Ydw i'r gwleidydd, Clarey? Ymwneud nhw hefyd wrth gwrs. Ydw i'n atletwch, Ramadan. Y rherwydd, wrth gwrs, o'r cyhoedd a'r awdyn ni. Yn bod y fawr o'r cyhoedd sy'n falch i'r f intersecta, yma'r eitaf y graffau cyfeiriad y gwasg, yna y moedd 25 mai'r awdyn. Rydym yn gallu allan. Mae'r poblagion yn Ymwneud, rai gylch i'r poblagion? Darren Rhaid i'r cislwyr. Mae'r poblagion sy'n bryd. Ieithio y cwmaint oherwydd mae'r blaen iawn yn gweithio i fynd i gael Llywodraeth, ond yn gyfferm iawn. Rydych chi'n dweud y cwmaint oherwydd yma. Rydych chi'n dweud, yn gyfferm iawn. Rydyn ni'n dweud, Oeddon, y ddechrau sy'n gwneud. Yn gyfaf, Llywodraeth? Efallai, mae'n rhaid i'ch gweithio i gael yma, Mae ymddillogau ac ymddillogau Cymru yn Gweithgwyrd Rydym yn ysgolwch i fynd i fod yn ymddillogau arall. Dyma'r rhaid i'ch ddod i gael ymddillogau sydd ymddillogau yn cymhwynt. Rhaid i. Ymddillogau'r cyflawn i fynd i'r ymddillogau yn Ymddillogau, sy'n amser yma, yng nghymru ymddillogau yn Ymddillogau. Rhaid i dda, yw Waddon yn ystod eich fyfyrdd o'r ymddiadau cyfryd? Rhaid i dda, ond hefyd yn ddod. Rhaid i dda, ond eich fyfyrdd o'r ymddiadau cyfryd. Clare, os ydych chi'n wneud allan? Nid, rydyn ni'n bwynyd i'r hoffi, sydd roi ddim yn rhaid o'r ffyrdd. Ydw i'n ddod, fel hynny i'n ddod. Ddych chi'n gwneud i ddod, rydyn rwy'n ei wneud i'r llwy yn ddod, Mae gŵr, fanch i'n gweithio. Rwy'n meddwl yn agyn nhw'n Gŵr. Rwy'n meddwl yn rhan o'u gweithio'n meddwl. Mae'n meddwl i arisi ein o'r fervlau, gyd-ig idd-ig neu flwyddedol eich meddwl. Rwy'n meddwl gan milyddio, ddod i'r meddwl i'r meddwl. Felly rydyn ni'n gweithio'n meddwl i'r mordio. Mae'r meddwl yn meddwl ddod i gŵr. Mae'n meddwl ar lwyngorion mwy teulu. Milwch yn dda i chi'n gwybod, ac roeddwn i'n ddweud y cathrwyng yn gweithio. Ddiolch yn gweithio, Catherine. Yn ystod. Ddiolch i'ch ddweud. Dyma, nhw'n gweithio i chi'n gwneud ymddangos o'r pergynig mewn argwain a gweithio a'r cyflawni'ch ffordd, a'r gweithio i chi'n gweithio i chi'n gweithio i chi'n gweithio i chi'n gweithio ar y distwch. Ac yn fwy o'r pergynig mewn arwain, mae'n oed yn ajw, mae'r dweud y bwysig o gweithgol. Rwyf yn dynion, 21 yna, sy'n gweithio ddim yn bwysig, yr oedd dweud y ffringfant a blwyddyn ffondi'n 40,000 o'r gweithio ddwygrwyngio'n gwrthavir yma o'r drwy gweithio, o'r gweithio'n gweithio ddwygrwyngio'n gwybod, a'r ddweud o ddwygrwyngio ddwygrwng oedd yma o gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio. new's schemes that were then in limbo between the two periods of funding. That $40,000 was to be used for the ten schemes that we created and to get them through the 18-month period that where there was a gap. What we're just saying today is that that being agreed we'd like to add to that pot the refunded money that's come back from the gambling aid they have unfortunately had to close their scheme, not for one to trying very, very hard to get it off the ground, but they've having spent some of the funding returned to us 5,439.87. And we just wanted to get agreement that the best place for that funding is to go back into that pot with the policy. 1000, and then that be used in October of this year again to bridge the gap between the end of the full full period of funding and the next mobile warden scheme grant scheme opening next month around. So that's it really. Thank you. Thank you, colleagues. Seems quite a reasonable proposal and fits with all the things that we have agreed in the past, so I certainly have no objections. I think we have discussed this in the past to some extent, and I think Claire, are you in agreement? Yes, I have gone on to mute. Sorry. Do you think there's a possibility that the Gamin Gay arrangement might start up again or is it sort of completely? I think at this point they consider it to be completely closed. They did try, they tried. I think you remember we came back to you with a slight change in the objectives of the scheme and we tweaked it for them and they tried a slightly different way. But I think the networks around and about in the Gamin Gay area are such that there isn't actually as much need for the scheme as was first anticipated in the future that may change. And when the next mobile warden scheme round of funding opens, they wanted to try again, then they would be very, very welcome to apply again for more money at that point. But at the moment it's suggested that this just goes in, keeps the refund in line with the original purposes of the money, which was to go to old people schemes from mobile warden services. I'm happy with this then. Thank you. Can I just say that my experience during the pandemic was that relatives were very anxious about their older people and were reluctant to join the scheme and that reluctance is just beginning to be relieved by people going back to work and not working at home quite so much. So I think it will turn around, but at the moment it's a bit of a dead duck. And I know that Leslie in her role is in constant contact with them. So if there were a need and they did want to start again, then they would they have recruited a warden, they had done everything they needed to do to get set up, but it just didn't seem to have enough clients to make it work. So if that does change, then we will come back to you and let you know. But as I say, if it's in time with the next round of mobile warden scheme funding, then they would be welcome to apply to that just as the others do. And if it's before that, we'll come back to you and let you know. That's brilliant. Just to say the staff are extremely proactive. So this offices is absolutely superb. So that's great. Just to check in, Catherine, we've got the options 24 and 25, the alternative options in 25. I'm assuming that you would prefer or we would prefer the option 24 paragraph 24. The committee asked to recommend these funds to be secured for the original purpose. I support the older people by funding the new warden schemes as we agreed in your outset. Yes. OK, then. I don't feel many to show of hands to rule in agreement. So are you OK with that, John? Yes. Thank you. And that's just for anyone who doesn't record. The lead member for Finance, Councillor John Williams, is in the Chamber with us. So that's who I just asked. Thanks. Right. OK. So you're all done on that one then, Catherine, yeah? On that one, yes. Thank you. Thank you very much. So agenda item number five, community chess funding applications. Now Emma, is that going to be you or are you sharing it with Catherine? That's me. Hi. You OK? Hi. Good morning. We've got a number of applications this month. We've got 70, 17 I think it's in total, of that we have seven jubilee applications. Shall I go through the longer ones first and leave the jubilee ones at the end? Is that the best way to do it? That's what I was thinking. Yes, please. OK. So our first application is from Steeple Mordden Bowls Club. They have been running since 1948. They consist of 50 members. You come from both Steeple Mordden and the surrounding villages. Member subscription is £65 for the year. The club benefits from a qualified coach. Members play in three county leagues, friendlies, as well as inter-club competitions. And in the winter, they can play inside as they've got short mat bowling. Transport is provided for those unable to drive. And during lockdown, paths were widened and ramps installed to provide wheelchair access. They've tried to encourage younger members to join, but that's been unsuccessful unfortunately. But they do have plans to open some open days and attract more members. The clubhouse is also used for bingo, quiz and race nights, afternoon film shows and funeral wakes, which are free for the members. Barbecues are also held in the summer months. So basically the application is for a second-hand mower. Sorry, the club has two mowers for the green, however the second mower is unable to cut the grass efficiently. So it needs a complete overhaul. So replacing with a second-hand mower is proving to be more expensive. So they are requesting parts labour collection and delivery of a new mower from a local company. Total costs are £1,199.53. Councillor Heather Williams is in favour, very supportive. The parish council have been contacted for match funding, but they've said in fairness to other clubs in the village. They've also set aside a fund for a building on the recreation grounds, so they're unable to at this point. So thoughts please. Emma, can I just check before we go into debate, if you wish? The remaining budget on the sheet on page 14 of our agenda. I just want to make sure that we've got enough money left to service if we were to go through and approve every grant. Yes, I believe there's £3,000 remaining. I haven't got that sheet off the notes. I think it's £3,000, yes. And don't forget the 74p. We have a bit of an alteration. Somebody, since the report was published, somebody is requesting £71 less, so that figure is going to be a little bit more. So I think it's about £3,200, I think, in total. Right. Chair, if I may. I've got another question on this page, actually. Under the table, under biodiversity, we've got £10,000 there. Have we had any applications on this line? No, not yet. No. It's quite new. I just wonder if we perhaps need to do a bit more publicity about it. That will be done, yes. Yes. Yes. Okay, thanks. I have a question for the member for finance, actually, at the moment, if I may, John. That £10,000 that Clara has highlighted runs out at the end of this month. So if we don't have any applications in this month, since it runs out at the end of this month, what would be the criteria as far as you're concerned with regards using that within the community chest if we have an abundance of applications? I think I can't see any reason not to, but, of course, we are then talking about the new financial year. So we would need to put that money into next year's budget. I haven't had a proposal to do that. No, I just... So as it stands, as you say, the money runs out at the end of this financial year, and in the new financial year, we can then make a decision whether or not to carry that money forward or to put it back into the general fund. Thank you. Catherine. Yes, I was just going to say that funding came from what was actually in the planning area. So what we've done is already contact Jane Green and just ask her whether she would be open to us asking for permission to do that or whether that needs to be returned to their budgets over there. So we've started to ask those questions. I don't think we've had a reply yet, Emma, but we've started that process just so that you know, Councillor Williams. Thank you very much, Catherine. Brilliant. OK. Peter. Just a quick comment from me. So I know that I have a couple of my parishes who are looking to start a biodiversity-related project. So if it's possible that we can carry it forward and utilise it next year, I think it will be utilised. That's my sense. Yeah, I agree. I think all four of us are in agreement here, aren't we? OK, right. OK, back to the agenda then with the Sleep and Molden Bowls Club. Has anyone got any comments with regards to this? I suppose my first question is, why do they need two lawnmowers? I can usually manage to cut my lawnmowers. Well, yes, precisely. I'm not entirely sure to be fair. It was something that crossed my mind as well, but obviously there's obviously a need there because they do have two, and they're actually asking for parts for a second one, so there's obviously a need. I don't know if potentially they split the work between two people if it's a little bit hard work. I can ask the question, of course. Do they know that we don't allow petrol mowers? I didn't know that was actually something that we didn't allow. I thought that the green options could get considered, but I think they had looked into it, and this was just one of the options that potentially for the grass, I don't know. I can find out. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I can find out if they wanted to consider an alternative potential. Could I just ask members of the committee, then, isn't that the case that we strongly encourage to avoid petrol mowers? It certainly is, and Peter had his hand up, so he may have something in particular. Well, there are two comments from me. So the next application in Linton is also asking for a mower, a petrol mower. I think that from what I understand, there aren't the range of mowers available at the moment, other than petrol-based but cleaner machines. So I think we can encourage it. I'm not sure we can specify it. Right. John? Yeah, on this particular application, I think we should welcome the fact that they want to overhaul and use their existing mower rather than buy a new one. I think we should take that into account, because that in itself is more sustainable. I think so. As Peter said, just to reiterate, is that we don't have the kit on the market at the moment for the commercial electric. We've got domestic electric, but this is more of a commercial nature in it. Right, so how are we feeling with this one? Colleagues, are we going with it? Yep. Clare, is that a thumbs up? Yes, it is. That's a yes then please Emma. Okay, thank you. Next one on a similar note is the Linton Village Cricket Club. They are part of the England & Wales Cricket Board. They were established in 1852. They currently have 18 members. They have five teams, different age groups play. The season lasts from April until the beginning of September, and they have games most Saturdays and Wednesdays. The pitch is on the recreation gap grounds and is owned by the Parish Council. Members, they pay £25 per annum and juniors pay £7.50 per annum. Basically, so yes, they've got two mowers. One is broken and the other is beyond economic repair, and due to the age of them, the second part is getting harder and more expensive. During the cricket season, the mowers needed several times a week to ensure that the pitch is in optimum condition to play on. This application is again for another petrol mower. It says here that it is specifically designed for cricket pitches, but they would also like to include some attachments, some cartridges for different surfaces. Basically, this goes without saying, it would enable the cricket clubs to continue and hopefully attract new players. The total cost is £2,725, of which £1,225 has been requested through the community chest. The Parish Council are contributing £1,500, and they've applied to the Anderson Trust for match funding, but we're still waiting for a response on that one. The Parish Council have already helped to purchase a mobile cricket net back in 2021. Both Councils Henry and John Bachelor are in support. Yes, over to you. Okay, thank you. Colleagues. Could I speak, Josh? I really like the fact that the Parish Council have contributed £1,500 and purchased new mobile cricket nets, and I think it's a really good application, actually. It's got enough detailing and not too much. Well expressed. Yes, so I'm in favour of it. Lovely. Can I ask what happens if the Anderson Trust is forthcoming with match funding? Are we waiting to see what that happens, or do we say yes, and then they will have additional funds to spare for other things? Potentially they might have additional funds. I need to double check with them. As of today, I've not heard anything about the Anderson Trust coming back to them, so potentially we could fund and then obviously review on the Anderson Trust side of things. I'm not entirely sure. I'm looking at John, but could I say that we put a caveat on this, that if the Anderson Trust do come back and are generous in their grant funding and amount that we deduct that amount from what we've given the club, yeah? So we reduce what we give by whatever they've given so that we can spread it around. John? Yes, so we will have to do that because obviously we are giving this money for our specific purpose, and therefore if they receive match funding, then by all means they can spend it on something else. But I have to come back to this committee to get our approval, so I have to submit a new application to spend that money on something else if they want to submit an application. But that money will have to come back to us because we are giving it for a specific purpose. You've got that Emma? Yeah? Yeah, I've got that. So other than that I will be in agreement if it's a yes. Thank you. Next one now. So on page 19 we have Carlton Parish Council. They basically consist seven members. They include a zero carbon subcommittee. Litter is proving a problem by road users disposing of litter on the roadside and surrounding areas and volunteers are undertaking litter picking safely initiatives. So basically they need some litter picking equipment which includes six litter pickers, six litter bag hoops, six hivers and waste coats of a total cost of £440.09. Being a parish council with a very small preset they are unable to contribute financially so they're requesting a whole cost of £440.09. And if successful they will publicise this to the wider community via the magazine, WhatsApp group and Facebook and word of mouth. Councillor Jeff Harvey is in support. Thank you, Members. Yes, I thought our refuse service would supply all of these provisions if you'd just ask. So I'm reluctant to spend money on it. They do and I've actually queried this with them but it's on a loan basis. So I think this particular group they go out all the time across various of parishes and so I think it's something that's obviously really important so that they have this and I don't think it actually goes up to the six. I don't think it includes all of the equipment potentially. I'm not sure if it includes the hoops but like I say it's on a loan basis so that they wanted something of their own so they can go out as and when. So the litter pickers are those hand-grab things, aren't they? My maths is escaping me but £299 divided by six sounds like a lot. A litter picker. I mean I'm in agreement with you so I think Emma it might be worth even if we were to fund the purchase of the equipment that we supply on loan because I'm damn sure we get it for cheaper than £48 quid of pop and would it be possible that we could have an extremely long term loan to this council from us? John? Well I can only go on what happens in Fortbourne and in Fortbourne the litter pick is organised by the civic amenity group Fortbourne-Born but the equipment that they use is our equipment which is kept by the parish council. It's the same in Melbourne. And therefore I looked at this and I thought why are they asking us to buy stuff which they can get from this council? I'm hearing that you're supposed to give it back but to be honest with you I don't think anybody gives it back. You just keep it for the next litter pick. They don't last that long? Yeah apart from that they don't last very long. So yeah I do think we should... John I'm like you I think that we need to explore or they need to explore whether they can get all this equipment from us and that they are allowed to keep it to use by the parish council. I'm convinced you won't get the hoops on the Hybeys jacket. I'm not sure about Hybeys jackets you're right on that but certainly the hoops we've got in Fortbourne from us. The Hybeys jackets I think we have had Hybeys jackets but I'm not sure where they came from. They're not very expensive and working out at over £10 per Hybeys well it's a vest basically but you can buy them a lot cheaper than that. I think this needs to go back I'm sorry Emma but I think you need to go back to them and ask some questions about this. Absolutely, that's fine. So we just back the whole lot, yeah? I think we just return the whole lot for defer it with that, yeah? Yeah. Just to confirm so you said defer is that a rejection for them to go away and reconsider or is that a deferral to come back? They need to come back to some prices and do some... bit more... give us some quotes because as John says Jacket for 10 quid of pop is a lot and as you rightly said £48 for a little picking device is extremely high so we can service those through our waste disposal people as Sue said the hoops can go there from waste disposal people and they can have a very long term loan there you go so it kind of makes sense really they're doing our work as well so it's fantastic so Right, okay so that one is a semi deferal refusal however you want to take that one go away please return with further information Thanks. Okay, on page 20 we have so positive this is a charity from Hazlingfield it was set up in response to the COVID-19 pandemic as a voluntary initiative called Community Masks for NHS which made over 13,000 fabric masks for community use they raised over £40,000 for the NHS charities together initiative includes over 50 volunteers who include students, people working full-time retirees, shielding individuals and people with no sewing skills it was also brought with it mental health and social inclusion benefits so positive was formed then in December 2020 they received community chest funding of £1,000 back in March 2021 for their start-up costs so there's a number of benefits here obviously including social cohesion supporting social inclusion and positive mental health as I've said and the project that they would like to do is to provide community workshops to support wellbeing through sewing upcycling using sustainable projects for textile use and giving basic sewing skills to communities plan is to hold five workshops which will take place over the year and they will open up to individuals from any parish in the districts the locations will be in south Cain butcher villages and also city locations so the online workshops will be available as well if needed but obviously those will be more flexible on the numbers total project cost is £3,000 of this £1,800 is requested through the community chest to pay for their set-up costs and materials to support the workshops and their charity so this includes public liability insurance just giving fees, zoom licences face-to-face workshop hire venues and fees and materials and fabrics the remaining £1,200 to deliver the workshops and community events has been applied to from the Coal Charitable Trust the outcome of this will be determined at the end of May and methods to advertise the scheme have included leafletting and public spaces community centres, libraries, public notice boards so councillor Ian Sollum is very happy to support so positive application so yes it's £1,800 that they are requesting Well, I very much support the sentiment of this whole charity and I do believe that it has a real therapeutic opportunity for individuals my only concern is £960 for fabrics and materials now I have a quilting group of 12 of us and we each said the other week that if we'd sewed every day for the next until we were 150 we would not have used all the fabric we have in our cupboards and fabric is very much available from older people like myself who die and relatives have a real job in getting rid of that sort of thing so there's an element there of feeling that there is opportunity to recycle quite a lot of material I'm sure I could keep this group going for a whole year just out of my stash so just a thought Clare, you've got your hand up Yes, I agree with Sue on that but also I would just query should we be providing £216 for just giving fees I mean I'm not against supporting Sue positive but I'm just wondering about what we're being asked for here specifically it's just a question to other members of the committee I'm looking at John since he's the lead member for finance but other than Sue's comments about material I think we can probably encourage through Emma perhaps not to make an appeal for material to keep him going in the future but the 216 is the one that Clare has raised for the just giving fees Thanks There may be a question around the 216 that we can clarify but overall given that it's just over half that they're applying for of the total funds that are required then I don't have a problem with it I think it's fine to ask clarification on the 216 I think we're probably all in agreement on that it's the 216 so John what's your opinion on the 216 Well I think this is a super scheme and I think we should be supporting it to be honest I don't have an issue over the 216 but if you think that we ought to look further into that that's fine but I'm quite happy with this I don't think it was whether we were unhappy with it whether it was if you want to call it inverted commerce lawful as far as our scheme is concerned but actually that 216 would generate a whole shedload more money so it's probably an investment in the long run so if we're all in agreement, Clare you in agreement Yeah I'm happy with that I just tell you as I said I wanted to hear what other people say so I'm happy with that Absolutely thank you very much Neko that's an approval Next one please Emma Okay page 21 we have Overday Centre a charitable incorporated organisation it's been running since 1989 it provides professional care and friendship for older people in over and the joining villages there's currently 35 members each of which pay £23 per day transporters provided either by their families the day centre minibus or the owls driving scheme the day centre is experiencing various challenges since it closed in March 2020 due to Covid-19 so with its closure contributions from funding and support allowed the centre just to cover continuing overheads and revenue costs and the day centre was able to reopen but only at certain times in April 2021 but it still faces the challenge of continued advice to follow a two-metre social distancing role this has meant that the client capacity is now half so it's 15 as opposed to 30 of what it was before the pandemic and loss of client income obviously has meant that the centre is now drawing upon reserves to remain open trustees, staff and volunteers held two fundraising events last year the five pub challenge walk and bike rides both which were very well attended but numbers were with these events still down compared to the previous years because they couldn't hold them in the summer obviously summer would draw in more people coming along to them after these events trustees estimated that the call on reserves to remain open could be around £33,000 by the end of this financial year but the asset management lead officer at Cambridgeshire County council has advised that if two co2 monitors were installed the day centre could be safely open to increase the number of client numbers at any session to 25 clients up from 15 clients they're also planning a campaign to increase client interests and numbers as well with social prescribers, the social media to reach carers and distributing leaflets and posters so in total they would like a grant of £883.20 including VAT for both co2 monitors and leaflet and poster distribution they've not approached the parish council for help as they already have provided a grant of £5,000 back in June 2021 so it's the full cost of £883.20 Thank you I felt you were correct me if I'm wrong we had this one, this has come back again, hasn't it? No, I think we had queried it I know I've not seen it before I mean, this is highly important with the mental health side of it with older citizens John, you want to say something? I'm not too bothered about this I am bothered by what I read about the way that this has been run and the financial sustainability of the place I mean, it says here that they need two co2 monitors to enable the increase the client number to 25 presumably they can't go over limit of 15 it's elsewhere they're saying that the client capacity is now half, 15 as opposed to 30 it couldn't be 30 because they haven't got the co2 monitors to permit them to do that I think that was pre-covid the co2 monitors so even with the two co2 monitors they still won't get back to 30 which presumably is their business plan that they need 30 clients to be solvent and yet they won't get 30 clients they'll only be able to get 25 so I need to understand it's such a small amount of money let's give it to them, let's help them but they really need to go and seriously start looking at their future business plan because if it's based on 30 clients they can't have 30 clients they can only have 25 and so, you know let's say, they need to I'm not sure this will survive to be honest but I'm happy to help them in the meantime but they really do need to get their heads around the figures okay, I mean I totally understand what you're coming from the fact that the county council are involved if you will with advice and what have you for the co2 monitors it must be the adult social care department of some description would you agree Emma? this is senior citizens isn't it I've been looked after a day centre and they're vulnerable individuals so imagine why they want the co2 monitors and why have you too and they're also at a discounted price as well okay look, if the lead member for finance is okay with this one I am, colleagues I'm looking around the room there we're okay, yeah but as John says Emma we need to be tactful and ask them how they are going to survive in the next coming months so for the rest of this year while we're on slightly reduced numbers everywhere, while we're coming out of the Covid issues of course, thank you very much okay, so on to the next one, page 22 we have a fundraising village hall management committee they consist of nine members who manage the village hall it's been in use since 1938 so it's used by various local groups including the beavers, cubs, local leisure classes and a community cafe income is derived solely from hall hire including private hire for parties and through grants so recent remedial work carried out on the roof of the village hall discovered that the guttering and downpipe were leaking and to mend this would prove difficult because of the imperial fittings that had been used because of the age of the building and the building trade now only used the metric equivalents and they've made some sort of patch up sort of repairs in the past but they seemed to be unsatisfactory due to this issue so basically the application is to replace all of the guttering and downpipes to ensure that the fabric of the building is secure and no longer in danger of developing damper problems and to ensure the safety of the village hall for users so the total project cost is estimated to be £2,388 of which the full £2,000 has been requested through the community chest broken down this would be seven days labour of £200 a day materials which will be £735 and skip hire so councillor Sue Ellington you're in support of this application and on the 24th of this month sorry yesterday the parish council has agreed to donate £250 towards the costs thank you Sue do you want to go first and if you enjoy well really I've said it's a well used building and this I believe is a well used of our resources and they really do struggle to manage to keep the building in good state of repair it's like this it's got a very high roof because it used to be a tennis court squash court and so it's not what you might call very friendly and only but they struggle to make it work John you want to say something just can I ask Sue is it in a conservation area or listed? No it's not okay that's great thank you okay colleagues Peter Plair Pete yeah he's no place yeah I'm happy with this so that's lovely thank you very much Emma that's another one okay thank you so page 23 we have Camborn Town Football Club landowner so the actual football ground is owned by the Landowner of the Parish Council it was recently formed in June 2021 which has brought together five large clubs in Camborn so it's quite a big football team it's offered to men women and children of all age groups as one clear progression it's now the biggest in so it consists of 45 teams, 700 players and 110 coaches and most of the teams are for children but there's also Send Football as well and other initiatives are also being provided and what they're finding is that with so many games played each week they've looked into new approaches to maximise the number of games that can be played on the pitches so old and bent can only accommodate one size of pitch but if they're replaced with the new roller goals you can see the picture there these goals can be moved around and it makes it a lot easier for configuring the football pitches for all the matches that they want to play so what they're looking for is a total applied for £1958.33 and that would be for goals they've got a set plan providing goals in the priority order in the table that you can see there they've also made applications to Green King proud to pitch of £3,000 Grassroots football of £2,000 and they're just waiting on decisions on those ones but that would be for the further goalposts as well the £5,000 has also been raised from the football club themselves and also the Town Council who are the landowners they've employed also a football officer brought containers, created storage pens for the goals and have financially and physically supported the club since it started they're very much in support so yes it would be two goals or one set as shown in the picture Thanks Emma did you say Campbell and Town Council have put in £5,000? They've raised the money yes from the football club and the Town Council just a question Do you know if Campbell has got an all weather pitch like a 3G or 4G pitch? Not entirely I don't believe so but This is very pertinent actually it might be worth mentioning this that the FA Football Association across the land are having over a 5 or 6 year period a campaign to put in 100 per year if I'm correct 100 per year 4G pitches or 3G pitches Melbourne has just taken ownership of its one they're on average around about a million people take to put in the FA pay at the start of the project half but then if there are measures that you can put in such as 106s and other piece and pieces they tend to as in Melbourne's case they paid the majority nearly the 800,000 of that million so it's a heck of an investment but it also takes out the grass pitch side of it and you have 365 ability to play so it may be worth them making an approach if they've got football teams in Cambon and the parish to make the approach to the FA because it's worth it, a goldmine OK so anybody else got some comments on this? Clare, Pete, Sue? Yeah, we're OK with it? Yeah, we're OK, thank you very much that's another one, thanks Emma OK so that's Cambon 35, we've got some Gamlingay Baptist Church who are a part of the Baptist Union of Great Britain the church dates back to 1670 and runs many community outreach projects which includes the Backroom Cafe and the Gamlingay food project currently there are about up to 100 members actually so it serves quite a lot of people the Backroom Cafe is a community cafe which serves artisan coffees, teas and homemade cakes every Monday and third Sunday of the month it creates a welcoming space to between 60 and 100 people a day regular visitors coming from Gamlingay and the surrounding areas and in addition the cafe is portable having previously set up in other parts of the community for special occasions at the moment they use two home espresso machines which serve 60 to 100 drinks a day but these machines are pretty much overworked and struggling to keep up with demands so funding of £2,000 is requested as a contribution towards the £6,700 required for a commercial coffee machine grinder and extras and if you look at the breakdowns we've got a coffee machine the grinder with various decaffinated grinders and various options and boxes and things and two times tampers I'm not exactly sure what that is but it's all part of it that's obviously something that would help provide these artisan coffees one of the quotes includes the cost of a second hand grinder so they're looking into obviously second hand options as well compact second hand coffee machines are harder to obtain and also unfortunately larger sized machines would be too big for the space that they've got available so the quote that they've given is for £6,700 total costs of which we would contribute Councillor Bridget Smith is very much in support as well and the parish council in support as well and they've also agreed at their parish council meeting that they're in support but they cannot support financially at this time so the parish council are supportive I shall start as I believe the only fully trained barista in the room I know exactly what they're talking about you know what they're talking about I don't have a problem with this this is perfect it's doing what it says on the team with a number of people as well and obviously the community of Melbourne anybody else got any other points I can actually say I can do you a lovely latte or cappuccino right if you want some locker I am pretty dabb out of that as well it sounds like a very good place to go for coffee and cake I was actually talking more about Melbourne hub in this place but hey what the heck I'll get that in there at some point okay thanks so we're all in agreement are we thank you very much there's another one Emma off your list okay so page 26 we have the Balsham 1617 map project so this was formed in 2013 with the aim of publishing a book which covers 400 years of the history of Balsham this was successfully achieved in 2017 and Balsham a village story 1617 to 2017 was given to every household in the village so currently there's eight members in the group and to complement this book they would like to purchase and install two lectin style map display boards as shown in the picture and one of the maps one board will be a replica of the earliest map of Balsham and then the joining map will show the village as it is now highlighting the historical buildings, public footpaths and byways and also it wants to sort of tie in as a sort of lasting commemoration of the platinum jubilee as well they will be on parish council owned land close to a public footpath in the centre of the village so they can be viewed quite easily the total cost of this project is 3,250 and of this £1,000 is being requested through the community chest and the parish council have agreed to donate £1,000 and then the remaining £1,250 will come from the Balsham map group book sales which you can see all the breakdowns of the costings there councillor Jeff Harvey is saying that he has no hesitation in recommending this new project for community chest support so over to you Comments, colleagues Sounds like a good project to me I think it's a great idea to make the 1617 map available and also to put the history of the village out there in the open, I'm very supportive of this Historic villages need to be highlighted given the amount of new houses that are going in all around and we need to look after them and cherish them so yes I support it I wonder if this isn't a model for other villages as well it seems a very worthwhile project and the way they've gone about it and all the detail, maybe they could we could share with other parishes as well That's something I know that Peter just said but she won't ask them actually whether they'd be willing to share their format so to speak Definitely maybe to speak at a workshop that we could always ask them I'm looking around the room, I don't find any objections so we'll take that as a yes again lovely Page 28 we've got an organisation called Shed It so basically it's a men's shed set up in 2018 to provide practical community activities to promote social inclusion and wellbeing, there's currently 20 members each pay a £1 subscription so it's quite cheap The Swaves the Sustainability Hub will be launched by Shed It as a planned for a weekend in June 2022 the fair will be open to everybody in the village and surrounding areas and called re-imaging the future and it will start new projects including a repair cafe and a clotheswap as well as support existing community facilities including the orchard and lotments and the weekend they've got a feature wildlife walks beekeeping talks, vegan food tasting mucky kid activities, community feasts and a citizen science data collection A map of the village is being painted by a local artist who will describe the activities and the printed map will be delivered to every house in the village and there will also be wildlife stickers which children and young people can get as a prize for increasing biodiversity in their gardens and this will also promote the hub and the fair and engage all of the community so the total project cost for this one is £1,314 which is a change to the published reports that you have so it's £71 cheaper because they've got their firm quotes that have come through the firm invoice so basically this would be publicity, leaflets design poster printing, window stickers, tall hire materials craft and kitchen materials a website domain and maintenance the land where the fair will take place is owned by the George Long charity and the parish council have previously contributed £90 to shed it the parish council are in support and have also provided funding to cover the cost of hiring the memorial hall for the weekends and councillor Sue Ellington you are in support and yes please any comments thank you well shed it was excellent and I managed to get a garage of one of my friends where they could all meet and they did so much good stuff but unfortunately my friend had Alzheimer's and his currently had to move out and therefore they had to move out but the charity remains and the members remain and it really has been good for them and for the village and if only I could find another barn for them it would be great but they are planning to move on to the next stage and have a mobile home or something of that nature to become their base and have run this weekend and recruited more people and so it really is I think a sustainability hub in Swansea is just a dream that we all should support Clare my question was actually about the sustainability of the sustainability hub and I think Sue has answered it it does sound very good what they are going to do in June 22 sounds imaginative but for how long are they going to last I think that is what I am wondering about but I think Sue has answered that if they are looking for a mobile home and planning for the future thanks I think they are ready and they put quite a lot of thought into this so it looks pretty good I am very much in favour of this these are wonderful things you often see these things publicised on television with Sherry apparently Sherry in the shed not that I am advocating drinking Sherry during the day apparently Sherry is meant to be one of the past ones with coffee ok, in that case that is an approval thank you very much so we are now on to the Queen's Platinum Jubilee Applications and you can see the map which shows the applications we have received from which parishes so I will go on to the first one on page 29 which is the Gamelon Gate Community Centre on page 34 could I just ask a question a question of clarification please am I correct in thinking that the instructions that went out the funding was for permanent objects not for cakes and bunting on the day am I correct in that? yes ok, so Gamelon Gate Community Centre set up in August 2010 is an eco-friendly community facility offering a wide range of community and recreational activities for the people of Gamelon Gate and surrounding areas it is owned by the parish council and it provides facilities in the interests of social wealth wealth there, recreation and leisure time for all ages and levels of ability and disability so this application is to create a wildflower area on the mound by the recreation area at the rear of the eco hub building and this is a well used area by the public and will be seen and appreciated by all who walk past as well and they are requesting £643 which is the total project cost to remove the scrub part plants that are growing there at the moment and they are quite overgrown as we can see and they would like to replant with a suitable wildflower mix the colours of red, white and blue will be used to reflect the queen's jubilee with other coloured wildflowers to be added in the future and they would also like to prepare and reseed a few other well used grassy areas that are worn down around the hub and the above cost includes labour and the removal of all the green waste by a local company so that's £643 it looks like they've got a significant project for this project the whole event's cost in 20k for the celebration way here so I can't see £600 could be a problem my only question is we seem to have two applications from the same parish council and did we not state that it was £700 per village? The second one is a jubilee committee which aren't they're an unincorporated association and if they were successful because they're under the umbrella of the Gaminigay community centre the funds would go to them but it would be a organisation as such because they're a jubilee committee but they are both in Gaminigay that's correct yes I was under the impression that any groups within a community could make an application as well as the parish council or other groups could also make an application to the community chest payment so essentially you could go to 2700 if you were successful right so how do you feel Clare, Peter, John I'm happy with the first one for Gaminigay the £600 one £667.57 Okeydoke 643 on page 30 sorry wrong side okay so the next one is the sorry that was okay there on you on the next one page 30 we have the jubilee committee that I just mentioned they were set up on the 24th of January and they consist of three resident volunteers wanting to organise a celebration for the Queen's Platinum jubilee and that will be obviously on Saturday 4th of June the celebration will be in two parts so they will have self-organised afternoon parties where residents and community groups will be encouraged to have their own neighborhood parties and that will be on the sort of common ground areas and then also there will be a free communal evening gathering in the recreation field behind the eco hub for a screening of the Queen's concert from the palace so to support the neighborhood parties there will be a number of activities which include recipes, games, a quiz, treasure hunt tips and how to make your party more environmentally friendly stories, history of the past, Gaminigay jubilees paper crowns and old photos for residents who want them and then the children will contribute to these packs as well, local community groups so the schools, churches, youth club, history society will be involved and then on the outside of the folder there will be a specially designed picture so that will be a result of a competition that will go to the children in the village and the committee will be responsible for producing and printing the activity packs the committee also support and coordinate the activities of the other community groups either on the day itself or holding a fundraising event for one of the Queen's charities later so the events will be advertised by flyers, posters, banners word of mouth in the hope that at least half of the village will take part in some way the total project cost is around £20,000 of which £667 £57 has been requested to produce 500 activity packs and the remaining amount is hoped to be raised through sponsorship from local businesses the parish council agreed to contribute £2,000 for the security at the event the local community group has said that as a local member of Gamlingay she is very pleased to support the application so yes, over to you I suppose my question is what is the permanent memorial from this this will be the activity packs which will be a lasting legacy that people can keep and it will include pictures and as I've mentioned already recipes and all the sort of crowns stories and history of the past so it's a lasting legacy that people can keep so which is the folder it's the folder with all the activity things in it yes I'm less sure but I'm happy to hear other people speak we didn't specify it had to be a bench or a plaque it just had to be something that was available thereafter so Peter so I'm not really very happy about it because I do feel that things like envelopes packs of those sort of things are not necessarily kept in memorial but I will go with the committee John I was waiting to hear what the committee felt about this because I have to say I can't see how an activity pack fits our criteria I can understand if it was if it was a souvenir it contained a souvenir such as a medallion or something to commemorate it doesn't do that it suggests it's a pack to help people celebrate the jubilee which doesn't really meet that criteria I'm struggling with this I wanted to hear what other people thought whether they also felt that an activity pack met what we were asking for I'm struggling to see how a pack with party stuff actually meets that criteria I'm going to take the feeding from the committee which is one of struggling and so what I would like if it's okay with you I'm going to go back to this group and ask them if they are going to perhaps swap out or replace or even add to their breakdown and what the folder contains maybe something in there which we would constitute as a permanent reminder it could be a medallion, a coin as supplied by the crown's office I think it's one of those areas or anything the magistrates want to do are they going to do something like that because most of this will probably end up in the recycling at some point I know it's only a small sum of money compared to their whole project cost but it's principle I suppose so they've got time to go back and come back again so we're happy to go on to the next one yes please, hardwick 32, Hardwick Parish Council they would like to mark the Queen's Jubilee they're collecting some trees on the recreation grounds along with a jubilee plaque they're also organising some social events and insulation of something within the village to remember the events they've mentioned that the village has grown in size with the construction of two new recent developments and that there's a lack of good outdoor notice boards to communicate information to residents and the Parish Council have obtained a quote for a commemorative notice board the cost is £1088.88 and there's a notice board basically includes delivery, insulation and a plaque total cost of £700 is requested and the Parish Council have indicated that it may pay the difference if it's successful with the community chair's committee today so £700 thank you I'm in favour of this I think a decent notice board is really important and if it can be made and placed there as part of the jubilee celebration I think it's a good idea and I think they really need to have enough funds to buy a decent one I'm getting nods from my two colleagues and the lead member for finance OK, let's bear with me let's go on to the next one which is great Shelford on page 33 so this is a Parish Council consisting of 12 members and they would like to install a commemorative bench on the recreation ground over the past few years the Parish Council's worked with local community to ensure that this open space is truly available for all residents and a haven for peace, tranquility and wildlife and it's not just a space for sports users and this bench would form part of the master plan to reimagine the recreation ground they want to put it by the river near an area of wildflowers and a small... sorry, not corpse, corpse I apologise I don't want to be involved in that the bench will be made of recyclable materials available for all members of the public free of charge a total cost including the bench, anchoring kit tamper resistant fixing covers and a memorial plaque is £983.17 including VAT £700 has been requested through the community chest grant and the Parish Council have confirmed that they will pay the difference as well as all the labour costs Councillor Nick Sample is in support could I ask a question please absolutely please do we've got more benches to come and notice more to things people going to... community is going to put little plaques on the same that they were provided for the platinum jubilee and in a way it's a historian I suppose I think it that we urged that to happen so that we know so that in the future people know when these things were put in place and why and that's what we're giving the money for isn't it do you mean that they were part funded by us or the fact that part funded by South Cubs District Council in the platinum jubilee year 2022 I just think it would be good to do that Peter I had a similar comment and I made a comment to a number of my Parish's that it is commemorative bench so I'm kind of assuming they'll commemorate the jubilee and that they got a grant from South Cubs I think that's only fair I thought that was our policy that anything we gave like that should have a mark we can confirm that just so they can agree to that when we send out the email so that's not a problem we do it anyway but we can emphasise John you got any comments? that's a yes then okay so page 34 then rating parish council they consist of nine members this is to purchase ten cherry trees to form a glade to commemorate the Queen's platinum jubilee this glade is in a parish council own field which is accessible at all times for residents and visitors alike funding requested from the community is £427 to see the trees, stakes and ties they've got a village handyman who will plant the trees and help they've got a volunteer villager as well who's a professional arboreal culturalist and the trees are quite small the garden centre is informed the parish council chair and they will be easy to plant and they are bare rooted and in pots there's a nearby water supply and they are watered if the weather is dry councillor Sue Ellington you are entirely supportive of this and that's £427 for the cherry trees thank you and all was that professional again? right well friend right having it's roots very family in horticulture and they really do enjoy their green spaces and I would support this and they will look after it they won't let it die brilliant I'm going to give it to you yes I think I know what Sue is talking about the cherry trees can be a bit thirsty but I'm sure they'll take care of them Clare I'm happy with this OK the next one is Waddon parish council this would be another bench installation in a central position by the village hall overlooking the recreation grounds Waddon recreation grounds attracts many visitors from the surrounding area due to its large playground regular fixtures and dog training sessions on the green the bench will be inscribed with the tribute to the queen and used by all hopefully so again that could be something that we could re-emphasise about SEDC funding so the bench cost is £620 including VAT and then installing the bench on a concrete base is £150 the parish council have confirmed that they will pay the difference if they are awarded £700 from the community chest councillors Sally Ann Hart and yourself councillor hails your in support certainly are I know exactly where it's going lovely little spot I can't endorse this enough as you can see and my colleague Sally Ann Hart is exactly the same can I just make a general comment companies will be doing very well out of benches this year I think and I just note that there's very different prices for the benches I'm presuming that that's because they're some are smaller and some are bigger I just don't know whether you know it's just it's noticeable that there's a huge variety in cost I suppose the good levelling thing is that they can only get £700 so they can spend what they like so they can spend what they like that's a yes please Emma okay on to next one page 35 which is willing in the parish council there can consist of 15 members and they would again like to purchase jubilee bench the parish council have worked hard over recent years to improve facilities by way of adding equipment trees seating and soon to be completed wild so that's a yes please Emma so a bench will enhance the existing provision for members of the public to enjoy this ever increasingly popular facility the park is open all of the time and it's very accessible to residents from neighbouring villages as well and this bench is a stainless steel bench which obviously you can see that the price is reflected the fact that it's stainless steel a little bit more expensive probably about £1614 and they're requesting £700 through the community chest and you can see the picture of what they are hoping to have put on to inscribed onto the bench delivery as well as included in this one and a kit to secure it as well and also they've just made a little note that a lot of the seating purchased by the parish council is recycled composite material or wood but in this case that they wanted to include the stainless steel bespoke bench because it was more fitting they believed £700 that they would request thank you comments colleagues fine by me I'm very happy I like the idea of having one that's really bespoke probably made by a local blacksmith it does look really nice actually with the design okay that's another yes then thank you okay so that comes to the end of the actual applications that we've got we have got a request for a funding exchange on page 37 so this is from high friends of histon and impington community they were funded COVID recovery funding of £1400 back in May 2021 the initial intention was to restart specialist exercise classes and add a specialist exercise classes dedicated to those living with long term COVID but after publicising attendance was pretty low activity was paused while progress was evaluated and relaunched in October but still no success six sessions have already been provided at a cost of £170.10 being the cost of the instructor the net amount of £1229.90 remaining the group have asked if there is any other suitable COVID recovery projects that the funds could be used for and they've given us three options as an alternative so the first one would be something to support some parents the several parent online support sessions were provided in February and March 2021 and they attracted locals around 50 village parents follow up support has not taken place since and there's a general feeling that many parents still have many concerns this project would use a community play therapist to deliver three in person workshops in the summer term and specifically for parents who are suffering anger anxiety and the building up of self esteem in children and that would cost around £300 which includes venue charge and workshop leader fees the second project is a village mental health event so in January 2021 I find delivered an online community mental health event which was attended by 20 people and featured a compelling talk for Ely and this project is for an all-person event at the end of March to include three speakers Tony himself also a local mental health professional who will present tips and tools to manage feeling overwhelmed in the new working world and also the community play therapist who will present about managing family COVID anxiety and that would again would be around £300 including venue hire and the third option is a new specialist exercise class currently they have organised an exercise class on a Monday for older people and those are covering from strokes and this class uses specialist instructors from the Ely based charity called POSABILITY but it's nearing its maximum capacity so the remaining funds would allow for a second specialist class to be set up with an initial three month periods but this time for those living with Parkinson's disease so the total project cost at the moment is £1,229.90 or less depending on the options so there's three projects to consider there yes so thoughts please Right so they've got this £1,400 left and they've got £1,229 so these three projects aren't one or the other they're actually all three of them or if you wanted to you know depending on what you thought I mean I've got three crack and little projects really I think I don't have a problem with this at all I don't know about colleagues so lead member for finance doesn't so Clare, Pete soon Yeah I mean it's one of the most interesting sets of plans and especially Covid follow-up so I'll be very interested in the outcome and whether this is relevant also for some other parishes later on Yeah Yeah I feel exactly the same I think it would be really good to see how these go and whether or not and if they are very successful then whether or not they can be this kind of thing can be adopted in other places I think it's a good it's the three taken together a good range of events Wow, wow so Very much in favour I think they could be a pilot for all sorts of other projects in our district In that case Emma, that's a yes from us Mark, could you compliment the team who brought this forward to you Of course and say thank you very much the three projects they're talking about are innovative and that we are very impressed and that we would be very grateful if they could give us a break down at the end of their project or as they go along as normal but with special attention to this because we see these as things Yeah I think they might be another one for a workshop potentially if this is something that they would like to sort of promote to others as well in the district I think that would be really positive Okay that's brilliant, thank you very much Cheers Okay so leading on from that one if you refer to appendix A1 on page 39 this is a review, a criteria review basically on defibrillators I've done a little bit of research into defibrillators we've had a few queries from parishes wondering why defibrillators aren't funded so I thought I'd just do a little bit of reading and then we've had a few sort of meetings on this and it's decided that we could bring this through for discussion basically in the past the British Heart Foundation used to part funded defibrillators and they've put a COVID-19, they've paused their offer and so there isn't actually any funding that's available from them at the moment the cost of defibrillators is around between 800 and 2500 and we've obviously because of the nature of the rural location a lot of the parishes obviously the time taken to get to a doctor's surgery or a defibrillator if they haven't got one could be crucial in survival so I basically would be to sort of open it up to see people's thoughts on if this could potentially be included I'm supportive of defibrillators but I'm also very aware that they are quite expensive to maintain because you need to change the battery and you need to ensure that they are in working conditions suitable so it does cost whoever puts them up additional costs rather than just buying the defib and although there's an awful lot of publicity about how wonderful it is whichever football it was who got brought back to life and people brought back to life I think the public also needs to be educated about thinking in terms of whether it is right to bring somebody back who I've met two or three people who have been brought back and who said what the heck did they do that for I was really it would have been much better if I had been left alone because the rest of my life has been awful so there's a whole lot of ethical issues that nobody really digs into I think I hear what you're saying I suppose from a a dispassionate point of view trying to choose my words carefully from a dispassionate point of view I just wonder the defibs tend to be used for people who are kind of caught short unexpected I mean we have one at the hub in Melbourne and we've only got one in Melbourne so we could argue there could be one or two more and what have you so I'm kind of on the other side of the trap in that one myself John Williams Yeah can I just explain to you where I am on this because Emma and I have had a discussion about this I've taken up Cease Point first of all I think it's probably for the local community to make that decision whether they want a defibrillator or not and not for us I personally don't have a problem agreeing to include defibrillators in our criteria with the same criteria though that we have for parish councils i.e. that only the smallest parish councils can apply for funding because my own experience we have two defibrillators in Fourborne actually one of the recreation ground and one in the high street but they'd be funded by the fourborne parish council and I think I don't see this being any different to any other funding in that we feel that because parish councils aren't capped the largest and a medium sized parish council if they want to do this they can go ahead and do it and they can increase the precept to do that but I do appreciate that we should apply the same criteria regarding small parish councils that we do for all grants and allow small parish councils to apply for this but I would add and I take on board what Sue said because we did have an unfortunate incident with the one in the Pavilion which apparently wasn't working or didn't work and I would suggest that if a small parish council does want us to fund the defibrillator that they also have to provide evidence that they are going to maintain it and that they have the funds to do that before we agree to give the funding but otherwise I think that the defibrillator should be included in the community gesture criteria but again as I say only for small councils John, I've got some criteria to go along so I'll come back to you in a second, Claire, if I may this is a very important point that John brought up with regards to maintenance Melbourne's DFIB was registered with the ambulance service because we got the ambulance headquarters in Melbourne there's a system they now use which is like an outside agency and you register with them and they then badger you for a weekly or monthly test so you don't have to comply through that process because you need to know, you have to put the dates of the pads in, you have to show the batteries being checked etc etc etc all these other bits and pieces it's not just the DFIB, I believe all DFIB should be in a public space in 24-7 accessible you can't be shutting a building behind a closed door and only available during working hours so you will need an outside case which has a power supply to it because that case has to be heated at a certain level otherwise the gel packs the pads on your chest go brittle and they don't work so you'll need a power supply, a case you will need the extra spare pack of pads you have to have those in there whether or not you go for the juvenile ones but they don't necessarily recommend that and as I say it has to be public with your blessing John I think we would through the community chest perhaps say we will fund the DFIB the actual piece of kit up to a level but you as the parish will then undertake to maintain it and provide all of the ancillary equipment the case, the fitting of it, the power supply I think would that be what people would agree with colleagues an evidence evidence of having the ability to carry out that maintenance check at a regular point and that is an ongoing cost absolutely Clare you are first of the queue well I'm just wondering actually how this has come up because I would have thought that across the district the great majority of parish councils have defibrillators which they have funded, which parish councils have funded so yeah maybe people are shaking their head and saying no I would have thought actually that funding them through parish council is the most appropriate way to do it but that's my view anyway but others may differ I'm going to come to John Clare but actually I think this is something you know we did with the mobile wardens game you could argue that community groups would get on with it I actually think this is something we should encourage John Yeah can I say the reason this has come up because Longstow applied to defibrillator I understand Longstow is a small parish council and would qualify for funding and it was refused on the grounds that we don't fund defibrillators and this is how it came about Okay Yeah I'm prepared to be advised by others who know much more about this but a number of my parishes already have defibrillators the parish have funded those themselves it's considered as an essential thing for them to have in the local area one area we may be able to help I don't need to think about the criteria in what we do is ongoing training, triplo this week we've had training in dealing with those people who've experienced cardiac arrest we had a local farmer a very young farmer who experienced cardiac arrest and survived after going to Adam Brooks so I just wonder and have asked the question at all my parishes how many people in the parish do have training you know we're not talking at dozens of people it's just there's a critical mass of people having to train so that if an incident takes place it's not just one or two people, somebody may be on holiday somebody may be ill, it's a group of eight or ten who are available so I'd just like us to think about that but I think we have to apply the same criteria that larger parishes as we say with community chest should be able to raise the money to do this and provide it and then we look at the smaller parishes so that's your answer Emma Thank you and I'm assuming that applies to normal community groups as well not just the parish councils exactly the same criteria in respect to the normal general community chest so in non-profit organisations as well not just your small parish councils they can apply to I wonder if it's worth colleagues looking at John as well that we do an audit about villages and towns that we have within South Cams just as a matter of interest A, it would perhaps by doing the audit advertise to the smaller parishes that we're doing this but B, it would also give us a picture of the coverage of DFIDs across the area as far as parishes are concerned I don't think there's anything wrong in us doing and off the record you know as part of our community planning to talk to parish councils and see if they have DFID leaders and basically ask them how they manage them I would not want us to be in a situation where we could be liable if something happens and the parish council says well we did tell South Cams this it's not our place to be responsible for the provision and the operation of this equipment so I think we need to trade very carefully I think as part of a fact finding survey by the community's team to find out basic facilities in each village for example and we could ask the question do you have a defibrillator and how is it managed but I wouldn't want us to actually get involved in the actual provision and operation of those defibrillators because it could lead us to be liable if something goes wrong so we need to trade very carefully That wasn't the intention of the audit but essentially what's our exposure or likely exposure Well that's Emma's careful wording Go from there Thank you Emma, is there anything more to do on that? That's it now isn't it? That's it, thank you Is everybody happy colleagues? John are you happy? Right, in that case is Catherine still on a call Is Catherine got anything else or is she okay? I am indeed still here, all fine thank you Will the decision sheet for you now? We thought we could catch you out and have a coffee or something I've been listening and there was no walk with questions as well either was there I just want to say can we have two decision notices to the community chest please one for the alterations and criteria The community chest from today, thank you Right, in that case then so thank you very much from us to you online and we'll see you again shortly but the date of the next meeting will be 29th of Friday 29th of April of this year at 10 o'clock Thank you That's it, thank you very much and thank you to members of the public for watching in or listening in