Welcome to Psychic Medium Tony Green the evening edition. Okay you guys we are gonna get started straight away. So here we go. First and foremost I want to thank everybody joining me here today. This evening this Wednesday evening if you are watching live and you would like to call in the call-in numbers 8-845-277-9131. You can call in and ask a question about life, love, career, relationship or connect with a loved one on the other side. If you are on YouTube watching you can post a question in the chat with the rest of us who are already in the chat talking and Kate asked what is her song for the day and Kate your song is give me a second here because I write as the show went to start I realized I didn't have a beverage with me and I ran to get a beverage and unplugged the computer and it was a whole thing with 15 seconds left until the show started so there's that and then jumped back on and yeah it was a it was a whole thing trying to plug in the computer and then I realized the beverage I thought I had ready the water I thought I had ready empty all of that and it's empty I need I need I need a man boy here to go get me some water or whatever I need somebody to get me some water anyway I think I'm funny don't don't don't don't don't laugh at my bad humor because it will make me tell more inappropriate bad sad jokes okay if you okay again if you would like to call in the numbers<PHONE_NUMBER> if you are in the chat you can ask questions in the chat couple quick things I will never ever reach out to you I only have one YouTube page if you see any of my content on any other page that is not mine please report them and then let me know and I will never reach out to you and ask you if you want a healing or a clearing or I need a cash I don't even have a cash out I don't I don't have any of that stuff so don't be tricked fooled scammed ripped off none of it don't just don't do it don't don't nope nope nope nope nope nope okay I for those of you who are new to the show I start with names and then songs and then a little bit of channeling and then go into answering questions the names could be your name or the name of a person on the other side that is saying hey so we're gonna start with names and the first name I'm hearing is Jerome and then the next name I'm hearing is like Lila I think I heard this on Monday show too I can't remember if Lila was on Monday show and then Rebecca Erica wow they're coming in fast tonight again Lila Lila we've got you we got you Lila once once it's enough let everybody else have a turn the name Melissa Maribel Dawn now this could be your name there it could be the name of a loved one on the other side or again it could be your name a loved one reaching out and letting you know by saying your name and then I'm only gonna do two more names and the name David and then the name Greg or Gregory is coming through okay now I'm gonna do songs the songs could be a song they loved a song you loved or something that you listen to together and the song could also be the answer to a question or a situation that you are going through and the first song is that song I went so far I and something something and in the end it didn't even matter and I do know that song but for some reason I can't think of all the words right now I used to sing that I used to say that statement I used to say that song as a statement to a friend so it's ironic that it's come I came so far and then not not and in the end it didn't even and tried so hard and in the end it didn't even matter ironic that I'm hearing that as a song for tonight show the next song that I'm hearing is Jesus I can't make this poop up jingle bells jingle bell jingle bell jingle bell rock it's the jingle bell rock one so there's that the next song I'm hearing is that song rock around the clock we're gonna rock around the clock tonight okay and then jazz any jazz and then that country song I'm gonna need some whiskey glasses to see me through yeah that is not a good country train train I don't listen I can't sing pop rock country I just I can't but here we are right here we are and then miss I can't even get it out Missy Elliott I don't I don't think I know any of her songs but Missy Elliott Missy whatever Missy if somebody knows a Missy Elliott song could you please put it in the chat for me just so I can have a I know if I heard the song I would know the song but off the top of my head I'm not gonna go oh blah blah blah by Missy Elliott not happening not happening I can't even tell you who sings whiskey glasses or any of the songs that I have announced so far tonight okay we're gonna go into a really quick channeling I feel like tonight's channeling is gonna be a little bit shorter this is where the angels come in and speak directly to you through me to give you a message about life love or whatever it is and that's going on in your life right now now is the time for you to take control of your life you have but one life and now is the time for you to take back control of it it is time for you to decide where you want to be where you want to go and what you want to do do not let the forces words or actions of others prohibit your progress through your life you get put one time in this physical element that you are currently in make the most of this one time make sure that you are living that you are having the best possible experience for yourself and make sure that everything you are doing and the people that you are around are enlightening you bringing light to you making your light shine brighter as you make their light shine brighter if you are around people places or things that dim down your light please by all means excuse yourself pleasantly from them and move into environments where you are enlightened even if it means you must spend some time alone even if it means you must become the hermit or by yourself do not be afraid to be by yourself that does not mean you are not loved that means you are being prepared you are being brought to the right spaces the right tables the right buildings the right people you cannot hang out with the lower levels and expect to have a higher level experience you must by all means excuse yourself and remove yourself from inappropriate or lower experiences and we do not mean better than worse than we just mean not enlightened not having those enlightened experiences remove yourself from that and take yourself to a space where you are alone until you get back to your base and then once you are at your base once you are enlightened within you you will start to bring all of those that are enlightened around you being in solitude being by yourself for minutes hours days weeks months if necessary is where true enlightenment and connection comes from we are not saying that this should be your goal we are saying that if this is happening do not look upon it as a downtrodden experience it is an uplifting experience we will put you in solitude if we feel like you need to realign yourself with your highness with that that is above you that means you have gone too far down and we must pull you back up again embrace where you are while moving upward okay I really like that message I'm gonna re listen to that yay everybody yay okay so that is channeling all of the messages all of the messages that will be coming through today are either from loved ones and or your angels and or your guides I am not the boss of anybody I am not here to tell anybody what to do with their life even if it sounds like an order when it's coming out of my mouth it is not an order I am not telling you what to do with your life although I really wish I could but I can't run my own life so I'm not going to try to run your life oh I just felt oh my gosh you guys I just felt this really cool breeze run across my lap in my hand I feel dead people okay I also feel angels and a deep yearning to be loved but hey here we go again oh gosh I need to start thinking callers just to stop this just this just this okay I want to say hi to Scott at WSCS and thank you Scott for all the hard work you do to make sure that my shows get up on WSCS and on the on all of the channels your streaming channels and on your YouTube channels I want to thank Rudy from Rude Rangers TV for streaming all of my shows all the work you do to make sure my shows get out to all the streaming channels and the radio stations and the podcast that you put it out on thank you so much you guys for everything that you do so I want to also welcome some new people to the show I see well some newbies and some people who are always here so Terry's here Heather's here Genevieve's here Rebecca Aaron hey Aaron Kate Elizabeth Lolly hey Lolly Vaughn Jessica or Jake Francis and Genevieve I know there are other people but there's they're they're further up let me see maybe that is everybody I think that's everybody I'm sorry if I miss somebody if I miss somebody just put it in the chat and I'll get to you again the call in numbers eight four five two seven seven nine one three one once you call in hit that one I'm going to start taking callers in between callers I'm going to be answering questions in the YouTube chat so I'm going to try to get to everybody Caroline's here also Caroline I'm sorry I'm so sorry I missed you here we go nine five four um where are you from and what's your name I I guess I my name is Sharon and I'm from New York hey Sharon how can I help you today she's wondering if you see me um entering another job or maybe retiring and then going into another field right now I'm working part-time but I just want to you know go into something else so do you see that yeah kind of thing happening soon or yeah Sharon and I'm hearing that it's coming sooner than you think there's something coming in like you're on the cusp or the heels of it and Sharon the other thing I'm hearing and I just I believe in this so much for everybody I believe everybody should be a bit of an entrepreneur um in whatever way that that works for them so Sharon I feel like you are going to go into another position but I also feel like you're going to be doing some kind of passion project on the side for yourself and kind of I hear for yourself and by yourself so this might be something that you start on the side that's going to allow you to just be be your own boss it's not going to be full-time and this passion project could be it's very entrepreneurial and it is it's something that you've been wanting to do for a while whatever that is whether it's writing a screenplay or doing some creating something whatever it is Sharon that's coming in now now is the time for you to start complete do whatever you need to do with that but also on the other side of it there is a new work venture or opportunity coming in within a month which means that by the end of August you should at the very least know about this now you are going to have to pursue it it's not something that's going to land in your lap you're going to have to have your peepers peepers looking out for it you're going to have to really be open and looking for whatever this new opportunity is and I feel like whatever the opportunity is is going to really inspire your entrepreneurial side too so they kind of go hand in hand Sharon so I want you to pay attention to that and look for it and be ready for it okay love sounds great well thank you she did it absolutely my pleasure and whatever that passion project is whatever you've been thinking about or kind of had you know in the back of your mind I kind of like to do this start it and start it soon okay love okay okay we'll do thank you so much thank you so much for calling in and I hope it was helpful um I'm going to go directly to the first question that I can find on the chat so if you asked a question before I before I get to you um please I'm gonna go back to okay um I'm gonna answer uh this is from Erin hi Tony what do you see regarding my love life okay Erin um at the first thing I hear is it's it's kind of stagnant I don't know if you're with somebody right now I get a no not really but I hear it stagnant I do feel Erin if your your love life is going to be rejuvenated mid-august right around the 18th so whatever's going on in your love life there's the possibility or the potential for for rejuvenation around the 18th whether that means you and you know if you're with somebody being rejuvenated or somebody new coming in it's gonna it has the potential to happen around the 18th and Erin this is kind of crazy to me but I see like a softball game I feel like this is maybe you go to somebody softball game not like a professional baseball game but like like a kid's game or a whatever game and you have the potential to meet somebody there or that's just something you need to do because they're showing it to me the softball game so I think uh that those could be two different messages or it could be the same message either way partake in both and around the 18th everything in your love life should rejuvenate and doors should be opening again and I always say go slow when you're first meeting someone just because it's always better if you take your time in the beginning so you really get to know who this person is before you let your emotions take over and then you don't see things that you wish you would have seen in the beginning of the relationship okay I'm gonna go to the next caller when I say your area called please say your name and your where you're calling from and then have one solid question about life love career finances available or if you want to connect with somebody on the other side please let me know who you would like to connect with on the other side eight zero five eight zero five what's your name and where are you calling from regular donna in california how are you I'm good donna it's been a minute how are you nice and cobalt and lucas with an ocean front view room oh my god and pay for everything the airfare the room everything so that's nice of him that is amazing that's such a kind sweet sweet thing to do that's so amazing I everybody wants your brother everybody wants your brother to be their brother right now I'm just saying everybody's like I want a brother like that so that'll be nice and then I'm going to a wedding in Idaho in October um you know it's at the beach I had that epiphany I don't know if I told you where um I felt like the whole world opened up to me and it wasn't because there were clouds opening and closing there wasn't such a thing but I felt it in every cell of my body and so I'm expecting something life changing coming in because of that feeling that I had do you have any idea what that is maybe more money or a partner or well I'm traveling you know because I'm going to Idaho and Mexico okay I'm going to tell you I feel like in October something's going to completely open up for you and I don't know what this means but the floodgates will be taken down and all of this stuff will come in now that can be one they're not going to tell me what it is okay they're really not going to tell me what it is but I am going to say this to you Donna and because they're channeling it and it's a message for me you and everybody listening when we are continually asking for finances we're putting whether we're in a place of lack or not we're putting ourselves in a place of lack and when we're asking instead of proclaiming this is just what I'm hearing right now when we're asking then we are saying we don't have when we're proclaiming more of what we already have that's like that's how we're supposed to do it not like uh is money coming to me means it's always going to be coming but I have this and it's multiplying every day do you feel the difference in that statement so everybody listening everybody watching say is money coming to me and feel even my heart pounds a little bit and then when we say the money I have is multiplying every day it like opens in the space of a triangle like to the sky for me and like opens all of that up like is love coming to me feels like a shutdown like I'm asking am I going to get it and then it's always coming to me but never arriving where when I say the love I have in my life is multiplying every day the men I have in my life are multiplying every day oh my gosh okay things have changed all of a sudden all this stuff is coming in for me well I see it's it's all the and then and then make the statement um what I have is multiplying and I'm going to do a clearing for you and everybody listening and everybody watching that and the clearings are basically your angels coming in and healing anything stopping or blocking what we have from multiplying so everything we have as far as love and money is now multiplying every single day I get to know we're going to heal clear and release that if you guys are feeling this please let me know let me know anything stopping or blocking this or all that is caused and kept this has healed I'm getting a no right away so we're going to clear heal and release all that caused this all that kept it anything stopping or blocking it from going is going to be released now who we Chu Chi that is um really coming from that heart space and that throat space for me you guys let me know where you're feeling it and where you're it's releasing from you and we think like you know those of you who know about chakras we always think oh it's my it's my base chakra it's my this chakra it's always the heart everything is always love the amount of love you have for yourself is the amount you allow yourself the amount of love and respect and the amount to the to the degree that you believe you deserve is to the degree that you will receive and I will tell you this and make no mistake you can I'm going to tell everybody their exact comfort level with finances right now and love I'm going to do it in two different examples pay attention and you might not like me after this but you're going to love me because I'm going to also tell you how to fix this so the your comfort level with money is your what you have in the bank most often the amount so you might win $15,000 like Donna did and then in a very short period of time it will go back down to this amount and that is your comfort zone with money okay and how do you fix that once you get to that comfort zone with money open another account and then let that account get to that comfort zone and then another account and let that account get to that comfort zone most people your comfort zone where the amount you're comfortable with is the amount you will end up at that's why when you're picking a partner you had better pick a partner that has a very high comfort zone with money and that yeah that is so important and people don't realize if your partner even if you're not living together and they're always running at you know big amounts coming in but big amounts going out and always their their bank statement always has this amount in it that is their comfort zone until they get out of that comfort zone and they're in the comfort zone of having savings of this this and this amount you may end up if they're the stronger partner you may end up at their financial comfort zone now with love let me tell you about love when you grew up you had a certain amount of love that was shown to you or given to you and that's probably your comfort zone in love and you think that's what's normal now if somebody comes in and they try to really love on you you're gonna think what is wrong with this person this person is just waiting to whatever title you want to give that person and the truth of the matter is their comfort zone with love is completely different than your comfort zone with love and you need to get into that comfort zone where love is just way up there way up there like you're comfortable receiving all amounts of love in all of the different love languages and otherwise you'll keep attracting people that will show you how much you don't love yourself and in what areas or beliefs that you have a lack of love and when you see that heal it fix it address it don't blame them don't blame them fix it and then say next show me what I need to work on next or get me to that point where I can receive and accept that unconditional love from everyone comfortably okay Donna that's what I have for you today thank you so much for calling and I'm so grateful we were able to connect yeah likewise thank you appreciate it you're so every remember October is going to be a big month for you okay sweet girl yes thank you so much I appreciate it you are so welcome you are so so welcome if you'd like to call in and ask a question the numbers<PHONE_NUMBER> don't forget to push the one and then your hand will go up and I will get to you as soon as I can I'm going to go to the next question who I believe is from Elizabeth hi hope your week has been amazing it has been thank you any messages about my career am I living my life purpose not yet Elizabeth but you will be soon you're very close Elizabeth pop in the chat what you're doing now and I will tell you or what you're thinking about doing I think you're very close to your life purpose and remember we can have many life purposes so you like I was in fitness I was in modeling and I'm in this so all of those I was in promoting and marketing all of those were life purposes at the time and sometimes where we might be on the fringe or the binge of a new life purpose coming in also and I feel like Elizabeth whatever is next for you is going to connect what you're doing now and what it is they're going to connect okay beautiful I'm gonna scroll down a little bit to see Elizabeth put that in the chat for me and I will um she's a nurse but I don't want to be a nurse and no it is not see I was right I was right not your life purpose if you don't want to do it I want to travel own a business um so I can be free we all want to be free I think that if the past three years have shown us anything for some of us it's how free we want to be and how much we miss our freedom Elizabeth here's what I'm gonna say um Elizabeth there's a couple of things I'm getting in for you and one of them is that you could be a training like you could travel and train people and you might be able to do that with your nursing degree and I don't know to what extent but I do know that I'm hearing if you really want to travel you can travel and train people and it will be part of your nursing thing and some hospitals even have traveling nurses that travel not only through your area but even like doctors without borders need nurses that travel with them and yes they do get paid for that everybody gets paid for that in that situation okay just so you know um hey Cheryl is on oh my goodness hey Cheryl I am so happy to see you on here thank you Angelica is on um D uh I don't know how to pronounce this S I H L E I feel like I'm adding a letter or S H L Schlie Sibia Sibia I don't know what to call you I'm sorry please forgive me for not being able to pronounce that or get that right there's a light right in my eye so when I go from looking to looking here it's like craziness I'm just telling you craziness trying to I'm just going to call you Sibia Sibia welcome to the show um Patrick hey Patrick um Michael hey Michael so happy to see everybody on okay and the other thing I'm getting for you Elizabeth is consider going to nursing and aesthetics I feel like you will need some training for that but if you go into aesthetics you'll also have the freedom it's not like a regular nursing job where you have to be there 24 seven but you can get um you get paid better and you have more freedom and they need nurses to do all those injections and face procedures so that might be an option for you also Elizabeth I'm going to go to the next caller 347 and yes I am going back and forth between the chat and the the call so please be patient everybody 347 what's your name and where are you calling from hi Tony my name is Melvina and I'm calling from New York how can I help you beautiful I'd like to connect with my grandpa and his first name was uh his name was Alex Alex okay I need to ask you who's Joe because as soon as I said and his name was I heard Joe so is this somebody who's on the other side with him or somebody who's here with you I don't know any Joe okay that's okay that might be for somebody else but right now I'm going to connect with your grandpa and I am going to do you have a specific question for your grandpa um if he has any messages for me yeah he does the first thing that he would want to say to you is um I'm asking him to restate what he's saying sweetie I'm going to ask you a question before I give you this message is there something you've been questioning in your life like am I going in the right direction is this what I'm supposed to be doing or is this the relationship because all he keeps saying is tell her she's going in the wrong direction and I just am like really so please tell me is there something in your life you've been trying to figure out or trying to think should I change this um um I always think of what's next what should I strive for next that's always been my mentality okay so if I'm getting this correctly and I really really hope I am the biggest thing that he would say right now to you is he and again now he's saying it but he's saying it in a different way and what he's saying is change direction meaning if you are headed if if you're what's next if you've already decided if you're saying what's next and you decided on something he's saying no no no no no no there's something better there's something else go in that direction but I'm going to tell you if you're in something right now um it's time for you to change direction and go into something new he is really saying that it's just time for you to look at the direction you're going in and possibly look at doing something different or in a different way than what you're doing it right now and that's the message I'm getting for for you from him and I hope that makes sense to you if you are trying to figure out what your next step is he's asking you to do it sooner rather than later and if you are let's just say this is about for example not exact if this is about work start looking at other opportunities that would be available to you and where you can plant new seeds or something along that line and I know this might not make sense to you right now but it will make sense to you within the next week to a month I know that something so much you you are so welcome and I'm gonna I'm gonna use this opportunity to say sometimes people call in and I give them a message that seems so far from where they like I have no idea what that's about well sometimes that's the message it's a prediction it's something coming in and it's preparing you to know what's coming in next so you can make that solid move and I want to say he's saying one more thing don't be afraid to make the move whatever that move is don't be afraid to make it it's really easy to say what if it's worse what if it's less what but what if it's more what if it's better and that's the message your grandpa wants to bring to you okay love thank you so much I appreciate it absolutely my pleasure and when this all comes to fruition please don't hesitate to give a call back and join in again okay definitely thank you you are so so welcome okay I'm going to just take one quick I'm still answering questions of people calling in six three one you're going to be next on the call line but I have a question on the chat I'm going to answer first and I want you to know I do private sessions and my private sessions are extremely reasonable you can find out everything about my private sessions at tonig.info tonig.info and I go live every Monday at noon and I'm going to start going live every Wednesday at 7 p.m because I want to be able to hit the people who work you know during the day I want to be able to get them at night and the people who work at night I want to be able to get them during the day I want to like be able to reach everybody at different times if you do want to call into the show the numbers eight four five two seven seven nine one three one and I'm going to go to the next question online and the next question and I'm sorry if I missed your question please don't be afraid to repost it I'm going to go to the next person and the timeline keeps jumping down so please if I didn't get your question please don't be upset with me because the the conversation keeps going up in the chat and I am missing questions and yes Patrick thank you so much thank you everybody who has liked the show and subscribed um Angelica how do you oh how do you do the thumbs up there's a little thumb up button and you just pushed that I didn't know that was going to be your question everybody sorry um let me go back a little bit um to Elizabeth no I did Elizabeth uh I'm looking for the next question uh Sibia new here do you donations you can just ask a question and I will answer that for you love um in my bio there's a box if you really want to donate but you don't have to donate to ask a question you can just ask a question um Angelica wants to know when do you see me becoming a mom a year a year from now um I don't know if you're going to get pregnant within the year and have the baby at a year's time or in a year from now you're going to get pregnant but in a year you're going to be a mom and that's what they're saying right now you won't need as far as what I'm hearing right now you won't need to do in vitro you just have to um oh gosh I'm happy you're not in front of me um timing is everything uh what I'm hearing is timing is everything so just relax and allow the timing remember just like we have our astrological sign and we were born at the day and time we were supposed to there's an entrance time and an exit time for everyone so your baby or babies have to come in at their entrance time to be the people that they're supposed to be and connect with all the people they're supposed to connect with so just you know allow um and and like uh don't be afraid they are showing me I think you're going to get pregnant naturally because they are showing me something pretty graphic I don't need to see all that folks I do not need to see somebody holding her ankles up in the air you could just say it's going to happen naturally I'm sorry Angelica to put all your business out on the world like that but that's what they are showing me so let it happen let it happen naturally beautiful girl I am now going to six three one to try to recover myself six three one what's your name and where are you calling from okay Suzanne are you with somebody right now are you in a relationship okay thank you for letting me know that sometimes the energy it's just faster if I ask the question and get right into what you want um Suzanne you are going to meet somebody late September October late September early early October and then again in November now this can mean one of two things the person you meet in September October um might be the first person you meet and the person in November is is the next person you meet or they could be the same person let me ask okay the same person yep okay if you meet somebody late September early October and there's a bit of time before you can see that person again don't get discouraged they just might like sometimes we meet somebody and it's not the best timing um but this person is going to end up being serious about you that doesn't mean sit and wait um still live your life go out have fun you are going to meet this person organically you are going to meet this person at an event if you go if you don't go don't come back and yell at me because like I didn't make you stay in your house and say no okay okay um you're going to meet this person at some sort of an event now I'm going to say this I know there's a lot of new people that are always listening to my show sometimes an event is going to lunch with your co-workers sometimes an event is going to dinner with a family member it doesn't have to be some big hundred person event it can be like hey listen going to lunch can be an event or going to a movie can be an event I am going to tell you you do need to get out a little bit more I do feel like um and I'm sorry if I'm wrong about this um or if this is so far off of your purview I don't know what the word purview means but they made me use it so here we are uh showing how uneducated I am again thank you spirit I see volleyball I see volleyball now I know there are volleyball leagues or you can go out and have a volleyball like game with friends sometimes and bars have a lot of volleyball leagues but I always tell people don't meet people at bars unless you're a bar person but here's what I'm going to say if you go watch volleyball and it can be a an event that maybe somebody you know is in like my nieces used to play volleyball or you decide to join a league or you're just watching a league whatever it is um that might have something to do with it okay having said that I'm going to leave that at that because I don't like to give too many specific details just in case that doesn't go through and then it happens another way because that didn't go through but I am going to tell you they're showing me the volleyball again whether you play or you watch it doesn't matter and that doesn't mean you're going to meet this person at a volleyball game it just means get out and maybe join a league I don't know not telling you what to do with your life I can't play sports where a ball might fly at my face because all I do is take both my hands and cover my head to protect me I go into straight up fetal position like nothing can fly at me and I think that it's a fun sport if I'm playing volleyball it's with a beach ball folks that's just me personally but hey if you like smacking the heck out of a ball that might be the sport for you okay September late September October and then again November no online dating you're not going to meet that you're going to meet this person organically you're going to meet them through either an event and it could be this or it could be something else so please please be open to any and or all of the above okay uh I hope that was helpful for you yes okay get on the beach and play some volleyball and I do feel like whomever this person is they're going to come in they are a little bit athletic they are a little bit athletic as soon as you get in and you get um acclimated I feel like you're going to meet this person now if you don't want to join like a team sport at least go watch some team sports like that okay love all right thank you you are so welcome and it is important I'm going to say it's very important if you are looking for somebody get out and about do your due diligence unless you want the pizza delivery guy or the local break-in and entering guy or the cop that answers the b&e call get out of your house and meet somebody like seriously though okay seven seven zero hold up you are next but first I'm going to see if I can find a question I can easily um find a question online to answer oh my god I just scrolled down um and there are so many people thank you all for being here I love you guys so much don't forget I'm going to be on tomorrow night at 8 p.m central time with Marla Martinson and Marla and I will both be answering questions Marla is the mystical matchmaker and um she is very intuitive also and we will be answering questions to get to together so if I don't get to you today I apologize and I have to keep my show within that 60 minute mark because it does air on tv so it goes 30 or 60 minute segments so at that 60 minute mark I kind of do have to cut off but I'm going to try to get to as many people which means I need to stop talking now and answer questions um uh blah blah blah blah uh la la la hey Mimi how are you Cheryl is there a significance in the number 901 for you yes 901 I don't it is the time when somebody visits you and it's an elderly man like a grandfather it could be your father or grandfather and that is the time they visit you every day twice a day every day 901 Cheryl I hope that was helpful hi Caroline I'm going to get I'm going to try to get to your uh question next I'm going to go to was 770 next everybody I'm going to say yes 770 what's your name and where are you calling from Tony my name is Maddie I'm calling from Georgia Maddie how are you hey I'm good how are you great fantastic um my question is you mentioned being at your um comfort zone with money and my thought was okay this is a good question to ask her my bank one of the banks that I have a uh an account with um they offer me a bonus if I deposit a certain amount of money and I have to leave that money in for three months then they would put the bonus um they would they will they would give me the bonus and so do you think that will be um worth trying to gain from the bank okay I hear yes as long as you know you're not going to need that money during the three months as long as you can sustain without that money go for it I do feel like there is another stipulation that may not had been stated as loudly like it might be find out what all the stipulations are and then go for it I do feel like they they will hold up their end as long as you hold up all of your stipulation ends okay I do feel like it will be good though um I don't feel like you should borrow the money to do that because the interest will end up oh no no no so if anybody else is thinking of that but I feel like I'm I'm sorry I'm not going to borrow the money to do that I'm going to use the money that's been sitting there and I thought well then they gain some money off of it yeah absolutely I feel like that's a really good idea I do feel like it will work out but make sure that you're aware of all of the stipulations not only that time frame I think there's one other well one of the stipulation leave the money in for three months without touching it and uh then that's when they will um if I deposit the money tomorrow I would say three months from um I would say August, September, October, maybe November sometime they would put the the bonus in my account then um okay well just that sounds like a good plan that's that's the understanding that I got you know I think that's a good plan and I think you should go with it okay Maddie well thank you because I thought wow hopefully I'll try to hold my money this now and this one why are they offering a bonus like wow what are they going to do with the money like wow I don't know what they usually without it love usually when they do things like that they're trying to get new accounts people to open up new accounts with new money they're trying to bring people in and start new accounts so as long as you can transfer that money from one account to open a new account I would go for it but again I'm hearing there might be a stipulation you might not be aware of so make sure you know all the stipulations before you decide to do that okay sweetie um I'm going to take one question um uh so Angelica is saying I'm funny and I've been making her laugh through the show thank you I aim to be funny I think I'm funny I make myself laugh all day long like seriously I do um Diana Perez Tony the other day I hear a whisper in my right ear I was home alone I got a bit scared but I'm not sure what it is you have any idea okay it was it was not something ominous although I say if you hear it outside of your ear it's not good I've heard my mom since my mom has passed I've heard her scream at me you know like when I was a child like screaming at me screaming my name and that was real so and that was not a thought in my head that was definitely like waking me out of my sleep screaming at me um I feel like it was it was actually Diana was somebody who wanted to get you out of your thoughts like you know how sometimes we're doing something and we're just letting thoughts go and go and go and go and go it was actually somebody trying to get you out of your thoughts in your head like to break that thought chain to break that thought that's what I'm hearing now if it was something different than that I apologize but here's what I'm going to do for everybody listening relistening watching rewatching our homes are clear our homes are unclear all that is with us is pure truth of God I'm going to clear that to a yes all of that should clear all of our homes all of our we are clear we are unclear let's clear that to a solid the answer it's supposed to be and let's also do our home is filled with life our homes are filled with a light and love and angelic and God energy let's clear that to a yes who I like the way this feels if you guys are feeling it give me a give me a sign show me you like what you're feeling here because this is pretty powerful okay I'm going to go to the next color and the next color I need you to know I only have like two minutes but I'm going to go go and take you so please give me a really quick yes no question 203 what's your yes no question up 203 said no I'm not doing a yes no question they're already gone okay 773 give me a yes no question as quick as you can hey there how are you um good do you see a move in my feature I'm sorry can you repeat that sure a move uh do I see a move in your future yeah move not in the immediate immediate future how soon are you thinking of moving oh I'm I'm just giving you a yes no question I'm so sorry okay what would your question had been had I not said that hey it's recently I'm just wondering if he's around what's his first hit what's his first name Sean Sean Sean okay Sean where are you here okay the first thing Sean is doing is singing a song and it's that song um oh take the long way home take the long way home life is and if you think that I people I don't even I can't even think of the words to this song he's trying to give me the word so if you think I like singing stuff that's definitely from Sean and then the next thing Sean wants to say is thank you for for everything you were a better friend than he realized when he was here like once he got home and he could look back at everything he realized all the all the love like you gave him love he couldn't even he couldn't even feel for himself so thank you for being such a good friend um he wants to say to you he's still singing that song um take the long way home uh so please listen to that song because there are so many messages in that song for you and he loves you and I'm talking really fast because he knows it's coming to a close and he says please know how grateful and how much he appreciates everything that you did for him and he is with you um he's going to be with you all the time and moving forward when you're driving and songs come on in the radio it's going to be him giving you messages okay that's it that's all I got from him that's all I've got from him sweetie thank you thank you so much for calling in I want to remind everybody I'm going to be on tomorrow night with Marla at 8 p.m um thank you everybody who liked the show and thank you everybody who joined me here um I'm so grateful for each and every one of you


Okay, it's Think Tech, it's Community Matters, and we're talking about journalism here today with an assistant professor of the School of Communications, and that's the journalism program at the School of Communications, Brett Overgaard. Thank you for joining us, Brett. Thank you for inviting me, I appreciate it. We see you all the time. We see you in civil beat on a regular basis, and you come down here once in a while too. Yeah. We see you in civil beat every Monday. Okay, you're watching on Mondays. So last week, I think it was Wednesday, you were part of a roundtable discussion at East West Center that was actually organized by the East West Center and the School of Communications, you I guess, to discuss changes in the Honolulu news media. This is a very interesting topic, and Think Tech has been following it for a long time. And I wonder if you could, you know, give us some thoughts about why you set that program up and how it went. The other speakers in the program, let's see, were Patty Epler, who is the editor of civil beat. There was supposed to be a fellow named Ji Tao. He runs the China Daily News, and he couldn't show up that day, and let's see. And then you had, who am I missing? Why Public Radio? Why Public Radio? Jose Fajardo, who was the new president of Why Public Radio, taking over from Michael Titterton. My colleague, Dr. Ann Amman, was there from the School of Communications. So that's a pretty interesting panel. It was. Very fascinating. Yeah. So I have footage, and I'm just wondering if you could summarize how it went, how it may have surprised you, what kind of conclusions the panel reached, and what kind of, what did you learn that day? Okay. Well, to begin with, as you know, the media environment is changing very fast. So I think what struck me most about this panel is that all of these people on it were dealing with this change in different ways. And we were all thinking about how this affects our organizations or our activities. And where we're going in the future. So I think that's going to be like this never ending puzzle that's going to last for a long, long time. And I think it just keeps changing faster and faster. So the number one thing I would say is we need to be embracing this change and be ready for it and not feel like we're stuck in any particular model. I think back to when websites emerged in the kind of legacy media and everybody's very excited about putting their website up. And within, you know, five years or so of people establishing that, mobile has taken their entire audience, or 50, 60% of their audience. So you can imagine all these people working really hard to figure out how does our web site work. And then, you know, five years into that boom, all the everybody goes to mobile. So it's caused a lot of consternation, but I suspect this will just continue to happen. So we have to just kind of face it and embrace it, like a lot of people are doing. New York Times especially is doing a good job with that. Yeah, they're great. I read them on my telephone. You read it on your mobile device. There you go. And it takes only a minute, but I feel like I'm up to date. I'm not getting all the ads. That's okay. I'm not getting a lot of the, you know, secondary material. That's okay. But I do get the news every day and they send a summary of news. Yeah. So it's very accessible. Unconvenient. And you can see why people are less and less sitting at their desktop computer and logging on to NewYorkTimes.com. They're more and more going to their phone. Yeah. And that, just a footnote on that is that reading itself, I do on my phone. Because I download on Kindle, I can get the latest and greatest. I can get the best sellers, you know, in 10 seconds now I have it for relatively cheap. And I can read it wherever I go. I can actually, you know, keep aware of it because wherever I stop, I can read a little bit, you know, go to the next report. And whenever you have what's called a mobile moment where you're waiting in line at the bank or you're standing around waiting for a bus or, you know, waiting in a doctor's appointment, you have all this time that in the past you might have looked at a magazine on the table or something, but now you can access directly what you want to read. New news consumers, do we have a choice but to follow these new trends? Or are we, you know, are we really well advised, you know, to keep up with it and forget about the methodology of the past? Well, I think as an ideology we have to maintain journalism as a way we think about the world. So, in that respect, we should hold on to the past. We have to think about, like, what are our journalistic, you know, mantras. But in terms of how we deliver that journalism, that's the thing, you know, I recommend we just kind of let go of as much as we can without bankrupting our companies, but, you know, let go of it and say, where in the future will journalism be? And a lot of people have experimented with just amazing new forms, like virtual reality and drone journalism and augmented reality journalism, so people are trying these new ways of communicating out and they're doing journalism within those forms. So that's a very exciting time, I think, for journalists. It's maybe not so exciting for ad sales and analog papers, but it's very exciting if you think about it as an ideology. And as an investor, you really have to be especially alert because you could be investing in something in the wrong direction and lose your investment. It's like software, you know, you want to follow the trends so you're not going down the wrong road. Some of them won't work. Yeah, we have to embrace the failures, too, of trying things and they don't work out. I think maybe, and I haven't spent a lot of time pondering this, but maybe a newspaper was envisioned like a hundred or two hundred year investment as a company in the past and now it's more like three to five years. This is what your journalistic organization is going to look like and then it's going to be something else five years from now. So, you know, it just maybe changes the way people think about it. And that struck me in just reading on your discussion last week is that China Daily, China Daily USA is coming or has come to Hawaii to print, print press a daily print press newspaper. Does that seem like the right direction or does that seem like it's the wrong direction? Well, I mean, I don't know their inside business strategy, but I presume that they think that there's a market for people who will grab that print product, maybe downtown in a busy street or maybe somebody's sitting on a bus. I mean, there's a lot of ways that analog media still works well when you don't have good connectivity, when a long battery life is needed, when you're near water. And those are all things that I think relate to maybe urban life in Honolulu. That means a place for multiple models. But surely some models have demonstrated that they will be profitable and other models have demonstrated that they will not likely be profitable. For example, the print press, it's not likely. You can take a look at the dailies here. They have gone down, down, down in terms of readership and circulation. And as you said, the mobile phone aspect is going up, up, up dramatically. So if I'm an investor, I'm going to make a choice based on that. Well, you're probably not going to buy a $10 million printing press and then try to make your money back on it. Yeah, it's not going to work. When you could very easily spend one-one-thousandth of that on a new start-up mobile news organization. Yeah. And there's plenty of room for that. I mean, Civil Beat has one methodology. And I understand they're changing their news direction. What I understood was that what they said, what Patty Epler said, that they were going to focus on local news. They were going to focus on, they're not going to focus so much on sports or entertainment, but local news.  They will somehow aggregate that and make it available, which I think is really a good idea. Yeah, I mean, as far as I know, their model hasn't changed much in terms of topics they cover. I don't think they've ever covered sports or entertainment, but they are very open to working with citizen journalists and people maybe outside the mainstream positions on media coverage. So journalism must change because of all these possibilities swirling around and the need of the public to be well-informed. A candidate like Donald Trump taking the press to task every time he gets a chance, if they don't support him, if they make fun of him, if they give any negative reporting on him, he will take them to task and then they must respond and defend themselves. So journalism, journalism is in flux and you have a school of journalism where presumably you cover that flux and you show those students to retain the old journalistic ideals but to write differently and to be in a position to influence people or at least send the facts where they message out in a way so that it has the same effect the print press used to have. What do you tell them? Well, we have a lot of opportunities to tell stories in new ways and in interactive ways. The media up to this point has primarily been a one-way channel and now there are a lot of ways to have the audience respond from reader comments to tips to citizen journalism. There are just a lot of ways to involve people in the journalistic process and I think that's generally healthy, although it doesn't always play out that way depending on how people use that power. There have been, of course, a lot of folks who try to take over stories with their political... I mean the audience, the readers... The audience, yeah. That's become a really serious problem. I think Twitter's struggling with it quite a bit. How does that work when they try to take over the audience? Well, they have kind of a grassroots organization of some sort and if somebody says something they don't like then they en masse try to blow the person out with hateful messages and misinformation posted to the sites. That's one of the reasons reader comments is so hard to manage because you open that door and then where's the line you draw and what people can say. Yeah, and they can do things that are terribly unfair, manipulative, so forth. Yeah, and then like in the Civil Beat example we had a discussion over the past few weeks about anonymity in the reader comments and the idea is basically anonymity will allow more commentary in a sense that people feel safer to comment but then it also diminishes the accountability of what they say because people don't know who they are and why they're saying it. And they can be mean. They can be bullies. They can be incredibly mean. They can be bullies. They can say misinformation. What's really kind of a terrible new trend is like I said that people will gather in these groups and then like a heat mob will come down on people and that's becoming very hard for folks to control. Yeah, the power of thing, the counter press if you will. So where do you stand on that? Anonymity or no anonymity? The position I've taken is it should be fully accountable for what you say and my suggestion is that people basically register to leave comments just like they used to do somewhat with the letters of the editor. You know you would say your name, your address, your phone number and then the editor would check all that information and call you up and say are you so and so and did you write this letter and then if you say yes then although that's not a perfect system because there have been abuses of that that did somewhat limit the kind of anonymous attacks and people generally felt like if they were going to say something in public like that they should stand by their words and so that's where I think we should go. Yeah, I absolutely agree. I think at the beginning of the internet, the beginning of electronic journalism there was this notion of let's make it free. You know it's free, it's unfettered, unrestrained. Free and anonymous. Free and anonymous, anybody can say anything but by then at that time we hadn't seen the bullying yet. We didn't know how it could be manipulated and abused and then we have found that sense and so we've got to contain it. Everyone. Right, I mean it makes sense to me. I understand the place for anonymity and so one of the arguments that people will make is well how do you deal with whistleblowers and how do you deal with people trying to say things and they're not comfortable saying them in public because of some retaliation and I would say the answer is then you on a case by case basis argue that and give the person anonymity if you feel like it's appropriate. You know you don't have to use such a broad brush on it and number one I don't see a lot of reader comments that are big whistleblower claims. I think those are handled in different channels with somewhat of a false argument but if there was and people said okay I would like to post this on this story if I don't feel comfortable using my name then I think the media organization could easily blot that out or whatever they want to do to allow the comment but then also be responsible for its content. They have a certain amount of due diligence there. Let's take a short break Brad then we'll come back and we'll talk about where this is all going. I mean predict the future. Hey everybody my name is David Chang and I'm the new host of a new show The Art of Thinking Smart. I'm really excited to be able to share with you secrets on giving yourself the smart edge in life. We're going to have awesome guests and great mentors of mine from the political, military, business, nonprofit, you name it. So it's something for everybody. Aloha I'm Kirsten Baumgart host of Sustainable Hawaii. We live stream every Tuesday from noon to 12.30 and you get a chance to hear what people are doing about sustainability in Hawaii and what the issues are impacting all of us in all the islands. Join us please. Aloha my name is Reg Baker and I'm the host of Business in Hawaii with Reg Baker. We're a show that broadcasts live every Thursday from 2 to 2.30. We highlight success stories in Hawaii of both businesses and individuals. We learn their secrets to success which is always valuable. I hope to see you on our next show. Aloha. We're here with Brett Obergaard and he's an assistant professor in the UH School of Communications, the journalism program there and he participated in a round table discussion last week at the East West Center covering the recent change in the news media in Honolulu and there have been many. But I wanted to catch this one thing with you and that is where is it going in terms of the political dialogue that we have especially here in election season where it used to be you read the print press you informed yourself they tried to inform you and to a certain extent you were informed before election day. Now there's so much chatter there's so much noise and you know people take advantage they say things that are not true and that there's no journalist to control at all and then when you multiply that out by hundreds of millions of voters what do you get is our society is our democratic society doing better in terms of an informed voter or not? No, I think we're less informed even though we have more information in our heads and partially that's because there's so many channels where people get confused about even what they think is true and we also have seemed to have lost a tether to the truth in our political discussions. I think both the candidates this time around are somewhat untethered to that but I mean one obviously is extremely untethered and we're almost pathologically but you know in both cases I've seen this increased sophistication in the kind of behind the scenes talking points surrogate advancement of these talking points which is I think this has always been there but it's much more sophisticated now and the whole behind the scenes team putting out misinformation or putting out some kind of spin has gotten really hard to overcome. Yeah, so it's theatrics and there's somebody doing the puppeteering from behind the stage. Now the press has the opportunity I mean I think this is a growing feature maybe relatively recent years of fact checking you know anybody says anything and the press will or some members of the press will fact check that and they will tell you is it true, is it half true, is it not true at all? How useful, how valid is that? Do you see that as an important element in the engagement? Well I think this is part of the whole rise of misinformation. I think journalism used to always be fact checking and there was no separation. It was inherent in every story. I just am so shocked by this rise of fact checking and I think part of it is a reaction to this constant misinformation that's being put into play. So I don't know really what to make of it other than this is basic journalism that always should be done so I'm not sure why we needed separate channels but maybe it's more than anything a delivery presentation mode. But what I've noticed maybe it's just me is that when the press does the fact checking comes back and says no no that candidate was wrong on that then the candidate denies the fact checking. So the public is left confused as to what the lie was in the first place whether the fact checking is really accurate or whether the final dismissal of the fact checking is accurate. So the question is how do you make people get into the process do their duty as civic entities you know in a democracy. The press is directly involved in this journalism directly it's an essential element of it but how do you make the public truly understand how do you clarify their thinking I'm asking an impossible question I know. Well I mean the answer is at some point people are going to get tired of getting manipulated I think it goes along with advertising or whatever. You're constantly getting these messages you feel bad about yourself you're hungry or your car is not cool enough or whatever it is at some point people get just exhausted with that constant negativity that leads them to buy things and I think in the political process you get the same sort of deal where you feel like everybody is always trying to spin you and manipulate you then at some point you think well if this is really important to me and not every issue can be really important to me like this is the issue or these are the issues that I think are important then the person should spend the time investigating them and finding out what is the real truth. So I'm sitting at the television because that's an easy way to be a couch potato and I see CNN which I no longer have the same credibility for and I see Fox which I have very little credibility for and so forth and they're just spinning messages at me and they do that for three or four minutes and then I get three or four or five minutes of commercials which is just as you say they're spinning messages at me and I feel like I'm being assaulted with all these messages and there's not a great deal of difference between the spin over here and the spin over there and I say enough so and I can come down here I can face the cameras and say you've got to stop doing this that doesn't really help or I can go and I can go to the oracle a real source a source that I trust a source that will clarify this for me what is that source where I find it in today's world of journalism and media. Well I mean part of it's a media literacy issue where people trust Jimmy's blog as much as the New York Times and they're not comparable so we like in our program we spend a lot of time on media literacy and news literacy and what are the sources you can trust and what is the process they go through to put this information in your hands and there's a big difference between what any you know any citizen can put on their blog and what it takes to get a story on the front page of the New York Times and just a dramatic difference. Now people I've heard argue about the bias of the New York Times which is fine to argue but also you have to say well compared to what and in my mind there are you know a few organizations around the country that really diligently look at what they put in every single word and then those are the places that I feel like I can trust you know on most subjects. How do you know how do you know that they're doing that? How do you come to trust them? I mean Donald Trump would tell you at the New York Times this bad journalism. Right. So gee I hope nobody buys that. But how do you know that you should trust this news media and not that one? Well it's a process of you know how transparent are they? How do they get their information? How is this sourced? When they use this source what is the credential of that source? How fair are they in countering any particular argument? So it's not fair time for different ideas like evolution versus non-evolution. It's more there is a legitimate difference of opinion on this particular issue. Does this journalistic source give fair time to those issues? Or does it try to slant them? You know I'm reminded of my own education I forget where it happened but I remember having a class in school about reading the newspaper and it was a whole semester just reading the newspaper how you fold it what you look for what you expect from the writing what you expect from where you went first and second and third and all that and it was largely based around the New York Times and I grew up in New York the papers in New York and the national papers but I don't think they have classes like that aside from journalism classes themselves in school anymore wouldn't that help? Wouldn't education about critical thinking in appreciating journalistic sources wouldn't that help? I think it would I think they are starting to implement that in school all the way down to elementary school I have a daughter in elementary school and she's learning about media watching the news that's been sanctioned for elementary school people to watch and they talk about the news and I have a daughter in middle school and a daughter in high school and they all are getting this information and analyzing it which I think is great and I think that their life is seen through media our first-hand experience is very minimal when you really think about it you sit on your couch like you said or you get in your car or you sit in your workplace or whatever it is and that's your first-hand experience but most of what you know about the world is through mediated sources so to understand how those mediated sources work on you and also I think the main thing is there's a lot of reality in very dramatic ways and if you're not aware of the filtering and distortion then even if you are aware of it it still can't see past some of the meta-narratives and as a body politic or a body electorate we are being educated through the media every day we are forming opinions about people, about issues about our relationship with government our society is individually and collectively defined by what we get from the media and we're getting more as you said, more information all the time this is there's a certain jeopardy in this it seems that we are more covered by it and more threatened by it than we ever were we need it and yet we can't trust it and if we don't handle it right our society is no longer as valid as the founders would have liked especially in the election I think there's always been that openness to all types of information if you think back to maybe the founding of the country you would have multiple newspapers in a town all telling you different things and people had to find their way through it so in some respects it's not that much different and we just have way more information so I think the real challenge is for every citizen to spend time and effort on that media and figuring out what it means and what you can trust and where it's coming from it's not just a trifling thing you spend five minutes in the morning reading the newspaper anymore it's all day long you're in your mobile moments at the bus stop or whatever looking at the media on Facebook a lot of times people will get information forwarded from their friends and because it came from their friends they give it a higher trust level but if they just encountered it searching the internet and so there are all sorts of dynamics at play that really make it a challenge and I think people need to they need to step up their effort in understanding the media or they're going to get washed over by it and one thing is for sure there are people out there who are trying to reshape it as we speak who will come up with new and brilliant and profitable ideas that you guys talked about last week and that we've been talking about today and that makes it so exciting and threatening and demanding of all of us yeah I try to keep an optimistic positive view in the sense that we have way more agencies than we've ever had we have the ability to connect with sources international national regional local to figure it out but it takes work it's not as simple as it used to be where you watch the 5 o'clock news and Walter Cronkite told you how it was or you picked up the daily newspaper and it was all true it's just not that simple anymore no but one thing is clear we should read Civil Beat on Mondays to see what you have to say about it yes I hope so read Overguard of the UH School of Communications journalism program thanks for watching see you next week