And here we are Hooray, we did it wonderful world of year four of a fab technically, right? This is beginning of your four Yeah, how does it how does it feel? Oh, you know? Feel it feels four ish you can kind of feel the four or three Three was like reading four is like staring at me Crawling toward you Crawling yes in a very I don't think it would a four a four has one leg So it would just hop around maybe. Oh, I would assume that it just has a little stick arms and legs He's just on the floor trying to Sort of wriggle around and get toward you because his body is so deformed or in the floor He's pretty poor Does everyone says you know zero?   He's working on it though. Jesus. I mean, I just I think he's happy.  Four we become an eight does that imply does that imply that a one? It's like best you can be Maybe one's anorexic. Maybe she has those limitations Because I could believe that a one is anorexic just looking by the shape of it Just a it's just like a that's like a line What about the one that's got the little pointy thing at the top and then the at the bottom of the wine cross got a big nose What two feet big feet? Stick it out either side. Yeah, just to waddle around. I feel like all letters waddle What with the no legs Zero can roll, right? I guess it's three could like turn into an M and then move itself by like Like Yeah, he's like a crab in a way. Yeah, something like the Japanese horror movies where it like it's sped up as it runs towards you And it slows back down when it gets close. Yeah Oh, you know the um in the ring when the the creepy girl when she is walking Uh towards the the TV screen and comes out They had her do that backwards When they filmed it and then they reversed it so that it looked really weird and unnatural Ah, that makes sense. That's why it looks so yeah, that's why it looks so creepy It just seems to be a trope with them. Like, you know in the in the grudge you got the upside down crawling creatures I think and and stuff and They'll either do like the reversey stuff. Well, they'll just Sped them up a little bit. So they're just they're just everything seems wrong Yeah, just something about it. It's off. Yeah They they just they they just did um They shot her in 48 fps and everybody else at 24. So some people would complain Some people wouldn't notice unless he pointed it out to them But but some people were like, yeah, it's just something creepy about her. I don't like it I don't like it And then they use bits of it for the American remakes and it's like, you know, I guess you got that bit The ring Um, well, all of them, right the grudge got around here remakes. There's probably a whole bunch more that I haven't seen I haven't seen there's so many because I'm not really that into horror movies Especially with all the ones coming out these days that just seem so unappealing and uninteresting Like the nun and stuff like that or the boba duke I just like I couldn't I could not possibly care any less Yeah, like I'm most not interested in horror films It's like Hill House and Black Matter those are like weird homilies, you know, it's scary Well, they aren't rags You're boring I feel like that might like why I like them is because they're so character focused like this character work going on The horror elements What I'm there for Well, I think we tried to argue and maybe we will again someday that um actually scarier than Hill House because of The reality of the existence in that house Yeah, I mean I feel like that's totally valid point And you appreciate episode five and what it's telling you Beyond the surface in terms of this is what it's like Yeah, to be aware of what it's like which Peter is clearly aware Yeah, uh, yeah, it doesn't it's not fun Ah So how is everybody look chaps all here doing great things are magical. I'm glad everyone Was able to make it today.  Yeah Sponder boy. I don't know how trailers range boy jr. Well, how many trailers nowadays with like the copyright stuff? I'm assuming I can't show it Without getting people angry at me like the Um, I think trailers can cause blurb CS I'll have to put the copy right. I imagine they probably can Uh-huh. I think even out all of them. It's some of them. Definitely Yeah, everybody's already talked to death about this thing, but e-fap hasn't Nope. I haven't even seen it. I've just heard about it Oh my goodness. Oh, you haven't seen it No, I haven't dying on I don't care about trailers really Not in general Um, I care about this one is selective. This one's like, uh, Ooh, the thing is dumb and so people are talking about it Oh, yeah, I mean, wow, that's been a lot of conversation on this one and like god I'm not looking forward to the discourse when this film comes out The trailer discourse has been bad enough. We will talk about that. Um, well in that case Should we should we play it in full for rags? I on my end will mute it and allow the visuals to be seen here and there And then we talk about it. How's that? All right. Yeah. Yeah, let's um Yeah, let's do it. All right. Here we go three. Well, I'm enjoying it.  That's so weird Everybody's speculating that Matt Murdoch's gonna show up in that scene And again the little Yeah, Dan will fan in me. It's like, oh You got a little devil in disguise there.  Well, we can we'll go without in a sec. Yeah So much commentary. This is just me and you chat so I don't interrupt them listening to the trailer There's so much commentary about this this trailer I'm like I would rather just default immediately to We'll just wait for the movie at all But now we got to be talking about stuff. I really like Dr. Strange Wow, Dr. Strange Simp There's no sound on Pippus. Yeah, come on chat catch up catch up What was Shang-Chi and the Eternals again? Yeah, I don't even know if we're gonna talk about those We're like those are films I think Wee wee wee Damn, that's quite a powerful thing you could do But I want it. Don't worry. You got another minute before rags finishes this trailer And then we're gonna talk all about it. I'm gonna give it a give it a little bit of discussion, you know Yeah, so that's that's the big old concerned face right there, isn't it? The big old concerned Please talk about them so I can stay up to date without having to see them. Look, I'm planning on doing that myself I'm gonna my goodness. It's a train on trains. I'm gonna listen to It looks like a certain kind of train, doesn't it? I'm gonna listen to Fringy talk about the Eternals Oh my goodness gracious. Oh boy Rags, are you hyped? um Oh, I'm the PS5 control all right. Oh, yeah They look better than that xbox one that you just linked them.  So here's the problem It's gonna mean a lot of discourse and like yeah, that scene looks bad. We don't have much context at all Well, if you want to mute so that I'll just play it randomly in the background for visuals now. Um Yeah, like premise wise we got like three splits in this trailer first split is spider-man deal with the fact The whole world knows he's Peter Parker. It's like, okay. Good. Yeah. Yeah, that seems like all right. I'm on board and um You got some some clips of hymns and dire hanging out Which means we can we can probably get developing on that But uh, who knows how long that'll last then it looks like As it should he's getting a rip.  So First and foremost Why arrest spider-man? He saved the world. It's like do we have to watch civil war again? Everybody? Spider-man killed a superhero as far as people know potentially Maybe yeah Like yeah, I can understand. Yeah that he he's gets arrested and then he explains what happens Look at all these drones and what they do and here's the technology going out. They are your drones. It's like, yeah it's gonna be complicated to Thoroughly explain how he definitely didn't do anything to mysterio because mysterio's word against his right now Um, so you got a discredit mysterio Yeah, uh, so, you know, there's a lot to go over To make sure and then of course, there's just the standard like I don't know if they're gonna bring it up in this movie But of course, there's just your vigilante That's also a thing that you're not really supposed to do but that's kind of complex right now because the will We don't know about it the accords even matter anymore and it seems like they don't which is annoying So like I'm fine with him being arrested And I'm also fine with all of the people who knew he was super mad a spider-man being brought in for questioning like so you guys Like you've been you've been helping him out. You've been doing all this kind of stuff Like this this is normal. That's just normal to me. And so that's gonna prompt him to be like, okay It's really bad. The world knows I'm spider-man. I want it to go back that that's all fine That's pretty much the end of the Where I'm where I'm in like like I'm engaged in terms of everything's fine All of that seems to line up make sense to me. I've seen complaints that they put him in a handcuff It's like, why would you do that if you think he's spider-man you'll just break out and I'm just like, um We're still gonna just put him in a hang you should jump at it looks for to break out of a handcuff Yeah, that's the thing. It's one of those, you know, this is this is the physical sign that you're cooperating with us, you know Um, some people suggest the the whatever whatever fury is right now be it foe shield or new shield Whatever should be helping him out. I don't know What exactly could be done against The the local even federal police at this point like like or just just institutions dealing with this I don't know. I don't know if you can just have fury walking and be like, no, it's fine Yeah, you might have been able to do that when he was a part of shield, but We're really far along now in terms of um The progression of this world so we're gonna have to see what uh What they go with with that but Yeah, so he's like I want the whole world to forget I'm spider-man which I think you can allow that for pizza I think you can yeah, he's he's he's not gonna be thinking about the implications of that I do think that it is fair that he didn't think about the implications of that however Dr. Strange probably should have mentioned these things before he decided to help him out Well, so so this is more stuff that frustrates me some people like have you even seen dr Strange's movie? He totally would do a spell even if it's risky and so Dr. Strange in in his movie Most of the rules he breaks is in favor of him getting a greater understanding And more access to power because he's he doesn't like being limited um And that doesn't that doesn't mean he's like lol.  Fuck it unless there is like some very significant context that we're missing here And it has to be significant context Well, yeah, the problem is I'm sitting here and it's like so what are the possible explanations The first one is that it's not dr. Strange. It's like Mephisto or something But there's like there's no that could be the case, but there's no reason to believe that necessarily So the other one would have to be that dr. Strange knows something about multiverse shenanigans that's caused him to think about doing this Even though he's some reason, you know, there's a line that trailer that says we know like frighteningly About it. Well, the problem is Unfortunately, dr. Strange established that there is a multiverse and then Loki said nah, there ain't Who are we supposed to listen to? This is a very well-written cinematic universe.  Some of them are gonna try and destroy others and stuff Good job. It's one Just one.  Yeah They're like that relationship with and she's gone. You'd have to rebuild it from scratch You'd lose a lot with your aunt. You'd lose tons with ned and if someone was to be like that's nothing compared to Like fixing all of this don't I just be like you gotta appreciate this peaches pov Okay, and he is he is like he's 17 at this point, right? So he's he's still like the linden He's young and but his People's unwillingness to let pita fail is very frustrating. I thought that that was I thought we liked it when characters screwed up You know, I'm starting to think that people there are a lot of people who are really biased against mcu spider-man for What? reasons Listen, I just I get this I get this five. I don't want to play arms chair psychologist here or whatever But I just I'm picking up the vibes Well, you get that question but then but then something happens in the third part of their trailer Oh my goodness. Well, I figure we should probably just just to be clear, right?  However There is a chance that he's mafesto and he's not Doctor strange. There's also a chance that he's this is all fake and he's done it as a big old goof to peter What is it? What does it say about the character writing in the mcu currently where we're holding out hope?  Probably not going to be that it turns out to provide context to make some makes more sense There's probably going to be context makes it even worse and we're going to be like, oh for fuck's sake Like doctor strange explicitly says this has a 99.9 percent chance of destroying the universe. Let's do it We're going to be like Well, of course, why is wong telling him not to do it? Like what did he say about about it? Was it just that it's dangerous or did he tell him like I guess i'm curious. How does this spell even exist if the multiverse only existed like a day ago? How would it be still?  You'd have to do more than that You'd have evidence of all of this stuff having happened and you have to get rid of that too And what does it mean that? Mysterio is gone Like what how do people reconcile that in their memories like because that would be a lot Yeah, you have to a lot of work has to be done is the short version of And that would require significant power and the implication here is that the spell screws up because peter's talking Which is like there's no way that they didn't talk about this before he did it, you know Well, it's just another mark on the is doctor strange actually stupid I will not by me a mark against peter too in terms of like shouldn't his first thought regard Oh, I want I want these people to still remember me though Yeah Explicitly yeah Yeah, if you're if you're doctor strange and you're doing this thing for peter You think you'd say something along the lines of now I want you to go home give it some time and I want you to think about this very very carefully Yeah Yeah, because to convince us that he would do this doctor strange is going to need to see that the world is definitely worse off for Knowing that peter is by the man Or yeah, that there's significantly again Or the other thing would be there's something that we don't know about that has to do with multiverse Like there is a possibility that this is all just bullshit Like like you said these could just be the lines that they use for the trailer to like mislead And that that's actually a totally different reason why this is happening But I don't know there's there's a lot. I'm not sure that I can fully fight into that one. Um, yeah, and Yeah, like there are there are like conclusions being made about this film Already and it's just like we have to wait a trailer is almost sometimes it's teasing. Okay Well, I mean, I I think after infinity war showing hulk running with them in wakanda It's like guys like sometimes it's just bullshit Like it's just some people have theorized that the peter we see Opposed to doc arc is actually gonna be toby maguire and that they've subbed in tom holland for now With like CGI stuff That's entirely possible where trailers just delete people from the footage It's kind of like in the last of us too when they put Joel in there and he wasn't in there Yeah A little bit except Well, there's a thing is it's down a motivation, right? One wants to just not spoil the storyline the other one's like, please buy our game. It has your favorite Great, you sure do like him buy the game because you sure do love Joel That's gonna happen to him and Nothing. I like that. Nothing bad's gonna happen. It's like, why would you say that? Why would you say that? No, I'm just nothing bad's gonna happen. I'm just saying Um But then yeah, I guess third axe is Now, I've seen people say this has too many spoilers this trailer and it's like I feel like they showed very little I I think there's gonna be a lot more to this film than is in this trailer Wow, because I probably be a full trailer and I guess my wonder is like Do I even want to watch that one? I feel like The reason why I probably will is because uh these trailers Especially are probably designed to have been seen before you see the film at this point Yeah, yeah, of course the marketing for this film is going to be designed over like a whole year Yeah, probably they're gonna want to run you into the film It's just that um There is like this this film is so it's funny Like it's kind of hyped like it's it's kind of very hype, but like you got to try and tile that in like Other though, there's a lot of these movies. That's just marketing these days is it's so much hype I don't have any hype for the other two model properties coming out soon Well, I mean, I'm definitely I'm definitely more interested in spider-man Chongchi. Oh, yeah Well, no, no, it's not even just about the fact that I know spider-man is like well I actually care about this particular character and dr. Strange Yeah, well that they have that going from spider-man's in the place right now if they can stick the landing Which is like, oh are you gonna do that? But if they do, I'll be very famous or stick in the landing. Yeah, I know I'll be very happy if they do because like spider-man is one of the few characters. I'm genuinely invested in in this universe still Um They could take that right away Well, they could because this movie is clearly going to be massive like in terms of scope and what's happening And it's already pissed off many factions Significantly.  We've got spider-man 2 doc arc and spider-man 1 green goblin and electro Tasm 2 inherently Sandman Probably in it too and lizard and then one more But nobody knows and the thing is um, but we pretty much it's all but confirmed. We've got Garfield spider-man and maguire spider-man coming in why yeah, so Do you think we're gonna have multiverse uncle bends coming in? I team up the uncle beds We're all the uncle bends who died in the multiverse and it's nothing but Thousands and thousands the uncle beds all realize The destiny throughout the multiverse is always to die Just like this grim reality that all of them have to understand.  We know about that somehow uncle ben can become spider-man That's right. Then spider-man was a universe where uncle ben goes on that field trip with uh, peter as a Uh, I don't know chaperone or whatever and he gets bit. Mm-hmm, and he makes He makes super spider rice. He looks in the mirror and says with great power comes great responsibility All people said dead. So when I said a sixth one that is unknown from what I understand There is like sinister six in this but nobody knows who the sixth one is Nobody was meant to know who the other four worry there or three. I guess They think a lot more has spilled about this movie than they wanted to Oh, definitely. I mean, I'm pretty sure they didn't want people to know that there'd be like tome McGuire and Andrew Garfield. I don't think they wanted really hard to keep that under wraps I would I would I would I would almost see said as the the teaser is like, oh my goodness. Is that and So I had imagined the offshot of the next trailer might be the three spider-man. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I imagine Epic confrontation with the service six Oh, no people are saying vulture wait. Oh, uh-oh like oh, why why would he be? Bona Maybe because he didn't give up spider-man, but someone did he wants to I don't know Well, the thing is It can be these characters from any point in history, right? But the problem with that is that uh, I think Kevin Feige is configured like doc arc has been plucked from Like the end of spider-man 2 and so I understand the ramy fans this concerns It's like wait, isn't he a good guy at that point though? Like Right at the end like where are you plucking him from exactly? And then the other concern we've had which is like are all of these villains just going to be like Oh, you cracked open the unit the multiverse. Well, I still want to beat you spider-man I hope yeah, well my hope would be that I Guess the problem is you're gonna have a lot of them It seems because like you can see the evidence for a lot of them in the trailer and it's like man Do we have enough time? Like how long is this movie? Vulture mystery when the Lego set I've not seen anything for Jake Gyllenhaal coming back. Um I've no maybe that's the one secret. They managed to not leak I mean he well, I mean we talked about he might not be dead like that's that's always been Yeah, I There's so much that's gonna happen in that third act so much action so much spider-man versus spider-man villains Yeah, probably going to be really crazy and it's probably going to be really fun.  I've been being too much been being too much. Yeah, I know I know that's probably like at this point and especially like once we you know like Chong cheese out this week can be five for five confirmed very soon And once that happens, it's like man, we are just in a dark era for this universe. I've heard it's a triumph I don't know like if we you know everybody keeps standards triumph. Yeah, I have heard and would they lie. I don't think so Remember when they all said the black panther was 10 out of 10 should get an Oscar and stuff. They were right about that And then it nearly did that was crazy Oh Then it nearly did Yeah And then fortunately it was Into the multiverse one an oscar and that was that was much much better Maybe I'm happier. Um, oh, yeah the other the other potentialist kingpin might be one of the bad guys in this too I man the pro I hear some it's there's so many rumors about spider-man and kingpin like Apparently kingpin is all but confirmed to be in hawkeye and hawkeye is meant to tie into this film kind of So I Yeah, I I wonder And it seems like dad was going to be showing up and other stuff too. That's that's like she-hulk in that echo show Yeah, man Everybody else has been left to the white side though. Nobody wants to bring her over iron fist And we're kind of just sort of the third act stuff We're kind of accepted like but oh god. I'm not looking forward to having to think about it Where it's like so you cracked open the multiverse and a bunch of Peter Parker specifically spider-man villains Fight spider-man like what it's what in the world will be the context to make this the thing that happens, you know I guess you could try and lean into like They're not exactly from like the ramy films or exactly from the Maze and spider-man films But universes where they're similar, you know, you could try to do that But it almost feels like they don't want to do that You want them to be as close to the originals as possible to tap into that nostalgia. Yeah. Yeah Or else. Yeah, they were just totally different. Why I mean marketing exactly I could just picture like, you know, Willem Dafoe and Alfram Alina show up and they're like time to fight and then like the whole world's crumbling apart in terms of the multiverse And they're both like oh man, we should probably fix that actually Instead of having a little fight with Spooderman Yeah, unless there's some kind of thing, you know, there's like oh, you need the the multiverse correcting loom juice The Dark Strange has and they all need to attack him to get it or something I suppose that's the conversation though is like Yeah, far from home like plotters is like barely holding together, but Mysterio was was was great and Vulture was excellent So that's that's something right like why do why do we expect that? This is going to be dessert or not. Why do we expect that it will be disastrous? It's like, hmm They're now on the millions twice. Yeah. Yeah, I guess it is the phase four is the corrosive elements Um Because I think that's because I kind of don't expect the plot to be good in this one But if they get the characters right, I'll at least be happy Yeah, maybe the best that we can really hope for is a suicide squad scenario. Yeah, bad plot the great characters That's what I'm hoping for That's what the mcu just ends up being for years. Then you know what?  So it's like, yeah, you can it's fine Like it would literally be because peter wants to do something and dog strange he was telling him not to and then you know, maybe Um It's very unclear and Like if shang chi fails if the eternals fails, but then this is successful I have no idea what we're supposed to conclude about the state of the mcu Yeah, I what are they gonna do are they gonna just Are they gonna have an investment to lean more heavily on the mainstays that they still have Is it gonna speed up more guardian stuff? Is it gonna speed up more dr. Strange stuff? Is it gonna more spider-man stuff? That's an interesting thought, isn't it? What would be the consequences of shang chi and eternals didn't do as well as we're expected? Because they have to I mean in a in an ideal world They would recognize that. Oh, yeah, that's right.  You'll be good Maybe maybe it will be good. Maybe eternals will be a triumph to Maybe if all be triumphs there will there will never be another non triumph Yeah, it was just an awkward all could crumply start to phase four, but now now Good. Yeah, we got all the bad stuff out of the way. It's all bangers from here on out We destroyed the universe and several favorite characters now we can focus on good storytelling Yeah, now that we've gotten all that out of the way Um, some people say what about the train bit does look like stock strange and peter are fighting It's like I don't really know what's happened there. No, yeah, it looks like that train that train looks like the spider-man 2 train. I will say looks like the train I just I just don't know. I don't know if who's attacking who or if they're just trying to make it through Maybe it's some kind of weird multiverse traveling thing. I don't know I think it is because it looks like it's in the grand canyon for some reason I could picture them doing a whole sequence with spider-man's like falling through the multiverse with strange trying to catch up with them, you know Maybe yeah, and then we might be fine all of these set pieces from the other films. Yeah Well, yeah, this movie is gonna probably have really cool visuals in it and a crazy crazy adventure going through all kinds of stuff, but Oh boy, will it make any sense at all? Nope always Yeah Well, it's just we're all like the the thing about it is we could have gone to see it and it'd been fine But now we got this trailer. It's like Now you've told me some of this stuff. I'm like, oh, I'm more worried than I was before Yeah No, I'm not a happy position, but um Hopefully we can get a five. That'd be nice That'd be nice. We could get a five. Yeah All right. Yeah, that's that's about that really The terror just washes over it's just what we're it's just where we are now five Well, um, I'll have a look in chat Ask some questions if you want to know our perspective on anything to do with this trailer because I feel like we've covered it but I just I'm curious if there's anything else because it's uh It's just been talked about everywhere infinitely and You got when it comes out You got predictable takes from a lot of the people who are just fans of a particular aspect be it Rami's stuff Or dr. Strange is a character or uh the I don't know like the the the the inclusion of multiverse being a thing now and what that means because everyone's doing it Skeptic as fuck about this film.   We all liked electro, right? Yeah He was all right. Yeah Favor for jimmy and shipping Because it really helped us out that one time So we get to he gets to have a thing in a movie that he likes The problem is that jimmy is kind of retarded and he loves electro so They need to bring in bully maguire. That's needs to be one of the the villains. Yeah You need you wonder the mean potential of stuff like that and if it means they'll actually do it Because they did it and into the spider-verse they referenced it, right? Yeah, they did they did the meme dance They're doing a lot of memes in that movie But I wasn't good movie is very fun.  The poor guy was trying Yeah, I did his best to defend spider-man 3 But yeah, like you see like electric explosions and stuff in this just like yeah, electro is probably in it too He'll he'll be shown in the next trailer. I imagine Probably her man green goblin Maybe not or maybe electro. I don't know Oh, sorry.  Do you think he'll be in the uh, everyone's hoping he'll turn up Everyone's hoping Well, they have like a you know like the hero shot in uh in the suicide squad You have that for the villains and he's just with the green goblin and everyone else like red Yeah, or maybe like Like pizza time feels like a meme that we could get in there You know, like yeah, you could squeeze a pizza time in there What would be the memes for andrew goffield's like what what would his meme be? That's a no, but you do have the the andrew goffield fans who are all hoping that he's taken care of as well Um, yeah, I want him to be yeah, I want to be okay. I think he made a good spider-man Him him a spider-man was certainly not amongst the problems with those films No, I was absolutely like the material itself not him Yeah, I would feel kind of bitter in a way if I was him and I was chosen to be the next spider-man And they fucked it up andrew goffield had spoken about how he was unhappy with how he was treated Especially after the amazing spider-man 2 like with the way he's treated by the studio Wasn't this the thing it's gonna be hard him or well Oh, it was just like apparently like poor communication just um I I can't remember exactly but amazing spider-man 2 was not as successful as it was supposed to be And um And then of course, so I think for a time That was like is he actually going to come back because he did say that he wasn't happy with how he was treated I mean, it seems like it's so this is the thing it goes It goes beyond the studio, right? This is more of an event.  Come back for the fact that they're combining all of the new who doctors which would have been Just an event But I think he I think he didn't come back on principle now. He's back doing audio stuff So I think he's changed his mind But in the same way, it's like I would get an toby more quieter come back andrew can come on come on man Like this we want to get one chance to do this Which there's an interesting irony there in terms of like you had them all on board for the star wars and they didn't put them together I guess Yeah, that's true. That's right and It was like a missed opportunity and maybe for there's an element of like, hey, this is like closure You can get closure on this this character kind of yeah Who'll come back it'll be really cool and then and then that's it and you can move on Well, so the one of the prevalent theories right now is the toby maguire will die in this storyline and then Andrew Garfield we've got a big question mark over in terms of I wonder if they'll implement him to the mcu Or if we're gonna see him again in a multiverse story or if he'll just leave But we'll get closure on how he's a happy spider-man in his universe, you know yeah That would be nice Weird apology sort of thing if that's yeah, yeah That would be nice actually oh and at least we didn't fuck up your character in a way At least you were able to give your character something nice, which is something And I I'm sure the fans even people who don't like the amazing spider-man sequels so Earth maybe they'd be you know, maybe they'd be like, you know what I'm I'm all right. I'm glad I'm glad things, you know Worked uh worked out. I'm not upset Like I don't know how many people really don't like Andrew Garfield spider-man for him I don't think it's many people at all. I think there are people who are big fans of him He was um, he was a big fan of spider-man Which is what helped him out with a lot of fans. He was like It was like his dream role or whatever Man man, that is unfortunate to think about how it turned out, isn't it? Damn.  He was Significantly invested in in doing that Yeah And then yeah, then that didn't pan out It's getting depressing now These people who are really passionate that it just didn't pan out This is just so many things that could have happened and and the place we've ended up in a lot of ways for movies and just Meteor in general It's like man, it doesn't feel like we're in the upper echelon feels like we're in the lower one But you know, yeah, we're we're in the slump. It feels like we grab the highlights where we can Um, so interesting That they mentioned that I was talking to as in gary on real vvc was the potential for you see a shot of happy hogan Um with some guns on him or whatever. It's like, what if what if he's foggy nelson from the 2003 daredevil movie?  I don't feel like they want a reference 2003 Well, that's the thing I think you'll gain way more approval from people when you you do warts and all you're like, yeah You know what that was a thing in our history. It's fine Well, I mean, I'm pretty it seems like with multiverse stuff now The rumor is that somebody from the x-men universe will be in doctor strange too Like somebody significant. Yeah Well, so that's worth mentioning now. Um We're in a very worrying time for how if this really works, then they're gonna be like, all right So shang chi too, we're gonna have to bait several cameos in order for people to see this film. Yeah Cameos is the way to run out of cameos to actual characters You probably yeah, who eventually you'll run out, won't you?  I thought he died, but he didn't actually died I mean with the multiverse that it's almost like I guess you could easily see iron man, right? Like just with how this works There would have to be other iron men who survived, right? It would only make sense And so yeah, it gets concerning because uh, the story's gonna mean a whole lot less soon Could the doctor strange is like only what does that even mean if there was a there was only one Way that it was gonna go also think about infinite, right? Yeah, and also infinite. That's right. Yeah Because you know that timeline, but someone had a coffee instead of Black coffee or something in the morning. You know, you already mean like just like well now we got two and three four and it's just infinite Yeah Yeah, and besides nobody ever believed doctor strange when he said there's only one way we win.  Nobody believes you Look at the end game battle to see how many ways they could have won that they just chose not to Oh, yeah one chance If we got captain marvel to fly the gauntlet out of here, we would have lost Captain marvel's aware the gauntlet imagine they told her, uh, you know captain marvel put it on snap them all away And then she's like, I don't want to die I'm a i'm a hero.  This is my good hand. Give it to that guy the the the old dude She would be indestructible Well, yeah, she wouldn't hurt her Nervous to damage well as we saw a Thanos head buttoner and it didn't work Didn't do anything Just it was like a dunk. He's a powerful beating um Yeah, that's that I suppose not much else to say, uh, we will obviously check this movie out when it comes out in Assuming december if not delayed. I don't know if well, so from what it seems Uh, if shang chi doesn't do as well as I want eternals will get delayed And I don't know if that will affect spider-man because it's sony They might still keep it. I guess for them it will be venom. How does venom go? Seems like we're in that weird time where it's like, hmm. Nobody really knows what the limits of anything are anymore Well, I think the thing is is because black widow's shed release makes things complicated Where shang chi is just theaters. So that would and the rest of these movies are just theaters So that'll give us an indication I guess like I mean, uh Yeah, shang chi and the eternals if they both come under their, um Their hoped sort of stuff. It just just feels like we're going to be switching gears hardcore Yeah Well, because I guess they're in this weird position where it's like for the mcu to have long-term sustainability they need to introduce new character to people like, um And we'll want to keep seeing so like yeah, you kind of need these movies to do well to make sure that people Are out, you know, and maybe maybe shang chi is a cool guy We'll have to see but like you'll worry we'll watch the eternals trailer like is anyone in that gonna Be able to sort of stand out and people will be like, oh, I really love that guy. He's really good It feels like I guess yeah, that film has like 10 men characters. It looks like I know it's all great.  They destroyed in the two hours. They gave her That's true. Yeah, like they're the solo movies sort of We were at like it's just like yeah Will shang chi become someone that we want to see in the future or like well, that was a film I guess I get the impression the base story of shang chi is incredibly conventional And that feels like a good thing to me, you know, just like do something straightforward like I just want to be a good man who does good things Like if you do because you know, if you've done that you're doing better than the mcu has been doing in phase four So far whether or not good people Yeah, they're actually pretty villainous If he's a good guy then like that's something at least Like that if the hero was a good person that'll be that'll be nice And I wonder if they'll actually ever throw a line in this for why dox strange doesn't deal with one division at all You kind of wonder where even is this film in relation to the three shows Oh, right I think the time from what I understood isn't the timeline that like far from uh far from home was after one division and uh falcon winter soldier I think falcon winter soldier was six months after the snap and it was eight In in far from home and I'm guessing that this is pretty shortly after far from home Which means we really do need dox strange to account for that. Well, I guess well Yeah That's the problem like wet because loki is in this weird place. It's directly after endgame kind of Technically loki sits both before and after right like it's weird things that way because yeah I don't know. Remember they're at the end of time when they kill kang Which means everything going forward from the end of time is like uncontrolled, but then everything From all time is splitting off everything.  I don't think so So we don't have the power as three people Like it significantly influenced the profitability of the most successful film franchise in history We do however have the power to criticize it Maybe we can get dr. Strange to cast a spell The mcu never existed The mcu just didn't happen think of it does make you wonder what what kind of What are all of the movies that would have been made if the mcu didn't happen? There was no superhero stuff. It wasn't an interest. It wasn't quite in vogue again Um, it used to the movies didn't do that. Well, we get one here and there, but what would disney be doing? Prime work star wars, maybe. Oh, I don't know The problem is I don't know what disney because like at this point disney don't make A lot of original like live action films anymore You remember when they used to like they used to kind of make new live action films that were Based on new ideas Why do that much anymore because now it's just a remix. I don't even know which ones you're referring to So I remember in like the early in in the 2000s. They were like the princess One where the she comes to the real world and she used to be a cartoon. Yeah, yeah, that was enchanted, right? I was almost gonna say enchantress. It was like wait, no the suicide squad That was enchanted remember the titans somebody mentioned chat that was one Tron well tron, I mean, that's a sequel but like that's a sequel to a film that was like 35 You know one sequel I don't want to count tron because they wanted to they wanted to turn tron into a franchise that's different Damn now I liked tron legacy. I thought it was okay, but I haven't seen it Yeah, I can't remember much about it I guess I pirates of the caribbean feels like oh well people starting to just mention animated films Time will print a Persia adaptation but again, it's like that's Something compared to what we're doing now where it's remaking the old animated ones And it's only a matter of time until they start like remaking the ones that don't seem so old like Tangled they'll probably make that a live action thing I get worried about if they're gonna live action Pixar movies though that scares the hell out of me Yeah, when we get one of them, it'll be The fears will have been realized finding Nemo, but with real fish Like the Lion King real realistic looking clown You know how expressive fish are right? Yeah with all those special expressions all one of them Hey, that's that's one more than zero. How do you feel? I mean Pretty sure there's like seven or eight live action films from disney coming out like the next two years alone God What is going on? We don't care. They're gonna come for emperor's new groove and like treasure planet.   So yeah, everything's playing in in line for us. So if this doesn't work Then uh, you have to just have a huge board meeting The day they do a little stitch live action is the day I die inside. I got bad news for you That's definitely happened Definitely. Yeah It's yeah, I'm pretty sure it's already been announced. That's happening on disney plus Yeah Well, yeah, we didn't even watch the lady in the tram live action. Oh, that's that. Yeah, that's right.  Yeah, I think yeah, I think he made it up for that.  And then when americans say it fast it sounds like windy windy Very windy. It's very windy over here. Very windy. Yeah So that's that. Um, we as you can see we're hyper Positive about all of this. It was funny.  Whoo Yeah, like as if that's enough was if that's ever been what we do It's not it.  Yeah probably I'm looking forward to seeing strange and peter interact. I'm looking forward to seeing the fun multiverse stuff looking forward to To the good stuff. Hopefully good stuff coming in I don't know how it's going to handle in total, but yeah, well, we'll have to Spare me Which um Yeah, that leads us to i'm gonna i'm gonna Read us we're gonna spend the rest of the stream trying to catch up with super chats from 150 because of course 150 was um Big flump. It was like 20 How many hours was it in total actually not disregarding the breaks All right, it was like 24 and a half. I think 17 e-fab. Don't get me. What did I say? 23 it's like 24 and 20 minutes or something like that So The closest we actually came to the amount of time it's supposed to be because the first one we did rags was 29 hours Do you know that episode 50 the first one? Yeah And the second one was 20 well 30 hours. I think well 31. I can't remember which was the nightmare, but Man, man, do you just do you just really want to go to sleep and get to that point, you know Yeah It's uh 29 that's asking a lot guys Yes, it is. Um What i'll do is we'll combo up today's ones with stream labs And we'll get them done and then we'll just jump right into the to the rest. Um Yeah, let's do it. We may have a gym and when joining us at some point. I don't actually know I believe he is the busy potentially Um, I'm sure he missed what you want to talk about some spoodleman as well, but it's too late for that Missed the opportunity no more talking about spoodleman grab you What what legar game are you playing?  Yeah crazy Breaking all the rules today So I've just seen it. I've seen a trial and pop up of my YouTube fade dug days starring dug from up to see plus Man Man, I don't know. I like dug. He's he's a good boy character against the show now, you know He's a good boy, but I I get and I'm not even like that big fan of up. I I like up, but I think helps all overrated Um, yeah, like even this upsets me kind of I don't know like it just it shows their mentality Yeah, just everyone everything just pump it out make the shows. Well, what if it's great guys? It could be I'll be shockingly surprised. It could be great, but I guess it's just white. I don't know Would I guess that's because I'm sitting here.  It was high e fappers high rags.  Well, I mean, I think what were the rules?  I'm gonna be gay for a while now depending on What happens next we'll have to see what where it goes. Hello free moly. Oh great. Just great Hello free moly and rags and chat. Hope everyone's having a great day Looks like we're gonna get nothing, but he's arrogant to justify strange that That's not Yeah, I don't know I don't know if they're gonna go that route and I wouldn't buy it if they did You're gonna have to do better than that.  That doesn't seem very good no um When spider-man comes out, do you think Hassan's chair will watch it?  Yeah, like that one. I do prefer the normal suit. Yeah There's a lot of discussion about the suits and it's just kind of like I don't know What are we supposed to do about this in terms of like what I? Well, I would say what I don't like about the suits is we've got to show the actor's face We've got to we've got to take that helmet off. We're going to take that mask off all the time to show the actor's face It's like nah Can we not do that? Can we just have them because why would you ever take a? Yeah, I don't know. I feel if it was like almost you're losing the element of Like it's something you wouldn't do in a video game because the recognizability of an actor's face is Relevance like for whatever story purpose did you have it feels like a movie thing? Gotta see their face can't just happen in costume Yeah, but we're definitely at that point even though. Yeah Yeah Is a shame Don't we make these I have forgotten a lot about how to control this game Chat be ready to be disappointed in how I play this game because I I don't remember it We want all of the kits. Yeah, okay. Your factories are poor Oh Well, I just say rags Well, you said we but I guess rags doesn't feel as though you speak for him, you know, that's just I will for I look down upon your factories. Oh my good I need for this iron plates. All right Actually, no, it's not that oh metal. How'd you get in here? I was I opened the door terrifying It was terrifying. I was gonna say why is this such a draft? You know some sort of air command. Oh, by the way We did talk about it, but I posted the statistics there for the hbr movie Max movie releases for the first 17 days mortal combat 5.5 million us households Godzilla vs. Kong 5.1 million us households the suicide squad 4.7 million us households Wonder Woman 1984 3.9 million households zaks night is just league 3.2 million households And then the conjuring I don't care Conjuring it. So the suicide. So that means the suicide squad was the best debut on the service. Really? Oh, that's good. I like that. No, sorry the best debut of all the dceu film Sorry, it's the third best behind godzilla and mortal combat I still not bad Well, yeah better than the rest of the dceu films And wonder. Hmm. That's interesting to think about isn't a matter of hbr max has grown significantly since wonder woman kept because wonder woman was when like That whole every like theaters were all closed. It was like in full swing that you couldn't go watch movies basically So that's interesting. I think I I think that's I just wish I lived in the world Where we had the clear numbers on like how well or badly things actually did like in covid conditions like how badly did wonder woman 84 do because Dude, like just regular movie going people like don't like that film Most of them don't it seems like very few people are fans of that film Which one sorry like Wonder Woman 84 a lot of people just find that film weird and stupid It is weird and stupid.  We had fun with it, right? China it was I do wish that kano or johnny cage was the Instead of this this new Goro with his little sticks.  Yeah, lame Yeah, for a movie that's trying to be cool.  Maybe it could be a buddy cop Thing They're trying to be good guys and it's really difficult You can't help but kill people just trying their best Do better That's right. Do better kano. Yeah, I already did the best I could Well, that isn't good enough Like when he fought lizard that was that was awesome and just reptile. Yeah Yeah, uh lizard why let's I'm think of spider-man Yeah Um It's all a trailer. It makes me afraid the doc strange character Makes me afraid for dr. Strange's character remaining intact. Yeah Yeah, perfectly fair fear. That is the fear that I think uh Yeah, we're just gonna be sitting there rocking back and forth like please Don't do this You have a choice It was like Choice was never an option not in kain's world. No Turn 21 yesterday. I have some birthday money. Also high fringy high molar and high rags. Hello. Oh, hey Happy birthday Please god don't let dead devil be in no way home. They might ruin him like strange Yeah, yeah, so I'm of two minds on the one hand. I've said this so many times I like the legitimacy of like, yeah dead devil happened in this universe and it counts but I get very worried about the future with like of having these characters be in like face forward onwards That gets me concerned I doubt they do the dead devil show, you know, like that doesn't feel like something that they would have in the mcu You know, like that not something that they would do on disney plus Because it kind of You've necessitated. I would say that if you want to be Homics accurate or you know, try to lean more into it than you need to go more mature, but it's been established as Mature so to have it just go to like pg-13. No blood. No anything controversial would be like It's surprising Yeah, I get I do wonder if like dead devil is gonna count. Does that mean punish is gonna be You think they'd bring him in Um Yes, but if they did would he just be like Really chill and normally like he punches people and they fall over and you're like, hey punisher Well, yeah, it goes like we're not really taking advantage of punisher Well, maybe they could just have t'challa talk to him and calm him down Or understanding guy and he'd chill out calm down and he'd see the world in a different way Have a different perspective on things. Maybe All it takes is one good argument Yeah Thank you to charlotte Fucking chris pratt. I wonder if he's seen that what if episode I wonder if james gun has seen it dragon. He would be like, oh my god. That was so cringe. Yeah, it was great It was great. The It was so awesome. We've got so many creators doing so many different things. Wonderful. It's so great. Imagine the possibilities It's all equally good Like the black widow review miau la favorite parts are all the cameos with jays tizmy ramp being the best He really evoked the quotes confusion.  But yeah, oh, hey, she maybe just got away kind of like that makes sense. Yeah Sort of go with it. It's fine.  I don't play not going anywhere Yeah, I'll hang around for a bit longer if you guys want Like a few years Good decades Great. Yeah, fine There we go. Oh look at my first tiny factory I'm I'm learning I want to start it up your stream for the second. I thought you were playing dune Look, he's a super old dune game. I don't even I wouldn't even know what that is I'm playing like a really cool game Where what when you when are you doing that? Right now look it's a cool game I got wood powering my little arm thing and coal power in that and then it's cold wood in here Gosh, I'm just so good at doing things. Oh, you have a you have a wood powered arm too. Yeah In the wood and you're on Look where it's going Hi, shiba inu candy taiwan rags is made into candy really wild also high rags Wow I'm made of candy. Hello rags is pretty sweet make sense Oh Why are we talking about sputum and when spider-man is coming out would that spell also erase his identity from the avengers? uh i'm a I That's you know, that's a fair question. If he's gonna be like, I'll erase it from everyone. You're like, oh You might have some significant results doing that. I don't know. You gotta be careful. Mr.   None of us want that stop it I want a little bit. No, you don't Okay, you're ruining it Sorry Hmm. I can't remember how these work. I'm just gonna have to do a lot of uh, A lot of experimenting with this Why shield wouldn't she'll be able to explain that he's in the clear? Shield's not a thing It's very complex. We're gonna have to figure out. Well, we're gonna have to see what they say about everything in this universe in terms of what's happening It'll be rather co-delegates, right? Oh, yeah, they'll explain it thoroughly It's not like they're busy doing other things in this film right now No, no, no, it's gonna be great I'm sure this goes without saying but holy moly did meme do a fantastic job with a snider cut Please give that man that saint all of our appreciation also high rags Hey there. Oh, yeah, I told him he's a good fleam when that was over. Oh, that's nice of you I didn't plan to watch it all the way through where I was just lying in bed watching. It's like, oh, I'm gonna watch it all Yes, it's uh, it's quite a journey Yeah, so much. It's that was a long project. Hope you guys enjoyed Not not like I'm threatening.  I got me some poepts whichever look here put her ear Yeah The background is all just like Poor guy Shed Is that does the water come through even just when I do that? All right. I ain't judging I'm judging.   There's no way they do that, right? Hmm Can't be sure It makes me sad that we can't be sure Yeah, what are you gonna do is just like well, that's what we're faced with being the potential right now Unlike you might be like, oh no, I have the confidence the rise wouldn't do that. It's like I'm afraid I don't um Oh, we'll have to see Do you catching up with the batwam in content? Love y'all you should react to arrow season one cw assassinated all of her later on But in season one he was a good character I don't believe that Not even in season one that he was a good character for you really I don't really believe I hear people say that arrow season one is good And I I imagine it has a lot of similar problems to like the current stuff in terms of structural plotting And just dumb things about them that I don't like personally but Ever think that maybe you hate too much Hey, look, all right Why are you choosing to be blinded by hate? He goes on fun little adventures Oh, I'm gonna need copper all right Always with I have some poop here. All right. Honestly. I appreciate that but I just poop wasn't really what I was looking for but I understand Okay, yeah More like they're saying that you need a pump. You need to respect the pump. All right.  How bad is dr. Strange also high rags? We don't know No, I think they're talking about the movie. We don't know yet. Oh, I don't know yet.  I'm seeing you pretty like he made I don't remember making really dumb decision. Dr. Strange. Well What what about the movie? The movie school doctor strange All right, I see now. Yeah, the movie is pretty dumb like there's a lot of things wrong with it I didn't like it. But yeah, it's it's the magic system. We we just do not care at all about making it make sense Yeah I thought we were talking about the spudermanon Well, they might be they could be all three.   There's a couple of bits Main one Is how stupidly he doesn't use his portal in the mirror verse when he's being chased by kaesilius.  I'll never understand that somehow. Yeah There's there's there's some stuff. Yeah, if that's what you're asking He's that good. He's that good Um, also rags any opinion on guild wars 2 end of dragons expansion No, no, I hope it's not full of weeb shit Let's say that how could you say that?  Why aren't you getting me more stuff?  All right Isn't spider-man well known for working with iron man. It wasn't iron man beloved by people So why would the public turn on pita because he's apparently killed a hero?   What did he what did someone's like? Well, we like keanu reeves. I'd be like, um Did you hear the pot with the killing? Yeah It was a little bit awkward. Why are you seeing that? so, um Yeah, I'd have a lot of concerns. I'd be like, man, this is not it's not looking good. I uh So I understand and you know mysterio would have gained a shit ton of fans, you know passionate ones So, um, it's a matter of getting all of the truth out. I just don't know what the timeline is I don't know if it's easy for pita to prove everything about mysterio or not Maybe if if he's got all the stuff, but like that's got to get out there And there's still gonna be people who would be like, I don't believe you mysterio is a good guy I believe it. Yeah, I mean exactly um Hello there, please pass this 20 along to meme for his fantastic work It inspired me to actually make the dceu superman slash jesus imagery breakdown.  It's just random crosses and stuff Yeah, what so so hollow. Yeah It's like, oh, it's so meaningful. Put his arms out. He's like he put his arms out.  Oh Don't go wrong with an air horn Maybe can't actually I'm just unaware of it, you know Maybe if it's like an air and it bites you probably wouldn't want to use that one. That would be horrible Yeah, wouldn't want that go away tree Whoa, yeah, sorry about that. I didn't mean to sound so aggressive I don't agree with that. I need more pipes. So he does Oh Gonna need more other things too um Assassinating characters is what the mcu does best Right now. Yeah, pretty good. Pretty good at it. Yeah If that's a niche they want to carve for themselves. They're doing a pretty good job. Yes We're the ones that are really good at doing that. You're like, that's so great for you Happy you found something And yeah, this the thing that's what built up the mcu. It wasn't just relying on household names It was they did character work. People were like, wow, I actually care about these people. That's neat Not anymore Or at least spider-man. Yeah Not for the foreseeable future Hello, everyone. I got your plushies for my one year old I'll send a picture of with them on a fringin metal plushie random question. Why does everyone say also high rags also high rags Hi, oh my god Why do they say that that's ifap what seven or something you can find that out Tail is all this time Yeah, you you you can't be told why that happens You have to go and search it out which you can find on like ifap.me And other assorted things. You know what we hadn't mentioned that we probably should Those who don't know mean ranks are running a plushie campaign as they are called And uh, yeah, I guess just to be sure. Yeah, they're um, you know Some of you guys may not have heard about it yet the cuddly little mubishly and raggles toys They're true. This guy he bought one the super chatter right before you And he loves he's already he's already happy incredibly satisfied with um With the rags one you get adorable doggos all soft and cuddly And with the mola one you get an eldritch horror that can watch movies with you I don't see what else you'd need at that point. You've got the two ends of the spectrum That is actually cuddly that they made one of each as prototypes And sent them to us and it is incredible. We can confirm the cuddliness They're Shockingly gorgeous and very friendly. They don't hit you. Um So, yeah If you're interested in these things you've only got 10 more days before they run away from the internet forever The way that works is they lock in a number and then they just start production in like a big old plushie factory and then they send them all out Um, they come in nice little boxes as well You would think that a plushie factory would be very soft, but it's probably just like A regular factory. Yeah, it's probably just a regular factory.  No, that can still it can still happen. Oh Kind of rose Yeah, uh, get yours today. Unfortunately the links aren't in the description. I guess they will be on the re upload Okay, you can use that but But now You can just search. I think more and rags plush into google will literally pull them up And I think we're on the front page of makeshift right now. So there you can find us. Yeah, I think so makeship.com and you'll see us there hanging out and of course if you pick them both up You get a 10 discount for the the the efap generation one collection It's wonderful one flying other generations to come Well, the thing is I was I'm more than happy to consider a gen two if we got the 100 funded We're at 800 and something percent funded. So It seems people like these things so we will consider more I imagine Slender more When you squeeze them all plushy at satism if only That would be funny Um from what I understand makeshift are probably gonna, you know, grow and evolve little plushies over time So you might get it to the point where they start adding stuff like that. I know they have ones that glow in the dark now Oh, that's nifty. Yes um It's uh, I honestly it seems to me that like loads of uh sort of channels that are running with makeshift now It's just a really sort of easy way to just get something that fans are gonna want and everybody's happy sort of thing Yeah, they do look great. They really do a good job. Yes, they do Good job. Check them out if you want to check them out. I suppose All right Where are they made? Um The factory switzbekistan, I don't actually know You sure I'm not sure I'm ordering I'm ordering them right now. So no one has any Reason not to do so the same. Wow. That's true. It's not like I get like if metal does it like do you have no excuse kind of thing? Yeah. Yeah Okay Even raise like, I don't know about that. It's like you can't roll over there. Jesus. I'm promoting here.  You're just asking a question If talk strange had powers like this, why didn't he make Thanos forget his goal? That is like, why was I doing any of this? I don't remember where what why is this army for I don't even Why am I a robot?  I'm all alone. I don't like it Yeah, and doc strange gets all upset. He's like, oh, I shouldn't have done this actually. I feel kind of guilty. That's mean. Yeah um Who owns the movie rights to madame web, I think she'd fit in this more than doc just Tony owns those who's madame web he's like Spider-man character Kind of kind of so yeah, sony owns her madame web. They own the film rights They must I Will grab the oh gosh, put that there. There we go Time to power up my devices using water Because I'm a man of industry so you can say Gosh, this is I'm just so efficient at factory making um By any chance, did you watch the six-part tv series dash boot 1981? If not, why what's wrong with you? I thought you're like good media um really into fashion. I think cruella just sort of Turned me off that kind of thing and I'm just Like I appreciate a good boot. I do. Um, I just I don't know like like you said after cruella. It's getting a bit tough to sort of even pretend to be interested in boots now Um, but maybe it's good because it's from 1981 and boots back then they were made different Yeah, maybe the boot world was just different. That's true So, um, yeah, you know, we'll have to give it a shot I think it's way too generous to assume strange as Mephesto or that it's a trick Remember when people assume Mephesto would be behind everything in Wanda vision Yeah, but you have to wait until it ends before you can be sure right? And that's all we're saying. Let's just just give it a give it a chance. Give it a sec Maybe but I guess I guess we'll see but uh because like saying this way too generous Like I don't know. Is there anything such as that with a trailer? Like, you know, who knows Because if it turns out to not be Mephesto, there's no like, ah, you were wrong. There's just no, there's just not Mephesto Yeah It's not a race to be the first to have the Correct take especially if your take was based on guessing Like what what does that work? It doesn't mean anything. It's not. Yeah, exactly Everybody's in a rush to have look at my takes. How correct they are. Look at the house Right.  That's a it's a really fun show silicon valley Silicon valley. Yeah, the silicon valley is it's a little bit different I don't see plenty of silicon valleys in my time, but No, this is silicon silicon valley about a group of people trying to make and the compression algorithm and then it Tones and whole bunch of shenanigans from there. It's made by uh, the guy who did king of the hill. I feel like I feel like if a rewatch king of the hill, I'd appreciate it more when I was a kid I didn't get it. Like it always it was always this like odd one out where I'm like, I kind of like it but I You know, I don't I I think it was just yeah, because you're so immature. You didn't understand the themes Like all I remember what well, I do remember a bit more about it But like what I distinctly remember was propane like that being a thing like propane I think yeah, I just I think I think I didn't really get it but from what but that that uh silicon valley is is very entertaining. So like king of the hill probably if I rewatched it, I would really like it Yeah I like I like the imagery of peter punched out of spider-man, especially if its themes deal with identity can't wait to watch in 2023 after my lds mission lds mission Oh, oh, right because yeah, you're meant to do missions if you do part of that, right? Yeah, um Yeah, I like it too. I like the idea of Peter's astral being punched out of spider-man. It's like you can do a lot with that We'll have to see what they do with that. Who knows what they will do that Yeah, no Uh civil war critique the timeline of people get to Siberia at basically the same time even though they left at different times Not sure but maybe a bad So you have to look at what everyone's using and at what times and then if it's feasible To be within a certain time frame because you've got a big grace period of when cap arrives Basically the full grace period is from zemo. He can wait for as long as you want. You don't have to worry about that then Steven bucky All you need to argue is that they would have set down once to refuel in some area Yeah, you know the Well, maybe not sleep because they would have been desperate to get there But we need to make enough time for half a day to pass for iron man to get there Um Because we know that iron man We know that they take road at the hospital and then he goes to the raft So I think the big question is where exactly is the raft it is in a ocean, but we're about probably looks cold Looks cold It does look cold. It probably would be the Atlantic That seems like the most likely choice and then if from there It's like well to get to Siberia from like the north Atlantic Probably going to take you that long if you're iron man Yeah, there's there's ways it can you can just slip in and it'll be okay. I don't I don't see it as this like major breach This impossible. It's like I would say at worst. It's a contrivance Yeah, which is a lot of a lot of when you're looking at criticisms for civil war The best you can do is like contrivance um Yeah, and like ultimately for me. I'm just sitting there like uh cap and bucky take a while to search through that facility We don't know how long it took them to get to where they are before iron man caught up with them Which would have been something he did pretty quickly Yeah Oh, I'm gonna have to redo this whole system probably to get this efficient, but uh No, it's a good thing. It's a good thing. You want to make our factories as good as possible. Don't we rags? don't we Ow, I mean it's always about the process of improving maybe Yeah, don't need lazy factories happening here. Okay I Need more coal There's my only source of coal right here. Okay Oh and for those who are curious about the actual factory gameplay, I've turned enemies off I find them annoying. I just want to build my stuff. I don't have to Intimately deal with people sabotaging stuff.  All right.  Not a real gamer Space aliens. I don't know if there's space aliens. There's regular What other aliens are there? What other aliens are there but space aliens Mexico Mexican aliens? Yeah, that's that it's always That is actually a term that is used to like Officially in certain things. I'm pretty sure that our aliens is like actually explicitly in the australian constitution Well, then there you go answered your question referring to when referring to people who aren't yeah Well, there is no clause to deal with what happens to Bailey and show up in australia That would be something else we have to figure out They've got written in any constitutions or like law was like what to do if space aliens show up I'm pretty sure that are the west probably government has stuff that they've that is explicitly about like extraterrestrial Situations I like it. I think that I think so. Yeah. Well, it feels like you I feel like you would have to plan for that because it's always a possibility I'm like not an unreasonable possibility either Mola, would you record the 15 short lines necessary to make you into a ways navigation voice? What now? Maybe upload it to discord. I need sultry welsh nav Wait, they can do that in 15 lines. That sounds pretty efficient Yeah, I thought there'd be more Like the numbers and stuff Yeah, um But maybe they have it is like a complex enough AI that they managed to nail it. I don't know Sounds interesting. I'm not against the idea Uh when disney bought marvel and started making movies. I thought it was a good business decision in definite movies Just like the comics, but then continuity falls apart just like the comics But business-wise it is a good decision because you make a lot of money I think that's it right. It's just like You hope they're gonna care a lot more and I I think they do but then you know It only takes one person to be like I'm gonna make it so this happens And it's like did did this did the opposite of this happen anywhere and someone's like, I don't know. It's like, uh Don't worry about it. It's fine. And then you just do that more and more and more and Then you get low key Everything goes to shit Yay Um, how do you feel about ray showing up in spider-man? I don't know when did ray show up? What am I missing? I'm the real ray Yeah, the multiverse all the rays from the multi ray That sounds bad to me. I don't I don't want a ray showing up us evil The last thing we need to be gone ray. Yes And or all your doppelgangers So all right, the first thing I gotta do is make some coal harvesting devices. It's gonna be great Uh, the restrictions on batman discussed before reminded me of stuff done to sonic comics in 2014 Sonic can't lose cry or say his planet name. What? To planet name. What does he live on planet inward or something? Sonic you can't say that no more Sorry, that's the name of a planet. I can't do anything about it. I wish I could do something about this Stop No, I need more copper Um Do you think peter parker is a palpatine peter parker palpatine? peter palpitas Ker Uh, do you think the current writing quality could have made a good pure character drama Just dealing with the fallout with no universal rewrite So we saying like could we have done fine with just accepting that we lost all those characters from infinity? Or are we saying or are we doing something else? Like I'm not sure this is a good character drama dealing with the fallout with no universal rewrite Oh, I guess they told him a spider-man.  You can't reveal it now What and I'm just sitting there like oh my god. Why why why why why why why why why why why why? Do we have to have spider-man stories be the specific thing? Cringe she was limiting that I like Why can't people creatively express themselves and read the comic I like that let's do this now Yeah, oh, yeah, I mean if it's a different story. Yeah bad face It's like the whole story could have been amazing and about all of that, but yeah, it'll probably end with his air density being back to normal in terms of secret and I'm like, oh well Yeah I thought andrew garfield had been constantly befuddled as to why people think that he's in the movie from interviews and articles Could be denying it though. He's not the on the actors list. Well There's been some images photos released of him Not only in the suit but also hanging out with tom holland. So the thing about all of this is you can't trust them None of them not me I say this as if they've done something wrong. They've done nothing wrong, but you can't trust them You know they have they've done everything wrong. Don't cover for them. They did it all wrong If you ask him he's not going to say yes I'm already wrong around the clock. I I do believe that uh he's he and Toby being in it was probably something they really wanted to keep secret but just couldn't they couldn't get it They did it got around I knew it'd be weird to bring in electro and not andrew garfield, especially if you would have been on board with it We're like, oh, okay Electro Yay, lizard. Yeah, that's another some people are really excited about lizard. I was just like, okay You do you I guess Belgium um What did we conclude rags was tazm 102 better I think tazm 2 Was better. I think tazm 1 is way worse than people remember Yeah In terms of how the plot unfolds and how people get to where they are and what they know and just the weird bat shit stuff that happens I I think I think it gets overshadowed by the second one in terms of its zaniness But I think that the first tazm is worse Oh boy, that's fair I'd have to re-watch him again. I've already kind of memory hold those things, you know It's only fair everyone does it I don't know why anybody would think those movies were good Well, like if you like really I I just think people don't remember the first one Which I don't blame. Yeah The first one's really bad. I would say I'd better remember anything about it Same A. Longoids I told my friend. I was afraid doc strange was acting out a character in the trailer He responded. I assumed his development happened off-screen because I'm a reasonable person No, that's Oh, that hurt to listen to that's one of them things We are just like let's push it to the extreme and doc strange is just this Insane asylum patient running around going Jumping through portals and stuff and it's like yeah, I mean whatever happened to him happened off-screen, right? It's just a goop.   Look what what happened was it? I remember And I think that it makes sense And then he somehow gets away without anyone knowing that there's a lizard or something I remember the thing at the end where like oh no, how's he gonna get to the oscorp building? And all the people to the crane the crane moments new new york you mess with one of us you mess with us It definitely had that energy Except I like him, but I like uh the same ramy spider-man 2 thing about that I saw the one in spider-man 2 is great.  That's perfectly normal to me Fine as opposed to hey, let's all line up cranes Come on cranes. We can do it Attach himself to the building shut up. Steven. We're helping spider-man Like an amazing spider-man 2 and when he's fighting in that big electric facility Playing itsy bitsy spider as a lecture It's like dude, what are we doing?  It's happening.  See stop it stop it If you talk it's like he has that little chip on his head. Is that getting turned into electricity too? Dude electro the second electro exists. It's like well, that's it. We're ruined like everything Nothing's like it.  Like that's it Well, um, that's already, you know, that's something Yeah, that's like shocker was way easier to understand in homecoming It's like you've got this little this device that electric use people as it punches. I was like, yeah, okay Punch people with the shocker electricity. Yeah It's beautiful in its simplicity How much more of this stuff do I need gosh?   Yes. Do you remember what he says is evil? It's like really far away from time square, but he could just sort of sense that electro is on his way there or something I like how it's like I see but I remember there was a I think it was something that was in the The y-mess video it's like, ah, see he'd go to the most electric place in New York most electric place Would he not go to the mass electricity grid that's not even a thing the most electric place isn't a thing That's not that's not how it would work. We said this in the debate. It would be like he just connects to the grid And that's it. It's all yeah, it's all electric and it's all connected The most electric place is so funny The electric what else do I need more of this stuff? Oh, I guess I should Oh doesn't do good stuff I don't trust the mcu to be able to pull off this type of story anymore. I hope they prove me wrong seems key jangling the movie high wags Hello key jangling the era that's what we seem to be dealing with The age We've left the information age. We've entered the the jangling age the jangle age I mean Not to mention like book of boba fair is on its way out, right? We're actually close closing in on that now. That's coming out this year coming out in november I think or december why wouldn't they fill that show with cameos?  Yeah We were shouting so heavily for being critical of that scene Oh, yeah, yeah, and then The whole thing we're just going what What are you doing? Given time people start to come around to they always to You know that luke seemed wasn't wasn't as good as I thought it was originally It's like, what did you think originally it's like, well, it's really cool. He was chopping up the robins He's still doing that on that scene changed. Yeah, nothing changed.  Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see Or is it metal is it Is it gonna be sad the interesting isn't quotations Please don't not do this to me Um Nothing in phase four feels connected the multiverse makes no sense are people really that hype for this can marvel even use spider-man after this Um, the deal ends after this movie, but I imagine that they're going to this movie will be Hyper successful and then marvel and Sony be like right. Let's read new Well, I mean it seems like spider-man's do it a lot better by being connected to the mcu and you just make more money And I imagine that marvel wants spider-man because it's spider-man If dc didn't have batman they would be making deals with whoever owned him to make sure that they could use him It's probably why they've thrown dr. Stranger in there so significantly not just to explain the spell But also to be like see you want him you want him in the mcu. We can throw him with some of our characters You want that? I mean, I I will say that's like the cool aspect of the mcu is having these characters interact another and it seems like the spider-man movies have leaned into that a lot more than The other ones have though. It seems like that's changed now, but the worst unfortunately Chipped coin said don't bother making a film if it's not 100 accurate So does he think spider-man one is terrible because his webs are organic It was frustrating to see him refuse to see the flaws in that argument Uh from memory It would have I think you said you said you could deviate a little bit But once you deviate enough it becomes it's it's bunk.   I don't blame them Um Angry super chat five Wow We've had five of those nice. Oh, wow Uh, tell meme that a snider video is great. Oh, I think he's gone. Uh, uh, he's very aware of everyone's appreciation of that one It's um, he did good stuff Um, oh Oh, yeah, congrats meme on the snider cut video is great and meme has a beautiful singing voice Yeah, did you guys catch the uh the bonus ending? Nope, so I haven't watched yet. I'm not on uh, it's on meme's channel It's gonna be in the visual the video originally unfortunately copyright would not allow it Which makes sense. It was funny. It's a cover of um, mr. Blue sky But with this mr.  Um, it's also catchy, but I like I listened to it before it released and I was like, oh You're now gonna get that pasta Copyright, and he was like, no, it's it's not the song. It's like a recreation. And I was like it's like the same Uh, what do you call it when you've you've got like the same is it tune or flow or It's all the same like background or whatever and I was just like I'm pretty sure he's sampled the the um So he's just the instrumental. He has the instrumental playing So I think it was created by rainbow soap. Um Recreated rather like so so it but but I'm pretty sure it's not different enough that bots would Not tell that that it was the tempo melody. Yeah, it's I think you'd have to get permission We'll do that still because it's it's clearly like an alternative vision if you listen to it, you'll know what I mean Um, so yeah, you had to separate it out and but it's really good. Um, and he's managed to make it, uh You know viewable or whatever he hasn't been blocked I I recommend it. It's all very well edited too. It's not just the song To listen to it's also the all the visuals to to accompany it. It's good stuff Um strange gives peter the same wink agatha gives wander agatha posing as strange Anything to try and explain it I guess I appreciate you homosexuals. I write in my free time and thanks to you. I know what to avoid kudos. Hey How wonderful well, I'm very glad that we have been able to help you.  That's him. He's like the famous one. Yeah Why do they call him pinhead? Um, it's really unclear. I think there's something in the law. I don't know Is it in like the books or the novel of the adaptation? It's probably in the comics I wish they put that stuff in the film. I'd really like to know. Yeah, there's no scene where they're like pinhead Why do they call you that and then he explains it like they don't have it. They're just so lame these days.  I gotta trim them. Yeah, I gotta trim them. Anyway, you know If we're second there, I was like, you know, he maybe has them in there for a reason He's not just gonna take them out just because you want them, you know Oh, no, he'd be he'd be totally down with it. He loves it. Okay. All right. He just loves to feel helpful That's the kind of person he is. He really enjoys knowing that he's helping other people.  Is he wholesome? I can't remember. I haven't seen it so long He has holes when you put the pens out Someone said in chat, that's what they called him on set I'm like, that's interesting if the name stuck because that's what they called him on set Hard not to call him that when it kicks off so much Veggie doesn't doesn't like it at all. I was like, stop calling me pinhead All right, your name in the movie is pinhead now. I was like, no Or if they called him up for so long, you just never brought it up as a problem in one day Yeah, I think I think it's time I don't like being called pinhead and you're like, oh It's kind of rude and He's got well, he did he never got a date when he was in high school Because his face was all pimpled Oh I'm stunned to see how the origin. Yeah, I can see where it's going now Uh-huh. It's the lore Uh, hey mootle, you like c.m. Punk coming back to wrestling Oh, yeah, absolutely.  Who?  It was very exciting Um, someone in chat said that his official name is hell priest or the lead cinnabye That's lame hell priest sounds a bit more it's better than the lead cinnabye. That's more of a title That like you're like if you don't know who someone is you're like, you know, the the the lead cinnabye You know that sort of thing I prefer Pinhead somehow they managed to have a name like that and it's managed to remain still like it could it could evoke fear Rather than simply being like pinhead. Yeah, it's got this almost it's Scary in on in an almost simplistic way like pinhead like kind of how pyramid head is stuck around Yeah, that's all you've got to work with and if you remember good ol christopher stueckman In his script of totally normal people talking about totally normal things. We're like you can't have people with mundane or normal names be scary and we were all just like Where have you been Jason Freddie So there's a there's a book I read when I was a kid called peter and the star catcher This is odd because it's it's almost it's like a prequel to peter pan Which is oddly something we've been talking about but There was a book I read called peter and the star catchers when I was a kid And the name of the crocodile the man eating crocodile his name was mr. Grinn And that scared me as a kid because there's just something about it. That's just like uh, that's it's scary mr. Grinn And Honestly, it seems more common to do that than to be like, you know Aga gragnag and you're like, ah spooky name. Yeah You're just like rank or it's like, yeah, that sounds like a beast name. I guess a real word Yes, um, and and you can do that too. You can take I guess normal words for everyday sentences and turn it more into a title and then it can evoke Multiple things at once sometimes Adolf and joseph yourself Sauron Sauron sounds like an evil person name, but that might just be because that's how I learned of that name. I guess Don't don't be evil sour on be a good man In the tv show, it's real be a good guy Tell me miss night of video is great will do have done actually, um I'll do it again. God Homosexuals it's amazing that a trailer has assassinated wang peter and strange disney has to be making this a competition at this point I guess you didn't Look, we'll just give it a give it a sec. Yeah, give it. It's not out yet. We don't know And how was wang assassinated? Yeah I'd be curious about that one Maybe they're gonna argue like as soon as he knew that there was a potential for this He should have stayed to make sure it wasn't gonna happen or something What if he's got something very important to do elsewhere? Like shang chi Well, yeah, maybe Or some other misadventures Why don't we misadventure so I can be regular adventures?  Hello good boy rags Hello there. How are you? Can't answer. I hope you're well Also, I hopefully the question was answered I don't know if it was now at this point the uh, the whole him being in dead by daylight thing They do a really good job of implementing sort of There I say guest celebrity evil people in that game So I hope pinhead fans are happy about it. I don't know They're not just re-skins of other characters. There's actually something about them Yeah, like oh like from the movies or oh that yeah, that's what he'd kind of do or oh Yeah, he's EP moves like he Yeah, like he doesn't you know, if you were trying to add these people into the game with new mechanics They do clearly think about it from a point of view of having watched the stuff and understanding them Anyways to satisfy the fans. Um, you know more combat do seem to do that as well Uh, at least from the ones I played but um Because this is the thing that's like a whole topic on its own. Is it like tacky to bring in Stuff like that or is it like a spectrum where if you do it really well, it's actually kind of really awesome You know In grace's spoiler review. Oh, yeah, so by the way before I read this Um, apparently I watched the we watched the wrong video on efab 150 the one I was sent to wasn't the one we watched It apparently gets much worse There's a spoiler and a non-spoiler. I thought because I thought I grabbed the worst rated one from a recent videos But I I must have been a blind man because the the maybe that one is just one that got covered by somebody else Or discovered first or something. Who knows? Well, so Yeah, she's released a non-spoiler and spoiler and apparently the the spoiler one is the one that everyone hates The non-spoiler one's pretty bad, which by the way is kind of shocking to me that we saw the less painful one So you might just see us cover the spoiler one in future because apparently it gets so much worse Um For example in grace's spoiler review. She said Harley Quinn stuff was a horrifically positive spin on prisoner. Great. Well, it's great Um, she's like a hot take fountain that one so thing, um People talk about power dynamics, but like if you watch that scene, uh, Harley's not really Coerced She kind of she's she's gunning for it. She's very happy for the for the for the with the guy I guess and so and if you want to go as far as saying nope, she can't because she's technically a prisoner. She'll be like, all right I guess we're gonna have to just deal with the fact that She can't make any decisions in that environment Um, which is awkward but that that gets into all other discussions about stuff But it wasn't surprised that she brought that up. I would just rather focus on The incredible mindset it takes to have said the polka dot man's relationship with his mom was misogynist That's the cat. I've heard it so many times and so does our It don't get old insane Watch twilight for the first time last night 10 out of 10 peak fiction. You think school says he thinks it's cinema.  Yeah, I must do right It's the It's non-franchise when the first one comes out. It's you know, it's what else does it does it? Does it also satisfy the rest of his crazy criteria? I hope so Do do do what are you guys's favorite manga if you read them just finish reading chainsaw man And it's easily my third favorite a bit tis me but a lot of fun. Yeah rags. What's your favorite manga? um This thing I could make up any name and it's probably believable as a manga name Let's see a Teenage sushi happy happy is my favorite manga It's a little bit better than the hentai it was based off of Um Just explored the characters in more depth, you know, oh, it certainly explored the characters in more depth. Absolutely That was a good one. I like it's gonna be somebody in chat who googles that they're like, that's not real, right? It's like no no No For you, what's your favorite manga? Feel free to give the same answer Volume of one punch man Oh But it's very similar to the show because I imagine it was based exactly one to one with it Yeah, it is. It's really good. I liked it Well, uh metal. What's your favorite mononga? That's probably the only one I've read in the past 15 years. So I'm have to go with one punch man as well Um, I'll go with Gamer thrones that counts, right? Yeah, probably The suicide squad is the first half decent movie dce you shout out So, oh, sorry. So it's the first half decent movie the dcu shout out and it still didn't even break its budget with box office sad It's not really fair though, is it? It's the only one that's come out during panda bobbic time except for one 184 I guess Um, it would be really cool to see what the suicide squad would have resulted in had it come out um in 2016 Yeah, I wonder who would have gone down as one of like a favorite of superhero movies, you know Maybe it would have helped boost the fuck out of sniders bullshit Dude imagine maybe we'll get the uh the video essays about you know, like a year from now two years from now I was like why the suicide squad was gray and or just what we needed or something or why it was a failure The awkward part is that when you have like the Seems like some people are most like lying like they didn't enjoy it, but they feel like they have to say that they Really got that impression you remember that That high top one on Yeah, he didn't like it It seemed like he didn't like it but that he felt like he had to because it's a creative vision Of course because people actually enjoyed this film Yeah, like he just want to well the same thing happened with black widow if you remember he put out loads of tweets saying like I've got nothing to say about this movie But should I do a video for the for the dollar and everyone was like yeah, do it do it do it It's like man. What an existence Your favorite youtuber everybody I don't want to have to talk about it. Don't make me And then yeah, his um, we wouldn't bother covering it on e-fap Because it's like nothing happens in the video, but uh, oh he found it in for a high top video That was fun didn't yeah If you listen anyone out there was listening to this right now after the show if you if you venture into the world of high Top and check out his suicide squad commentary. My god.  I didn't like it because if you liked it you would have said it was like amazing or excellent It was weird When mary jane says male spiders can hypnotize women are they trying to explain the pheromones from black widow also high racks Oh my goodness gracious How did she know how did she know Did a piece. Oh did a piece of the red room fall and land right next to her and that's how they could be it My god, how did you know right?  Well, I mean You know, you could have done it because you're paid to write it that way. I don't know Do you think it would be convenient or inconvenient as a human being to be totally covered in fur? Um So convenience for warmth. I'm guessing is the idea there I guess yeah, so I'm wondering. Yeah I think if all of a sudden we just like sprouted fur everywhere probably but if we always had it and we kind of Developed with it and we were used to it then maybe not as much I suppose I'm the reason why I wonder is if we had a coat of fur Would that have limited the places that we could exist on earth Pride doesn't seem to limit animals Wow, it seems to it seems to depend right like certain animals are the furry living certain environment than certain animals You know different environments um Like I imagine that if you plopped a grizzly bear into the middle of the amazon that it would be not particularly uh comfortable existence But conversely if I dropped a jaguar in the arctic That would go well for him either So I guess I'm wondering I mean what the applicability What if well some will shed they get winter coats and stuff like that. So maybe that would be something So are we are we factored? I guess I'm just wondering if that fact is in like if humans had fur and then they had to shed It's like would that not be highly inconvenient in terms of the mess that it would leave As rags said we at this point we would have had all these We probably all have a hoover in our room that we regularly use maybe or maybe not I don't know. I wonder what that would look like as an evolutionary thing though.  We'd look more like gorillas or maybe our faces would be more Uh, oh I guess um Yeah, they could I guess because there's different types of like fur in terms of what it would be like and how much it would cover What I meant covered in fur I basically meant animal like in terms of just that much as opposed to um You know like what's probably be more advantageous in terms of because the the cold is it kills a lot of people every year globally Just simply being too cold. Yeah, so maybe that in and of itself would just kind of be like Really do we get worried about people overheating? I guess more so maybe it depends Maybe that would be one of the things that would separate like that's how you could tell the difference between where you're from Or your your ancestry or what not is that some some you know different races might have different Like hair length density Yeah, like it would be maybe thicker in certain parts or thinner in other parts something like that Might distinguish us and then as we mix and mixed and matched we'd get different combinations I feel like it would be because if if If uh if the furs were different colors and stuff Then there was different variations and like patterns and things like that Then it would be very difficult to be like racist in society potentially difficult to be raised It would be too difficult or two. It's true, but it's mostly because they don't drink enough water What seems like it's it's harder to look well It it seems like I mean it's the whole thing of like winter is coming right the reason why that's the thing is because like Winter has historically been the hard time as opposed to summer which usually isn't viewed as the hard time Um I don't know but I mean evolutionary wise we used to and then it got lesser and less and then we developed an incredibly great cooling system through sweating and all that Yeah, I guess It didn't have to happen this way Who knows if it would have who knows say what now the animals with first sweat or is or do they get Different degrees to different degrees they will. Um, I think that the human the process of sweating and the sweat glands that we have is uh Not typical amongst animals and our system works really really well for keeping us cool um Other animals will sweat in different ways. I think like dogs on their pads animals their mouth Can't to get hit out right or that's that's like a really good way to cool down. That's one way Interesting to think about like other animals have to find these sometimes Unintuitive ways of like cooling down We would be certainly I mean the fashion industry would certainly change. We'd probably just wear less clothes in general because it's like doubling up Right There there'd be much maybe people would be more fit If they couldn't hide their bodies under clothes as much so they'd have more incentive to Look nice and work out and stay healthy. You can just put a you can put on big shirts and long sleeves and puffy stuff to To you know cover up as much so you're like, oh, yeah. Well, I guess I better Look nice. I don't know. Maybe I I wonder if like that was ever an incentive though because like back in olden times Like most people weren't fat and it's like you still had clothes to cover it up It was like I think it's because they didn't have as much access to all the food and the kinds of food I think well, I mean, I'm pretty sure that's categorical, right?  Give it a good work high rags and prospect to m Hello, yeah, look me too. That wasn't a minigun. That's okay. It's the same principle It was more of a yeah It's more of a just hopefully you understand the I'm trying to say it's a thing that fires stuff Someone in the conversation did say it's worth having pointed that out because of the fact that it packs such a punch that uh that particular gun And so that that uh that helicopter ain't having a good day.   It would be a heavy machine gun Well, I was wrong no matter what I don't know Yeah, Mola your critiques are poor.  So light machine gun became they became developed and After that around this age and they really became a lot more popular because they were scaled down versions of the heavy machine guns Or the machine guns. It sounds a little bit gay, but you know, I understood a lot. Well, that's okay That Hassan parody in 150 was top-notch.   I'm guessing did you did you see it? Did you know about it? I I knew you what you will do it because you told me to have a chair picture That's the kind of prep we do on e-fair Make sure you have a chair picture Yeah, I did chelly uh injustice with this would have been the official chelly efep debut. Yeah, sorry Chelly missed out Um, what's the difference between a light machine gun and a submachine gun? Not an unreasonable question if you just hear the words and then see that they're basically polar opposites from one another Some machine guns shoot pistol cartridges and they're generally designed to be small and compact Light machine guns are essentially like squad automatic weapons. They're rifle chambered lighter versions of heavy machine guns interesting Just tested positive for the coof, but that means I have more time to catch up on 150 now rags Some swole guy on discord wants to know how you rank dead space compared to re4 Ooh, that's a good question. I haven't played dead space nearly as much as re4. Honestly, I'd have to play them More to decide I like them both and they are similar But I legit don't know I think I prefer I think I prefer re4 But they're both really good games and I like them both immensely Yeah, I love them both I had I got all of the achievements for dead space one and two back on the xbox. I played the shit out of those games I played them a bunch and I like them a whole bunch Um, but I think I like re4 better As for which one is better Honestly, it's probably dead space, which is better in terms of its No design and stuff. I do think that space probably will win out in that regard But um I am not certain. I do not know Yeah, I wouldn't speak on that. I need to play them both again uh You know what love them for similar reasons in a lot of ways They're both fun on the bun And yeah, um, I hope you you hope you do all right with the with the the koof. Hope you get better. Yeah um And so I'm followed up with dead space is better and Is that the new tiger versus bear question? I don't know. Maybe Maybe everyone will have different different opinions on that. I have to play. Yeah I have to play a lot more dead space. Uh, the problem is that it doesn't like to run well on modern pcs Uh dead space two and three don't have this issue But dead space one was not hurted. Well, you have to like Mod stuff for it to get it to run proper or run better Did mel get like hit by something?     I did not know there was a dead space remastered Yeah, you did I thought you did. Yeah Did I yeah, absolutely dead.  I think they might have just took it for it. It's a remake. Yeah Yeah, I uh, oh, we'll all be checking that out when it comes out. I'm sure someone said play IRL dead space rags Just start shooting things while on acid No You'll get in all the trouble I will get in trouble. Yes You're gonna hold your bad shooting randomly and also doing acid One thing is worse than the other one.   Marvel's what if Um, is it weird that the spell doesn't exclusively listen to the person casting it?  It's yeah, that's such a concern. Just don't have peter in the room please Yeah, it's all lame Um, you know what I love in stories consequences remember when stories had those any favorite consequences and stories reminder that molla says Uh, yeah, y'all good instead of yogurt because he's a filthy heathen. Yeah, I say yogurt Yogurt is always sound odd to me yogurt You go hot That's how that's how one caveman would greet another back in the day. He'd be like, hey yogurt And it would be like, oh, hey, uh rank Is one caveman with a normal dirt and gunk or their names Good old dirt and gunk Um All this talk of spooderman makes me want to bust out my perfectly legal copy of the 70s japanese spider-man on blu-ray Have a good day massives also high rags and hello fringy Hi there I've seen the ads for that the japanese spider-man from the 70s Hi rags Have you guys played dst don't starve together if you have what are your thoughts if you haven't I recommend it's great I have not played it I play I have both of them the normal one and the together one. I didn't I didn't like it that much Not it's a bad game. I just didn't I just didn't get into it at all. It's like I've seen the gameplay I don't think I'd care for it based on what I've seen. I just I don't I don't recall really liking it Or liking what I saw. It just didn't look appealing to me or fun But it's weird that I didn't like it that much because I normally really like roguelikes So, I don't know. Well given all the isaac shenanigans. Yeah Yeah Um mcu assassinates characters so efficiently the german national socialist workers party based their final solution on their framework Wow Wow, I don't know if that makes any sense, but wow Oh Sounds like you guys or at least some of you have seen what if have you? Unfortunately, yes It's bad. It's the big stinky and I I wouldn't recommend anyone watch it I think I haven't seen the third one.  So Rags, I'm so glad to see you making videos again. We need to make more sensible people. We need more sensible people rather. Um Let's play soon, man. Always friends on already friends on steam Riley's sad sad. Oh, Riley's adam's apple. There you go Oh, I know that name. I know that name um Imagine a hero had heard there was a spider person sourced for a planet to cast a world altering spell for personal gain This is a villain story a little bit. Um And so you expect someone's gonna learn a lesson at some point. That's gotta be it, right? That's gotta be the What else could it mean? I guess we'll find out if if that's gonna be the angle Ita learns about responsibility again Again If that movie's aquaman when it's my favorite dcu movie to watch because it's so atrocious I can totally see that I think It's a funny movie meme isn't gonna be the next effect movies. He's working on is not that And then after that it might be that um All I can say is eventually look how long it took for this night to cut video, you know It's it's like it The the production can be huge sometimes or sometimes maybe not and You know what you'll you'll be very happy when it comes out. That's that's how it works I would say the same Do do have y'all seen pandorum seen it last night That's the one. I have not seen it I have I don't remember what I thought about it though It's a weird movie. That's what I remember That is my commentary in full. Dennis quaid is in it also guy from 310 to yuma And other guys guy who was a pro guy was the wing guy with the wings from x-men 3 I guess I know his name No, his actual name The halloween lights are witches the wink strange equals agatha all along. Yeah, maybe maybe maybe Can only hope at this point quick chat a contract from below or rotten baby rotten baby What is contract from below we do again Doubles all pickup drops That sounds pretty good rotten baby. That's pretty good. I've never played the game, but it sounds pretty good I'd probably go with contract from below over on baby, but it's it's a tough one. I agree Press extra baby Contract obviously baby baby rotten baby. Well, I guess it's not obvious, huh? Woof Is the rotten baby just a satisfaction of having a dead baby confirmation? Yes Also, it spawns blue flies when when I'm shooting You know how you like your blue flies rags Well done I'd give Brie a rotten baboo. No Rotten baby. That's looks kind of 50 50 that didn't help at all chat. Thank you Baby from below. They're trying metal geez Trying hard enough Do better chat. Oh Got him. Oh, you're really offending him Oh, it's like with someone when this weird moonhead appears. I already know someone tried to do a kappa in youtube chat Is that a different name for buttface the moonhead is um Kappa face kind of if you look at it Yeah, I was like, hmm They did their best. I don't blame them I guess they didn't want to just copy it outright. I wonder if there would be like any issues there potentially if they did. I don't know Goddamn it metal. Okay.   Yeah Do better moodle beckons All right Have you listened to Jordan Peterson explaining Peter Pan? It's a whole new point of view that woke me up about life and life sacrifices I haven't no I have not Maybe we'll get a return of the my One weakness small knives in the new sputum and also high racks Hi there Small knives can really do it small knives in a way like you could call bullets that you know Small flies knives No, yeah, yeah No, they're not small knives. Yeah No, have you seen a bullet? Yeah You'll get there one day, right? Okay Now you'll get back one day bullets up to the realm of sanity Yeah What do you guys think of southpaw's civil war takes an sk's claim that return of the jedi throne room assassinated luke's character Those people those people have opinions They need to have less misses and more hits I So the the thing that makes me adore return of the jedi Is essentially all the throne room stuff Is the throne room? I'd be very surprised if there is something I managed to miss in that that assassinates luke skywalker's character. That's That's news to me. Um Obviously It's potentially true You don't sound very convinced there mauler Well, it would be tough to convince me on that one. That's one of them That's one of them fundamental like man You're gonna have to really make a good argument to change everyone's minds on that one. That's that's a thing that To a degree the throne room is is like the part that is the great part of that film Yeah, I'd be really surprised if you convinced people that luke was assassinated In one of the scenes that is referenced for all time to define like who he is So it's great because I recently very recently rewatched turn of the jedi I did not get the impression That luke or maybe you missed something for you The war is a mess. Absolutely. It's a really really good What could anybody claim was the assassination of luke in that scene? Is it that he didn't kill vader? Is that But he's very clear on why he wouldn't do it I'm not sure. I don't understand. What would be said to be out of character? I don't I that is I I mean, that's yeah, that's where we're at. We'll have to wait until whatever the argument is comes out Unless it's someone knows what the argument is. I I don't know what it is As for civil war like again heard a lot of the argument I'm not worried about civil war. It's gonna be fair. Not at all. Not at all Many times pretty pretty common What was that rex No Maybe we'll get a return. Oh wait, I read that one look behind Wait, am I missing a little behind? Ah little behind But one of the reasons I love the newer dread is that they didn't feel the need to take off the helmet They let the character be expressed as he should the faceless personification and the fist of justice I mean Okay, so I just want to be careful about this like you don't have to have dread never take off the helmet But my god, did I that that was awesome in that film? Yeah, because it you get you've got a sense that he is like so committed That there's just there's never a time because that that helmet is a part of the the approach of dealing out as I said justice But also protecting himself and stuff.  Yeah, you got to make sure we see his face when he Flips him off. It's like that's weird. I don't I don't need I like the helmet I like his helmet. I really cool that he keep it on more often You don't need to take it off. He can keep it on Fine Utilize the design of cost Maybe you just need to get used to it for any right? Nah No No I don't got to do nothing Um Long man, will you consider inviting just some guy someday? Sure. I get I got along with him just fine. I don't know if he'd be super interested Uh, I assume he will because he seems much more comic focused and I always find like, oh I don't know if comic focused people are gonna have fun here as much Because the second something gets bad should have been like, yeah, they didn't do it the way the comics world could be like Oh, I don't care moving on Anyway Um, but he sounds like he's interested in talking about you know, like uh non comic media as well Also, what annoys you the most long man bad, but my themes or your wrong doesn't elaborate Um What annoys me the most Probably I think the long man bad one annoys me the most Why? I guess because there's just less to it But they think it's a point. Yeah, but at least with the thematics and stuff there's generally some kind of an argument or some kind of a Discussion that they're trying like they're trying to explain it to you But the long man bad thing like, oh, it's just it's just bad to make a four hour movie And that's that and everyone's like, yo, let's do it So I was gonna say The reason why I don't find long man bad annoying is because it's so it's such an easy disregard. It's like too long. Okay. Bye And it's true Meanwhile with you like but my themes is usually you misunderstood the content and I'm always like Because you can claim that and it'll be satisfying for people who disagree with you to see it It'll be like, yeah true, but there's just never usually elaboration. You're just like, yeah, I missed it I misunderstood it. Yeah, you got me That's that I guess And then uh, you know saying you're wrong without elaboration again can be disregarded really easy.  Okie dokie But like you didn't understand the content. You're like, okay But you did or you are a genius um Fringy, you don't have to answer if you consider it too spoiler-ish, but in Ghost of Tsushima, which ending did you choose? um, I chose the one that uh that uh Shimura wanted Um, I think that I I don't know. I I didn't I didn't have it to not to not follow through And are you going to play the new expansion? Oh, um, I wasn't aware of that might look into it. We'll see China China, uh, I don't China Fringy, you don't oh wait. That was that one.  So that's that's the thing it's not a problem until it's a problem. Um Because in this world it could be that Norman and uh Sorry, not yeah, Harry's the friend right Harry and Norman could exist And they could have nothing to do with Peter. They could just be a family that's really rich and you know competitive You could you could argue that Recently the Osborns rose to power as a as a response to stark industries. They're like we're trying to You know reduce the monopoly stark has you know, there's plenty you can do with that and then Um, you could have it be that he meets Norman.  It's strange. We haven't heard of or seen any Osborn stuff I'll have to see uh what they're planning on doing with that Just have to see that's like a lot of stuff Just wait and see Um, oh, I was curious if you were ever going to review If you're ever going to review for the Star Wars prequels, uh, I'd like to at some point Just don't like to promise anything We shall maybe have a look at them at some point. I would prefer so I simultaneously want to try and find The parts of the prequels that I think are worthwhile and also Fucking bat it down that they considered masterpieces by anybody.  You gotta stop not good.  You're the tiny person and this is efap gear How could fringy be Hammond and rags is the tiny person Hammond is the tiny person Hammond Richard Hammond like from Dead Space Probably from from top gear because they said efap gear That's true. Yeah, I'll be my assumption. I'm definite. Well, I don't even know who I am I was gonna say we don't I don't know that we map on to the three personalities in top gear that well You know, he's like, oh who gets into accidents the most You don't have to think about that one Uh, why oh why are you making me buy more stuff off to buy some plushies the moola one is so damn cute Now I'm gonna be sleeping with mohler. Oh No, no, I'm You know, that's that's one of the options you have there. I'm not gonna say it's not Yes Episode three is the best because the young wing scene that is true It was excellently executed But they're all bad Unfortunately, I don't think I wanted to are really bad Yeah For a second I thought you were talking about what if I was like for some reason I like jumped over to that And I was like, wait, right? You saw the third one without me. Why would you do that? How would you subject yourself? Oh Oh no Uh, unfortunately, I don't think film quality has much effect on revenue I think it's mainly down to prior investment in characters or actors slash directors. Yeah, this is the thing Spiderman no way home that thing could make a lot of money and If it does, I don't know what that tells people You know, I don't know. I don't know what they conclude We need more cameos More spider-man Um, did you see film theory on falcon winter soldier? I was glad to see map pat being a fan of marvel Didn't stop him seeing the idiocy in the do better of do better Well, good neat.  His stuff is not media Very well dank is that um Uh, dankula's The podcast isn't his podcastism Think so. Yeah And I think that the acronym is I know sm is salt mines um The current what ti is And I was incredible. I'm assuming. Oh, it could be. Yeah. Yeah. Um I'm assuming they've got that going. I haven't I haven't checked in I don't know You do rags dead space one on steam runs fine. What are you on? Only problem is that you have to load and not continue because if you hit continue it lowers the difficulty really no Dead space on steam is it's oh, it's a bad port. It's infamously bad If it works good for you and lucky lucky Honestly, I think james told me about this time city a huge issue this way was playing it Yeah, I there's a lot of physics based issues in terms of frames per second and stuff like that um It's in the control the way that it maps the aiming to the mouse is no good No good No good That's no good And if you can't trust sonic who can you trust? No one really shadow Nice cock. I love the idea that Idris Elba is going to be the voices knuckles. That's great Just what we need I need to I haven't even seen the first sonic movie yet. Oh, it's it's it's in there Is it in there nothing bringing you feel what you feel in there as a good summary Man like the problem is I barely remember anything about it.  No, it definitely wasn't If it reminded me of like 2000s bad, you know, we're like it wasn't painful the simpler times SA2 a trust sonic adventures too. No, I'm not gonna play any sonic game once Sonic adventure 2 was the one where shadow the hedgehog is mistaken for sonic the hedgehog And then sonics like that's why they've mistaken me for the likes of you That's a bit racist The likes of you I think he said that exactly. I'm pretty sure it's verbatim It was a six out of ten. No, it wasn't Stop it. I must you hate for you. Why must you hate?  I was try again What is your favorite consequence and stories? Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah that I remember reading that my bad That's true. Um, okay Hmm favorite consequence I know that there are examples, but I don't want to say what they are Oh, you would you say so would you say soma's ending? That's what I was thinking of as well Well, because this is an interesting category because in some ways aren't like all you know like t2's ending It's like that's a major consequence. You could argue right like it's A consequence of having to get rid of anything that could lead to skynet means you have to get rid of Arnie like that's a Does that count because if it does that's one of my favorites Yeah, it's a something that you can kind of you should know is coming But you might have ignored it because you wouldn't want it to be the case Oh, it's the same thing with soma's ending maybe. Yeah, I think so I guess yeah, what I'm saying is like it just seems in a lot of ways that is a lot of payoffs Is you could you could categorize them as consequence Potentially being unforeseen um The ending to multi python in the holy grail of course That's always bugged me when I was a kid and I saw that because I hadn't learned like I was still new to Sort of the movies and stuff and it was just it always bugged me. I'm like that's just but But do they find the the grail? Like I don't understand what happens to them. Do they Like it I just always really bugged me about life Brian I'm glad those movies held up though. I watched them recently In English for the in English for the very first time funnily enough because I only watched them in german all like all these years back and those are me They could probably work for efab movies, honestly, maybe Yeah, yeah, I could see that Yeah, I was very impressed how good of a job they did in the german uh in the german dub Wow always praising the germans Yeah, because the jokes are pretty much the same. It's like damn. They did a really good job Well, I'm glad Yeah, me too Um, is that is there anything else you guys thought about with the the consequence stuff or is that we on point? um Civil war, that's really cool consequences um I think what it's people talk about best consequences. It's the ones that don't surprise you where you're like Oh, yeah, I guess that would yeah, that would be What would happen? Yeah Not one of those weird Sort of you couldn't have possibly seen the consequences of this I would have Like those can be okay depending on the payah or depending on how they're set up and you know stuff like that, but I mean we talk about consequences of sycovia chords, you know all that stuff like that's like that's a really good set of consequences Yeah, you can yeah, that would totally make sense. You can argue. It's what the world would actually operate Yeah, something you see coming but the experience for me was just like finally Thank you What about secret group of ninjas that control the world? And then vampires aliens illuminati demon groups that do the same thing I'm not sure what this is in regards to I'm saying like an alien group is sort of they take the place of the um Illuminati thing where they control the world, but it's actually aliens controlling the world I mean, I don't know. It's I don't care for it myself, but I'm not entirely sure what the question means honestly Yeah I'm all answering questions like biden by not answering. I only missed the one Just one got them now. It's all good Um battlefield four and battlefield one plus premium passes of five dollars each right now on origin everyone should grab them. They're fun Wait, what yeah battlefield four and one. I'm literally playing battlefield one right now. Yeah But yeah four and one are pretty great Uh the premium passes come with All the maps and all the stuff and a lot of the dlc maps are really excellent um There's a lot of stuff to unlock and some of the unlocks are annoying as fuck, but That's all right. There's a lot of good stuff in there especially for five bucks.  I've got all of the things Put things down and my power output is like only a fifth of total it's going great Though I think a lot of my machine's not even active so Or I make some more of these things so didn't I just pick up a whole bunch of oh, okay Um rags bullets are just weird small knives I agree. They're weird. They're definitely weird. Guess we'll put you here Beautiful I will buy all of you ice cream and solve world hunger if you guys are able to get on chris o'neill to cover a Nostalgia Critic video. I know it's a pipe dream, but a massive can dream connie Dude, that would be chris o'neill.  Hey. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna happen.  Because you want to handicap yourself because you're so good at it?  Oh my god I remember there was there was a period of time when I was still new to pc And I would go back and play battlefield 3 and the xbox after starting to really play it on pc And when I went back to the xbox and played it I was like, man, everyone's trash on the console version I was dominating everyone was just I was like, how come everyone's so bad at shooting and how come Everyone's reaction times are so much slower. How come everyone's just terrible Did you ever get your answer? Yeah, it's probably the fact it was 30 fps and you're playing on a controller That could be it I will agree Autoway makes men weak I'm sorry. I I should aim assist Um, I lost friends trying to argue with them in the same style you do on e-fap Some people just don't value super consistency and text role play I mean I I Text role Like when your OCs are fucking Like I'm not I'm not sure what that is, but I would say like Most people don't want to talk about movies this way. Um Yeah, you got it. You got to do some room reading Yeah, like Because yeah, some people just like yeah, I won't go watch the fun movies and see the fights now. That's totally cool Um, and I guess differences that a lot when we're responding to videos People who like actually best to be big fans of movies and talk about movies and do it for a living Yeah, a great example is twin perfect said in his video He is here to correct the record enough of this misinformation about snider movies and we're sitting here like whoo-hoo We love this. Yeah, we're just like you and then in the conversation. He was like no actually His video was very bad and he was very bad himself and what you'll find Is that most people do not yeah, like the cringe said they don't want to talk about the movies the way that we do it They want to say didn't you like that like I like that and then they want the other person to say yes I also like that When they go no, I did not like that. They're like, oh Oh, I don't want to play with you.  Um, so yeah, you know But at the same time, you know, maybe maybe they weren't really a good friend if they're gonna Ditch you over the fact that you want to talk about stuff making sense. Yeah Yeah I wouldn't want to rule that out But at the same time, yeah, you know some some people just really don't want to talk about movies that way and that's fine That is fine I mostly don't bother with my friends. It's like, yeah, I'm just gonna let them do their thing Wow, I didn't talk on our discord server about movies. I was like, I was just gonna mute that channel You know Spider-man looks so good Metal tears up as usual Um, warframe is getting crossplay slash save soon thoughts Crossplay slash say you can't wouldn't mean cross say oh like cross save. Yes. Yeah, like, okay. I mean, that's good Yeah Good for them. Um, I only played warframe briefly and I thought it was fine I just didn't get into it. I think I played it. Yeah, I played it about 70 hours in total over a period of time and I feel like I just Feel like I just Did it all like I was done Like it just got to be really boring and repetitive and the unlock system for getting new things just frustrated me and And it was just I just like yeah, this is run its course. I'm done with this now Warframe is one of those games for me that I installed twice played I think the tutorial level and a couple of missions and then stopped for no reason And that's all I ever did I don't know It happens Um, eight shads like army of dead beyond efeb never What? What about army of dead someone Someone asked me, uh, when will your friend to like army of the dead beyond efeb? I'm not gonna check them to this The one to cry that poor guy Really he never did you ever find out why that someone would like a film like that? I wanted to ask him, but then he we had to move the weekend and on the next one I just forgot about it So I because I was really interested in it, but I completely forgot Because you can't help but feel bad for someone who likes a film like that.  What's wrong with you? That was a shockingly bad film It was it really was actually shockingly bad I don't think I've ever hated a movie more It's definitely up there It's just was not a pleasant experience.  Yeah Wives are so blurry It is obnoxious It is it hurts to watch You have every once in a while I would look away from the screen to the real world just to be like, ah, yes Things are defined objects exist in real space and I can touch them And I know where one object begins and one ends and it's I also miss the world of clarity when you watch a movie like that But also his writing is really bad too.   The world buildings. It's all terrible.  I don't know about soon probably not soon but eventually Hey, oh, right the other half of that was always Hey chads, thanks for your work. Have you guys seen shing godzilla? What do you guys think? No, I think I saw it really a long time ago and I've forgotten I think I said something about it on efap when I saw it, but I have now Memory hold it. It's gone So if you can find that somewhere that's what I thought about it Um Yeah, it'd be cool to have chris on Elon I'm just there's a trailer another trailer for metro dread. It looks kind of really aw