Okay, we're back live in Orlando, Florida for IBM's Edge 2012. I'm John Furrier, the founder of SiliconANGLE.com. This is a wrap-up segment for day one of day two, two-day coverage of Edge 2012, IBM Storage Technology Conference, the first step for IBM in their transformation and storage strategy. I'm joined with Dave Vellante, co-founder of Wikibon.org and John MacArthur, co-host this week with us. So guys, let's do the wrap. Dave, what do you think? Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely, I'd say Edge exceeded my expectations. I mean, I had reasonably high expectations for Edge, but I mean, the quality of the attendees looks good. I mean, a lot of familiar faces, but a lot of new faces, good, strong practitioner audience, very strong representation from IBM management, which I think is key, even though, again, Steve Mills is not here. I would have liked to see Steve Mills come here. Rod Atkins, big presentation this morning, thought he did a very good job.  So, you know, tactically speaking, the big whales in the storage business, this is a storage event, when you look at IBM HP Oracle, EMC, Dell, NetApp, IBM and EMC sort of stand out as doing better than the market on average near-term. Okay, now, the market's ebbing and flowing for, you know, for a number of quarters, NetApp was really kicking butt. They've run into some bumps. Dell has had some financial issues, right? But, you know, again, still strong company, Oracle. We see bumps in the road, HP, we saw last quarter, you know, kind of hurting. EMC continues to do well. And IBM, I think, what I'm looking for, so that's the near-term, right? And quarters come, quarters go, and you've got comparisons with previous years. What I'm looking for from IBM is a continued sustained momentum in the storage business, which has been lacking at the company. And that's what I think edge is really all about. It's the coming-out party for IBM's storage business, and my expectation is, and hope is, that IBM can continue that momentum, can continue to take its organic R&D, it spends more on R&D than anybody. Now, you can argue it doesn't spend as much on storage R&D, but still, spends a lot of money on R&D, combined with its cash horde and strategic acquisitions, which I, again, I'd like to see it get more aggressive in storage.  So this to me is really the coming-out party of IBM, and I'm expecting and holding IBM's feet to the fire to see that progress and see if they can actually make inroads and get back their storage mojo. I think, Dave, I'm impressed by the organizational changes around the coordination of this event. This event, I mean, was talked about by Mark Peters from ESG. Literally, this is a whole new ball game for IBM's management to kind of put the step forward as a unified team company, not just storage centric, we're trying to compete with everyone else. They really are looking at the holistic big picture of what the customers want, and I'm trying to organize that where storage is central to that equation. So, you know, I think that's a good strategy for them. It plays right to their strengths and takes the whole speeds and feeds out of the game and commoditizes everybody else. Now, they're not really hurting that bad in the speeds and feeds from what we analyzed, but they're table stakes. Their solutions are going to drive it. So I'm impressed by that. I think it's a good move. I think IBM's products, their portfolios, solid. I think the issue has been one of organizations, commitment, you get a lot of turnover at the very highest levels. You just don't have that continuity, and that's something that I'm hoping Brian Traskowski can bring. I mean, obviously, Rod Atkins, Steve Mills. This team has been together for a while, and then the people underneath it. The collaboration with Tivoli, to me, is one of the most impressive things I've seen at this event. They've been talking about that for a while. You're actually starting to see it, John. Well, yeah, sorry. I mean, I think the first time, I remember speaking to Linda Sanford when she was running storage, and she's over in services now. I thought, actually, she moved out of services, but, and I said at the time, I think, you know, I think he looks like you have a tighter integration with Veritas at the time than you did with, than you do with Tivoli. And she said, yes, but I'm going to fix that. And I think we're starting to see a lot of that now. There's a much tighter integration at the product level, the solution level of the Tivoli products, Tivoli, whether it's Tivoli Performance, TPC, Total Productivity Center, or, but you're seeing much more integration in the products there. Integration between that and volume controller. But there's also moving IBM technology out into the broader community. So, you know, licensing IBM technology. So not just being an OEM of other people's technology, but actually licensing that technology and creating tighter partnerships outside, so. So IBM's relevant in the discussion with CIOs, and it's always been relevant in the discussion with CIOs. So just as I think, you know, we talk about EMC doing a great job with cloud, meets big data and whole IT transformation. They've really, you know, the marketing is terrific.  The storage group is able to draft on that.  So that's a big advantage. What IBM has to do is, like I say, get that innovation mojo back. And that's really key. And I think that, again, IBM, I said de-invested, one of the guests today said, well, not really de-invested, just put on ice. Well, that to me is de-investing. So that, and you can't just turn that on. We're seeing that at HP, how hard it is to say, okay, now I just want to turn on the R&D spigot. It takes years, and it's been now, let's see, probably five years, since IBM's really said, okay, somebody at the top said, all right, we're going after storage. It's a big market, we fell behind. Let's amp it up. And so now we're starting to see the fruits. Now we have to see that continued momentum. That's to me the key. And, you know, IBM structurally, so a GM within IBM storage, typically in the GM role for four years or so, right? I mean, you don't see GMs of IBM storage for 10 years. Right? I mean, how many GMs of IBM storage have you had? So this commitment to storage, if you want to be, if you want to be a leader in the storage space, thought of independently as storage, then you're going to have to have the commitment that it sustains across multiple GMs. If they stay with that sort of management. Yeah, well, that's, you know, that's, I think, a challenge for IBM because they don't typically have that GM stay in there. Not only is it, it's a challenge if you think of it from a product perspective. It's an advantage if you think of it from how well do you understand the customer? Well, the culture. Like Brian, for example, was CIO. But the culture of IBM is to, you know, they can think of different roles and that's how you climb the ladder. But my point is this, that now that the portfolio has been filled in and more completed, it's not 100% complete, but maybe now the subsequent GM, first, personally, I'd like to see Brian stay out for a while. First of all, I think that would be advantageous for the division.  It's like Pat Gelsinger said, John, the Beatles are staying together longer. Tucci's, you know, refusing to retire. I'm just tongue in cheek. But still, that kind of continuity, and Tucci made a lot of mistakes early on, you know? Let's face it.  He's made a lot of good moves too, but that continuity, he's learned from those mistakes and I think that is really valuable. So, I'd like to see more continuity. Now, in lieu of that continuity, if, let's say, Brian moves on, I'd like to see a process whereby, you know, somehow that knowledge transfer occurs in an orderly fashion, almost like it occurs from Palmasama to Ginny Romney. Right, I think that is a really orderly transition. That kind of a transition is the model for the divisions. So IBM has to prove that it can trickle that down into the divisions and that's, you know, I think key. Or, maybe Brian just stays in the job longer because he's really got, you know, finally got that portfolio to where it needs to be. Yeah. What do you guys think about the conversation that we've had today? Cause we've got some tweets coming in saying, wow, I'm really surprised how much they're talking about big data. Dave, we obviously, all we do is talk about big data and cloud mobile. How much we're talking about? No, no, no, I'm on theCUBE and here. Or at this event, yeah. Well, kind of both. We did talk a lot about big data, but we normally do, but for IBM to be that engaged, it wasn't like they were darting their eyes looking for answers. They're actually, yeah. I think you're making a really good observation and the reason why people, I think, are impressed is because IBM's got substance. You know, they got a lot of assets there. You know, it's not big data washing.  I mean, you heard from, you know, Jeff Jonas and a number of others at this event. So there's some real resources there. And IBM, you know, is a gamer. Yeah, there are clearly problems that are entrusted to IBM to work on the analytics side. It wouldn't necessarily be entrusted to some other companies, right? So they create a body of knowledge within those relationships, I think, that is just extremely powerful. And then being able to leverage that outside of, military, defense, government, kind of work that they might be involved in with governments around the world. They then leverage that into more commercial applications. That may be one of the things that they wrestle with. I mean, you know, so it's not only about the product anymore, right? I mean, it's certainly, you take a company like 3PAR. It was all obviously about the product, the compelence about the product. Once they get subsumed into a larger organization, there's so many other factors. So a lot of people criticize EMC and IBM and even HP. Look at the EVA for, you know, the products, they're old, they're deficient, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. A lot of the customers don't care. They want a problem solved.  Now, IBM, we think we've heard consistently, IBM's model is to buy in advance of the bubble.  You know, we'll see what happens with Flash. I think the Extreme I.O. acquisition by EMC was an attempt to maybe inject a little IBM. Yeah, get a little earlier. People got to ask, well, okay, great. I mean, I think Isilon was a good move at $2 billion. I think Data Domain was a good move, that's fine. 3PAR at 2.4 billion, but board members have to start asking, well, can't we pick these companies up for less? Right, and I know what you're going to do is better earlier. We're not buying their customer base. We're buying their technology to put into our customer base. So I think IBM's got that right. And to have some real strength around the, how do you bring the technology into a systems company and deliver to the customers, you know, as a solution. With all of the overhead of blue washing, it took nine months to blue wash XIV, right? So, and that's actually record time for them, I think. I didn't know they could actually... Yeah, I think XIV was actually much faster. I think store-wise, for example, that took a lot longer. Yeah, the blue wash, that one? Yeah. Right, I mean, that technology's coming out basically this week embedded, which we had predicted would be the trend in that real-time compression. What do you guys expect next? From when we're going to have all day tomorrow, we're going to talk to partners and customers tomorrow. Today was the exact day the management told them to us. What do you think is the going forward plan as you see it? And what do you guys think we need to look for? Kind of a, I guess, scorecard, check boxes. What do you think IBM needs to do going forward from this point? To me, IBM's got to prove to the channel that it is an attractive partner to do business with, and I think it's got to demonstrate that it can, in storage, that it can really change the game outside of the true blue accounts. That, to me, is the key. And it's made some progress there with XIV. A lot of that is accounts that used to do business with IBM, where IBM had a really strong relationship but they haven't bought storage in a couple years and now they're back. So I want to see more of that across the portfolio. That's, I think, the key, and I think that's what the channel is looking for. And to me, it's all about the channel right now. The IBM channel's been one of the most loyal channels out there, let's be clear. You invest heavily in IBM, IBM invest heavily in you. So they support, and they've not been sort of unclear about their channel strategy, right? They allow partners to deliver global services. They allow them to sign it and have IBM global services deliver it. They've got, I think, a very good relationship with their select partner. That said, when they get into having to compete in deals that are very much price-driven kinds of deals, they haven't been able to be as competitive sometimes, right? And particularly when it's around a specific acquisition. I'm doing a storage acquisition, right? I think the relationship with NetApp helped them some with the N-Series that enabled them to sell into a different set of customers with a different set of applications because, frankly, their NAS strategy was, failed how many times. It was going to be a Windows-based NAS. It was going to be a Unix-based NAS. So I think that some of those relationships helped. I think going, I always do. I'm not hearing a lot about SonS this week. You're not hearing a lot about SonS at Strong. I think, I'm excited about it. I think the big data angle is interesting. I do too. I think that they're finally going on some trends that take them out of their narrow vertical focus of storage and the broadened focus is interesting. What I think I'm going to look for and what I'm going to benchmark them besides some of the product, you guys go in the weeds on the product success and we'll talk about that. I'm looking for the marketing to continue. This is, if they let this event die the way it is, then they have not done their job because they have a chance right now to rewrite their narrative around what storage means in context. I heard that on the Q. I think the marketing has to move out of the smarter planet mindset. Keep that going from the brand marketing, IBM, smarter planet, great messaging, entertaining, good brand, but as marketers in the business units need to expand into social. So we know from social media, there's a variety of different channels and target audiences that need to be addressed. So one, I'm really happy that theCUBE is here. I'm looking forward to more cubes, but I think they have a chance to actually put new marketing tactics in place to create credibility and expand on that credibility that they have now. And if they don't do that, they'll miss an opportunity. Take a little more risk as it relates to, well, take advantage of more channels than what they think. Well, I wouldn't say it's a risk. I just think there's an unserved market out there of people who want to know what IBM is and relative to storage and solutions. And you got Tivoli, they got cloud, they got everything. IBM has the packages. They have the total package of you to put a team together and say compete in this cloud mobile social world. They have all the assets. Questions, can they assemble that, look like they're going to? And just a matter of telling people. Right. Yeah, I think one of the big issues is how do you take away some of the negative perceptions of IBM when you think of them narrowly in the context of storage? Historically, historically for the last 10, 15 years or so. And how do you sustain and grow the positive messages going forward? I think you're right. Well, IBM's ace in the hole. Continues to be the brand, right? And the services, they have client relationships solid. And their knowledge of verticals. Like nobody does the deep kind of vertical segmentation that IBM does to give knowledge of applications and business processes within verticals. So the point is that that fundamental has allowed the storage group to make some missteps and be somewhat complacent. And then finally, there was the wake up call, let's say five years ago. And again, I expect steady, slow, steady progress. Because IBM's got the right model. The economic model inside IBM obviously works. The M&A model obviously works. And so, I mean, IBM has got a great position right now. They have some things to work on. We've talked about that. But on the positive note is, Dave, to your point, they have incredible customer focus. They do have a strong channel that they've invested in. They could be broader on the channel side. I think they're, but they have great focus on the customer and they know the verticals and they have the relationship. So it's a supplier question as a brand. So they have that as a ace in the hole. And I think storage is smart not to draft on other events. Dave, you pointed that out earlier today. And I think that is absolutely a great thing. Control their own destiny, have this kind of event, put programs in place that are storage centric, but not just storage product. Good point, yeah, right. And I think that their ability to do data analytics specific to business problems that they see their customers facing, I think that's... Yeah, and I think, you know, the marketing side, one thing that I will say has been great is the Watson campaign has been fantastic. They've gotten great press, great flexing their muscles around big data. But yeah, that's a storage problem. Big data is about storage, right? But yet analytics, they're in this weird zone where storage is the king of the market right now in terms of what people want to talk about and build on. Yet, it's solutions around storage, so. Yeah, yeah. Analytics is an example, right? So, interesting. Well, and I think as things move to more real-time analytics, you know, that's an area where they understand real-time. Okay, so that's a wrap on IBM guys. Great day today. Also, news around, big news happening around the web, Dave. Xbox signed deals with ESPN, a lot of stuff going on with E3, Microsoft, this amazing living room takeover opportunity for cord cutters for the web. So, I mean, Xbox has got a huge platform expanding on that gaming platform to bring TV to that platform, it's amazing. And just general news, you know, the war games, we've been covering the cyber war between the U.S. and the Stuck-Nix virus, so. A lot of stuff, go to SiliconANGLE.com. SiliconANGLE.com is where all that coverage will be. Wikibon.org is where all the researches go there and check out the free content on both sites, and obviously SiliconANGLE.tv is where the videos are. And if you're on YouTube, you can go to YouTube.com slash SiliconANGLE, and all the videos from theCUBE are up there. So, hope you enjoy that content. I want to say thanks to IBM for letting us be here, be this independent media, watch their commercials. They support us, and so support them by watching their commercials. Dave, thank you very much. Thanks for having me, John. Okay, guys, that's a wrap from day one here at Edge, 2012, live in Orlando. We'll see you tomorrow.


Hey what's up guys welcome to her trending reviews so today I'm pretty excited this is the brand new lens from Tamron it's the 28 to 200mm f2.8 and it's the world's first all-in-one zoom lens at that maximum aperture of 2.8 so today I'm going to be showcasing a lot of sample photos and videos for you but the video you're seeing right now is recorded directly from the 200mm focal length on that Tamron lens and this this is the 28mm focal lens so let's get straight into it. All right guys so just to start off a little bit about the specs on this lens I'm actually filming and recording this video right now that you can see from this Tamron lens itself so I'll be showing you some b-roll footage of it that I shot a little bit earlier to cover some of the main points on the actual lens itself. So starting off this is the world's first all-in-one zoom lens for Sony E-mount cameras so it ranges from a wide angle to a very high focal length at a awesome maximum aperture of 2.8 and it's very lightweight Tamron have always been very good at building quality lenses that are not so heavy to take with you especially if you're always on the move this weighs only 575 grams and it's just so easy to take with you and as you're probably aware it's an RxD lens which stands for rapid extra silent stepping drive which is a motor that provides super fast and super silent autofocus especially when you're doing video recording then you're not going to hear any autofocus noise when you're filming and doing your shots so that's a really good bonus especially when you're creating YouTube videos like this. In addition to that the lens is weather sealed so it does compensate for a bit of moisture and a bit of drizzle so if you do get any water or a bit of oil on the lens it will wash away and you can do day-to-day weather usage outside I wouldn't ideally take it out if it's very heavy rain because who would take their SLR camera or mirrorless cameras out in that type of weather but it does a really good job in that front anyway. Now the build quality is pretty solid it's not as solid as like my previous Sigma 24 to 70 millimeter lens that I have which is very heavy and it's just metallic it's aluminium and sometimes you know as I was mentioning it can be a bit of a pain taking with you when you're always on the move in addition to that it does accept the standard 67 millimeter filters as well so if you do have those for any of your previous lenses for your Sony cameras then they should also fit perfectly fine so it's always great that the Tamron have always kept the standard of the filter sizes to compensate for all of the previous filters that you may have used and last but not least this lens doesn't have any optical image stabilization in built into it this is where Tamron make a lot of their cost savings they rely on the mirrorless camera ability to do the in-body image stabilization so if you are taking this out and you're doing handheld shots especially if you're maxing out the focal length probably at 200 millimeters then you're going to get some shaky footage and you're going to have to rely on the full power of your camera so that's something just to be aware of and I will be showcasing some handheld camera shots taken at 200 millimeters just to see how shaky or how well the in-body image stabilization has reacted to it so keep an eye out for that one as well but finally the price point is just under 800 pounds I think that's an absolute bargain for this type of lens especially when it's an all-in-one zoom lens which you're not going to get another camera lens at that price point for a very long time and of course they made some cost savings with the type of material they've used to build the body of the lens and of course not having any image stabilization in there as well if you can ignore some of those stuff and rely on things like the in-body image stabilization then I think this is an absolute bargain it's definitely worth the price point and I'm going to showcase some pictures and videos to you guys as well as some samples so see how actually good quality this is now although the maximum aperture is 2.8 that is at a specific focal length and that is done up until 35 millimeters so have a look at the sidebar here here's all the different focal lengths you'll have to reach for the switch in the aperture changes and the highest 5.6 aperture that you're going to get is at the 150 millimeter mark now just remember this is a zoom lens so you probably want to know how close you can get to certain objects so if you are going to get close for maybe macro shooting just be aware at the 28 millimeter mark you can only get close to 0.19 meters or 19 centimeters and at the 200 millimeter mark it's 80 centimeters or 0.8 meters so just be aware of that range and the distance between the lens and your focal points so having said that let's go ahead and I'm going to go take this out and take some shots for you guys to show you some samples and the capabilities of this lens but make sure you subscribe I've got a full review of a whole host of images photos videos autofocus tests low light photography nighttime photography all that kind of stuff in an upcoming video so make sure you subscribe and you won't miss that one but let's go ahead and take some sample shots just to quickly show you in this video okay guys so here are just some sample pictures I've taken at the 28 millimeter focal length and a 200 millimeter focal length as well just to give you guys a idea of the difference in how much of a zoom you can get with this lens as well so as you can see it is a pretty good zoom and you do get that nice depth of field at the 200 millimeter mark as well so there is a wide range and this is one of the reasons why this is the currently the best all-in-one zoom lens at f2.8 so I've just taken three sample pictures here at the 200 millimeter focal length when you're taking pictures at the full zoom levels you sometimes might get shaky footage so with my Sony a7 III iBIS currently set on it is doing a bit of the image stabilization already in the camera and as you can see at that length I've got some pretty smooth shots here with various different depths of field there as well and I think it's just come out great so there isn't any shaky pictures here everything looks crisp it's detailed and it's very clear now here's some portrait shots just to showcase to you guys what the actual capabilities of this lens is if you want to do portrait photography and as you can see I think it's just great the color standout it's vibrant it's very detailed it's crisp and I feel like this is a perfect camera that you can take out and test around with different focal lengths if you wanted to take any portrait photography with various different people now I will be covering a lot more low light pictures in an upcoming video as well so make sure you subscribe so you won't miss that one this first picture here is actually pretty dark the sun has gone down fully but it has tried to brighten up the picture a little bit now I have to take into consideration that my Sony a7 III is putting in a bit of the night mode as well when it does the scene detection but as you can see here it's not the most sharpest and clearest image but at f2.8 I think this has done a really good job I think if you look closely to my hat and around my face it is a little bit blurry and not too sharp but overall it's not too bad now in terms of getting macro shots in low light I've just gone very close to the raindrops here on my car and it's actually done a very good job it has blurred out a lot of the picture as well and you've got that horizontal strip which is in focus so ideally I would have liked to get a little bit more in focus as well but at f2.8 the camera has done a great job capturing some of these water marks and the droplets now in this picture here I've pointed it at the sky and I've got the lamp poster in the middle you can definitely see a lot of the shadows in the car on the left and then the houses in the distance so it is very dark and it hasn't pulled in a lot of the night mode as well so you do see a lot of the dullness in the picture as well so from my opinion it's not super clear but considering how dark it actually was I think it's done an okay job I wouldn't say an excellent job but for me I think it's possibly maybe seven out of ten now going into my bedroom I turned all of the lights off and I just put some fairy lights on on the background there on the shelf now I took a picture of this lamp and I've got my gimbal there just behind that it's completely pitch black and I kept my camera on a tripod for this photo otherwise it would have been very blurry and surprisingly with the faint lights coming out from the background there it has done a very good job taking a nice solid picture with deep blacks in there with dark shadows now this is something I would definitely consider a picture to look like once I've taken it in this lighting condition which is almost pitch black and finally a little bit about the autofocus so the first clip here I've used the 35 millimeter focal length as you can see panning to my face and panning away it is quite smooth it's quite quick and I can see that it jumps very quickly in getting me back in focus now moving on to the 50 millimeter one if I do the same thing move slightly slower it takes a little bit longer to get the focus back but again when it pans back onto me it does give me a reasonable amount of speed the quicker I go I can predict that I wouldn't get the autofocus back much like in the example here for the 70 millimeter so I'm walking towards the camera here to show that I stay in focus and I continually stay in focus until I get quite close to it now as I move away from the screen it took about two seconds to focus in the background and when I come back and move away I moved too quickly for it to focus so in that focal length it didn't come that fast the autofocus didn't happen that fast so as you can see the longer the focal length the longer it will take for the lens to try and get that focus back into play overall I'm very happy with this lens I will be using this as my daily driver going forward and if you did like this review I hope you give this a thumbs up and I hope you subscribe the next video that I'll be releasing on this lens will be the full comparison of all the different photos videos autofocus test and night mode shots as well using this lens so that'll be a little bit lengthier so keep an eye out for that just make sure to hit that subscribe button if you have any other questions about this lens then do drop a comment below otherwise thanks for watching guys and I'll see you next time


So the Yankees sweep this three game set against the Toronto Blue Jays and there's things to pick out. And one of the things you pick out is the progress of Greg Bird. The Yankees have certainly been patient. They've been waiting. They've been wondering. But it hits a grand slam in the first inning. And then you kind of realize again, David, why they love this guy in this ballpark. Well, it's true. And you keep waiting and you said it just right. And Aaron Boone sends some messages to Greg Bird. He's sat him against tough left-handed pitchers. And he's kind of sent him a message of you need to be more aggressive. I want to see some sense of urgency. And Greg Bird responded this weekend. He is the story of the weekend, the story of this finale here. The Yankees sweep the Blue Jays. And that's no small thing, even though if you look to Red Sox, they're having a historic pace of a season. The Oakland A's are too. The Oakland A's are coming up in the rearview mirror. So the Yankees got to look both ways. And there's plenty of time left for the Yankees. But nonetheless, you want to feel good about yourselves. And you need Greg Bird, especially with Aaron, judge out of the lineup. And it was an impressive bounce back. Now, are the Blue Jays having a good year? Of course, they're not. But when you lose two out of three to the Tampa Bay Rays, and in the final two games, each game you score a run, you can beat a little bit down in the dumps as well. They came back, and they swept this three-game series to go 32 games over 500, which is the highest they've been since the end of the 2011 season. And as Paul said, you can't just dismiss that. 32 games over 500 is a great season. Unfortunately, for the Yankees, the Red Sox are having a better season. Yeah, it is. And to give the Red Sox credit, they have shown no signs in slowing down. If the Yankees went 500 the rest of the way, they had a 500 record, the rest of the way, they'd win 97 games. They're on a pace to win 102 games. And that could pick up if they get Aaron Judge back and get Gary Sanchez back. And I think that's the story. Jay Hap is great. He was a perfect addition. Lance Linn had a little bad first hit in the other night, but he's a professional pitcher and another depth piece that's going to really help them. But you want to see the Yankees full Monty. You want to see Gary Sanchez right and healthy. You want to see Aaron Judge right and healthy. And then we'll see where they are. And we say, you know, Treadwater, they've done more than that without those two big pieces in the lineup. In fact, without Aaron Judge in the lineup, they've averaged more runs per game than when they had him in the lineup previously. So they've done the job. It's the pitching that's been a little sketchy at times.  They've been at one in about three weeks. And then they start the two-game set against Miami.