Hello, and welcome to everyone if up 250 is super chat catcher portion one part one issue one section one That doesn't actually mean it's gonna be covering all of the first part It just means the first part of covering all of the superchats that came in in 250 Who knows how many will get done? Well, we'll we'll we'll just get going. You know, there's no reason not to right just get get all these matches tackle away Fine of the first one that came in at least according to the ones I've got here is more the title is wrong You flimber switch it was true. I Called it the fourth anniversary. I switched it like in the first few minutes. It's like whoops And now we know forever about your mistake. It was already known. It was too late It's one of things my PR guys had to get in front of it. So, you know, I did I Don't know anymore, but it's happened. It's part of history and that that's the true the true true Which I think is a cloud atlas quote nobody sold out film. I only know it comes a brick and morty Fair enough That's how I used to experience film a lot of the time. I had the same was through Simpson. So Yeah This evap is brought to you by rage shadow legends. And the best thing is it's free to play Congrats on 250 episodes. You massive high rags. Oh, yo, thanks. Just for the sake of it This is absolutely not brought Legends legends add on the e-fap. I promise you as a technical error And you wonder if someone raid benefit from like the memes as well, you know, I I surely did I assume so. I don't see why they wouldn't Why is everyone bald and old on this day and not banning everyone in chat We try to ban every bald and old person you can't get to them all, you know, everyone eventually gets there, you know We'll keep it up. We'll do what we can So that's half a decade listening to you utter massives. Thanks for the show Y'all have helped keep my spirits up through some Tizmy times molly gay fringy a bald high rags. Who's a good boy? Hello Well, good to hear it. Yeah, thank you Thanks Congrats on five years lads been following you since the rise of Skywalker in 2019 Hopefully you keep busy with the upcoming media drought cheers and high rags Hey, is it was our media drought because if there was We don't experience it as much as other people do because apparently not we We do media breakdowns as a tangent from video coverage So every time there's a media drought. We're just doing video coverage. You know what I mean like We don't really see it or hear it. But but like yes I guess there's a film drought But it feels like the video game the one month that there weren't many video game releases is already over And we've got TV for now, Ahsoka But yes, it has been noted there is a There's a little lack of it This is gonna come up more as the years go on and it's funny because for us just me remember One of the top voted things in that questionnaire was seeing more positive media breakdowns We can go back and jump into some classics here and there free fab episodes. Why not? Mm-hmm. I guess what I'm saying is I got no concerns about a not having new movies to break down. We'll be fooling Especially on the video making front to anything time could just pause for a sec. Give me give me a minute, you know, I Don't think I'll be able to catch you live sad face. Well There's always the re-uploads. No worries. I predict a Shapiro video being covered. Let's see. No, no Ben You're wrong.  They said great video Hey, well, how did they know? Yeah, because they were right. It's amazing You very much a course for gifted memberships some people dropping in like fifties and stuff Very kind I did some math yesterday and the dawn would be roughly 65 assuming he's still live in the MCU Really? Maybe. Oh, yeah, cuz he was yeah, it's was set in the 90s, of course Well, it's okay. If we get the same act back.  He's a scroll, but one of the good scrolls Yeah, Mola you're bald. It's true Figured it out. Um, I think Yeah, I think it's important to I'm bald and mold I don't know what it means to and balding If you're already bald and then you're losing even more hair. That's just it starts It gets your skin starts to fall off or something. I don't really know Is there such a thing as being bold without being, you know angry at the same time? Can you be happy and ball? No, this is possible not to be mauled as you must be mauled if you're bald you're mauled, you know the rules Congratulations on 250 episodes. Hope you all had a great nap my question for you Will you cover older animated shows for example emh avengers TMNT 2003 or older greetings from Serbia? Well, hi, I don't I guess it's not being ruled out But I don't think it'll probably come up, but maybe I don't know I suppose it's possible if we get the Desire to if we went from what is one of the biggest examples of a classic animated show that we adore and would we cover it? It would be Simpsons and it's like and will we think maybe I Not sure what covers would look like but that would be that would be something It's a lot of content. Yeah, so I don't know we'll put it on the maybe pile Hello, I'm gay actor Michael Douglas with big news Lizzo is playing a Marble in in the upcoming Zelda movie and she's very excited. Also. She's fat. Oh My goodness, that's true A fact that everyone's much more comfortable with sharing now that she's been found out to be mean to her employees, right? Interesting interesting how that works interesting Mr. Wise guy was here on this day also high rags Any second Leave them wanting more Here we go been watching since year one congrats on five here's to five more Well, yeah, I imagine so I imagine the 10 year anniversary will be probably pretty crazy I'll have to invite like a clown or something make noises throughout it Sitting there on the e-fap cast just like honking his horn and stuff It's just feel like how did we go for 10 years?  Oh, hello They're well and adieu to you fair fleamish massives they're well and adieu to you massives of fleam jaws for e-fap movies Maybe but I don't know. I'll just be sitting there liking it That's one of those lower lower sort of expected ones, but not an impossibility In fact, I think if we did George it probably in the way we did Jurassic Park rather than any fun movies Probably I just feel like it's one of those movies that doesn't have the pacing that owes itself well to an e-fap movies But I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm wrong. It's hard to say Happy 250 evap.  Well, thank you gay actor Michael Douglas Happy fifth. Thank you very much. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Congrats on 250 episodes. Hi rags Hello Final Fantasy 16 is the first modern Final Fantasy game. I think if I would actually like I could easily see You guys giving it at least a six a six plus ten equals 16.  I'm gay actor Michael Douglas. Oh, thank you Would you recommend it to myself and the ragu? I'm not so sure about that maybe Yeah, I'm not sure maybe Right. Well, yeah Congrats on the five years time flies when you're having fun. Here's to another five and beyond also. Hi rags Hello And the next one congrats on five years guys. Don't go bold on us now also. Hi rags. Hello there We show I don't make sure I don't do that. No, I Especially don't want to go bald. I'll buy a buy a wig just to make sure if I do truly go bold I'll I'll be able to pretend as though I'm not well, maybe a beanie good idea that works Oh, yeah, you could put a beanie on what color would your beanie be? hair colored Hair colored like a brown or black or maybe a reddish Hello the purple sir very common hair color actually Very strong very Five more years Yeah, true sparkling water is bad for your teeth as a gay actor named Michael Douglas taking care of my teeth is very important Is sparkling water bad for your teeth? I don't know is it I Is it I did this sparkling water sugar or anything in it? It does doesn't it I thought it was just carbonated water is sparkling water just or is there you Okay, now I don't know I don't have the answers to these questions nor do I Think we could just trust gay actor Michael Douglas He seems like the trust worthy fellow Congrats on 250. Thank you for hours of entertainment. No problem Thanks Wonder if Tom Cruise knows that the Doom games got their name from that one scene from the color of money where he says Doom I Had no idea that was a case Early and gay true We did start early it was crazy Hello mubeslington what are your thoughts on the Brendan Fraser mummy films and will there be an e-fap movies on it?  It's It's got the sequelitis. It's definitely just trying to do the first one again because it knows it works And then the third one was an abomination But that's okay Because I would still rather another one.  It's like yeah do another one let Brendan in then you're like wait, maybe not actually maybe don't maybe just Maybe stop. Yeah Maybe it's time to stop Because I know that he probably willing to and he probably do a good job, but maybe if you have the right people, you know maybe Maybe you have to Edgar right that could be cool That could be interesting. I never I've never considered that as a as an idea Lemon character and baby lemon blowing a party horn while marching. I guess it's like a sticker. Thank you It's like that they have such straightforward explanations of a hi rags Hello, I was wondering if any of you guys have played Baldur's Gate 3. If so, what is your opinion on it? I? Have not played it yet. No, I plan to but I have not played it yet nor have I likewise haven't played it Time for y'all to defenestrate yourselves why I wouldn't one I would not want to do that I don't run a stream while defenestrated You'll fucked up. Hi. I'm gay actor Michael Douglas with one very important question. You got a smoke I'm afraid I don't have a smoke. I don't smoke. I'm not a smoker The lighter though Like half of it. Yeah, why do you carry a lighter? Why wouldn't I I need I I believe it is symbolic of the moving of Mankind from the animal kingdom the creation and utilization of fire and that is therefore a reason for me to have it As a reminder, you know of the catalyst for our entire civilization Yes, I need to be reminded that to maintain my role upon this existence. I must use tools I must create You get into that watch together watch together goes on the internet you go into the internet sharks on the internet our shark Jaws eFap That's uh, it's not a great connection. Hmm. I Said it's a bit not smooth really. Yeah, the one keeper. I think I got it Mola free rags you can spy or against me. Happy fifth anniversary guys level your videos to another five. Oh Thank you very much. I'm glad that you like them no conspiring just video making Yeah, happy fifth anniversary. I'm heading to work to so see you guys in like ten hours and we would have been live Yes, even ten hours later even two ten hours later Love you guys especially you Mola. Oh and they put a little heart. Oh How about that? Happy five-year anniversary to eFap may the long be with you all hosts guests and chat They go a little hot as well. Nice. Oh nice And I didn't really have an answer but now I'm thinking yeah, I think I'm black I don't think that's the quote And it says that was me black actor Mike ebonics from my movie John black. I've never seen that I've seen John work though Michael e Michael ebonics What are the east ends for? No, it was the surname is ebonics Michael Mike. Oh, okay. Oh, okay Well, I guess that makes the joke smoother doesn't it this one says let's go And go we did Better not jib us this year.  He's not currently in the best position to be a Job it on a stream and doing those sorts of things, but the moment he is I'm sure we'll grab him right back and He'll he'll regale us When asked if I would star in John black 5 I said only if I get to die I Guess that's that there's a couple references going on there. I understand I follow An e-fap anniversary Jim Stirling time. Yeah, we managed to maintain it. This is the weirdest of traditions But uh, it's five in a row now I think the year that we don't start with Jim Stirling nobody would be that annoyed But they will be annoyed at the fact that it feels like a tradition has changed like right because the videos themselves nobody's liked but Hi rags Hi good to have another anniversary with everyone Yes, it is Hey long man Fringy rags Moodle Theo and all you massives congrats on 250 episodes and five years of Fappage Here's to 1.2 billion more Well, we'll try for a billion 1.2 billion. I mean it's probably pushing it at that point 2 billion It is 100 years he found That's another 200 million So, yeah Once we get to the old years it's not not as feasible Yeah, makes sense The way Fringy says boy boy boy at the end of streams reminds me of Liz on the answering machine in Shaun of the Dead Oh when she's like All right, I guess when I do say goodbye over and over. Yeah, there was that There you go to the uninitiated Chinese people David Blaine must sound like a smart guy based on his name alone I don't know much about David Blaine He's a magic person David Blaine Oh All right a joke that I don't agree with but I understand oh I get it Stereotypes China knows Chinese as nationality, which means oh nationalism. Yeah, that's okay Like all the correct words in a row. That's right. How about the n-word is a bunny He just keeps saying it and saying it and saying it That will powers him I'm gay actor Michael Douglas and I love See I see a name that I don't know and then I'm like wait am I about to say something by accident What is it futonari? It's Nick and then the surname is Mullen You know, I mean I got like peep-o-suss on that one. I'm like yeah Nick Mullen Nick Nicholas Mullen Hmm Nick Mullen More never heard you talk about late night gale thoughts. I really like slave night gales good fight It's a DLC for Dark Souls 3 Better fights Well, I mean Dark Souls 3's got a lot of good fights, right? Yeah, but he's special Also Congrats boys on this massive achievement. Love you all high rags. Hello And you're welcome Thanks for the five years of entertainment guys. No problem Indian women are trying to cancel the red dot of seven up Is that it's that real? It's funny, but well, but the problem is you never know these days didn't they you never know Yeah, didn't they cancel the one of those? What was it like the lady on a bottle of something at some point? Oh, you're talking about Angioma. That's the one Yeah, they got rid of yeah, they They it was Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima Yeah, they got rid of those beloved brands and they removed the Faces because they were black people It's offensive or something.  So it's just it's just a lake So no more representation for you. So that's that that lovely American Indian lady is no longer The brand name of a famous brand of margarine spread and butter purveyor. So That was a great.  This just says Fringy is wrong Ooh Frank, you're getting called out. What do you have to say in your defense? I don't know. I don't know what I've done wrong doesn't even think of anything. You must really be wrong then. Yeah Happy anniversary Massives. I'm coincidentally drinking and golfing today. So I'll shotgun one for you beautiful interlecutals. Oh, well, thank you Have fun with your golfing. I guess it's already done. So I hope you had fun with it I stayed up for like 52 hours for the second anniversary because it was during the work week. Jeez The 52 I draw the line a lot earlier than that I don't think I'd be able to do 52. Yeah, I guess said it was something like 35 would have been As far as I got on was that second anniversary or first anniversary? me There's 29 hours, but then there's the breaks and you know to set up on the after book as well Also fake fans Sabina's and rebels not Clone Wars.  I wish I could get more on these guys Oh The Clone Wars was fun as a kid crushed when it was canceled, but had some fond memories ever seen Tata Kowsky's 2003 version quite fun. I Do hear that is the best of the of that sort. Oh Sweet fat crispy critters another big old year has flown by if I was truly becoming grained in my life And I wouldn't have it any other way praise to the dawn. Yeah bunch of massives Praise to the dawn. Absolutely. He is praiseworthy Yeah, glad to entertain of course Thanks for the years of great service continue the long we shall I Was there long man. I was there for the green milk and the rhino milk. I was there to see the incel clown movie I was there when Gimli wanted Frodo dead The in-self clown movie that was a whole thing we got through Yeah, and the and the Ghibli wanting Frodo and Sab dead thing.  Here's to the five years of long and Tism and five more cheers lads Here's to you Thank you very much. Happy 250 fat. Thanks so much for all the laughs and analysis. Here's to another year That's it go and we'll hit the ground running got plenty of stuff to talk about already If organized chaos would have fight Gollum from Lord of Ring Gollum who would win and why is it Gollum? I mean Gollum's already killed people. I don't think organized kids are prepared for that Yeah, Gollum's Gollum's vicious man. Gollum's a killer. Getcha.  Maybe he just loves killing Maybe they should make a game about that What kind of game like of him killing yeah him like strangling orcs not ones with helmets, of course But yeah, like because if you are a helmet your throat is protected Necessarily Because that's what helmets do they protect your throat and there are two separate types of cuts these where he straggles an oak with a helmet How come What what they would they probably I guess I'm just thinking about it just a little bit Maybe they should make it more of like a stealth game Maybe a platformer not a not like a game where he's fighting people right because he's not really He's not really a fighter. You know, it's okay. It's a video game.  I wouldn't be prejudiced and keep him out Well, like he's a guest fighter and super smash brothers or something fucking hell What would it be It would it would be funny if they made it so he just strangles them and they die because we'd all be like they just do the thing with Like in the opening of return of the king and make it nice and ominous as well I suppose yeah, if they really nailed it as a reference we probably like it But it's if it's mobile combat or something we'd be like I kind of hope for a little more than that but okay Yeah, it's a joke character who probably strangles them and then starts like to tear at this stomach and eat their intestines or something It's like that feels like a bit too much overlap with Molina, you know, yeah, but we'll have Lord the Rings music in the background It's just like happy Shia music Ah Hey, Wombo seen Harman quest Dan Harmon is ex-wife playing D&D with different celebrities and it all gets animated high-fringy Hey, I haven't seen that actually I saw one or two episodes Hmm I was gonna get the vinyls, but Trump got merge of his mugshot. I'm so sorry happy anniversary and Starfield being bug-free a pigs flying Yeah Well, wait, yeah, it is maybe is it I don't know yeah, it is by the time by the time this is out It will be probably I think definitely. Yeah, I Haven't been following it. I have I only only know what I'm told the early release for people who pre-order because that's that's what the industry is now you Get to play games early when you pre-order them. Yeah, and then it has its proper release Happy 250 mohler doggo and frogo in German. What was this year's worst take my money? I was on XQC on copyright, but Sterling might surprise us um Worst take of the year that's something that we'll probably figure out on the New Year's episode where we just start scrolling through the history of the year but I know I think Once slipped to the cracks YMS saying that the God of War Ragnarok music was bad. Yeah, we never got to talk about that So if we had quite a few subjects to go through at the time I Do think the XQC one is gonna be pretty hard to beat like the overall of I should be allowed to steal your content And if you complain about it, I'll you know, I'll stop Just it's a pretty fundamentally awful system That's only probably gonna get worse Because you know when you have a take like I don't know You should always have your character Directly related to the villain or some kind of writing advice like that I don't see those takes as anyone near as bad as something like I should be allowed to steal your work Well, I mean, yeah, it's there's a certain. There's a certain audacity to it. That makes it just yeah, you know Happy 250 Dumbo's hopefully many many more to come also hopefully DDLC to come as well because you should play it Maybe maybe maybe you got some Hong Kong in to do before that, you know That's true because I think there might be less going on Maybe Happy oh wait congrats on five years y'all rock like camp rock looking forward to fapping for years to come Oh, yeah, no reason to slow down now Love I'm aller rags and free happy five years e-fap. You are my favorite podcast looking forward to another five years Love the profile pick rags. Oh, thank you very much. I'm glad that you like it. It is In dishonor of blue beetle, can you guys release e-fap movies mask of Zorro so we can see an actual cool Hispanic superhero congrats on 250 You may just get that eventually it might happen, but I make no promises E-fap stands for eloquently formidable attentive popcast for me today Congrats lovely Ewoks for five years of racist and sexist banter. Please clap Jeb Bush Please clap. It's crazy. Yeah, Jeb Bush still watching our podcast and clapping whenever we start them up and finish I did A febby Sibiris a fibrous Fibrous. All right. Yeah. Why not? I you guys remember Furby. Mm-hmm. My sister loved her Furby You remember furbies. Uh, yeah, that was the toy, right? Yeah Uh, yeah, I guess I remember that it was a thing that existed. Yeah fair Happy five years found e-fap this year and started the catch-up race 183 down congrats and thanks for all the entertainment also high rags fringles and wombo Hello You know for every fat we make the idea that someone's like, all right, I'm gonna go back. It's like jeez Yeah, it'll take a while. It's five years. Uh, I think we do we semi recently like go over Actually, what is the count on e-fap? How long does it take to watch everything Total runtime as of mini 107 is 106 days So it'll keep you busy get to the point where you won't be able to You know, it won't be possible Well, yes, um, but you know, you can always times to it That's true. I don't help Down by like 50 days.  Yeah, your suffering is only longer Finally a jim sterling e-fap this shall be glorious What's the thing those are the easiest ones to find because they're the first video on every anniversary Straight forward so many great gaming takes, you know, yeah, he never disappoints Congrats on 250 you massive. Thanks for all the hours of entertainment and hilarious insights Kind regards from a proud member of the brood high rags Hello Thank you. Thank you. Absolutely. I will never again get a boner Oh Damn. Oh, sorry At least it would be more productive I suppose so. Oh, yes the productive chest.  I guess it could be get rid of it. I don't know get it off Get rid of it get it off it It might be yeah, I'm not sure Yeah, I I'm not sure happy 250 I thought I was the only person losing his mind at modern media until I found you guys at around 100 stay massive high rags Hello, oh, there's lots of people out there who are not quite happy with the state of Uh modern media, but hey, it's all right I feel like there is a uh a great amount of discontent right now Yeah, and you know, it just feels like if there were enough Great, uh things coming out all in a row and stuff, uh people wouldn't quite be so Looking for answers sort of thing, you know Well, because I was I was just thinking I was thinking about how I don't feel like there's Being this sort of feeling ever before and then I thought oh, yeah But the internet's made it more abundant that that's the case But then I thought now it's still worse now though I mean the internet hasn't only been like it has It's it's recent relative to like human history, but at the same time You know, we've we've been on the internet for a long time and 20 years at this point and I don't yeah I don't recall in the light 2000s a general feeling a man tv sucks Like the opposite was the case everybody was a lot of people would pick and I think it'd be fair It's like 2018 onward is where it started to feel like wait a minute. Why is everything so shit?   Well, yeah, and naturally people like how did you predict that?  Thanks for five years of legendary content. EFAP has absolutely changed my life Hopefully a channel of my own will one day come of all the inspiration the many more glorious years of EFAP and friends Well, thank you very much for letting us know And best of luck if you do intend to make a channel. I know I've been trying to help someone recently With launching a channel who I think was inspired by us as well.  It's just cool to know the generations to keep on moving Who knows who those two have inspired already, you know Yeah Um, hi rags and lads lost my job this week So can't gift too much, but please know I love you all dearly. Thank you for another year of pure gold I'll sorry to hear that Yeah, and you know, you'll get back on your feet in no time. I'm sure and never worry about um Monetary support, especially when you need to take care of yourself Uh, the fact that you're showing up at all is is fun for us. So Uh, best of luck sir. Thank you very much Uh happy anniversary massive here's to another 250 Of course I don't see why it wouldn't happen. So yeah, all right, I don't see why it wouldn't happen Oh, this is a question for me and fringy the um Rags if you want to just tune out of that's it will will be as vague as we can But okay the question is um Yeah, just mute for literally 30 seconds and we'll be done with it All right, I'll just move my headset. So There you go. Okay. Uh, the question is fred or alleria um, uh What like in terms of who I think is better Well to be as fast as I can for the sake of rags, uh, if you know, which do I prefer it's alleria? Which do I think is the better character like in terms of writing? They're both pretty strong in terms of their start and end points and then fred is obviously a much more Enduring human character, but uh, I find alleria infinitely impressive and I enjoy the hell out of her and I wish we could have had more You know, that's not in a different medium I think what I'd say is that given that alleria was only in the show for what seven eight episodes It's kind of remarkable how much work was done for that character in that amount of time I think it's yeah the potential in that character is pretty uh I'm pretty crazy. She is awesome. The only reason she doesn't top like character pick is because she's against like impossibly well written characters That's a fred which I'm back. Hello Development so yeah, but both great characters But I probably prefer alleria In terms of potential and what we got in that time Yes, now with ranks back we'll carry on. Thanks. Yeah, that's right. All right Thanks for the years of entertainment boys No problemo Boy lads and toony boy in the future toony boy Toony boy I'm on efap 95 by this point assuming. I don't say this in the future. I hope you're all splentiful as I am Oh, I think it was this this was messed was sent by toony boy and he's saying hi to himself in the future very well It'll take him another 150 episodes ish to get to that message That's uh, yeah, it's like he can he already knows he'll be listening to this Possibly like a year later. Who knows Uh, hi everyone. I want to say thanks for all you do you guys have inspired me to work on my own video essay This podcast has been invaluable in that I would never be doing this without uh, you all from the bottom of my heart Thank you. Happy 250 Well, thank you for letting us know we always like to know the effect we have if certainly in a positive said so Uh, best of luck, of course keep at it and uh, thank you. Thank you very much Congrats on reaching half a decade of efap. I've been around since the trost coverage and binged all of efap since then Love y'all and this community um, well, yeah, thank you very much and The uh, the rise of skywalk a episode is still our most viewed efap episode That was a phenomenon of the ages. I still remember that efap.  Oh god, jim. What did you do to yourself? Ah my eyes? uh, jim has a lot of aesthetic choices that are um Yeah, particular and You know, whatever like at least the the visuals like The game and stuff aren't like super deep fried. Uh movie bobs visuals can be even more annoying than that Movie bobs sounds and looks deep fried and also his body looks like it's deep fried I think he's a guy if we were deep fried, but Uh, we're not him Depends on what not him He's a he's special. He's not like us. He's not like a smaller Just where we would falter he would rise As if a balloon as if filled with helium like a glorious zeppelin Maybe put a helium balloon in a deep fryer. I don't know what results are expecting here, but if you fill it with chicken Oh Yeah Just ordered all the vinyl figures of the three massives. Yep This video should be out before you run out of time on that So make sure to check them out. The three vinyl figures are still available, but they won't be for much longer Grab them. Grab them. Grab them.   That's actually the next super chat. But yeah Oh lock. Yeah, yeah Hey guys, I want to inform you that the word mold came from asman gold's chat because people laugh at him for raging and getting bold Okay, I know it came from twitch. I didn't know like the origin down to a stream, but yeah Dude, when do you think they're gonna start adding like internet terms to the dictionary? Well, isn't lol in there? Oh, I guess I guess beyond lol. So, you know, we'll molding or Uh, what's some other what's some other? Well, so correct me if i'm wrong. Don't animals malt Uh, animal malt. I think I know that's not the same as uh, balding But is it was that in some way uh influential to the decision to call it or was just mad and bold or nothing to do with Malt something I wondered because I think when I first heard it, I presumed it had to do with malting I thought so too. Yeah, I didn't add in bold, but uh Yeah, there is there is malting. Um Well, but how's that for an evolution? They're like let's combo bald and mad to make mold and then XUC is like, yeah, and then we'll just say bald And then we'll just say Okay I can believe that XQC the idea of just a description becoming an insult really Really caught on with XQC There's some funny about that To just state what some, you know, somebody is or a trait that they have and that's the insult in and of itself but I mean again, it's really awkward to call someone bold when they're older than you and have a better hairline than you And I guess he's not well, maybe Maybe he's actually doing it really really right because it has nothing to do with your hairline State of mind Yes, that's right. It is a state of mind One may be bold physically, but to be bold mentally to be bold in your soul is another thing altogether Well, they call it. Yeah. Well don't want that now Greetings you massives. I've been working on a little present for you But completely underestimated the amount of work it requires need a bit more time. Thank you all for the entertainment and insight Oh, well, I'm considering you very curious as to what you have cooking Could be could be you know, but thank you very much. I'm glad maybe it'll be like a jeb meme Oh, that was intense That was that was difficult to believe It's one for the books the history books How I found efap a terrible movie known as sw ros was released Work colleague recommended me to check out some guy named mohler Uh, where I've found very detailed breakdown and great podcast and later. I found fnt What's sw ros? Oh rise of skywalker Okay, because I've never seen it referred to as ross, but it's like, oh, yeah Um Yeah, I guess is the thing you think about But yeah, I mean, well glad to know that people Recommend in the breakdowns and stuff and that yeah, uh, a lot of people End up in the in the spheres in general They find one and then the rest How much you perform so good stuff make sense Love the show. Please make efap on one punch, man I asked for it about a year ago and you guys have mentioned it recently rags will love it rags would love it Uh, I hear it's good. I hear it's very good As for an efap on it, I wonder Hmm Not an impossibility. I'm not sure Exactly when away we would do something like it or how it looked, but you know what I'm on board of the ideal except on board Lockballs, of course Yes, brother wanted to show my support. Thank you all for your work and your endless memes fringy Can I have some goo for the scientific purposes? interesting It's okay to ask but no All right. Well, there you go Here is tamala man of the long the first host of efap also to wall former host of efap. May he be well wherever he is Uh, yeah, I think he's doing. I okay Hello mubler fring gold and of course ragizmo happy halloween and efap day Not quite in happy halloween territory, but I appreciate it almost Um, we're getting there every day brings us closer to halloween time. I'll get in there Isn't that exciting long man's report august 26 2023 five years five long years That's how long it took us to reach efap 250 That's a that's a reference Do you know what it is? Uh, is it halo wars? Oh, yeah, there you go. Yep Thanks for all the entertainment and congrats to the efap overlords I hope this year can produce a villain on the level of lord of ring golem You No lord of ring golems are very dear friend. Yeah, it's brought us so much joy We appreciate it Uh, this one just has a heart. Thank you very much Absolutely. Oh, no the heart killed by message and I said happy anniversary legends and high moorla high rags high fringy Oh, it does do that.   It's like, oh, thanks It's done it several times.  I'm 20 now to say the least If I was had a major impact on my critical thinking and work ethic. Thank you for being such an inspiration Oh god It is kind of crazy, isn't it? 15 to 20 are growing up Guggen and I 15 to 20 is hugely formative Yeah Jam a man of fortune and jay must seek my fortune. Thank you for getting me through my work shifts Absolutely Jam a man it would never not be funny Jam a man of fortune He said it and then he was just carried on he didn't recognize that he'd been something profoundly retarded It's so funny because there's so many layers because one of the ones I would say is like Whatever you start up a game or a movie and there's a quote the last thing I'll ever expect is the word jam to be in there Why would you why would uncharted four begin with the word jam? Why would it begin? I'm kind of thinking about it Jam about a fortune. What kind of a story? A quote does the first one start with peanut butter and then the second one starts with What's another what's another honey? No, not mayor. Never mayor. Uh, honey, you know I mean honey I can buy uh, isn't more quotes than jam Jam jam is a funny word, isn't it? Yes In a way that isn't the case for like butter or honey or yeah Peanut butter. Well peanut butter and butter. You know, you got the idea jam a man of fortune and jay must seek my fortune All right lads have y'all ever played black ops zombies and if so, what is your favorite map? I'm all uh Uh, I was never really a fan of uh I was never really a fan of Zombies uh call of duty zombies I was an og fan. I loved it in world at war the most and I love shinonuma. Who's my favorite map? I uh, I was never super big into it But uh, what was the name of the just that that original map in world at war? Knocked her on totem. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I love yeah. I like that one I didn't play much zombies. Is it kino to totem is the Yeah, that was the one in black ops. I like that one as well Um, that's good. Yeah I like the black ops zombies. I think black ops 2 is where I started to fall off I was like, uh, I don't like this anymore. I feel like they've Crazy, yeah, I think uh, I'm pretty sure modern warfare 3 is going to have zombies in actually because Modern warfare 3 is clearly a game that's being scrambled together Was clearly unplanned Because sledgehammer's making modern warfare 3 instead of infinity ward, which already is strange Uh, and sledgehammer made vanguard and that was only two years ago. So this game's had probably two years of development And treyark is making the zombies mode for it So it's just a bunch of studios coming together to get this thing out the door in time For the holiday season, I guess Yeah, I don't know. It just Not a great impression Oh my god, so we really do have always start with this fat useless goblin twat. Oh my goodness Such anger. Oh my goodness. You should Purge yourself of those negative emotions Yeah Yeah, calm down. So this is a one of five. So Oh, all right. All right, I can get them together Happy anniversary massives. I missed the last stream unfortunately So I'll send in a couple extras this stream first I'd like to thank you guys for all the amazing content over the years My first efap was one three four then one three five and thoroughly enjoyed them I started catching up on all the efap shortly after 150 which I caught some of live and i'm very close to having watched all of them Uh, and I couldn't be happier with the laughs and fantastic discussions over the just the two years I've been a fan of you guys You've had a huge impact on my critical thinking both when it comes to stories and every other aspect of my life I may very well begin making videos at some point and my passion for good stories and video making Is because of you guys Thanks again for so much of all the awesome discussions laughs debates and just incredible content over the years Uh, that have been and the years to come happy fucking efap 250 high rag mube and frong Hello, hi there. Thank you. Thank you very much. I'm really glad that you know, we've helped to You know spur you on potentially and I'm glad you've enjoyed the content We've made sounds like we've had a good impact there and what more can we ask for? Jam I wish for more jam You wish for more jam. I wish for more jam. Bring me the jam. Where is the jam? Where is it? I jam a man of fortune. Okay. I need more jam more jam. I need more xc reading famous quotes We're celebrating our birthday together We'll have to catch the void once I recover from the algorithms But I had to thank you for keeping me entertained for the last five years also high rag and friends Hello, hello Uh, what do you three have to say to those who accuse you of being inconsistent with your standards? Oh god, we're only human. Okay. I always hate women I just find it funny that I don't understand that as a question. How do you respond to being wrong occasionally? I mean, yeah, that's pretty. I don't mind being wrong occasionally or biased The whole aspect of what we do is to try and say to work on avoiding that Yeah, especially can it's not it's not like it's you you can never be perfect on that It's so like we talking about all the time and yet like it's it's not really understood I don't think sometimes or so if we if we have to watch three films one's a sci-fi horror One's an action adventure and one's a romantic comedy. I immediately have the feeling I want to watch the sci-fi horror first and then the action adventure and then I guess I'll watch the romantic comedy It's like that's already unfair to the Because you should be well ideally 100 complete and other like impartiality to all of them But I mean human's gonna human, you know Yeah, I I understand myself on that front and I make mistakes. That's totally fine. I don't mind at all It's uh, so yeah, I guess on the on the point of how do you feel that someone has pointed out? You're not fully consistent. I'd be like, yep Makes sense I mean I I don't I don't know what it means I don't know what it means to be 100 consistent. I don't I don't even know how someone achieves that But you know what we try to stitch the standards. We try.  I cannot believe this train has been rolling for five years I appreciate the hard work you each do including guests and you've been inspiring me to seek excellence in all that I do Here's to five more Well, thanks to here and yes five more indeed and then 10 more and then 20 more Oh my god, and then I'm not sure because I don't know how old I'm gonna be that Ah, yes, here we go again another year of pausing every frame while being unrepentant long man Thank you for the continued entertainment and godspeed Thank you Thank you very much Um So has mr. Dark turned into a turbo schizo or has he always been like this and I just missed it Anyway abolish gay actors and michaels Uh, mr. Dark is the one that's gave my actor michael douglas. I don't know. Is something new that he's doing and and you know what?   I watched a movie called eternal sunshine of the spotless mind for the first time a couple days ago And I absolutely adore it. Have you guys seen it? If so, what do you think? I have seen it and it's very good What a coinkie think I actually watched it with fringy about a week ago or so two weeks or yeah something like that And yes, it's it's a very good movie the pretty top tier It's one of those movies. It's very difficult to find a flaw in and it makes its points very well points that I basically completely agree with about um the nature of how we remember Experiencing life and all that and what we would do if we had the power to edit it The consequences of that if not, I'd highly recommend it also little nightmiz three had a trailer recently. It's going To have co-op and it looks pretty sweet play little nightmiz and high mubes Fringold and of course the best dog o rags Oh, thank you. Hello Yeah, I mean a lot of people have been asking lately to me to play Little nightmiz games. They're on switch, right? Are they on anything else? I have no idea. I don't know anything about it. In any case, uh, they Reminded me of limbo like I said before but uh You know more graphically impressive I suppose or less stylistic or more stylistic maybe equally stylistic Don't know how I'd put it and didn't play much of it, but uh yeah, maybe Happy anniversary and mary mary effapary to all Love you. Oh Thank you very much Congrats on 250 and thanks for being one of the few podcasts that care more about writing your characters and not the woke Well, I mean I've been You know trying to break down films as as uh rags are pretty likely have as well Well before we even stepped onto the internet, you know and The woke wasn't a thing back then So it's just really wasn't So when I watch, you know, like alien 3 and I hate it and then me and my dad talked about it.  And we'll always be there to point her out Which diet is worse e-faps media diet or gyms actual diet tough call Oh us because we only watch marvel movies.  That's that's all I'm watching Maybe an indiana jones movie as well Happy anniversary bitches more to stop being an a hole in play pray 2017 I'll get around to it eventually. I swear So many games I gotta play There are too many games and not enough time I worked on some of the helmet animations in quantumania. If you don't like them, you're going down a path I can't follow you're breaking my heart. Oh, no Well, I'm sure you did the best you could But it's not it's it really is just like I don't the thing is is when it comes to the the results for marvel v effects Over the last few years. I don't really feel like there's any point in blaming the individual artists. It's obviously It's obviously time.  Yeah, something's gone wrong They they look really bad. It's not the vfx artist fault. It's it's just a bad arrangement Congrats on 250 guys. Have a good one big up. Thank you very much Uh, what's the crake your lovely gob shites can't stay. I'm at my sister's wedding But have a good time and brood in toxicity For the evening and night morning and afternoon hail the dawn and high raggleton bear Hello Alrighty in my opinion like that like evening night, you know morning and day. Oh, yeah Yeah, that's that's how it goes Uh, in my opinion do maternal is one of those games where once you understand how it plays it gets much better I've heard that Yeah, I wouldn't know I wasn't very I wasn't that I didn't finish it actually so I never finished it either I love the 2016 one, but I never finished to maternal Uh sarcastic you can totally make an in-depth review of a game if you only play 90% of the first 10% of it I played all of the first 10% also high rags and congrats on five years Oh, hello there.  They'll play whatever they played and then they'll say this is a review of the whole game It's like but it's not And you got to make sure people understand that as soon as you do it's chill Happy anniversary of fleams. Look forward to many more years of faps as do we Uh, congrats on 250 higher. John. You're the best Yeah, that was just trying to remember if John was on at that point. I guess he was one of the first people Going on, right? Yeah um Thank you very much the most common argument seems to be you wouldn't accept this defense for tlj Whenever you make an argument in defense of something Well, if you're talking if this is the person who's talking about the inconsistency stuff It's just like yeah, but that could be a misunderstanding on the person's part, right?  And then I said it could be anything you could head count on whatever you want And that was seen as the same kind of thing you could say for all the problems in tlj.  So while why would uh, yeah, of course You know, why did someone Make an error in judgment If someone like gets up late For a mission or whatever and it's like why I'm like, well, it could be a lot of reasons I don't know that we need to like be definitively given something I think uh, yeah, why to think about it.  It's like well, you can go ahead Kevin. It's like no There's no There's no answer that you could headcatter with that.  Uh in ragnarok versus the dog in What was the what was the comparison I'm forgetting. Oh, yeah last of us. Uh, yeah, right Hello all my e-fappers got my vinyls and I'm so glad I can watch an anniversary live started watching just after the last one I've been working through the backlog hoping to uh for another wave of plushies Oh, thank you very much for getting the vinyls Yeah, thanks. I'm sure the plushies may make a reappearance someday good chance And uh, this says hour one of 24. I believe Someone was sitting in a super chat per hour. I'm not sure they survived though As in they probably went to sleep Yeah, uh happy 250 massives watch star crash 1978 high rags I've never heard of it Hi, uh, so so one more time star crash 1978 They recommend it. I've I've never heard of just a second. Let me google that. Um, star crash 1978 airman row Margeau Gortner christopher plumber margeau Gortner javid hasselhoff's in it Not well. It's a space opera Uh, it's directed and co-written by louis gicozzi. Hmm Uh, but it doesn't seem to be rated very highly See, well, maybe it's a diamond in the rough and it's only seen as rough because it's a diamond in the rough Maybe maybe Happy anniversary everyone. You should be proud We are a little bit. I will say having a podcast that's successful for five years is not easy to do Um Obviously it's uh Frustrating and awkward on in terms of getting times good for the three of us all the time Got to make sure we get everything done. There's a Integrity of like research aspect got to make sure your top form and making the arguments and then you're looking to entertain as entertainers, so, you know, it's uh We enjoy this but at the same time it is it is work that we've now done for five years Kind of weird to look back on in it Very strange It's like when that the previous super chatter said I started watching when I was 15 now i'm 20 I just like damn our little children, you know, they're growing up and people are like it's just It's so strange you know It's a fourth that guys like Yeah It's it's interesting to think about because it doesn't feel like five years because it's just this is our job This is what we do we do it with people that we Put up with you know It's really great and so it doesn't feel like work and You know the old you know time flies when you're having fun thing is um vacation and all that Yeah Also, I will be right back in it to get a drink out of the freezer. So, um, uh, yeah, pardon me I appreciate you skipping most of gym sterling Uh, like I said the portion of the video I skipped was the I was checking out and I was just like when did they get to the arguments? Come on. Come on a lot of it was just like petty and rambly and you saw a lot of that in the section that we actually covered anyway Sterling's video is a remarkably unfocused. Yeah, it's range and uh Obviously the main reason I was really interested in covering it was how it's such a self-defeating video when it's primary issue Is that of if you wanted us as reviewers to have more integrity you'd end up getting a kind of truth you wouldn't like It's like, why would you admit that? What was our argument to make? Yeah, especially when uh, red fall, right? Oh, I played red fall and you know at first I just thought it was mediocre Then I kept playing and realized it was bad. You don't want that to happen. Do you? And this idea that it couldn't possibly go the other the way and that that It doesn't that a game couldn't improve in your estimation. This is Is definitely the case This is absolutely a consistency thing if you think the it's bad to play like an hour of a game when at 10 hours You would have loved it and so you feel like you've misrepresented it That goes both ways You should be able just as bad if you play an hour and loved it and if you played it for 10 you would have hated it At the end of the day, it's just about due diligence Yeah, it's not Like it's that simple and if you're like, I don't want to do a full review I just want to give first impressions. It's like label it as such But don't but you probably call a review because people are more inclined to watch review than a first impression. Yep The truth Keep on e fapping here's to many more years Hell, yeah Happy 250th e-fap gentlemen also high rags by the way. Have you heard about charles martiney retiring as the voice of mario? Yeah, yeah It's gonna happen at some point I guess it was but at the same time you never You can't just never anticipating it. Are you? Happy anniversary to my favorite podcast. Have a good one. You're massives. Thank you very much. Thanks Thank you for the amazing content over the years been watching since the beginning of e-fap My father recently passed away So watching your streams has helped me keep my mind distracted to keep up the amazing content and looking forward to another year of e-fap I already hear that man Yeah, uh, appreciate the kind words and uh, hope you're doing all right obviously, uh, I find the same with a lot of media is a good way to escape and uh we are in a unprecedented time of people using sort of in the internet and videos on it to feel less You know secluded I guess I suppose I'll highlights the um Feels like as uh, I guess as society We almost need to catch up and realize that people are attaching The same amount of value to the kinds of things that people are creating on youtube and on the internet as they do to You know traditional forms of art film television games books. Yeah Uh, happy fifth anniversary gents. You guys make my night shift so much easier. Keep critiquing rat good or bad and stay massive We shall Hmm happy 250 at fringy as a fellow soundtrack enjoyer. What theme do you prefer Jurassic park theme or lost world theme? Uh Why Jurassic park is pretty classic They said they prefer the lost world theme Interesting. Yeah, I prefer the Jurassic park theme. I'd have to Hear the lost world one again. I guess I don't quite remember the differences Probably interesting, isn't it Well, it could be that it could also be that it's attached to a film. I consider significantly worse that worse. Um That's possible. I I find for me that doesn't I could I could hear something in in a In a film or like a game that I definitely consider to be worse But that I still really like and remember you'd be fair. You wouldn't know Because uh, you wouldn't be able to compare to a world where that was the truth necessarily because you wouldn't know like um I don't know for sure that if I listen to the lost world soundtrack outside of the context of the film that I would prefer it or not Or notice more or not, but Obviously with meteor I love I tend to spend more time with it And thus maybe hear the tracks more and love them more. Um, I'm trying to think because there's probably times where I really loved uh soundtracks of different films, but the You know, they fall out because I just don't have as much of an An investment in them when they're not attached to something that I'm trying to think of like the What's a soundtrack from a film that I adore that is a film? I think it's crap There's not many Uh, maybe interstellar Well, that's probably the best example. Oh, I was oh, I forgot I was muted. I literally said interstellar Stella might be the prime example of uh, an excellent soundtrack for a film that sucks Yeah, I'd have to really think about it. Um That um that most like famous track from interstellar is pretty bangin portion.  Like yeah, because I wouldn't expect for Mauler to tell me it was like phenomenal Near perfect Maybe the best you know piece of art ever created because he He would know and I would expect him to know that it would go to my head and I would get over confident Even if it was true So I would expect him to kind of temper his praise and maybe even you know be a bit subdued in that area But uh, but you know just for just for the sake of friendship, you know There are some things that I think we've gone into reviewing things before where I've You know all three of us have said like oh so this thing Super means a hell of a lot to me even even with all of the criticisms. I still love it that sort of thing And uh, it's just a different version of that. Um, unless of course you're talking about people like lying or something But I don't I don't think it went that far Yeah, and I don't really know much about all that myself. So yeah, I'm not as familiar with actualized Not my wheelhouse. It's campaign and stuff, but Of course, it's pretty cool Uh, it's cool. You know that is able to do that. It's really excellent I'll make a comic one day and I'll launch it and I'll make millions. It'll be great. There'll be blackjack and hookers, too In the comic of course Of course, uh, hello to you all happy five years Y'all changed the way I now analyze media and I have discovered so many great things and understand why I hated so many things Thanks to you all Oh, you're welcome. Glad we were able to help. Yeah, absolutely Uh, that is one of the things that we kind of try to point out as another fundamental of this show It's kind of if there were many points to be made about what the what efaps point is the um, a lot of people make videos To express why they feel about a thing and they'll grasp at the first thing that comes to their mind as opposed to the thing that fits the best And so it'll be like why do I hate phase four? It's like well because none of the stories connect with each other that's why It's like is that the reason is it is it really why do I hate phase four? Oh, it's because it's too much multiverse. Oh Is that it? Why do I hate phase four too much cg focused on cg everything's not real anymore was like is that it is it though Or is it just bad? Is it just or is it written poorly? The one thing that every Writing video essayist will never Imagine having a video called the real reason the mcu is falling apart and the video is like five minutes long And you just go it's really badly written the characters get assassinated the will buildings all over the place There's barely any kinds of plots and thematically speaking it's oftentimes recommending things like through messaging that are really bad Badly written incompetence. Bye Okay I imagine the perception would be well no But if i'm not looking for things sort of beyond the scope of the works Then i'm just going to be restating the same perspective over and over and over again to which the response should be Damn if that's how you feel that you can't talk about each individual project for what it is And it's uh strengths and weaknesses. Yeah, and damn that's a you problem. I'd say because there is still It's an inventive post i'm made up in my head There's still a lot of value in being like Okay incompetence.  Remember that clip was like How do we get character for the quantum realm? What do we what do we have for design? And she says something like i've got random lines and random things here. It's kind of quantum me. I was like, oh Hmm I guess so and that's this thing you got what you paid for They they believed that the design of the quantum realm should be random stuff and you got random stuff It's it's quantum me Yep, that's cool. That's you know, why not woohoo. It's pretty exciting. Yeah On if I mean it starts from the top down, right? Like what is the what is the artist meant to do if the world itself is then Well, and the thing is the artist will be given guidelines and then they'll go from there instead of being told make something that's quantum me Be like, uh, I'm not a scientist Quantum, you know quantum think outside the scope of reality Okay, easy. Yeah, I'll do that Uh on e-fap 66 rag said star wars is dead. It's a good time to get into war hammer I took his advice and he was right. Warhammer 40k is pretty good. You should have had arch on again to talk about it Hi rags Hello, um, well, I don't know if we're gonna be talking about war hammer because I have a very casual Interesting. I'm not really a war hammer guy. I know nothing about war hammer My greatest exposure to war hammers from flash gets caught. Yeah That's about what happened Uh, p.s. Hi rags. Hello and hi rags Oh, hi Behold my awesome two-year milestone. Behold Wow who is oh my goodness I'm beholding. Uh, if you like rng playthroughs, I recommend a pixel indie game called 88 heroes published by rising star It's a goofy spoof of platformers with each playable character being a gag with different movesets and abilities Sounds interesting Uh, happy anniversary massives. Unfortunately, I can't listen as my ears are goopy right now, but I am on the mend Oh, no one likes that goopy ear. Hopefully your ears get ungumped soon. Absolutely goopy.  If any of you come up to FNQ, I would love to buy you a drink or equivalent FNQ Front north Oh, so if I go to Canada I don't know Maybe that's some of the talk about I have no idea. Yeah, I'm not sure what that is Uh, if more metal and I hadn't finished laudering golem, we would have missed out on lock balls. Yeah You better thank us for all that that effort. It was pretty painful playing that game. I will say um, but man the highlights were worth it Make sure you guys are switching between standing sitting and kneeling on your chair level you guys do last thing I hope for you is to get a blood clot from sitting too long hail waggis Oh We do uh, each of us uh, when having chats and between things try and get some walks in we you know Yeah Even if you didn't know it was healthy for you in the long term you'll feel it anyway your legs are like I want to do something Move me If I don't move in a while, um, or if I don't take a you know a walk in a while I do feel like I need to move you feel that sort of Not soreness, but it just doesn't quite feel Right.  Frog voice.  We'd all be like fine. It's something like that. Yeah Hello I just love how Mike that keeps coming back for memes to that speech. I don't know why Oh, I don't know.  He's awesome character Intro is uh, I always wondered how much they knew they were doing before they all got to it because He is a character that comes in relatively not important and then I honestly think like the performance and The role being useful for different things just like pushed him all the way up to main character Isn't this like the opposite of what they're doing with throne and isoka where you know Each of the characters and breaking bad basically had to earn their key. Yeah Yeah, when it wasn't like they were preordained to be Like lasting characters and sort of the consciousness of viewers That to earn that meanwhile, it's like throne is so important through on through now to be fair You know, I hear that those those old books are really good But in the universe it just feels like they're overcompensating big time Yeah, this is a thing that people really like we got to really run with that Mike was uh, he's like a handyman that cleans things up For gusts, right? Yeah, and I think the first episode he's even in he doesn't even get many lines at all He's just sort of around doing things and it's like that's what he does He plants the buds gets rid of them screws things in sorts out bodies or Clean zip areas bring knows who to call and it's just like yeah, he's like That's good stuff. And then uh, there's that I think that everything changes once he gives that a half measure speech to wall It's like and if it was like it was the same with soul as well that it wasn't You know soul sort of becoming a main character as well. I'm jesse right show Well, jesse is the the big one right because jesse was gonna get killed off until the writer strike But um, and it's so interesting because like a story the ebbs and flows With the actors and how well everything's gelling is I think a much better way to do it than going by whatever the audience says Or wants or says they want Yeah, because sometimes the audience doesn't quite They don't quite know what exactly it is that they are gonna get from a show and what they want from it Is it what they want or what they need? You know? Yeah I haven't gone past the tutorial there for the game sucks That could be something if the tutorials are broken, but Most of the time, yeah You gotta figure the game out It's been an honor to be here. You guys taught me how to be critical of the media I consume I can now verbalize why I like or don't like something or think that something is or isn't good because of you. Love you guys Good to hear, uh, no, obviously our primary focus is on trying to identify inconsistencies And I think it's a useful tool especially when uh, they can be pissing you off without you realizing it Yeah, um good old Plinkett said in his older videos you may not have noticed it, but your brain did your brain did. Yeah, that's great I absolutely adore the style of the thumbnail props to whoever made it. That's omega ridley Yeah, I really like these ones the ones this year. There's I love the color scheme. Yeah, I love the vibe of the 70s vintage glory Glory and yes, omega ridley is responsible for how good efap looks Not exclusively omega ridley. We've got some other artists who helped with The things that move for example and some other bits and bobs here and there, of course, but It cannot be denied omega ridley's been essentially a part of efap now for like five years and saying Thank you very much, of course Absolutely, thank you Do anyone your best read of mic omen trouts you and your pride speech with your best skeletal voice feel free to improve Improvise with curse words All right. It was perfect. Wait. Wait. I think since you got the other one, we should give this one to rags, right? He likes skeletal What's the speed? I don't know the Because I just don't I don't know it. I'll get it for you.  You would know.  I got it. There you go rags.  We had a lab.   Yeah, pretty good. Yeah, so hopefully that hopefully that satisfied the requirements Of the of the super chat. Hopefully they got their Let's just look at the previous slide as well from walter where he's like, wow, that's that's some kind of logic right there Well, yeah, Walt's got a lot of those Walt's got lots of funny that shows funny. It is great drama, but it's also a really funny show I think some people consider it a black comedy. Uh, I think because of the amount of it, right?  I think he just looked out of it.  I think it's hard. I know. Yeah, it's good to be one of the most disappointing Uh final fantasy games. Yeah Well Um, I've put almost 300 hours into final fantasy 13 final fantasy 13's ost is objectively good though. Give it a go Uh, I hear final fantasies always had good music. I like the music in 16 There you go Loom for those fleams boys sure Floom for more right Happy birthday eFap question on the quanta mania video Are we supposed to watch the whole thing or jump around looking for gotchas then accuse you of not having references? Oh that one that's the second one. Yeah, that's the one that's the one that's the one right there That's how you get them He did that He didn't say anything about gay people Drat That was funny. Yeah.   Just steal it with a smile To be fair, there is such a thing as ethical pirating.  It's just like I just don't want to pay for anything It's like okay, but like the people who worked on this who are giving you such a great experience maybe you could Pay the price of admission for the thing that they requested or had to sort out to make sure they can continue to make things It's just you know, a lot of basic stuff that comes into it. Um, which is kind of uh adjacent to the whole Trading and games thing that the money doesn't go to the place you'd want it to go And so, you know, there are ways you can get around that Sort of or at least try and pirating can be uh a sort of thing like if you Wanted the the people to get money But you can't get the money in such a way that would simultaneously get you the game you want And so you pirate the game and get them the money in a different way There's lots of complications that come with it A lot of it has to do with your ability to I guess police yourself. Yes. Um That a lot of it's up to you and your own integrity so Can't be used as an excuse for less virtuous desires More or are you going to see more of your family watch ant-man 3? Uh, you got all the best highlights a lot of it is Drunken rambling some of it. It's just us talking about you know Like life and stuff not the film because it wasn't exactly a great film as you guys know Um, and then a lot of it is just watching the film. So it's not even saying anything But I uh, I cut out all the the best and funniest things I had to send this super chat I wonder if you guys can guess where we're at now Yeah Only about two three hours in Yep Well in fact the you guys you got happy anniversary guys crashing gay pride in manchester. So I have to catch the moola upload Thank you so much for everything with a heart. Thank you And then hour two of 24 So not bad. Oh my god. Not bad at all I started listening and watching in 2019 when nothing else was enough to help me through the darkest battle with mental health I'd ever faced. Thank you for being here and saving me genuinely I'm now on the other side of my struggle and I can just enjoy the banter. All of you are super talented Congrats on the success. You deserve it. I wish you the absolute best high rags Oh, hello, and I'm that's really great to hear my dude. Yeah, I'm glad you made it out of it and uh Very very glad that we could provide any help in that regard, of course Stay strong sir, and thank you very much for letting us know Dude Used game eco sphere is a tricky topic. No car manufacturer gets money when someone buys a used car They only make money on selling new cars Is that yeah, that's a similar comparison. Yeah, it's similar. It's a similar comparison Um, obviously not everyone can buy new cars. So It's more so the economy of used games compared to the economy of you like someone buys a car They they keep it for some extent, you know, lengthy amount of time before they start selling it It's not a car is 15 20 plus grand sometimes. So yeah, like it's a used game in the economy of like GameStop could go through like five six seven people Whereas a car is probably only going to have like maybe three at most Uh owners throughout the course of its life It's it's not the same kind of economy of incentivizing you to trade it in so that they can sell a pre-owned instead of a brand new one over and over and over and over and over again But I but you know, it's it's still similar right now that that a used car None of that money's going to the original manufacturer Uh found a weird wonder of nature for you to see the brazilian penis snake everyone enjoy this actual animal that exists Hmm Brazilian penis. Oh, we'll do let us know.  So Oh That is uh, I guess that's why they called it that Is it rather a phallic? Oh goodness. It looks just like mine Just uh, it's it's a bit it's a bit smaller, but uh That poor snake Well, he has no worth saying I'm sure other snakes have told him, you know Maybe they should keep that to themselves Yeah, he's trying to live his best life He is trying to lead his best life I would say though, um Maybe it it this seems to be like the opposite problem that maybe horses have Because if you're horses and you know that the humans whenever they want to whenever they want to say that someone has a really big cock You're the animal that they refer to is You know, so It's like that's you know, that's a thing so they must enjoy that I don't think horses speak english or understand it, but Yeah It's my guess Well, I thought that it was part of the You know, well the snakes probably don't speak english either, but that was fine for the penis snakes I mean they they speak snake I didn't say they understood hubered languages I don't know about that Poor theo and everyone else having to listen to the visio assayists wax on about their sob story Hope you guys have drinks cheers long boys To be fair, I think you can make videos about such things, but why would you call it? What was the name of it again? Why you don't have to finish the game or something?  What wasn't it? It was Congrats on five years gents someone should torture theo with a essay premiere supercut lull also high rags Hello, I think we actually like gassed out theo after the uh Those three videos dying I mean that was pretty bad.  I had to beat that game. Yeah Yeah, the as theo was like Staggeringly correct.  I promise They are not any more interesting to anyone else than they are to you Well, certainly not when you're doing a controversial point about whether or not reviewers have an obligation to complete games It's like I don't I didn't come here to listen about your childhood I want to know what you have to say about that.   The world isn't about you people care about my childhood not yours Hey, like I said, there's a format you can do that I'm okay with it even on youtube But not when you've said you're gonna be talking about something like that if I said like why the mcu sucks And I say when I was growing up I was abused it'd be like wait, what the Why why I just want to know why what was wrong with the mcu bro Uh jammer man of fortune and jay must donate my fortune Chungus the wise 2023 First super chat may you all pause forever more? Thank you very much Losers always whine about their unfinished games. Louis goes home and fucks the prom queen Oh Such a good quote Is now a bit improved with lewis Oh lewis Um happy anniversary to all you lovely massives Thank you very much Absolutely Louis from crisis on infinite earths lewis Classic, yeah, it's been a while since uh Since that happened, but that would be the um Patient zero of the multiverse insanity, I guess I suppose so. Yeah, it all went wrong And there was no turning back. It was over the second it started Uh Hello every frame of pause happy 250th Hello and thank you Yeah My favorite author is cs lewis. I despise his uncle though loved his book the lie in the witch and the bandwidth Cs lewis Updated vision That's cute um Extinct animal of the day synt synthetis cirrus synthetis cirrus Uh What he looks like camel relative with a nose for slingshots Well, look at him go. That's an interesting critter. Yeah You do wonder like very interesting from like the from the head. I'll say it has an interesting head The rest of it's not that interesting. It's mostly the head is interesting You make it's like what are the all the uses for that that horn? I wonder It's like the battle cosplays Yes Precisely what it is Uh, lewis knows the secret to mario's jump son. Why don't you why can't you be more like lewis? Why sub why? Oh Hi rags. Hi frog daddy g hi wumbo.  Hello. Hi. Thanks for letting us know appreciate it and uh glad we can entertain have fun in wales Yeah, have a great time up there Uh school is where I learned not to be retarded. I think they mean retarded Is that what that code means? And how to limit my number of chromosomes Oh, yeah, you got to make sure you learn how to do that quickly that's neat Uh, dea moor and fringy love your videos, but i'm begging you stop saying logistically when you mean logically They're not the same. I know logistically means and i'm pretty sure fringy does too ever say logistically logistically is about like movement of items right and and how things how things come together in processes You'd say that like logistically speaking world war two is very complicated, right? Yeah, that would be true Yeah, logistically speaking and this is where I think the mistake comes in if you said world war two logistically speaking was a nightmare Someone could be like you mean logically you could be like no no Logistics and logic they have the same base word And there's there's overlap for sure the same thing But and and to be fair I may have used it incorrectly at some point But I am aware of what the difference between logically and logistically is Yeah, likewise, and I just I feel like it's not a word. I say that often Nope, I don't think I using that all for no, but uh I remember there was a word I was using static to mean the opposite of what it meant for a while I had to learn to get out of that one, but logistically. I'm pretty sure I've got a handle on it Uh e-fap on me birthday Yes Put a little smiley face about that. That is pretty exciting. I will keep asking when are you playing Sekiro?  I want you to play. It was funny I think Theo would love to see me play sakuro, but he's simultaneously was like Let the man play what he wants to play.  Look at them go Gadzooks crazy. I will play games. Okay. I'll do it, but you you know I got no I've made no promises And if like if if rags and free every day will like you have to play and then chose one of those I'd probably do it. Okay But um, I haven't been bullied into any of these yet But I will I was there, sonny the console wars was hell. I remember Yeah, same. I remember watching a bunch of videos to compare the uh 360 and ps3 like down to performances and graphics and revel resolution and uh A lot of the conclusions were the ps3 wins But that it can't beat out the fact that the 360 has the just the party features are all good to go Well, yeah, as I understand it, uh Like party chat was just something that could never be implemented on ps3 didn't have enough ram I've said it before and uh Say again, uh, the friend who went with ps3 was telling all of us to do ps3 And that we can do team speak over our laptops and stuff to to simulate the party chat We're all just like but fuck off, but it's built in with the 360 Team speak on your laptops. I'm like, no man. I'm out That kills it right there. Yeah, and uh, it's one of those things They couldn't have known that that was like the key which would be interesting, right? If everyone got reset like 50 years or something But everyone has the knowledge of what the future holds how how different the timeline would shake out, you know Yeah Would it be better or worse? Well, like if if if everybody had Predictions of the future I guess if we rewound 50 years and so all the people who are You know 50 plus get to actually I don't know what it would mean for people like us do we Have our memories Yeah, but you it just wouldn't play out the same way though. That's the thing you would have to accept it Yeah, I don't know it feels like it probably would just cause a bunch of new problems Because I think I think it's intuitive to be like, well, of course it would be better I because we'd know all the things that go wrong It's like, yeah, but everyone and that means everyone's trying to subvert everyone before everyone does the things So I feel like it beats the purpose Yeah And then of course you might be like I'm gonna bank on this trend before it even happens And it's like will it happen if you bank on it before it happens like what's I don't know humans are weird Who knows And will it If we all get transported back from when we were would there for example even be like a time where let's play dominated or would it be It would be like boring already because everyone's seen it already I don't know that react meta would start sooner You know, you could probably make a movie about that even just rewind a year See how everything Goes goes different goes crazy Uh, hi john Uh, you would say hi hour three of lewis We have indeed made it to the third house I just went to the comments of this video and most people are giving it insane amounts of praise Someone said it made them cry multiple times off my ass off the the Really the lewis one lying. They're lying. That didn't happen. I don't know maybe uh, you know people have cried watching uh All kinds of things this this this infinite infinite stimulants that will provide water to to Jump out of your eyelids. I don't know Happy fifth anniversary also hi rags Hello there After eight hours. I beat the flying pinecone bay blade in assassin's creed six. I'm shaking They're awesome dude good good stuff. You beat him.  Yeah I don't know what any of that means flying pinecone bay blade No, I didn't know that bay blades were in assassin's creed, but it shows how out of touch. I am with the series Oh, and congratulations on your 250th anniversary as drinker says and hi rags Hello Alrighty. Yeah. Thank you. Uh happy five years. You're massive. Here's to five more Here's to five billion more with a b Billion Happy anniversary. Thank you Lewis was great. This guy's just bald Everyone needs a Lewis in their life. Okay Lewis is the fat Geralt to this guy's Lev. Oh my god pooped him Uh, maybe his friends were trolling him saying they beat the games real fast because they knew the anxiety and dread would set in Well, I mean, I think the simpler answer would be that uh, they might have bragged more than they you know They might have been Talking a big game, but they want that good at video games, you know it's so weird because if everyone was playing a campaign game and you hadn't completed yet and everyone's talking about good it is I don't remember it like for me and again could be just different for me But like it wasn't like a shame aspect. It was more so like hurry up. Finish it. Come talk about it like Personally just because we talked about video games all the time at school And and it's not like we all played the same games. Yeah, they were common denominators, but You know, like everybody played Call of Duty and stuff But uh, like people just talk about games and movies they'd seen and tv shows they'd watched Whether everybody had watched them or not. There was nothing preventing us from talking about them Of I don't know and especially as somebody who definitely didn't have as many games as other people that I knew I never felt like there was some I never felt pressured to complete every game. I just played them because I wanted to I just can't relate to the experience that he was conveying.  Give him a break I guess so. Yeah Well, you know video game high school is a tough other review seen that show I know about it. I never watched it Ah, what about you rags the what's been in the show again video game high school No, that doesn't that doesn't ring a bell to me Good old fred. Did you ever watch freddy rong rocket jump stuff? No, I don't know I'm surprised that you've never I feel like you would have you've probably seen at least one of that They did like action Scenes and then they made that show and now i'm not sure what they're doing. Yeah, I don't know what they're doing these days Uh, is yms coming on you're my favorite at moeller Thank you. And uh, we were we were only able to get uh to talk to yms on that friday That's why that was such a weird and specific time to uh, have a chat with him. He's a very busy man doing all kinds of uh Film festivals for one and uh film reviews and editing and all kinds of things.  Vladimir Baggins Oh, louis is bald How about it? A shilling for the massive meter and this was sent apparently at 840 gmt Which would have been about two hours after we started 640s when i'm 630 Yeah Okay, that's what the guy said hour three. Oh, I guess he says like when the hour three begins I I see I follow Even though i've only watched you guys for a few months still glad to enjoy your charm and entertainment Oh, thank you very much Karl Marx the worst Marx brother It's true. It was a funny at all Congrats on making it to five years. Keep on keeping on you lovely massives We shall thank you Moeller in metal and as is louis or moeller is metal and as is louis You have to finish lord of ring golem. I didn't force them. I said they could stop whenever they wanted They wanted to continue We're desperate Uh, you can be friends and not have played the same games except fringy not playing soma. I will never Accept him until that happens Understandable this halloween right fringy right right right right he went to get coffee. He knew he knew it was coming He knew it was coming right. I'm going to read that one again when he's back Just as is and pretend that we haven't heard it before Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, let's do it. Okay. Yeah We need louis to fight jim sterling also congratulations you massives on 250 years of efap stay long We shall The long is unstoppable Uh, it's great to see efap lasting five years and counting can do it Coincidentally it also it is also heritage days in my hometown keep up the long fellow fappers Alrighty will do Happy fifth anniversary efap and with a very very strong start here's to many more years of amazing content here here Uh, forget owning games that we'll never play imagine all of us who grew up with entire rooms full of books that we'll never read That's true. I read a lot as a kid I'll say that every book in my room when I was growing up I I'd read it because I wanted to I like to read and look at the pictures and learn stuff You know, but that um, you know, there's other members of the family They likely have huge collections and stuff including parents and they just may very well be books You never read it's the the implication was that it's not okay. And it's like it's okay. It'll be fine It's okay You can have you can have books on the shelf or games on the shelf that you've not engaged with Doesn't make you a bad person I loved blood born so much. I wanted to a hundred percent it also I'm way better than when I was a child old people not good at games as bull. I'm proof I think a lot of people assume The old people are like way worse when I assume it's just like a prime thing right like kids not so great But you know and then teenagers pretty solid and then when you're like young adult Probably teenagers to young adult. That's like when you'll have the prime sort of reaction time and uh I think that's esport era like the the best ages to be an esport person is still like What is it like 18 to 25 or something Something like that. It's definitely a young person's sport though Um, depending on the game You know that that can get stretched out. Yeah, you know the super twitchy kind of games are you know probably young person dominated But I often wonder how big You know of an advantage they really have for being young or if it really is just because you know culturally video games are often or people who Want to devote the time to being? Uh Oh, yeah, they the amount of time you have to devote devote to being a professional gamer And that kind of lifestyle Maybe it's really difficult to do that if you are just older and you have more like responsibilities. Maybe Families parents getting older things of that nature and so You just can't put yourself in that kind of a job where you have to you know Live in a house with everyone in your team And practice that much on a game and it's not necessarily financially viable for the vast majority of people. So Who knows but I would yeah, it seems to be a young person thing.  Hi frog daddy g. Hi mutually. Hello. Hi theo still sub to you. Hi lewis the cyborg. Hi lewis gaming. Hi shad the lu Shad the lu There's a lot of we in this is what I said about the yms efab, you know because he peed a lot There was a lot of peeing. Yes Uh jim sterling was right all games need an easy mode so this guy can finish all games for his health Yeah, yeah, yeah, I I'm okay with that Tell people through the experience, you know don't want lewis coming after you Lewis you conspire against me You conspire against me Congrats on the big 250 guys. Thank you very much Couldn't watch from the beginning, but happy fifth efab can't wait for my vinyls also hi rags Hello, I can't wait all too I should have known lewis was plotting to take over anakin jim sterling is evil from my point of view lewis is evil Well, then you are lost And you are lost Thanks lewis is pretty chill Lewis is great I guess a bad friend of the channel lewis. Mm-hmm long time friend of the channel First Joel now lewis there's villainy afoot Yes, there is But who's villainy?  He was the one that made the bike. I always thought it was lewis I just couldn't quite put a name to it, you know Woo congrats on 250 hard to believe this podcast has been around for 250 years Thank y'all for doing everything you do screeches for the good boy the good frog the posh long fellow. Hi rags Hi I've always described you as posh. You're very very posh very very much and do 250 years of podcasting. It's crazy It's a long time to be podcasting.  Um Between the two, uh, general. I'm gonna side with a r though. I do think it's a Somewhat. Yeah, I do think it's a better platform But for my purposes, I just doesn't really matter to me. I I enjoy them both But I do think that ar is a better platform Hmm Hi rags Hello. Hi fringy Hey You can be friends and not have played the same games except fringy not playing soma I will never accept him until that happens Interesting. Uh, yeah, there's something to be said about that. I'm not saying I agree, but there's definitely, uh, definitely something Talk about There's halloween's on the way, right? You wouldn't miss it this time this year. No, no, no not this time for real We'll uh, we'll get it sorted for this halloween exciting Uh gang gang ice cream yum. Sorry. I'll stop now Yeah, please do Yeah Uh fio won the argument Yes, yes fio look at him go Congrats to five years of pausing every frame and battling the greatest supervillains of our day Here's to five more years of turning a 15 minute video into a 17 hour podcast Hell yeah, you know it You know it Hey, you're covering this vid like I asked cool. Yeah, I did mention a couple of the ones we covered for the anniversary of from superchats It's because you ask So don't worry you folks out there if you think that I say I'll check that out. I'm not lying I'm not like the person who says comment down below and I'll reply and then check it out Tell me what you thought Let me know. Did you did you agree with me or did you disagree with me? Let me know. Yeah, I still want to see that parody visuals Like and my family they uh, they all died. They didn't make it out Comment below uh for what you have to say about this. Do you have a dead family? Let me know in the comments So a fake philosophy channel shilling a fake therapy website great Oh, we're on wisecrack already.  That was a bad first impression. Yeah. Yeah What makes maybe they think philosophy maybe they think that that's the study of phil I mean the study of phil specifically. It's very intuitive. Yeah Yeah President phil What makes good rat bulls above wang some of my favorite moments in efab history congrats on 250. He is the 250 more Is the 250 more indeed? Thank you Wisecrack what's next an extra credits video? We are long overdue for an extra credits video. Yeah Oh, it has been a while. Yeah, it's always been whenever they get into trouble and then we find out about it I've never like looked at their channel. I don't think anyway. I remember they did one on um It's also on tweeting about it the other day that their video on games should cost Whatever, I can't remember. Did we cover that? Oh, I don't think that one, but it was and I think that was a maybe for us Games should not cost 60 dollars anymore. That's the argument would be that they should cost more because inflation Yeah, but I mean ultimately games cost what people are willing to pay for them. Yeah Yeah, I uh if games were like if triple a games in particular were really good oftentimes I'd be like sure But I just feel like I feel like in in the age of I mean we we can do that's the mini version of it here Especially we're gonna have to talk about microtransactions. We're gonna have to talk about season passes and battle passes and all that sort of thing All the minus says digital Digital yeah, so there's less overhead in terms of shipping and packaging things of that nature We're gonna have to talk about how there's more people buying them So i'm just not really sympathetic to the argument that Film should cost less, you know when people point out You know you pay cost 20 bucks to go to the theater, but you pay 60 bucks for a game that offers more content Yeah, maybe films cost too much to go to the theaters to watch. That's true It's funny when you start involving like, um, you know, look how hard they worked or look how much content is in here And much quality or whatever and you're like Probably shouldn't based on quality. Otherwise we should be getting refunds Well, I mean if it was quality then there are a lot of indie games It should cost full price and a lot of triple-a games that they should be selling to me for 20 bucks But that's not how it works Yeah, it is an off Uh, but yeah, I can't remember if we actually covered it or not. Um, but extra credits It sounds familiar because i'm pretty sure that was their argument, but I don't think we covered it um I hope that lewis guy finds someone to talk to he's got a lot of shame. He should process being someone who had similar issues I hope he gets better Uh, lewis was fine, right? It was the other lewis was okay. It sounds like lewis was okay Sounds like lewis said you should finish the game before reviewing it and this guy took that personally I can then garrad it forth for the rest of his life Uh, fringy got any info or advice for anyone visiting australia? Um, I have no idea where I would even begin with a question like that As like general guidance for visiting this massive country Yeah, I have no idea. I I have no clue what I would even give us advice I don't know about because the weather would vary depending on time of year and where you are The things that you can see and do vary depending on the city that you're visiting Wow, so australia is like every other place on earth Crazy, I mean, I mean, well, just be like if someone said advice on visiting america I don't I don't know what to do with that. I feel like rags would probably give us a whole bunch of sightseeing recommendations, right? um Well, sure, but like I don't That depends on where you're going or like it sounds like it sounds like you're already on your way In which case I have no idea what to recommend. I don't know. Um Go see the sydney opera house the bridge You know the bridge I've heard about the bridge. Yeah, we were talking about the other day the famous australian bridge We were kind of thinking about maybe going to check it out some day. Yeah um Red ocean road is a really cool thing to uh to do If you got the opportunity lots of cool landmarks, um Lots of great natural scenery on that route. I mean it takes you straight to melbourne or alternatively It's at the middle of nowhere depending on which direction you're going All right Gold coast isn't very interesting. Sorry. Um, I would definitely recommend if you were ever visiting Somewhere in australia. Just go to sydney or melbourne or brisman or perth or adelaide or like I might even recommend. No, I probably wouldn't recommend camber over the gold coast But still gold coast is pretty boring in my humble opinion hmm It's like, um, it's like the orlando of australia Well, um, uh, i'm going to orlando Would you go to orlando over would you over sure but like If you could only go to orlando in new york, like where would you rather go? To visit Yeah, but you only get to go to one place Ever I mean, I guess new york That's kind of right. That's kind of what i'm Um, you know, like would you rather because i'm only going to orlando because of friends have invited me to do some stuff down there Sure Well, it's just because uh orlando is the it's like the touristy kind of place, isn't it? Like predominantly Wow, I i'm asking you Like that's what I don't I don't know. I just want to know about orlando. I just don't know I've never been I'll go for the first time uh in In september mid september and I'll tell you all about it Uh, however, I don't know if I don't know if my experience will be What most people will experience So, um, I don't know how much I'll information. I'll be able to convey So, I think we'll find out I guess to put a to put a cap on it I think generally my preference if you if you're gonna visit australia see all of the natural Places that you can go to see if you can go to like the dain tree rain forest or cosy osco national park or Great ocean road or You know out to the outback that's kind of that's kind of the stuff that I find most interesting about this country Is uh the natural like beauty of it All right Uh Let's be honest the trolley problem is no shrodinger's erection Like we're at the point of the trolley problem stuff um You can tell if I have an erection though I Okay, or if I I'm I mean, yeah, I don't know. I I'm not exactly certain what they're really getting that Light 93 was likely headed to the white house or capital building passengers found out about plan planes hitting twin towers via cell phones Passengers made calls saying they were gonna stop the plane Yeah, I think uh Paul Gringrass made uh film about it um But yeah, as I understand it it was that that was the fourth one that got hijacked Passengers figured out About what was happening and then made the decision to storm the cockpit to try and put a stop to it um A tragic but I mean very heroic on their part Absolutely that plane could have done an incredible amount of damage Well, they saved lives. There's you know, they they saved the lives of uh, wherever that plane was heading the targets Uh re last of us tv show I heard the final episode screws up the rest of the season Sort of had a talk you an arch also covered it might be worth asking them The last of us tv show is that I heard the final episode screws up the rest of the season. Holy bolear Yeah, the last of a show is great and you should watch it. The last episode was really good wrong Yeah, I really like the last episode together in a neat little bow Just like the game's ending did because it's quite close quite close. Yeah Very very good. Um, and I feel like You know not to toot my own horn But if you watch the last of us those things I put a lot of work into them comparing the scenes the The show is faithful as fuck. It could have been a hell of a lot worse And uh, we were worried extremely nervous watching that last episode and we walked away really like and if you're curious You can you know watch those and make an assessment yourself on a lot of the scene comparisons I set up I deliberately they were really good for copyright protection Of course because you can just go back forth back forth to see the differences and the uh pros and cons and stuff Um, we we're gonna talk to dev about it at some point But it's funny because he's come on to you've had like three times since then we haven't even mentioned it Can we always forget that shit like I had dev at the last of us. How'd you have some wrong perspectives on it? Wrong Yes, his perspective is wrong. That show is really good. Watch it guys. It is very good. It is very good show Uh, does he realize we check code even before it's added to the source code? I'm not sure what that's referencing. I'm afraid I can't remember myself either Uh, thanks for five years of faps just ordered my vinyl figures also I volunteer myself as reverend of efap if anyone needs an officiant to get married Reverend of each other Official efap reverend Why not Someone draw metal or help someone draw metal and momla Why Just for the the the sheer titillation. Why not His name is lewis polson Oh fight club plus lewis memes. You know lewis polson hour five of 24 oh well Asimov's rule of robotics might work as a guideline But the whole crux of a lot of his works is how easily those three rules can be misinterpreted or even abused by a machine led by them um The core drama for him in in iRobot, which is not the best representation of like an exploration of this Is that um a robot has a choice to save him or a girl who are both drowning And uh, he wants the robot to save the girl But the robot decides like i'm saving you because you have a way higher likelihood of surviving this And I think isn't the point that will smith was like the girl would have survived if he'd chosen to save the girl The girl would have survived I don't care if I have a higher likelihood and that's the kind of shit that you just don't get when you're a robot versus a human Even with those laws. It's like, yeah, okay. I understand that um Because you know iRobot's not useless the third act is useless The film Uh, but yes the this what we were trying to get across the I think is uh indigo brought up but the laws of robotics are kind of like We're we're past that trolley problem is trying to uh issue into a lot of Standard sort of principles that you'd have for ethics or the trolley problem You know if the if the laws of robotics are like don't harm people The point of the trolley problem with the self-driving car or someone's getting harm no matter what so Yeah, and you can take you can take all kinds of positions. There are many people who would say I don't pull the Lever and I'm not responsible for anything and then you stack one side right like with a billion people And then the other side is nobody do you pull it then it's like no i'm not responsible for any of this like, okay I mean you can say that all you want Well, it's the thing in this comparison of ethical systems and it's that's just not one I buy at all Uh, golem is one game lewis never finished I think lewis would have finished golem Okay, I believe in it Uh, nico is a wise old porcupine who lives behind the lanes Oh and you're uh In your little in the frogs doing bowling thing Oh I have been dabbling with that idea sitting down and thinking about it I'm all a congrats I'm thankful for you and all the efab guys and all the guys and all the girls involved and all you do And all the others do smiley face. Well, thank you. Thanks I noticed while at my mum's place that better help has tv ads now chance They went legit seems weird that they were off the grid for so long back then Like I said, I don't want to make any claims because I've not looked into it But the fact that they're still around means they must have improved right from what they were Uh, hopefully yeah either they improved people or it wasn't enough of a hit or enough people just didn't learn about it or something I'm here if you want to talk about your car warranty I guess that's referencing the better help stuff. I'm not sure No, it's the the scam callers where he were the the the spam calls We're here. We're calling In regards to your car's extended warranty or something like that. I see spam calls. Yeah For sure. I would just slam that switch back and forth splitting the trolley onto both tracks at great speed Yeah, why not?  Am I right? Got him So do these people who think the trolley problem is useless? Do they think fire escape plans are useless since they're also hypothetical too?   When people say like, um, you know Isn't it recommended like in a birding building don't go in just to try and save someone even if you think someone's there Unless of course like firefighters or specially train and stuff and there's just like Why tell me all this? I'll just panic and go in and try and grab my loved one anyway Uh future armor had an interesting version of the trolley problem where bender had a tiny civilization on his body Do you help everyone or let them help themselves? Um, I don't know if I call that the trolley problem, but I get what you mean.  So i'm like I guess That implies it was all consensual or something.  Yeah, I just out of the loop on that one No idea. I'm just no clue. Hello mubishly rags fringled mortal and guests. Congratulations on 250 episodes. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Lobsters live to be over 100 years old a cat lives 11 years. That's 500 years of life versus 11 easy choice Yeah, but it depends on how you feel about the I don't know the life of a lobster and also I don't it can live and does live Is another thing but um, yeah, I just feel like a cat is way more Well, that's like saying well if you take a trill a like a billion ants if an ant lives for I don't know Four weeks or however long an ant lives. I don't know I add that up. That's way more than a person. So yeah What if we made it like more relatable? What if it was I don't know like a hundred year old man versus a two year old Galapagos tortoise Well, yeah, that that's the trolley problem You start to get difficult because what about who's like got a day left versus, uh, you know A lot of animals that might be considered kind of meh Like um, yeah Meh ones are the interesting ones because if it's a dog, you know, that's that's uh, people people really like dogs But if it was I don't know a mongoose or something that might be You might get more interesting answers Dave the cat have plenty of lobster for your dinner later tonight. I see this trolley problem as an absolute win Yum, I'll do love me some lobster Cats have nine lives hit the cat and save all six Ah Oh A rat or five twitch react streamers Save the rat. Save the rat. Save the rat. He's adding more to society. Save him Yay How about xqc versus five lobsters? Who do you kill? Which one is the one where we're not pulling the Thing so I can I can make the claim Put it put xqc on the not pull and then I'll be like listen my ethics. Tell me that if I don't pull it I'm not involved. So Sorry I mean five lobsters are pretty cool Uh for the last year and a bit I've been in the drafting process of creating a video game based on this podcast characters memes and lore Oh Interesting That's an interesting project See how it turns out Happy anniversary been here since efap 18 and while the series may be past its prime now. It's still worth watching. Wow Wow, I don't think that we're past our prime at all I mean I disagree It's funny if there was like a to be considered best episode It would probably be a combination of how entertaining it was and then how like extensive and detailed it was or how Our research and stuff and I would wonder if if I was forced to choose which I believe genuinely is the best episode It probably might be the synthetic man one There's like an insane amount of work went into that and then the analysis and the fact that I had a huge crossover with a break breakdown of a video game And it's like the story It covers everything that efap does right like it's a video response, but it's also a media breakdown It's also a defense of something That we think is strong So it's like, you know, it's all about argumentation and stuff and then of course is the entertainment factor of what a guba He was and then there's like, you know, it had shocking highs and twists in it And obviously I bring that up because that's one of the that's one of the modern episodes It is it is indeed a modern episode But, you know, if uh if you feel we're past our prime, yes, your opinion It is your opinion, you know, you're entitled to your opinion regardless of how wrong it is Thank you for the ungodly amount of hours produced. No problem. Hope you enjoy Yeah, and you're welcome It's an adventure game kind of like a legend of zelda but with a fish out of water buddy cup feel I've got characters game mechanics world and story mapped out music developed for it and metal You get to be the final boss metals the final boss But why is there a big story twist where he's like, oh, I'm gonna get you because you'd think it would be Like movie Bob or something Wisecrack what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard at no point in your rambling Uh rambling incoherent response whether you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought I know that quote It's formus It is formus everyone in this room is now dumber for you having listened to it or for having listened to it. Sorry Uh, if you're interested more or I'd like to send you all of my notes and see what you think would uh What would be the best way also scratches for the good doggo? Oh, thank you. Um, I I appreciate and and respect everything that you intend to do and everything But I try to find any way possible to avoid Doing any kind of review of anyone's work as fans because it would open the door and I have no way how to do that I have no way to do it fairly, you know um, even on projects like that, I suppose but um, it's really cool You're deciding to do it and I wish you the best of luck, of course 100% Like since day one of her people were like, can you review my Thing and thinking I'm just like, I don't know how to How to do this the right way Uh a first evap i've caught live more are always a pleasure to watch your evap videos back on your main channel Thanks for keeping things real homie much love from australia Well, much love from the realm of evap, which is america australia and britain combined America the three fists of earth or something Like that Uh more will you stream a starfield first time playthrough? I have no intention to play that game at all You guys playing it, uh I'll check it out What does that mean like videos or I don't know Well, I got game pass. I'll check it out, but I'm all right streaming it because I don't know if I got I I don't know how I don't know if that game's gonna grab me at all. I'm not hyped for it in the least. I'm just like, uh, okay Yeah, I'm not hyped for it either. I'm just like well, this is happening Uh, the kid who took the trolley but killed people on both tracks was on to something. He solved it before any of us I agree This is what happens when all someone cares about it themselves The person getting run over doesn't matter how it affects the rest of the world doesn't matter The only thing that matters is themselves Listen, okay A lot of people have like the the cynical You know these these questions are silly as well because it'll Prevent people from fully understanding the grander context and all the different things that can happen It's like but isn't that a good medium to help them understand those things Like if someone said You know, I'm gonna kill 10 old people and save the baby And then you're like how much those old people mean to so many people might make them go.  You're a bad piss for not having thought of that already It's like no, no, that's the point of the trolley problem makes you think it makes you go.  I forgot that that is something I value That's something that plays into it and times by 10 makes it complicated I think a lot of people are very quick to judge anyone's Thoughts on what they want to do or not want to do on trolley problems when To me it almost is all about like trying to do that If you if you get a trolley problem answer instantly and confidently It's almost the most boring result of having a trolley problem. It's like well, okay.  Hopefully stop drop and roll Hopefully, yeah Man when I was a kid we learned a lot about stop drop and roll but Catching fire just isn't that much of an issue in my life. I must admit I see what you're saying They shouldn't have told you about any of that because when was it ever gonna happen When was it ever gonna happen?  Oh, no, I'm on fire. Ah, it's like, uh What's up massives happy anniversary Hello and happy. Hi. Thanks Congrats on your big 250th year anniversary. Everyone have a great electronic fap. Hi adam Oh, yes adam would have joined us at this point.   Yeah steal content or die The only thing you can do I free I started watching the simpsons because of your joyful references to it and have been enjoying it immensely Thank you p.s favorite season Season six is my favorite um, so many great episodes The um, it's like six seven eight right is like this this the golden era of the golden era Um, I'd be happy to include five in that too It's uh High quality and then it starts to get a little less and less as it goes But pretty gradually First super chat. Hello there mr. Mollsbury steak. I a i rag Ragnold greetings to the gallery Um, hi. Hello there objectively 250 is a number canonically. I'm at efap 82. So I'll see myself Soon loved wolf but not jay smiley face How dare you jay will seek your fortune Uh On one of the tracks is both adam and sitch the other track is xqc's chair You have enough time to untie adam But then you have to choose to watch from xqc's chair. We'll go to cook the nuggies. Was the trolley transformative Yes, sounds like the trolley was very transformative. Yes Sounds like that trolley's working hard Imagine there is a switch in your self-driving car where you choose the ai's reaction to accidents whether the car will swerve or not um Say that one more time. I think they're saying Imagine you could override the decision the self-driving car makes when it comes to making trolley problem things I guess the difficulty is that So for example because they said swerve right so say you're heading toward an old lady and the car is like gonna swerve And then you you would like no, I don't want to risk it myself. We're killing that old lady Ah I don't know if they That's a yeah I don't know because of course you could say like well They don't get to override it because the company's not going to be held libel It's like oh, but then in that case wouldn't it be that if you take control The liability is now on you and off the company Um, I guess you could say that. Yeah, I think assume that's how that would work But that that could seriously be a thing we have to sort out soon. Who knows Um For anyone who says the trolley problem is only ever hypothetical ask them to explain triage I I don't I kind of begin to understand it the idea that the trolley problem has never been presented in real life And unless they mean literally the two tracks and someone sets it up And there's an awkward looking man with a little switch who's like staring at the two options But even that that's probably happened in some sort of way at some point This stupid as fuck. Oh, we know that a v-source made it happen, you know, but it wasn't quite real Um another year another anniversary. Thanks as ever for the long and the laughter high rags Hello You know what game tests your moral fiber the most it's your boy rage shadow legends Hey, yo, it's true Yeah, it's a trolley problem for the ages Spec ops the line, of course that gets mentioned. Yes Yep Uh, why does fringy hate soma It's a good question. Why do you hate soma?  I have it on good authority that he does not hate soma that's right EFAP covering abortion. This is way more hype Yeah, that came up Uh from where did that come up again? Was that a super chat? Was that from a video? He started talking about it a Catholic thing. Oh, yes, of course Fringy thoughts on abortion Uh next next super chat. Oh my goodness. All right over under on if the next video has a new mad New mad Probably decent likelihood, but we didn't come across any new meds I don't know what that what does that mean for society? I don't know Uh, maybe the new meds have moved on Fringy stop dodging the political questions and tell us tell us about the economy civil rights secret goo in the flat moon Stream soma already a flat moon I'm about to ask for everything else. Yeah, next do you think the moon's flat fringy? Uh, he refuses to talk about the flat moon. So interesting interesting He's just asking questions, huh? Okay. All right. That's I didn't say anything I know you didn't say anything You're the one speaking Yep, I feel like you're speaking as well for me. I'm just saying just I'm just asking questions What if before you could pull the lever the trolley turns into a dragon and eats everyone Oh my goodness. I think that's if you pull the lever off. That's that's when that option comes up This is a dragon.  I always feel like it's a bit It's the competition man. I don't know it always feels a bit like defensive You know when someone says like you can't play god and then someone else goes, this is not even possible Jebus is up there in the sky. You can't be here.   You would surely love the atmosphere of those games So i'm pretty hyper familiar with allen wake the original. I played it a couple times on 360 I streamed it. I think three different times back in twitchy days Um, I like it a whole bunch and I think I like it more than I think it's like a good game Well, likely I know that you did a remaster for ps5 So I happily stream that and then allen wake two on ps5 and I've heard the control Is set in the same universe or something That's what I've had So, yes, there's a good chance that would happen Though holy fuck my halloween Meaning my october is going to be busy Very busy If i'm trying to stream all three of those as well But all right. I like a challenge hour seven of 24 Oh, wow, we're moving. Yeah, I'm moving. Look at that Interesting. We're up to two and a half hours as well. So, uh, not bad. Not bad We debate such ethics via our phones that are powered by slave mind lithium to act that we are above the trolley problem is a classic first world privilege Above it. I don't know.  I don't know Well, but like the feeling that it's like, oh, it's so stupid and it's a waste of time and Um, I mean it seemed like they were All right Like they they were seriously sticking to the whole like this isn't gonna happen in real life And and when you're in in the situation anywhere close to that in real life You'll be thinking about things that you will not be thinking about in the theory of it Which is obviously stupid But I don't know that I would consider that being better than the trolley problem or something or being above it I I don't really need feel much of a need to defend them. There was a really bad video It was a very bad video um There is a trolley problem in angel that is true. This one is referencing it. I won't say what it is But it relates to those characters we were talking about for you earlier Interesting big old trolley problem angel thinks he has the answer for it straight away and then he thinks about it Because it's complicated A shilling for your hypothetical meter. Thank you very much. Oh, thank you. Yeah This video is just I hate that the trolley problem forces me to confront that my knowledge of morals is not perfect So I'll just poison the well I will say uh anyone who rages against the trolley problem I have a feeling in the back of my head like do you hate that it makes you uncomfortable. Is that it? Is it okay? People like that. There are absolutely people like that who don't like to think about you know Don't like to think about those sorts of things And by the way, uh, I can't remember if we mentioned it when we were covering it all at some point But the answer I'm not sure is also okay That's right I don't know. It's fine Um, I'll even say that you could say I'm not sure but you know gun to my head I guess I'll choose this one for now just to keep going or whatever That's how the hence why we did the voting system was was the best way to get through it instead of You know arguing until we all agree was just never gonna happen Um, I love hearing you talk about ethics and morals. I think it's a valuable conversation It was entertaining. Love you all happy anniversary Oh, yeah, glad you enjoyed it. It was a fun conversation. I enjoyed having it I did too and it was rather spontaneous. It was not uh Really planned the uh the the trolley problem thing even though it's quite fun And uh, yeah, I like stuff like that. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see other streamers In our sphere do it I say streamers, you know, I mean like if gary and az did it or if Uh, maybe we should watch sargon do it. That could be fun.  Okay There's a small chance that the rich man is a son It's like the fact of that in Oh, yeah What if you flip to coins zero chance What if you flip the coin and acted on that That is an ethical system. I guess Yeah, just puts a lot of because it's just like chance decides not me But I I guess you chose to Exactly You make yourself an object in the universe. Why would you do that? The five cultists got high on spiked trolley candies And trolley candies Yeah, that was a weird one. That was a weird one. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot to consider with that one. It's it's a tough one Oh, they were all supposed to be but you know Uh, congratulations on 250 years of efap armoured core six is great so far any interest mubesleet also high rags Scritches for a good boy Hello, I'm afraid not I've never cared about armoured core and uh as much as I've heard people Saying they're enjoying it. I've not heard much more than that like Oh, you know, there's a lot of games that qualify in the realm of you'd enjoy it If everyone was going absolutely nuts and saying you have to play this do not miss it Which when was the last time that happened for a game for its mechanics? Do you guys remember? For its mechanics probably tears of the kingdom Um, it's tough to say I get sort of sprinkled recommendations sort of all over the time last time probably Oh, I don't know That's that's hard to uh because I have to sort through all the recommendations and then think about which one for the mechanics Um, yeah, but a lot of like it's implied when people say you know that they recommend a game Because I think it it can make a lot of sense for people to be like you got to play now like when it's a story One because they don't need to get it spoiled or to hear about it outside of the context of playing it and stuff Um mechanical ones. I almost wish there were more Times where a game can like kick off worldwide for popularity for its mechanics Well, like as tears of the kingdom would be the most recent game they got praised heavily for its mechanics Yeah, and I remember seeing like clips and stuff of cool shit Yeah You're waiting for a train that will take you far away You know, you hope this train will take you you know where you hope this train will take you But you don't know for sure, but it doesn't matter How can it not matter to you when you not know where the train will take you wait Um, I'm gonna read that again. Okay. I'm gonna slowly. I don't know if this is supposed to be taken seriously or a fleam You're waiting for a train that's gonna take you far away You know where you hope this train will take you but you don't know for sure But it doesn't matter. How can it not matter to you where that train will take you? It's a good question I wish I had an answer Yeah What he said Something to think about it's really something to think of Wrong Good reference So about the five that tied themselves versus the one that tripped. What if their positions were switched? It goes toward the trip guy by default Uh, oh, so you're saying what if five people tripped versus one person who tied themselves I think yeah, that would be easier because that's five the five be one thing. Yeah, that's why it's That's why it's a difficult one because it's five people who seemingly want this A trolley heading towards 35 people you can pull it but your d will be destroyed. What do you do?  It's like I hope I will be able to do that in that situation. Yes Um, but those ones you have to be like You just recognize The emotional stress you'll be under in a moment like that and uh, you can freeze all kinds of things can happen Yeah Happy 250 massives mollus and lewis a link. Don't be rude We invited him. He's busy finishing games What Lewis does Congrats on five years. Thank you all for the entertainment discussion and great debate pull the lever Well, we did a whole bunch Sometimes we didn't though Rags isn't ruining grandma. That's a plot hole Is it though? We can always redraft Every grandma must be ruined or should be ruined. Mm-hmm This is incredible I assume I'm talking about the trolley problem portion If you had a perfect cinch six inch tail. Oh, sorry six inch tall clone of hitler. What would you do with him? uh Price normal person stuff six inch tall I don't know. He probably haven't give ted talks or something That sounds like a really awful satire. Like they were like my little hitler.    Yay What if mark does want to replace himself? Oh, yeah, this is when mark was dealing with his five clones remember No, yeah Yeah, that one I found interesting the idea that the clones humanity was not worth that much Strange to me Okay Well, again, uh, just like the robits. There's a there's a sort of Fundamental of like some people would be like clones. They're just that's just a no They can't exist no matter what they're unethical whatever they are Uh, it really depends on some other things sometimes when the trolley problem is set Prestige those clones I guess you could yeah with the trolley Briny really needs to play soma by the way, I agree Yeah I think you will just have to play it out of the obligation that uh, we've missed out on about 200,000 conversations So the past like year and a half of efem because of that it's uh There's some stuff that happens in it You know some stuff to the point where I think even if you would enjoy the game You'd need to finish it now just so that you know what we're talking about Of course Um lights tiki torch clones will not replace us Maybe they will Maybe they already are How would you know how do you know the kind of person your competitive clone wouldn't want you to be They're just clones. They're meant to be expendable. I know that reference. It's like Isn't the first episode of clone wars or something It's pretty early on it's it's a cool thing that happens because One of the Jedi is like trying to take care of the clones even if they consider themselves expendable Um, oh my god.  Who did this to them? Why does no one care? I care We do care. That's why we're pulling that lever or not pulling that's right That's why we're choosing if I didn't care.  That's the point, right? um Is it isn't judgment is is Remind me. What's the difference between like rapture and judgment day? Is that is judgment day when everyone gets killed? Who's who's left after rapture? So I I think it depends on who you ask when you talk about judgment day That's kind of like the end of the world when all of god's plan is finished and we all go up to heaven or hell or wherever Right and rapture is like oh all the good people go up to heaven and all the sinful people are left behind on earth um Right.  Or or is if there's one or two left they get uh, did you ever watch um This is the end. I think that's what it was called. Yeah, I did There's some stuff. I like it that movie Yeah, there was aspects of it that was amusing um The whole aspect of it rags. It's like it's a it begins as though it's just a bunch of hollywood people famous But like playing themselves, you know like sath rogan james franco all these the they're a group of friends And uh, they're going to get I think something from the grocery store or something and just rapture happens And loads of people getting zapped up and hell starts to break loose and there's demons in the film and stuff and You know all of them get left behind and they're all like why? And then gradually through the film through various acts of uh selflessness some of them maybe make it interesting Um, but quite a goofball film uh rihanna slaps Uh michael sira in that film apparently He asked her to do it for real and as hard as she could To help the film out, you know, what a legend. What a legend allen is. I think it was a sexual thing Why not Uh, there's set values you can't get three people here okay Sentience is not sapience. They said this in all caps as though we're not aware of it when we were clearly aware of it because we discussed it Yeah, we did discuss that often said interchangeably. So I don't even know what the indignance would be Yeah, like as if it's not normal for everybody to Sentience is the go-to one and a lot of people are referring to sapience Hey one human versus five dogs I don't know how yeah like I'm not sure exactly how people would square that away or like one human versus five elephants So i'm not even sure.  It's just it's thinking about thinking about thinking. It's just it's fine. We're all just thinking out loud Yeah, chill, you know There are no actual robots on the line here But maybe one day Bringing should be disqualified from answering this question until he plays soma Um, not really. No There's nothing in soma that's gonna make fringy go like, oh my god. This changes my whole life. The whole reason is that uh We want him to Play it so that he can have references to it But you may it may unlock a few fringe things in your head that you went there previously I mean, I wouldn't want to deny that soma had a huge effect on how I think about things. I'm sure it did Even whether or not I'm conscious of it Um, this is soma all over again. Mola feels I know right Good stuff. I'm trying to avoid saying anything. Okay Are the robots pregnant? Uh, I I don't know That's the they have to specify in the trolly problem for that to come up. Okay Five iron giants versus one human That's how you get people as you start referencing stuff from fiction and then they're like wait a minute five daters or one Picard Yeah Because I think Picard would probably want to save the five daters What if he would yeah What if it was I'm not reading that one? Okay Is this too too much of soma lots of soma references. That's fine. It's fine. It's fine But the person who said to you understand. Yes, that's why it's a difficult question I haven't watched consistently for well over a year, but been her