You know, I want him to realize how to see their dollars or do you? See, everybody will ride with them. See, everybody will always ride with somebody. That's one thing negative happening. They turn on, turn on Facebook. Everybody laughing at them. So I want them to understand. Or what the city of Dallas will do to you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. People ain't loyal. Yeah, we on boss talk. One on one. Yeah, we gonna talk. Hey, listen, the fight came on. I seen Big X, the plug come out. Man. But it was it was it was the music was a little bit off. You know what I'm saying?  You know what I'm saying? Everywhere else. That's hard. That's all.  You can't rehearse it though. You don't know if they can rehearse it. I mean, everything can be rehearsed. Eminem just showed up. No, no, he was smart. I like it. See, the thing is, is, and you gotta understand Dallas, you know what I'm saying? Sometime Dallas be thinking so. Be, they be like Dallas don't overthink for the world. They just think it's locally Dallas. Eminem was smart. I like how Crawford, Crawford intro was perfect and he came out with the net on. He came out and just stood there. I ain't never seen no box, he stood there. He stood at the entrance like a rapper. To walk Terrence Crawford to the ring and Crawford now makes his big entrance.  Crawford now makes his big entrance to this huge arena. You ever seen WWF when they just stand right there and look around, he stood there. Eminem stood there. Eminem said a word. He announced them, made his present film and said a word on the microphone because he knew the delay. He did, that's what I thought. Yeah, he said he was a vet. He said he's been doing this for a long time ago, so he heard it. Yeah, he heard it. But that is his advantage because he came after him. If he came first, he probably would have done the same thing Big S did. Yeah, but something. No, but most rappers, most rappers mess up. Most rappers that walk people out be be a delay. Really? Yeah. I be hearing it because I'm a music hit. But that was a huge, huge delay. It was. Huge delay. But it, like I say, everybody was excited for this fight. Yeah, yeah, nah. This fight was supposed to be one of the most spectacular fights that we ever seen. I feel like I was, when they were finna come at it, I feel like I was fighting. Me too. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie, I was all the way into it, bro. And I was sitting there on the little old chair watching, I know you was there. I'm sitting at my partner's place over there. And I'm watching on the big old tell, what is that we had the pro, the big old, the big thing that looked like a movie. Yeah, it's a big old big thing. I'm looking at it and them niggas big on there when they come out, big ex was big on there. Man, and then I say, man, I tripped cause early like some, like he wasn't all the way there. Like it, like his face was redder than me ever. Like, what's going on with this? Yo, here's a big fight. So you think it was nerves. Yeah, nah, I just, yeah, I think it was a big fight. Yeah. Gee, the first round, he was him. Spence. Yeah. No. You should go look at the, I don't look at that fight five times now. He was the first round, he was charging. The second round, he was still doing the thing. But go back and look at that second round and he said, I'm tired. He said that the second round, damn, I'm tired. After the second round? After the second round. After he got knocked out? No, no, no. It was before we got knocked out. No. Down goes Spence. Oh, quickly. Then that's the first round. The first round. Go back and look at the end when you're walking to the thing. He said, I'm tired. You gotta understand, you come from Texas heat and you come from losing, damn, their 30, 40 pounds. That's what I'm saying. How quickly did he lose that? Huh? How quickly did he lose that weight? I'm not sure. I don't know. I think they got they were trying to keep probably like three or four months. They, you know, they, they pros.  Cause that's what he was. You want to lose weight? Everybody listen. I need to lose it too. Yes. So at the end of the day, you lose all that weight. I need all that is nutrition. Yeah. You lose all that weight.  That's why you were tired.  I think it's the first round now that you said he got knocked out. Cause he hadn't got knocked down yet. Yeah. It was that, but didn't I see it? I said it during the fight. It was the end of the first round when he was walking. He said, I'm tired. No, not right now. We can't be tired. It's too early. But even for me, when he first walked out, he just didn't look like himself to me. He looked like something was wrong. It's a big fight. It's a big fight. And I'm going to be real. It was a lot of money on the line. Yeah. A lot of people bet. You know what I mean? A lot of money on the line. Some niggas was broke after that day. It was a bunch. But when I lose, he still get paid. Yeah, yeah. Oh, he got that bad. He about 30 million in. Yeah, so when I lose, he still get it. Oh, he good. And I think he going to fight again too. It's coming. It's coming. In December. Yeah. No, let me tell you this. In December.   Y'all used to be like buddies or something, were you? Look, I ain't never seen nobody. That was the first time ever getting beat up. You never seen nobody beat him.    See, everybody will ride with him. See, everybody will always ride with somebody that's one thing negative happening and they turn on him. I turn on Facebook, everybody laughing at him. So I want him to understand what the city of Dallas will do to you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. People ain't loyal. People ain't your partner. People will turn on you quick. I seen them. All of them. Yeah, and at the end of the day, I didn't tell at the end of the day that that's one solid nigga that I've seen when it comes down to fighting. He ain't lost one fight. I ain't never seen a run from a fight. None of that. You know what I'm saying? Cause he was around me. He's the whole, since we were kids, you know what I'm saying? So I know he about. How long was y'all? How old was he? I've been in the first minute. Oh, he was in second grade, third grade. I was in second and third grade again. I was like, I had to be like fourth. He was second. Okay. And y'all, you always seen him? Y'all was out? Yeah. You played him all the time. I'll tell you. Yeah. And you know, down there where we from, everybody had games at the same place on Saturday. You know, the whole community there. Wow. But you said Dallas turned on him though, but just like how you see the negative, you see a lot of love still. People, I've seen people say, don't worry about it. You gonna get him next time. Those are people that really, those are people that really care about it. Right. But you talking about, you know how, okay. You know how you have this much positive and you have this much negative. And you see it. I watched Powell Prince go on there and say this boy, the truth. And nobody from Dallas went over there and questioned him. The fuck? How you gonna say this boy is the truth? That he done went through 28 fights flawless. And they just turned it back on him. They just turned it back on him. Dallas didn't take a phone. Dallas don't say nothing. Man, that's what I said. So at the end of the day, I wanted him to see that. You know what I'm saying? You know, he's surrounded by people that's, you know, just, except for his family, but it's the people that just want to be in the line. You think he has a lot of fake friends around him? Man, if he was the people that started off with him at them fights, man, they would've seen him lose you. They'd be on their crown and ready to fight too. It was some people he had with him that he let go? Yeah. I don't know about that, but I'm just saying the people that started from the first fight. Yeah.  Cause they don't see anything that could come from nothing. Like a 360 turnaround. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, you know, you get away from the people, the limelight people and everything, you know? But, you know, it was sad to have the industry did him doing them and nobody from that had taken up one.


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He's in LA doing something. Shotez is in LA doing something. He's on the casting couch. No, he hasn't announced. Oh, he hasn't announced? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, all right. So we thought, guys, Shotez's working. He ain't even tell me what he was doing. He just said that he's gonna be gone for the next couple of weeks, right? Yeah. All right. So, like I said, Wax is here and Nyla Simone is here in YLA. Big Nyla! Yeah. What's up, Big Nyla? The little one. Yo, you give me the most grand introductions. You deserve it. Thank you. You know what I mean? And my guy, I ain't seen my guy since January 2020. I saw him at the, when we did the premiere for Bad Boys for Life movie. My man, Jack Thriller is here. What's up, man? I gotta give Jack his props. Man, I just found out some information about Jack Thriller. Nah, nah, nah, nah. I had to ask first if you know this is out there so I can talk about it, because I'm proud of you, man. Yeah. Man, I'm proud of you, man. I'm proud of you, man. You didn't see me either, man. Hey, yo, when I was getting divorced, Charlamagne was the first one texting me like, hey, man, I heard you getting divorced.   Because when I saw y'all, y'all used to look so happy together. You know what I mean? I just don't believe it. I just don't believe it. Just on Instagram. And you know, Duvall don't like to give nobody credit for nothing, right? Nothing. And he posted, he was like, man, when I see Jack and his fiance, it looked like the epitome of love. I just can't tell when I see love. One of the red times, Duvall was wrong. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. 900%, man. But now you would, man. Can I say it? Yeah, sure thing. He would leave from SWV. Oh, he fired. Oh, wow. I'm like, damn. I knew that for a little minute. Because you gotta, I salute my brothers because we came up loving them, man. Loving them. You know what I mean? There's certain women that throughout the 90s, you just love and Bleely was one of them. Bleely from SWV was absolutely one of them. Escort. Man. She still is. She's a beautiful person, man. Of course, absolutely.  I went on a fake date with her one time.   I remember that too. I remember that too. What's fake about it? It's reality TV. It's like, and it's like the way they edit it. I don't know what I was going to talk to Lele about. I was giving her like relationship advice almost, you know what I mean? But then the way it was kind of like cut up, it was like, oh, I got to crush on Charlemagne, whatever, whatever, something. I don't know, something like that could be gassing it up. I don't know if it was crushed. It was a while ago. So long. That should make me get engaged. It was on a horse. It's something. That made you get engaged. We ain't get on a horse. I think it was in the U.S., I think so, right? We got on a horse and carriage? This is like, how long is this? Now that should make me get engaged because I was like, I'm wilding, bro. I'm doing too much. Yeah. I'm doing too much. I'm disrespecting myself, I'm disrespecting my girl. Like, I was, it made me get engaged. I got engaged after that. Okay. Yeah, I got engaged after that and got married a couple years later. I was married when I met her. I was supposed to be going to go interview SWV at BB King, but I didn't want to do that. But I didn't want to go home to my wife either. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, you know what? I'm gonna go to the SWV. Jackie, make it sound so bad. Don't you know I'm engaged, right? Get out of here. Yeah, you told me that. I helped save your marriage. Come on, man. How you doing? I'll talk about that later. No, let's talk about it now. How you doing? No, no. I'm okay. I'm sorry for a day. Baby, I gotta let her do it. So I go to the SWV concert and whatnot and then, you know, I'm here and Lately tell these jokes in between her set. And I was like, damn, God, why am I with this bitch? I want her. Don't call her.  No, no, no, no, no. She put me out on Instagram and said I was a womanizer. She did? Yeah. No way. You didn't take it personal if she's hurt. Oh, I didn't hurt her when she was hurt, but now I'm hurting her. You know, now that I feel better. Send her healing energy. Yeah, I'm selling. It's the boomerang. You're right. Why do you say you shouldn't? What do you say? Because hurt people just say things because they're hurt, they don't really mean it. That's why you gotta like take a day. And if it's a marriage that's ended, she probably needs like a year or two before she's unbitter about the situation. But don't put it on the gram. Let's be unhappy and in private. Everybody got that outlet. Everybody got that outlet. Some people with social media, some people liquor, some people weed, some people fucking, like everybody got there. Thank God she wasn't on no pills and tried to kill herself. How old was she? Yeah. She's two years younger than me, so she will be 37 now. Yeah, see, I don't like stuff like that. I think that you should be, and I'm not knocking her, please, sister. I'm not knocking you. It's just like, I think you should be a little bit more emotionally intelligent to not put that type of stuff on social media. You know what I mean? That's a lot of people. You know? 100. Because sometimes there's no coming back from that. Sometimes there's no coming back. That's right.  And the situation that y'all might have sat down, talked to, went to therapy about and resolved, then got so big and inflammatory, it's like, Ron, you want to be a partner? Oh, my God.  But if we talk about it and we can be friends, then I can still help you with that. But if you put me in a position where I can't even be your friend no more, then I'm in situations like that same thing. Like, once you done burnt that bridge, it's like, it's over. Not now, Charlotte. I'm doing good. I got it strong. My bridge is strong like the table. I love my eye. So you went to BB King. You should be Lee Lee telling jokes. She was telling jokes in between. But if she was that sort of personality, you let her tell it and whatnot. She's funny.   And you know what I'm saying? Fast forward. That's it. This is back in 2007. I'm calling it a B-word. I apologize. This was the old me. This is 2017. That's right, that's right. Yeah. Fast forward. 2020 went with this year? Yeah. Yeah, I moved back to Atlanta in February. I invited her through a DM to my roast and whatnot at Uptown Comedy Club. And it was packed to capacity. And she showed up. Ooh. She showed up as my date. So you wore the right outfit that night. I had a suit on. I had came with a sweater. Ooh. Did you sing for her? You sung for her? I didn't sing. I didn't sing then. I didn't sing. But she came up with her brother's son with her. And when she just came, I was like, hey, listen, I deserve you. And she was just so bold. That was your opening line? That was my opening line. I deserve you. I don't really like it. I don't like it either. I like the title. I like the confidence that he's feeling. Yeah, yeah. But it does have a sense of entitlement to it. Yeah, I feel entitled. But, but, but, but. After all I done there for this country. I know all I did for him. Yeah, I deserved that. But it's a great opening line because you can't help with being intrigued when a man tells you that. I deserve you. It's going one or two ways. Hold on. Was his son there? Was his son there when you said that? And I was like, hey, he was trying to chime in.  I'm about to give you a stepdaddy. And then so anyway, like I was saying. How old was his son? 30. Oh. But I didn't know.   You know that, man. You know you're still dating his mama right now. Yeah, yeah, we over it now. Oh, but no, you don't see it.   Correct?  I don't know you, King. I'm just bullshitting. I don't know you. I'm just playing around. I'm playing around. Whatever happens, make sure you record it, young King. All right. All right.  And so how did she reply to that line? She was like, all right, let's go out on a date. And I was like, really? With me? No. And that's when the confidence went backwards and whatnot. And that was when you used a line that you didn't think was going to work.  That's my whole life. They didn't tell me what to do after it worked. They didn't tell you what to do after it. They didn't tell you what to say. I shot my shot. That's right. That's right. 100%. In a memorable way. In a memorable way. So when you tell the story later. 100%. You can tell it. And I got plenty of them. You know that. OK. I got plenty of the stories why I shot my shot. Ain't what not to know them. You know, nothing materialized. How many people that we know that are notable, you shot shots at? Angela Yee. OK.  I remember that. Yeah, yeah. And that was the same that I met my wife. Wow. That's my future. That's my future.  When you go do what the devil wants you to do. I had kept the devil first that day. But I mean there has to be light. MC Light. What you said MC Light?  I can't look at her. Bro, I'm telling you man. I'm a little intimidating off the rip.  I look crazy.  So what you say that was like. You need a rough neck? Got to have a rough neck? I told her that I would give up my good eye for her to have a split on my face. One day I would say something wild like would you remember how I was back in the day? Yeah, that was a different era. What year was it? What year this was? Yeah, this was like 12, 13 on the red carpet. 12, 13 years ago? Yeah, on 2013. Yeah, it was a different world back then. Yeah, just completely different.  And she busted out laughing about it. Told DJ D-Rick because me and DJ D-Rick was going to do my show called 16 of Better. And then we was going to do it in New York. And I know on the West Coast.  It's like the BET cipher, but except it's every week.  Yo, people like Young and May started out on there. Benny the Butcher, all kinds of MCs. I never saw that. Yeah, I be posting it up all the time. But I'm glad you had said that because I do need to drop them off. I got you. Okay cool. So MC like who else? Marsha Ambrose. Oh, I love Marsha. Float you one of my favorite groups of all time. I love Float you, but I love Marsha as a solo artist too. Yeah.   What'd you say to her? I said all you got to do is say yes. Yeah. She definitely said no. She said no? Off the rim, immediately. And oh, period. I checked the Beyonce before. You're lying. Yup, I gave my business card and everything. What year was that? What year was this? This is like old three. So she was a destiny. No, she was a solo artist by old three. Yeah. She was a solo artist and whatnot. She never called me. I met her at Visions. And she took your card? She took my card. She was in Atlanta at Visions? She was in Atlanta at Visions. Doing what? Just like a walkthrough. Probably family. Yeah, yeah, but she still was her. But Jack tells the truth. Well listen, have I ever told you how nice of a person Beyonce is? She's amazing. She would never diss you. You know what I mean? Now she didn't diss me at all. She'll walk in the room, say hi to everybody. You know what I mean? What was your... Did you have a line for her? I just said, hey, call me sometime. And handed her a business card.  I'm definitely going to call you. You're lying. I promise you. She said that. Jay-Z going to call you. She said that. She never called me. I think she lost my card. And the next thing you know, she's married to Jay-Z. Can you believe that? Yes. Yes, we all can believe that. But the deal will be busy, man. Anybody else? Man, you name them. I don't probably holler at them. Goddamn. You name... Amanda Seals all kind of...  Amanda and me used to go back and forth all the time and whatnot. She never took me seriously at all. I can see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not to you because of Amanda. I know who... 100%. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you went after L'Oreal or your number? L'Oreal, yeah, that happened. I even gave L'Oreal... Put L'Oreal on my show.  Trying to hit that. Hold on. You tried to make L'Oreal a co-host of your podcast? Yeah, I did. Boy, you toxic.  What happened with this? This was back in 2017, 18... Yeah, that's to know. That's to wait in the game. Yeah, yeah. You're both going to turn the tide by then, Jack. Man, if I didn't know what she was going to blow up like this, I would have treated her nicer. Oh! I would have... Uh-uh. L'Oreal! I would have been more nice to you.  I can't wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait. No, that's...  I can't believe this. She told me that. She told me great. She told people that. How would she know that? She just said it.  That's very interesting. Yeah. L'Oreal talented, though. You know what I'm saying? Super talented. Like, L'Oreal's doing exactly what we would expect her to be doing. She blew up. Making money off words. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's all right. She used to rap. You know what I mean? I've been around L'Oreal. L'Oreal got crazy personality. She don't bite her motherfucking tongue. She's crazy. She's aggressive. You're very... You don't care who. You don't have to me. Mm-hmm. That was hilarious. Y'all ain't got into it, right? Yep. First 10 seconds. That was your fault. That was your fault. That was your fault.  We was playing around. I was not playing. Yeah, Wax was playing. You asking people about a jersey dress for a guy. Yes, but I was asking L'Oreal opinion because we was talking to somebody's manager and I was asking L'Oreal's opinion. I said, L'Oreal, what do you think when you think of such and such person? And L'Oreal was like, I think that he's homosexual. Mm-hmm. And so I was giving this person some advice to management. And I was like, I think it would be really dope because he's a ball player if y'all came out with a line of jersey dresses. I wasn't even joking.  That was cool. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. And so, Wax goes to L'Oreal and tells L'Oreal... I was right there. ...to let her talk about you like that? No. Because the girl said, pitch out of here. She did not do that. You know what I'm saying? She did. She was like, she did not do that. She did not do that. She was standing right there. That never happened. Mm-hmm. That never happened.  L'Oreal came back walking like this.  And I'm sitting there like, yo, L'Oreal, what's up? Yo, what's going on here? Like, what's happening? And I'm like, yo, come on, L'Oreal, let's go over here. I'm like, apologies to you or whatever. And then Wax gonna get in the car and talk about he was playing. No, you told me it's a... Y'all made it plays in so much. I told Wax to tell her he was playing. Because she was wild.  I don't know if they're gonna see each other again. No, no, no, no. It was after that. L'Oreal was going crazy, making you turns all crazy. Like, we was wild and skinny down the line.  Wax, tell her you're playing, man. No, no, no. Tell her you're playing, man.   I'm over here like... I was a wild knight. You was about to fight Buster. That was the same night? Same night. It all happened that same night, the same party. No, she kicked us out. She's still a wax.  But why are you all about to fight Buster? We was not about to fight Buster. Buster approached me and we was drunk. I was drunk. And I said something to Buster. He's an icon. I said something crazy. All day.   Yeah, it was the first Deontay Wild to fight. What happened? I was hosting a fashion show and I ain't know Buster Rhymes was in front of me and what not while I was behind him.   Oh, sorry.  So fast forward like a month later. Buster's gonna balk on you, too. He ain't got to worry about that. He ain't say nothing there. I thought it was cool. I posted it up because somebody called it and I put it on my Instagram and what not. And I seen a minute this after party for the Deontay Wild to fight and I'm walking around the corner and this nigga grabs me and pulls me up against the wall.   You lucky I think you cool. And I said, Buster, you know I was just playing with you. You know, we've been friends for like a year now. You never talked to me like, I was just... Oh, so you knew him prior to making a joke? Okay, okay, okay.  Like, oh, okay. So now you just tell everybody on the pocket? Yeah. He bought me a shot of fantasy. A shot of fantasy? A shot. A hint of fantasy. Yeah, yeah. We chose it up. This was three years ago. We super cool now. Oh, that was three years ago. Yeah, yeah, three, about 17, 2017. I ain't got a number of reasons. Right after my divorce and everything. Yeah, you should reason.  At least. You know what I mean? Yeah. I got nothing but respect for Buster.  I ain't even got to worry about that. That raw, raw, like a dungeon dragon. He's coming to see you. It's real. He's coming to see you.  He did the same thing. He walked in. He went to my man, boo, slew the boo. He was like, he was like, nah, I think you, y'all might need to talk.  Right, right. That's what it was. He was like, let me talk to you for a second. But then it turned into the rah, rah.  That's how you're feeling too, though. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because you expect certain things from certain people. You expect Beanie Siegel to balk on you. If you said something wild about Beanie. When Fredro did that to me back in the day, that's onyx. That's slang. Throwing guns in there. I expect something like that.  You know what I mean? I expect that. Certain things you expect. I appreciate that, too. You know what I mean? It's the ones you don't expect that you'd be like, oh. That's how I felt about that. I never heard Two Chainz that already. I've never heard him talking to nobody like that. What was he mad or so mad about? It was an interview that we did a long time ago. Right when we were right around him, came out and what not. I was like, what's the difference between Two Chainz then and Titty Boyd now? And he was like, I joined the Illuminati and what not. And I was like, we both bust out laughing about it and what not.  Oh lord. And so I'm this is 50. I'm this is 50. So I'm not Jack Thriller no more. I'm this is 50. The nigga from this is 50.  Oh lord have mercy. Yeah.  It didn't even mean it. I didn't mean it. I was just. It just sound like the right thing to say because it was too many people around.  And I was like, yeah, I am with G-Unit and da da da da. Yeah. See we don't talk about stuff like that enough. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. What do you mean break that down? Tupac was hard for real. I'm gonna break that down. What's the Tupac? I don't know. I wasn't even alive then but from the stories I've like heard and from things I've seen Tupac got with death row but he wasn't really on that game banging time. Nah he was on that tablet time because remember he shot two cops. He shot the police but he wasn't stumping out people in casinos. Nah. I thought he was doing that. Tupac was doing that. He put hands on the Hughes brothers. 100%. Now the death row probably escalated. It escalated. Yeah back up then. Yes. But he was way before Poc. 100%. But you said something so true about when people are around man. Yeah. I'm telling you that's why the things that you should be afraid of is when a person pulls you to the side when it's just you and them when there ain't nobody around then and you just this person see you like me hollers you for a second. That's when you might be scared. 100%. And it wasn't that I was scared or anything. I just forgot I was a comic. I'm a comedian with one eye. Yeah. I can't afford for a nigga to take this one out. Yeah.  I don't need that. Did you apologize to 2 Chainz over there? I apologized several times. You know what I'm saying?   He's gonna get on with it. He'll be right now.   Man. It was too much. It was too much. And then on top of that I couldn't be as upset as he was and with that much energy to fight. You don't want to fight a nigga and you not mad. Yeah.  That's right. And especially when you know you're wrong. Yeah you're wrong. That's the problem. I was so I was so immature. You know what I'm saying? I was just on a different type of time and I didn't think it would go that far. I thought I was just gonna catch the easy devil.  I was doing too much.  Then what? Now you got it. Now you really want to entertain?  It's funny.  Shit. I got punched on camera. I got punched on camera and I had to fight. It happens.  Oh I forgot about that. Yeah. I thought it would be a fight club fighter. Not a celebrity man. I forgot about that.  Let me show you how good I can fight. And I fight good for a good 30 seconds. 30 seconds. And that's how you got it. That's how you got it. Mother three rounds. Did he knock you out? No he knocked me out. I gave up. I remember he knocked you down. No he, I fell down. I kept on falling. I kept on falling. I wasn't, I didn't, I had a, I trained for two hours. I was tired. I had, I had ate a slice of meat. I came one night for you. You gave me a call. I was like, I don't do this but I got you man. He had to come beat my back up one night. What happened? When we was a, I went to this place where Jarul was going to be. And it was a, it was a reality show that was shooting growing up hip hop.  Yeah? Yeah, they were spending a set of me up. Why man? What happened? I'm a man because it was 50 cents. What you mean? Oh, just because you want this is 50. Just because that's it.  What year was this?  They wanted Jack, man.  The man's woman's is on clearance, man. I think that might have been in your head, bro. No, no, no. They came. It was in his head, too. What happened? They came. I was like, this is my cousin. It was like, damn. All right. What's up, man? Who was it? It was them. It was them. It was Jarul. It was the people on TV. It was definitely the ones on TV. Listen, there was somebody else there.   That's what you mean by me?  Listen. Listen.  I'm like, nah. Come on. I ain't doing him like that. It's my cousin, man.  Damn, brother. They're about to do you dirty. Anyway, they said there's no healing energy to nobody. Did you tell 50 that? No. I wasn't even wanted them to know I was even that. I was like, what was the secret? Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Jack, by the honey. You're the artist of the day. 50 Black Ljackets, what? Yeah, what? Why was you there?  Lord have mercy. Let's take a break for a second, man. And then we'll come back and do some of the trending topics of the week. Blue chew, slew the blue chew, man. Fall is here, and we could all use a stiff breeze. That's right. This episode is sponsored by Blue Chew. Guys, confidence can take you far in life. It can also help in the bedroom, especially when it comes time to step up to the plate, all right? 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It's like, let me get on social media and ride people up a little bit. Me and Lil Boosie got a song coming. You know what I mean? Hi, everybody talks about it, whatever, whatever. And Boosie came back and entertained his crowd the way he entertains his crowd. So I don't think it's really a thing there. No, not at all. If he came here. If he came here. We're gonna be in the same place. Even if they was, like I see him with flame, I don't think he have a problem with him. Even Lil Nas X came that day. I don't think he would have a problem with him. Yeah, I think the problem is with the rhetoric though. You know what I'm saying? Like you should never tell somebody to kill themselves. With the ending circumstances. That's how he talked though. Yeah, but he didn't, you know. He's not out of character. He's not out of, you're right, you're right. You're absolutely right. You know what? You're absolutely right. I can't expect from Lil Boosie what I would expect from myself. But I can tell the masses that are listening. That's not ever what you tell somebody. You know what I mean? You used to say that, Charlemagne a lot. We all did, but it was slang more so than anything. Yeah, but Charlemagne- That's probably what he's saying too. Your life is going inside of a whole another direction. Very thank God. That Bootsie's is not going in. He's going down as a ghetto legend. You fixing to turn into the male Oprah. But you know what it is?  You speak differently. You know what I mean? So it's like for me, I would never tell anybody, I would never tell anybody to do anything that I wouldn't want done to me or I would want my loved one to experience.  I think you have. I think it's definitely some killings of the days. Some people need to though. I don't know about it. I'm with him on that one. What's this? What you mean? Some people need to kill. I mean, I don't know.  You know what I mean? No, that's different. I mean, that's what we're talking about. I hope you don't see a guy down the street.  Like I hope that's not what it is.  Before you talk to the kid, do something to the kid. Go do something to yourself, man. Get out the way, bro. I'm not wishing it on you, but if I had to think of a scenario, if you, before you take out 10 to 15 random people, just take the hurt out on yourself. 100%. You know what I mean? That's that, but just that, just, you know. Yeah, cause you don't like the way somebody's doing. Cause your sexuality, no, that's wack. That people will not let you evolve. Over here, like, I would never say that. You like that, but you used to. I don't know if I did or not. That's the point. You cause you're not that guy anymore. You don't even look like him.   I don't think I ever did nothing that harsh though. Oh, you went hard in the paint.  You remember that? Yeah, we did plenty of this. Duvall, I think Duvall started that. Yeah, it's 100%.  You gotta be yourself.  Yeah, a song.  But it wasn't literal suicide. That's what people don't understand about culture, right? They don't understand about slang.  You know what I mean? 100%.  That's not as well, man. No, it did not. And this generation takes everything so literal. That's the problem. That's right. They don't know what's real from entertainment. But you know what?  You're kind of the problem with that, too. Break it down. Let's talk about it. I like these conversations. When you had to help the whole mental illness movement go on, now it's a label on crazy. Back in the day, people just used to be crazy. You know what I'm saying?   And you gotta leave him alone. So I didn't start that. You gotta leave him alone. Even in the house, even like people, girlfriends and stuff like that, they're like, oh, I'm having a breakdown or you gotta leave me alone right now.  But think about it.  But no, the lawyer would say, hey, he's dealing with some mental health issues. He gotta have a psychological evaluation. But it wasn't enough. That was just him doing that. It wasn't like a polarizing thing where it was everywhere. Everybody blaming everything on mental illness. It's probably the thing though. It probably is. No, it not probably it is. Yeah, no, it definitely is. It definitely is.   No, that's not true.    That's not true. That's not true. But listen, y'all don't have to walk it off. Y'all can deal with it. I do understand, but the end up part though. But there's a thin line between it. There's a thin line. It's a very thin line. We gotta go through the consequence. Take advantage. People do gotta take accountability of their acts, but then on the other side, I think emotionally people don't get treated for it. We're talking about two different things, right? Like for example, Sleuth the OG Snoop Dogg, the icon living Snoop on Breakfast Club this morning and clearly grieving the passing of his mother, right? And Sleuth says, he makes a comedy. He just was like, I just gotta be strong. You know what I'm saying? Even though I'm going through it, I can't be weak. I can't cry. There's nothing weak about grieving. There's nothing weak about crying. That's your mom, you know what I mean? If it's anybody that you love, there's nothing weak about that. So when we tell people to man up, all we're telling them to do is suppress their emotions. That's not good. There's certain things though, you gotta man up. You know you did something wrong, you don't, oh, I got anxiety.  It depends what it is though. Because, and don't get me wrong, I think we're saying man up, but that's not the right term because you're gonna have to deal with the consequences of your actions regardless of you man up or not, you know what I'm saying?      But what do you do with time versus action?  They're gonna put you somewhere else.  No they're not.  That's the mental institution. Well, guess what?  They're still gonna send you to jail. They're just gonna give you therapy in jail. You're just gonna be seeing a psychiatrist in jail. No, I don't know.    Yeah. Try not to go to prison. Why would you play around like that? Charlemagne, what's the line? When are we going to, for when can you not blame it on mental illness? I think that being that we have a better understanding of it now and people have the language now and they know what they're dealing with, I think you're gonna see a lot more of it simply because people feel comfortable talking about it and everything got a root cause. We're acting like people just do things. Nobody just does things. I can look at somebody and tell, oh yeah, that person dealing with something. You know what I mean? When they say, be nice to everybody you meet cause you don't know what somebody's going through. Like it's a reason you might bump into one person and that person be like, oh, yo, you good? You might bump into somebody and that person say to you, oh, yo, you good, yo? And you be like, oh, yeah, excuse me, keep it moving.   Cause this person has been, he or she is dealing with something internally that we have no idea about.  So what about cheating though?  You have that. No, that is true.   Pops look at me like I'm soft or something. Everybody do. Cause I got one girl. You know what I mean? So now, because men have egos, we gotta feed all egos by running around sleeping with a bunch of different women.  You know what I'm saying? You need some different from each one of them that you're not getting at the house.  That's funny though. Sit again? Yes, STD. You can have a nigga that got money. You can have a nigga for emotional support. But you can get what you need them come inside of you. No, I'm not.  That's what I'm just trying to say. Nah, let's stop lying. You know, good to up. No, no, no, no, you're right about that. But I'm talking about when you say you don't have to sleep with these men. Maybe you don't, but you know these men have the expectation. Oh, no, they do. That's right to lie. You play with them like. Don't play with them. Don't play with them like that. Don't take my money. Don't make me pay your tuition. No, no, no. Don't offer it, like, you're not entitled to anything if you offer something. Nah, like, what you just say so it can be some balance. Cause I think that's a form of mental illness also when you're dating motherfuckers, you don't like. Yes, you should have. You're trying to get something out of her.  Hanging out for a meal. Hanging out for a meal? No, you're right. No, he's not right. No, you're not right. You're taking advantage of a person. You're definitely taking advantage of cause you know you don't like this man. Oh, but you guys don't do that with women?  Y'all don't put some women and give them expectations that I possibly might date you or, you know, we're gonna be together eventually. Y'all don't do that. Y'all don't do that. You don't have to stop and give him the high. You know what I'm saying? It's gonna be on him. No, no, no. When you get more out of it, you get way more out of it. Y'all think it's changed like the seasons. You're right. Y'all think it's changed like the seasons. Y'all think it's changed like the seasons. No, no, no. Nila's wrong because I'ma change them. If you go ahead and you, if you listen to the guy that you really want and whatnot, the cream rises to the top. If you the last woman standing, you're gonna be all right. But if you keep on going to get it back. Yeah, but what the fuck? You want me to? This is not no competition.   No, no, no, no. Don't let whoever come last. Yeah, this is a topic. This is competition. No, no, no. This is going to be later. Why I'ma be with you when we never went through nothing together? No, no, no, because y'all, y'all are great. Y'all and Kings, right?   Y'all and Kings, but y'all are not the prize. Like the woman is the prize. Yeah, she's the next. She holds it up, the next one holds it up. So the fact that you guys are like, the cream rises to the top, whoever. Last, like, no nigga, I'm not about to be competing and waiting in this and that. It's either you're gonna come ready and wanting me or you're not.    See, but here's the thing, that's the problem. I don't think that it should be a competition. I think that it should be two people who come together. It's like soil and seed. Right. You know what I mean? It should be soil and seed. Soil and seed come together to make something amazing, something amazing grows from it and it bears fruit. They're equal. By the way, that's what it really is. But is it such thing of a bad seed though and bad fruit? Well, pick better fruit. Pick better fruit. That's what we're trying to tell you.  You have the right to say that. Cause I used to be one of them. So I do have the right. Cause I want the drunk guy talking to me. You know why wax don't have the right? Tell me why you don't have the right.  No. So you don't have the right to talk about you out here just sleeping with any old body doing X, Y, and Z. Nobody look like Jack. What? Somebody look like Jack, yo.  You forgot. No, that's right. No, that's right. Come on, sit in that healer image over here. Sit in that healer image over here. I'm just staying true though. Where? All I'm saying is you done slept with some women that you probably regret sleeping with just from a physical standpoint. Bro, understand that. So you can't judge another, you can't judge a girl and say you out here doing X, Y, and Z with this person? Oh, listen. All I'm saying is we gotta stop judging each other and if you go to be with a woman. Y'all been judging me though. If you go to be with a man.  Come together on an equal plane. Like why can't y'all be here? I just don't know where to have five seeds in her dirt. Yeah. What about you putting your seed in five different dirt? Right.  I'll be that. Okay.   By the way, I just don't like that you keep pointing at me with it. Like I am not dealing with nobody right now. I am. Jack, you always get me in trouble for, I can't even be Jack friends sometimes.  Cause Jack, Instagram goes crazy. So my girl's like, oh, this is your friend? This is, I'm like, I don't know what Jack doing. She tried to come in between us. But that's true though.  By the way, you gotta be around friends that are on the same vibe. When we roommates and everything in him, she said I could move in with him. She said Jack moved in, Jack moved in over. That would have been a lot. That would have been a lot. That would have been a lot. She said this is who you are.  I feel like I got to meet you sometimes, man. Just be a lot of my timeline. Word! How does Lili feel about that, Jack?  There you go. Mom, but that's what happened with you. When you meet a woman, that's what happens. When you meet somebody that make you want to be, that's what I'm talking about.  Bro, I told you no. I was like, I can't do it.  Like, when you find somebody, you should. You gotta tell her nigga that day he about to move, though.  She told me no. I thought she was going to change her mind. She said no. Nigga, I ain't having a way to go. Where was y'all going to live together? Carla lived in the house, man. Oh. Carla lived in the house. I was going to bring all the hoes in. Why are you designed to live in there? You wasn't even living in there. Why you let Jack stay there by yourself? I was, but she still took me to the home. You were not living in there. I was, I was just moving around, but just Jack getting the key with all them hoes. She knew it was going to be there. I don't think she do it.  Yeah, that's a lot. I didn't know you felt that way. I told you. I think y'all are all too old for this, man. Yeah, we definitely are. I'm not lying to you. It's always done. It's definitely done. Like, let it go. Like, it's good to be with one woman, man. Like, it's good to be with one woman for all your energy and the one woman and build an empire, man. Oh, for sure. You know what I'm saying? That's what we had now. I told you to post like that the other day. What was it? About it was like Mark Zuckerberg with his Chinese lady. And they said one of the secrets to his success is because he focused on one woman. That's right. That's right. And that's how I became a billionaire. I thought I was successful eight years ago. No, when I devoted all my energy to my wife and stopped running around in these streets and started going to therapy and all that other stuff.  I just think it's really just a trifling notice to cheat with kids.  I've never understood it. That's the part that always made me feel bad. That's like playing the two on two bags of all. I mean, it's a cheat in general. I don't see the difference. No, I don't see the difference. It's cheating in general. It don't even got nothing to do with the kid. It's not a real partnership. It's true. No, it makes it worse. I get what you're saying, it does. It does. Go ahead, go ahead, man. Cheating in general is wrong. And then you have a kid who's just even more wrong. Especially when you know, like, if you live with your family and you got your kids at home, you know, especially when you got young kids, young kids wake up in the middle of the night. You know what I mean? And it's nothing more fulfilling than being the person that can go in the room and see what's going on, blah, blah, blah. But if you just laid up with another chick, you know what I mean? Oh my God. How would you feel knowing that she had the house with the kid? I can't go.  Oh, man. Good, I'm glad y'all feel guilty. Because I was laying next to this girl and her kids was calling and then her husband and all that. And I was like, why are you doing this? Her husband? Yeah. Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? I had a lot of so much respect. Yeah, I lose respect for him, too. I hate it. Like, any girl who cheat with me and he got a man, I can't stand you. I really don't like it. Hey, that's a good point, man. So why are you doing that? That's disgusting. For no reason. Yeah, just toxic. I'm glad y'all said that because I be trying to tell women that there's no get back. You know what I mean?  That dude, it's no get back. That dude looking at you like you just a straight, dashing. Yeah, now, now, now. That's why I'm trying to tell women. Now you took me off the hook. No, wait, but what way is the get back then? There should be no get back. Being a good woman and making me feel the pain that I did you wrong. Why you want to see me fall? That's the pain. No, I don't want to see you fall. I just want to see you feel it. I'm saying that's feeling me over the night. He'll feel it in the future. Yes. He'll feel it in the future when you continue to be successful. Yes. When you continue to be successful and he got to see you everywhere and you look fly, you ain't out here looking wet.  You told me the other day somebody tried to get a hug. This is true. You know what I mean? This is true. And try to get a hug. How you felt after that? How did you feel? I was disgusted when I ran. I'm like, oh my God. She gave him the husband. You know what I mean? I guarantee you that hurts him. You know what I mean? So it's like that's all. You get the get back. And by the way, it should be like that. So we have to wait years for the get back. It don't matter. No, you don't get back. You don't get back. You get even. Getting even means not revenge. It's like getting on people's level and just doing better. There's no such thing. But that's why it's kind of unfair to women because it's like you guys can literally go out, do something and it hurts us instantly. So you think getting another meat is going to help? I didn't say that that was the key to doing. I was asking him, like, what is the level? What's the making it even? Like, what's the eye for eye in that? You shouldn't be trying to do an eye for eye. No way. No, definitely. Regardless of if anybody does you dirty, that's on them. When somebody does you dirty, send them healing energy, man. Because guess what? They lost out on the real one. That's how I feel. Like, you lost out on the real one. I'm not tripping. God bless you. I send you healing energy. You lost out. Yeah, one of them.  Oh, no.  That's your character. Dick. I've also never been that guy that can be that. Like, I had to have it. I had a way, way back in the, not way back. I was when I was working with Wendy and a young lady came over. We got it in. And, you know, when she left, she was like, I'm going home to my husband.    I can't believe her. Did you just use me? You feel like a toy? I did. That ain't a good feeling. No, it's not. I'm a kid. I like intimacy. I wouldn't. At least act like you like me. I tell them kids, I don't like. You know what I'm saying?  I was happy when they left. Not me.   Yeah.  I don't like that.  What? You smashing her too.   I didn't want to check over here. So why you judging? I didn't want to check over here. I'm not judging her. I'm saying you should do better. Stay with your man.  By the way, it takes two. That's what we fail to realize in all of this. That's why we always got to look at this as equal partnerships. It takes two.   I was. That's why I stopped. You know what I'm saying?  Them days has been over. All I'm simply saying is all of this is equal partnerships.  And there ain't no competition. What do you mean? There's more women than men, so they got to take more of the blame. They want to talk to each other. Women don't hold women accountable. No way. Bring it down. What you mean by that?  Just slut shaming and all that other stuff.  Remember when women used to be shamed or being a slut? Now it's a thing to be praised now.  It's not being a slut that's being praised.  That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm trying to do with us. What do we do?   I shot my shot with her. I shot my shot with her.  No, I was trying to find a partnership with all of the A&M girls. You wasn't trying to find no goddamn partnership.  Literally. Now there's a little thot. That's the truth, though. That's the truth. If you did that. No, I'm saying, if you did what you did. OK, that's what I did.  Yeah, but I'm accountable for that. Me, too. 100%. I'm not mad at that. I was ridiculous. Me, too. I know that. You can admit that. As long as we can admit that.   What are you talking about? Yeah, because I just want to know, if you really is a whore, say that off the rip so I can tell me how much it costs. Tell me how much it costs. All right, so wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. OK, another question. So both of you are former, well, I don't know, but y'all are former whores. I've been working for how long.   I've been working for him, too. Because I'm in relationship, too.   I just was a bad boyfriend because I was cheating on a beautiful woman who I love, and I'm glad that. All right, now it's worse than me. I love y'all girls. Y'all girls are great. But if y'all were former whores, right? Yes. Why can y'all not settle down with a girl who lived just like y'all did? I don't think that's a problem. I don't think that's a problem either. For me it is. Because I had this conversation with you. Because I have too many, and I don't want her to get ran through like that. Because she got too many emotions. I didn't get ran through. You got ran through. I was running through. You got ran through. No, you got ran through. It's a difference. Is it you the whole way?  Definitely got ran through. You got ran through. I ain't never get ran through.  It's a difference. No, you got ran through. I get ran through. I know some girls that talk about you like they ran through. Ran through me. When Shorty showed me that picture, you giving her head, I was like, God damn.  Do them dirty. I told this you. And I told her I should do that and do the dirty. Oh, oh, oh. I'll be honest with you real quick. Suited God, so I'm getting in trouble. I don't swear to God. Yeah, that's it. There you go, baby. Four more whores can't date other four more whores. I don't want to. It's ridiculous. I can do that. But I just need to know that you was a hoe. OK. Because I had this situation before. I respect you. When I was with this woman, and I can't say who it is, but we ended up getting a divorce. But anyway, she had all these people on her endless. And I didn't find out until we were married. And it just really bugged my head. I had all these niggas' numbers in my phone. You see, that's the thing, right? Friends. But that's the thing. I hate it. Because what if you were with a girl, and you know you say you can't be with a former whore. What if you already grew to love her, and then you find out she slept with like five people that you actually know? You know what that's doing?  It's just a slow leak. It's going to eventually go down. I don't think it's because of the guys. I think it's because she probably didn't tell you. I think if she was up front from the beginning and let you know that y'all who love each other, you wouldn't even trip. Would you say you wouldn't accept it either way? And that's a double stand. That's all I'm getting at. Let me accept your flaws. Now with some dude I don't think I'm ever being the same room as. You know what? I try you. But I might be in a room one of these motherfuckers one day. What is that? Just some ego? I can't do it. I got a whole ego. Whatever ego is supposed to grow, I ain't got it then.  I don't know how that ego should work. Is a bird. What? Eagle is a bird. What is she talking about? Excuse me, young lady.  Jack Julian's right here. Whoa, whoa. I don't think that's the case. It's only like one or two that I know about. But I don't be wanting to know. I don't be wanting to know. I don't want to know. Nobody's conquest. Don't tell me. We've been past that. We've grown.    I'm super cool on it now.  Tell me who you in love with. Tell me who you're thinking about marrying. You know what I mean? Tell me who you're thinking about proposing to. That's who I care about. Yeah. You know what I mean? And by the way, I tell women that too. Because I'm not going to say who... I didn't met too many of my homegirls' boyfriends. Stop bringing these niggas around. Oh, boy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Charlie's definitely done meeting boyfriends. We get it. I do. I'm tired. Don't do it.  Don't do it. But I like getting approvals. Yeah, we get it. But just don't say it's my boyfriends. Does that really help though, to introduce your significant other to people that are your friends? No, we're going to check them out. Well, because as men, y'all know other men. This is like, if this is solid or not. But you know what, you got to question that. But there's something that you not looking at that I'm not saying. Tell me what the red flag is. So, and I'll just tell you that. I don't have to see them. I need you to judge just off of your pure feelings and whatnot, because you can't really judge somebody off of last week or a year from a year ago. Jack not wrong. He not wrong. And neither not wrong either. But here's the thing. Yes, I can be a man and still be a good guy for you, a good boyfriend. I still might be doing some cheating. I might be doing some dirt. That's a mean of a bad dude. Yeah, I was the worst bad guy for people because I was a great person. I helped your mama go to church with your mama on Monday. Do too much. And you know what I'm saying?  Why do you go to church with the mom? But what do you mean? Because you, I'm going to church. How can I, if I'm a woman, how can I not think this dude is in love with me? And he went to church with my mom. I just want to say, you're dangerous, bro. Yeah, that's a lie. I'm the worst, the worst, you a hit man. You should be in the mirror staring back in the future. But you know what? I'm the guy, I'm the guy that your father will definitely want you to marry, though, because I'm going to hold you down with tech you provide for you and make sure everything is good with you. Just not. I'm the one that your mom also told you about.  I'm the best and the worst for you. We got to add things to the protection provided thing because we lie about that. We say protect and provide, but we only talk about one aspect of protection, which is physical. Because if you're protecting that woman emotionally and mentally, you're not going to do things that's going to hurt her internally.  You know what I'm saying? Like, so it's like we lied to ourselves when we say we're protected and provide. No, we're not. No, I'm protecting her. Not a bunch of different women, no, you're not. You're not protecting her. You're not protecting her. Damn. No, you're not. You're not protecting your heart. Three stacks. What did you say? God, your heart. Three stacks. God, your heart. You got to get a condom for your heart. That's right. Protection for your heart. Hey, let me ask you this. No, you need cages. This is for everyone.  I don't like that. That's dangerous. That is dangerous. I don't like it at all. I want you to let, I want all of us to let go. If we break up, then sorry, you don't have it to my family. And I got to tell my family, no, that's that dude did X, Y, and Z. That girl did X, Y, and Z. We got to let that go. You know what I'm saying? Sorry, mom. Yeah, I don't like certain things that I know somebody who actually did me wrong. We ain't just break up. We just broke up. I mean, I see I might have communicated my sisters and my mom, maybe.   It is different, though, because I mean, I love, I love some. You love some people's moms. That's the mom, you know. Yeah, my mom in prayer worries. She prays for everybody. Let me go. Let me go. My mom would pray for all the way. And the family, too. I don't want to hear. Because it's a doorway to evil. You ever tell me I hear that person's name? It just sends chills through my spine. It's trauma. It's chill, Lord. Trigger. Trigger is a trauma. It all depends on how y'all went away from each other, though. I mean, if y'all would just broke up because y'all are not compatible, that's different, then. Well, you cut things off that doesn't feel good for me these days. It feels great for me. It's the best. Nothing better. Yeah. Nothing better. You don't need it. You don't have to. I don't want to have to find a way to start dealing with things that don't make me happy. That's right. No, you're 100% correct. And I'm so much more free. Dead weight, man. Dead weight. Yeah. I'm not holding on to nothing. All these girls was dead weight. All the what? All these women I was dealing with was all dead weight. Absolutely. I'm not holding on to nothing that I feel like is holding me back in any way, shape, or form. We all too grown for that. We don't have to put up with nothing. We don't have to compromise for no people. We don't have to compromise for no situation. If it's not making you happy, let it go. Let it go. What's weird with you, Wax, though? And I'm done at this. Talk to me. Is that like you? Because we already cutting lots. I love it. You really like take on all this responsibility for so many people. God bless. Unnecessarily, though.  No, no. When you say hole, you don't mean literal horse. No, no. Yeah, you got people like family member. Everybody is a horse in this situation. Yes. I didn't mean, I just meant, you know, the saying save a hole. That's what I'm saying. OK. Thank you. I got a fiance, bro. You saved.  He's there for a lot of people. He takes on a lot of responsibility he don't have to take on. Well, you know, it's in my heart. But he goes to the full utmost, like going to church with the mom. Like, why are you doing all that? Ridiculous.  Like, that makes no sense. Toxic crusade, though. Like he said, you could just put, or like the quote, Jack posted, you just do all that into one or until like. And that's what I'm doing right now. I'm building one right now. But before, I was used to going to church with the moms and stuff, but that was just me. Now you got the farm. Everything. You know why you used to do that? He used to do that to try to justify what it was he was doing. He knew what he was doing was wrong. He knew he was doing them girls. How is that going to go to church with the mom? I have his mom pray for the girl. Then it all raised to send what it was. That's not true. The girl sneaked to go pray with my mom. And I would pray with your mom. I should sneak to go pray with your mom. Girl sneaked. I didn't know if they talked to my mom that much. I didn't know your mom. Everybody know my mom. My mom prayed. Could you stop? Because my mom prayed too. Don't know why I know my mom. Could you stop? My mom prayed for these women.  How are you doing this? Why are you lying? It's silly. It's just silly.  That's their prayers. We talking about my prayers. That's what's up. Today we're unpacking wax. Let's pay some bills, man. Let's pay some bills. Copern underwear. All right.  All right. Don't let the heat rule. Shit, not even the heat. And it's cold weather.  Keep your boys cool with the softest, most breathable underwear ever worn. Copern underwear. I know you're probably thinking, another underwear brand, don't we have enough? Yeah. I thought so too, until I tried them. They changed my life. All right. Also, they're prints. Pretty cute. OK. All right. Pretty cute. And until you see how, you know, totally depraved and all-rated they are. But anyway, this brand pulls no punches. 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They're actually really going crazy. Really good. I gotta get you a pack. I know that she always take them. Why you think they are? Oh, I don't do drugs. Oh, okay. You don't want it? It's Delta 8 and it's actually Hemsaw. It's actually not drugs. Oh. CBD is actually really good. So go to hooswax.net there. And my bags is out in LA. All dispensaries out in LA. Man, I got some work out there. So go to hooswax, go to Peaks and order that hooswax for y'all dispensaries. Well, I will say I passed off some of your things to Issa Rae at the station. Oh, yeah? She did, she did. She was excited. Nala did it, Nala did it like she's sold drugs before. That was a mean, that was a mean, long hand, dawg. That's a ghost sister. I took a picture of her like, hey, are you sure? Yo, my brother got, I got some stuff for you. Look at that, look at that. No, no, no, that's on us, it's on us. She ain't insecure no more. Exactly, you got some church announcements. What you doing? 100%, man. I just finished up the 17th season while and now. Hey. The 16th season is still showing right now. Fine. I just did a deal with Nick Cannon. I'm running his podcast company, an incredible podcast. Wow. Oh, doing a podcast with Lili, The Powder Room. Wow. Yeah. Love to get on that. It's her and two other beautiful young ladies and whatnot, the real Nick and Nicole and maybe Hash Shae. And they're talking about, you know, being cougars and dating younger men and the women of a certain age. Then me and Darius McQuarrie, we got a podcast alongside Tyron Turner. Okay.  Got to jump on that. Tyron Turner Kane from Goddamn Midas. Yes. Wow. We shoot that on the West Coast. Me, music soul child and Carl Payne have a podcast called Matinee.  Yes, yes, yes. And now you can call Thomas. Carl Payne. Oh, Cole. Cole. Wow. Yeah, we're going to do reviews. Yeah, yeah. That's dope. Yeah. And then me and Silk Deshaka got a podcast. Charge it to the game.  Hey, when you bite off more than you can chew, you got to learn how to eat faster. True. Great. Tony Ayo, podcast with Daniel Jean. It's called Welcome to the Culture and whatnot. And he's all going to be on Incredible? It's all going to be on Incredible.  Do your thing. His podcast. You know Scruncho, a comedian from West Coast. He's scared. You got to do the little skating thing. Comic view, love stuff. You know him if you see him. OK. Yeah, yeah. So just a bunch of different things like 16 or better. Once again, 16 or better is the new rep cypher and whatnot. If you have got bars and everything, I don't know if you've seen the BET cypher and what you probably can't get on that. But you can get on my cypher. It's been shot in Atlanta. I got my own studio there. 10 minutes away from the airport. Make sure you get in the hottest cypher out right now. Big boy just gave us the stamp. He just posted it up on his Instagram. It's going up. I'm a Joe's up, man, running the podcast network. Ain't no joke. Hey, man, I'm here for it. I was inspired by my brother, Charlemagne, because at the time I was looking for to do my own podcast, but I couldn't never find an end and whatnot. And I told him I was talking to Nick about it, and he had been trying to do it. He was trying to do it, yeah. But he was me saying I was missing a Jack thriller. I was missing a Dolly Bishop. I couldn't do none of this without my sister, Dolly. Salute to Dolly. Dolly's amazing. Dolly's the president of the Black Panther Podcast network named the number nine most powerful person in podcasting. I don't do nothing. Yeah, Dolly. That's what it's all about. I'm about to be Dolly. Hey, Dolly, you used to work with Nick Cannon. Yeah, Dolly. She worked with Nick for a minute. Yeah, yeah. 100 work with Nick. She was Nick's assistant. 100%. I mean, Dolly done did all types of different stuff in the industry. Dolly worked in the. You got the right one. That's my sister. And that's what people don't understand. Like, that's family, like, for years. Like, before Dolly was, we were doing any of this together, we just crewed. You know, that's family. I love Dolly.  That's what's up. That's just how it goes. Leave Dolly alone. Yeah, you ain't even got to worry about it. There's no, we're right or wrong. Right, right. I don't care. Right. I don't care who right or wrong in this situation.  I like that. I will exhaust every resource I got to make sure that, you know, justice is served. You love that. The relationship ain't like this. You don't need. That's family. But I don't play out like, you know what I mean? You got to like, that's loyalty. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's just, I don't play about my relationship. I don't know about everybody else. I don't have like fair weather friends. You know what I mean? Remember Johnny Gil had that song? It was Westman. It was Westman. And I was Johnny Gil. Oh, Johnny Gil? I'll be your fair weather friend. You right. No, I'm bugging. I thought it was Boyz II Man. No, I don't need no fair weather friend.  Oh my God. Hold on, let me see. You really started with the fair weather friend, right? Yeah, I was on the set with the 85 South. They're booking all my comedy shows right now. Fire. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. OK. It's a pleasure to honor. I see the half. Great things coming your way.  Four into it. One woman. Jack been on the set for how many years, though? Jack been blinding. The lyric is true. I won't be no fair weather friend. I know I wasn't tripping. I won't be no fair weather friend. You was one of the same words. I'll be there till the end. You know what I mean? He a Boyz II Man cousin. Now, you got trust announcements? Yeah, no, for sure. Podcast starts back up in January. The what? The what? With Mouse Jones on the black effect. Yes. People keep hitting me up about it. I'm sorry, but it's coming back. It's going to be great. What? Stop. It was a speck. It was a speck. It was like a test. It was like a test run. It was a, you know, they'd be back. It was looking good. Y'all were radioing everything, man. I was eating it out. Yeah, man, we coming back. Speaking of radio, I got a new show coming up on the radio. You can't announce that, can you? I'm not. I'm just saying, like, y'all gonna look out for it.  But it's going to be dope. The Holy Spirit is moving. Yeah, it's going to be really good. And of course, you know, you catch me on Fridays. I used to be on Revolt, but now I'm on Comedy Central with Sharla. So, you know, it's happening, tuning. Good thing's happening. Nile is the official DJ to God's Honest Truth. Every Friday night at 10 p.m. on Comedy Central. You ready to be DJing? Oh, don't let them play you like that. No, don't let them disrespect you like that. She's SW1-ing. No, she out there rockin'. She's like, who is that? It's a good time. You got to come. I would love to. Yeah, you got to come tomorrow. Yeah, damn. I got to fly back in here in a day. Oh, you going back to Atlanta? Yeah. You got to get back to Wifey. Yeah. I'm not mad at that. I love that, yeah. Not mad at all. Same thing, though. You know, 10 p.m. Friday night's Comedy Central. The God's Honest Truth. We had a dark week last week. We back with new episodes this week. You can scream the first five episodes on Prime Mount Plus, huh? What was so dark about it? It was, we didn't do it as TV, but we didn't have an episode. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What was so dark about it? Twice as dark. But yeah, this episode, I don't even know if I can announce. I don't want to announce who's going to be on this week because it ain't tape yet. So I don't want to, something come up and it don't happen. You know what I mean? But yeah, just tune in this Friday at 10 p.m. and if you want to catch up on the first five episodes, Prime Mount Plus is the screaming service. Check out blackeffect.com. Oh, and Anita, make sure you go out there and grab Anita Copax Shallow Waters, available everywhere you buy books now. Tamika Mallory, State of Emergency is out there too. First two releases off my Book in Print Black Privilege publishing now. Oh, wait, I'm sorry, I have one more. So I'm dropping a song with this artist from the DMV. Her name is Alex Vaughn. She actually just signed to LBRN with Summer Walker and what else is on there? Black and Division. Black is back together? Boom, like an L.A.? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Black Street. Black, like with the number six, L-A-C-K. Oh, no niggas, no niggas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A day hard too though, but I don't know what they do. You don't like Black Street? I used to love that remix, man. Boom, like an 808 remix? The remix, da-na-na-na. I'm gonna say that. I'm saying that tomorrow. That was hard. Not Black Street, just Black. He's talking about Black for the Q, right? No, they were like a TLC. Yeah, they spun off a left eye. I think that was left-eyed's group. It was. And one of them died, I think. Yeah, she got hit by a car. That was, what's the name? All right, it's getting dark. It's getting dark. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sir. She looked a corrupt, resting piece to that queen. Alex Bond. It just got black. Black Street, yeah. Alex Bondiante Hitchcock. Oh, Devonte? Devonte Hitchcock, yes. Devonte's on it too? Yeah. Wow. No, man. No, man. For Black Street. This is all, like, new things, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, all new guys. Yes.  Couple quick ones. Oh, this was interesting. Meet calls out his label for not paying him.  Yes, I have two eyes, Jack. That'll do it. Meet calls out his label for not paying him. Keisha Cole jumped in and said she wasn't getting paid too. That was an interesting conversation because I'm like, Meet, you know, Meet been around a long time. If you think the label's shortening you, audit the label. Like, that happens in business all the time. And auditing, you know, the company that you're in business with or the company that you're partnering with is not a bad thing. It literally happens all the time. You have to do it. How big he said you got to have lawyers watching lawyers to make sure you don't go broke. You got to have people watching those situations to make sure the eyes are dotted and the teeth are crossed. You need to know where every dime is spent. You need to know where expenses are. There's absolutely nothing wrong with auditing. But I do want to point out, artists get advances. So if you get an advance, right? Like, let's just say Atlanta gave Meet $3 million. And I'm sure Meet knows this. Well, Atlanta gave Meet $3 million. If you don't recoup on the money, you know what I mean? Atlantic's in the red, right? But you got 3 million. You owe the label. Ain't like you have to pay the label back. You know what I'm saying? But it's just like, yo, you got that advance.  It's just an advance. It's an irrecupable advance. You know, it's not free money. But that's the only thing I would tell artists.  And they didn't get no royalties on the back end. Royalties on the back end are always a headache. And that's usually where the audits come in at.  Simple as that. And I wish he didn't take that to Instagram. I wish he didn't take that to social. Because nobody's gonna have remorse for Meek. I definitely don't feel sorry at the end. Meek is a stunner. Just paid my Georgia power bill and whatnot. That's what I'm saying. Like, they don't want it. And I saw it. I saw people saying, who cares? Like, you know, we got other problems. Like, Meek, you a millionaire. Like, Meek, you be with the billionaire. So I get it. You know what I mean? Stuff like that, I feel like should be handled behind the scenes. Meek a boss. You a boss, Meek. You know what I mean? Meek a boss now. Like, he used to call himself a little fish. He ain't a little fish.  So I think stuff like that should be handled behind the scenes. Issa Rae in Secure. What y'all think of that? The whole AKA situation. That's a good show.  Okay, break it down. Because Issa's just trying to, like the show just represents our reality. So I don't, like the fact that they're suing her for representing and putting on, like, for people who are watching that who don't even know who the AKA are, it's shedding more light on you. Yeah. You kidding me? So the sorority, the AKA is suing Issa Rae. Yeah, because. No, I don't think they suing. They suing. They not suing. Oh. They not suing. Oh, they not suing. Why would you get mad if somebody put in promotion? Oh, it would just be backlash. Yeah. Because they worked very hard for those letters. You know what I mean? They worked very hard to pledge and pass or whatever they call it. So they don't want it represented. And that's the thing, that's my thing. It's like, I thought that when you use those logos and those letters, you have to get clearance from the organization.  Not in a fictional way.  I don't want none of that happening. Oh, yeah. That would be, instead of aiming at, you know, my good sister Amanda Seals, who I love dearly, I would, or even aiming at Esau, the production. Tell the organization, we don't want nobody wearing our shit, period. Not fictional, not in real life, nothing. If you're not part of the sorority of Frat, done. You just brought it home for me. At first I thought they was tripping. That does make sense. Yeah, it does. You do. That's it. Go back to that Meek tweet. I do want to say one thing about that tweet real quick. It was something I saw in that tweet that made a lot of sense and it kind of proves what I was saying because I saw Meek say something like, he doesn't know how much his label makes off him. That's why you audit the label. You know what I'm saying?  I need lawyers ASAP. He has gotten paid for music because he's got an advance, right? But I get what he's saying.  He's saying that he didn't, I'm assuming he didn't get no royalties. He doesn't know how much the label make off him. Very important to know. Audit them. And I want anybody that's in any business to do the same thing. Even people that are in business with me. You know what I mean? Audit us. So you know exactly what it is you know you're doing and you know where the money is being spent. 100%. That's all. That's all. Okay, what's another one Taylor?  Donald Trump and Alex Baldwin is interesting. The Donald Trump, we know about the Alex Baldwin thing. The way he shot somebody? Yeah, he accidentally shot somebody. Donald Trump, show Jack, show him the t-shirt. Look at the t-shirt, Jack. Look at the t-shirt. This is the t-shirt that Donald Trump Jr. put up. This is the t-shirt. Did somebody set him up and put a real gun?  Look at the t-shirt. Guns don't kill people. Alex Baldwin kills people. That's amazing. Now Donald Trump Jr. made that shirt because you know we all know on SNL, Alex Baldwin be playing Donald Trump Jr. This is fair. This is fair in love and war. It is. I'm not mad at Donald Trump for doing that. But is the Baldwin guy going to jail? No. No, not that we know of. You know what's so interesting about this? Donald Trump Jr. loves his dad, bro. Yeah, he does. Yeah, he does. That's what I'm saying. He's going to war for his pops.  He might probably does. I'm sure his crowd, like listen, we talked about this earlier. Everybody plays today's crowd. Yeah, they be playing. We talked about it. Lil Nas X is playing his crowd. Bootsy playing his crowd.  Donald Trump Jr. for his crowd, they love that. And then it's going to be a whole other group of people who hate it. He sold out.  I would have did that if I was out. You're definitely going to do that.   Anybody. Donald Trump Jr. are reposting it, saying how terrible he is. Either way, he wins. He won. He won. No such thing as bad press these days? No. No, it is. Is it? It is. It is. But either way. Isn't the name of the game these days in Shulamane eyeballs? The eyeballs you got. But that's what I'm saying. There is bad press, but it just depends. You want to get caught drinking off? Bad press. Yeah, but you can live for it. You can legally live past it. We've proven it time and time again that, you know, that, like, what is it called? We won't care about it in two weeks' news.  And then think about it.  All your P.O. going to say is, but you got 100 million impressions. 100%. The name was mentioned 100 million times across all of these variants' platforms. We should come out with a jack-off condom.  We definitely have to monetize it. Keep talking about jacking off. There you go. Talk about a jack-off thing over there. The new jack-off condom. The new condom. You can normalize jacking off, Jack. You know what I'm talking about. Jack people jack-off. Jack person jack-off. This person jack-off. Like, Jesus. Everybody jack-off. If they got a slut walk, you could have a jack-off. 100 million. All right, all right, all right, all right. Jack-off. Jack Thriller. Jack Thriller. Yeah. Kevin Gates was on million dollars worth of game podcasts with our guys Walo and Gilly. And he said that he doesn't ejaculate on purpose. Right? And there is a such thing as, they call it semen retention. It's a fact. I've been telling you guys for how long. You told me that. You have blue balls. Knock it off.  That's not what you used to say. That's not what you used to say. What does he say? That's not what you used to say. Taylor, what does he say? I say that all the time for how many years? He definitely started it. Oh, he was entertaining the podcast crowd. Because behind the scenes. But behind the scenes is... Bro, I got a problem. I can't nut, bro. Yeah, I can nut. But that's not how you spread it on the podcast clearly. Listen, let's put it like this. At one point I couldn't nut. You know what I'm saying? But a lot of times I was not giving the girl because I don't think she deserved it. Man, please. Listen, the girl will give you something if you don't need it. That's him looking at the nut here full. That's what he was talking about. You were not saying that before. He used to be mad at you. I put it like this.  I've been telling y'all this for how many years. I don't care what you were telling them. I'm telling what you were telling me behind the scenes.  It was at one point.   You used to tell me. I think this girl got something on me. I can't nut when I'm with another girl.  I ain't never heard this thing. He don't get what you deserve. The girl don't deserve the next year.  I'm glad you found a way to look at the bright side. I'm just saying that behind the scenes. Okay, when y'all see it, go ahead and look. Whatever you said on the podcast, great. I'm talking about what you used to tell me behind the scenes. That's one time. It wasn't one time. It was a season. How many seasons? It was like three months. How long have you seen this Brahmin playing? Because you didn't know. You and Brahmin are about the same, bro. It was about that whole heat era. How long have you been with Brahmin? No, no, no. I'm not lying. It was a season. It was a season. We had definitely talked about it. I've seen it. I saw it. I heard it. I was like, damn, I can't nut. It was a long time ago. How long? How you had your baby? Does she really be listening to this? She still doesn't let us be back together again. Really? She don't like this right now? She's cool now because your Instagram is getting much better. Thank God for Leely. Thank God for Leely, man. Tell me, though, man. I said, Jack, don't do that no more in the next video. She said, what's this? Never mind. I don't want to get you in trouble. Jesus Christ. Let's do something. Oh, the Black Voligamy thing. The Black Voligamy thing? I was entertaining the thought about, you know, being in a polygamous relationship and whatnot. I don't think it's nothing wrong with having that conversation. Right, right. It's the same monogamy, polygamy. It's this conversation. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to see it. But I still don't know how to say it to her. Who? Leely and say, hey. Oh, that's why you just say it on the podcast and then she'll ask you about it later. Anything you want to talk to your woman about that you're afraid to? I don't want to listen. I don't want to do it. I don't want to know what you think about it. Yeah. What do you think about it? That's what she wants. Yeah, anything for her. Anything for her, whatever. But what if she says she want a guy? Is that a problem?  Yeah, that's what she said. I got time.   No, that is silly. You ain't paying attention. So why the hell would she agree to it? You can't help her clean the house. You could pay somebody for that. You don't got to be dating them. But we can get it for free? No, you need to make more money to pay the price to do it. I would encourage any woman don't do that. Don't do that unless it's with a man that you know going to be with you. Because I've seen some shit, man.   You know what I mean?  You know what I mean? That nonsense. And I've seen them be very, very upset and then the dude just leave. You know what I mean?  You know what I mean?  You know what I mean?   Yeah, he can. I think this generation is a little different.    I don't know a girl that's like admittedly saying that her man used to like had a phase. You never hear about that. Nah, I got to be some out there. You never hear about it. I didn't definitely art girls out there. I just don't know any. You mean neither. I don't know any. My man just had a phase for a season and then he came back. That was the whole episode of Insecure.  So then it really doesn't matter.  He's right! What's the L for? The L for ladies. LL Kujae. Ladies' Love. That's the problem. Those are the double standards that we have created that don't even make no damn sense. I see what you're trying to say.   I'm saying so if you ever played around over there like that and talking about I'm a season, you can't come back from being gay, right? Bro, I don't even jack off no more because it's a man. Doesn't that work the same way with women? No, it don't work the same way with women, man. You said what? What did you say? What did you say? I don't even jack off no more because it's a man's hand. I used to say this thing that we had that conversation here on the podcast.  I said no. That's a lie. These ain't no hands.  There was a hand. What are you doing? And if you jacked off and looked in the mirror, you got turned on by another man. Yeah.   It's the most narcissistic. And when you try to catch it, the one that I never had a hand on, you put it on you. I don't know you catch it. So you don't get it on the floor.  You bugging. No, you don't put it on your hand.   I watch your house.  Ain't my back. On your back.  But where it go? You tell me. How big is this dick? You telling me that? You know what? I don't even want to have this conversation, man. You know what? Jack's really just laying on your back. Laying on your back. I thought you were going to hit him in the back. Oh, God.  I was just going to put my back on it. Because we basically said about jack it off. We like, people be like jack it off and land on them. Bro, you letting them do nothing on you, bro. You let it, you let it on yourself. What do I look like?  How you going to pull it with yourself?  I hated it. I hated it. Hold on.   I hated it.  I'm not nutting on my body. And I catch it with tissue. You've nut on your body before, bro.  You're just like, happy.   Why would I be on my back jacking off?  Why are you like this?  Man, somebody please make that a meme, man. I don't know what that one did.  No context, no nothing. Just make the goddamn meme. If they keep you on the ceiling or something, like, why are you there? Why not? Oh, my gosh.  Why are you laying on your back to let a girl ride you? Oh, because it feels so good. You tell me that.  You get to make yourself feel that good, bro. The whole point of jacking off is to make yourself feel good. You can make yourself feel good for real? Time out, what are we jacking off for then? I don't know why I do it. I don't know why I do it. It's so dumb, you just get it out just because you can think better. But I tell you, you do think better. No, what is masturbation? It's so you can feel good. Dumb. No, no, no. For girls. You know what I am. I used to do it before I was inside of really a good relationship is that if a girl asked me to buy her something that was stupid or if I was going to go to a restaurant that was expensive, I knew what I couldn't afford. I would jack off and they're like, no, that's cool. There you go.  That's not always true.  No, get it out. I'm just going to sign it back to anything. Go ahead now. It helps, yes, but the point of it is for pleasure. That's right. No, for women. I had control of myself. No, for both. What I'm saying is I did it. But it works both ways for both also.    We just try to last longer. For the girl. Yes, but what about now? I do it for pleasure. I'm not doing it for pleasure.  No, what you're saying is true. What you're saying is true because that's another aspect of it. But for the majority of people, they masturbate for pleasure. I mean, I just need to out of it. I don't I don't I don't not try to pleasure. My this feel good. Every every each one of you. You failure. Stop doing it. So this feel good every time you do this. Yes. You only it's only like a good feeling for like five seconds. If you're telling me as you're doing it, you feel good.  Hell, yeah. It's a girl. It's a girl. It's a girl. It's a girl. It's a girl. I love it. Head back and everything.  I tell you, he's like that. Do you still check off as a married man? Yes. Well, I mean, because it's certain circumstances. Like, you know, right? My wife just had a baby a month ago. Yeah, you know what I mean?  She tired. Yeah, I'm not doing that. That's selfish. So yes. You won't even ask for no hair or shit? Like, nah, nah, you gotta look them big. Died man, whatever she was. That's right. That's right. That's right. So yes, a hundred percent. Yes, did a lot of porn hub last four or five months. I've been with a lot of pregnant girls and they were still cool. Early on, no. Early on. Early on. And then it depends on when it starts swollen. That's what I'm saying. They don't feel sexy. It's a lot. You know what I mean? I ain't tripping. That's just part of it. So it's interesting. I can't believe you acting like that wax. Who what? Acting like what?  No, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying I can't see myself enjoying the whole time.  Is it? You watch porn. It don't matter. This is not making me feel good until it's about to nut.  That's a good part about it. That's a good way to think of it. That's a good way to think of it. Now I've never said jack off that ever. That's what we're going to name the podcast, Jack Off. I'm going to introduce you to Jack Thrill. How don't you want to do no asking these?  Jack Thrill, thank you, my brother, for pulling up. Give me your Twitter's and Instagram's and all that stuff. It's at Jack Thrill for Instagram. And it's a young Jack Thrill on Twitter. And I just got my Facebook back. My wife stole it for when we got a divorce. And I just got it back a couple months ago. So it's a young Jack Thrill on Facebook. Please follow right now. Please follow 16 or better, the number 16 or better. And you know what I'm saying? Check out the hottest ciphers ever. Thank you so much for having me. NYLA, get yours. Make sure you guys follow me on Instagram, TikTok. I'm on TikTok now. At Night with Simone. Yeah, I don't be dancing or nothing. I just be talking. I might need to do that one day. Yeah. Now the talking, I ain't going to lie.  I didn't know that it was.  And I've been talking to my man at TikTok, my dude, Eddie. They got book talk over there and like a lot of the stuff I do about mental health goes crazy over there. And like even God's honest truth clips been going.  I don't know. Yo, Charlotte, man, you were supposed to help me put my book outside chick holiday. I still got that, man. Let's talk about it. OK. Yeah, let's talk about it. I'm a man. It's all done. I got everything written out. It's I'm excited. I'm in the book business for the foreseeable future. We got a couple releases next year. We post that three next year, but definitely two next year. We put out two this year. But yeah, we'll definitely talk about it. My man. 100%. I'm going to write a book, too. What was the word? Nobody will buy it. You don't read. How much went back? You've talked too much about not reading and writing.  Do an audible book. Why? Because it's you talking. So people can listen to you. That's more, I think that's more on brand. Yeah. But my book is going to be really nice and simple and easy. Big letters. You didn't call it a book.  Like each is going to probably have like two or three words on each page. I ain't going to tell you all about it. Audible. So you're doing a children's book, basically. No, it's going to be what? A children's book for adults. You know how many people like me? A children's book. Yeah, you can do like a children's book for adults. Whatever. That's dope. That'd be dope. That'd be dope. That'd be dope. 100%.  They're real nice and big. And people just, it's so easy, man. I could do that. Let's do it. I'm with it. Nino Blue is here to salute the Nino, man. Yo, Blue. Nino pulled up. He got a show Friday. He knew where it was. Ghostface killer, right? Mm-hmm. Yep. Wow. Nino bought the boat from me. You know, I had the boat company in Orlando. I told me. Nino bought the boat, man. He got a boat company out there now. He a boat owner. Nah, the level up is crazy. Yeah. Winepigs. As always, if you listen to the podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right.  It's the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Thank you for listening. And remember, salute the WTF media. That's what we recorded today, man. Salute to Alex and Weezy and everybody at WTF. All right? Peace.