What they gonna do with me now? I'm still a troke of the town. I'm holding the sisters, I'm hooking them down. Reaching the smiles and the frowns. Gang hop out, then we claring the frowns. What's up y'all, it's your girl Rihanna Imani and you're tuned in to another Token of Town interview and who do we have in the building today? You know the vibes, it's your girl Stunna Dior, AKA the biggest. Yes, we got my girl Stunna Dior in the building. And we got a lot of stuff to get into, but before we do, we're gonna play a quick round of rap if I have questions, all right? Okay. First thing that comes to mind, got it? Favorite word? Stunna. Best thing about living in New York? Stunna. Ah, don't do that. You said the first thing. We're not about to do that. Bro, all right, all right, all right, all right. All right, I'm gonna give you like two seconds to think about it. All right, the best part is the vibes, fool. Okay. It's always lit, it's always something. Unpopular music opinion. Unpopular music opinion? I like mainstream music. Okay. I feel like that's a popular opinion. I guess it depends on who you ask. Nobody I know is they don't want to hear no mainstream music. But I listen to, well, mainstream art, they like to hear like the sideline cuts and stuff. But I like to listen to also what's the big records because it's what we try and do. You feel me? I like a good balance. I feel like- Yeah, it's a balance. For me, I hate, I say this a lot, like especially in an R&B space more than rap. Like I hate the underground to mainstream pipeline because I feel like the music just doesn't hit the same. So I can understand when people listen to like the underground music more than they do the mainstream. But that's why I like to listen to when it's already lit. I don't want to listen when you try to figure it out just when you got the number one. But sometimes it'd be better. Like I feel like even like the weekend- It's good to listen. I feel like, but that's, it depends on what you're listening for.  So it's like once you kind of understand there's a recipe I'm listening, but it gets recipe, you know what I'm saying? Okay, that makes sense from an artist's perspective. That definitely does make sense. All right, favorite fast food restaurant? Shit, Chick-fil-A. Period. Zodiac sign. Yeah, I'm Aquarius. The bestest. All right, not too much. The vibes. Not too much. Big earrings, I like to own my earrings out there. Most annoying trait in a partner? Complaining. I'm gonna keep saying that. Like don't be complaining to me. Please. I've already got it out of stress. I don't need to hear you complain it. If you got to say anything to anyone, who would it be and what would you say? So like if you had the chance to say anything to anybody, who would you say it to and what would you say? Oh, I need to figure out how to get a billion dollars. So I got to talk to Oprah J. I got to talk to them. You feel me? I got to see what's good.  See that part, okay. Biggest turn off. I know I said most annoying trait, but what's the biggest turn off? So they didn't even start complaining yet. What did they do to turn it off?  Ew, why are you wearing those pants again? Not why. Watch them, babe. Why are you wearing them pants again? Really go crazy. So, okay. So what's the timeline?   You can wear them again, just wash them. Okay. That's fine.  That's nice. Nah, I sit and wear your babies outside.  Okay, I definitely agree with that. Something that people love that you hate. What? Something that people love that you hate. I don't even know what people love. I don't.  Oh, stuff that people love. I don't like mayonnaise. Mayonnaise? Okay. Like, not on sandwiches or nothing? I don't really like white sauces at all. Just give me hot sauce, please. Oh, man. Wait. Wait, you need sandwiches? No, with mayo. Like, it's got that mustard. Okay, so you got some kind of sauce. I'm like, mm. All right. Favorite season? Oh, I like the summer, to be honest. Well, I like that spring-summer transition, like, right now. Like, before, you see me, I couldn't wait.  Like, is it hot? Is it cold? It's a little cool in the night. I put on my boots, because you can't be wearing boots when it's 90. Now you're bugging. But I don't want my toes to be cold. And I got on the shorts. Like, it's got to be that 75 where you could do whatever you want. Yeah, we was literally talking about that earlier. I was like, I feel like this is the time where you could be in a spot with somebody that got a hoodie on, somebody got a t-shirt, somebody got shorts, somebody got... Like, it could really be anything. And it's like, everybody gets a pass, because we don't know what we're getting. This is perfect, and it's not too cold to where you don't want to stand outside and smoke a split. Like, if you want to vibe, you want to enjoy outside. And I feel like New York is only like this for about two days, and that's over a year. Yup, now it's about me blazing hip hop, and already y'all thought. Favorite underground artist? Favorite underground artist. Shit. Me? Another favorite underground artist. Shit, who do I like? Let me think. Who do I be listening to? Damn, I be listening to so many mainstream people. And my friends is the only underground people that I really listen to. Okay, shout out one of your friends. All right. Okay, shout out to y'all. Nah, the general shout out to y'all goes crazy. Stuna, you not about to do this. You not about to do this. If you don't shout one person out at this point. Nah, I'm already shout out to all the people I got features with. Everybody I got a feature with. Shout out to you. Shout out to Trev Moolah. Shout out to Luciano Baby Viru. Shout out to everybody that I got a record with too. Shout out to Rowdy. Shout out to Afro Beats Kitty. Everybody I got a record with too. Steph G, you know what I'm saying? She's moving. Lola, everybody has to do it. Shout out to all of them, but you know, that was such a safe answer. Cause I told you earlier, I just be listening to mainstream artists. I really don't listen to underground artists like whatsoever. Like you already gotta be established if I'm gonna put you on my playlist cause you gotta have your vibe. That's interesting. I listen to underground music all day cause this is all, I'm in the underground. So everywhere that I go, it's just unheard of music, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, okay. Like I do shows all the time. So I hear like 60 artists that's all new. So that's why I said the only ones I listen to are my friends, Moolah, Moolah, Dev Jim. People that I'm really working with and I got records with cause I really support they moving. You know what I'm saying? I like it. The people that I'm seeing, the Steph G's and all these people that we out and I support their music, I listen to it, I do music with them. Those are people that I'm moving. That makes so much sense. And we're gonna get into it cause we were supposed to be doing a quick back and forth but I'm definitely gonna circle back. Cause you try and blame me cause I always got some deep logic behind it. I'm like one of them fake deep, deep people. I might say something light or like do something spontaneous and people don't understand but I always got a reason behind it. That's the second time that I asked you about something. The math was math then. All right. Favorite clothing brand? COVID. Clothing. Your favorite coat man. Pfizer. Yeah. Shout out to Shopakira. I have the sponsorship with them. I love Shopakira. I like a lot of dope up and coming designers like Domo Zillionaire and Riches by G. These are people that, you know, style celebrities designed for them that's up and coming and make stuff. And then obviously, you know, Dior for Dior. If you do a Dior, Dior. Okay. And one word to describe 2023. Oh, roller coaster. But it's up. I know that's right. Yeah. Up, never down. Oh, the coasters do go up though. We roller coasters definitely do go up. Yes. And you know, sometimes I don't really like roller coasters. Slow, rocky. They make me sick. Yeah. I don't like, I'm more of a rides girl than a roller coaster girl for sure. A rides girl, not a roller coaster. What's the difference?  It's so funny because I was just having this.  It's not on a track. It just moves. You want a little mini choo choo train?  But like, you know, like the pirate ship. So like even the ones that be going around like this, I rather those than a roller coaster. Those things that swing and go like that, those make you want to throw up too. Yeah. No, I'll go on those. It's just something about like the motion on a track. She said I'm a rides girl. I need to cruise. I don't need to be. Yeah. I don't like being on the track. I don't know. Yeah, but I'm the nation ship. Yeah, I don't need to know. Like, and then also like I'm low keys, get a height sometimes. So like all I would need that's what it is. Just to get up like that and get stuck. Right. No, no, no, or upside down. Oh, imagine getting stuck outside. I don't even want to imagine we're not going to do that. Because yeah, no. All right. So I mean, I'm very excited to speak to you because I've been following on Instagram for a minute. I see you doing a whole lot of stuff. You wear so many hats.    You have like so many credits under your belt. So I'm so excited to get into a lot of these things. But first, let's talk about Mother's Day because you and your mom posted a nice collab post on your Instagram. It was so pretty.  Shout out to Mama Stunna, Mom Duke. Shout out to Mama Stunna. How was your Mother's Day? My Mother's Day was calm. Like my mom, she lives between Africa and Arizona. So I only really get to see her like once or twice a year. She's working really hard. Everything that she's doing over there and I'm working really hard over here. So, you know, it gets really hard for us to see each other on the holidays and stuff. But we just making little sacrifices. Yeah. And the love is there. The picture is definitely gave everything I need to give. So you said that your mom is traveling back and forth between Ghana and Arizona. Were you raised with like Ghanaian, a lot of like Ghanaian tradition and culture? Not with a lot of Ghanaian tradition because I was born in Detroit. So it was like, I'm from Detroit originally. So I grew up with more of that culture than anything. Oh girl, I know. The music, but like the influence of like the African culture kind of came later in our life as we got more tapped in and through our travels and our ancestry. And I had a, like, I did a lot of philanthropy like when I was coming in. And that was just like different work with schools in Africa and villages and building fresh water wells and going over there. So I was doing a lot of things. And that is a part of what kind of helped me tap in with the culture even more. And, you know, tap in with where I'm from. And that led to my mom becoming a queen chief in Ghana. So she's actually a queen chief in Dosa Manas. So that's why those pictures were like in our actual like heritage clothes and stuff. Yeah. And the royalty, the nice guy. Like that's so, that's so interesting. Yeah. So, okay. Wow. So how was your, how was your music received by your mom? Like how, or your family in general? How's your music received? My parents love it. I feel like all of my creativity is starting to house. So it's like, even with my mom, she's like, she an entrepreneur. So she does, she loves fashion. She loves, like even though it's different things that we do, you know what I'm saying? She just loves all of that. So I send my music off. She be telling me like, yo, you should sample this and put this in there. Like she's really, like she loves it. Oh, she likes the diversity. You know, and people always ask like, am I dad too when I send my music home to Detroit? Cause he's in Detroit. Like, you know, if I'm doing a different beat, I definitely send it over. Like, let me know how you feel about this. And, you know, my family's super involved in like, you know, like the sound of my music and stuff like that. They, they, they like the vibes because I could trust them. So I know if it's wack, they gon' tell me it's wack. Right. And support definitely goes a long way, especially when it's coming from your parents or people who you, who raised you. Like, and like you say, you know that if something's not right, they gon' let you know. And you know there's no ulterior motives or anything like that. They're going to give you the real. And it's like, I'm here by myself, like I've been living in New York over 10 years, you know what I'm saying? I'm in New York. I've been here by myself this whole time. So it's like, I, they don't always get to see every single thing. So I kind of have them a part of the process when I can't FaceTime them in the studio, you know, like sending a rough draft over or something like that. So then I got to wait till I shoot a video when I'm shooting and later down the line because they're not here. So it helps me just feel connected overall because it's not like they really come out to my shows or whatever dope experience is. But technology makes it happen. FaceTime. I love it, right? So, so let's start from like the beginning. So first, when you think about your childhood, I know you grew up in Detroit. Think about your childhood. What song is the first song that comes to mind that you will be listening to like as a kid? Oh, so it's like, it's really three things that popped in my head. So during my childhood, like growing up in Detroit, y'all know Detroit got the infamous Detroit beats that are really popular. So back in Detroit, when I was a kid, there was a group called like the Cheddar Boys and like Blade Icewood. I know that even cashed out. She just sampled one of the famous I'm a Cheddar Boy baby, one of their songs. I remember all of the lyrics to all of the music like that growing up. And then I remember the first time that I really like conceptually could like, you know, start understanding the rap lyrics or whatever. And it was around the time that Jay-Z had dropped, I think like the blueprint or the black album. It was one of them. And you know, I just like fell in love with that. So it's like, those are the vibes. Okay. That's the childhood, yeah. When Jay-Z dropped the blueprint, damn, all right. The board of black album, I think it was the black album. I was like, wait, hold on. We used to listen to that in the house, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, I can remember being really young. My parents listen to everything, my depot, that stuff. I can remember Foxy Brown. I can remember all of it being played like as a little kid. So you grew up with a lot of culture, it's like hip hop culture. Music, hip hop culture. It's the motor city. Like it, that's what I'm saying. People don't understand that just Detroit, everything is about music. You feel me? Motown records, Kid Rock. Like there's so much. I went to the Wynans Academy, which is like the Marvin Wynans family school. They have a charter school, a private school, where it's for the arts. So it's like they teach you how to read music and play like instruments and stuff. Even like they had Oprah came to our school. You know, Tyler Perry came to our school. Like I was able to be a part of that, going to Fox Theater. So it was like very musically inclined from when I was a kid, just as like being involved in it. You know what I'm saying? So I always loved it. I didn't think I was gonna be a rapper and either that's crazy. See, that was gonna be my follow-up. So you were going to the school. So clearly you were musically inclined and it was something that you were interested in. But what was the vision that you saw for yourself at that time? Oh, when I first started, so I was rapping from when I was little, but I just didn't think that I was gonna like grow up to be a rapper. It was just a part of like rapping with my cousins and my uncles.  I was stunner Dior. Yeah, the rapper. So you was always stunner Dior. 15, 16, I was rapping from when I was little kid. 15, 16, I was always stunner Dior, the rapper. What? They got some receipts where you go see me like new music coming soon. It was like 13 years ago. So stunner, of course I have to ask you. So who gave you the name first of all? Who gave you the name stunner Dior? I gave the name Dior.  I was like a new stunner. Yeah, okay. And what is the stunner to you? What does the stunner mean?  You could just have like, I feel like it's a vibe. You feel me? Like the stunner is a vibe, it's a presence. It's like extraness of, extraness, happiness, extra swag, extra vibes, I'm extra tall. Like you feel me? I'm extra lit, like I'm extra cute. Like it's just extra. It's just extra. Okay.  I feel like you're not only just confident in general, but you're confident in yourself, you're confident in your craft. How have you maintained that confidence in yourself? Like what pushes you to keep that energy? The fans and the supporters. The fans and the supporters are the people that really, really, really push me like to go, to keep going because sometimes it's been like me, I've been in industry for a while. So it's been a long, that's why it's like, this is second nature to me. I've been, this is the only thing I know. So I'm really comfortable because I've been doing this my whole life. But it gets hard because you sometimes don't always feel like, oh, is things happening quick enough? Especially when you get used to doing stuff. Like it's like, is this a good moment? Is this not? You don't know. But the people that like pay attention to your stuff and message you and show you love, like, oh, you're doing so good this year or this. Or I know the people that notice, those are the people that's like, okay. Cause I get a lot of messages about like people that have been following me from when I first moved to New York. So I'm like, wow, thinking about all of the stuff that I've posted since then and watching. And it's like, wow, so it's not just me. You know what I'm saying? Like other people have interests. Well, I'm gonna just start posting regular stuff on Instagram and let go of everything else. Right. And that definitely makes it worth it for sure when you know that people actually enjoy what they're doing. Yeah, when they enjoy and get the feedback, you know. That's what really helps. So from my knowledge, I know that so you were living in Detroit, then you moved to Arizona, right? And then from Arizona, you moved to New York. Yeah. So what was your favorite place to live in from three? Period. I know that's right. Right here. New York City. Harlem. Harlem. What was my favorite place to live? Harlem was your favorite place, really? Yes. So I'm not gonna out your business if you don't want it outed, but you're not currently living in Harlem. So what separates Harlem from where you live in now? We ain't gonna make this Harlem versus Brooklyn. And like, it's like, yeah. I mean, I'm a Brooklyn girl, so.  Exactly. You're definitely making it Harlem versus Brooklyn. That's what everybody does. I feel like that, well, you know, Harlem, everybody, like the energy of like the fashion and I feel like people are always outside and they have a different, more outgoing energy. In Harlem, it's like people, it's so close to the city. So you get that different vibe of like just being able to go right there and then you still get like dapper dance chilling on the corner, you know what I'm saying? You still get like people out rapping. You still get the processing. You still get pieces of everything all right there, very close, you know? So it's like. Yeah, I will argue with you on that. Harlem is very concentrated in culture, especially cause like there are places in Brooklyn that you can get that, but because, you know, we're talking about a bigger place, of course. It's very spread out. You get a few blocks and stuff like that in Brooklyn, but in Harlem, it's like you just get that energy overall. Right, I definitely, I can see where you come from. So if you had to take, or if have you taken, no, no. What's one thing that you've taken from each of the places that you've lived in that you feel like you either still practice or still think about from each of the places that you lived? I take it all in. I feel like New York's a big melting pot. So, you know, and New York's a melting pot and I always remember that the opportunities and what's here, because when you get here, you could get sensory overload that you just don't even be doing stuff because it's so much. You're so used to having so much options. But when I go on tour, when I pop to other places, if I go visit somebody in Arizona, you don't got any of that. No food options, no party options, no easy access to get places. You don't have that. So it's just like I always think about what those places have and appreciate where I'm at based off of that. You know what I'm saying? And take that with me. Everybody has a different demographic of people. How it was growing up in Detroit where like Detroit is really the hood. So it was like some spots in Brooklyn that I'm not scared to walk through the P's in Brooklyn. I'm scared to walk down East Side in Detroit. Like, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's just understanding where you are, but also understanding like what's going on in that area and why it's like that.  I'll be outside. Like I'm one of those people that's like, I'm a people person. I'm not too scared to like come in a different area and really embrace everybody that's around because you get that motivation from everything, you know?  I know you're outside. We've seen you in your posts and stuff. How important do you think it is for an artist to be outside in real life and not just like on social media and stuff like that? Do you think that that contributes to an artist's success? Yeah, I think it depends on the artist though. Not everybody gotta be outside, you know what I'm saying? I think that it's necessary to make sure that you could touch that fan base that you're not touching on the internet and the actual in-person connection, you know? And that's what really started making me come out because for a while I was just an internet person. I was a model, just modeling and only posting a lot on the internet. So when I would go out, people would recognize my pictures and they would recognize my work or there's a stunna from this and that, but people didn't know my vibes. Like they didn't know me as a person. So it wasn't, I felt like when I started going out, you get to connect with people, you know what I'm saying? So they really get to like invest more, you know what I'm saying? You get to really vibe with people and really build that cold fan base that like is gonna love the different things you do. So I feel like it's important in that aspect to go out.  I don't know when I'll lose friends.  They could be having, they just may not know how to deal with so many people. Sometimes they don't know who you are. Sometimes people acting too Hollywood. Like it's like, yeah, we know you online, but who are you in real life? Let's connect. You gotta connect with people so they can continue to support them. And that's what I was gonna say. I felt like it's tricky. Obviously I'm not an artist, but I think that I can see why an artist would feel the need to like go out and like make their presence known just because there are so many people that are doing it right now. So yes, you may, it may hurt you. That's where you get your money, it helps you. Honestly, that's the real reason that you see people outside. That's the part of the, that's the bag. When you in the clubs, you're getting paid to be there. You're getting people to shazam your music that never heard it, like that's outside. Cause not everybody's on the internet. You know what I'm saying? The internet seems like it's everything, but a lot of people is not on there just discovering the next artist. Like they're just following their family and their friends. So it's like, you still have to really tap into different markets and different audiences and get that money. It's gonna come faster than streams. They pay you that booking, boop, boop, boop. You run through there? I mean, and I will say this. You're fortunate to be able to get paid for your club appearances. Cause I go outside. People want to get paid and they don't go outside. And that's what I was about to say, but I know, and I understand that you've built that for yourself, but for people. But I did mad free stuff. Right. And so that's what I was about to say. For the people that are still coming up, there's still a window where you have to take those hands. That's what I'm saying. And make those connections. Too many people act, they want to skip steps. You know what I'm saying? You can't really skip steps like that. You gotta be like, all right, I'ma put the work in. Now I can pack out a party, a club consistently. You know why?   Like if you came out to support me, I'ma show you love. So they gonna always come back cause they know it's a situation. Right.  You know what I'm saying? And you know, I think that's good. And it's free marketing. So what you were saying before, you were saying like, you know, if you're awkward, then you could just stay in house. But I think that there's also a level of, like it's a learning opportunity too.  No, but I just not that I mean the awkward dudes that's like, it's a lot of rappers that I've been around and they just not people persons cause they think everybody's out to get them. You know what I'm saying? So it's like really you're blocking your fans.  You don't wanna. I can understand that. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to talk to nobody. Like, oh, this all you got. You're really stunning yourself. You're hurting yourself more than you're helping. Yeah, okay. You're stunning yourself. I can definitely, I, okay. Once again, this goes back to what you were saying. Like sometimes you say stuff and it's like, wait, but let me just pick your brain about this. But it's like, okay, it definitely makes sense.  Big. This is the, am I doing it again? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I think I'm versatile. You know what I'm saying? I think that my style is like, and it's distinctive in my voice and my cadence, but all my music is different. Even the stuff like, you know, I've been being slow with like dropping, but my voice is crazy and I've been, I'm so excited for when we tap into like the new sound of what we're creating and stuff like that and learning how to use your instrument. You know what I'm saying? It's a learning process. I feel like sometimes artists get too excited and they drop everything because they think it's good. And sometimes you might do better the next time that you work on something else. So now it's like, I want to choose the best, you know? I think it's so interesting because you're so pretty and your voice is so like gritty. It's so like, I don't know. Like I love when a voice doesn't match the expectation and look like look wise that I would have for a person not to say that. Okay. I don't want to say too much. Yeah. Like I felt like when I, yeah.  I felt the same way about Brent Fias too. Like when I heard him, I like pictured him one way. And then when I saw him, I was like, this is definitely not my head. And he has a very like a soft angelic voice. Bibi also. Bibi, when I heard him, I was like, oh yeah. And he had that voice from young. I had a clear picture of what I thought that he would look like. And then I saw him like, this is the same. Like it just didn't line up. And I felt like what you was like, wow, you're so pretty. Like, I would expect your voice to be like so dainty and like, but like now you really like, like you said, then you be talking at talk. But I also feel like to what you said about versatility, it seems like, at least from what I've been seeing that you kind of like keep up with what's, like what's trending at the same time.   And I was like, okay, I like that. How important do you think it is to keep up with the trending like sounds? Do you think it's important? It's a 50-50.  So I just like making fun music and I like to make music that I would listen to. So I don't think like when I listen to my music, it's always trendy and the like way that I do it, even my drill songs, it's not always the same. If I have one another drill beat then I could rap like that.  Like that's what it is for me. Like so it's like finding vibes that you sit well in a pocket of, you know what I'm saying? And just doing you on it, but still making sure that it's relatable to the audience. And that's the special part.  Unless you already are for sure like shooter, when you coming in with like a total different vibe, like your marketing plan got to be so much more stronger. Yeah, I think that as long as it's not a copy and paste, I think it can work for an artist. If you make music, not all of your music, especially if that's not what you want to do in the long run. But if you make a song to like a Jersey beat, you make a song maybe to like a little drill beat, if that's what you're into, just so that you can show that you got it and you can add a little different twist to it. Like I said, not a copy and paste, not doing something that you know you can do. You know that copy and paste thing kills me because this is another reference back to like the mainstream thing that I was saying to you. When you listen to mainstream music, nobody sounds like, like it doesn't sound like Mickey, Cardi, who have made nobody's voices distinctively the same. Everybody sounds different, even if they're making a similar type of Jersey music, all of the mainstream artists and the people that are big, all are distinctively different. You get what I'm saying?  You can't be on copy and paste and expect to like get put on for that because they already have that. What's you, what makes it different? Why do people want to come to you for it if they can go to somebody else for it? So where I think that that gets very like tricky is you're very right. Like I'm thinking about it to try to figure out if there's anybody I could think that, because even people that sound similar have differences where it's like, you can tell who, like who's who. But then I'm like, what if there's somebody that just so happens to sound like Nicki? Does it mean that she doesn't? They're just people, they're just not out there. But they're not mainstream, right? But I'm saying like, do you think it's because there's only one person that has that sound? They'll just give the song to Nicki if it's that great. Like they'll just give it to her.  Like, the fact that there's people's voices that's like other people and they do get lit for also having that sound. But I think that at some point you gotta branch off to something that's gonna make you distinguishly different. You know what I'm saying? Or you don't want to seem like you're constantly copying somebody, right? So it's like, if you just, if you sound have a voice like that person and you're trying to make the same exact music as that person. And like, you know what I'm saying? Like it happens, but then people be having a total different look. You know what I'm saying?  And like- That's dope. No, like you saying that really has the wheels turning because the first person that I thought about was like when Dusty first came out, everybody was comparing him to pop. And something that you just said was if you look different, if you have something that sets you apart, maybe if you're from a different place, I feel like Dusty very much, they had similar voices. They were from like close and very close proximity. They made like similar type of music. Yeah, so I can't help but wonder if that's kind of like- I feel like it was still different. Like Dusty's music rolling and controlling doesn't sound like Meet the Woo or We at the Party. You feel me? It doesn't. But what I'm saying is- His voice is similar, the vibes is similar, but the actual lyrical content and the delivery of what they was talking about of some of the stuff was totally different. You feel me? It was, but to you. And I feel like he still also developed more into his artistry from that. No, I completely agree. My whole thing is to the average consumer, that's a conversation that was happening a lot. And I wondered if that was something that was kind of keeping Dusty from reaching that mainstream level. I don't know. But I just thought about similar people, similar sounds and it was something that happened to my mind. But that was because they were worried if he was being authentic. But when you show that you are being authentic, then people rock with that. They just wanna make sure you're not, being trying to be somebody else that you're not. Free Dusty. Yeah, free him. So, you perform at a lot of like upcoming showcases. You recently just went, you were at South by Southwest a couple of months ago doing your thing out there. You just came back from DC. You was doing your thing out there. And even in the city, you perform at a lot of the showcases that happened over here. What was the most memorable showcase that you've performed at this far? Oh, I spent so many good ones. But I liked performing at the Daniels Leather Fashion show that I headlined with Zersteed, we're working with Krishan and Face and everybody was there yet. That was really dope, just because, you know, just as coming from being a model for one.  And kind of being that space that was one of my favorite. And of course it was a lot of dope people in the building. And the whole South by Southwest experience was dope too, because I was doing like five shows a day. And so I did like 15 plus shows for South by Southwest and that was my first time ever going. So it was really dope to like be able to go in these markets and like, I ain't know so much walking girl, nobody told me to see, nobody said do not wear those shoes. Cause like, it's literally like you're going from place to place. Any shoes is bad shoes, I should just wear slippers. Like it's too much for me. I mean you said five shows a day, I don't know. And it's a strip. So it's like you're going here, here, here. I would have to put some crocs on or something. That's crazy. So the whole experience was good for you. Do you feel like you were able to make connections? And like, did you do feel like you benefited from that experience beyond the performance aspect? No, absolutely. Just being able to go in different markets and like tap in with people that you already connected with and see it move together. Like I was able to move in as a unit out there because I had support from a lot of people that was from different states and records with other artists that was moving. So, you know, the reception was like super great. Like it was great to go in places and they already knew what was happening. I did my on the radar out there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I saw you body dab by the way. Thank you. So it was like that's just like a home connection and being able to come in different markets and still knock stuff out.  So I feel like I definitely broke a record, like break records. That's what they say it's for, right? Self by self for us to go down there and break a record because you want to go down there and let the right people hear it to where they like now they in tune with it. And I felt like I did that. And it was dope to come and see like other people, you know, that's moving in different places and really catch up. So when it comes to the showcases that happened in New York, how did you get into? Do you remember what your first one was? Yeah. You do? What was your first showcase? My first showcase. In New York, yeah. Oh, I don't know what it was. Oh, that's what I was like. I know it was my first show. It was in Atlanta. That's why I broke it. I was on tour. Okay. And then I came back and I performed that up. Oh, actually, I'm lying. I remember my first time that I did perform Drusky show. It was a feature that I did before I ever dropped my first record. That was my first show in New York. And it was one of those shows that like, I forgot what they call it. But yeah. Yeah. So that was like my first one. And then the first time I performed was crazy because the show then there got shot up in Atlanta. So that was like my first time performing my song. It was very packed. It was a good experience. It was like, the crowd was very receptive.  Damn. So it was like, I'm like, damn. Never a dull moment, right? So do you have any performance rituals?  No. No? You just do it? I just do it anytime. You want me to perform right now? Yeah. No. Wow. That's like, you're really a natural. I feel like I would need to get a couple like wussahs, probably prayers. No, you know what happened?  You might be arguing. You might have people that's like trying to, you know, get in the way of positive opportunities or whatever the case is. You just got to be ready. And I feel like that's when I perform the best is like when I'm under that pressure. That's a true performer. That's a really true performer.  Something that I found interesting though was that you were Meg's body double in her BITCH video, That's Fire. How did you get into like, how did that happen? Yeah, you know, I started off modeling. So when it was time I was over COVID, I was doing music videos because the industry was pretty much shut down. But like nobody was touring or nothing. But everybody was home was doing videos. And that was like the time that I also started doing music. So it was crazy because me and Meg are the same sign. We both Aquarius and our birthdays are like two or three days from each other and we the same age. And we both only childs. These are our facts, right? So it gives double visually and. Yeah. So when I was able to, and I was at my brand at the time. So when I came to the set, I had initially cast it. I submitted, somebody messaged me and told me about that to submit to be the body double and I did. And I didn't get the job as the body double at first. Somebody else got the job as her stunt double. And then when I got there and they had the like main girls that was doing it. I was one of those girls. I was going to be one of the girls that was like her backup dancers. But when their stunt double came in, she didn't look anything. She was way shorter than us and everything. So they was like, no, like who did this? We got like, she's sitting right here. Let's do it.  Like it was super dope when we came out there. I brought her some merch, like some glasses stuff. Cause if we shot it, we actually did the video in the month of our birthday. It was like a few days before our birthday. It was an aquarium. So it was aquariums affair, you know what I'm saying?  She was like, oh, hey, it's me. Like, wow, that's so, that's so great. It was a really dope experience. We've ride in a rave but she's twerking out the roof. We're just riding through Brooklyn and people are like, oh, look, so. That's so dope.    Like we're not there to like sell anything, but it's good to network, you know what I'm saying? So I just worry about being like the most, like professional at that specific job. So they call me back for another one. Like I'm not there like, oh, I can rap too. Like, okay, move, you know what I'm saying? And I ask you that because I think that there's a lesson to be learned in that. Every time that may seem like there's a good time is not. And I think that a lot of people think like, oh, I'm in a room with Meg. So let me just like, it's not always appropriate. It's a distraction sometimes to what they have to do. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it's just like being conscious of what really is the good time and stuff. So definitely I took the like, when I, after we did the video, when I took the sign, I brought her a gift and that was from my brand and everything to her happy birthday.  That's the shameless plug right there. That's how you, yeah. Then you were able to kind of chop it up. So it's about, you know, the right time and the right moment. You don't want to be overbearing. And then also you don't want to be trying to overly sell yourself, you know what I'm saying?  Yeah, too dependent. Yeah. So, would you work with me? Um, yeah.  I love the women. I love the women, the whole women in hip hop. This is a great time for me, honestly.  Like you can't do stuff with this and everything. There's a couple. And the underground and mainstream, even here, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, you did a song with her. I don't want to do a song with you. Like what? Yeah. Have you learned into that? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of politics. Especially because I'm the friendly girl. I actually have independent like relationships one on one with all like the females that's moving. I have a good relationship with them.  And you know, so there's always so many politics and I feel like, especially in New York, like when you get out the, when you get in other states and stuff is different. Like you embrace each other, you went together. But here, sometimes it get a little hard because everybody kind of, it's like they competing for one spot. Like just one spot.  Yeah, that's what it is. Because it's like crabs in a bucket.  That's not what it is.  I mean, and I really hate that. Cause I, what I will say is, once again, from a consumer perspective, it seems like the ladies are collaborating.  But I think overall, this is the most collaborative time that I've seen women in hip hop. It's cause there's only so many women in hip hop now. Yeah. So it's like. But there could also be. There should be a lot more. I don't feel like it's enough to be honest. I definitely don't feel like it's enough. There could be more, but then there also could be a lot of women that are in hip hop and not working together. I feel like now, like people are really coming together, they doing features, they collabing, even if it's some content. I mean, even just now, we had Sierra just did a song with Lola and Lady London. And we just had the Bad Bitches collab with Callie and Lola. And who else though? And like. What you mean like mainstream? Yeah. Nicki Minaj did a song with Ice Spice. Nicki Minaj, not Freaky Girl, she did. That's her artist though.  What you mean? Like she signed Ice Spice too. So it's like that's her artist. Nicki signed Ice Spice? Yeah. I know she signed London Hill. I didn't know she signed Ice Spice. That's why they did the record too. That's Tee, I did not know that. I knew she signed Ice Spice. Wow. See, I just learned something. Cause my whole thing with Nicki and Ice Spice doing a song together was, I was like, damn, Nicki signed London Hill, but they haven't made, well, London Hill got on the, I think it was the Freaky Girl mix. But they didn't like do a song together and she didn't hop on any of London songs. But I was like, damn, she hop on Ice Spice. Cause she got a role London out. I feel like she got to make her to hit and then she hop on with her boom, when they do it together. And I feel like Ice Spice, her is the right price. I really didn't know that she signed her. That's Tee. That's interesting. It's perfect timing for it. And I feel like it's definitely like needed for the upper to support the new artist that's coming in. But I feel like a lot of people that's here together and here together, they don't want to collab. That's what I'm talking about. Like it's good for us to connect with everybody. I feel like it just couldn't be so much more but like think about it. Guys doing shows with guys all the time. Why is it if three, we could say three girls did a good song. That's good enough to say three girls gives a good song together. I think it's baby steps. I feel like it's the same thing as like a president being in office and doing a shitty job and then having another president come in and be like, well, you could have did so much more but they not really working with. They only working with, but so much. I feel like right now it's a time where like we can't expect too much cause it has to happen like gradually. We don't want to be gradual. I think we're gonna get to a new day and age. All we got to do is do it. We don't got to usher nothing in. It's already being done and ladies is killing it because we already got to do so much more than men got to do. They just throwing a fitted and some and some Tim's in there done. Like you got to come correct when by the time you already get in there. So it's like, that's why I say baddies getting along cause the girls that's working hard and people that respect, they respect each other. We respect each other. It's always the people who don't have as much that's criticizing the others about what they're doing and so just focusing on it. So I feel like everybody that's already in there moving should just be collabing their sounds. But instead it's like, yo, we don't want to be compared to this person. Sometimes we don't want to share their fan base. Sometimes it's a lot of other politics that's involved. And I feel like just as women, if we know that we went in, we should just be connected more, you feel me? Like it's a win-win situation. What are we losing? I can agree with that. But a collab that you did that I feel like did well was your collab with K Goddess for Big Dog. That was lit. Big Dog. How was working with her? Like she's a Brooklyn artist. She's another one with a gritty sound. How did that collab- Why are you smiling like that? How am I smiling? I'm like, she got a gritty sound. Don't like, if y'all could see me, I think that I'm fine. I don't know how I'm smiling. I don't know. But how did that collab come about? And like, how was it received? How was that collab received? Nah, I feel like it was received well by just the vibes of New York and me being a newer artist coming in and K Goddess already having her movement and drew. And we connected because we were on tour together. So it was like, before we did that record, I was already in Atlanta. We were doing a lot of the same shows and stuff like that. So it makes sense from a standpoint part of, like I said, we all move and we all winning together. It's a win-win situation. Okay. That's dope. I think that y'all sound together.   Everything big. Like, everything big. That was a song for the ladies. You get me? Like, that wasn't gear. We wasn't just talking about what guys are doing. That was just for the ladies' big energy. Like, that was the whole vibe of that. So, all right. Now I'm very curious. If you had to put together like a dream team of five artists that you would want to put on a project, what five artists would you pick? On a project or like on record? No, on a project. They don't have to be on the same record, but like just five features that you would, like you think would be like the dream team. It could be anybody. Uh-oh. Well, I would want to do a record with J. Cole on my album, right? I feel like an album intro or close off with Cole would be fire. Okay. And then I feel like I definitely got to have something. I got to have something with, I feel like I would want it to be so different. Like, I would want to have like, it wouldn't even be a dream team because it would be so many different vibes, but like, I would want to do something with Burning Boy or like WizKid. You know what I'm saying? Okay, touching is the African rules. Yeah, exactly. Okay, of course.  Then I feel like I got to go and get like the city girls got to get JT and Miami on the record in time for the girls. Okay, so you making it around? Yeah, I want to connect and get every, like from all the different energies because I feel like as a collector, we listen to music from people that's all over and they're bringing their influence and their vibes. You know what I'm saying? So if you could not, if you joining two things together from here and here and it's lit, it's going to be lit. You know what I'm saying? I want to embrace everything that's winning and that also other people don't know. So if I'm in New York and they not listen, it's the bounce music and I put some fire bars on and we got a bounce hook, it's lit. Drake was sampling mad bounce music in his power dance. You know what I'm saying? And on the low, like. And at first it wasn't even, no, it was on the high. People was like, what the heck? On the city girl's track. Nice for, nice for what? Nice for what? Did he have something on there too? Oh no, that was just the city girl. Yeah. You talking about when he was like two bashes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, two bad bitches. But okay, now great answer, but you still owe me one more artist. One more artist. Oh, I gotta have Drake, right? We can't live in my, I would put where to go. Okay. Drake never did nobody wrong. I don't care what people say. He never did a feature wrong. What Drake feature you know that he did wrong? What people say he and that Drake did? They be blaming him cause he likes him. I just feel like people be having something to say. So how would you say in terms of, we talked about the way that people receive you from like a fan perspective, from a consumer perspective. How are you received by other artists? I don't know. Okay. Very good. We gotta ask them. I mean, I feel like have people been welcoming to you? Do you feel like, cause you talked about the politics, but you said that you get along with everybody. Do you feel like it's more of like, it doesn't really affect you? Like how have your interactions been within industry? It'd be good. When I go outside, we show each other love sometimes, but I'd be seeing motherfuckers side eyeing me. Mm. I mean, I can't be hating.  Yeah. So it's like, I don't really know. All the real love be fake, fake love be real. Who knows these days? So it's like, I don't really think, I feel like I make a lot of connection because I'm genuine. I got good energy. So it's like, you can't really be openly mean.  You get what I'm saying? Like it's like, you're bugging. Right. But on the real, I feel like, definitely everything come back.  Some people got stuff to say. Some people, it's a lot of things that's always, people are gonna always say something. You know what I'm saying? But in overall, I feel like, as long as I'm showing love, they're gonna give me good love back. So I don't feel affected by it because I'm not engaging in it. Like that's never been my M.O. to just go on live and talk about people.  Yeah. I was gonna say, when you said that like, that's dope. Cause I never heard of like you publicly being in anything. So I like that you keep it on the back. Not too much going on, going on. Why am I about to give you more shine to the situation? Now I'm not trying to get caught off of your situation either, you know what I'm saying? Cause I've had a lot of situations with people that's bigger than me that I could have made it into something to get caught off of. But you know, I feel like it's the bigger thing when y'all both know y'all got something and then like you still in the same spot with them and they can't do nothing about it. Cause nobody knows. And now they would just be looking like a hitter. Yeah. So what about when it comes to like the men in industry? I feel like women often talk about like, there's a fine line between men who reach out to them for like real business inquiries. Like they really want to work. And then the men that try to like utilize like sexual favors the like, even if it's not actually happening, they try or even like with the flirting just being very inappropriate to women. There's a very fine line between that for a lot of women in the industry. Unfortunately. Yeah, it's definitely like you definitely sexualized as like a female in the industry. You know what I mean? You got to definitely weed out what's real and what's not. But I also feel like that's anywhere. When you go to the deli, it's niggas in your head. So it was like, it really, it's a 50-50.  They're like that, but it's also people that like they going to put the work first if you actually working. Like there's some people that we think is really working and they not really doing as much work as they can or as they should be doing and they outside doing other shit. So of course that's what's going to be expected. You feel me or like.  And I think it definitely does happen every day, but like there's a difference between like I go to the store, order a sandwich. Akashana talk to me, he's flirting like in order for me to get my sandwich. I could leave and go to another one. But a lot of like upcoming artists. You don't get this count. A lot of upcoming artists, they may feel like, you know, this is my shot. This is like my one chance. And they may feel like that's something that they have to do. Now, from somebody that you just said, you've had experience with that. You didn't engage in that. What are some like words of advice that you can give?  They will make it seem like they're going to give you that shot if and but you get what I'm saying. So like that's the tricky part.  And you got to see if it's worth it. Cause sometimes like I'll be out with rappers all the time and like girls, you think you buy the smash.  Like she does that now. So you might as well just have like, you know, passed on that. See your opportunity. Yeah, exactly. Like put a job resume real quick, put an application in. No, I definitely feel that. I mean, especially if you're going to do it regardless, get something out of it. But I think that more importantly, the bigger message in what you're saying is, it's not necessary. You can continue on with your career without engaging in that. And really it comes down to your discernment. Making sure that you know where you're going. It's a harder way though. It's harder because I feel like I definitely like, I just know, I know so a lot of people, I'm not like a clout chaser and I don't want to, I don't want to put that on the forefront. So sometimes you got to work a little bit harder if you don't want to take that away. If you don't want to be in the studio trying to do a song and like he's trying to feel you'll die, then you're going to have to just go and do it yourself without that, you know what I'm saying? But that's just up to you and your personal chance. I feel like I've been on mad years ago if I would have few of them DMs out of went over on them late nights. But you know. But that's so sad because I feel like talent is talent.  Like it should be because you're genuinely talented. But that's the issue. It's not even about talent. It really just be like who you know and what they did to know.  People keep having to do them favors. I hate that for them. Cause it'd be like that. Like there's a lot of people that's really in position cause of relationships that they have behind closed doors and arrangements. Like it's who you know is your resources. You know what I'm saying? Your network is your like your resources and stuff. So it's a 50-50. Fortunately, I'm able to be around a lot of people that just know my bop. Like they know like I like to talk to the boys like boys because I'm already a pretty girl. I don't want to be like trying to flirt and like I want to get stuff done. So I'm fortunate to be around a lot of guys all the time that just know they understand that and it makes it easier. But I've also been in rooms where it's like, man, if she's not on this time and she got to go and I'm just, I eat that. And I feel like what I hate, and I asked you this question specifically because I feel like you are very comfortable with yourself. You'll post something like showing a little skin, showing a little cleavage, which is fine, which is what you should do. But I know that people take image and then try to create a narrative out of it. So I'm glad that you stay 10 toes down. You doing what you need to do. I don't even post that much skin to be honest. You don't really see me twerking. I didn't say twerking. I feel like it's all above. You'll be posting. Bikini picture. That's what I'm saying. That's regular.  So I know that it's something that's happening behind closed doors. I'm just happy to hear that it's not something that you succumb to. That's what I'm saying. No, I feel like we got to, as ladies, we just got to stand on what we believe and also just let people do what they like to do. Like don't judge people for what they do. Whatever works for you, work for you. And that's what type of person I am. I have friends that do everything. I got people that got all types of plug that do whatever to get whatever they got to do. I do whatever to get what I got to do. But my route may not be the same as your route. You know what I'm saying? And it's all about understanding like what you capable of, what you willing to deal with and what you want. Like once you know those three things. Once again, do what you want to do. No shame. I do not shame anybody. But forgetting what they got to get. But it's just the fact that that has to even be an option. Just grinds my gears real bad. So from the opposite standpoint though, for people who are interested in you for more of like a romantic standpoint, how do people shoot their shots? Cause you already got attention. I'm sure you got a lot of niggas in your DMs. Like what stands out to you for a nigga that actually wants to talk to you? That's a good question. You know, I'm a hard one. Nah, it just be about like I understand. Right now at my bigger age that I'm getting at, I'm more mature, right? Cause I've been in the industry for a while. So it's tricky. Like when my answer a few years ago would have been really different. But now as a person that understand like, you do got to also be able to like, make sure you're a significant other is happy. And we in the, I work in a job where it's like, it's a lot going on. So right now I just like an understanding guy. Like really he got to just be patient and understanding first and we good. So how, but how can you tell? Okay.   That's what I'm saying. So I could tell. Now I start throwing guys, I just bring them out one time, put them right in the room and just see how they maneuver. Cause if we go home and he complained about anything that happened to anybody that said a hug, a touch or any look around. If you complain about anything he's clipped. So it was like, that's, that's a test right there to see if he's with it or not. Cause y'all have been in times was like, I didn't dated guys for a mad while. And then the moment that they come out, they're like, Oh, so this is what goes around. So you just sitting in the room with 30 guys all the time and you don't talk to no guys. Nobody got time for that. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, I'm a person. You got to see me in person and I got to see how you move in person. Like I just see how you move with me and with me also being me too. Cause I have a strong personality and some guys they want to be the center of attention. Some guys also want to act like they the man and they can do all of this. So it's like, you got to catch the one, catch me and see, let me see how you really is. Okay, so now if you had to build your perfect man, what would that look like? Now you could either say one person or you could say like the body of, let's say like a Michael B. Jordan face of a insert person here. You could like pick and choose too. What is your like ideal man look like? Or your ideal type? You know, I ain't really got no type of how he look like that. That's crazy. You just got to be handsome. Like I like light skin, dark skin, medium tall, kind of tall, not too short. But if he slim build, I just don't like husky niggas. That's fine, he cannot be that. But as long as he's like, you know, handsome, like cute in his own way, he can have freckles and be ginger with a curly blue fro. But if he fine, he fine. I definitely get tight. I feel the same way though. Like every God dated or look different. Like exactly. So that's why I was like, you could even build your, and I'm trying to think about like, I'm like, yeah, I don't really have a type to really give you an example, but hopefully you get where I'm coming from. Okay, so if you find, you find, and then the personality. He got to have money. He got to have that bag. You got to be smart. You got to have money. You feel me? I like an ambitious guy that know what he want to do with himself in the future. Like he got plans. Like, you got plans, what are we going to do? We going to build our house weird. And what about our honeymoon? So we going to take the PJ there. Oh, the PJ, okay. So I was about to say, do you feel like, so having money, do you mean more money than you or just having money period? Yeah, he got to have more money to be, because maybe if he don't got like, he don't got to be filthy rich. You just got to have more than me to do what he needs to do, like take care of himself well and afford to be able to move, right? Like, cause this is growing. That's why I said, I like an ambitious man. Cause he might just be well off right now, but he's smart that in the next five years you're going to be up ends. You know what I'm saying? You got to get in there early. And the reason why I was asking was because a lot of, a lot of people say like they want somebody who makes more money than them so that they could get like, so they could be taken care of and stuff like that. But we just heard about Gabrielle Union saying her and D-Wade go for it. But they both rich though. They are both rich. They are both rich, yes. But it's still, that's what I'm saying more money than you, you have whatever you have right now but that doesn't mean that that's always what you're going to have. You're going to be rich one day too. No, that's a fact. I spend a lot of money, but I'm also financially smart.  So it's like, I want to mean that he is maneuvering right.  And I really just look at you like you dumb because you could be starting businesses, you could be really flipping that into more and you dispersing on something like that. So it's definitely more about the bigger picture but also I don't want to be with nobody where they complaining about not being able to do stuff and not, you know what I'm saying? You want to be with somebody that's comfortable, like comfortable in their mind. So you rich, you marry a man that's rich. Y'all going 50-50 on the bills? No, he going to pay all the bills. He rich. Why do I need to pay the bills? Like can I just buy nice shit? I needed to hear what you was saying because I said Gabrielle Union's win-win, your first response was they rich. So when you rich. No, because you know what I thought about is like Nikki has said something when she was like, oh, they always ask me like why would you date a regular guy if he or Richard didn't and she was like, well, I'm Richard than the rappers too. So what's the difference? No, that I definitely feel, and they have history. I feel like she didn't just meet him. If you richer than a person, you richer than them. It don't even matter about the money, about what it is. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's about the love who says it has to be this thing. It's about the relationship and what y'all can do, but it's a partnership. So you don't want to be with no partner where you doing, you pulling all the weight. You know what I'm saying? Listen, I've definitely dated a couple of broke niggas. You was pulling all the way, girl. Not with the couple. Y'all was going out to eat. You had the front of the tab at dinner before. We definitely went 50-50 a couple times. Because you wanted to go out. If you broke, I don't even want to go. I'm taking myself out. Yeah, I felt like it was like, you know, I know. Next time.  Just go out to eat with your own homegirls. There's no need for them to come. No, now I'm going out to eat by myself. I love a good solo day. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So let's also just talk about anything else you have going on, because I know music is not the only thing. We talked about your modeling. I also saw actress in your credits as well. So let me find out. You bought the being on TV screens. You already have. Yeah, I definitely have. I mean, I've been in the industry for a while. So I did a lot of extra work in movies from like how to be single and stuff from loving hip hop and a lot of stuff over the years. I just did a J. Cole video that's going to be driving. I don't know if I was going to say that. It's going to be driving soon. You know what I'm saying? Cole's coming out. So I did have a nice role in the video. So I'm excited for that to come. OK, it gives me care. And yeah, and then we got some. I'm working on I want to do like more movies so long. You're going to see me and more stuff on that end. Like OK on the music. What kind of movies? I'm excited. Like some black movies. OK. All right.  So it's like I like to support the up and coming. What's your favorite movies? What's your favorite movie? Not the movie movies. No, they funny. I mean, yeah, it's not the movie movies. What's your favorite movie? Bro, do not embarrass me on this show right now. There's something so corny. Why? What's your favorite movie? I don't even want to say. All right. Tell me like this. Corny. OK. It is. Ain't it? What you think about it? One thing I will say, and if you know, you know. And I might have, I might even have the wrong movies. So that would make it even worse. But when she got up on the stage at that audition. Do I have the right movie? You got the right movie. OK. Young me watching that really thought she was fucking. Yo, I just seen the mean now. And they said, how she got in with the. She was like, one, two, three, three, three. No, it did not give. As an adult watching it back, I was like, I'm going to have it. That's not corny. I don't know why I like it so much. That's a nice one. If you know, you know. All right, we going to sell it? All right. Yeah, it's your movie to show. Just don't roast me, bro. It saved the last dance. Saved the last dance. Yeah, when she was up there auditioning, the audition did not give. To be a favorite movie, though, like to be a favorite, that's kind of crazy. Honestly, at least you have one. I'm very indecisive. My favorite movies be alternated between Wolf on Wall Street and Columbiana. Oh, yeah. And I like glitter, too. You seen that movie with Mariah Carey? Yes. Those are like those are nostalgic childhood movies. That's why they my favorite, because when I watched them, I feel young again. I'm like, yeah, the stripper movie. No, you're not hustler. No, that's not that. You talk about J.Lo. No, Mariah Carey. Are you ever seen glitter? Sorry, Mariah, girls, I'm sorry. If you don't see glitter, you got to see it. No, I haven't seen it. I know of it. I haven't seen it. It's OG movie. So I know we have to wrap up. So let's talk about before we finish, Volger. Volger Inc. Yes. Your brand. Yeah. Talk to us a little bit about that. OK, so yeah, I started Volger right before I started doing music. And it just transitioned into me doing a lot of celebrity styling. So I've had an opportunity to style a few different people.  All of the looks were from my brand. And a few other people for different magazine covers and stuff. And honestly, that is my first viral, viral, viral video by myself. Like, my commercial to Volger did 3.5 million views. Serious? Yeah, and that was creatively, that was my commercial. That's the first thing that I did to launch it. So for it to come full circle and like support my music now because that's what happened is just like, you know. You have a lot of things that work very well together. And like, even when it comes down to the music, the acting, the modeling, your clothing, like everything is entertaining and is image based. So that's really, really dope. Thank you. What else can we look forward to? What you working on? What you got coming out? Like, what's really to see with that? I'm going to put out some music. I'm going to have some singles coming really, really soon. Before summer? Yeah, definitely before summer. OK, all right, before summer. I mean, I've been teasing so much music.  And then No Stressing, which is the one that you were talking about that just dropped. So we have Stop Playing, No Stressing, and Never Stop, which is one that I did like the Blockwork TV and everything. Where I'm just talking with the Detroit beats and, you know, involving more of that and my, this little home connection. So, you know, that's coming. And like I said, I'm just excited to get back into the fashion. And I'm going to be surprised as the people, I want to keep them on their toes. Oh, all right. But we will definitely be looking for it. Is there anything else that you want to talk about, touch on before you wrap up? No. Well, thank you so much for stopping by. It was so good talking to you. But if people that don't know, shout out all your socials so that they know where to find you. What's up? It's your girl, Stuna Dior. You already know the vibes. You can follow me on Instagram at the real Stuna Dior. My music is out on all platforms, Stuna Dior. And if you don't know who I am, get into it. Do your Google's, do your research, write, hit, and then plain sight. And it's about to pop off and it's about to go up. Up and stop. Up like the roller coaster. That's what you were saying before. It's great. Thank y'all for tuning in. We'll see y'all next video.


Do we do we Heck yeah, we do yes go now I Heard that there was turtles on the bay. Hmm. I'd like to give that a shot Let's see if we're gonna hunt down some turtles not that I know which way the turtles are mind you. Oh Wait what we have like an intro Pretty Wait, is this actually an intro like Well, hello the game crash Okay, well that was fun, I guess we close that yeah Oh, we're on the beach Well, that's really handy for me. Yeah, this is right at the end. This is really good I'm assuming there's not gonna be any like crocodiles It's gonna say like can I can I we're kind of like can I see there? There it is. Look oh Well, we need to wait for it to the tide to get back up again Come on tide. You've got this. Yes Look at that. Look at all that. Hmm. I was told there would be turtles It'd like to eat a turtle Actually, hold on. This is probably a bad idea. I should probably go this way at least this way I'm going down towards something I suppose. Oh Wait, what's that? Hold on. There's something in the water. Hello, I can car.  No, I think so that means he's gonna want to kill me. Do you think you think you're trying to kill me? We'll even be able to catch me You if you catch me I swear to God better not oh Well, I can only do that Oh God is your better swimmer than me I don't know. I think we both swim at the same pace. I think I got more stamina than him That's too good. Wolfer. Naval Wolfer. Who can outstamp the other one?  Yes I am bleeding But at least I got some bites off. Whoo. I got loads of bites. Oh, I you know, I showed it I should jump to them. Ah, you could be my sparring partner my first like I don't know what he's doing. Is he trying to he's trying trying to get up I think he might starve before me, you know, oh Oh, bless. I wonder if the other one would have killed him. Oh, well, that's fine That's fine. I should not do first about that.  I think I can see a crock in there already I want to cross there's least chance of there being a crock I don't know where that is Oh, hello Hello, oh We be friends Okay, Jacob make a pact. Whoever dies first, the other one can eat the other. Okay. Good Good, wait, is it really you? Maybe I'm not gonna tell we need to cross Jacob Short cross is here. Let's go, Jacob Go, Jacob go Oh god, Jacob. Let's go Jacob corn. Let's try to split up a little bit So at least if one of us dies the other one also doesn't get eaten We did it Jacob. I'm just gonna follow him. Jacob knows what he's doing.    Whoa. He killed like two. Nice Did that happen? Did you just find them now? Ha ha take that carnos. Are you not gonna run? Uh, yeah Literally froze I ran and I didn't I was like, uh, uh, is he gonna see him? I forgot to warn him Oh bless. Well, thank you. You gave us lots of food.  Let's get the carno There he is Damn, I try to I try to jump on I like I click right click Uh Got him. Oh That was close. That was close. I want to pounce him. I don't know if I can Get him Jacob get him guys. Oh, yeah, he's pounced. He pounced nice Is it oh, are we are we still chasing him? What's going on? I can't see I just see names There he is hips are locked on and there's the big crock coming Oh, that was the carno. I thought that was friend I think you meant to go for me there 100 carno You mean a hundred carno Where oh Oh, you mean like a fully grown carno Oh, I guess I sit down Don't sniff me the crocodiles right next to me somewhere Hiding bush hiding bush Wait, that's not a carno. Is it above me? No, okay Oh Crocodiles off in the distance. Oh, there he is There's the croc. He's hiding in the tree with a bush What oh What are you doing this for? Why betrayal? Why'd you do that? Why like why? Why did you do that? You we were like a friend to us and now you're working with what the car knows.  He's like, you know what?  Oh, what's going on? What's going on? Are they are they attacking the croc? Oh, they killed the carno.  Yeah look blood Aw Glitched for me At least it's still like the safety numbers. I literally can't eat it Yes. Oh, there we go. Whoo. At least I could drink though. That's good.   There you go.  It's flying apparently Well, there's nowhere it can really go so Are we going? Yeah Nice Oh, thank you easy God you made it look easy. Oh, it was a carno. You can add it to the pile of things that I can't eat.  Yes, he died. Yes I can eat him. Oh, thank you sustenance you beauty. Yes Hey, don't pick it up. Why are you picking up for it? I can actually eat it Oi You'll put it somewhere where I can't eat it. I bet There we go That'll do.   Oh, oh, yes glorious Bitchy would your elf eyes see I could see my face from here. Oh, well, that's a weird voice Something making splushy noises over here. So I kind of want to go this way first and just see what's going on over here Bloody footprints Oh, that's like a hoof That's like a tonnado. I think they're after the tonnado. Oh, yeah.   I can't tell with the frames Ow Something freaking bit me You buggy it to the rock to the safety of the rock I think with a little raptors bitters It must have to cause bleed unless the bleed like to come to not a cause bleed.   Let's let's have a look if I stand up if it's still Nope Like good But where where are you? Oh, oh, you're over here. Yes. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Are you we're protecting me No for oh I want to see all this hobbub is I'm I'm old enough now 50% crone. Let's go have a look There it is. Yeah, this is where it was up before. Oh, I'm starting to know things now This is brilliant I love getting 14 frames a second. Oh, there's the tenottos.   Oh sweet to take on the dinos.    Oh, okay. I never mind. It is a bit of a big jump Okay Oh, there we go. Good. Good. Good. Okay. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. I'm thirsty thirsty dying even Hold on. Let me just snip. Oh, there's blood here I need to drink the chances of a big croc I could probably take a crocodile off on if it was in here definitely It's not gonna be it's not gonna be that bad. Let's have a sniff anything nearby any foods No foods at this point if I see a little baby raptor, I will eat it All right, how big am I? I'm still getting the increases. I'm 83 percent.  Oh, it's a big drop. It's a big drop But there is There is a bit of meat down there though. I might be tempted to have a look at it Oh god, and I'm in the water Damn it. Oh god, please don't let there be anything in here. Oh land. Thank you Oh Where's the meat? I bet you it's that bloody.  I wonder if you can fish as a raptor All right. Well, I'm on the other side of a freaking river now. So oh dear This is not what I wanted to happen really No miles away from them. Oh my god. This is huge The drops there. I'm surprised I didn't die there to be fair.  Sorry a giant dino, right? Or maybe not Should I should I attempt it? I mean I kind of have to yeah, I'm gonna have to okay guys. Here we go. You ready? Oh, okay, never mind Oh, is that food Yes, heck yeah I'm just gonna eat as much as I can out of this man. Just gonna eat as much as I can almost fully grown. This is sweet Oh Jesus Oh lord. Oh lord Measy, bleedy bad bad Very very bad bad Whoa I got a lot of food from that though So that's not so bad sick of playing the aisle and then getting so far and then just like dying and without putting up any fight It's not gonna happen this time. I tried pouncing on that corner before But uh, I was kind of Oh, there's a there's a tonado right here Oh, wow. He's bleeding out as well He had no idea I was right here Like no idea at all Well, we did it. We're basically a hundred percent With a weight of 442 kilograms Oh, I'm a big baby They have completely gone Where are these raptors? More by myself now. Oh wait, there's one mine Well, some are alive. They're all dead They're all dead. No, they can't be Don't believe it. I don't believe that they're all dead No Sonata's just like running around trying to hunt down everything Whatever I play as it's always hunt that thing and kill it. Oh, people wants to have fun kill him get him killed You know what is we went out here and nothing happened but death so I I'm gonna make the wise decision to just you know go back to the river where we all started and had fun It was good times except for this time.  Is this like a little baby raptor or something? Oh my god, how many of there are so many little babies?  It's just they died. They come straight back like hello Like a rat lagged into stuff. Yeah, blame lag Now do we think there is a crocodile hiding in here There it is. Hey, buddy.  Can I not get it? All right, I'm gonna have to wait for it to float to the surface. I just like I'm trying to get to him, but I can't He fell too deep Damn it I can't get him Yeah, he fell too deep unfortunately Well, I'll have that. Thank you very much Yes, there you go eat my pitties eat yum yum Where are these footsteps going and what is it? Although I want to be careful of just like being near these bushes just in case there is one Because if I was a dino I would hide in a bush out of the water Oh nice How do you what what is happening with these crops?  I'm I'm living off the script I'm sorry. That's all the play though. I live not the scouts, but we all live in our way And soon we will be the new apexes the car. No seem to have died And the dino's will soon starve without turning on to their what you call it their frigging There's they go herby overlords Hello Carlos. How you doing? I'm gonna get you.  You bugger you can I? Oh no, I can't but I can eat your flesh though. Yes I did it.  Hello. Oh my god. I've glitched. No I'm clicking everything nothing's working.    I'm out in the open. I'm gonna lock it. I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead I'm out in the open. There's a stego right there. I was running towards the stego as I I couldn't it couldn't happen to the worst time Freak this game man. Oh my god. I finally get to there and look. Oh, yeah, you're gonna you can just gonna take ages Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, take your time. I'll take a time. It's not like I just wasted like three two and a half hours Just you know getting my car. No, I'm sorry. My dear my freaking rafter up to the place I needed to be no no take time. It's fine. Just wait for me to die first wait for me to die before I log it Thank you. Yes. Yes. There we go. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, I understand. Uh-huh. Yeah, I understand nothing understand Why's too? Oh, did it kick everybody? Said everybody was on zero. Oh This daylight. Oh, hello There's a stego over there. Oh it reset wait a minute This is weird Yeah, the server just reset. What wait what time is it? That's a weird time for the server to reset Okay, we're alive. Look at the praise we get Sweet Oh, now we can see stuff now. This is brilliant. Whoo goat frigging goat. Oh my god. I've never seen one And I'm gonna kill it.   Hold on. That might be good protein for me. I might need that one. Go papas. Go All right, let's go have fun now that there's like less people on Oh clocking in a moment at a time like oh if we saw dino and it was uh logging in we could like bite a couple times Uh, oh god Stop it. That's terrifying Well, there's the tenottos. Tenottos are back. That's good. Yep. Look at them. Yep. It's going straight back to the water Well, they should be careful because now the crocs are turning on them Okay, what was this? Are they are they killing boars? Is that what they're doing? They might be killing boars They're just going around.  Oh, it's a patchy Well, I didn't kill him. I don't know how he died But they're actually quite big. Oh dear. I bet they would be a threat to me Well, I've learned patches. Uh, they can go quite big Look at that for a shot.  Hello Oh, you look like a fully grown one as well Oh, yeah, sure Oh, it's these guys again Yes, except for I am an adult now Oh, no I've got myself in a sticky situation here and there's no way but down Please don't please don't tell me this is this can't be it Yeah, there we go. Whoo. Oh, they're all following me. Oh look at me. I'm such a trendsetter Yeah, let's see if there's anything out of ways. Let's have a look. I haven't heard anything for a while Maybe the stegos are moved on Yeah, I see the bigger crocs incoming Nice call. There's like one two three four five five of them Oh, what are we actually oh here we go Are we actually going for it? I don't know that was a car. No, though It's probably just gonna run towards the stegos though. Let's be honest I mean just think about it, right?  You've got nothing going on.   No He stunned us Oh Oh, that's kind of terrifying now we need a heal. What's my health on did it almost die? Oh, yes Oh, yes, definitely almost died. Oh well then Hold on. What's that? Oh, bless.  Oh, why did you do it? Why did you do it?  Oh, there's a kick Oh, oh wow. It was why it was one bite and dead I don't even know what this kind of protein gives me but I'll take it Yes A new pack.  Go help. I could barely call Go on a little bit of stamina a little bit of stamina is all I needed Yeah, there we go. There we go Oh god. Oh god Oh, there we are. There it is. There it is. There it is. I kind of went oh the baby's like no Papa Oh, yeah, this is not a fully grown car. Now if it was It would uh, it would be taken Taken out pretty easy. I mean it would take us out. I think it would be a good fight Oh bless. Oh Why is no one going for the baby car though? It's like now we need to take care of the biggest threat first Oh, well, okay. Oh, there it is. There it is Yeah, I think I can just pretty much just yeah, I jump on here. Yeah, there we go. There we go There son there Ow, ow, stop it Did lots of damage to him so much so he's buggered up and left his baby.  What was the baby doing like? No, please And then once it left him we don't always win that group I know we just chased after the adult that can kill us No, no, and soon as I say kill the baby. Yep. They got the baby Yes Here we go Right, so for this time. I'm not just going to run over the cliff and kill myself I went straight across like the river bending didn't I and it was a clip on the other side. I don't believe this Niza could have died. I was an adult. I wanted to kill the car knows and I literally How far was that fall? How far was that fall?  Oh, there he is.  He's buying. Yeah Did he buy? Oh, he bit me I missed him Oh, is he dead? All right. I bet that's what you wanted to end it on guys. Yes We gotta kill Well, if you enjoyed this video guys, leave a like until next time. I'll see you could you later. Bye. Bye


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OK, I would say let's proceed with Col, Tribeco-Loch to me, and tube shunt care at the VA. All needs improvement. I took that, I took that to heart, Dr. Petty. Talk briefly about traps and tubes at the VA. Before I do so, I just wanted to put a quick plug in for the QI project that I talked about last year, which was prevention of exposure in the ICU. So there's an order set now for any ventilated patient in the ICU. When they get ventilated, they automatically get an order for lubricating ointment four times a day. And we did a study that looked at, you know, rates of exposure or caretapathy and ointment use before and after the intervention. Here's one of our authors, Candid Photo. In brief, what we found, why that one got shifted. Patients now receive more ointment in the ICU when they're ventilated and there are lower rates of exposure. I just wanted to mention this because this was done back in 2020. And we haven't done an update on the study, so it'd be really good to see longevity data of the intervention. So if any junior residents are interested, this would be a well teed up QI project for next year. So talking about traps and tubes, specifically at the VA, incisional glaucoma surgery is not a benign surgery. These are procedures that can lead to permanent vision loss and myriad of other complications if you don't handle them with pretty diligent pre and post-operative care. So this is from the TBT study. And it just showed that you can see at the bottom, early complication rates were as high as 39% in the trap group and then post-operative complications for both were up over 30%. And thinking about doing these procedures at the VA, there's just all sorts of roadblocks that we run into that can prevent a good outcome. I think most glaring is the lack of a consistent provider. Every day in glaucoma clinic, we have a different attending often a different fellow and then they're often going to be seeing a different resident who's of a different training level. And when these patients have really complex disease, it's almost impossible to like meet them for the first time and really synthesize the information to make a good clinical decision. So in the post-operative period for traps and tubes, you know, you have to be seen weekly for the first six weeks or longer. And when our wait times are so long at the VA becomes really burdensome for patients. And kind of tied into that is compliance. So when we don't have time to talk to these folks about the importance of drops and return precautions. It can become, you know, difficult for them to understand what's going on. And finally, we don't have access to compounded drops at the VA. Many of our glaucoma surgeons here prefer conservative free tax after surgery, just because with the frequency of use you see less surface disease and we don't have that at the VA. And so back in the fall, Dr. Stag, Dr. Simpson, a few residents and I kind of put our heads together and said, What can we do to make this better and get better outcomes for traps and tubes? I mean, we schedule all post-ops at the VA with the same attending. And you realize very quickly that that's almost impossible to coordinate based on schedules. Do we just route all of these to the Moran and bypass the VA in general? And I think that's an option, but it kind of removes all of the education for our VA residents. And so what we settled on is maybe having a chief resident who's involved in the surgery and have assumed care for that patient, particularly in the early post-op period, and see them over at the Moran in their own continuity clinic. And it kind of checks off a lot of these boxes. So you're going to have that consistency. You're not going to have as long with clinic wait time. You can get preserved free decks if you want. And then you'll have more time to chat with them. So I have an end of one for this. We had a veteran at the VA who had a very severe glaucoma, a central island in the right eye. You can see he had really asymmetric disease, but he still had preserved central acuity. And he had a really tough time understanding to use his drops, wasn't using them, didn't tolerate them, his surface was poor. And so he was reluctantly signed up for a trabeculectomy, which Dr. Stag and I did at the VA at the end of November. And I saw him post-op day one at Moran and then weekly thereafter. And you can see in the early period, his pressure was not controlled, but after one sutralysis and then subcons 5FU, his IOP has been consistently about five or six. And he doesn't really understand that, but I've been thrilled that his pressure has been there. He's mostly, mostly felt the sutures for a long time. So he finally has felt better. So I think he's getting a little bit happier. And so what the advantages this were, I got to know this veteran on a, you know, first name basis we met weekly. He really trusted me. I think he called me on my cell a lot. He called me one day to tell me he had COVID and like wasn't anything to do with his eyes. He's just like, I have COVID what I need to do about it. Well, just go to your other doctor. But he had like zero wait time here at the Moran, which I thought he really appreciated. He was not very happy when he had to reenter the VA clinic pool. For me, it was really invaluable kind of post-op education for these patients that I hadn't really received yet in residency. I got to participate in the trap. I got to make all these post-op decisions, you know, on my own. Dr. Stagg was certainly very supportive and there for all of them. And then I got to do the laser sutralysis and the 5FU injection. So overall a good educational experience. It was a lot of extra logistical work for me trying to work out time in my clinic over here, often time on different days over lunches, whatever, but it did work out. And then we do split documentation across two EMRs for this. One issue we ran into is that I tried to bill all of his Moran visits as a post-op visit so he wouldn't get charged without a VA community care consult. Unfortunately, because there was no op note at the Moran, then it got billed and it became this big hassle. So that got worked out in the future. I would definitely have the community care consult pre-approved at the VA before doing the surgery. I think there's much room for improvement for these surgeries. Some ideas that were thrown around back in the fall would be, can we dedicate a half day at the VA for just traps and tubes that the PGY4 on glaucoma attends and then maybe build a little bit more flexibility into our glaucoma rotation so that that resident can see these early post-op visits or even reserve a few spots on glaucoma in the continuity clinic. But I'm open to any suggestions from RAS faculty, any other faculty to make this flow work better. It was pretty cool to see a good outcome and it's not as fun to see bad outcomes at the VA. Thank you. Why don't you walk over here? Is it a good time? Yeah. Okay, good. So the advantage of still seeing this patient at the VA, like our experience where you had a complicated case, did a trap and it was a post-op visit. Like I got to see that patient with you and do a sutralysis. And I think maybe if the chiefs are responsible for seeing these patients and some more experience but also still doing teaching the PGY2s and 3s, I thought that was pretty useful, at least for me. There's probably a world in Dr. Simpson's stretching like she has something to say where we could build these post-ops into some sort of VA clinic and then still have a junior resident. Yeah, there you go. I'm just saying that the schedule changed a little bit. So next year that the chief on glaucoma will be at the VA Monday morning every week one through five. So, so that that continuity will be there. And if you want to build in then a subsequent day, we have the schedule flexibility. Now, if you want to do a half day of glaucoma surgery, we can look at the calendar and figure that out so that we can pull the glaucoma chief to do that at the VA as well. Not a problem. Brandon cut a suture at the VA. He saw the pressure go from 25 to five and he's still doing retina. So, he's doing peas, I'm sorry. Thanks, Cole.