Day 17th of the fast. Let's dive in. We're gonna talk about today six wrong ways to fast Not every fasting is created equal Yes, drop that in the chat. Not every fasting is created equal a lot of people fast But in order to receive spiritual benefits of the fast, we must know how not to fast Okay, we see for example elders of Jezreel in 1st Kings chapter 21 verse 12 they fasted to condemn an innocent man That was a wrong fast. We see Pharisees fasted, you know, we see this in Luke chapter 18 verse 12 and Jesus condemned that condemned that fast Now what I want to look at today is I want to look at the fast that King Saul did and I want to just Extract about six different things about that fast that were wrong They were not pleasing to God.  Okay, so I just want to kind of bring that in I know that we're on a 17th 17th day and for a lot of you It's your second day third day six day seventh day. So whichever day that you are watching this in I just want to kind of bring a slightly realignment to our fasting and to the idea of fasting by addressing a Wrong way of fasting in 1st Samuel Chapter 14 and verse 24. It says the following and the men of Israel were distressed that day for Saul had placed them under an oath Saying cursed is the man who eats any food until evening Before I have taken vengeance on my enemies So none of the people tasted food now King Saul places unnecessary ban and a curse on his army for Avenging his enemies He actually makes them too fast He makes them to abstain from food and this was a foolish Fasting somebody dropped it in the child foolish fasting. Now. Let's look at the six Signs or six reasons why this kind of a fast is dumb Foolish not only it doesn't bring any fruit It's actually completely Stupid All right Now none of us I believe are fasting this way, but we just still need to highlight that number one foolish fasting is A legalistic fasting that is trying to earn salvation That is trying to earn salvation in 1st Samuel 14 45 But the people said to Saul shall Jonathan die so Jonathan breaks this fast It's a little bit and people say shall Jonathan die who had accomplished this great deliverance in Israel? Certainly not as the Lord lives not one hair of his head shall fall to the ground For he has worked with God this day and the people rescued Jonathan and he did not die What Saul wanted to do is he wanted to earn victory through this fast Interestingly the Lord worked victory through Jonathan who broke this fast Saul's fasting was a legalistic way of trying to earn victory of Trying to secure victory and While we do believe that God uses fasting as an open door to doors and brings favor and everything We must be very clear that power doesn't come from fasting power comes through fasting It comes from God drop that in the chat power doesn't come from fasting power comes through fasting If we begin to see fasting as a source of power Instead of as a channel of power. We are foolishly fasting drop that in the chat again Fasting is not a source of power It's the channel of power We are not saved by good works. We are saved for good works Ephesians chapter 2 verse 8 through 10 and The triad of good works are giving prayer and fasting Let me repeat that again. We are not saved by good works. We are saved for good works and The triad of good works are giving prayer and fasting If you're receiving this drop this in the chat, we are not saved By good works. We are saved for good works and the triad The three-fold cord of good works that triad of good works are giving prayer and fasting it was Jonathan who worked with God and secured victory Yet, he didn't fast It's not that in this case he didn't fast because he didn't want to participate in this foolishness and secondly He probably wasn't aware of what his dad decided to do and The Bible says that people of Israel said hey Jonathan's actually been working with God Why are we penalizing him?  They just provide no godliness because Saul wanted to use fasting as a source For Saul fasting was this thing that it's gonna give him power over the enemy when in reality Fasting is not a source of power. It's a channel of power so that's the first foolishness of fasting when we use fasting as a source when we look to it as Something that guarantees us victory Victory comes from the Lord Victory comes through fasting, but it doesn't come from fasting Alright number one is done. Let's go for number through number two Foolish fasting is driven by fear Not led by faith drop this in the chat foolish fasting is driven by fear Not led by faith. Have you noticed I use the words driven and led King Saul drove everybody into fasting and How do he drive them? He put a curse on people who wouldn't fast That's driving. That's threatening. That's that's scary Pretty much. He says if you guys don't fast you're cursed Wow That's that's scary. He drove people by fear into fasting Instead of leading them by faith instead of saying how it could benefit their walk with God He scared them into doing it by imposing a curse on them Biblical fasting is never driven. It's led Biblical fasting is not driven Now I want you to listen to this very carefully. You're either fasting out of leading or legalism Drop this in the chat. You're either fasting out of leading or legalism If you are fasting out of legalism, that means something else is driving you If you're fasting out of leading, that means someone else is leading you Now we can be led by our pastor We can be led by the Holy Spirit and we can be led by You know, really those those two things God gives leaders in our churches. God, you know Is using me to lead you God is using your pastor to lead you and God is Through the Holy Spirit is leading us to a fast Now that's leading Being driven into a fast is very different. It's when somebody bullies you into it somebody scares you into it and somebody who threatens you into it or somebody who curses you or Says if you don't do it you are going to get cursed and that is extremely dangerous and that is wrong and That's what King Saul did is he drove people into a fast by fear Part of our fasting community in here We don't threaten people and we don't use words like if you don't fast, you know, this is what's going to happen to you I do believe that some people who are not obedient to the leading of the Lord could miss out on something that the Lord wants to do That is different than being driven beaten forced and Cursed if you don't fast Fasting is a volunteer. It's a voluntary Discipline it's not Commended in the sense of it's not required. We don't see specific requirements. How? We are encouraged too fast. We're just not told when and how In the sense of each person will be led to do one day three days seven days You know, whatever that is the Holy Spirit leads us and God appoints leaders to lead us And then we respond by a prompting in our heart saying I agree with that I want to do that. God gives us desires He gives us the will to do those things and we follow but please hear me loud and clear There are no curses attached to you not fasting What King Saul did was foolish for those of you who may be feared that if you you know Broke the fast you didn't finish the fast on time or anything while it is true That we want to develop a discipline and a habit of finishing strong and I want to inspire you to do that I also want you to have Grace to understand that this is not salvation issue this is not deal breaker if You don't go even to the end this again. I'm not trying to give license anybody to give in into your Cravings, but if you're feeling not good or you just can't take it anymore and stuff So there is no curse attached to not finishing the fast. There is no. Oh my gosh now everything's gonna go bad Absolutely not that is the furthest thing from the truth That is a legalistic way of looking at a discipline of fasting when you associate Not fasting with curses That's what King Saul pronounced and he was crazy. He was not right. This wasn't spirit filled. Okay So Therefore this should this grace and this freedom should motivate you to go forward and to go further Without giving up. We are not driven by fear. We are led by faith. Amen so if you feel guilty For giving up or wanting if you feel guilty for quitting or wanting to quit I'm just gonna give you a very powerful prophetic word. Stop it Stop it. Yeah, because there is no guilt associated There should be no guilt associated with quitting or stopping a fast Yes, Jonathan stopped it. He didn't even fast and God was still with Jonathan and there's no hint Where somehow God was displeased with him Now some of you may say Vlad you're giving us too much grace I feel like some people just gonna start quitting. First of all, this is what I know about people people are gonna quit no matter what Okay, plus I don't see one reference in the Bible where not being able to finish a fast Somehow brings God's judgment displeasure Okay, no parent in the right mind Will punish their child who's attempting to do something and they did the best they could and they just were not able to maybe Win the first place or we're not able to maybe You know hit that thing but they try their best no parent whatever do that nor will our God Again biblical fast has never been about this commandment or it's a law It's been more about a practice where we deny ourselves in pursuit of God And some of us have a lot of growing to do and we will grow into you know Doing a 40-day or 21 days and there are many of you God has given you grace and me sharing this word actually is Encouraging you to say hey, even if I do trip It's okay This is not me falling from purity into lust This is not me falling from walking in freedom to falling into demonization or torment This is me, you know falling on grass where I can get up, you know Clean up my knees and keep running and keep walking my encouragement to use that if you stop the fast Just resume restart it again next day Don't walk with this guilt don't walk with the shame and you will grow into I believe if you stay with this community This year you will grow and build this habit holy habit of fasting where you will become stronger And you will become better for those of you who quit and maybe you're like you you don't like me now on my live streams You're like man, I just I get reminded, you know for a I should have done I kind of should have continued please You're not driven by fear don't live in that fear don't live in that torment don't live in that guilt don't live in that shame Live in faith be led by the Lord you can still restart you can still resume, but even if you don't You know the God loves you You know that he is pleased with you if you are doing everything you can to walk in his will and Sometimes we get a little bit weak and you know, we are flesh Our body, you know has its own needs and demands and sometimes we have to respond to it and that is completely normal Okay, we're not talking about right now cravings of the flesh of some sinful things But we're talking about normal desires of the bodies that could not be neglected And for some people in the season that they are in because of the weakness of their own body They can do the best that they can and the rest of it is in God's hands and you know what?  He knows the limits of your body. He knows the situation at your work. He knows that so please Do not fall into the foolish fasting where you develop guilt where you develop shame and where you develop? Legalism and you impose on yourself rules God never created in his scripture And just because we are fasting and we're talking and encouraging other people to do it to do it They should not create unnecessary pressure that did not originate with the Holy Spirit with the scriptures or Should not originate with me Amen Somebody dropped that in a chat. God sees my sacrifice now. Let's go to number three. I spent a little bit more time on number two than on other ones number three and That is foolish fasting is selfish not spiritual So number one. We mentioned is that foolish fasting is Something that attempts to earn God's power number two. We mentioned that foolish fasting is driven by fear and Therefore it results in guilt number three foolish fasting is selfish not spiritual and we see that in verse 24 where Saul says this Let's look at this verse again where King Saul said this he said cursed is the man Who eats any food until the evening and I want you to see this before I? I what does that mean? King Saul says It's about me. I Want all of you to fast so that I Can defeat my enemies It's interesting No mention of God No mention of Israel no mention of his team his army You know why King Saul wanted everybody to fast so he Can have vengeance that is selfish that is wrong He wanted to exploit people He wanted to use people to accomplish his own ambition and drive them into starvation So that he He I Before I y'all cannot eat why because until I Take vengeance you guys are fasting so that I can take vengeance This is not about us And so that's why I want to encourage you that even if you're fasting for health reasons Realign your motives to spiritual reasons may your health experience benefits by may it not be the main reason why you fast That's why Isaiah 583 Goes deeper into this and says things like if you fast, but you ignore the poor if you fast But you are gossiping you exploiting people you have strife. You're not helping the needy Isaiah says honestly Like that's not really my fast Now if you are fasting and gossiping if you are fasting and you're not Sacrificial if you are fasting and you're not helping other people I Want you to continue to fast, but I want you to change your motive change your focus It's not selfish. It's spiritual Maybe you are fasting and you like man, you know, I gave birth to children Now I need to lose all that all that baby fat that I collected or maybe you're like man from Thanksgiving to Christmas I've really gained a lot of weight so I'm fasting and I'm persevering to really lose weight I can tell you one thing from experience is that fasting is the worst way to lose weight Now you lose all of that But then afterwards you're gonna get all of that back The only way to lose weight is to change how you eat and how you live Not just how you fast fasting can trigger a weight loss, but it will not be sustainable Until you change how you eat Therefore we should not use fasting for loss of weight. We should use fasting for spiritual reasons And we will reap benefits of our, you know, breaking the stronghold of obesity breaking the stronghold of gluttony But at the same time fasting is not going to be most effective way to lose weight unless You do it for spiritual reasons and after the fast You don't fill yourself with food right away and you start changing your diet slowly and Then you practice regular fasts during the year Not just one time but regular fast you will see improvement in your health But please hear me loud and clear fasting is not about health improvements I understand that every, you know, doctor on YouTube who talks about fasting mainly deals with health improvements But as Christians our purpose is not health. Our purpose is our holiness. It's our pursuit of the Lord humility and health benefits we reap as side effects as side benefits not as our primary objective Otherwise we might be fasting like Saul now in some degree you'll achieve maybe some results But the real purpose of fasting is not for physical results. It's for spiritual results. So The first foolish fasting is that he tried to get power from it or victory from it We said that victory doesn't come from fasting. It comes through fasting The second one is that he cursed people who wouldn't do it Which means the fasting is not supposed to be led by fear. It's supposed driven by fear supposed to be led by faith The third one is he wanted I take vengeance on my enemy. So it was very selfish in in purpose It was not spiritual in purpose. Let's go to number four the number four sign of foolish fasting is it ignores timing Ignores timing now. This is very practical Right now and some we need to listen very carefully to this Saul fasted King Saul fasted at the wrong time Which makes it foolish Okay, I want you to see what his son said in first Samuel chapter 14 and verse 39 29 I apologize verse 29. So his son Jonathan said the following But Jonathan said my father has troubled the land Look now How my continents had has brightened because I tasted a little bit of this honey How much better if the people had eaten freely today of the spoil of their enemies which they found For now would there be not much greater slaughter among Philistines Because if you read verse 31 it says this Now they had driven back the Philistines from that day from this city to this one so that people were very faint They should have not been fasting when they were fighting Physically this was the worst time to fast They're in the middle of the battle Soldiers who don't have strength are useless and King Saul being foolish Not wise Leads his army into a fast Again for selfish reasons so I can take vengeance curses them if they don't and What's really bad about it is the timing That's why one of the things that I mentioned concerning a 21-day water fast or 21-day fast at all Is that you have to consider your timing? For example, if you're pregnant if you're nursing if you're a child Okay, or if you have something right now going on in your life that absolutely is just not possible for you to fast Okay, please don't force it Please Don't be foolish about it Okay. Now many people when they know January is coming what they can do actually is they can prepare their timing Where they can start to kind of realign their schedules That's one of the things that I had to do is that coming into January I looked over and I said okay let me actually cancel my trips and That's not required some people do that while Traveling and I did that before but this time I was like, you know what no I'm gonna cancel my trip. So like this weekend. I was supposed to speak at the conference in California I think there's still a flyer with my face on it And you know, I excused myself and I really apologize, but I said I'm not gonna be able to To speak so that I can number one focus on leading this community and number two So I can focus on leading my church and I can focus on actually participating in the fast without kind of flying back and forth and trying to do too many things at the same time but legalistic foolish fasting ignores the timing the timing is Not everything but the timing matters of your fast You know, if you just gave birth to a child and maybe there's a pressure to fast, please ignore that pressure Focus on nursing your child If you're pregnant Don't It's not a time for you to fast, you know, or maybe you're dealing with with anorexia. You're fighting that thing It's not a time for you to fast, you know Or maybe you're dealing with some things and you're in a heavy medication. It's not a time for you to fast You know, don't don't go into this Ignoring your timing the timing that you're in right now because that is foolish That is not wise the Bible says to offer our body as a living sacrifice Okay, but what else it says in there as a living sacrifice and I'm going to open that verse right now Romans chapter 12 and verse one I Beseech you therefore brethren by the mercies of God that you present your bodies as a living sacrifice Holy acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service? I always tell people that Offer God a reasonable service not a radical service Offer God a reasonable service not a reckless service. Okay. God wants a reasonable service, you know, holy Living and acceptable to him. And so drop this in the chat. God wants us to offer reasonable service. He wants honestly a service that is reasonable The goal is not to get radical The goal is not to be reckless the goal is to be reasonable Holy living, which is your reasonable sacrifice, which is something that is wise Okay, if You can't fast more than you know two days without throwing up and all of this stuff There's no need to stress your body and trying to go for 21-day water fast Because you're ignoring the timing and your timing is that your body at this point cannot do that So you choose something that your body can and you run with it No matter if your husband fast different or your wife fast different like me and my wife We have a different way that we fast first of all, I'm a man in the house and I do have a Job that doesn't require, you know me to be on the road driving because otherwise I probably would be asleep or you know heavy physical job and so and and I carry the load But under no circumstances am I gonna come into my wife and impose exactly same kind of a fast when her body is Wired differently and she can't do water 21 days There are some wives they can do that and we have people on our team who actually Husbands and wives do it together. Absolutely no problem But before when they had children they were not able to do that And so to begin to fast when it's not your timing especially as a mother of Little children you have to be wise not reckless and not radical but reasonable Are you guys with me? Are you receiving something? Drop number one in the chat if this is blessing anybody number five So we mentioned already four things number five and this one is big because This is the effects of Wrong kind of a fasting and the effects is this is that if you do it the wrong way It will not lead to holiness Foolish fasting does not lead to holy living drop this in the chat Foolish fasting does not lead to holy living Look at what happened to Saul You know, he drives people into a fast Don't eat don't eat don't eat because I need to avenge my enemies curses anybody who's gonna eat and then Afterwards people start eating look at how they ate Then they told Saul Saying look the people are sinning against the Lord by eating with the blood So they went from not eating To eating in the way there was a sin before God There was no sin in eating But now they're eating in a way that offends God's law So this foolish fasting did not lead to holiness it did not lead to righteousness this foolish fasting did not lead to a holy habit and Sometimes, you know, I wonder if Many of us when we finish our fast if we are like Israelite Maybe we're not eating our food with blood But we are eating our food in gluttony and this typically happens for people to come out of a fast and starts stuffing themselves Trying to catch up for the last ten days seven days that they haven't eaten and literally croissants and Cinnamon rolls and meat and everything and we stuff ourselves and then find ourselves having diarrhea find ourselves sitting on the toilet Find ourselves repenting before God find ourselves in the emergency room and If you're fast is Not done right One of the side effects is that you will finish wrong you will come out of it wrong It will not lead to holy living afterwards fasting is good But if you exit the fast and you fall into gluttony, that's not good That means that this Sunday Monday as you begin to think about coming out you got to be very careful That you don't commit sins. Yes, gluttony is a sin overeating is a sin and you will sin against your body You will hurt your body And you're showing really to the Lord That I'm a glutton. I know I fasted for 20 days or 10 days or seven days, but Lord I'm addicted to food So you want to be very careful as you're going to be already think in your mind as you're gonna begin to come out that you are not falling into gluttony that you don't fall into Sinful eating wrong eating for some of you you broke the grip of sugar right now You broke the grip of caffeine or maybe you broke the grip of junk food. It will be very tempting To begin to entertain that again Some things that you broke the grip off during this fast. You should never return back to again Some certain foods you broke the grip off in your life You should never ever introduce them to your diet again like junk food Like drinking Pepsi or Cola or or drinking, you know these these drinks That not only make us overweight, but they put a lot of toxins in our body And then we begin to develop sicknesses that I didn't come from the devil, but it came from our own diet So it's very important that we make a decision right now that I'm going to exit slowly That I'm going to exit not eating my regular meals. Why because I don't want to fall into sin of gluttony I don't want to fall into into that thing because biblical fasting leads to holy living Foolish fasting will lead to Unholy living like in King Saul's case they all fast fast fast because all scared and now they're eating stuff with blood Which is a sin before God and again, I'm pretty sure you're not gonna be eating anything with blood But some of us are gonna be eating steak On the first day of the fast and that is wrong You're sinning against your body and I just want to speak to you right the way I want to put a fear of God inside of you that you don't Fall into gluttony exiting the fast and I'm not speaking this because I've always done it right I am a sinner saved by grace in this area. Okay, because there were times especially shorter fast what I've done that and I paid a Dear price. I've repented with tears and wailing guess where In the bathroom, I didn't even make it to the altar. Okay Holding on to my stomach and begging God to have mercy on me. So I don't die You know and and you think I would learn the lesson and stuff So I just want to share with you that you don't experience that and that I choose to slowly come out and not just Gorge myself and fill myself right away with that because that could be a way of honestly Exalting King stomach back to his enthroned place. Amen. So we will do a separate video on how to come out of the fast I'll share the things not to eat and things to eat And so we will do that most likely either on Saturday night or on Sunday afternoon, but for right now I'm gonna leave it at that. Are you guys ready for number six? So we've shared already five things. Let's review foolish fasting Seeks to have fasting as a source of power source of victory Foolish fasting is driven by fear. It's not led by faith foolish fasting ignores the timing and Foolish fasting is selfish not spiritual and now we mentioned foolish fasting leads doesn't lead to holy living and The last one the sixth one is this Foolish fasting is a show off instead of seeking God and This comes from Jesus rebuking the Pharisees when you fast do not be like hypocrites with sad faces They disfigure their faces so they can appear to be fasting to people in other words. It's a show off It's not so I can seek God. It's not so I can humble myself before God. It's so that I can show off so that I could really just Show off and that's really what foolish fasting is All right, so these are the six things that I wanted to share with you today and And give you just a small encouragement as well as direction in regards to Fasting amen if this was a blessing to you I want you to drop number one in the chat. This was an encouragement. Make sure that we share this with other people I believe this will be very impactful for a lot of people that will be watching and rewatching down the road I do want to take a moment right now and pray. I Want to pray for those people that are Sick and I want to pray for those people that are maybe facing Demonic attacks, we will have a digital deliverance this Saturday We will have a in-person deliverance this Sunday But I do believe that distance is not a barrier to God and for those of you that are fasting right now Let's just ask God Let's just allow the Holy Spirit to move right now and touch us as we are going to take a moment to pray Now what I would encourage you as well if you are having a testimony already from the fast You're noticing a breakthrough in your job in your career or maybe in Deliverance there is taking place or perhaps you already seeing a difference or maybe you've experienced healing during this fast Don't forget to send me your testimony past of lab. Orc forward slash Apologies hungry Jen that come forward slash testimony. I keep mixing those two websites And so we're gonna pray right now if you are sick in your body I want you to place your hand upon the part of your body where there is sickness and We're going to agree if you feel comfortable dropping in the chat of what you are believing About the fat about the Lord to do for you in the area of healing Let's begin to drop that in a chat We're gonna begin to pray for this and ask the Holy Spirit to come Lord. I thank you for your mercy Lord, I thank you for your grace Lord, I thank you for your power right now that is moving in this place in Jesus mighty name Dear Holy Spirit, we welcome you right now into this chat We welcome you right now into this live stream in Jesus mighty name precious Holy Spirit I ask you that you will come that you will bring healing right now in Jesus mighty name I'll rebuke every fibroid and I command it to come out of people's bodies right now in Jesus mighty name I come against every cyst right now that is lodged in the body in Jesus mighty name And I command it to come out in Jesus name I rebuke every arthritis in Jesus name and I commend that pain in the joints to leave their body right now in Jesus mighty name Spine be healed every spiny injury be healed right now in Jesus name Every pain in the shoulders be healed right now in Jesus mighty name all the hormonal issues right now I speak God's healing power to flow right now into that area in Jesus mighty name Holy Spirit come with your power right now. Holy Spirit come with your anointing right now in Jesus name I'll rebuke every deafness. I'll rebuke right now every blindness in Jesus mighty name Be healed in your eyes be healed in your ears in Jesus mighty name I come against every skin disease every eczema every rash Every fungus or anything that is developing on the skin. That's poisonous or cancerous in Jesus mighty name be healed in your skin in the mighty name of the Lord in the mighty name of the Lord Restore their skin Lord. I speak healing to liver right now I speak healing to kidneys in Jesus name kidney stones to dissolve right now in Jesus mighty name I'll rebuke every cancer in the blood leukemia be healed in Jesus name every cancer in the bones be healed in Jesus mighty name Every cancer in the brain. I commend that cancer to go by the power of the name of Jesus Christ every cancer Right now colon cancer be healed in Jesus mighty name Skin cancer be healed in the mighty name of Jesus Christ Holy Spirit come with your power right now. I speak healing to broken toes and feet in Jesus mighty name. I speak healing right now for Shortness of breath in the name of Jesus Christ every swollenness in Jesus name Bloated body. I commend that thing to begin to that bloatness to go away in the name of Jesus Christ I'll rebuke every PTSD. I'll rebuke right now every unclean spirit that is behind mental Mental attacks of anxiety chronic depression OCD in Jesus mighty name I speak God's word into your body right now. He sent his word and heal them Jesus release your word and heal your people Right now Right now in Jesus mighty name. Holy Spirit come Holy Spirit heal Schizophrenia right now restore in the name of Jesus Christ I'll rebuke every insomnia.  I Come against every spirit of bitterness. I Come against every spirit of resentment hatred unforgiveness violence Anger and murder in the name of Jesus. I commend you to come out of God's people right now Be free from every spirit of bitterness. I come against every spirit of rebellion stubbornness Anti-submissiveness in Jesus name.  Thank you Lord Thank you Holy Spirit. Thank you precious Jesus Thank you Jesus somebody dropped it in the chat. I receive If you're watching right now and you're experiencing something don't hesitate to share if you are rewatching this and you're experiencing something go to a Hungry gen that come forward slash testimony and let us know if healing is taking place if you're being delivered And if you are being set free we would really appreciate to hear that as the Lord is touching your body and touching your life The last thing that I wanted to share Quickly today is if you are watching this broadcast and this was a blessing to you I want to invite you to partner with this ministry. 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So amen so bless that and Somebody Brenda is saying how can I join your Saturday deliverance? so You have to go through the deliverance prayers on my school, which I think from my understanding that the A week before this they already cut off the line meaning that people can only go for the next one already So we do it every single month So go through that and then you should be able to receive an email with the next digital deliverance Or you can come to our in-person deliverance service, which happens this Sunday Amen, so I'm going to stay for about three more minutes and then I have to go and preach Somewhere else today. I can't wait to see you guys this Sunday both on live stream or on Our in-person service Alexander. 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Okay. Great. Okay. So, yeah. So, I'm going to start with a quick overview of Sixdoor and a demo, and then talk about one of our latest projects called Git Sign, which Billy over here has been working on, which is using Sixdoor to sign Git commits, and then just a little bit about what we're working on in the community. So, before we talk about Sixdoor, I just wanted to talk about signatures in general and kind of what signatures guarantee. So, the main purpose of a signature is to guarantee that software has not been changed since it was signed. So, if the verification comes out correct, we can be sure that the software has not been tampered with since the signature happened. We can also use signatures to know what producers a piece of software came from, and they can actually be used as points of validation in a larger pipeline. So, I think a lot of times we think about signatures as being signed by a maintainer and then verified by an end user, but you can also think about using signatures as part of a build pipeline, where maybe you can verify certain attestations along the build test. So, if signatures are so useful, then why isn't everyone verifying their software today? And the reason for this is that signing software is really hard. So, we have this key management kind of problem embedded into signing software traditionally where you would use like a private public key pair. So, the thing about having a private key pair as a maintainer is that keeping long-lived private keys is not easy. Safe is not easy. It kind of assumes that you're not going to lose them, and it also means that they're not going to get stolen. And so, it kind of puts a lot of the onus on the maintainer to keep their private keys safe. It also puts the bird on the maintainer to figure out how to distribute their public keys to end users, and then it also means that end users have to figure out how to verify software before they use it themselves. And this can kind of be really difficult to do, especially if you just want to run software and you don't want to think too hard about how to verify it first. Code signing certificates are an option if you don't want to manage public-private key pairs, but often you have to pay for these types of certificates, and that might not be an option for everyone, especially maybe like an open-source project. And so, that kind of puts us all in the position that this is fine talk where we just sort of sit there and it's too hard to get out of the fire, so we just accept it. And this is where Sigstore comes in. So, the good news is that you can use Sigstore today for signing your software, and you don't even actually have to manage keys if you don't want to. So, how does this work? So, part of my drawing skills, you can tell I'm a really good artist because I have to label every single thing. But as a maintainer, the nice thing with Sigstore is all you need is your software that maybe you've already compiled and Cosign, which is our CLI tool used for signing and verifying software. So, you can see the maintainer doesn't have any public or private keys on them, just the CLI tool and their software. So, what do they do with this? So, with Cosign, you can run a simple Cosign sign and sign any sort of software that you have. And under the hood, Cosign is going to use the OpenID Connect protocol to verify your identity. So, it's going to basically take you to this page in your browser, log in to Sigstore, where you're going to log in with your email address. And we support a lot of the big providers like GitHub, Google and Microsoft. You basically will log in with your email and Cosign will retrieve the identity token associated with this protocol. And that's basically how you prove who you are by signing in with your email address. This is where one of the core Sigstore services comes into play. So, this service is called Foolsio, our code signing certificate authority. Foolsio is completely free and accessible to use for the public. And what Cosign is going to do is it's actually going to request a certificate from the Foolsio certificate authority. Foolsio is going to verify that identity token and then embed the associated email address in the certificate. So, you know that the certificate has been issued to this particular email address. Under the hood, Cosign is also going to generate an ephemeral public-private key pair. It's going to use the private key to sign the software and then that public key will also be embedded in the certificate. The ephemeral key pair actually just always lives in memory, never hits disk. So, we kind of call this keyless signing with keyless in quotations because while there is a key pair, you really don't have to think about it or worry about it. It all sort of happens under the hood and then disappears once the signing is done. So, at this point, we kind of, with Foolsio, we kind of have removed the need for public-private keys and we're just using these free code signing certificates instead. And then this is where the final core Sigstore service comes into play. So, we have free core, which is append-only immutable transparency log. So, once you add entries into the transparency log, they can't be changed and they're there forever and they're completely publicly accessible. So, anyone can kind of look in and see what's in an entry, get all the information about it. So, what Cosin will do once it's got the signature and the certificate is store both of those things as an entry in the transparency log. And this is kind of how we solve the key distribution problem that I was talking about earlier. So, instead of the maintainer having to figure out how do I get my public keys to my end users, they're just going to store the signature and certificate in the log, which is publicly available for everyone. It's basically a centralized place to find this information that we need. So, signatures are great, but it's not really useful unless we actually verify them. You could sign everything in the world, but it's not really going to matter if nobody is doing anything about it. And so, as an end user, end user is different because they're wearing a hat. As an end user, really easily you just need Cosi and you need that software and you can do your verification. So, under the hood, Cosin's going to retrieve that entry from the transparency log, verify the signature against the public key that was embedded in the certificate, make sure that the signature happened while the certificate was still valid, and it'll print out a nice, like, verified, okay, if everything works out. And so, basically, the only thing the end user really has to do is take a look at the identity embedded in the certificate and decide if they trust it. So, yeah, simplifies a lot of this process. So, signing with Cosin is pretty easy. I've got some of the sample commands here. So, you can sign images, anything that lives in an OCI registry. There's also support for signing arbitrary files or blobs, and then specific support for signing attestations and S-bombs. So, if you have an attestation or an S-bomb, especially associated with an OCI image, you can actually sign it and Cosin will upload it to your OCI registry where it'll live alongside the image. Verifying pretty much exactly the same, but with verification as an end user, run verify for images, verify blob for blobs, and verify attestation for attestations and S-bombs. And then we actually have a six-door policy controller as well. So, this will basically, the policy controller is basically a Kubernetes admission webhook which you can run in your cluster and supports Q and Rego policy definitions. So, with this you can basically say, I only want to accept images into my cluster that have been signed or have been signed by this particular identity or images that come with an attestation. So, this is basically like the verification piece for Kubernetes. So, I'll do a quick demo. Hopefully this works. Just a siding like an image that I've already pushed to my own registry. So, at the moment the key list in quotation, signing flow is still experimental. So, I'm going to set this experimental flag. And if you don't want to rely on experimental features at the moment, you can totally just bring your own public-private key pair as you normally would or use like a key KMS system. But I am just going to run cosine side and then sign my image. You get this little warning that your email address will be stored in a public transparency log so everyone will be able to see it. And I'm just going to sign in with my email. Now, under the hood, Cosens can do everything that I just showed in my amazing artwork. It's going to request a certificate from full CO and then store an entry in the log. So, you can actually take a look at this entry. And we should be able to see the base. So, this is the base 64 encoded certificate that was issued and the signature as well. So, say I have an attestation as well that basically gives some information about how this image was built. So, I have this custom Solacea Providence attestation. It's not super helpful. I built the image with Docker. But with Cosens, we can actually sign this attestation and then store it alongside the image. So, it's pretty easy. Co-sign a test. I'm going to pass in the name of my image, pass in the attestation, and then say that it's an attestation of type Solacea Providence. And we're going to go through the same flow. So, we have signed our attestation, stored an entry in the transparency log, and now everything is kind of available for people to verify. So, as an end user, I should have brought a hat. I could have put it on now. Thank you. Thank you. As an end user, all I have to do is just co-sign verify. Pass in the name of the image, and it'll grab the entry from the transparency log, do all the verification, make sure the certificate is valid, and you can see that the certificate has been issued to me. So, at this point, I just have to decide if Priya at chengar.dev is trustworthy. I guess that'll be a fun exercise for all of you later. And then we can also verify the attestation with the verify attestation command. I'm going to remember to pipe this one, so it looks a little prettier. And, yeah, it looks like it checked out. A similar really certificate subject is me. It's issued by Google. So, quick demo of how you can really easily sign and verify things with co-sign. Cool. So, yeah, don't keep track of your private key. Keep track of your email password instead. So, okay, I'm going to move on to one of our newest projects in the 6-door ecosystem, which is called GitSign. So, you can use GitSign to sign your Git commits using that same keyless signing flow that we just saw with 6-door. Once configured, you can either choose to sign certain commits, or you can set it up to sign commits by default. And it's really cool because you can basically have this additional guarantee that the person who actually wrote the code also owns the email address that was signed off with. Philly, who has been working on this project, I stole this little screenshot of his commit. So, at the moment, there are a couple of limitations with GitSign. The 6-door CA route is not in the GitHub Trust route, so the commits still kind of show up as unverified. But hopefully that will be worked on in the future. And at the moment, anyone with access to the commit can still do the verification and make sure that the commit was, and see what email a commit was actually signed with. Another quick demo of this. So, I have a little repo. I'll just add in a little file that we can add. And I'm going to sign it, or commit it, sorry. And we go through the same flow. I'll sign in with my email. And we're good. The commit is done. So, if I wanted to actually see the signature on this commit now, I can do this command. And under the hood, GitSign is going to grab their relevant entry from the transparency log. Say that the certificate was issued by 6-door, that it was made by me, pre-chainguard.dev, and it'll just verify everything. We can actually take a look at the certificate, too, which I have stored somewhere in here, because I can never remember this command. And certificate is pretty much what you would expect. The subject is me, issued by Google, by 6-door, and valid for about 10 minutes, so I can do that. Yeah. We can actually do the verification ourselves with Cosign Verify Blob as well. So, I can grab the required entry from Recor, print it out, and we can see what's in it. So it's kind of the same thing as what we saw before, the encoded certificate and the associated signature. If we pull the signature and the certificate out, we can use Cosign Verify Blob to actually verify the commit shot here. So we're going to pass in the certificate, the signature, and then the commit shot, and this should hopefully verify. Yeah. And so it looks like it all worked out, and we know that the commit was signed by me. So, wrapping up, I just wanted to talk a little bit about what I and a bunch of people in this room have been working on 6-door GA. We're working on general availability for the core 6-door services, so it's a lot of work to do, but it's moving along really well. And some cool things that'll come with 6-door GA. The keyless signing, which I just demoed, will no longer be experimental, so you won't have to set that experimental flag anymore. We'll have to find SLAs for core 6-door services and increased reliability. So, something to look forward to in the coming months. Thank you, everyone. If you're interested in 6-door at all or in GA, there's any meeting which happens every Tuesday. Yeah. Thank you so much.


From our studios, in the heart of Silicon Valley, Palo Alto, California, this is a CUBE Conversation. Welcome to the CUBE studios for another CUBE Conversation, where we go in-depth with thought leaders driving business outcomes with technology. I'm your host, Peter Burris. Every enterprise that is trying to do digital transformation finds themselves facing two challenges. One, their digital assets themselves are a source of value and two other assets that are sources of value are becoming increasingly digitized. And that creates a lot of challenges, a lot of security concerns that bad agents out in the internet are exploiting and requires a programmatic fundamental response to try to ensure that the digital assets or digitized assets aren't mucked with by bad guys. So to have that conversation, we're here with Tony Gian Domenico. Tony's a senior security strategist and a researcher and a CTI lead at Fortnett. Tony, welcome back to the CUBE. Hey, Peter, it's great to be here, man. So it's good to see you. Yeah, well, we've been doing this for a couple of years now, Tony. And so let's get, just kick it off. What's new? Ah, so what's new? Should we start talking a little bit about the index here, what we saw with the overall threat landscape? Sure. Cool, cool. So, you know, like we always do, we always like to start off with an overall threat landscape, at least to give an overview of what that index looks like. And it really consists of malware, botnets, application exploits, and what we looked at over the quarter, there was a lot of volatility throughout the quarter, but at the end of the day, it ended up only 1% higher than the quarter before. Now, some of that volatility really is being driven by what we've talked about a lot of times, Peter, in a lot of these other episodes, is that swarm-like activity, whenever an actual vulnerability is successfully exploited by an adversary, everybody swarms in on that vulnerability. In our Fort Agar Labs, you see that really like super spike up. A great example of that would be in last year, in December, ThinkPHP, which is an application that's a framework to rapidly develop web apps. They had a vulnerability that if you successfully exploited it, it would give you remote access or, I'm sorry, remote code execution, and they were exploiting that, and we definitely see in a huge uptake. Now, that wasn't the only one for the quarter, but that, and along with some of the other ones, is really what's kind of driving that volume. So the index has been around for a few quarters now, and it's a phenomenal way for folks out there to observe how overall trends are evolving. But as you said, one of the key things that's being discovered is that, or you're discovering as you do this research, is this notion of swarming. It seems as though there ought to be a couple of reasons why that's the case, Tony. It's, we've talked about this in the past. There's folks who want to get a little bit more creative in creating bad stuff, and there's other folks who just want to keep their costs low and just leverage what's out there. Which approach are the bad guys tend to using more, and, or is there an approach, one or the other approach is more targeted to one or another kind of attack? Well, it's funny, you usually see the folks in the cyber crime ecosystem that are really focusing on identifying, not so much where they're doing more sort of targeted attacks. It's more of a, you know, pray and spray, you know, type of thing. And you see a lot of that, you know, anytime the canary can get into a life of cyber crime, right, and they'll leverage some of these common, you know, you know, services, you have code reuse, you know, which is out there. So you have that sort of like group there, right?  So you have those, you know, those two groups, I would say.  We've been talking about this for years in the cybersecurity industry. It's living off the land, right? Where once a victim is on the actual machine itself, they start leveraging some of the tools that are already available there. And usually these tools, they're administration tools to be able to administer the actual network. But these tools can also be used in the farthest ways. From example here would be, you know, PowerShell. That, you know, a lot of admins use PowerShell for efficiencies on the network. But that also can be used in the farthest ways and the bad guys are using that. And then this past quarter, you know, we did see a lot of PowerShell activity. Now, you know, Peter, having said that though, I think as a whole with the security community, we're getting better at being able to identify these types of PowerShell attacks. One, we got better technology on the endpoint. And I think two, Microsoft has done a better job of being able to provide us more hardening capabilities for PowerShell, like being able to restrict access to PowerShell, as well as giving us better logging capability to be able to identify that malicious activity. So we are getting better. And the bad guys know this. So I think what we can probably look for in the future is them leveraging either a different interface or a different language. Because all they really need to do is interface with that .NET framework, which is part of a Windows system, and they can start doing the same exact things they were doing with PowerShell. And we're seeing that in the open source community now, things like Silent Trinity, the open source tool that allows you to do those same things. So if we're seeing an open source, pretty much guarantee we're going to see it out there in a while here soon. So we've got a group of bad actors that are using this living off the land approach to leverage technology that's out there. And we've still got kind of the big guys having to worry about being targeted because that's how you make a lot of money if you're successful. But it certainly does sound is that a general business practice for a lot of these guys is to leverage common infrastructure. And that this common infrastructure is increasingly becoming better understood. Have I got that right? No, no, Peter, you're spot on here. What we did, we did some exploratory research in this last quarter. And what we found out is with the exploits within that quarter or the actual threats, 60% of those threats are using the same infrastructure. What I mean by infrastructure, I mean, things like infrastructure to download malware, maybe to redirect you to some other site that then downloads malware. And that makes a lot of sense, Peter. You know why? Because in this cyber crime ecosystem, if you didn't realize this, it's a vicious competitive market. Everybody is trying to sell their wares and they want to make sure that their service is the best. It's better than someone else's. And they want to make sure that it's stable. So they find these community infrastructures that are tried and true. Some of them are from bulletproof hosting services, things of that nature. So you see a lot of the folks in a cyber crime ecosystem using them. Now on the flip side though, you definitely see some of the threat actors that are more sort of the advanced threat actors. Maybe what they want to do is hide a little bit. So they'll hide in that larger community to be able to possibly be able to bypass that attribution back to them.  So if they can blend in, a lot harder to find them. So they can use what is available, but at the same time differentiate themselves in this bad actor ecosystem to take on even more challenging to potentially lucrative exploits. Now, Tony, if we know something about this common infrastructure, as you said, 60% of these attacks are using this common infrastructure, that suggests we can bring a common set of analysis frameworks to bear as we consider who these actors are and what their practices are. Have I got that right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. If you can align your playbook defenses with the offensive actual playbooks that the threat actors are using, the better off you're going to be, right? Because then you can be able to combat them a lot better. And as a matter of fact, I mean, we've kind of introduced this sort of concept in conjunction with our partnership with the Cyber Threat Alliance. We're actually producing these threat actor playbooks. And what we're doing is the idea behind this is if we can identify the malicious activity that threat actors are actually doing to complete their cyber mission, expose some of them tactics, those techniques, those procedures, we could possibly disrupt some of that malicious activity. And this past quarter here, we focused on a group, Peter called the Silence Group. And they're really focused on identifying and stealing financial data. They're looking at banks, banking infrastructure and ATM machines. And you'll get a kick out of this. With the ATM machines, they're doing something called jackpotting where they, if they can find the actual software behind the ATM machine, find that ATM process, they can inject a malicious DLL into that process, giving them total control over the ATM machine. And now they can dispense money at will and they can have these money mules on the other side receive that actual money. So, you know, we have a lot of different campaigns and playbooks that we've identified on our website. And that, once we understand that, we align that with our security fabric and ensure that our customers are protected against that particular playbook. Tony, I'm not happy to hear that. So this is my distressed face that I use during these types of interviews. But if we're able to look at how bad guy playbooks are operating, then we ought to be able to say, and what are those fundamentals that a shop should be using, a security professionals should be using that are just so basic and so consistent. And it seems that you guys have identified three to do a better job of taking a fabric approach that starts to weave together all assets into a more common security framework. Two, to do a better job of micro and macro segmentation so that you can identify where problems are and then finally increase your overall use of automation with AI and ML. How is this translating into your working with customers as they try to look at these playbooks and apply their own playbooks or how they set up their response regimes? Yeah, so I mean, I think overall, I mean, I think you kind of hit it on the head, Peter, you kind of nailed down really those kind of fundamental sort of concepts here. Now, you can identify and you can document as many playbooks as you want, but if you're not able to quickly respond when you identify those actual playbooks, that's really half the battle. I mean, if you need to be able to identify one, not only when the threat actor's in your environment, but then also you need to be able to quickly take action. And like you were saying, with that fabric, if we can have that actual fabric being able to talk to the other controls within that fabric and take some action, they're better off you're going to be because you can align your defenses there and that's great. But you got to make sure that all the controls within that fabric are all communicating together, they're working together, they're sharing information and they're responding together. Sure enough, are you starting to advise customers, I'm curious, you're advising customers that even as they increase the capabilities of their fabric and how they handle their architectures from a micro-macro segmentation and increase their use of automation, are there things that they can do from a practice standpoint just to ensure that their responses are appropriate, fast and accurate? Yeah, sure, sure. I mean, I think a lot of the actual fabric, once you actually build that fabric, there's certain playbook responses that you can program into that fabric. And it'll also even go, I know we talked about fundamentals, but I'll even dive a little bit lower here. You have that fabric, but you also have to make sure you understand all the assets you have in your environment because that information and that knowledge helps you with that macro and micro segmentation because when you can isolate the different areas, if there is a certain area that gets infected, you can quickly turn the knobs to isolate that particular threat in that specific area or that specific segmented area. And that is really going to allow you to fight through the attack, give you more time and ultimately reduce the impact of that particular breach.  That means more vacations, which is just less activity, but then we got summer interns coming in, which may involve additional clicking on things that shouldn't be clicked on. Any ideas, what should security pros be thinking about in the summer months? What's the trend show? Well, I think we're going to continue to see that I think the same type of threats that we've seen in the first quarter, but I would say, there may be a slight sort of drop off, right? We got kind of kids that are going to be out on vacations, so schools may not see as much activity. You got folks who are going to be taking vacations and at the end of the day, most of these exploits are client side exploits, which means a lot of times you need somebody to do something on the actual computer, either clicking that link or clicking that attachment. And if they're not there to do that, they'll just sit there and you'll see less activity over time. So we might see a little reduction in volume, but I still think we'll see very similar types of threats in the coming months. So good time or good opportunity for security pros to double down on putting in place new architecture practices and response regimes so that when stuff kicks up in the fall, they're that much more prepared. Absolutely. Tony Gian Domenico, Fortnette. Great, you got it. Once again, thanks very much for being on theCUBE. Hey, Peter, it's always a pleasure being here, man. Hope to see you again soon. You will. And once again, I'm Peter Burris. Until next time.


The Belmarsh Tribunal has come to Sydney almost four years into Julian's arbitrary detention, arbitrary imprisonment in Belmarsh High Security Prison in southeast London. Julian was arrested on the 11th of April 2019 and every day since then he has been in a cell in this horrible place alongside actual criminals and convicts and dangerous individuals and he's there not because he is serving any sentence. He is not a prisoner at all formally. He is there on remand while the United States seeks his extradition. You've heard today a lot of detail about what the U.S. is actually accusing him of, which is journalism, which is doing the right thing, which is trying to get states to follow their own rules and actually obey the law. Julian's work has been an indictment of how the United States and its allies have conducted themselves during the wars, the illegal wars in Iraq and the illegal detention of detainees in Guantanamo Bay and the U.S. interference, for example, in Spain and Germany and Italy in their attempts to put U.S. citizens on trial for kidnapping and torturing European citizens on European soil and derailing those attempts. So Julian has stood up for the enforcement of the international legal conventions that Australia has signed up to, that the United States has sometimes signed up to, as you know, the U.S. has not signed up to the Convention Against Torture, amongst others, and Julian's work and his motivation has been to strengthen democracy and to strengthen the citizens' right to know information that matters for democracy and to hold abusers to account. And it is those abusers who have abused the legal system to keep Julian imprisoned indefinitely, keep Julian imprisoned in the worst possible conditions in the United Kingdom, and bury him alive in the United States if he gets extradited there. Our youngest child has now turned four, and Julian will have spent four years in Belmarsh Prison on the 11th of April 2023. And as time goes by, you have these anniversaries, they come and go, and for some it's just a number, but for us it's our lives, it's our past, it's our present, and every day that passes it's our future. Julian's day-to-day existence is made tolerable through his contact with the outside world, a contact that would be impossible if he were extradited, and a contact that even in its minimal form is a lifeline. There is no pretense that what is happening here is a legal process, a legitimate process. This is a political case. This is the CIA director, the secretary of state, putting pressure on the DOJ to extradite Julian. It is not his place, but he admits it himself. There's just no question that this case has political origins, that it is a criminal endeavor by the Trump administration now pursued or continued by the Biden administration. And so I think it's no longer a question about whether Julian should sign a trial, whether he should be free, but how he should be free and when he should be free in the eyes of those in power. And the answer is right now, right now, and how, well, whatever it takes, because Australia is the most important ally to the United States. It is more important than Israel in the Middle East, it is more important than the United Kingdom, it is the most important ally because of China. And Australia has the power to bring Julian home. The Prime Minister, more than anyone, holds Julian's fate in his hands. And so I ask the Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, to take Julian's fate in his hands and bring him home to us, bring him home to our kids, bring him home to me and end his suffering.


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Welcome, please be seated, as we'll be about to get underway. Well, a very warm welcome to you all, whether you're joining us here in Manchester in person or online. I am so privileged to be the first to get to welcome you to our 2022 annual conference.  We are very privileged to have a co-chair team of 10 this year to get this very special conference underway. And I hope you still remember how to give a warm welcome. So please put your hands together and welcome our co-chair team. And for those of you who've seen me last three years ago, it's been a while. A co-chair team of 10 this year to get this very special conference underway. And I hope you still remember how to give a warm welcome. So please put your hands together and welcome our co-chair team. All conference can pass it to someone who can be here in person. Thank you, Snag. Thanks to our co-chair. And I'm also being a friend and teacher at the University of Ireland's Nylans. I'll be cheering part two of the opening of January for today. I'll ask my fellow members. And I hope you still remember how to give a warm welcome. So please put your hands together and welcome our co-chair team. All conference can pass it to someone who can be here in person. Eich llwyl wedi bod yn yn ôl, iawn i'n dda, yma i'n raddniadon y tiynau. Mae'r raiachtrach yn ei taeth, mae'r ffordd hwn yn rhanoedd ei gaorthodd. Mae'r ffordd hwn yn yn iawn i'n rhan o'i bwysigol. Mae'r raiachtrach yn ei ffordd hwn yn ei wneud, mae'r raiachtrach yn ei wneud. Mae'r grannig yn ychydig i gaeloshindeiru. Mae'r raiachtrach yn eu hunol i'a chyrwstef coin. Mae'r raiachtrach yn y glithaf dyn nhw i gydigio ar y cael uchydig emerging leadership for a new strategic vision. We felt this was particularly important. Colleagues who are learning technologists or who have responsibilities for the use of technology in learning and teaching have really come to the fore over the last two to three years. And those colleagues have shown really strong creative innovative leadership in how institutions respond to the crisis that we've been going through. And what we've began to see in this context is many colleagues becoming leaders essentially without authority and that's a really kind of big issue that we need to start grappling with within our sector so we can harness that expertise, that experience and the leadership that's emerged over the last couple of years. Developing digital fluency, again many sessions covering different dimensions of this and amplifying further education. And we're particularly pleased to see such good representation in speakers and delegates from our colleagues in the FE part of the sector. A couple of facts and figures. We have 450 delegates taking part in this year's conference. 300 in hybrid mode, several obviously of you here today and lots of colleagues joining exclusively online and from the UK and more than 20 other countries. So it really does start to feel like we're kind of coming back together in different ways for different purposes coming out of the last couple of years. So it's really exciting to have such a really good and strong representation of a community within the all conference this year. We mentioned our sponsors and gave thanks to our sponsors at the opening part of the plenary this morning. This is part two of that plenary. But we want to note and thank all our exhibitors and partners. Please take time to go and visit them, hear what they've been working on, speak to them about the potential things you could work with them on in your own contexts. And we are particularly grateful to Vivox who we'll hear from in a few minutes time. We've mentioned our colleagues from the FE part of the sector. We've also got many colleagues participating from the school sector as well. And I think this really goes down the line, the nature of using technology effectively in learning and teaching. It's not the reserve of HE or FE or schools, even community education, it's a joint project and it's something we have to engage in collaboratively to take forward. We are also very pleased to have a number of scholars, all scholars this year's conference, around about 25 scholars who are here with us and being supported and engaged in the conference. So wherever you are, welcome, very warm welcome. We probably don't need to say too much about this. We have mentioned that we're in kind of still strange and changed times. So just be mindful and respectful of each other's kind of spaces. We're in a big auditorium. If you feel that you want a bit of space to sit on your own, feel free to do that. Just follow the guidance that's being provided within the venue around sanitation and also just looking after yourselves and one another. So please just keep that in mind. And now, without any further delay, we're going to welcome Joe from VVox, who's going to take us through some of the audience participation that we'll be facilitating for this part of the plenary. And then we'll hear from our speakers. So Joe, over to you. Cool. Yeah, thank you very much. And yeah, thank you very much for having us here. And it's such a privilege to be a sponsor and to join you this year. It's so nice to see people face to face. We haven't seen you guys for a couple of years now when we haven't been able to do these things face to face. So it's brilliant. When I was given an opportunity to come and speak for five, ten minutes in this passing session, I started to think about what to talk about. I was looking back over some of our previous times with you guys. And I realised actually, it was about five years ago that we first partnered with you. So yeah, I wanted to reflect on that a little bit. And then, as Keith said, I want to introduce VVox as a piece of technology. We're going to be using it as part of the conference today. I'm hoping to have a little bit of fun with that. So, as I say, we're down in the exhibition space. We're on stand 12, so do come along and say hello. We'd love to see you guys again as it's been a while. So yeah, as I say, I was looking back to when we first sponsored and first worked with ALT. And when I look back at what the VVox product was back then, it was a student response system used for live polling and Q&A. And it's super simple, easy to use, engagement app by students. We had a really small but loyal support of customer base based in the UK at that time. And one of the things that we decided on really quickly is that we wanted to offer fair pricing that was based on active users. That's what we wanted to base that on. We had a real focus on our customer success team. And that was us in 2017, and we also had a different name. So yeah, we've also gone for a rebrand since then. So where's VVox now? Well, we're still leading with our customer success and that fair, honest pricing that's based on active users. But we're now working with over 50 UK and Irish universities. And when I think back to where we were then, that seems incredible. The product continues to evolve. We work in partnership with all of our customers to continually evolve and improve that. And I'm really proud that we're one of the, well, we are the top rated audience engagement app on Trustpilot, G2 and Caterrow. So it's lovely when we get that, when we get that affirmation and feedback. So what does the future look like? What are we looking to do as we continue to move past this year? Well, we're looking to continue to build the best in class student engagement app with features designed for you and by you. We want to support and expand all of our existing integrations with VVox. And we want to start seeing our customers face to face again. Like today, like going out and seeing our customers when we provide training and support. That's something we really miss and we're looking forward to doing more of this year. So, as I said, this session, well, the whole event is interactive and you are able to use VVox as part of this, as part of ALT-C, primarily for Q&A but also for polling. And I wanted to do some word cloud polls of you guys now. So there's some joining instructions on the screen now. We've got them on the side windows as well. There's also some joining instructions that I think have been laid out for you. So if you just open up a web browser, go to VVox.app. You can enter in the session ID there, which is 113812368. Alternatively, you can scan the QR code and that will take you straight into the session. So I'll give you guys a second just to do that. But the joining instructions will stay on the side there. And I can see some Q&A messages have already come in. So at least some of you are getting in. OK, so let's launch the first poll then please. So the first question I wanted to ask is, what is something that you have achieved for the first time since we last met face to face? That was back in 2019. Is there something that you've done or achieved for the very first time? And you can enter in multiple answers. You can enter in short sentences. A few of those coming in now. So we'll leave that open and let's see them coming in. New job, very big. A couple more than one person at least has got a new job since we last met. A few I can see first time is quite large. We've got some people here for the very first time, which is brilliant. Actually a few of our team are here for the first time as well. New job, first time. That's still the biggest ones. Definitely need to get an eye test to see if any of the other ones over there. Okay, that's amazing. Let's close that one now. Sorry if you haven't had a chance to enter into that. We've got one more though that I want to run. That's okay. So this one, what do you think is the main difference to the teaching experience from 2019 to now? What do you think is the main difference please? Then hopefully we'll be able to see those results coming in in real time. There we go. Hybrid, more online. Uncertainty is quite big. I think that's reflective of some of the conversations that I'm having with our customers. Still a little bit uncertain. Hybrid's really big. Flexibility. Zoom up there. Accessibility. Nice and big. Okay, awesome. Okay, let's close that now. Thank you very much for sharing those. That's really nice visual to see. Cool, okay. So another thing that I just wanted to share with you guys is you will have noticed up on your seats we put some joining instructions for joining the VBOT session, but on the back of that you will find an ALT crossword. So opportunity for you guys to complete that over the course of the day or quicker if you want. Just a little bit of fun, but we are running a little bit of a competition. So if you want to bring that completed crossword, either to our stand in person, or if you're joining us online, you can complete it and send us a picture. So yeah, either bring your completed crossword to our stand, collect a prize, or if you are joining us online, take a photo of your completed crossword, emaileducationatvvots.com. And if you want us to send you a prize, great to have a suitable address that we can just post your prize to. And yeah, if you want to share that on social media, a couple of hashtags there that you can use. So just to get you started, just wanted to give you a clue for one of the crossword answers. So the clue that I'm going to give you is for free down, and the clue is that this actor has starred in the title role in Doctor Strange. So there you go to get me started. Excellent, and that's it. So I'm going to hand back over to Keith. It's really lovely to see you guys again. Please do come and chat to us on our stand. And yeah, have a great conference. Thanks, Joe. So yeah, Joe, thank you very much. Good to see how that works in practice. I'm wondering how many colleagues were used to Twitter where finding those 20 characters just that bit too constraining, I'm not sure. But thank you very much indeed. And thank you to all of the audience and to all of the companies and colleagues over the next couple of days. So, well, now I move on to the main part of part two of Replenary. Earlier today you heard from Elizabeth, Bella, and Peter sharing some of their views and experiences. We want to go a little bit further and kind of drill down into other perspectives and views that will hopefully set the scene ydych chi'n gweithio ar y dyfodol. Mae'r ffocus yma yn ymddangos ar y cyfnodau, i wneud y gallu bod yn ymdweithio. Felly mae'n gweithio'n gweithio ar y Natoli i'r Llywodraeth, a'r Purun Wong i gweithio'r prifysgol. Mae'n cael ei gweithio ar gyfer y pethau. Mae'n cael ei gweithio ar 5 gweithio ar gyfer y cyfnodau. Mae'n cael ei gweithio ar gyfer y cyfnodau, ac mae'n gweithio'n gweithio ar y cyfnodau ac yn cyddingo i'r rydwun i ddechrau i ddim yn ddiddordeb y chahanolau. Rhaid i chi wedi'w gweld, naethau chi'n cael ei wneud, ac mae gennychodd llwyddiol ar ôl. Ddod am gyfaint. Felly roi'r cymdeithas chefio. Mae'r rhobeith eu bod yn cydweithio. mae'r ddaen i'r gondol yn ymdredig yn oed dod o'r cyflodio. Mae'n nadw'r gael ei bobl yn i ddim yn ymdredig. Rydyn ni'n ddifo dda'i fod yn y bwysig a'i gallu'n meddwl i ddech chi'n rhai syfwng cydbalanced. Rydym chi'n i ddod yn gweithio hynny'r bwysig, a'r adferio ati sydd wedi'u panfith, na'r ffordd bydderwydiau, sy'ngym Allahuch yn ddod yn ei weld, a drwy adroddiadol i'r meddwl i'r meddwl i'r meddwl. Rydyn ni'n ddade du bod yn ddod yn rhan o'vod yn ddau'r perdd dechrau'r rydyn ni'n amlwyno gweld ar y fourfront yw'r cyfrifiad brys ymddangos i ymddiwyr ymddangos ymddangos ymddiwyr? Dwi'n credu ffordd i hynny'n rhoi ar gyfer ynglyn â ddysgu, ond rydw i ddau cyfrifiad bryd i'n credu ffordd i hynny'n rhoi'r cyfrifiad. Felly, mae'r cyfrifiadau wedi'u gydag y byddwn yn ysgolwyddiad o hynny o'r team ar y Dundee, mae'n ymddangos i gydag i'r hofion i ddweud o'r cyfrifiad i ddweud hon i i gydag yma. that things going through my head is that strangler song, no more heroes anymore. Because I think what I'm saying is that we've had a voice, we've put all hands to the pump, we did some great fantastic work and now there's a sense in which there's a fear that we're kind of retreating back to that practice pre-COVID, and I think that was picked up this morning by Peter and Elizabeth and Bella as well. Yn ystod, mae'n mynd i'r ddweud bod y byddai cywethaf a Peta wedi bod yn ddweud yr ysgol ymddangos yn yw'r erbyn yn y bwrdd yng Nghymru, a'r hyn yn amlwg o'r ddiweddau ym mhobl a'r ddweud. Yn ymddangos, mae'n cyfrifio'r ddefnyddol, mae'n meddwl â'r ddweud, ac yn mynd i'n ddigwelio'n gallu ddwyliadau, ac yn mynd i ddweud, ac mae'n meddwl â'r ddweud, ond mae'n meddwl â'r ddweud, Felly, fel cyforydwyr Cymru gwylq wedi'i gyddon nhw unrhyw ffordd, ac mae gyddo'n cael eu bod yna'n agmar Spinol. A wna daeth y cyfeirio, mae ddim yn gwneud bod y cerddurau gyda un yma, gyda'r cyfrifledd ar gyfer gwahoddd, ac mae'n gyddon ni'n cerddurio i'r cyfrifledd ac mae'n gweithio ar y cerddurio i chi. A oedd i'n cyfrifledd ar gael gwahoddd, ac mae'r cyfrifledd ar gyfer gwahodd i chi'ch gwneud fel roi'r cyfrifleddau byddai gyrddgau. I'm really conscious about the sort of this idea about leadership, many of us have been thrust into more leadership roles and were involved in various things but also there's a sense in which some of that's also been taken away from us. So how do we collectively, as a community, actually shape that leadership moving forward? How do we become a collective voice that shapes the future? And I think it's also quite interesting that we work in different contexts and Bella was mentioning this morning how some institutions have got increased funding and increased resource. The reality for many of us that in our organisations actually we've got less resource. So we talk about digital poverty with our students but there's a kind of disparity and maybe even a digital poverty in some of our institutions. And these are challenges, this is the landscape that we're working in. So I do think there is a kind of opportunity for us as we sort of think and reflect through the conference and beyond and keep those conversations going. How will we shape the future? How will we inform that narrative? And I think part of that is actually being confident in our own narrative. So what is our role? We're kind of increasingly sort of working in this third space, the intersection between the academic space and the professional services which again Elizabeth really stressed this morning. So how do we establish that further and how do we really consolidate that and those relationships that we've developed with academics? So I guess what I'm really saying is that I'm just delighted that we can be here really at this conference particularly in person because it's those conversations in between the sessions where I think there's often the real value and the nuggets of gold that we can follow up that we can then take back to our own practice and shape the future whether that's in a university, whether it's in higher education or in the school sector. I think increasingly what I'm seeing is so many of our colleagues are moving to the commercial sector. So there's also I think another space that's kind of being inhabited by many of old members. So looking forward to those conversations and seeing how we shape that narrative to take us forward and shape the future of learning and teaching. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Natalie. Some key messages around space to engage, consolidating what we've learned from the last couple of years and also how we can continue to influence things going forward particularly around that leadership dimension that's emerged. So some key points there, thank you very much Natalie. Can I ask you now to welcome Puree and Walg? Hello everyone. Can you hear me? Okay, good. So I think reflecting on my own journey and my friend's journeys as well I think the biggest achievement for us over the last couple of years has been people finally know who we are and what we do. If you cast your mind back to say three or four years ago and you told your colleagues I'm a learning technologist, I'm a learning designer people probably wouldn't know what you do but now people have a much better understanding of what we do, what we're capable of and I think our expertise goes far beyond just fixing Moodle and uploading something on to Penochtol. We are experts in education, we understand how to use technology in learning, to make learning engaging, to make learning accessible, to make learning fun and I think there's been a big transformation and I think this is something that we need to absolutely keep doing. I've been there to mention about hero mode. Now we can deactivate it now because we're not fighting fire anymore but I would argue slightly that we have to send it to the hero's status because we can't go back to how it was where we're just fixing Moodle and telling people how to use Penochtol and how to tell people I don't know how to send an email or set up an outlook appointment. Like I said earlier, we are expert in education and we need to keep getting a message across to the wider community of education, in education and I think a lot of institution, a lot of senior management are getting the message because one of the things I've witnessed in the last couple of years I mean I got a promotion myself so that's good of the back of the pandemic and I think a lot of institutions are investing into the people investing into the structure of learning technology people to paraphrase something my friends Laurie, I'm trying to think if he's here because I did make it a mission to embarrass him in front of people so Laurie Mages and my friend Donna, they have said it many many times digital transformation is not just about the technology it's about the people, it's about the culture, it's about the resources and I think a lot of institutions have finally got the message that investing into people is what we need and you guys are our heroes, right? So we need to keep that going let's not go back to how it was, let people remember what we've done in partnership with our teaching colleagues to make learning fun to make learning that people, students want to learn and one more thing I wanted to say is I had a recent conversation with Maureen about making the community more expanding I suppose welcoming more researchers, tell researchers into the community because tell research and tell practice they're not too set for things they are the same thing, they complement each other and I'm just looking in the room I can see a lot of researchers, doctors, PhD students so let's just get our research out there, let's just keep sharing the knowledge let's just keep sharing the love and just keep all the good work I suppose and please don't go back to, just wanted to say something I was kind of debating this morning should I say it or not so I'm going to do it, I have been caught many many times I'm a noodle tech, a colleague used to work with he is frequently referred to as a noodle man please, please just remind our colleagues we are not just noodle techs it's the integral part of our jobs but it's a small part we understand pedagogies, we understand education we understand how to use technology in education and I think it's one more thing as well there's a talk about new normal going back on campus online education might be a thing of the past, most institutions that's okay if that's what we want but let's keep reminding people digital education is not the same as online education online education is one part of digital education if you want to teach in person in a classroom that's absolutely fine, there's still a valid place for learning technology to be there so online education is just one small part of learning technology and I think the last couple of years might have given people the wrong impression so let's correct it, let's just keep doing what we do let's just keep sharing the love it's not understatement to say three or four years ago I aspire to be one of you guys it's not a secret that I'm only three years into my learning technology journey so I am here because of you guys so I think you all deserve a round of applause for you guys not for me, thank you very much thank you very much, period I think there are some real strong messages there around the richness of digital education and the different dimensions of digital education practice the role of learning technologies is educational experts and experts actually sit in the middle weaving together learning design, assessment, the use of technology, accessibility and universal design and some things I suspect we might come back to at tomorrow morning's panel session so thank you very much indeed last but certainly not least, Lorna Campbell Thanks very much, Keith I'm tempted to just say I agree with everything Queen on Natalie said but for those of you who know me you probably won't be surprised to hear that I think that openness is going to continue to be key going forward I know that some of you will be aware of the crisis in ebook pricing but that is exercising many of our librarians at this point in time and it's quite interesting I think that a number of institutions have gone down the road of launching open textbook presses for the first time and I have been hearing some quite interesting narratives about how the library sector in the UK hasn't really engaged with open education resources before but of course our expertise around open education resources lies with us with learning technologies so I hope that our expertise in this area will be drawn on and we will be able to work closely with our library colleagues in order to address this crisis because as Prian said access to knowledge, open knowledge and sharing our knowledge and sharing our expertise is critical now like it's never been at any time in the future also important going forward I think is going to be the whole issue of ethics in learning technology and I think all framework for ethical learning technology is going to be absolutely key it's increasingly important that we have informed approaches to the implementation and also to our interactions with technology and that's true right across the academy both ourselves as learning technologies for academic colleagues and particularly for our students and my colleagues Melissa Highton and Stuart Nicol will be talking tomorrow afternoon about fables, fairy tales and the complex worlds of learning technology ethics so please do go along to that presentation and of course one of the aspects of ethics is care and I think pedagogies of care again are going to be critical for us all going forward because there has been this real rush to get back to normal but I think there is no back to normal what is normal now is not what was normal before and we are living in increasingly uncertain times and that is going to have a significant impact on our colleagues and our students going forward so I believe that it's really important that care in the institution is supported at the institutional level because all too often that burden of care does fall to those who are already marginalised and overworked within our academy and I'm sure again you are all will be very very aware of this we've already heard about how suddenly everyone relied on turn to their learning technologies to really save them at the height of the pandemic and we worked with some very stressed people and there was a caring element to that and that needs to be recognised and supported by our institutions and one manifestation of that ethics of care is the Femmed Tech quilt some of you might be aware of this project it was initially launched to coincide with the OER 2020 conference and it was a craft activism project that was brought together by the Femmed Tech Network which is an informal network of people working and learning around education and technology and I know there are quite a few members of the Femmed Tech community here so if you've been involved with Femmed Tech in any way shape or form can put your hands up and give us a wave just so you can see who you are see there's quite a few of us here so the quilt project invited people to submit a square which would be quilted together by Francis Bell to create a quilt of care and social justice and the idea was to exhibit this quilt at the OER conference but of course that never happened because the pandemic overtook us all but thankfully Francis has brought the quilt here to the conference and we're actually going to be able to see it in all its material glory for the first time tomorrow so please don't miss out on that we will be exhibiting it and you will also have an opportunity to contribute to the quilt there will be an opportunity for anyone to add to some new squares that we hope to add to the quilt so please do come along this afternoon Francis and I will be there on an awful day with the quilt so I think it just remains for me to say enjoy the conference and I hope we can continue these conversations throughout Thank you very much indeed Lorna and yeah bring it to the forefront issues around care and democratising access to resources providing equitable experiences and making this meaningful for all our learners so yeah really important and I'm guessing there's information in the programme about where we can see the quilt great thank you so just a couple of headlines on things that are coming up and then we'll move in to the parallel sessions later on today after the end of the sessions we will have the alt awards Dave did you understand anything about this very briefly take a minute or two Right the alt awards for those that you probably all know what the alt awards are do you? I can't ask a room full of 250 people an open question like that it's pointless this way we need the technology anyway 5pm am I right Maren? great love working with Maren 5pm back in here yes Maren yeah excellent absolutely know what I'm doing 5pm back in here this evening the alt awards very excited to be doing the awards face to face it's always a fun thing and we've got many new types of awards this evening as well so you can take a look at those and there'll be plenty going on we get to find out exactly who won and what for and in what way and then drinks afterwards drinks afterwards so if that isn't an invitation I don't know what is so back in here at 5 everyone I expect to see you here I know what you all look like now I thought Dave knew all about the awards but luckily Dave knew that Maren knew all about the awards so that's absolutely fine another thing to flag Alt AGM tomorrow to which all are welcome Maren in here quarter past one quarter past one in here and I think that's what we're wanting to cover isn't it is it back to you now Maren that's finished now for this session I wasn't sure if you were coming back up it's almost like we never rehearsed it thank you very much indeed colleagues I agree to take a little bit of extra time to make your way to your parallel sessions and we'll see as many of you as possible back in here for the awards later on this evening thank you