The next hydraulic turbine that we are going to look at is the Pelton deal. You may recall that we have already discussed this in the introductory part of the lecture. So let us quickly review what we discussed and move on to learn more about this device and also do some calculations involving the machine. So the Pelton wheel has a runner on which are mounted the buckets or the buckets are actually shaped in the form of a cow and the water from the nozzle or the water jet from the nozzle hits the buckets and the buckets actually turn the water around almost through 180 degrees and the resulting change in momentum on the water imparts force on the buckets and hence the runner and turns it around. This is coupled to an electric generator which is used for generating electricity. Now the water from the dam reservoir is brought to a penstock and then the penstock terminates in a nozzle. So the gravity head that is available in the reservoir is converted entirely into kinetic energy of the water and the flow rate through the nozzle is regulated by means of a sphere which looks like this. So by moving the sphere in or out the flow rate may be decreased or increased. This is not the best way to regulate the flow rate because the losses can be quite high especially at low flow rates. So we will look at much more efficient forms of controlling the flow rate in the Pelton wheel in the next slide. The other important thing to be noticed in contrast to the Francis and the Kaplan turbine is that in the Pelton wheel the pressure remains constant. So when the water comes out of the nozzle it comes out of atmospheric pressure but at high speed and hence the entire casing actually need not be very thick because the pressure inside the casing is actually atmospheric. So it need not withstand hydrospatic stresses due to the gravity head in the dam which actually can be quite high in the case of a Pelton turbine installation because this is usually utilized in locations where the head available is very high. So it's fortunate that in such a situation we can operate at constant atmospheric pressure so the casing can be quite lightweight. Now here is a look at an actual Pelton wheel installation by Siemens hydropower and this design can be seen to be quite different from what we just saw. So in fact you can see that instead of a single jet that we saw before this layout has 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 jets around the periphery of the wheel. So the advantages to having 6 jets around the periphery is that the water actually can hit the runner at more than one location and hence the runner actually more or less runs full in this case which is an advantage in contrast to this situation where the water hits only one bucket so the rest of the runner is actually not developing any work. So by distributing the water around the circumference of the runner the stressors, mechanical stressors on the runner is also reduced, asymmetry in the mechanical stressors is reduced to a large extent that is a big advantage. The second advantage is that in case the flow needs to be reduced or increased we can turn off or turn on one of the jets to accomplish this with the minimal flow losses instead of using the sphere that we saw in the previous illustration. So having multiple jets in a Pelton wheel has several advantages and this is invariably utilized in many of the Pelton wheel installations that are in operation today. The most, the modern installations all have multiple jets. In addition to having multiple jets another feature that is quite widely used these days is the double overhung design of the Pelton rotor as can be seen here in a normal situation you would have a Pelton wheel rotor like this that the water jet one or more of the water jet hits the runner and the runner shaft is connected to the generator. Now this actually is a single overhung design and better mechanical balancing and better mechanical stress distribution can be achieved if we add another rotor on the other side of the generator. So both these shafts can actually run the generator and this results in more uniform distribution of the mechanical stresses. Now the power that this runner has to develop is half of what it was doing before and that the stresses are also more uniformly balanced and the axial thrust on the shaft is also now zero because the axial thrust acts in opposite directions on these two rotors so it is mechanically well balanced. So for the power that generates this is extremely compact and a very, very efficient design. So modern installations use both these strategies to improve the efficiency of Pelton turbine and their multiple jets as well as the double overhung rotor design. So here we have a load at the bucket in a Pelton rotor so it's quite clear that these are massive buckets and they are capable of generating hundreds of megawatts of power and as can be seen the bucket is shaped like two cups with the ridge in the middle so the water jet impacts the ridge in the middle then flows through both the cups on both sides of the the cups on both sides of the ridge and then comes out like this. So the turning angle usually is about 150 to 160 degrees so it's quite a lot of turning and that generates the power that is expected and more importantly since there is only change in direction of the water and hence change in momentum the pressure remains constant. Okay so let us summarize what we have seen so far. Pelton wheel is usually used for high head and low discharge installations and the pressure remains constant because there is only a change in direction of the water and the axial velocity remains constant the relative velocity also remains constant so Pelton wheel is an impulse machine. The water jet as we already mentioned leaves the nozzle at atmospheric pressure so the entire turbine operates at atmospheric pressure consequently the rotor need not run full and the casing can be lightweight although making the rotor run full by using different by using multiple jets has its own advantages so that is practiced in real life applications yet another advantage with the Pelton wheel is that it is ideally suited for silty water as the buckets can be removed easily for servicing to fix the damage caused by the silt. Now here is a blade element of one of the buckets and as we mentioned earlier the water enters and impacts the central ridge and then flows on both sides and it is turned through an angle gamma 2 as shown here. So if we apply Euler's turbine equation to this blade element we have p equal to rho times q times v theta 1 u1 minus v theta 2 u2 u1 is equal to u2 so that can be taken outside and we can actually simplify this using the velocity triangle shown here and finally show that the power is actually equal to rho u times v1 minus u times 1 minus cosine gamma 2 okay notice that the relative velocity also remains constant here c2 equal to c1 equal to v1 minus u now with everything else held constant the power produces a maximum when gamma 2 is equal to 180 so in this case this becomes 1 minus out minus 1 plus 1 so that becomes equal to 2 so the power is a maximum when gamma 2 is 180 but this is practically not viable since the water exiting a bucket will hit the following bucket so this is counterproductive so typically gamma 2 is between 155 to 155 degrees and this results only in 2% reduction from the maximum power so it's quite acceptable okay so that is the value that is used now with everything else held constant the power is a maximum when the blade speed is half of v1 okay so we simply take this expression differentiate this with respect to u and set the derivative to zero so we can show that the power produces the maximum when the blade speed is half of v1 and it must be borne in mind that v1 is equal to vj which is the velocity of the jet as it leaves the nozzle so the power is a maximum when the blade speed is half of the jet speed okay and since the overall height of the available to the turbine rotor is h the speed with which the water leaves the nozzle is quite up to the edge at least theoretically without the absence of any losses so with u equal to vj over 2 we can rewrite this expression as follows p max equal to root 2 times vj square over 4 times 1 minus cosine gamma 2 as we mentioned earlier the output power may be controlled by controlling the discharge using the spear multiple jets actually is a much better option for a much better strategy for controlling the discharge now if we denote the length of the penstock as l sub p its diameter is d sub p and the velocity of fluid in the penstock as vp and apply Bernoulli's equation between the free surface of the dam reservoir and the penstock nozzle exit we get the following where we are accounting for frictional losses in the penstock pipe so this is the friction factor in the penstock pipe so we are accounting for frictional losses in the penstock pipe okay so q is the flow rate ap here in the cross sectional area of the penstock so from this we can get an expression for vj which looks like this vj square equal to 2gh minus uh f l over vp times q square over ap square so in the case of an ideal flow and there are no losses vj is equal to uh root 2gh as before now if we further set the blade speed to be half of the jet speed then we get the power as uh row times 2 over 4 times vj square times 1 minus cosine gamma 2 okay row times 2 times vj square over 4 times 1 minus cosine gamma 2 now notice that in this case if we increase the flow rate the power increases as a result of this term here but the power decreases as a result of the q square term here which appears after negative so this increases the power whereas the term in the square bracket as a as an opposing effect so it suggests that there must be an optimum value for q that gives a maximum power okay so everything else remaining the same the power increases as q increases but the term in the square bracket uh opposes this effect because the jet velocity decreases on account of the head loss in the principle okay so basically the power uh contains a product term 2 times vj square so when we increase the flow rate this increases but uh in the because of the friction losses uh which increase with q the jet velocity decreases so vj square decreases q increases it suggests that there must be an optimum value for q okay so we differentiate this expression with respect to q and set the derivative to zero and we can get the optimum flow rate to be this and the jet velocity in this case to be four thirds uh times g h so the the theoretical value is square root of 2 g h now we have four thirds that g h which suggests that the effective head that is available in this case is uh two thirds g h and the head loss due to friction is one-third g h so this value of flow rate gives the maximum power with everything else remaining constant let us now look at our example involving the pelton turbine the problem statement is uh given here effective head is given flow rate is given uh we also introduce a couple of new uh terms in this example nozzle coefficient which accounts for losses in the nozzle what is that in this derivation we accounted for nozzles in the penstock pipe but uh i'm sorry we accounted for losses in the penstock but not in the nozzle itself so losses in the nozzle uh maybe accounted for uh by using a nozzle coefficient uh the deflection flow deflection angle is given and the velocity coefficient in the bucket uh is also given here and we are asked to calculate efficiency of the turbine nozzle diameter and the number of buckets in the wheel okay so the jet velocity dj which is usually square root of 2 g times h e is now c n times square root of 2 g times h e which works out to 75.19 meter per second uh the blade speed in this case may be calculated uh using the given value the radius and rpm as a 2 pi uh or n divided by 60 which is 35 point v 4 meter per second so the relative velocity at the inlet c1 is equal to v1 minus u that's equal to 39.85 meter per second also v theta 1 equal to v1 in this case so the velocity triangle in this case is very simple as you can see here uh c1 is equal to v1 minus u and v theta 1 is equal to v1 entire component is tangential along the u direction and the relative velocity at exit which normally would have been equal to c1 is now cv times c1 that is 0.9 times c1 so that is 35.87 meter per second therefore v theta 2 is equal to from this velocity triangle uh v theta 2 equal to u minus c theta 2 so u minus c theta 2 and the c theta 2 is nothing but c2 times cosine 180 minus gamma 1 that is the blade angle 180 minus gamma 1 so if I substitute the numbers we get this to be 2.83 meter per second notice that uh both uh v theta 1 and uh v theta 2 are in the same direction so there is no change in the sign uh of v theta 2 in the Euler's turbine equation so if we substitute the numbers we get this to be 10740 kilowatts the efficiency is the is the actual power divided by the hydraulic power which is rho g q times h e and we get this to be 87 percent it's also given that in the problem statement that five jets are used in this installation so we take the total flow rate and divide that amount five jets so and then based on this we can evaluate the diameter of each jet using this expression which gives us 0.1193 meters for the diameter of the jet uh knowing the diameter of the runner and the diameter of the jet we can use a correlation to calculate the number of buckets that are used uh which may be written like this where d is the diameter of the runner or wheel diameter dj is a jet diameter so uh this tells us that the number of buckets needed in this case number runner is 21 that concludes our discussion on the pelton wheel what we will do next is to say a few things about turbine specific speed selection of turbines and the turbine specific speed okay in the case of turbines in contrast to centrifugal machines where we used the specific speed relating q and h here we use the power specific speed which relates the bhp and the head uh head h or effective head h e okay so this is a more uh meaningful metric for turbines and it is defined in this manner note that this is dimensionless and all the quantities here are used in their appropriate uh si units bhp here is of course the efficiency times the hydraulic power which is rho q g times h e where h e is the effective head as we mentioned before this is obtained by uh eliminating the rotor diameter between uh the dimensionless head coefficient c h and the power coefficient cp the the reason for uh preferring this form of specific speed or specific speed for turbines is as follows in any practical application the initial decision making uh would be based on known quantities such as available head the speed of the rotor because in this case the turbine runs a generator which is then used for generating electrical power the speed of the rotor actually is related to the supply frequency okay normally at the voltage output voltage is either 50 or 60 hertz and the rpm of the rotor is related to the supply frequency and the number of poles in the generator okay so one uh does not really have too much freedom in selecting the rpm cannot just be any arbitrary number so the known quantities during the decision making on the available head the speed of the rotor and the power that is expected to uh produce uh basically we know the flow rate so we probably know the power that it is expected to produce at the size of the rotor and the type of the rotor are both not known so that is what needs to be selected okay both the type and the size of the rotor okay so what is normally done is using the known quantities we evaluate the uh the uh power specific speed and uh then uh we go to a chart like this which lists the different uh types of turbines and associated uh power specific speed and the peak efficiency for that we can expect for each case okay so based on this chart or based on this table we select the type of turbine we want a number of jets for a pelton wheel or low speed francis turbine uh medium speed whatever we select the type of turbine type of turbine from this and then we go to the dimensionless characteristics of that particular turbine okay so once we have the dimensionless characteristics of the particular turbine we select the maximum efficiency point and the corresponding uh uh quantity from the dimensionless characteristic which could be for instance cp so uh once we know the value for cp we can actually evaluate all the other quantities for instance once you know the value for cp we go back to the definition of cp uh now in this particular case once we know the value for cp from the turbine characteristic corresponding to the maximum efficiency point uh we know bhp we know density we know omega only d remains to be calculated so we can calculate that using this okay so uh once we have the dimensionless characteristics uh the specific speed may be used to select the type of turbine and the dimensionless characteristics may be used to actually size the rotor so we select the type of turbine then we size the rotor using the dimensionless characteristic okay so the size of the rotor may be evaluated for different types of turbines from their characteristics so for a given application a turbine of appropriate shape and size may then be selected so using the known quantities we calculate nsp then we use a table like this to select the type of turbine we then go to the dimensionless characteristics of this turbine and select the value for say cp from the point of uh corresponding to the point of maximum efficiency and then evaluate the random diameter once the random diameter is known and the speed is known uh and the angular uh speed is known the rpm is known the blade speed may then be calculated the jet speed is then twice the blade speed for optimum power in the case of a belt and turbine and we can just go on like this okay although we have stated this in very simple terms here selection turbine selection is actually much more detailed and involved and is usually discussed in in greater depth in full-fledged course on turbo machines so we will not be doing that here another aid that we have for selecting turbines given for example the head and the q would be uh would be a chart like this uh notice that you know this start broadly summarizes some of the points that we mentioned earlier that pelton turbines are used for high heads and low flow rates and francis turbines are used for medium head and medium flow rates and capitol turbines are used for low heads and high flow rate okay so we see that in in this chart also that the specific speed of pelton wheel uh is small because it has a high head and the specific speed of francis turbine uh lies in the middle mid-range and the specific speed of the capitol turbine uh is high because the head is low and this chart also helps in determining or selecting the type of turbine number of jets and so on for a particular installation where h and q are generally known so this completes our discussion of hydraulic turbine


If you want to add math formulas to your handouts without having to pay for a product like MathType, you can go and install LibreOffice, it's at LibreOffice.org, and if you download the normal version you have to be the administrator to install it. That won't work here at the school, so you can download the portable version and install that instead and it will install to a USB chip and you can take it every place you'd like. So here we are in the word processor. And what I'm going to do is I'm now going to insert a formula. I've set this up so that my original font size is going to be 24 points so that you can read things a little bit easier. Now I could point and click for all the things that I want, but it's easier for me to type them directly. So let's say I want the variance s squared sub x and that is equal to n times the sum of x squared and I do not want the parentheses so I'll get rid of them here, minus the sum of x squared. Now that's all over n times n minus 1 so I have to group this and I use curly braces to group things so that's over n times n minus 1. And there it is typeset for me. Well this is good, but let's add some more to it so I can say sum from i equals 1 to n. So I'm going to have here from i equals 1 to n and then I'm going to put here x sub i and then I need the same thing on this other sum from i equals 1 to n and x sub i. And now you'll notice that the parentheses are not quite scaled the way I'd want. One thing that you can do if you're not sure how to do it is you can come down here and I can look for my brackets and one of them here is round brackets scalable. So I'm just going to click this and insert that and the way you do it it turns out is you say left open parenthesis and right closed parenthesis. Well now that I know that I can just come back here and take this and change it to a left open parenthesis and this one will be a right closed parenthesis and now it scales very nicely. When I click outside of the formula I come back to my word processing document and there I have it. And at this point I can save the document so let me save this as and I'll just put it on my h drive as formula dot odt but I don't have to save it in that format if I don't want to. First of all I can export it as a pdf and the other thing I can do is I can save it in Microsoft dot x format. It'll give me a warning asking me if I really want to do that but yes I can do that. Now let's say you want to add a graph to your handout. You can download maxima which is a computer algebra system and it does graphs in addition to things like solving and simplifying equations. So let's look at the graphing capabilities of this. And let's just put in a simple function. So let's say f of x becomes 2 times x plus 3. You press shift enter and that is how you say you're done with that line. Now I can say let's do a 2D plot of f of x and we want the range of x from negative 5 to positive 5. And when I press shift enter I get a window that has my drawing in it and I can copy that plot to the clipboard come back to my word processing document and paste it in. You'll notice that the y axis is labeled 2 times x plus 3 which is probably not what I want. So what I can do is I can come back here into maxima and I can say I would like my y label to be just the letter y. I have to use double quotes by the way not single quotes on this and if I press shift enter again now I have the plot the way I want it with the letter y instead. I can copy that to the clipboard, get rid of the old one and paste in the new one. What if I need to draw more than one function at a time? Well I can do that easily enough so let's go back here and this time I'm going to do another plot 2D and I'm going to have f of x and inside the square brackets I'll just put another function directly.  And now I get both of those and you'll notice that up in the upper right hand corner of the drawing is the legend. Well if I'm doing a handout that's great. If I want doing a test and I want people to identify which one is which I probably don't want them labeled. So how do I avoid getting a label? I go back here and I add another set of options and say I want the legend on the graph to be the empty string and now when I plot it I get just the plain plot without any identifying information that would give the students the answer in advance. Sorry about the abrupt jump there in the editing but I was too lazy to re-record the entire previous segment. To make it up to you here are some cat pictures. Okay it's also possible to plot things more than linear equations so for example I can do a 2D plot of x squared minus 3 and let's do that from x as negative 5 to positive 5 and there's that and I can do 3D plots as well. So for example let's do a plot 3D of and now I don't need the square brackets by the way because I can only do one 3D plot at a time. Let's do x cubed minus x times y plus y squared and let's see what that looks like when we have x from negative 5 to 5 and y from negative 5 to 5 also. And there's a nice 3D plot which I can either copy to the clipboard or I can export to a file in either PNG format, PDF or as a scalable vector graphic. As long as I'm in maxima I might as well show you some of the other things that can do. One of the things that can do is do rational simplification of expressions such as for example x plus 3 times x minus 6 times x plus 7 and it can also do factorizations. So if I wanted to factor x squared plus 4 times x minus 45 it would give me x minus 5 and x plus 9 and it can also solve systems of linear equations. So if I wanted to solve x plus 2 times y equals 7 and 3 times x minus 5 times y equals 10 and I wanted the solution for x and y, maxima would give that to me. Now maxima has a lot more applications than this it has a lot more features and I can't go into them all in a simple video but if you're interested in the kinds of things you can do I strongly encourage you to download it and take a look at the documentation. So again the tools that I'm using are LibreOffice.org which allows me to type in formulas and have them type set as I type them and maxima which lets me do plots and that's the good way to make handouts and exams that are customized for your course.


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We're gonna have the Bay Vaughn and it's Patrick Waiting for copper and snow. You gotta you better run every situation You better be the best in every situation. Okay, you're wearing Andrews team Andrews on your back Absolutely, I got this. All right. All right right, please For Andrew and and please Corners there we go. All right, all right, I mean would you shoot anybody yet? Today no, oh, I am you five you find your weapon Today a lot of field describe it. Tell me yeah. Well, I mean, I've been shooting since about 54 years old, you know Oh, yeah, you were a sheriff in another town, right? Yeah. Yeah, I was I was a sheriff in another town But even growing up I grew in Texas. We used to my family's got a corn farm actually best damn corn farm this side of the Mississippi So we used to go like a corn. Well, we shot corn. We shot cans or shot our Neighbors dogs are not dogs. Excuse me cats with our dogs again.  Who'd you shoot? 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Don't worry about it, sir Don't resist Place you constant this time. All right We're just doing this for everybody's safety. You understand, right? What do you mean? I didn't do nothing. You're the one who said you brandished the weapon according to the office of Fitzgerald Well, who I have the right to meet my accuser. It's one of them constitution. Yeah, don't worry about it So you can do that and you know at a later time. All right, sir. I actually know you don't Yeah, I do Okay, I was testing you okay So I'm gonna go ahead and read you your rights now. You have the rights remain silent and the juice a Cannon will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to the attorney president available You cannot afford one one will be appointed to you for your charge by the state.  Yeah Yeah, I do a simple misunderstanding. Come on. Come on Come on, listen, I got a $20 hanging out of my back. I gotta go get married in a second Right now, sir. No, I'm just saying I know you guys need some gas. No times are rough Yeah Motherfucker over here's gonna crash the car. You can probably use it.  That ain't nothing. That's a damn. That's not even a damn donut All right, sir. Have you been read your Miranda rights yet? Yes Excellent excellent you um somebody take your shoes What are you so mad about What do you mean?  That's listen.   I don't know about this Come on Sir, I just realized you have over the It was just a misunderstanding Slippery in the rain Okay, okay, let's say let's go that situation there. Let's go that there for now First of all, come on. Did you mean to do that? What's that on purpose? I'll be honest with you. Yeah. Well, I didn't mean to do it. I don't regret it one damn bit Okay, that's fair enough, I appreciate you being honest So remember first thing is for your safety So that should be the first thing especially you have a very very good description of somebody Come over here put your hands behind your back, especially if it's a gun, right? That's pretty dangerous and hurt you kill you for other people So you want to get him disarmed or check if he's armed as quick as possible Mm-hmm. Yeah, and babe on at the end of the day. Don't you worry about getting sued? Just remember what I told you, okay? Would you tell what that down? Yeah, what did you tell them I told them they can't sue you if they're dead We're losing right now cornwood we're losing You see what you just did to secondary. Yeah, but I was slowing down forever Are you using your handbrake to slow down? 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Welcome to CCTV Channel 17's Live at 525, the Preservation Burlington Show. Preservation Burlington's a non-profit 501C3 organization, and our mission is to preserve and protect the historic architecture and livability of Burlington through education and advocacy. I'd like to thank everybody for tuning in. It's 427, 2023, you can see on the screen there. I think they'll bring up a phone number soon if you want to call in. It's old home week, I think. Leaves us back on the show with me again, co-hosting. Thank you. You're welcome. And Matt Viennes, our long-suffering Preservation Burlington Homes tour captain, extraordinaire, or leader, or... Superhero. Committee chair. Committee chair. Committee chair is joining us today. Do we want to do any housekeeping? Do we have some stuff coming up to talk about? I don't think so. I think things have been pretty quiet. We've been pretty occupied with the cathedral advocacy, or former cathedral. And there hasn't been much in between, or time in between. So home's tour is what we're really excited for. Because we're bringing it back for the first time in years, right? Yes, three years we've been without one. So this is the big year back. And we're looking forward to it. We're always stressed about the home's tour. We've forgotten in the past couple of years, right? We've forgotten how stressful it is. No, I've not forgotten. I know. I do want to say, well, anyway, invite people to call in. But so Matt, it really, it looked bad for a while. When we started talking about the home's tour again and trying to find homes and contacting people who, three years ago, were interested. And now, suddenly, we're not. And we just kept hitting wall after wall. And I want to say, three weeks ago, four weeks ago, you brought everybody in. Somehow, you wrangled all the homes. Yeah, magic, I guess. I don't know. But yeah, you're right. When COVID hit, we were partway into getting our lineup for the 2020 tour. Yeah, yeah, yeah.  And so the following year, we thought, hmm, dare we try it again? And we kind of knew early on that that was not possible. So we delayed it yet another year. And did we do it another year? Yeah, yeah, it was tough decisions, right?  And you know, it's almost post-traumatic stress to talk about it even for me.  It seems so far ago, so long ago now, you know. And then it was like 2022 where we really thought we might be able to do it. But it was still enough comfort on this. Yeah, there were things with vaccinations going on. And you know, the thing with the Homes Tour is that you're talking, even though a lot of people are outside in between the homes, we're talking about around 400 people congregating closely together sometimes in lines and then inside people's homes. And it's a little, it's a tough sell to argue even when you have a waning pandemic. Right, right. There's always, there's been so much uncertainty from like month to month to month, right? Like, remember we were first washing our groceries and I'm leaving them outside and people didn't, does it stick to surfaces? Does it not? And so people, I can understand, were really reluctant to have people come inside their spaces. Yeah, definitely. But as you were saying, we did have some people kind of slated for that tour. We were hopeful that we'd go back to them three years later and they would be willing to pick right up when things left off. But wasn't the case. We have one holdover, which is great. A very dedicated gentleman in the North Avenue who has a fantastic garden and a very eclectic, interesting interior of his home. What style house is it? Well, you know, that's a good question because I inquired of some of our experts on the board what style that house is. And so it's a property. It's not one of Burlington's older homes, but it that way. It was, I built around 1950, we believe, and unfortunately the folks who looked at the home couldn't give me an exact style. So it's not mid-century modern. Well, it had some elements of mid-century modern. I think I mentioned the owner said something about kind of Bauhaus influenced and then folks said, well, probably not so much. So it's like a local interpretation of the style. Yeah, it's... True, that happens, right? And I think it's a home that had been altered over the years, even though it's not that old. Had a very, I did see a photograph of it from shortly after it was built and it had a very modern look to it. And then subsequent owners added some green shutters and various elements that probably were not appropriate. Which was intended for the style of the house. So it's kind of a mishmash. Yeah, you said eclectic, so it sounds like... Yeah, it sounds like one house. Yeah, people love that kind of interesting and it tells a story, right? Oh, it does, yeah. And the owner is a real character, so folks are gonna... No doubt, enjoy that. This home has actually already been on the Flynn Homes Tour before for the... The Garden Tour. The Garden Tour, the Flynn Garden Tour. So the garden is exceptional. And as folks who have been on the Homes Tour before know, we love to have gardens as well. So it's one thing to have a fantastic house, but if you can attach a garden to it, we really love it. If you can add on to that a fantastic view of the lake, then we're even happy. Winner, yeah, I got a winner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which we've had some of us. It reminds me of... Every time we say the word Homes Tour and eclectic, I think of Rick and the Ramblers, his place, you know. It was like the last thing you say, out of almost morbid curiosity, you wanted to get in that building. And then his place was so... It was like a weird museum of local history and music and a view of the lake. If you could see out the window, you know, it was crazy. But people loved it. I remember there was lines at that one. Yeah, there's something for everyone, right? So how many homes are on the tour this year? So we have six homes on the tour this year and that's pretty much the number we shoot for. I think we've had some years where we may have had five with last minute cancellations, but knock on wood. We have six homes this time. One of the exciting ones on the tour is gonna be the Follett House, right on the waterfront or across the road, I guess, from the waterfront of Burlington, the beautiful Greek revival. Pretty unobstructed view of the waterfront. Yes, yeah. And so we're very happy to have that home on the tour. I've never seen inside. I'm sure some folks have, but I'm told that right now it is an office building, but many of the rooms have been restored and are very nicely decorated. I've been inside it. It's beautiful, it is. And they love the story too. And I can't remember off the top of my head, but maybe you know it. Do you know the story about the wife? Yeah, but I couldn't tell it. I would have bought it. I'm sure it'll be on display. You mean the Follett story? Yeah, the Follett story when he built it. Lost all his money. Well, if he lost all his money, his wife was like a gat about in town or something. And yeah, I don't know. It's pretty... It's a spicy story. It's a spicy story. Yeah, I'm sure they'll be telling it. Sure. Well, it's one of my favorite Vermont buildings and certainly in Burlington. So we're happy to have that home on the tour. We have, as I said, five other homes. We, this year, like we have in the past, we kind of try to get a mix of homes. So we will have some smaller homes, average everyday folks homes. And of a historic nature, I think the one I was talking about on North Avenue is probably the newest home on the tour from the 1950s. Right, from mid-century. And then we have other ones, probably the Follett houses, the oldest home on the tour. And then other homes fall in between there and range from various different styles. I know we have some... You and I met one of the homes and it's very vernacular worker housing and... Met the home? We did meet the home. We met at the home. Okay. And could we cut to commercial for a minute? Anyway, the good story on that home is it's a remodel. Certainly not a remodel, it's a remodel. And this house was neglected for so long and it's near my house. So I've seen them work on it over the past. It took them a couple of few years, maybe two years, three years or something. And working weekends, because they both have jobs. And they saved the house, you know? And it's pretty intact. It looks just like it did when it was original. And inside, of course, is modernized to a certain extent, but they've done all kinds of interesting stuff with salvage materials and what... I think it's gonna be pretty pop... It's one of the not bigger houses, but it's gonna be one of the really popular ones on the tour, I think. It's fun to see what they've done, you know? Yeah. So they're all over Burlington, they're not... They're not clustered? They're not clustered. They're all over Burlington, you know, in an ideal world, given that it's only the tour lasts from 12 until four. You know, it would be nice to maybe just have a... One road? One road with all the tours right there, but are all the homes right there, but not possible, because it takes a lot of work to convince people to be on the tour, and the chance of getting five houses located closely together is pretty much... Unless they're all mid-century modern, like that one year they were all on one road. But I mean, the thing I like about the fact that it's kind of spread out this year, and definitely we try to cluster them normally, but it's like, okay, first year back, right? And then we'll return after COVID, and people can see, not only... They're just driving to different neighborhoods, so you'll see several different neighborhoods in town with examples of the housing in that neighborhood, which is kind of cool. Yeah, and they're not miles away. For instance, we have two homes in... Really, three homes in Burlington South, and two either in or very adjacent to the Five Sisters neighborhood. Then we have one up on South Willard Street, which is not too far from those two other homes. Then we have the Follett House, as I mentioned. Then we have two off from North Avenue. One with a spectacular view of the lake and beautiful garden on Terrace. Terrace? Lakeview Terrace. Lakeview Terrace. Lakeview Terrace. And then one out from North Avenue further down that I've mentioned with the garden, with the fantastic garden and very eclectic style. So it sounds like if you're heading from North or South, you can almost make a sweep, make a big sweep of it, and then turn around and go home. I know we're not Winooski, one square mile, but we're like seven miles. That's not that bad to travel, you know. And another thing new this year is our tickets have for years been sold at Flynn Ticks, Flynn Ticks, Flynn Box Office. They are no longer offering that service. So we have arranged to have our tickets sold by seven days and I believe it's seven days tickets. I think so. There's a link on their website I've seen. And then you can see all the different things that are available to buy tickets for. Yeah, and those will go on sale likely around May 9th. The tour is June 10th, Saturday, June 10th. So that will give about a month to purchase tickets. And they're still $20 as in the past? The tickets are still $20, yes. Okay. What else is on June 10th that's really important? I can't remember. There's a special, something about June 10th. My birthday, that's right. So thank you, Matt, for bringing the home store back on my birthday. Yeah, well, yeah. I know you did that on purpose. You can throw your water at him tonight. You're welcome. We'll have a special cake for you. I do, I said it earlier. I do mean it. That is a good point. We will have refreshments and like a little party. Oh yeah, where's the sag stop? Yeah, we're still in discussions about where that will be. I'm pretty confident that it will be in one of the homes, but that is still to be determined. But don't worry, folks who go on the tour will be able to have some delicious lemonade and cookies as usual. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's always one of the better parts. Better stops for the thing. People congregate and share notes and stuff. So are there homeowners at their homes? Will they be there telling the stories of their homes as well? How does it all work? How does it work? Well, yeah, it varies. It's really up to the homeowners what they want to do. And we love it when the homeowners are excited about the tour and want to be in the home to answer questions. Other homeowners I think are a little bit more bashful maybe and don't want to be around. And those homeowners are absolutely welcome to go and view all the other homes on the tour. But I usually recommend if the homeowner is interested to stay for at least half the tour. So the way we run the tour is it's four hours. We have volunteers who help us every year with this. And the volunteers have two hour stints, really. And so if you volunteer to help us with the tour, you get to tour the homes for two hours and then work for two hours. So I recommend that the homeowners try that as well. Because I think they may be a little reticent about being in the home to have to hear what people are saying about their home. But it can also be very exciting. You get a lot of compliments. And you feel really proud about the work you've put into your historic home. So I think it can be really kind of self affirming if they're there to see that excitement. Yeah, yeah. I know that my in-laws, Jack and Peg, meant has had their home on twice. They had their condo on on Adams Street. And then also the carriage house, the year we did carriage houses. And Peg still talks about it. She loves it. She loves the people coming through and asking questions and chatting. It's a really fun time. It's really great. Are you still looking for volunteers? We are still looking for volunteers. And I don't know if we have any, the best way for people to reach out about that. We can put something on the website to make that easy. Perfect. Normally, I just give people my email address, but I don't know that I want to necessarily do that here. Because of all the thousands of people that are just gonna. Three thousand. It hasn't stopped ringing. But. That's because it's email, man. Yeah, but. So, in short, I do have a list. I do have a list of previous volunteers from three years ago. And I'm sure many of those folks will be here to volunteer again. But we're always looking for new energy. So, yeah, we'll be looking for new volunteers. You might well see a front porch forum. Call? A call for volunteers? Call for volunteers. Well, normally you'll definitely see advertising or notice that. Of the home store. Of the home store. And what we often do is kind of plug right in there. On the bottom line. Anyone interested in volunteering. Reach out to me. And so that's. I remember one year I wrote help with desperate for help on the bottom. Did it work? And Matt got mad at me, yeah. And then we were flooded with people, so. So, our ticket's going to be digital or printed. And the booklet. Usually we put together a little booklet, right? With a little house history and information. How's that going to work this year? We're doing that this year as well. The booklet will be just like it has in all previous years. It will be available at the homes.  And it will include a, among other things, a map of the other homes. It will include histories of each home. And interesting facts about the house. Or things to look out for. As far as the tickets go, as I said, those are available at the seven days tickets office. And apparently I'm told that you can go and pick them up physically at seven days during normal business hours. But the easiest way to do it will be to, you'll purchase the tickets online and you'll be able to just print it. My understanding is that they will either send it to your email or send it to your phone. You can either print it out or just. Have it on your phone. Have it on your fancy newfangled folks. They just look at your phone. You know? And there it is. A little scanner. It's gonna be a little bit of learning curve this year. But you're right, that was a good question. Because it is gonna be different. You're not going physically grabbing a ticket and showing it when you show up. So it'll be something you printed out if you could. If not, you could just show your picture. I think showing the phone is fine. There's less stuff into the landfill, right? Or into the recycling bin? Yeah, our paperless society. Yeah, that never worked. It got worse, it got worse. Right. Oh, you said something earlier, Matt. It'll come back to me, but. It's because you're old. It was anecdotal about, yeah, the home store and just some funny stuff. But there's been a lot of funny stuff over the years and putting it together, you know. Just interesting either homes or I don't wanna overwhelm people, but the after-party is always fun, you know. We're gonna have to have a couple of homes for our meetings coming up pretty quick, huh? We do. Yeah, the folks who don't know, there is a homes tour committee, which is one of the standing committees of Preservation Burlington. I have been fortunate or unfortunate to be the chairperson of that committee for. 23 years or so. Seems like that. Has it been the only one? Oh no, no, no. The homes tour has a very storied past of being initially run by a group of folks who are really separate from Preservation Burlington. They kind of ran it as a distinct, separate group. Yes, stand-alone committee that did their own thing. And Rebels. And were very good at it. And like with all things, I think they reached the point where they needed to have other things to do and occupy their time. So it eventually became a really a committee of the board and it consists of a very small group of dedicated people who year after year search for these homes and knock on doors and plead and beg homeowners to participate. Compliment them. So what you're saying is you would love some new blood on this committee, have people come volunteer, not just on homes tour day itself, but come and help all year round to plan the next one. We're not like that first committee. We're not insular. We're not insular at all. I happen to be on the committee and I watch Matt's hard work and Jack and you know, Marge just all the background history stuff. But yeah, it's a fun committee. It's probably realistically like 15 years ago now I think then we started, because remember we were meeting in my old, old shop. And then that's sort of when there was sort of a changeup of the guard at that point. And Lindsay Mason was on it, running it. She was part of that old, and then they had all sort of gone away like Matt said. And then all of a sudden we were, okay, well, we can do this. And I think you've been in charge of it since as far as I can remember. I keep trying to get rid of it and it keeps coming back. It's crickets every time you invite someone else to step in and take over. Yeah, but fresh blood would be good. Preservation Burlington as a board could use new people. Our committee could definitely use more people. We don't call it membership anymore, do we, for Preservation Burlington, but our supporters, we can always use more of those. So, yeah. Or even just people to solicit and help encourage homeowners to get their homes on the tour. That's the big thing. We do reach out to people every year and sometimes we get, sometimes we get people let us know houses they like. That's not what we're looking for. We're looking for somebody who has an in with a homeowner and they think it might be worthy and they'd wanna see it on the home store. But we do reach out to the community at large and try to do that every year. And then, yeah, sometimes it shoots us in the foot because we get a lot of just more houses that we have to look at that are cold calls. So that's the tricky part. That's where Matt and Jack are really good. They cold call. They just go in and they tell them how great the home store is and that you should be on it. Jack's experienced doing yellow page sales for 50 plus years or something. I don't know how long he was in the phone company, but he's knocked on a lot of doors. So he's good at it. Me, I'm not really good at it. So since both of you've been doing this for a really long time, do you have a favorite home that has been on the tour ever? Does anything stand out? Well, there are a lot of favorite homes, I think. There was one on, gosh, I'm forgetting the name, not Willard Street, but South Union, I believe, right on the corner of South Union and maybe Spruce or something very close to there, a fantastic brick home that was, the owners have changed over the years. Kathy Donnelly's house. That is, she was owned, she owned it at the time. The former house. And that house was just fantastically decorated almost to my perfect taste. And as you climbed the staircase that was incredible, up three floors, I believe, there was this fantastic back porch with a view of the lake. Sweet views of the lake. And like Wicker Shays lounges, and it was just fantastic. You could feel the breeze coming in off the lake and it was absolutely beautiful. So that would be my favorite house. How about you? That's a good one. It's so hard, there's been so many over the years. And again, so many different types and styles of houses that the one I mentioned earlier may be one of my favorites now. Definitely the year we did the Modernist Homes, there were two or three up on the forest, the forest heights, there was two or three there. There were a couple that were just really cool. And again, they're up high, they're on the forest. You get this view of the Adirondacks and the lake from these front porches, you know, from this, I mean, if you were derogatory, you'd say almost motel-like, but the houses are sprawled out. The whole front of the house is glass and open up to the view. It's amazing. I really enjoyed that tour as well, just because it was a building style that I didn't have a whole lot of familiarity with and to actually see it in use and as a residence and how the spaces were put together and decorated it was educational and so it was really eye-opening which I really enjoyed. Because we get to see, like on home tours, the Victorian, the Colonials, those are traditional, what people want to see, but these Modernist Homes were just super cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fun, it's like you said earlier, man. It's hard to get all of one type of house. We kick that idea around and we get advice from outside the committee sometime. Oh, you should do all tutors. And it's like, well, great. But there's X amount of them and we have to badger the people to get them on the tour, you know? So that's really difficult. But we've had a couple of tutors on the tour that are fun, you know, that 1920s, maybe early, by the 30s they're moving more into craftsman or bungalow style, right? But yeah, I don't know. So technically tutor revival. Tutor revival. Yeah, okay, okay, miss, I'm from England. Oh, you are feisty today. Well, me, yeah. I don't know, it's, yeah, I'm pretty excited.  It's been a long three years without it. I know it's, we joke and stuff and we have joke. It is a pain in the neck to pull this thing together. And the reason the committee is a standing committee for the year is because it really, after the home tour, we probably relax for a month or two and then start thinking about it again, you know? So it takes 10 months to pull it together. 10 months, three pretty vigorous out of those. But yeah, every year after the tour is done, I take a deep breath and think, oh. I'm never doing this again. That's over with. And then like maybe in a week or two, I think, you know, you should start right now and get a jump on it. It's like all those homeowners who said, oh, not this year, but probably or maybe next year, I just send them a message right now and lock them in for next year. But that doesn't, that doesn't happen. I was gonna say, if Matt wasn't exhausted, probably the morning after the home store, he would call those people and go, so are you on for next year? So you need help, we get that. Yeah, it's pretty great. I think we're winding down here, so I just want to, I want Matt, Matt, thanks for coming on. Thanks for doing all your hard work and pulling this crazy thing together. And it's our biggest fundraiser and people love it. And they've been asking about it for three years. So it's great to be able to bring it back for them. Still asking about it. And now I can tell them, yes, we're doing it, you know. Thanks everybody for tuning in to CCTV, Live at 525, Preservation, Burlington. For more information on Burlington history, our tours and events, or to get a marker for your historic house, go to preservationburlington.org and we'll see you next month.


Jimmy K here, Metal Voice. Look at this. The Metal Voice shirts are now on sale. Just go to the video description to find out on how you can purchase one. Metal! Hello, boys. Hey. Here we go. Welcome to the Metal Voice. Today on the show, yeah! Who do we got, Alan? Oh, my gosh. It's been years we've been trying to get this dude, man. D. Snyder himself. Hey, guys. Great to finally be here on the Metal Voice. I didn't realize it's been years, but I hear that complaint from a lot of people. Sorry. Sorry for the difficulty. I hope the catch is better than the chase. Hey, you know, this is a great time to do it because my ears are still bleeding. My computer's sweating here, listening to for the love of Metal Live. My computer's dripping with sweat here, listening to this album. July 31st on Napalm Records for the love of Metal Live.  A brand new track. Yeah, prove me wrong. It's not live, it's studio track, but, you know, Napalm, you know, at this day and age everybody's trying to figure out a way to sweeten the package to get people to actually buy the product. And they asked if we had any outtakes from For the Love of Metal, and we did not. And I said, but, you know, we can write something and, you know, and record a record. So, I mean, prove me wrong. It's a signal to people that this is DeSnyder's sound now. This is the direction I am in and staying in. It's very much in the vein of For the Love of Metal. And that's, you know, anything you hear from me moving forward would be that heavy. Let's start with, you know, For the Love of Metal, the album itself, it made our top 10 list. And to go back to your point, you know, is De angrier these days than he was back in the 80s with Twister System? Because man, this is some aggressive stuff coming out of here. You know, it's, it's actually a pretty good question. I'll tell you something that I've never told anybody, except my wife.  I believe I'm happy. I have success and financial well-being. You know, I've all the things that people dream of and I always dreamed of. Yet, anytime I look in the mirror, I give the middle finger. And I'm not sure if I'm giving the middle finger to myself or to the world in the privacy of my own moment. But I think I do have a well of anger within me that that I have many it's only honest. I feel that it's always been very difficult me to get things done. I've never, I've never been given nothing I've ever done has ever come easy and people say, oh, that must be so satisfying it is. But damn, I would just like something to go easy one in a freaking while. I like someone to just say yes and not have a freaking battle with everything I try to do. I mean everything.  Yeah, so I think there is a well a hidden well of anger still in there and you're hearing it. When you say everything, you're the one constant there. It takes me back to your book.  I got it right here, by the way. Is it D that's cursed or is it D the cause? What's going on? My wife is a, my wife is very spiritual. She's like the traditional holy roller way.  She went to Peru some spiritual journey and walked into this place in the middle of the jungles and she was like decked out by the eyes of Dior and only made up and there was only dirty hippies in there and they thought she made a wrong turn on the Amazon.  Anyway, the point is she says we are all sent here on a journey. She says and this is yours. Your journey here is you're going to get what you want you'll achieve your dreams but you're going to have to fight and scrape every inch of the way. I said great. The good news is you get to come back and do it again in a different way. Even better. Even better. You've retired and now you're like stronger than ever. I mean I can't even believe this album is so great. It's, you've taken the twist of sister songs and you've revamped them and they sound better than ever actually. Alan? I agree. You know, thanks for appreciating that. You know, you guys know true fans know that Twisted was a metal band before we became recognized as you know, anthem pop, metal, hair we were there in the trenches in Europe touring with Motorhead and Saxon and Maiden it was no hair metal there wasn't even anybody else wearing makeup. I mean we were doing this since the 1970s after Kiss took theirs off so I mean, you know, we so the fact was we were a metal band but I certainly had these you know, love, the AC DC the Slade kind of anthemic rock songs and we wrote some obviously powerful ones but in our heart we were a metal band especially in my heart and on this album I try to really show that first of all with the exception of I Want to Rock when I could take it I focused on songs like Under the Blade, Burnin' in Hell Fire Still Burns the really metallic Twisted songs and my guys, you know they're from bands like Toxic Holocaust when they detuned and started adding a little more you know I mean they were metal songs but even more metallicized after my new band lays into them and I really wanted to connect the dots there with this live record and show people here's what I'm doing today this is what I was doing then and they're not so far removed even hearing a song from Widowmaker in there Ready to Fall which fits perfectly in you know that was a very metallic band thank you Standby for Pain and you know that was a very metallic band and it fits perfectly in the set and you know you did all the writing you would love to have more input from the guys in Twisted System but you were the main writer and it's almost as like Jim was saying you're doing all the writing but it's like part A of your career and part B because it's so so heavy now Twisted I you know Twisted was a glitter band they formed in 1973 which people just started to get aware of through the documentary that's out there and that's 73 that's the Alice Cooper days Bowie Days T-Rex New York Dolls and that was their inspiration I joined in 76 that glitter era was over and metal was starting to come and I loved glitter rock but I also love metal so when I joined I brought in my love of both those things and that became sort of the Twisted Sister what became to find his hair metal sound but at my core at my heart I'm a metalhead I've always been I'm day one day one first black Sabbath out day one first grand punk out day one first Zeppelin album day one blue cheer day one I am like I was there when the ugly breach birth of heavy metal and the death of the Woodstock nation and I helped swing a sledge hammer to destroy it you're welcome you're welcome Frank cares about Crosby stills and Nash God says you know it's interesting I was thinking about this last night as I lay in bed oh my god we're not going there we're not going there I didn't know what just got to show I was probably wrong with it guys I just you know I was thinking you know back in the 80s me and Alan you know we're fans and there you are at the PRMC you know trying to sort of stop censorship and today's world I think we've actually have censorship I mean I don't I mean it's changed it got better but then in a way it got worse I don't know if it's for the better or for the worse oh well you're absolutely right first of all it's more subversive you know when it's out it just we thought about like we were winning in some way but it just went more underground it's still there the manipulation of what we see and what we hear the PC nation you know I it's a filmmaking now and my filmmaking friends often talk about the fact that a movie like blazing saddles could not be made to that's right literally could not be made because it offends too many people I've never seen that movie the first time in a theater full of African Americans in a black neighborhood a black theater me and my friend were only two white people and I was laughing my ass off and my friend said stop laughing we're going to get our asses kicked and I looked around at the theater and everybody was laughing you know everybody was laughing it's funny funny it's funny but now you know the conservatism was ultra-right back in the 80s now it's shifted sort of to the left we've got the liberals saying oh you can't say that you can't say that you can't say that so yeah it's still around it's still an issue um and you know but we just got to continue to push back and fight okay let's get back to the album here I mean you know you're a bloodstock okay you got your musicians now you were an opening act what was that about opening act I hate to follow Dee Snyder I like the bathroom bit like hey we're going to play a new song don't go to the bathroom yeah well that's just because I remember seeing this is the truth Led Zeppelin, Madison Square Garden physical graffiti tour the album had just come out and they went is it this one's off the new record it's called Cashmere dude half the arena left half because they were like oh it's a new song Cashmere they walked out but it wasn't like Cashmere yet it was a new song and anytime here as I said in the live album it's like I would tell you if you have a problem with going to the bathroom it's all you have to do is play this words here's one from the new album over and over it'll be running for that crapper you know so but I mean uh you know by the way I just want to say that you listen to the CD and the interstitial stuff the rapping and stuff is taken almost all from Bloodstock the album itself is a and the live DVD is a combination of nine different shows from all over the world and we and when you watch the DVD it cuts from day to night Europe to South America to rain in one line of the song one line it's constantly cutting and I at first you say does that work? it does and what I wanted to show was that the connection is for the community for the family how it resonates in Brazil and it resonates in England and it resonates in Australia it resonates in Canada it resonates everywhere we are connected through this music we are one we really are one and I wanted to show that just by showing every audience just enjoying the moment together you know the metal family is an amazing one for sure plus it's like a documentary right there's like bits of uh you know I guess from the PRMC days at least what I've been reading about it correct? I did this thing called Spoken and Shouted in Australia I had an idea to do a spoken word day two in the same town and a spoken word was a smaller crowd a few hundred people but it was interesting but a lot came out of it because here I am in the middle of touring the album and so a lot of the interview sort of reflected on where I've been and where I got to where I was today and we found that it made for interesting cutaways during the live footage to break from the you know little concert footage and go to this interview segment and reflect a little bit on what people are seeing and hearing from D Snyder in 2011 that's 2019 Is stand-up comedy next because the banter in between the songs you should be on stage you are you know yeah well you know to me yeah I enjoy entertaining the audience and people I've ever been reviewed and said D Snyder show is an emotional roller coaster they said there's anger and then there's joy and there's laughter and at the time this reviewer was I was dealing with my mother the passing of my mother and I came and did this show because I said these are the times when we need metal the most when we're hurting this is when we need to this metal is always that form of release for all of us people say it's a fact that metal heads grow up to be better adjusted adults and psychology today interviewed me and asked me why and I said we get it out we express the frustration and the anger and the heartbreak and the sorrow and all those very powerful emotions need to go somewhere and we go to a show we scream, we yell, we shout, we mosh we go home sweaty and happy and so I try to, as a front man and that's what I am, try to bring all those experiences and my wife always said her favorite parts of the show is when I stop playing and talk to the crowd and I guess that's why I'm in radio now so just to add to that D the safest place you can ever be if you're with true fans is at a heavy metal concert I mean the most violent concert we're actually like jazz and blues concerts where people have been drinking all day but you know heavy metal fans it's a brotherhood like you said so many people who go to festivals or go to shows who aren't metal fans or get dragged along they're always like amazed I couldn't believe everybody was it was so great everybody was having a good time I'm like you know this is the old judge book by its cover miss reading the room you know I've always said don't worry about the metal fans we can get it out I worry about the pent-up suits and people who are just so uptight they're the ones who turn out to be axe murderers but hold on I really gotta ask this before it's all done I mean here you are re-releasing or restarting your career in a sense with so much anger and power and such great music and then Twisted Sisters retiring I mean it's sort of like should you have continued with Twisted Sisters or is that over or I think you could probably make the best music of your career with Twisted Sisters right now well you know that's an interesting thing I don't okay and we could go a little bit longer guys they give me a break in between I appreciate it but we can roll for a little bit more I love Twisted and then my brothers and we're still talk to each other and we're still friends and that was one of the great things about reuniting was to fix those relationships and because we fought so hard and so long together to end on the note we ended in 87 we should you know Twisted Sisters came out like a lion appeared and people like some people didn't even know we broke up but what you probably was like we went out with a whimper and didn't want that to be the last thing so Twisted Reunited after 15 years we were together reunited longer than we were together the first time which was an amazing thing but there's limitations when you're with a band like Twisted Sister where people wanted to find you by what you did and who you are and I still suffer through the same limitations but I'm a little bit freer to do something different and having done something finally that connected with my audience the metal audience with younger fans as well it was amazing the response to for love of metal this is what everybody who goes solo whatever instrument they play dreams about you have this legacy band you're from but you'd like to show that you standing on your own two feet are capable of being something of doing something and you know look at Robert Plant he's a friend he's been trying for decades and he puts out all these different records all in hope that people will say remember Robert Plant you're not overpowering but still that he stands on his own keeps trying it's the dream that everybody hopes for only person I know who really did it well a few people have done it but Ozzy did it in the biggest way Ozzy left Sabbath came out and now it's two hours plus of Ozzy Osbourne paranoid and good night is a tip of the hat through the old days he stands on his own Glenn Danzig did it coming out of the misfits it's such a difficult thing to achieve and I started to actually I finally put like sort of a flag down and said this is D and people going yeah we dig this so I'm gonna be hard pressed to not move forward as D Snyder and try to continue to be me separate from Twisted Sister and continue to give people music that's D Snyder music and for myself what really turned me on to Twisted Sister back then they was the voice and the voice is how do you do it all these years later it's incredible how strong and powerful your voice is on this live album thank you and that's one of the things that Jasta when he challenged me to do this record Jamie said your voice is as strong as ever opera singers don't start singing until they're in their 30s that's a fact that's when they start their careers because their voices haven't matured and I think I benefited I've had a throat surgery I've certainly abused my voice but skipping the alcohol skipping the drugs living a healthier lifestyle I think it's allowed me physical and vocal longevity although that said I've had knee surgery I've had shoulder surgery I've had throat surgery I'm becoming the bionic frontman so I don't know until everything's titanium you know we'll see what happens that's the odd thing as I sit here going okay you're kicking the second wave of your career in at 65 really now in the meantime I'm going to be directing my first feature film I've just been asked to direct another movie I've finished my first novel which is out at Publishers now a fictional novel so I'm also exploring new ways of expressing myself and I don't know how I'm going to fit it all in but I'll try I've got my little collection you never really stop I've got a Van Helsing CD Van Helsing's Curse baby I've taken many swings at the solo thing I certainly have Desperado I've done a lot of live shows SMF's I mean and none of them really connected anytime I just couldn't get them to really connect until for the love of metal went to the top of the billboard charts it was at the top of all the metal charts to go out on stage and you hear it on the live album you see it in a concert if I had tear ducts I would have gotten choked up because to have people singing and excited about new music from D Snyder was something I've been struggling to achieve for over 30 years since I left the band and finally people something was resonating so I feel blessed in that way What genre are you going to be writing for your movie script in is it horror, is it psychological thriller? I'm a horror guy even though I'm capable my novel is a fictional novel period piece from the 70s nothing to do with rock and roll and I'm hoping that people read it and go holy crap this guy is capable of things beyond rock and roll and horror heavy metal and horror but I'm a horror junkie Miami's Enemy which is the one I'm going to be directing first I wrote very disturbing movie and powerfully disturbing and then after that I've been asked to rewrite re-imagine a classic 80s horror film I can't say which one which I'm working on right now and direct that one as well slash film from the mid 80s so and I think the producers they're saying oh we found a new Rob Zombie you guys rocker everybody wants to sort of like just wants to like pigeonhole you but you know if you're lucky enough to get a pigeonhole to be in you know you gotta view it as a blessing people fight their whole lives hoping that somebody will recognize it for something so the fact that I'm you know recognized for metal and horror now you know I've got that I know I could do a lot more than this and that's why I like writing because it's so freeing for me I as I write characters I could be anybody I could be anything in any place at any time Alan? I just want to shout out here if anybody can get their hands here's a cassette that's how back this goes Widowmaker's Blood and Bullets what a phenomenal album anybody can find this what album was Clive Burr on? Clive was on Desperado Desperado Dormais and the late Clive Burr on Desperado a swing and a miss you know I mean we were the record was Shell before it even came out Widowmaker that first record Blood and Bullets where are you guys Montreal Canadian you access the giveaway we sound like you I forgot Esquire Records that was a buddy of mine set that company up handling money out of Canada through some through some item some sort of stock scheme was going on we were actually with Blood and Bullets getting some some legs we got the 50,000 copies oh my god we were the only band on the label it was this little back room down on Long Island and this Canadian guy was pulling money out of Canada and the Royal Mounties came in and arrested the guy locked up the building and shut the company down so that record is like gone, wiped off the face of the earth because some Canadian guy was I loved him for trying to help my career but he was doing something very shifty and illegal I don't know so we're trying to actually and then the second album was on CMC and on the middle of the tour Joey Franco slammed his finger well actually my guitar player Albert Trelli slammed Franco's finger into the door and broke his finger in the middle and the tour was called and it was just like a death knell for Widowmaker so right now we're working on trying to release the two albums in some sort of package a missing link package to a box set or something so we'll see about that guys with a pleasure to talk to you hey thanks D. Snyder for the love of Metal Live July 31st a must DVD and people think I'm a prophet because the last thing I'll tell you so spring 2019 I announced to my management I'm taking off 2020 from live performing and they were like what we just got things going again with the love of Metalizer listen I'm taking off I'm going to write a novel I'm writing some screenplays I'm taking a break I didn't know the entire entertainment industry was taking a break we're not a prophecy and I wanted to write all I can do is write I sit her in the house day in and day out writing be careful what you wish for and then they said well what are we going to do for 2020 I said well let's film some of the shows and put out a live album as like a placeholder time for a live album to come out at a time when people star for live entertainment so get the DVD Blu-ray put it on your big screen TV get your friends social distance wear your masks get a beer and rock out with you you know what's out to D Snyder Live for the love of Metal Live and in July and hopefully we'll be back in business again in 2021. Thank you so much thank you D it was a great guide that brings me right up to my next interview take care


I think the Packers are going to make the playoffs and win a game in the playoffs. This just seems like all the stars are aligning for the Packers to not only sneak in, but I really do think, even though they'd be nine and eight, nobody wants to see this team because it's not like it's a bad team that's sneaking in. They have the potential to do some damage. Now, if they go out to Santa Clara, that's their boogeyman. Kyle Shanahan is the boogeyman. I wouldn't expect them to win that game, but if the Vikings end up with the two seed or the three seed and the Packers get the six, which is still possible if the Giants lose out. I think the Packers go to Minnesota and win that game. I still think they can go to San Francisco and win that game. So my prediction is the Packers not only make the playoffs, but win a game in the playoffs as well.


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Congrats on that New Orleans. Very nice Going to Adam. Good stuff Adam. And Luke Shoenmaker rookie Jersey Auto going to the Cowboys. Congrats Dallas Jonathan E with a spot down to 21 21 to go now everybody 21 to go On that break Make sure to sub there Jared Underscore to 99 Debo Samuel for the Niners and Will Levitt's the 149 for the Titans That is a Jalen Hertz and will Anderson rookie Grats on that there Texans Cedric Tillman on the rookie patch to 75. There you go Brandon. Nice one there. What's up Brett? How you doing, buddy? What's up Brett to 75 Cedric Tillman? What's up, Brett? And everybody 21 to go on number 10 21 to go on number 10 go on Number 10 of origins. Got Michael Wilson. Nice on-card rookie auto for the Cardinals The Guna CJ Stroud auto 500 nice primary talking about that one. 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Nice 57 to 75 orange rookie auto. That's sick dude with the orange ink As well. Congrats on that one there Giants. Very nice Justin Grats buddy and Parker Washington rookie Jersey auto going to the Jaguars Congrats Jacksonville EJ Dylan to 99 for the Packers And Michael Thomas to 75 for the Saints Deandre Swift that is a Jameer Gibbs on the rookie for the Lions Got Hall of Fame inductee to 99 Michael Irvin rise to the Hall Jersey card out of 50. There you go, Jace. Nice, dude Rookie auto of Tank Bigs B to 99 for the Jaguars Grats Jacksonville and Roshan Johnson 2399 three colored RPA. Congrats Bears Roshan Johnson to 99. All right last box. Good luck everybody. I think bookish right here Like one booklet a case generally to yes, it is. We got a booklet very nice That is a Michael Thomas to 149 and Jerry McClurin to 50 for the Commanders Stefan Diggs and Jaren Hall rookie that is gonna be a Stetson Bennett to 49 on the two-color rookie patch Nice one there for the Rams Hey, Trey Tucker rookie auto to 49. There you go again Mitchell Nice one. They're pretty nice actually two to 49. Got Deuce Vaughn rookie auto to 49 for the Cowboys And nice one here going to the Bears that is gonna be Tyler Scott 48 to 49 rookie at Jumbo booklet auto Congrats on that one Chicago Very cool. Congrats on that. See you 49 All right, do a quick recap here start with our patches. 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Item number, SCP-3143 Object Class, Euclid Special Containment Procedures Attempts to contain SCP-3143 are ongoing. A Foundation-operated bot, I.O. is meta, is to monitor online fiction communities for signs of its emergence. When found, an authorized member of the Pathophysics Department is to be assigned to deconstruct it. Mobile Task Force I.O.D.A.10, codename, Damn Fred's, is to investigate any leads regarding possible locations of SCP-3143-A. If found, he is to be apprehended and taken into Foundation custody. Description, SCP-3143 is an intrafictional construct. When active, this construct exhibits the ability to temporarily flatten portions of reality into a script-like narrative. This narrative is derivative of the genre established by North American writers of hard-boiled and noir fiction. During this period, SCP-3143 takes on the role of the main character, a 1930s private detective, hired to solve a case. All entities flattened by its effect become characters within the narrative surrounding it, exhibiting personalities and attributes typical of the genre's style. The narrative will continue until SCP-3143's actions lead to a resolution consistent with the genre. At this point, the narrative will conclude and reality will revert. Events which occurred within the narrative will be projected into reality. However, entities involved in these events will typically have no recollection of what occurred. SCP-3143 was first noted in 2005 in the aftermath of a containment breach at Site-95. In 2012, the Foundation's Pathophysics Department worked alongside the Department of Analytics to make contact with and apprehend SCP-3143. SCP-3143-A is Murphy Lawden, SCP-3143's author. Addendum 3143.1, Interview Logs. Access SCP-3143 interviews, 001 Log. Interview Log, date, 2012, February 2nd. Interviewer, Dr. Thalm. Subject, SCP-3143, SCP-3143-A. Note, Dr. Thalm is part of the Pathophysics Department. He has a degree in English Literature and specializes in the analysis of fiction. Fade in, interior, Murphy Law Detective Agency, night. A light-skinned man sits alone in his office. A blade of moonlight cuts across his face. His trademark trail he had is tossed thoughtlessly across his desk. A bent cigarette is nearby, left smoldering in an ashtray. His shirt is stained with blood. Some of it might even be his own.  His name is Murphy Law, and if you think his number is up, then you haven't been counting. He's the sort of man you pray for when you need him and the sort you curse when you don't. He's also our narrator. His voice is a husky snarl as if he's got a throat stuffed full of sandpaper and rusty nails. If there's one thing the foundation's good at, it's tying up loose ends. I knew it was just a matter of time before the lab coats tried to shove me in a box. The door to the office flies open. An old man in a lab coat enters. He's got a scowl so deep it's been carved down into the bone. This is Dr. Thalm, and he's here to get to the bottom of this no matter what the cost. But if they wanted to contain me, they were gonna need a bigger box. Hello, SCP-3143. How are you doing today? He wanted answers. I just wanted out. Murphy finishes the shot of bourbon and levels his pistol at Dr. Thalm's chest. Give me one good reason why I shouldn't ventilate you right now, Doc. Dr. Thalm raises an eyebrow, folding his arms across his chest. Because he can't. If he thought I didn't have the moxie to plug him full of lead, then he had another thing coming. Specifically, a whole lot of lead. You do know that I can hear you narrating, right?  Something wasn't right.  A sapient story that can warp reality. Specifically, you flatten it into a movie script that mimics cramped fictional hardboiled noir. This wasn't... what? And let's be honest, it's not even proper noir. The defining element of the star is the anti-hero. The character with no prospects, trapped in the world with no future. But after reviewing your file, I can see you don't qualify. I don't... qualify? Your narrative is heroic and simple, with clear villains and heroes. In the end, the day is saved without consequence. That's not how it boiled. It's certainly not noir. You just fancy the escapism dressed in a suit ahead in a drinking habit. Where... where are we? What's happening? You rely on the drops of noir, outwardly rejecting the notion of appearances and style while secretly embracing them, engaging in a hyper-masculine narrative based around the myth of the frontier, only projected in an urban environment. What is this? But you fail to faithfully replicate that complex, then setting the moral action as all but impossible.  You are, in a sense, merely paradigm it. An unattentionless attire, if you will. What's... going on? And on top of it all, your name is based on an absurdly contraff pun. What are you doing? I'm deconstructing you, SCP-3143. I'm containing you. I... I don't... understand. I'd like to speak with the author, please. Mr. Lawden, are you there? How...? Hello, SCP-3143-A. Where... am I? Who am I? You're Murphy Lawden, a retired shoe salesman from New Jersey. You live alone, save for your two cats. I'm... Oh, God... How... how did I get here? We believe you accidentally created an infrafictional construct. Do you recall a screenplay of yours? It always rains. I... I think so? I don't... oh, God... I think we've done enough for today, Mr. Lawden. I'll give you a chance to rest and settle in. We can continue this interview later, if that's all right with you. I... yeah. Um, yeah. Okay. Okay, I need to gather my thoughts. Of course. End log. Access SCP-3143-Interviews-002 log. Interview log. Date, 2012. February 3rd. Interviewer, Dr. Thaum. Subject, SCP-3143-A. Begin log. How are you feeling today, Mr. Lawden? Um, a little better? I think... I'm still confused. Good. I understand this must be quite bewildering. So, I've just been trapped. All this time, narrating or writing this ongoing story... My memory of all this is so foggy. Something like that, yes. You found an unfinished copy of your script. It always rains. That's how we determined who you were. God, I remember that. It was... Yeah, I wanted to write a story or something, I think. Something like what I read as a little kid.  Literally, you became the main character, in a sense. Right. So... If it's alright with you, I would like to ask you a couple of questions. Okay. But, can I ask you something first? Of course. You read the script, right? Yes. It was required as a part of my preparation for this assignment. Did you... um... Did you think it was any good? Um... Do you want Frank's assessment, Mr. Lawden? Sure. It was fairly awful. Oh. Now, moving on... Is it okay if we do this later? I think I have a headache. Look, I'm sorry. It's just that I... No, it's alright, Mr. Lawden. You've been through a lot. Take whatever time you need. And log. Access SCP-3143. Interview 018 log. Interview log. Date, 2012, April 16th. Interviewer, Dr. Thaum. Subject, SCP-3143-A. Begin log. Good morning, Mr. Lawden. I see from your charts you haven't been eating. Do you want to talk about that? Not really. I've also been informed that you've been trying to write more fiction about SCP-3143. Until you took my pencils away. Mr. Lawden, that was for your own safety. Until we understand how the anomaly occurred, we can't allow you to...   I didn't say that. But you were thinking it, weren't you?  Why did you have to stop the story? What was the problem? He was helping people. It was fun. That's not the point. We can't have anomalies running around and... And what? Telling stories that you don't like? Stories that aren't yours? Stories that aren't... Excuse me?  We both know what's going on here. I'm not sure what you're insinuating. You use a veneer of objectivity to try and create a sense of distance. Of detachment. To make the incredible seem credible. Wait. What? You cloak yourself in the outward trappings of science. The terms, the titles, the interview logs. All in some desperate, contrived attempt to make it sound a little more reasonable. A little more respectable. A little more plausible. Wait, w-what are you... Stop! You can't! Also, you can convince them to buy into your little story. But at the end of the day, what does it all amount to, Doc? Just one more gimmick. One more swindle. One more way to play the same con. H-how? This-this... I think I constructed you! You can't! When it comes right down to it me, them, hell, even you, we're all just characters in that trashy, dime-store novel called Life. Murphy grabs Dr. Thon by the collar, pulling him close. Sorry to break it to you, Doc.  Murphy throws him aside. But if you're lucky, and play your cards just right, maybe you'll find a way to write your own story. Murphy pauses to light his cigarette. Not me, though. I'm no author. Murphy walks toward the exit. I'm Murphy Law. Dr. Thon struggles to get up, grasping at the edge of the table. As he does, he sees a copy of the interview log on the desk in front of him. The log contains this complete text, with one notable addition at the very bottom. I'm just the guy you call when everything that could go wrong... did. The camera zooms in down to the bottom of the interview log. And log. Warning. The following file is Level 4, 3143 classified. Any attempt to access this file without Level 4, 3143 authorization will be logged and will lead to immediate disciplinary action. Access SCP-3143 files. Email 001-LOG. Date. 2012. March 15th. From Site Director August to O55 Secretary Subject SCP-3143 My thoughts. It might not have worked, but this was nevertheless an excellent test run for Dr. Thon and the Pathophysics Department. I recommend we keep them on the books. They might come in handy, particularly in regards to developing allegorical and metafictional countermeasures. Besides, it's not like a fictitious department with fictitious employees has a costly upkeep. Otherwise, leave the article as is. It might contain several inconsistencies. The fact that neither Murphy Lawdin nor It Always Reigns actually exist being the most glaring, but further edits could invite unwanted attention from SCP-3143. On that note, let's leave SCP-3143 alone for a while. Yes, we've learned quite a bit about him, but he's also learned quite a bit about us. Until we know precisely how his abilities work, further efforts to contain him could be dangerous. I'm particularly concerned with what he said during the final interview. It sounds like he thinks we're all just as fictitious as he is. On a final note, SCP-4233 is currently missing. I'm concerned it might have something to do with our little experiment. I'm having some of my people look into it. I'll keep you updated. Site Director August. Dr. Thaum played by Thaddeus Thaum. Site Director August played by Jeremiah August. Mobile Task Force I-10 played by Fred and Murphy Law played by himself with special thanks to the Panophysics Department. Look for Murphy Law to return in this anomaly for hire. The end.