So, in five minutes, I'm going to try to give you a few things. Three solutions to climate change, a couple confessions, and a secret to saving the world. Let's pack it all in. Remember, end of this, the best price of admission you've ever had is the secret to saving the world. But first, I have a confession, and I think it's fitting given what we just heard, and that's that I love, I really, really love, I mean, I really love women. You know, I should probably be more specific though. I love, it's hard to say in public, I love mothers.  And Mother Earth is telling us right now, we're heading the wrong direction, and we got to get in balance, because we're really stuck in a bad relationship. Right now, we need to change that relationship we're in.  In a few years ago, I went to the Eastern Congo with an amazing, amazing woman named Eve Ensler, who inspired me to try to help give a hand up, not a handout, to the women of the Congo, whose lives have been literally, physically, and mentally, emotionally destroyed by our addiction to electronics and our need for rare earth minerals known as conflict minerals that come from this part of the world. Things are changing, but the armed militias that use those, that control the population through rape and atrocities, to be able to control those rare earth minerals, to be able to fuel their wars, to be able to take back some political power, whatever they're striving for, to keep themselves in power, are really, really critical. And these women touched me, because when we went there to open the city of joy that Eve helped the women of the Congo build, they danced. They sang despite what had been done to them to control this resource. And so if we're stuck in a bad relationship with Mother Earth, this is the place where it all comes together more than any other place, because we're plundering women and we're plundering the earth and we need to find and reclaim that balance. So what am I doing? Well, I think there are three solutions to the climate change. We don't need to talk about the problem. We know, well, I see three. One is citizens. We need citizens to take responsibility for a corner of their world that connects to the bigger issues in the world. This amazing individual you see on the screen right now is a woman named Bronte Vélez. I started something called Citizen E.E. It's a little side project I do where I go out, raise money from friends, and try to find individuals making a difference in their community. And Bronte's story was she lost a friend to gun violence in Atlanta. She wanted to, for the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther King's assassination to plant trees. But you know what she wanted to do with how to plant those trees? She wanted to take guns, melt them into shovels, and plant those trees, and that's what she did. Yeah, find her and give her some love. She's running a project called Lead to Life, Lead to Life. So second solution, cities. This is City Hall in Los Angeles. You might remember it from Dragonet or other movies. It's, you know, one of the better known city halls in the world because of Hollywood. But I went to work for the mayor of Los Angeles about five years ago as the first chief sustainability officer. He said about, how do we help LA to become the leader? It's the epitome of sprawl and traffic and pollution, but we're making a difference in Los Angeles by creating a truly sustainable city and a comprehensive sustainable city plan that I helped the mayor put together and hopefully as a model for others to rip off and share and put into place in their community. Because it's not just about climate change. It's about housing. It's about economics. And it's about how it all works together. And in that process, we created an organization of mayors across the United States that's first, we're trying to put some wind at the back of President Obama going into the Paris Climate Agreement negotiations. Instead, when President Trump got elected or he should shall not be named, I just broke my rule, became the climate mayors and we rose up and they said, we're going to adopt the Paris Climate Agreement in our community. And we went from 70 mayors the day he announced that in the Rose Garden, 24 hours later, 170 mayors who said they were going to do it. And now there are over 400 mayors across the United States who said they're going to adopt the Paris Climate Agreement. Next, citizens, cities and clean tech. So then a year ago, I moved to run this organization that's housed at this amazing campus. Garrett's been there. I think Isaac's been there. If you haven't been, when you're in LA, please come visit. I'll loan you a hot desk for the day to work. You can stay in my house if you need to. But this is an amazing 61,000 square foot facility actually owned by the city to advance clean tech solutions and help clean tech entrepreneurs create the solutions we need to fight climate change. So one of the most exciting we have is a company called Amp Air. They're creating electric airplanes by retrofitting a Cessna airplanes by putting an electric motor. They're testing it by the beginning of next year. It'll be the largest electric airplane in the air. But when they do that, it'll carry eight passengers, 80 to 100 miles, but they're not going to wait 10 years for their first purpose built plane. They're starting now. These are some of our companies and we're focused on impact, of course, not just environmental impact and economic impact, we're really focused on how to empower women and underrepresented communities to be the next entrepreneurs of the future. One of the other things we're doing to show how collaboration can work is we brought together the Air Resources Board, the most important regulator in the world right now, given their fight against Trump and the White House to keep ability to regulate carbon in place. And so we came together with them, the mayor of the county, the Metropolitan Transit Authority, three utilities and said, we're going to go further faster and by 2028 when the world arrives for the Olympics, and hopefully some of you in Los Angeles in 2028 that you can move freely throughout the city by walking, biking, of course, but all emissions free. Every source of, every form of transportation, every mode will be emissions free. That's our goal. I'm going to tell you how this all came together. Hurricane Katrina hit in 2005, destroyed this great city of New Orleans. I put together a crazy idea of how we could rebuild the city to be the first green city in America. We green the schools. We green, help people green their homes. But along the way, I met this guy you may recognize in the middle of Brad Pitt, but the person that really matters in this photo is the woman in the middle, Pam DeShield. After the storm, she said to her neighborhood in the Lower Ninth Ward, let's rebuild our neighborhood to be the first carbon neutral neighborhood in the world. And now there are more lead platinum homes in this neighborhood of Lower Ninth Ward than any other city in America. Not because of what I did, not because of what Brad Pitt did, but because Pam DeShield had the courage to put that idea forth to her neighborhood and rally that support that made all of that work possible. And this is the project I helped them build in the Lower Ninth Ward. So God bless Pam. She's truly a citizen entrepreneur. Now, punchline, New Zealand has always led the way. We need you, New Zealand. We need you to wake up the world to continue this fight against climate change. You're small but mighty and the need, the world needs you now more than ever. Just as the women's suffrage movement, just as an anti-nuclear and just as in the rights of nature. We need you now because we don't want this to happen in Wellington. We need to hit this goal by the time of 2050. So no small task. So given them way over, I'm going to give you the secret to saving the world now. But you'll have to stand up. Ready? Yeah. Okay, put up your right hand and repeat after me. Secret to saving the world, ladies and gentlemen. Let's go all blacks. Sorry, wrong one. Little pandering there. All right, repeat after me. I love my home. Now give the person next to you a big hug. And remember, left hand up, left arm up.  We need our hugs. All right, that's enough hugging back there. It's a little too much hugging. All right, so the point of this is if we want future generations to have a world even close to the beauty we're surrounded by today, we need to choose love over fear and we need to work together to figure this shit out because we think we're going to go big or go home, so let's go big. Thank you.


Good afternoon, good evening, good morning. Depending on which time zones you are and all the people who are tuned in. I'm Jamal Thru, I'm going to be a host for this one. It's kind of like entrepreneurship, but not literally anchoring. We are going to talk in depth about your experience with the program and how the days went by, how you felt, experience in general. So I'm going to go ahead very quickly, talk about the three people that are in the call right now. So you have, so on my right, we have Maurya Nanango, who is currently an interaction designer at Red Hat. Shatha, who works as a software engineer at Hasura, and Smira, who is a V-tech student and is a product designer for other companies. And you guys can take like two odd minutes talking about yourselves and let me know what you're doing, a bit more depth than I did, and then we can kick off the sessions. So go ahead. Right, I'll go first. Okay, so hi, I'm Smira. I basically got involved with Fedora during my Outreachy internship that was two years ago, summer of 2020. And my project was basically a design project. So that's how I got involved with open source design. And then after that, I did some open source design work with other conferences, mainly just Fedora. And I was looking for jobs and I am now working as a product designer in a semi open source company where the main tech staff is open source. So it's a German company you'll look on and they work in digital identity security and access management. And I'm also currently pursuing my, all right, I'm also a final year engineering student. I don't see myself as an engineer more like a designer, especially because when I started my Outreachy internship, that is where I fully embraced the identity of a designer. And yeah, that's it. Awesome. I'll go next. I'm Shadha. I did Outreachy with Fedora back in 2019. And yeah, I worked on a project for Fedora Happiness Package with Justin, Yona, Alberto. And yeah, it was a pleasure. That was my first experience with open source. Then I went ahead and did GSOC with SEF on the project for tautology. And then I did a couple of more internships and then joined full-time with Hasara where we automate your API creation on top of your schema. So yeah, that's in short, cool. Oh, okay. I'll go next. Sumantra, can you mute yourself for a sec? Still a lot of beeping. Thank you. I'm sorry. All right. Hey, I'm gonna introduce myself. My name is Marcia, oh, Maria. And I'm gonna, just before anything happens, I'm gonna say that my son might purge in because it's a Saturday and he's home and he's three and a half. So he does not understand the concept of online conferences too well. So please excuse me in advance. Anyway, I'm really glad to be here because I was at Fedora intern long, long time ago, like six years ago. So I could not remember whether 2015 or 2016. It was a trial. I'll need to check that I was an intern on the Fedora design team for about nine months because in Czech Republic, you can go on and turning until you all agree. That's not like in the years where we'll get three months in the summer and that's that. And from that, I went on to be on a full-time position, not on the Fedora team, but still a track head. And so I'm gonna continue on that path right now. Just kind of a good help to mix between the UI and the GX and just, you know, lurking around the Fedora community still and not maybe contributing too much, but I'm there, like I know what's happening. Thanks. All right, so that's thanks for that introduction. I'd love to leave this opportunity to take some time out on a Saturday to do this. It's actually very important because you guys have been sort of kind of the poster titles of the internship program that Fedora runs and all the mentorship program includes it. So you guys have broken through a lot of barrier, myths, and you have gotten a lot of experience as you have, you know, progressed with the mentorship. So a couple of things that we would want the audience to currently understand and know so forth. So let's start off with how was your experience when you started off with the program? Like what went really well in the program? Like if you were a part of our crew team, if you were a part of our team job, and like how was the mentorship program for you? Specifically, did it use all of your positive qualities? Did it challenge you at some point? What went really good?  It's the same flow as the other program you can pick off. Right. I think it's hard to pick one thing that went really well. I mean, I think the first thing, if I were to go like, let's say chronologically, the thing that impacted me the most was obviously my mentor, Marie Nordin. So she, I think she made my like internship. Like she was the highlight, you could say, not only during the internship, but after that also. And I was obviously a bit skipped. This was my first internship. I am not very tech savvy. I had tried contributing to open source a year before that on the tech side. And I was not super good at it. So I was a little scared, right? But I think Marie being there to guide me through everything she was perfect and throughout the thing. So for me, I think it's the mentor that makes the internship or makes the project, even I didn't tell her at that time, right? That I was scared or I was nervous or at least I hope that it did not come off that way. But later on, we still get together once a month to just hang out and talk.  I was so nervous. I would start sweating from panic over like one hour before our calls just because I wanted to impress her and I wanted for her to like my work. And I wanted to do a good job. So yeah, I think one of the biggest challenges was actually presenting my work to someone else because it was not just Marie. It was also everyone in the community. A lot of times you're solving issues for other people. That was one of the challenges that I sort of overcame that and obviously imposter syndrome. I felt like I had lucked my way into that internship. And even during the internship, a lot of times I felt that I'm not doing enough or everyone's just pretending that my work is fine. Secretly, you know, they don't like it. So yeah, that was my experience without reaching. I so relate with that. I mean, both the parts, especially like the first where you mentioned that you used to get like so nervous when you were waiting for meetings. Like I remember my first meeting with Justin and two hours before, I was like ready with everything, like sorting out my internet and camera, like this is even before I got selected. He just wanted to do an intro call. And I was just like full of nerves, right? And but yeah, like he was just such a pleasure. Like everybody here knows what a delight Justin is to work with. And yeah, it's just such a pleasure to talk to him. And then later on, you know, actually went ahead and like we, I think we used to do calls every single week. And yeah, it was a pleasure. And yeah, it's just the one thing that went really well, circling back to Samantha's question is that the communication in Fedora community is just flawless. Like I've worked with open source communities after that and working a full time job, but the pace at which and the ease with which the communication happens inside Fedora and get to encounter it in any other place. Like whether it be email communication or on telegram or IRC, wherever it may be, it's just so good. People are so approachable. You can ask questions. You can just like, you know, like, they're also very good sounding words. If you're just struggling with something, you can reach out to them.  So yeah, it was a delight. So communication is one thing that went extremely good. And the second thing that against where I mentioned that imposter syndrome, again, something that I really relate with that that was again my first internship, like ever.  But also what helped me doing all the things that I did in the internship. Also like kind of helped me realize that, okay, these are the things that I enjoy doing and these are the things that I don't particularly enjoy doing. Like, you know, in the course of all the things that I did in the sound of the internship. So yeah. Well, that's cool how you mentioned empowering, like in the word empower, because that's exactly how I thought. And it's funny because I never thought that anybody was as nervous as me when I first had like, my first abudian school with Moe Duffy. I was crazy. I was checking my equipment the day before to make sure everything's working. My wife was fine. Oh gosh, the conversation with a pair that used to be in blue jeans, like, you know, checking your video and photo and then going back to the empowering part. That's what I was, I was going to mention because I'm coming from a sort of, I don't want to say community, but a background where when you do design work, you would get a lot of negative feedback. And in the photography community, it's not the same at all. Like, you would do anything, maybe something really small and then you would get so much, you know, encouragement and great feedback in return. Like, and that would include somewhere in it, some recommendations how to make it better, but then it would start with something very nice and who would be made to feel like you're, you know, the best designer in the world. And that is in turn so empowering that you're among all these people who are great professionals and awesome people. But it's, and still they tell you nice things about your work. It was really great. And it's funny how we all have different mentors. I didn't realize that the really good perspective that we're gonna get during this call today. So I love the way you guys have finally condensed all the learning and what happened good. I specifically hear this, this word was out of all of your learnings, which is communication. And that's the key. And you guys have mentioned it over and over saying, communication was the key. Communication was the key. What communication method works best for you? Like Shruth mentioned, she was upfront with a lot of communication and over calls and stuff. But I would want to know what worked best when you are in that pressure, when you are in that zone, when you are like about to hit it off, what communication method works best for you? And if something could have been done better, so let's say parallely hosting things, like video call with notes or something like that, if you have some suggestions like that, that you think could have been done much better, go ahead, take the floor. Right, so my primary method of communication with Marie was first, it was video call, like weekly video calls. That worked really well for me, even though initially at that time I was a little bit nervous. Video calls weren't a thing at least for me back then, that this was the start of the pandemic, right? We are much more accustomed to it now. Back then, I probably never had video call professionally someone, maybe friends, but never professionally. So there was a little bit of hesitance about talking to someone face to face, right? When you're talking on email, you can compose your thoughts much better. You have like all the time in the world to compose your answer or your response. So, but I realized that now after two years that for me, my preferred mode of communication is always now face to face. It's so much more transparent. There is a less chance of miscommunication, I feel. You can't really understand tone, like tone of speech when you're communicating via email, right? Texting sort of also works as an in-between because emojis and depending on how informal you are in the internship. Emails help for an entirely different purpose where a lot of times if we were discussing an issue and there were a lot of things that we needed to keep in mind, Z would probably send that over email. So sort of acted like notes. So that was easy to get back to. And then obviously like for personal day-to-day chat or just a simple question, we would use Telegram, which I really liked because it wasn't super formal. It wasn't as intimidating as sending an email just to ask one small thing. So it was just to the text, get a reply and then probably set a subject. So that made it much more easy to sort of be at ease communicating with someone across the world who had never met before. Yeah, I again agree with Smera that, yeah, just like just the classification that she did that makes a lot of sense. Also one thing that I not sure how well I did it but just to definitely make sure that this was like done is that whenever it's something extremely work related and it needs to be documented because this might need to be referenced later by somebody else who's gonna work on the project later or even like, you know, I had a fellow intern with me, Alisha, who I recently met, was doing awesome in life. For everybody here who knows her and wants an update. Yeah, just writing that down and having other people reference it just because they might need it later is extremely important because that cannot be done when you're having a one-on-one calls and you need that information later. Obviously you can take notes which also works but just writing that down one way or another is extremely important as well as whenever it comes to things which are not very technical which again, you know, do not have a lot of information that needs to be referenced later and especially things like, you know, when imposter syndrome kicks in or you're just feeling low if there are things which you just want an informal chat with, there I always prefer to have a one-on-one with my manager or just whoever it is because then it's much more easier to convey whatever it is that, you know, because then when the person, you can see them in front of you, they can see you, it's very, very easy to express all of those things which are not that easy to communicate on text and stuff like that. But I definitely, like I switch between these two whenever there are things that I need to explain, I might not do that very well when we're on call because there's just so many things that you need to keep in mind. So yeah, that's generally how I go about it and how also something that I learned from Justin because he made sure that we kind of implement this throughout the duration of our internship. So yeah. Cool, Anto wants to go. Right, I'm gonna say a couple of words in favor of IRC that we use or chat that we can use right now because if he asked a question there, then you get like a written response which is great because if they include links or some references, then you can say that and print that or something because lately when I found like if I'm in too many meetings then I kind of space out towards the end of them and then I don't remember like, oh, they mentioned this thing, you know or there was this concept that I didn't catch because there was like meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting, right? So you have to go back and luckily most of them are recorded now but then you kind of end up doing the same thing twice because you are in a meeting once and then you rewatch it again to take notes which is not maybe a bad thing because that's like you're learning better but then if you have everything written down then that's really good. But also I wanted to mention that I know everything's online now like almost all the mentors and mentees are online but the best way to review design work is just sit next to each other and just look at it together and if that's at all possible like if there are any, maybe we'll start again like meeting, you know and having vlogs or whatever or just doing some sort of team meetings so people can meet and just kind of collaborate on the same thing. And I feel like video chats are a great way to get to know people better like even if you're not discussing any sort of work related questions just to talk to each other sometimes like even if you prefer communication in chat then it still helps a lot if you can see a person if you can talk to them, oh, hey like what movies did you see lately or what books did you read or like how's your pet animal doing and stuff like that so that definitely not to be overlooked but maybe, you know, video calls are becoming more and more of a thing lately so that's understandable to everybody and I feel like email is like the last thing you would want to send like with maybe some formal stuff and points, I don't know or if you want to have like a group discussion that everybody kind of take their time and think through later and just get back to you not in chat like in real time but later which can be a thing because sometimes it's again it's hard like doing a video call to come up with something like if you need some design decision later something then it's sometimes better to just sleep on it, you know think about it for a while and then your brain will come up with something and you can do that afterwards yeah, so that's my take Awesome, so next one is a little bit tough it's a little bit on the edge for you guys and we're gonna like switch it up so Marsha goes first and then Smira goes last like so that's the change now, so all of you have participated in multiple of mentorship programs in your resource and kind of have been there for some time and one thing that is very important that we let students look forward to is what are my career opportunities once I graduate out of any of these programs like what changes do I expect inside myself after I have gone through this program like is it going to be just skills learning is it going to be skills plus leadership is it going to be skills plus leadership plus delegation is it like something that I would learn and be able to implement in my career over time and then the question simply stands after going through the program did you find that your career pathways have opened up or something new has come up here something that you would not probably have seen so Marsha, you can speak off I get the most difficult question oh yeah, well, okay let me think about it for a second yeah, so before the internship I was a person in a new country where I was not sure what I was gonna be doing because I didn't know the language very well we've just moved to the Czech Republic and I was sort of learning Czech sort of doing some freelance designs and never, I guess, ever in my head did I imagine that it would be working in an international multilingual company like Red Hat and that just kind of happened to me and I honestly could not comprehend that because I thought it's a second AT company there's no designers, there's no sign position so it's just not, not for me and look at me, here I am 70 years later as an interaction designer so that's definitely something that the internship opened up for me, I learned all the new tools like I learned all the open-source design tools and I didn't know about them before well, maybe I knew about them but didn't use them as much because I was not in the habit of doing that that's one thing and then I also learned to be sort of in a corporate environment and to communicate with people and then also I had a lot of connections that I made, like even being in this culture or also because I was in an office quite a bit back then and so I communicated with all the people like I grew the connections and also we did have flocks we did have offline dev cons and so again, I met everybody like I met a lot of people from Fedora and that those are the people that are still to this day know and talk to and whenever I see them there's one of the most favorite people to see basically in the world and I feel like we're still helping each other or talking to each other from time to time and that's one thing that the program taught me and also I'm gonna mention one thing like at the beginning I was sort of a mentee because I was an intern and Maria Duffy was my mentor so to speak but later I used a lot of what I saw in our communication with her and how she approached the mentorship because I used to have these high school design interns so it's just some students that would come in the office and they would help out with design because they can have Fedora badges and so maybe some small logos around the office and such and so just the approach that she took with me, right? So how she guided me through tasks and such that helped me really, really a lot in that later because I knew how to do that because without it I probably wouldn't because I don't have like any specific training or anything like that. So I guess that's another thing I might think of something later but I'm not sure. All right, so you should have your confidence. Yeah, I like obviously the first thing that I think once we also mentioned is that I mean prior to this internship I didn't really have experience working on like actual things that are being used, right? So the biggest part of like these mentorship sort of programs is that you get to work on things which are actually being used by people. It's not just your toy project that you make yourself and then a couple of your friends use like it's actually a product that is being used by people and you get to make changes there and see how your change is made impact to all of those other people, right? So the first thing is that you get that sense of belonging that yes, whatever you're doing that is having an impact and you're not just working in an void. So that's the first thing that I got out of like all of these mentorship internship that I did. Second thing is that so when you have this experience and then when you go ahead and apply to jobs or switch jobs or whatever it is you do there this experience really helps because you already have this experience of impactful work and that speaks for itself. Like you also have experience of working with people who have like standards would be said because open source has such huge standards for regard to sport quality to the kind of processes that you employ to get things done the kind of communication that you use. All of these things are so well done in open source that for any corporate world that you enter it's just going to be a breeze for you because you already know what is the right way when should you ping people? When should you email them? Is it too often or is it too less? When is it that you need help? You shouldn't sit on a problem too long because all of these things are solved for you because you've already experienced them in a semi-professional environment, right? So these things really help and these are something that really helped me because when I entered and because like when I started a lot of other folks or what the same as me also started that is something that they clearly saw difference who hadn't had this experience was that they really struggled with communication they always used to be afraid when should I talk to my manager or when should I not? Or they just used to wait around a lot and asking questions because they were just afraid that what did they think that I am stupid? But the thing is that in a corporate environment you can just sit on something for too long and then the timelines are screwed you need to get it going, right?  So just these things really made it possible for a very easy transition from student life actually as a working professional. So these things and especially one of the things that I feel like is very well done in these mentorship programs is just the entire process like the entire team which is behind setting this entire thing up from actually posting the particular project on Outreachy or GSOC and for the final completion that you actually publish the report on like the Fedora Community blog or whatever it is for GSOC. This entire pipeline from you read the description you understand what you need to do you go to the right channels the mailing list or the telegram group or the IRC you communicate with them you go through the entire process of actually getting selected you go through the entire process of actually doing the work that needs to be done doing all of the necessary things in it and then actually completing it. This entire process really teaches you a lot about how a project goes from just a thought to actually being executed which is very, very important for every single project that you do when you're in a professional setting and just iterating on that and learning a lot from that really helps you you're not a newbie when you actually enter a full-time job you actually have experience of okay how this is how this executed. So that's something that I have used so many kinds of this then I've implemented so much of how things were done at Fedora in like you know even where I'm working just because it was so well done. So yeah, these are like you know few things that you pick up from this mentorship that you're going to be selected for anybody who's like you know watching this who's hoping to get selected. I really hope that these are some things that you focus on while you go to the internship and especially one last thing is that just the quality of code you write and especially you know the PR that you open the kind of descriptive comments that you add just really high standards for even commit messages that I remember when Justin used to write a PR he just used to like crack his knuckles when it was time to write a commit message like it was just like such a long like you know paragraphs and paragraphs and go back to any commit you will get the entire context of why this change was done and this is something which is very, very you don't want to be pinging your coworkers that like odd things just to understand you know why this is done especially when you're working in a distributed team. So yeah, I'll stop my band now. What I have to say is actually a combination of what Marsha and Shradda mentioned. So actually before this intern like for my outreach internship I did not know about open source design. I thought that open source only had a sort of tech component never really was exposed to the design part. So I was very happily surprised and I also thought that this was a one off right? Like during before my internship I thought that this is just one single project that probably focuses on design also, right? Not really something that you would find commonly or like people would have jobs for. So that was a good surprise and that's how I got inducted into the open source community. In fact, the job that I have right now is very closely related to my internship. So if I were to trace a path after I was done with my internship I was still in contact with some of the people from Fedora and then one day Justin approached me and he asked me to be on he was on a podcast he was like he was on a podcast for sustainable open source design and he asked me to be a guest on it. So I said yes, even though I was kind of scared because I didn't think I had anything to add but we talked about open source design in the outreach that was a good experience. And on that podcast there were six other people who were on the panel and who were already established or were doing something in the open source design community. Right now when I applied to my job this is I think a year or so after that they actually mentioned the podcast and I didn't actually like talk to them directly about it it was on my portfolio. They mentioned that podcast they said they had listened to it and they knew someone who was on the panel, right? And that's what they sort of made like a positive comment about it that I actually listened to that because we know so and so who was also was also on that podcast. So I think for me that was, you know one of the reasons that I got selected for my job and this is a very direct consequence that and what Shraddha mentioned about soft skills, right? You pick up a lot of quality like how to work basically, not exactly like obviously you will pick up a lot of skills. I like learned a lot of tools, open source design tools and just in general design skills but also how to work, how to communicate with someone you're working with, you know how to ask questions, when to ping people and how to do that, right? Not just open-ended questions. I could see a difference between like me before the internship and me after the internship and I have carried that throughout in other internships and the job that I've done. And also I think the best thing of all is just the comfort level that you have like after working with other people. I feel like this is sort of like a, how do you say? Like a safety net you are still working in an organization or in a community where you're involved with other people but it isn't as intimidating as you know like a corporate environment could be because everyone here is very nice and like they are mentoring you so they expect you to make mistakes and they are not like, they're no punishments for making mistakes. So just this kind of like a safe environment to have your first working experience in makes you feel very confident. And so now when I'm actually working or I have calls with my colleagues, I am not scared. I don't have to sit for an hour before each call just to make sure that everything is fine. You know, I'm not, I don't have the, I don't have the panic stress basically now. And it's because that I went through this internship that I had the confidence that I'm able to do this now. So yeah. All right, so that was a tough question. So guys, I'm glad you guys answered it really nicely for people. There is a lot of takeaway from people like you have graduated out of such internship programs and are doing really nice in the industry. So one thing that always comes back to the orgs, right? The orgs for mentoring units is what do you, in a far distant future, probably like, let's say five years, if we're to look back and say, okay, if the org or the mentors or the org admins and the structure in itself were to be slightly turned and it would have favored us really nice, what would that slight turn be? Like think of it like a change either in your mentor communicating. So you guys have awesome mentors who have communicated really well, set expectations really nice. What is this one thing that still is kind of there? If you want to address, you want to talk about the guys are out of internship programs now. Yeah, like you can talk about it freely. So go ahead, tell me something that the org, either the org, the mentors and the org admin. So in this case, admins are really people, Akash, Mori, right? So we could have done that in order to support you guys in the future. What I'll do is I'll actually take that question first because I've been kind of dodging and doing it in between. So every day that question first. So Fedora is actually extremely easy from like the get go, like just even contacting mentors, like I've done it for other like, you know, organization and it's a pain, like just even to start that conversation, that conversation thread whether it be like, you know, IRC or email or whatever it is, it's a pain, but with Fedora that was really, really easy. Like if you look at the professional aspect of it from that first, you know, interaction to actually getting the project done, it has been very easy. And I mentioned this is the thing that went really well was that the communication was very strong, but this was very true for all the professional things, for all the outsourcing that I needed for, all the things that I needed in context for the project itself. But then outside of it, there was not much room to, you know, like outside of just my project mentors, there was not much room to just communicate, you know, freely with the other interns in, you know, different projects that maybe the GSOC interns, I met them when we had an offsite. But before that, there wasn't really any interactions where I could, you know, like talk to them before and even informally, right? Just having maybe something. I remember we had an interview, something that we gave a form and we just filled out like, you know, like a couple of questions about that says also a couple of informal questions. And then there's those approach, I believe Samantro heads that I think. So that was really nice. And I got to read and got to know them, but there was no actually, you know, face-on-face time with them, but I could actually interact with them and not just them, but also the mentors for them as well, right? Just getting involved with the community.  I know everybody is very busy, but this would, this would like make, this would be like awesome to have, just to know more people in the community and not be a stranger. Although like Fedora does an awesome job at it, as like already, but just something to add there. And yeah, and I think Mary's mentioned something to do an animalized social, and yeah, we should definitely do that. Like, I would definitely want to meet, you know, all the rest of them turns out before and after me. Like, that would be awesome.  And just like, you know, just this thing where we're having a mentor summit. This would have been like so helpful back in the day when, you know, I was planning to be an intern and you know, trying to get there. So yeah, just that was, that was me. Right. I actually don't have a lot to add in this question mainly because this was my first experience and I think this is the only open source community I've been actively part of. So for me, I don't have a scale to sort of measure, but for me, everything went really nicely. The one thing that is sort of impractical but would be good to have is, as Marcia mentioned, design is something that is best done when you're sitting together and just like, oh, you know, you're getting reviews, you're sitting together. And just in that like physical space being together that for me also works best. I know that this is a remote internship. So actually, you know, like turning it into a physical one would be counterproductive, but to have that option of physical meetups, you know, obviously COVID happened. So we don't have luck and things like this anymore. But those are really necessary, not just for the fun aspect of it, but also to get to know other people, be more at ease. And just when you are physically hanging out with someone or even working, that's a whole different ball game than being on a ball or like working digitally. So I'm just gonna say what Marie mentioned in chat that the interns would go to flock all the time. So would they kind of meet each other? But then I realized that nowadays those flocks not been happening for two years now. How many, I don't know, COVID's been there for a long time. I guess that's an issue, right? So they don't meet together. And I guess it's been nice to just have regular calls. And as from my take on this question, I've been thinking really hard since yesterday, since I got the question. Like what could have been done differently? What went, didn't go well? I honestly, I don't know. Like the only thing that I can think of and it's not directly related to the internship is that the setup to just get started and get contributing and maybe just, you know, installing some of the software used to be kind of maybe a little bit hard-ish. I'm not sure like how it is right now. I know the thing has been working very hard to fix that. So people would get on board it more easily, especially in the design team, the people who are not as technical maybe, who have trouble setting up a stage case and stuff like that who need help doing that and can be tough doing that online. But that's honestly like the only thing that I could think of truly. I actually have one more thing to add an extension to what you just said is that in the very beginning, like in the first few weeks, everything is just a little, there's just a little bit of friction because you're not that comfortable in the community yet or even with your mentors, like, you know, asking questions. If in that period, we could like just set up more frequent calls with our mentor rather than that just once a week, just while we're getting the setup done or just getting started with the project, that frequency could be just a little bit higher and obviously our cordons with the mentor if they have the time for it, definitely. That would actually bring down a lot of asynchronous conversation and just in terms, just sitting with their head between their hands and like trying to understand how to make this work, how to just run this. That would also, you know, like again, like you asked the questions about communication thing, that is just a little bit of, you know, time frame where I really think that it would help to just have more synchronous communication instead of doing just like maybe a one call of things. Yeah, that's it. That's very detailed and that's really good. So there are a lot of takeaway items like literally Murray and people are planning things right now on the basis of the discussion. So that's good. That's good. That's the input that we were looking at. Okay, one thing that always comes to our mind when we look at all this candidates coming and going, we see all these people showing interest and we always kind of want to retain them. We have this thing that let's retain most of these people some form or the other. Either in a formal mentorship, in any formal mentorship, probably in a setting where they would feel comfortable contributing even the slightest bit, but they should be connected with the community. What reward mechanisms come to your mind? What mechanisms come to your mind when it comes to, interns being retained by projects in this case, that's a factor, right? So what comes to your mind? Go ahead. Okay. I would say that's a good question because I myself struggled with this because right after my internship ended, I got involved with college and I felt really guilty about not being able to put in enough time to be involved in the community, especially because for the three months, I had only done that. And then after that, it was basically no, right? There was some, I would mostly get involved in events. So I think that is something like not something day to day, but whenever there was an event or when there was NEST, we also had better women say. So for those specific events, for that period, I would get more active. So I think that's a good way to call back people, even this doing this, right? Like having a panel where people can come and talk. So it might not be the kind of contribution, it's not basically just resolving issues, but this is a sort of contribution that people can take time out of their day to do, right? And secondly, or plan events. I was looking forward to flock during my time, but it's been two years now, but I think, you know, there's always that incentive of, you know, after we do this, we get to have a lot of fun. We get to hang out, party, network, everything. So all of that is sort of incentive for I think for people to stay. Yeah, completely agree with Smera that again, offline events help, but even online events like this one, like after even my internship, like Smera mentioned, I wasn't in constant, you know, like I wasn't in touch with my mentors, but then apart from that, to the wider community, I wasn't really in touch with for long, but then whenever it came to events like this or organizing a federal women's day in my college, back when we, I think, yeah, 2019 itself, because yeah, before times. So yeah, stuff like that really helped because I could still promote whatever it is that I learned in Fedora to the wider, you know, community that I was in touch with outside of Fedora, right? And bringing folks from there, a couple of my juniors actually joined the Fedora community. They're active in it even now. So these things really help. Just even now, like I'm here after like three or four years, you know, talking about whatever it is that I learned during my time as a mentor here. So just these kind of events, I think help, but outside of that, even, you know, if you folks have any idea, how even I could like, you know, get involved again, that would be great, I'd be happy to know. I take my previous words back. This is the hardest question. I know a lot of people have been working to solve this, like how do you say, make people stay with Fedora after they've done with their internships, some mentorships or whatever. And it is really hard. And one of the things that I thought of during the years that I was thinking about it is that it takes a certain type of people to kind of keep contributing. And one of the things that I've heard from talking to a bunch of Fedora folks is that what they like to do in life is that they like to help people out. So if somebody has a problem and they work to solve it during their internship or just as a contributor, and then they get the feedback back that, hey, that worked. Thank you very much. Like you made my life better. And then just a pure reward of doing that and just getting something back from the community. It's maybe one of the best things. And just the community itself, like I mentioned this before, and to this day, like whenever I see someone from the Fedora community, maybe they did not even contribute anymore. Maybe they've moved on, but I still feel like they're sort of family, all great people. So that and just the pure possibility of going to flock would make me contribute so much harder, honestly.  But then if I thought, hey, I can go to flock, oh my God, I would make time for sure. All right, so we are for nine minutes of the session to wrap up and we have four questions. So this is going to be kind of like rapid fire if you will. So here we go. First thing, as a former mentor, do you feel like you could be a mentor? I'll take that one first. I am actually doing my first outreach project this summer as a mentor. So it's, I won't say that it's not super scary, it's intimidating, especially because I was like, I feel like I was right there two years ago, right? I was on the other end. So I'm like, okay, it's been so much time already that now I am a mentor, that when I told my parents, I explained it to them like this. I'm like, you know how Marie was a mentor to me? I'm going to be someone's Marie. And then that thought is sort of like, oh my God, oh my God, I have big shoes to fill then. So yeah, I think it does make you want to do that.  There is also that internal sort of anxiety about being able to do a good job.  You're making Marie cry, stop. Yeah, no, yeah. I think it's like the best way to progress in your career into the life, just going from mentee to being a mentor. Like I mentioned before, you have all the interns and I would sort of build up on the knowledge that I got from Mo and just to think back, like what would a Mo do in this situation? Like what would she tell them? And so it's great that they have someone to sort of fall back onto, right? And someone to ask questions, like if you need advice, and if you probably have encountered many great people in your life who have sort of guided you on your job path, maybe even after the mentorship happened. So you can always think, oh, hey, what would they do in this situation? And that's always a great thing that would help you. And I think it's just only natural to become someone's mentor, sort of to give back what you received, right? And like if I had an opportunity to be someone's mentor, again, I would totally do it because it's very rewarding. Again, teaching someone stuff that you've learned, right? And showing them how they can contribute and can move on with their career. That's all the great things that you can do. I think you folks almost covered everything that I wanted to say here, but just like one more thing, since it's rapid fire anyway, is that it doesn't just, you know, like is limited to these mentorship programs that like this also extends into your like full-time job. Like I was, I think back in October last time, I was interviewing folks to actually join my company.   And we talked about it as well, Justin, and it really like, when they actually joined full-time, it was such a fulfilling feeling, just knowing that you were also part of, you know, their journey. And I'm hiring interns again in the company who I'm going to be mentoring. So it's, yeah, it's all, it's an awesome feeling. And yeah, I really hope I'm able to do how good at the job as Justin did with me. Awesome. So any advice for a future aspirin Fedora project internship candidate? So any, any, any advice from you guys, any tips, any facts, any specific things to look out for? I would, I would say, don't be afraid. That's, I think, if I could condense it, because I remember during my internship, I was very afraid of a lot of things, of doing a bad job, of, you know, even communicating on like, on the public channel, like, oh, what would other people think of me? But I think, and this is, this is the advice that we would also get at that time. Like, don't be afraid to ask questions. No one's going to judge you.  And, and even right now, I feel that, okay, that was actually the best advice that you could get. It's hard to internalize, sure. It's like, it comes through practice, but once you get over that fear, that sort of hesitance that you would get from like being a newcomer to the community, once you get over that, you will feel right at home too. And you will learn so much. Like there, no one ever judges you for not knowing stuff. I mean, two days before I texted to the public that I don't know how to make a commit, so I can't. And that's, I think that's a very basic thing that people can do in the open source community. But I was like, okay, I don't know. I have, I'm technically a computer science engineer in my final year, I've done four years. I still don't know how to do a commit. But that's fine. Then someone else, you know, agreed to help me out and this, and we were like, okay, we'll sit together and do this. And it's going to be a learning experience. So don't be afraid. That's my advice. If I can second that, and also something I thought of is that if any sort of opportunities come your way and if you get any suggestions to take part in this and that, don't say no. Say yes all the time. Like even if you think you don't know what's going to happen, like you're not sure you can do it, say yes. I mean, say yes, and then you'll figure it out.  Chances are you already know what you need to know. And if you don't, you're going to learn while you're, I don't know, preparing for something. And then you're going to meet a lot of great people meanwhile, like on your way to that. I'll just start with that is that just keep the open source spirit alive. Like don't make it into a rat race where you're competing with like the other folks or also trying to like make it to this project. Just keep the open source spirit alive, help people, help out other people.  Just always be helpful and always try to sustain the community instead of, you know, trying to be like the, or duck here. So yeah, just that. All right. The last question, and this is like, what practice would you recommend to a mentee in order to make a better experience in terms of learning and growth? So you guys have already talked a lot about many of these following certain footsteps. Any practices that you guys follow? Like meditation and yoga, you know, I don't know, any practices that you guys follow that may be productive in terms of learning and growth? So something that has worked really well for me always. Like I do it even now is that right, right, everything. Like my notes are just filled with my conversation that I did back in the day with like, Fiona, Justin, even when like I went on the off-site with like, you know, Proctor Fedora, even from then I have like so many notes from so many conversations that you have with like so many people that you meet. It's your brain, it's not a hard disk. It's not going to keep everything in store.  So just write, write out your thoughts, journal if you may, but definitely just keep a lot of notes. I would say to not give up on problems, but know when to take a break, right? Especially this is something that I still haven't gotten the hang of doing, especially in design, when you're making something, if it doesn't come to you, you can work on it for hours and hours and hours at end, you're not going to get it, right? If I'm supposed to come up with a badge or something, I could spend hours and if it's not coming to me, it's just not going to happen that day, right? I need to take a break, I need to, you know, get some external inspiration, some motivation, maybe walk around, need to take a break, get away from the screen, sleep on it, and trust me, it will be better. But make sure that you have done your best before you reach that point where you've exhausted most of your options and you're like, okay, I know that I can't do any more of this. It's a fine balance between giving up too early or just basically giving up the first time you run into a problem and versus going at it, even though it's not productive anymore. But yeah, once you find that balance, it's going to make your work and your learning experience so much better.  Like a lot of times what happened used to happen if I was working on a design and it's just not coming to me, I would think, okay, I have failed as a designer, I am ashamed to the community, I don't know anything. I don't know basic color theory, I don't know about like visual stuff, I don't know anything. Then the next day, I would sleep on it, then the next day it would come to me instantly, you know?  Okay, that's me now, I don't know. Maybe one of the things which I didn't follow myself, but I think that's good thing to keep in mind, you can set goals for yourself, like what do I want to accomplish as a result of this internship or mentorship or a program or something that you're taking, right? And just have that goal in mind, like maybe what do you wanna learn during that or maybe what do you wanna grow into?  So maybe something like that would be helpful. And again, write everything down, I really love that. I remember I still have somewhere like a printouts of IRC conversations with Mo with some of the advice, you know, with my things underlined. Yeah, that's so true. I like to write everything down too all the time, still to this day. Awesome. So it was really nice hearing your thoughts out of the experiences and everything. There is always, there's a lot of learning, it's an ever moving process for me, it has always been. So thanks for being here on Saturday, sharing experiences. This means a really lot to all the people who are watching. These are the people who have actually gone ahead and done exceptional contributions to open source software and also some of the new mentors this year. So you might be able to work with them in a number of times. Right, so thank you all.


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What's up everyone? Welcome into the week 11 waiver wire Q&A presented by FanDuel. I'm Simon here as always with our co-host here to answer your questions, JJ Zacharyson. JJ, what's up, my man? What's up, man? I'm doing as well as I can with this Cooper Cup and Dallas Goddard news. Not the best news to hear, but we move on and we got to use the waiver wire to make our teams better. We're worried about JT, then he comes out, drops a 147 yard game and then the next super starter to injured. Now we're worried about someone else. We can't have nice things here in fantasy football, but guys, we are here today to answer any and all waiver wire questions you have. So if you've got them, throw them in the chat and we will be glad to get to them before we get into that, guys, if you're not already doing so make sure you are following JJ over on Twitter at late round QB and check out his work at late round.com. He's the creator of late round fantasy football. And if you're not listening to his podcast over there, you're missing out. We got a question in here already from our friend Victor. Victor said, Hey JJ, second week asking, do I go back and start Greg Dulcich against the Raiders with maybe no Jerry Judy, or do I pick up Cole Comet and start him? I dropped Comet on Sunday and started Dulcich. Oof. So are you going back to the well with Dulcich or are you plugging in Cole Comet after two weeks, two touchdowns in a back to back weeks? Yeah, look, so I talked about Cole Comet a little bit on my podcast today and I think, you know, he's someone who has obviously fallen into some good fortune over the last couple of weeks. You know, the bottom line with Chicago and that offense, they have averaged 20 team targets per game, which is absurd. It's insanely low. I mean, this is like the run heaviest team that we've seen in football over the last like 15 years.  We're looking at the results and we're saying, Oh my gosh, Cole Comet is so good. Yada, yada, yada. In order for Cole Comet to just see five targets in that offense, he needs a 25% target share, which is very, very difficult for a tight end to sustain and see. It just so happens this past week and the week before that against Miami, two top five matchups in adjusted fantasy points, a lot of tight ends. You know, two good matchups Cole Comet does very well. He finds the end zone four total times on nine receptions. That kind of efficiency is just not going to maintain. It's just, it's just not. And so I actually think that commits someone that you can add and then sell and trade away right now. You know, I think he's fine to add off the waiver wire, but if Judy's out, I would, I would feel pretty good about Dole Sitch, you know, upping that target share that he saw this past week. It was only like 10, 11%. I'd feel better about Dole Sitch than Cole Comet. I know that a lot of people probably think that's a little bit crazy. I don't mind Comet. I think he's fine. I think that he's a reasonable play this week, just giving the match up, giving the game environment. But, you know, I haven't researched enough yet for this week to say definitively I would play this guy over this guy because it's still, you know, Tuesday afternoon and typically we're getting into our, you know, following week stuff, you know, Wednesdays and stuff and we're looking at matchups and whatnot. But I can tell you this, I would rather have Dole Sitch still rest of season than Cole Comet if that, if that's a little clearer, you know, maybe not this week, but at least rest of season. 100%. And something to consider, most of these teams are through their buy weeks now or approaching the end of season buys and Cole Comet does have a week 14 buy and then in weeks 15 and 16, he's playing the Eagles and the Bills and they're only throwing the ball 20 times a game. So I'm with you. I think Cole Comet, you can start him. He'll probably have another good game against the Falcons this week, but then I'm trying to send him off if I can. And to your point, like go look at his game logs. Even whenever they're throwing the ball, like these past two weeks, high target share, but before that, three targets, three targets, four targets, two targets. And that's not a knock on Comet. It's just this bears offense and how it's working. Nathan hears the testing. One, two, three tests and you're coming in loud and clear, Nathan. We hear you. And Charles had a question for us, JJ. Charles said, should I drop the rest of my fab PPR on just Christian Watson or a little on both Paris Campbell and Jalen Warren? I mean, I think that you can definitely make the argument that, hang on, just one second. I need to, sorry. So yeah, I mean, I think you can make the argument that Christian Watson is definitely someone that you could, you could, you could blow the rest of your fab on.  I mean, with Matt Ryan and his last three starts, Paris Campbell has been like a friend wide receiver one in fantasy football. So he definitely should be added. I love Jalen Warren too. It just depends on what your total roster looks like here. To say if you should divvy things up or not go all in with Christian Watson, but I will say Christian Watson 42% target share, Aaron Rodgers led offense, Uber athleticism. I think that he makes a lot of sense as someone who could pop off and be this year's like Amon Ross St. Brown. It might not happen. But you know, a couple of weeks ago on my show, he was one of the guys that I that I called out as someone who could be this year's Amon Ross St. Brown because I'm not saying that as a back patting moment, although I know that it sounds like I'm just like tooting my own horn. I'm saying that just because this was at least semi predictable. This wasn't just something that just like totally, totally came out of nowhere. You're talking second round draft capital for a crazy good athlete in this Aaron Rodgers led offense. He's going to have some boneheaded plays, which is what we've seen from him throughout the season. He doesn't have great hands, but he can get open and he can separate because he's so fast. And so I do think that Watson has an opportunity to be like that dude, that big league winner this year down the stretch. And because of that, you know, I don't want to leave that on the waiver wire. So I'm going to be aggressive with this week if he's out there for me. Yeah, I don't mind dropping that on Watson. And to your point, like we talked about him being a good athlete that maybe even be understanding a little like from an athletic profile perspective, no one's even come close to like what he did at the at the combiner in his draft profile since like what they say like Calvin Johnson was the last person to have better measurables than him. Yeah. And look, he, you know, from like in my prospect model, it didn't like love Christian Watson because he's a smaller school guy. He wasn't an early Declare. It didn't hate him. He was still like in a decent spot. He had good draft capital. But, you know, sometimes athleticism translates. We saw this to rookie season Chase Claypool that really translated and it worked out for him.  But there are some DK Metcalf that translated for DK Metcalf. But there's some guys where it doesn't like a Chris Conley, for instance, who's a crazy, crazy good athlete and he just hasn't been able to bring it together at the NFL level. So, you know, there's a lot to it. But having that like 99th percentile athleticism, it can work out and it can be big. And so I don't want to leave that on the waiver wire. You know, I don't know what this guy's team, what Charles, your team looks like. And I like Paris Campbell. I love Jalen Warren, especially because there's a report today about Najee Harris's knee not being 100%. There's a lot going on with Najee Harris in general. So I like adding those players. I just would need to know what your team makeup looks like to say whether or not you should go all in on Christian Watson. Yeah, I will say I'm fairly bullish on Paris Campbell. The coaching staff prior to those games was hyping him up saying they need to get him more involved. And then to your point, wide receiver nine, wide receiver five, and wide receiver 11 in the last three starts with Matt Ryan, since that coaching staff talked him up. And Matt Ryan looks like he's going to be the starter going down the stretch. I'm not predicting a wide receiver one rest of season from Paris Campbell. But in a limited sample size, it's pretty promising what you're seeing in the volume of targets 11, 12, and nine. Like who's getting it done for PPR? Paris Campbell is startable as long as Matt Ryan is starting. Guys, we are going to prioritize waiver wire questions here. So if you've got waiver wire questions throw them in there. If we've got time, we will hit non-waver wire questions as well. Come here now saying JJ kind of looks like Joe Flacco. Have you ever gotten that before? Yeah, I know. People have been, you know, it's funny. I'll tell you a little quick story. I actually have a Joe Flacco head somewhere behind me because my daughter, when she was like a year old, I had this little figure of Joe Flacco with like a real picture of his head.  And she was walking around with it and she dropped it.  And I once, and I put it on Twitter. It's out there somewhere. It's like from a year and a half, two years ago. I guess it was probably two and a half years ago because my daughter is now four. But I said who is that to my daughter and she said Daddy. It's just one point at Joe Flacco. So yes, I've gotten that many, many times before. Yes. That's hilarious. I guess there's worse comparisons that could be made. Yeah. We have a question in here from Victor. Victor wanted a better second half running back you would rather have. So a lot of these guys are, both of these guys are pretty readily available on the waiver wire. Isaiah Pacheco took over as the starter for the Kansas City Chiefs. Rashad White earned the start and then Leonard Fournet going out with a hit pointer. JJ, which one of these two backs would you prefer? Isaiah Pacheco or Rashad White? Love them both. Guys that I have littered across my rosters.  So I like them both, but I will say I think Rashad White is the answer here. He's already locked into looking like at least a 45, 55, maybe 50, 50 split with Leonard Fournet when Fournet's healthy. That could even improve. White was a very, very good prospect. His top comp in my prospect model was actually David Johnson, which ironically David Johnson was drafted by Bruce Arians. And Bruce Arians is on this, in this front office. And so I have to think that that had something to do with Rashad White getting drafted. We've seen the explosiveness. I mean, he just looks more. Leonard Fournet does his thing as a bruiser and he can get those tough yards. But Rashad White is just more explosive than Leonard Fournet is at the line of scrimmage. And he's a good pass catcher too. I mean, you know, I know he didn't do that much through the air against Seattle this past week, but Rashad White was an incredible receiver in college. That's really what he was known for similar to what we saw with David Johnson entering the NFL. And so that's why the comp is there and that the size and speed score and stuff was all relatively comparable. I just think that this situation in Tampa Bay is a little bit more attractive than Isaiah Pacheco because Jerrick McKinnon is locked into the third down role, the pass catching role in that Kansas City offense. You can make the argument in PPR formats that Jerrick McKinnon is a better asset to have than Isaiah Pacheco. I think Pacheco is more upside because a lot can, you know, if things break his way down the stretch and they have a really good schedule down the stretch for running backs. If things do break Isaiah Pacheco's way a little bit and they use him a little bit more in those circumstances, he could be a league winner. I mean, he could be really, really awesome. But I do think that Rashad White is the safer bet. We're already seeing some reports of Rashad White just being the starter moving forward. You have that injury to Leonard Fournet, which I know Shepter tweeted and said that everything's fine. No big deal. But we've seen that before with players and then they go and practice the next week and they're not OK. And then all of a sudden, you know, the backup is getting a lot more work than we expect. So I have Rashad White ranked ahead of Pacheco, but I do think Pacheco is very, very much a good asset in fantasy football moving forward. I'm with you. Is CEH dust for fantasy now with Pacheco taking over that role? I think, yeah. I mean, like, you know, if you're in a deep league, a deep enough league, you can probably still roster CEH just to see if things change. But, you know, trends wise definitely has been going in the wrong direction ever since that rap sheet report. Everyone gives rap report like a hard time for that. For that report that he had that one week, I think it was week seven where he said that Isaiah Pacheco was going to be the starter and Clyde Edwards, a layer was going to play the Pacheco role. And then Jarek McKinnon would be like the third guy. And, you know, it wasn't totally right, but it wasn't totally wrong because CEH really did start to see fewer and fewer snaps since then. It's just that last week was the first time since that change where Kansas City had an opponent where they could run the football on. They had Jacksonville last week. There are two other games they had San Francisco and Tennessee. And those two teams are really hard to run the football on. And not only that, but they just couldn't, they didn't have necessarily positive game scripts the way they did this past week against Jacksonville. And we should expect positive game scripts from the Chiefs because they're good. So to me, CEH probably in 10 or 12 team leagues most likely can be dropped. We've got two questions in here about an Allen Robinson with this Cooper Cup injury. Come here now. And Nick wants to know if Allen Robinson is a must add off the waiver wire this week with the Cup injury. We should never use the phrase must add with Allen Robinson. Yeah, look, I mean, like he should be added for sure. You know, is he someone that I'm going to be like, for instance, I have Christian Watson well ahead of Allen Robinson rest of season right now because I would rather have the upside take the chance on a player like that as opposed to Robinson who struggled. You know, Robinson's struggles aren't only because Cooper Cup was there and he was getting so many targets. I mean, Robinson has plenty of opportunity. It's not like Robinson was seeing like a 20, 22 percent target share and then Cooper Cup was seeing a 30 percent target share.  No, Allen Robinson has had multiple games of really bad target shares this season. He's not the same Allen Robinson. It's very clear now should he be added. Sure.  I want to say my rest of season rankings right now somewhere around there.  I think rest of season, but he's not someone that I'm like overly. So I'm trying to find it. Yeah. I have a wide receiver 44 rest of season right now. Here's Campbell or Allen Robinson rest of season. I think that you could make the if you need a media product. I mean, now that I'm thinking about it more, I have Robinson ahead of Campbell, but I might put Campbell ahead of Robinson because yeah, because of these splits, but they're actually in the exact same tier for what it's worth. So like, you know, I generally look at my my rankings not in that linear fashion, but more in tiers and Robinson and Paris Campbell are in the exact tier. So it was a perfect player to throw out there because you know, they're there. That's the kind of look that I'm like, I think that more people are going to go after Allen Robinson off the waiver wire this week if he's out there because of the Cooper Cup injury, then Paris Campbell, I would much rather spend down on Paris Campbell and get him then have to spend 20 or 25 percent of my fob to get Allen Robinson. Absolutely. So not a must add, but someone that probably can be added. Maybe you can start him. Garrett in here, a keeper question. I wanted to know any running backs that you're trying to snag off waivers in a keeper league for next season since we're talking about White and Pacheco. So maybe some guys where the rest of the season isn't looking great for them, but you could hold on to them for a value for next year. Um, that's a hard question. I'm looking at some of my rankings just to like think off the top of my head. Richard White's honestly won that you could you would want for next year, as is Isaiah Pacheco. I don't know. Do you have anyone off the top of your head that could that could fit this bill? Oh, Khalil Herbert, if he's out there because David Montgomery is on the last year of his rookie deal. I would look at look at like a over the cap type site and find guys who are on their expiring deals last year, their deal and find the backup. And Khalil Herbert is like the perfect example of that because David Montgomery is probably going to be gone after the season in Chicago. And then Khalil Herbert who's obviously been pretty good. He's just not seeing a lot of work through the air, which is why he's not more fantasy relevant. But, uh, Khalil Herbert could be there. They're they're running back. They're starting running back next year. So he's he's one that would pop them on. Any of the Atlanta backs like maybe CP's on his way out. Maybe if Tyler Algear or something on the waiver wire, do you think they're going to replace them not worth having in a keeper league? I think the yeah, I mean, I think you could go to the Algear route. The problem that I see is I don't know that he's separated himself so much from Caleb Huntley that he would be like a locked in, you know, like I'm trying to think like where would Tyler Algear's ADP be if he were the RB one on their depth chart entering next season.  And let's say somehow get a good quarterback this off season. But, um, you know, it's just, you know, he makes sense for sure to some degree. But I would probably rather go after like a Herbert or something like that. But a lot of these guys that that are like capable, like very rarely are you going to get a guy who just comes from absolutely nowhere.  You're right. It's going to be the Javante Williams, the Breeze Halls, maybe an AJ Dillon who underperformed this year but could step back into a better role next year. Cyclone here want to know is it worth rostering both Detroit running backs on the same team? If I have Kenneth Walker, Alvin Camara and Pollard as well or drop one of them because they're struggling a wide receiver and there's some good wide receiver pickups on the waiver wire this week. JJ, would you be holding on to both Detroit backs or are you comfortable dropping one of those guys? I don't think you can drop them at this point because Deandre Swift could just see more work. You know, he's at least trending up. He had 16% of the team snaps two weeks ago was 30% this past week, little over 30%. You know, Jamal Williams is seeing the early down work and seeing the goal line works. There's value there. So, you know, I don't think that you can drop either one of those guys even though you're looking decent enough at running back. But, you know, you have Kenneth Walker on a buy this week. You have Tony Pollard getting Zeke back potentially eventually. I do think that Pollard is going to see more work in the offense than he did earlier this season when Zeke was playing. So, at least there's you know, that going for him. But it's not like Pollard is like a locked in RB one rest of season. You know what I mean? So, like, I wouldn't say that you're running back.  Don't get me wrong. But I wouldn't say that they're like the best running back room in the world that you can just go and drop Deandre Swift. And so, I would still hold on to Swift. I mean, see if you can trade one of them, obviously. And then get your wide receiver help that way. Absolutely. It is. I get that question in the cycle. It does.  You can't drop them, but you're sure as well not starting them until you see them out there on the field doing something. For what it's worth, Detroit is a really good running back schedule moving forward. I think it's top five according to my numbers. And so, you know, that's at least something good to go on to with these guys. I just, I would have a really hard time. You can't drop them all Williams because he's seeing work. And then I'd have a really hard time just dropping a talent like Deandre Swift. Absolutely. Landon here said, Andy said, Hey, JJ, love your content. Thanks. Needs to pick up two of these players off the waiver wire and has to start one of them this week. So one of them has to be able to be started this week. The players out there are Christian Watson, Alan Robinson, Donovan Peoples Jones, Drake London and Paris Campbell. Which two of those would you be prioritizing? Easily Christian Watson. I'm way higher than the market on Christian Watson right now. I know that because I compare my rankings to consensus rankings after I do them. I'm way higher on Watson. I think he's like a fringe wide receiver three right now. Just in terms of like the ceiling that we could see. I'd rather be aggressive with it than not be aggressive. So Watson for sure is on that list. And I think the next guy, it's between Donovan Peoples Jones and Paris Campbell. You know, if you need that immediate production, you could probably just play Watson this week. You know, I haven't done any of my my rankings or anything or my research for this week in the matchups. But the matchup I know on Thursday is not bad for him. Peoples Jones versus Paris Campbell. I might just I'm going to say Peoples Jones. I do have him ranked ahead in my rest of season rankings. But I would try to honestly if these guys are on your waiver wire and you're needing wide receiver help. I would do my best to get all three of those guys. I would probably rank them Watson, Peoples Jones and Campbell. But I think that there's a pretty, I think that that Campbell is someone that you should be trying to at least get an acquire and have on your team because his numbers have just been so good with Matt Ryan the last few weeks. I'm going to lean Campbell here, but I like the Peoples Jones that I'm with you. Just flip flop those two, but both of them are immediately startable. And Peoples Jones has to Sean Watson coming back in just a couple weeks. Maybe does that give you any nerves for Donovan Peoples Jones and maybe the chemistry isn't there with a new quarterback and the success has been with Jacobi Verset. Not really. I mean a lot of it to, you know, Peoples Jones, this is something that I have that I recorded for my 10 trends episode that's going to drop tomorrow, but Cleveland this season, they've scored 24 offensive touchdowns and only eight of them have been passing touchdowns, which is the lowest passing touchdown rate in the league. So just in terms of how they're scoring touchdowns, 33% of their touchdowns have been through the air, which is a very, very low number, no matter your personnel, no matter how run heavy you are. So there is some regression that's going to hit that plays into why Donovan Peoples Jones has the most yardage in the league right now without a touchdown. And so I think that, you know, touchdown regression should hit. The schedule is pretty nice. You know, Deshaun Watson comes back. He's playing number two snaps. He is the number two guy. So I feel confident in that ceiling. That's really why I think I'm going to prefer him slightly to Paris Campbell, but I think we're on the same page. The Paris Campbell is a good ad this week regardless. And anyone holding on to Anthony Schwartz, hoping that would become something this year. Donovan Peoples Jones crushing those dreams. Steven in here wanting to know Christian Watson or Kaderi's Tony. Is this going to be Watson again for you, JJ? Yeah, for sure.  You should add him as a speculative ad, but I do think the one thing we have to keep in mind is that Miko Hardman was out this past week. Jujus Micheuster had a concussion and that's part of the reason why we saw an increase in Snapshare for Kaderi's. It was going to happen. I mean, he's going to see more and more snaps as he gets acclimated to that offense, but it went from an 8% Snapshare to a 45% Snapshare. So even with Miko Hardman, even with Jujus Micheuster getting hurt, a 45% Snapper, it is not very good. And I'm not saying that Kaderi is Tony's bad.  This is the perfect offense for him and you should be stashing him. But Christian Watson is a full-time player in this offense coming off a monster game. The other thing too, Christian Watson hit a 42% Target share in that game on Sunday. There's been 11 wide receivers now including him to hit that high of a target, a 40% Target share in a game this season.  I mean, it's not an easy thing to do what Christian Watson did. That's why I think that he's easily the top ad this week. You know, you can throw darts at Kaderi's Tony. I have no issue with that, but I think you can make the argument that Paris Campbell is a better ad than Kaderi's Tony just because he's a more full-time player. You know, Tony to me is more of a longer term thing. But again, I still want to roster Tony just in case, you know, things really click and they start to use them and put them on the field on 80% of their snaps or something like that because he is leading the NFL in his two game sample. He does have the best fantasy points per target rate. You know, in the league, it's a small, small sample, but it's still, he's been that good per target. Kaderi is Tony. So, you know, if he does get more work, obviously that's a good thing, but I am definitely leading Christian Watson here. Yeah, I mean, in eight targets when the Packers only threw the ball 20 times, that game is absurd. Like that 40% target show, that's just about half of that team's throw under in that game. Henry with another Watson question, but this time wondering who he should drop. So wanting to drop a player to pick up Christian Watson and or Nico Collins, the players he's considering are Curtis Samuel, Traylon Berks and Jarvis Landry. Was one of those, if any, would you be dropping to pick up these guys? I think that I would rank them in terms of droppableness. I would go Jarvis Landry, Traylon Berks, Curtis Samuel. You know, I don't mind Berks. I had him as an ad this week, but it is not a conducive offense for pass catchers. It's just not the best place to be. Jarvis Landry, 21% target share this past week. He should have a role, but I think it's a low ceiling role. And then Curtis Samuel, we've seen him be pretty relevant this season. I wouldn't necessarily want to drop him, but I would probably, I would definitely take Christian Watson over all three of those guys. I think you can make the argument that Nico Collins is better than Traylon. I might just go Traylon just for the upside and the funness of his profile and all that kind of stuff. But Nico Collins, I don't think people realize this. Nico Collins is average more receiving yards per game this year than Brandon Cooks has. I mean, Nico Collins is in a, has been doing a lot better than people realize. So I do think that he's a decent low key ad this week, but Christian Watson, just to me, way, way ahead of these guys. Yeah. We had some more questions in here. And guys, I see all these questions were prioritizing waiver wire questions today since it is Tuesday. We got to get those waiver wire questions in. If we got time, we'll hit some other ones. KJ looking at the rest of season schedules for some of these players on the waiver wire wanted to know which one has the best schedule moving forward. Cadarius, Tony, Paris Campbell, Christian Watson, or Darius Slayton. And is that affecting which one you want on your fantasy teams? JJ? It doesn't, you know, schedule is something that I consider. And I talk about on my show a good bit, but it's, it's sort of like a secondary thing. I can tell you right now. So if we, if we want to look at the Colts, the Colts right now at wide receiver, rest of season have the 16th best schedule. So very, very average. Kansas City rest of season has the second toughest schedule for wide receivers. So that's something to, to at least keep in mind. Christian Watson, I know is very average because I looked at that for my, for my column this week. I think that's it. Is it the Darius Slayton too? So you got the Giants. The Giants are... They still got the Eagles twice, right? Yeah. The Giants are still 23rd. So they have a favorable schedule. So yeah. I mean, like I, schedule matters, but you're, you're, you're much more, you should be looking more at usage and offensive environment and all that kind of stuff first before you get into the schedule stuff. Aravila wants to know Van Jefferson or Julio Jones to pick up off the wave of wire. Which one of these players would you be prioritizing? I mean, I, I... Can I say neither? You can say neither. Yeah. I mean, I'm just not, I guess, I guess Van because of the Cooper Cup injury, I guess, but I'm not, I mean, I'm not really that into either. No interest in Julio touchdown, Jones, the first player to score an NFL touchdown in Germany. That's true. I didn't even think about that. That's true. Good for him though. He, you know, he deserves that. He deserves that accolade for everything that he's done throughout his career. Right. He got that one in the bag for Mr. Julio Jones. Swave, you wanted to know Tony or Pittman rest of season. So Michael Pittman or Cadarius Tony rest of season? Yeah, I'm going Pittman there. Just a very stable target share. Matt Ryan being back is good for that offense in general. Good for Pittman.  You know, he's just kind of in that range. Whereas Tony, I don't think would get to that ceiling necessarily this season. He might in a given week or what have you, but I'm going to go. I'm going to go Michael Pittman. Yeah, you just got to adjust your Pittman expectations. He's no longer a wide receiver, one wide receiver, two on that line. He's a two, three on that line instead. Eric, and you're out of question for us and also said, by the way, JJ, love your podcast and his son loves listening to it on their drive to school, especially with your great intro sound effects. Well, Eric's question was, is it time to drop Wondale Robinson and go for Slaton or completely stay away from the Giants wide receivers?  He ran the most routes for the first time this season, this past week. I think that he's talented. You know, I don't mind Slaton as sort of a dart, but I just, you know, he's not someone that's like going to get me super, super excited, but neither guy am I super, super high on at this point moving forward. I was excited for Wondale. I thought there was a chance that he could really elevate himself this year. And he looks awesome when he has the ball in his hands, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. And then Slaton, maybe it's just me like holding, like it, well, if Wondale can't do it, no one can. And so I'm not adding Slaton, but I just don't have the trust that he's going to have that work rest of the year. Come here now. We'll hit this one more question. This one's a little bit more start set, but would you be throwing in Dak Prescott or Jalen Hurts? If these are your two quarterbacks, JJ, Dak, who do the Cowboys have this week? If I'm remembering correctly, they've got the Cowboys are playing the Vikings this week. And then we have the Eagles have a matchup again. The Colts this week. So you're starting Jalen Hurts against the Colts or you're rolling on Dak against the Vikings? I'll probably have him in a similar tier, but I'm going to go with Hurts. You know, the thing with Hurts, though, that's a little bit scary. He's not running nearly as much as he was at the beginning of the season. No Dallas Goddard, of course, but I'm still probably going to lean Hurts even or sorry, I don't know why Hurts in that matchup. As am I. Guys, I want to thank everyone who came in and asked your questions today. Really appreciate you guys coming in. We can't do this show without the questions that you guys provide us. We will be back next Tuesday answering more of your waiver wire questions. But until then, enjoy week 11. Good luck in your matchups. And we'll see you guys then. Adios, everyone.