Good afternoon, welcome to the Faculty of Public Affairs Spotlight event. My name is Denlyn Felipe. We are in week two of our CU at home webinar series and it's been going really really well. I'm super excited to be able to connect with you all through Microsoft team. This week we've been spotlighting many of our programs. We started with our Faculty of Engineering and Design, the Sprott School of Business and our Faculty of Science, but today is a day that's super special for me personally. You see today we are drawing the attention to my faculty. To be back in 2004, yes 2004, I graduated from what is now known as the Bachelor of Communication and Media Studies and my very first day at at Carl's, my very first university class, I took a course on speechmaking and public speaking and I gotta tell you that course that that year that degree really changed my life. Ever since I graduated I've been a member of the recruitment team here at Carlton University and I get a chance to connect with all of you through our various recruitment initiatives. So this one is really close to heart and I'm really excited to showcase what our faculty has in store for you. If this is your first time using Microsoft Teams or checking in on one of our webinars, I want to thank you for for joining us and I want to draw your attention to our Q&A function. We want to hear from you. So please take the time, ask questions throughout today's session. We have members of every single department represented here in our event and so we want to really hear from you, hear where you have to say the questions you have about your future degree program. You're also going to get a chance to hear and see from many members of our faculty and I'll be along for the ride to help you with your questions too. So if you have any questions for the specific faculties that you see or departments you see showcased in our live events, feel free to ask them. We'll publish them in the Q&A published section and I will ask those questions on your behalf so I'll be the voice of the people for today. To start today's webinar, we want to really step the groundwork and give you a great overview of what the faculty is all about. And to do so, I'd like to invite our Dean of the Faculty of Public Affairs, Mr. Andre Florin, to say a few words. So the next person you're going to see on screen is Andre. So Andre, the floor is yours. Thank you very much, Stanley, and welcome everybody to the webinar for the Faculty of Public Affairs. As Stanley has explained, we're going to do this in basically two parts. First part is I'm going to speak about the faculty overall, kind of how we fit together, and then you're going to have the opportunity to hear from almost all of the programs that are offered by units in the Faculty of Public Affairs, have a chance to ask questions of all of them, have a chance to have general questions where somebody else from the university can help answer. So without further ado, maybe we go to the next slide. Great. So I think what this tells you now essentially is what we are in the Faculty of Public Affairs. So all in all, there are 12 academic units in the faculty. Those that are highlighted on the screen are the ones where bachelor's programs are offered. So the kinds of programs that you're considering right now are offered in all of those units. The other thing I want to highlight is the fact that we have all in all about 8,000 students in the faculty. About 6,500 of them are enrolled in bachelor's programs. So it is a big faculty that includes a large number of programs and a lot of different types of programs. Again, I know that you're, you know, choosing a university, choosing a program of study is a really complicated set of questions to answer, and especially in these times that we're facing now. But I want to assure you that all of us here in the Faculty of Public Affairs are in your corner. We want you to succeed. We want you to come to us and kind of learn from us and participate in who we are. And at the same time, we want you for you to be successful. I want to make sure that you know that all of the first year courses that you'll be taking this year, this fall, will be offered remotely. So that means that it will be offered through the internet. There will be no courses offered here on campus at Carleton, but you will receive the same high quality education from these courses right from the safety of your own home. So this is kind of who we are, is what we are. And the next slide is about who we are. And so this basically brings together five big ideas around which the faculty coalesces. So if you ask people around, what are we all about, who do we get, what kind of ideas do we identify with, those are those ideas. So the first one has to do with governance and public policy. Almost all of our programs have major elements as part of them that study in one way or another the role of government in our societies. And so that kind of sets apart the programs of the Faculty of Public Affairs from other programs offered at Carleton. Many of our students are studying in these areas very intensively. A lot of our alumni, as you would expect, are in fact working directly in this area. You can't be too surprised at that. After all, we are in Ottawa. It is Canada's capital. It is a huge advantage for us. We can talk about this a little bit later. It means that a lot of the professors that you will be working with have close partnerships with different government agencies or departments. They have close partnerships with some non-governmental organizations or international societies that are headquartered here in Ottawa. And basically, you have to remember, the diplomatic community is essentially in our backyard. Basically, embassies and high commissions are here in Ottawa. Number of our programs have built special relationships with either some or a large number of these embassies and high commissions. And it kind of is a way of enriching the experience that you can have when you come to us. Second big idea, second and third big idea, our focus on building a better society and building better democracy. So for us, fundamentally, our students are interested in making a difference in the world. That's the kind of student that comes to programs offered by the Faculty of Public Affairs. Students, you will learn how to make a difference in the world, how to improve our societies, how to work to enhance democracy. There's a number of ways in which that you can do this. First of all, two examples that come to mind are the placements and the practicums that are available through our Bachelor of Social Work and the Bachelor of Arts in Criminology and Criminal Justice. Both groups really work hard to build linkages in with their communities and therefore give you some experience right to make a difference in our societies right within the programs. Next big idea is about informed citizenship. So Bachelor's degrees really are helping you develop a sense of what it means to be an active citizen of your city, of your province, or our country. So this is a way, essentially, of taking what you learn and applying it across your areas of interest. Finally, we are about addressing regional and global challenges. And that means for us, international learning experience are an integral part of what we do in the Faculty of Public Affairs. And in preparation for the fall terms and the limitations that we're facing as a result of that, professors have been working to modify courses so that this experience can be achieved at home without traveling internationally. So there's no need for you to fear that you're going to have to go abroad in order to develop some kind of experience, at least for the fall term. Next slide, please. Thank you. So now in a very highly creative way, we have put all the programs together as to which building the department or the unit that offers the program is located. So what you have before you first is Richcraft Hall. This is our newest building in the Faculty of Public Affairs. All of the programs that you see listed here are offered either through the School of Journalism and Communication. That's the Bachelor of Communications and Media Studies, the Bachelor of Journalism, the Bachelor of Media Production and Design, or the Institute of European Russian and Eurasian Studies, the BA in European and Russian Studies. You'll have the opportunity to learn more about all of these programs later on in this session. Next slide, please. So this is basically the low building is essentially where the faculty used to be at its core, in a sense that most of the units started here and then spread across the faculty, across the university. So as you can tell, a number of programs are headquartered in the low building. Again, you'll have the opportunity to learn about all of these programs later on in this presentation. Everything from criminology and criminal justice to law to economics, political science, all of these programs will be discussed later on in the session. And finally, the last building in which Faculty of Public Affairs programs are headquartered is the Dunton Tower. Then we have brand new facilities that people will be moving into over the course of the summer for the Bachelor of Global and International Studies. And then the Bachelor of Social Work basically has all of its facilities, including research labs and stuff like this in the Dunton Tower. So what's particularly interesting about the Dunton Tower is it has a beautiful view of the campus, of the Rideau Canal, of Dows Lake, and of the Rideau River. So it is kind of an interesting way of seeing the city and the university within its geographical context. So this is a bit of an overview of what we have here in the Faculty of Public Affairs. I'm happy to take some of your questions if you wish. So thank you very much. Awesome. Thank you, Andre, for that awesome overview. And like Andre just mentioned, we want to hear from you. So you have any questions for the Dean of your Faculty of Public Affairs? Please go ahead and ask those questions now. We'll try to get to as many as we can during the next 10, 15 minutes or so. But while we're waiting for those questions, Andre, I've got a question for you. You referenced our location here in Ottawa. What are some of those advantages that Carleton has and specifically this faculty has in being located in the nation's capital? Well, I'll start with something quite straightforward in the sense that a lot of the subject matters that we look at are of interest to people working in Ottawa. So we have a lot of people who actually work in Ottawa who bring their expertise on campus basically to teach some of our courses. So we've got a lot of the professionals working in government or in public service more generally that will come here and teach some of our courses, bringing what they know about their experiences to the classroom. So a lot of political staffers have come to teach for us. A lot of some speechwriters, people who are journalists or lawyers or economists for working for government or for NGOs, for example, will come and teach here. It makes a huge difference. It makes us such a much richer learning environment, but also offer learning opportunities to our students that are simply not available off outside of Ottawa. It is this disconnection that allows this two-way street in the sense of bringing expertise on campus. And similarly, the fact that a number of our professors work on issues of interest to the public sector, including NGOs and international organizations, makes a difference. It makes us quite different. It enriches our programs and the experience that our students can have. The other thing is it also means that we take advantage of the physical location in a different way. For example, a number of our students will be interns on Parliament Hill. If you're interested in politics or the political processes, you can work for a minister. You can work for a political party. You can work for a member of Parliament, for example. In other cases, if you think of courses in law, for example, the proximity of the Supreme Court is something that is interesting to the students, is something that enriches the experience, and that is not available elsewhere in Ottawa. So I think there's a two-way connection here. We take advantage of our location by building linkages from campus to the community, but we also are privileged in the sense that some of the members of the community come and bring their expertise and share it with our students. And there was a question here about job outcomes, and I'm sure those two approaches having access to community members and bringing the community to campus can lead to some really great outcomes. So maybe you can touch on, you mentioned a little bit, about some of the different jobs that could come out of a degree in public affairs. So we have tracked over the years we've tracked more than 10,000 graduates with degrees offered by units in the Faculty of Public Affairs, and so looked at the job outcomes that these people have had. All of this information is available on our website at carleton.ca backslashfpa, and the tab if you want on the website is called Career Paths, and so you can look at what typically, what kinds of jobs have people obtained after degrees in the Faculty of Public Affairs. You can't be too surprised given our location that a lot of our graduates end up working for government in one form or another, and so that is a big part of who we are. It's a big part of what our students and the graduates of our programs end up doing. What's interesting, however, is that you can also see the broad reach of our students. A number of our students end up in the professions, for example. So we'll use a degree in obtaining the Faculty of Public Affairs to pursue further studies and go to law school, for example. So there's a lot of information on our website dealing with exactly that sort of issue. Look at how broad the range of experiences are across the degree programs, and keep in mind what's interesting is that each degree opens a lot of doors. It's not like this, there is a one-to-one correspondence, you do this degree, this is the kind of position that you get. You can see there's a rich array of different types of outcomes that our students have obtained once they've secured a degree from the faculty. Awesome, thank you for that update, Andre. Now what about activities outside of the classrooms? So for students who are in the faculty, you know, when they're not necessarily spending time in the classroom, what are some of the activities that are available for them to participate in? Okay, great. Thanks for that. Thanks for that, Stanley. I think the issue for us has been experiential learning. So kind of learning once you're applying what you've learned in a classroom in a real world type of environment is something that we also privilege in the faculty. So we are big participants in the co-op program, for example. A number of our programs have internships or placement components. Both of those mean that you essentially go from campus and go in a work environment, either full-time or during when you're taking other courses to obtain that kind of experience. So that's something that students in the Faculty of Public Affairs will have the opportunity to do as part of their degree program. We also offer a number of undergraduate research opportunities. You can design your own project for everything from designing your own project, research project, to working with a faculty member on or a professor on one of their own projects. Summer programs where students, for example, will be supported to go and do some do the research projects over the course of the summer. We've got a number of student societies, almost every unit in the faculty has an undergraduate student society that kind of promotes events that are specific to that degree program. We also have a special program that we call the FPA Ambassadors and they're basically here to kind of help us present the faculty to students, to people who come to visit us on campus. They are hosts on the many of the public events that we hold on campus or this year will be hold, this fall we'll be holding them some of these online. So they really are participating in the life of the faculty in ways that really, I think, contribute to building their success for the future. As I said, we have a number of faculty-wide events. We have lectures, we have all kinds of conferences on campus. So there's real opportunity to step a little bit outside of the degree program that you want to participate in and then kind of enrich your experience while you're here with us at Carleton. Awesome. Now there was a question about first year registration and I just want to mention to the folks out there who either are holding offers or who've accepted their offer of admission, once you do accept we will be emailing you in the coming weeks to tell you more about registration itself, so the process, how to register, how to access our site. But what I want to ask you, Andre, is if there are some special courses that students might want to look out for in year one as they enter into their degree program. Yes, I think it's important to keep in mind that most first year class are relatively large, so you'll be in there with a lot of different of students, but there are two things that I'd like to highlight. First is that there's a number of courses that are available to students across a number of programs in the faculty where there's a really hands-on component from the outset. Some of these courses are offered by journalism, some of these courses offered by social work and in media production and design, but also more broadly, but there are courses that really are kind of there from your first year to let you experiment with material as you go along. The other thing I want to highlight is that we do have what's called first year seminars, which essentially are small groups, so courses offered to relatively small groups of students talking about a maximum of 30 students in a course with a professor that are essentially structured around special topics by and large. So if you think, for example, in communication and media studies, in this fall there will be a seminar called Truth, Post-Truth, and News, so it is a way of trying to put together special types of topics, but in a way that's quite focused that will help students develop a broad range of skills, again in a small group environment. Similarly, in political science, for example, a first-year seminar on offer this year will be Canadian Indigenous Relations. You can well imagine kind of taking that from a political science perspective and again bringing this relatively small number of students to have a really rich experience engaging with that topic. So I think these are courses and these are a number of other courses are offered as first-year seminars that would encourage students to consider taking them. It's a different type of experience. It's something then a large first-year class. It really gives you the opportunity to get in depth into a specific topic that you might be really interested in. Now before we let you go, because we do have a lot of different folks we want to hear from this afternoon, I want to ask you if you have like some bit of advice that you want to give to our future students as they enter into their undergraduate degree, what type of advice would you give them to make the most out of their degree program? Well, I think for us as I've tried to highlight through all of this, there's so many opportunities to get involved outside of the immediate area of your degree program, and I think that's part of the really exciting thing in the Faculty of Public Affairs. There's so many things that you can get involved with as you do your program, and I would really encourage students to take advantage of those when they're with us in their degree program. So it's not just about the specific degree program that you've got. There are a number of ways you can attend lectures. These are all, for example, you can participate as an FPA ambassador, you can become very active in a student society. All of these are ways to complement the experience that you get as part of your degree program. You'll enjoy it, you'll meet really interesting people, and you'll look back once you finish your degree and really think highly of the experience that you've gotten. Thank you. Those are great words to leave things that. So thank you so much, Andre, for this amazing overview. Our dean will stay online with you all. So if you have any questions for Andre, please again keep asking them in the Q&A, and Andre will be able to answer them through the Q&A as well. So what we're going to be doing now is hearing from our Bears Department. So we have a lot of amazing departments in the Faculty of Public Affairs, and so they'll be able to give you an update, give you a bit of an overview of what's happening in the department, what you have to look forward to, and then again we want to answer your question. So when you see on the slide or the PowerPoint, you see the name of the department that means that they are being spotlighted, and so they're able to answer some of your questions live and we'll take some of those questions for you.  So if there are additional questions that you want to ask, we do encourage you to do so again through the event Q&A. So the first person I'm going to ask to appear on screen is Vincent Andresani. He is a member of the Bachelor of Communication and Media Studies. Vincent, the screen is yours. Great. Thanks, Stanley. I appreciate it. So my name is Vincent Andresani. I'm a faculty member in Communication and Media Studies here at Carleton, and I teach the first year introductory courses to the program as well as a fourth year course in media production. Now being the instructor of the intro courses, what I thought I'd do is take the next five or so minutes to tell you a bit about them and how they help prepare our students to work through the comms and media studies program more broadly. What I'll do is I'll end with a couple quick thoughts about the program and some possibilities for extracurricular student participation, and once that's done, I'd be happy to take any questions that you might have if there are any. If not, then maybe I'll tell you a little bit more about the first year courses in terms of how they're organized and the types of the type of work that students produce while they're in them. For the remainder of the session, myself and my colleague, Dr. Irina Knezovich, who's the chair of the Communication Undergrad Program, we'd be happy to take any questions you might have through the chat box. Okay, so the courses. There are two mandatory courses in the first year of the BCOMS program. The first one runs in the fall and the other runs in the winter semester. The course in the fall is titled Foundations in Communication and Media Studies and it does precisely that. It begins building the foundations of the discipline. It's organized according to some of the many media that we use today and it gravitates mainly around the idea of media history. So understanding the origins of our media and how they've been used across different historical moments and across different cultures. So some of the media that we cover in this course are writing and printing, images and photography, radio and audio media, television, digital media and of course social media. And so we also spend some time thinking about the relationship between these media and the economy. So a media industries and a mass communication approach informs the work that we do throughout much of the semester. But it's also important to note that this class also offers the opportunity to begin building a language to discuss communication and media. This is something that we need to be able to speak about media. It's something we need not only for the first year but it's a key part of the program and the discipline more broadly. Now the course that runs in the winter semester is called Current Issues in Communication and Media and it's at that point that we kind of pivot away from media history and we look at more contemporary topics in the discipline. So we begin by learning about the dominant paradigms in communication studies today and we use these paradigms to think through a series of topics, popular culture, film, gaming, online communities, cancel culture, environmental communication and smart cities are some of the topics that we offer or that we cover. Now this offers students a sense of some of the current issues in the field while it also gets them acquainted with the sort of thinking and critical approaches that the discipline is built on. Okay so now how does all this help set students up for the rest of the program and the program in general? Well the foundations of the field underpin most any course students will take throughout their degrees and so the language and the media explorations that we do in first year form the basis of what the rest of the program expands and it develops. But just as important is that some of the many topics that we cover in first year they end up being primers for dedicated courses throughout the rest of the program. For instance you know there's an upper division course called visual media, another called environmental communication, another called game studies and all of these are topics that are introduced in the first year. So as is the case with most disciplines students in communication have the opportunity to sort of tailor their learning through the later stages of the program by selecting courses that capture their interest more than others. So courses at this level which I'm like the upper division third and fourth year they tend to speak more to contemporary topics and they often inflect the research interests of faculty members themselves. And as a quick aside I've been part of a couple of communication departments here in Canada and I have to say that the faculty here at Carleton are really our second to none in terms of not only the breadth of their research but also the quality of it. So a little plug there for my colleagues. Now okay so in terms of extracurricular activities aside from all of the student clubs and interest groups and organizations that are available at the university level I think there was a question about that on the in the discussion thread. The communication department really has a vibrant and active student society. The communication undergraduate student society or CUS is the acronym COSS plays an important role in getting first year students acquainted with the program and with the university. Throughout the school year they'll organize a series of events activities and workshops that are not only designed for leisure and socialization but also for student learning and professionalization. For instance last year they invited a couple of communication professionals to speak to students about what it is they do and how it was that they were trained. So my suggestion for any incoming student would definitely be to get involved with CUS and whether that means becoming a representative or just kind of keeping up to date with what they're up to that would be and that's an excellent and strategic move I'd say. Lastly in terms of work opportunities I think Andre, Dean Pleard covered this quite well but I will say that co-op is available throughout our program or through our program. To be honest I wish I was more well versed in how it works than I am but I can tell you that Dr. Knezovich and she's online and so if you have any questions I'd invite you to ask during the Q&A but what I can tell you about the co-op program however is that in my classes I've had more than a few students who've participated in it and they have nothing but good things to say about their experiences. Our students tend to find placements in a number of different fields as Dean Pleard mentioned and across a range of positions as political advisors for government as communication strategists in the private sector or working for an NGO and in the media industry. So I think that that should probably do it in terms of my overview of the first year courses and the program in general and so I'd be happy to take any questions if there are any and if not I can describe maybe the the intro courses in just a bit more detail if that would be useful. Well Vincent there was a question about whether the course is available for students who are studying in journalism so maybe you can touch a little bit on kind of the school of journalism and communication and we will touch or talk to Randy from Journalism and Chris from Media Production Design but maybe you can talk a bit about you know kind of how communication fits into the school itself and and whether or not some of the courses are available for students outside of communications and media studies. So the degree degree is largely a sort of it's theoretically oriented it's theoretically oriented in the sense that our aim in the department is to get students to learn how to think learn how to think and be reflexive and gain what you know what we call media literacy. We have some hands-on sorts of approaches that are at the upper division but it's largely they're you know a handful of fourth year courses that kind of get students working with media and producing media but a large part of it is I think as Dr. Knezavich mentioned in the in the chat thread sort of critical and theoretical. In terms of students sitting in my class I know that there are three sections of the intro course comms 1001 and 1002 the two courses that I teach and the sections that I teach are dedicated to comms majors only. There is however a third section section C that runs in each semester that's open to journalism journalism majors as well so there is some some play between the the programs and that would be kind of how how journalism students end up sitting in the first year the first year comms classes. Awesome and I got a couple of not questions but statements so one student said that they're coming for comms and media studies and they can't wait and another student mentioned that he didn't have a question but he wanted to say how excited they are to be coming into communications and media studies and how the courses sound really great he loved hearing about them so just want to throw some positive feedback your way and to say again I'm a graduate of this degree so I'm a little biased but I think the greatest degree ever created maybe you can talk a bit about the enthusiasm you see from students as they kind of enter into their first year and and the types of connections that come out of that that that bond that they get that degree. Thanks Stanley well the first thing I'll say is we're excited to have you we're really looking forward to having welcoming the incoming cohort this year in terms of the enthusiasm students have yeah I mean I think I saw it in last year's cohort quite a bit when you cover as as an instructor when I cover topics that that students connect with because it's part of their everyday life I think the the connections are there to be made you know when we talk about social media in class when we talk about you know cancel culture when when you know I work through a given topic whatever the topic might be using using examples that resonate in students lives using contemporary things things that happen literally yesterday that I draw on and bring them into class you know the the the effort that I have to put into making it to connect with students with students lives everyday lives is minimal because it's there and you know communication and using media these are things that we're doing always and already so thinking about them from a critical perspective and and trying to develop as I say you know media literacy it's it seems like a natural it seems like a natural step and I saw it in last year's cohort students were really really excited I would get students talking to me after every lecture about how and why a given topic resonates with them and so I'm we're excited to have you awesome we'll leave that that thank you so much Vincent if you have any more questions for our communications media studies you can definitely fire up those questions in the Q&A next person you're going to hear from is Chris Gunn and he's in chat a bit about our Bachelor of Economics so Chris you're up okay thank you very much Stanley and I'll just start by saying you did mention that communications was perhaps the best degree created I will politely argue during this period that economics might take that place but I would be lovely it would be lovely to really push a second place but welcome everyone my name is Christopher Gunn I'm an associate professor and undergraduate supervisor in the department of economics I'm a macro economist so I teach intermediate macro theory advanced macro theory at the undergraduate level and then I do a PhD course in macro and monetary theory what I want to talk about in the next few minutes is of course giving an overview of our Bachelor of Economics undergraduate program and I'd like to talk about an exciting new addition we added to that program that will be in place for next year before I do that though I just want to say a few things about economics in general because unlike some of the other disciplines in the faculty I find when I speak with high school students there could be a bit of a misunderstanding about what economics actually is and when I you know meet with students they often will come to me and say what exactly is economics and in particular how does economics differ from business I typically hear that from about 90% of students so let's start off right there and think about what is the difference between studying in business and economics I know many of you are thinking about that struggle right now these degrees can overlap the disciplines can overlap they're both really great degrees but they're fundamentally quite different in the and their approach in a nutshell in business you're learning about how to create and and operate and manage a business and finance a business and it's really focused about these administrative aspects of how to run an operated business in contrast economics it's a social science and you're learning a framework for trying to study and analyze decisions or choices made by households and government and businesses and so there can be an overlap in terms of some of the domain but fundamentally it's an intellectual type of science and so what we really like to stress what we think about this is these decision makers making trying to make choices when they're trying to face uncertainty and when they're facing competing interests and when they're facing limited resources okay and that you know we think develops some a really nice aspect of thinking about this scientific approach and that is what the second thing I want to stress is that fundamentally it's a science and the primary component of that is that in a pursuit of these questions we're typically developing theories and forming quantitative models but then we're always using evidence and data to try to sort through those things so it's this interplay between these these two modes of thought and we're using you know data and projections to try to predict and understand this behavior from particular economic actors and so why do we study all this well for London it's really interesting but for two we can actually help society a lot so and different aspects of society so we can deal with important societal questions right and we can deal with important problems for the government but we also can deal with a lot of problems and state problems related to individuals and households and and businesses themselves okay so so many of you might know that economists study things like business cycles monetary policy international trade inflation unemployment those are the things you often read about when you you know you open the globe of mail and look in the business section or just look to see the general pages but that's only a small fraction of economics and there's a lot of economists including in our faculty working on things that typically people would think are part of other fields things like healthcare climate change in the environment these are really really important societal issues that benefit from having this social scientific type approach and and the framework that we're bringing to the table not just as advocates but really an objective science trying to think about these questions we also have economists dealing with things like social structures related to family and marriage believe it or not economists even will talk about marriage markets so we could if there's an object we can usually create a market for it okay um so our bachelor of economics degree it was up to about three or four years ago it was a bachelor of arts degree and then we migrated it into a very specific bachelor of economics degree to try to think improve the optics in terms of what we're actually doing within the degree and that's by and large the students have found that really beneficial type change um so the core emphasis is on on you know educating on this framework framework of thought and through these strands of developing skills and economic theory and quantitative and statistical analysis now there certainly is a large focus on the quantitative aspects but that doesn't mean that's the only path so we we've built in enough flexibility into the degree into the degree where you have choices and you can effectively choose your past once you get to a certain point right so for example you know a traditional student wanting a quantitative bent could make their choices such that they're getting a lot of quantitative skills coming out of the degree and they may find themselves and you know further economic studies in graduate school they could find themselves in analytical roles within the government or within the financial sector these are you know two very large sectors that employ our graduates high technology is is is also very large and it's increasingly becoming so with the reliance on on data science okay and then many other sectors traditional and non-traditional okay others might choose a less quantitative path where they develop some of the initial foundation courses around economic thought but then we find that that can provide a really nice springboard into some of the less quantitative areas like for example international relations journalism or law for example we have a fair number of students going into those those type paths okay within the degree itself you have the option of doing up to eight different concentrations which are specializations in particular areas of economics in some cases you're taking courses to fulfill these concentrations from across the university so examples are financial economics which is by and large our most popular concentration often students who are also having an interest in business and see themselves working in the financial sector will take this and then as part of this concentration the students end up taking several courses out of the Sprott School of Business in the in the within the university and other we have development is another option we have options in computational analysis where students take several computer science courses as part of this this year we're very happy to announce a new concentration that will be available for students in the fall and that's in economic data science and then as many of you know the field of data science has become extremely popular and extremely high demand and quite an excellent garden for placing students at different levels and we've developed as we've developed a lot of technologies in society to gather these masses of amounts of data and store them and process them and collect data in nontraditional forms it's opened up this many many new opportunities in which you know in this data analytics that in effect has existed for a really long time data scientists you can find will come from many different disciplines at Carleton we have great programs in different aspects of data science across the university through computer science or statistics we think though economics economics in general and then our program specifically is is able to capitalize on some really unique aspects we look at problems in a very different way in a very unique way by trying to motivate our now our analysis through economic theory and through the years of all the empirical analysis and the way these methods have developed in economics we've developed many statistical methods which we refer to as econometrics that lend themselves very very well to these data data science type problems so we've been here when I meet with employers and I meet with past graduates they say how much they enjoy and benefit from being able to hire economists working these data science capacities in contrast to someone who's purely technical or someone who just has computer programming skills or even someone who just has mathematical scientific skills because it's a huge value to the business to be able to apply this economic reasoning so we're very excited about this this option and we think it'll give students that you know not only fulfill some of their intellectual curiosity but provide some more avenues into different placements the the data science concentration itself begins by the students taking some initial courses in computer coding and information technology but that's not the focus the focus of the overall degree would be trying to view these database problems through the lens of economics theory and developing the quantitative tools to support that and it will culminate in these two new courses we've added at the third and fourth year level those students will be working with practicing data scientists in the industry in Ottawa and the high tech sector who will be contribute to some of the teaching content and have the students actually participate in practical projects putting their material up into GitHub etc okay so that's all I'd like to say right now it's part of the formal introduction I'll be happy to answer questions later and of course I can address additional specifics during the the free form discussion it follows thank you thank you for that Chris I just want to ask you one quick question about there was a question about application and whether or not the applications are going to be utilized throughout the degree are iOS windows friendly so if you're using Apple device or a Windows application will you be fine yeah that I that I think students will be fine on all platforms we even have some students who hardcore that only work on say Linux but if you know and if I look across my faculty meetings usually I you see half half iOS devices and half you know Windows based devices so so for the most part we're not dependent on that particular technology when you get into quantitative courses for example if you're doing introduction in econometrics later and there may be a specific software package that the professor is asking you to use typically we're using you know broad-based highly regarded packages like R or Stata and these tend to be available across that platform perfect awesome well thank you for that Chris and again if there are any questions about the economics degree please feel free to ask in the Q&A oh go ahead so I was going to say Stanley did I did I change your ranking on the best degree ever yet after that well you know you know like my my vote is not for sale so I've already been converted fully to communications but I truly do value every single degree that we're going to hear from today for sure. Thank you Stanley and thanks again everyone for joining. Thank you all right so you're seeing Neil on the screen currently so Neil is going to talk a bit more about the Bachelor of Global and International Studies go ahead Neil. Thanks Stanley I'm going to have to disagree with my colleagues Vince and Chris and assert that global and international studies is sort of central right now at least in this these particular times but I guess that's up to students to decide. I want to give a quick overview of the program it's elements talk a little bit about the first year experience and take any questions that students may have this program is designed to train students in how to make sense of global and international issues and processes through intensive interdisciplinary study as well as experiential learning that requires students to go overseas and put into practice what they've learned. Our goal is to train deep critical thinkers who are also prepared for a career in the international field and are also prepared for graduate studies around the world. In the program you'll find four main elements first there are a set of core courses that all of our students must take together and these give you a kind of interdisciplinary background in global and international studies so for example in first year your core courses would include global history global law and politics and global ethnography and culture. In second year they'd be global ethics international economic systems and global literatures third year international theory and global environment and in fourth year you would choose from one from a range of seminars on special topics so I mentioned these just to give you a sense of the the interdisciplinarity of this program in addition to taking a set of core courses you would take you would choose one from 18 specializations seems like a lot of specializations but what this lets you do is tailor the program to your specific interests so if you're interested in a particular issue like migration you can specialize in migration studies if you're interested in a particular region such as Eastern Europe you can specialize in Europe and Russia in the world if you're interested in a career in the political field you can take global politics or global law and social justice and so on and so forth so you would choose one specialization and you choose that when you first come into the program you can certainly change it if you find that it's not meeting your needs as you go through the program. Third element of the program is the international experience requirement and here we have a number of options all students are required to go abroad if possible and experience the world more broadly so one option is work placements and where we would place you in an organization in some other part of the world and you become part of the the team there. Examples of places where students have gone include Canadian delegation to the United Nations children's sports camp in Uganda a women's entrepreneurship organization in Vietnam NATO headquarters in Brussels an alternative energy organization in Uganda the House of Lords and House of Commons in the UK and a number of governments around the world as well. Second kind of option is Carleton courses taught abroad where a professor takes the course overseas and these include places where students have gone classes have gone include the International Criminal Court in The Hague Germany to study immigration into the EU social movements in Havana religious diversity in Israel and many other places as well. We also have university exchanges of course with and Carleton has agreements with over 175 universities around the world and we have an e-volunteering course also this is a course where students work through Skype from here in Ottawa with local groups overseas on development projects so if you want to ask me more questions about that please feel free and we do have provisions in place right now when we are all locked down for because of the pandemic so please ask questions about that. There's also a language requirement the fourth element of the program two credits of language courses taken in your first and second year it can be a language of your choice any language that Carleton offers including American Sign Language if you wish we feel that that's an important part of being a global person and an analyst of international affairs so in terms of the first year experience one of the good things about this program I think is that unlike a lot of other units our courses our first year courses have around 100 students in them which allows you to get to know these students and you're going through your core courses with the same students throughout so you do get to form a fairly cohesive cohort over time. We have a very active student society that organizes a number of events throughout the year including first year social exam destresser coffee houses embassy tours around Ottawa networking nights with Ottawa based professionals annual charity gala and a number of other kinds of events in terms of what your first year would look like in this program you take three core courses in the gins global history international law and politics ethnography globalization and culture then you would take two introductory level courses in a language of your course of your choice rather two introductory courses in your area specialization so let's say you chose international global law and social justice then you take laws 1001 and 1002 and that would leave you with three electives to take whatever you want to so um overall that's the program in a nutshell and I'm happy to take any questions that people may have. Yeah we actually have two questions that we want to maybe can answer the first one was about the international component so the students kind of mentioned that they they recognize everything that's happening obviously globally this year but they're looking forward to year three and they're wondering where have students gone so what are some of the places students have gone through the global international studies program. Right so basically they've been to every continent except Antarctica so far but a lot of students have gone to various African countries working on development projects Uganda Ethiopia South Africa Senegal are ones that come immediately to mind students have been to various places in Europe as well Spain working for international organizations Germany people have worked for the governments of Malta Russia Sweden Fiji China Kosovo the ones that come to mind once again off the top of my head and a lot of our students have gone to Central and South America as well to work on development projects in various countries there so basically anywhere you want to go we can basically set it up for him. Perfect and the next question was about the specialization so I think there are 18 specializations within the program. Do students have the ability to change specializations if they become interested in a different area? Yes they do we have staff available our advisors are there to help you make any kinds of changes you want and it's not uncommon to do so so we're well versed in how to make that happen so students can certainly change their specializations. Awesome well thank you for that Neil and again Neil will be available in the chat or in the Q&A to answer many more of your questions related to the Bachelor of Global and International Studies. The next person you're going to see on screen is Randy Boswell he is a member of our Bachelor of Journalism Department and he's going to tell you more about journalism at Carlton so Randy how are you? I'm good can you hear me fine? Yes I can. Okay good yeah my name is Randy Boswell I was a long time practicing journalist a newspaper reporter for many years and I've been teaching at the school for the last well 25 or so I guess I'm going to talk to you about sort of five key points I want to get across and then I'm happy to answer as many questions you have. One is that I want to make sure that my little signs are reaching you. There you go we can see it there yep okay this one says we're ready to teach um the point I want to make here is that you know the COVID-19 pandemic didn't stop us from completing our winter courses in March and April and we would be ready to teach tomorrow in an all online world even so we're working hard to improve and ready our technology in order to be as engaging and interesting as possible in the fall. I just want to say we have highly experienced and effective faculty top notch contract instructors from the world of journalism and communication all accomplished communicators by profession so we have state-of-the-art technology across all media and platforms video audio digital text and photo and we're getting that ready for the fall. Ultimately learning how to do journalism actually doesn't take a ton of technology I think you've got one of these probably it's a smartphone you've probably got one of these it's a laptop computer you probably got one of these a pad and paper and a pen that's a lot of what you need to start learning to become a journalist so it's not that complicated. Second point I want to make I'm glad to succeed. They learn how to create content delivered effectively to audiences every possible way from traditional channels to social media from print to podcasts the best measure of our success as a university program is the success of our graduates. Turn on your radio and our graduates are delivering the latest news and hosting local regional and national programs. Turn on your TV and our alumni are reporting from across Canada and around the world working as writers and producers behind the scenes interviewing premiers and prime ministers about the COVID crisis they're everywhere interviewing business leaders and sports stars celebrities and ordinary people. Open a newspaper or a digital news site our graduates are there as well covering major events and issues editing prominent publications building and engaging with audiences around the globe and J school graduates succeed in many fields beyond journalism from public relations and public policy to education and entrepreneurship. Next we offer a journalism plus advantage a lot of the programs that Carleton do in the sense that you combine your discipline with other fields of specialization and we were Canada's first journalism school we're Canada's best known journalism school and this year we're actually celebrating our 75th anniversary you can still see me there okay good I was frozen for a second from the very beginning our philosophy has been that you should not only be trained in the fundamentals of journalism but also in a range of other subjects with a specialization in particular in one. We believe in graduating well-rounded students and we know that they benefit from this long-standing approach the specialization can take the form of a minor or a major and I can get into that through questions. Next important message we're a relatively small program with relatively small classes even our first-year classes which all of the incoming students attend together whether in the lecture theater or online this fall we'll number just over a hundred and in the years that follow our hands-on roll up your sleeves workshop classes where students learn the tools of the trade often work on actual news sites reaching real-world audiences typically gather about 20 students at a time a little bit more sometimes so you get to know your instructors on a first-name basis you learn from us in more formal classroom settings but you also learn that it's okay to swing by my office shoot the breeze about what's happening in the world of journalism or the world in general and whether or not the senators or the Leafs are likely to make the Stanley Cup playoffs that kind of thing. Our students are also experts at creating a sense of community at the J School so we have a journalism society that gathers students together for social events for mentoring for networking in the career etc and you know I just want example of the kind of community cohesion that we have you know when this whole pandemic unfolded you know one of the things the school of journalism did was hustle to try and arrange some funding so that a number of our students a good number of our students could actually work this summer on the on the flagship publication of the school of journalism so we're in process right now of hiring about 20 students who are going to be you know producing journalism over this summer and having it published on our school publication called capital current check it out and finally this is really reinforcing some messages that Andre and others have already articulated but this says I get it right Carleton's campus and Canada's capital are awesome you may not be coming to Carleton physically in September but you'll be getting here eventually it's a beautiful campus set off from the busier parts of the city surrounded by water and green spaces and Ottawa itself for those of you who don't already live here is a is a fairly small city easy to get around and we have enormous advantages as capital as Canada capital which are especially attractive if you're here to study journalism our students get to observe and report on the workings of parliament and the supreme court I think as Andre mentioned earlier the dean we can visit and produce stories about what's happening in a whole range of national museums galleries national research institutes and apart from all that this is a cool city in terms of its mix of vibrant communities businesses the arts recreation and nature between Carleton's campus and Canada's capital this is a really great place to spend four years of your life ask away if you have any questions yeah I love that message Randy and one of the things that I noticed when we were kind of at the beginning of this pandemic was some of the work that your students were able to do related to COVID-19 I know there was an article written about the impacts of COVID on religious organizations and churches as they converted to the kind of online virtual spaces so maybe one of these you could again mention is the idea of the skills and how transferable these skills that our students are getting are to not only the journalism world but to other avenues as well yeah sure I mean you know one of the things that we emphasize is that we're you know we're educating you know future journalists but the skills that you get here are you know across a broad range of technologies and it's also conceptual too you learn how to tell a story you learn how to observe and gather information in the world these are skills that are of value outside the traditional news business that many of us you know were employed in for many years many centuries it's actually you know a good skill set for a number of government jobs at various levels in terms of research and communication non-government organizations there are lots of our graduates who end up doing advocacy work on environmental issues or social issues there are any number of fields in terms of you know public policy research and so forth where our students you know take the skills that they've learned in journalism and apply them elsewhere awesome well thank you for that Randy and again folks if you have any questions about our Bachelor of Journalism Randy is available to answer those questions through our Q&A I shall also remind you if you are just tuning in thank you for for checking us out we are spotlighting our Faculty of Public Affairs and the next program you're going to hear from is the newest program or degree to to join the public affairs family the Bachelor of Media Production and Design and you're going to hear from Chris Waddell who is not only a really great member of our community but also a longtime Toronto Maple Leafs fan so Chris thank you for that long time support and looking forward to hearing what we have to say about the program itself so you want to press the on you button and the floor will be yours thanks Tony I was going to remind you that I was actually alive when the Leafs last won the Stanley Cup but but there you go yes thanks very much I'm Chris Waddell I'm the director of the media production and design program it is as Stanley noted a new program at Carleton we're just starting our third year and it's going to be a really exciting year for a for a couple of reasons I'll tell you about in a minute or two we operate within the School of Journalism and Communication and the program is designed for people who are interested in in acquiring both the editorial side and also some of the programming and design side to produce online online in packages of online information so that could be almost anything you could do online that might show up on a computer screen might show up on a website might show up on a mobile device and it could be for almost anyone for for corporations for in the healthcare sector for people who are doing anything in the way of government relations as well government departments educational institutions almost anybody new media companies and news organizations that want to put things online we in the course of the four years you you take 12 credits that are compulsory and you've got eight credits of things you can choose you that you want to do some of our students are doing a minor at our business school the minor on entrepreneurship at the Sprott School of Business we also have a fair number of students who are taking a minor in film studies as well that seems very popular with our students but during the four years you take some courses with they're just designed for media production and design students you take some courses when you're taught by the School of Information Technology and you're in with information technology students and you take some courses with journalism students so you're in with journalism students in first year you do you do a couple of courses with information and technology a course on introduction to web development another course on introduction the interactive multimedia design and then an introduction to programming whereas the media production design courses you take are one on introduction to storytelling in the fall term and then in the winter term you get into the fall term is mostly about about theory and the winter term is more about practice where you get to actually do things and we take in about 60 students a year to to to get into the program you need to have a grade 12 english and also grade 12 math it can be advanced functions calculus or data management at the moment we have 29 people who are coming this fall we who've indicated already they're coming and that's just where we were last year at this point too in our recruiting site so we're right on pace to where we were last year our first year class is generally made up of mostly grade 12 students but we found a lot of interest students transferring from other programs into the program so the last two years we've had about 10 or 11 students transferred from other degree programs into the program because it's a new program and we also have quite a few international students as well up to 12 14 15 of them that's been our experience the last couple of years anyway so we'll see what happens this year I said this was going to be a particularly interesting and exciting year for us because because of several things our third year students students who came to Carlton in the fall of 2018 of the class of about 25 or 26 of them eight of them are going out on a co-op placement in January that's our first co-op placement they'll be off for a year working with various organizations or media companies production houses who may actually do produce online packages of information for anybody who might need it may be working with communications companies, museums, the Parliament of Canada is interested in taking some of our students as well and as I think might be the interactive multimedia studio that the architecture department at Carlton actually runs so having our first students go out on placements is great and the co-op office will find placements for you or if you are interested in a placement back home wherever you're from we can work we can work with whoever that might be back wherever you you're from if you're outside Ottawa to find a placement for you for if you get this if you want to take co-op in third year the other reason that's interesting is that the last two years our students have been working a fair amount of time out with organizations in the Ottawa area and and this year now for the first time our second year class has produced a lot of material that's available online I'll post it I'll post the link on the Q&A site so you can have a look if you're interested they were working with the National Arts Center this year and the National Arts Center is the big theater and music music hall in Ottawa was built as a centennial project in 1967 actually it's finished in 1970 so it's having its 50th year this year and and what our students did work in in the winter term they worked with the NAC to produce a whole bunch of online packages of information that are highlighting some of the art that's at the NAC so that's the various projects they've done some are audio some are visual some are some are mostly writing in the program you take all those things you do video you do photography you do audio you work with the 360 cameras we're also starting into a augmented reality and virtual reality and then you're also doing some of the work on the design side as well our first year students though at the past two years they worked with the Museum of Nature in Ottawa to work on on developing ideas for how you can take some of the exhibits that are at the Museum of Nature and turn them into online exhibits so you can give people who can't get to Ottawa an opportunity to have some of the experiences that you would actually have if you were in the museum and touring some of the exhibits at the museum so I'll post the second year students work on there on the on the Q&A site as soon as I finish speaking and I guess I'll just finish up by saying a couple of other things when students that come into the program in June we send out a letter to everyone that will welcome you all and and will also give you some indication of the technology that you might want to have in order to come participate in the program but for more the more complicated things you're doing on the programming and information technology side our School of Information Technology has large computer labs and we have all the have all the specialized programming that you actually need to do some of that work so you can do the work in the lab but there's a fair amount of things you can do that home as well we also and in then in September we of course run an orientation where we talk about a little bit about what you're going to see in the year ahead and we'll also have an opportunity to speak to some of our first and our second and third year students to you can get some of their impressions about what the program was actually like so the one last thing I should say is that although we want to take in about 60 students a year we split that into much smaller groups in a lot of cases for instance in both first year and second year you do the introduction to storytelling course in first year where everyone's together in the fall term and in the winter term we're split up into smaller workshops where the workshop classes are only about 30 students maximum our visual story introduction to visual communication in second year workshops of 30 classes too so in some cases you're working with small groups of students but you do have a few larger courses that you take students courses with a journalism class on media law and take some upper year courses with some journalism students on freelancing and on the state of the media and some of those issues as well and and an ethics course you're taking with journalism students too so by the time you finish the four years you've got the skills to do both the editorial side and some of the programming and design side for online presentations and also how to chance to do something else as well if there's another area of interest that interests you so that's probably as good as anything for the moment Stanley happy to answer any questions awesome yeah there are there are two questions I want you to touch on if sure one was just asking about the difference between media production design and communication in media studies so if you had like a like a one line or what would be that like I guess that that's key kind of a difference that you would highlight I think the key difference would be we're a lot smaller program for one thing because we're starting out but we're also much more of a hands-on program and that you're doing sort of things you're producing material all the way through right starting from first year you're learning things in the classroom but you're also getting opportunities to apply apply them and turn them out into projects and that we're out working in the in the in the field with with various organizations around the city and across the country as well communications and media studies is more more I would say a little more of a traditional academic program I think one of the answers earlier was that there is some of the hands-on material in the in the upper years but but it's much much more intensive hands-on I would say in media production and design and then that answer kind of feeds into our next question which is about the programming side of the MPD so this is about the digital storytelling and photography but not being as interested in the programming side so how much of the program is programming focused the programming focuses in the first really in the first couple of years you have courses in first year if you go on the website I can give you the link to that too you can see a course a course a program map that shows you what courses you're taking in each year and it also shows you where who you're taking them with so for instance you every year you do about two and a half to three credits in the program which are the compulsory courses you need in first and second year about you have about two credits in first year and one credit in second year and then a half after that so the programming part that's compulsory declines as you get into the upper years of the program but in the first year you're in programming courses with students who are in several inter information technology core programs which is interactive multimedia design networking pro photonics just the basic courses there so but you also will have the option in upper years to take more some of those as electives if you want to do that too perfect thank you so much Chris and thank you all for those questions and please keep those questions coming Chris will be online to answer them through the Q&A and I'll post the link to our second year students work right now perfect thank you so our next degree program is the bachelor of public affairs and policy management and I'd like to ask Lisa to tell us a bit more about that program hi everyone thank you so much for watching today oh and yes my mic is unmuted you're perfect yeah good I'm getting a message to unmute my mic but it is unmuted so thank you so much for being here today I'm Lisa Mills I'm the director of the public affairs and policy management program and I want to say first of all that I cannot think of a better time to be studying public policy than right now what is happening right now is that every day there are public policy decisions being made so there are decisions being made about what can open and what has to remain closed there are decisions about how much support to provide students over the next couple of months there's decisions about which businesses should receive financial support in the form of loans or grants there are decisions about the emergency benefits payments every day there are critical public policy decisions being made about how to deal with this pandemic and these public policy decisions are being made in the present um to deal with the absolutely critical situation we're facing but in the next few years we're going to need to think about okay even broader and more structural kinds of changes uh to deal with the the fallout from um from COVID so our degree is really designed to prepare you to contribute to the debates and the policies and the decisions that are going to be made um in the next few years and for the rest of your lives about how to deal with this very changed world that we have in fact um one of our alumni Joe Cressy is actually very involved with this right now he's the chair of the Toronto Board of Public Health so every day right now one of our graduates is making decisions about how to deal with the effects of COVID in Toronto um so to tell you a little bit more about the degree itself it's a limited enrollment degree program what that means is that it's small okay so we had 80 students who were enrolled last year and so we hope we aim for a number of less than 100 to join our program this means that you have the experience of being with a small cohort and you get to go through um the central part the foundational part of the program with that cohort and that cohort usually students who are fantastic students who are very keen who are very keen on public policy really committed um interesting wonderful young people now what the what the program does is we aim to give you a uh an in-depth examination of public policy so there's a core series of courses about public policy issues um and then we also have an interdisciplinary interdisciplinary courses in history in economics in law and legal studies in politics in public administration and those courses actually give you a broader understanding of the context in which policy takes place and give you an understanding of some of the um the techniques and the background that you need to know about in order to contribute to to public policy um after first year so your first year everyone goes through the first year together and then after the first year you have four specializations to choose from the first specialization is communications and technology policy another specialization is international policy international policy studies third specialization development policy studies and the fourth is public policy and administration and that's to do with public policy mainly within canada and so if you have a particular interest in policy in the international arena or in studying um policies with regard to developing countries or poorer countries or disadvantaged communities within canada um you would do development policy studies if you are interested in um in communication and technology policy the implication of all the technologies that we're even more reliant on at the moment then you would choose that specialization if you're interested in aspects of canadian policy environmental policy in canada indigenous policy um social policy housing health um you would choose the public policy and administration specialization um we also have a co-op program uh so if you want to get experience in working in public policy the co-op program is an excellent opportunity to do that in terms of the kind of careers that people pick up after doing this degree um some people go directly into politics they become city councillors they become nps other people work as policy analysts for government other people work for think tanks uh so we have um people who work for the matri foundation or the broadbed institute doing research on policy um and other people go on to law school or masters in public health masters in public administration so there are many um interesting options to contribute to policy as a result of this degree and um it's working in policy is really important especially at the moment uh so i will leave it there in case there are any questions thank you for that uh lisa and i i should mention uh i am the carleton page liason and a lot of our um house of commons pages uh end up studying in the public affairs and policy management programs maybe can uh elaborate a bit more on uh those connections to problem in health and how that's used to really enhance the academic experience yeah um so we usually we usually have uh one or two people every year who are pages in the house of commons page program uh who are also in the pappin program so that means that um there's a really tight connection between the kind of work they're doing on parliament hill um where they're assisting members of parliament and getting to learn about the operation of parliament there's a really tight connection there between what they're doing and our and what they're learning in our degree so the two things really reinforce each other very nicely um because of our location in Ottawa and now obviously things will be a little bit different this year because we're going to be learning online but um because of our location in Ottawa what one of the things that we do is we go to parliament and we hear from parliament we hear you know from people working there in the building um about how parliament works um we also go to the supreme court of Canada we bring policy analysts and advisors working for government um into the classroom to talk about the kind of work that they're doing uh you have the opportunity to work um on your co-op as um a junior policy analyst or to work in a non-governmental organization um like the United Nations Association of Canada or the World University Society of Canada um so you have the opportunity to work uh gain experience in international fields as well as in Canadian public policy throughout Korea. Awesome now there was a couple questions about specialization so we can ask for those before we let you go um the one question was about changing specializations can you change your specialization after your first year and the other question was if you are in a specialization are you still able to learn about other areas uh that are not necessarily related to that specific um topic uh within your degree? Absolutely so you choose your specialization in your second year not your first so your first year gives you an opportunity to um learn some history some economics public policy indigenous studies and from that hopefully you'll be able to say okay I know what specialization I want to go in and you pick that in second year but if in second year or even in third year you decide you know what this specialization really isn't to me I should have done another one no no loss there you can switch specializations that that is certainly possible and um while you're doing your specialization um you will also have the opportunity to do courses particularly in your second year you'll still be doing um courses that are broader than your specialization so you will still be doing courses that are core to the public affairs and policy management program and you would still be doing say um courses in law and legal studies about the constitution for example which is pretty critical if you're working in public policy um or you might do um you might do uh continue with history courses or economics courses depending on which specialization you're in um so what we we try and get a balance between depth and breadth in our program so we try and give you depth in a bit in a specialization but also breadth in terms of having an what's called interdisciplinary experience doing courses from different disciplines um and courses that will give you context uh for studying public policy awesome and yeah and was there another question there that I missed January not for the moment but there may be some more questions coming up so definitely uh folks keep asking those questions about public affairs and policy management to Lisa and she'll definitely answer those questions in the q and a so thank you so much for that awesome update and uh the next program we're going to feature is our thank you is our bachelor of social work with Dennis so Dennis uh the floor or the screen is yours great um thank you everybody can you hear me I can yeah okay thank you everybody for hanging in there um and participating um I'm actually intrigued by many of the programs I might go back to school eventually to get another degree uh so I'm here to talk about social work the bachelor of social work program at the school of social work um I'm a faculty member associate professor with the school and also the BSW program supervisor so I kind of oversee the the entire program um so I just wanted to kind of briefly talk a little bit about what social work is and kind of where our program kind of fits into that um we're often referred to as the helping profession um but what that means and how we help people can can mean a broad number of different things um and so you might find social workers engage with a broad range of issues and populations including some of our most vulnerable populations in our society including children experiencing abuse the homeless low income individuals with mental health or substance abuse problems etc you also find social workers working with these different issues and populations at different levels um working with them 101 at the individual level working at the community level or even at the policy levels uh they do this in a number of different ways including individual 101 counseling doing policy work being engaged in community development and practice managing organizations or programs conducting research etc many social workers work either in nonprofits hospitals or clinics social services or government agencies etc some even open their own practice private practice and I know colleagues who are working in the private sector you know either in human resources or things like that um I think one thing about the bachelor's social work it's a professional degree that um basically positions you to enter the social work profession um so in the in the in the province of Ontario a social work degree is required if you want to be called a social work a social worker and so our program trains you to become professional social workers um as a profession social workers are governed by a set of values and so one of our key values is a commitment to social justice and equity and so as we're helping people at an individual level or a community or policy level you know it's all within a framework of social justice and a commitment to creating social change our program currently has 366 students um split across the four years our program is basically split between in halves well first half is kind of foundational where you're you're taking more foundational courses um to kind of provide you the theoretical the practice foundations and then the second half is kind of what we call our advanced program where you you begin to just kind of more specialize so if you want to work with individuals specifically you would be taking courses specifically on that if there's um and there's also an opportunity to take courses um doing social work with specific populations like such as indigenous peoples racialized communities persons with disabilities etc in the third and fourth year also one of the requirements is that you'll be doing a practicum each year and so we have a requirement of two practicums that basically puts you out in the field and the purpose of those is really to kind of link the theory and the knowledge and the kind of the practice skills that you're learning in the class and really trying to um apply them in the field and um hopefully the practicum plus the courses provided mechanism for you to link theory with practice so our goal really as a program is to create an environment or space where you can develop your knowledge and skills academically practically as well as professionally um our main goal is to prepare students to be competent accountable social workers and advocates of progressive social change and I think that's it that's all I had um yeah enough for questions yeah I actually had I have one thing I want to add on there is um it's something that we hear a lot about when we chat with um with your department which is the structural approach so maybe then you can talk a bit more about what that structural approach represents for our social work program and how does that make us kind of stand out from other BSW programs across the country right so one of the dominant frameworks in social work in Canada as well as in the US where I'm actually originally from is this notion of person and environment so even if we're working within individual children or individuals um dealing with grappling with mental health problems um as social workers we we have to take into account the environment that they come in that they live where they work etc because a number of different factors we believe such as environmental factors um policy factors etc um may have be factors and and may influence kind of their behaviors or their or the challenges that they're facing and so the structural approach is is structural theory theory of social work is is is a little more specific in thinking that there are systemic kind of factors that really that all of us are kind of grappling with um including policy policy factors including educational factors including legislative factors including environmental factors that really have a significant impact on our well-being and health and so and and we need to kind of understand that in order to really help people awesome thank you for that and there's a question here about uh internships so uh the student asked that the BSW program has or it says that the program has a lot of internships and and they were wondering when they'd be able to to go into the field so I know you touched a bit about on that in your update maybe talk a bit about what that looks like in terms of the practicum in year three and year four right and so those are the practicums that I was referring to in your third and fourth year and um you start really so for example for if you're third if you're doing a third year practicum you really have to start thinking about and preparing in in the semester before that in order and and our practicum staff and and faculty will help you link you to various organizations um part of the process is that you'll be doing an interview with the with the potential placement um where obviously they're trying to see if you're you're ready to do the practicum there as well as you want to see if it's a good fit for you as well as a student who wants who wants to learn about specific things um the fourth year practicum is really so the third year practicum is kind of a more generic um where you can kind of gain kind of general skills the fourth year practicum is really where hopefully you'll be able to find a placement and and our staff and faculty will help you do that a placement that really is is is kind of in your interest area or or specific to what you want to learn and kind of the skills and and experiences you want to gain as a student in your fourth year and so that's kind of how and and again for the fourth year practicum you have to really start thinking about and preparing for it and we have a process in a formal process where you that you go through the semester before you you intend to go into practice a practicum well great well thank you for that Venice appreciate the updates and again folks if there are any questions about the Bachelor of Social Work please go ahead and ask those questions in the Q&A so now the next program is the political science program and we're going to invite Vanna to say a few words about this major in the Bachelor of Arts degree great hi thank you very much and good afternoon thank you all for joining us today I'm Vanda Nabatia I'm an assistant professor in the Department of Political Science and I'm also the undergraduate supervisor for our undergraduate program and I'm really happy to be here today to tell you a little bit more about it so as people have already alluded to we know first hand that we're living in a pivotal time for politics in public life and it's clear that that the COVID pandemic will have profound long-lasting effects on the relationship between government and society effects that go beyond just dealing with the public health crisis which is a significant part of it of course but also you know posing challenging fundamental questions about human rights about governance about the nature of citizenship and democracy but even before COVID we were faced with global events and issues like terrorism or international security food security climate change mass migration and of course all of the long-standing domestic issues that need our attention as well relations with indigenous peoples the health of our population wealth poverty inequality among many many others so these are all complex problems and challenges as well as opportunities and they need fresh thinking and innovative solutions so that's where you and I come in if you're curious about the world that we live in if you want to learn more about it and if you want to help to influence what's to come and how we deal with some of these challenges then political science is the program for you our department's mission is to contribute to public life through our research and especially through our teaching so our goal is to cultivate graduates who are knowledgeable and curious about the world people who appreciate diverse perspectives and who are equipped and engaged as engaged and active citizens so how do we do this well Carleton has one of the largest departments of political science in Canada and so that means that we have a really diverse faculty with a wide range of teaching and research expertise and we provide a comprehensive range of courses and topics and programs of study for you to choose from over the first two years of our program all students get a strong foundation in the discipline and so we have a set of core mandatory courses that everyone takes these include introductory politics and international studies courses we have courses in political philosophy that are also required in research methods and in Canadian politics in your third and fourth year is when you can really begin to specialize or concentrate your studies in a particular area our third and fourth year classes are smaller our third year classes about anywhere between 50 and 65 students and our fourth year seminars are capped at about 25 students so you really have an opportunity to engage get into discussions do hands-on work in in your classes so once you reach your third and fourth year you have an opportunity to to focus on a specialization in one of eight of our concentrations that we offer in areas such as Canadian politics gender studies political theory public policy international relations you can also focus on particular regions of the world and so African studies North American politics European and Russian studies for example and you can also develop your own path by choosing courses from a variety of fields that are tailored to your interests so for example you could take courses in human rights and individual liberty you could study globalization in terms of development wealth and poverty we have a variety of courses that focus focus on global politics of migration so you could you know take a different a range of courses that kind of develop your interest in that area and we also have a lot of expertise in development studies and the global south so those are some of the ways that you can actually tailor the program to what you're interested in what kind of you know career prospects you you want to pursue and so you know you can really tailor it or you can delve deep into a particular area of specialization and and because we have the breadth of courses and faculty members to teach them it gives you lots of options to work with and because we're in the nation's capital we also have a lot of guest speakers and lectures from officials and government from embassies from international and national organizations that come onto campus that come into the classrooms some of them often teach some of our courses as well and a number of our courses include experiential opportunities simulations case studies and even field trips so for example in our course on the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms students observe a live hearing at the supreme court in our global environmental politics class students have the option of doing a three-day field trip out to Lake Tomogamy in northern Ontario so you can see the full range of courses that we offer and even have a look at some of the course syllabi for for those courses on our website and they're always there so you can just you know have a look at them download one or two and you'll get a sense of you know the topics that the kind of work that you'll be doing the kind of questions that you'll be looking into and you'll get a much better feel for the program that way as well so over the course of the program if you're an honor student you'll take a total of nine credits in our department and then additional 11 credits as electives in other departments and faculties in our three-year program students will do six credits in political science and and another seven as electives in in our program honor students are also expected to be proficient in a language other than English so if you don't already speak a second language you can take language courses as part of your free electives if you're going to specialize in Canadian politics French has to be your second language in all of the other areas it can be any other language that you choose we also have opportunities for students to get credits for internships that you can do as well as co-op so we have a co-op stream in our program as well all of which count towards your your degree requirements I can talk a little bit about some of the first year courses the core courses that all all political science students take in our first year we have a course on democracy in theory and practice and this course introduces students to basic modern political ideas such as liberty equality the rule of law representation political participation and how these ideas play out and affect politics and policy making in Canada as well as other countries around the world we also have an introduction to world politics course at the first year level and this course looks at politics in countries and regions around the world looking at historical trends and current issues and you know you explore different types of political institutions and political cultures and look at global issues policies and politics as well as international relations between states between international organizations and other actors we have a couple of first year courses that are sort of that span a number of different disciplinary areas as well as as as well as fields so we have a course on technology nature and power and this is a course that looks at how technologies like social media self-driving cars genetic manipulation how these kinds of technologies have transformed the human experience as well as the natural world so the course focuses on technological changes and how they've interacted with the social and political order and how they've transformed our environment we have a course on the politics of migration and this course introduces students to concepts and theories that help to understand and explain some of the con complex patterns of migration that we see including some of the social and political relevance of different types of migration and how they affect Canada as well as other regions around the world and the politics and then the political responses to some of those trends we also have three in the fall we're going to have three first year seminars which Dean Plurid mentioned earlier and these seminars are small classes that give you an opportunity to delve really deeply into a particular subject get some hands-on experience and perhaps even do some research and writing on on these topics I can talk a lot more about internships and co-op and experiential learning but I'll leave that for the questions and I'll just stop here for now and see what you know what you're interested in exploring further so thank you. Sure thank you for that amazing update and before we let you go I really want to try to get this question in because the student says that they are coming to Carleton for sure and that PoliSci is their dream program so there you go and their question was about their experience volunteering in their MP's office a member of Parliament's office and I wondered if that would count towards an internship or or a co-op experience or something like that so you can briefly kind of mention how that would play out within their degree. Yes so we do have a lot of students that either volunteer or do internships with politicians on the hill so that is certainly possible we have an internship credit that is part time it's a part time internship so three to six hours a week while you're doing your other coursework and that's something that you can certainly sort of carve out a particular project that you've worked on in the internship while you're actually doing your other coursework as well there's also the opportunity to do full-time internships over a full term in the summertime or even in a regular academic term in the fall or winter so those are things that we definitely can accommodate and can also fit into the co-op so perfect awesome well thank you so much Vanda for that update and again folks you have any questions about political science please go ahead and ask them in the Q&A. Our next program is our Bachelor of Arts degree majoring in law so our law program will be spotlighted now and like that Zaina had to give us an update on law. Thanks Denly, thanks everyone for joining us so my name is Zaina Bouzegh I am one of the instructors at the department of law and legal studies I'm also the undergraduate supervisor I teach mostly in second third and fourth year it really depends on the year so I'll probably meet you somewhere along the path of your degree I just want to spend a little bit of time talking about our program and just telling you a little bit about it and your options part of my role as undergraduate supervisor is really thinking about your experience in the program what benefits you what courses you might be interested in taking and also helping you think about your career planning whether you plan to go to law school in the future or grad school or maybe even want to join the workplace right after you finish your degree so I'm always happy to chat about your career options our program the law and legal studies program is an interdisciplinary program it examines how the law shapes and is shaped by political economic social and cultural forces we are absolutely going to study what the law is there's been a flurry of legislation out from government recently so we're going to look at all the legislation all the cases that are coming from the courts but we want to push you to start to critically analyze and solve legal problems on your own so we want you to think creatively about what the law should be what the law should say and we want you to start to draw your own conclusions and we want you to think about how you come at problems in the legal arena by looking at the other opinions out there and learning how to think around those points of you when you join our department you're going to be joining Canada's largest law and legal studies program we have we just celebrated our 50th anniversary a couple of years ago and our approach to the law is a really diverse unique approach to the law and so you're going to meet over 35 faculty members with very different research academic and work experiences we offer about 70 courses each year and again that's by far the most course options that you're going to have in any law and legal studies program you have the options of taking a huge variety of courses i'll just give you a few options that might interest you as for example if you're interested in criminal law we have courses on sentencing policing criminal justice reform drugs and states criminal jury trials if your interest is more in the business law field we've got courses on international trade regulation banking law regulation of corporate crime intellectual property employment and labor law if you're interested in human rights we have courses on equality and discrimination immigration and refugee law freedom of expression the law of armed conflict and of course we have another set of courses in many areas of law so for example constitutional law environmental law aboriginal justice family law health law so again we really do specialize in many of these areas every year we run a series of special topics courses that offer a unique opportunity to examine an area of law that we don't traditionally focus on so for example this year we had a course on ocean challenges and international law another course on wrongful convictions this year coming up we're going to have a course on sports and the law we offer three concentrations business law concentration the law policy and government concentration and transnational law and human rights these concentrations give you an opportunity to really focus a little bit more on the courses that you want to take related to that particular field we have a co-op option with business law concentration and the law policy government concentration and of course you have the option there of working in many organizations around Ottawa you've probably already heard about the international exchange opportunities but there are I think now over 175 partner institutions with Carleton several of those are law schools so many of our students have gone on to do credits at US UK and law schools in Australia in particular just recently we signed an agreement with a law school in Brussels and so we're really excited about that opportunity because it gives students to also complete an internship while they're there which is a really unique opportunity there are opportunities for some of our fourth year students to work as research assistants for professors and help them do their own research and get course credit for that there's an opportunity for us to help our students with their publication of some of their fourth year papers there are work placement opportunities as well again for our fourth year students to work in a law related field many of our students some that I supervised this year worked at the various law firms around Ottawa some of them also worked in law enforcement so one in particular was with the RCMP's trafficking unit others worked in local businesses that were looking for legal analysts and then finally there's a really active student organization the Carleton Law and Legal Study Students Society they are run by our students it is a huge organization they put on social events every year and they also run information sessions about law schools and law school preparation they also visit some of the law schools around Canada so it's a really good opportunity to get to know your peers I think I'll stop there Stanley if there are any questions yeah there are there are a couple of questions in here so first there was a question about the number of law classes that a student would take in year one so how many law courses are required in year one yes so in your first year you're going to take our two introduction to legal studies courses one in the fall and one in the winter these are an overview of law in general so we will talk about some issues in criminal law in business and private law and things like contracts we'll look at social justice issues in human rights we'll focus in on Aboriginal justice concerns we'll do a little bit of legal theory and we'll talk about the constitutional issues so that'll be split up over the two classes that you'll take in first year and then another question that came up I think after they heard you speak of all the different areas that students can study in the question was about being able to tackle more than one so can you pick more than one area of law to study throughout your degree yeah absolutely so you have the option of enrolling in one of these concentrations so if you are really interested in business law and you know that's the area you want to focus in on of course you can enroll in that concentration and that allows you to target those courses but for the majority of our students they are not enrolled in a concentration they prefer to do an overview of many areas of law so once you enter third and fourth year those options of what courses you can take really open up so if you have some interest in business law you can take that course but if you want to look at a course in environmental law you can take those courses as well so it's really open to you at that point to kind of pick and choose from the areas of law that you want to focus on the program is very broad in the course offerings but if you want to narrow it down to an area that interests you you also have that option awesome great well thank you Zana for that great update and again folks if there are more questions about our law program we will still be able to answer those questions through the q&a so please send those questions to us thanks everyone thank you so our next area is going to be our bachelor of arts degree majoring in European and Russian studies and I'd like to ask Jeff to say a few words about this awesome program thanks then and thanks to all of you who are who have stuck around I know it's been a really fascinating conversation with all these different programs I'm really excited to follow upon them and give you a sense of what our program is like and why you should really be fascinated by Europe and Russia and I would follow my colleagues and saying this is a challenging time for all of us but a really fascinating transition and it's never been more pertinent to really understand things like the European Union and what's going to happen to it is it even going to survive this crisis and certainly not in the form that it had a few months ago those of us who are looking at Russia were thinking of Putin running for our next and running indefinitely to be president until 2036 and now all of a sudden he's lost control it seems of the covid crisis in the country so there's just so many fascinating things to think about when you're looking at Europe and Russia and for our bachelor's program we have a standalone bachelor of arts and we have a stream in the bachelor and global international studies and really for both of them the key to think about is these are really interdisciplinary programs and they give you a sense to to focus in on different areas that you want to look at and that can be regional if you're interested in Russia you're interested in France you're interested in Azerbaijan Italy Germany the Balkans you can look at the history of the region politics economics culture and we have courses that focus in both regionally and focus in as well thematically anything from literature to transitional economics and these kinds of issues and so really getting to know what's out there in terms of being an Ottawa for our capital advantage to I think is critical to our program because we have so many fascinating connections to embassies to government departments and we have a number of students who go to global affairs Canada who go out to national defense now we're hiring a lot of our graduates we also have events that are held in embassies embassies who come to us we have not only the co-op program which a number of other units have talked about but we have our own standalone internship program which is actually built into a class so you learn career building school skills you can do internships in NGOs um Red Cross international international organization for migration NGO called SECDEV which works on cyber security in Russia or basically protecting us from Russia in some different cases too you can look at government departments you can look at serving staff and an embassy so it's really a fun program to think about all the opportunities even as you're a student and certainly even when you come in the first year or two it's a cozy program it's fairly small you get to know faculty very well we have a nice space in the river building our Richcraft Halls it's called now overlooks the river you get a chance to hang out in our in our office space talk to our professors really fascinating to hear what you have to say the study abroad programs is another really fascinating opportunity that you get and of course through Carlton International you can go to St. Petersburg you can go to Italy to Germany to France England all these different kinds of regions and with our alumni connections and it's a really nice thing about our our unit because it's small our alumni are very dedicated to our students and they love to help out we're able to position people to truly really find out who's living in these particular cities who can help you out a lot of our students work abroad in Europe and Russia if as students who've gone over there as journalists gone over there to just they start by teaching a language they start by just going and seeing what kind of opportunities are out there they get involved in NGO work humanitarian work but a lot of our students will end up in Ottawa in global affairs Canada in national defense many of them go on to law degrees it's a great degree to get a good interdisciplinary background to go into law or into master's programs and eventually into PhDs for some of you guys who are interested in continuing the academic track as well but I'd say also it's just it's a program where you can have a lot of fun it's it's a program where there's so many events going on on campus in Ottawa and we really make sure to connect students to alumni who they might be interested in there's a real sense of communication and excitement among the students because they're finally here to do something that they love and they might be the one weird kid in their high school class who loves Russia all of a sudden they get here and there's a whole bunch of other kids as well who are just fascinated it could be culture it could be literature it could be politics it's really something that brings a lot of students together and allows them to explore their passions I would say too that in in terms of the faculty there's such a great variety of people who work on anything from migration history to pluralism and how people get along in inter-ethnic settings to agricultural economics and really I think you can come here and then discover what you like to do and sometimes you don't really have a sense when you come out of high school you have a vague idea that you like something about Europe maybe you travel there but you don't really know and we'll have it you'll get a chance to really explore all these different kinds of opportunities and the last thing I would just say again we're running we're running later I could talk all day but I'll just talk about languages because that's a really critical part of not just our program but in terms of getting employment skills and also in terms of just going to communicate with other people and getting to expand your knowledge of the world so our program has language requirements both in the begin stream and in the da stream really pushes you out to learn a language from French to German Italian Russian we'll give you assistance to do that we have our own alumni who come back and help to learn languages and I think by the time you get out if you come up with the language you come up with these interdisciplinary skills you really have a choice of different types of career paths that you can take from government to NGO private sector consulting risk management is another place that a lot of our students are finding work in now and then your your your pick of graduate programs including rma program as you continue on so the world is really open to you and whether you're fascinated by Europe and Russia in particular or whether you want interdisciplinary program that's sort of grounded in a region and you haven't really found your way yet it's an exciting thing to to be looking at to be thinking about and just take our courses too it's some of you who are interested we have a Eurus 1000 level course introduction to Europe and Russian in the world 2000 and 3000 level courses which are based in politics and literature and then all the other courses we have that are reaching our thematic but I'll stop there and see if Stan has anything for me. No that's great and actually your the last part there feeds into the question we have which is about graduate opportunities and how the program sets students up for for those opportunities so maybe you can touch on some of the different kind of graduate programs that students have gravitated towards after completing their their bachelors of arts in European Russian studies. Sure you have a great question and really again because we're an interdisciplinary program students can be trained broadly and they can either hone in on something they found in their undergraduate degree if they really find their fascinating history for example they go on and specialize in that for their masters or political science but other students who more have a thematic interest they can look at programs in migration studies they can look at programs in in more broadly international affairs international economics or something like that a number of students have gone and gone to Europe some of our students have gone to do journalism we also have our our own MA in European and Russian European Russian and Eurasian studies is called which is another great path too so we really when students get to their third year just start to talk about talk to them about what they're thinking about not pressuring them in any way but saying you know these are some of the kinds of things our alumni do and put them in touch with the alumni who've gone on these MA's or gone on to the the PhDs or law schools or working world and they get to get to chat with them really think about what they're excited about I mean the first question I always ask students is really what do you want to do what is really gets you excited and then we'll help them find an MA program that matches. Awesome now there was a question that came up about double majoring so this student finds that European Russian studies it sounds really interesting but they also have an interest in law so what's the possibility of combining kind of those two areas or other areas with European and Russian studies. Yeah it's actually pretty frequent and exactly for the reason that that you might think right students have an interest in Europe and Russia as a region but also have a particular disciplinary interest so we've had students do double majors in Juris in law, Juris in political science, Juris in history, Juris in English so if they're interested in literature and there is definitely a method to do that and we have a really strong advising culture here we really get students close to their faculty members and we can make sure they keep on track to really follow what they want to pursue. Perfect we'll leave that that's thank you Jeff for that awesome update and and folks if you do have any questions for Jeff or for anyone of the programs you heard of today please do use the Q&A we'll keep the Q&A open for the next few minutes so definitely get your questions in at this time so thank you so much Jeff again for for that update. Thanks Dan. All right so we are now at the the end of the live portion of today's event and I gotta tell you again it was a really great time for for me to to look back at reminisce on the program that I came out of and the faculty that I graduated from and also to give you guys a glimpse into what your future is going to look like on our campus at our school and in your specific program of interest. Now our webinar series can will continue tomorrow or we're going to be touching base with our faculty of arts and social sciences and you'll hear more about that by visiting our website missions.crawlton.ca and visit the CU at home page you'll also find information on other webinars are going to be happening over the next couple of weeks we have our resource week happening next week so we'll touch base with our financial aid office our student experience office department and center and other areas too so definitely look out for that and if there are any questions at all after today's session please go on to our instagram our twitter our facebook and of course our admissions website admissions.crawlton.ca and make sure you send us those questions we're here to help you and to make sure that you are feeling good about your post-secondary future so thank you so much the next time you'll see me on line will be next Tuesday for episode three of the Talking Raven so hopefully we will see you there my name is Stanley Philippe and we will see you soon