Just follow the road. You'll know where it goes. That's a hot mug guys. Hey guys, this is my review for episode 16 of Supernatural Season 5. This is Dark Side of the Moon. This is an episode I've been looking forward to because I remember having fond memories of this episode when it aired. I kind of had a good time watching it again when I did a rerun back on like 2013. So this was the first time I've seen this episode near on seven years and I still like the concept of it. But yes, there is this hollowness to the idea that you're just reliving these memories. It's a kind of an interesting concept. Just the idea of taking what we know something as heaven and then just turning it a little bit like not something major but still within the means of the production value that they can do it without having to be heavy effect or anything. Like that's what I love about this one. When they're listening to Knock Knock on Heaven's Door and they're doing the fireworks. I think that's one of the most heartfelt moments that Supernatural's had in a while. It's that moment that is the catalyst to how the episode ends because that's the last bit of brief happiness and hope that Dean has before it is absolutely shattered and not just by what Joshua says to them, but by also seeing that Sam's favorite memories are all about separation. Dean's feeling jealous. While his favorite memories are with Sam, Sam's favorite memories don't have anything to do with him. It's that selflessness in him that he wishes that something was different. It's kind of a contradiction considering what he was doing in the beginning of the show, right? That he was thinking that Sam and Dean should be separate, but then Sam is the one who wants to put them back together to work together so to work against Lucifer. So that element shows Dean just breaking his last hope, especially with how the episode ends. But going through the episode itself, I do like the oddity elements that they did. This is probably the closest to anything David Lynch that this show ever got and I will admit it is because the script is written by Andrew Dabin, David Loughlin. They do a very cool, very simplistic, but very intriguing means of having them work through heaven by following the road. At first it's driving, then it's walking, but then they're looking for a road inside a house and it's this old little track, this toy track that Dean would play with and he does it and all of a sudden they're in a different room. I liked that. The only maybe effect that I thought was a little bit handy is when they go outside through another door and they go out on the street where Sam left for Stanford and they do that quick around with the camera and they go like 180 around them. I kind of thought that was a little silly, but that's it. That's the cheesiest camera element that's done in this episode. I love when Castiel is talking to them through the TV. It gives me so many Alan Wake vibes. It's nuts. Dark Side of the Moon has a very intriguing concept throughout the entirety of the episode. Reliving these moments that these characters have had, we get to learn a little bit more about their pasts. It's when Zachariah finds them that things get a little bit hectic and get a little bit out of control where they're running away from him and these guys are pretty darn good jokes at this point. And then he's able to manipulate their mother, the memory version of their mother.  The lighting in this scene is pretty cool. We see a lot of green, kind of green with envy, green with malice reflected on Zachariah. Well, we already saw the beginning of the season that he's willing to do what it has to be done to do so, but then Joshua arrives and I really like this actor. As far as I know, I think he's retired. He hasn't done anything since 2015. He comes in and he takes the boys away and then they go to, I think it's the botanical gardens out in Vancouver. I've heard about these Van Dusen gardens. Maybe I might be wrong about it. I know that there is something like this out in Vancouver. There's one in Langley as well, but it's not this one because this one is dome shape.  This is probably the part that kind of disappoints me and I think it's meant to disappoint you, but more so I think it's the simplicity of what is said that disappoints me. Joshua has a message from God because he says God's living on earth. He doesn't care about anything going on and he tells them to back off. He's like, you know what? Stop trying to find him. He's not going to appear. You guys have to do what you have to do. It disappoints me, but it's also the point of the episode because that reflects onto being that the literal creator of all doesn't want to have to do anything. Their last effort, their last ditch effort wants nothing to do with them. It's crushing, not only for them, but also for Castiel when they go back. Oh wait, the part that I forgot. His ash appears. Ash helps them hide from Zachariah and I thought that was really cool.  I thought that was great. And then just talking about me and other people just hopping through dreams. I like that Ash had a good cameo in it. But then going back to the end of the episode after Castiel learns the truth, he looks up and says, you son of a bitch, I believe. And Castiel is broken. He flies off and then Dean takes the amulet, stands over that bucket and Sam is just heartbroken when he watches him drop it in because this is a family memento. Because not only does that mean that he's throwing away what was supposedly an item that could find God, but it's a personal connection between Sam and Dean. Dark Side of the Moon is a very personal episode. There's not really any action. I think actually, doesn't it?  Oh well, technically speaking, the brothers do, but they get, you know, a respawn. But I remember the episode starting off pretty crazy with that, with that opening, then just getting shot.  Clearly the promo before just them, how many times have you guys died? Anyway, it was kind of alluding to this. It was still a shock. So with a really good script, some pretty decent directing and a lot of personal moments. I can definitely say that Dark Side of the Moon is one of the more deeper meaning the philosophical episodes of the show. So in the end, I'm going to give it a six out of seven. It's a very intriguing concept. It's a very intriguing episode, very thought out. It's a really good script from Laughlin and Dab. I'm not going to deny that. They've had two real good bangers in this season. And the next one from them is Hammer of the Gods. So we all know that's a good episode too. So I'm very excited to look forward to that one. Anyways guys, I asked for your comments about this episode, so let's read those off now. The thought of constantly being stuck in past memories, never seeing anything new, always kind of terrified me. It's an issue I don't think they ever change. It's just the way it is. Not even the Winchesters can change something on that grand of a scale, considering I thought God was real when I first watched this episode. Gave me a bit of an existential crisis. Still does in a way. At first I thought it was actually kind of a cool idea, but then after a while I was like, yeah, you would constantly be stuck in your memories. Eventually you would outlive it. And it's something that the good place, if you've ever seen the show The Good Place, I would definitely suggest it. It actually kind of talks about what is an afterlife and a never ending afterlife and what to do after that. It's pretty good. I would definitely recommend it. This episode is one of the best of the season and it does something with the idea of the afterlife that later visits to heaven, purgatory, and hell struggle to recreate. It turns the focus of the visit not into what heaven is, but on who the characters are and what their idea of bliss means. The writers do such a good job of turning the focus onto the boys' lives, their relationships, their parents, and their fears and growing insecurity to keep you engaged without straining the budget. It's subverting our expectations, but it works. Here we see Zachariah starting to devolve into the madness over the past failures pursuing the boys. At this point, he has discarded all pretense and courtesy. He is no longer trying to convince the boys to change their minds. Kripke once said that Kurt Fuller is a very physically imposing person in means of height and posture, intimidating as a villain. You can really feel that in his last scene. His dialogue in the episode is very well written.  He is very much on the prowl in this episode. I always really liked Joshua and I was so disappointed when they brought him back on screen season 12 just to kill him within 10 seconds. I don't even remember that. I'm going to go back and re-watch that review I did. It wasn't necessary to bring Ash back, but it feels good to see his character get a happy ending after being abruptly written out in season 2. Same with Pamela in season 4. I really liked their cameos in this episode. I thought that it worked and it worked in the context. It wasn't just for bringing back sake, it actually helped with the plot. This is a pretty good episode that expands on the lore of supernatural. The lore is pretty simple. Sam and Dean are killed by hunters who are angry at Sam starting the apocalypse. In Heaven, Sam and Dean are told by Castiel to look for Joshua, an angel who talks to God. Meanwhile, the brothers are trying to run away from Zachariah, whose powers are much stronger on his own turf and who still hasn't gotten given up on forcing Dean to say yes to Michael. In Heaven, we see some familiar faces, Ash and Pamela, who helped Sam and Dean define Joshua. Unfortunately, the message from God is grim. God has no intention to help Sam and Dean in Castiel. Then Sam and Dean are brought back to Earth, but this time remembering that heaven because of God's will. The Heaven in Supernatural is presented as sort of a replay of one's greatest hits in a form of memories in happy places. As Ash explains it, really nice to see his character again here by the way. There isn't one heaven. There's like a billion heavens like Disneyland. It's an interesting yet depressing concept that we social beings at heart are meant to live on an eternity alone in our own little world when we die. The only nitpick I have with this episode is that I wish we could have seen Ellen and Joe meeting Sam and Dean in Heaven 2. That would have been a perfect final goodbye for those two characters as well. Overall, it gives us episode 6 out of 7. Yeah, I kind of find it odd that Ellen and Joe aren't in this episode too, but there is a lot that's happening. This is really the brothers' journey through Heaven trying to find Joshua, all the while trying to escape Zachariah. It is trying to put some fear and some tension and some danger into this episode, which is very thankful. I loved how bleak and hopeless Dark Side of the Moon ended.  God with some sort of faith and it turns into disappointment and losing faith on Cass and Dean's part. Even though the boys are going through the best memories, while it does show their happiest memories, it goes back to Sam having to face family. He's always ran away and wanted out, but it would end with him eventually facing his family. So by the time the episode ends, it's like why even try and fight back when they have nothing else to lose and God himself doesn't even think it's his problem. Yeah, actually, I like the bleakness of this episode. I very much enjoy that. What's the point at this point? As much as I like Dark Side of the Moon for some reason, seeing such a seeing Ash and having it knowing he's cool with it, I was troubled by others Sam getting pummeled in this episode. How dare he start the apocalypse? How dare he not appreciate that Dean gets the crust off his PB&J? How dare he disrespect Dean and have a heaven that contains some memories that don't worship Dean? Then Dean throws the amulet Sam gave him into the trash. As though the episode and Dean are saying to Sam should go to hell. Oh, that's right.  Your point here, Shannon, I think is going to correspond with Nico's. There is a bit of childish kind of activity from Dean in this episode. I think Dean has been so dead set on being Sam's protector that nothing in Sam's happiest memories include Dean. And I admit I could understand his jealousy of that. And then also just seeing there's no point. It's a bit of a dramatic drop into the bucket, I guess you could say. But I still like it, but I can understand where you're coming from here. Dark Side of the Moon is an interesting episode. They both died at the start was not what I was expecting. I like that Zachariah was pursuing them saying you're on night turf now boys. I like that he uses their mom against them. So God is an interesting. If we go on season 15, logic God is watching with a popcorn. Dark Side of the Moon is my fourth favorite episode of this season. It really shows how the boys don't really feel like they belong in heaven or hell. It's an interesting concept that the angels create multiple heavens of memories when righteous souls felt the happiest. For Sam, it's heartbreaking. His heaven is made from the memories that don't involve his family. And naturally Dean's happiest memories is with his family. It's one of the three things that really puts into perspective that one man's heaven is another man's hell. Ooh, good one Joe. The thing that really has stuck with me throughout this episode in the entire show, one is that we see one of Dean's memories that we see John and Mary did not have the perfect marriage that Sam and Dean made us assume that they had. As Dean put it, Mary and John had the perfect marriage when Mary died. The second is the concept of how Eric Kripke and the production team characterized God. Rather than making him a hero or a villain, it was a really smart move for this season for God to be an observer of free will of the universe more than a delegator of getting things done with the angels. I was one of the fans then not wanting God to have a physical appearance on the show for the sole reason knowing that if they introduced God, it's to be another villain that the Winchesters wouldn't have ever had to fight and kill. You and me are in the exact same boat. I was really happy we never saw him for a long time. For a time, I could accept God in supernatural as a lawful neutral character like Death the Horseman because we had a father figure who was characterized by the children of I.S. Children and we didn't know whether God was good or bad. And it just existed for allowing free will for his creations. It made the situation more heartbreaking for team free will, but the apocalypse looked like it was an inevitable conclusion for humanity. But also made it more satisfying to see Sam and Dean overcame it by their will and love for each other. Needless to say, when season 11 came around, I knew God and his sister would end up being villains. At some point, since the main theme of supernatural is putting family first, to literally and figuratively everything. The boys go to heaven. Again, Dark Side of the Moon is an interesting episode for me, and one I am personally split on. I remember being a bit underwhelmed when finding out that heaven truly, what heaven truly was, reliving your greatest hits for all eternity would kind of get old after a while, you know. I did always imagine heaven having a kind of euphoria filter, so on so no matter what you would be happy and feel great, but it never is talked about in the show, so I guess that's just me thinking too much about it. I actually like it in this episode because of how it is applied to the boys, where Dean is all about his family and Sam is more about his freedom, because the lack of the standard family unit. Thinking about it, I'm curious if this was at all manipulated by the archangels or God himself to further crush Dean's spirit, because that would for sure be good memories Sam could pick from his childhood. The problem I more so have with this episode is that it's a precedent of showing heaven and hell, and the first five, it's not so bad, but later on heaven is an office building and hell is standing in line. The hell line I kind of can forgive because it's more used for comedy, and that would probably be the first level of hell, so no fun, but not the worst, but my God and I hate season 8's heaven office building. Returning characters of Ash and Pamela are always welcome like how to traverse heaven, and I actually really like Joshua, being on the brother on the boys side, not being able to help them really at all. Not to mention the totally awesome opening and closing scenes where the boys get blasted in the chest with shotguns and wake up in the exact spot. I would have liked to see Dean catch up with those hunters at some point in the series, all the actual scenes in heaven are great and either funny or aimed right for the feels. From Dean's I Love Hugs t-shirt to Grown Sam's dinner date, to Dean needing an extra few moments with his mom to help cleaning up John's mess with his from a younger age. It's heartbreaking to see at the end of the episode, Dean having lost faith in his brother and throwing the necklace in the trash on the way out the door. Everything from episode 10 onward is meant to drive home the hopeless aspect of fighting Lucifer with this being when Dean is truly broken. All in all I do really like this episode, just have a problem for where it was taken later on. The office building of heaven, I always thought that was like the top floor. I think it was again in terms of like reusing sets, it's cheaper to reuse sets than trying to build new ones and whatnot and use different locations. So I kind of got where they were going with the heaven thing, especially since heaven was supposed to be an adversary, so giving them that office building. Sure it's a little bit of a cheap means but I do kind of get where they were going for it. I haven't seen the heaven room since season 13 I think or 14, whichever was the one where they said heaven was dying and they totally dropped that aspect of the storyline so I guess we'll find out about it later. I'll start with the pros, I love the concept of for heaven, it's extremely unique and thus it stands out from our other representations of it. I don't see the multiple heavens as a prison like Dean says, honestly it's the best way to contain 47 billion souls.  However, and I don't care if I come across as way too critical, this is a dab episode and his usual garbage is here as present, the biggest of which is making John seem unlikable in order for Mary to look good and Dean instantly whining about God and comparing him to another deadbeat dad. I can't stand this garbage, you have defended dab for not being lazy in the early day of the show and I'm sorry I don't buy it, he is not a good writer. Almost every bad episode of the Cricky Era is him in buck glimmings. Even this early on, you can see this terrible mentality that he used when writing characters. In order to make a character seem likable, he makes another look more unlikable by comparison, even though it contradicts previous stories. Once again like Jump the Shark, John comes off as a terrible father and a husband in favor of marrying the boys. Does this remind you of a certain Jack and Chuck storyline? Thought so. Even Dean's whiny nature is featured here, why would I sympathize with Dean when he and Sam are both responsible for the apocalypse?  For once in your self righteous life, understand and accept the responsibility of your actions. Jeremy Carver fought to fix this in his own era only to see dab devolve Dean into the exact whiny climb up my high horse brat we see here in season 13 and onwards. You can even see then that dab was a terrible writer that he is now. For the episode itself I like it, I don't think it's bad, however those aspects that I mentioned have become increasingly more noticeable and annoying for me upon rewatch. I do admit Dean's nature in this episode is a bit haphazardly, I guess they're really trying to hammer home the whole aspect of him being hopeless. And then your point about dab using one character to make another character look good, I do see that there.  And I don't know what you're going to go when we go to Hammer of the Gods, because that's one of his episodes and that's a flawless episode near on. But I can see where you're talking about here and I can definitely see the little dab is here early on. Dark Side of the Moon was an interesting episode, it was interesting seeing the happiest moments in Sam and Dean's life in heaven. I'm not surprised that Sam seems to see family differently than Dean, he's right, he didn't need a normal childhood like Dean has had as a child because of what happens to Mary.  And I'm glad that Pamela found peace in heaven, I forgot that they replaced Joshua with another actor in season 12. I wasn't surprised that God would refuse to help Sam and Dean with the apocalypse, I truly felt sorry for Castiel because he had so much faith that his father would help and stop the apocalypse when everyone told him that he wouldn't. And it was sad to see Dean throw the necklace away and that Sam gave him into the trash. I do like Castiel's moments in this episode, it's probably one of my favorite bits of this episode as we see Cass' faith break, his own reliance on his father just completely falls apart and I do like that aspect, it's probably one of my favorite bits of this episode.  It's going to be a fun episode from what memory serves me but I guess we'll see, give me your guys comments about that episode and I'll read those off in the next review. Otherwise, hope you enjoyed, if you did leave a like and if you're interested in more subscribe and then I'll see you guys next week. Thanks for watching the video, my name is Knitz and you might remember me from the animated cult classic TV show Undergrads. It's been a while but I'm happy to say the click is finally getting back together in an all new movie thanks to a successful Kickstarter campaign but we are still asking for your support. 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So we have been driving towards Sankata in a hearse Here's the people lined up calling for justice. This is For the deaths that happened yesterday We are in the this is the community called Sankata where the gas plant was that the community was blocking as part of the protest against this new government and the military came in to Stop the blockade to be able to get gasoline out to the city We only reason we got here all the roads have been closed is that we were driving here in the hearse And the people are getting the coffin out now, and there's just thousands of people The thousands of people Thank you And they're asking for justice I'm gonna stand up on this So if you see here Calling for the resignation of the president and are demanding justice I So here we are The president And this is just one of the seven people who were murdered by the military the people are lined up all over the streets here demanding accountability for the people who were killed yesterday Saying the president into this community center So we're inside now with the press we're going upstairs where they're holding vigil for the people who have died They're doing a biopsy now The doctors are in here doing autopsies, so we're waiting until the autopsies are done We're waiting here They're doing autopsies, so they're waiting till the doctors have finished doing the autopsies and then letting us in So I'm gonna see it outside We're gonna go outside while we're waiting here Yeah It's a family The families of the people who were killed yesterday murdered by the military Let's see if we can interview some people All right, I'm gonna stop filming Demanding justice What happened yesterday when the military attacked the plant where the gas I Here in this community center All right, let's go Should I stop the live stream and start again I Think I'm going to stop the live stream now and start again when they let us inside after they've done the autopsy So say stay tuned


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That was some welcome out there, whatever he's come home. Just that turn there from the ballerina tail, flags up there and I've seen all the kids down here and all the families, all the volunteers, all the people who over the years bought this place and they're growing up, that's what it's all about, that's where the lucky ones in there, Crow Parker, she used to use to play in the game, but that's for them ones out there, that's the people who the backbone of the club, the ones who bring the wanes through and the children through and the Catholic place and the Catholic house, that's what it's for out of the day, it's for all them.   What's the thing you'll never, ever forget? Well, I had to come around Crow Parker to see the fans, turn around, run that picture, turn around and see them all behind me, that's what's about, that's what's about, getting them in and out of Crow Parker, keeping them with you out, every club knows there's people around the clubs that do stuff and just doesn't get seen or doesn't get that message and that's what's about there for them today, the ground people, the coaches, seeing them, getting them in Crow Parker and be able to put a performance on them, they love and enjoy it and all would remember, that's what's about. How do you try and put under words the weekend that Steastown has just experienced? I'm not sure, Mal, I think we're setting the Raymond on the way home there, it'll probably be maybe months or maybe a couple of years before we look back and understand fully what these lads have achieved, you know, to be involved and play a small part in a team who, without yesterday and played, they came to football, they played in Crow Park, expressed themselves the way they did and to show people what they're capable of against the second best team in the country is absolutely phenomenal. I don't think we had anybody, it was less than eight out of ten, there's a number of them that were beyond that and for those lads to do that on that hallowed ground is just, it's just priceless, it's the stuff that you dream of, you know, I was talking to Keanu this morning about the possibility of that penalty and I picked that spot in Crow Park to have the nerve and the talent to deliver that. It's just, we're in awe of them to be honest, we've been hanging on their coattails for the last number of months and since we won Darian, you can see them start to flourish and grow and believe in themselves, it's been absolutely staggering and to see particularly the quality of football that they have come up against in the last number of rounds, you know, we conceded seven scores yesterday, seven scores against the Gale, the two lads started for Kerry last night, one of them won one of the match, we haven't conceded more than nine scores from the very final, everybody talks about the forwards, rightly so, but Owen can count them, Kevin, Lindsay and those guys are just, they have my full admiration. We had done a lot of research, Raymond, you know, in particular Raymond deserves massive amount of credit, we done a lot of research on trim and there was that feeling, I suppose privately the coaches had that feeling that they might struggle with our pace, there were three or four players that we targeted in exactly the same way as we did with the Gale, against the Gale, we thought if we could get to Andrew Barry, then he's really in our quarterback, he's the fulcrum for all our attacks, holds the defence together, if we could get to him and make him run backwards, then then he would have a long afternoon, he was subbed off, it was exactly the same with Torey yesterday, a sixth Tore makes them tick, and Oren took the legs from Torey, he ran them down the lines at Court Park, took them back into the middle, and 15 minutes left, they hold him ashore, you know, and that's just testament to the afternalism of this team. The training has been actually really easy to manage because, especially during Ulster, the level of those lads, I can't sing the praises of those lads in the squad enough, you know, I know 20 people were lucky enough to play in Court Park yesterday, 20 were lucky enough, there's another 12 or so that have earned that right just as much, and the quality of the training, so I'm really hoping that this year that we some big things from those guys that were where number 26, 27, 28, 30 whenever tomorrow, because they have made training easy, we have handed jerseys out, you know, the best session we had was in the lead-up to Dunham Wayne, and there was two or three fights, Kaelian Hughes got his nose broke, he was covered in blood, refused to go off, it's from a coaching point of view, it's dead easy. Just, I know you tried to put it into words afterwards, but it's just amazing. I wouldn't sink in for a while, we were driving up the road there, coming around the corner, we were singing songs and stuff on the bus, and everybody sort of took a breath whenever we came around the corner and seen all the flags, and the people of the community, people of the community just around here, and driving on the gates, there's no more words left for it, because it's beyond everything you could ever dream of, and seeing how happy it's made people, and sort of people looking for the photos and all the rest, I can see that we've already inspired another group within the city, which is absolutely fantastic, hopefully we've created a wee bit of a legacy, try and build on it now for the next few years, but these are special times now, and we've made history. Our preparation is fantastic, and it was the same, in Crow Park we did a wee walk around on Saturday, so it meant all the distractions were out of the way, we could leave the emotion at one side, it was like, right, how do we get the best out of our players, how do we get the best out of us as a team, and I like to think we got a really good performance in Crow Park. The way he's played with the kicking game, taking marks, using the space, it was streamland stuff playing like that. But it came down to preparation as well, we knew that they had space, and behind their halfback line, they left space in front of their fullbacks, and we tried to exploit it, felt really good front six, especially in Cajarra, Ben, they were very tricky customers at the best of times, and I think once they picked their eye off one player, it opens up the space for somebody else, you know. It was an intermediate football, you're looking at maybe four, maybe five really good players, and then you can try and exploit the spaces, and all our places were really blessed now, that we've had a good group come around at the right time, defensively. I can't, people like him, Canon, it's just been fantastic all year, obviously a really harsh record, but like he's been eating up kind of forwards all year, Baker, the same, you know, normally cornerbacks at this level, or I'll give the ball the number two, or give the ball the number four, if you give it to Baker, you're in for a hell of a night flick, if you give it to him. So our preparation's been fantastic, it's lovely to be able to deliver it on the big occasion, and see those stands of so many happy states town, and city people after the game, it's incredible. Final point, you won't worry about it for the next few weeks, but one of the senior ranks, Hugh said it up on the bus there, that he's not finished yet, but is there sort of a burning desire in there that he's can go and go another level? Well, it's up to you to try and establish yourselves at senior level, consistently, and deliver consistent performances. You've always got to look at the next year, that's what we've done all along. We won, Darien, that was our Everest for so long, but like I said to you before, we were all sitting in the bar on the Monday, after the crowd you find out, right, what do we do now? That's gonna really give Ulster a crack, and it was the same as soon as we won Ulster, it was like, right, what's our next challenge? So now that we've won Ireland, we will obviously soak this up and milk this for quite a while, but with no doubt, like there's enough real smart characters in our dressing room, and real talented players that are gonna just get focused and go, like, oh, what can we do next? The next step up, a big step up, Dairy standard football is top class, and we realised that once we got out of Dairy, we got on a bit of run, a bit of belief in ourselves. So the next step's gonna be a tough step. Let's take on the next challenge, that's what we want. You spoke about preparation, does that include your speech, did you rehearse it many times? Or is that straight from the heart? Those are secrets, I can't tell you that.


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Social Code is a marketing company which works with clients to find innovative ways to employ social media to target potential and existing customers. Emily works with a number of Fortune 500 companies to help them build communities on Facebook and Twitter, and so please take advantage of her expertise and submit your questions via the chat box on the CONX entrepreneurship page or via Twitter using the handle at CONX, C-O-N-X. Emily, welcome. Great. Thank you. It's great to be here. Great. I'm going to jump in with a question. Great. So first of all, what does marketing via social media really mean for entrepreneurs and small business owners? Sure. So social media marketing is basically a form of internet marketing that allows advertisers to promote or sell their brand, product, or services through a platform like Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, or LinkedIn. There are a lot of advantages to using social media marketing, so the primary one is the cost. Social media marketing is significantly cheaper than traditional media channels like television, billboards, or even email. You can reach the same number of users at a fraction of the cost. It's also the only marketing platform that allows you to interface with your customers directly and establish a meaningful two-way relationship, so you can get direct feedback from your customers about your product or your services, and then you can also message them about new offerings that you have. Results are really measurable, so marketers can easily understand what's performing well, what's not performing well, and because they've established this communication with their customers, what sort of things their customers are actually interested in, and these companies will get direct feedback from their users about what products or services are most interesting to them. And so that's a great aspect for customer relations to feel like they're really being heard by the brand. And I think the last thing is that the wealth of targeting that's available on these social media platforms is pretty insane compared to a lot of these more traditional media channels that you can buy advertising on. So if you think about Facebook, anything that you input into your Facebook about who you are, what you're interested in, where you live, advertisers can target you with ads based on that information. So you can really hone in on who it is that you're looking for and only target those users and reach those users who are actually going to be interested in your product or brand. Fascinating. So you mentioned traditional marketing techniques like billboards and sales. When should an entrepreneur or business owner turn to social media to market their product or service as opposed to these traditional marketing techniques? Sure. So I think one thing that can be a little bit scary for advertisers is that having this social media marketing is still pretty new to a lot of people, and it can be a bit intimidating to dive in, not knowing what sort of best practices are or how to measure success. And so traditional media is a little bit easier because it's been named in existence for longer. It's been proven as a valuable strategy. But I think what social has is the ability to move a lot faster and be a lot more interactive with customers. So you can get a social media strategy put together and implement it in a much faster way than you could on a traditional channel. The barriers to entry are a lot lower. And you can interact with your customers in a much more direct and meaningful way, which is great. So do you think across the board social media marketing is as useful for kind of all business models and products or is it more effective for some than others? So we think that social media should be a social media strategy. Every company should have one. Every brand should have a strategy and a presence on social media, although there are certain certain industries that may be certain platforms work better for. So if you're a consumer, a product, a retail store, it's great to have a presence on Facebook where you can share content about what you sell or what you do and interact with consumers that way. And then again, Twitter is huge for that to establish these personal lines of communication between you and your customers. If you are about business to business sales, being on LinkedIn is obviously a great place to be because that is a social media and a social channel that is designed specifically for business users. If you have a business like a graphic design business that naturally lends itself well to graphics, pictures, that sort of thing, then Pinterest would be a great place to establish a presence.  But generally we recommend that you should think about your social strategy in conjunction with your other strategies and looking at your marketing strategy in sort of a holistic way instead of focusing on individual channels and having them all work together. That makes sense. The brand identity. Right. So you want to make sure that your message is consistent from Facebook to Twitter to TV to Billboard to whatever you're doing and making sure those are all working together to support your brand and your marketing strategy. It's fascinating. What social media tools or new technologies should all entrepreneurs be using and what emerging tools should they be aware of? Yeah. So again, it very much depends on the brand and on the company. Facebook we think is a pretty good place to start with a global user base of over a billion people. So likely your customers are on Facebook in some capacity. But again, it's important first step to sort of determine where your audience is and where your customers are. So are they on Twitter? Are they on Facebook? Are they on Pinterest? If you can understand that then you can spend your money or your efforts in sort of the right channel where you're going to get the maximum return on your investment. So I think because barrier to entry is low, people often don't think about there and do sort of an audience analysis to figure out where their audience is. But that's a huge and important part of understanding and starting your social strategies to be on the right platform where your customers are. So we have viewers from all over the world tune in and you know, it's morning, noon and evening around the world where we are, where we're tuning into. Do you think social media marketing strategies are the same for global and local businesses? And how do they differ depending on the target country or you mentioned the customer demographic, but just kind of the global landscape of this. Can you tell me? Sure. So I think one great benefit of social marketing is that the internet is global. So make that makes every company whether it's a global corporation or a local business accessible. Excuse me. It's just one click away. So small fish can compete against big fish on the internet. It's just about finding your sort of target audience and hitting them. I think one big difference between large and small companies is that global brands obviously have larger amounts of resources, which can be good. But a negative for that is that they have to coordinate a lot of different teams together to get that messaging or those advertisements out there. So they have to be vigilant about coordinating strategy, branding, messaging and offers across many different departments. Small businesses, while they may not have the same amount of resources can be a lot more nimble in terms of making changes much quicker and that sort of thing. I think for at least on Facebook and Twitter, the offerings product offerings for advertising are the same whether you're spending $500 million a year or $500 a year. So it's really about the individual taking advantage of all those offerings. And for local businesses, like we said, the wealth of targeting that's available on Facebook really allows you to penetrate those local markets with really granular targeting. So you're reaching exactly the right people who you're interested in. And as an advertiser, you have access to that data. So you can anybody can create an ad on Facebook, regardless of whether you're an advertiser or you're just an individual on your own Facebook account.  So if you're a video game retailer, you want to target people who are interested in video games, you can target people who are interested in specific video games who are in specific age and gender demographics who live in specific areas of the world or specific areas of a particular state or country. That's amazing. Okay, we're going to go to audience questions. So we have a few questions lined up. We have a question from the Lincoln Reading Lounge in Pakistan. Hello, Pakistan. What should what should be the cycle of the social media marketing? What days of the week or what times should you post? I think that's a great question. Yeah, it is a great question. And it's one that we get from our clients all the time. So people want to make sure that the efforts and the spend that they're putting into Facebook are being maximized on the return. So again, unfortunately, there's no clear 100% right answer for this. It really depends on your brand and your audience. But generally, we recommend posting between one and three times per day. And we would recommend that you are posting every almost every day of the week. So you want to keep your users engaged, you want to keep that conversation flowing and you want to make sure that your posts and and what you're promoting on your page is always rising to the top, so that people will see it. So we tend to see generally that middle of the week and middle of toward the end of the day tend to be to be better performing. If you think about people's Facebook or Twitter usage habits, usually, you know, the end of the day end of the workday where people are getting a little bit tired, they tend to spend more time on Facebook. And then when they're home in the evenings, that can also be a great time to reach people weekends, we tend to see lower interaction rates, which I think makes sense. People are sort of out of their home, they're not on their computer, they're maybe out doing activities. Whereas during the work week, Facebook and Twitter and other platforms can be sort of a break in the workday. Can you talk about that? You mentioned it, the the interactivity part. How important is that to when you post something to make sure that you're communicating with the people who are responding to that? Yeah, yeah. So Facebook works as a tool. If we're talking about Facebook in particular has a system called Edrink, which is how they determine how posts get shown in your newsfeed when you log into your Facebook. So pages that have high interaction rates, meaning that when they post, there's a lot of fans who are commenting, liking and sharing their posts, they have higher Edrink. And so their content will be shown higher in the newsfeed, making it more likely that your content would be shown in your friend's newsfeed, their friend, their friend's newsfeed or something like that and increasing your reach. So constantly keeping your fan, fans engage with your page is hugely important for generating new fans, keeping your Edrink high and making sure that your content is actually being shown to people who will be interested in it. It's basically critical to your advertising strategy. Yeah, so you don't want to build and it makes sense. You don't want to build a community of people and then sort of totally leave them aside, forget about them. You want to make sure that you're nurturing them, that you're establishing this two way communication, reaching out to them, understanding, you know, if they have issues with their product or brand doing customer relations through Facebook and Twitter can be great. Or just messaging to them when you have a sale or an event, that kind of thing is huge to do through your social media channels. Fantastic. We're going to take another question. An online viewer asks, once you've created a Facebook page or Twitter handle, how do you get those first initial followers? Yeah, so there I mean, there's sort of two ways you can try to do it organically, which means not paying for it or you can you can pay for it. So when you're trying to build your page organically, it's really important to rely on your own networks. So reaching out to people who you think might be interested in your product or brand, your friends, your existing social network. So if you've created a page on Facebook, share that page with people your friends with who might also be interested in it or Twitter. If you want to pay for followers, you can also do that. Like we said, targeting is so important on Facebook and Twitter and other social platforms. So if you have a new Twitter handle and you're a charity that operates in the Middle East, you can target people who are interested in charities, who live in the Middle East and likely build your followers that way. Like we said, cost is relatively low on Facebook and Twitter and other social platforms in comparison to other media channels. And we've also seen through our work at Social Code that in some in areas like the Middle East and Northern Africa, there tends to be less competition in the marketplace. So prices can often be a lot lower, which is it's a great time to sort of get in there and spend a little bit of money and see a fairly substantial return. So you've talked a lot about kind of paying for ads on Facebook and Twitter. Can you similarly pay for ads on other social media properties? Yep. So LinkedIn is the other biggest one right now. Pinterest does not have advertising on it, but you can create your page on Pinterest and you can always promote that through your Facebook page or your Twitter handle and working all those things together in conjunction. It's like another question. So if you are from Pakistan asks, how would one use social media properly? For example, hashtags on Twitter, anything specific? Would leaving links on Yahoo answers be considered use of social media? So I think at social code we think of social media as specifically social platforms like Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and Pinterest where people have an identity that's their own and they're interacting with other people with their own personal identity. So Yahoo answers I think we would not consider social media given that there isn't necessarily a social aspect of it where you have a personal identity that you're sharing content, you're maybe just answering questions. In terms of how to use social media, I think Twitter hashtags are the most important thing for using Twitter. So if you are sharing content from your Twitter handle, you want to include hashtags that are relevant to your brand and that if people who are searching for those hashtags, if they see them, they'll see your brand and identify you with that hashtag. Maybe discover your brand or product by searching for that hashtag that they hadn't thought of before. On Facebook, I think one thing that we've mentioned is keeping that conversation between yourself and your customers. So having a conversational tone is great on Facebook talking to or creating posts on your page that are like talking to your customers and really establishing sort of an informal means of communication and a relationship with your customers that way. Like on Facebook, that's the most important technique. Like you said, nurturing that environment. Nurturing your customer relationship and the best way to do that is to talk to your customers like they're real people. So not trying to necessarily feed them a bunch of marketing speak but talk to them, ask them questions, ask them what they think about your product or brand, share things with them that aren't necessarily, you know, purchase this product but here's a cool thing that I saw and here I want to share with all my customers. It's really about creating a relationship, like we said, between the customer and the brand. Since we're talking about Twitter, I'll say that Emily tweets at social code Inc. and I tweet at Z-naught. Just my first name. Another question. A viewer asks, what do you suggest for entrepreneurs who are limited by a lack of funds for social media promotion?  Sure.  And I think the most important thing if you have a small budget is just do your research ahead of time. So like we said, understand who your audience is and what they're interested in and how you want a message to them before you spend any money. So design a social media strategy well in advance and then implement that and then you're spending your money where you know it's going to make a difference as opposed to blasting your message out maybe to people who aren't actually going to be interested in your product or offering and then wasting your money. So we would say start by doing sort of that audience analysis and understanding who is my audience, what are they, where are they, what platforms are they on and then if they're on Facebook, what are they interested in and how am I going to reach them.  I mean I think what what you're saying is just that you know even a little bit of money will show results and impact so you can even be experimental with that. Exactly, exactly. And we have customers at social code that spend you know on the smaller end we have customers that spend a ton and it's great to see that the results that you get with a small amount of money are very similar or the same as the results you get with a larger amount of money just on a smaller scale. It's great in terms of considering the barriers to entry because previously you wouldn't have been able to kind of enter that space. Right and if you're you know if you tried to advertise on TV and you only had fifty dollars you maybe would get a one second TV spot whereas on Facebook fifty dollars can certainly and in Twitter fifty dollars can go a long way. Fantastic, a question from Rome so how about Facebook publicity which I guess Facebook ads does it help more than a good strategy applied on your Facebook fan page? So it depends on sort of what your goals are again if you are don't have money to spend on Facebook advertising running promotions and doing a page content posting strategy would be more than sufficient to generate publicity you're going to have to rely on your social network and building your network of fans on your Facebook page in order for that content to reach more people so I think the benefit of using Facebook ads is that you can reach people that you might not normally have reached through your promotion on your Facebook page so if you post content on your Facebook page we usually see between 20 and 40 percent of your fans will see that content if you want it to be shared with more than that percentage you're likely going to have to spend a little money to get it out there but it's definitely not essential that you spend money you just need to make sure that your content posting strategy is very you know buttoned up and you've thought it out and done the research in advance so that you're posting content and reaching the right people with that content. So you said 20 to 40 percent kind of eyeballs on it if you if you're just posting do you know what percentage that is if you're doing an ad? It depends how much you spend but you can get it up to you know 90% of your base has seen it and you can also send your promotion or your post content out to people who are not fans of your page and get them to become fans or get them to interact with your content that way as well. Fantastic now we have a question from Chennai how does a business owner make their products stand out from the other products or services being promoted on Facebook via ads? Yeah so I think that's you know sort of a holy grail everybody wants their product to be the one that stands out and I think again establishing the relationship with your customer is really going to set you apart so if you're a brand you know and you sell laundry detergent there might be a 500 other pages of brands that also sell laundry detergent but if all those other brands are doing is posting you know once a week and saying here's our laundry detergent via today and you're saying hey moms who are doing laundry here's this really great tip for getting grass stains out of clothes and creating and making it a relationship that's not just about selling something to the customer but making it a relationship where it's mutually beneficial so you're sharing content with your customer that they're interested in that's not sort of jamming down their throat bye bye bye my product. Really good advice. A viewer from Uzbekistan asks could you describe some problems that entrepreneurs are facing today with social media promotion for example what are some of the common mistakes that businesses make with social media? Yeah so I think one huge mistake is not knowing their audience or doing the research ahead of time and wasting their money or wasting their efforts on people who are not necessarily interested in their content so again doing that audience research to understand where your customers are and what they're interested in and then only spending money or your efforts on those individuals. I think the other thing that people can make mistakes on that we've seen some of our clients make mistakes on is not knowing who that audience is or targeting an audience that's not necessarily going to become a consumer of their product so anecdotally we worked with a client who was a united it was in the United States they were affiliated with a grocery store and there it was a home delivery grocery service product and they wanted to get fans on their page and this is an offering that was only available a company that only available in the United States and they ended up paying for a huge number of fans from the Philippines and they thought that was great because they got a lot of fans on their Facebook page it was relatively cheap but that's not great in the long run because they've just bought a bunch of fans who can never become consumers of their product so although they have numbers on their Facebook page these are users that don't will not go on to interact with them in any way so their edge rank will drop there are also users who can never purchase their product or become consumers of their particular brand so we definitely don't want to make do things like that we want to make sure that if we're spending our spending our effort or our money we're targeting exactly who we want to be targeting who can actually go on to be consumers of our brand I think another big mistake that people can make is spamming so posting strategy is important you want to make sure you're posting enough so that people are staying engaged but you don't want to be posting 15 times a day or content that's really not relevant to your brand you want to make sure that if you're running ads people understand what they're becoming a fan of or what they're clicking on and how that's related to your brand or product so if you're that laundry detergent brand you don't want to be posting pictures on your Facebook page of like you know women in bikinis and trying to get fans that way because that's not indicative of what you're actually selling or who you actually are as a brand I mean I feel like two things you keep saying pretty consistently is that you have to you know know your audience that so which means I think means which may be surprising for people that it's not the more it's not quantity it's actually the quality of the people who you're building the community around right and that you have to add value right from your perspective certainly so you definitely quality over quantity if you have a million Facebook fans but none of them are going to be consumers of your product or brand then what's the point versus having five hundred highly qualified and targeted individuals who are engaging with your page on a daily basis who are attending your events and buying your product that's much more valuable to you in the long run great another viewer from Pakistan asks do you do you recommend marketing via Pinterest tumblr reddit or other platforms and how does marketing work on those platforms sure so those platforms don't have the sort of advertising capabilities that a platform like Facebook Twitter or LinkedIn does but that's not to say that you shouldn't have a presence there so Pinterest is one that we talked about earlier having if your business or company lends itself well to having graphics pictures sharing that kind of content it's great to have a presence there although you can't necessarily run ads on that platform you can support that platform through channels like Facebook and Twitter and LinkedIn and then tumblr again very similar to have a presence there is great if you have if you have customers there if a lot of your customers are using tumblr to share content then you should be there too if a lot of your users are using reddit then you should be there too but generally those they don't have the same sort of wealth of ad offerings that platforms like Facebook Twitter and LinkedIn do and so can you maybe talk a little bit about the value of just tech you know text written word versus video versus pictures do you do your social media strategy kind of have to encompass all of those things yeah we recommend that so again it depends on what platform you're advertising on but we tend to see that response rates are higher when you include images or video which makes sense if you can share an image that's engaging funny interesting eye catching that will do perform a lot better than it then you know just text about what you do obviously users when they see an image or a video that's associated with the text that will be much more engaging in eye catching and then if you're on a space like a tumblr or an Instagram should you feed that traffic back to your Facebook yeah definitely we recommend like we said thinking about your social media presence holistically and making sure that that channel is sort of complete and it's a circle that goes so if you're sharing content on Facebook that it's you're also linking to your Twitter and that you're bringing in Instagram posts and all that stuff should be integrated together so that if someone finds you on one channel they should easily be able to find you on all your other channels so another just following up on that kind of the different properties that exist another viewer is asking a little bit more about LinkedIn so when and how should you use LinkedIn yeah so we see that LinkedIn like we said is beneficial for people who are really trying to reach business owners who are doing business to business sales we yes so we've used it internally we've had clients run ads on it for credit card signups when they're looking for small business owners to purchase a particular credit card that sort of thing so LinkedIn is useful if you're doing things like that like really looking for people who are in specific industries and need to hyper target people that way however I think the barrier to entry on LinkedIn is slightly higher than it is on Facebook or Twitter and on Facebook in particular you you are able to reach people based on their job description or company that they work at so you know if you don't have a huge amount of money it might be wise to to proxy for people in a particular industry or position via Facebook targeting as opposed to LinkedIn and is is LinkedIn more specific to an individual versus a company brand it depends so you can target companies people who work at specific companies but you can also target individuals who have a specific job title so if you're looking to reach you know office managers or if you are a company like Salesforce and you want to reach people who are making decisions about revenue and sales you can reach people who have the title chief sales officer chief marketing officer that kind of thing really interesting a viewer wants to know when you say engage your followers on Facebook and or Twitter what exactly does that mean or entail sure so engagements on Facebook and Twitter just mean people are sharing liking commenting and interacting with your content as opposed to just consuming or viewing it so it's great if people are seeing your content but it's much better if people are commenting liking and sharing your content or or retweeting it or favoring it that kind of thing that's what we call an engagement so you know it's working when you see that stuff happen right and and that can also end or and excuse me and have resulting in earned media for you which we call it social code so that means that if I see a post on a page and I share it with all my friends all my network of friends of 500 people or whatever some of them will see that post the company that promoted the post to me didn't pay for those people but they that's earned impressions that they got because I shared the content and that's one of your goals yeah so if you are a company and and you want more and more people to see your content getting your users to share your content out to their own networks is a great way to get sort of those earned media impressions and generate your more impressions and more interactions with your content without paying for it another question from Pakistan so there are a lot of fake accounts on Facebook and Twitter how can you differentiate between real fans and fake fans yeah and I think that's a question we get a lot at social code I think that sort of gets a little bit overplayed in the media how many fake accounts there are we see that about 90% of Facebook accounts and Twitter accounts are people's actual identity so I think generally we recommend to our clients that that's not something they really have to worry about if they are targeting their ads in the right way in the first place and they understand who their audience is likely 90% of the fans that you acquire or generate on your page are going to be real human people which is great which is great exactly what you want and then if you do feel like you're getting a lot of spam the way to differentiate is just to sort of refine your targeting of your message even further so making sure that your messaging is really specific to what you're talking about to your brand to your page making sure you're not getting kind of a bunch of spam people in there because they think that your content is something that it's not right right can you start building a following on social media before your business is launched as like well it's still just in the idea phase can you start building that definitely you can create a page whenever you feel like it so you can create a page for something that it does not yet exist that's certainly within the capabilities of Facebook and Twitter and that can be a good way to sort of generate buzz about a product that is maybe launching later we have done that for clients where they have a product that might not be launching until the fall but they want to create buzz about it in the spring and summer so sharing that content getting people excited about something that's coming can be really influential it is a strategy different for kind of before it launches to when you actually yeah so I mean I think it depends but again having that strategy laid out in advance is great so knowing what kind of content you're going to be posting before during and after launch and then heavying up during those the launch time and then post launch to make sure that what you've shared is really getting out there and again using language that will generate buzz in advance so asking users questions sharing images maybe like a snapshot of what the product might look like or you know teasers about what the product might be that can be a really great way to engage your fans and people on Facebook and Twitter so we have an important question from Pakistan how do you define the word entrepreneurship who can be considered an entrepreneur I think anybody can be considered an entrepreneur if you have an idea of something for a business for something you want to sell or share your an entrepreneur and it's just taking what you've sort of your idea and putting in into reality that sort of moves from the idea stage to actually executing it is when you really develop that entrepreneurship and I mean I would agree with that I think you know anybody who has an idea and takes it from creation to realization is an entrepreneur and I think you know we're talking about tech technology tools or social media tools oftentimes people think entrepreneurs are only technology focused and you know frankly in many places in the world when I travel I mean entrepreneurs who are offering services in their community or selling a product that's really specific to where they live and they're not online and they're not it's not only technology entrepreneurs right as long as I mean if you're feeling a need or service that doesn't exist you're an entrepreneur yeah one of the things that one example that I remember all the time is an entrepreneur I met who's based in the US and he's but he's doing a lot of work all around the world now sign-spinning so he has people stand on corners like at doing ad sales by spinning signs and now I every time I notice a sign spinner I think of him because he is an entrepreneur he's not a Twitter but he's a right exactly a question from Bangladesh do you think a social network just for the purpose of business marketing will ever be created and would that be a good business idea that is an interesting questions one that I haven't heard before I think that it's possible but I think having the content like the ads on Facebook and Twitter integrated into the content that you're consuming on a daily basis is sort of the optimal way to do it so it's making people feel like the advertisements that they're seeing are very relevant to them personally based on this information that they've shared and I can't imagine that a business marketing social network would ever have that level of users so who wants to be a member of a social network where they just get ad search for them all the time so user base would be an issue and I also imagine that targeting and having insights into who those users are would probably be an issue so one thing that we said about Facebook is that it's to your advantage to share what's actually true about you on your Facebook so it's not good to have a fake name and a fake profile on Facebook because then you can't connect to anybody you want to have a profile that's indicative of who you are where you live what you do and so that is makes it extremely valuable for marketers because all that information that people have shared on their Facebook is true about them so you can target people in a way that is much more refined than other social platforms I think having the holistic platform where you can interact with your friends and share your photos and watch videos and then also get ads serve to you is sort of a better way to do it because everything is sort of encompassed under that one platform and then anything as a business owner then you can show how you're adding value to somebody's life right not just about exactly and not just trying to sell them something but establishing that relationship and and having a customer when they go to buy laundry detergent think of your product because they interact with you on Facebook as opposed to some other product another question from Bangladesh how can I make sure that my posts are reaching my target market and what do you recommend in regards to data analysis sure so there's you can target your posts on Facebook when you go to create a post you can set up parameters to say I only want this post to be shown to people who live in this specific area or part of this specific demographic which is a good way to gate your post so if you are promoting a contest that's only available in certain regions you want to make sure that those other regions are not seeing that content that aren't eligible for that particular promotion through advertising again targeting you can refine even further so making sure that your content if you're promoting it through ads is only being served to people who are interested in it so you can add again gender age geolocation and then keyword targeting so targeting people who are only interested if you're that laundry detergent brand targeting people who are interested in home house care cleaning products or maybe moms who have children that sort of thing and so but then so how do you know that it's working so you know that it's working when you get good engagement rates basically so you know that you're hitting the right people when people are engaging with their com with your content if you are promoting your posts and you're getting you know a lot of negative feedback of people saying you know I don't like this or commenting negatively or not getting a lot of likes or shares then you that's a good indicator to you that you need to refine your targeting and reach a more highly targeted audience that maybe is going to be more interested that makes sense yeah engagement right yeah it's all about engagement so you keep saying and I think people should remember that question from tonight when we market a business through social media what should the strategy be should we market the product itself or post about something else which the targeted customer base might be interested in even if it's not necessarily related to the product I think having a blend of the two is a key so we want to make sure that people know what it is that we're advertising for what the product is and you know ultimately we want people to buy that particular product right so we want to make sure that that we're including information about our product or brand at the same time like we said having a relationship with your customer is much more should be much more deeper and complex than just saying buy my product so like we said with the laundry detergent example sharing information with those customers about how to get grass stains out of clothes or you know if it's Mother's Day having a post about Mother's Day for all the mothers who use that product is great so you want to do a blend of both making sure that you're making you're making what you're selling very clear to the user but then continuing to engage them with maybe content that isn't directly relevant to buying your brand but is relevant to your overall sort of what how you want to be a part of your customers life so just a follow-up question to that so let's say if you have like a coffee shop in Chennai right and you want to open that and draw customers physically to come there do you then go on social media and look for you know the other coffee shops that are your competitors and try to kind of draw from there or do you post about coffee beans or both so you can post about coffee beans and what what kind of coffee beans you use in your particular store you can post you know here's an anecdote about somebody who you know came to our coffee shop and met their wife there human interest stories or here's a video about how the company that we work with produces their coffee and then also sharing content like hey today is Tuesday and you get 10% off this particular coffee so come in today and then competitive conquesting is what we call it at social code and that's great it's basically going after after your competitors and their fans so if somebody is a fan of coffee shop a in Chennai they're probably going to be interested in coffee shop B and you can on your page explain to your customers how are you different from coffee shop a do you have you know better beans or a better roasting technique or you know you have Wi-Fi in your in your store that kind of thing and using that your Facebook page to differentiate yourself from your competitors another question from Chennai with the current growth of live streaming video in the case of India particularly live streaming of sports games the potential customer base is around one million and growing every day can live stream video be considered the next it thing in social media and how can entrepreneurs tap into that and integrate that with other social media platforms so I think it sort of depends where that live video is coming from and if there is a social aspect to it so if you're just live streaming a video and there's no chat room there's no personal identity that's not necessarily social media and if you're if you're a company that's doing that sort of thing you want to make sure that you're integrating your social channels in it so if you're live streaming streaming something you should have you know a chat on Facebook at the same time about that content and integrating those all together I think that kind of user base if there's a million people watching a live stream you should certainly be capitalizing on that that's a huge user base that's all in one space at the same time so maybe you join the Twitter conversation about that and you draw users to your page by using the hashtags or interacting with them about what's happening in the live stream a question from Nigeria do you have any tips about selling products on Amazon and driving traffic to your product on Amazon so again Amazon not technically a social network but you should certainly be if you're that's your goals to sell products and Amazon creating a Facebook page and Twitter handle to help you do that is obviously hugely important so if you're a retail retailer and you have a Facebook page where you can say you can post a picture of something that you're selling and say here I'm selling this product for this amount of money and if you order today I'll give you 10% off and here's a code and then you can direct your users from Facebook to Amazon itself or from Twitter to Amazon and drive traffic that way and then again you're sort of keeping that holistic strategy of the channels of communication are all leading back to Facebook or Twitter one central location but on the topic of like the engagement that you keep talking about if you have customers writing reviews and stuff on Amazon you should be interacting with that yeah yeah definitely so I think it's a little bit tricky so you don't want to if people are writing negative things you don't necessarily want to engage people in a negative way but if somebody writes you know I this is the best product I've ever used sharing that content you can share that content on Facebook out to your fans you can communicate with that person on Facebook to say thank you so much here's a coupon for the next thing you buy and then that customer has a really great feeling about your brand not only did they buy a really great product from you but you told them you were really happy that they liked your product and you gave them another chance to come back and buy something else another question is it possible to evaluate your business idea to through social media to see if it's worth your investment yeah definitely so we've done that for clients before not just a business idea but messaging and determining you know what for like we said the the cost of advertising on social media is so much lower than advertising on on TV or billboards is that and that makes it easy for you to test different messaging or ideas on a smaller scale before you spend a huge amount of money on it so great business ideas you can share you can create a Facebook page like we said if your business doesn't exist yet create a Facebook page for it and see if people respond well to it if it would actually be viable you can do polls on Facebook so you can instead of posting a picture you can post a poll and say to your users if we sold this product or if we had this idea would you be interested in it that sort of thing so you can really gauge whether your idea is viable and that's a great place Facebook and Twitter are a great place to do that because users are so interactive and engaged from India in India people still have more faith in vendor or retail stores over online stores how can social media bridge this gap yeah so I think what's great about Facebook is that you don't have to be and you definitely don't have to be a technology company like we said or an online store to have a Facebook presence if you're a brick-and-mortar store you should have a Facebook presence to so that people can locate you on Facebook and then make the move into your store so we have done a lot of work for retail stores at social code where we're driving people to their Facebook page where they can share content about offers and all that kind of stuff and then the ultimate goal is to get those Facebook users into their stores and and that is part of sort of the complex strategy of messaging sharing offers to get people in person in the store in order to bridge the gap between online sales and and retail sales Facebook can be great at that like we said in developing a page for your retail store it doesn't have to have an online presence you don't have to be able to purchase things online but it's still great for your users to see you know here's a picture of this new product that they have in the store it's a new or they have are featuring a new designer and they see that on Facebook and they say oh my gosh I have to get into the store and then they go there that weekend basically so again it's just about promoting what you have available and sharing that in a more meaningful way that makes sense yeah I mean I think of like cutting coupons right and you back in the day would cut a coupon to go into a store but you would probably buy more things right than just a thing you had the coupon for it's kind of the same thing right and if you're a retail store being able to share in pictures and in video what you're actually selling in your store is a great way to get people in the door so if you again if you have a new product or a new you're selling you know a new brand or designer and being able to tell people that on Facebook is a great impetus for them to visit your store and they might not have known that otherwise and it you know I think what Emily keeps saying too is that it doesn't whatever your product is kind of whatever your whether you're online or offline or doing retail sales or doing a technology thing you need to have a social media plan yeah and you need to have a presence regardless so in these days if I hear about a store that I interested and I'm going to look that store up on Facebook before I ever visited in person and you know if you're get trying to get people in the door of your retail business it's great to have share your content about what they can expect to see on your Facebook page so that'll drive them into the store quicker because they've seen hey this is what they actually sell and I really like this so I'm going to get into the store today or tomorrow yeah a viewer asks is it possible to evaluate this virtual relationship between a customer and a trader you talked about this a little yeah so I think you can evaluate the relationship based on are you getting sales so a good way to evaluate that is to have when you when you check people out at your store you can ask them you know how did you find us did you find us via Facebook did you find us via Twitter or you can have you know Facebook or Twitter or social specific offerings so that if someone comes into your store with a coupon that they've printed from Facebook you know that coupon is only available on your Facebook page and so you know that that user has come directly from Facebook and that's a good way to measure it and then again you know measuring by the number of people and the amount of engagements and feedback that you're getting as well so that's a good way to understand you know as my customer are really interested in my product so you ask yeah you ask basically back and you can you know you can do those types of pull ads you can ask your customers questions yeah exactly so just interacting with them and asking them how they feel about your product or brand is a great way to get that feedback right another viewer from Pakistan says do most of the people do most people skip the ads or become desensitized to them because they see them so often and that's a question that we often get from our customers as well I think it depends again but the on Facebook and Twitter the goal of their platform is to make the ads integrated into your day-to-day exploration of the platform as seamless as possible so it doesn't an ad on Facebook doesn't look like an ad or like a banner ad on a website that's flashing in your face and things are changing and it's it's you know intrusive it's interrupting how you consume content on Facebook the goal is to have that content look so natural in your Facebook feed that you don't even notice that's it's an ad and that's what we tend to see I mean if you are running ads for a really long period of time users can become desensitized to what they're they're seeing and that's why it's really important to change your strategy to have content that you can sort of refresh to change out the images and the copy to make sure that what users are seeing is fresh in their mind you definitely social media is definitely not a place where you can sort of set it and forget it it's definitely you need to continue to interact with your customers change your strategy based on how it's performing and because you get such immediate results it should be fairly easy for you to do that but yeah again you don't want to you know put some content out there and then not look at it for another two months you want to make sure that you're evaluating regularly whether what you're doing is working and then tweaking it to make it work even better and so and then can you kind of speak to that regarding Twitter because don't the Twitter kind of promotional ads go to the top of a hashtag feed yeah exactly but again like Twitter is even more important because the immediacy of Twitter is such that if you promote something it could do well for a day and then the next day it might do terrible right or the next day there might be somebody who's also trying to get that space they're outbidding you and your ads are not serving so again making sure that you're constantly tweaking your strategy based on how the marketplace is operating and how what you've put out there is performing on Twitter having you know a presence and immediacy and a recency to your tweets is really important so if you tweeted three weeks ago that tweet got seen you know a huge amount of the beginning but nobody's seeing that tweet now so if that's content that you really want to be sharing you need to make sure you circulate recirculate it so it's rising to the top again and you talked a lot about the importance of hashtags and establishing your identity on Twitter and obviously oftentimes you could see what the hashtags are trending whether in your country your city you're in the world yeah can you take advantage of those hashtags to like draw people to you or is that definitely definitely so I mean you want to make sure that if you're doing that the hashtags are relevant to what you're sharing so you don't want to take a hashtag and just throw it at the end of your tweet even if it doesn't make any sense but if you see something is trending and you can see a way to apply that to your brand or your service then that's a great way to get your message out to a hopefully a larger number of people so like we said with the live streaming video you know if it's a sporting event and you're the laundry detergent company you might throw that hashtag on and say you know if you know your uniforms are really dirty this is this is a great product for you and that doesn't turn like consumers off I can't I mean it depends how relevant it is it can there might be some people that might not like that but likely the number of people who are offended by it is going to be far outweighed for them by the number of people who are interested in it or who don't pay any attention to it at all okay great as privacy is being stressed these days could it be possible for an entrepreneur to monitor their browsing habits and target specific ads or do you have to go to go through Facebook or third-party to do that so Facebook does have an offering where you can target people based on their browsing habits on other sites and this is called this is recently released it's available to people through power editor which is the tool that you can use to create Facebook ads it's called partner categories so partner categories is basically the Facebook has partnered with these three third-party data sites and they measure people's buying and purchasing behavior on other sites on Facebook so if you're that laundry detergent company you can go into these partner categories and there might be a partner category that is called you know frequent buyers of home cleaning products and you can target people who on other sites besides Facebook often buy or are interested in you know detergent or cleaning supplies like that so that's a really great way to make sure that you know what who you're targeting on Facebook is actually doing what you want them to do on other channels off of Facebook and hopefully your targeting is also so refined in people's identities are so real on Facebook that that shouldn't matter but this is just another way to connect people's off Facebook behavior with their own Facebook behavior what they're doing in the real world right right so hopefully they're what they're doing in the real world is very much like what they're doing on Facebook but this is just a great way to connect those two things together and you know partner categories run the gamut from people who are likely to purchase you know BMW motorcycles to people who love to exercise and eat healthy so they can be they're really specific and they can be really great for people who are trying to connect on an offline behavior social media marketers usually say that posts with pictures get more engagement but according to my experience normal posts get more engagement and more reach in Facebook what do you think Emily so I'll add one extra thing that which is that I think in a lot of the markets where this is being viewed you know smartphones may not be it's the way that they're consuming social media may be different that if you're in a phone is that different or if you have a slower internet download rate maybe pictures don't work yeah I think that's definitely could be possible if you are in an area where you know content doesn't load as quickly or pictures are you can't see them as well in your phone it might be to your benefit to just share content in text or something like that and that again is just you should be testing all these different things and figuring out for yourself what works so there is definitely not one size fits all social media strategy it really depends on what you who you are where you are and what you're advertising so it's great to be able to say this is what's working for me it might not work for somebody else but if you've determined that it works for you that's definitely what you should be doing and it goes back to your for your mantra of like know who your customer is and then develop a strategy right that right and so Facebook you can target people by a specific device that they're on so you can say I only want to be target people who are using iOS or Android and so that can be useful to you as well so if you are you know advertising for your app and your app is only available on Android you can limit your targeting to only that people those people and if you know again that your users tend to not have smartphones and to consume content on their desktop computer then you can tweak your strategy based on where you where your users and your audience are there's such a high level of specificity that you can get to it's amazing right and that doesn't exist anywhere else which is really really makes Facebook such a and Twitter such great platforms to work on because you can get to the your users in such a more detailed way and and you know as opposed to search marketing or TV you're not waiting for your users to find you you're going out and finding your users before they even know and like particularly to new entrepreneurs you know who who do you need to kind of try out a lot of things who may not have a huge budget who are trying to improvise in every category as they're building an idea exactly so okay we have time for one last question and this is a question from Italy what is the best way to manage negative comments and feedback on your Facebook and Twitter it's a good question yeah it's a great question for instance if you're being spammed by it and it will make you negatively influence your brand image is it acceptable to delete posts and when might you do this yes I think it definitely is acceptable to delete posts so if you get if you're getting posts on your comments or you're you're promoting something and you're getting posts about you know work from home and make $12 an hour or spam things like that it's definitely acceptable to delete those likely people who spam your page or not are spamming so many different pages that they're not going to notice that you deleted their content and you're making the experience better for your fans who are actually interested in what you're posting in terms of negative comments it can be a tricky situation if you delete someone's negative comment that might spur them on to comment more negatively they might feel like their voice is not being heard and that could be you know having even more negative impact what we see a lot of our customers do is is try to move those conversations from the public Facebook wall back into sort of the private messaging so or send those customers that have had negative experiences to their customer service department or provide a phone number that they can call and share those things with so generally if a user has a negative comment but you respond to it and say I'm so sorry you had that negative experience here's our customer service line or here's a coupon that's going to make the user feel like their voice was heard that this is a brand that they might come back and use again because their their concern was really valued and appreciated and that their concern was really given sort of credence and people understood that this is a problem and they wanted to fix it so you should engage those negative comments maybe take them to a private space so yeah directly kind of having that two-way engagement right and you want to make sure that you're you you're not necessarily responding to every negative comment but only those where you can offer some sort of constructive solution so if someone is constantly saying you know your page sucks you suck something like that it's probably not worth engaging that user because they're not really ever going to be interested in your content you can block them if they're really bothering you but if it's a user who says I was in your store the other day and nobody helped me or I bought this product and it broke that's a great opportunity for you to develop a customer relationship with them to say we're so sorry that happened here's our customer service line call us and we'll make it right that sort of thing can be great okay great unfortunately right of time so I want to thank you for sharing your insights today with us Emily and thank you to everyone who participated in this chat online a very active chat fantastic questions I know I learned a lot but just because today's chat is coming to a close does not mean that our conversation about entrepreneurship and social media tools is over on the contrary today's chat should serve as a launching pad for 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It is a pleasure to be asked to speak on the second Caricom Africa Day. This project, Caricom Africa Musings, is a wonderful initiative that will improve upon the narrative of the Middle Passage as a journey that separated us to one that reunites us. The year of return, which began in Ghana in 2019, was the formal beginning of a journey back to the motherland, the place from which all human life stems. We in the Diaspora have recognized that throughout history, the progress of humankind has depended on how well we use the accumulated knowledge of the time to transform and advance our lives. In fact, many of the diaspora have been going home and making contributions too and learning from African countries for many, many years. So today as we celebrate Caricom Africa Day, I'd like to share three things from the continent that I believe we can benefit from. First, the spirit of Ubuntu. I am because you are. This speaks to our connectedness, our need for community spirit and dependence on cooperation and integration for our progress. Second, the spirit of Sankofa. Do not lose the benefits of looking back as you jump forward. It is beneficial to always look back and retrieve that which can be used effectively in charting our future. Third, in the spirit of Sankofa, there are a couple of Africa experiences in the financial and economic space that we can learn from. One is the African continental free trade area, which was established to fast track economic activity on the continent and position it to take a more prominent place in the global financial structure. It was accompanied by a strong drive for financial inclusion, including mobile technology and e-wallets to digitize economic activity in far-flung communities. With widened broadband access, citizens can trade across territories and the unbanked can step into the digital financial world. The other is the pan-African payment and settlement system, a single monetary market infrastructure that allows financial exchanges securely across the continent's borders. Uniquely, businesses can transact in local currency. Imagine how much easier that would make the lives of our entrepreneurs, as well as facilitating better management of our foreign reserves. Undoubtedly, the development agenda of our two regions is perfectly aligned. We must therefore harness those synergies and integrate them for the benefit of our peoples. The Caribbean Development Bank is a strong advocate of public education. And these musings create a platform for integrating and implementing our shared agenda that will see us stronger as a people and result in resilient prosperity for all. Happy Caricom Africa Day!


What I regret most in my life are failures of kindness. That's a quote by a guy called George Saunders who went on to explain. He said, when I came across people in suffering and in pain, I responded sensibly. I responded in a measured way, in a mild way. And he considered that a failure of an opportunity to be kind. Today is random acts of kindness day in the world. Be kind to someone today and be kind to yourself today. Let's make kindness fashionable again.