Okay. Good morning, everyone. Hope you all had a good weekend and had a good time in God's presence. May I request somebody to please pray with a class and we will get started. Can I pray? Go ahead Divya, please. Sure. Thank you Father, thank you for this wonderful time that you've given us to come before your Lord to learn more from your word, Lord. You help us Father that our hearts, our spirits, Lord, our ears, Lord will be receptive, Lord, to your word, Father to the nudging of the Holy Spirit, Lord. I pray Father for your grace upon your wisdom, upon past vashis and each of us here, Father, Lord. Wherever we need, Lord, for the changes to be made in our lives, Father, we pray we surrender ourselves unto you, Father, Lord, that you may renew our minds, Father, with your Holy Word and transform our lives, Father, by the guidance of the Holy Spirit. We thank you, we praise you in Jesus' precious name, we pray. Amen, amen, amen. Thank you, thank you, everyone. All right, so in this course, 214 and developing the human spirit, we are in this section that we are talking about the interactions. I'm just trying to look at a little bit on the interactions, the human spirit and its interactions with the spiritual realm and I will give you the notes on this, maybe, I guess maybe next week, before class next week. But this is kind of laying the groundwork for our next chapter when we talk about the functions, the faculties of the human spirit and then the functions of the human spirit. So what we started talking about was the human spirit, that is our spirit and the interactions with the spiritual realm. How our spirit interacts with the spiritual realm.  So we are strictly staying with the Word of God and using the Word of God as the basis for our understanding on this aspect, how the human spirit interacts with the spiritual realm. And last week we were focusing on how God works with the born-again spirit, human spirit. So how God works with the born-again spirit. We talked about some things like the Holy Spirit bears witness with our spirit. So the Holy Spirit is testifying, he is speaking to our spirit. So the Holy Spirit is speaking to your spirit. So the word testifying, bear witness, means he is giving evidence or giving conviction for certain things in your spirit. And that's where, you know, like we mentioned last week, conviction that we are children of God, conviction that we are saved, conviction of what God has called us to do, the call of God, et cetera. It comes in our spirit because the Holy Spirit bears witness or gives evidence or gives conviction in our spirit. The Holy Spirit, secondly, we also said the Holy Spirit teaches or gives revelation to our human spirit. So of course, we are going to read the Word. You know, we study the Word. But insight into the Word and understanding of spiritual things is a combination of the written scriptures, but that illumination comes from the Holy Spirit. He's the one who opens our eyes to see these things. And so the Holy Spirit teaches or gives revelation to our human spirit.  So at the right time, the Holy Spirit quickens, he awakens things in our spirit. So we have to be open, you know, open to it. Thirdly, we talked about the fruit of the Spirit. The Holy Spirit works in our human spirit to cause the virtues of Christ to be formed and to be revealed through us. So he causes love, joy, peace, kindness, meekness, those things. So if we formed in our human spirit, it becomes a part of us. This is how we, you know, we, this is what we become. And then of course it's expressed through our lives, through our emotions and our, the baby live. So God works and the fourth one, number four is God works through our spirit. The manifestations of the spirit take place through our spirit and then through our human person, physical person. So the Holy Spirit manifests himself. He reveals himself how through our spirit, through our mind and body. So example, a word of knowledge may be given in your spirit. And you process it with your mind. Okay, this is what I have to say. These are the words I'm supposed to use. And then you say it and you know, express it. But the Holy Spirit is manifesting himself through that word of knowledge or through that word of wisdom or through that gift of he gives healing or working miracles. But he releases it into our spirit and then from there of our mind and our body, you know, cooperate and we release it. So four important things we said, right? On how God works with our human spirit. Right? He bears witness to giving conviction. He gives revelation number two. He produces the fruit of the spirit. And number four, he manifests himself.  When you love somebody, when you show compassion to somebody, when you help somebody, you know, God is manifesting himself through you. Right? And it starts off in the spirit and it flows out. So developing sensitivity to the spirit in our human spirit is so important. Which is where the faculties of our spirit come in. Through the faculties of our spirit that we are able to, you know, to commune with the Holy Spirit, to pick up or to receive what he's telling us through our faculties and then we express it in the words we say and what we do, so on. Today, I want to stretch us a little bit, maybe more than a little bit. I want us to look at spiritual experiences in scripture. Okay. The reason I'm stretching out, this is going to be a little stretch. Okay. But I'm doing, we're doing this now so that when we start talking about the next chapter, which is the faculties of the spirit, then we'll be able to say, oh, okay, I can connect whatever I've learned from this chapter, which is how God works with our human spirit and the spiritual experiences that are possible. Okay. Oh, the faculties of my spirit, God uses that to give us these spiritual experiences. But of course, every spirit experience has to be verified. It has to, you know, kept in subjection to the truth of the written word of God. We want us to be open to these kinds of spiritual experiences. Now, if we go into the Bible and we start from Genesis chapter one and we go to Revelation 22, the Bible is full of spiritual experiences that people had. And we must, you see, people have changed. We have changed. Times have changed, but God has not changed. So God can work today the way he worked in the Bible. I know the Bible is a book that has, that records things that happened thousands of years ago. Times have changed, of course, but God hasn't. Our human spirit hasn't. I mean, the human spirit is still capable of the way it was faculties with which it was created in the beginning. We need to be open to the ways in which God would work with each of us. Now, of course, you know, one of the things we do understand is that God doesn't give everybody all the spiritual experiences, neither does he give everybody identical spiritual experiences. We are aware of that, right? So, you know, just because Moses had it, doesn't mean it'll happen the same way with you and with me or, you know, we will look at some examples. But what I want us to do is be open, be open spiritually, be open to these experiences. Of course, we have to be discerning. We know that there is a dark side, which is evil spirits try to imitate the Holy Spirit. We know, you know, Paul warned us that even the angels of Satan sometimes pretend and come as the angels of light and we are aware of that, but that should not cause us to completely block out the genuine spiritual experiences that God wants to give to us in our spirit. The purpose is for us to experience him more, to love him more and reveal him more, right? So, the purpose of these spiritual experiences is revelation for us to know him. God reveals himself to us and also God reveals himself through us, revelation, revelation to us, revelation through us, for us to know him more and us to make him known better to people, right? So, that's the objective here in these spiritual experiences. So, I hope today we will touch upon some of these things and it'll stretch us a bit, just open us up a bit. We will start off with 1st Peter chapter 1, please. And could somebody read verses 9 through 12? I'm going to speak a little fast because I want to cover a lot of ground today. And so, I hope you don't mind. And I realize we just have a month and a little over, a month and two weeks to finish things. So, I'm just trying to pick up a little bit of speed. 1st Peter chapter 1, verses 9 through 12, please. Shall I read first? Please go ahead. 1st Peter chapter 1, verses 9 to 11. Receiving the end of your faith, the salvation of your souls, of this salvation, the prophets have inquired and searched carefully for prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when he testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and glories that would follow. Could you read verse 12 also, please? To them, it was revealed that not to themselves, but to us, they were ministering the things which now have been reported to you through those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven things which angels desire to look into. Amen. So, I want us to read this passage to start off here because I want, when we go into the old test, when we look at some of these experiences these people had and of course there are many, we're not going to look at all of them, I'm just going to point out certain of those experiences. What we must understand is it was the Spirit of Christ. Look at verse 11. The Spirit of Christ was at work in these prophets of old. So, this is not the work of a different Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit in the Old Testament is not different from the Holy Spirit in the New Testament. He is God. The same Spirit of God was at work. The New Testament Holy Spirit is the same as the Old Testament Holy Spirit, just to put it plain and simple. He hasn't changed. Same Spirit of God. And this Holy Spirit who's working in you and me today who worked in the early church is the same one who worked in the people in the Old Testament, same. And what did he do? He showed them things. He spoke to them things that they had to search out verse 11. So, they had to search out, they had to figure it out. It was beyond their minds to understand. They had to search it out. It wasn't something they understood right away. So, searching what? And also, they also had to understand time. Oh, when is he talking about this? That means he was speaking of things. They had no context. Neither did they have any time. It wasn't for their time. It was outside their time and space, so to speak. So, the Holy Spirit was showing them things that they had to search out. It was beyond their own immediate understanding. And it was also beyond their own immediate time. So, he was showing things way into the future. Things such things, right? And so, they had to search it out. They had to try to understand what manner of time. And the Holy Spirit was telling them verse 12, that they were actually speaking of things that were meant for people in another generation. That is, you and I, New Testament believers. So, the points I want to get across here from this passage is the same Holy Spirit who worked then, same Holy Spirit. Same Spirit of Christ worked in the Old Testament prophets. Sometimes in other minds, because we so divide Old Testament, New Testament, sometimes in an unspoken way, we also think Holy Spirit is different. No, no, same Holy Spirit, same God. The dispensations are different, of course. In the Old Testament, only certain people, the prophets, priests and kings, experienced the anointing. But in the New Testament, every child of God experiences the work of the Spirit. So, it's much better. But same Holy Spirit. So, think about some of the spiritual experiences that people had in the Old Testament. And I'm just picking out a few of these men of God and people of God in the Old, and then we will talk about a few in the New. The idea is I want to point out certain things that happened in these spiritual experiences so that we can be open to similar experiences. I'm not saying same or identical, but I'm talking similar. That means God still speaks. He may not copy the same thing, but there will be similar experiences for you and me. So, example, Moses.   Imagine a bush that's on fire. So, God is using something in the visible world to get his attention. And then on. I want to just go to one little passage in Exodus, the 24th chapter, just to talk a little bit about some of these experiences. Exodus chapter 24, so we'll all turn there, verses 15 to 18, Exodus 24, 15 to 18, please. Somebody could read that for us. Moses went out there. Like, go ahead. Whoever read first, go ahead. Moses went up into the mountain and a cloud covered the mountain. Now, the glory of the Lord rested on mountains in high and the cloud covered it six days. And on the seventh day, he called to Moses. Out of the sight of the glory of the Lord was consumed by the mountain in the eyes of the news of the stress. Moses went into the midst of the cloud and went up into the mountain 40 days and 40 nights. Now, we know that this kind of an experience repeated many times in Moses' ministry time. In the years of his ministry, we're just reading one passage. But I want us to think about this. Look at verse 15. There was a cloud, which was actually the presence of God, God himself coming in the cloud. So God had told Moses many times. And you can look this up in Exodus 19, verse 9, where God says, I come to you in the thick cloud. So the Exodus 19, verse 9. So the thick cloud, what is it? It's not, you know, the what do you call it? The atmospheric cloud. It's not a rain cloud that we're talking about. The thick cloud is God's presence manifest. It is God coming. But this is only a visible expression of the presence of God. So here in Exodus 24, verse 15, it says, a cloud covered the mountain. We're not thinking of an atmospheric cloud, you know, a rain cloud or something like that. That's not what it is. God said, I come to you in the thick cloud. That means this cloud is God coming. It says presence. And Moses is climbing up the mountain into this cloud. And it says six days. It's like this. Six days. And then on the seventh day, God is speaking to Moses. And not only was there a cloud, but we're 17 says it. There was this consuming fire. So that's again another visible expression. Consuming fire, thick cloud fire. So the fire and the cloud, we know it, that it is very much a part of the journey of the people of Israel. So there's a consuming fire. So what were the people seeing from, you know, below the mountain? They saw the cloud. They saw the consuming fire. Moses is already there seven days. And verse 18 says he went into this. And he was in the cloud and the fire of 40 days. Now it doesn't mention certain things.  That's, that's all that is unsaid, but we can know from other passages when people encounter and be just reading this one. But we know from other passages from Moses and also from Elijah that there are times when we encounter the presence of God and natural laws or natural biological processes. Are suspended. So what, so what are we saying? We're saying, look, we're talking about 47, at least 47 days, because seven days plus 40 days, 40, at least 47 days. Moses is in the presence of God, the glory presence of God. There is no indication Moses, you know, went to eat or went to sleep or any of that. And based on other passages, we can say he didn't have to eat. He didn't have to sleep. He was caught up in the glory presence of God. But in that presence, natural biological processes were suspended temporarily, not needed for 47 days. So there has God, God's presence seized doing such things. Answer is no. And I just want to leave that thought with you and we will see this again, you know, in other other other experiences, spiritual experiences that there are times the human spirit so connects with God. So the objective here is for Moses to meet with God. But in that spiritual experience of a man meeting with God, in order to hear from God, so on. The presence of God is suspending natural biological processes for that period of time, not needed, overridden. Another person we want to look at is Isaiah, we just touched upon one of his experiences, we go with me to Isaiah chapter six. And there we see about Isaiah having, this is Isaiah six versus one to eight, where Isaiah is having a vision. So he's here on earth. He gives us the year in which this vision happened. It happened in the year King Isaiah died. And he's having a vision and he's seeing right into heaven, spiritual experience right here on earth, but God is helping him see heaven or is opening his eyes is seeing heaven. Now how far is heaven? You don't know, but this is spiritually, it's like as though he's there as the heaven is just, you know, like a few feet away, but he's seeing heaven. And he's seeing God on the throne, the Lord on the throne here seeing the train of his robe. That means he had this long robe that filled the temple. So again, God is showing him something that he can identify with. This train of the robe is, you know, the longer the robe, the longer the train, it's more majestic, it describes the majesty of the person. And usually they'll have many people carrying the robe, the flowing robe with which, you know, the king of the queen, the royalty war. So he's saying, I saw the train of the robe, it just filled the whole temple. Meaning God's majesty, God's glory just filled the whole temple. And then he describes these angelic beings. I noticed something here. He is not only seeing, but he's also hearing. This is verse three. He is hearing what they are talking. Where is Isaiah? He's here on earth. Where is he looking into heaven? He's seeing everything so as it was so near. He's seeing and he's also hearing. He's hearing what the angelic beings are talking. Now, normally you and I don't hear what spiritual beings are talking to each other. Right? Here the cherubim, cherubim or seraphim, the worshipping angels are crying to each other.  So he is seeing, he is hearing how, not with the physical eyes, but with the spiritual eyes. So there are faculties of our human spirit, which are given the privilege to interact with the spiritual realm. So he is seeing, not with natural eyes, or not with natural ears. He's seeing the spiritual, he's seeing heaven's throne room. He's seeing the Lord, he's seeing the glory, he's seeing the robe, he's seeing the temple, he's seeing the cherubim. He's also hearing what they are saying. And there is the voice of him, verse four. It says the voice of him, that that seems to fill the whole place. And of course Isaiah responds, you know, so I'm a man of unclean lips and so on. And then look at something very interesting, verse six. There seems to be some sort of interaction taking place between Isaiah and the spiritual realm. What's happening, verse six. The seraphim is taking a live call from the altar and touching his mouth. Think about it again. Live call, altar in heaven, touching Isaiah's mouth. And he says, when equity is taken away, your sin is purged. Now obviously it's not in the physical, because if it had happened in the physical, you know, he would have had burnt lips. And if you take a hard call and put on your lips, it's going to hurt. So obviously it's not a physical experience, it's a spiritual experience. But he's talking about call. He's talking about mouth. And he's talking about lips. So the inner person, the spirit person is actually experiencing this. So the spirit person is the human spirit. The inner person, spirit person is actually engaging with the spirit realm in this manner. Where things of the spirit are touching the human spirit. And of course there's things, there's a purpose in all this. In this particular case, it's purging, cleansing the inner person. And at that moment, he hears the voice of the Lord. How does he hear the voice of the Lord? Not in the human year, but in a spirit year, the years of his human spirit. He's hearing the voice of the Lord and he receives his commission. So I want you and me to open our spirit and say, Lord, these experiences can happen to us today. Why? Because the same spirit of Christ who worked in all these prophets is at work in you and me today. Think about Ezekiel and we will give some time for questions. I just want to cover some ground and then we will discuss things. Think about Ezekiel. I want to highlight just two parts of Ezekiel's experiences. I mean, throughout the book of Ezekiel, he has amazing spiritual experiences. But I just want to highlight a couple of them. If you go with me to Ezekiel chapter three, Ezekiel three versus one to four. Okay. So the Lord is speaking to Ezekiel and it actually, you know, everything starts actually from chapter one. We can see a lot of these things from chapter one, but I'm just highlighting something here. In chapter three, the Lord speaks to Ezekiel. He says, verse one, eat this food. Ezekiel, he says, verse one, eat the scroll and go speak. Eat the scroll. Then he says, verse two, I opened my mouth and he caused me to eat the scroll.  Then he says it was like my mouth was like honey and sweetness. And then verse four, he says, go speak my words to them. Now, if you think about these, this little experience, okay. Now, the many, many experiences Ezekiel had and just highlighting one or two of them, few of them. You think about this experience. It's not a physical experience. Obviously, basically, we don't chew on a scroll and we're not going to be able to eat it and swallow it. And it's not going to go in our stomach physically. So that's completely ruled out. It is not a physical experience. So it is a spiritual experience. Okay. Spiritual means the human spirit is experiencing this. What all do we see here? Of course, first of all, he's hearing God speak so the human spirit can hear. It's got the faculty to hear. These faculties we'll talk about in our next chapter, but I'm just highlighting these things. It's got the faculty is hearing God speak. Second, God is telling, eat the scroll. And verse two, he opened. I opened my mouth. What mouth? Not the physical spiritual mouth of the human spirit. Eat the scroll. Verse three, feed your belly or your stomach. Verse three, in my mouth, it was sweetness. He could taste. He got that sense of taste.  So we see the human spirit having in its interactions with the spiritual realm, it's having experiences just very much like what we would say the natural body. Just like the natural body, like the natural body, but actually the body is a copy of the spirit. The body's temporal, the spirit is eternal. So what's eternal is more real than what's temporal. So the body follows the spirit. Now, the spirit is hearing. It is seeing, it's eating, it's tasting and it's receiving commission. So is it possible that the human spirit can have such experiences today? And that's what I want to impress on you and me. The answer is yes. That even our human time has changed. Times have changed. Yes, Ezekiel lived over 2,000 years ago. But our human spirit has not changed. God has not changed. The Holy Spirit who is ministering to our human spirit has not changed. Therefore, you must be open to such experiences. One of the reasons we don't have such experiences is we've blocked it out. So even if God begins to give us something, immediately God, sorry, no, it cannot be. It doesn't fit into our framework, our theological framework doesn't fit. So immediately we block it or we just turn away from it. And so God cannot proceed because anything more he says, he knows we are going to reject it. So why should he speak or give us that kind of experience to communicate to us? Now, understand the purpose of this whole experience was so that Ezekiel could be commissioned to serve the people. But God is doing it in this manner. And in the same chapter, we have, you know, if you look at verses 12 and verse 14 and verse 12 and 13 and 14, same chapter. You see something more. Verse 12, Ezekiel 3 verse 12 says, The spirit lifted me up and I heard behind me a great thunderous voice. Blessed is the glory of the Lord from his place. And I heard the noise of the wings, the noise of the wheels. Verse 14, the spirit lifted me up and took me away. I went in bitterness in the heat of my spirit, but the hand of the Lord was strong upon me. Now, think about this. The spirit lifted me up and took me now in the book of Ezekiel, in the book of Ezekiel, many times Ezekiel has this experience. It's interesting if you just go through the book of Ezekiel and, you know, point out, you'll find it in chapter 8, verse 3. You'll find it chapter 11 verse 1 also in chapter 43 verse 5. I put it in the notes and when you get the notes, you'll see it. But it repeats many times. The spirit took me and lifted me. So there are two kinds of transportation experiences that can take place, at least two. One is the Holy Spirit causing your human spirit to travel in the realm of the spirit, the spiritual realm. That's a legitimate Ezekiel had it many times. The Holy Spirit taking him in the spirit and showing him certain things that are happening. You know, the Holy Spirit showing him what's going on in the temple, so on. It is hard to tell whether, in some of the cases in Ezekiel, whether it was exclusively in the spirit or was it physically transported. And sometimes it seems like it was physically moved, but sometimes it seems like it was in the spirit. So we keep both open because we know, as in the case of Philippine accept rate, physical transportation by the Holy Spirit is possible. The Holy Spirit takes you from one place and puts you in another place. That is possible. And as we see in Paul's example, spiritual travel is also possible. But it's very interesting here that, you know, if you focus on the spiritual travel, that means the human spirit is traveling and God is exposing the sins. In Ezekiel's case, he's showing him, look, this is the sin that is happening here. This is what is going on here. He's showing him. So that means physically he's in one place. But the Holy Spirit is taking his human spirit. He's going and seeing what's happening behind closed doors in the inner court, or he's going and seeing what's happening in Ezekiel. And we know, we have some experiences in the New Testament with Philip and Paul and later on with John as well. So we know that this is not just, you know, only for an Old Testament prophet, but it's happened in New Testament. So just a few more minutes and I'll have to close. So you can look in Daniel's case, his spiritual experiences. In Daniel's case, you'll see that, you know, his physical body was so affected by his spiritual experiences. Daniel writes, and this is in chapter seven, chapter seven verse one and verse 15. Now, when he has these dreams and visions that God shows him, Daniel said in verse 15, he says, you know, my body, my spirit within my body was free, and the visions of my head troubled me. It's so affected him physically, the spiritual experience of the visions and dreams that he would perceive from God. And we see also very interesting in chapter 10 that a spiritual experience can weaken the body, a spiritual experience can also strengthen the body. Daniel's, when he encountered the angel, he fell as one dead flat on his face, but then the angel strengthened him. Stand up, Daniel. You know, so it happened, you know, the spiritual is touching the natural realm while he's having a spiritual experience. Okay. Paul the Apostle, sort of, he mentioned Philip, who was spiritually transported. Paul the Apostle, again, had so many spiritual experiences right from his Damascus Road experience. He writes in second Corinthians, he was caught up into heaven and he was shown things which he shouldn't even utter. And John the Beloved, his body was here on earth, but in the spiritual event, he saw, he heard. He had conversation and I can just imagine the natural man was, the physical man was writing the things he was seeing, but a spiritual man was experiencing, hearing, seeing, having conversations. And the natural man was writing and recording everything that the spiritual man was hearing, seeing, experiencing and so on. Okay. So main points. In our interactions with the spiritual realm, we need to be open to the kinds of things you see in the Bible. I'm not talking about going outside the Bible. No, I'm just saying whatever is in the Bible today, you must be open to it. So why? For these two reasons we said in the very beginning, first, for us to know God, second, for us to make Him known to others, to know God, to make Him known. That was objective in the Bible. You see, when God gave these experiences, it wasn't just for fun, it's, there's a purpose behind it. The people who received the experiences were strengthened and then they strengthened others. So today, open up your, I shouldn't say your, we must open up our spirit. Say, God, if it's in the Bible, I'm ready for it. I desire to have these kinds of experiences. I desire to my spirit to have these experiences. So this, I want to close with this point, we'll take questions. So this brings us to the next chapter, which is the faculties of our human spirit. Because God is going to use these faculties, like what you see, what you hear, what you taste and what you feel and things that you can do. He's going to use these faculties with these experiences to communicate to us. So to get started, you know, we should be open to the very simple, simple things. And then from there, God will take us on into more and more of these spiritual experiences that we see in the Bible. Okay, so let me pause here. I think we have about four minutes for questions. We'll take it up and I'll supply, I'll make these notes available for next class. In the next class, we get into the faculties. Any questions, please? I know I spoke a little fast, but any questions? Prastika, can I ask? Go ahead, please. You said we should be open to it, but can we even ask for it? Yeah. Or it is God who himself decides like whom he would give such an experience like that's my question. Yeah, so I think our first is being open. Our second is asking, but asking or desiring for it, but with the purpose, right? So from our side when we ask, so the Bible does say in the New Testament, you come in 1 Corinthians chapter 12, 1 Corinthians 14, the Bible tells us to desire spiritual gifts, to desire these things, not to despise prophecies, not to despise these things. So we can ask, but we don't necessarily ask God saying, God, I want to travel from Bangalore to Delhi. Just give me my free trip. That's not the point. The point is, you know, a purpose, right? So just, you know, it could be a general or a specific purpose. A general purpose would be God, I pray you'll speak to me so that I can be a blessing to people, you know, whom I'm serving. God, I pray you'll reveal things to me, speak to me, show me whom I need to talk to, whom I need to call, or if there's something that you want to get across to somebody, God. So you're praying general prayers that, you know, that you are making yourself available in a general sense, or spiritually, or specifically.  And, you know, so that's how we learn to flow in the gifts of the spirit as well, right? So we do that, right?  You're about to call somebody. God, show me something. Or are you going to minister somewhere? God, show me something. You know, so that's specific or general as well. So the answer to your question is yes. I'll be praying ask, but ask it with a purpose. Yeah. Christopher, your question about one or two personal spiritual experience. I mean, and just quickly mention this, maybe. Yeah, just a couple of things. Yeah, so just to give you like, okay, two Sundays back. So not yesterday, which is 20th March or the Sunday before, which was March 13th. So for example, right in central when I was ministering. Just, you know, while I was standing in the, in the worship time I was standing in the congregation.  And, and I'm just, you know, seeing like lights coming up everywhere in the nations. And, and the whole sense that God was going to, you know, move people, you know, travel back and forth, travel to the nations, tell people to be ready to be transplanted into the nations. So that was kind of just that was happening. So while during worship. So when I went up to the stage, I just said, you know, and it was very strange thing. I don't always say some stuff like this, but I just said, okay, this is strange thing to say, you know, for me to tell the congregation, but I want to tell you that based on what I've, you know, felt for people to be ready to be transplanted to the nations moved from here to go and you're, you know, you'll feel that your seat is empty but God will bring somebody else in. Secondly, some of us will go back and forth across to the nations and some of us will be here and from here we will impact the nations. So I had a spiritual experience while standing in the audience seeing this these things and knowing it was God giving me this experience. But when I went up in the state I articulated it in in these words. So that's one instance and then, you know, immediately, so many things began to happen from the time I've spoken.  One is people sort of said this is a confirmation for us and about being transplanted to the nation somebody was just having these kind of situations where they had to travel back and forth to the nations. And then most amazingly, you know, and all this happened in the week. So yesterday somebody came in and, you know, one of the big things in my heart was God, we need to be able to, you know, do work in the nations. But our limitation is we're not able to send money outside of India. We're not legally allowed to do that. I was thinking of all our Bible college students, you know, next year, many of you will be graduating and I was thinking God, we need to plant churches in the nations. Some of these students will want to start ministries. How do we help them in the nation? So we had all these parts in place. The only thing we didn't have was money. You know, the ability to send money to the nations because we can't send it out of India. Yesterday somebody came and said, look, we have all this amount of money in the US and we're going to get things, you know, we will get things organized set up in the US. From there, we can send money to the nations. You know, so I was just amazed and, you know, we will be sharing more details with our Bible college students. So literally we are getting things ready where we can help people start ministries, start churches in every nation of the world. It all happened yesterday. You know, in the last one week after I spoke the word, you know, I'm amazed how all of this, so the spiritual experience happened on 13th, within 20th, all of these things. Many people have testified and even this thing for something I was getting in my heart, God, how do we, you know, our students are going to graduate. We, we need to start work in the nations. The only thing that's preventing us is this financial part, you know, because if you want to plant a church, you need money. How are we going to do it? And yesterday, everything was like, God put it. Now the only thing now is we incorporate the organization in the US. You know, most likely we call APC world missions and we get that set up. Money is already available. People are in, you know, it's huge amount already there. And then we're going to have a process where, you know, graduating students submit, share their proposals, share their ideas.  But all happened in one week. Where did it start? While during worship, there was this spiritual experience that I had. I went up to the stage and I just said, this is what God wants me to say. I know it sounds strange. And within one week, so much has happened. So just one example and, you know, there are the examples. I mean, one thing that really touched my heart was the previous Sunday, one man came and he was, you know, he was in a very, he was, I think he must have, he must be in his 40s or 50s. And he was in a bad shape, meaning financially didn't have a job, anything.   Okay, so he's just come and I'm just saying this to him. And I said it, not, you know, out of human thing, but I knew the hand of the Lord was on me and I spoke to him. Yesterday, after service, he came back, he said, I he applied for one job. And he went through two rounds of interviews already. He's got one last round of interview, he said, most likely he's going to get selected. And it's going to give him so much money. Like, I don't know what the amount is on, but it's more than he needs more than ever before. And he came and said, I want to say thank you because you told me to do this. I did it. He applied for one job. And this happened. So like for me, that is so special because he was a man who was in such a difficult situation. It wasn't my word or my thought. It was more the anointing of God that I spoke that at that moment. And the good thing was he obeyed. He went and applied for one job. He said, you know, faster told me I'll do it. And within a week, all this has taken place. So that's very special. So that's again, another spiritual experience, you know, it may not be this special for that person. So like that, you know, there's things that happen. Some things are big, some things are small. It touches one individual. Some things touch nations, but it's, it's, it's all everything is all God. Okay. We are way out of time. But I'll, we will let you know, right? Once we get things set up and we'll be ready to go back nations. Okay. Somebody. Okay. Let's just close this session. And we will take a break and we will connect to the next class shortly. Okay. Thank you. God bless. Bye now. Thank you first.


computer just decided to quit on me, but we're back. And yeah, I don't know if you're with me yesterday when I did this version of an ocean, but let me show you what it looked like. It looked like this. And if you were here yesterday, I mentioned that I wasn't all the way excited about how this turned out. I think I want more of these like open clusters, the bigger areas, like these, the splatters, and hey guys, and I'm gonna try to do that on this, a little one and hopefully also the big one. We have enough resin to do both, so we'll see. So let's start by power washing this one. And then we'll breath in that one and see how dry this one is. I hope all of you guys that are in Florida are feeling okay. That storm was bananas, we watched it. Ooh, what did I drop? Bananas, you guys stay safe. Even though the storms may have moved on from where you are, still stay safe. Muscular, I wish I used to have good trunks, but I don't do two days anymore. Without power, then y'all stay safe. So yeah, we're gonna be using Don Power Wash to create this look. I know that some countries don't have Power Wash, but if VAMP was in here, she knows how to make it with a spray bottle. Hopefully she's having a good, doctor's appointment and she can hop in at some point and help out. So I'm going to focus my bigger breaks of Power Wash in these areas because I already have cells for my first layer. I did this ocean wave on live a while back. I can't remember how long ago, but we're gonna add a second layer to it today, hopefully. I'm gonna do this part. We're gonna set it in front of the fan to hopefully dry enough. Now we're gonna do resin on the one we did yesterday. So with the Power Wash, you don't have to spray it. This is apple scent, but I don't think that matters really at all.  So it's not quite so white. It does smell like apples. I think also not waiting so long to spray this, spray paint also helps. Okay, got some coverage. We're using flat white spray paint. Not being like super full coverage as well. So I'm kind of just like light dusting white spray paint, not making it fully opaque. Sweet. All right, I'm gonna take some water over to my trash can, which is right over here. You can see all the spray paint headed towards the window. Make sure you get all the soap to get under resin. How, oh sorry, how fun is that? Yes, yes, yes. It's everything I knew it could be. Super hoping I didn't just drip water in my resin.  So you guys can get a little bit more of a look-see. That looks way better than my first one, yeah? It almost looks like an animal print up there. Anyways, crushed it, love it. Now, before my resin sets up on me, hands blowing really well onto it. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Let's start adding resin to this bad boy that we did yesterday. Any alternative for this stuff? I'm looking for an alternative to my knowledge right now. Power wash is the only thing really that will work like this. That's not to say that there isn't an option, an alternative, I just haven't found it myself personally. So you guys know that my super awesome favorite resin is Stone Coat Art Coat. I'm still waiting on a shipment from them and they're not my favorite for doing oceans anyways. I'm gonna be using Marcy's Art Resin. We have some on our website, artisttilldead.com, along with the colors I'm gonna be using today. I don't have power wash on my website but if some of my international people are interested in power wash, maybe I can see about shipping them. Thank you Julie, thanks, I agree, it's super awesome. Swamper, what's up? I hope you're having an awesome day at work. All right, so let's go ahead and let out this resin because having a bunch of resin in a big bucket is not good for your resin. Is this going to make it set off before, before it's time, so it's neat. You guys have a whole bunch of science stuff. Sondra, how are you doing? I'm so happy to see you here. Right, colors, colors. We're gonna be using two of my go-tos with a third of my go-tos. So I'm gonna be using Bondi for my shallow ocean areas and then Blue Lagoon or Caribbean Blue for my deep ocean areas. And these are tints by Color of Session. I know they're not pretty right now, but I travel with them always and I'll have any reds over here, but that's fine, that's fine. So when I travel to do art, I take these colors and they just get super trashed along the way. So the tints are transparent. They are buildable in color, but they'll never go opaque. So this beautiful translucent blue, if I were to add more color to it, we'll just make it a deeper shade, but we'll always be translucent, transparent. Same goes with the Blue Lagoon and the other tints from Color of Session. So if you like putting like alcoholics and resin, which I don't advise because they will eventually fade. If you like that look, just use some tints in Color of Session. You don't have to get them from me, but you're welcome to.  I'm gonna put a little bit of Apolloni Shell from Resinart in here. Not a lot because this will turn your color opaque. Just snap to give it a little bit of sparkle. You're in the middle of the crazy move, Sandra. It sounds exciting though. Just a little bit of sparkle. Trying Christmas ornaments with gum arabic, not going well, thankfully, I'm using cheap plastic now. Little bit, bit. There's our heart. Cheap plastic ones for practice. I have to watch the video again. So a big thing about that is make sure you get as much of your polycrylic or whatever clear binding medium it is that you're using. Make sure you get it as much of it drained out as possible. And that will help your gum arabic and micas to stick to the walls of your ornament. Because if you don't get enough of it out, it'll kind of slump. Let's do that in my slumpa. So glad you guys are here today. Thank you so much for tuning in, especially those of you dealing with super crazy weather and no power and everything because of hurricane. All right, so I'm using titanium white from Just Resin. Super opaque white, love it, love it. Can't say enough good things about it. And I have a couple left in stock actually. So for my second wave, I always come back about an inch or an inch and a half. And I don't follow the same wave pattern as the first one. So I wouldn't come directly behind this one all the way because that's not natural. So I'm gonna essentially come opposite. I'm gonna come down this way. On this part, I'm gonna come out and down for sure. Yeah, drain it as long as you can without it draining out. 24 or 24 may have led that I wanna do something on. What do I need to do to prep it? Let it go or two left from your paint. I'm gonna have to prep it, I need to do something else. Melissa, has it been primed with anything or is it absolutely raw wood with no sealants on it or oils? Is it fully dry tree or is it kind of green still? So I'm gonna take some of my clear and I'm gonna do exactly what I just said. So I'm gonna have the wave come here. Actually, I'm not gonna do that because I'm not sure how I wanna do this wave. So I know the part that I want will look like this. So I'm gonna fill in everything around that, which is why I use clear for my ocean wave layout so that I can change things if I need to. All right, can't really see that right now but you'll see it in a second. Do you prefer titanium white or top cell white? Honestly, they're fairly interchangeable but if I had to choose between the two, I would go titanium. You'll be in NYC in about two over 10 days order stuff from me or where you're shipping times like so I can bring stuff with me. Jessica, if I have it in stock, I ship same day as long as I order them by noon and to get to New York, probably take three days tops. Where I would came from home before I was. Okay, so you would need to prep it for sure. I would put a couple of coats of paints on it and like an interior house paint. If you wanna be extra, if it's gonna be functional, use Primer from XIM and it comes in a couple different colors, so white is an option and then a couple layers of white paint. Either paint front and back or put something on the back like a polycrylic, because sorry, if you don't, wood is really porous and air will come in from the underside and give you air bubbles that you'll have to sand out later, so keep that in mind and either paint both sides or seal the back with something. Polycrylic or paint. Okay, so you guys probably couldn't see it at the time that I did it, but I didn't bring my second wave really close to my first one that is an inch back because resin will creep up and relax and move and if your second wave breaks over your first one, it does not look cute. It actually is, it's kind of like a mushroom cloud. Once it breaks that surface tension, so try to keep it, back set a little bit on your second wave. A lot of resin on this back part, so I'm just gonna pick up a little bit and put it back in my cup for the longer piece we're gonna do. So, do, do, do. Where's my this? What's that, pee-pee? All right, now I'm gonna take my titanium white resin net and I'm going to lay it where the dry canvas is and my clear it is. I want it to touch both and not be any thicker than a pinky for this side piece. So it looks like I may have gone over in some areas, but that will be fine. Mix Media Girls resin is about half the working time as stone coat, so I'm gonna try to pick up the pace a little bit here in a second because I don't want this resin to set up on me before I get to the second piece. Right, heat gun, not plugged in. Up, of course not, why would it be plugged in? So I'm gonna use my heat gun. This is a red amtic heat gun, you can find it on Amazon, I've got it linked down in the description box at my Amazon shop and this is my Groom Cake attachment, it's a concentrator nozzle. It fits any heat gun because it's got these little sluts on the side so you can make it bigger or smaller to fit any heat gun. I'm gonna use high hair, high heat. I'm gonna go ahead and pre-pop some bubbles just to make sure I don't have anything floating in my resin. I'm gonna tilt my piece just a little bit, pre-heat a third of it and push that resin down in T-tiny circles. The T-tiny circles with the concentrator nozzle just gives that ripply crashing wave look. And I'm not pushing all of the wave all the way down before I move on to my next section because it's still going to move and stretch and tilt and then fall to the back of the piece while I'm doing the other areas. From y'all's view, it actually looks like a wave rolling out and that makes my heart very happy as a mermaid. That makes me smile. Gotta break up those waves back there a little bit and then we'll be done with this one. Just a smidge somehow because I like my waves to have a really grumpy start to them. I'm just gonna trail a line along where my wave, bam. Wipe my hands off and I'll give you guys a close up. If you wanted to, you could take this to the next step and do another layer of waves. I probably wouldn't do another layer of base painting though just because that would be unnecessary. Hi from the 242, what's up Desmond? What's up, Mike Reed? How you doing? So yeah, that's how this ocean looks right now with that awesome underpainting from the power wash. And I'm gonna set you guys back in the tripod. Take this piece to the desk free zone and then we'll do that big ocean piece. Just gotta make sure I'm not gonna drip all over my hardwood. Cool. All right, we're back. Love resin. Cheese and crackers, things are sticking in. Ooh, we're dry. Okay. Now here's the other one that we did today and I think this is gonna yield a better look under our ocean wave. Angela, have an awesome day. Okay, let's mix up a little bit more. Fun guy. Our resin is starting to get a little bit warm since I mixed it right before we went live. I'm gonna try to get this out as soon as possible. So I did not edge up this wave when I originally did the piece. So there's a little bit of not perfection. So we're gonna come back again to a little far out. In fact, we may actually come up closer over here. So the reason why I do the clear first on top of not wanting to have any mistakes and have to wipe off the clear and it possibly staining is that it separates my beautiful white wave from the blues so that my wave doesn't turn pastel blue instead. I think on the back end of this one, I'm gonna drop a couple more drops of Caribbean to make a slightly deeper shade. Let's get going. Hairboop, when you use house-based coat, can you use acrylic paint? To paint the boards white or whatever other colors you want, you can use acrylic house paint. Just try to make sure you let them off gas, whatever paint you use to help prevent any yellowing. But yeah, you can use just acrylic paint. Really, you can use any water-based paint is make sure it dries before you add your resin. And I'm just gonna drop it directly into our big bucket. Can't neglect a little bit of sparkle from Abalone. I love doing ocean floors. Maybe it's because I'm a mermaid. Maybe it's just because ocean floors are awesome. In any case, love them. Should we have any dry spots? Because that will impede our wave. I taught Oceans at my last class in Seguin. We'll be starting up our class schedule again soon. I think I'm gonna have another one in December. Probably in Dallas, though. You guys are interested. I'm also doing resin demos at an acrylic Fluid Art Convention in November. Beautiful. I don't know about you guys, but I love the feeling of touching resin through gloves. I can't be the only one. If I am, let me know. It's fine, but also I'm not the only one. Okay, so with the white, we're gonna do just like before. Here, so it's coming out a little bit squiggly. Just fine, because I had every ocean wave just created the same and sometimes they're squiggly. I just wanna make sure there's no clear resin that's in front of my wave. And that happens, your resin's just gonna kind of glide over itself. It's not gonna grab onto the board and stretch like we're trying to do it to do. So making sure that it's touching both your board and the resin is key. In fact, I think we're gonna do like a seven-year wave, because why not? Just see how it looks. I'm gonna kind of zoom you guys in to the next bit. See exactly what I'm doing. No. Where's my pops and bubbles? That's a 10. You're tardy, but you have a note. Is it notarized note? I'm moving forward to a possible question on LA area. Steve, I am actually talking to Marcy about doing a class near LA in her name, CEO in January. We're gonna have a slight little bit of a tilt. And since everything's going that way instead of just that, I'm gonna have to kind of teeter it between the two different ways that I have this going. Let's start up here at the top. It's a little bit too much white up here, so I'm trying to break it up. It's a more difficult way to tilt, because you have to kind of teeter back and forth, but once you get the general feel of how it's supposed to go, this part's not that good. Everybody from my last class got it. No problem. And their pieces look phenomenal. I'm gonna get this resin off my thigh and I will give you guys a close up of what we just kind of learned from our work right now because we have a show in Dallas opening on the 18th of October. So we have to fill a whole gallery with our work. Okay, so right here, see where that white doesn't meet up? That's because I somehow didn't get that white in front of the clear. And so it just kind of glided on top of the resin instead of stretching down like everything else. For the white, I'm using titanium white by Just Resin. You can get it from my shop, artisttilldeck.com. I have it in stock in this moment as of recording. So if you're watching late and I'm out already, then you should have been on time. What fun, beautiful, stretched cells those are. And I don't know if you guys have noticed but what we did for the underpainting kind of faded into the background a lot. So if you want those to be more evident like in the last one we did, then use a little bit more spray paint when you're spraying over the power wash like we did in the beginning. You can kind of see that little bit of a leopard print under this area where it was a little bit more opaque. So I'm learning along with you guys the best way to do this kind of artwork. You can see some of those power wash cells right there and in the background here, right here. Loving this piece, love it. And it looks fun right here on the outside of our resin. So because we had to thin this out a lot because there was so much white that I put up here. I had to hit it with a little bit more heat so that's why those cells are thinner. Whereas down here where I use less heat and just let the heat that I did apply and the tilt stretch the cells that's why these are a bigger cell structure down here as opposed to up here. It's just really thin resin right now. Oh, you can see the depth from back here as well. So it looks kind of like an overhead shot of an actual beach that has like some coral under it. I'm gonna try that technique with like some coppers and browns and things that you would usually see in terms of coral. I'm gonna really explore this for sure. Hey, all looks cool. You can get the power, can you get the power wash in Canada? I have no idea of Rumpel but I'm going to be looking it up. And if I have to start stocking power wash to ship international, I will. So yeah, that's what our wave looks like. Thank you guys so much for hopping on and seeing what we're doing today. I'm gonna take some coasters and smoosh them into these bad boys. So I'm not wasting any resin. And I hope you all have an awesome day. Jeff and I have movie night tonight and I hope all you guys in Florida are staying safe. Beebe says I think you can get something similar, Rumpel. Anyways, I hope you guys give it a shot. If you do, post it in ATDs, pour people so we can see if you want these colors, you can get them from my shop, artiststilldebt.com that is Abalone Shell from Resinart. It's a blingot, titanium white from just resin. It's a paste. Bondi blue from Color Obsession. Blue Lagoon or Caribbean from Color Obsession. Those are tense, they're transparent so that it actually looks super-depthy. You can see through it to all the layers you create. And it looks like water to me anyways. As a mermaid, that's my opinion. So yeah, I hope you guys have an amazing day. Hey Valerie, could you do a little less color additive on the top wave and let the bottom color come through? Absolutely, Steve. The top was already a little bit faint in color so I wanted to add a lot of depth in this one with the darker colors. But for sure, if you want to see a little bit more, I would use just a drop of the Bondi and none of the Blue Lagoon or Caribbean. These are some pieces that are going in to the art show just working on. And of course, some of my alcohol inks still working on. Well, I really appreciate you guys coming in and seeing what we're up to today. Hope you have an awesome rest of your day. We'll see you guys again tomorrow for a live. Be kind to one another because you never know what someone's going through. And always remember, we do the test so Bowie doesn't have to and also everybody else. Hi, baby. Did you say hi to everybody? Did you say hi to everybody? My precious boy. All right, you guys, please subscribe. Leave me your thumbs and we'll see you guys tomorrow. Bye.


Tired of the everyday routine? Ever dream of a life of romantic adventure? Want to get away from it all? We offer you... Escape! Escape, designed to free you from the four walls of today for a half hour of high adventure. Tonight we escape to a small ship off the coast of Borneo and an exciting tale of murderous greed as Freud A. Nelson tells it in his strange story, Seeds of Greed. This is it. The Romantic South Pacific. The languid lure of the tropics. A ship at my command to take me any place I might choose. A jewel tiara of sky above and an ocean of emerald velvet below. To my left, the languid coast of Borneo. To my right, the Sulu archipelago. Such romance. Such gentleness. Such maddening, unbearable gentleness. Not long ago, I was a carefree little monument to failure, reaping the rewards of my college education and the atmosphere a hitch in the navy had taught me to love and live. The waterfront. Maybe it's the atmosphere. Maybe it's the people you meet. Or maybe it's the margin you can make on the exchange of drinks with guys in port fat with sepae. Take this guy, Lee, for instance.  I had him figured wrong from the beginning. Mr. Braun? Mr. Kenneth Braun? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. My name is Lee. Lee Tse Tung, if you prefer. I don't. May I join you? Sure, sure, Lee. Pull up a buck for a couple of drinks and sit down. Certainly. Here. Al, same thing here. Okay. What's yours, Lee? Nothing, thank you. I do not indulge. Okay. Thanks, Al. Sure thing. Well, Lee, I've got the bait. Set your hook. What's on your mind? You have pointed out to me as a man who knows boats. Just like the navy. And also as a man who might be induced to gamble. Well, I can't contradict. But if you'll pardon me, as a man who is more than casually devoted to drink. I can take it or leave it. At the moment, my mood says take it. You're health, Lee. Yes. But for that one failing, Mr. Braun, I could offer very interesting and profitable proposal. Mr. Lee, it is considered very poor taste in the accident to profit drinks with strings attached. Good days. One moment, please. Forgive me. I was going to add a failing which we could overlook if it were to be controlled for a short time. I said I could take it or leave it. I am in the pearl business. Do you know anything about pearls, Braun? Yeah. An oyster gets a hold of a bad grain of sand. And he or she or it gets an ulcer. Bingo, a pearl. Perhaps we should take this up at another time. I am stopping at the Case Hotel. Good night, Braun. And come see me if you should reconsider. Okay, Lee. But don't wait up. I hate the warm feeling of elegance that takes me over after the fifth drink. I hate myself.   Out of the fog of remorse came a stolid little Oriental face. Yeah. Yeah, there's a generous soul. Pearls, he said. Well, that should be a nice substantial little proposition. Yeah. Maybe I am ready to talk business. Braun, I did not expect to see you. Come in. This is a pleasant surprise. Yeah. You mentioned something about a business proposal. Yes, I did. Hotel rooms depress me, Lee. Could we go down to the bar and talk it over? Oh, certainly, Braun. If you prefer. I prefer. You mentioned something about the pearl business. Yes, Braun. I didn't think. That is, I thought that might have slipped your mind. Well, things aren't that badly. Tell me more. Oh, we could be very useful to each other, Braun. I have the information and the equipment. You have the experience without which the equipment is useless to me. Yeah. We can turn an enormous profit in very short time. Uh-huh. I have just completed a transaction whereby I become owner of small ship equipped with certain scientific devices for probing the ocean floor. Sonar equipment. I believe that is the name.  It'll never work. That is not my intention. Well, then how does Sonar equipment fit into the pearl business? These pearls, the great fortune in pearls, are all in one package. Ours for the taking. Salvage? Yes. I fell heir to Chartres upon the timely death of a friend. And that Chartres indicated the position of a vessel sunk during the war somewhere between the Sulu archipelago and the northeast coast of Bonio. Yeah. I have reason to know that on board at the time of the sinking was the personal fortune of a certain Sultan as well as the assets of his constituents. There was one survivor. And you hope to locate that vessel with this sounding gear? I do. Well, what about getting the stuff up after it's located? I also have diving equipment. And you want somebody who knows how to operate the gear? Precisely. What's your deal? I am prepared to offer you one fourth of any treasure we may locate. For that consideration, I could offer about one half of what I know about your equipment. I don't understand. For a 50-50 share of an elute, I could offer 100% cooperation. Oh, I see. Brown, you should. It surprises me you are not more prosperous. All right. 50-50, as you say. All right. You've got yourself a boy. To you, partner. Now one for the road, and we'll go look at your ship. OK, partner? OK, partner. Lee's stubby forefinger pointed a great circle course across the harbor to a little tub playing with her forward quarter scraping paint against the can of her mooring. She was from the orphan fleet of subchasers pressed into service out of desperation during the war. About 100 feet built to roll in a 20-foot beam. Some dreamer had her rigged for fishing. She still mounted an A-frame, outriggers, and a cargo boom at. Lee didn't speak of her with the pride of an owner. There it is, the one with the blunt end toward us. When can we go aboard? I have the papers. We can take possession immediately. What kind of shape is the power plant in? I'm really not qualified to say. I know nothing of ships, but I am sure she will need work before we... What is it you say, cast out? Yeah. I'll give me two days to work over the plant and I'll have her ship shape and shaken down. If she's standard, she's got two 6, 7 ones on the generators and two pancakes on the main plant. A couple of spare injectors and some bailing wire will see her to Timbuktu. You will need a crew, won't you? An inexpensive crew. Yeah, a couple of hands to do the dirty work. We could get by with one if you could take a turn at the wheel. Perhaps I can learn. Yes, perhaps I can learn to drive the ship. Good. I'll line up a hand.  You seem to understand what I want, Braun. I will leave everything to you. You may reach me at my hotel. Okay. The next time you see her, she will be overhauled, provisioned and manned. So long, Lee. See you in 48 hours. She was in surprisingly good shape. The batteries charged right up on the generators. Her oil was clean and her linkage tight. I replaced a corroded condenser on the sonar gear. Pressure checked the diving suit and put new pistons in the compressors. One straight 24-hour shift and she was shaken down and ready for a crew. I set out to meet my man on common ground. I found him being escorted out of Casey's bar by Casey himself. You young hoodlums are a disgrace to the sea. You'd better get some salt before you start something in my place. Let go. Now get along with him.  You brother of a pig! Oh, what's the matter, sailor? Slippery deck? You'll be quieter. I stick you. All right. Stow the ship, kid. The jails are too full now.  Get out of my way. All right.  And stow the knife.  You're, uh, you're new around here, aren't you? How'd you know that? Well, you wouldn't tangle with Casey if you weren't. Where are you from? It's another. I have papers in my room. I have papers. I didn't ask you. You didn't ask me either. But I'd advise you to get rid of that knife.  So far this knife knows only the blood of fish. I have never been kicked by a fish. I can use a man who can handle a knife. You working? No. Come on. I'll buy you a drink. All right. Now, what's your name? Costa. The new Guillermo de la Costa. Okay, Tony. Two double shots later, I had my man.  I set him to stowing provisions while I cleared the paper and gold braid department of the commerce building and picked up a couple hundred fathoms of useless to flake out for effect. Then I called Lee. He was impressed. You have accomplished a lot in very short time, Brown. You must have worked day and night. Yeah, I can sleep under way. Where is your crew? Below. He's stowing provisions in the galley. I see. Does he meet our specification? Exactly. Good back with not too much above it. Except a nasty temper. Good. You think he's going fishing? Let's explain these nets. Partly, Lee. Also, there's an unwritten law of the sea that gives fishing craft a wide berth. Clever, Brown. Very clever. Practical. Is everything in first-class condition? Everything. The diving gear is tight, and the sonar readings check right on the nose of the charts. Then we are ready to cast off. Any time. Then let us go. Header out west, southwest, Brown. Right into the sun. Right into the sun. In just a moment, we will continue with Escape. But first, Groucho Marx, Bing Crosby, Dr. Christian and George Burns and Gracie Allen will be back with you tomorrow night on most of these same CBS stations. Al Jolson will join Bing in another of their unparalleled exhibits of wit and song. George Jessel will be the special guest of George and Gracie. Stay tuned to CBS for this wonderful midweek Wednesday night listening. And now we return you to the second act of Escape. Three weeks at sea taught me a lot about my friend Lee. His switch from landlubber to competent mariner was too fast to be convincing. Something about the whole setup spoiled the taste of my whiskey. The only way it figured was that he really did need me to operate the gear. Beyond that, beyond that the picture changed. From the first day out, he showed too much interest in the sonar equipment. Brown, I think it might be prudent if you were to teach me the operation of this instrument. Is it very difficult, just the operation? Oh, it's something anyone can pick up in five or six months of full-time instruction. Surely not to learn just the operation of it. Well, it's not only complicated, Lee, but delicate. I think we'd be wise to keep it secured until we need it. Perhaps. Yes, perhaps. It won't be very long, Brown. When are you going to break out the charts with the position of the stuff? In due time, Brown. Well, I'll need it when we start taking soundings. Then you shall have it. It wouldn't be prudent to surrender a chart that I have been forced to defend with my very life. Would it, Brown? I get your point. I might add, Brown, that the chart alone is useless to anyone but me. The exact position is not indicated. I took the precaution of committing it to memory, lest the chart should be misplaced. The only value of the chart is that it indicates sounding lines. That makes your position clear enough. What about Costa? Do you think he might be dangerous when he finds out what we're really after? For a man to be dangerous, he must first be intelligent. Costa is ignorant.  Sooner or later, he's going to get wise. Fortunately, Costa is not equipped to get wise, as you say. He is happy in ignorance. We will not expose him to the curse of greed. What's your plan? To turn the wheel of fortune to my own needs. We must be practical, Brown.  He will never be missed if he were to... disappear. Faith will save him from the curse of greed. The late afternoon of the 22nd day, I saw Lee's methods put into practice. Cold, efficient, ruthless practice. It happened so fast I was helpless to do anything about it. Costa was splayed out on the nets near the stern sound of sleep when Lee appeared from nowhere. Without warning, Lee let fly a vicious kick. Costa's blade flashed. Lee stood motionless until Costa closed. Then Lee grabbed Costa's knife hand world twisting Costa's arm into a lever and using the momentum of his rush tossed him effortlessly over the rail to disappear in the swirling wake. Without even glancing a stern, Lee gave me the arm signal for straight ahead. A signal that pointed accusingly at me screaming accomplice. His face was still frozen in trance-like serenity when he appeared on the bridge. It is now you and I, Brown. Yeah. These things are distasteful, but on the other hand, they're distasteful. Oh, wasn't there some other way to handle it? Couldn't we have put him off somewhere in the islands? Your whole life in too high a steam, Brown. We could have put him off at some island, but then, Brown, we would have had to wonder about his welfare. Now his troubles are over. He has peace. He no longer has to struggle as you and I. He didn't have much chance to struggle, did he, Lee? He was not one to struggle intelligently, Brown. Struggling, not directed by intelligence, can destroy. Where does strength muscle fit into your theory? If you will pardon a personal reference, Brown, I long ago subscribed to the teachings of an eastern cult, which believes that the intellectual neutralizes the physical. Therefore, there is no difference in statua among men. Only a difference in mental power. We do not destroy. We merely expedite the adversary's self-destruction by his own weakness. Cost is temper, huh? Exactly. One does not think in temper. He merely acts and so destroys himself. Do I make myself clear? Not especially, but I'll think it over. Lee's insidious philosophy began to prey on my mind. I knew I was on the last leg of a one-way trip. I knew he was perfectly competent to take over the ship at any time, but I still felt reasonably safe. It would take two men to handle the instruments to locate the pearls, and beyond that, two men to get the stuff up. After that, I would worry about my failings and which one Lee would pick to destroy me. I eliminated the big one by tossing my last two bottles of whiskey overboard. Somewhere between the lower Sulu archipelago and the northeast corner of Borneo, when Lee broke out a dog-eared chart of Dutch origin. Cut it back, Braun. Now, somewhere within the radius of this circle, how fortune waits to be taken. Now, let's see. The charts indicate a sandy bottom, and that's good. The currents go southwest. It falls off the deeper water to the south. I understand the charts, Braun. Start the soundings, man. Okay, I'll start here. Let the 60-fathom line and work toward shallower water. You stand at the bar with a smoke flare. If I pick up anything, heave a flare over to market, okay? I prefer to stay on the bridge with you, Braun. Yeah, that way we can watch the instruments and each other. Okay, partner. I worked each depth line half a mile from the point Lee established as center, staying parallel to the soundings indicated on the chart.  Then I took a new tack. I set the wheel in a tight circle and secured it with a lanyard. I figured the current and the torque of the shaft would take us far enough off-center on each spiral that we wouldn't miss anything big enough to register. I was beginning to think in circles when the scope showed a fast drop and then wavered erratically. Lee must have read it in my face. It showed something, didn't it? We have found something, haven't we, Braun? Maybe. What are you going to do? Back it down and check it. Oh, no. No. Drop the anchor. We won't move. We'll take no chances of losing it. Drop the anchor.  Lee expertly rigged the line from the cargo boom to the cat head and hoisted the heavy diving gear out of the after-hold. His expression left no question as to the division of labor. Of course, you will make the dive, Braun. Yeah. We cannot risk losing a life when too many are necessary to complete this mission, can we? Not your life, Lee. Yeah. Yeah, I'll go down there. But just in case you have any ideas about letting my weaknesses destroy me. Oh, come now, Braun. You're not falling prey to the curse of greed, are you? No. And I don't intend to fall prey to anything if I can help. You don't have faith in me. That's right. But you must have faith in me. We must work together. Until we locate the stuff and get it up. After that, Lee, only one man is necessary. That's what worries me. Are you afraid, Braun? Does fear number among your weaknesses? Yeah, Lee. It does. I don't know how to reassure you, Braun. Do you have a solution? Yeah, Lee. I do. My life is in your hands while I'm down there. Unfortunately for you, my life is the only link you have between the pearls and this ship. Only a fool would break that link, Braun. Lee's words echoed in my helmet as I felt myself being lowered from a sheave at the end of the cargo boom.  I knew that I was pitted against a ruthless maniac. That finding the pearls meant that one of us would die. Yet some power greater than reason forced me on. A power I recognized as greed. My weighted feet settled on bottom. My headlights sent a glaring shaft through the mercs serving only to blind me. Then my eyes adapted. Strange shapes darted in and out of the beam, splashing big shadows. I pivoted slowly, straining my eyes to the burning point. Suddenly the beam stopped short and reflected upward in a blinding glare. There she lay, a slimy hulk stern down in the sand. Her stack and superstructure eroded away and her plates hanging scab-like from her frames. A death ship washed clean by gentle currents. I headed for the quarter-deck and leaned on the crumbling vestiges of the hatch. It fell away. My light picked up a single object. There it lay, its corners worn round from shifting against the bulkheads. A teakwood chest.  I felt a wave of desire grow into a surge of greed and resolve itself into an overpowering lust. I bent a line onto the chest and signal Lee to haul me up. I felt as though I was threading my life away as I paid out the line that would link the treasure with the surface, knowing that only Lee's ignorance of what the other end held ensured my shedding the heavy diving suit safe on deck. That would put us on even footing. I lost the fear of Lee's methods and thought of my own. Methods based on greed that knows no compromise. Methods of killing to keep. Then my fears passed. He couldn't kill me until the chest was on deck. Lee was like a man waiting for sentence when I climbed out of the diving suit. Well, it's there. Describe it. Describe the chest. Solid wood bound in brass. Is that all? Brass hinges like a hand. That is it, Brown. The hand of Mohammed. My reward at last. The hand of Mohammed. You mean our reward. Of course. Our reward. For a brief second we were two animals standing at bay, eye to eye appraising, each waiting for the other to move. Then as one we saw through the cloud of greed. We still needed each other until a chest was on deck. Lee swung the boomion board while I read the line attached to the chest through the eye of the sheath. He took the running end of the cat head and made a turn. His narrowed eyes fixed on me waiting for the signal to haul away. His hands turned white, bloodless as he gripped the line. I gave him the signal to haul in the line. Start it easy, Lee, and take it slow all the way. We'll stop it at the surface to keep the weight off the line. The line threaded through the sheath endlessly as time while I strained to catch the first glimpse of any bulk in the water. Again I felt the surge of greed I'd experienced below. Unconsciously I drew my sleeve across my mouth. A dark and distorted mass showed beneath the surface. Slow it down, Lee. Easy, show it. Slow it down, Lee. Slack off. You'll break your line. Slack off. He was out of control. The heavy chest lost the buoyancy of the water. The strand of the line snapped and shot a ragged end up to the block. But it was too late. The chest hit the block and the line snapped, crashing the waterlogged wood against the ragged middle of the topside.  Oh, you fool! You American fool! There they are, Lee. Look at them float down.   You felt the pearls at the end of that line, Lee. They were in your greedy little hands and you couldn't let go. You couldn't slack off on the line, you couldn't let go, could you? So the hand of Mohammed sowed the ocean with little seeds of greed. You will pay for your life. All right, intelligent one. There are no odds. Pick a weakness and destroy me. Take your choice. Come on. You will die, dog. He came toward me slowly. Then he drew back, right foot poised. I was ready for it. But instead of the kick, his thumb shot out at my eyes, pushing jagged nerve ends right into my brain. Blind instinct told me to swing while I knew where he was.  Not yet, Lee. How do you like that, Lee? Ducked by a blind right fist. And this? This? How do you like this, Lee? How do you like my thumbs? How do you like a mashing in your master's throat? Are you getting weaker, Lee? Weaker? Oh, where's your metal power now, Lee? Go on. Is it dead? The tropical Pacific. Gentle Pacific rocking me to death in a cradle of rusty steel. Maybe it's spring or summer or day or night. A breeze is gentle. Sent to soothe. And my eyes no longer pain. Yeah, it's gentle. Such gentleness. Such maddening, unbearable gentleness. Escape is produced and directed by William N. Robeson. Tonight we have presented Seeds of Greed by Freud A. Nelson. Featured in the cast were Gary Merrill as Brown, Ben Wright as Lee, Bill Conrad as Casey, and Tony Barrett as Costa. Special music was arranged and conducted by Del Castillo. Next week. You are sitting unarmed in an early California boom town saloon. Across the table from you is a man who has just murdered your brother and who holds in his hand a new and terrible weapon from which there is no escape. Next week we escape with an exciting tale of the California gold camps as Les Crutchfield tells it in his gripping story, The Pistol. Goodbye then until this same time next week when once again we offer you escape. Groucho Marx and who will quarrel when you label him a very funny fellow will be back on most of these same CBS stations tomorrow night with his deliriously wonderful quiz show, You Bet Your Life. You'll find Grouchos unlike any other quiz you ever heard. So join us on CBS tomorrow night for You Bet Your Life starring Groucho Marx. Now stay tuned for Hit the Jackpot which follows immediately over most of these same CBS stations. This is CBS, the Columbia Broadcasting System.


My name is Anna Edwards. I live in Kent, in England. We live in a pretty rural, rural spot so very much enjoy the outdoors and lovely walks in the countryside and in the woods. We're actually not too far from the sea either so we get to take advantage of some coastal walks as well. And I'm currently working for NHS England, heading up our National Staff Intention Programme.  When I was first diagnosed I was told it would be a mild inconvenience for me. And since then, so over the last 25 years, I've had multiple major surgeries and then all the complications that go with that. But about six years ago now, my husband and I decided that we would like to try for a family. We went to the consultant and was told that we were eligible to try IVF and so fertility treatment. Which was really exciting and actually a wonderful piece of news because I just didn't think it would ever be a possibility.  And I was told that it was fine and, you know, it wouldn't be a problem. However, a few days into the treatment, because of all the surgery I'd had, I had a significant amount of scar tissue in my pelvis. And what that meant was that things couldn't move around as you would expect. I contacted the hospital. I'm about an hour, an hour and a quarter away from the hospital. I contacted them to say I was in a significant amount of pain and I was told to stay at home and it was probably just something called a variant heart stimulation syndrome. And I said, I know my body. I've been doing serious illness for 20 years. This doesn't feel right. And I'm the last person to want to go into hospital. I've done many years of being in hospital. But right now this is pretty frightening, the amount of pain I'm in. But yeah, they still told me to stay at home and I'm afraid it was my patient's prerogative and decided to travel up to the hospital despite that advice. And I'm glad I did because the urologist at the hospital came in and said to me, we can't get your kidneys to work and I'm not sure you're going to make it through the night. It was about one o'clock in the morning by time they knew what treatment that I needed. But the intervention of radiologists didn't want to do that too in the morning on a Sunday night. But the urologist who was caring for me has told me since that he had to threaten that individual with his job if he didn't come in because he knew I wouldn't survive the night. That individual did come in, they did the procedure, which I was awake for. So at this stage there had been a medical error in terms of the amount of drugs I'd had and the lack of care I'd had given my medical history. The lack of appreciation for the fact that my pelvis would have an awful lot of scar tissue in it and would perhaps not act in the same way as others. But also a near miss because of the decision that the urologist was attempting to make which could have cost me my life. It was incredibly frightening and there was an awful lot of absolutely fantastic care that evening. But sadly during the episode from beginning to end some of the care let me down. I'm pleased to say that I woke up the next morning. I'm very well now. Following that incident we did have an awful lot of embryos but sadly maybe fortunately the IVF round didn't work. I was able to do another round with my best friend, Surrogate, and she did fall pregnant but sadly miscarried. And we then adopted and we have the most wonderful little boy who we adopted when he was nine months old and he is now as I say five and he is the greatest miracle for us. So in many ways you know you go through these journeys and the right thing happens in the end. Whatever that is it happens and he is very much the right thing for us. He is an absolute superstar and you know brings joy to my life and my husband's life every day. I think and I'd like to think that lessons have been learned. I was told many many times after that incident that it was a one in a million situation. And I don't doubt that but I won't be the only woman in her 30s going for IVF who's had a lot of pelvic surgery. Listen to your patients. They absolutely know when does something doesn't feel right. I think there is a need for humility as a healthcare professional. I think it's important to sometimes accept. We have to always accept that patients are partners in their care and they should be respected and heard in every exchange because they're gold dust and if they're ignored all that's happening is we're missing opportunities. Missing opportunities to save lives and missing opportunities to make care the best it can be.


Welcome to Microterrorz. Scary stories for kids. Where it's always the spooky season. Full of chills. Thrills. And spine-tingling spooks. Microterrorz are family-friendly frights for those ages 8 and up. And while our stories are for younger years, we are still talking about things that go bump in the night. And some children may not be able to handle what others can. Parental consent is recommended. Now for tonight's Microterrorz. Bump in the night. The whole thing started out as a revenge prank on Christopher Carver. But it wasn't the kind of prank you'd normally see. Something set it apart from the others. Instead of a kid who was seen by most as puny and fragile, nerdy and shy, Christopher Carver was on the opposite side of the spectrum.  It was refreshing to see the Intimidator become the Intimidated for once. Although his already aggressive nature was bound to come back into play eventually. I knew that, and I'm sure the other kids knew that too. They were able to tease and trick Christopher Carver into meeting the It girl, Amelia Adams at the Grace Hollow pumpkin patch. Amelia left a note on Christopher's locker telling him to meet her after hours at 10 p.m. sharp at the center of the corn maze attraction. Christopher, as ignorant and cocky as he was, wasn't going to pass up the opportunity to get some loon time with Amelia. The fact that she wanted to meet in the corn maze after the pumpkin patch was closed didn't even strike him as odd. That night, Christopher snuck out of his house a little after nine, clad in black clothing to blend in with the night and not get caught, and walked the two or three miles to the Grace Hollow pumpkin patch. Slipping through the gates, he made his way to the corn maze and with the help of his flashlight began to journey through it. After getting turned around and lost a couple of times, he finally made it to the center of the maze. But all he saw was a wooden post standing straight up from a small patch of recently disturbed dirt. Amelia wasn't there. And as it turned out, Amelia was never even supposed to be there. It was the band of kids, two boys and two girls that Christopher Carver picked on and teased on a daily basis. It was them who drew Carver out into the middle of the cold dark corn maze.  Carver called out into the night for help for Amelia, but the four kids had all scurried away and left Carver hanging in the middle of the corn maze paying for his wrongdoings. The next morning, when Carver never showed up for school, one of the four kids responsible for the prank, Martin, grew a guilty conscience. She reported what she and the others had done, and soon after police were sent to the Grace Hollow pumpkin patch. But when the corn maze was searched, Christopher Carver was nowhere to be found. He'd completely disappeared. And it was the general consensus that embarrassed by what had happened to him, he ran away from the sleepy town of Grace Hollow forever. It's now been 10 years to the day since that cold and dark autumn night when Christopher Carver disappeared. The town of Grace Hollow, as much as they have tried to move on, is still haunted by the mysterious disappearance. The pumpkin patch has become a staple in the community during the fall months, attracting residents of Grace Hollow to come and enjoy all sorts of fall-themed family fun. Mia Martin, now almost graduated from college, works at the farm where the pumpkin patch is. She has had a hard time forgiving herself for what she and the three others had done. So as a form of self-punishment, she chose to work at the farm, forcing herself to remember every single day what she had done 10 years ago. The other three kids, all of whom are still in college, chose to come to the Grace Hollow pumpkin patch on this particular night to silently own up and face their responsibility for Carver's tragic disappearance. In the 10 years that passed, there hasn't been a single sign of Carver. Some people thought spirits on the land claimed him. Some thought he may have left the country. There was one theory about how he may have gotten plastic surgery and was now hiding in plain sight around town, watching everyone. The truth was, no one really knew what happened to him. When the Grace Hollow pumpkin patch closed for the night, Mia asked the others to stay behind with her before she closed the gates. Lucas Lockhart, Henry Horn, and Naomi Nettles all stayed behind and joined Mia at the center of the corn maze to silently accept what they had done in an attempt to move on with their lives. The autumn moon grew big and bright in the chilly night sky, and the dead stalks of corn around them rustled. Then the air fell still and then a nerving sense of dread crept in, filling all four of them with a stinging fear, a haunting whisper from the cornfield hissed. Amelia. Suddenly, without warning, the stalks parted and a figure clad in black clothing exploded out from behind them.  In his hands was an old farmer's scythe that he swung wildly at the group. Carver was back. He swung his scythe at them, releasing ten years of pent-up rage. He connected with Lucas Lockhart first, painting everything around them a dripping crimson color. The three other teens screamed loudly and scattered from the center of the maze.  Carver disappeared back into the cornfield, emerging moments later near an old barn where Naomi Nettles had taken refuge. But she couldn't keep her panicked breaths quiet enough. Carver crashed through the barn door and swung his scythe until Naomi was gone. I gasped at the mutilation and turned my head, but I couldn't escape Carver's wrath either. I was certain he was coming for me next. I closed my eyes hoping somehow that would shield me from his impending attack. And for a moment, it worked. He spotted Henry Horn next, trying to run for the gates of the farm. If he could just get to the main road, he could attempt to wave down any passing cars. But just as he reached the gates, he was grabbed by the scruff of his neck.  Mia ran as fast as she could for her car. She fumbled the keys from her pocket, climbed in and failed repeatedly to connect them with the ignition. When she finally did, the car refused to start. No! I exhaled, feeling defeated along with her. If she couldn't make it, how was I supposed to feel safe? Mia screamed at the car and finally it turned over. The engine roared and she threw it into drive, but before she could hit the gas pedal, two red eyes ignited in the back seat. Mia screamed, noticing them in her rear view mirror. And that's all I could take. I jumped up and ran as fast as I could. Praying Carver wasn't right on my tail. Praying Mia was okay. I ran to my room, jumped in bed and threw the comforter over my head. I shook in fear, hoping Carver wouldn't have been able to track me here. I breathed heavily, catching my breath. I couldn't believe what I had just witnessed. If he were to track me down, there was no way I'd be able to... Creeeeeeeak. The floor in my room buckled beneath someone's creeping footsteps. I held my breath, refusing to give away my position like Naomi Nettles had. It didn't end well for her. The footsteps got closer, more pronounced. Then someone grabbed the comforter and ripped it off. I screamed, shhhh. My dad whispered with one finger to his lips. He flipped on a lamp and sat down on the edge of my bed. Shaking with fear, I struggled to sit up. It's late. You're going to wake your mother," he added quietly. My breathing started to calm. I looked at my dad, who had a strange look on his face. In his hand he held up a DVD case. The cover showed a haunting figure in a black hood with red eyes inside of it. The dripping text at the bottom of the case said, Bump in the night. Were you watching this downstairs just now? My dad sternly asked. Ashamed, I nodded. How many times have I told you you're not old enough to watch these movies yet? I lowered my head. I'm sorry. My dad sighed and tossed the DVD case onto my nightstand. Then he smirked. I was like you when I was a little curious about these movies. I love them now, but they gave me nightmares when I was your age. You'll probably have nightmares too, and maybe that will be punishment enough for going against what I said. My dad stood up and turned the light back off. Sweet dreams, he said sarcastically. He closed the door and went back to bed. I thought again about what my dad said. Maybe I was too young for these movies. What I saw was pretty intense. I made a decision. I'd wait until I was older before I immersed myself in all these horror movies that seemed so appealing to me. I'd wait until I was a little more mature, a little more ready. However, as intense as it was, I couldn't stop thinking about it. I felt something, a blossoming intrigue for these films. From under my pillow, I pulled another DVD case out from hiding. Carver was front and center. His farmer's scythe was dripping with red, hovering over a new crop of victims. I didn't see Mia there, leaving her fate a mystery for now. I could wait until I was older, but bump in the night too, Carver's revenge was calling my name. I wondered how long it would take for my dad to fall back to sleep. Ghost.com is also where you can find us on your favorite social media and even send in your own scary story for us to tell. Plus, you'll learn more about our author, Scott Donnelly, who has other horrors for both young and old. 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