Yeah It is 430 and I'm calling this meeting of the design review board to order Recording secretary, can you please call roll board member Burt Present board member cook is absent board member lip-tack present Board member Sharon is absent board member with rich present vice chair Weigel President Chair Jones Carter Let the record reflect that all board members are present with the exception of board member cook and board member Sharon Item 2 approval minutes. We have none Item 3 public comment We are now taking public comment on item number 3 non-agenda matters This is the time when any person may address the board on matters not listed on this agenda But which are within the subject matter jurisdiction of this committee Recording secretary, can you please provide instructions to the public? If you wish to make a public comment, please make your way to the podium Chair Jones Carter. I'm seeing nobody make their way to the podium Public comment is closed Item 4 board business Statement item 4.1 statement of purpose zoning code chapter 20 dash 52 point 030 F Project review the review authority shall consider the location design site plan configuration and the overall effect of the proposed project upon surrounding properties and the city in general Review shall be conducted by comparing the proposed project to the general plan any applicable specific plan applicable zoning code standards and requirements Consistency of the project project within the city's design guidelines architectural criteria for special areas and other applicable city requirements Item 4.2 board member reports. Are there any board member reports? Hearing none Thank you We don't have to do public comment because there were no reports good Item 4.3 There is none item 5 department reports Amy, do you have a report for us? Good afternoon chair. No report today. Thank you Item 6 statements of abstention. Do we have any on item 8.1? Okay Item 7 consent items. There are none Item 8 scheduled items. We're moving on to the first scheduled item 8.1 public hearing coffee park self storage major design review 32 82 coffee lane dash dr 20 dash 014 Presented by Mike Wixon the city. I'm sorry a contract planner Are there any ex parte disclosures on this item? Okay, so I'll begin the presentation and thank you madam chair Mike Wixon contract planner with the city and This item is a self storage project known as the coffee park self storage project It also has a conditional use permit with it as a project which will be considered either by the Planning Commission or the zoning administrator soon here after this meeting So if we could go to the next slide, please So the the application itself is for a two-story building. It's approximately 69,000 square feet There are 25 off-site parking spaces that I'll point out to you And that is the need for the conditional use permit is the off-site parking spaces and it's on approximately 1.3 acres in the coffee park area And it's located about 32 82 and 32 42 coffee lane So the project takes up a few different parcels, but it's primarily located at 32 82 coffee lane Next slide, please and again, this is showing the project location and kind of the Neighborhood context that it resides in you can see the project area highlighted in green And then you can see the the blue area Actually contains all of the parcels that are involved in the project But the project area itself is really limited to that that component that's shown in the green the project site fronts on coffee lane The project site will also have access to Piner Road Which you'll see in the site plan as we get through the presentation and then Rather than discuss the surrounding uses right now, I think I'll go to the next slide and can discuss a little bit more, too Again, this is the project site But it tends to show the project site and the parcel in Context with where there are off-site parking so you can see the dashed off-site parking area And then also what will be a future dashed off-site Vehicle access to the south onto Piner Road the the property is owned both This site and then the site to the south by the same owner So having the vehicle access and making adjustments to the lot lines for both of these parcels To complete the project won't be any issue for the applicant There's also a lot line adjustment application that will be required in the future But that lot line adjustment application has not been submitted as of yet So if we can go to the next slide, please Again, this is a little bit more in context These these slides show the vacant parcel on the left the smaller inset You can see the vacant parcel on context with the development surrounding it In particular to the north is the Piner Creek Industrial Park to the south is both a convenient smart gas station And a car wash and those are all owned by the same owner as this project And then there's also tire and brakes or tire and It's a brake store to the south and then There's some other industrial uses to the east As well as to the west there are some industrial uses Uh that are and also the fire station immediately west of the project site We can go to the next slide, please So this is a street view of the project site. Again, this is looking into the vacant portion of the of the undeveloped site You to your right. You can see just the beginnings of the building That's the convenience store gas station And then to the left you can see how the redwood screen this site from the Piner Creek industrial park Then if you go to the next slide, please Again a little bit more from the street view. This is showing where the offsite parking spaces would be Relative to the undeveloped portion of the site And if you go to the next slide, please And again, this is Again showing the vacant parcel But a little bit more of coffee lanes so you can see how coffee lane exists Along the frontage of the site the project will complete the improvements Uh necessary to have the complete street And those improvements will be completed Between the existing gas station to the south and then the Piner Creek industrial park to the north Along the frontage of the project site If you go to the next slide, please This is showing the The street view from Piner Road And this is just given so you get an idea of What it looks like looking into the site from Piner Road. It's not a perfect View into it But there is an issue That i'll present later that I just wanted to get you give you a feel for what what that kind of looks like and And get that in your mind a little bit You can go to the next slide, please And again, this is just showing surrounding land uses in the buildings to give you an idea of the architecture surrounding the site It's a lot of parapet roofs around it Um in that type of almost like an international style, but not quite Um and then again to the west is industrial uses in the city gas station To the south is the tire store And then there's also the empire floors to the south Um as well as there's an existing Shopping center small little strip center to the south and you can see the architecture of that particular site as well So if you go to the next slide, please The project history started in about 2019 at the end of 2019 the concept review application was submitted But then it was later withdrawn Um in favor of just going straight to the design review The applicant had met with staff in a pre-application And I think the applicant felt as if they had gotten good enough direction To proceed forward without doing a concept review So in september 2020 The applicant submitted the application Uh and then also in 2021 the application was submitted for the conditional use permit for the offsite parking And then those applications were deemed complete recently in july And here we are And so if you can go to the next slide, please This particular slide is just showing the context of the general plan The gray area both on the project site and surrounding is all light industry In the general plan the use itself is consistent and a listed use for the general plan So it is a permitted use by the general plan itself If you go to the zoning on the next slide The zoning shows also light industrial zoning The blue shows the the site itself but all the clear area on the map Is a light industrial or most of it Directly to the south again is a little bit of general commercial Or yeah general commercial But the project site itself is light industrial And again the use itself Which is the self storage use Is a permitted use as long as it meets the development standards Listed in the zoning code And you'll see in the staff report that upon review of those standards Project does meet all of those criteria and therefore is it permitted use for the particular site If you can go to the next slide, please This is showing the proposed site plan The site itself has a little bit of an L shape Again, I mentioned the lot line adjustment There will be a slight slight lot line adjustment And if you look at the lower right hand corner Where the building kind of ends up there on the south south elevation Generally in that area that that lot line will be shifted a little bit To the west so that it can encompass what's necessary for the retention area And then also for the exiting access road So this essentially is a site plan that's showing an adjusted lot line in and of itself And that's what the review was calculated on and how it was evaluated You can see the parking that's provided on site There'll be a few parking spaces provided directly on site right up at the front on the left hand side Of this site plan as you look at it And then there'll be a small little walkway to those 25 parking spaces directly to the north That will give access to the office area That's shown kind of in the lower left hand corner of the building there The way that the the project will work and have access it will provide access from copy lane Um and it will come in off of copy lane both ingress and egress So there will be a little turnaround area in the front if people Come to the site and see that the wrong place. They will be able to turn around Um and then exit to copy lane However, anybody who's entering the site will have to go through a a gate or that's a security gate at the front And then they will press the buttons get with the correct security code. They'll enter the site Go to the right It is it will be a one-way drive aisle to the right And follow the drive aisle all the way out to an exit gate Which is uh back again in that uh kind of lower right corner that I mentioned And then that access will go finally on to piner lane and we'll go to the next slide, please The access is shown a little bit more completely here. So you can see that gray area That's the uh the access road through the project site meets all the requirements for width And uh side parking so people can load unload um Then this is the landscape plan so you can see the limited landscaping that will be put on site There'll be a few more trees added per the conditions of approval both in the front or actually it will be to the front And so that that was included in the conditions of approval If you go to the next slide, please This is a slide of the building elevations and I've got a few slides to show the building elevations It's kind of walked through it. This is looking directly west. So this is the view directly from coffee lane And you can see the uh architecture proposed has a lot of variety to it different materials Um different elevations of the parapet wall They'll also have a steel awning with a steel rod tie backs And there'll be clear glass windows with anodized steel or anodized aluminum mullions for the windows And the windows are clear enough that you will see through those at night So you'll see back through them And that's kind of what's shown in the orange there that's you're looking through the windows To the storage units themselves into the back and that also will be true for the office area Down below there on the bottom floor Just below that upper area So that upper area will come back to that I want to come back to that a little bit later to discuss just the design of that and Kind of walk through that with the design review board If you go to the oh before I go to the next slide, sorry Just walking back the the east elevation is facing a developed light industrial building and then it's the back of a light industrial area reuse So that's why you don't see any Ornamentation or any real variety in that back. It's really not necessary Um, and then if you go to the next slide You'll see the building elevations facing both the south and north The north elevation is what faces the piner creek industrial park And then the south elevation is what will face the existing Um convenience store and gas station So as you look at the south elevation, um, the complete south south elevation is shown just below these two Basically, I pulled up the west side of the south elevation And the east side of the south elevation so that you could see them a little bit more in detail Um, and then the full elevation itself is presented just below them But again, you can see the similar materials windows, uh the The steel tie backs and the awning in the front the doors themselves will be steel man doors And then there will also be a a wainscote treatment on the bottom. It's a a wreck of sorts or A pre-manufactured stone veneer that will be a complementary color to the building itself And you can see that as well So one of the things that I wanted to point out in this elevation because it begins to get into the issue that I'll be discussing a little bit more Is if you look closely on the top picture On the right side, you'll see the parapet line Uh of the wall Behind the gate So this is actually behind the security gate, but you'll see the parapet wall of the elevation is a little bit below What is going to be the parapet wall line on the backside or north facing? Uh elevation and in between those two lines, you'll see a little bit of a gray area with those lines And that's essentially the sloping roof And that's that is our issue that we just wanted to raise To the designer view board And I'll go into it a little bit more But I just wanted to be able to point that out in the elevations that that same feature Is also on the right side of the building elevation here presented so you can see it Again, it's on the it's facing the interior of the project site directly But there is that view to the sloping roof and I just wanted to point that out for now So if we go to this Actually the north facing elevation we don't need to go to the next slide yet, but the north facing elevation has a little bit more Delineation to it if you will Especially at the front you can see the score lines and the stucco wall material It's a beige color so it's very similar to the front and it goes back Approximately 40 feet and then begins the vertical Galvanized metal Wall material and that wall material will continue back to The left side there or what would be the east side of the building And then it'll have a few break points in it to break it up a little bit with the score lines and Stucco wall material and you can see that very clearly in that elevation And if you go to the next slide, please This is just meant to give you as a designer view board a feel for the building materials You can see the veneer stone on the bottom of this is not i'm looking at the picture in the upper left corner You can see the anodized aluminum Doors windows You can see the steel awnings and then the tie backs You can see the veneer stone All being very similar to what's proposed with this project And then you can see the steel man doors in the next picture to the right And again more of the same On the picture to the right of that you see the steel tie backs the steel awning Anodized aluminum windows and the clear windows and then the the one on the very right and the upper right Is just meant to show the keypad and what that will look like at the gate at the entry gate The one just below that is the pedestrian entry gate. So that is what the gate design Will look like when the product is finished or the building is built out To the left of that is the faux veneer stone to tile That will be placed on the building so you can feel for the look of that and the color And again, just to the left of that is the clear windows so you can see how the clear windows will be seen You basically you'll be able to see through those into the back And I think lastly it's just to the left of that is the lower left corner is the stucco itself with It doesn't show up very well, but that'll have the score lines are there And the score lines will be included in the design of this building as well And again, that shows the the stone veneer as well On that bottom lanes code treatment You go to the next slide, please In context, this is the street rendering as to what it will look like as a finished product And you can see the completed design here So the two issues that staff has that we just wanted to raise to the board are number one the element that is the upper pop out element Above the office area and you can see it has that faux wood tile treatment And then the sign is up there for the coffee park storage So that treatment in staff's opinion tends to just float up above It doesn't really have much of a connection to the base Um, and so that that's just something that we had raised to the applicant and something to consider The we had raised to the applicant the possibility of continuing that pop out all the way down And if you were to do that it created a few issues But the main issue is that it would take up the area of the walkway And start to press into the parking and remove another parking space from the front area Um, and then as well we said we were looking at it and considering maybe we just used the faux tile To just extend the faux tile down and give it some connection to the wainscote treatment and then the foundation And that presents a problem in that the steel tie backs Uh, would then be put over the top of that tile and that could create a structural issue later on Um, and so then the applicant suggested possibly the use of a paint material So just simply painting What's below it with some? Complimentary color that could tie it into the ground So i'm raising this to uh to the design review board if this is an issue to you Um, there's a few ideas there of what might be done to address it And then hopefully it can be discussed a little bit further and I know the applicant is there So the applicant being i'm sure more than happy to discuss ideas and If that is something of concern to the design review board Then the next Issue again is the interior building elevations parapet wall height And again, uh, both these elevations shown here. I've pointed out where that sloping roof is Hopefully those are visible here in these pictures What you'll see in these elevations as well is even above the The stucco area and the scoured stucco area you can see the the Parapet wall line in back of it So that lighter line in the back will be the finished parapet wall line Uh, all the way around the building you can see it has a slight elevation changes as it goes around the building, which is good um However again, you can see that slightly in that interior elevation you can see a little bit of that sloping roof And uh, whether or not that might be an issue to the design review board Is the other issue we're raising and just if if it's something that is of concern To the design review board that you might consider raising the parapet wall height slightly To cover that and make that completely invisible or not visible from the street I'm going to talk a little bit more about how that might be visible um, right now it You have a lot of it covered or it's pretty well covered By the existing building immediately to the south um You recall I mentioned that there's the existing development of the convenience store And then the gas station and car wash and those together will block quite a bit of view view into the site However, there still exists the possibility that it might be viewed from from uh, piner and Therefore we're just raising this to to be sure you're aware of what is shown And the possibility that might be Visible from the street The next slide if you can go to that which is the line of sight from coffee lane And the applicant has prepared this to kind of give you an idea If you follow that line of sight out from coffee lane All the way back into the uh back of the site You won't see or you wouldn't see or shouldn't see the sloping roof um From that perspective because that front parapet wall should block your line of sight um If you took that same line of sight a little bit forward into the Wall that's south facing all the way back along There are some small areas where you might be able to see into the site and see a little bit of that sloping roof So again, it's not a serious issue. It's just something that if the if it's a concern to the designer view board um That's an item for discussion But I think for the most part It should be um Pretty well screened from street view, but there might be some sites into it So, uh, again if we go to the next slide I had mentioned the pop out that was the other issue And so there it is again um Kind of wrapping this up the project itself is uh Qualifies for an exemption as a class 32 project According to the sequel as an infill development project And there's quite a bit of discussion given to that in the staff report and how it qualifies for that exemption And uh again the next slide, please Just recapping the issues for discussion The design of the pop out feature and the elevation of the interior parapet wall Whether you'll have view into those that sloping roof Uh, and then the next slide, please So overall is recommended by the planning and economic development department that the design review board approved the resolution that's included in your packet Uh for the design review application for the coffee park self storage project at 3282 and 3240 copy lane And that concludes my presentation Um, and I'd be happy to answer any questions if you had them and again Mr. Ed Borsma, I believe is in the audience and if you had questions I'm sure he'd be more and happy to to discuss them with you And that's it. Thank you Sure, could I ask a quick question? Sure. Um I'm not sure if questions to staff regarding the project as a whole are are appropriate I would like to maybe if we could before we heard the balance of the presentation just get a quick read on What our approval is relative to the conditional use Approval and just make sure that I understand what we're what we're looking at this evening to to understand and If if we could just if I don't want to get deep into the details We can do that after the applicant presentation But could we just kind of take a quick look at what it is we're looking at tonight what the approval is and How it relates to the conditional use permit? Is that what I Sure. I um, I'm gonna Defer to Mike wicks and the planner Just because he'll probably have a more detailed answer for you. I believe I know the answer but I see him on here. So I'll stop talking Yeah, so before you tonight is the design review and that would be a Quote unquote a final design review because there's no preliminary design review here So it'd be a final design review for the project as a whole So that would include actually The off-site parking not the use of it, but the design As it relates to the project and having access to the project as well as the project site Uh, the building that you've been shown the all the onsite development And I did leave out one little component that there will be a small little Part of a The awning that is used for the solar array on the parcel to the south And that small little section of the awning will be removed So that the gate and it can be extended on to That area that will have the lot line adjustment. That's also part of the design review tonight so, um Hopefully that answered your question if it didn't let me know I can try and elaborate more You hit the issue on the head that I was Curious about which is if we're making a land use decision regarding the parking or evaluating it not that I have not to Say that I'm against it Or if that was going to be the conditional use permit In other words the design of the parking is kind of one thing the path that goes there that sort of thing I just wasn't sure if our Comments on or our vote wrapped up The viability of the off-site parking Which sounds like the use permit does that That would be correct. That would have less than use itself. Great understood. Thank you Thank you chair Hi, would you like to proceed with your presentation? I'm ed borosma with cubics and this is trevor with the civil engineer We aren't going to provide an additional Presentation other than what mike did but we're available for questions Comments as needed Thank you Well, I'd like to open public comment Public I would like to open the public hearing on this item Recording secretary. Do we have any public comment? If you wish to make a public comment, please make your way to the podium Chair jones carter. I'm seeing nobody making their way to the podium great I don't I don't think they can do that now I think they have to be here Yes So the question is if we It's my understanding that people have to be here in person that we're not taking emails and voicemail messages as public comment Thank you for the question Public comment can be provided either In person here in the chamber or we can accept emails prior to the meeting and that can be uploaded as late Correspondents and the planner can summarize it But yeah, no voice messages. No Zoom comments As of now Thank you Do we have any emails? Chair jones carter. We don't have any emails. Thank you So moving forward if I say do we have any public comment that would include that? Correct typically if we do receive an email, I will upload it as late correspondence For whatever reason if it's too close to the meeting and I don't have time then at that point the planner would read That late correspondence allowed Thank you So Are there any questions on the board for a staff or the applicant? I'm sure there are we'd like to start with earnest Sure Thanks for the presentation Just some quick questions Where would the mechanical equipment be going on this Building the mechanical equipment would be on the roof At the West end of the property hidden behind parapets Uh, how how tall is the parapet over the roof at that area? I'm trying to find it here. It's approximately four feet. Okay and then Can you clarify the parking count? It looked like it was 25 Spaces serving the site that are off-site plus The accessible space A secondary space and then maybe a manager space. Is that correct? There's a manager space inside the building, but yes you describe that accurately the off-site spaces actually are already there And there's an easement in place for them But the operation of the self storage will not require those and I'm entirely sure why we Are even going through the exercise because the spaces are there and there's an easement already from some prior efforts on this particular project But As the site operates, there's so few cars that will be in the site at any given time We expect somewhere in the neighborhood of three to four cars at any given time will be on site And there might be one at the office Two or three perhaps near their storage units loading for 15 minutes at a time and then leaving So it's it's really overkill to have the make that the parking spaces that we're talking about today the off-site spaces aren't even necessary Yeah, so so technically there's about 28 spaces that serve that's about right That's actually all my questions. Thank you Thank you, michael Yeah, some of my questions revolved around the parking as well and it's funny because it kind of bounced back and forth 25 spaces and it looked really odd given our uh the understanding that I've gained of Storage projects and how few spaces are required So, um, it was it was interesting to kind of work through where they were what they were for Probably good to have the overflow I guess my question is that those are on those are on private property, right? That's that's an easement through Okay, so it's an easement and that easement um, it is not likely to be Changed or vacated in or in In a short term So it just always I was trying to pay attention when parking for a project is not on the project and We've seen projects go down where they couldn't provide parking and you just couldn't rely on An alternate source off-site So I I think that your answer probably clears up any questions that I had about about the parking That's sort of a comment. I'm sort of working through it or a question. I'm sort of working through it What is the parapet set back from the From the facade, I don't know who has the best answer to that Is yeah, is there a setback from the finished building line to the parapet? Or is the parapet I was in looking at the drawing. I'm seeing this the little strip of white I'm assuming that that's a a parapet screen behind the parapet. Am I missing the The building wall the exterior wall is the parapet is the parapet. Okay And then with regard to the parapet and the question raised by staff about the possibility of being visible You know in a flat elevation. Sure. You see that the um The the distance To piner is roughly 200 feet The cross section we drew from coffee lane Shows 500 feet of distance the further you get away The more you could potentially see that parapet But the cross section that we provided shows that you will not See the parapet even from 500 feet You're stealing my thunder from my comments. I always tell people elevations don't tell you anything about the real world When you're when you're in a car on the ground, you're you've got a different view So elevations are deceiving but I I appreciate that and understand that so I just wanted to try to understand where it was I think those those are all my questions so Vic Hello, thank you for being here I have a few questions The roof what is the roof material? It's a standing seam gavelume roof I thought it said standing seam someplace and I couldn't I was searching on it. I couldn't find it So in the elevation in fact, we can we're looking at the standing seam the little bit of roof that's above The lower side where you would you know presumably be looking in so I I mean standing seam is Like very cool. So thank you. I'm glad you confirmed that it is Standing seam. I think it adds material variety I have a question about How the how The project as presented demonstrates the connection with the off-site parking that just seems like I Need to look more closely perhaps or need to be pointed to where to look to see what that connection is from What is presented to us to what is intended to be through The the parking easement which is in perpetuity. I believe I think I've read that Is there is it is it developed? Is it is there someplace I can see it? The so the the pedestrian path presumably Yes, if you're asking about the physical connection There is a pedestrian path on the west side of the building that leads directly to these parking stalls Okay, I'll just look it up in the plants And then finally I'm looking for a trash enclosure Yeah, we have the trash enclosure Inside the building So you won't see it And and then Okay, great. Is it Called out in the plan? It is. Okay, great. I'll look it up. I presume it's on the first floor Thank you. I saw it True champion question Yeah, I have a couple questions. Thanks chair um So I'm sorry to belabor the the roof parapet question But so it looks like there's a 11 foot floor to floor for the first floor. I'm assuming it's 10 or 11 feet floor to floor for the second floor. Is that correct? Or is it less on that second floor because it's just not shown anywhere Well, there are dimensions on the elevations to show those heights My eyesight at this point with this site scaled right. I can't read my own dimensions. Yeah, and there's not so so typically, you know I'm an architect. So I would put, you know finished floor And I would say 11 feet and then I would say, you know, whatever roof line This site I'm not seeing one for the second Floor and the reason I asked that is you said four foot parapet. So to me that says if your shortest parapet is 22 24 foot six at the front the west of the building where the mechanical units are And you said it's a four foot parapet Then that would put the floor to floor at like nine foot six basically from the The second floor to the top of the roof deck basically. That's correct. Okay. Is that about right? Yes Okay, so the second floor is shorter than the first floor and obviously because it is less structure, right? You don't have to hold all the weight, right? So you probably have like two feet of structure or something like that Okay, cool All right, that answers that because it again, there's there's two heights of parapets on the front entry, right? There's the kind of the stone bump out which is a little bit taller Anyway, uh, so I'm just I was just trying to make sure four four feet's a good spot for a mechanical unit Mechanical units can be very large So I think we just don't want to see them, right from the street. So thank you um Okay So I was looking at the landscape plan and it looked like um, there's both a marina strawberry and a chinese pistach Notated in the legend But then I wasn't seeing that Symbol anywhere. So it looks like you're just intending on planting for Coast live oaks. Is that correct? Uh, yeah, that is correct. Our landscape partner. I could make it today. Um But that is correct. We proposed live oaks in the bioretention facilities They are on the planting list in san eros lid. So we provided that as our selection Yeah, that was going to be my next question. I'm not a landscape architect. So if if uh, I remember if Mike were here or Adam they'd be like, oh, you can't put a tree in a biofiltration facility But if the live oak can go in the biofiltration for the lid list then perfect um, okay, so that was and then um I just had a question about this drive aisle Um, you know, so we've we've got all this off-site parking Which I understand and it's already kind of locked in and whatnot But um, there's only kind of one way to access this site from that parking, but that's a separate comment question So the drive aisle so as people utilize this facility, right? They're going to drive in and then they're going to park like immediately adjacent to the building, right? So there's going to be a 12 foot drive aisle and then 14 foot 6 left over for a Emergency vehicle access should somebody be parked in there. Has that all been reviewed by um city fire and whatnot and they're okay with that It has and yes, they are okay cool Yeah, it's just there's really no dimensions or kind of description about how that would operate functionally But if if fires looked at it, that's great that fire ingress egress. I did see an exhibit With all that the turning radius is and whatnot. So fires look that great And that's it for my questions. Thank you Okay Yes Yeah, I'm sorry. I had I had one additional question and that is the this the setbacks ah There's it so On page seven of the staff report. It says there's a six inch setback on the north and the rear And the plan shows a one foot and I'm just like that And I know on the the so-called rear side. There's a flooring store right there so But I can't see And it looks like it's right there. Is that is there literally one foot between The project and the flooring store. That's a good question. And there's two conditions on the east side We are one foot from the property line the building the flooring store building is about three and a half feet from this building And we will have to get a construction temporary construction easement to assist with the construction on the north side The dimensions on the plan says six foot six inch minimum But there's articulation in the building wall. So it articulates to one foot six six inches one foot And adjacent to it is is Anything nothing. I mean I can see the parking just the parking lot on the north side. Great. Thank you Okay, um, I had a question. Was there any thought to providing some kind of overhead coverage for people loading unloading items into their storage units We do have overhead coverage on the exterior double man doors for people coming into the in and out of the building it's um Not typically done in self storage to put coverage in front of all of the roll up doors on the exterior of the building She can imagine that's most of the building And so you'd also have to put that 14 feet high so the trucks don't hit it and depending on how far that awning sticks out At 14 foot high if it's only a three foot awning, it's not going to give you a lot of protection So I'm not sure that that would be warranted But at the areas where the people do come into the building there are awnings about And um, was there any consideration giving to trying to provide more light for the upper unit? I know you have the the one block on the end Or in the middle of the building which is providing some daylight, but That's it Yeah, the nature of self storage is such that there isn't usually a lot of natural light There is some coming in the building, but it's limited. We do have the lights on the second floor At the main cross hallways where the elevators are so where the most Traffic of people will be there will be the most amount of light Other than that there'll be motion sensing lights throughout so it'll be lit up quite bright Okay, thank you. Are there any final questions before we move to a motion? I have one final question. I'm just looking at the site one last time. Um, is there going to be a requirement as you kind of move further for Electric vehicle charging It's likely. Yeah, we could provide that I'm just thinking because Back to that parking count the parking count number keep goes up Which I think is atypical for something like this and we got a tiny little site where something can be provided up front the The thought that it could impact the that front parking design Okay, thank you. Sorry. I was talking Would someone like to make a motion for the resolution I move To Accept the resolution and we have comments after this, right? So let's get it on. Let's get let's get to it I move that we accept the resolution What what think the whole thing? Okay, hold on. Hold on. I I No, it's too far away Actually, I can't read that but I have it right here I have the resolution. Okay. Here we go ha I move to approve the Resolution of the design review board of the city of santa rosa granting design review approval of the coffee park self storage project Located at 32 42 30 282 and 3300 coffee lane apns 034 dash 011 dash 074 034 011 Sorry 034 dash 011 dash 077 and 034 dash 011 dash 076 file number dr 20 dash 043 I have to do the thing in parentheses the pr thing as well in parentheses prj 21 dash 034 And I waived the reading of the text. Thank you true I'll second the motion All right. Um, and now we would like to get some comments from the board I'll start down here with vick. I'm so yeah with vick. I'm looking that way Um, I I would like to comment on the Overhang piece with the wood faux wood tile. I think it's beautiful And I I think cantilever works. I think people understand cantilevers now So a cantilever piece that comes out. I I don't I don't See the need to try to tie it in it's a it's a It's got the name on it. It's got the windows in it. I I like So I I do not have a problem with that nor do I have a problem with the um parapet Those are my comments Thank you Ernest Yeah, thanks again for bringing the project forward and overall I'm I'm into the project. It's it's great. Um, I'm actually on the other side of the spectrum for, um The floating piece up front You know the the patchwork of that material it shows up one two three It shows up a couple times in it. I think further down on the I East side of the building north elevation it's it just shows up again as a Just another random patch. Um, I don't know that it ties in necessarily um I personally have a preference that it um it would tie in I know there was mentioned that that it could impact the awning um tie backs It it seems to be addressed on the uh adjacent Kind of bump outs on the west elevation the the awning is tying back onto the that material same material So it seems feasible It could just be a preference. Um, so I'll go along with the board on how how they decide um I do bring up the parking thing again with the consideration that I I think there may be a potential for a conflict In the site design in that if we're if you're at 28 parking spaces total We need to introduce an electric vehicle charging station It needs to be set up as accessible. So we're going to lose an a space for an aisle Let's say we remove that from the parking count. You're still at 27. That means two accessible parking spaces Which means your second parking space In the front is going to probably be accessible as well Meaning that you have an ev charging station in the back Meaning you have an accessible route to that adjacent property. So maybe it doesn't work out that way I think it's just something to consider based on the scoping that I think you are going to probably have to modify something at some point in time and it could Maybe there is potential that um something might need to shift in terms of the the parking. So Uh, may I respond to that? Absolutely Mike wixen could comment on what the actual required number of parking spaces is for this project, but it is not 25 or 28 it's more like five We just happen to have 25 Right and and while I I agree that that's that could be true While you might be required to have five 28 are provided So I think we would look at the more stringent Scoping requirement. I don't think we could necessarily say that Well, we're not actually going to use those spaces if they're provided and they're associated with this project I think we would want to look at The full scoping of how many parking spaces are associated with This building if the number of accessible stalls is triggered by the excess parking Then it would be in the developer's interest to Scale back the existing easement. So there are less parking spaces provided because we don't need them So get it down to 25 total Get it down to 10. So we don't need two accessible spaces Yeah, that could us 20 20. I mean if you want to do 10, that's completely fine, too Hey Ernest yes, sir. Yeah, I think I mean Ernest brings a really good point I mean ultimately the determination of your parking is going to be a result Of your building plan check and Jesse Oswald who's the chief building official for the city is going to make that determination on whether or not What's going to be required based on the development of parcel, right? I mean that that's a building code issue, which I agree with. I mean, I totally agree with you Yeah, I my My thinking is if we could get in front of it At this level before they develop a full set of plans and can at least investigate it. I think it would be Help them out instead of getting A couple tens of thousands of dollars in the design and realize well, we got to Change something so As it relates to the other item about the metal seam roof being exposed, I'm actually completely fine with that I think it looks good. So Those are my comments Michael Great. Yeah, feel the same way about the standing seam roof I'm I'm really good with the materials and the organization of the materials and the elements on the West and south facades I'm going to be the I'm going to be the problem guy for the north and east sides And the design, you know, our design guidelines talk about four-sided architecture and absolutely on the north side There's there's lip service to a four-sided architecture And not on the east side I'm not worried about the industrial building that's there today at all My experience right now and what I do is an industrial buildings like that and Residential areas like this in proximity to trans that are being torn down on a regular basis and housing is being built so My concern is not about Two years from now when you guys open or 10 years from now It's it's the idea that that I believe that this facade will end up probably facing a residential apartment project or something of that nature I don't know who the tenant is in the building. I didn't go look. I don't know who owns it But my experience working around the bay area and la and Other locations is that these types of buildings are disappearing quickly We're housings needed. So I don't I don't know that I don't know that I would be asking for a lot more than maybe A little more consistent rhythm Uh and and a little bit more of the scoured stucco Mixed in with the corrugated on the north side and I would love to see it just turn the corner on the east side so that there was Just a a future-proofed Elevation that had a little bit more of what we look for in four-sided architecture I don't think it takes a lot compared to what's here Um, I could almost see pulling some of the narrow panels a couple, you know, maybe adding a narrow panel Getting those organized and then maybe turning the corner with a good expanse at the end and and On the north side a little bit better expanse. Maybe that matches the west corner and then just turning the corner So that would be my comment about how to get to four-sided architecture here Not reinventing anything or new materials and again, I bring up my point that We've got to make a decision for the long term here in santa rosa And I you know, I just wouldn't count on that industrial building being there for the long haul. So Point taken and we have talked with the neighbor to the north And they're an out-of-state owner and they are expressed to us that they're long-term holders But your comments not it may not be what's long-term right? It might no understood understood I would be interested to hear how other board members felt on that on that issue. So Thanks millie. Um, yeah, I'm in total agreement with mike I mean the east elevation is is an incredibly weak elevation in comparison to everything else Um, I do have a question though. I was thinking about it You mentioned the flooring store was three and a half feet And you mentioned that this is a foot off the property line So that gives us four and a half feet, which means you're less than five feet. So this has to be fire rated I'm assuming right Okay, so with a fire rated wall, there's you know We probably need to keep it flat Because it's it's a rated assembly and whatever's tested Etc. It says or etc. But to that end, um, I think we can You know, I would uh, I would agree with mike. I think turning the corner with some of the stucco Um, you know stucco assembly is a can be part of a rated assembly much like metal And and uh, it's really you know Stucco in fact is a more quote-unquote Durable fire rated material Uh, because it's cementitious unless you're planning on doing efis. But anyway, that's another here nor there Um, so the the problem I think with turning the corner potentially is now we've reduced our one foot Right because a stucco assembly is going to be thicker Than a corrugated metal assembly potentially um, so The the staff report said six inches minimum So now you'd be at four feet Plus or minus Uh, do you do you foresee that being an issue? Building design fire rating etc. I don't see it an issue for fire reasons But also the flooring store That's there now that's three and a half feet or so from the building Only runs about half the length of the eastern wall And so as we wrap the corner that At that northeast corner There's nothing there that's going to be a problem for that Slightly reduced dimension you're talking about Yeah, so I would I would agree. I think you could probably turn the corner Up until you hit the flooring store with stucco And then keep everything In plane with the metal side, you know the vertical corrugated metal assembly and then In the rear at the north side you could probably turn the corner with stucco on that Because you do have a bump out On That north elevation You actually have two bump outs three bump outs really um, and so i'm wondering You know if if there's a A taste for a material change With the bump outs in addition to kind of the The rhythm because then you'd actually have a really Pretty clear rhythm stucco metal stucco metals stucco metals stucco metals stucco Um if that makes sense I think that makes a whole lot of sense To to kind of amp that side up and make it feel a little more balanced scale wise Because the huge swaths of metal I think you're just going to make it feel really industrial and big and So michael's point You know what if Right, what if a residential Anyway, so I would encourage Dressing up the materials a little bit on the north elevation The other comment I have elevation wise is Um, I don't have a problem with the west elevation and kind of the the faux Kind of overhead door. I mean that's that's that's the signage, right? That's the hey, this is a storage facility here Um, it's done everywhere. Uh, what's nice about it on the west elevation is the doors are below The coping cap On the south elevation on the east side you have a similar bump out component signage Great don't have a problem with it But your overhead doors are above your parapet cap your coping cap so it feels A little contrived and fake in that regard So I would recommend that coffee park storage signage element Just come down a little bit so that way everything's Even though it's fake It looks real if that makes sense um The only other thing I would uh, I think I have two more comments I'm not a huge huge fan of uh wood tile just personally um I'm just curious if if you guys looked at um, you know actually using you know redwood or cedar or something Uh, or maybe thermally modified wood We we just saw a project with thermally modified wood not too long ago Instead of the tile, um, so I would You know may even actually save you a couple bucks to do that But I know maintenance is a concern right the tile is pretty low maintenance power washing call today um, so I would I would just say I would recommend a real wood But I totally understand if you would want to go with the tile and I'm not going to make you do anything different It's just more of a recommendation And then uh, the only other thing I noticed um, and this is just Me as an architect, uh, I think the restroom that's accessible from the office That has the pass through that might be an ADA violation um So you may want to consider flipping the door that goes from the office into the restroom Just don't want you to get it hung up and plan check But I don't think that meets code And are you concerned about the clearance in front of the toilet? Is that what you think? Yeah, yeah, the clearance in front of the toilet. Yeah in california. You got to have that 48 inches clear Yeah, I think we did it right to the limit. So okay, cool. Yeah, just it's just a I don't think we would add that to the conditions. It was just more of a I don't want you to get it hung up and plan check Why something small like that? We could always flip the door. Did you say flip the door? Yeah, I just said flip it Yeah, so that way it opens into the office and then you're done. Yeah problem solved Other than that, uh, this is one of the most uh, complete packages For a self storage facility. I've ever seen the sequel documentation is insane I was looking through it. Um, so just really great job from your applicant team Uh Yeah, there's a lot here um for something really simple. So I really appreciate it. Thank you very much for a great package I think that's make what makes it easier for us to say. Oh, well, this is great. Oh, this little tiny detail over here Um, photometrics are great the whole thing. So really appreciate a really complete package and Going after the checklist and everything. So thank you it just Want to know on that comment the door can swing into the water closet clear space To comply condition just in case So you won't have anything else um Do we have any Oh, let's see We need a vote I I think we need to I would like to work on a condition around the north and east elevations Okay Yeah, and I I would like to just include a consider You know on that that ceramic tile As well just make it simple All right And the the door what I don't know if anybody else agrees on the the door thing The fake door the overhead door condition. I don't know if anybody else agrees. What should we condition that? As well Ernest saying yes No, I that was that was a good idea. Um I would I would support a consider for both of those Both of those items If someone like to state this Mike you want to take the the elevation one and I'll take the other two. Yeah um I would like to I'd like to approach the north and the Shall provide Additional stucco wall section On the north elevation including The addition of stucco wall section at the east corner Of the wall elevation Returning to the east elevation Do we need to Do we need to articulate that you can't just turn the whole thing into stucco? I think uh, maybe maybe for the next maybe to close up the resolution say, um Create A pleasing rhythm of stucco And metal siding god, I wish warren could have crafted that He would love the rhythmic part Yes Did you type it amy? I was I want to make sure though that I have this right So are we just going with the last sentence create? No, that was the second that that was an additional sentence. Yeah Okay, so I have most of it, but I have one question So what I have is shall provide additional stucco wall section on the north elevation Including The Return east corner return. No actually in including The north or the east end of the north elevation Including the okay east end of the north Elevation returning to the east elevation Back in room seven. We just used to sit at a table and sketch this stuff and say Go have fun. It's different Okay, so shall provide additional stucco wall section on the north elevation Including the east end of the north elevation returning to the east elevation And then the second sentence is create a pleasing rhythm of stucco and metal siding Perfect. Okay Should section be plural? Please make section plural Michael did you get the uh I guess the south elevation returning to the east As well as part of that or no because there's like a Like a foot a foot ish between the flooring store and the i'm okay over there That's yeah to me that whatever's going to happen over there that flooring stores It you know parcel's not the scale of the other parcels. So i'm okay with that Ernest did you have something? No Did you say something about the door? Yeah, I have two considers which I think will be easy um So I would just say consider alternate material choice In lieu of Wood look ceramic tile So if they want to change it they can change it and then staff, you know, they're not beholden to Or if they want to keep it the same And then the other one would be uh consider Consider alignment Of a roll-up doors Hang on. Let me try this again consider consider Roll up door header alignment Sorry, let me try this again. Sorry No, I got it consider roll-up door alignment below coping cap On south elevation East East side of the building East east end east end of the building not east side east end. I think that should do it Vice chair. I have it. I just want to make sure I think I missed a word. So consider roll-up door alignment Roll-up door header alignment roll-up door header alignment below coping cap Below adjacent coping cap That's a good way to do that I know it's a little nitpicky. It just Looks silly to me cope and cap coping cap adjacent coping cap Cap flashing coping cap. Okay Yeah on south elevation East end east end of the building east end of south elevation I would say east end east end of south elevation. Okay Okay, thank you Would someone like to modify the resolution I'll do it Uh, I move to accept the friendly amendments as read And vic I accept and I approve Did you second I accept and approve. Okay. Thank you Now we'd like to do a vote board member birch I Board uh board member libtak I Board member with rich I Vice chair weigel I Chair drones carter I So that was moved by board member libtak and seconded by board member birch and that motion passes with Five eyes and two absences Thank you very much for your time today Please note that the action is final unless a lip an appeal is filed with a planning and economic development department within 10 calendar days of today's decision pursuant to zoning code 20 dash 62 0.030 This meeting of the design review board is now adjourned


Hi students, welcome to Year 12 Chemistry and Module 5, Equilibrium and Acid Reactions. This is video number 19 and we're going to be talking a little bit about determining some of the solubility rules. In actual fact, most of what we're going to be doing here is trying to determine how we use these rules to tell us a little bit about what happens when substances are dissolved in water. So we know that not all ionic substances are equally soluble in water. Some are very soluble, some only slightly soluble and some dissolve to such small concentrations as to be virtually insoluble. So how do we know? Well there's two main ways that we can determine whether or not a particular ionic substance is going to dissolve in water and also to what extent. The first one you will do in class, obviously we can't test every single combination of ions to determine whether they're all soluble and to what extent, but we will be able to run a range of different types of tests to give you an idea of which substances do actually form precipitates and you've already started that process of looking at different types of precipitation reactions. The other way is to have a look at some of the rules for precipitates. If we can have a general way of trying to figure out when we have two substances being mixed together whether we can eliminate some of the ions and see if what we have left over actually forms a precipitate then that's probably the easiest way to do it. Up until now most of these ions have been given to you in tables but we need to start to work on ways of seeing if we can memorise some of the general rules to just help us a little bit with some more common examples. One of the most important things when you are carrying out this sort of activity is to identify the spectators. So there are certain ions which remain in the solution. They will not form a precipitate, usually they don't form a precipitate at all and therefore we can eliminate them from our conversation. So the first thing that we need to do is if we have a combination of solutions such as potassium chloride and silver nitrate then what we need to do firstly is say okay the potassium chloride is going to dissociate into potassium ions and chloride ions and the silver nitrate is going to dissociate into silver ions and nitrate ions. So that's all good. But then we need to have some rules and those rules are the ones that are really important because they help us to determine what happens next. Well one thing you may remember is the group one metals form soluble salts. So that means that potassium being a group one metal is always going to form something that is soluble so therefore it's not going to be part of a precipitate. One other general rule that we may remember is that all nitrates are soluble therefore nothing nitrate will form a precipitate either so we have a nitrate over here so it disappears. So our green circled substances over here are our spectators. They're going to remain in the solution and not form a precipitate so we can eliminate them. So what that leaves us with therefore we have the silver ion and the chloride ion and then we need to determine from the level of solubility whether or not there will be a precipitate. If the concentration of ions is greater than the solubility then we will have a precipitate.


Oh, we're live. Hey, hey, buddy. Thanks. Sorry. I've been counted in there. I was waiting for the number one great So thanks everyone. I think about 25 minutes and this is my presentation called how project Zoe is opening up the mainframe the mainframe This is a Linux conference Linux foundation a lot of open source It's probably a little bit weird to see mainframeers pitching up here made people don't often think of the mainframe as a open platform so I I am just apologies if I don't operate this. Let me hit the next button Cool. Okay. So this picture means put in my family. I'm on the right the left of the picture when you're looking at it Anyway, um, and that is my there's my lovely family Oh The the sort of teenager the kind of 19 year old with the sort of he's got more hair than me Although I used to when I was that age anyway, um That's my son Jared and like all parents or teenagers, you know, I was a teenager once So I know it's hard being a teenager and I have a Teenage son. So, uh, you know, you have that kind of father-teenage relationship where it's kind of a little bit standoff It's he's quite an upturnal tends to sort of stay awake At night and sleep in the daytime and things like that. So but there's one one thing that he and I both enjoy We both enjoy movies. We both enjoy superhero movies and Japanese anime and so forth and there's a fabulous movie it came out in 2018 It's called spider-man into the spider burst. So people haven't watched it cracking film The basic backstory for the film Somebody gets bitten by spider. They turn into the spider-man. It's not your typical spider-man story It's actually I won't reveal too much about it. But if you look at this particular scene here the spider-man You know kid growing up having to prove he's worthy of being the new spider-man That's actually him on the very left of this picture as you're looking at it It's called Miles Morales. He meets other spider people from other universes And there's a point in the movie most movies have a bit called the hero's journey Where the hero has to challenge and prove that he's worthy to be to be the hero in the movie anyway So Miles Morales has been challenged by all these other spider people As to whether he's he's he's able to and he's got some doubt within himself And he's kind of in his basement of his auntie and stuff like that And they're all throwing lines at them. There's a wonderful line that Penny Parker who's one of the spider people throws at him And I was watching this movie with my son and we were just sitting eating popcorn You know, we hadn't mentioned pretty much a word to each other and the line in the movie where they're all throwing challenges They're saying, you know, can he jump to walls? Can you do backflips? Can you you know, can you fight evil baddies and nine dimensions? They say Penny Parker says can you rewrite a mainframe while being shot at? And I love that line Because it kind of shows that First of all, if you know anything about mainframes You're worthy of being a superhero because I have this kind of mystique of being incredibly difficult hard to operate Um, and also I love it because my son at that point he turned to me and he said that Can you were our mainframe we're being shot at and I had this just for about five seconds I had this really cool connection where He thought that I was kind of like a superhero because I worked on mainframes Anyway, but it made me realize it made me think Um, my son doesn't know a lot about mainframes. A lot of people don't know a lot about mainframes So that kind of leads me into where to where I thought I'd kick off this talk So a little bit about some mainframe trivia here. I won't repeat it all for you I'm not here to sell you a mainframe, but the most interesting thing for me about mainframes I personally work on mainframes and open source Um, it's a bottom line most people working on a mainframe have never seen one and that's true today I meet people who work on mainframe computers and have worked on them for perhaps 30 years Fabulous careers never tiring Some of some and now and I say to them When was the last time you actually saw a mainframe apart from perhaps being in a trade show or you know on a video or something Have you ever seen your company's mainframe and the answer is no they probably haven't or it's like the other side of the world Perhaps in a you know, or even if it's in their office. It's in some data center in a basement or something anyway, so It's incredibly it's a computer platform. That's still quite Unfamiliar to us. We haven't often seen it. So for the next picture um The vision that a lot of people have on mainframe computers is kind of like the left hand picture It's sort of black. It's white. It's got tape decks people see it through hollywood movies This is my son's percepts of the mainframe and penny parkers if there's kind of sort of superhero test platform It's actually a fairly modern machine. It's it's a thing on the right hand side um Sometimes the mainframe often people say obviously it's old. Yeah, it's old. It's been around for 55 60 years, but Porsche 911 target. Um, that's not an old car. It's been around for the same amount of time. Okay. Um My current car is actually an old car. It's actually I just got a 12 year old car But the ultimate bill engine has been around for what 100 years or something like that. So, um, so When you when when technology started Obviously things move on the world moves on, you know engines get better the Porsche 911 gets better and the mainframe gets better So so one of the reasons this kind of perception of age really comes from the fact that people haven't seen it They haven't seen what the modern mainframe is like the modern mainframe has a lot of open source running on it And that's where I get to with this was taught project Sorry A lot of people when they see the mainframe when they picture it they picture this which is a bunch of green screen, you know a little bit of red and blue on here It's a very sort of text based interface and So some people I know who work on the mainframe. This is actually what scares them away from it Because it's obviously it's not modern. It's not drag and drop. It doesn't have gooey's it doesn't have Help text it doesn't have rich graphics and stuff like that. So sometimes people Date it based upon How it looks okay, which is very true as well Right if you if you look at some a building or or anything like that or piece of music or something often You date it by by how it looks or how it sounds. Okay, doesn't internally mean that it's still it's all an old system Okay, so one of the interesting things my background when I grew up I grew up kind of I was kind of like a sort of 70 80s kid, you know, I graduated from university in about 1988 um and at the time um A little bit of animation on this slide uh folks This is a pretty simple os2 os2 warp um os2 warp and this is windows 3.1 on the bottom right hand side And even if mainframe is great technology being great technology Doesn't win often sucky technology and windows 3.1 was sucky technology at the time It was technically inferior. It wasn't 32 bit multitasking. It wasn't protective memory. It was crash. Yadda yadda yadda It won the war and it made microsoft Phenomenal companies that they are now they're a huge company and are actually very active and open source as well So i'm not attacking them as a company, but at the time this was at the inferior platform one and history is riddled with that even if you look at Uh tv shows right now reality tv shows, you know, um the people who come second or third In singing talent shows often become go on to become the the best stars and often people don't remember Um, you know, perhaps a person who had the best voice or something um, sometimes technology really is a popularity contest and The reason i believe at the time when i was i University i had a choice between using one of these two platforms in my heart I knew that os2 was a superior platform Um, but i tend i became a windows developer But actually for the first 12 years of my career And one of the reasons was because as a developer it was a very welcoming community There's a lot i could do on microsoft windows. It had a developer program. There were lots of apps on it It ran games, you know, i could i could you know, it was it was a more welcoming And ultimately the number of games on the platform the amount of software you've got is what makes your platform successful And this story is as old as time. I've got a picture of vhs versus beta max. It doesn't matter what generation you're in I've got um Games consult here. I've even got coffee pods on the right right the coffee pod There's this coffee pod forwards going right now between the espresso or currid I tend to add an espresso coffee maker.  I buy an espresso coffee maker People tell me it's not as good as the other one. I don't care. It makes the coffee I like the games I like to play and the videos back in the 1980s 1990s when I was watching videos I were available on vhs cassette. So I had a vhs player. Okay You've got to have the platform You've got to have people building stuff for your tech for you to be successful Okay, this brings me up to linux foundation. Most people here should know about linux foundation. It's a linux foundation Or open source summit conference. It runs ton of very cool enterprise software that's ultimately Open source Jenkins no and we have the zoe logo here in the bottom left of that kind of northeast pile And zoe is an open source project owned and managed by the linux foundation Little bit of background. We have a wikipedia page. Um, we're about um, just a little over two years old And if I look at the timeline Just coming up recently we Created what is known as an active long term support release people who work on node will be familiar with that It means we're kind of stabilized and we're a little bit settled Which sort of happened in about march and there was a press release just I think last week ago So our first year of kind of growing up, you know, when we're in some diapers kind of burping You know calling around really trying to get ready that was last year We added a lot of stuff in now and now we're ready to be sort of enterprise I'm going to cover a quite a bit of speed just because I only have About 25 minutes for this talk some of the key points about what we have within zoe um first thing Everybody should remember I actually personally worked for IBM IBM pays my salary, but um, I worked for IBM For Zoe which is owned and managed by the linux foundation. Um open mainframe project. It is an open source Um open source, you know, collaboration all of our meetings are open Uh, we have elections to various, um groups called the zoe leadership committee, which unfortunately be part of You know, we don't do things in private and secret So as an IBMer that feels quite odd sometimes because at IBM we used to do lots of things It's kind of in private and secret. Um before we announced it That's not how things work with our open source. Um, we create releases once a month. We're continuous integration So if there's something that people don't like, um And they can get to that some slack and get look at all of our source code Join any meeting they want to look at all of our issues Um, uh, we may have a fix within a month. Um for for issues So we tend to be quite nice continuous integration continuous delivery And I think our customers tend to like that for something that they raise We tend to fix it quite early on First we have a number of components. I'm going to rattle through them quite a bit at speed The first component we have is called the zoe explorer The zoe explorer for both uh, first you use vs code And these are studio code. Um, it's a plugin for vs code And if you think back to my initial, um saying about, you know, sometimes people take the mainframes old because it has this kind of You know, very gash jarring sort of green screen. Um You can go into, um, uh vs code. Uh, you just go into an extensions with a little tab on the On the bar on the left click zoe explorer download it and install it and Barely quickly within, you know, followed instructions. You're looking at this So rather than that slide 16, let me just go back and I'm gonna do a kind of Double click. Yeah, it worked for me. Boom. This is this is your 55 year old mainframe And there are still customers who who operate the mainframe like this and enjoy it, but I work with folks who are, uh, you know, actually, uh, youngest of my youngest son, right? The youngest of my 19 year old I was watching the uh, the spider-man movie with They basically don't don't want to use this right, you know Every generation wants to use the tech that they grew up with especially because that's three years in a kombsky course Learning uh vs code and vs code is great for node get integration Phenomenal phenomenal product, you know, this is a more familiar environment and you can actually achieve Uh, the same level of functionality, you know, you can work with a file system and you can submit jobs and do various So and so forth things. This is a very important piece of dough called the zerry explorer okay, um I'm just gonna fuss. Yeah, well, there are other plugins as well. Zerry is a community So the zerry explorer has a plugin that's I think called the IBM z open editor. There's something called hcl tools Thinking back to my analogy about phs versus beta max or the coffee pods It's not good enough to just have like you've got to have a thing that other people want to extend and expand The specific squad within zoe. It's just got created recently which shows kind of how dynamic zoe is That's really about trying to create it. So there are plugins to the zerry explorer itself. So again, even though it's open source It's not a closed box that only we manage The omp manager so you can plug in very successful a little story. I'm going to tell I'm just keeping an eye on the time um Most of us are you know stuck at home, right with a pandemic Obviously, uh, you know depending on where you are following different sort of lockdown rules and stuff So I'm at home at the moment. Um, one of the things about the kobi 19 pandemic is that We've got animation on the slideshow. This is really good um For those of you that follow the news if you're on twitter or linked in or just following a different sort of tech news from um The mainframes and cobalt, which is a software language for the mainframe um There's a lot of pressure on um, u.s. Uh systems running on the mainframe Okay, and because of that pressure and I think that there's a very uh, that's a this I'll just repeat that statistic So march the 29th of april of 14th Seven weeks that's one week the number of people filing unemployment in just new york has gone up by 2700 percent since last year and that's just a very You know anything we can do to help that anything anybody can do to address that is obviously a very noble thing to do um the uh And one of the things I think it's uh, we need Phil murphy. I think he was a Governor of new york, new jersey. I'm not quite sure what basically said we need cobalt developers You know our systems are under stress our systems under duest, you know, and there was just a call to the community and you can see the number of um job applications and interest for cobalt like a little graph in the what be the southeast corner of this Slide, so I like to say also southeast bottom right hand corner um, so you can see a number of cobalt developers massive demand for cobalt developers and um So I'm just going to click forward. Uh, there was a training course that was created by uh Using the zoe explorer to try and teach people cobalt and you can see a lot of headlines and I'm just throwing a few up here look at the animation about cobalt being given a new life and there are video courses now on Uh, using learning cobalt. This is a particular one here given by my colleague called Jeff Visti um April of 14th was when the cobalt training course was released using the zoe explorer and on the day it went out It already had 52,000 views And there's a picture of Jeff up here and they have cobalt fridays. Anyway, so one of the things I love about working on Zoe is the fact that When there's a need to do something and need to create cobalt education Very quickly it was able to pivot with the open mainframe project and create videos and they have cobalt fridays And it's all done using vs code. So people who like using vs code want to become cobalt developers Transfer their skills across there's just a great range of activity from youtube to Collaboration training courses and it's just a good new story. I wanted to share with people Okay, so let me get back on track the zerry command line interface i'm gonna do a little bit of Now this is interesting. So vs code nice rich gooey twisty click edit github push, you know get pull get like Fabulous fabulous product. How to have everybody who's worked on that another interesting thing about modern computing platforms is Command line interfaces. So I use git I have gooey's for using git But I spend a lot of my time actually doing git status and get branch and get checkout and get push and get fact and get merge and Say but I tend to write things in a command line It right. I use a mac. I use a shelf and it's quite interesting. I do the same with docker Right. Yeah, do the same with aws. I'm the web services So this is kind of lowest common denominator if you can do things in text It's good. First of all, it means you can just type them But it also means you can script them and you can automate them and you can You know, you can programmatically drive a computing interface and there is something nice about a command line interface because if you Even if beneath your command line interface, you're actually talking across rest or you're doing HTTPS or something like that You know being able to submit You know do posts and puts and get and deletes and you know past JSON objects and stuff That's a lot of boilerplate code. It's a lot easier to just crank it out in English Now one of the things that I like about the zerry command line interface So we have a thing called the zerry command line interface first of all I should have done that there's a very big successful component than zerry And you download it the same way you were downloaded, you know a docker client or a git client or something like that You basically download our zerry command line interface. It's built upon no You just type in the command zerry, but what I like about it is it's um If I go I'll just go back one more if you look at when I typed in the command zerry It tells me everything I can do so if I looked on the bottom it says config plugins profiles, you know Jobs etc and that there's something there called files Now I don't know what to do about files. I just typed zerry files and it reveals Just what I need to know When I need to know it so I typed zerry files and it says well, what do you want to do? And I can look at this and it says zerry files list and I'm like cool I want my list of file and then I just typed zerry files list. Maybe I want to pick two files zerry files And hang on this platform boom. Here we go zerry files list It's a what kind of files you'd like to look to the main frame. I said multiple types of files as a unix file system another file system called data sets and things There's a little bit older, but then they just used to store different types of data um So zerry files list and then I typed zerry files list ds And then it gives me some some examples and I dug dory files list ds And I qualify and it gives me a list back so very quickly just rattling through what's nice about the zerry command line interface is You don't have to remember all the commands, right? You're not going to make a mistake As you ask it and as you type incomplete commands, it tells you what else you need to know I used to work with someone in Uh, who was a documentation and they had a thing called progressive discovery and it's but it feels very progressive It feels a bit like I love google Chrome google is my go-to search engine because It it you know It's it's blank until I start typing things in and when I start typing things in it reveals information to me I remember back in the day with other search engines and you went in before you typed anything It told you the weather where you were and you know, it told you it was kind of like a sort of massive, you know Load of information coming flying out the screen at you and I haven't even told you what I want to know yet And you're telling me all this stuff. Maybe, you know, I haven't asked to type the weather Anyway, so what I like about the zerry command line interface is that it just tells you what you need to know when you want to know it so And a quick slide and show you here. It's just this is standard unix shell script and it's very useful for automation so again If I know how to write shell script There are samples by the way using the zerry command line interface using other scripting languages as well You know like Then I can very easily type in a sort of fairly similar Type syntax and I can operate the mainframe and I haven't got near a green screen. I haven't had to learn You know all this great green screen technology. I'm just writing a command line interface okay And a few other things I want to very quickly show the command line interface is extensible So you can build plugins for the command line interface think back to my initial thing about vhs versus beta max or coffee pods If nobody's filling your coffee pods, nobody's going to buy coffee makers, right? Got me. I haven't got the movies. So there is a program a conformance program a bit like sort of ready for zerry you think about You know getting stuff into an app store so you can build plugins for zerry Another zerry thing that's quite neat. I want to talk about is That there's this is a web desktop and the web desktop sounds a bit like an oxymoron But basically if you have zerry installed on your mainframe computer You can just log on from a browser. You don't need any other client software installed You don't need you just need your browser works in chrome or firefox isn't me running in chrome in incognito mode um, and you can see it's got little series of um Apps at the bottom. There's about four little tiles. You can see I've got a 32 70 emulator if I want to I can do that Zerry's got modern interface, but it's not leaving behind other people And I've also got a nice modern interface like so you can do file editing old and the next slide I'm going to show you it's extensible these are just richer A bit like when you first get a phone a phone would have a few apps on it perhaps a calculator Perhaps a web browser and a conference But you can go to your phone app store and just get more stuff and download it And again with a conformance program backing you can go to zerry and you can get more apps on zerry Okay, I needed the samples of apps that you can get onto zerry Okay So i'm just going to quickly wrap up so zerry is open source code at zerry.org It's all of our source code is on github.com slash zerry This is a picture of our artifact repository, which is where we hold builds and our jenkins pipeline No passwords are needed to access that obviously you need to elevated permissions if you want to start doing things like manipulating the pipeline or or you know or You know approving pull requests or so forth or you know uploading to artifact tree But you can read access to anything that we have out there There's no Secret source as well. We this is our calendar. So you can join any meeting for any squad This is our slack. We have a slack workspace, which is where people can interact with the community and I'm just going to wrap up there. I think If people have questions by the way, um Then please go and I think there's a q and a thing at the bottom And uh, you can ask a question. I'm just going to go there now to see if anybody has asked a question So either i'm operating it wrong or else nobody's asked a question, but uh If anybody wants to ask a question by the way after this if you don't have if there's something that I left off uh Please just go to zoe.org and on zoe.org you'll see all of the links to where you can get to slack channels and mailing lists and um We all hang out on those so if you need any help youtube is great if you go to youtube there's phenomenal videos um, if you go to zoe, there's a click to the documentation the documentation is very very useful as well um And uh, if you can't find what you're looking for, um, just please go ahead. Okay So I have a question as an old system programmer how to get involved So we love system programmers, and I'm sorry if I appeared at all sort of agist. I'm kind of old myself You know, I haven't got much hair on top of my head. Um, so Basically good at zoe.org and I really really enjoy working with Uh experience main framers when we first released zoe We had a lot of issues where we weren't using saff key rings correctly And there were certain issues to do with zos security that we didn't understand We didn't have a chapter on Workflow management WLM and all of those were actually contributed by experienced people um So great question, but basically go to zoe.org and I think we even have a link on there called getting involved or getting started I've got another question. I'm new to this, but I'm a network engineer. I love mainframes how to get started Again the same thing go to zoe.org this slack workspace Probably all of us if I mean I tend to drown in emails. I when email first came I was I used to live in emails now. I live in slack I'll be honest. I live in slack. I find it much easier So not everybody has slack and apologies for that, but there is a client for your phone If your laptop is about enterprise laptop and they and they don't allow you to deploy it You can also run it in a browser as well Um, but slack is is the place to go to and if you can't get to slack Open mainframe project is on is on LinkedIn. It's on Twitter So you can reach out to people there and there's some great discussions going on there um The other thing I just wanted just very quickly my last point one of the problems with the mainframe is sometimes It's chicken and egg. It's that if you want to get involved with the mainframe You have to be hired by a company that's got a mainframe before you can log on to the mainframe Because you know that that's sort of big big computers like we said I mean big, you know credit card. I know probably the world's largest credit company I think it's only got like two mainframes Um, but then it's chicken and egg thing because then how do you become a mainframe? So if you go to zoe.org You'll find out you can get access to a mainframe. So there's that cobalt training course I talked about beforehand if you join that Which is on the link for zoe.org or cobalt training course You will get your own access to a mainframe virtual machine Which is your own private sandbox and there's also a link on zoe.org that says I want I want to have access and you'll get It's called z trial. So it's running in the public cloud You're given your own credentials The first thing you're going to do when you log on is change it or insist you change your password It's not shared with anybody else all information you upload onto there Even the people running the systems can't see what you're doing with it So you can basically you knock yourself out at your own sandbox But obviously you have to keep renewing it because it does require some computing resources You can and after a while if you're not using it They're going to recycle it so you can get your own mainframe to basically kick around the block Awesome. I'm one minute over time.  Thanks everybody. Stay safe. All right. Take care


So in this video I want to find the notion of a Euclidean norm sometimes called a Euclidean function or Euclidean valuation map and With that we can then define what an Euclidean domain is. So first of all, let D be an integral domain So it's a commutative ring with unity and we have no proper divisors of zero We have the cancellation axiom just the usual definition of integral domain and then define New to be a norm that is it's a map from the non-zero elements of the domain to the natural numbers where zero is included in that Remember to be a norm we have to have the property that the norm of x is less than or equal to the norm of x y Where y is any non-zero element inside of the domain as well We say that a norm is a Euclidean norm Again, there's some other vocabulary people can use here We'll call it just a Euclidean norm in this situation A norm is Euclidean if for all elements a and b inside of the Non-zero elements of the domain there exist elements q and r which they could possibly be zero such that a equals qb plus r and in particular this this element r is itself either zero or It's a it has a norm that is strictly less than the norm of b now when you look at these things together this looks a lot like the Division algorithm we saw for integers which I haven't even finished the definition yet But the integers are very much the poster child of what a Euclidean domain is because a Euclidean domain is going to be any integral domain which we have a Division algorithm which of course let me finish the definition there a Domain d that's equipped with a Euclidean norm is known as a Euclidean domain And so essentially in a Euclidean domain, where does it get the name Euclidean a Euclidean domain will be a domain For which the Euclidean algorithm exists. We can actually compute the gcd between any two Elements using the division algorithm for which we've then have abstract What does that division algorithm means it means the following where we have this equation a equals qb plus r Whereas usual q you can think of as the quotient r is the remainder and the remainder should get smaller Either it's zero notice that in the definition of a norm. We don't actually define the norm of zero So the norm of the excuse me the remainder is either zero or the norm got strictly smaller And so this guarantees that when we do things like division or the Euclidean algorithm that the process will ultimately Terminate at some point or another So again Euclidean domains get their names because of the Euclidean algorithm And so we're trying to generalize the notion that we see of course with the integers now Another example worth noting here of course is the Gaussian integers that if we take the norm that we've been Experimenting with about the Gaussian integers that is the norm of a Gaussian integers just its absolute value squared You take the complex number times it by its conjugate you get a square plus b squared This is likewise a Euclidean norm and therefore you can use this norm to perform Division on Gaussian integers for finding GCDs some things that we'll talk about of course and just a little bit here likewise The ring Z join the square root of 2 it is an example of Euclidean domain for which its Euclidean norm Would be the following you're going to take the product of a plus b square root of 2 Multiply it by its conjugate a minus b times square root of 2 then you take its you take its absolute value That is you're going to get a real number a squared minus 2b squared And you take that absolute value whether it's positive negative it'll take its absolute value this gives us that Z you join the square root of 2 is likewise a Euclidean domain I'm going to leave it up to the viewer to prove the details of some of these things that in fact We do have that these are Euclidean domains now I have to caution you when it comes to a Euclidean domain to be a Euclidean domain You have to have that a norm is Euclidean Built into the definition of Euclidean norm excuse me Euclidean domain is not a specific norm It's possible that when you have a certain norm on a domain that norm might not be Euclidean But it could still be a Euclidean domain because some other norm makes it equivalent makes it a Euclidean domain So one has to be cautious because given any interval domain one could have countlessly be different non-equivalent norms, so When we talk about Euclidean domains, we don't necessarily have a specific norm in mind You could replace a Euclidean norm with another equivalent Euclidean norm Of course, there's going to be some canonical examples like we've seen right here But this actually makes it somewhat difficult to prove that a domain is Euclidean or not because if we struggle to find a Euclidean norm that doesn't mean it doesn't exist It just means that it might be hard to find and so to prove that an integral domain is not Euclidean often requires that we then Prove that that norm doesn't exist which can be a hard feat to do at times


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