of way out about four feet from him let me see if I can tell you what's wrong with this eagle in the 1960s the bald eagle population decreased automatically due to harmful chemical DDT but we see them flying through our house a lot unfortunately each of our eagles had they've had wing injuries that required amputation so their wing wings have been hurt and amputated that's why they cannot fly out of here it's beautiful I've seen one of these over at a golf course one time fly down there's a pond there fly down and get him a fish it was so majestic and so beautiful when it did that and over here we have the red-tailed hawk and they can't fly away because like I said they've been they've been wounded this thing this guy here he's he don't live here he just comes in but now that's the red-tailed hawk we have them in Ohio they're beautiful too okay guys here we go we have a bear back there walking around I did see one out in the wild one time it was it was better than that one though but not by much but still he was like 20 feet away from me but so that's cool looks like that a painting on the building anyway there's the bears are supposed to have them mountain lions here a type of mountain lion that are very rare they're endangered here in Florida so we're gonna find them but there's one of the bears a shea bear and my daughter bear Shona bear cool monkey will be glad to see this one I think he's want now maybe he's hungry kind of hard to focus it's trying to focus on the look at baby so monkey just seen a kitty cat as she called it there it is right over there to get a better look at him put that bucket here to They are very rare, they are down here, but they're very, very rare. Now you want to pet the kitty? That one's facing too, so the other one's in. You brought me all the way back here, now I'm feeding the kitty. It's not laying. And it's not real, but then you have that one there. Oh, there's a canter. Cool. No, you've got two of them. And again, there's the one back there in the cage, looking around. Isn't this cute? I guess that's a donation thing. Yeah. It's right over there, we're heading over this direction for the bobcats. So we'll go check them out. We have bobcats in Ohio, and I lived in a little village called Buffalo, which is not far from Seneca Lake, Ohio. But there was a bobcat attacking my dog. A dog named Peaty. And there was a bobcat about that size, who was attacking my dog. So I had to shoot the bobcat. I didn't want to, because I don't shoot anything I don't eat.   So there's the bobcats. There's a good side view of them there. Monkey called them the babies. Florida bobcat. There you are. Fun fact. In high school, our mascot was a bobcat. So we were the Cambridge bobcats. And he tells a little bit about them. I don't know if you guys can see that. So I am actually a bobcat. There's one, he's just sitting there looking. Can you see him? Let's see if I can zoom in here. I'll try to show it. See, it's trying to focus on the fence. But there he is sitting there looking around. I wanted the mountain lion thing to do the scream that they do. And this is just a place where birds and flamingos and stuff can go and hang out in this area here. I wanted to see the reptiles. They were playing. They went that way and the other one couldn't find them. And then he ran and chased them. I was telling them you called these the babies. Yeah, these the babies. But I'm a bobcat. Yeah, fun fact. Well, you're tiny. My high school, we were the Cambridge bobcats. Ah, where'd the other one go? He's hiding behind that box, I think. It's not ottering here somewhere. Have you seen? I found kind of, but I didn't get him on film. You hear that electric fence? Yeah, well, they mean business. Not sure where he is. But this is a cool fence. But the otters are supposed to be in here. He must be able to lay back here. This separates the otters. Oh, is this closed, huh? Yeah, the otters can't get through here. Oh, okay. Well, something maybe we could see an otter. I was hoping he'd get up there on that platform. But I'm not sure where the otter is. But I thought this was a cool bridge. Oh, I don't know. But, oh well. We missed the otters. Let's go. See what's, I'm not sure what's over there. The deer walk. We saw the deer earlier, but we can't. They got that closed off. So, see what's in here. Oh, we got the tortoises. There's a tortoise right there. Cool. And an owl. And, right down here, is the tortoise. I can get in through the fence. He's a pretty big size tortoise. He goes in that hole down there. But, yeah, there's one of them. Oh, he's looking at us. There he is. It's pretty cool. I'm supposed to have reptiles here, so I don't know. I'd like to see the reptiles. But he won't fly out. Well, the owl. I know the tortoise won't. He definitely won't, but they got that up there to keep the owl in. He's a burrowing owl. And that is the gopher turtle. Must have just fed him. That's his food over there. So, that's pretty cool. Oh no. The reptile exhibit is closed. Maybe they'll have one here. Yeah, there's one. There's a snake. See? Too bad I gotta do this third glass. I'm sorry. I don't know if there's anything on this other side. Monkey won't want to see this. Cute little house. But I don't see the snake in this one. Yeah, I do. There he is. Right there. There's the snake. They are because... Wait, there it is. The gulf hammock rat snake. I've seen these in the backyard. Let's see what the other one has. The other one is a Florida pine snake. Now, I have not seen one of these in a while yet, but at least I know what it is now. So... Maybe that'll help. Oh, there you go. That's how we got to see two snakes. I didn't bring any cash. Maybe monkey. If I can find her. There she is over there on the bridge, looking for the otters. That's what that little red ball over there is for. Oh, and we have a... a bird. Something there. That little ball is for the otters to play with. I think she's looking for the otters. She's over there on the bridge. What's around here? Restricted area. Well, that's okay. We got to see some animals today. There's monkey. Walking over there. What? The otters? No, did you? Did you? He came up? Was he? So I did talk to him again. It's a soda pop. He said, oh, soda machine. He talked about all the snakes and stuff in there. No, I can skip this one. I don't really like snakes to do that anyway. Yeah, but maybe your viewers do. Yeah, but it's a shame. Let's get one of these. I hope you guys can see how big he is. Getting clear back up in that corner. Yeah, look at that. I don't know if you guys can see him. There he is right there. Goes all the way to the corner. And he goes all the way behind this little tree thing. You can see him there. And he still and he's curled up over here. Yep. So he's friggin long. He's probably about 5 feet. He's pretty long. I've not seen one of these yet. This is called a full Florida pine snake. Where's his head? I just noticed his head right back here. Oh, there it is. There's his head. Yep. Wow. He hears us. He's like, yeah, go away leave me alone. Really cool. It is cool that from a distance. Beautiful. I don't find it beautiful. This is a different one. That's another one down there. Oh, is there two in there? Yeah, because the other one see the difference in the colors. Oh, you sure? The other one, there's more white. This one's got more black on it. Snake. So there's two in here. It's friendly. He just wants a hug. There's another one over there. Oh, he's out. He was behind me. I was more into the soda. I didn't know. He's trying to say hi. I'm so glad he's in there. They did that picture with the boa pair of shorts on it. Yeah, I was scared to death. I don't know, man. Looks female, doesn't it? I don't know. I can eat that by his face. You got to check back here at the cloaca. Which is right in there. See, this is not his tail. His tail is actually from right about here. And the cloaca is right in this area. That's how you tell a male from a female. You come to see us? Touch him. Touch that. You can feel them. Touch the glass. Touch the glass. I'm dreaming about it. And I will never slip again. No. You can't feel them through glass. I have soda. You want a soda? Come on, touch the glass. Please, for the camera. Really? Do it for YouTube. Touch the glass. Just touch the glass. You can't feel it. Good job. Did you feel him? No. I didn't do it with his hand. It's not nice. Come on. There's that one. There's the other one back there. You can't use cash at the start of the show. Okay, guys. Here's a wild animal. It's not part of the show, but we joined in. We've got a squirrel. There he is. Pretty cool. There he is. There's the other one. He's cute. We've got some wild ducks out there. Manatee over there. There's one over here. Manatee. And right over the end. There's another one. That's the Manatee. Just over there. Yeah. There's another one over here. See him? There's two in there. This is the home of Sassar River. We need to bring our boat out here. Are you trying to find me? No, not this one. No, we're going to be on that real weird name on one. Oh. Look at how shallow it is. Oh, there's a baby. Hi, baby. They got these you can look out, but we got some great zooms on our cameras. Oh, honey. They're huge. Save the Manatees. Loving things. Big old sea cows. Awesome. We're going to continue on this way. But again, like I said, there's home of Sassar River. We'll have our boat on here. Sooner or later. Okay, guys. So in this pin here, we've got some freshwater turtles. There's one of these head up out right there. There's one. Right over there's one. That's snapping turtles, are they? Yeah, this one here. This thing right there. Look, right down here. That's a... I think it's a letter back. I think they think we've got stuff. Yeah, that's what it is. I think they think we're going to feed them. Look at them. They've got all their heads up. That's funny. You're that funny guy. He's as you are. You're funny guys. Yeah, he's a pretty good son in there. They're pushing each other. What kind of camouflage was with the rocks? I'll back up to see you and get them. Here's some. I wasn't going to take them because Shaber has it on his. And we saw these two and they were sitting just right there. Here comes another one. He's sitting there. They think we're going to feed them and they all came up. Good call. They're probably used to getting bread and stuff all day. Yeah, this whole pond. This is supposed to be freshwater turtles? Yes, these are all freshwater turtles. You're smoking. I bet it's supposed to be a fountain. Yeah. But it looks like you're smoking. They told Shaber he couldn't smoke in here. And the man is he's smoking. You believe it. This place is nice. I wish you got more for your money. But like Monkey said, at least they're taking care of the animals. So we came over that bridge there. I don't even know if I'm going to see it. The bridge there. And we made a big loop around this building. So this is the Garden of the Springs Discovery Center. Of course, it's closed. But that's okay. Like I said, at least they're feeding you know. They're feeding the animals. Cool. So there you go. This is the Homassass of Springs Wildlife Park. If it comes up, it'd be a lot better when everything gets opened back up again. But there's donation boxes around. You can put your money in and help feed the animals. Like the eagles and those kind of birds. They're wounded. They'll never be able to be out in a while again. So that helps them out. Take care of them. So anyway, we're going to get out of here. It's been a wonderful afternoon. I like it here. We'll definitely be back again. So anyway guys, if you're on the Homassass area, be sure to drop in and check this place out. Pretty awesome. So we'll see you guys soon. Shea Berry, Mythman, and Legend. We're out for now. Monkey's going to do her out to her out front. We're going to get through the gift shop and out to the truck. And we're going to be gone with it. We'll see you guys soon. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. Bye bye and take care.


The best tip that I can give to you incoming scholars is for you to manage your finances well by cooking your own food because by doing that you'll be able to save money for other expenses like travel and leisure. Get familiarized yourself with Google Maps. It will be difficult at the beginning because you'll keep getting lost but then you'll be fine. I found a friend who lived here and I lived with her and he helped me to adjust.  If you don't know how to manage it, maybe you can ask someone to help with it. Pace yourself according to your personality. Some people adjust faster than others and you don't need to force yourself to adjust. Just go with the flow. Just remember that Australia would provide us a lot of support. It's not just about the study but it also provides us a network of people which can give us comfort when we need it. Let it go and then let it flow and never afraid to make mistakes and slowly you will adapt.


Faced with the lack of options for safe and legal mobility, thousands of Ethiopians leave the country every year using irregular channels to reach Northern Africa, Europe, the Gulf States, and Southern Africa by crossing land and sea. Because they are trying to avoid detection and are often in the hands of smugglers, these journeys can be really risky, with the absolute worst evidence being the thousands of Ethiopian migrants who are believed to have died or have gone missing along the way, whether due to violence, vehicle accidents, shipwrecks, or a lack of access to medicines, sheltering food. People are aware about the risks. Families are aware. Sometimes migrants never tell families they are migrating. There are young groups from a village that just team up and they just leave the village. They are aware of the risks, but they hope that they can make it. So staying risky for the young people because of economic, political, and social reasons, going is also risky. But at least there is hope to get something. At least 50% of the migrants make it and they come back as diasporas. So they send families, you know, remittances. So people are aware of the risks, but without the choice of either legal migration channels or to stay in the home while there are a lot of attractive situations from the receiving side. So there is a success story there. So there is high probability of young people taking risks. The majority of the regular migrants are male. They are in the early 20s. And most of them come from the ruler and semi-arban sightingers and they have low education status. But when families don't hear from their loved ones, they are left to desperately search for information about whether they are okay and to find out what happened to them. In this episode, we talked to Mengistu Tedese, national program officer at IOM's country office in Ethiopia, about the context of how and why Ethiopians migrate from the country and how the government is now considering addressing the topic of missing migrants. I am working in IOM Ethiopia Migration Management Unit as a national capacity building officer. And my main area of engagement is to lies with the government of Ethiopia coordination mechanism, which we call it the National Partnership Collision on Migration. This collision is responsible to oversee the overall migration issues in the country. And we are working with them at national and regional levels. Then we speak with Dr. Tekaline Mangiste, chairperson of the Department of Anthropology at Addis Ababa University and affiliated researcher at the Department of Social Anthropology at Stockholm University. Dr. Mangiste was the lead researcher in Ethiopia on IOM's recent study with families of missing migrants. He interviewed families who have missing relatives to learn what they are doing to search for them and the barriers they face in doing so. He spoke with people who work for the government and other organizations to map the current policy and legal avenues that families with missing migrant relatives in Ethiopia have. My name is Tekaline Ayaleo. I get into this topic because for the last 11 years I have been researching and publishing on migration issues generally and also human smuggling and human trafficking. We have interviewed 21 people between the ages of 25 and 66 were interviewed. We have also, from this, there is a participatory where men, their fathers, brothers of missing migrants and nine were women, mothers and sisters. We have also conducted 10 interviews at Addis Ababa and 11 in rural areas. So we have conducted research in both urban and rural areas. And also we have conducted, they all had fathers, mothers or brothers, husbands who were missing. Contacting them, negotiating with them, discussing with them. So gradually I built rapport and relations with the families. Then gradually I found out some families were willing to really share their experiences. So I followed all these anthropological, demographic approaches which are useful to access these kind of research participants which are vulnerable. And what are the motivations of these mostly young men and women who left their families and take risky migration routes to other countries? There are different factors mentioned as the drivers of migration in Ethiopia. I think I can categorize as some structural, individual and criminal aspects. So the structural factors include poverty, unemployment, especially visible in urban centers, villages, and there is also under-employment. There is a limited opportunity for regular pathways. There is a huge demand in Ethiopia, but availability for overseas employment is very few. Ethiopia currently has bilateral labor agreement with four destination countries. And because of COVID, I think the movement is not facilitated. So there is a limited or low regular options for those who opt for regular migration. 86% of regular migrants are females. So the regular migration channels are mainly open for female domestic workers. So there is few or no regular pathways for male migrants. So the males usually opt for regular channels. We know that conflict is another driver. Since November 2020, there has been an ongoing civil war in the region of Tigray that has displaced tens of thousands of people from their homes. I'm really worried about my daughter. I can't stop thinking about her and I don't know what I'm going to do. My hopes and dreams left with her. Sometimes I talk to myself just like a mad woman. I have long waited to see her face, but my wishes remain a daydream. Every day I pray hoping to get her back alive. Whenever someone knocks at the door, I run hoping that she'll be my daughter who has come back. I know she's not dead because I see her in my dreams. My heart always tells me she's alive. This is the testimony of an Ethiopian mother. For her privacy, we're using the voice of an actor and keeping her name anonymous. So how many people in Ethiopia are waiting to hear from their loved ones who left on migration journeys? There is no institution which is keeping record of how many families are missing their loved ones. So we don't have a system. On the other hand, most of migrants who are missing are irregular migrants who are using non-legal channels. It's very difficult to have comprehensive statistics on this. But generally, from the stories, from my exposure, from my experience, I can understand that many families, at least, for example, one among four or five migrants who live in their home areas, normally they do not make their journey to all the way. Or they miss along the way, or they die. So thousands, actually, of families, migrants, you know, get lost or miss along the migration, along the series. You can't, I live with the stories. I never forget it. Many families have, you know, suffered, economical, psychosocial, and also searching challenges. So there are a lot of stories that I put in the report. For example, I can mention one which is still going on with me. I can't work in a farm because I see the face of my boy again and again. I can't even fulfill the basic needs of my family. I don't sleep at night. His voice and image come to my mind every minute. His mother had a heart attack after she heard of his disappearance. Often left without concrete answers about what happened to their loved ones. Families face socioeconomic hardships and struggle with administrative and legal obstacles. There are a lot of psychological, financial and legal challenges families of missing migrants or those families having a missing loved ones experience. For example, through the interviews, we learned not only about the grief, but also the social, legal and economic hardships, you know, and the impact that having a missing family member has had over people, you know. So most families interviewed indicated that they had been unable to establish whether the missing loved ones were dead or alive, leading them to, you know, experience of ambiguous loss, which occurs when there is no clear closure or sufficient reason behind what happened. So this is really, really painful. On the other hand, families also indicated that they experienced a vast range of physical, psychological and behavioral issues ranging from anxiety, depression, hopelessness, stress, sadness and the loneliness. It was also apparent how within the same family, women and men are impacted by having a missing migrant relative in different ways. The challenges are so complex and diverse for women. For example, interviews indicated that the decision of when to start or stop searching for information about the missing relative often tends to be made by male relatives, fathers or older sons. So women, the widows or daughters of missing migrants, reported often having two challenges, you know, the decision is made by their fathers or brothers in law concerning the search. The control of any property or their ability to remarry or factors impacting the short and the long-term financial stability of women. I can't talk about property or inherit the land before I get proof of the death of my husband. According to the tradition, his brothers control the land. I can't go to the courts and get into a fight with his relatives. If they farm the land and give some food to my children, that is fine. I can't go against tradition and quarrel over inheritance. Land disputes are a serious problem in this village.  I live with his relatives. I depend on them. Everything is difficult for me. Women were disproportionately affected financially by missing migrants because most missing Ethiopian migrants are men. Migrants often acquire significant debt in order to cover the cost of their journeys. And even in the event of someone's death or disappearance, debt is not cancelled and many times the responsibility to cover financial obligations falls on the migrants. So migrants' wives. Given the fact that women are often prevented from assuming control over property or other inherited goods, the debt imposes long-term obligations that limit women's ability to care for themselves, their children, possibly other relatives. So it's like a double challenge for women. They lose bread owners, loved ones, and then the cultural exclusions or other gender inequalities also aggravate the impact and the vulnerability of women more than men. So how do families cope with this situation? For example, to find out information about their missing sons, daughters, and other family members, the people who interviewed mostly developed their own networks and support structures to search actually. For example, in both rural and urban settings where we spoke to families of missing migrants, families were not silent or passive victims. Of course, they tried different strategies within their means to find information. For example, in urban areas in Addis Ababa, we noticed that there was more no reliance on the news of social media. So some would watch the news looking for any information related to where they thought their missing family members was or about their route or, for example, about no shipwrecks or in Mediterranean or any accident in Italy. So they are very active, urban families are very active on the media and on the social media. People in the city were also more active on social media groups, so posting and searching for information. For example, the social media groups were often for the Ethiopian diaspora. So they could spread out the news. So this is for the urban families. Those in Addis Ababa also responded, reported that they tried to approach authorities more about their cases, although this didn't usually go very well. Even though they are active, urban families are active and approach the state, this never, not always work well. For example, the families who had approached authorities about their missing relatives generally reported quite negative experiences, in fact. They were often blamed for, you know, families were blamed for letting their relatives migrate with the help of smugglers, which in some cases, you know, retromatized families. In other words, if you're a person in Ethiopia looking for information about a relative who left on a migration journey and who is missing, you are left on your own to search through informal sources. Particularly on the well-established southern route from Ethiopia to South Africa, families often contact smugglers to seek information. We don't know which institution is responsible to offer information related to missing migrants. I don't know where to go or whom to ask in the government. Secondly, it is impossible to go to the country where my son went missing because I can't afford that. What I can do is to get news from the smuggler who facilitated his journey. Though I am very disappointed in the smugglers, I have never thought to accuse them also because most of them are my relatives. Also, I am scared to go to the government office because I have heard of families who sent their children through illegal ways and who were arrested and thrown into jail. More rural settings where we also interviewed families searching for information was more word of mouth. Families reported relying mainly on information shared by people who had travelled with their missing loved ones, other migrants or guides or smugglers, or even border guards. They used these strategies, the rural families. So, despite the stigma that surrounds their activities, smugglers, locally known as Darlala or Darlaloch, were often recognized for their willingness and ability to access contacts and information that could establish or inform the whereabouts of missing persons for the rural families in Hadya. So, interviews indicated how smugglers often had information concerning the vehicular accident and as they could contact border guards for information concerning any migrants being detained or imprisoned while transitioning countries such as in Tanzania, in Malawi, in Mozambique. While the relationship between families and smugglers, of course, must not be romanticized, but interviews revealed that many families were more likely to trust smugglers over authorities when it comes to solutions or information about their missing or loved ones. So far, there has been little government attention and action on the issues faced by families of missing migrants in Ethiopia. However, this could be changing. In September last year, IOM's recent research on families was presented to the members of the National Partnership Coalition of Migration, an interagency government body in Ethiopia. It's not taken as a priority for the national government, but after the research and after the presentation of the research to members of the National Partnership Coalition on Migration, the things are improving and one of the key steps was integrating the missing migrants component or element into the CSA, Central Statistics Authority, Labor and Migration Survey. So now things are improving, so that still needs advocacy. While the government is starting to take notice of this issue, there's still much to be done. It is first important to acknowledge the challenges faced by families with missing migrant relatives and to recognize the impacts on the country and the community of these missing migrant cases. What did the families who participated in this research say? What did they recommend would help? One, it is important, the most important thing is to say that any agreement, any engagement with the family members of missing migrants will require specific approaches based on their different needs, which are connected to a wide range of intersecting factors such as gender, age, disability, social community status, ethnicity and others. The second is the main recommendation is that any agency or institution should be designated with a mandate to coordinate and facilitate cooperation between the various governments, institutions and civil society actors at the regional, national and local levels involved in the process of searching for or identifying and repatriating missing and deceased migrants. So institutions should act as a single point of contact for families searching for their missing migrants. Families should be able to also report the disappearance of their relatives through simple and accessible procedures which they trust to be safe and confidential regardless of the legality or irregularity of their journeys which they went missing. Another issue families were mentioning was this institution or government institution which is responsible for supporting families should actively and effectively involve and collaborate with community-based and grassroots societies and groups that support families of missing migrants. Authorities in Ethiopia should start approaching the issue of missing migrants from a humanitarian perspective. As having a missing loved one, no matter the contact is a humanitarian tragedy. So the authorities should stop blaming the families. For most it should be a humanitarian concern for the families. Living without them, stories of families left behind is a podcast series produced by IOM's Data Analysis Center in Berlin. Thank you for listening.


You good you ready? Yeah. All right, cool. All right, so what's going on everyone? We are back with another episode of the after hours podcast today. We have a super special guest This guest is important and really special to me because I've spent so much time talking to him way too much time Especially in the beginning So I just know his story is incredible and it's awesome So, you know, just the same as usual Harry and I have like a mission to do these podcasts and Not necessarily just talk about trading even though it always ends up there But we love talking about the emotional roller coaster that is not only life, but navigating the markets and all that So, you know, without further ado, we kind of get started And I guess it's like the same way to start every single time as I guess Tom, you know What was your life like before trading like take us into life before you do anything about the markets Where were you? What were you doing and kind of take it take it from there? All right, so guys Yeah, you know long story, right? so I basically grew up in Europe and I went to LA for college For like I went to see some how state Northridge So I spent like, you know, five years there You know, just basically the study right and then I Try to kind of stay in in the states and So I kind of apply all the jobs there, you know in LA But at the end, you know, I couldn't get a green card, right?  So I got a job at the, you know, this is like a firm of financing kind of firm Yep. Yeah, what year is this for concepts? What year is this? I Think it was like 2012 2012 2013 So, you know, I apply for a job there and I got, you know, like basically kind of office kind of job So what we're doing back then is we have to cold cold people, right?    Yeah, so I Went like, you know, I just came across a website. I won't, you know, mention that website here But I think a lot of us kind of, you know, got hooked to him in the beginning, you know His first name start with the teeth, right? so and You know, and That's when, you know, I started to know about trading Yeah, were you married at this point? You were because your son wasn't born, but were you married at this point? I was, you know, with my wife at that time We just like, you know, dating and and and and all that, but after that we got married So, you know, long, long, long story short.  And, you know, at that point, I'm always desperate, you know, to make money To have some sort of money, right?  So I put that all in And I think within like one or two months I blew it So I went back to my job and then I sold some new materials coming in, okay So maybe this time is the right one, right?   I'm telling you, but what else do I have left, right? I mean, I have to pay bills. I have to survive in a way. Yeah, if I couldn't get a job I have to go to McDonald's maybe, you know, yeah, right. That's it. Yeah, that's the end of story. I mean Either way you have to survive somehow, right? Yeah, you have to find something that you can, you know, make money Like, you know month like our money, you know, and you can basically pay your bills and I mean The hardest part I think for me that that point was like all the money, right? I've been saving for that I think for like one for the last like a year on that year because I was out of college I didn't have much money anyway, right?  But I see the you know, the real potential in this job Right. Yeah. So Let me I think let me break it to this way. So I'm a immigrant, right? You know, we went to to Europe. So I try to stay in in the state. You know, I couldn't have to go back.  Right.  With the same degree of college, they're going to choose him. Like, no, like it just you have to be something or you have to have something different from that guy or that girl, right? So what made you live there? Was it just opportunity? Because being there is better opportunity than where you were? My mom and dad, they like, I think it's the same story as Bao. Yeah. Oh, because of that Vietnam war and we have to kind of hear. So he went to Germany and all France and all that. And then he moved back to Prague. But, you know, for a story short, for you to be able to become successful, right? Or to have any like, you know, higher position in Europe, it's really hard. You have to be really good. You have to be absolutely. You have to be even better than white people, right? Yeah. I'm not being racist, but, you know, that's, that's, you know, cold blooded truth. That's all there is. I mean, if I have the same college degree as him, they're going to hire him, right? No matter what, I have to have something special.   Right? Yeah. I can do whatever I want in trading. I can trade with a million dollar account.  Right? I can kind of million, you know, by just sitting here. I don't have to interact with anyone. I don't have like, I don't need the, you know, a Harvard degree. Right? I don't need any connections, you know, and all that, you know, that's how you can succeed in life, right? Yeah. But as an immigrant, it's really hard to have that, unless you're looking for a rich family or whatever. Yeah.  And for me, that's impossible. So how can I be able to make a lot of money? Right? Yeah. Either winning a lottery or do something like gambling, right? Yeah. That's got me hooked. The idea itself, it got me hooked the most. Yeah. And I agree, because like, I mean, if you if you even look around in today's society, like, I mean, you can either like start a business similar to James, go into real estate, trade, and like, that's really about it. I mean, there's like some online business dropshipping that it kind of falls in that category. But like, this is one of the only things where like, you really just need your mind and you need some work ethic and you need to be able to kind of study.  Exactly. And, you know, that's why like kind of in today's society, like a lot of people say, like even I say it myself, like, I don't know if the market's going to be around in 10 or 20 years or, you know, wherever, like it's just a means to an end.  But at the end of the day, I'm taking my money from point A to point B.  And that's exactly the job. And that's exactly because, you know, if the market's going to be around today, tomorrow, the next day, but we're just going to show up every single morning and just bank, you know. And that's that's exactly kind of my mindset towards it. I think people forget for people forget to like trading. It's like it's like it's the only job where you can create as much wealth as you want, and you can also lose everything you have. So it's like it's it's it's such a emotional job to have every day until you can kind of I don't think you ever master your emotions.  So like, so Tom, like when you were at that stage, like given everything, like, did you have pressure on yourself? Like, did your family have like, not to be personal, I guess, but like, did you not ask if you came from money, but like, you know, did you have any back and did you have a fallback of like security?  Bro, I mean, you know, at that point, like, luckily, you know, like this, I've kind of experienced almost like everything. Okay, so I blew up the account, you know, I went to my mom, I borrowed somebody from her, I went to my dad or somebody from there, went to my uncle, borrow somebody from him. That's why, you know, all those small accounts, right?  Yeah, no. But the point is why I didn't give up because, okay, if you want to start a business, why with few K, what are the odds that you're going to be successful with that? So the odds are really minimal, right? But we're trading. Yes, it's really hard, but the odds are still better. If you, let's say you open a business for three grand, you're going to fail, no, like, you know, like, not 100%, but 99.9%. Right. If you start with eBay, Amazon with three K, four K, you're going to fail too. Yeah. So, so we trading, at least I know if I work hard, right, I could get there. Yeah. But that, that is a chance, you know, the office is still better than putting money in something else, maybe trembling or something, but, you know, talking about that. So, so after all the boring money and all that, it gets to the point, you know, that I think that was my last account and I'm done, you know, I blew up, I blew that one up as well. Are you still in the other room at this point or are you by yourself? I was, you know, after that, I was like, married already. And because, you know, like, I think for like three or almost like three or four years, you know, all that account and blew it up for like three or four years straight, right? Just like, all right, just put in some money, I take, you know, three or four months off and then put again, again, again and over and over again. What type of strategies were you using? Was it like more longing, more shorting, OTC? Shorting only at that time, because, you know, got me hooked with that idea of small companies, they're going to crack, right? You know, so we just need to find, you know, which stuff and then they're all going to come down anyway. That's what, yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking.  Yeah, exactly.  Like, I could trade anything I want.  I mean, that's funny. Yeah. And also with that and, you know, a lot of money spending on those chat rooms, right?  Was it, was your wife, was your wife, because you said, we're at this point in time, you're at your last account that you funded.  Was she kind of like, do your thing? Like, you know what you're doing? Um, or like, I guess have that work out. Like, cause that's a, that's a tough dynamic.  Like I could tell her, yeah, I lost, you know, a thousand dollars today, which is just like a day's work or whatever.  Like, she's like, lost. She's so scared. She's like, are you okay? Like, what are you doing? I'm like, yeah, Jesus.   Why are you still trying something? Yeah, why, why are you still trying, like, you know, to pursue something that is not working, right?  All right, I'm going to go back to my full time job. So that time I was like, you know, going back to work and do all that and that.  So I'm done. Yeah, I couldn't borrow any money. So I had to work, you know, and I think after that, I got saved, like around like a thousand or something. Yeah, after like, you know, two months, after all the bills and all that, right? Because I was making like 1500 a month like that. Yeah, and I had to kind of put a grant away for my family, right? Basically paying the bills and, you know, good thing is that here, everything is cheap. So so I got saved, you know, a thousand bucks. And right after that point, I think M.I.C. Open, you know, M.I.C., like around August, right? Yeah, August.  I was in the chat room, you know, all different chat rooms and, and I knew Bao, like, not personally, but I knew him from Twitter. Yeah.  And I thought, you know, I must have make some really, you know, good money, right? You know, all the cars and all that. So and I said, man, this guy is really good. Let me dig in a little bit deeper. So I try to kind of dig in following him on Twitter. I saw like every single tweet from him. All the trading fish, I went through everything. Okay.   But from Bao, I can sense, you know, like the truth, you know, from him, the personality he is, but even though I never met him, right? And ever even talk to him. But I, you know, I kind of felt something, maybe also because he's Vietnamese or Asian, maybe just because of that.  He knows about trading. And right at that point, he was saying something to Alex, right? That they're going to open a chat room. And I said, man, OK, so my legend, you know, my kind of, yeah. So my guy, right, the one I'm look up to the most, he's opening a chat room, right? So this is, I mean, at that point, I was like, you know, I'm, I'm done with trading, bro. I'm done. Yeah. After all that, you know, I'm done, basically I'm done. And I hope, you know, I don't even want to say that amount anymore. I mean, thousand grand. I mean, you just don't do anything, right?  So grand would not make a difference. So right after that, I decided, OK, so I'm going to split, you know, two months by my C and then seven hundred to my, you know, that account. Yeah. And after that, you know, I joined my C and all that. So the rest is history kind of thing. Yeah, that's that's the turning point for me. Yeah, it's crazy. It's funny you say that about Bow because I feel like a bow and I'm sure Harry agrees.   And I think that's such a rare quality in people that like people it's such an under like it's not even expressed enough how much bow kind of makes you feel like there's like hope to do this. It's weird. I don't know how to explain it, but I don't know. Harry, you know, yeah, for me, one thing is I feel like he keeping it real. Yeah. You don't have to use like whatever fancy words and all that. Yeah. I mean, this is the reality and because I have experienced that trading period, right? So that's why I understood kind of more his treats. And it's kind of, you know, clicking my head, man, this guy is saying exactly the same thing that I experienced. Yeah. But nobody told me that before, right? Yeah. That's why that's the thing kept me going. And also, like kind of believing him even though, you know, I have never talked to that guy and I never saw him. So yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. He's genuine, I think. And he's not just like, you know, like it was before he was on Twitter, you know, he was on Twitter for so long, like not selling anything. Just the DMs giving genuine advice, making a killing while he's frigging doing it. Like basically said, I'm never going to open up a chat room. You know, I don't need the money. I don't need this. I don't need that.   You didn't push it. And now people are all getting it for free and they don't appreciate it.  You know, sitting every day waiting for him to post something. But no, I was waiting for like a month or two to have some sort of, you know, ideas of what he's doing, you know, was he shorting and all that. And now they've been getting for free. And that just I say I'm buying like people don't even members in M.I.C. don't appreciate some of it sometimes because I remember back then like waiting for Bauer, Alex or someone to post what they traded, how much they made for inspiration and also like a sort of guidance of like, holy shit, this is what they did. And I remember like, like I would have done anything for a watch list for any insight from any of these guys. And like to get it now, even at the monthly costs, it's like I would pay more. Like I just like think back on my early days, like if they caught me when I first started out, I would have paid more, which is crazy. But like, I would have invested in that.  Alex doing a watch list, you know, I think it's just the fact that like the members that got so used to the idea to the fact that they have all those information, right? But when you got a lot of it and you like, you know, it makes you don't appreciate it. Yeah, I mean, less is more sometimes, right?   Of course. To me, it's like we have two seven figure traders, a guy who made a million dollars a day with these people offering their help and their teaching, even even paid. It's like that cost is nothing compared to what you're getting. That's like to me, like getting basketball lessons from Michael Jordan.  And like, and like, I think it shows like, look at the mods like most of the mods were members since early on are like, you know, look at how far they've come, look how far everyone's come just from being in the room and putting in that kind of work for that. It's crazy.  And like, we just talk about it and get through it and like looking back on those times being like, wow, like shit's changed so much. Like it's you just work harder, you put in the work and your life changes. And like, you know, I know I know Tom, like you're kind of famous for that, for like the story would like Uber and stuff like that. How you were like Ubering and all that. And can you kind of dive into that because at this because you have to be close to the timeline at this point, right? Because you just write your last account. And I want to touch on that because that's like one of my favorite stories you have.   Yeah.  Can you imagine that? I fucking, you know, saving that money for trading. I was thinking, OK, let me kind of work this job, which is a little bit maybe longer, maybe six, six months or a year. So I can, you know, save up some more and put it in more.  And I think at that point, I couldn't have it. I contacted Bao. And I said, I mean, bro, I mean, I really wanted to be in M.I.C. I really wanted to be, you know, to continue and all that. But I just can't afford it, bro.  That's the most important thing.   Yeah.  And then, you know, I'm broke after that. Yeah, I can't trade with pressure, so. Yeah. So I had to find a new job, you know, right after that. But I couldn't get hired and everything.  I have car here. So what? I'm going to drive Uber. Yeah. And I was looking for, you know, a kind of time frame, which one, like which hours, you know, can make the most. So usually in the morning, you know, six, seven a.m. And at that time, you know, market, it's, I think market opens here at 3.30, right? 3.30 p.m. Yeah. You got a sign at this point, right? You had your son now? Yeah. So I, you know, like my, my, my, my son is here at that point, Anna. So basically I had to feed my family, right? And I couldn't focus on trading. And I have to find something else. No matter what, right?  You know, you can do it anyway, right? No matter how, how good you are, it's going to take time. Let's say you want to be there.  Let's say, you know, if you experienced like Bowen, but we started with 700 bucks, it's going to take him a few years to get to the next level, right? Yeah, of course, of course. I kind of realized that and I said, okay, let me find a job. So I started Uber and also the time is like, what interests me the most is that I can trade from 3.00 p.m.  Usually around midnight is good, you know, pay as well. So- So are you working like 12 hours a day, like 12 to 15 hours a day at this point, like? I would say like, I work like almost like full day, except when I come back for trading. Yeah, yeah. So when, yeah, I have to come back around like 1.00 p.m. or 2.00, just to prepare myself in the market. So maybe one or two hours and then trade for one hour. So it was like three or four hours, right? And then after that, I'm just driving Uber. That's it. But, you know, it's doable, right? Yeah. And that's the only thing I like about it is because I don't have to go to 95. If I'm going to 95, right, I can trade, right? And with that, okay? So the money might not be as good as normal job, but I still could fit my family with that, with, you know, that I could also do trading, you know, at the same time.  But all I need at that point was, I don't have to worry about monthly payment. I don't have to worry about, you know, putting food on the table, and that takes the pressure off. Right? I mean, of course there is some pressure, right? And 700 bucks. But, you know, I don't have to worry about that. Or now, you know, I can only worry about focus on that trading to grow the account. I have to be careful because, you know, if I blow up, it's going to take me maybe six months or a year driving Uber to save another grant, right? Or maybe, you know, more than that. So, yeah, so that was like really tough, bro. But then, you know, the consistency came and it just become much more easier. When you get to that two, three thousand, you know, four thousand, five thousand, it, you know, it gets so much easier.  But imagine here, like I'm driving all day, right? To be able to make that 100 bucks. Yeah. I'm not talking about, you know, service to my car, changing oil and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just net. Yeah. So, you know, with all that, I could make maybe like 50 bucks only. You know, deduct it from all the gas and all that.  And I said, okay, now we just need to stick with it. Now we just need to keep it. Yeah. See, hearing this, hearing this, this is the alpha because it's like, I get so many DMs, people saying, I don't have time to watch videos. I don't have time to do this or trade this.  Exactly.  We all grinded hard. Like, hard, hard, bro, I mean.  Yeah. Without even, you know, wanting to do it. Yeah. What other choices do I have, right? I have to do it.    But if you don't want it bad enough, you're not going to succeed. No, you know, no doubt about it. Trading's the one job where like you can, it's tough because you can put a billion hours into it and also not get anywhere.     Bro, look at Bao, right? He mortgage his house to 30K. He basically hit the rock bottom, right? But that's, I think that's one thing it's missing from the members here. A lot of members here, I think they still have something, you know, outside of trading. They still have something they could rely on.   Oh, you know, if I lose this, I'm going to be fine.   Yeah, it's funny you say that. Dude, like that's for me. Like what changed the corner for me was like, because no, like I'm not someone like, I never had the rock bottom phase of trading because I was always, I had the business, right? I was a little bit younger when I started. I had the business and, but what did it for me, because it's funny you said that because everyone always asked what the turning point was. And it wasn't until recently I realized I wanted to be able to provide for my sister and my family going forward and give them what they gave me. And when you have a reason like that or like whatever it may be to put food on the table, whatever, that's when discipline becomes almost easy.  If you don't, you're not going to achieve this goal. Yeah, I mean, it's just all about mindset, I think that's all. And it's just how bad you really want it. If you want it bad enough, you're going to be able to do it. If not, it works.   But it's like every single pullback, you know, if you're in an uptrend, you're going to have pullbacks, right?  But, you know, it's just like, you just need to keep moving forward. And I think that's the point that we're all trying to make is that for all three of us, I know that I've had setbacks, like people have, you know, witnessed me having setbacks, people have witnessed, you know, Tom, whether it was the market changed or like James as well, whether James maybe got squeezed or I got dumped on or whatever, but we just kept going, you know, we kept showing up every single day. I think that's important. It really is, it's just showing up, dude.  Like, this is why I rant about this is like, if you just show up, like it, trading is one of those weird things.   And it's like, as tough as that is sometimes, it's like, once you get into this job, it's hard to walk away from it. If you understand it at all.  Like you see guys like Bow and Alex stick to discipline over and over, you know it's possible.   And I remember, I remember so vividly when Tom started becoming consistent, because I think we were at very similar points in trading, but like, I remember when you were on that like 30 day win streak, right?    And it's crazy.  Or what got you there? What was the strategy type of thing? Strategy, like what changed it for you? Maybe it's funny, you know, to say it, but because we're in MIC, right? But basically that was the missing piece for me. And, you know, basically watching the videos, it kind of blew my mind. I mean, of course I was trading before, right? And watching the new material, I mean, it just makes more sense to me. And I knew what I was looking for, shorting or longing, yes. But I didn't understand the concept of it. And I think the most important fact is when Bao talking about risk management, when MIC talks about risk management, and that's really kind of clicked for me. Yeah. And when he said, you know, making money is not a problem, but the problem is keeping it. And that's just blew my mind and say, oh man, that's, that's all right. You know, I don't have problems making a few hundred bucks in there, but then I ended up, you know, giving back all.  But once you grabbed that code, you know, and that code was provided by MIC, right? And then it's just, you know, kind of blew it up from there. It's just like rolling, rolling. And then, you know, when, like, I think the major part here was like the daily match. Yep. Right? And I was, you know, I think I was pretty lucky at that point, you know, when I joined MIC and it was like with 700 bucks, 700 bucks I was be able to grow it to 203K, you know, pretty fast. I think in the first two weeks, and it didn't happen, you know, luckily that time the market was good. It was like in October. And well, that two weeks when I joined MIC, I went straight win, you know, straight green posting on my Twitter as well. You guys want to see it. But it's like 100 bucks, 200 bucks, 300 bucks. So it hats off.  I mean, to you guys in the US, my, you know, small, but for me, 100 bucks is like, you know, worth like at least two days of driving Uber. That's huge. Crazy long, yeah, it's amazing.   I mean, it happens, right? Yeah. And the more you, you, you lost, the more you realize what needs to be done after that. And so the, all the risk management came and after that, you know, it's just like, that's it. The moment I can control my loss, you know, that's when I craft the code. I mean, you've just been growing since. Yeah. The key thing here is not about taking a loss.  When you hit a max weight loss a day, being able to walk away from that, that's the huge, you know, I think that's, that's the most important fact because before I was like losing, right? So, all right.  I'm going to revenge trading.   But I lost more than that. I need to size up to make that back. And I think that's the key, you know, thing when you realize that and being able to walk away from that. And that's basically, that was my code back then. Yeah.  Do they, are they 100% supportive of that? Oh yes, of course, no doubt about it.  Of course, they're gonna support me.  But, you know, I kind of, I think that was the main, you know, that's something I'm really proud of myself and it's not about the money, right? It's not about, I'm proud of it because I've proved to, you know, to those people that they are wrong. Yeah. And that's what I'm proud of the most. And they said, fucking, you know, you thought it was gambling, right? Look at this, okay? Okay. And all those people, they, I think there's not a one single person trusted me like that. Not a single one, even my wife. It's crazy, right? What can you do? I mean, the reality is that I blew up several accounts. Nobody would have believed that anyway, right? Yeah, yeah. It's hard to ask for, you know, their trust after that.   It's a choice, right? Yeah.  And it makes me really happy. I love that. I know Harry had a similar thing too, right? Like the proven people, like that's not gambling. That it's actually just making, it's a job that it's like anything else.   Then once you start making it, it's like, oh, we were supporting you the whole time.  I was your rock. Oh my God, I love that. And like still some family members will always ask me, what's your five year plan or what's your whatever plan? It's like, I'm just banking every day.  I'm making money every day. And, you know, do you necessarily need a plan to year out?    It's a means to an end for me. I mean, if trading ceased, I have enough money saved that I could probably go into real estate or go into a different venture. But, you know, we all have a common theme where it's like every single day we're just showing up, we're trading, we're sticking to the process, you know, line to line. And that's really about it. And, you know, of course, in weekend mentoring as well, we're always there, you know. Tom as well, Tom's posting the friggin' links, copying every single day. Tom's a video guru.  Here we go, here's six videos.    But, you know, once you make that all back, you know, like the accounts that I blew up early on, like super early on in my trading career, you know, I could make that now daily. That's what's crazy, is that like that little investment, it's like, I'm making that daily now. So, if that's- I think about that all the time, right?  Like a small stop out now? I mean- Yeah, seriously, it's a 10 cent stop, right? It's like, you think about, you think about investing, right?  Like it cost me like a hundred grand to get the first shop going.   All the money I had saved up at that point. And then some.  It's like, okay, you invested 10 grand, but for the opportunity to make a lifetime of money.  Like, I mean, that's the reality.  Like, did you expect to get into trading without almost losing is the wrong idea. The idea is that you're investing, and that's why MIC exists, and that's why I think that MIC is so important to people is that you're investing in your education. So what's $200 a month?  Yeah. Right?  Yeah. Like this is number one way cheaper than university. If you do it right. I mean, I'm not saying take out $100,000 alone and then just start trading 4,000 or 5,000 share positions. But I mean, if you compare like the amount of money I put into trading when I first started versus one year of university that I paid, it's I paid way more money for that first year university than I did for all the accounts, for all the blowups, the education, the everything. I mean, you can't really put a price on time. Bye. Oh, no.  I mean, for MIC and especially borrowing knowledge, I was at that time and those are the only two persons that trust them, right? They have like, they believe in me. And that, you know, that sells something. Yeah. And sometimes all you need is just for someone to trust you, right? For you to kind of do it. And I think, you know, MIC, that was the breaking kind of point for me.  And so basically, Val and Alex kind of changed my life in a way. And so that's why I said to Val many times, bro, I mean, you know, you've done so much for me and what can I do for you, right? What can I do to help? And all he said was like, okay, try to be successful, right? Try to be good at it. And that's how you're gonna pay me back. And, you know, that works, right?     But because we wanted to, I believe in karma, you know, you know, one, it takes one, it doesn't take one, each one takes one, right?    I know, it's a weird, it's a weird family dynamic that we have actually in the group that it's just like, it's like trading such like, it's a lonely job, but it's a hard, it's a job that only traders understand, I think, and the fact that you have people here to kind of have a shoulder to lean on and like actually believe in you and make you feel like that without ever meeting them is the craziest thing in the world, but that's the reality. And sometimes, you know, when you think about it, a lot of members right now, they might only need us to tell them that we believe in them, right? Yeah, it's crazy. For them to have an extra push, you know, in their one journey or whatever. And that's all it takes.  It kind of motivates them, you know, working harder. Yeah. And that's basically the purpose of life anyway, right? That's why I kind of changed my Twitter to the way it was because my Twitter used to be all the time where, you know, my Twitter would just be like strategy or like chart or like whatever. Yeah, I mean too, mind you. And no one, I mean, people would like listen to it, but like, I mean, the problem I found on Twitter is that there wasn't a lot of like realness. Like there's a couple of people for sure, but there wasn't a lot of people saying that no one, like I find on Twitter and like on a lot of stuff like that, like once people make it, they like to just forget about the journey, the sacrifice, the struggle. And I think that comes back to the idea of why me and James did this in the first place. But like, I mean, you never hear a lot of professional traders talk about like, oh, I blew up this many accounts. Oh, this was a struggle. Oh, I had this, you know, conflict with my family. Oh, I had this, I had that. Like you don't really hear a lot of that. And maybe as these podcasts and as these stories start to pop up, people will kind of jump on the trend and start talking about it. But that was kind of stuff that I saw like a year ago, whatever, it's all like, oh, here's my chart. Here's my entry and exit that actually mean nothing. I mean, as much as I can show a lot of people a chart as to why I went long here, you know, they're not going to be inside my head, you know?   I mean, MIC, we have like everything. Like, I mean, the masks, three of us here, it's not because we do it because we love it.  That's exactly how Bob and Alex changed my life, you know, changed your life and also Harry's.  Of course. There's not much, you know, you can do about it. You know, you cannot please everyone, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah. Well, we have a ton more members compared to the days that, like, Nico was here. Yeah, of course, you know, it was Nico. But, you know, for me, the purpose in life for me is, you know, to be able to help someone, okay? And I might not need it in the future, but I might need it. Who knows, right? My son might need it. Of course. My son, you know, when he grows up and someone else will help him. Who knows, right? Yeah. That's, you know, basically the purpose of, like, my purpose of life, of living. And, you know, I try to kind of make a difference. And I love that.  Oh, yeah, if you're ever in my area, like, come down for a drink or if you're ever here. I mean. Yeah. Like, I'm gonna do a meet up here. Thou could go wherever. You could drive around the states and just write on Twitter or write an MIC. Hey, bro, I'm in Florida. Like, who's up for a drink in this town? I'm sure like, 50 people would just drive there and be like, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know? Like, what's up?  I mean, it's like, it's awesome, right?  Yeah, it's wild. But, but as we're, I mean, we are coming up on the hour mark, which is what we're trying to keep. And, but I guess to end it, we could kind of wrap it up with like, Tom, what do you, what's the best piece of advice you would give a new trader right now that you wish you could talk to yourself again when you first started? What would it be? The process, right? I mean, it sounds really simple, but, you know, it's gonna get you to where you want it. Again, the process, everyone is different. You have a different process. I have a different process, but you have to find something, you know, working for you. So it's for you, right? All to, I mean, we're not gonna go over, you know, the parents and all that. We have the, you know, the videos for that. But once you grasp that part, right? Once you found something that's been working for you, you know, try to stick with that, right?  And that's why they trade on the fly. That's why they're revenge trading because, you know, you don't have an edge, right? You don't know exactly what you're looking for from the market. Yeah, I mean, the market is telling you, the market is giving you the signal, but you are still confusing with that, right? I mean, same thing with playing a blackjack. You know, if you know that you have 19 and 20 hands, you're gonna bet on those, right?   And you don't know which one to choose.   It takes time to find a good product, but once you've found it, stick with it. Yeah. And stick with that. Acute with risk management, you're gonna be fine. Yeah, I completely agree with that. Like, I mean, like, me and Tom don't have the same style. Me and James don't have the same style, you know? Exactly. But we're all able to make money, and it's so crazy because if you look at the stocks that I traded today, like, I know that, I know James wasn't trading or, I didn't, I wasn't, I was like kind of in and out, but like, I can guarantee you that, you know, Tom wasn't trading the stocks that I was in when I was long. And when Tom was short, I was not trying to go long where Tom was short. And that's because we have our own process. And, you know, for Tom, it's going to be shorting into a resistance or shorting into POPs or waiting for the stock to come down and then shorting abouts, you know? There's all those different things. But I understand, you know, just as much as I understand what Tom's doing, you know, Tom understands what I'm doing as well. And I think that's why we can all get along because Tom isn't going short at the bottoms into the weakness, right? Tom's waiting for the POP.  And if I ever wanted to go short, I could easily just be like, oh, Tom, you know, 460 line, like that one's looking pretty good, you know, because our cells always match and our covers always match, you know? Exactly. That was one time it was long, right? Well, exactly same entry as you. Yeah, same entry, almost. Yeah. So, you know, I think it's all comes down to that process I was talking about. And I think that's the most important for the new traders to find, you know, the edge, right? To find, to know what they're looking for. Because you coming into the market without even knowing what exactly what you're looking for, I mean, that's hard, right? How can you keep up with that? All the prints, you know, all the charts, all the tapes, it's impossible.  You have all that, you know, informations and also in the chat room that we have, you know, plenty of ideas coming in, right? All the text and if you take that, all that seriously, all at once and you don't even focus on what you do that, you're gonna, you know, be confusing. All those information are really overwhelmed and it happened to me before, right? When I was like, you know, talking to, like chatting to so many people at the same time. So that would be my, you know, my best advice, focus on that process, define what is your process and stick to that. Yeah. I love it. I love that. I love it.    Every single day we're just, we're just trading. Yeah, I think right.  I'm gonna get you, Tom. I love it. Because Tom's shorting it to the pop, you know? Oh, yeah. I love it. It's the best thing that you could, you know, wish for, right? Being able to trade, having fun, making a lot of money, you know, have, you know, met a lot of new friends and being to help people at the same time.  I mean, like us now, we trading for like, maybe 30 minutes or like an hour. Sometimes I'm done, like, you know, after 15 minutes that opens. Man, I was stopping all day to like friggin three o'clock, but yeah, you know, did anyone just keep posting like as the day it went on? I was busy.   So I love it.   I really do. I love you guys.  I think.  Later guys. Yeah.


Fort Laramie, starring Raymond Burr as Captain Lee Quince, specially transcribed tales of the dark and tragic ground of the wild frontier, the saga of fighting men who rode the rim of empire, and the dramatic story of Lee Quince, Captain of Cavalry. Looks like they're about ready to pull out, Captain. Yeah. Walk back with me, Sergeant. I never did see such a mangy collection of stock. It's not a cavalry outfit, Gorse. It sure ain't. Most of these wagon trains heading west get through one way or another, but I sure don't know how. I talked with Mr. Brown a couple of times. He seems like a good man. He is. But I wonder how much luck a Missouri farmer's going to have taking a couple of hundred women and children through Indian countries. He'll make out, Captain. I hope so. Hello, Sergeant Gorse. I beg your pardon, Miss. I was afraid we'd leave without seeing you again. Oh, well, I... And I wanted to thank you for last night. Yeah, sure, Miss. Goodbye, Sergeant. And thank you. Still water runs deep, Gorse. How's that, Captain? Never mind. All I did was give her a little old knife. I borrowed it to Suttler. Never mind, never mind, Sergeant. It's all it was, Captain. Just give her a little old present. Sure, Sergeant. Do a breath till we hit the river. You're late getting started, Mr. Brown. Oh, hello, Captain Quinn. Only about an hour. You're wasting daylight. Yeah, we're pulling out now, Captain. Any of your men going to ride along with us? No, but you won't have any trouble. I like they say, Captain. Oregon or bust. You guarantee no trouble, Captain? Out here, we don't guarantee anything, Mr. Brown. But you should at least get through to Salt Lake without trouble. Yeah, I hope you're right. It's mighty lonely out there once you're out of sight of the fort. Yeah, I know. Well, thank the Major for his hospitality, will you? No thanks, necessary. Now, good luck. Thanks. See you in Oregon sometime, Captain. What are you staring at? Nothing, Captain. Just a train heading out. You've seen a few hundred of them before, Sergeant. Yes, sir. What's her name? Who? The girl. Emily? Emily McCutcheon. Going to Oregon with her paw. She was put up real good.  Yes, sir. Long way to Oregon. I hope they make it. So do I. Yeah, come on. I missed coffee this morning. Let's find some. There's a rider coming in. Yeah. Looks like a white man. Dressing bucksky. Hunter, maybe. It's Will Granby. He's a squall man, eh? Yeah, lives with the Arapaho. Captain? How are you, old horse? Mm, tolerable. Well, it's good to see you. You haven't been in in two or three years. Nope. You come for supplies? Come to Parley. Got a proposition. All right, come on in, Will. Hmm, bludge. Uh, Sergeant Gorse, would you have Mr. Granby's horse tabled? Yes, sir. Come on. Come on. Sit down, Will. Hmm, bludge. All right, now what is it? What's your proposition? I figured maybe to hire out to you. You want a job? Cavalry always needs scouts. Maybe. You saying you want the job? Why not? I know this country better than the hairs on my head.  There's some few places I've been even gay being.  You lived wild and free all your life. Why do you want to tie yourself down now? Yeah. It ain't like the old times no more, Captain. Ain't pleasurable now. It's hard. Maybe it's a doing you cavalry fellas. Or maybe it's our own fault. Maybe we've trapped too much. Took too much buffalo, I don't know. But, uh, I got to be a young squall. Pretty least you ever seen. I figured if I was to work, her and me would eat regular at least. Right now we have peace. We don't need any more scouts. I figure you do, Captain. Tell me, Will. Am I hired? I haven't got the authority to hire you. That'll have to come from the major. No, I'd rather deal with you. I know you. I can't hire you, but if you've got information I'll make you a promise. At least I'll feed you and send you back with meat. Yeah, meat I could carry wouldn't last long. And we'll go see the major. Wait, I'd rather tell you, but you've got to promise me one thing. What's that? It'll be settled peaceful. They're my people. Well, I'll do all I can. All right. There's going to be trouble. Tribes are getting restless, all of them. You wrap a hole in them. Government promised them if they'd go to the agencies they'd get food, meat. And that promise ain't been kept. Yeah, I know. Supply train comes through now and then, but it's not enough, I know that. They wrap a hole or starve them, Captain. Eating bark and roots. Game on agencies played out. If they can't get food from the government or from the land, then they got to go looking for it wherever they can. They got to eat. Will have they left the agency? Or camped at Silver Spring. That's on the Oregon Trail. They got to eat, Captain. They went looking for Buffalo, but there ain't no Buffalo. So they'll get food where they can from the wagon trains. Well, we got to talk to the Major. You promised. I said I'd do all I could and I will. There's not much time for talking. There's a wagon train headed for Silver Springs right now. Yeah, I know. I saw it. All right, come on. We'll see the Major. How do we know this man's telling the truth? I've known him for a long time, Major. He doesn't lie. Could be a trap. If it is a trap, then there's trouble for sure. I don't trust a man who lives with Indians. Marries him. No, no, look here. Major, there's a wagon train on the trail to Silver Springs right now. They got to be warned. I can still ride out with the detachment to turn them back. Captain Quince, our orders are to keep the trail open to Oregon and to keep the Indians on the agencies. If anything, we'll send a company to escort the train through and run those Arapaho back where they belong. Couldn't do that without fighting, Major. That's one of the functions of the cavalry. In this case, there's no cause for it. They'll have broken their treaty, Captain. The way they see it, we're the ones who broke the treaty by not keeping our promise about food. All I know is they're off the agency and then have to go back. If we go out and force, there's bound to be trouble. If I take a small detachment, maybe I can talk to them. This is a hostile action, Captain. It's got to be met as such. Major, the Arapaho are starving. They got to eat. Mr. Granby, I'm sorry that they're starving, but I can't do anything about it. At least not until the supplies come through to me. My orders are to keep the Arapaho on the agency and I can do something about that. If you're in their hungry, they only want food. Captain Quince, you'll take Company B and escort the wagon train until you meet the Arapaho. You'll send the wagon train on and escort the Indians to the agency and use whatever measures are necessary. That's all, Captain. Yes, sir. One thing, sir. What is it? Have I your permission to hire Will Granby as a scout? I don't see why it's necessary, but if you want him, take him. Thank you, sir. What man is that? Oh, he's all right, Will. He's an officer. He's got his orders. He goes by the book. He understands the situation all right, but he can't admit it. Listen, can you be ready to move out in an hour? I can't ride with you, Captain. They're my people. Will, I said I'd do what I could. I need your help. Ride with me. You know what you're asking? You know what it might mean for me if there's trouble? There won't be trouble if I can prevent it. I'm afraid you can't, Captain. But I'll go with you. We should see him just over this hill, Captain. Have the Arapahoe didn't see him first. You figure they'd attack? I don't know, Sergeant, but I'll feel easier when we spot that wagon train. I was right, Captain. There they are. All right, Sergeant. Let's ride out. Company! I told you to stop here, Mr. Brown, for the night. Oh, why? We figured the camp at Silver Springs is just over the pass there, not more than two or three miles. We can make it easy before dark. This'll make an all-right camp as water and wood. If there's trouble, Captain, I want to know. It may be nothing, Mr. Brown, but I want to find out.  It's Indian sainted. There is trouble. Maybe, maybe not. But there's no use worrying all your folks. You'll be safe here. I'm leaving most of my men to guard you. Well, why can't you escort us over the pass to Silver Springs? Because if there were to be trouble, it would happen there in the pass, with the wagon trains all strung out and hard to defend. All right, Captain, whatever you say. I'll come back or send word back to Lieutenant Cybridge as soon as I know it's safe for you to cross. Sergeant Gorse! Yes, sir? You and two men will accompany Mr. Granby and myself. Pick them and fall out. Lieutenant Cybridge is in charge here till I get back. I don't see a doggone thing, Captain. Well, keep it sharp eye. Move the troopers further out the flank. Yes, sir. If you need to hear somewhere, I can feel it. Well, they must have seen the train, Will. Yeah, they have, but they also saw the soldiers. They might be making tracks already. They disappear pretty fast. I don't think they've had that much time. They'll probably stand for a fight. And, Captain, what are you going to do? Will, a few miles back, did you... Did you notice anything? On the trail? Sure, a buffalo sign. Right. The first I've seen this close to Laramie in a year. Big herd, too. Across the trail going south. It'd make a lot of Arapahoe meat. Yeah, it might work. Worth a try. Great. See anything, Will? Yeah, one of the scouts. Leave it to me. Not a scene enough. I need a scene off. All right. He'll take a scene. This is the first Indian village I've ever been in. It wasn't full of barking dogs. They had to eat them. You notice how it is, Captain? Yeah, I see. I'd say they're not very happy to see us. No. I'm... I'm sorry, Will, to turn them against you. All right. Can't be helped. Yeah, this is it. All right, Daddy, too.  They don't come to fight great-father. This Captain Quinn, she comes as a friend. White soldier is not a friend of Arapahoe. White soldiers break promise. They do not give meat. I think I can get you meat, great-father. I think I can take your hunters to Buffalo. A big herd. You think? You do not know? Arapahoe have ride from agency in north hunt Buffalo all through wide valley. No, Buffalo. Great-father, on my way here from Fort Laramie, I saw much Buffalo sign. You hunted only the north side of the river. You haven't been south of the plat I have. There are Buffalo there. To hunt take many days. Wagon train is here now. If you attack that wagon train, it'll mean much fighting. Many dead among the Arapahoe. Great mourning among the Arapahoe. There will be mourning for the white soldiers too. The army will keep on sending soldiers rifles until the Arapahoe is no more. You know I speak the truth. My people are hungry. Then ride back towards the fort with me. I'll show you Buffalo sign and you can track from there. Take many days. It's the only way you can be sure to find Buffalo and food. If you find Buffalo in two days, great-father does not attack wagon train. Two days isn't very long. Two days. If we do find Buffalo, I want your promise to go peacefully back to the agency. If you find... All right. Your hunters will come with me. But meantime, you must let the wagon train go through in peace. This one may be not next one. It is agreed then, great-father. Why not? Captain, two days ain't very long. We gotta be awful lucky. We don't have much choice. You know what will happen if we don't find Buffalo? Yeah. There'll be just the five of us out there with great-feathers' hunters. Like I say, we don't have much choice. We gotta guess where the Buffalo will be. We don't have time to backtrack them. Sergeant Gorse! Yes, sir? I'm sending you back to the wagon train with a message for Mr. Cybert's. Private Jenkins' horse is fresher, Captain. I haven't been on no Buffalo hunt in a long time. All right, Sergeant. Jenkins, Jenkins, you'll go back to the wagon train and tell Mr. Cybert to escort the train past Silver Springs, then return here in Bevwack. If I should not return, he's to get clear if he can and report to the fort for reinforcements. Move out. Well, we got 48 hours, Will. Let's find those Buffalo. See anything, Will? Nothing, Captain. Not on that side. Well, then this way either. You can see a long way. I don't like to look of them back there. Grayfeather's getting anxious. I know. I just don't understand it, Will. It's not a sign. I've been thinking, Captain. We're too far south. Buffalo, we're headed south. Maybe not as fast as far as we thought. Maybe they veered east. No, I've been thinking. It's been hot and dry for these last few days. No wind. Buffalo don't travel much in the heat. They just stand and graze and suffer with thirst. But there's wind now. Well, some from the southwest. Well, if there's up north of here, it'll bring them a smell of water from the Laramie River. Yeah. Yeah, the river's still high. Yeah, and they'd probably be craving for water about now and they'd stick their notches into the wind and make a run for it like they do. You might be right, Will. So if we cut back northeast to the Laramie, we'll find them. They might be there. There's only one trouble. What? Look who's coming. Uh-huh. Captain, it is as Greyfeather spoke. You promised Buffalo two days. Now two days are gone. There is no Buffalo.  We've been looking a long time, Greyfeather, but now we know where the Buffalo are. Captain, give much talk. We want Buffalo, not talk. Greyfeather, my soldiers are at Silver Springs. If we do not return there, it will mean war for the Arapahoe. Maybe you return, but he not. It is not yet evening of the second day. There is little time. Maybe, but enough. We're going to the waters of the Laramie and find your Buffalo. On this next rise we ought to be able to see. And ride, Will. What if they ain't there, Captain? Well, if not, maybe we can get to the river, find some cover, so stay close. Watch for my signal. Yes, sir. You, uh, you should have gone back to that wagon train, Sergeant. I guess I am much of a garrison soldier. All right, look sharp. Captain. They ain't at the river. There's nothing. Wait, look there. Coming over the hills beyond, running for the river. Look at him. Thousands of him, noses in the wind and running belly bent for breakfast. There go your buffalo grape feather. All you can eat. Well, go on. Get him. He sure was mighty hungry, Captain. Yeah. Well, I guess our luck hailed. I guess it did. Well, let's, let's ride on down to the river. I could do with a drink. Yes, sir. Do you have any trouble? No, sir. No casualties. Either side. You took long enough. The Oregon trail's still open, Major. The Rappahoe are back on the agency. What took the time? Why, uh, why, we, we found some buffalo, stopped to hunt. The Indians took enough meat back to the agency to keep them quiet all summer. I see. Well, that, that was fortunate. It was mostly Will Grandby's doing. He found the buffalo. Oh, well, maybe I was wrong about him, Lee. Maybe he can be useful to us. I think he can. I, uh, brought him back with us. His wife, too. You, uh, you like to meet her? An Rappahoe? She's sure not St. Louis. Sure. All right, Captain. Howdy, Major. This is Will's wife, Major. Lark woman. How do you do? Yeah, lawyer. Mr. Grandby. Yes, sir. If she's to stay around the post, she'll, uh, she'll have to wear something more than that. Huh? Oh, yeah. She's got a shirt somewhere in the baggage. She, Rappahoe women aren't like Cheyenne or the Sue or Crow. They don't wear much except when it's right cold. There are a lot of men in the post, Will. Huh? Oh, yes, sir, Captain. I'll see to it. Oh, and Mr. Grandby. Yes, sir. My compliments on your work with Captain Quince. As of now, you may consider yourself on the Army payroll as Scout. It'll be in tomorrow's special order. Yes, sir. The quartermaster will house you. All right, Major. Come on, child. She's, uh, kind of pretty, isn't she, Lee? Yeah. They make, uh, pretty good wives, too. Clean, quiet, hard-working, nice people. Uh, you wouldn't be trying to soften me up, would you, Lee? Win me over to your way of thinking. I figure a man's got to make up his own mind about things, Major. Captain Quince. Yes, sir? Don't get too smart. Just be thankful I don't ask how you happened to run into Buffalo and turn a serious police duty into a pleasure trip, hunting. My strikers cooking up some buffalo steaks made you dang it.  Sure, let's go, Lee. Fort Laramie is produced and directed by Norma McDonald and stars Raymond Burr as Lee Quince, captain of Cavalry, with Vic Perron as Sergeant Gorse. The script was specially written for Fort Laramie by John Dunkel, with sound patterns by Bill James and Ray Kemper, musical supervision by Amarigo Moreno. Featured in the cast were Jack Moyles, Ralph Moody, Edgar Berrier, Frank Cady, and Eleanor Tannen. Company tension. Dismiss. Next week, another transcribed story of the Northwest Frontier and the troopers who fought under Lee Quince, captain of Cavalry. If people were money, life would be simple and deep. We could enter them in books, in nice, regular columns. One for credit, another for loss. And as long as we kept the credit column higher, the losses wouldn't matter. Money spent can be re-earned, but people are not money. Every individual is irreplaceable. The time to care about them is now before another victim is hurt. 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Hi everyone welcome to basic science series. Today we are going to discuss about pattern recognition receptors. If a pathogen breaches the physical barrier the innate immune system provides an immediate but non-specific response. The innate response is usually triggered by microbes which are identified by pattern recognition receptors. In short PRR. These receptors are our sensor machines which detect molecules typical for the pathogens. Remember cells do not have sensory organs like eyes or ears to detect the foreign things. They have sensors that can differentiate between self and non-self and these sensors are known as PRR pattern recognition receptors. What PRR sends are the specific part of virus, bacteria and parasites. These specific parts are called as PAMPs, pathogen associated molecular patterns. Also there are DEMPs. These are damage associated molecular patterns. These are associated with the components of host cells that are released during cell damage because a non-functional cell part is also harmful therefore immune system also detect these DEMPs and clear the DEMPs from our body. PRR sensors are of three types. Membrane bound sensors, cytoplasmic sensors and inflammasomes. Membrane bound sensors include receptor kinases, toll-like receptors, C-type lectin receptors. Cytoplasmic PRR includes nod-like receptors and rig-like receptors. The inflammasomes are multi-protein complexes that help to detect PAMPs and DEMPs. Pattern recognition receptors play a crucial role in the proper function of innate immune system. PRR are germline encoded host sensors which detect molecules typical for the pathogens. They are proteins expressed mainly by cells of the innate immune system such as dendritic cells, macrophages, monocytes, neutrophils and epithelial cells. PAMPs include bacterial carbohydrates such as lipopolysaccharide or mannose, nucleic acids such as bacterial or viral DNA, bacterial peptides such as flagelline or microtubules, peptidoglycans and lipoticoic acids. PRRs in human medicine. Node-2 has been associated through a loss and gain of function with development of Crohn's disease. Mutations in nod-2 incorporation with environmental factors leads to the development of chronic inflammation in intestine. Another possible exploitation of PRRs in human medicine is also related to tumor malignancies. The PRRs are also tightly connected to the proper function of neural networks and tissues, especially because of their involvement in the process of inflammation. I hope the presentation was helpful for you to understand PRRs, PAMPs and DAMPs, what are the different examples of these receptors and what are the functions of these receptors. Please stay tuned and do not forget to subscribe to the YouTube channel.


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