This is Yoho Sapil Bhartiya and welcome to TFR Newsroom. And today we have with us, once again, Puneet Gupta, CEO and founder of Emberflow. Puneet, it's great to have you on the show. Great to be back, stop now. Always good to connect back to the end. Today's topic is going to be something of great interest to a lot of folks because almost all of us, especially tech, we are talking about Genetic AI, Gen AI, or mostly we talk about chat, GPT and all those things. And we have, I have been recording videos almost on a daily basis, where companies are moving a lot of things in production. Before we talk about this specific announcement that you folks are coming out with, what I do want to understand or hear from you is, how are you seeing? Because oftentimes we do see blip in the redars. We see a lot of hype around certain technologies. But over six months, nobody talks about that. NFTs are a good example. But when it comes to Gen AI, what are your feelings? That is it hype or is it something real? Which feels like almost as big as Docker containers or Kubernetes or Linux kernel? Obviously there's an active debate going on about precisely that, whether this is interim, maybe this is some kind of a fad or short-term. Because we've seen some of these in the past, right? Where we thought there was going to be sort of a long-term game changer. I think people got excited about crypto, blockchain, a few others. And they've had an impact. But I think generally now the consensus is that, yes, this is widely disruptive and this is widely impactful. I think not just hearsay or narratives, I think data is starting to come out where folks are experiencing what this technology can do and then how it can ripple through pretty much any use case that we can think of. Having said that, yes, still sort of a little bit early innings. I think we've seen some powerful, I would say consumer type use cases. But I think it's just a matter of time before we start to see a huge, huge onslaught on the B2B side. Just like any technology, it takes a little while to for sort of the maturation and for it to kind of propagate. And as we're seeing the stack is sort of still building out, right? You have the foundation layer and then you have additional layer that are being built on tops. A lot of tooling is coming in place. So, and you know, I mean, I am in the Bay Area, this is considered ground zero for AIML. And I can tell you, I think yes, I think some of the best minds are talking about the fact that this is transformative and this is here to stay. And this is gonna be just as big as, I mean, Kubernetes cloud computing sort of in that caliber even beyond that. As organizations, you know, everybody, they get excited about the new shiny object. We, you know, we move to, everybody moved to cloud and now we are like dealing with the cloud complexity. We are dealing with cloud cost. So when it comes to once again, Genitive AI, what are the challenges that you see? I'm not talking about the technical challenges, but once again, the challenge of scaling, challenges of cost. One of the things that I think folks are gonna find where the landscape has changed or you know, how they have traditionally approached development, product development, feature development. In the case of AIML and then, you know, the particular form of AIML that we're all talking about which is generative AI on the backs of LLMs. I think one of those things that we have seen it again, just a little bit fortunate from having some experience in the past of working at some large cloud providers. This is, and as you sort of called out, you know, sometimes you can kind of all wrapped up around some cool new technology, but if you figure out what your use case is and that value vector, which I think most many companies are starting to figure out, right? I mean, we've seen as I said on the consumer side, what the PROM based interaction is, right? And just about every B2B company is thinking how they can leverage that into their products and services. Okay, so that's kind of how it's going to transform and change your product offering, right? Now, one of the things that's going to be different in that life cycle, in that implementation, as companies move towards that end goal is sort of the monetization aspect of generative AI and LLMs, right? So let me sort of contrast and compare. In the traditional world, prior to generative AI or LLMs or any form of AI ML that was part of your technology stack, most of the monetization models were sort of, you know, what I call old school fixed subscription, right? $50 per user per month, seat-based license, user-based license. AI ML, generative AI, chat GPT, LLM really just turns it on its head, right? You can no longer go on with a fixed model because by default, anything AI ML is usage-based, right? Whether you are using your own models that are layered on top of foundational models, everything is going to come to you in the form of a consumption unit, right? Chat GPT uses the form of something that they call tokens that they charge you based on what kind of query that you're sending into the chat GPT model. So you're going to have to very quickly get ahead of this and start tracking. And what I'm getting at is compared to sort of the old school to new school way of implementation, you have to think about this right from the outset. You can no longer think about monetization as let me get the technology built and then I'll hand it over to an accounting team or a finance team or even a sales team to come up with my monetization strategy. That will no longer work. You have to bake it in as part of your development process, right? So I think most companies are discovering it. Some unfortunately will maybe discover it on the end of it. And I think they're going to have to backtrack. And we are suddenly evangelizing that just from our past experience, you have to start tackling this right from the outset as when you start to incorporate LLMs into your products and services. So if I'm not wrong, what you folks are working on is not for the users, but it's for the folks who offer AI based solutions. So the usage, they can monetize from the usage. Is it correct? 100% yeah.  As you just said, okay, a lot of euphoria, a lot of excitement about Generator of AI LLMs. I don't think there's any company left on the planet that hasn't gotten into a room with a set of PMs and engineers and have a head, had a session about, okay, how do I bring in some flavor of LLMs into my products or services? I think every company has had that discussion, right? So everybody's roadmap, everybody's roadmap has been impacted, right? They're thinking about how to do that. And all of that is great, right? You're thinking about, you know, what that experience is going to be like for your users, for your customers. Okay, but which is great. So go down that path, but don't overlook the monetization aspect, okay? Which is what we're helping with. You know, I sort of have this great analogy I thought of a few days back. You'd remember sort of the big old California gold rush and you know, it was said that, you know, don't show up to the gold rush without a shovel, right? So everybody's making a mad dash here for generative AI and LLM, but don't overlook the monetization aspect. Don't look at it for sort of on the far end of it when you get done. No, you have to bake it in. So on that end, we are providing a monetization platform for generative AI and LLMs. So any SaaS company that wants to monetize their AI ML, we have a turnkey offering where we enable you to meter and usage track what you are using of your underlying LLM and generative AI model. So first ability to track that, because if you think about it, you know, you want to track number of tokens consumed, latency on the prairie, user feedback, number of prompts, all of those things will need to be metered. And then you want to probably do some kind of a markup over those transactions and then charge your customers appropriately based on usage and consumption. So we're providing a turnkey platform where they can do all of that and then generate on-demand real-time metered invoicing and billing for a generative AI chat GPT-based product and service. As you folks are working on this extension on your platform, I wonder, I'm curious that what was the driver behind it? Is it like the way you work with your customers or you saw, hey, these are the trends that are happening in the space? I'm just like trying to understand the origin of that, how you came up with, hey, we have to do that.  We have been very bullish on the fact that, I mean, we just hold a steadfast view. We've held it for a long time that the world is going to shift to a usage-based pricing and billing model, okay? Now, having said that, Swapnil, I think, you know, maybe when you and I first chatted already the year back, maybe longer, not everybody was on that bandwagon, right? I mean, and I know, I remember time three years back when we started the company, you know, it was still kind of half and half. I mean, not many folks kind of got around to it. In fact, one of the things that where we did have alignment on, folks said, yeah, okay, I could see infrastructure and platform-type companies or solutions going down the path of usage-based pricing and billing, but many folks sort of held out that, you know, traditional SaaS applications, sort of the top tier of the technology stat, that is going to be a holdout. You know, many folks said that, you know, I don't see how that, you know, how I see Salesforce shifting to a usage-based pricing and billing model. Well, tell you what, we had held the view that it will, right? Now, two years ago, I could not tell you what would be the catalyst for that. We just had, you know, we knew that it was inevitable and we've talked about why it was inevitable because cloud is elastic and ultimately that elasticity will, you know, transcend through your technology stack into how you send your product and services. Well, guess what, Swapnil, the catalyst ended up being generated AI and LLM, right? So this thing came out of nowhere, you know, four or five months back when people started to experience chat GPT and like we just discussed, now everybody's product roadmap, doesn't matter what company, what industry, what vertical, everybody is thinking about, okay, how do I bring back this into my products and services? The moment you're going to bring any flavor of AIML, you are down the path of usage-based pricing and billing. So we have this vision from day one. Our platform has the, what we call primitives, building blocks to really support this. So for us, really, it's just a very natural extension. You know, when this catalyst sort of emerged, it was simply a matter for us to build some predefined meters on the backs of chat GPT and these, you know, custom monetization parameters. And that's really all. So it's been really seamless and we provide tremendous value to a customer just out of box. They can really quickly monetize any flavor of chat GPT, LLMs, custom LLMs that they're building and however they want to project that to their customers. If you can just give an overview, when we look at Emberflow today, that these are the solutions that are there part of the platform. So you are capturing, you know, as we have talked earlier also, Emberflow is where, where about the customers are in their own journey. Actually, sometimes you're staying ahead of the curve as you said earlier that, you know, people would not even think it. So let's talk about that also. What we're enabling is basically an end-to-end modern monetization platform that will keep you ahead of these changes that are coming rapidly, right?  We're built around the foundation of metering. And, you know, metering is sort of a euphemism for usage instrumentation. But usage instrumentation done right where there's a class of primitive and that's why it's called a metering service. It's not observability. It's not monitoring. It's not, you know, logging. It's metering. So, you know, by design, it is built from the ground up to be accurate, things like item potency, data deduplication. You just kind of set it and forget it. This is that one system that you want to put in place and this will scale with you no matter where you are today with what you're metering and a six months from now or a year from now or five years from now, whatever that looks like, this system will provide you a standardized interface across your enterprise, across your organization and it will scale with time. So it is highly flexible, highly customizable, accurate, real-time usage instrumentation metering system and then layered on top, we provide you what we call our billing cloud which then allows you to really construct any kind of a modern flexible usage-based pricing plan that you want to expose to your customers, right? So you want to charge on any flavor of usage-based, tiered-based, prepaid, true-up, commit-based.  So it's a full-on turnkey, end-to-end, monetization platform. Of course, you folks are announcing it today but can you also talk about one thing is that what kind of potential use cases that you say where, hey, these are the companies who say leverage it or if they're already partners that you're already working on, I mean, they're already leveraging this technology. We're seeing use cases across the spectrum, right? And I think this is just, again, a testament to the fact we already talked about it. I mean, every single company, I kid you not, you pick anybody and everybody's having a conversation internally with their product teams and how they incorporate LLMs into their technology stack. SupportLogic, one of our existing customers, guess what, they already had a layer of AI ML built into their platform. They provide support ticket analytics to their customers and now they are leveling up that experience as you would imagine as we've just discussed with a more prompt oriented and interactive generative AI and LLM based experience, right? So they're already deploying, they're already a customer and then they're taking our extension of our platform and are going to be delivering that experience. Several of our other customers are already down that path. Like I said, you know, that roadmap discussions already have already happened. They have our platform, they were design partners for us and the extension of this platform as we have enabled modernization for LLMs and generative AI. Puneet, thank you so much for taking time out today and talk about this announcement. It's really good to see that you folks, as I said, are staying ahead of the curve, offering these kinds of solutions before the industry is ready for them. So that's really good to see how you're kind of bullish on usage based model and also getting generative AI into that form. It was a great discussion and I look forward to talk to you again soon. Thank you. Thanks so, yeah, likewise. I'm sure we'll be back again and very exciting times. So looking forward to it.


The Wyoming Black Hills are home to many unique cultural and geologic features. One of these features is a small mountain located between Sundance, Newcastle and Upton Wyoming called Indian Cara. This 6,368-foot peak is listed on the registration of historic places for its cultural significance. The mountain is sacred to many Native American tribes, including the Lakota tribe. The Lakota believe the mountain is important for the creation of life and the revitalization of the woman's body. Indian Cara also marks the starting point for General George Custer's expedition into the Black Hills. General Custer carved his name into Iraq on top of the mountain that can still be seen today. The scenic mountain was first described by a geologic party in 1857 by Lieutenant J.K. Warren. Warren was only there for a short duration before he was forced to leave by Native Americans hunting in the area. Indian Cara is surrounded by private property, yet the mountain itself is forest service land. While it is not open to the public, the mountain is easily viewed from Highway 585 or 116 in Northeast Wyoming. From the University of Wyoming Extension, I'm Brian Sebade, Exploring the Nature of Wyoming.


Yeah, the the balloons are drooping a little bit. What's going on guys? My name is Jack the bus you can call me I should only walk back to a brand new video then we've episode 11 of demon slayer Susumi mansion now last episode we saw kind of the conclusion of the fight between the tamari demon and the aro demon They ended up dying and we saw Tanjiro and Nezuko's departure from the medical demon and I forget the other dude's name Either way, I imagine they'll pop up later We ended the episode with Tanjiro actually coming across one of those final contestants from the mountain with a final test Was I called them Doritos because he has like a yellow kimono with like triangles on it And he seemed like he was in a bit of a sticky situation Guys, we're gonna hop right into it if you needed a shadow chop a sub hit that big whip I'll send you future episodes. I'm about like on this one. Let's just hop right into it Susumi mansion So I think it ended with him asking Her to marry him and this bird landed. Yeah, I don't know the purpose of maybe that's like his crow Why does it sound like a balloon Get yourself together man Yeah, this guy made it to the final selection. Oh, yeah, he got This poor girl Just that is There's like a final last ditch ever It was over. That's the meme like disgusted. Look me. Oh my gosh They're he's gonna say we have to fight He has to have some kind of trick up the sleeves the fact they made it through the final selection Zenitsu So he's trying to do it to Making your life for himself My gosh Nothing goes right It's who's a mess, bro. I Love how accurately his sparrow represents him in a way Dude It seems so quiet now I Know he has a demon with him. He literally gave him his last meal Zenitsu redemption I thought he would be a little bit selfish, please not You didn't let me now, but you didn't let me down Was it distressed are you surprised he's had it I love husband was like, yep, that's right What happened Are they both on the same mission he's like well, this is it this is where I die Wait, so I'm still can understand the sparrow and his crow. Why can he only understand the crow? You have to what happens if a demon sir just doesn't go to an assignment. Are they like are they fired? I'm gonna guess that's the mansion. What was it called? Now you can I tell him about Nezuko oh He has like advanced hearing or maybe smell and hearing that'd be kind of appropriate Maybe they saw demons At least it's daylight outside now. I like this sparrow is so cute That guy looks like the one from that village from time to this first assignment All right demon just chill in there a demon lives there Oh my gosh You That is a big-looking demon to his covering his ears Maybe he does have like advanced hearing Was pretty brave to just follow him, but I guess They wanted to get their brother back Yeah, he definitely has Yeah Oh, it was Suzumi mansion wasn't it? Yeah, it's appropriate because he has advanced smell and he has advanced hearing so they actually make a good pair This is super eerie dude That's the brother. Oh, oh my god. God. Dude.  He's like even though I'm completely safe now the demon can't even remotely get to me I still die He is not happy that people are on his property so that is from him Okay, so that's the sound he heard was him hitting like that drum thing I mean Oh, maybe there's still a chance then maybe just kind of like locked up or something This is a very advanced demon just straight up kidnaps people and keeps them in his home I Don't you know such a sweetie pie, bro?   Oh never mind. Oh Oh Leave Nezuko with them to touch don't just take it all the responsibility, baby. Oh My gosh into the mansion they go This demon is not very good at interior decorating. I'm gonna keep it a buck This is spooky, dude That's just so much like confidence How did he make it to the final selection? Oh, yeah, I forgot about that you got some weight to hold but yeah This dude is a mess 99.9% dead The team is gonna hear you Just snatch them Dude the demon wanna you want him? This is right there He should have told them what it was. Oh My gosh, wait, yeah, now she's alone Please go get her please We heard scratching sounds wait You can manipulate the house. Oh my gosh, this is creepy dude I'm worried about this girl. I feel like they're gonna get out of the house. I'm just gonna be gone He's still trying to keep her Not scared There it is With the drum too I mean, it's really strong to the more humans it's devoured Thank God I found tangible first cuz he would just be obliterated instantly Baby Rolled and smoked Literally dying So dramatic I'm gonna summon a grown-up. How young is he? Oh There is no outside anymore Dude that is such a creepy concept just that the house is manipulated by the beat of that What was it called a Suzumi? I've seen that before this guy in like social media and stuff Look at the forehead At least you didn't hurt him Maybe he's there looking for the demon to get two swords on his hip. I think that is so creepy Is he blind can you not see them Yes vision really bad the eyesight's really bad whether you get some smell Oh No god dude that's such a cool concept though the room flipped That's so it don't get implanted in him Is it the warhead guy I think it is He does have two blades like serrated to Yeah, why does he have a boar's head on that blade is insane looking Okay, so he's definitely there to hunt the demon. I don't think he's a demon slayer though He doesn't have the uniform or anything It's like his own uniform my god Lot transpired that episode Sometimes I read the comments after on the episode on crunchy roll and the top one says Zenitsu is one of those guys who Pays for their black belt. Yeah, that dude is an absolute mess I said, I feel like there's a much more special reason as to how he made it through the final selection Maybe he hid the whole time. I have no idea But he's literally just immensely scared of just going on any mission seeing any demon There were a ton on that mountain the wonder he looked so distressed after he looks like a dead man walking Nonetheless, I love this concept of the Suzumi demon in the mansion that we were introduced to this episode I said it's a very unsettling concept to be in this house where it can be manipulated It's just the sound is so eerie of the drum But I'm guessing that next episode we're gonna find out a lot more about this this boarhead demon Hopefully nesco doesn't get taken. I'm assuming that's why she was left outside. It's gonna be like a plot point I'm guessing we're gonna see the fight between Tanjo in this boarhead against the Suzumi demon because it's been it for the episode We did enjoy be sure to drop your comments down below. We have the episode without my reaction It's always a hope you guys have water for us today as for usual. I'll catch you in the next one. Hey space


Hi everyone, Sean with jaspyscasebreaks.com here doing a NHL bubble hockey bixer Jaspys 11 box random team where at the end we're gonna be giving him by a Matthew Bar-Sall BGS 9 5 gem giveaway plus $200 and break credit So we're going to randomizer to list the teams and the customers and then at the end We're going to do another randomizer where the first spot will get that Matthew Bar-Sall SP authentic auto Well spots two three four and five will all get $50 in break credit Thanks to everybody that got into this As well as the filler that we just did from ice given away 16 spots in this so We've got David with the first spot that was purchased down to Mike and his last spot mojo And then the 16 spots that we're just giving away in that ice 12 filler. Congrats to everybody there Here's a list of teams From the ducks down to the Jets and a dice roll here We'll determine how many times we're gonna randomize each list and it's a one of the six seven times Good luck everyone one two three four five six Seventh and final time on the list of customers so Wes Down to John McClellan now seven times on the teams one two three four five six Seventh and final time The Kings with the first spot Down to the Montreal Canadians Now let's see how it paired up everybody. Good luck. Let me blow this up a little bit and There will be a trade window here. So So we got Wesley Thomas with the Los Angeles Kings Mike Krasinski with the Rangers Mike Krasinski with the senators Mike Krasinski with the devils Colin Sullivan with the Canucks Phillip megal with the ducks Mike Krasinski with the Hurricanes Chris Maxwell with the jacket blue jackets Nick tall walk with the coyotes Stephen ball this with the wild David Larson with the Knights Peter Teminis with the Blackhawks Chris Maxwell with the Capitals John McCall with the lightning Edwin Hawk with the wings Josh Proust with the flames Grasinski with the Islanders Aaron Salinas with the Sabres Amber Bishop the Jets Mark Patonty with the Leafs David Duffy with the Panthers David Duffy with the sharks Wesley Thomas with the Bruins Amber Bishop the Predators Chris Maxwell with the Oilers Stephen Ballas with the Penguins John McCall with the blues John Dean Deneen with the Flyers Andrew Baton T with the Stars Jack Basma Jain with the Avalanche and John McCall with the Canadians Avalanche obviously you've got chances a lot of this is 1920 products. So you've got chances with Kale McCar there Let's look You've got the devils Jack Hughes Canucks Quinn Hughes Rangers Igor Shisterkin quite a bit of options here guys. So It looks like we've got an offer jets for the blue jackets. You also have the Sabres up for trade There is one 1819 box in here 1819 SPX the rest of it is 1920. So I'm gonna sort this by team name guys So only the two trade offers so far Jets are up for trade specifically for the blue jackets So Chris Maxwell if you're in the chat Winnipeg jets up for that or Aaron has the Buffalo Sabres up for trade Not a good another minute or so. Okay, everyone. We're back There was a little bit of trade talk, but in the end nothing so We're sticking with it Mike Krasinski last-pot mojo there with the Carolina Hurricanes You got all those spots designated from the ice 12 box giveaway Good luck to everyone Here's our giveaway at the end Matthew Barzol future watch 9 5 10 So that no matter what happens in this break. That's always gonna be up there for the end We'll start with the rookie set Get the retail stuff out of the way first. So you got this You've got the two the series one series 210 and then the series one Retail box then we'll get into series one hobby and then into the more Hits and stuff like that with ice synergy SPX trilogy and SPA SP authentic Jack Hughes obviously going to the New Jersey Devils Mike Presensky with the spot he won Kapokako Rangers That is going to Mike Presensky as well. Nick Suzuki with the Hobbes Canadians that's going to John McCall Bemstrom blue jackets Chris Maxwell Barrett Hayton with the Arizona Coyotes Dictowock Kirby dock Blackhawks Peter Tometis Phillip Zadina red wings Edwin Hawk Nikita Goosev Devils Adam Fox Rangers Kale Fleury Tobias Bjornfoot With the LA Kings going to Wesley Thomas Tara Horos Noah Dobson New York Islanders Mike Krasinski Quinn Hughes Vancouver Canucks. That's going to the Colin Sullivan Eric Barnstrom Ottawa Senators Mike Krasinski Elvis Merz Lincoln blue jackets Victor Olsen Buffalo Sabres Aaron Salinas Carter Vergesh Tampa Bay Lightning John McCall Cody Glass the Golden Knights going to David Larson Vili Hanola Winnipeg Jets Amber Bishop Ross Miss Sondine Maple Leafs Mark Patonte Kubalik doing good so far in the restart polling Boequist Kail McCar Colorado Avalanche Jack Mazmajian and the Otto Elvis Merz Lincoln's Columbus blue jackets Chris Maxwell very nice No Jake release day for luminaries is tomorrow. So now we're going to go to the tin start with series one Yeah, no worries Jake We'll do the packs and save the glossy till the end so as any team come out and surprised you guys in the the qualifiers Either good or bad. Oh and for anybody Watching the replay on this We'll do a recap at the end of the break after the randomizers so Feel free to watch however long this video is or fast forward to the end Well, we'll do a hit recap for you guys Yeah, Brad. I mean it's the restart just is so interesting we were the Jassy's team was watching that a Carolina game pretty closely one of our customers over on Instagram had a Nice little parley that was based off of that last Game was based off of that. I mean Isn't that kind of Tampa Bay's thing though? They look like world beaters and then Comes the end upper-deck portraits Nathan McKinnon Carson Coolman young guns Boston Bruins Wesley Thomas Mika is a bonajad upper-deck canvas going to the Rangers Mike Krasinski Marchand and O'Reilly set one checklist. Yeah, I mean are the are the Rangers the first ones out of the qualifier Or did somebody else get swept already? Chris LaTang upper-deck canvas for the penguins That's going to Steven Balls Vila, Hynola for the Jets going to Amber Bishop young guns Good row and Matthews set one checklist mark Andre flurry shooting stars That's the tin. Here's the glossy Texie a for the blue jackets going to Chris Maxwell Grunge strum for the Kings going to West Thomas and Braunstrom for the Senators going to Christmas Do series two 10? So maybe you guys please play because I know it's a qualifier. Is it just straight record seeding after this or? Is there a reseeding are the brackets already determined? Anybody know will the hoops is it the basketball mixer Paul? They reseed. Okay Yeah, Paul if it sells out, I think there's a filler for it. But yeah, it'll break I think there's a filler attached to it. That'll keep it from That keeps it from being you know brick and right now. Yeah, well, I Think I think that was surprising to a lot of people, right? Like I don't it's not like it was Massive upset, but I mean it wasn't an upset, but I mean I Think there was expected a little bit more of a competition on that PK Subon just for both quists Opeachy Dmitro Timoshoff for the Maple Leafs Mark Patante upper deck portrait rookie Panarin and Bob Rofsky E2 Lewis Drinan for the Carolina Hurricanes Mike Krasinski Yeah Go ahead Paul Andrew Peak Columbus blue jackets Chris Maxwell Alexander Volkov for the Lightning upper deck portraits Tampa Bay Lightning John McCall Jimmy Vessie for the Buffalo Sabres upper deck canvas Aaron Salinas Nicholas Hogg Golden Knights that's going to David Larson young guns the glossy pack Villa Hanola Barrett Hayton and Cody glass I He is going to play, so expect us to see a lot of Joe Del in the near future, with your attention too. It's amazing, you know, to pick up the show with Mike Trapp. But he is ready now, and he can go to Mike Trapp here tonight, to after this before games guys back in the lineup. After his first job with Mike, Jess, and all he does, tips him, and it's a whole run. His first, he's got a team over. You know, I was just really good at prediction. That's another game. Well, next up is going to be the series one retail. So does anybody know with awards for hockey? Are they including the qualifying games, or anything like that? I know with basketball they decided that the awards are all going to be based off of what happened before the stoppage. Are they just regular season? So rookie of the year. What's everybody's pick? They did announce the top three. Okay, so Quinn? Quinn? Who were the other two that they announced for that top then? McCarr was one of them? Okay, so Kubolik was one of the final three? So I mean, so far in the restart, I think Kubolik's had a pretty decent little restart. Oh, has it Jack? See, that's the thing is, like, how would you say, like, if they announced who the final three are, I would assume for them to say that these are the top three that the voting has to have already been done. Because how could you not? Let's say that Kubolik just goes absolutely crazy in the restart, qualifiers, and, you know, they make a deep run or anything like that. How do you not put that into your mind when thinking about it? So I feel like for something like that, they would have to already voted. Ryan McDonough, portraits, Tampa Bay Lightning, John McCall. Miko Koyvu, upper deck canvas, going to the Minnesota Wild Stephen Bayless. Lean Bergman, Young Guns for the Sharks, David Duffy. Okay, that's cool. Where, like, every day it's a different award that's announced. I know with baseball they usually, like, give them the physical award or give it to them in person at the World Series. Jack Eichel, UD portraits, Buffalo Sabres, Aaron Salinas, Kale Fleury for the Canadians. That's going to John McCall. Young Guns there? Yeah, no, there's, I mean, as much as I'd like to go to Vegas, I'll think that's in the cards. Justin Brown, UD canvas for the Kings. All the same just Kings, West Thomas. That's a cool picture of Ross with Stalin. I had heard or read about a rumor that the Ducks were going to make a play for Jack Eichel and pretty much give away a bunch of young prospects. Nice, Young Guns, Victor Olison, Buffalo Sabres, Aaron Salinas. But I haven't seen anything or heard anything since that first rumor. The Ducks fan, I'd be okay with that. Do the Canucks have the number one again? I know the randomizer happened. I think the Kings ended up in second, right? Damn, they potentially have it? Wait, I thought, I thought the Ducks already were, I thought they already did the randomizer. I thought the Ducks ended up in, like, fifth or sixth spot for the draft. Didn't they do a random lottery earlier? Okay, that's what I thought. I was like, what are we talking about? I remember the Kings beat a ton of odds and ended up with the number two. The Ducks, I think, ended up in the fifth or sixth pick. I think we moved up or moved down one spot from what our chances were. Something crappy, of course. Tonya, it's fixed in the Kings' favor. Two through eight. Quinn Hughes, UD portraits. Canucks going to Colin Sullivan. Carter Hart, Canvas. Flyers, John Dunning. Yeah, they're very funny. I love that. Scott Sovereign for the Senators. That's going to Mike Krasinski. Young guns there. So how do they determine number one? Lungquist, portraits. Rangers. Mike Krasinski. Kevin Stenland. Young guns for the Blue Jackets. Chris Maxwell. So Brad said each loser will have a 12.5% chance. Okay, so in the restart, eight teams that are out of the qualifier first have a chance at the number one. But if not, they end up with the ninth through the 16th, right? Or 15th. Andreas Jonsson for the Maple Leafs, upper deck, Canvas. Going to Mark Matanti. Okay, well, that's kind of cool. Andrew Ladd. Game Jersey for the Islanders. Going to Mike Krasinski. Blake Lazat. Young guns for the Kings. Going to Wesley Thomas. And that was retail series one. Mike Lazowski. Honestly, guys, in Disney Pixar movies, I have to say, I think Monsters Inc. might be one of my favorites. It's incredible. It's timeless. You know? It reminds me of that movie with Fred Savage from back in the day where he becomes friends with that monster. I don't remember the name of that movie, but it reminds me of a cartoon version of that movie. I got to watch that movie. It's so good. Remember, it starts with like a... It starts with what's it called? A bedtime story or something like that. So, series one. Hobby. Is that Princess Bride Jack? Is that really that movie? I remember the movie. I loved it. But I don't remember it being called that. Doesn't it end... Little Monsters. That's the one, Brad. No, no, no. That's the one. Little Monsters. That's the one. Because doesn't it end with them ending up... I'm kind of mixing it up with Goonies. Where he ends up like... Not the one with Andre the Giant. That's Princess Bride. Little Monsters. Doesn't he end up on a beach at the end of the scene? Or like the movie? I keep getting that and like Goonies mixed up. I haven't seen them both in obviously a long time. But yeah, Fred Savage is like friends with a legit, actual monster that's played by an actor. Oh, okay. So after these, these are the heavy pack stuff. You know, stuff. Other than SP authentic, the rest of it's kind of just shorter on packs, higher on hits. Aggressive with the mat. It's happening. So what's a... What's Jack, what's your favorite monsters? Or not Monsters Inc. But Disney Pixar movie. I don't think Monsters University was as good. But I can see him doing a spin-off movie about Boo. I'd watch that. Nemo. That's a good one. Not into the animated movies. That's okay. Bugs Life? I'm trying to remember. It was weird. When Bugs Life came out, there was all those insect movies that came out at the same time. Like Ant Life. Or Ant Movie with Jerry Seinfeld. That was terrible. But it's so... You just have to watch it. There was the Ant Movie. And then there was... Wasn't there like an Ants movie too? Like there were two different Ant movies. That were like somehow competing with each other at the same time. Bee Movie is the one with Jerry Seinfeld. There you go. I like Coco. That was awesome. Good story. Retro. Rudolph Balsers. For the Senators. Going to Microsinski. Claude Giraud. For the Flyers. Going to John Dunning. T.J. Oshie. Shooting Stars. Carter Hart. Next Generation. Flyers. John Dunning. I've seen Repo Man. For some reason I cannot remember anything about the storyline. The movie or anything like that. Rocky Horror is incredible Jack. I remember so... Every year at... Who knows if they'll ever do it again. But every year at... At Universal Studios. When they do their Hollywood horror scary Halloween stuff. They do... Blake Wheeler. Uppereduct Canvas. Winnipeg Jets. Amber Bishop. They do a live action Rocky Horror reproduction that's really good. Just like a stage play. Roddick Foxka. For the Dallas Stars. Dallas Stars going to Andrew Botanti. That's the acetate. Jakub Brana. Next Generation. Washington Capitals. Chris Maxwell. Colin White. Canvas for the Senators. That's going to Microsinski. I can't... Honestly for the life of me I can't remember anything with Repo Man. Dante Fabra. Nice rookie there. Young Guns. For the Nashville Predators. Amber Bishop. Ryan McDonough. Portraits. Tampa Bay Lightning. John McCall. Ryan O'Reilly. Energy. Going to the Blues. John McCall. Yeah, Jack. They all dress up. They all dress up as characters from it. Jonathan Taves. Energy. Chicago Blackhawks. Peter Tmitis. Phillip Zidina. Uppereduct Portraits. Rookies. For the Red Wings. That's going to Edwin Hawk. Zach McEwen. For the Canucks. For the Canucks. For the Canucks. For the Canucks. For the Canucks. For the Canucks. For the Canucks. For the Canucks. For the Canucks. Going to Colin Sullivan. Carson Coolman. For the Bruins. Wesley Thomas. Young Guns. Portraits. Sebastian Ajo. For the Carolina Hurricanes. Mike Grasinski. John Tavares. For the Maple Leafs. Mark Patanti. Kyle Okposo. Uppereduct Exclusive Number 200. Buffalo Savers. Aaron Salinas. Patrick Waugh. Joaquim Nygard. Wauquem Nygard. Wauquem Nygard. Wauquem Nygard. Wauquem Nygard. Wauquem Nygard. Wauquem Nygard. Wauquem Nygard. Wauquem Nygard. Wauquem Nygard. Wauquem Nygard. For the Oilers. Edmonton Chris Maxwell. Young Guns there. Bo Horvat. Canvas. For the Vancouver Canucks. And Colin Sullivan. Brent Burns. Energy. San Jose Sharks. David Duffy. Uppereduct Portraits. Clayton Keller. Arizona Coyotes. Nick Talwalk. Vile Heinola. For the Winnipeg Jets. Amber Bishop. Young Guns. And that was the Hobby Box. Series 1. For the Winnipeg Jets. For the Winnipeg Jets. For the Winnipeg Jets. For the Winnipeg Jets. For the Winnipeg Jets. And that was the Hobby Box. Series 1. Cool. So one last box. It's kind of pack heavy. So we'll do SP Authentic. 1920. Is David Byrne the guy from Rocky Horror? Is he that guy or who is David Byrne? Why can't I think of him? Are we talking talking heads still? David Byrne. David Byrne. David Byrne. David Byrne. David Byrne. David Byrne. David Byrne. David Byrne. David Byrne. David Byrne. David Byrne. Talking heads, okay. I forget which which concert it is, but they have a video I love watching it's like their their live concert, but I don't think it was like a actual concert I feel like it was just one long music video. It was just them performing though They're already entertaining a lot. I've specifically remembered he's wearing a suit that's like At least three to four sizes too big for him Very funny. It's an image. It's hard to to forget Yeah, all I remember is like I think the keyboardist is very uh Very eccentric looking. There's a lot of a lot of a lot of stuff going on in that video I guess I think that might be a jack It's like an hour long or something like that 1920sp authentic well Well, there's the redemption future watch rookies ryan polling And I believe that is the canadians, correct if i'm wrong Let me know john mccall montreal canadians. I believe ryan polling Yeah Congrats, john So that's the future watch that we were matt murray essentials spectrum effects pierre luke dubois So what's the uh, can somebody explain to me What the scratch off is on the back of these? Uh, that's going to the blue jackets and chris maxwell That's your team jack karson coolman future watch spectrum effects boston bruance westley thomas Wow future watch patch auto ross miss sondine 98 of a hundred Very nice patch there too toronto maple leaves mark patanti Congratulations I'm gonna say typically don't you only get one of these? per box future watch rookie auto authentic moment stomp coast sedano chara cook kinemi limited bob ross ski cane So i'm guessing that those have all been uh redeemed essentials our temi panoran winners gratski future watch cj seuss Winnipeg jets amber bishop numbered to 999 jacob slaven limited carolina hurricanes grisinski alexander barkoff essentials And braden shen ends that one he was so what uh Obviously with the restart going on weird to look forward, but what big changes does anybody see in the uh offseason this year big moves players or anything like that trades signings yeah I mean Do you think they're gonna do it on a one year like Thing brad or do you think that they're going to just say hey? It's a blip like They can't be really consideration for a you know a move like that Uh, let's go spx Then synergy then ice or no Let's go synergy both of those boxes then do that spx it's hard, you know obviously everybody's gonna be like Everybody's gonna hurt this season think a lot of people that we're looking forward to you know free agent deals and stuff like that might have a some wide awakenings You know, I think that's kind of factored in a lot of different stuff. I think that's why I In baseball mookie bets who was pretty open about testing free agency and you know, he was gonna make the push the market up for all future players and he's gonna take the base contract available and You know openly said that he was going to take the test free agency and then all of a sudden everything happened all future kind of went up into question and Immediately ended up with a long-term contract. So What's up, dude, man? Holt B. Ancrofford Petrangelo No Yeah, man, that was rough That was rough Rafferty Rookie for the Canucks Going to Colin Sullivan Connor McDavid all-star journey to 899 Oilers Chris Maxwell impactful performers Pier Luke Dubois These are their interesting cards. They have like different layers to them Mackenzie McEachurn Rookie to 399 For the st. Louis Blues. That's going to John McCall Eric Carlson all-star journey Going to the Ottawa Senators And Mike Krasinski. That's number to 899 Ryan Kufner Detroit Redwings Blake Lizotte to 199 For the Kings Wesley Thomas Brady Kachuk Eric Brandstrom Kapo Kakao to 899 rookie journey New York Rangers Mike Krasinski Alexander Barkoff Alexander Barkoff Max Jones to 99 exceptional beginnings Anaheim Dux Phillip Miegel Ryan Polling Millennial Impact Drew Dowdy Barrett Hayton exceptional beginnings to 999 for the Arizona Coyotes and Nick Talwalk Sensational season Sydney Crosby Barrett Hayton Rudolph Balsers to 399 for the Senators Mike Krasinski Sydney Crosby and NHL journey to 999 Petrupp Hengwinds Stephen Bellis Carter Hart Kirby Talk Star Quest Die Cut And Dylan Larkin That's the first box of synergy Which one did I mispronounce, Jack? McKekrin First one Oh, Mackenzie McKekrin There you go For the Blues That makes much more sense I was like McEacherin McKekrin sounds good Second box of synergy And then after that, 1819 SPX Then 1920 ICE And then 1920 Trilogy Gabe, I believe so I think there's a basketball mixer that was pretty close To I think there was a filler For that to close out Packs just shred apart There's also a baseball mixer, but I think there's a couple of uh A couple of prism baseball boxes That need to sell out to fill that up There's a couple fillers on that, I think Yeah, it's It's weird It's like the thinnest stuff there is, Will Just falls apart Kutcher off Peter Morazek Otto for the Carolina Hurricanes Mike Grzinski Brent Burns Connor Clifton Trent Frederick To 399 for the Boston Bruins Going to Wesley Thomas John Tavares To 999 For the New York Islanders Mark Grzinski Kevin Stenland Rookie Max Jones To 899 Anaheim Ducks Phillip Miegel Austin Matthews Number one of 799 NHL Jersey Going to the Toronto Maple Leafs Mark Patanti And Elias Petterson Nico Strum Exceptional Beginnings To 399 Minnesota Wild Steven Ballas Nico Hisher Lenin Impact Julian Gauthier Joel Esperance To 999 Dallas Stars Andrew Patanti Sydney Crosby Impactful Performer Sydney Crosby Cool die-cut looking thing Kail McCarr To 799 Rookie Journey That's going to the Colorado Averdlanche Jack Besmajil Austin Matthews Brandon Gignac Adam Fox To 199 New York Rangers That is Mike Grzinski Nathan McKinnon Carter Hart Noah Dobson To 999 For the Islanders And Mike Grzinski And Peca Rene Sensational Seasons This dude looks like a really skinny Owl Roker Like an older version of skinny Owl Roker Cool 1819 SPX The only night uh product that's not 1920 So different rookie class in this But every pack is a hit And we do still have some of this stuff available for personal breaks So you can always join us on jaskies.com On our Instagram feed And inquire about personal boxes on a lot of this stuff So the first hit is Andre Sveshnikov Black Lustreous Rookies To 299 Carolina Hurricanes Mike Grzinski Second hit Alex Ovechkin To 299 Washington Capitals Chris Maxwell Third Andreas Johnson Rookie Otto To 249 For the Toronto Maple Leafs And Mark Batanti Well I don't recall that But I'm assuming it was a classic fight I'll have to go look it up after this YouTube that I watched uh I forget which video who it was But I watched an old school video of somebody With a one punch knockout That's pretty incredible And last but not least Jordan Greenway Lustreous Rookie Relic From the Minnesota Wild And Steven Bayless You guys last up you got Trilogy And a box of ice Let's go with ice first And don't forget after this We are randomizing off that Matthew Barzal Future Watch 9510 Otto So these last boxes were back to the 1920 rookie class So good luck everyone Last couple chances Patterson Green And Otto Elvis Merlinken We hit one of him earlier too Columbus Blue Jackets Chris Maxwell That's number to 399 Ice Premier's Auto Matthew Barzal We'll be giving away one of his cards coming up Mitch Marner Green Carson Kuhlman I've seen his name a bunch tonight too Boston Bruins Exquisite Rookies to 399 Going to Wesley Thomas Matt Kachuk Orange Zach Senchin Relic Going to the Bruins also Wesley Thomas Huberdue Green And Ice Premier Emile Benstrom Columbus Blue Jackets to 499 Going to Chris Maxwell Copatar Green And Ice Premier Giovanni Smith To 999 for the Detroit Red Wings And Edwin Hack And that was ice And last box 1920 Trilogy Last night pulled a Jonathan Taves Ice scriptures Otto Out of one of these boxes Very nice stuff That was over on the personal side Yeah, well it was really nice It's the um The card is completely like It literally feels like uh like some of the glass Like straight from uh from one of the games Really thick Clear acetate Otto And last box guys Good luck everyone And for anybody that you know is still up Baby hasn't hit anything yet Can turn around real quick with a randomizer Yeah, just a big old piece of plexiglass With obviously his image on it And then uh his Otto on the clear part Pretty cool looking I think I took a picture of it I'll show it to you after this They're unnumbered but But yeah, Gabe was there It was a surprise that's for sure So there can be some incredible things in here Let's see if uh See if we can find another one in here Let's see if they did it for any of the rookies Good luck everyone Last box Then we go to the randomizer All over Walshram Rookie for the Islanders Uh Mike Krasinski Zach McEwen Rookie renditions Red to $7.99 Vancouver Canucks Colin Sullivan Rudolph Balsers And Ryan Polling We pulled a redemption Otto of his earlier Canadians John McCall That's uh rookie premier trilogy Otto to $3.99 Very nice Riley Stillman Oliver Walshram Relic To $4.99 Rookie Premier New York Islanders And Mike Krasinski Jack Hughes Rookie renditions trilogy Just the bass but still Good name Phillip Zadina Rookie premiers to $4.99 Detroit Redwings Edwin Hock Ryan Polling bass Rookie renditions Alexi Cerella Rookie renditions Red to $7.99 For the Chicago Blackhawks Peter Tometis Trent Frederick Bass Rookie And Rossmas Sondine To $9.99 Trilogy Rookie Premieres Toronto Maple Leafs And Mark Patanti You guys that was the break And now the randomizer for the Matthew Varsol Good luck everyone May random.org forever be in your favor Isn't that from uh what's that movie So we have the list of everybody that's involved The original list from David Down to Stephen Yeah and Colin this is include uh break credit So as the break originally said Top five spots will be getting something Number one spot will be getting the Matthew Varsol SP Authentic 1617 Rookie Auto 9 5 10 BGS Spots two three four and five will all be getting $50 in break credit That will be sent out tonight as well So good luck to everyone Here's the list Like we showed David down to Stephen And we're going to get a new dice roll here Figure out how many times we're going to randomize this And we're going to do it a two and a four six times One two three four five and sixth and final time Wesley Thomas with the Matthew Varsol Mike Krasinski, John Denene, Mike Krasinski And David Duffy with $50 in break credit Congratulations to everybody I'm Sean with jaspyscasebreaks.com That was Jaspy's 11 box NHL bubble hockey mixer Random teams And we'll see you guys next time


There was a lost episode of SpongeBob SquarePants that remained shrouded in mystery for years. It was called The Leaping Lighthouse, and its tale was one that would send shivers down the spines of even the bravest of people who claimed to have seen it. It was contained inside Nickelodeon's archives, and Nickelodeon has never released it since. However, on an obscure internet forum, the entire episode had been leaked. There is how it went. The episode began on a peaceful night in Bikini Bottom, with SpongeBob SquarePants tucked snugly in his pineapple home, ready to drift off into the world of dreams. Little did he know, his night of rest would soon turn into a nightmare of epic proportions. As SpongeBob closed his eyes and began to doze off, he found himself transported into a strange and eerie dreamscape. In his dream, he found himself standing on a deserted stretch of beach, with nothing but the sound of crashing waves filling the air.  SpongeBob's heart raced as he realized the lighthouse was alive and seemed to be fixated on him. With each step SpongeBob took, the lighthouse leaped closer, its beam of light cutting through the darkness like a knife. SpongeBob's legs pumped furiously as he tried to escape, but no matter how fast he ran, the leaping lighthouse was always right behind him, its menacing presence growing larger with each passing moment. Just when SpongeBob thought he couldn't run any further, he stumbled upon a hidden cave nestled in the cliffs. With a burst of speed, he dashed inside, hoping to find sanctuary from the relentless pursuit. Inside the cave, SpongeBob found himself surrounded by darkness, his breath coming in ragged guests as he waited for the inevitable. To his surprise, the leaping lighthouse didn't follow him inside. Instead it remained outside, its glowing eyes scanning the cliffs for any sign of movement. As SpongeBob watched from the safety of the cave, he realized that the leaping lighthouse was nothing more than a figment of his imagination, a manifestation of his deepest fears and anxieties. With this realization, the lighthouse began to fade away, its glow giving until it vanished completely. With the nightmare finally over, SpongeBob awoke with a start, his heart still racing from the intensity of his dream. As he lay in bed, he couldn't help but laugh at the absurdity of it all. Those who watched the episode were baffled at it. After all, even the most mundane things could take on a life of their own, even a simple lighthouse. This is like something I would see in Danger Mouse.


And yet to me, physical intimacy, sex, is one of the most intimate things you can do. While Jay Shetty says in his new book, it takes about 40 hours to get to know someone at a base level. I say it takes 100 hours of face to face time just to reach level one of trust. And Jay goes on to say it takes about 200 hours to build a friendship with someone, 200 hours. And that is face to face. That isn't over the telephone. That's a lot of time and yet people will have sex barely knowing someone, barely knowing someone for a few hours of their life.


Welcome to the 21 convention Miami, Florida. Our next speech is of a pretty interesting guy. I follow him personally on social media, and it's really cool to actually introduce him on stage. He's a former NFL player, turned primal living coach, Joe DiBonardo. Thank you. I'm going to open up this talk with a little skit. Let me know if this has ever happened to you.  I'm going to discuss how I got myself in this pain, how I got myself out of this pain, and why I'm passionate about helping others who are looking to live a healthier life. You see, playing in the NFL with the likes of Junior Seau and the San Diego Chargers may sound glamorous. And you probably think I made a lot of money, and I don't have to work. But the truth is, is I didn't play that long. And it came with a hefty price. The smashing hits and combination of the poor nutrition for sports performance left me broken, riddled in pain and suffering with inflammation. I grew up here in Miami, Florida, about a couple of miles, actually, from this hotel. And I grew up as an overweight child. I ate the typical standard American diet. That's me right there on my way to being the Michelin man, or the Pillsbury Doughboy. And I ate the typical cereal for breakfast and sandwiches for lunch, and more carbohydrate foods for dinner, and became very overweight and self-conscious at a young age. And as you know, growing up or spending time in Miami here, it's a predominantly Latin community. Well, I grew up as a minority here in Miami, Florida, down the street. So early on, I turned to sports. I turned to sports for a couple of reasons. One, to manage my weight, to build myself up mentally and physically, and then also to gain acceptance from my peers and respect. Football and I seemed to be the perfect fit. It was that sport where I could train, keep myself in shape, manage my weight from getting out of control. But then I could take all my frustrations out on the field on those kids that were picking on me during the school hours. Well, played football all the way through as a child. And then coming out of high school, I wanted nothing more but to play at the college level. It was something that I had seen all around. There were former athletes on the wall at school that were wearing that uniform and playing in college. I wanted just to see what it was like, just to put that uniform on, to feel what it was like to be a college football player and play in front of thousands of people. So guess how many scholarship offers I had coming out of high school? Anybody have any? Guess? Four. Zero. I had zero scholarship offers coming out of high school. So my father and I, we put together a highlight reel of all my games of that year, my senior year. And we packed up the station wagon and we went to visit a half dozen schools. And the very last school that we stopped at was called Appalachian State University. It's in the northwest corner of the mountains in North Carolina, far away from the beaches of South Beach. And I remember vividly just my father and I and the coach sitting down at his desk and the coach explaining to me why I should come to Appalachian State and why I should walk on as an athlete. Walking on means you go out for the team without a scholarship in the hopes of trying to earn a spot and potentially earning one. Well, the coach then told me that there were four starters on defense that were former walk-ons. So I said to myself right there, I go, man, this has got to be the best chance of me to get on the field at some point. So I decided that I was going to walk on at Appalachian State. After the very first day of practice, I knew that I could play at that university. I knew it. Coming from Miami with all the talent down here that I'd played against growing up in high school and getting up there, there was out without question. I knew that I could play there. And after my first year, I earned a half of a scholarship. And by my red shirt sophomore year, I was the starting middle linebacker for the mountain years and I set a record for the most tackles by a sophomore in school history. I then went on to earn a full scholarship. And coming off of my junior year, I had sustained a pretty serious injury, it was a turf toe injury. I was in a game and my foot got caught under alignment and my big toe went all the way back and it tore all the ligaments in that joint. And so in some cases, this turf toe injury can be career threatening. But fortunately for me, I had a successful surgery and I was on schedule to heal in time for my senior season. My senior year, my most prolific college year coming up. I had decided that I was going to give up the sunny beaches of Miami and spend all summer in North Carolina training with the team to prepare for this big event, this big year. Upon my return, I was about at the end of my first week of summer workouts. I was in the weight room and finishing up a workout and my strength and conditioning coach came up to me and he said, hey Dibo, you have a phone call and it's your mom. And I looked at him strangely. So I walked over to the office and I picked up the phone and I said, yeah mom.  And we don't know where he's at. So I hung up the phone and I headed on down to the mountain to be with my mother. My father had flown from Miami to Arizona to be with his sister who was having a gallbladder surgery that he had had and he wanted to be with her during that procedure. He got there the night before. He was able to visit with her and then the next morning he was to pick her up and take her back to the convent where she lived and worked. Well he didn't show up and he didn't tell anybody where he was staying and American Express wouldn't release any information of any of his charges. So for nearly three days my father went missing and finally on the third day we got a call from the police department notifying us that they had found my father deceased on the floor of the hotel room. This was devastating news for a 21 year old man. My father was my biggest fan, my biggest supporter. I returned to Miami for the funeral and my mom insisted about two weeks after the funeral my mom insisted that I return back to North Carolina to continue my summer workouts. Well reluctantly I returned to North Carolina and when I got back I still had this numbness feeling about me and I developed this mindset that I call tunnel vision where there was nothing or nobody that was gonna get in the way of me achieving the goal of having the best year possible. So I went on to have a really good senior season. Very good in fact I was elected captain by my peers and about halfway through the season my coach pulled me aside and said hey Debo he goes you're starting to get looks from the NFL scouts. And I looked at him like are you serious? Like this was something that was a dream so far away that you never imagined would ever happen because as a kid you're watching it on TV but you don't ever think that it could really happen. Also 1% of college football players actually go to the NFL. Well at the conclusion of my senior year I worked out for over 25 NFL coaches and scouts. And I wasn't projected to be a draft pick or a high round draft pick. I was hoping to be signed as a free agent, a rookie free agent. This means each team brings in signs about a half dozen players the day after the draft to come in and compete for a roster spot. So I'll never forget I was in my dorm room and on Monday after the draft and I was camping out by the phone and the phone rang and I picked it up and I said hello. The man on the other line said this is the scout from the San Diego Chargers and we're calling to see if you're still available. I said yes sir I'm still available. He goes we don't have much to give you for a signing bonus just about $1,000 but we'd like to bring you in and compete for a spot. Yes sir thank you very much. I hung up the phone and I jumped up and I was like yeah baby I'm going to the league.  Just one year ago I had lost my father of a heart attack and a year later I was going to the NFL. So you never know how certain things can change your life for the better. Sometimes when you think that it's not. Well there I was walking the hallways of the dorm room one minute and three days later I'm sitting in the cafeteria having lunch with my idol and eventually mentor Junior Seau. I eventually went on to make that team that year. It was a rough ride.  The pressure and the stress that you're under. There were guys that I broomed with that were just that would pray every night praying to bake the team. It was just this atmosphere of high stress, high tension. There were even guys that just walked out. I saw some guys that were in my position that couldn't take it and they just quit. I said to myself, how could you quit with this chance that you have but some guys did. The pressure was really high. Well I eventually went on to make that team. I was released and I was re-signed and then life in the NFL baby. Let me tell you, all right. What do you like to do for fun?  Okay, gun, sex, anybody else? Okay, so race cars or fixed cars work on them? Okay, so imagine getting paid a lot of money to, well, what was the one you mentioned? Shoot guns, imagine you got paid a lot of money to just go to the range and shoot guns, right? Imagine just doing something that you like to do, and then getting paid to do it. Playing in the NFL was that. Playing in front of 70,000 people was the ultimate.  It was pretty darn cool.  It seemed like we never had to pay for anything. We got invited to all the best parties and all the greatest shows. And people treated you like royalty. Now, the hits that come along with being the NFL are pretty intense too. There's a lot of hard hits going on and a lot of guys like myself that would not give in to pain because unless you're a superstar, okay, and you get hurt, if you get hurt, you get cut.  And I'm talking hits, hard hits, hits to the head, hits to the knee and yeah, this all happens, getting your bell rung and all that stuff. So at the conclusion of my first year, I returned back to Miami to be with my mother where I had planned to train in the off season and then return back to San Diego after a few months. Well, guess what? After about a month or two of being home, I got a call from my agent telling me that the San Diego Chargers weren't gonna bring me back for whatever reason, they decided to move in a different direction. There I was at the top, living at the top, living the dream, and then there it was taken right away from me. Okay, see that NFL also stands for not for long. You may have heard that. I was there one year. That football itself just being taken away from me. Hey guys, have you ever had that one thing that you love that woman that you love ripped out of your arms? Like abruptly, that was football for me.  Football was my go-to for my physical fitness. It kept me in shape as a child and brought me all the way to this point. It was my go-to for my emotional outlet to just vent all my frustrations out in the field. Well, taken away in a second, in a second. And there I was, sitting on my sofa, not knowing what the heck I was gonna do at this point. I was, I had a degree in criminal justice and a minor in psychology. I wanted absolutely nothing to do with that. I'll be honest with you. And I remember I was glued to my sofa for about two weeks and I said to myself, dude, you gotta get off the couch and you gotta do something. You need to start bringing in some type of income. So, back then, the classified sections were in the newspaper, so I opened up the newspaper and I started looking for a job. And I found this position. It was a weight room attendant position on Fisher Island, which is a island off the coast of Miami Beach. I said to myself, I could do that. I could work a couple days a week in the weight room, stay in shape, and hopefully get picked up by another team. Well, unfortunately, I didn't get picked up by another team. So I was forced to move on. So, I was working on this island called Fisher Island. I decided to start a personal training business with the knowledge of sports performance and conditioning that I had from playing the sport of football and other sports. I was able to apply it right away. I began training, CEO of large companies, Fisher Island is one of the wealthiest zip codes in all of the US. So, definitely a good spot for that type of a business. I began training celebrities, multimillionaires, and even professional athletes. I was traveling with high profile clientele to different parts of the world. I was going to South America. I was going to Europe. I even spent three months in Africa on a special job. Flying on private planes and staying on luxury yachts and all that fun stuff. Over the years that I was teaching these people how to get healthy, how to attain their goals, how to stay fit, I, myself, the trainer, the coach, was suffering in poor health. I was suffering in chronic pain. Arthritic pain, inflammation, and I was depressed. I was taking over 20 Advil a day. I was icing my back four to five times a day just to get through a day of work, day of life. And I remember waking up one morning and looking at myself in the mirror. Oh, and I was booked for a multi-level disc replacement surgery that the surgeons weren't even sure it was gonna get me out of the pain. They were gonna have to go in through the front and implant this hardware in my lower back. And there was a lot of risks and ramifications involved and they weren't even sure that it was gonna get me out of the pain. And I was like, okay, that's it. Like, no más, all right? It was at that low point in my life. I woke up one morning, I looked at myself in the mirror and I said, how can you go on living the rest of your life like this? At that point, I had decided that I was gonna turn to alternative methods to heal myself. This is something that I didn't think in a million years was possible. Why? Because I come from such a one-sided conventional background where all we did was take pills and have surgeries for injuries and so forth and so on. So when somebody told me about alternative methods, I thought they were crazy, right? Well, guess what? I turned to some primal living, taking fundamentals and principles of our primal ancestors and applying them to today's modern jungle. I had a coach, he would make us practice our fundamentals every day in practice before we practice the rest of the day. Fundamentals such as simple footwork, form tackling, wrapping up, grabbing cloth, taking the man down to the ground. Fundamentals that we used to perform at a high level. So I began to take basic fundamentals of health and apply them to my life. The first fundamental I'm gonna go over for is sleep. Oh yes, glorious sleep. The one we love, yet we tend to neglect so often with phrases such as I'm too busy to sleep or I'll sleep when I'm dead. I once had a teacher tell me that the body only needs five hours of sleep a night to function on. Do you guys like sleep? It's pretty good stuff. Do you have trouble sleeping at night? Who has trouble sleeping at night? You can be honest. Yeah, there's a reason for that. So I have been sleeping, I had been sleeping on average of six hours of night which when did six become the new eight, right? Like oh yeah, six good and I'm solid. Well, did you know that when we sleep our bodies secrete awesome sex hormones such as testosterone and human growth hormone naturally that we need to give us our vitality from day to day to help build muscle and if you're trying to lose weight it's vital to have these hormones secreting properly. Did you know that when we sleep if you're trying to get out of pain high quality sleep will help reduce inflammation and one night of deprived sleep will reduce your insulin sensitivity up to 30%. That means you're gonna wake up feeling hungry and craving sugar for most of the day and you wonder why it's because your blood sugar gets destabilized by low quality sleep. So if you're trying to lose weight or you're trying to get out of pain and you're not sleeping it's gonna be very hard to do that. So by improving my sleep and making sleep a priority I was beginning to reduce inflammation in my body already naturally, okay? No pills, no medicated sleep, high quality natural sleep. So now I'm gonna give you five tips on how to get a good night's sleep. You can start today by doing this, all right? So grab a pen and paper and simple tips. The first one and this is the hardest one of them all for me or for people that I work with people that I teach is making sleep a priority. Number one, making sleep a priority. Number two, avoid creating a second daytime. So as the sun goes down, start reducing the lights in the house and start preparing yourself for sleep naturally. This will give your body a chance to produce the right amount of melatonin that we need to fall asleep but then stay asleep throughout the night. Next, put a curfew on screen time. So if you're trying to go to bed at 10, ideally you should have a curfew of nine and if you're one that's really suffering and trying to improve your sleep not a minute after. Why?  So you could feel exhausted physically but mentally you're still going, all right? The next tip, make your room as dark and cool as possible.  And finally, make two lists, one list of things to do the next day and then a list of things to worry about the next day because we go to bed at night thinking about all this stuff, physically take them off out of your mind and putting them down on paper and putting them on the bedside table. The next fundamental that I use to help heal myself as well as clients is nutrition. Here I was eating a diet for what I thought was a good diet for sports performance and that's what it was believed to be. I was eating a diet high in whole grains, complex carbohydrates and high protein, right? Because I needed all that protein to help build muscle and get bigger and stronger and faster and low fat because fat was always taught to me that it was not healthy for us. So, wow, I was in for a big change. By removing all the foods, like such as the grains and the sugar and the excess carbohydrates, removing all the foods that were wreaking havoc on my system and creating inflammation and implementing real quality whole foods such as quality meats, vegetables, and very importantly, dietary fat. The same fat that doctors had always told me are gonna give me high cholesterol, put me at risk for heart disease and die of a heart attack like my father did. These high quality fats were a huge part in healing myself. Why? Because they contain the omega-3 natural anti-inflammatory properties. So by removing foods that were creating inflammation and implementing foods that would reduce inflammation, I've got the ball rolling now. I'm starting to feel pretty good, all right? Next, exercise. I am no stranger to exercise. I've been doing it probably since I was 14 years old. I had the weight set in my weight room. And exercise can be a double-edged sword. It can be a great tool for many things, but it can also affect you negatively. And I was medicating myself to go and exercise because of the pain that I was in, because I thought exercise was making me feel better, I would release endorphins, it would make me feel good, so I'd work out really hard, medicated, like if I was still playing football, right? And all I was doing was just putting more stress on my body by doing so. I wasn't sleeping properly, then I was exercising, medicated, and I began to fall into a cycle of overtraining. I overtrained myself, even in that state. So, overtraining is one of the most detrimental things you can do to your body.  And also lead to more inflammation and pain. So by exercising more intelligently and putting more emphasis on rest and recovery, I was able to begin to heal myself and reduce inflammation with proper exercise. Because going to the gym three, four times a week is like three to four hours in a week, right? There's 168 hours in the week. So, saying went to the gym three times, what are you doing for the other 165 hours, right? So I began to add a lot more daily movement in my life. I had become pretty much sedentary outside of going to the gym. I would be sitting down a lot, a greater part of the day, so I began to add more daily movement. And on my website, I came up with a commuter workout, which are all different techniques for those that have to commute long distances to and from. Simple techniques such as taking the stairs all the time, parking your car further distance away. It takes 30 minutes to find a parking spot in South Beach. It really does. So, by walking to the store once in a while, it's okay. You may arrive a little bit late, but this daily movement that you add throughout your day adds up over the course of the day, over the course of the week, and can pay dividends on your health by just stabilizing blood sugar and helping you to be more efficient at burning fat. And finally, stress management. Sleep, nutrition, exercise, are all huge components in managing stress without question. But I began to spend more time outside in nature. I began to remove myself from the artificial atmosphere that we live in through most of the day with artificial lighting, and I would start spending more time outside. Performing workouts outside or going for nature walks or kayaking and these sort of things. I began taking my vision out of the box that we live in, the box of watching TV, working on the computer, looking at our handheld device or even sitting in traffic, and expanding my vision on the horizon more regularly. Practicing these techniques more regularly are very helpful in managing stress. We develop a lot of anxiety because of just the crazy work world that we live in now. And a lot of us are driven to anxiety eating. And you could be eating the right foods, but you find yourself, is anybody here eat when they get anxious? You guys notice that? I have that, definitely. So being able to manage your stress more effectively can actually help you manage your weight, not just manage your stress, but it will help avoid anxiety eating. Because even if you're eating the right foods, but you're eating all the time, right? Because you're anxious all the time, you probably need to do a better job at effectively managing your stress. So I eventually went on to heal myself completely by reducing all the inflammation and pain in my body from those four important elements and remove the chains on my back that I've been carrying around for so long. Skin irritations that I had began to clear up. Depression that I had been suffering from. My moods began to improve. And it's funny now because some friends and family are like, they call me an extremist or some type of a health nut. For what? For wanting to sleep eight hours a night, eat real food on a regular basis, engage with nature once in a while.  Because unfortunately, America is really running on Duncan. Without question. Now, I realize that not everybody is going to make a change like I did or like how clients that I work with do. But I look around and I see a lot of people that are suffering from being overweight or being unhealthy, depressed. In pain and have nowhere to turn to. And this upsets me. For this reason I've created primaljo.com. It's an online platform to help more people get healthy naturally. 75% of adults are overweight and 50% are pre-diabetic. So these are pretty, pretty high numbers. On my website, you'll see a lot of what I talked about, what I've spoken about, but there's other information on there. There's a Primal Living Startup Guide, which is a map to get you on the path to good health.  We've heard for so long about heart healthy foods and how important it is to protect our heart from different types of foods. Well, 40% of former NFL players suffer from head brain trauma. Does that concern me? Yeah, that does actually. You know that? But with all the information that's coming out now with the importance of brain healthy foods, I feel like I'm in control of my future for myself, but not even if you're just a former professional football player, but just if you're somebody that wants to have high cognitive function well into your older years. But high quality nutrition and lifestyle will help you avoid the risks of putting yourself at risk for neuro-generative diseases such as dementia, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, and depression. So if you are looking to improve your health and you're looking to better your performance at work or better your performance in your relationship or better your performance at whatever it is that you're doing because this conference is about improving your performance or improving your life. But by becoming healthy and feeling optimal, I believe comes along with looking optimal and performing optimal. So by doing so, you can improve your performance at work by improving your cognitive function. You can improve your relationships. If you're feeling optimal, then you can also feel optimal in a relationship as well. I believe that each and every person is holding a key. And I wanna help those people use that key to open the door to a better and healthier life. So if you're looking to take that first step, apply the four simple fundamentals and start practicing them every day because it's going back to basics that's really gonna lead you to feeling optimal. And if you wanna learn more information, you can go to my website at primaljo.com and you can also come speak to me in the hallway when we're done. All right, let's give it up for Primal Joe. Who's got questions? Hey, thank you for your presentation. Great stuff. I'm actually looking to change my nutrition too. I'm gonna do the elimination diet soon. Awesome. So that's a change. But for those of us who like to weight train, what warnings would you give us? And second part to that is what supplements or what stretches are available for folks that want to maintain good bone health for folks that do wanna weight train? Okay, big fan of weight training. I love it. I don't do it as much as I used to. But so, well, first of all, addressing your sleep and giving yourself the ability to perform in the weight room at a higher level and reducing your risk of injury by improving your sleep and all the other factors. I find that exercise is such a small component to all the others, okay? But weight training's a great type of exercise done properly. Being sure that you warm up correctly. I love a lot of mobility where you can get down and mobilize your joints so that you, it just puts you at less of a risk to injure yourself, but you can get great results from doing weight training. As far as supplements go, I'm not a big fan of supplements. I, oh yeah, I've taken them all, basically. I've taken them all. And excess amount of protein will convert to sugar in the form of gluconeogenesis. So you can actually elevate your insulin levels and increase inflammation and blood sugar by having too much protein and some of those pride protein supplements. You know, I believe now in just getting all the nutrients that you need from high quality food, quality rest and proper stress management. Hi, Joe, thank you. My main question, I had three, but anyway, how should athletes who really want to be competitive optimize their performance and still avoid overtraining? Great question. It's funny because I was one of those guys that always wanted to do more. And so my strength coach would kick me out of the gym because I would want to go in there and train more. But what we don't realize is in a lot of cases, even as an athlete, less, well, an athlete or non-athlete, less is more. So it's so important as an athlete, whether you're at the childhood level or professional level, to give your body ample time to rest and recover. You have to put just as much emphasis and it takes in a lot of cases for these type of individuals like myself, it takes a lot of discipline to put emphasis on rest and recovery as opposed to constantly working out, implementing more working in exercises as opposed to always working out, working in exercises such as meditation, yoga, nature walks, are great ways to recover, great ways to distract these individuals that always want to go, go, go and work out all the time and manage stress. Welcome. I don't have a extension yet. Yes. Hey, Jill, I really appreciate your talk and the time and effort I was able to spend with you earlier in the hallway and I'll be sitting up again. But one of the things I found being grossly overweight, I'm terribly obese, is that I have not been able to manage stress and a lack of sleep to the point that I've been able to out-exercise or out-diet those two. And I know I've done tremendous work towards changing that factor to the point that I've gone to a sleep study and everything else and if you look at my bathroom counter, I look like an addict. I'm not kidding. I probably have 30 different supplements on the counter, vitamin D, magnesium, any litany of amino acids and stuff like that. But one of my questions is I had taken like a series of doses of melatonin. You talked about melatonin being responsible for sleep and everything else. But my concern was the macro dosing of this stuff over a period of time and the fallout effects associated with estrogen and stuff like that. And I think you kind of relatively answered the question that you're not a big supplement guy. Can you talk to that or am I gonna be kind of hinged on trying to figure all that life hacking stuff out on the margins? And that's best served going to the middle on the basics. No, no, I love the question and I work with people like you every day. So it's going back to creating sleep, creating sleep, making sleep your number one priority. Exercise for losing weight is very inefficient. You cannot keep up with trying to lose weight and exercising. You'll just burn yourself out by doing so because you can consume, you know, five, 600 calories in one meal. And if you work out really intensely, you might be able to burn that off in an hour maybe, right? So it's just, and then it just can never keep up. So it's funny because that's how I got to this point because we're working with people for so long and just exercise and not getting the results that I want with people. I realize, man, the exercise component is just such a small part of really feeling optimal and even building muscle. But to go back to what you said is, right, eventually, you know, by supplementing your melatonin you're just inhibiting your body's ability to produce its own. So it's really getting into, and I work with a lot of people on weight loss and it's really dialing in the whole sleep component and making it a priority. And let me tell you guys, sleep can be really difficult for a lot of people. Do you remember walking into the gym for the first time after like months or years or for first time forever? It's really difficult, right? Jogging that first mile or lifting that first weight. Preparing for sleep and cutting off everything is super, super hard, but you can do it. And when you start practicing that every day, day in and day out, you'll become a better sleeper. And if you're trying to lose weight, high quality sleep will stabilize your blood sugar. So you'll be able to make better decisions throughout the day, the next day. So you won't be craving carbohydrates, you won't be craving sugar, you won't be craving food as much as if you were sleeping properly, okay? That also by removing the high carbohydrate foods in your diet, which you're probably having a very hard time metabolizing those, reducing your insulin levels.  You can't go low carb, low fat. I'm sorry, it's just, it's not sustainable. Your body needs some source of energy to pull from. So, fat from energy will keep you sustained for longer periods of time, which will eventually rid hunger and sugar cravings. You will, over time, reduce your production of ghrelin, which is a hunger hormone. It's that signal every time we get that ghrel in our stomach that tells us to go and eat, okay? You can reduce the production of that hormone by eating fewer carbohydrates and you can increase the production of leptin, which is a satiety hormone, by increasing your fat intake. So by getting that under control and improving your quality of sleep, it puts you on such a good track to be successful. Minus all the supplements. This is all that you just have to create new habits. Create new habits and getting rid of all habits. It's not easy, but once you get into it, okay? Sun's going down. Time to get into sleep mode. I need to start preparing my nest. I need to start preparing my bed. You have maybe some type of a nighttime ritual. It starts with that. It starts with suns going down. Oh, okay. I need to start shutting it down and then practicing that every day. Now look, life happens. We're not gonna get the ultimate eight hours of sleep every single night, which I meant to mention. Ideally, on average, seven and a half, eight hours is ideal for most people, for myself and most people that I work with. Some people need more.  Sorry, it's just most people that I've worked with just feel so much better and get so much better results when they're dialing in their sleep. Man, it makes life so much better, makes weight loss easier, makes getting out of pain easier, and you feel really good.  I think we have time for one or two more, so out in the hallway, you're gonna be on demand. Totally. Hi, so thank you so much for your speech. So my mother has fibromyalgia. She works out a lot. So there's some stress associated with that. But very much like you, she's very convinced that pharmaceuticals are her only solution. And so I try to have her adopt this lifestyle of eating differently and maybe adopting yoga and other types of exercises. But what would you say to a person that's not convinced, and I mean, she listens, but she thinks like I'm crazy pretty much. Great question. And I deal with that every day. I work with couples and then, or the one is on board and the other one is not. Third-party information is a great way to present to somebody who's not sure. I just found that when you're constantly talking to somebody and telling them, ah, you need to change what you eat. You need to change how you sleep. It kinda starts to build up some type of resentment there. So by providing her with third-party information, especially in cases like hers, which there's many of them out there that have improved their conditions with fibromyalgia and reduce their intake of pharmaceuticals. And then also leading by example. Leading by example with yourself and sharing how these improvements or these new habits that you're creating have improved your lifestyle. Because the best way to teach somebody is to lead by example. And I've done that with my own family because we get to family gatherings and it's like everybody starts to get a little bit awkward. I don't say anything. I just continue to do what I do and teach what I teach. And since I've been doing that, I've noticed a lot more family members that I wanna help start listening and improving their health accordingly. So those would be two good ones to try. You're welcome. Hey, I've got one quick question. When you were training in the NFL, what did you learn psychology wise to help you stay motivated, to help you push through and to help you just continue even when things were hard? Like what did you say to yourself or in terms of that? Great question. Well, the love for the sport and the desire to be the best that I could be was probably the main things that got me through. Yeah, super stressful atmosphere. People don't realize you can be like cut one day or you have a job one day and then cut the very next day actually. So just staying focused, staying focused on what I was responsible for on the field, what I needed to do to prepare myself mentally and physically to perform as best as I could on the field, not worry about what everyone else was doing. Just same things that we can apply in our, in any job or any business that we're in. And when you do those things and you do them regularly, it takes care of business, it really does. So psychologically very challenging, but yeah, it was just the ultimate to be able to play at that level. So it was something that I was not gonna let go. They were gonna have to grab me by the throat and take me out of there, so to speak. So they got lucky because I was at home when I got the call. Otherwise that might have been really upset, but anyway. Awesome speech. Can you comment on those who really are challenged with motivation in the sense of starting slow? I once had someone say, get your motor running, learn to keep it running, and then learn to rev it. I'll let you expand on that for people who are really struggling, but they're just not gonna do, they can't take that big leap. Right. Can you elaborate? Absolutely. I'm not a big leap guy. I'll be honest with you, when I work with people, I think we have this perception that, oh, I'm gonna get healthy, and we create this mountain at which we think we have to climb to the top of it to be healthy, where just taking that first step is the most important. Don't look at the top of the mountain, just look at the very next step, and the very next step. Just look at what's right in front of you in the present. So don't psych yourself out by thinking, oh, I have to run to be in shape, I have to run three miles a day. I mean, you'd be surprised, you really, when you're practicing the other lifestyle factors that I mentioned in the talk, the exercise component is really not that big. It's really not. And so starting by improving your high-quality sleep, like so for example, I work with people that are in that state, like just what you're saying, and one of the reasons why I have a hard time making that first step, because they feel like crap. They're not sleeping good, they're stressed out. So who the heck wants to start an exercise program when you're already tired and stressed out to begin with? You see? So start taking care of some of those fundamentals, like improving the sleep, and improving your nutrition, and those things start to put you in a different mindset of wanting to go eventually to move your body more and to exercise a little more. Yeah, and if you're carrying around an extra, whatever, 10, 20, 30, 40 pounds, it's harder to move around with that extra weight. But as it starts to come off, for those that have a hard time with the exercise part, or just going, as it starts to come off, you start to feel more willing to want to do those things. So by addressing, I love just going back to sleep, because it's like the root of everything, it's like the root of all success, and nobody seems to be doing it anymore. It's not a very sexy topic, or it's a sexy topic now, but it's not a very sexy thing to do, because it shows maybe weakness, I think, in our society, like sleeping in, or we need to work more and sleep less. I mean, our primal ancestors were working like maybe a couple hours a day in the rest that we're playing, you know? We're playing not overstressed, like the amounts of work and stress that we're just piling on ourselves every day. So de-stressing yourself, sleeping better, man, you'll have a different outlook on getting healthier, or exercise, or whatever it might be. All right, Joe, one last question, but you're gonna get mobbed afterwards. Good. Okay, I actually am a subscriber to high-fat-style dieting, but I feel a big fear that stops a lot of people, and that kinda kept me worried about it for a long time, is the excess, or the excessive calorie count for every gram of fat, and even I haven't been able to find out what actually happens to it.  All right, so good question. So, excess fat, I mean, calories are, if you're gonna, if you're sedentary, whatever calories that you're intaking can lead to weight gain, to a certain extent, right? So, by eating more of a higher-fat diet creates more satiety, which helps you to be more caloric-efficient throughout the day.  Your high-fat meals are very calorically dense. There's no question, it's calorie, calorie for calorie, it's the highest calorie-dense macronutrient there is, but it'll hold you longer in between meals, so you'll help, you will avoid snacking and all the other stuff in between, grazing and so forth and so on. Rid hunger and sugar cravings. It's finding the amount or what percentage of fat works best for you with each meal. What might work best for myself or for sock may work differently for you. So, it's really becoming in tune with your body and realizing what a percentage of fat, carbohydrate and protein works best for me and how I feel and does it make me feel optimal throughout the day. Does that answer your question? Yes. Okay, good. Right, that's all the time we have for Primal Joe. Get with him in the hallways if you have any more questions or visit him at primaljoe.com. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Thank you.