Good morning. Good evening. Good afternoon. Hope you're all doing well Uh-oh, that's what's going on over here. Something something's pushed and shouldn't be pushed. Okay Sorry about that. Anyway, make sure this is fine over here. Hope you're all doing well I want to go ahead and jump into it The questions that I would like if you all are going to submit questions I really wanted to kind of still focus around The issue of salvation. So I'm my goal is to have our discussion kind of pretend around that and I'm and I'm going to want to really kind of I want to deal a little bit more with if you all happen to saw the the video from last night I went back and watched it. I never really know what how it looks or how it comes across until I go back and watch it and Then even I even sometimes go and check out the check out the chats and just hear Certain arguments just in case I didn't miss any of the arguments. I can confirm that I didn't I heard what they said It is a problem and someone said it said it best a couple people said it best actually I don't see what the debate is as long as we're saying if we're describing how a person gets saved How a person becomes safe how a person becomes a Christian whatever your vernacular is that you want to use As long as we're saying that that is a product of them placing their faith in What Jesus has done on the cross? That person is saved that is not a works based salvation meaning your salvation is not based on your works I think what happens is that a lot of times people kind of let's say straw man the argument Say that if a person talks about works, then that person is saying that our salvation is no Stop stop doing that stop misrepresenting people stop saying Acting as though the word works is a dirty word. The word works is literally in the Bible It's in the Bible a lot of times as a matter of fact. It's in the Bible quite a few quite a few times and We're not saying not saying that you do stuff to one get saved or you do stuff to Stay safe. No one has seen has said that Please do not misrepresent as a matter of fact One of the guys I won't say it yet, but one of the guys that was on I just happened to come across a video Where he pretty much said what I said the reason is because if You make it your point to look for first of all if you look for something bad You'll find some bad if you're looking for clues You'll find the clue Fellows if you're married and and the wife is suspecting you Maybe she's watched some TV or watch something her girlfriend says some stuff to you and then she's just looking for something You're supposed to be home at 505 and you're here at 512. What's what's going on? right And so that can happen sometimes and I think maybe we all can be guilty of that we all can do that So the biggest problem we have is our understanding of salvation I'm gonna cover some things I've covered before I'm gonna listen you guys questions get some response and feedback I've got a little bit extra time of the day didn't mean I'll be here for three hours But I've got a little bit extra time of the day and so There were some things that were stated and I just it's like they're not they're not listening to their arguments It's as though. Yeah faith faith faith faith How do you know you have faith? How do you know you believe someone said that there's a different faith and believe no it's not The word faith and the word believes the same word pistas or pistas However, you want to look at it now the word can be used as a noun and the word can be used as a verb And then I saw someone I Won't say who but who used to frequent the channel now calls me up now calls me a heretic Fine the reason why my heritage to this particular person is because because of the Bible choice of Bible and I don't know what else I don't know what else but fine fine He still watches he still watches and so and he's not blocked but That's fine Are we ever told to do some stuff? Sure So let's do this. Let's back up. Let's back up a little bit Senior Conrad by the way senior Conrad. Do you do y'all happen to see? That he was in the chats last night. I think at least once maybe twice That I saw him but he was he was actually in the chats last night I and again, I don't I don't have an issue with him coming here I would have preferred that could have you know spoken said hey, hey guys, you know, but he didn't but he was in the chats Let me see did you know Alex I did see that I did see that when I I went up to the front I had a I had a doctor's appointment and I went to the front And I just had my phone on and and YouTube sent me this nuts. I'm looking okay I said, I'll check it out later And I couldn't check it out later because yeah, it was it was sent private I did listen to a little bit of Ruslan's and His one private also but but he typically does that though. He typically does that and so Someone was talking about how it just ended abruptly and so forth. I don't don't know what that's about and I think again though part of the issue is that when we talk about free grace with our lordship salvation a lot of the folks in the free grace Camp aren't as free grace as we make them out to be a lot of people in the lordship salvation camp aren't as lordship salvation As we make them out to be are you with me? Because when you start listening to them They a lot of people in the free grace camp do not all but do many do have an issue with sin You know sins of work Sin is something we do and we're told to not do this and what we'll go through some more some more Some more Passes and questions and so forth But let's just back up for a second and then I'll get to you guys's questions and I'm marking them as we go God had never we're talking about a God of that change. Sometimes I think we think because of 2022 or no I'm sorry. It's 20 23. I'm sorry. I'll catch up eventually I'll catch up eventually but because it's 2023 We look at things from a 2023 standpoint or 21st century standpoint or in some case the 20th century standpoint as Though how we see things is the way it was saw in the Bible at that time the way God see things God is a God who's after the same thing irrespective of the time whether it's BC where there's the early ages the middle ages whether it's now he's after the same thing He's looking for people to reflect him. He's looking for people to glorify him. It's always been the case He's looking for people to follow him to be obedient to him and the problem is we just have not done so and God has an issue of sin if you think God didn't have an issue of sin within you missing the whole point of the Bible You are missing the whole point of One day I'm gonna show you guys behind the scenes how I actually click these these comments and watch I Go to click on something and the thing just goes a movie. So God has a problem with sin I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that hadn't changed I'm gonna go out on limb and say that God still is bothered by sin I think the God is so much bothered by sin knowing that we can't do anything about it We will not do anything about it if we could and he decides to do it do us one favor by Coming by taking on flesh and paying the penalty of sin that tells me how much he he dislikes sin That tells me how much he dislikes it and His people that he chose in particularly the Old Testament the Jews Made a covenant with them and because of their sin. They would not do right Now the issue with Israel was that they wouldn't do right I'm sorry that they yeah, they wouldn't do right. They would not keep with his commands his teachings follow him and Because they were sinful God would punish them put them out of the land bring about curses and so forth He would do those things and in many cases kill them Let the whole bunch of them out of the promised land So sin is an issue. So what does God do? And I think this is the reason why I He said you can't have anyone on your channel under 40 anymore I that might be that might have to be the standard moderate job might need to remind me of that But no, they're listen. There's some there's some some people who are in their 30s and 20s who you know I think they are and listen, I don't have an issue with with young done I really don't he's young and I think that comes across but I don't have an issue with that Because even still being young is not it's not an excuse for anything and we've got some older people who I mean Benny in is not not young Creflo dollars not young so but I thought I thought that It'd be good to have and I you know, it's funny I never got into the totality of what I was trying to say last night. I make I may cover that Sometimes here, but I want us to understand how this whole issue of salvation works So God is going to pay a debt that we can't pay He does so by his by Christ taking on flesh and dying in our stead And then all we have to do is place our faith or they had to do was place faith in what he in his atoning work in The Old Testament under the Old Covenant The same thing is true. He did not change it. He just changed the elements He gave us better elements instead of there being a worldly Priests who needed to have his sense of tone for instead of there being some ruined fallen scapegoat Instead of there being a sacrificial offering with tainted blood He gave us a better sacrifice with a better high priest With a better scapegoat a land that took away the sins permanently and with a sacrificial offering that paid the debt He did that Nothing changed except for the elements and the same requirement holds true believe We know the same requirement because Israel could not do the works to be saved. Just simply believe now What Israel did do is? They humbled themselves This is important guys when I'm getting ready to say Israel humbled themselves on or before the day of atonement They had to as a Bible to afflict themselves afflict their souls by by fasting and so forth They could only eat certain things and so they humbled themselves. They afflicted themselves and they came knowing that they needed their sins atoned for Remember that because we do the same thing now The problem is though they didn't stay they could not would not Stay in this state of humility. They got by side themselves their flesh kicked in And then even after having there since atoned for and being even being in right standing with God even even knowing that They would still go out and sin if they just could not obey. They were wayward Guess what? We are too and so what does God do? He remedies that one by Instead of us afflicting ourselves and humbling ourselves. He does so How does he do so through the Holy Spirit by giving us a regenerated heart our heart is now Changed and so before we place our faith in Christ as we place our faith in Christ Because we placed our faith in Christ We've got this new disposition that causes us to see our fallen cells And that's why we place our faith in Christ because we know we're horrible and can't do anything about it It's like the many the many millions of people who are stuck in prison Who are sorrowful that they're there and they wish they could do something about it go back and fix it But they can't however their sorrow is different. It's not a godly sorrow in many cases that I know for a fact It's a sorrow of man. I'm sorry I got caught, but there is some sorrow like I wish I could just do a different I wish I grew up a different way. I wish I wasn't out in the streets. I wish I I didn't lust after this I And the same with us And so we have an afflicted heart because it's been changed. We recognize that and you could always believe Remember guys, and I'm gonna cover this some more. You could always believe Belief was never the issue Are you with me? I mean this may sound crazy even under the old covenant Belief was never the issue Anybody can believe Jared I just said anybody can believe The problem is anybody can't stay believing Therein lies the problem Therein lies the problem matter of fact, let me do this. I hadn't intended on doing this But I'm gonna go ahead do it.  Why why why do we why do we do that new york the time in new york is not running any faster? Anyway Let me type this in guys, I'm sorry Uh, there it is. There it is Matthew 13 I just want I just want to read something And I corey type better type better. It's not that difficult to type corey. I know it's early in the morning But type better. It's not hard to spell Matthew.  I hate that this dog on software doesn't know I'm trying to spell Matthew Any other time the computer wants to do spell check and correct me? I'm trying to say this and it thinks I'm saying that but if it did anyway, anyway, I'm rambling on about this software and I can't use my My log off software because log off software you can put up one scripture I can I can fix the words got other scriptures, but the tabs are so much better on this one So anyway, but let's go to This particular parable that Jesus brings up about this sower of seed He said he spoke many things to them in parables behold a sower went out and to sow and as he sowed Some seeds fell on the road the birds came and ate them others fell on the rocky places Where they did not have much soil and immediately they sprang up because they had no depth of soil But when the sun had risen they were scorched now I don't want to read all of that because you guys have heard this parable before I want to go to the explanation. Let's go down to verse 10 and the disciples by the way and I said before the bible knows of no person No christian who is not a disciple The bible knows of no christian who does not have Jesus as lord The bible knows of no christian who is not constantly believing the bible knows of no christian who is not constantly following The bible knows of no christian who does not bear fruit The bible knows of no christian Who is not repentant the bible knows of no christian who has not been baptized in the holy spirit Which is why when you ask people who believe that no, we don't have to have to uh Demonstrate works and I asked them both last night Do you your yourself in fact show works that are produced by the holy spirit? Well, yeah, okay, then What's the it is are you a disciple? Yes, I am What are we arguing about? I'm not saying that you have to i'm saying that you will according to the spirit in you But that being the case I want to look at the explanation That jesus gives and I want you to pay attention to the words that were used by jesus. Are you ready? He says and the disciples came to him and said why do you speak to them in parables? And jesus says has been granted you to know the mysteries of the kingdom, but to them it has not been granted So he goes on to speak about it. He says in their case the prophecy of isa is being fulfilled I'm sorry.  Here it is verse 18 Here the parable of the sower now Okay, you guys I've been Sipping something a little too long or smoking something to say my words. These are jesus's words Just want to clarify that those are his words. Look what he says He says when anyone hears The word of the king the word of the kingdom and does not understand it The evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown as heart This is the one on whom the seed was sown beside the road the one on whom the seed was sown in rocky places This is the one who hears the word immediately receives it with joy yet has no firm root in in himself But it's only temporary and when affliction persecution arises because of the word immediately He falls away and the one on whom the seed was sown among the thorns This is the man who hears the word and the worry of the world And the sea fullness of wealth Choke the word out and it becomes unfruitful and the one on whom the seed was sown on good soil This is the man who hears the word and understands it. So now We've got people who hear it And seem to believe matter of fact, let me talk to you about this and hold on one second One more second Let me put another hold on one second. Give me one second guys All right. I'm sorry I'm sorry. I was I was fixing stuff on this computer. So now we've got people who will hear it And immediately after hearing it, they move away. They received it, but then move away What's the problem? They did the exact same thing as us, but there was nothing there was no depth of soil But with us It just so happened that it landed on good soil Now if you are of the persuasion that believes that God does the work first in you Um and has granted you to receive it Well, then I think we don't even there's really not a big discussion going further but We as believers understand that it is easy for anybody as a matter of fact as a matter of fact under the old covenant Many believed They believe what God has done and they accept it, but they just kept they had a way with heart What was the problem with them? They did not have the Holy Spirit in them There was nothing that was going to keep them. There was nothing that's going to hold them Nothing's going to move in them Y'all do realize there's a difference between having the Holy Spirit and not having the Holy Spirit I I would hope that as believers we recognize there's a huge difference And so what does he do now our heart has been regenerated Born again, it's a new And I can't get past what God said is going to happen As a result of that it was it again It's God says as a result of what he's going to do that he is going to cause us to walk And that was the point that was brought up and and there is no there is no real retort to it because it literally says That when he puts his spirit in us, let me just put in here He says I will put my spirit within you and then this where it is and I will Cause you to walk in my statutes Why that why that's a problem? I don't know Again, you're going to have to figure out what that means when he says to cause you to walk in my statutes I the Lord am going to give you a new heart Put my spirit in you And when I put my spirit in you Even if you believe even if you believe that the reason why the spirit is in you because You first place your faith in him or Your faith was a result of what he's doing that matter On this point. I don't care if you believe that faith or regeneration proceeds faith or regeneration Comes after faith. I don't care. We do know this according to this text when the holy spirit is put in you When the holy spirit is putting you look at verse 27 he says when I put my spirit within you And cause you to walk in my statutes And you will be careful to observe my ordinances It's not as though God wants to do stuff But then once we get saved once we get the holy spirit, you don't have to do it You don't have to live a certain way. You don't have to be holy. You don't have to be godly You don't have to speak a certain way. You don't have to love. You don't do any of these things It's not that It's after we are saved And so please stop saying this works based salvation. It's especially over here I want you to hear the truth of the scriptures when this when the spirit is in you after after after after after after After You receive the spirit after you were saved The spirit is working in you They don't Stephanie. They they they didn't Their issue was what do you mean by cause? Are you saying it makes you and I said, yeah, it literally make The word right here Let's put it back on the screen. This word for cause is the word for asa Look at the bottom left end corner. It means to do to cause to make Yeah, he's literally make you are you saying that we don't have free will I'm not saying anything I'm saying what the scriptures say you call it what you want to call you do have free will If that's how you want to look at you do have the ability to choose So there's god if god has the ability to choose and he chooses to cause you to walk What are you gonna do? Huh, but tell me what if god wants to literally turn you and push you out of the way. What are you going to do? Nothing Nothing, I think we get to get this this free will thing taken too far as well To think that yeah, I can choose I can choose to sit down I can choose to drink out of my Super awesome prison cup Or I can choose to drink out of my holy ghost anointed colts cup We're going to super bowl next year guys All those things I can choose. Yes and and Yeah, you know what I can go in a room and choose it. Well, she's not here, but uh, go slap my wife Not gonna be a good look. She might slap back But I can choose to do the wrong thing And they're gonna be there. I'm gonna suffer consequences But as I'm growing He's moving me. Oh by the way, do you know why god? Do you know why god leaves? He's not, you know, do you know why immediately all sin is not taken away? Miss fit king can't say anything about it. He says fly equals fly. Okay, so anything about it But you know why why they're still sending us How god uses the sin in us or why because he uses the sin in us, you know why you know why god You know why god still allows the sin in us because what could he do? He could just bam. It's gone Do you know what god does with that sin that's in us that we're working through? As we're working through that as we are getting as we're overcoming the sin And we don't and it's no longer having dominion over us Do you know whatever the sin that's bothering you whatever the issue is you still struggle with Do you know there's somebody else who's struggling with that who's not a believer who can look to you and see You know what tyra is struggling with this? I'm struggling with this. I see how she's I see what she's going through and and I see her I see her peace. I see her joy. I see her praise in god. And you know what? I can do it too I can do it too Now if you are someone out there that says that you can sin Without no matter what I you know, I want to live in sin I want to dance in sin the only difference is I say that I believe what wait a second. I got now we question Now we're gonna we're gonna get to some passages I want to I want to juxtapose three books I want to look at uh romans four I want to look at james too And I want to look at hebra's 11 You all would agree that if they at on face look like there's some sort of disagreement Then there's gotta be some sort of harmony And someone probably asked, you know, by the way, this shirt says whatever god said so Anyway, I want to I want to kind of Just supposed to put these passages together and let's see what they're saying Because could it be true that We are saved Whether we do works or not That part is true Is absolutely true. We are saved Whether we do no works or not Whether we do works now. I'm sorry a double negative. We are saved whether we have some good works or not And there are there's at least one example of someone being saved and not having the ability to do any works That obviously is the people across There you go, uh, um chest chant. That's the issue right there. That that's the part that that bothers me Uh, we can disagree without questioning someone's salvation. Now, some people give you an an an an opportunity To question their salvation if they say well, I believe that Jesus is is a way Uh, and I'm a christian. I also believe that Muhammad is a way Though I'm a christian I believe that, uh, Jesus lived a good life. He's not the son of god. He's not god He's he just he was a good man a good prophet Well, okay, well now we can now we can see Because we know what it means to be saved as a christian But you can't tell me, uh, all it takes is belief.  I'm telling you get saved by faith alone So I want to look at some passages. I want to look at some passages Romans 4 Says what then shall we say that Abraham our forefather our father? According to the flesh has found For if Abraham was justified by works He has something to boast about but not before God For what does the scripture say Abraham believed God and it was credited to him Righteousness or as righteousness now to the one who works His wage is not credited as a favor But as what is due but the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly His faith is worked. I mean as righteous So It's clear according to this passage If I'm I'm coming to the truth. Okay. Well, amen as long as I get there, huh? So he's clearly saying Abraham was not justified by his works. Abraham was justified by his faith Do we all agree with the text the way I'm explaining it? Is that you is that how you guys understand it? And I'll get you guys a question a second But I want I want to compare these in just a second I'm compare these and come to you guys But I want to ask a question though Do you all agree with my interpretation of Romans 4 thus far? That is stating that Abraham was not justified because of his works, but Abraham was justified because of his faith He was justified by faith. You all agree with with with how I'm interpreting that I hope so. Okay. Cool. Cool. Now Abraham Was justified because of his faith. Abraham was not justified because of his works Are you with me? Abraham was not justified because of his works But then we go to James 2 My brethren, I'm sorry go to verse 14. I'm in the wrong spot What uses it if it what use is it my brother if someone says he has faith but has no works Can that faith save him now? Let's go down and let's see what Uh-oh What he says by Abraham was not Abraham our father Justified by works when he offered up Isaac his sonly altar Wait a minute. You just say it Abraham I just want to make sure I'm reading this correct Um, let's let's pull up again verse 3 of Romans 4 What does the scripture say? Abraham believed God and it was credited him as I'm sorry verse 2 for if Abraham Was justified by works. He had something to boast about but not before God For what does the scripture say? Abraham believed God and it was accredited him as righteousness So his belief was what was credited him as righteousness not his works, but his faith He was justified by his Faith and it goes on to say now the one who works his wage is not accredited him as favor But is what is due but the one who does not work but believes in him who is justified Who justifies the ungodly his faith is credit. So you're justified according to this by your faith You are justified by your faith. You are justified by your faith. I'm going to James 2 He says was not our father Abraham Justified by his works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar Well, wait a second Cory that does seem like a clear contradiction. No, it's not Let me keep reading in James 2 and then there's a passage that really illuminates this And Abraham I'm sorry verse um verse 22 You see that faith that faith was working with his works and as a result of the works His faith was perfected. Okay. I think I see what you're saying when it says his works was perfected I mean his faith was perfected Not that his faith needed to be something better, but his faith was complete in other words The act of his faith or just the mere fact that he had faith Was shown or completed in what he did Again, if I truly believe that it's going to rain I might dress accordingly I'm not going to wash the car Okay, if I believe it's 110 degrees outside. I'm not wearing a coat My faith caused me to move in such a in such a way I believe I truly believe But to go out and say I believe it's hot outside and then put on Do they still even have corduroy or corduroy pants and a flannel shirt and a and a big eskimo coat? Very with me Look what he says And as a result of the works faith was perfected in that word right here for fake for Perfected from the greek word tellos, which is completed or to finish or to make perfect He says and the scriptures will feel which says and abraham believed god And it was reckoned to him as righteousness and he was called the friend of god You see that a man is justified by works not by faith alone That's kind of confusing though. Let's be honest Let's be honest that that can be kind of confusing that he was justified by faith and not by works I mean just by by works and not by faith alone, but John I mean paul says that he was justified by faith Remember I told you before that When they were trying are we sure that this book of james actually belongs in the canon? That was the discussion that was discussion back then Does james belong because it seemed like he's going against paul, but he's not he is not He's not he's really saying kind of what we've been trying to say go to herews 11 He said now faith Is the assurance of things hoped for? the conviction Of things not seen Eklako Eklako, I hate to know the the key the key in in greek. It's a hard word for me A hard letter, but this word literally means the proof the reproof the conviction The demonstration of your faith. He says now faith is the assurance of things hoped for The conviction of things not seen by it the men of old gain approved by what? What's the it? Well this faith that has this conviction By that the men by that The men of old gained approval Look what he says and I want to look at what he says about Abraham in particular go down to verse 8 of Hebrews 11 by faith Abraham when he was called He obeyed by going out to a place which he was to receive For an inheritance and he went out not knowing where he was going by faith He lived As an alien in the land of promise as in a foreign land dwelling in tents with isek and jake Fellow heirs of the same promise for he was looking for the city Which was which has foundations whose architect and builder is god So by faith. Oh, oh, let's remember his wife by faith Even sarah herself received the ability to conceive even beyond the proper time of life She since she considered him faithful who had promised so now Y'all know the story these are some old people old people We're not having kids matter of fact Maybe we're not even doing the stuff to have kids But their faith Caused them to to move Now I want to I want to again go back to Romans 4 What then shall we say about abraham our father according to the flesh has Has found for if abraham was justified by works He has something to boast about but not before god for what does the scripture say abraham believed god And it was counting him or credit and righteousness now to those who work His wages is not credited as favor, but as what is due but to the one who does not work But to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly his faith is credit as righteousness So now But what's the faith we're talking about? Well a couple things the fact that god told him and then he believed god And so he moved which is what he was living talking about and then he gives an example another example in james Where he was offering his son?  Okay god sure no thing no problem. No problem. I don't know what you're gonna Son, I don't know what god about to do Uh, I hope this is I hope you prayed up son But god is going to do something his faith is exemplified in what he did I'm not saying that what we do Makes us save or make us any more save our faith. I mean, I'm sorry our works our works make us save or even more More save our works don't show Or make us more save doesn't get us to heaven quicker or better. No It's just validating something in us Are you with me? A passage that was brought up That I have to also deal with Is where's that second Corinthians? Where's it at? I know I did I type it in here? Maybe I did not maybe I did not so what I'm going to do is Well, let me just type it here second Corinthians 13 5 And I misspelled that I keep doing this. I'm sorry if I get better typing Now let's see what he says because this was brought up by one of the gentlemen on last night about Second Corinthians 13 5 because the bible never tells us to look to ourselves to see if we are saved It never says works in that passage So when we go to there Paul in second Corinthians 13 Matter of fact, let's start in verse one. He says this is the time This is the third time I'm coming to you Every fact to be confirmed by the testimony of two or three witnesses. I have previously said when Present the second time and though now Absent I say in vast of those who have sinned in the past and to all the rest as well That if I come again, I will not spare anyone since you are speaking for proof Since you are speaking or seeking for proof Of the Christ who speaks in me And who is not weak toward you but mighty in you for indeed he was crucified because of weakness yet He lives because of the power of God for we also are weak in him yet He will live we will live with him because of the power God directed towards you So he's so he's offering some some proof and he's he's coming kind of you know in a in a pretty tough fashion If he could write in all caps, that's what he's doing He says test yourselves or examine yourselves to see if you are in the faith to see Examine yourselves to see if you are inside the faith. So when we say believe What do we mean? Well, you must be in the faith of the faith Are you with me? examine yourselves Or do you not recognize this about yourselves that Jesus Christ is in you Unless indeed you fail the test But I trust that you realize that we ourselves do not fail the test We pray now now we pray to God that you do Know wrong in the word for do Is the word the greek word for point a or what which means to do to work to make And so he says that I want you to make sure that you do not that you do not doing your own Making your own. I want you different things. I want you to do I don't want you to do the wrong things that you do no wrong that we ourselves may appear Approved But now look what he says but that you may not do what is right even though we may appear Unapproved for we can do nothing against the truth, but only for the truth. So his point is this I want you to do some things As because this is fitting of a godly person Even though you other folks might not see it or they might see it The goal is to to appear approved This goes back to what Jesus says let your light so shine That people will see your works and then glorify God and the bible's always talking about us doing these things Going and visiting the poor and so forth. You didn't feed me. You didn't close me You didn't visit me when I was in prison or when did I when did I not do those things? Well, when you didn't do it everybody else the same thing Are with me and he says that you only got a certain amount of time to get these things done to do some Things because night's coming and no man works while it's night. And so Yes, we are works is not a bad work Doing things that's not a bad thing that it's become to the point where it's if you hear the word works Ah, that guy's going to hell. He's a heretic. No, it's not it. It absolutely is not It's if you're doing it to be saved Are with me and so I hope that we can get past this one thing That because a person Speaks about sin that's rampant in someone's life is if sin is rampant in your life If you're not an overcomer If it's if it's if it's apparently obvious that you are serving another god If it's because again when I when I say hey is this guy saved Is is this guy say well? No, he's not saved because he believes something differently Well, what if this guy believed The first thing that he believed was that jesus christ died on the cross for him What if the first thing he believed was that jesus died on the cross for him?  I'm getting in now. It matters what he believes Because what he believes was he going to preach highs going to live and so forth. Okay. We might be saying the same thing why would it say Examine yourself to see if you are in the faith if one's saved always safe is true. Isn't this a point? No, no, it's Here's my question Let's say and this is what this is where james 5 19 comes in as well Let me put this on the screens where this asks your question My brother if anyone among you strays from the truth and one turns him back Let him know that that he who turns a sinner From the air of his ways will save his soul from death and will cover multiple sins When you go to church tomorrow or whenever you go to church or when you're around a bunch of folks that call themselves christian or even in this live chat Do we assume that everyone now we might assume that everyone might be saved? But do we really believe do we think that everybody that's in our church? Or at a church or that everyone that calls themselves the professors to be a christian. Do we believe that all of them actually are? No, we don't believe that We're pretty we're convinced that now. We don't know who We're not saying we know yet. Mary. She ain't Bob John. No, they ain't safe. We're not saying that We're saying that we know that somebody in this crowd of believers Isn't safe somebody So what do we say? The only way the only thing that the only Responsible godly thing to say is make sure Make sure the only way that you can warn someone is to warn them So you want to make sure that you do believe make sure that you do have christ some of you all don't some of you all think you do and so It's important which is why you see these passages that state that we need to test warn if impulses if indeed you are Because we're not like that The bible tells us or has these warnings But then the bible also describes what a believer is how a believer acts The bible goes through greatly the bible is constantly warning us to make sure we are these warning passages, but at the same time telling us What the picture of a believer is what a christian is Is god sovereign? Yes, god is sovereign rules with truth god is above listen rule number one in the class above all else god is sovereign Excellent excellent passes as a matter of fact make your calling and election sure You need to know You think you are you think you're called make sure Make sure And the bible is clear that there are these works that were prepared for us beforehand and so that we should walk in them We have been conformed to the image of what of his son and we are told to do the work of his son Are you with me We don't do the work of his son to become sons ourselves. We already are part of the family Is what we do as believers We love people we testify of christ the holy spirit is going to testify. By the way, let me go to the passage I want to go to this aphesians passage. Um Why is that there cori? I just I need to I need to clear up what I have Let me go to aphesians for Because one of the young brothers or one of the gentlemen brought this up And he said do not read the holy spirit of god by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you along with all malice Be kind to one another tender heart for giving each other now By the way, he he says don't read the holy spirit in the name some actions that we don't do as some actions That we should do because if I'm not going to be if I'm not going to be bitter not going to have wrath in me no anger The only way to show that is what open in my mouth move my hands It's not me sitting there being quiet Then he tells us to be kind to one another tender heart. Now Do we see all the things that someone who is saved is going to do? No, we mean it. I may not listen I have never in my life When I talk a chess chat last night, I've never in my life seen him do a godly work Although his daughter did send me a ticket to heaven That was so cool. I've there. I've never physically seen him do something good never For all we know i'm a pick on you chess champ for all we know Chess champ might be engaged in witchcraft. He might have have a pot on right now Stirring it and got he's got rabbit foot's in there. He's got uh people's hair in there He's got pictures he's throwing in there. He might be casting spell for all we know while while moderating channel for all we know for all we know I may never see your good works. You may never see mine. That means I don't have any how many they kept asking Well, how many good works are you supposed to have? I don't know who knows god knows God and oh by the way god knows if they're truly good Anyone can do something nice or good in our eyes, but there's none good But the actual good works are by our motives and our motives are Pushed precipitated by the holy spirit. So when we do something to magnify god, it is a good work. It gives glory to him Doing something good. I can do the exact same thing that you do But the motivation is different and so my motivation is to to pump me up Your motivation is to pump god up the exact same thing or my work wasn't a good work It may look like it, but god knows god is the one again. That's why that's why I said I don't know I can't judge your fruit Nor can you judge mine. You have no idea Have no idea, but I know who does Two people who knows how good or how bad you are two people you and god Which is why god says examine yourself because when you get to me when the time comes for me to come examine you to judge you Oh boy so No, that that passage is not is not going against it It's it's makes you that you just prove it that you understand that you are who you say you are That's all isn't the wrong with that And if the whole because the question has got to be in the end guys the question has got to be the question has got to be If you have the holy spirit My lord, what does the holy spirit do? If you have the whole I want someone who tells me that core you're talking too much about works Fine. Tell me if you're saving you have the holy spirit. What does he do in you? Nothing she he holy spirit what you're doing nothing just chilling like like brother man from from fifth floor Just chilling. I'm just just hanging out doing absolutely nothing seeing what you're gonna do Seeing what you're gonna do Doggonic Baptist uh 1689 Baptist and I saw you guys making fun of me saying dog on it. I gotta say dog on it Who was I think was detox or monkey move one of you guys was making fun? I gotta say dog on it.  I do because that's what it is. He conforms us He conforms to do what to nothing he does Listen, are we supposed to share the share the gospel? Yeah, we are we're supposed to share the gospel We are literally commanded to share the gospel It's a command given to us and if you don't you are Jesus says good for nothing worthless good for nothing So when you share the gospel is that is that a good work? Sure it is Sure it is now. Does that mean that you're safe? No, because there are people that can share the gospel who aren't safe We're not talking about them. We're talking about you Are you with me He's a chocolate chip, please All right Let me go ahead and again. Let me remind you guys what the what the moderators are saying no caps, please No caps, please No cap and no caps since I'm I'm trying to get hip and Get up with the modern vernacular no cap That means line, right? So no cap and no caps no capitalized letters Let me answer some of these questions by the way Do you believe that a born-again believer can live in sin and still go to heaven? I think they can though consequences will be negative the the 64 thousand dollar question is What do we mean by live in sin? well The bible kind of gives us an indication when we say this of the person who's living in sin the word poyate Which is i'm doing and it's it's a it's a it's a it's a continuation So I this is what I do It's a I I sin cuss matter of fact. I sin Cuz i'm safe I sin cuss i'm saved And so there's no repercussion. Let me go and do what i'm gonna do Well, what does your heart tell you then if if you want to See if you one thing Paul gives us this this this this contrast I struggle The struggle is I want to do good, but I don't I want to stop doing bad, but I keep doing it Well, what do we know? There's a struggle Paul is not saying I want to do bad therefore I do it. I don't want to do good and therefore I don't that's not what he's saying I want to do good, but I don't there's I want to do good Compared to I don't want to do bad, but yeah, I still do If you are doing bad because you want to do bad that might be an indication of your heart Examine and see if you are of the faith you believe believe what what believe one There's a punishment from a mighty god that's coming But two I love him. I'm in the faith and I and I have the spirit in me and so he's going to move in me Verify that If you always question your salvation, are you truly safe? No, I don't know matter of fact It might be healthy. I don't know The bible doesn't say that didn't say that us questioning it, but it does say to examine Of if we are of the faith The reason why I think now I'm just this is me that I think a person might want to question If they are saved and I've seen this a lot Because they might have been engaged in something they've done something they just felt bad about it There was this sorrow over them Because they already have a repentant heart and when they do the things that like paul That bothers Or as he says quenches or suppresses the word for grief or quench in Ephesians 4 30 It suppresses the holy spirit The holy spirit wants to move in you once it testify and bring about the goodness of the lord evidence in you And you don't do it that suppresses what the holy spirit is trying to do And when you do that it should grieve you The holy spirit is not going to sit around there just in your body No no no harm no foul no is he's like a caged line that's rattling around something's gonna bother you Why because sin bothers god and his spirit is in you? And so no I think matter of fact If you if if you are struggling with something then maybe you should at some point time. Am I really safe? Have a what what's wrong with me lord and it may it's hey could be simply that there's a struggle With me or maybe guess what lord forbid you may not be safe The worst thing in the world is to not be saved and to never question whether you're not safe That's horrible that how horrible would it be to Think you're safe and know everything about the scriptures and not be are there some people who are not saved Because I would ask this question if there's a person out there who thinks they're saved There are people who think they're safe We everybody agrees that whether you're in the ultra free grace or the ultra lordship salvation side or in between Everybody agrees that there are people out there who think that they're saved and are not How would that so you ask that person to to reconcile that? So if it's you let's let's pretend like I'm bad thought but let's pretend like it's you If you're that person, how will you know? Well, you better check out something you gotta you gotta investigate something about you And how do you know I'm really of this faith? Already covered that question. Okay Can a true Christian Convert or leave the faith? Do they have the free will to do so? It's not One it's not they don't have the will to do so. They don't have the desire to do so Jesus describes what a sheep does Sheep follow and it's continuous. This is what sheep do. Sheep keep believing We keep believing we keep following If there's something that's going to cause us to convert to something else, that's a different voice A stranger's voice the bible says that we will Flee the stranger's voice. We don't recognize it. Don't like it. Just be told run away and flee from that stranger's voice So the no, we don't we don't convert or deconvert or deconstruct or any of those things a true christian will not a true christian will endure This is kind of the same vein So I'm going to ask the bottom party if the person could not walk away from the faith Then would it limit our free will two things about that one? What if it did?  Why why don't you why why? Well, is there something that's kind of holding you? That has he changed you if any man being christ his new creature oath is bad What does that mean? I think he's done. He's doing something in you Again the holy spirit in us a court according to god says that he will cause he will make You walk in his teachings perfectly. No And so what if god Changed you You can say against your will however Now if you're by if you are bothered by the fact that god has done something to keep you from walking away Something's wrong with you. I'm just Can I just take it for real? Let's can we just be honest Something's wrong with you if you are mad that god has took away your will to want to leave him Something is absolutely wrong upstairs. Y'all call the doctor I don't know why this song came in my head that doctor doctor Give me the news. I got a bad case of loving you We should make a christian song out of that We should make a christian song some of you young folks like what is he talking about? That's because you're under 40 Doctor doctor I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but if you if you got a problem with being kept something's wrong with you You need you might want to like paul and say and go back and check yourself Because because you want to do the opposite like paul said I want to do the wrong thing Cut me up. I'm by the way. I don't know what's happened here in the dfw area But it's like all of the bad drivers in america has decided to they have decided to move to here They have I see a guy over in the far left lane Spread over four or five lanes over to here and he ducks and dies in between these semis and like what's is going on What is going on This all the bad and so when they do this like you want you know what you want to do when they cut you off I get it. I see I understand some of these folks road races like this guy this guy's a serial killer I got to take him out There's some bad drivers here horrible drivers here, but you can't do what you want to do something Thank god that there's something in you The holy spirit who he's the one the bible says I've got this conference that he That began a good work in you Is going to complete he didn't say I thank god that you are the bible doesn't call us faithful Have you ever noticed that The bible we're supposed to believe have faith, but he doesn't call us faithful Why is that? Why didn't the bible call us faithful? Well, the reason why it's because you're not it'd be a lie if you did Do you believe Cory? Do you believe Calvinists are safe? We got this thing Yeah, I believe Calvinists are safe if they place their faith in Christ. Y'all okay the Calvinists the Armenian The now the provisionist the dispensational If Believe you can lose your salvation believe you cannot lose your salvation Those that believe in tongues those that don't those that believe in the gifts those that don't There's only one question on the floor Have you placed your faith in Christ? Do you have the sun? If you have the sun and now you're trying to figure out how this whole stuff works and fits together That's secondary. Do you have the sun? If you have the sun, what are you free indeed? So, yeah Sure Charismatics, there are carousel pentacostal charismatics who are safe. Uh-oh. I'm about to upset some people I'm about to upset them. There's some folks that that are in a catholic church That are safe Now they don't know all the tenets of Catholicism. It's a lot of Catholics who don't I don't know what's happened with with Um, no, I'm sorry. I just got a text from a pastor Uh, I don't know what I don't know what these folks are doing. What's up with these priests? What's up with this confession? I don't know about that, but I do know that Jesus loves me Now what's going to happen over time as they grow? I'm not I don't I don't get I don't Catholic guy who stays in Catholic church because he uses he tries to evangelize the other Catholics so You think I can't sing listen You you listen Let me tune up real quick. I'm gonna shoot No, I'm just kidding. I can't sing. I can't sing I used to be able to and my mother y'all know my mother was was was uh Going to go sing some of y'all don't know this but going to go sing for mary wells But my my um, he said we have that fandom traffic No, what we have what we have uh germany. We got that dallas cowboy traffic Don't know what they're doing Yes, buddy But my mother was gonna sing for mary wells and my grandmother wouldn't let her because she said they ain't singing For the lord so now you can't sing I'm glad she didn't go because then she would went to detroit and never would have met my daddy Anyway Let me go back to these questions Why do I don't know I don't know I don't know and again Jesus is clear what sheep which are christian are going to do She are not going to walk away. They're just not Babies that die as babies in heaven and in the new heaven and the new earth Will they stay babies or will they be aged and here's what we don't know Same when when you're pregnant woman dies, so no The you know, and I kind of joke around about this about the sixth I don't know if y'all notice this though the bigger the the more you type the bigger your picture gets on the screen the less you type the smaller is that just um, but The question is when we have these glorified bodies, what at what age or stage? I don't know. I imagine there's some sort of mature spiritual stage. I have no idea This is one of those things that we have to say I don't know because the bible didn't tell us and because the bible didn't tell us we just say I don't know Amen, whatever it is Whatever it is. I wouldn't mind being in heaven and looking like living like my little three-year-old grandson He's got a life He has a wonderful life A bad day is not watching enough coco melon or eating graham crackers He does this thing where where uh, uh, if his parents aren't around Especially he does my wife. She's a sucker for this. He'll come and ask. Can I have some graham crackers? And guess what she gives? She gave she gave this boy She wouldn't do it to our kids a little bit. She gave him almost a whole pack of graham crackers He's got a fool up, but but wouldn't that be cool that that's heaven, right? We don't know we we simply do not know Uh, how it's going to be Please explain Let me look over here so my eyes can see better. Please explain what the lord jesus meant by eating his flesh and drinking his blood Well, he didn't mean physically And it does not be the catholic view that The when we eat the bread and drink that it literally becomes Spiritually speak not especially, but it's supernatural becomes his flesh and it's supernatural becomes his blood. No, it didn't mean that either It is us when we By the way, the communion is us recognizing what happened to his flesh and blood as a result of us Which is why he says when you do so And you do it in an unworthy fashion you heat damnation yourself because you know full wealth This is about and it's like I'm just eating drink. I don't care But all he's simply saying is to consume it and not in a physical sense But in the spirit of sense that I recognize I take in what he's done in the flesh the beating that he took The bruising and the shedding of the blood Which is why the blood is so necessary. It's so necessary one that he came in the flesh and died to pay a ransom That he didn't just he didn't just send a vial or a bottle or a case of of human blood Perfect, but he didn't know he had the container which was his body And the blood that was shared and it's for us to not all he's trying to get across is that Now he says it in the way that these jews are like, what in the world are you talking about? Because remember he said that having eyes they will not see and having ears They will not hear so we'll say it to them to our nether. Oh, that's what you meant. Okay So but that that's all that meant He says as a continuationist show me one time in the scripture Where a believer walked away from the faith or one believer who didn't have works Now you gotta remember I am a a biblical continuation I'm not like the continuations today And so maybe maybe there's there's a little bit misunderstanding and how you see me or how I've said I'm a continuation I'm a a biblical continuationist. What does that mean guys? That means that I believe the lord moves It continually the same way did then If there is some sort of manifestation of the spirit it's going to look just like it did now We don't really see that now. They do we we don't really see that nowadays when someone says they profit they have to get the prophecy Your prophecy doesn't look like their prophecy in the bible Your hands laying on the hands and healing that look like theirs your tongues doesn't sound like theirs So if we're going to hold to the fact that god still moving I do believe he does he does to move or if he may want to Because he never said he's going to stop And I don't believe 1st Corinthians 13 is saying so and I didn't have to say so I can I can I'll judge a prophet Be false or not. I'll judge him the same way that I will judge a preacher by the scripture Wait a minute.  Well, let's go to the scriptures No, sir, you're either the liar or you're just misunderstanding the scriptures Same standard not all spirits are of god. So test them how by the scriptures By the way, let me say this and I'll you know what I'm going to end up making this into An actual video maybe maybe be a short but I want to hear this I want you guys to hear this because this is true You hear a lot of people saying that you should not despise prophecy The reason why they say so is because They want to legitimize their false or vague prophecies The bible says do not despise prophecy. The bible never says do not despise false prophecy We despise false prophecy. We despise it as much as he does. The bible says us to not despise actual revelation Let's remember the word prophecy is revelation. So we're not going to despise that We're going to look and make sure and test and see if it's true False prophecy. We despise.  Amen So that being stated, let's go to some more questions What causes Some people to believe that just because we are saved by faith to believe that this Gives us a license to sin even though the bible is clear I can't speak for everyone. What I can say is this I have seen some people Who have held to this who just did not live a godly life And for them that might have that that's their justification to feel that way that You can't judge me Only god can judge me Who are you? I'm not I'm not judging you. I'm just saying What the word says and that might be it that because I know some people who now I know people who who believe this way who also live godly lives as well as far as I can tell I know some people who say this and as far as everybody can tell lives an ungodly life And so sometimes that might be the reason it's not the only reason that obviously not there's some folk who Who legitimately love the lord? And I think that they just want they they're really careful Maybe their ear is tuned sensitively. Maybe it's tuned too high To making sure that someone's not teaching a work space gospel The bible speaks that what we do is we confuse it to we think that teaching works after salvation Is the same as teaching works before salvation when it's not the bible does not speak The bible not wants not one speaks of doing works It speaks of doing works to get salvation and to keep salvation But never speaks about doing the good things doing the right things doing godlike things never does and so I I really don't know Does romans 11 teach that all israel? I'm sorry How all nations are saved No No, uh, romans 11 romans 9 10 11 in particular are there to speak about what god is going to do with israel And even then not all of israel not all of israel will be saved But he says that when the fullness of the gentiles has come there's a stupid giving over over israel right now And there's a partial harding that has come and that will go away when the fullness of the gentiles has come What that means is since god has is dealing with is i mean not Dealing with the world the gentile world right now. He will turn his attention back to israel He says that israel will never cease to be a nation before him And so as paul is trying to say he's bothered that israel is not coming to faith in christ at this time as he's writing romans Not like the gentiles are And he's grieved that his countrymen his people of the flesh the jews the israelites that they're not coming To christ, but he says that he's not forgotten him and he will but right now He's dealing with the fullness of this is the time where we would call the time of the gentiles when that's done Then he deals with him. That's why I believe and I'll take a little stance on this Then when he's speaking of in these 70 week prophecies that the first 69 are fulfilled the first 69 led up to the cross Perfectly from a time of the building of the wall up till the cross 69 sevens 69 times seven years leads up to the cross There's one set of sevens that he speaks of where there's going to be this time of this great tribulation and that is As he says it is clear in jeremiah is clear in daniel That he is going and as he kills whether he's going to provoke the house of israel the house of judo And that's what that last seven is going to be. That's how I read that and so paul is reiterating that when this When this time is up He's going to save them and how is he going to save them the same way he saves us By by us having faith in him and his focus is primarily israel, but there will be gentiles that will be saved as well through that now All of them are going to be saved. No, he says not all of those only those who place their faith in christ Okay, what is the way to approach dine's view of salvation? I've debated dine numerous times and wasn't able to get through to him about his disdain towards works in general Well, dine is young Let's just keep it real. He's young and so sometimes it is it is sometimes hard talking to someone you can't Some things are not for you to fix. I've come to the realization that I am not going to always convince somebody And so that's good enough for me. It's good enough for me to know that Hey, I've said it just like with your children. How many you all have children? And you tell them something And they don't hear it and you do your best Sometimes It's not for you to teach them. Sometimes it's for the world to teach them You some of you all have sons Who don't like to wash up and take bath? You tell them how you don't know what they're thinking. Okay, fine.   He comes back on now. He he can't take enough showers So some sometimes the world sometimes the lord that sometimes we allow for the lord to do the growing Are you with me? And so with with him What he said himself he's only been saved seven months Now he doesn't know how that sounds to You might not want to be so it's nothing that Ronald having opinions But you might not want to be so dogmatic at seven months in Okay, you might not want to be so dogmatic, which is why I don't I don't have a problem with him I really don't if he were to come out and blast me on a video. Okay Amen, brother. Amen young brother And I have to remember that he is he is he's young His name is young dining, but but even more than that. He's only been saved for seven months So guess what I have to give him? I've got to give him the ability the grace to say he's going to grow at some point time That well, yeah, listen, the only safe catholic is an ex catholic. What if they're on their way out? What if they're there now? They believe if a if a catholic believes that jesus christ died on the cross for them They place their faith in him.  Don't know They may be working through they're trying to figure things out their mother goes there their grand their grandmother goes there They love the church. They love the people there But man, this ain't working. I don't I don't get what you guys are saying help me and so it may take some time It may take some time All right, more questions more questions Yes, there is a biblical mandate a biblical mandate is that we're supposed to be holy.  We are separated. So we are to conduct ourselves We are to work the works of christ And we are to do what he has called us to do Paul says that the fear of the lord as well as the love both of those things compel us to share the gospel He writes the church at grint that and so so first foremost We are to magnify him as often as we can we are told to confess him before men And if you do not confess him if you are ashamed of him, he'll be ashamed of you And so yet there are some things that we are absolutely commanded to do There's a biblical behavior that is there and it is called holiness Sometimes we forget it now. We've covered this couple of times. We forget about that word We are to be holy. Holiness is a thing. I don't know why we now There are some groups that take holiness to a different level You can't wear red. You can't wear lipstick. You can't no no no What we're talking about is a life that is set apart and committed to god And what does that going back again the holy spirit in us? No, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right robin It was funny about that There was some there was a there was a group of people who were this true story Who were trying to go out and they wanted, you know, we should be out witnessing We should be sharing the gospel And they decided let's go to the strip club to share the gospel No, not wise One of the guys Came back and kind of repent and say after after some things happened That the main motivation was that you know what I struggled there I struggled with this and so I want to go there and kind of conquer it But at the same time I can see some stuff Well, no, no, no We also should be wise too. We also should be wise Let's go um Can we please pray for you? Amen, what lord whatever's happening in his life? We don't know the issue with the household But you do god would you govern that household would you bless it household and more than anything else? Get glory in what you do through them and in them. We pray this in your wonderful son's name. Amen So I was a Calvinist. I'm sorry. I was a Christian For seven years in church got hurt Ended up leaving long story short years later. I'm here and struggling but still believe in the word But I'm not in church Listen, I can't speak to the particulars because I don't know the particulars Um, but I think that maybe the fact that it could be the fact that your back is because that you you you were a Christian You may have left the building that happens Peter walked away for a couple days some folks walked away for a couple months a couple years They didn't they they they didn't leave the faith though. There's some struggling and god is working some things out in them That happens a lot Now it also could be that maybe you work. I'm not not you but maybe you were not a christian to begin with But there's something going on in you. I don't know But the main thing is is the mere fact that you know, you're struggling. You got an issue Uh, but you are longing for the lord to work in that that's a good thing That's a good thing. Amen Have I heard about the former christian rapper who now denounces the christian faith called Fanatic and it's uh, I don't know anything about him I only know of A couple christian rappers. I've heard the name of cray I may have even only heard one or two. So if you if you played a cray song, I would know I wouldn't know it. I wouldn't know it if you played, um I don't even know who the christian rappers are out there now to be honest. So I Stopped my thing So I don't I don't know what it what what he wasn't a christian That's what he wasn't He wasn't a christian Can you check out the word or check out loop 1426 the word disciple in greek? Do you need to be a disciple to be saved? The word disciple in greek is is is a follower a student Um by an understudy Matter of fact, there's another word that also is kind of a cousin of it This word is memetai memetai This is where we get the word to imitate Paul says imitate me as I am take is I would take imitate christ first Corinthians 14 16 you get Uh first Corinthians 11 1 Ephesians 5 1 1 1 6 and so A disciple or an imitator we are mimicking imitating. We're following your pupils were students of Of christ, which is why they called them christians because this this is The word is not there, but the point of it is the essence of these that these are followers of christ These are disciples of christ. Are you with me? And so that's that's that's what disciple is the the greek word is uh, mathetase Which you would you know, I haven't checked it out, but I wonder if that if that's derived from math I don't think so, but uh A mathetase is someone who is a disciple a follower A pupil a student And so does the bible know of anyone who is not a student? Well Jesus or and the bible Will say the same things different ways to kind of give those who might not get it this way that way Kind of like we do it. It is it's a 15 till A quarter till It's 345 right just i'm just throwing out numbers, right? They i'm saying the same thing Just different ways and so he says that we should repent He said that we should be baptized That we should believe That we should be disciples remember the last thing the one of the last things he said to his disciples was Go into all the nations Making disciples baptizing them in the name of the father and holy spirit Well, he didn't say do two different things and he didn't say to do something different than what he said before He's saying the same thing just this way Again, you cannot be a follower of christ You can't be in christ and not a follower of years That i love the lord so much, but i'm going this way. He's going that way, but i'm over here The bible knows of no such thing Um, yeah, you you must be one and again the question is going to beat anyone that disagrees. Uh, are you a disciple? And i'll say well, yeah, i'm a disciple sure i am Please discuss or do a video on second peter 220 i have done a video on it, but let's go to it right now Let's go to second peter 220 For if after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the lord and savior jesus christ They are again entangled in them And are overcome and the last thing has become worse for them than the first day Let's keep reading he says it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness but That's another way of righteousness Then having known it to turn away from the holy commandment handed to them it has happened to them According to the true proverb here it is because true proverb says that a dog returns to his own vomit And a sal after washing returns to his wobbling in the mire And so the point of this passage is to say that there are people listen There are people that will come to Hear the word of god. They'll understand what it says It kind of makes sense and then departs. This is the one the one of the concerns that I have for a person like like Jordan Peterson who seems to acknowledge what the bible is saying, but he doesn't seem to have made an actual Confession of faith in that regard. He's still kind of struggling with it And so if he decides, you know what? I've thought about this enough and I think what i'm going to do is go to something else He would be a kind of a person I mean, I'm going to say that's what's going to happen to him, but he would be the person like that that's described here Because what does he say in verse 22?  He said this is a true proverb that a dog will return This is what he is Okay, and so the point is and The point is just that now he's speaking also of these people in particular these false prophets These evil wicked people who know and even pervert the gospel. He says that these are Springs without waters so Or some verse may say clouds without water So, uh, that's what that passage is about Let me go over a few more No, first Peter 3 21 does not teach that baptism is necessary. It just says that there's an antetype antituple A symbolism Namely baptism that saves and he says not the removal of filth from flesh, but This baptism is an answer of good consciousness towards God And so was he speaking of well the only thing that's left to be spoken of would be the the holy spirit this holy spirit baptism remember John is running around the countryside saying repent and be baptized and then he says I baptized you in water but there's one coming after me who's going to baptize you in the holy spirit He's contrasting the two So what saves you is what he's speaking about that Jesus the baptism that Jesus is going to bring about What software am I using I am using according to Bible software Okay, I'm gonna do a couple more questions because then And someone brought up this issue Hold on what? Did you I won't did you come? Did you address Don's comment about how much sun do you have? Or how much sin do you have to do to practice in?  It's like they can't comprehend easily. Yeah, I I think I did there is no amount of sin That means that you're practicing sin The practicing has to do with a desire a wanting a willfulness. This is what I want a willful lifestyle of sinning How much is that doesn't know if I am a willful murderer I Mean murders do I have to commit to be a willful murderer? I think one About two I didn't live all I didn't I didn't live an entire lifestyle of a matter of fact serial killers They they don't their whole day is not I'm killing somebody today. I'm getting somebody tomorrow. Matter of fact I got 20 more people y'all hurry up. I gotta I gotta be somewhere in five minutes. I got some mind Let's get no But they're willfully doing so. This is their lifestyle They are intentionally doing so and so They do that more than someone might Get angry the person to get angry isn't isn't doesn't have a willful lifestyle of being angry But the person gets angry does it a whole lot more than the person who's a willful murderer We don't know the number. That's not the point. The point is is going to be the intentions behind it And now the person that that that is a practicing Christian Which ought to be a term now a practicing Christian How many good works do you have to do a week? We don't count that either We don't count that either as a matter of fact. I don't look to count your good works Nor should nor should you look to count mine?  Yes a few days ago I did something to my back a few days ago and man Uh, it caused it may have been a previous workout in my back to start spasming Who are Christians say according to the five solos of the Protestant Reformation? No Christians are saved This is why this is how Christians are saved And by the way, this might be a good place to kind of cap off Christians We should view salvation Not from our lens and from our eyes Um Okay, let me type it in. Um, hold on Wait a second Am I typing this I'm trying to okay. Hold on. I'm trying to Does that help? Okay, your second. Hold on. Your second comment before I go to my point um I did hold on practices sin is to stay in the old man I did go out and get drunk every week now. I don't people were gay But are not now I I did look at porn but not now that is how you don't practice it yet now And we we are careful to say that because a person doesn't do those things that and also make them save either What makes you save is the fact that you do have the lord living in you the the spirit of god in you That's what makes you say um, and That happens and let me go to this as a result Matter of fact, let's do this. Let's look at I said before looking at salvation from god's standpoint not ours What the requirement of salvation is from god standpoint From god standpoint um This is the old. What is she? Hold on.  She said she had she had to go do some stuff with some students today, but If we look at salvation from his standpoint not ours What's the requirement because the reason why The reason why Let me let me uh, let me fix this real quick. Let me go ahead and uh, you know, I'm not even banning.  Mahler. I don't know why you do this thing Um where we are clearly in disagreement And you keep showing up to say you disagree Who does that? You keep showing up say I disagree. Cory's wrong. Cory. Why? That that's fine That's fine. So we look at salvation from god standpoint. God is the one that will let us in or not How this works is because we have this debt that's old God determines what the debt will be paid. The debt is blood Jesus christ pays blood down under the old covenant. It was the same way Blood paid for our atonement Blood did that Whose blood? Well at that time it was the blood of bulls and goats. It was a sin offering a perpetuation There was also this scapegoat who would the sins are pronounced on the head of this This lamb the scapegoat and sent away and the act was performed the ceremony was performed by a priest The priest represented the people To god now now We have the same thing A priest however who does not only represent us To god but represents god to us. Why because he is god Next we have a better scapegoat a better lamb who takes away the sins of the world permanently Then we have A better sacrifice a better perpetuation And so just like under the old covenant system of atonement The new atonement this atonement is simply the same Faith in a better sacrifice mediated by a better high priest who in fact is god And except for the conditions there the result would be Temporal salvation where this has to be done year after year after year the atonement stated if you are justified by that atonement You are justified by what the atonement set out to do the atonement set out to justify you put you in right standing for one year This atonement sets out to justify you put you in right standing forever And so if you believe that It doesn't matter if you are reformed or if you're not i'm not reformed Matter of fact one of the reasons why i'm not reformed is because I hold to a different view of israel Versus the church. I believe that the church is not the new israel Uh being reformed necessarily means that the church Is the new israel or in some sort of way replacing israel that which is not a problem with you being reformed I don't understand the differences or whatever But it matter if you reform if you're not if you are a minion if you're countless if you're dispensational If you are uh tongue cocking foot stomping that matter Have you trust it in the perpetuation that christ has made If that's the case then the debt that is owed according to paul has been cancelled And the bill of the debt has been nailed to the cross Are with me Thank you again for uh for the super chat Interrupt one six five I can't lean forward because i've i've got this thing on my back Got this thing on my back and so I can lean forward but it kind of comes off No Thank you tony tony's coffee house Thank you Um, but I have got so there it is jesus jesus uh lover 122 And what did you do? Jesus paid it all Not 99% jesus 1% us Yeah, you're right. Yeah, jesus paid it all. I I agree I agree. I hope no one thinks that that's what i'm saying because I don't Uh star boy smith. You're absolutely right I'm gonna try to tell us how to live and that see there the the issue is that when you when you Pigeon hole because sometimes we do to ourselves when you pigeonhole yourself into a particular camp Now you're tied to all the all the beliefs of that particular camp There are some I'll I'll never forget that I was listening to a discussion between Layton flowers and a person who is is a Calvinist And I was like this is the the point that the particular Calvinist was making Um, it was he even came back and admit that he could not overcome this argument well He thought this and thought that but because this is what they believe but sometimes you pigeonhole yourself into a point where okay Well, how do I remember the doctrines of man are just that And so you got to be open to say, you know what I could be wrong or we could be wrong or this doctrinal stands Can't be wrong the west minister confessional faith the london battle confessional Battle confessional faith or any other professional faith that you may have at a particular seminary church Doesn't matter. It's the best that these men thought and felt Um as it pertains to the bible, but it could be wrong And so that's why I would say do not call yourself this or that I think the best thing that you can do is to adhere to a particular hermeneutic figure out what your hermeneutic is And be consistent and if that Um hermeneutic does not allow for you to be consistent. Well, then You might want to change some things I think if you're consistent in the way that you read the scripture in genesis All the way through revelation a lot of the things will be fixed It's like we can any crazy how we can all read a novel. We can all watch a movie And there are sections of it where things kind of put together and we all come to the same conclusion But with this well because we read it differently We we read it in a way that it's not how we read anything else and god is not trying to get you to He's not trying to fool you You didn't he doesn't think that you are intelligent enough or smart enough or wise enough to look at or go through And kind of spiritualize and look for the deeper hidden meanings. He didn't he didn't think that about you He he is not that impressed with you. Thank you Um, uh, metine. Am I saying that first thing right metine brother Rodriguez? I hope I'm saying your first name, right? That's all that. Okay. Okay So anyway guys um It is time for me to get out. I've got to do something else later on this afternoon Hey man, hey, I got listen. I need to I need to put this on the screen. I need to put that on the screen Go cowboys go back home Yeah, go back home anyway guys, um Oh, by the way, and I never got to flesh this out yesterday Not like I wanted to let me just say this so we can go ahead and I never got to flesh this out because when I brought the other two guys on It really kind of stopped what I was trying to get across The main point that I was trying to get across and I said about him really kind of covered enough I'm not getting covered enough now is Uh, the fights that we fight the people that we fight the people that we choose to treat like they are enemies Alan par is not your enemy Young don is not your enemy John mccrae is not your enemy ruse law is not your enemy. I'm not your enemy. Listen. Hey mauler mauler is not my enemy No, no, no, no, no, no. We're not enemies Now there are some people who are enemies of the gospel now There might be someone that's enemies to understanding the way you see the scriptures That's different But as long as you preach that crisis crucified that you must put your faith in him You're not an enemy There are some out there that are true rules who are trying to decimate the body whether they're trying to do so intentionally or unintentionally Yeah, the bitty hands of the world He's an enemy Creflo dollar without question Without question Jesse the planets without question. There are actual true enemies out there The low lovy allies enemy Enemy when you hear half of the blasphemy stuff that this man says He is the the new black african import Uh in the model of jesse the planets You look at him and bitty, bitty him.  You're doing this harm. You're doing harm to the body Anybody who names the name of Christ And you act you you may say I don't hate him, but you act like it You might not be saved yourself Because john is clear if you say you love me and hate your brother Now we got a problem there We have our problem there I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I did say jessie deplets not jessie deplets. He is an immigrant He's a he's an immigrant from New Orleans from Louisiana. No, I meant benny him. I'm sorry. You're right You're right. I meant I meant benny him I get my old uh heretic white silver-haired guys confused sometimes He's certainly He's a foreigner Anyway Uh, no, we don't take advantage of free grace.  It's gonna be a lot of people in heaven Who on this side of heaven had some different views? Have some different views have the same sort of grace towards them that god had you towards you and allowing you to come to christ Have that same sort of grace and then we can do some awesome things The problem is that we fight each other instead of fighting the wolves We eat you fight alan par Worse than you fight Benny him It's a problem That's a huge problem And so let's love even the people that disagree as long as they place their uh their faith in christ There are brothers because he's our father. Amen