Welcome to Psychic Medium, Tony Green. I am Tony Green, The Psychic Medium, and yes, channel. Okay, we are going to get started with today's show. Just a couple really quick announcements before we get started for everybody new, everybody returning, just little reminders. First and foremost, I will never reach out to you on any social media, anything. Please do not get scammed. Please, if somebody reaches out and says you need something, it's not me. No, so please do not fall for that. The only way to get a session with me, a private session, is by reaching to my website, or calling my business number. Now, the number associated with the show is not the same number associated with my business. If you want a private session,<PHONE_NUMBER>. Having said that, if you'd like to call into the show today, the number for the show is<PHONE_NUMBER>. I hope I didn't get those numbers wrong.<PHONE_NUMBER>. If you would like to join the show live every week, Monday at noon, we go live on YouTube. We record the show for TV and then you can call in and ask questions live. Also, Wednesday at 7pm. Today's TikTok clearing is being stuck and moving forward. So you can head over to at Psychic Tony on TikTok and get that clearing for being stuck. Yes, that's it. Really quick, folks. If you're asking questions, please ask, especially if you're calling in. If you've already asked the question in the past, I'm not going to answer the question again. Just so you know, and I had a little bit of an issue last week with a thing where I don't know why this person did not understand the answer that I had given. It just is what it is. But I'm not going to take the time to answer a question, the same question, repeatedly. So just so you know that, for those of you who are also listening and don't understand why I would, I just maybe not answer somebody's question. I'm not going to take the time to explain it to them either, but I'll take the time to explain it to y'all. So anyway, here we go. Okay, I want to thank everybody who's here today joining me on in YouTube chat. You guys, you have to, if you can come online with us and join us in YouTube chat, we have Vaughn and Patrick and Heather, Terry, Sal, Kate. I think that's everybody. I think that's everybody. I have to double check. Yeah, I think that's everybody in the chat right now that I can, I can see. Come on over. You can ask questions in the chat. I try to answer those questions. Again, you can call in to the call in line, which is<PHONE_NUMBER>. And I will answer questions. I will take your call and answer a question there. If you have a question about life, love, career, finances, call in or put it in the chat. If you'd like to connect with a loved one on the other side, again, you can call in or put it in the chat. I'll do my best to connect with that. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Okay, I'm going to start with songs today. I have been getting such this song. Songs can be a song, the person on the other side listen to you listen to you like them together, or they could be an answer to a question that's been going on and you don't know what to do. Whatever it is, it is. The first song coming through is that song, Riders on the Storm. Into this world we're born. And I don't know that song. So for me to even get that many words to it is, it's funny to me. It's just funny. The next song is that let me love you song. And then the next song is man, I was getting so many old school like really old schools songs this morning. And this is why I should write them down because now they're just disappearing. I can't get them in again. That song she bop a be my baby I can't I don't know the beginning part of that. And then the beer barrel polka. These are really old. And then the song, the, oh my god, the tide is high. I don't even know if those are the, I'm not the kind of girl that I don't know. I don't even know if those are the words to that song. Oh my goodness. Not the Cindy Lopper one, Patrick, the really old one, that really old one. That really, really old one. Sorry, Patrick, that's not the one, but I like that song too. The next one is, the next song is, I'm going to do two more songs and then I'm going to move on. Somebody is just giving the message trap rap, if you know. And then, and then the next song is, okay, one more song folks, give me one more song. Oh, it's that guy that everybody used to throw their underwear on stage to him. That's all they're showing me is, is that Frankie Valley? I don't even know. Like he was on stage and girls would take off their underwear and throw them to him. It's that guy. I can't even imagine that's Frankie Valley, but he used to sing love songs or something. I don't know. I don't even know who this is. Does anybody know? Maybe Tom Jones. Yes, thank you, Patrick. Oh my goodness, Patrick. Yes, maybe Tom Jones. I don't really, gosh, I hope they were clean. That's all I can say. I don't know. Okay, I'm going to drop that there. We are moving on. Oh my goodness. Okay, I'm going to go into names. This could be the name of a loved one on the other side, your name or the name of somebody you had in common. So the first name is, Maurice or Maurice, M-A-R-M-A-U-R-I, yeah, M-A-M-O-R-E-S, Maurice. Okay, the next name is Roberta. The next name is the next name, Jack. The next name is Jolene or Jolene. And then the next name is Gelenta. The next name is Makisha. The next name is Diane. The next name is Chris or Christopher. The next name is Christiana. The next name is Lexie. The next name is, they're saying, just call me Lollie. Just call me Lollie. The next name is Michael. The next name is Brian. The next name is Doug or Douglas. The next name is William. The next name is Joseph. I think it's Joseph. But I see Josephat and Josephine also. The next name is just, okay, the next name is Joe or Judy. And I think I'm actually personally associated with this person. The next name is, the next name is Bill. And then the next name is Will, Willie. Will, Willie, and then Willita. And I'm going to just leave the names there and we're going to move on to the next part of the show where I take callers. If you'd like to call in and ask a question, the number is<PHONE_NUMBER>. If you'd like to ask a question in the chat, I'll be going back and forth between the chat and the questions on the call log. So here we go. I'm going to start with 860-860. What's your name and where are you calling from? Hi Tony. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm hanging in there as the word. So I'll just get to the question. There are two females in the family genre that it's just really been difficult. And I'm just wondering if you feel like it's going to clear up a little bit. I think it's just for me, the words have been surrender, letting go, and detachment. So anything you've got for November to clear up or anything you have in sight wise. So Amla, the first thing, I just want to remind everybody. The month of October was a little bit difficult for everything going on in the world. Plus we had two major eclipses and the last eclipse was Saturday.  They do. This one I didn't. I was so tired and just very emotional throughout the weekend. And I feel like that's probably the case for a lot of people. Let some time pass. The biggest thing I hear is let bygones be bygones and move into a space where you can be at peace with everything. Not everything is a make or break moment. Now, I'm going to emphasize this. One incident with family or a close friend isn't a cause for a break.   You don't have to, you know, deal with that. But you don't have to make it be a break either, especially when we have a smaller family dynamic. You can just, and I say this to people all the time, you don't have to participate in conversations that are not healthy for you. You can limit if somebody, if you know that somebody you talk to has the propensity or the, I don't know if that's the right word, that's the word they use. If you know that somebody that you communicate with has the ability to take it to a negative place, an unhealthy place or place that doesn't make you happy, limit your phone and or in person time. Just make it shorter. Just set a timer and literally get off the phone when that timer goes off, like it's a fire alarm kicking you out of the building. We are not obligated to people, but if we can't let them go due to family dynamics and being in a smaller family situation or being, because not everybody can just, you know, let go of people, it's not always possible. So just limit that time so that no hurtful things can be said or done or no chaos can come up. People tend to trigger each other, especially when they're in family and it's to show what hasn't been healed yet.   People are who they are for whatever reason. But if you can't cut it out, cut it down and stick to your, stick to your timelines, two minutes, five minutes, whatever it is, but never more than five minutes. I find sometimes, in Amla, in your situation, I would say there are certain people in my life that I wouldn't even try to explain what's going on in my life or talk about my life too, because they're so whatever in their life, whether it be overwhelmed into whatever, they could never even whatever. So I would, hi, how are you? What's going on? Okay, I got to go. And if they would say how are you, I'm like, everything is beautiful. Don't, you know, I'm good. They're not my go to people for that, or they weren't. So in your case, it's it might be best to have those be the people that you hi, how are you? And then move on to somebody else. Our, our family is not always the family we're born to are not our go to people. For, for a lot of different reasons for a lot of different people. So having said that, Amla, I hope that's helpful. I hope that that helps to bring you some relief and remember by the end of the week, a lot of this will have fizzled out. And then into next week, it will get softer and smoother. And it should be a better situation for you and everybody else. Remember, we are going through a lot of difficult things, not only just everywhere we look, it seems like everything is not doing well. So just, let's be patient and kind as we can to others. And if that means a little time and space in between, that's a good idea too. Okay, La. Oh my God. Thank you so much for the clarity about next week getting softer. I really needed that. I appreciate it. And the scorpionic and the eclipse really had me hard. One especially, but I understand what you said. And I appreciate you. Thank you. I'm doing my best. And I love your insight. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much, Amla.  Don't hang up yet. Well, don't hang up. Listen to the rest of the show unless you're watching it. But I'm going to mute you just because I don't want to keep you on the phone while I say, you know, if you're not familiar with eclipses and you want to learn a little bit about it, eclipses are supposed to do just that. Take things that they eclipse things out of our life. Now, if you follow the moon or you believe in these things, I don't know. One of the things that they say is that with the new moon, you can set your intentions, your prayers, your manifestation, whatever you call it for what you want, the full moon fades things out. So a lunar eclipse really can fade things out. But let me tell you something. This doesn't always mean people. Okay, Amla and everybody else listening, it doesn't mean the person themselves. It means certain habits, behaviors, cycles that are not only with this person, but possibly other people, you can use this time to heal that whatever that causes within you to help to release it. And so you don't repeat the cycle anymore. So for you, everybody listening, all unhealthy. Oh, I know it hasn't. I can already feel it if you guys can feel this. All unhealthy cycles, habits and patterns have been cleared. I'm getting a no, let's clear that out. And if you want to come back to this, it's at the 20 minute mark of the show. All that cause kept and continues. This has been he'll cleared release. I'm getting a no, let's get that out. Let's really get all of this out. Let's clear it away. And move on in a better direction. And this is the perfect time to do it when we're ready to let something go and look at, you know, everybody's behavior in it, because we're all just trying to be heard. We are all just trying to be heard. I think if social media has taught us anything, it's taught us how insignificant people feel and possibly how lonely they are and how they're just trying to be seen and or heard in any way. That is a one thing I think when I'm looking at social media and some of the things that people are saying and doing, I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is a person that really probably was never heard in their life or never seen or feels as though they were never heard or seen in their life. I'm really happy. I didn't really happy. I did not grow up with social media. I'm so grateful for that. Okay, I'm going to go to the first question on YouTube. And it's from Anne. Hi, Anne. Thanks for joining the show again. I'm so happy to see you here, Anne.  He wants to know how she's doing. He misses her.  And she wants to tell him to this song comes in. I think it's Patrick's going to tell me who this song is.  I think it's not the stand up for your rights part.  Even if it's just Bob Marley. Yes. Thank you, Patrick. And I don't know if his mother listened to Bob Marley, maybe not. But that song is the first song that came in.  Sit and explore when you can, while you can, and allow yourself to be out in a new environment. Okay. And the other, excuse me, the other thing she wants to, oh my goodness, excuse me, you guys, the other thing she really wants to say is that he should take the next step. I don't know what that means for the two of you, but he's supposed to take the next step. I don't know if that's like with, I'm just going to put some things on the table here, work, relation. I don't know what that's in, in what he should know what that means, but take the next step, take the next step, take the next step, whatever that means. And I hope that was helpful for you. I hope that you enjoyed that message. I'm going to go to the very next caller. And if you would like to call in<PHONE_NUMBER>, or you can join us on YouTube, or to ask a question, 417-417. Hello. Hi there, how are you? Yes, how are you doing? Good. Can you turn down whatever you're listening? That's, I think so. Yeah. Okay, I had nothing else on. Okay, how can I help you learn? A different feeling about it. Is she the nightmare? What I'm going to do is I'm just going to start clearing it. Okay. I have a number. You know what, whatever you're listening to me on, could you just turn that off right now? Because you're hearing it twice. I'm not sure what I, you're breaking up, but I don't have you on speaker. Okay, I understand you don't have me on speaker, but whatever device you're listening to me on, I can still hear it. So I just muted you, but I am going to give you your answer. Because otherwise, when I'm talking, then in the background, I can hear what I'm saying like on a delay. So it's okay. I'm still going to give you your answer. And what I'm going to say is I, I think when people have nightmares, it's, it can be a number of different things. We're just going to clear for anybody who's having nightmares to, to not have nightmares. And we're also going to, she's clear. She's unclear. Let's clear that. And then the last thing I'm going to say, whatever's causing these nightmares, it should be gone. But I, you know what, you guys, I offer a, a thing where once a week I clear you, your home and everybody in it, you don't have to be, it's usually Sunday night, very late at night, but I do it throughout the week too. I guarantee once a week, but sometimes I do it during the week. I always do it at some point during the week also. And I clear you, your home and everybody in your home. And it's a really good, very good option to keep your energy, your home's energy and anybody who lives in your home's energy very clean and clear and just in a very good space. And I recommend that you look at that. If you, if you're interested in that, I feel like that would be a very good option in this case. Oh, there it goes. Okay. Yeah, there it goes. Okay. She should be good. And what I will say is sometimes nightmares and those things that wake us up at three, four in the morning are things that just need to be cleared away and take like kind of just cleared and healed and whatever else. I feel like some of this has to do with, why is she having them? Okay. So let's do, I'm just going to clear it. I'm not going to talk too much about it. And then again, t-o-n-i-g dot i-n-f-o is the website. If you want to check out the monthly healings or clearings for you and your home, that would be, that would probably be very, very beneficial. Okay. I'm going to go to Diana. Hey, Diana, how are you today? Hi, Toni. Hope all is well. It is, it is well. She's from Houston. I have a question been thinking of possibly moving to Mexico, maybe in the next three years, I need to, I need a change, but do you see me moving? Okay. As of right now, Diana, as of right now, the answer is no. However, at any point that you put your full energy into this, this may become something that you might want to do. The one thing that I am getting is Mexico as a visitor. And this is what I'm hearing. I've never been to Mexico. I'm not really familiar with it. So I'm speaking strictly from, from guidance here. Mexico as a visitor, even if you're visiting family, friends, Mexico as a visitor is very different than Mexico as a resident. There are a lot of things that you need to take into consideration if you're, if you're thinking about truly relocating, and one of those things for you would be long-term work situation. Really research the long-term work situation. The other thing I'm hearing about that Diana is there are a lot of things changing everywhere that if you make certain moves now or in the near future, I consider one to three years near future. There may be, they're using the word consequences, but that sounds so icky. There may be things that can't be undone. There may be things that cannot be undone if that's something you do. Now, here's what I'm going to say. If you're in the situation to go there, start a business or run a business or have something that is concrete, that's a better situation, but depending upon another business or a work from home situation in the long term is not going to be viable for, for this personal situation. Okay. And I feel like that's something to take into consideration. And as of right now, the way things are, the guidance I'm getting is that's not your strongest move. I know why they're telling me, you know, all the reasons you would want to, but you want to think about that long term out of it. I hope that answer was helpful. You're welcome, Diana. I hope that that gave you some insight into what you might be looking at. And really what I'm hearing is long term, just making sure that long term, the employment and the housing would be solid. And I'm just going to leave that there because I feel like that, that is a very good place to leave it. Okay, Diana. If you, if you're watching on YouTube and you have a question, please feel free to ask it. I am going to go to the next caller who is, I don't know, did I do 415 or was, I think that was 417 last, I'm going to do 415, 415. What's your name and where are you calling from? Hey, Tony, this is Kate. Hey, Kate, how are you? Good. I just haven't slept in about three nights and the clearing helped a lot. I was wondering if there's any other Eclipse message for me that maybe I'm not getting, that's keeping me up. That's a good question, Kate. For you personally, I just, the first word I hear is nomad, nomad nomad and then the next word I hear is a stranger in your own town. It's not a word, it's a sentence. Stranger in your own town. And then the next thing I hear is you, you're unsettled right now. Okay, Kate, whatever those things mean for you, you can put them where they belong. What I am going to say is I'm going to do another healing and or clearing all that was supposed to go this is for anyone anywhere everyone listening or and or watching all that was supposed to heal release with this eclipse has healed and released with this eclipse I'm getting a no so we're gonna we're gonna heal clear and release that oh it's safe and comfortable yep it's safe and comfortable let it all go we're gonna let all of this go these things come in to help us progress evolve and be in that space where we can so called I'm hearing the word graduate or move up a level or go into a space that is um healthier for us so all emotional psychological even physical um spirit anything all that's supposed to go let's get it gone now for everyone you might feel this differently and but the fact that if you're feeling it it's good it's very very good so and if you're not feeling it it doesn't mean it's not working it just means maybe you're just the type of person that doesn't feel energy as much as other people okay um I've had people that have come in for a session or over the phone with a session and their bodies flying all over the place and then other people who just stand there and go I'm not moving I'm like don't worry it's okay and then other people whose arms are out um like in the cross position and they're leaning back and you know it for everybody it's very different and it's very personal um so however anybody feels this cool heat pressure tingles it's perfect it's and if you don't feel it that is also perfect so just know whatever was supposed to go is going to go but um find a base is what I'm hearing or a place that is like your safe space okay right thank you that's great you are so welcome I got it thank you so much for calling in um and I hope that you have an amazing rest of the week this eclipse energy can last up to like two weeks for some people it might hang on a little bit to a month but the the faster you let these things go the the better it is um I and again I don't know a lot I don't know enough about eclipses to act like an expert on here I don't I don't know honestly enough about anything to act like an expert what I will say is I always research it hey you guys by the way there's something really I was going to write this down um I want you guys to if you're comfortable doing this in New Zealand I know it's New Zealand there was a woman running for prime minister and if this is still up I saw the video on tiktok at like two in the morning and um if the video is still up I wish I could look it up right now and play it for you um this I don't know they they just had a vote there but if I don't know if she won the vote or not but she did this video that is amazing and I think everybody should listen should watch and or listen to it it was very factual it's very pertinent um and I I do believe what she saying is is very important for everyone to know um and I'm sorry the only thing I have is she she she just ran for prime minister in New Zealand and she's working with a whistleblower and if that doesn't intrigue you I just don't know what will okay um yes and for anybody who also um who who wants to know why for the the why of that once you look at that video and you want to know the the why look up c 40 c 40 cities and again I'm asking I know I've researched I've looked into all of this there's 40 cities in the US and Hawaii one of them being in Maui amazingly where the fires were those tragic tragic fires there's 40 locations 40 different cities that they have mapped out that just look it up c 40 cities and one of them's Miami one of them is um so if you want to know why the New Zealand thing and you want to know what's really going on look up uh c c like cat 40 cities okay and then look up and another thing you can look up they're called 15 minute cities and look up what they're like you get three articles of clothing a year that's that's in there they literally wrote it out I'm not making this up it's not conspiracy theory if they are putting it out look it up yourself so that you don't have to argue with anybody who's talking to you about it if you don't want to look it up and you don't know well just be surprised by it I have a theory or uh insight that some of the first people they're going to put in these cities are people who are on regular payments from the government but we'll see what happens with that we will see what happens with that um patricia patricia has a question hi moved to albuquerque by the way of house pet sitting oh nice sit ends 11 15 here with six cats oh my gosh oh my gosh six cats any messages for me with that I may have not heard with the eclipses lots of interference okay so I'm not sure what you want to know patricia do you want to know if another cats if another cat sitting if another pet sitting position is coming in um I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go with is she gonna have another position come in right away yes not it might not be like the next day but it will be within a very short period of time you're going to have another position come in that's going to be very good for you okay I hope that that works for you patricia I I'm not sure if that's what you were asking about but that's what I'm giving you hey karma Karen welcome to the show um Karen I'm going to take a call I'm going between calls and um and questions online so you will be next I'm going to go to um 920 920 what's your name and where are you calling from hey don how can I help you today 15 months I need to find something to keep myself busy and I'm trying to find something close to what you see for me okay don the first thing I hear is travel so I know that I don't travel travel like yeah so that's the first thing I hear that's not here's what I'm gonna say don um I'm gonna tell you what I'm hearing you get to choose whatever it is that you wish to do now when I say travel I'm not saying take that on every week for the next 52 weeks that would be a bit extensive excuse me everybody I have a little um but what I am hearing is make plans take a couple of trips enjoy life as well um the next thing to keep yourself preoccupied or occupied is you could volunteer if you want to I don't feel like that's going to last very long if you start to volunteer whether it's with a pet um organization or otherwise I don't feel like that's going to be what you want it to be but I do feel like you are going to start I don't know if this makes sense to you but there's something you're going to start to do or organize on your own that's going to be helpful for yourself and for others so maybe for example it could be how to move on once you've lost somebody you could start organizing groups like that um what I'm not saying it is that that was just an example what I'm saying is if you volunteer someplace it will you can do that you'll enjoy it while you do it but it won't last very long um you should plan one or two trips and get out and about but the other thing I'm hearing is that you might organize and or start a a group where people come in and support each other in moving on after loss uh Dawn I do hope that's really helpful for you and there was a lot of static in the background so I had to mute you because the phone was kind of staticky and I know sometimes the call in the the thing I use for calling sometimes it is very staticky sometimes it is very the connection isn't the best but it's what we have so we do use it and that's that and I'm grateful for it because it is there and it offers a service that I really can't get um any place else so thank you um Karen wants to know will my son find love uh I hate Karen how old is your son and what's his first name just his first name Karen please give me that and I will be happy to give you whatever information that I get on that um I want to thank everybody here for being here thank you all so much I'm so grateful for each and every one of you joining me um just uh Karen if you can put that first name in and the age oh Jared 47 I'm so sorry she did she did the eyes the eyes um Jared 47 is Jared when is well I'm not going to ask if I'm going to ask when when is Jared finding love I hear tomorrow now tomorrow doesn't always mean he's going to jump out of bed tomorrow walk out and the male lady's going to be the one or the pizza delivery lady's going to be the one although I do see a lot more women delivering pizza in my area I don't know um what I am hearing is it's coming in very soon given the fact that he's out there and he's participating whatever that means he is not going to meet this person online he's going to meet them organically uh imano imano I don't know what that really means face to face he's going to meet this person in public it's not like a private event meaning like a family birthday party wedding something like that it's something that's more public I do feel like he Karen what area do you guys live in uh what is your winter weather like winter weather because I'm seeing something that I just want to know before I put it out there um Oregon okay it does get a little bit cooler there in the winter right if I'm not mistaken um hardly any snow okay here's what I'm going to tell you lots of rain okay he's going to meet her in public he's going to meet his partner in public it's going to be a public setting I feel like he is not alone when he meets this person I feel like he may be like let's say this is an example not an exact you and him are at lunch and it's it's you're sitting outside or whatever you're walking outside and this there's this person that's something like that I'm not saying he's going to meet her outside I'm just saying it's not like a it's not a friend of a friend or anything like that I'm sorry I don't understand why it's taking me so god-awful long to explain this to you he's going to meet her in a public setting and he is going to meet her within this within they're saying within this year I'm going to put it within a year they're saying by January sometimes if somebody doesn't get out and go do things that timeline isn't fair it's not going to work if he's sitting on his house couch yeah again pizza delivery person or somebody who robs him I don't know what I'm going to say is given the fact that he gets up gets out and is out and about and I got you know a couple weeks ago I did get this for somebody else um I feel like okay this is a public space I feel like there's an element of outdoorsyness but there's it's also something like I know this is going to sound crazy but like a league sort of thing now this doesn't mean he has to be on the league but the people he could be watching people out like they have volleyball leagues football football league soccer leagues uh lawn bowling or bocci bocci leagues um it's something like that like it doesn't mean he's on it it means he could be walking past it or whatever but there are people gathered and that's what I'm getting now I don't feel like this is a a bar league like a pool league or a darts league I feel like it's more of an outdoor um something that happens outdoors um it could even be great could be watching a rugby game someplace like because I'm hearing rugby I don't think I've ever seen rugby I couldn't describe two things well maybe they tackle people in rugby I don't know I could not describe rugby for you but I'm hearing rugby so whatever it is it's outdoors and there are people gathered okay that's what I have for that he has the potential given the fact that he gets up and gets out and actually looks around the crowd at people to see can he make eye contact with somebody and connect um that's going to happen I do feel like warm drinks are involved like I see hot cocoa or coffee being involved like so that tells me maybe people are are a little cold so it is the cooler weather okay okay that was Karen thanks thanks for asking um and I don't know pickleball either so many people talk to me about pickleball I do not know pickleball either I'm going to go to 405 405 what's your name and where are you calling from and your name love Dakota how can I help you I was wanting to know if I had any messages from my grandpa what's your grandpa's I'm sorry go ahead Albert oh okay okay I'm gonna tell you something your name is Dakota correct thank you so much earlier today I saw a very thin I forgot about that until just now when this woman popped back in again a very thin elderly woman popped in and I don't know if this has to do but she just popped in again I mean I I was taking a shower going can I get a moment here and she was like in my face and I was like kind of feeling like I know we're both women but I haven't felt this uncomfortable since junior high for real for real can you back up a little bit um oh god okay so the first she is the first person that actually is popping in and right behind her is um a male that's coming in and has his he has he is with her now this could be his mother or his his wife your your grandmother or his his mother your great-grandmother or grandmother let me put it that way either way either way I'm going to say this he is here and she is here um and I want to thank him for not coming into my shower this morning what I am going to tell you is they both want to tell you that they love you and your can I please ask you uh Dakota what do you do for a living and how old are you I'm disabled I'm 33 33 okay and Dakota um for whatever this means for you okay whatever it means for you you're going to understand it for you you're on the right track don't give in and don't give up keep going you're gonna get there um don't let anybody else divert you don't let anybody else try try to take you off of track or take you in a in a direction that is not um your personal direction okay okay and then the the next thing they want to say is um they they are going to bring a song through so they've already started bringing one song through and it's I'm all out of love I'm so lost without you and then um for something for so long um now that might be how you're feeling right now but they're saying just hold on and then they're singing that song I can't do this so I everybody knows I can't sing I shouldn't have to say up each four every single song uh hold on I can't even do it I'm trying to do the high the high voice the guy uses mama oh I can't even think of the word they're just saying hold on I love this song too they very rarely play it but I love this song um you want to cry you want to scream you want to cry when you feel like something or you want to something when you feel like that's the words of the song if you can find that song by my very horrible description please do um I'm so sorry I don't know I'm not getting the words so um I'm all out of love but hold on because right around the corner you have no idea what's coming in and you are going to be pleasantly surprised by what's right around the corner everything's about to fall into place and right on time I hope that makes sense to you Dakota I really do they love you and they are helping you please know they are helping you okay thank you so much absolutely my pleasure thank you so much thank you thank you you too thank you so much thank you okay everybody thank you so much everybody um let me see I think I can do I hate Patrick I'm starting to plan my road trip back to California the day after Thanksgiving do you sense any advice for me um yes give yourself extra time a lot of extra time to get there and double check all of your reservations or stops stops stop spots whether it's to recharge to eat to whatever double check all the spots to make sure they're on they're open and your reservations are made correctly Patrick I hope that's helpful for you what part of California are you going to love um and Patrick I may just uh I may just fly in for a weekend yes I'm a lot of love I'm so lost with you yes Patrick that song by Air Supply um if you can tell me the name of the other song I would love that that that other one hold on um but whatever it's not important okay um Michelle Lee oh I love you too can I can call it oh yeah Wednesday I'll be Michelle I okay for everybody everybody okay if you want to join the live show it's every Monday at noon central time us noon central time and Wednesday 7 p.m central time us um I go live for 90 seconds here we go and it's an hour because this actually does air on television and the the time slot for tv my tv show is an hour and and you guys all all of you make that very very possible for me so thank you so much remember everybody you are so loved and so cared about and make miracles just in your life every single day get out there and make miracles and miracles are just those things that are um like magic little magic moments um creating your world oh okay I will see everybody at Wednesday until then just just make magic happen in your life


Some of the tricky parts of Figuring out when to deploy the military is when does one protect the assets of Americans? What rises? To the need for military intervention for example When the Iranians nationalized oil for American companies when then the Saudis and others did the same thing Did that require military intervention now? I believe the answer is yes I believe the United States should have but why is it because oil is so important? Yes Or as a strategic commodity owned by American companies in French and in English and so on and it was being stolen not by just by individuals But stolen by the government Governments that philosophically ideologically we're never going to be our allies not really not deep down And therefore it would have been a disgrace. There was a disgrace to allow them to allow them To have these assets I mean think about the Middle East today if The oil in the Middle East was not all of it, but a big chunk of it was owned by American companies You know it would it would completely have changed Them at least imagine an America that was stood up to nationalization Imagine America that stood up to the taking of its own embassy. I mean God. I mean talk about a fiasco Imagine a government that would have allowed The French and the British to claim for themselves this Suez Canal because it wasn't the Egyptians not in the name of Colonialism but in the name of property rights It wasn't the British government in the French government that owned the Suez Canal, but it was French and British companies But that is a that is a fascinating alternative universe that unfortunately We did not live through and there's no indication we're going to live through but that's the kind of idea of protecting property rights Imagine a government that took seriously its responsibility To protect Americans around the world and not let them be abused by foreign governments. I mean within reason right within Imagine a country It didn't allow this is another function of the military Part of what the military is their form in terms of outside American borders is To protect the property of Americans an example of that would be to secure the shipping lanes To secure the ability of Americans to trade freely with whoever they wanted to secure ships Coming to America going for America or carrying an American flag And there would be a lot more ships carrying an American flag if we didn't regulate the industry As much as we do but imagine You know our military then would have the responsibility of being out there on the seas and Protecting the shipping lanes. So you remember the Somali pirates that seemed to have lasted years It could have been dealt with in a day or two You take whatever US fleet is in the Indian Ocean you bring it to the coast of Somalia You spend two days bombarding the villages on the coast And you basically tell them If you continue with the piracy, we will continue bombarding your coastline You stop it and you stop it now if you're willing to engage with if the military is deployed properly Threats disappear quickly and the consequence of that is The consequence of that is peace The consequence of that is admiration For you by the rest of the world not hatred but admiration and ultimately the rest of the world adjusting to your values Instead of the world in which we live in today where America is Adjusting accommodating compromising with the values of anybody and everybody out there. They are the standard. They are the they are the good guys We God forbid stand out for our own values for own Right Brad, thank you. That's very generous. I appreciate that. All right, let's see. All right So I know John had a question here related to the topic How should a properly trained senior military officer deal with a political leadership that follows just war philosophy and thus puts troops at unnecessary risk? I mean, I think a Military officer should resign I mean look He is A subordinate There is a constitution the constitution clearly places the responsibility on The civilian authority To determine The engagement of wars and how wars will be fought the authority lies with the with Congress the authority lies with the president it doesn't with the generals The generals can't ignore Congress They can speak up they can try and convince they can try and change but at the end of the day if that all fails They need to leave They need to quit they can't be part of a world in which they are sending their troops whom they are directly responsible for With rules of engagement that contradict everything they know about how to win wars and what is necessary to win those wars But let me say let me say this and I think this is important Most generals agree with the rules of engagement Most generals created the rules of engagement and Need to a large extent the rules of engagement were developed in West Point not in Congress You know last time I looked at the West Point curriculum Michael waltzer Who is the Philosopher of just war theory the guy who wrote a book on just war theory the guy who's Advocated and again written books about this. He teaches at West Point. He's not some external factor He is part of the machinery of training future generals I don't think Patton could exist in the American military today MacArthur they wouldn't find a home with Sherman Be allowed to Survive in the American military. Would he want to would he resign? I mean Certainly not a Patton. I love I don't know if you've seen the movie Patton I highly recommend it with Jotsie Scott are playing Patton. It's it's a brilliant performance of a you know portrayal of a brilliant but Crazy guy Patton was a little crazy And as a speech he gives to the troops in the movie and I think this is tailored on a real speech that Patton made And one of his one of the statements in the speeches.  You do not send troops into battle to die for the country You send troops into battle to make the other guy die for whatever cause he's fighting for Your troops are supposed to live Your troops are supposed to destroy if you're interested in in Patton as a warrior. I recommend Victor Davis Hanson's I forget the name of the book but there's a book in which he has three great warriors Sherman Patton and a Greek and a Greek warrior whose name I forget but It's an excellent book much of You know a lot of what I know about military history. I know from Victor Davis Hanson. I disagree with Victor Davis Hanson emphatically about Philosophy and about certainly about his politics today, but in terms of military history, I think is brilliant There's another book of his about why the West Why the West Won its battles Versus the East and one of the claims he makes is that the West won because the West was willing To engage in total war the West was willing to eviscerate the enemy and Understood that it wasn't just the soldiers who were part of eviscerating the enemy So I recommend I recommend Victor Davis Hanson's book. I definitely recommend the movie. I think the movie is really good Yes, it portrays Patton as a bit of a nut, but he probably was a bit of a nut and No, I don't think I don't think the movie portrays Bradley as a hero at all You know, they are seen after seen after seen where Patton's judgment is for superior Bradley's judgment or Eisenhower's judgment whether it's You know, it's obvious from the movie that Patton should have led the invasion On D-Day, it's obvious from the movie The pattern should have invaded Czechoslovakia to prevent the communists from going there Bradley stops them from doing it It's obvious from the movie the unbelievable ability of Patton to pivot in the middle of his marching towards Germany to pivot I think it's northwards in order to save The the 101 division the airborne division who was surrounded by the Nazis and to pivot on a dime a tank battalion or whatever it was To pivot it to destroy the Germans. I mean it was just his genius as a military thinker Comes across I think very well in the movie even if he's made to seem like Somewhat of a kook so if you're not gonna read a lot of books on Patton the movie is a not a bad introduction to him and But I do recommend Victor Davis Hansen but but some of the scenes and and reading up a little bit about about What Patton did in World War two a patents ability to lead patents ability to cease strategically power patents ability It is truly stunning truly stunning All right All right, we're getting some super chat questions here, but I'm gonna start with the Ones that are relevant to the topic particularly the ones with the big dollars relevant to the topics So let me see yes from Brad A hundred dollars. Thank you for no overseas bases I see value and I neighbor bases in Japan and and the Western Pacific to allow us to quickly address issues in that area of a while Forefarm home similarly with a Navy base in Rota Spain I know troops in South Korea shouldn't be there, but where's the line drawn? I mean the line is drawn based on military strategy. I mean the line is It's not for philosopher. It's not for somebody like me to say where the basis should be Yes You know if you're wanting to protect the shipping lanes You probably need a base somewhere between Japan or the Philippines that we used to have a base in the Philippines And that was very useful the shipping lanes get very tight Around the South China Sea You know, there are a lot of islands there's a lot of pirates there, of course China Has claim over much of that sea and China's a real threat in that area But if you're there to protect the shipping lanes, you need some presence In the Western Pacific in the Southwest and Pacific in either Japan or the Philippines And it's it's up to you to negotiate that and to find an appropriate ally You don't want a base. It's not clear that a base in the Philippines if the Philippines is not a true ally Is the right thing at a base in Japan where Japan is a free country and an ally is a good idea I think the same thing in in Europe A base in Spain or a base in Italy or base in Israel for the Navy All appropriate because all those countries are allies of the United States a base in Turkey is not we have today Military bases with F was bases in Turkey, but it's not appropriate because they're not our island A base in Australia might be a good idea, right? But you don't need many right the point is you don't need many not with the ability of the US Army to project force What was the ability of a aircraft carrier group to be out in the middle of the ocean? for very long periods of time because of Nuclear power that that fuels You know maybe some fueling stations, but you don't need that many bases I'd say Again, but this is this is an issue of strategy not an issue of philosophy something in the Western Pacific and Something in there in there in in Europe You might need a base in Germany to be able to project force into the Middle East if the Middle East is a problem You might need a base in Italy if you consider Russia a threat to the United States, right? I Don't think we need troops in Korea But again, we have to decide are we gonna defend Taiwan if we defend Taiwan Having troops in South Korea is not a bad idea because then it's quick over to To Taiwan, but maybe maybe it's better to have the troops in in Japan Which I think if I remember my geography is closer to Taiwan and and By not having troops in South Korea We don't give the the world and the South Koreans the idea that we will defend them because we shouldn't They can defend themselves rich country North Korea's pathetic South Korea should be able to defend themselves. We shouldn't be there Taiwan if you you know depending on how you view China and depending on what happens with China Taiwan could be very very important to containing China But that depends on where do you view China as a real threat to the United States from military perspective Remember I ran did not view Japan as a military threat to the United States and was against the embargoes on selling Japanese This is before World War two before Pearl Harbor steel I Don't think I agree with I ran from that one, right? Japan was committing atrocities all over the in the Pacific it was it was clearly a Authoritarian to tell the Tyrion regime with with with expansionist ambitions I'm not sure I agree with I ran that we could have stayed out of that And we should have continued to trade with them At some point you have to draw a line So exactly where you put troops is hard to tell but for example today we have troops in 120 different countries Why we have troops in Africa? all over Africa now You could argue because the Muslim terrorists Okay, but those Islamic terrorists Threat to the United States and if they are then we should have for a while a lot more troops they destroy them and then come home But having a bunch of special forces running around Africa Helping local forces or whatever. No, that's not what Americans do if it's a threat to the US Destroy annihilate the threat if it's not a threat to the United States Then it's the country is there. It's their problems Nigeria's problem. It's Kenya and Uganda's problem It's Tanzania's problem. It's not the problem of the United States So you would have to define region by region you'd have to define look if I don't know if India developed into a potential threat to the United States Then the US might want some bases in South Asia or in Eastern Africa To be able to monitor control Be prepared for whatever threat in the opposed to the United States so you'd have to think about it strategically thoughtfully and Only have bases with allied countries and only consider allied countries. I think countries that are free Thank you for listening or watching the Iran Brook show If you'd like to support the show We make it as easy as possible for you to trade with me. You get value from listening. You get value from watching Show your appreciation. 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I'd like to thank Orca Media for filming tonight's event, and I'd like to let you know that you can sign up for our newsletter. There's a list going around. You can also follow us on Twitter or Facebook to learn about upcoming author events at Bear Pond Books. Our next event is Tuesday, October 29th. We will be hosting farmer and author Kristen Kimball for her new book Good Husbandy, Growing Food, Love and Family on Essex Farm. And also please save the date for November 1st. We will be hosting a party called Gin Austin. It's a literary costume and cocktail party with Bar Hill Distillery. They will be here with specialty cocktails from a book called Gin Austin, which is 50 cocktails of the novels of Gin Austin. It's so funny.  Local author NT Anderson will be hosting that event. I think he's going to be wearing a suit from 1770. Thank you for coming tonight for the reading and book signing with our dear friend Ruben Jackson. He'll host Ruben to celebrate the release of his much-anticipated second book of poetry, Scattered Clouds. This collection of new and selected poems is a breath of fresh air.  And with such rhythm and blues, you might be moved to mm-hmm. Or if it's more your fancy, amen. Poems as attributes to Trayvon Martin and Frank Sinatra grace these pages. As do odes to cancer and Miles Davis's kind of blue. But it's not all blue, though, as Ruben's heart and wit shine through. What I love most of all is his final poem in the collection, This African American Life. It's, as I mentioned earlier, a breath of fresh air. And I hope you all enjoy his reading tonight and, more importantly, support this poet by buying his book. Ruben will sign copies after the reading and Q&A. A little true story about Ruben. After graduating from Goddard College in Plainfield just a few years ago, right? He came to work at Bearpond Books. He wanted to work at Bearpond Books. But unfortunately, his mother didn't approve. And Ruben went into teaching. I think ultimately this was a good path for him. But we're happy to have him back at Bearpond Books now. This time on the other side of the books that are counting. Which is where he truly belongs. Ruben Jackson was born in Augusta, Georgia and grew up in Washington, D.C. A music scholar and critic of national reputation, he was archivist and curator with the Smithsonian's Duke Ellington collection from 1989 to 2009. His music reviews have appeared in the Washington Post, Washington City Paper, Jazz Times, Jazz Is, and a National Public Radio. He was host, as most of us probably know, a Friday Night Jazz on Vermont Public Radio from 2012 to 2018. And he makes frequent appearances on WPFW, Washington, D.C.'s publicly supported radio station dedicated to jazz and justice. Please help me welcome the poet Ruben Jackson. Thank you all so, so very much for coming. I've said this to a couple of people here beforehand, but I don't know if you had this experience. Like, I liked summer camp because it got me out of the city for a while. And my parents would get the brochures around March. Some of the camp was like June. So I would be thinking, can I curse a little bit? It won't be too bad. I'd be like, damn, it's only March. When is June coming? And then April would sort of come by. Damn, it's April.  And my point is that I was so anxious for this event. So this summer I'd be like, oh, okay, nine weeks, you know, seven weeks and a week.  Because if it's like 4-1-3, I can't make it. I got to get to Montpelier and do this. So I'm so thankful to be here. I'll tell you just a little bit more about the bear pond thing. When I graduated, I did tell my parents, like, I want to stay here and work at Bear Pond Books. And my mother was, she was more equation than my dad. But I said it, and there was what I call the great silence. And I knew that this is not good. And she put her hands on her hips like this and she said nothing from it.  And that was it. It was like the silence was the ellipses. And I knew that meant I wasn't going to do this. But, you know, she thinks about like, it's a wonderful life. One decision can change everything. It could have happened, these books might not have happened. I probably wouldn't have met many of you. So I'm thankful for what is. And just one thing about Vermont and, you know, reading some poems, I was here seven years.  And you can't stay in the place seven years and not be impacted. So I, you know, like I go to work. There was an opening at the university. And I said, I'm getting dressed nicely for this thing.  And people at D.C. did that said, I won't use the actual word. He said, damn, you're verminas. Yeah, so I'm probably more, you know, seven years here. Like I'm glad to be home because I miss seeing myself. But I also lost a step. So I miss space. And I miss seeing so many of you.  And it sounds mortgage, but you're always in my heart. I'm a quirky M.F. But you are. You end my quirky heart, you know. Okay. This book, Stattered Clouds, it consists of my first book, Fingering the Keys, which came out 28 years ago.  My family's alive, you know, all that. And you realize when you're putting a book together, so there's Fingering the Keys and newer poems, that a lot of life goes between poems. Which is, you know, my mom would say, even men always speak the obvious. But it's true. And I look at the landscape, it's so different now. But what I'll do is read a bit from the, as a kid, say, the old joints, and then some newer things. But I want to talk to you all and with you all. So I'm really looking forward to the Q&A. And I really hope you like the book. It is, I guess, like my life in general, flaws and all, it's, you know, it's from here. Okay. I'm going to start, forget the chronology stuff. It's like when you do the, back when they still hit jukeboxes, you're just like pushing songs because you love them. So one would be like 1957, 2003, whatever. This poem is called April 1975. And it's based upon something which happened, well we all know like C.P. Dudley's in East Montpelier. You know, the student that got her.  When I was at God, like in the 70s, if I saw another person of color, I called every relative I knew. I was like, damn. I saw a black man in berries. And I'm thinking, well maybe it'll be on the news. But it was news to me. So this poem is based upon that thing. I don't, that hasn't changed. There was a, I was in Julio's as a black waitress.   All right. April 1975. Should my black flatlander eyes lock on the other brother in the general store? The first brother I've seen since what seems like I can't count that high. Do I pretend I don't see other people pretending not to see us? Two brothers buying triskets and peanut butter, respectively, is revolution on a Sunday afternoon. Now, I'll take you to my neighborhood, which if you've been to D.C. recently, you know, it's like gentrification on steroids. So this is kind of, there was an essay, Alan Ginsberg wrote for the book, Visions of Cody, Jack Heroic, which came out after Jack Heroic died. And the first sentence, and Ginsberg essay read, Mortal America is here. So this is like Old Black D.C. is here, because it's, you know, it's fading like landlines. But I come from that.  And they say, no, you're from D.C. I said, no, you don't know what I mean. I wasn't talking about geography. I was talking about, you know, that which, as the Baptist say, that which raised you up. So this is white flight, watching in D.C. 1958. When we moved to D.C., my mom was a teacher. And so like people start coming up from like the Carolinas, Georgia. And my friends and I called it the Weekend of Moving Vans, because white people go, pfft, pfft. They say, oh, remember so, we need somebody else for basketball. Oh, they moved last week. But thinking about it from the perspective of a child, and you know, like you're, I forget the comedian who said first I was a child, and then I was black. So that's a bit of a fuel in this gas tank. White flight, watching in D.C. 1958. No more densely freckled girls looking dreamily at the leaves passing by the window. No more playmates staring quizzically at the Negroes on my father's album covers. Sarah Goldfarb reminded me of a girl I saw in an old MGM movie, even though her father said that that, like my crush on her, was impossible. Cosani was a dead ringer for Fabian. Who and where was I? When, I taught high school in Burlington for two years. And you know, you get to school early and you get not just desks right now, but you're trying to get your head into the game to come. You know, the first block is 805. And I would think about guys I grew up with, some of whom are still here, many of whom are not. And I think, what would they think about me being here? You know, someone would say, like, damn, Roop. I don't know. But this was a kid grew up on my block and I don't know if you all had nicknames in your neighborhood during that, but this was Little Man.   But before you need specificity, you know.  Right? Little Man, September 1953. There's a cloud in your head you try and conceal.  The occasional domestic fistfight punctuates the weighty sentence he has become. One day he calls you over and asks about the books you always carry. He wants to know if you know what people are whispering. Are you lonely, he asks? As if he didn't know the answer. He knows you know the lyrics to his song. All right. This is a kid. Why do I say, you know, okay. Jimi Hendrix is now considered you know he's like an icon like one of the architects of I think great expression. But he was controversial, you know and in the late 60s growing up where I did, you know stuff was going on in this country in the late 60s not like the sort of virtual revolution we have on Facebook when people say this is unacceptable.  So there was this kid named Frank who really loved Hendrix and he sat in with his band and this is like what happened Frank. Frank was fired from the El Diablos for inserting Hendrix licks into their celebrated James Brown medley. There was silence as he bent to unplug his wah-wah pedal tongue banished from their world of matching suits and wrote precision choreography. One year later the ghetto was teeming with posthumous interest. Frank's door was bruised from all the knocking. With that Friday, the El Diablos stood waiting for his skyline of amps to come down. I work for the University of District of Columbia as an archivist and I see young people I could not be every day. A young man came in and did some research the other day and he had like a Nirvana teacher at all. UDC is a historically black college university and so I'm seeing this young this young brother and I said man, you know when I was growing up if you had like a Hendrix album you put Hendrix album under like the sofa so you could get home without people teasing you.  But he didn't know what I meant which made me cry because things are a little better. You don't have to be as guarded as we were, you know.  But their hearts are so open and it's just you know I put my head in a book so I don't get all like crazy emotional. But it's a serious thing you know and I think these days to measure any degree of social progress or positivity as we used to say is good. Anyway, now you know who I am. This is another Vermont based poem. My first slow dance, well I did a lot of slow dancing with myself before the basement happened here and it was at a party and I thought wow you know I would come to Goddard and people would ask me, they'd say well what's how do you like school? I'd say it's alright. But I was able to talk to people fellow students about things which really mattered to me which you didn't like say to your boy. So we you know people in the dorm we stay up late reading the Mealsola novel excerpts to ourselves I mean I was like I bloomed but I always had to put it back when I came back home which is it's not good to live your life like an accordion you know like this and I didn't say you know oh yeah my first slow dance was here but it's this so this is based upon that event Privilege Year 1912 should just get something general store, slow dance with Dr. Phil okay no it's alright 1975 it was a long way to go for a party 90 minutes from Canada moon just above my right hand it was winter she was a school teacher who smelled of jazz Stevie Wonder sang looking for another pure love while Jeff Beck spun gorgeous fills and solos we danced as well as our cumbersome boots would allow I bought a pair what they call them Timbs now I bought a pair of Timberlands here I forget they have a store down here on Main Street when I started and I went home for like a week in this quote spring I went to the barbers out and people I walked in and they looked at my feet and said what are you wearing those are the ugliest boots I ever saw in my life well you look at now people wear Timbs like 24-7 all year rappers and stuff and I tell people when I did after school work in DC I used to tell kids I was the first black man in DC to wear Timbs and they were like no and I said no I was people weren't this before all those people know and not just because I'm older you know so people sacrifices have to be made you're a producer called Timberland see that's what I mean I just sit in the house and shake my hand here's the only news alright my the older I get the more I guess we're all like variations on the theme as far as you know parental influence goes but I'm more like my mom every day and I think I hear things pop out my mouth and I go oh my gosh my mother was much more loquacious than my dad and she had definite ideas about things like not working in bookstores after you graduate college and she also she's very middle class she grew up in like a brownstone you know back when she was born in 1924 there weren't many black people I knew of like that and sometimes you want to go play ball outside no Ruben you have to learn which forks to use for the dinner we're having but she also thought she believed in social change but she thought you should look nice when you do it this is like my mother in the afterlife you probably was never in GQ magazine my mother in the afterlife it's 1970 again my mother is shaking her head at the sight of my clothing she never abandoned her dream of a world without denim now there's no escaping her critique you can't have coffee with God looking like that she rolls her eyes at Abby Hoffman and at Bill who owned the headstop near our house death has restored her mind now she's talking curfew my brother laughs behind the clouds I'm going to read this African American language this is the last poem in the book after I left Vermont February 2018 which is not a long time ago but my life has always been like dog years like a lot seems to happen in a year and a lot has happened since I left a lot happened when I was here I mean I had like seven dog years here and it's just that's the tempo for us this is how your band is going to play but I remember just kind of recuperating and really reveling in comparative anonymity there is I don't know hyper hypervisibility can be even if nobody's bothering you so these are some vignettes which popped up after I returned to DC this African American life and the title that take off on the NPR so this American life I always had one of the stuff called this African American life okay this week being pie makers from Chicago okay one I hope I live as long as the nails of the sister sitting beside me on this crowded subway two decided I'll propose to the next brother who calls me main man three if a middle aged black man enters a subway car and no one stares as if my people were new to the planet hell yeah my soul makes a sound four my late friend Joanne appeared in a dream she told me Jesus fainted when I went back to church okay okay just one more about my mom this is I didn't only dating I did in high school was when I go to Safeway and get like dates from you know I was 70 and my mother said well what's up with you you know 1973 this also refers like landline and calling the weather bureau for because I would fake it pretend like I was talking to Pam Greer or something 1973 my mother peers over my shoulder in search of answers please say you're dedicating that poem to a woman you don't seem to know any listening to Ella Fitzgerald does not count so I think of someone call her she says the wind's blowing from the south southeast at 15 miles a mile where my mother is 30.7 inches in comparison yeah I whisper wear that strapless first number see you at 8 you know I'm gonna here's another one I was like a Vermont connection I started messing with characterization and these characters or vehicles a mirror and cadiz are began to take shape and you know you're on Facebook I just kind of think I was loud on social media sometimes and it apparently these characters began to gain a follow Dan Bowles from Seven Days emailed me and said you know I'd like to do a story about these characters and I said oh but I'm just the narrator a mirror the barber would tell me write this down because he's so busy cutting heads he couldn't do this and he knew I liked words so this story was published which maybe some of you saw and after that I do it like Shaw's and people recognize you just I was at the deli counter getting like egg salad or something and this woman said well mirror cadiz have this romance you know and this woman said you know my husband doesn't like poetry but I read him some of the stuff a mirror said to cadiz and he started crying at the dinner table and she said I'm pulling for them and what I learned was you know your work can take on a life or lives of its own and I thought well I need to put I mean I could say it's not really me but the degree of I think emotional candor and tenderness was different from me I think as a writer so I'm glad I was able to capture these things so what you have is a 70 some 80 some euro barber and from Detroit and then you know he meets the CEO Padilla Rollins they fall in what can happen to people these first three poems are three haiku from Amir about Padilla and you know things are starting to sort of bubble up here three haiku who will be the first to save syllables and utter the sweet obvious I would rather be conspiring to hold her hand before the moon dies stop when Khadija smiles on a mild spring afternoon my old heart blossoms now some of these Amir would just write dearest Khadija so this is dearest Khadija to touch your face is to feel my fingers pray all this first I thank the moon for the light on her pillow then whispered her name untitled she is a buoy in the harbor at dusk dearest Khadija the other night as I was driving home I reached my free hand across the passenger seat I imagine you holding it changed then I returned both hands to the wheel I found a parking space two blocks from my apartment beneath a large maple Lord I love this city and turned to kiss you anyway and this is Khadija's not turned this was for Amir she went to a lot of conferences so you know you're out of town we share the same night even when we are distant and sold by the stars and I'm going to yeah I'll stop with this one and then I hope we can you know trade forwards right this is for trade one Martin and what I did or tried to do I was here this is my first year teaching at VHS and is an interesting challenging circumstance I was the black English teacher which for some was a description it was also I think a qualitative kind of ranking with books so this murder happens but I also I thought about that of course the fact that this murder occurred but I thought about growing up and how my friends and I would walk each other home because that's what you did and you know the whole thing was masculinity and you care you love your friends you don't say it but it's like the action you know like people have that stereotype of like New England is being staged and no emotion we taught ourselves how to be like you know I call it the honor guard face so my fantasy about this boy and I don't mean that in a pejorative I just said damn I wish I could have walked him home like we walked each other home growing up this portray on Martin instead of sleeping I walk with him from the store no skittles thank you we do not talk much sneakers crossing the courtyard humid southern night we shake hands and hug ancient stoic tenderness I nod to the moon I'm so old school I hang until the latch clicks like an unloaded gun alright so there's some poems thank you and uh anybody a lot of people say I'm Ferris Bueller anybody anybody okay we're done we're done are there questions for Ruben? just not comments yes please I have a question how did you get into jazz can you perform or are you an influential audience or me or how does it work my family my parents love music and there was also some music in the house I mean a lot of us see one thing about I love about Vermont like the demographics it's like you don't have to explain what things like record clubs you know like my parents belong to the Columbia record club and we get classical stuff country jazz my father really loved jazz there was a little club in our neighborhood and he and his buddies would go a lot and they'd also play records in the basement and drink really cute scotch and I would sit at the top of the steps I'd hear them use it but I'd hear them talking about the artists who play which was also a great what entry into what language can do like they'd say things like oh you know like the saxophone that's Cannonball Adderley was playing that's it that stain on Cannonball Adderley's lapel I think that was like from you know like the egg who you only get from the Chinese joint blah blah blah but that's where I heard a lot of music but I would also say music music kissed me very early you know I could I could read music very early and I thought like my parents would give me hell because I shouldn't do well in math but my father would say like we could put a score in front of you and you could read it but you can't do math but it was because it was in me and it was also like if you're driving someplace you want to get like a score it's a journey to someplace but that's really where it comes from you know just the love for it. I miss you on Friday nights oh bless your heart thank you that was a great a great opportunity I used to bug my friends you know how people like we all play like they hit records back in the day and I was the one who flipped I say turn over the B side there's like a there's a cello counterline in the fifth measure they go from B flat to D flat they're like oh damn Ruben please don't start that again so the show gave me an opportunity to burn off a lot of passion I mean a lot of nerdyness a lot of passion and I still hear from people here who just tell you stuff that I don't know I could make a lot of money for Kleenex I just cry over it people would say oh yeah I count it on here you know Friday nights I used to take a broomstick as a kid and pretend I was on the radio but I never would have dreamt you know this but I'm glad it happened see I'm Southern Baptist like anybody else I I loved I do miss your show and I loved when I first moved there years ago yeah it was such a relief to like turn on the radio and I think that's a black man and I loved your your mix I I love I share the same passion I'm sorry but I I share the tears because I was living in the kingdom when I was listening to you and there would be many a day when you and I were the two black people I knew and but I love your mix was the mix I grew up with and for all the love of Dolphie or Miles yes I think particularly like in our generation you know there was also James Brown and Marvin and I love the way in a jazz format the way you would mix Marvin with Kamasi Washington which is because it's all you can't hear Kamasi without hearing the whole history which I think is so important with jazz as in poetry it's all it's a collection of voice thank you I used to say some of you probably know Kamasi Washington I did the version of W.C.'s clarity loom which became like my sign off and I said this is it was like French impressionism being the urban house party with like the low light bulb and I thought of people who would ask to really really really really really really fine sister dance people like me if you say right hell you must be crazy but it's like that yearning and what I tried to do was illustrate intersections and how even musicians who were quote call jazz musicians listen to much more than that which we consider like okay jazz starts here and stops there and then the influences as you know are so fluid because like Marvin Gaye loves Lester Young and we could go on with that all night and I will say what the artichoke who went to Goddard the saxophone has said I passed through the insipid panorama of Americana with an enormous romanticism it has never left me and so I was guilty certainly of that as a programmer because that romanticism was coming play another ballad but I had to you know it's tricky because you all it's not like I was making cookies for myself in the house but thank you so much I did my best I saw I saw a hand listen can you tell me about how poetry and jazz so how do they dance together for me yeah I was thinking about this the other day I think initially well the first poets I heard and I'm using poetry in a big big you know different way maybe were like the old AM DJs with that rapid you know banter ministers and there were people in my neighborhood who could take I want the other like my favorite expletive they could turn it into a sonata you know like just the beauty the fact that language can describe but it is musical so I thought about that when trying to write and of course like in fingering the keys there are more pieces about jazz musicians and their references that is still there I think in me but it's also I try to focus now on just the jazz and speech and how you've got inflections I won't use the actually but MF which is not Mezzo Forte but like butch to take it and he would say Lucinda you seen Bobby this is Bobby owe me $40 if I see that MF well that's trouble, that timbre is trouble or like my mother's musician was a guy named Cordell who had you know behind stations behind musicians chairs he had like 99,000 pictures of Sam Cook and he would say Miss Mary Sam Cook was at the Howard Theater last night and I think I thought I was going through a hell of a pause that was the way he would speak in the language so hearing and I would go with my mom because my father worked on weekends I'm this kid sitting there and it was kind of funny my mom was kind of strict Baptist in a way and I'd say Cordell really likes Sam Cook and she said yeah I think the Orioles are playing ball that one she didn't want to talk about that you know my point is the connection between what music can do instrumental music or for thinking of what's called jazz and how language can achieve the same thing in terms of emotional impact but just the sound I tell writing students to read your stuff out loud as you're working on just to hear how it sounds not just in terms of whether it makes sense but also just to revel in it like what's that old movie the sound of music I said we're like swishing around at your mom like not like the stuff we used to drink in the alleys but like good wine you know like oh there's a chablis in the third stand but that's yeah it's the quest for the musicality of speech I must be here for a while not like that yes ma'am well just to add to that subject a little bit I recently read Jorge Borghese essay in blindness and he said that his blindness led him into the oral world and caused him to go deeply into learning two new languages one was English the other was Icelandic and he said that this was a gift that caused him to hear the sound of words that he could not hear in his own native language Spanish and so I equate that a little bit with what the best poetry can do it's our language it's English but it presents that language in a form in which you hear the word you hear the sound and the rhythm besides whatever your subject is sure so it was really cool I thought good point I know we have to we can move to book signing unless there's any other questions why are you going to record this so that we can hear over and over is there an audio book in the making of oral come over to WGDR we'll fix you right up oh oh man talking about roots you know that's a great suggestion I uh do it one thing my aunt told me after this book came out was it's my father's last sister she says like my mom she starts with baby she says baby you can't wait another 28 years for another book I said yeah my math is that good that's a that's a good idea I mean I will see what happens I'm thankful that I was approached to do this I hadn't really I started kind of writing a bit more regularly when I had poems in the the voice here I feel your voice and so little by little I don't know thanks for the involved I think what Fats Waller said is to spot on one never knows do one I never knew well any of this but um okay one more whatever you want alright we'll close at midnight yes we will okay could you tell us where you came from EDC and why you came to Goddard I I grew up in northwest are you from DC well I lived there I lived in Brightwood which I think the real state people call something else now but I was east of Georgia Avenue south of Tacoma Park fifth between Ingram and Jefferson so that's yeah it was predominantly Jewish and then we looked at home by Robert Hayden which is like the synagogue became Calvary so with you know and um why came to Goddard I was at a party and in my family college was not an if it was a where it's like you were going and in the living room was a the old Saturday review books and there was I'm flipping through it because that's what you do at a party like music playing people having a good time and you looking at the damn Saturday review books but then I saw a blurb about Goddard and it sounded like a place that would like the snow would stick metaphorically speaking and so I asked the person who was throwing the party if I could just rip the thing I said no just take it home and I shared it with my parents my mother understood well I guess both my parents understood me but my mother understood I'd start trying to write and all that stuff by then she said this is a possibility my father wanted me to go like some place like Notre Dame because he was a pragmatist and he thought you know you can do creative writing if you want to you're not coming back home to live when you graduate but this is right before 11th grade and my mother said oh don't worry I'll work on it and I ended up it was you know coming to Goddard it was the right place for me I started radio and I was a little bit like a fresh air kid in a way I also had these MGM places where you come out the house and people would try to take your money and stuff and I thought you're looking for that land and it looks like those but those train sets with the gazebos and the choir is singing outside Andy and Hope are right you know boy was I naive but anyway but most importantly I could you know I was reading stuff on the download James Joyce and the Bhagavad Gita and stuff like that and I'd hide them so I didn't have to hide in that respect at Goddard and yeah the impact profound people you know you tell people you went to Goddard and they said oh yeah you made it in basket weaving and all that this could just take some serious behind I was at a conference a few years ago talking to somebody about Yates and they said and I said Goddard and so they're waiting for the punch line and I said no I'm not different you know so that's how I got there and I was the first person on my father's side of the family to go to school so eventually when he got behind it it was just quiet but fervent okay go and do well but my mom was like the one calling Sunday and saying give her the blankets and my father's like how are you doing in classes you know he still didn't quite get how Goddard classes were okay don't fail that Dylan Thomas whatever it was but um yeah bless them both I wouldn't be here without without that one more what exactly did you start writing poetry and how did you get over the embarrassment of thinking it was really really bad you know I still have I'm sorry will you finish go ahead you know and how did you develop how did you develop poetry wow I'm still developing my 10th grade homeroom teacher was um editor of our school newspaper I never said anything about writing and one Friday she came to me and said we need a poem for the next issue of the paper so I said well who are your favorite poets I was like an assignment go and get some Dylan Thomas and bring one in and she says no you write it and I'm like what kind of setup is this but I deliberately tried to write the most malchish poem I could it was like they had typing classes back then you know sister who sat in front of me she had one of those flawless um like Roberta Fleck on the chapter 2 album you know like Angela Davis flawless afro so I wrote this poem called like oh to the sister with the most perfect afro and I thought well this is going to get me off the hook because it was it was heavy sugar so I turned it in and Miss Middlebury said this is great you're a staff poet I need a poem every moment well damn like I messed up but I began to enjoy it now the embarrassment part yeah I think it's like anything playing an instrument you fall on your butt uh you go through periods of overt imitation you know people who really strike you I wanted to be like Frank O'Hara for a long time there's a poem in the book which was an attempt to do what he called the I do this I do that poems uh I think time is like the best teacher healer whatever for that there was a teacher and daughter who was really really rough and I turned you know I shared this horrible poem in a workshop and he just like it was scalded he just scalded and I saw him on the path going to the fraction of the library and I tried to I just went the other way and the next day I saw him in the cafeteria and he said Ruben if I was ready to crack your right now I would have gone the other way but it made me fail you know so yeah I'm gonna say this very much anyway I think I'm still developing I enjoy things I hated doing in college like I enjoy revision because like you're in a room and you think well do you want the anwar here do you want it there and I'm not as hard on myself when something doesn't you know you write a draft and maybe what you got is half a decent stance I always think of it as maybe like the foundation for the house or something but uh I'm and I have friends who will tell me you think well this is you know when they hear this this is bad you know good bad yeah and they say uh Ruben and that's it and I know of me like it's not I took it out the oven too soon you know what I mean but for me the joy is just it's the exploration and if you have a day when it's not so great pick it up again I do think for me when you say tragedy I don't know losing people getting older it's helped me with perspective you know since you know this book came out my nuclear family is gone except for me and that so it makes me think it could be worse but uh it's the possibility it's the possibility like Patty Smith said to see your possibilities whew person okay thank you