Welcome to Reader Syndicate 3.0, the next evolution of the look into counterculture that is Canada. My name is Matthew, owner of Riot Seeds, and this started as a one-man mission for strain history and breeding science. Over time, it's evolved into something bigger, better, and more of a team effort. We will be joined by members of the Cannaluminati and other friends throughout the seasons to hear their takes on grow techniques, breeding science, strain history, and more. Our mission is to combat the narrative that corporate cannabis and seed posers are obfuscating for their own financial benefit. Welcome to the Underground. We are the Syndicate. Hey everyone, welcome to Reader Syndicate. I'm Matthew. I'm not going to be on this show this week. We kind of are trying to experiment a little bit with other people running it. So when I'm down or I have to get other stuff done, I mean that's always been kind of the goal in thousands. So this week, it's going to be run by Thousand and Cush of the Giants. But we're also going to have, well, Cush of the Giants, Little Hill, and Peach. And it's going to be talking about like the out-brow results, strain-specific type stuff, what does well outdoor. It's a really interesting episode. You guys know me. I really don't like outdoor stuff, but I'm pretty impressed with how well they did. Real proud of it. So I'm stoked to put it out there. And with that, we'll kick it off. I just didn't want to just crash into it. So see you in two weeks. Thanks. All right. Good evening, everyone, and welcome to the Reader Syndicate. Tonight I will be your host Thousandfold, and we are without Matt. Some context. He's having a little bit of tooth trouble, but also we were eventually hoping that Cush could actually host this himself. So we're sort of on the way to that, too. But I am here for tonight. But I'm going to let Cush run the show. So we are joined tonight by Little Hill, Peach's, Cush of the Giants, all crew members that some of you would have met before on the show. And yeah, without further ado, I'll hand it over to Cush. Well, first of all, I wanted to thank Little Hill and Peach's for tagging along and doing this conversation with me. And essentially tonight, we're just going to do a small outdoor recap of the season that we had for outdoor last year. The cleanup and the prep that we have for next season. We're going to be talking about what strains we liked last fall and what worked well, what didn't. And then we're going to wrap it all up by talking about what we're excited to grow for this upcoming season. It's not going to be a super long episode. It's going to be short and sweet and just kind of recap the season and have a discussion about everything that we did. Yeah, so we'll start it off with just what did you grow this last outdoor season that really worked well with you? What were the ones that stood out to you and in your mind, what was your favorite? For me personally, the highlight of last year's outdoor grow were the Sweet 16 hybrids that CSI sent my way. And I played with them and I follow my nose a lot when it comes to cannabis, especially for selecting stuff that I like. My nose is usually one of my main things that I aim after. And all of these Sweet 16 hybrids were just incredibly strong, pungent. I was just at a party a couple of weekends ago and I brought some of the Sweet 16 pineapple. And every time I cracked the jar, people across the room would go, geez, man, what is in that? And it's just the floral notes that come off of it stand out to me out of a lot of the stuff that I grew from this last year. And I got to see its expression across multiple hybrids. I tried Sweet 16 to pineapple, Sweet 16 to Humboldt uppercut, and I tried four different Sweet 16 to Kim D's. And they all expressed that wine fermenting fruit, just really strong odor.  It's so strong and it's odor. So yeah, this year for me, the Sweet 16 hybrids, I wasn't expecting much out of them, but man, they blew my socks off. I'm super happy that I got to try those. I just wanted to needle you a bit about this because you're talking about how are the effects? Are you implying that the effects, they're not quite as strong as some of the other plants? So the Sweet 16 pineapple was sativa leaner, wasn't as strong as the other two hybrids, but when I'm talking about pungent, I'm talking about the smell specifically on the nose. They were all great smoke, the sativa leaner not being as heavy, but they were all very potent, very resonance strains completely covered in resin. I was impressed with what I saw through it. The Sweet 16 that he used has a strong genetic backbone because you could see the similarities across the multiple cultivars he crossed it to. So yeah, one of the other big ones this year that I really enjoyed from CSI was the Triangle Kush Girl Scout cookies. It's another one of his Girl Scout cookie hybrids that I grew that kind of just grows itself. I don't have to baby it and it just really flourishes in my environment. It comes out almost perfect to what I prefer smoking out of cannabis. Just a really good pain relief, has great citrus, great cushy smells and it looks really good in the bag. So once again, continually this is the fourth year in a row that I've tried a couple of different Girl Scout cookie hybrids from CSI's library and they all continually provide this really great smoke for me. Yeah, I got some more that I want to talk about from last year, but I'm going to go ahead and ask Little Hill, what were some of the standouts from your garden last year? What were some things that really stood out to you? I grew a lot of new stuff this year. I had a little extra space to work with and I wanted to figure out what was going to work for me outdoors with. I've been growing strictly outdoors in quite some time. It's probably been, I don't know, six years or so, or seven years. And so like, you know, with new strains and what's popular, I am a commercial guy. I just had to figure out what was going to work in my environment, finish and do well for my grow style, which is pretty hands off organic. The standouts that I'm going to run again next year were mochi runts and I don't know who that strain came from. It was a clone from a commercial nursery. It's a runce plant, but much more vigorous and really high testing in THC and the candy flavor came through and the color came through and really a vigorous plant. So I was a little hesitant to run anything runce because I generally don't like it, but that one definitely won me over. Another one was papaya bomb, which is papaya to THC bomb cross also from a commercial nursery. Huge flowers and just an old like late 90s, early 2000s type of smell of just like strong tropical fruit, hence its name papaya. You don't see a whole lot like that anymore. And it really kind of takes me back to like sweet tooth number three and and some of the stuff I grew when I first started growing. So I was really happy with that one. Funny you should mention those sweet 16 crosses in this little side garden.  I did grow the sweet 16 clone and I liked it a lot not for commercial production, but as far as flavor and having something unique. I love it. I enjoy the smoke. It's really tasty. It's not super potent. But it's a fun plant and I still I still held on to the clone just to figure it out if I might do something with it in the future or not. I'm not sure, but I really did enjoy that clone. And I know the guys that Caleb got those genetics from one of them is a very good friend. The other one's a good friend, but he's since moved away. So I kind of I knew those those the precursors to that to those to those genetics. You know, which kind are we talking about right now. I forgot sweet 16. It's a Mendo perks to a killer queen cross and all those guys are Mendo guys that I knew pretty well that we were all doing it back in it back in the green rush hey days. So it's kind of cool to see that those genetics still sort of mixed up and thriving because they are unique. And it was really a time when you could you could grow stuff that just like the smell jumped out of the bag. Unlike now where it really seems like smell and flavors have all kind of gotten bland and right, you know, the same so it's it's that's a fun one to grow. That was my biggest and like reason for liking that strain was the uniqueness of it. I tried the sweet 16 from Caleb and the first time he cracked the jar and I put my nose in there is like I've never smelled anything like this in cannabis before the fermenting wine, you know, the blackberry wine 69. Yeah, this was at the party. And he also had the blackberry wine, the 69 and both of them were like, these are unique turf profiles that I've never smelled in a plant before. And then those same turps seeing them in the three different hybrids that I got to try last year. I was like, oh yeah, there's shades of it here but just you know little influences from the Kim D or little influences from the Humboldt uppercut. It really shown through and basically covered everything and frost and gave it a good nose. I can imagine the cross to pineapple was great for the nose pineapple was another cut sort of from that same era that all these same people were growing in some form or fashion, because it's the nose jumped out of the bag. And that's really what sold pot for us back then and and honestly that clone the pineapple clone was always a farm favorite for everybody. So that's the stinky one. That's the sweet 16 pineapple. And it's like rotten pineapples. People are looking at me like, what is that? I believe it. I also grew a clone in my little side garden from Caleb. He gave his brother a bunch of selections from Girl Scout Cookies Runtz T1000. And so I kind of I looked at some of the plants he had flowered out and I and I picked the one I like the most. And I grew those out and you know just kind of like it's kind of like what the market seems to want or what they think they want just like purple frosty weed dense. Not really my wanting to ask you one thing little hill like on the T1000 like do you see it as a kind of cookies alternate or something. No, I see it more as an oracle alternate. Yeah, that makes sense. Because it is a oracle leaning phenotype of the cross. And so it's got some of it's like heavily like favors the oracle flavor and and it is a little squat compared to some of the other phenotypes you get out of that crop cross. But it's just it just got added potency added added vigor from a triangle push. And so yeah so what else did I grow dog waltzes ones. I had those from some really old speed. Yeah, that was fun. It was I only got three to pop out of 30. It was it was really really old seed 15 years old give or take. But one of them was pretty bland. The other two had that smell. The green the other one was purple was funny to see that variation I I kept cuts of both of the ones I liked. What else did I grow this year. I grew sour. It's the first time. I was going to say before you go into the sour. I want to add that I don't know if I'm allowed to leak this but there may be that that the pool nuts cut has been found. Maybe I can say that I don't know I'm going to note that and just in case and hasn't been. I don't think we've gotten it yet from the person who said they had it. No, though it's supposed to be on the way but it's been a minute we'll see what happens. I know how it goes everybody gets busy so we will we'll see if it actually if we can actually get our hands on it and if it's actually the real one. I would love I it's my favorite weed all time so I'm I'm really looking forward to getting my hands back on it and introducing it to sort of this modern market. It's it's a stinker it has a great high and it's it's just my favorite weed. So, yeah, those s ones were fun fun to smoke again. It's funny how, and I think this is this is a good segue into sour diesels. I grew sour diesel for the first time in a long time and I grew a lot of it back in the day because there was strong still is strong demand for it but it's funny how like your memory things are always better in your memory. Then then then what they what they really were so I feel like that's going on right now is sour diesel where, whether you have the real cut or not, I feel like there's a lot of cuts that are so similar they're tough to tell apart. The sour diesel I grew is exactly what I remember so so there's that but the, the purple Kim dog are or the dog waltz. Sometimes I call it purple Kim dog. The poodle nuts it's got a lot of names. I was smelling these these two phenos I got and I was like man is this it it's not as gassy as I remember the grapes there but is the gas there. You know is the flavor there doesn't really burn my nostrils and I remember it burning my nostrils or is this just in my head that it'll never be as good as my memories of it just because I've. This these thoughts in my head about how great it was because it's my favorite right of all time. And I think a little bit of that's going on with sour diesel and everybody's saying like this isn't the same one it's not as this it's not like that and I'm like. Well you know a lot of people don't want to admit that like maybe you're holding it on a pedestal in your mind and it's never going to it's you're never going to be able to find the right one or grow it to what you thought it was in your mind right and. Exactly and then add on like everybody's growing under LEDs now everything's different about how we grow and and CO2 and so it's like they're not being grown in these like I mean. Grow rooms in 2005 were so like Stone Age compared to where they're at now. Yeah you know high pressure sodium and carbon filters and most people weren't running CO2 and and and who knows what temperature and humidity fluctuations you're having at night and nobody was as dialed in as they are now so. I don't know like all those little things affect the plant so dramatically on how it expresses itself especially sour diesel you know. Yeah so I don't know just just my thoughts on that. So that's yeah that's that's that's about that's about where I'm at with what I like from last year. Funny you mentioned that with sour D because I think it it also kind of lends credence into volatile Terps. I grew a Kim 91 S one and a snitch free sour D last year that both exhibited the volatile Kim strong traits that you get on the nose. But the resin after harvest and after sitting in their jars they morphed quite a bit and that that you know that sour diesel that I'm used to smelling or that that Kim dog that I'm used to smelling. It like you said it changes or my perception of it has changed a little bit. It's it's not it's not exactly what I thought it was every you know now that I've gotten a chance to throw it in the garden. Yeah yeah it's everything everything makes a difference your your curing process your. I mean yeah it's it is a finicky plant and those things are volatile and and everything makes a difference and also a lot of us were probably growing at smaller scale 20 years ago or 15 years ago. Then we are now or vice versa and like all those things just make a difference regardless of whether you think they are or not it's every little thing is different now. Peaches you you and Buck also have a sour correct maybe not a bad way for you for you. Yeah we did four of them outside this year just in 10 gallon pots on the back of the hill because all the big pots were filled but she didn't really get outside she was a heavy feeder. Definite heavy feeder I could give her as much in her 10 gallon as the 45s were getting and it kept her happy. So but she did good and honestly it's it was it's one of my favorite smokes right now when it finally got dried and cured. It tasted just like it used to taste back in the day like I remember getting it from up in the bay in like 2000 and it was one of the first weed.  I never forgot that weed and to smoke it again. It's it's there. That's what it is like the Turks are there and it was it was a good plant. I'm really happy with it. I'm planning on putting it back out next year. A few more of them a little bigger but I was happy with it. It did good and then so it was one of my favorites. She went the sour went 11 weeks all the way into November but luckily she was smaller and no mold no nothing like she was a champ. They got rained on and everything and no mold she purpled up really good was a beautiful fall colors. Yeah she she was always mold resistant at my place. She could get rained on quite a bit and hold up. Yep. She got rained on I want to say like three or four times and then you know towards the end letting her finish up. She was getting the dew in the mornings and I was a little worried but nothing no powdery mildew no botchitis just a real champ of a plant. Yeah big flowers but flowers. Definitely a loud airflow. Yeah and then I'd squashed some of the flower just recently into flower rosin and I haven't got to smoke it yet but man was it it was so it wasn't come off the paper. It was so oily. It was one of those types that you know that just so gassy smelling and stuff that it just that that rosin is not going to set up. How was the yield on it? I honestly I haven't waited yet to see what it yielded. I literally pressed it on the last day and threw it in the freezer and came home with it and it's still in the freezer. It was it always did really well for for yield and quality on the bubble hash. This is this was before rosin was even a thing but it was always the first stuff we washed and it was the main stuff we wanted for bubble hash because it just quantity and quality was always top notch on it. I'll see you should have never told me that because now I'm going to put more out on the hill next to it. As long as you got the climate for them to finish they really do like that post Halloween finish. As long as you got that climate I say go for it. Sometimes we do sometimes we don't you know it just it all depends. This year was a good year though it rained a little bit but nothing major. So it wasn't too bad because we don't have a greenhouse everything's just out there. So it's got to stand up to what mother nature brings to it. Cool. Other than the sour D what else in the garden did you grow last year that really stood out to you? The Barbara Bud by House of the Great Gardener. I've been searching for Peach Church now for like five years. And it's the first one that had Peach Terps. Several different phenos had it in it but there was one that she had it from start to finish. And then I just made flour rosin with her and it tastes like peaches. Like artificial or like candy? No like a peach cup you know like the little peach cup she used to get as a kid. And it's like sweet peach smelling. Wow. It smells like that. Huh. That's interesting I've never encountered that before. It's the first time I've ever smelled peach in a string. Like and then I only had one phenol I kept because she smelled all the way through the other ones kind of change. But I saved the two that changed and I did fresh frozen with them.  Wow. And they weren't even the phenol I kept. So yeah she's got those Terps in there and she was another one. She did great in the rain no mold. Now I had I only had five feminized seeds that I had put out and every one was a different phenol. And one of those phenols didn't grow past two feet tall was a mad bush. Like she reminded me of how Bubba used to grow or like the banana cush or Ella confidential just not tall totally all leave horrible to prune. And that phenol I would never keep. And then there was another one that was a sativa phenol that got you know nine feet tall had open buds that one I washed along with another one that was similar to that one. But my keeper phenol had the nice thick dense buds had good coverage sandy trichomes and that peach smell. So I'm going to do her again next year because I was so impressed. And then I have to say my one other stand out on the hill that I wasn't too happy with the turf profiles because I got a lot of Mandarin cookie cleaning ones was the peach crescendo because she's got some frost.  Yeah. Yeah. And then a couple of times I've smoked her in the last few days and I've caught a little hint of peach like fresh peach. But then it kind of changes almost into like a banana and then it kind of changes from there. So there's some potential in that one. But those were probably the ones I was the most happiest with. Yeah.  My mind always goes who I wonder how this would wash. You know I'm always always thinking about the concentrates on that strain. Something else I wanted to talk about before I before I go on a couple other strains that I grew last year. The papaya little hill that you grew. Did you see any pink pistols when you grew it outdoors. No I didn't. I don't know if the original I did that or not. But this cross none of that. I know a lot of the modern people are talking about the pink pistols in it. Oh wow. No I didn't I didn't see anything remotely close. Most of the pink pistols stuff is either camera or G lineage. Yeah. Or there is some other stuff. My buddy down in Hopland used to have some guava kush that he made. I've had some blood blood from Hawaii in it. And there were phenotypes that would push out those hot pink pistols. But that's interesting. Yeah. That's the best about it as far as I've seen from that. Okay. Yeah. Both the Kim 91 and the sweet 16 Kim 91s pushed pink pistols this year. They stayed pretty true to that. Yeah. Oh there was a sweet 16 Kim 91 cross. Or Kim D not 91 sorry. Yeah. It was sweet 16 to Kim D not Kim 91. That sounds interesting. Very chemically very salty but also still like still mostly overpowered by that. It's a very strong fermenting wine fermenting fruit smell. Something else I wanted to talk about was the Appalachia crosses from high and lonesome. I got to try a plethora of them between my garden and my two my best friend and my brother's garden. I popped a bunch of Appalachia stuff kept a kept three or four for myself and them three or four each to grow out. And what I was really blown away with was the Appalachia old Betsy. I mean it was like a dead ringer for old piney Afghanistan just cushy old genetics you know bright green dense buds with with fire red orange hairs. It was it was it was like being transported back to the early 2000s when I was you know first first messing around with buying weed and and before I started growing in like 2007 2008 and before that I was picking up stuff that reminded me of that like it was it was really impressed with what the Appalachia did outdoors across all the hybrids really big really vigorous really healthy plants and that funky orange. There's this mango funk that accommodates all of them. And it was it was most it shown through mostly in the shore in the shoreline Appalachia. The shoreline Appalachia started off smelling like just orange and vanilla or like those candied orange slices and then after harvest and after it spent some time in the jar.  And then another one that I was really impressed by in the Appalachia July was the Appalachia to the Lumpas headband. It was some of the best lemon Terps that I've had in recent memories with the strongest lemon Terps like lemon party still holds the crown for me for lemon Terps but it was just a really good blend of cushy full assault instant onset heavy medication with a with a nice like lemon drop flavor in it. I was really impressed with the Appalachia Lumpas headband. My brother got a chance to grow that one and I didn't and I liked it so I'm absolutely going to try it. Probably going to try two or three plants of it next year. It was it was it was really impressive to me. And then what else did I grow last year that I really like. Yeah, the the ATW hybrids the arcade of train wreck hybrids from pack some of the most unique takes I've ever smelled on terpenal. Like I got to grow a cat five and a mojo horizon. My brother grew a cat five and a mojo horizon and then my best friend grew a mojo five and a cat. What are the costs? Those are dosy dose. The category five is dosy dose hurricane to our arcade of train wreck and then the mojo horizon is blue garlic to arcade of train wreck. And the category fives were like mixed berry on top of terpenal. Kind of like a mixed berry crunch and still dominated by the by the tealine, but hints of berry mixed in there. And then the mojo horizons were super unique. Definitely terpenal, but more of a menthol. I called it blueberry menthol when I would rub the stock or the stems. I'd get like a blueberry menthol terpenaline. But there's also this background layer of mushroom compost. I smelled it in the blue garlics at the party when I first smelled it. I was like, whoa, it's like composting mushroom. And then as I grew the mojo horizons, that blue garlic mushroom funk came through and it was it was very prevalent across the all three plants in three different gardens. Do we know what's in the blue garlic? I believe the blue garlic is not sure off the top of my head. Honestly, I think it's GMO to the blue cookies, but I could be wrong. I think it's yeah, I think it's blue cookies to GMO. Look it up really quick. We can come back to it as well. Yeah, look it up when we get chatting about something else. Yeah, so the stuff from Pac from Goat Farm, I really liked those ATW hybrids. It made me want to do the Blue Dream ATW knowing what's there. I'm running those now. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I'm already seeing they're not far. They're probably about 20 days in. But the balance of two pinnaleen and blueberry is quite already quite apparent. I mean, obviously it's going to change over the flowering period, but already I can kind of see like the different balances that each individuals, you know, showing me, which is really cool. I've never I'll be honest this whole time, you know, I know that the Syndicate crew generally have big fans of two pinnaleen, but this is maybe the first time I've actually confirmed for myself what two pinnaleen actually is. Because it's so obvious, you know, with these that I'm like, OK, I know what I know what that is. I know what that is now. Cool. Right, right. I bet those have a potential to be huge yielders. Yes, train rec crosses do do great. It just train rec is good in itself, but it needs a boost from something else. Usually a squad indica, but a blue dream is also a commercial yielder. Yeah, dude, you have potential for for having really, really good weight on those. The vigor on these was alarming to me as someone who grows in like these basically micro spaces. This has been probably the most challenging line. Yeah, blue dream is a is a real narrow leaf and it's going to stretch and and train rec is like this weird mix of, you know, equatorial genetics and indica genetics where it also has a stretch, but it has like a very odd leaf shape. So it might look like an indica or or pretend to be one for a while and then it hits its stride and and start stretching. And I can tell you that. Oh, sorry, you go. You finish. Oh, I was just going to say the the stems on train wreck will stretch a lot and they won't break there. They're very rubbery. Yeah. Okay. And it will bend all the way over back onto the ground and not break. I'll say that I can definitely at least, you know, anecdotally corroborate what you're saying. Like the train wreck leaners are giving me trouble because they want to splay out. And you know, they just want to flop over and take over like all the horizontal space. And then the blue dream leaners just want to go straight up. Yep. They have to do like very different constraints for both of them. That's exactly what I would expect. Yeah. Yeah, there's late season train wreck plants and tying them up and they're just all floppy all over the place no matter what the weight, the weight on those thin branches is insane for train wreck. All right. That's where I think it gets its name from is because it looks like a train wreck. If you don't support it properly, it's just this whole maze of branches just flopped over laying on the ground. I think that's where it gets its name, honestly. And I mean, I've seen it in my own garden of plants just completely falling over and pulling bamboo stakes out of the ground falling like towards the south where the weight is. And I just take those bamboo stakes, pull them back and the whole plant just pops right back up and not a single broken branch. It's just what it does. Right. I wanted to ask a little hill about his Phoenix stuff and how he thought it went. Oh, I know that's like a T1000 adjacent, but you know. Right. So Phoenix is a T1000 to back to triangle. So it's a triangle back cross. I selected this, you know, four years ago, I think, or five, five seasons ago, 2019. And I've kind of had it on the back burner just growing it a little bit here and there, but I really rolled out with it this year. And I knew the quality was there. I knew I liked the smoke. I knew it was going to do okay. But I actually added bonus. It yielded really, really well in the outdoor beds. So that was cool. And I'm definitely going to roll out with it again next year and grow more of it. I passed it to a few other people, including CSI's brother in Trinity.  So I've been, I've been absolutely happy, so happy with it as far as just like the quality of the smoke and the flavor I wanted to get as well as the potency. And then on the test results, I've gotten back have both been, I think I've gotten three test results back and they've all been through the roof. High terpene levels over one of them was over 3% terpenes, which is really good. And then just the added bonus was the yield. I didn't expect it to do quite as well as it did, but but it did. And so that's, you know, I'm a commercial cultivator, but like I selected this based off of vigor not yield. It had all the properties I wanted as far as flavor and structure. And then if you vigor was a big part of that, if you grow it big enough population, I grew 111 females out to pick this one. And it was unique out of all of them. Sheesh. If you, you can really see a difference in vigor, vigor from seed. I mean, all seed has its vigor for the, you know, for the most part, but there's these sports that stand out that just you can't hold them back from growing. And this was in that group of maybe the top 10% vigorous plants, which was just also enough again and added bonus to I'm selecting for quality of flower for the most part. And just to have it be in that top 10%. I think that's really what makes a commercially viable cut. It's in that same category where it just, you can't hold it back from growing. It's going to grow. And that's, that's, that's part of what makes it such a good commercial cut. So just to have that added bonus, like it's going to be a quarter of my outdoor garden next year. And I'll probably grow it in some greenhouses as well. Phoenix is an awesome name for a back cross strain like that.  We were calling it back to the triangle for a while and I really like that name. But I don't know, I just, I just felt like Phoenix was, was what we should do. The whole, the cross should be called back to the triangle. I don't think, I don't think Caleb ever named the back cross, but it's a good, it's just a good, it's a good name. I got a giggle out of it. Yeah, like back to the triangle to that one's got to get used. Yeah. All right, everyone. That's the end of the episode. Again, I'd like to thank the giants, little hill and peaches for showing up and hanging out and 1000 for running it. Don't forget we have the new sub Rob drop coming out with some skunk dog as one crossed a sour dub, as well as the 98 super silver haze cut that people call the cup winning shawnti cut, which we don't really know but we know it's a great cut of super silver haze crossed a sour dub fans. That's going to be on the right side. We're going to be doing another drop of blue dream soon with goat farm brand new releases we haven't done yet with it or shown. They've been done we just haven't shown them, and they've been run. Also keep your ears and eyes peeled for the TGA work, because as odd as it is to hear me announcing new TGA stuff. It's happening. Space dude met a lot of other things that he probably should have met back in the day. And in my opinion, and other people's opinions. So I'm really stoked about that. It's it's conflicting, because it's TGA, you know, but we love Miss Jill. I've always loved Miss Jill. And then I'm really stoked about it. I believe self had a legacy with some cool stuff. He made his name doing cool stuff.  With that said, we have seeds at Gert by seeds in Australia we have right to Europe we have lifted seeds in the US we can also take card directly and soon maybe, maybe, maybe South America and Brazil. So if it does, I'll definitely keep you guys posted in the future. 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Hi everyone, Joe for Jasper's casebreaks.com coming at you with 2019-2020 Panini Contenders Optic Basketball, two box picker team number 50. Very big thank you to all of these folks for getting into the action right here on a Wednesday night, appreciate it. Hopefully everyone has a good, had a good Christmas and hopefully they'll have a safe new year eve. We're off tomorrow on the 31st and the first will back on Saturday. All right, remember I marked those with Xs so we know they're all from the same case. We've got Lakers Spurs on in the background, Lakers up by 10, 108, 98 on the San Antonio Spurs in San Antonio, first of two. Basketball I guess is doing a lot of the single, same city back-to-backs I think to save on travel. Our friend Thomas here, my colleague has LeBron James over 23 and a half points. He needs one more bucket. Pass it to LeBron! On the block! Oh no, Anthony Davis with the shot. All right, we'll go one, two, three, four on the dice roll. If I roll a five or a six, we'll roll again. Four, the bottom two, one, two, three, four. We'll save these for next time. All right, good luck and bit of break credit being given away at the end if you follow the directions in the item description. All right, there's Bradley Beale, Wizards, Summon, Damien Lillard, Portland, that'll be for Peter. Redemption on the bottom, Jamal Murray and Drew Holiday. Any guesses on that redemption? Drew Holiday for Nolans, that'll be for Eric K. The Jamal Murray for Silver for the Nuggets goes to Gary. And we'll save that redemption back there. There's Bradley Beale for the Wizards. There it is! Yep, nice clean layup right there, that's 24 points. Thomas gets his over 23 and a half. All right, there's Historic Slams. Demarda Rosen, Raptors Edition. Knight with the Raptors. Here's Joelle N. Bede for the Sixers, also for Knight. We got Dylan Brooks for Summon and the Gris. No one wants to guess the redemption for bragging rights. There's Victor Oladipo. Pacers, the autograph down here is Keldon Johnson. Rookie ticket autograph, San Antonio Spurs. Joseph Johns with that one. And there's Montrez-Harel, I'm glad he's on the Lakers. It's KZ Okpala, 109. Card 109, rookie variation ticket, season ticket, red. And that's gonna go to Miami. Redemption marking pen, hiding behind the remote. All right, there you go, Miami, that'll be for Peter. You get a free top loader out of that too. I was gonna be Jamal Ramp for a second. I saw the short first name. All right, let's flip back to the list right here and let's see who's gonna win that break credit. Let's sort by column A. If you bought at least two teams, you get an entry. Four teams, two entries. Bill got two teams, Eric got two teams. That's an entry each. Gary, an entry. See you, Thomas, happy new year. Matthew Shearer, Nick, Knight has four, that's two entries. Patrick got two, Peter got two, Raymond got two, Robert got two, and Sumin got six, that's three entries. Basically, all you gotta do is buy an even number of teams. Half of that becomes entries. It's 15 spots. So once again, it's gonna be five. The top five out of the 15 are gonna get 60 bucks each to jaspyscasebreaks.com. After lucky seven times, six and a one. Top five after seven, one, two, three, four, five, six, and seventh and final time. Good luck, congrats to Raymond, Nick, Sumin, Robert, Knight. There you go. Congrats to the five of you, $60 of break credit going your way. Check your emails, jaspyscasebreaks.com. I'm Joe, I'll see you next time for another one. Bye-bye.


So I wanted to show you just a real-world application of using a conditional statement as part of something bigger And so this is an example of that. This is Say for example, I had an address and I needed to geolocate that address for whatever purpose So I need the longitude and latitude. Well, let's say for example Williams Hall if we hadn't been Online we would be either in Williams Hall or Daniel's Hall We'd be you know roughly speaking in Raleigh or on campus But the entire point is I want to know the longitude and latitude for Williams Hall Now there are some more of the like high-level advanced things that we need to deal with when we're dealing with Making calls like this for example something known as an API key For anyone who's just copying and pasting whatever they see on this video I've already deleted this because I've had someone do that before and it's expensive when they steal my password But either way, this is just some randomly generated password that Google gave me and said hey, you know if you want to access our APIs our our commands to get that kind of data You can use this and I'm just going to take that and I'm going to plug it into Google's Website and you know, they've got a nice little website for API Where I would pass it in the address and My key now I do need to do some other little fancy things like I need to convert those spaces into Plus signs because web pages don't like spaces But you know we're jumping through this this stuff is more a little too advanced is more just like to show it off But again, I go in I download the contents of that web page I'm gonna do a little sleep just to let it all download And then I'm going to do some parsing on that but specifically where I wanted to really look was this idea of conditions let's say for example, I get a when you make a Download of a web page that web browser or your web browser will give you back some kind of response code and specifically a Website giving you back correct data will give you a 200 status code. This is where that joke of like 404 comes from 404 is the status code for that web page was not found and you know, it turned into its own little mean but specifically what I'm looking at is if I didn't get a 200 in this case, I'm making a print statement. Oh something went wrong. I got a problem Then I am doing some more stuff where I'm you know, just grabbing What the status of that was?  Maybe my account is overdrawn or Even though I'm using a free tier someone has made too many queries With my account so status is effectively saying oh, well, you know, let me check all of these statuses that Google may have under its belt so in this case Over query limit. I've made too many queries or I asked for a website a Location that doesn't exist. So never will never land ranch does exist. I don't The under side the dark side of the moon, let's see if that works the dark side of the moon So just to see that as an example, I'm not going to over limit because we're dealing with Something that would charge me money But oh, well, let's check if there are zero results and just to continue jumping down if the status is okay That means I did in fact get it And so I'm just going to extract out the longitude and latitude And then I just have some base case of it doesn't exist again But as you can see I would then print it out. So now that I've had that and I gave it an address effectively Let's run this Huh, okay. Well, the dark side of the moon actually has a location who knew I don't know. Let's just give it some random text There we go. Okay, so a random place just out in the world or again Williams Hall Raleigh, North Carolina and There's the Longitude and latitude of Williams Hall Raleigh, North Carolina by using sort of these different commands But very specifically again working with the conditional statements to make sure I get I'm able to process it


Hey everybody, welcome to Lynxcast. I'm your host Matt. I'm joined by Tyler. How you doing Tyler? How was doing good? And we took a week off It's been so long. It's been like two whole weeks. How was your holiday? Did you have a good holiday? I did I had a lot of fun on July 4th, and I Got to see some friends that well, I do see them like Semi-often but I got to see see them all again, which was great. It was all around just a great holiday How about you? Cool. You know, I stayed home. I watched fireworks on television Yeah, that's what it's all about. It turns out I'm like 90 years old, but After a certain point I mean I can understand going to see fireworks if you have like children or whatever But for me personally, I would much rather watch them on TV where I'm not out in the mosquitoes I don't have to breathe in the smoke and There's a lazy boy in the in the living room. I can sit there I don't have to I don't have to sit on the hood and I worry about if I'm denting the hood or if I You know, I don't have to worry about pulling out a lawn chair that I you know is gonna be completely uncomfortable So yeah, I watched on TV. We watched the PBS and we watched the Macy ones. It was it was good Do you not live in a subdivision?  See so we live we live in when it's a Town of about 3,000 people, but we live outside of that. So we don't have I probably just doxed myself You don't know what state it's okay, there's a tons of But anyways, all you have to lose look up one that has population of 3,000. All right I Mean if I if I gave away the name of my town, there's no way somebody couldn't find it. It'd be too easy There's only one town named what I like the town that I live in. Okay. Yeah, we don't I probably have to be about my town Just go ahead dox yourself there could be nothing bad that happens for Matt All right, all right Let me tell you a story when I first started the channel Somebody asked for my dot files. So it's like you want fine I'll upload my dot files like the whole dot config file right up to get up And I was like, oh, there's nothing could possibly go wrong.    I Yeah, anyway, so What did you do on Linux? This is gonna be the whole show.  I really don't know I'm gonna have to go look cuz I really I'm pretty sure has something to do with using windows. I Wouldn't be surprised So the main topic for today is would you use windows willingly if it was false, so that's the that's the main topic But yes, that's a good topic. It is a good topic sings how you're using windows right now So what I've been doing on this is Ridiculous I have been switching around like crazy. I made a video talking about the fact that I was talked into trying Jin to again And then I got really upset because after Jin to just I I ch rooted into my install and then my make.com files for Doing everything just gone and then I remade it and still it was like I didn't have a make.com file So I was like, okay, whatever try Debian Debian's all their download links just wouldn't function on any computer inside of my house And on my 4g phone So like it was definitely Debian site was just like the download links weren't working for some reason it was fixed Shortly after that everybody was telling me like hey, it's fixed, but Anywho then I went back to arch Started having problems on arch where like I installed the new Linux kernel and all my issues with my graphics card crashing and the audio Device like the internal audio device not being detected that got solved and then the problems just creep back up the next day So then I decided all right. Well Debian's links are working I'm gonna try Debian and just see if I can Like you use a tool on Debian and just I'll pull down the mainline kernel and just try it on Debian Maybe that'll change something Heck, I'll just try it. I didn't fix anything. And so now I am reluctantly using Windows Just just to be able to get stuff done for right now. I don't know what I'm gonna do I might I might even go crazy again and try another gen 2 install But I really have no idea what I'm gonna do with Linux for the next week No idea Well, I feel your pain We all know how my experience with gen 2 went. I have no clue what's going on with with Debian When you made that video, I tried it and we're working for me So it's possible just at that point their website was down or something who knows I For for me This last week in terms of Linux. I've also been all over the place, but I haven't distro hopped so I should be happy I actually went through and rewrist DWM. So I've now on a purple black and white theme and where I was I'm not completely done with I'm gonna finish it Sunday night on the stream, but Yeah, it looks nice. I I think I Think given what you were talking about with your your problems with discord that the problems that I was having with Discord yesterday are a discord problem and not a distribution problem Which I'm so thankful for because that means I don't have to go hop to another distro So that just means that discord has is having some problems and like I said, that's good I mean not good the discourse. It just means that I Don't have to worry about my computer exploding, which is good So Like I said, I've raced DWM. I've also been working on making them better for writing I haven't made a lot of progress on that yet I've been mostly doing some research in terms of findings and plugins that will do good because I want to so For living I write historical papers and stuff like that So I want to move away from you having to use Google Docs and using Libre office to being able to use them And I know a lot of people have pointed me towards like law techs and all that kind of stuff But I don't really care about the formatting stuff I actually want to be able to brighten them and make it look easy But them has always had like the weirdest ass text wrapping ever So I'm trying to figure out how I can go through and fix that so that because it's not Great like I don't want when you get to an end of a line.  It could be like nano and nano nano doesn't Have wrapping at all it just continues on forever and ever and ever ever like I mean you can turn wrapping on a nano But why would you I mean just use them So yeah, those are the two things I've been having I've been doing I've also been Floating in and out of the other window manager because like I talked about last time when I installed this version of Arco I went through and installed like all the window managers like I have all of them installed and I just been flopping it like I wanted to X-mone it again. I got my rice set up back in there I immediately left X-mone head because I realized how terrible X-mone it is I've got into Q tile and Herb sloth and I was trying out Spectre WM for the first time. That's really good and Another thing I've noticed Here's a free piece of advice for everybody if you're not going to use KD plasma Don't install KD plasma.   It's with one page on Rofi. It's it's the dumbest thing Ever so what I'm what I am hearing is that KDE is not bloated whatsoever No, no, no, no, so ever like And that's just I mean I understand this probably The Arco because I installed it from the Arco and install that right so our Arco Linux probably just has all the stuff installed for people who want to use You know plasma and that's perfectly fine. Thanks. Like I said plasma is a great That's not my favorite But don't install it unless you're gonna use it because I have no intentions of actually using I just installed it because you know Every once in a while, I'll think about you know, let's go have some fun in plasma But that's not a great use case for plasma when it also installs a thousand packages on your system Yeah, that was gonna be my next question is do you even know how many packages are on your system almost three thousand Holy, yeah, I think I think that's what it was. Oh No, excuse me. It's just over two thousand twenty one nineteen Still yeah, it's still it's a lot. No, no, you got to remember I Sorry, I listed these out last week, but I have a awesome Herbstluff Specter Q-Tile BSPWM DWM XFC plasma X-Monad Open box. I'm pretty sure there's one or two others. Those are all the ones I have installed So for if you take that into account two thousand isn't all that bad Yeah, especially considering that includes all of the actual programs and dependencies that you need for everything to use on Yeah, yeah, and so I don't know it's not If I were to go through it and Reinstall I would definitely I'd install the window managers again because I like going back, you know switching between those But I would not install plasma just because it's not one that I'm ever going to use all that much So that was that was a mistake, but other than that. I don't know. It's a It's one of the things like it's not as if it hurts anything It's just that when I try to search for something that like in Rofi that starts with a K that's not a plasma thing like and then I had to go through all these k abs so dumb like first of all plasma I understand the whole K thing was like a It was a thing back in the you know, 2000s when you first started out or to the 1990s when you first start out It's old. Okay. We need some new names It's dumb, okay, so What are we we're 16 minutes in? Getting that believe it or not last week. It was like what 30 minutes in before we got to the contact information So we're doing good we're doing good All right, if you want to get in contact with us you can do so at the Linux cast on Twitter You can subscribe to me you can subscribe to me you can subscribe to all the audio stuff at the linuxcast.org I I continued to promise that eventually that will be a website. It still is not At this point Just assume that that's an empty broken promise. It'll eventually happen, but it's not going to happen anytime soon Uh, you can contact us via email at email at the linuxcast.org.  Isn't that enough? It's so dumb. Anyways, you can support me on patreon at patreon.com slash linuxcast. You can subscribe to Tyler's channel. He's official zany on odyssey and zany on youtube the links will be in the video description below You can subscribe to the linuxcast on youtube at youtube.com slash linuxcast. We just went over 3,300 subscribers, which is It's awesome. I ever thought I'd ask I guess it's The last three days have actually been the best I've had on the channel. They were organic not dt related Um, so those are I was really impressed because I did the the the audacity video did really well And the the windows 11 video did really well So, um, I'm I'm really happy. That's awesome.  I mean I mean, thank you for watching. We really do appreciate it. Um I mean you make good videos dude. I gotta be honest. You do you do I'm glad everybody else thinks though because I think that they're all crap now now that um one that I did, um Yesterday on support linux supporting the noobs I really liked that because I didn't have to edit that hardly at all because I don't think I said the word um a single time That's something I have to I'm trying to work on and get good at I I'm not even focusing on it like even if I make it like a mental note throughout like throughout trying to record Don't do that. I it it's hard. I took I took a class actually when I started the channel because I wanted to because I have a lot of filler I have filler at words that I use all the time So um is one of them, you know is when I'm like, what am I a 14 year old girl like, you know, you know, like, you know I swear to god, I use you know all the time. It's so dumb There's a few other ones that I just They're filler words, right? So the way they teach you to do it is to learn to replace those filler words Because basically those words are for you because you're trying to think of what to say next, right? So what they try to train you to do is just to stop talking Like when you when you don't know what to say something you just Silence and it's much easier to edit out silence that it is to Unfortunately in the podcast here, I don't edit out any of the ohms In fact, I don't edit the podcast at all.  I think it I think it makes it more natural Yeah, it's just like that. It's a discussion, you know, it's not I could I could go through and and do it But then, you know, it's it'd be weird. Anyways, those are the contact information. So every week We choose news links of the week things, whatever We choose one Tyler. What was your news link of the week? For for me, it was a nine to five Linux article about next cloud hub 22 coming out Which it's coming out with a whole bunch of like improvements and new features for like teams Just just making it even and even more fully featured and fully functional System for large teams, which I think is great. But in reading the article Quite a ways down there is they talk about Among the other noteworthy changes one of them is integrated zip file compression Inside of the the next cloud, you know file manager, which I think that that one is I was looking at that. I'm like, that's really like for me. That will actually be handy to have I do use next cloud and so Being able to just manage my zip files not not even having to Extract them or decompress them when I get them down to my machine is That's pretty nice or just compress them in the in the cloud just because that's it's pretty neat Um, next cloud is one of those things that I look at and think you want matt. You should definitely use that Um, but but like the linux cast website. That's probably never gonna happen either Like I had I went and got I signed up for the note and have like the hundred dollar credit you get for like two months or whatever um I've done nothing with it. Like I was gonna use it for the website. I was gonna try next cloud Um, I've just been astonishingly lazy since the like three three or four weeks ago when I started having linux problems You know, I haven't been interested in doing anything new It was very hard for me this week to find an app of the week because I haven't tried anything new other than I'm like I've done I had five new apps for the the monthly Top five apps thing that I do every month. I have those and I want to use one of those But other than that, I haven't tried anything new. So this next call thing is definitely gonna be something That I want to look in because every time somebody talks about next call is like You know, they have an office suite. They do email. They have chat. They have all this, you know file Stuff like It sounds really cool. It sounds like something I should definitely try out, but I never, you know, actually do Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things where it is good, but I mean I'm glad you said it like when you're having troubles Um, the last thing that you're gonna do is try something new or just fiddle around with something You just want to get stuff to work. Like that's really all it is This thing is I was going to it was like one problem right after another and I'm at the point where I think I got things running right now. So I'm bay being my computer, right?   So I mean, I can't really say how is that I All right. Um, yeah, so this looks really really interesting. I'm definitely gonna have to check that because it next color just seems to Keep getting better. All right. So my App of the week and I don't know if you had a chance to take a look at this video, but um, so For those of you guys don't know Ubuntu 21 20 Was it 12? It was 2010 No, it was 21.04. Okay. So 21.04 came out around the same time. Good. I'm 40 did and For that reason Ubuntu didn't go through and actually implement anything from good on 40 other than like a few applications and We were all kind of waiting trying to figure out Exactly how Ubuntu was going to implement any of the stuff that good on 40 did because good on 40 It has a significant change in terms of UI Then previous versions, you know, and it turns out ubuntu's not gonna do anything Like this video The link will be for all this stuff in the video description But if you want to see omg ubuntu has a video of gunon 40 Running in ubuntu 21.10, which comes out this fall and basically what it is is ubuntu with uh the uh multitasking of gunon 40, that's It see when I was talking about 21.10 in a video I made earlier A couple months ago now I said something like too long all along the lines of I really hope ubuntu takes this opportunity for a visual refresh something that looks different uh because ubuntu has looked the same since Unity was released that looks exactly the same and they put some new quotes paying on it But it's the same format and layout they've they've had for at least 15 years 10 years Whatever a long time So I was really hoping that they'd now I understand every time I say something like I really hope a major distribution would make a major change somebody in the comments gonna be like You just want change for change sake like That's true. Yes. I I like change I like it when people put effort into stuff and like I'm not saying that ubuntu doesn't put effort into ubuntu I'm sure they do and and new ubuntu is great. It's gotten better the they've they've made no musible, you know But I would just like to see them do something Yeah, and I I think you're 100 right and I don't think it's accurate to say you want change for change of sake It's okay to want change after like seven years It it's okay like you know, it's good to have something be the same for a period of time But there there comes a point especially when it comes to ui and exact like how stuff looks It's not good to just Ignore an update because it it's okay like that that's the whole reason like that people are complaining So much around audacity and it's buyout. It's Even more than all the other stuff that's going on with it. It's a Everyone just wants a ui update. Why? Why are we getting other changes than what everyone has agreed? Audacity need like there's so many different ui programs and just things Not necessarily false community, but in general that just get ignored when it comes to their ui They improve it functionality wise, but ui stays the same well, it's like I mean, you can really name the ones that are have been stayed the same for the longest time so like Yeah, you named audacity. I'll be ubuntu. Libre offices. They isn't the exact same time I mean I made it like I made a video about that like two or three weeks ago and in the comments that I was like Why do you want this to change?  I just want them to show interest in the project You know the way At least we're livery office. It makes it seem that they are resting on their laurels It makes it seem like they're so interested in maintaining the status quo That it still looks and feels and works the same as it did 15 years ago and stability and you know just being able to work and do what it needs to do is perfectly fine But At a certain point it makes you Makes people feel like the developers aren't actually interested in you know In the project at all now I don't think that that's the case with ubuntu ubuntu has made a lot of other changes over the years You know in the last few years that show that they're perfectly interested in ubuntu I don't even think that we need in terms of A ui refresh a complete revamp just Some new features that would make it stand out just a little bit more from where it was, you know A few years ago like uh the ability to I revamp the setting so like Uh Papa west has gone through and and put in A lot of the gunam tweak stuff Into their settings app like they've taken a lot of the gunam tweak stuff that you'd have to use In gunam tweaks and put it in their settings app that mostly theming and stuff like that. It's Great, right? It's exactly what it should be Uh, yep, why don't I mean ubuntu has worked on that a little bit like they've Added the ability to change the dark and light theme in the theme go through and revamp the themes or the setting Uh application so that you can do more in terms of customization Move it's obvious. It's obvious that they're not going to follow gunam In terms of actually a full ui refresh and and actually going through and just stealing out pieces of gunam 40 Makes you look lazy, you know exactly.   You know what I mean? Yeah, it was unique. Yeah, it was yeah, exactly. It was unique. Uh, this just feels like they're uh, Slowly, I mean they chose gunam and then they've tried desperately to just maintain what unity looked like and But there's like integrating some gunam features. It's very it's a very weird fractured, you know way Even though I know this is not true But the perception is that they're lazy like and I know that's not true But it is it seems like laziness because they like well, we take a foundation and like Especially from the picture that I'm seeing here It just seems like all they do is remove the new bits to maintain the old look Or at least a similar old look, you know, they I mean, yeah, it does look different, but it's Like it's only because it's gunam 40. Yeah, I haven't used ubuntu 21 to 10 yet I guess they have the daily downloads or whatever. I haven't I haven't tried I'm gonna wait till the beta to do anything like a video or anything But it just feels from the video that I watched and I showed this on stream just a minute ago um It just looks like they've tacked it on right it feel Multi-tasking and the window and workspace and stuff feels tacked on and honestly that just it just doesn't feel Great and like I said, I haven't used it yet. So I'm very much judging this based on a youtube video And you know, but so I will wait for a final judgment until I actually try it But like I said from that video the multitasking stuff feels tacked on and that just makes me feel Not so good about ubuntu just because If you really didn't want that kind of stuff to the point where you just you know, you guys wanted this here have it You know do your own thing, you know maintain the The way the task switcher was before or come up with something different do something I don't know We bitched about gnom for an hour and a half last time. So we really don't need to continue to to bitch about gnom Uh, that doesn't serve You know, that doesn't need to be the thing that we do that we become known for but um still I know like Ubuntu is good. It's it's it's a good distribution And you know, if anybody came up to me and say, hey, what next distribution should I use? There's a 50 50 chance. I'd say, you know ubuntu or papa west, you know, I was like Those are the two that I'd point to And which one do you choose really depends on Whether what your stance is on corporate, you know backing and uh, even then they're and then also mainly like Do you play games because if you play games just install pop? It'll just be easier to just install steam and you know, everything's going to just be set up And better optimized for gaming. So yeah, like I mean yeah Ubuntu and gnom is one of those things where like You can complain but I understand why canonical is not going to jump on the idea of making their own desktop environment again They didn't get a lot of community support or anything when they were doing it. So well That the but all right, I'm going to say this with a lot of love because I don't want to bash the people who use ubuntu but The ubuntu community is very It's not just the buntu community every every linux community and we were all insular in terms of what distro we use We all have the things that we like and we want them to stay the same The buntu community loves the way ubuntu looks they like the color scheme. They like the way that it's laid out And do you want to know it? I'm not an ubuntu user So it's perfectly fine for me to sit here in my chair and say you want that looks ugly.  That's your opinion There's a reason why I don't use ubuntu and that's what good is great about linux So if you're an ubuntu user and you like the way ubuntu looks You probably don't think that they need to change at all and you probably think that they're The way they're implementing gum 40 is perfectly fine. You're kind of looking forward to it It's kind of exciting for me. I look at that and see Um, I'm still not going to use ubuntu.  So Um, I'm going to continue to use art space distributions probably for a long time Although when I thought discord was freezing and I was having computer problems. I was like, you want it? I'm going to sell debian You started thinking I'll leave it Like every time there's just this little bitty problem that I don't think I'm going to be able to solve I think about distro hopping And I know that's not like that's not the way to use linux Like you really should go through and try to troubleshoot and fix things but Sometimes you just like I don't want to do that.  It's never a good idea. Yeah. Yeah Well, and then you just end up using windows Yeah, all right speaking of windows Many topics. Yeah, the main topic for this week is would you use windows as your daily driver? Not being forced to like tyler is but would you choose to use windows if it was open source? Uh, I'm seeing so this was your topic tyler. I'm going to let you go first. What's your answer to this question? um no not and not because I like not because of some philosophical reason, but I just don't trust microsoft Like even if it went fos like I don't trust microsoft at all And it would it would literally take at least four to five people who are like Okay, i'm a data scientist. I got my like I know what i'm doing and I go through code and I've I've all of us have together spend You know the past month going through and it's okay at that point I might try it I probably wouldn't stick on it because I don't trust them to even in that scenario where It's guaranteed had a team of people go over it and there's nothing malicious going on I I don't trust it to stay that way What about you would you use it? Okay, so I think that this is one of the ones where it depends So I'm very much like you I don't trust microsoft and if microsoft saved open source windows But maintain control over it then no because We know what that we know what that looks like it's called chromium Like google owns chromium. It may be open source, but google makes all the decisions in chromium I mean microsoft's a part of the board and they contribute to the project or whatever, but Don't be fooled chromium is a google project. Okay. Uh, it's the same thing with like flutter flutter is open source It's a programming language, right It's and it's been worked on by kamamako and the boys at ubuntu Boys and girls at ubuntu You know, it's uh, you know So but it's still it's a google project. It was started at google They have the vast majority control over that and chromium and every open source that they have same thing android that may be an open source project, but it is A google project so If google stopped developing those projects, I don't think we would see any I mean, yes, there would still be some development on it, but nowhere near the level that it's at now Right. Um, by the way, we said google and my phone decided to say hey, how you doing? By the way, i'm listening Yeah, by the way, i'm listening to everything about but we're open source. It's gonna be good. It's great. You love it, right? It's so it uh, so so my answer is is it depends because if microsoft didn't have Um control over the product which that I mean they would Then maybe I try it out in a virtual machine where they couldn't have access to any of my data, you know I think the So really I guess my answer is no because there's no way they're going to not only open source it but also give Up complete control over it and actually have a community developed at this point windows is what it is It's always going to be microsoft developed Now if they say they started over and said you want to know what we're going to do is work on making wine great You know make it so that every single windows application can run perfectly on linux like as if it was a native application And then what we're going to do is we're going to create our own linux distribution called Windows, you know, I mean it's based on linux kernel. It's just a windows distro with a windows desktop environment on top of it and And then wine running around for any, you know dot exe files that you want to run around That'd be very interesting if windows became linux like actual Linux would just like a like a windows desktop environment on top of it That'd be very interesting even if it was controlled by microsoft And i'm not necessarily saying you know i'm also all of a sudden going to trust microsoft, of course I'm not going to trust microsoft. I don't trust canonical, you know same same, you know I don't trust fret hat open suza. They're they're corporations. They're meant to be making money.  All it all ties back to making cash, which is you know, the way it's supposed to work for whatever Uh, so i'm not going to all of a sudden start saying you know, I trust microsoft But if they went through an document the future of windows is a linux distribution That has a perfected wine emulation layer on top of it so you can run your windows applications that'd be Really really enticing and I also think that that'd be really interesting for the rest of the linux ecosystem because Uh, the way linux works is that if you don't want to use windows distribution You or you know microsoft's distribution you could use that emulation layer on you know archer Popper whatever you wanted to do that would also I I think if it became a linux distro that would completely change the way that we Um had to deal with stuff that didn't work You know on linux and then worked on windows because the only reason that they probably don't work on linux is because the stuff To make it work is only made for windows And if it's if windows become or was to become a linux distro Essentially all the drivers everything even if it's proprietary whatever would still be packaged for linux Yeah, I mean it's a nice thing to think about because if microsoft did that then you know like a adobe would go through and you know and say you want Maybe we can start uh developing for For linux because it's you know it'd be better for these applications to be a native thing We don't really want to run in wine. So whatever. I mean they're already working on arm based stuff I mean it's possible that they could do that but um, I think we should make this very clear This is never gonna happen. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.  That's where they make their money on support and services and selling them licenses And stuff that that's where they make their money And that's the reason why this would never happen, right? There's no way Those corporations would never in a million years go through and change their systems to a completely new operating systems And we know that because Microsoft has tried Over and over again to try to get rid of some of their legacy code by coming out with like s mode and You know windows rt and all this kind I mean they tried over and over again to just try to push people into the future and when I say people I mean companies, you know Companies are the reason why windows xp still has like 10 of the market Yeah, you know windows 7 is like at 40 percent of the market or something like that It's it's done companies don't want to move off from this stuff and uh There's no so there's no chance of them saying Oh look the microsoft has this brand new thing. It's based on linux. Of course. We're going to use it Wait, isn't linux that thing we use on the servers that nobody likes knows how to use just the people we pay You know tens of thousands of dollars each year to actually manage Yeah, I'm not I'm not doing that And in corporations, I mean the way they think about it is is it's not even that it's just new It's how much training are we going to have to do? So Like I I don't know and also some I think there's a lot of people out there who don't really give it enough thought that like even if Windows became false There is absolutely no way that the bad things For for us in windows most people don't care, but the telemetry and all that stuff There's no way it's going to go away. It has to be there that that would be their only way of Financially having any revenue coming from users. See the thing is though I just thought about this if windows became open source software and was licensed under like the gpl Or one of the open source things somebody could fork it And say you want this is windows minus the shit You know now Good point. I mean Like I said, there's another interesting thing. Like if it was open source Somebody could fork it and somebody would fork it, you know, I mean like It would happen so In that scenario It could be possible that we had two different, you know pass for windows one be the microsoft way One would be the open source true open source way where somebody else was in control of that code Um, it'd be very interesting to see how that kind of thing would play out um But I think that's why it'll never happen too is microsoft knows that they know Like they're never gonna give up that control. I mean that's that that's I mean we talked about it. It's all about the money, right? There's no way They're gonna give up a multi billion dollar part of their business I mean, it's not windows isn't as big as it used to be like in terms of making them the money But it's still a multi billion dollar a year business like between licenses and support and all that stuff they're If they went open source with it, they'd be giving that up or risking giving that up and it's just Not going to happen because I mean It's not gonna happen now. I mean it's possible In 1991 or 1992 or whatever whenever bill gates was in his basement coming up with Ways of stealing DOS um You know and making it whatever it is. He made it It's possible for at that point He was an open source guy and said you want I'm gonna open source this to compete with linux and unix or whatever At that point it could have been possible because it would have had to have been at the beginning It's really hard for a project that's been open sourced and it's been or it's been proprietary. I mean for 30 years to go through And become open source especially when that project or that product has been so successful In terms of actually making money and continues to be successful now If in a year or whatever When windows 10 flops because we know it's going to flop because that's just the way microsoft works and it's tick-tock, right? um If like a year from now or whatever nobody uses windows anymore Maybe maybe microsoft open sources it because nobody uses it anymore. I mean it's like it's like those games It's like it's like those games you see That goes like those 90 games or 90s games that were like really really popular and then like 30 years later the developer decides to open source them the reason why is because nobody plays them anymore They don't care anymore. They're not making money on it anymore. No longer matters God that that is the sad truth like the only way that windows becomes open source is by the time that it's irrelevant Right. Nobody uses anymore. Um, yeah, so The main question was would you use windows if it was one first? I I think the answer is it doesn't matter because it's never gonna happen But if it were open source, I still think I mean your answer is no my answer is no um The more I think the more interesting thing to look at is because microsoft has definitely embraced linux more than it used to Right. I mean they got wsl now They've open sourced like the calculator app. I think who they've open sourced the calculator But I mean that's a it feels like a big deal because I've never open sourced anything really before that was part of windows um So it's really interesting to see where their interest in my in linux leads um, and Like I've used wsl and I granted it's been over a year and it was still kind of beta e at that point But like, you know, this is at that point. I was like, you know, this is kind of neat It wouldn't drive me away from actually using linux, but if you have to use Windows, but you also have to use linux wsl is a Better version. It's great.  It's not Especially when you when there's now we live in a world where I mean running a virtual machine is not like you The odds that you'd have hardware that can't run a virtual machine pretty low like Virtual machine stuff like that. Like I don't know dual booting for me. I've never liked it Especially back in the day when like windows just didn't play nice with linux Yeah, and I mean don't come wrong. There's some linux distributions that just don't play nice with dual booting either Arch does not like to be installed last Oh, really? Arch doesn't like to be installed first is what I mean is if you have a Arch is very particular on who controls grub if it doesn't control grub Then it has problems. Now, obviously that's uh, uh, that was I haven't dual booted in I don't know three or four years. So it's possible at that point. I was still very a new person It was a problem for me but every time I tried to install So I if I had arch installed first and then installed windows into another partition on the same drive I always have problems with the arch linux partition breaking Like it just went long into because once windows install after that it controls the bootloader Yep, so It was very it was it was weird. So, uh, that was the main topic anything else to say on this Oh, I think we covered it. Yeah, um, it was a good combo. Yeah, I was like That whole windows becoming a linux distribution It's gonna get your noggin thinking because it has possibilities of being really awesome. It's just too bad. That's never gonna happen Okay, so every week Tyler and I choose a uh an app or something of the kind and we call apps the week But really it just picks the week because it can really be pretty much anything I just haven't changed the title in the notion doc yet. So, uh, tyler, what is your Pick of the week this week For me it is a bundle and bundle is a vim plugin manager. I'm pretty sure I mean do I mean you use vim do you use bundle too? No, I use vim plug Okay, uh, so Well, good. So bundle is pretty popular. Um, not not everybody uses it So that's why I thought it would be good to just talk about it because I've been using just Vim, I don't you run any plugins for the longest time, but Because I'm working inside of unity and scripting a whole bunch and c-sharp. I want a like more fully featured ide to work in and bundle was just It surprised me how easy it was to get bundle working and just Put in a plug in the only thing I will say if you are new to vim plugins new to bundle Just know please take your time and read The config because a config is very straightforward and it seems So and it is so easy that it can really throw you up because you have to Actually after putting the plug in in the config file, you have to do the command plugin install and for me I Were like a solid two minutes. You missed that bit, didn't you? Yeah for a solid two minutes I was replacing the plug in trying different methods of like using the plugin to get it installed I saw the comment of just you got installed. I'm like, oh, what the heck? Yeah, it's so easy. Um, there's not a lot of differences in terms of bundle and then plug They both do the basically the same thing. Um, why I used to use bundle, but now I use them like I don't remember why I switched Um, I think they're both basically exactly the same. They work Like precisely the same I'm it's another one of those Linux Linux things like two versions of the exact same thing, right? um I'm sure I'm assuming that there's probably is some difference, but I've never Got into it. But yeah, um I mean It's like they even install the same like you do plug in install. I just do plug install Oh, okay. Yeah, exactly the same. Um, so yeah, that's been plugging bundle. They're really good I think I only have like seven plugins right now for them But that's about to change because I've been doing research. Like I said at the beginning to try to get to be a better app for writing And so there's definitely going to be some more that I look into in terms of actually adding but right now Most of the ones that I have are for um Like auto completion and stuff like that. So Yeah, and I don't do any Squaring coding at all. So Well, uh, like for me, I only I only needed two plugins. I'm sure I could optionally find some more plugins I thought was cool or like thought it were cool and play around with but for me nurturing just so I have a file browser window there perfect And then I can't remember what the plug-ins call, but I use it. It's like scripting auto complete so I can Uh, just choose like it comes with I think it comes with like three languages already But COC is it conquer of completion or something? No, I can't remember what it was called But it came with like I know, uh, I know for a fact java was one of the program that and python Would already set up to auto complete And then I just I had to do like one extra step to get C sharp in there and then I mean I was like I was just surprised how easy it was to get an ide setup or set up them as an ide Yeah, it was pretty simple. Yeah, them is great. I mean seriously don't use nano I'm still unwilling to try emacs. I don't know everyone's told me I should at least give it a shot, but I'm still like Not yet. It just does Emacs is like kde.  That's that's my opinion It takes it takes over your entire like as soon as you get into emacs From everyone that I've ever heard of you get into emacs You like emacs and then the next thing you know emacs is your window manager And I'm like I don't I don't really want to go all that in. Yeah, yeah I don't want to do my email and emacs or file browsing and all that stuff Like it's great that I can do that stuff, but I like this separate applications that I can whatever it's it's weird Um, what you like what you like. All right. Anyway, so my pick of the week this week is called offy now I've been using google authenticator on my phone now for a while But the problem with the google authenticator is that it's attached to the device Right if this phone decides to die I'm screwed And the great thing about offy is that it's done through an account So you can actually have it on multiple devices and there is an a linux application for it So you can actually install it now. It is available only through the step snap store I don't know if there's I'm assuming it's also in a u r Everything is in the a u r someone just it seems to be a safe assumption. It's also there, but I do have Yeah, so completely a lot of topic But I I do the top five linux apps of the month every week month and this one three of them were snap packages And one of them was a flat pack. I was like Uh, I don't want to install these things on my system I But I did and the thing is is arco comes with both snap and flat packs pre-support pre-install So I didn't have to do anything. I was just like snap install this snap install that and then flat hub install Whatever the hell flat hub does because flat hubs not nearly as easy in terms of syntax, but um Yeah, so that it was both installed. It worked really well So I could actually install offy from the snap store, which I probably will I haven't actually gone through and done this yet because You have to go through and transfer every application You know one by one and it's gonna be a pain in the ass, but I'm going to use this Because I'm just definitely afraid Of this android phone Stopping working right because I this is a one plus seven t I think And one plus used to be great in terms of like updates and stuff like that But just lately their updates have been garbage Like I mean everything is I mean Things going slow. It's running the the battery down.  Did you say samsung? No, no one plus. Okay. Okay. Yeah, because I'm actually having the same issue I updated my phone. I think it was yesterday and now it's slow like and I I have a samsung note note ultra 20 some 5g BS I don't know There's no reason for it to be slow. So my theory on the phone's thing is that these companies are coming out with way too many devices and they can't they're Like samsung has like 40 different devices they have to support maybe even more than that if you can't wake worldwide I'm sure that it's probably more than that, right? No company in the world no matter how big can support that many devices And put out the same an update every single month because they have to do an update every month They have a security update every month um Yeah, so That's not great. That's the reason why apple is so good because that all their stuff is the same, right? And like they just push out an update and it works for whatever devices they say it's gonna work on You know it works. Anyways.  I was talking about how change is good But when it comes to my phone, I don't want you to I mean, uh, oh don't get me wrong I like the new android 12 or whatever. It looks cool But Unless it comes as the most stable thing in the world. I don't want to use it.  I mean I had a lot of fun trying to fix those damn things But if my phone dies I'm lost You know, I guess the thing has everything my whole life I would die and cry and it's it's not even that like your your phone is one of those things where like if it goes down There's a good chance that like that's a device where if there's an emergency That's where someone's going to reach you You're mainly your computer like it might be annoying that you can't get some work done Or you had something productive that you wanted to get done that day And it some when something interferes with that like yeah, it's annoying and it's upsetting But on your phone It's a little bit like if if my phone is up is slow or if I miss a phone call from my sister where like My mom's been in a horrible car wreck Only because my phone is unstable. Oh, that's that's much different than just Me having some problems with like trying to get chin to install. It's a big difference. Yeah, so So I think the moral of the story is use iphone, right? No, that's not the moral The story is don't put all of your eggs in one basket. Don't There's definitely going to be someone who skits through the video and ends up right on that part right there Yeah, definitely Wait, isn't this a linux channel? Where where did I end up? I Like the moral of the story don't let one device be the Focus point of all of your data and that is the way it is for me Like pretty much right now because I use that google authenticator app And if this phone dies, I can't get into my bank. I can't get into facebook I can't get into all these things that I use Two factor for because they tell you you have to use the app based authenticator or whatever because it's safer than sms Um, I be screwed right and I mean so we got two morals for the story Don't upload your dot config file to github because that's dumb And also don't tell people where you live on the podcast. That's also dumb and third don't Don't put all of your eggs in one basket. It's it's a great like I don't know some kind of proverb anyways so that is it for us Um, we just went over an hour. So um, I'm sure we probably can cut out the first 10 minutes of this Um, we were we were bullshitting before we actually started. Um, so coming up next week I believe yes, we're going to be talking about telemetry. So telemetry has been in the news a lot lately With audacity and ubuntu and all these distributions. They're all collecting data And we thought that linux isn't really supposed to do that, uh, but It seems open source has come to the conclusion that it's okay to collect your data Um, we'll see we're going to be talking about that next week. That should be an interesting topic. So That is it for us now for now. 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