segment of condo inside our weekly. And today, and I also want to extend our happy holidays to everybody. Hope everybody's going to be safe over the holidays. I want to introduce my guest today. His name is Bobby. He is with Pacific Drane Services. He's going to tell us the importance of maintaining our sewer drains, whether you're in a condo, whether you're in a townhouse or even a single family. It has to be issued to always be maintained at least yearly to avoid those surprise backups. So let me introduce Bobby. So Bobby, tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got started in this industry. Okay, my name is Robert Perkins. Everybody calls me Bobby. I got introduced to this by a friend of mine years ago. I've been doing this since I was 13, 14 years old. And now I'm 53. And I have my own company. I've been in my company for 16 years, worked for several different companies. And I just wanted to do something on my own to pursue my career. So what should like, there's kind of like a little bit difference between condos and townhouses and in your single family. So let's start off with a high rice condo. How do you normally go about doing those surcofs? Because it's not just the ones on the ground, with the little things that you would, right? If you do it from the top down. So we actually go from the bottom up when we do our preventive maintenance, especially if we're doing like a kitchen stack for a high rice building. Because people realize that what happens with high rises is there's a lot of grease that's being let down. Soap is actually grease which people don't realize and they don't run enough water, hot water to flush the system. So a high rise actually is considered worse than a restaurant with the grease. They have about 50 times more than what a restaurant would have in their lines. So we come in and we either say like a 20 story building will go from like the fifth floor, 10th floor, 15th floor, 20th floor, go from each stack every five floors and clean the lines all the way down and flush it when we're done. That's to help break up the grease that's built up in the pipes. But also people don't realize this grease buildup actually turns to acid and eats the pipes from the inside out. Wow, I didn't know that either. Yeah, so that's why a lot of these buildings are having leakage is because the pipes are rotting. Not only that, drain oil, liquid plumber is a normal for those drains. They do cause a lot of problems for the building itself. So a lot of my high rise buildings they have notes posted that do not use drain oil or liquid plumber. So it's a grease. So that usually is one big common thing that could clog drains. So what should be the proper way to actually like baking grease? What should be the proper way to dispose of grease other than putting it down the drain? Basically put it in a little mayonnaise jar or any type of jelly jars that are empty. Put it in a freezer, throw it away. Or a lot of people will actually just wipe it off the pan and dump it in a rubbish can or dump it in the yard. But that's perfect for some people. Okay, I know at one time City Mail used to sell, it looked like a cardboard aid carton. I think, I remember right, you pour the grease in, I mean like I saved my cardboard aid cartons and that's where usually I dump the grease.  Yeah, people do that today but a lot of people don't want to go out and buy that little product just to put grease in.  We don't tell people to do it, but people do do it and if they are gonna do it, they need to back it up with a lot of hot water to flow it through the system. I'm surprised to hear that even dish soap is a cause of some clogs. Like dish soap, shampoo, body wash, conditioner, everything that is soap-wise is made with grease. As they say, grease cuts grease. Oh, that's really, that's really interesting.  What is one of your worst situations that you can remember that you've ever incurred that could have been preventive? Pretty much a lot of my jobs are the worst, especially with a disposal and people will constantly dump Thanksgiving dinners, leftovers and with the water saver flushes, I mean the water saver sinks, what they will do is not run enough hot water through the system. So when they're running a disposal it plugs up and it plugs up in their line and then when they clear their line it goes into the riser of the high rise and it clogs below someone's unit which is called a riser and then that unit below starts to overflow. Say they're on the fifth floor and you've got a 25-story building, now you've got 20 floors of water from the kitchen sink coming up in your unit. Same with like the bathroom, the bathroom sinks, the toilet, the bathtubs, same scenario. Here it builds up, riser gets clogged and it backs up and overflows into units.   Honestly for me for a drain cleaning company every day is the worst day. It doesn't have to be Thanksgiving or a holiday, it's just people in preference doing stuff they shouldn't be doing with the sinks or the toilets. So what should do that to the other disposal? Basically if you're gonna, you can put pretty much everything down the disposal but you need to back it up with a lot of water. So if you got a faucet that's producing a little bit of water that's not going to help you. You need something that has a more high volume or what you do is you put the food in the disposal, cover the disposal with a cap, fill up your sink maybe about one third of the way, pull the cover, hit the switch for the disposal and then everything will flow through you through it but keep the water on as much as possible. That way you get a lot of head pressure pushing all the stuff out of your line into the sewer line. Okay so that's high rises and then you have your town houses like some of them are only like two or three maybe four stories would be the same principle. Same principle, same concept, just the same type of situations. And then single family homes. Same. So maybe everybody, everybody should be doing it at least once a year. Once a year for the kitchen sinks is what we highly recommend. Okay what about the sewer cleanouts? It's two to three years all depends what they want. If they have a big household old sewer plumbing then we would recommend once a year. If it's a newly built house like in the 80s up with ABS pipes or PVC pipes then it's not too bad because ABS is a closed pour versus cast iron being an open pour so everything sits inside a cast iron and then builds and builds and builds. Cast iron is one of the worst ones as far as grease because the grease adheres to the pipe and then starts to build. ABS or PVC because it's a closed sealed pipe. A lot of times it just slips right through but it can still get clogged up by putting wipes, heavy toilet paper, sanitary napkins, stuff that should not be flush that says flushable should not be flush. Yeah because our metal sewer pipes they rust from the inside out so there could be some rust particles that are just kind of like sticking to each other and it's going to catch up, catch that flow of toilet paper that's going to build and build and build and eventually you're going to get end up with a clog, right? Yeah so like even like for the older homes we do descaling of the sewer lines where what happens is over a period of time valleys build up in the pipe because of the rust and all the debris and it gets stuck to the pipe and then it starts building and building so we go in, we clean out the pipe from all the debris, we use a camera to verify everything is cut up and then we back it up with a jetter and we pull everything out of the pipe. It makes it almost like new but not brand new so stuff does not get hung up in the pipe. So when you descale it it's just is it kind of the machine does it kind of look like you know when they turn the drain? It's the same principle as clearing the drain but what you do is you're going to use a blade that is called for for it or nowadays they have a chain and that spins around and breaks up all the debris. That way and also while we're doing that we're viewing the line to see if there's any cracks or troughs in the drain which is caused by wear and tear of the pipe at the bottom where the base of the pipe disintegrates and disappears. Also it's kind of literally sitting in dirt at that point? Yeah. Oh then what that you guys got to dig it out and replace it? That's when we bring in another company to replace the pipe. Oh sounds expensive. My other thing is so you do also the sewer clean else that needs to be done and then while you do that do you do you send down a camera to make sure everything is clear tree roots? Upon repress. Upon repress we're doing a preventive maintenance and once they want the camera added then we'll do it. Most times it's just go in, clear out the lines, make sure everything is good but if some buildings specifically want the camera to check the conditions of the pipe so we also do that as well. So what would you recommend for some people that because you know there's all these different kinds of companies now that are selling like re-piping? No, I guess from the picture and I want to just put the pictures I see is that they put in like a layer that surrounds the inside the piping. So they put a liner in the pipe. Yeah yeah so how does that work when you're also like wouldn't that kind of be harmful if you're snaking the pipe or you've been you know trying to clean it? Yeah well there's a difference with lining and a regular so if they're going to line a pipe you cannot use a cable with a blade on it to clean that line because there's a liner inside so fiberglass liner. Our company we don't do that. For me I like to have things dug up and replaced but in certain situations people don't want to do it or it's too much for them so what they want to do is have the pipeline. In cases like that they need to let the people who come out to do the drain lines know that they have a liner in there because we won't know and what ends up happening is the blade will catch the liner and we'll end up breaking the liner. Yeah I can imagine that being a mess. So then if they have a liner then how would they encourage right? You'd have to use the jetter. Oh the hydro jetter? Yeah it's a high pressure it's a high pressure jetter it's got mausoles on the end that has forward and reverse penetrating so that you can clear out the line. That also helps to break up tree roots, reese, debris that's built up in the pipe, food. We have problems with kitchen sinks and stacks where a cable will go through the break the blockage and we won't be able to clear it so now we have to go with the mini jetter which shoots 1800 to 2500 psi and that will actually help you to penetrate and break it out and get it out of the way. So like there's a war of caution for a lot of people like if they constantly I mean if they have more than I would say one or two blockages a year they've got a problem. The snake is not it's only a temporary fix because I remember one someone was telling me that every once in a while their the sewer would back up and so they would call like either road and water or whoever they can get a hold of and they would clear it but then like maybe a year later or you know sometime later it would happen again no and so they didn't do the same thing um but everybody needs to be aware of that sometimes that's only a temporary fix it's only a band-aid fix they really need to spend that money to send that camera down because it shouldn't be happening that often. Sometimes if it happens once a year it's not a problem because things build up so now if you're getting a problem like every two three months then you definitely recommend using the camera. A lot of people who buy homes we recommend that they put the camera in to check the condition of the pipe before they buy yeah because you don't want to buy a home not knowing what it looks like inside the lines go ahead and do all your renovations and you find out your sewer line is no good right right you know so the camera is a key thing in in our job um I recommend that to a lot of places and especially if you're having problems with your sewer line every two to three months every four months um a lot of it is caused by just the toilet paper itself. If the toilet paper is too thick with the water saver toilets today and you have cast iron pipes it doesn't have enough head pressure to push the paper all the way out through into the main sewer line. Yeah it's one condo because they you know they finally set the camera down and what happened was the pipe was was clogged but there was only enough of a hole for a pinhole yeah and so so they finally figured out and so they actually now at least pinpointed the real problem and actually set something down to actually clean out that you know so that now the hole is the way it's supposed to be you know yeah um so if you have continuous blockages um yes to me even once a year sometimes might be too much but still if it's happening too frequently out of out to me out of but for cautionary purposes so you don't have that sewer backing up into your house um it pays that little extra money just to send the camera down just to double check that you don't have. Well peace of mind is always good by running the camera so that they know that okay my pipe is clear my pipe is clear there's nothing wrong with my pipe okay now it's something that we're doing yeah maybe the paper's too thick a lot of people like when they use the toilet they like to roll the toilet paper on their heads and they don't realize that they're creating a massive ball of toilet paper that will not break up because it's too thick and if you have a water saver toilet you're actually going to flush the toilet it'll it'll plug up in your toilet or it's going to go downstream on a turn and get stuck. Now the next time somebody use the bathroom same scenario it starts starts building a dam before it finally backs up. Let's talk about toilet paper so um I know a friend of mine at her house the plumber told them they cannot they can only use a certain brand so let's talk about your experiences with toilet papers. Different types of toilet papers are harmful to your system because it will not break up uh for one thing it's like charming angel soft the papers are too thick especially with a water saver toilet um for me I use Kirkland or Marathon I'm not too sure about the Sam's Club brand but for my side I tell them either the Kirkland or the Marathon brand I've done tests where I stick the paper folded in half and put it underneath the faucet and it breaks up within one second that's something that you want to use but if you fold your toilet paper in half and you put it underneath your faucet and it doesn't break like two three four seconds that's a problem because it will not break up fast enough in your sewer line to be flushed through and it just sits in your pipe. So you want the toilet paper that has the best biodegradable abilities? Yes something that breaks up better because of the situation with the water saver toilets that is a big problem. So most of the toilets you get now are they all water saver? Yes they're all water saver. All toilets are water saver because now certain toilets where this is your tank you'll get that much of water so that much of water versus the old style that much head pressure good this much head pressure not too good on a house that's old um big house long sewer line a lot of turns so you want something that's actually going to push it through so some places we tell them flush twice. Yeah okay okay I was at Lowe's recently I saw a sponge flood that caught my eye it has an overflow so there's poop that's up and near the top or if it overflows it goes into there but that's pretty cool you don't end up with a flood in your house and yeah so but and I think that one someone told me that when they flush it it's loud. That's the pressure assist toilet it's a good toilet I have those in my home as well um but you still can clog it up oh yeah you're not careful yeah okay okay bottom line is watch what you throw down those drains yes make sure you're really thoroughly rinsing out your sink after you're done washing dishes toilet paper take note of your toilet papers and what you throw down those toilets because I know I read a something for dummies it was what you don't throw down the toilet for dummies and there was a whole list no cigarette butts no dental floss q-tips um sanitary stuff wipes especially because some of those wipes are almost like a like a like a cloth you know yeah it is a cloth and um and they're kind of they're kind of I want to say more like polyester yes polyester feel to it um dryer sheets because that definitely will not break up because it was snagging the pipe as well yeah so if you've got a metal pipe there's a there's a little nicot it'll just stick right there um and watch what you throw down the garbage disposal I mean I know um I've always been told no no eggs no eggshells so you're I mean um coffee grinds and besides eggshells you can recycle them into your into your yards it's a right calcium so um once I learned that actually I feel like my work is and they actually do a lot better right so we also have a product that's called bio one it's a live organic waste heater it's approved by the EPA it's eco-friendly um if they want to go they can go to our website at pacificdrainservice.com and it will be on my website so we do that for a lot of buildings restaurants where once a month we put in two to four ounces so it's basically set it and forget it you don't have to run water just dump it in and just let it do its thing dump it into every drain you can dump it into your kitchen sink your bathroom sink your bathtub your washer and drain um there's a couple buildings here that use it one is Puno Olcliffe's one is Discovery Bay 1448 Young Street they also use it I do have it at the Waimolo shopping center in Ohana barbecue and as well as Kabuki's restaurant and that has substantially lowered their blockages so it's something that people can look into it it's not something that we push on people but it's a product that we have and I've been using that for about 25 years so what is it what does it contain in there just enzyme stuff that will get rid of stuff yeah so the msds sheets everything would be on my website and that would explain everything what it's about it's called one biotechnology that is their website and they can feel free to google that and they can look that up as well okay cool so um we're kind of nearing the end is there any other um tips and tricks that you want to give to some of our um condo board members or even our resident managers general managers um maintain their their drains and what you know what they should do to protect their properties um the best thing to do is preventive maintenance um always run a lot of hot water especially if you're putting soap and grease down your sinks um shaving in your bathroom washing your hands washing your face in your bathroom sink same thing run a lot of hot water um that stuff is key to help keep the drain flowing properly and as we talked about no sanitary napkins no wipes no baby wipes um what else all those kind kinds of things will back your problems and give you a lot of headaches yeah because I remember cigarette butts don't mildly great they just I mean even if you throw it in the garden people are like always screaming because they don't mildly great you know they just stay yeah you know so I can I can imagine that being just a build up alone so um are you um I hope you're and your family are going to have a really nice Christmas and are prepared for like a really nice Christmas I'm kind of looking forward to the to Christmas and New Year's this year um and I really want to thank you Bobby for being on the show giving us an education of what we we should and should not do with our sewers and our drains and um and your what was it bio bio one bio one okay I want to have to look that up because that's always a good thing to have and also the thing do you don't put down the to clear plot would be like the drain oh um what's the other rumor drain oh anything that has acid in it acid and live because I remember someone told me don't put that because that's yeah there's also a product called you'll kick that people put down their drains which is pretty much straight acid that is not good for the pipe because it basically issue the walls of the pipes and sharpen the life of the sewer line okay so um we should all check out the bio one I know I definitely have because it's kind of something good to have to just keep your drains clear and um I mean I learned about the soap I didn't realize that the so called eventually clock can also fog up um yes I look on people's faces when we tell them that soap is grease is is funny people don't realize that sometimes I water my down because you spend more time rinsing off that you know you can always water it so I usually water it down a little bit and then um use it for the suds that's at the end of the night when you're washing dishes the suds is what actually turns into the grease so that's why we tell people flush it let your water one two to three minutes so you can make sure you force everything through that is okay that's really a that to me was mind-blowing lessons you know and I figured okay but that's supposed to be good no not always that good still have that property that's good this was a really good learning experience so um thank you Bobby for um being on the show with me today and um sharing our sharing your knowledge about um our sewers and our water pipes um and make sure that they're all maintained well and by one so everybody make sure you go to pacific drain services dot com pacific drain service dot com okay and look up by one um yes thank you so much 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What I want to show today for the Circa Python Parsec is a really simple command that you can use to check how much memory is being used on your board when you are doing things, when you're importing things, when you're importing libraries, when you're using big files. How much memory have you got left? This is a really simple command you can use.  And here's how you can use it in real time. So what I'm going to do is go into the REPL for this Pico that I have sitting right here. And now I'm going to just go and hit control C, which brings me directly to the REPL after going into screen.  Now the garbage collector has a bunch of different things you can do with it. But what I'm going to use is this mem free. So if I do a G, let's say print, print GC mem free, it will tell me I have about 210K.  And you'll see now my available memory has decreased because we've added another library in. So as you can see by the code I have up above, you can sprinkle this through some code while you're debugging it and working on it so you can have it do things, maybe bring in a library, check the available memory and use it as a way of figuring out where you're running out of space in case that's something that's happening to you. And so that's how you can use the garbage collector to check the available memory on your board inside of Circuit Python. That is your Circuit Python Parsec.


I don't know, maybe sensitive is not the right word for the for the scenic sermon.  So we're talking about separation in our Baptist Basics series. We're talking about separation last week. Last week we had a sermon on separation, who we should separate from, what separation is, you know, why separate in our lives. But all from the perspective, and I kind of pulled a fast one on you because I'm going to finish out this idea of separation this evening, all from the perspective last week of separating from the unsaved. Separating from unbelievers. Okay? Tonight we're going to look at the perspective of separation from the saved. Separating from believers. And you're like, what? You're like, last week was enough. You know, I mean you're telling me that there's some believers in our lives that we need to separate from, and that is exactly what the Bible teaches. Now this Baptist Basics sermon, this is a great sermon series for newcomers to Verity Baptist Church. So please join us for all these sermons. But look, this is one of the things that we're going to talk about tonight that you're probably not going to hear at many other churches. This is a Biblically run church here. If it's in the Bible, that's what we're going to do here. Okay? So look, let's look into this idea of separation from believers. You're saying, you know, our brothers and sisters in Christ. Yes, the Bible does teach that in some cases there needs to be separation from believers as well. So look, failing here actually in some ways can be more dangerous for a Christian than last week's sermon. So let's look into it. First Corinthians chapter 5. We just read it. The context of it is a church member, a brother in Christ who is in fornication. That is the context of this letter that Paul is writing here. You know, what is taking place? Go look back at verse number 1 and verse number 2 of 1 Corinthians chapter 5. The Bible says it is reported commonly that there is fornication among you. Such fornication as is not named among the Gentiles that one should have his father's wife. And you're puffed up and have not rather mourned that you have done this deed, that he that done this deed might be taken away from you. So not to get it too into detail on, you know, the situation with the father's wife. You know, whether the father was still alive or not. You know, we don't know. But look, you have somebody in fornication here, the Bible says. Okay? You have somebody that's in the church in fornication. In physical relationship with someone that they are not married to. And the Bible says in verse number 2 that he that done this deed, I mean Paul is saying here what to do. He's telling them what to do.  It doesn't say that this person isn't saved. It doesn't say that this person isn't going to heaven. It just says they're in this wicked sin and they need to be taken away from you. And then he explains why in this verse. Look at 1 Corinthians chapter 5 and look down at verse number 11. Now we did a whole sermon series on this. We did a whole sermon series on 1 Corinthians chapter 5 and verse number 11 specifically on reasons that people would be, you know, that church discipline would be exercised against somebody. Meaning somebody would actually be taken out of the church or asked to not come back to the church anymore. Look at 1 Corinthians 5.11. So we have the context of this man in fornication and then Paul says he should be taken away from them. And then Paul gives other specific sins that fall under the same category where that type of person that's in these sins should also be taken away. Now look at verse 11. But now I've written unto you to not keep company. Look that means not hanging out with, not being around, not fellowshiping with. If any man that is called a brother be a fornicator or a cubitist or an idolater or a railer or a drunkard or an extortioner. With such in one, no not to eat. So this is the context once again is someone that you're going to church with.  So the mechanics of this, if somebody comes to the church and they're living with their, you know, someone they're not married with, married to, you know, then obviously by the time they get involved in the church and they understand the church and they're called a brother, they're in fellowship with the church, at that point they're going to be given some options. And this has happened here. They're going to be given some options. Either they have to stop that living situation, they have to get married, or they have to not come to church here anymore. Because you say that's mean. That's what the Bible says. I don't care how mean it sounds. I don't care what anybody thinks.  That's what I care. So I mean, and you think about, and the Bible here in 1 Corinthians 5 actually gives us very good reasons why this is here. The Bible doesn't just say just do this. It gives us actual reasons for this. And look, the reasons for it are for you and for the person that's in sin. Look at verse number 5. The first reason is this. I mean why you have someone in fortification, why would you be so mean as to kick them out of a church for that? Well, the first reason is in verse number 5. The first reason is for that person. Actually it's loving for that person to do that. And why? Look, to deliver such and one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh.  It says look to deliver them out to the world so they can suffer the consequences of their sin. That's what it says. Look, the goal of 1 Corinthians 5 is that the person would get right. Is that the person would get out of sin. And look, if churches if Christianity today would actually practice what the Bible teaches to practice, people's lives would be saved. Quite literally. It doesn't say to destroy their soul. It says or to take away their salvation. It says just so they can suffer the physical consequences of their sin. And they can get right. Look, they can suffer chastisement from the Lord and get right. And be, look, and be restored. And be restored unto fellowship. That is the goal. That is the most loving thing you could do for a brother and sister. There's another reason though. Look at verse number 6. There's another reason that all of these sins in 1 Corinthians 5 verse number 11 are to not be tolerated in the church. Now look around here. Look around here at all the kids in this church. Look at all the little kids in this church. And all the you know, this is a family integrated church. These kids, they're listening to the preaching of the Bible here. We're reading the Bible. These kids are hearing the Word of God. They're learning the Word of God. They're getting saved. And then they're living the Word of God.  But look at verse 6. Your glorying is not good. No ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. You know what he's saying here? He's like, look, sin spreads. Sin spreads like leaven, like a fungus is what he's saying. So if you're around sin, especially in the church, you become you'll become desensitized to it. I mean, I've preached entire sermons about fornication and the dangers of fornication. Now fornication is sinning against your own body.   And it's terrible. But then, so I preach all this, and then we've got a bunch of people in the church that are just in fornication and everybody knows it.  It makes a joke of me. It makes a joke of the Word of God. I mean, forget me. It makes a joke. I mean, these kids will grow up and they will think, yeah, you know, I hear what he's saying but look what they're doing here.  Kids are smart. That's why the family integrated church, that's why the Bible teaches that the kids should hear the Word of God. Because you know what, these kids understand way more than a lot of people give them credit for at a way younger age. And I've said it before, I'll say it again, what we do is way more important than what we say. So we will have a biblical church here. And it's not because I want it this way, it's because the Bible says it and that's what we're going to do. So this is talking about, for two reasons, this person is to be put out of the church.  We've done a whole sermon series on it. So how does it apply to separation? This means very simply this. If someone is put out of the church for one of these reasons, listen carefully, you are not to continue fellowshiping with them. If somebody is put out of the church for fornication or drunkenness or whatever, a believer, someone that's called a brother, you're not to just okay they just can't come to church but we're all just going to hang out with them anyway. That's not what the Bible teaches. Look, you're not to keep company with them, the Bible says. Verse number 11, I mean, look, church discipline is one thing. But, I mean, if you try to, you know, run around church discipline and you still just have that same relationship with that person that's not even allowed to come to church anymore, look, you're standing in the way of God's chastisement on that person. And that's not, look, good luck with that. That's not where you want to be. But wait, there's more. So we're talking about, you know, separating from somebody who would be in those specific sins and get removed from the church. Hopefully to be restored. Okay, hopefully to be restored, to get away from that sin. To get that sin out of their life and to be back in fellowship where they should be, where all believers should be. But there's more. Turn to 2nd Thessalonians chapter 3. If not someone who's thrown out of the church, we are to separate from them. If they were thrown out of the church, you know, I mean thrown out is maybe a tough term. You know, they've been removed from fellowship. You know, does that make you feel better? Removed from fellowship of the congregation. For the protection, for number one, to get them right and to protect the church itself. Okay, look, if we want to have a church like Jesus said that the gates of hell will not prevail against, we better follow His rules. Is what it boils down to. Look at 2nd Thessalonians chapter 3. Look, there's more. It's not just someone who's been removed from fellowship. There's more believers that you may have to separate from in your life. 2nd Thessalonians chapter 3 look at verse number 10. The Bible says this. It says, for even when we were with you, this we commanded you that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly. Just underline that in your Bible. Working not at all, but our busy bodies. Now them that are such, we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ that with quietness they work and eat their own bread. So this is talking about somebody who's not working. Look, that's just the beginning of it. They're not working and what happens? They get into disorderly conduct. And it's somebody who's not working, they're just getting into disorderly conduct. But then look at verse number 14. And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man and have no company with him. That he may be ashamed. Yet count him not as an enemy. Like look, he's not your enemy. Don't hate him. It's the same thing with the guy that gets, you know, the guy or the gal or whatever that gets put out of the church for those specific sins in 1 Corinthians 5. Look, don't hate them. They're your brother. They're your sister. You know, pray for them. Pray that, you know, pray that they get right. Pray that, you know, they can be restored. It's the same thing here. Look, this is the same exact concept as 1 Corinthians 5 is what we're dealing with him. Count him not as an enemy, but as a brother. So here, he's a believer. He's saved. But look, stemming from the fact that they don't work and they've gotten into disorderly conduct, we are commanded to separate from them.  You know, if you've ever heard the term the idle hands or the devil's workshop, it's talking about 2 Thessalonians 3. That's where that came from. Okay, that wisdom came from the Bible. Turn to 1 Timothy 5. Let me just park it here for a minute and just look at the root of this problem. You know, people that don't work and look, you will find plenty of saved people that are like this. Unfortunately, I'm sorry to report it. But look, people that don't work, you'll find plenty of saved people. You know, men that are just constantly on unemployment are constantly finding ways to not work. I mean, look, you will find saved people like this. But there's more. I mean, women as well. Look at 1 Timothy 5. Look at verse number 8. 1 Timothy 5 is number 8. I've read this many times. But if any provide not for his own, especially for those of his own house, he had denied the faith and is worse than an infidel. That's a bad verse if you don't work. Let not a widow, but then it continues.  That's 60 years old. Having been the wife of one man well reported of for good works. If she had brought up children, she had lodged strangers, she had washed the saints' feet. If she had relieved the afflicted people, she had diligently followed every good work. But the younger widows refuse. For when they, when they begun to wax wanting against Christ, they will marry.   Now look at verse 13. It's the same thing as 2 Thessalonians chapter 3 is what happens here. And with all they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house, and not only idle, but tattlers, and here it is again, busy bodies. Speaking things which they ought not. It's the exact same thing on the women's side for 2 Timothy chapter 3.  The Bible says you should get married. And certainly not supported and you say, well there's no one to marry. Well, that's another sermon in itself. But I mean, certainly not supported by the church, you know, to support yourself. Or the Bible says you'll cause trouble. Now look, with men and women, this is almost, look men and women, especially men I've seen it the most, that just will not work. It is like a guarantee. They are going to cause trouble. It's almost like the Bible's true. But every single time, as a matter of fact, I tried to think of a time, I tried to think of a time when I was writing this sermon that there was someone in the church that I could think about that didn't work and they didn't cause trouble. And I couldn't think of one. I couldn't think of one. Every single time that there is idle hands, a man that won't work in the church that did not work, they just cause trouble. Every time. So while working is the root cause the main problem is what? The main, you know, not working is the root cause the main problem is, you know, they become busy bodies, they're walking disorderly. What does that mean? That means they're, you know, they're getting into sin. They're getting into sins. It says don't eat with that person. Don't keep company with that person. Look, those people you know, and for the same reason as 1 Corinthians 5, they'll drag you into it. They will drag you into trouble. So here's a, here's a test for you. Here's a test for you.  No problem.  To do spiritual things, to go to church, to go soul winning, to you know, fellowship, you know, with believers. Look, here's the thing with backslidden people, folks. It's like, they don't like other people outgrowing them. I've seen this so many times. Backslidden people don't like getting past. They like everybody else to stay where they are. And this is what it's talking about in 2 Corinthians 3. Look, so they want you to know, no, no, no, stay where I'm at. Don't outgrow me. So they'll discourage spiritual things. So the Bible is telling you to watch for this. You know, the Bible calls this in 1 Corinthians chapter 5, calls it Levin. It calls it Levin that spreads through the church.  Backsliding can spread. Be careful with this. And usually, you know what, and it's 2 Corinthians chapter 3, it just attacks right on 1 Corinthians chapter 5. Because guess what? Almost every single time I can think about it, it's the same sins. It's almost like the Bible knew what it was talking about when it listed those specific sins in 1 Corinthians chapter 5. Almost every time it's fornication, it's drunkenness, it's idle hands, people not working, those things right there.  So when you see it, you may have to separate if it is dragging you down. Look, for you and for them. Both. Turn to numbers chapter 16. Look, I mean, look if you have a friend, say you have a good friend. You have a good friend that just like, you know, you're in this Christian life and you guys are just killing it together. And all of a sudden, you know, you just like, you just keep growing and for whatever reason they just start backing out of the Christian life. Look they're not, it's not that they're not losing their salvation, they're still going to be in heaven with you all that. But look, in this life on this earth it's, I mean, they're probably not, either they're not growing as fast as you, usually though, one of them turns and goes the other way. Because in this Christian life what I've seen is you're either going forwards or you're going backwards. There's very few times where you'll see somebody like, you know, just trying to put it in cruise control. You're either growing or you're backsliding. That's kind of how it is. That's kind of what you'll see with the, you know, the pragmatics of it. Look at Numbers chapter 16. But here's the thing, with that friend of yours that just gets backslidden and you're growing, don't you want them to get right? I mean, who in the world would have a Christian brother or a Christian sister, you know, in Christ that they would love to just see fall and sin and just ruin this life? I mean, so look, you've got to let God's chastisement work. Look, God, they're saved. God's their heavenly Father. He's going to take care of it. Don't you get in the way of it? Look at Numbers chapter 16. Look at verse 25.  So they got up from the tabernacle of Korah, Nathan and Abiram on every side, and Nathan and Abiram came out and stood in the door of their tents and their wives and their sons and their little children. He's like, look, just get away from them. Look, he's talking to saved people here. Here's these wicked people and he's telling the saved people, just get away. Why? Because you're going to get sucked into their sins. You're going to get dragged into their sins. So the first thing is, you want your friend to get right. You want your friend to do something in his life to keep plowing his Christian life. You want him to get right. Step out of the way and let God handle it. Don't stand in the way of God's chastisement. Don't try to make it better for them. That's why you're supposed to just separate from them for that time at least. Same thing as 1 Corinthians chapter 5. But the second thing is, you don't want to be near those people when the missiles start raining down.  In Numbers chapter 16. But look, 2 Thessalonians chapter 3 is not just about people. I just want to get this point across very carefully. It is not just about people getting thrown out of church. 2 Thessalonians chapter 3 is one of the most consistently demonstrated concepts in the Bible from my perspective. Because it is just a guarantee.  It's fairly easy. If you want to recognize it, you will. Are these people that I'm around right now making me more or less spiritual? And trace it back and you will find yourself a backslidden believer right there. Someone that's wrapped up in the four things that we talked about this morning. That's wrapped up in covetousness. That's wrapped up in just, you know, some sin. Drunkenness, fornication, not working. You know, that's wrapped up in false teaching. You know, Romans 16. Separate yourself. You know, get away from people that are teaching different doctrines. You know, maybe they're teaching some, you know, maybe they're saved and they're teaching some weird stuff. Look, it happens.  Look, stay away from that. That's what the Bible is telling us.  Maybe they're just foolish. It's possible. Or just, you know, watch out for backslidden buddies is what I'm trying to get you to understand. Recognize it and stay away from it. So there could be people in the church that get removed from the church. You're supposed to separate from those people. That's an easy one. You'll see that. You'll see the mechanics of that happening. You don't have to do anything because you'll see that happen. You'll see that happen. Recognize it. But look, it's a little bit more complicated when you look at somebody who's backslidden. So you kind of have to be checking yourself here. You kind of have to be checking yourself. Look, is this, for some reason, I'm just not feeling positive about church anymore. I'm not just, you know, I don't want to go. I don't want to go soul-winning anymore. I don't want to do this thing. You know, recognize if there's somebody that's causing that. That's causing you to stumble and stay away from it is what the Bible is saying. So we see, folks, that there you have it. There is some believers. There is some times where you will need to separate from believers. So there you have it, folks. We need to withdraw from all fellowship with unbelievers. We need to stay away from all believers that are in sin, that are walking disorderly. Let's form a commune and move to Idaho, or North Dakota, or whatever. You know, except this, actually. Turn to John chapter 17. Oh, Pastor warned you about this. Here it is. I should have waited a couple more months before I dropped this one on you. No, no, no, no, no, no. Except this, okay? Except this. Except this. Look at John chapter 17. I have to just, I've just got to like, I mean, I can't hang around anybody but these people that are right here right now. Except this. Look at John 17 and verse 14. Look at what Jesus says, I've given them thy word and the world hath hated them because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou should take them out of the world, but that thou should keep them from evil. Jesus is praying here, okay?  Look, hey, that's us, okay? He's talking about his disciples, his ambassadors that he's armed with his word.  Says, don't take them out of the world, but, but this, but that thou should keep them from evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth, thy word is truth. And as thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes, I will sanctify myself that they may also be sanctified through the truth. So verse number 15 here is the reason for this separation doctrine. Okay, you wonder, what's the reason for all these, all these, these two sermons that I just preached? What's the reason? The reason is verse number 15. It's to keep us from evil, because we're going to be in the world. But we want to be kept from evil, kept from harm, okay? The easiest, look, the easiest solution to be kept from the harm of the world would be to just completely withdraw from the world. And look, some, you know, some people do. I remember growing up and around my wife's, my wife's ranch that she grew up in a couple miles away. There's a big commune of this just religious sect. I don't even know what they believe, but I'm sure it's not the right thing, but they just withdrew from the world. And it's these 20 houses or whatever, and these people all just live out in the middle. Look, people do this. I was joking about it. People do it. There's all these little communes all over North Dakota. There's a lot of them. But the problem is what Jesus says is that we're supposed to be in the world. And verse 18 we've been actually sent into the world. We've actually been sent, look, these lessons on separation in fellowship is their pragmatic instructions on how to keep us from evil while we are in it, while we're in the world. Doing what? Well, preaching the gospel. Getting other people saved. How are people going to get saved if the people, the only people that know the gospel are living on a mountain in Idaho? Or, you know, in a field in North Dakota? How's that going to work? That's not how it's supposed to work. Men, you have to go out and work in the world. But we have to go out and work with unbelievers. But that doesn't mean that we fellowship with them, that we're hanging out with them, all this. But now, just to put a bow, so we're not supposed to withdraw from the world. Okay, so there's this separation from believers and there's separation from unbelievers, but I have to be in the world, you're like how's this work? Well, I'm going to explain it to you. I'm going to explain the mechanics of it. I'm going to explain how it looks. Okay, so first thing, I want to give you two points on how the mechanics of separation should work in your life. Okay, the first thing is this. It's tied separation and your separation from unbelievers and then, you know, in certain cases, believers, it's tied to your maturity. It's tied to your Christian growth.  You know, I mean, it's tied to growth because first, once somebody gets saved and once somebody gets in church, look, there's opportunity there. There's opportunity to preach the gospel to the people that they know. There's opportunity to be an influence to them. There's opportunity, but what you'll find in Luke chapter 9, I'll just read it for you in verse number 62. This was from the first sermon in Luke chapter 9 verse 62, Jesus said unto him, having put his hand to the plow and looking back is fit for the kingdom of God. He's like, if you want to, what you'll find and this is why Jesus said this, if you want to put your hand to the plow, if you want to put the hand, your hand to the plow in this Christian life, you want to grow and you want to mature, separation is going to be necessary. That is what you're going to find because one can't happen without the other. And you can think that you're going to make it happen and you can think that you can have one foot here and one foot there, but look, Jesus is telling you and I'm telling you that it's not going to work. You can't plow and look back at the same time. You can't do it. Meaning, you can't grow unless this separation at least begins to happen in your life and those steps need to be taken. Look, you're going to keep up, you're going to keep up all those, here's what's going to happen. You're going to keep up all those stages you're probably all going to go through. You're like, you know what I got saved, I'm in church, I preached the gospel to some people, some got saved, some didn't. I'm just going to keep up all these worldly relationships and then what it's going to do is it's going to stall out your growth. That's what will happen. This is why you see so many mature Christians and they all have the same stories. They all have the same stories of separation because they got to be mature Christians because they went through that separation process. I mean, look, they've had those uncomfortable conversations. They've preached the gospel and had people not accept the gospel. Then they were like, okay, okay, we're going to still go to this stuff but we're going to separate from the sin of it. They've gone through that step. We're going to go to the Thanksgiving thing and the wedding but we're just not going to keep the people, we're going to leave the sin. That's what we're going to do. We'll go to the wedding but we're not going to drink and then, you know, I mean, we're just going to leave before everyone's drunk at that event or whatever. Look, they've all gone through all these things. They've compromised their standards just to keep the peace in certain relationships. Finally realizing, as I said last week, you know, what's the point of this? There's no fellowship here anyway. What's the point of this? And then, step two is they decide, you know, I'm going to put my hand back to the plow. But that whole time where they were like doing this one foot in and all this is wasted time, they did not grow. They did not grow. So then they decide, you know what? First of all, the cycle I just mentioned to you years can be spent in that cycle. Years of people's lives can be spent in that cycle.  They just put the hand back to the plow and they just get moving in their Christian life. But the fact is this, folks, and the reason I said it's tied to maturity, it's directly proportional to maturity, is that the better at this that you can do, the better you become at this separation that we talked about last week and this week, the more you will grow and the faster you will grow. The more, look, the more you will plow in your Christian life. Think about that. Think about that.  They would be like, are you kidding? I mean, if I told them about the separation, about the moves, I mean, it would sound extreme to somebody like that. I know it would. But for mature Christians, it's just another story. It's just another of the same story, is all it is.  They're not going to allow anything to get in the way of their growth. And that is somebody who is going to be extremely productive in their Christian life. So look, it's a, I mean, are you following me here? It's a little bit of a chicken in an egg situation. I mean, growth in your Christian life will spur separation as a natural process. Okay? But look, I mean, from this unsaved and from the saved. So growth will spur that separation. But without that separation, the growth will stall. It will stop. As you hold on to those things, as you can't do what you know you're supposed to do. Because look, what will happen is you'll gain the knowledge. You'll gain the knowledge and you'll know what you're supposed to do. And then you just won't do it. You'll just hold on to those things. You'll just hold on to those relationships.  That's what will happen. It's just, it's tied, it will stall you out. Look, and if you get back slidding, it could cause chastisement. You can't plow looking backwards. Jesus knew what He was talking about. Imagine that. So look, the reality of it is this, folks. The reality of it is this. You get saved and then there's this honeymoon period. That's what I call it. There's this honeymoon period where all we got saved. I'm going to tell everybody that I know this is the greatest thing ever. I mean, we all had that feeling, this is the best thing ever.  Anybody could have it.  You probably mess it up a few times. You probably wish that you would have been a little more mature before you tried to lay the Gospel on people in a lot of situations.  And then you realize that, okay, most people aren't really accepting this for some weird reason. I don't know why. Most people aren't accepting it. Then you're like, okay, but we're separating from all this sin. We're not doing this stuff in our house anymore. You go through the sin separation period and then you know what? You're going to end up with, here's what's funny. You go through the sin separation period and then, you know, a lot of people will separate from you. You might not have to separate from everybody you thought you were going to have to because as soon as people realize that you're not into everything that they're into anymore, you're not going to just validate all their sin. They're going to feel like you're judging them or whatever. I just don't want to do that. You think you're better than everybody? Then you're like, okay, well, what's the point of this fellowship? Then it just becomes silly because a lot of times you realize with these people that it's really about the influence people thought that they had over you. Then when people realize that they don't have that influence over you or your kids anymore, they don't want fellowship. Once they realize that, they'll separate from you. You might not have to do anything. The last thing I want to say is this. The last thing I want to say is this. Everybody's going to go through these same cycles. It's all tied to how fast you want to grow. The last thing I want to say to you is this. It's complicated. I have to see it here. I have to write two sermons like this with a church full of people. Some people are baby Christians. Some people are teenage Christians. Some people are mature Christians. How do you write a sermon and apply it to people that are at all different stages of growth in their Christian life? It's difficult to do. I want to just say, look, every case is different. Ask advice about this. If you have specific cases, you should pull me aside. You should ask advice to my wife and you should say, what do you think about this situation? I have a lot of experience in this area actually. But ask advice about it because in most cases are very easy. Most cases are very easy to discern, but feel free please to ask advice about it because you're all at different stages of your Christian life. But these principles here folks, they apply to everyone.  So I encourage you to ask questions if you have questions. But generally let me say it again. As you grow and mature, you will separate. It will happen. If you do not separate, you will not grow and mature. That's it. That's the crux of it. And to me, look, to me, especially to me, maybe I got saved in my 30s, other people that got saved later in life, I don't know about you, but in my perspective, we don't have much time here. That's kind of where I'm at in my life. I don't feel like I have much time here. I waste it a lot of time. And I want to get moving as fast as possible. I don't want to waste time. I don't want to waste time in my Christian life.  Because in cases where I drag my feet where I shouldn't have, I knew what the right thing to do was. I knew it. I knew it as clear as the hand in front of me. I knew what to do. But it's just difficult to do sometimes. But look, I mean, there's not a lot of time to waste here. And that's my perspective. I'm trying to make the most of my little vapor on this earth. And many of you, like myself, maybe we feel like we have to make up for lost time. I wasted a lot of time in my life chasing the wrong things. I wasted a lot of time in my life not plowing for Jesus. So I'm figuring out what the Bible says, and I'm doing it.  That's why, you know, this church, as we go through this doctrinal series, it doesn't really matter where you came from the church, the way you did it before and all this kind of stuff. We're just going to do it this way. And I mean, by my last breath, we're going to do it this way.  You want to grow fast and you want to use the time that you have left on this earth, you know, the pour in the glass of water on the ground. That's your life. You want to use that as much as possible. Just do what you know you're supposed to do. Just make those decisions. Make those decisions if you, sin can keep you for years. Sin can grab you and take you away from the Christian life. A brother, a sister in Christ can pull you away from the Christian life and derail you for years. Seeing it happen. Just be careful. Do what you're supposed to do. And that is how you will use the most out of this Christian life. It's really up to you.  Ask questions in certain situations and I'll be happy to give you biblical advice on that. But I'm not for wasting time. Because we don't have a lot of it. We don't have a lot of it. Let's bow our heads and have a word of prayer.


What's good y'all should boros back again with another video so I had to talk about this one This this right here is the definition of someone that's for the streets Take that back take that back. She's not for the streets. She's for the pipes in the sewage Under the streets. You don't know who I'm talking about. I'm talking about this this woman here goes by Brittany Renner She has been the topic of discussion a few times this year She was recently dating in a relationship with a basketball player by PJ Washington now Here's the thing about this situation. I got to bring up some Information before we get to this clip right here basically PJ was you know pretty much I guess fell in love with Miss Brittany Renner here, and I'm sure a lot of people that know him a lot of people that may not have known him I'm sure someone has reached out to him and said something To the lines of yo, I don't think she's the one my guy. She's not the one coach You can you know have a good time with her, but I don't think you should be getting her pregnant. I don't even think you should be Cuffing her. She's not the one she's She's someone you definitely want to stay away from and the reason I'm sure people were saying this is because She's come out before prior to linking up with PJ Washington. She's come out before saying Like trapping basketball players and getting basketball players and football players and rappers is so easy because they're stupid She said those things She's all for trapping men with children now granted Of course, he didn't listen. He ends up getting a pregnant and Once she has the child She ends up breaking it off with him and a Lot of people were kind of I guess you could say Feeling sorry for him and then there was others that weren't feeling sorry for him But I think all of us most people can agree that She pretty much set him up was pretty much scouting him for a while to get get with him finesse him and now she's I don't know Getting child support off him and it's like in the six-figure range.  It's six figures per month. That's all I don't know the exact figures anything like that but basically she trapped PJ Washington and Now he has a child with her and she's getting a lot of money off of him and I Don't really have too much sympathy for him not because I don't want to have fellow sympathy for my fellow brother but it's like if You see the information And you know someone is on that type of time and they really out here to get get your money Why get them pregnant? Especially young young in your basketball career like why get them pregnant? You may have the funds for but why do that to yourself? But that's neither here nor there the reason why we're talking about her now is because she is she is truly deplorable She is truly deplorable. You see the title of the video Brittany ran her on the hunt for a step daddy to take care of her baby. That is sick Considering the fact that she's getting money off the dude Like well, that's she is she is she's the worst, bro We're gonna check this out man appreciate all the love and support roads to 60k and and let's see what this heathen has to say It's officially step daddy season Yeah, what I got the Car seat in the back. Let's go to the park Don't let your baby mama or your baby daddy block your blessings I know in theory it sounds good keeping the same person to have kids with But that's insanity as well. So if it doesn't work out with them, it'll work out with someone else Okay It just will that's how that goes and trust me.   I have exited rat race. I am not a threat I want you to be around for a long time not a good time. You can hold my son put him on your story I trust his judgment. I really do. I really really do. I swear. I swear I do now I'm not a threat, but you know, I can't speak for the other other other other hose that you don't know about You know, maybe I'll never be in your favor But I Am here for it. Okay, like people move on save the you should have got the ring first Wasn't gonna work out. Anyways, it just wasn't gonna work out Let's laugh together and let's raise this baby, you know In conclusion step daddy season big aura big lumber big follow-through need only apply I don't even know what to say to that like People like that man You just got to watch out for and I'm sorry that that happened to PJ But this is a lesson learned a life lesson.   You got to do your research Because I'm willing to bet No, there was somebody that was close to him that was telling him She is not the one and look at this Over here talking about step daddy season like bro, this is That's sad That's just sad.   That's it. Just care about money Like brothers. I couldn't see How guys could even find that attractive she she could be the prettiest woman in the world but talking like that moving like that that's not attractive to me and Trust me. There's gonna be a simple-minded man. That's gone I'm willing to bet. There's gonna be a simple-minded man. That's gonna Play the step daddy role.    That was I don't even have the proper words to Convey my other discuss. Like I said, she's not for the streets She is for the sewage the pipes under the streets, bro.  That's that's not what's up That's not what's up and any woman that agrees with that type of mentality. You're part of the problem, too Any guy that agrees with that type of mentality You're part of the problem, too I'm just simple as that but comment down below. Let me know where you guys were post because I was where you guys just as reposed as I was because I literally I I couldn't say anything This is just like yo She's truly vile That's not what's up Comment down below if you agree with me on my opinions here And uh appreciate all the love and support roll to 60k and fellas fellas fellas fellas fellas Just do your research before you lay in the bed with the woman, bro Just make sure you double and triple check This is someone that you're really Wotling to risk having sex with Or even potentially getting pregnant always strap up if you ain't ready to Deal with the consequences of potentially getting that person pregnant, but just just be careful fellas Be careful, man I love you guys