he's got a lot to account for for this case well you would think that I also have problems with this you go ahead metal apparently this only took her like 20 minutes to put together because that's all we see in the episode it is all we say as far as if you would ask me it's like yeah this probably all happened in like three days and now we're done the way they show us time in this show I don't appreciate how they have why is Wong in quotes the name he claims to have of some reason that's hard to believe I guess I don't know but he has a LinkedIn and everything and people know who he is well I think they do the thing of like it's Wong just Wong like as if not having a second name means the first name is hard to believe or something also don't appreciate how for role all of the roles are in parentheses why are they yeah I don't know why category for that you don't need parentheses yeah I don't know why why did they do that like I said I really know the fact that this is all she has to look at throughout all of these witness testimony things do not have any questions written down that she wants to ask, she's just pulling them all and there's no cross either there's no like digging into the there's no attempt to wonder if they're even lying about anything terrible terrible terrible but oh well obviously she's panicking oh no we're running out of witnesses to talk to and Wong isn't here yet oh no and like I could totally just picture someone listening to us describe this and being like Wong's gonna turn up and just admit to a bunch of crimes is that seriously what's gonna happen yes yes that's exactly what's gonna happen so she's like oh god Wong's not here yet and then he turns up and he's like woohoo I'm here my apologies portal opens a portal into a high security prison no clearance at all no idea what at least he's proven that's how I would have gotten a blood ski out exactly yeah like so how did you get it oh that's okay I like how there's just no concern that you might have tracked you just brought in like contraband or weapons like any sort of none of them cares again like the jury doesn't the security doesn't care nobody just like hey hello Jennifer Walters went through security and this is Wong's source of cream no powers unless you teleport in that's fine no moving back to the elf lady this line is said they're going they're trying to dismiss the trial and she says Runa is the daughter of an elven diplomat on Asgard and now in new Asgard so that provides a diplomatic immunity like because that her father has it um so what's what's weird is the the response to this as well as just establishing this at all it's just like new information to me it's just like does I mean anybody from new Asgard can do anything they want all over earth is that the implication of that because I doubt that's how that fucking works secondly he says the judge she may have diplomatic immunity in new Asgard but we're not in new Asgard yeah like the whole point of diplomatic immunity is that it gives you immunity in other countries that's the whole point of diplomatic immunity it gives you more immunity in other countries that you go to not the country that you're in well now you have to establish if they if this this earth accounts new Asgard as an actual city is it a sovereign state in that yeah who ceded their territory to new Asgard because as far as we know they just kind of crashed there and now they have like their infinity cones diplomatic fuck me but yeah as I've come to understand it it's like when super high ranking political member people go on like different ways yeah you just say diplomatic immunity after shooting Mel Gibson in front of his partner we should watch lethal weapon yeah so I was just fucking blown away by this because I was like my limited understanding of the point of diplomatic immunity makes this sentence so hilariously pointless in general just she could do whatever she wants in the place that he's from that's what diplomatic immunity means what she a diplomat didn't I say that she's the daughter of a diplomat it's like okay sure alright oftentimes it does extend through family members right but like especially if they visit with them but does she have it or does she not have it I guess she does his counter is that she doesn't apply here but it's like well that was a pretty big fucking miss from her lawyer if that's true that's what I'm saying why would a lawyer try that if it's not valid here what's the point of even bringing it up because you know it's not an interesting back and forth if your lawyer goes this is true and then the judge goes it isn't actually this is like this is ridiculous yeah I guess it's supposed to just make it seem like things are happening and they heard the words diplomatic immunity on tv so they wrote that into the script I heard the word immunity I know I think I know what that means and then she says fuck me I hate this so much she says your honor Asgard is not a place it's a people referencing Ragnarok and then the judge says thoughts inspirational speeches are not admissible in court comedy also how does he know about this speech that was a really nice moment it was a nice moment in Ragnarok it was so not how does he know about this I guess someone wrote it down and told everybody about it okay I don't want that to be a thing though but yeah he says my client was defrauded for $175,000 he deserves compensation and then the counter argument is he was enjoying the role play with the elf he knew about this and then once he got bored he decided that he wanted to sue her and try to get money out of it because he wanted to pretend like he was dating Megan Estallion and nobody would be stupid enough to believe that they were actually doing it it's just a relationship gone bad it was not a scam that's the counter argument and already when I was first listening I was just like so this will just be proven by like text history any communications they both have you'll be able to tell whether or not he believed it was real it would be easy that's pretty much it I didn't even know this was a real person until I watched this show but the judge says I must say I find it hard to believe that Mr. Bacowski could be fooled so easily so easily by a perfect shapeshifting picture people have been fooled digitally by like just anybody pretending to be anything and you know like a literal shapeshifter you find that hard to believe yeah like come on phenomenal honestly um yeah the judge says now like basically it's incumbent they had to like establish essentially that he believed honestly like he believed as if because I feel like what you would need to be proving is that this was all role play that claim seems to be more fantastical to me than oh yeah the shapeshifter tricked him I just can't believe it at least right what you can take from this is that this was an attempt to dismiss the trial and he said it's going to trial there is a trial there is something to be sorted out here it's like oh thank fuck if there was diplomatic immunity that would have been like known and resolved before the hearing like that wouldn't have come up just now it would have been a thing before that dude I was surprised if before you go to hearings and preliminary hearings and like trial there's like paperwork and shit like you would know about these things ahead of time if that was actually valid I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in some like high level case Jen realizes the judge was actually one of the the people is a scroll or something and then it like zooms in on her face and she goes double jeff and we're all like that's not what that is and the writers are like why are you leaving that I've heard it it's a lore thing I know it's a lore thing I don't know it's fine it's fine but yeah the cringe doesn't end the elf pretends to be the judge the cringe never ends Mahler in front of a courtroom filled with people now her lawyer aptly points out that's illegal too late you've done it they do the thing like how funny is this it's like you don't understand it's crazy because the prosecution says oh come on this is getting a little old we know it's you bro whatever this is getting old implies that you have a long history of doing this and it is while it was once amusing it is no longer so but yeah that's it you're in front of a full courtroom yeah but that's it it's just a joke you see it even comically running away from one of those policemen is like running away from the alef but I guess to jump the gun it is acknowledged later on that this is something that she did and we'll get to how stupid that is too but just yeah the second you see this happens it's all over already the judge doesn't need anything else now it's done though prison I did a judge, fraud, trespass it's all kinds of things it's like you're done both lawyers are like please stop doing that stop it stop committing crimes in the courtroom please you're making my job very difficult another thing I let me say a thing about dialogue you can tell with just a subtitle what I'm probably gonna say about this the lawyer for the good team just goes this is very good for us yeah like you can't in case you couldn't pick that up yeah that is true I'm glad he was there some of us aren't like me for instance I'm not a legal expert some people are I don't think any of us are really like you are to a degree right but like Mauler and Meadow and myself we don't even know what laws are it's very important that we have someone explain that it's good we're not posing side if one of the the client impersonates a judge in the courtroom in front of everybody not only impersonates a judge but displays very clearly how convincing the illusion is and shows an intention to end the trial like and in conjunction with the fact that she already impersonated your client to try and get you to just close their case and not be involved anymore and then impersonated you after trespassing on private property under a false identity like yeah the elf is going to jail for yeah and all of the laws need to be rewritten to account for this shit this needs to be stomped ahead of time I guess this is something that hasn't been like I guess we don't know the nature of their relationship either but depending on how long and like how intimate it was as well you've got that as an element too it's not acknowledged so I guess we don't know for sure but like once you factor that in as well Jesus yeah they're not going to want to talk about that because the maturity levels of this show are way near enough to talk about that if you were to acknowledge that because that would be just gross but I guess we'll pass that Wong says in regards to Blonsky getting out of his cell I gave him no choice yeah like again no choice that's good for him really bad for you yeah we're joking about this but the dialogue is as blunt as that once he says all the shit that we've been saying he says one of the guys on like the little countily thing there says you realize you just admitted to a prisoner escape and that's a crime what's weird is he says he says I took him up by force but then also says that he told him they can stay and come our touch afterwards so what so the problem is that the show doesn't want to so forced forced means something it means something and when we're talking about the law we've got to be very precise with our language forced so you threatened him if he didn't do what you said you threatened him but the show doesn't want it because of course threatened him it's like oh that wouldn't be good for Wong like if he threatened somebody to participate in an underground fight club well that would be very unethical this by the way is the missing like actually things you could make something interesting happen even with how shit they are if you had a cross some guy could be like so Mr. Wong you describe the action as forced to a creature that at will four times the size of you how exactly did you force Mr. Wong to have it Wong is very strong so this is telling arguments this is something that it'll become clearer as we go forward so one of the really fun aspects of pretty much any law show is the adversarial component of it right the back and forth the arguments being put on one side and getting battered down by the other it is called the adversarial system for a reason like that is the major component of it you've got two sides you've got to be ready for that position and ideally if they're arguing well enough the back and forth will lead us to some sort of conclusion the really fun part of watching like a law show is seeing the back and forth when things go well for you know your protagonist and then their setbacks and then they've got to come up with creative solutions or like dive into the statutes or case law to try and develop a solution to the problem that's like the fun part of law shows this show doesn't really have any like back and forth at all it's feeble it's fun it's not like because watching some people argue skillfully is entertainment of a different kind than this show is trying to be entertainment like it's a much more high brow form of entertainment to watch like a debate in a discussion unfold between two competent people if you want to because I guess we'll jump ahead a bit Jennifer Walters takes the stand to basically later on to say that Bacowski is like he's such an idiot that he would believe that he was dating Megan Thee Stallion it's meant to be like played off as funny but there's no cross-examination we don't get to see that why would we forego the opportunity to see like the cross-examination that would be interesting exactly because he's facing the microphone now I've been playing my video game I so of course we have and you know that's one aspect that you can explore in a legal show the other one as well is to just address interesting meaningful questions about the law and especially when you've got Chee Hawker at superhuman people it's what was mentioned before like in the cross-examination imagine a lawyer it's like what does it mean to coerce somebody who can turn into like a giant like incredibly powerful monster what does it mean to coerce that person into doing something for you is that a threshold that can be reached because a lot of aspects of law is like is it reasonable to believe this happened based on all of the information we have like what was the person's state of mind was it reasonable to believe that that was their state of mind given you know these circumstances that they were in like you can explore that in a very interesting way when you've got people who just have innately different attributes to like the average person because of superhuman abilities but like there's no interest in exploring any of that they don't care like there's no passion there they actually don't care they're focused entirely on different things there's no reason that this needed to have any law component to it it almost feels obligatory that there is a law component to this show man when in Dead Evil it's a great scene I think it's in episode 3 Matt is defending a guy who was involved like in the Wilson Fist like Kingpin stuff and he's defending him because he killed the guy in a bowling alley but there was nobody who actually saw directly what happened and so the argument that the guy wants to put forth is that the thing that nobody saw was that he got attacked and he fought in self defense I can't remember I'm pretty sure that was definitely not what happened but like you know like there was no information to the contrary and Matt goes on a lengthy awesome speech just talking about essentially distilling his perspective on the law and questions of law and like what are the questions and matters of facts that are discussed in a courtroom versus the personal judgments and like moral judgments that society would make of an individual and that's like his closing statement is essentially like this is a courtroom what matters is the facts beyond these walls my client may face a jury of his own it's the potent shit man like god damn it that's ugh and they're missing out on the stuff that they are cheating to get to they don't even want to grab the opportunities we've taught this before when you aren't paying attention you do indeed miss out on all the contradictions of you just rushing to get your payoffs but you're also missing out on opportunities you don't even realize what you don't get to take advantage of you don't know what's there I've said it a few times because I think that it's such a clear example of like a meaningful one what if you had a guy who was like a Captain America type had Captain America attributes who like killed somebody who was like attacking him what does it mean for escalation of force for somebody who's that powerful what does it mean for like real apprehension of like fear of loss of life for that person depending on you know what weapons the other person had or like was the Captain Marvel deleted scene yeah I mean that that could certainly be a case that's interesting like this is really cool stuff to explore because it's something that a lot of other lore shows are just not going to be able to touch on because they don't have superhuman characters like in that you know they're sent into the contemporary normal world you've got an opportunity you squandered it what was the regular scene now because I'm like because the deleted scene was where she outright attacks him right yeah I think the regular scene was just he drives in gets off his bike goes inside and she just takes it because they recognized they'd be fucking insane to keep it canon that electrocuted this guy sorry that's interesting let's move on we're about to get to that fucking cringe ass line fine which one? I know right you realize you just admitted to a prisoner escape but that's a crime and then Wong is just like oh buy an exits with a portal so it's over for Wong Wong Marvel Studios it's gonna be about Wong's life on the run from justice yeah from international justice so it was done it twice right it's done the thing where it acknowledges it acknowledges the lore but doesn't want to deal with the consequences of it because we had it with the elfin court impersonating the judge now we've had it with Wong this one's much more cataclysmic though Wong lives in America he lives in New York and I guess we'll get to that yeah like it's over for Wong well yeah all we need to tell the precious EFAP audience is that it is official Wong is now an American fugitive kinda nuts but obviously you'd think they didn't even verify anything and he's just ran off so can this really help Blonski? the answer is yes it actually works it gets him his parole which he never should have been eligible for wait did we mention that he actually turns into abomination and Jennifer's argument is ah he could have broken out but he didn't it's like what is the point of this cell to be honest with you dude I just don't think it really none of it like I think it's just a false way of getting some like constructed drama right I think they want a trailer footage of that reasonably speaking you know the meal he might be that he's lying about all of this and so he's calculating it all no way he turns into abomination without requesting getting it approved no way why would he risk that ruining everything secondly him turning into abomination freaks them all the fuck out they all think he's about to kill them isn't he in his little cell the point of the cell I guess the cell doesn't have that point it's useful at all well yeah because we get that confirmed as you just mentioned part of Jen's argument is he could have escaped at any time it's like well no you've got him trapped in an abomination proof cage haven't you and it's like no they don't so what the fuck this whole time you was just like hoping he wouldn't run away yeah why would Jen even need to prove that shouldn't they know that yeah and also I mean by the way shouldn't he be in the like shouldn't she put him in the right like rather than here I guess we've given up we've given up on everything it's absolutely baffling this whole scene she's like guys this proves that he could have escaped at any point it's like they would know that otherwise you're telling that this was the moment they realized the cage couldn't hold him and they realized that because he turned into abomination even though he was brought to prison as abomination right I don't understand any of this fucking weird but it's framed and filmed and presented as like a dramatic moment that actually works out for our protagonist I guess it's meant to show how quick she is on her feet that she could come up with this argument even though it's like it doesn't work I didn't I honestly didn't even get that impression at all as well because I know what you're talking about and I think you're absolutely right because of the way he holds herself and I don't blame the actress this is something that they would have had to do I guess but she literally goes I've got her written down as a note she goes I beg you to Mr. Blonski he didn't mean to wait in fact this means he could have escaped when it and I was just like it took way too long to make use of this I did yeah this show is really bad guys um no yeah so I don't believe that Blonski would have decided to do it I don't believe that uh it would have taken that long to spin it positively I think it makes no sense so that's the like plot-wise that's the way anything would be built this way it's all fucking weird and yeah and then it just gets topped off with abandoning the whole system of justice yeah except for that episode when he needs to learn hey what I want to jump the head soon we're almost there don't worry it's really good high security present so um yeah the oh there's a line um when she's leaving I was about to mention that I was I thought you would skip it go ahead yeah well they try to ask you like random me questions and stuff and one of them says any comment on getting your powers from a mafia hit gone wrong that's so fucking stupid why well isn't that isn't it the comic origin is I don't know I just found it really retarded I'm pretty sure it's a reference to the comic origin I thought that's what uh why they got injured in the first place it was a mafia hit okay I don't know that yeah so I want to just say because of the comics I'll say comic origin yeah okay yeah yeah well this is what I mean I that's what I what I heard that because I do I must have heard it from Gary or somebody at some point but I remember thinking like why are you doing that why do you always do this I thought it would be funny again with like a weird thing but I get as we had talked about the origin in the show is like missing the potency that exists in the origin of the comic of giving like Hulk Bruce Banner the choice of whether to give her the transfusion to make the choice to essentially save her life but saddle her yeah with our what might well turn out to be a curse sounds really cool it certainly sounds better than what we got which is that a ship appears in front of her and she swerves in the worst possible way to cause a car accident and then cuts herself climbing out of the door and then some blood seeps into her arm so lame that is a very lame so anyway like obviously her side is done so and so she's in a bar now just trying to chill out and she's like hopefully my life can get back to normal which by the way I will say Legales is a name for a bar I like that that's kind of neat that's like one of the few things I have to say I like the name of the bar that I go to there's someone I'm gonna compliment at the beginning of episode 4 so don't worry guys there'll be compliments we'll get there eventually don't worry guys so their friend sits next to them and well they do banter for a little bit about random shit I don't really care to have a comment just talk about how shit Dennis is I was talking about the other banter but anyway yeah so you have this oh there was another banter I didn't even write that down you're pregnant with the nominations baby I don't care I wanted to write that down yeah he sits down next to me the case with Dennis and then you get this where she looks at the screen and says connecting the A and B story nice I really hate it I really hate it you're getting your own writing and it's not even like a real connection he just shows up at the bar like that you all go to exactly it's not clever at all and they're patting themselves on the back for this what the fuck what are you doing oh cringy oh oh enough anyway he's like how did you work with him for so long and then they explain like how much he sucks and she says it's amazing how he was convinced that uh he had a crush on him when he obviously didn't and then he goes wait a minute would you be willing to say that under oath it's like yeah so the idea here is that she testifies to the court that Dennis is a fucking moron that's their plan yeah and uh yeah as we've said there are so many other ways to definitively prove this but all of them are awful lawyers so they just win by making it a matter of fact that the client is a fucking idiot and so this makes sense the accuracy of males in the Marvel Cinematic Universe becomes a plot point yet again well of course you've got the much simpler answer which is do you think it is more reasonable that he should have concluded that he was dating a shape-shifting elf from New Asgard that it was possible if he was dating the real person no convince me you're a fucking idiot you as gone for alien the ship-shifting alien like you should have just assumed that was the case yeah idiot yeah you know what world you're in I mean as we yeah it just really started begging for the questions like why do we why did we make an extra law division for superhuman scenarios when we don't do anything right into the cases you're right like the superhuman aspect is not critical to questions of the law it's only it's only separate level they just happen to have superhuman people in these cases and they don't do anything they don't have to redefine any terms or have to think about things you already said for example is like what it's just normal lawyers could have done that impressive in these cases for some of them yeah like it's just normal but you've got superhuman people involved that's it he says your opinion Miss Walters do you believe or do you think that Dennis would believe that he could actually pull Megan the stallion and she says yes he's incredibly deluded and entitled he's definitely capable of believing you can pull her all I learned from that interaction is that Dennis is kind of a Chad and that he'll go for a he'll go for an 11 out of 10 even if he thinks that there's the slightest chance and he'll even try he'll believe it himself it's not all that I told from this after a Grammy yeah like a super successful what Grammy award-winning singer like they're making fun of the man for thinking that he would ever have a chance with a woman that's so awesome just like fuck it it's good to have confidence yeah by the way I remember I saw someone on Twitter say that the way that they keep referring to Megan the stallion reminded them of like an episode of The Simpsons with Tony Hawk in it where they just kept calling him Tony Hawk they never even just call him Tony it was always the full name like it was always like when The Simpsons got to make sure references that would always be like and then the name of the celebrity like when you have the rights to a song and you just have to play it over and over and over again so you think you got your money's worth hey look it's Tony Hawk is that world famous like Tony Hawk the skateboarding champion like it really feels that way yeah they win the case yeah no proper examinations so what is making his gospel I guess I believe you that this man is a retard you win that's literally how it concludes it also just shows how kind of like just how cruel these people are yes I don't like any of this I don't like any of them Dennis does call women it because he is a caricature like that whole just see that's different than saying Dennis sucks because he's confident enough to believe that he could date someone like okay Jesus Christ what are you suggesting just a tad mean spirited it's the thing that it's just really mean to do is just like you should know you're laid you should know you're too ugly and this is like alright man jeez you more like Dennis than Jen you more like Dennis but yeah we also then he gets sentenced the defendant to 60 days for impersonating a judge yeah 60 days for impersonating a judge 60 days probably more than that we'll call that first of all second of all that would not have been sorted out in this case that's not even how that works at all that would have been a whole new thing yeah these are different right has to be a simple proceeding that would be the people versus elf lady right for impersonating a judge versus elf lady yeah as everyone in chat is going on just like yeah the 60 days thing I know I'm no lawyer what else can you say it's beyond contempt of court my friend this is like you're trying to do very bad things I don't even this is the thing I've never even had to think about the idea of what would happen if you impersonate just like not good things very bad things probably horrible terrible things would happen to you that's the sort of thing that I feel like they'd want to very actively discourage you doing it because he says I sentenced you to 60 days it's like where you know just say I sentenced you for 60 days it's like where where do you send it go it's right there in the chair no she might just shape shift and you never find her that's right so it turns out in this very small room not going to lie Megan the stallion is just there checking out wait a minute she's not there on this shot wow that's terrible Megan the stallion is very very stealthy logistically speaking shouldn't she be in the corner but there wait do you see like a very bright suit thingy I mean she's hard she's pretty hard to miss kind of like why this was I thought you were maybe she was just out of frame I'm trying to see so that's the ends of the the seats there okay yeah this is not who was sitting this is a different set of people now oh at the back yeah okay so let me compare that with the other image and their defense they only have Marvel money yeah it's not much it's not that much money look out for copyright no I don't dare I for a moment Disney still does want to claim responsibility for this yes oh no she's definitely not there I think I just saw another short yeah I just almost have it I think people don't know Megan the stallion want to sewer it's like I guess she might want to cause yeah there was the whole you stole somebody's identity right like we're only talking about what happened to Dennis but there was also the fact that you stole you know just like there's another matter which that would be like a matter of factors and there's there's another legal case right like what does it mean for like somebody as a shapeshifter like steal somebody's identity like you know like how much of a right in terms of ownership of identity and how does it apply if like I guess if they want to claim in the relationship that it was part of their like role play or whatever like how does that factor into it there's no no we're not interested in exploring that just to clarify this lady by here you can see her in the Megan the stallion shot logistically Megan should be here so she's not not there that's this that's where she should be but she is just isn't yeah quality meme the whole knowing is that you can't go frame by frame backwards in VLC can you not go frame forward I haven't found the button yet maybe I'll see doesn't want you to live in the past that's that's nice of you let's see and then he says do you guys think I have a real shot with Megan the stallion they're like don't don't you do that Dennis like hey let's try but let him take it out on a date see if that some girls are into that I guess I don't know and then yeah and then he says that then it says like probably the smartest thing out of everybody ever in this entire show is like I wish there was a way we could remove her powers and make sure she doesn't victimize anyone else it's just like you understand this is why we keep talking about the repercussions of introducing these things to the entire world the legal system is going to want to have a say about them because you are just able to hurt people in ways that can't even be detected necessarily like it just they needs to be controlled over it it's funny I'm saying all of this because I'm thinking about episode 4 it's like chat you have no idea how could you not think of episode 4 it looms over us like a fucking thunder cloud not going to believe what happens in episode 4 yeah told you episode 1 and 2 those were the good ones yeah it's often times how it works with these shows I knew it once like 5 people start to realize that the show is terrible before instead of 2 months after it comes out so then they say Blonski does indeed get his parole but he has to wear an inhibitor and if he breaches it he has to go back to prison yeah I thought that was we know in the trailer that he does so I guess I thought that was interesting because I don't know that they have that's necessarily something they should be able to do because who knows what it means for his health no how do they condition to know that you could inhibit him without causing some serious damage to his health yeah surely they need that to be proven first and then of course like isn't the whole point that he's absolutely in full control over it so if it's something that causes him pain to not be in at certain points like how do they have they ruled out the fact that he needs to return to the abomination form you know once per whatever if we wanted to get real interesting like we think about someone like Jennifer Walter's She-Hulk is that should she have the right to be able to like is it her right to be able to essentially have that level of degree of control what does it mean for abomination for instance like if this is an aspect of him is this an aspect of him that is immutable and therefore shouldn't be restricted in any way like in terms of legal rights and stuff like yeah it's but we're not gonna talk about that because it's not relevant and we know that he's gonna breach his parole conditions anyway because it's in the trailer so I guess he's are yeah so yeah that's that they will return to Blonski another time I presume I don't care about her interview on TV at all unless there's anything you guys wanted to say about it Jennifer Walter's She-Hulk is a stupid name yeah yeah fuck you Stan because I want to talk about the really dumbest fuck scene ends this well technically this isn't the last thing we see but it's still one of the near the end and boy do they make the point obvious but it's just in line with the arc they're going for anyway she's heading toward I'm not even sure if it's a family house I think it is her house I don't know whatever she's attacked by some really goofy looking people very goofy looking people who have a very goofy plan that they carry out in a goofy way yes yeah I guess I'll summarize it first four dudes who have stolen an Asgardian construction workers tools attack her they all fail miserably because she's She-Hulk and just turns into She-Hulk and beats them all up one of them tries to inject something or looks like yeah doesn't work they all run away into their van and say yeah we couldn't couldn't get it because I couldn't get through her nasty skin and then and then they leave now this doesn't make a whole lot of sense so we're supposed to get from this pretty quickly these guys are attacking her to try and get her blood which is something that they you know in episode one when Bruce was like I have to destroy your blood because even there's a millionth of a percent of a chance that it could get out that would be catastrophic or whatever it's like okay so that's going to be a plot point then I think yeah it's just very focused on it's like so these dudes who are and they say they work for somebody so obviously we'll find out but trying to get her blood unfortunately they couldn't get it because She-Hulk's skin is too hard to breach which is probably something that we're being known with Hulk whether or not you know it if you're going to try and inject her the best time probably not going to be when she She-Hulk in fact yeah probably that first guy who sneaks up behind her and holds her should probably be the one with that syringe so that's a great idea instead that's what you think he grabs her nothing happens until she decides to do something you don't even have another guy run up and do the thing everyone's just sort of too far away to do anything and for some reason the part that really gets me about this is that they're surprised when she turns into She-Hulk when they want her blood because she's She-Hulk yeah so yeah just pro tip for anybody trying to get She-Hulk blood this dude right here on screen he's the one you're going to want to do the injection for because he gets the full on jump on here he can go boop pull the plunger and then jump and run out instead you give her all this time so that she can turn into her superhero form he off she goes oh boy look at this guy with the syringe he's like oh jeez it's like yeah I never would have expected this never would have thought so they're really stupid but then another part that I thought was kind of funny she throws a guy like fucking five meters into the air and he lands in a way of like neck? yeah kind of he kind of like lands on it and he just gets up straight away and walks off and just like oh yeah he's okay they should be fucked up but they're just like oh god it's a punch but she has no time well if they got fucked up that might have moral or legal ramifications that she might have to struggle with we're having fun here because remember She-Hulk appears to be about as strong as Hulk and look at what he does like look at the damage that Hulk can do and you're just like fighting and punching regular people like seemingly regular people anyway he fell so bad yeah that's uh he also got his head crushed into the other guy's head they're all fine they're all fine this is uh wrecking crew which this is like the team wrecking crew they'd be happy with them in this show they'd be happy with anything they ever do yeah well especially if like you're a fan of the Hulk part of Marvel what have you had what have you had so far in terms of like villains well because they bring it back the leader right the guy from the incredible Hulk but in Captain America not in Hulk so yeah yeah big brain guy I'm tired and then the show ends on this shot and again this is just because this is the point of the season that she doesn't want to have to be She-Hulk but she keeps having to be She-Hulk and eventually she'll come to love being She-Hulk yeah what a crisis oh yeah turns out it's literally it costs her nothing and it's only an advantage and virtually every way imaginable but she comes to appreciate that in the end I guess and that's the story god we're still gonna for a shit yeah we haven't done it yet there's a new one tomorrow are you excited this is why we've got to get covered this shit because I'm not doing the full night episodes of one fucking stream there's no way no the brain's not ready for that I'll do the new one tomorrow it's fine four years of EFAP has definitely not prepared me to cover She-Hulk at once did it prepare you for the Torquans? I'm sorry about this everyone that was my thumbnail oh god no yeah stick your ass out and shake it but remember here's the thing women can you could this is fun and it's great and we're having a good time here but dare a man ever even imply anything that is positively sexual about a woman then you will not ever hear the end of it in fact we will the first scene of our next episode might be somewhat related to that a lot of people are posting this scene back to back with the I've been cat called it's like maybe we're going to shake in your ass that might happen well I guess these aren't the same thing right like if somebody wants to dance versus like unwanted attention it's kind of like not related really this is unwanted attention I just find the scene well no not this right like if she's talking about getting cat called or something like while she's just walking around like that's different to just what dancing in our office I think hypersexualizing yourself in a public setting would probably give people the impression that you want to get some level of attention in that regard especially when it's given to you in a completely harmless way from people I would call public setting to the point where a boss sees it and has to walk away in awkward fashions you keep repeating this you keep letting this play it keeps going I got a torture everybody in chat we had to see this you touch on this cat much more than I touch on mine when I show this someone had to well it's as pointed out right some poor visual effects guy just do it what am I animating today I'm so excited to come into work what is my work what's my project for this week make she help twerk nah that was funny no what am I doing like no I'm serious okay hey I'm sure they had fun yeah alright I'll no if you used to do I'll be right back you're way more fun than my last lawyer I will kill for you Megan the stallion that's the episode which gives us number 4 previously on g-hulk ladies and gentlemen a second here you know what actually I wouldn't mind filling my drink back up so how about you guys discuss g-hulk attorney at law Mahler is going to go and acquire large quantities of alcohol before we delve into episode 4 which one is worse you reckon out of 3 and 4 I guess it would become clear about it's all done I feel like it's 4 yeah hmm I probably agree I'm just sort of thinking one thing I would reference well as soon as we see it I guess I'll say I'll remind you I think I was thinking of why this makes it so much worse than anything a 3 could have I'm going to write it down and then I'll reveal it once you say it I'm already back and I didn't know what was happening what was the question number score you made the one thing in particular that he's referencing for why it would make it worse than 3 alright yeah I'm actually because I feel like there's a few possible choices yeah that's why we're having fun guess and I'm writing it down so that once he says that I could clap that inner button alright I've got it written down what we'll do is we'll let him know that when he gets back he can say it what's the worst thing and then we could smack we could push the whopper button what are we writing down I was taking a pee when you decide we were briefly discussing if episode 3 or 4 is worse and Moeller and I think it's 4 and I think and Fringy thinks it's 4 as well and you seem to also agree there seems to be a unanimous decision on this panel on the council that 4 is worse than 3 and he was referring to something that he would refer to and so I said I think I know what you're referring to is what is the worst thing so I have written it down but I will not say it it's a reveal time I think that I would say that episode 4 was the show that kind of as frustrating as the show was being up to this point I think episode 4 was when I started thinking man this show was like incredibly vapid that too that's a lot of things in general though it does because it's got the same continued stupid absolutely ridiculous lore stuff but then there's also more character related stuff that is just I don't know I feel like it's building up a certain pattern of writing for the characters in the show this is a good opening really apparent I guess when I say vapid I say vapid in a different sense to how I guess she would describe the first three episodes I guess she said that those are like vapid in terms of their exploration of the lore but I guess I mean by episode 4 the show started to feel incredibly vapid like they don't have anything to say that this is almost just it feels hollow there's no like artistic sort of maybe there is and that's what the problem is that they think I think what I mean more so is that by episode 4 it felt like it was vapid in terms of its substance of what it was trying to say and do like one division finale or I guess let's put it this way I keep saying rings of power is really hollow and vacuous the reason why I say that is because I don't think that that show has anything to say at least I don't get that impression that there wasn't really an inspiration behind the story or as I think by episode 4 of She-Hulk it's like I see what you're trying to do and I find it really cynical seems like your objectives from a writing standpoint are they come across to me as really cynical so I think that's when it started to become more apparent to me was by the end of episode 4 yeah because it's kind of funny I know bits and bobs about the final episodes of rings of power in terms of what the some payoffs will be but for example I know nothing about Elfman and from the 3 episodes we have of him I have no clue what his story is supposed to be about like no clue it's rare for me to literally have nothing I don't know what in the world they want to tell me with this guy yeah I guess what I would mean is that with She-Hulk it feels a bit yeah it's like I see what you're going for I don't find it particularly interesting or deep I guess it doesn't even need to be deep but it's just the impression I got more so with episode 4 because I oh well I guess Rags you want to tell them all what you are what you were working on there we're having so much fun here I figure let's have even more fun we briefly began by asking if 3 or 4 was worse you said 4 Mahler and you alluded to alluding to something in particular and so I wrote down that thing I think you're referring to and I encourage the others to do that as well so when you say hit it I'm going to smash enter on our little chat here and we'll see if our answers line up as what is the worst thing because as Freaky pointed out there are many answers probably but I think I know which one you are referring to to give you a format it could be like one decision from one character or one establishing rule about the world or one you know one thing it'll be one thing that an event if one could say to cover all bases I think that covers every possible thing just in one thing that happens if you all grab up a guess yeah when we see it happen I'll say that's what it is and then we'll put everyone's guess as well I'll be interested anyway let us begin episode 4 the the the Hulk just 5 left after this one well just 5 only 5 more weeks woo we begin with the magician doing magician things and it's like what are we this guy I don't know and he's like are you not amazed by me summoning fire are you not it's attained is that why you're here good ol the daddy ate her he's like I I need a volunteer but this is this lady who the writers of this episode thought was hilarious he's Madison two ends and one why but it's not where you think she's the writer of this television show I could believe that so yeah he does a trick retains the color and flowers and roses he makes them go from white to red everyone's very impressed well actually the point is everyone doesn't give a shit so he's like mentors like do the thing do do do do the thing and he's like what if I do a little more like fiery things nobody well sorry I guess when he's it's rare that he even gets addressed to the fact that the portals big sparks it's just like what even is that by the way combustible you know anyway he pulls out a sling ring oh no and he makes a portal and it's like take it back whoa he has a sling ring exactly you've got a sling ring wow where where did you get that that will require an explanation I want to know it opens a portal to Dark Souls world yeah to a goblin dimension yeah there's like a head and a cage this is like a like some sort of a dark phantom cone in the barbarian demon land where the fuck is that I don't know but I guess he he wants you to go there he's a good little more on that in a second because it cuts away from that rise we don't know what happened there it's fine back to Catmandu we got little Wong he's watching Netflix he's filling out and portal opens and that same what are we going to say I'm going to say is our portals they should be prominent enough in this world now that people know what those are I guess right so when you go on stage and you pull out a sling ring you're like I guess when you introduce actual real magic into a world the job of the illusionist becomes a bit more complicated because magic doesn't exist in the real world so we have illusionists do the things that make us think you know that sort of thing but now is like oh magic is not only real it seems to be like a big thing right there's all these sorcerers and all kinds of people from other planets and stuff magic and sorcery and witchcraft seems to be real so that must make the job of the illusionist a bit more like oh but we have the real thing so coming to a show to watch you do these dumb things and then you pull out just like an actual magic that's like cheating yeah we'll probably have that discussion when they kind of almost bring that up in the court case but now we'll just yeah because we almost need the show to give its foundation to us first because this shit is so hard to swallow she just she portals into Wong's room holding a heart and honestly I think the closest this show has gone to gore it's kind of surprising yeah it is actually weird when I saw her with that I'm like holy fuck heart in your hand you're holding a heart in your hand nice white rug yeah I'd ask if she knows where that's been but I mean she probably does I mean where else do they normally go I suppose yeah you know last we saw her she was looking at the portal now she's here with a heart and she says what happened to all the goblins she's looking which is like what and then she said I grew up in Fort Lauderdale my dad lives in Phoenix with a new family I go there sometimes then Wong is like no no no no did a cut rate magician send you here you have no idea how many why would that be your first no idea how many problems that creates that he said already but we still don't have all the information it gets worse I suppose yeah we should go a little bit further he says no you didn't exactly send me sent me to a different dimension and a talking goat helped me escape a lava pit in exchange for six drops of my blood and then I kind of it was at this point I realized I wish the show was about the goat man and the drops of blood that would be a lot more interesting she also said she also says diff dimension because slang is funny or something so fun she's taking this all very well though I'm not sure how this is helping very drunk she doesn't realize what's happening apparently I think that's supposed to be the joke or something but still the reality is she's a random woman that that magician earlier sent to go into a lava world and she had to take her heart sacrifice parts of her blood and fight goblins or something sounds hilarious and send her back through a portal that also comes from a sling ring apparently people can just teleport into Wong's room the sorcerer supreme have we mentioned before that the portals create problems has that been a thing that we've alluded to potentially so yeah that's that's like a thing that happens and it's like there you go that's gonna be you know how is Jen gonna get involved and it's like I don't know why wow oh yeah and we start off with a fourth wall break she's like you look happy I guess you saw that Wong is back it's like he was all he lost episode did you change the episode I guess he could have just not come back after he fled as a fugitive from justice and we just don't know what happened to him after that it's just a bit weird to say Wong is back when the episode previously ended with him still it's not like he's been gone for a bit and he's back and that's why yeah because of how bonked this fucking show's order is I really could wonder if this was that they hadn't decided which would be Wong's first appearance by the way before we go here Wong straight up says Donnie Blaze is going to pay for this because she spoiled an episode of a Sopranos to him this is actually worth talking about yeah the reason he's upset because she inadvertently spoiled an episode of the Sopranos not that there's a rogue magician out there with a sling ring who is teleporting people into and out of demon dimensions and she never mentions the name Donnie Blaze so he knows who that person is which supports the line did a cut rate magicians and you exactly which just because his first impressions on the bullshit that's unfolding right in front of our eyes I mean that's enough to say that Wong is being eviscerated in his character it's insanity and we're not even to the worst of it but yeah just in case anybody's correctly following Wong is aware there is a man with a sling rings that's just sending people to demon dimension however that is not what compels him to take action no also I would like to just make sure everyone understands the magician is called Donnie Blaze not Johnny Blaze that was also cause yeah there was confusion and yeah there was confusion very obviously a reference and no you do not want them to ever bring in Johnny Blaze ever that's the ghostwriter guy right just so we're he's really cool they're gonna make him lame if they ever do bring him in they're gonna bring him in they'll do him again in a different way they wouldn't let the agents of shield guy be the definitive ghostwriter they're definitely gonna bring him in they'll definitely want him they'll want to make their midnight suns movie I imagine so they'll want him yeah he had a cameo in agents of shield I know he pinned up in that at some point but you know that if they were to bring him in the MCU they wouldn't care about that I still wonder if that show is canon I don't know the fact that it's even in doubt right isn't a good sign in terms of its status yeah kinda same with Daredevil people tend to like agents of shield right people do like agents of shield from what I understand certainly more than the pissed on shows from Netflix like uh Iron Pistons and Defenders so yeah there's I guess all the Wong is back and it's just like yes to be ruined again and again and again she's like god everyone loves Wong it's like giving the show twitter amma for a week which it doesn't but well no it's not working it's starting to uh it's flagging I disagree I think she's absolutely correct even to a T it does give the show amma for about a week sorry you might be right cause like it seems like they really like the Wong and Madison like team up as a thing they love it okay and people will then be like pretty shit though yeah having this line in here to me it's just like it's not fair the writers even know about all of this how everything works it's absolute sludge parade it's not fair my notes are obviously weak old from when I covered it and now they think about it oh yeah it actually did work because everyone was just talking about Madison and Wong and stuff and I was just like oh stop but it's the same this one will have a worse down form the rest of them people will be like god you have to admit though the phase 4 tv shows stinkers like everyone will be saying that it will I think it's gonna have a pretty the fact that it's received a negative response as it's coming out like that is a that is a departure from yeah well it's the same as Thor right and Thor is never recovering the reputation of Thor is not there's never gonna be a point where people like it was judged too harshly that has a permanently negative reputation and I think this one will too and then yeah by the end of phase 4 depending on how black panther pans out if that's you know however that's perceived like there will be a perception that phase 4 was the shit one I think that I think that's certain hey man I could too know that black panther 2 is like the best of phase 4 it probably I could easily say it being the best of the of them yeah I feel like it would be I guess it would be competition with no way home but like it would be surprising to me if it ended up being as flawed as as like a lot of this stuff but who knows thing as well you know like the whole you know some of the some of the things from phase 1 2 and 3 is like you kind of look back you know it wasn't so bad like I seriously can never think that would ever happen to something like Thor 11 Thunder or MOM I don't know how bad could things possibly get yeah that's good not kind of a thing I don't think we could ever see something in phase 5 or 6 that's so bad that I go man I miss MOM I guess war might stand a serious chance right because of like the scope of that film is going to be insane I still think I might categorize it alongside MOM rather than worse right like there's never anything that makes you go man multi person madness we were good yeah no way yeah yeah I hate it but yeah here comes we're close to the one thing I like in the four episodes I think the dad just pops in he's like good morning yay dad what are you doing here well after the scare you had I'm here to beef up your security and I was like awww what a good boy what a nice dad he cares about his daughter even though she's she-hulk you don't care he's looking after his daughter even though she's a total cunt dad what a good dad yeah like that's tight a bit and then you get he's got new locks cameras and alarm system and even pepper spray what's the shovel for he's just digging holes like it's the it's the only joke I was like you know what I'm okay with that I enjoy the implication that this father is a loving kindly gentleman who if push comes to shove has a shovel yeah like that's what I got from this the impression kind of just like if they need to kill anybody as a result of the attack I guess we can we can bury them a father will kill for his daughter this visual kind of makes it work for me as well just the way he's holding and just staring at it centered yeah that works for me this matter of fact is it's shovel for digging you know how you dig yeah one one point good job never again I will say there is a detraction of points from the scene because Jen is in it you know that yes he says what do the police say and she said oh they said police stuff and he goes you didn't call them you serious that she says I was a prosecutor long enough to know that they're not going to catch those guys like because that's the only reason why you talk to the police if a crime has been committed is the likelihood of the perpetrators being caught as a lawyer that's something that you should definitely also though they have crazy as guardian weapons so you know what I think they're going to dedicate some resources to tracking these guys down you need to let them know this is a thing that happened to report the fucking crime Jen yeah what if they attacked someone else it's not all about you yeah is it weird that they are trying to get your blood that's weird yeah you should probably let us know about that but oh I guess he's uncontactable right because he's in a different he's in a different solar system he contacted him while he was in a different solar system didn't she wow maybe I guess I guess he has his telephone tower on his ship I don't fucking know how that works though if he was in space period I feel like you might you might probably yeah out of range talking to someone in space sci-fi you you lose remember the Blackberry the Captain Marvel Blackberry that can contact her anywhere in the universe oh that's right of course it's like the stormtrooper 1977 dude that was so funny if Yuri was like I need your help Captain Marvel please return to earth and then she looks like she's literally just a bazillion million million million everything's away and she's like right better get going she goes at light speed and doesn't spin up at earth for like 10 trillion like a million of years I just thought unless she does the jobs it's like James Gunn was the only person with a brain who when we're supposed to certainly when we get into like the universal cosmic stuff because the portal jumping jump point things yeah that makes that actually works you can't have it so that you just go at light speed we went over this this is 2018 shit right oh my the Captain Marvel light speed shit traveling that like we've cracked the ultimate traveling technology the light speed engine it's like why are you kidding me please tell me anyway it's cute that you think that yeah she doesn't feel like reporting it whatever it's fine get over it move on I don't even know why they threw that in there just to let us know that I guess there's nothing else to that part I don't know hmm oh interesting I didn't even notice so she's got like a day plan and it's enormous it's like a fuck ton of stuff on it enormous list because she's very busy I imagine finalize Blonsky Blonsky injunction prepare guidance language for Blonsky inhibitor what I don't know that's how the inhibitor works or maybe in the the stipulation of the legality of it as it's written on paper in terms to his use of the inhibitor um order highlighters from supply clerk edit to do list meet Nikki in the bathroom okay schedule summer associate interviews schedule summer associate outings meet Nikki in the bathroom finish runa paperwork with that's not even your case I guess if you kind of help out I don't know buy and read how to make friends and influence people and then it goes so fast it's going to be tough to read it yeah sign up for big and tall membership him meet Holloway enter billables expensive follow up with Blonsky soulmates oh that's very uh just trying to see if there's anything no I'm just trying to see if there's anything worth mentioning drink more water that's good cause that is good actually drink more and plus who knows how wash down all the bitch right how much water do you need to drink to be well hydrated all of it how could this possibly be one day well I mean there's a lot of useless useless shit on there so like meeting someone on the toilet but you mean like stuff that would happen pretty quickly but I mean still there's like a like a thousand entries or some bullshit very busy coffee date find direct contact for Wong yeah that's probably a good idea the Janssen class action finish dating profile and guess what thing she decides to do today yeah she does it very quickly it's very it's really quick it in no way seems why couldn't you just screen cap someone doing it and then just put that on there because this looks fucking fake as shit well I guess matcher is a made up thing for that right I guess it relies on a swiping right and left though knowing what that means interest a comedy cooking music yoga animals and dancing animals see I told you I told you take a bitch to the zoo there's another QR code as well you gotta do it this is your you've made this your thing you said a horrific precedent that you have to now scan all the QR codes I'll take my I'll take my my file here and get that QR code for you lads that's that's okay awesome yeah they play in the interview it's like how did you name she Hulk and then as they're watching TV just burst into the office again yeah it's like hello hi privacy is literally not a concept that I understand and there are no boundaries when you can teleport and I do not respect yours and I'm long since we've got actually a chunk of context for long if you're like wait why is he here and he's legit like I'm having an issue with magician I put magician in quotations yeah also the QR code is the same on this the other one oh that's lame and she's like I did yes and he goes because he's not an actual magician you see again why are you making him so stupid yeah mm-hmm this Charlotte said goes by the day but don't it blaze the very upset about him seemingly because of the fact that he's like showing off not because he's abusing his power you know sent a woman to a deep dimension where she could have died yeah and he's like he's fucking around in cometars and he got booted out and it's like ah why does he have a sling ring here is where I was like okay this is an absolute catastrophe yeah the information we got here what are we doing yeah this was this I don't even know like if we go one by one because like it's just he just establishes this dude failed like the training at cometars but just decided to fuck off and he has access to that was a couple days right like three days I think he says a week maybe one thing they expelled him which seems like I don't know man that doesn't seem like you would just expel someone with like magical training after a few days because they did something bad right well he teleported into frat friends and three keks of something to drink and had a party in cometars that doesn't sound really malicious or bad at all that sounds like something that probably happens fairly often I would imagine with the new recruits let's keep the sling ring yeah that's the biggest the biggest issue they don't even say he stole a sling ring no they don't even mention it and we know it's a thing we saw it yeah and even worse in this scene he makes sure to mention wong does oh this is very dangerous to humanity and even risks untangling the material and astral planes then why the fuck does he still have a fucking sling ring what are you doing wong why are you in the office supreme and not doing shit exactly why are you fucking around with this attorney you need to go there now move him of his sling ring wong has no respect for the law so I don't know why this is the big realisation of this scene he found out about all of the context for all of this and decided I'm gonna go to gen walters to solve this what rather than just go for the first time at least in the blondsky episode he's being asked to stand as a witness to help a case that's him being drawn into the law not so many really cares to do but he's like okay I'll help out a friend or whatever this is him saying I must get the law in order to stop this guy like what no and I guess to address that so what he wants to do is he wants to establish a precedent that no one licensed people can like practice the mystic arts so many questions from this wait that's not yet just after the one the thing I want to establish is he says in no uncertain terms volunteers into other dimension for fun other dimensions so at first you may have been able to get away with saying he just knew that that was something Donny could have done and that this was the first time he had it confirmed or something but it seems to confirm that he knows that Donny has been doing this for some time or some time exactly this is unacceptable supported by the earlier scene we're just like oh was that some cut cut something I forgot the term magician who did this and then also says Donny lays his name so fuck me long has known about this for some time that innocent people of getting thrown into other realms and demand he said other realms dude stop switching the fucking descriptions I don't know what you're talking about realms, divensions, universe someplace else it's somewhere you know and now he wants to establish the precedent but no one licensed people can practice the mystic art so many questions is this not covered by the accords we don't talk about that this is the world building buffet we didn't take no accords no accords on our plate no accords second of all I feel like there's way more pressing important things like for instance sending this Madison to a different dimension with demons in it that's a crime not a crime that could be clearly delineated under any existing legislation but that's like assault gross negligence like reckless endangerment like many many different things that you could get in for like criminal charges putting people's lives in danger and that's really important to you third though creating a precedent in just California it doesn't really fix your problem he could just go to a different state he could go to a tree is there no anything for this in the history of Camartage did the ancient one never consider is Wong never spoken to anybody about this or Doctor Strange how the sorcerers entangle with the law have they ever thought about this Madison volunteered to go to a hell dimension to make a deal with a goat man what could you say where is the goat man is that even she volunteered magic sure but that doesn't mean that she volunteered to get sent to a hell dimension that's what I'm suggesting it's it's too too much to say the least is too much you're hurting my brain with all of this crazy shit all at once and what does it mean by the way you have a license to practice sorcery oh man I went on a whole thing like Wong decides virtually on a whim that we need to get the governments of the world involved in legalization of sorcery and magical practice and execution well good luck Wong do you have any fucking clue the can of worms that you are about to open on virtually a whim because someone spoiled the TV show for you you fucking loon just think about this as well it's like yes I want to establish this not through legislation like on a federal level or you know I guess if you want to do something globally with the United Nations or whatever no I'm going to establish it through a cease and desist in California state law like what it's baffling fantastic and by the way Jen's entertaining all of this she's like how do we make this work well you're going to need it so that you have like an agreement with these people and you teach them your sorcery you have like a contract instead of just being like Wong you sound insane like actually fucking deranged yeah like and I can't believe that my brain is like where's where's Steven bring him in he might be able to actually help at this point you know he's crazy like whatever everyone's so fucking nuts in this universe I can't take it Steven would just go to this fucking guy and say give me the sling ring chop your hands off I wonder to disappear it the first person was put in danger you know like white yeah so um it doesn't stop no it doesn't stop this ride never ends oh man this whole scene is thick it's like every fucking sentence makes problems the point is made by Jen like oh there was no like contractual agreement or anything like that you got him to agree to when you train him and it's like so the problem yeah the problem is you've opened a can of worms um magic probably should be something that's governed by legislation at this point considering how I mean considering how powerful it is that you can like summon monsters and create portals like just the portals alone would demand some sort of like legal addressing by by governments around the world that's what this show should have been about yeah yeah it probably should have been um but that they want to they want this episode to be one and done um and you can't do one and done we're talking about countries all around the world figuring out how to legislate the use of a breadth of supernatural abilities that are incredibly powerful back in dark strange one they benefit from basically being like we're a hidden organization nobody knows about this shit and we fight supernatural beings often in other dimensions like you okay you better even that I'll go as far as saying even that is still hard to keep under wraps forever it's like Wakanda it's like I don't believe you could have kept that secret forever uh and to be fair they admit they didn't there's several people found out about it but that's a whole other thing I'm just trying to suggest that like when you just go no the whole world's aware of it now but nobody cares it's like uh it's so uh yeah she says this is the American legal system no judge will take this seriously unless we do things by the book and then he says oh god oh the book of vishanti I hate that line so much dude so now we're just gonna go ahead go for it so the joke is that one who at some point was a very smart character in this universe things that the book of vishanti is a human guideline to the law I don't even I genuinely when she says we gotta do like a whole thing by the book I don't know what's going through his head when he says oh the book of vishanti does the book of vishanti guide you all like to tell me does it guide you through navigating like navigating the American legal system so he doesn't understand that humans abide by a legal system that was created by humans he is a human being exactly the book of vishanti doesn't exist anymore buddy there's a residence in New York he's American well maybe not an American he was born on earth he was raised as a human he knows what the law is what is this but here's the thing even if I would accept that he's that fucking stupid how would you how would they build a legal system from a book that does magic one two strange thought up until mom was a legend dr strange didn't know about it this is a book that is unique to all of the multi was unique to all of the multiverse yes how the fuck should a normal human being remotely connected to a shield or avengers even know about this fucking book this doesn't make any fucking sense at all she has no idea what the book of vishanti is and he says it like oh the book of vishanti like ah yes we agree it's like why would she know what that is wong why is that something she would have had this is what I mean you need that character to just be like wong you mean the book that has nothing to do with the law that has nobody has access to at all until last week where you got it destroyed why are you talking about wong like what is wrong with your brain I would he ever it's just stupid it's not it's a joke that it only exists in service of a joke that isn't very good wong has always been a say funny line character yalla like yalla whack so wait I'm happy to concede several lines from him have been funny this is not funny this is just absolutely braided personality destroys so many things god damn it wong was character is pretty hardcore to just be absolutely by the book almost to the point of stuffy like stale librarian man yeah by the book of vishanti and then you have him bouncing off strange who is like a go get a sort of smug asshole type who's trying to poke a wong all the time to get him to laugh and there's a big payoff in stock strange one where he finally tells a joke that wong laughs at right at the end it's fun and then you see they get to hang out infinity wall for like five seconds they seem to have pretty good chemistry then they hang out again and say like one line to each other in an endgame that's nice and then it's MOM right that's like their total screen time together and then that's the wong you just sort of comes up in everyone's shows just going hello i'm wong wong's music taste is a good joke yeah he listens to like Beyonce at some point right oh yeah he does this is why people like wong because he's super chill he works hard fun i like wong when i first come to watch and so this is really really fucking annoying yeah because i remember seeing this line in the trailer and i was like oh that's weird why would he say that and now with all the context we had providers like jesus christ what have we done what have you done i've done nothing in your crimes this episode is a catastrophe i really fucking hate this episode yeah this one hurts really bad we're not even like a hypo cringe yet the joke is him not understanding the phrase by the book he just assumes the book is vishanti why would he assume it's the why didn't he say do things by the dark hold then i guess or like any book what do you mean he doesn't understand the phrase by the book what do you think that means i don't even think you need to be taught what that means to know what that means yeah and also because she was talking the one sentence before she said that's not going to like work in the american justice system he's talking about like america and the american legal system stop defending it stop it it's okay they're allowed to try so anyway yeah she says no the book of american law is you fucking idiot and throws him out the building because of course he's insane he doesn't deal with this at all but yeah you know we've spoken a few seconds of wang in this scene so why not do something else stupid she's like i need your information and so he gives her a fucking note that just says wang on it that i'm the sorcerer supreme at this point he's turned into like an egomaniacal jackass as well he's so mad he's mad he picks up the card and then he goes cheap human tricks as though what he just did with the card is like akin to what humans do with magic and it's like bro you are human why does this show believe he's from like fucking bars what's going on they keep forgetting that these characters who are humans with superpowers are still like humans they've been raised here somewhere they're like even though they've got this crazy superhuman stuff going on they're like very normal real people with real problems it's like one of the big core like binding marble things with a lot of their characters yeah i wasn't intending to spend a lot of time on it but like what were they thinking before with i need your information so he provides her a note that just has his name on it that she knows already like i know you i know you're the sorcerer supreme this doesn't help me you might think if you're being generous oh is that the joke that he's like oh yeah here you go i'm helping you out and it's like i don't know the show's aware of that she asks for it he provides it then that's it there's no like no no no i need you he's gone you know that sort of it's just long sorcerer supreme maybe you're thinking as i joked earlier is his number on the back the answer is no nah it's just really worthless just tells us stuff she already knows the literal joke in the first doctor strange movies that he's a normal guy not anymore he's an alien now he doesn't understand humans customs but i hate it so much why how long till doctor strange is an alien this is the pain dimension the dimension of pain you need to uphold america's laws oh america chavez yeah i could see them doing that america chavez she would make a wonderful kind compassionate and wisery of the land and yeah by the way i guess we kind of touched on it but shanti just bringing it up at all it just won't even know your body destroyed well destroyed but what did you probably wouldn't want to tell him right embarrassing it'd be quite embarrassing it's like you destroyed why did you like you ran to it as soon as you saw it right i mean i definitely want to yeah he says yes it's like you're lying to me oh dude i'm already imagining like wander you know she's on her redemption just trying to get back in the good good times with the other heroes and so she's there when this conversation is happening so she knows what happened and doctor strange is looking at her like don't say anything and she's like i mean i feel kind of guilty about it i feel like we should be honest and doctor strange like don't okay don't and she's like okay all right fine jeez don't want everyone to know much of a fucking failure i am okay okay oh man it's not preferable but yeah he leaves angrily because couldn't have to deal with this you know yet have to stop all these rate magicians showing off with stuff that he taught them how to do it doesn't matter of course that he's sending innocent people into that's fine that is acceptable then we get this in the little bar they've got their drinks and their booklets out and they're doing some legal stuff and some guy comes in he says excuse me ladies i hate to see two stunning women sitting all alone and she goes oh well there's two of us so by definition not alone he goes can i buy you sexy ladies around a drinks okay so we're clearly in the middle of work when you change your mind i'll be at the bar walks off and then she says see that guy is exactly why i don't date i hate it i hate it what was wrong with what he just did you are not allowed to even like fucking look at a woman or that's the thing i don't understand where this mindset comes from that like whenever a man approaches a woman and attempts to woo her that's like a terrible negative awful thing that needs to be stopped it boggles the mind i have no clue it took that L like a fucking champion well because he sensed when he was not he could tell in the conversation that he wasn't really wanted but he still left the door open for later in case they were interested and he left without issue and he's a presentable guy he looks really good for his age he's handsome he's got his leather jacket on he approaches them compliments their attractiveness and he's gross they imply he's a gross guy cause he called you sexy i'm sorry i didn't mean to offend you yeah that must be really rough no one will ever know how much you sacrificed i'm sure yeah i thought it was really lame you're in a bar you're having drinks some guy just says like do you want some more company and you go eugh eugh i mean top two buy a melloid melloid someone in chat just said what does it even have to do with the episode really just doing that to that guy it's like not really anything oh i was gonna say like themes of the show the whole thing the whole speech at the end about power and responsibility and you're willing to fuck that i wouldn't be surprised she just kills a few people before the show ends i'm surprised those guys that attacked her that's the thing well they want to bring him back to have more fights i imagine cause it's fun they're really fun but yeah she's like you need to use your she-hulkiness to help yourself get a date and she's like no jen i'm using jen jen is jen jen jen i'm jen jen will be the one that gets the date hmm interesting then she gets one right was it here? i don't think that's yet she's deciding in this moment gonna be jen that gets the date she-hulk is the different thing she-hulk is the office stuff that's what she's decided now see again it's all it's all happening they're doing pieces of what appears to be work in terms of this arc she's now decided that yeah okay it went from i won't be she-hulk to she-hulk is my work and of course now she-hulk is gonna bleed into her dating and eventually she-hulk is just gonna be everything so um get ready for that so we have this part where they're at the magicians place of work i guess wang and jen and they're like this is an official warning to cease all practices of the mystic arts and he says that's absurd you can't own magic you can't trademark a spirit register a soul copyright art and she says you can copyright art yes do you know what i find interesting about that statement depending on how you interpret it they're both correct yes you can copyright pieces of art you can't copyright the concept of art though yes and that actually is more relevant to what he's talking about because what wang wants is to copyright sorcery casting spells wang is starting ownership over the capacity to do this yeah which he can't do that it's not his in the same way that yeah the concept of art or performing artwork is not something you can copyright you can't copyright reacting to things fucking remember that fine friends yeah fine brothers but you can't copyright your reaction to a thing of course it's kind of like the nature of like why is this the case why is the case not to do with the fact that he nearly killed someone by sending a through a portal to a hell dimension absolutely yeah you could destroy this man's life easily by doing that and to be honest with you he should have his life destroyed for doing that shit well i mean it's incredibly dangerous he's putting lots of people's lives in serious danger just to get like an audience's applause so he's a jerk like he's a completely asshole fringy it was to see the look on their faces ah right it's all worth it for the craft you know to impress the audience and make them believe for even a moment that magic is real even though it is real oh yeah i guessed it because it is real he's this whole time he's trying to convince people that real magic is actually real and he was like yeah we know file a pat wong's gonna file a pat no magic it's so fucking stupid i mean magic and then this guy is like what's the matter wong becoming more mystical than you and then wong is like the sorcerer supreme never engages in competition but i get i do magic better magic in my sleep or whatever and starts like preparing a spell and what and jen is like calm down he's just like why are you making wong's why is everyone so petty well here's the thing wong says he doesn't engage in competition but i'm pretty sure he broke someone out of prison in order to fight them but also he does engage in petty competition anyway like a minute later because he's very insecure i'm so tired of every this is what it actually means for every character to be the same like they're all incredibly stupid and they're all petty because petty is an easy way to make jokes isn't it funny that he's like i will beat you with a magic competition meanwhile you look at one great comedy a lot of the great comedy is the contrasting personalities i mean what is one of the most common comedic doors the straight man and the goofy wacky guy because it's really fun to have a contrast between the guy who plays the situation totally straight and the guy who's insane wong used to be the straight man because that was like the gag was you tell him a joke and he just stays at you yeah exactly wong has a very high bar for comedy wong doesn't i appreciate that wong doesn't say anything it's always in his reactions grommet is the straight man ironically he is the straight man he's one of the best straight man as a comedic pairing i've always really liked grommet it's a really fun character a great character design as well like man oddman oh man what's a grommet is some top tier some top tier comedy top tier animation and yeah so they've delivered a season desist that's that i guess yeah but he's not gonna follow it and they go to court yeah well of course they don't even have a case but then you get this really weird thing where wong is like showing off that this ball that the magician was playing with just now wong is like aha jokes on you i put it in my mouth i i find that really weird like in a magical perspective that's it's interesting that you did that but if i was like batting around a bowl and then someone put it in their mouth went i just go like yeah i mean didn't we just get over this whole covid thing yeah hope you brought yourself there alright again just i don't know who this character is i like ben and ig wong though he's a fun guy yeah he was cool he is excellently acting this character i really want him to be oh jesus i forgot this was next oh you mean the meme of a bad date they did this already in the other episode the like shitty manner is what i mean i guess shitty date shitty idiot people wasn't denis enough wasn't he enough we didn't get it all out with him why do we need more no one need to make this parody of a bad date the joke with this guy is he talks all about himself and everything he says kind of implies it's either a lie or that he overestimates everything about it and then the second she talks about anything he doesn't listen yeah just looking at the phone he's like uh-huh that's that's basically it she can just say like yeah i'm shihawk and i'm like this incredibly super powered individual and he just doesn't even notice without implying anything further i do just want it in stoner to what fringy just said yes she felt it was worthwhile mentioning that she's shihawk to him as a shock basically like she's saying things and he's not responding to them and so the implication is i can't keep making increasingly crazy things to see if he reacts and and one of the top tier ones is i'm shihawk and so it seems like jen is very aware that people don't know that shihawk and jennifer walthers are the same entity just something to keep in mind might be relevant not everybody knows and she's very aware that not everybody knows evidently she knows not everybody knows that yes anyway it's really funny that he's a complete asshole and they even have a shot where he looks at the the asses of two girls that pass by and jen's like wow rude because you're on a date with me shouldn't be looking at butts yeah what a bum so anyway the bill comes and they have this really really funny incredibly funny funny funny moment where they're both reaching for their wallet and i think the implication is like who's gonna offer to pay because in the current climate we're in i guess it's better for um i don't know what the rules are am i if i take a lady on a date am i i'm pretty sure the correct thing now is to split the bill that's what you're supposed to do right and so yeah the implication there of course is the what is he gonna try and go like i will pay for it and then she's gonna count with no i will pay for it but no he gets his car keys and then says okay bye thanks for the drinks as if to say yeah you're paying for a bitch lol do you remember a family guy when the chicken you know get on him got so applied about paying for the bill and they got so angry that they fucking fought to the death oh yeah yeah life-mended scene i really like the fight guys so that's that well we'll get more of stuff like that at some point um oh god this this is we're about to get very dense with with things to say about that your honor we filed a complaint an emotion for a preliminary injunction the the court case for all of this is beginning and this image i like my brain exploded seeing wong sitting in court wong sitting in court wong this is like this is like your legal Chernobyl you do not need to be here you need to be avoiding this place like the plague you should you should not be in a courtroom ever i think i said this to you i was like they did they didn't even do a throwaway line as stupid as oh yeah they dropped that that got dropped you know something like that they just didn't mention wait wait a throwaway a nonsensical throwaway line about charges being dropped on someone perished the thought that this show would ever do that that would never yeah that would be that would be very bizarre somebody who committed a crime or admitted yeah egregious crimes yeah yeah yeah things too big ones in front of several witnesses yeah especially if those crimes maybe might have involved the potential death and murder murder by absolutely like man wouldn't do that but luckily the show would do that so i don't even know why we're going on about it we should yeah i mean that's pretty exciting it rides we could get back on so the actual thing still better than not doing anything at all because yeah look at wong out here in court when he should be like it's over for wong interesting i would go as far as saying like this feels like definitive proof that this was supposed to happen before blonsky it does yeah and that they've moved the episodes around because this is fucking stupid did anybody watch the season before they released it just to catch if this was happening hey kevin just real quick because i hate nitpicking too man i hate it but oh man this is kind of odd thing that happens i want to get your opinion and kevin's just like fine fine who's really gonna notice yeah who would watch this show and that's what they think about like come on would watch this show i could totally see the right of saying that's not the point every fucking time it's not the point the legal elements are not the point of this show it's a fun a situation the law is not the point of she-hulk attorney at law they changed the name to put attorney at law in the title like why are you doing this to us it's not fair if they broke or changed very very specific nitty gritty rules of the law i totally understand you established he is a vigilante then put him in a court what do you want me to do with that i don't know what else to say is he getting arrested i guess not damn is it hard to just yeah it's hard to watch but anyway yeah you got your magician his mentor and the lawyer and um i guess yeah so they're gonna try and say gross negligence is what they're gonna try and get him on which is so fucking easy to get him on in fact i almost want to be a part of their legal team so i'd be like guys don't bring him to court yet let's just go to one of his shows and record what happens by the way i already feel uncomfortable about recording him but someone in an alternate it's like can we just stop him can we please just stop him yeah listen her sacrifice in the grand calculus oh yeah i guess was worth she all kept his own like i said this is just seconds from realizing Wong's even here but just like do you have any witnesses to corroborate Wong's like no no no no no and then Jen's like do you want to win this thing or not and he was an audience member why why is this not been decided he's not already here and also they need to know about this the opposing side the spring witnesses are people like this what's being implied here is the this is just an idea they had off the top of their head during court and Wong's like oh i don't like this idea and it's like no no no no that's not how witnesses work you can't do that no it can't just because they portal well i was about to say that's why i'm trying to take this so slowly because so much happens at once yes that happens and they're like we do have a witness and then Wong teleports into a courtroom you know court rooms where there tends to be security and stuff and vetting just like a person into a courtroom he's she's coming from a night club like yeah yeah it's just potting somewhere yeah you almost she almost steps through like as though she's slipping into the like as if we could make this worse Wong opens the portal behind her and thus she nearly trips over it how great is it your case that your client is coming in clearly inebriated with a she's also fucking drunk she's a drunk testimony is going to be very worthwhile her drunk that's one thing i actually check that apparently according to multiple studies drunk people are not necessarily worse with their stuff they're just less detailed but the basics are basically the same which i found interesting something that the prosecution wouldn't want oh absolutely i'm still horseshit that he's she's not here already it's actually down the list of the main problems because i was interested if they would if that that would be allowed in general if you if you could i would imagine not here people well i would just if we're a part of the prosecution i just like don't have a fucking when she's drunk who knows what she'll say let's put this out to what nightclub is open during like daytime in the court like the hours of the court's going to be uh in session she's on the other side she must be on the other side she's a different country so i don't fucking know yet like just teleporting teleporting people into different countries i'm sure that that has no legal ramifications whatsoever you know what's really funny is if she was just asleep they just drag her out they're on to the steps yep or she's in the shower or she's on the car what if she was in driving somewhere like yeah she could have been taken yeah it's like oh i guess that's the end of your case like you don't even have any witnesses to help you like imagine if she said no well to be fair she even it doesn't work right her testimony gets the uh the case considered bullshit because she says it was fun and spooky yeah which is fucking insane the witness gets to confirm like the whole adventure through the demon world but she said it was fun and spooky so the judge is like well fun and spooky yeah i couldn't like what are you supposed to do with this in terms of like steaks how can you possibly why would anyone compliment this show why would they hit me like that and again like it's not there like you teleported someone to a hell dimension how much someone into a hell dimension just because they were like oh that was fun it's like ah yes so all is forgiven all is spider daddy in the universe then you open a portal to a hell dimension what if monsters came through the portal that would be crazy that would be crazy if that happened in front of dozens of people hell dimension and all those creatures you know how they are not to you know but you know how they are those hell denizens they just want to go to other places you open up a portal they start pouring out and then you just like leave the portal open for extended periods time that would geez can you imagine I mean madness people can get hurt kind of that she says I made a pact with a demon and I can't discuss it in a courtroom I made a pact with the demon and he promised not to reap my soul and the souls of my family as long as I don't speak about it I like how is the judge not throwing this drunken idiot out you know what I mean yeah because the judge doesn't even seem to buy into like the magic like a real magic system right like she seems to be like resistant to that even though she just portals someone in exactly you everyone knows magic is real this one yeah you definitely can't get away with it at this point yeah and so yeah so were we taking a testimony as truth or not when she said she spoke to a demon that threatened to take her soul the souls of her family like are we what is the judge make of this yeah and then you have the fact as well there's no cross he says all of this shit and it's just sort of like they were waiting for what the judge might end up thinking about it mm-hmm which again is so far down the list honestly well I mean remember remember Wong is a fugitive from the United States government and here he has an open court yeah and he says like I moved to dismiss because Donnie's performance was clearly fun and spooky and he says the sweet spot for magic in my professional opinion I was legit sitting here like what about the part where he threw her into a demon dimension are we just not talking about this many many witnesses that you could have called forth from that show yeah he didn't get any of her jobs so is Madison the only one that lived in terms of the people he's been sending to the demon dimension because um I feel like that's a back toy that might get him in trouble yeah cause if he sensed multiple people that would be a question have you ever done this before it's like yeah well I mean you can't be lying about that it's like yeah and you sent them to other dimensions do you know if they're okay do they come back and here's the thing right even if she agrees that it's fun it's like whether she thinks it's fun or not if he put her in danger negligently that's it yeah but if you retroactively say that it was fun it doesn't change the act at the time yeah what if she didn't find it fun she didn't consent to going to a hell dimension but it was fun and spooky it was fun and spooky um the guy says you cannot do what they're trying to do and then uh because that's just magic is protected and she says no that's for card tricks and disappearing women who never speak this is very different because the mystic arts is in fact real magic like my fucking jaw drops real magic in a courtroom you just said the terms real magic what the fuck is that what does that mean to the law what the hell is going on real magic another path where this could be interesting where it could become interesting because now we need the distinction between magic things different magic like we have show magic then we have mystic arts magic witchcraft flimflam magic whatever there's so much different magic so now you have to differentiate between all these ones and then you have to go even further it's like oh which which magic is harmful to humanity which one could be used for I don't know healing which one could be used just for I don't know utility or something you have to define all these things now because you're just introducing all these things to the law but unfortunately we're just tying into a a little joke it is really really funny though it's really all of this world building destruction it's worth it because this is so fucking hilarious that it's worth it we need someone to decide now which magic is allowed basically in which one is dangerous at the point where if I were the fucking judge I'd just be like I'm sorry who's the arbiter of what is magic versus fake magic and real magic and then one would be like well me I guess and it's like Ryan fugitive of the law yes the arbiter of magic I think it never gets old calling one fugitive from no one fugitive Wong that's his new Marvel character yeah being pursued by an evil superhero who is also an attorney at law and is mistrial it's like Wong supreme Wong superior Wong fugitive Wong we need definitions for wizards and sorcerers and whether or not the hat is the difference exactly like legitimately at this point we actually need that because this is so dumb I don't even know the fact that she tries this shit again to me displays how much for shitty lawyer she is like you're on it you have to understand we're talking about real magic here it's like does she think that this is just something she can say and it'll just suddenly be preceded like it's as simple as that she sure thinks that yeah and then of course he does this thing where he fucking activates a smoke bomb that's his clothes in court yeah this activates explosive device that was dropped at the security from him oh that's shade it's like how did he get that through it's like yeah how did he get that through also you're under arrest setting off an explosive device in the courtroom yeah once again the prosecution doesn't recognize the opportunity they had right there but oh well yeah she's not very good at this and then Wong says oh he says the line places us on the edge of a precipice yeah the edge of a precipice this places us on the edge of a precipice the unkind use of this power could lead to a destruction of the known and unknown universe then fucking take it away from him you fucking idiot if you're gonna try to make that play you should be like trying to make the case on the basis that his use of magic is like dangerous to all life not just individuals who get sent through portals but like his inability to practice magic effectively threatens the lives of everybody in the universe which at that point it would be a much bigger deal than what this case is right now and then it's just like at the point where this whole case is Wong is just trying to appeal to this to destroy everything it's like why didn't you bother trying to prove that why have you guys not focused at all on the important part he's opening portals to demon dimensions okay we don't care if Madison with a why had fun that's really not the point it doesn't matter if she had fun who cares if he's endangering the lives of everybody on earth and then so they say like you'll have my decision in three weeks and she looks like well can we still stop the defendant from engaging in this dangerous behavior until you've made your decision and the judge says no because you can't do that it's his work also Don and Don Emacs like the whole speech audience is like oh this is my thing and there's like bad magic tricks and then the judge is like okay yeah it's fun if she says stop throwing smoke bombs how did he get those two to cure like that's what you mentioned earlier and he just brings a rabbit yeah he just doing magic spells in court like what are you doing there's a procedure here we need to address the fact that like someone might be like yeah but it's just a big clown show and it's just like why do they appeal to any sense of anything in this show for the law if you want me to believe all of this is supposed to be like Teletubby's level which is more coherent by the way it is definitely more coherent yeah she says he should be allowed to practice his livelihood of opening portals to dimensions that have demons that eat souls like I she could say no she could say no even if it's his livelihood she could say no of course if the point is that he's endangering lives like surely like we know it's his livelihood but we think it's dangerous and then Wong because this is in character at this point says can we send him to the mirror dimension I forgot about that what are you doing Wong that's a crime Wong now it's not the time to be making these suggestions you can't just send people to the mirror dimension because they annoy you he probably won't even die he probably won't probably won't even die it's like it's the ultimate destruction of his character again and again it's fine he probably won't die that's true it is really funny and there's no like why should I feel this way Wong if you feel the universe is at stake go get the ring man go get the ring man should be easy he's like real people sorcerer you're a super duper sorcerer so I can't fix it but Jen Jen is like working on a dating profile and she's sad she's not getting the results she wants from the speed there's no way there's no way no way not only the way those dating apps work but also there's still probably a bunch of a lot of people who know that Jen Walters is She-Hulk and alone on that basis you should get a bunch of why would she not be getting any dates whatsoever yeah exactly do you think that there is something to be said was that I was just saying you don't even need those are the factors to play into it no no just yeah go ahead I'm curious if there's anything to be said about the idea that knowing that the prosecution or whatever the other side of the legal aisle right is She-Hulk an indestructible you know superhero creature that would probably be just called you know Hulk adjacent essentially if that in and of itself would be like well wait so is that like its own form of would that create any issues that someone inside that courtroom that is taking a side in this proceeding has that kind of power and is unstoppable essentially I think I mentioned that once before the show started it's like I guess that might well be a court case in and of itself is like She-Hulk as an entity is incredibly powerful what implications this is having just the way that she like conducts her job and her business especially in like yeah and if she's a DA she's a federal employee right so she's acting doing all this as an agent of the state does that add an extra layer of all I guess now yeah okay but I mean that's the least of like we can we can we can move past that like you know that can that can disappear if we can if the show doesn't give a shit well goodness whatever should I that seems like a much less clear cut thing and the show doesn't want to deal in like any sort of if we move past that to just go to other I guess more meaningful things we can do that but with us so of course so that she's not getting the results she's wants so she turns into She-Hulk makes a She-Hulk dating profile looks at the camera and says I'm not proud of this and it's like but Jen like didn't like everything you've been criticizing yeah well yeah that's true shouldn't seem to try very long and also I just don't believe she wouldn't get any matches yeah and then she realizes oh boy ding ding ding ding ding ding she's getting all kinds of results and unfortunately with the way the timeline works I think we're supposed to believe this happens over several days I really I don't know every time she's in the same front I think that's more of a way to read it is that she's scheduled like six dates for one night but I don't know how that works like logistically like did she give them each an hour or something a lot I thought it was one of those like big thing like what's that movie pitch where he does like you just like swap places and you get like 15 20 well I guess not because he tried to pay the bill at the end so that's weird I have no clue her arranging dates on on a like match or whatever it's called so it's not speed dating at least it doesn't see yeah she stays in the same spot and they cycle in and out well that's how it works and like you usually have one person who sits in the same chair and then someone I guess what I'm saying is like this isn't speed dating she got dates on on the tier equivalent one night presumably or they're all different nights but it's the same restaurants who wears the same dress right well we get we get a speed run of people that the writers hate that's some good way to put first one is guy who likes the fact that he's really strong he's like I can I can dead weight dead lift 600 more so than she is she's like I can lift 600 and I'm not even he asks he asks her he goes out of his way to ask her about he immediately pivots to talking about himself like he's self-centered that's like the point it's just I don't really I guess I'm not I don't know why you would care to ask her if like he doesn't care like whatever what a response is I guess I don't know I I think it's I think it's really tough to say I mean I guess I know what they're trying to do but it's it sounds like a very awkward way to try and put that across cause the part she didn't like was when he aggressively asked their order taken back that he's like I'm pretty strong I think they're gunning for like this guy's toxic about his about his because she already gives up on the date like the second that he calls for the orders like okay next guy is I'm making a movie about a guy who's into constitutional law and that's how he becomes the vice president and that's it by the way that's it not you fucking L look at the movie thing again they all just let him I realize now at this point that it's a genuine infection that comes in whatever someone starts it long enough or if they're bored I don't know if it's just Chad is bored what's going on what's the beginning it has but sometimes that was like a full screen of him we got some hyper cringe on the way Chad you enjoy while alas anyway I just thought it was interesting that he just explains that and they cut to the next guy as if like well that's clearly a loser talking about the film he's making imagine making a movie because you enjoy the craft of filmmaking and you're excited to tell people about it on a date wow what a fucking loser I don't know like all I have is one snippet of a conversation where he's talking about himself did she ask him about it or did he bring it up himself because he wants to talk about it that sounds like something that would just bring up it's fine to talk about yourself maybe the movie doesn't know that like that's a big thing in his life like making a movie like making a film it's a passion he cares about like I guess the film I guess the shows I guess the thing that I'm making fun of is that like he's sort of talking about like this stupid I mean isn't this like hilarious though he's talking about his stupid law movie in this stupid law show it's kind of funny like isn't this ridiculous that he thinks he knows anything about the law as ordained by us who wrote this show do you think that's more lamp shading but more meta I don't think it's cool I don't think I know what they've done there that's a mistake I guess I don't even know what to believe anymore that guy is like all into talking about all of the different like powers and attributes and stuff I get the impression that this guy is one of the guys in that wrecking crew like that he's that we'll see him again well either way he fucks up when he refers to her as a specimen yeah funnily enough triggered a memory I'm pretty sure the guy in Winter Soldier in like the little convenience store thing that they're in he refers to Captain America as a specimen I'm pretty sure that Scott calls our a specimen when he wait no he doesn't wait does he I think he does when he meets him at the airport doesn't he call him a specimen you know when he's like oh Captain America I'm shaking your hands too long and then like he plants his hands on his shoulders I think he calls him a specimen well either way I don't remember the guy I'm talking about he's got like really long hair you help them they were on like the laptop and I think I think Black Widow says look at you too you're like brothers and then he goes I wish specimen yeah maybe that's where I mix him up I definitely remember that one anyway whatever that guy obviously he fucks up too and he says that and then he's like gosh isn't dating in your 30s horrible is there anything worse than dating in your 30s and honestly I mean true I can't think of anything that could be worse and especially in the Marvel Cinematic Universe I could be worse than dating in your 30s wow dating in your 30s hellish our last match handsome doctor man yeah and he says all the perfect things and he's perfect perfect perfect man he's just perfect it's almost boring to talk about because of course we went from like just like embarrassing caricatures of humans and some of them are not like the movie guy there was no way near enough in there to be critical of him that was just weird like that conversation could there probably was longer actually the original version but they just helping everything down and so yeah perfect man she's talking to him for a while and then we cut back to good ol mr. he's here he's about to do something really stupid well he opens up a portal to somewhere just normal and it's like lame my friend ended up in some parking lot I'm not getting into that hole the implication of course being that he's got to do something more eccentric than that now what could be more eccentric than a car park well maybe like the Taj Mahal or something let's go to hell or like hey Mount Everest Disneyland even you got a lot of options for interesting places that you could teleport somebody that would be mad if you took him to Disney World fiery demon pit well not quite borns a bird that lands on your hand and drops an egg and then he seems to be disturbed by this and she sees that the egg is hatching and there's a little demon in there but he's a little cute demon and then he goes oh my goodness so he's like don't you worry donnie blaze has got this and so he opens up a portal to a demon dimension and kicks the thing in there and it hits the bird and they both land in there why did the pitch now is weird I don't know I don't understand you're all according he's like all part of the plan and he doesn't close the portal to the hell dimension he just leaves yeah he's very good if he had closed it immediately which we know he knows how to do everything would have been fine instead he just leaves it open for ages and then the initial demon jumps back through and then loads start coming in oh my goodness the cease and desist is now the least of donnie blaze oh my goodness you got closed that door are you trying to air condition the hell dimension it's over it's over for your boy donnie blaze he's just unleashed a bunch of demons on all these innocent people it's over for donnie blaze the cease and desist not even part of the equation he'll be lucky he'll be lucky he ever sees the outside of a cell like outside world ever again he'll wish he jumped into the portal to the hell dimension and then maybe it's actually a really nice place and this is just how they say hello portals to wong he says help me i screwed up wong like what did you do and he's like the little thing comes through wong hits it with some magic and then wong before leaving to go and help stop this thing from being whatever it is for you i'm doing it for the universe wong hurry up why would you need to tell him that yeah it's fucking good what is it with you yeah like why would you care to let him know why you're motivated to help what like help just help and then the guy says is there anything i can do and wong says contact my lawyer like not call dr. strange no don't call him call people who are openly doing hero work any kind of montage or anything like that no don't call them for help call she-hulk that's who you need to call right now the person has no combat experience whatsoever who is your lawyer that you met briefly who also probably doesn't want to do this there's other people also just like you have a bunch of demon bats she-hawks probably don't like your best choice for dealing with that she'll be good on more like one-on-one encounters or like a couple of big guys but like yeah demon seems like yeah you get some but yeah whatever yeah he's in that room but he's flying back he'd close that portal behind uh he'd close that portal behind wong and flee into the pool yeah we're the best choice river this bye yeah anyway uh we have the dating scene is back he's incredibly understanding and he says like tell me more about how you feel and it's like oh see he cares so much about everything she has to say and I find it funny funny right whenever one of his dates was talking about their life their interests themselves she's like this is the worst person ever and when someone only makes it about her they're the best person ever yeah there's no balance the best is when someone shows interest in both themselves and you and the way you two can benefit each other not just someone who goes I want to know what you think about everything because you're the only person the baddest in the whole fucking world the thing that is funny though is that both times he asks her about her we never get to see what they talk about it cuts away or he talks about something else because the first time he's like I want to talk about you also food situation can we sort that out first and then in this one like he says yeah tell me more how you felt but then when she turns off the phone is like oh this is a great day it's like so how much do you really care what she thinks exactly but she thinks it's a good day because he keeps asking about her and she loves that I don't know if they do this on purpose or not you are characterizing here and I don't know if you realized but uh yeah he says I hate the speed date app thing everyone treats you like some soulless avatar on their phone is like what it is yeah also she she's like oh I can't believe the fucking weirdos swiping right or left like this is what both of you did to meet up you both are engaging in the thing that you find so distasteful that's how you got here assessment when it's just describing even the people who make the fucking apps will be like well yeah the fastest way to get two people together to start trying to see if it can work this app is supposed to be a detailed essay of exactly who you are as a person and why people should date you it's getting and to be fair nobody wants that shit they want to know what you look like they want to be like alright I'll give you a chance I guess like that's how it works you both do that you both did that so like I don't know if the show wants you to think that yeah they're so they're clearly so uh you know like they both did it but they're both commenting on it as if they didn't want to yes this is all interesting considering what happens next well yeah this um uh so so phone goes off and obviously she wants to ignore it because it's uh donny blaze fully enough calling her um yeah I don't know maybe she would because oh no she probably wouldn't actually no because she can't like like if she's opposing counsel in the case she can't just be like talking to him without his lawyers it's like not the way that it works she would have the lawyer's contact information she wouldn't have his phone what's that metal no there's no way she would have no hello oh I think rags by rags I guess she does though hello hello it's I cannot hear my internet board is having a tism hey yes it is Singapore Singapore has that fixed the problem Singapore there we go is everyone back I'm back so yeah that was odd all I was saying was she wouldn't have his phone number um she can't talk to him well and I was going to say the fact that he's ringing here should probably be enough to actually be like wait why the hell is he ringing me yeah exactly why would I mean yeah anyway the wine is spilled on this poor guy you know and the worst thing about that is that it makes you got to take that shirt off so he does wants to get like cleaned up and while he's gone she hides his shirt so he can't put it back on that doesn't seem like the kind of thing that wine would be okay can you imagine oh can you imagine oh here's my chance to make sure she can't get her shirt it really is like double standards the show yeah so anyway Wong opens the portal up and he's like Miss Walters why aren't you answering your phone with as an image I just can't handle it I'm just like why the fuck are you contacting her you idiot there are so many better and he's like oh I see you're currently in a position to help save the world now I'm just like oh I see why what do you mean you see do you think she's gonna save everybody from the demon army you don't care what she's up to you want to grab her and get her in here why are we taking to where's Doctor Strange Steve help me where did I want you back he says Donnie Blaze opened the wrong portal I need your help it's one of our greatest urgencies like okay I'll be right back and then Wong's like oh I feel like your dad okay are you joking people are getting dragged away right here whatever we'll get there no actual demons Wong I've been fending them off I have to repair the portal wish to be felt so video gamey like you and she have to punch 20 demon bats to death while he's just spinning his hands around in this little loading bar I am repairing the portal okay it's really awkward because when he starts doing it it takes like two seconds what when he actually starts doing it yes you're right they're all just pouring in still by the way kind of nuts first things first close the portal that would be a great idea they're incredibly lucky to find out that all the bats are trying to escape into the world they just can't unfortunately yeah just coincidentally there's no way the bats can get out they're stuck on the doors and every exit is sealed like wow even though there was a huge crowd of people in here that ran out so they went somewhere did they close the doors behind them I guess so and none of the creatures got through these creatures by the way are immune they're immune to huge hulk stomping on them yeah my god they just they just flume goop all over the place demon goop sledge if you will him and his mentor are like crawling around the area hoping to not get killed while she's like gradually throwing one or two in at a time wong then closes the portal finally the door won't the fuck took so long to then convert the energy into a whip and it's like oh okay and he starts like spinning it around and they have a shot to show Donny's like really impressed like oh wow look at the magic he's doing the whip like grabs one demony thing and he throws it in like man if only wong had like an ability with this portal that could just give you all of them in seconds what you're talking about is insane I have no idea what you're talking about but what I was going to say with the knowledge we currently have why not move the portal around and just throw them all in that way you know I'll be a good idea and she's like after so many bad dates I finally meet a guy who's sweet and then he's like focused and she said he's super hot but that doesn't matter but it does like god damn it that is a bit I think it's a bit oof for the for this show yeah but yeah now they're getting real big these things they're getting big enough to be able to just push her around and she's a fucking she-hulk so who knows how big they get yeah a bit of a worry she's still tossing them into the hole wong is helping out just waiting for it to happen there we go wong starts up a spell that just sucks them all in instantly no problem and it manages to even it sucks them in where it doesn't do anything to human beings yeah man should have maybe started with that one maybe that might have been a move that means he wouldn't have needed her at all exactly that was very easy I am back what which part are you guys on right now we're just talking about how he used a spell that dominated these creatures right at the end was this one oh the whirlpool the whirlwind thing where he spins it and sucks them in oh yeah I would have opened with that one but that was a police at my door quick tangent don't worry I'm not in trouble so the police were at my door and someone I guess out in the parking lot had parked their car in a way that blocked multiple cars from being able to leave their spots and so they're trying to track down who this car belongs to so that's a thing like yeah fuck people I can't even imagine but yeah this scene is terrible however are we gonna do the thing the thing that we mentioned earlier about the give the reason I was thinking about it and I was like I shouldn't just stop it the second we reach whatever the thing may or may not have been so we've gone past it for sure at this point so now yes it would make sense to see what are you three's guesses on what my my primary issue with the episode was in terms of you've broken it so hard now hit the button yeah was that right did I match so that's a that's a pretty good one and it's in the it's in the realm wait what are the other two's ones um wait I still don't understand what exactly we're doing right now I I said what's the thing that made me say like this episode is categorically worse than the first three for sure um why don't you go metal I'm typing it out you might as well just tell us now the typing thing was so that we could reveal it all I'm sorry nobody else it's fine I'm glad you did Mahler I only explained it like 300 times it's fine whatever it's all good I'm just glad that we're here having a good time we got chat talking about media that we love no we don't what's your answer metal I'm waiting for you probably just the destruction of Wong and overall world building issues it's like you didn't even listen one thing it was just one thing I would say there are two candidates in my mind so I'm gonna have to toss them up and figure out which one I think there are two choices and I'm gonna go with this one when Wong created no no actually it was when Wong showed up in court that was that was the one it was when Wong showed up in court um so funnily enough that would probably be my number two actually rags is close enough to number one though question is that the world of this I thought the implication is that just another universe or something I was just hoping no one lives there when they started throwing presumably here's the thing if they wanted to make it clear that it was another dimension we've shown the kind of backgrounds they can make why just make it it's just a mountain range a v