This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network Big weekend in college football as far as undefeated teams being tested for this weekend It's not just that big matchup between Oregon and Washington. We've also got UNC trying to remain undefeated We've got USC on the road taking on Notre Dame So some very big spots here for teams that are undefeated thus far We're gonna break down those big games outline where Ed's model is showing value for this week and get you ready For week seven in college football This is covering the spread right here on the Fandall podcast network and Fandall research My name is Jim Sonnis I am a managing editor of digital media for a Fandall research joint here as I have every Wednesday by dr Ed Feng you can find his work at the power rick comm and check about on Twitter at the power rick Ed week seven is coming up and a huge huge week for the pack 12. How are you doing today? I'm doing great I'm really looking forward to Oregon Washington should be a fantastic game looking forward to breaking it down and Yeah, should be another awesome week in college football I also love this Oregon Washington game is a 230 Central time game like it's kind of weird to have a game That high profile that is thrust in the afternoon slow like usually, you know It gets like the prime time treatment and like personally that fits better with my schedule So I kind of like the fact that we get these huge you games Begetting right away in the afternoon my friend who's a Washington fan grew up in Seattle and I are actually both running a half marathon the next morning like at 7 a.m. Eastern time So we're actually pretty thrilled that this is an afternoon game. Nice. Oh, where is your half marathon at? I Detroit international half. Nice. Very cool. Good luck to you. I Thank you very much.  So that's not a You know, but still half is never nothing. That's true. That's true. 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We got oklahoma u n c louisville the pack 12 schools and They're all undefeated But we know that records can be deceptive this early on the year when strength of schedule can be so disproportionate so Are you particularly skeptical of any of the those undefeated teams having staying power going forward? A few of them. I think oklahoma is legit I think this goes all the way back to last season when dylan gabriel was heard and texas really Put a big number on them. They also went 0 and 5 and 1 score games I think the real story is that oklahoma wasn't as bad as Their results suggested last season. I think we're seeing that This is a team that beat a texas team that I thought might be one of the best in the country a national title contender I mean, it was certainly close, but they were they were definitely in there The offense has been awesome. The defense has been good enough And you know, I mean dylan gabriel had a really really good game there. So I definitely think they're legit In terms of north carolina, we'll talk about them a little bit more later, but like Uh, I mean, who have they played south carolina? It's their their best Opponent so far and that was kind of a crazy game in which the defense played pretty well The defense has been a lot better than last year, but still not good We'll get into that in a little bit and then, you know louisville I don't know. I'm not I'm not necessarily buying what they're doing under jeff brahm really nice win um over noradame, but uh You know 26 an offense when I look at my uh, justice success rate 59th on defense nothing's really standing out Yeah, it'll probably get a lot harder pretty soon for them You can kind of see that in the market too because louisville is facing pittsburgh this week seven and a half point favorites against a pittsburgh team that's really struggling so far this year the total is low at 44 and a half So seven and a half is not like a small number by any means, but it does seem like the market Pretty skeptical of them so it sounds like you're kind of in line with what The market is saying about louisville specifically where the record is very good and they get deserve kudos for that But it doesn't mean we expect them to be some dominant team in the future For sure Absolutely, okay We'll stop with some of these fun games coming up throughout this week in college football beginning with that really fun game In the afternoon that is organ taking on washington washington is a two and a half point favorite at fandall sports book total in this game It's 67 and a half and ed you've been in washington I think on assistance last year with michael pennick's jr Being in town and they get a huge test here against organ So who you got coming out on top for organ against washington Well spoiler alert. My number is exactly 2.5. So Not necessarily seeing any value through the numbers I think this game is pretty interesting because both these teams came in with high expectations for offense which have Basically been met. I mean washington's been incredible First in the nation and adjusted success rate, uh, organ hasn't been too far behind at fourth washington really has a lot of weapons. I mean their top three receivers came back Uh, jaylon mcmillan actually hasn't played the last two games And he's listed as questionable for this game. I gotta think he plays in such a high profile game So, yeah, so they're they're great on the offensive side of the ball but there were question marks for both teams on the defensive side of the ball and You know organs actually really answered those questions. Uh, they're actually 14th in my adjusted success rate at this point And washington hasn't so much. They're 65th in the same metrics and what What I see when you look at these rosters is, you know, washington kind of leaned on a bunch of guys that played last year Uh, had a lot of returning starters hoping those guys would get better They've been kind of roughly the same organ uh, really went to the transfer portal brought in a ton of guys and Yeah, apparently dan landing knows what he's doing on the defensive side of the ball He really got a lot of players that seem to be making an impact Look six games can be a small sample size. You know, maybe organs defense is not You know top 15 unit like my numbers say now. I mean, I don't know. We'll kind we'll see about that Um, but right now I kind of think that you know, like if you just looked at numbers this year You would actually favor organ in this game and that's not the best way to make lines But it really is the strength that defense. I think if you had to lean any one way I would lean organ And probably under because I because I think the early returns on The organ defense are there and and you can kind of see the reasons why right a batch of new players Uh, you know, you actually have a corner that was expected to start that would bomb to buy transfer Colorado, uh, it really looks like Dan landings kind of figured out that side of the ball. So Yeah, interesting game. I would lean organ lean under But not seeing a ton of value. I wouldn't I wouldn't go bet these because of value I would go bet these because You want to have a little action on a on a preview game Uh, the total as you mentioned six seven and a half right now under is minus 110 if you do want to go that way The plus two and a half on organ is minus 102, but Also could take the approach of this is going to be a fun game. I don't want to sweat it So just sit back and watch that could be the other approach to this game as well Let's talk now about miami taking on you and see where right now UNC is a three and a half point favorite total for this game is 57 and a half and You talked a lot at about how the value of having a potential high end draft pick a quarterback Gives a big leg up to a team as far as their upside goes and UNC definitely has a drake may so Tight spread here. How do you see this game playing out? Yeah, I mean first we got to talk about miami and and not nearly on the ball last week. I mean it was like I went to bed So I actually found this out the next morning but in case you were under a rock this weekend, miami had the ball three point lead and Should have taken a knee they didn't they ran a play they got fumbled Georgia Tech gets the ball back pretty deep in their own territory. Miami should still win the game Georgia Tech completes a pass Probably pretty defended pretty well went right over the guy's fingertips Miami should still probably win the game last play of the game And somehow miami lets the Georgia Tech receiver get behind both of them For a game winning touchdown, which was almost not a winning game winning touchdown because the guy slid And almost slid at the one inch line. Yeah. Well, which was not out of the question. So uh, just kind of a remarkable remarkable outcome remarkable set of uh circumstances, which I think you I don't know. I mean my number is pretty close to this. I have UNC by about five and uh I don't know. I was kind of thinking maybe there'd be some more market correction because of that, but there really isn't um, you know, I mean miami has has done pretty well Obviously lost for the first time last week. I think UNC is um, you know, they're they're pretty decent on offense You know, drake may is great. It's going to be a top draft pick But didn't really have a lot of weapons coming back from last year So when you look and they're 18 then passing success rate adjusted for opponent in my number is I think that's pretty good Overall the defense is 46th, which is a vast vast improvement from last season So I think it should be an interesting game You know, North Carolina should remain undefeated, but it's a pretty tight spread. So don't be surprised if they don't Looking at this number, it's a three and a half right now, but the three and a half is minus 115 So it sounds like that's you know, once you account for the juice of minus 115 pretty in line with your numbers Are you Going to pass on that one despite showing value because it's pretty close to the mark pretty close to where you're at Yeah, I'm definitely going to pass on it. I mean, I think miami was a team that hasn't looked The best in in my numbers and you know a team that kind of looked at like they had rebounded From a tough season last year, but I'm not necessarily buying it yet. So yeah, I'm definitely pass All right, let's finish up here by talking about usc at notar dame where notar dame is a two and a half point favorite total is 60 and a half and We talked preseason at about how skeptical you were of usc's defense and they have Come through on that they have definitely been as bad as you thought they may be But now they're on the road. They're facing a very competent offense and Trying to remain undefeated. So Can the defense for usc do enough here to keep this team undefeated and pull off the upset in this one? Yeah, I mean, I think the idea of like usc needing to pull off an upset here is kind of interesting in and of itself I I should have checked what I would have made this in the preseason But I wouldn't be surprised if I would have had usc favored in in this game And it's and it's actually probably one of these put on quote out of conference games That should really be an in-conference game a little bit less the home field simply because These two programs know each other and usc always makes this trip Every other year so Yeah, I mean I have notar dame by about 2.3 points. So I'm pretty in line with the market here I'm certainly seeing what you were saying about usc's defense. It was You know, it's 42nd when I look at adjusted success rate But it's a lot worse than adjusted yards per play. So they're they're doing better stopping people But the explosive plays are are definitely hurting them, you know, giving a 506 yards there at zonah and 41 points Definitely not, you know what? Definitely not, you know, what they were going for at the beginning of the season You know, they kind of had You know a mix of returning starters and bringing in transfers. It doesn't look like it's working You know, you look at Oregon, Washington usc You know, I mean the defense of god Dan landing is the one that's kind of pushed his unit ahead and you know, that might be the difference in in In that conference. So can they get it done? I'm not sure. Oh, did that total go down? Yeah, we're down two points. I think there's a lot of wind this weekend I'm not sure if that's impacting this game. I know for NFL on sunday There is wind everywhere and totals on monday and the NFL just crashed as a result of that Yeah, yeah, it's that time of year. I mean, usually well, actually, I guess it's not that time of year. Usually yeah, it shouldn't be Usually you think about really having an impact in november We got we got a ways to go till november. So, um, you know, I'm not seeing any value in this game When the market was at 62 and a half I did notice that the unabated line which is an aggregator of sharp sports books They were leading on the under probably for the what rather weather reasons that you mentioned So I guess I'm not surprised at all. I've really actually found that on a big line to be pretty strong predictor market movement Um, and and some winners. So not surprised that that went down Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think it should be a great game. Uh, we'll see Yeah, it's definitely the wind. I'm looking in south bend on saturday night, uh, 14 mile per hour winds in the forecast So that's there. There is some rain. I don't care personally as much about rain It's more about wind. But when you have both together, that's a bit of a gross spot So I don't know. So wouldn't be shocked if this total comes down more Just based on that weather alone I want to go back to usc though because he mentioned That their success rate has been better than expected Um, but then the yards for play is very high now We typically say explosives are hard to predict big plays are hard to predict but The prior assumption for usc's defense that they were not good Does that play into that analysis where you say, okay Skeptical of usc's defense or maybe we do expect explosives to remain in play there just because we don't think this defense is Maybe as good as the success rate early on says Yeah, I mean, I think it's you know, I think this, uh, it Well, okay. So first of all, just let me point out like the numbers that I mentioned 40 second and success rate 91st in yards per play That is only data from this year So when you when you put the handicap on and you say, okay, well you know You know, fbs average was a pretty decent result I think for this defense because they were a lot worse last year top 25 would have been kind of a miracle So, you know, they're kind of somewhere near where we expected them to be I guess when you average things together I think um, I think there's a lot of signal in yards per play even though it does it does, uh You know, there is a big influence from those explosive plays But but I certainly we we in no sense. Maybe we Lean on success rate, but we certainly don't throw out yards for play at all So I do think there is some signal in there So maybe right now I would say they're slightly worse than I expected pre-season, but that's it's not too far from The outcomes that I expect It is certainly in a range where I think it's going to hold this team back And we may see that on Saturday Okay, well, let's finish up here by opening up the entire board to you when you look at the lines right now for week number seven What are your favorite bets across college football for this week? I am pretty pumped that we have one more week of fading Kentucky. So they are they're hosting Missouri and uh Kentucky went to georgia last week and got their their clocks cleaned Georgia played like the team that we expected them to this pre-season And that was kind of nice because I'm pretty sure I talked about georgia minus 14 and a half on the show Last week that was uh, that was pretty comfortable from the beginning I think what the market is saying is that okay. Well fine. We'll give you a pass. It's georgia I don't think Kentucky is a very good football team. Uh, I think devon leary is Terrible and he was last year and he continues to be this year Uh, they are 92nd in my justice success rate They really pulled off that win against florida because a lot of explosive runs by ray davis The running back on the flip side. Missouri has actually been a pretty good football team They're they're looking pretty good on both sides of the ball and my justice success rate 20th in offense 23rd on defense they came into a lot of questions at the quarterback position. Uh, but brady cook has been pretty good Uh, they did not win last week when lsu came to visit and cook looked kind of bad through pick six At the end of the game that really widened that spread but in general he's been really good this year. So, uh What i'm seeing is missouri is a pretty decent football team. Uh, I don't think kentucky is all that good and um I mean my number is favor missouri outright. I think there's a lot of value in plus two and a half on the road at kentucky So right now the two and a half on missou is minus 108 their money line is plus 116 Not a massive gap. Uh, would you rather take the points there or the money line on missou? Oh, I don't know both Sure, okay. I really don't like kentucky. I do not think they're a good football team. So, um Yeah, this is definitely definitely the last week. You'll see a little number. Well, actually, maybe not definitely Yeah, missou is pretty good too. I think they've gotten respect from the market as well So I think that you know, maybe they give them a second pass Especially if it's a you know a game where they're competitive throughout that game, but you know Like you said you did you did recommend georgia last week minus 14 and a half and I followed you on that one and Never really had any concerns. I stopped checking in the second quarter. So Felt pretty good about that one from the start. So, you know, if we can go back to back on that Feel pretty good. So missou plus two and a half is minus 108 Ed also does like their money line plus 116 right now at vandal sportsbook That is all that we have here for today on the college football side of things We are back with you once again tomorrow breaking down nfl Week number six with Ed once again as well. Don't forget prime time. Tom with Tom becky Oh, he'll be recording the Thursday night football preview for the chiefs in the Broncos Either tonight or tomorrow depends on Travis calcy status, but that'll be up in your podcast to eat A later on you can find the other covering the spread shows on the fan dual youtube page and fan dual tv Plus ed people want to find your numbers or check out all of your work. Where can they do all that? I am at the power rank.com. Check out my free sports betting email newsletter I send out five nuggets saturday every week not just my stuff, but Other people out there that I that I think are plus cv in terms of betting So Gives you a sense for who else that maybe you should follow check that out at the power rank.com All right You can find Ed on twitter at the power rank and find his other podcast the football analytics show wherever you get your podcast I am on twitter at jim sonnis j i m s a n n e s You can also follow fan dual research at fan dual research Want to thank you all for tuning in for today? We'll talk to you once again tomorrow to break down nfl week number six This has been covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network


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What's going on everyone? I got a brand new movie review for you guys today and today I'm discussing Creed 2. Creed 2 takes place a couple years after the original Creed and Adonis Creed is now the heavyweight champion of the world. But Victor Drago, son of Ivan Drago, is kind of hiding in the light and is ready to tackle Adonis Creed head first to get that championship ripped away from him. Now, of course, Michael B. Jordan returns as Adonis Creed, Tessa Thompson returns as his girlfriend, Sylvester Stallone returns as Rocky Balboa, and Dolph Lundren returns as Ivan Drago with Florin Motsion, I probably mispronounced that a ton, who's playing his son Victor Drago. Now, Creed, I think, is a masterpiece. I'm not gonna lie, I think it's the best film in the whole entire Rocky franchise. I think it's a masterpiece of its own. So you can say I was a little bit hyped for Creed 2 and a little bit hesitant too, because Stephen Cable Jr. is pretty much a new director to this world and he has some big shoes to fill with Ryan Cooler, but I'm here to say that Creed 2 is not just a good sequel, it's a great sequel. I loved Creed 2. It's not as good as the original. I'll say that there. But it might just be top four Rocky films of all time. Let's put it there. Stephen Cable Jr. does such a fantastic job directing this film from the way that the fights are going on and the choreograph for those are excellent from that. There's a couple shots in here that are just stunningly and stunning images that are just excellent. Like, I mean, it just bleeds out. It's a beautiful looking film. And something that I can even say, I think this film looks even better than the original Creed film. Don't get me wrong, the original Creed film had some awesome shots, but this film is outstandingly beautiful. Cable Jr. also gets some fantastic performances from everyone. Michael B. Jordan is better than ever. I mean, when is this guy going to get nominated for something? This guy is always killing it in every single role that he's in and he just nails it to the bone. You don't see Michael B. Jordan here. You see Adonis Creed. You see the pain. You see the emotional beats that you want him to see and you feel them. That's something that's filmed us so well. And again, another thing that Cable Jr. does so great in here is making you feel those emotional beats, but also making you feel the punches every single hit. You're gripping your thigh.  You're on the edge of your seat wanting to see what's going to happen next with every punch, every tear, every bone-shattering thing that you feel. You feel it along with Adonis Creed. And that's something that is just captured so well through the performances and the direction. But my God, Tessa Thompson, again, comes in as the girlfriend. You feel that emotional stuff with her. She's such a very underrated actress that no one is really talking about, but she's fantastic in here. Sylvester Stallone just has Rocky Balboa nailed like that. He is outstanding and it is a crime that he did not win Best Supporting Actor that year at the Oscars for the first Creed. I don't think he'll get nominated this year for this one. He doesn't have as much to munch on, to be honest. Like again, I said earlier in the review, this is more definitely of a Creed film than a Rocky movie where I felt like the first Creed film was kind of a mix. This is definitely more of a Creed film and focusing more on his story. Rocky still has some stuff to do, no doubt about it. But he's not as entwined with the story as you would think he is. Still, he does a great job. Man, I think one of the biggest surprises in this whole entire film is the Drago storyline. You really care and come to feel and care about each and every one of these characters in this storyline and in a sense for Victor Drago. You feel for Ivan as well because, you know, it never went into Drago and what happened after that Rocky fight. And 30 years later, well, you learn a lot about him and what's happened with him, his home country, and his family. And stuff hasn't been kind to him. And you see that stress getting put down onto his son. And it makes it for a very compelling antagonist that doesn't just make you care about your protagonist, but he also makes you care just as much about the antagonist. And I loved that they captured that within this film. Don't get me wrong, again, I think it's great. I don't think it's a masterpiece like the first one. I think some of the middling act is a little slow and could have been sped up a bit. There's a lot of exposition from the commentators that I don't think was needed for the story that I overall just really got from just watching the film. But again, those are gripes. Those are small nitpicks. I loved Creed II. I think it's a great sequel to the original Creed. It's a great addition to this rocky franchise. And with this story that could have easily turned cheesy, it's not. It's dramatic. It's emotional. It's powerful. And I have to say, if this is the last Creed film we ever got, I'd be fine with it. I think it ends the story perfectly for everyone. So with all that said, I'm going to Creed II and A- I'm really impressed with Creed II. Again, I look out for whatever Cable Jr. does next. I'm certainly going to be looking out for whatever this director does next. Let me know what your guys' thoughts are on Creed II. Are you guys excited for this one? Are you a fan of the original? Are you a fan of the rocky franchise? Let's talk about it down below, guys. 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You're kidding No, I'm not trading my own posse stickers for a speaker badge. I can get those anytime I want Dude, I gave this away at hacker jeopardy last night. I No, I don't want her underwear No, I mean the vinyl Vanna is crashed out in my room right now. I've got plenty of underwear to pick from All right, if you're still in this track for the next talk I still have a couple more badges so you can warn people if they have cool Shwaggy give away to trade for speaker badge That'd be cool. And now I'm I'm it's my somewhat distinct pleasure to introduce Seth Hardy somewhat distinct pleasure because every year I figure I'll just get this taken care of now because I have other crap to do right now is that Every year at Khan when he speaks here. I stand in the back of the audience and yell.  So Seth Hardy everybody I guess Nick already introduced me so the title of The title of my talk is your name your shoe size your identity. What do we trust in this web?  That is It's true Just you wait you'll see so who am I and This is actually relevant for what I'll be discussing The name of my birth certificate is Seth Hardy. I believe it's actually capitalized on my birth certificate. I'm just kind of lazy Online I use the handle shardy This is relevant.   I probably won't remember all of your names, but we'll try No So why am I giving this talk? Other than the the long long backstory to it I'll sum it up pretty quickly. I'd all started two years ago The key signing party at the Fifth Hope Yeah, it was a bit of a mess and then the key signing party here was even better and by better I mean non-existent There was booze me I did Nobody took them because people had either already signed them or didn't want them But is there anybody here who was at the DEF CON 12 key signing party any of the three other people who were there? Okay, so we have one out of three Yeah, there was there was booze, but not so much key signing and then I was part of the key signing parties at 21 C3 and then 22 C3 and All sorts of fun stuff happened there like people's keys getting signed when they didn't even show Very very bad things So it really prompted me to rant and by rant I mean talk in front of an audience about proper digital Identity management and that is what I will be discussing today. So Background who here uses PGP or GPG or anything like that. That's a whole lot of people. That's excellent Who here is familiar with the web of trust? Okay, who here is not familiar with the web of trust? All right, we got a couple people and I know that some of them are lying. So I'll give you the short short version the whole point of the web of trust is to do identity verification and trusting people when you haven't necessarily met them before so it's all about You say that you trust a friend and you trust that friend's judgment to introduce you to new people So even if you've never met that friend of a friend before you still have a reasonable Belief that they are who they claim to be It's just trust extension so that you don't need to meet everybody yourself Before talking to them because it's very infeasible So here's a diagram of a sample web of trust going from my key to other people's keys The first step removed from my key are keys that I've signed and personally verified After that are keys that I trust them because I trust the people I know as introducers That's all there is to the web of trust. It's a Conceptually very simple. It might be hard to explain in computer or digital identity terms But it's something that everybody here does every day if you have friends I can't guarantee that everybody here has friends, but if you do you do this all the time He was just in the dunk tank So here's an example web of trust Short short version. I don't know where this is from. I just pulled an image off the web and this is somebody's web of trust So I'm not here to discuss what the web of trust is just the aspects of doing identity verification and management, so I'm going to start with signing practices and You will see very quickly where this is going and you may or may not like it, but it might be funny So here the standard practices what you have to do are two things the first is you have to verify that the key is accurate and What that generally means is you check the fingerprint over a secure channel So you want to make sure that the key material? Actually belongs to the key that you think it's supposed to so if somebody is handing you a key Then you want to make sure that the key data that you get matches up with the key data that they're giving you If it's physically handed to you, that's easy if it's over the internet man in the middle of tax make that more problematic So fingerprint verification means you don't have to verify the whole thing You just have to verify a subset and it works The second step is to verify that the key ownership is accurate in terms of who does it belong to? So the general practice here is you check the name on the key Against some sort of photo ID so you ask to see a driver's license or passport you look at the name on the key And if they match up then you can be reasonably sure that the key belongs to who the key claims to be owned by and To verify the email address the common practice is you email your Signed key to the email address on the key And if they then get it and manage to upload it to a key server that it implies that they have access to read That email and it's actually theirs So pretty simple pretty straightforward in practice. It's not nearly so easy And here's one of the reasons why what do we do about pseudonyms or handles? What do we do about organization keys? Who is security dash officer at net BSD or does anybody know? Does anybody know who this person or people are? Okay, well, they've got 24 people who've signed their key and they have signed three other keys and they're only three hops from my key by four different paths and This key might belong to a team. It might belong to one person It might belong to a few people over the lifetime of the key. I have no way of knowing there's no Policy that I've been able to find that explains who is responsible for managing this key but because it is one identity It doesn't matter how many people are behind it that one identity is collectively asserting statements about trust on other keys and This is where the obvious problem comes in with digital identity management You don't have a clear one-to-one correspondence between people or a name or a face And a key and a lot of people treat it as such and to Enforce this one-to-one policy people write these extensive signing policies on what keys they will sign and what keys they won't sign and This is really a good thing because then you always know what you're getting when you see their signature on a key Even if it is completely detached from the framework of the PGP web of trust you can still go back and reference it if you want to So if you see a signature from somebody on a key and you have a signing policy you know what sort of verification for better or for worse has been done on that identity and There are all sorts of interesting key signing policies out there I'll start with a few simple ones and then get to the one that I really have some issues with and The reason for this rant So here's number one the don't make me call your parents clause Please note that I require the proof of identity Something even for people. I know personally this is taken directly from somebody's key signing policy on their website That's basically saying even if I know you and I've grown up with you if I don't see an ID of yours I don't have reason to believe or to trust you when you say this is who I am and This might make sense if you've never met the person before But if it's your childhood best friend that you've known for 20 years Then is there really a point of checking photo ID? Are there any Liabilities that can come from enforcing this sort of policy probably not but you're limiting what you can do and It just doesn't really seem to make sense. Does anybody here? Check IDs of friends every time they run into them in person after it's been a few years just to make sure they haven't changed their name anybody Okay, so This is mostly here to illustrate how Digital identity management is very very different from real-world identity management and it gets more fucked up than this so keep going Yeah, so how do you protect your keys? Yeah, I see that most people in the audience here use PGP But how do you all protect your keys? Does that does anybody have any fancy ways or do they just you guys just keep it on your computer? anybody Nobody does anything fancy Excellent. Well, they already do that for you but Anybody else? Okay, so you just keep an encrypted copy Anybody else have any fancy ways of doing this? USB key and a safety bug. Is that just a backup in case of problems? What about the keys on your standard machine that you use on a day-to-day basis? Who here has their PGP secret key with them at this conference? Can I see it hands? You're lying guys. Come on be honest. All right Not again Not again. I do I have my copy of my keys here When when somebody asks you how they keep track of your secret keys, it's You're not you're never gonna get a good answer out of it because to use something you need to have it accessible and The whole purpose of the system is to use it so best case scenario of reasonable amount of security is great but if somebody has this dream that people are Having five layers of security and never touch their keys to keep it safe then they're just eluding themselves into thinking that They are staying safer themselves by not associating with these people and that's not true and You will see more and more why as I keep going Does anybody here like have I offended anybody yet by pointing these out does anybody here subscribe to these policies if so Like just stand and start yelling at me I Nobody Okay Another signing policy is the not separation of user IDs user IDs are there for human convenience just so you can associate a key with a person and Some people have this policy that if one of the user IDs doesn't work They don't trust you so if your email is down for a day. They don't trust you if an email bounces because Your service providers disk is full then they don't know if they can talk to you encrypted because you're a very sketchy motherfucker all of a sudden I don't know why but They demand a satisfactory explanation and that is completely subjective and it How do you satisfy somebody that Wants to find fault it doesn't work and it just breaks the web of trust because then you don't build trust networks And you get these people who are security professionals Not really connected to anything But here's the best one. Nobody challenges photo ID Does anybody here not require photo ID when signing a key Please be honest. Okay, some people Can I see a show of hands for people who do require photo ID for signing keys oh Oh Almost everybody in the room raised their hands when they said that they use PGP so work with me here. Come on No, okay. Well photo ID is the thing that I'm really going to get into and This will all make sense Would you take this as a photo ID? Not not for me in general like if the person looked like that and his name was actually first middle last name I'm from the state of Massachusetts and my ID does not look like that. It's a few years old It looks similar, but pretty different and if you're using a blue book or some other if you I got this picture off of the Massachusetts government's website that they say this is what a mass state ID looks like So if you're using that as a reference for verifying photo ID you would probably not take my photo ID even though it is perfectly valid and It's it's real, but it doesn't look like this. So This one's all right though so far so good How about this one would anybody here take this photo ID? Is this guy here or something like I just grabbed this off the web because he scanned everything in his wallet and put it online I Don't know why you would do that, but this guy did I guess I guess he hates freedom or something Supposedly his but what would anybody here not take this ID if this guy was trying to get you to sign his cake One one point three. All right. Well, let's keep going. How about this one? Would anybody accept this one? I Mean with the face wasn't blurred out Anybody come on. Would you take it or no? Yes? Yeah No, why not? How about this one? There was actually a problem with this recently this X NYPD guy was going to a DOD building I think it was and he had to show ID and even though it specifically said do not take the matricula consular cards from Mexico I He brought a fake one I guess and used it and they granted him admission into the building and then it made the news it was pretty big and Their their excuse was you were already on the guest list But it is a requirement of entry to show a valid ID and this guy got into a DOD building I think it was with one of these so Maybe you see where I'm starting to go here. What about this one? No, why not? Yes, the too easy to forge. Okay. What about older? State driver's licenses that are made with the same technology. No too easy to forge. Okay Okay, so the the point being Brought up here is at some point IDs become too easy to forge Yes, you got it for $27 27 American dollars So if you've seen this one before please do not say anything I've got a t-shirt here and And let's not look at the expiration date on this ID and pretend that doesn't matter which it really doesn't But the first person that can tell me what's wrong with this ID will get a t-shirt Sorry Okay, yes So her last name is Lane Not Ellen period Lane. I found this ID when I searched for fake ID on Google images and It was one of it was a blog of hers this Sarah Lane I don't know who she is but she was writing on her blog about how she just turned 21 and this ID was great because it let her Drink for about three years and nobody caught the glaring error on it or at least nobody said that they cared So this is actually what a South Carolina driver license at that time looked like it. I guess it's It looks good it was accepted a lot of places and it had a very glaring error on it and yet nobody challenged it I don't know maybe I should track her down and ask her Or at least tell her that her pictures all over the internets now So does anybody here know who this is? Because here's her ID Ignore the rotten.com URL on it But here's her ID. Her name is Barbara Pierce. She lives at 160 Madison Avenue in Baltimore But for some reason doesn't she look kind of familiar? Did does anybody know who this is? Anybody What's her name? Why does she look familiar? Well, that's her father and That is her fake ID that she was busted with a while back I don't know if it's just a bad-looking ID or the Secret Service guys gave it away but she was going around underage drinking and This is I guess what a Maryland license looks like I have no idea Does anybody here know what a Maryland state license looks like? Does it look like that? Yes, okay So maybe you're starting to see what I'm getting at here And that's really reliance on photo ID just seems kind of silly So I don't know what a driver's license from South Africa looks like I don't know if you need a driver's license in South Africa I'm guessing you do but I don't know And if somebody Insists on showing photo ID And then they you know just show me a piece of plastic with a photo and a signature on it That may or may not work. It may or may not look anything like the real ID, but I wouldn't know And a lot of people say you can't fake IDs easily But on the other hand You don't need to fake the ID in many cases You just need to fool somebody into accepting a piece of plastic with a photo and a signature on it Even if the ID does look real or like what it's supposed to look like How many people hear Does anybody here work in a club's bouncer? Yes, uh, has it been difficult to spot fake IDs that are high quality? I wouldn't know how to do it Yeah, like if it looks like the real thing like are there secret tricks to identifying like how plastic peels Or if like you hold it up to the light and bend it It melts in a certain way or I I don't know these tricks and the bouncer friends of mine that I have Just say they just smile and nod and hand it back. So Yeah, if she's cute, it's real You know Ultraviolet, okay Yeah, yeah the the blue book, but it I've heard that it only shows current forms of ID Um, I had a friend who was from Maine And his license was a piece of paper with a photo stuck on it crooked And it was laminated using a cheap lamination machine and the the text on it was in typewriter Nobody would accept it anyways because it was the fakest thing they ever saw Except it was real it was just from like 10 years ago from Maine So the the blue book works, but it's not perfect and it it blocks a lot of people that may have real IDs So It leads to the question. How does a photo ID prove somebody's identity? You're you're not proving anything with a photo ID.   No, really who's So What happens if somebody refuses to show an ID? And this is what happened at the key signing party here at defcon two years ago There was there were two people out of the four people who didn't identify by their real names They have both they they both were speakers at many conferences before so I identified them by handle on site I I already had an idea in my head the face to handle binding uh, but To some people that's not good enough and Having a uh having an ID helps but comparing it to social networking And reputation capital It just seems kind of silly that you're arbitrarily picking one system for identity verification and choosing to completely ignore another reputation capital systems are actually very interesting and A lot of people are working on them and it just seems kind of silly Well, how many people here and I know you're not going to want to admit this, but please be honest How many people here have a myspace page?  I mean Every time you work on a system like that every time you add somebody to your friends list every time you do something like that Live journal. Yeah, you're doing identity verification to a certain degree And you're operating on the system of reputation capital and a lot of times you're not using real names And you're certainly not checking photo ID before you add somebody to your live journal Why does it matter? If you're doing it from a crypto sense, yes, you need to be more careful But why are you cutting out this entire system of identity verification arbitrarily? And specifically in the hacker scene where a lot of people go by handles It seems weird that people will not accept the handle of somebody who has been up in front of You know, how many people are in the room right now? This many people on a number of occasions year to year they're going by the same name every year It just seems kind of silly that some people will be like, oh, well I don't know what your middle name that your parents gave you is So i'm not going to sign your key even though it has not It's not on your key. It has nothing to do with your key And as we all know verifying a handle is impossible. Uh, does anybody know who this guy is? Okay I've heard both dark tangent and jeff moss, which is it? Yes Does anybody say one or the other? Everybody says both Depends on the context, okay Okay, so it depends on the context and that's really the right answer It's it is one person who has multiple identities And as such The identities might be split out over multiple keys and they might be split out over multiple user IDs But it is two identities to one person Again verifying So who's this guy? All right, moving on User IDs are for human convenience and that's the point i'm trying to make here So the user IDs on keys bind identity information to key information. That's all they do It is not a statement saying that you are absolutely this person and you only go by this name It is just saying that The key material in this key belongs to the identity of this person so Does it matter whether you guys know me as seth hardy or shardy does it matter to anybody? Would anybody be offended if I didn't go by my real name here?   You know, it's It's not separate identities. It's just one is within a certain character women is easier to type in when I want to check my email um And some people are known a lot better by their pseudonyms like uh that guy Uh some people I guess I'm known equally between the two because it's not really a pseudonym But all I'm saying is multiple identities one person and oftentimes people who go by pseudonyms are doing it So that they don't have to give out their real name because they think that people like you are scary and Don't want you to find out who they are So that raises the question why do people restrict what identity information they'll verify and Open pgp standards supports photo user IDs. I've seen very few people actually use them But I think they're one of the best things ever Because if you see somebody and they're like, I'm not going to tell you my name you can still sign their key And you can know for a fact that this person is the person that you talk to Because you've you've seen them you you see them physically and It's very hard to man in the middle attack somebody else's vision so Denial of service is another matter entirely but The man in the middle attack that's harder So photo IDs are accepted But I've never seen a phone number as a key user ID And that's probably just because most people don't want to put their phone numbers on the key server network But it just I've asked people about that and they seem very genuinely surprised So now that that's all out of the way The real reason I'm talking here is because of the Bullshit I pulled at the hope 6 key signing party and my talk there on the web of trust It was all a setup for this talk Basically, I decided to go in and see how much I can get away with I gave a talk on pgp stuff and then I did a whole bunch of key signing events there And I just tried to see if I'm in a position of responsibility What can I get away with and if I just kind of smile and nod and act like I'm in control What will people let me do and the answer is a lot And there's also the question of how much do I have to pay for a crappy fake ID in New York City and the answer to that is way too much so Let's talk about my new IDs. I got a few of them varying from complete bullshit to somewhat legitimate The first one was an international student ID. It's real It's a company that makes international student IDs and by that I mean they print stuff on plastic and Have agreements with merchants to give you discounted stuff if you show their card That's real in some cases not real in other cases It certainly does not have strict identity checking and it doesn't have a government backing it up But it will get me discounts and I did have to fact in my expired student ID to get it So there was a basic level of paperwork checking that I did have to go through to get this piece of plastic Uh, then there was the overpriced chinatown novelty ID Which very nicely says right across the top like this is not real But it has a hologram the hologram cost me an extra ten dollars I figured the hologram for ten dollars would be a very wise investment because people would be like oh, shit It's got a hologram. It's got to be real I'll talk about that in a minute And then there was also like one of my friends found some guy's ID on a street corner And when I asked him if he knew where to get a fake ID, he's like here just use this guy's So I did Didn't work so well because the guy I looked nothing like him, but I tried I tried So This one cost me three dollars in Chinatown Nobody took it It didn't even get me into the three or three party last night. Here is my Chinatown fake ID By the way, this guy's a fed I know this for a fact. I'm his landlord. He's a fed But you can see across the top of the id it's his personal non-government Photo ID card for residents of massachusetts You can also see that they couldn't be bothered to come up with a mass state logo and have a generic united states logo For every single state there is But they gave me all sorts of interesting stuff like Letting me figure out which color I wanted the massachusetts bar to be and what kind of barcode I wanted Just for the record. That's not my real social security number It's also not my real date of birth, but it's close So this is one of the IDs that I use and you can see the holograms Seal of authenticity You can also see that this ID says that my credibility status is a c I found that very appropriate so One guy said he was from texas and he was like, oh, so that's what a mass ID looks like never seen one of those before Okay, I'll sign your key And then somebody else was like it's got a hologram. So it's got to be all right I told you the ten dollars was worth it More than one person Just saw the hologram and just immediately assumed it was real And I was I was so tempted to be like that cost me ten dollars I'm sorry that ten bucks I can go buy one for you right now And that ID got me into all the defcon parties this weekend, but uh, that's really not saying much It didn't get me on a plane, but then again, I didn't want to go to jail. So I didn't try But yeah, it's it looks nothing like a real ID and people People who were local to the area cried bullshit But everybody from other parts of the country just kind of smiled a nod and some kind of looked at me pretty suspiciously But some people completely bought it and this was not even a good ID It said right across the top. This is not a real ID And people people didn't even read it even after I pointed it out They just kind of looked at it and smiled and nodded and went okay And it was fine It said across the top of it that it is fake I And these people are security professionals So here's my new key It has three user IDs on it The first user ID says that I am that guy that talked about the web of trust I've talked about the web of trust a few times. I know this isn't very specific but it is accurate And when you're signing a user ID, all you're doing is saying that I state That I believe that this statement is true and I am that guy that talked about the web of trust I'm doing it now I'm also full of shit I've also got 10 minutes, which is pretty good because I'm almost done So the second user ID and I'm going to verify it basically right now Um, I wear size 11 ish boots Um, if anybody would like to come up here, I can show you that my two boots are the same size That I'll show you the size of my boots And then you can feel my toes on the other boot to see that they actually do fit And then you can sign my user ID that says I wear size 11 boots Plus or minus one half. These are actually size 10 and a half I need to see That same size and would you like to feel my toes? Come on, Nick Oh, yeah Does it fit? Just barely it fits, but just barely So you have Nick's word on it. I wouldn't trust nick, but What? You're wearing a suit.  So I also I want to wrap it up Nick far has a posse. Does anybody want a nick far has a posse sticker first person to come up here gets it So why wouldn't or Or actually Yeah, I was wondering why my phone was buzzing a whole lot, but let me let me turn on the ringer So people actually can hear it Anybody come on come on somebody somebody this is my phone Yeah, I might have crashed again It's even got a classy ring All right, so that's my phone number. Please don't prank call me Um So why why wouldn't people take these these IDs?  I mean Yes, yes, it is Um, so is it less precise than usual? I mean on my birth certificate My full name is Seth Michael Hardy and it's capitalized, but on my key. It's Seth Hardy Um, and do you care if it's less precise as long as you know who it is? You can stop now guys. Come on Like do you really care if it is my full information or if it's just Enough that you know who I am and can reference the key later on as belonging to me Uh less relevant. I mean the phone number is pretty important. I'm I'm not going to live this one down Everybody's going to be prank calling me two years from now and It's on the cd. No, these slides are not on the cd Um, I've got a basic set that's on the cd, but my phone number is not on the cd Oh, shit, it's on the db.  I just All right So what's the goal of signing the key and the question is you want to talk to me Or do you just want to be a dick about I'm not going to sign your key because I'm not going to sign your key Some last thoughts before I wrap this up and answer and check my voicemail Identity management is hard, but we have a lot of practice doing it Everybody does it on a daily basis if you have friends and if you don't have friends now you can call me so User IDs are there for human convenience and you should take advantage of this because it is a very flexible and robust system That works because you've had a lot of practice doing it and humanity has had a lot of time as a whole fine tuning it And why do people trust bits of plastic over reputations? I don't know I'm a big fan of the reputation capital concept and I subscribe to it And I think you should too my personal viewpoint My personal viewpoint and you can agree with it or disagree as you see fit Some more thoughts Um, I'll start with that last one. Please don't prank call me. I'll be sad But I guess I've got a lot of new friends.  So That one that was not a real key It is a real key I just haven't uploaded it to key servers because I don't want my phone number on key servers Even if it will be on a def con dvd now So in a culture where pseudonyms are common I'm surprised that less people accept the concept of reputation capital Um, a lot of people will drop a handle instead of a name and people around here usually don't blank so Just something to consider Two new voice messages only two Please don't prank call me. I'll be sad Um, so that's it Uh, thank you very much for your time There's my fingerprint if you want it so If you ask questions, please come up to the mic Yes, you can call me back at three in the morning anytime you want to Oh, yeah, yeah, I can call you back.  I mean if it's only in 10 dollars, yes, but a fake idea to do key signing. Is that seem like a legitimate threat model? I am Why would I want to sign your key then I guess Or why are you trying to get people to trust your key? What are you leveraging as an attacker to get someone to sign your key? Are they going to It's not an attack. It's just showing that i'm people are limiting themselves to a subset of Trust building that they can do and that the uh self limiting in the form of Security enhancement is producing no real benefits and is only limiting themselves from the things that they want to do Yep, thanks So wouldn't you also say that it's i mean uh identification is essentially worthless If you have a threat model that includes anyone that actually issues credentials, right? I mean anyone here that looks at an id I mean who cares if it's fake or not a real id is is is essentially fake as well If you don't know a person you shouldn't there comes a point where you have to accept risk If you didn't trust anything you would never be able to trust anything But but an id is is worthless.  Someone knew that you have any reputation with and they're not in this system yet Besides, you know shoe size. What other would somebody propose as a solution a reputation capital Uh, if if you can I if you have a way no matter how weird it is The user identity binding is for you and you alone So as long as you feel comfortable with how you are binding the user to the identity It's only there for your convenience. So if you can do it for yourself do it Don't don't restrict it based on photo id So if you're comfortable with it, don't say well, I haven't seen a photo id So I shouldn't if you're comfortable with it, then it's good Is there anything you can propose in the physical world that's going to be bound in this kind of system? As someone new coming up to you without Having already established that reputation system. I mean, okay Web of trust if you don't trust somebody and no contact implies no trust then Don't sign if there's no trust More of a comment than a question You also had this problem with organizations when I moved to seattle I went to the dmv and they got my birthday wrong and then told me I had to pay them another license fee to get it corrected Um, also those international student id people I used their travel agency once and they said are you a student and I said no absolutely not not for years Not in any way and they said great snap. Here's your student id. It gets you a discount. Here you go We're doing you a favor excellent Wouldn't the new national id system just get rid of all these problems? No because it would make one target for faking appear So I think I'm getting kicked off stage now. So you should have some tequila and


Thank God There is alright, I guess this is the thing with fish in a swamp. Oh Is it a bass wait? That's a bass Yo, what's up people welcome back to another video. I hope you guys are having a blessed day Welcome back to another banger just feels good to be out right now. The rain has been going on and off It's been a very windy day. The weather is really weird, but we're gonna have an awesome day today I'm excited about it if you guys are new to the channel, please hit that subscribe button hit the notification But also hit the like button if you guys have been enjoying the content So I wanted to talk about something real quick before we even hop into this one So I actually dropped a new hat on the website. This is the KTB Cryptic edition as you guys can tell by the cryptic tag right there if you guys want to check them out You can they're on my website kicking their bass calm. I'll link them down below. I only have about 20 of them left I'm not gonna lie I put them on the website about a week ago and we sold a lot of them without me even promoting it and Like I said, I got about 20 left if you guys want to go scoop one go cop one. They're sweet I know a lot of you guys have big bass energy hats already, but it's cool to have the old muscle hats coming out We got a bunch of other cool designs coming out very soon. We're gonna be fishing this little hidden swamp We've gone here many times before I actually caught my first fish of the year there and it was a giant It was like six seven pounds crazy. It was the first fish of the year. There's some massive fish in there I'm excited to go out there and see if we can hook another big one today And we're gonna pawn hop, you know We're gonna try a bunch of different ponds these ponds that you're gonna see in today's video You guys have not seen in a very long time So it feels good to just come out and try some different places and I'm see all these fish are acting today So we're gonna go ahead and hop into it. Thank you guys so much for the support Let's get so these are the rods that I'm going to be rocking with today. I actually haven't even showed this I know I did a eye cast video over the new lose mock crush And uh, this is it guys. It is beautiful compared to the old one that It's not even a question guys. This thing is awesome It's actually one of my favorite combos by them got the full grip handle and we have some rain coming in right now That is not good, but just beautiful color beautiful design We have a little texas rig on that rod. Do not fall. Do not do that Yeah, we have a little texas rig on there and then on this one We have a lose custom pro on a mock two and we got a white chatter bait And I also brought out this little tiny uh six sense bait bag right here And there's actually some white paddle till swim base, which we're gonna need so we're gonna take these out today too If you guys want to check this out, I'll link it down below and the rain is coming in So, uh, I'll catch you guys in about five minutes. This is literally what I've been going through the last couple of days It is so annoying guys, especially when I'm trying to get out and film some cool content for you guys It's just been like raining non-stop. Like I can't get away from this stuff It's so aggravating, but at the same time as a part of it, man You know, I can't control the weather and sometimes it's just gonna piss all over me And there's nothing I can do about it, but it's part of it. This is the part that I don't film So this is kind of cool too. So I'm gonna be sitting in my car. I'm gonna check some emails I'm gonna relax for a second go on social media. Maybe go like some of y'all's post And I'll catch back up with you guys when the rain comes down the moment I shut off the camera It just automatically stops. Look at that. Well screw it.  I'm gonna walk out to my first spot. Like I said, it's a it's a good walk And now it's gonna rain all over me again Uh or I might wait a couple more minutes, but I'll catch you guys at the pond when this calms down So this is the beautiful pond that we're coming out to today We've been here many of times before and there's some really big fish in here. The water in here is actually like a tannic Water color. It's not like your normal pond Honestly, if I could relate this water to anything it looks exactly like the ogichi river water Which you guys have seen me fish the ogichi a good bit This is the little pond tucked away in this corner and right back there It actually has right here is like all swamp and nasty stuff And there's uh like cypress trees all back in there and it actually feeds into this pond So a while ago, we actually walked right over here. I was with adub And we heard something splashing around in here and this is how we kind of found this whole thing out And there's a bunch of water right there from that swamp that like pours in right here And adub actually ran over there and grabbed the fish with his bare hands It was just it was crazy and uh That's kind of how we found out this whole little swamp was back here feeding into here And if it floods a lot of the times there'd be a bunch of water that's pouring over the bank from this swamp So it's pretty cool It's a neat area and there's also some really big fish in here So we're gonna go ahead and start casting around in here. I think it's gonna be good We're gonna get those baits cover some water See what these fish are wanting today. Like I said, the last few weeks have just been extremely tough And the fish have been acting very weird with this weather They're not stable at all the weather's been doing all types of crazy stuff As you can tell by the wind in the background right now So we're gonna go ahead and get this started start casting and hopefully hook a giant today. Look at this wind It's bad It is windy today. All right. So let's get this started. We're starting off with the white chattadonk today I'm hoping we're just gonna catch some big ones guys. I I've caught some really good fish out of here. I know some big ones live in here So let's just hope that we can get a few big ones bite.  Are you serious right now? Look at that. There's a huge boil of where I lifted up my chatterbait. That's uh That's crazy actually. I wasn't paying attention. I guess I need to start paying attention when I'm pulling this chatterbait out Is there something moving right there? Or am I just freaking out?  Maybe they want this since they're not committing to the moving bait Throw it in over there. I'm actually dangling it on that bridge. Just imagine that All right. Now that should just Right here. We should get hammered Catch our first. Yep. He's on it Oh, he spit it out. Why why would he do that? Right when I threw it in there is just something pecking at it something small and I just realized I made a huge mistake I didn't bring any other crawls out here, which I've been really low on crawls But I'm sure I could describe him something up There he is Got him Yep First fish today, let's go as a bass dude Nothing big, but heck You gotta start somewhere I really want you guys to pay attention. This is why I love coming to this place The colors on these bass are awesome, man. These fish just living in this like tannic water Just make them so dark and pretty He's got that glow on them. That is awesome first fish today. It was on the crawl I honestly was about to switch back over to the chatterbait, but I ended up getting one and he's not big But guess what? You got to start somewhere. That's a good little sign that we caught one. This water feels really cold Well, that is our first fish Just praying I don't destroy this crawl the way that they're biting is just so weird Like I'm really paying attention to that and They're just oh man. They're biting so weird. I'm trying to do anything and everything to trigger one off the bite Even by hitting the end of my rod like this giving that bait a little bit of movement I think that's what keyed that last fish off the bite So we've covered this area.  Well, that's one thing we got to be careful about what we're going to do now Is get this chatterbait and just cover some water And uh the sink cast so far and I just figure out if we can get any of these active bass Oh my gosh There's no way Oh, what is that a mudfish? Wait, yes, it is. There's no way Oh my gosh. Okay. That is insane. First of all, I've never grabbed one of these I don't have any pliers with me. So I got to grab them. That is a dark mudfish I was getting ants off my shoe and I let the chatterbait sink and this guy just grabbed it I believe I can grab these by the head, right? Correct Those are some strong fish. Let me tell you Did you hear him squirm at me? That was weird. I should have brought pliers out. This is not the smartest thing God dog He's uh, yeah, this is not good. These things are stronger than I thought.  That is amazing. Okay Whoo Oh, man, those fish are a lot. I've never like actually grabbed a mud Um, you know, I usually just take the pliers and uh, you know, just shake them off and I'll try to grab that thing two or three different times and I just could not grip me. He was so slimy and just Wow Well, okay, that was very interesting. Oh my god. I can't tell if that's another mud Oh, it's big. Whatever it is. Is it a bass? Oh, it is a bass. Oh my god Oh, it's a good one. Yes Yes, there we go the three pounder. Oh man All right, my gopro is about to die, but look at that fish almost a three pounder high two if he's not but I think he's three pounds Let's go. I thought I had another mud fish. Well guys one. I'm sorry. I'm sorry about the wind too I'm sorry about my camera settings. My gopro died. I'm having to use my big camera But that is a beautiful fish close to three pounds We're gonna get her back in the water change out my gopro battery and hopefully catch another one That is a good fish and the markings on that fish Wow Thank you, baby Wow, that is just awesome I'm hoping we're gonna catch some more like that today that that was just perfect I'm not gonna lie. I have a huge fray and like I said guys. I didn't even bring pliers. I didn't bring cutters We might have to take a trip back to the car here in a little bit But I'm gonna last it out to this corner and see if we can catch another fish. That is crazy catch a three pounder right there Oh my god There he is Little tiny guy So funny how you'll catch like some brute fish in here just really good ones and Then you'll hook some really tiny ones like this But that is what our third fish today fourth fourth fish third bass Pretty markings pretty colors little tiny guy on the curl So we've actually made it out to a different pond I went back to my truck retied this chatter bait because the line is pretty frayed So we're gonna see if we can catch some fish in this one I haven't been here in a very long time and uh, this wasn't always the best pond But You know I had some fish in it. So I want to see if we can catch some today This is actually where I got the hook in my finger too last year I don't know if any of you guys saw that video, but it was in this pond right here But let's go ahead and cover some water with this chatter bait See if we can get some fish to bite and then we'll pick up that texas rig if uh, they're wanting to be really slow Oh, I got one Oh, gosh, that's a decent one Oh, yes That's a freaking good one guys Let's go. Look at that. That's a good fish Solid two number. Look at that Let's go how he destroyed my curl. That's just unfortunate. Calm down becky. There we go Look at that. That fish was fighting good He's a high one to two pounds not a bad fish at all on that crawl and I did something You know how I said I went back to my car and titled my chatter bait. Well, I totally forgot To um, grab some crawls for some weird reason I just picked that crawl up I casted around the chatter bait for a good minute casted it right off that grass and this fish had it right away That's a pretty one. Nothing huge, but that is a Good little bass and I don't mind catching them like that today Let's go ahead and get this chatter bait and cover some water since that crawl is kind of destroyed and uh If they're not going to eat it. Well, I guess we'll go back to my truck again And uh find some other crawls Wow, that's awesome first fish here and uh wasn't a bad one Oh Yes It was worth the walk boys and he choked it Oh Look at how he ate that thing I walked all the way down to this corner just to fish right here since the wind was blowing up in it And look at that got us a fish and he absolutely choked that thing. You can't get a better eating than that right there Wow, just about a one pounder, but he wanted it. We are getting this video going boys Boys and girls fish number six of the day nothing big but a pretty one It's right in this corner all this wind getting pushed up in here. He's right where he should have been Well, that's good to see other second pond today that we ended up catching a few fish there I was really hoping when I walked down this pond that I was going to catch a few before I got to that corner But the main reason I really thought there was going to be a fish in that corner It just made sense You know all that wind was pushing off into that corner and if there was any fish staged up anywhere I knew it would be back there and I walked this whole pond which is fairly big and uh I didn't have any bites until I got all the way in that corner and then boom Well, welcome back to the next day. It has been so weird with this weather It has been raining still just how it was when Left off with you guys. I don't know what's going on man. I'm tired of the weather But I'm actually just going to bring out my chatter dunk and bring out my custom pro on a mock two We're gonna hit a different pond than we hit yesterday I'm hoping to go back to some of those places But for right now with how this rain is we're gonna head a place that's near me right now And uh, see if we can catch fish. So let's uh go ahead grab a rod get down to the pond Grab a gopro strap it on and catch fish. The bite wasn't the best yesterday, but at the same time it wasn't horrible So I'm hoping to see some big fish being caught today. I really hope that's what happens There's only one way to find out It's casting in the water and see if we can get some aggressive ones So it's the little pond that we're coming out to I haven't been here in a very very long time There's some massive fish in here, but there's also a bunch of small ones But like I said, there's like when I mean massive, there's some big fish in here We've caught a few that were disgusting. So let's go ahead and start casting and see if we can catch one Right here. I feel it Had some luck in this corner in the past Hopefully we can catch one right here Oh What are you doing? What are you doing old jimmy? Are you playing with me like that, man? Oh What in the world is happening here? It might be really small. That's a good little sign. They'll get a bite It ain't a good sign that they're short striking it because that's what was our That was our problem the other day when we came out Oh, man, that's so awkward So we are back at the swamp pond that we fished at the beginning of the other day And I'm hoping we can catch a big one. I know there's some really large fish in here I think it's gonna happen. We just got to cover some water and hopefully get two to three good bites today You know, we had a good one last time. It was a solid three pounder and uh, you know There's a potential that we could catch one five six pounds today. So we're just gonna cover some water I only brought the chatter bait out which I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing So I'm gonna have to stick to it and I hope that we can catch the fish on it Hopefully they're not going to be too slow and only eat a slow moving bait But only thing we can do is keep casting and uh, see if we hook one. So let's get it started Oh my gosh Yep, it's a good bass Let's go. I didn't even move it guys Didn't even move it How you doing brother? Oh man, look how skinny that fish is what in the world No wonder you ate my bait. Look at that. That's one of the most unhealthy bass I've ever seen. I didn't even move my bait there. I threw it out there. It was stuck in the tree I was hitting it down and he ate it off the bottom But look how skinny this bass is he has like a one and a half to two pound head but I don't even know if this fish breaks a pound That is insane. He seemed a lot bigger because of his head and Man, that's crazy Well, that is our first fish. That is a good sign Heck yeah Get her right back in the water. That was a great sign and I think the conditions today are a lot better than the other day I came out here Let's do let's do it again. What is that? What in the world do I have? Is that a gar?  It is a gar Oh, he's got my line. Don't do it. Tell me Oh, oh my god, don't do it. All right Why are all these weird things happening? After that long walk I probably should have brought my other rod I will catch back up with you guys in about 20 minutes. Dang it. I will be back Alrighty, we have finally made it back to the pond Got me an old chatter.  I didn't think I had this one So, uh, hopefully we'll catch him now. We gave it a second for this spot to replenish I knew there was a lot of fish over there. So hopefully we're gonna catch them. I'm excited Well, this is not a light rain It is coming down right now And it is just getting worse Oh, and it's gone. Just like that Well, what in the world is wrong with the way? Look at this. It's literally going down the pond It's just Is that not weird? The weather is so Jacked up That was the most random storm I've seen Oh my gosh, are you kidding me? I already came off. Thank god There is all right, I guess this is the thing with fishing a swamp Oh, is it a bass? Wait, that's a bass.  That's a good fish almost three pounds Holy cow guys We are talking right now boys Look at that. I had a mudfish hooked Now I was I was talking about that's what we get for fishing a swamp like this You know, we're going to catch a bunch of mudfish and gar and just nasty fish And then all of a sudden I saw a wake behind my chatter bait I was about to pull it away because I thought it was another mudfish or maybe the same mudfish that just came off and It's a freaking bass


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