Good morning committee nice to see you all It's the first time the session Thank you Off to a good start So I'm here to talk about H 496 that was introduced last year in 2019 this is an act relating to bias motivated crimes and misconduct And I think this is the first time the committee is taking it up this year. I think we went through it briefly last year So it may look familiar to some of you Yep, so I'll be glad to get started So I'll just preface it by saying the first eight sections of this bill our amending existing law in the discrimination chapter and The hate crimes injunctions against hate-motivated crimes chapter and it's essentially just making some word tweaks So I think we're gonna go through those pretty quickly The ninth section is a new Is it would be a new section of law? And with associated civil penalties, so it's been a little bit more time once we get to the back of the bill That was as it was introduced last year So section one this is we're starting in the discrimination chapter, which is chapter 31 and title 13 And you'll see that what we've done on line nine is just add the word or bias and you're gonna see this throughout We've changed we've either added the word bias or we've changed hate motivated to bias motivated throughout this chapter and the next chapter to provide that conduct that is Prohibited that's motivated by bias as opposed to hate is also prohibited So it's the next change in section two like I said hate motivated has changed to bias motivated crimes And then it's also on line 18. We've removed the requirement that conduct be maliciously motivated so a person who Commits a crime and that conduct is motivated by the victims actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin sex, ancestry, age Service in the service in the US armed forces or disability sexual orientation or gender identity is Subject to these additional penalties on top of the penalties that are Imposed because of the underlying crime that was committed Oh Thank you, friend the difference between hate motivated and bias motivated. I guess How could that be applied out of the real world, I guess, you know, how would What's the difference Charges go I Think that I mean the charge would be the same I think the words, you know the plain meaning of the words are what you really look at in a situation like this So bias is different than hate because it means that It's motivated by a prejudice Against or for a particular person or group of people as opposed to hate which Sort of indicates that the conduct is more maliciously motivated as as the statute says So it may apply to sort of a broader Yeah, just a follow-up question that I'm sort of is this was the is the intent or was the intent of the The people that introduced the bill is this a sort of a Language modernization thing or will we finding hate? Difficult to prove and so therefore putting bias in I think it's the former that this is it's an acknowledgement that This conduct is not as can be Motivated by bias as opposed to actual hate Please correct me I don't think that Changing the words hate to bias is the more substantive change Yes You're right. So that is a that's a specific sort of element that the Prosecutor would no longer have to prove that that was a malicious motivation for the conduct No, I yeah If I feel like we discussed malicious and another bill once and it makes sense to Use it if you can okay So thank you for that clarification. So the next section is section three. I'm on page three now We've moved to chapter 33, which is the following chapter and this is the chapter that provides that there is civil relief for people who are victims of hate motivated crimes and Again, we make the same changes here Change hate motivated to bias motivated crime throughout the definition section And if you turn to page four section four throughout the commencement of action and hearing section Page five is juvenile defendants Just a technical change there online 12 and then on page six change again changing hate motivated to bias motivated Same thing in section six. This is the relief section. What reliefs the court can order Just changing those words throughout Section seven service Same thing there and section eight provides is a penalty section And we change the words there as well. So now I've gotten to section nine. This is a new section of law violation of constitutional rights and the associated penalties So this statute is modeled after a similar statute in Massachusetts and I've for the definition section I've drawn on our some language from our stalking statute So some of it may look familiar to you So the first definition is repeated harassment or intimidation So that means Engaging purposefully in a course of conduct that's directed at a specific person That the person knows or should know would cause a reasonable person to fear for their safety or the safety of a family member Or the person who's undertaking the conduct should know knows or should know will cause a reasonable person to suffer a substantial emotional distress and emotional distress can Know it's been the questions Remember the answer The conduct knows or should know what does I just want to should know me Should knows means that a reasonable reasonable person would know So I'll just keep going there what substantial emotional distress is evidenced by a significant modification in a person's routines Including moving from an established residence changes to daily routines The cause serious disruption in a person's life or That is pulled directly from the stalking statute And then move on to the course of definition of course of conduct and this is important because Course of conduct is in the repeated harassment or intimidation definition. So we're we're separately defining that here Again, this is this comes from the stalking statute Two or more acts over a period of time however short in which a person harasses Intimidates threatens or makes threats about another person or interferes with another person's property And that applies to acts conducted by the person either directly or indirectly and by any action method device or means And we've got that all-important sentence there that constitutionally protected activity is not included in the definition Of course of conduct so that's sort of a Way of of saying this statute is not intended to get any activity that would fall under the first amendment right to free speech Yeah, it just means could be Could be right it could back a court could interpret that to be as long as yes I think a court could make that interpretation on its own You said this that language comes out of another yep that comes out of the the existing stalking Again, I'm not looking to change you I'm just I Can follow up Eric worked with this committee on the stalking statute I think you did a sort of an overhaul two years ago of that statute, so I'm sorry, I don't have that. Oh, did you okay thought you need history, but I will I can follow up with him Let's see if you remember Yeah, and I might just be misunderstanding or something like that, but can you give me an example of a constitutionally protected activity that would also be harassment but not Problem, so there's the constitutional the obviously this the constitution protects speech But there's certain types of speech that are not constitutionally protected an example is the true threats If you if a person knowingly places another person in fear for their safety That is typically considered a an area of speech that is not constitutionally protected So by putting in the sentence that you that you're not going after constitutionally protected speech It allows the court to say the legislature's intent was not to get at this activity. That's constitutionally protected and it will typically not undermine a statute on its face for being unconstitutional if you've got problematic But still be protected not see demonstration. Yeah I think There's a there's a there's a broad range of activity could be I'm not sure I'm the best person to talk about what would be problematic, but Right, right definitely demonstration So my place the Confederate flag on coaches from long that would be considered harassment Being that we're on the record. I won't say what might happen You know the right right, but what if I carried a Confederate flag at a rally that would be constitutionally covered You know you're right, you know to do that But not on my property right, you know, yeah, you know, it's that's where the line gets crossed You know is when you do it directly to someone versus Your shit, you know, this is this is my thing so to speak and You have the right to do your thing as long as you don't bring it to me I So one thing I'm wondering is do we ever define reasonable person because I know When Tom asked about it, I feel like frequently there's discussion about well what if we have to diametrically opposed Views and we're both reasonable people like how do we Or how does the court look at reasonable person? The court looks at it in terms of the Circumstances so how would a person your average person respond in this particular set of circumstances and We don't typically define it because we don't necessarily want it to vary between one statute and another and I'm thinking of this is sort of a silly analogy, but like Whatever that game show is that's like our studio audience said and it's like you usually have very different Views that you know, maybe two or three views that a large group of people have so Are you thinking about it in the context of whether or not a reasonable person would be placed in fear or Well, I know we got into that with stalking quite a bit. So yes, it could be that or a reasonable person is offended by it where A court might say Well, that's silly, you know Like I just want to make sure that it doesn't give enough latitude for a right and I think because the What a reasonable person has to be put in is a pretty objective standard like if the person has to be put in fear Or the person has to be Suffer substantial emotional distress, but you you talk about what that means specifically if a reasonable person would change their The way they drive to work Or change where they're living Those are pretty objective Circumstances, okay, as opposed to whether or not a reasonable person would Feel a certain way about something feel right, okay And I know there's that like Excel skull kind of category of people like okay They're super sensitive or you know, it causes them to have a heart attack or I mean we're that's in tort law though Okay, so that doesn't okay, right. Thanks So Barbara Good question that I had but also How do you define what a reasonable person is nowadays Well, again, the court's interpretation the court sort of makes Makes a determination about whether or not a Person that an average person would feel a certain way under those set of circumstances So I'm not sure that the court actually uses a definition of what a reasonable person is It's it's just sort of a framework for thinking about whether or not it was appropriate for The victim to feel a certain way under a certain set of certain circumstances so my original My original question was don't we already have a lot of these laws already in place For a lot of this format already in place. It's just been Expanded as the world changer or as society changes what's allowed and what's not Or how it's looked at now compared to in the past I'm honestly not experienced in this area much at all. Thank God. I've never really Been exposed that much to it. So I thought you know, I thought I needed that But in terms of Right Right. Yeah. Yeah, so this this is different than Sort of the stocking statute or other statutes we have because it provides a different relief So we haven't gotten to that section yet, but it's a it provides for a civil penalty. So it That's something that we don't have that doesn't exist currently in Vermont statute that it gives a person a remedy of Seeking a civil injunction against a person who's harassing them and also it allows them to go after damages If they can prove the elements of the prohibited conduct Yes, I think that was a good So I guess one of the things that Well, there's two things and I'll wait until the the penalty portion to discuss You know that But when we think about You know bias motivated Incidences What is real scary? is when it's at the juvenile level and What people experience almost daily and in one of my other lives One of my colleagues Came to me and said coach you wouldn't believe what I heard on the bus and it was kids, you know using the n-word and and One kid on the bus Took it really hard The other kids that were involved in this this little male melee Said that they were just quoting rap music so for an Administrator You know, it's easy for the bus driver to say look, I'm stopping about you guys either, you know, stop this behavior Or whatever, you know, you can stop that piece But when you get to the reporting part to the school administrator in the school administrator looks at the film Because you know all of the buses have cameras now, you know looks at the film and goes oh my god How do I separate? You know, what's really going on here because it becomes really difficult but With this hopefully After you do your investigation, you know as a school administrator because you're required to by law You will come up with more findings because we will give them more tools to work with Okay, because right now the kid could put very easily just say yeah, I was listening somewhere I was just and That would be it now With if we are able to get this through and it's not so much what happens on the other end It's more of the learning piece You know that that goes on People will have more tools to work through the problem And that's what this is really about The activity is not included with Really focuses on Free speech rights, but but then we're also talking about Protecting an individual's exercise of enjoyment Includes the Vermont Constitution and the Vermont Constitution for instance One protects Individuals have the right to liberty acquiring possession Property pursuing safety And there's right to religion there's free exercise of religion free speech There's a lot of rights that are liberated in the Vermont Constitution as well So ultimately though I think becomes a battle Protecting those rights of the victim And then of course free speech rights So I don't know if that helps but that's kind of what the intention of Also reasonable person as long as we're not looking in DC it's pretty easy Okay, so I'll move on to the violation section I'm at the bottom of page nine now subsection B So this is the Privated conduct no person shall through repeated harassment or intimidation. That's the definition We just went through willfully injure interfere with or attempt to injure interfere with or oppressor threaten any other person in The free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to that person through the Vermont Constitution Or the laws of Vermont or the Constitution or laws of the United States so Importantly we've got the mens rea element there of willfulness So the conduct has to be intentional conduct So I'll move on to the penalty section I'm a person who's injured as a result of a violation of this new section has a private right of action in Superior court for injunctive release the rising out of the violation And for each violation a civil penalty of not more than $5,000 plus reasonable costs and attorney's fees Also provides in subsection D that a person can get a protective order if they can prove by a preponderance of the evidence That the defendant did violate the section and then subdivision to there talks about how relief is granted for a fixed period And the court can extend the order at the expiration of it of the original order For time that it deems necessary to protect the plaintiff or the plaintiff's children And all of this language is lifted directly from the section on injunctions against hate-motivated crimes The relief section where you can get a protective order there as well So that's all the same kind of same kind of requirements for the protective order Right Yep, yeah, so you talked about that a little bit last year with the abortion bill There are places in our statute that provide that a person has can bring an action on their own without the Attorney General for example representing them for civil relief in Superior court So that there's in our consumer protection laws We have a few places where you can have a private right of action again the abortion bill provides for That the new abortion law provides for a private right of action and So that's here as well so The idea is that in cases where I just want to make sure a couple things if the AG's office is representing them It's probably not in a civil matter Right there are there can be places where the Attorney General would would Would represent a person in a civil matter, but it would have to be specific Specifically set forth so this does not provide that the Attorney General would go after somebody so anyone who Wants to take advantage of this either has to represent themselves Or get an attorney and go through the process right and I heard you saying I was looking for it if the Person is found guilty they can get court costs. Yes. Okay, because that's one of the things I'm thinking of it's usually Court costs and attorneys views And I'm assuming there are attorneys that will take a case. Well, I don't know will they take a case What could happen is right like they have to put the money out first and they're not able to Use this law Right, there are my understanding is that there are attorneys in practice who will take the case without being paid until Relief is awarded and obviously they have to think it's a case that they're going to be able to One question so aside from changing The the wording from hate motivated to bias motivated. Does this have any other effect on the criminal path? right, yes, I We've taken out the word maliciously So in the hate crime statute Kind of removes that element that the conduct has to be maliciously motivated and just provides it has to be motivated by the person's protected status So So the tape and others Representative of our seems Point a little further So in the criminal side Both can still be used as far as hate or bias I think that bias is Would sort of encompass hate I I think that My interpretation maybe it might be better to talk to a prosecutor about this But because bias is sort of a lower standard than hate it is necessarily included Thank you Well, I guess just Just a quick point In thinking about that little example I gave of the school bus I do drive spare school bus so I run into a lot of situations with folks and So a lot of my colleagues will you know like ask questions? What do you do with this and what do you do with that and I Really believe that The adults in the room need tools and But then again, we need to let them know what the tools are that they have to use but When we look at a reasonable person Most people are, you know, fairly reasonable, you know, I'm giving it, you know, I'm going You know, right, you know, I'm going Or we would hope you know that and So, you know taking that as the you know, let's say as a first step You start to wonder You know, where does this come from? You know, because When you talk to the kids Some would never even go there Whereas others feel it's okay to go there and so you say, you know, the the question you ask is Why is it okay? and then what in your Sensibility makes you think that that's okay to go there, you know to hurt another student let's say and And it can be on any topic because you know, it's it's all of the protected classes, let's say and You see that, you know, like happening and and some people do it just for you know, the attention Some people do it because it's bias motivated and it's a bias usually that is Established somewhere, you know, it goes deeper than just you know something they heard on TV or Something along that line and then it's a little sad when you start to get into it in depth It goes back to the family and you know, that's That's that discussion that people have a hard time having sometimes But when you're let's say a school administrator and you bring the parents and To start to do the investigation after you've met with the student and then it becomes eminently clear where that behavior came from and And and that's why you see and you hear from constituents Reports of not feeling that they were treated well, you know in a school setting Over a discipline issue and Usually when it's something that is related to you know, these types of issues that's where people You know start to split, you know that line pretty quickly So anyways that that's a lot of what the you know the background piece of this is and you know as you talk to more people you hear more stories and So having tools that that help us In any of those settings and it could be just about anywhere That that it can occur Especially if we're in any of the helping fields, you know, you're gonna see it And or service So it becomes pretty Pretty important To make sure that people understand that Some things just aren't right and aren't cool to do to each other. So anyway That's kind of the background Thank you Just we're gonna have to give you frequent flyer I do hope myself here That's right They would share with the Attorney General's office. So a couple things I wanted to State upfront the Attorney General's support for the goals behind this bill absolutely supports What is motivating this bill which is to protect people who need protecting and For whom our current system doesn't always work and the people who are subject to these incidents don't always feel protected often don't feel protected by By the folks who are supposed to be helping them which includes people in government like our office So I want to be clear on that I also want to be clear that I am not my office's foremost expert on these issues and Well, I am happy to entertain some questions and give answers where I feel comfortable doing so Julio Thompson is really a true expert on these issues. He has national Insight into what's going on around the country and I so I will and I apologize But I will defer some of those answers to somebody who's going to be more useful to the committee and has a lot more Expertise than I do on this stuff. So I just want to be upfront about that as well But I can give you that clear policy statement We support the goals of this bill and we will get our best expert and he's very good into the committee to Answer more detail-oriented questions about the constitutional balance of some of these measures And he can tell you a lot about what other states and jurisdictions are doing with this Maybe it might be helpful if you could share with the rest of the committee some of the work that the AG's office has been doing at least with the With the database for Bias crimes Sure. So one morning. Yeah, and with some one of the things that committee members have probably may have heard about and is a Bias incident reporting system, which is a Fancy name for what is effectively a phone tree, but an important phone tree a phone tree that needs to be Established and where the calls need to be made and the idea basically is making it clear that Incidents that involve bias whether or not they rise to the level of a crime are being reported up to our office And vice versa our office when we hear about things reporting things down to local jurisdictions In the past we've found it often is the case that a Local officer may encounter some incident There's pretty clearly some bias behind it. It may be as obvious as a racial slur or religious slur and It doesn't you know, the officer assesses it doesn't correctly Maybe assesses that it doesn't rise to the level of a crime and says well, that's that you know No police action here. We're done and what we're really trying to do is say for all those incidents The agent's office needs to hear about it so that we can ensure that other that we Can assess whether we can do something about it and so that we can make sure that other authorities around the state and Are hearing about that as well So that may include the Human Rights Commission certainly will include the Human Rights Commission in many cases It may include the federal government as well The Vermont US Attorney's Office and that's because those offices all have powers to enforce that go beyond criminal enforcement So even though local officer local states attorney may not feel like they have jurisdiction because there's no crime There are civil enforcement actions that can be taken either by our office by the Human Rights Commission or by the US Attorney's Office So that's a really important system and it's not just reporting up but also You know reporting to each other making sure that we are hearing about what you're hearing about where that's appropriate I may not always be appropriate, but where that's appropriate and Just making sure that there's good communication as part of that certainly tracking what we're hearing The FBI statistics on hate crimes May not be complete because reporting isn't mandatory on those issues and so just being sure we have our own Understanding what's happening in the state is important. So that was maybe a longer winded answer but hopefully but I think that's helpful, you know in everyone's understanding of you know, how important not not just how important it is but How we have an opportunity probably is the best way to put it To try to mitigate those instances in our own state You know and and sometimes you just have to take control of the of the beast because that's that's what it is and You know the one of the driving pieces here, too is with that communication Sometimes what you find out is is that a particular incident? although as David said It might not rise to The AG's jurisdiction But it might cross into let's say the Human Rights Commission's jurisdiction where Because they Don't have jurisdiction over housing. We have jurisdiction over housing and a particular incident might have affected my ability to stay in a certain community That affects my housing You know and that's that's my right to be able to live where I want to live and You're infringing on my right to live You know there and if I can pay for it and do all of those things I should be able to live there and if I'm being mistreated There are laws to Mitigate that so anyways that communication is really critical and and that goes holds true for all of the protected classes Because what you start to see in some of these cases is is that you know Weird people are usually equal opportunity weird people, you know, so and I use that term to kind of identify a group of folks that are bias motivated and They'll they'll pick on anybody The database sounds great, I'm wondering how people know to Contact it so For example parallel justice commission Assuming Because there are cases that we've heard words not it's actually law enforcement saying or the systems being the ones that are making people feel uncomfortable and so I'm just wondering how Like can a citizen call up and say This just happened to me or they really need to go through some channel No They should not feel like they have to go through any particular But I also think that you're raising a really good point and I don't I'll say plainly I don't think that we in government have done as well as we could in terms of getting that message out there that You don't have to go through any particular channel and call the AG's office directly call the Human Rights Commission directly Maybe you do have Somebody feel comfortable with them open your town or county authorities structure Call any of those people and the idea here is that there will be communication within sort of on the inside to make sure that the Bright people are dealing with the issue But I do think we need to do better in terms of getting the message out there So are there materials that your office has or can generate like because we're always passing on like here's some free tax help or here's This resource and it just seems like a really important one for us to help Yeah, I agree. And I so this is Thompson, sorry, I'll be able to answer this better. I know we did develop some stuff a couple years ago or a year and a half ago Maybe that was intended to be distributed to law enforcement around the state. I don't know the status of that That was more civil rights or units project But yes, there have been efforts to try to get that information out there and one thing that we've really found when we've done our forums around the state on The issues of bias incidents is that There are often local entities like non-profit entities not always government entities where people do feel comfortable I think one of the lessons that we've taken from that and I think all Sort of government actors to take from that is work with the leadership of those entities Because they may be in contact with folks who aren't comfortable going to authorities But often the leadership of those places are people who are more comfortable And are they contacting you with that data? I again, holy, I'll be right again. That's a great point is like making sure but yeah having those sort of intermediaries where it may be that the folks at the top of those organizations are more comfortable moving in those worlds and can be a Go-between a bridge And right front and center on the Vermont doc page or something. Yeah, that's a good idea I think that's a proud. That's an issue that is real and we need to work on. Yeah. Yeah And I and I think that sometimes, you know, and and I think we've all sensed that the You can hear testimony on something Like this and all of a sudden you go. Oh my goodness, you know, how can we do it better? You know or or not so much better. How can we get that word out? I remember hearing testimony about the Our advocate Our medical advocate and they got you know recognition this morning and I don't know how many calls you get from constituents about health care So to be able and now, you know, at this was your couple of years ago after I Heard, you know from Mike Now you had a point of reference that you could refer your Constituents to and kind of pass the word if you do have a problem these guys will step up and they do in the Advocates office But anyway That makes sense I'm noting Yeah, that actually is something that my fissure said all of us All right, thank you Good morning, I was a lot less nervous than I was like two years ago Thank you Good to see you all too for the record Brenda Churchill with the LGBTQI Alliance of Vermont And I wanted to pick up on a theme that I heard when I was listening to the legal Definitions and Barbara. I just sent you a memo that came from Captain Scott who I had a good conversation with yesterday about The reporting and the incidences and what's going on and since part of my testimony, but I'm kind of gonna jump around here One of the things that occurred to me When I was driving down here that isn't in my testimony is let's say I'm I've been a victim of being harassed or somebody in my community has What's the mechanism that they can go to now the pride center is obvious You know they get calls all the time so they get referred into the system But I have to realize that it is me that's going to be filling out the complaint. It's me that's going to Go into court. It's me who may be representing myself because As a protected class of folks or a marginalized community I may not make enough money to hire a lawyer and I can't find the the pro bono attorneys That may be out there or I don't have the resources to do so and then I'm sitting across from my accuser Or or my with the perpetrator of the crime to me. That's a pretty intimidating circumstance I don't think there's a lot of people in my community that would feel Really comfortable doing that without an advocate or somebody going with them That just came into my my thought process this morning and it was an aside I'm going to just skip the recap of who the represented who I represent But it is a consortium of now six lgbtq mission driven alliances and within the within the state of vermont I'm preparing for my testimony today. I spoke with members of my community I spoke with boar yang I spoke with captain gary scott and former representative kyle morris I did so that I might gain some more insight and have a broader view of what has Led to seeing this bill brought to the house floor and hopefully the governor's desk to be signed When introduced the vermont coalition for ethnic and social equity in schools sent a letter to ask folks to Make sure that we joined in the discussion at least from the standpoint of of who stakeholders were for Putting this law forth I'm not sure that I am aware of who those people were or if there was ever an inclusion Within the context of the committee to make sure that our voices were heard but Overall, I think with the reviews both the legal reviews and the thoughts of mr. share I think I've got a pretty good idea that it's it's it's okay Personally I've been witness to hate speech that I hope you never have to have directed at you or a family member My friend christine hawk was stood up to a relentless stream of hate mail hate speech And direct confrontation every day of her campaign and for a long time after Threats on her life her family her campaign staff were reality reality that we had to move past I want you to know that she read everything That was addressed to her By email or in letters she was extremely motivated to move beyond the hate and actually seemed energized by the vitriol that we All witnessed Our friend former representative morris a judiciary committee member has also been the target of hate speech And it has affected her life and her family as well I do not need to go over the well-known and publicized details of how that story continues to unfold Both of these people Christine and kaya are extraordinary humans They continue to show us how to move past the ugly underbelly Of our current society Both of these people who I call friends have been deeply tragically and continuously assaulted by others Who saw motivations seemed to be the disruption of lives of people who are different than they are According to statistics provided to me by uh Captain scott and the vermont state police We are seeing an increase in the hate and bias motivated crimes being reported And to the point It is Awareness and training and community building that law enforcement officers receive They're likely to bring those statistics up because now people are reporting them and they are meeting a threshold of Bias, but they may not be criminalized or In violation of the law per se This This really is probably the crux of this is is that the training that the vermont state police is instituted on part of the fair and impartial policing board so I Hear all this and the statistics are fresh and and It is it is really encouraging in a bad sort of way that there is now more reporting being done because people are Officers law enforcement officers, particularly the vermont state police are aware Of what they're looking at and as that trickles down to other departments and other law enforcement agencies You may indeed see see this as an increase in Both reporting and and actuality The change in language in the addition of civil penalties h496 now has what it seems to have been lacking The I'd ask the committee to consider an addition to the penalty part Of this act to include a diversion program if possible so that The community the offenders can be accountable to the community And a way to help restore offenders in a way that allows the courts to have greater latitude and enclosure In closing I'd like to say that this bill goes in the right direction This time really has come to show unity and support for anyone that is the victim of this level of bias and hatred All marginalized communities deserve protection the lgbtq ia alliance of vermont supports this legislation Thank you The diversion program Thanks, um, basically, there's currently a diversion program that exists for folks who have Either minor offenses or offenses that don't rise to Well, maybe even do rise to Rather serious crimes that allow them to make reparations to the individuals in their communities I'm not super well versed in that but I have known people that have participated in local boards that have Brought people back to the community in a way that is meaningful to both the community and the individual So I'd I'd actually not answer the question as fully as I might if I knew it, but it's a good question Yeah, I guess I yeah, I was just trying to understand I would think and we can hear from the state's attorneys That the criminal portion that we have in here changed the device won't be applied in such A version is already an option. I mean that's available there Yeah, I would hope that the the judges in Across the state would have that latitude to bring people to a different or an alternative thing Especially if it's a first offense or in the case coach of minors that may be involved in In that I think those are are really Better alternatives than enacting civil penalties where Maybe people can't pay anyway Right so Yeah, so you're speaking I guess you're you're addressing more Yeah, yes Well, it could be it could be but let's just you know say that maybe that isn't what fits best In that case if we're not if you're looking at a civil thing I might say well, I'd like the person to apologize publicly I'd like them to maybe do some community service work. I'd like them to join a pride center For a few meetings and get to know the folks that they were harming A lot of these things are I'm sure wrought from ignorance And education can overcome that So Under this Oh, I'm sorry, so um, I think what you're talking about Might be um The restorative justice programs would probably be a great vehicle for that and um Right, I don't know how I know that a lot of them are busy and we want to make sure that they have the right, um training and tools to be effective I also So I I like that idea because it really does seem like it's going to be more beneficial to Just giving someone a fee a fine or incarcerating them Which made me wonder about people who are incarcerated who are experiencing This information and making sure somehow that the um prisoners Rights group is again actively Providing that information to prisoners I also wonder if it would make sense to have like some kit that people get that would say Here are lawyers that are willing to take these cases Or other information so that it makes it as Easy as possible for people to go forward or Yeah, I I guess I appreciate your point about it being both intimidating and expensive That's a great idea. Um, and I know that the pride center does offer legal counsel To people and they have several lawyers that are not Just on staff or not on staff but are part of their board of directors and many times We stop short with saying oh, let's put a package together that would would help this because we don't see it every day But sometimes we do see it every day and sometimes people just aren't aware Uh, that there's resources or places to go or people available To seek that recourse. I think education On all levels within the community within my community and the resources that exist now would be a really good idea Thank you well, uh to martin's Uh point about civil versus criminal and Uh, I was thinking the same thing as barbara As far as restorative justice We use that as a discipline model in schools now Not all of the schools are doing it But at the the last school boards association conference We had uh, several school districts bring their model for restorative discipline To the conference. So we're doing that at let's say the education level and It's been incredible having students involved in that process Because they're learning a different way to deal with everything So it would make sense to me if there is a way for us to embody That as another part of the continuum of options You know that are available For discipline And education basically it makes sense to me But uh to your point name it name it Yeah, exactly Get the possible, you know gotta figure out how to do that Eat your comment on this The purpose one of the purposes for this provision in the last provision you can talk about protection That's harassment essentially is a situation where somebody is running into these problems and And you don't find that you have You get appropriate from your perspective Relief from from law enforcement because it could be because the criminal Side of hate crimes, bias, mortgage crimes, etc. It's a much higher Bar to to hold somebody criminally liable there's also tighter restrictions as far as what behavior can constitute a crime If you run into constitutional problems and the fact that it has to be a true threat for for Certain kind of harassment to raise to the level of the criminal Offense so this is put in here to try to give an additional Avenue for an individual who's faced this kind of harassment and Nothing happens in the criminal justice system And we also specifically put in The reasonable attorney's fees and costs to try to Because I understand going to court is a pro safe way because difficult We can't really in a civil action offer your Attorneys that really anybody just that that's not something that the state can find But putting that in is is intended to hopefully be able to get something to help in this civil Contact so you know so that's the concept behind that I mean, I guess I if you comment on Whether this is valuable to the community having that separate Avenue to try to get some to get some justice outside of the criminal justice system That's a great question. Um My thought goes to both the the victim and the perpetrator and the socioeconomic spectrum that we're looking at within the context of our state and not Anybody else out of here, but Let's just say that's not realistic. Isn't isn't the judge a lawyer? Can he offer a different? Path restorative justice being one of them Some sort of diversion that allows For no lawyers or money involved, but yet provides an answer or solution Without the added cost or burden of him to go to court and prove All that maybe it's it's very simple or very cut and dried. I know that Yeah, I mean, I think there's a couple and again, we'll get some attorneys to But I think there's injunctive relief is available. It's possible the court, you know, I'd like to understand from the court or attorneys who are dealing with this more directly What kind of injunctive relief could be offered? But there's certainly one of the civil laws who brought there's an opportunity for Settlement as well and certainly in the settlement context it could be It would be to go and restore the justice for But I'd like to you know, we'll certainly look for testimony from some folks who are In the court system on that You know, I don't know if we're going to change or disincent behavior through this law I think we're still going to see these crimes Both reported and perhaps even on the rise given the current climate I'd love to see something that May gave people a heads up saying, you know, if you do this you're screwed or this could happen But there's no No way to put it ahead of when this crime happens. It all comes afterwards Yeah, this is really I think centered on giving In that context, yeah this works Appreciate it So so I guess as we look at that Spectrum of witnesses we might want to have the Vermont bar Come in I carry a bunch of these cards with me Because every once in a while you run into a situation where a constituent, you know has a problem and You're not offering legal, you know advice, you know, you just say look It would be handy if you speak to a lawyer and and they have this system, you know, and They do a lot of pro bono work and You know, it's kind of the Vermont way So and and I'm I'm proud of the fact that our bar association, you know, like has this You know this tool, you know for Vermonters who Don't have another way And they kind of feel up against it and then this can kind of help so That goes back to that thing that barb bought up about the kid You know, and I think that's one of the things that it's nothing we can put in a bill or anything else But it's one of those recommendation things, you know to our advocates as far as their pages go You know, they need to kind of build in to that That capability what to do with You know And and what the options are and resources are I think that's how If we just say it and call it out, you know, it might be helpful You know, because I I know I'm going to mention it to a few of the other groups we've been working with I don't know Good to join forces now Happy to sit down with it Yeah So you I think you were right to say that typically our restorative justice practices are in the context of crimes and Hormone justice, but I don't think that means that you can come up with an idea about Fuddling people who commit violation of this new section or maybe the hate crime section to restorative justice center And you could broaden their jurisdiction here or to interact with offenders So it would be more of Looking at the Statute with respect to the instead of what restorative justice can do as opposed to something in here. I think both Yeah, I mean, I think on the Am I right that on the criminal side of this that avenues over there? Yes, that is correct And in fact, we automatically divert as you know, we automatically divert young people Right Great to get restorative justice in Thanks, everybody. Thanks. Good to see you Do we have a list of who's coming later? Is We're starting back at one


Good morning, everyone, and welcome. This is Melissa Armell with the Stock Swish. The market gap down today, and the spine is falling. And so is everything else. This was a great call. In fact, I saw this would happen well before today. So I was on Cheddar October 22nd. It was actually this day. In the morning, I said you could see a scary sell up in the market before the election. So this is it. Back, let me pull up the clip here. Play it for everyone. To open at last number of people for whether it's hospitality, restaurants, or even the consumer brick-and-mortar shopping, these businesses need people to come in and shop.  So I think Congress is gonna pass a deal. But I think that it needs to happen pretty quickly after the election. But I think the market could sell off between now and the election period. If the deal doesn't get done, we're hanging by a thread today. And you said, well, that's hard to believe, Melissa, because we almost made new highs the other week. Yeah, that's true. But the fact is we did not make new highs. And we got so close. And in my opinion, we should have just gone right up over the high. And if they had been able to pass the deal, that's probably what we would have done since they didn't now the market's just facing out here, waiting to see what happens. And we could possibly see a sell-off and I'm not saying a hundred percent, but I'm saying we could maybe see a scary sell-off sometime between now and November 3rd. There, this is it. That's exactly what I said. This was a great, great, great, great, great call. This was a phenomenal call. I've been calling puts in the options letter all along the way.  I mean, every single trade that I'm calling is working lately.  Two, I'm watching charts all day long because I'm in the house. And three, because this has been so tricky, because it's been so tricky, I have been very, very determined to get it right by double triple checking myself in the gap rating. So what I do is I get up in the morning, I rate the gaps, I read the gaps and I'm not getting tripped up on this. And I think a lot of people are getting tripped up in the market, getting tripped up in what's happening here. They're confused, they're going long, they're going short. Remember, volatility is something where you think something's going up and then it goes down. And again, in the reverse, you think something's going down, then it goes up. That's what volatility is. So a lot of people thought the market was going to continue higher here, here, here, here, here and even yesterday, because I'm just going to go to the cues. The cues were green yesterday. We closed green yesterday on support, on the 50-peer movement average. And people thought that, again, we were higher and they thought that we were going to hold the support. And then they woke up this morning to this. Okay, so what I do is technical analysis. It's technical analysis and gaps. If you want to learn what I do, I teach it in the golden gap course. If you just want to get the options, call us, sign up for the options letter. So it's available to you to sign up and this has just been a phenomenal, phenomenal week.  We're finally seeing the follow through in things, which is a great sign and it is earning season. So if you're interested, email me at melissatheswush.com and watch for my next TV spot soon. Have a great day everyone.


securities to the forefront of it's mind i'm going to overload it with it's own anxieties as i cast tosh's hideous laughter oh no i don't want him to laugh i just want him to scream oh god oh my god i love it why have i never thought about this with tash's Nathaniel's saying good fuck you you pull out all it's insecurities it's fears it's think all these memories bad memories and it flinches for a moment but shakes it's head violently it makes the save oh wonderful oh no well i look irritated because it chose to succeed against me and instead i'm going to like point my thumb and forefinger at rene i trust you and i give bardic inspiration to rene inspirations back to the v and then i'm going to move right here what's up how dare you not just fail you succeeded well that's not what i wanted at all that's not right that's not alright luna well i know you want some people alive but that doesn't mean all of them right so i'm just going to go over here that's 30 feet i have a couple things i'm going to do this is going to be a process so bear with me the first thing i'm going to do is i'm going to burst into a pillar of light as i activate my radiating consumption so put that in put that in the chat so both of these fuckers are going to take radiating damage from me because they are within 10 feet of me alright how much 3 let's take i'm going to go ahead and take off the 2 i do as this overwhelming glowing light just erupts in a pillar it looks like it's going to burn her skin it is so intense it's pouring out of her eyes and mouth her hair is shining that took my action though but it's a really cool thing i'm a fighter no it looks fucking awesome so first we're going to bonus action bring back shadow boy hello nice and we're going to do a couple things i'm going to action surge to get my action back it's only just dawned on me that we have 2 asmr fighters we have 2 asmr fighters and 2 bars hahahaha yeah so action surge to give me my action back and we're going to unleash incarnation once more and i'm going to take an attack against each of these people nice one for me one from the echo i'm going to attack this guy with retribution and the echo is going with absolution and i'm adding the radiant damage on top of it they take 3 additional radiant damage for every melee attack i make that's 21 to hit to 4 disdude and absolution let's go that's enough okay the first one you move in sync show me retribution that is 9 plus 3 radiant damage nice we take a big swipe at this elf this elf is into their robes and their chest they grasp into their chest where you slice them they're on the ropes this half elf though is just fine, dodges out of the way of your echo that is my turn for now but i've already taken it off but everything within 10 feet of me i believe takes this damage additional damage yep, this elf is clutching and breathing heavily yeah, that's my turn and renee you are on fire okay, i am inspired i thought you were going to fight 3 of those goblins all on your own but then i realized you got your own back just having you stood next to both of them like, oh it's 2 on 1 no, it's 2 on 2 it's 2 on 2 baby renee actually is going to pull out her dagger and she is going to take a swipe at the dragonborn the dragonborn, yeah okay and there's a reason for this i do have inspiration, so thank you for that welcome i don't think it will help me but 12 fortunately a 12 is not high enough damn it it is able to parry your blow bonus action bardic inspiration just be like well, time to see how you doing the group just after renee as you turn to inspire me you see the gears on the eyes turning okay i am going to 6 right about there and i am going to take a shot at this dude okay, nice, that's enough holy shit fire pierces through and the elf falls over dead because i killed it i get a grit point back oh yeah so i now have one of my grits back nope, that's it, that's all i can do okay next is the spine of death's turn the orc is nearly completing his ritual lifts both his hands in the air rise rise and the ogre's body starts to twitch oh no you might want to get rid of the guy casting the spell oh god i will handle this this half elf noticing that he is now outnumbered is going to disengage and move close to the orc that's a smart idea that's a smart idea that's a smart idea, i think that's a good idea and this dragonborn is going to take a swipe at urinae with his sword oh god or their sword, i guess i can't decide on their gender oh yeah, that'd be too pretty easy listen, just hit me you take 5 slashing damage did he just hit you again? oh yeah, he just hit me again oh dirty slashing damage as the sword you try to hold off the blows but it's fatiguing you each swipe is heavier than the last oh, i'm not looking good what is this drop what would this drop be? that drop is 20 feet down you can see the little measurements up here that i put next, Nathaniel, your turn there are a couple things that i need to do don't worry about me don't worry about me, it's fine urinae the child i know i'm going to thinking fast i'm going to look at this guy over here let me make sure i've got my range i'm going to look over at the goblin orc orc, it is an orc, yes hey, you! he's trying to concentrate as best he can but he does hear you you can see his ear flicker a little bit i hiss into the air for a moment your battle is lost join us kill the dragonborn to prove your allegiance to me and i cast suggestion on him oh, shit! wisdom saving throw so it acts on its turn, right? yes, it will and i would really prefer it if he failed give me the Christmas present please, just like well, i guess christmas came early yes! yes! is now following your suggestion to the best of his ability urinae, did you use your bardic? yeah, i used my bardic i'm going to throw my last one at you because it looks like you need it alright, that's my turn your turn alright, well, i'm not going to step on Gainsby's toes here i'm going to let him continue to control this boy but there's another problematic one here so first echo, yeah, the echo can be there and it won't dissipate the echo is going to move to about here then i'm going to move right here dirty dirty i can't unleash my incarnation anymore but i can't bap the shit out of this thing alright, throw me the bats i will what about jojo meme? just like, drink a tea and then Charizard starts stopping this dude out no, no, what i'm going to do is i'm going to do this from the echo side and i'm going to have take stood that far away, because i don't want the damage from my radiant consumption to knock him out of his suggestion so, Shadow Man is going to take a bam a bam, and he fails yeah, he does, you both are well, then i'm going to bonus action second win because i think i'm going to need it alright so that's a 1d10 yeah, let me get my heals a 1d10 plus, it's plus what fighter level, yeah, plus 3 can you tell i've never played a fighter? 5 yeah, yeah, no, i'm very much enjoying this alright, renee your turn i'm going to trust Nathaniel in this moment because i'm breaking the kid out of the cage okay no real real role required, there's a mechanism just like on the outside that can easily open it but she has not done so out of fear of course and you can grab her and she will share your movement cool then i'm good because that wasn't an action, i'm going to disengage from this motherfucker okay and start pulling this kid away with me no, and also just as a note, i'm protecting this child so alright, i will say that any attacks on her will go to you is that okay? it will be after i use another spell slot a bonus action healing word on myself yeah, i will please heal yourself renee i'm healing myself, i got 3 points plus your mod plus my mod, which is charisma mod i got 6 points back i got 6 points back yay which is actually really good i'm down i'm so sorry i feel terrible because i could have gotten you out of this situation so easily next turn don't even worry about it, i'm getting out myself you trusted me enough to get out of this situation i got you i am pulling her up the stairs so come with me 1, 2, 3, i can get here okay enok your turn i'm going to see the little motherfucker that was causing both me and renee problems earlier and i'm going to use a winging shot and this will be my attack so that is going to be a 20 i don't think i'll need the bardic inspiration for that and who are you targeting, the half elf? no, i am targeting this dragonborn and also dragonborn needs to make a strength saving throw ooh or else what? so this is a winging shot you can make a firearm attack against a creature you can expend one grip point which i actually just got back because i rolled 20 uh on a hit the creature takes damage and must make a strength saving throw of 12 or be knocked prone and considering that this is a necromancer and very much wizard, i highly doubt it will make it you better knock on some wood for that one yeah, don't jinx yourself don't jinx yourself i would say something like that be courteous to the dice gods yep it seems like you did jinx yourself because it makes the save just fun rene however you do fire and graze kind of like puncture into this dragonborn a bit oh god they stumble back at this and they growl a bit at you and you can see crackling lightning in their teeth oh no, please no not again anything else you would like to do there's nothing else i can't do you can move yeah, like getting out of lightning range 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 yeah that's as far as i can go from here next is a spine of death oh god for the love of pete please come at me bitches oh god one of those bitches is uh so uh half elf is gonna try and shove your echo yeah it's trying to shove your echo off of the well it makes a strength save with mind you see it would be a strength save or athletics or acrobat correct, that's correct up to you, which one i know which one oh no the half elf shoves your echo down and with its one hit point oh it disappeared already cause that took it out of its range oh no it disappeared just in a sand on feathers it's gone and the orc completes its conjuring and orders this now up an undead ogre to attack the dragonborn i thought it was gonna attack the dragonborn rise rise and smite my foes so i guess i'm not jumping on the orcs back then am i committing an act of necromancy if i am controlling the necromancer but not doing it myself i think at this point you're just playing their game oh god you see the ogre's eyes are white and it moves as if it's being puppeteering by something above as its movements are unnatural and not based in the laws of physics it rises up from the ground chest up and goes to smack the dragonborn oh please for the love of god death to the dragonborn death to the dragonborn and it crushes it you hear a difference oh my god oh i'm glad rene wasn't there these three have left of the building they're long gone get the fuck out next, the sannuel return i breathe a sigh of relief because the thing that was attacking rene is gone it's done, we're out of here i'm gonna call out orc if you are left unconscious will the creature not will the creature be destroyed or will it rampage you can hear like kind of almost through telepathically through the orcs mind it's not totally complete yet so the ogre will may return to its dormant state if it is cut off soon right, i have an idea thank you, go to sleep go to sleep go to sleep this half elf cannot be slept because it's half elf yeah this is an orc the orc does go to sleep yay i love it when he does the ogre falls and crumble not crumbles but stumbles to the floor loud thud and it goes back to being a corpse my plan is now immune i love sleep it's such a good spell i am then i should have done this whole time 35 feet away i am going to reach my hands up stretch out all of the fingers as lines of hot bright pink shoot out and connect with the heads of rene enok and luna excuse me, what are you doing i know exactly what you are doing and i am so here for it and i use mantle of inspiration you can use you all gain 5 temporary hit points and you can use your reaction to move up to 30 feet up to your speed without provoking opportunity attacks yup, yes like we can move now yes, you use your reaction but you will move right now thank you for putting me exactly where i wanted to be because i just want to be right here also remember your 5 temporary HP as i reach into your minds and will your bodies to move beyond what they normally can oh the fanyomi and you are going to be good friends rene just is like got a beaming smiley this is all too familiar i haven't pulled out of so many bad scrapes thank god once the spell is complete i break the connection alright yup the orcs connection is gone he's asleep, luna all that's left is this half elf hey so i realized that i can bring my echo out as many times as i want i just can't unleash its incarnation more than my a certain amount of times so uh it's a bonus action to do, that's why it eats your bonus action okay, well done my shadow is going to extend to get in there for a nice little flankity flank after the half elf pushes down the echo, he just laughs hahaha take that and another one appears didn't think it would be that easy would you and uh i would actually like to take a shove action against this fucker to push him down oh alright show me mechanics alright come on guys please, i'm sorry i'm sorry for being cocky before, just give me yes, nice you push him down and he falls i hate adventure and he takes he takes 10 bludgeoning damage oh he's a rough stuff and i'm not doing anything i'm not doing anything but i want to well actually the orc is going to take damage i'm sorry don't worry, don't worry i have a plan, i have a plan he also should be taking the radiant damage too oh then he's dead oh no, he's fried yeah, no, i'm assuming that if this guy is prone to the ground just for flavor's sake i just want to have my sword up to his neck when he wakes up from the burning pain alright, with that i would like you to roll an intimidation see if he surrenders you know, you'd think i had mods and intimidation, but i don't don't even worry about it, listen i have a plan, there's a plan in my brain if you so wish and this is a house rule that i like if you so wish you can add your strength modifier to it that's what some people do that'd be a plus that'd be a plus too, so that's a nine a nine? muscles are menacing dude you hold up your sword up to the just straight at this orc and he bears his fangs at you huh wrong choice okay don't worry, i got it, go to sleep go to sleep, i got to get a second level because i can, go to sleep he will continue to take damage if i'm standing next to him you can always move, right? so she's like, if you with that, because you guys slept him again, i'm gonna say you're out of initiative order and you can move before it does anything okay, yeah, yeah i wanted to shoot him well, unfortunately, he's asleep you can shoot him while he's asleep in the meantime, renee, you're pulling along this this young half-elf and you get a closer look at her and from your guess, she's probably no older than 10 summers aw, baby she's a little baby so as soon as it's called all kind of calmed down a little bit the danger is not immediate, she starts slowing down a little bit and then looks back at the little elf girl and she goes it's alright, you're alright just take a few deep breaths we're here to help you, okay? she's got tears running down her cheeks and neck and she buries her face and your leg she just kind of holds you renee will immediately go down hugging her very close patting the back of her hair can i start? i'm going to turn my consumption off by the way, because i'm pretty sure it's out i would like to start making my way towards the kid while yinoc is going to dome this guy she's just like, it's alright in hopes that even though people might be watching he is going to put the pistol in the back of the head and says one small prayer your crimes against belkaness you are hereby sentenced to death for the practice in raising of necromancy renee's going to hold the elf girl close just to cover her ears too she's hearing that she's not looking yet he's waiting for you to turn her away if not also take her she's making sure the elf is buried in her not looking at all looking at nathaniel dead eyed pulls the trigger you fire, the bullet goes through the skull of this orc it dies instantly the shot rings throughout the dungeon you can still see the faint yellowish glow of the turning years in his eyes my face betrays no emotion as i'm brushing off the soot from this beat bursting into a pillar of light i want to approach renee and this poor little girl and just very gingerly touch the girl's shoulders and give her my healing hands oh yay she gets three points of healing back as she feels this very warm comforting feeling spread from her shoulder where i've touched her throughout her body i drop out the empty shells by the way because that was actually the last shot nice her little clinking onto the floor and yes the wound on her leg closes up and scars as you give her your healing hands easy now it's going to be alright we're going to get you out of here it's going to be fine she sniffles i'm in lies renee will like pick the girl up in her arms so she doesn't have to walk she's very familiar with it so she just like will walk the child up and then like look over at Nathaniel and enok and just kind of sit there and look around and be like i don't think we have many people left for questioning and i don't know how many of your little friends decided to untie their friends outside they probably don't know that their friends are injured they may be waiting up the stairs but i do see something here while you walk by uh yes it is behind a gate however and by what while you walk by from with your passive perception something shiny glistens from the wrists of the ogre kind of catching your eye Nathaniel you see just like from from that little glistening you can see that the ogre's got a bracelet that was shimmering a little light that kind of bounced off of it from you know the dimly lit area and you can see sawpuller engraved on it renee yes the ogre has something around its wrist see with your eyes and i'm going to continue what am i dead me at that luna will offer to take the girl renee if you want to go look at it because from lady will keep child safe she will hand the child over to luna as she's walking down she is basically strutting as she looks up at you and says you are not familiar with certain talents that we have been to possess he is very good at certain talents as i am he knows what my talents are so he is very familiar with giving me certain tasks we don't know you well enough to understand what you're capable of just yet other than aiming something at someone and shooting so can i kindly ask you to have a conversation after world so that when this does happen we can ask you for the help that is required as she cast detect magic on the band you detect no magic on that band however taking a closer look at it you remember sawpuller was the name of the friend of the very rude tiefling you met in belganus that he said went off to chase after the necromancers i grabbed the tag and i just pulled it off of him because of course i'm the only one in the center of this pillar standing on the it's on the ogre that's why i'm confused that's why i'm confused i was confused too oh i'm like yeah what do you mean okay alright i understand now okay so it's ogre yeah it's the ogre as like apologies yeah no it's the ogre that has the band like oh well i was investigating this body okay go ahead i'm taking whatever i can off of this body because i'm a little curious as to what this might have let's do enok first enok you go ahead you find on that body a medium sized health potion which he never had a chance to use a poison dagger and a mask of a cult member of the spine of death wow those those always those all seemed like they would have been really useful against anybody else yeah so i'll take the dagger i'm taking the the what was it again the dagger the mask the medium health potion okay so i take the mask and i'm going to bring it over to the thing in the meantime oh no yeah okay actually let's finish this first as i like start to open this chest if that's alright enok will come over to me with the mask i'll glance over and see it and i'll look up at enok yes because i know you're so good at lying this might be useful for you for you i hand it to him and i walk away i'm going to look at this mask is there anything particularly special about it besides the fact that it's a cultist mask you can roll me an arcana religion or history alright i will roll our arcana yeah doesn't this is not something magical you can probably tell that it's mostly symbolic more than anything i will stare at it for a moment stare at the mask the mask stares back at me and i look at him and i look at me and i look at him and then i will put the mask in my coat i suppose i'll just slide it in there and then i'll start trifling through this guy's stuff okay in there you can see that there are more poison daggers and you can see that there are common clothes presumably that they changed out of into their robes kind of all folded together how many daggers three alright three poison dagger mine yep yep you find a level two spell scroll of what it is a blank spell scroll like it's special spell oh i could put something on it you can probably watch on it i'm going to roll that up and slide it into my coat and that is all you find is this like is this caged or can this just what are the dots i didn't describe it right that is a caged kind of like wall with a door handle like that you can just open okay understood i'll let other people do their things while everybody's kind of moving around i want to be kind of getting information from the girl where she who she is where she's from where she was captured what happened where we might find her mother so we can get her home just um very gently and being very like you know ginger with the child baby she says her name my name is lisa my mom lives by the woods with my brother i was out playing and that man with the scary face approached and took me and i just want to go back we're going to take you back don't worry it's all over all of this is all over i need you to tell me can you once we get you upside do you remember where where these woods were you lived in it i can get you home she just ponders for a moment uh i remember trees how they look and their shape okay good i can recognize them good good that's wonderful and are you from belconess proper are you from outside of belconess or she shakes her head a little bit i live outside the walls okay okay well that now is it down quite a bit do you know how far from the walls you live she shakes her head okay well we'll figure it out don't worry this is all over and we're going to get you out of here we're going to get you home to your mommy and your brother alright she nods and i just like rest her a little bit in my arms and as i'm waiting for everybody i just kind of start very softly humming a little tune just something to fill that space like this very the silent space and while they're all talking just to give her some sort of comfort while we're waiting mm-hmm anything else anybody wants to do before you leave nope no i think we're good alright and with that i think we can call our first session of falconess necron complete our first session is only 5 hours guys so fucking good i promise the future sessions will not be nearly this long no let me know this is so good i'm glad we're with the xr yeah no i'm glad we're with the xr yeah we went on for a while but that's so good for an intro a good premiere so fucking good i love everyone we love so much to talk about so much good stuff tasty


Let's see what we get today on a Wednesday 86 plus double upgrade is back 85.  Oh Future stars team 1 and 2 foot birthday team 1 and 2 captain's team 1 and 2 you can do it two times. Oh Informs to the moon Informs to the moon There we go Two in forms required 84 rated squad 70 chemistry. Everybody's happy now Here we go. It is a scam pain bag day lads. It is a scam pain bag day. Look at that Look at that. You have two informs.  I Would just love a card from foot captains Yori's would be great a Hero captain would be great as well Vamo see a sports Yes, Domitian. Let's go For the spurs on tradable team. He got packed so many times last week, too. I'm happy with that. I know it's a 100k card actually I made my money back Technically that was good value Technically that was good value Emotional fodder sure we'll take that All right, here's another scam pain bag. This is for mr. Brazilian I Mean at least you got captains at least you got captains quags for sure Yeah, let's go man. Not bad. Now you two rated fodder also usable for a Ciri out for a special team Not bad. All right our slime. No way Marcello, bro. We need a Marcello. Come on I want to see a Marcello pop out of one of these Insignia.  That's 200,000 coins. W W technically. All right Two campaign bags or scam pain bags. Let's see fodder at least that's good value back honestly because Jose Fante is oh Yes, let's go man and your ease Bro, I think these are giving out just a little bit better than last week so far I had to say they're a little bit better than last week's those are two W's You're getting the most recent promo cards out of them. Not not a problem way better. Happy I got first It's a good one. Your ease is so bad. Well at least value-wise on the market That's a good pull for what the price of this SBC is You already have Grealish And Dica is who you're gonna take not bad a budget beast. All right second one. Come on captains Wardprouse Nice, man. W Nice untradable item free kicks specialist right there. W man Those were popping in so many of these packs So many of them Okay. Yeah. Oh The Japanese connection Tomi asu and Kamada if you get a campaign bag like this, you should be able to take both cards home You should be able to take both cards with you not just have to take one GGs, man I guess Tomi asu is the play there The fodder connection All right, here we go another campaign bag player pick All right. Mmm. Okay. See there's still some these that are bad though There's definitely still some these that are bad rd. That is very unfortunate. I'm sorry, man I'm very sorry Dominson and no you're both dropped last time we had this pack Hey insin yes nice insin yes nice. He's popping a lot from these packs. That's a W in my opinion That's like what a hundred and hundred twenty K really nice card There's no versions of hazard packable in this unfortunately for you, but who's gonna get Give my captain. Oh Hero captain, let's go There we go boys. We knew we had to get one today 93 milito. That's a 550k card bang That is sick. That's a massive W. See losses W2, but milito One of the biggest hero captain's cards to get an upgrade Plus 10 pace over his hero card got the four star four star and the league change Wow He is very good in game too.  All right. Here we go Is it gonna be a scam after packing milito? W man Let's go Oogo nice always take the spurs player over the arsenal player to by the way always French goalkeeper good links Let's go. Uh, booge. That's the ball.  Where either bro. I think I'll take Coleman I mean, he's higher rated fodder and up in my opinion a bit more usable That's a sick card man. Nice Prem right back ever Tony and links as well Coleman's decent small dub I think so too doesn't really fit your team, but small dub Okay, let's keep it moving.  He's missing skill moves a weak foot one of the two That's probably what I would go with man GGs though. At least it's uh Dobbin's in would be coin wise your value back So I think that's probably the play keep an eye on your cards that are on the lower tier They might drop a bit today and also there's gonna be some supply coming in for foot captains team too Oh quickly into this one Coleman Coleman solid You're about to send it perfect, bro. You just got the worst one shrink how and Gackpo. Oh, no Ooh first owner. Oh, man. You really needed that retry listen upgrade. Look at that Medina Nice team man. K-hill a bombing retry listen Medina swine stiger and Fernandino in there. I rate this team It's different. I like it. Oh two campaign bags for the RTG. We'll open the one on the right first Dominsons technically a W It doesn't really fit your team. I don't know if you want either one of these More specifically do you have a preference, bro? Dominson is worth more, but Sanchez works for me. I think I would take Sanchez All right, John.  Dominson gets packed so much All right, scampain bag. Wow Vamos vamos vamos come on. Oh Das is nicked good Nicked good.   Thanks to Shareplay though, dude All right, so so let's go man. All right campaign bag once again vamos 91 rated fada, which is technically around the price of the SPC. All right second one needs redemption Mateus Cunha and Beaboo. Um Probably I don't know bro. Do you want to be with Five-star week for four-star skills or you want the Mateus Cunha private McCunha, right? Cunha, bro Okay, Cunha it is we'll take the Brazilian so Cunha and Jose Fante Me All right two more Another Davenson Sanchez, bro As long as when I do my second one, I don't get another Davenson, I'll be happy Dubois and Boyata. Mmm All right, that one was just average. Davenson's technically a W though. Everybody's gonna have Davenson, man Everybody first owner RTG. Oh Oh 94 and papi Beautiful. What a squadron man. Love that. That's incredible. Oh, you have a double 86. Okay Okay, nope. No player brick for you.  Give him a promo card in behind this. Please. Please. Please. Please Yes, word prouds bang Nice, man love that Love that. Love that. Love that, bro. Sick gg's Yo, Rowan, thanks for your share play, dude. I'd be very careful with, uh, captain's team two cards Like the paillette you're talking about the booskets. I know they're down, but They're getting packed today. So Um, it's it's supply. It's not panic selling DACA Wow, you don't see him very much Pailla doesn't have that many pages to 120, but I think he's getting bought up already. Oh my gosh How do you get DACA and back-to-back packs? Yo, what? That's kind of crazy A card that we haven't seen all day you get in back-to-back packs. That is kind of wild my man And not in a good way Camping bag it's different than last week though because you can pack foot captains from team one and team two So that's the part. It's a w. All right, bro. Good luck. You have a duplicate salah Are there any salahs available from this? I don't think so Oh, but dem see is Let's freaking go dude Get in a hero captain. I know it doesn't link very well Milito and dem see today. That is a dub. That is a w. Let's go. Oh, man Those are just those are so hard to pack and we've gotten two of them today What do we have here? Is this a campaign bag insignia and quags? Oh If only you could have both if only you could have both it'd be a green link to each other Dang man. Uh, I think I would maybe take insignia Insignia might be more valuable for the position in league than um, Then quags. Oh, hey, our inform investor is back. Inform investor is back. Here we go Doku or ebonyas. Um, I don't know which one I would go with maybe yeah, doku's probably the play He's got his Diego Lopez and he's waiting for a rise He's waiting for a rise.  Actually, you know what? I think we can take the scam off of the name today. It's been They've been decent. That's that's a solid pick right there for as well, bro Informs are are mudded over invested for sure. Yeah, but if we keep having uh, demand over the next week and not as much supply I think you can wait it out and you'll be able to sell them for a profit in the end All right. It's a campaign wonder toot What a use. Oh noon mensh. Yes 330k of psg left back Value That is a dub now that you can't argue with that's a w That's a huge w psg links on the left side links your flashback name are links your marquinhos your compembe Any of the million psg cards we've had in this game po team and boppa to position change center mid Solid it fits the squad too. Oh, you love it. All right. What's this last one you have here an 84 plus This must be from the objective Fat dub man. Let's go Fat dub to me Yes, sir You take that I think you big time take that dude fonte's a w Okay Vlahovic again w W w word prowess and insignia I mean all these guys have been popping decent amounts, but that's a w in my books as well W in my books insignia. I would take insignia as he should be All right campaign bag Selas W in my books, but you took pedro poro. All right That's not a w for your team though Wait, wait, what was that piet from bro? Just randomly appeared What do probably yeah, you're right Mark noble and lamar Okay, there's that So this is a whole uh Put cap. Okay. Damn scarred. Eh ruben vezzo Eh, that's that's all right. That's that's just all right though. That's nothing more than just okay. Honestly Honestly, it's nothing more than just okay Although the piet's sick


Okay, you all have heard me talking about this book over the last two months while I've been reading it and you've been hearing me Say good things about it. Well Guess what? Okay, the short description of this book is it's about an ancient Greek Soldier who was injured in a battle. He has a head injury and he has amnesia He loses his memory after he sleeps at night. So every day He's he's a new person. He doesn't know what's going on and the book starts with the The discovery of a pair of scrolls where he had been writing down everything that happened to him every day so it's a first-hand account diary kind of thing and Gene Wolf is an amazing writer and it's really exciting interesting book this is actually a An omnibus of two novels Soldier of the Mist and Soldier of Aritae the first book It just kind of ends. I mean the author sticks to the premise of a handwritten diary Where it's not it's not ordered in any particular way. Each chapter is only Three or four pages long, which makes it easy to read and it makes it easier to read more And then at the end of the first book, there's the final entry on that scroll and the book ends. So Yeah, pretty good. I liked it. The second book starts off not long after the second one Excuse me the first one where he starts writing on a second scroll The book is more than 600 pages. I was enjoying it and then right at about Page 500 where part three starts I started thinking Wow, this got really slow all of a sudden and after this There's an awful lot of pages of people standing around talking and it's just way too much detail Boring detail that doesn't contribute to the story speaking of story It was about that same time That I realized it was getting slow that I also started to realize wait a minute This book isn't gonna go anywhere is it and it didn't it just ended The the thing about Latros as he's called he has the amnesia And he has to read his own scroll every day to be reminded of What he's doing where he's been and all the the people in his party around him, but he also sees gods He sees magical creatures. He sees Supernatural things going on around him and the people who are with him they know this and They know he's special because of that and the gods that he sees the gods that he meets with they seem to think that there's something special about him, too But that never comes to a head that's never resolved I found the last chapter Confusing I couldn't tell what was happening And apparently there was a third book These two books were published in the 1980s apparently Gene Wolf wrote a third book in the series. It was published only 10 years ago and As much as I enjoyed the book at first. I don't care to pick up the third book Because it's just this went nowhere That's really too bad Please remember to press that like button it helps my videos get seen and then subscribe so you can come back next time I do science fiction book TV and movie reviews all the time and please consider becoming a patron There's a link in the description below


The unclear history may upset many, but nevertheless February 14 is known as Day for Love. Valentine's Day also has roots in the Middle Ages when it was believed that the day marked the beginning of Bird's mating season. A bunch of roses, handwritten notes, letters in the name of significant order of chocolate. These things often come to mind whenever we hear Valentine's Day. So it's safe to say that this is an important day for everyone who wishes to express love on this day and to also share that love with a very dear loved one. So some of us are loveless. But see, I don't know why you guys take love as a big deal. Personally, I got a lot of calls from loved ones. So yes, I am not loveless. So the thing is, I don't understand why people expect so much on Valentine's Day. Like every day should be Valentine's Day. That's a little far-fetched in African culture. Exactly. You see, I don't believe that. Every day, even if you have every day as Valentine's Day, then… It's just one February. February, my day, is for classic. So just for tints.  Yes, I'm really really pained because I didn't expect to be in this position. I woke up in such high spirits. I was like, you know, it's Valentine's Day. I'm going to get a gift and buy the waves. I'm coming on air on Valentine's Day. So you see, God saw the heart. She was planning to bring the roses here, so she rubbed it in our faces.  But, you know, still being that Valentine's spirit. But I'm still there, sure. I'm still in spirit. Please, if you are listening, I beg you, we need a merry back. Serve roses to you. There's no time before 12 midnight. We take a big gift. You know you're safe. But hey, I mean, it's a beautiful day. And honestly, this is just a reminder that, you know, love is the most powerful language that you can ever express or speak. Because, again, sometimes people really do, they do it underestimate what love can do in the lives of other people. Truly, when we love each other, you know, so many things would be done differently. And the world would just be a better place, honestly. And so that's why I love the topic that we're having today, you know, because me, anything that we find the way to, Nigeria and Mataui, we link it up. But let's quickly go round through what we found in the news. I'll start with you and Jay, and so that we can run into our topic for the day. So my topic, my what's in the news is concerning a Nigerian actress called Uluwa Darasimi, or Moshe. I hope I got that right. So an incident occurred, I think on Monday, where EFCC, I read her before the justice of the Federal High Court on two counts, there were two counts brought against her. And one of the counts read that Uluwa Darasimi, or Moshe, on the 28th day of January 2023, at Monarch Event Center, Leckie, within the jurisdiction of this honorable court, whilst dancing during a social occasion, tampered with the sum of 100,000 Naira, issued by the Central Bank of Nigeria by spraying same in the third occasion, and you hereby committed an offence contrary to and punishable on the section 20. Long and short, she broke the law.  You know, I would say, I feel like the, at the moment as we speak, she's currently in KQA prison, being remanded there, until they're able to set her bail. Now, for something like this, in my opinion, why is she, why KQA prison? Why is she in KQA prison? Yeah, try to set an example now. You can see, you can, you see my issue with Nigeria is that we go to, when we go, we go hard. We go, it's go hard or go home. We can never find a middle ground. Auntie, they say no break law. How many prisons do we have? First of all, let's even start from there. Wait now, how many prisons do we have? Right, there's KQA prison, how many do we have in Lagos? We have a few. How many? We have a few. That's the only This is a maximum prison. So where is KQA? They call it a correctional prison, but this is a maximum prison. Well, is KQA not the one located in the Festak area? Which one is KQA? I correct me if I'm wrong. Yes, I think that's true. No, I'm saying it's only two prisons that I'm aware of that we have. One in Ikuia, one in KQA. So where would they keep her now? I feel like the only thing that I'm angry about this story is that it was not only inside that video. So that was where I was coming to. That was another place I was coming because they are different sides of this story. She was not the only one in the video. Apparently even the bride and the groom did the same thing. So I feel like this was a personal attack on her personality for whatever reason, but I think that it's going too far because this is something that a bill can be and should be set almost immediately rather than keeping her that long. But guess what now? You know your Nigerian people, they need a scapegoat. Unfortunately for her, she's the scapegoat. That's why they say do not be caught wanting.  That's the truth. The only anger I have in this issue is that in that party, she was not the only one spraying money. So if you want to do anything, be seen to be fair. That's true.  That's the only grounds I will force them. Be seen to be fair. And this is what I always say with Nigeria. Don't make your law for a set kind of people. Make it up. If the law begins to hit everybody equally, the change that we're seeking, it will happen. Jennifer, moving on. CBN threatens to arrest or jail POS agents charging upon 200 Naira So the governor of Central Bank, Godwin Hemifile, has put out that every POS agent who is charging about 200 Naira will be arrested. And he also said that there was no need to actually shift the February 10th, 2023 deadline. So now that they have made it that you can actually go to the counter, go to the bank, go to the counter with your old notes to exchange it for the new notes that he doesn't see any reason why, why anyone would still increase that amount. So I don't understand the CBN thing, because from the understanding that I have, maybe somebody can help correct me, is that for people that still have the old notes after this February 10th, okay, it's part of your work. Maybe you should just take your notes. So it says all Naira notes are no longer legal tender. CBN declares according to daily choice. He said for the avoidance of doubts, we wish to state categorically that CBN is ready and open to receive all of the old notes based on certain conditions and criteria. Basically, he's also trying to say that customers are free to come to the bank and deposits, which they cannot do at commercial banks any longer. So if you, so you have to go to CBN directly, and he said that the management decided that those customers will have a side of relief by coming to the offices in CBN in altered six states. The customer has to go to the CBN portal and fill a form in the portal. There will be a form concerning the currency redesign and exchange. By the time they've done it, you come with a code that will be accepted from you. It's just a very long process. Which is good, right? So it's not like they are saying that they are restricting that it's no longer going to, but commercial banks they're not touched that money from anybody. So you can't have your old Naira notes. You can't go to the commercial banks. You now have to go directly to CBN. So you think that you are smart. CBN is telling you that they are smarter.  Because they gave you ample time to return all old currencies, but you did not. So now anybody that has currency that is still the old currency, the banks they're not collected, even after the Supreme Court's judgment, because the banks are saying to people, customers that we do not answer to the Supreme Court. We answer to our own government, which is the CBN. So anybody that has old Naira notes, it's not like you will not collect it. They will collect it, but now you have to go directly to CBN. You will make your case and justify why you still had that old Naira note, even when they had time to put in the money.  So my story is actually quite sad. It's a video. I don't know if they can pull out that video. When we say love for people. Yeah. I'm speechless. So this video, right? First of all, when I saw that security man, I know he very well, because this is my former estate in Magodo, Fesujiari.  That kind of data, they are very strict with terms of, you know, so the guy, I'm sure he must have been like suspecting her. So this one, he said, even the security man said, waiting, even if you want to steal, this one is too much. She's not begging and saying that, oh, please, this is where she's working. So this, I mean, at first, I thought maybe it was a supermarket. But from the look of things, it is, you know, the way people stock up, you know, again, people have been panicking the apprehension about the forthcoming election. So people have actually been stocking up their country. So this lady just took all this item from one human being for goodness sake. And we say we love each other. This is wickedness. So I had a maid, right? I knew the maid used to steal because she lives on Saturday. She goes back home and comes back on Sunday. I knew she used to steal things. It's not like I did not know. I knew that her stealing was part out of hunger. So she used to take maybe small rice, small seasoning here, you know, like that. I knew, but I just let her be. Janus that because it wasn't really disturbing me. It wasn't changing anything. Do you know when I sacked her? It was when she started stealing people's human hair and their perfume. Because she stole my mom's perfume.  And I said, no, this one now, this your stealing is beyond hunger. When you used to steal small things, I used to think, okay, maybe because of hunger. But now your stealing has graduated. And that was how I let her go. So I mean, even if you want to steal, some of us that employ these people, we know that they pick things, right? But don't pick the one that would kill me. When I saw this video, I said, ah, hey, it is well. Let's take a break. We're talking more about love. Love, love for us, ourselves and Nigeria. Stay with us. We'll be right back.