Why the Mandalorian is genius? Let's see what we got. How can I make this longer than five minutes? It's frozen. It's frozen. It's frozen. It should be jealous of this. It's frozen. We're about a sack of meat cabbage. That'd be better. Actually, yeah, I think it's better. An erect scrotum? I was trying to find allegorical meaning. I know I've had a fair amount of scrotums. It's sensitive. It asks you how you feel. And it can detect danger. It's soft and vulnerable. It's new ones.   Again, yes, that's the mother flip rhyme of mine next. Dude, we've got a sailor's mouth on you. It's frozen. It's frozen. It's frozen. It should be jealous of this scrotum. We're about a sack of meat cabbage. That'd be better. Actually, yeah, I think it's better. An erect scrotum? I'm just like a little boss. Halloween is superior. Christmas. Christmas creates misery. It's a totalitarian holiday. Everyone's been a while while it's around. The presents, the eggnog, the family.  Sugar plump berries.  Those chestnuts are roasted.  It's frozen. It's frozen. It's frozen. It's frozen. It should be jealous of this scrotum. We're about a sack of meat cabbage. That'd be better. Actually, yeah, I think it's better. An erect scrotum?  Wait, Star Wars. Yeah. Let's go back. An e-fap far, far away. He is a true massive. And so the e-faping begins. The e-fap is like a glory bowl of water.   I got you now. Have you never been in a three-way with a girl, though? One tip removed? No.   She indeed was the equivalent of an intergalactic demon. Uh, uh... I'm objectively dead. I'm okay with that. This is a trap. I've been dead before. When it fits a woman. I'm not drinking, and I'll eat, and I'll chew, and then I'll poop. I'm not drinking, and I'll eat, and I'll chew, and then I'll poop. I sign a line. I'm not drinking, and I'll eat, and I'll chew, and then I'll poop. Yes. That was a fantastic intro. Oh, I know those songs are just wonderful. That's good stuff. We, uh... You'll see us checking those out in a recording ahead of time on the, uh... Well, this, technically, it'll be in front of this, even though it was technically behind it. But hello! Welcome to part three of this, uh, wonderful nightmare. See? Yeah, this is pros and cons, all in one. Um, welcome to the roster. We got As, Evan, and South. I cut all your names in half. Sort of. How do you feel? Perfectly balanced, as all things should be. As all things should be. I should have called As. Ah. Ah. Ah! Congratulations on the EFAT 100, dude. It's a fantastic achievement. Why? Thank you. Privilege to be here. I appreciate it. Thank you. It's Mr. Raggles, as well. I'm here. All as well. It's both of our... We've been here for the whole thing. Both of us. It's kind of crazy. I've watched a lot. I've watched a good few hours. Yeah. The Jim Sterling stuff, I was hooked on that nonsense video. Nonsense video of his. So many great videos on The Last of Us 2. It's weirdly common, isn't it, that everyone's discussed such great things to say about it. It's almost like a game, movie, TV show that's this bad can generate so many hours of amazing content for EFAT to cover. It's almost like there's an implication there of what we may be covering. What is this density? It's bad. How bad is it? It'd be tally tubbies.  And we're going to be holding their feet to the fire. Goddammit.  Tinky Winky, in the newest episode, he fucking... He catches Poe having a bad dream and tries to kill him.  Something like that. But of course, hardcore fans, we know what's up. And yeah, I think it's good that we're finally going to be exploring some videos complaining about it because... Or praising it, we will be complaining about it. What's the name of the vacuum?  Sucks a lot? That's oddly appropriate. I can't say, I honestly have a problem with that. Oh yeah, people are curious about those reactions. All coming up on Mueller, it's going to be one big rollout.  I'll have to see about what the universe wants out of that one. Hopefully everything goes without a hitch. Was it the Thor arriving in Wakanda theme, possibly? All I could see on the notification before I got started up here was Avengers, and I'm assuming it was the Tonald meme. Because I think the Avengers theme happens. I was sure that the laughter was going to knock it out, but you know how things work. You know how Avengers are, it's like you played our song for three seconds, 12 hours belongs to us. Like, oh. Yeah, that's the world we live in. That seems weird. That's great stuff. Hooray. It's up to them, it's their opinion. So that is the link if you guys want to just jump right in. It's funny, we did this last year as well, but I overprepared. We've got like another five EFAP 100's worth of content we could cover. I'm just looking at my notes. Yup, we got through about 5% of this. Well, it's good to overprepare though. The last of us two videos, there's still a selection of them to go through. The funny thing is, the one we're covering was what we were going to cover when we did EFAP, was it 99? 98. We were going to cover this then, but we ran out of time because Cosmonauts, it was Cosmonauts, right? Yes. This was awful. Well, I actually, I recommend it to you, Mahler. Hey, we should do Cosmonaut first because the internet janitor's video is even worse. We should save the worst video for last. Oh boy, now that I have all this energy. Yeah. I'm confused, like EFAP ran out of time? How does that work? Because YouTube capped us. Oh no. How messed up is that? You can see that we're streaming now if you could. Maybe the day that that does become a thing where they're like, yeah, streaming has now been boosted to 100 hour cap. We'll be like, oh my God. Everything changes. So yeah, is there anything we should know preamble before we do this one?  Is there is the meme that he's a janitor? I've never seen a video of him before this and this is a terrible first impression. Never seen videos. Yeah, I don't know anything about internet janitor. I don't believe unless we covered him and I've just forgotten. Oh, I don't think so. I love terrible first impressions. He's going to take out the garbage. That's us. Oh my God. He'll take out the trash. This is called Why Didn't Ellie Have Damaged Tattooed on Her Forehead? The Last of the Two of You. I mean, it's a good reference. Okay. Maybe it was more of the streams unlisted. Is that true? I'll sort that right out in a moment if it is. I thought he had a different title for the video. Same public for me? What does public for me too? Give it the ol' refresh should look fine. So yeah, it's funny. We started streaming at this time yesterday. We crossed the 24-hour mark. It was always an interesting one. It's just like, what did I do again? Oh yeah, I sat here complaining. Just normal day. Every day is the way it works. So yeah, I guess we'll just jump right in. It's just a nod in every day. Here we go. Whoa. You have betrayed the fan base. Nobody wants and people... Hey, Ryan, get out. We know Ryan. Hey, you made it. Ryan? Absolutely hate what Naughty Dog has done. We're gonna pull 180 at the climax! Yeah. No! No! Nobody can tell me this ending makes sense. Hey, there was my bagging, boarding, and streaming. Stream with Nerdrodic on the side panel there. I'm happy. Well, you're all toxic. It all makes sense. You'd all be the each other's recommended you bastards. I really wish that Eric July would come on eFap at some point. I think he would get along great with you guys. Which one? Which one's that? So he's actually the last one that he shows up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Very funny dude. And very based as well. Well, yeah. Good guy. Exciting. Let's let us continue. Plus two, and I heard the game is 25 hours long. And I've been waiting six years to see what happens to Joel. That echo. So very sharp setting. Sad somber. I'd like to start this review off by answering one of the most controversial questions surrounding this game. On a scale of one to 10, how good was Joel's murder? No, I've seen him shot or eaten by infected. Wait, he's pretty bad. Like he's murdered? Or him being murdered? Him dying, I'm guessing.   No, it's just it's just so bad.  All right, I follow. That means it's a positive. Yeah, I was going to say, you know, I'm just. No, no, not on my scale.  It's taking it back. It's like apologizing.   I mean, I'm smart. I reject it. Plus a negative equals a positive. That's a reality. I reject your reality and substitute my own. Reality is always disappointing. It's reality is subjective. I mean, that's what Thanos thought. He was right.  Can you go wrong? I don't think so. I give it two happy steroids out of 10. Yeah. I mean, I just give it a fucking. I don't like it. Okay. I give it a no. I'd rather I'd rather like just watch a compilation of all the different possible death animations from the first game and see what they did in the second game with Joel. Back to so many times just murdered over and over and over and over and over and over and over. It's something as a culture we love to see in video games. So I'll be grading on a couple of different things. First, execution style. Let's say this is a pretty straightforward execution.  Fear. Joel Cena. So I guess we'll just kind of do an interesting strategy. I'm guessing this is kind of a joke, like kind of just setting it like people didn't like the death. So he's just being funny now. Open with a meme. Let's break the ice, I suppose. Okay. Why not? Why not? Why not? This didn't really seem to faze him too much. In fact, he's so disconnected from it. He says one of the most badass lines in the game.  So he didn't really The only part in that scene where Joel was acting in character, by the way. Yeah, at least they gave him that. At least they gave him a dignified last line. It's like, thank you for that. Yeah, we all agree his line wasn't out. As lost lines go, you know. Yeah. So he didn't really seem that scared. Looks like all those muscles weren't really intimidating him too much. 2 out of 10. Skull Crunch. This was Crunchwrap Supreme Levels of Crunch. 10 out of 10. L.E.P.T.S.D. This moment gives everyone involved, including L.E. horrible, horrible P.T.S.D. to the point where it's actually sad it made me feel sick about myself. 10 out of 10. I was just apathetic because it wasn't earned. Yeah. When she started getting the hits of P.T.S.D. I was sort of just like, all right, this is happening. I guess. That brings our total score to an 80%. So Joel's murder gets a solid 8 out of 10. That's a good murder. Except for this time when his murder is for real, apparently. This time, Joel's murder was just something we as a society were not ready to handle. Historians will remember this moment as the tipping point of 2020. It caused YouTubers and Twitter users to have a collective hive mind meltdown.  The hive mind, it was just really shitty and everyone recognized it. Isn't it crazy that several people can consume a thing and then have a similar reaction to it in terms of upset? Crazy. I love how many people will do this. They'll just like put videos side by side. They'll be like, then the internet just piled together and they had the exact same opinion. It's like, well, listen to their arguments. Maybe they have something valid to say. What was the source to him? Consensus has become hive mind and the two different things.  Yeah. They're a hive mind of not loving Joel. I also just... Where's the video that says collective hive mind that enjoyed this thing? Look at these. It's not a hive mind when it's positive. We just went through hours of this on part two.  You're not allowed to dislike stuff. You're only allowed to like stuff.  It's all wrong if you dislike it.   You're doing it for clicks. You're just following the hive mind. It's all wrong. Don't ask questions. Just pretend that it's what you wanted and consume more product. About Joel's death ever since. They're gone. They're nothing. They're broken or dead. All of them are broken or dead and all the new characters that I like in this game are dead and gone and broken. Alright. There's some of you gamers ready to have a hard talk. Let's talk for real about this game. Why don't you take a seat? Are you ready? So... What are you doing here? I'm here to make fun of the game, bruh.  Are you member of the Smash Bros. community? Yes. I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC. I was initially... I get that reference. Alright. Oh yeah, yeah, okay. Congratulations. Yep. They're just as confused as everyone else.  I mean, he's on a cover, right? No. What? No. Stop doing this. Really bad. Really bad stop. Because this is the thing. If you brought this argument up, it's like, yeah, why would people think Joel's like, oh no. No, no, no, no, no. Is all the promotional material? Yeah, that could have been it. What about the trailer with him saying, you really think I'd let you do this alone? That kind of eluded to me that he'd be in the game. Also kind of amuses me. Like, Boksa decides which characters are in the game. Where's Abby?  Why did... Where's my group coal gone? Where are my country gone? Uh, Rags? Are you there? Yeah, okay.  That was weird. I was like, did I get kicked? Call? Yeah. And it did the voice call. It just said no voice call for anybody anymore. Yeah, I like... Because you wanted to add somebody. I could only assume that was Disco. Disco was like, you want to add someone to the coal? I will disband the coal. You want to add someone? You want to talk to someone new? Now no one gets to talk.  I have to ask you, what are you doing adding Sargon to this call when we already have Azir? It's going to be impossible to tell the two apart. Wow, racist. It's not totally different. No, I'll know. For me, Az sounds a lot like a love child between Fringy and Sargon. That's racist. That is very racist. How is that racist? No, it's homophobic. No, it's not racist. It's a love child between Az and... No, Az is a love child between Sargon and Fringy. It's homo-racist. Homo is racist. It's homo-racist. Yeah. Also, I just have to say, Joel being in the trailer being like, you think I'd let you do this on your own? That's a selling point.  You're in the fake scene. The fake scene that was created to fake market the game. Yeah, in the trailer. It's not nearly the same thing as showing Hulk and Wakanda charging at Thanos.  Oh, yeah. We didn't even get to address that portion of it. Do we want to repeat and just replay that? No, no, no. I remember him saying it. I was just... This is what I mean. It's a 21-minute video, but I guarantee this thing is going to be dense when he starts making arguments.  So, like... He's not on the box cover. No, he's on the box cover.  I don't even... Like, what does the cover play into it? It's like, did you think Quint was going to be in Jaws? He's not on the cover. There's just the shark and the girl. How come Joel's died? He's on the cover. You know what I mean?  It must be the main character. How could you do this? Oh, well. That should have been a dead giveaway that something bad was going to happen early on, but still. No. Well... I think everyone basically knew Joel was not living through this game. Hey, you remember who? I think it was very commonly accepted. Remember how Left of Dead had an arm on the front cover? That meant all the other characters were dead. That's just how it works. Whoever's arm that was, even though it was a zombie arm, they'll be alright. Traumatized by this experience, who could kill our beloved Joel? The man strong enough to do this must have been... Wait, what? No, that's not the argument. It's how he was killed. It's the argument. It's the whole idea that we're just mad because Joel died. It's not that. It's the execution. Yes. Did you catch it? It's also, though, at least a guy killed him. Wait, it was a girl? No. I'm sure that there's some amount of people out there that would have been mad no matter how Joel would have died, but, I mean, that doesn't represent everyone. Why aren't they addressing the more substantive criticisms about how he died because of bullshit? Hey, guys, how's it going? Hello. We are solid. We're 20-something hours in this train. I don't know what time it is. I don't know. There's light through my window again, and we've gone a full circle. How have you madmen done this? I'd be your force of will. We did it last year. Fuck. We'll do it again. Yeah. So you guys talk about the last of us, too, are you? Yes. We're also talking about the last of us, as well. Otherwise known as gaming generation. Have we...  Right. Yeah, you can absolutely say what it is. Yeah. I mean, it is, though, isn't it? Because, like, didn't Neil Druckmann get this woman who wrote the last of us won, force out of her job and take over her job? Right. So Amy Hennig didn't write the last of us won, to my knowledge. She wrote the Uncharted games. Yeah. He basically, she left Night Dog. She had to sign an NDA, so it's not entirely clear as to what the circumstances were. But he took a lot of her ideas for the game and then added in a bunch of stuff that she, like the character of Nadine, whom you're railroaded into fighting without being able to land a single hit on. That was all Druckmann's idea. That wasn't Amy's idea, which indicates a little bit about how much he's trying to please his dear, lovely Anita Sarkeesian. Well, yeah, I was going to say, I knew you guys would know, but for anyone who didn't know, Neil Druckmann is an acolyte of Anita Sarkeesian. Oh, no. Even back into, like, 2013, 2014, when he was presenting her the, what was the award that she got at the Game Developers Club? Well, that award was... Like an ambassador or something. Best to see a lady. No, no, no. It was 2013 that made it a presentation. The amazing benefit award of amazingness for women. Yeah. Basist girl of all time. That's what she won. Basist gamer girl. The most based lady, yeah. The OG gamer girl. Anita Sarkeesian. It was 2014 that she got the ambassador award, and Neil Druckmann presented it, and it was phenomenal. Ambassador Kirkwood. Not playing games. Hey, she bought... She went to Electronic Boutique. She bought some games. She took a photograph next to them. She comes up with a gameboy, and she's like, yeah, that's proof of gaming. Proof of gaming ship. Good job. That's not a good game. It's Nintendo. That's not a good game. One of the things that I... I didn't play the Last of Us games, but I watched a lot of media of people talking about it from each side, you know. And on the sort of social justice side, they were saying, well, this is brilliant. This has subverted our expectations.  And I don't want to sound bold, but kind of raping our franchise. Right? Like, the way... Which one? Last of Us 2. Oh, you've got to be specific these days. It's like 17. Yeah, sorry. But so the character of Joel, I understand that people had a great deal of emotional attachment to because he went through quite a lot in the Last of Us 1. Is that correct? Yes. I mean, yeah. He's the guy who's been the whole game with her. And they just... I'd say that, like, your connection with Ellie is... Like, his connection to Ellie is very much, like, kind of mimicked by the player as well. They do a really good job at making her equally endearing to the character around the same points that she'll be endearing to Joel. Yes. I agree. So, what do we make of the trans villain in the Last of Us 2? She's not trans. Oh, my God. Oh, isn't she? No. Oh, my God. She has a sidekick who's trans, but Abby herself is not trans. Oh, yeah. I meant the muscular trans lady. She's not trans. She's not trans, actually. She just really looks trans, though. Sorry. Oh, no. That's racist. That's hard done. That's racist. God, my eyes. They're such racists. But she's one of the golf clubs, Joel to death, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. And that, I understand, was quite traumatic for a lot of people. And I watched PewDiePie playing through it, and so I saw the person. I was like, right. Okay. There was one guy who... I don't know if you actually saw this, but there was a famous clip of a Korean guy that stopped streaming, took out his disc, and got a pair of scissors and just snipped it in half. Yeah. We can worry. You say A-scissors. Oh, my. Sorry, Rags. It's A-scissors.  We've been awake for a little time now. But didn't that guy's father and that guy's father had recently died? Yeah. So it just doubles on the pain because I think he really liked Joel as a character also. That's why it had such an emotional reaction. And I can certainly relate to that. Well, that's because Joel was built up all the way through the first game as a father figure to Ellie. And then in the second game, he got golfed. He got four ironed to death. And what's interesting is that there's a flashback where you're playing as Ellie and Joel taking her to this museum. It's like a really lovely memory. And it's actually like, it's really a great experience to have as someone that's like lost a father. And it's like, you're sort of reliving the experience of like a father figure doing this really great gift for you. And it just goes to show, wow, this is what we could have had for this game. And we got this instead. Well, it's weird, right? Because like, they still managed to... they still seem to understand the relationship they had. They were still able to write that scene, correct? Yeah. I have a theory on it. I have a theory on it. I think that Neil Druckmann was essentially attacking the audience. And what this is, is something that I think we can rightly term humiliation. The term subverting your expectations. And this was the same with Ryan Johnson with his Star Wars movie. It's not about... I mean, don't get me wrong. It does subvert your expectations to see Luke Skywalker absolutely humiliated, drinking alien milk have a titty, and throwing his lightsaber away. But what it is is disgracing the character. It's actively denigrating the character.   We've seen that. We've seen people stirling, and who was it? It was... Yeah, like people, when they figure out that you like Joel, well, first off, they say Joel's a villain. He's evil. He's terrible. He did an outright bad thing.  No, you're not. No, no, you're not, of course. They think you are. It's just the it's the absolutist nature of these people. Oh, if you think this, you're that. No, no. Can we please return nuance to the conversation? The different characters, by the way, that have been assassinated slash disgraced, Joel is probably the most like aesthetic one that in terms of just like, wow, he was beaten to pieces. Like the only way they could really top this now is if someone was thrown into a blender and all their flash just flew out, and be like, yeah, there you go. That about does it. They made sure to have someone spit on his corpse right after he dies, too. I was going to say, like, it's hard to talk what they did in The Last of Us 2. It really is, because obviously... That was the talk of an insert as well, Manny. Luke. The whole thing, like, you know the Call of Duty trailer with Yuri Besmanov talking about demoralization. I think that's kind of, I think it's part of that process. It's a kind of subversive process in order to essentially ruin the moral structure on which the franchise is founded. You know, if you can humiliate Luke Skywalker as the moral pillar of Star Wars, he's the guy everyone wants to be because he's heroic, he learns his lessons, he does the right thing. He redeems his father at the end of it.  And so humiliating Luke Skywalker is also humiliating all of those people who look up to Luke Skywalker. And I think it's the same with Joel. And I think this is done entirely deliberately. And the reason I think that's most obvious in The Last of Us 2 is the Neil Druckmann self-insert having sex with the murderer. That's not his self-insert. But they do say it's not. Yeah, they do say it's not though. But I don't believe it. I don't believe it. It looks just like him. No. Manny's the one that looks like him. Manny's not the one that fucks Abby. Right, okay. But to be fair to you, Sargon, I think you got something there. The only time that Joel actually defends his actions to Ellie is like near the end of the game. Literally the end of the game. Right at the end of the game. Yeah, like I'll do it all over again. He's still not a great defense too. Yeah, he just says like I would still do it though. Yeah, it's quote-unquote defense. Like so many codes. I have to say like it certainly feels like the motivation is what you described there, Sargon. The worst part to me is the fact that they couldn't even have Joel's death feel like the events leading up to it make sense because how they have it happen, I wanted to imagine like a character in a story that's established to always look both ways before crossing a street, right? Yeah. And then one day, he just consciously decides you know that thing that I do where I look both ways before I cross the street, I'm not going to do that.   It's just on me. But you can see that's like like that's railroading, isn't it? That's him using his directorial power to say I don't care if this doesn't make sense I'm going to make this happen and you're going to watch as I do this to your favorite character.   That's the thing. It's because I don't like the people who like this character and you can see it and every time they say all this subverted our expectations that's essentially the sort of package that's underneath it.  This is racist sexist patriarch or whatever it is and we're going to take revenge on you via the media that you like that we've gained control of and it's awful.  What is it? Games aren't supposed to be fun? Yeah, yeah, that's a quote from Neil Druckmann. No, no, yeah, Cutman said we don't do fun.  We don't use the word fun. We don't use the word fun. Yeah, yeah. That is correct. I mean, I believe it when they say it. I think a lot of people believe it now. Yeah, we just said they're like, yeah, I got that. Well, like from a story perspective, I get the idea of killing Joel is to also rally up the player, right? But like everything else, the execution was badly done. Yeah.   Like if someone is unlikable though, she's evil. Yeah, she's sociopathic, I would argue. I remember it's Bobby Kotick as well from MTV that said the goal I had was to take the fun out of making video games.  But why? Because you like them and you're problematic. That's why. Yeah. Exactly.  Like I can watch in fairness. Measurements, units of measurement. What was it? They're like Nazis or something. Yeah. Objective units of measurement. Yeah.  They're like it's like a cross. Nature to our whims and such by confining it to standards of measurement. It's so patriarchal. Yeah, as one does. Well, the thing is if you're critiquing a piece of media on its own terms as the author of it intended it to be critiqued and made from within its own logic, then there's no room for this outside ideological analysis and there's no point to them. And if you're like look, I can do a valid critique from within the rules of the universe and in fact that seems to be a lot more popular than the alternative, then no wonder they're angry. I mean, I don't have to watch.  And it's just like, yeah, but how did it make you feel important part? The thing is that like while it wouldn't be the first like my preferred direction for the story to take if someone was to tell me like if I'm a writer working on a game and the director tells me, okay, this is the direction that the story is going to take, you have to kill off Joel in the first two hours of the game. I'm not going to like it, but I'll try to make it work and I'll try to have it make sense. I'm willing to work within those constraints. What if they said you have to have Manny spit on him? I'd go along with it, but I wouldn't have you try to sympathize with Manny afterwards. You'd have a scene where you brutally chop Manny into pieces, wouldn't you? Pretty much, yeah. Manny likes his daddy, so everything's okay. Yeah. Manny's dad is sick, guys. His dad is sad and he's sad for the death. I think he should feel sorry and he's a ladies man and he likes anime. Isn't he a well-rounded character? Oh, yeah. Don't you like him now? I think it's possible to make a well-structured story based on this premise, but the execution is what really matters in that and this was a piss poor execution but a very unpleasant story. If you're going to do this to your characters, it needs to make sense. Yeah, I would actually say Manny and Manny don't have two separate bunches of the same character. The characters at the start of the game, Abby and her crew, Sans Owen, are completely different to when we take over them halfway through the game. That's a major problem. They don't behave like the way they behave. Now we're going to try and make you like him. Play ball with the doggies. Manny's got a dad and his dad's sick and Manny's a good guy. He also crushes the pussy.  Which is now pregnant. As was the one that told us and he saw it. In the Joel Kill scene, Mel's stomach is flat. I researched this. Someone on Reddit actually made a map. How long would it take for people to travel from Jackson to Washington? That's around at most it will be like 41 days. And by the time you get there, Mel's like almost going to get the baby out of her womb. It's like that big already. And it and you would say that, oh maybe I rewatched the scene. Maybe you could give Mel the benefit to doubt like she has a jacket. Maybe she has a small baby. She's leaving over. But Abby's shop that Owen told her that Mel is pregnant. So I think no one in the group knows that Mel was pregnant in the first place. Like at best she would be in her first trimester around that time. But suddenly she's pregnant. Like almost going to give birth. It's like so contrived for drama. It pisses me off. And it's like to the reveal that they have this lead as to where to find Joel in Wyoming takes place four months before the whole Seattle like the three days in Seattle. Which means that in the four months that have passed since then they traveled to Jackson and then traveled from Jackson. And it was only when they arrived in Jackson where they figured out that Mel was pregnant. And so it's like and I think there's like been three weeks Joel's death when they arrive in in Jackson or in Seattle in Seattle. Yeah. So it's like that's 21 days. Yeah. Yeah. It's insane. She has like a Padme Amidala type pregnancy that just she blows up instantly. And nothing nothing of any interest happened during that journey that they needed to develop the relationship between Ellie. Oh, no, no, no. No, you're supposed to be on their side the moment they do the kiss thing.  So yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. They don't need character development because the Lord of the Rings taught me anything that's it's that long dangerous journey stone effect character character. Um um to most of all, uh, south post saying earlier as well as like, um, the kind of controversial decisions we're dealing with, like again, produce a mind on nothing but just the concern of people buying the game and you're like, yeah, we're going to beat Joel to death the opening like, oh, you better you better make sure everything to do with that is like crystal clear. Right. You need everything to make sense.  People are going to be annoyed as it is.  So I'm well, I'm not getting the idea of a lot of like, I'm not getting the idea of them killing an important character in the beginning using this using the wrong stuff. We're telling them they're doing it wrong. But like what I mean is like and drunken wouldn't listen. Of course he wouldn't. He's a lunatic. But what I mean is like, um, it's not necessarily bad storytelling in my opinion for them to do something like that. Right. It sets up the villain as being really quite awful and I don't know what the ending was. I never I didn't watch until the end. So I mean, if you can get a really big payoff for Ellie getting her revenge in some expensive justice but I'm guessing that didn't happen. Oh, dear. Your expectations to be subverted. Yeah, man. People. My expectations subverted though. Hard work. So what happened is Ellie can't play the guitar anymore. That's the ending of the story. It's worse than that, Sargon.  It's supposed to.  And what? Yeah, you beat Ellie.   And then you switch her perspective from Ellie to Jackson and she said P supposedly and then the guy that is supposed to be like chill about vengeance is haranguing Ellie. Why aren't you taking vengeance? And then she has the idea of taking vengeance against Abby and then you switch back to Abby. Hold on. Hold on.  She's trying for them all to leave Seattle. Even though Abby wasn't dead, he said we've killed enough. This is what we're just going to have to take. Are you okay with that, Ellie? Ellie's like, yeah, it's going to have to be. Yeah, I guess. Yeah.   And Ellie, please kill her for me. Sorry. So you take control of Abby. Abby beats the shower of Ellie.  The guy that wants to leave Jackson and is supposed to be content with just letting things be with what happened suddenly wants to kill Abby. Yeah, he has like the last known location. He's like, I know where she is. And you're like, okay, well, I don't do that sort of thing no more. And the wife is like, yeah, no, no, no, no.  It's going to be great.  And then you finally get to Abby. You have your big boss fight and you let it go. You let her go. You let her go. No, no, no, Ellie lets her go. She has a vision of Joel playing the guitar on the porch. Yeah, maybe I should specify she is tied to like a cross and she's you actually it's not as bad as because I make it sound better than it is. You don't just let her go.    Then you battle to the death. Then you let her go.  The funny thing is, Sargon, you don't even get to control Ellie by that time. Hold on, hold on, hold on. The game commits your options. You can't like use your guns when you find Abby hanging on the cross. You can just walk to her and let her down the cross and lead her to the boat. And then when Ellie She's going down to the beach. She's just going, I'm coming, I'm coming. She just lets her go. Yeah, it's so dumb.  I don't know why you had to walk to somewhere and then decide, oh yeah, I forgot.  She has a backpack full of Molotov cocktails and explosive arrows and guns with at least some ammunition left. Those were Molotov cocktails of peace. He's been in the boat to then engage in a fist fight with Abby. Probably should have mentioned as well. She uses a knife. Part of the reason that Ellie probably spared Abby is because Abby bit Ellie's fingers off.  You consumed me.  You've caused all this trouble.  Oh, by the way, Sargon, her having her fingers bitten off means that she can no longer play the guitar, which her father figure taught her how to do. Yeah, I remember watching it. When you pursue violence, you lose the things that matter most to you. Except for Abby that gains someone else in the process of taking revenge. Has a friend and has a goal afterwards. Good job. Can we just have a moment of silence for Fat Carol, please? Rip Fat Carol. But it really does bring back to the humiliation aspect, right? Because a satisfying payoff would be for Ellie to defeat Abby and then have her little victory speech. You took everything from me. You did this.   Golf clubs Abby, I don't know, whatever. That's the thing. I don't know if like Druckmann is thinking of that or he's thinking he made such a good redemption story. That's the thing I'm bothered. You get me? Like, I don't know if he's thinking of a future. The game that was so good that by time you took over Ellie again for the last hour or so that you would be invested in Abby and you'd be like, no, Ellie, don't do it. Abby's so wonderful. She's so great. She's so awesome. No, no, no.  You know, the problem is, right? Like I said this earlier in the first part of the 36 hours stream, I had 34 hours, right, Mahler? Like in the first part of the first third, in the first third, the problem with this whole Ellie forgiving Abby situation is that I don't think Ellie even saw Abby as a person that can be redeemed. Like everything is happening on the player's perspective. Like the player could determine if Abby is worthy of being forgiven, right? That's a big if and I don't think the game did that. But Ellie as the character, didn't see anything redeeming about Abby at all. And when you're fighting against Abby, she's not really like, I'm sorry I killed Joel. Please forgive me. She doesn't do that. She's just, I don't want to fight. It's not, I don't want to fight. I'm sorry I killed your father. It's more like I don't want to fight because I've been hanging on a cross and I can't fight you. I've lost all my games. What's the source of the desire for Ellie to forgive Abby? Oh, that's the thing.  Yeah. The flash, she gets a flashback of Joel sitting on a porch with a guitar. And that's the moment where Ellie decides to forgive Joel or at least try to forgive Joel. 30 seconds after she had a flashback of Joel's smashed up body which made her want to fight her.  Depending on who you ask, it means different things.  It's like, yeah. He would. Yeah, why wouldn't he kill her? Yeah, it would. Like, another one is like, she's only mad, not because Joel died, but because she couldn't forgive him before they'd ran out of time. And so, you know. Well, I'll tell you what, there's an easy answer to this. Why don't we just ask Joel, oh wait, we can't because you clubbed him to death in cold blood. Well, this is where I mean, like, the point I was going with was just, no matter what scenario you come up with in terms of like, what was convincing her in that moment to forgive Abby, about 90% of the player base was just like, eh?  Yeah, that's what happened. No, I think that's also frustrating because that part of the game is not shown on screen. Like, at that point, she's just hanging on the cross and she's like, beaten down. Well, see, I would be pushing back on this if Abby hadn't been so sadistic when she killed Joel.  You're like, what is wrong with you? And it's worse than that. When she was beating up Dina and she didn't at that point, she didn't know she was pregnant, right?  And then Ellie goes, no, she's pregnant. And then what our sympathetic protagonist says at that point is good. Good. Listen, Sargon, in her defense, her dad did save a zebra. Well, that makes everything okay. Exactly. Pregnant zebra, pregnant. I'm watching the game. This is a word that we used to describe The Last of Us 2 is manipulative. And I've never seen a more manipulative piece of media than The Last of Us 2. In terms of trying to really force you to sympathize with the characters that you want to kill slowly, painfully. No, it's worse than that. It's desperately manipulative. Like, I've been replaying scenes. Mani at some point goes, I like you abs. No, I don't think it's desperate.  Oh, that's possible.  Herculean. Herculean. The tough job of trying to make it feel like you needed to sympathize with her after the fact. So I think they thought that they could do it. No. Okay, I'll change it to insultingly manipulative. It is insulting, absolutely.  I mean, or like Mani at one point says to Abby, I like you abs.  No, no, he says to Abby, I like your abs.  I hate it. The thing about the doctor scene when he's when Abby's like, you know, if it were me, I'd want you to do it.  You're like, so that was the whole goal with that scene. You're like, what happens before that one? It's like, oh, it's when he saves the zebra.  And it's like, not much really. It's really about him saving. It's a whole set piece of him saving a zebra. That's it. And then that means he has character depth. Well, it's just when you pull it apart and you look at it like as a storyboard set or something like I need to see that time in the boardroom where they're talking about the zebra saving scene. They're like, oh, Neil, can we cut this scene? Do we need it? And he's like, well, people might not think he's a good person.  Just to know that scene is actually worse when you think about it more because there is no pressing deadline for them to just get the virus from Ellie's head. Like there is nothing that is hurrying them up, right? Like there is no deadline. The zombie apocalypse has already happened.  Right? Yeah. This is, like I say, it's deliberately insulting. It's deliberately manipulative. And you say, OK, well, what's Neil Druckmann's intention? And you know Neil Druckmann's intention.  He hates things that are normal. And so this is why this whole thing just looks like an attack on the audience itself, which is why, like in the chat, they're like, oh, he's got like two and a half stars on some review site. I'm not surprised.  And that's not his business, is it? Giving himself a hundred brains or something? Oh, because they have to try and rewrite the whole of the one. That's why. Oh, because you feel completely different versus how they attempt to make you feel in this game. So they've got to try and rewrite all your wiring about Joel doesn't work. They've got to try and rewrite how you feel about Ellie doesn't work. And so the whole thing just comes across as so sloppy. Sargon, just to clarify, do you know about the like, are you aware of the fact that they were going to basically this doctor that saved Zebra's in the first game, he was going to basically operate on Ellie's brain, killing her without her consent? No, I didn't. Yeah, they were going to basically in a fatal surgery to try to develop a vaccine for a fungus. Good luck with that, by the way. And they didn't like wake her up to see what she would think about it because she was unconscious when she arrived at the hospital. So it's like, yeah, Joel did nothing wrong and then they then they threw Joel out without his stuff without his weapons. These are the people who are going to altruistically disperse this vaccine throughout the whole of mankind when they developed it. It's a very juvenile understanding of the way the world works to just say, like, oh yeah this vaccine would have just changed everything and saved countless lives. No rags, literally every death that happens after the first game is Joel's fault.  It's just too obvious. Joel's fault. By the way, Sargon, the internet's janitor is actually in the chat for the stream. Oh awesome. Hello me. How's it going? I enjoy your channel. Oh yeah, so are we carrying on with this video then? Yeah, sure, go ahead. Hit that watch together link for anybody who hasn't already. I'm in the last of us too, I mean in the video. He wants to come and defend himself. We haven't even heard his arguments yet. I think we should certainly be open for it. Give him an invite on at some point. I mean, I'm assuming so the video doesn't quite cover the ground he wanted it to, I assume. Well, we'll see I guess. Internet janitors are not instant historians. It's not the argument right here in the video. I'm assuming not. Possibly a holy version. He's confused as everyone else. How can they kill our beloved Joel? I mean, he's on a cover, right? Oh, well, that should have been a dead giveaway that something bad was going to happen early on. But still, I'm very traumatized by this experience. Who could kill our beloved Joel? The man strong enough to do this. Joel's not a beloved character. That's like a defense now. I think we've said this already, but it's not that they killed him. It's the way they killed him. It's the context does not make sense. That's the problem. It's a character established to look both ways before crossing the street. And one day he blindfolds himself and goes and plays in traffic. I think more people would have been surprised if Joel didn't die. I think we kind of saw this coming. That would have been the subversion. Yeah, that would have definitely been the subversion. I think we really kind of saw this coming. But again, it's got to be done with dignity. Makes sense within the context of the story and for the character, et cetera, et cetera. To do this must have been, wait, what? This is your god? A woman? Let me back up a second here. This is going to be the first video game review on the channel, so let's take things a little more seriously. Originally I was going to get my girlfriend to play this game with me. I figured it could be a fun thing for us to do together. When I said we should play The Last of Us 2, I think she heard we should watch This Is Us Season 2. That's a different show where they killed a dad. It was a simple mix up. Anyway, I told her she had to play it or watch me play it. I'm not playing that. I'm not watching you play that. Is that the game where you have to kill dogs? I don't want to play that game.  You're right, baby. The themes of this game could appear to be possibly traumatic to some players. Explores the deepest disturbing parts of human nature at a time when the nation is already in a horrible crisis. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I do find it funny. Well, his jokes do land though. I do like his videos. He's got decent comedy. He is. Like she's a controller. That's a nice touch. That's kind of cute. Timing seems pretty tight. Yeah, the timing's tight. But I... We know that going into this game, it's trying to talk about themes like vengeance and bad. Yeah, it's not really like a surprise or anything. It's expensive, man. Maybe it's second hand because you shouldn't be doing that. Yeah, I have a second hand. That wasn't $50 funny, so I hope it was second hand. Well, maybe this isn't his footage. Maybe this is just some dude breaking a thing you can find on the panel. It could be his. Maybe he didn't like playing through the game. Maybe he didn't like playing through the game. Maybe he didn't like playing through the game. Maybe he didn't like playing through the game. Maybe he didn't like playing through the game. After Joel's death, I had to take a long, hard look in the mirror. Could I continue on playing this franchise? Could I trust the creators to make things right after they wronged me? I came to the conclusion that no, I could not and things would most likely just get worse from here. Which is exactly why I bought this game. You're showing the clip where she's like good. I'm about to slit the throat of a pregnant woman so you'll have these girls first. She's so sadistic at that scene. She's so sadistic at that scene. You see it, right? She looks at Ellie, then decides to face Dina in front of her. It's so sadistic.  It's like, wow, Abby. Our sympathetic female character, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, the nuanced character, guys.  Everyone's allowed their own opinions. That is just awful. That is really awful. Standat is the same version of FIFA every year. I swear, man, some of these YouTubers are fake outrage for views.  This game got so much hate that I mistakenly thought I was out a few months ago based on... Yeah, there's no legitimate reason to be pissed at this game. Absolutely none whatsoever. You're just feigning outrage. It's the whole throw and everyone into one big pile and it's just... You over-generalize and, yeah, sure, everything can be a hive mind, but you got to have evidence for it. Try to play the devil's advocate at least to a decent degree. You got to know that there are counterarguments out there to this type of stuff. People have reasons for why they hate this. Can we just throw the reverse? Oh my God, there are so many hardcore defenders that are doing it for the clicks. Look at me.  Also, why don't they just review the game? Do you feel me, guys? Why do they have to put in other YouTubers into the video? Does that make sense? They seem to be broad generalizations and strawmen about what other people are instead of let me know about what the game is. It's also the base element of trying to lower the people to raise yourself, which normally says you got a weak argument if you got to try and do that shit all the time. I find it interesting as he doesn't name names. Name those names. Don't give me these random generalizations, dude.  Then I can analyze your own statements. That's mean.  So give me some examples. I mean, he showed a montage and he had angry Joe inside of there, so it's like, is that one of them? The funniest thing is that I think angry Joe's rage is legit. He played the first game years ago. He loved it. He was attached to Joel and Ellie and he loved this franchise. A lot of people were. Maybe that's not the guy he was referring to. The names later, I don't know. Yeah, I guess we'll see. I'm going to have a bet that he doesn't. We shall see. People hated it. Then it turned out it was just leaks. My only thought was, wow, I bet those don't do any kind of justice to the real story. But that doesn't matter. This is another argument that people pull all the time. It's just like people made up their minds because they saw the leaks.  I mostly stand by the leaks were better than the season 8 of Game of Thrones result. The leaks when you read them, it was like, okay, that's bad. That's really bad, but it's done. And then you watch it in context and you're like, oh my god. It's somehow much, much worse. And of course we won't be accounting for that demographic. We'll only be accounting for the one that read the leaks and would have enjoyed the game more had they not read the leaks. But the argument would hold up if the sales were really poor. At least it would have some credence. But the sales were massive and so people were clearly not put off by the leaks and wanted to experience it for themselves. No, it's disgustingly massive. Like 2.8 digital sales. Goddamn. Like, I hate it. If some guy on YouTube says it's time to be outraged, the internet mob grabs their pitchforks. What do you mean? Yeah, because it is one.   I don't know.  So that's what's gonna happen. It's like, move on, get to the part where you can either attack or defend whatever the subject is instead of just being like, you know what? You're doing it for clicks. Just because someone told you to hate it. Okay. This video is coming across more contrarian than any fake outrage. What does this mean? I don't see why you can't then you agree with it. Why can't you just throw the exact same criticism back? You're like, you're... You can't. You're doing this, you're doing the counter counter. You'll be like, oh, I see all of you getting angry. I'm gonna be the one to get the clicks on the counter to the angry. You can just reverse the logic. There's nothing wrong there. Although internet mobs don't actually look like this, they look like this and this. But when the game came out it's an internet mob. It's an internet mob, yeah. Hey, Jeremy. Jeremy's here, guys. Jeremy finally made it to eFap 100. Yeah. And this. But when the game came out massive failure of storytelling massive failure in storytelling. A terrible storytelling. Where's the lie? How's he wrong? He's repeating. Yeah, he's right. This story is garbage. There's a punchline to this montage. Failure of storytelling. Failure in... He hasn't played it, has he? It's not yet. Nope. No, I mean he hasn't. That's my guess. Jeremy hasn't played the game. Oh, oh. He hasn't either, but I've watched him play it. I was going to say that doesn't disqualify the potential still. Yeah. You could watch the cutscenes. Well, I watched all of Muller's playthrough. Oh, but that means your opinion of the game is it's valid. I'm not playing the game. I have to play it. I watched all of the content. Well, yeah, that's all you need to do. If you watch all of the content, then you know all you need to know about the story. I think we discussed this before, but the only thing we weren't on would be, like, game feel. Game play. I played it when Drink Rats me, because I appreciated that I have to feel, I have to get the feeling of the game, the feeling of actually playing it as opposed to just watching it. This is one of those things you see people do the whole, oh, like, take what happened with Jeremy saying about the story being terrible, and he's highlighting, oh, he said he's not playing the game, because why would you see dollars for this shit? And he says, I've watched all the content on it. All right, like me, I haven't played the game, haven't paid for it. I watched an entire play through of it that someone else did. I am totally qualified to talk about the story of this game without playing it. Kind of a small brain maneuver to say that that's contradictory.  You just don't have the same hands-on experience with the game. Yeah, I'm not going to comment on the aspects of mechanics and stuff. But you could. Well, yeah, it depends on what they are. Yeah. Like if I see a mechanic being implemented poorly or inconsistently, then that's one thing. You can comment on the AI, for example. Yeah, absolutely. The AI is it is Galaxy Brain AI. Special AI. Super. You've got a point. You don't want to comment on the handling of the game, the feel of the controls and stuff. You haven't directly played it. But if you're talking about the story, you don't perfectly qualify for the judge as anyone else. It did seem that he was very specifically talking about the story. Yeah.  We watch films. Yeah. We don't play films. We watch films and we're perfectly qualified to discuss the story in the film. Even though we didn't get into the cockpit of the X-Wing and blow up the Death Star. Maybe use it to change context. Hey, I know exactly what it feels like. I will have you know. Because I watched the movie. Ay-ay-ay.  This guy wants everyone to know that as a film student he can assure us that the game is bad. This guy agrees with them as credentials are he owns over 2600 movies. This person said the last of us two was a horrid mess. The movie gets to the actual argument soon. No. Guys, this is worse. We could also do the same argument against him. You're just some random guy on YouTube. Why should we listen to you? Does that make sense? More importantly, in what way are these not valid criteria for being a judge of movies and storytelling? Being a film student, having a massive film library. If you're going to be an expert or you're going to have a pretty legit qualification, I think. They're making me more likely to listen to you. The arguments stand on their own, but it does make me more interested, I suppose, to hear what you have to say. Even though I think a film basically means I'm up for hearing the arguments even from someone who's never seen a film before. Let's tackle these arguments. The pseudo deep messaging only a person with an inflated ego about themselves with Thing is amazing and characters were an awful representation. Where's the line? They have to release the line. Incredible and brilliant. You've got to use the same argument on those people as well, surely. But because it's one way, because it's negative, suddenly that demonizes it. Can he just get to his arguments, please? His arguments are basically his people read the leaks. No, no, no. All he's doing is priming the audience. Look at all these guys who are talking about this game. You can find the reverse all over the place. Yeah, exactly. You can do the reverse. It's disingenuous. Is that a proper word? Yeah, yes. Disingenuous, yes. So tweet it out, Joel are better. We all deserve better.   People definitely got upset by it. Not a surprise.   But if we're upset that he did it, we're bad? I don't feel bad. This is the guy that put himself in the game as a collectible card, and his IQ is like 10 over 10? When his tweet was sent out, this game had not even been released for 15 hours. It's a 25 hour long game. Is it wrong? Well, just tell me if it's wrong. No, that's what he's saying is that you have to experience the whole 25 hours to even make a reasonable statement about the game. I think that's what he's saying. 15 hours, that means they've consumed the scene. Does that argument still apply to having to watch at least three hours of a live stream on Jane Nicholson's Joker review before you can come to a conclusion about that live stream? Oh no. Oh my goodness.  How dare I by asking people to be consistent? Oh my god.  I'm asking a lot. Calm down. I used to be a janitor at a university, and sometimes I try to complete the math equations whenever one was gone. Now I'm no Ivy League mathematician, but I'm pretty sure those numbers don't add up.  Oh, we did a thing. Oh, some certain crazy people out of millions who bought the game. Everyone agreed. Everyone rallied behind her and was like, Yeah. One guy or some people out of millions and millions who bought the game, they said some mean things to a voice actor.  It's very important that you guys know this. This is gonna become a trope. Like, this just gets thrown in all the time. A voice actress or an actress or an actor, whatever. People said mean things to them. You're like, alright, that's bad.  It's just like a bonus to make the anti-side look worse. This is on your team, right? And it's like, do we go over in part one or part two of the stream where it was one of the people who shat on Laura Bailey was someone who was actually pro last of us two? I think that was the first. I think that was the Jim Sterling one. I think so, yeah. This is the thing.  Just find me the person who says absolutely we need to harass the voice actress for her choices to voice act this character.  We have many millions of people who bought the game and I don't even know how many more who know about the story because you sure as hell don't have to play the story to get everything you need from it. It's just law of averages that in that group of millions and millions of people there will be a couple shitheads. What do you want me to do? They come from all sides. Why are we responsible for something someone else has said? It's just trying to prime you against an audience. I wouldn't want to claim that's the goal. You don't like the game and therefore you have a commonality with them Ergo, you must feel exactly the same way as them.  Go talk to that person about it. It's not my business, not my problem. This group of people who don't like the game, they're highlighting the worst of the millions and millions and millions, the couple people who did this. I wanted to clarify as well. When I was playing the game, after the Joel scene I think that's when my brain started getting pissed and I started thinking about how everything came together and started criticizing it.   How long does it take to be annoyed at TLJ?  The mom joke.  I can infer these things through my own experience as a rational actor who has had experience in the world. If I know certain things about a product then I can already establish whether I'm going to enjoy that or not. I don't have to literally consume the entire thing before I can make a judgement. So we got a meal that's pristine created by the greatest chefs of all time but there's also a little turd in there.  And they go, yeah but you haven't tried the rest. They're like, no I'm commenting on the turd. This is turd. Maybe you'll find the turd better if you eat the potatoes. No? You haven't even finished the meal. I didn't even try to solve it.  The voice actors actually played the game though. We can just give them all the benefit of the doubt. There's not just a few instances of this. I've been up day and night clitting this word, vomit up. So I did something that a lot of YouTubers and Twitter users told me not to do or wouldn't do themselves. I played the game. This isn't just a review about playing The Last of Us 2. This is a review about one. Very brave of you. People are welcome to recommend or not recommend a game. I don't see what relevance that even has. Yeah, go for it. It's like the play The Last of Us 2 when you live in a country that is falling apart. Can you just put that whole sentence together please? After hearing non-stop this game is just a woker event story. Is he inferring America is just falling apart? Yeah, I think he said that. I suppose it depends on your definition. How broad are you on the riots? Literally, you guys are coming really close to a civil war. Nah. You are. I'm certain. You are. It's really bad. I'm British, so I'm not. What happens in America ends up coming to the end. It's a different crisis here. Well, I'm ready.   They go to Portland in places. Doggo, take down the gun. The police don't do anything and there's no guns and stuff. Doggo with a gun. Calm down, rags. I wasn't even me. That's no one else. Rags, take the whiskey. Stop drinking whiskey. Put the pistol away. It's an AR-15. It's not a pistol.  Oh my bad. It's an AR-15. Sorry. It's my bad for assuming that you have a pistol. Firearms gender. So I'm going to tell you what, it's going to be no civil war because you got these Antifa writers that are saying to themselves we need to be paid for writing.  They're going home. We're not going to make it across the ocean. You guys are going home. Well, I hope you're right. Are we doing bigot sandwich? Oh, bigot sandwich. This was my favorite thing. Non-stop, this game is just a woke revenge story. My expectations were so low going into this game. I thought the story that was happening was the guy that called Elias Slurr poisoned her sandwich. I thought the whole game was going to be about a poisoned sandwich. I would have preferred that. That would have been a way better story. Who's the bartender guy? What's his name? If you don't know, Seth calls Dina What's this? A dike. A loudmouth dike, which I just say is redundant. Just say dike. He's very very... He said he was drinking and he goes to her later and says I'm super sorry. I didn't mean to say that. It was my bad. In order to make this up to you and to go on this dangerous journey, I made you these steak sandwiches. Steak sandwiches. A very valuable commodity in the post-apocalypse is cow meat, I would imagine. That's valuable now. He gives this to her. He says I'm sorry. Take these. They're very valuable. I hope you come back safe and sound. I hope none of that happens to you. She just doesn't take them. She calls them bigot sandwiches. I'm like man, Seth just can't get a break. I think the next game should be about Seth going on a quest for revenge against Ellie. He was flipping out. We're not accepting his apology, and I think that the game should be titled The Last of Us Part 3, Revenge of the Seth. Well, there we go. Sargon, it's worse. Because you see Seth calling her that word like 20 hours into the game. At that point, Ellie and Abby have killed so many people.  It's quaint. It's nothing. It's the middle of a zombie apocalypse, isn't it?  Oh, bitch, come on, we're dying out here. Like, fuck's sake. I want the scene where Seth has a hallucination of his dead father and through that hallucination Seth forgives himself. Dude, I want Seth to just hallucinate the savage. It's just floating. The savage says, you know what, I was too good for her anyway. Well, Seth goes to bed drunk, and he has a dream about his father saying there's only two kinds of people here. Stayos and queers.  People are mostly hoping for a sort of a DLC with the trio, the Joel, Factoril and Seth, some sort of adventure there. Maybe they can go and cure everything for everybody and get all of the things. The sum of us. Tommy Factoril and Seth. Robo Joel as well. Resurrection. Yeah, Robo Joel as well. Yeah, fair enough. Is that the plot of the game? That's the plot of the game? He poisoned the sandwiches and he killed that guy. The whole game is about poisoned sandwiches. Look at this baby move.  That looks like a real freakin' baby. Alright, that was cool. Make the baby do the trick again. I said make that baby do that trick. He dragged it out, dude. It's over. Alright. Hey, let him have his joke.  He's having fun. Yeah, yeah. There's a joke and no one laughs Have you heard of Wayfair Cabinets? If a joke falls over in a f-word. Yeah, yeah. Then we'll get the whole Wayfair Cabinets. I'll try to get the end of this. It takes a while to get there, but that's kind of it. I give it seven thumbs. I'm not saying if they're up or down. Seven thumbs. Graduate Naughty Dog and release in a game where there was more outrage over the size of a woman's biceps than their mistreatment of them. Is there anything? I don't know.  I'll do it. I'll be outraged about the size of a biceps. I'll do it. I'll fall on the grenade here. I think that it's just not as average as most women are. I'm sorry. I'm outraged. Well, I never say it's likely from March 15th. Yeah, it's slightly more muscular than the average woman. And that's it. I'm out. The reason why it's even more ridiculous is every flashback with Abby she has a normal body and then when it goes to current day, suddenly she's super modern. Super-sized Abby. So we don't understand. There's no story to explain. You can't just say her dad died so she decided to put on some muscle. I would have preferred that. They didn't even do that. This is what I mean. It was like she clearly did it to get revenge on Joel thanks to her dad's death. Why didn't you put that in the game? Why wasn't there a scene? There's evidence against that. Wouldn't you want to be quicker? Wouldn't you want to be lighter? You're getting zombies that are charging at you. You don't want to be weighed down by muscle mass. Muscle mass actually makes you quicker. Well, you can be lean and have muscle and not be bulky and have muscle. I mean, you'd have to be really absurdly bulky for your muscles to be slowing you down. I think the idea here is it's not one of those huge issues. The game fails in a variety of ways that have nothing to do with Abby's ginormous size. It's the idea that in this setting I vowed I would be outraged by her muscles. I'm not stopping you.  From the few pieces of information I'd gathered while I was trying to stay in secrecy mode where Naughty Dog did meany things to their work as Joel Dead. I knew Joel Dead. Joel Dead was everywhere. And Abby's... I don't remember if Abby's arms came close to those two. Those two are just the things to be remembered. It's just a weird thing to do when she's been normal in every cut scene and then something she's seen precisely. It's just a weird why. And there's no explanation. And so I think it's valid to ask why. And when we look at this article it is from March 15th of 2020. So a fair amount of time has passed between this article and the conditions at Naughty Dog and the release of the game and the time difference there in between. But also the way that sympathy and empathy work is generally it's not the magnitude, it's the proximity.  Also I want to highlight, this wouldn't be necessarily highlighting that people are more outraged over freaking arms than this. You could just be highlighting the fairness of this problem. Like they haven't been alluded to it. We would have to be assuming that they were both equally aware of these two things. And some people just might not have even gotten them. I mean one YouTuber makes a video about the incredible size of Abbey and hundreds of thousands of people could hear about it through YouTube and the way it spreads. But if one YouTuber didn't make a video about the work conditions at Naughty Dog that you wouldn't have even ever known it's not that they necessarily didn't care it's that they didn't even know to care and that's not their fault because they weren't told. Employees. Probably one of the most innovative and exciting features that Naughty Dog added was a dedicated jump button. Something called jumping. Another great thing about this game is Ellie's a lot more intelligent. Funny. Yeah it was funny. Yeah. Jump button. And ruthless. Of course when Joel was captured she was supposed to be doing patrol so the only person who could have saved Joel in time was Ellie. Who was on crack! Just like the originals, levels have a flow-like state to them. Anyone who says they got lost while playing this game is thinking too hard about it. The entrance to the next location isn't in some secret underground. You would think that thinking too hard would help you get through faster. That was insane. That's a weird one. But alright. That's odd. That's an uneven one. I have an notoriously horrible sense of direction. My thing is to ignore all logic and just follow my gut and keep bulldozing forward. That's how I drive on the highway and that's how you're supposed to play this game. That's also how Ryan Johnson writes the scripts. That's how you play games. You just run and hope. I don't think that's a compliment to the design honestly. Yeah I don't know. The thing is when you're in a scenario where you're in a city and then normally in real life it should be intuitive where to go because you have signs and you know how buildings work and you know stairs and elevator shafts and things. This is this familiar territory unless you have buildings as family members that's all good then. But this should be familiar territory that you can use to navigate the terrain. Ideally in game design if you have these kinds of maps just intuition because of your experiences with buildings. Internet historian didn't think about it and he got stuck. How do you explain that? Checkmate. Case closed. Just guess which way is forward and go that way and you're probably going the right way. The funny thing is the way I play I need to know which way is the way to avoid it so I can actually search all the things I want to search and then I accidentally fall in a cutscene and I want to kill myself. When you're searching right the game tells you where to go.  It's like do you need help? You're like no I'm really not. Exploring. If you're trying to explore it keep saying click this button to show where you go.  Is it part of playing and enjoying the game exploring around and seeing what you find? Apparently. I would imagine you could change it off at least there would be that. I don't know if that is a thing. I would assume it is.  It's just a few planks. Just push them down. No.   The red door is probably one of the worst ones. It just locks and you can't get back. Like okay I guess that's done then. Yeah I think I mentioned it while we were discussing it earlier. I might have just been talking to you after I was watching your stream. If you're in an urban environment like this and there's a million ways to go a million ways and you see these tiny little obstacles that you know you could just jump over or I could just move this plank over to get through it is annoying when you see kind of lazily created and thought out pathing designs in these games. I should be able to get through there. Yeah. Use my aim. One of my more well known videos Top 7 Dumb Disney Star Wars Moments. I made that just because I was so upset about the last Jedi. I thought it was a soulless piece of woke garbage and rumor has it even George Lucas himself agrees with me on that. Oh well they attacked Kelly Trun so you're part of the problem aren't you? I have a feeling he's being ironic here. A lot of people are comparing this game to the last Jedi. The last of us part 2 sounds like it should have been called the last Jedi. Very fitting comparison. Yeah I think it's fitting. They're very similar. The reasons people are upset are very similar to one another. The characters of a woke twat who are like I'm going to ruin the characters in the franchise you love on purpose. Yeah no wonder they got the comparison. Is this guy walking to math classrooms across America and he's like people are comparing 2 plus 2 plus 4 to 1 plus 1 equals 2 and they're saying it's like the other thing but it's just one more dialogue. For clarification right. Damage to Will building plotline that's absolute bonkers nonsense none of it makes any sense. Assassination of legacy characters in the way shape or form. They're going to compare it. But also deliberately twisting the motivations and characters of the actual character of important characters that are beloved. This is not accidental that they're doing this. And then dismiss all of the people that are criticizing it. Misogynistic. Honestly it's kind of weird. It's almost like it was tailor made for comparison.  But the responses are mostly the same.  Yeah you're not doing something clever by recognizing a very fair comparison that a lot of people are noticing you know giving an opinion on the last Jedi all over again. I understand why I titled this video the last Jedi of video. Yeah so many cameos. Oh boy.  I mean yes is the lie as they say. Yeah. Can you give us some arguments? Oh it's not. Bad take. Very bad take. I feel like this is the beginning of the video now he's like he's taking his stance now he's going to explain it. Here we go. Now I'm going to go on record and state these are just my opinions and you're free to have your own. Thank you. Hey shields up. Everyone say it too this is just our opinion. Everything I say is an opinion so please no bully.  You're free to agree with my opinion. It's my opinion. I'll be right back. Wow. I'm in the comments. I'm not even going to ask you to keep it civil. You can be as horrible and all. Yeah don't be nice. I stay to him though. Just take your opinion. He actually seems like he's a pretty good sport from the messages I've been exchanging with him. He wants to come on after we finish this. So I think that you know he deserves some leniency there. To me and each other. Don't forget to smash that dislike button. I've been watching this guy since he had like 10,000 subs and I really quite like his channel even if I don't necessarily agree with his takes right. So it's it you know there's no personal animus in my opinion behind any of it. Wait is it rags you. I think he had to go pee. That was the one that I called fry a tuck. I know. We should we should wait for rags then. Rags. Yeah honestly it's like I don't want to have him feel like we're all going to be ganging up on him and like acting all hostile towards him. However if like he's going to insult the people that he that disagree with him in this video it's like you kind of threw the first shot. I mean if he's down for that sort of thing. I mean if he's down for that sort of thing. Yeah I mean if he's down for some good old fashion trash talking I mean we can give as we receive. So this is interesting should we get some elevator music going? No. The funny thing about this chat and everyone else Sargon also like this is one of the people that are as strong as Ellie or even stronger and on her side of the team like her the Washington Liberation Front he's the only one that looks like her like ripped. Literally nobody stronger than Ellie in the universe. Rags this is the one I was saying looks like Friatuck or at least kind of Friatuck It's a girl.  Oh my bad. My question is that you can buy the Friatuck outfit as a woman and wear it. I do have to say it's a little weird that these seraphite brutes don't get nearly as much attention about like realism as Abby does. I think that they took it just as much. Yeah I thought they were hilarious. That was even weirder from the Adams family.  Like literally Uncharted 3 had these types of enemies too. Loads of them. It's just... No I'm just saying that this person reminds me of Lurch. Lurch at the adjacent. Yeah. It's a compliment. Point I'm trying to make is I never claim to be an expert in anything. I'm just a janitor. But the thing about the janitors of the world is we get to give you the everyday man's opinion. We all know what the angry YouTubers are saying. You have your smart YouTubers. Wait so the angry YouTubers aren't everyday people? The angry YouTubers aren't smart just because you're angry doesn't mean that you don't have an intelligent take on people. If you want to categorize smart, angry and everyday I'm just wondering what the cross section is like. Well there's clearly a bar to entry to being a YouTuber. I'm joking there's not.  Yeah yeah yeah obviously there's not. Which explains so much about YouTube really doesn't it? Yes. You're joking. I love how the dumb guy explanation is going to come from someone that likes the game and explains everything. Hey, well has he made any comments that put himself above people yet because it could be 4D he's like yeah I'm dumb but all of you are even stupider. I mean it's almost true. That's very possible. I'm almost halfway through this video and I'm really curious to see you know it feels like a disclaimer right now. It doesn't feel like he's making any arguments or building a point. This is it. We finally made it. This is the actual part of the video That was the preview. That was the journey. Everything has come to this point. So I figured the dumbest way I could break down this review was to explain it in Star Wars terms. I thought that was fitting because the people that act like they're too smart for Star Wars are the same people that think they're too smart for this game. So generally the Hold up hold up hold up Generally the people who are considered super smart galaxy big brain they're not the people who hated the last guy. Like I gotta be honest the ones who are like you don't understand the messaging in TLJ you don't understand what this game How many times have we heard If you wanted to kill Abbey you didn't get the point of the game.  This is a brains 100 game for brains 100 gamers like myself. It seems to me that the big brains are the ones who are writing Star Wars and trying to subvert our expectations and make us hate things like it seems that that's what it seems to me. I mean Neil Druckman's got that 100 brain IQ card whatever that is. I feel like the evidence is bound to good. I mean I mean Druckman says that he's brains 100 but really he's IQ 100. So he's average. Exactly. That's Lee mediocre. Wow racist. I mean he's brain jolted Luke. In Star Wars, Luke is almost the murder of his nephew and the foundation of his character is backpedaled so far that the franchise starts to completely fall apart. No that wasn't Lee that's fake Skye that's fake. So formatting here we're gonna talk about how the Last of Us 2 is strong by comparing it to the last Jedi I assume Interesting. I dare not assume at this point. I thought we were just gonna talk about what's strong about it as opposed to like this was bad Last of Us 2. It's fine. Formats. You're ugly.   Give me $200. The sequence of events gets more confusing the more Disney tries to explain it. This is the big event that sets everything into motion because it was badly written.  So when he said this is the big event that sets everything in motion I'd be like oh you mean like Joel's death sets everything in motion for the whole game unless the big event that sets the sequel in motion was Palpatine not dying because he controls everything along the way even Snoke. Kylo who controls the first order Moller I'd be interested if he actually realizes the narrative problems that Joel's death has as opposed to him acknowledging the narrative problems that they did to Luke. I think that would be interesting. We'll see. There's no question now behind every character's actions makes zero sense. In the last of us two Joel mistakes saving someone's life with being able to trust them who what Joel mistakes saving someone's life for being able to what trust them if you save someone's life you should instantly trust them is that what he's saying he's saying that Joel mistakes saving someone's life for being able to trust them does he do that? With Abby he thinks that she owes her therefore he can trust her because she's in his debt. I already don't believe Joel would do that so we're out. So we have the situation in the first game Sargon where Ellie is having to fend for herself in the snowy wilderness she runs into a stranger stranger is from a camp that has medicine she needs to get medicine for Joel because Joel's injured stranger's friend runs off to get the medicine and then while they're alone together the zombies come and they have to fight off this horde together that stranger later turns out to be the leader of a camp of cannibals who Joel and Ellie killed a ton of like three weeks before so there's this whole experience where Ellie fights off a bunch of zombies with a stranger and they see each other's lives constantly but then it turns out afterwards that oh he actually has a vendetta against her and Joel and yet same exact situation occurs in the second game and they haven't learned from Ellie's experience from the first game.  So you're on it, I'd like to prosecute my client and add to the argument Prosecution, what you're telling me is that the character is more defensive than ever and more aware of danger is that correct?    I haven't read it because it's Cyrillic in a while something jeal jeal jeal jeal this is what sleep deprivation sounds like I'm hiding it better rags now we're getting to the letters I know rags Superman can become sick on Krypton or with Kryptonian diseases so do the Kryptonians have like Krypton like Kryptosophilis yeah but Krypton was destroyed so surely all of its diseases are destroyed too no all of the particles were spread throughout the universe all like each planet collected one though this is our lost chance against the Superman if he used to come here it's like every planet in the universe got a Kryptonian disease I don't know what Earth's is maybe Earth's is oh my gosh maybe that's the FBI they didn't actually invent crack to kill the black people that's actually a Kryptonian death disease that came to to Earth and it just happened to hit a black person first I don't know I'm not saying it's true I'm saying it's possible I'm not even saying it's possible because you have to demonstrate possibility I'm saying it could it might be possible you don't know if it's not true so well I'm not asserting that it's true but it's not not true I don't know that I don't even know if it's possible dude we spent like 7 or 8 hours or some shit on that first gym sterling video that wasn't that was a terrible one that was really bad like I had to he starts just getting so insufferable that I had to take him off of all my recommendations I just told YouTube you had to get him off your screen once again I've said this in the past I'll say it again everything you said was in the past people keep I'll say it again you know people keep telling me that Jim Sterling is this really smart guy I have yet to understand why well who's who's on the roster who said that he was deaf it was Aiden right she said he was smart I can't agree that's the thing about intelligence is that sometimes it's hard to tell an unwise smart person who just knows things but they don't know how to apply that knowledge that's true that is a good way of putting it honestly I feel I feel like I'm lucid enough to no no that really does make sense because yeah these I'm going and those are the sounds of the pearls of wisdom that are dropping from my mouth I mean I know that he said a lot of things about the anti-consumer practices and gaming companies and shit but it's like are you really smart for regurgitating what like a thousand other people have said far more intelligently and eloquently I think he got in early he was around really early he was around and he wasn't nearly this bad I don't have a remembering remember him being this bad he never that video was like it was really funny that no you were able to even call some wrestling to some zone crazy no way also for the just for this ending right I'm going to try and reorganize intro the first galactic park forever who's she no first galactic why wouldn't move properly stop being we may we may have more people coming I'm going to try and fit them on the screen you know it's getting crowded probably no normal it's happening not social distancing anymore it's getting crowded there could be as many as three more people on the way wedge between two ha you're in for it now here we go jay just as I'm not mine jay jay jay listen to jay if you haven't watched the lord of the rings in the past oh no jay have you watched the lord of the rings trilogy I don't understand why I do that so you don't die dude this is what it comes to the lord of the rings gang is going to you know I would have been disappointed to have been watched without you never invited me so I assume you hadn't watched it yet why is there someone with come on their face in the group chat no shut up no chat didn't know about that because I the chat are all going to have like shifty eyes now no those are those are tier those aren't those are metal tiers they're not like they're it's blue it's do you think serfs come blue that's white the crypto come who the f who's gliders on the fucking so this is a cave bowl this is someone who makes videos about how game of thrones is shitty what is your picture it's not a line I know what a line is it's almost a line it's a line with two arrows here's the thing about being like almost a line I feel like it's a really all or nothing proposition when it comes to being a line I'm sorry I don't know much about you but you strike me as a kind of person who thinks that straight and level mean the same thing I assure you that is not the case I'll believe you what does that mean I mean it's actually where my name comes from gliders actually no I'm an idiot I trust a lot of people there's some people I don't trust and people who don't can't make sense of their own icons they're not trustworthy people they're not trustworthy people well it's good to be here hello there we got some time I didn't clock it in actually it's like an hour and a half or something before we finally close down this wondrous occasion of eFAP in for a hundred hours in a row that's totally what happened 100 days you mean 100 someone only walked first two in the last two hours we're going to eFAP every single day for a whole year and not ever stop some people were like oh the better eFAP 10 billion hours it's like no that is great can't be this there would be people who would manage to keep up to date with that well yeah the eFAP.me site is still incredible like the live reporting on eFAP it's like the fuck is that still going speaking of the light of the eFAP website I've been asked to give shout outs to hang on who's hang on and fuck head met wall and kibbutkins kibbutkins yeah kibbutkins yeah kibbutkins head met wall is the timestamp aficionado and kibbutkins is the creator of the website the website that has so many different pieces of functionality it surprises me every day oh yeah one of the most talented people in our whole community it's kind of amazing well let's do the thanks we got all the meme people who made the giant meme all that stuff will be coming out soon as soon as well when I wake up so I hope trust me though we got a lot for you let's get I'm going to get these names let's do it meme repository creamy sheave palpatine zed e-man gameplay spook amusing moose plagued creations with phoenix sorus rex samuel kim music credits music lil potato thaws habba goga omega ridley thubdale artist seriously that meme is glorious there's no amount of appreciation that can be said for it we go over this when you see the reaction thank you for that shit tonald saw it before he came on by the way I saw the clip where he talked about it just like 20 minutes ago seriously it was really nice the tonal section was something else there's no way it's going to describe when I was lying down in bed like oh man dude same look at everyone getting drunk I watched a wrestling life and I had like more drinks it's like oh man I'm sleepy I'm going now and I look on my phone it's like oh man bastards the tonal I have to go back and re-listen to that I'm going to watch this tomorrow while I'm at work I was fucking up by then tomorrow it would take more than all of tomorrow to listen to all of this again yes oh rax are you doing the thing where you've been up for really long and you're dying I'm not feeling normal I've been up for a while I've been really focused I've been really focused on a lot of stuff I still feel focused I still feel like I'm zoned in that last video really felt like I ran out of my capacity to respond to arguments the toy story review yes the toy story series one two and three review that was that's where my mouth spitting mad facts absolutely no chance of recovery from those tisms but this has been fun you have another hour don't you oh it's longer than that let me have a look can someone get a calculator please and I'll read out tisms I can't be trusted we got 11 hours well 11 27 13 that's 11 minutes plus 11 28 30 plus 11 28 30 and then we've apparently been live for something like 522 27 you want me to add that 522 27 add them all up take them away from 30 000 522 27 that was yeah that was the last one so I didn't really throw in like decimals or anything like that what we have now is 277 77 3 is this an English can you translate those numbers into word thoughts yeah I'm having trouble with that one it's word thoughts because when you talk to people it's really just reverse mind reading yes of course so it's so easy okay you gotta add that to that what did I say let's call it 523 now that'll be easy there you go add them all together you get 43's on the end that's easy then oh my god look at those numbers how am I going to add them together what is mass it's like an hour and a half left or so plus 11 18 carry the one 22 23 28 that's one and a half I was just figuring out how long we're going to stream just type enough things for the come to go away just over one hour 20 minutes and that pushes me to I'll probably round it up which means 7 27 I gotta go to 9 o'clock 9 p.m my time that's when I will end so there's a guarantee that'll be an hour and 33 minutes how many longer hour and 43 33 no 43 moist noice come young an hour and 43 oh that only yeah according to the math that only just does it so that's fine all we're going to do is beat 29 those losers from last year getting blown out as long as we spend an extra second to check out then we're good there you go chair we did the nasty image of the come I think it was probably gaviscon that's what they're using the porn industry they can't get come they use gaviscon apparently I don't think com is that how to find especially if you're in the porn industry like look there's some right there in the corner pick it up you're welcome that's some hand lotion thank you if you hover over it it says so speaking of come chat is going is going crazy for a chuck tingle by the looks of things oh my god that would be full circle the last time we too were to crawl together what if at 50 and had to listen to that story memories that's good you won't anyway but it's up to you guys if you want well this is the only way that's going to make the time pass dare I say it's up to chat I think we're going to get all yeses we got some nor I think it will make the time pass more slowly wait well what is your manager what would we do I think we allow this all right it looks like we're left it's funny if anyone else drops into this call she was a long time can't fire your manager that's not how that works I hope you drop into this call during this not if it's a band manager a band can do whatever the fuck they want they just need to get a new manager are you a band yes I thought oh shit wait also I'm probably going to be able to get through all of the avatars before the end of this stream that sucks stop staring at me what oh stop looking I'm trying to look at okay all right I guess do I take it away is that what's happening I don't know I guess so at this point you're so sleep deprived you could stop me very well is everyone sitting comfortably yes come all right so given ifap you like the avengers movies don't you no no well I like some of them I like some of them too did you like endgame did you like endgame I liked endgame I want to like endgame you're in there I liked it to a certain extent then time travel came and I didn't like it of course of course and a lot of people were disappointed weren't they because there was a meme last year about if only ant man had just climbed up his arse and expanded that would have blown up Thanos and killed him well thankfully Chuck tingle has thought about this premise and really gave it some thought so I have for you some names have had to be changed due to copyright reasons because of Disney so Thanos is Thanos ant man is ant guy but you get the gist of it obviously to avoid any legal repercussions so today I shall be reading avengers butt game ant guy gets small to go into Thanos' butt and then gets big and hard from two time Hugo Ward finalist not winner but finalist Chuck tingle so that would be what I'm eating today maybe this will be the one maybe this will be the one didn't someone also message Chuck tingle to say that his stuff has been spoken about on eFap and he took to it quite well didn't he I'd hope so I'll get him on okay is everyone ready for some Marvel avengers themed gay debauchery I'm not ready for you getting us whatever it is okay let's begin is everyone ready at this point for some people listening on loudspeakers in their office this is a headphone moment I think we can agree run away turn the bullet way up broadcast to your nearest bluetooth speaker it doesn't even matter if it's in a different room to you better if it's in a different room to you preferably if it's in a different house than you if you can connect to someone else's device do it now there was once when I worked at dominoes someone connected their phone to the TV in the lobby and they played porn on it and we couldn't figure out which one it was because we can't just go out and be like alright which one he's doing it okay here we go revengeers butt game and guy gets small to go into thamos's butt and then gets big and hard here we go it's been a long time since I've had any duties as a superhero and to be honest I've kind of enjoyed the vacation granted I wish the circumstances behind my long hiatus were better but part of moving on in this brand new world is accepting the fact that we failed for a lot of the heroes I work with this has been the hardest part when you've been doing the job for as long as me and most of my contemporaries you start to notice a pattern mainly the fact that we never seem to lose it's not like there aren't a few close calls but it's the nature of superheroes to come out on top when all the dust settles and the smoke clears I suppose that's what makes us who we are and what must frustrate the hell out of any villain who happens to cross our path that is, until we met thamos a purple skinned dinosaur more powerful than any foe we've ever seen when this intergalactic warlord showed up I had a feeling I might be stepping out of my depth I'm pretty good at what I do but my powers just don't stack up when compared to the rest of my peers iron butt has a mechanical suit that makes him irresistibly handsome thorn has a hundred times the strength of any mere mortal and then here I am with the power to shrink and grow at will it's fun and convenient sometimes but it also doesn't serve much purpose in the heat of battle oh and I also get along very well with ants giving me the name ant guy of course rarely do heroes get to pick and choose their abilities oh hang on you killed jerry what of course rarely do superheroes get to pick and choose their abilities and I try to remain thankful for what I have instead of seething with jealousy as a member of an international superhero team the revengeers I try my best to fill in strategic holes wherever I can always doing my part in some small way the battle against thamos was all hands on deck a who's who of superhero how he's speaking this really shit a who's who of the superhero world all joining together using their powers to defeat this ultra powerful titan from some distant end of the galaxy we put up a hell of a fight but at the end of the day there was nothing we could do thamos completed his evil master plan clapping his muscular buns together and erasing half of all sentient creatures from existence here on earth things basically shut down we probably could have made it work with half the population still around but at that point nobody could master the emotional strength the whole world was just too devastated to push onward as though nothing happened people quit going to work and the sound of laughter stopped ringing out through the streets all together thamos may have destroyed half the population but the spirit of everyone was crushed under the weight of his actions as a superhero there wasn't much for me to battle against anymore what was left of the minor villains in my city were equally devastated by loss no longer interested in a life of petty crime instead of shrinking down to a tiny speck of dust or growing as tall as an enormous building I spent most of my days reading and catching up on chores around the house it's the only thing I could do to shut off my mind and ignore the formidable grease that consumed everything around me but I could only ignore reality for so long I pull up to the front gate of the revenge's secret headquarters waiting for the high tech security system built by iron butt himself to read my pupils and scan my car for any weapons it only takes a brief moment before the scan completes and the gate swings open wide allowing open wide sorry allowing me passage I pull forward onto the lush grounds of the secret headquarters an enormous campus constructed in the middle of the wilderness with rolling green hills and a small river that runs through it the whole place is immaculate cared for by an army of robots who also serve as lethal security sentries I drive around to the front parking lot pulling in next to a few other cars that I immediately recognize the whole team is here I think to myself half of them at least I climb out of my car and find myself immediately greeted by iron butt hand iron butt offers using my real name thanks for coming his greeting is kind and professional but unsettling in its own unique way iron butt is never this nice a rowdy character with an endless arsenal of witty quips it's strange to see iron butt this solemn that mischievous twinkle in his eye has vanished long ago with half the known universe where else would I be I question iron butt just nods with understanding then motions for me to follow him the two of us begin our walk through the front door of the revenge's headquarters then down a long hallway towards the wall a place where all of our tactical discussions once took place so you've got a plan I say iron butt nods it's good to hear I continue forgive me for not being as excited as I should be it's just the two of us stop turning to face one another I want to get back at Thanos so badly I want to make him pay I admit finally letting these pent up feelings course through me and if you've somehow figured out a way to find him and put us in the position for another showdown I'll be right there right by your side but iron butt questions but none of this is going to bring them back I remind him all of our friends our families we already lost and that's not something hunting down Thanos is ever going to change for the first time I see the faintest glimmer of a smile work its way across iron butt's face what if it is something we could change I narrow my eyes what do you mean shorter the time machine there's no way that's possible now iron butt's familiar grin completely appears the man unable to hide his excitement any longer go in for a treat he tells me then continues onward and I follow behind a time machine I question overflowing with excitement iron butt pushes through the door of the war room and were immediately greeted by a round table of heroes some faces that I recognize and some I don't behind them in a large spherical machine with various electrical tubes and wires connected to its round surface there is a single seat in the middle of the contraption and it's empty the second I arrive everyone begins to applaud a rousing welcome that I wasn't quite expecting oh thanks it's all that I can think to say a little confused I appreciate it but the best you guys are way more powerful than I am not in this case offers doctor weird a man in a long red cape with incredible magical powers doctor weird stands up from where he begins walking towards me a fire in his eyes I've seen sixty nine thousand different permutations of our final battle with Tamos and there is only one that ends with victory you are the hero we need I am my stammer who's going with me doctor weird shakes his head just you proc banner could only make a machine large enough to send back one hero fortunately one is all that we need this is crazy I reply I can't shoot lasers or cast magic spells I can't turn into a mighty green monster or I can do is get really small or really big exactly doctor weird replies with a smile reaching out and patting me on the shoulder with a reassuring gesture the magical man walks over to the far wall then begins to trace his fingers through the air this leaves a trail of shimmering cold energy wherever doctor weird moves allowing him to treat the wall as though it's an enormous whiteboard as I said there is only one plan that will work and one hero who is equipped for the job that hero is you repeats doctor weird sketching out a tiny drawing of Tamos and me standing next to one another we're going to send you back in time to our penultimate battle with Tamos and I already be there I question doctor weird nods for question yes but please don't interact with yourself or you'll destroy the entire space time continuum once you've arrived you should immediately shrink down to the size of a sand grain doctor weird magically makes the floating sketch of me shrink down into a single dot of light we then need you to approach Tamos cautiously and fly up into his butthole continues the doctor wait what I'd learnt we need you to shrink down very very small and then fly up into Tamos's butthole repeats doctor weird magically causing the dot that represents me to shoot up into the drawing of Tamos why I stammer so you can get really big once you're in there and make him explode doctor weird continues I have to admit it's not the craziest idea I've heard and if doctor weird says this is the way it has to be then I trust him I take a deep breath and I let out slowly allowing a moment for everything to sink in let's do it I finally announce clapping my hands together loudly the room erupts into cheers as I approach the spherical time machine climbing inside and taking my position at the helm before me is a large screen with a series of flashing symbols powered by some strange combination of technology and magic you only get one trip there and one trip home explains iron butt so make it count hopefully by the time you return this will be a very different world now I've got this I assure the collection of heroes you can count on me whenever you're ready press the big red button doctor weird instructs motioning towards a large button that sits next to the flat screen without a moment's hesitation I slam my hand down hard on the big red circle suddenly the entire world around me disappears with a loud electrical crackle I feel as though I'm hurtling forward at an incredible rate of speed all solid matter falling away and replaced by a swirling cascade of blue and white energy this sensation only lasts a matter of seconds however and the next thing I know my body is yanked forward as the machine comes to a dead stop in the middle of a strange alien landscape I recognize that I recognize this place immediately a distant planet that has haunted my nightmares ever since that fateful day over and over I've thought about what it would be like to return to this place the sight of my own final battle with thermos but never did I believe this day would actually arrive finally my thoughts are interrupted by frantic shouting and booming explosions that emanate from somewhere nearby I quickly jump down from my time machine and survey the surroundings finding that I'm hidden behind a large pile of rubble beyond this pile is where the chaos is occurring and already I know what that chaos is carefully I sneak around the edge of this rubble mound to get a better view watching as my final battle against thermos rages on once more of course the selection of heroes made a stand against the evil warlord but it's the last fight I was involved in and the one that brought us the closest to victory before fate dramatically snatched it away I can see why doctor weird would bring me to this moment and guy get big and smash him someone calls out drawing my attention I glance over but quickly realize it's not the current and guy he's calling to but and guy from the past immediately I shrink down to the size of a sane green and begin bounding around this rugged terrain towards thamos doing my best not to draw attention to myself of course this is a fairly simple task when you're my size and it's not long before I'm standing below the enormous purple skin dinosaur I gaze up at thamos is perfectly toned buns noting just how muscular and well sculpted they are if he wasn't trying to eliminate half the universe I have to admit I'd actually find this god like entity quite attractive here goes nothing I say under my breath then spring upwards with a powerful bound I easily travel to the fabric of thamos's suit then have no problem navigating into his butthole I push deep inside the purple entity's anal passageway eventually finding a spot to rest part one of my mission is complete now for part two not wasting any time I reverse course enlarging myself as quickly as possible unfortunately I hit a snag when I find that thamos's power extends all the way down into the depth of his butt instead of exploding the purple dinosaur into a million pieces I simply find myself filling out his ass stuffing him full I hear a rumbling voice exclaim from all around me thamos clearly just as surprised as I am hold on a moment for my place deep within his butthole I can hear the fighting and explosion stop I'm sorry I'd like to keep battling you all but I feel a little strange thamos calls out I'll be back oh no oh no I begin to stammer realizing now what's about to happen the next thing I know someone is grabbing tightly onto my feet pulling hard as they remove me from my anal hiding spot I immediately return to my original size to find thamos standing before me but the alien battleground is nowhere to be found instead the two of us grossed under the warm afternoon sun on a lush beautiful farm did you teleport us here I blurt well I thought I was only teleporting myself thamos offers in return I didn't know there was a stow away I could crush you do you understand yeah I stammer suddenly realizing the grave danger that I'm in out here on this farm wherever that may be there are no other heroes to protect me thamos and me just stand here for a moment staring at one another awkwardly he's sizing me up as I tremble in fear still not quite sure what to do with me I'm not going to crush you the purple dinosaur finally admits why I ask cautiously to be perfectly honest I haven't felt that good in a long time thamos explains I narrow my eyes not exactly sure what he's trying to say you mean with me in your butt the purple warlord nods now that I know how handsome you are I was hoping I could return the favor I know it's never a good idea to sleep with the enemy but I must admit my powerful attraction to the strange galactic entity he's incredibly muscular and well built with a perfect ass and a bulging package that I'd love to get a better look at more importantly I can sense the slightest bit of good within him maybe just maybe with the right amount of tender love and care I could alter the course of history with carnal passion instead of violence I think I'd like that I finally say a mischievous twinkle in my eye suddenly thamos and me are kissing enthusiastically our hands roaming wild across one another's bodies as we tear away at the fabric of our super suits the more I see of thamos's bare chest and abs the more turned on I get consistently blown away by his mighty physique can't believe we're doing this I gush my hands tracing lower and lower across the purple dinosaur's muscular form I hesitate for a moment at the warlord's waistband teasing him with my touch and then finally having mercy as I reach inside I grab a hold of thamos's swollen cock and then pull him forth gasping aloud when I finally see the full size of his behemoth rod oh my god I stammer that is a beautiful space cock thamos smiles nearingly then falters slightly as I begin to beat him off the purple entity leans his head back and shuts his eyes tight as I begin to stroke him pumping my tightly closed grip up and down across his rod fuck yeah I coo into I knew you'd love this one Jay you like that I coo into the purple warlord's ear I continue to beat off thamos like this for a good while then eventually drop down to my knees before him I gaze up with my cock hungry eyes then open my mouth wide and and and swallow his mighty dong I swiftly get to work bobbing my head up and down across the purple dinosaur's length gracefully servicing him while I reach up and cradle his hanging cosmic balls my movement are skillful and patient taking my time with his shaft and as I alternate taking my time with his shaft as I alternate techniques eventually I pop thamos's dick out of my mouth and I lick him from the base of his rod to the very tip kissing the end playfully as I gather my senses next I open wide and take the purple warlords cock once more only this time I don't move my head back and forth instead I push my face farther and farther down onto thamos's rod somehow relaxing my gag reflex enough to take him into my absolute depths deeper and deeper I push until eventually I end up with my face pressed hard against thamos's perfectly chiseled abs his dick consumed to the hilt thamos switches down and places his hands on the back of my head holding me there for a moment as he savors this perfectly performed deep throat I'm loving every second of this encounter enjoying the fact that enjoying the way it feels to submit myself to such a powerful entity eventually I run out of air and pull back with a gas sputtering wildly as I struggle to collect myself a long strand of saliva hangs between my lips and the head of thamos's giant shaft I need that fat cosmic cock inside me I tell him well-died and belligerent I quickly pull off the rest of my uniform leaving only the strap around my waist that helps me to shrink or grow I turn around and fall forward onto my hands and knees popping my ass out towards the hulking purple giant clearly thamos likes what he sees his eyes transfixed on my perfectly toned rump as I wiggle it from side to side I reach back and give my butt a playful slap then hold my cheeks open so he can get a good luck at my puckered backdoor fuck me I command the massive purple dinosaur climbs down into position behind me and lying his giant dick with the anal seal thamos teases me for a moment playfully testing the rim of my butthole then pulling back at the last second please I beg I need that cock finally the warlord has mercy and pushes forward filling me up completely in a single powerful swoop I let out a startled yelp as he enters me my fingers gripping tightly into the ground as I struggle to adjust to his incredible size fortunately thamos takes his time with me allowing my body to adjust to his formidable member gradually the purple dinosaur begins to pump slowly in and out of my ass causing the aching discomfort to gently melt away soon enough the sensations pulsing across my frame are one of pleasure and warmth the two of us fall into a confident rhythm together thamos hamming hammering away at my butthole while I reach down between my legs and grab a hold of my hanging swollen cock now two distinct sources of pleasure start to build within one from my prostate deep down inside and one from the aching head of my swollen cock these two sources of bliss feed off one another growing stronger and stronger at an exponential rate it that feels so fucking good in my tight ass I moan my eyes rolling back into my head as I repeat this phrase over and over again growing louder with every round until I'm screaming it out at the top of my lungs that feels so fucking good in my tight ass I can sense the edge of a powerful orgasm looming within me and moments later I'm hurtling off this cliff into the great unknown I grit my teeth hissing through them as the sensation explodes through my body like a massive tidal wave sweeping me away I scream jizz erupting hard from the head of my cock and splattering out across the ground below in beautiful early patterns it feels as though this orgasm will last forever load after load blasting from my dick but eventually the sensation passes and Thamos pulls his rod out of my now weamed back door come all over me I command frantic for the purple warlord seed I spin around on my knees gazing up at him Thamos begins to furiously beat off above me ready to blow at any second but I suddenly hold up a hand to stop him no no not just on my face I continue smiling playfully I want you to come all over me in a moment of erotic inspiration I turn the dial on my wrist shrinking myself down once more to the size of a sand grain this time however it's not my ass that I'm aiming for I run and jump flying through the air at a very specific target and somehow managing to make it through the tiny opening at the end of Thamos's cock I slide deep down into his urethra where I begin to shake wildly only adding to his pleasure do it I command blow that fucking load I can feel the penile cavern around me begin to vibrate as Thamos lets out a wild howl of pleasure suddenly I'm hit by a literal wave of cum the seaman pushing me out like a rocket and blasting me through the air as I land I tumble through an ocean of spunk completely swept away by Thamos's hot white jizz when the purple dinosaur finally finishes I return to my original size smiling wide and covered in his seed amazing I gush yes it was Thamos nods come the purple warlord turns and leads me into his farmhouse a modest structure with not much more than a kitchen bedroom and bathroom Thamos and me head to his bathroom where he starts a shower without a word the two of us climb in and begin to wash one or another in a way that's incredibly comforting and sweet it's strange to see this once bloodthirsty entity being so calm tell me Thamos finally offers bluntly I nod I thought it was the only way to stop you from going through with your plan looks like there was another way Thamos continues I pull back in surprise taking in this beautiful purple creature through this pouring water you mean you won't eliminate half of all life in the universe now that I've found you how could I he questions I wrap my arms around Thamos enjoying the comforting sensation of our embrace I have to go back to my timeline I tell him Thamos smiles now I'll meet you there suddenly I'm standing back in the war room at the revenge secret hideout surrounded by smiling friends and family everyone is here including the heroes that were so notably absent before the whole room erupts into a wild cheer when I arrive including Thamos who's standing before me with open arms soon he says end welcome to the classiest podcast on the internet you guys I'm so glad that this was my first 8-Bat experience holy shit oh I'm so glad I'm not coming back on the show I have to tip my hat to the reader I love the enthusiasm in which you read I like to think that someone tuned in just as we got a literal wave of cum jesus christ where do you find the shit voxels there's a suspicion that he writes you are a chuck tingle to be fair his pros aren't bad for someone who's that wasn't a denial pros are like he would probably have delivered us a better captain marvel yes jay that that's captain marvel one weakness I was like I wanted to be like you know people are changing their pictures to funny stuff I was like I don't have anything funny to change my picture too and I went hang on and I checked my own name on the tags of rule 34 I found this jesus christ you really like your mayonnaise don't you I love mayonnaise I actually really do like mayonnaise well is that mayonnaise or miracle whip man I just couldn't stand I couldn't stand my profile picture right next to voxels smiling at them and so I had I don't know your previous picture had like a good look of concern on it when it was in that context that's what it felt like it has to be discussed now I have to photo shop that picture all over again because it can keep the original poor people so all of that there we go that killed half an hour we have killed everyone else homestretch ladies and gentlemen 59 minutes let's just hang out if anyone in chat actually managed to stream that to someone else's bluetooth device hold it up on the loudspeaker and a wallmark I feel like there's got to be one also welcome Ben smud boy how you doing lads wasn't that wonderful wow that was wonderful that was like the last time I was on I think voxels was reading my immortal I guess it's the same experience as before since last year so hey good going voxels I certainly have to commend you you managed to maintain it really well I don't understand really it's kind of an incredible ability once but once is pretty impressive you make a few mistakes and you maintain the pace you seem to anticipate when you need to you know sensuate each of the words each of the parts very good reader you have voice acting experience yourself don't you Moorla yeah I'm not that consistent I need more attempts correct me if I'm wrong didn't you do some voiceover for a video game an ant game ant guy he wasn't there no no no an ant game yes what was that like it was fun little experience you have to read out the funnest part was when it got to like the really gamey things when it would be like say like 10 resources remaining you have to read out like 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40 that sort of shit we were like wow someone's actually going to listen to you read out all these fucking things that's how it works mechanically but then the duration stuff you get to be like you know I think I've told you this before but like with documentaries they make it all dramatic like the army of ants approaches the innocent gorilla as it sleeps oh like leningen but you get to do that in the game and be all like epic there's a clip Mel knows about this one where I'm like testing out the game myself and I'm about to fight like this huge boss but I've kind of like over provided ants to myself and I like break open the wall and my commentary is trying to introduce this massive boss going to take ages to kill and it dies like halfway through I'm explaining it and it's just like awkwardly standing around like I'm just taking apart its corpse well it's like this thing is unstoppable it's like he could like yeah I was watching it's empire of the ants isn't it I was watching a review someone was you know praising it sounds really good segment and I heard a voice and I was like that's molar that's molar talking empires of the undergrowth I believe yeah that's it it's an ants so who here has been who here has been here the entire time I have I have rags of mollard I feel like I have been after that 24 hour streams are so brutal I've done three of them and I almost never want to do one again well hey after all that I have arrived once but I've came twice yeah we got 56 minutes until 30 hours is what we we decided to go for this year just to beat out the 29 from last year because with that petty to old does that mean next year 31 yeah I guess we got to do 31 next year oh don't keep going for too many years I was going to say we're going to have to give up eventually we hit like 10,000 like how are we alive 50 50 years of e-feps oh yeah at that point we might actually kill ourselves by staying up that late did you know you will die of sleep deprivation before you starve to death really depends if you're sleeping or reading well if you here's the thing the statement assumes you're not doing either I didn't hear that I didn't hear that assumption it's like an understood you as like a subject in a how recently have I slept or eaten I don't know only you can prevent forest fires yeah I believe you can starve to death in a week but you can probably die of sleep deprivation in about four days or so I think sleep deprivation it's I'm not sure what the difference is it could last a lot longer than a week without food I know you die of first week three weeks without food I think it's like closer to a month because it's like I've fasted for five days and I didn't feel like dying so I was dying of first listening to that three minutes without oxygen three days without water, three weeks without food it's three weeks holy shit you can go a long time without food as long as you're getting that water yeah it depends how large you are already like movie bob it's probably like three years well you chop off your arm right and you start eating that oh no no if he's posted a video about that that's a bad idea it spends more energy to heal than it does when you get from eating it yeah your stomach juices would digest themselves every three days you're lining so you have to keep drinking water yeah you don't want to eat if you don't have access to water in certain circumstances because you expend water in order to go through the digestive process you think your body would be smart enough to not do that well no you wouldn't um Jay there's a question going around which holiday do you prefer Halloween or Christmas Halloween that's just I'm offended that people have to ask me because obviously I'm on the side of the better option yeah what's the numbers on that now I believe well let's find out who he has and we got three people to answer the question here right now Ben Halloween or Christmas which is better I go Halloween all the way I'm not a fan of Christmas I can't stand Christmas music I cannot stand it so definitely Halloween you know what I was going to say Christmas until you brought up music it's Halloween yes that music you can't escape it either it's everywhere maybe you haven't heard any good music from Christmas markets or live performances those are fantastic whether it's German or just traditional Christian it's beautiful stuff doesn't really matter what language they're singing it's always beautiful live performance those are just not good ever what about English do you like English rags English is hit and miss honestly but I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that I understand what the words mean English stole a lot of words from a lot of places that's why it's so cool the English stole a lot of things from a lot of places give me your words back Earthlings stole a lot of things from a lot of places that's the problem with English is that there's so many words or phrases that you don't pronounce and people look at this like Germans they go what the hell is this word hey man I'm right here okay what phrases do we not pronounce I'm so confused there's so many words that you write them but you don't say them the little symbols that correspond to sounds the letters yes the alphabet thank you what's happening you said there were like phrases we don't pronounce and I was so confused I think it's really weird that nobody pronounces the P and Simpsons fucking kill you so we've got two more in the numbers for Halloween and one for Christmas yes sir okay we got the surprise at the end of it one of holidays gets permanently banished from reality do you have a do you have a plan for episode 200 because I have a proposition back in the day on DP we had someone get fisted on episode 200 what I like that that's just what do you guys think fisting you know what I've been thinking about it yeah yeah there was there was a census done for the year of 2001 to 100 I guess I can link it into eFap chat you guys can do your votes I'm not sure it'll make a huge difference at this point because it's been voted upon heavily there it is these are the results we can we can see what the census results are isn't everybody interested by what in the world this could say to fucking put it on the screen we have to make everyone look weird sorry about this but no problem it happens now you're going to see 5 it's okay we got a good selection they only cut out half of us yay I'm still here so which were your favorite eFap episodes of year 2 the overwhelming score seems to be going to lord of the rings which was like the most painful eFap but yeah with a runner up looking to be a guide to the last jedi do you remember that shit wolf you were there for that that fucking video guide to the last jedi which one was that it was like the last big video you covered before 100 I guess yeah because it's like full breakdown of oh that's older 66 then as well yeah and the jenny nickle someone and the quintan one yeah they're all high school oh and tonal gonna cook us we just had it cook that was the highest quality um favorite new guest was aidan paladin by pretty significant margin next up was internet historian and then heal vs babyface and armad skeptic look at the little community voting how interesting who your favorite reoccurring eFap I feel like this is unfair now it's a popular contest friggie wins it out apparently he's the favorite reoccurring guest then chat adversity then critical drinker then jay jay how does it feel poor alz fucking 3% oh that's just racism nobody likes the black smiley face it's terrible yeah and mel you beat out pheo who was on eFap wow oh damn that's exciting but we can where it beat you out bastard what are the best new memes of year 2 it seems to me that the two overwhelmingly voted for isle of man flag and nor that's fair enough that doesn't surprise whatsoever they are very commonly used a clear runner up is what you bring me I don't even know why that would have been a surprise and then batwoman's ridiculous fight music oh kuga juice at a 0.3% just oh kuga juice was good though gimley wants frodo and sam to die you already got 0.2% how is that possible how many of you two what's jags what is jags is that like a ship name for me and rags no what if that's like me but jags is it a portmanteau is it like rangelina if people ship you and rags together is that what that is that's what I was guessing yeah well have a look on that rule 34 website that you got your avatar from I'm not sure what this one means ifap year 2 compare to year 1 it just says 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 alright well and I think in the quiz it said better or worse oh wait so what was full quiz for the better or worse I think one was worse oh wow one piece of shit thought that this year it was jared jared got into the he figured out how to work his computer machine have you gone out of your way to watch or play a movie show or game because of e-fap coverage and the most commonly answered is yes because I got interested in the media by the discussion of it winning we've gotten people into stuff and yes both which was the worst movie in the star wars sequel trilogy and it seems to be the last Jedi according to this interesting what do you mean by a shock it got a 50-50 vote last time it