Ooh, baby, you got these big old jeans on.  She went to the Walgreens. Yeah, I came to pick up my jeans.  I better stop crying.  It looked like it's going to never stop coming.  So it's like, in whatever you watch it.  If I were to hand it over, I'm going to tell you.  I'm talking about, like, this. No, like, real.  It ain't matter. It ain't matter.  Like, real. What level? P.S., P.S., what were we talking about? Five. Probably seven. OK, that's what I'm saying. Like, it's got to be higher than that.     So it don't feel like the Oculus. Have you ever used the Oculus?   You ain't go for the face. Right, everybody gone.  This, you can look through your pictures, play music, watch movies, go on YouTube.  It's crazy. You can pick different backgrounds.  And it's in 3D. Nigga, I was sitting on a mountain last night. Just sitting there. And I look up, nigga.  Like, if you look over here, it ain't going to be the same image, just like a mirrored image.    But then you just hit a button, you can see out. Yes, it's literally that easy.  You know you're sitting on the couch, but if you put your hand down, nigga, you on the motherfucking moon. Can you see your hand? You can see your hand.  Man, it's the money. Man, we ain't talk real fingers. All right, bro.   It's better than that. It's better, OK. I'm sold. OK. I will be down there tomorrow to get mad. Because the thing I heard was it wasn't nothing to do.   I'll tell you that. I mean, you kind of selling it right now. How many they gave you one? They didn't give me one. That's free promo.  Tell them to send it. They don't want to watch the Pono act like I'm standing in the living room. That's what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying. That's through free. So you watch the Pono on the moon. If somebody come in, but you can't see what come in, so you just out. You can strip it.  Why you on the moon?     And you can FaceTime motherfuckers from the headset. I've seen a couple of people using that feature. Okay. I've seen a couple.     See, I like being too present in life. Amen. Yeah, I feel you tuned out again. The weird in public, fold out. But think about it. On your head? Yeah. As an adult, there ain't even many things that could possibly keep us entertained for that long. You get what I'm saying?  She was dope though. Yeah, it's gonna get smaller. Just like the phone. More convenient. Yeah. You should be some contact soon. Whatever it is.  Come on now.   You know what? I get a pin on how the coach would talk about it sometime. They'll entice you.    Nigga, I was on the moon. Nigga, I was on the moon. Yeah, you feel me? Like that. He swaying me for real. Like, damn, for real, like. Hey, man. That nigga's only when he said he pet the wolf. When he said he pet the wolf. No, you don't pet the wolf. Okay.  What's that? The swords come out, right?  So you sitting on like a mountain, right? Then it's a little butterfly that fly out.   Real motherfucking butterfly. Then a little baby dinosaur come up out the crack. But that motherfucker literally right there. It look real, it's fucked. Like you can see it. Cause you there.        Turn around, right?     Hey man. You can swear anything boy.   Man if you want to lay out and send somebody up there to get one of them bitches right now. Go get one. I have one next time you see me. Okay. I might not even be talking to motherfuckers no more after this. Found out how to download some digital friends.  But he got a reservation for driving with it. But they said you're supposed to be able to drive with it because you can see through it. Nah, they going too far. See? They going too far.  You drive it on the moon. But that's the thing.   Yeah. AR, AR augmented reality.  No, I tried to tell y'all. Hey man. A few years ago they said one of them. They tried to get a game and they didn't want to tell a thing. Bruh.   The hood is old. Hey, what's up world? It's your man Carlos Miller, man.   We got all of that. All of that, man. From like one's is for the baby. We even got special items for the ladies. Coming out with my own foot massager. Well, that's what I'm gonna call it anyway. Whatever. There's 85aparroco.com.  And support the movement, man. Cause 85 South. Ain't just about the 85 South. It's about all of us. The whole, like my section of it.  Cause they got to see mine.  That's the real genius. Who motherfuckers are made it? They ain't made it.  That's gonna be a cold motherfucker. When you're gonna take you on a tour and not go nowhere.   I feel like that's a little key happening though. Somebody got.   That's that. Yeah.   As it's live going on, watch.  Like they in there. Yeah. That's different. I see where you're going.   I don't want to see that. They gonna make a fake, all right man.  You just, I don't know. I don't know. I gotta get used to just seeing the nigga with goggles and the microphone like or whatever. Like would it be you performing this shit? Like.  So they'll be there. They'll be there. But they'll be in a whole nother reality. You performing for people that that only see you through it, right? Ain't that, don't they have the artist who's performing that shit? Bro, you not hearing me.  Not the game, bro.   That's all niggas want to do, man. If I didn't get in two k's.  I've crossed over this nasty in life but it ain't right in the game.   That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, man. Roll up man. We got special guests in here with us today. Come on, man. J-U-N, what you playing right now? This is a body, face to... Come on, man. Turn it up. Turn this up, man. That's money. I used to do it in the building. You hear me? Black, I don't care what y'all was, man. See what you brought all y'all built. This is a big deal, bro.  I'm like, damn. You blacked out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is what I mean or what I mean about living out in just like the whole vibe but this is what I love to see. Absolutely. Black individuals being able to provide for the people around them for themselves and for their family. So it's really a beautiful thing walking in here seeing all the activation, seeing just like, I feel like your mind is in here. Exactly. And just like all the parts of y'all are in this year. So I just think like it just shows. We working over here, man. We came a long way. And this is just that final level up, man. We could really just turn ideas into tangible reality.  Definitely. You're going to have a headset or something. Well, I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to at least be teaching some courses or something on that month. The game is changing, man.  They just going to be able to think of it. Then it's done.   They let the don't start that. Man, you know that. Somebody doing it, ain't it? They doing it with the boys and everything. They doing the chat PT for the verse. Then they got another one that do the voice and will say what you want it to say the way you want them to say it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, they like they doing famous artists every day motherfuckers making big songs. Pop. You ain't been on that? Man, it's true.  I'll be right back.    It's already somewhat in the video, shit, but it ain't weird.  Yeah, it's getting better, it's scary. I'm going to ask you, what should Ace Hood name the new album? What should I name that? We're about to see.  Watch this. It's going to give you a suggestion based on your history already. Ace Hood could name his new album. You ready for this? Unstoppable evolution to convey growth, resilience, and progress in his music career. You think I'm bullshitting? Say that GPT? Yeah. See, this is why I don't rock with it. I'm telling you. That ain't that. Or is that the name of your album? No, tell us it's the name of your album. Because if you already named your album. It ain't the name of my album, but it's what I've been on. The evolution, the unstoppable evolution. Oh, you don't use it all the way. It ain't going to work. That's what I've been on.  They do know you.   It's pulling from everything on the interviewer. It made me a little proud, too, because it got the computers down. Even the computers know what I'm holding. You feel me? Which means that I'm, yeah. Right. You don't put it out there some type of way. Digitally. It's in the imprint. Folks talk about your footprint. Yeah, it's what you lead in your staff in real world, but that's not a bad digital one to have. That's not a bad. That's not a bad digital one to have, bro. Yeah, that's real. Let me know what they think, That's kind of wild. This sound right. That's crazy. If I could have known, who would have just said something? I asked him, what should you name your comedy special? It said, Laugh Chronicles from the South to the Stage to highlight his Southern roots in comedic journey. Hey. Hey, man. That's what I'm telling you. Hey, man, hey.  Nothing else, bro.  Yeah, I got it. I told you about it. That she scared me. I turned it off because I was trying to break it. Yeah.  I knew it couldn't answer. It said, I should name my comedy special, Unfiltered Laughter, the Carlos Chronicles to- Why not? Don't you chronicle us? Unrestrained comedic style to showcase his unique storytelling ability. That's what's up. Why are you trying to chronicle us, though? They chronicle us.   Like, any time you put comedian in there, Chronicle. Yeah. Like, he's gonna hit you. Yeah. You some chronic. Yeah. Hey, what's up? It's Carlos Miller coming at you with Prize Pigs, where a single entry could be life changing from NBA to NHL to MLB, to college basketball, baseball. There's a wide range of options to choose from, especially during March Madness. 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And that's it. You're right. I apologize. I don't know everything. It is just starting to explain. I don't even know stuff up to 2021. What? Yeah.   They might not need to. You know what I'm saying? They got it up, they too. Shit don't need to be smarter than us. Hey, man, welcome back to the 85 Tell Show. Yo! I don't know if you know, but it's time that you get to know. This was voted the number one show amongst black people who have owned or written in a Cadillac. This is the number one show amongst black people that was blacker when they were younger. Only real black people even know what that means.  And I've been telling y'all we got all kind of, guess this is gonna stop through the trap this year. You don't never know who gonna pull up. Sometimes we just go outside and be like, who out there? But these some, you know, other times I'd be having to call somebody that knows somebody that went to school with somebody that owes somebody a couple of dollars. They don't talk, but then get me the number to go around and all that. Send the email, then get a text, then call them on WhatsApp just to get their Facebook page. So they can tell me to follow them on Instagram, send them tweets, then leave a voicemail, then get a call from an unknown number. Call them back, block. They don't answer the phone. Let somebody send a text. They say, who is this? Text back, you text me first. That's how hard I go for this show. I go through extreme means just to go get some of the codes. They say put you do all that. Some of the braids. Some of the hardest. Some of the most world renowned. ghetto legend. Now when you become a ghetto legend, that's better than just being a regular legend. That mean you did something in the ghetto that you're gonna forever be remembered for. I'm talking about, this thing is so millions of records. I mean a whole bunch of millions. Platinum plaques. One of the only rappers in the game. Shit crazy to save out. Ain't nobody took nothing from it. Come on man, thorough. All the way up and through there. Been on a journey of evolution. Unstoppable. Quit eating chicken. Now you just eat fruits and vegetables and smoothies. Soft fruits with no seeds in them. But he wants the seeds in them so they can be organic. Spring water. Alkaline. Alkaline. Sour sauce. Alkalinity. Nah man, my dog ain't good. None of the stream beans. That's been crazy. Welcome to the travel G. How you been? How you been? I've been good. I've been good man. What do we even start? That what I'm saying, honestly bro. It's been a journey dog. I don't even know what it starts like. We can start anywhere. We can start. We can start with the light. We can start independent. We can start, you know what I'm saying? We can go kids, life man. We can go travel. We can go business. We can go, there's so many killers in places we can touch on. Well, I'm gonna go on here and say it then, bro. Everybody been seeing you on the ground? Yeah. In love? For sure. You don't even, wife do it all? Yeah. Every time you got all women all across the country. You see what Ace is gonna do? Yes. You a lightweight bodybuilder now. You picking them up and all this. Putting pressure on the streets. You found that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Congratulations my boy. How that feel? It feel beautiful. It feel beautiful, dawg, honestly, bro. You know what I'm saying? They have a partner. You know what I'm saying?  You know what I'm saying? Respect my struggles and the things that I went through. Right. And yeah, man, allow me to just be. You know what I'm saying? And I think that's important for men to just have safe spaces. You know what I'm saying? With their partner where they can just be. They feel safe.  And they never had that. I ain't comfortable with that. See? What are you about her? Everybody be asking me, man. How you deep talk to her? She rolled in on a meteorite. She had no toxicity. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, when you say toxicity, it lives in all of us. Yeah, okay. You know what I'm saying? My girl, sometimes I was like, hey, now you use an oil spill. Right? You use it.  I ain't had this much toxicity on me, but. Yeah. Right. But, uh, okay. That's what's up. It's work. It's real work. Okay. You know what I'm saying?  In the beginning portion, but I think we were super intentional about our marriage and even getting together. You know what I'm saying?  For the most part. Now that's dope. Find somebody to do that with. How you know she was the one? That was the... As soon as I told the lady, you was coming on the show. That was the number one question that I got. How you knew? For me, she had got out early on in our relationship about the time I think me and my being was at odds or something like that. It's just some propaganda got out into the internet. And it was about...  So, to me, that was a real moment for me.  So, being that she didn't jump to conclusions and she was like, she came from a place of understanding, a place of, you know, being compassionate and all of that. I was like, you know, this is something to build on. And I feel like I've never gotten this response in terms of, like, you know what I understand. Tell me what happened. And to me, that was major. So that was one of the inclination that I recognized a lot, yeah. Like, she's a show.  Yeah, cause we... You ain't even talk around that time either. I'm like, cause I ghosted her. I ghosted her, I ghosted her for a quick, you know what I'm talking about? I ghosted her and get going and forget it ever happened.  I liked the way we went about that conversation and that conversation a lot.  So, it made that moment real special. You know, when you had that bond, that bonding moment between you and your person where it's like, I'm niggel and I appreciate you. You get it. You got me. You got me. So, that's really was. And not only that, bro, you know, as long as I can still be me and be married, that's what matters. That year, you gotta be yourself. Yeah, I can't be nobody else.  This, I know, it ain't easy. I don't let it, I don't let it no. Man, you find somebody to let you be yourself.  Especially with these horror stories you hearin' on the internet now. Yeah, a few of my homies goin' through that. It's a few of mine, too. I'm like, boy, the dating world just sound like, it just sounds something that's almost ancient now, like the way they talkin' about it.   In real life. The bill was 2,000, bro, crazy.  And then act like ordered, entree ordered the side, ordered drinks, and buddy left and went to the bathroom.  Nah, I can't even. You was probably concerned. You were a mammal, you were a sea. Right, right.  That's how I feel, bro. I'm like, yeah, yeah.  Yeah, yeah. You ate 47 anything.  Nothing. He said 47, not even 47 M&M. 47 M&M's is a lot, how many are packed, like 22? That's two packs of M&M's at one, like in one sitting? Yeah. That is, that's very concerning, though. Like, I appreciate a woman who's not afraid to eat all her food on a date, but not all the food.  That's what you say to like later on when she, when y'all already like, yeah. They try to take a lot home. Like they try to take a whole separate order home.  Not for real. After like 15, then you need to be like, I pay for the rest of these. Okay, okay, okay, I know, I know, I know. You think it, I can't possibly won't know about, but you ain't got to pay for this. I got this. Right around the next 15 on me. That's crazy.  You can't ask for no bulls after she the eight, four to seven.  What is wrong with your stomach, man? You need to go to the ER. We need to go to the hospital. That's the next step. But you finna make a pearl inside of your oyster.  You spend the night with her, and she on boo-boo the whole time.    Right, right. I never want to see you again if you eat 47 oysters. I don't want to see you at 42.  You take a woman out to eat, and when she finished, they be like, ma'am, can we get a picture? For what? We're gonna put you on the wall of fame. You gonna put your picture right next to Big Joe's. He 42 oyster. We gonna put you on that wall, Captain's favorite. That's crazy.  That's dead, man. You said your homies got stories. What they gonna do out here, man? Hey, how you gonna get about it? What do you need me to try to tell them to get? You know they be calling. What was some advice, bro? They be wanting advice, but you know not to hit them and always take the advice, bro. You feel me? They do the opposite. They call you and be like, that's what I should do. That's what I should do. You feel me?  That's exactly how you respond to it. I started to have my dog in the day too. I'm telling you the same way.  He's man, I'm not here, bro. He's gotta be out here, bro. I'm from the streets, bro. They can go as and not do it. Yeah.  Yeah, it's the responsibility. Women want this, they want that, but she was looking to get this out of me and this, you know what I'm saying? Shit swooped. All right, welcome back to the 85 South Show. I don't normally be eating and drinking on this show, but this lemonade is too goddamn good and not true.   I might've heard y'all boys talking about that.  You ain't been to J.J.? I ain't been to J.J., bro. I've been out here, bro. I gotta get right. You haven't had it? I need a hood, tours or something like that for to get me through them in. What you eat in these? J.J. ain't all through the little hot spots. They never gonna let you down. It's fried food though. They gonna be fast, yeah.   No, they don't. They fry everything. Everything fried. They fry the receipt. They fry everything. They got no grill, nothing. Shit, I don't know. Grilled nigga, a little snapper. They got one. They fried that lemonade. Lemonade deep fried. That's why that been so good. And then you can get a flavor with the, what you call it? You could be real childish. Now we're gonna put you up on the spots, man.  Two chain got a spot out this way. Ask a boy I heard about that. Yeah, ask a boy I sell him. That ain't two.  For the ATL food tour. Where the hell we at? This episode is sponsored by Blue Chew. That's right. Blue Chew wants to help you have better sex. Discover your options at BlueChew.com. Chew it and do it. Blue Chew is a unique online service that delivers the same active ingredients as Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra. But in a chewable tablet and at a fraction of the cost, you can take them anytime, day or night. The process is simple. Sign up at BlueChew.com. Consult with one of the licensed medical providers and once you're approved, once you're approved, once you're approved, you'll receive your prescription within days. The best part is all done online. So no visits to the doctor's office. 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He will rap fast, too, from up North. Oh my God, I can't forget. They had a few. Yeah, but this was one of the guys. He had to come to me. Oh, OK. I just left New York.  Mecca. She going crazy up there, man. Brass everywhere. Migrants. They having the migrant crisis up there now. Yeah, I forget my name, though, but. They trying to give them bread, too? Yeah. They been putting them up in hotels and stuff.   So they wasting the food. So instead, they gonna give them a debit card with, like, $12,000 on it and be like, What? Don't finna get me one now.  That's their card. What you talking about?     You know what I'm saying?  And that money comes from somewhere else.   Well, it's not that we can do what we can. It don't work like that. Yeah, because you don't want it to work like that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Damn.  I wish I remember dog name, but he was one of the ones. Dog used to sit. And because he not like the common rappers, I just can't think of his name right now. But he's from the old school, dog.  And because, you know, I came up in the era where it's like, niggas used to always say niggas from down south couldn't rap. So that whole, that whole energy was going on. You feel me?  Right, right. You had to prove yourself. You had the extra. There you go. But my thing was they were saying motherfuckers couldn't rap. And I was like, y'all not even listening to what they were saying.    You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah.  Yeah.  What, having a car? No, I'm just saying the whole lifestyle and the Southern culture that we got, right? They don't, we got music.   Just drive yourself everywhere. That's crazy, son. Yeah. Y'all drive on the street. We ride under the street. Right.  No, asses, it's too, it's not enough room. They ain't got asses like that. You got to go. Why we need certain shit? Some shit, we, see, we have music that fit exactly where we going, man. Buddhist ain't do. Exactly.  Buddhist.   These niggas ain't living like we live. What they make up, no, titty music? Yeah, any of them.  I got to go to work.  But hood, you don't have some of the biggest songs that are like anthems, my nigga.  You had some, like, tell me some of the moments to you that still, like, really stand out, keep you going in the game. Oh, man, it's a lot of moments, though.  You know what I'm saying? With T-Pain and Ross on it. That was a big way to introduce myself at that time. I'm 18 years old. Yeah, I was young. I'm still a young nigga. It's so funny, because some people would see me be like, they think I'm older than I am. I'm like, yeah, but I was like seven when you was like, I know you can want a nigga. What? Nigga, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, right. I'm three-five, so, like, you know, so. But yeah, bro, cash flow was one of the ones that introduced, but like, you know, after, you know, dropping them two projects and then with that one, two projects and then, you know, getting into, like, self-proclaimed record, which was hustle hard. To me, that was like a self-identity record of like, I arrived because of what all led up until that point in me just generating that record that I was like. You got a hustle hard, man. Yeah, bro. You know what I'm saying?   You finish it back to back, banger. Yeah. Bro, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.  Yeah, bro. We had a city song up, man. You know what I'm saying? I was like the youngest part of that movement. So I was like the baby of that. You see what I'm saying? It was raw, it was flow, call it. I was on the road. Lies to everybody, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was a- But y'all ain't let up. The South period has been running, but it was certain areas. It's like, oh, okay. You see, they got it right now. Not the crib. They song up. They got it. Yeah, but like you said, that was a hell of a way to introduce yourself, man. Yeah, bro. Jumped in that way, in the do. So to me, that record was big, dawg, for the simple fact of like where I was. Because it was like literally, for me to have created this record, like I was in the space of like, literally me and my dawg on the couch, trying to figure it out. You know what I'm saying? Bruh sent me to beat. Lex Lewis sent the joint over and I'm like, man.  That's it. Like I knew that. Like if I flip this in a way, because I knew what everybody else was doing. I'm always, anytime I approach a record, trying to be more innovative than anything. You see what I'm saying? Trying to create something new for people, the different style. Or maybe we saying the same thing, but just in a different way.  You see what I'm saying? So, you know, and I love that. I love forcing the hand, meaning like putting the energy out and then the people, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you get them calls. You know what I'm saying? Well, you heard that new hood record?  And then from there, man, we did.  Yeah, yeah, it was all. Yeah, it was literally like, that was my current situation at the time too.  I got to hustle, you feel me? And you know, really just take control, bro. Yeah, yeah. I think it probably still do.   I got just my old catalog on its own doing numbers. My back catalog. I'm not even talking about what I do independently, but like, you know, so it's a beautiful thing. And I love all of the records, man.  Got in the studio, Wayne. Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying?   We got the, you know, all these shit's top five. That Bugatti shit, I feel like it's a lot of motherfuckers that said that after. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you hear that.  Yeah, I was damn sure confused.  I would try to know with C, so I already knew what was going on. Let me see that later. You know what I'm saying? I woke up in a new Bugatti.   When you fall asleep and just wake up in a brand new fucking... That's the black people hangover. That's the black people. That's what that is. Woke up in a new Bugatti.  We already, you know, we'll take some meetings later. How you liking the independent route? I like it, bro. You know what I'm saying? Honestly, bro, I love it. It has its challenges, but I love it. I love the ownership portion of it. You know what I'm saying? I like putting my hand on it. You know what I'm saying? Like really overlooking the thing. You know, the moment I went independent, though, I went back to school and all. For real? I went to Berkeley, nigga. Took a music business course. Berkeley? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to like a six week course. And, you know, got my degree on that. Just so I just wanted to get the information. Cause what I recognized before is I didn't add information. So a part of me was powerless for real. You see me? Yeah. So I enjoy the independence because it's like it's by your own hand. It's how are you going to show it for yourself? And I love that through good or bad. I love that showing up and knowing that I got the power to change whatever my circumstance looks like. I love that. You feel me? I get to learn the information. I could go in. I could spend time with it. And ultimately I can change the thing and make it look however I want to look. I can play. I can be vulnerable. I like that freedom, bro. Well, most definitely.  Like, you know, like, yeah. So. Walking to the mailbox with the mysterious checks in there. Come on now. Oh, I forgot I've been working on them. Oh, yeah, they do owe me. They owe me forever. Oh, yeah. Forever they owe me. Did we send the invoice? Yeah. Snuffing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Send the invoice. Yeah, yeah. So you went the whole business route. Music, you say it was music business? Music business.  Yeah, I got my degree in that. And that man invested in it. You can make a lot of money.  So do you not teach in that shit? You handle everything or you still got? Oh, no, I got people to delegate, you know what I'm saying? They can't take you for no motherfucking rat. No, they can't play with me. They can't play with me. No, they can't play with me.  You got to share some of the game that you got from taking the music class, bro. It was one of the things that really stuck out to you once you got into it. Man, he had to pay for school. You had to pay for school, right? Yeah. You had to pay? Yeah, I had to pay.  Don't tell them nothing.  You might not be able to go where he went, but you can go somewhere. That's right.  No, you could learn, like, you can learn all type of things, man. Like, you know, learning about the different type of, like, licensing and sync and the difference between, like, royalties and publishing and stuff like that and what you actually get paid from that. If your music is playing in the background somewhere, what that royalty looks like, too. You know what I'm saying? So understanding different language and contracts and perpetuity, learning what that means. You know what I'm saying? It means, like, for the lifespan of. So it's like, you don't want deals, like, that's in perpetuity and for most of the people of artists who, you know, who are young and they get them contracts to say that because they want to, you know, hold you to that lens so they can kind of keep recycling, recycling, recycling.  And then, like, now I got into, like, neighboring rights. So the neighboring rights is like being able to collect money overseas, you know what I'm saying? A lot of artists don't know that. You can collect VMI and your sound exchange and all of that in the States. But overseas, there's a whole pot of gold that many artists maybe don't know about as neighboring rights.  So, like, it's a whole another situation over there that we can go take advantage of.  So just little things like this is what I've been focused on and I think that's sometimes where maybe the unfun part come in because I got to be so focused on the business and the logistical parts of things. So, you know, ultimately it's finding like the right pieces that can get the thing and where we needed to go. But I'm being patient and I know what I want. So, you know. That's hard. Yeah, bro. It's good to hear though. Yeah, bro. Good to hear. Like, you're taking it serious to the point where you go back to school. That ain't no easy task.  You went to school. I'm going with this, right here. This thing that, y'all got it? Okay. Yeah, because it felt, bro, it felt terrible, dog.  Like, you don't really know.  You got to relinquish that control. So, it's like, it's that type of thing.  I was like, in a way I can be successful cause, you know, coming from a space where like, nobody don't know, nobody know this where I'm from. Nobody know this. Right. You see what I'm saying? So, now you see there's a reason why. Now you see there's a reason why I went. So, I'm like, I understand why God took me on a journey, like, you know what I'm saying? So, I get it man. And for me, like it's like being of service too. So, the youth know, like what to look out for, you know what I'm saying? How to represent themselves and standing their power regardless of being on a major situation and not, no matter where I go, I stand in my power. And I'm very proud of that. It's based on me being intentional and like the decisions I made type shit, so.  Yeah. Fully standing my power, I think it's gonna look a little different, I think. Now, my voice is the key. So, whether that's through music or whether that's through speaking or whatever that might look like, I think that's my, you know what I'm saying? That's my next space. And not only that, I think really for me is to do it at, give it a thousand percent. You know what I'm saying? I know that I can do more. I know there's areas where I can show up and be better, you know what I'm saying?  That's how I tend to bring it back to me because I'm already the thing. I think it's just highlighting that, you know, this is what I do. This is how I live. These are my thoughts, these are my ideas because before I never shared them. So, I think this is why, you know, coming out and speaking and like people hearing me, getting a perspective, helping to understand my journey, what I've been through and what I have to offer. So, that's where I am now.  It's really just, I'm gonna do the work. I'm gonna put out great music. I'm gonna put out great videos. Every time we show up, we're gonna be 100. We're gonna connect with people. We're gonna build the relationships. You know what I'm saying? We're gonna serve people in a way that we need to build others up along our journey. And I think that's what I'm doing now. That looks different for sure. You know what I'm saying? This is beautiful. That sounds a lot different. That's all I do. Over in that shit, man. That's what the people want to hear. Standing and doing, too, man. That's the fact. Standing and doing. Not just talking about it. Yeah. I would never preach anything or say anything that I haven't done or been through. Never. So, who are some of the young dudes that you're in tune with right now? Next generation, pretty much. Generation, man. I like a lot of the young niggas, bro. Doing they thing. I like what Baby doing. I like what Dirk doing. I'm a young boy. I like what he doing, too. The music side. I like that new boss, man. D. Lojane, you know what I'm saying? I like what I...  Yeah, he got a few of them like what he's doing. Yeah, that's probably my playlist what I'm riding to right now.   Yeah, yeah, yeah.    You know, to watch them do theyself and express themselves at the highest level.  Yeah, I love that shit, bro. Needs them outlets, man. Yeah.  That's just that spirit, that energy, man. Yeah. It hit different. Just hope it don't go too far. Yeah, you got to get it. Keep it on the record. That's all I look at.   It ain't worth it, because if you... Because it was so crazy, it was like if one of them cats make it to C or even to C30 and he...  I'm like, damn, it wasn't even that worth. You know what I'm saying? Even if a nigga lived two, three years longer, you feel like you get to the point where like, a nigga that ain't even worth it there.  And you was right there. Yeah.   Right, bro. You only get one. Yeah, yeah.  What's the name of your independent joint? Your independent label? So the Hood Nation is my brand. Right, other brand.  You know what I'm saying? That's my brand, my label. I also got my touring company too. But Hood Nation to be the stable point. So I'm just trading lightly with that space. You know what I'm saying? I seen a lot of OGs go through things, you know what I'm saying?  So I just want to be smarter about it. I want to make sure that I have the proper amount of value and leadership to be able to guide them in the proper way. So that's really my thing. Man, you know what's crazy? I feel like you can drop one of these anthems whenever you get ready though. Yeah, any good time. Summer coming up? Yeah, I'm already on the air. Summer time. Even before then, I got some Afro beat. I'm a piano style music dropping too.   So like, I'm excited about it though, because I love the opportunity to show niggas like, I'm really the best doing this. And any kind of... That's what I was just getting ready to ask you. A lot of your fan base is in the street. Real street niggas and like, you know hustle hard in there. What you gonna have for them? Yeah.  How I navigated my path. You know, as a black man growing up in the hood, bro, like there's a lot that I learned and I had to develop about my person and my being that I think any street nigga, any hood nigga can benefit from. On how to live a more loving life. How to really be confident with yourself. How to really just learn how to be as a black man.  We got to do, we got to create this thing, do this thing, do this thing. When in reality, a lot of us can't just be with ourselves.   You know what I'm saying? Now it's time for me to give you the stories. You feel me of like, what that frustration felt like. And what that fear really felt like, right? It's really what it felt like.  You know what I'm saying? It's really what that, so to me, when you share real stories like that, that's a human experience ultimately. You know what I'm saying? So like, that's what I plan on giving the real niggas, bro. It's a life in the song. Bro, how did you find your peace? I went to Hill, bro. Honestly, real shit, I think. Like I took three, four years after the moment that I went independent and I left the Khaled situation. That was the moment where I just decided I was like, man, I really gotta take my power back. I gotta get some type of power. Like I ain't had no control of my contract. I ain't had no control of my systems.  They tell me when to move, what to say, how to say it. It was time, you know, getting down to that. So for me, I was like, man, this ain't me. I can't operate in my fullest truth because this is what they would rather me put out commercially.  You know what I'm saying? And business is getting handled without, you know, me being able to have a say so in that, you know what I'm saying? Especially if I'm involved in the business, you know what I'm saying? I know it's not my thing or my label, but if we homies and we handling business, you know what I'm saying? I want to be able to be upfront about just this move I made, the homie. Like, you know what I'm saying? So you know what's going on. So it was just little things like that, man. I think for me, that just led me to just be like, man, you know what? Now that I'm independent, dawg, I gotta just go on the journey of just finding out who I am. Because when I was 18, bro, I knew who, I knew who Ace Hood was for years. But I forgot who LeTuan was.   Like with his mind thinking and shit, I totally adopted this Ace Hood and the lifestyle. Now, like now I'm addicted to the lifestyle of people telling me I'm great. I need the performances. I need this.  Like be broken apart, really, to be kind of stripped away from those things that I love the most or at least thought I love the most or at least these are the things that bring me value as a man. So without these traveling or doing the things and the way that I do it and the big label, like who am I now? Am I worthy for real? You see what I'm saying? Like, should I still be doing this shit? So I had to go through that, the ego death or just really killing, like not killing off, but just healing that youthful part of me that led me to the industry. You know what I'm saying? Healing that part of being abandoned didn't have my pops feeling like, man, I'm a pull up, you know what I'm saying? Like, and now the industry has become like my soul, proprietor, my solely everything.  You know what I'm saying? But I'll just recognize all of where I lack because as artists sometimes we look to the world like, man, we got this thing all figured out when in reality, like your person in your building, you know, your being is insufficient. You know what I'm saying? When you go home, you feel sad. But you got all the money, you got everything. We got the whip side, side. We got it all. I got the crib, we got everything. I've always had it, but it's like, you know, recognizing that I ain't got nobody to share this with. Some wife come in later.  I really feel alone in about four niggas with me. 40 niggas.  Like, if I feel like if I make a left or just go like a nigga gonna knock my head, like to the point where like, nigga, we doing this. You know what I'm saying?  And that's my being, you know what I'm saying? I was my journey.  But I just went on the space of just separating myself from the industry because I had to decide, like, I knew how to always hood rock, but I got to figure moving forward. Who am I now? What am I gonna say now moving forward? I gave you all this. The Bugatti's the hustle hard, but what am I gonna say to you now moving forward as an independent artist? Say it. Then we trusted the process. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Hell of a spill. Yeah. Real. Yeah. I hope you listen to J.O.N. I was the one. Yeah. Yeah.      Appreciate it. In the business. Hood nation. Hood nation, man. You got, if you have any artists or you focusing on the solo right now, you know you got to go get one of them, the niggas. I'ma grab somebody. You got to. Yeah, I'ma grab one of the youngins, you know. That's showing the business the right way. I'ma be real though about it cause you know I don't want to just do it cause I feel like, it feel like the thing to do. You know what I'm saying?  I'm gonna find one you believe in.  To me, when I get that spark of like, this little nigga, whoever, a female, whatever it might look like, then I can invest my time and energy. Oh yeah, 1,000%. But it's just gonna happen. You been the young nigga before.   Like bro, I just want to make sure you're straight. Yeah. This what you looking for, this what you avoid, like you said, they're testimony to tell your story, man. Make sure, like that's the way you get them back. Yeah, real tough. Hell yeah. Yeah, I felt with that. I think that's actually the way I would approach the two. Yeah. It's like, softly just involve myself, you know what I'm saying? Being around, offering information where I can, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And then eventually that'll make sense, you know? You see a nigga long enough, you know I want the best for you. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Hype, where you see the gay man right now? From your vantage point, what is looking like? Free fall, man, it's a free for all. I see opportunity though, you know what I'm saying? I actually see evolution too, man, rather than I agree with it or not.  And we got, you know, but I think it's, that's just what it looks like when it's evolving. It's been, it's been in the culture. I think this has been our culture forever, man. So I think, I take it as it comes, you know, I think mainly I look at it as like, how can I move with the times, right?   But even if I don't like it and or don't love what's happening, I don't shun it though. Right. You know what I'm saying? Even if I don't understand it, I'm just like. Somebody like it.  Somebody like it. And you can see where it came from because that's what, whenever anybody get older, they go look at the youth like, oh, they was looking at us like we was crazy. They were looking at them like they was crazy. They was looking at them like so. Yeah.  You know what I'm saying?  I don't know. Right. But then you got to keep in mind, these young niggas don't want to make no music for a nigga that's 35.  That's the gauge that they using. Like, old niggas like it.  Right. Move on to something else.   So they got one old nigga in the studio whenever he nod his head.    Take them vote. I'm finna put them vote on another track, man.  Yeah. That's a little runaway. Huh. Yeah. We got a one night.  Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's funny, though.  Niggas know better, man.  Taste testing me. There's beauty in getting older, man. Hell yeah, man. It's the gold.  I hope you want to make some better decisions at some point in your life. I would hope so. Absolutely. Enjoy yourselves, you know what I'm saying? Every day I'm trying to make it better than the last one. Real shit, man. I wake up like the dad on American Dad. I jump up, good morning, USA. One nut hanging out of my drawers, that's it. One long-ass, grin-daddy nut. It'd be crazy, kid. Like a cue ball in a skin sack. It was, it was, it was okay. One grapefruit-sized nut. That's funny.    Hey, man, I got a few verse you might want to see. Let me see what you rockin' with them. I know what's going on.  I remember vividly, nigga, I was a shorty seeing them dunks, nigga, all like, yeah. Who had the cleanest verdict in your hood?   This nigga, Nava, got a hard dunk. Oh, he got one, he got another one that he workin' on right now that's gon' be cold. Nava, she hard, Nava from the crib. Yeah. Nava, she hard. My fuck, a legend when it comes to them dunks. He, they shot out the number. He a fool with it. Yo, that one fuckin' blew he did with a goal. Rod Wave got a cold one too.  And what them boy did to that motherfucker? Kenny down there, I done.  What he at? They got? Kenny. Yo, that's the guy who do it. 1995 Motor Sports. Oh, okay. Yeah.  Yeah, yeah. He go all underneath there. He rebrand, retouch everything.  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you got it.  Well, y'all suited. I'm gonna get me one while I'm out here, though. I gotta have one. I got one for you. I reckon I, yeah. Oh, you got one for me? I got you one for you. I'm broke, man. Yes, sir. Yeah, I got one for you. Yeah, I gotta go crazy on mine too, though. It's on, you know, I gotta go crazy. I'm telling you, man, you got, I'm gonna have you a nice project you can go wherever you wanna go with it. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Yeah, nothing to worry about on that, man.   What they can catch up with you at? Catch up with me, man, that anything ace hood, you know what I'm saying? Shit, TikTok ace hood, Instagram ace hood. I gotta ask you this. Also my fitness tool, hashtag shredded.com make sure y'all go check that out. Hell yeah. Yeah, we building that community out too.  And I get y'all to focus on your mind and then I get you to health and wellness shit, to focus on the body and the spirit, you know what I'm saying?   Bro, have you got to catch any of these new female rappers? What they got? They got a hell of a movement going on with the ladies right now. Yeah, they do, bro. So for you to be, you know what I'm saying? In the game as a, like I say, your vantage point, man, what you think of that movement?  Movement, bro, I think they killing it, bro. Yeah. They killing it, dawg. The lottoes, you know, it's another song that I heard about.  Oh man, the glow, really that new joint. Yeah, glow.  Yeah, glow. That motherfucking, uh. In the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the nerves.  Man, every time I see what they got there on microphone, just hanging that in the street. Yeah, yeah, it's always a no.      Man, Crubin' on Crubin'. Yeah. If she don't come out with her own chain. She got to, but. A Crubin' on Crubin'. A Crubin' on Crubin'.   That need to be the next, that's the follow up. Crubin' on Crubin'. Mm-hmm. That music. Damn, that music.  There's a lot of new motherfuckers popping up, man.  Yeah.  Try to trap the impact of two of those homies in the city. Oh, that nigga go hard. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to the boys at the crib doing they thing.  Man, you heard it, tight out of Florida. Tight? Yeah. Major. Yeah, the tight. TYTE. That nigga full with a shout out to my nigga. Oh, nigga break. Yeah. Well, shit, man, we can do this all day. You here now, so this gonna be, we'll just say this part one.  You gotta pull it back up when Chico and DC here. For sure. That's, that's, you gotta do that.  Appreciate it. Well, look, man, this your first time stopping through the trap, but don't let it be the last man. 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