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You can now follow me on all my social media platforms to find out who my latest guest will be and don't forget to click the subscribe button and the notifications bell so you are notified for when my next podcast goes live. I'm Boomer on. Hello. And today's guest is the good leader Victoria Harvey, how are you? I'm good, thank you. Good to meet you. First and foremost thanks for coming on. Sorry I was late today, the train was delayed but very good to have you on. Very fascinating as well, a lot of people, you know some of the most powerful men on this planet, you've rubbed shoulders with them, a lot of the men I've spoke out against if I'm honest as well, you're going to defend some of these men which is a great thing also, which I respect. Of course and I'm not going to defend every man but you know I have met a lot of these people that have been in a lot of media scrutiny recently and a lot of people, they just run, you know, they hear the name like as an example, you know, Gillian Maxx was something, they just run for the hills because a lot of people, they don't have the information that I was lucky to get and so that is why I've been able to defend certain people very, you know, with a loud voice and not have any repercussions. I've never had a legal letter from anyone, example, Virginia Guffrey, any of that, I've called them con artist's lies on live television, I've had nothing, every network by now realizes that, okay, she's got to be telling the truth. But it is interesting because a lot of these people who you are defending, every one of their friends and family have run for the house so I can respect that and it takes a bottle to put yourself out there because the majority of people, they do follow a trend and like we spoke earlier, not everybody has the information of what's going on, social media, I can play a part in that, listen, I play a part in that myself, sometimes it's my business to then go with the information that I've had, but you've got to be careful because sometimes that information isn't always a hundred percent. No, of course, I mean, depending, like for me, I can defend Prince Andrew and say, absolutely, this guy is innocent because I am, the witnesses that I have, which we'll be hearing more about the next couple of months, one of them is actually under a gag order by a judge, but once that stuff comes out, I think a lot of people are going to have to be, well, they're going to be very quiet and feel very embarrassed, actually. With other people in the media right now, example, the Diddy situation, no, I don't know, I wasn't in the room, I just can say from me observing having traveled with him on planes and being on boats and being at parties with his mother and his kids. Yes, it's someone trial because they're bisexual. I don't think that that's against the law, is it? There was an FBI raid, they found a housekeeper and two of his kids in the house, like it's not a child trafficking organization. Like, yes, he likes to party, he parties a lot, yes, he might do drugs. He had an alcohol brand. He was promoting his alcohol brand non-stop, actually. You know, if you saw his Instagram before, like daily, Syroc, De Leon, Tequila, does that make him a bad guy? Like, I don't know if he beat anybody up. Before we get into all this stuff, I always like to go back to the start with my guests.  Yeah. So I grew up in, well, I was born in London, we moved to South of France when I was a couple of years old. And I was at a school, French school, till I was about eight. And then I was sent off to boarding school. So I was, I was pretty young, you know, I started flying. I was like one of those little unaccompanied miners with a thing around my neck, British Airways. And I only came home really half term. Ex-Yats, I would go to my grandmother, she lived in Kent as well. But it was a night, you know, I enjoyed it. Like, some people are like, wow, that's really young to board. And it is really young. But, you know, we were allowed pets at school. We had bunny rabbits and hamsters and ponies. And it wasn't so bad. What was boarding school? See, when you go to boarding school. You know, so my, well, I boarded very young. Well, you're lonely, is that? There's a lover you're so used to that life. No, you make, you make very good friends. Like being in that sort of environment and dormitory with, you know, it was all girls' school. I think you, you make those bonds, like really strong. Like a lot of my, I have actually quite a few friends still from PrEP school and my secondary school that I am in touch with. And if I don't see them for a year or two, or even like, I went down to Benidom, my school for, it was like a hundred year anniversary. And there was one of my old best friends. I hadn't seen her in maybe 15 years. And it was like I saw her yesterday. You know, that's the amazing thing about like old friendships and you've been through so much together, you know, we would build our camps in the woods and climb trees and do all these fun things. But I was sent there young because French was really my first language. And my parents wanted me to get into a good boarding school in England and not be at a day school in Monaco. So. But you felt a bit of trauma when you were younger as well. You lost your dad at an early age at nine, is that correct? Actually, I was eight, eight and a half. Yeah, I was, I was really young. I just started boarding school as well, which was terrible timing. I just started the school term. I would have started September and he died in March. And so, yeah, that was really tough. I remember being brought into the head, Mr. Sousa's office and sort of her private sitting room. The prep school was owned by Scottish family, actually. And, you know, getting that phone call, having my mother on the line to tell me. And, yeah, it was it was it was really hard, actually, because at that time, I didn't really have friends that had lost parents, like obviously later on in life, you know, but not really at that age. There weren't many like me. But you're close to your dad? I was, I was really close. I was actually born on his birthday. Hence, my name is Victoria. His name was Victor. So I was a birthday present. So I bet they mean to them with that, I think. Yeah, well, I was like the first girl, first girl in my family for over a hundred years. And my father had had two previous marriages before me, both boys, both very naughty, very difficult. And so I think it was like quite a relief. When I was born, you must have been spoiled or dropped and then being there. What do you mean? The only girl in a hundred years. What? And the family? Just all brothers, all uncles, all cousins, boys or just boys. That's crazy. How you treated them. You must have seen a lot of trouble then with all the family members and family gatherings, if it was just all male. Well, we didn't really have big family gatherings.  But our family was quite disjointed. Just like every family. Yeah. Yeah. They're not alone there. So Stephen, I think you lost. Sorry to talk about the dad stop. But did you lose two brothers also at the start in the first five years? I did. So I lost. I had two half brothers, John Bristol from the first marriage and Nicholas second marriage. So yeah, John actually died about a year after Nicholas. So the middle that he, the younger one died for the elder one. Are you close to them? Not really. You know, I was a lot younger.  And I'm just like losing track of what I'm saying now. Yeah, we weren't very close. We weren't very close. It was, you know, when my father died, there was litigation against the will for a long time. So it was, you know, the family was pretty much at war. Why is that always happening when people die? I know. And, you know, they, they inherited so much already when my father was alive, but people get greedy. Yeah, it happens all the time. And no matter if it's from a hundred pound, a hundred million people, they're always hating on each other. They're just for me, money's a little all evil. It is. And people don't realize that because I always say it, but there's no really any value to money. All the value we give it is up here. And it's true and we kill for it. We die for it. And it's just to listen.  I still enjoy finer things in life. I still do great things with it. But it is a kind of energy currency and people kind of the money is the world is run by greed. It's run by power. It's run by money and money does bring power to a certain degree. But when you actually break it all down, it's we're all got a way of playing field. Know what to do with it, you know, and some people don't respect it. Do you see that obviously later on in life? Because everybody changes. You can meet someone who's starting off to go, he's amazing. As soon as they start making a few quid, the change, something changes in them. It gives people a sense of power, a sense of purpose that they're better than others. It's not the case. Everybody bleeds the same. I mean, I just I what I love is like missing people that you just never even know that they had money and they're just so low key about it. I always like that. But you'll see your Zuckerbergs in there. They do walk about in a flip-flops on in shorts. Exactly. And then you get me. Then in Hollywood, you know, Hollywood, you have it's kind of the other way around, right? You sort of get the sort of the hippie actors that have just got holes in their jumpers and stuff. And, you know, that's a bit extreme. It's like, go get some clothes. Like you have millions of dollars like dressed properly. But one of the best actors I think is Keanu Reeves. Seems to have a clean heart. Seems to be a good guy. Riding his subway, waits in queue, doesn't really. He's really amazing with his staff, apparently, like what I've heard. This one girl that used to work for him, he bought her a shop on Sunset Boulevard. Yeah, he's he's very generous. I've heard that. I'm in Robin Williams. I think Robin Williams used to get the homeless men to play as extras, give them money, give them food, give them hate, unbelievable. And you tend to see that it's the ones who are get the kindest hearts of struggle the most in life. So through school, did you rebel then? Once you lost your father and went through a bit of trauma? The shackles kind of offer, were you? Did I rebel? Not really.  I mean, could you know? Yeah, we smuggled sweets into school. But could you rebel when you sort of bought in schools with a strict? Yeah, pretty strict. Like, so, you know, when I was eight or nine at my prep school, I don't think I really rebelled. Like, luckily, I'm a real animal lover.  I bred my rabbit. She had baby bunnies. And, you know, I think, yeah, a lot of horse riding. I spent a lot of time in the stables. And then secondary school. I don't think I was super rebellious.   I will not do this. But I wouldn't say like I wasn't like dye my hair purple and getting piercings and tattoos.  So, yeah, I wasn't like that bad. Yeah, crazy. Waited till later on in life, did you? I still don't have a tattoo, actually. I still don't have a tattoo and I managed to avoid that living in Los Angeles for 18 years. So I think I did pretty well. Yeah, look, I had my fair share of partying. I think it's sort of like what everybody goes through at some point. And I was lucky that I got that most of it out of my system pretty young. Yeah, do you think being in boarding schools makes you want to try out everything that you've kind of been oblivious from? Because was it so strict that you kind of pushes you away or does it keep you disciplined? Not really, not really, you know, I remember what I was trying to think the first time I ever went to Ibiza. I went with one of my good friends from school. I get this like request from Glamour magazine and it's like, oh, wow, I'm like 18. They want to pay me to go to Ibiza, all paid for and be paid and could take a friend. I was like, wow, this is awesome. So I went, we're one of my best friends from school. We had the best time ever. I think that's probably when we tried Ecstasy for the first time. We were like brushing our teeth in the bathroom after coming back from this club and it was like daylight. We were like, wow, even brushing our teeth feels amazing. But, you know, looking back on it, yeah, school was strict, but it's not, that didn't make me sort of be rebellious later. What'd you do after school? So I had a gap year. I actually was going to be going to uni for four years, studying French and history of art with a language that is four years and I was going to go to St Andrews Exito Bristol. I got into all the unis I wanted to go to, basically. I was sort of like one of those children that sort of fluked their way through exams, revised always last minute. And I would, yeah, we would sit in the kitchen listening to Aerosmith on caffeine pills. And so we'd stay up all night before an exam and I'd somehow get through it and like do really well. I got like two A's and B.A. level.  But the problem is I ended up just having way too much fun in my gap year to then go to uni. Did you get a test for that other side of life? Well, you know, what it was is like, for me, I'd been at boarding school since the age of eight years old. And a lot of these people that I get it, like if you don't have that experience, university is like a, it's a new thing. You get to like, you know, live with friends and all of that. And I kind of felt like I'd already done that. For like the people that had been at day school, like it would have been, you know, a new, a new kind of experience uni. But when I left school, I had this gap year. I traveled around Malaysia and Thailand for about six months. There was a Malaysian girl at my school who was a good friend of mine's far. And yeah, we had a, we had a adventure that was really my first time to Asia, although I'd been to China once, actually on a school trip when I was 16, which we did get good trips at school. I kind of, I studied the subjects where we would have good trips. So like history of art was one of them. We would get good trips on that. Obviously I liked it, but we got to go to Barcelona, Florence, you know, all these amazing places. And so after Asia, then I did a Queen's Secretarial course because my mother was like, right, you know, you need to get some qualifications so you can start working. So I did that. So I learned shorthand. I learned like I was, I was actually really good at that as well. What shorthand? I can't believe it.  Like reporters do. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I learned how to do that. So is that getting so in like, obviously we've got one alphabet, but is that getting its own kind of formula? Yeah, yeah.  Is all there's kind of the same? Have they got all their own different techniques? Yeah, I know. I mean, it's just like a certain language. So I did that. And then I lived in Florence for a couple of months. Actually, I was out five months or something studying history of art in Florence. And I finished the gap year. I met someone who was older than me. Who owned. So I would have been more 18, 19 at this point. He was 35. And we moved in. Actually, I had a flat first just off Sloan Square with two of my friends that I'd been in my gap year with. Then I met this guy after that. And suddenly the idea of being a student again, I started modeling as well. I started earning money. And the rest is history. And now here we are. I have, like I say, what we'll touch on. You have Rob's shoulders with some of the most powerful men on the planet, some even to this day. It's mad. When did you? Because where does the lady, Victoria Harvey, where's that name? Something to do with Bristol. But what's the connection? Something to do with Bristol. Yeah. Yeah, what is that? I think so. Yeah, apparently. So yeah, so my father was the maquis of Bristol. Yeah, what is that? What is that? Yeah, I'm Scottish. Get the insight. Yeah, listen, I looked up when I was coming. Everybody watching this. I looked, I looked it up. Just look it up. I know it's very long and complicated. But you know, so the daughter of a maquis or an earl is a lady. And you know, it's something like at school I never told anybody. I was like, I just wanted to be like the same as everybody else. And my grandmother wrote me this letter. This is to my prep school. And she put lady on it. And I was like, oh my goodness. This is so embarrassing. So then they started asking me about it. And you know, I basically got outed. Then I was Lady Victoria. But I don't think anyone really understood it, you know. Like there would be one board with, because there was quite a lot of kids at my school that lived abroad. So it would all have our flight details. And it would be like my name with niece. But people would think it was nice. You know, niece airport. So yeah, it was something that I was like, oh, I really kind of wanted to hide as a child. And then as I got older, I kind of realized actually, like this has sort of got a little advantage as well. You know, I need to sort of milk it. That was changed though. So you kind of threw that like, if you had your older boyfriend, did you start to get attracted to that kind of party you still own? Yeah, I mean, Men in Power? I think so. Look, you know, I was, yeah, I was 19. I started dating Mone's Tolstrop. He, at the time he owned, you know, the really happening hot spots in London as far as restaurants. He started Daphne's in the collection. And he actually then opened like another two or three restaurants. After that, he had a Moroccan one and then a Vietnamese. So yeah, it was, I was sort of thrust into this sort of lifestyle, I suppose. And I was kind of the baby. You know, I was hanging out with a lot of people older than me. And it's just, yeah, I just started going out a lot. Few years after that, you know, I started writing a column for the Sunday Times. It was called Victoria's Secrets. And then it was like even more pressure to go out because then I was actually having to fill pages of what I'm actually doing. So then it became a bit more of a chore and it would get to that point where I'd be like, oh, I don't really want to go out. Like now, you know, my life is very balanced. And the last time I was living in England, I was in my 20s. You know, I'm now 40s. It's very different.  Was he your first love? Was he my first love? Yeah, probably. What was it, Lust? No, it was actually quite a long relationship. We were together for about three and a half years.   Yes, yes. So I'm a Barbie girl in a Barbie world. Every time I hear that song, I just want to like punch a wall. You must have talked about that recently though, because of the new move it was. I know, I know. So this girl became like upset. Like it kind of like the last year of our relationship, we would break up, get back together. It was sort of like quite tempestuous by the end.  And so kind of, I suppose, during a sort of a mini break and us getting back together, we were still living together. I then get this message from this girl. Lena, right? So we were all kind of hanging out back then because my boyfriend at the time, he was Scandinavian. I somehow, I was friends with some other band members. I set up my friend Consuelo with one of the other guys in Acqua. Anyway, before I knew it, I've got Lena messaging me going, oh, don't come to Santa Fe this weekend because I'm going to be staying in the house. And I was like, what?  I'm like, right, we're going to Santa Fe. This is going to be like, so yeah, I did head on. I ended up like crashing my moped in the sand outside Club 55. It was just, it was a mess. So yeah. How does that knock your confidence for someone, Cheats? It's pretty bad. Yeah, it's pretty bad. That was, you know, and I was, I was very young as well at the time. And that really hit me hard. Like that is still the longest relationship I've ever been able to have. From back then, that's still like the record. I didn't trust men after that, you know? Love is painful. Yeah. It's the, and I'll always say this, look, death and that, you kind of get over. You can handle that. Love stays with you forever. The breakup, the pain of a breakup is the worst pain ever because it's internal pain. It's so deep where you don't really know how to get over it. The drink, the drugs are sleeping with other men or women or whatever it is to try and deflect.  It really does some damage.  I was like 19, he's got this sort of five-year-old daughter, very sweet. And, you know, I bumped into her a couple of years ago. We were still in contact.  And married my father.  So, yeah, it's, you know, I just, yeah, it was just, I look at life and it's just all timing, isn't it? And, you know, we have to go through these things to learn what we don't want. Yeah, but the thing is, we don't really learn. We don't really learn. I try and I don't make those types of things. I try, but it's painful. But it's painful because whatever insecurities and we've all got low self-esteem, those things trigger you for the rest of your life.  There's always something that does to your mindset as well. When it scars the mindset, you can never really hear it. Yeah, I had some really crazy relationship things that happened to me. And then so after that, I had this very sweet boyfriend called Seb and I cheated on him for this racing car driver who then ended up marrying, no wait, Seb ended up marrying his fiance. It's really twisted stuff. No, no, no, no. So the guy, Seb, I was dating who he, so he, I was dating him, this other guy, David, racing car driver, that rings any bells. Not gonna say, but could have the same accent as you anyway. So he was engaged to this guy called Heidi at the time. Anyway, like this whole thing blew up. Like some photographer got like a photo of us, like outside a club. I guess we weren't like super subtle. And anyway, the result was Seb and Heidi getting married like within about six months. Like it was like total like rebound, right? I'm gonna get both of them, you know? And it was just a fling when you know, like you don't marry these racing car drivers. It's like especially at the top of their career, like they're not really gonna be the most faithful type either. I don't know. They always seem the most clean cut them in golfers. Always think they're quite clean cut, but then again, look at the tag on this. Yeah, they're always like if they're proper everything they see on the media is very, it's very clean. Yeah, yeah. I met a guy years later and he then says to me, oh, I'm engaged. I'm getting married like next month. Oh, really? Oh, okay. Yeah. So no, it's all like deceiving.  Exactly. It's just like especially with sportsmen, you know, I feel like it's hard for them because they don't drink or party obviously and they're so dedicated to that sport that they're doing. And then the one time they might have a glass of champagne like after a race gets them like really drunk really quick and whichever woman is there, they'll take whatever. Because how'd they have on Katie Price? She says she was seeing Ralph Schumacher but it came out he was gay. Really? Yeah. Wow. I think he'd only had two partners but the partner messaged Katie Price. He was with Kylie Minogue's sister, wasn't he? Yeah, Danny. Danny Minogue. But I think it was maybe Danny it meant, but apparently it came out he was gay. Really? Yeah. Wow. You know, maybe you sometimes see that like often even if a guy is like super heartbroken, they literally then turn gay. I've seen that happen. Yeah, no. I don't think the heart breaks to do that. I think they were always secretly gay. The amount of people who I answered you. Why are all these men bisexual now? Like I want a guy like a proper guy. Like I left LA like one of the reasons I left LA was like there's no straight guys there. I swear.  No, they're all like they're all just puny, just like wimpy. They're not men, you know? Like where are these warrior men that we're supposed to have? Scotland, babe, listen. Yeah, yeah, I know. We're a real breed. Let's go get some men with quilts.  Breed heart. Listen, this might sound crazy, but I think Alex Jones says it and who else says it? They were putting stuff in the water that were turning frauds gay. And then they were putting in the actual water of actual men turning gay. Someone said, listen, this sounds absolutely crazy. No, no, no, it's true. I've read about that. But because the women take the contraception or whatever it is in the water with the pill, they flush it down. And if they're not to store stomachs, women go out. But it's it's estrogen. That is it, estrogen. So women in the toilet, when they take the pill, the estrogen is coming through the toilet water. It's mixing that and coming straight back through the sink. So apparently it's making men turn gay, turning into women. Well, it's definitely like it's something because this is not normal. Like what is the ratio now of gay men? It's like crazy. This is the gayest, this is the gayest generation of old time. Well, they're promoting little rainbow flags in like kindergarten classes.  I want the rainbow flag and the unicorn. Like, that looks really fun. You know, it's crazy. But again, they've just banned puberty blockers in the UK. And you've seen that. That's the best thing they've done. But Scotland, they've just put out a ban on speaking against trans or speaking against misgender. I thought this is the warriors in Scotland.  Oh, no. It's turning weird. The whole place is turning weird. But again, they're doing scientifically proven now.  Because in their mind, the shredding still in their mind, the stuff that they're seeing and it's becoming normalized. So even all the perverts are watching porn. The majority of them are gay. Don't drink water. Don't watch porn. You will sound. Oh my God. So see when you're rubbing shoulders then? Is that when you started understanding that lifestyle, the celebrity lifestyle, hanging about with the A-listers, were you feeling some sort of empowerment? Yeah. I mean, I suppose the A-lister thing, yeah. I was, you know, like my friends were at uni and I'm hanging out with, you know, movie stars and rappers. And it's just all seemed so fun, right? Like, why would it not be fun? But obviously, like, it just became that was the way of life, you know, and I couldn't get out of that cycle for a long time. It was sort of the endless partying in Ibiza and Central Pay and everywhere else. Reminiscent now? Yeah, I'm just thinking, oh my goodness, the adventures, you know, Brazil and Cape Town and all of it. But, you know, I look back at it and I'm like, yeah, it was fun. And friends of mine that got married really young, I feel like they definitely resented my lifestyle at the time because, like, they were at home with a baby. And a lot of women, I see this all the time, instead of really having a career or anything, they just get married. That's sort of their job. So they don't ever have to do anything themselves, right? The guy just provides for them. They've never even rented their own flat before. They just kind of moved right in with someone and you get the professional wives.  That was never me. That was not what I wanted to do. What was your longest relationship, the first one? Um, probably the longest one was, yeah, about three and a half years, four years. Yeah, I think so. And then after that, you know, I went from dating someone who was quite a lot older to me to suddenly dating younger guys. The table's tall, Dr. I know. So, you know, after that whole mess, I suppose, of Seb and that whole breakup, and then I dated this male model called Nathan, who was really, really good looking. And actually, you know, Nathan and I were pretty much the same age. We were like a year apart. He was on this model TV show. It was called Model Behavior. It was like the first reality show back then. And we met at the Lord of the Rings premiere and he was like kicking my chair. He was sitting right behind me and I was with my friend, OJ, who's a good friend of mine. And we usually like the same kind of guys and he's like, Victoria, look. And I look. And so he kind of connected us after the film and we ended up then all going to Cape Town for new years that year. And then I ended up dating him. But after that, I think for me, yeah, I probably, I look at some of the relationships of younger guys and it's sort of, I suppose I got hurt by the older ones. So then I felt like I couldn't get hurt by younger guys as much because I would have the control. It's a protection. Have you ever been in love? Yeah, I think so. I've definitely felt it for sure. Because it has a weird feeling. And if I always say, if we loved them, then why didn't we stay? Why didn't we work at it?  Because I always get asked about being in love. But I think always. You haven't. What's your longest relationship? 18 months. Okay. That's not great. Is it? How old are you? 40. Okay. That's still young though. Yeah. I'm trying.  It's difficult though. That's day and age. I don't drink or anything. So the kind of limits.  You try to give me love advice.  But you just need to, you know, like I just had this friend of mine and I was messaging him about this event, Cannes Film Festival around the corner coming up.  I don't drink.  Like you can still go to these events and not drink. Like it doesn't mean, it doesn't mean just because you don't drink, it doesn't mean your life is over, you know. So I started Kundalini Yoga about five years ago or so. And that actually really changed my life. As far as like, I spent many new Izzy's. I didn't even have a glass of wine because you get, you get such a high. I think you should try it. Kundalini. Is that what's happening? Kundalini, yeah. Kundalini Yoga. But you get such a natural high that you don't, you know, wouldn't even think about drinking again. I'm sick, she is. Still thinking about it. Because I know who I was when I was on it.  I didn't care. And that was such a good feeling, but it was a depression. When everybody went home, I stayed out. I didn't know where to go. Well, that's the problem is you see, like for me, I was lucky. Like I could, I could party. I could go out. But I always had like that, that stop button. I always had like that feeling of like, even when I was in Ibiza, you know, and we were like nonstop at these clubs, like as soon as it was getting light, I was like, I got to go home, take a sleeping pill, go to sleep. But some people couldn't do that. You know, I have friends that they can't just have a glass of wine. They don't have a bottle of wine. So that's, that's a difference. And that's how you have to learn how to like manage it and how it works for you. But everybody I've seen in that life in their 20s, that very fast paced lane that they're in, they do struggle now. They struggle now with, to be content, they struggle now with peace. I don't know if it does something to the brain or the dopamine levels. I think it does. The receptors in the brain, we are just a constant try. Drugs like kills your brain. And gambling.  And you're kind of succeeding, but you never feel that sense of, Melissa, excitement. You just think, eh, don't really feel anything. Right. You could not become dead. But you were sort of chasing, you just have to find different ways to get that natural higher. Yeah. My dog. I'm just happy with my dog. Sleepy boy. Yeah. You see. A lot of travel buddy. There's, eh, yeah, but it's to find the balance and I don't have all the answers. I'm working to find the answers to that. Just do well for myself, but to show others. This is, this ain't what it's all about. Either all the glitz and the glam and try to be popular.  You would have tasted it first hand. Yeah. A lot of people in that life because you're searching for something. We're all thinking that's the great life. I've been in that life for many years. That's what I always say to people. So like, I've never been that person that has to like have that handbag. I'm not going to be putting these things on my Instagram, right?  Like that is empty. That is like really empty living. Like if all you do is shop and you've got nothing else to talk about. I've never been one of those people and I find like, when people boast about, oh, I'm going to get this new car or this new thing. Well, they get it and they get that high for like an hour or however long because these are like people that are addicted, right? Shopping addicts. And then they crash again. So they got to keep spending and spending because they're searching. You know, the real things that make us feel good, you can't buy. Like you can, these are things that is free for all of us. It's just like we have to, it's like our own self, you know, and we have to feel good. And if we don't feel good inside, buying anything is not going to make a difference. Yeah. But again, we're living in a social media world where we think that is, people are living a better life because they've posted a bigger car of flight, flying a private plane. Everything's all rented now. Everything's all, it's all smoking. It's all for side.  So when I was doing all this in my early 20s, we were legit having a great time. Like there was none of this like, Oh, hold on, let me just do a selfie with someone. Or, you know, if I have pictures of celebrities from back in the early 2000s, we did those photos because we actually, we weren't going to be posting them anywhere. Those are for personal use. Do you know what I mean? Like there wasn't any Instagram and stuff back then. So it was like, we took a photo of someone that was going to be in a frame at home or in a photo album. We weren't doing it to like show off to the world. Now these people, they walk into a party, they get their phone out. They're getting someone who's famous to be in a photo with them that they've obviously like never probably even spoken to before.  They're not experiencing anything. Like I feel so bad for this young generation. Is it generation X? They're just, I just like, they're never going to have what we had. And I feel really bad for them that they're not going to have these like real experiences. Like everything is sort of so manipulated and so fake. And it must be very hard being a child now. Yeah, cause they're like really guinea pigs for the technology now. Spines are starting to bend. We're getting dense in our fingers, we're holding our phones and we're not really living it. And I'm caught up in it as well.  And then like right now what's so scary, right? Like the rates for cancer is like going up and up and up. And like what is that? Is a lot of it, is it from our phones? You know, a lot of people are getting brain cancer right now. I don't know. I try and when I'm on the phone, I just have my phone on speaker and I have it when I talk into it. I never put it up to my ear. But it is really worrying like is it what they're putting in our food? Is it what they're putting in our water? Supply, I know actually EU and the UK, the regulations as far as like what can be put as far as pesticides in our food is actually much more regulated than the US.   Apple cider vinegar, one of the most organic things ever.  I used to drink a shot in the morning, it's good for the gut, it's so good. I know, what was the brand? That was like the brand. I think it was like Victoria Beckham that sort of really put apple cider vinegar on the map. I think it was like she said, you know, that was sort of the routine she did to kind of stay skinny and healthy. So like everyone then did it. It was so good to cleanse the gut, but Bill Gates had just bought over that. And anything that Bill Gates buys, do not buy.  It could be the radiation from Wi-Fi, it could be the radiation from phones, even iPods, stuff like that. But again, it's got to be something to do with the foods, the water, even breads. And then all the kids have got like ADHD. Yeah, it's all labels. Yeah, but any kids are getting vaccines, I think it's the K-booster, the K-vitamin booster. Okay, so while we're talking about the vaccine, so what were your initial thoughts on the vaccine when it came out?  It was made in under a year, a guy from Bill Gates who's no fucking, no qualifications whatsoever. I was still climbing mountains, I was still doing my thing.    I'm doing my thing, I'm nowhere near anybody. I'm staying in nature. Understand the fear factor, understand it well. No, because of course, like in the beginning, we were shown so much propaganda of these people in China on the streets like collapsing and you know, were they all actors, who knows? Look, there definitely was a virus. Like I think the people that did catch this virus early on got pretty sick, like my brother had it early on. And I actually fell for it, like everybody else.  I remember going on a hike in LA with a mask on. Can you believe that? I then turned completely the other way. So that was like March. I remember like almost getting into a bit of a heated argument with an air hostess on a plane in mid-February and saying to them why they're not wearing a mask. Like I was that freak. So I then totally flipped the other way. So as in March, April, by May, I went totally anti-vax, anti-mask, anti-everything. I got my cable disconnected, my TV, and I refused to watch any more news because I just saw it all as propaganda. And literally from that moment on, like my life completely changed. What changed that? I don't know. It was like, I think I was just watching more and more of this propaganda. And it was literally like something went off in my head, like this major red light that just made me start questioning everything. Living in Los Angeles, we had these really bad riots, these BLM riots. I think that was around May. And at that point, I literally saw through everything. I suddenly realized that, hold on, these riots and Tifa is not Trump. This is the other side. This is Biden that wants this. This has nothing to do with him. And I literally like had some sort of epiphany and just like, okay, right. Not watching TV. I was getting all my news on Telegram. I started going to, I went, I traveled around America actually, and I went to a couple of conferences where a lot of professors and doctors that had been de-platformed or had lost their licenses, I went to watch them speak. And yeah, it changed my life. Like I started meeting a lot of people as well that were on the same wavelength, either through my yoga, because obviously like, if you're spiritual, you're going to question more about what you're going to, what you're putting into your body. And the more awake you are mentally, the more you're going to be awake to what they're trying to do to you. It's just question, everything. Question, everything, because we're not scientists or doctors. And when it was just a 99.9% survival rate, I'll take my chances. Yeah, right. We're fair. We're healthy. Yeah, just look after yourself. I think people, and I can understand the fear factor. People were scared. They couldn't travel again or they couldn't go and see their loved ones. I understand it. I'm not trying to bring them down. I say you've made the wrong decision. But I think it's clear now that people did make the wrong decision. I think it's coming out.  Apparently, I saw this clip of someone, Tucker Carlson, had interviewed recently, and they said 14 million people worldwide is an estimate of how many have died from the vaccine. It's pretty high, isn't it? Yeah, that's next level stuff. And you don't know the effects. People are saying it changes your genes, your DNA. I don't know. I don't see what the future holds, but it's all the same patterns.  Possibly. Zombie apocalypse. Every 100 years, it's all the same patterns. If it was, you'd get plagues, you'd get viruses. It's just the never-ending cycle of... What is so crazy is that I understand people that got it in the beginning because there wasn't as much information out. And if you were watching only mainstream media and listening to mainstream radio, you were not getting the real facts at all. It was... You had to start really kind of like digging for that information. I think another like real eye-opener was when they banned the hashtag natural immunity from Instagram. That actually was banned. Can you believe that? I actually did take screenshots of it because, you know, that people that don't realize that you tell them now, now it's not banned. They're like, really? Was it? I'm like, yeah. It was fully banned for at least like a year and a half. Like, I was on a shadow ban on my Instagram for like pretty much most of COVID because I tried to warn people. I even fell out with my own family. Like my mother thought I needed to see a psychiatrist because I didn't want the vaccine, you know? And then, you know, it got to the point. And then finally, my mother, she sends me this text message. She's like, I'll never get another one again. You were right. I was like, yeah, I've been telling you that for like three and a half years. She was in the hairdressers last year and this woman walked in like hands like totally shaking.  She'd been in the hairdressers three weeks before. Totally fine, you know, running in. And she actually told the hairdressers in there that she'd had a booster shot a few weeks ago and even her doctor told her that is a reaction from the booster shot. So now my mother will not have one again. Which I'm like, I thank God every day that she, he, you know, she was in there at that time to actually see that. Because a lot of people, they actually have to witness this stuff with their own eyes. Like they won't believe you. Like I would try and warn people and they're like, well, Victoria, you're not a doctor. My doctor's telling me to get it. And I'm not a doctor. She's true, yeah. I'm not. I don't have it. But you know what? Now my family doctor is admitting to my own family that, oh yes, he's getting people in, vaccine injured. You know, this is- Don't speak about that though. No. My family doctor was getting like 40, 50, quite a lot of the vaccine that we're governing. People are getting free vaccines and other stuff. But you know, this is murder. Like during that time, there was a bunch of celebrities that got paid to put out false information. And when you looked at the videos of them, there's a famous video. I don't know if I still have it, but it was a Mariah Carey one. And you can see that a syringe, there's no needle going into her arm. You know, these people that were promoting Pfizer, they were being paid millions and millions of dollars. Now, if something like that then turns into a lot of people dying, that is murder. Like those people should be accountable for that. But they won't be because they're too powerful. Yeah. Too powerful. Too much money, I think. Pfizer made over $100 billion. And now you've got this guy, Travis Kelsey, you know, this like sort of fake relationship with Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift, he was driving 10 million. Which this is a totally like, this is a really good example of a fabricated relationship in Hollywood. They often do this. They put a power couple together that is basically owned by the powers above. And you know, it's well known, George Soros bought all of Taylor Swift's rights to all her music. He's one of the people that basically funds the Clintons and other politicians. So this is a man-made relationship. It's not going to freaking last. But I think it will be until the elections are over. Travis, yeah, exactly. He is the Pfizer boy. So, I mean, I don't mean any harm on anyone, but it just, when these people do have sudden heart attacks, it's like, I don't feel bad for them. Yeah, that's scary. But this is the way the world operates. Yeah, there was another American footballer that just I read about this morning that passed away. Yeah, and it's sad. But like I say, people are uneducated and it's not their fault. It's not the future of voting it on all social media. Like you say, we're not educating us. So people are going to go to doctors.  I know, I mean, I know that the highest death, like deaths, especially in America, is medical malpractice. More than cancer, more than anything. And people trust their doctors. If their doctor says it's safe to take, I was lucky. I had a doctor that was like, don't take it. But at that point, I was already like, I'm not getting that thing near me, you know. If people are depressed or suicidal, the doctors just fill them up with volume.   And it tells you on the box that you can be suicidal. They're all right, they're suicidal.  You need to exercise. You need to cut off the drink and the drugs.   And if you're still feeling unwell and unstable then, then seek help. You need another alternative. But right now, stay true to you. Everybody knows right from wrong.  But yet we do it because we're living in a glorified world where we find drinking and taking drugs. And I've done it for years. I can only say that now that I'm not doing it. But it causes a big part of depression.  Well, the problem is, especially in America, they prescribe them for all these opioids. Like a lot of sportsmen actually get addicted because they get an injury playing and then they get addicted to these pills. I have a very good friend who passed away a couple years ago. And to actually see someone really going through that, I'd never seen someone actually smoking crack. And I remember going to his house one time. And I'd never actually seen him when he was on a relapse. Like he always kind of hid it from me. We were friends for like 25 years. And I literally had a dream about it, right? So I sent him a text message. I'm like, are you in my dream last night? Is everything all right? We're like literally in the dream. We were on a roller coaster ride. I text him. He's like, yeah, everything's great. Come and see my new house. I go over there. And he's so skinny.  It's like, what happened to you? So thin, gaunt like his legs are like twigs.    Like, you know, people just taking advantage. And then he, he disappears for a second, comes back with this sort of giant bong thing.  I was like, wow, this is like, this is bad.  It was really sad. We finally got him into rehab about a month or two. Then he was sober for a couple of months and then he relapsed and then he died.  But you see that kind of addiction that starts with pills and getting pills in America is super easy. I remember when I first moved to LA, I had to, I had a root canal filling and they prescribed me, which one was it, Vicodin? Horrible. You know, I was like, I just moved from here so I had no idea what Vicodin was. I remember going to then a barbecue that day and there was an actor there that was like, oh, I'll have them if you don't want them.   But for me, it had a really bad reaction. Like I remember like I couldn't sleep all night. I was just laying there almost having this weird out of body experience and wide awake. It was horrible. So I was like, I would rather have pain and not take drugs like that.  But a doctor visit people. I mean, I remember going out to clubs in LA and there was this one girl that I would see out a lot and she would, you know, these people that get so addicted like, you know, when I was giving it, I was giving it actually as a painkiller for my tooth. But this girl, I said to her, because I remember she looked like she was really sweating and stuff. And I was like, are you okay? She'd taken Vicodin and then been drinking alcohol. But she'd done that on purpose. Like that was like what kind of buzz she was trying to get. I was like that. She didn't even like, she looked a mess, you know?  It's not a good look. But like you say, people looking for that escape. You don't know what that is. Yeah. And that's the thing. And that's like you said, doctors for just prescribing stuff, that doesn't help them. That doesn't heal these people's wounds. It doesn't get to the bottom of the problem. And that's what people need to do. And what doctors really need to, you know, these patients, actually, they need to really get to the bottom. I know a lot of people are doing ayahuasca and Prince Harry's been talking about that. And I've never done ayahuasca, but it seems to be like the last frontier of what people seem to take to when they've tried everything. And, you know, you apparently have this like experience. I've done it. Have you done it? I've done it about four years ago. Okay. How was it? It felt like a cult. It felt like another form of an escape. It felt like hocus pocus. I feel as if everybody who'd done it. Did you throw up? No. I went there to give you a list to what to do. Because they apparently give you a bucket to throw up in and stuff. I couldn't stop laughing. I was a laughing Scotsman. Did you do it in Scotland with a shaman? Costa Rica. Oh, okay. I made a documentary about it. I'll send it back. At the time, I bought into it because I'm searching. I'm on that journey. I'm not drinking. I'm not taking gear. Life is good. I'm doing a podcast. I'm making documentaries.  You buy into it. It's the shortcut to happiness. It takes you away from all your fears and demons. I thought that sounds a bit of me that. I bought into it and then I went there. Great experience. I met friends for life. Majority of people have slipped back. I think it's the placebo effect. I think as humans, we all look for guidance. No matter what it is, we'll gravitate towards guidance. Because we're all suffering. We don't really know what's going on. And I've done it. That's when I'm still in a great place. But just it felt very cold. It felt very... I feel as if people are buying into the spiritual side of the ship because it's sexy and now it's becoming more trendy. Everybody's wearing baggy pants and a couple of tattoos.  Doesn't work that way. You've got to really work with fun. You've got to really open your mind to everything in life. And for me, it's...   But I just enjoyed the escape. And because they kept telling me to surrender, they all kept working on me. I had four or five people in my bed at night. For me, surrender's quitting. Surrender's fucking... Yeah, yeah.  It's like, I will not surrender. And they're telling me to surrender. I'm surrendering. So they says that I was fighting against it. That's where the laughing came in because that was my defense mechanism for so long in my life. Laughter. If somebody dies and I go to a funeral, I'm laughing. Were you like in a big group? Like, did everyone... 60 people. And did everyone else have a completely different experience? Yeah. I was trapping balls, man. So you were fighting it, basically. Yeah, I'm a fighter.  I'm in a single bed trapping balls.  And they kept it rubbing my heart. Have you done the toad as well? I've done everything.  What was the toad like? Years ago, yeah. It's okay, man. But again, it's a form of an escape for me. Yeah. Everything for me. You can get to higher states through meditation and breathing techniques. Exactly. Well, that's... So that's Kundalini. So that's breathing technique. For me, it's cold water therapy. A bit of meditation. And that's it.  Got on with it, James. Because the bottom line is nobody cares, son. You just got to deal with it. I have problems every day. But I just know how to handle them. I don't slip back and drink and hide and pretend and blame everybody else.  My life is going great. I don't need to moan. But I still want more. I'm still greedy for some reason. And yet I know all this. I understand all these patterns. I know social media is bad for me. I'm still on it. I know this, but it's bad for me. I'll still eat it.  Live life. But not all monks as well. It's got to find a bit of balance. As long as I'm not dabbling on drinking drugs, I'm winning. And everything else. Listener, like I said, I've tried all these things.   Like you're still running there. It's not really working.  You know what I'm saying? Like for me, natural things in life.  I know. You'll feel a difference. That's so good for us. Yeah. Grounding. Grounding. Yeah. So good for us. And it sounds all hippies and hocus pocus, but everything grown from the earth is what we should be consuming. The fresh water, fresh lakes. But again, is anything fresh anymore?  Well, I'm sure the lakes in Scotland isn't where you live.  Well, no, not all salmon. Obviously, like depends on the salmon farm, you know? Because it's just like the cattle and every other animal that gets pumped full of things that make it bigger and grow faster. Full of water as well. Chemicals. So that stuff, all the people you kind of come into your life are probably in that part of lifestyle. How do you see? Is it Gillene, Maxwell? Or Gillene? How do you say her name? Oh, Gillene. How, because the relationship was 20 years. How did that come about? So we met, we met probably around, well, we met actually through that boyfriend I had when I was 19. So, oh gosh, got to calculate for how old am I? But that would have been like mid 90s. Who was she then? Like normal person, you know? So I had friends that went to uni with her. They went to Oxford with her.  So a lot of his friends like, yeah, they'd known her since uni. She was okay, sound? Yeah. And when did Prinsandra come into the picture? I met him totally separately, not through Gillene, but obviously like the circle, the social circle in England, well, in London particularly is very small. I met him probably like around the same time, like late 90s. What was he like? Yeah, seemed like a decent, you know, decent guy, very sort of direct and a good sense of humour. Yeah. We actually, we were on a sort of, not a blind date, but sort of like a double date type of thing. Family friend Anushka Hemphol, she owned, she started Blake's Hotel, which was such a fab hotel. And so it was her and her husband and they invited Andrew and I. But did they have security when these guys go on dates? I don't know, they're kind of hidden. Are they? You know, I think they sort of, you know, hidden so you don't see them. So seeing you're in that lifestyle, do you think, because like you say, she's probably started out an innocent girl, do you think part of them get groomed to then being who they end up becoming? Or do you think they've always got it in them? Like for the sex trafficking and bringing young girls and stuff?  And was it a temple? But I don't think it was, you know, do you call it like, what stage do we call grooming, right? So when I met her, it seemed like she was very in love with Jeffrey. Like they seemed like a genuinely good couple. And, you know, what seemed to have happened is she brought in these girls for massages for Jeffrey. And then those girls wanted to be her. They wanted her lifestyle. I even have it in text messages that Maria Farmer wrote. They wanted her out of the way. And they were just, they were, well, they were super jealous of her being English and posh and having this sort of family history as well. You know, a lot of these girls yearn for that. You know, they're not from, they're all kind of from broken homes, not, you know, not good families. They haven't really lived a very great life at this point before meeting him. And suddenly he opens up this whole new world. And they see Galena as a threat and they want her gone. I believe that, yes, he definitely like had a bit of an addiction to women. I don't think he's, you know, that I don't think he's completely innocent at all. But I don't think that any of those things that happened with any girls, none of it was forced. Like the girls could come and go as they wanted from his house. Yeah. But it's a different story of birds coming to your house and having parties and if everything's a free throw. Nobody's asked for having sex parties or whatever it is in your private time. But it's the underage girls. That's when it becomes a problem. Yeah. So underage girls, I actually, I never saw girls that are underage. And I've always said this in every interview that I never noticed girls that there was no girls younger than me. And when I met him, I would have been at least like 19, 20. So I didn't see that. But, you know, I wasn't there all the time. You see, I can only judge from what I see on the TV and what I read on the media. We can't always trust them. I'm a wee percent. But when you have... You see, that's the thing, you know, because of the way of the media manipulation during the COVID years, like I don't believe anything anymore. And it just, that whole thing made me question everything now. And whenever I read a story in the news that is, it's so being put out there by mainstream news. A lot of the stuff I found out, you know, is usually the opposite of what the mainstream narrative, like who is behind that narrative and who is making money because of that? Like that's what we always have to ask. What about the young girl who says they were 14 and he was touching them up? Which one was 14? I don't know. I watched the documentary. One of the girls says she was only 14 and she was there. Yeah, send it to me. I know there was one because she was the younger sister. I think Annie Farmer is one of the main ones.  I mean, so like my main witness who is on a gag order right now, I mean, we started putting out text messages and emails, that between those two. And she obviously was rather upset by that because the first text message I put out of hers was how she loved Jeffrey. And I was like, busted girl. So she started, she's probably made like 200 videos of me, which, you know, she dedicates a lot of her time. It's kind of cooled off the last few months in goodness, but it got pretty heated at the moment. But George is being put on a gag order because she knew he was on probation. And so she basically said she filed two police, what are they called? Two police reports on him saying that he's harassing her. No, he's not harassing her. He hadn't communicated with her for months before. So yeah, I'm hoping that, look, I just want my life back. I just really want the truth to come out about this and the right people to be behind bars. As far as Gillene, I don't think she is as guilty as what the media has made her out to be. How so? Well, I just don't, I mean, so why is she behind bars? Like she's got more time in jail right now than murderers, like people that have actually like killed people. Do you think she could die? I think every day is a struggle for her in there. Has she opened on Mofia and gave names? I don't think that she has been giving names of any kind. I think the fact that she even did that interview last year, that was pretty major. I thought that's never going to happen. She's never going to speak out. And then when she said, oh, yeah, there's at least 50 things wrong with that photo, I was like, oh my God, thank you, because I'm the only one that has been vocal about this. And Sonny like, she backed it up right there. So you're talking about the photo with Prince Andrew? The fake, famous fake photo. Maxwell at the back. Can we get a close-up of that on the screen right now? And so you're saying that photo as Dr. Jocelyn? Because yeah, so I really want now the guy that did, you know, the detective work on the Kate Middleton photo, I would like him to please look at that photo and see what's wrong with it. Because there is like, the Kate Middleton one to me, I couldn't, I didn't see it. The things didn't pop out like this one does. But with this one, when you start looking at it, there's a mark around the head. So the guy that actually took the pictures, I've actually been in contact with him for a while. I believe he is the guy. I've had officers meet him, question him. Like I've been working on this for what, two years now. So we will be bringing him into the public view as soon as I can have George Honk speak. So it will be in the next couple of months. But this guy actually explains, he's actually made videos for me of how he swapped the heads out. But surely professionals would be able to see that that's been swapped in? Because the girl in the Netflix documentary, who was the girl that got the 12 million? There's no 12 million. So even just an F. What was her name? Virginia Guffrey. Virginia Guffrey. So just, just, oh my God, I got a bit closer. So just so you know, even the Duchess of York doesn't know what the amount is. So how Piers Morgan and all these other people are touting this number, like she doesn't even know. She isn't even privy to know how much the number is. So we don't know how much the number is, but it's not that much. I think it's more like a third of that or a quarter of that. Because she says the four were done by a professional and they can see it. Of course she's saying that. It's changed her life. She was living in a freaking garden shed before this. So what was Epstein like? What was he like? Not that exciting really. I think, you know, like I said before, Gelene was like the fun one in that like relationship. And he's just more work. I think he like just hanging out more of sort of geeky kind of scientists rather than like fun people. Were you ever on Epstein Island? No, I was not invited. So no, I was not on Epstein Island. Is that special? People who get invited like the Clintons. People because there must be people because it's the people who met Jimmy Saville.  They've just seen him in the public. Are you right? So and I'm not saying everybody in Epstein Island are always same. So you've got to be you've got to understand if someone invites you to an island private plane, you're thinking this sounds interesting.  Well, the thing is, it's very easy for everyone to question this stuff now. But when you're living it at that moment, no one had anything bad. No one knew anything bad about Jeffrey Epstein. He was just like the fun guy with an island and planes and and all the toys, you know, and nice invitations. Like we didn't know anything back then. Like it's very easy for like the public to go, Oh my God, why was she doing this? No, it was all kind of like normal back then. You wouldn't you wouldn't have any suspicions that anything was like out of the ordinary. Was Glenn, it was Maxwell and Epstein's swingers? That I don't know. I really don't know. But I'm guessing so. Because he was charged because he was a maths teacher. No, there were people where he got his money from. People still don't know because he was a maths teacher. I think he was kind of kicked out because he got his money. He got his money. So someone I know who was very close to him and knew him since he lived in a one bedroom. And he basically said to me recently a few months ago and he was friends with Jeffrey throughout his life really since he was working as a professor, was working at a school teacher, maths teacher, okay, so not really even the professor. But he said, you know, he asked Jeffrey one day, he's like, how do you make him your money? And Jeffrey's response to that was like, he said, well, I'm the guy that recovers the money from people that cannot go to the police. And he was like, hmm, so basically like what it is, is that, you know, it's known that Jeffrey, he helped a lot of these billionaires create these sorts of charitable trusts. So it was a sort of, it was some kind of tax break. So they weren't paying taxes. So they would pay him in assets instead. Hence they give him houses or different things. But I think like the code decipher from that message that Jeffrey said was, so just say someone who's a billionaire, they might be making money illegally, drug money or something. And someone's just run off with 500 million of their money.  I don't know how Jeffrey recovers it. My take on that is Jeffrey was definitely with the CIA at some point, like I've had friends in intelligence like say that to me.  And I think it got to a point where maybe he wanted to leave and then they were like, oh, no, you're not leaving. We're just going to set you up. But obviously he was charged as well. A few years back of, what was he charged with? Six or so years? Right. And I don't know the full story about that girl because... And that's what doesn't make sense because if he's charged with that and then you've got Prince Andrew going, it doesn't look good for any of them. You've got to admit it doesn't look good. But the problem is, you see, the original thing, that was not a big story. Like when that came out, that was half a page, maybe in the middle of the newspaper.  He was not getting front pages. There was not...  Is wonder what that story is about, but didn't really think more of it. And people don't remember that. Like they're like, oh my God, Jeffrey Epstein. No, it was a very small story back then. It was not front page news. Was there any whisper back then of trafficking? I mean, this word trafficking is way too conspiracy for me. And you know, I am a top conspiracy theorist and I literally get people... I was in Barbados at Christmas. I got people stopping me on the beach. Oh my God, I love your Instagram. All your conspiracies come true. So, yeah, I've had people literally that, you know, they were so against the things I said. And then they were like, yep, you were right on that, that and that. Thank you so much. Waiting for my medal. But the word trafficking is such a strong word. And I've said that in all my interviews as well. I said, you know, when I think of trafficking, like I have friends that actually have charities helping traffic victims, which these are girls that are actually like kidnapped from their homes as children or kidnapped in a park and sold into trafficking in a brothel where they are raped all day long. And after that, when they're no use, they are sold for organs. That's trafficking. Trafficking, girls drinking champagne on the back of a yacht in Santa Fe ain't trafficking. Do you think a lot of these girls then are basically prostitutes? They are, no, they are prostitutes. So these girls, they're prostitutes, hookers, escorts, whatever you want to call them.  No, these ones.  But that's next level. Yeah, I don't know about the girls that did not agree to it, but I've investigated the ones that clearly knew what they were doing. And Sarah Ransom as an example, like I actually found her original pictures from my escort agency. So she actually got caught up in a whole nother scandal, which is the Pritzler scandal of, that was like a couple of years before, but her name was hidden. But anyway, yeah, these girls are hookers, man. Like, look at the pictures of them coming out of the water at the island as a picture of Sarah Ransom. She looks like a bond girl. Like, this is not a girl that has been like chained up and raped all day. Why were you never invaded to the island? I have no idea. I actually, well, I pretty much always had a boyfriend back then. So I wasn't really like single. Could have been your favorite case, though. Yeah, I wasn't really single, but I don't believe like really bad stuff was going on. I mean- But you're another other, that's what you can't really- Look, I wasn't there, but I feel like, you know, this is a rich dude with an island inviting yes, pretty girls. I don't think they were forced into anything. But you know, like, I mean, I remember when I was younger and this actually was a friend of mine. And you know, he was a real playboy. He met this girl in like a nightclub. I think it was China White back then, maybe her and some friends, flew them to Monaco Grand Prix, had them on his yacht. When they went to sleep with him, he threw them off the boat. Like, this is what happens in that kind of level.   And you know what he did? So then even worse, like not just like threw them off the boat, but actually then left them on the boat and went to a party and then threw them off. I was like, that is like really mean. Like, that's really mean.  You don't go to an island if you don't think that you're going to have to do something maybe. See for me, I'm against them because I'm a father. But again, I don't- But as a woman- Somebody told me about the Clintons as well.  He late, he late. Well, apparently like the only reason Bill was there all the time was like, he was just escaping Hillary and he was having a fowl gillian, apparently. So that's why he was there. Hillary's into women, apparently. So they say. But yeah, I don't know if he's into young girls, but he was definitely having a fowl gillian. For sure. What about Prince Andrew? Because you took the column right in the end. Again, listen, there's no any- And that's, you know, there's never any purpose. He's just a big kind of, not a big daft guy, but is he just a guy like to party as well and just- He doesn't party. This is the crazy thing. He doesn't even drink. He's never even had a drink. I think he might have had one drink when he was like 11 or 12 and he picked up a glass that had alcohol in it, thinking it was water and gulped it and just like had the worst experience never touched a drink again. So this is why this story is so crazy because this is not a party guy. Like, yeah, he's social and, you know, he was like the favorite, right? The favorite to the queen. Kind of not as nerdy as Charles, sort of more fun, had the military career. So naturally, like he was popular with the women. Like he didn't need to have Virginia Guffrey, like paid.  And, you know, the Duchess of York vouched for that. Like she actually said to me, he's never, she's like, she's known him her whole life. He's never had a wallet. Like clearly in that photo in Kinniton Street, there's something in his back pocket.  He doesn't drink alcohol. So like the beginning of Virginia's statement is like, oh, we were in Trump and like, he got me a cocktail and we drank anyone that knows him. And this is where the press really, they think that this thing could have been stopped so early on. Like the press invited to Buckingham Palace. Like they all know that Prince Andrew doesn't freaking drink. You know that every newspaper archive was trying to find those pictures of Prince Andrew coming out of tramps that night. There's no photo. He wasn't there. Like it's a lie. There's no way in 2001, anyone could be coming out of a nightclub that is as popular as Tramp Nightclub on a Friday or Saturday night without a million paparazzi. I mean, I lived it. I was out all the time and I had maybe 10 paparazzi like wrapped around my taxi when I'd be out. It's impossible. It didn't happen. Because that girl was obviously saying she was traffic and going traffic. This word traffic is like, it's a new word that started being used by the lawyers involved in this whole scam of getting money from the Epstein estate. Bradley Edwards started using it and David Boyd started using it because it just makes it all sound so much worse. Trafficking, trafficking, trafficking.  Like, what are these girls going on about?  So she's 17 and he apparently slept with her then in that house. It didn't happen. He's never met her. He's never met her. But why was, why did, the thing is, he's interviewed on a TV fucking. Yeah. Yeah, it did.  It did and now they've, you know, they've made a TV show out of it. That comes out soon.   Like, yeah. I mean, these people have now made a career out of it. Why would, why would she, why would she like to do that? And so, so basically, so that interview happened. The Duchess of York was in Saudi. She tried to stop it. He's, he's stubborn. He's his own man. He, he saw it as this was going to completely clear him of everything. I mean, I know this isn't really public or anything, but I don't know. I think maybe he's maybe on the spectrum because he can't, he's one of those people that can't lie.  I think it's just like that is just the way he is. And he's just super direct. Like he's the kind of personality that is just not even capable of lying.  He doesn't say, no, I don't. He's very honest. He's like, well, I, you know, do you remember what he said? He's like, I don't regret it. He brought me some good business dealings or whatever it said. But, you know, a normal person would have gone, yes, I very much regret it. And, you know, he was just super direct. Can't lie.  There's just no way. Just knowing the personality that we are dealing with, which is a military style, cannot lie type of person. I don't know if you've done them. But the problem is, if you, if you rewatch that interview, knowing he's innocent, you have a completely different experience. But nobody thinks he's innocent. Could you be naive to all? No. I mean, I know what evidence I have, which we can release in a few months. And, you know, Virginia, basically, yeah, she's admitted that nothing ever happened with him.  Let's imagine, imagine for talking, say everything you're saying is correct. And that changes everything again. Do you think I'm going to have a lot of people apologising to me? You would need that because what you're saying is a bit heavy that nobody, I've never seen anybody stick up for any of them, anyone. So it's a lot of pressure. If you're wrong. Yeah. Well, it's a lot of pressure if I'm wrong. If you're wrong. I wouldn't be saying any of this stuff if I, if I would not, like, why would I have been putting myself on the line if I didn't have concrete proof that this guy is innocent? Like, you know, for me to go against the Me Too movement in the beginning, now it's fine. Like, I literally like, I get DMs all the time, like from people who are DV survivors, you know, domestic violence. And they're like, yeah, those girls are liars. Like they have ruined it for us because, you know, people that really are going through a rough time and they look at these girls milking millions of dollars from people and they're just parading around doing little interviews. Like people that have really gone through stuff like that, they're not parading around with their little stilettos and doing interviews and looking like, no, no, it's not.   Even the girls who have produced that, they're thinking, somebody's going to sign this off and tell us not to put it out. They never had a lawyer with them. They had these daughter with them. No, there was, no, there was someone from Buckingham Palace sitting in that interview. But they gave it the green light and said it was amazing. Buckingham Palace, well, because if you go into that interview and watch it, knowing he's innocent, totally different experience. Like I re-watched it, knowing what I know, and I'm like, actually, it's really not that bad, but you have make list, barrister, it's the tone of it. It's like even the color, the lighting, like you can change a lot by that, by just the environment. You know, the way it's shot straight away, it's like this guy's not innocent the way it's filmed. But it was a no sweating. It was a pizza express. But he really can't sweat. Like apparently that's like true. But you understand, like because there's a photo of him as well, but if he's shut on, drippin' and sweat. Well, where? Show that to me. Because it's a yellow shirt and an A-cup. Yeah, I don't think so. Because there was one that was circulating that I found the original, and then people online were like adding sweat to it, and then it was going online. Listen, I could be wrong, but I'm only judging from, listen. You're judging from what you see. Yeah, of course. And listen, that's why you're here. I'm open minded to everything. Yeah, but I found actually this one photo, and it was going around like online, on whichever, like social media. And then I found the original, which was the no sweat version. And it's like, oh fuck, like people are actually like adding that to make it look bad for him. But I understand, yeah, pizza express, apparently those parents who were the parents that day didn't want to get involved. You know, that's a problem. Like a lot of people just ran away from this story because it had such a mark to it, being associated with Jeffrey Epstein and Gillian Maxwell, that everyone just ran away. Like no one wanted to deal. But the Epstein connection, nobody would have ever knew that existed if it wasn't a photo in Central Park. Nobody would have known. No, probably, no. Yeah, nothing, no evidence to say they were ever with each other. But that makes them look bad. That makes me also question, because obviously Jeffrey Epstein, he says I had cameras in every room. From my mind, I think, oh, he got something on Prince Andrew. For him to be there with a convicted pedophile and spend days with him, you're thinking, well, wait a minute, are you one also? And you've got to understand that's the normal mindset. And I'm not daft, I would question that.  Epstein definitely coordinated that somehow to get those pictures. I think it was basically a black male, the Royal Family. Look, if Jeffrey Epstein planned to get those pictures made of Kinniton Street, and because he was in on this whole conspiracy, right, he was planning to take down the Royal Family. And this is a very serious thing. I feel like the Royal Family right now is under attack right now with everything that has been going on. So many of them are dropping down with cancer all at the same time. What do you think about that?  They don't seem to be... Listen, the Royal Family's always going to be a force. No doubt they'll manage to get through what they're going through, but this seems to be the most difficult time for the Royal Family. I just think for the Queen, people say this to me sometimes, they're like, Victoria, why are you doing this? Why are you trying to help them so much? And yes, of course, I want to help him, having known him a long time, but I'm doing this for my country. Like, I'm doing this for the Queen. Like, the Queen died never knowing that her son was cleared of these allegations, and that just makes me really sad. But again, the out-of-course settlement doesn't look good either. Well, you know what?  Virginia Maria have had other ones, which we haven't seen come into the public domain, but it happens a lot. People like David Boyes are specialists in this. They literally have a stable of girls that they just pull out for different lawsuits and like, all right, okay, you're going to go sue that person. And they do these out-of-court things. Civil cases, I don't think, are as big in England, but U.S., it's very popular.  So, it's Americans like they love to sue for anything. Well, you see, it's when mud sticks and it wasn't just one thing, you kind of go, okay, it was the meeting they had seen for days, it was the paying the girl off, it was all the photos are off. Well, we don't know how many days. Yeah, I know, but that's all the stuff. And then he's going out for his meetings, right? And people always questioned the royal family. Anyway, they always questioned that there was corruption under ground tunnels and all the conspiracy theories. People believe that. Although I got to say Getty Museum, I'm very curious to know if there's tunnels under that. It's been a rumor about that for years. But why are you putting everything on the line? Because you're very outspoken for them, and you seem to be wrong. Is there anybody else? On your side doing the same? No. I'm the only one. Do you become a target? A target by from who? I don't know. People are powerful men out there. You know how it operates, look at Epstein.  How did he commit suicide on a 24-hour watch sale? Yeah, no, he definitely did not commit suicide. What do you think happened to Epstein? The same as what I've been saying for a while. So I actually posted the, I put the pictures, you know, the pictures of like the dead body when he died, it was, you know, they were, they were online, you had to kind of dig for them. But so when I put those up online, I had a couple of people reach out to me on DM Instagram, and people that are actually experienced were like working with dead bodies. And straight away, the first girl said to me, she's like, he did not die hanging. If you have the liver spots, like on your back, like the way he has, that is you died lying down. There's no way you get those marks on your back from hanging. So that like, I started like really questioning it after that. I was like, wow. And then I started researching, or if you're hanging, would your legs be swollen, your ankles would be swollen, and your body would be swollen basically. Now, when you saw that dead corpse of Jeffrey Epstein's, very slim ankles, very slim legs, that guy did not die hanging. The other thing, which is like really obvious is that they say he hung himself with a piece of bed sheet, which the piece of bed sheet had no blood on at all. When you see his neck, he's literally got, he's had almost like a wire put into his neck, where you can see like the blood and the flesh. So like, that's a complete lie. The woman who was in charge of that investigation, it was interesting to see that she retired recently. But yeah, this was a complete fraudulent, well, yeah, he was definitely murdered. What sort of information did he have then? I don't know.  That's the interesting thing. I did see that interview that his brother did, and that's a thing like who, I wonder like who killed him? Like there's so many people that could have been after him, right? And especially if the things that he was doing, like these illegal operations that he was doing with, I'm pretty sure there's like a drug connection that hasn't been unsealed yet by the media, but he was definitely like doing some deals with drug dealers like high level. Yeah, drug lords. Yeah, so yeah, there's a lot of people that would have wanted him dead. Yeah, because of the information he had. Well, the other drug running story I heard was that is like also one of the reasons why he was friends with a lot of like politicians and stuff, because he needed people flying with him that had diplomatic passports, so the aeroplanes were not searched. Yeah, but it's kind of all crazy. And like you say, listen, I respect you for coming on and backing those people. For me, I think Epstein's are wrong, and if I'm honest, I think I don't know where. I don't think. Prince Andrew, I don't know, but it doesn't look good with all the information I had. It just does not look good for him. Was he just an old guy, not old, but liked to party and liked his women? None were underage. He could have been sleeping. Harding with a glass of water. Do you know what I mean? Like you say, I was never there. I don't know. For all the other things, you kind of think, nah, he's mannerisms.  It doesn't look right, but the Jimmy Saville thing and it involved with the royal family. What about, what's that got to do with it? No, but again, it's just when these guys are involved in with the family and the Prince. But you see, you know, like we all know Jimmy Saville, like we all know about him now, but would we have known what year? Was that happening in? Was that like in the 80s? 80s, 90s and until he died. But in the 80s, we didn't have like, we didn't have the media that we have now. Like now with like social media, we can find out anything. We don't, we didn't have a Google back then. But he must have been vetted. He's got to have been vetted because he had question marks when he was a DJ. I think Johnny Rotten exposed them. And this was 20, 30 years ago. So it just, it makes people question it.  Right. And listen, there's people saying we've never been charged. That guy should have freaking gone down properly. I mean, the stories that I heard about Jimmy Saville is just absolute. Didn't he like break girls in like hospitals? Dead bodies. And he was at, he won't, he won't look for the hospitals. Well, dead bodies, but like, mentally sort of challenged young girls that couldn't speak out. There's a ghetto who draw for all of them. So maybe they were like, like they couldn't speak. I mean, that is like super sick. But that's the thing.  Now you can go down to the adrenochrome look. You can, again, I don't know. Yeah, I think that's full on Q and on stuff. I mean, I feel like, I feel like some of that definitely happens in Hollywood though, for sure. I don't know if it's like Mel Gibson that spoke out about that. But yeah, you mentioned that. But it does raise eyebrows because we're all intrigued. A lot of people live an average life of working 95 and going home and watching EastEnders. So when people are speaking about this, you're thinking, yeah, you're thinking, wow, like I said, I don't know. And I start speaking to a lot of people. Eventually it sinks in your family.  But the problem is, the problem is the sigh-up of the Q and on stuff, which is a complete fricking sigh-up. Like that has literally taken over a lot of people's minds. I believe a lot of conspiracies, but that stuff literally like, I have a friend of mine like, he barely leaves the house anymore. He thinks he's saving the planet and he's part of this Q mission. And he thinks that JFK is alive. He thinks Diana's alive. Yeah, actually, that's too much for me. Some of them like, they literally believe that all these people are gonna come back alive. And I'm like, I mean, there's some things which we can question about, is Michelle Obama a man or a woman? Like that's a good one, because I don't know. What do you think about that? But again, we don't know everything. You see the photos, but again, we see the Prince Andrew photos doctored. You're saying, so how do you know they're not doctored again?  Really? Who cares? The world's rounder flat again?  It doesn't stop Mali if it's rounder flat. But I just question, what's the life for? Why the big lie about it? Why the big tale? Because we only get taught from textbooks. We're programmed for a very young age. Believe this, believe this, believe this, believe this. When you step back and question that, he's crazy. She's crazy.  I know. But I've got to, you've genuinely got to stay open. And you see, this is the thing. Like, just say one of these zaps in girls, Maria Farmer, like the kind of art that she paints is really sick. It's like super perverted of like young naked children and stuff. I don't know if you're familiar with her art, but it's really like, kind of really creepy and gross. And George, the guy, the whistleblower guy, he said to me, he's like, yeah, it's almost like they all enact, act out like they're sort of creepy weird fantasies with like kids and stuff. So yeah. Because you were in a room with, were you in a room with Trump, Clinton, Epstein, Prince Andrew? Trump and Clinton were good friends. Like people forget that those two were really good friends for a while, actually. Trump at the time was a Democrat. And so that's how he managed to get a lot of their secrets, really. And then basically got all their secrets and then turned Republican.  But yeah, I love Trump. I just really hope for America that he's going to win and come back. Do you think it matters who's in charge? Do you think it's the people behind them who pull the strings? Obviously you get companies now like BlackRock, the Boulder Bears are. Well, she's got all these rich families who have just... Well, George Soros has a lot of power. Soros, you've got, who's up there? Luzastral, Gettys. Luzastral, but again people say there's now people bigger than them.  Who really matters? There's just left-wing, right-wing, who cares? Who's prime minister, president? What really changes? Well, this is what I said. So like when I was living in America, I wasn't like Republican or Democrat. I just was voting for the right person and I thought could change the country in a better way. You know, like if you look at just say the deep state, right? The deep state is not a party. The deep state can be Democrat or Republican. It doesn't matter. Like Obama, Clinton and Bush, they're on the same team. But it's all people arguing and fighting.   For me, people need to learn how to grow their own fruit and veg.    So I've actually been, I'm newly in the fruit and veg business right now, actually. So I've been in fashion my whole life, but I had an opportunity come to me last year and a friend of mine, he calls me up, he's from Texas, and he goes, hey Vicks, I've got something for you. So he's like direct with 150, 200 farms in Costa Rica, Mexico, all over South America, Africa, different regions in Africa. And so, yeah, so we're now working together.  But yeah, I agree with you. I think especially after the last few years, the COVID years, I think this taught a lot of us that we need to be able to survive on our own. Like we need, we need a water source. We need, we need to be able to grow our own food. Because suddenly, like the fact that, you know, when we went to the supermarket and suddenly there's nothing on the shelves, like what are we going to do? Like who's going to feed us? Stock up toilet paper. So I do, I actually have like a lot. That was the craziest thing I'd ever seen in my life. People running out of toilet paper and that's the first thing they buy.  Yeah. And that's how dumbed down people can be. The world is. And the thing about the UK people are quite smart here though. We are on it compared to most. We are quite, we're quite sane. Like people speaking, we kind of know something not quite right. Same as the Andrew and a few that's the characteristics that just seem off to the average person. But again, he's not an average person raised up in that royal family. And it's not that I'm sticking up for him, but I'm trying to look at all kinds of fields. But what do you actually think the whole thing is? Why do you think Epstein's dead?  I think Epstein, I think Epstein was working for the CIA and the CIA trying to dismantle the British monarchy. I think that he set Andrew up. Andrew was the easy target. And he faked the photo with Virginia. And he was doing a lot of illegal dealings, drugs, arms, all kinds of stuff. And I don't know who killed him, but he was definitely killed. I think Elena's the scapegoat didn't really know what she was doing or what was going on. And the girls were all in love with Jeffrey Epstein. So, yeah, I mean, I don't think Jeffrey was particularly, he definitely was not innocent at all. Like, you know, but I don't think Ellen deserves to be where she is right now. When was the last time you spoke to Glenn? It's been a couple of years. Did you hear from her when they shot at the fine? No, no. I spy, I have one of her lawyers info that I can communicate through. What do you think of people getting cloned in that? You think that's a bit far-fetched? Cloning. Yeah. Um, is this related to Epstein? People say, make people say, make Epstein make better life, or people say like, the feed that he's got there. Oh, is Epstein alive? No, no, no, no. People are saying that the body's changing, people change, and it's... Yeah, so that was really weird, right? When we saw the pictures of Jeffrey's head, I think it was when he died, and like the ear looked different, but apparently like when we die, different parts of our body, like it changes shape, because like his nose looked different and the ear looked different. So I don't know.  I really think, you know, I don't think he's hanging out on an island right now with Tupac and Princess Di. I don't think that's happening. That is curious what people do down that route.  Yeah, but it is a very dark world, where I find there is a lot of... It is, and you know, as far as like, you know, why I get defensive on the word trafficking, right? So as an example of real trafficking, not girls on the yachts in Santa Pei. A friend of mine, he does like a lot of like a contracting, government contract kind of work. He's sort of like a real version of James Bond. And he goes to places like Thailand and rescues little children from these things called red rooms. Do you know what that is? Yeah, because you used to have a red rooms in London apparently. No, no, no. So this is a thing, right, in Thailand, where different people will buy a spot in a red room with crypto, so they can't be traced. A red room in Thailand is a room where a child is murdered every three weeks. They are sacrificed. And the person that pays with the crypto gets to choose how that kid is murdered. And the other person gets to do things to them. Now, that is trafficking.  Girls lying on a boat in Santa Pei with a glass of champagne and being able to go back to a villa when they want, that is not trafficking. So do you think when a lot of the heat gets put on, these guys all come forward for money? Is that what you're saying? I think with everything, it's money. Everything is money driven in this sort of situation. I think witnesses, they see the dollar signs and they come forward. You know, it happened with actually another interesting thing that I got to do when I lived in LA. I actually sat in the courtroom in Harvey Weinstein's trial and I'd never sat in the courtroom in my life. Like, that was a first for me. I went with an independent journalist friend of mine who had sat through Galen's trial and she's like, come, like, today's going to be exciting. It's Jennifer Newsom being cross-examined. Who's Gavin Newsom's wife and, you know, the governor of California. So this was like, this is pretty hot ticket. And we'll get into the courtroom. We've got to put on mobile phone in this sort of little pouch thing that locks as soon as you press it.  He had, you know, he was known as fairly prolific in... You didn't go to his room if you weren't going to hook up with him. You just knew that. Like, you knew that. I knew that 20-something years ago. Don't go there, right? The girls that did go there, they knew what they were signing up for. And that is like... I sat in that courtroom. This girl got busted, basically. They put up all these emails that she'd written to him. Now, if someone has supposedly raped you, would you normally like message them like a week later and go, when can I see you? I'm going to be in New York for one night. Let's meet up. Does that sound like someone that's just been raped and traumatized? No. Like, this girl wanted him to give her a career and she was like sending him scripts and inviting him out. And so I looked at this man who was like the shell of what he used to be. Very thin, very thin face, very pale. And yeah, it was like... When you read stuff in the media, even the stuff from that court that day, they're going to report that differently to what I actually saw in that courtroom and experienced. What about R. Kelly? Oh, R. Kelly deserves everything he's got there. Why are you not stacking up for him? Not sticking up for R. Kelly? No, because that guy is like... There's not one centimeter of innocence. He was well known in the industry. He should have been arrested years ago. He don't have to do a 14-year-old or something. It's disgusting. Why did he... I mean, wasn't he like... He was actually like kidnapping them, wasn't he? Yeah, he was trafficking. He was... Yeah, that I would say is like, definitely more of a trafficking situation. Like, his situation compared to like an Epstein or whatever is like totally different. But at the start of the podcast as well, we were talking about kids coming from the broken home, girls, that's grooming. And of course... But that is grooming as well. But again, you can buy it in a lavish lifestyle. But these guys are manipulating these girls. And everybody's get free water, sleep with these people. Or it's just like a guy. And then it's down to them.  I used to party back in the day for fuck's sake.  We were having the best day of our lives. Any guy knows, any guy with any brain knows that they're going to be able to manipulate a girl much more from a fricking broken home. There's no mother waiting at home for them to come home at night. Oh darling, what time are you coming back from your dinner date?  You know, this is why they target that. Like, of course.  They're searching for love. They don't have any love at home. So they're like yearning that. Or they need to make money. They needed to survive. Like their parents are not home. The dad's in jail. The mother's like prostitute or something. Like, yeah. So they are really easy targets for sure. Poff daddy, be daddy. You're kind of having his back from me. I'm the opposite. Well, I wouldn't say like completely got his back. I put out a post yesterday because it's been like, it's been on the back of my mind for a while now actually. And I just, I wanted to just put out, because you put a post up and it was that that kind of really sort of triggered it for me that, you know, you put this post of him talking to this young girl who that girl is friends with his youngest son. So it's not him fricking.  Bad boy records. This guy has never called himself squeaky clean.  That I don't think anyone should like worry about. The fact is we should worry about if he's actually like hurting somebody. If he wants to sleep with men, women, whatever, like, doesn't affect us. If he wants to do drugs, doesn't affect us.  You know, anyone that has been to parties at his houses, there's no fricking sex trafficking. It's a party. It's a party. He has an alcohol brand. He knows how to have fun. But the FBI just went to the house. The housekeepers, there were two kids. Like, it's not some crazy tunnel for your Q and on friends. I'm sorry. But they're saying he could potentially be the next step. They think that if I do with a young girl, and I didn't say it was his daughter's friend, but as a father myself, it's the characteristics, as they're making the girl feel uncomfortable. As a man, I would never sit there through a line. I'd think that's creepy for me as a man. Right. Well, the thing is as well. And they're looking intoxicated. It doesn't mean he's a fricking trafficker or a pedophile, but it's creepy.  And that's what I wanted to put out there. Like, he always had his mother on the holidays. Kim Porter, who has, like, what, four children with him. Even when he was dating Cassie, Kim was always there on the holiday. You know, that was going to cause friction. Like, Cassie always knew he's in love with Kim. Like, she never had any kids with him. She didn't have anything that would tie her down with him.  And, you know, when she died, he also lost Andre Harrell, who was also a very good friend of mine. He was the guy that basically discovered Puff Daddy. Sean Coombs. And he had a pretty rough time. I think they both died within about six months of each other. In 2020, I think it was.  But, yeah, look, he can party and take ecstasy. Like, that's not going to affect us. I don't think he is a bad meaning person. Like, he can get high or whatever.  The thing is, you or I wouldn't be having a wild house party with 11-year-olds in our house out of our minds, right? But he would. And that's just, like, that's the way that he does it. But that doesn't make it acceptable.  If you got any kids, do you have any kids? No, I don't. But if you did, would you have them doing that at a party? Do you know what I'm saying? Well, because you haven't got any, it's hard to answer.  If I see someone doing that to my daughter, he's getting a bullet in the head and that's not going to be tough because I'm a protector. I'm not going to have kids. How old is your daughter? 13. Oh, gosh. So I'm a father. So my job was to provide and protect. Yeah. And I'll do that.   No point can I if I knew I was protecting the family. For me, it was just, it's not, that's not what a man does. And we can say drinks and parties, doesn't make it acceptable. And obviously, you've got. That's just that lifestyle. I mean, we don't have.  Hollywood, yeah. Yeah, Hollywood is, it's a crazy place. But the big A2 pack, people are saying that he could have been involved. He does seem he wants to be king of the castle when he was for a very long time. Yeah. Paying cash to what I think people say, up to 30 million dollars. She says she was raped to traffic.  Having usher at his house at 13, having the young girls now it's come out. Again, it could all be a setup again. I genuinely don't know for his brands that he has because that's about your enemies, Lorde. Yeah, I just, I'm trying to like figure out who are the people who are benefiting from this takedown. I think that's always the way to look at it. Like, who are they, you know? Is it the alcohol brand that wanted to cut a relationship with him because he was getting paid too much, you know? Like, like I said before, same thing happened to John Galliano, totally set up. Because he was asking too much money, they're paying him too much. Okay, let's just get rid of him.   And so obviously the rappers on the other side, you've got 50 cent and stuff and they fucking, they're rejoicing right now. I know you've got 50 cents. They're like partying, like fireworks. Because, you know, 50 cent, I love 50 cent.  Like, he's living this, you know? But yeah, I met 50 cent. I'm trying to think, oh, kind of filmed fast for a couple years ago, that was it. Very smiley, lots very smiley guy. But his son's mum, apparently she was working with Puffy that day and that's where it comes from because she's on the indictment.  And again, I don't know all the ins and outs. It is a bit petty, a lot of this stuff, but we get caught up in it because it is big news. And like you say, it could be a massive take down.  Then you've got Jay-Z, he's got his own island. He met Beyoncé when she was young. He met Saint Rihanna when she's young. And there's more rumors of that. And people can start saying... And they're two of our best friends. Why is he not coming out and supporting these best friends? Well, people can start saying that Jay-Z's a groomer. He grooms his artists and then marries them. Like it's all, you know, the entertainment world is a really seedy world. It is, especially Hollywood, you know. And the music is the same. Because apparently somebody from the CIA started hip-hop because they're now brainwashed kids into violence and hate and rage, smoking weed, fighting. No, no. The CIA run Hollywood. And they're still doing it. Yeah, of course. And they're still doing it.  And like I said... No, that's the thing, like the CIA, like they control all of this. Like these, you know, these TV shows that are promoted, like The Kardashians being role models and all of this. This is all freaking CIA. Like, what, we've got role models of girls with like these fake bums and big lips and nails like this.  Like, what is wrong with the world? This is like so sick. It's mad, like I say, if I start not for that then... But it is. The CIA runs Hollywood. Like, they own all the big agencies there. They own, you know, between the Chinese and the CIA, they own Hollywood. They own all the studios. What if it comes out about the CIA? Yes, as bad as they make out. Would you apologize? Um, of course I would. Well, if, but if you look at my post, I said if the thing about Cassie is true, I'm horrified. So I actually like, if someone actually reads the post properly, like, I'm just, I'm showing like both sides and I'm like, wow, this is true. Like this is horrifying and just awful. Yeah, because you went with them 24-7, there's men there who are groomers and fucking... After 500 interviews, there's going to be some dirty romans.  I'm going to the radar. I go, yeah, he's sound, but I'm only judging him from appearance. Okay, I've been at many parties. I'm judging, I'm judging from what I saw. But like, you know, over the years, I went to Super Bowl parties at the house. So I went to New Year parties at the Miami house or yacht parties in St. Bart's. But you know, whenever I was there, like at a party, like his kids are there, his mom's there, his old best friends are there. Since Kim Porter died, I haven't really, I haven't seen him since really like around the COVID years. Kim died Andre Haral. Andre was really like who we would always hang out all together. So when he passed, I just really haven't like seen him. Who's the best celebrity you've ever came across? I've got a few funny stories. I organized this event in Cannes for the Film Festival. I think it was about 10 years ago, a bit more maybe actually, 10, 15 years ago. And my job was to get like seven big celebrities. I had six weeks to do it. And a friend of mine from this production company, he's like, Victoria, I need your help. Like with your name, they're going to answer on the email. I'm like, okay, let's do this. So but I knew quite a lot of people and it was a celebrity poker festival. And the actors were getting nice paycheck. They were getting a payment to their charity of choice, private jets, houses rented for them in Cannes. It was kind of like cushy job. And I'd never done this before. And I thought, okay, I'm now casting director. Let's do this. So Dennis Hopper was my first signing. We had our list of like people that we wanted. And I thought I'm going to go with the oldest one, the most respected actor that the other ones would want to sign on. Because that's the thing, right? You need to have those first kind of first two. And then the others just come. And you know what? That was the best thing I ever did, getting someone that was respected. Dennis already had like two movies in Cannes that year. And so the fact that we were throwing this filler at him and the jet and stuff, like he was like, I'm doing it. The funniest story from that was I had Woody Harrelson had been filming on a clothes set in Bucharest. And I met her with his manager in West Hollywood. She hands me this Dolce Gabbana suit and this pair of vegan shoes. And she's like, you need to bring this to him or he's going to show up in shorts and flip flops. So I get to Cannes. And sure enough, I meet him in the lobby of his hotel and there he is in shorts and flip flops, like about an hour before the event. And I'm just like, I hand it over to him. I'm like, here you go, get dressed now. He actually ended up winning. But I ended up, yeah, I had Tim Robbins, Adrian Brody, Selma Hayek, Ed Norton, Goldie Horn. Yeah, it was a pretty cool event. It's not like they've kept man stories Woody Harrelson's dad was a murderer. Tim Robbins was also a drug smuggler back in the day. Oh, right. Yeah, they've kept mad, mad, powerful stories. Woody Harrelson, I know there's like, the dad was it, the dad or the brother?  And it's amazing that two of her come, unbelievable actor. What do you think of all that life? Do you see a lot of changes in people when the fame and money comes? Do they change? There's a dark entity to take over them or have they always got that in them? I don't know. Like, I guess some people do change, but, you know, if there's someone that I know and I've known for a while, I feel like people always remember that you've known them for a long time, so they don't really change with you. Why have they never released the Epstein flight logs? Why is that a big secret? I thought the flight logs I have, there's a bunch of flight logs that are online. I think with Tom Hanks and obviously the clients. Okay, Tom Hanks now getting into conspiracy is like, I definitely like, so what was the name of the guy that died? Remember like that whole story and Tom Hanks did that very cryptic tweet about it? That actor that basically was trying to warn people about Tom Hanks. Yeah, yeah. I've seen the guy who done the suicide a couple of days later. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now that... He looked tired or he looked unwell. Yeah, that was very strange. But they're saying that Hanks because we're planning to go to Cyprus because again, it's as it conspiracies, but again, pizza gate, you can go down the rabbit hole when it does... I believe in pizza gate, by the way. But it's mad to for you to then... Because you're... I believe in it. It's not as if you're on the fence, but you're... No, I'm not on the fence, but I believe... You see, this is like... This is part of the Psyot, right? There's a lot of... There's real stuff out there and then there's fake stuff and it's all mixed together and then you've got to figure out which of these things are real and which of these things are fake. But how do we know? How will we ever know? Unless it comes from the horse's mouth.   We perceive and then take different... Well, did you ever read the emails? From who? That were part of like in the Julian Assange, you know, all the data that he released. So like some of those emails from Hillary Clinton and stuff talking about basically human sacrifices and calling, you know, that some of the stuff was in code. Seventy-frozen emails or something? Yeah, but like the stuff about, you know, young boys had a special code name for the hot dogs, I think they were called, the hot dogs and the pizza. I know, I saw a lot of those photos. I mean, a lot of it got scrubbed, you know, from Instagram and stuff of those kids that disappeared and that whole pizza gate thing. Yeah, if I'm not sure people who was in... I mean, you saw it, right? You know, those original... They were put up on that guy's Instagram and obviously deleted, but you can find that stuff on like Telegram or whatever.   But I'm not sure the man who was involved in the Sound of Freedom who was a billionaire, undercover billionaire. And again, but then the guy, Tim, who was in it, there was sexual claims coming out of him. So how the fuck? But then everybody then deflects. I know. How do you know, say it's a matrix attack? Or they're coming after me because you're exposing this, but did they already know they were coming after them anyway?  I don't know, there's a lot of fucker in the world but there's a lot of beautiful stuff in the world as well. Yeah, I mean, the thing is, I think stuff, information gets thrown out, put out there. And some of it's real and some of it isn't. And it's kind of our job. We just have to kind of figure out which stuff is true because they want us to run with a completely wrong story and then go, oh, that isn't true. So this person can't be talking the truth. So there's a lot of like red herrings out there as well, which that was happening during COVID all the time, right? Misinformation. Yeah. So along with a lot of stuff that was real, then there would be other stuff that was put out that was not real. Yeah. That's why anybody watching or listening question everything, question about what we are saying. And like I say, this is a healthy conversation. This is a healthy discussion. Like you say, we're not agreeing, disagreeing. There's things that I agree with, but there's just a discussion with the information that we have in life. Where do you go forward for the future with it all? What's your YouTube and stuff? I know you're trying. Yeah, so I need to build up my YouTube. It's at Lady Victoria Harvey. That's H-E-R-V-E-Y. And Instagram is Lady Victoria Harvey as well.  And it's like, I've had that since school. So if I say Harvey, they put H-A, but it's H-E. So everyone. But yeah, I think it sort of comes from French originally, L-V. Yeah, it sounds Scottish, yeah? Yeah, I've got Scottish in me, actually. That's where I get my height from. Maybe that's the one that can't happen to my height.  You're very strong. You're very, this is what I believe in.  And that takes courage, especially in this day and age. You don't need to be at the forefront. Yeah. Try to stick up for Andrew. Well, I feel like, yeah, since what, 2020, I feel like I'm being in the battle scene. And you know, it's not the COVID battle anymore, but it's just getting the right information out. And for me, it's sort of like now become a duty because I've had some key witness people and they've reached out to me because I've been the one that has been vocal about it. And because I have a public profile, they trust me. They know I'm not going to mess, you know, mess them over like I'm not a journalist. And they trust me with information. And with that information now, I am helping get it out for them. Have you ever been questioned over anything, being friends with all these people? No, I mean, question about what? Just being friends with them. Like say, Met Epstein, Andrew, Maxwell, high profile cases. No, these people, these people, it's all talk, right? Like that, the fake photo thing. Like the FBI never even had the picture. Like it was a copy of the fake photo was put on a disc. And when they were threatening a lawsuit with Prince Andrew, Virginia's team was trying to pretend there was a hard copy of a photo. There never was. It was a complete fricking lie. Like never has been. But if that does come out, it was a lie never to finish full. Guys, I'm so excited. We'll come back and we'll do round two. I'm up for it. And that's why it's always still.  If I'm honest, 99.9% of people think Andrew is guilty. They think he's involved in some madness with Epstein. It doesn't look good with the meetings and staying at his house and the pizza stuff and the sweating and the photos and those all those girls giving statements. So it's hard to then turn that. You've got to be honest. It is very difficult. Yeah, that's a fair play. And I hope I don't want people of the world to be run by monsters. I want you to be right. I want you to think the world's okay. But again, who's behind those strings that then can destroy lives like that? That's the questions that we've seen that through the years. Presidents getting shot.  It's out there. Yeah. What do you think about the fake landing by the way? They're real. No. No way. So fake, isn't it? Oh, yeah.  So fake. There was machines and... I tried to talk to someone about that recently and like Victoria. I'm like, no, it's not real. That's what I find, you know. It just looks so fake. So I believe in this stuff. Like I don't say like no to these conspiracies. Like that was fake. That was totally staged. And actually who is the famous director who admitted it later on when he died? They found all these notes that he'd written. Admitting that. He's a guy from NASA. He was asked to film it. Now he was a director. But how can you film it even when the spaceship goes up? Do you see the camera going up as well? The boots are different than the moon. I think the flag is moving because there's no wind up there. So I don't know. But again, it could be fake. Maybe I'm just going down that route. But I just question it. I'm not asked if it's real or not. Anyway, it doesn't really... I don't wake up and go as a man.  But I'm just interested in why they lie. Yeah. Because you look at the Truman Show... Well, they apparently were trying to... The Americans were trying to say that they wanted to be the first ones. Before Russia. They wanted to beat Russia. They wanted to... They just... America. America is the leading country of the world. We want to be the first ones. And yeah, they lied. Just before we finish up, because I know you spoke about the monarchy crashing, which is a possibility. Do you think America... Well, I don't think it's crashing. The monarchy is under attack right now. Yeah, but do you think that's... And the leftist media is having a field day with this. So if it was to crash, what would happen? It's not going to crash. No, but if it never did. It never will. Because the UK has been a strong force on this planet since its existence. The UK is strong. Like, there's been so many things that the Royal Family has had to live with throughout the centuries. Like, this is a breeze right now. But it's been hard, I think, for the current members of the Royal Family. Like, this has not been easy. As you said before, you know, Meghan Markle and, you know, I think the stress of her to the family, that could have been one of the reasons that's brought down Kate. You know, cancer is stress at the end of the day. And I think if people lived in an atmosphere that was less stressed, like more stress-free, there would be less illness. See, it's mad. I always thought the Royal Family where I'm immune to everything. I don't think they were like that.  I don't think they would ever have cancer. I don't think Prince Andrew would do none of yours. I don't think the media would be speaking negative about them. Well, the Queen. They're not that much protected as people think. They're not. And you see, they used to be because the Queen was really good like that. She didn't give too much. You never saw the Queen speaking about politics. She was just sort of behind smiling, doing her speeches, but didn't get political. And I think that's where it's also gone wrong right now. Like we should be staying away from... People genuinely do love the Royal Family. Like if King Charles was to put it out, of course. What do you think about this whole green agenda?  I'm not for any agenda. I'm for me, my family, the people around me. I'm only trying to learn from my mistakes. Stay open-minded about how people can have a better life and a better understanding. I don't have all the answers, but I'm working at it to then have some patterns and tools and techniques for people to go away. I mean, that sky changed. He's doing well for himself. He's not happy 24-7, but he knows if he's unhappy, he can't change it. But what do you think about climate change?   You've got a young 14-year-old girl getting into schools and putting fear into everybody. The world's massive. When you actually go in an airplane, how empty is the world? There's not much. There's so much space. So plans for the future. Give me your plans. Where do you see yourself? I don't know. I'm just sort of going with the flow right now. I moved back a year ago. I'm really enjoying my time back in England. And we'll see what happens. I'm working on a book at the moment, so I'd like to get that finished. You've got a book out before. I did. I've brought a fiction novel out before about... It was a fictionalized version of my teenage years at boarding school. So, I know probably for your kind of age group, daughter, obviously not you. But yeah, they're working on that. And once this whole madness of Virginia Dufres comes out, George and I are going to be working on a screenplay. Yeah. But like I said, man, I welcome you back on with all the information when you can really sit. But listen, if it's putting wrongs to write, I'm all for it. I'm just about finding out the truth. And that is where I'm... That has always been like what I'm looking for. What do you think, just before sorry again, what do you think of the Harry and Meghan situation? I think it's not a good situation. I think he's completely blinded. Could she be a plant? So, I always said this, and I even said this to a journalist friend of mine a couple of years ago. And they just... They wouldn't write the story. I even gave it to the Sun newspaper. They're like, I can't write this. But I literally feel like she's like a spy. Listen, that's a positive attitude. I feel like she's an actress. I feel like she's a government asset. Like having close ties of Obama and the Clintons is like a red flag to me.  That puts a massive strain to brothers.  If somebody's trying to turn you against their brother, cut them off. And actually, interestingly enough, there was another actor, I have to look it up, who actually it's on record. It's in a piece from a newspaper somewhere. But he also said, I think she's a government asset. I really do believe that. Lady V, thanks for coming on today. I thoroughly enjoyed that. I hope everything you're saying is true. And a lot of people are innocent. But if you're not, I expect you to come back on and have an apology. Would you like to finish up on anything else? No, I think we're good. I think we covered everything. Listen, again, thanks for everything. I wish you'd often been the best for the future. Thank you so much.