the podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O and I'm here with the lovely, amazing, outstanding. Most grateful. Mr. Mako, what's going on? What's going on? I clap for that. I clap for that. I clap for that. I clap for that. I clap for that. Man, I got a guy here today, y'all. When I first met this guy, man, I was fishing for phase on love. We put on our boss talk shirts. We put our boss talk shirts on me and my wife. We said we going over here and get this nigga, man. And we went over there, man, and boomed. And then when they called, I'm staying. And when they called, I'm staying. Yeah, I got nose dive when I got there. And shout out to that, what's that boy name? BJ DeBona, huh? Shout out to not only him, Melvin Farmer. Yeah, man, thank you God, man. But this guy right here, though. Stump down. My boy's show in the building. Yeah, man. It took a minute, but I'm here. Man, man, I don't understand, man, how we get down, man. Listen, man, it's like for everybody to understand. Man, it got to be in you, not on you. You know what I'm saying? I just know when I met you, it was solid. You know what I'm saying? I knew, I knew the real. Man, that's one thing I go off.   Called real, recognized real. And it should be right. And you know that night, I ain't even talking about it, you was trying to talk to whoever. I spoke to him a little bit too in the front. Yeah, but I met the nigga on the move. Who met you first? He did. On the move. Yeah, he met me first. Cause he look like somebody. He look presentable. I appreciate that. Yeah, and I was like, this nigga gotta be dealing with this nigga called real nigga. Like, I can look at this nigga and tell. You know what I'm saying? I appreciate that. You can tell, man. So when I approach you, I'm like, man, he's like, yeah, man, I'm trying to link you in, man. No hesitation. And then went straight and did what he said he was gonna do. Went and talked and everything. So, man, thank you so much, man. No problem, man. Real stuff down there. Yeah, for sure. And we talking about Faze on Love, man. Who, he be on my show a lot. They only been on once. That's what man.     He don't know how much, man, I cut for it, man. Like when we went down there and just we linked again. Like, just cut for the nigga, man. Just the way that God bless me with that dude, man. Right, right, right. For him to come on this platform like that, man. And then for us to do a show like we did. Yeah. Well, crazy. Yeah. And you was here that day. I was there that day. And I played the bag, you know what I'm saying?  What did you think? I thought that I'm playing my position, you know what I'm saying? That's what I thought. You gotta know when it's your time and when it ain't. And you gotta be able to support your team, you know what I'm saying? I mean, if it's his turn to shoot the ball, then, you know, I'm gonna wait for the rebound if that's what he called for.  Like I was supposed to that day. I wasn't really thinking about nothing else other than making sure he was straight. That's it. I went thinking about it. Wow.    You don't remember that. You remember that? Hell yeah. What nigga you know don't notice what the police gonna run. What in my body?  The police came up here that day. Boy, I was laughing before I said, man, he didn't think I'm crazy. Damn, yeah.  No, man, I just like it. Them people been shopping. They still been there 15 years. So them people been shopping here and being here. They family been here, man. They people kids, man. They black, bro. They have people really. So you gotta make sure that you, this is a constructive business. You know what I'm saying?  The police just happened to show up all the day. We were cut. No, no, no. You were cut. No, you were cut. You're not the father, man. You're not the father. Give me a hand, son. What is up, man? You know what? They come in to check on us. They wanna make sure that we good. That's good. Because they know that we be doing interviews and they don't know what might ever happen.  You ain't gotta worry about nothing.   No. No, man, I enjoyed you that day, man. So after that, me and you met a couple more times but you went down to Atlanta and you was, I know you had been in the music and my wife probably fit to go down through there on you and I know she is. She gonna wanna know who you are, man. So let's talk about that. Yeah, I wanna know show before show cause the, no, what's your real name again? Justin. Justin? Yeah, yeah, yeah. White boy Justin, man. White boy Justin. Man, your mama gave you a white man. Yeah, I'm probably about the blackest Justin you gonna find. The most niggas Justin you gonna find. You know what I'm saying? Did you get teased about that name growing up? Nah, cause nobody never really called me by my real name. So you've had the name show ever since how old? Nah, I had another nigga named. Yeah. I know what that is. I know what it is, though, Justin, if you're saying that niggas. Then like it, she call it, come here, uh, uh, Pukit. No, I am not niggas. Oh, mama gave you that name. Yeah. Who gave you that nickname? My nickname? Your first nickname. My first nickname, my aunt did. My first nickname was Dusty. Dusty. Yeah. Cause when I had hair. Because you browsed. When I had hair. It was Dusty Red.  I know that color. She was on him.  Let's talk about it. You weren't you from originally. Let's get to it. I'm originally from North Louisiana, man. When you go past Shreveport, that's me. I lived all over there, motherfucker. Nah, I'm talking about it.   They gon' know. How old were you when you left down there? I left Louisiana when I was 22. Okay, so you really made your name down there. Yeah, 22 when I left. But I was already coming to Dallas doing music before I moved here.  I was raised with both of my parents. You lucky. Yeah, I was raised with both of my parents. That's rare. Let's speak on there for a second. You don't really want to talk about that for a second. I was asking about that. That does not happen. Well, for me growing up, that was a norm, okay? But since I've been here and I've seen so many people sit in that seat, oh no, it was always raised by my mom. My dad was either Rolling Stone or he was over here. He still was in my life, but they just weren't together. And I'm like, there's too many relationships nowadays that people give up on to raise their family separate. If it's abuse and all of that, then yeah, definitely. Do your thing, but if it's not abuse, work it out. I got a strong mama. You did what I'm saying? My daddy was a man for real. And he still is, you know what I'm saying?  You feel me? So yeah, fortunately, I was raised with both of my parents. How many y'all? It's five of us, but my mom is three. But my dad has five kids. So he had two before he met her? Right. Okay, just check it. He got two kids, yeah. Okay.   You know what I'm saying? Like straight up, you know what I'm saying? Cause my mama didn't teach me how to fight. My dad did.  So I just want to make sure that we, you know, we get there.  You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. We beat things because somebody wiped it.  You know what I'm saying? You find the right one.  You did what I'm saying? Like so you can't prejudge, you know, somebody, they upbringing and think I will, that make him more real or less real.  Yeah, no. You know what I'm saying? Like straight up, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, I'm fortunate enough that I had both of my parents. My mom was an educator and my dad was an entrepreneur. You see the main reason why I normally always ask that question too is because I see a lot of, cause me being a parent and having kids, especially boys, I always be like, okay, for a boy to have a mom and dad in the household raised in a great, good community, you know, didn't have no need. I see some of the people sit right here and say they still end up on the streets selling drugs, doing this, doing that. And I'm like, how, why? You didn't need for nothing. So why did you have to go out there and do that? Here's the thing with that, you know what I'm saying? And my mom's side of the family, no disrespect to them, you know what I'm saying? But my mom's side of the family was a little maybe less fortunate than my dad's side. You know what I'm saying?  You did, you know what I'm saying? That's a word. You got daddy's side cousins and mama's side cousins, you know what I'm saying?    So he went through the hate and jealousy of that too, to try to create a business for himself and work for himself, you know what I'm saying? That ain't easy to do even in today's time. So imagine, you know what I'm saying? I was born in 83, you did what I'm saying? So it wasn't easy for him to do that, you know what I'm saying?  It's always been hard for our people anyway, you know what I'm saying? No matter what the case may be, but it wasn't just easy for him either, but the structure from having my father around, you know, I used to see my own boys and feel like if they didn't have a father, they lacked that shit, you know what I'm saying? In ways, and if they didn't have a mom, they lacked that compassion and shit, you know what I'm saying?  So yeah. So when you came to Dallas, you got into the music, right? I was in the music way before the end, you know what I'm saying? But when you came, you got deep in it, did you come to Dallas and say, I'm gonna further my career in the music? Or you were, what was the whole intention of coming to Dallas? Right. Well yeah, the guy, you know what I'm saying, that I was doing the music with, he lived in Dallas. No, he came for a girl. You know what I'm saying? Really? Nah, I didn't. I actually came out here with my baby mama.  You know what I'm saying?  But you tried? I tried though, you know, I came to do it.  Yeah. How many kids you got? I got three. Yeah, my first son, you know what I'm saying? With my son, we came out here together, actually.  So little. Yeah, for sure. I always, I ain't, you know, we good, you know what I'm saying? We co-parented well though. You know what I'm saying? How old is he? 19. Oh, so he's a grown man. So he doesn't live with her? Nah, he lived with me when he, when we went out several ways, I think he was like five. And then he went and lived with his mom. And then I always told her like, we was cool. Like I said, co-parenting was cool. And I was like looking. By the time he get to be like high school, you need to send him to me.  He need to be with somebody who he ain't stronger than because he ain't really going to listen to you.  You know what I'm saying?  So I was raised by the neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? For real. So, you know, even, even with, because when you a kid, you don't even see your parents as being cool. Unfortunately, as cool as we think we is, as parents. Don't I say that a lot?  That's my favorite thing to say. You know what I'm saying? Like it's, it's, it's, it's somebody that they think just cooler than you. It just is what it is. And that's the weirdest thing because all of your kid's friends think that you're parents are cool.  They live their parents cool.  You know what I'm saying? They know mama. You know what I'm saying? They know everything about you. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm a neighborhood. I'm a neighborhood, you know what I'm saying? Kid, a product of the neighborhood.  Shout out to Ms. Mary.  You know what I'm saying? She don't let her mama, she don't let her mama get another whooping. I would rate like that. You know what I'm saying? Let me ask you something though. The music man, let's go. I'm trying to get to this music because I know already that music means something to you. For sure. You, you, you live and breathe that music man. So you know the scene of the music and everything. So help me understand when you, when it comes to the music. Who are you liking now, right now, then these days, like in Dallas? Oh man, you know what?  You know what I'm saying? That I can go all the way back. You know what I'm saying? When I first, my very first song I did with somebody out of Dallas was Kaimov. He was just on there. Yeah. That's the very first song I did with somebody in Dallas was weak with the OG. How did you feel about it? I was excited as hell. You know what I'm saying? I really couldn't believe that I was doing a song with him. That's how I was at that time.  This was him singing. Yeah, this was in the 90s.  Yeah. So for me to be on your song with him, man, I thought I had made it, bro. That's how it was back then. You just had that type of respect that for him to even sit down and talk to me or, you know, be willing to do a song with me. You know what I'm saying? I felt like, you know, a kid in the canister. How was the process of that though? Like, like, yeah. How did you even link that up? My partner, Willie Will. And shot out again to, you know, Mike Grayson that I had ran the label with. He actually did work with Runcy and Nemesis. OK, so Nate and all of them. And he did. He actually produced and recorded a lot of the rally boys OK, OK, you know what I'm saying? Like back when they was working back in the day. So when I came through, he was, you know, like, damn, you know what I'm saying? Boy, dope. And Willie Will had the song with Cotton, you know what I'm saying? And they brought me to the studio and I just wrapped. It's like, damn, you know what I'm saying? Put me on it. It was just like that. Back then it was more. You had to show and prove, man. You know what I'm saying? If you're going to get on it, if you're going to get on a track with boys, you had to really be you had to be something special. You know what I'm saying? Was it what was the process? Long when y'all went to the studio, I was always ready. I knew all my reps before I got to the studio. You know what I'm saying?  I didn't want to do nothing else. I asked my mom about a record deal when I was in like first grade. Wow. I always wanted to be in the table always. You know what I'm saying? So when you when you in Cottonmouth, y'all, y'all, y'all done the song, did y'all do a video to it or y'all, y'all, damn. No, we ain't do no video to it. But keep in mind, it wasn't my record. OK, OK. It was it's record. It was the homest record. It was really real record. OK, OK, cool. And I was just happy to be a part of it, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like you think it. I'm like at this time, I'm a teenager at this time. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I'm on a song with somebody who I'm riding, listening to who I never thought I would meet. And it's been like that for me a lot in my life.  You know what I'm saying? Like, even when I seen you had Bobo on here, you know what I'm saying? Like, Bobo, shout out to that boy, Bobo. My connection. I know my connection with Bobo. You know what I'm saying?  You know what I'm saying?  You know what I'm saying? And then, you know, to go to the radio station when he had the radio show and they did the pump of the dump it. I think it was the slamming the jam, you know, like that. And my record won the pump of the dump it. And if you won, you got to come up there and do an interview.  Really? So my relationship go back with him like that, which is the he's Leo connection, you know what I'm saying?  You did the intro for Bobo them show for his radio show. So so super tight, you know, he started it on podcast. You know that. I know that. You got to go on there, man. Yeah, it's yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my boy, man. We talk. We talk daily. Actually, I probably call him tonight. Man, it's nice to you. You're going to like it. I got to get you on there. He know. I'm telling you to show over there, baby. He know, you know what I'm saying? And he know, you know, when I when I said it, it is what it is. I ain't scared. I say what I'm talking about. Back then, your name was still show. My name was showbag. And just checking because I didn't know exactly when did you change it? Show came early on with the rap. Yeah, with the rap. Who gave me that name? Who gave me the name? It was self-proclaimed.  The name show because of that because of that music. Ain't nothing changed. You know what I'm saying? When I do something, I do it like I'm doing it for everybody. Oh, really? And that's that's what that's the that's the attitude I took into it.  If you got talent, you got to think that the people are going to watch you. You know what I'm saying? Even if you just got it, like some niggas just got it. I always feel like I had it. You know what I'm saying? So it wouldn't know what other name for what about your project? Did you the first project that you put out? First project, what about it? What you want to know about it?  You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? It was called it was called the main event. But my very, very first mixtape or you talking about like actual project? Yeah, it was called the main event. And I'm going to tell you how that came about. I had a homeboy and he was trying to get me on the radio. You know what I'm saying? This this was a long process. You know what I'm saying?    I just came up with, you know what I'm saying? Like this was a long process for me, bro. So I had a homeboy and he was trying to get me on. He really was and he took me up to the radio station one day in Monroe. And we went up there and he was just telling me, man, y'all got to y'all got to hit his cat, you know what I'm saying? Y'all got to hit his cat. And it was like, all right, you know what I'm saying? Well, we got a box in there, you know what I'm saying?  And if we hear something we'd like, we'll call you back. Like just put your CD in the box. You know what I'm saying? So I went back there and it's just a box box.  So it's arrogant as I am as a teenage. I come back in and say, man, why I can't just rap right now. And you tell me whether you feeling me or not that way.  And you ain't got to waste your time trying to figure out a lot of why you ain't listen to my music straight like that, like for real. And what he said? They like, you just going to rap right now. I like, yeah. Did you freestyle or something? I'm just saying rap. You couldn't tell you. Because all my reps, I just started rapping at that time. I just started going off, you know what I'm saying? Like going off verse for verse for verse for verse for verse. And as I started rapping, more and more people coming in the room like, God damn, you know what I'm saying? And Big Ralph, Jigga JT, Gray Digger, you know what I'm saying? Was it at the radio station in Monroe at that time? You know what I'm saying? And my homeboy said, man, rap that one song you got. I started rapping that motherfucker. And they said, you got that on that CD right there. I said, yeah. And they said, man, let me let me let me hear it. They put it on. They played on the live speakers. They were listening to it. And they say to T say, hey, give him some headphones. I'm going to put them on right now. Damn. But they weren't doing that. They weren't doing that. At that time, you weren't getting on like that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You weren't getting on like that. You made an impression. Made a very good impression. Came in the room and did exactly what I was planning to do. Yeah, I'm going to show you that. Can't nobody kill them boys, man. You know what I'm saying? And from there, I went to grab him. You know what I'm saying? I went to grab him. That's what shows should stand for. I can show you better than I can tell you. No, for real. That's real. You know what I'm saying? And I had no money at the time. Like how niggas was, you know what I'm saying? You ain't supposed to say that. But how niggas were paying to get on the radio. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I went, you know, I went. I ain't having like that at the time. And I told them I was like, man, they used to do those back when you could rap on the radio. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You could battle on the radio. Yeah. And I said, check this out, bro. I said, man, I heard y'all got this battle. You know what I'm saying on the radio. I said, man, how about if I call up here and I win as long as I win, y'all play my record. She said, cool. I called it Friday night, six months straight. They had to retire me. I was there. I was about to ask you not to drop the throne, but he said that they retired. You would be willing to be flowing like that, man. They retired me.  And then I started opening up for people. That's how I met George Lopez and all the DSO boys. That's how I met the Swiss high boys with Mike Jones and all them back in the day. That's how I met, you know what I'm saying? Everybody that will come to the radio station and come to the city to perform. That's how I met baby. What radio station was that? 100.1 to beat in Monroe, Louisiana. But that's how I met baby even back then. I'm riding with Grave. You know what I'm saying?  You know what I'm saying? And he would, you know, Monroe, Shreveport like this. You know what I'm saying? Houston, Dallas. We just went through there. You did what I'm saying?  Little nigga right there, man. So that's how I met baby. You and baby still got a relationship? Still to this day. Rock with him. Yeah. Rock with him. How do you feel about Dallas and baby and how he, his persona is in the city. Do you feel like baby has done the things that he should do as a personality, as a, as a leader here in the Dallas market? Because he definitely is a leader. He's been put on the gatekeeper list. Right. He's from Louisiana, but he is in Dallas, Texas, and people know him all across the world. Definitely the United States. How do you feel about how he stayed for himself? I feel like you got to understand, first of all, where we from to be where he at is, is damn the impossible. First of all, you know what I'm saying? Like, Louisiana is just different, bro. You know what I'm saying? And don't get me wrong. You know what I'm saying?  You know what I'm saying? You got thornbread Dallas niggas. And then you got niggas that represent the city because we live here. You know what I'm saying? So certain issues I don't speak on because I ain't a born bread Dallas niggas. You know what I'm saying? That's why that's why I'm holding the deal with this Pelican. You know what I'm saying? I represent the D, but I'm still a Pelican Louisiana niggas. So what he was able to do transition wise from, you know, coming from the radio station back there to basically being, you know, like looked at or considered to be a DJ Khaled. It was really impossible, first of all. Now, you got to ask some people that have done business with baby on another level, how they feel about, you know, I'm saying, with what he done did for them. You know what I'm saying? As far as me and bro relationship. You never had no problems, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, do I hear the disgruntles? You know what I'm saying? You know, different people say they're going to be honest with you. But you got you got some people that's going for for every 10 niggas that's going to say something bad. You're going to have 20 niggas that say something good. You know what I'm saying?  You go ask, you say you respect me. You know what I'm saying? I respect you. You know what I'm saying? I got a hundred niggas going to tell you I'm a real nigga.  You know, he probably broke and we was being on the girl and he lost, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? We were being on the girl and he lost and he mad. He's still mad.   You just lost. You feel what I'm saying? So you've been seeing chief on here, man. Chief, you've been on here a few times now and a frequency to the show. And it was a lot of it was a lot of talk about chief and what he done in the city for the music. You've been here. You heard the music. How do you feel about that whole chief didn't show love to the the the the younger dudes? The the the yellows. It's one dude say that matter of fact, it was Dallas Global. Shout out to your blue. Yeah, that's what happened when you speak. He said that that basically he kind of, you know, he kind of shitted on the other the young young boys were when yellow was trapped in design. And do you do like, how do you know chief and because it definitely to me, he's a legend. I ain't going to play with it. No, for sure. No, but how do you know him and how do you see him growing up here in the music? Because you definitely got 20 years here. Well, I met chief, you know, my chief story is got a little spin on it. You know, I'm saying when I was when I was coming up and I heard the legend, a chief just like everybody else, you know, I'm saying.  Clap. Yeah. Yeah. That's my boy. Shout out Corey. No, shout out Corey. You know, I'm saying my O.G. brother. You know, I'm saying no different than, you know, Bruce Wayne. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Shout out Bruce Wayne. Shout out Bruce Wayne.  You know, I'm saying big chief, the nigga, riding around Bentley, riding. Yeah, cool. You know, I'm saying extra more than riding.  And when I finally get to meet chief, right? I've seen him a few times. I've seen him a few times. I mean, I mean, we in East Texas with with with Bonafide, right? OK. We in East Texas. I'm I finally get to meet Dunn chief, you know, I'm saying. So I pull up on chief. I'm excited to meet him because I know who he is. You know, I'm saying I've heard about him. So I'm excited to meet him and I come to him. As that way, you know, I'm saying I I didn't I didn't get greeted. I didn't get embraced like I thought I would. Yeah, I'm saying my chief, you know, I'm saying. Wow. It was a let down.  You know, I'm saying. So so what detail at the what what did he say to you? Did he say anything?  I'm just saying like he was like already, but it wasn't like no. OK. You know what I'm saying? I see you out here grinding. It wasn't like trying to do your thing.  So you got to be, you know what I'm saying?  It was sort of like he gave me the fan love. Yeah, yeah, you know, you put a lot of work in you felt like it was like already you spoke to feel that way. I'm done, chief. You feel me? You know what I'm saying? And if I'm wrong, that's how that's how I feel. You know, I'm saying. Yeah. Did you ever see him after that anymore? Yeah, I've seen him in the city. But the flip side of that is, you know what I'm saying? Don't she was already diamond when, like I said, designer moving like he moves. You know what I'm saying? Like he's still to this day. You know what I'm saying?  Trying to get it type nigga. So now on the flip side of that, you know what I'm saying? As a grown man who were designing diamonds and all that fly shit, I can kind of see what he might be kind of skeptical. He said the same thing. You know, he said the same thing, like as yellow now, how you feel about what I said that night? Like when you get on the level, when you get on the level, understand, you ain't even tripping. Yeah, you understand. That's real. That's real. You know what I'm saying? Like people, people always feel how they feel on they side. You know what I'm saying? But sometimes you got to step back and see how bro might feel on his side. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know, he might have been like, I don't know. I mean, I know he say he rap, but nigga might be trying to get close to me for, you know, other reasons. You know what I'm saying? You're under the target at me. And I respect it. You know what I'm saying? Like I didn't get mad. It made me want hustle mode. So I could see diamonds in design and feel like that. You know what I'm saying? Feel like that nigga. So, you know, man, that's a hell of a way to answer that question because that's exactly what you got to do. You got to come on with it.  You know what I'm saying? That day it happened. Yeah, it happened. That really happened. I want to talk about something current that just happened. OK. OK. I don't know if you've seen it. You saw what Kanye West did recently. Talking about the fashion show. And he wore a shirt. They say white lives matter. White lives matter. Yeah, I saw that. What do you think about that? Because Boosie went in on him right now talking about he should be ashamed of himself, you know, because he he was the one in 2005. Whenever Katrina happened, he talked. He was telling George Bush that you don't care about black folks.  Like really? Why? I think Kanye West is very good at creating attention for himself. But at some point, dignity got to come in for me. You know what I'm saying? I understand, you know, making your money. I don't knock it. You know what I'm saying? I understand creating the tension content. I don't knock it. But at some point, your dignity got to kick in for me. Yeah. Yeah.  You know what I'm saying? And you know, that's that's why I feel about that. You know what I'm saying?  White lives matter, black lives matter, mixed lives matter. You know what I'm saying? Like we could do that all day. But I think he's just a master of creating attention for himself, for his own agenda, you know what I'm saying? And I think we don't know what his agenda is, but he do. Because nobody can do anything to him because much of people are like, OK, let's boycott it. That's not by this. They're still going by the same thing they said with Michael Jordan. A lot of people didn't like about Michael Jordan and a lot of things the way how he treat black folks. Right. But they still, as soon as them and Jordan's come out, they still front line and sense of buying these shoes. Yeah, that's one. That's one problem we don't have. We don't really stick together the way we should. No, I'm saying problem because it's some shit we can make happen if we would stick together, but we just don't. We don't. You know what I'm saying?   That Sunday after that, I'm watching TV like, I know these niggas ain't going.  Now, not today, you know what I'm saying?  But the day we, you know what I'm saying? We on our week, we nearly the day. I know we going to need it. And they didn't. Man, I see niggas with their hand on their heart. Tears coming out of their eyes. I said, wow, bro. Yeah, that's that's that's the way it be. That was that was I was like, if we can't, if we can't stick together on that, you know what I'm saying? The only time they came together and it really was George Floyd, that's what made them admit to the cabinet stuff, that it was it was something to stand on. And did we really stick together on that? Not really. That was the influence on our culture, you know what I'm saying? We get so excited about small, small wins, you know what I'm saying? Like, it had that been reversed the other way around the penalty.  You know what I'm saying? Like, you would have went straight from if you had made it to the to the kids, you know what I'm saying? Straight from that kid. You don't want straight from your knee on his neck to goddamn the back of the penitentiary. Oh, yeah, straight to the back. You know what I'm saying? Like straight up.   That's right. But it goes both ways because even with Boosie talking about it, yes, he he's the first one to stand up and talk about it. But is he talking about it just to get, you know, people to look his way as well? Boosie? Yeah, because he's saying his black card needs to be revoked.  I mean, I done met Boosie a couple of times.  Right. Boosie pretty straight shooter, you know what I'm saying? He pretty straight shooter on how he feels. I agree with that.  So he not doing it for the cloud. No, no, he really feel like that. You know, he really feel like that. He might have just went live or anything and just go gone. You got some people.  That's that's how they feel. They just happen to be celebrities. So we we view them as celebrities. But Boosie still feel like he's an everyday gangster street nigga. They who just say when he feel the way, he say what he want to say. You know, I'm saying and doing a great job marketing himself on the internet. Yeah, yeah, a great job happens to be real controversial when he say what he say, you know what I'm saying?  If it wasn't no cameras, if it wasn't no camera on, I still believe that.  Because I had to ask that question because I know some people probably think that way. You know what I mean? So yeah, I think that whether or not the camera was on or not, that's that's really how he feel, you know what I'm saying? And how do you feel about all these damn bloggers and interviews and people in the Dallas market? Because there's probably more here than anywhere else. Yeah, I feel like we need a light on the city. A lot of you got to keep in mind, bro. Dallas been Dallas for a long time, but we never really used all the resources we had. Yeah, but when you talk about bloggers, it's just like we interviewed journalists earlier and then we just interviewed LD. And when you talk about, you know, bloggers, you have a lot of people saying, well, yeah, you have a lot of bloggers, but some of them not reporting the facts that they just doing it for cloud. You have. And then when you talk about talk to a journalist, there's like, yeah, you have to do your research. You have to verify where this is coming from. You can't just put anything out there because it used to be that way.   You really think these niggas consider they self journalists? They don't. But you know what I'm saying? These niggas ain't journalists at all. But are these bloggers helping or are they hurting? It depends on how you look at it. They hustling. You know what I'm saying? It depends on how you look at it. You know what I'm saying? If you report something on me, you know what I'm saying? And you got. Let's just say, let's just say how a high celebrity knows, right? You got four hundred something thousand followers, right?   And you hit me in it.  You really just threw me a lot. So it depends on how the person that you speaking on played. You know what I'm saying? They're talking on a celebrity like what happened with Cardi B. And what's her name? Something Kate, that blogger. Well, you know, I'm suing her and winning that. But then and now she's trying to get her to Africa. She moved to Africa with her family. But she's trying to get her wages where she's still going to get paid from her wages. Because the amount of money she just sued her for, she probably ain't got enough money. Well, you spoke to you spoke to know that's a possibility as well.  But I don't know that she could happen. So they ain't going to do that. Now that she's that bloggers are getting sued for stuff like that. You know what I mean? It should because a lot of bloggers are loosely saying whatever. And since Cardi B did that and she won that, I would think that that would put some sort of fear in some bloggers. Be like, man, you know, let me watch what I'm saying, because I can be sued. Bunch of these niggas cap, though. I heard one that came on here said he was going to sue somebody. I mean, he ain't caring about that no more.   They ain't got to move to Africa with us. Sue for what? You know what I'm saying? They ain't got nothing but the cutlets and grandma house. You know what I'm saying? Like what's Sue a nigga for what? Some of these niggas ain't scared to get sued because they already against the odds. They already trying to get there. So sue me for what? I want you to tell me how the cutlets I get to know when the tax is gone. Tell me about Carlos Miller. He was on the show and he said when he spoke, he spoke on your boy, your homeboy. Right. The face on the cup face on said when you was here that day. Yeah. I know residuals. He said this is wrong. What? I didn't get that on. Every time you play, every time you play the clip back, I don't know what to do. Shit. Bro said this is wrong. I didn't see it that day. You didn't see it that day, didn't you?  I ain't see his eyes. When you play the clip back, they say, ah, no. God damn, bro, say that shit's wrong. No. I am.  Yeah, what he said. What he said that Carlos say from where? You should ask him from where. And, you know, basically I said I did for all the movies or whatnot, but when you see the old, here you go, same question, the same question. I break it down every time the same. Well, you can see the old Will Farrell. FaZe Unlove. Give me some more names, baby. Jamie Foxx, Eddie Murphy. What's that boy from down there?  The one y'all love so much. The white boy. Jim Carrey. No, he from here or somewhere in Texas. They seen him at a drive-through. What's that? McConaughey, man, through McConaughey. All of these boys right here, this is a whole network of Hollywood boom.  You can believe that FaZe Unlove sent me pictures. He's in the gated community. He's living good. He got a house here. He got one in LA. He got one over here. He's got it. Now, let's shift to New York. You got Country Wayne over here. You see him every day jumping out of big cars, big houses, living his life. They say it's reported that he's every month, a bad month is 350K a month. A good month is 400 and some thousand per his people that have been on the show. 480,000 a month. Every month.  So I'm just trying to understand what do you think about these two worlds? It's opportunity in both. Of course, I always say that. But how do you feel about these two worlds and the Dezzy Banks?  The Bubba Dubs. Oh, man, that's my boy. His team, my people. We just talked today. You know, Drew. I just talked to him. He called me right for this. That's my guy, man. I told him to go in on something we were talking about. But I'm just trying. These niggas is trying. Yeah, that's my boy. They use my boy word everywhere. You niggas better get that nigga his props, too. Don't use his word without giving him his props. The nigga came up with something special. All you rich niggas out here.  And y'all know who I'm talking about. Y'all got all kind of sports center channels there. Give my boys props. But anyway, those guys versus the new versus the old, how do you feel this can be? I talk about it because I know it's something to need to be talked about. I'm going to continue to do it because I know if I talk about it, they're going what? They're going to have to figure it out. It's in your face. Quick walk around these comedy shows, not speaking to one another, acting like you're better than each other because both of y'all got a little money, nigga. Yeah. That's the way I see it. Am I tripping? I see where you're going. Am I tripping? No, I see the smokey boy. I see the smokey boy. What do you think about it? My opinion, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to keep it all the way of hunting. You know what I'm saying? No other way to be.  You know what I'm saying? That's just it with a nigga. That's my nigga. Yeah, yeah. I grew up like that. Okay. Niggas. Whatever you do, you win it. If they pop off, nigga, we just fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we figure out what happened when we get to the house and then I tell you. You wrong.  You know what I'm saying? But whatever you say. Like whatever. We doing. That's what it is. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to lie, man. Like I said, man, big dog. I wanted that nigga on this show and I'm going to get him back. I always tell him that. We hang out. That's my guy. He gave me an opportunity to be around and me and my wife blessed us. You know what I'm saying? And I'm just saying, man, you know, dope, man, country, why ain't them saying thing? Invite us down to, you know, give us shows to red carpet effect, right? Give us shows. I love, man. Hey, man, just show. Y'all ain't got to do nothing. Just come, you know, just love, bro. I think it's something to where they both get money. But you gotta. Crazy money. Ain't no, ain't no difference in me than Mike Bless. When Bless came on here. Yeah. Strongly behind. Behind Country Wayne. For a show. You know what I'm saying?  At all. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.  Face on love. You're not playing.  Who getting more money?  You know what I'm saying?  I'm counting mine. You know what I'm saying? I ain't worried about it for nigga getting 400,000 to 300,000.  You know what I'm saying? All I know is, nah, bro. You know what I'm saying? Nah. He ain't going to get face on at all. At all. So whatever he say, that's what it is. See, I'm saying like this. I'm not finna get on no platform and say, bro, wrong. Nah. I ain't finna never say that. No. You know what I'm saying? I ain't finna never say, them niggas then get on here and say, yo, face on it right. No, they didn't. No. And they ain't fence on. No, they ain't. Cause that's who they riding with. And guess what? Ain't fence on. No. No.  That's how I met him. Ain't finna too. No. You know what I'm saying? Now, my personal opinion, my personal opinions, check this out. This a quick resolve to me. You know what I'm saying?  You know what I'm saying? I get irritated real fast.  Cause I'm trying to move on. You know what I'm saying? I get irritated. So this how I see it, right? Let's take bro. Let's take phase on and all of his caliber. Let's say the comedians. And they got a lot of stuff. Let's say that Eddie Griffin's, Eddie Murphy's, you know what I'm saying? Let's say all the great comedians, right? You know what I'm saying? And I'm not saying that the comedians said that themselves. I'm just saying theoretically speaking, right? You know how to play basketball, right? I came up after you. You see a nigga smooth, right? But you don't know something I don't know. How about you take me to the gym, nigga? And show me how to make my crossover a little bit more crossover, you know what I'm saying? Show me how to make my jumper a little bit more jumpy. You feel what I'm saying? Show me. So how about the old comedians, the OGs?  Let's say the OGs who feel like what the youngsters are lacking. Show them how to be you. But do you think young niggas, hold on, hold on, hold on. It's a double sided coin. There you go. Young niggas, if y'all feel like y'all know the new way and y'all know the easier way to get money and they way may be outdated, show the nigga, show him. We ain't gotta, if you making 400,000, right? And I'm making 200,000. Nigga, show me how to make your 200. That's right. If I show you how to make my 400, now we both making 600. Don't they make my 600,000, 200,000, 400? I'd rather have a 600 than the 200 and the 400. That's how my brain. No, I like that. I think that's the way it is. That's the way it should be. That's how it should be. All you say is come together. That's how it would be. You know, our people got it. Listen man, I love my people, bro. I already know, like I say, when a question came up in it, I ain't see nothing in that. What we talked about that day, didn't see nothing. But at the end of the day, the people, the people spoke, when they seen it, they seen the issue as well. But I can tell you right now, man, strong, these brothers coming up, the entrepreneur face of them been up, these niggas coming up, I'm loving every bit of them. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I'm loving every bit of them, man. I'd be lying if I say I don't watch there's a bank skit. So I'd be lying if I say I don't watch country-wane skits, but I'd also be lying to you if I tell you that I don't enjoy Deisha Pills comedy. What? You dig what I'm saying?  That I don't enjoy Kevin Hart's comedy. You know what I'm saying? Or his movies or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Like when you in your leisure time, you just looking to be entertained.  You know what I'm saying?   You know what I'm saying?  You said you have a son and he's older now, but he's two boys. I got two boys. When they were younger, did they ever play football? No, my son played, he ran track. He played football up into high school, then he ran track. You know what I'm saying? So you used to go watch him when he played football? I was at everything. Okay, so. He'll tell you, I was at everything. I never, see, listen, I wasn't no baby daddy. You know what I'm saying? I was a father. You know what I'm saying? That's real. I was at every parent-teacher conference. I was at every football practice. I was at every football game. I was at every track meet. I was at everything. You know what I'm saying? Yes, that's where it goes. Because I understood that me and his mom were together, so I had to put forth that extra effort. You know what I'm saying? Right. And I did that. Shit, even though he didn't live with me, I saw him, you know, three times a week and at least once on the weekends.    You know what I'm saying? That's real. It's like, which one is more important? You're prioritizing it. Rap only gonna last so long.    You did what I'm saying? That's real.  But when you used to go to his games, how, like, were you wanting to get heated against the other people, the other team, whenever you saw? My beef was always with him. Oh, okay.  Yeah, yeah.  You talking about shooting, right? Yeah, that shooting that happened somewhere out by the soda. Yeah. Did you, you heard about that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, how do that happen at a kid's football game? No, the only reason I brought it up is because I'm looking at the news and I see where another ex NFL player is a coach in Arizona. He ended up in an altercation and this was at a 12 and under football team. The game ended and they lined up to shake hands and somebody said something that he didn't like and he went in and they started fighting and arguing and whatever. And right now it's gonna be. Luckily nobody, luckily nobody got killed but that must happen very often. Let me tell you something. I live my life like this. You never know how disrespect gonna come out.  You never know how disrespect is gonna carry out. You know what I'm saying? That's real. You'll never know. Anger, anger will go there. You'll never know, you know what I'm saying?  So lady, you just lost your job.  You know what I'm saying? You can't kick your drug habit. And today be the day that you're like, you know what, the next person say something to me.  No matter if you're all around all these children that's gonna affect them. I'm gonna crash out.  You know what I'm saying? And there you go. You never know how disrespect is gonna play out. That's why I always leave with respect first. You know what I'm saying? Because you never know how disrespect gonna play out. One thing I... A lot of times it ends up laid out. This is how I always, I started leading my life is the fact that you can't control what nobody else says and does. The only person you can control is yourself. So even when disrespect comes, you can control how you react to something. You can control how the other person come at you. You can control how you respond to that to have a different outcome. Sometimes, sometimes, and in a perfect world.  No, but I got older and that's where I came from. That's where I came from now. You really think niggas is running around, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna control myself. That's the one thing that niggas ain't got a lot of. You gotta control, it's very obvious.  Oh yeah. And he's functioning in the world every day like a regular nigga. Think about that.  No, that's real. On medication and all that.  They don't even need no medication. No, that's real. That's real. Fucked up.  You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And then the more I keep talking to him like, this nigga really way off. And he functioning in the world like a normal motherfucker. I got a question for you. My boy, High Boy West came on here. This guy, this went crazy for me. He said he had a. He had a side. Okay. He said a hundred thousand. Right. Oh yeah. Yeah. He said a hundred thousand. He said, man, by the time I get, you know, I'm drugging and thugging. I'm out here.  Man, I'm not gonna be gone in a week. Yeah. Yeah. You being a musician, an artist, and understanding the way this whole game, you know, works have studied the game. What did you think when he said that? How did you, what did you think? First thoughts. Man, salute to West. You hear what I'm saying? Hello, West. You understand I love that y'all nigga. Let me say this.   Oh yeah, that's real.    That's real. You understand what I'm saying? Mm-hmm.   He wasn't lying, you know what I'm saying?   You behind on child support. You been staying with your mama.  You know what I'm saying?  No, a hundred thousand dollars ain't no money when you living like that. You know what I'm saying?  Yeah, that's real. That's real. A hundred thousand ain't no money, man.  Now if a nigga used to have it money, you know what I'm saying? If a nigga used to have it money, you know what I'm saying? Then you know.   You know what I'm saying? At one point in our lives, none of us had that kind of money. But everybody say they hustles. Everybody claim they big pack flippers. You know what I'm saying?  You know what I'm saying?   Then that ain't number two, three thousand.  You know what I'm saying? Make that make sense for me.  Two, three thousand.  To me. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no. I think it's a, I think it's a excitement. It's a rush.  It's hard. Nigga, I feel the same. Nigga, what Gucci? What nigga get the paper?  Gucci flew in the end. You know what I'm saying? They flew in. You got it. But not only that, I'm thinking who hardly ever gets a hundred thousand dollars one time? Right. Yeah, you might've had a hundred thousand dollars passed through your hands for all the work that you've been doing over a period of time. But it doesn't get that much money at one time. That's what I'm saying. If you ain't never had no money, it's overwhelming for you. Because if you a nigga, let's say, let's just real talk.  Like I said, no discreet, because I know bro a real nigga. I want to make sure we get to know this dude. But you know what I'm saying? But you got to realize you're talking about a guy that's 27, 11 years in prison at the age of 27.  So understand what I'm saying. This is going to make all the sense in the world when I say this.   You already got your life set up. So the money is just going to enhance what you already got going on.  When you give me 100,000, I'm gonna be like, nigga, where the other at? We gotta go get some more. I'm finna go get some more. That's all it do. But again, if you give it to somebody, you know what I'm saying? Who got all these things that he need, like he stated, by the time I went and got me a car, by the time I went and did this, by the time I went and did that, yeah. It ain't no money. Just think about how much your livelihood accounts, bro. But it's not even like you just needed it at the same time. Just the same thing like when people get income tax. The first thing they do is go buy a new car, buy this, buy that. It's not always, okay, I'm gonna go buy me a, I just got $10,000 for my income tax. I'm finna go find me a $1,000 car that can take me from A to B. Oh no, I'm finna show out. I'm finna get, spend $8,000. Only I have $2,000 left. That's the same mentality I'm talking about. Most of the people who end up in those situations who getting 8,000, 10,000, they ain't used to having them. That's a lot of money to them. But when do you get used to it?   Oh man, top three artists all the time, dead or alive. You know how I do it. Any genre. Any genre. Number one. PMC. Epcot. It's my favorite rap about them. No, he just said that because he know you like PMC. No, no, let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. Stop playing. Let me tell you why. Why? Because PMC spoke for the South. Who he sound like? For the South. PMC spoke for the South, man. You know what I'm saying?  Them niggas can't rap. Them niggas country, them niggas, whatever, whatever.  You know what I'm saying? Did you get to meet him? I didn't. Me neither. I met Boone, you know what I'm saying? Me too. Like I say, I met Boat, but nah, I didn't get to meet him. I done seen him on the show, but I ain't never get to talk to him. I seen him perform. Me too. The closest thing I got to do was see him perform. Oh, okay. Me too. Number two? You know what I'm saying? Pop. Two, Pop was the realest. Pop. Pop was, Pop would've been number one, but he was West Side. You rap in the South. By that niggas territory, like his boy, man. Me and this niggas. We gonna stop it together, niggas. You know what I'm saying?  You feel what I'm saying? But it just. Okay, who's your number three? Had my boy right there, man. Show came in and showed out. Number three, man. Number three, that's a hard one. Number three. Damn. Mm. Scarface. Damn, I knew you were gonna say that. I knew it was Scarface. Not the whole time, I'm just thinking I'm not, he gonna say it's Scarface. I knew it, I knew it was Scarface.  Who can beat that nigga in a verse? Hey, nobody can.   Everybody be saying Michael Jackson. Nigga, that was a hard top three. Probably one of the hardest ones that we ever had. Man, face, bro. No, no, the way you articulated it. Yeah. No, I ain't no Nigga Kamen. He ain't Nigga's face. Nigga Kamen here and gave us a hardcore top three. That's what this show is about. Yeah. The top three was. Cause his top three is like your top three. Don't go there. It was the dopest top three that I've heard about a lot of niggas in here, are you? Nah, it's real, it's real. I've been hearing you say, what, what, man? This day, out of all day, show came over and showed out. Yeah, man. That nigga's come and told us about the south.  From the south, man. And the nigga stomped down. Don't come down here thinking nothing weak. You get sent back the wrong way. I like pop passion. You know what I'm saying?  Nigga, I said what I see. You know what I'm saying? That's how I see it. And I like that about Pimp too. He went by his tongue. I'm trying to hear it. You know what I'm saying? I'm a real, I like, I like subressive. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, you know, it is what it is. And I mean, as far as music, body of work to come from the 90s. You know what I'm saying? All the way up to how, how face did it?  You know, what you gonna say?  You know, the funny thing, you know how we were talking about earlier about people suing people, the information of character and how the bloggers and whatever. I would think that the bloggers are the ones who mainly get this. Well, why did I just see that Trump is suing CNN for a billion dollars for def, defamation of character? Yeah, I mean, but see Trump built a different type of news. That was coming. He not gonna put it. Trump built a different type of news. He ain't your average president. Like CNN, who's supposed to be, who's supposed to be journalists who, you know, have all their ducks in the room and stuff like that. They watch what they say and do and all of that.  When you got the kind of money, you know what I'm saying? That Trump got. You think he bored?  Nah, I don't think I would be bored with that kind of paper. You gotta realize how old Trump is, too. He not tripping, man. Yeah. He really doing that for his persona to stay out there like that, but he really back somewhere with a robe on kick that thing.  You know what I'm saying? Like don't play with me. Cause the, don't get me wrong. Like the president, that was just power. He ain't, it wasn't about the money. Wasn't nothing, nigga. You know what I'm saying? That wasn't about the money. That was just, man, let me tell you, toxic combination.  That's a dangerous motherfucker, man. Don't never forget that. Man, I hope we did injustice today, man. You know what I'm saying? Did we do your justice? Did we justice, man? Man, I sure am glad you came. Now you gotta come back and do some co-hosting. We were trying to set it up. Trying to set it up. But we gonna get there. We ain't done yet. We gonna get there because the show is, you see he supposed to be a co-host. You know how I get bring people in. He damn sure can come, you know. And let me say this, you know what I'm saying? From the time that I met both of y'all, you know what I'm saying? Always, you came to me the way you came to me, made me go and try and do what I done. And coming over the first time and just seeing how the setup was and how y'all was going about representing y'all's selves. Because that's got a lot to do with everything. How somebody represent theyself. You see a lot about how they bring gonna be. You know what I'm saying? So the way y'all was representing y'all's self and how y'all believed in y'all's selves and know if they not take the first answer to keep going to that door, man. Most people don't do that. They don't do that. Most people don't do that. And that's why they be mad, sitting around mad when they see somebody else moving. But you took the first note.  You took the first note. Thank you so much. Man, I appreciate y'all for having me. You know what I'm saying? No man, it ain't over. Nigga, we coming back. Nigga, next time you gonna be sitting right there, and we gonna have us a guest, Nigga.  Sit me in here with somebody, man. I hope it's phase on. I'd love to get phase on in here and have a good time just talking to us. Bro, be back soon. You know what, it could happen. And not only that, not just him.  And who better to talk about the music with than you, man. Bro, you know what's crazy, even. The way you carry yourself. The way you carry yourself. That's how I even got around, bro. Oh yeah? Yeah, that's how I even got around here. You know what I'm saying? And for me, that mean a lot to me. You know what I'm saying? Man. You know, the homie prophet. Okay. You know what I'm saying? One of the homies. Phase on coming to the city, say, bro, I need you. I need you to stay on it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Whatever you need, stay on it. Yeah, yeah. Come on, bro. You gotta be a certain type of person. Represent yourself. Like I'm telling you, you gotta be a certain type of person. Represent yourself. For somebody to say, hey, let me put this person with you. I ain't got to worry about what he gonna do. How he gonna move? I know how he gonna move. That's real. You know what I'm saying? You gotta represent yourself. You gotta represent yourself away. Man, I just thank God that I got to meet you, bro. I thank God that we got to tie this time together. We gonna get in here and talk about this music again. If it's not with Faizunk, I seen you. Was you rapping? You be with a lot of people. No, I seen you rapping, though. I seen you rapping. I'm a moving groove. No, I seen you rapping. You know what I'm saying? You might not know who I am, but I can make you feel who I am. What's the biggest? Sorry, baby. Go ahead. No, I wanna know about this rap he did in the truck that day with Faizunk. Oh, with Faizunk that day? Man, we was going to the studio that night and I was just, you know what I'm saying?  And I rapped it just to him. Then they say, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.   That's all it was. Believe it or not, bro. Bro will call me and just run ideals for my benefit. You know what I'm saying? That's why I say, man, salute, salute countrywane. You know what I'm saying? Salute, Dezzy Bank, salute everybody. They got their opinion. But at the end of the day, countrywane ain't calling my phone for my benefit. That's real. You know what I'm saying? So I can't go against that. You know what I'm saying? And that just, that just went in. No, no, he took me. I didn't bought me a damn meal. I love what they have. You know what I'm saying? They gonna buy me and two sent me some pictures and stuff. We doing pretty good, man. Me and FaZe aren't doing pretty good. Niggas don't realize it, but me and him, hey, the funniest thing is every time something go down, people don't know me and these people talking, man. We talking? We talking, man. Every time something happens. My wife's in a little crazy. Check it out, check it out. Bro, hit me. What's up, bro? Man, call it in there. Yeah. Yeah. And you know exactly who you talking about. Yeah, and I love the relationship we done built, bro. I love it because it's so real. He can't be fake. That's the way this nigga is. Nah, that's what he is.  You get what you get. So this nigga do it. He can't hold it back. It's who he is. He can't hold it. That's funny. He gonna say what he's saying. He gonna say what he's saying. He gonna say what he's saying. And you have to deal with that, man.  The biggest person I've probably met in my lifetime. Biggest person I've met. And biggest to you, actually. That blew me back. Yeah. Missed you up when you was in that room. That you may have even built a relationship with. FaZe on, no count, cause you and him could. Nah, nah, the biggest person I've probably met that I could just think of on top of my head was probably Ronald Hazley.  You know what I'm saying? Just, man, watching him do what he do and still perform. And he a... Older. Old nigga with a swag out, though. You know what I'm saying? Man, the man got him a young, sweet thing. You hear me? Man, he ain't lost a step. I love to see the OGs who don't lose their step. You know what I'm saying? He's still a great big, Haslick, big, fly as a mother for him.  Like, you think a nigga might fall off from the R. Kelly to this point. Before that, to brother him having the good talk. You like, okay, this nigga to reinvent himself, to beard everything. That's why I love you so much.  Fly as a motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? Don't wear that white. The nigga gonna get clean on y'all, man. When I met him, I was like, damn, you know what I'm saying? I think, besides that... If you had to put Ronald Isley and Charlie Wilson to get side-by-side verses, I think it would've been. Why, Ronald? Because I know the... Don't get me wrong, Charlie Cool. I love me some Charlie Wilson.  We love Charlie, but I'm just telling you. Both of them, their style is impeccable. Yeah, yeah, for sure. They got swag.  Man, that nigga got a caliber. Isley older than... Man for me. He's older, right?  It's hard, too. How many motherfuckers is doing that? How many people is still jamming from clean up time when you was a kid? To now. To right now. You know what I'm saying? How many motherfuckers?  With some of his old songs. Who doing that? I can't think of nobody, like, even if I try. Everybody still rocking their own stuff. Outside of running Spencer, which he's an older cat. Other than maybe... But listen, listen. No, he's not as old as he is. No, but still. All I'm trying to say is, you ain't heard nobody with that sound. Other than, and he just had the same music, but other than Frank Bette, Frank Bette, come on, man. Yeah, they still performing. What? Yeah. I thought about them when you said I heard. You know what I'm saying? Like, other than that, but... Man, we better get out of here, man. You know what I'm saying? Thank you so much for coming on the show. Appreciate it, man. Thank you, man. Can I kick some shots? Come on, let's go. I can niggas get a hold of you though. Yeah, man. Let's make sure we're getting into that. You know what I'm saying? Man, my Instagram, guys give show. You know what I'm saying? Guys give show. Ain't no underscores, no none. Just straight up guys give show. That's G-O-D-S-G-I-L-T-S-H-O on Instagram. Man, salute, man, from where I'm from. All my outside lose under niggas. We serious about that. We serious about that boot. All my, all my... Everybody who ever took us from time to help create me, you know what I'm saying? As a man and a brand, you know what I'm saying? I appreciate, you know what I'm saying? The Ray Charles, I appreciate the George Lopez is just like I appreciate the Gray Diggers and you know what I'm saying? My uncles and my big homies in, you know what I'm saying? The Phazons, you know what I'm saying? The Roddies, you know what I'm saying?  I appreciate everybody who played a part in making me a better man and a better brand, you know what I'm saying? And you just did that for me, you know what I'm saying? Man, we for the kill, these niggas. We don't get them every time. You know what I'm saying? Top three artists of all time, this nigga for the good of golden play. These niggas really ain't just came in here and named no stump downs like that. You know what I'm saying? The hardest top three that you heard us for. Man, check it, man. Hey, man, thank you for coming on the show. We love you, bro. I appreciate it, man. Show you did your thing, man. We gonna do it again and again and again, nigga. Check it, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101.  And we out.